Election Day, Thread 10
Hey, maybe California will go for McCain!
Ya think?
Hey, maybe California will go for McCain!
Ya think?
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:00:39pm |
Current EC count
Obama 220 McCain 135.
Flip OH's 27 (still slim chance)
O 193 M 162
CA, OR, WA are a given to O 73 ECV.
O 266
HI is puts to O 270.
Not gonna' happen.
Let's get used to it.
President Barack Hussein Obama.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:41pm |
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Empire1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:01:56pm |
E-5 retirement and two small SS checks ... we aren't paying income tax, but increased business and other indirect taxes will still cut into what little we get, even without bringing in the syrocketing energy costs His Creepiness is promising. It ain't gonna be fun. And there are only so many Wal-Mart greeter jobs available for people our ages.
I try to be optimistic, but at the moment, that isn't exactly easy. The night's not over, though, and as long as McCain can manage not to concede and really blow it, there's a chance.
Still, to be honest, at the moment I feel like digging a hole, climbing in, and pulling it closed behind me. I was born and raised in a free country, and it's incredibly difficult to see it turning communist as I watch. I weep for the country I used to know.
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ClosetConservative Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:38pm |
Folks:
I said this in the chat, but I want to say it again. Look. I want to urge reason in the coming four years. Yes, we had to put up with 8 years of Bush Derangement Syndrome. But McCain's campaign slogan was "Country First". We need to stick to that. Yes, Obama is a raving liberal. But on the off chance that something good comes out of this Obama administration, don't attack it just because it came out of an Obama administration. Those are Democrat tactics. I guarantee that if we keep level heads and run a respectful opposition campaign, we can nail the buggers to a wall in 2010. Civility is, as far as I'm concerned, a very important part of Reagan conservatism. God bless America!
-ClosetConservative
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Metal Man Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:02:44pm |
The American dream has taken a hit but it still lives.
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non-lib Nina Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:01pm |
re: #6 Empire1
E-5 retirement and two small SS checks ... we aren't paying income tax, but increased business and other indirect taxes will still cut into what little we get, even without bringing in the syrocketing energy costs His Creepiness is promising. It ain't gonna be fun. And there are only so many Wal-Mart greeter jobs available for people our ages.
I try to be optimistic, but at the moment, that isn't exactly easy. The night's not over, though, and as long as McCain can manage not to concede and really blow it, there's a chance.
Still, to be honest, at the moment I feel like digging a hole, climbing in, and pulling it closed behind me. I was born and raised in a free country, and it's incredibly difficult to see it turning communist as I watch. I weep for the country I used to know.
I am crying right now. :(
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:08pm |
[Link: www.red-secupp.blogspot.com...]
Gotta start looking for new stars.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:15pm |
Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Ho-Chi Minh are high fiving in Hell.
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:24pm |
Well, I don't have to worry about a riot tonight.
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:27pm |
McCain did an ok job. Where McCain really fumbled was in the debates. Obama had a powerful ground game, money pouring in from all over the world, and an in-the-pocket media playing interference for him.
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:33pm |
we are beating him in NC.
But hey Bambi I love you,
SEND MONEY
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Outrider Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:03:47pm |
It ain't over yet. Although a lot of you have already rolled over.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:10pm |
I hope the certain right wingers are happy. They got their wish- nose cut in spite of face. I'm gong to make them support my ass while they work twice as hard.
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J.S. Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:30pm |
Well, Hamas and Hezbollah must be celebrating...not to mention Iran...they'll get their nukes for sure...and, of yeah, good-bye Israel...nice while it lasted.
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non-lib Nina Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:34pm |
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Outrider Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:04:58pm |
Looks like them Pumas ran a deception operation on our asses eh?
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nofixedabode Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:05:17pm |
Any way Iran isn't gonna take this as a go ahead to attack Israel?
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capecoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:05:34pm |
How the hell can FOX call him president elect, when some states are still voting? Talk about disenfranchisement.
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non-lib Nina Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:05:57pm |
re: #33 nofixedabode
Any way Iran isn't gonna take this as a go ahead to attack Israel?
on january 21, 2009
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3 wood Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:06pm |
Well, this to shall pass, eventually.
But understand, the Marxists are taking power for a time.
I just hope that they do not have a filibuster proof majority.
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monkey den Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:12pm |
re: #23 Outrider
It ain't over yet. Although a lot of you have already rolled over.
You can't be serious
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:13pm |
Anybody know the blast radius of a Pakistani nuke?
I think I may have to move...
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Piglet-U93 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:14pm |
re: #32 Outrider
Looks like them Pumas ran a deception operation on our asses eh?
15% PUMA's voted for McCain thats 2.25 million
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capecoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:14pm |
re: #34 capecoddah
How the hell can FOX call him president elect, when some states are still voting? Talk about disenfranchisement.
that was a rhetorical question.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:29pm |
I can't wait to call my 0bama loving auntie who hates paying taxes tomorrow.
I'm going to manically laugh at her and tell her to enjoy taking it up the ass while never bitching to me about it again.
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:35pm |
This may finally get me to get rid of my t.v. so I don't have to look at or listen to him.
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Serge GoFan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:36pm |
5th Of November Morning Song
You woke up this morning
The world turned upside down,
Lord above, thing's ain't been the same
Since the blues walked in our town.
Woke up this morning
Woke up this morning
Woke up this morning...
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:06:49pm |
re: #33 nofixedabode
Any way ISRAEL
Iranisn't gonna take this as a go ahead to attack IRANS ASSsrael?
FIXED
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loppyd Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:17pm |
re: #12 ClosetConservative
Folks:
I said this in the chat, but I want to say it again. Look. I want to urge reason in the coming four years. Yes, we had to put up with 8 years of Bush Derangement Syndrome. But McCain's campaign slogan was "Country First". We need to stick to that. Yes, Obama is a raving liberal. But on the off chance that something good comes out of this Obama administration, don't attack it just because it came out of an Obama administration. Those are Democrat tactics. I guarantee that if we keep level heads and run a respectful opposition campaign, we can nail the buggers to a wall in 2010. Civility is, as far as I'm concerned, a very important part of Reagan conservatism. God bless America!
-ClosetConservative
I agree in part, but we must fight for what we believe in and we must demand the same of our Republican leaders. THEY must not forget the treatment they have received in the last two years and they must not be afraid to use every single shred of their legislative power to push back against what is coming down the pike.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:26pm |
So, is the proper term "Messiah", or do we use "Messiah-elect" until January?
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:42pm |
This is the culmination of 40+ years of Gramscian infiltration of our educational system, media, and entertainment, with a good-sized topping of celebrity culture. The termites have eaten away at the foundations of our great nation. It's not over by any means, but we're in great danger now.
G-d help us.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:43pm |
re: #27 Sharmuta
I hope the certain right wingers are happy. They got their wish- nose cut in spite of face. I'm gong to make them support my ass while they work twice as hard.
that made me giggle.
yeah let the rich fckers who can't wait to get taxed, support our asses.
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capecoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:07:45pm |
re: #43 ChargerGirl
This may finally get me to get rid of my t.v. so I don't have to look at or listen to him.
Just thinking the same...
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:11pm |
Are the palis dancing in the streets with celebratory gunfire yet?
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Syrah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:17pm |
Sometimes, there are no words that can do justice.
It has been a very long day.
Goodnight all.
Keep a cool head.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:33pm |
Hello all. sorry to be so late to the game but I couldn't get in. I can't believe it turned out this bad. Thought Americans had better sense than this. I was wrong. Glad to have you all. Pray for this country.
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gozer the carpathian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:37pm |
As long as there are fine folks like my fellow lizards around the American dream still lives. We will be heard for the next four years and every crazy thing Obama does he will be held accountable for. When Americans wake up tomorrow and cheer or cry for the Anointed one we will still be here.
When Iran nukes some place we'll have known we warned of it coming. It'll be small comfort but we'll have a clear concience about it.
When Unemployment skyrockets and buisnesses leave or close in droves we'll know why it happened and how. We'll make sure to tell everyone who's to blame and why.
In the end we're an opposition party once again. But we must learn how to me a majority party before we get there again. I think America is about to get the beating it deserves for this stupidity. The only hope is that we'll actually LEARN something from this.
It is a sad night, but as always we'll pass the power peacefully.
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MrPaulRevere Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:40pm |
Well, sometimes you're the bat, and sometimes you're the ball. Empty cliches seem appropriate tonight.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:55pm |
re: #52 nyc redneck
that made me giggle.
yeah let the rich fckers who can't wait to get taxed, support our asses.
I should move into Murdoch's place.
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Outrider Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:08:56pm |
re: #38 monkey den
You can't be serious
Unless you are looking at different maps; it is still close and a lot of rural votes are still out. But hey, you think what you want
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:09:09pm |
I just got a chill down my spine. I shudder to think what kind of world my children are going to go into when they become adults. My wife and I were talking about visiting Israel one day. I fear there won't be much left by the time we can go.
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TnTx13 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:09:13pm |
re: #11 Badge of Kaffir Pride
Anyone else shivering?
Yes - and I was a little surprised by the cold wave that hit me. Thought I was prepared...
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:09:15pm |
IMHO the office of President of the United States will be vacant from 20 January 2009 to 20 January 2013.
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Flying Dutchman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:09:59pm |
Hi all,
I really feel for you all but it's no the end of the world (yet).
Let's keep on fighting in a good spirit and now feel free to start DRINKING !
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:10:02pm |
Sucks to be Iraq, Israel, South Korea, and Taiwan right about now. Run up the white flag. Pass out candy in Gaza.
/pray that France doesn't demand the return of the Louisiana Purchase
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:10:17pm |
re: #49 gmsc
So, is the proper term "Messiah", or do we use "Messiah-elect" until January?
I prefer ANTI CHRIST myself. Nothing messiah like about this joker
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LittleGreenFavre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:10:52pm |
re: #5 Sharmuta
Half of America
hates America.feels pride for America for their first time in their adult lives.
Fixed it 4 ya!
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fat bastard vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:00pm |
I have been so afraid for this moment. The moment where I feel like Oskar Schindler...
...yet, so much less.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:02pm |
I hope all those fuckwits enjoy their 12% unemployment, $200/bbl oil, 18% interest rates, and a big fat Iranian nuke in their laps.
Where do I order my "Don't blame me, I voted for McCain" bumper sticker?
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:15pm |
Mrs. Reject and I are having a financial huddle on how to raise cash to buy canned goods, gold, and ammunition.
And NO, I am NOT JOKING!
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:25pm |
As I wrote to one of my good friends tonight...
"We're fucked"
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:29pm |
4 years is a long fucking time.
Long enough for some of BHO and Michelle's insidiousness to actually sink in as the "daily norm."
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kulhwch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:47pm |
Tough times ahead. As the band leader said to the band as the Titannic canted over, "it was my esteemed pleasure to play with you all." Times like this I wish I still drank.
}:( [sigh]
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:52pm |
re: #43 ChargerGirl
This may finally get me to get rid of my t.v. so I don't have to look at or listen to him.
I survived beautifully without watching the news during the years 1993-2001. I can do it again.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:37pm |
I have to say Obama will never be my President.He should enjoy himself now because it is never the glorious job he envisions it to be.It is the most thankless job in the World. My favorite axiom is "Be careful what you wish for, it might come true."
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Ezekiel2517 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:57pm |
You blew it up!
/You know the rest of the quote.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:05pm |
re: #72 JohnAdams
Where do I line up to pay my new taxes?!?
I have to file quarterly. My accountant and I are are going to have a long chat.
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DM Glampers Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:16pm |
Seriously,
Despite a few of you not thinking Palin was a good choice for VP, is she going back to AK politics, or do you think she's on the nat'l stage now for years to come?
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Cactus Pete Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:30pm |
For the first time in my life I am embarrassed to be an American...
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Optimizer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:33pm |
I'm so glad my father didn't live to see this.
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David IV of Georgia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:43pm |
re: #49 gmsc
So, is the proper term "Messiah", or do we use "Messiah-elect" until January?
Belial-elect would be the proper term.
Iran waited to R. Reagan Magnus was president before releasing the hostages. I think Iran may have a similar surprise this election, too.
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notutopia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:47pm |
Our country is divided.
Where are we heading as a country?
We have no idea. Our country is like silly putty in the hands of the new president and the House of Representatives.
Stay strong and Toughen up fellow Lizards we are in this for the long haul.
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:52pm |
I suppose we're going to get to watch him flip off McCain again when he gives his victory speech.
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fat bastard vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:54pm |
re: #12 ClosetConservative
Thanks for reminding me! Yay. To follow up many, many comments I have made in the preceding months...
Troofers? Please allow me to present to you, Mr. President Barack Hussein Obama.
Have at.
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:27pm |
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
So sorry, but it appears your fellow Republicans lost that fight, Rev. King.
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ClosetConservative Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:36pm |
Gents:
[Link: dingo.care2.com...]
Monty Python. Think on it. It's true. I'm pissed as hell to see us going down this road. All my friends are calling me and saying that Obama being black was the only prerequisite he needed to be president and that democratic socialism works in France and Cuba and Venezuela and how happy they'll be to see universalized health care and the Fairness Doctrine...
It's gonna be shitty, but this is our country. This is the United States of America! So a certain percentage of the country boned up big time, but hey, just like McCain said:
"America is worth fighting for!"
We'll take back our country for what it's suppose to be: A shining city upon a hill. We can pull together to reform our school system and prevent it from being a farm for socialism. We can pull together to reform our political system and prevent our treasury from being ravaged by extreme spending.
Yes We Can!
Yes We Can!
Yes We Can!
We'll pull it off in '10, folks. We can do it. We HAVE to do it. It's our duty.
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kynna Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:38pm |
I hate this. I knew it would happen and still it's like a knife in the gut.
Watch out for the celebration riots. I lived in Chicago when the Bulls were great, so I know what I'm talking about -- at least as far as Zero's home town is concerned.
Keep praying, keep fighting, don't make the same mistakes.
Let's try to take back the congress in two years, eh? Of course with the entrenched, massive fraud under the Obama administration we'll be lucky if we take any district at all.
Sorry to be a pessimist. It will always be country first for me. But I've got major sadness right about now.
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Globular Cluster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:39pm |
Oh well. Let's hope he does a good job as president. Let's hope that his tax hike isn't too high. Let's hope that he takes on Iran and prevents them from getting nukes. Let's hope that he isn't buddy-buddy with Hugo Chavez. Let's hope that he fixes fannie and freddie mae. Let's hope that he doesn't sell Israel down the river. Let's hope that his civilian defense force isn't run by the Black Panthers.
Let's avoid Obama Derangement Syndrome and hope he does well.
That being said, prepare for the worst.
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:57pm |
re: #78 CIA Reject
Mrs. Reject and I are having a financial huddle on how to raise cash to buy canned goods, gold, and ammunition.
And NO, I am NOT JOKING!
My hubby and I have already had that discussion.
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katemaclaren Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:05pm |
Hi guys...lookin' sad. I think, considering how unpopular President Bush is, thanks to the mfkingmedia, McCain did pretty well. I agree with the poster above that we need to keep it civil--keep voices raised, but keep it civil. Better candidates, we need, for sure. McCain goes back to the senate. Palin probably will run for Prez in 2012. I'm buying a button just to annoy my liberal friends. But, as I told my students, whoever is elected, is MY President. That if they keep that in mind, they won't let what happened to George Bush happen to BO.
The thing that absolutely GALLS me is the Pelosi Reid GLOATING that is sure to be going on big time.
I'm wondering what his first action will be? I remember being shocked senseless by Clinton's priority: Don't Ask;Don't tell.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:13pm |
Our enemies who want to kill us are celebrating. Most people do not have the ability to discern the operations of a highly sophisticated liar. Politics is their religion, and it is black magic indeed. Oops, I didn't mean to imply anything racist - but of course, my intent is irrelevent.
This reminds me of the OJ trial - the truth leaked out over time - just wait until we see the picture of those Bruno Mali shoes.
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Catttt Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:30pm |
Forgive me for crossposting this, but the last thread got away from me while I was writing it.
Obama said the following, in a speech to Planned Parenthood:
"The first thing I'd do as president," he told a cheering audience, "is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do."
He also has said that he is firm on this issue and will not change.
I truly hope he will not do this.
This is interesting, because according to Pew, between 1963, the black population increased from 22.3 million to 38.7 million. 10% of this was from immigration. Since 1973, about 13 MILLION black babies were aborted. This is about ONE THIRD the black American population, denied life by abortion. This is three times, ap, the rate of white babies being aborted.
I know we don't all agree on the big A. However, can you see what I am getting at? If you don't count immigration, blacks are reducing their population, as a percentage of growth, in this country.
And Senator O wants to make this easier, allow late term abortions, pay for them with tax money, and negate all state laws, as the FIRST THING he will do.
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:33pm |
the axis of taxes. the same people who resided over Fannie & Freddie, the same imbeciles who let our housing market go in the toilet while Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick pocketed millions - now have control.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:30pm |
re: #96 ClosetConservative
Gents:
[Link: dingo.care2.com...]
Monty Python. Think on it. It's true. I'm pissed as hell to see us going down this road. All my friends are calling me and saying that Obama being black was the only prerequisite he needed to be president and that democratic socialism works in France and Cuba and Venezuela and how happy they'll be to see universalized health care and the Fairness Doctrine...
In those countries, the socialists don't want to destroy their countries. Call them "pro-social socialists."
Obama, Ayers and their ilk etc. do. They are "anti-social socialists."
That is the difference.
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:55pm |
So do we have a fillibuster-proof Senate?
/trying to cling on to something possible good out of this night besides Tim Mahoney's defeat!
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fat bastard vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:16pm |
re: #86 Ezekiel2517
You blew it up!
/You know the rest of the quote.
Here's a better quote!
Okay. Silver linings. I'm afraid to look. Murtha? Franken?
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Mauser Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:23pm |
Dear America,
You F*cking idiots.
Sincerely,
Mauser
P.S. Now that you've got a Novelty president out of your system, can we have a real statesman for #45?
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katemaclaren Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:49pm |
re: #77 doppelganglander
I hope all those fuckwits enjoy their 12% unemployment, $200/bbl oil, 18% interest rates, and a big fat Iranian nuke in their laps.
Where do I order my "Don't blame me, I voted for McCain" bumper sticker?
I can tell you: Cafe Press
I ordered mine AND a button: Palin 2012
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Quad Mocha Matti Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:53pm |
Oh geez, Guess I better start figuring how much MORE I owe in Self-Employment taxes to the new CONfederates on top of the additional B&O Taxes to WA State.
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:09pm |
re: #88 DM Glampers
Seriously,
Despite a few of you not thinking Palin was a good choice for VP, is she going back to AK politics, or do you think she's on the nat'l stage now for years to come?
I hope she immerses herself in national and international politics so she is fully prepared to run for president in 2012. Suppose Obama would consider making her ambassador to Russia? After all, she can see it from her house.
/
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LittleGreenFavre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:17pm |
re: #6 Empire1
Still, to be honest, at the moment I feel like digging a hole, climbing in, and pulling it closed behind me. I was born and raised in a free country, and it's incredibly difficult to see it turning communist as I watch. I weep for the country I used to know.
I'm feeling exactly the same. However, I'll never stop blessing this country, no matter what.
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Steffan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:36pm |
re: #57 nigella
Hello all. sorry to be so late to the game but I couldn't get in. I can't believe it turned out this bad. Thought Americans had better sense than this. I was wrong. Glad to have you all. Pray for this country.
Like the man said: No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American electorate.
I wanna see what the final numbers are. There's some local issues here in sunny SoCal that have yet to be decided.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:51pm |
re: #98 Globular Cluster
Let's avoid Obama Derangement Syndrome and hope he does well.
Considering his "associations" it is unavoidable. And I'm not talking Halliburton here.
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dekalb Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:11pm |
I am not yet ready to give up. BHO still needs Ohio and Virginia. Ohio still has a lot of votes out. And BHO needs to crack the Rocky Mountain West. He may get New Mexico but I still have hope for Colorado and Nevada.
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dentate Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:18pm |
No one should be surprised by this, it has been a long time developing. Our presidential candidates are increasingly picked as celebrity idols, not as competent leaders. Even the staunchest supporters of W can hardly argue that he was the best thing the GOP could have come up with in 2000--name recognition, and a new face behind which more seasoned politicians thought they could exercise influence, were themes in that election too.
Our country has been betrayed by our cultural failure to differentiate between the TV and movies on the one hand, and real life on the other. News and entertainment are the same thing. Reality TV becomes reality. Reagan was perhaps the exception that proves the rule, but he at least had been a governor first!
One can only hope against hope now that, intent on securing a second term, BHO surrounds himself with advisors who will choose a more prudent, toned down approach than that which he advertised to gain this term. After all, much of this victory is a vindictive statement against Bush. That being said, I look around at the decades I have spent building up everything that I and my family have, and feel a deep sense of gloom that it will be frittered away on entitlement handouts to the lazy and the shiftless.
I am comforted by the hope that my children are still young enough that the losses and setbacks we may suffer in the next few years will not bother them as much, and that they will be among those who rebuild the country as it should be once it learns its lessons from this.
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Optimizer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:09pm |
re: #89 Cactus Pete
For the first time in my life I am embarrassed to be an American...
I was going to say "ashamed of my country".
This could be the beginning of the end of America. It was born in PA (Philadelphia, specifically), and in a way, it died there.
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Valentina Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:28pm |
#51 Neocon Hippie
"This is the culmination of 40+ years of Gramscian infiltration of our educational system, media, and entertainment, with a good-sized topping of celebrity culture. The termites have eaten away at the foundations of our great nation. It's not over by any means, but we're in great danger now."
As I former Child of the Sixties and Southern California, I would agree...And I would add, the termites are in some churches too...
Stay strong, resist the Socialist Brainwashing, and look to the next elections...2010 & 2012
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:46pm |
It looks like Norm Coleman won over Franken . . . thank God!
We might get our filibuster-proof Senate after all . . . and I sincerely hope Lieberman caucuses with the GOP . . . and that McCain has learned his lesson about "reaching across the aisle"
Now the GOP has to learn to hold as firm & fast as the Dems in the Senate and obstruct EVERYTHING they possibly can.
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loppyd Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:50pm |
I hope nobody expects me to sit back and play nice because of the historic nature of this election.
I won't be vanquished.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:13pm |
No matter the final outcome, this is still America, and I am still an American. I will do what Americans do, and have always done: stand strong for America and the ideals it embodies, no matter how much the odds seem stacked against us.
Ahhh! Fuck this doom and gloom shit! I'm gonna watch this flick again, and get fired up to deal with whatever tomorrow brings.
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mommydoc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:37pm |
Pathetic. But certainly when you look at the popular vote, BHO hardly has a mandate. And interesting that all the talking heads, while analyzing the demographics of the votes, blithely breezed past the fact that 97% of blacks voted for BHO. Talk about racism.
I can understand the excitement and pride in the African American community that a man of African extraction is being elected president. It is momentous. But he's not an African American in the strict sense, and the only person he cares about is himself, and maybe his family.
And all it took was massive voter fraud, and getting people who have never given a shit about the electoral process to come out and vote based solely on race. Jefferson's concept about educated voters has an appeal tonight.
McCain is giving his concession speech, and is showing himself to be a true patriot and a true gentleman. He hushed the booers as they started. He's making me so proud of him. I wish I could feel as proud of the man who is going to run our country into the ground for the next 4 years.
Sigh.
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PSGInfinity Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:10pm |
re: #32 Outrider
Looks like them Pumas ran a deception operation on our asses eh?
As I said earlier, I just think they cried it out, got over it, and voted Obama. No deception intended. They just changed their mind.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:31pm |
re: #124 mommydoc
Pathetic. But certainly when you look at the popular vote, BHO hardly has a mandate. And interesting that all the talking heads, while analyzing the demographics of the votes, blithely breezed past the fact that 97% of blacks voted for BHO. Talk about racism.
They will get what they deserve when the economy tanks further.
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loppyd Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:59pm |
re: #121 Florida Lady
It looks like Norm Coleman won over Franken . . . thank God!
We might get our filibuster-proof Senate after all . . . and I sincerely hope Lieberman caucuses with the GOP . . . and that McCain has learned his lesson about "reaching across the aisle"
Now the GOP has to learn to hold as firm & fast as the Dems in the Senate and obstruct EVERYTHING they possibly can.
AMEN!
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Gozer the Carpathian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:23pm |
Hmmm.. my family should seriously look at getting anyone and everyone we can out of Taiwan. It's going to be bad there soon. :(
I was already working on getting my wife's family out of Australia. Now I'm not so sure they should be coming here and me not going there. Grr..
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Cartman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:42pm |
re: #119 Valentina
And I would add, the termites are in some churches too...
They're in many churches, and may well have swayed this election in favor of their Personal Messiah.
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katemaclaren Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:56pm |
Well, I'm listening to McCain concede--and I'm bawling. What a great man. I'm so glad he's still in the SENATE.
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Catttt Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:56pm |
Think this might be a wake-up call for Republicans?
I am looking forward to 2010 and 2012, because I smell an Obama malaise a la Carter. You know that the Dems will not be able to resist taxing and spending, and they will be doing it during a recession.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:29pm |
re: #12 ClosetConservative
like i said in the other thread: "Bite me, RINO."
war to the teeth, teeth to the bone and then use a rock to get to the marrow.
if you're not with us, go get in line for "your share".
scum like you got us where we are today.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:43pm |
re: #127 loppyd
AMEN!
and conservatives need to hold fast and furious with the MSM which is the root cause of our decline. Boycott it, boycott its sponsors.
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PSGInfinity Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:05pm |
re: #101 DistantThunder
... This reminds me of the OJ trial - the truth leaked out over time - just wait until we see the picture of those Bruno Mali shoes.
Bravo!
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loppyd Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:09pm |
re: #131 Cattt
Think this might be a wake-up call for Republicans?
I am looking forward to 2010 and 2012, because I smell an Obama malaise a la Carter. You know that the Dems will not be able to resist taxing and spending, and they will be doing it during a recession.
We need to start that fight NOW.
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Justacanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:23pm |
That's it America, the outcome is here. Your new Pres will be messing with NAFTA and rejecting our filthy tar sands oil, our softwood lumber and our Alberta beef, just for starters. I can betl the protectionist barriers being constructed in the head of Schumer right now and the Dem gang of fools as I type this. Thankfully, the global commodity markets are easier to access than ever before. Our oil can go to China if you don't want it, and our lumber to Japan and wherever else we can find a home for it -- after all, your new home starts are way down and will be that way for a while.
Yes America, congratulations on electing the first African American as President. I commend you for that. But good golly, how soon will you wake up to what you have wrought? And holy cripes -- you re-elected that assclown Murtha and the tool Franken. What a bunch of fools in those states.
Sign me, just a grumpy cranky conservative Canuck.
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katemaclaren Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:36pm |
re: #121 Florida Lady
It looks like Norm Coleman won over Franken . . . thank God!
We might get our filibuster-proof Senate after all . . . and I sincerely hope Lieberman caucuses with the GOP . . . and that McCain has learned his lesson about "reaching across the aisle"
Now the GOP has to learn to hold as firm & fast as the Dems in the Senate and obstruct EVERYTHING they possibly can.
WOW YOU HAVE REALLY HELPED ME THROUGH THIS NIGHT! GREAT NEWS!
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Mauser Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:48pm |
It will not be filibuster proof, as the Republican delegation will welcome their new Democrat masters.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:39pm |
That Murtha got re elected shows there are some seriously defective people in PA.
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RirghtSideOfTheFence Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:42pm |
We are about to see what it is like to be a communist country
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PSGInfinity Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:14pm |
re: #77 doppelganglander
I hope all those fuckwits enjoy their 12% unemployment, $200/bbl oil, 18% interest rates, and a big fat Iranian nuke in their laps.
Where do I order my "Don't blame me, I voted for McCain" bumper sticker?
CafePress, if memory serves. And I'll be right there with you.
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boogereatinmoron Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:24pm |
Our long national nightmare has just begun.
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Catttt Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:48pm |
re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth
No matter the final outcome, this is still America, and I am still an American. I will do what Americans do, and have always done: stand strong for America and the ideals it embodies, no matter how much the odds seem stacked against us.
Ahhh! Fuck this doom and gloom shit! I'm gonna watch this flick again, and get fired up to deal with whatever tomorrow brings.
"We rescue the world from mysticism and tyranny. No retreat, no surrender. That is Spartan law. A new age has dawned, an age of freedom, and all will know that Spartans gave their last breath to defend it."
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Random63 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:52pm |
We have handed the keys to our country over to the enemies of America by electing him and his cohorts...we just lost the war on terror tonight.
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mamashawna Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:33pm |
like i said before...fuck fuck fuck...I am crying for my country!
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katemaclaren Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:37pm |
re: #139 ErislDysnomia
That Murtha got re elected shows there are some seriously defective people in PA.
I LIVE in Pennsylvania--but I am from SCOTLAND. Right now I want to scream: FREEDOM - from the likes of that nasty piece of work MURTHA. Chris Matthews may be running for Arlen Specter's seat. I don't like Specter very much, but sure as hell will get out the vote for him if Chris Matthews decides to try.
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1 US Sheeple Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:09pm |
Well it looks bad for the US. The direct result of this victory will be that the opposition to the left (Obama et al) will be crushed. They will not be physically attacked at first but the conservative message to oppose the socialist will simply be blocked out! There will be total control of all current news outlets, the internet, and the current political opposition will be handcuffed. There will be an information black out and the only time you will learn of something you do not like will be when you see it on the street, you hear about it from someone who knows, or it comes to your front door.
Sure there will be those who will be VERY dissatisfied with the economy, foreign policy and the socialistic govt that we will have, but there will be no organized resistance because it will not be allowed.
The news black out will take care of most of the resistance and if someone does start to give problems they will be silenced by the leftist and it will all be done legally under the law. It will be done using the soon to be expanded civil rights laws, hate crime laws and the fairness doctrine.
The left will start with the dismanteling of what remains of the GOP. The GOP will be so savagely attacked that membership will be fighting for its survival and will have little time to mount any opposition to the left. It will be generations before this election is undone and there will be NOTHING that any organization (GOP, Libertarian,ets) will be able to do about it. Refer back to 1984 by George Orwell to see what is on the horizon.
The left has no compunction about using any means that it has to in order that they stay in power. The left has several models (communist, socialist,etc) that they can copy and believe me they will certainly do so.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:20pm |
Someone on IM just pointed out something to me:
What is the likelihood of the Fairness Doctrine being presented, and getting passed? And, should things go that way, what can we do to STOP it?
On the other hand, even if it DOES come in... it wouldn't apply to the blogosphere. But I also think the very ATTEMPT to bring back the Fairness Doctrine would stir up a hornets nest of protest.
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Wendya Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:14pm |
re: #98 Globular Cluster
Let's avoid Obama Derangement Syndrome and hope he does well.
Repeating Obama's own words and pointing out his associations will be considered ODS.
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monkey den Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:43:21pm |
re: #126 ErislDysnomia
They will get what they deserve when the economy tanks further.
...and there is no doubt that it will. Populism is, without question, a contraindication of economic growth.
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laparka2 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:45pm |
re: #141 PSGInfinity
CafePress, if memory serves. And I'll be right there with you.
We can always recycle the "He's not MY President" bumper stickers the left seemed to love so much...
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apb1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:55pm |
re: #136 Justacanuck
Sorry, my friend. Those of us with a lick of sanity voted for McCain. I think the feel-good morons will have buyer's remorse as soon as the bad policies start flying through Congress/Obomber like s**t through a goose ...
Black president? JC Watts comes to mind, as well as Michael Steele - both much smarter and more capable.
But in the meantime, our apologies.
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Spirit93 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:05pm |
re: #121 Florida Lady
It looks like Norm Coleman won over Franken . . . thank God!
We might get our filibuster-proof Senate after all . . . and I sincerely hope Lieberman caucuses with the GOP . . . and that McCain has learned his lesson about "reaching across the aisle"
Now the GOP has to learn to hold as firm & fast as the Dems in the Senate and obstruct EVERYTHING they possibly can.
And what do you think their reward for that will be?
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Spirit93 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:18pm |
re: #132 redc1c4
like i said in the other thread: "Bite me, RINO."
war to the teeth, teeth to the bone and then use a rock to get to the marrow.
if you're not with us, go get in line for "your share".
scum like you got us where we are today.
BRAVO Red!
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Captkirk35 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:47pm |
Lame speech.
Note to Obama.. the campaign is over buddy.
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Captkirk35 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:27pm |
re: #152 apb1
Agree
This feels an awful lot like '92. The Clinton bandwagon started emptying about six weeks into his term, if I recall, and completely emptied by '94. I expect the same thing to happen.
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LittleGreenFavre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:38pm |
re: #147 1 US Sheeple
So, what are we supposed to do now? Just curl up and die? Aren't we supposed to resist the coming encroachment every step of the way with all our might? Aren't we Americans, for God's sake?
C'mon, this is still America! We're not a friggin' Third World country, or at least not yet. We have a working, two centuries and counting old Constitution. We have a huge network of institutions at every level. Even more, we have the greatest and strongest civil society of the world. If they come after us and try to squeeze us out, we give 'em hell! If we have to take up the streets, we take 'em. If we must use the Second Amendment, we do so, but red-blooded Americans never surrender, and never give up their freedoms. Let's fight them back!
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1 US Sheeple Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:11pm |
#157 LittleGreenFavre
Any resistance will be portrayed as "right wing milita" who want to overthrow the US Govt. Resistance will be castigated on every hand and the sheeple will be told that those that oppose Obama's Govt are racist fanatics and that it is the duty of every citizen to oppose this horrible movement.
Think of being portrayed as the KKK because that is what it will be seen as. Gaining any support will be a long slog and it could take a generation or more to right the ship of state.
I don't like the prospects any more than you do, but you have to remember that only a third of the population supported the Revolution and two thirds were either on the fence or outright opposed the rebellion against the Crown.
What I am trying to say is the prospects for resistance in any form will be very tough.
The left has been working for this moment for a long time and they are not going to give up their advantage without trying every dirty trick in the books.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:33pm |
re: #12 ClosetConservative
Folks:
I said this in the chat, but I want to say it again. Look. I want to urge reason in the coming four years. Yes, we had to put up with 8 years of Bush Derangement Syndrome. But McCain's campaign slogan was "Country First". We need to stick to that. Yes, Obama is a raving liberal. But on the off chance that something good comes out of this Obama administration, don't attack it just because it came out of an Obama administration. Those are Democrat tactics. I guarantee that if we keep level heads and run a respectful opposition campaign, we can nail the buggers to a wall in 2010. Civility is, as far as I'm concerned, a very important part of Reagan conservatism. God bless America!
-ClosetConservative
No, we don’t need Obama Derangement Syndrome (we had Clinton Derangement Syndrome and it didn’t accomplish anything). But we do need to point out loudly and plainly every instance in which the Obama Administration so much as nods toward the redistributionist, pacifist, anti-libertarian and anti-traditionalist expectations we have of him.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:52:44pm |
re: #20 Charles
Surprised, but not shocked. The PUMAs didn't roar, and Bradley had no effect.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:55:47pm |
re: #136 Justacanuck
Yes, everyone says that it's an historic advancement for America to put its Jim Crow past behind it and elect an African-American President.
Except the sad historical fact is that African visitors to the South often were given access to White-only facilities because they were not descendants of slaves. And today a child of an African and a Kansan (by way of Hawaii) is becoming President, and he is being confused solely on the basis of skin color with the descendants of slaves. Obama has about as much claim on the legacy of the Greensboro lunch counter as Eminem does: both of them appropriated the genuine struggles of Black Americans to create their own brands, their own schtick.
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stuiec Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:45pm |
re: #117 dentate
No! Not gloom! Never gloom!
Gloom is a passive emotion, a resigned apprehension about future disappointments and disasters.
You need to feel active apprehension, the kind that makes you a little bit angry and triggers your adrenaline for the fight ahead.
The "sheeple" voted for Obama because they decided not to find out who he really is and instead became fully invested in who they wanted him to be. Our job going forward is to point out each and every action and word of Obama's that reveals him for what he truly is. He is not nearly the chameleon that Bill Clinton was, and he will soon enough provide evidence of his true agenda for America -- and we have to make sure that the "sheeple" open their eyes and see that evidence clearly.
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LittleGreenFavre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:29:16pm |
re: #160 1 US Sheeple
What can I tell you? Resisting Marxists or totalitarians of any stripe is no walk through a rose garden. However, we must keep our spirits high and remember that God in ultimately in charge, not any temporary cabal of thugs in power. Freedom is our God-given right, and it must be defended at all costs, but without fear or hatred in our hearts, so what if it takes a generation or two? We shall still resist!
Take Venezuela today as the closest example. After 10 years of Chavez rule, Venezuelans have not given up the fight. They keep resisting, using the Constitution passed by Chavez nine years ago, and finally they seem to be gaining ground against the thugs, their brutality and oil money. Some day, they will prevail and kick Chavez and his goons out of power and into prison. History works that way. The price? Lots of suffering along the way. Their prize? A free country again, with a renewed democracy. And remember, there is simply no comparison between Venezuela and the USA in terms of size and institutional culture and strength, so why should we despair? Let's soldier on and be ready!
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Optimizer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:35:19pm |
re: #157 LittleGreenFavre
So, what are we supposed to do now? Just curl up and die? Aren't we supposed to resist the coming encroachment every step of the way with all our might? Aren't we Americans, for God's sake?
C'mon, this is still America! We're not a friggin' Third World country, or at least not yet. We have a working, two centuries and counting old Constitution. We have a huge network of institutions at every level. Even more, we have the greatest and strongest civil society of the world. If they come after us and try to squeeze us out, we give 'em hell! If we have to take up the streets, we take 'em. If we must use the Second Amendment, we do so, but red-blooded Americans never surrender, and never give up their freedoms. Let's fight them back!
The country you're talking about wouldn't have done this.
The last 28 years are hereby exposed as our country always going for the slick talker. Reagan. Clinton. ("W" didn't have any slick-talking competitors). We're looking at 8 years of irreversable decline into socialism, here. We've already seen it - no screw-up sticks. The One can do no wrong. The damage will last longer than I will.
The only hope is if the novelty of his special status wears off. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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LittleGreenFavre Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:17:06am |
re: #166 Optimizer
The country you're talking about wouldn't have done this.
The last 28 years are hereby exposed as our country always going for the slick talker. Reagan. Clinton. ("W" didn't have any slick-talking competitors). We're looking at 8 years of irreversable decline into socialism, here. We've already seen it - no screw-up sticks. The One can do no wrong. The damage will last longer than I will.
The only hope is if the novelty of his special status wears off. I wouldn't hold my breath.
May nothing frighten you.
May nothing trouble you.
Everything passes.
God is faithful.
Patience
Attains everything.
Whoever has God
Lacks nothing.
God alone suffices.
(St. Teresa of Avila)
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1 US Sheeple Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:51am |
re: #157 LittleGreenFavre
A friend of mine is a pastor and he said in January, 2008 that Obama would be elected Pres of the country. He maintained that America was slated for decline because in the "end time" we play no role in world affairs because the forces of the Anti-Christ are to be the strongest military force on the planet.
Frankly, I was skeptical about this and felt that this was inconceivable. However, after what has transpired recently in the election, I am not sure that this will not happen.
If America is to brought to her knees and is to play no role in world events then the prospect of a removing a leftist govt and salvaging our future is bleak.
This scenario has been in the back of my mind and after the election results it seems that this could be happening right before our very eyes. The left has the power now and as I have stated previously they will not hesitate to grind down anyone or anything in their way.
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LittleGreenFavre Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:48:15am |
re: #168 1 US Sheeple
We're on some common ground here. I predicted early in January that America would elect Obama as POTUS, based on the fact that Hillary would be so polarizing that she would fuel her own nemesis in the primaries, and that the only guy that could become that was BHO (Edwards is a joke), and then he would trounce any Republican due of the sheer intensity of the BDS ailing the country. It saddens me to have gotten it right after all we now know about the next President.
If your pastor friend is right, then it is even more important to be brave but honorable and righteous, not because we would then save America, but because our souls would be in the line. Anyway...
May nothing frighten you.
May nothing trouble you.
Everything passes.
God is faithful.
Patience
Attains everything.
Whoever has God
Lacks nothing.
God alone suffices.
(St. Teresa of Avila)
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Pope Urban Thu, Nov 6, 2008 9:25:26am |
If He is the anti-christ, then we will be looking at a few years of remarkable work on his part as he ascends to global prominence, ending with a truce in Israel that will proport to last for seven years. Israel attacking Iran's nuke facilities, Hezbollah, Hamas, and fat ah counterattacking and being largely wiped out by IDF, globalization of the financial markets and the temporary stability that brings, and then nuke reductions and global government will be followed by the rapture.
Or he'll just fuck up the country bad enough that the real anti-christ will be able to do all the rest without much of a fight from the US.
God help us and forgive us, we know not what we have done.
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