Are we supposed to be surprised by this?

This is a fucking nightmare!

Those Pali's just can't keep their mouths shut. They must have thought the election was over since they have no concept of time zones.

Dah-da-da-da-da....da-da-dah.....taquiya!

Campaign boost for Bibi.

When was this meeting? Where?

Say it isn't so, Joe?

Gee, what a surprise ~ *spit*

re: #1 Macker

Are we supposed to be surprised by this?

I'm not. Sounds like par for the course with Obama. Say whatever people want to hear. Some of the time, he'll say what he also believes.

I believe the actual verbiage of the promise was "Take it from me, Jews in the sea." That's no secret.

Someone tell Obama shill Rep. Jerry Nadler (NYC upper west side)!

They could make those statements based on watching TV. OTOH, I dn't doubt at all that he's made them other assurances that he would have been smart enough not to get on video.

Oh, come on, Obama obviously lied to Abbas and Fayyad to keep them at bay. It was the only way Obama could ensure world peace!
/

I got news for BHO: Jerusalem is not his to negotiate away.

I bet they are washing their headscarves for the victory party.

From Karl Rove's website:

The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow, the largest electoral margin since 1996.

Oh dear God.

There go the avatars. Thanks for giving the hamsters a little break, Charles!

This man is shady beyond belief. I am dizzy.

re: #13 MandyManners

I got news for BHO: Jerusalem is not his to negotiate away.

But I bet you he'll try.

Guys, hunker down... because it could be a long unpleasant 4 years. I hope to high heaven we dont have another repeat of Yum Kippur War. God help our ally and only real democracy in the Middle East.

Didn't see that coming. The Vote Obama phone banks in Gaza City weren't a clue either.

/starting Valium drip...

re: #15 Last Mohican

From Karl Rove's website:

Oh dear God.

Unfortunately, he knows whereof he speaks. Very sad, if true.

So get out and vote, people!

Well this comes as a complete surprise. Seriously, I think every Jew in America know or suspect this, but have decided Obama is more important than Israel, plain and simple. I know my acquaintances have who are voting for him.

Of course, we're only hearing about this NOW because it's too late for anyone to do anything about it.

/Still waiting on the LA Times...

re: #20 Sol Roth

Didn't see that coming. The Vote Obama phone banks in Gaza City weren't a clue either.

/starting Valium drip...

You know, you've only got so many places you can drip through.
/

re: #17 freedombilly

This man is shady beyond belief. I am dizzy.

What do you expect from a politician who has spent his entire career as part of the Cook County Democratic Organization? I'd expect nothing but lies, double-crosses, and lots and lots of bullshit.

re: #23 thedopefishlives

Of course, we're only hearing about this NOW because it's too late for anyone to do anything about it.

/Still waiting on the LA Times...

*crickets*

Sad to say it, but I think we'll have enough troubles of our own to worry much about the supreme fucking The Messiah gives Israel.

Rashid Khalidi told an audience of Arab-Americans during Obama's Senate election in 2004, not to worry if Obama makes pro-Israeli statements. He has to say that stuff to get elected, but once he is elected, he won't let the Palestinians down.

That's yet another reason Obama promoted early voting. The coal comment was just one of many things he has said in the past that could/will come back to bite him in the ass....

First they came for the Jews....
Then they came for those who spoke out....
Then they came for the gun owners.....

I voted early this morning and there were no lines.

The second time I voted the line was around the block.

re: #15 Last Mohican

From Karl Rove's website:

Oh dear God.

Rove was wrong on the 2006 elections. He's got this wrong too.

re: #22 pat

Well this comes as a complete surprise. Seriously, I think every Jew in America know or suspect this, but have decided Obama is more important than Israel, plain and simple. I know my acquaintances have who are voting for him.

Israel will survive regardless. I understand it is a matter of faith in God but God has her back. I'd really like to see BHO contend with the almighty.

Job 40:2

re: #31 DesertSage

Heh.

re: #23 thedopefishlives

/Still waiting on the LA Times...

I'm sure they'll save until they can use it as a point of support for Obama - See, Obama was the only one courageous enough to support Palestine and we have this hidden tape to prove it!

Good Morning Lizards. (Semi OT)

Excellent Fast Clouds upon the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone. "Paradise is all around us and we do not understand" —Thomas Merton.

Election Day; I will vote and then not post for a while.

Portae Inferi Non Praevalebunt.

And it's time for the Poll Hammer:

God bless us all

Polls are BS. Ojoe's poll hammer:

1. Polls are public. There are at least 2 people present when a polling question is asked. The Ballot is private.

2. Poll questions can be worded in leading, tricky ways. The ballot is simple.

3. Polls never measure the opinions of those who refuse to answer them. Polls are the responses of the 20% or fewer of people who answer the phones and respond to pollsters. The other 80+% of people either hang up or never answer the phone.

4. Polls can be used to try and influence the outcome of an election, so the motivation behind them and their reporting is suspect. The ballot is the election.

5. You can lie to a pollster. You cannot lie to the ballot.

6. Polls come to you. You have to get up off your ass to vote.

7. Only God knows the future anyway.

re: #33 Jetpilot1101

Israel will survive regardless. I understand it is a matter of faith in God but God has her back. I'd really like to see BHO contend with the almighty.

Job 40:2

The One is not the almighty?
//

re: #18 Jetpilot1101

But I bet you he'll try.

Israelis need to get hawks into office.

So we have Obama saying one thing to the Israeli's, and publicly in this country, and another to the Palestinian leadership. He's clearly lying to one group, the question is, which group?

Perhaps the company he keeps and has sought out in the past will give us a clue.

I hate OBAMA as much as anyone, but I hate Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayyad even more.

They are lying scum who will say anything to make themselves seem more important.

I don't think for even one moment that OBAMA would say such a thing (keep it a secret). He is not an idiot, and underestimating him would be a mistake.

Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayyad are straight up terrorists, who can't help but believe their own fantasies.

If we witness our enemies (or the enemies of our allies) celebrating an Obama victory (as they danced in the streets post 9/11), will America finally comprehend what she has done?

Or, is the promise of free gas and no mortgage payments enough of a sedative for the masses?

re: #32 lawhawk

Rove was wrong on the 2006 elections. He's got this wrong too.

Was he? I figured he would have his figures well in order in this case. I hope you're right (not that I want Rove to be wrong, that magnificent bastard who has done so much).

My wife told me that a coworker of hers voted absentee, and then later regretted it having changed his mind. She didn't know exactly what he changed his mind on, but perhaps there will be a lot of minds changed before actually voting today.

re: #29 PAgirlinNC

I surmised the same thing a while back. Obama was smart to get as many votes in the bag, obviously aware that last minute revalations might be particularly disruptive to his Ascension to the Throne.

re: #19 shanec99

My thought is that the only thing holding Israel back from making a preemptive/decapitation strike on Iran is the hope of a McCain-Palin victory. Without any friend in the world, Israel would have to base her decisions solely on binary national interests.

re: #27 jwpaine

Sad to say it, but I think we'll have enough troubles of our own to worry much about the supreme fucking The Messiah gives Israel.

No. Israel is a key ally.

re: #40 Buck

I hate OBAMA as much as anyone, but I hate Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayyad even more.

They are lying scum who will say anything to make themselves seem more important.

I don't think for even one moment that OBAMA would say such a thing (keep it a secret). He is not an idiot, and underestimating him would be a mistake.

Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayyad are straight up terrorists, who can't help but believe their own fantasies.

Don't forget what he told the Canadians about NAFTA. This is in his character.

re: #37 jcm

The One is not the almighty?
//

No he is not and again, I'd like to see him contend with the Almighty. I'd pay double for that action.

re: #13 MandyManners

I got news for BHO: Jerusalem is not his to negotiate away.

He is just beyond belief. Just based on this one issue, the guy should be tossed to the curb.

re: #30 jcm

First they came for the Jews....
Then they came for those who spoke out....
Then they came for the gun owners.....

and then they died.

Just voted, no one in line for my part of the alphabet at my polling station. Took me all of 30 seconds. The place where I vote is very small, and I have never seen it overwhelmed, and I saw about the same number of folks I've seen for previous presidential elections. I think where I live there is usually high voter turnout anyhow, and so our polling place is adequately staffed.

Let's hope tonight's news includes the words "A Stunning Upset".

re: #33 Jetpilot1101

Israel will survive regardless. I understand it is a matter of faith in God but God has her back. I'd really like to see BHO contend with the almighty.

Job 40:2

The almighty allows the devil to torment even the righteous sometimes, please remember the story of Job. He lost his children, his wealth, his health (covered from head to toe in boils), and God allwed this. I pray such a calamity does not befall the state of Israel and the hands of those who have pledged to wipe Israel of the face of the map.

re: #15 Last Mohican

Don't forget the PUMA factor. These men and women are serious and I believe all of the pollsters and MSM have not even considered them a factor. The PUMAs will be the game changers in a lot of areas. Thank you PUMAs!

It's been an interesting morning chat, Lizards but as others have done, I'll be moving along for the day so others have an opportunity to get on to LGF.

Remember, keep the faith and GO MCCAIN/PALIN!

Jimmy Carter II.

we are screwed.

I voted early here in Johnson County Kansas, heavy heavy turnout, not many younger people.

re: #15 Last Mohican

From Karl Rove's website:

Oh dear God.

That is only BASED ON THE LAST POLLS>
If McCain was ahead he got the state.
If obambi was ahead he got the state.
EVEN IF IT WAS IN THE MOE.

McCain is going to win!

And my people, Jews, can hardly wait 'til ObamaMessiah is President. *sigh!*

re: #49 Wishing

He is just beyond belief. Just based on this one issue, the guy should be tossed to the curb thrown under God's bus.

There, fixed that for ya!

re: #52 shanec99

The almighty allows the devil to torment even the righteous sometimes, please remember the story of Job. He lost his children, his wealth, his health (covered from head to toe in boils), and God allwed this. I pray such a calamity does not befall the state of Israel and the hands of those who have pledged to wipe Israel of the face of the map.

He sure does but he always does so with a purpose in mind. Please read Job 42:11-17 and I think you will see that while God may allow oppression, if we are faithful (as Job was) he restores what the locusts have eaten. There may be calamity, but I am confident, God will restore what may be destroyed.

re: #51 reine.de.tout

I hope tonight's news includes: "McCain won?! Oh f*ing hell, that's it! We quit!"
I hope big!

Took me three hours of waiting in line to vote this morning. . .but I did it.

GET OUT THERE AND VOTE!

re: #46 MandyManners

I agree, Mandy. I just think the alligators in which we'll find ourselves up to our asses here at home will take precedence over concerns for Israel's welfare.

I hope I'm wrong.

re: #53 PAgirlinNC

Don't forget the PUMA factor. These men and women are serious and I believe all of the pollsters and MSM have not even considered them a factor. The PUMAs will be the game changers in a lot of areas. Thank you PUMAs!

PUMAs took a pledge to always poll Democrat, but to VOTE Republican.
There isn't even mention of the PUMA's on MSM.
Do not mess with bill and hill.

re: #55 FrogMarch

Jimmy Carter II.

we are screwed.

It's not over till it's over. The polls were wrong with Kerry and Gore, and the exit polls really fubared.

It not over, I still think McCain wins, narrowly but wins.

re: #55 FrogMarch

Jimmy Carter II.

we are screwed.

I have too much faith in America and her people and the system itself to believe we are on an irriversible course. We'll get through this one way or another.

Pass the K-Y jell.

This of course if accurate will have no impact whatsoever. Nothing bad sticks to the one...not even his own words filled with dastardly plans when his ascension is complete.
There is no telling what plethora of horrifically, negative, Obama news we will finally hear...post election. But, not from the MSM...not ever.

re: #42 vxbush

There is no way for the pollsters to predict turnout - or adequately quantify most of the major intangibles that impact voting results. There's no way to really measure the impact of PUMA's or the disgust that many in middle America may feel about being called rednecks or racists for not supporting The One or even to measure their disgust over being taken for granted by the MSM who basically annointed the marxist candidate.

Obama consistently polled about 7 points better in the primaries than he scored in the voting booth. I don't see this changing much....just as I will not be surprised if the exit polls also show a huge prospective Obama win in the now regular effort to surpress the R vote....

re: #31 DesertSage

I got to my precinct at 7 am to a very long line of 99% Obama voters! People who usually vote there say they've never seen anything like it. They can usually step right up to the voting machine. Took 4 hours. I'm in South Carolina. I made to sure stay and vote cause I could see an upset for McCain in this state that's suppose to go to him.

re: #57 Typicalwhitey
McCain is going to win!

Well of course!

re: #64 Wishing

And many voted straight Republican ticket. I wish the exit poll forms included the question "Are you a PUMA?" Those results would have been fantastic!

re: #55 FrogMarch

Jimmy Carter II.

we are screwed.

I voted here in suburban Cook County. No lines at my polling place but it looks like many people had already voted. The weather is very nice here today, so turnout should be big.

re: #59 Macker

There, fixed that for ya!

Thank you!

re: #15 Last Mohican

From Karl Rove's website:

Oh dear God.

Rove's map was based strictly on state poll averages, not his opinion.

I think Rove knows his map will motivate GOP voters to vote.

re: #48 Jetpilot1101

No he is not and again, I'd like to see him contend with the Almighty. I'd pay double for that action.

Obama might as well change his middle name from Hussein to Hubris.

re: #62 looking closely

Took me three hours of waiting in line to vote this morning. . .but I did it.

GET OUT THERE AND VOTE!

Thank you.

re: #67 Ron Shaw

Nothing bad sticks to the one...

I'm hoping the loss today will stick.

You can fool all the people all the time if the advertising is right and the budget is big enough.

-Joseph E. Levine

Once again we see the duplicity that is Obama; saying one thing to the voters here in the 57 states and something entirely different to those who will get a vote when he becomes anointed.

Sarah Silverman YOU BITCH

re: #27 jwpaine

Sad to say it, but I think we'll have enough troubles of our own to worry much about the supreme fucking The Messiah gives Israel.

Understand that what happens to Israel directly affects us, on the earthly AND spiritual plane.

re: #49 Wishing

He is just beyond belief. Just based on this one issue, the guy should be tossed to the curb.

Don't forget what they said about the settlements!

That is land Israel won in a war of aggression it did not start. Blood was spilled to get it. Sweat has been spent to build it. IT IS ISRAEL'S LAND.

They didn't find my name on the register this morning.

I had to fill out a affidavit ballot.

re: #55 FrogMarch

Jimmy Carter II.

we are screwed.

The more we learn about Obama - the more he will be far worse than Carter. We're still trying to repair the damage the peanut farmer did 30 years later, the damage Obama can / will likely do will take far longer and many lives to repair.

I look forward to a Futurama episode featuring the FICTIONAL head of Obama in the Closet of Presidential Losers. "Bob Dole needs company!"

Good turnout at the poll in west Los Angeles, good to see all the citizens out and participating - even if I know more than half of them are idiots. Of such things is democracy made, and nobody said it was easy!

While I'm taking this with a grain of salt, given the unknown credibility of the source (some Lebanese newspaper?), it's also quite plausible.

Obama is scum

Barry winning guarantees a Bibi victory.

re: #80 Alouette

Sarah Silverman YOU BITCH

What brought that on? Not saying you're wrong.

re: #83 Ben Hur

They didn't find my name on the register this morning.

I had to fill out a affidavit ballot.

Sounds like the work of NROCA...

re: #63 jwpaine

I agree, Mandy. I just think the alligators in which we'll find ourselves up to our asses here at home will take precedence over concerns for Israel's welfare.

I hope I'm wrong.

If Iran nukes Israel, our concerns will be nowhere as great as Israel's.

I think all kinds of things are going to be discovered "after the fact" if Obama is elected, please get out and vote.

re: #82 MandyManners

Don't forget what they said about the settlements!

That is land Israel won in a war of aggression it did not start. Blood was spilled to get it. Sweat has been spent to build it. IT IS ISRAEL'S LAND.

Doesn't matter to the Messiah. His Word will soon become Scripture and all freedom lovers will wail and wear sack-cloth.

So which embassy will be seized this time around?

So?

Will the world explode when Barry loses?

re: #80 Alouette

Sarah Silverman YOU BITCH

Maybe she needs to spend some time on a kibutz.

re: #95 SWPaul

So which embassy will be seized this time around?

All of them since they are only outposts of Imperial Aggression.

In less than 9 and 1/2 hours from now McCain will be the new president elect.

re: #65 jcm

It's not over till it's over. The polls were wrong with Kerry and Gore, and the exit polls really fubared.

It not over, I still think McCain wins, narrowly but wins.

Don't get me wrong. I'm still holding out hope.
But if O wins, it's just a matter of time before the leftwingers go into full throttle thug-mode.

Examples of left-wing thuggery found HERE

and

HERE.

Read the busy PUMA blogs if you want some positivity

Seems despite writing two books about himself, the man's a closed book. Is there anything- anything- about this man that's open?!

re: #82 MandyManners

Don't forget what they said about the settlements!

That is land Israel won in a war of aggression it did not start. Blood was spilled to get it. Sweat has been spent to build it. IT IS ISRAEL'S LAND.

Sadly...a few settlements were tossed in the last week. =(

re: #15 Last Mohican

From Karl Rove's website:

The final Rove & Co. electoral map of the 2008 election cycle points to a 338-200 Barack Obama electoral vote victory over John McCain tomorrow, the largest electoral margin since 1996.

Oh dear God.

Polls always seem to pull to the left. Even when Clinton won, he won by 4% less than the polls indicated he would.

SO take the most recent polls, and handicap them (subtract 4% from OBAMA and give it to McCain) you suddenly have a different Map.

re: #102 Sharmuta

Seems despite writing two books about himself, the man's a closed book. Is there anything- anything- about this man that's open?!

His Mouth, Ego, and Ears.

re: #62 looking closely

re: #69 Born Again Republican

Three and four hours in line to vote? Unheard of, I hope all republicans have that much dedication today. Thanks you guys.

The World Rejoices!

The Greek (center-right) newspaper Avriani features today a big photograph of Obama and the headline: "The End of Jewish Domination in the United States." I only have a PDF of the page (h/t Andrew Apostolou) and cannot figure out how to post it here, but here's a link to a daily news roundup from the Athens News Agency that cites the headline.

re: #96 Ben Hur

So?

Will the world explode when Barry loses?

Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light. Total protonic reversal.

re: #94 FurryOldGuyJeans

Doesn't matter to the Messiah. His Word will soon become Scripture and all freedom lovers will wail and wear sack-cloth.

No, it won't. If that bastard is elected, I know I won't be the only working my ass off to spread the truth.

Charles, come on man.

Don't acquiesce, this way. This story is nothing but unsourced propaganda.

I'm not saying Obama isn't a Palestinian sympathizer. I'm saying this crappy story isn't proof of it.

Heh.

For what it is worth, here is why John McCain just might pull it out today, or at least tomorrow morning: 1) The new Battleground Poll has him down by 1.9 percentage points, 2) internal McCain polls show him gaining fast or leading in key states, 3) the stock market is up today, 4) Karl Rove picked Obama.

re: #109 MandyManners

No, it won't. If that bastard is elected, I know I won't be the only working my ass off to spread the truth.

Truth won't matter to The Messiah; nay, it will be actively pursued and hunted with His Holiness.

re: #74 KingKenrod

Rove, you magnificent bastard?

/LOL

re: #110 Cognito

Mr Media, STFU.

I don't mean to be a Positive Palin (isn't that the opposite of a Negative Nancy?), but check this out:

-According to Rasmussen, 30% of Barry's supporters were going to take the day off from work and school.

-Early reports indicate that there were huge turnouts across the country as soon as the polls opened. People were ostensibly voting before they went to work or school.

-Polling places are expecting another surge of voters after people get out of work/school.

Silent Majority, anyone?

re: #80 Alouette

Sarah Silverman YOU BITCH

This is worth a watch if you haven't seen Jackie Mason slam Sarah...

re: #110 Cognito

Charles, come on man.

Don't acquiesce, this way. This story is nothing but unsourced propaganda.

I'm not saying Obama isn't a Palestinian sympathizer. I'm saying this crappy story isn't proof of it.

Ummmm, define crap? Because you do not believe it? That is not good enough. . .and I still think you are not what you say you are. . .

re: #110 Cognito

Charles, come on man.

Don't acquiesce, this way. This story is nothing but unsourced propaganda.

I'm not saying Obama isn't a Palestinian sympathizer. I'm saying this crappy story isn't proof of it.

Well Bush promised these degenerate terrorists their own filthy little state, isn't it fair to assume that Barry is going to promise them a whole lot more?

How could anyone be surprised by this. The man IS Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Khalid Rashidi and Brezinski and I'm sickened by the thought of this guy in office. Shame on the Jewish voters, shame on the champions of true democracy for voting for this man.

Correction, it wasn't Khalidi, it was Ali Abunimah

Ali Abunimah, a Palestinian rights activist in Chicago who helps run Electronic Intifada, said that he met Obama several times at Palestinian and Arab American community events. At one, a 2000 fundraiser at a private home, Obama called for the U.S. to take an “even-handed” approach toward Israel, Abunimah wrote in an article on the website last year. He did not cite Obama’s specific criticisms.

Abunimah, in a Times interview and on his website, said Obama seemed sympathetic to the Palestinian cause but more circumspect as he ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004. At a dinner gathering that year, Abunimah said, Obama greeted him warmly and said privately that he needed to speak cautiously about the Middle East.

Abunimah quoted Obama as saying that he was sorry he wasn’t talking more about the Palestinian cause, but that his primary campaign had constrained what he could say.

Obama, through his aide Axelrod, denied he ever said those words, and Abunimah’s account could not be independently verified.

re: #117 DisturbedEma

Ummmm, define crap? Because you do not believe it? That is not good enough. . .and I still think you are not what you say you are. . .

Really. What do I say I am, exactly?

re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans

Mr Media, STFU.

What does this have to do with media?

Just got word from my bro that HIS name wasn't on the register either.

re: #110 Cognito

Charles, come on man.

Don't acquiesce, this way. This story is nothing but unsourced propaganda.

I'm not saying Obama isn't a Palestinian sympathizer. I'm saying this crappy story isn't proof of it.

So you only want to see and hear main-stream media approved propaganda, eh?

I am trying to be philosophical about an Obama win. While strong support from the US has always been beneficial, Israel needs to prepare to move forward without this being the case. This means healing the rifts which separate it internally, becoming stronger while being more self-sufficient and responding to this challenge like all the great challenges that she has faced in the past.

Am Yisrael Chai!

Anti-Semitism rising in Europe

HE will save us.

re: #124 FurryOldGuyJeans

So you only want to see and hear main-stream media approved propaganda, eh?

Don't be an idiot.

re: #123 Ben Hur

Just got word from my bro that HIS name wasn't on the register either.

Oh, but only Dems are voter suppressed by the EEEEEEEVIL Republicans.

re: #110 Cognito

Charles, come on man.

Don't acquiesce, this way. This story is nothing but unsourced propaganda.

How is this different from any other mainstream media story? If you haven't noticed, the entire media has lost its credibility in this election.

Frankly, I'm more inclined to trust a Lebanese newpspaper at this point.

re: #128 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh, but only Dems are voter suppressed by the EEEEEEEVIL Republicans.

I told him to get an affidavit ballot and he said they didn;t offer one.

He's going back to ask.

Think this category is infecting not just Crrrrack Obama, but also Olmert/Livni/Bush/Rice & possibly McCain.

I'd like to believe this story, but I don't. I do agree he would probably sell Israel out, but I don't think he'd be dumb enough to actually say it to these blabbermouths.

re: #110 Cognito

Charles, come on man.

Don't acquiesce, this way. This story is nothing but unsourced propaganda.

I'm not saying Obama isn't a Palestinian sympathizer. I'm saying this crappy story isn't proof of it.

Obama can stand up and lie in the faces of the American public about his pro Pali views and it goes unquestioned by the MSM. Based on his life and associations and "good friends and middle east advisors", this story is most likely true. If not, at the least it sheds light on Obama's true leanings. I have no problem with this post.

re: #132 Reluctant Democrat

I'd like to believe this story, but I don't. I do agree he would probably sell Israel out, but I don't think he'd be dumb enough to actually say it to these blabbermouths.

Sure he would.

re: #129 Charles

How is this different from any other mainstream media story? If you haven't noticed, the entire media has lost their credibility in this election.

Frankly, I'm more inclined to trust a Lebanese newpspaper at this point.

It's not a matter of comparison.

It's a matter of meeting the standard of credibility. Don't stoop, even if other people -- mainstream or otherwise -- do.

re: #129 Charles

How is this different from any other mainstream media story? If you haven't noticed, the entire media has lost their credibility in this election.

Frankly, I'm more inclined to trust a Lebanese newpspaper at this point.

I doubt he would notice since he has been such an unabashed MSM booster. The MSM has gone out of its way to be so partisan, so overtly biased, so unashamed in trying to be a 21st Century King Maker. Charles Foster Kane (yes, he was fictitious) had the balls to admit his bias and revel publicly in his naked lust for power. The return of the openly partisan media is long overdue.

re: #132 Reluctant Democrat

I'd like to believe this story, but I don't. I do agree he would probably sell Israel out, but I don't think he'd be dumb enough to actually say it to these blabbermouths.

Of course he would - it goes right with his hubris.

#132

You're so right! Barry would never be so dumb to admit the truth to the Palis.
1)bitter religious gun clingers
2)bankrupt coal industry
3)spread the wealth around

Thank G-d he can't keep his mouth shut.

#129

You're right. Didn't Barry do a similar thing with the Iraqis?

re: #135 Cognito

It's not a matter of comparison.

It's a matter of meeting the standard of credibility. Don't stoop, even if other people -- mainstream or otherwise -- do.

So you now are the sole arbiter of what is credible? PUUUUUULLLEEEEEEZE.

If you haven't noticed Charles has had an uncanny knack for picking the things that really have legs and matter and discarding the dross. The very fact that YOU are making a stink about this pushes the credibility envelope all the much more.

re: #140 FurryOldGuyJeans

All right.

re: #69 Born Again Republican

I got to my precinct at 7 am to a very long line of 99% Obama voters! People who usually vote there say they've never seen anything like it. They can usually step right up to the voting machine. Took 4 hours. I'm in South Carolina. I made to sure stay and vote cause I could see an upset for McCain in this state that's suppose to go to him.

Ditto.

The guy in the line behind me said he had voted at that exact same election station in every election since 1976 and has never seen the turnout he saw today.

re: #140 FurryOldGuyJeans

So you now are the sole arbiter of what is credible? PUUUUUULLLEEEEEEZE.

If you haven't noticed Charles has had an uncanny knack for picking the things that really have legs and matter and discarding the dross. The very fact that YOU are making a stink about this pushes the credibility envelope all the much more.

Well stated. Thank you.

re: #132 Reluctant Democrat

I'd like to believe this story, but I don't. I do agree he would probably sell Israel out, but I don't think he'd be dumb enough to actually say it to these blabbermouths.

Compared to the other stupid foreign policy stuff he's said out loud (like that he wanted to renegotiate NAFTA or sit down in unconditional talks with Ahmedihejad), this is nothing.

I've got no problem believing he said something like this.

re: #53 PAgirlinNC

Don't forget the PUMA factor. These men and women are serious and I believe all of the pollsters and MSM have not even considered them a factor. The PUMAs will be the game changers in a lot of areas. Thank you PUMAs!

I have my fingers crossed. The PUMAs have been working themselves into the dirt in the battle ground states to get McPalin elected. If Obama is defeated, we will all owe the PUMAs a big "Thank you".

re: #80 Alouette

Sarah Silverman YOU BITCH

Not to worry, Alouette. The Florida bubbes and zaydes are voting for McCain.

/IF they can stand the lines at the polls...

According to the report, the Democratic senator told Abbas and Fayyad that he “supports the rights of the Palestinians to east Jerusalem, as well as their right to a stable, sovereign state”, but asked them to keep the remarks a secret.

He also tried to make a secret deal with the Iraqis. Ghu alone knows what he's been up to with A'jad and Hugo. This guy needs to be arrested and tried for treason.

I hope I am not running a fowl of LGF secret rule EoD, but you all might find this very interesting:

Torah Codes

Tighten your seatbelts. Look at what they found:

Amazing: Look at the 2nd & 3rd sentences from Chapter 38 of the Prophet Yechezkel (Ezekiel)

Start with the letter Aleph in the word Nasi (President) and count every 7th letter; you get: OBAMA!
It begins talking about the mysterious final war between Gog and Magog to precede the era of Redemption / Mashiach - of peace for all people. But, first there is some very frightening imagery in the Torah's description of this episode...
Obama's name is encoded in the first phrase where it is talking about the leader or "Nasi" of Gog.
This Gog will gather up the nations and attack Israel...

This is all very On Topic, if I do say so myself.

There is also this article: "Obama Tells Abbas: I support Dividing Up Jerusalem". (you have to read the quotes from the PLO/PA/Fatah)

Also, we know that American/Israelis are voting heavily for McCain, American/Lebanese on the other hand are voting overwhelmingly Obama

The Jews that vote for Obama want a Pal state with E.Jerusalem as its capital. Applying the LGF quote of the day from a few days back from Niels Bohr*: The Jews as a group are both the smartest people in the world, and the dumbest.

*The opposite of a deep profound truth, is another deep profound truth.

Just on Fox News: Two black panthers one with a night stick intimidating white voters at polling place. Police showed up told the guy with night stick to leave but left the other guy standing in the doorway.

re: #150 Parker in US

Was it a black panther or a puma ?

re: #150 Parker in US

Just on Fox News: Two black panthers one with a night stick intimidating white voters at polling place. Police showed up told the guy with night stick to leave but left the other guy standing in the doorway.

One also was apparently tapping the stick and menacing a gentleman and stating "a black man is going to be president no matter what." Or something to that effect.

re: #134 Charles

re: #132 Reluctant Democrat

I'd like to believe this story, but I don't. I do agree he would probably sell Israel out, but I don't think he'd be dumb enough to actually say it to these blabbermouths.

Sure he would.

It goes back to Obama's need for his narcissistic supply. He will say whatever his audience wants to hear if it makes them adulate him. That, and the effect of the leftist anti-Semitic swamp he has inhabited his entire life where such statements are considered correct, courageous and normal.

re: #153 Kenneth

That, and the effect of the leftist anti-Semitic swamp he has inhabited his entire life where such statements are considered correct, courageous and normal.

Which is exactly why I believe he thinks that being Pro-PLO and helping split the "Zionist Occupying" Israel is the right thing to do, and will follow the leftist plan of giving the PLO everything they demand including Jerusalem, etc.

I've found it interesting/disturbing that back in the early 1990s (around 1989?) the Islamists, the antisemites, the history revisionists, etc., would also discuss "Israel's original sin." (Was that phrase coined by B. Morris?) Whenever I heard this phrase I thought of anti-Israel, antisemites, and how "sweet sounding" such a phrase would be...yet, of course, it entails the notion of destroying the state of Israel...along with an appeal to "Christians", I suppose.

Now we have Obama taking up that exact same phrase -- back on March 18, 2008, in a speech he referred to "America's original sin" (referring to slavery)...and just how awful AmeriKKKa is, and how necessary it is to vote ObamaMessiah so as to "expiate that original sin." yeah, sure. And all of these whole faux Christian notions -- "original sin" -- "expiating original sin" -- all of these "Christian" notions applied to Nation States have been taken up (as I laugh) by certain individuals. (Read some of today's editorials in the National Post.) The same "JINO" who would become irate at the mere thought of a S. Palin as VP, suddenly adopt Christian metaphors and terminology in support of Obama...I find this truly bizarre...

Let's see what the exit polls numbers will say about the Jewish vote. If they vote overwhelmingly for Obama, as expected, then Jews in Israel will know who they should blame.

re: #156 SouthAmericanWay

and who exactly SHOULD THEY BLAME?

Voted this morning in Evanston just north of Chicago. Took 20 minutes. The town is swarming with obama people. I get the sense that supporting them makes them feel good so they gloss over or dismiss any questions about obama as a GOP created distraction. Sadly I think we are in store for Carter II. Word to the rest of the country, don't trust anyone or anything coming out of Cook County Illinois

WHAT? He is not our damn president yet!
/and naturally he wants them to keep secret. With him that is par for the course. And what I have learned about this man he would say exactly that.
*spit*

re: #154 WrathofG-d

Exactly.

re: #150 Parker in US

Just on Fox News: Two black panthers one with a night stick intimidating white voters at polling place. Police showed up told the guy with night stick to leave but left the other guy standing in the doorway.

Why weren't they both arrested?
/this is scaring and a damn shame!

re: #158 areopagitica

Voted this morning in Evanston just north of Chicago. Took 20 minutes. The town is swarming with obama people. I get the sense that supporting them makes them feel good so they gloss over or dismiss any questions about obama as a GOP created distraction. Sadly I think we are in store for Carter II. Word to the rest of the country, don't trust anyone or anything coming out of Cook County Illinois

I think 'Carter II' is optimistic.

re: #157 WrathofG-d

Well, let's see -- there's the media in the tank for the Zero; there's the whole un-democratic Democratic Party machinery which gained the Zero's nomination; and then there's the JINOs who run around exclaiming about the wonders and marvels (and the ability of Obama to "expiate America's original sin") of their Messiah (they're not expressing any "fears" about Israel's security, so why should Gentiles?); etc., etc.

re: #162 Suzette

PIMF
scaring should be scary!

re: #156 SouthAmericanWay

Let's see what the exit polls numbers will say about the Jewish vote. If they vote overwhelmingly for Obama, as expected, then Jews in Israel will know who they should blame.

I can't wait to see the Catholic vote, particularly in PA and OH.

Maybe blame those Catholics who voted for not just a pro-choicer but a militant pro abortion candidate.

Voting for "change" and a Mortal Sin in one shot.

re: #163 right_wing2

I voted early but my son went at 7:00 this morning and he said it was an hour wait!

re: #164 J.S.

If you wish to say that Jews should have a specific interest in not voting for someone that deals with the enemies of the Jewish state, then fine.

But I will not accept that if Obama wins, screws up, and allows Iran to nuke Israel, or forces Israel to split Jerusalem, that it would be the American Jews' fault.

If Obama wins, it will be AMERICA's fault. Not simply "the Jews".

Blame it on the Jews, is just so.....you know....ANTISEMITIC!

Bush pretended to be a friend to Israel an he wasn't.

With Obama, Israel can not pretend and if they wish to survive will have to do what is necessary for them in spite of Obama and his Israel haters.

re: #166 Opinionated

Catholic vote is going McCain/Palin in my neck of the woods.

re: #130 Ben Hur

I told him to get an affidavit ballot and he said they didn;t offer one.

He's going back to ask.

Call the Board of Elections and complain.
Also call the election fraud/intimidation/irregularites hotline. Most states have one.
There's also the hotline set up by the McCain/Palin campaign, 866-976-VOTE. If you are both registered as Republicans, definitely call that, too.

re: #168 WrathofG-d

Hey Wrath hope you voted today or early! :)

re: #168 WrathofG-d

If you wish to say that Jews should have a specific interest in not voting for someone that deals with the enemies of the Jewish state, then fine.

But I will not accept that if Obama wins, screws up, and allows Iran to nuke Israel, or forces Israel to split Jerusalem, that it would be the American Jews' fault.

If Obama wins, it will be AMERICA's fault. Not simply "the Jews".

Blame it on the Jews, is just so.....you know....ANTISEMITIC!

I have to agree. It will be America's fault. All the ones who didn't inform themselves or the ones who think Obama is Santa Claus.

re: #168 WrathofG-d

It's not about "blaming it on Jews" -- it's rather a recognition that there's "a problem" with respect to American, Democratic Jews...They don't give a [fill in the blank with expletive] about Israel. It does not concern them. End of story. Even if Israel is nuked -- would they care? I suspect the answer would be "no." or "too bad." or "what else is new?" (in order to aportion "blame" you have to be first aware that something's "wrong" or "blameworthy.")

Except maybe for those who will benefit when Obama distributes the wealth to them, and Islamics, and American hating Leftists, it is against everyone's interest to vote for Obama.

So whether they are Jews, or Catholics or Protestants, anyone, and they fell for the mass hysteria and propaganda and supported Obama, well, be angry with them, pity them, most will be sorry soon enough.

re: #174 J.S.

I have to go to a meeting, and will be back in about 1 hr, however, I will in no way place any specific blame solely on the Jews.

we are 3% max of the U.S. population. If Obama wins, its the fault of America...not "The Jews".

As for the Jews that hate Israel, we should remember that 3/4th of the Jews in Egypt didn't leave. Only 1/4 believed even after the miracles!

Like we didn't know this?

Sorry, I don't believe this.

Remember when Michelle Obama gave that exclusive interview to that African news agency? How terrible! How shocking! Had it been true, it would have been quite the scandal.

But it wasn't true. The African news agency made the whole thing up.

I think that's what's happening here.

I hate Obama as much as the rest of you, but this doesn't pass the laugh test.

re: #176 WrathofG-d

I'm not -- repeat not -- placing "blame solely on the Jews." That's not what I'm saying. However, that does not exonerate Democratic Jews (both the ones who despise Israel and those who claim to be "Zionists") -- they, along with everyone else who votes for Obama -- they get what they deserve. And once again, if so-called "Zionist", Leftist, Democratic Jews have no qualms about Obama (whether it's Obama's associations with antisemites or Obama's associating with Israel haters, etc.), will eagerly endorse and vote for Obama -- then, why should any one else have qualms about Obama?

re: #80 Alouette

/Please do not insult bitches.

So, the same people who partied in the streets on 9/11 are schmoozing our likely next president? C'mon, stop worrying, what could happen?

re: #179 J.S.

I'm not -- repeat not -- placing "blame solely on the Jews." That's not what I'm saying. However, that does not exonerate Democratic Jews (both the ones who despise Israel and those who claim to be "Zionists") -- they, along with everyone else who votes for Obama -- they get what they deserve. And once again, if so-called "Zionist", Leftist, Democratic Jews have no qualms about Obama (whether it's Obama's associations with antisemites or Obama's associating with Israel haters, etc.), will eagerly endorse and vote for Obama -- then, why should any one else have qualms about Obama?

Look up the essay "The Great Liberal Death Wish"

People, people, let's not go overboard.
Remember, these are the people who told us that there were "THOUSANDS, er, no, HUNDREDS of dead at Jenin - no, wait, they tried to kill us all & they failed!" - but will still say there was "genocide" if you ask. Even if you don't.
The PLO, et al, are liars, first & foremost.
As much as I detest Obama, this is pretty stupid, even for him.

re: #22 pat

Pat,

This Jew and many others I know voted proudly for Sen. McCain, and we are Republicans in a very blue state. Tragically, the more 'liberal' Jews just do not get it, but if, G-d forbid, Hussein wins? They, like the German Jews who thought that they were assimilated, and considered to be just like other Germans learned an horrific lesson that the younger Jews have not paid attention to. The Shoah is taught in schools, but it is minimized, and compared to any other thing...it is not just another 'thing', damn it.

And if the worst happens? The Jews who voted for him will learn a lesson their parents should have made sure they remember and pass on to their kids, etc. re exactly what the Shoah was...here we sit, over 60 years after, and they do not want to remember. Those who forget history.... I was born in 1938, and learned from my family, and later on, news reels is the movies, books and first hand accounts from members of our Synagogue.

Would Hussein and his civilian troops be that far removed? I think he dearly wants to put people into ethnic and racial groups, pitting one against the other, and progressing from there...may he never get the chance.

Never forget-never forgive.

I have to say, this is a surprise to me.
I am seeing so many of my Jewish friends and relatives (even the gay and lesbian ones) voting for McCain!
I have never heard such wholehearted support for a Republican from them.
Well, this is CA and who knows, our votes will probably be buried in a 22% lead for the ''0'' but it is still amazing.

I know this is true. I was in Ramallah a few months ago at a party of sorts (went with a journalist friend of a friend). The Palis told me the same thing: "Obama has always been our man. Even before he was a Senator." They didn't like his AIPAC speech where he claimed he would not divide Jerusalem, but then kind of laughed that he had changed his tune shortly thereafter. "He's a politician," one guy told me. "But he's on our side."

I might as well add that this "party" was in an apartment with a Cuban flag on the wall and a bottle of Johnny Walker black on the counter, most of it gone. These self-declared leftists will be the first to go when and if Hamas gets its hands on Ramallah.

re: #144 looking closely

Well, that's true.

I'm Shocked! Shocked!

Hi all . First post, been lurking since 2001, re: Wrath of God -I looked at Ez. 38 I don't see it unless I count a nine and ten

I'm shocked, shocked to find that Obama is supporting terrorists!

Perhaps these Black Panther types are the forerunnners of BHO's civilian security apparatus?

Fun times ahead . . .

I'm with Buck; it's no surprise that the PaliArabs would "leak" this but that's not reason enough to believe it.

That said, I don't think that this supposed leak differs materially from the Powell/Rice stance on the "peace process." Even if Obama told them something nicer than they had ever heard from any President, I suspect that they have heard substantially the same drivel from our diplomats.

Here's hoping that the Israeli electorate does the right [sic] thing in February.

Doesn't matter what Obama promised. Israel will be THE ONE to decide.

Yea , and a palestinian radio station reported that Ariel Sharon stated in Parliament , that "we control the US" ......of course a dumb Chicago reporter bought it ....but as expected , it was just more lies , just like this was .