Election Day, Thread 9

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Politics • Tue Nov 4, 2008 at 6:38 pm PST • Views: 289

Here’s what I wrote on February 5th:

If John McCain is the nominee, we’re going to have at least four years of a Democrat in the White House—and with some estimating that Iran will have a bomb within two years, that means we’d have a Democrat facing a nuclear-armed Iran. (Because we know they’re not going to do anything serious to stop it.)

It gives me no pleasure to see this prediction coming true.

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1 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:40:40pm

Charles, I hate to say it but you were right. It sure looks like Obama is going to win. I wanted to think that America wasn't this stupid but apparently, the general public is. Howard Stern showcased this during his interviews in Harlem. I guess we'll all be living under 4 years of Carter II.

2 RTLM  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:41:26pm

Calling Rod Serling.

3 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:41:42pm

It

Still

Ain't

Over.


VA, NC, Fla, still in play. I don't see how they have called Ohio yet

4 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:41:44pm

Charles, you are a sage.

5 apaulogist  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:41:56pm

they're calling ohio for obama. i'm pretty sure that means it's over, unfortunately...

6 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:42:29pm

Bill Ayers must be very happy tonight.

7 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:42:32pm

I removed the Google election map, because even Google's millions of servers seem to be having trouble keeping up.

8 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:43:37pm

re: #6 HelloDare
because he's going to be education secratary

9 Boxy_Brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:43:43pm

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

--Rudyard Kipling

10 Karridine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:44:01pm

My CPU is a 4-8-8-4 Challenger, but it cannot pull PJTV
AND
much of anything else, same time

11 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:44:06pm

I'm going to bed.

What a nightmare.

I can't believe that this country is electing a socialist.

12 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:44:17pm

On the plus side, there shall be no re-education camps. I mean with the MSM spoon-feeding the public 0bama's talking points non-stop, what's the purpose?

13 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:44:30pm

I DENOUNCE ALL OF YOU!

i want a bigger chocolate ration

14 bungie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:45:01pm

My husband just explained to our two labradors that we were going to have to give 10% of their dog food to the dog next door for the next four years. . . .

15 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:45:10pm

Following the VA results on WSJ, we're about to fall behind, with too much of NoVA still to be counted. There aren't enough uncounted votes in the red counties to stand up.

16 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:45:35pm

I am done with Google ...what is another good search engine ...

17 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:45:42pm

re: #9 Boxy_Brown

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
You obviously don't understand
the seriousness of the situation

-OR's dad

18 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:45:44pm

re: #6 HelloDare

Bill Ayers must be very happy tonight.

He didn't even need the Ft. Dix bomb to blow up America. A Manchurian candidate's enough.

19 pegcity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:45:59pm

move to Saskatchewan, they need 10,000 more people, and they have a pro business governement, and the Conservatives are in Power in Canada.

20 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:00pm

How much of Chicago will burn tonight in celebration?

21 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:02pm

IT AIN'T OVER, FOLKS!

And, even if BHO wins, we must soon buck up and reorient ourselves. It will then be time to start fighting to not let our nation be taken so far to the edge of socialism/fascism/radicalism that we cannot bounce back in 2010 and 2012.

22 The Shadow Do  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:17pm

Will the moonbats get 60 in the Senate. That is the burning unanswered question now.

23 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:35pm

Charles,

Which Democrat did you have in mind when you made that comment - McCain or Obama?

/ducking

24 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:41pm

Looks like Obama didn't have to cheat after all.

25 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:44pm

We still have a man named George at the top.

George Soros Obama.
paid for by swsspposdjfyggaa

26 obscured by clouds  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:45pm

Very prescient, Charles. I echoed your sentiments at the time. On the bright side, John McCain has brought us Sarah Palin.

27 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:48pm

re: #10 Karridine

My CPU is a 4-8-8-4 Challenger, but it cannot pull PJTV
AND
much of anything else, same time

What an awesome locomotive that was.

28 pegcity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:50pm

re: #16 JacksonTn

dogpile

29 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:55pm

Channeling the Great Karnak, my next prediction:

McCain is going to concede long before he needs to.

30 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:46:57pm

What amazes me are those, including Obama, who think he will "unite the country." They have all forgotten Bush, "the uniter, not divider" - we know how well that worked. Now, if you were a Democrat looking at McCain and his record, you would have valid reasons to think that McCain would "reach across the aisle" and try to be bipartisan. If you are a Republican looking at Obama, there is absolutely no evidence that Obama can unite anything and no record of bipartisanship. Yet the MSM has convinced the majority of the electorate that up is down, black is white (NOT a racial comment!), red is green, and the sun rises in the west...

31 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:11pm

re: #21 MandyManners

IT AIN'T OVER, FOLKS!

And, even if BHO wins, we must soon buck up and reorient ourselves. It will then be time to start fighting to not let our nation be taken so far to the edge of socialism/fascism/radicalism that we cannot bounce back in 2010 and 2012.

I know I'm about to get a slap (and deserve it if wrong) but there aren't enough red votes left to count. America, as we know it, is gone.

32 ArmyWife  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:12pm

THAT IS ENOUGH. Zionist checks are all being withheld until you people buck the heck up. What are we? Conservatives or weenies? We were right yesterday, we will be right tomorrow no matter WHO is in the White House. We may have to fight harder, but we don't just give up our country like this.

33 nobamadada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:20pm

re: #14 bungie

My husband just explained to our two labradors that we were going to have to give 10% of their dog food to the dog next door for the next four years. . . .

34 witness  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:21pm

The sovereign wealth funds that control our economy now have their shill in place. Expect even more outsourcing and enforced PC brainwashing of our children and workers. Fairness doctrine is up next. These may be the last words we speak to each other without going underground. If you all think this is extreme talk, then you are deluding yourselves (witness the election coverage, it has already begun). You will all pledge allegiance to Dear Leader. The One's Nation under Nossiah.

You mad men. You destroyed freedom and your children's future.

Good night all. May God be with you.

35 LionFromZion  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:32pm

I...I Feel so very cold right now.

36 tster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:36pm

I'm glad the popular vote is so close. At least it isn't looking like any kind of "mandate" so far.

37 AussieMarcus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:37pm

I'm watching this online:

From here, the Ohio vote looks to be mostly Cleveland and the bigger cities, and PA is mostly made up of Philadelphia.
Why so despondent?

38 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:38pm

re: #22 The Shadow Do

Will the moonbats get 60 in the Senate. That is the burning unanswered question now.

NO

39 calcajun  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:38pm

Who's going to watch our new overlord's speech in Grant Park.

Fortunately, I have to take the boys to Scouts, so I'll be spared.

40 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:45pm

McCain needs to go take a nap and think about it ...

41 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:49pm

Is that a surge I see in OH?

42 sleepyone  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:51pm

I'm so depressed...

43 lawrior  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:54pm

Well, it was nice being able to voice my dissenting opinions while I could.

Charles, thank you for hosting this. Some nice men from the government will be by shortly. Remember, they are here to help!

44 nobamadada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:47:56pm

What Happened in Ohio? McCain needed Ohio.

45 noshariaincanada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:10pm

I've been getting this

The server at littlegreenfootballs.com is taking too long to respond.

far too many times today.

46 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:10pm

Slight lead for o in NC with only 57 % reporting. VA too close to call with 75% reporting

47 MacGiolaPhadraig  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:11pm

I wonder if it felt like this in Munich, 1923?

48 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:18pm

re: #15 Pullus Iulius

Following the VA results on WSJ, we're about to fall behind, with too much of NoVA still to be counted. There aren't enough uncounted votes in the red counties to stand up.

We still have 10's of thousands of military votes on hold.

49 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:22pm

re: #29 Charles

Channeling the Great Karnak, my next prediction:

McCain is going to concede long before he needs to.

Maybe Palin will tell him about how hard it is to carry a Down's Syndrome child to term. She knows the meaning of going that extra mile.

50 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:28pm

Well, Friggin Barney Fwank has been re-elected.

51 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:34pm

Michael Barone said himself that the exit polling has been way off.

52 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:56pm

How do you think Israel feels right about now ...pathetic ...

53 ziggyelman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:48:57pm

OT slightly, from the last thread, just wanted Typicalwhitey to see it...
re: #271 Typicalwhitey

My nic is blue.
Please ad me to your email list and perhaps we could chat sometime.

My nephew died for nothing.

Obama is nothing if not a man with a huge ego. If pulling out of Iraq too soon will lead to much more violence, he will make it sound like they are pulling out by a certain date, then extend it a few weeks, months...what have you. His supporters will agree to anything he does.

Any brave man or woman that fights, and dies for their country, didn't die for nothing. There is still hope for Iraq...

54 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:06pm

re: #50 CapeCoddah

Well, Friggin Barney Fwank has been re-elected.

F-ing idiots.

55 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:14pm

I have another tab open with the google map still in it, and OH is getting tighter

56 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:28pm

re: #45 noshariaincanada

I've been getting this

far too many times today.

Everyone knows it's slow. The more you mention it, the slower it will be.

57 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:31pm

re: #12 Fenway_Nation

On the plus side, there shall be no re-education camps. I mean with the MSM spoon-feeding the public 0bama's talking points non-stop, what's the purpose?

But there won't be an MSM for much longer - that may be the only bright spot! It will be replaced by ObamaVision, brought to you on ALL of your cable channels, satellite dishes, radios, and corner crier...

58 Karridine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:33pm

re: #16 JacksonTn

Dogpile

59 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:35pm

It's officially okay to be a legitimate Eeyore now, cCain has definitely left the hundred acre wood.

Vent it now, constructively and politely.

/because tomorrow is the first day of a new reality and you don't want to have a bad attitude on your first day, okay, aim for Monday

60 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:36pm

re: #31 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I know I'm about to get a slap (and deserve it if wrong) but there aren't enough red votes left to count. America, as we know it, is gone.

I just looked at the latest Electoral Count on Fox.

Shit.

61 DM Glampers  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:37pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Is that a surge I see in OH?

PLEASE elaborate.

62 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:37pm

Wasn't it Yogi Berra that said "It aint over 'till it's over"?
I don't hear the Fat Lady singing, just yet.
LOTS of votes to count.
Praying mighty hard here...
But, IT IS NOT OVER.
So, please, don't be giving up, just yet...

63 pegcity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:38pm

so when do they start installing the giant screens all over america projecting the visions of dear leader 24/7

oh yeah i see a horrible dystopian Scifi future in store.

64 mattm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:50pm

The way these states are being called is screwed up. How can the call states with so few precincts in?

I hope this is a Dewy defeats Truman situation.

65 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:49:57pm
66 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:05pm

Tomorrow is the first day of the mid-term election race.

67 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:06pm

Charles,

Which candidate do you think would have beaten Obama?

68 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:11pm

If Nobama does indeed have 200 EVs, no way he loses CA, ID, and WA. I don't understand calling MN for him. McCain has more votes there as it stands now.

69 gop_patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:24pm

re: #29 Charles

Channeling the Great Karnak, my next prediction:

McCain is going to concede long before he needs to.

Every time someone has said that tonight my stomach has turned over. That upsets me as much as thinking of an Obama presidency. gak.

70 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:31pm

Wheee!

71 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:32pm

re: #29 Charles

Channeling the Great Karnak, my next prediction:

McCain is going to concede long before he needs to.

Is that prediction stored in a hermetically sealed envelope?

72 Dominic Yeso  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:50:41pm

re: #21 MandyManners

Yep - good comment Mandy. In the mean time I'm going to reduce my income and apply for benefits.

73 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:19pm

re: #54 loppyd

F-ing idiots.

Shit Loppy, we did not get rid of ONE of the bastards!

74 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:29pm

When the pendulum swings to having more net tax receivers than net tax payers, it's very hard to convince that receving majority to give up the goodies they'll be getting from the "dastardly rich people."

Socialism is a very difficult trend to reverse. (The whole "frog-in-a-pot-of-boiling-water" scenario.)

75 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:34pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Wheee!

Killgore ... what would you like to happen in this country... I know you said you were not going to vote ... so I am just curious as to how you would like to see the country go now ...just wondering ...

76 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:36pm

AT WHAT TIME IN 2004 WAS IT CLEAR BUSH HAD WON?

77 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:43pm

I still say they shouldn't have called OH.

78 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:46pm

re: #52 JacksonTn

How do you think Israel feels right about now ...pathetic ...

They feel like mobilizing.

79 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:49pm

America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.

80 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:50pm

re: #73 CapeCoddah

Shit Loppy, we did not get rid of ONE of the bastards!

What happened to my country?

81 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:51:55pm

Ohio is still in play 25% of the precincts reporting, the majority are in the red part of the state.

Hold the phone on Ohio.

82 bosforus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:03pm

Well, looks like 2010 is our next goal.

83 Boxy_brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:10pm

I can't get drunk enough to accept this.

People have just lost their minds. 143 days in the senate and 20 years in the damn America church. God I hate stupidity.

84 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:20pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Wheee!

Um, why are you happy?

85 Jamie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:28pm

re: #21 MandyManners

IT AIN'T OVER, FOLKS!

Let's not get ridiculous. The Tampa Bay Rays have an equal chance of winning the 2008 World Series as John McCain has of being POTUS. It's over.

86 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:37pm

something is so wrong.
it is inconceivable that someone, so unqualified and w/ such terrible ideas for our nation, is succeeding.

87 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:46pm

no Republican was going to do any better against Obama than McCain has.

88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:50pm

re: #75 JacksonTn

Killgore ... what would you like to happen in this country... I know you said you were not going to vote ... so I am just curious as to how you would like to see the country go now ...just wondering ...

He's a moron. Ignore.

89 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:52:51pm

Well folks we don't stop fighting but we need to turn to real conservative principles and quit "reaching across the aisle". It's time to DEFEAT these socialist bastards and drive them out. We have a lot of work to do. Time to not be a RINO but a real conservative!

90 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:04pm

It is NOT OVER YET. Why are you thinking of conceding?
Lots of counting of votes to do. Please, count them all. Please.

91 lazlo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:21pm

It has nothing to do with the nomination. It has to do with the failure of the neocon ethos. Period.

92 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:23pm

re: #76 ErislDysnomia

AT WHAT TIME IN 2004 WAS IT CLEAR BUSH HAD WON?

It was real late. Not as bad as 2000, but late.

93 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:25pm

re: #73 CapeCoddah

Shit Loppy, we did not get rid of ONE of the bastards!

On the bright side, they did decriminalize pot, we could just spend the next four years becoming potheads. Maybe then Mass politics will make sense to us...(shudder)

94 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:26pm

The stupid fucks that vote for Obama deserve what they get. 12% unemployment, Dow under 5K, terrorist attacks on American soil, $200/bbl oil. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to deal with it too. The bell curve is wrong; more than 50% of all people are of below average intelligence.

95 bebe's boobs destroy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:26pm

God help us all if this clown pulls it off. How long before the marxists/anarchists drop their masks and let it al lhang out?

96 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:28pm
Ralph Nader, the self-styled consumer crusader and perennial third-party presidential candidate, has conceded, telling the Free Press earlier tonight that he predicts “a landslide” for Barack Obama.
97 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:30pm

re: #73 CapeCoddah

Shit Loppy, we did not get rid of ONE of the bastards!

Why do I live here?

98 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:32pm

re: #83 Boxy_brown

I can't get drunk enough to accept this.

People have just lost their minds. 143 days in the senate and 20 years in the damn America church. God I hate stupidity.

I hear ya ... I don't drink .. I have not had a drink in probably a year... just because I don't ... but tonight I am on my third beer ... I will pay for it tomorrow ... but tonight I do not care ...

99 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:43pm

re: #29 Charles

Channeling the Great Karnak, my next prediction:

McCain is going to concede long before he needs to.

/but probably not after he's impossibly behind in the Electoral College

100 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:46pm

re: #29 Charles

To 'reach across the aisle' for a 'more bipartisan Congress.'

I can see it.

ugh.

101 nobamadada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:53:58pm

re: #79 Charles

America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.

Sad and scary...

102 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:54:10pm

re: #86 nyc redneck

something is so wrong.
it is inconceivable that someone, so unqualified and w/ such terrible ideas for our nation, is succeeding.

It's the destruction of our culture. This country consists of a majority of cavemen.

103 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:54:11pm

Joh Sununu OUT -- JEEbus.

I've been very hesitant in the past to regard the electorate as stupid on the whole, but I'm beginning to think like an elitist and consider that maybe they ARE abunch of bumpkins...

/Time to channel Mencken...

104 Palmetto Patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:54:20pm

I hope you guys enjoyed that free speech thing! That sure was fun, ay? We'll have to try that again some other century!

105 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:54:25pm

There is a full crowd of Obama fans in Grant park in Chicago waiting for McCain to make the call. I say don't do it until about midnight ET.

106 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:54:32pm

re: #24 HelloDare

Looks like Obama didn't have to cheat after all.

Where do you get the idea that he didn't. Acorn, credit card fraud, overseas "campaign workers". Seems a pretty weird way to define "not cheating".

107 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:54:38pm

I just figured Kilgore was piss drunk.

108 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:54:39pm

re: #77 loppyd

I still say they shouldn't have called OH.

They can call all they want, if they are wrong, then they are wrong! They will look like horses asses again.

109 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:55:14pm

re: #86 nyc redneck

something is so wrong.
it is inconceivable that someone, so unqualified and w/ such terrible ideas for our nation, is succeeding.

Is this some weird dream? I can't believe this is happening. Al FRANKEN is ahead in MN? WTF is wrong with everyone?

110 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:55:18pm

re: #91 lazlo

It has nothing to do with the nomination. It has to do with the failure of the neocon ethos. Period.

FUCK OFF, LOSER. Anti-Semite.

111 Born Again Republican  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:55:25pm

I don't understand how we can turn the Presidency and our top secrets over to a man who can't get security security clearance because of his associations?

112 ziggyelman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:55:29pm

re: #72 Dominic Yeso

Yep - good comment Mandy. In the mean time I'm going to reduce my income and apply for benefits.

Hey, I have been thinking about that myself. I have chronic back and stomach problems. Suck on the teat of the federal government for a few years, help drive federal spending thru the roof. Bring republicans back in in 2010. Fight the power and all that! ;)

113 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:55:37pm

Chris Shays is out too. This is going to be a long two years.

114 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:55:46pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Wheee!

Fuck you. You've been a pain in the ass around here for months. I've lost all respect for you.

115 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:00pm

re: #81 jcm

Ohio is still in play 25% of the precincts reporting, the majority are in the red part of the state.

Hold the phone on Ohio.

Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right. I'll sit here and take my anti-Eeyore medicine if you're right but...

116 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:04pm

EARTHQUAKE IN L.A.

No...it's just our forefathers rolling over in their graves.

117 Ashtaroot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:06pm

OK, we lost. It's only a matter of getting the CA numbers in. The American people have spoken and they chose a marxist, terrorist sympathizer. Where do we go now? It's not like we can move somewhere else. The US was the last stand for the free world. Everybody else has already rolled over. Hamas, the Syrians, the Iranians are celebrating because they know him to be weak.

Someone once said "we may need a Jimmy Carter to get a Reagan". Well fasten your seat belts. This is Jimmy Carter on steroids! for the next 4 years... I'm about to cry...

118 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:15pm

re: #105 Mich-again

There is a full crowd of Obama fans in Grant park in Chicago waiting for McCain to make the call. I say don't do it until about midnight ET.

Wait for the polls to close and at least 50% reporting in AK and HI.

119 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:16pm

And to think that in addition to the absolute catastrophe of a president this charlatan will be, all of the incessant moonbat gloating will be fucking impossible to bear over the ensuing months...

120 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:20pm

re: #105 Mich-again

There is a full crowd of Obama fans in Grant park in Chicago waiting for McCain to make the call. I say don't do it until about midnight ET.

FTFY

The Supreme Court is open at midnight, and the case will take a lot longer than that.

121 Bob Dillon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:35pm

I posted this - this morning.
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

National Security: While the U.S. scores yet another successful missile intercept, the missile defense chief warns that Iran could target all of Europe and the U.S. within five years.

It's 3 a.m., and the phone is ringing.

122 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:38pm

re: #68 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I don't understand calling MN for him. McCain has more votes there as it stands now.

Outstate.

/wait until they total up Minneapolis/St. Paul and suburbs, God protect us from Al Franken

123 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:38pm

re: #111 Born Again Republican

I don't understand how we can turn the Presidency and our top secrets over to a man who can't get security security clearance because of his associations?

THis may be the route to the 2009 impeachment.

124 caligal  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:46pm

Voting rules/laws need to be changed ..nationally. ID required.
I voted by absentee at least 10 days ago. I got a call about 30 mins. ago from a local guy asking me to get to the polls and vote. What?! I could have voted twice!
We all know that acorn and assoc. cheated, deceived, and thugged to get their "one" in...
Shame on the msm... they so manipulated this election. And watch out for the return of the fairness doctrine...oh, fairness for them.

125 BignJames  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:56:55pm

re: #79 Charles

America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.

You see comments on any number of subjects from people all over the country...what's your take? Are Americans dumb or naive?

126 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:18pm

re: #80 NJDhockeyfan

What happened to my country?

We are still here. If 0 wins, he will take an oath, to preserve, protect and DEFEND. If he dose not, we lead the charge to remove his ass.

127 Moishe Oofnik  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:24pm

re: #74 StinkHammer

Maybe Atlas will finally shrug?

(Damn I said I was going to bed)

128 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:29pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

THAT IS ENOUGH. Zionist checks are all being withheld until you people buck the heck up. What are we? Conservatives or weenies? We were right yesterday, we will be right tomorrow no matter WHO is in the White House. We may have to fight harder, but we don't just give up our country like this.


'

You know, you are right.
I am going to do this via my pocketbook.
Those that supported Obama with signs etc, I will simply not go to their place of business anymore.
We happen to be the number one purchaser of concrete from our supplier. I know the daughter of the owner voted for Obama.
I will be checking prices tomorrow, I am sure we can find it elsewhere.

129 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:38pm

re: #119 StinkHammer

And to think that in addition to the absolute catastrophe of a president this charlatan will be, all of the incessant moonbat gloating will be fucking impossible to bear over the ensuing months...

As the economy worsens, as taxes increase, as promises are broken, you can run that in their faces.

130 peter2feathers  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:40pm

Dang, I’m Canadian and I’m sweating this too. I can already picture Soviet oil rigs on our arctic coast; and we don’t have enough influence (i.e. strength) to challenge them on it. And they’re (soviets) already laughing at obama, he can’t help us. Come on McCain!

131 LionFromZion  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:43pm

It's scary to think how the country is shifting leftward. Is it really an ideological shift or was the wool just pulled over their eyes?

132 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:49pm

However the numbers finally come down, many of us did everything we could to put Mac over the top. For that, we can be at peace.

And I agree with ArmyWife - this is still our country and will continue to be so. The onus is now on us to show our love for America by being active participants in the loyal opposition.

133 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:49pm

re: #116 HelloDare

EARTHQUAKE IN L.A.

No...it's just our forefathers rolling over in their graves.

I wasn't aware that many of our forefathers ever made it to L.A.

134 Boxy_brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:53pm

re: #89 Jetpilot1101


Well folks we don't stop fighting but we need to turn to real conservative principles and quit "reaching across the aisle". It's time to DEFEAT these socialist bastards and drive them out. We have a lot of work to do. Time to not be a RINO but a real conservative!

We need to win elections, alienating republicans by calling them RINO's when you disagree with that will just give us more nights like this.

135 kansas  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:57:57pm
America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.


One the problems with Americans being so stupid, don't you think?

136 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:03pm

I'm getting piss drunk as we all type...it's going to be a long two years. In fact, it's going to be a long 4 years. But I think in 2012, unemployment will be hitting 15%, we will have been attacked again and Israel will be in a fight for her life. Thanks Barry, you'll have your 4 years but that's about it.

137 Jamie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:08pm

re: #114 doppelganglander

Fuck you. You've been a pain in the ass around here for months. I've lost all respect for you.

Because he didn't like the Republican nominee enough to vote for him? When did this become a re-education camp?

138 sleepyone  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:14pm

re: #42 sleepyone

I'm so depressed...

I'm depressed about the results thus far but I'm going to fight in any way I can to keep conservative causes alive. I don't know how to most effectively do this though. I guess as a graphic designer I can offer my services to any conservative running for any office pro bono. I'm not sure how much that will help but it's something.

It's strange and uncomfortable to feel on the outside from my own country.

139 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:16pm

re: #106 Mars Needs Neocons

Where do you get the idea that he didn't. Acorn, credit card fraud, overseas "campaign workers". Seems a pretty weird way to define "not cheating".


They did cheat. I agree. But they didn't have to .

140 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:27pm

re: #128 Typicalwhitey

'

You know, you are right.
I am going to do this via my pocketbook.
Those that supported Obama with signs etc, I will simply not go to their place of business anymore.
We happen to be the number one purchaser of concrete from our supplier. I know the daughter of the owner voted for Obama.
I will be checking prices tomorrow, I am sure we can find it elsewhere.

Now you're talking.

Boycott all the leftist tools - MSM, organizations who advertise in it, etc.

141 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:30pm

re: #84 Occasional Reader


Um, why are you happy?


Zen Strawberry

A man traveling across a field encountered a tiger. He fled, the tiger after him. Coming to a precipice, he caught hold of the root of a wild vine and swung himself down over the edge. The tiger sniffed at him from above. Trembling, the man looked down to where, far below, another tiger was waiting to eat him. Only the vine sustained him. Two mice, one white and one black, little by little started to gnaw away the vine. The man saw a luscious strawberry near him. Grasping the vine with one hand, he plucked the strawberry with the other. How sweet it tasted!

142 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:34pm

LIZARDS! Dont fall for the trick of the MSM!
TypicalWhitey, Sharmuta! Where are u?
grrr nothing makes me madder than seeing good lizards lay down and give up.

143 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:41pm

re: #94 doppelganglander

The stupid fucks that vote for Obama deserve what they get. 12% unemployment, Dow under 5K, terrorist attacks on American soil, $200/bbl oil. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to deal with it too. The bell curve is wrong; more than 50% of all people are of below average intelligence.

I am with you. I am afraid we will not be celebrating come Nov. 9th in Atl.

144 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:42pm

What the Soviet Union could not do to us in fifty years of Cold War we are about to do to ourselves.

Incredible!

145 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:48pm

I AM NOT in the defeatist mode here.
*Whack*Wahck*Whack*
There, now, neither are you!
( Thanks Miss Mandy!)
There are LOTS of votes to be counted, and no one knows the numbers, until they are counted. You can pray, as I am doing.
But, sleep tight, and know that most of the "issues" will be resolved tomorrow.
And, I look forward to our "trainings" in the re-education camp.
See you there!
/I hope we take over :)

146 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:53pm

re: #66 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Tomorrow is the first day of the mid-term election race.

I like the way you think!

147 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:58:59pm

re: #97 loppyd

Why do I live here?

Same as me, the scenery.

148 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:03pm

re: #74 StinkHammer

When the pendulum swings to having more net tax receivers than net tax payers, it's very hard to convince that receving majority to give up the goodies they'll be getting from the "dastardly rich people."

Socialism is a very difficult trend to reverse. (The whole "frog-in-a-pot-of-boiling-water" scenario.)

Hey Stink.
Say hello to the welfare state, once again.

149 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:07pm

re: #128 Typicalwhitey

'

You know, you are right.
I am going to do this via my pocketbook.
Those that supported Obama with signs etc, I will simply not go to their place of business anymore.
We happen to be the number one purchaser of concrete from our supplier. I know the daughter of the owner voted for Obama.
I will be checking prices tomorrow, I am sure we can find it elsewhere.

I hear ya ... I know who my suppliers are and who they supported because they just could not keep their mouths shut during the election ... I never talk business but Obama supporters did .. I know who they are and will order my supplies accordingly ...it is still my money and I will do with it what I want ...

150 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:24pm

re: #114 doppelganglander

Yes, it's terrible that someone might report reality to you.
/

151 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:39pm

Fairness doctrine for the internet.

152 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:49pm

re: #79 Charles

America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.

I don't think they were ever told the truth about that.

153 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:50pm

re: #95 bebe's boobs destroy

God help us all if this clown pulls it off. How long before the marxists/anarchists drop their masks and let it al lhang out?

They already have, and the media yawned.

154 nobamadada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 6:59:57pm

I would like to be optimistic but Obama is going to win FL. Once this happens it is over.

155 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:03pm

re: #79 Charles

America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.

/I fear for Israel more than I fear for us

156 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:10pm

re: #115 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right. I'll sit here and take my anti-Eeyore medicine if you're right but...

Looking county by county, which are in which are not, how they voted in '04.
FL is narrowing and will be tight.
PA still is a possible but very tight.
OH is very much in play.

Hang tight, wait till more counties report in.

157 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:14pm

re: #131 LionFromZion

It's scary to think how the country is shifting leftward. Is it really an ideological shift or was the wool just pulled over their eyes?

Mostly the latter, by the MSM.

For the umpteenth time:

THE MSM IS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM™

158 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:18pm
159 guitardalek  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:19pm

re: #119 StinkHammer

And to think that in addition to the absolute catastrophe of a president this charlatan will be, all of the incessant moonbat gloating will be fucking impossible to bear over the ensuing months...

it's going to be a long 4 years.

160 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:19pm

re: #79 Charles

America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.

It's worse than that, many Americans, and quite possibly a majority (but more probably a plurality) have decided to take a break from history.

They've decided that hope and change trumps experience, knowledge, or even economic sanity. They're putting their chips in with the guy who will take the chips because he owns the House, the Senate, and will do as he wants with our tax dollars, and the first thing on the chopping block? US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. A nightmare scenario by the looks of it.

As I said earlier this week, I intend to be the loyal opposition to keep that from happening, to make sure that the Congress critters do their damned jobs to defend the nation and to keep them from pushing us into a socialist redistributionist nightmare.

161 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:33pm

re: #136 Jetpilot1101

I'm getting piss drunk as we all type...

You and me both -- the only way I can make it through this awful night.

162 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:00:55pm

Damn. They just called Iowa for Obie. Get the paddles for this gal.

163 ladycatnip  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:05pm

We have Fox News now talking about an Obama presidency. I'm sick at heart, so I made a batch of brownies. Will drown my sorrows in chocolate.

164 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:12pm

re: #134 Boxy_brown

We need to win elections, alienating republicans by calling them RINO's when you disagree with that will just give us more nights like this.

WRONG. They abandoned their principles and it's why they got voted out. People want officials with a spine. RINO's did nothing for the party except bring it down. We need true conservatives, not panderers.

165 snowcrash  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:36pm

looks grim. Had lots of warning for this but I am still disappointed. Didn't think Americans were so easily hoodwinked.

166 Globular Cluster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:37pm

Polls aren't worth much. New Mexico was called as a dead heat throughout the election and now McCain is solidly ahead. Ditto for Missouri.

Wait people. It ain't over.

167 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:40pm

anyone else have a very funky looking LGF right now?

168 puckish and beguiling  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:41pm

Spent the past hour or so reading comments and watching NBC. I know it isn't over yet, but I can't watch any more. Going to read and go to sleep. See y'all in the morning, Lizards.
Thanks again for all you do, Charles.

169 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:48pm

re: #144 CIA Reject

What the Soviet Union could not do to us in fifty years of Cold War we are about to do to ourselves.

Incredible!

No, the Soviet Union did do this to us, through deliberate ideological sabotage.

We are now fighting the Soviet Union's last war.

170 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:01:59pm

re: #111 Born Again Republican

I don't understand how we can turn the Presidency and our top secrets over to a man who can't get security security clearance because of his associations?

Neither Bill or Hill would have been able to get their clearances. And that's from the agent in charge of doing the clearances for the WH staff at the time.

171 Long Nics are Looonnng  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:01pm

I am only going to say this once.

Poop.

172 ziggyelman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:02pm

re: #128 Typicalwhitey

'

You know, you are right.
I am going to do this via my pocketbook.
Those that supported Obama with signs etc, I will simply not go to their place of business anymore.
We happen to be the number one purchaser of concrete from our supplier. I know the daughter of the owner voted for Obama.
I will be checking prices tomorrow, I am sure we can find it elsewhere.

Yes! All that, and don't ever watch a network news broadcast again! Fox , that's all. Don't see a George Clooney, or Oliver Stone film, or anyone else from the left. of course, no one sees their films anyway...don't even rent them!

173 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:03pm

re: #79 Charles

America has decided that Iranian nuclear bombs really aren't anything to worry about.

Some of Iran's neighbors still do.

174 Dominic Yeso  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:08pm

Hunker down time. Come on 2010. I expect folks will start to wake up by 4/2009 when they look at the tax tables and realize that those tax "cuts" for 95% were so much BS (among other things).

175 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:08pm

Is politico.com owned by the AP? that's the only place the get their "news" from.

176 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:12pm

re: #148 FrogMarch

Hey Stink.
Say hello to the welfare state, once again.

Guess I'll just quit working and live off some dastardly rich people.

/Didja get my e-note earlier? I haven't checked my mail yet. Too busy drinking.

177 slokat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:29pm

I haven't given up hope, yet...

But, if the O wins... you'all are about to experience what it's like to live on the left coast. And, you won't be able to move to a more favorable state. Unless, you move out of the States, entirely.

But for now, I hope that a lot of people voted differently than they polled!

178 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:32pm

I turned on Dirty Jobs. I've had a cry and two shots of Maker's Mark. Can't get drunk--have to go shopping tomorrow. Christmas is all of a sudden going to be a lot more meager than I'd originally planned.

I will NOT have ODS. I hope he does well, and he is my Commander in Chief (elect).

The game now is to keep the pressure on one's representatives and Senators.

179 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:41pm

re: #167 loppyd

anyone else have a very funky looking LGF right now?

I'll have what she's having.

180 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:47pm

WOLVERINES!

181 kansas  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:50pm

re: #152 MandyManners

I don't think they were ever told the truth about that.

Most Americans wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the ass.

182 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:52pm

I'm looking at the same map you are. He lost St. Petes in FL, lost Monroe, and lost Orlando.

Again, I hope you're right.

183 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:02:59pm

McCain has lost Iowa.

184 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:13pm

re: #157 ErislDysnomia

Mostly the latter, by the MSM.

For the umpteenth time:

THE MSM IS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM™

That and our grossly inadequate education system.

185 right_wing2  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:15pm

I know it's not over, but assuming the worst as it appears to be trending so far, this country is so frickin' screwed.

186 Globular Cluster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:16pm

Only 60% precincts reporting in ohio and the rest are gonna go McCain, IMO.

187 Long Nics are Looonnng  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:18pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Funny. Perfect.

188 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:20pm

re: #164 Jetpilot1101

WRONG. They abandoned their principles and it's why they got voted out. People want officials with a spine. RINO's did nothing for the party except bring it down. We need true conservatives, not panderers.

I'm going to have to agree here. Republicans with linguine spines who "disagree" with conservative principles are best kept away from the Republican party in the long term.

189 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:27pm

I wonder what all of the Republicans who supported McCain in the primaries have to say for themselves tonight.

190 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:29pm

Fucking Tom Harking wins reelection.

You can openly consort with our enemies, and be elected to the US Congress.

191 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:36pm

re: #123 ErislDysnomia

THis may be the route to the 2009 impeachment.

By whom?

192 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:37pm

re: #139 HelloDare

They did cheat. I agree. But they didn't have to .

I actually think they did. There's still a good chance that this is going to be extremely close, and those fake voters and the gullible pulled across by misleading tactics will make the difference.

193 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:37pm

If as it's looking Americans are stupid enough to elect this radical zero, then we truly deserve what we're going to get. Unfortunately, those of us with who still have common sense are going to suffer as well.

194 ShanghaiRay  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:42pm

McCain fucked himself. The MSM media did their part for sure but John McCain is/was a complete ass and screwed himself along with the American people. To hell with his holier than thou..above the fray attitude. Makes me sick at my stomach. He either didn't have a clue who/what he was dealing with or he didn't care both reasons suck.

If America survives the coming onslaught of terrorist attacks (because they know Obama will be dickless do to anything about it), attacks on Israel, an almost immediate pull-out of Iraq, higher taxes, more social programs, the gutting of our military, more palling around with the likes of Chavez, being Europe's lapdog and on and on and on..I'll be damn surprised.

195 rholmes464  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:47pm

Least we all dont have to worry about house payments / gas for our vehicles any more
/sarcasm

196 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:47pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

I'll have what she's having.

OR!

I've missed you so.

197 ziggyelman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:03:55pm

re: #146 MandyManners

I like the way you think!

Yes! Do what worked for the Democrats, start running against them Tomorrow. And don't forget IF McCain loses...Jindal/Palin 2012!1

198 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:06pm

re: #184 StinkHammer

That and our grossly inadequate education system.

Even the uneducated would "get it" if the MSM were unbiased.

199 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:12pm

re: #167 loppyd

anyone else have a very funky looking LGF right now?

yep

200 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:16pm

And Jacob was left alone, and there wrestled with a man until the breaking of the day. And when he saw that he could not prevail against him, he struck the hollow of his thigh; and Jacob's thigh was put out of joint, as he was wrestling. And he said, "Let me go, for the day has dawned." And Jacob said, "I will not let you go until you have blessed me." Genesis 32:24-26.

201 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:21pm

re: #116 HelloDare

EARTHQUAKE IN L.A.

No...it's just our forefathers rolling over in their graves.

How many of 'em were buried in Los Angeles?

:-)

202 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:28pm

Imagine being in the military right now. Obama will soon be your Commander in Chief.

203 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:48pm

There are still areas of Ohio that haven't reported at all.

204 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:54pm

re: #144 CIA Reject

What the Soviet Union could not do to us in fifty years of Cold War we are about to do to ourselves.

Incredible!

and the worst part is that it was predicted by the same soviets we defeated.

205 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:04:57pm

We'll survive the socialists agenda.
The Iraq war is already won.
The Afghanistan war is actually being stepped-up.
There ain't gonna be a change with regard to surveillance.
It may very well be that he won't permit Iran to go nuclear, and if he does, Israel will do what needs be done.
We'll get through the next four years.

206 caligal  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:09pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

Thank you for the inspiring words! Taking a deep breath now...

207 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:10pm

re: #194 ShanghaiRay

McCain fucked himself ... He either didn't have a clue who/what he was dealing with or he didn't care both reasons suck.

I think it's the former.

He could not comprehend how Americans could be as bad as his N. Vietnamese captors.

208 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:13pm

re: #171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am only going to say this once.

Poop.

Post of the night.

;^)

209 guitardalek  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:35pm

Well at this point we can...avoid drama and derangement. Because at least, in defeat, we can prove we're better than all those liberals who were absolutely insufferable for the last 8 years.

210 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:38pm

Not enough tequila.

Too darn many happy unicorn with rainbows blowing out their asses.

The room spins.

The world is tossed into a cocked hat.

211 So?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:43pm

The one good thing regarding Israel, is that it will force her to grow balls once again and not be tied to the US for every decision it has to make or every action it wants to take. Israel under Bush was handcuffed and lied to. Now Israel can finally be the grownup it needs to be, take responsibility into its own hands and deal with countries like Iran on its own terms. No strings attached. Now the gloves come off. ---My prediction!

--So?

212 little boomer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:49pm

re: #147 CapeCoddah

Same as me, the scenery.

I was thinking this just this morning in Western MA.

213 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:49pm

Aaaarrrggghhh!

214 DM Glampers  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:51pm

re: #156 jcm

Looking county by county, which are in which are not, how they voted in '04.
FL is narrowing and will be tight.
PA still is a possible but very tight.
OH is very much in play.

Hang tight, wait till more counties report in.

I hope you're right but just glancing at PA on the WSJ site makes it hard to remain optimistic. I'm not conceding yet, but damn, if this isn't upsetting.

215 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:52pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

I DENOUNCE ALL OF YOU!

i want a bigger chocolate ration

I LOLed. Thanks, OR. :)

216 lobo91  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:56pm
If John McCain is the nominee, we’re going to have at least four years of a Democrat in the White House—and with some estimating that Iran will have a bomb within two years, that means we’d have a Democrat facing a nuclear-armed Iran. (Because we know they’re not going to do anything serious to stop it.)

I'm spending election night in a hotel room in El Paso, getting ready to start yet another pre-deployment staff training exercise for a brigade en route to Iraq.

I just got off the phone with my wife, where I said, "Maybe it's time for me to put in my retirement papers" from the Army Reserve. She responded that she's sure I can find something useful to do, even with Obama in the White House.

I thought about it for a second, and said, "Yeah, there'll probably be plenty of work in my primary field by the end of his term."

My primary MOS is 74D: CBRN (Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear) Operations Specialist.

I only hope I'm wrong about that...

217 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:05:58pm

Hugo Chavez will probably declare a national holiday tomorrow.

218 Long Nics are Looonnng  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:04pm

Spent the entire evening with an Obama supporter. He has no clue.

But a very, very good man. Just clueless.

219 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:05pm

re: #186 Globular Cluster

Only 60% precincts reporting in ohio and the rest are gonna go McCain, IMO.

Yes, but what is the population of those precincts?

220 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:07pm

Presidential (last updated: 11-04-08 9:53 PM EST) Precincts Reporting 65%
McCain (R) 1,541,759 49%
Obama (D) 1,577,327 50%

Most of the large counties have voted, 65 percent.

Now watch the rural precincts go McCain.

I never dreamed their was so much hatred for Dole?re: #129 ErislDysnomia

As the economy worsens, as taxes increase, as promises are broken, you can run that in their faces.


Bambi will pay my mortage and put gas in my car!

Happy days are here again?

Even if we win NC does it really make a shit?

221 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:18pm

re: #102 ErislDysnomia

It's the destruction of our culture. This country consists of a majority of cavemen.

i think the cavemen saw who he was. it was the elitists, the inexperienced young people and a bunch of fcking dead beats who actually think he is going to make good on his promises of free stuff. we have now reached a point in our society where the those least able to think rationally are making the choices.
how frustrating.

222 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:23pm

re: #152 MandyManners

I don't think they were ever told the truth about that.

The important thing to remember is that Iran is a small country...

/sarc

223 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:24pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

Yes, it's terrible that someone might report reality to you.
/

Your exact post was Wheee!

What kind of "reality" is that, dolt?

224 Spellcheck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:27pm

Okay, here's what I see on the PA SoS website -

McCain is down statewide by 356,000. 353,000 of that is in Philadelphia county. So, he's only down 3,000 in the rest of the state. Philadelphia county is reporting 78% counted.

225 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:28pm

re: #202 HelloDare

Imagine being in the military right now. Obama will soon be your Commander in Chief.

And remember, the military's Oath is to the Constitution.

Let's hope they haven't been too infiltrated by leftists to allow the Constitution to be compromised by O and Congress.

226 Haiku  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:32pm

I'm so disappointed in half of America tonight. I really thought McCain would prove the pundits wrong and win. I haven't watched television today and I won't for the rest of the week. I just can't bear it. I'm terrified of what will happen to America's security, our ability to control our borders. All I can do is pray for our great country.

There will be celebrations all over the Middle East except in Israel. I'm sure hamas and all the terrorists groups will be celebrating our new President Obama, oh it hurts to write that, who they know is sympathetic to their cause. The question is will the msm show it?

227 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:36pm

I work with a lot of extreme moonbats. They're going to be insufferable.

228 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:39pm

re: #196 loppyd

OR!

I've missed you so.

Well, that's understandable. It's because I'm so amazing. Not to mention humble!

229 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:06:53pm

There's a "victory party" at the Eldorado in Reno this evening. I'll go to have others to commiserate with. I wonder how much of a downer it will be.

230 cliffster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:02pm

No big deal - it's just a bunch of crazy-ass muslims running around trying to build an atomic bomb and ship it to some port in the US. That wouldn't be all that bad. Let's vote in some guy that "seems know what he's talking about". Oprah likes him, after all.

231 Gozer the Carpathian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:09pm

*Sigh*

Well now I need to hurry up and get into the political arena. Maybe we can start getting some real conservative voices into the arena to actually fight and not campaign. With Carter 2 here we'll be primed for fresh Conservative faces.

232 RTLM  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:26pm

I give it 6 months for the leftist malcontents begin the spitting and frothing over free lunch not immediately handed down.

Good work moonbats, you likely voted yourselves out right out of your paper hat, $8.50/hour jobs.

233 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:29pm

Mark Steyn on Hugh Hewitt on LA radio right now 870 am.

234 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:35pm

Typical and all my country southern brothers and sisters ... we take so much crap for being from the south ... they call us racists ..they call us ignorant ...they call us backwoods ...but we are all Americans and we will survive ...Typical your nephew did not die for nothing ...

Typical this is for you and your nephew ...

235 Womball  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:42pm

When will it be over though? Tomorrow?

236 redvoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:43pm

ok, filibuster looks like it will be preserved, thank God. Hopefully no unforeseen upsets will occur. who knows, Landrieu might even lose in Louisiana, cross fingers.

237 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:45pm

re: #221 nyc redneck

i think the cavemen saw who he was. it was the elitists, the inexperienced young people and a bunch of fcking dead beats who actually think he is going to make good on his promises of free stuff. we have now reached a point in our society where the those least able to think rationally are making the choices.
how frustrating.

By cavemen, I meant the ideologically and culturally challenged. That includes elitists, the inexperienced young people and a bunch of fcking dead beats

238 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:46pm

re: #216 lobo91

I'm spending election night in a hotel room in El Paso, getting ready to start yet another pre-deployment staff training exercise for a brigade en route to Iraq.

I just got off the phone with my wife, where I said, "Maybe it's time for me to put in my retirement papers" from the Army Reserve. She responded that she's sure I can find something useful to do, even with Obama in the White House.

I thought about it for a second, and said, "Yeah, there'll probably be plenty of work in my primary field by the end of his term."

My primary MOS is 74D: CBRN (Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear) Operations Specialist.

I only hope I'm wrong about that...

Is there prospects for a civilian to get into your line of work? I might be looking for a change.

239 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:50pm

re: #31 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I know I'm about to get a slap (and deserve it if wrong) but there aren't enough red votes left to count. America, as we know it, is gone.

(Trying to stop tears welling up)

240 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:53pm

re: #181 kansas

Most Americans wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the ass.

Is that not an elitist attitude?

241 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:07:58pm

re: #198 ErislDysnomia

Even the uneducated would "get it" if the MSM were unbiased.

And if the electorate were educated, they would recognize the MSM as the biased shitheels they are. A vicious circle of disaster.

242 runrabbitrun  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:11pm

re: #117 Ashtaroot

OK, we lost. It's only a matter of getting the CA numbers in. The American people have spoken and they chose a marxist, terrorist sympathizer. Where do we go now? It's not like we can move somewhere else. The US was the last stand for the free world. Everybody else has already rolled over. Hamas, the Syrians, the Iranians are celebrating because they know him to be weak.

Someone once said "we may need a Jimmy Carter to get a Reagan". Well fasten your seat belts. This is Jimmy Carter on steroids! for the next 4 years... I'm about to cry...

DO NOT WEEP- Print and read this tonight, my dearest lizards, before the sun catches you crying, and take heart... Britain's conservatives came back and so will we (maybe stronger than we would have with a RINO redefining the meaning of the term...)

243 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:16pm

re: #227 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I work with a lot of extreme moonbats. They're going to be insufferable.

That is an understatement

244 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:16pm

re: #220 ibmkeyboard

Presidential (last updated: 11-04-08 9:53 PM EST) Precincts Reporting 65%
McCain (R) 1,541,759 49%
Obama (D) 1,577,327 50%

Most of the large counties have voted, 65 percent.

Now watch the rural precincts go McCain.

I never dreamed their was so much hatred for Dole?


Bambi will pay my mortage and put gas in my car!

Happy days are here again?

Even if we win NC does it really make a shit?

What state is that?

245 Oldasdirt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:23pm

My country is in deep doo doo,and I have voted,there is no more I can do.
In 2 years I will vote again.But damn this,damit all to hell.

246 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:24pm

re: #202 HelloDare

Imagine being in the military right now. Obama will soon be your Commander in Chief.

There will be a mass exodus from the military.

247 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:25pm

re: #183 Charles

McCain has lost Iowa.

Iowa has lost its mind.

248 nobamadada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:28pm

re: #235 Womball

When will it be over though? Tomorrow?

Its over already

249 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:41pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Wheee!

Idiot.

250 rusty_armor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:43pm

... think it is about time for me to riot. Maybe I can burn down the county maintainance shed and run over a few mailboxes ...

251 disunreconnected  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:50pm

A steamy sauna, some blues, some fine red wine and try to find a reason to get up and go to work again tomorrow for The Man.
The good news is that on Tuesday's and Wednesday's it all goes to pay taxes so I don't really do anything too productive. Next year it'll be three out of five days, so that'll probably mean more wine and more more blues.
It won't be easy being that patriotic.

252 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:08:56pm

re: #142 Wishing

LIZARDS! Dont fall for the trick of the MSM!
TypicalWhitey, Sharmuta! Where are u?
grrr nothing makes me madder than seeing good lizards lay down and give up.

I am here!
I have decided that if he really does end up winning, all those asshats who supported him will no longer get my business.
NONE OF THEM.

253 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:02pm

the Taking of America, 1-2-3.

254 kahn_mann  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:02pm

So, how long until we go ahead and change our country's name to the "United Socialist States of America?"

255 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:02pm

re: #225 ErislDysnomia

And remember, the military's Oath is to the Constitution.

Let's hope they haven't been too infiltrated by leftists

Did you see the Military Times' poll results yesterday? Something like 70% for McCain among servicemen/women. No, they haven't been too infiltrated by the leftists. Take heart.

256 Gozer the Carpathian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:03pm

re: #74 StinkHammer

When the pendulum swings to having more net tax receivers than net tax payers, it's very hard to convince that receving majority to give up the goodies they'll be getting from the "dastardly rich people."

Socialism is a very difficult trend to reverse. (The whole "frog-in-a-pot-of-boiling-water" scenario.)

Far too true. Even when we point out how right we were in how many years in the future it'll be what will it matter? This was the point we had to stop the tide and we failed. Sure we might be able to do something about it in the future, but beyond something MAJOR (like earth shattering) happening I don't see it occuring.

257 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:08pm

re: #209 guitardalek

Eh - back to what we *should* be doing. Get back involved with the local systems, and see what we can improve. I was talking to my sister-in-law, and it seems most US citizens suffer short-term memory derangement.

McCain blew it big-time by not pounding the Dhims on their culpability in the current crisis. I haven't researched, but wonder how many 'conservatives' threw away their votes on the useless douchebag Barr.

Paging Don Quixote - your windmill's gone...

258 Karridine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:13pm

re: #74 StinkHammer

When the pendulum swings to having more net tax receivers than net tax payers, it's very hard to convince that receiving majority to give up the goodies they'll be getting from the "dastardly rich people."

Socialism is a very difficult trend to reverse. (The whole "frog-in-a-pot-of-boiling-water" scenario.)

Hammer, when 1,700,000 of the PRODUCING frogs close their American businesses and apply for benefits just like all the rest are getting, it can shock the Dear Leader something fierce, what with the simultaneous HIT on the Treasury AND reduction of the tax base...

WHY would anybody in their right mind continue to work IF ONLY TO PAY FOR LAZY AND INCOMPETENT?

/They're forced to, at gunpoint, I know I know...

259 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:15pm

re: #236 redvoter

ok, filibuster looks like it will be preserved, thank God. Hopefully no unforeseen upsets will occur. who knows, Landrieu might even lose in Louisiana, cross fingers.

If O wins, and the filibuster is possible, WE MUST ... I REPEAT MUST ... station ourselves outside the congressional offices ... and MAKE THEM USE IT!

We should have done that regarding the so called "nuclear option" etc.

No more goddamn linguini spined Repubs!

260 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:28pm

This is the end of a horrible awful very bad day.

Anyone here like thugs from Chicago that get in your face all day long from morning till night?

me neither

get used to it


and they are going to win
they are going to rule over us
these are hateful dreadful people
and I hate them

261 moonflower  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:30pm

My mom is a major republican organizer in SoCal. She is resigned to this and just says we will keep fighting. In two years there may be a very serious buyers' remorse and the congress could swing back over to Republicans, so just hold and work for that.

I cannot believe the American people can have been this stupid. I am full of fear for what will happen as the Middle East begins to test Obama. I hope he can find it within himself to rise to the occasion.

Heaven help us all. God Bless America.

262 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:32pm

Americans who just want free stuff have apparently spoken.

263 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:35pm

re: #137 Jamie

Because he didn't like the Republican nominee enough to vote for him? When did this become a re-education camp?

It's not the dissent, it's the smug attitude. You seem to be familiar with that.

264 Bbungle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:40pm

I don't understand any of these projections - Ohio sec of state has them within .5% of each other
[Link: vote.sos.state.oh.us...]

265 Palmetto Patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:50pm

re: #205 unrealizedviewpoint


Dingdingdingding! Yep, hell with whoever's in the White House. This is still the best country in the history of the friggin world. We're too strong a people to let a smooth talking mofo and the morons in Congress ruin us.

I'm not nearly as depressed as I thought I'd be!

266 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:09:54pm

re: #222 twincitiesgirl

The important thing to remember is that Iran is a small country...

/sarc

Whose ego is bigger? ShortShit's or BHO's?

267 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:01pm

Tomorrow I am going to the gun store.

268 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:06pm

re: #154 nobamadada

I would like to be optimistic but Obama is going to win FL. Once this happens it is over.

He's just gone ahead in VA, too. Not by much - less than a point - but still.

At least, perhaps, the military absentee ballots can help Mac?

269 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:12pm

TN did what needed to be done.
My condolences to the rest of y'all.

270 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:13pm

re: #169 ErislDysnomia

No, the Soviet Union did do this to us, through deliberate ideological sabotage.

We are now fighting the Soviet Union's last war.

Yes, you are correct. It took longer than the KGB thought, but the Active Measures worked.

271 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:26pm

re: #128 Typicalwhitey

'

You know, you are right.
I am going to do this via my pocketbook.
Those that supported Obama with signs etc, I will simply not go to their place of business anymore.
We happen to be the number one purchaser of concrete from our supplier. I know the daughter of the owner voted for Obama.
I will be checking prices tomorrow, I am sure we can find it elsewhere.

That's exactly what the hubby and I will do. We'll also cut back on expenses and just work less. I'm damned if I'll pay for others to sit around doing nothing. If they want more money, they can f*&^ing work for it.

272 RTLM  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:26pm

re: #217 HelloDare

Hugo Chavez will probably declare a national holiday tomorrow.

All of America's enemies are cheering. Foreign and Domestic.

273 Karl the Krud  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:28pm

When the economy has turned to stone they'll get their blood elsewhere.

274 ziggyelman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:29pm

Well, don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but check out Ohio! Am I getting my hopes up needlessly? Is this without Cleveland or Cincinnati?
[Link: vote.sos.state.oh.us...]

275 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:32pm

re: #227 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I work with a lot of extreme moonbats. They're going to be insufferable.

My uber-lib Aunt is going to be impossible to be around...

/Gonna have to reconsider the whole "no drinking during the day" stance...

276 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:35pm

re: #258 Karridine

WHY would anybody in their right mind continue to work IF ONLY TO PAY FOR LAZY AND INCOMPETENT?

People should give themselves an immediate "effective hourly raise" and work a lot less hard. Browse the web more, etc.

277 Boxy_brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:39pm

re: #164 Jetpilot1101

re: #134 Boxy_brown
We need to win elections, alienating republicans by calling them RINO's when you disagree with that will just give us more nights like this.

WRONG. They abandoned their principles and it's why they got voted out. People want officials with a spine. RINO's did nothing for the party except bring it down. We need true conservatives, not panderers.


Great.. We aren't going to learn a goddamn thing. I have been called a racist on the left and a RINO on the right because by default I supported McCain for president.

In order to get representation you need to win elections. Period. Holding out your support for the quintessential candidate that you will never have to follow up on or push in any way will just mean that you are going to have a very long wait and the left will have their way with the country.

278 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:47pm

re: #255 Occasional Reader

Did you see the Military Times' poll results yesterday? Something like 70% for McCain among servicemen/women. No, they haven't been too infiltrated by the leftists. Take heart.

As a military man, I can tell you we have not been infiltrated by the leftists. With that being said, none of my peers are considering leaving the military. It may be the only safe haven for those of us who have tenure an can't be fired.

279 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:49pm

re: #260 mama winger

This is the end of a horrible awful very bad day.

Anyone here like thugs from Chicago that get in your face all day long from morning till night?

me neither

get used to it


and they are going to win
they are going to rule over us
these are hateful dreadful people
and I hate them

Buck Faraka

280 lazlo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:52pm

re: #110 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

lol

What?

281 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:53pm

re: #267 mama winger

Tomorrow I am going to the gun store.

Right now I'm going to the liquor store.

282 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:10:56pm

re: #198 ErislDysnomia

Even the uneducated would "get it" if the MSM were unbiased.

I totally agree with you - the media is the catalyst for all of this. It is amazing that a young unknown senator with close ties to domestic terrorists is winning a presidential election against a decorated war hero. Unbelievable.

283 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:15pm

My message to all you suckers out there in the rest of the USA who believe this air sandwich parading as a prophet:

You are going to be very, very sorry for this. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow... But someday, you're going to be kicking yourselves.

Good luck out there. We're all going to need it.

284 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:19pm

re: #157 ErislDysnomia

Mostly the latter, by the MSM.

For the umpteenth time:

THE MSM IS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM™

The root of the problem is "Ayers" the Marxist have penetrated our education system to the point that half the population doesn't recognize the enemy of liberty when the see and hear it. They are not taught the critical thinking skills to ask, simple question of the MSM which would show them to be the fools they are.

285 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:23pm

re: #244 Sharmuta

What state is that?

North Carolina

286 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:29pm

2.20.13

287 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:30pm

re: #67 HelloDare

Charles,

Which candidate do you think would have beaten Obama?

I know you didn't address me, but we lost '08 in '05, when the jack@ss GOP congresscritters wouldn't see that the game had irrevocably changed. We WOULD be held to a higher, arguably an impossibly high standard. And they wouldn't accept that.

I hope they enjoy Irrelevance Alley. They're going to be playing there a while...

288 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:31pm
289 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:37pm

re: #249 Cartman

Idiot.

Most annoying poster- Cog or KT?

290 Osama Bin Asshat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:50pm

The Repubs will have to re-invent themselves and do a better job of co-opting the media...the Dems won by telling/selling their policies through every form of media while McCain fell over himself too often. The fact that Wright, Ayers et al were virtually ignored is very telling that the Repub strategy was weak.

291 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:11:57pm

re: #271 livefreeor die

That's exactly what the hubby and I will do. We'll also cut back on expenses and just work less. I'm damned if I'll pay for others to sit around doing nothing. If they want more money, they can f*&^ing work for it.

We need a website to monitor who advertises in the major leftwing MSM outlets. So we can coordinate who should be boycotted.

292 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:02pm

re: #177 slokat

I haven't given up hope, yet...

But, if the O wins... you'all are about to experience what it's like to live on the left coast. And, you won't be able to move to a more favorable state. Unless, you move out of the States, entirely.

San Francisco values for all.

/so spaketh Pelosi, Fire Water Burn

293 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:04pm

I was unaware until tonight that Idiocracy was actually a documentary.

294 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:14pm
295 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:29pm

re: #224 Spellcheck

Okay, here's what I see on the PA SoS website -

McCain is down statewide by 356,000. 353,000 of that is in Philadelphia county. So, he's only down 3,000 in the rest of the state. Philadelphia county is reporting 78% counted.

Wow .. I guess those Black Panthers came in handy ...

296 redvoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:33pm

*might be a repost*

Young voters went 64% for Obama. I am 28, no kids, but everyone else needs to beat their kids!

Conservatives need to fight the ideological war in our schools, we are losing it bad.

Whenever Republicans get back control, they need to raise that voting age from 18 to 21, unless they're in the military. If they can fight, they can vote, otherwise they can stick to their Che Guevarra rallies and binge drinking.

And Hispanics went overhwhelmingly for McCain, despite their support of Bush in 00 and 04 and McCain's lax border policies. Republicans need to find a way to secure our borders without making it look like a racial issue, which it isn't.

297 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:38pm
298 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:39pm

I'm guessing tonight is bittersweet at best for Hillary supporters. This could have been her big night. I know I would feel better about things if she were standing there beaming in a nice royal blue pantsuit waiting for the call from her buddy John McCain.

299 Acidtrash  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:53pm

My condolences America. Say goodbye to your manufacturing sector. Say hello mass strikes and power cuts.

I will pray for you in this your darkest hour.

300 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:54pm

re: #290 Osama Bin Asshat

The Repubs will have to re-invent themselves and do a better job of co-opting the media...the Dems won by telling/selling their policies through every form of media while McCain fell over himself too often. The fact that Wright, Ayers et al were virtually ignored is very telling that the Repub strategy was weak.

It was weak in 2004 and nobody learned from that (would have been lost if not for SwiftVets, I believe).

301 LC LaWedgie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:54pm

Ask not what you can do for yourself, ask what your government can do for you.

302 Walter Cronanty  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:12:58pm

I work in a large, northeastern Ohio county. I was shocked at the relatively low turnout. I still can't believe they called Ohio for Obama. But, they did.
So, my wife and I talked about what this will mean to us personally. Depending on which number is used $250,000 to $120,000, probably not a lot, even counting the fact that we will be paying the raised taxes on businesses. Our retirement may be something different, but we've got a couple of years before that time.
But what it will mean is this. If we are "selfish" because we don't want to pay increased taxes, as Obama and Biden say, then so be it. We will wear that sobriquet proudly. We will try to give the same amount to our church. But, you know that $500 to $1,000 we always tried to give to the Salvation Army, City Mission, etc., no matter how tough times were? F#ck it. If those people, which ACORN and the Ds so sanctimoniously bussed to the polls to register and vote, and vote, and vote, want a warm meal - - they can ask Obama. I know, I'll still be paying for it, and Obama will get the credit, but at least I'll have some self respect knowing that I didn't directly finance my demise. Sorry for the rant, but I'm bitterly clinging to my Bible, while cleaning my guns.

303 efuseakay  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:02pm

BREAKING NEWS (tomorrow AM): LA Times releases Obama/Ayers video

304 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:04pm

re: #246 Badge of Kaffir Pride

There will be a mass exodus from the military.

If I were in Iraq,
I would throw down my fucking weapon and get on the first boat home.

/Let Bambi fight his own wars!

305 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:06pm

re: #155 Killian Bundy

/I fear for Israel more than I fear for us

Me too.

306 Karridine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:15pm

The lickspittles at Fox News are calling Obama wins in Ohio, Pennsylvania on the basis of 27% of the vote counted?

TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT?

Kneel, and lick the boots of your Islamist masters, Fox! Shame on you, Fox!

307 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:16pm

re: #281 astronmr20

Right now I'm going to the liquor store.

Oh yeah -- time for a refill! (Thanks for the reminder.)

308 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:24pm

In the future, the byword will be "Don't run a McCain campaign."

309 realwest  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:31pm

Well I was wrong. I thought McCain and Palin would win.
I need time to digest the results (when they are final) to fully comprehend what happened in this election.
But I do think that some points are obvious and it's unlikely that my "full reflection" on this election will change these:
a. America has definitely proven that it is for sale; if you raise 6-7 times the amount of money your opponent raises - regardless of the sources of that money- you can buy the Presidency (rent might be a better term, but for now I'll stick with buy).
b. You need no qualifications at all to be elected President except to be a natural born American Citizen and of legal age.
c. I grossly underestimated the power of the MSM to sway an election.
d. Contrary to Charles observation, I don't think any Republican candidate could have done much better than McCain did - McCain was the most centrist, the most "liberal" (especially on immigration where it appears, I'm sure to his surprise that Obama won about 60% of the Hispanic vote) candidate that the Republican Party could nominate - a true conservative candidate would have lost by an even larger margin, IMO.

In the weeks to come, perhaps upon further reflection I'll be able to understand why, after winning BIG majorities in Congress in 2006, then having the lowest rating of any Congress in history, the Democrats managed to dramatically increase their majority this time around.

310 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:33pm

The Obama camp bussed in lawyers and thugs today to 'monitor' my polling place.

they were insufferable. I can't even tell you how many times I had to call the emergency hotline.

311 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:34pm

re: #289 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Most annoying poster- Cog or KT?

It's a toss-up.

312 sleepyone  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:41pm

"God Damn America"

That about says it all...

313 griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:13:42pm

re: #183 Charles

McCain has lost Iowa.

McCain got 1 vote in my precinct during the caucus last winter. Romney was 1st, Huckabee 2nd, Paul 3rd, some of the others got a few scattered votes, and McCain was dead last.

314 Bbungle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:07pm

re: #274 ziggyelman

I'm seeing that too, ziggy - wth?

315 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:08pm

re: #239 PSGInfinity

(Trying to stop tears welling up)

Yeah, I know the feeling. I'm Canadian... and I know the feeling.re: #264 Bbungle

I don't understand any of these projections - Ohio sec of state has them within .5% of each other
[Link: vote.sos.state.oh.us...]

Go here to understand. [Link: graphicsweb.wsj.com...]

316 Glaucon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:17pm

Look on the bright side. Now that the Dems are in power, they can no longer benefit from undermining the country and tearing down the commander in chief. The need to govern will make them much more practical. NYT already set the stage yesterday running a piece saying, gee, Gitmo maybe is necessary, giving Obama an opening to continue the policy.

But having said that, people are still stupid.

317 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:19pm

re: #297 Iron Fist

That does appear to be the case. Terrorist fears are trumped by the promise of lots of goodies from the communal pot. Obama effectively bought this election. Both with his unprecedented spending and his promises to pillage the rich for the benefit of the poor. He's going to be spreading around the Poverty.

Beck brought up today that the unions contributed unaccounted millions as well to O and to the congressional races, and that the unions are not subject to the same rules on contributions as other organizations and businesses.

318 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:20pm

re: #227 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I work with a lot of extreme moonbats. They're going to be insufferable.

We survived it when Clinton won. We'll survive it this time. Think about this-in one year all those insufferable people are going to be bitching because their unicorns and free mortgage payments didn't come through. At least we won't go through the cognitive dissonance.

319 bebe's boobs destroy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:23pm

My money is on Israel attacking Iran by the end of this week if the messiah pulls it off. May as well bet on that, all I'm going to have left is change when the redistribution starts.

320 Almostout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:25pm

I am so disappointed at the American people right now that I could die. I saw this shit happening in my country of origin, Venezuela, but not in a million years I thought I was going to relive the same shit here. This jackass is just a better spoken version of Chavez. They both suffer from the same messianic complex.

321 Globular Cluster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:26pm

McCain better not better fucking concede for at least 3 hours.

322 sadhu  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:28pm

amazing karma that it was/is McCain against the very same evil he faced in North Vietnam

323 nucular_option  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:35pm

Maybe O will make the trains run on time.

324 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:36pm

re: #269 Dar ul Harb

TN did what needed to be done.
My condolences to the rest of y'all.

A big SHOUT OUT to you righteous Volunteers!

325 redvoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:38pm

Oh, one more thing, I will going on Welfare as of January 21, 2009. Easily the best career choice anyone can make.

326 crazy cat lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:38pm

re: #246 Badge of Kaffir Pride
My nephew in the Air Force just signed on for 6 more years in June, deployed to Iraq in September.

327 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:49pm

re: #277 Boxy_brown

Great.. We aren't going to learn a goddamn thing. I have been called a racist on the left and a RINO on the right because by default I supported McCain for president.

In order to get representation you need to win elections. Period. Holding out your support for the quintessential candidate that you will never have to follow up on or push in any way will just mean that you are going to have a very long wait and the left will have their way with the country.

Total BS. What America needs is principled people who adhere to strong conservative values. Screw the RINO's and winning elections. I'd rather have 5 legit conservatives voted in than 15 RINO's. We don't need compromisers; the defeat of McCain is a referendum on those who "cross the aisle". It's time to steamroll these marxists. We defeated the soviets, it's why they are called Russians now. We need to defeat the left not work with them!

328 Dominic Yeso  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:51pm

re: #232 RTLM

My thoughts to the contrary - the free lunches will be in full gear come Feb. Don't wait - apply now!

Its a bizzare twist on JFK - ... "ask wtf is my country doing for ME?"

329 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:51pm

re: #280 lazlo

lol

What?

Define "neocon".

330 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:51pm

Better a Democrat dealing with a nuclear Iran than a socialist with Muslim sympathies. Or a Democrat who says Israel has to learn to live with a nuclear Iran.

331 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:54pm

re: #312 sleepyone

"God Damn America"

That about says it all...

He just did. :(

332 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:56pm

re: #301 LC LaWedgie

Ask not what you can do for yourself, ask what your government can do for you.

Time to ask my country to support my new-found drinking habit.

333 griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:57pm

re: #217 HelloDare

Hugo Chavez will probably declare a national holiday tomorrow.

Ya, and all the terrorists in the world will probably fly our flag instead of burn it.
/

334 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:14:57pm

re: #174 Dominic Yeso

Hunker down time. Come on 2010. I expect folks will start to wake up by 4/2009 when they look at the tax tables and realize that those tax "cuts" for 95% were so much BS (among other things).

On taxes, it will take longer than that. Bush's tax cuts don't expire until 2010. If Obie manages to pass his tax hikes, it won't take effect until, I believe, the 2011 tax year. I think there will be plenty more things to infuriate normal Americans and flip Congress in 2010, followed by a Republican victory in 2012 to rival Reagan in 1984.

335 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:06pm

re: #290 Osama Bin Asshat

The Repubs will have to re-invent themselves and do a better job of co-opting the media...the Dems won by telling/selling their policies through every form of media while McCain fell over himself too often. The fact that Wright, Ayers et al were virtually ignored is very telling that the Repub strategy was weak.

Yep. They're still fighting the last war, so to speak. McCain campaigned like it was the 1990s, not the 2000s. He seemed to recognize that information moves fast, and that it's possible to get news events woven into your campaign narrative within mere hours, but he underestimated the other side and refused to see that they were fighting Chicago-style with crap-tons of Soros bucks managing the national narrative from the individual on up.

Like I said: He needed to recognize that he wasn't in a boxing match, he was in a hostile sky over North Vietnam.

336 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:17pm

Big ugly guys in black berets, jackboots, NBPP armbands, carrying billyclubs, coming soon to your front door.

337 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:24pm
338 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:26pm

Ahmadinejad already proved President Obama to be a dunce back on 10/13.

Ahmadinejad says that Iran would hold talks with the United States only if its forces leave the Middle East and Washington ends its support for Israel.

Unfortunately, Obama is halfway there. If we get the hear the Khalidi dinner tape, maybe 3/4 of the way.

339 Globular Cluster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:26pm

The rest of the ohio counties will go McCain.

340 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:36pm
341 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:37pm

re: #310 mama winger

The Obama camp bussed in lawyers and thugs today to 'monitor' my polling place.

they were insufferable. I can't even tell you how many times I had to call the emergency hotline.

Please write this up and post it somewhere.

342 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:15:48pm

The Israeli's are spit-polishing their smart bombs right now.

343 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:02pm

re: #209 guitardalek

Well at this point we can...avoid drama and derangement. Because at least, in defeat, we can prove we're better than all those liberals who were absolutely insufferable for the last 8 years.

Hear Hear! Let them keep the whole "derangement" meme, and we'll go about life with honor.

It would bode our country ill if we sullied ourselves by acting as they have.

344 Globular Cluster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:17pm

Right on schedule, McCain conceding. So gentlemanly. Pathetic. He can fucking wait a few hours to do this.

345 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:25pm

re: #321 Globular Cluster

McCain better not better fucking concede for at least 3 hours.

Why would he concede before the court challenge begins?

346 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:25pm

re: #291 ErislDysnomia

We need a website to monitor who advertises in the major leftwing MSM outlets. So we can coordinate who should be boycotted.

I strongly second that. We have a lot of people here on LGF and that's alot of money for various corporations to lose. Charles, can we set this up?

347 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:27pm

re: #203 Sharmuta

There are still areas of Ohio that haven't reported at all.

I admire your tenacity.

/let it go, FNC doesn't call these States on a lark

348 BigMoo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:27pm

re: #288 buzzsawmonkey

Send me one.

LOL-I'm on Gunbroker now.

349 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:31pm

To Obama's base, his presidency will be like a long road trip to a dumpy vacation spot. Getting there was more fun than being there.

350 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:33pm

re: #297 Iron Fist

That does appear to be the case. Terrorist fears are trumped by the promise of lots of goodies from the communal pot. Obama George Soros effectively bought this election. Both with his unprecedented spending and his promises to pillage the rich for the benefit of the poor. He's going to be spreading around the Poverty.

IT'S GEORGE SOROS, FOLKS. GEORGE SOROS.

351 Scion9  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:37pm

re: #261 moonflower

America has been this stupid since they elected FDR to four consecutive terms.

352 Cutty Sark  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:42pm

Romney was the man , people remember Mccain and KEATING , and if that wasn't bad enough , Palin sealed his fate , sure she's a nice lady , but not for V.P. running against Obama ticket .
Still don't know why McCain picked her , I have suspicions though ...courting the christian right , and gambling on disaffected Hillary fans , may have had something to do with that choice .
No matter , it was a blunder .

353 vegasjew  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:51pm

deep down I did not really think we would win,
I hoped I prayed,I phone banked but this is worse than I thought. The biggest loser is Hillary Clinton, she had half the media and could have really put Obama to bed by being ruthless,then the media would have gone in the tank for her anyway and she too would have beaten McCain. I would have voted for McCain but dont laugh ,I think she had a shot at being a good president. She is no pussy and I think she would have wanted to succeed in military matters ,knowing that winning wars is essential to go down as a great one. Instead she thought she would piss off to many blacks to win in November.
Obama was young enough to wait his turn and would have been forced to get them to the polls,I am very very disturbed,and worried.

354 RTLM  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:16:51pm

pssst Obama,

Those pesky questions about Ayers, Khalidi, Wright, Columbia, etc...

aren't going away.

355 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:02pm

well, at least we know what he has in mind for our country. we can prepare.
the idiots who voted for him are going to flounder and get very disgruntled when the goodies don't start arriving wrapped up nice.

356 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:04pm

re: #336 Alouette

Big ugly guys in black berets, jackboots, NBPP armbands, carrying billyclubs, coming soon to your front door.

You betcha.

357 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:09pm

re: #266 MandyManners

Whose ego is bigger? ShortShit's or BHO's?

Image: 90728-004-5E703BF1.jpg

358 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:16pm

re: #309 realwest

I have the bad feeling the country I love just died. Not in reality yet, but the rugged spirit it was built on was just thrown away in favor of "free shit".

If I was still on Active Duty, I'd be looking forward to my ETS date and wouldn't look back.

359 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:20pm

re: #310 mama winger

The Obama camp bussed in lawyers and thugs today to 'monitor' my polling place.

they were insufferable. I can't even tell you how many times I had to call the emergency hotline.

I trust you documented.

360 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:35pm

It would be better for the future of the Republican Party if the Democrats held the Senate with 60+ seats the House by a sizable margin, stack the Supreme court by upping the numbers and take the Presidency.

That would pre-stage a radical shift to socialist policies domestically, weakness militarily and vacillation in International Affairs. The country will go to hell in a handcart, the economy will be broken under the weight of socialist entitlements and the 'natives' will become VERY restless, a whole lot poorer and threatened by nuclear blackmail by radical Islamists. There may also be a lot of re-building contracts up for grabs to reconstruct a US port city that may or may not have been irradiated, diseased or vaporized!

In the meantime the true conservative base of the Republican Party can do the house cleaning that is about 20 years overdue. Get rid of the 'devil take the hindmost' big business social liberal Rockefeller wing , the 'formerly socialist; financially dry but socially wet' neo-con wing. As the blue collar demographic bleeds financially and suffers socially the numbers will swell for the Republican party newly re-born.

If the neo-Marxist government attempt to hold the levers of power by 'screwing the election' in 2012 then the stage is set for a physical confrontation between those with the guns, bibles, food and water and the urbanite socialists. Guess who'll win that punch-up!


... and no you can't emigrate to Australia. You guys got yourselves into this stuff-up and you can get yourself out of it! Time to 'Man-up' and do what needs to be done!

361 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:37pm

FWIW North Carolina just went to 50/50 with 75 pct reporting.

362 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:38pm

re: #291 ErislDysnomia

We need a website to monitor who advertises in the major leftwing MSM outlets. So we can coordinate who should be boycotted.

YES. i thought that the other day. It will take a lot of time, but it is the only way.

363 Bbungle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:40pm

re: #339 Globular Cluster

well I know my county went McCain. Projections trump real numbers? I guess...

364 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:43pm

re: #267 mama winger

Tomorrow I am going to the gun store.

I'm going to church to do some clinging...

365 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:45pm

re: #340 buzzsawmonkey

I hope you will tell us all about it tomorrow.

Sorry. I will be drunk all day tomorrow.

maybe forever

366 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:50pm
367 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:50pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

THAT IS ENOUGH. Zionist checks are all being withheld until you people buck the heck up. What are we? Conservatives or weenies? We were right yesterday, we will be right tomorrow no matter WHO is in the White House. We may have to fight harder, but we don't just give up our country like this.

Repeated for effect, with an added "Damn straight"!

I am remaining uncharacteristically optimistic (usually a "glass half-empty" type of guy) until all votes are counted. If BHO does win it, I am gonna do what Americans have always done: pick myself up, dust myself off and deal with the situation at hand with an eye towards the future.

You won't see a picture of me holding an "I'm sorry" sign to the world like all those internet weenies in 2004; fuck sorry, I voted!

And you won't see me wearing all black the day after it's called for BHO like those talking-head weenies in 2004; fuck mourning, I'm moving foward!

368 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:54pm

re: #320 Almostout

I am so disappointed at the American people right now that I could die. I saw this shit happening in my country of origin, Venezuela, but not in a million years I thought I was going to relive the same shit here. This jackass is just a better spoken version of Chavez. They both suffer from the same messianic complex.

"El es el camino de la luz y la salvacion"

-actual sign carried by Chavez supporter... sound familiar now, America?

369 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:17:56pm

re: #347 Killian Bundy

/let it go, FNC doesn't call these States on a lark

This is news. They must've stopped calling states on a lark in the past hour.

370 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:18:03pm

I'm worried about the damage the Dems will do to the Supreme Court in the next 4 years.

371 64warhorse  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:18:10pm

re: #10 Karridine

My CPU is a 4-8-8-4 Challenger, but it cannot pull PJTV
AND
much of anything else, same time

Heh ... sorry dude, 4-8-8-4 is Big Boy. Challenger is 4-6-6-4. Both great locomotives, tho ... :-)

372 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:18:26pm

re: #317 ErislDysnomia

Beck brought up today that the unions contributed unaccounted millions as well to O and to the congressional races, and that the unions are not subject to the same rules on contributions as other organizations and businesses.

The labor unions are now effectively leftist apparatchik.

373 Dead Man Voting  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:18:30pm

Just a little perspective on this night:

When the final tally is counted, Obama may indeed win the presidency. However, millions upon millions of Americans stood with you and either whole-heartedly supported John McCain or, perhaps just as important, see through the rhetoric and emptiness of a Barack Obama.

The electoral map may look ugly. But the popular vote should tell us a different story.

For as much as we felt like our voices got squashed this time, we felt "hate" for our views, we felt outshouted and drowned in a rising sea of liberalism (and, dare I say, socialism) we are strong.

Your neighbors.

Your friends.

Your co-workers.

You are not alone in this rising tide. There are millions of us. And, to quote Hollywood ("Cast Away"):

"And I know what I have to do now. I gotta keep breathing. Because tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring? "

374 ArmyWife  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:18:45pm

re: #246 Badge of Kaffir Pride

My husband just said this, so I kicked him. We need people like him to stand true and strong. It will be rough, but we MUST remember country over anybody.

Like many of you, I am a political junkie. Tomorrow? I take this much, much farther. A run for office? Perhaps. The brain storming begins. I am an American. That meant something in the past, I am determined to make it so again. Some of the most intelligent and creative people convene on this blog, starting with Charles. I hope you will help me in real life, and I promise I will help any of you who have taken TFK's advice. Cowboy up, y'all.

375 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:18:53pm

Who could have done a better job than McCain?

Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata because he wouldn't toe the social conservative line.

Romney could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was a Mormon, and couldn't be trusted.

This, my friends, is known as "cutting one's own throat."

376 griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:18:53pm

re: #247 Syrah

Iowa has lost its mind.

Not this Iowan. Our slogan used to be "A State of Minds" because we tested the highest in the nation on uniform high school tests. Now it could be "A State of Harvest Moonbats".

377 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:19:03pm

re: #310 mama winger

The Obama camp bussed in lawyers and thugs today to 'monitor' my polling place.

they were insufferable. I can't even tell you how many times I had to call the emergency hotline.

You were brave for volunteering. Thank you. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

378 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:19:13pm

re: #312 sleepyone

"God Damn America"

That about says it all...

"I will bless those that bless thee, and curse those that curse thee..."

379 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:19:14pm

re: #267 mama winger

Tomorrow I am going to the gun store.

I think I need a few more high capacity clips...
And perhaps another pistol...
Because I don't keep guns for hunting or committing crime.

380 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:19:23pm

re: #340 buzzsawmonkey

I hope you will tell us all about it tomorrow.

Let me give you one of many highlights:

They called the cops on the pastor of the church.

Yeah.
Get used to it.

381 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:19:37pm

re: #370 NJDhockeyfan

I'm worried about the damage the Dems will do to the Supreme Court in the next 4 over the next 75 years.

382 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:19:42pm

don't we normally wait for the votes to be counted (and the court cases decided) before we call the election

383 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:19:45pm

re: #336 Alouette

Big ugly guys in black berets, jackboots, NBPP armbands, carrying billyclubs, coming soon to your front door.

They better bring heavier hardware than billyclubs if they try to cross my front door.

/Just saying.

384 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:09pm

re: #304 ibmkeyboard

If I were in Iraq,
I would throw down my fucking weapon and get on the first boat home.

/Let Bambi fight his own wars!

The oath does not contain the words "as long as I like the Commander in Chief."

Politicians come, and politicians go, but the Constitution remains. Those of us that meant the oath we swore to her understand that.

385 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:12pm

re: #301 LC LaWedgie

Ask not what you can do for yourself, ask what your government can do for youtake from you and give to someone "lesser" than you.

The reality

386 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:12pm

re: #344 Globular Cluster

Right on schedule, McCain conceding. So gentlemanly. Pathetic. He can fucking wait a few hours to do this.

WTF?

387 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:22pm

re: #129 ErislDysnomia

As the economy worsens, as taxes increase, as promises are broken, you can run that in their faces.


Let me say it again: it'll all be George W. Bush's fault. Mark my words...no accountability from that crowd for at least 4 years.

388 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:34pm

re: #375 Charles

Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata

He ran an absolutely terrible campaign.

He was my pick at the outset, let's be clear. But his campaign was bafflingly, maddeningly incompetent.

389 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:37pm

Mama winger, thanks for all you did. I can only imagine what it was like. Selfless patriots like you are the back bone of the nation.

390 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:44pm

re: #382 mahatma coat

don't we normally wait for the votes to be counted (and the court cases decided) before we call the election

Exactly what I've been saying all along.

391 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:52pm

re: #176 StinkHammer

Guess I'll just quit working and live off some dastardly rich people.

/Didja get my e-note earlier? I haven't checked my mail yet. Too busy drinking.

Yes! Funny - I turned the radio on at the point Mike was pausing. Hilarious!
Thanks for sending it to me. I wish we could share it with the class.

392 64warhorse  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:20:56pm

Every time I hear the phrase "Change you can believe in" I get this mental image of the New York City skyline with a mushroom cloud rising above it ...

393 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:00pm

re: #384 CyanSnowHawk

The oath does not contain the words "as long as I like the Commander in Chief."

Politicians come, and politicians go, but the Constitution remains. Those of us that meant the oath we swore to her understand that.

Well said!

394 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:02pm

re: #360 Aussie Infidel


... and no you can't emigrate to Australia. You guys got yourselves into this stuff-up and you can get yourself out of it! Time to 'Man-up' and do what needs to be done!

Damn -- there goes my backup plan...

395 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:07pm

It is NOt over yet. It is not over yet! STOP GIVING IN! Please?

396 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:08pm

McCain got the nomination, not because he was a "maverick," but because he was a Washington good old boy, with lots of Washington good old boy friends.

397 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:29pm

re: #324 MandyManners

And, I'll just say, we saved everyone from President Gore, too.

(If he'd have won his "home" state, there would have been no contest in FL.)

(Psst! We don't have a state income tax, either!)

398 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:33pm

re: #358 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I have the bad feeling the country I love just died. Not in reality yet, but the rugged spirit it was built on was just thrown away in favor of "free shit".

If I was still on Active Duty, I'd be looking forward to my ETS date and wouldn't look back.

The American people will get what they deserve. Unfortunately, I will have to get it, too.

399 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:48pm

re: #87 alien_mind

no Republican was going to do any better against Obama than McCain has.

If you truly believe that in your heart of hearts then you are part of the problem.

There must be someone in the GOP who is not socially. emotionally, politically or morally tainted. Surely statistically it must be so if nothing else!

All that is needed is a HONEST sensible person who knows his / her mind and lives by his / her principles.

400 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:21:53pm

re: #383 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They better bring heavier hardware than billyclubs if they try to cross my front door.

/Just saying.

Ditto. Don't bring a billyclub to a shotgun fight, as the saying almost goes.

401 Caboose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:09pm

Said more than this on a previous thread but I repeat:

Ranger up, soldiers!

War is a series of defeats followed by victory. Don't forget that. Whine and moan and curl up in the fetal position if you must FOR NOW, but never, ever, EVER give up! Lick your wounds, dress the damage and get back on the front lines of taking this country back. It is only two years to 2010 and four to 2012 and I think that this county will be sick of 24x7 Democrats sooner than later. The future is ours to lose, so let's start working for victory now.

And this is the end of the bulls#it that this is a racist nation; if we can elect a black (well 'mulatto' is a more accurate term) president, the label can be hung on us no longer. It's dead. Small victory, but a victory none the less.

Do not ever, ever, EVER GIVE UP! Lizard Rangers lead the way! Caboose out.

(I need a drink...)

402 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:19pm

re: #366 buzzsawmonkey

Fear + fools.

You forgot the other "f" word--FRAUD

403 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:23pm

re: #358 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I have the bad feeling the country I love just died. Not in reality yet, but the rugged spirit it was built on was just thrown away in favor of "free shit".

If I was still on Active Duty, I'd be looking forward to my ETS date and wouldn't look back.

Yes, that is a very sad fact- the US military is about to be eviscerated. The USIC (or at least the part of it that does productive work) likewise will be castrated.

Lots of people who are manning the walls guarding us against terrorists tonight will be looking for jobs at Wal Mart in six months.

404 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:26pm

re: #334 doppelganglander

On taxes, it will take longer than that. Bush's tax cuts don't expire until 2010. If Obie manages to pass his tax hikes, it won't take effect until, I believe, the 2011 tax year. I think there will be plenty more things to infuriate normal Americans and flip Congress in 2010, followed by a Republican victory in 2012 to rival Reagan in 1984.

Plenty more to infuriate Americans?
Like the nukes that go off in Tel Aviv, NY, Washington, and LA.

405 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:28pm

re: #309 realwest


McCain was the most centrist, the most "liberal" (especially on immigration where it appears, I'm sure to his surprise that Obama won about 60% of the Hispanic vote) candidate that the Republican Party could nominate


They really believe he is gonna give them a permanent citizenship.

good luck with that!

His social services program will cost too much for the Hispanics to participate.

this is a poor black mans prophet.

406 nobamadada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:33pm

we mihre: #370 NJDhockeyfan

I'm worried about the damage the Dems will do to the Supreme Court in the next 4 years.


Cant really do much...

407 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:34pm

re: #298 Mich-again

I'm guessing tonight is bittersweet at best for Hillary supporters. This could have been her big night. I know I would feel better about things if she were standing there beaming in a nice royal blue pantsuit waiting for the call from her buddy John McCain.

My sister called some time ago ... she is a huge PUMA ... she said she hopes Hillary thinks the 12 million she owed for her campaign debt and Obama said he would pay for her support is worth it ... because she is registering republican tomorrow... I never thought I would ever hear my sister say anything like that ...

408 ArmyWife  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:40pm

re: #380 mama winger

Oh, Mama W. You are a saint. What an inspiration.

409 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:22:43pm

re: #189 pablito

I wonder what all of the Republicans who supported McCain in the primaries have to say for themselves tonight.


Who was going to win tonight? Rudy, Huck, Romney? face it, America bought into the change and free stuff bullshit and blamed Republicans for the economy.

410 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:01pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

It is NOt over yet. It is not over yet! STOP GIVING IN! Please?

It's over. Period. Obama winds. Good night. The sun will rise tomorrow and the good Lord will watch over me. My success does not depend on who is in the white house.

411 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:11pm

at this point in the last election it seems we were at roughly the same place with the MSM salivating over exit polls

412 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:14pm

re: #362 bellamags

YES. i thought that the other day. It will take a lot of time, but it is the only way.

I for one will no longer patronize any business that advertises in the Philly Inquirer.

413 Opilio  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:19pm

It looks as though Jeremiah Wright's request was granted tonight.

414 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:20pm

We are FUCKEDDD!

415 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:34pm

re: #321 Globular Cluster

McCain better not better fucking concede for at least 3 hours months.

FTFY.

416 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:37pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

He ran an absolutely terrible campaign.

He was my pick at the outset, let's be clear. But his campaign was bafflingly, maddeningly incompetent.

Sure, he ran a bad campaign. But nobody could possibly have run a worse campaign than John McCain.

417 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:37pm

re: #379 David IV of Georgia

I think I need a few more high capacity clips...

I think you mean magazines.

Hit the deck and give me forty!

418 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:23:52pm

re: #359 MandyManners

I had to stand in front of a porch honkey (my own description of the local redneck democrats) for over an hour today while he talked about Halliburton and their $200 per plate meals for soldiers in Iraq and how George Bush is controlling gasoline prices. It took all my might to not turn around and engage the moron.

419 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:01pm

re: #297 Iron Fist

That does appear to be the case. Terrorist fears are trumped by the promise of lots of goodies from the communal pot. Obama effectively bought this election. Both with his unprecedented spending and his promises to pillage the rich for the benefit of the poor. He's going to be spreading around the Poverty.

here's what 's going to happen. for example w/ me, when the taxation becomes too onerous, i will quit.
i will flat out quit and there will nothing they can get from me.
i won't go in the red for all the idiots who are laying around waiting on their free stuff. i will live frugally and i won't be the only one who pulls back.
this is how the economy is destroyed, the will of the maker's and the doer's is crushed and the rest inevitable. poverty of spirit and poverty of goods.

420 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:03pm

re: #326 crazy cat lady

My nephew in the Air Force just signed on for 6 more years in June, deployed to Iraq in September.

God bless him. I'll pray for his safety.

421 REMESSIS  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:03pm

re: #180 MandyManners

I have not been able to get that out of my head all day, I woke up with Red Dawn on the brain, good call

422 stonewater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:04pm

FYI...I did contact the advertisers of the LA Times and told them I would refuse to do business with people who supported their irresponsible behavior of not releasing the Khalidi tape. I then contacted the businesses that I do business with. Verizon Wireless--gone the second my contract is up, ING--my husband has his company's 401(k) plans there. He will be shopping for a new place to park his money. No more BP gas (they did send me an e-mail saying that they don't get involved in politics. I told them it was a lousy excuse for supporting something so blatantly wrong).

I was one of the handful on our side in Cuyahoga County. I think Obama support was compounded because of the large Jewish community here. Speaking of which, want to bet there will be video of the Palestinians celebrating within the next 24 hours.

I'm taking a sleeping pill and hope I wake up to better news in the morning.

423 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:07pm

The last three times I crunched the numbers in Ohio- McCain was gaining.

424 AdamWebber  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:11pm

Kay Hagan who has apparently unseated Senator Elizabeth Dole in NC just appealed on Bloomberg channel to 'stop the partisan bickering.' Easy to say with a huge majority, and all too familiar meme. Akin to labeling anyone who doesn't support the Annointed One a racist. Time to categorically reject the Left's Labels and turn the accusations around, fight fire with fire.

425 Boxy_brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:23pm

re: #327 Jetpilot1101

"Screw the RINO's and winning elections. "

LOL... So we don't need to win elections.

"I'd rather have 5 legit conservatives voted in than 15 RINO's."

So would Pelosi, Reid and Obama.

" It's time to steamroll these marxists."

With all 5 of 'em.

"We need to defeat the left not work with them!"

Agreed, but it is a numbers game. The thing is, with self proclaimed arbiters of what republicanism is alienating people in the party we are not going to have the opportunity to "defeat" anything but ourselves.

426 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:23pm

Pray for a large Democrat split in Congress.

Large things do have a way of fracturing under their weight.

427 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:30pm

re: #412 ErislDysnomia

I for one will no longer patronize any business that advertises in the Philly Inquirer.

and that's no matter who wins or loses.

The fact that the MSM put an Obama where he is (either close or in the presidency, either one) is enough for me to say "enough is enough."

428 opinionated  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:36pm

re: #375 Charles

Who could have done a better job than McCain?

Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata because he wouldn't toe the social conservative line.

This, my friends, is known as "cutting one's own throat."

And it will continue as you will see from those who somehow took the lesson from this campaign that what was needed- and is needed for the future -is a "true conservative".

Giuliani even as VP may have made a difference.

429 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:42pm

Unlike the mysterious loss of all the W's in 2000, the keyboard O's will transfer with all Whitehouse PC's.

430 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:43pm

test

431 Junior  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:24:49pm

re: #375 Charles

Who could have done a better job than McCain?

Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata because he wouldn't toe the social conservative line.

Romney could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was a Mormon, and couldn't be trusted.

This, my friends, is known as "cutting one's own throat."

No, this is what you call "there was no conservative in the race so no matter what we did we were screwed"

We need a Reagan to win. Period.

432 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:25:17pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

The last three times I crunched the numbers in Ohio- McCain was gaining.

How is he gaining?

PLEASE elaborate sharm youre killing me.

433 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:25:26pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

He ran an absolutely terrible campaign.

He was my pick at the outset, let's be clear. But his campaign was bafflingly, maddeningly incompetent.

AMEN. I couldn't believe the incompetence of their maneuvering.

McCain was the "moderate" pick because it was understood that only a moderate had a chance in this election. Sorry, but it appears NO republican had a chance this time 'round -- the reaction of the electorate to a perceived "failed" Bush (Republican) administration + the financial crisis did in any chance of Republicans to retain control of the Presidency.

434 stevieray  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:25:42pm

I hate silver linings.

I hate 'em... hate 'em... hate 'em... but I'm going to give mine anyway.

We no longer have to hear "America is a racist country" anymore. No more at all, anywhere, from anyone, over anything... ever.

I'm not kidding.

Every racial or ethnic minority who complains about "the system" will hear "shut your ignorant piehole" from me. I will not be polite.

If Obama can become president, your failures are no longer attributable to "the system". If he can do it, anyone can. No more excuses.

You fail at life, you are a failure, not America.

No more excuses! No more double standards. No more guilt extortion.

We are completely free from that accusation... all who try to use it, from the MSM to academe, can shut their pieholes.

I'll just point to the White House, and give them the finger.

435 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:25:45pm

re: #227 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I work with a lot of extreme moonbats. They're going to be insufferable.

That's one of the things I dread the most: dealing with all te moonbats out there that are going to think they're such fucking hot stuff and will be gloating about how right they [think] they were.

The other thing I'm dreading is the thought of two, maybe three members of the SCOTUS being selected during this next 4 years... who will probably be ultra-Liberal, "the Constitution is a living document" types.

The former can be endured, though it'll be Hell. The latter could be a deathblow to this country.

436 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:11pm

re: #422 stonewater

FYI...I did contact the advertisers of the LA Times and told them I would refuse to do business with people who supported their irresponsible behavior of not releasing the Khalidi tape. I then contacted the businesses that I do business with. Verizon Wireless--gone the second my contract is up, ING--my husband has his company's 401(k) plans there. He will be shopping for a new place to park his money. No more BP gas (they did send me an e-mail saying that they don't get involved in politics. I told them it was a lousy excuse for supporting something so blatantly wrong).

Imagine when 50 million people adopt this strategy.

437 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:16pm

So I guess this means that we are about to go to war with Pakistan.

438 6pat6  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:29pm
If John McCain is the nominee, we’re going to have at least four years of a Democrat in the White House—and with some estimating that Iran will have a bomb within two years, that means we’d have a Democrat facing a nuclear-armed Iran. (Because we know they’re not going to do anything serious to stop it.)

Four years of Carter - Iran became our enemy, because Carter was too big of a pussy to do anything about the Ayatollah. They attacked US soil, and Carter wanted to play nice with thugs.

Four years of B-HO - Iran, which declared war on the US in 1979, now has nuclear weapons capability, and has never "undeclared" war on us. America, still naively convinced that Iran is just a "tiny little country that poses no threat", sits back while its once-staunch ally Israel single-handedly delivers the one-two ass-kicking to Iran that it so richly needed thirty years ago. Obama pleads to the Israelis for "tolerance and peace" between Israel and Iran, and to stop being so "mean" to peaceful Iran. Israel tells B-HO to kiss their asses. America loses face to the world, yet again. America finally wakes up to the idiocy of B-HO and his assclowns, and promptly tosses his sorry ass out of office in '12.

439 Not amazed in NJ  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:38pm

re: #10 Karridine

My CPU is a 4-8-8-4 Challenger, but it cannot pull PJTV
AND
much of anything else, same time

I hope it burns oil since Obama will ban coal.

440 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:38pm

I grieve for this nation, and the agonies that it is about to endure.
I weep for the proud and patriotic America that once was.

And I weep for the unfathomable mess that we are about to pass down to our children, and our childrens' children.

How could we have failed them so utterly?

441 NYCHardhat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:50pm

I don't think McCain wanted the job. I will not watch TV for the next four years.

442 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:57pm

re: #321 Globular Cluster

McCain better not F*ing concede AT ALL. Let the whole of the votes be counted. All of them.

443 rickadams  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:26:59pm

re: #227 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I work with a lot of extreme moonbats. They're going to be insufferable.

TELL me about it. I'm just going to have to keep my mouth shut and take it. I'm not looking forward to tomorrow morning.

444 ReneeJoy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:01pm

funny but the candidate of hope leaves me hopeless.

445 Arby Dwiar  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:01pm

re: #381 gmsc

Ouch!

446 Boxy_brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:07pm

re: #375 Charles


Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata because he wouldn't toe the social conservative line...

This, my friends, is known as "cutting one's own throat."

In other words he was a "RINO".

447 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:14pm

re: #309 realwest

Hello, RW - Hope you're doing well (under the circumstances...)

I'm thinking it's part of the same, horrible cycle that brought the Dhims to power after Vietnam in the form of uber-douche, Jimmy Carter and the Dhim Congress that got millions killed in Cambodia; that granted us double-digit inflation, unemployment, and international humiliation at the hands of the Iranians.

That brought about Reagan; the Contract with America; the growth of the economy; the fumbling years of Bush, Sr. That gave us a relatively moderate dress-stainer in Clinton, who led us to 9/11.

That brought us to war; under a Repub Pres and Repub Congress.

That let to a Dhim takeover of Congress; that will grant us a new uber-douche in Obama; that will lead to double-digit inflation, unemployment, and pending humiliation at the hands of the Iranians ...

448 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:26pm
449 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:31pm

re: #375 Charles

Who could have done a better job than McCain?

Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata because he wouldn't toe the social conservative line.

Romney could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was a Mormon, and couldn't be trusted.

This, my friends, is known as "cutting one's own throat."

Abso-fucking-lutely!

With either one of these guys, we'd have been looking at a landslide victory for the Republicans right now.

450 StinkHammer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:32pm

re: #396 Charles

McCain got the nomination, not because he was a "maverick," but because he was a Washington good old boy, with lots of Washington good old boy friends.

Sorry, but I say that's horseshit -- he got the nod due to open primary electors going for the "moderate." (Unless you consider McCain to be a staunch, hard line Republican.)

451 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:27:46pm

OK, let me just throw this out there. I'm curious how others feel. My wife and I are both very conservative, former military, still do work related to the military as civilians, voted for Bush both times, etc. Sick to my stomach at how things have turned out tonight.

However.

We both agree that the one good thing about this outcome is that we have elected a black man to the presidency. As much as I absolutely despise his politics, I think it's kinda cool that we have put that check in the box...and I thank God it wasn't Jackson or Sharpton.

452 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:00pm

re: #432 astronmr20

His deficit is shrinking.

453 opinionated  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:01pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

He ran an absolutely terrible campaign.

He was my pick at the outset, let's be clear. But his campaign was bafflingly, maddeningly incompetent.

He had no campaign. Because Republicans give a veto to people who vote in the primaries for a Christian Leader. As in Iowa.

Imagine if the primaries started in States that mattered tonight, PA, FL, what kind of campaign would Giuliani have had then?

454 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:06pm

re: #435 NomadOfNorad

The other thing I'm dreading is the thought of two, maybe three members of the SCOTUS being selected during this next 4 years... who will probably be ultra-Liberal, "the Constitution is a living document" types.

I can just see the approval hearings:

"Name? OK, let's vote this guy/gal in."

455 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:06pm

America has freely chosen to become a nation of slaves.
Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

456 Archimedes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:09pm

re: #284 jcm

The root of the problem is "Ayers" the Marxist have penetrated our education system to the point that half the population doesn't recognize the enemy of liberty when the see and hear it. They are not taught the critical thinking skills to ask, simple question of the MSM which would show them to be the fools they are.

I agree. The msm are simply doing what they were taught in universities. And it's worse than Marxism, it's postmodernism, which means people bowing to multiculturalism and the environment.

But, what has been laid bare is that leftists are intellectually and morally bankrupt. Even if Obama wins this election he won't get very far, because the public won't put up with the things he said he wants to do. Remember, we've been lied to for two years regarding who Obama is. I think the public will revolt when they find out what he wants to do. I'm hoping this is what happens.

457 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:31pm

re: #404 Kosh's Shadow

Plenty more to infuriate Americans?
Like the nukes that go off in Tel Aviv, NY, Washington, and LA.

I'd prefer it not to be anything so deadly, but yeah, maybe. I'm sure Michael Moore can convince them not to hit blue cities this time.

/do I need this?

458 outsidephilly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:42pm

Why are y'all settling for this, and I speak for myself.
Remember the Lizard Prayer List?
This election should be/must be at the top of that list . . . , we all should take a deep breath, and sit with God.
God hears the prayers of the righteous man, and those prayers availeth much!

Why not 'talk' to God? I firmly believe if we turn our hearts to God and seek Him, He will hear us, and give this nation a reprieve of sorts.

459 loppyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:43pm

Murtha claiming victory but Fox hasn't called it for him.

He's giving his "victory" speech now and it's not clear his opponent conceded.

460 readytofight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:51pm

Not trying to offend anyone, but are the people in Penn. friggin idiots?

461 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:28:56pm

re: #425 Boxy_brown

Agreed, but it is a numbers game. The thing is, with self proclaimed arbiters of what republicanism is alienating people in the party we are not going to have the opportunity to "defeat" anything but ourselves.

RINO's alienate and piss off the real conservatives. If people with real spines would stand up, we'd win elections. Unfortunately, no one wants to vote for spineless asshats. I think that America will be sick of marxists in 2 years and we'll be back in power but with a Reagan ideology. It's time for a new contract with America but this time we need to make sure it sticks.

When democrats start losing their jobs, buyers remorse will set in.

462 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:02pm

re: #417 Occasional Reader

I think you mean magazines.

Hit the deck and give me forty!

And I said guns instead of weapons...

463 spidly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:05pm

re: #441 NYCHardhat

I don't think McCain wanted the job. I will not watch TV for the next four years.

turn off the cable. you can rent your favourite show on dvd.

weee!

anyone got a business friendly red state to suggest for a guy to move to?

464 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:18pm

re: #369 gmsc

This is news. They must've stopped calling states on a lark in the past hour.

They do it on the basis of statistical modeling.

/this isn't close enough to get excited about

465 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:19pm

re: #361 pablito

FWIW North Carolina just went to 50/50 with 75 pct reporting.

I just mentioned that,
but does it really matter?

We rural southern, gun toting, bible thumping rednecks will put his ass under a NC bus.

466 Globular Cluster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:39pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

He ran an absolutely terrible campaign.

He was my pick at the outset, let's be clear. But his campaign was bafflingly, maddeningly incompetent.

Very true. I watched in frustration as he failed to campaign in all states but Florida.

467 jd171  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:42pm

It is not a matter of which Republican was going to do better against HBO. The annointed has on his side the MSM, which streams his message for all of the fools to believe. FOX I am not taking anything from you but that was not enough. McCain's message was not carried out enough. Of course if I remember McCain was not the first candidate of choice. Correct me if I am wrong was it not the Dems who crossed party lines and voted for McCain in the primaries that caused or is the actual reason we wound up with him as our candidate? Frankly, I believe that Romney or Huckabee would of have been better opponents. What we needed was a candidate who was willing to take off the gloves and not be so nicey nicey. Which is what McCain never did, he never wanted to offend the "Chosen One" and of course if he would of ever have the race card was always pulled. Which did happen to Hillary.

We must unite and gather our party and begin now to plan for the mid-term elections and to bring forth a Conservative House and Congress to thwart every move this Socialist brings forth.

JD171, out.
Roosevelt Democrat by birth, Reagan Conservative by choice.

468 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:45pm

re: #438 6pat6

Iran, which declared war on the US in 1979, now has nuclear weapons capability, and has never "undeclared" war on us. America, still naively convinced that Iran is just a "tiny little country that poses no threat", sits back while its once-staunch ally Israel single-handedly delivers the one-two ass-kicking to Iran that it so richly needed thirty years ago.

If O wins, what will W have to lose by helping in this endeavor before inauguration day...

/just sayin

469 Desert Dog  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:48pm

re: #437 Syrah

But First, we must get the heck outta Iraq pronto...I hope he has a little more sense than that

470 Metal Man  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:29:55pm

It will be interesting to see what the big O can actually accomplish with his win, politically.
I was hoping for prosperity with an O loss but I'll do ok no matter what.

The American dream may be wounded but it ain't dead.

471 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:07pm

And to rub salt into the wound, Murtha won.

472 spidly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:19pm

do we get a senator franken?

473 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:27pm

re: #324 MandyManners

A big SHOUT OUT to you righteous Volunteers!

Mandy... you and Sharmuta ... have been an inspiration to me during this stupid election ... I am sad that this election through the media has given a free pass to to treat women the way the have ... I guess sexism is still okay in this country ... as long as it is a conservative woman ... sad ... very sad ...

474 sleepyone  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:29pm

I have never felt so alienated from my country.

I see today's democrats and their supporters as Skynet of the Terminator movies (and TV show) and conservatives are the resistance. Skynet has succeeded tonight but we cannot let ourselves falter. Make no mistake, they are a ruthless killing machine and feel no compassion despite their "platform". They want to exterminate us but they will never be able to win because of the human spirit and our longing for freedom. We will prevail. We have to prevail.

I'm having an Iron Fist moment and should probably stop posting tonight.

475 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:38pm

re: #452 Sharmuta

His deficit is shrinking.

Are you looking at WSJ?

I don't see that on there.

476 Scion9  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:43pm

re: #387 scratch

Let me say it again: it'll all be George W. Bush's fault. Mark my words...no accountability from that crowd for at least 4 years.

Uh. They are still giving FDR credit for fixing Hoover's economy, when in reality he only made things worse. They are still giving credit to Lyndon Johnson for the Civil Rights movement. Four years? It has been a lot longer than four years.

477 CofactorMatrix  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:49pm

This is dismal. One one hand, I hope for the sake of the country's immediate future that NumbNuts doesn't fcuk it up too badly. On the other hand, maybe we need 4 years of a total disaster to have a major turnover in '12. I think I have a little more confidence that the latter will eventuate.

Nonetheless, the people appear to have spoken. I hope we like $12/gallon gas and $4/KwH electricity (when it's actually on), 'cause that's what we're going to get. The leftards are going to run amok!

478 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:54pm

I'm trying to wrap my head around the fact that the same people who would've spit on John McCain upon his return to Vietnam could be at the White House in Januray as VIP guests of the president...

479 Desert Dog  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:57pm

re: #471 HelloDare

And to rub salt into the wound, Murtha won.

Not yet, it is too close to call...Murtha called it for himself

480 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:30:59pm

re: #434 stevieray

I hate silver linings.

I hate 'em... hate 'em... hate 'em... but I'm going to give mine anyway.

We no longer have to hear "America is a racist country" anymore. No more at all, anywhere, from anyone, over anything... ever.

I'm not kidding.

Every racial or ethnic minority who complains about "the system" will hear "shut your ignorant piehole" from me. I will not be polite.

If Obama can become president, your failures are no longer attributable to "the system". If he can do it, anyone can. No more excuses.

You fail at life, you are a failure, not America.

No more excuses! No more double standards. No more guilt extortion.

We are completely free from that accusation... all who try to use it, from the MSM to academe, can shut their pieholes.

I'll just point to the White House, and give them the finger.

Not to mention...We are now absolved of sin in the eyes of THE WORLD.

If some tinpot dictator rises or falls...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If some Muslim fanatics take over a country...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If oil prices rise...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If the oceans rise and the Earth doesn't heal...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If genocide kills millions...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If nuclear weapons proliferate...it isn't America's fault anymore.

481 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:31:05pm

re: #87 alien_mind

no Republican was going to do any better against Obama than McCain has.

... oh yes I forgot... and not a 'good old boy' Beltway insider!

482 Big Boots that's boots  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:31:07pm

If Mac didn't want to play dirty (Rev Wright, etc) then he shouldn't gotten into the Hog Pen called Politics. His "honor" will cost us alot.

483 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:31:17pm

Night all... let them count the votes... pray for our country...hope that Obama's success actually derails Bill Ayers' plan for revolution (I'm betting he thought for sure this racist country would never elect the black guy... and they had everything ready to start real revolution when Obama lost).

Now, Obama gets to be POTUS... guess what Mr. Hope-n-Change now for the first time in your life you are responsible for something. Prick.

484 runrabbitrun  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:31:20pm

re: #227 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I work with a lot of extreme moonbats. They're going to be insufferable.

Frick it. Let them go crazy and have their celebration, heck, I would.

Please don't personalize this and carry it inside you, you'll be sick, when we need conservatives to be wise and strong.

This is like a bereavement, it's true. It's heartbreaking. We had hope for a long time and we had to put it to rest tonight. But the next four years would be a b!tch of a time for any administration, and the sooner that the nation learns how well they did under Bush and a Repub congress or those first six years, the better - while the memory of our charging economy then is still fresh. And the US will not like seeing our nation take third world status and assume a defensive crouch with our security.

The moderate Dem voters are going to despise the MSM too, when they see that they have been sold a bill of goods. THEY DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING - Obama ran as a moderate Dem, and only about 20% of the country knew about it. Listen to Rush tomorrow, and cheer up. Hey, for the first time in eight years, we can have some fun playing offense against the POTUS. Ain't y'all tired of trying to defend our guy?

(((lizards)))

485 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:31:31pm

Interesting photo up at Hillbuzz right now.

486 realwest  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:31:50pm

re: #375 Charles
Charles - with all due respect, the majority of American voters tonight definitively voted Centrist Left.
Just look at the Congressional elections to see just how far centrist left the country turned. I wanted Rudy too because I thought he'd make a better President than would McCain - and the same for Romney; but neither Rudy nor Romney could match McCain for being "centrist" of any shade and the American Electorate decided tonight to go left. Hopefully not TOO FAR left, but left nonetheless - just check out the Senate and House votes.

487 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:32:05pm

re: #434 stevieray

Every racial or ethnic minority who complains about "the system" will hear "shut your ignorant piehole" from me. I will not be polite.

It's always a good idea to be polite.

488 Archimedes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:32:10pm

re: #375 Charles

Who could have done a better job than McCain?

Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata because he wouldn't toe the social conservative line.

Romney could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was a Mormon, and couldn't be trusted.

This, my friends, is known as "cutting one's own throat."

Giuliani was my choice. Too bad, eh?

489 NYCHardhat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:32:17pm

I guess there are alot of brainwashed mooches in this country. I should see if I qualify for free gas and mortgage,,,Nope.

490 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:32:30pm

re: #480 Dar ul Harbarian

Not to mention...We are now absolved of sin in the eyes of THE WORLD.

If some tinpot dictator rises or falls...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If some Muslim fanatics take over a country...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If oil prices rise...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If the oceans rise and the Earth doesn't heal...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If genocide kills millions...it isn't America's fault anymore.

If nuclear weapons proliferate...it isn't America's fault anymore.


I might actually have to join you on this thinking.

491 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:32:34pm

re: #324 MandyManners

A big SHOUT OUT to you righteous Volunteers!

Hey, did ya know Phil Fulmer resigned yesterday?

492 BigMoo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:32:37pm

re: #354 RTLM

pssst Obama,

Those pesky questions about Ayers, Khalidi, Wright, Columbia, etc...

aren't going away.

YES they will- Media members who don't 'play ball' have already been locked out by the messiah-and 'non believers' like Joe the Plumber will be publicly trashed and minimized.
But hey, the mid-terms are in two years will be the start of our comeback-so toss down some Cuervo and buckle up.

493 Joe in Australia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:32:50pm

I'm not a citizen of the USA, but your country is the flagship of the free world and its choice of leader affects us all. I was disappointed by the major parties' candidates and their running mates. I think much of the vitriol directed against Sarah Palin was occasioned by people who didn't want to address Barack Obama's deficiencies: he seems extraordinarily lightweight to be the leader of the USA, and I frankly have little more confidence in the wisdom of John McCain.

This election more than most will leave many angry and disappointed voters. I hope the readers of this blog will remember that losses suffered by the USA embolden its enemies while saddening its friends, and that regardless of circumstance a patriot is one who wishes his country well.

494 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:07pm

I'm expecting that Israel will observe the election results with some fireworks in the near future.

495 Catttt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:16pm

Some good news - Timothy Mahoney in Florida is out. The revenge of the ex-mistress, and more power to her.

496 readytofight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:20pm

Re:456

I'd like to think you're right, but I just can't see it. If they're dumb enough to vote this marxist in, I don't think they'll have an awakening. I think there's just too many people on the take in our country.

497 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:33pm

Nobody, nobody, nobody would have made a lickspittle's difference.

The Millennial Generation came of age this cycle, saw how badly the Republican congress botched things, heard how ineptly President Bush sold things and that was all that was needed. Add in the Leftist Temper Tantrum their complete takeover of the media, and the results of their concerted effort to destroy children's minds and the fix was in. Soros' millions were the icing on the cake.

498 MNsnowlizard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:33pm

Well, hell. This morning Fat Bastard Vegetarian made a funny comment about today being my first commenting day, and I replied saying that I needed that seeing this was going to be the day from Hell. Well, little did I know what kind of Hellish day this would be: work sucked (when doesn't it), my dad had a colonoscopy and the dr found a growth and now this. Who knows, a miracle may happen. But hopefully all those idiots who voted for a messiah and not a president, I hope you enjoy the crap that is going to happen because of this.

OT: Goddess of the Classroom, you had me on the prayer list for my heart. Had my test last week and what I have is Patient Prothesis Mismatch, basically my artificial valve I had put in during my surgery in February, is too small for my aorta. But as long as I don't show symptoms I should be okay. BUT, Goddess, could you add my dad, Lester to the prayer list? Thanks!

499 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:39pm

re: #449 NomadOfNorad

Abso-fucking-lutely!

With either one of these guys, we'd have been looking at a landslide victory for the Republicans right now.

I would have voted for either of them,

/the evangelicals wouldn't have, Sarah Palin is what got McCain within striking distance

500 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:47pm

well I suppose 14 hours on lgf is enough for 1 day.Life continues tomorrow and I maintain it ain't over yet

501 Arby Dwiar  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:33:51pm

re: #419 nyc redneck

here's what 's going to happen. for example w/ me, when the taxation becomes too onerous, i will quit.
i will flat out quit and there will nothing they can get from me.
i won't go in the red for all the idiots who are laying around waiting on their free stuff. i will live frugally and i won't be the only one who pulls back.
this is how the economy is destroyed, the will of the maker's and the doer's is crushed and the rest inevitable. poverty of spirit and poverty of goods.

Me too.

(multiplied by how many?

502 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:01pm

re: #451 scratch

Well - the good aspect is that it *should* eliminate ANY thoughts of inadequacy on the part of blacks - BUT, how will that play to the strengths of the race-hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton?

I certainly don't think Obomber is qualified or capable; JC Watts or Michael Steele have 10x the capability, if you're looking for leadership. However, they wouldn't toe the line to the MSM kingmakers and be subservient.

If the Repubs supposedly represent wealth, they need to keep people wealthy for their base. IF the Dhims supposedly represent the poor and downtrodden, then they need to keep 'em poor and downtrodden.

Obomber's a chimera. That's about it.

503 Randall Gross  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:08pm

We have surfed to the end of the Reagan wave, and are back to the Republican party I grew up with. We faced greater existential threats at that time, and worse economies, we survived and we grew.
We grew by building alliances as well as accepting that there would be some differences within the bigger tent party.
Kudos to McCain, Kudos to Palin. No Republican could have won in this economic environment and with the Bush legacy on their back. [it will improve over time - the things he put in motion will take another decade to play out, but the American people have never been known for patience.]
So we are back to being a minority party - that means we are rebuilding and that starts at the farm team. How many Lizards can name their state legislators?

504 Palmetto Patriot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:20pm

I'm sure BHO realizes he can't try to yank the country too far left. He must recall what happened to Clinton in '94. My hunch is he'll try to govern more toward the center than he's campaigned.

Then again, what do I know?

505 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:22pm

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

506 Karridine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:27pm

re: #439 Not amazed in NJ

(Thoughts of coal-burning CPU just put a smile on MY face, Not Amazed! :D )
Remember, people, there's still a LONG WAY TO GO, and this election is NOT over yet!

507 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:34pm

re: #485 HelloDare

Interesting photo up at Hillbuzz right now.

Which one? Are you referring to the "thumbs down/Kool-Aid" lady that's been at the top of the page for the past 2 weeks?

508 opinionated  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:36pm

re: #396 Charles

McCain got the nomination, not because he was a "maverick," but because he was a Washington good old boy, with lots of Washington good old boy friends.

He got the nomination because for one reason or another the others were eliminated.

The winner of Iowa could win nowhere else.

McCain and Giuliani competed for the exact same voters and once McCain won NH, where they knew him, Giuliani was as good as dead

Romney was too much of a fake for any number of constituencies. And why was he a fake? He was a pretty impressive man. He was a fake because he attempted to twist himself to appeal to the worst instincts of the "true" Conservatives.

509 davinvalkri  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:34:52pm

Oh boy, I think we're going to see a Democrat hat trick tomorrow. If they end up passing the fairness doctrine, I'll join you guys underground; maybe we can rotate the IP numbers so no one catches us or something...

510 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:35:06pm

Lazlo- I'm still waiting for your definition of "neocon".

511 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:35:27pm

re: #430 mama winger

test

did we pass? BTW, I think your polling place was featured in The Corner today: [Link: lutheranlogomaniac.com...] Is this your place?

512 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:35:33pm

re: #315 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Thanks for the pat on the shoulder. Back at 'ya! We're going to need that...

513 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:35:37pm

re: #416 Charles

Sure, he ran a bad campaign. But nobody could possibly have run a worse campaign than John McCain.

How true. The Obamination was inside the McCain ODDA loop from the very kick off. Given that it was only a matter of when that McC had his tail shot off!

514 jamsler  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:35:49pm

I haven't felt like this since 9/11.

Generations of the fallen brave, this nation our heroes died to save.
they cry out in anguish from the grave
our freedoms that away we gave
for cult-like worship of a knave.

All those years in the Navy to defend this country as it rotted from within. We go and elect this phony piece of shit.
Weeping.

515 Jimmah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:00pm

Fellow Lizards:

I've just been sick onto my trousers, shoes and carpet, which pretty much marks the end of the night for me here as I'm going to have to go and clean it up in a moment. (Posting on LGF while partially encrusted in my own vomit isn't really something I want to get into a habit of.)

Try to have a good one folks:) Just remember - Obama might turn out to be more Tony Blairs II than Jimmy Carter II...

516 spidly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:02pm

re: #494 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I'm expecting that Israel will observe the election results with some fireworks in the near future.

gotta make it quick and we better be involved.
some work to do in Syria in the next couple months as well.
the qadafi/putin and chavez/putin friendships...

517 lori lane  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:05pm

I don't think I can bare to watch McCain's concession speech. Might just go on to bed and catch it on youtube in the morning. Just damn.

518 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:09pm

I cant wait until some big union boys go to these moonbat business and demand they sign union cards.

Mr. Bambi Please help us!

lo

519 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:09pm

re: #505 Syrah

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

Adults, mostly.

520 stonewater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:20pm

re: #271 livefreeor die

That's exactly what the hubby and I will do. We'll also cut back on expenses and just work less. I'm damned if I'll pay for others to sit around doing nothing. If they want more money, they can f*&^ing work for it.

I think if we all cut our discretionary spending by 10%, and those nasty mean small business owners have to cut expenses, then those glossy eyed Obamites can experience his solution for the economy firsthand.

My husband is a foreclosure attorney. If The One puts a hold on all foreclosures for 90 days as he promised, then those who voted for Obama will be the first to be laid off. There will be tons of judges,magistrates and court clerks with a paid 90 day vacation.

521 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:30pm

I'll keep this to a minimum.
But I read somewhere that in Judaism, Mashiach (the Messiah) will come when all the governments of the world are heretical.
Tell me Black Liberation Enslavement Theology isn't heretical.

May Mashiach come SOON!

522 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:37pm

The other aspect of tonight that is absolutely sickening - is the fact that the majority of the MSM will just spend the next several months patting themselves on the back over the 'job' that they did this cycle...while continuing their efforts.

523 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:41pm

re: #505 Syrah

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

Me, for one.

524 spidly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:36:51pm

re: #515 Jimmah

Fellow Lizards:

I've just been sick onto my trousers, shoes and carpet, which pretty much marks the end of the night for me here as I'm going to have to go and clean it up in a moment. (Posting on LGF while partially encrusted in my own vomit isn't really something I want to get into a habit of.)

Try to have a good one folks:) Just remember - Obama might turn out to be more Tony Blairs II than Jimmy Carter II...

good luck with that

525 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:01pm

re: #505 Syrah

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

All of us?

526 mahatma coat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:08pm

re: #515 Jimmah

thanks for swharing that with us

527 legalpad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:08pm

re: #401 Caboose

Said more than this on a previous thread but I repeat:

Ranger up, soldiers!

War is a series of defeats followed by victory. Don't forget that. Whine and moan and curl up in the fetal position if you must FOR NOW, but never, ever, EVER give up! Lick your wounds, dress the damage and get back on the front lines of taking this country back. It is only two years to 2010 and four to 2012 and I think that this county will be sick of 24x7 Democrats sooner than later. The future is ours to lose, so let's start working for victory now.

And this is the end of the bulls#it that this is a racist nation; if we can elect a black (well 'mulatto' is a more accurate term) president, the label can be hung on us no longer. It's dead. Small victory, but a victory none the less.

Do not ever, ever, EVER GIVE UP! Lizard Rangers lead the way! Caboose out.

(I need a drink...)

Yeah - Which European country was that that elected someone of African descent? Oh, yeah, they didn't. No, it is left for "racist" America to do that. And what in the hell are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton going to do with themselves?

528 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:18pm

Secularism has given way to Socialism. Frankly, I won't miss McCain but I'm already missing the next 4 years w/ Sarah Palin as VP.

529 Mars Needs Neocons  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:18pm

re: #246 Badge of Kaffir Pride

There will be a mass exodus from the military.

Honestly don't count on it. Many thought that we would leave the service en masse during CLintons terms. We didn't, it was safer to stay where we were, at least until RIFFED.

530 SummerSong  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:18pm

I feel like piglet...

531 6pat6  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:29pm

re: #468 ErislDysnomia

W just wants to get the hell out of town now. He was completely silent during most of the two years of non-stop friggin' campaigning that our Presidential elections have boiled down to. He was exceptionally disappointing over the past two years. McCain did nothing to truly differentiate himself from Bush in the eyes of the electorate.

Israel - can it depend on our help in the next two months if shit really DOES hit the fan? We know if BHO really does become POTUS, we are not there for Israel. A truly sad state of affairs, and I believe that we are in for really serious shit that BHO will not have a clue how to avoid.

532 snowcrash  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:33pm

Time to turn the TV off. Pelosi and Reid UGH. Anything worth watching on another channel?

533 NYCHardhat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:45pm

I'm going to go to bed for 4 years.

534 AdamWebber  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:48pm

re: #247 Syrah

Iowa has lost its mind.

Iowa has lost [sold out] its soul.

535 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:57pm

re: #505 Syrah

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

Us lizards.

536 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:37:59pm

Medved's on Hugh Hewitt right now.

Own up to your support of McCain in the primaries Michael!

537 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:38:12pm

re: #411 mahatma coat

at this point in the last election it seems we were at roughly the same place with the MSM salivating over exit polls

No, at this point in the last election, I had just arrived home from working at the polls. And though the numbers on tv showed a close race, with Kerry ahead in some critical places, James Carville was hanging his head and saying it was a bad night for Democrats. Because he knew where the uncounted votes were coming from, and he knew who they would be for, and he knew that the last clause should have used the word "whom."

538 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:38:14pm
539 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:38:16pm

Personally, I liked Giuliani -- I thought he was the best guy going...I sorta figured McCain was a lame duck (it was the perfect choice of the Democrats.) O well, ya get what ya deserve...(although, of course, it makes me sick to my stomach)...Way I figured it also --anyone -- anyone -- including Hillary (you name it -- a dog -- anyone) was better than Obama (that despiser/hater of America)...Now let's see just how much Obama pays tribute to his "buddies" (and, yeah, it won't be to "neo-Cons")...

540 ArmyWife  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:38:23pm

re: #396 Charles

Which is what is wrong with my part. Washington doesn't understand what WE want, and it wasn't McCain. If he gets in by some miracle, I will support him as he is by far better than the Socialist Party candidate.

Let this be a wake up call, RNC. The Country is NOT middle left, and above the fray isn't always understood on the street. I don't advocate fighting dirty, but I certainly advocate using their tactics against them, which means we get out on the street and we call thugs thugs. We call communists communists not the last week of the campaign, the whole damn thing. The press wants to be stupid? Call them on it. Loudly. Fact check (real fact checks) every hour on the hour. This can be done when you reach out to your base rather than telling your base how they SHOULD think. You deserted us and now we desert you. We begin rebuilding tomorrow - the way is should have been done.

541 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:38:36pm

Oh boy, Nancy and Harry are speaking at their own rally.

/bend over, it's going to be fast and furious

542 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:38:59pm

re: #419 nyc redneck

here's what 's going to happen. for example w/ me, when the taxation becomes too onerous, i will quit.
i will flat out quit and there will nothing they can get from me.
i won't go in the red for all the idiots who are laying around waiting on their free stuff. i will live frugally and i won't be the only one who pulls back.
this is how the economy is destroyed, the will of the maker's and the doer's is crushed and the rest inevitable. poverty of spirit and poverty of goods.

I think the tide will turn though when all the idiots don't get their free stuff.

I am so mad-one of my brothers-the one who jumps from job to job and is always trying to make a quick buck-voted for Obama. The first time he bitches about healthcare costs or how it's harder for him to get a job, I am going to laugh my butt off and also inform him that we are going to work less because it's up to him to support his own family.

543 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:39:02pm

I can't believe this.

544 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:39:42pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

The last three times I crunched the numbers in Ohio- McCain was gaining.

Getting tighter... still possible.

545 Captkirk35  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:39:43pm

Silver lining time..

It's time to set priorities and re-brand.

Priority 1: Get the budget under control and kill the debt

Priority 2: Fight for a strong, aggressive military

Priority 3: Start taking the culture back

546 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:39:57pm

McCain's deficit in OH shrinking still

547 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:40:03pm

re: #505 Syrah

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

Us.

548 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:40:05pm

The people who really piss me off tonight are the so-called "affluent suburbanites" who voted in droves for 0bama. WTF were they thinking? Them and the "it's for the children" soccer moms I saw all over the friggin' place with the 0bama stickers plastered on the bumpers of their minivans. My blood is about to boil.

549 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:40:16pm

re: #258 Karridine

Hammer, when 1,700,000 of the PRODUCING frogs close their American businesses and apply for benefits just like all the rest are getting, it can shock the Dear Leader something fierce, what with the simultaneous HIT on the Treasury AND reduction of the tax base...

WHY would anybody in their right mind continue to work IF ONLY TO PAY FOR LAZY AND INCOMPETENT?

/They're forced to, at gunpoint, I know I know...

John Galt Speaks! ;)

550 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:40:17pm

re: #463 spidly

turn off the cable. you can rent your favourite show on dvd.

weee!

anyone got a business friendly red state to suggest for a guy to move to?

Try Queensland Australia!

Get a Gold Coast house on a marina canal for about US$500k a boat a good job and throw another prawn on the Bar-B !

551 NYCHardhat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:40:17pm

Reminds me of the OJ trial.

552 BigMoo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:40:21pm

Yea, racism is officially dead in America. Maybe the world will love us again.
And then again, maybe they won't.
And who the hell cares anyway ?

553 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:40:35pm

Wait a minute...


If I'm not reading the WSJ incorrectly, considering the counties that are not reporting in, the state of Ohio may still be in play, by a hair.

554 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:41:01pm

re: #493 Joe in Australia

Amen, Joe -

We'll hope for the best (but then there's a reason 'hope' rhymes with 'dope'); it's time to get back to the grassroots and fix things at the base.

The folks on this blog always remember our friends on the side of being right - whether fighting evil, or providing assistance to those in need. I believe we'll recover from this in time - it'll take a load of buyers' remorse to sober up some of our 'hopier' ('dopier') citizens, but we'll get back in the lead.

Cheers!

555 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:41:05pm

re: #480 Dar ul Harbarian

And when America is destroyed, from both within and without, it will be nobody's fault but America

556 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:41:08pm

re: #529 Mars Needs Neocons

Honestly don't count on it. Many thought that we would leave the service en masse during CLintons terms. We didn't, it was safer to stay where we were, at least until RIFFED.

Clinton is nowhere near the demagogue empty suit Communist that Obama is. I'd be retiring if I was military because there's no way Stalin Lite would be my commander.

557 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:41:08pm

re: #486 realwest

I agree. Personally, I like both Romney and Rudy better but McCain was the right candidate to beat Obama. And he could have won if he had run a better campaign.

558 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:41:25pm
559 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:41:48pm

I repeat: Wheee!

560 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:01pm

re: #522 Athos

The other aspect of tonight that is absolutely sickening - is the fact that the majority of the MSM will just spend the next several months patting themselves on the back over the 'job' that they did this cycle...while continuing their efforts.

Not if 50 million+ conservatives boycott them and their advertisers, they won't.

561 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:02pm

how soon until he brings out all the fcking anti-american bums from under the bus and gives them a friendly greeting and a pat on the back.

562 greensbuickfarm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:02pm

Any lizards know about this guy?

Yuri Bezmenov, ex-KGB officer

If he is legit, he has BHO and our current situation NAILED...and this was from 1985.

It's a 15 min video, but well worth it.

(If this has been previously posted, I apologize--I just found this today.)

GBF

563 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:03pm

re: #507 gmsc

Which one? Are you referring to the "thumbs down/Kool-Aid" lady that's been at the top of the page for the past 2 weeks?

Yeah, that photo. Hadn't seen it.

564 ziggyelman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:04pm

re: #531 6pat6

W just wants to get the hell out of town now. He was completely silent during most of the two years of non-stop friggin' campaigning that our Presidential elections have boiled down to. He was exceptionally disappointing over the past two years. McCain did nothing to truly differentiate himself from Bush in the eyes of the electorate.

Israel - can it depend on our help in the next two months if shit really DOES hit the fan? We know if BHO really does become POTUS, we are not there for Israel. A truly sad state of affairs, and I believe that we are in for really serious shit that BHO will not have a clue how to avoid.

The only thing that might save Israel from Obama, is Obama wanting to be re-elected in 2012. If he turns his back on Israel in a few months, Jews will finally get the message, and will finally wise up and vote for republicans...

565 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:06pm

re: #401 Caboose

Said more than this on a previous thread but I repeat:

Ranger up, soldiers!

War is a series of defeats followed by victory. Don't forget that. Whine and moan and curl up in the fetal position if you must FOR NOW, but never, ever, EVER give up! Lick your wounds, dress the damage and get back on the front lines of taking this country back. It is only two years to 2010 and four to 2012 and I think that this county will be sick of 24x7 Democrats sooner than later. The future is ours to lose, so let's start working for victory now.

And this is the end of the bulls#it that this is a racist nation; if we can elect a black (well 'mulatto' is a more accurate term) president, the label can be hung on us no longer. It's dead. Small victory, but a victory none the less.

Do not ever, ever, EVER GIVE UP! Lizard Rangers lead the way! Caboose out.

(I need a drink...)

HELL YEAH! I am not going to blow sunshine up anybody's ass, this is a disaster of historic proportions, but it also gives us many opportunities. The media-industrial complex and the characteristic internal culture that has dominated it for 50 years are utterly discredited. They got their guy elected, but they threw their stock in trade, their pretense of objectivity, onto the fire to do it.
The media-left's economic policies, which created the current crisis, cannot help but make it worse, contributing to a further loss of what little mandate they can claim from a narrow popular vote margin.

The Republican party can be rebuilt along new and rational lines. The GOP elements that helped create this disaster by insisting on a social and religious litmus test for candidates can finally be purged. Charles has been uncompromising in his opposition to these elements, standing firm against creationists and conspiracy cranks alike. This put him at odds with much of the political right but he and the lizardoids are now vindicated, and in a perfect position to lead the resistance to Obamunist excesses and folly.

This fight isn't over, it has just begun.

566 yma o hyd  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:17pm

re: #431 Junior

No, this is what you call "there was no conservative in the race so no matter what we did we were screwed"

We need a Reagan to win. Period.

You had one - Sarah Palin.

Unfortunately all the beltway GOP bigwigs thought she was too common, and, horrors, a woman!

So if this is indeed over (can't believe it, not with votes still being counted!), then blame it on those in the GOP who sold the party and the country down teh river, don't blame it on McCain/Palin.

567 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:18pm

re: #508 opinionated

He got the nomination because for one reason or another the others were eliminated. The winner of Iowa could win nowhere else. McCain and Giuliani competed for the exact same voters and once McCain won NH, where they knew him, Giuliani was as good as dead

Romney was too much of a fake for any number of constituencies. And why was he a fake? He was a pretty impressive man. He was a fake because he attempted to twist himself to appeal to the worst instincts of the "true" Conservatives.

THIS. Romney and Giuliani needed Dole, or some other White-Hair, to give them some cover to work out their abortion stance. I think they imploded when they made the fatal mistake of working out their abortion views during the campaign.

I understand they needed to make some sort of break with their past, but whatever gambit they picked, they were eternally stuck with. You're for it, agin' it, or you have ONE set of nuances. Not two.

I'm really sorry to say this, but they are, eternally, damaged goods.

568 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:27pm

re: #505 Syrah

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

The military will get a 40 percent cut to pay for social services.

/they wont have to throw down their weapons.

569 6pat6  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:30pm

Hey, Senator McCain - see what "reaching across the fucking aisle" gets?

Fuck the Leftards! Senator, if you really want to help America, FUCK the Jackass party! Who gives a shit what they think of you, or Conservatives!

570 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:45pm

re: #530 SummerSong

I feel like piglet...

/well, if it's any consolation, you are piglet

571 snowcrash  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:50pm

Jimmah, wallowing in your own vomit is a bit much.

572 leftover54  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:42:53pm

Poverty may be the least of our problems. His ego is what scares me. I don't think Bidens prediction was any stroke of genius, we all know our enemies have been licking their lips just a waiting for this day to arrive. Who will be the "Max Beilke" of Baghdad ? Any predictions of his Cabinet picks ? Despite Powell's transgression, I, at this point in time, would feel somewhat comfortable knowing a seasoned Vet. like him at least would have O's ear. What am I saying ? This hasn't even sunk in yet ! Freakin' pinch me ! KICK
ME ! SH*T !
Forget it all...going back to lurking. This just can't be. What worse is kos kidz will be having a ball with posts like this. Lurking...

"Do you remember where you were and what you were doing when you "heard the news" ?

The reason I posted this anyhow is because I KNOW the day is coming when I can throw it all back in some L3's face and say "don't say we didn't try to tell you". Of course, for his first term at least, it will all be W's fault:
"We're stuck cleaning up his mess". The Choir " Yeah, poor O, having to deal with the MESS that Cimpy BushMcHitler left us with,...it will take YEARS". And that excuse will be good for years. DAMN IT TO HELL !
MY COUNTRY ! YOUR COUNTRY ! Why the HELL is Brit chattering away as if "alls right with the world "?

573 sleepyone  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:07pm

re: #552 BigMoo

Yea, racism is officially dead in America. Maybe the world will love us again.
And then again, maybe they won't.
And who the hell cares anyway ?

I don't care about half of America, that's for sure.

574 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:08pm

Wait.. I mis-calculated.

Ohio will definitely be blue...


):

575 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:13pm

re: #553 astronmr20

Wait a minute...


If I'm not reading the WSJ incorrectly, considering the counties that are not reporting in, the state of Ohio may still be in play, by a hair.

Sharmuta and I have been saying that for awhile.
It's tightening up, lot of precincts in red counties still out. Blue counties have a higher reporting level.

576 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:23pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

I repeat: Wheee!

Fuck you, and the pony you rode in on.

577 medaura18586  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:34pm
No Republican could have won in this economic environment and with the Bush legacy on their back. [it will improve over time - the things he put in motion will take another decade to play out, but the American people have never been known for patience.]

I do not believe that though, which is I am even more saddened. This was a blown opportunity. Rudy Giuliani would have likely CREAMED Obama. Even Mitt Romney could have.

There were a bunch of candidates too many in the Republican caucus race last year. WTF was Mike Huckabee doing? He had no chance. Why on Earth did John McCain convince himself that he was the best person in the country fit for the presidency? He doesn't know jack about economics for once, how did he ever think that insinuating himself in the White House was actually in vein with "putting country first"? It was mere power hunger... He is reheated electoral meatloaf from 8 years ago. Internal cannibalization in the race toward the nomination is what ruined Republicans.

This was not a hand to be played by a "moderate", by a "reacher-across-the-aisle", but by someone with a clear compelling ideological alternative to Obama's collectivism and interventionism.

It is the general public's hubris now in flocking to Obama in the demented hope that he will deliver the country from ache (real and imaginary), but it was the Republicans' hubris in ever believing that John McCain was the right man to deliver the white house to them.

Shame shame shame!

578 Scion9  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:51pm

re: #478 Fenway_Nation

I'm trying to wrap my head around the fact that the same people who would've spit on tortured John McCain upon his return to Vietnam while at the Hanoi Hilton could will be at the White House in Januray as VIP guests of the president...

579 Occasional Reader  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:51pm

Okay, gang, I'm out.

I do not entirely discount waking up to a pleasant surprise.

And even if not... chin up, gang, this is still America, we survived Carter, we can survive Barry. The conservative movement may even come out stronger.

NO DEFEATISM. We are better than that.

A hug to all of you, and good night.

580 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:43:57pm

re: #564 ziggyelman

The only thing that might save Israel from Obama, is Obama wanting to be re-elected in 2012. If he turns his back on Israel in a few months, Jews will finally get the message, and will finally wise up and vote for republicans...

I'm not holding my breath.

581 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:02pm

re: #494 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I'm expecting that Israel will observe the election results with some fireworks in the near future.

...launched by the Palestinians. Only they won't be fireworks. :-%P%

582 legalpad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:09pm

re: #422 stonewater

Hey - What did Verizon Wireless do, and which cell phone company didn't?

583 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:10pm

re: #548 Cartman

The people who really piss me off tonight are the so-called "affluent suburbanites" who voted in droves for 0bama. WTF were they thinking? Them and the "it's for the children" soccer moms I saw all over the friggin' place with the 0bama stickers plastered on the bumpers of their minivans. My blood is about to boil.

I am surrounded by those idiots on a day to day basis where I live. I was explaining to my kids today, as I sat behind a BMW with an Obama sticker, how the idiot in front of us was voting for someone who was going to raise her taxes. Also, alot of the nouveau riche around here work in businesses that will be first to take a hit.

You can't buy common sense apparently.

584 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:18pm

...and here we are.

585 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:21pm

re: #551 NYCHardhat

Reminds me of the OJ trial.

Wait till the celebrations start...

586 Florida Lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:26pm

The best part of a bad night? Tim Mahoney (FL-16) is OUT!

587 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:29pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

I repeat: Wheee!

Finally cracked or just enjoying the carnage?

588 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:34pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

What exactly is your point?

589 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:44:51pm

re: #575 jcm

Sharmuta and I have been saying that for awhile.
It's tightening up, lot of precincts in red counties still out. Blue counties have a higher reporting level.

Yes, but if you look at the number of people who voted in those counties and the margin in -04, it looks impossible.

590 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:45:11pm

re: #472 spidly

do we get a senator franken?

So far it's 43% to 41% with Franken in the lead and about 13% of the vote counted. Cross your fingers it changes. That's the same percentage that Obama is ahead of McCain at CBSnews.com.

591 stonewater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:45:21pm

re: #436 ErislDysnomia

I know of at least 5 people cancelling Verizon.

I just tried to find the link to the LA Times advertisers and couldn't remember where I found it. Can someone please re-post that link?

Obamanomics--he can't yet control where or how we spend the money we have left.

592 Bob Dillon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:45:37pm

re: #442 Floral Giraffe

McCain better not F*ing concede AT ALL. Let the whole of the votes be counted. All of them.

That would mean for a while beyond tonight.

Source URL (retrieved on 11/04/2008 - 15:57): [Link: hamptonroads.com...]

McCain campaign sues over overseas military ballots

RICHMOND

John McCain's presidential campaign filed a federal suit Monday against Virginia seeking to extend by 10 days the deadline for the state's acceptance of military members' federal absentee ballots.

Word of the suit emerged Monday afternoon, around the time that a separate election-related injunction request to extend voting hours in today's election was being rejected in federal court.

A national voter rights group, the Advancement Project, and the state NAACP chapter sued the state last week claiming unfair election practices and sought court action to change the distribution of voting machines in Norfolk, Richmond and Virginia Beach, extend polling hours and permit wider use of paper ballots.

Judge Richard Williams did not grant the immediate injunction, though the suit is expected to proceed at a later date. In his ruling, Williams reasoned that last-minute changes to the election format could harm the public in the name of protecting voters potentially disenfranchised by current state election laws.

The McCain suit, meanwhile, seeks an injunction to extend the date by which federal write-in absentee ballots must be received to be counted. The current deadline is today, but the suit seeks to have the date changed to Nov. 14.

593 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:45:42pm

re: #53 ziggyelman

Your nephew died fighting for his country and his principles.
We thank you & him for his service.
He did NOT die in vain.
He is with God now, and welcomed home.

594 The Shadow Do  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:45:43pm

Sometimes this whole democracy thing turns ugly. Still, it's the best we got.

I can only hope that some check and balance can be had with a less than 60 vote Dem Senate. If not, it's Katy bar the door!

Where does the Republican party go from here? If they are shut out with a Dem super majority then I would look for some pretty nasty reactions, not unlike the deranged Lib insanity of the last few years.

Otherwise there is hope that lessons will be learned and a collective wisdom will prevail. Maybe, just maybe the truncated central government message can be successfully paired with a message of tolerance and individual liberty.

595 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:45:56pm

re: #478 Fenway_Nation

I'm trying to wrap my head around the fact that the same people whowould've spit on John McCain upon his return to Vietnam could be at theWhite House in Januray as VIP guests of the president...

They will say, "Hey, it hasn't changed much since I was here 8 years ago!"

596 6pat6  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:46:02pm

I'm going to use the same "meme" (I hate that word!) that the Leftards use about our current President if worse comes to worse and BHO is our next POTUS:

OBAMA IS NOT MY PRESIDENT!

Screw it. It worked for those asshats, now it is my turn to turn a phrase!

597 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:46:11pm

Obama is up by about 140,000 votes in OH, too many to make up with the few counties left over.

598 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:46:54pm

re: #576 Cartman

Fuck you, and the pony you rode in on.


Thanks, it's been a while.
/Pony says thanks too

599 Randall Gross  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:04pm

Al Gore as sect'y of the interior or energy tzar, or head of EPA

600 legalpad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:10pm

re: #503 Thanos

No Republican could have won in this economic environment and with the Bush legacy on their back.

I think you've got it here. Your whole post.

601 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:24pm
While the people retain their virtue and vigilance no Administration by any extreme of wickedness or folly can very seriously injure the Government in the short space of four years.
--Abraham Lincoln, first Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861
602 slokat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:25pm

re: #336 Alouette

Big ugly guys in black berets, jackboots, NBPP armbands, carrying billyclubs, coming soon to your front door.

Like these guys?

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

603 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:29pm

re: #596 6pat6

I'm going to use the same "meme" (I hate that word!) that the Leftards use about our current President if worse comes to worse and BHO is our next POTUS:

OBAMA IS NOT MY PRESIDENT!

Screw it. It worked for those asshats, now it is my turn to turn a phrase!

I'm going to copyright and sell snarky bumperstickers that say:

1.20.13

604 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:39pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

I repeat: Wheee!

Step off!

605 Boxy_brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:46pm

re: #461 Jetpilot1101

"RINO's alienate and piss off the real conservatives.


So even though Guliani would have been a better choice he "alienated and pissed off real conservatives". Even though Romney was the only one who could balance his own checkbook he was a "heathen" so not a "real conservative".
Look at where this has gotten us. Reagan ran on the "big tent", which is the coalition we need to recreate in order to win. Booting people out of it because they don't toe YOUR line is just going to lead us right back here.

"If people with real spines would stand up, we'd win elections."


Run for office.

Unfortunately, no one wants to vote for spineless asshats.


What I am saying is that we need people to vote for the republicans in order for the republicans to get elected. Tossing people out of the tree house because someone called them a "RINO" is going to leave us in the mess we are in.

"I think that America will be sick of marxists in 2 years and we'll be back in power but with a Reagan ideology."


Most of the seats coming up in the next cycle are republican.

"When democrats start losing their jobs, buyers remorse will set in.


We need to help obama to look as bad as possible over the next 4 years. We need to thoroughly discredit him in every way possible...

606 fish  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:52pm

Stock tip for what to buy in next four years:

Invest heavily in Liquor. Sales will be much higher in much of the country.

607 solomonpanting  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:47:56pm

Obama is sworn in in January. Shouldn't be too long after that before the international testing begins. Probably the only time Biden's ever been right.

608 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:48:09pm

Where can I buy an "Impeach 0bama" bumper sticker?


That no-talent ass clown deserves every chance the Democrats gave George W Bush.

609 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:48:23pm

re: #588 HelloDare

What exactly is your point?


Zen strawberry.
/link upthread.

610 Beller0ph1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:48:35pm

Goodnight Lizards! I pray (there I go, clinging to Religion) that the exit polls are wrong, and all the votes are counted. See you on the flipside.

(Glass half-full).

611 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:48:53pm

Anyone know where I can get a "Don't blame me, I voted for McCain' bumper sticker? I want to get started early.

612 strikefo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:48:57pm

the only good thing to come from this horrible news is that for the next four years, we will have unequivocal proof of where the blame comes for all the future failed policies-Democrats.

613 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:49:11pm

re: #501 Arby Dwiar

probably many like us.
and many more who won't even be inspired to start up a business.
or do anything innovative to create wealth.
his little experiment is going to fail

614 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:49:16pm

Franken's lead just shrank to 2,000 votes, which puts them even, while Obama's ahead 56% to 43%.

615 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:49:19pm

re: #591 stonewater

I know of at least 5 people cancelling Verizon.

I just tried to find the link to the LA Times advertisers and couldn't remember where I found it. Can someone please re-post that link?

Obamanomics--he can't yet control where or how we spend the money we have left.

For too long conservatives have not used the power that resides in their wallets.

616 Perplexed  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:49:23pm

Start investigations into:

Campaign financing
Acorn
Soros
Voter fraud

Hammer them without mercy.

617 legalpad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:49:36pm

re: #504 Palmetto Patriot

He lied his head off to the nation. I don't think he'll hesitate to ignore the wishes of the people who elected him.

618 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:49:39pm

So now, the countdown until we are "tested."


I shudder...

619 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:49:57pm

re: #505 Syrah

Who will Obama see as "The Enemy"?

Me.

620 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:17pm

re: #613 nyc redneck

probably many like us.
and many more who won't even be inspired to start up a business.
or do anything innovative to create wealth.
his little experiment is going to fail

Two words: "Cash Business"

621 Opinionated  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:26pm

re: #567 PSGInfinity

THIS. Romney and Giuliani needed Dole, or some other White-Hair, to give them some cover to work out their abortion stance. I think they imploded when they made the fatal mistake of working out their abortion views during the campaign.

I understand they needed to make some sort of break with their past, but whatever gambit they picked, they were eternally stuck with. You're for it, agin' it, or you have ONE set of nuances. Not two.

I'm really sorry to say this, but they are, eternally, damaged goods.

Abortion is an issue that eliminates the best people on our side- but as this election proves- is a non issue in the General.

I would bet that tonight even some Social Conservatives would get on their knees and pray that this is all a bad dream and that the President elect is really "baby killer" (as they called) Giuliani.

If not, if they prefer Obama and what he will do- they are a lost cause.

622 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:32pm

Things to look forward to:

-The spectacle of Michelle Obama trying to lord it over Washington society and getting completely shunned.
-One year from now when people realize they didn't get their free stuff.
-Lots of indictments
-Looking at complaining liberals and saying, "Well, it's you guys in charge."
-Watching all the cowards in Congress realize they can't go along with all his policies or they will be voted out of office. They will never want to be responsible for major changes.

623 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:35pm

re: #434 stevieray

O please spare us... can you really be that stupid? As if the U.S. of KKK has suddenly expiated "its original sin." Fact chance...Good Grief. You don't even begin to realize what "da vorlt" thinks about americKKKa do you? Here's a Head's Up -- they Move the Goal Posts. (sorry, I'm out of patience with those who want to find a "silver lining" -- believe me, there is none. Time to Wake the F8K up.)

624 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:38pm

Howdy Lizards

Turned off the TV and came here.

I think I will start monitoring the legislative schedule real closely.

Here is the House of Representatives web site.

And
here
is the one for the Senate.

Pay particular attention to the schedules and committee hearings. This is where the next battle starts.

Observe, Orient, Decide and Act

625 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:41pm

re: #607 solomonpanting

Obama is sworn in in January. Shouldn't be too long after that before the international testing begins. Probably the only time Biden's ever been right.

No, Biden predicted a terrorist attack on our soil in a speech he gave at Wilmington Rotary around 1997.

626 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:42pm

re: #267 mama winger

Tomorrow I am going to the gun store.

If it's a legal option in your state, go to the gun show. Pay cash. No paper trail.

/Strictly an informational post, all my guns have been raptured.

627 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:46pm

I'm thinking about Biden's 6-months till our enemy's test President Government. The clock starts now - Sometime in March maybe.

628 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:50:54pm

re: #601 Dar ul Harb

Of course, shortly after that came the Civil War...

629 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:51:05pm

re: #540 ArmyWife

...

I don't advocate fighting dirty, but I certainly advocate using their tactics against them, which means we get out on the street and we call thugs thugs. We call communists communists not the last week of the campaign, the whole damn thing. The press wants to be stupid? Call them on it. Loudly. Fact check (real fact checks) every hour on the hour.

...

Love it! We need to start infiltrating the media, academia, and continue infiltrating entertainment. We need to pull our kids out of public schools and teach them properly - including counter-indoctrination. They'll then out-compete the lefty kidz...

630 logboy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:51:09pm

You have to admit a sense of irony when Ohio and Penn lose thousands of jobs because the 0 kills the coal industry. Nothing like shooting ones self in the foot. I will have no sympathy.

631 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:51:14pm

re: #609 Killgore Trout

Zen strawberry.
/link upthread.

>

632 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:51:23pm

re: #540 ArmyWife

Which is what is wrong with my part. Washington doesn't understand what WE want, and it wasn't McCain. If he gets in by some miracle, I will support him as he is by far better than the Socialist Party candidate.

Let this be a wake up call, RNC. The Country is NOT middle left, and above the fray isn't always understood on the street. I don't advocate fighting dirty, but I certainly advocate using their tactics against them, which means we get out on the street and we call thugs thugs. We call communists communists not the last week of the campaign, the whole damn thing. The press wants to be stupid? Call them on it. Loudly. Fact check (real fact checks) every hour on the hour. This can be done when you reach out to your base rather than telling your base how they SHOULD think. You deserted us and now we desert you. We begin rebuilding tomorrow - the way is should have been done.

Georgia was one of those stupid states with open primaries. I think that's what allowed McCain to be foisted upon us. I liked Rudy first, then I finally settled on Romney, who I still think would be a great president. I truly love McCain in a lot of ways, for his service and his spirit, but he was the wrong man for the times, and we got stuck with him because some higher-ups decided only a centrist could win. And that might have worked if he'd run an intelligent campaign. I'm not quite giving up -- I think a lot of these calls are bullshit -- but man, we need to clean house.

633 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:51:29pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

I repeat: Wheee!

Piece of shit.

634 bagua  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:51:29pm

According to CNN Obama is ahead in Ohio by 150 thousand votes, less than what I estimate to be the fraudulent Acorn votes.

If this Obama win comes true, it will be the result of fraud, illegal foreign financing, and a complicit leftist media.

This is not a lost election, it is a stolen election.

635 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:51:44pm

Is there anything the public can do to photon-torpedo any bad choice of new SCOTUS nominee Obama might make? Or can that only be done by people with a seat in the House or Senate?

636 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:52:05pm

You know, if I were W I would REALLY be worried about being dragged into court on war crimes charges...

Rush predicted it long ago.

637 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:52:11pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

I repeat: Wheee!

Killgore ... I realize that I am kinda new to this blog ... but you never answered my question ... by not voting ... as you said ... how would you want this country to go now? ...I totally respect that you have been here way longer than I have but what do you want ... what do you want to happen now? do you feel like you have won in some way ...

638 Bbungle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:52:46pm

re: #597 astronmr20

sec of state has him up by about 12,000?
[Link: vote.sos.state.oh.us...]

639 Elcid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:52:46pm

re: #309 realwest

Excellent, realwest.

640 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:01pm

OK, Folks, REALITY CHECK!
*Whack*
"13 percent of the vote in"
is potentially MEANINGLESS!
Maybe yes, maybne no!
Wait for it to be counted.
Me, I'm PRAYING for a nice suprise...

641 DistantThunder  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:06pm

re: #396 Charles

McCain got the nomination, not because he was a "maverick," but because he was a Washington good old boy, with lots of Washington good old boy friends.

Do you think those insiders got Huckabee to run to sheer off support from Romney? We could sure use a financial genius like romney right now. I still remember Huckabee contemptuous remarks about Romeny saying that he was more like the guy that laid you off than the guy that hired you.

And Romney actually created 10's of thousands of jobs. Huckabee was another big spending Republican.

642 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:07pm

re: #520 stonewater

I think if we all cut our discretionary spendingby 10%, and those nasty mean small business owners have to cutexpenses, then those glossy eyed Obamites can experience his solutionfor the economy firsthand.

My husband is a foreclosure attorney.If The One puts a hold on all foreclosures for 90 days as he promised,then those who voted for Obama will be the first to be laid off. Therewill be tons of judges,magistrates and court clerks with a paid 90 dayvacation.

My wife is thinking the same way. I'm trying to avoid that sentiment, but on the other hand, for example, I usually tip 20-25% for good service...sometimes 30% for someone who is friendly and really good. But that's because I feel fortunate and SECURE, and I want to share that. Maybe now, not so much.

We also have house cleaners over every two weeks. But our budget is actually very tight (socking away for college, retirement, etc.) It won't take much of a tax hike at all to make us start cutting that stuff. Hmmm...wonder who those people voted for?

643 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:10pm

re: #616 Perplexed

Start investigations into:

Campaign financing
Acorn
Soros
Voter fraud

Hammer them without mercy.

Not gonna happen.

644 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:30pm

re: #635 NomadOfNorad

Dude, the Constitution's screwed...

645 avspatti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:34pm

re: #109 bellamags

Is this some weird dream? I can't believe this is happening. Al FRANKEN is ahead in MN? WTF is wrong with everyone?

They have been educated in government schools.

646 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:40pm

re: #616 Perplexed

Start investigations into:

Campaign financing
Acorn
Soros
Voter fraud

Hammer them without mercy.

Who will do the investigating?

647 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:41pm

The Richmond Times Dispatch is calling VA for Obama.

648 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:53:57pm

So has it been confirmed yet that we now have a Supreme Bolshevik? The Hi-Po Benadryl can't kick in soon enough for me.

649 BigMoo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:03pm

re: #573 sleepyone

I don't care about half of America, that's for sure.

A-frikin-men !

650 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:10pm

re: #611 apb1

Anyone know where I can get a "Don't blame me, I voted for McCain' bumper sticker? I want to get started early.

Just Google custom bumper stickers and you'll find an assortment of places to order as many as you want. ;-)

651 Junior  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:11pm

re: #616 Perplexed

Start investigations into:

Campaign financing
Acorn
Soros
Voter fraud

Hammer them without mercy.

This would require a Republican party with balls. No such thing exists right now. They are all bend be over and bang me in the butt pussies...

652 sadhu  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:19pm

oy vey i say

653 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:21pm

re: #640 Floral Giraffe

OK, Folks, REALITY CHECK!
*Whack*
"13 percent of the vote in"
is potentially MEANINGLESS!
Maybe yes, maybne no!
Wait for it to be counted.
Me, I'm PRAYING for a nice suprise...

Prayers are all you have left at this point.

654 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:27pm

re: #636 ErislDysnomia

All military personnel -- they'll be "investigated".

655 Almostout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:44pm
He lied his head off to the nation. I don't think he'll hesitate to ignore the wishes of the people who elected him.

If he does, the american chose to be lied to.

Every country has the government it deseves!

656 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:45pm

re: #375 Charles

Who could have done a better job than McCain?

Giuliani could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was persona non grata because he wouldn't toe the social conservative line.

Romney could have, but the Republican leadership decided he was a Mormon, and couldn't be trusted.

This, my friends, is known as "cutting one's own throat."


this defeat isn't simply due to Republicans chosing the wrong guy, it goes much deeper than that. don't think for one minute that Romney, if selected by the Republicans was not going to be hammered about being a Mormon by Dem's and the MSM. Rudy would have simply been shellacked. Romney might have done slightly better, but the deck was stacked against Republicans this time.

657 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:46pm

re: #601 Dar ul Harb

While the people retain their virtue and vigilance no Administration by any extreme of wickedness or folly can very seriously injure the Government in the short space of four years.
--Abraham Lincoln, first Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861

Yeah, but that was before the SCOTUS showed just how wrong THEY could get. And they're appointed for life.

658 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:54:46pm

re: #621 Opinionated

Abortion is an issue that eliminates the best people on our side- but as this election proves- is a non issue in the General. I would bet that tonight even some Social Conservatives would get on their knees and pray that this is all a bad dream and that the President elect is really "baby killer" (as they called) Giuliani. If not, if they prefer Obama and what he will do- they are a lost cause.

I tend to agree with you, but I've also heard social conservatives described as anti-abortion liberals. Not sure I agree with that, but if there's something to it...

659 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:55:03pm

re: #543 bellamags

I can't believe this.

i can't either. we have now reached a point where intelligence skill, talent and ability mean nothing. look at al frankin. LOL.
it is just money, hype, and making promises to gullible to fools that gets you in.

and at a time like this when we are facing such dangers and challenges.
running for potus has become a t.v. game show. w/ lousy contestants.
it makes me sick.

660 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:55:13pm

re: #650 Griffon

Thanks, Griff - only a little tongue-in-cheek!

661 RedPepper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:55:19pm

Night of the Living O-bots.

662 unclassifiable  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:55:52pm

re: #448 buzzsawmonkey

That's how I used to keep from getting a hangover.

663 Wookieelips  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:55:53pm

...

What's going to happen to my husband in Iraq?

I'm really worried about him now, what if they pulll their funding for the war? Apparently no one cares/realizes that cutting off the money to stop a war gets our people KILLED.
Tonight, I'm ashamed of my country for the first time in my adult life.

664 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:55:53pm

re: #616 Perplexed

Start investigations into:

Campaign financing
Acorn
Soros
Voter fraud

Hammer them without mercy.

It's a little tough to that when the demonrats control the house and senate, unless you mean an LGF investigation.

665 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:01pm

re: #637 JacksonTn

Killgore ... I realize that I am kinda new to this blog ... but you never answered my question ... by not voting ... as you said ... how would you want this country to go now? ...I totally respect that you have been here way longer than I have but what do you want ... what do you want to happen now? do you feel like you have won in some way ...

Yes, using the one true logic. . .by not deciding, the decision was made without any responsibility or effort.

Now, of course, this prick is taking up the smarm practice, taking credit for the "win" and salting wounds liberally. . .literally

666 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:06pm

I trust that the unwieldy, slow, inefficient government created by the Framers of our Constitution will thwart even this would-be radical's attempt to make it work.

667 stonewater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:14pm

re: #582 legalpad

I have not yet cancelled them because there is a disconnection fee in my contract which expires in a couple months. They were the only wireless provider on the list so not sure where I will go. I have been with Verizon for over 10 years and they will certainly know why I am leaving. Hopefully, someone can find and post the link to the LA times advertisers. Like I said, we can all start talking with our hard earned $$$ beginning tomorrow morning.

668 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:17pm

re: #640 Floral Giraffe

OK, Folks, REALITY CHECK!
*Whack*
"13 percent of the vote in"
is potentially MEANINGLESS!
Maybe yes, maybne no!
Wait for it to be counted.
Me, I'm PRAYING for a nice suprise...

that's why I asked, when in 2004 did we know Bush won, with REAL data?

669 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:19pm

I wonder how the stock market will react tomorrow.

670 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:22pm

test

671 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:24pm

Great, the Minnesota Secretary of State website has no trace of results for the Coleman Franken race.

WTF?

672 zenren  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:25pm

I'm stunned, devestated, and exhausted.

However, I will rest tomorrow and then I plan to fight on. I am going to see if I can work inside the Republican Party to improve things. I don't know how much of an impact I can have but I will try. I just can't give up on this country. We are the last bastion of freedom. We can't just let this go.

So rest for now and do whatever you need to get it out of your systems. The next few years will be rough - maybe even really bad. But we will prevail.

673 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:43pm

re: #577 medaura18586

I do not believe that though, which is I am even more saddened. This was a blown opportunity. Rudy Giuliani would have likely CREAMED Obama. Even Mitt Romney could have.


You STILL can't see it can you?

You'd STILL be lumbered with a 'pretend conservative'!

Stuck on stupid perhaps?

674 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:56:44pm

posting is almost impossible. just complaining don't mind me.

675 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:02pm

re: #609 Killgore Trout

Zen strawberry.
/link upthread.

So your point is that we are about to be eaten by a tiger. We will all be dead in the next few moments. It is inevitable. We should make the best of it and enjoy the next few seconds of our life and meld with the sweetness of the universe.

676 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:04pm

re: #644 apb1

Dude, the Constitution's screwed...

Yah think?!?!?!? :-( :-( :-(

677 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:23pm

When do I need to hand my guns over to Obama's civilian security force?

678 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:34pm

re: #616 Perplexed

Again, are you really that stupid? or are you just trying it on for "an effect?"

679 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:37pm

re: #667 stonewater

Like I said, we can all start talking with our hard earned $$$ beginning tomorrow morning.

But we need to start a movement to encourage others to do it as well.

Many, many other conservatives highly disturbed by the MSM - which should be nearly ALL OF THEM.

Million and millions, as Carl Sagan said.

680 lummox  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:40pm

If my assholes, assholes, asshole had an asshole, it would be Killgore Carp.

681 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:41pm
682 Pepper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:46pm

What a depressing group of comments to read.

First, it ain't over till the vote count is tallied.
Second, this country is resilient in any event.
Third, let's see what happens.
Fourth, buck up margins are still close.
Fifth and finally, the game continues.

The overreaching is inevitable and an implosion will result.

Protect your capital and watch personal debt ratios.
Determine new methods of communication and disseminating information.
Identify with predetermined criteria market segments which are adversarial, and divest.
Invest or grow interest in common organization with PAC power.
Take down opponents with a vengeance. They are within and without.

Remember all politics are local and everyday.

Stop being gloom and doom, or you serve no purpose!

683 BigMoo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:48pm

So...can I now have my free health care, free college education and government check ?
Can I ?
Please ?
Oh, the humanity.
The horror...

684 DistantThunder  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:52pm

re: #463 spidly

turn off the cable. you can rent your favourite show on dvd.

weee!

anyone got a business friendly red state to suggest for a guy to move to?

We cancelled our cable last week. It is shocking to see all the sexual content on MTV. It's disturbing to hear the nasty vile remarks coming from children's cartoons - cruel stuff. It is disheartening to see show after show filled with dysfunctional, sexually careless and frivolous vapid women - like Sex and the City.

My favorite channel is the History Channel and sometimes Discovery Channel when it isn't pushing global warming.

685 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:57:59pm

Time to open that layaway account . . . at the local 99 cent stores.

686 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:58:02pm

re: #656 alien_mind

As if we haven't figured out - the deck's stacked against the Repubs ALL the time. We have a whole double-generation of post-Watergate, Rupub-hatin' liberal douchebags in charge of most of the media.

Kind of a perfect Bureau of Dis-information to run interference for the Obomber...

687 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:58:07pm

Current EC count
Obama 220 McCain 135.

Flip OH's 27 (still slim chance)
O 193 M 162

CA, OR, WA are a given to O 73 ECV.
O 266

HI is puts to O 270.

Not gonna' happen.

Let's get used to it.
President Barack Hussein Obama.

688 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:58:08pm

re: #663 Wookieelips

...

What's going to happen to my husband in Iraq?

I'm really worried about him now, what if they pulll their funding for the war? Apparently no one cares/realizes that cutting off the money to stop a war gets our people KILLED.
Tonight, I'm ashamed of my country for the first time in my adult life.

My sons too. . .and Sarah's son. . .

689 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:58:18pm

I keep thinking about that woman from youtube that went to an Obama rally and was saying how if Obama is elected she won't have to worry about paying for her gas, paying her mortgage etc. It is going to be a day of reckoning for her and others when those promises do not come to fruition. Maybe that is why this happened - maybe this will be a lesson for a lot of people. Obama has written checks his ass can't cash and the American people will be lining up at the bank with worthless paper.

690 Athos  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:58:29pm

re: #653 Charles

Prayers are all you have left at this point.

Yep - because even if the margin was 1 electoral vote and 1 vote in the national vote count, the hard left will consider they have a complete mandate to implement their agenda...and they will stomp / silence any and all opposition.

BTW - 2 minutes to polls close in CA, and 2 minutes 10 seconds to Barack Hubris Obama becoming President elect.

691 livefreeor die  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:59:27pm

I'm going to go to bed-I don't want to put any more stress on the baby-to-be. I'll pray for something miraculous to happen and then I will wake up and put my work ethic and American ingenuity into fighting the liberal agenda anyway I can.

I will boycott companies that advertise in the MSM.

I will cut out any discretionary service providers I have who supported Obama.

I will still donate to charities of my own choosing (i.e., ones that encourage personal responsibility) but I will cut back on our family income so my taxes aren't providing charity to people who just don't want to work.

I will not vote for any Republican who covers their own political a-- instead of doing what is right.

Help me out-I can use other suggestions.

692 solomonpanting  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:59:27pm

re: #625 ErislDysnomia

No, Biden predicted a terrorist attack on our soil in a speech he gave at Wilmington Rotary around 1997.

And that was what, two years after Oklahoma City?

693 ClosetConservative  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:59:29pm

Folks:

I said this in the chat, but I want to say it again. Look. I want to urge reason in the coming four years. Yes, we had to put up with 8 years of Bush Derangement Syndrome. But McCain's campaign slogan was "Country First". We need to stick to that. Yes, Obama is a raving liberal. But on the off chance that something good comes out of this Obama administration, don't attack it just because it came out of an Obama administration. Those are Democrat tactics. I guarantee that if we keep level heads and run a respectful opposition campaign, we can nail the buggers to a wall in 2010. God bless America!

-ClosetConservative

694 baxtrice  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 7:59:57pm

The specter of Carter's malaise is upon us.

695 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:00:08pm

If I was Obama, just for fun, and to f*ck with evil conservatives:

- Rev Wright gives the invocation at the inauguration
- Barney Frank: Secretary of Defense
- Bill Ayers: Secretary of Education
- Hillary Clinton: Supreme Court Justice
- Cindy Sheehan: UN Ambassador
- Joe Wilson: Director of National Intelligence

696 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:00:32pm

re: #655 Almostout

If he does, the american chose to be lied to.

Every country has the government it deseves!

Very true.

Welcome to my nightmare.

I've been suffering at the hands of a socialist for the past 9 years.

It doesn't get any easier folks!


SPIT!

697 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:00:52pm

re: #616 Perplexed

Start investigations into:

Campaign financing
Acorn
Soros
Voter fraud

Hammer them without mercy.

And then what? Even if there's anything beyond circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing and even if they face some sort of punishment, expect a pardon from an 0bama white house.

698 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:13pm

re: #687 jcm

Current EC count
Obama 220 McCain 135.

Flip OH's 27 (still slim chance)
O 193 M 162

CA, OR, WA are a given to O 73 ECV.
O 266

HI is puts to O 270.

Not gonna' happen.

Let's get used to it.
President Barack Hussein Obama.

Only in Amerika. . .sad but true. . .

699 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:16pm

re: #640 Floral Giraffe

OK, Folks, REALITY CHECK!
*Whack*
"13 percent of the vote in"
is potentially MEANINGLESS!
Maybe yes, maybne no!
Wait for it to be counted.
Me, I'm PRAYING for a nice suprise...

700 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:29pm

re: #682 Pepper

What a depressing group of comments to read.

First, it ain't over till the vote count is tallied.
Second, this country is resilient in any event.
Third, let's see what happens.
Fourth, buck up margins are still close.
Fifth and finally, the game continues.

The overreaching is inevitable and an implosion will result.

Protect your capital and watch personal debt ratios.
Determine new methods of communication and disseminating information.
Identify with predetermined criteria market segments which are adversarial, and divest.
Invest or grow interest in common organization with PAC power.
Take down opponents with a vengeance. They are within and without.

Goddamn it! We have hundreds of thousands of blog readers, all with printers.

Each person prints and distributes ten or twenty pamphlets per day. Do the math.

701 Outrider  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:29pm

Looks like them Pumas ran a deception operation on us eh?

702 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:30pm

re: #663 Wookieelips

Don't know if I'd worry a lick on that - stutterin' O's controllers and the rest of the Dhims will spin the Iraq war as a victory BY the Dhims. Why do you think it's been completely off the pages? The US has won that going away...

Now's the time to bask in the Dhim's victory in Iraq! Just wait to see the media frauds jump on that...

703 KingKenrod  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:49pm

re: #635 NomadOfNorad

Is there anything the public can do to photon-torpedo any bad choice of new SCOTUS nominee Obama might make? Or can that only be done by people with a seat in the House or Senate?

The GOP could choose to filibuster, but the Dems just have to change the rules to prevent it (the GOP never had the guts to do this). However, since none of the conservatives on the court (or Kennedy) are planning to retire (that I know of), the balance will remain the same.

704 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:03pm

Gee, what are the chances Lord Numbnuts takes California? Bring on McCain.

/grab your hand baskets, we're going for a joy ride

705 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:21pm

Orson Scott Card had a novel, or series of novels, describing a near future outright civil war in the USA between the Left and the Right... one which turns into a full-on shooting war.

I hoped he was wrong about that, but it could, quite literally, come to such a thing. Sooner rather than later. Very, very scary thought.

706 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:22pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

I repeat: Wheee!

I guess someone will have to do it.

You were correct in your prediction, Killgore. It appears America has chosen someone who is not in our best interests as our next president.

Now does that make you feel justified in gloating, while so many here have expressed, in some instances, deep sadness and have even wept because of it?

Does that make you feel superior, sir?

I hope not. I'd like to hope you're a better man than that.

I, personally, am going to mourn for the night and then get up tomorrow with a determined optimism.

But I will always be pleased with the work I did in this election, no matter how it turned out.

And I will try to give encouragement and comfort to those who are depressed and sad.

707 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:35pm

test

708 Ozymandias  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:35pm

since we're doing predictions, here's mine, and i hate it, but my gut feels it.

When he started telling people that he was going to make sure that they were going to have as good a health insurance plan as he had, it was easy to believe him. We all know that it won’t work, but still, the way he talks, it makes you want to believe him. Romney was the best opponent for this particularly smooth operator, but you remember how savagely he was attacked by all the other Republican candidates. I love and respect john mccain, but he was just no match for this operator, and then when the financial crisis hit, well, that was it. Then it became a throw the bums out tidal wave. I’m surprised the vote is as close as it is, and the only reason it’s not is because at least 48% of the people just couldn’t believe that we were going to elect a person that has never held a real job, never really done anything other than be a “community organizer” which sounds like a communist, or at least socialist, idealogue to me.

The dark side to this is Israel will turn their back on our president, and then there goes our very best intelligence on bin laden and the like. There will be incidents. The military will be divided. Obama will very likely turn to drugs or alcohol, if he has not already, and the country will be leaderless. Israel will survive because they collectively have the most dedicated and gifted intelligence personnel in the world, but the united states will be divided. Blood will spill. And guess who will rise to lead America to fight out of the trench? You guessed it, the modern day Joan of Arc will arise, Sarah Palin. But will it be too late?

yes, i know this sounds apocalyptic. sorry.

709 Bobblehead  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:44pm

I feel something happened to our national psyche on 9/11. It's been almost 8 years since that horrible day and it seems as though we are eating ourselves alive. I picture the U.S populace curled up in a fetal position hoping for an easy way out of life's hardships.

710 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:46pm

re: #576 Cartman

Fuck you, and the pony you rode in on.

I Couldn't have said it any better. Figure I'd hold off a while longer, being a 3.5 week or so old hatchling, I did not feel I had enough 'gravitas'.

OMFG, did I just say GRAVITAS?

Dang, that's twice now in the same post. Enough to last a couple of life times for me.

711 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:53pm

re: #624 unclassifiable

Howdy Lizards

Turned off the TV and came here.

I think I will start monitoring the legislative schedule real closely.

Here is the House of Representatives web site.

And
here
is the one for the Senate.

Pay particular attention to the schedules and committee hearings. This is where the next battle starts.

Observe, Orient, Decide and Act

My next step is to snail mail actual paper letters to congresscritters who aren't mine (because my guy is a terrific conservative Republican). An email can be deleted before it's fully read. A paper letter has to be opened.

712 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:03pm

re: #675 HelloDare

So your point is that we are about to be eaten by a tiger. We will all be dead in the next few moments. It is inevitable. We should make the best of it and enjoy the next few seconds of our life and meld with the sweetness of the universe.

No, it's about a silver lining.

713 DistantThunder  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:26pm

re: #677 pablito

When do I need to hand my guns over to Obama's civilian security force?

That's the one thing we learned by watching the citizen hostages in communist countries, once they turned over their guns, they were doomed.

We have the internet, and we have out gun safes.

714 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:38pm

re: #692 solomonpanting

And that was what, two years after Oklahoma City?

I meant he predicted a middle eastern terrorist a attack.

715 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:39pm

My God, Fox Calls Obama President elect.

716 outsidephilly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:43pm

re: #653 Charles

Prayers are all you have left at this point.

That's what's its all about for me . . . , usually, when I'm at the end of my rope that's when I finally look to God - desperate times cause me to pray desperate prayers!

717 EA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:50pm

All it takes for America to fail is that 51% realize that they can take from the other 49% whatever they want.

We may have reached that point tonight.

718 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:50pm

re: #702 apb1

..O's controllers and the rest of the Dhims will spin the Iraq war as a victory BY the Dhims. Why do you think it's been completely off the pages? The US has won that going away...

Now's the time to bask in the Dhim's victory in Iraq! Just wait to see the media frauds jump on that...

and that will have to be okay. Better then a pullout/abandonment.

719 DisturbedEma  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:33pm

re: #691 livefreeor die

I'm going to go to bed-I don't want to put any more stress on the baby-to-be. I'll pray for something miraculous to happen and then I will wake up and put my work ethic and American ingenuity into fighting the liberal agenda anyway I can.

I will boycott companies that advertise in the MSM.

I will cut out any discretionary service providers I have who supported Obama.

I will still donate to charities of my own choosing (i.e., ones that encourage personal responsibility) but I will cut back on our family income so my taxes aren't providing charity to people who just don't want to work.

I will not vote for any Republican who covers their own political a-- instead of doing what is right.

Help me out-I can use other suggestions.

Take care of you and kinder. . .rest. . .and add to your list;

I will stop downplaying or ignoring the teachings of my OWN RELIGION and stop discounting the teachings in order to make my choice as a voter.


I will not allow the slime and much of personal attacks to continue in my presence, I will not be silenced.

I will teach my children all that I can about being respectful human beings. . .

720 Archimedes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:41pm

re: #545 Captkirk35

Silver lining time..

It's time to set priorities and re-brand.

Priority 1: Get the budget under control and kill the debt

Priority 2: Fight for a strong, aggressive military

Priority 3: Start taking the culture back

The big thing is to cut back the size and scope of government, which means uphold individual rights. The government is way too intrusive and massive. And, let's face it, Bush did a lot of that himself, which is why many republicans weren't fond of him. Bush made no effort to roll back the size of government.

Btw, I also remember him being timid military. Remember the American military plane that was brought down by the Chinese prior to 911? I remember Bush being very timid in response to that. He was better on 911, but he didn't follow through with going after terrorist states such as Iran and Syria.

721 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:50pm

re: #668 ErislDysnomia

that's why I asked, when in 2004 did we know Bush won, with REAL data?

Not until several weeks after the election.

722 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:50pm

re: #641 DistantThunder

Do you think those insiders got Huckabee to run to sheer off support from Romney? We could sure use a financial genius like romney right now. I still remember Huckabee contemptuous remarks about Romeny saying that he was more like the guy that laid you off than the guy that hired you.

And Romney actually created 10's of thousands of jobs. Huckabee was another big spending Republican.

No, but I think Huckabee had a secret pact with McCain to bump off Mitt. I also think a number of bigoted evangelicals couldn't get past Mitt being a Mormon and thought they were voting for pastor in chief. One of the many reasons why, although I'm a Christian, I will probably never set foot in a church again.

723 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:05:08pm
724 Bobblehead  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:05:53pm

re: #669 neocon hippie

I wonder how the stock market will react tomorrow.

I read in the WSJ the market has already factored in an Obama victory.

725 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:05:58pm

re: #703 KingKenrod

The GOP could choose to filibuster, but the Dems just have to change the rules to prevent it (the GOP never had the guts to do this). However, since none of the conservatives on the court (or Kennedy) are planning to retire (that I know of), the balance will remain the same.


(Emphasis mine.)

Well, that's good at least. But that assumes one of them doesn't die, or doesn't have something happen to him or his family that makes him want to retire, or doesn't get kidnapped by space-aliens and never seen again, or something.

726 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:23pm

re: #691 livefreeor die

I'm going to go to bed-I don't want to put any more stress on the baby-to-be. I'll pray for something miraculous to happen and then I will wake up and put my work ethic and American ingenuity into fighting the liberal agenda anyway I can.

I will boycott companies that advertise in the MSM.

I will cut out any discretionary service providers I have who supported Obama.

I will still donate to charities of my own choosing (i.e., ones that encourage personal responsibility) but I will cut back on our family income so my taxes aren't providing charity to people who just don't want to work.

I will not vote for any Republican who covers their own political a-- instead of doing what is right.

Help me out-I can use other suggestions.

I don't have much to add ... excep I love your nic ... and I will fight the fight ...my father a Navy SEAL did not fight for this ...I will never surrender ... we may have lost the battle but we have not lost the war ...We must regroup and fight against a man who finds his friends among the Ayers and Dohrns ...

727 Ashtaroot  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:29pm

re: #79 Charles

I guess they wanted the Obamessiah! I can't wait to see him lower the sea levels, end global warming, heal the sick, end poverty and bring peace to the world!

Now, my predictions: Syria will invade Lebanon, Iran will go nuclear and there is no telling what they will do. The Gulfies will react by getting their own nukes. The Russians and the Chinese will test us. The military will be downsized by at least 25%, taxes will bleed hard working Americans, and oh yes, 9/11 will seem like a joke for what is to come. We will survive, but it will be a painful recovery.

728 logboy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:43pm

re: #705 NomadOfNorad

I'm a good shot. I'm not scared.

729 johngaltlives  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:12pm

I weep for my country. We will survive but the cost in liberty, dollars and lives will be high.

Tonight we rest and then tomorrow we start again.

Thanks to my fellow Lizards for providing solice and amusement. It will take all of us united to win this country back.

I ask each of you and Charles to help keep us focused on the goal of retaking our nation. All mobys and trolls should be booted without pause. In fighting amongst us is a waste of time, energy and resources. Disagreement and passionate discourse will be one of the sources of helping make us great again. But juvenille in-fighting and name calling should not be tolertated here. We need to be bigger than that and remember the example set by Reagan. Conservativism is the path to liberty and returning America to greatness.

Thank you Lizard and Charles for providing an excellent forum for us all. A forum that will be a cornerstone to rebuilding our republic.

730 Wookieelips  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:28pm

re: #688 DisturbedEma

My sons too. . .and Sarah's son. . .

If the money's still there, he'll be in the air will the hellfires protecting those on the ground.
If they can afford to put fuel in the helicopter, anyway.
Let's hope they at least get the support they need to stay safe.

731 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:33pm

re: #724 Bobblehead

I read in the WSJ the market has already factored in an Obama victory.

The real factoring hasn't begun. OMG

732 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:38pm

re: #598 Killgore Trout

It's LGF readers like you and Cogsquito that make me wonder why I even bother coming here anymore. Good luck with your free stuff.

733 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:51pm

re: #718 unrealizedviewpoint

My hope (eh, rhymes with 'dope') is that the Dhims are just craven, power-mad buffoons and not completely stupid. My belief is that they'll spin 'Bush's war' into 'Obama's Victory'. Our guys WILL be safe!

734 nils2en  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:10pm

Everyone! Arm yourselves to the teeth before January. The 2nd amendment is going to be the 2nd to go (after the 1st amendment) and if you want a fighting chance, go to the NRA site for your state, see what you have to do to legally obtain firearms and do it! It is going to the last gasp of this once great Country...

735 drpangloss  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:25pm

2004 election was the year of the blog

2008 election was the year of the MSM back with a vengeance. they controlled the agenda for this election.

that and $600 million

736 crazy cat lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:30pm

re: #440 Irish Rose
I'm so glad I took the rest of the week off. Don't want to deal with the moonbats at work.

737 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:48pm

re: #701 Outrider

Looks like them Pumas ran a deception operation on us eh?

Naahhh, they just went home, had themselves a good cry, got over it, and voted Obama.

738 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:09:37pm

I'm stunned, exhausted and devastated.
I simply cannot believe that the citizens of this great nation have elected an America hating Marxist thug with terrorist connections as our next Commander-in Chief.

My God, what have we done?

Our enemies are celebrating tonight... the devil is dancing around the campfire.

I grieve for my son and for all of our men and women in the military, who are now at the mercy of this vile man and the vile leftist leaders in Washington.

I'm so heartbroken that I have nothing left to say, lizards.
I'm going to bed.

739 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:10:31pm

He won because
a) he's cute
b) he promised them everything
c) anything negative, or even missing, was buried by the TV stars

740 Bobblehead  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:10:39pm

re: #548 Cartman

The people who really piss me off tonight are the so-called "affluent suburbanites" who voted in droves for 0bama. WTF were they thinking? Them and the "it's for the children" soccer moms I saw all over the friggin' place with the 0bama stickers plastered on the bumpers of their minivans. My blood is about to boil.

Tell me about it. Idiots!

741 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:10:43pm

I suppose we're going to have to watch him flip off McCain again in his victory speech.

742 yesandno  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:10:52pm

The best President money could buy...

743 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:06pm

re: #699 MandyManners

It's over, Mandy.

744 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:09pm

re: #708 Ozymandias

since we're doing predictions, here's mine, and i hate it, but my gut feels it.

. Israel will survive because they collectively have the most dedicated and gifted intelligence personnel in the world, but the united states will be divided. Blood will spill. And guess who will rise to lead America to fight out of the trench? You guessed it, the modern day Joan of Arc will arise, Sarah Palin. But will it be too late?

yes, i know this sounds apocalyptic. sorry.

Sorry to disillusion you on the Israel front mate. For all intents and purposes Israel as we now know it is F**Ked. The window of opportunity to strike and slow down WMD production in Iran will bass in just 16 weeks when the S-300s become operational. Meantime there is a leadership Israel until mid February at the earliest. Meanwhile the Obamination will be doing his 'darndist' to screw Israel's coop. There will be some glass parking lots in the next year or so where Tel Aviv used to stand.

... and I'll bet you London to a brick you won't find one Jewish voter in the US who will admit having voted for the Obamination.

Palin might still be viable in 4 years but I wouldn't put money on that either after the MSM finish beating on her for 4 long years!

745 EA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:01pm

It'll be interesting to see what the stock market does tomorrow.

746 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:01pm

re: #735 drpangloss

2004 election was the year of the blog. 2008 election was the year of the MSM back with a vengeance. they controlled the agenda for this election. That and $600 million

2005, Katrina to be specific, was the moment they realized they were all in this together, and that to win they had to get on, and stay on, the same page. And that when they did, they could control the mic and hence the agenda. We didn't understand the implications until it was far too late.

This election was lost in '05...

747 Wookieelips  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:14pm

re: #702 apb1

Don't know if I'd worry a lick on that - stutterin' O's controllers and the rest of the Dhims will spin the Iraq war as a victory BY the Dhims. Why do you think it's been completely off the pages? The US has won that going away...

Now's the time to bask in the Dhim's victory in Iraq! Just wait to see the media frauds jump on that...

I'm not worried that the war's not won, I'm worried 0 will pull everyone and all the money, which will pretty much undo anything achieved there, not to mention that our people would be retreating under fire.

But...I hope you're right. I don't care if they keep at it and take credit, as long as my friends and family over there can stay safe.
I am pretty worried about a skyrocketing electric bill here at home, tho.

748 avspatti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:53pm

re: #157 ErislDysnomia

Mostly the latter, by the MSM.

For the umpteenth time:

THE MSM IS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM™

We all must wash our hands of them. No more newspapers. No more watching MSM on TV. No more newsmagazines. No more reading anything from them. They are already failing. Let's just help them move along faster. Without their audience, their power will die, and their being in the tank for anyone will not matter. They deserve all the disdain they have so richly earned. It will be a joy to see it.

749 stonewater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:00pm

re: #642 scratch

My cleaning lady made the mistake of wearing her Obama t-shirt the last time she was here (and my McCain/Palin sign was in the front yard). I was livid so I left the house to gather my wits. She comes every other week. I called her the next day and told her that because it looks like Obama will be elected President, we have to cut back on household expenses effective immediately. I told her that during the winter I have more time to clean the house on my own so we will go from every 2 weeks to every 3 weeks. I also told her that I will need her to complete the forms so I can file a 1099 on her. To hell with them. If we have to earn $150 to pay her $100, she can pay her fair share. And if I ever hear her bitch again about health care, etc., I'll tell her to speed dial Mr. O. After all, he can solve any problem for anyone (unless you happen to be a small business owner).

750 Captkirk35  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:13pm

re: #583 livefreeor die

My very conservative relatives voted for Obama.. Hard as that is to believe. They are the most gun-toting, business-owning, properties-rights suppoting people you will ever find, yet they voted for Obama.

Here's the problem: They don't follow the news, or politics, or alternative media, or talk radio very closely at all. They watch a little news, and what they see is exclusively MSM. Therefore, they are essentially ignorant to the ways of Obama, and they don't realize the things they hold dear are in danger.

Folks, it's imperative we start educating the people in are sphere of influence. I think this, as much as anything else, is the lesson learned out of this experience. The Right has become so passive, and those days must end if we are to ever gain power again.

751 Catttt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:15pm

Obama said the following, in a speech to Planned Parenthood:

"The first thing I'd do as president," he told a cheering audience, "is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do."

He also has said that he is firm on this issue and will not change.

I truly hope he will not do this.

This is interesting, because according to Pew, between 1963, the black population increased from 22.3 million to 38.7 million. 10% of this was from immigration. Since 1973, about 13 MILLION black babies were aborted. This is about ONE THIRD the black American population, denied life by abortion. This is three times, ap, the rate of white babies being aborted.

I know we don't all agree on the big A. However, can you see what I am getting at? If you don't count immigration, blacks are reducing their population, as a percentage of growth, in this country.

And Senator O wants to make this easier, allow late term abortions, pay for them with tax money, and negate all state laws, as the FIRST THING he will do.

752 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:33pm

re: #735 drpangloss

2004 election was the year of the blog

2008 election was the year of the MSM back with a vengeance. they controlled the agenda for this election.

that and $600 million

If buyers remorse sets in, big-time, within the first few months of Obamanation's presidency... that could well take the MSN down with it.

753 Wookieelips  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:10pm

re: #739 FightingBack

He won because
a) he's cute

I don't see it. Plus, that nose mole is pretty gross.

754 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:18pm

re: #689 bellamags

I keep thinking about that woman from youtube that went to an Obamarally and was saying how if Obama is elected she won't have to worryabout paying for her gas, paying her mortgage etc. It is going to be aday of reckoning for her and others when those promises do not come tofruition. Maybe that is why this happened - maybe this will be a lessonfor a lot of people. Obama has written checks his ass can't cash andthe American people will be lining up at the bank with worthless paper.

I think a large part of Obama's constituency will be shocked to discover that even when their man is in power, life still sucks sometimes. You still apply for jobs that you don't get, you still don't make as much as the guy down the street, you still don't have all the privilege you would like.

755 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:46pm

re: #725 NomadOfNorad

(Emphasis mine.)

Well, that's good at least. But that assumes one of them doesn't die, or doesn't have something happen to him or his family that makes him want to retire, or doesn't get kidnapped by space-aliens and never seen again, or something.

If I'm Clarence Thomas or Antonin Scalia, I'm calling for 24/7 security coverage, by guys I trust.

The hatred of those two is so great.
The temptation so obvious.

756 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:50pm

re: #745 EA

It'll be interesting to see what the stock market does tomorrow.

Not much as the smart money has already factored in an Obamination win into the DOW!

757 Bobblehead  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:58pm

re: #749 stonewater

My cleaning lady made the mistake of wearing her Obama t-shirt the last time she was here (and my McCain/Palin sign was in the front yard). I was livid so I left the house to gather my wits. She comes every other week. I called her the next day and told her that because it looks like Obama will be elected President, we have to cut back on household expenses effective immediately. I told her that during the winter I have more time to clean the house on my own so we will go from every 2 weeks to every 3 weeks. I also told her that I will need her to complete the forms so I can file a 1099 on her. To hell with them. If we have to earn $150 to pay her $100, she can pay her fair share. And if I ever hear her bitch again about health care, etc., I'll tell her to speed dial Mr. O. After all, he can solve any problem for anyone (unless you happen to be a small business owner).

The first chuckle I've had all evening. Lots of those Obama lovin cleaning ladies are going to have a hard time finding work when their employers' taxes go up and people start cutting back.

758 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:04pm

re: #747 Wookieelips

I pray for the safety of all in Iraq. What a contrast between those in Iraq that braved death to vote, whereas we put up with douchebag Black Panthers and ACORN, subverting the vote!

You're right on the power thing - once Obomber declares CO2 a toxin (another hidden media gem) coal plants are screwed, and the residents depending on that power will be, too.

Keep a little faith, though. While over half the country lost their minds today, they'll come to their senses after the Four Horsemen of the Financial Apocalypse ride (Obomber, Biden, Pelosi, Reid).

759 Boxy_brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:00pm

And to top it all off.. I am out of stoli. Fuck it. I should have quit with kipling.

I love this country, and I am heartbroken tonight. Just FYI 'nite

760 EA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:01pm

re: #742 yesandno

The best President money could buy... ...

The true measure of how far the dollar has fallen then.

761 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:04pm

It sure didn't take long for people to unload on McCain. I for one applaud the Senator for fighting a good fight. The truly bizarro way that this election cycle has unfolded, was not in response to McCain or his campaign. NOBODY thought that Hillary Clinton wasn't going to be the Democratic nominee 2 years ago. She had everything going for her, yet she was beaten back by this thuggish personality cult. We've just witnessed our first American Idol presidential election.

Republicans will have to regroup for sure, in a major way. But this year Republicans did not have much to offer. Any of them would have been defeated today, given the circumstances with the opponent, the media, and the economy.

Sure I wish the Senator would have used some different tactics, fought in a different way. But he fought it his way, and did not disgrace the party, and gave it his all even when he was written off, and in any normal world, would have been the winner.

John McCain was not my choice going in to this match, but I'm proud of him tonight. He didn't lose tonight because of not bringing up Rev Wright.

Republicans don't have to hang their heads down because of the candidate they nominated, but the Democrats sure should, and probably will have buyers remorse in the not so distant future.

762 NomadOfNorad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:09pm

re: #745 EA

It'll be interesting to see what the stock market does tomorrow.

I suspect it won't be pretty. :-%P%

Might even be a full on crash. :-(

763 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:19pm

re: #752 NomadOfNorad

If buyers remorse sets in, big-time, within the first few months of Obamanation's presidency... that could well take the MSN down with it.

...Except I believe it won't. I fully expect the Broadsheet Bullies to ask for, and receive, the BBC's deal: Their own funding, no strings attached. They will then tell us all, loudly, to Fuck Off And Die.

764 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:10pm

McCain concedes.

765 Captkirk35  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:14pm

re: #720 Archimedes

Well said

766 SAZorama  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:17pm

McCain conceding here on my local PHX TV 9:18pm

OH God...

767 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:02pm

re: #693 ClosetConservative

bite me, RINO.

768 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:53pm

re: #764 Irish Rose

Start with a small positive tomorrow - every day above ground is a good day. Sun'll be up, Thanksgiving's on the way (we STILL have the greatest Country in the history of the planet), time for friends and family.

Then start preparing to sit back and watch the spectacle. Dhims are in charge. They break it, they bought it.

769 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:11pm

re: #750 Captkirk35

My very conservative relatives voted for Obama.. Hard as that is to believe. They are the most gun-toting, business-owning, properties-rights suppoting people you will ever find, yet they voted for Obama.

Here's the problem: They don't follow the news, or politics, or alternative media, or talk radio very closely at all. They watch a little news, and what they see is exclusively MSM. Therefore, they are essentially ignorant to the ways of Obama, and they don't realize the things they hold dear are in danger.

Folks, it's imperative we start educating the people in are sphere of influence. I think this, as much as anything else, is the lesson learned out of this experience. The Right has become so passive, and those days must end if we are to ever gain power again.

Then they are terminally STUPID. It's your responsibility to tell them so as well. You should also suggest that they start to follow the goings on in the country and to wake the F**K up!


Maroons!


The US actually deserves Obama for being a narcissistic bunch of 'mall-rats'

Present 'mall-rats' excluded of course! LOL :)

770 Pepper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:30pm

re: #503 Thanos

Ask me tomorrow=:) Things they are a changing.

771 EA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:34pm

re: #764 Irish Rose

McCain concedes.

2010, 2012.

Life goes on, just worse.

772 alien_mind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:33pm

re: #708 Ozymandias

And guess who will rise to lead America to fight out of the trench? You guessed it, the modern day Joan of Arc will arise, Sarah Palin. But will it be too late?

yes, i know this sounds apocalyptic. sorry.


I like her, but I just don't think she's our answer.

773 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:41pm

re: #733 apb1

My belief is that they'llspin 'Bush's war' into 'Obama's Victory'. Our guys WILL be safe!

Good God, you just reminded me one of the major reasons I wanted to win tonight. The thought of them taking credit for success in Iraq, which I agree that they will do, turns my stomach.

774 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:30pm

re: #771 EA

2010, 2012.

Life goes on, just worse.

After living the 'socialist dream' here in New Zealand for the past 9 years... you just don't know how much worse it can get!

But you lot are about to find out the hard way.


Ohhh Yes Forget about your guns and stuff.

Socialists are quite smart really.

They will 'boil the frog' one degree at a time.

Pretty soon you won't recognise the 'old place' and wonder how it could have fallen so far!

The truth.

Take it from one who is still suffering from the pox of socialism.


Well perhaps not past next Saturday!

When our current socialist is replaced by a conservative socialist.

They really are like fleas.

Once you get 'em they are difficult to get rid of!

775 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:35pm

re: #773 scratch

Yep - makes me want to puke, too. Bigger bite is the liberal douchebag media - which INCLUDES SCHOOL BOOK PUBLISHERS - will spin this any way they want to make the Dhims the heroes.

And the short-memoried animals on The Manor Farm see the only rule left - All animals are equal, some are more equal than others...

776 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:17pm

re: #775 apb1

Yep - makes me want to puke, too. Bigger bite is the liberal douchebag media - which INCLUDES SCHOOL BOOK PUBLISHERS - will spin this any way they want to make the Dhims the heroes.

And the short-memoried animals on The Manor Farm see the only rule left - All animals are equal, some are more equal than others...

Just make sure you don't cross the pigs!

Not good!

Oh yes and no more pork or bacon jokes either!

777 stonewater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:13pm

re: #67
9
ErislDysnomia

Found the link to the LA Times advertisers

Your text to link...

E-mail it to everyone you know. Print it out for those who don't have e-mail.
Also, when I wrote to the advertisers, I re-iterated that it was not because I did not agree with Obama, it was because the LA Times was withholding valid information so that the voters could make an educated decision. Regardless as to your political beliefs, it's just flat wrong and it's time people and companies stand up for right and wrong.

Personally, although I would never approve of an Obama Presidency, I could swallow it better if it weren't for ACORN, the illegal funds to the campaign, the propaganda of the mainstream media and bussing voters to the caucuses at the last minute. In my opinion, there is nothing honorable about Obama and his campaign.

778 ladycatnip  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:15pm

Can't believe McCain is giving his concession speech right now - it's only 8:30pm.

This was his to lose and he lost it. His handlers were incompetent. They muzzled Palin, shoving her in front of Charlie Gibson and Couric instead of Fox News or conservative radio to get her feet wet. There was one misstep after another and it proved to be the GOP's undoing.

779 Floral Giraffe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:28pm

So, Lizard Master Charles, where do YOU think we should start to regroup, for the next battle. Pray tell...

780 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:49pm

re: #774 Aussie Infidel

Sorry to hear it - it's only on blogs that I can see what's going on in the rest of the world, and I sure don't trust the AP, UPI, etc.

Today's more of a day of stupidity than tragedy - at least at first blush. Ben Franklin was attributed (and dead on) with "When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."

I hope (rhymes with 'dope') for buyer's remorse...

781 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:25pm

re: #767 redc1c4

bite me, RINO.

I guess all the REAL Republicans, such as yourself, should be foaming at the mouth and vowing obstructionism for the next four years. Just as the Democrats have been doing for the last eight.

782 Captkirk35  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:38pm

re: #769 Aussie Infidel

I think they represent a lot of people in this country. Not stupid. But ignorant about the ways of politics, and what issues candidates support.

The problem is, the MSM went out of Obama's way to run interference for him. If you don't pay attention thru alternative media, you didn't know how anti-gun Obama is, or that his tax increases will affect far more than the sliver of people he says will get them.

It's also my fault for not educating them. Frankly, I thought they were safe. We all have to take accountability, moving forward to take back our culture.

783 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:09pm

re: #79 Charles

Sitting here in Israel, I wonder if the the shit will hit the fan before Bush leaves office.

Also, my father just walked in, looked at Foxnews, and said "very bad, now the world is going to be hell."

784 switter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:11pm

it was the perfect storm. Obama was exceptionally lucky with the financial collapse in September.

785 panamahat  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:36pm

re: #663 Wookieelips
Wookieelips,
Of course you are worried about your husband. I can't imagine the angst you must go through -- and then to have the stress of this election on top of it. Thanks to both you and you husband for your sacrifices. May God protect him.
Having said that, I echo what some other folks have posted here. Although we don't know anything for sure, Obama will not be a dictator -- at least not at first -- and I don't think he will cut the funding for Iraq the way some want. The worst that he can do is bring our soldiers home immediately and leave Iraq to the vultures. I cannot conceive that he would harm the brave men who are there by cutting back on funding. It would leave him open to serious condemnation by (some of) our allies and would produce massive discontent among the troops. In fact, although I am 100% in favor of the war in Iraq and think Bush did a brilliant job of taking the war to the enemy, if it comes down to preserving our country or theirs, I have to be an American first. If Obama begins to build his domestic security force (sounds a lot like the brown shirts and black shirts to me), we will need every military man and woman here on our own territory. I hope it won't come to that but we CANNOT permit such a force to be built. If so, there will be NO going back.

786 stonewater  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:53pm

Is it me, or would President Hillary Clinton go down a little easier right now? Rush's "Operation Chaos" came back to bit us on the a?!

This man has no f?!g idea what he just got himself into.

My ex was a Secret Service agent with Reagan...how I long for those days. I had the privilege of meeting him several times. What a smart, classy strong guy with good morals. Do those kind of leaders even exist anymore?

787 VioletTiger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:48pm

re: #597 astronmr20

Obama is up by about 140,000 votes in OH, too many to make up with the few counties left over.

About the margin of fraud...

788 avspatti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:24pm

re: #752 NomadOfNorad

If buyers remorse sets in, big-time, within the first few months of Obamanation's presidency... that could well take the MSN down with it.

Let it be so.

789 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:32pm
790 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:23pm
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