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Election Day, Thread Two

Open | Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:37:55 am PST

If you were having trouble with the “reply” and “quote” features, they’re fixed now. So here’s an open thread while we mainline some more Kona coffee...

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1 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:23am

Thank you Charles for all your hard work! Here's a virtual drink on me!

2 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:23am

I have to work my part-time job tonight. Not sure how many people at the bar will be happy to have FOX news on but - I't the bartender - I control the remotes.

3 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:36am

The Acorns are falling from the trees.

4 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:38am

McCain/Palin '08!

5 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:57am

{hamsters}

6 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:02am

re: #2 PAgirlinNC

Dang it - I'm the bartender....

7 CalBear84  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:03am

It's a good day to be a Republican!
Go Palin / McCain.

8 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:20am

re: #2 PAgirlinNC

I have to work my part-time job tonight. Not sure how many people at the bar will be happy to have FOX news on but - I't the bartender - I control the remotes.

Any chance the house gets a double on the house if McCain wins?

9 P. Aaron  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:30am

Back in the Saddle by Aerosmith is still the most kickass rock song.

10 nucular_option  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:33am

Phone polls are worthless since many don't have land lines now and have gone to cell phones. I haven't received a single robo call on my vonage line. And I'm unaware of any polling on my wife's phone. So I'd hazard a guess that democrats have more land line phones than republicans.

Good work on the site, Charles!

11 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:46am

I'm so glad you've got these open threads! I feel like I'm jumping out of my skin here.

I haven't voted yet because I can wait until mid-morning. I don't want to add another body in front of someone who has to be at work at a certain time.

My area could go either way. It can be rather conservative. I doubt Cali will go for McCain, but numbers count, IMO. The other issues are worth voting on though and they're important.

12 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:10am

Hmm, I wonder how CA's Prop 2, if it passes, will impact the hamsters.......

13 CalBear84  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:11am

re: #2 PAgirlinNC

You go girl!
Better keep that remote in a safe place!

14 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:24am

I just got home from voting. I also took the time to thank all the poll workers. Needless to say- they were surprised anyone thought to say "thank you" to them

15 Charles  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:27am

There's a Ron Paulian emailing me links to Lew Rockwell's site. Freaks.

16 hermit  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:34am

I hope everyone remembers to chip in for hamster kibble!

17 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:44am

re: #14 Sharmuta

I just got home from voting. I also took the time to thank all the poll workers. Needless to say- they were surprised anyone thought to say "thank you" to them

You are the eternal optimist!

18 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:51am

re: #10 nucular_option

Phone polls are worthless since many don't have land lines now and have gone to cell phones. I haven't received a single robo call on my vonage line. And I'm unaware of any polling on my wife's phone. So I'd hazard a guess that democrats have more land line phones than republicans.

Good work on the site, Charles!

That's funny because I received 2 polling calls on my Sprint mobile phone last month.

19 Charles  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:43:22am

I'll be posting a lot of open discussion threads today to try to keep any one thread from getting too long and taxing our hamsters like Obama's going to tax the country.

20 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:43:43am

re: #17 Jetpilot1101

Without people taking the time to be a poll worker- our democracy wouldn't be working today.

21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:43:52am

re: #9 P. Aaron

Back in the Saddle by Aerosmith is still the most kickass rock song.

Obviously, you are forgetting AC/DC's Jailbreak

22 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:05am

re: #2 PAgirlinNC

My son and brother were in a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant watching a football game on Saturday, when an Obama ad came on.

My son said the ENTIRE bar went completely silent- and there were still other games on other channels. Some drunk guy yelled out, "Well, get ready for higher taxes!". Nobody looked happy to see Obama. As soon as the ad was over everyone went back to enjoying themselves. LOL

23 itellu3times  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:08am

Gonna hit the road soon, see if I can access LGF from work today, won't be seeing home again until mebbe it's all over tonight. Glad if the features are back in gear, hamsters full of vitamin B12 and over their hallucinations, let's face the future sober. At least, for a little while.

24 NC State of Mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:08am

I just asked one of the three people here at work who have Obama shirts on who controls congress. She asked me what I meant. I said "Which party." She said Republicans. I explained to her the deal to her. She does not believe me.

Damn!

25 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:57am

I just sent my "ballot signal" to Obama and voted for McCain.

26 billhedrick  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:02am

I just gotta second invite from a very left Dem friend who is having an election party at her house. I am one of the few Right wing guys that would be there. I am considering it, especially if I feel McCain will win for the barely suppressed gloating possibilities, also the Packer fan at a Vikings fans' party aspect of it.

27 hermit  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:03am

re: #19 Charles

many thanks from all the ADD Lizards - we'll be like cats in a laser show!

28 cg76  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:09am

Yay, voted this morning. Got to the poll at 7:15, left just before 8 am. Granted this is a tinyish town in Northern California, but there were still a dozen people in line when I got there.

29 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:23am

re: #24 NC State of Mind

You have the internet there right? Just have her look it up.

30 CalBear84  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:26am

re: #11 kynna
I've done everything I can do to convince my thinking-challenged friends here in SoCal to vote McCain.
My wife and I just voted. Everything went smoothly.
I smell victory in the air!

31 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:34am

re: #8 Jetpilot1101

If McCain's win is so solid tonight that no lawsuit or vote re-count could overturn it, I will buy everyone a double!

32 Charles  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:36am

I should have known better than to visit Rockwell's hate site -- he's ranting about "Republicanism is dead" and "this is the price we pay for rejecting Ron Paul."

33 Lee Coller  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:37am

Let's not forget the Senate. If Obama gets elected and the dems get 60 seats in the Senate were really screwed. If they don't get the 60, the reps can at least filibuster the most egregious of the left's desires.

If he gets in with 60 senate seats, I think the market will crash tomorrow.

34 itellu3times  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:53am

re: #24 NC State of Mind

I just asked one of the three people here at work who have Obama shirts on who controls congress. She asked me what I meant. I said "Which party." She said Republicans. I explained to her the deal to her. She does not believe me.

Damn!

Dick Cheney, right?

And Halliburton has the parking concession, everyone knows that.

35 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:56am

Polls can have an unintentional bias when there is less than 100% participation because of the likelihood of various groups to respond. For example, on average, Democrats are about twice as likely as Republicans to respond to exit polling. Naturally, this tends to skew results in favor of the Democrats; however, you can't really read a positive Republican exit poll as affirmative, because the sampling may just have gotten lucky and picked mostly young, enthusiastic Republicans.

36 Born Again Republican  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:08am

I was devastated last night when my son informed me he was voting for Obama. No facts could dissuade him. I came soooo close to disowning him. :-)

37 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:16am

Thanks for the new thread, Charles! My browser thanks you as well!

38 oh_dude  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:16am

Polling place update: Irvine, CA

Something odd going on this year. I've been polling at the same little neighborhood spot for the past five years and I have to tell you that I've never seen a turn-out like this. I go to my polling place just about the same time every year. First I vote, then it's off to the office.

Every year until just now, I've pulled up easily found a parking spot right in front of the polling place, checked in and voted in less than 15 minutes. No more than two or three other people there voting.

This year, there is no parking and the line to vote is easily out the door with at least 20 people in line. Pretty crazy for our little neighborhood polling place.

The way I see it, someone is going to lose and lose big.

39 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:35am

re: #5 Who Watches the Watchmen?

{hamsters}

There, fixed that for ya!

40 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:50am

re: #32 Charles

I should have known better than to visit Rockwell's hate site -- he's ranting about "Republicanism is dead" and "this is the price we pay for rejecting Ron Paul."

Isn't Rockwell a rabid, Jew-hating bastard?

41 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:51am

re: #14 Sharmuta

I noticed that too when I thanked them after voting this morning. The workers in my polling location seemed surprised that someone thanked them.

Line was consistently 15-20 deep (longest I've seen since the Davis recall election) the time I was there - but it moved quickly. I also noticed almost every person in line using a photo id to speed things along...and when 2 people weren't on the roll, they were quickly offered provisional ballots or assistance to find their proper polling location. Very efficient....but then this is flyover LA County....

42 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:57am

re: #32 Charles

I should have known better than to visit Rockwell's hate site -- he's ranting about "Republicanism is dead" and "this is the price we pay for rejecting Ron Paul."

Talk about stuck on stupid. Some people just don't GET it.

43 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:58am

re: #15 Charles

Is that all? No promises of a Gold Standard?

44 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:02am

Hey the other election thread wasn't full yet. I thought there was a 1000 comment minimum?

45 Brisco County  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:05am

A 269 to 269 tie would result in an Obama/Palin presidency. That's probably as smart as mixing bleach and ammonia.

46 CalBear84  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:21am

re: #26 billhedrick
It could be glorious!

47 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:24am

re: #33 Lee Coller

Let's not forget the Senate. If Obama gets elected and the dems get 60 seats in the Senate were really screwed. If they don't get the 60, the reps can at least filibuster the most egregious of the left's desires.

If he gets in with 60 senate seats, I think the market will crash tomorrow.

The market will crash if Obama is elected. Most people will sell stocks to avoid paying 50% capital gains taxes. It's going to get worse folks, much worse. I don't know why Wall Street is up today except that maybe they think McCain will win.

48 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:42am

re: #19 Charles

I'll be posting a lot of open discussion threads today to try to keep any one thread from getting too long and taxing our hamsters like Obama's going to tax the country.

Cool. It's going to be a doozy of a day. I doubt most of us will get to sleep early tonight.

49 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:07am

re: #32 Charles

Frankly, that site is as bad as Political Cesspool as far as I am concerned.

50 Opinionated  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:16am

Take a deep breath. Look at the scenery of your surroundings. See if you can catch old glory freely in the breeze somewhere. Imprint it all on your memory.

After the Left's "change" comes to America, the nostalgia of this memory may give you some comfort.

51 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:26am

re: #36 Born Again Republican

I was devastated last night when my son informed me he was voting for Obama. No facts could dissuade him. I came soooo close to disowning him. :-)

Don't feel too devastated...my son disowned me five years ago.

52 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:46am

re: #41 Athos

I've never thanked my poll workers before, but I'm really glad I did today. They were all seniors except for one young lady. I was glad to see a younger person being involved.

53 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:56am

re: #31 PAgirlinNC

If McCain's win is so solid tonight that no lawsuit or vote re-count could overturn it, I will buy everyone a double!

I am deciding now what to order...
*grin*

54 billhedrick  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:05am

Ah just noticed the user Icons are disabled. Sokay. But I miss my Klingon trifoil

55 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:15am

re: #47 Jetpilot1101

The market will crash if Obama is elected. Most people will sell stocks to avoid paying 50% capital gains taxes. It's going to get worse folks, much worse. I don't know why Wall Street is up today except that maybe they think McCain will win.

And I wouldn't blame them one bit.

56 ~BfromTX  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:36am

Voted this morning...was a bit surprised...dumb poll workers. I had to ask to sign my name on the voting roll and explain to the poll worker that is how you keep track of who has voted and who has not so no one can easily vote for some one else that just didn't show up. Deer in headlights...very bazaar. Was only one of three people in there, although it was a bit early (7:45am CST)

57 joncelli  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:39am

I'M NOT OVERCAFFEINATED! AND STOP VIBRATING SO MUCH!

58 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:43am

re: #53 Wishing

I'll take bourbon & coke!

59 CalBear84  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:47am

re: #36 Born Again Republican
Paraphrasing Churchill:
A man of 25 who is not a Liberal has no heart.
A man of 35 who is not a Conservative has no brain.

60 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:12am

re: #32 Charles

I should have known better than to visit Rockwell's hate site -- he's ranting about "Republicanism is dead" and "this is the price we pay for rejecting Ron Paul."

DRAMA

61 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:18am

lets all hope for a transformative election outcome today.
a McCain victory would drive a stake throught the heart of the MSM.

62 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:28am

Charles - This is my first presidential election with LGF. I'm staying here today because all I've gotten out of the MSM is lies, and I don't expect they'll change. I don't think I've thanked you enough for running this top-notch site. So, I'll thank you again.

63 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:30am

re: #51 Macker

Steve Doocy had the best comback for this for parents with kids in college. Ask them if they like going to college? Ask them if they appreciate mom and dad paying for it. Then tell them to go vote your conscience.

64 Ron Shaw  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:34am

Metro Atlanta, GA...6AM in line to vote...2 hour wait but 3 votes cast for the good guys and it looked like a great turnout for McDaddy and MaPalin...which is a surprising development for Metro ATL in the early AM!

65 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:39am

re: #56 ~BfromTX

Were they Demo☭rats?

66 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:47am

re: #2 PAgirlinNC

I have to work my part-time job tonight. Not sure how many people at the bar will be happy to have FOX news on but - I't the bartender - I control the remotes.

Get me a few shots of Basil at cost, please?

67 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:12am

Food for thought from the kos website:

will apologize in advance for the shortness of this diary. I felt it was important to get this out. I had an urgent call from the Head of Obama's Chester County offices. They had NO ONE volunteering in Coatesville, Pa. NO ONE!

68 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:24am

All four in my clan didn't vote for Obama, and we didn't vote for any of the sideshow freaks, either. My persuasive logic convinced them to vote McCain/Palin - despite my independent leaning.

69 hermit  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:35am

Did you know...there is no constitutional provision requiring electors to vote with the popular vote of their state? The states must have their own reqm'ts?

70 Brisco County  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:37am

re: #24 NC State of Mind

I just asked one of the three people here at work who have Obama shirts on who controls congress. She asked me what I meant. I said "Which party." She said Republicans. I explained to her the deal to her. She does not believe me.

Damn!

Maybe high voter turn-out isn't good for the country.

71 joncelli  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:40am

re: #15 Charles

All I can think about now when somebody mentions Lew Rockwell is the image of him shtupping Cindy Sheehan. Ugh.

72 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:46am

Voting turnout is on track to smash previous turnout records in my smallish conservative precinct and the similar precinct which votes at the same location... we'll see how it goes.

73 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:47am

re: #57 joncelli

I'M NOT OVERCAFFEINATED! AND STOP VIBRATING SO MUCH!

I ate a huge breakfast and have not sucked down as much tea as I'd like in order to help me keep the heebie-jeebies at bay.

74 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:48am

re: #55 Macker

An article posted by the NY Observer yesterday noted that Wall Streeters were not looking forward to an Obama presidency for the reasons noted - he's going to tax the heck out of investments and reduce capital because of tax transfers of wealth.

75 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:12am

re: #47 Jetpilot1101

That's one of the things that I have been hearing in whispers....that the assumption on the Street is that the polls are overstating Obama's popularity. I do expect a 1000 point drop by the end of the week if The One wins.

BTW for Lee Collier - 60 isn't as important number as maybe 58.....it would only take a couple of the RINO's to vote for cloture to stop any fillibuster, so Reid doesn't have to have 60 under the D. (Isn't it interesting how little the approval ratings of Congress were mentioned this cycle? We heard non-stop about Dubya's 26%-29% approval - but nothing about the 9-15% for Congress.)

76 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:25am

Charles,

Heartfelt thanks to you (and to my fellow Lizards) for being here. I could not have made it through this election without you.

*salute*

77 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:32am

re: #61 alien_mind

lets all hope for a transformative election outcome today.
a McCain victory would drive a stake throught the heart of the MSM.

The MSM as we knew it is dead anyway. Anyone who actually has a brain left knows that Big Media was totally in the tank for the Big Nothing. Even if he wins the day today, the media will never again be viewed by anyone who isn't a zombie (no offense to our undead brother/sister on LGF!) as unbiased and fair.

78 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:36am

re: #67 Typicalwhitey

Heh!

79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:05am

re: #59 CalBear84

Paraphrasing Churchill:
A man of 25 who is not a Liberal has no heart.
A man of 35 who is not a Conservative has no brain.

Always knew I was a heartless bastard.

80 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:12am

My friend in Northern Virginia said there were about 400 people in line at 0600 at his polling place.

A Democratic State Senator was going down the line helpfully offering "Democratic sample ballots."

81 Silhouette  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:18am

OT- On days like this, we can vote, but for those that can't volunteer or work at the polls and want to do something, may I suggest ..?

SEND A PRE-PAID PHONE CARD TO A LONELY SOLIDER OVERSEAS

82 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:22am

My husband is hoping to get off work in time to vote. Everything's been kind of crazy here and I just didn't think about him potentially having trouble getting to the polls the day of. He should have voted early.

I went to bed praying and I woke up praying. Whatever happens today, we are going to need a lot of help.

83 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:31am

re: #75 Athos

1000 points at least if not more. Wall Street knows they are screwed if Obama wins. I'm buying gold and as much of it as I can.

84 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:34am

re: #67 Typicalwhitey

LOL. Still in the basement - under the mound of Cheetos.

86 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:37am

re: #71 joncelli

All I can think about now when somebody mentions Lew Rockwell is the image of him shtupping Cindy Sheehan. Ugh.

He frakked that old bag?

87 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:44am

re: #53 Wishing

I haven't decided what I am going to do at 2:00am when the bar is closed. If Obama wins, I think I will take myself home and drink until the sun comes up, call off work and continue drinking. If McCain wins, I really want to drink to celebrate but God knows I want to come to work tomorrow to see and hear all of the freakin' people here cry and moan that they "had another election stolen!"

88 Thanos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:04am

Hmmm. Going off internet traffic right now, this site and other right wing sites are getting crushed with traffic, DKOS loads with a snap. When I checked they had 15 comments on an article that's been up a half hour.

89 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:13am

re: #80 scratch

My friend in Northern Virginia said there were about 400 people in line at 0600 at his polling place.

A Democratic State Senator was going down the line helpfully offering "Democratic sample ballots."

Did someone ask for a Republican sample ballot? sheesh

90 apachegunner  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:18am

way to go re: #68 Cap'n DOC

91 Tupac23X  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:27am

Chalk up one more vote against the Big Zero and socialism.

Unfortunately, I have little confidence that the ballot box results will turn out favorably.

Fortunately, the bullet box is full. (if the oft-suggested leftist threats of violence should ever come to pass in my "sector")

Hoping against hope for a Dewey defeats Truman moment, but I think I'll safely retreat from most of the news over the coming days as the coronation of this evil man as their president sickens me to my core.

N0Bama. Ever.

92 Lee Coller  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:35am

re: #75 Athos

That's one of the things that I have been hearing in whispers....that the assumption on the Street is that the polls are overstating Obama's popularity. I do expect a 1000 point drop by the end of the week if The One wins.

BTW for Lee Collier - 60 isn't as important number as maybe 58.....it would only take a couple of the RINO's to vote for cloture to stop any fillibuster, so Reid doesn't have to have 60 under the D. (Isn't it interesting how little the approval ratings of Congress were mentioned this cycle? We heard non-stop about Dubya's 26%-29% approval - but nothing about the 9-15% for Congress.)

That's why I said the most egregious. I'm assuming the Olympia Snow's will go along with the Dems on many of the items.

93 cliffster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:51am

Hey everyone. I got back from voting an hour ago. Yay! The line was long, which I am fine with. I'm in a heavy McCain precinct.

94 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:59am

re: #32 Charles

I should have known better than to visit Rockwell's hate site -- he's ranting about "Republicanism is dead" and "this is the price we pay for rejecting Ron Paul."

Sounds like a Ron Paul supporter all right: nutty as a fruitcake.re: #67 Typicalwhitey

Food for thought from the kos website:

Reason for hope from PA. I hope we win there today.

95 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:03am

re: #80 scratch

Isn't that illegal electioneering?

96 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:11am

re: #86 Macker

He frakked that old bag?

eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww. gross. now i need to go poke out my minds eye.

97 hermit  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:11am

re: #76 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Charles,

Heartfelt thanks to you (and to my fellow Lizards) for being here. I could not have made it through this election without you.

*salute*

I feel like watching Band of Brothers. Although I am here with "Band of Lizards" - this is better.
*salute*

98 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:41am

re: #66 MandyManners

Get me a few shots of Basil at cost, please?

...and when that runs out we can start on the Bulleitt and work up through the Booker's and maybe throw in a shot or 2 of some really old Pappy Van Winkle.

99 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:48am

We're in the middle of selecting our benefits packages here at work for the next 2 weeks. I'm holding off till after tonight to see which I end up taking so I can be ready for the worst.

100 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:48am

re: #86 Macker

He frakked that old bag?

That's not an image I ever want in my mind.

101 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:56am

Good Morning Lizards! It's a glorious day in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

I voted, didn't have to wait in line. The electronic ballot was simple enough.

How are you-all this morning?

102 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:22am

re: #80 scratch

HE CAN'T DO THAT.

103 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:25am

re: #100 Honorary Yooper

Good thing I'm using the BSG euphemism, eh.

104 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:44am

re: #83 Jetpilot1101

1000 points at least if not more. Wall Street knows they are screwed if Obama wins. I'm buying gold and as much of it as I can.

Dont expect change when u buy a loaf of bread.

105 Pete-billy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:01am

hi there, today it will be a very very very long day like 2000, somehow i feel it and i hope McCain will be the next POTUS.

106 spirochete  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:01am

Drudge showing Hillary politicking inside a polling area, 5 feet from booths.

107 cliffster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:03am

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Reason for hope from PA. I hope we win there today.

If the GOP wins PA, the roles are completely reversed. Obama has to play catch-up at that point. No matter what the national polls say.

108 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:28am

No matter the outcome of this election the landscape of America is going to change big time in regards to which institutions we trust and the make up of the major political parties. Dems crossing over to become Repubs, Conservatives really frustrated with the Repubs, and so much more.
The coming days promise to be exciting and difficult and at times painful but I believe a new America is going to emerge from the ashes of this election cycle.
Now that future has a far better chance of succeeding with McCain as president then it does with Obama.

109 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:38am

re: #106 spirochete

You have got to be kidding me. That is illegal.

110 summergurl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:57am

re: #26 billhedrick

I just gotta second invite from a very left Dem friend who is having an election party at her house. I am one of the few Right wing guys that would be there. I am considering it, especially if I feel McCain will win for the barely suppressed gloating possibilities, also the Packer fan at a Vikings fans' party aspect of it.

Wear your Cheesehead proudly! There's alot of us out there -

Man to be in a room of liberal Viking fans when Mac wins sporting green and gold. LIfe doesn't get much better than that-

111 frogman4000  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:04am

add 2 votes for mac in eastern PA, lines were growing...500 out of 1,700 eligible had voted by 930am...

112 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:11am

re: #15 Charles

There's a Ron Paulian emailing me links to Lew Rockwell's site. Freaks.

I always feel like, somebody's watching me...Oh, not that Rockwell.

/Never mind.

113 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:22am

re: #109 Cap'n DOC

You have got to be kidding me. That is illegal.

Rules are different for those with a 'D' after their name......

114 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:22am

re: #87 PAgirlinNC

I haven't decided what I am going to do at 2:00am when the bar is closed. If Obama wins, I think I will take myself home and drink until the sun comes up, call off work and continue drinking. If McCain wins, I really want to drink to celebrate but God knows I want to come to work tomorrow to see and hear all of the freakin' people here cry and moan that they "had another election stolen!"

well I sure will enjoy watching them eat the humble pie! WOOT!

115 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:24am

re: #101 ggt

How are you-all this morning?

Wondering if Chicago will still be standing on Friday ... whoever wins.

116 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:34am

re: #71 joncelli

All I can think about now when somebody mentions Lew Rockwell is the image of him shtupping Cindy Sheehan. Ugh.

WTF?

117 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:46am

re: #107 cliffster

If the GOP wins PA, the roles are completely reversed. Obama has to play catch-up at that point. No matter what the national polls say.

If he loses PA and OH- it's over.

118 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:02am

re: #98 Capitalist Tool

...and when that runs out we can start on the Bulleitt and work up through the Booker's and maybe throw in a shot or 2 of some really old Pappy Van Winkle.

Just Basil for me.

119 hermit  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:05am

re: #106 spirochete

Drudge showing Hillary politicking inside a polling area, 5 feet from booths.

You don't suppose she would secretly like to throw it, maybe? Defeat him from the inside...?

120 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:24am

re: #96 bellamags

eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww. gross. now i need to go poke out my minds eye.

HAHAHHAHAHA

121 Thanos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:26am

We walked the dogs to the polling place, taking turns voting. There was an eagle in the schoolyard next door with a flock of crows around it, none daring to come near. The eagle flew off after it's breakfast, the crows investigated the spot, but nothing was left. I wish I'd had my camera but I don't normally take it when I walk the dogs.

122 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:29am

re: #107 cliffster

If the GOP wins PA, the roles are completely reversed. Obama has to play catch-up at that point. No matter what the national polls say.

I've been believing all along that PA will go red. This, of course, does not count in voter fraud, which I hear they are having a problem with in the Philly area today. Something about GOP election officials not being allowed in the polling area. Will have to look for the link.

123 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:32am

re: #107 cliffster

If the GOP wins PA, the roles are completely reversed. Obama has to play catch-up at that point. No matter what the national polls say.

Concur. If we win in the Keystone state, the smart money then is on us.

124 deathtotheswiss  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:44am

Don't blame me...I voted for McCain.

125 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:46am

re: #78 Sharmuta

Heh!

re: #117 Sharmuta

If he loses PA and OH- it's over.

Hey Sharm!
By 8:30 am we had 122 votes in my RED county.
Last election we had 50 votes in 10 hours!

126 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:50am

re: #106 spirochete

Drudge showing Hillary politicking inside a polling area, 5 feet from booths.

Probably passing "Hillary '12" bumper stickers.

127 spirochete  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:51am

re: #119 hermit

You don't suppose she would secretly like to throw it, maybe? Defeat him from the inside...?

I think Hillary will vote for McCain.

128 strikefo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:08am

here we go again...

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

Florida 2000 returning?

129 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:12am

re: #117 Sharmuta

If he loses PA and OH- it's over.

or VA...

130 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:15am

re: #115 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, the rally is going to be a interesting party. Those "haves" who were able to afford tickets on the inside and the "have nots" who weren't on the outside.

131 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:32am

I think his coal comments sunk him in PA and OH
Just mho

132 Researcher...MO  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:36am

re: #28 cg76

Similar here, got there right about 7:40, out by 8:10, maybe 15 people in line when I arrived, many more coming in when I left, and this is a county of only 19K, and there is more than one polling place! All ages too! (not much diversity herabouts though)

133 Spiritualized  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:37am

PUMA P.A.C. blog, the base is out, people!

RedStateGuy 11.04.08 at 8:25 am

We vote at a church in our community here in GA. I normally can just stop by on my way to work and vote, no problem. Usually no more than 20 cars in the lot. This morning both parking lots were full, people parking in a field, and parking all along the road. Sure glad I voted early!

My wife drove by the polling place in a neighboring community and she reports the same thing, overflowing parking lots and long lines running out the door.

I feel soooo pumped up to see that turnout! Looks like all my “bitter clinger” neighbors are showing up in mass!

134 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:49am

re: #59 CalBear84

I've always been a Conservative (voting the issues and employing reason), does that mean I've never had a heart (voting based upon emotions and feeeeelings)?

I can live with that. ;)

135 Thanos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:56am

Breaking: McCain doing campaign stops in CO and NM, he's not giving up.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

136 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:02am

re: #124 deathtotheswiss

Don't blame me...I voted for McCain.

I bought the "DON'T BLAME ME. I VOTED FOR BUSH" shirt years ago. I'm gonna' look for it.

137 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:09am

Free star-shaped donut for voters at any Krispy Kreme or small coffee at any Starbucks!

138 Eowyn2  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:09am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

That's funny because I received 2 polling calls on my Sprint mobile phone last month.

none on my alltel account

139 Pyrocles  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:20am

This obviously wasn't in Buffalo...

re: #22 gop_patriot

My son and brother were in a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant watching a football game on Saturday, when an Obama ad came on.

My son said the ENTIRE bar went completely silent- and there were still other games on other channels. Some drunk guy yelled out, "Well, get ready for higher taxes!". Nobody looked happy to see Obama. As soon as the ad was over everyone went back to enjoying themselves. LOL

140 ~BfromTX  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:48am

re: #65 Macker

After thinking about it I did notice a different mix of pole workers this time around. Usually have the retired as pole workers wearing red white and blue...this time seemed to be a younger crowd. If they are Dems...picked the wrong polling place to work...maybe that is why she was so shy...realizing this was not such a good idea in this "red" area. Not used to having voters who actually know about voting procedures.

141 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:50am

re: #102 Cap'n DOC

HE CAN'T DO THAT.

The legal bar is pretty low...something like 100 feet from the polling place. Which is probably interpreted as a polling machine. Although maybe if someone called him on it...?

142 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:51am

re: #117 Sharmuta

If he loses PA and OH- it's over.

And I think it will be hard for the Dems to bring a lawsuit since the Dems have been the ones blatantly cheating. I think it would open a huge can of worms for their side...

143 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:56am

re: #24 NC State of Mind

I just asked one of the three people here at work who have Obama shirts on who controls congress. She asked me what I meant. I said "Which party." She said Republicans. I explained to her the deal to her. She does not believe me.

Damn!

When I was a Parris Island, our DI explained that there are always 10% who just never get the word.

144 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:00am

For the rest of today, I will not look at any election news which isn't first filtered through/by the Lizard Army. If I don't see it here first -- screw it.

/sanity is at stake

145 n in wi  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:03am

re: #131 Typicalwhitey

I think his coal comments sunk him in PA and OH
Just mho

Murtha's mouth couldn't help thinks,either.

146 fish  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:07am

I just received word that my Moonbat, Kool Aid Drinking, Glassy Eyed, Follow the party Line, Liberal, Democrat sister in Ohio voted for McCain because "There is just something about Obama she doesnt like" There is always hope.

147 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:23am

re: #131 Typicalwhitey

I think his coal comments sunk him in PA and OH
Just mho

I'm counting on that, but Ohio has already had so much early votin that many won't have the chance to "change".

148 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:27am

re: #119 hermit

You don't suppose she would secretly like to throw it, maybe? Defeat him from the inside...?

Hillary is a PUMA.

149 joncelli  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:29am

re: #86 Macker

Ooooh yeah. And it's pretty horrifying.

150 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:48am

re: #51 Macker

Don't feel too devastated...my son disowned me five years ago.

I grew up on the Upper West Side. My mom doesn't understand where she went wrong.

151 uncle_monkey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:54am
152 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:04am

re: #125 Typicalwhitey

That's awesome, TW!

153 n in wi  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:12am

re: #145 n in wi

Murtha's mouth couldn't help thinks,either.

Thinks= things

154 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:19am

This election, no matter the outcome, has set race relations in this country back 20 years. Racism has been kinda in the shadows and not acknowledged by many people, I did not even realize the extent.
Voting for a candidate because of the color of his skin is a terrible and dangerous thing to do and many people are doing it without thinking of the consequences. It is anti-social behavior. Also, assuming someone is racist because they are not voting for a particular candidate is also dangerous and creates more racism.

155 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:22am

re: #127 spirochete

I think Hillary will vote for McCain.

I do too.

156 haiku  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:35am

I'm very worried and scared about the election results. I can't bear the the thought of an Obama Presidency. It would be a disaster for America and our ally Israel. Can anyone here think about any positive thing to come out of Obama being President?

157 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:35am

re: #144 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For the rest of today, I will not look at any election news which isn't first filtered through/by the Lizard Army. If I don't see it here first -- screw it.

/sanity is at stake

Welllllllll, add the PUMA blogs to that

158 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:38am

re: #145 n in wi

Murtha's mouth couldn't help thinks,either.

Now there is one SOB who I would love to see voted out on his fat pompous ass......

159 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:41am
160 DistantThunder  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:54am

re: #146 fish

I just received word that my Moonbat, Kool Aid Drinking, Glassy Eyed, Follow the party Line, Liberal, Democrat sister in Ohio voted for McCain because "There is just something about Obama she doesnt like" There is always hope.

Wow O Wow! Just a couple hundred thousand or so of those types in a few states - and then there's the PUMA's Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.............

161 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:58am

re: #146 fish

I just received word that my Moonbat, Kool Aid Drinking, Glassy Eyed, Follow the party Line, Liberal, Democrat sister in Ohio voted for McCain because "There is just something about Obama she doesnt like" There is always hope.

Time to bake her some cookies...

162 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:04am

re: #19 Charles

I'll be posting a lot of open discussion threads today to try to keep any one thread from getting too long and taxing our hamsters like Obama's going to tax the country.

Mmm, redistributive thread change. Each successful thread should be taxed of posters so that the lazy, incompetent threads also get a fair chance. Also, complaining about thread redistribution is racist.

163 Kincsem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:37am

I was 6th in line this morning at 5.45, 45 minutes before the polls open in Ohio. By the time the polling place finally opened (sometimes they are as much as 10 minutes late--slow moving volunteers...) the line must have been 100 deep. This is in a solidly middle class neighborhood inside the city of Cincinnati. The people in line were all ages and descriptions.

Inside, they were checking photo IDs and signatures against signatures on record, but the process was miserably slow.

I've been despairing over the nonsense out of the mouth of The (wildly untutored in economics) One, and decided that if he is witless enough to try and turn us all into kulaks freezing to death in the dark, we're just going to have to find ways of recalling and chucking out of office anyone who goes along with such madness. The One can harbor all manner of festering collectivist fantasies, but that doesn't mean the citizenry will passively accept his plans. O, no.

164 jorline  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:38am

How to win friends and influence people.

Chavez offers talks with "black man" in White House

Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee who would be the first black U.S. president if he wins Tuesday's election, said this year he would be open to dialogue with leaders like Chavez -- a remark that was seized on by Republicans as naive.

"We are not asking him to be a revolutionary, to be a socialist -- no," Chavez said at a political rally. We just want the black man who is about to be the U.S. president to have enough stature for the times the world is living through.

One socialist to another and Chavez says "O" doesn't have fight for change....peaceful revolutionary change!

*spit*

165 freedombilly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:42am

Just heard a soundbite of Obama at the polling place saying "I hope this works" as he cast his vote.

He is already preparing a Gore-esque strategy to incite the masses if he doesn't win. It was rigged!

And don't bring ACORN or Mickey Mouse into this. It doesn't fit the template.

166 yesandno  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:51am

re: #19 Charles

I'll be posting a lot of open discussion threads today to try to keep any one thread from getting too long and taxing our hamsters like Obama's going to tax the country.

LOL

167 n in wi  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:04am

re: #156 haiku

4 years of carter brought 8 years of reagan

168 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:11am
Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man's genetic lineage--the notion that a man's intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.

- Ayn Rand

169 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:12am

re: #149 joncelli

Ooooh yeah. And it's pretty horrifying.

Lew and Cindy and Hugo sitting in a tree..........

170 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:14am

re: #137 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Free star-shaped donut for voters at any Krispy Kreme or small coffee at any Starbucks!

LUNCH!

171 Last Mohican  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:15am

re: #108 Just_A_Grunt

I am not at all pleased with the new America that will emerge from this election cycle. We have, all at once and suddenly, absolutely lost the free press in America. I do not believe we'll get it back again.

A member of a racist hate group has won the presidential nomination of a major American political party (and will probably be president). That "O" logo with the stripes in it carries with it as much hatred and violence as a KKK hood, and I have to look at it on signs and T-shirts and buttons everywhere I go.

172 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:23am

re: #154 bellamags

This election, no matter the outcome, has set race relations in this country back 20 years. Racism has been kinda in the shadows and not acknowledged by many people, I did not even realize the extent.
Voting for a candidate because of the color of his skin is a terrible and dangerous thing to do and many people are doing it without thinking of the consequences. It is anti-social behavior. Also, assuming someone is racist because they are not voting for a particular candidate is also dangerous and creates more racism.

I agree with this - but there is also one additional point regarding racism that has become far more widely apparent this cycle - that racism against whites by blacks is something that exists and can often be more violent and virulent than the inverse.

173 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:26am

re: #158 Athos

Now there is one SOB who I would love to see voted out on his fat pompous ass......

Fat Little Bastard that he is!

174 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:35am

re: #139 Pyrocles

This obviously wasn't in Buffalo...

Nope, Memphis. :)

175 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:37am

At the end of his broadcast this morning, Glenn Beck advised that everyone invest in a good shortwave radio. He started off like he was more whacked out than usual, i.e. don't let cookies influence your vote, especially chocolate chip cookies.

176 yma o hyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:44am

re: #117 Sharmuta

If he loses PA and OH- it's over.

At what time will that be known - roughly?

177 NelsFree  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:51am

re: #122 PAgirlinNC

RON PAU- oumph!
duck tape applied

Hey, PA Girl, you in Charlotte, Raleigh, or Other, NC?

178 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:58am

Does the Fox network use Fox News Channel for election night coverage? Anyone know?

179 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:10am

re: #143 unreconstructed rebel

When I was a Parris Island, our DI explained that there are always 10% who just never get the word.

Same message in MCRD San Diego. 10% will be truly exceptional, 80% will be honest hard working average guys, 10% will be fucking idiots who couldn't find their ass with both hands and written directions.

180 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:13am

re: #103 Macker

Good thing I'm using the BSG euphemism, eh.

(Said in best Admiral Adama voice)

Get out and vote, because sometimes, you've got to roll a hard six!

SO SAY WE ALL!

181 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:14am

re: #165 freedombilly

Just heard a soundbite of Obama at the polling place saying "I hope this works" as he cast his vote.

He is already preparing a Gore-esque strategy to incite the masses if he doesn't win. It was rigged!

And don't bring ACORN or Mickey Mouse into this. It doesn't fit the template.

If that happens, I hope the Cops bust their heads!

182 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:16am

re: #87 PAgirlinNC

I haven't decided what I am going to do at 2:00am when the bar is closed. If Obama wins, I think I will take myself home and drink until the sun comes up, call off work and continue drinking. If McCain wins, I really want to drink to celebrate but God knows I want to come to work tomorrow to see and hear all of the freakin' people here cry and moan that they "had another election stolen!"

Bourbon for Obama, champagne for McCain.

183 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:20am

re: #167 n in wi

4 years of carter brought 8 years of reagan

That is a good point. Although we've got a somewhat different set of circumstances now -- I'm not sure the country can bear the pain of another Carter, right now. We're in bad shape.

And frankly I wonder if we haven't gotten stupider, since then.

184 deathtotheswiss  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:20am

re: #136 MandyManners

I bought the "DON'T BLAME ME. I VOTED FOR BUSH" shirt years ago. I'm gonna' look for it.

Bush Sr?

I think I'll wait on buying the McCain shirt...there's still hope.

185 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:22am

re: #121 Thanos

We walked the dogs to the polling place, taking turns voting. There was an eagle in the schoolyard next door with a flock of crows around it, none daring to come near. The eagle flew off after it's breakfast, the crows investigated the spot, but nothing was left. I wish I'd had my camera but I don't normally take it when I walk the dogs.

Sounds like the relationship the U.S. has with the U.N.

186 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:33am

re: #156 haiku

COURAGE!

187 greenmiler  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:35am

I just voted and think I saw a PUMA. Middle aged woman with a Clinton/Gore button. Can't think of any reason to have that as her only button

188 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:00am

re: #161 Capitalist Tool

Time to bake her some cookies...

By the description, sounds like Alice B. Toklas brownies, not cookies.

189 summergurl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:04am

Black Panthers in Philly blocking the doorway of a polling place.

Lovely--

On FOX now

portends of what is to come if the One loses

190 soccerdad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:09am

re: #38 oh_dude

Polling place update: Irvine, CA

Something odd going on this year. I've been polling at the same little neighborhood spot for the past five years and I have to tell you that I've never seen a turn-out like this. I go to my polling place just about the same time every year. First I vote, then it's off to the office.

Every year until just now, I've pulled up easily found a parking spot right in front of the polling place, checked in and voted in less than 15 minutes. No more than two or three other people there voting.

This year, there is no parking and the line to vote is easily out the door with at least 20 people in line. Pretty crazy for our little neighborhood polling place.

The way I see it, someone is going to lose and lose big.

Ditto for Westtown PA (West Chester, PA area)

191 n in wi  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:09am

re: #158 Athos
Then charged with sedition or defamation or any thing that will stick

192 looking closely  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:10am

re: #47 Jetpilot1101

The market will crash if Obama is elected. Most people will sell stocks to avoid paying 50% capital gains taxes. It's going to get worse folks, much worse. I don't know why Wall Street is up today except that maybe they think McCain will win.

I think the "worst case" scenario has probably been mostly priced in.

A McCain win should spark a rally, but I think even an Obama win will cause a *small* (though likely temporary) spike just by removing uncertainty.

193 SurferDoc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:12am

I will not watch those sonsobitches on TV today.

Until after we win.

194 Ben Hur  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:20am

Voters should have to dip their fingers in ink after they vote.

195 Muadib  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:23am

I'm heading out to vote for McCain/Palin. Freedom beats the hell out of Marxism.

196 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:25am

re: #176 yma o hyd

At what time will that be known - roughly?

I'm surprised they haven't tried calling it for 0bama already.

197 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:37am

re: #178 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Fox TV network will be hosted tonight by Shep Smith - and use a lot of the FNC stuff while Brit Hume will be hosting his last national election on FNC.

198 pbird  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:49am

re: #16 hermit

I hope everyone remembers to chip in for hamster kibble!

And for the little sandals with good gummy soles for traction!

199 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:57am

What's the over/under on how many senile democrats will vote for Pat Buchanan (again)?

200 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:07am

I was disappointed to read Evan Coyne Maloney saying he voted for Barr. He has the right, but he seems to think that since NY will go for the dem every time, it doesn't matter who he votes for. I disagree. I do think each vote matters.

Even if Obama wins, it will be a good poke at the congress to keep him in check if it's close enough.

201 rightsideup  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:27am

I voted earlier this morning - no lines, walked right up to get checked off and get a ballot. After filling out the ballot and before inserting it into the box, I had to 'check out'. The whole thing took about seven minutes. This is in southern NH.

Also, earlier I had volunteered to be a 'challenger' at a polling place in a neighboring town. I was given a notebook of voters whose last names were in a certain range of the alphabet and who were registered as Republicans. As they checked in, I checked them off. At some point today the party will be calling those who haven't voted yet. The guy sitting next to me was my counterpart for the other party, his book had everyone's name in it and looked better organized. He was checking off more names than I was :-(. Those of us who were Republican Party volunteers were dwarfed by the number of the other party volunteers.

202 yma o hyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:32am

re: #135 Thanos

Breaking: McCain doing campaign stops in CO and NM, he's not giving up.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

They announced on the Beeb breakfast Tv this morning that McCain would go on campaigning.
I hope this shows all the eeyores - he's not giving up, so don't you dare give up!

What a hero!

203 jorline  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:35am

Don't vote...don't bitch!

204 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:37am

re: #183 Cognito

And frankly I wonder if we haven't gotten stupider, since then.

And thank the MSM for their role in assisting that.......

205 Dianna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:37am

Good morning!

Riding in this morning, my MUNI train passed a polling place. The line stretched down most of the block. One fellow was waiting, with his dog beside him - a very handsome dog, fluffy and shiny and well behaved.

I laughed and remarked to the lady beside me, "I guess the dog's going to vote, too."

Aside from that, I lost my glasses last night, and am waiting for my eye appointment. Currently, I feel like I should be tapping around with a white cane.

206 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:38am

re: #163 Kincsem


...Inside, they were checking photo IDs and signatures against signatures on record, but the process was miserably slow...


That's really good news considering all the reports of ACORN skullduggery in Ohio.

207 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:43am

re: #174 gop_patriot

Nope, Memphis. :)

Near Germantown or Cordova?

208 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:57am

re: #180 Intrepid

SO SAY WE ALL!

209 bosforus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:59am

re: #82 kynna

My husband is hoping to get off work in time to vote. Everything's been kind of crazy here and I just didn't think about him potentially having trouble getting to the polls the day of. He should have voted early.

I went to bed praying and I woke up praying. Whatever happens today, we are going to need a lot of help.

If an employee does not have three free hours during election hours ('free hours' meaning hours he's not at work) the employer by law must allow up to two paid hours for your husband to vote. That's what I read in my voting pamphlet. Of course, it also says, prior arrangements for that time off should be made in advance with the employer. You might want to check that out.

210 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:12am

Just got back from voting Straight Republican. Took 1 1/2 hours to vote. usually takes 45 minutes. KY is going for McCain, but I can claim a victory. My nieghbor was for The Zero until I showed her a bunch of videos. She hadn't even heard of Joe the Plummer. She voted McCain.
She and her husband (McCain supporter and the one that told me she was for the 0) took me to the polls. We had a blast.

211 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:15am

re: #189 summergurl

Black Panthers in Philly blocking the doorway of a polling place.

Lovely--

On FOX now

portends of what is to come if the One loses

Tase 'em.

212 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:19am

re: #184 deathtotheswiss

Bush Sr?

I think I'll wait on buying the McCain shirt...there's still hope.

Yep. Senior.

213 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:20am

My polling place was not too busy, but it's a working class neighborhood, and I think it will pick up around 3 this afternoon. But what was nice is they had a lot of chairs out for seniors to sit if they needed to.

214 guzziguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:21am

Voted shortly after 7:00 A.M. this morning CST. I had a 40 minute wait. This is the first time I've ever waited for more than 5 minutes. Good sign. Of course, I live in the reddest of the red states.

215 vxbush  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:24am

Gah--the hamsters are doing a better job of keeping up than I am. Of course, I haven't started the IV drip yet, although some around here seem to be a little spacey. :D

Gotta go run an errand, though. I already voted, so this should be interesting. I'll get to see at least one polling place, if not two.

216 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:31am

re: #179 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Same message in MCRD San Diego. 10% will be truly exceptional, 80% will be honest hard working average guys, 10% will be fucking idiots who couldn't find their ass with both hands and written directions.

Were you also told that UNKs (unqualified) were useful? Especially if you need to cross a mine-field in a hurray?

217 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:40am

re: #183 Cognito

That is a good point. Although we've got a somewhat different set of circumstances now -- I'm not sure the country can bear the pain of another Carter, right now. We're in bad shape.

And frankly I wonder if we haven't gotten stupider, since then.

If Obama steers hard left as it seems he wants the '10 mid-terms backlash will be a thing to behold. If he plays it pragmatically and steers more center it will be Carteresque.

218 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:55am

re: #192 looking closely

I think the "worst case" scenario has probably been mostly priced in.

A McCain win should spark a rally, but I think even an Obama win will cause a *small* (though likely temporary) spike just by removing uncertainty.

I appreciate your optimism and I'd like to join you but I don't think it has been priced in. The treasury now has to borrow 500 billion dollars to pay for this bailout and Europe is heading down the toilet. All the government has done is put a bandaid over a gushing wound. When Obama raises the capital gains taxes, people will leave stocks in droves. In addition, no one will have any money to invest when Obama raises all or taxes.

219 n in wi  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:01am

Keith Olberman just called it for Obama
Plus 65 seats in the senate

220 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:05am

re: #203 jorline

Don't vote...don't bitch!

WORD.

221 Dianna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:20am

re: #167 n in wi

I regard that as an over-optimistic view and a poor analogy.

222 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:26am

re: #172 Athos

I agree with this - but there is also one additional point regarding racism that has become far more widely apparent this cycle - that racism against whites by blacks is something that exists and can often be more violent and virulent than the inverse.

I wanted to say that but I didn't want to be a RACIST./ : )

223 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:29am

re: #188 OldLineTexan

By the description, sounds like Alice B. Toklas brownies, not cookies.

Works for me.

224 markx  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:33am
Now Online: 5,557
Logged in: 520


Faster, hampsters, faster.

225 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:49am

re: #156 haiku

I'm very worried and scared about the election results. I can't bear the the thought of an Obama Presidency. It would be a disaster for America and our ally Israel. Can anyone here think about any positive thing to come out of Obama being President?

Well, there could be... no... there's always the posibility that... hrmm, no again... he just might...

Nope, can't think of a thing.

MCCAIN/PALIN, GO GO GO!

226 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:54am

re: #140 ~BfromTX

re: #65 Macker

After thinking about it I did notice a different mix of pole workers this time around. Usually have the retired as pole workers wearing red white and blue...this time seemed to be a younger crowd. If they are Dems...picked the wrong polling place to work...maybe that is why she was so shy...realizing this was not such a good idea in this "red" area. Not used to having voters who actually know about voting procedures.

That's a mighty interesting voting location you have there? Pole workers? Are lap dances included?

/heh

227 jorline  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:56am

Rush just said that it took Obama 15 minutes to vote...he couldn't find the box marked present! lmao

228 Lee Coller  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:58am

re: #200 kynna

I was disappointed to read Evan Coyne Maloney saying he voted for Barr. He has the right, but he seems to think that since NY will go for the dem every time, it doesn't matter who he votes for. I disagree. I do think each vote matters.

Even if Obama wins, it will be a good poke at the congress to keep him in check if it's close enough.

Barr's a nutcase. And anyone voting for a third party candidate in the presidential election is throwing away their vote.

229 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:01am

re: #197 Athos

Fox TV network will be hosted tonight by Shep Smith - and use a lot of the FNC stuff while Brit Hume will be hosting his last national election on FNC.

Crud. Thanks. I think.

230 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:11am

re: #205 Dianna

Good morning!

Riding in this morning, my MUNI train passed a polling place. The line stretched down most of the block. One fellow was waiting, with his dog beside him - a very handsome dog, fluffy and shiny and well behaved.

I laughed and remarked to the lady beside me, "I guess the dog's going to vote, too."

Aside from that, I lost my glasses last night, and am waiting for my eye appointment. Currently, I feel like I should be tapping around with a white cane.

I hate that! I once had a cat who would steal my glasses. My Yorkie does it now.

231 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:15am

re: #214 guzziguy

Voted shortly after 7:00 A.M. this morning CST. I had a 40 minute wait. This is the first time I've ever waited for more than 5 minutes. Good sign. Of course, I live in the reddest of the red states.

Interesting- because i"m in a blue state. Maybe it's a good thing there were no lines at my polling place, though I did hear of lines elsewhere in the city.

232 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:17am

I spent all last week at my Dad's house, biting my tongue and dodging comments from my stepmother about how awful are Republicans, Palin, McCain, etc. Left yesterday morning, had a three hour layover in Nashville. Someone called my name (I'd never been to Nashville before.) It was my stepmother's cousin, coincidentally on all the same flights back to the same area in NM as me. She was carrying a purse with a leather applique of Obama on it. We would spend the next 10 hours together. I tried biting my tongue some more, but after the first hour, when she asked me who I supported in the primary (with the unspoken assumption that it was either Obama or Clinton) I said "Giuliani." She paused, took a breath, and said, "You're not for Obama, then." I shook my head. The conversation pretty much stayed off of politics after that, with only a few snipes on her part. Her husband picked us up in El Paso for the 3 hour drive back to our area. Besides his Obama bumper stickers, he had one that said something about mandatory lobotomies for Republicans. I bit my tongue some more. I'm lucky they didn't dump me in a field somewhere, beacause they knew I hadn't voted yet. (I did it this morning.)

It is indeed good to be back in lizard land.

What's good for a battered and bleeding tongue?

233 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:42am

re: #177 NelsFree

Durham - right on the edge of RTP.

234 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:46am

re: #199 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Heard one report already of problems in Palm Beach County, FL where many ballots cast are being rejected as undervotes since the seniors didn't complete the full ballot (with the propositions). Of course, the issue is with the Democrat leadership who decided that undervotes are reasons to reject. Undervotes shouldn't be a reason to reject - just a case where someone might have voted for two candidates when only one should have been selected. (The kerfuffle in 2000 was very much the fault of the idiots in charge of those counties - but that data seems to get lost in the telling of the story....)

235 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:47am

Ignore the exit polls!
Vote McCain/Palin!

I'm still optimistic!

236 Roark  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:59am

re: #47 Jetpilot1101

and to #55.

market is up over last five days coming into the election on relief it will all be over soon. regardless of who wins we should pull back some going into the weekend. If McCain can win the election then a sustained rally will carry us into the spring, but we still have big economic problems to face.

If Obama wins, and I think that was looking more and more likely a month ago than it is now, the selling related to his tax policy has already happened.

237 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:02am

re: #229 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Watch Fox Business. Neil Cavuto is hosting that and it should be much better than Britt Hume's bloviating.

238 guzziguy[deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:08am
239 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:12am

re: #204 Athos

And thank the MSM for their role in assisting that.......

It's a two-way street. Yeah, the television media has served decades of pablum. But that's because the people were demanding it -- ratings aren't rocket science.

The media has shamed itself, no doubt. But so have its consumers. I still believe in personal responsibility.

240 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:26am

re: #219 n in wi

Keith Olberman just called it for Obama
Plus 65 seats in the senate

I thought wanking on-air was prohibited by the FCC?

241 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:31am

re: #219 n in wi

Keith Olberman just called it for Obama
Plus 65 seats in the senate

Fucking moron.

242 nikis-knight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:36am

I voted this morning since by the time I get off work in CA, they are usually calling the national races and I don't want that to discourage me.
My strategy for propositions that I'm not familiar with is to vote no if they have the words bond, tax, or regulate in them, even if they are for children, hospitals, or furry animals. I figure that there are enough people who reflexively vote yes when they see the word school that I need to cancel out some of that thoughtlessness.
As for judges or local elections with only people I am unfamiliar with, I leave it blank.

People say our duty is to vote. It is not. Our duty is to see that the most qualified people are holding public office, which means if you haven't gotten informed on that race, it is irresponsible to vote anyway, imo.

243 hermit  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:36am

re: #198 pbird

makes me think of the Road Runner episode where the coyote gives the Super High Speed pill to the little mouse....
Don't forget - high tech kibble and proper footwear are critical to hamster survival!

244 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:43am

re: #193 SurferDoc

did you decide on your accessories for today, Doc?

245 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:43am

re: #207 MandyManners

Near Germantown or Cordova?

Cordova. The signs out there and in Germantown were running 50-1 for McCain/Palin. Last election the signs were much more evenly divided, if I recall correctly.

::prays::

246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:45am

Rush talking about the PUMA's lying to the pollsters, saying they voted for Obama.

247 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:16am

re: #232 wrenchwench

What's good for a battered and bleeding tongue?

Booze.

248 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:23am

re: #219 n in wi

Keith Olberman just called it for Obama
Plus 65 seats in the senate

You were actually listening to Keith Olberman?

Oh, I get it... comic relief.

249 devil in baggy pants  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:28am

re: #219 n in wi

Keith Olberman just called it for Obama
Plus 65 seats in the senate


Olberdouche can kiss my ass.

250 markx  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:31am

re: #240 jcm

I thought wanking on-air was prohibited by the FCC?


Bwahahaha... ROF...

GOOD ONE.

251 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:41am

re: #216 unreconstructed rebel

Were you also told that UNKs (unqualified) were useful? Especially if you need to cross a mine-field in a hurray?

We were told they could be used as field expedient sand bags.

252 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:43am

D@mn Lizards! I forgot to eat breakfast.

bbiab

253 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:00am

re: #217 jcm

If Obama steers hard left as it seems he wants the '10 mid-terms backlash will be a thing to behold. If he plays it pragmatically and steers more center it will be Carteresque.

I'm afraid he'll ride a big, big wave of emotion -- neatly dodging hard decisions -- straight through the mid-terms. And then we're staring down the barrel of a super majority.

254 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:03am

I just got home from voting! There was a tiny bit of a hiccup where they thought I had already voted with a mail-in ballot, but they looked a bit closer at their papers and figured out I hadn't.

255 Cognito[deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:16am
256 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:26am

re: #239 Cognito

The media has shamed itself, no doubt. But so have its consumers. I still believe in personal responsibility.

OH! So it's our fault?! Fuck you.

257 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:27am

re: #209 bosforus

If an employee does not have three free hours during election hours ('free hours' meaning hours he's not at work) the employer by law must allow up to two paid hours for your husband to vote. That's what I read in my voting pamphlet. Of course, it also says, prior arrangements for that time off should be made in advance with the employer. You might want to check that out.

Well, supposedly they're going to get off at 4pm. It's the entertainment industry though and you can't count on things not running over. Add to that the ridiculous traffic from there to here.

We screwed up. But I'm pretty sure he'll get back in time.

258 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:36am

re: #232 wrenchwench

I spent all last week at my Dad's house, biting my tongue and dodging comments from my stepmother about how awful are Republicans, Palin, McCain, etc. Left yesterday morning, had a three hour layover in Nashville. Someone called my name (I'd never been to Nashville before.) It was my stepmother's cousin, coincidentally on all the same flights back to the same area in NM as me. She was carrying a purse with a leather applique of Obama on it. We would spend the next 10 hours together. I tried biting my tongue some more, but after the first hour, when she asked me who I supported in the primary (with the unspoken assumption that it was either Obama or Clinton) I said "Giuliani." She paused, took a breath, and said, "You're not for Obama, then." I shook my head. The conversation pretty much stayed off of politics after that, with only a few snipes on her part. Her husband picked us up in El Paso for the 3 hour drive back to our area. Besides his Obama bumper stickers, he had one that said something about mandatory lobotomies for Republicans. I bit my tongue some more. I'm lucky they didn't dump me in a field somewhere, beacause they knew I hadn't voted yet. (I did it this morning.)

It is indeed good to be back in lizard land.

What's good for a battered and bleeding tongue?

One cure.

259 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:43am

Just voted.

The lines were longer than I've ever seen them before, a lot longer.

I got in line at 7:15am and didn't cast my ballot until 8:40am.

While we were all standing in the queue, which ran down a busy street, a number of cars driving past pressed on the horn and raised their fists out the window in solidarity.

260 Last Mohican  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:50am

re: #154 bellamags

This election, no matter the outcome, has set race relations in this country back 20 years.

I'd say it's worse than that. This is a point I feel strongly about. It's not only that people are voting for a candidate solely because of his race, which is a bad thing. It's because Obama's response to criticism has been to dismiss it by claiming that his accusers are necessarily racist. It's a pernicious tactic that not only implies that black people are not required to form cogent, consistent arguments, but subtly implies that they are not capable of doing so. Worst of all, Obama's approach to dealing with the Reverend Wright controversy was to state that he "cannot disown" Wright, because Wright's insane, hateful ranting is inextricably part of the black experience -- that all black people think this way, and they can't help doing so. If I were a black person I would be incredibly insulted by that.

261 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:55am

re: #247 Sharmuta

Booze.

Heh. I close the shop in 8 hours. There's wine at home. Thanks for the advice!

262 Throbert McGee  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:01am

May I suggest that Charles post a top-of-the page reminder to people that they should not wear anything with an even remotely partisan statement -- not a T-shirt, not a button, not a baseball cap -- within the immediate vicinity of a polling place? There's no sense in giving Obots an excuse to complain that voters were "intimidated" because someone standing next to them in line had a McCain/Palin '08 lapel pin.

263 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:07am

re: #253 Cognito

I'm afraid he'll ride a big, big wave of emotion -- neatly dodging hard decisions -- straight through the mid-terms. And then we're staring down the barrel of a super majority.

That's you Steven King?
*shiver*

264 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:08am

re: #229 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Crud. Thanks. I think.

That's why I'm watching FNC......there are just a few people on FNC (talent or paid 'advisors') that will get me to change the channel by just appearing....Skeletor and Smith are the two leaders on the 'talent' side. Hell, I can take Beckel and Williams more than I can take those other clowns.

265 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:09am

re: #237 Jetpilot1101

Watch Fox Business. Neil Cavuto is hosting that and it should be much better than Britt Hume's bloviating.

Don't have cable, JP. I watch Monday Night Football on ESPN from a European website.

266 summergurl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:10am

re: #219 n in wi

Keith Olberman just called it for Obama
Plus 65 seats in the senate


He's such a dweeb- like anyone listens to that windbag

267 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:21am

re: #246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rush talking about the PUMA's lying to the pollsters, saying they voted for Obama.

Y'know, I wouldn't put it past 'em, after the way the Obama camp screwed them in the caucuses. Serving up revenge cold, very cold.

268 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:23am

Just got off the phone with my sister in Reading (pronounced 'Red-ing'), PA. She hadn't voted yet but will today. I was able to get her to take a good look at voting for Obama, and what that might mean with the coal story and and explaining the impact of his tax policies. I was also able to defuse her concern about McCain and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). I reminded her about Sarah Palin and her son, and got her to see that if McCain wins, the ADA will have someone who understands its importance in the administration. I don't know if I did enough (she does not say who she votes for), but I at least moved our chances of getting her vote in the right direction.

269 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:24am

re: #256 Sharmuta

OH! So it's our fault?! Fuck you.

Read the whole post, Sharmuta. Relax.

270 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:31am

re: #236 Roark

The selling hasn't already happened. The previous selling was people getting out because the economy was headed off a cliff. The rally has been huge bottom feeders making a killing and suckering in retail investors. The bottom feeders will bail and the market will tank leaving retail guys holding the bag. Folks, the big boys control the market and they have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders. They need to preserve wealth and in the next few months, we're going to see them do just that especially if retail fund holders begin bailing due to tax implications.

271 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:40am

re: #249 devil in baggy pants

Olberdouche can kiss my ass.

HOW DARE YOU SIR? WHAT WOULD MISS PRECIOUS PERFECT SAY? THE ONLY DECENT THING YOU CAN DO IS RESIGN NOW!

/

272 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:45am

re: #245 gop_patriot

Cordova. The signs out there and in Germantown were running 50-1 for McCain/Palin. Last election the signs were much more evenly divided, if I recall correctly.

::prays::

What's it like as one goes further into the city?

273 Rima  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:53am

I am wearing all black today, in recognition of the likely election results. Will probably be wearing for the next years. But I hope not.

274 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:15am

re: #269 Cognito

GFY

275 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:16am

(BTW, my first vote evah! I'm so excited!)

276 RightMinded  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:20am

Just wanted to chime in and say "Thanks" to Charles for this site! Without LGF and Hillbuzz (thanks to Sharmuta), I really could not have kept my sanity the last few months!

277 yesandno  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:27am

re: #232 wrenchwench

I spent all last week at my Dad's house, biting my tongue and dodging comments from my stepmother about how awful are Republicans, Palin, McCain, etc. Left yesterday morning, had a three hour layover in Nashville. Someone called my name (I'd never been to Nashville before.) It was my stepmother's cousin, coincidentally on all the same flights back to the same area in NM as me. She was carrying a purse with a leather applique of Obama on it. We would spend the next 10 hours together. I tried biting my tongue some more, but after the first hour, when she asked me who I supported in the primary (with the unspoken assumption that it was either Obama or Clinton) I said "Giuliani." She paused, took a breath, and said, "You're not for Obama, then." I shook my head. The conversation pretty much stayed off of politics after that, with only a few snipes on her part. Her husband picked us up in El Paso for the 3 hour drive back to our area. Besides his Obama bumper stickers, he had one that said something about mandatory lobotomies for Republicans. I bit my tongue some more. I'm lucky they didn't dump me in a field somewhere, beacause they knew I hadn't voted yet. (I did it this morning.)

It is indeed good to be back in lizard land.

What's good for a battered and bleeding tongue?


VICTORY

278 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:41am

re: #274 Sharmuta

GFY

Take it easy.

279 Thanos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:45am

re: #252 ggt

D@mn Lizards! I forgot to eat breakfast.

bbiab

Wow! Great Idea, thanks for the reminder, I was wondering why my tummy was growling.

280 Eowyn2  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:47am

re: #67 Typicalwhitey

Food for thought from the kos website:


I'd volunteer but, uh, um, uh, isnt that one of those counties full of gun clinging folks.

281 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:50am

re: #256 Sharmuta

OH! So it's our fault?! Fuck you.

Calm down, dear!

282 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:56am

re: #219 n in wi

Keith Olberman just called it for Obama
Plus 65 seats in the senate

Whose name was he calling out in ecstasy? Was he pitching or catching? Inquiring Minds Want To Know!

283 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:14am

re: #278 Cognito

Don't tell me what to do, asshole.

284 shivas  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:24am

Polls opened today at 8:00 am in Nebraska. I got to my polling place in an Omaha suburb at 8:05 and there was a line almost out the building. I was the 45th voter of the day, and proudly cast my vote McCain/Palin, and a straight republican ticket.

By the way, I am by no means a rich Republican. The wife and I combined make less than $50K/yr--try raising almost grown children and a grandchild on that! We have seven kids combined between the ages of 16 and 23, and the oldest one and her son are back living with us.

McCain/Palin all the way!

285 Lively  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:27am

re: #242 nikis-knight

My strategy for propositions that I'm not familiar with is to vote no if they have the words bond, tax, or regulate in them, even if they are for children, hospitals, or furry animals. I figure that there are enough people who reflexively vote yes when they see the word school that I need to cancel out some of that thoughtlessness.
As for judges or local elections with only people I am unfamiliar with, I leave it blank.

People say our duty is to vote. It is not. Our duty is to see that the most qualified people are holding public office, which means if you haven't gotten informed on that race, it is irresponsible to vote anyway, imo.

I also vote no on anything that smells like a tax or looks like it will cost money. We question that wanted to move our county seat. Buy more property and buildings? No way. Also wanted to raise sales tax (but only for 5 years!) for community colleges. No go on that either.

286 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:44am

re: #281 MandyManners

No- the msm goes off the rails, and media boy is blaming us.

287 OldLineTexan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:49am

re: #249 devil in baggy pants

Olberdouche can kiss my ass.

Not mine. I have an idea of where his mouth has been.

288 johngaltlives  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:58am

I always thought Cindy was really Lew in drag.

289 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:00am

re: #32 Charles

I should have known better than to visit Rockwell's hate site -- he's ranting about "Republicanism is dead" and "this is the price we pay for rejecting Ron Paul."

Since when did Ron Paul ever equate to what is Republicanism?

290 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:05am
291 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:06am

For those who need a little bit of encouragement to get out and vote, watch this!

We will not go quietly into the night, we will not vanish without a fight!

292 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:21am

re: #283 Sharmuta

Don't tell me what to do, asshole.

Come on. You tell me to go f--- myself.

I tell you hey, take it easy.

And I'm the one who's telling people what to do?

I know tensions are high right now, Sharmuta. But there's no need to pick fights.

293 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:23am

re: #269 Cognito

Read the whole post, Sharmuta. Relax.

I read it but, decided to keep my "FUCK YOU's" reserved for BHO, Olberman and the like.

294 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:25am
295 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:27am

Current stats:

Now Online: 5,541
Logged in: 520

296 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:33am

Cheezy movie quote, but an upding to whoever can ID it.

"I've never gone into a match thinking I was going to lose before."
"Then go and win."
"Win?"

297 fish  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:37am

re: #197 Athos

Fox TV network will be hosted tonight by Shep Smith - and use a lot of the FNC stuff while Brit Hume will be hosting his last national election on FNC.

I hadn't heard this. Is he retiring or changing jobs?

298 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:38am

re: #239 Cognito

But so have its consumers. I still believe in personal responsibility.

From the look at the financial, subscription, and ratings results of the vast majority of the MSM - the consumers are exercising their personal responsibility by ignoring them. Too bad the MSM can't exercise their own fiducial responsibilities that are entrusted to them in their special status and protections.

299 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:40am

re: #159 ggt

the setting of the rally in Grant Park.

Wow. And to think I'll be down there tonight to get some zombiesque footage of the moonbats.

300 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:44am

re: #135 Thanos

Breaking: McCain doing campaign stops in CO and NM, he's not giving up.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

There is no "quit" in that man. He represents some of our best traditions and I am proud to have voted for him.

301 Thanos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:47am

Here's a station that streams Rush, reg. req'd, you can pop it up in the background and turn off the TV.

302 albusteve  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:49am

normally I really want to be Charles Johnson (!?)...but today is a good day to just ride along and enjoy the view while he drives the bus eh?...

take a right up ahead there charles!...and thank you!

303 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:55am

re: #286 Sharmuta

No- the msm goes off the rails, and media boy is blaming us.

No, Sharmuta. I'm not.

304 ~BfromTX  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:57am

re: #226 lawhawk

Hahaha...I wish...they seemed about as dumb as a pole worker/dancer.

305 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:03am

re: #262 Throbert McGee

May I suggest that Charles post a top-of-the page reminder to people that they should not wear anything with an even remotely partisan statement -- not a T-shirt, not a button, not a baseball cap -- within the immediate vicinity of a polling place? There's no sense in giving Obots an excuse to complain that voters were "intimidated" because someone standing next to them in line had a McCain/Palin '08 lapel pin.

Someone the other day suggested wearing your Flag pin. I wore mine. I think I got the message across to the masses.

306 Eowyn2  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:09am

re: #131 Typicalwhitey

I think his coal comments sunk him in PA and OH
Just mho

if they got to the right people.

not everyone has seen the blogs but there are a lot of peoples emailing that back and forth.

307 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:15am

re: #286 Sharmuta

No- the msm goes off the rails, and media boy is blaming us.

I understand.

308 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:15am

re: #256 Sharmuta

OH! So it's our fault?! Fuck you.

If Obama loses, he'll blame us gun-totin', bible-thumpin' Racists!

309 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:27am

re: #297 fish

I hadn't heard this. Is he retiring or changing jobs?

Press Sec for Pres. McCain.

310 AceR  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:30am

re: #81 Silhouette

Thanks for this link....I just made a contribution.

Maybe others could do the same?

311 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:00am

re:156 haiku....Can anyone here think about any positive thing to come out of Obama being President?
your four year experiment with socialism would finally completely discredit leftist policies

312 Dianna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:13am

re: #230 MandyManners

I hate that! I once had a cat who would steal my glasses. My Yorkie does it now.

Yeah, well.

I could make my tale of loss funnier, but the truth is silly enough.

Some poor guy was trying to open his umbrella, which was stuck. It finally came unstuck just in time to brush my glasses off my face. I was in pursuit when an old lady managed to kick them down the storm drain.

I stood there and cried, "No! This isn't happening!"

313 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:19am

re: #235 newsjunkie_ky

Ignore the exit polls!
Vote McCain/Palin!

I'm still optimistic!

Exit polls, shmexit polls. Remember how wrong they were four years ago?

314 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:22am

re: #298 Athos

From the look at the financial, subscription, and ratings results of the vast majority of the MSM - the consumers are exercising their personal responsibility by ignoring them. Too bad the MSM can't exercise their own fiducial responsibilities that are entrusted to them in their special status and protections.

Sure. Bad ratings and canceled subscriptions are an acute punishment meted out by the market. There are other factors at work as well, but yep -- there's nothing more powerful than turning the channel or dropping the paper.

315 Researcher...MO  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:24am

re: #125 Typicalwhitey

Aren't you here in the Lake area? Morgan County voter here, there were already lines at 7:40 when I got there, and more pouring in!

316 LindaMarie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:31am

OT -

A newfound fungus living in rainforest trees makes biofuel more efficiently than any other known method, researchers say.
In fact, it's so good at turning plant matter into fuel that researchers say their discovery calls into question the whole theory of how crude oil was made by nature in the first place.
The fungus, which has been named Gliocladium roseum, stands out in the crowd.
The fungus grows inside the Ulmo tree in the Patagonian rainforest in South America. "When we examined the gas composition of G. roseum, we were totally surprised to learn that it was making a plethora of hydrocarbons and hydrocarbon derivatives," the stuff of diesel, Strobel said. The fuel it produces has been dubbed "myco-diesel."

There is hope !
link Your text to link...

317 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:41am

re: #227 jorline

Rush just said that it took Obama 15 minutes to vote...he couldn't find the box marked present! lmao

He stole that from me. I said that on an earlier thread and I want full credit.
/Get me that sumbeach Rush on the phone stat.

318 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:41am

re: #277 yesandno

VICTORY


I may have to deploy my sockie to vote twice on that one. Updings!

319 Roark  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:44am

re: #270 Jetpilot1101

this is wrong on so many levels i'm not sure where to begin.

i'll just leave it at this, i hope McCain wins.

320 gregg  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:55am

Ok, I'm heading out to vote. Someone remind me again, I'm suppose to vote for Al Franken or Norm Coleman?

/sarc

321 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:00am

re: #297 fish

I hadn't heard this. Is he retiring or changing jobs?

Retiring.

322 nikis-knight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:14am

re: #227 jorline

Rush just said that it took Obama 15 minutes to vote...he couldn't find the box marked present! lmao


I heard that Bill Ayers was inside voting, and Obama didn't want to be seen with him.
Honestly, that's what I heard from Mike Gallagher.

323 Throbert McGee  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:19am

re: #136 MandyManners

I bought the "DON'T BLAME ME. I VOTED FOR BUSH" shirt years ago. I'm gonna' look for it.

I have one of those Badge-A-Minit presses, and after the 2004 elections I wore a button reading I suck COCK but I voted for BUSH. Did not get me a lot of action in gay bars, I can tell you...

324 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:27am

re: #301 Thanos

Here's a station that streams Rush, reg. req'd, you can pop it up in the background and turn off the TV.

Or you can listen to Rush here, no registration required.

325 krycek  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:04am

I had to turn off Boortz this morning. He was a double-dyed Eeyore.

326 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:09am

re: #294 buzzsawmonkey

That was very "Steve Martiny" of you. LOL (from the Jerk)

327 JohnnyReb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:11am

re: #242 nikis-knight

I voted this morning since by the time I get off work in CA, they are usually calling the national races and I don't want that to discourage me.
My strategy for propositions that I'm not familiar with is to vote no if they have the words bond, tax, or regulate in them, even if they are for children, hospitals, or furry animals. I figure that there are enough people who reflexively vote yes when they see the word school that I need to cancel out some of that thoughtlessness.
As for judges or local elections with only people I am unfamiliar with, I leave it blank.

People say our duty is to vote. It is not. Our duty is to see that the most qualified people are holding public office, which means if you haven't gotten informed on that race, it is irresponsible to vote anyway, imo.

This can backfire also. Once on a vote for a new town hall here, the way it was worded, if you voted no, that meant the town hall would get built and bonds would be issued. It was a vaguely worded proposition to prevent the town from building a new town hall that was opposed by alot of people.

Upset the heck out of alot of people here.

328 joncelli  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:21am

re: #275 Fat Jolly Penguin

Good for you! And in a vital election too. My first vote was for the Gipper, and it made me happy.

329 summergurl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:29am

re: #297 fish

I hadn't heard this. Is he retiring or changing jobs?


He said this morning he was "semi" retiring. That's a shame because he was one of the last TV journalists out there that I trusted...

330 cblesz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:32am

re: #324 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Or you can listen to Rush here, no registration required.

What is Rush's take now?

331 opnion  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:39am

Downtown Chicago now getting all fired up for the Obama Rally.
Extra trains today to get the workers out of the Loop.
Seems clear to me that they think trouble is a real possibility.

332 Clutch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:50am

re: #241 MandyManners

Fucking moron.

Keef Old-man-douche can suck my [mmmmmmmmffffppphhhh] and choke. Hope his oversized head explodes when his Nubian dreamboat hits the rocks later tonight and sinks to the bottom. Bye-bye, Old-man-douche, the most miserable excuse for a human being ever!

333 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:53am

All right, tummy feels much better.

and I thought that funny feeling was due to the elections.

/well partly.

334 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:09am

re: #239 Cognito

It's a two-way street. Yeah, the television media has served decades of pablum. But that's because the people were demanding it -- ratings aren't rocket science.

The media has shamed itself, no doubt. But so have its consumers. I still believe in personal responsibility.

When there is an operative monopoly on what is presented and what isn't, what people want has no calculation.

And for you to say you believe in personal responsibility when you willfully disdain it repeatedly and constantly elsewhere is the height of arrogance from you.

Forget about blaming the consumer when all the media does is dish out crap, Mr. Media.

335 Eowyn2  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:21am

re: #256 Sharmuta

OH! So it's our fault?! Fuck you.

yes its our fault, if we weren't so wrapped up in politics and world events, the msm could move on to the really important stories of Paris, Branjolina, etc etc.

336 jorline  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:41am

re: #322 nikis-knight

I heard that Bill Ayers was inside voting, and Obama didn't want to be seen with him.
Honestly, that's what I heard from Mike Gallagher.

After voting for Obama Ayers kept looking for other candidates running under the Socialist Party.

337 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:03am

re: #272 MandyManners

What's it like as one goes further into the city?

Well, I didn't go into neighborhoods further into town, but I saw more McCain bumper stickers than Obama ones, and that was on 240 north between Germantown Rd. and downtown.

At Wolfchase Mall in Cordova, I saw three black people wearing Obama t-shirts, but the parking lot had WAY more McCain stickers on the cars.

I'd say that it's probably like you think; further east, McCain; further in town, Obama. But I was surprised, I thought I'd see solid Obama signs and stickers as far as the eye could see.

338 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:07am

re: #334 FurryOldGuyJeans

All right.

339 soccerdad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:28am

re: #146 fish

I just received word that my Moonbat, Kool Aid Drinking, Glassy Eyed, Follow the party Line, Liberal, Democrat sister in Ohio voted for McCain because "There is just something about Obama she doesnt like" There is always hope.


And THAT, lizards and lizardettes, is the EXACT phenomenon that I've been banking on for my predictions....since May....I've been calling it. McCain in an electoral landslide! Believe in the American Psyche.

Fish -- Thanks for sharing

340 rightsideup  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:41am

re: #254 Fat Jolly Penguin

The polling place I volunteered at hadn't reconciled their voter rolls with those who had voted absentee. I assume this will be done when they're counting the votes. Ahem.

341 Last Mohican  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:14am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

There is no "quit" in that man. He represents some of our best traditions and I am proud to have voted for him.

McCain did more than his share for this country thirty years ago. He's a hero to me, no matter what he does from now on, and if he ever enters a room that I'm sitting in, I shall always stand in honor and respect. But this time, he had plenty of "quit" in him. He refused to expose Obama for the danger that he is. He refused to protect America from Obama. He let his country down. That's my opinion.

342 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:26am

re: #311 mahatma coat

Can anyone here think about any positive thing to come out of Obama being President?

Well, for one thing, you will be forgiven for the racist sins of you forefathers....unless you voted for McCain, in which case you will not be forgiven.

And you'll be able to visit France without embarrassment.

343 jemima  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:03am

Yesterday Michael Medved had Nader on for quite a while. In the next hour people were emailing in a fury. "Why did you have Nader on?!" Medved explained that the choice would never be McCain or Nader in his opinion it would always be Nader or Barry. As a man who loves his country, he wanted to do everything he could to assure a McCain win. I was very glad I wasn't listening to Sean yesterday.

344 soccerdad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:07am

re: #195 Muadib


HEY great Nic -- DuneHead!

345 Eowyn2  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:26am

re: #313 Ward Cleaver

Exit polls, shmexit polls. Remember how wrong they were four years ago?

and four years before that.

346 LindaMarie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:30am

re: #262 Throbert McGee

May I suggest that Charles post a top-of-the page reminder to people that they should not wear anything with an even remotely partisan statement -- not a T-shirt, not a button, not a baseball cap -- within the immediate vicinity of a polling place? There's no sense in giving Obots an excuse to complain that voters were "intimidated" because someone standing next to them in line had a McCain/Palin '08 lapel pin.


And it is illegal - they could be not allowed to vote. All campaanong must be at least 100 feet (? or more?) awayd from the polling place.
They could go change and return.

347 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:16am

Good afternoon all! Just got back from voting, myself and our 2 daughters went to the polls together, and hubby just left to do the deed himself. I am setting up camp for the night in my home office, moved the microwave and coffee maker in from the kitchen, hijacked the granddaughters Halloween candy, stocked up on popcorn and put the pooches beds and feather pillows in here so they don't have to lie on the wood floor, since they will not leave my side unless it is to go up to bed. I have LGF on the computer, Rush on the radio and FOX on TV, and it is a straight shot to the bathroom. Did I forget anything?

348 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:18am

re: #299 Honorary Yooper


"You are a better man than me, Charlie Brown."

You wouldn't catch me within 40 miles of Grant Park tonite.

Good Luck, I look forward to your eyewitness report.

349 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:53am

re: #309 jcm

Press Sec for Pres. McCain.

I'd rather see Megyn Kelly in that role......

350 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:22am

re: #342 Ringo the Gringo
actually I didn't ask that question ,I was quoting haiku #156

351 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:31am

re: #308 Macker

Do you think he'll ever understand that gun-toting bible thumpers are the majority of the voters? Democracy and all that . . . .

352 albusteve  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:33am

re: #317 Just_A_Grunt

He stole that from me. I said that on an earlier thread and I want full credit.
/Get me that sumbeach Rush on the phone stat.

at lunch yesterday he asked if I knew any good BO voting jokes...jus sayin
/

353 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:44am

re: #331 opnion

Downtown Chicago now getting all fired up for the Obama Rally.
Extra trains today to get the workers out of the Loop.
Seems clear to me that they think trouble is a real possibility.

I think trouble is a very good possibility tonight. I'll be taking photographs outside the area, not within Grant Park. It'll be easier to make a dash for the train station that way.

354 Buck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:45am

re: #32 Charles

I should have known better than to visit Rockwell's hate site -- he's ranting about "Republicanism is dead" and "this is the price we pay for rejecting Ron Paul."

But we didn't reject Ron Paul. All the online polls show him 90% ahead for President...

355 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:02am

New thread, b-b-b-but there are only 350 comments in this one?

356 Dustoff-507  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:08am

JCM...........

Dino, dino, dino.. (-:

357 SurferDoc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:44am

re: #244 bellamags

did you decide on your accessories for today, Doc?

I went modest. Just the S&W M39 with a spare clip. Tomorrow is when I expect to need something heftier.

358 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:46am

I hope Illinois voters reject the Constitutional Convention for our state. It's another big issue here.

359 ErnieG  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:14am

re: #277 yesandno

VICTORY

"You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."

- - Winston Churchill

360 nikis-knight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:22am

re: #327 JohnnyReb

Oh, well, I do read them. heh

361 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:47am

ok, I gotta go for a while.

Enjoy the new thread without me and

KEEP THE FAITH.

362 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:14am

re: #358 ggt

I think the state constitution needs a refresher. According to Article 8,

SECTION 5. PENSION AND RETIREMENT RIGHTS
Membership in any pension or retirement system of the
State, any unit of local government or school district, or
any agency or instrumentality thereof, shall be an
enforceable contractual relationship, the benefits of which
shall not be diminished or impaired.

That's why the state's jacked with an estimated trillion in liabilities over the next 40 years...

363 LindaMarie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:21am

re: #332 Clutch


Wash your mouth out with soap - or your keyboard.
You sound very Dem Moonbat when you type that. Over the top and incoherent.

364 LonnyE  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:44am

re: #330 cblesz

What is Rush's take now?

Go vote...

365 bosforus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:49am

re: #257 kynna

Well, supposedly they're going to get off at 4pm. It's the entertainment industry though and you can't count on things not running over. Add to that the ridiculous traffic from there to here.

We screwed up. But I'm pretty sure he'll get back in time.

Ah, good luck to him!

366 Cognito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:43am

"Clear enough to need no tag, hopefully," that should have read.

367 calvin coolidge  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:56am

Like several others on here, I also want to thank Charles for this great website. I fell in love with LGF the same way an ACORN worker falls in love with a list of uninformed, ineligible, nonexistent voters.

368 JustAGal  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:16am

From a friend in southern Pennsylvania:

The signs tend to lead me to believe McCain in my immediate area and my old home town. I was counting them this weekend on my way to my in-laws. Only 2 Obama about 23 McCain so there is hope.

369 krisstingle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:20am

My dauhter just told me,Her two friends that are sisters voted for 0.

WHY because 0 would keep taxes low,McCain was going to tax health care.I shouldn't be speechless,BUT i am

370 New Hampshire Dad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:43:55am

HAS ANYONE ELSE SEEN/HEARD THIS? THE TRANSCRIPT WAS JUST PULLED FROM NATIONAL REVIEW ON-LINE VIA THE CORNER. GOOD GOD WE'RE BECOMING THIRD WORLD ALREADY...

From Fox earlier (rough transcript):

JANE SKINNER: breaking election news, we have reports of possible voter intimidation in some way — pennsylvania. republicans saying that two black panthers have been blocking the doorway of one polling locations. rick, what are the details on this? what are you hearing?

RICK LEVENTHAL: i do not even know where to begin, but we have reached a polling place in the city of philadelphia. one of the two black panthers who was allegedly blocking the door is standing right over here, with an accused us of intimidating voters because we were here with a camera and microphone. he did not answer questions, other people here have confirmed that another person in black panther attire was holding a night stick and apparently the concern was that they were intimidating people who were trying to go inside to vote. a republican poll observer actually called the police, the police were here and we miss them, they came and left. that person called the police is here. why don't you tell us — step down off the curb, if you do not mind. what is going on here?

CITIZEN: we got a phone call that there was intimidation going on. i walked up to the door, two gentlemen in black panther guard, one brandishing a nightstick, standing in front of the door. they closed ranks as i walked up. i am a veteran, that does not scare me. i went inside and found full- watchers, they said they had been here for an hour — i went inside and found poll-watchers, they said that they had said not to let people outside because black people are going to win no matter what. at that point, i spoke to him, we would not get into a fistfight, i said, and i called the police.

LEVENTHAL: the person with the nightstick was escorted away, which i just confirmed inside. but the implication is that you were telling me that the black panthers were there to intimidate white voters from coming to this location?

CITIZEN: anyone who is not going their way, i do not know. someone in front of a polling place with a nightstick, that is intimidating for all voters.

LEVENTHAL: this is the first time i have heard of black panthers being stationed outside of a polling place. the one gentleman who is still here, he is a poll-watcher?

CITIZEN: yes, and he can wear what he wants.

LEVENTHAL: the other person was not allowed to be there with a nice that?

CITIZEN: you cannot stand with a nightstick anywhere, that is a weapon. obviously, you cannot stand around with a weapon menacingly in your hand under any circumstances.

LEVENTHAL: that is situation, as far as we know it. we have heard of other incidents in the city, including voting machines breaking down. we heard of an incident not far from here where far — all three machines broke down. people did wait, most of them. lines have dissipated. i have not made it inside yet, we had a skirmish in front of the door. apparently there is voting going on as well. at this point, apparently anyone who wants to vote here can vote here.

SKINNER: i know that they do not have enough people to man ever falling site, but as far as you understand the police have come and gone. is anyone monitoring in case someone is still hanging around?

LEVENTHAL: well there are poll watchers still standing here, we’ve been to at least a half a dozen polls around here and I haven’t seen any police officers, they don’t want a police presence to intimidate some voters, they did escort one gentleman out of here

SKINNER: It’s true in some places they don’t want police on sight, plenty going on there for you

371 StudlyDoRight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:44:16am

Some notes from my small corner of upstate NY:

I'm on a team of engineers designing new products. We're used to being perceived as cold-hearted, breaking our decisions down into parameters and evaluating our choices solely on merits. I was pleased to hear that the entire team, even the token Democrat, say that they've chosen McCain.

I mentioned this in passing elsewhere but... In the last election I was the #21 voter in my polling place at 8:00AM. Today I was #57. I live in a working-class Republican neighborhood and I have some small hope that a huge upstate voter turnout could swamp New York City's vote. Oh, if only Hillary was on the ballot today...

The bigger excitement here was that the con-artists from IDT Energy came to town last night. They knocked on my door and wanted to "look at my energy bill to see if I was getting my tax credit". I somehow failed to find a bill for them to look at, and after they left (and I googled IDT Energy to remind myself of their name and habits) I called the cops. I wasn't sure the local police would be interested but they were. They said they'd already sent a car down our street once to look for the scammers.

372 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:46am

re: #193 SurferDoc

I will not watch those sonsobitches on TV today.

Until after we win.


same here, I will not look in on the looney bunch until after McCain is announced the winner. Then I will be watching non-stop and eating it up.

373 00buckshot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:21am

Whats going on here, MSLSD is driving me crazy!

374 AceR  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:44am

Just got back from voting for McCain in the blue state of Maryland (which, by the way would be a red state if it weren't for all the liberals in Baltimore, Montgomery and Prince Georges counties).

After I voted, I called my brother and had an interesting conversation with him. He is 54 and has 4 children in their 30's. They all live in Maryland. He says that every one of his kids voted for McCain today. One of his kids and her husband, were sitting on the fence as of Saturday, but he took the time to explain to them the wisdom of voting for McCain rather than Obama. They have 3 children. My brother said that if Obama wins, it will not only impact our generation of Boomers, but their generation and her children's generation.

They said they believed Obama wasn't going to raise their taxes, and that he was even going to give them a refund check. My brother explained the fallacies of Obama's campaign promises and how if Bush'es tax cut were allowed to expire, it would actually mean their taxes would go up. He also said that any refund they might get from an Obama administration would quickly evaporate when the Bush tax cuts expired. My brother also talked to them about "Joe the Plumber" and how Obama told him that it would be good to "spread the wealth".

A little object lesson in spreading the wealth was all it took.

My brother posed this scenario to them:

Suppose I am wealthy because I built up a business with my own sweat and blood. My business became so successful that I was able to employ 20 people so that they could support their own families. One day, when I die, all that wealth would be yours and your other brothers and sisters. But, because Obama says it isn't fair that my next door neighbor who has far less wealth than me, couldn't share in my wealth, Obama would ensure that I would be taxed at a higher rate so my wealth today would be spread around to others through increased taxes, to those who didn't earn it, so that it would be considered "fair". Would you be happy about that? Would that be fair? I would be less wealthy, and if I should die, I could not pass along that extra wealth to you and your family.

They saw the problem immediately.

So, after investing about an hour of discussion with his daughter and her husband, they voted this morning for McCain.

It was a grand slam for our family---100% of us going for McCain in the blue state of Maryland.

375 Empire1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:47am

I'm glad to be here with my fellow optimistic Lizards! Mr. Empire is a political pessimist, to the point where he makes Eeyores look positively cheery, and I don't need that kind of downer today.

Go Palin/McCain!

376 cg76  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:35am

I feel like I did my part this year, donated a couple hundred to the McCain/Palin campaign, got my lifelong Southern Democrat mom converted to the Republican party and my non-voting husband to register as an Independent. All of us voting for McCain today. Since I'm done voting I'll be spending the rest of the day enjoying time with my now seven-month old daughter (4-4-08). Very happy to be a part of this community, even if I don't have a ton to contribute all the time. Thanks again, Lizards!

377 New Hampshire Dad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:52am

re: #376 cg76

Enjoy every moment! They grow fast and it only gets better. I have two girls (2 and 4) and as a guy who simply assumed my kids would one day all be boys I can not tell you how much two beautiful, thoughtful, caring, angelic little girls could melt a dad's heart. If I'm blessed with nothing but girls I'll be the happiest guy in the world. No matter what happens with the election you'll still wake up and go to bed a mother.

378 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:51:36pm

re: #144 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's unfortunate that I jump away from my desk to turn down the volume on the radio when the MSM hourly "news" comes on in between Beck/Rush/Medved/Levin/local conservative hosts. Fox (News) Radio is not much better than ABC/CBS. They all fawn over the Ø.


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