Black Panthers?!?!?

What is this, 1967?

“A black man is going to win this election no matter what.” One of these Black Panthers is actually an official poll watcher.

Did they specify which one?

Would they be satisfied with Michael Steele or Alan Keyes?

My cousin told me this morning that the TBI and local LE are hanging out at polling places after the Black Panthers showed up in Crockett County the other day.

This happened IN Phili? That was stupid of them- 0bama needs the urban vote.

Charles, you're doing a good job of keeping things going.

Sound like the Black Panthers David Horowitz knew all right. Gangster scum, I hope the police pound them into pudding.

Went at 5:50 this morning. I was about 7th in line. I did succeed in maling my sister rethink her vote for 0bama. She had no clue about him whatsoever. She may not make the switch to McCain, but BHO definitely lost a vote.

Nudist group wants clothing-optional polling site

re: #4 Sharmuta

This happened IN Phili? That was stupid of them- 0bama needs the urban vote.

Oh, they'll let people vote - as long as they're black, or Dem.

"A black man" is sorta vague.

Doesn't sound like they're particularly stuck on Obama.

Time to go to work. Rah! McCAIN/PALIN '08!

If Obama is a Marxist, did we just lose the Cold War?

re: #8 Kenneth

Nudist group wants clothing-optional polling site

No touch polling?

Joe the Plumber commercial was just on the radio here saying vote McCain, but during Rush's show. Preaching to the choir.

“A black man is going to win this election no matter what.” One of these Black Panthers is actually an official poll watcher.

....I am soooooo holding my tongue right now.....

re: #2 zombie

Did they specify which one?

Would they be satisfied with Michael Steele or Alan Keyes?

Black Panthers don't bother me. They are nothing. The mental disease that makes Americans stupid enough to vote for some stranger that nobody knows anyting about except bad nasty shit is what scares me. Not some damn loud mouth in a black beanie.

Charles have you condsidered Mutant Hamster Chow?

Charles, when is pagination coming?

re: #12 faraway

If Obama is a Marxist, did we just lose the Cold War?

No.

Men will always yearn to be free. The cost of a paid mortgage and a filled gas tank will soon become apparent if The Marxist One wins.

re: #7 DM Glampers

Went at 5:50 this morning. I was about 7th in line. I did succeed in malingmaking my sister rethink her vote for 0bama. She had no clue about him whatsoever. She may not make the switch to McCain, but BHO definitely lost a vote.

PIMF

Oops! I forgot my armband.

Woman under investigation for voter fraud

MICHIGAN CITY - Authorities are investigating a Michigan City woman who reportedly said - while waiting to vote early here Monday - she already voted in Florida.

Ralph Howes, a La Porte County Election Board member, said Monday afternoon he had been on the phone with authorities in Lake County, Fla. He verified someone voted there using "the same date of birth and the same first name and middle initial but a different last name and different Social Security number, so I'm working on it.

"If we found out that she has voted twice, we certainly will be referring it to the prosecutor," said Howes, the Republican member of the three-person election board.

Authorities were alerted by attorney Doug Bernacchi, who has an office in Michigan City. Bernacchi said when he was going to the courthouse to conduct business, the woman, whom he didn't know, hailed him from a car and asked how many voting machines were available.

"She told me she already voted in Florida, where the polling place had 48 voting machines," he said, adding he was surprised anyone would be so brazen about committing vote fraud. He said her car had an Obama sticker on it.

Later in the courthouse, he noticed her in a line of people waiting to vote.

"She was politicking, going up and down the line, and she was in line to vote," Bernacchi said. She said she voted "in every state," he said.

re: #10 Cognito

"A black man" is sorta vague.

Doesn't sound like they're particularly stuck on Obama.

Oh, you fucking idiot.

The secret of the demagogue is to make himself as stupid as his audience so that they can believe they are as clever as he.

Karl Kraus.

Black Panthers

Seems to prove that one (at least) of the fundamentel elements of Obama's campaign was indeed about race.

re: #8 Kenneth

Nudist group wants clothing-optional polling site

If that's near a real college campus, I'd volunteer to be a poll watcher. Near Berkeley, not so much.

re: #18 Ward Cleaver

Charles, when is pagination coming?

I hope never. Please don't use pages.

Philadelphia - the City of Brotherly Shove. Why am I not surprised. I am happy in the thought that living in TX; that Sh%t would stand for about two seconds before said black panther picked himself up off the ground and ran to his car, avoiding a trip to the local hospital. :-)

re: #8 Kenneth

Nudist group wants clothing-optional polling site

So you can "pull the lever for Obama".

Wow! It is going to be an interesting couple of days.

What happens in Philly, stays in Philly.

re: #24 MandyManners

He's really going all out today. Even had the audacity to question the credibility of the secret 0bama supporting the palis report.

Probably the same a$$holes who said "dead man walking" to one of the lacrosse players on their way into the court room for their first appearance. F'ing ridiculous.

re: #19 jcm

No.

Men will always yearn to be free. The cost of a paid mortgage and a filled gas tank will soon become apparent if The Marxist One wins.

We spent all this effort guarding our national secrets from Marxists, and now we hand one the keys. What have we done?

re: #24 MandyManners

Oh, you fucking idiot.

What?

I'm mocking the Black Panthers. Is that a problem?

re: #10 Cognito

"A black man" is sorta vague.

Doesn't sound like they're particularly stuck on Obama.

Cognito, I often defend you, but not this time! That statement was just plain blockheaded! Pull your head out of the sand and get it in the game!

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

What happens in Philly, stays in Philly.

No it doesn't.
heh.

re: #13 jcm

No touch polling?

no poll touching! *snicker*

Whew - everything fresh as a daisy again..

Charles - thank you !

As long as he's black, they don't care who he is. Only race matters to groups like the Black Panthers.

re: #10 Cognito

"A black man" is sorta vague.

Doesn't sound like they're particularly stuck on Obama.

re: #10 Cognito

"A black man" is sorta vague.

Doesn't sound like they're particularly stuck on Obama.

And here I thought you couldn't be as dumb as you look, but boy was I wrong. You are actually dumber. You eat facts and shit media.

re: #17 Idle Drifter

Charles have you condsidered Mutant Hamster Chow?

My hamster was named Nibbles.

I guess almost everyone's was.

re: #33 Sharmuta

He's really going all out today. Even had the audacity to question the credibility of the secret 0bama supporting the palis report.

DId I find a Cognito bashing thread? That would make any election results a little easier to take.

re: #37 buzzsawmonkey

"Pull my lever."

Gives dangling Chads a whole new meaning.

I had a nice, presumably gay guy standing just outside my polling place this morning holding a "no on 8" sign. Not quite as intimidating as two Black Panthers with night sticks however.

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

What happens in Philly, stays in Philly.

What happens in Philly ends up in DC.

re: #36 Cognito

What?

I'm mocking the Black Panthers. Is that a problem?

That's not what it sounded like. Please remember your /sarc tag when you do that.

It was sarcasm, people.

And it was funny.

re: #13 jcm

No touch polling?

Tee-Hee "Polling"

Here's a polling story that was just reported to me:

Person went to polling station.

Workers there claimed person was not on voting rolls -- despite the fact they they have lived in the same place for over 15 years.

Repeated protestations and searches led nowhere.

Finally, as person was about to leave in tears, not having voted, Supervisor comes over asks asks of the poll workers, "Did you look on the green list?"

"What green list?"

Well, it turns out there was another list they didn't know about, and they had been erroneously turning people away all morning. Three people who had been rejected but who were still standing around were discovered in the mysterious green list.

All three had to swear they still lived in their homes, but then allowed to vote.

When the person who told me this story turned in their completed ballot, the poll worker took it, tore off the stub to hand back, and slipped into the ballot box -- but as he did so he took a not-very-surreptitious glance at the filled-in boxes, and by so doing he could tell who the person has voted for president (since he had memorized which bubble was the presidential race bubble). He scowled and glared at the person as they left, having perceived that they had voted for McCain.

This was not me -- I'm not going to vote until this afternoon.

re: #47 WrathofG-d

I had a nice, presumably gay guy standing just outside my polling place this morning holding a "no on 8" sign. Not quite as intimidating as two Black Panthers with night sticks however.

Introduce them!

So help me, I will not let myself be goaded today.

re: #1 zombie

Black Panthers?!?!?

What is this, 1967?

No kidding - Hey I was a teen in the 70s and grew up in the Bay Area - Black Panthers still send a shiver up my spine.

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Cognito, I often defend you, but not this time! That statement was just plain blockheaded! Pull your head out of the sand and get it in the game!

What the heck are you talking about? I'm just mocking the absurdity of 'a black man' -- the fact that the Panthers don't even apparently care which man, as long as he's black.

Why is that a problem?

Just came back from voting here in NYC, first time that I have seen lines at the polling place. This must be a record turn out.
Can only encourage everyone to get out there and vote, as Buzz is saying:
"Without your vote, McCain cannot win."

At my polling place I was given a choice of either using a voting machine or a paper ballot. I chose paper.

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

DId I find a Cognito bashing thread? That would make any election results a little easier to take.

The secret Obama/Pali thread is the starter, but this one is shaping up to being one as well.

Suggestion from Hillbuzz on those still needing to go to the polls......Take a camera with you to record any funny business! Good piece of advice in these times!

If he were a real hard guy he'd try that in Hialeah, Florida.

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

This is at least the third one today.

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

One of these Black Panthers is actually an official poll watcher.

I'm not surprised.

I guess they didn't get the message Barry was a unifier

from WSBTV Nov 4 2008,

Georgia's Secretary of State has launched a full investigation and may seek criminal charges against three Georgia men who appear to have early-voted twice.

“This is extraordinarily disturbing," said Secretary of State Karen Handel.

A team of investigative journalists from WSB-TV in Atlanta, WFTV in Orlando and WFTS in Tampa and WCPO in Cincinnati compared Georgia's voter rolls with those in Florida and Ohio and found more than 100,000 people who appear to be registered to vote in more than one state, with no government oversight to catch it.

re: #53 zombie

He scowled and glared at the person as they left, having perceived that they had voted for McCain.

I wonder if he was scowling because he had seen more McCain votes than he thought he would?

not surprising.... We need to get out the vote!

Me and my wife voted this morning in Ca. very easy prossess, all the poll-workers were smiling. Boooooring!

re: #53 zombie

Here's a polling story that was just reported to me:

Person went to polling station.

Workers there claimed person was not on voting rolls -- despite the fact they they have lived in the same place for over 15 years.

Repeated protestations and searches led nowhere.

Finally, as person was about to leave in tears, not having voted, Supervisor comes over asks asks of the poll workers, "Did you look on the green list?"

"What green list?"

Well, it turns out there was another list they didn't know about, and they had been erroneously turning people away all morning. Three people who had been rejected but who were still standing around were discovered in the mysterious green list.

All three had to swear they still lived in their homes, but then allowed to vote.

When the person who told me this story turned in their completed ballot, the poll worker took it, tore off the stub to hand back, and slipped into the ballot box -- but as he did so he took a not-very-surreptitious glance at the filled-in boxes, and by so doing he could tell who the person has voted for president (since he had memorized which bubble was the presidential race bubble). He scowled and glared at the person as they left, having perceived that they had voted for McCain.

This was not me -- I'm not going to vote until this afternoon.

"Green list" = Any Registered Republican?

When I voted this am, I voted a straight Republican ticket.

There were two Dems on the ballot running uncontested.

I didn't vote for one, and wrote MYSELF in as the candidate for the other one.

Watching Obama give his concession speech on a $5 million greek themed stage would be sooooo juicy! Boundless arrogance brought to heel. Please, Lord, make it happen!

re: #30 OldLineTexan

So you can "pull the lever for Obama".

" pull the lever"...hehe... never heard it called that before. Too clever.

re: #51 Ben Hur

It was sarcasm, people.

And it was funny.

Ding-ding-ding! (up)

Rush is talking about the silent majority. He used the phrase "shock the world." And the world will be shocked when McCain is victorious. This election is global in it's impact in many ways. McCain/Palin '08.

I was not prepared to live in a third-world, Big Man-ruled, banana republic at this stage of my life. Since the PA state government cannot be trusted, Justice needs to send in federal marshals.

Overheard a moonbat woman on the train this morning saying that if Obama loses that she will move back to Canada. Here's the best part she claimed, "The healthcare is better & it's free.'
Everybody just rolled their eyes. She seemed really addled.

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

Compared to Obama, he's Ronald Reagan.

re: #64 Sharmuta

This is at least the third one today.

Oh, he was being a suppurating ass today more so than is normal even for him? Oh joy, oh joy!

re: #8 Kenneth

Nudist group wants clothing-optional polling site

gee .....wonder who they'd be voting for?

re: #53 zombie

I'm surprised that none were offered provisional ballots.

gosh buzz, where were ya in 2000? Hanging chads were the rage for sure......re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

re: #8 Kenneth

Gives a whole new meaning to "hanging chads."

Left-wing fascism is not pretty.

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

Um, the alternative is Obama...duh.

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

A good problem to have.

Beats the alternative.

I want to be "Elected"

Considering the fact that it's Philly, we're lucky there wasn't a shooting.

(Folks, just scroll over Cognito until the election is over. He doesn't know when to apply sarc tags and sometimes it's hard to tell when he's snarky and when he's just making a funny.)

This must have been mis-reported. Everybody knows that the Black Panthers are just "community organizers".

I'm sure what they really saw was Bull Connor with his dogs or Lester Maddox running off to get the fire department water cannons.

*SPIT*
/I hope I don't need this by now...

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

Yeah, thats a real problem compared to what we'll have otherwise.

Dumbshit

Would it go easier on the hamsters if folks clip from long quotes? It seems that several people quoting the same long quote would bog stuff down, no?

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

That's not what it sounded like. Please remember your /sarc tag when you do that.

I can't think of another conceivable reading of that post, unless someone has such a kneejerk reaction that they search for any possible misunderstanding. The Panthers are absurd racists who don't give a whit about Obama -- only for skin color.

And I didn't include a sarcasm tag because it wasn't sarcasm. When it is sarcasm, it should be clear enoug

re: #44 OldLineTexan

My hamster was named Nibbles.

I guess almost everyone's was.

I never had a hampster for a pet but my little had one named Arthur. Everytime he got out of his cage and loose on the house Dad would grab our Beagle, Buster, to find him. He'd sniff the cage and wood chips, Dad would then say go find Arthur and in less than two minutes Buster would find Arthur under the couch or behind the china cabinet.

I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 in California, because I really don't like the groups promoting it -- they're exactly the same people who are trying to force a far-right creationist agenda into schools.

I swear I'll retire in Costa Rica

You know, it's very odd. I have a good friend from Italy that sent me an IM this morning asking if I had voted. I mentioned to him that I had not gone yet, and that I would be heading out later today to cast my vote. He then asked if I thought Obama was going to win the election, and I said that there is always a possibility, depending on how things fall into place. He then asked me if I was going to vote for Obama, because so many people in Europe want an Obama presidency.

I responded "I will cast my vote, and we will see what happens, and I consider my vote to be a private matter."

He says "Here's to hoping you make the right choice!"

And I will be making the right choice, when I cast my vote for McCain/Palin.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

I wonder if the same thing is going on in St. Louis .....

Breaking: Voter Intimidation in N. St. Louis County

I'll keep this as brief as possible, as we're still gathering information from our field reporters.

We had a tip come in our on Strikeforce Hotline that there are police circling Berkley Middle School in the Airport Township.

There are two issues in play:

1. Police are circling the polling place, which according to our source, is making people in line uneasy.
2. Poll workers are harassing voters over identification.

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

What happens in Philly, stays in Philly.

. . . , not today! Today the world is watching what's happening in philly!

I sent in my absentee ballot a couple weeks. I'll soon be down at the campaign office making phone calls.

re: #64 Sharmuta

This is at least the third one today.

Dammit, just when I found something fun to do, I have to run downtown to get my blood pressure meds, really.

Hey Cognito, keep being an asshole for the rest of the day so when I get back, I can join back in the fun.

You know, why don't you tell us where you "sit" before you tell us where you "stand." Your method of commenting is to never tell us where you are coming from, just where you are going, there for it offers you the option of weaseling out of any possible position because you never start with any obvious foundation.

Almost like the MSM, whoops, did I say that?

re: #58 Cognito

What the heck are you talking about? I'm just mocking the absurdity of 'a black man' -- the fact that the Panthers don't even apparently care which man, as long as he's black.

Why is that a problem?

I got it, if that helps.

re: #97 Charles

I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 in California, because I really don't like the groups promoting it -- they're exactly the same people who are trying to force a far-right creationist agenda into schools.

Well, I guess then it is Ok for first graders to attend a lesbian wedding for educational purposes...

No problems in Mesa, Arizona today, just lots of people with the same idea as me....I got there at 6:00am and by the time I cast my vote 45 minutes later, I was number 157 on the counter.

I saw three ladies given provisional ballots because the records indicated they were given early ballots weeks ago. All three also were asked to put their jackets on because they were wearing Obama t-shirts.

Vote early and vote often!

I know of at least one vote cast for McCain now!

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

I don't see that as a problem, unlike if Obama were. Now that would be a disaster, making Jimmuh Cahtuh look like an effective President.

re: #91 buzzsawmonkey
yep, I probably did, just jumped in like a nut :>)

re: #72 joekowalski247

Me and my wife voted this morning in Ca. very easy prossess, all the poll-workers were smiling. Boooooring!

I just got back from voting about half an hour ago. My parents voted by mail, but this being my first time voting, I wanted to get the full experience. (Besides, I don't really trust vote-by-mail.) The poll workers thought I had voted absentee as well, but they checked their books and everything turned out to be just fine. I was in and out in five minutes.

This is not the BP I knew in the 70's. They were more into ambush and back shooting rather than direct confrontation. But then direct confrontation with us PIGS (Pride Integrity Guts) would have resulted in a serious case of lead poisoning.

re: #21 buzzsawmonkey

Do not let any news reporting prevent you from going to the polls and casting your vote.

Do not be discouraged.

Do not be dissuaded.

Without your vote, McCain cannot win.

And remember: McCain is still campaigning!
He is continuing to fight - so don't you dare to give up on him!

re: #16 maddogg

Black Panthers don't bother me. They are nothing. The mental disease that makes Americans stupid enough to vote for some stranger that nobody knows anyting about except bad nasty shit is what scares me. Not some damn loud mouth in a black beanie.

Alan Keyes is to the Black Panther what Sarah Palin is to Woman's rights groups.

Are there photos or video of NBPP intimidation in Philly? This should be all over the news.

re: #79 opnion

Overheard a moonbat woman on the train this morning saying that if Obama loses that she will move back to Canada. Here's the best part she claimed, "The healthcare is better & it's free.'
Everybody just rolled their eyes. She seemed really addled.

I've experienced the Canadian healthcare system up close. . .its NOT better. . not even close.

And its certainly not free, either, though sure, having to wait six months before you can see a specialist DOES tend to reduce costs a bit.

re: #97 Charles

I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 in California, because I really don't like the groups promoting it -- they're exactly the same people who are trying to force a far-right creationist agenda into schools.

If I were in California, I would vote no on Prop 8 simply because I think it's wrong.

Coworkers were talking about how this is a historical election. One gal said because of the first woman VP, another said because first black Pres. I so wanted to chime in and say the first black socialist. But didn't.

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

Yes, but we WON'T have Obama as president.

Silver lining and all.

re: #105 cblesz

Well, I guess then it is Ok for first graders to attend a lesbian wedding for educational purposes...

If you want to accept that fear-mongering crap at face value, that's your choice.

re: #97 Charles

Like you said before, Charles - it's bad legislation. Someone has to figure out how to protect the opponents from lawsuit rather than legislate against the folks they oppose.
[crap i think i just bit my own tail...ow]

Speaking of Black Panthers, I actually mentioned them in this zomblog posting from last night:

Berkeley, land of happy T-shirts

A couple minutes later, leaving the event, I ran into this guy with his “Defend Oakland” shirt featuring a machine gun. And no, he’s not talking about defending it from criminals — he’s talking about defending it from the police. The slogan and the concept are left over from the Black Panther era.

Welcome to your new world, Jewish American voters.

Best I recall, the Black Panthers aren't particularly fond of Jews.

re: #67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I guess they didn't get the message Barry was a unifier

re: #97 Charles

I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 in California, because I really don't like the groups promoting it -- they're exactly the same people who are trying to force a far-right creationist agenda into schools.

Not being in CA myself the one good thing about Prop 8 is that it might help drive a much larger voter turnout, thus potentially upsetting an Obama blowout.

re: #74 obscured by clouds

Watching Obama give his concession speech on a $5 million greek themed stage would be sooooo juicy! Boundless arrogance brought to heel. Please, Lord, make it happen!

AMEN!

"Clear enough to need no tag, hopefully," that should have read.

re: #1 zombie

Black Panthers?!?!?

What is this, 1967?

Yeah, and next year might be 1984.
(half /sarc)

re: #116 JamesTKirk

If I were in California, I would vote no on Prop 8 simply because I think it's wrong.

How so?

re: #97 Charles

I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 in California, because I really don't like the groups promoting it -- they're exactly the same people who are trying to force a far-right creationist agenda into schools.

What's prop 8?

Is that the one to ban Gay marriage?

re: #113 Wishing

Alan Keyes is to the Black Panther what Sarah Palin is to Woman's rights groups.

I always liked Keyes, even when I disagree with him.

re: #106 Desert Dog

These games with voter fraud would end very quickly if the laws were firmly enforced and ID required when casting the ballot. But, there seems to be one political party that is quite agitated about preventing either of these logical steps.

re: #18 Ward Cleaver

Charles, when is pagination coming?

Never, hopefully!

re: #106 Desert Dog

I know of at least one vote cast for McCain now!

Now you know two. Me me me. :)

re: #79 opnion

Overheard a moonbat woman on the train this morning saying that if Obama loses that she will move back to Canada. Here's the best part she claimed, "The healthcare is better & it's free.'
Everybody just rolled their eyes. She seemed really addled.

I'm surprised you didn't buy her a one way ticket and say "go for it".

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

Way better than a socialist.

re: #97 Charles
ehhhhh.....but isn't that a seperate issue?

re: #119 Charles

If you want to accept that fear-mongering crap at face value, that's your choice.

fear mongering? Um, I watched in horror as first graders were taken on a field trip to their lesbian teacher's wedding. How is THAT educational? That is exactly why I scrape to send my daughter to private school.

re: #1 zombie

your article is causing quite the rift on the CrossFit website....

www.crossfit.com

Who won the game last night?

re: #53 zombie

The "green list" = Republicans?

Wouldn't surprise me.

No matter who wins, tomorrow will be the start of better race relations in this country.

/sarcasm

re: #97 Charles

That is, of course, your right.

I disagree with your reasoning however. I do not endorse the groups promoting Prop 8, but the actual proposition itself.

That being said, the t.v. ads discussing how Prop 8 was just like Japanese Internment during ww2 (it isn't, not even close), and Anti-Black laws did push me more towards the YES on prop 8 side.

Let's not forget that Homosexuals HAVE the right to marry, just not people of the same sex.

Michelle Malkin has the Black Panther story up with details.

re: #137 cblesz

fear mongering? Um, I watched in horror as first graders were taken on a field trip to their lesbian teacher's wedding. How is THAT educational? That is exactly why I scrape to send my daughter to private school.

Taking children on a field trip to any teacher's wedding seems inappropriate to me.

“A black man is going to win this election no matter what.” One of these Black Panthers is actually an official poll watcher.

But but but but what is Governor Palin wearing today? That is what real journalism is about.

In a perfect world, the Black Panther holding the nightstick yapping about the end of white supremacy would be beaten to a bloody pulp by a couple of no-nonsense, black cops. That's the Philly I know and love.

re: #136 mahatma coat

ehhhhh.....but isn't that a seperate issue?

All of these issues are part of the same agenda.

Did anybody actually see this happen? I find this story hard to believe. Not that it didn't happen... I just hope it didn't. I really hope somebody grabbed it for upload to YouTube.

re: #2 zombie

Did they specify which one?

Would they be satisfied with Michael Steele or Alan Keyes?

Man, I'd vote for Thomas Sowell in a New York Minute. He has at least as much executive experience as The One, plus, he's got that whole not-even-close-to-being-a-marxist thing working for him.

re: #137 cblesz

fear mongering? Um, I watched in horror as first graders were taken on a field trip to their lesbian teacher's wedding. How is THAT educational? That is exactly why I scrape to send my daughter to private school.

That's not educational. Now, a field trip to a lesbian honeymoon ... that's educational!

re: #106 Desert Dog

No problems in Mesa, Arizona today, just lots of people with the same idea as me....I got there at 6:00am and by the time I cast my vote 45 minutes later, I was number 157 on the counter.

I saw three ladies given provisional ballots because the records indicated they were given early ballots weeks ago. All three also were asked to put their jackets on because they were wearing Obama t-shirts.

Vote early and vote often!

I know of at least one vote cast for McCain now!

Hey Desert Dog, seems we're neighbors! The hubby voted at 6 am this morning too. You can count at least three (including my mail in vote) McCain votes for now!

re: #104 opnion

me too.

re: #35 faraway

We spent all this effort guarding our national secrets from Marxists, and now we hand one the keys. What have we done?

We got soft.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

There have been those pointing out the Marxist subversion of Media and Education, they were ignored.

We allowed creeping socialism from the New Deal to the Great Society, we've allowed Marxist ideology to be define as another point of view not the evil that it is.

If McCain wins will we learn from the close call?

If Obama wins will we redouble, triple our efforts to preserve and restore liberty?

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

Your vote does matter. It proves to those who look afterward that there are some sane people left in the world. Glad you went out and were counted.

re: #115 looking closely

I've experienced the Canadian healthcare system up close. . .its NOT better. . not even close.

And its certainly not free, either, though sure, having to wait six months before you can see a specialist DOES tend to reduce costs a bit.

The Canadian system has led to rationing & Long delays for elective procedures.
There is a reason why Canadians come South & enter our fee for service system, it's better

re: #97 Charles

I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 in California, because I really don't like the groups promoting it -- they're exactly the same people who are trying to force a far-right creationist agenda into schools.

I also voted NO on it, for the same reason.

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

My friend, I did my part.

re: #92 CIA Reject

This must have been mis-reported. Everybody knows that the Black Panthers are just "community organizers".

'Re-Organizing' peoples faces with their fists if they dont vote Obama

re: #118 MrSilverDragon

Yes, but we WON'T have Obama as president.

Silver lining and all.

Excellent comment and so true.

re: #16 maddogg

Black Panthers don't bother me. They are nothing. The mental disease that makes Americans stupid enough to vote for some stranger that nobody knows anyting about except bad nasty shit is what scares me. Not some damn loud mouth in a black beanie.

The original Panthers were more than just loudmouths in black beanies. They were intent on initiating the takeover of the United States by force. They've been retroactively rehabilitated by academia, but they were in fact quite scary.

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

I live in Maryland, so I understand exactly what you're saying. That's not going to stop me from attempting to make my voice and my choice heard.

Just to help cheer you up. PUMA PREDICTION:

MCCAIN-PALIN 310 OBAMA-BIDEN 228

re: #53 zombie

I'm reposting this link to a text at HillBuzz again.

It has a phone number where all such occurrences can be reported.
I hope someone can report this to the GOP phone line in that link above - utterly disgusting stuff to happen!

re: #149 ModernDayPrayer

Did anybody actually see this happen? I find this story hard to believe. Not that it didn't happen... I just hope it didn't. I really hope somebody grabbed it for upload to YouTube.

See my #144

Somebody should remind them that while they think they are in Zimbabwe, they are not the majority of population and certainly do not have the majority of guns. Lock 'n load.

This is going to get nasty real quick.

re: #95 Cognito

I can't think of another conceivable reading of that post, unless someone has such a kneejerk reaction that they search for any possible misunderstanding. The Panthers are absurd racists who don't give a whit about Obama -- only for skin color.

And I didn't include a sarcasm tag because it wasn't sarcasm. When it is sarcasm, it should be clear enoug

What?

re: #129 looking closely

it is not to BAN anything.

It simply changes the CA constitution back to what it has always stated before activist Judges in CA, and San Fran Mayors decided to go against the will of the people. It amends the Constitution to state that Marriage is between one man, and one woman.

Thus, 2 men can't marry 3 women, one man can't marry his dog, you can't marry a dolphin, etc.

re: #140 newsjunkie_ky

Steelers blew them out.

re: #134 summergurl

I'm surprised you didn't buy her a one way ticket and say "go for it".

She will leave when Alec Baldwin does.

re: #143 WrathofG-d

Let's not forget that Homosexuals HAVE the right to marry, just not people of the same sex.

And black people HAD the right to use water fountains, just not the ones belonging to white people.

No problems here in Austin, yet.

re: #151 JamesTKirk

That's not educational. Now, a field trip to a lesbian honeymoon ... that's educational!

Educational? No. Exciting? Yes...(as long as they are hot)... :-)

re: #131 Athos

AZ is one of the states that requires a government issued ID to vote. Why all states don't do that is beyond me. I think absentee ballots have the potential to be abused more than walk in votes. You would think that a country as technologically advanced as ours could come up with a safe and secure way to vote.......I would say we are not even close to that right now.

re: #148 Charles

are you trying to say that you disagree with Proposition 8 on Church/State issues?

re: #121 zombie

Speaking of Black Panthers, I actually mentioned them in this zomblog posting from last night:

Berkeley, land of happy T-shirts

Does the phrase "By any means, necessary!" ring a familiar bell?

/ What do you mean I can't appropriate that phrase?

re: #148 Charles
so lets deal with them one at a time

re: #136 mahatma coat

ehhhhh.....but isn't that a seperateseparate issue?

Common mistake, had to.

re: #162 zombie

The original Panthers were more than just loudmouths in black beanies. They were intent on initiating the takeover of the United States by force. They've been retroactively rehabilitated by academia, but they were in fact quite scary.

Well, then why don't those scary people come on down here and scare some of us right wing scary people?

I just walked down to the local school house in Jackson Co. MO. and did my part. No lines at all, I breezed right on through. The only thing out of the ordinary was some yuppie who lived 25 miles away and worked near the school thought he could vote there. He walked away without causing a scene thankfully.

Take your video cameras to the polls.

Then there needs to be one central YouTube hub for all videos of just this type of voter intimidation, dirty tricks and outright voter fraud. Such videos should not be scattered here, there and everywhere all over the Internet. They all need to be in one place.

re: #144 Just_A_Grunt

Michelle Malkin has the Black Panther story up with details.

NRO has a transcript.

re: #167 mustng66

Lock 'n load.

Locked 'n loaded, Sir!

Why in the hell weren't they both arrested? ?
I cannot believe what is going on! Insanity!

re: #137 cblesz

fear mongering? Um, I watched in horror as first graders were taken on a field trip to their lesbian teacher's wedding. How is THAT educational? That is exactly why I scrape to send my daughter to private school.

And that's why people need to be aware of what is happening at their children's schools. If you don't like that you don't have to accept it.

The answer is not to amend the state constitution.

I am a pretty conservative guy and the whole Prop 8 thing really has me torn. A friend or ours and his significant other just went to California to be married on Monday. I have a great deal of respect for both. They have been together for more than 10 years and have a very stable and good relationship. I wish them well, they deserve it. By the way their marriage was done as a civil union without regilious overtones. So I am confilicted about the whole gay marriage thing.

Last election they told me to put my ID away. didn't need it. This time the dude didn't even let me get out one word before he demanded my ID. FINE by me.

I repeat: my friend from Colorado had just said, that Dems are providing buses for poor people, in order to shuttle them into voting stations.

Can anyone conform this?

Hey...when do I get my tax cut check? i make less than $250...oh wait, I make more than $94, so my social security tax is going up. Oh, and cap gains is going up....

Never mind. I will not be receiving any tax cuts...

re: #1 zombie

By now, they should be...Grey Panthers...

I think it would be nice if instead of only showing all the blacks in line voting for the historic black candidate ... they could show all the women who are voting for the historic woman candidate ......almost every shot of long lines they show blacks ......I am glad they are voting but dang .... we vote too ....

re: #95 Cognito

When it is sarcasm, it should be clear enoug

Oh, you're clear enoug, Cognito.

re: #180 midwestgak

thanks ......I'm a bit anal about spelling and grammer

I voted about 10 am. Everything nice and friendly, lots of hugs and handshakes. About a 50-50 mix of black and white, both poll workers and voters. I was #255 to sign-in, but #406 in the ballot box. Higher than normal number of absentee ballots, but this also looks like a large turnout in this area. My strongest empression is the silent majority are turning out to vote. If this is happening across the country, tonight will be a good night.

re: #162 zombie

The original Panthers were more than just loudmouths in black beanies. They were intent on initiating the takeover of the United States by force. They've been retroactively rehabilitated by academia, but they were in fact quite scary.

And they're just as scary now -- more so, since they've gained a legitimacy in some areas. Their membership is way up.

re: #153 RightMinded

Are you in Mesa as well? Wow, a neighbor Lizard!

re: #147 rudi

In a perfect world, the Black Panther holding the nightstick yapping about the end of white supremacy would be beaten to a bloody pulp by a couple of no-nonsense, black cops. That's the Philly I know and love.

yep, ya got that right!
Its raining now, the polling places are empty in my area . . . , nary a soul around.

re: #162 zombie

The original Panthers were more than just loudmouths in black beanies. They were intent on initiating the takeover of the United States by force. They've been retroactively rehabilitated by academia, but they were in fact quite scary.

Interesting thing is that Obama lost his Congressional Race to former Black Panther Bobby Rush. Now the pnthers are trying to get Barry elected. Must be make up time.

Black Panthers = Weather Underground

re: #119 Charles

If you want to accept that fear-mongering crap at face value, that's your choice.

Please vote Yes on 8. I ask you to please do that if only to reverse the activist judges who made the proposition necessary. Gay marriage passed by the legislature would be one thing, gay marriage imposed by judicial fiat is something else entirely.

re: #172 JamesTKirk

And black people HAD the right to use water fountains, just not the ones belonging to white people.

Oh snap!

Fox News just reported on an incident at a polling station in Philadelphia, where Black Panthers were blocking the entrance (one of them holding a nightstick) and intimidating voters; police were called. According to a witness they were telling people, “A black man is going to win this election no matter what,” and, “White supremacy is over.” One of these Black Panthers is actually an official poll watcher.

To funny. I doubt that will happen in Gatlinburg, (I already voted, but have to make a run to the local post office. The voting station is right next door) BUT I just may drive to Knoxville. If I see if that is happening. Anyone want a reasonably decent , yet small blog, 'cause I'll be in Brushy Mountain State Prison?

re: #143 WrathofG-d

Let's not forget that Homosexuals HAVE the right to marry, just not people of the same sex.

Why should the government decide who should marry whom? It wasn't that long ago interracial marriages were illegal. Conservatives desperately need to return to embracing personal liberty.

re: #65 RexFeral

I hate to be a buzzkill, but do you know what will happen if our prayers are answered and there is a come-from-behind underdog victory? (I mean besides the riots.) We'll have John McCain as president.

To use Ann Landers's expression, that's a high class problem.

Just got this in my email. This is written by someone I know. It's not forwarded. This incident would have happened in the Tidewater area of Virginia:

Did you SEE the touch screen ballot!?

In case you didn't, it it a fine example of home court advantage.

The first screen has one choice in big bold letters

BARAK OBAMA

Now it is not at all clear from the first screen that there are any other choices, but, if you look closely, there is a "next" button. In order to see the other presidential candidates. One must click the little touch button marked "next"...which adjoins the "vote" field. If you do not fumble finger the vote/next field and vote for Barak Obama you are taken to the next screen the POTUS wannabe ghetto which contains the 4 other presidential candidates in smaller type.

The Senatorial and House fields are laid out the same as the mere non-Obama contenders.

As we have a secret ballot (until at least January 20th) I will leave you guessing ( yeah right) and refrain from disclosing my choices, except to say I voted for whom I intended.

This touch screen may be as bad as the butterfly butterfly ballots of Boca Raton infamy.

12 hours & this horrid election will be over.

I assume you voted without mishap?

Unbeliavable:

PUMA P.A.C.

Here in PA, I live in heavy Af. American township…could sense the buzz at polling place for BO…The lady at the front door hands everyone a Democratic ballot and says “I recommend voting Straight Deomcrat” I shouted out to her “You can’t say that in front of the door entrance!” She said “What?”

I should have signed up for poll watcher…but instead I am off to McCain office to call any GOP not yet voted to get your BUTT to the polls!
Let’s HOPE rural PA delivers for McCain!

re: #173 totex-blau

No problems here in Austin, yet.

How could there be problems here? All the Obamites here are, uh, out of shape. We won't have problems here.

No fascism here. Move along.

Go vote for the only hero on the ballot-McCain/Palin

re: #36 Cognito

What?

I'm mocking the Black Panthers. Is that a problem?

"I'm sorry for breaking up your Black Panther Party" - F. Gump

Black Panthers = Morrocans.

WEll, in ISrael they do.

re: #197 Charles

And they're just as scary now -- more so, since they've gained a legitimacy in some areas. Their membership is way up.

yes, their membership is way up!

re: #194 Kenneth

Oh, you're clear enoug, Cognito.

Yeah, I hit the button too quickly. Thanks for pointing that out.

re: #187 Charles

And that's why people need to be aware of what is happening at their children's schools. If you don't like that you don't have to accept it.

The answer is not to amend the state constitution.

But, if you cannot afford private school...you have no choice what the curriculum is...

re: #82 mahatma coat

gee .....wonder who they'd be voting for?

You know, a lot of nudists are actually politically-conservative Christians. So I gather, anyway.

I'm voting NO on Proposition 8 in California, because I really don't like the groups promoting it -- they're exactly the same people who are trying to force a far-right creationist agenda into schools.

Any thought on the anti-Mormon commercial? Doesn't it remind you of anti-Catholic and anti-Jewish propaganda? It shows to evil Mormons invading and ransacking a house.

Ok the video in now online...

re: #3 MandyManners

My cousin told me this morning that the TBI and local LE are hanging out at polling places after the Black Panthers showed up in Crockett County the other day.

Whats TBI and LE

re: #191 cblesz

Hey...when do I get my tax cut check? i make less than $250...oh wait, I make more than $94, so my social security tax is going up. Oh, and cap gains is going up....

Never mind. I will not be receiving any tax cuts...

Once El Presidente fails to extend the Bush tax cuts, everyone's taxes will go up. But, just remember, when you start getting less and less on your paycheck, you are just being patriotic and helping those down below you. I am sure that will make the sting less painful, yes?

Back from the voting place just north of the State capitol. Line out the door. Everyone being very well behaved and no ninnys anywhere near the place. And ID checks have been voluntary since the last few elections. looks to be smooth here

re: #143 WrathofG-d

The person who most changed my mind on gay marriage is Andrew Sullivan. I used to support gay marriage on the basic fairness of the issue, but Sully convinced me beyond any shadow f doubt that the real agenda was just to be as in-your-face as possible to the heterosexual population. There's a good policy for minorities: be sure to piss of the majority as much as you possibly can.

Let's see how that works for you.

After the election no matter who wins I am DONE with the following people. Laura Ingraham, Noonan, Kristol, Barnes, Hume, Rove, Boortz, Coulter and the ultimate shill Hannity. I'm sure Hannity will be ready to slit his wrists on the air again today just like in 04.

re: #8 Kenneth

Nudist group wants clothing-optional polling site

Think they will have any hanging chad issues?

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Please vote Yes on 8. I ask you to please do that if only to reverse the activist judges who made the proposition necessary. Gay marriage passed by the legislature would be one thing, gay marriage imposed by judicial fiat is something else entirely.

Sorry, no. I have a real aversion to using the state constitution to regulate social issues. It's flat wrong, in my opinion.

Chuckie Schumkster equates political talk radio to pornography.

“The very same people who don’t want the Fairness Doctrine want the FCC [Federal Communications Commission] to limit pornography on the air. I am for that… But you can’t say government hands off in one area to a commercial enterprise but you are allowed to intervene in another. That’s not consistent.”

In 2007, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), a close ally of Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told The Hill, “It’s time to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine. I have this old-fashioned attitude that when Americans hear both sides of the story, they’re in a better position to make a decision.”

Like the people heard the whole story on Obama in the MSM?

Vile putrid moron.

re: #100 Killgore Trout
I wish more poll workers harrassed people for identification. No picure ID required? Huh?

re: #155 jcm

We got soft.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

We allowed creeping socialism from the New Deal to the Great Society, we've allowed Marxist ideology to be define as another point of view not the evil that it is.

Here's a scary confession. I did not perceive or even question the consequences of the New Deal until I started listening to Rush in the mid 90s. Shudder.

I could not get onto LGF earlier as my browser was running slow...high traffic day I suppose. So I was able to go on HotAir and post the following under the "Track Today's Vote..." thread...no Black Panthers to report, but there was one onther incident..

I voted at approximatly 7:10 this morning where I live just north of Boston and it was doing a pretty brisk business. Traffic was a bit more heavy on my way out just a few minutes later. I did however witness one curious incident. While giving my name and address to one of the nice little old(er) ladies working the table for my precinct, a married couple around my age (early 40’s) from the same street gave theirs and was informed that they had already voted. The woman then stated that they had “requested absentee ballots and never received them.” The little old(er) lady then said “Well it’s already marked that you voted.” At this point the woman voter stated she spoke to someone at the Town Hall and was informed to “just show up and vote anyway.” At this point the second older woman working the table just said to mark an “x” next to the one already on the list and give them another ballot. I didn’t give it a lot of thought until driving to work that I may have just witnessed a case of voter fraud. Should they have been allowed to vote without confirming in some way that they had not already done so?

My vote has been cast. Seems like Mac had a pretty good surge from the non-decideds...or non-addmitteds.

re: #217 Dave the.....

Any thought on the anti-Mormon commercial? Doesn't it remind you of anti-Catholic and anti-Jewish propaganda? It shows to evil Mormons invading and ransacking a house.

Yes, it's disgusting.

re: #140 newsjunkie_ky

Who won the game last night?

Pittsburgh beat the Redskins 23-6.

Charles, for some reason the "heart" button isn't coming up, this thread. As the update loads, I see a hold-open-spot appear for the button, but once the load finishes, the thing disappears and I get the - + appearing next to the ! instead.

re: #225 oldengr

LOL!

re: #140 newsjunkie_ky

Who won the game last night?

Steelers won. When this has occured in the past (Redskins playing prior to a national election) when the Redskins have won, from what I hear...just received an email with that info, no time to check it out...yet)...The party in power wins. The Redskins have a 18-1 record, winning.

While I was on my way to vote the other day (I voted early in NC) I spoke to a woman who had decided not to vote. Her inclination was to vote for McCain and she very much disliked Obama's policies but she was concerned about suggestions she had heard that there would be racial violence if McCain was elected. She decided that if she didn't vote whatever happened wouldn't be her fault. In the unlikely event that Obama wins NC by one vote it will prove the efficacy of sending one's surrogates out to Mau Mau the media since that one vote will have been obtained through intimidation.

Welcome to Philadelphia... Unfortunately, this story is not at all surprising to me. Having grown up in the area this behavior is all too common. Remember this is the city that brought you Mumia and the MOVE group who I am very familiar with. Also do not forget the former Mayor John Street and his brother Milton. Milton was given sweetheart contracts for the concessions at the newly built Philly Airport. The City has become a hopeless mess. They have been trying to institute "Regionalization" and have been trying to figure out a way to get the four suburban counties to send money into that urban cesspool. It is only eclipsed by Camden NJ.

/CA is so ahead of the curve, with this banning Gay marriage stuff.

Meanwhile in South Carolina, voters have the opportunity to vote on this gem today:

AMENDMENT 1:

Must Section 33, Article III of the Constitution of this State be amended so as to delete the provision that no unmarried woman shall legally consent to sexual intercourse who shall not have attained the age of fourteen years?

Although in today's light, this bit from the SC State constitution is embarrassing, it was a very early attempt at establishing a legal age of consent, and retrospectively decades ahead of its time.

And in case anyone wants to swing by SC and get in a last stab at legal pedophilia, OTHER state law has estabished a practical age of consent of 18 years, the same as every other state. The point of deleting this bit from the SC Constitution is to strengthen that other law!

#1 Zombie,

Black Panthers?!?!?

What is this, 1967?

In the dysfundtional mind of most Obama supporters it is still 1967.

Rush just said that Senator Moran from VA referred to the simplistic Republican notion that if people have wealth, they are entitled to keep it!

I keep thinking I'll wake up---people really can't be saying this stuff...

The question is, what did Obama know and when did he know it? Did he order the Black Panthers to block the entrances? How high up does this go? If BHO wins, will we have watergate style hearings? Will this bring the Obama administration down?

(the above is sarcasm....trying to sound like the Bush haters)

Recently seen in the United states of Obamaland

re: #8 Kenneth

Nudist group wants clothing-optional polling site

Please, G-d, let it be a colony of 21 year old nymphomaniacs...

re: #228 nikis-knight

I wonder what's going there to attract all the cops. I suppose we'll find out later. I still can't find any updates on the Black Panther thing in Philly.

re: #237 BigLeeH

That is a horrible, horrible story.

re: #195 mahatma coat

thanks ......I'm a bit anal about spelling and grammer

Like I said it's a common one. One of my writer friends even got that one wrong until I mentioned it.

re: #190 Areozol

I repeat: my friend from Colorado had just said, that Dems are providing buses for poor people, in order to shuttle them into voting stations.

Can anyone conform this?

What's wrong with that? The GOP does it also.

Ah, NOW the "heart" is back!

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

The funny thing is that I know my vote, while heartfelt, was all but useless, since it will be swamped by the Obamanoid majority in my neighborhood.

But so are the votes of most of the Obamanoids that stood in line with me and surrounded me at the polling place--and I don't think they realize that their votes, too, are useless.

New York--New York City, at any rate--is not really in play. It will go overwhelmingly Democrat, because it always does, and probably the state will too. The huge Obamanoid turnout is, therefore, total waste.

It is in the battleground states that votes count, on both sides. Good luck and G-dspeed to the Lizards, and to the other McCain voters, who are voting there.

Every vote still matters.
Bush was effectively denied legitimacy during his first term of office because of his narrow margin of victory and loss of the popular vote.
While no matter what happens, Obama isn't going to get the same sort of press excoriation that Bush did, the lower his absolute vote count, the lesser his mandate.

re: #220 Eowyn2

Whats TBI and LE

Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

Law Enforcement.

re: #216 NomadOfNorad

conservative christians?I'll spend the rest of the evening trying to figure out the moral acrobatics involved in that one

Meanwhile Chuck Schumer is salivating over the prospect of silencing political opposition with the fascist/anti-first amendment/anti-free speech"fairness doctrine".
[Link: thehill.com...]

Democrats are cowards- they don't want to debate the competition - they want to kill it. Democrats like Chuck Schumer are Anti-first amendment bastards.

re: #150 jwpaine

Man, I'd vote for Thomas Sowell in a New York Minute. He has at least as much executive experience as The One, plus, he's got that whole not-even-close-to-being-a-marxist thing working for him.

Sorry, but neither Steele, Keyes nor Sowell are REAL black people, just like Sarah Palin isn't a REAL woman.

Only democrats can be black or female.

Oh, I am so NOT surprised by this.
Anyone with half a brain (which disqualifies most liberals) could see this coming.

re: #241 stonewater

Rush just said that Senator Moran from VA referred to the simplistic Republican notion that if people have wealth, they are entitled to keep it!

I keep thinking I'll wake up---people really can't be saying this stuff...

I live in Moran's district - I never saw one add for his opponent Mark Elmore - altho' he did show up at our polling place at abut 7:30 to shake hands and say hello.

re: #226 Charles

Sorry, no. I have a real aversion to using the state constitution to regulate social issues. It's flat wrong, in my opinion.

I'd don't like like it much either. However, this issue is going to be settled by the legal hammer being swung. When that is going to happen, my main concern is to make sure that my side is the one swinging the hammer.

The New Black Panthers are nothing to take lightly. They paid us a visit in ATL wehn a police drug raid went bad and the officers killed an elderly lady.
Since I use the commutter train service here to go back and forth to work I got to meet some of these guys up close. Fortunately the police also stepped up there presence and no the problem didn't get out of hand.

re: #175 Desert Dog

AZ is one of the states that requires a government issued ID to vote. Why all states don't do that is beyond me. I think absentee ballots have the potential to be abused more than walk in votes. You would think that a country as technologically advanced as ours could come up with a safe and secure way to vote.......I would say we are not even close to that right now.

I'd prefer using paper ballots and indelible ink on our fingertips. We don't need technology to solve every perceived problems. Sometimes simplicity has it's advantages.

re: #226 Charles

the video of the Fox segment in question is online

re: #205 Killgore Trout

1st, this isn't an issue of IF the Gov should get involved with marriage. As it is NOW, they do. If you wish to put something on the ballot that states that the Gov will no longer have anything to do with ALL marriage, then fine. I'll consider that issue when it comes up.

That being said, the State HAS to be involved in marriage if it is going to give benefits to those that are married. Remove benefits, and I'm with you...sort of.

The normal response is to just let "Marriage" be a choice between the populace and keep the Gov out of it. This sounds good till you put it into practice. Who would be in charge of marriage? The "Church"? The strongest option without Government involvement is to leave it up to "The Church". But, then which "Churches" are acceptable? All of them? Satanism? White Power?, Rasta? etc.? Then what do you do about those that are Atheists, or have no "church"? Leave it up to the individual? In that instance, a person could marry his dog and get benefits, marry 3 other people and get benefits, marry his best friend, his sister, his brother, etc. It never ends. Maybe it shouldn't end; maybe people should have the right to marry their dog. But if this is the case, then marriage is meaningless.

re: #124 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not being in CA myself the one good thing about Prop 8 is that it might help drive a much larger voter turnout, thus potentially upsetting an Obama blowout.

I voted YES, only because it under minds the purpose of voting, if the majority of the people of California don't want to allow same sex marriages, as the did in 2003, so be it. If the people vote and it turns out they do want to allow it so be it. I cant sit idly by and watch 4 judges overturn the will of the people it ruins the whole concept of a majority vote.

Why does Obama get a free pass when he openly states that "marriage is between one man and one woman".

Just curious?

re: #244 nukezdoc

Please, G-d, let it be a colony of 21 year old nymphomaniacs...

Market forces usually mean that the ones who WANT to get naked, aren't the ones that people want to look at.

If there were hot 21 year old women who wanted to get naked, they'd be doing that in strip clubs to make several thousand dollars a night, not at some polling place for nothing.

Yikes
From Fox earlier (rough transcript):

we got a phone call that there was intimidation going on. i walked up to the door, two gentlemen in black panther guard, one brandishing a nightstick, standing in front of the door. they closed ranks as i walked up. i am a veteran, that does not scare me. i went inside and found full- watchers, they said they had been here for an hour — i went inside and found poll-watchers, they said that they had said not to let people outside because black people are going to win no matter what. at that point, i spoke to him, we would not get into a fistfight, i said, and i called the police.

re: #238 saylorfam

Welcome to Philadelphia... Unfortunately, this story is not at all surprising to me. Having grown up in the area this behavior is all too common. Remember this is the city that brought you Mumia and the MOVE group who I am very familiar with. Also do not forget the former Mayor John Street and his brother Milton. Milton was given sweetheart contracts for the concessions at the newly built Philly Airport. The City has become a hopeless mess. They have been trying to institute "Regionalization" and have been trying to figure out a way to get the four suburban counties to send money into that urban cesspool. It is only eclipsed by Camden NJ.

Remember, we now live out side philly . . . . . , where were you when the MOVE houses burned?

re: #207 armytramp

Just got this in my email. This is written by someone I know. It's not forwarded. This incident would have happened in the Tidewater area of Virginia:

Our touchscreen machines here have a large print option. Perhaps that was what your friend emailed you about. I have no way of knowing, but it could be possible.

re: #244 nukezdoc

Please, G-d, let it be a colony of 21 year old nymphomaniacs...

Aint... gonna... happen...

Most nudists here in the States are mundane, ordinary, run-of-the-mill people. Fat, thin, slightly-chubby, and everything in between. And a true nudist is someone who sees the nude body as about as ordinary and non-sexual as a fence-post or a boulder. No nymphomaniacs.

In fact, a nymphomaniac would likely be tossed out on his or her ear post haste.

re: #241 stonewater

Rush just said that Senator Moran from VA referred to the simplistic Republican notion that if people have wealth, they are entitled to keep it!

I keep thinking I'll wake up---people really can't be saying this stuff...