Election Day, Thread 8

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Politics • Tue Nov 4, 2008 at 5:42 pm PST • Views: 276

Another thread for electoral wrangling and persiflage…

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1 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:44:07pm

The PA call is BS

2 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:44:41pm

How many decades will it take to undue the damage the Left will create after this?

3 vxbush  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:44:44pm

Charles, THANK YOU SO MUCH for taking care of us tonight. You so totally rock!

4 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:44:50pm

I'll see you in the morning. LGF = way too slow.

5 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:45:14pm

With 3 comments, I call this thread for McCain as well!

6 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:45:20pm

I'm calling VA for McCain.

7 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:45:25pm

I've seen 0bama mentioned in threads on LGF, so by MSM standards, I'm calling LGF as a pro-0bama site.

8 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:45:38pm

Good, the dinger is working for me on this thread.

I am with Sharmuta, calling PA so soon is ridiculous.

9 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:46:01pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

The PA call is BS

Calling before the bitter clingy coal miners precincts have checked in.

10 DM Glampers  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:46:04pm

Ahh! Fresh thread.

11 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:46:11pm

I am sorry to all PA lizards for my comment about PA in the last thread ...I need to get a grip ...

12 Karridine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:46:33pm

"The best-beloved of all things in My sight is JUSTICE... turn not away therefrom..."

13 ArmyWife  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:46:45pm

With no scientific data, it appears RINOs are goners, conservatives are holding on.

14 WitchDoctor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:47:06pm

lol, ABC called Pennsylvania I heard... with .37% of the vote in.

Don't drink the koolaid yet...

BTW, this new google map thing is broken. How did Burkina Faso vote? I can't tell.

15 musicman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:47:45pm

WooHoo! Oklahoma for McCain!

16 ArmyWife  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:47:45pm

Fox has McCain with 50% of the popular vote, O with 49%.

17 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:47:53pm

So the People's Republic of Philadelphia has gone for BO.

What about the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania?

18 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:47:55pm

McCain officials dispute PA being called for O.

19 DM Glampers  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:48:18pm

I want to thank everyone for watching the results for me and posting here. If I were to watch myself, I may break a lot of stuff I won't be able to replace should 0bama win.

/Fingers and toes crossed, and lots of praying tonight

20 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:48:19pm

I call shenanigans on PA.

21 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:48:26pm

Florida's catching up!

22 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:48:43pm

Parsley, sage, rosemary and persiflage.

23 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:48:49pm

Is there any way I can get rid of that map at the top of the page? I think it's slowing me down...

24 solomonpanting  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:48:52pm

McCain within 4 in Florida.

25 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:04pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

The PA call is BS

Yes it is. I'd advise everyone to be patient about PA and OH.

26 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:05pm

I'm having problems with the PA call, since it seems to be from Philly precincts. Not areas in which McCain would do well.

27 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:15pm

Hello all! I'm in Safari and it is weird. It said I needed some plug-in it won't install. Downstairs I couldn't get a comment to post. We'll see how this works.

How are you all?

If it works can you tell me how to open a new tab in Safari --i can't see any.

thanks

28 Ben Hur  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:15pm

Looks like FLA is back in play.

Good call Lizards.

29 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:25pm

re: #20 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I call shenanigans on PA.

I concur. BS

30 Quilly Mammoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:30pm

Call your friends in the Mountain and Pacific time zones. This isn't over. I think the PA call is premature. VOTE!

31 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:40pm
32 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:50pm

(reposted from the end of the last thread)

Screw the projections!

In an ordinary year, they might mean something.

This election is SO far out-of-the-ordinary, even those statisticians trying to do an honest job can't guarantee that past behavior will predict current trends.

33 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:52pm

re: #19 DM Glampers

same here. I need quiet.

34 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:49:57pm

re: #18 loppyd

McCain officials dispute PA being called for O.

check every vote.
lots of dead people , pets, cartoon characters probably voted for the O.

35 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:50:08pm

re: #14 WitchDoctor

lol, ABC called Pennsylvania I heard... with .37% of the vote in.

Don't drink the koolaid yet...

BTW, this new google map thing is broken. How did Burkina Faso vote? I can't tell.

25% of GA is in, McCain way up not called.

THE MSM IS SO FUCKED IN THE HEAD!

36 Ben Hur  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:50:37pm

Gotta go check the papers, check the papers.

37 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:50:57pm

Florida tightening, 51% O / 48% Mac with 41% reporting.

38 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:51:09pm

re: #14 WitchDoctor

lol, ABC called Pennsylvania I heard... with .37% of the vote in.

Don't drink the koolaid yet...

BTW, this new google map thing is broken. How did Burkina Faso vote? I can't tell.

The same way they always do. They're a bunch of liberials.
;)

39 Ben Hur  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:51:11pm

DUde, don't tell me that I'm the only one who saw that.

40 jonathan1984  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:51:35pm

The PA call is nothing more than psychological warfare. Period.

41 Truck Monkey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:51:39pm

Tough to get in. Happy to be here. I am calling CA for McCain.

42 itellu3times  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:51:58pm

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

McCain is going to take it.

"Heed no nightly noises." --Beorn

Please, that was Goldberry in the house of Bombadil.

43 rusty_armor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:04pm

re: #23 loppyd

Is there any way I can get rid of that map at the top of the page? I think it's slowing me down...

Hit your [esc] key after the page loads ...

44 spirochete  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:15pm

Not to be pessimistic, but looking at the Wall street Journal interactivemap, it looks like the counties that have reported are bluer than last year. The degree of blue and redness indicates what percentage of those votes went for hat candidate.

It has the 2004 map next to it. Overall, it doesn't look good. Of course, it's not over but it's gonna be a nailbiter.

Crap. On a lighter note, I did get to vote against Kerry, again!

45 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:18pm

re: #35 jcm

25% of GA is in, McCain way up not called.

FOX called GA for Mac a while ago.

46 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:28pm

Looking at the AOL FL map, as always, the D owns the urban, McC owns rural.

47 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:33pm

re: #40 jonathan1984

The PA call is nothing more than psychological warfare. Period.

FL 2000 again, bets on how long before the un-call PA?

48 Ben Hur  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:39pm

A few posts showed up twice

49 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:51pm

re: #27 ggt

Hello all! I'm in Safari and it is weird. It said I needed some plug-in it won't install. Downstairs I couldn't get a comment to post. We'll see how this works.

How are you all?

If it works can you tell me how to open a new tab in Safari --i can't see any.

thanks

New tab in safari - hold down "ctrl" and click on one of your bookmarks.

I had to learn this yesterday.

50 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:53pm

re: #45 Dar ul Harb

FOX called GA for Mac a while ago.

ABC, CBS,

51 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:52:54pm

Anyone seen Murtha news yet?

52 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:53:42pm

re: #51 arethusa

Anyone seen Murtha news yet?

Is there a prep walk?

53 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:53:43pm
54 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:53:45pm

NC is tightening. 52 O/47 Mac

55 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:54:12pm

THE WSJ MAP FOR VA, with more than half of the precincts reporting:

Mac = 52%
BHO = 47%

It's a great map, and it updates itself!

[Link: graphicsweb.wsj.com...]

56 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:54:20pm

re: #52 jcm

Is there a prep walk?

Did you mean ... perp ... walk?

57 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:54:25pm

re: #52 jcm

Is there a prep walk?

That would be nice. No, I meant results.

58 Beach Lover  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:55:07pm

re: #51 arethusa

I saw briefly that he was ahead but very low numbers available so far

59 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:55:10pm

I wonder how many Americans voted for 0bama today because they were told in not-so-uncertain terms that there would be rioting in the streets if McCain won?

60 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:55:16pm

re: #56 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Did you mean ... perp ... walk?

Okay I have fat fingers...
PHHBBBTTT!

61 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:55:23pm

More NPR "humor".. they changed three states to "to close to call" but left the O's numbers the same...

62 disunreconnected  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:55:46pm

re: #23 loppyd

Is there any way I can get rid of that map at the top of the page? I think it's slowing me down...

Pick one state out of the drop-down list and let that load.
Then it doesn't try to update them all.
Seems to speed things up a lot.

63 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:55:51pm

I'm back, starting into my second double rum and diet Coke. PA is bullshit. I'm proud to be from Georgia, though.

/okay, not from, but a voting resident.

64 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:56:02pm

how do you "control + click"? What's the "click"? (I'm so, not-apple savy)

65 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:56:35pm

Bring on the lawyers ...

66 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:56:41pm

re: #59 Cartman

I wonder how many Americans voted for 0bama today because they were told in not-so-uncertain terms that there would be rioting in the streets if McCain won?

0.

Americans don't take well to intimidation.

67 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:56:46pm

re: #49 reine.de.tout

ah! thanks

68 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:56:53pm

I just wanna bitchslap that pansy Bill Kristol.

69 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:56:58pm
70 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:57:16pm
71 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:57:19pm

re: #64 ggt

how do you "control + click"? What's the "click"? (I'm so, not-apple savy)

left mouse click

72 Inquisitive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:57:32pm

re: #19 DM Glampers

I want to thank everyone for watching the results for me and posting here. If I were to watch myself, I may break a lot of stuff I won't be able to replace should 0bama win.

/Fingers and toes crossed, and lots of praying tonight


I told my hubby not to get to upset if he heard me throwing things here in the living room after he went to bed...just warning him...so he doesn't come out and walk in front of a flying object...

73 RightLogic  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:57:41pm

My hopes are now drawn to having the Republicans hold onto a fillibuster minority. This will be the only check in place to prevent the socialist and liberals from running wild.

74 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:58:04pm
75 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:58:16pm

re: #73 RightLogic

My hopes are now drawn to having the Republicans hold onto a fillibuster minority. This will be the only check in place to prevent the socialist and liberals from running wild.

They will if Landrieu loses LA ...

76 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:58:35pm

In G-d's country with my babies. . .too freaking scary at home, called in for tomorrow. . .took people to the polls, voted McCain. . .got the HELL out of Grant Park!

77 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:59:12pm

re: #64 ggt

how do you "control + click"? What's the "click"? (I'm so, not-apple savy)

ctrl key lower left, click with the mouse or track pad button.

78 Junior  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:59:20pm

Guys - its done. McCain will lost CO.

We're going to get what we voted for.

Get ready America.

79 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:59:25pm

re: #63 doppelganglander

I'm back, starting into my second double rum and diet Coke. PA is bullshit. I'm proud to be from Georgia, though.

/okay, not from, but a voting resident.

Do you have a recipe for that double rum and diet Coke? I could use one right now.

80 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 5:59:57pm

Somebody make me feel good about Ohio.

81 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:00:09pm

Just keep hoping, just keep hoping, just keep hoping...

82 summergurl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:00:17pm

There's probably Mc Cain lawyers in PA right now yelling " I THINK NOT!" It's won't be settled easily

83 Pitiricus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:00:18pm

The Florida vote is very close now (less than 5000 votes)... And the panhandle is McCain country...

84 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:00:23pm

if mccain doesn't win this thing, i am cleaning house.
i will sweep my fcking stupid liberal friends right out the door.

85 Hobbes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:00:44pm

re: #80 scratch

Somebody make me feel good about Ohio.

Lawyers!

86 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:00:49pm

re: #63 doppelganglander

I'm back, starting into my second double rum and diet Coke. PA is bullshit. I'm proud to be from Georgia, though.

/okay, not from, but a voting resident.

Hey doppel! -- are we on for Sunday?

87 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:01:01pm

Top of the hour, polls closed, votes uncounted, Obama wins five states.

88 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:01:10pm

Not even trying to hide it.

MSNBC Promo: 'Experience the Power of Change'

89 BigJohn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:01:14pm

re: #4 JamesTKirk

I'll see you in the morning. LGF = way too slow.

You are rude.

90 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:01:28pm

Brit Hume is an asshat, calling states 30 seconds after the polls close. Fox News sux.

91 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:01:30pm

It's too freakin' early to tell. I'm not looking at any maps until at least 10pm.

I just hope we don't have to endure any recounts this year. I don't want to hear about hanging chads.

92 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:01:56pm
93 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:01:56pm

re: #79 arethusa

Do you have a recipe for that double rum and diet Coke? I could use one right now.

Take a 16 oz. glass, add a handful of ice, pour about 4 fingers of rum, add a 12 oz. can of diet Coke. If you can pour the entire can, you probably didn't use enough rum.

94 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:05pm

OK, Fox called OH. Now I'm worried.

95 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:16pm

Fox just called Ohio for O...then back tracked

96 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:22pm

When do the calls the great red overflight zone come in?

97 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:23pm

re: #62 disunreconnected

Pick one state out of the drop-down list and let that load.
Then it doesn't try to update them all.
Seems to speed things up a lot.

Thank you! I'll give it a whirl.

98 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:24pm
99 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:41pm

re: #19 DM Glampers

I want to thank everyone for watching the results for me and posting here. If I were to watch myself, I may break a lot of stuff I won't be able to replace should 0bama win.

/Fingers and toes crossed, and lots of praying tonight

I'm just trying to not go into premature labor.
I'm in PA-the turnout was high in the suburbs in the AM but dwindling once it started raining. Plus, the lawn signs were 50-50 where I live, which was not true four years ago when it was heavily Kerry.

I also heard that Pittsburgh's county was leaning red.

It's not over yet.

100 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:46pm

re: #93 doppelganglander

Take a 16 oz. glass, add a handful of ice, pour about 4 fingers of rum, add a 12 oz. can of diet Coke. If you can pour the entire can, you probably didn't use enough rum.

Got it! Thanks!

101 Beach Lover  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:46pm

they called OH then took it away...WTH?

102 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:57pm

re: #80 scratch

Somebody make me feel good about Ohio.

baseball hall of fame?

or is that the Rock n Roll Hall of fame?

103 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:02:57pm

re: #94 arethusa

OK, Fox called OH. Now I'm worried.

They just un-called it.

These early calls are bullshit on stilts.

104 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:03:04pm

re: #86 Lucius Septimius

Hey doppel! -- are we on for Sunday?

Yes! Either way, we are going to need it!

105 Steffan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:03:05pm

re: #44 spirochete

Not to be pessimistic, but looking at the Wall street Journal interactivemap, it looks like the counties that have reported are bluer than last year. The degree of blue and redness indicates what percentage of those votes went for hat candidate.

It has the 2004 map next to it. Overall, it doesn't look good. Of course, it's not over but it's gonna be a nailbiter.

Crap. On a lighter note, I did get to vote against Kerry, again!

If they're using exit polling (the MSM loves it), you can bet that Obama will be declared the winner before the polls close in CA. You'll note that they've called PA for Obama with 0% (that's zero percent) reporting.

... And then the actual returns start coming in... heh.

CNN had footage of some yutz who admitted voting more than once for Obama...

106 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:03:15pm

wtf is wrong w/ fox?
so eager to fold for O

107 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:03:19pm

re: #80 scratch

Somebody make me feel good about Ohio.

See for yourself...

108 snowcrash  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:03:23pm

re: #94 arethusa
Britt said it was a error.

109 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:03:43pm
110 Hobbes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:04:13pm

Oh God! Fox has got Axelrod on now and he's smirking...slimy ba...!

111 jonathan1984  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:04:33pm

re: #108 snowcrash

There's an understatement.

112 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:04:38pm

In VA, blue counties getting bluer vs. 2004 numbers, red counties getting less red. The wave from the cities is cresting, however, and we might squeak through in VA. NoVA going all blue, as expected.

113 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:05:17pm

Is this the alternative universe Fox? WTF?

114 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:06:13pm

Did FOX also pull back Michigan? That's the only way I can explain their electoral vote total.

115 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:06:18pm

Murthas district (12th):
[Link: www.electionreturns.state.pa.us...]

116 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:06:18pm

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

I am so f*cking tired of this "making history" crap.

Everything is history, eventually--even if it is not unusual or exciting.

Someone told me today that "either way, it will be historical"

I thought WTF?

So, WTF? Is that so important? Isn't every election historical?

/It reminds me of --"But the rest of the world doesn't like us."

117 vegasjew  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:06:20pm

obama has a rock solid 257 if mac wins fla/nc/ind/va/ohio tough
and MO easier
nev 5 colo9 iowa 7
still on the table
bad bad

118 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:06:40pm

re: #114 arethusa

Did FOX also pull back Michigan? That's the only way I can explain their electoral vote total.

Yes... I believe they did.

119 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:06:43pm

Thanks to all of you for helping get us all through this. . .I have not had th etv on all day. . .

120 lazlo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:06:45pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

lololol

121 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:07:08pm

re: #110 Hobbes

Oh God! Fox has got Axelrod on now and he's smirking...slimy ba...!

I made the BF change the channel.

I won't watch that thug.

122 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:07:10pm

I thought H.V. Kaltenborn was dead, but apparently he's alive, well, and calling elections for the MSM.

*SPIT*

123 lazlo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:07:23pm

Obama leading in VA

124 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:07:54pm

I've got CNN on and they're fawning all over themselves pulling for the 0.

125 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:08:04pm
126 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:08:07pm

re: #113 livefreeor die

Is this the alternative universe Fox? WTF?

That's the only explanation that makes any sense at all...

127 eon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:08:16pm

re: #80 scratch

Somebody make me feel good about Ohio.

Within 2 years Governor Strickland will need an entirely new cabinet?

/because most of the present one will either be back teaching law or in jail

cheers

eon

128 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:08:45pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

Whatever you do, John, don't even THINK of conceding!

fight these thieves.
make them prove it.

129 Steffan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:09:18pm

re: #55 Intrepid

THE WSJ MAP FOR VA, with more than half of the precincts reporting:

Mac = 52%
BHO = 47%

It's a great map, and it updates itself!

[Link: graphicsweb.wsj.com...]

Hmmm. Michigan was called for Obama, but Mac is currently ahead... interesting.

130 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:09:25pm

re: #123 lazlo

Obama leading in VA

I see McCain ahead in VA.

131 Parker in US  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:09:31pm

The MSM has forgot the egg they got on their face calling races on exit poll data in 04. Thats how they are calling PA.

132 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:10:10pm

re: #110 Hobbes

Oh God! Fox has got Axelrod on now and he's smirking...slimy ba...!

I'd like one shot at wiping the smirk off his filthy crumbcatcher mustache.

133 AmericanPoliticalOrphan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:10:17pm

It's time to start drinking!

134 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:10:30pm

Kerry is in a hotel in Boston watching the returns come in.

I take great pleasure in knowing that he is most definitely remembering being in a hotel on election eve in '04 and being told "actually, we take it back - you didn't win"

BWAAAHAHAHAHA

135 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:10:45pm
136 BaseballMom57  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:11:02pm

Damn low carb diets. I can't drink beer or wine. I could break out the wodka, though...but that would mean I wouldn't wake up until Sarah runs for POTUS...hmmm...what to do, what to do?

137 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:11:13pm

re: #129 Steffan

Hmmm. Michigan was called for Obama, but Mac is currently ahead... interesting.

Someone said they pulled back MI too.

I'm so confused...

138 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:11:37pm

re: #136 BaseballMom57

Damn low carb diets. I can't drink beer or wine. I could break out the wodka, though...but that would mean I wouldn't wake up until Sarah runs for POTUS...hmmm...what to do, what to do?

/painkillers...

139 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:11:54pm

I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .re: #130 astronmr20

I see McCain ahead in VA.

I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .

140 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:12:05pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

Whatever you do, John, don't even THINK of conceding!

If his numbers are telling a different story he won't.

141 DisgustingOratory  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:12:17pm

Uuuugh... my obamabot friend wants me to go drink beers with him... he's so exited... Mac you better win this thing...

142 Hobbes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:12:34pm

re: #132 doppelganglander

I'd like one shot at wiping the smirk off his filthy crumbcatcher mustache.

LOL

143 BaseballMom57  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:12:44pm

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

I am so f*cking tired of this "making history" crap.

Everything is history, eventually--even if it is not unusual or exciting.

I agree - I have also banned the words "change" and "hope" from my household. They make me hurl.

144 SFGoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:12:47pm

Better visit Israel while you still can.

145 jim_beam  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:12:57pm

:@ NOOO

146 RedVoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:13:18pm

so much for McCain and his support for amnesty, Hispanics aren't buying it. should have secured the borders while you still could. The Dems played the race card and succeeded even against an amnesty proponent like McCain.

and Brit Hume is cracking me up, he's acting drunk. lol.

pray for McCain and keep hope the Dems don't reach 60.

147 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:13:20pm

sigh

148 Radar  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:13:22pm

Man I hope my Keystone state turns red tonight. The PA call is total BS. With only 2% precincts reporting and a whole lot of PUMAS left to account for...it ain't over yet. Of course Philly goes Obama. Slick Eddie had that one wrapped up, though I bet he had to choke back bile doing it since he had been a Hillary supporter (IIRC). Gotta get another glass of Scotch...

149 jim_beam  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:13:43pm

BOLF

150 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:13:48pm

re: #104 doppelganglander

Yes! Either way, we are going to need it!

That's for dadgummed sure.

151 pegcity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:14:03pm

well i guess the mission to hit iran is a go after tonight

152 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:14:18pm

So, OH?

153 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:14:39pm

re: #151 pegcity

well i guess the mission to hit iran is a go after tonight

I wouldn't be surprised in the least.

154 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:14:42pm

For God's sake, WSJ is calling Michigan for Obie despite McCain being ahead 52-46. Are they really that eager to look stupid?

155 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:15:15pm

How are OH and FL doing?

156 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:15:16pm

The MSM sucks, and that includes Fox. I'm refusing to watch TV tonight.

157 SFGoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:15:17pm

We're not going to hit Iran. Bush should have learned the lesson by now -- if the masses don't want to stop evil, they can deal with the consequences down the road.

158 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:15:20pm
159 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:15:40pm

re: #136 BaseballMom57

Damn low carb diets. I can't drink beer or wine. I could break out the wodka, though...but that would mean I wouldn't wake up until Sarah runs for POTUS...hmmm...what to do, what to do?

Break out the vodka.

160 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:15:54pm

MI is close? Wow!

161 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:15:55pm

They call it, then they can take it back?
Why call it until it's sure?
I wish I could get away with this at work.

162 Maui Girl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:16:16pm

I've never understood how the media calls a state before all the votes are in. The popular votes shows McCain ahead but the Big O has 200 EV's and McCain, 81 EV? Confusing.

163 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:16:20pm

re: #154 doppelganglander

For God's sake, WSJ is calling Michigan for Obie despite McCain being ahead 52-46. Are they really that eager to look stupid?

NPR is outdoing them... after changing some states to "to close to call" and not giving McCain credit for states where he is way and on top of that not subtracting from the O's number I'd say they've got a lock on stupidest map coverage so far...

164 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:16:45pm

PA STILL listed for the one. . .

165 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:16:49pm

john Bolton just joined the bbc panel.This should be interesting

166 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:16:53pm
Remember in 2000 how the media called the election for Gore, causing many people to stay home? Remember how the media and its polls always overstated the Obama votes in the primary. Or, how the media yelled at Hillary Clinton demanded she drop out of the race?

BEWARE OF THE MEDIA EXIT "Polls", whispers and States called. They lied to us before—believe they will lie again.

Too much is at stake.

Beware of Media Bias on Election Day

167 Izzy Dunne  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:17:16pm

Persiflage: light and slightly contemptuous mockery or banter.

--- just had to see if I was qualified...

168 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:17:31pm
169 albusteve  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:18:12pm

re: #70 Iron Fist

We may not ever get over these next four years. Obama will change America forever. It's just that he won't change it for good.

easy bro...let's have a beer

170 vegasjew  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:18:39pm

mac down 202k fla
mac down 100k nc
with obama winning 95-5 in AA vote
mccain has to go 57-43 to win
only way he could have was to get Hillary to be VP
on unity ticket
Hillary won the last few primaries but she was a D
there are not enough white D's to vote R

171 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:18:48pm

re: #164 DisturbedEma

PA STILL listed for the one. . .

I'm looking at the WSJ's map and McC's behind in a few counties that were solid red last time.

172 outsidephilly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:18:50pm

re: #139 DisturbedEma

I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .

I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .



Hope you don't mind my echo . . . ,
I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .I am SOOO glad I am not watching. . .and wonder if I will ever watch it again. . .already cancelled my newspaper for the same reason. . .hmmm Yahoo still has PA for the one. . .

173 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:19:00pm
174 Sevoguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:19:26pm

One Thought if McCain loses tonight:

Fox just called Ohio for Obama. Obummer.

I voted for Jimmy Carter back in 1976. I regreted that during those four years he screwed up the country. I remember 21% interest rates, 18% inflation, the desimation of our military and the Iranian hostage crisis.

This thought just popped into my head: We became a stronger country after the Carter Presidency. Thanks to Reagan. So if McCain/Palin lose tonight, I will hold onto my wallet and pray that BHO doesn't destroy the country as Carter did.

We will comeback a stronger nation.

175 Salem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:19:30pm

re: #131 Parker in US

The MSM has forgot the egg they got on their face calling races on exit poll data in 04. Thats how they are calling PA.

I don't think they're worried about it. Whatever they lose in sponsership they'll be compensated for by Soros and the Sauds.

176 RedVoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:19:38pm

looks like that's it. Ohio called for Obama by Fox.

Save the Senate Filibuster...

177 SFGoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:20:03pm

re: #168 Iron Fist

I am afraid you are right. The majority of the population has completely forgotten about 9-11. They are more concerned that we don't hurt the terrorist's little feelings than stopping him from blowing up a building or hijacking a plane.

No, they are against nation building. That's the lesson of Iraq. Bush thought that "because" Muslims worship the same god as Jews and Christians (sorta like they belong to a different civic league, but it's a civic league) that when freed from tyranny, they'd be like the rest of us. Not. Then there's the cost in $ and bodies. Frankly, the bodies is a very low # historically, but the cost is really hurting us. So we're not going to hit Iran because you break it, you pay for it, and Iran can't hit us now.

178 Pitiricus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:21:11pm

Florida is tight... But I hope the panhandle will help!

179 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:23:18pm

re: #168 Iron Fist

Iam afraid you are right. The majority of the population has completelyforgotten about 9-11. They are more concerned that we don't hurt theterrorist's little feelings than stopping him from blowing up abuilding or hijacking a plane.

Actually, most polls and voter interviews have shown me that this is a one-issue election, at least for Obama voters: which candidate has promised to lower my taxes most. As if the President writes the tax code.

I wonder if they will remember why they voted the way they did, when the magical tax cuts don't happen.

180 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:23:49pm

re: #174 Sevoguy

One Thought if McCain loses tonight:

Fox just called Ohio for Obama. Obummer.

I voted for Jimmy Carter back in 1976. I regreted that during those four years he screwed up the country. I remember 21% interest rates, 18% inflation, the desimation of our military and the Iranian hostage crisis.

This thought just popped into my head: We became a stronger country after the Carter Presidency. Thanks to Reagan. So if McCain/Palin lose tonight, I will hold onto my wallet and pray that BHO doesn't destroy the country as Carter did.

We will comeback a stronger nation.

Yeah, but Carter was just a well-meaning idiot, not an avowed Marxist. I just hope Nancy Pelosi's utterly inept management of the House Democrats keeps Obie from accomplishing anything until we can get a Republican majority in both houses in 2010 (which I promise you will happen if he wins).

181 VioletTiger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:24:59pm

Riddle me this batman...how can they call O states with 2% vote in, but not M states with 50% in?

182 pegcity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:25:04pm

anyone else here feel like throwing up?

183 Pitiricus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:25:10pm

It's going to be a tough 4 years...

184 REMESSIS  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:25:39pm

This is how freedom dies... with thunderous applause

185 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:26:03pm

re: #182 pegcity

anyone else here feel like throwing up?

Mostly I feel like spitting at the screen.

186 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:26:32pm

re: #181 VioletTiger

Riddle me this batman...how can they call O states with 2% vote in, but not M states with 50% in?

'cause their lips are locked on O's ass, hoping to get a ride on the plane.

187 jim_beam  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:27:19pm

I'm moving to conservative Canada

188 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:28:10pm

re: #182 pegcity

anyone else here feel like throwing up?


I already threw up.

189 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:28:33pm

I'm just about ready to say we are officially F-ed.

My guess if vote fraud will push O over the top.

190 RightLogic  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:28:40pm

Can I be the first to say, Barack Obama - worse president ever!

191 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:28:40pm

re: #182 pegcity

anyone else here feel like throwing up?

Projectile-like.

192 Dahveed  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:29:32pm

I think that assuming 0bama wins that the people that voted for him will regret that vote within a year of the election. He has given the Hope/Change mantra so much that people will expect it. And the fact is that he won't do anything. There won't be healthcare for everyone, he won't pull the troops out of Iraq, people will notice that he has no ability to run an administration.

I think two years from now we will see a big change in Congress towards conservatism much like the Clinton years.

193 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:29:38pm

re: #173 FrogMarch

Some information on Wisconsin.

What I should have titled "Voter Corruption in Wisconsin."

194 SFGoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:30:15pm

re: #190 RightLogic

Can I be the first to say, Barack Obama - worse president ever!

That's impossible.

195 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:30:23pm

re: #191 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Projectile-like.

Yup.

196 jim_beam  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:30:48pm

Ya I'm gonna puke this is ridiculous

197 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:30:55pm

It aint over.

Do no trust the media.

198 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:31:53pm
199 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:31:59pm

re: #190 RightLogic

Can I be the first to say, Barack Obama - worse president ever!

Racist

200 RedVoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:32:41pm

I Obama wins Ohio by less than 200,000 votes, McCain better file a suit. remember those 200,000 suspicious registrations the Secretary of State refused to cross check. The courts evenutally sided with her.

201 aaron01  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:33:51pm

McCain with a slight lead in Ohio according to Secretary of State webpage. Franklin County (Columbus) not reporting yet.

202 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:34:17pm
203 Emery Calame  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:34:37pm

Ah shit. Murtha's up to 55%.

204 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:35:16pm

Allow me to describe the perfect storm of my frustration:

- American voters seem about to elect Obama president
- They also deliver a larger majority in the house
- They also grant him close to a super-majority in the Senate
- And, to top it all off--and this is the kicker--with this slate of almost complete power, they will take responsibility for absolutely nothing, because EVERYTHING will be George W. Bush's fault for the next 4 years at least. They are in the dream seat.

205 monkey den  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:36:59pm

America will only become weaker over the next 4 years

206 Granite Eagle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:37:22pm

Funny how the maps show states too close to call but they are already called...2% reporting to me is not a state...50% to me is barely showing a trend...

We will have a reversal before the night is over.

MI is a surprise...

There are just waaayyy too many states that have little to no precint reporting for it to be called..

You would think the old media would have learned their lesson...

207 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:37:38pm

1917
2008

208 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:38:12pm

Retch. . .

209 RightLogic  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:38:47pm

re: #199 FightingBack

So be it.

210 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:39:24pm

On behalf of sensible Michiganders, I would like to apologize to the whole of the United States for the re-election of Carl Levin.

211 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:39:40pm

here at the end of all things. . .I am glad you are all here. . .

212 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:40:11pm

bbl

213 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:40:20pm

re: #210 Irish Rose

On behalf of sensible Michiganders, I would like to apologize to the whole of the United States for the re-election of Carl Levin.

You might make up for it with McC.

214 lazlo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:40:41pm

re: #204 scratch

And you would absolutely accurate about who's fault this mess is.

BOO-YAH!

215 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:41:03pm

re: #213 Badge of Kaffir Pride

You might make up for it with McC.


Your lips to Gods ear!

216 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:41:30pm

re: #202 Iron Fist

...I don't thinkmost of them really understand how far Left Obama is.

Bingo. I have said for weeks, if most voters were very liberal and wanted a very liberal President, then I would feel better about this. But I really think they either don't know how liberal he is, or they don't know what it means to be liberal.

217 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:41:47pm

More NPR madness:
New Mexico called for and added to the O's total but... 3% reporting with McCain ahead 57/42...
Yargle...

218 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:43:45pm
219 disunreconnected  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:43:49pm

Wonder if the libs and nutroots will be as gracious in their winning as they have been over the past 8 years of BDS?

220 Arby Dwiar  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:30pm

re: #192 Dahveed

Updinged you on that one - and good points, all of them. Without a super-majority, he won't be able to "accomplish" much of what he wanted to do.

The founding fathers were true geniuses...

221 Percopius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:38pm

If we lose, we lose. The world will go on. Everything that happens from now on will be the democrats to own. They will succeed or fail. They were in our position many times more than we, and they clawed back to win it all (if that is the case). WE are the anti-establishment.

222 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:49pm
223 Granite Eagle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:06pm

re: #203 Emery Calame

Ah shit. Murtha's up to 55%.


Shows:
#1 True Liberal elitism. (his comments and B-Ho's many, many comments)
#2 People really are that stupid...

Really now...people like being called racist and redneck?...sheeple WT(holy)F!

224 VioletTiger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:53pm

WTF? Why did they bother having the election if they can call states with hardly any votes. Would have saved us all a lot of effort.

225 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:34pm

:)

226 Elle Plater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:05pm

The gap seems to be closing in Florida

227 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:19pm
228 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:50pm

Um,

What's Ken Starr doing these days, anybody know?

229 MTNester  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:02pm

re: #226 Elle Plater

The gap seems to be closing in Florida

That's because the panhandle votes are finally coming in. :-)

230 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:15pm

Ok, OH? I am confused. . .

231 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:55pm

No PUMAS?

232 SFGoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:55:35pm

PUMAS were elitists. They could afford their own gas and mortgage. Rank & file entitlists outnumber them.

233 RightLogic  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:41pm

re: #218 Iron Fist

We need to work as hard as we can to make his Administration a living hell. After all, he isn't just a candidate, he's a god. He needs to quit slacking and make America a utopia with pixie dust and unicorns.

I hope that the Senate Republicans fight him tooth and nail when necessary. While the Senate is suppose to be the more temperate side of Congress, I expect every Republican Senator to filibuster any attempt to diminish America's standing as an economic and military superpower. We need to make life for Obama hard when he strays to far to the left.

Lets just hope that the RNC has their act together for 2010.

234 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:26pm

Gottenyu!

235 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:32pm

So, mercy me. . .I will most likely lose my job by year's end. . .hell, month's end. . .

236 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:13pm
237 captkirk35  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:51pm

NOBAMA

238 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:08pm

No supermajority. Denver Post called CO for Obama, Fox won't. Unlike most states, the rural vote here is much more dem than the large metro areas, and the big cities are much more to the right. The city vote comes in last.

239 Kiernan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:43pm

It's 9:45pm Eastern Time as I write this. And it's obvious Obama has won.
Karl Rove called it for the "One" yesterday.
"In an electoral college map prediction posted on his website yesterday, "Rove & Co", gives the race to Obama by a margin of 338-200 electoral college votes. "
[Link: www.rove.com...]

I don't see why pretending is going to help.

I voted for McCain (and living in Massachusetts I knew my vote wouldn't matter in the electoral college,) but I think you guys need to face reality.

1) The stock market crashed.
2) Bush has the lowest presidential approval rates in my memory.
3) Not too many people are happy with the way the wars are going in the Middle East.
4) Oil prices have gone crazy.
5) The automotive sector announced things haven't been this bad since 1945.
6) Many minorities and young people were actually excited about voting, and they didn't vote for the old white guy.
7) The MSM was totally in the tank for Obama.

I can think of dozens of other reasons, including McCain ran a terrible campaign.

Anyway, the pendulum has to swing. Eight years of Clinton, eight years of Bush 43, and now? Well it's time for Obama to get his chance.


I feel sad for McCain. If things had gone a bit differently he might have been President in 2000, instead of the current occupant. I think he would have made some different choices in the Mideast...but that only happened in some alternate reality.

Barring a miracle, the fat lady has sung.

240 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:52pm

Kiernan is ready to rush to judgement. I'm not.

241 avspatti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:21pm

re: #184 REMESSIS

This is how freedom dies... with thunderous applause

Truth, that. I don't think we will ever get our country back if Americans are so clueless that they would put a man like this in the presidency. Until tonight, I thought that the American common sense would prevail. Freedom is being lost by selfish people who care only for themselves. Unspeakably sad.

242 Frank Veracity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:43pm

Well, my plan if the big zero does win is to cash in my IRA and take the tax hit this year before the taxes go way up. Then I'm going to keep my money in a very low interst account to prevent having to pay taxes on it. I'm old enough to file for Social Security benefits for myself and my wife so I'll shut down my consulting business and only work enough to cover my mortgage payments. That should allow me to escape the big zeros tax increases while also not funding any of his spending.

Who is John Gault? We all are (or should be).

243 Roland O'Gilead  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:08pm

I've been running estimates all night. Calculating the % reporting versus how much the unreported precincts would have to shift in McCain's favor to turn the tide.

I'll say from here (with a heavy heart) that Florida and North Carolina, and potentially Virginia, are losses.

Now, I have work to do, and a life to get on with.

Palin in 12.

244 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:18pm

Congratulations, Comrades. Won't you all join me in welcoming Dear Leader?

245 sleepy jesus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:54pm

Maybe the ill will form a line and he can touch their foreheads.

246 aquamari  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:49pm

I wonder how long before euphoria in this country turns into OMG - what have we just done?!?


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