Video: Black Panthers Menace Voters in Philly
Via Election Journal, video of Black Panthers in paramilitary dress menacing voters with a nightstick in Philadelphia, before the police arrived and put a stop to it.
Via Election Journal, video of Black Panthers in paramilitary dress menacing voters with a nightstick in Philadelphia, before the police arrived and put a stop to it.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:10:12am |
Same here legalpad! I would *cause a disturbance* lol
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:10:56am |
Hey, go college kid, go!
"You have a nightstick."
"Well, you have a camera phone."
"Yes. I have a camera phone. Which is not a weapon."
Outstanding.
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:39am |
This is that "Civilian Security Force" Obama must be talking about!
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obageegee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:46am |
"I'm sorry I spoiled your Black Panther party"
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Irene NYC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:47am |
These BPs You're looking at the core of Obama's National Civilian Corps.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:56am |
Disgusting thugs.
/Browsing now on Safari, btw. Still haven't decided if I like it yet.
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Spellcheck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:07am |
Creeps me out, just like a lot about this election.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:15am |
re: #4 Cognito
Hey, go college kid, go!
"You have a nightstick."
"Well, you have a camera phone."
"Yes. I have a camera phone. Which is not a weapon."
Outstanding.
Are those quotes from the tape? (So video at work. Sad Panda.)
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:25am |
Black Panthers Menace Voters in Philly
Toss $600 billion at it and call it a Civilian Security Force.
/think I'm kidding?
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bushleague Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:26am |
re: #4 Cognito
Hey, go college kid, go!
"You have a nightstick."
"Well, you have a camera phone."
"Yes. I have a camera phone. Which is not a weapon."
Outstanding.
Was that really the exchange? (No video at work) If so, new hero for facing down what I imagine to be a pretty scary dude.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:36am |
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:48am |
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:12:58am |
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:03am |
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hoffmonster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:11am |
Wow, can't wait to see how the MSM spins this one.
I bet they will say that having a camera outside a polling place is just as intimidating as a Black Panther in full dress standing outside with a night stick
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:18am |
You're racist for even posting that video Charles. After all, only whites can stand accused of voter intimidation and thuggery. /sarc
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:01am |
CNN nope.
ABC nope
NBC nope
CBS nope
NYT nope.
I guess it never happened.
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rabidsquirrel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:26am |
It's Philly. They might be poll officials...
/sarc
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:29am |
re: #12 Killian Bundy
Toss $600 billion at it and call it a Civilian Security Force.
/think I'm kidding?
No, unfortunately you're not.
So far, the beneficiaries of Obama's largesse with public, donated, or other-peoples' money has largely been an assortment of thugs and leftist groups like ACORN.
That's the MO of these groups. I can absolutely see Federal cash going to Nation of Islam, New Black Panthers, ACORN, and a whole bunch of other questionable organizations under an Obama administration.
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:35am |
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bushleague Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:30am |
re: #17 Cognito
Yep
OUTSTANDING! I can't wait to see that one. (I need a cell card for my PC so I can watch video at work :-( ...)
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:41am |
What the fu---ck is going on in this country?
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:45am |
re: #23 JCM
It literally just happened, dude. Give it a moment.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:15:46am |
Okay, it's off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of NO [EXPLETIVE DELETED] AL FRANKEN!
/should be able to catch the post lunch lull, if I don't make it back, don't bother sending a search party
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:03am |
But, but, but...the REPUBLICANS are stealing the election!
/
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legalpad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:08am |
I hear of comments on the radio in which someone has some concern or consideration as to whether some people are mad or violent because Obama loses. F**k them. They lie, they threaten, they falsify, they are no where near a majority. They have foreign money, they have the media, they have Hollywood -
I have sworn to defend The Constitution of The United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I will do exactly that. Go ahead, looneys. Riot. Kill. Burn. Make my day.
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hoffmonster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:16am |
re: #23 JCM
CNN nope.
ABC nope
NBC nope
CBS nope
NYT nope.I guess it never happened.
there is no right wing nut job video yet,
when that happens, they'll come around.
I'm getting dizzy already for the media spin
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:19am |
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mamashawna Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:31am |
Hard to keep up today...got two tabs open to LGF, Rush on the radio, Fox going in the bedroom. Would have the tv on in the living room if it didn't screw up the a.m. signal!
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:32am |
What happened to these two?
Were they actually charged with a crime, or just scattered?
I think if I were to simply stand outside ANY building in Philly with a nightstick (let alone a polling place), I'd be arrested.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:33am |
A light being shown on nefarious deeds is as bad as a wielding a weapon?
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:50am |
re: #30 MandyManners
Nightstick = camera phone?
New and improved moral equivalence, for the digital age.
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right_wing2 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:57am |
There won't be any endless stories about voter intimidation from the media over THIS.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:58am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:59am |
Knowing Stinky's pipe wrench is heavier than that thug's nightstick, I shall bite my tongue here.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:03am |
Apparently the black panther on FOX live now is a Lieutenant? Who knew they had ranks?
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:29am |
re: #29 buzzsawmonkey
Black Panthers = gangsters with thin, greasy Marxist coating
Now with Maoist Sparkles!
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Athos Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:31am |
re: #29 buzzsawmonkey
Black Panthers =
gangstersracist thugs with thin, greasy Marxist coating
It needed that edit.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:17:38am |
re: #42 CyanSnowHawk
New and improved moral equivalence, for the digital age.
It ain't working. It ain't working at all.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:10am |
re: #42 CyanSnowHawk
New and improved moral equivalence, for the digital age.
The best part is that the little lens actually did a lot more than the nightstick ever could.
The camera phone is mightier than the nightstick.
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mamashawna Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:22am |
re: #44 MandyManners
We're pushing back.
I hope so! People are getting FED up. I have been in email wars lately because I refuse to remain silent anymore. FUCK THAT! You go Mandy!
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:25am |
re: #46 Nevergiveup
Apparently the black panther on FOX live now is a Lieutenant? Who knew they had ranks?
Of course they do. The BPP is a paramilitary group.
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uncle_monkey Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:30am |
I'm sure that when Obama implements his Civilian Militia, they'll have much "friendlier" looking uniforms.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:40am |
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:49am |
re: #23 JCM
CNN nope.
ABC nope
NBC nope
CBS nope
NYT nope.I guess it never happened.
It's big news - but it doesn't fit the meme, the template, the pro-democrat agenda.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:55am |
re: #46 Nevergiveup
Apparently the black panther on FOX live now is a Lieutenant? Who knew they had ranks?
"We're Here to Organize Your Community"
/1936 Germany
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turn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:06am |
re: #12 Killian Bundy
Toss $600 billion at it and call it a Civilian Security Force.
/think I'm kidding?
I've got a sinking feeling things are going to get pretty ugly in some parts of the US late tonight. And no, I think you are serious. Imagine if the Black Panthers somehow got government funding, scary thought but not out of the question under O's watch.
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:12am |
re: #33 Cognito
It literally just happened, dude. Give it a moment.
How fast and how long did the media harp on the FALSE rumors of cops doing the same thing in FL 2000?
If this was skinheads with McCain buttons it would be all over.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:25am |
I would have liked to see a group of concerned citizens do the "Buzz Aldrin" on these lowlife thugs.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:31am |
re: #52 mamashawna
I hope so! People are getting FED up. I have been in email wars lately because I refuse to remain silent anymore. FUCK THAT! You go Mandy!
Push back no matter the venue.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:34am |
Oh, look. A Civilian Security Force. Once Obama get in, I'm sure they'll be getting updated equipment like APCs and automatic weapons so they can properly perform their duties.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:44am |
That idea about EVERYONE showing up at their polling places with cameras rolling is a good one, I think.
At my polling place, there was a little old lady observer with a clipboard asking questions. She was probably every bit of 75 years young. Looked over at her clipboard, and it said "NAACP" on there.
She was asking a few black voters in line if they were unnecessarily delayed, how long it took them to vote, and if anyone's attempt to vote was "challenged".
It was great, actually.
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:48am |
Excuse my potty mouth but -
Christiane Amanpour is a total f*cking moron.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:53am |
re: #41 MandyManners
A light being shown on nefarious deeds is as bad as a wielding a weapon?
It is if you are the one doing the nefarious deed, or holding the weapon.
/Get a little perspective Mandy.
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hoffmonster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:19:56am |
re: #37 hoffmonster
there is no right wing nut job video yet,
when that happens, they'll come around.I'm getting dizzy already for the media spin
Ohh! I forgot
They haven't dug up dirt on the guy shooting the video yet, give em time.
When that happens you can count on it being shown.
I bet it's happening right now.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:20:55am |
The inmates are taking over the asylum in Philadelphia? A certified poll watcher who is a "Black Panther" in a militant uniform. Oh yeah, that's a good idea. Weren't the Nazi's guarding the Reichstag?
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:11am |
Republicans have been doing it forever!1 So wat!1!9-8=1
/Moonbat
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:21am |
re: #60 turn
I've got a sinking feeling things are going to get pretty ugly in some parts of the US late tonight. And no, I think you are serious. Imagine if the Black Panthers somehow got government funding, scary thought but not out of the question under O's watch.
If Obama loses and there are riots, his political career will be trashed, race relations will be set back ANOTHER twenty years, and the Dems will have a major black eye coming into the next administration.
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Quilly Mammoth Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:25am |
re: #50 Cognito
The best part is that the little lens actually did a lot more than the nightstick ever could.
The camera phone is mightier than the nightstick.
Which is why the first thing Obama and Schumer and the rest will do is work as hard as they can to suppress such speech. 1984 might becoming a few decades late.
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Buck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:31am |
"He is not part of my campaign, he has never been involved in my campaign, he is not an advisor, and he will not advise me in the White House." Obama said.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:54am |
I'm sure there are Klansmen guarding other polling stations.
/MSM
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:25am |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:22:49am |
So I can lolligag around my local polling place with a McCain T-shirt and my new M1911 "cocked and locked" in an Uncle Mike's holster, right?
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:01am |
re: #69 CyanSnowHawk
It is if you are the one doing the nefarious deed, or holding the weapon.
/Get a little perspective Mandy.
Oh, I have loads of perspective. I just don't use / tags.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:12am |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:14am |
re: #71 opnion
Yo yo, y'all, the revolution has begun
I thought the revolution would not be televised.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:20am |
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:31am |
re: #20 lawhawk
You're racist for even posting that video Charles. After all, only whites can stand accused of voter intimidation and thuggery. /sarc
You don't need the sarcasm anymore. 'Shit's got real' nowadays.
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yesandno Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:50am |
re: #46 Nevergiveup
Apparently the black panther on FOX live now is a Lieutenant? Who knew they had ranks?
Is there an Academy?
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Spider Mensch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:04am |
"mind if we dance wif yo dates?"
/animal house
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wright1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:12am |
re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Oh, look. A Civilian Security Force. Once Obama get in, I'm sure they'll be getting updated equipment like APCs and automatic weapons so they can properly perform their duties.
"Welcome to an Obamination - Barack's Republican Guard will be like the Iraq Republican Guard, thugs and punks.
Not to worry though - keep on voting America: Go McCain/Palin!
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:19am |
If I didn't just see this disgusting scene on FOX live with my own eyes I would not believe it. So I see that Philadelphia is officially occupied territory.
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footballrules Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:32am |
I thought Halloween was last Friday! I would have offered them a tootsie roll.
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:32am |
re: #74 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Hi there! Hozzit goin'?
Home with a little one with a rotovirus (lots of poop). Cleaning the kitchen, and keeping on eye out here.
It's all good.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:40am |
re: #88 yesandno
Is there an Academy?
Why yes, yes there is. Read David Horowitz's book "The Professors."
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:45am |
This detestable thug needs to spend some time in jail, but not today, otherwise he will become someone whose vote was disenfranchised rather that a miscreant to the press.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:46am |
re: #8 looking closely
Disgusting thugs.
/Browsing now on Safari, btw. Still haven't decided if I like it yet.
I'm using safari too, right now. there are features on firefox that I like better, but overall, my experience has been that browsing is better and easier and smoother with safari.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:54am |
re: #82 MandyManners
Oh, I have loads of perspective. I just don't use / tags.
Which is one of the things that makes you so much fun here.
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opnion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:24:59am |
re: #76 looking closely
If Obama loses and there are riots, his political career will be trashed, race relations will be set back ANOTHER twenty years, and the Dems will have a major black eye coming into the next administration.
There is all kinds of security in downown Chicago right now.
Swat teams & Homeland Security at strategic areas.
Hey, these are Obama people down here to celebrate, what's the problem?
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:00am |
Time to go vote. I'm wearing my red, cashmere twin-set. Not Commie red but, Reagan/Palin red.
Later, taters.
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izbliss Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:10am |
Wait, I thought only republicans/conservatives were involved in voter intimidation.
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Noam Chumpski Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:27am |
It's been said, but I gotta repeat it.
Future headline:
11/4/2010, AP: Civilian Defense Force (CDF) to Over See All Voting Sites. Political Party "Watchers" No Longer Needed, or Legal.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:34am |
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:46am |
re: #85 Occasional Reader
Plausible. My iPhone has a Lightsaber option.
Damn Lucas. He'll license anything, won't he?
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:49am |
re: #29 buzzsawmonkey
Black Panthers = gangsters with thin, greasy Marxist coating
And don't forget the venomously Jew-hating sprinkles on top. They have been known at our lovely "ANSWER Coalition"-sponsored rallies here in DC to give speeches that culminate in a rousing chorus of "Death to the Jews". Really.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:25:50am |
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Dave the..... Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:15am |
Black Panthers? What next, KKK? Go go dancers?
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yesandno Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:37am |
re: #95 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Why yes, yes there is. Read David Horowitz's book "The Professors."
ding, ding, ding...we have a winner!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:46am |
Koskidz think it's funny...
Photo Evidence of Republican Voters Being Blocked at Polls
By now we've all heard the reports from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh that the Black Panthers are blocking would GOP voters at certain polling stations in Philadelphia. This is not the only attempt by defunct radical groups and social movements disenfranchising GOP Voters.And I have photo evidence!
On the recommended list. Sad.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:26:51am |
Oh yes, the city of brotherly love. Spent 14 years just outside of it. It's how I went from being a sweet, naive misplaced Californian, into a (when necessary) aggressive, tenacious, bitch on wheels.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:03am |
re: #107 Dave the...
Black Panthers? What next, KKK? Go go dancers?
Actually go-go dancers might be fun.
You know. Exit pole, and all that.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:05am |
*** You got to read this ***
Ok, I am in downtown Denver, standing in line at the pharmacy at Denver Health and Medical (country hospital) to pick up my blood pressure medication.
A black dude (is that racist?) behind me gets a phone call on his cell phone, evidently from a friend who just voted.
I can tell by the conversation that his friend, for what ever reason, was concerned that Obama may NOT win the election.
The guy behind me tell his friend...
"If Obama doesn't win, they are going to be seeing terrorist. The homeland type of terrorist. They'll be tripping alright, they'll be tripping."
G-d help me, this is true. It backs up some of the rhetoric that we have been hearing about trouble if Obama loses.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:06am |
re: #100 MandyManners
Time to go vote. I'm wearing my red, cashmere twin-set. Not Commie red but, Reagan/Palin red.
VOTER INTIMIDATION!
Guards, SEIZE HER!
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:20am |
re: #107 Dave the...
Black Panthers? What next, KKK? Go go dancers?
That statement reminds me of the old joke. Which one doesn't belng? What do you have against go go dancers?
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jetprop Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:21am |
Rush talking about the video...
Playing the audio..
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:26am |
I'm posting this again because I'm still flabbergasted that democrats are finally dropping the mask. The democrat party is Marxist. Period.
For the last seven years we have had the highest corporate profit ever in American history. . . But it hasn't been shared, and that's the problem, because we have been guided by a Republican Administration who believes in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it. They have an antipathy toward the means of redistributing wealth. And they may be able to sustain that for a while, but it doesn't work in the long run.
--Virginia congressman Jim Moran (D).
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:30am |
re: #23 JCM
CNN nope.
ABC nope
NBC nope
CBS nope
NYT nope.I guess it never happened.
Drudge at least is reporting it.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:40am |
Ah, darn it. "Poll dancers" would have been funnier.
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Noam Chumpski Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:40am |
re: #76 looking closely
If Obama loses and there are riots, his political career will be trashed, race relations will be set back ANOTHER twenty years, and the Dems will have a major black eye coming into the next administration.
Mentioned that to a buddy last night: If African Americans riot (whether Obama wins or loses) it will be a long time before either party will get excited to nominate another Af. American.
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Spenser (with an S) Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:27:43am |
Just got an email that my copy of The Lives of Others is in at the library. I think I'm afraid to watch it after this video.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:15am |
re: #99 opnion
There is all kinds of security in downown Chicago right now.
Swat teams & Homeland Security at strategic areas.
Hey, these are Obama people down here to celebrate, what's the problem?
He is the great unifier, right?
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:27am |
re: #46 Nevergiveup
Apparently the black panther on FOX live now is a Lieutenant? Who knew they had ranks?
I saw that. My grandfather and a favorite client of mine were both US Army Lieutenants. THEY earned their bars storming the beach heads in France.
That disgusts me. It is a direct slap in the face to those who EARN those and pay for them in blood.
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:28am |
"Well, you have a camera phone, so it is the same thing."
To us, weapons are threats.
To them, means to expose their actions to the world are threats.
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pegcity Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:57am |
re: #113 Walter L. Newton
id say shutter yourself in tonight, cause it could get ugly, Obama has promised the world and if he loses will probably encourage an african type "protests". I can't see him accepting defeat, he would rather see America burn.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:58am |
re: #94 JCM
Home with a little one with a rotovirus (lots of poop). Cleaning the kitchen, and keeping on eye out here.
It's all good.
Then I should NOT quip ... "stay loose!" ... right?
Heh.
Got a friend in yesterday (called to tell him about registration being open). Very good man. Hardware EE. He's not commenting yet. I'll "introduce" you sometime.
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opnion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:03am |
re: #84 Killgore Trout
I thought the revolution would not be televised.
The whole reign of the Dear Leader will be televised.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:09am |
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:25am |
re: #110 Killgore Trout
Koskidz think it's funny...
Photo Evidence of Republican Voters Being Blocked at Polls
On the recommended list. Sad.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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winston06 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:37am |
Does 2nd Amendment apply to these thugs? I mean could a concerned citizen use 2nd amendment on the thugs?
Plus I hope McCain wins, otherwise this will be the future face of America: Black Fascism
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:40am |
re: #61 JCM
How fast and how long did the media harp on the FALSE rumors of cops doing the same thing in FL 2000?
If this was skinheads with McCain buttons it would be all over.
Of course.
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:49am |
but wait... I'm confused... I thought the Black Panthers wanted to eliminate the Presidency?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:03am |
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:11am |
re: #46 Nevergiveup
Apparently the black panther on FOX live now is a Lieutenant? Who knew they had ranks?
Most gangbangers, Panthers included, have "ranks" which determine where one fits in the heirarchy. RICO should be used on these assholes.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:24am |
I went to uptick post 90, and the little twirly thing on that post is staying there perpetually. Anyone else getting that sort of thing?
New Comments button still works, though.
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:33am |
re: #113 Walter L. Newton
Obama and the democrats have set race relations back 50 years.
Are there small pockets of backwards racism in this nation? sure. but for the most part this nation is post-racial. Not any more.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:44am |
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A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:30:47am |
Well, good morning all. Its Wednesday here. Have been praying for the Lord to have mercy on your great nation and for voters to be moved to vote McCain.
Dont like the video. What I see is:
Obama wins, Black Panthers hit the streets with night sticks "its our turn!"
Obama loses, Black Panthers hit the streets with night sticks "its should be our turn!"
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:01am |
re: #132 Thanos
but wait... I'm confused... I thought the Black Panthers wanted to eliminate the Presidency?
And electing Obama to that post isn't a step in that direction?
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chukardog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:05am |
what a couple of fucking dipshit looking mooks. Sorry, im not intimidated, look at me crossways and I'll shove that nightstick up your arse and turn you into a panthersicle. I'm the mellowest dude on the planet but I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:34am |
re: #133 Fat Jolly Penguin
I'm disappointed Osama bin Laden didn't issue his customary pre-election video. I guess he assumed everyone knows his leanings.
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hazzyday Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:39am |
Voted at the polling place. Lots of people there. Also a stream of people dropping absentee ballots. There was a choice of Electronic touch pad voting which was slow and had a wait time, or fill out a ballot with no wait time but a person was at every booth. Then you slide your ballot into an optical counting machine. No Shenanigans here.
I like that in the US we can work towards a standard of peaceful and fair elections where each person has one vote and casts it fairly. No violence.
I was excited to vote this year. I never like the absentee thing. I like to go to a polling place and pull a lever.
There was no ID check. I did sign my name to a roll and I believe that is how they would check the validity of my vote if it came into question.
My polling place in Wasington state was well organized and staffed.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:42am |
re: #135 NomadOfNorad
I went to uptick post 90, and the little twirly thing on that post is staying there perpetually. Anyone else getting that sort of thing?
New Comments button still works, though.
Yep. It happens to me sometimes.
And sometimes, my plus and minus buttons don't even work at all.
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:53am |
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ladycatnip Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:06am |
I'm reposting my comment from Election Day, Thread 1, now that I realize it's a dead thread. After watching this video, I am definitely uneasy.
#297 ladycatnip
My husband and I just voted. There were no lines, but for the first time in 20+ years of living here, our polling place was completely run by African Americans. Usually the volunteers are all [white] senior citizens. Neither being racist, nor being one who subscribes easily to conspiracy-thinking, I have to say the uneasy thought of ACORN placing their people everywhere crossed my mind.
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Meremortal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:06am |
Speaking of attempts to erm, influence voters, we have seen nor heard from Osama or Zawahiri. There was a short diatribe against Bush and the Republicans from Al Qaeda recently, but it was generic, and could have been written by a Democrat except for religious references.
The question is: Osama and Z-man staying out of Obama's way, or just unable to publish?
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witness Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:14am |
re: #127 opnion
You think. I think NOT. Fairness doctrine looms...
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redstateredneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:15am |
If I post, will it make my page not be wonky?
/this is a test, only a test...
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:16am |
re: #120 Noam Chumpski
Mentioned that to a buddy last night: If African Americans riot (whether Obama wins or loses) it will be a long time before either party will get excited to nominate another Af. American.
I have a feeling its the last time for a while, regardless.
If Obama loses, there will be massive disenchantment.
If Obama wins, there will be massive disenchantment. . .it will just a year or two.
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jrdidner Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:20am |
Not only is this an indication of Obama's Civil Defense Corp, but given his interpretation of the 2nd amendment (and the judges he will appoint), they will be the only ones with guns since they will be the only accepted 'well regulated militia'.
Be afraid, be very afraid...
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:29am |
re: #141 chukardog
what a couple of fucking dipshit looking mooks. Sorry, im not intimidated, look at me crossways and I'll shove that nightstick up your arse and turn you into a panthersicle. I'm the mellowest dude on the planet but I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
love it.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:30am |
re: #112 Cognito
Actually go-go dancers might be fun.
You know. Exit pole, and all that.
Vote twice, and you get to go to the VIP Room.
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zombie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:38am |
I was just about to email this Black Panther video to Charles, and before I did, I checked LGF -- and it's already a thread!
I've really got to be on my toes more.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:43am |
re: #103 reine.de.tout
GAK!
Howa doin'?
Voted yet?
Hi reine!
I'm doin great. The polls opened at 6:00 a.m. and I voted 45 minutes later. I'm hearing lines are long all over the place. Hope most of them are conservatives. :) Not likely here in Chicago, but I can dream.
Our friend Joline is seeking relief from his rheumy. And should get some solid treament going on.
How are you?
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:56am |
re: #121 Spenser (with an S)
Don't be afraid.. it's quite a good movie..
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:57am |
re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Then I should NOT quip ... "stay loose!" ... right?
Heh.Got a friend in yesterday (called to tell him about registration being open). Very good man. Hardware EE. He's not commenting yet. I'll "introduce" you sometime.
Been a foster parent for 4 years, on our 8th kid, all little. It's amazing what you get used too...
Tell him to start posting!
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River Rat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:07am |
I voted early this morning in Northern Michigan, kinda wish I lived in Ohio so I could go vote again, and again and...
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kayawanee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:14am |
They're just tryin' to ensure a fair election.
/sarc
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:15am |
re: #138 A Kiwi Infidel
Hi, Kiwi!
Since it's already Wednesday there, tell us who won the election.
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Sharmutah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:26am |
This is just the beginning. A can of worms has been split wide open again. The genie has been let out of the bottle again. Change, change, change...
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:28am |
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:49am |
re: #141 chukardog
what a couple of fucking dipshit looking mooks. Sorry, im not intimidated, look at me crossways and I'll shove that nightstick up your arse and turn you into a panthersicle. I'm the mellowest dude on the planet but I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
We hear the mellowness shining through!
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Noam Chumpski Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:49am |
re: #130 winston06
Does 2nd Amendment apply to these thugs? I mean could a concerned citizen use 2nd amendment on the thugs?
Plus I hope McCain wins, otherwise this will be the future face of America: Black Fascism
As I understand it, there's no real 2nd Amendments Right left in Philly.
This is a terrific example for a very strong 2nd Amendment Right that is attributable to all Americans in all locations and that is largely unobstructed by Government.
See how easy it is for just 2 thugs to intimidate an entire area? Classic.
Not to be a tool, but have you joined the NRA today? :)
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:53am |
re: #151 redstateredneck
If I post, will it make my page not be wonky?
/this is a test, only a test...
/pop quiz!
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Dr. Slogan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:33:53am |
This is a preview for things to come. This is how it starts. Tonight those who don't see it coming will make us a king instead of electing a president:
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:00am |
re: #136 FrogMarch
Obama and the democrats have set race relations back 50 years.
Are there small pockets of backwards racism in this nation? sure. but for the most part this nation is post-racial. Not any more.
And I don't know if it is grass roots grown, or some actual encouragement from the Dems.
I suspect it's home grown. The clever thing about Obama and his campaign, he has managed to throw down just the right ideas that cause people to take a lead and go further with the idea, all at the same time, Obama has enough distance to claim plausible denialability that he or his campaign has started anything.
It's dangerous.
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Buck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:01am |
Something to think about. Orwell got it wrong.
In 1984, big brother watched us... in fact due to technology like camera phones, we the people watch the government and everyone else.
Reality is that everyone is carrying a video camera today.
How weird is that?
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harrylook Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:07am |
I've never wanted a gun in my house, but now I'm definitely applying for my license. Like, tomorrow.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:09am |
re: #149 Meremortal
Speaking of attempts to erm, influence voters, we have seen nor heard from Osama or Zawahiri. There was a short diatribe against Bush and the Republicans from Al Qaeda recently, but it was generic, and could have been written by a Democrat except for religious references.
The question is: Osama and Z-man staying out of Obama's way, or just unable to publish?
It is harder, although not impossible, to publish when you are taking a dirt nap.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:10am |
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baxtrice Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:20am |
Good Grief! Where's the cops? Oh wait, that's the REAL intimidation. /sarc
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:41am |
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Joan Not of Arc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:34:52am |
That's called intimidation. Call the police, put them in jail and move along.
What the hell is this? Colombia? North Korea? Zimbabwe?
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porkchop Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:01am |
Is this what we can expect from Obama's Civilan National Security Force?
Is anyone as concerned about this ? It scares the beejeebies out of me.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:02am |
re: #138 A Kiwi Infidel
Well, good morning all. Its Wednesday here. Have been praying for the Lord to have mercy on your great nation and for voters to be moved to vote McCain.
Dont like the video. What I see is:
Obama wins, Black Panthers hit the streets with night sticks "its our turn!"
Obama loses, Black Panthers hit the streets with night sticks "its should be our turn!"
Go back and see my #113, I heard it right out and personal this morning.
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:10am |
re: #153 jrdidner
Not only is this an indication of Obama's Civil Defense Corp, but given his interpretation of the 2nd amendment (and the judges he will appoint), they will be the only ones with guns since they will be the only accepted 'well regulated militia'.
Be afraid, be very afraid...
Guns? What guns? I don't have any guns!
If Obama overreaches that far in the first 2 years the '10 midterms will make '94 look mild.
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Spenser (with an S) Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:10am |
re: #158 Zippy_Slug
re: #121 Spenser (with an S)
Don't be afraid.. it's quite a good movie..
Good, but scary, right? Especially in light of the above video?
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:14am |
Feature request: Can we get an icon to insert the text, "If it was a Republican..."?
I think this would save a lot of time and bandwidth.
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Dead Man Voting Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:33am |
re: #76 looking closely
If Obama loses and there are riots, his political career will be trashed, race relations will be set back ANOTHER twenty years, and the Dems will have a major black eye coming into the next administration.
/racist
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:43am |
re: #138 A Kiwi Infidel
Well, good morning all. Its Wednesday here. Have been praying for the Lord to have mercy on your great nation and for voters to be moved to vote McCain.
Dont like the video. What I see is:
Obama wins, Black Panthers hit the streets with night sticks "its our turn!"
Obama loses, Black Panthers hit the streets with night sticks "its should be our turn!"
That's basically what I told my daughter yesterday and she said it sounded racist. She is in D.C. and has promised to stay in or go to a house party tonight rather than be in a bar or on the streets, even though she thinks I'm crazy and there will be no riots.
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Miss Trixie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:51am |
re: #141 chukardog
what a couple of fucking dipshit looking mooks. Sorry, im not intimidated, look at me crossways and I'll shove that nightstick up your arse and turn you into a panthersicle. I'm the mellowest dude on the planet but I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
*snort*
I like the way you think, mister. :D
BTW, has realwest been on today?
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readytofight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:54am |
Think what those idiots will be like if the one gets in.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:58am |
re: #157 midwestgak
Hi reine!
I'm doin great. The polls opened at 6:00 a.m. and I voted 45 minutes later. I'm hearing lines are long all over the place. Hope most of them are conservatives. :) Not likely here in Chicago, but I can dream.
Our friend Joline is seeking relief from his rheumy. And should get some solid treament going on.
How are you?
Doing great. Voted at my regular place. I can only assume that most folks who vote at my polling place vote regularly, because they seemed adequately staffed. Voted at 9 my time, no line at all. Hubby also voted against his wishes (he had a Killgore Trout take on this election, didn't want to vote at all, but I pushed it a little so he did).
I heard from Jorline, I hope he finds good treatment and some relief.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:58am |
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3 wood Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:03am |
Still nothing on this in the MSM.
But I bet the guy with the cellphone camera is already being investigated by the Gestapo, I mean the MSM.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:18am |
re: #171 Buck
Something to think about. Orwell got it wrong.
In 1984, big brother watched us... in fact due to technology like camera phones, we the people watch the government and everyone else.
Reality is that everyone is carrying a video camera today.
How weird is that?
Yep, and 1984 also featured extremely limited access to information by ordinary people. And look at this internet-thingy. Of course, a lot of people choose to be uninformed anyway, sadly.
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Arbalest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:20am |
There was a black guy, who looked to be in his 20's, hanging around outside my voting location (in N. CA) when I went in to vote earlier today.
He was within 100feet (a distance, in some states, within which political activities are prohibited) of the entrance, but said nothing, so I, and apparently everyone else, took little or no notice.
I thought it a bit strange, since I've never seen this sort of behavior at my voting location anytime in the last ~20years.
Has anyone else (besides the people in the video) noticed similar occurances? A count of similar occurances and general location might yield useful information.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:37am |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
Chicago managed to recover from the Great Fire.
It may not manage to recover from the Great Unifier.
(nitpicking) The fire was an impersonal thing which "happened" to the populace. The riots will segments of the populace "happening" to each other.
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:04am |
Here's a transcript for you poor souls who cant watch video at work:
Cameraman: Hi, I'm here in 1221 Fairmont in Philidelphia, and there's a guy here with a billy club, right here, um... So, do we have any problems here or whats going on?
Black Panther: unintelligible
Cameraman: Everything okay?
Bystander: Everythings fine
BP: whats the problem?
Cameraman: I'm just making sure...
BP: Why ya'll taking pictures?
Cameraman: I'm here, Im just a media guy, and thats all Im doing.
BP: what media are you with sir?
Cameraman: Im with University of Pennsylvania.
BP: You have a card or identification for that?
Cameraman: Who are you with, sorry
BP: I'm security
Cameraman: Ok, I mean, I'm not, I have a poll watcher certificate so I can go inside
BP: I just wonder why you come up taking pictures
Cameraman: I mean, we're, what?
BP: I'm just wondering why everybody's taking pictures, thats all.
Cameraman: Ok, I mean, I think it might be a little bit intimidating that you have a stick in your hand, thats why, you know.
BP: Who are you, who are you to decide?
Cameraman: I mean, thats a weapon. So thats why I'm a little worried.
BP: And who are you to decide?
Cameraman: I mean I am a concerned citizen and I'm just worried that you might be...
BP: And so are we
Cameraman: Ok...
BP: So are we. Thats why were here
Cameraman: Ok, but you have a nightstick in your hand.
BP: So what?
Cameraman: I mean...
BP: You've got a camera phone
Cameraman: I have a camera phone which is not a weapon
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jetprop Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:04am |
Rush talked about the vid/played audio a few minutes ago..
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:07am |
re: #156 zombie
I was just about to email this Black Panther video to Charles, and before I did, I checked LGF -- and it's already a thread!
I've really got to be on my toes more.
But ya get cramps doing that!
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pbird Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:34am |
re: #8 looking closely
Disgusting thugs.
/Browsing now on Safari, btw. Still haven't decided if I like it yet.
I can get on LGF fine with Opera but my Safari can't get the page up.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:39am |
re: #171 Buck
Something to think about. Orwell got it wrong.
In 1984, big brother watched us... in fact due to technology like camera phones, we the people watch the government and everyone else.
Reality is that everyone is carrying a video camera today.
How weird is that?
Orwell did not get it wrong. In England, for example, there is one CCTV for each 10 citizens, and many of these cameras are two way, they can talk to you, you can talk to them.
And the ability of people to watch each other so closely with cell phones and video camcorders portend just what Orwell was presenting in his book, everybody watching everyone.
Your premise is incorrect.
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:50am |
re: #181 Spenser (with an S)
Good, but scary, right? Especially in light of the above video?
Well.. the "Listeners" will just be another cog in the wheel.. along with the "security" force as illustrated above..
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witness Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:53am |
re: #175 baxtrice
Laid off due to Muni bond defaults. Its gonna get worse. Then the Nossiah will use that as an excuse to fund his SS.
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mahatma coat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:56am |
re: #117 FrogMarchre: #126 musicman
a Republican Administration who believes in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it.
Unfeckin' believable.No need to vacation in Europe any more .Its come to you!
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hermit Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:23am |
re: #184 Intrepid
Crap - stupid spinny ball.
:-(
...ride a painted pony watch the spinnin' wheel tuuurn
/tried to resist - I swear
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Last Mohican Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:28am |
re: #191 CyanSnowHawk
There goes the Miami vote.
I think maybe the Cuban-American vote was lost when that Obama campaign worker turned up with a Che Guevara poster in her office (and Obama didn't mind one bit).
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:31am |
re: #192 3 wood
Still nothing on this in the MSM.
But I bet the guy with the cellphone camera is already being investigated by the Gestapo, I mean the MSM.
"He's not really a licensed journalist! He owes back taxes!"
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WrathofG-d Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:59am |
The Camera Phone is Mightier Than The Club
?
ot:
3rd "Free Gaza" boat to include EU Lawmakers.
& similarly:
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ziggyelman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:12am |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:22am |
re: #113 Walter L. Newton
The problem is that all the polls indicate McCain is in for an epic ass kicking of historical proportions tonight. If he does win it's going to be very difficult to make it look credible.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:32am |
It is amazing the speed information has these days. I love the intertubes. Thank you Algore.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:33am |
NEWS FLASH/RE-EDUCATION CAMP SPECIAL:
Attention all lizards,
For the sake of new new mindset that we MAY all be required to adopt, please refrain from referring to a certain brushy long-tailed, nut-hoarding, birdseed-raiding rodent as a "squirrel".
On his program this morning, Rush Limbaugh referred to Nobama as a (GASP) "little squirrel"
This now means that the S***L word is CODE for a Marxist/Leninist/socialist/communist/every kind of "-ist" who also happens to be seeking the office of POTUS. Oh yeah, can't forget (in a whisper) "...that he's black".
From this moment forward, you are to refer to the aforementioned member of the rodent family as a creature that is simply living its life in the way that the Dear Leader asks, nay, commands us how to live - by enjoying the riches of others while exercising a minimum amount of effort. Please do not accept the false accusations that this creature has also been referred to as vermin and a nuisance.
We now allow you to resume your closely monitored and controlled conversation(s).
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CoCo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:59am |
Remind me again, what country did I wake up in this morning? McCain / Palin, God willing, will pull this out. If not, we're definitely getting a glimpse of our new Civilian Defense Force ala Obama.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:00am |
re: #194 Arbalest
Has anyone else (besides the people in the video) noticed similar occurances?
Um... of black guys just standing there breathing? Sure, lots of 'em. That's, uh, not the problem.
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:00am |
re: #141 chukardog
what a couple of fucking dipshit looking mooks. Sorry, im not intimidated, look at me crossways and I'll shove that nightstick up your arse and turn you into a panthersicle. I'm the mellowest dude on the planet but I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
Have you been hanging out with Mandy?
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:23am |
re: #190 reine.de.tout
Doing great. Voted at my regular place. I can only assume that most folks who vote at my polling place vote regularly, because they seemed adequately staffed. Voted at 9 my time, no line at all. Hubby also voted against his wishes (he had a Killgore Trout take on this election, didn't want to vote at all, but I pushed it a little so he did).
I heard from Jorline, I hope he finds good treatment and some relief.
Glad you nudged your hubby to vote, if he voted McCain that is. :)//
BTW Thanks for saying hey. It's good to see you.
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littleoldlady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:49am |
I need to introduce that kid to my kid.
/they'd get along great
//then there would be TWO mothers having heart attacks in unison...
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:53am |
re: #213 Quad Mocha Matti
NEWS FLASH/RE-EDUCATION CAMP SPECIAL:
Attention all lizards,
For the sake of new new mindset that we MAY all be required to adopt, please refrain from referring to a certain brushy long-tailed, nut-hoarding, birdseed-raiding rodent as a "squirrel".
On his program this morning, Rush Limbaugh referred to Nobama as a (GASP) "little squirrel"
This now means that the S***L word is CODE for a Marxist/Leninist/socialist/communist/eve ry kind of "-ist" who also happens to be seeking the office of POTUS. Oh yeah, can't forget (in a whisper) "...that he's black".
From this moment forward, you are to refer to the aforementioned member of the rodent family as a creature that is simply living its life in the way that the Dear Leader asks, nay, commands us how to live - by enjoying the riches of others while exercising a minimum amount of effort. Please do not accept the false accusations that this creature has also been referred to as vermin and a nuisance.
We now allow you to resume your closely monitored and controlled conversation(s).
Little Squirrel buried ACORNS all over the place... (is how Rush come up with it)
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jill e Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:26am |
City of BROTHERly love! As long as you're the right kind of brother!
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:30am |
re: #142 doppelganglander
I'm disappointed Osama bin Laden didn't issue his customary pre-election video. I guess he assumed everyone knows his leanings.
He's been dead since before The One hit the scene. They have no prepared tape.
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Meremortal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:46am |
re: #173 Nevergiveup
It is harder, although not impossible, to publish when you are taking a dirt nap.
+While there is some evidence that Osama is dead, it is circumstantial and inconclusive (I put the odds of his demise at 70%). There is no evidence I know of that Zawahiri is dead.
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redstateredneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:50am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:01am |
re: #159 JCM
amazing what you get used to
(Having raised only one) ... I DON'T WANNA KNOW!
Tell him to start posting!
He's lurking. I've sent a tutorial on commenting. He'll probably not dive in until after things calm down in the rooms.
It's good to have another hardware guy. Too many software people here. SHIVER! *ducking away from Stinky*
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:21am |
re: #192 3 wood
Still nothing on this in the MSM.
But I bet the guy with the cellphone camera is already being investigated by the Gestapo, I mean the MSM.
Probably will find out that that was not his cell-phone and that he is behind on his own cell bill and has gone over his monthly limit for text messages and did not have any rights to even have a cell phone in his hand.
/
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stanleymberg Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:50am |
I guess this is what is meant by "getting in their faces," huh?
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:42:54am |
re: #171 Buck
Something to think about. Orwell got it wrong.
In 1984, big brother watched us... in fact due to technology like camera phones, we the people watch the government and everyone else.
Reality is that everyone is carrying a video camera today.
How weird is that?
Unfortunately, my cellphone is JUST old enough that it doesn't have a camera. Not that it's all that old, though.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:04am |
re: #143 hazzyday
Voted at the polling place. Lots of people there. Also a stream of people dropping absentee ballots. There was a choice of Electronic touch pad voting which was slow and had a wait time, or fill out a ballot with no wait time but a person was at every booth. Then you slide your ballot into an optical counting machine. No Shenanigans here.
I like that in the US we can work towards a standard of peaceful and fair elections where each person has one vote and casts it fairly. No violence.
I was excited to vote this year. I never like the absentee thing. I like to go to a polling place and pull a lever.
There was no ID check. I did sign my name to a roll and I believe that is how they would check the validity of my vote if it came into question.
My polling place in Wasington state was well organized and staffed.
Same here, very well organized. We only have paper ballots, you go in to your precinct, check in, which means you tell the two elderly ladies at the first table your name and address, no ID, they look up the address, check off your name and give you a ballot. You fill out the ballot, go to the check out table, tell the two other elderly ladies your name and address, they check off your name again, and you insert your ballot into the electronic counting box. I was #516 in my precinct at 8am et. this morning. My girls were #517 and #518 respectively.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:26am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
The problem is that all the polls indicate McCain is in for an epic ass kicking of historical proportions tonight. If he does win it's going to be very difficult to make it look credible.
Naw, polls indicate what pollsters want you to see. Wait until about 10:00 p.m. Central time when the west coast polls close. We'll see whose ass got kicked.
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pbird Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:31am |
re: #36 legalpad
I hear of comments on the radio in which someone has some concern or consideration as to whether some people are mad or violent because Obama loses. F**k them. They lie, they threaten, they falsify, they are no where near a majority. They have foreign money, they have the media, they have Hollywood -
I have sworn to defend The Constitution of The United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I will do exactly that. Go ahead, looneys. Riot. Kill. Burn. Make my day.
They have been getting permission for weeks to riot! From the media, et al.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:49am |
re: #222 Meremortal
+While there is some evidence that Osama is dead, it is circumstantial and inconclusive (I put the odds of his demise at 70%). There is no evidence I know of that Zawahiri is dead.
True but even Zawahiri has been very quite lately. I think that they have nightmares of predator drones in their dreams?
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:43:54am |
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:01am |
re: #167 Noam Chumpski
As I understand it, there's no real 2nd Amendments Right left in Philly.
This is a terrific example for a very strong 2nd Amendment Right that is attributable to all Americans in all locations and that is largely unobstructed by Government.
See how easy it is for just 2 thugs to intimidate an entire area? Classic.
Not to be a tool, but have you joined the NRA today? :)
Actually, the store "Asian World of Martial Arts" is in Downtown Philly, IIRC, and they have all sorts of non-firearm martial arts weapons you can buy, like swords, knives, nunchaku, staves, throwing stars, etc.
Of course, I'd rather have a slightly rusty Smith .38 than any of those things, but Philly isn't a totally weapon-free zone.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:07am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
The problem is that all the polls indicate McCain is in for an epic ass kicking of historical proportions tonight. If he does win it's going to be very difficult to make it look credible.
I don't agree with you. The kind of rhetoric I heard this morning, plus the kind of talk coming from my moonbat friends (and I think I am around more moonbats than a lot of people), these folks are ready for a fight, no matter how fair and square the election is.
Hell Killgore, you know, I've mentioned it before, that moonbat hippie anarchist ex-girlfriend of mine, OVER TWO YEARS AGO, told me that when the shit hit the fan, she would be the first one on the streets with a Molotov. And that was BEFORE Obama was anywhere near the Democratic ticket.
This has been brewing much longer than Obama. And if the Democratic candidate was white, I think the you would be hearing the same rhetoric.
P.S. The sex was really good though.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:26am |
re: #201 Walter L. Newton
Orwell did not get it wrong.
At a fundmental level, our society does not resemble 1984. That world featured constant material poverty, extremely limited access to information, and zero opportunity to express one's independent thoughts. Our world looks very little like that - go to your local Sam's Club, and continue surfing on (and posting to) the Internet at your fingertips, if you don't believe me. Orwell did warn of certain trends to watch, however.
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shiplord kirel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:44:48am |
Gee, how could such a thing happen?
Simple, 'Rat-Media Party election officials set it up:
GOP Observers Back In Philly Polling Places
The Philadelphia district attorney's office says it has restored Republican election observers who were kicked out of polling places.
Spokeswoman Cathie Abookire said Tuesday that the partisan disputes were compounded by a misunderstanding about the rules that govern certified election observers.
The McCain-Palin campaign complained of intimidation by Democratic election officials who were kicking Republican officials out of polling places.
Abookire said the GOP observers were allowed to go back in after a district attorney's team arrived.
She said a certified observer can go inside any polling place in Philadelphia and stay, as long as there are no more than two watchers in any polling place.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:19am |
The kooks are already out at another forum I'm watching:
"Just saw footage of the black panther thing... Yeah, nothing happened. More of a media thing than anything."
"Well, I only saw the story reported on Fox and Drudge. Do you really think either of these trusted sources would exaggerate a story?"
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:38am |
re: #227 NomadOfNorad
Unfortunately, my cellphone is JUST old enough that it doesn't have a camera. Not that it's all that old, though.
A cell phone that's more than 18 months old is ancient.
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WrathofG-d Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:38am |
My "new comments" button doesn't work?
Is this just me?
/go to work Hampsters. (they must sense an Obama presidency, and know they no longer have to work)
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:40am |
"The Audacity of Hope THUGS!"
Power to the Correct People!
(Thugs are incorrect people.)
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hazzyday Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:44am |
re: #213 Quad Mocha Matti
Rush is too shrill for me. Medved is more my listening mode. Except when he does impersonations or sings.
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devil in baggy pants Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:45:52am |
Plasma? LCD?
Would like to get a new TV... any lizards have any wisdom for me?
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:29am |
re: #237 DeafDog
WTF is that video?
Where are the cops?
EJ Exlusive Video: Police Responding to Intimidation at Philly Polling Place
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:40am |
re: #172 harrylook
I've never wanted a gun in my house, but now I'm definitely applying for my license. Like, tomorrow.
Where do you live? I've never lived in a place where you had to have a license to keep a weapon in your house. Licensing is usually about carrying a weapon, outside of the home (and off your property, for that matter.)
Not trying to be nosy...just curious because it's a common misconception.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:40am |
re: #200 pbird
I can get on LGF fine with Opera but my Safari can't get the page up.
Viagra, Perhaps?
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:41am |
re: #184 Intrepid
Crap - stupid spinny ball.
:-(
I'm getting that too, sometimes. Had to reload the page because that last post of mine didn't "take" the first time.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:56am |
re: #236 shiplord kirel
a misunderstanding about the rules
I seriously doubt that it was a "misunderstanding".
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:46:57am |
re: #235 Occasional Reader
At a fundmental level, our society does not resemble 1984. That world featured constant material poverty, extremely limited access to information, and zero opportunity to express one's independent thoughts. Our world looks very little like that - go to your local Sam's Club, and continue surfing on (and posting to) the Internet at your fingertips, if you don't believe me. Orwell did warn of certain trends to watch, however.
I was talking about JUST the point he was addressing, not the overall theme of the book. He was indicating that people on the street have become the "telescreens" of Orwell, I'm suggesting that there is a large installed base of government controlled "telescreens" around the world.
That's all.
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Desert Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:03am |
"Those are not the Black Panthers I knew!"
"They are just guys in my hood"
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filetandrelease Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:08am |
don't know if this was already posted
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Noam Chumpski Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:15am |
re: #233 looking closely
Actually, the store "Asian World of Martial Arts" is in Downtown Philly, IIRC, and they have all sorts of non-firearm martial arts weapons you can buy, like swords, knives, nunchaku, staves, throwing stars, etc.
Of course, I'd rather have a slightly rusty Smith .38 than any of those things, but Philly isn't a totally weapon-free zone.
...not sure if you agreeing or disagreeing with my post. :)
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JCM Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:20am |
re: #242 hazzyday
Rush is too shrill for me. Medved is more my listening mode. Except when he does impersonations or sings.
Fawn Rainforest had me in stitches, he hasn't done her in long time.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:30am |
re: #225 musicman
Probably will find out that that was not his cell-phone and that he is behind on his own cell bill and has gone over his monthly limit for text messages and did not have any rights to even have a cell phone in his hand.
/
Cell Phones with cameras will now be regarded as weapons of mass destruction distraction and are to be impounded at once. Nightsticks/billy clubs are gentle instruments of persuasion, nothing more.
/sarc
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Meremortal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:37am |
re: #231 Nevergiveup
True but even Zawahiri has been very quite lately. I think that they have nightmares of predator drones in their dreams?
+
Yes, I'm more curious about Zawahiri's absence actually...
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:39am |
“Authorized” per the Black Panthers
MAN: i do not know what you are talking about.
LEVENTHAL: we have video that shows someone holding a night stick next to you.
MAN: i am telling you that you are not authorized to be here at the polling station.
LEVENTHAL: we checked with our legal department, with the philadelphia board of elections, and we do have the legal right to be within 10 feet of the polling place, and you should know that. everyone here, including mr. on men who called the police on us, should know that. the police asked us to leave when we have a need a right to be here, within 10 feet of the polling place.
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gregg Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:47:51am |
Well, I don't own any guns at the moment, but that'll be changing soon.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:22am |
re: #217 midwestgak
Glad you nudged your hubby to vote, if he voted McCain that is. :)//
BTW Thanks for saying hey. It's good to see you.
He voted just as I told him to vote (McCain/Palin of course).
Except he voted for some state constitutional amendments we had on our ballot, and I always vote against 'em; our constitution seems to need 10 amendments a year; I believe we need a new constitution.
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Meremortal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:37am |
re: #248 Nevergiveup
Were and why are they hiding Sarah today?
+
I saw Sarah on Fox earlier, she flew home to Alaska to vote.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:46am |
re: #234 Walter L. Newton
The kind of rhetoric I heard this morning, plus the kind of talk coming from my moonbat friends
Moonbat "talk" and $3.47 will buy you a "tall mocha" at Starbucks.
I would not put the probability of significant violence at anywhere like zero, but I do think it's low.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:49am |
re: #200 pbird
I can get on LGF fine with Opera but my Safari can't get the page up.
I am still getting used to Safari.
So far, one thing I do NOT like is the font/lettering
Its sort of harder on the eyes than the default Firefox one, I think.
But I have noticed it is a little faster than even Firefox (which itself is faster than Internet Explorer).
I haven't been getting the "spinning wheel of death" with Safari, where I usually get it with IE, and often with Firefox.
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devil in baggy pants Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:16am |
re: #255 bellamags
LCD lasts much longer
Great, thanks!
And by the way, there is no letter "P" in HAMSTERS, lizards!
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:22am |
re: #18 FrogMarch
What year is it?
1933 or 2008... hopefully 2008 will be better though...
I voted earlier this morning, no problems, had to show my ID and they called out my name for the benefit of the sitting poll watchers etc...
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harrylook Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:33am |
re: #245 scratch
I don't mind the inquiry. I live in Boston (Dorchester). I'm pretty sure I need local permission to just buy a gun here and have it in my house. I could be wrong. If anyone is familiar with the process, I'd appreciate the info...
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:48am |
re: #239 reine.de.tout
A cell phone that's more than 18 months old is ancient.
Heh! True! I wanna get one with bluetooth and stuff, but it's not quite in the budget yet. I need a new peecee first.
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DeafDog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:53am |
re: #244 JCM
EJ Exlusive Video: Police Responding to Intimidation at Philly Polling Place
Thank you
My faith in elections is restored...for now
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:56am |
re: #264 looking closely
I am still getting used to Safari.
So far, one thing I do NOT like is the font/lettering
Its sort of harder on the eyes than the default Firefox one, I think.
But I have noticed it is a little faster than even Firefox (which itself is faster than Internet Explorer).
I haven't been getting the "spinning wheel of death" with Safari, where I usually get it with IE, and often with Firefox.
I'm having a good safari experience too, but I like some of the firefox features better.
I think you can change the font. Edit - Preferences - Appearance.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:58am |
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BackwardsBoy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:49:58am |
re: #141 chukardog
what a couple of fucking dipshit looking mooks. Sorry, im not intimidated, look at me crossways and I'll shove that nightstick up your arse and turn you into a panthersicle. I'm the mellowest dude on the planet but I have ZERO tolerance for this shit.
And The Vapid One really thinks there will be a national security force of these thugs? Not for long.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:05am |
re: #110 Killgore Trout
Koskidz think it's funny...
Photo Evidence of Republican Voters Being Blocked at Polls
On the recommended list. Sad.
Morons.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:16am |
re: #244 JCM
EJ Exlusive Video: Police Responding to Intimidation at Philly Polling Place
Who trained those fucking cops? So, they walk the BP's away from the front door, and the lead Panther has a billy club in his hand, and the fat cop is walking, IN FRONT OF HIM, with his back turned.
Seeessshhh...
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:17am |
re: #266 devil in baggy pants
Great, thanks!
And by the way, there is no letter "P" in HAMSTERS, lizards!
Except when you're spelling the name of that state between Vermont and Maine - New Hampster!
;)
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zelnaga Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:34am |
Even digg.com thinks this is wrong!:
[Link: digg.com...]
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taejohndo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:47am |
You are being redundent -- Christiane Amanpour, total f*cking moron, -- same thing.
re: #68 FrogMarch
Excuse my potty mouth but -
Christiane Amanpour is a total f*cking moron.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:48am |
re: #221 CyanSnowHawk
He's been dead since before The One hit the scene. They have no prepared tape.
I know. I didn't believe the 2004 message was real, either.
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Spider Mensch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:49am |
here was the black panther quote right after the vid ended...
"this stick is to give you a "tingle" down your leg if you don't vote for homesplice obama, M F'er!"
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:50:58am |
I sincerely apologize on behalf of my crooked, corrupt home town, fellow Lizards!
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:12am |
re: #254 JCM
Fawn Rainforest had me in stitches, he hasn't done her in long time.
Please refresh the memory. Which bit was that?
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legalpad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:14am |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:18am |
re: #269 NomadOfNorad
Heh! True! I wanna get one with bluetooth and stuff, but it's not quite in the budget yet. I need a new peecee first.
No one ever really needs the latest model cell phone. We just all think we need it. If your current one works fine - don't worry about it.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:22am |
re: #266 devil in baggy pants
Great, thanks!
And by the way, there is no letter "P" in HAMSTERS, lizards!
The P is for POWER.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:23am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
The problem is that all the polls indicate McCain is in for an epic ass kicking of historical proportions tonight. If he does win it's going to be very difficult to make it look credible.
Same stupid crap that happened with Bush in 2000. Bad polling facilitated false charges of "stolen election".
The difference now is that the boy has already cried "wolf" once before. The hotly contested election is precedented, and within recent memory.
If the Dem supporters lose and start to riot, that will hurt them more than anything.
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Crusty Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:24am |
Once again, what the left has falsely imagined for years about the right is, instead, true about the left.
In 2000 and 2004 Democrats charged that voters were disenfranchised because Republican poll watchers were "present" at the polls, which in their minds equated to intimidation of Democratic voters.
It is not intimidation. Poll watchers, from all parties, are supposed to be present.
The left has blood-thirsty Black Panthers with billy clubs and paramilitary uniforms blocking polling place doors and verbally harassing people with racial threats. That, Mr. and Mrs. Left-wing American, is voter intimidation and it's coming from your side of the table.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:29am |
re: #263 Occasional Reader
The problem isn't the moonbats, they're all talk. The danger would be inner city riots. If they'll riot over OJ they'll riot over Obama. I couldn't venture a guess at the likelihood but it is a possibility if Obama loses.
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Meremortal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:33am |
re: #265 Sharmuta
Hey Sharmuta! Ready for a late night? I've got my wine waiting at home.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:47am |
re: #266 devil in baggy pants
Great, thanks!
And by the way, there is no letter "P" in HAMSTERS, lizards!
/The "P" is in the cage.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:51:48am |
re: #242 hazzyday
Hey hazzy,
You're in WA State too? Whereabouts? Are you a resident of the Red or the Blue half of the state?
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:04am |
re: #224 pre-Boomer Marine brat
He's lurking. I've sent a tutorial on commenting. He'll probably not dive in until after things calm down in the rooms.
It's good to have another hardware guy. Too many software people here. SHIVER! *ducking away from Stinky*
I'm an embedded systems guy. Work on both sides of the divide.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:10am |
re: #276 Walter L. Newton
Who trained those fucking cops? So, they walk the BP's away from the front door, and the lead Panther has a billy club in his hand, and the fat cop is walking, IN FRONT OF HIM, with his back turned.
Seeessshhh...
Hell, they probably know each other pretty well.
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jimzinsocal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:29am |
Anyone have the video of the FOX guy talking to the remaining guy...maybe 20 minutes ago...after Mr Billy Club was removed?
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:36am |
re: #76 looking closely
If Obama loses and there are riots, his political career will be trashed, race relations will be set back ANOTHER twenty years, and the Dems will have a major black eye coming into the next administration.
It won't set race relations back anything... those who integrate into the larger society will continue to do so and be successful, the rioter types will be self eliminating from success in society... Which of the two becomes the role model for the next generation?
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legalpad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:42am |
re: #230 pbird
They have been getting permission for weeks to riot! From the media, et al.
Yes they have. That is one reason why the media is one of the "domestic enemies".
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mahatma coat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:45am |
re: #247 NomadOfNorad
I'm having postings mysteriously appear o n previous threads
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Son of the Black Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:10am |
re: #239 reine.de.tout
A cell phone that's more than 18 months old is ancient.
My cell phone is so old it has a rotary dial. And it only comes in black.
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The Other Les Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:15am |
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RedWhiteAndJew Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:19am |
A co-worker advises me that in Dayton, Ohio poll workers are asking elderly voters if they want to change their votes, before final balloting.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:34am |
re: #264 looking closely
I am still getting used to Safari.
So far, one thing I do NOT like is the font/lettering
Its sort of harder on the eyes than the default Firefox one, I think.
But I have noticed it is a little faster than even Firefox (which itself is faster than Internet Explorer).
I haven't been getting the "spinning wheel of death" with Safari, where I usually get it with IE, and often with Firefox.
One gripe I have with Safari tho is... I mouse over a link, and it doesn't give me the URL being pointed to. Is there a way for me to add that?
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:36am |
re: #243 devil in baggy pants
Plasma? LCD?
Would like to get a new TV... any lizards have any wisdom for me?
I'm pretty sure the life of both is about equal.
I prefer LCD for clarity, but I came to that conclusion by going to the box stores and comparing them with plasma and the projection technologies. I would suggest that for you...just see what you like best.
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bushleague Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:37am |
re: #268 harrylook
Here you go, One mans journey to an LTC (license to carry) not me by the way
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:41am |
re: #245 scratch
Where do you live? I've never lived in a place where you had to have a license to keep a weapon in your house.
Here in DC, you do.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:53:59am |
re: #288 looking closely
Same stupid crap that happened with Bush in 2000. Bad polling facilitated false charges of "stolen election".
The difference now is that the boy has already cried "wolf" once before. The hotly contested election is precedented, and within recent memory.
If the Dem supporters lose and start to riot, that will hurt them more than anything.
Well, anyone dumb enough to confuse a POLL with an ELECTION...
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:00am |
re: #248 Nevergiveup
Were and why are they hiding Sarah today?
She took a plane to Wasilla to vote, and right now is on a plane to Arizona, I believe. Unless, that is, she's on an SR-71 to Afghanistan arranging for an election day surprise.
/one of the original wacky conspiracy theories
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:09am |
re: #296 CyanSnowHawk
I'm an embedded systems guy. Work on both sides of the divide.
Ah ha! Good man.
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:10am |
It must suck being tools of the white communist movement.
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ksammut Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:14am |
NRO on early CO voting. Promising for McCain:
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Crusty Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:16am |
re: #237 DeafDog
WTF is that video?
Where are the cops?
They're too busy investigating the aural hallucinations of liberal news reporters at Palin rallies.
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:21am |
re: #284 midwestgak
Please refresh the memory. Which bit was that?
Female radical enviro wacko, Medved let her "guest" host a hour here and there.
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Spider Mensch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:54:30am |
re: #243 devil in baggy pants
Plasma? LCD?
Would like to get a new TV... any lizards have any wisdom for me?
whatever hasn't been looted out of the stores when obama loses tonight.
might be an old zenith black and white left laying in the basement at best buy...
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:55:07am |
re: #290 Killgore Trout
The problem isn't the moonbats, they're all talk. The danger would be inner city riots. If they'll riot over OJ they'll riot over Obama. I couldn't venture a guess at the likelihood but it is a possibility if Obama loses.
I agree there's some danger of that. I'll probably forgo my usual midnight stroll through Anacostia tonight.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:55:11am |
An Obama supporter told me today that "this is the most important election in history."
I hardly knew what to say, except, "In history?"
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:56:36am |
re: #318 Cognito
An Obama supporter told me today that "this is the most important election in history."
I hardly knew what to say, except, "In history?"
Did you accent the last word and have a puzzled look on your face when you said it?
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:10am |
re: #286 reine.de.tout
No one ever really needs the latest model cell phone. We just all think we need it. If your current one works fine - don't worry about it.
Yup, that's why I haven't replaced mine yet. In fact, this one was a replacement, but only because I dropped the earlier one and cracked the screen. :-( THAT one I'd had since 2001 or so, and was perfectly fine with.
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Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader) Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:34am |
I don't know why, but this whole voter intimidation thing sounds like something you’d hear from Zimbabwe, I’m surprised it’s even happening in a 1st world country.
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Son of the Black Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:47am |
re: #248 Nevergiveup
Were and why are they hiding Sarah today?
Sarah flew back to Alaska to vote. Then flying back to Phoenix.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:19am |
re: #266 devil in baggy pants
Great, thanks!
And by the way, there is no letter "P" in HAMSTERS, lizards!
Unless you are referring to a resident of the Hamptons. Who cares if they don't like it, they live in the Hamptons.
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mahatma coat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:22am |
re: #320 NomadOfNorad
I get a free upgrade every year,and a drawer full of old ones
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:27am |
re: #318 Cognito
An Obama supporter told me today that "this is the most important election in history."
I hardly knew what to say, except, "In history?"
My favorite Obamazombie (sorry, Zombie!) moment today; a well-meaning liberal friend telling me she hopes Obama wins, "because he's such a nice guy". I demurred. "Well, better than Bush!" Um, I disagree. "Bush made this economic crisis!" Really? How did he do that? "With his... system!" Oh. Well, that explains everything.
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DeafDog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:29am |
re: #317 Occasional Reader
I agree there's some danger of that. I'll probably forgo my usual midnight stroll through Anacostia tonight.
OT - after I graduated colleg, I had a clunker automobile. I got lost driving in Anacostia after dark...I thought for sure I would be confronted. But the brothers eyed my car and gave me a nod. Obviously, I was not "The Man."
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RedWhiteAndJew Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:30am |
An Obama supporter told me today that "this is the most important election in history."I hardly knew what to say, except, "In history?"
In hispants, perhaps.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:32am |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:35am |
re: #317 Occasional Reader
I'll probably forgo my usual midnight stroll through Anacostia tonight.
Ha!
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baxtrice Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:58:43am |
re: #318 Cognito
An Obama supporter told me today that "this is the most important election in history."
I hardly knew what to say, except, "In history?"
Do they get their news from the Daily Show?
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Irene NYC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:04am |
re: #321 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)
I don't know why, but this whole voter intimidation thing sounds like something you’d hear from Zimbabwe, I’m surprised it’s even happening in a 1st world country.
Hey raz,
Ain't you been inside any large US cities lately?
;)
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:08am |
re: #321 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)
I don't know why, but this whole voter intimidation thing sounds like something you’d hear from Zimbabwe, I’m surprised it’s even happening in a 1st world country.
Well, Obama did say he sees himself as a "citizen of the world".
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devil in baggy pants Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:16am |
re: #324 mahatma coat
I get a free upgrade every year,and a drawer full of old ones
You should see if you can donate those to a local woman's shelter.
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:22am |
re: #298 jimzinsocal
Just heard that part on Rush... He sounded like an IQ challenged racist - "we have video of the guy standing next to you" "that don't matter, I'm talking about right now"... Moron...
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:23am |
re: #245 scratch
Where do you live? I've never lived in a place where you had to have a license to keep a weapon in your house. Licensing is usually about carrying a weapon, outside of the home (and off your property, for that matter.)
Not trying to be nosy...just curious because it's a common misconception.
Not here in Mass. You need a license to OWN a gun. We just had a case where a summer resident, a writer, had his home broken into over last winter. He was not there, was gone for the winter. A neighbor reported the break in to police, who, when they went in to secure the house, found 2 shotguns in a closet that had been rifled through.. They arrested and charged the homeowner for having unlicensed firearms and ammunition ( a separate charge). He was just convicted. Mandatory jail time. The burglars were never caught.
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notutopia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:23am |
Halloween did come and go didn't it? I thought I was back in the 70's again.
A night stick? He needs one. He is so thin you could blow him over with a 10kt
wind!
Do they really think this will stop the vote for McCain/Palin or are they just doing their probationary public service time performing security for their Obama voters?
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Desert Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:24am |
re: #321 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)
I don't know why, but this whole voter intimidation thing sounds like something you’d hear from Zimbabwe, I’m surprised it’s even happening in a 1st world country.
Get used to it...THAT is our future...danke schon, Herr Obama!
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littleoldlady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:36am |
re: #276 Walter L. Newton
Who trained those fucking cops? So, they walk the BP's away from the front door, and the lead Panther has a billy club in his hand, and the fat cop is walking, IN FRONT OF HIM, with his back turned.
Seeessshhh...
It's his brother-in-law...
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OldLineTexan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:44am |
re: #325 Occasional Reader
My favorite Obamazombie (sorry, Zombie!) moment today; a well-meaning liberal friend telling me she hopes Obama wins, "because he's such a nice guy". I demurred. "Well, better than Bush!" Um, I disagree. "Bush made this economic crisis!" Really? How did he do that? "With his... system!" Oh. Well, that explains everything.
He keeps it next to the hurricane machine in Crawford.
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wright1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:53am |
re: #318 Cognito
An Obama supporter told me today that "this is the most important election in history."
I hardly knew what to say, except, "In history?"
In her myopia that is probably true.
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:59:56am |
re: #304 RedWhiteAndJew
A co-worker advises me that in Dayton, Ohio poll workers are asking elderly voters if they want to change their votes, before final balloting.
How "helpful" of them...
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zombie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:00:26pm |
This has nothing whatsoever to do with the election, but perhaps it will serve as an entertaining break from the action.
The latest email to arrive at the Mohammed Image Archive:
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From: R.S. ...@yahoo.co.id
Subject: go to hell
dear hell man
i hope you erase all of your false picture. Cause every picture are false, even the picture from persian(it from sect syiah who derived from jews and they are syirik)
you say freedom of expression but we all know that freedom has limitation. Respect other people, it's forbidden to draw picture Rasulullah SAW. i don't know what your purpose to post that picture, but all i know is you are kafir and stay in hell forever if you don't taubat.
Freedom in expression, i think it same with any some terorrist guy who bombing around. i don't agree with them, they false and get prohibited by many muslim teacher cause they translate verse in Qur'an especially about jihad wrong, without knowledge and stupidity. But i'm agree if they bombing your place or everyone who draw that picture.
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conrad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:00:35pm |
Well, I just voted and it was well run, organized and respectful. The way it's supposed to be.
On another note, if these douchebags want to show up here with billy clubs in hand, there is a good chance that they will meet my friends who participate in my favorite hobby shown here (BTW, link is TOTALLY safe for work!):
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:00:38pm |
I just got a robocall from Robert Duvall on behalf of John McCain. :)
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:00:54pm |
re: #266 devil in baggy pants
Great, thanks!
And by the way, there is no letter "P" in HAMSTERS, lizards!
I have a bad habit of referring to a certain upper northeastern state as "NEW HAMSTER" though I certainly know better.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:00:56pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
Ha!
He usually wears an all-white ensemble with a tall, pointed hat so that motorists can see him more easily.
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:01:22pm |
Is he the General of Obama's new National Security Force?
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Semper Gumbi Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:01:34pm |
re: #305 NomadOfNorad
One gripe I have with Safari tho is... I mouse over a link, and it doesn't give me the URL being pointed to. Is there a way for me to add that?
Yes, I think it is under the view button-you have to enable...Crap, can't remember which option to enable.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:01:35pm |
re: #243 devil in baggy pants
Plasma? LCD?
Would like to get a new TV... any lizards have any wisdom for me?
Yes.
Plasma (hands down).
I recently spent a LOT of time comparison shopping these in medium and high-end models, including side-by-side comparison of plasma-vs-lcd with the same source material, and came to the following conclusions:
a. The new LCDs are a lot better than the old ones, but good plasmas still beat ALL of the LCDs, even the high-end (and super-expensive) Sony Bravia models.
Plasmas just have more lifelike colors, and more important, have much better contrast when it comes to displaying DARK colors. If you are watching a movie with night scenes, the whole thing turns to mud, even on the best backlit LCD monitors. Plasma lets you see the details.
b. Screen "burn in" is no longer an issue with plasma sets, as all the ones made in the past several years have pixel shifting technology that prevents it. So video games are OK with plasma (if that's a consideration).
c. Size for size, large screen plasma TVs are cheaper than their LCD counterparts.
So for me this was a no-brainer. Plasma.
LCDs have really a few advantages: They have non-reflective screens, which could be an advantage if you can't shield your plasma from outside light better. (On the other hand, plasma TVs look better in a darkened room). LCD's have a generally brighter picture, again, better in a bright room. LCDs are physically a little bit lighter, though this likely isn't an issue since the things sit in one place most of the time. Lastly, LCDs use a *little* bit less power.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:01:43pm |
re: #302 Son of the Black Dog
My cell phone is so old it has a rotary dial. And it only comes in black.
It must be heavy with those two metal bells inside.
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:01:47pm |
re: #298 jimzinsocal
Anyone have the video of the FOX guy talking to the remaining guy...maybe 20 minutes ago...after Mr Billy Club was removed?
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:01:54pm |
re: #302 Son of the Black Dog
My cell phone is so old it has a rotary dial. And it only comes in black.
My phone is so old it says "DelMonte" on the side.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:02:09pm |
Sarah just told some reporter that (paraphrased) "I don't have to tell anybody who I voted for, and that's what's cool about America"
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Daisy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:02:13pm |
Looks to me like electioneering for Obama is going on within a 50 foot radius of where people are voting.
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Son of the Black Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:02:19pm |
re: #322 Son of the Black Dog
Sarah flew back to Alaska to vote. Then flying back to Phoenix.
But I wish she'd voted absentee ballot and they'd used the cost of the aircraft and the fuel expended to buy a few more ads.
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:02:27pm |
re: #268 harrylook
I don't mind the inquiry. I live in Boston (Dorchester). I'm pretty sure I need local permission to just buy a gun here and have it in my house. I could be wrong. If anyone is familiar with the process, I'd appreciate the info...
Oh...Boston. Well,...
This link may help:
[Link: www.beantownbloggery.com...]
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Hooray for Captain Spaulding Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:03:00pm |
re: #113 Walter L. Newton
*** You got to read this ***
I can tell by the conversation that his friend, for what ever reason, was concerned that Obama may NOT win the election.
The guy behind me tell his friend...
"If Obama doesn't win, they are going to be seeing terrorist. The homeland type of terrorist. They'll be tripping alright, they'll be tripping."
G-d help me, this is true. It backs up some of the rhetoric that we have been hearing about trouble if Obama loses.
Walter, we live in COLORADO not some pansy-ass state. We've got guns.
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Irene NYC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:03:04pm |
re: #324 mahatma coat
I get a free upgrade every year,and a drawer full of old ones
Do you know the charity Cell Phones for Soliders - here's the link. Clean up your clutter and help our military reach out and touch their families! Win-win there.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:03:21pm |
re: #343 zombie
Just a couple more ESL classes and he can start writing for the Nigerian scammers.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:03:24pm |
re: #345 NJDhockeyfan
I just got a robocall from Robert Duvall on behalf of John McCain. :)
I live in NJ. No one is calling me. Except for that call to have my bag packed and be at the curb tomorrow at 5:30 AM for that bus to the re-education camp?
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tradewind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:03:55pm |
Well, of course nothing like that happened when I voted this morning, but at our pretty diverse precinct, the turnout appeared overwhelmingly Caucasian. The explanation seemed to be early voting, and just as I turned into the booth area, someone pulled the fire damn alarm. Voting site was an elementary school, poor kids all trooped out, but...
None of us left.
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mahatma coat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:01pm |
re: #342 Cap'n DOC
I must be better with a computer than I thought
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Opilio Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:07pm |
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yesandno Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:08pm |
re: #248 Nevergiveup
Were and why are they hiding Sarah today?
Big time differential between East Coast and Alaska. By 9:00 in morning in Alaska, it is after noon on the East Coast.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:13pm |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:14pm |
re: #322 Son of the Black Dog
Sarah flew back to Alaska to vote. Then flying back to Phoenix.
Carbon footprint!
Guards, SEIZE HER!
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:29pm |
Followup to this thread
Seattle Paper Publishes Addresses of Homes with GOP Signs
Stranger + Drudge = One big bad election controversy
That was the question asked this weekend after a story in The Stranger earned the ire of national conservative blogs and got at least two Eastside households to call the cops -- and their lawyers."If I can take action against the paper, I will, there's no doubt about it," said William Buckley, one of the people whose homes was photographed and mapped in a Halloween-themed feature about residential properties with Republican campaign signs.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:39pm |
re: #356 Son of the Black Dog
But I wish she'd voted absentee ballot and they'd used the cost of the aircraft and the fuel expended to buy a few more ads.
Great point.
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Son of the Black Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:04:51pm |
re: #276 Walter L. Newton
Who trained those fucking cops? So, they walk the BP's away from the front door, and the lead Panther has a billy club in his hand, and the fat cop is walking, IN FRONT OF HIM, with his back turned.
Seeessshhh...
I don't think the BP's still had their billy clubs by the time the police arrived. Couldn't see them in the video, and the cops aren't stupid.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:05:06pm |
re: #351 Who Watches the Watchmen?
It must be heavy with those two metal bells inside.
It's in your shoe...Right?
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rboa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:05:40pm |
Just think, in 2 years these guys will be at EVERY voting station with police support.
Give it up for America. She had a good run.
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redstateredneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:05:48pm |
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porkchop Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:05:51pm |
John McCain just gave a wonderful speech. I watched on fox news. Itis probably old already. But his optimism is contagious, i didn't think he could speak like that. The Obama people are using such intimidating methods that it will backfire on them.
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:06:02pm |
Oh Noes! The Democrat voting officials tried to Disenfrancise Tim Robbins... .
We'll be hearing about this for the next three friggin years and he probably did it to himself by registering with Acorn or something...
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jimzinsocal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:06:29pm |
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yesandno Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:06:29pm |
re: #343 zombie
This has nothing whatsoever to do with the election, but perhaps it will serve as an entertaining break from the action.
The latest email to arrive at the Mohammed Image Archive:
---
From: R.S. ...@yahoo.co.id
Subject: go to helldear hell man
i hope you erase all of your false picture. Cause every picture are false, even the picture from persian(it from sect syiah who derived from jews and they are syirik)you say freedom of expression but we all know that freedom has limitation. Respect other people, it's forbidden to draw picture Rasulullah SAW. i don't know what your purpose to post that picture, but all i know is you are kafir and stay in hell forever if you don't taubat.
Freedom in expression, i think it same with any some terorrist guy who bombing around. i don't agree with them, they false and get prohibited by many muslim teacher cause they translate verse in Qur'an especially about jihad wrong, without knowledge and stupidity. But i'm agree if they bombing your place or everyone who draw that picture.
Ain't love grand!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:06:41pm |
re: #343 zombie
It's all about your blogging nic. If it weren't for "zombie", they'd be your fervent admirerrzzzhahahahahahaha
... *gasp* ... sorry, just couldn't keep a straight face
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hazzyday Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:06:43pm |
re: #295 Quad Mocha Matti
I live in Seattle in Jim McDermott's district. He didn't get my vote.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:06:51pm |
re: #302 Son of the Black Dog
My cell phone is so old it has a rotary dial. And it only comes in black.
Hehe! I actually SAW a thing online where a guy turned an old rotary phone into a cellphone. He even rigged up a mechanism in it that would let him dial a number on the rotary dial, and it would convert the pulses into the intended digits and insert them into the cell-phone's number-input buffer.
Really neat. Not my style, but really neat.
(addendum) Dang, got the twirly-thing-of-death again... :-%P%
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:07:07pm |
re: #373 Son of the Black Dog
I don't think the BP's still had their billy clubs by the time the police arrived. Couldn't see them in the video, and the cops aren't stupid.
Only one member of the Gestapo had a club and the moron still had it.
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wright1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:07:20pm |
re: #345 NJDhockeyfan
I just got a robocall from Robert Duvall on behalf of John McCain. :)
It would have been good if A-h-h-nuld the Governator left a robocall "I am for John McCain, not that "girly" man with the skinny legs..."
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:07:49pm |
re: #376 hermit
So it appears reloading is about to be your hobby?
Depends on if the big brother has monitored my puchases of late!
But ,yes! May go UNDERGROUND! ;-]
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:07:50pm |
re: #367 Opilio
Actually- I'm hers. Though she did accept my apology for honing in on her nic.
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Pyrocles Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:07:59pm |
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pbird Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:00pm |
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:13pm |
re: #261 reine.de.tout
He voted just as I told him to vote (McCain/Palin of course).
Except he voted for some state constitutional amendments we had on our ballot, and I always vote against 'em; our constitution seems to need 10 amendments a year; I believe we need a new constitution.
Let's try this again. Got the spinning wheel from hell.
Good hubby.
We haven't had a state constitutional forum since about 1969 or there abouts. Many of its provisions prevent changes which would weaken the democratic strongs holds. I voted for it. We need some changes around here.
Change - another perfectly good work ruined.
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redstateredneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:23pm |
re: #350 looking closely
LCDs have really a few advantages: They have non-reflective screens, which could be an advantage if you can't shield your plasma from outside light better.
That's the reason we had one installed in an outside compartment on our motor home. Too much glare for the regular tv we had in there before.
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Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader) Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:27pm |
331 - Irene NYC
"Hey raz,
Ain't you been inside any large US cities lately?
;)"
I wouldn't know since I'm from the UK, haven't got around to visiting any US cities.
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Outrider Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:33pm |
Awesome. Just got back from voting and there was only one guy in there voting with eight more machines.
Attendant said due to two weeks of early voting and a huge rush all morning, it had been slow since lunch. I was in and out in about five minutes.
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zombie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:34pm |
re: #369 Killgore Trout
I googled my nic recently and this popped up because of a hat tip. Any clue what it is?
Hmmm, interesting. Looks like some Arabic site has created a complete mirror-site of my Mohammed Image Archive, without asking my permission or notifying me. For what purpose, I dare not say. I can't imagine they're really hardcore jihadis, because those people go ballistic upon seeing even one picture of Mohammed -- much less intentionally reposting a thousand of them.
Perhaps they're people in the Arab world who are on our side, poking fun at the jihadis?
A mystery, to be sure.
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Dave_Da_Kid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:40pm |
re: #268 harrylook
You have a lot to do. First you have to take a firearms safety course. Once that is completed you have to go to your Police Department's firearms licensing officer and fill out an application for a Firearms ID card. That's if you're looking to buy something other than a handgun. If you want a handgun, particularly an auto with more than an 8 round clip, you have to apply for a Class A license to carry a concealed weapon. Assuming you have the $100 dollars and are willing to wait 4 to 6 months for the application to be processed you'll get your card. THEN you can go get a gun. Fun eh?
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ladycatnip Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:08:49pm |
#194 Arbalest
There was a black guy, who looked to be in his 20's, hanging around outside my voting location (in N. CA) when I went in to vote earlier today.
He was within 100feet (a distance, in some states, within which political activities are prohibited) of the entrance, but said nothing, so I, and apparently everyone else, took little or no notice.
I thought it a bit strange, since I've never seen this sort of behavior at my voting location anytime in the last ~20years.
Has anyone else (besides the people in the video) noticed similar occurances? A count of similar occurances and general location might yield useful information.
See my post at #148. There weren't any African Americans standing outside, but were working as volunteers on the inside, which is a first in over 20 years of voting here in Southern California.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:09:00pm |
re: #380 Thanos
Oh Noes! The Democrat voting officials tried to Disenfrancise Tim Robbins... .
We'll be hearing about this for the next three friggin years and he probably did it to himself by registering with Acorn or something...
"Meat don't think, just vote, you can only hurt the team thinking."
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:09:12pm |
re: #343 zombie
This has nothing whatsoever to do with the election, but perhaps it will serve as an entertaining break from the action.
The latest email to arrive at the Mohammed Image Archive:
---
From: R.S. ...@yahoo.co.id
Subject: go to helldear hell man
i hope you erase all of your false picture. Cause every picture are false, even the picture from persian(it from sect syiah who derived from jews and they are syirik)you say freedom of expression but we all know that freedom has limitation. Respect other people, it's forbidden to draw picture Rasulullah SAW. i don't know what your purpose to post that picture, but all i know is you are kafir and stay in hell forever if you don't taubat.
Freedom in expression, i think it same with any some terorrist guy who bombing around. i don't agree with them, they false and get prohibited by many muslim teacher cause they translate verse in Qur'an especially about jihad wrong, without knowledge and stupidity. But i'm agree if they bombing your place or everyone who draw that picture.
Ah, the next Robert Burns!
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Irene NYC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:09:13pm |
re: #380 Thanos
Oh Noes! The Democrat voting officials tried to Disenfrancise Tim Robbins... .
We'll be hearing about this for the next three friggin years and he probably did it to himself by registering with Acorn or something...
Actually, something bizarro is going on in NYC. I had to vote by paper ballot attesting to my residency because over my name on the voter list it was printed "Removed by order of (some Judge)." And I voted in the primaries too. The poll workers were at a loss also to explain it.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:09:40pm |
re: #371 jcm
Followup to this thread
Good. You should have heard (and maybe you did) the guy from The Stranger whining on Dori Monson's show yesterday. He had "death threats", poor baby - after they basically gave instructions on how and where to find Republicans to attack.
Leftists are like children, I swear. They test and test your boundaries, and then get angry and indignant when you spank them.
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:09:41pm |
re: #377 rboa
Just think, in 2 years these guys will be at EVERY voting station with police support.
Give it up for America. She had a good run.
Yeah, in August 1776, you would have run home to mama.
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poopeedoo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:09:58pm |
Many of you have made great comments but my up-ding button's busted. If you have said something either profound or intelligent, give yourself a pat on the back from "poopeedoo". If not, let Mandy give you a "whack*.
You may begin ... now. ;)
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Arbalest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:10:09pm |
re: #215 Occasional Reader
Standing and breathing is not a problem, but hanging around frequently is. More importantly, hanging around at a voting location, at least the one in my area is quite unusual. For the past ~20years, I, and many others have always gone in, voted, then left. Additionally, the few people that I've talked to also do not remember anyone hanging around. There are occasionally exit pollsters, but they are far enough away from the voting location entrance, and they are always, IIRC, on public property. This guy was behaving differently, perhaps setting a precedent. If so, it seems worth noting, as this sort of precedent does not seem good; the video shows a bad result.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:10:18pm |
re: #384 hazzyday
I live in Seattle in Jim McDermott's district. He didn't get my vote.
Hey, what's "Lenin" wearing today - any idea?
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pat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:10:58pm |
re: #367 Opilio
Hey Sharmuta! Did you know that you have an LGF doppelgänger?
Yep we all know. Check Sharmutah's registration date.
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pbird Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:11:06pm |
re: #264 looking closely
I am still getting used to Safari.
So far, one thing I do NOT like is the font/lettering
Its sort of harder on the eyes than the default Firefox one, I think.
But I have noticed it is a little faster than even Firefox (which itself is faster than Internet Explorer).
I haven't been getting the "spinning wheel of death" with Safari, where I usually get it with IE, and often with Firefox.
It doesn't have all the spiffy skins either.
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:11:13pm |
re: #384 hazzyday
I live in Seattle in Jim McDermott's district. He didn't get my vote.
Beren! I have to hand it too him for guts.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:11:24pm |
re: #321 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)
I don't know why, but this whole voter intimidation thing sounds like something you’d hear from Zimbabwe, I’m surprised it’s even happening in a 1st world country.
I haven't seen you on here in ages. Nice to see veteran lizards returning for the election festivities.
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:11:37pm |
re: #399 Dave_Da_Kid
You have a lot to do. First you have to take a firearms safety course. Once that is completed you have to go to your Police Department's firearms licensing officer and fill out an application for a Firearms ID card. That's if you're looking to buy something other than a handgun. If you want a handgun, particularly an auto with more than an 8 round clip, you have to apply for a Class A license to carry a concealed weapon. Assuming you have the $100 dollars and are willing to wait 4 to 6 months for the application to be processed you'll get your card. THEN you can go get a gun. Fun eh?
Move to Texas.. Bought a nice 9mm Smith and Wesson, in and out in 2 hours.. I had to browse.. ;)
All you need is a valid driver's license, clean background, answer a questionnaire.. and viola! 2nd Amendment Baby! Thank you founding fathers!
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:12:30pm |
re: #243 devil in baggy pants
Plasma? LCD?
Would like to get a new TV... any lizards have any wisdom for me?
Tell some of the younger rioters $50 per new (working) plasma or lcd... then see which one suits you best...
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Daisy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:13:04pm |
re: #362 CyanSnowHawk
Just a couple more ESL classes and he can start writing for the Nigerian scammers.
Have you visited this site? Brilliant in it's own way. This guy is scamming the scammers. He's got the writing style down: [Link: www.419eater.com...]
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~BfromTX Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:13:05pm |
re: #248 Nevergiveup
She voted in Alaska...give her some time to fly back. Just sayin :-)
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hazzyday Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:13:17pm |
re: #409 capitalist piglet
I walked by where i thought "Lenin" was last week and he wasn't there. They must have moved him. Last time I saw him he had some Hawaiian flowers on him. Which were probably donated to him by the Fremont Troll.
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:13:23pm |
re: #290 Killgore Trout
The problem isn't the moonbats, they're all talk. The danger would be inner city riots. If they'll riot over OJ they'll riot over Obama. I couldn't venture a guess at the likelihood but it is a possibility if Obama loses.
There will be riots if Obama wins or loses. There will be riots.
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Dave the..... Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:13:42pm |
Hey, last weeks Gander Mountain ad...buy a gun, get a one year free membership to the NRA!
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:13:54pm |
Local Harrisburg Radio host Bob Durgen (whp 580) going on about his having had a "problem" with the voting machine today... ooopsy...
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Irene NYC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:13:55pm |
re: #396 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)
331 - Irene NYC
"Hey raz,
Ain't you been inside any large US cities lately?
;)"I wouldn't know since I'm from the UK, haven't got around to visiting any US cities.
Well, you must try to come visit then and experience our great American hospitality, available in ginormous-size from coast to coast.
Really, Brits love to come and visit. There seem to be about 1 million of them in NYC at any given time.
;)
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:14:02pm |
re: #412 jcm
Beren! I have to hand it too him for guts.
Me too, though his radio ads are horrible. That district is a lost cause in any case, but...you do have to hand it to people who run against that commie bastard.
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CommonSense Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:14:45pm |
What only us western PA folk r redneck's yall
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:14:52pm |
re: #371 jcm
Followup to this thread
Buh-bye, Stranger.
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joekowalski247 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:14:52pm |
re: #4 Cognito
Hey, go college kid, go!
"You have a nightstick."
"Well, you have a camera phone."
"Yes. I have a camera phone. Which is not a weapon."
Outstanding.
It is a weapon, but it only if the video is alowed to been seen, hello LA TIMES
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:15:04pm |
re: #420 hazzyday
I walked by where i thought "Lenin" was last week and he wasn't there. They must have moved him. Last time I saw him he had some Hawaiian flowers on him. Which were probably donated to him by the Fremont Troll.
He moved a block north and east of his old location, N. 36th and Evanstan right on the main drag.
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hazzyday Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:15:17pm |
re: #412 jcm
Beren! I have to hand it too him for guts.
yah he should have been listed as Baghdad Jim McDermott.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:15:23pm |
re: #399 Dave_Da_Kid
If you want a handgun, particularly an auto with more than an 8 round clip
tsk tsk tsk...
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:15:44pm |
re: #414 Zippy_Slug
Same in Utah !
Bought a very menacing 8 shot ,12 gauge Streetsweeper Sat...
Took about 20 min...
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:15:48pm |
re: #423 Dave the...
Hey, last weeks Gander Mountain ad...buy a gun, get a one year free membership to the NRA!
Ah.. missed that deal..
I don't mind throwing a couple of bucks to the NRA tho.. They do good work.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:16:00pm |
re: #384 hazzyday
I live in Seattle in Jim McDermott's district. He didn't get my vote.
Oh man, that sucks.
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Buck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:16:42pm |
re: #417 Daisy
Great site. The nigerians have made a real industry of this. When I was a eBay Powerseller, I was getting three or four a month.
I never played with them, takes too much time, but it does seem like fun.
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Opinionated Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:16:51pm |
re: #243 devil in baggy pants
Plasma? LCD?
Would like to get a new TV... any lizards have any wisdom for me?
Go to AVS forum and learn more then you will ever need to know.
Unless you want to pay a steep premium for some of the very high end Plasmas, the consensus today is that some of the Sony's and particularly the new Samsung LCD's are the way to go.
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chukardog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:17:13pm |
I know I sound a little like an unhinged libtard, but Im tired of this Bizzarro world BS. We need to get back to what the framers wanted and thats a limited government, not this huge cluster fuck of people voting for entitlements. The dems, the media and the unions are the unholy triumverate of destruction and the constitution is their target.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:17:14pm |
re: #423 Dave the...
Hey, last weeks Gander Mountain ad...buy a gun, get a one year free membership to the NRA!
How about join the NRA and get a free gun?
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:17:28pm |
re: #417 Daisy
Have you visited this site? Brilliant in it's own way. This guy is scamming the scammers. He's got the writing style down: [Link: www.419eater.com...]
The NPR radio show This American Life had a segment a few months back about a group of guys who set out to scam the Nigerian scammers; I don't know if they're the same ones in your link. They convinced a well-known 419 scammer that their church group was all ready to send him $200,000... but that he'd have to go to the Western Union office in a dangerous border city in Chad to get it. It worked. They had him there for THREE MONTHS waiting for a non-existent wire transfer!
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opnion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:17:38pm |
This is really disturbing, our borders are meaningless & now thwe vote is being sujected to massive fraud & intimidation. We fought a few wars so that these things would not be permitted.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:17:45pm |
OK, I'll be the first to admit I am not always right ( but I really can't remember the last time I was wrong ) but I don't get it. For 3 months I hardly saw any McCain commercials or hit spots against Obama. But today here in NJ on TV I have seen alot. Kinda to little to late ain't it?
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FamHistoryGuy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:18:03pm |
re: #245 scratch
Omaha, Ne requires a permit to purchase and a permit to posses. At least they did in 1984.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:18:15pm |
re: #385 NomadOfNorad
Hehe! I actually SAW a thing online where a guy turned an old rotary phone into a cellphone. He even rigged up a mechanism in it that would let him dial a number on the rotary dial, and it would convert the pulses into the intended digits and insert them into the cell-phone's number-input buffer.
Really neat. Not my style, but really neat.
(addendum) Dang, got the twirly-thing-of-death again... :-%P%
Oh! Wow!
Here's a place you can actually BUY a rotary phone turned into a cellphone!
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TMF Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:18:48pm |
I never thought Id say this- but I will be more depressed if Obama wins than I would have been if Kerry won.
Somehow, its a worse omen for the country if this total lying prick wins than if pompous flip flopping Kerry had.
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Ojoe Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:19:10pm |
Excellent Clouds. Sanity break.
That's it for now.
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:19:28pm |
re: #434 reloadingisnotahobby
Same in Utah !
Bought a very menacing 8 shot ,12 gauge Streetsweeper Sat...
Took about 20 min...
Go Utah!
Wanted a shotgun also, but the wifey finds them hard to shoot..
But, depending on what happens tonight/tomorrow, I may need to go shopping again.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:19:40pm |
re: #380 Thanos
Oh Noes! The Democrat voting officials tried to Disenfrancise Tim Robbins... .
We'll be hearing about this for the next three friggin years and he probably did it to himself by registering with Acorn or something...
What a self-important douche. Five bucks says he staged the whole thing for dramatic effect.
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opnion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:20:22pm |
re: #421 Alouette
There will be riots if Obama wins or loses. There will be riots.
That's the smart money, one an angry riot, the other just a little recreational violence.
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:20:34pm |
re: #445 FamHistoryGuy
Omaha, Ne requires a permit to purchase and a permit to posses. At least they did in 1984.
WA, no permit to purchase, or own. 5 day wait on hand guns, quick check for long guns. Shall issue state for concealed permits. Once a CPL is in hand, quick check to see if permit is still valid, and walk out.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:20:44pm |
re: #443 opnion
This is really disturbing, our borders are meaningless & now thwe vote is being sujected to massive fraud & intimidation. We fought a few wars so that these things would not be permitted.
Fighting for your rights is so passe nowadays. The government will give you what you need.
/
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littleoldlady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:21:01pm |
re: #444 Nevergiveup
OK, I'll be the first to admit I am not always right ( but I really can't remember the last time I was wrong ) but I don't get it. For 3 months I hardly saw any McCain commercials or hit spots against Obama. But today here in NJ on TV I have seen alot. Kinda to little to late ain't it?
"Undecideds" are expected to break towards McCain.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:21:13pm |
re: #449 Zippy_Slug
Right on!
Silly wife...can't have too much protection!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:21:21pm |
re: #449 Zippy_Slug
Wanted a shotgun also, but the wifey finds them hard to shoot..
Did she try out a 20 gauge, or maybe even a .410?
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Ben Hur Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:21:46pm |
CNN Caller: Where's Your Report On Black Panther Voter Intimidation in Philly?
A man called in to CNN's Helpline on Tuesday wondering why the network hasn't reported the Black Panthers who were seen standing in front of a Philadelphia polling station this morning, one of them carrying a billy club.
According to the caller (audio available here), he was going to vote for Obama until a friend told him about this incident. The caller said, "Now Fox has broadcast this, and I want to know why CNN has not broadcast this yet."
Call him back, Cog.
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:21:50pm |
re: #453 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fighting for your rights is so passe nowadays. The government will give you what you need.
/
And a free tank of gas...
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:01pm |
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opnion Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:02pm |
re: #453 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fighting for your rights is so passe nowadays. The government will give you what you need.
/
Really, how in the world did we get to this?
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:07pm |
re: #326 DeafDog
OT - after I graduated colleg, I had a clunker automobile. I got lost driving in Anacostia after dark...I thought for sure I would be confronted. But the brothers eyed my car and gave me a nod. Obviously, I was not "The Man."
My brother had a friend who used to work at a shady intelligence facility (NRO, maybe?) down in that area back in the 80's. He said there was an unwritten agreement with the equally shady "locals": "We won't bother you if you let us know when you see people hanging out who, you know, ain't from around here."
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Dave_Da_Kid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:08pm |
re: #452 jcm
Wish MA was that easy. $100 for a class A and you have to renew it every year. Hoops of flaming death to jump through to get it too. I should have stayed in NH. Wife is a MA girl though so here I am...
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:14pm |
re: #450 doppelganglander
What a self-important douche. Five bucks says he staged the whole thing for dramatic effect.
Like the time he gave a press conference at the National Press Club, in front of a bank of microphones and t.v. cameras, to moan about how his Brave Voice of Dissent was being silenced by BushHitler?
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A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:30pm |
re: #179 Walter L. Newton
Yes, not good Walter. There was another comment about battening down the hatches and staying off the streets. A wise move whatever the outcome.
I have been getting cut off alot, there must dead, and dying, hamsters all over the place.
#162, Pre-Boomere, Yes, it Wednesday, but I would not want to spoil the surprise as to the result.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:37pm |
re: #447 TMF
I never thought Id say this- but I will be more depressed if Obama wins than I would have been if Kerry won.
Somehow, its a worse omen for the country if this total lying prick wins than if pompous flip flopping Kerry had.
Shit I'd rather see hilliary in the WH.
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Archimedes Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:22:40pm |
re: #318 Cognito
An Obama supporter told me today that "this is the most important election in history."
I hardly knew what to say, except, "In history?"
With all due respect to the Obama supporter, I think Ugh vs Ogh the cavemen was much more important. Come on!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:23:22pm |
re: #452 jcm
WA, no permit to purchase, or own. 5 day wait on hand guns, quick check for long guns. Shall issue state for concealed permits. Once a CPL is in hand, quick check to see if permit is still valid, and walk out.
Stop tormenting me.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:23:48pm |
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:23:48pm |
re: #454 littleoldlady
"Undecideds" are expected to break towards McCain.
Yeah I get it but by the time these commercials aired alot of people had already voted. Yesterday I could understand.
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bosforus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:23:51pm |
Public Enemy's dancers have really hit some hard times. Performing in front of polling locations.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:23:54pm |
re: #446 NomadOfNorad
Oh! Wow!
Here's a place you can actually BUY a rotary phone turned into a cellphone!
Personally, I like this version of that idea, although the bluetooth version is good, too.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:24:31pm |
re: #450 doppelganglander
No, I doubt that he did so. And he's not being disenfranchised or having his vote suppressed. Someone screwed up and affected 40 people at his polling place thus far. He went and got a judge to certify he was registered to vote.
What his situation shows is that the election system is truly broken in this country. Not every problem at the polls is some nefarious plot; most of the time it's the result of inept and bumbling bureaucrats who aren't doing their damned jobs to clear voter rolls of dead people and assure that those who are properly registered are included on the rolls.
Throw in the outright and real fraud and intimidation and you've got a serious mess.
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:24:33pm |
re: #439 CoolShades
Thanks for that Link, I've updated my post with it.
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:24:36pm |
re: #363 Nevergiveup
I live in NJ. No one is calling me. Except for that call to have my bag packed and be at the curb tomorrow at 5:30 AM for that bus to the re-education camp?
I love the smell of chads in the morning...
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:25:04pm |
re: #456 Occasional Reader
Did she try out a 20 gauge, or maybe even a .410?
Nah.. we were practicing with my father's 12 ga, and i think it scared her.. My dad doesn't have any other long guns other than a 22 cal rifle.. That's just a step up from a BB gun..
Given some time and circumstance, I might be able to convince her.
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Ben Hur Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:25:30pm |
re: #403 Irene NYC
Actually, something bizarro is going on in NYC. I had to vote by paper ballot attesting to my residency because over my name on the voter list it was printed "Removed by order of (some Judge)." And I voted in the primaries too. The poll workers were at a loss also to explain it.
I reported earlier that the same thing happened to me, then later at a different NYC site, to my brother.
My name wasn't on the list even though I had an election card. I needed to fill out a paper ballot, though they made it seem that it would be a hassle. I did it anyway and it took 2 minutes.
Then I received emails from my bro that they weren't letting him vote because his name wasn't on the register either. I told him to fill out a paper ballot and he said one wasn't offered. I told him to go back and demand a affidavit ballot. He just went back and voted.
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Kragar Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:26:02pm |
Philly Polling Stations: no GOP allowed
GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in at least half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.
A Pennsylvania judge previously ruled that court-appointed poll watchers could be NOT removed from their boards by an on-site election judge, but that is exactly what is happening, according to sources on the ground.
It is the duty of election board workers to monitor and guard the integrity of the voting process.
Denying access to the minority (in this case Republican) poll watchers and inspectors is a violation of Pennsylvania state law. Those who violate the law can be punished with a misdemeanor and subjected to a fine of $1,000 and sent to prison between one month and two years.
Those on site are describing the situation as "pandemonium" and there may be video coming of the chaos.
Some of the precincts where Republicans have been removed are: the 44th Ward, 12th and 13th divisions; 6th Ward, 12th division; 32nd Ward, Division 28.
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Junior Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:26:05pm |
re: #243 devil in baggy pants
Plasma? LCD?
Would like to get a new TV... any lizards have any wisdom for me?
LCD.
Plasmas won't even be sold in the coming years. The market is being taken over by LCD and DLP.
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mahatma coat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:26:27pm |
re: #456 Occasional Reader
my government tells me I can't be trusted to have one .But its ok they're
going to protect me
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:26:28pm |
re: #463 Occasional Reader
Like the time he gave a press conference at the National Press Club, in front of a bank of microphones and t.v. cameras, to moan about how his Brave Voice of Dissent was being silenced by BushHitler?
I remember that. If McCain wins, I think I'll call him up and see if he needs any help packing for his move to Canada.
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:26:43pm |
re: #113 Walter L. Newton
Good afternoon ol' Bean,
Please do clear something up for me. Was this an actual event you witnessed? Or was this account written elsewhere?
Couldn't tell by your header. Trying hard not to take the bait on something like this even with the incident in Philly.
We should be above fear-mongering.
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philosophus invidius Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:26:44pm |
According the the 2nd Amendment, each citizen has the right to carry arms--even a gun. So, unless this guy is a felon or something, he should be allowed to carry a gun so that he can defend himself against criminals. Just because we might not like this particular guy does not mean that we can pick a choose when our rights are defended. Perhaps he thinks he needs to defend the voters against some other people who might show up there.
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JacksonTn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:27:29pm |
Can you believe FOX has Kos Buddy Nate from 538 on as a pollster? ... the msm is dead ...
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exredtory Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:28:04pm |
Apply the 2nd Amendment to these thugs? Actually, I think your 1st Amendment is being vigourously applied to these yahoos as we speak. Will it do any good? Under the "Fairness Doctrine" who knows? We have enough trouble in Canada with the so-called human rights commissions.
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:28:30pm |
re: #345 NJDhockeyfan
I just got a robocall from Robert Duvall on behalf of John McCain. :)
I love the smell of chads in the morning...
/now featuring the right quote for my reply
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littleoldlady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:01pm |
re: #470 Nevergiveup
Yeah I get it but by the time these commercials aired alot of people had already voted. Yesterday I could understand.
Okay, maybe they're trying to encourage people who are thinking of NOT voting to get out and vote(?)
/I can probably come up with a few more guesses. ;-)
McCain has run a pretty smart campaign in terms of where to put the candidates and the money, IMO. They know something we don't.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:13pm |
Shep Smith, who by the way I am hating more every day, is gonna talk about this years best poitical adds. Personally I think they all sucked.
This is the one I like:
G-D save us!
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spudly Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:32pm |
Just imagine if some white supremacist idiots were "guarding" a polling place in a Republican district. The mind boggles at the thought of the coverage it would get. At the broad generalization the MSM would apply to all Republicans and conservatives.
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Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader) Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:37pm |
413 - doppelganglander
"I haven't seen you on here in ages. Nice to see veteran lizards returning for the election festivities."
Thanks, never thought I'd see the day that I become a veteran lizard as I only post from time to time.
425 - Irene NYC
"Well, you must try to come visit then and experience our great American hospitality, available in ginormous-size from coast to coast.
Really, Brits love to come and visit. There seem to be about 1 million of them in NYC at any given time.
;)"
I know, a member of my family visited NYC a few weeks ago, absolutely loved it.
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Irene NYC Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:38pm |
re: #478 Ben Hur
I reported earlier that the same thing happened to me, then later at a different NYC site, to my brother.
My name wasn't on the list even though I had an election card. I needed to fill out a paper ballot, though they made it seem that it would be a hassle. I did it anyway and it took 2 minutes.
Then I received emails from my bro that they weren't letting him vote because his name wasn't on the register either. I told him to fill out a paper ballot and he said one wasn't offered. I told him to go back and demand a affidavit ballot. He just went back and voted.
Ben H,
The poll workers gave me a new voter registration card to fill out. Did you get one too?
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:39pm |
Wonder how Mama Winger is doing with the two "hell-bitch" lawyers at her polling place today?
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:50pm |
re: #486 JacksonTn
Can you believe FOX has Kos Buddy Nate from 538 on as a pollster? ... the msm is dead ...
I saw that. I was dumb founded! But it was Shep
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NeedleStack Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:29:54pm |
Wow, what disgusting thuggery. They probably cost Obama more votes than they gained him.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:30:22pm |
re: #472 gmsc
Personally, I like this version of that idea, although the bluetooth version is good, too.
Hmmm... I got a USB bluetooth dongle from woot.com recently. I wonder if that bluetooth retro handset could be used as a Skype phone on my peecee.
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A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:30:27pm |
re: #484 nightwatch
Good afternoon ol' Bean,
Please do clear something up for me. Was this an actual event you witnessed? Or was this account written elsewhere?
Couldn't tell by your header. Trying hard not to take the bait on something like this even with the incident in Philly.
We should be above fear-mongering.
It looked/read like Walter actually witnessed this.
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:30:34pm |
re: #380 Thanos
Oh Noes! The Democrat voting officials tried to Disenfrancise Tim Robbins... .
We'll be hearing about this for the next three friggin years and he probably did it to himself by registering with Acorn or something...
I would not be surprised that it was an error in their system that dropped him, or someone trying to register him at another address. Reading the comments there gives one the impression that the bureaucracy is alive and well and slowing things to a snail's pace as usual.
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Viking6 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:30:37pm |
Never bring a nightstick to a video fight. R King
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:30:39pm |
re: #482 mahatma coat
my government tells me I can't be trusted to have one .But its ok they're
going to protect me
When seconds count...
The cops are minutes away.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:30:43pm |
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Daisy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:31:13pm |
re: #442 Occasional Reader
Can't be certain OC, but it sure sounds like their good work. As luck has it, my son turned me on to this site just last night. Know he enjoys "This American Life" and so, wouldn't be surprised.
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:31:28pm |
re: #445 FamHistoryGuy
Omaha, Ne requires a permit to purchase and a permit to posses. At least they did in 1984.
Nebraska requires a purchase permit to purchase a hand gun and a concealed carry permit for concealed carry. The state excludes certain locations from the right to carry with a permit such as banks, bars, churches, government buildings. Localities, such as Omaha, can (and have) further exclude areas. In addition, any private business can, by posting a sign at the entrance, refuse CC on its premises.
There is no permit required to possess in one's home.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:31:28pm |
re: #460 opnion
Really, how in the world did we get to this?
The teaching profession was methodically corrupted by Marxists for two generations.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:31:47pm |
re: #497 NeedleStack
Wow, what disgusting thuggery. They probably cost Obama more votes than they gained him.
I can see someone walking up to a voting location, seeing Black Panthers standing there, and changing their minds then and there.
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RaiderDan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:32:01pm |
The good news: These New Black Panther Party thugs were eventually led away by a pair of Philly police. (one a black officer to boot)
The bad news: Next year these NBPP thugs will BE the police as part of Barack Obama's Civilian National Security Force. (and the black officer that led them away will probably be giving them weapons and defensive tactics training. It was either that or lose the badge.)
Its 1933 again...
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CharlieBravo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:32:05pm |
Members of our new Civilian Security Force in action?
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guzziguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:32:33pm |
re: #414 Zippy_Slug
Move to Texas.. Bought a nice 9mm Smith and Wesson, in and out in 2 hours.. I had to browse.. ;)
All you need is a valid driver's license, clean background, answer a questionnaire.. and viola! 2nd Amendment Baby! Thank you founding fathers!
Or Oklahoma. My latest purchase was a nice small 7-shot autoloader. I went to a gun show hoping to find one. One vendor told me he was out, but would have more in on Tuesday. I handed him $20 and a business card with instructions for him to call me. He did. We met under a shade tree at the side of a road. He had the necessary fed paperwork with him and a fax scanner that would connect to his cell phone. After about 20 minutes we exchanged cash for the gun and went our separate ways. Gotta' love freedom.
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:32:37pm |
re: #373 Son of the Black Dog
I don't think the BP's still had their billy clubs by the time the police arrived. Couldn't see them in the video, and the cops aren't stupid.
Yes they did and yes they are...
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SecondComing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:32:46pm |
I wonder how many elderly couples were scared away by two men in uniforms with a nightstick standing right in the way of the door.
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:34:03pm |
re: #506 Who Watches the Watchmen?
The teaching profession was methodically corrupted by Marxists for two generations.
And the media.
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alien_mind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:34:22pm |
get aggressive.
get in peoples faces.
we need a strong civilian security force.
this is the future?
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mean Gene Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:34:37pm |
''0's'' national domestic security forces see no problem with brandishing a billy club at potential voters.
If that's what they're like without the official stamp of approval HOW BAD will be treat Americans afterwards?
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Ben Hur Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:34:38pm |
re: #494 Irene NYC
Ben H,
The poll workers gave me a new voter registration card to fill out. Did you get one too?
No.
I'll worry about it next time.
I'm not confident that my paper ballot will be counted.
Just a hunch.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:35:53pm |
re: #485 philosophus invidius
According the the 2nd Amendment, each citizen has the right to carry arms--even a gun. So, unless this guy is a felon or something, he should be allowed to carry a gun so that he can defend himself against criminals. Just because we might not like this particular guy does not mean that we can pick a choose when our rights are defended. Perhaps he thinks he needs to defend the voters against some other people who might show up there.
Did you forget a sarc tag? Or are you being deliberately obtuse?
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rumcrook Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:36:17pm |
I believe I might have gone and gotten a much bigger stick.
and came back to play whos yer daddy on his noggin.
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:36:31pm |
re: #325 Occasional Reader
My favorite Obamazombie (sorry, Zombie!) moment today; a well-meaning liberal friend telling me she hopes Obama wins, "because he's such a nice guy". I demurred. "Well, better than Bush!" Um, I disagree. "Bush made this economic crisis!" Really? How did he do that? "With his... system!" Oh. Well, that explains everything.
It amazes me how many people have no idea how this financial crisis came about and who is to blame for it. Bush is the president so it must be all his fault. And they don't WANT to hear the truth.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:37:12pm |
re: #504 Daisy
Can't be certain OC, but it sure sounds like their good work. As luck has it, my son turned me on to this site just last night. Know he enjoys "This American Life" and so, wouldn't be surprised.
The show is made by latte-sipping libs, but occasionally does very good work.
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Hobbes Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:39:47pm |
re: #497 NeedleStack
Wow, what disgusting thuggery. They probably cost Obama more votes than they gained him.
Let's hope.
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Jimash Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:40:21pm |
re: #5 musicman
This is that "Civilian Security Force" Obama must be talking about!
Black Panthers with nightsticks claiming to be "security".
I, like many of you am creeped out.
Between the Panthers, the WU , and the general tide of sudden socialists and closet communists, the woodwork is really emptying out. I shudder.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:41:12pm |
In MA, Glock pistols are deemed too unsafe for any civilian to own. . .yet they are standard issue for most of the State police officers.
The ability to get a concealed carry permit in MA is HIGHLY dependent on the individual whims of the Chief Law enforcement officer in your given town.
In Boston, they are really only issued to a small number of people in select classes (that includes lawyers and doctors).
In Brookline MA, NOBODY gets to carry concealed. . .the Brookline Chief of Police reportedly even refuses to let his own off duty police officers carry guns!
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:41:55pm |
re: #496 Nevergiveup
I saw that. I was dumb founded! But it was Shep
Shep's a dipshit. Figured that out during Katrina when he was on I-10 parroting all the rumors and basically acting like an ass. I turn the TV channel when he comes on.
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exredtory Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:42:49pm |
re: #446 NomadOfNorad
Oh! Wow!
Here's a place you can actually BUY a rotary phone turned into a cellphone!
Neat: I just still use my rotary phone. (From my cold dead fingers, etc. - Though I do use a cell also, but for other reasons)
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CyanSnowHawk Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:43:38pm |
re: #417 Daisy
Have you visited this site? Brilliant in it's own way. This guy is scamming the scammers. He's got the writing style down: [Link: www.419eater.com...]
I could lose days there reading all that. I think I found it last year sometime.
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Aussie Infidel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:43:41pm |
... ' 'there are STILL Black Panthers?' ...
Menacing folks with what?
Their zimmer frames?
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Scion9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:43:55pm |
re: #235 Occasional Reader
At a fundmental level, our society does not resemble 1984. That world featured constant material poverty, extremely limited access to information, and zero opportunity to express one's independent thoughts. Our world looks very little like that - go to your local Sam's Club, and continue surfing on (and posting to) the Internet at your fingertips, if you don't believe me. Orwell did warn of certain trends to watch, however.
Orwell pegged the Soviet Union pretty well, with the thoughtcrime, etc. If you want a more accurate dystopian picture of the path of America, check out Huxley instead. In his future people were enslaved to totalitarian rule and were happy about it.
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notutopia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:49:10pm |
re: #441 reloadingisnotahobby
That's only at FrontSight.com. First class instruction and free gun offer.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:49:15pm |
this is the kind of thuggery that begins to emerge in the regimes that obama admires and has in mind for our country.
these are the goons that he will need to do his bidding.
when america wakes up to the oppression that obama brings, we will be confronted w/ stupid oafs like this w/ power and weapons.
interesting how obama who promises hope, already brings intimidation.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:49:19pm |
re: #526 looking closely
In MA, Glock pistols are deemed too unsafe for any civilian to own
That is just plain stupid. Nanny-statism run amok.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:51:51pm |
re: #485 philosophus invidius
According the the 2nd Amendment, each citizen has the right to carry arms--even a gun. So, unless this guy is a felon or something, he should be allowed to carry a gun so that he can defend himself against criminals. Just because we might not like this particular guy does not mean that we can pick a choose when our rights are defended. Perhaps he thinks he needs to defend the voters against some other people who might show up there.
There is no right to use weapons to intimidate voters. A number of court rulings have held that displaying a weapon in plain view near a polling station is prima facie evidence of an attempt to intimidate voters, especially if the allegiance of the offender is obvious. Ironically, many of these rulings concerned the actions of an earlier and similarly easily to identify Democratic Party auxiliary, the KuKluxKlan.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:54:08pm |
re: #531 Scion9
Orwell pegged the Soviet Union pretty well, with the thoughtcrime, etc. If you want a more accurate dystopian picture of the path of America, check out Huxley instead. In his future people were enslaved to totalitarian rule and were happy about it.
I'm glad I'm a Lizard. Lizards wear green.
Koslings wear red. Red is such a beastly color. I never want to play with Koslings.
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SecondComing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:54:45pm |
re: #478 Ben Hur
I reported earlier that the same thing happened to me, then later at a different NYC site, to my brother.
My name wasn't on the list even though I had an election card. I needed to fill out a paper ballot, though they made it seem that it would be a hassle. I did it anyway and it took 2 minutes.
Then I received emails from my bro that they weren't letting him vote because his name wasn't on the register either. I told him to fill out a paper ballot and he said one wasn't offered. I told him to go back and demand a affidavit ballot. He just went back and voted.
My wife and I tried to vote this morning. I voted but they told her that her name was on the list. I know she is registered. They tried to call the election commission but the lines were busy. They acted like she just shouldn't bother. She had to go in at 9. Luckily I am off today, so I went down to the election commission. (I saw lots of people that apparently took Obama's advise and took the day off. I didn't just a coincidence) I showed them her I.D. and said I was here to see what was going on. They said she was registered but she had to go to the Veterans Hall. I said "that's where I just came from and they said she wasn't registered." Pretty odd, but she gave me her registration number and I went back and filled out an affidavit ballot for her and left it there for her(when I brought her number back to the polling place this was happening to quite a lot of people). Then brought her I.D. to her at work. She's voting when she gets off. Fighting for every vote!
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:55:16pm |
re: #534 Occasional Reader
That is just plain stupid. Nanny-statism run amok.
And makes no sense. I own two, and they are easy to shoot, easy to clean, and very safe. You can have a mag in, a round chambered, and basically throw it at a wall and it won't go off accidentally.
Well, not that I'd recommend that particular test. :-)
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NeedleStack Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:55:40pm |
Made the front page of the liberal leaning digg:
Black Panthers Intimidating Voters
Goes to show that not everyone is so ideological that they can't see right and wrong. Though sure, a few are that way.
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Bob Dillon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:56:54pm |
Remember to Buzz this Up! (at the top of the thread) only 5 so far!
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:58:07pm |
re: #534 Occasional Reader
That is just plain stupid. Nanny-statism run amok.
MA is one of those states with a "safe list" of guns that are OK to use. There are all sorts of asinine requirements for gun compliance, such as redundant serial numbers, redundant safeties, drop testing, melting temperature of the gun (I kid you not), accuracy requirements, etc.
If its a "cool" or desireable new gun, chances are pretty good its not legal in MA.
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NoSubmission Tue, Nov 4, 2008 12:58:27pm |
Look at the effect Obama is already having on America. I expect a whole lot more creepy crawlies soon.
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:00:37pm |
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Arbalest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:01:23pm |
re: #400 ladycatnip
If this is indeed a relevant path, most of the election workers at my voting place were Chinese. In 2004, I think that most were Indian (Indian Cultural Center). In 2000, Vietnamese. In each case, it seems that the organization hosting the voting activity had a significant effect. I forget the details about 1996 and 1992. But in all cases, no one was hanging around, outside the voting place entrance.
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redstateredneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:02:07pm |
re: #527 Honorary Yooper
Shep's a dipshit. Figured that out during Katrina when he was on I-10 parroting all the rumors and basically acting like an ass. I turn the TV channel when he comes on.
I watch Brit Hume at 5:00 and then tune Shep out. What isn't rehashed from the 5:00 news hour just seems like tabloid news anyway.
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Hydrocarbon Hank Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:02:34pm |
Thug politics...this stuff makes me furious. I feel like we're in a complete tailspin.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:03:15pm |
re: #384 hazzyday
I live in Seattle in Jim McDermott's district. He didn't get my vote.
I pity all of you Seattelites who have to contend with the fact that McDermott's seemingly in for life. Steve Beren seems to be worth contender, but the People's sub-Republic of Fremont hold WAY too much sway to ever allow for that to change.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:04:15pm |
re: #549 Quad Mocha Matti
I pity all of you Seattelites who have to contend with the fact that McDermott's seemingly in for life. Steve Beren seems to be a worthy contender, but the People's sub-Republic of Fremont hold WAY too much sway to ever allow for that to change.
Corrected.
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cardiacmont Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:10:11pm |
Hannity's great friend and WWII vet has passed.
My prayers for Marty's family.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:16:27pm |
re: #552 cardiacmont
Hannity's great friend and WWII vet has passed.
My prayers for Marty's family.
Yep!
Marty was true American hero, and a great friend of Seans...
See ya when I get there ...Marty! RIP
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Just sayin... Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:25:41pm |
You know, if this crap were taking place in an election in Darfur, Jimmah Carter would be all over this.
By the way, where is the Worst President in History these days?
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winston06 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:26:37pm |
re: #167 Noam Chumpski
I am not an American. But I wish I were one and then I'd join NRA and then the US armed forces and serve the US in any possible capacity.
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NeedleStack Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:26:55pm |
Nothing much happens, but good to see they were removed.
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RaiderDan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:38:07pm |
By the way. I just sent that video from ElectionJournal, posted on YouTube to CNN (go under "contact us" and then select "news tips"), under the title "Must See Video! White Armed Thugs Intimidate Minority Voters!"
Figure that way some flunky assistant producer might at least OPEN the video...
Evidently, even though this video is all over their rival FOX, CNN doesn't see fit to do a story. Doesn't fit the liberal narrative they want to project.
Sad. Truly 2008 is the year journalism died.
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:40:09pm |
re: #554 Just sayin...
You know, if this crap were taking place in an election in Darfur, Jimmah Carter would be all over this.
By the way, where is the Worst President in History these days?
Um, if you mean Woody Wilson or F'ing Dumba$$ Redistributionist, I think they're no longer with us, perhaps physically, but frighteningly very much alive in spirit. If you mean Mr. Peanut, well, frankly, it seems like he should have shaken his mortal coil years ago...
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hazzyday Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:45:18pm |
re: #480 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I heard this on the radio and it was so that the Democrats could overvote and not be observed and that it has been going on for years.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:52:03pm |
re: #555 winston06
I am not an American. But I wish I were one and then I'd join NRA and then the US armed forces and serve the US in any possible capacity.
A certain Winston was given honorary American citizenship ...
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iceman1960 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:58:06pm |
In my neighborhood we'd turn that knight stick into a butt plug in about 2 seconds.
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Spiny Norman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 1:58:24pm |
re: #170 Walter L. Newton
And I don't know if it is grass roots grown, or some actual encouragement from the Dems.
I suspect it's home grown. The clever thing about Obama and his campaign, he has managed to throw down just the right ideas that cause people to take a lead and go further with the idea, all at the same time, Obama has enough distance to claim plausible denialability that he or his campaign has started anything.
It's dangerous.
That's also why his political mentor Billy Ayers was never convicted of anything. Barry has learned his lessons well.
Guilty as hell and free as a bird.
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Spiny Norman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 2:01:13pm |
re: #522 Griffon
It amazes me how many people have no idea how this financial crisis came about and who is to blame for it. Bush is the president so it must be all his fault. And they don't WANT to hear the truth.
If you try, their eyes glaze over. Or they call you a racist for "blaming poor people!"
Huh?
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BigMoo Tue, Nov 4, 2008 2:06:54pm |
Ya know, Hitler had goons with clubs standing around on election day...and they wore fancy looking 'flair' like the guy in the video did.
What a country...
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onlinegangsta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 2:20:47pm |
Wow...A Office Space reference and one with Hitler. I'm impressed. :)
Just got back from voting in the people's republic of New Jersey.
A smooth process, waited around 10 minutes and done.
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Code Red 21 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 2:34:54pm |
These guys are probably trying out to be part of the civilian security force BO wants to put in place if, God forbid, he gets elected.
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Voton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 3:12:56pm |
I'm sure President-elect Sock Monkey will be issuing a strongly worded statement condemning there tactics. Tee hee!
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grumpy old codger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 3:37:07pm |
Maybe these are just a few of The O's Civilian Service Corps, who showed up for work early!
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martelbrigade Tue, Nov 4, 2008 3:38:48pm |
You don't understand. It is different. It is okay because they are black. In Obama-land it means never having to say you're sorry.
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Captain Amercia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:03:11pm |
This happened not far from where I work. There is way more of this attitude out there in sections of Philly than the suburban liberals will ever admit. Trickle up poverty- coming soon to a suburb near you.
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grahamski Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:21:04pm |
Ooooh, they are scary...I would bang their heads together like Moe.
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grahamski Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:25:29pm |
re: #526 looking closely
In MA, Glock pistols are deemed too unsafe for any civilian to own. . .yet they are standard issue for most of the State police officers.
The ability to get a concealed carry permit in MA is HIGHLY dependent on the individual whims of the Chief Law enforcement officer in your given town.
In Boston, they are really only issued to a small number of people in select classes (that includes lawyers and doctors).
In Brookline MA, NOBODY gets to carry concealed. . .the Brookline Chief of Police reportedly even refuses to let his own off duty police officers carry guns!
Why would a Glock be considered too unsafe to own?
I have a Glock 21 SF...very fine weapon...Not as nice as my Kimber45, but still a very nice pistol.
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