President Barack Obama

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Politics • Tue Nov 4, 2008 at 8:10 pm PST • Views: 1,196

Barack Hussein Obama is the next President of the United States, and we extend our sincere congratulations.

Country first.

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1 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:41pm

President Government

2 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:11:52pm

Crap.

3 Cheeseland  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:03pm

We can pray that he is up to the job.

4 Macker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:25pm

ISRAEL: ATTACK NOW!

5 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:26pm

why am i laughing maniacally? i must be going mad.

6 Dasher  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:30pm

I will extend my insincere congratulations.

7 eastvillageinfidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:38pm

fuck.

8 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:12:51pm

Charles- you're a class act. Personally- I have no comment.

9 Soccermom  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:01pm

Actually, he's president-elect.

10 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:03pm

Ouch.

11 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:20pm

and now the tears rolling down my face.

12 Muadib  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:29pm

0bama. Old enough to rule the world, fool enough to loose it.

13 obscured by clouds  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:13:37pm

I feel like we just lost the Cold War...in 2008.

14 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:12pm

re: #13 obscured by clouds

I feel like we just lost the Cold War...in 2008.

We did. America elected a marxist.

15 Edouard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:14pm

He will be our president, and I respect the presidency of this great country.

But God save America.

16 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:20pm

Your sarcasm tag is missing.

17 Outrider  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:14:21pm

President Barack Obama
POLITICS %P% Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:10:15 pm PST

Barack Hussein Obama is the next President of the United States, and we extend our sincere congratulations.

Country first.

Good bye. Have fun.

18 Irene NYC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:12pm

I think I'll go moonbat: He's not my president.

19 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:16pm
20 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:17pm

Look! The ocean is going back down!

/

21 sadhu  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:19pm

onwards

22 nkca1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:30pm

Very very dissapointed. Soon the Americans will learn how bad of a choice they have made. Sad sad day.

23 Old Tanker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:31pm

fuckit, you win...don't screw it up to bad...

24 Archimedes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:33pm

Freedom First. This country is about freedom, not Obama.

25 lobo91  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:15:39pm

I think we've just witnessed the first late term abortion of a country.

26 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:11pm

re: #9 Soccermom

Actually, he's president-elect.

Actually, he's messiah-elect.

27 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:18pm

Just as I predicted;

Every network since the beginning of networks announces the President elect's full name, middle name included, when victory is clear.

Except for this time.

No one has the balls to say "President-elect Barack Hussein Obama." Incredible.

28 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:18pm

Can we say Hussein now?

29 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:27pm

Best we can hope for is that he doesn't fuck it up, and that maybe his ego is bigger than his ideology, like Hillary (as in, he'll play "moderate" to keep his approval up, rather than go straight Chavez right out of the gate).

I hope terrorists don't kill anybody I love.

Oh, and Barry? Tax your base first. They wanted you, they should have to pay for you.

30 nigella  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:29pm

Sorry, Charles, while I wish him no harm, I will not consider him my President. Ban me if you must , but that is my stance!

31 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:29pm

Charles are you going to be on PJ's TV?

32 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:30pm

I'm looking forward to "magical solutions", meeting with American enemies without preconditions, gas lines, and unemployment.

How about you guys?

33 Piglet-U93  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:36pm

Charles,

Who is we?

This is a sad day for America. I vote Present.

34 DesertSage  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:38pm

For the first time in my adult life I'm ashamed of my country!

35 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:44pm

Fuck him. Charlton Heston is my president.

36 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:54pm

seriously, what abt. acorn?
we know those fckers cheated in all the swing states.
wtf.
now that's not an issue.

37 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:16:55pm

Sucks to be Iraq, Israel, South Korea, and Taiwan right about now. Run up the white flag. Pass out candy in Gaza.

/pray that France doesn't demand the return of the Louisiana Purchase

38 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:21pm

So can I stop paying my mortgages now, or do I have to wait until Feb.?

39 ClosetConservative  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:30pm

re: #20 Ojoe

Yeah, hey, those oceans are receding, and we began to provide health care for the sick, and food for the needy, and... uhhh...

Ya know, I never thought I'd cry over an election. I'm a conservative. I'm supposed to be tough and hawkish and ballsy. But I hate to see my country go down this path. I worked to prevent it, and it happened anyway. Futile, futile, futile...

[Link: dingo.care2.com...]

40 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:32pm

As a public service we at Casa Reject would like to introduce the American public to some new terms which will become common in the next four years. These terms describe things that, until now, have been largely unknown in American culture...

Our first term: The "Perhaps Bag"

41 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:17:42pm

re: #28 FightingBack

Can we say Hussein now?

Until January. After that, it's blasphemy.

42 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:08pm

NO way to BO. Not me, not ever.

43 ArmyWife  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:17pm

I should be upset, I am really not. Maybe its the wine? I am seeing this as our chance, our opportunity to take back our party. But we have to do it, not talk about, not whine about it, get off our butts and DO IT.

We won't have the luxury of the media pointing out flaws, or making them up as the case may be, as the Dems did with Bush. Its up to us. He will screw up. People will say "oh what did we do". We must be there with the answer, and that is going back to what our founding father's designed. If we sit and wallow in self pity about this, we too will deserve what we get.

Night all. Its going to be ok, so long as we stick to our convictions.

44 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:23pm

We won NC

1,942,000
1,919,000

And it felt GOOD.
I can sleep tonight.

Thank God for the Tar Heel State and the fine Military men and women we have here.

Carolina basketball will also kick some asses.

45 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:18:34pm
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

So sorry, but it your fellow Republicans lost that fight tonight, Rev. King.

46 lobo91  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:04pm

re: #29 Pawn of the Oppressor

Oh, and Barry? Tax your base first. They wanted you, they should have to pay for you.

You can't get much tax revenue out of Cheetos and Mountain Dew, which are the only assets his "base" has.

47 fish  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:18pm

All Hail Dear Leader.

May Death come swiftly to his enemies.

(Practicing so that I can say it during furture mandatory rallies and book burnings)

48 kahn_mann  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:20pm

We're fucked

49 WinstonChurchill  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:23pm

And the Republic ends...not with a bang, but with a whimper. The shining city on the hill is no more.

50 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:33pm

it appears, PIMF

(repost from previous thread)

51 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:36pm

re: #31 Jetpilot1101

Charles are you going to be on PJ's TV?

Discussing it with them. Not tonight.

52 outsidephilly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:38pm

the origin of the material below may be attributed to Alexander Tytler, or even Arnold Toynbee, or Lord Thomas Macaulay.  Whoever can lay claim to the study of democracies that had existed until that time had remarkable conclusions.
He had this to say about democracy in general,
“A democracy is always temporary in nature: it simple cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
A democracy will continue to exist up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority will always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
 
Does this sound familiar?  With almost one-third of all Americans feeding at the public trough, its only a matter of time before everyone receives some form of benefit and henceforth, the entire country will crash and burn with most likely a military dictatorship filling the void.

The professor went on to say:
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
 
    From bondage to spiritual faith;
   From spiritual faith to great courage;
   From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
   From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependency back into bondage.”

53 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:19:49pm

I'm not going to pull the left's kind of immature crap and say he's not my president. He is, for better or worse.

I'm just glad it's all over. The whole thing has been emotionally exhausting, and it probably wasn't so healthy for me to be as obsessed with the campaign as I was.

54 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:08pm

When will the hammer & sickle get added to the flag?

55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:16pm

I pray for President Obama. I promise to remain a good American. So help me God.

56 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:24pm

Indeed, history was made tonight. I'd have preferred that we'd elected our first female VP, but alas, it was not so to be.

In the interest of "Country First", I'll congratulate Senator and President-elect Obama. Your grandmother would have been proud to see this day.

Our work as loyal opposition has just begun. Let's lock and load! (metaphorically, of course)

57 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:31pm

re: #39 ClosetConservative

The people who have been ignorant will now learn some lessons; there is no way for Obama to keep all his promises.

The office will be a rude awakening to Obama

Palin is young

Portae Inferi Non Praevalebunt

58 ClosetConservative  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:44pm

And Massachusetts is going deeper into the shitter than we already were. Proposition 2 to decriminalize possession of marijuana under an ounce passed. The campaign was run by George Soros out of California on the premise that being charged with possession was jailing people and ruining their lives.

FICTION: People in MA are getting jailed for possession of under 1 ounce.
FACT: According to the Suffolk DA, nobody has been jailed for possession of such an amount in over a decade.

FICTION: Such a charge is preventing people from getting jobs because it's on their criminal record.
FACT: In small possession cases, the record is sealed.

FICTION: 1 ounce of marijuana is a small amount.
FACT: It's about $600 street value and 50 joints.

59 spudly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:45pm

WOLVERINES!


;)

Got a call from a buddy without kids at the local Republican HQ, told him to yell that into the room and see who got the reference. It's that or saying, "I, for one, welcome my new communist masters!"

Let's make a concerted effort to make sure race is now off the table as an issue going forward, too.

60 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:20:49pm

re: #51 Charles

Discussing it with them. Not tonight.

Bummer, I would like to hear your thoughts on this turn of events.

61 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:07pm

he has stated his intentions. most are terrible for our country.
people just refused to believe him.
what will the coal miners say when the whistle doesn't blow anymore?

62 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:08pm

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I pray for President Obama. I promise to remain a good American. So help me God.

I pray for the United States of America

President Obama is on his own...

63 pete(detroit)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:12pm

Awww SHIT!
NOOOoo
(Running up and down hallways, bouncing off walls 'Home Alone' style..)
Crud.
NOW what?
(other than organize the counter vote/revolution)

64 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:23pm

Goodnight, Earth. It's been swell fighting to keep a portion of you free for the past nearly a century.

65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:28pm

95% of American's are about to be sincerely pissed.

66 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:21:56pm

And the Ohio deficit continues to shrink, btw.

67 hermeneutics  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:00pm

I'm getting my children dual citizenship in Chile. Its over.

My family has been in this country since 1650. And now we're seriously contemplating leaving.

Obama is not worthy of the White House. He bought the election. The MSM is complicit in his election. He came to power through fraud, ACORN, lies and deception.

Sorry, I cannot congraduate him on his election. He wasn't elected.

68 pegcity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:01pm

so how long before dissent becomes illegal, how long until the detention camps are up and running?

69 NYRANGER  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:01pm

Its F'kn pandamonium on the streets of the Upper West Side.

70 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:04pm

re: #32 Sharmuta

I'm looking forward to "magical solutions", meeting with American enemies without preconditions, gas lines, and unemployment.

How about you guys?

I'm looking forward to a big fat fuck you to everyone who thinks we're all getting free unicorns that shit rainbows. I'll be doing just fine, thank you, while 51% of America scratches its ass and wonder what the hell happened.

71 Bumr50  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:08pm

It's now up to us to get conservatism together. If we can keep people fifty percent as engaged as they have been for the past three months, in four years we can TRULY be the maverick party.
I just took an emotional trip back in time and remembered how lousy of a candidate I thought John McCain was, and sans Sarah Palin he really didn't change my mind.
I'm a glass is half full kind of guy. Hopefully my half doesn't get redistributed.

72 Metal Man  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:29pm

Without winter there is no summer.

Without pain there is no pleasure.

It had to happen to keep the balance. Yeah it's stupid but if I can't make some sense of it I might just give up.

73 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:32pm

"Hell in a hand basket."

Quote by Me.

74 Old Tanker  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:36pm

re: #38 CyanSnowHawk

Sweet, I'm looking for my bailout now!

75 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:43pm

I bet he has a nice painting of Che Guevera picked out for the Oval Office.

76 Bumr50  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:46pm

re: #43 ArmyWife

Ditto.

77 I need a bigger gun  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:56pm

Our attitude may be "country first", but the president-elect's attitude is decidely not "country first", at least not THIS country.

78 Fried Spam  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:22:56pm

People, don't despair. Without a Jimmy Carter, would Ronald Reagan have been able to do so much and so well? Without a Bill Clinton, would the contract with America have been able to happen?

We need to transform the GOP and turn it from a mush-mouthed pseudo conservative party into a real conservative party.

Fight on! Flood the phone banks of the house and senate whenever the wrong legislation comes up in the next 2 years.

But, remember, this is our country, and Obama will be the next president. We don't like it and didn't want that to happen, but make sure that we are a loyal opposition.

Strong loyalty to the country, and strong opposition to the wrong policies.

79 shivas  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:04pm

While I think America just made possibly the biggest mistake in its history, I wish President-Elect Barrack Hussien Obama well. Please govern wisely.

And God help us...

80 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:08pm

NOOOooo!

/cheesy Anakin Skywalker impression

81 allah this  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:14pm

God help America.

82 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:16pm

My Lord, is he going to win Missouri?

83 spudly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:21pm

I should add that I'm in the "he's my President" camp as well. I will feel completely free to attack him and his policies in all appropriate ways (voting, campaign contributions, etc). That said, if some furriner talks smack, or acts as if we are divided, they can pound sand. This is internal, American business.

84 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:32pm

Eternal vigilance.

We must now be more vigilant, more active, more vocal to control a one party government.

85 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:45pm

re: #70 doppelganglander

I'm looking forward to a big fat fuck you to everyone who thinks we're all getting free unicorns that shit rainbows. I'll be doing just fine, thank you, while 51% of America scratches its ass and wonder what the hell happened.

LOL

in about 3 months.

86 Muadib  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:49pm

Marxism is wrong. Freedom is waning. Time to fight harder and get it back. Adapt, improvise, and overcome.

87 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:23:51pm
88 Racer X  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:04pm

Congratulations to Barack Obama.

89 notutopia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:04pm

Knuckle up Fellow Lizards. We' re for and in America for the long haul.
Presidents come and go, we are the force that makes America the great country that it is. And that what it will become.
Stay strong, stay loyal for America.

90 PattiO  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:05pm

Fox just had a close-up of Jesse Jackson crying. I'm sure he was thinking...damn I'm out of a frickin' job!

91 digger12291970  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:21pm

Let the countdown begin. Country first. But they will never stop our voices.

92 Random_Lizard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:31pm

Should I plan on moving? Where can I move to where they would not have problems with a Conservative American? Is there anywhere safe in this world?

93 Globular Cluster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:32pm

re: #11 nyc redneck

and now the tears rolling down my face.

Aw cut the shit. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

94 AmericanPoliticalOrphan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:42pm

F___ this - stolen - voter fraud - acorn wins - lock and load - to the mattresses I say. Wake me up when it's over.

95 Jefiner  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:43pm

Nothing will ever convince me that this person nothing but a worthless, self serving Marxist piece of crap who got what he had by exploiting white guilt and throwing everyone who ever meant anything to him under the bus.

He's my President. But I spit on him, and everything he stands for.

The Republic will endure.

96 solomonpanting  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:44pm

1. Barack Hussein Obama is the next President of the United States, and we extend our sincere congratulations.

2. Country first.

Oxymoron

97 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:45pm

As much as I tried to hold on to my belief that Mac could whip the Kos Kid Kool Aid Kommunist Kook Klub™, Looks like it's a good time to throw on some Southern Culture on the Skids - and here's an appropriate track: It's All Over But the Shoutin'"

98 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:45pm

There are bound to be serious challenges coming up in the next four years, with all sorts of unforeseen consequences. The likelihood is great that Obama will find himself in way over his head, and he may screw up massively. Pride goeth before a fall...

99 Junior  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:52pm

The Lord is Sovereign and He has placed Obama in this position for His own Will and Purposes. It may be for bad, it may be for good. It may be for reward, it may be for punishment. It may be for testing and trail.

The Lord is still on the throne!

100 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:58pm

re: #53 neocon hippie

I agree completely. At least its over. For that I'm grateful.

101 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:24:58pm

re: #37 Killian Bundy

Sucks to be Iraq, Israel, South Korea, and Taiwan right about now. Run up the white flag. Pass out candy in Gaza.

/pray that France doesn't demand the return of the Louisiana Purchase

Killgore Trout is passing out strawberries..

102 Racer X  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:17pm

John McCain giving his concession speech. Classy guy.

103 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:25pm

I will be respectful and not call him names like they did to Bush. I will call him Mr. Obama, or Barack Obama, or simply
Obama.

The words "President Obama" will never come out of my mouth.

104 mnkaren  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:31pm

Fun times to look forward to in the Midwest in winter when I'm heating my house with wind and solar power

105 right_wing2  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:34pm

WASS

We Are So Screwed

Kiss America goodbye.

Lizards, prepare to report for re-education

106 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:40pm

Mac is blubbering about his family.

107 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:52pm

re: #80 Dar ul Harb

And in keeping with awful Lucasfilm references, the Iranians are standing by for their cue to "nuke the refrigerator."

108 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:55pm

re: #67 hermeneutics

I'm getting my children dual citizenship in Chile. Its over.

My family has been in this country since 1650. And now we're seriously contemplating leaving.

Obama is not worthy of the White House. He bought the election. The MSM is complicit in his election. He came to power through fraud, ACORN, lies and deception.

Sorry, I cannot congraduate him on his election. He wasn't elected.

My husband and children qualify for Irish citizenship. I'll give it a couple of years before making a decision, but it's looking mighty good right now.

109 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:56pm

Well .. great ... gunshots are going off now ... near the Obama headquarters ... do you think the police will come ... No ...but I bet they are giving out candy somewhere ...I am sick...cash and bartering will be in my future as much as possible ... because MEchelle ... I will never give you any more of my pie ..I give 10% to my church ...I will not give any more ...I pay my taxes .. I employ over 60 people ... but that number may be smaller now ... you choose an anti-American candidate ..I will never not support America no matter who is the President ... but I will not give any more ...I will only give what is the bare minimum ...I choose ...you do not ... what I will do with my money ... I pray for Israel ...how many true friends do we have ...they will come ... Sharia law is making its way across the world ... when will it come to us ...it will never come to my farms ...

110 hermeneutics  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:25:58pm

re: #92 Random_Lizard

Should I plan on moving? Where can I move to where they would not have problems with a Conservative American? Is there anywhere safe in this world?

Yes.

Maybe its time to start seriously talking secession. There's just got to be a safe place somewhere for libertarians.

111 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:11pm

re: #78 Fried Spam

LMAO! Yeah right! I tell people to get involved, and I get blank stares or told I should look at a different party.

The sad fucking truth is republicans are fucking quitters.

112 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:12pm

Nope, you guys are finished.
Sorry.
Don't worry- we're all finished. Isn't comforting to be in the same sinking boat together?
God damn the man.

113 Irene NYC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:13pm

Plenty of people with plenty of money backed BHO. Wall Street, by a plurality, backed BHO. I'll never understand that.

114 victor_yugo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:17pm

re: #45 Dar ul Harb

So sorry, but it your fellow Republicans lost that fight tonight, Rev. King.

The memory of Dr. King just got stabbed in the back by Jesse Jackson's horde of hate.

115 I need a bigger gun  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:23pm

Buyer's remorse will set in very quickly...

116 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:24pm

How is the Country to survive when half of it's citizens are idiots?

117 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:25pm

Guess I will be buying some guns and ammo tomorrow.

118 DeKalb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:28pm

I still am not ready to give up. BHO needs Virginia and Ohio, and much of Ohio hasn't reported. The Panhandle is still out in Florida. And BHO needs to crack the Rocky Mountain West. He may get New Mexico but I think Colorado and Nevada can hold.

119 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:30pm

Our country's going to need a lot of prayers.

120 ClosetConservative  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:34pm

I'll never stop being proud of my country, but I hope someone wrests this nation out of Obama's hands before we really get effed over.

121 CommonCents  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:37pm

You can respect the office if not the man. He is my next President barring any pre-inauguration discoveries that would prohibit such. Not what I wanted but I'm not about to lower myself to the useless tool status the left has been running around like since 2000.

122 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:40pm

Don't give the lefties anything, people.

It's time to be gracious.

123 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:47pm

Millions of Americans voted for yet another "holiday from history" tonight.

They've either forgotten or are oblivious to the fact that history doesn't take holidays.

124 SeafoodGumbo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:47pm
we extend our sincere congratulations.


Fuck that. He gets no congratulations from me.

125 gumble  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:26:54pm

Jihadists around the world are crying today... crying tears of joy.

126 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:00pm

Well, now American students will know what those growing up in recovering former satellites of the Soviet Union already know: the promises of socialism are hollow, the deification of it's leaders is vacuous idolatry, and it generally sucks to be them.

But as they say, a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. This is going to prime the pump for a massive conservative take over.

Assuming we can still vote in a few years.

127 Jamie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:17pm

Mazel tov, President-elect Obama.

128 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:19pm

I just went out and checked my gas tank...

IT'S STILL EMPTY!

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:27pm

Shameless freakin' repost:

No matter the final outcome, this is still America, and I am still an American. I will do what Americans do, and have always done: stand strong for America and the ideals it embodies, no matter how much the odds seem stacked against us.

Ahhh! Fuck this doom and gloom shit! I'm gonna watch this flick again, and get fired up to deal with whatever tomorrow brings.

AMERI-CANS! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION!

130 secsailor  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:30pm

re: #34 DesertSage

For the first time in my adult life I'm ashamed of my country!

Actually this is the second time I'm ashamed of my country. The first was when Clinton's approval ratings shot up to 70% when the Monica affair came to light.

131 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:30pm

This is Stockholm syndrome on a national level. Plain and simple.

132 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:38pm

test

133 Tisto  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:40pm

re: #57 Ojoe

Rumors are that the "lowering of expectations" will be starting on Wednesday.

Oops! Say, we just noticed that the economy is terrible... I can't give you everything you were promised...

134 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:46pm
135 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:46pm

McCain didn't lose the election- the KGB and Al-Queda won.

136 Percopius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:48pm

I hope we as a country prosper and are safe during his term. I hope President Obama leads well. God Bless America.

137 DistantThunder  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:27:52pm

It's the OJ verdict all over again - even his own lawyers were astonished - now where are those lawyers - where is OJ?

138 Max Darkside  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:04pm

I don't know if I want to state my prognosis in the near term for Israel/Iran conflict while Bush is still in office... so I won't (there, the coloring book lines are drawn for you)

139 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:10pm

So, is Michelle 0bama proud of her country for the 2nd time in her life?

140 Ayatrollah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:12pm

Congrats Obama. Now when we call you a scumbag it has nothing to do with racisim, it has do do with your lousy ideas.

141 Wookieelips  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:26pm

Charles is right.

I'm so sick of the hate. I will not hate 0bama (not that I'll refraim completely from poking fun or criticising). Hatred is the game of the moonbats, and I'm tired of it.
Congrats, 0bama. Don't fuck it up for all the other black people that may follow you to become President.
Seriously, try really hard not to...

142 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:34pm

Norm Coleman leads Franken buy 7000 votes. Only about 30% of precincts reporting.

143 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:50pm

Things looking like crap in WA.

Nov 04, 2008 - 20:21:39
17% of vote counted

Christine Gregoire*(D)
266,269 votes
51% of vote

Dino Rossi (R)
251,820 votes
49% of vote

I-1000 Lethal Prescriptions
Nov 04, 2008 - 20:22:32
17% of vote counted

APPROVE
308,735 votes
57% of vote

REJECT
229,059 votes
43% of vote

144 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:28:51pm

re: #126 RedWhiteAndJew

Assuming we can still vote in a few years.

Shut up already, you sound like those asshats predicting that W would declare martial law and stop the election.

145 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:04pm
We've been kicking other peoples asses for so long I figured it's time we got ours kicked.

/SSgt Elias

146 Salem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:08pm

re: #32 Sharmuta

I'm looking forward to "magical solutions", meeting with American enemies without preconditions, gas lines, and unemployment.

How about you guys?

I, for one, have appreciated your optimism the last couple of months. I don't blame you for letting it slip for a moment, under the circumstances.

Dems have been in the majority before. They always manage to piss people off, in the end. Hopefully, they won't be able to do much damage with the two years they have a lock.

147 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:10pm

re: #99 Junior

The Lord is Sovereign and He has placed Obama in this position for His own Will and Purposes. It may be for bad, it may be for good. It may be for reward, it may be for punishment. It may be for testing and trail.

The Lord is still on the throne!

I don't believe in collective punishment.

148 ajackson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:17pm

Congratulations to President-elect Obama on this victory. As for those of us now in the opposition, heed the words of Winston Churchill: Never give in — never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. And start work to take back the Congress in 2010.

149 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:24pm

re: #103 mama winger

I will be respectful and not call him names like they did to Bush. I will call him Mr. Obama, or Barack Obama, or simply
Obama.

The words "President Obama" will never come out of my mouth.

You and me both Mama!

150 1AmeriCAN  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:25pm

Finally with a Democratic Congress and Democratic President we will have no excuses for complete success and President BO can keep all of his promises he made to be elected. Looking forward to 4 years of bliss and success.

Also as a low income family - I and 10 million other families will be looking for the $1K check we were promised too! (when do we get those?)

Thanks!

151 Obama/Olbermann 08  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:29pm

Oh crap, what do we do now?

152 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:37pm

For the second time in her life, Michelle is proud of her country.

153 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:43pm

I just hope it is only 0bama supporters in the cities that get nuked, but it won't be.
And I wonder if I'll be able to walk in some parts of this country openly as a Jew, with kippa and tzitzit.
Or maybe a yellow star will make it OK.

154 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:44pm

Um- Ohio deficit is still shrinking.

155 Florida Lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:48pm

re: #117 non-lib Nina

Guess I will be buying some guns and ammo tomorrow.

You got it. Same here!

156 Muadib  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:29:52pm

re: #92 Random_Lizard

Should I plan on moving? Where can I move to where they would not have problems with a Conservative American? Is there anywhere safe in this world?

Stay and fight.

"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." - Chesty Puller

157 SummerSong  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:01pm

Maybe tomorrow. Tonight, I mourn.

158 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:02pm

Now Franken leads by 9000 votes. It's neck and neck. Gonna be a squeaker.

159 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:04pm

This is how I am feeling right now.

160 dreaboi  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:10pm

Gunshots or fireworks going off every 30 seconds here in my DC 'transitional' neighborhood.
The only "Change" so far is the frequency of discharge.

161 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:16pm

re: #147 doppelganglander

I don't believe in collective punishment.

Not even a spanking at Castle Anthrax?
/

162 jtm371  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:24pm

re: #88 Racer X

fuck that!

163 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:27pm

re: #18 Irene NYC

I think I'll go moonbat: He's not my president.

I agree. He bought the presidency illegally. No credit card checks, ACORN etc.

I'm very sorry, this is unacceptable.

164 FortunateSon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:28pm

Hey Lizards. I know you're not happy. Damn straight I'm not. We're all very emotional right now. Hell, I'm in Ann Arbor Michigan and I have to deal with the O-bots running up and down the hall of my dorm SCREAMING like savages. Who knew mindless zombies could run so fast? And people outside screaming. And my parents said via phone they hear gunfire (from Detroit). But at least Jesse Jackson will have to shut his race-baiting trap (like he actually will, heh).

But I have three questions if you would be so kind as to answer; maybe they will help take your mind off things:

1. I was supposed to by an AR-15 carbine from my cousin before he left for Iraq again. Long story short, missed my chance and won't be able to buy it until he returns, after sometime after the Assumption. That is, if he decides to sell it. Should I drop the money on a new one? Cost difference is not substantial. I consider it an investment, anyway.

2. Anyone here an economist/know any economists? I am strongly considering switching from an engineering major to economics. The election is not really a factor in this, I have been mulling it over for quite some time. I would love to fight the fight for classical liberal economics-if it isn't killed entirely by this liberal mandate from heaven. Opinions?

3. Any advice on how to striptease? My girlfriend, a fairly moderate Obama supporter, bet me a striptease if McCain won. I have no idea how to do such a thing. Damn it.

Things will feel better in the morning. And as we know, it's all about how we feel, not what is, right?

165 RoughRider  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:40pm

re: #98 neocon hippie

The likelihood is great that Obama will find himself in way over his head, and he may screw up massively.

Maybe he can ask someone in a higher pay grade what to do.

166 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:40pm

Wonder if Obama gave McCain the finger when he was talking to him on the phone?

167 see bs  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:45pm

My fellow lizards,

I fear that bigger government will intrude on our lives in the next 4 years. I fear that civil liberties will be cut for those that don't toe the Obama line. Government will determine what the pursuit of Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. The fairness doctrine will curtail free speech, The right to own fire arms will disappear into a "home guard". Wealth, hard earned money, will be redistributed.

That is...unless we stand up and keep the good fight going. Not to submit our beliefs, the rights of the individual and to become subservient to the Government.

My friends, I hope, I pray im wrong. I hope this is the peak of Obama’s popularity and that his socialist goals do not come true.

I hope for a conservative revolution, eyes opening to the threat of an all controlling government and that it does not, it can not, it will not work.

I hope in 4 years that the country can wake up to the mess that happened tonight. That the BDS and the democrat mantra of blaming other people will not work and will not last.

I look foreword to the “Change” of presidents 4 years form now.

Never Surrender.

168 Kiernan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:51pm

McCain is conceding as I type this.

I think we have to look on the bright side.
If you have lived long enough, you realize that the ship of state doesn't turn on a dime.

I think we as loyal Americans must congratulate the first African-American president and try to realize the historic significance of this event.

Voter turnout was very high and young people and minorities were especially enthusiastic. I just heard on CNN that "forty percent on the millennial generation are minorities." America will go forward with a renewed
spirit. But of course that doesn't mean you should agree with everything the
Democratic party wants to do.

I am glad the head lizard has extend his congratulations on our behalf.

169 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:30:53pm

re: #142 Griffon

Norm Coleman leads Franken buy 7000 votes. Only about 30% of precincts reporting.

/well, that's a tin lining, got a linky?

170 PattiO  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:31:02pm

What the hell was up with McCain's concession speech? When did they write that, last week? It went on forever, he sounded like the big pussy he's been throughout this entire campaign. I'm starting to believe the conspiracy theory that he took a dive.

171 outsidephilly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:31:31pm

re: #103 mama winger

I will be respectful and not call him names like they did to Bush. I will call him Mr. Obama, or Barack Obama, or simply
Obama.

The words "President Obama" will never come out of my mouth.

I with you on this.
I posted this at the top of this thread:
the origin of the material below may be attributed to Alexander Tytler, or even Arnold Toynbee, or Lord Thomas Macaulay. Whoever can lay claim to the study of democracies that had existed until that time had remarkable conclusions.

He had this to say about democracy in general,
“A democracy is always temporary in nature: it simple cannot exist as a permanent form of government.
A democracy will continue to exist up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority will always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

Does this sound familiar? With almost one-third of all Americans feeding at the public trough, its only a matter of time before everyone receives some form of benefit and henceforth, the entire country will crash and burn with most likely a military dictatorship filling the void.

The professor went on to say:
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependency back into bondage.”

172 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:31:38pm

re: #92 Random_Lizard

Should I plan on moving? Where can I move to where they would not have problems with a Conservative American? Is there anywhere safe in this world?

I just looked out the window. Country's still there, and it's still the finest place on the planet. Resolve to make yourself a collossal pain in the asses of your representatives, so they can't ignore you. Shoot, we were going to have to be vigilant with McCain anyway.

173 Kragar  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:31:47pm

The O is for Obstruct, which is what I plan to do.

Country first, despite Obama.

174 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:31:58pm

Well I just explained to my kitty that under Obama's plan 40% of his 9 Lives Cat Food will be going to the mutt next door, 49% of his cuddles will be with me under his favorite comforter, and his arch nemisis (the psycho kitty that likes claw my hands to shreds) will be in control of the State Department and psycho kitty will be in favor of all the psychotic middle eastern governments that want to claw us to shreds

175 NamesAGame  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:03pm

Well, even if the Left can preen for a while, the victory isn't as complete as they may think. This republic is much stronger than their agenda.

God bless us. I sincerely hope President Obama will lead us successfully in the next 4 years.

Sarah Palin in 2012!

176 jtm371  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:04pm

would it be wrong when i put my flag up tomorrow to fly it upside down? just asking.

177 kaiser  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:19pm

This sucks. Think of all the moonbats moving back from Canada and France now. Ugh.

178 Wishing  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:29pm

re: #101 twincitiesgirl

Killgore Trout is passing out strawberries..

I give Killgore Trout the strawberry.

179 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:46pm

re: #154 Sharmuta

Um- Ohio deficit is still shrinking.

Even if Ohio flips is not enough.

McCain can have OH, FL and everything from the Mississippi to the coast states. It's still not enough.

Current EC count (old)
Obama 220 McCain 135.

Flip OH's 27 (still slim chance)
O 193 M 162

CA, OR, WA are a given to O 73 ECV.
O 266

HI is puts to O 270.

Not gonna' happen.

180 Randall Gross  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:46pm

My congratulations to our new President Elect, Barack Obama. Only in America could this election have happened, and it does speak to the greatness of this country. I hope you serve the country well, and that you fullfill the promise of the many great speeches you made. I hope you remember that first and foremost you serve all Americans, and those are certainly big shoes to fill. I’ve seen that onerous burden prematurely age several presidents in my lifetime, so you have my support and my best wishes for success.

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

181 hermeneutics  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:50pm

Secession.

182 solomonpanting  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:52pm

Congratulations to Obama. He deserves everything he accomplished and everything to come his way...
...
.../

183 Obama/Olbermann 08  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:59pm

Help us, Senator Biden, you're our only Hope!

184 Racer X  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:32:59pm

This is a historic accomplishment that will inspire many young people. He is not my choice but I will respect the office he has won. I wish him only the best. May he live a long and prosperous life, having served only one term as president.

185 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:01pm

re: #144 CyanSnowHawk

Shut up already, you sound like those asshats predicting that W would declare martial law and stop the election.

Except W didn't call for a 250,000 civilian "security" force...

186 mayor of imaginationland  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:04pm

re: #116 newsjunkie_ky

There is a saying that my parents would always tell me:
Chamishim Achuz...

50%...

50% of the population is below average just remember that

187 Davida  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:04pm

re: #122 Charles

Could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

The sting is awful fresh right this minute for me...

188 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:08pm

re: #49 WinstonChurchill

And the Republic ends...not with a bang, but with a whimper. The shining city on the hill is no more.

I think it would be an appropriate time to take a moment and say a prayer for Mrs. Reagan, especially in light of her recent health issues. I can't begin to imagine what is going through that dear lady's mind. Thankfully, as is the case with my Grandparents (coming up on a whole 20 years now), perhaps it's better that the Gipper has already moved on to a far better place.

189 astronmr20  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:09pm

re: #61 nyc redneck

he has stated his intentions. most are terrible for our country.
people just refused to believe him.
what will the coal miners say when the whistle doesn't blow anymore?

They should tar and feather their stupid fucking union bosses.

190 transient  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:10pm

A few thoughts...

Looking for a silver lining: I am glad the outcome is decisive and will not be disputed in the courts. The court should not be deciding our elections for us.

Even though the electoral map looks decisive, current vote distribution is very close, which tells you the country is still almost evenly divided. Reps, if they are organized, can take things back.

On the half full/half empty category: if the Dems have a majority in both House and Senate, they are likely to go overboard, setting the stage for Rep gains in 2 years.

I hope Obama performs better than expected vis a vis Israel and the Middle East, or things will get very ugly very soon. I'm wondering what effect an Obama victory will have on Israel's elections. Are Israelis more likely to vote Likud, reasoning that Israel will need someone firm to stand up to pressure from Obama?

I think Obama adulation will start to die down once he is in office and making actual decisions. There is no way he can live up to the inflated expectations of those who have projected every dream onto him. In reality there is only so much a president can do, and despite the aura, he can't walk on water or multiply loaves and fishes.

191 Osama Bin Porkchop  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:16pm

God help us and God help Israel,Iraq,South Korea, and Afghanistan...

192 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:17pm

re: #110 hermeneutics

Yes.

Maybe its time to start seriously talking secession. There's just got to be a safe place somewhere for libertarians.

I am sorry Herm.

I have to strongly disagree.

Talk of secession is talk of surrender.

No surrender. Not now. Not ever.

Besides, talking about secession is just crazy talk. It will only make us look goofy.

We will be all right.

Have courage. Your friends and your children will need you to show them how to survive in the world that is to come.

We will be all right.

193 wiffersnapper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:19pm

Hussein: America's Epic Fail.

See you in 2012! Palin/Romney!

194 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:22pm

re: #88 Racer X

Congratulations to Barack Obama.

Like they say, if you can't upding, don't ding at all.

195 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:27pm

Country First

Believe me, America's going to need some level heads in these years.

At least we don't have to find out what the 'or else' was.

196 deanayer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:29pm

..oh god please dont let Al Franken become a senator - thats my only consolation prize after Murtha's rednecks and racists reelected him. If Al becomes a senator which horsemen of the apocalypse will he be again? I cant keep them straight, its not pestilence...its right on the tip of my tongue...a little help here please.

197 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:33pm

re: #61 nyc redneck

he has stated his intentions. most are terrible for our country.
people just refused to believe him.
what will the coal miners say when the whistle doesn't blow anymore?

who cares? they knew and voted for him anyway... all these morons are going to get what they deserve and i hope they get it good and hard.

it will serve them right. i will enjoy every last outraged squeal and complaint and laugh at their pain and suffering, while pointing out with glee that it's their fault and it's their president that's hosing them.

he sure as hell isn't mine, and enjoying their pain will be about the only thing that takes my mind off mine.

198 SummerSong  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:35pm

re: #11 nyc redneck

and now the tears rolling down my face.

{Redneck} You are not alone.

199 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:42pm

My daughter just called and wants to move to Australia and wants me to go. Huh, maybe I will now?

200 warnergt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:45pm

Not in my name.

201 Cartman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:47pm

That's it for me here at LGF. Time to spend my energies elsewhere. It's been an experience, to say the least. As Realwest would say, maybe I'll catch y'all somewhere on down the road, the Good Lord willing. Carry on, and God Bless America. Stay safe, folks.

202 Edouard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:49pm

Anyone want to start a Sorry, Israel site?

203 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:33:57pm

re: #134 winston06

Abolish Affirmative Action...

This is a very sad day for America. The most inexperienced Marxist radical takes over a great country... I feel horrible

They will never take over our country.
To many good men and women have stood on that wall for freedom.

Many of them voted for him tonight.

but I can assure you if he, Peloski, Reed ever tries to fuck with us,
we will fire most of their asses in two years if not sooner.

204 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:00pm

re: #170 PattiO

What the hell was up with McCain's concession speech? When did they write that, last week? It went on forever, he sounded like the big pussy he's been throughout this entire campaign. I'm starting to believe the conspiracy theory that he took a dive.

Go Fuck-yourself.

205 DistantThunder  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:01pm

The Misery Index is inextricably interwoven with the history of Jimmy Carter - and now we are going to bring it back - just in time.

Ironically, we are and will do very well during this down turn, due to the type of business we run - business is already up - and we will save our money and not buy chinese crap - and not pay the sales taxes.

206 pete(detroit)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:02pm

re: #99 Junior

The Lord is Sovereign and He has placed Obama in this position for His own Will and Purposes. It may be for bad, it may be for good. It may be for reward, it may be for punishment. It may be for testing and trail.

The Lord is still on the throne!

So, you're saying he actually *is* the anti-Christ?

207 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:03pm

re: #122 Charles

Don't give the lefties anything, people.

It's time to be gracious.

It's going to be an interesting four years.

208 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:16pm

re: #105 right_wing2

WASS

We Are So Screwed

Kiss America goodbye.

Lizards, prepare to report for re-education

Molan Labe!

209 LadyBehir  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:22pm

I do NOT understand why politicians conceed before the votes are counted! The military and absentee votes have not been counted and has Hawaii closed yet? Ohio is too close, NC is, VA is, FL is all of them could flip it. WTF?

210 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:22pm

Somehow, this cartoon isn't as funny as it was yesterday:

Welcome Back, Carter

211 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:24pm
Shut up already, you sound like those asshats predicting that W would declare martial law and stop the election.

Hmm. The party that will now have virtually unrestrained power has on its agenda a law which will make voting on the issue of admitting labor unions a farce.

This election was tainted with widespread voter fraud, frequently aided by government officials.

People still get to vote in totalitarian regimes, it's just that their votes don't really count.

212 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:31pm

re: #93 Globular Cluster

Aw cut the shit. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

i intend to prepare. you rude jerk.

213 wiffersnapper  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:35pm

Not my president

214 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:47pm

Say your prayers.

215 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:49pm

Major Garret just gushed about how happy Europe will be

216 Dripping Sarcasm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:34:58pm

Country First. I like that, Charles.

How sad that, in those two words, you've already said something that our president-elect, his "finally proud of her country" wife, his bomb-throwing, unrepentant domestic terrorist buddy, and his spiritual mentor have ever been able to say.

When Obama says, "country first" maybe he means Germany, since he seemed so happy to campaign there.

217 bosforus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:05pm

Congrats, Obama.
...with that out of the way...

218 Diane  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:11pm

Charles, you are gracious.

I am concerned for all the good work done so far in the Middle East, it feels like hopes for democracy are not the hope we can count on anymore.

McCain was just such a very special candidate, I will miss listening to him.

219 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:18pm

re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The O is for Obstruct, which is what I plan to do.

Country first, despite Obama.

CONSTITUTION FIRST will be my motto. I fear for the integrity of that document.

220 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:20pm

re: #103 mama winger

I will be respectful and not call him names like they did to Bush. I will call him Mr. Obama, or Barack Obama, or simply
Obama.

The words "President Obama" will never come out of my mouth.

i will never call him president either. not possible.

221 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:22pm

re: #176 jtm371

would it be wrong when i put my flag up tomorrow to fly it upside down? just asking.

Fly it high, fly it proud.
Fly the Gadsden flag underneath the American Flag.

222 Gus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:26pm

Well, it's finally over. 2 more months of Bush and then we wait.

/Spinning wheels.

223 wong fei hung  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:31pm

G*d help America.

-WFH

224 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:48pm

re: #164 FortunateSon

2. Anyone here an economist/know any economists? I am strongly considering switching from an engineering major to economics. The election is not really a factor in this, I have been mulling it over for quite some time. I would love to fight the fight for classical liberal economics-if it isn't killed entirely by this liberal mandate from heaven. Opinions?

3. Any advice on how to striptease? My girlfriend, a fairly moderate Obama supporter, bet me a striptease if McCain won. I have no idea how to do such a thing. Damn it.

Switching majors might be a good idea. There may be a lot of experienced Engineers looking for work in the next few years. Depends on The Messiah's defense budgets.

On the strip tease, go for some unusual underwear, that should distract attention from the awkward movement.

225 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:56pm

re: #176 jtm371

would it be wrong when i put my flag up tomorrow to fly it upside down? just asking.

/yes, unless you're truly in distress and need immediate assistance

226 warnergt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:35:57pm

Here's hoping that the pendulum will start swinging the other way. I suspect another Clinton-like scandal-ridden administration. Maybe the electorate will be sick of Democrats in four years.

227 spirochete  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:02pm

Right on cue, a tunnel was discovered leading from a civilian home in Gaza, sixty rockets fired into Israel from Gaza, retaliation by Israel...

The ME will go apeshit starting right now...

228 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:06pm

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

It's going to be an interesting four years.

Yup- EVERY... F*CKING... THING... that goes wrong will be the fault of the DEMOCRATS!

I expect the MSM will be particularly silent...

229 NamesAGame  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:06pm

re: #186 mayor of imaginationland

There is a saying that my parents would always tell me:
Chamishim Achuz...

What's that mean in Goyish? ;-)

230 CommonCents  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:07pm

re: #92 Random_Lizard

Should I plan on moving? Where can I move to where they would not have problems with a Conservative American? Is there anywhere safe in this world?

Don't leave, that will just make it more difficult in 2 and 4 years. If all the libs that went cuckoo after 2004 had followed through on their threats of abandoning the country this would have been a conservative sweep. Instead they lied, stayed, and conned a few more million half wits into following them into the abyss. It may be a painful 4 years upcoming, but pain builds character and teaches lessons.

We'll be back.

231 Metal Man  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:21pm

Charles,

Maybe the first thread tomorrow could be a place to graciously concede victory to Obama but tonight I just can't.

232 Richard Romano  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:25pm

God bless Senator Obama -- I don't agree with anything he espouses, but we have to be impressed by this achievement. He'll need our prayers and support.

Jindal-Cuda 2012!

233 BeyondBrooklyn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:25pm

I can't imagine that being POTUS is easy - I truly hope he can handle it.
Having said that, Congratulations Senator Obama. I also hope you prove all of your critics wrong.

234 nigella  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:46pm

Frankly Charles, I appreciate all you do for us in an atmosphere of extreme prejudice against Conservatives in the media. That being said I don't care tonight what the left wing thinks about me. I'm profoundly disappointed I'm my fellow Americans and I am not the least bit interested in getting along.! Ban me if you like, but I believe it is in the best interests of America to dissent!

235 killerjoe  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:48pm

this pos might be your president, but he is not mine. I will never, ever give my support to the nazi dems. I will give them what they gave us.

236 freetoken  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:36:57pm

re: #180 Thanos

I’ve seen that onerous burden prematurely age several presidents in my lifetime, so you have my support and my best wishes for success.

Suspect he will age quickly as the crises pile up, especially when he discovers that even his own party in Congress won't do his biding when they would rather serve their own self-interests.

237 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:05pm

re: #122 Charles

Don't give the lefties anything, people.

It's time to be gracious.

I will show my gratitude to the MSM that precipitated this.

238 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:10pm

I'm giving up on Fox. Krauthammer says the Pres-elect is a "self made man."
And Brit says "We sure like him!"

239 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:17pm

re: #177 kaiser

This sucks. Think of all the moonbats moving back from Canada and France now. Ugh.

Countries with a more right-leaning heads of state than an 0bama white house, ironically...

240 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:29pm

re: #103 mama winger

I will be respectful and not call him names like they did to Bush. I will call him Mr. Obama, or Barack Obama, or simply
Obama.

The words "President Obama" will never come out of my mouth.

I kind of like the nic the Big O, it has a certain panache to it. Seriously though, I am very happy that a black man was finally elected POTUS. It saddens me more than words can express that he had to be that man. That's why I will be praying for him daily--especially for wisdom. I am dead serious about this.

241 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:32pm

re: #198 SummerSong

{Redneck} You are not alone.

i'm ok, i was laughing and crying at the same time.
i mean wtf is going on? it is so ludicrous, so insane .

242 hermeneutics  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:35pm

re: #192 Syrah
Syrah,

I respect you and dearly like you ... but secession is NOT surrender but rather it is pursuing a vision of individual freedom and comity.

Why stand on a sinking ship? Jump to shore, Syrah. Create a new country.

243 Salem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:39pm

HEY OBAMA! LEGALIZE IT, MON!

244 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:39pm

Charles,

Will you be adding Obama to the spell checker?

245 skywarner  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:41pm

Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama (there, I said it...).

OK, now that I said it, where does the line start for free mortgage payments, free car payments, and free health care? Hey, how about tossing in a nice 50" flat panel TV, too?!?

While we try to figure out the logistics of our new Socialistic utopia and enjoy our free lollipops and WRCs (Wealth Redistribution Checks) from the government, keep your eye on the Middle East ball. Specifically, Israel and Iran. The Israelis know full well that BHO isn't up to the task of handling the situation, and they will act unilaterally... Soon.

Thanks, libtoid America - you just hastened the next major chapter of the world war.

Country First.

246 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:41pm

cant hit new comments

247 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:52pm

I bought both daughters the wii system with extras for Christmas, they're going back tomorrow. I'm scared shitless of what is going to happen to the economy and my taxes. I barely make it now.

248 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:37:59pm

re: #15 Edouard

He will be our president, and I respect the presidency of this great country.

But God save America.

Thank God I'm an Australian!


NOT MY PRESIDENT!


There I said it for all you Yanks (generic term so as not t anger the southerners here) who are THINKING it but can't bring yourselves to SAY IT OUT LOAD!

249 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:01pm

Oh, brother - guess what the moonbats have come up with now:

gOd Bless AMericA

250 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:07pm

I apologize for the inability to be gracious at the moment, Charles. I'm angry.

I'm angry at the media. I'm angry at mindless democrats who don't realize they're not really leftists. I'm angry at fellow party members who think this is a good thing. I'm angry at the media. Yes- I realize I said that twice. They're traitors. They are the enemy. I'm angry at the fraud we just watched be perpetrated on this country by their lies and distortions.

I'll roll up my sleeves and get to work tomorrow, but I can't find much graciousness in me at the moment. Again, Charles- you are a class act.

251 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:09pm

re: #232 Richard Romano

God bless Senator Obama -- I don't agree with anything he espouses, but we have to be impressed by this achievement.

Which? ACORN, credit card fraud, or Rezko?

252 Dripping Sarcasm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:14pm

Re: #207:

It's going to be an interesting four years.

Ward, I admire your optimism. I'm not sure that we have another 4 years...

253 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:18pm
254 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:18pm

Hell no.
I don't feel like extending my congratulations to that corrupt marxist bastard.

Sorry, Charles... feel free to delete.

255 nigella  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:28pm

PIMF IN MY

256 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:29pm

re: #137 DistantThunder

It's the OJ verdict all over again - even his own lawyers were astonished - now where are those lawyers - where is OJ?

Your question may be rhetorical, but:

Several of the lawyers are dead (Johnny Cochrane, Bob Kardashian, Carl Douglas) and OJ's in jail waiting sentencing for being convicted of kidnapping/armed robbery/etc. in Las Vegas.

Karma? Reaping/Sowing? Justice delayed?

257 EA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:36pm

So this is how liberty dies... With thunderous applause.

258 mattm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:36pm

The popular vote is 48/51. While he may have won the EC it was not a huge win.

259 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:40pm

re: #169 Killian Bundy

/well, that's a tin lining, got a linky?


Franken/Coleman and other Minnesota races on CBS

260 cicero05  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:41pm

Disgusted. Just disgusted.

261 amphibian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:38:43pm

Fuck.

262 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:05pm

re: #176 jtm371

Yes it would. To stoop to their level would not be the right thing to do either. I know you meant to have a sarc tag on your post.

263 Soccermom  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:05pm

#82, Palandine:

MO Secretary of State web site - real time: 63% reporting.

McCain is 7-8% up. HOWEVER, no urban areas have reported (St. Louis Co., City of St. Louis, Kansas City, Springfield). I believe we'll still be red tomorrow morning!

(Cynthia McKinney has 0.1%, ha ha)

McCain's speech was pitch perfect tonight. God Bless him.

264 FrogMarch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:05pm

Obama - whatever. Jimmy Carter II. Life might really suck. but hopefully Obama won't be as left-wing as his friends.


What I really want to know is what the hell is wrong with PA? Murtha won. Why are people so enamored by this poisonous toad?

265 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:10pm

re: #250 Sharmuta


I'm angry at the media.

Vote with your wallet. Boycott MSM. Boycott those who use MSM to advertise.

266 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:22pm

re: #122 Charles

Don't give the lefties anything, people.

It's time to be gracious.

Exactly.

I did not vote for Senator Obama. I do not respect Senator Obama. I do, however, respect the office of the President of the United States of America. Come January, Barack Obama will be my President, for better or worse.

Let's not be overly dramatic. America is not finished. No matter what hardships we face, we will persevere. It's not political parties or politicians that make us what we are. It's the American spirit, and the grand experiment that continues on. Are we in for four years of difficult times? Quite possibly. But, America has survived worse in the past. God willing, it will survive worse in the future.

Having said that, it's going to be a very long four years.

267 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:34pm

re: #224 CyanSnowHawk

Switching majors might be a good idea. There may be a lot of experienced Engineers looking for work in the next few years. Depends on The Messiah's defense budgets.

On the strip tease, go for some unusual underwear, that should distract attention from the awkward movement.

Can't help you with the strip-tease, but I would get out of engineering pronto. I went through Clinton's "Peace Dividend" and there were PhD engineers stacking lumber at Home Depot.

BO's defense cuts will make that seem like the Good Old Days.

268 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:41pm
269 haakondahl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:42pm

re: #92 Random_Lizard

Should I plan on moving? Where can I move to where they would not have problems with a Conservative American? Is there anywhere safe in this world?

Afghanistan. They appreciate us very much over here.

270 Bumr50  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:46pm

I remember playing hockey in high school and that hockey's one of those sports where you still shake hands after a game.
And no matter how hard you fought during the game, afterward it was cool. Because you're all hockey players.
Here's hoping that Obama's not the guy that I've been telling people that he is, because I'm about to stick my hand out.

271 exredtory  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:52pm

Canadian CBC has a reporter outside the White House where a large mob has suddenly appeared and is growing, chanting anti-Bush slogans, and I see hammer-and-sickle flags being waved, placards. Secret Service is taking up position. A police car has been surrounded. It could get ugly.

272 pablito  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:39:56pm

Where's McCain's gentlemanly concession speech to the MSM?

They're the big winners tonight.

273 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:17pm

Obama. The first President elected by the media.

274 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:23pm
275 k80nc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:27pm

Palin '12!

276 ClosetConservative  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:38pm

Just seeing a photo of McCain puts a lump in my throat now. What a hero. All he cared about was his country. And when his country needed him most, they told him to screw off instead.

Goddamn.

277 mattm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:47pm

re: #228 CIA Reject

Yup- EVERY... F*CKING... THING... that goes wrong will be the fault of the DEMOCRATS!

I expect the MSM will be particularly silent...

The can still blame it on Bush.

278 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:47pm

re: #253 Roscoe P.

I can't even jokingly call him Messiah anymore. Antichrist it is.

Roll Al Capone with Carl Marx and you get Barry H. Obama. Reverend Wright will be swearing and swearing in Antichrist.

I don't use epithets.

I merely describe actions.

Credit card fraud, ACORN, hanging with Ayers etc.

279 thriggle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:48pm

Whelp, looks like I'll be listening to Cygnet Committee for the next four years. David Bowie, you were ahead of your time (or maybe Obama should go back to the sixties...).

We had a friend, a talking man
Who spoke of many powers he had...
Not of the best of men, but ours
We used him, we let him use his powers
We let him fill our needs
Now we are strong

And the road is coming to its end
Now the damned have no time to make amends
No purse of token fortune stands in our way
The silent guns of love will blast the sky

We broke the ruptured structure built of age
Our weapons were the tongues of crying rage
Where money stood, we planted seeds of rebirth
And stabbed the backs of fathers, sons of dirt

Infiltrated business cesspools, hating through Our sleeves
Yeah, and We slit the Catholic throat
Stoned the poor on slogans such as:

"Wish You Could Hear"
"Love Is All We Need"
"Kick Out The Jams"
"Kick Out Your Mother"
"Cut Up Your Friend"
"Screw Up Your Brother or He'll Get You In the End"
*

[...]

And I open my eyes to look around
And I see a child laid slain on the ground
As a love machine lumbers through desolation rows
Ploughing down man, woman, listening to its command
But not hearing anymore
Not hearing anymore
Just the shrieks from the old rich

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls now
And I want to believe
That a light's shining through somehow...

*Also: "Change we can believe in"

280 Desert Dog  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:49pm

NOOO!

This election is illegal, stolen by deceit! Voter Fraud and Media manipulation!
We will not accept it and take it to the Supreme Court! And, if they say it's legal, we will still not believe it! Instead, we will hold hatred and anger deep in our hearts and we will hound and harass "President" Obama on every issue at every turn! We shall grant him no quarter and jump on every twist and turn to show his weakness. We will fight tooth and nail every proposal and plan of his, even if it benefits our country. And, of course, we will look for America's failure, hence Obama's failure, as our salvation and way back to power! JOIN ME OH LIZARDS, JOIN ME! RAAAHHH

Oh wait, I am not a Democrat...I forgot...How about we accept President Obama as our leader and get on with living? He won fair and square and he has 4 years to do his best. I am hoping in that time, my party, the Republicans, will pull our collective heads out of our collective arses.

The Dems can take control and see how they do. I am guessing they will screw up royally and we can get back what we lost in 2-4 years...but, until then we have to work hard to rebuild the wreckage.

281 mama winger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:40:52pm

re: #201 Cartman

That's it for me here at LGF. Time to spend my energies elsewhere. It's been an experience, to say the least. As Realwest would say, maybe I'll catch y'all somewhere on down the road, the Good Lord willing. Carry on, and God Bless America. Stay safe, folks.

CARTMAN !?!?!

Where you goin, man? Who's gonna dance with me ? ? ?

get back here mister
pronto

282 Wookieelips  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:10pm

re: #176 jtm371

would it be wrong when i put my flag up tomorrow to fly it upside down? just asking.

As funny as I would find it if I saw that, that is the crap moonbats do, and we shouldn't stoop so low.

/yeah, this coming from the the girl that flipped off the 0bama street-corner workers today.

283 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:11pm

re: #176 jtm371

would it be wrong when i put my flag up tomorrow to fly it upside down? just asking.

No, fly it at half mast.

284 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:11pm

What's going on with Norm Coleman.

285 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:17pm

re: #189 astronmr20

They should tar and feather their stupid fucking union bosses.

yes, i didn't like that bastard's statement. he just ignored obama's plan to bankrupt the coal industry like he wasn't on record saying it.

286 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:18pm

This next speech is going to be tough to watch.

/not a word of truth will come out of his mouth

287 cicero05  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:25pm

Now we'll see the wisdom of the Obamedia, played out in a practical four-year experiment.

288 pingjockey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:27pm

Well at least half the country thinks a man with no executive experience is capable of being Prez. And now that the "citizenry" has figured out they can vote themselves bread and circuses they will tax the hell out of the workers to support this circus as the country circles the shitter. I'm guessing reparations will get an airing and if you are a married couple making over 40k and single making over 30k you are now rich! 2 years from now we'll see how much socialsim has been wrought in the name of redistribution and how large the unemployment rolls are and the number of businesses who've shut their doors.

289 ClosetConservative  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:35pm

re: #243 Salem

Massachussetts just did.

290 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:39pm

I would love to kick Rush Limbaugh ass for telling me to vote for Bambi in the primary's because he would be a better candidate for losing to McCain.


fuck you Rush!

291 kahn_mann  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:52pm

Boy, I need to try to be more positive. I'll be listening to hear if anyone in the msm ever refers to him as anything other than President Obama. It will take a long time for me to accept his presidency.

I am fearful of his foreign policy promises, his ideas of taxing the people that create jobs, and his plans to neuter our defenses. Hopefully he was just saying a lot of that crap to get elected.

Let's work hard to find a Reagan Conservative to save us!

292 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:41:57pm

re: #276 ClosetConservative

Just seeing a photo of McCain puts a lump in my throat now. What a hero. All he cared about was his country. And when his country needed him most, they told him to screw off instead.

Goddamn.

Gotta admire McCain. That's all I can say about him. While I do wish he'd acted as the fighter pilot more, the man has already earned his keep for this country. Long ago.

293 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:14pm

re: #241 nyc redneck

i'm ok, i was laughing and crying at the same time.
i mean wtf is going on? it is so ludicrous, so insane .

We are going to do some heavy duty drinking when I get to NYC.

294 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:17pm

re: #186 mayor of imaginationland

50% of the population is below average just remember that

I love your nic and I couldn't agree more.

295 Florida Lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:19pm

Wow. Now he'll actually have to do something other than vote "Present."

296 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:21pm

From Fox News:

Image: 1104081535_M_110408_elexessay14.jpg

Start taking this for granted. I'm sure this fellow is a real patriot.

297 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:28pm

re: #90 PattiO

Fox just had a close-up of Jesse Jackson crying. I'm sure he was thinking...damn I'm out of a frickin' job!

No worries - he and the riotmonger will get a nice fat sinecure to allow them to sail gracefully into retirement...

298 iChef  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:30pm

They won't have ole' George to kick around anymore ...
Finally they'll shut up and go back to being self absorbed ...

299 Kulhwch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:37pm

If you're feeling faint, bend over and put your head between your knees ...

... and kiss your ass goodbye.

}:/     [In the spirit of the 60s, it seems appropriate.  When do the secret police start hunting us down?]

300 cliffster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:48pm

McCain showed how to lose with class.

John Kerry shows how to lecture even as he loses

301 cybermonk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:42:53pm

I think its time to plan my 2nd Aliyah, and make it permanent this time. At least the Arabs don't pretend to care about me. Their hatred is out in the open. If I die at least it will be in Israel. Perhaps my brothers in Israel will provide us with a true leader, since the US has elected a enemy of Israel, an Arab who is very friendly with the PA, Hamas and Hezbollah.

302 SummerSong  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:43:08pm

re: #241 nyc redneck

i'm ok, i was laughing and crying at the same time.
i mean wtf is going on? it is so ludicrous, so insane .

I know...I let myself vent for a minute and pissed off the husband...sucky night all around.

303 mayor of imaginationland  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:43:27pm

re: #229 NamesAGame

translated it means "50%" sorry if that wasn't clear

304 wtsmn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:43:44pm

As I've been saying all along,

This is a delusional election...time to embrace Big Brother:

When the One declared war on the capitalists,
I sent money to ACORN & MoveOn.org – it’s not fraudulent if we win;
War is Peace.

When the One called on us to shout down his critics,
I followed his commands blindly attacking any who questioned the Messiah;
Freedom is Slavery.

When the One promised to meet with America’s enemies (without preconditions),
I was proud of my country for the first time in my life;
Ignorance is Strength.

When the One came for me,
it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished;
I loved Big Brother.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

God Help Us All!


Bill S.

305 cicero05  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:03pm

Tomorrow morning I'm starting my first papier mache head.

306 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:07pm

Don't blame me! I only voted once!

307 MadJadBad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:18pm

Honestly, the Republicans blew it. They didn't distinguish themselves in Congress or the Presidency as the party for fiscal responsibility when they had the opportunity and the financial crisis was hung on them. Hopefully, this is a wake up call to push the country clubbers out and reconnect with the average joes. Personally, I'm fed up with them also and will go full out Libertarian if they don't make some changes.
Keep John Boehner though.

308 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:24pm

It would be great if I didn't have to shut down this comment thread. But I will if I have to. I'm not happy about this outcome, either, but I'm not going to freak out and say things I'll regret later.

Get a grip, people.

309 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:32pm

re: #280 Desert Dog

He won fair and square

Vehemently disagree.

and he has 4 years to do his best.

Agree.

310 jtm371  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:40pm

re: #232 Richard Romano

that is why mccain got his ass handed to him.you have to fight fire with fire.i don't remember the moonbats praying for POTUS Bush.screw them grow a set of balls and try to rip out their throat.

311 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:42pm

re: #250 Sharmuta

I apologize for the inability to be gracious at the moment, Charles. I'm angry.

I'm angry at the media. I'm angry at mindless democrats who don't realize they're not really leftists. I'm angry at fellow party members who think this is a good thing. I'm angry at the media. Yes- I realize I said that twice. They're traitors. They are the enemy. I'm angry at the fraud we just watched be perpetrated on this country by their lies and distortions.

I'll roll up my sleeves and get to work tomorrow, but I can't find much graciousness in me at the moment. Again, Charles- you are a class act.

Get it our of your system. Quickly.

The last thing we need is to look like we have ODS.

We need to be respectful of the OFFICE, the occupant has to earn it.

We need to state our case for the coming disaster based in historical terms, and when our predictions come to pass use the opportunity to educate not gloat.

The Chinese character for crises I am told is made of two other characters.
Danger and Opportunity.

We stand on the precipice of dangerous times. But a huge opportunity awaits.
To show the American people up close and personal that socialism does not work.

312 JohnAdams  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:45pm

WE are the grownups. The only thing to do is congratulate the winners for now, and then watch them warily. Be an example to the children who would have rioted if they had lost.

At the same time, quietly go back to work and hone our arguments to a sharp point as to why this lunacy that is about to occur should not.

313 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:46pm

Good God in Heaven,

Looks like the race for Governor here in Washington State is split 50/50 with 22% of the precincts reporting. I am sooo not looking to see a repeat of '04 here.

SEATTLE, for the sake of the rest of the us, I wholeheartedly support, nay demand that you SECEDE from the Great State of Washington!

314 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:44:55pm

It's getting late. Where's the speech?

315 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:09pm

re: #286 Killian Bundy

This next speech is going to be tough to watch.

/not a word of truth will come out of his mouth

I can't stand to listen to his lecturing, so I won't be listening.

316 hermeneutics  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:11pm

Lets think proactively. How to survive Obama's presidency:

1. Invest carefully. Keep some in cash and put the rest in tax-free financial instruments.
2. Pull kids out of schools before they get "re-educated." Private or home school.
3. Lay low. Legally avoid paying taxes to this government for it ultimately will hurt those to whom it is re-distributed.
4. If you own a small company, have family work for you and fire as many employees as possible.
5. Consider dual citizenship for your children.

317 Sifty  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:12pm

In my heart it's always morning in America. Nobody can take that away from me.

Not even the Commie in Chief.

318 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:16pm

that slob murtha won.
fcking nuts.

319 Randall Gross  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:22pm

Like it or not he's been duly elected by the laws of our land, if you stay a citizen of the US then in January Barack Obama will be your president. I say you need to accept that reality now, and begin to think on elections 2010 -- the Dems will have the most seats to lose in the next round, who's up for re-election? Let's get started now.

320 NY Nana  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:48pm

re: #170 PattiO

I turned it off. But this is the sort of campaign he won...you cannot be a gentleman when you run against the likes of Hussein, who had more dirty luggage than any candidate for President of our country since George Washington proudly was our first.

I do not think he even tried to win, nor do I believe he ever was running as a Republican, nor that he truly wanted the office.

May G-d help America, and also Israel, who will now have a target on it...and also our other allies, who will not think the same of us that they did before Hussein won.

G-d bless the USA!

I probably will not post anymore tonight...too angry and too hurt. Our country deserves so much better than it got.

My only hope is that somehow he will be impeached...but it seems that it will be an all-Demonrat congress. Some may turn against him..we can only hope.

I keep thinking of all our kids and grandkids...and what this will do to their lives, no matter which state they live in...and to any future generation in the next 30 or s0 years that it may take to clear away the damage he will cause .

321 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:49pm

re: #199 non-lib Nina

My daughter just called and wants to move to Australia and wants me to go. Huh, maybe I will now?

Try Queensland or Western Australia. WA for the huge money and Queensland for the not bad jobs and lifestyle!

Good luck!


...and welcome mate!

I'll throw another prawn on the Bar-B for you

322 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:45:58pm

re: #259 Griffon

Franken/Coleman and other Minnesota races on CBS

/[expletive deleted]!

323 NamesAGame  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:06pm

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
H. L. Mencken

So, I'll be trying to hold on to these words for the next 4 years...

324 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:10pm

re: #290 ibmkeyboard

I would love to kick Rush Limbaugh ass for telling me to vote for Bambi in the primary's because he would be a better candidate for losing to McCain.

fuck you Rush!

What the hell are you talking about? Operation Chaos was about keeping Hillary in the race so she could attack 0, and to make the Democrats have to spend more money.

325 Republican Party Reptile  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:16pm

America sitting in the dark!
Israel isolated and desperate!
Why work, your wealth is going to be redistributed!

Congratulations Democrats and RINOs, you elected him now we all get to deal with him.

I don't care about "historical election". I don't care about "healing old wounds". I care about the United States of America and it's status as a beacon of freedom and hope for the world. And this man scares the crap out of me. He has already declared his willingness, if not eagerness, to hamstring the military and energy segments of our society. He is allegedly ready to sell out our one real ally in the Middle East for a bag of magic beans and a promise to play nice. If you work for a living, get ready to have your money handed to someone who didn't work for it and doesn't deserve it. If it's up to him (and in large part it will be) get ready to wait upwards of a year for "elective" surgeries like gallstone and appendix removals.

Congratulations America, white guilt and race-baiting is still alive and well.

Don't blame me, I voted for Palin. At least in two years Jimmy Carter 2: Electric Boogaloo will have most likely screwed up so badly that we end up with a Republican knocklout in the midterm elections.

326 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:21pm

re: #284 Ward Cleaver

What's going on with Norm Coleman.

The race is about as tied as it can be. Not quite half the precincts reported, 250 votes apart right now.

327 I need a bigger gun  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:21pm

Do you think he'll be able to keep a straight face during his swearing-in when he has to say that he's going to defend the Constitution of the United States?

A couple of other things:

1. Little attention has been paid to the one place where Obama might do his largest amount of damage to this country: the Supreme Court. He will probably have the chance to nominate at least two (probably three) justices during his (hopefully only) one term. A SCOTUS that leans farther left than it already does could be a disaster.

2. We, as a country, should be safe from terrorist attacks during the remaining time of GWB's term, but after the swearing-in, all bets are off. That record of not having an attack on American soil since 9/11 will disappear in less than two weeks, as a guess.

3. I can't imagine that there wasn't some kind of guaranteed quid pro quo between Obama's campaign and the MSM. Why else would the media take so much of a chance to go blantantly into the tank for him unless they were promised something in return once Obama achieved the presidency? It makes me believe even more that the fairness doctrine will be pushed through and have a numbing effect not only on talk radio but on the internet, too. All of this in the name of trying to make the MSM relevent again (I don't think it will work, though). There's probably a considerable financial bail-out awaiting certain newspapers that are going under, too.

4. Hopefully, the GOP will learn some lessons from this year's debacle. One thing for certain: you can't run a "stay above the fray and play by the rules" kind of campaign while the other guy breaks every rule imaginable. That's a sure way to get your ass handed to you. That doesn't mean you have to do illegal things, but you may have to hammer home some unpleasant truths about the other guy. Second, Sarah Palin should be the GOP presidential nominee in 2012. Hell, we already know everything there is to know about her. The press blew their wad vetting her this time as a VP candidate; there won't be any surprises later on down the road. The question is, will she want to go through this again?

Okay, that's enough ranting for now...

328 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:35pm

re: #308 Charles

It would be great if I didn't have to shut down this comment thread. But I will if I have to. I'm not happy about this outcome, either, but I'm not going to freak out and say things I'll regret later.

Get a grip, people.

OK, with all that, I will say that we need to get on with life.

However, time for (legal and proper) actions that will help bring our country back to "The Way it Ought to Be" is now.

And that would be the case no matter who won.

Eris

329 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:35pm

re: #113 Irene NYC

Plenty of people with plenty of money backed BHO. Wall Street, by a plurality, backed BHO. I'll never understand that.

Easy. They want what the Third World Plutocrats have: a smallish, obsequious middle class to wait on them, and a vast, teeming, easily manipulated poor...

330 tokyobk  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:47pm

God bless the United States of America and help and protect the next president Barack Obama.

Eight years ago I was in a car with (now mayor of Newark) Cory Booker. Cory was often talked about as the one-day first black president and I suggested a few others who might be his rival. I listed a few obvious names but Cory said to me that there was also an extremely talented guy he knew out of Chicago whose strange name I had never heard before...

331 Archimedes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:49pm

re: #122 Charles

Don't give the lefties anything, people.

It's time to be gracious.

Charles, I've always fought for my principles. If a leftist can beat me in an argument, I'll give him something, because I'll have learned something of value. Winning an election is not an argument. Bad guys can win, and I don't congratulate people whom I think are bad. I don't congratulate those whom have made a mistake in voting for such a candidate. That's not logical.

332 Salem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:50pm

Wow, I thought the traffic would have lifted a little by now.

333 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:51pm

HEY! I realize you guys are pissed off- I am too, but quit giving Charles more work to do with stupid fucking comments.

334 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:52pm

Looks like the Dems have picked up more than 25 seats, under a Dem president.

We're screwed.

335 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:54pm

re: #314 FightingBack

It's getting late. Where's the speech?

I wouldn't stay up for the concession speech. December 12th is over a month away. All the parties in the court cases will be sleeping several times between now and then.

336 hermeneutics  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:46:56pm

re: #280 Desert Dog

You're assuming that the wreckage can be reassembled and the damage can be fixed.

I disagree.

337 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:13pm
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again

/get used to hearing that a lot from Barney Frank and Charlie Rangel in the next few years

338 Wookieelips  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:14pm

re: #218 Diane

re: #218 Diane

Charles, you are gracious.

I am concerned for all the good work done so far in the Middle East, it feels like hopes for democracy are not the hope we can count on anymore.

McCain was just such a very special candidate, I will miss listening to him.

Hear hear!
I wonder if I was the only one thinking that since he's tried so many times, and been at it for so long that he really deserved it?
I hate that he won't have this opportunity again. Final slap in the face for the Vietnam vets. Let's hope it's the final one, anyway.

339 solomonpanting  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:22pm

Franken in Minn? I believe the Dems could nominate Felix the Cat and he'd win there.

340 Bos2112  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:33pm

I hope this puts racsim behind us. However I wonder what this country I love will look like in 4 years. And make no mistake -IM gonna be watching these guys (O,Pelosi,Dodd,Frank,Reid and the rest) LIKE A HAWK!

341 uptight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:42pm

OMG America's fucked. The world is fucked.

This how empires fall - defeat from within.

I still can't see that lanky streak of zero in the White House.

342 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:48pm

The only way the U.S.A. will cease to exist is when the last American ceases to exist. This is NOT the end of America. I am not happy about the apparent results of this election, but the doomsayers here are really starting to piss me off.

This dude is bouncing out before he makes the wrath of Miss Manners seem like nap time in pre-school.

Later Lizards.

343 deanayer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:47:58pm

Prepare for the "M" word ! watch as the media reports that Obama has a "Mandate" from the people even though the popular vote will settle at 48% to 51% - they will reference the electoral college numbers of 300+ versus 100+ and you will suddenly find the entire electoral college system back in vogue after its betrayal in the last 2 elections. The polls were wrong, they were off by an average of 4.5% or thereabouts and there is no landslide. In order to sway an additional 3% of the population Obama had to spend an extra 300 to 400 plus million dollars (after breaking the federal funds pledge) have the media in the tank like never before and have a financial meltdown that produced about a 33% loss on paper of millions of american 401k's. All that was needed to happen to pick up 3%. There's your mandate right there.

344 CommonCents  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:08pm

re: #249 gmsc

Oh, brother - guess what the moonbats have come up with now:

gOd Bless AMericA

At least they finally found the balls to put the 3 words together. Funny though, I thought all 3 words were banned from their vocabulary.

345 Ackomanyuki  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:19pm

"To course over better waters the little bark of my wit now lifts her sails, leaving behind her a sea so cruel"

See Y'all, I have a winter garden to start.

346 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:21pm

re: #327 I need a bigger gun

Hopefully, the GOP will learn some lessons from this year's debacle. One thing for certain: you can't run a "stay above the fray and play by the rules" kind of campaign while the other guy breaks every rule imaginable.

Darn right.

347 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:32pm

re: #327 I need a bigger gun

Nah, her other kid'll be preggers by then.

348 Byzantium  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:43pm

In Manhattan...screaming in the streets...won't sleep well tonight.

349 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:47pm

Hello Lizards. Help me feel better.

350 huckfunn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:50pm

We must think positively. GONE are Chuck Hagel, Chris Sheys and... John McCain. Fortunately, Hagel's seat went to a Republican; hopefully one who will vote like a republican. Chris Sheys' seat will now be honestly filled by a democrat. At least we'll have a clue as to how that seat will vote.

351 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:51pm

re: #293 newsjunkie_ky

We are going to do some heavy duty drinking when I get to NYC.

come soon, while we can still afford the good stuff.

352 Dr. Stu  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:54pm

Congratulations to Obama. Hopefully God has answered my prayer to give us the leader that will allow us to attain more prosperity and positive influence. It wasn't the result that I wanted, and hopefully God did not place Obama for a purpose that is contrary to the spirit of my prayer.

Obama don't screw it up, or you will be voted out. In the meantime, we will praying for you.

353 Gozer the Carpathian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:54pm

Well that's it then. I can now blame everything that goes wrong on the Dems for the next 4 years. :)

Gotta find that silver lining folks.

354 Bobblehead  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:57pm

I almost feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. Gone is any chance she had of becoming President. She and Bubba are no longer #1 and #2 in the Democrat party.

355 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:48:58pm

re: #308 Charles

It would be great if I didn't have to shut down this comment thread. But I will if I have to. I'm not happy about this outcome, either, but I'm not going to freak out and say things I'll regret later.

Get a grip, people.

I'm sorry Charles; it just stings.

356 kevin the ox  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:05pm

According to RealClearPolitics, there are a number of states still in play. It's very close, in even some key states. Projections and polls are nothing to precincts reporting.

And, this being known to all parties, I wonder if anyone paid attention (I didn't see it) to whether McCain actually said "I concede" or did he simply offer congratulations on a projected win for Obama?

357 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:05pm

re: #323 NamesAGame

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
H. L. Mencken

So, I'll be trying to hold on to these words for the next 4 years...

"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with an average voter."

Winston Churchill

We have seen that quote in action tonight.

358 jayzee  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:07pm

OY. Think he'll make Rashidi ambassador to Israel?

359 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:22pm

re: #280 Desert Dog

NOOO!

This election is illegal, stolen by deceit! Voter Fraud and Media manipulation!
We will not accept it and take it to the Supreme Court! And, if they say it's legal, we will still not believe it! Instead, we will hold hatred and anger deep in our hearts and we will hound and harass "President" Obama on every issue at every turn! We shall grant him no quarter and jump on every twist and turn to show his weakness. We will fight tooth and nail every proposal and plan of his, even if it benefits our country. And, of course, we will look for America's failure, hence Obama's failure, as our salvation and way back to power! JOIN ME OH LIZARDS, JOIN ME! RAAAHHH

Oh wait, I am not a Democrat...I forgot...How about we accept President Obama as our leader and get on with living? He won fair and square and he has 4 years to do his best. I am hoping in that time, my party, the Republicans, will pull our collective heads out of our collective arses.

The Dems can take control and see how they do. I am guessing they will screw up royally and we can get back what we lost in 2-4 years...but, until then we have to work hard to rebuild the wreckage.

It's difficult for me to accept this, though I will be patient and see what happens - I always love surprises. I just want to add to your post that liberals will increase their Bush derangement syndrome and start peeing all over the place like christmas no matter how accepting and tolerant we are.

360 bosforus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:49:40pm

re: #266 rabidsquirrel

I do, however, respect the office of the President of the United States of America. Come January, Barack Obama will be my President, for better or worse.

Let's not be overly dramatic. America is not finished.

Agreed. Though I will oppose him whenever necessary. I will not put up with foreign countries that insult him or mock him unjustifiably. Like you said, he's our president and I will maintain my "American arrogance" about the US, our president (so long as he deserves it), and our position in the world.

361 Salem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:08pm

re: #289 ClosetConservative

Massachussetts just did.

Massachussetts probably should have done it a long time ago. It never should have been illegal. But that's just my opinion. I actually quit some time ago.

Okay, last week, but it seems like a long time...

362 right_in_canada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:12pm

Hmph! I suppose it is difficult to lose when you have a team of fradulent voter registrations, and a shrill "lame"stream media acting as your faithful chearleaders.

Although I must admit this may be the first time in history we here in Canada have a more conservative leader than yours.

And for that you have my deepest condolences.

363 hermeneutics  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:21pm

I can't take it anymore.

Good night.

364 healem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:23pm

Getting drunk now. I think my dream of starting a business just died tonight, as did my early retirement. So much for financial responsibility and planning. F*ck it, President Government will save me...

365 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:26pm

re: #318 nyc redneck

that slob murtha won.
fcking nuts.

It's the Philly voters; they agree with Murtha about western Pennsylvanians.

366 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:29pm

First the good news - McCain is not the POTUS.
Now the bad news - Obama is the POTUS.

367 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:40pm

re: #324 Dar ul Harb

What the hell are you talking about? Operation Chaos was about keeping Hillary in the race so she could attack 0, and to make the Democrats have to spend more money.

Operation Chaos is exactly what it said.

200 -400 million dollars is Chaos,
they brought this election with terrorists monies.

Fucking Chaos alright!

368 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:50pm

re: #302 SummerSong

I know...I let myself vent for a minute and pissed off the husband...sucky night all around.

my husband has been patting my head.
he is not as invested in this as i am,
so he thinks.

369 Florida Lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:52pm

re: #326 Griffon

The race is about as tied as it can be. Not quite half the precincts reported, 250 votes apart right now.

I wonder why Fox called it for Coleman then?

370 William  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:56pm

Our primary process is broken; it places too much weight on a few states.

Had the primary been a national vote, all on one day, McCain would not be the Republican nominee (and Obama wouldn't be the Democrat nominee).

I hope radical Obama doesn't do irreparable damage to our nation. McCain is far closer to the center than radical Obama; the media helped bring their Chosen One across the finish line.

Moving forward:

1) Expect the "mainstream" media to now report success in Iraq over the coming months. Obama will be assigned credit for "changing course and winning in Iraq."

2) Same applies to the economy.

371 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:50:57pm

re: #288 pingjockey

Well, hey -- just look on the "bright side" -- with a bankrupt U.S. of KKK -- with a de-fanged military --and impoverishment all around -- the rest of "da world" won't have to worry about the U.S. of A...or for that matter, any "foreign policies" -- you won't have the resources necessary to implement them, even if ya' all wanted to. (be prepared for the rest of the world to really tell ya where to shove it -- once you're sufficiently impoverished, of course)...

372 Seattle Rep  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:04pm

Country First! Congrats President-elect Barack Obama.

373 pingjockey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:09pm

Didn't LBJ, Carter, and Billyjeff have a dem majority in the house and senate? I really hope the moderate(?) donks don't go totally wacko and try to really push redistribution crap. Glad I'm retired from the military. It could get ugly if the cuts are as bad as billyjeff did.

374 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:13pm

re: #356 kevin the ox

According to RealClearPolitics, there are a number of states still in play. It's very close, in even some key states. Projections and polls are nothing to precincts reporting.

And, this being known to all parties, I wonder if anyone paid attention (I didn't see it) to whether McCain actually said "I concede" or did he simply offer congratulations on a projected win for Obama?

John McCain conceded. It's over.

375 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:20pm
376 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:22pm

re: #349 ggt

Hello Lizards. Help me feel better.

The next 4 years will kill American socialism for the next 40.

It's gonna' suck, it's gonna' hurt like hell.

In 4 years with 12% inflation, a 15% unemployment rate, and 20% interest rate. At least 60% of American will get the message.

Hunter '12.

377 lifeofthemind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:22pm

They thought they were free and they choose fear and bigotry and fascism.
God help humanity. No where will be safe.

378 NY Nana  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:29pm

re: #185 ErislDysnomia

And don't forget what he and a Demonrat congress will do for the brave military winning in Iraq, and going after Afghanistan...and what will happen to the Iraquis and Afghanis...and to the morale of the US Military.

379 Percopius  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:38pm

It's not the end of the world. Come on, the Democrats went though this many times.re: #312 JohnAdams

WE are the grownups. The only thing to do is congratulate the winners for now, and then watch them warily. Be an example to the children who would have rioted if they had lost.

At the same time, quietly go back to work and hone our arguments to a sharp point as to why this lunacy that is about to occur should not.

Exactly. Don't fucking fall apart people. The donkeys went through this feeling and situation plenty, and they are now calling the shots. This too shall pass.

380 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:39pm

re: #354 Bobblehead

I almost feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. Gone is any chance she had of becoming President. She and Bubba are no longer #1 and #2 in the Democrat party.

Yeah, they are definitely on the outs.

381 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:40pm

We know from his own words what Obama thinks about the Constitution and the seperation of powers. He will not uphold it. Obama is an anti-American socialist who deliberately uses lies and deception to further his agenda. To me, as a Dutchman who chose to move to the US, this spells the end of American democracy.

I honestly don't understand the graciousness.

re: #190 transient

...
I hope Obama performs better than expected vis a vis Israel and the Middle East, or things will get very ugly very soon. I'm wondering what effect an Obama victory will have on Israel's elections. Are Israelis more likely to vote Likud, reasoning that Israel will need someone firm to stand up to pressure from Obama? ...

I hope he doesn't. For Obama performing better vis a vis Israel and the Middle East would mean cutting Israel to pieces and giving the Arabs everything they demand.

382 Desert Dog  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:51:59pm

re: #336 hermeneutics

It's always darkest before the dawn...I am not quite prepared to write off the entire political right of the USA. We will be back, stronger and wiser...Do you really think the Dems will be able to hold on to the power indefinitely? These past two elections are a pendulum swing going to the left...But, a funny think about pendulums, they always swing back.

The Dems are in heaven now, but once their policies start backfiring and mistakes are made...we will be there with better and smarter plans...I am sure of that.

383 average_guy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:00pm

re: #304 wtsmn

As I've been saying all along,

This is a delusional election...time to embrace Big Brother:

When the One declared war on the capitalists,
I sent money to ACORN & MoveOn.org – it’s not fraudulent if we win;
War is Peace.

When the One called on us to shout down his critics,
I followed his commands blindly attacking any who questioned the Messiah;
Freedom is Slavery.

When the One promised to meet with America’s enemies (without preconditions),
I was proud of my country for the first time in my life;
Ignorance is Strength.

When the One came for me,
it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished;
I loved Big Brother.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

God Help Us All!


Bill S.


Only 24 years late...time to learn Newsspeak and take Soma...

384 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:05pm

re: #249 gmsc

Oh, brother - guess what the moonbats have come up with now:

gOd Bless AMericA

Is the 'g' in God actually a lower case 'g' or is that a typo?

385 SheikYabouti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:14pm

Can I offer some objectivity?

As an Australian, I felt the same way when Kevin Rudd was elected Prime Minister of Australia. In a year his government has achieved absolutely nothing (as I predicted). The Australian public has woken up to the fact that he is a fraud and his government is essentially useless. We are now counting down to 2010 to correct this error and remove this stain permanently.

I understand that BHO is probably 10 times worse than Rudd, but you must focus on 3 things:
- Questioning his decisions and highlighting the errors
- The mid-term elections, and
- Replacing him in 4 years (if he is not impeached by then).

Stay sane people, it is only temporary.

386 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:17pm

Listen, a president who's done all the questionable things Obama has done even before in office deserves the greatest of skepticism.

I respect the office, but for the person I feel great suspicion. It is up to him to prove me and about 150 million others wrong, not for me to be generous and give the benefit of the doubt.

The MSM, on the other hand, gets not even skepticism. I declare my animosity towards it unconditionally.

387 JacksonTn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:24pm

Obama: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’

That says it all ... he is a Thug ... and and I don't care if he is the President of the United States or not ... he has shown his colors ...I will support American no matter what but he is what he is ...

388 jayzee  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:30pm

re: #353 Gozer the Carpathian

Well that's it then. I can now blame everything that goes wrong on the Dems for the next 4 years. :)

Gotta find that silver lining folks.

Silver linings:
1) Accountants are gonna be very busy helping with tax planning.
2) Airstrike on Iran coming soon.

389 Syrah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:33pm

re: #242 hermeneutics

Some things require more than a lost election. If that is the correct path, this election in of itself is not enough. Lets not propose the most extreme option right out of the gate.

Some things should not be considered or proposed in moments of high passion.

Keep a cool head.

Gives this some time.

We are not done yet.

390 Seattle Rep  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:33pm

re: #73 lone_wolf_in_illinois

wasn't that one of the names on a voter registration card? 'Helena Handbasket'?

391 Emery Calame  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:42pm

re: #30 nigella

Sorry, Charles, while I wish him no harm, I will not consider him my President. Ban me if you must , but that is my stance!

Well the thing is, people (US citzens, residents, our friends, our allies,...our enemies) generally care who the president of the USA is. They don't much care who individual people happen to consider their personal president.

You didn't pick him but he's got the power and you'd best get used to actively encouraging whatever he does that you like and discouraging what ever he does that you don't like and keep it up until his term is up. Then vote against him again, and if he wins again, repeat.

392 Jefiner  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:47pm

It's a big poop sandwich, and we are all gonna have to take a bite . . .

But like I said before--

The Republic will survive. It has survived so many deadly challenges, and it will survive this posturing little peacock as well.

Ya gotta wonder what Lincoln would have made of all this . . .

393 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:55pm

Killgore, did you vote?

394 cliffster  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:52:58pm

To all the people saying we're screwed - we aren't screwed. In order to win, democrats had to say they were going to cut taxes, keep the budget under control, and be tough overseas. Even if everything they said was a lie, that's still the line they used and that's what people bought, and that's why they won. They won by being Conservative.

So we have taken the most liberal senator and made him into a center-right guy.

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:04pm

In the immortal words of Taggart?

I am depressed.

396 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:05pm

re: #374 Charles

John McCain conceded. It's over.

I'd call 338-115 a clear victory.

397 healem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:13pm

re: #289 ClosetConservative

I should move there...I'm going to need it to survive the next four years.

398 strikefo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:15pm

Being a U.S. Marine, we have a couple of phrases that we all know when something doesn't go our way, B.O.H.I.C.A. Bend over here it comes again.

What's coming is the big green weenie. Or democrat weenie. Whatever it is, it's not going going to be good, and it's probably going to be very painful.

399 CommonCents  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:17pm

John Murtha. Evidence that America has gone completely insane...or masochist.

400 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:22pm

Some here are being most gracious - some are taking this a bit harder (including me). I imagine in the next days and weeks emotions will recede and we'll see how our new government begins to shape up. However... it is hard to forget eight years of the MSM and the so-called "loyal opposition" treating our CURRENT president like a complete idiot - portraying him to the world as a stupid frat boy who couldn't wait to blow up the world. Of course George W. Bush has made mistakes - what president doesn't? But I wonder if it EVER occurred to any of these critics that the rest of the world had such a low opinion of America under George Bush BECAUSE all they had to really go on was what they heard from the MSM and the Democrats? Of course not - but now we will ALL be expected to glorify BO and the world will think America has finally come to its senses. Bush has kept us safe and is far from the idiot they want him to be, and I for one despise the way he has been villified. That doesn't mean that I will do the same to BO - but it sure makes it hard to be gracious.

401 apocolypse yesterday  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:33pm

I am very disappointed and will feel the pain for many days to come.

However, I will take the "high road" and congratulate Obama on his victory. I wish him well and will not cheer his demise.

I will continue to fight for the values I believe in and will be very vocal in oppossing policies that I believe will hurt our country.

Obama has two choices: (1) govern from a more moderate position than his record would indicate and have the possibility of re-election, or (2) govern from a liberal position and be a one-termer and spark the next conservative movement

402 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:53:51pm

re: #396 Ward Cleaver

I'd call 338-115 a clear victory.

Er, 338-155.

403 Kragar  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:20pm

Night, Gonna drink some beer and make some time with the wife

404 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:26pm

re: #353 Gozer the Carpathian

Well that's it then. I can now blame everything that goes wrong on the Dems for the next 4 years. :)

Gotta find that silver lining folks.

There are plenty of silver linings:

Mexico will suddenly develop an interest in increasing border security at it's US border.

We'll finally have peace in the Middle East, since they don't have to worry about that pesky US support of Israel anymore.

America is now absolved of all sin in the eyes of the world.

405 Kulhwch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:33pm

re: #122 Charles

Don't give the lefties anything, people.

It's time to be gracious.

Even if ... ESPECIALLY if ... it hurts.  Agreed.  I'll just sit over here as nice as anything.  Maybe forment a bit ...

}:)     [Aw, look at all the happy dancing backstabbing lying little lefttardsies ... isn't that cute?]

406 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:39pm

re: #402 Ward Cleaver

Er, 338-155.

Do not bring Chad into this!

/ ;-P

407 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:54:48pm

re: #365 Ward Cleaver

It's the Philly voters; they agree with Murtha about western Pennsylvanians.

heartbreaking. i hate that.

408 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:07pm

re: #331 Archimedes

Charles, I've always fought for my principles. If a leftist can beat me in an argument, I'll give him something, because I'll have learned something of value. Winning an election is not an argument. Bad guys can win, and I don't congratulate people whom I think are bad. I don't congratulate those whom have made a mistake in voting for such a candidate. That's not logical.

It's gonna be difficult trying to keep my lips zipped even when I take the dogs out for a walk in the neighborhood, especially just down the street where at least 7 moonbats in a row live. They have clearly demonstrated they don't grasp the concept of thinking logically, and instead operate on feeling irrationally.

409 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:17pm

re: #384 Daisy

Is the 'g' in God actually a lower case 'g' or is that a typo?

If it's moonbats, it's no typo.

410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:21pm

My heart just broke.

"The failure was mine, not yours."

Typed that about, oh, an hour ago, seems like months.

411 Scion9  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:23pm

re: #211 RedWhiteAndJew

People still get to vote in totalitarian regimes, it's just that their votes don't really count.

It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes.

-Josef Stalin.

Not exactly the same situation, but the sentiment is similar.

412 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:27pm

re: #22 nkca1

Very very dissapointed. Soon the Americans will learn how bad of a choice they have made. Sad sad day.

Actually, I don't believe they will. Some people may change their minds and vote for someone else next time, but I don't think there will ever be the head-slapping moment that would be so gratifying for us to see. It's sorta like when your boyfriend or girlfriend dumps you and you fantasize that they will suddenly regret it a few weeks down the road. They never do.

413 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:55:38pm

I have the utmost respect for "Lizard Nation." And I wanted McCain to win very badly. But Obama is the President Elect. And it is in all of our interests for him to be succesful and lead this nation wisely. I pray he has the wisdom and good judgment to make mostly good decisions. I expect to disagree with him on many things. And I expect that he will require me to pay more taxes. But the man has a tough job and we need him to succeed. To feel otherwise is to put politics above our common interests. And I cannot do that. I am an American first. And while we are disappointed tonight, we canot give in to bitterness. If he screws it up, he'll be gone in 4 years and the Senate and Congress will change in just 730 days. That is our system and he will not be the dictator some fear he will be. And whether you voted for him or not, his election tells the rest of the world that we ARE better than they are. Because in no other country could a minority member achieve this goal. Never again can miserable countries like france or iran look down their noses at us and say we're not the most inclusive, fairminded people in the world. G-d Bless all of you and G-d Bless America!

414 pechon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:04pm

All I can say is what John Wayne said about JFK:

I didn't vote for him, but he's my president and I hope he does well.

Does this mean that I will abandon my values? No, they will always be mine. Does this mean that I hope the economy will crash because of Obama? No, I don’t want to see my nation suffer. I hope that we don’t suffer through another terrorist attack as Biden predicts. I hope that if we do pull out in Iraq, we leave it a stable nation that can defend itself and will continue democracy.

As Republicans we need to look forward to mid-term elections and 2012. We don’t need to stoop to the level the left had during the last 8 years. We need to hold our head up high and call out the mistakes in a respectful way during an Obama administration.

I don’t know what will happen but I will remain strong and remain active in the best interests of the nation.

415 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:29pm

This is going great!

416 Desert Dog  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:31pm

What's the latest on Coleman and Assh*le in MN?

417 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:33pm

Start praying hard for Israel. They will be standing alone.

418 neocon hippie  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:36pm

I have one silver lining in that at least all of my friends and acquaintances are happy and the disgruntled energy of the Bush years that I've had to endure will dissipate. On the other hand, there is a very good chance that a number of them, particularly the Jewish ones, may come to deeply regret their vote sometime in the next four years.

419 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:38pm

They couldn't just let us vote?

/

420 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:38pm

Coleman-Franken is still a race.

Barkley (I) 217,732 15%
Coleman (R) 597,335 42%
Franken (D) 589,683 42%

At one point, the margin was at 30 votes, in favor of Franken.

421 huckfunn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:41pm

McCain's consession speech was truly noble, gentlemanly and the best part of his entire campaign. God Bless Him.

Next...

422 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:45pm

I will definitely boycott the media and all who advertise on them. They canNOT apologize enough for leaving so much of the country uninformed. For the insane attacks on honest people.

This works well because I'll be saving my money to get through the coming depression.

When boycotting an advertiser on CNN (for example) look for one huge one and focus on them until they pull out. And make it a staple company. Like Kellogg's or Tyson. Focus is key. Make sure to let them know their sponsorship of CNN (for example) and only CNN (for example) is the reason they're being boycotted.

It gives me some peace of mind to start organizing my fight against Big Media. They have done enough damage to this country and now it's time to (legally!) do damage to them.

423 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:56:48pm

re: #263 Soccermom

#82, Palandine:

MO Secretary of State web site - real time: 63% reporting.

McCain is 7-8% up. HOWEVER, no urban areas have reported (St. Louis Co., City of St. Louis, Kansas City, Springfield). I believe we'll still be red tomorrow morning!

(Cynthia McKinney has 0.1%, ha ha)

McCain's speech was pitch perfect tonight. God Bless him.

Turnout in St. Louis was massive, genuinely massive today. I was comforting myself with the thought that at least I still live in a sensible state. I hope that remains the case.

424 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:00pm

re: #238 FightingBack

I'm giving up on Fox. Krauthammer says the Pres-elect is a "self made man."
And Brit says "We sure like him!"

Bizzarro world. I can't take it. Am I dreaming this shit?

425 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:00pm

I'll always remember where I was during the '89 Loma Prieta earthquake, on 9/11, and 0bama's election.

I'm not sure America can take much more.

426 Florida Lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:04pm

re: #388 jayzee

Silver linings:
1) Accountants are gonna be very busy helping with tax planning.
2) Airstrike on Iran coming soon.

1. As a CPA, I should be happy about the extra income, but I'm not
2. As an American, I hope Bush takes out those nukes before Ahmadinijad's "no preconditions" pal gets sworn in.

427 Flavia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:13pm

McCain's concession speech was one of the most beautiful political speeches it has ever been my privilege to hear. If we all behave the way he did tonight, it may not really matter who's in the White House.

428 KingKenrod  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:35pm

Some good news...

No filibuster proof majority in the Senate...

Lampson will probably lose to Olsen, TX-22 gets DeLay's district back...

And Obama starts campaigning for 2012, so there will be little time for him to screw anything up.

And this:

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

429 SummerSong  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:37pm

re: #333 Sharmuta

HEY! I realize you guys are pissed off- I am too, but quit giving Charles more work to do with stupid fucking comments.

That is why, for the first time, in 4 years, I went to the lounge...

430 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:42pm

re: #404 gmsc

There are plenty of silver linings:

Mexico will suddenly develop an interest in increasing border security at it's US border.

We'll finally have peace in the Middle East, since they don't have to worry about that pesky US support of Israel anymore.

America is now absolved of all sin in the eyes of the world.

The Holy Bible will no longer be limited to just 2 testaments.

431 PattiO  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:43pm

I guess the final sign of the apocalypse is when he starts pushing some plan to implant EBT chips in everyone.

432 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:43pm

re: #409 Ward Cleaver

If it's moonbats, it's no typo.

Good point.

433 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:46pm

re: #414 pechon

All I can say is what John Wayne said about JFK:

I didn't vote for him, but he's my president and I hope he does well.

Does this mean that I will abandon my values? No, they will always be mine. Does this mean that I hope the economy will crash because of Obama? No, I don’t want to see my nation suffer. I hope that we don’t suffer through another terrorist attack as Biden predicts. I hope that if we do pull out in Iraq, we leave it a stable nation that can defend itself and will continue democracy.

As Republicans we need to look forward to mid-term elections and 2012. We don’t need to stoop to the level the left had during the last 8 years. We need to hold our head up high and call out the mistakes in a respectful way during an Obama administration.

I don’t know what will happen but I will remain strong and remain active in the best interests of the nation.

DING DING DING!

Prayer for the best.
Prepare for the worst.
Work like hell to make it better.

434 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:57:52pm

re: #416 Desert Dog

What's the latest on Coleman and Assh*le in MN?

42-42, with the third party guy (Barkley) with the rest. Can they have a runoff in a Senate race?

435 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:03pm

Obama Speaks.

436 pingjockey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:06pm

I will just put my head down and press on. Pray that we don't get thrown down the gutter for some utopian nonsense and my kids will have a great country to grow up in. Night folks.

437 The Optimist  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:11pm

1. When will Louis Farrakhan get his first invite to the White House?
2. How soon until Jeremiah Wright gets on the public payroll?
3. How soon until Bill Ayers is consulted on the best way to destroy the country?
4. How soon does Obama make enemies out of our country's best friends?
5. How quick will Castro brothers get all our military secrets?
6. When will Obama double-cross Israel?
etc

438 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:11pm

re: #67 hermeneutics

I'm getting my children dual citizenship in Chile. Its over.

My family has been in this country since 1650. And now we're seriously contemplating leaving.

Chile, that bastion of freedom, where every few decades a Pinochet-style character rises to power and decides who's boss. Smooth move.

439 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:16pm

I, too, cannot join in the stiff-upper-lip demeanor many good people are projecting on this board. For months we have been talking about how this man would be a horrible leader. The only change he will affect will be change for the worse. He and his supporters got off on attacking a woman and her child (and believe me- they will not stop). What we have witnessed here is how the American people gave a bad man and other people like him license to do nasty things. This isn't good. There is no positive spin on this. My only consolation is that within a few months after his inauguration, the electorate stupid enough to vote for him will realise how he will drag them down.
I will try to rise above this but right now, the bile has got to go.

440 victor_yugo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:17pm
The last thing we need is to look like we have ODS.

It isn't derangement when one can point to facts, figures, quotes, and dates, objectively verifiable data, to explain our distrust of him.

BDS is emotional. Because GWB dared to do what he believed to be right, rather than negotiate with his opponents, he was pilloried in the media, excoriated on college campi, and hated by irrational "progressives" all over the world who want to believe (despite all evidence) that evil can be manipulated.

BHO is one of those. He was mentored by them, his campaign was driven and handled by them, and he has declared his alignment with them.

441 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:20pm

re: #400 TnTx13

Some here are being most gracious - some are taking this a bit harder (including me). I imagine in the next days and weeks emotions will recede and we'll see how our new government begins to shape up. However... it is hard to forget eight years of the MSM and the so-called "loyal opposition" treating our CURRENT president like a complete idiot - portraying him to the world as a stupid frat boy who couldn't wait to blow up the world. Of course George W. Bush has made mistakes - what president doesn't? But I wonder if it EVER occurred to any of these critics that the rest of the world had such a low opinion of America under George Bush BECAUSE all they had to really go on was what they heard from the MSM and the Democrats? Of course not - but now we will ALL be expected to glorify BO and the world will think America has finally come to its senses. Bush has kept us safe and is far from the idiot they want him to be, and I for one despise the way he has been villified. That doesn't mean that I will do the same to BO - but it sure makes it hard to be gracious.

Thank you for reminding us of yet another reason to boycott the MSM and its advertisers besides the stellar job they've done covering this campaign.

442 non-lib Nina  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:28pm

I am so sad right now.

443 Dave Brown  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:30pm

I'm very proud of John McCain's gracious and moving speech. Setting aside (for the moment) my concerns about Barack Obama's policies and political loyalties, it is magnificent to see America display its ideals of human equality.

I have little confidence in Obama, but I do have hope. At this point, I believe that our best strategy is to try to help the next President succeed in making the world a better and safer place for the US and her allies. I assume that he's unlikely to do so in a way that I'm comfortable with, but I'm willing to cut him some slack for a while.

If (and its a big if) a US President named Hussein chooses to stand up for US interests in the world, oppose Islamist power, and support Israel... this may end up being a "Nixon in China" event; he may serve to strengthen moderate Moslems around the world.

If not, then we just have to hang in there til 2012, and keep up the fight...

Meanwhile, our Nation has survived another democratic election, and we've got the "audacity of hope". Lets hope it works out!

444 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:31pm

re: #311 jcm

I don't know, J. Right now, all I can think about is the bruise on my forehead from banging against this brick wall. We're quitters. Republicans would rather stay at home than do the hard work of fixing their party, or quit the party all together. I've become a broken record and all I have to show for it is one person telling me last night they'd get involved. What's everyone else going to do?, because frankly- I already have my plans.

Start thinking, folks. What. Are. You. Going. To. Do?

445 EA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:42pm

re: #376 jcm

The next 4 years will kill American socialism for the next 40.

It's gonna' suck, it's gonna' hurt like hell.

In 4 years with 12% inflation, a 15% unemployment rate, and 20% interest rate. At least 60% of American will get the message.

Hunter '12.

In other words, it's a huge shit sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a
bite.

446 jayzee  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:45pm

OK I'm out of silver linings, but I got scotch.

447 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:47pm

PA deserves murtha. How in the world are those people that stupid? Shame on them.

448 ggt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:49pm

re: #376 jcm

The next 4 years will kill American socialism for the next 40.

It's gonna' suck, it's gonna' hurt like hell.

In 4 years with 12% inflation, a 15% unemployment rate, and 20% interest rate. At least 60% of American will get the message.

Hunter '12.

Thanks, that does help.

449 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:57pm

Well, I have to say, Obama's little girls are pretty.

450 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:58:58pm

re: #301 cybermonk

I think its time to plan my 2nd Aliyah, and make it permanent this time. At least the Arabs don't pretend to care about me. Their hatred is out in the open. If I die at least it will be in Israel. Perhaps my brothers in Israel will provide us with a true leader, since the US has elected a enemy of Israel, an Arab who is very friendly with the PA, Hamas and Hezbollah.

if i emigrate, can i bring my guns?

451 Pickle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:11pm

re: #323 NamesAGame

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
H. L. Mencken

So, I'll be trying to hold on to these words for the next 4 years...

Mencken was a wonderful, wonderful man. The quote in my profile is another one of my favourites. I think my favourite quote on democracy attributed to him is:

"If x is the population of the United States and y is the degree of imbecility of the average American, then democracy is the theory that x times y is less than y."

452 nigella  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:11pm

Charles, bare with us. I can't speak for all lizards, but this is a huge blow for us and America. Don't expect me to graciously accept this elections outcome. After weeks of stories of voter fraud, and a media who refused to show the real Obama , naturally a lot of us are extremely mad. To blindly accept Obama as our fairly elected POTUS is a lot to swallow.

453 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:25pm

re: #361 Salem

Massachussetts probably should have done it a long time ago. It never should have been illegal. But that's just my opinion. I actually quit some time ago.

Okay, last week, but it seems like a long time...

They did not legalize pot. They decriminalized an ounce or less. Instead of arrest, (with the exception of DUI) they take the marijuana, and issue a $100 fine, like a speeding ticket. They made it civil rather than criminal. Anything over an ounce is still criminal.

454 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:26pm

re: #422 kynna

I will definitely boycott the media and all who advertise on them. They canNOT apologize enough for leaving so much of the country uninformed. For the insane attacks on honest people.

This works well because I'll be saving my money to get through the coming depression.

When boycotting an advertiser on CNN (for example) look for one huge one and focus on them until they pull out. And make it a staple company. Like Kellogg's or Tyson. Focus is key. Make sure to let them know their sponsorship of CNN (for example) and only CNN (for example) is the reason they're being boycotted.

It gives me some peace of mind to start organizing my fight against Big Media. They have done enough damage to this country and now it's time to (legally!) do damage to them.

We nee do get the word out to start a movement about this. Individuals are not enough.

455 maredneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:27pm

I still clearly remember the night that Reagan walloped Jimmy Carter. I have a feeling I will remember tonight similarly, but in reverse. We're in trouble, friends, and so will be our allies. But it's a democracy and the shallow people that voted right last time around voted wrong tonight (in my opinion). Let's hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.

456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:41pm

Those are two pretty little girls. I think he won't try to screw the pooch, at least for their sakes.

457 Griffon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 8:59:44pm

re: #369 Florida Lady

I wonder why Fox called it for Coleman then?

I don't know. I'm watching CBSnews.com's state polls and it's still tied 42% for each of them with only half of the precincts in. Coleman is about 8000 votes ahead, but it has been going back and forth every 5 minutes. I hope they know something CBS doesn't!

458 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:05pm

And here he is, ready to speak, Chicago cheering - the President elect of the USA, Barack Hussein Obama.

I'm sorry, graciousness fails me -- God help us.

459 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:08pm

I don't know if I can listen to this egomaniac for the next four years.

460 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:14pm

re: #385 SheikYabouti

Can I offer some objectivity?

As an Australian, I felt the same way when Kevin Rudd was elected Prime Minister of Australia. In a year his government has achieved absolutely nothing (as I predicted). The Australian public has woken up to the fact that he is a fraud and his government is essentially useless. We are now counting down to 2010 to correct this error and remove this stain permanently.

I understand that BHO is probably 10 times worse than Rudd, but you must focus on 3 things:
- Questioning his decisions and highlighting the errors
- The mid-term elections, and
- Replacing him in 4 years (if he is not impeached by then).

Stay sane people, it is only temporary.

I wish, though you do realize there's a whole religion behind him?

461 golem786  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:27pm

I am disappointed, but grateful for your having enough composure to congratulate Obama. I hope any damage done in the next four years can be reversed.

462 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:34pm

Obama speaks. So far I'm tolerant, but if he promises to turn back the rising waters again, I'm off to bed.

463 Ayatrollah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:38pm

They just showed the Google boys in the park.

464 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:40pm

re: #447 newsjunkie_ky

PA deserves murtha. How in the world are those people that stupid? Shame on them.

Murtha's still going to have to respond to the lawsuit by the marines.

465 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:46pm

re: #354 Bobblehead

I almost feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. Gone is any chance she had of becoming President. She and Bubba are no longer #1 and #2 in the Democrat party.

As I said on an earlier thread, she may have her chance to earn a legacy by fighting him from the senate. She can't feel good about what happened to her and what the rest of the dems did. I'd love to see her stand up to the party. The Clintons can be very vindictive and Obama's election is a real spit in their eyes.

Hillary! in the senate may save this nation. Funny how things can twist and turn.

466 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:49pm

Obama sounds a little arrogant right now..."America did a great thing by electing me."

467 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:56pm

re: #437 Venezuela lover

Done, done, done, done, done and done.

468 martinleaf  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:56pm

McCain ran his election like the US fought the Vietnam war-- half assed. Why didn't McCain, of all people, fight to win ?


To those who worry for Israel, don't. Israel can take care of herself. The best thing that can happen to Israel is for Israel to become more independent of America, which Obama will force upon Israel.

469 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:56pm

I hereby extend my condolences to my fellow lizards living in the U.S.A.. Start now and start fighting for 2010.

470 Dahveed  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:00:59pm

First order of business is that Mike Duncan needs to be replaced as Chairman of the Republican Party. Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, and other true conservatives need to step up and lead the Republicans. Second, John Boehner needs to be replaced as minority leader. We need someone with passion to step up and take on the idiots on the other side.

471 realwest  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:09pm

I haven't been able to find out who created the -4 rating for this thread cause I keep losing LGF when I try, but I am embarrassed by those who voted negatively.
Whether or not we WANTED Obama for President, whether or not we think he'll do a good job as President, is irrelevent to the thoughtful comment made by Charles.
Country first, indeed.

472 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:20pm

re: #372 Seattle Rep

Country First! Congrats President-elect Barack Obama.

You might be stuck with it mate but I'm NOT!


This neo-Marxist bastard is NOT MY PRESIDENT ... thank God


It's a great day to be an Australian!

473 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:32pm

I pray that he will be the unifying, coalition-building presence that his supporters have touted him to be...

As there's nothing in his history or record to indicate that such things are part of his makeup, I'm very skeptical.

I hope for the best, but fear the worst...
Unconstrained Dhimmicrat rule will almost certainly screw things up, we can only hope that their screwups aren't irrepairable.

Be careful what you wish for, America... you might get it.

I need a drink.

474 ted  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:37pm

re: #446 jayzee

OK I'm out of silver linings, but I got scotch.

I got Prozac.

475 Mauser  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:51pm

Watch the liberals tout the electoral landslide, and ignore the closeness of the popular vote, now that the EC is in their favor.

476 zoidberg  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:52pm

NOT MY PRESIDENT!

No, really, he's not... I'm Australian.

477 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:53pm

I've got an Obama nose mole. I'm getting some free stuff!

478 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:01:57pm

Say something nice about McCain, Barry.

479 xshaisu  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:02pm

Congrats President Obama!

480 gmsc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:03pm

Another silver lining:

After 2 years of a Democratic president and a democratic congress, it'll be fairly easy to remove Harry Reid in 2010!

481 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:12pm

re: #455 maredneck

We're in trouble, friends, and so will be our allies.

Biden said it, not me.

482 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:17pm

re: #315 Ward Cleaver

I can't stand to listen to his lecturing, so I won't be listening.

People who were already self-reliant will become more so. People who were dependent on government will become more so.

I wish him all the best, but I simply can't tolerate that voice.

483 arethusa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:24pm

re: #434 Ward Cleaver

42-42, with the third party guy (Barkley) with the rest. Can they have a runoff in a Senate race?

No, but they can have a recount. And then another one...

Coleman is pulling ahead with 51% reporting:

Barkley (I) 219,621 15%
Coleman (R) 602,081 42%
Franken (D) 594,383 42%

484 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:39pm

re: #472 Aussie Infidel

It's a great day to be an Australian!

Any marketing jobs open in Australia? I've always wanted to visit.

For about four years.

485 realwest  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:51pm

re: #444 Sharmuta
Well I worked hard for McCain too - phones, e-mails, going around and talking to folks.
What I want to know is what happened to the PUMAS?

486 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:52pm

re: #318 nyc redneck

that slob murtha won.
fcking nuts.

i love you nyc redneck. (i'm a happy drunk)

487 Gitarzan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:02:55pm

McCain was classy and gracious in defeat and I hope Obama is in victory.

That said, I don't like or respect Obama, but he is our next President-elect and I respect the office of the President, not necessarily the man (just as I did with Bill Clinton).

It's gonna be a long, hard four years, but we must stay vigilant and prepare to take Congress back in 2010 and the presidency back in 2012, while blocking or blunting any damage the Dems may do until then.

May God help and protect this great nation.

488 Kulhwch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:00pm

Okay, acceptance speech starting.

}:(     [Everyone try not to scream all at once ... ]

489 Diane  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:07pm

Wishing the USA, and the new President the best.

The free world needs a strong America.
Hopefully America will unite and continue what has been accomplished so far in the past 8 years of real hard work.

490 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:27pm

re: #459 Noam Sayin'

I don't know if I can listen to this egomaniac for the next four years.

Is he going to bring back The Great Seal Of Obama?

491 Karridine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:30pm

Can America continue to be America if SOME Americans must be victims and SOME Americans are designated EARNERS-WHO-SUPPORT-VICTIMS?

Will America's enemies attack again, now?

In concert or singly?

Will America ever be America again?

492 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:30pm

re: #471 realwest

I haven't been able to find out who created the -4 rating for this thread cause I keep losing LGF when I try, but I am embarrassed by those who voted negatively.
Whether or not we WANTED Obama for President, whether or not we think he'll do a good job as President, is irrelevent to the thoughtful comment made by Charles.
Country first, indeed.

Constitution first, I say.

493 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:32pm

re: #445 EA

Word is, the Dhims at the top won't have to taste a bite...their moron constituents and those strapped into this carnival ride will.

Sorry Pennsylvania - re-electing the Murtha-Furcka just moved you below the intellect level of pond scum.

494 nigella  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:33pm

I don't know about you all but I could use a Mandy Manners f..k you about now! Where are you Mandy?

495 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:38pm

Anyone wanna bet g00gle will start sporting Barack on their logo every year under some sort of a historical monument?

496 democast  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:53pm

re: #266 rabidsquirrel

You'd be thinking otherwise if you were Zionistic or Israeli.

497 kevin the ox  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:55pm

Thanks, Charles. So I wonder, if the votes all come in and McCain actually wins, what would happen then? Conceding has only "stuck" when the guy who concedes actually loses, which is always before this. And I don't think that's necessarily what's happening as we type, here.

I hate to steal a word from the other team, but: have hope. It's not just a slogan. Things could look very different in just a few more hours.

498 VioletTiger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:56pm

re: #447 newsjunkie_ky

PA deserves murtha. How in the world are those people that stupid? Shame on them.

I can't figure that one out. I think he could have shot somebody and they still would have voted for him.

499 SpartanWoman  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:03:59pm

My only wish is that my child gets out of Israel alive

500 lifeofthemind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:08pm

As expected he says nothing, the mob bays and sways in unison, the crowd tolerates the requiered praise of McCain in sullen silence.

501 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:18pm

re: #492 ErislDysnomia

Constitution first, I say.

North Korea is a country. To say "Country first" not "Constitution first" is an error I believe.

502 dr.bob  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:22pm

May God bless the United States of America

503 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:29pm
504 I need a bigger gun  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:36pm

re: #266 rabidsquirrel

Exactly.

I did not vote for Senator Obama. I do not respect Senator Obama. I do, however, respect the office of the President of the United States of America. Come January, Barack Obama will be my President, for better or worse.

Let's not be overly dramatic. America is not finished. No matter what hardships we face, we will persevere. It's not political parties or politicians that make us what we are. It's the American spirit, and the grand experiment that continues on. Are we in for four years of difficult times? Quite possibly. But, America has survived worse in the past. God willing, it will survive worse in the future.

Having said that, it's going to be a very long four years.

What happens when those hardships get worse, not better, as I see them doing over the next two years, at least? Surviving hardships usually entails making them better, not worse.

505 Emery Calame  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:40pm

For what it's worth I think McCain would have made a better president than Obama but I don't think he would have made a good president. I can't imagine him leading or supporting republican filibusters in the Senate anytime soon either. He'll pull of fhis fake clip-on trunk, and let his nose horn grow back in and get right back to the "maverick" bipartisenship schenanigans. He'll probably even blame the right wing of the Republican party for his loss once he feels comfortable in his swing vote/compromise seat. (if the right wing are even still around and don't succumb to third party dementia).

I feel terrible for Israel. I pray that God will protect them from the designs of evil men, and that he will move President Obama's heart to prove me wrong in my assumptions about his foreign policy. I also pray that he will grant us all the courage and strength to mitigate and repair any damage Obama may do to our nation and the world in his naivite, arrogance, and political myopia.

506 Hellfire  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:52pm

Country first my ass. The country I knew died Nov 4 2008. Obama can kiss my frigging ass. I will never call an ass sucking banana republic marxist my president...ever.

507 Parker in US  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:04:59pm

OMG I think I am going to sick.

508 CanadianBush  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:02pm

Mmmm - hey, my Kool-Aid tastes kinda funny.

509 CIA Reject  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:05pm

Well- we survived Carter, but it was INCREDIBLY painful.

And then we had a recovery under Reagan.

No pain, no gain...

Then again:

No brain, no pain.

I think I'll go get drunk now...

510 rawmuse  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:12pm

Looking for a silver lining, and I think I found one.
It was not a close election. There can be no griping over this.
No lawyering up for 90 days. No "selected not elected".
It is what it is.

511 Roentgen  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:13pm

We are fucked. The youth of our counrty played a big part in this election, and will pay the biggest price.

512 itellu3times  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:17pm

re: #67 hermeneutics

I'm getting my children dual citizenship in Chile. Its over.

My family has been in this country since 1650. And now we're seriously contemplating leaving.

Obama is not worthy of the White House. He bought the election. The MSM is complicit in his election. He came to power through fraud, ACORN, lies and deception.

Sorry, I cannot congraduate him on his election. He wasn't elected.

Into the brandy, are we? I'm no happier about this than you are, but I have no roots in Chile, no known relatives anywhere outside the US. But mostly, I just wanted to say, that fraud, lies, and deception are not anti-democratic, nor really is buying an election. And in this case, what I saw, was an electorate that just plain didn't care. They applied the golden rule of politics, when in doubt, flush the toilet.

Maybe, if the financial world had not collapsed right in the middle of this campaign, McCain would have had a prayer. Maybe ... lot of maybes, but they don't matter now. I'm not giving up on the country because of this, all I can say for right now is, I hope my liberal friend(s) are right, that there is something positive about this 0bambi, cuz I sure don't see it.

513 Bos2112  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:25pm

Wow - 2 sentences to McCain - real nice

514 doppelganglander  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:41pm

re: #453 CapeCoddah

They did not legalize pot. They decriminalized an ounce or less. Instead of arrest, (with the exception of DUI) they take the marijuana, and issue a $100 fine, like a speeding ticket. They made it civil rather than criminal. Anything over an ounce is still criminal.

Maybe I should move to Mass. I'm probably going to need some good stuff for the next couple of years.

515 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:43pm

re: #493 apb1

Word is, the Dhims at the top won't have to taste a bite...their moron constituents and those strapped into this carnival ride will.

Sorry Pennsylvania - re-electing the Murtha-Furcka just moved you below the intellect level of pond scum.

Hey, I sure didn't vote for him. Shall we say the people who did are the pond scum?

516 rp1138  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:01pm

I'm counting my blessings right now.

1. I'm no longer in the position where I have to defend John McCain. THANK GOD for that.

2. The Republican front runner for 2012 is a true conservative. And a pretty one at that. GO SARAH!

3. I was wise enough to pick up a bottle of Tequila at the store this weekend. GO JOSE CUERVO!

4. I've never enjoyed being on the inside pissing out. Now I get to be on the outside pissing in! And I've got a brand new blog to do it with, too. WOLVERINES!

Bottom line: Barack Hussein Obama WILL be my President.

But that doesn't mean I have to LIKE my President.

517 Parker in US  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:12pm

re: #507 Parker in US

OMG I think I am going to be sick.

fixed/

518 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:39pm

re: #461 golem786

I am disappointed, but grateful for your having enough composure to congratulate Obama. I hope any damage done in the next four years can be reversed.

Composure is for folks who are still in denial that political socialist re-education of their children is a real possibility.

In normal times I might agree with you.

This 'ain't it!"

Time to learn to protect yourself and your family from these socialist dogs because they have plans for you and yours.

NOT MY PRESIDENT ... thank God!

519 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:06:50pm

re: #384 Daisy

Is the 'g' in God actually a lower case 'g' or is that a typo?

Perhaps someone here's slightly dyslexic? I'm pretty sure that with the Kos Kid Kool Aid Kommunist Kook Klub™ it's really something like this:

dOg Blasphem AMerikA

520 leftover54  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:01pm

Unfortunately, thanks to the laws of NYS, I'm in a catagory financially to benefit from O's plans - if I decided to. I only hope that every single SOB that makes 50k or more and voted for this guy gets HAMMERED to the point they feel like I do right at this moment, everyday, for the next 4 years (and longer) ! This talk about "we will just re group and do better next time" is getting to me also. Do you not realize what our country may look like in 4 years ? Supreme Court appoint's. ALONE can, and most likely will, turn this country into something you will not recognize 4 years from now, with little hope in turning the clock backwards - maybe not in my lifetime at least. One doesn't even have to envision a "worst case scenario" to foresee what is very likely coming. The only hope I see will be that "events" we can not foresee coming into play and knocking him off his path. With Pelosi and crowd in there it won't be internal "events". The old saying "you can never go home again" is about to take on a nationwide perspective rather than a home town one. I want to be sooo wrong here, you can't imagine.

Fox News - I just can NOT believe what I am seeing. I wish like HELL I could be happy about it (the first African-American POTUS). I
Listening to "his" life story now - I really think I'm about to be sick. I want to watch something - Fox is not helping at all. If anyone puts a mic. in "Rev" (spit) Wrights face ...

521 RedVoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:02pm

*might be a repost*

I recognize the historic nature of this moment and the strides America has made in race relations, but I can not congratulate the oncoming storm.

Fairness doctrine, freedom of choice act, Union card checks, repeal of defense of marriage act, deep cuts in missile defense, a rigid withdrawl timeline for Iraq, socialized health care, environmental cap and trades which will cripple our energy industry, signing of the treaty to recognize an international court system and a radicalization of our education system.

i do not look forward to the appointment of judges who will rewrite the constitution to include an economic bill of rights, which will make income redistribution a constitutional right. Yet the boyscouts will be punished for choosing what kind of scout leaders they want around their kids.

John McCain is a great man and he went down to a fraud.

I have every reason to beleive that Obama will not govern from the center but try to institute change as soon as possible while he still has a mandate of sorts.

522 JeremiahRight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:23pm

goodbye Supreme Court
hello Fairness Doctrine
Oh, and Joe the Plumber,
you are now an Enemy of the State.
Good luck on filing your income taxes.
GODDAMMITTT!
I'm getting drunk tonight

523 FightingBack  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:33pm

Ok, Europe, we gave you want you wanted. Let's feel the love, Ok?

524 jayzee  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:41pm

I wonder if sites like this will be policed by the new civilian force?

525 lifeofthemind  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:51pm

The worst financial crises in a century? he is still an idiot.

526 pete(detroit)  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:02pm

re: #164 FortunateSon

At least I don't hear any gunfire here, in Dearborn..
I might be tempted to return it..

Yeah, Bummed, Pissed, and tispey - NOT a good combo
Hell, at least Medical Marijuana looks to pass, maybe I can get a perscription... Until then, 'nite for now, Lizzies.
Perhaps we wake unto a different tomorrow.
Perhaps we wake and MAKE a different tomorrow.

527 sngnsgt  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:17pm

Rush is going to be full of piss and vinegar tomorrow.

528 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:50pm

re: #460 Age Of Freedom

I wish, though you do realize there's a whole religion behind him?

yikes. that sums it up nicely.

529 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:56pm

re: #413 _RememberTonyC

I have the utmost respect for "Lizard Nation." And I wanted McCain to win very badly. But Obama is the President Elect. And it is in all of our interests for him to be succesful and lead this nation wisely. I pray he has the wisdom and good judgment to make mostly good decisions. I expect to disagree with him on many things. And I expect that he will require me to pay more taxes. But the man has a tough job and we need him to succeed. ...

We need him to succeed at what?!

Obama has a classic academic anti-American agenda. His goal will be to change America from its democratic, individualistic, capitalist foundation to a socialist, collectivist model.

530 Moe Katz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:00pm

What a bummer. Looking for a silver lining, I wonder what the chances are that this will kick off a little economic rally.

531 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:01pm

re: #427 Flavia

McCain's concession speech was one of the most beautiful political speeches it has ever been my privilege to hear. If we all behave the way he did tonight, it may not really matter who's in the White House.

But that's the problem - he lost to someone with next to no experience, who bought his way into power, who reneged on his "promise" to use public financing, who has no clue how to behave like John McCain, and who was elected by a majority of Americans who also have no clue...

532 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:01pm

re: #486 bellamags

i love you nyc redneck. (i'm a happy drunk)

i love you too {bellamags}
and i'm reaching for the bottle myself.

533 jcm  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:06pm

re: #471 realwest

I haven't been able to find out who created the -4 rating for this thread cause I keep losing LGF when I try, but I am embarrassed by those who voted negatively.
Whether or not we WANTED Obama for President, whether or not we think he'll do a good job as President, is irrelevent to the thoughtful comment made by Charles.
Country first, indeed.

Country First!
Life
Liberty
Property, and the existential Pursuit of Happiness.
and
Defense of the Constitution of the United States of America.

534 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:24pm

re: #468 martinleaf

McCain ran his election like the US fought the Vietnam war-- half assed. Why didn't McCain, of all people, fight to win ?


To those who worry for Israel, don't. Israel can take care of herself. The best thing that can happen to Israel is for Israel to become more independent of America, which Obama will force upon Israel.

Sorry to advise you mate but Israel as e now know her is F**Ked. Their window of opportunity to strike Iran is closing as we speak and the S-300s will be operational by early February and Israel is in pre-election limbo until then.

I would suggest not buying real estate in Israel unless you are keen on glass parking lots!

535 PSGInfinity  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:31pm

re: #384 Daisy

Is the 'g' in God actually a lower case 'g' or is that a typo?

No mistakes - Their Godhead won, his name is Hussein.
Remember - they're Utopians. They believe they ARE God.

536 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:34pm

re: #499 SpartanWoman

My only wish is that my child gets out of Israel alive

Praying for you.

537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:36pm

Oh, goodness. Told someone 2012 would start on Thursday. It just started. "I don't know if we'll get there in one year, or even in one term..."

It started on Wednesday. I was wrong again. Maybe that's why I'm fat!

538 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:55pm

re: #452 nigella

Charles, bare with us. I can't speak for all lizards, but this is a huge blow for us and America. Don't expect me to graciously accept this elections outcome. After weeks of stories of voter fraud, and a media who refused to show the real Obama , naturally a lot of us are extremely mad. To blindly accept Obama as our fairly elected POTUS is a lot to swallow.

It sure as hell is.

539 Archimedes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:09pm

re: #408 Quad Mocha Matti

It's gonna be difficult trying to keep my lips zipped even when I take the dogs out for a walk in the neighborhood, especially just down the street where at least 7 moonbats in a row live. They have clearly demonstrated they don't grasp the concept of thinking logically, and instead operate on feeling irrationally.

Yes, I've seen my fair share, but I see positive in this election. Obama will now be responsible for his actions. People will be paying attention, and the msm won't be able to cover up for him any longer. They've lied for two years about who he is, so when he acts on his agenda I expect to see a lot of complaining, and maybe even a revolt.

Take heart, a big time leftist can only acquire power in America through lies and obfuscations. The left is bankrupt and I'm predicting Obama is their last desperate gasp for power.

540 kynna  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:24pm

re: #454 ErislDysnomia

We need do get the word out to start a movement about this. Individuals are not enough.

Oh I agree. It needs to be organized so everyone knows which company to boycott for their sponsorship of which news outlet.

We should all put some thought into it. I don't watch TV but those are the best to boycott because of the nature of their advertisers. Newspapers are much more difficult.

I nominate CNN, although ABC (thanks to Gibson's attackerview of Palin) runs a close second. A big cable net might be the best for starters though.

Anyone watch CNN? What's an advertiser you see on every show?

Country First. And I think the way to get our country back is to get fairness back in the media. They really can't get away with what they've done here. They'll only do it again.

Oh, and just so I don't sound like a sour grape -- congrats, Obama. If nothing else, it's sure been an education.

God Bless America. No matter what.

541 Florida Lady  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:25pm

re: #527 sngnsgt

Rush is going to be full of piss and vinegar tomorrow.

I know I will feel better after listening to him. Somehow he always gets my spirits up when the political world appears to be crashing.

542 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:31pm

We need good news. Pelosi thought the dems would pick up what? 60 seats in the house?
They didn't even pick up a dozen, and she still has to deal with 45 blue-dog conservative democrats.
Reid won't have his 60 seat filibuster proof majority in the Senate. Close, but no cigar.
As you all go to sleep tonight, remember, it was bad, but it could have been much worse.
Pray for America, and that Mr. Obama realizes this is not a mandate from the American people for "change".
The Wall street financial meltdown, and the hatred of President Bush just about sealed McCain's fate.

543 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:42pm

re: #521 RedVoter

I have every reason to beleive that Obama will not govern from the center but try to institute change as soon as possible while he still has a mandate of sorts.

Please tell me - anyone - why we might expect Obama to be an honest president?

What evidence has there been to date about that?

544 CapeCoddah  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:48pm

re: #514 doppelganglander

Maybe I should move to Mass. I'm probably going to need some good stuff for the next couple of years.

It is beautiful here, along the coast, but, I do not recommend moving here right now!

545 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:59pm

I will always have the deepest respect for the office of the President of the USA .. oh my God he's already talking about a second term .. and now 'yes we can' .. and oh lordy, 4 years of Michelle Obama .. have mercy Lizards, I am trying to be gracious but I live in New York ... and I have to leave my house tomorrow.

546 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:00pm

re: #497 kevin the ox

Thanks, Charles. So I wonder, if the votes all come in and McCainactually wins, what would happen then? Conceding has only "stuck" whenthe guy who concedes actually loses, which is always before this. And Idon't think that's necessarily what's happening as we type, here.

Ihate to steal a word from the other team, but: have hope. It's not justa slogan. Things could look very different in just a few more hours.

Dude, do you know how the electoral college works?

547 Shortboard Surfer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:10pm

Sorry Guys; I think I just got deleted before because of my Viet Nam Service and my comments about serving under communism.

My PC comments: I wish to thank BHO for taking us down the yellow brick road to communism (PC=socalism). I would never want to question the will of the voters if they want to live in a socalist society. YES WE CAN; OBAMA. YES WE YES WE CAN; OBAMA. CAN; OBAMA.YES WE CAN; OBAMA. YES WE CAN; OBAMA.

548 Gitarzan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:25pm

re: #529 Peter Verkooijen

We need him to succeed at what?!

Obama has a classic academic anti-American agenda. His goal will be to change America from its democratic, individualistic, capitalist foundation to a socialist, collectivist model.

And our job is to block and blunt him every chance we can, because too many were dazzled by his "Hope!" and "Change!" bullshit...we may be down, but not out!

549 Salem  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:41pm

re: #453 CapeCoddah

They did not legalize pot. They decriminalized an ounce or less. Instead of arrest, (with the exception of DUI) they take the marijuana, and issue a $100 fine, like a speeding ticket. They made it civil rather than criminal. Anything over an ounce is still criminal.

Wow. Here in Colorado they usually just take it away (as long as you aren't driving or lie about it when they ask if you're carrying). At least in the city. In rural areas they probably still bust your ass.

550 apb1  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:59pm

re: #515 ErislDysnomia

Sorry - you hit the nail on the head. Those in Pennsylvania that voted for Murtha-Furcka have a lower intellect than pond scum.

The rest of you are in the same raft as the rest of us.

BTW - I live in Obamastan; Barry was no pride and joy, but he wasn't nearly as looney as Murtha. We DO still have our big Dick in the Senate - 'pol pot' Durbin.

551 jayzee  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:06pm

re: #530 Moe Katz

What a bummer. Looking for a silver lining, I wonder what the chances are that this will kick off a little economic rally.

Market down tomorrow I'd guess. If not tomorrow, give it a day or two.

552 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:07pm

re: #530 Moe Katz

No. We don't want an "economic rally." Please. We want The Zero to go on a spending spree -- thereby bankrupting the U.S. That way, the U.S. will be able to do less harm around the world. Ok? got that?

553 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:23pm

re: #500 lifeofthemind

As expected he says nothing, the mob bays and sways in unison, the crowd tolerates the requiered praise of McCain in sullen silence.

and i shrug my shoulders and feel like i've been sucker punched.
are the seas receding, yet?

554 Mauser  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:45pm

Can way say that this is now proof that Affirmative Action has done its job and is no longer needed?

555 MadJadBad  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:27pm

I'm a bit surprised by some of the comments here. BHO got elected as the president, not king. If the Democrats govern too far to the left, it will blow up in their faces because the economy will tank. Then in 2 years, maybe we could get another "first 100 days" like in 1994. Unfortunately, Bill Clinton got all the credit for the success of that Congress.

556 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:31pm

re: #540 kynna

And I think the way to get our country back is to get fairness back in the media.

As a social scientist who studies the nature of information and its flows, I can assure you the MSM has been the root cause of our current ills. A republic cannot function with a corrupt media.

The only way to change this will be to make it financially worthwhile for them to change ... or else to cease to exist.

557 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:42pm

re: #499 SpartanWoman

My only wish is that my child gets out of Israel alive

Tell them to make sure they do it before about the third quarter of '09!

558 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:42pm

I would vote for Barack Obama 5,000,000 times before I could vote once for Al Frankin.

I used to think he was funny.

What about Murtha? Please God! You gotta give me sumthin!

559 Moe Katz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:03pm

re: #545 Daisy

I will always have the deepest respect for the office of the President of the USA.

Yes, is is a very nice office. Hope they don't redecorate it too radically.

560 EA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:03pm

I'm going to bed; while I still can use it without government permission.

561 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:40pm

re: #462 arethusa

Obama speaks. So far I'm tolerant, but if he promises to turn back the rising waters again, I'm off to bed.

It's coming - look out...

562 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:54pm

re: #555 MadJadBad

I'm a bit surprised by some of the comments here. BHO got elected as the president, not king. If the Democrats govern too far to the left, it will blow up in their faces because the economy will tank. Then in 2 years, maybe we could get another "first 100 days" like in 1994. Unfortunately, Bill Clinton got all the credit for the success of that Congress.

s it true that most of congress up for reelection in 2010 are republicans as stated by Glenn Beck (I think) today?

563 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:55pm

I just don't have it in me to congratulate and be gracious to people who have spent this election cycle insulting my intelligence, insunuating that I'm a closet fascist/bigot/Nazi, belittling others' service to this country (including mine) and spewing a steady strem of lies, vitriol and propaganda for the benefit of their annointed community organizer. I"m not going to throw a hissy-fit over it like some people have been doing ever since W was in office, but they forefited any expectations of me being gracious when the MSM and 0bama lapdogs began implying that I was greedy, stupid and/or racist for not falling head over heels in love with their community organizer...

564 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:13pm

omg, he is so arrogant and full of it. a smarmy preacher.
and now the 'yes we can' b.s.

565 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:16pm

re: #524 jayzee

I wonder if sites like this will be policed by the new civilian force?

Fairness Doctrine - Like it or not. How can it be bad if it's fair?

566 Shortboard Surfer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:20pm

Sorry again Guys. I forgot the sarc tag in #547

Here it is

/ (sorta)

567 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:21pm

re: #485 realwest

You must have misunderstood my question.

568 NY Nana  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:27pm

re: #358 jayzee

OY. Think he'll make Rashidi ambassador to Israel?

He probably already has.

569 Biff  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:35pm

McCain failed his party and his country (this time) by refusing to do what it took to take Obama down. His decision was that it was better to lose with grace and his concept of honor, than to expose Obama for the fraud and terrorist sympathiser that he is. Furthermore, McCain was more intent with distancing himself from President Bush, than supporting the administration's successes in homeland security and in Iraq. The Bush administration correctly and repeatedly warned Congress and the nation of the ensuing credit crisis beginnning in 2003, yet McCain at first refused to attack Frank and Dodd, the major obstructionists and perpetrators of the crisis, and then attempted to take credit for his own feeble legislative attempts in 2005. Had McCain reserved half the venom he used on Mitt Romney for Sen. Obama, he might have had a chance. The next time he crosses the aisle - he might as well just stay there.

Love Sarah, though. Much of her supposed downfall was the insistance of the McCain campaign that she memorize and stick to the McCain talking points, and the ludicrous shilling for the "Maverick". Once she dropped that schtick and regained her own voice, she was luminous, coherent, and smart.

570 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:40pm

re: #558 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I would vote for Barack Obama 5,000,000 times before I could vote once for Al Frankin.

I used to think he was funny.

What about Murtha? Please God! You gotta give me sumthin!

Murtha must bring home some really juicy pork.

571 Know Your Enemy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:51pm

Say goodbye, Rush.

572 Abu Lahab  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:20pm

I'm wondering why some people are overdramatizing this? America is a live country, a creative one, a real democracy, a proud leader of the free world, and a magnificent example of coexistence and victory.
I find Charles congratulations simply classy. Actually throughout the entire elections it was so informative, rumors-free, and objective news that we got to read here.
This blog remained so "clean" throughout the entire elections. It was a wonderful source of information and it made a difference for me to visit it daily.
I really think we owe our host, Charles, a big thank you. I bet that took too much time and energy.
Thank you, Charles.

573 nyc redneck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:20pm

my heart is chilled.

574 SeafoodGumbo  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:25pm

As Obama speaks, Bill Ayers is in that audience in front of him, smiling.

Like the other lizards earlier in the thread, the words President O___ will never come out of my mouth.

575 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:45pm

re: #530 Moe Katz

What a bummer. Looking for a silver lining...

Free gas. Complimentary mortgages.

576 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:49pm

re: #559 Moe Katz

Yes, is is a very nice office. Hope they don't redecorate it too radically.

Some nice Che posters ought to cheer the place up.

577 ShanghaiRay  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:17pm

Well, I respect everyone on here wanting to be magnanimous about it all and truly thank Charles for all he's done during this election and also world issues that deeply concern all of us.

However, I will not and do not congratulate him. He is a despot in the making and to congratulate him would be like thanking the guard before entering the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Thanks but no thanks. This entire congratulatory, conciliatory, thank you for screwing me in the rear attitude most conservatives exhibit was the reason for our downfall in this election. McCain practiced it with great finesse and look at him today. At his age, he had nothing to lose since he's in the twilight of his life but think about all the young people who never had a chance to grow up in the America most of us have grown up in.

This is not a day of celebration, it's a day of mourning. A National Day of Mourning.

For months I’ve been bitching about Hussein and watched this site and others call him every name in the book, all mostly justified, and for me to congratulate him now would be super hypocritical on my part.

That said, we are all free to say and do what we please in this dying Democracy so knock yourselves out...but not me, sorry.

578 Defogger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:20pm

An African American has won the Presidency. There is something good to be said for that. Perhaps we can put that "all whites are racists" crap behind us, now, and start believing that ANYONE can succeed in America.

Except Joe the Plumber.

579 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:51pm

re: #563 Fenway_Nation

I just don't have it in me to congratulate and be gracious to people who have spent this election cycle insulting my intelligence, insunuating that I'm a closet fascist/bigot/Nazi, belittling others' service to this country (including mine) and spewing a steady strem of lies, vitriol and propaganda for the benefit of their annointed community organizer. I"m not going to throw a hissy-fit over it like some people have been doing ever since W was in office, but they forefited any expectations of me being gracious when the MSM and 0bama lapdogs began implying that I was greedy, stupid and/or racist for not falling head over heels in love with their community organizer...

/couldn't have said it better myself!

580 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:33pm

re: #555 MadJadBad

I'm a bit surprised by some of the comments here. BHO got elected as the president, not king. If the Democrats govern too far to the left, it will blow up in their faces because the economy will tank. Then in 2 years, maybe we could get another "first 100 days" like in 1994. Unfortunately, Bill Clinton got all the credit for the success of that Congress.

It is VERY obvious that you have NEVER lived under socialism mate.

You have a hard learning curve to climb. It'll be cruel but you will at least have the US Republic scales 'fallen from your eyes!'

Then you might be able to say stuff like that above!

581 Adrenalyn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:36pm

well, this certainly proves there is no god

I don't know what to say without getting deleted
but I feel the fight is on to take back the land of our birth

John McCain was the worst candidate the Republican party ever fielded
George Bush was the worst President

all in my opinion

but look at the results

McCain should have won every state
all he had to do was fight
not even fight, just raise a few issues

another cliche' undone tonight
the meek shall not inherit the earth
McCain and soft speaking Republicans of the Bush era lost this for us

I personally don't feel we should give in to the "victory" here.
It was not a fair fight, after all.


RIP republican party 1854-2008

582 LaForzadelDestino  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:41pm

We are expected to respect the office of the President of the US. I'm willing to do that. I've always done that.

But he must respect the office of the POTUS too. He owes that much to the American people.

Country first!

583 Palandine  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:45pm

re: #491 Karridine

Who is John Galt? ;)

584 Parker in US  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:48pm

re: #541 Florida Lady

I know I will feel better after listening to him. Somehow he always gets my spirits up when the political world appears to be crashing.


Rush addressed this long time ago "We had to endure Carter to get Regan". Well welcome to Carter II.

585 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:57pm

re: #554 Mauser

Can way say that this is now proof that Affirmative Action has done its job and is no longer needed?

If only.

586 bellamags  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:59pm

re: #554 Mauser

Can way say that this is now proof that Affirmative Action has done its job and is no longer needed?

Affirmative Action has failed us miserably.

587 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:07pm

re: #327 I need a bigger gun

Filibuster every nomination. There is no actual set in stone number of justices...

IF, big if here, IF Ohio and California both flipped McCain could win. Not counting on it though but who knows how the night will turn out...

Resigning to the fact of POTUS elect Obomassieh... I do not like it and do not relish the idea of the O' being in charge nor Biden being a heartbeat away from the job nor Pelosi being that second heartbeat away from it either... I remember the Carter presidency and do not look forward to the next four years. Mebbe it will take overdosing on "liberal" (socialist/marxist) Democrack rule to shove us to the brink of disaster or worse before we grow up again as a nation...

For the rest of the lizards I apologize for the machine politics of PA handing this state to the O'.

If McCain is unwilling to fight the voter fraud and unwilling to drag this out to the last court case etc considering the alternative it just proves he is a man who should never have been nominated in the first place... History is full of honorable men who let evil win rather than get to dirty/muddy fighting it...

/I just can't believe we're this collectively stupid...

588 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:29pm

re: #577 ShanghaiRay

Well, I respect everyone on here wanting to be magnanimous about it all and truly thank Charles for all he's done during this election and also world issues that deeply concern all of us.

However, I will not and do not congratulate him. He is a despot in the making and to congratulate him would be like thanking the guard before entering the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Thanks but no thanks. This entire congratulatory, conciliatory, thank you for screwing me in the rear attitude most conservatives exhibit was the reason for our downfall in this election. McCain practiced it with great finesse and look at him today. At his age, he had nothing to lose since he's in the twilight of his life but think about all the young people who never had a chance to grow up in the America most of us have grown up in.

This is not a day of celebration, it's a day of mourning. A National Day of Mourning.

For months I’ve been bitching about Hussein and watched this site and others call him every name in the book, all mostly justified, and for me to congratulate him now would be super hypocritical on my part.

That said, we are all free to say and do what we please in this dying Democracy so knock yourselves out...but not me, sorry.

I agree.

There's been too many negatives, all of Obama's design, for him to get graciousness from conservatives.

589 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:34pm

re: #578 Defogger

An African American has won the Presidency. There is something good to be said for that. Perhaps we can put that "all whites are racists" crap behind us, now, and start believing that ANYONE can succeed in America.

Except Joe the Plumber.

Hear hear.

590 capitalist piglet  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:39pm

Someone on HotAir just said there is unrest (they called it rioting?) outside the White House right now - on FNC, I guess.

591 Irish Rose  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:44pm

I can't stop crying.
I'm done.

592 Adrenalyn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:54pm

re: #582 LaForzadelDestino

We are expected to respect the office of the President of the US. I'm willing to do that. I've always done that.

But he must respect the office of the POTUS too. He owes that much to the American people.

Country first!

two words

Bill Clinton

593 mjwsatx  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:29pm

I now know how southerners must have felt when Lincoln was elected. I feel the essential nature of this nation as we know it will be changed forever.

Charles, I am prepared to be gracious and accept Barack Obama as our next President because the People - led by their noses by the MSM - elected him fair and square. Are you and the other lizards going to be gracious when the un-Fairness Doctrine is reenacted and the Federal Government starts to "crack down" on "hate speech" on the internet on "hateful" right-wing blogs such as LGF?

I'll be gracious, but I fear for my nation. This is a sad day for the USA.

594 Moe Katz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:18pm

re: #576 Daisy

Some nice Che posters ought to cheer the place up.

LOL

595 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:21pm

re: #394 cliffster

To all the people saying we're screwed - we aren't screwed. In order to win, democrats had to say they were going to cut taxes, keep the budget under control, and be tough overseas. Even if everything they said was a lie, that's still the line they used and that's what people bought, and that's why they won. They won by being Conservative.

So we have taken the most liberal senator and made him into a center-right guy.

No we haven't. We have the most liberal senator pretend to be conservative etc to get elected. Hopefully he won't do to much damage in his, hopefully, one term...

596 Biff  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:29pm

Rush is going to rip McCain tomorrow like you wouldn't believe. Rush has been a great soldier for the GOP side in all of this, and has attacked Obama as the candidate should have, but he has always known that the GOP cannot win from the middle, and cannot abandon, let alone disdain, its principals and accomplishments.

597 yesandno  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:45pm

I will be kind to the new President Elect...give him time to define himself...something he didn't do prior to his election. I wish him well and will keep him in my prayers as events unfold as they must do. It will not be an easy job and he will often need our support.

However, Michelle My Belle will never be my First Lady...only his. He has to live with her, I don't.

598 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:52pm

re: #581 Adrenalyn


George Bush was the worst President

No , the MSM made him appear that way.

His lack of response to the MSM was his worst deficit.

599 Shortboard Surfer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:58pm

I said to my wife that if BHO wins, I hope that HE has the majority in the congress and the senate, that way, BHO and those leftover 60s radicals will have a clear path to show the world what their true agenda really is.

600 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:08pm

Brit Hume just said something about the extended families (of Obama and Biden) coming out on the stage. Wonder if the aunt is there?

601 slicerdicer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:26pm

I think it is time for us more Conservative types to take the gloves off. For the years of Reagan and for the last 7.5+ years I've endured having my most conservative selection for President that had any possibly to win called every hateful, demeaning and derogatory word in the book. I've taken this insult on my selection of my Presidents with patience and tolerance with the thought that maybe these insulters will grow up. It now seems that I have been an enabler because these little spoiled children have only gotten worst.
Now I'm going to speak my mind, you know that Freedom of speech thing that is still in the Constitution, and they better get use to it. I do think Barry is a Marxist with big ears. I think Barry is an empty suit with someone behind the scenes pulling the strings, probably Soros. Barry is nothing but an anarchist just like his followers, he's not fooling me or millions of other Americans! In my house he will be called Barry. God help my country...
Marxism = no individual freedoms or rights!

602 Captkirk35  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:35pm

This feels an awful lot like '92. The Clinton bandwagon started emptying about six weeks into his term, if I recall, and completely emptied by '94. I expect the same thing to happen.

603 Biff  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:02pm

It should have been JC Watts.

604 ROP?LOL  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:08pm

re: #524 jayzee

I wonder if sites when like this will be policed by the new civilian force?

605 Seattle Rep  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:13pm

re: #472 Aussie Infidel

Good on ya mate! Whereabouts in Oz are you from? I used to live in Melbourne, and Canberra.

606 kevin the ox  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:29pm

re: #546 scratch

Yes , scratch, of course I do.

What I'm wondering about is the legality of this whole "concession" thing. It's the electoral votes of the states that make a president, based on (or at least heavily influenced by; they can override) the popular vote tallied precinct by precinct, not some guy saying "here you go" to another.

Until all those electoral votes are in, my friend, it's not over.

What if everyone woke up in the morning to a number of states that everyone thought were Obama's actually came out to be for McCain, and McCain ended up with more than 270 of those electoral votes? What would a concession be worth in that case? That's my question. It's a situation that's never occurred before. It could actually be happening right now.

607 BigDog  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:58pm

Well crap!

608 baxtrice  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:03pm

Ron Paul!

/Paultard

(sorry couldn't help myself)

609 Max Darkside  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:12pm

re: #503 J.S.

I am in total agreement with your sentiments! (I just pray that the Zero bankrupts the U.S. treasury -- the faster and sooner he does so, the better!)

It is happening. Don't wish for this. You DO NOT want the result regardless of who is in the White House.

610 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:20pm

re: #593 mjwsatx

I am prepared to be gracious and accept Barack Obama as our next President because the People - led by their noses by the MSM - elected him fair and square.

This is contradictory. The people elected him through being deliberately misinformed. That is not "fair and square" in my book.

611 RedVoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:22pm

re: #543 ErislDysnomia

Please tell me - anyone - why we might expect Obama to be an honest president?

What evidence has there been to date about that?

none, he's a fraud.

our only hope is his opportunist side will overtake his radical side and he'll somewhat govern from the center to try and keep power. I doubt it, and that wouldn't stop him from electing radical judges to carry out his legacy.

612 Shortboard Surfer  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:05pm

re: #576 Daisy

And an american flag burning cheerily in the fireplace.

613 right_in_canada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:27pm

You know readin posts hear reminds me of how I felt when Jean Chretien was elected landslides to PM office...3 times ! (93, 97 and '00) I can feel your pain folks I truly do feel for you! :'-(

614 Captkirk35  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:46pm

re: #43 ArmyWife

Yup

Time to set priorities. Time to mold this party into a small government, budget cutting, fiscally responsible, low tax, 2nd amendment supporting, strong military, fearless machine with teeth. All is not lost.

615 TnTx13  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:11pm

Geez - Grant Park really DOES look like Nurnburg...

616 Biff  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:13pm

re: #577 ShanghaiRay

Well said.

617 Moe Katz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:17pm

re: #603 Biff

It should have been JC Watts.

He would have turned every issue into a political football.

618 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:32pm

re: #609 Max Darkside

why wouldn't I want a bankrupt United States? Isn't that Obama's "plan"? -- and shouldn't we all be expected to "respect" the POTUS?

619 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:34pm

what's the deal with the Senate?

620 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:45pm

re: #581 Adrenalyn

well, this certainly proves there is no god

I don't know what to say without getting deleted
but I feel the fight is on to take back the land of our birth

John McCain was the worst candidate the Republican party ever fielded
George Bush was the worst President

all in my opinion

but look at the results

McCain should have won every state
all he had to do was fight
not even fight, just raise a few issues

another cliche' undone tonight
the meek shall not inherit the earth
McCain and soft speaking Republicans of the Bush era lost this for us

I personally don't feel we should give in to the "victory" here.
It was not a fair fight, after all.


RIP republican party 1854-2008

You've got to be kidding. "Just raise a few issues"? Really, that's all it would take?

Jeez, to think if McCain had just raised a few issues, he would have won every state.

The fact is that the electorate did not show an inclination to believe much of anything McCain said, and at any rate the media certainly did not show an inclination to tell them that he had said it.

621 Cactus Pete  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:50pm

I just lowered Old Glory to half mast.
With a tear im my eye.

Maybe I'll feel better tomorrow.

Good night, fellow Lizards. Try to keep your chins up - I will do the same.

622 coyotl  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:53pm

Indeed, Country First. Sad to see he lost, but as what I'd like to define as an optimistic realist, I can't say I didn't believe this was coming. Overall, there was so much riding against McCain and so much in favor of Obama. The blatant media and organizational aid/stonewalling, failure on the McCain side to unify his ideas and take the fight to Obama and openly call him on his faults and dangerously foolish ideas hamstringed conservative efforts heavily imo. The second and third order effects of this election almost every regard of American life and government are rather large in my opinion, many of them grave. It's not the end, but I'd say something of a bleak understatement to simply dismiss this as a bad turn for America. The upside, nearly just as many who voted for him, voted against him. We are not alone, not by a long shot. Got two years to bring it together and start rolling some of this back.

623 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:01pm

I'm certain I would feel less angst about Obama's election if I still had some degree of confidence in the freedom of the press/media in this country. It's the combination that's terrible. Hope a good night's sleep allows me to take in some of the more positive comments posted here.

624 CascadeMermaid  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:32pm

re: #385 SheikYabouti

Can I offer some objectivity?

As an Australian, I felt the same way when Kevin Rudd was elected Prime Minister of Australia. In a year his government has achieved absolutely nothing (as I predicted). The Australian public has woken up to the fact that he is a fraud and his government is essentially useless. We are now counting down to 2010 to correct this error and remove this stain permanently.

I understand that BHO is probably 10 times worse than Rudd, but you must focus on 3 things:
- Questioning his decisions and highlighting the errors
- The mid-term elections, and
- Replacing him in 4 years (if he is not impeached by then).

Stay sane people, it is only temporary.

Thanks, we all needed that...

625 Archimedes  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:39pm

re: #578 Defogger

An African American has won the Presidency. There is something good to be said for that. Perhaps we can put that "all whites are racists" crap behind us, now, and start believing that ANYONE can succeed in America.

Except Joe the Plumber.

Not true. Lots of people voted for him because he was black, which is racist. I'm afraid this is just the truth. I was forced to listen to about 5 minutes of CNN this morning, and they interviewed a black woman, and their whole focus was on her voting for a black president, then they brought up something about the KKK threatening people where she was when she was young. Why bring this sort of thing up during the election? Answer, to inculcate guilt among whites so that they vote for a black guy so that they won't be associated with the kkk. I mean, this is why I believe they did this.

626 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:44pm

re: #605 Seattle Rep

Good on ya mate! Whereabouts in Oz are you from? I used to live in Melbourne, and Canberra.

Currently in the Peoples' Demokratik Republik of New Zealand.

Heading back to Oz if Comrade lark somehow cobbles together a coalition of disparate socialists. If John Key gets in I may stay awhile longer until we see the back of PM Rudd (erless)

627 loup-garou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:45pm

Country first.

drink up lizards.

628 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:48pm

re: #521 RedVoter + #578 Defogger

I recognize the historic nature of this moment and the strides America has made in race relations, but I can not congratulate the oncoming storm. ...

Even the race thing is a total fraud. Obama was raised by his white mother and grandparents. He is NOT a descendant of slaves in America. His Kenyan father, who he never really knew, was an Arab. The Arabs were slave traders in Africa.

Without the cultural or historical background, it's just down to skin color. Even then you can't really argue Obama ever grew up experiencing the infamous American racism. He grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia. Later in life he only benefited from his skin color.

629 RememberSekhmet?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:22pm

The American people voted for an ad campaign, and not a leader. My black co-workers are more qualified and have had more achievements to their names than this no-talent assclown. So why is it that some educated, accomplished blacks feel they have to take the first twit who comes along with the right skin color?

And furthermore---I work tech support for a high-end computer company, whose market share is only now starting to grow---just in time for a good portion of their potential customers to either get smacked with 0's taxes, or have to send their computer-shoppin' money overseas to avoid said taxes. So what happens to my job when people stop buying our computers? I'd make an awful welfare queen.

All the flags and stars and stripes I had in my yard I took down. Dissent is patriotic, don't you know. And besides, if the Left are such frakkin good Americans, let them fly their flags---that is, if they don't spontaneously combust on physical contact with red, white, and blue.

So fine, if Hussein the Twit is going to be my President, I reserve the right to call him any damn thing I want to. If he costs me my job, or I get hit in some terror attack, he had better not reach out to me---he'd pull back a bloody stump.

630 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:27pm

re: #623 Daisy

I'm certain I would feel less angst about Obama's election if I still had some degree of confidence in the freedom of the press/media in this country. It's the combination that's terrible. Hope a good night's sleep allows me to take in some of the more positive comments posted here.

We must retake the media.

631 Granite Eagle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:42pm

One thing is for certain...the GOP needs to hold the moonies accountable for what they have done the past 2 years, and what they will do the next 2 years. Begin to draw the differences immediately...with every move the moonbats make. That has not been done, and we know the Moonie campaign machine has been on the attack for years...

So for now...the people have spoken...
January 20th...the hangover begins...

632 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:15pm

Re the Check-pants/country club Republican party--I say, let the recriminations begin! This was "I'm Bob Dole" all over again. Ugh...

633 coloradobuff  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:43pm

Unlike the Boulderite liberals that for eight years have said that Bush was not their President, I will say that Barack Obama will be my President. I am not happy about it, but facts are facts.

However, I have no confidence that he will be any more moderate in his views as President than what he has shown during his short time in the Senate. Given some of the outlandish ideas being floated publicly in Congress, such as a 25% reduction in defense spending, and elimination of the 401(k) tax deferral, I am quite fearful of the future, both for my family and my country. I can't be any more positive at this point.

634 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:58pm

re: #627 loup-garou

Country first.

drink up lizards.

NOT my F**King PRESIDENT

Thank God


There ya go for all you Yanks who are thinking it!

635 JeremiahRight  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:23pm

don't blame me, I voted for the other guy.
/Mitt Romney

I still say his speech at CPAC was the best of any candidate who ran. Go watch it again, it's well worth it

636 VioletTiger  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:22pm

re: #615 TnTx13

Geez - Grant Park really DOES look like Nurnburg...

I can't turn the tv on

637 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:43pm

Kenyans are celebrating tonight, and something about that fact does do my heart good. I can well appreciate the natural pride and joy of black Americans as well, and it moves me to know this election is the fruit that began w/the the Abolitionist movement. I only wish it wasn't Obama they were celebrating.

638 yesandno  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:32:12pm

re: #572 Abu Lahab

I'm wondering why some people are overdramatizing this? America is a live country, a creative one, a real democracy, a proud leader of the free world, and a magnificent example of coexistence and victory.
I find Charles congratulations simply classy. Actually throughout the entire elections it was so informative, rumors-free, and objective news that we got to read here.
This blog remained so "clean" throughout the entire elections. It was a wonderful source of information and it made a difference for me to visit it daily.
I really think we owe our host, Charles, a big thank you. I bet that took too much time and energy.
Thank you, Charles.


We are not a democracy...we are a REPUBLIC.

If you don't understand that, then you don't understand why people are upset. Because the Founders did not set up a democracy, they rejected it.

And we are not A proud leader of the free world..we are THE leader of the free world.

Words have meaning and starting now, we all need to know what we say when we say it. If more people understood what made this country what it is today, the results would be different.

The high price of ignorance...coming to all of us in the near future.

639 Moe Katz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:32:13pm

re: #622 coyotl

Indeed, Country First. Sad to see he lost, but as what I'd like to define as an optimistic realist, I can't say I didn't believe this was coming. Overall, there was so much riding against McCain and so much in favor of Obama.

Just the mere fact of being at the end of a two-term presidency and going into a sharp economic downturn pretty well dooms the incumbent party.

640 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:32:17pm

re: #629 RememberSekhmet?

The American people voted for an ad campaign,

Well you bring up folks who are just mall-rat consumers and what do you expect?

641 Moe Katz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:33:57pm

re: #637 Daisy

Kenyans are celebrating tonight, and something about that fact does do my heart good. I can well appreciate the natural pride and joy of black Americans as well, and it moves me to know this election is the fruit that began w/the the Abolitionist movement. I only wish it wasn't Obama they were celebrating.

My sentiments exactly.

642 mayor of imaginationland  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:32pm

I need a hundred beers. Exactly one hundred thank you.

643 right_in_canada  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:15pm

re: #634 Aussie Infidel


What he said ! ;-)

644 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:26pm

re: #638 yesandno


We are not a democracy...we are a REPUBLIC.


The high price of ignorance...coming to all of us in the near future.

SNAP.

At last a Yank who actually is smart enough to GET IT!

645 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:37pm

Perhaps Saul Alinski's (and Bill Ayres') dream is about to be realized. They couldn't take the country by classic revolution so they adopted the termite tactic... Wealth redistribution coming down the pike...

646 scratch  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:37pm

re: #606 kevin the ox

Yes , scratch, of course I do.

WhatI'm wondering about is the legality of this whole "concession" thing.It's the electoral votes of the states that make a president, based on(or at least heavily influenced by; they can override) the popular votetallied precinct by precinct, not some guy saying "here you go" toanother.

Until all those electoral votes are in, my friend, it's not over.

Whatif everyone woke up in the morning to a number of states that everyonethought were Obama's actually came out to be for McCain, and McCainended up with more than 270 of those electoral votes? What would aconcession be worth in that case? That's my question. It's a situationthat's never occurred before. It could actually be happening right now.

Sorry I was snippy. Yes, the concession is meaningless in the actual rules of the election. But these races are being called by people who know where the votes are coming from. It would be like if you were watching this race with a bunch of French people in Paris, and McCain had all but lost, and one of the Fenchies said, "But look! McCain is only down by 1.3 million votes, and they haven't even counted San Francisco, New York, or Boston! There are plenty of votes there to put him over the top!" You, understanding the nature of those uncounted areas, would sadly give him the bad news.

Yes, a wrong call is made now and then, but the uncounted vote is not just a percentage...it's a knowledge of which areas have been counted and which have not.

647 Zippy_Slug  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:26pm

well.. we're fuckd..

let's hope at least booze will be legal.. yeah.. dear fearless obama..

648 Quad Mocha Matti  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:37:04pm

re: #474 ted

I got Prozac.

Celexa and Wellbutrin Here! HECK YEAH!

649 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:37:12pm

Canada, by default, had its first female prime minister. She stank.
Simply because Obama let his skin colour do the talking doesn't mean it is a vindication of anything. The man has admitted to opening his arms to tyrants, letting infants die in closets rather than allowing them to have proper medical care, wanting to take the money off of hard-working people and give it to bums and fill the Supreme Court with men of his choosing. How are black Americans to feel proud of a man with no scruples whatsoever? This "victory" would only mean something if Obama had morals and know-how to lead a nation. He does not.

650 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:37:26pm

re: #645 manalive

Yes, well, let's just all hope that Obama immediately allots trillions and trillions in new spending. What's there to lose, eh?

651 Moe Katz  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:37:27pm

re: #634 Aussie Infidel

NOT my F**King PRESIDENT

Thank God


There ya go for all you Yanks who are thinking it!

We'll all pay the price, though, not just those in the US.

652 Former Belgian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:53pm

Good night from "the 51st State", where I "awoke to a morning with no reason for waking"...

Who won?
* The C[r]ook County political machine
* The New Class
* The lame-stream media, swinging what was their last chance ever to swing an election
* race hucksters

Who lost?
* anti-Islamofascism
* America
* America's true allies
* freedom, as opposed to both dhimmitude and economic serfdom

If you guys are LUCKY, the president-elect will be a crooked hack politician in the time-honored Chicago tradition.

If you guys are UNLUCKY, he will create a mess that his successors will take decades to unscramble.

Bismarck once wrote: "G-d watches over drunks, fools, and the United States of America". May G-d watch over you, guys: you're gonna need it.

I pray that I am wrong, and for G-d to enlighten the eyes of the president-elect. But I fear I am right.

653 expat canuck  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:15pm

Let's hope that capable conservatives will come forward to take control of the Republican party and lead us to victory in four years.

654 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:07pm

What there is to lose is... well--our economic freedom for one thing. Plus, get ready for Carter-style inflation.

655 So?  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:41pm

re: #4 Macker

ISRAEL: ATTACK NOW!

They have...in gaza.

656 soxfan4life  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:23pm

Thank you President George Bush, the horrendous job you have done over the last 4 years made this sad moment in our history possible. But hopefully this is the worst part of the storm. The Democrats will soon learn that when you run on a platform of change, and you fail to deliver you get taken out to the woodshed quickly. Let's work feverishly to regain control of our country, and find the next Ronald Reagan to fix what President Obama will inflict upon us. I'm not sure if the 8% unemployment or 18% interest rate mortgage gives me more of a tingle. How soon until the MSM or one of the MSNBC stooges turn on the great one when he fails to deliver on a promise?

657 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:29pm

re: #651 Moe Katz

We'll all pay the price, though, not just those in the US.

I KNOW IT!

But the difference between you and me is that i can call Obama everything for what he is, try to undermine him at every turn, and not have to recognize him as my PRESIDENT thank God!

658 Daisy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:43pm

re: #630 ErislDysnomia

We must retake the media.

True enough. That's happening here --- thank God for Charles laying a strong foundation --- and across the internet.

We really have to stay on top of defeating the Fairness Doctrine .. although if people like Rush are forced to air leftists maybe it can be approached the way Canadian TV's w/John Candy etc handled the matter when forced to come up w/nationalistic Canadian time - remember "eh?", hunting jackets, funny hats, lots of beer and "hosers"? Beat 'em at their own game.

659 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:43:26pm

re: #654 manalive

O don't worry -- hell, Obama will be paying for your mortgages, not to mention all health care, and, say, how about free college tuitions, eh? c'mon. It's all there -- for the taking...yeah, get all those wealthy bastar*ds...make 'em pay! Down with Wall Street!

660 notutopia  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:44:52pm

Realwest, I know you're out there and maybe have not been able to get into the site. I sure could use some of your kind hearted and gracious words right now.
But, I think I already know what they'd be.
G'Nite Fellow Lizards. I'm spent on emotion and energy.

661 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:19pm

Two VERY disconcerting statements of "The One" ring in my ears:

"We will fundamental ly transform the United States of America."
and:
"We need a NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE as big and well funded as our military."

662 Aussie Infidel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:32pm

Dinner time

Later lizards.

663 Granite Eagle  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:20pm

re: #614 Captkirk35

Yup

Time to set priorities. Time to mold this party into a small government, budget cutting, fiscally responsible, low tax, 2nd amendment supporting, strong military, fearless machine with teeth. All is not lost.

Where it should have been all along...
Make no mistake...there will be international crises and the O will stumble and look like Clinton...show himself to be a sheep on defense...Dare I say that based upon what just happened...our enemies WILL be emboldened...
Also...after everyone wakes up and see their taxes raised and disposable income dissappear...they will begin to ask ..."I elected who?"
2 issues that the GOP can begin to address...like right now!

664 Former Belgian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:47pm
665 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:53pm

re: #496 democast

You'd be thinking otherwise if you were Zionistic or Israeli.

I truly hope not. I'm not Israeli, and I'm not Jewish, but I have always considered myself a staunch supporter of the Israeli people. I'd be remiss if I claimed I didn't have serious doubts about Obama's intentions toward the State of Israel. However, just as America will survive an Obama presidency, so will Israel. Despite Obama's lurid associations with anti-Semites and troubling statements he's made in support of the "Palestinian" state (not to mention his warm and fuzzy inclinations toward the Iranian government), I find consolation in the fact that once Senator Obama assumes the presidency, he'll be confronted with "realpolitik". Namely, that whatever his intentions, he'll have to face the fact that a majority of Americans support the state of Israel, and that Israel will still have influential supporters in Congress, despite the fact that the Democrats will enjoy a solid majority in both houses. And let's not forget that even when the newfound Israeli state enjoyed little if any international support, even among Americans, the Israeli people faced down their numerically superior enemies through faith in God and sheer force of will, and prevailed.

It's wise to be wary and ever-vigilant, especially in Israel's situation. Despair, however, serves no purpose.

666 Former Belgian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:44pm
667 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:59pm

re: #581 Adrenalyn

well, this certainly proves there is no god

I don't know what to say without getting deleted
but I feel the fight is on to take back the land of our birth

John McCain was the worst candidate the Republican party ever fielded
George Bush was the worst President

all in my opinion

but look at the results

McCain should have won every state
all he had to do was fight
not even fight, just raise a few issues

another cliche' undone tonight
the meek shall not inherit the earth
McCain and soft speaking Republicans of the Bush era lost this for us

I personally don't feel we should give in to the "victory" here.
It was not a fair fight, after all.


RIP republican party 1854-2008

If you think the fight is on to reclaim the land of our birth, why does the rest of your post sound as if you've given up?

668 CPTSCI  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:51:15pm

Such negativity! Beyond the immediate disappointment of not having a conservative elected into office, acknowledging the victor and standing together as Americans is most honorable and patriotic. The closest analogy Americans can have to "The king is dead. Long live the king!". Rather than bemoan the circumstances, let us hope (it's not a bad word) that our president-elect will be our greatest leader yet!

669 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:33pm

re: #642 mayor of imaginationland

I need a hundred beers. Exactly one hundred thank you.

Skip the beer. Proceed to liquor. It works faster.

670 Majestic  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:52pm

worthless republican party. that pretty much sums it up.

671 Brooklyn  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:53:40pm

I've got to admit that Obama just gave a good speech. I'm hoping he isn't the Manchurian Candidate from SDS. I think there's a chance he's not.

I'll be watching him like a hawk (in both meanings of the word). And if he really is that Manchurian Candidate, I'll be hoping that 2010 is a repeat of 1994, and I'll be doing everything I can to make it happen just like that.

672 hooligan  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:46pm

I would like to be all glass half-full and congrats to the winner and all...I had no problem with that during the Clinton era..politics goes through cycles..but this time is different. It's more than the complete disagreement with his projected economic and social policies. It's all tied up with my fears for what this means for Israel at such a dangerous time. It's hard for me to articulate but surely this foreboding is not inherently disrespectful to the president-elect?

If America abandons Israel under his leadership the shame of it will be awful.


(I do respect the office of the President as set forth in the Constitution.)

673 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:07pm

Being in the LOYAL OPPOSITION is one thing--but wishing a utopian socialist a successful presidency is out of the question. Yes, he is my president, but I will fight his socialist/freedom stealing policies all I can!

674 J.S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:52pm

re: #668 CPTSCI

Say, lots and lots of us are real positive! The Zero will be re-allocating monies -- taking from the rich and the military and Corporate
America, etc., to give to -- well, let's just say, "the more deserving." yeah, all right! Now that's something we can all appreciate, eh?

675 AussieMarcus  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:05pm

re: #385 SheikYabouti

Feel the same way. Although to be fair Rudd is much closer to the centre, and far less likely to utterly stuff the country up than Obama.

As they said about Labor choosing Simon Crean: in this election, it looks like the turkeys have voted for Christmas.

676 Biff  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:16pm

re: #665 rabidsquirrel

I find consolation in the fact that once Senator Obama assumes the presidency, he'll be confronted with "realpolitik".


I'm pretty sure the term "realpolitik" could be found in dictionaries in Germany in 1932.

677 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:00:01pm

Read Liberal Facism by Jonah goldberg.

678 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:00:36pm

re: #676 Biff

I'm pretty sure the term "realpolitik" could be found in dictionaries in Germany in 1932.

I pretty sure it could be found in many dictionaries in many countries. What's your point?

679 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:03:00pm

Most of my friends are Democrats and I am trying to be as gracious as Charles and offer my congratulations. I was switched to the Republican party because I was so turned off by the ridiculous hyperbole, conspiracy theories, hate, vitriol, defeatism offered up by liberals. For instance, statements after Bush was elected in 2004: we are all doomed, and everything is going to hell and we need to move to another country, etc. Sorry to say, it sounds just as ridiculous coming from Republicans. We are all going to be just fine. I do wonder about the Iraqi people though. I hope Obama doesn't pull out too soon and ruin their chances for a stable Democratic country, not to mention wipe out the sacrifices made by our soldiers.

680 spudly  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:32pm

The US can weather a bad choice for President. It's happened before, it'll happen again. I'm sure there were people as unhappy as we are with the results of the Adams/Jefferson election. Heck, FDR had an administration riddled with Soviet agents, it's hard to be worse than that!

IMO, the definition of democracy is the peaceful exchange of power. That's what we do. The other side wins, and work harder to win next time. Sure, the Democrat party has a huge advantage in the MSM propaganda machine, but new media is becoming more important. Kill talk radio, and it will become more so.

An election is just a battle, more will be fought.

Thanks for keeping it classy, Charles.

681 Biff  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:37pm

re: #678 rabidsquirrel

That realpolitik is relative to the political environment and the strength of your followers and political allies. Realpolitik is not some grand social ethic that can save you from a political tsunami.

682 Sloppy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:37pm

This, too, shall pass. Like a kidney stone.

683 RedVoter  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:46pm

As much as I like Sarah Palin, I think bobby Jindal is the future for conservatives. Palin knows how to connect with people, but we're in for a rough 4 years and Jindal, a technocrat, may be seen as the best hope to fix the mess.

plus he's Indian. He can use the anonymous donor credit card scheme Obama developed and collect foreign donations from India. India has one billion people, all they have to do is donate one dollar each. Boom, billion dollar war chest. Win!

684 Former Belgian  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:54pm

re: #678 rabidsquirrel

re: #678 rabidsquirrel

I pretty sure it could be found in many dictionaries in many countries. What's your point?

It's much older than 1932: Bismarck was a big advocate of it, and it was first used to describe the foreign policy of Metternich:

Realpolitik

685 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:21pm

I switched, not "I was switched: (It was perfectly voluntary!)

686 Mr. E. Train  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:42pm

We survived; Hoover, the New Deal, LBJ
and Jimmy Carter. We will survive The One. We may not like it, we may feel like pulling our hair out,... but we will survive. The nation will survive.

As much as I disagree with ALL of his policies, I will not disrespect the office (and thus myself and what I believe) by treating him with disrespect. I WILL NOT do and become what I loathed the most about the moonbats!

Folks, this is a teaching moment... as much as I hate the term.
The majority of Obama's voters went for him because he was cool, he communicated well, he was elegant, he gave them a thrill up their leg. They voted for him because he would be the first black president and that would be cool.
And they hated Bush... and that other guy was really old.

They didn't vote for him because they loved his policies. Most Obama voters couldn't tell you what his policies are... and they don't care.

In the next 2-4 years they will learn to care. As we watch the rebirth of the misery index, Obama voters will get a real time, real world education in the differences between 'progressive' policies and Conservative ones. In a political and economic sense, they will be mugged by reality. And we all know what happens when a liberal gets mugged. Its just a damned shame I'm going to have to get mugged as well, just so that they can be educated. I was a youg'en during the Carter years. Id had hoped to never see the like again. Oh well... sigh.

We can only hope there is an inspiring, true Conservative we can rally around in 2012. Palin would do well to learn from the Gipper and spend the next two years giving speeches and helping to elect Republicans to the house and Senate in the next off year elections. By 2012 she'll have collected many favors, banked much good will in the party, refined her speaking ability and filled in the gaps in her foreign policy knowledge. Perhaps Jindal will be 'done cooking' by then as well.

So Ill just say congrats Sen. Obama. Well played. Even if I do think some of the pitches were spitballs, the umpire says you won and I play by the rules, the most important of which is good sportsmanship.

I will not whine or threaten to leave the nation or wail how all is lost. I'm not a punk. I'm not a moonbat. My life has been one hell of a long grind and if Id been inclined to give up and blame others for my woes Id probably be dead by now.

But I didn't and I didn't. I believe in honor. That means that I will call you my president, especially since I disagree with you. Its easy to salute the one you love. It takes conviction and patients to be the loyal opposition.

I will continue to explain, teach, and debate those around me. With patients, a smile on my lips and a good attitude in my heart. Folks expect Republicans to be angry and sneary. Being the happy warrior throws them off. Ill point out the wrong things Obama does, Ill work against and vote against him come 2012... of that I'm pretty sure.

But Ill not resort to the petty, ugly, crude and insanely paranoid tactics-thoughts-words of the 'progressive' left. If I didn't I wouldn't be any better than them. Hell! I might just as well close my account here and go set up shop over at the Daily Kos.

I will continue to do the right thing because the alternative is to costly... indeed, unthinkable.

687 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:55pm

re: #679 pleaseandthankyou

There wouldn't be doom and gloom if it was a typical liberal-ish sort of Democrat that was elected. As it stands, this guy is WAY out of the Democratic mainstream (as leffty as that is). Obama wants to "Fundamentally change the U.S." to "Redistribute the wealth" and to create, "A national security force as big as our military."

Thes are all things to be VERY worried about!

688 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:03pm

re: #681 Biff

That realpolitik is relative to the political environment and the strength of your followers and political allies. Realpolitik is not some grand social ethic that can save you from a political tsunami.

Realpolitik - in the context I used it - refers to casting aside ideology in the face of practical considerations. Of course realpolitik is "not some grand social ethic. It's not an ethic at all, which was the point of what I posted. Namely, that despite Obama's ideological inclination to support the Palestinian cause, he'll have to accept the reality that the American people, and large portion of Congress, support the Israeli state, and will not allow the President to attempt to cast Israel to the wolves.

689 Jeff S.  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:19pm

Amazingly, this Marston guy is still holding out hope. I really thought he was on to something there for a few days, with his PUMA math. So much for the PUMAs. So much for depending upon help from the Clinton voters to get McCain into office.

690 ragnwald  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:10:59pm

Well, after these last 8 years, the worst Obama can do is become the second worst US-president in history.

691 SevereTyreDamage  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:58pm

re: #14 Jetpilot1101

We did. America elected a marxist.

Welcome to the USSA!

(sigh. . .)

692 kevin the ox  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:39pm

re: #646 scratch

Yes, scratch, I know how the projections work, too. But they're not as accurate this time, at all. This race is remarkably close, which is something I actually expected. The Anointed Obama, supposed darling of all, he's barely squeaked ahead of Can't Be Bothered to Try McCain, in some of those states that were assumed to be a shoe-in. And some of those may even still go to McCain, looking at the RCP numbers.

This election is not over yet. I'll accept the results when they're all in, but Obama is not president elect just yet.

In the end though, what's very interesting is that some formerly very blue places have gone quite ruddy purple now. That's something that will need analysis.

693 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:22pm

re: #690 ragnwald

Well, after these last 8 years, the worst Obama can do is become the second worst US-president in history.

re: #690 ragnwald

Agreed, Bush was very bad domestically--especially from a conservative perspective but Mr. O may turn out to make folks pine for what will then seem the "golden days" of Bush.

694 caligula  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:33pm

men (and women) willing to stand up for whats right regardless of how they feel, or if its popular, are TRULY in the minority in america

women... if you're looking for a good man... you won't find many, the wussy liberal female man has spoken

695 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:24pm

re: #686 Mr. E. Train

I salute you Mr.. E.Train! Althought I am deeply concerned for the future under thei (gulp!) Obama administration, your tone is the right one. My hat is off to you.

696 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:36pm
697 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:59pm

Well, I fear Americans have set themselves up for a world of hurt. I can only hope it doesn't come to pass. The Obama personality cult reminds me of the Trudeau personality cult in Canada 40 years ago, and that worthless turd did a lot of damage, much of which remains unrepaired.

If Obama trashes the U.S. economy, that will have repercussions on this side of the 49th, since our nations' economies are so inextricably linked. Obama has spoken of withdrawing from NAFTA, and "repatriating jobs." If he does that, Canada can say goodbye to a great many cushy union jobs in the auto industry. Hey! Maybe there is a silver lining. That would certainly hit the Canadian leftists in the pocketbook.

If the American civil structure really begins to fall apart, conservative-minded Americans should think hard about moving to Canada, settling in specific areas, and taking out citizenship. Settle in those areas where a few extra votes could take a riding (district) away from the Liberals (moonbats lite) or the NDP (moonbats deluxe), and give it to the Conservative party. That could really help entrench the good guys in power, and possibly change it from a minority government to a majority. And it wouldn't take millions of such migrants to make a difference, either.

Ironic, that we are slowly pulling ourselves out of the socialist quagmire, just as you folks are diving into it.

Whatever you do, don't let Obama implement his agenda unopposed. Hold his feet to the fire every step of the way!

698 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:04pm

re: #694 caligula

men (and women) willing to stand up for whats right regardless of how they feel, or if its popular, are TRULY in the minority in america

women... if you're looking for a good man... you won't find many, the wussy liberal female man has spoken

Maybe Charles could start up an on-line Lizard dating service?

699 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:01pm

re: #698 rabidsquirrel

Yeah--e-LizardHarmony

700 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:33pm
701 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:30:05pm

re: #700 Iron Fist

It just occured to me that if Obama croaks, Joe Biden will be President. As bad as Obama will be, let's hope we're spared the sling and arrows of a President Biden.

If that should happen, I'm moving all my 401-k funds to Saturday Night Live!

702 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:30:13pm

re: #687 manalive

I hear you but I guess my concern is tempered by the fact that he will be checked by the realities of the office and the bridges he will have to maintain across partisan lines. Yes, he will make many decisions that will be unpopular to Republican ideals, but that is a far cry from the hyperbole of "we are going to be a marxist country and we will lose our freedom of speech etc, etc. Those are exactly the kinds of ridiculous things that liberals say.

703 lennysquiggy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:34pm

#668:

Um, no. You're wrong. Barry represents a segment of the world population that has been actively waging a war against this country for decades, using our own institutions against us. Tonight, they won a major victory.

The left has spent 8 years demonizing George Bush to create the illusion that he is the antithesis to everything America stands for. It was no accident. They have painted patriotic Americans into a corner - if we call out Barry for what he is, we are going to be accused of using the same tactics of Michael Moore, Code Pink and George Soros. I'm calling bullshit.

I don't think we should march in the streets act like moonbats, but I'm not going to act like we just elected a Democrat. This guy is no Clinton, Kerry, Gore, Richardson, Lieberman or Edwards - like 'em or hate 'em, they all have America's best interests at heart.

Barry, on the other hand, represents a violent, hateful anti-American contigent that should not be accepted or tolerated. I'd love to be proven wrong and maybe I will. But until then, I'm sitting on the sidelines, waiting for the worst.

704 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:23pm

re: #696 Iron Fist

We've lost an important battle in the Cold Civil War that we have been fighting. I don't know about you, but I'd like to puke.

This is the war Bill Ayres declared in 1972. Could this be the final battle?

705 NCusTranshumanist  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:46pm

I, for one, do not welcome our new Marxist overlord.

706 NCusTranshumanist  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:44pm

re: #702 pleaseandthankyou

I hear you but I guess my concern is tempered by the fact that he will be checked by the realities of the office and the bridges he will have to maintain across partisan lines.

Have you seen the congressionals? They own the whole show. Hussein can do whatever he wants.

707 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:34:51pm

Too bad socialists don't "grow in office" as republicans tend to do!

708 AReadyRepub  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:22pm

#280 Desert Dog: He won fair and square? He is the biggest slimmiest scumbag cheat that ever set foot on Pennsylvania Avenue and he dirties the images of all our great presidents. Fair and square my fanny. AND HE IS NOT MY PRESIDENT NOR WILL HE EVER BE! I will laugh wildly when he screws up and forever view him as the bottom of the garbage feeder pile! I kid you not.

709 I heart the USA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:22pm

For me, congratulating Obama would be like congratulating a bank robber because he pulled off a heist without getting caught.

He didn't even have enough respect for this country to win it honestly.

710 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:36:26pm

re: #686 Mr. E. Train

Kudos to you, Mr. E. Train! Best post today, easily!

711 AReadyRepub  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:40pm

#478 Ward Cleaver: How about scratching your nose Hussein with your middle finger extended again, this would be nice for John.

712 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:51pm
713 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:55pm

re: #709 I heart the USA

For me, congratulating Obama would be like congratulating a bank robber because he pulled off a heist without getting caught.

He didn't even have enough respect for this country to win it honestly.

C'mon now. OK--he engaged in the usual Democrat/ACORN-style cheating. But you've got to accept that the public school system has been cranking out brainwashed "voters" for decades now. Tonight they reached critical mass. The scary thing is how hugely popular BHO really was. He doesn't scare me half as much as his worshipful followers!

714 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:44pm

re: #713 manalive

The scary thing is how hugely popular BHO really was. He doesn't scare me half as much as his worshipful followers!

Indeed!

715 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:26pm
716 Student of Objectivism  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:43pm

"Country first."

"Du bist nichts, dein Volk is alles"

I am on a tentative strike. Later Charles.

717 Wendya  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:45:02pm

So, when will I get my free house, brand new free hybrid car with free fuel for life and free healthcare?

718 Bigduke 6  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:45:05pm

re: #688 rabidsquirrel
The damage is in the anti-Israel, anti-semetic message BHO will send AS the POTUS. The Congress can send any message they wish.

719 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:45:16pm

PS I'm trying to imagine a positive outcome of this might be that the lefty radicals get pulled more to the center (common sense, real-world realities), rather than the presidency and the country being pulled more toward the radicals. Obama will simply be UNABLE to please the radicals, just as Nancy Pelosi eventually pissed of Cindy Sheehan. Example: I can't wait for the moment the Obama will be compelled to launch an airstrike, and all the peace activists will be standing around going WHAAA? They might have to start thinking about the intricacies of foreign policy. Another positive outcome: Young black kids have NO excuses anymore to slack off. As of tonight they are no longer being held down by the man.

720 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:16pm

re: #715 Iron Fist

Oh, and if I had my choice, I'd like this as my main weapon. Put a little authority in my corner. Can anybody spare five grand?

Seems you and Bill Ayres may be soulmates--of a sort. Perhaps give The Ball and the Cross a read. Please.

721 NCusTranshumanist  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:48pm

Definitely looking into the JET program.

722 AReadyRepub  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:59pm

re: #649 Joan Not of Arc

Amen Joan Not of Arc. He has no core at all.

723 ShanghaiRay  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:55pm

re: #712 Iron Fist

No. We haven't even begun to fight. We're just lining up the pieces, equiping them and wait for the Enemy to attack. Right now, too, all of our skirmishes have happened in the Legal world. I'm very much afraid that before this tradegey plays out, we will see hot war in this nation.

There are worse things than war, though. Waiting in lines to go into William Aerys' gas chamber, for example, is a point where our disagreement is such that open war is justified.

Pure, rhetoric..not gonna happen. How do I know? Because the same people who espoused Obama and a Demon incarnate are now congratulating him. All of us good conservatives will just roll over, bitch and complain on the net thread about how mean Barry is and do the absolutely nothing we have been doing for 40 years. Face it, the liberals bettered us..they beat us to a pulp and we just stand around in a daze wondering wtf happened...while they are laughing at us.

724 No Dhummi  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:51:56pm

I think that the replies have made it quite clear that "we" do not all extend our sincere congratulations, as the main post claims.

I also don't see how it's putting one's country first by congratulating Obama. I have a problem with the implicit notion: if congratulating Obama is putting one's country first, then those who don't congratulate Obama are not putting their country first.

If you want to congratulate him, it's your prerogative - by all means, feel free. But if you don't wish to, that doesn't mean you're not respecting America's institutions and doesn't make you unpatriotic.

725 manalive  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:53:19pm

re: #719 pleaseandthankyou

You're on target. I wonder what my neighbor with the "War is not the answer" sign in her yard will think when BHO drops bombs in Afghanistan or Pakistan--especially if--no, when--there is collateral damage.

726 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:53:25pm

re: #706 NCusTranshumanist

Yes, I'm aware of that. I guess I just believe that there are other forces of power at work that will provide a modicum of moderation. I'm talking about the whole web of special interests, and deals and brokering, military establishment, power brokers in the private sector, historical precedent, all of which make radical shifts more difficult to achieve. I'm talking about issues of momentum and inertia, but I could be naive.

727 lennysquiggy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:56:41pm

Tomorrow's Headline Should Read: WE ARE ALL EUROPEANS

728 I heart the USA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:14pm

re: #713 manalive

C'mon now. OK--he engaged in the usual Democrat/ACORN-style cheating. But you've got to accept that the public school system has been cranking out brainwashed "voters" for decades now. Tonight they reached critical mass. The scary thing is how hugely popular BHO really was. He doesn't scare me half as much as his worshipful followers!

729 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:01:06pm

re: #718 Bigduke 6

The damage is in the anti-Israel, anti-semetic message BHO will send AS the POTUS. The Congress can send any message they wish.

He can send any message he likes. As long as he cannot act on it.

730 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:04:21pm

re: #725 manalive

Exactly. Or when a hurricane or earthquake hits and Obama isn't personally there to save them from the floods and fires. This could be a BIG learning experience for a lot of radicals when their man is as subject to the same forces and limitations as the man the hated so perfectly.

731 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:12pm

correction: "they hated"

732 blueroom127  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:05:28pm

I can't sleep, hearing the mob cheering outside my window here in Minneapolis. For a godamm politician! Chanting Slogans for goodness sakes. Welcome the cult of the new religion with the pantheon of Hope, Change, Taxes, Healthcare, Welfare, Appeasement, Shame and cursing the devils Freedom of Thought and Pride!

Please mob, go away so I can sleep. Some of us have to work in the morning to pay the taxes that will fund your new utopia that I won't qualify for.

733 I heart the USA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:37pm

re: #713 manalive

C'mon now. OK--he engaged in the usual Democrat/ACORN-style cheating. But you've got to accept that the public school system has been cranking out brainwashed "voters" for decades now. Tonight they reached critical mass. The scary thing is how hugely popular BHO really was. He doesn't scare me half as much as his worshipful followers!

I'll try this again - don't know why my response didn't post. :/

I do not agree that this was "the usual Democrat/ACORN-style cheating." When was the last time a Dem presidential campaign handed $800K to ACORN for a single election? And how did the Dear Leader's campaign have that kind of cash to toss their way? Oh, yeah, the tens - if not hundreds - of millions in illegal contributions. But that still wouldn't have been enough if the MSM hadn't chosen to play the cowcatcher on the Changey-Hopey Express, clearing the tracks of any thing (like the truth) that might derail his ascension. Indoctrinated kids alone don't comprise enough of the voting block to do this.

I absolutely agree with you about his glassy-eyed followers. I have never understood what kind of mind surrenders its will to a cult. And we're supposed to accept that Dear Leader's followers are the most educated and intellectual of us!

734 cantrecant  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:11:37pm

Where are we going and why am I in this hand basket?

735 stuiec  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:13:02pm

re: #240 twincitiesgirl

I kind of like the nic the Big O, it has a certain panache to it. Seriously though, I am very happy that a black man was finally elected POTUS. It saddens me more than words can express that he had to be that man. That's why I will be praying for him daily--especially for wisdom. I am dead serious about this.

Yes, everyone says that it's an historic advancement for America to put its Jim Crow past behind it and elect an African-American President.

Except the sad historical fact is that African visitors to the South often were given access to White-only facilities because they were not descendants of slaves. And today a child of an African and a Kansan (by way of Hawaii) is becoming President, and he is being confused solely on the basis of skin color with the descendants of slaves. Obama has about as much claim on the legacy of the Greensboro lunch counter as Eminem does: both of them appropriated the genuine struggles of Black Americans to create their own brands, their own schtick.

736 stuiec  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:14:40pm

re: #725 manalive

You're on target. I wonder what my neighbor with the "War is not the answer" sign in her yard will think when BHO drops bombs in Afghanistan or Pakistan--especially if--no, when--there is collateral damage.

Except... what if he DOESN'T drop bombs on Afghanistan or Pakistan? What if that was all posturing?

737 descolada9  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:00pm

He can have my sympathies on the loss of his grandmother, but as for his winning this election I cannot say a single, friggin' kind word.

Time to start looking for Galt Gulch

738 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:14pm

re: #736 stuiec

Except... what if he DOESN'T drop bombs on Afghanistan or Pakistan? What if that was all posturing?

Unfortunately, I fear the only "bombs" Obama will drop will be on the heads of the American people.

739 lennysquiggy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:16:21pm

The sports industry is the first to react negatively to tonight's debacle:

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

740 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:21:16pm

re: #736 stuiec

Except... what if he DOESN'T drop bombs on Afghanistan or Pakistan? What if that was all posturing?

At some point Obama will have to show a little muscle. As Biden said, he will be tested. If he flinches, he will be excoriated by the majority of Americans. If he shows some military ca-hones, he will be excoriated by the peace radicals. I think it will be the latter, and I will take great pleasure in it.

741 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:29pm

re: #738 rabidsquirrel

Unfortunately, I fear the only "bombs" Obama will drop will be on the heads of the American people.

Literally, I mean do you think Obama will bomb America? With what sort of bomb? A cruise missile ?A nuke? Please elaborate.

742 I heart the USA  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:28:50pm

re: #740 pleaseandthankyou

At some point Obama will have to show a little muscle. As Biden said, he will be tested. If he flinches, he will be excoriated by the majority of Americans. If he shows some military ca-hones, he will be excoriated by the peace radicals. I think it will be the latter, and I will take great pleasure in it.

He'll try to split the baby and fail. He's used to having everything both ways. What a fucking wake-up call that asshat is going to get when he can't get out of the hard shit with a 'present' vote. I pray it doesn't cost American lives.

743 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:31:16pm

re: #741 pleaseandthankyou

Literally, I mean do you think Obama will bomb America? With what sort of bomb? A cruise missile ?A nuke? Please elaborate.

The "bombs" will be metaphorical. As in an unpleasant surprise.

Thought I guess most of what he's planning won't come as a surprise to the Lizard nation.

744 rboa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:05pm

So when does affirmative action get repealed? Come to think of it, I have been told several times "don't bother applying, you are the wrong color". When do I get my chance to be put at the head of the line?

745 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:30pm

True. Going halfway with a military matter tends to get a lot of people killed. We should never need a "surge". A surge suggests previous restraint. The whole war should be a surge, start to finish. (Quicker finish).

746 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:36:23pm

re: #744 rboa

So when does affirmative action get repealed? Come to think of it, I have been told several times "don't bother applying, you are the wrong color". When do I get my chance to be put at the head of the line?

You can go to the head of the tax line. Remember, it's patriotic to pay more taxes.

And don't worry about your skin color. It's your party affiliation color that matters now. And - if you're anything like me - you're still the wrong color in Obama's eyes.

747 rboa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:17pm

re: #49 WinstonChurchill

And the Republic ends...not with a bang, but with a whimper. The shining city on the hill is no more.

The bang is coming. You can find all the gun bangs you want from the local Civilian National Security Force. Unfortunately, they will be directed toward you and your neighbors.

748 badger1970  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:37:37pm

There's nothing to congratulate. America just effed itself by electing and person devoid of any morals and his loyalty given to enemies of the state.

It's going to be a long eight years with an arab-American president and a 58 dhimmocrat majority in the senate.

749 lennysquiggy  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:38:40pm

Hey maybe we should all enlist for the new Civilian Defense Force or whatever it will be called... you know, infiltrate it and destroy it from the inside just like the SDS just did to America.

750 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:04pm

re: #748 badger1970

There's nothing to congratulate. America just effed itself by electing and person devoid of any morals and his loyalty given to enemies of the state.

It's going to be a long eight years with an arab-American president and a 58 dhimmocrat majority in the senate.

I thought BO was a Christian?

751 rboa  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:06pm

re: #746 rabidsquirrel

You can go to the head of the tax line. Remember, it's patriotic to pay more taxes.

And don't worry about your skin color. It's your party affiliation color that matters now. And - if you're anything like me - you're still the wrong color in Obama's eyes.

True. I always have a spot saved for me at the front of any bill paying line ;)

752 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:05pm

Strike that last comment, I thought I read "Muslim". My bad.

753 cromwell  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:40:38pm

Commiserations my American friends. I was hoping more of you would see through the blatant media manipulation that was occurring, but alas, it was not to be.

Welcome to the club of having nations electing celebrity politicians who are entirely style over no substance - still not sure how we elected Rudd here in Australia. Lets hope too much damage isn't done before we can turf them out.

754 traderjoe9  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:41:05pm

This is truly a turning point in history. Throngs of people crowd downtown Chicago, and celebrate the election of Barack Obama, the first African-American president in the history of this wonderful country. They are joyous, they are exuberant...

Little did they know they just sentenced the United States into an eventual decline that will permit our enemies to attack us on our own soil. It is my sincere hope that we can stop them before that happens. Otherwise, a new era began today, and a dark period will develop over the following years.

755 pleaseandthankyou  Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:57pm

re: #754 traderjoe9

... a new era began today, and a dark period will develop over the following years.

Give me a break. Dark period. You sound like a liberal. Have a little optimism. Conservatism means, for me means taking responsibility for one's own life, not blaming ills and perils on the supreme leader. The birds will chirp tomorrow just like yesterday, and al qaeda will hate us just the same.

756 LittleGreenFavre  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:01:06am

re: #754 traderjoe9

Little did they know they just sentenced the United States into an eventual decline that will permit our enemies to attack us on our own soil. It is my sincere hope that we can stop them before that happens. Otherwise, a new era began today, and a dark period will develop over the following years.

Classic! It applies to President (elect) Barack H. Obama, and we will all be there to see it happening.

757 Christopher Luebcke  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:03:30am

Here's where I'll politely disagree: Every single prediction of the end of the world shares one thing in common, and that's that they were wrong. The same can accurately be said of every prediction of a fundamental national schism due to a presidential election, with the possible exception of 1860 (possible and not given because the schism in that case was likely unavoidable, regardless of the outcome).

I can't think of a single election, since I really started paying attention, when there wasn't a significant undercurrent within the outer wings of both parties that believed, fervently, that electing the other side's guy would unleash a series of sinister plots and imbecilic catastrophes, ending in some combination of martial law, a U.N. takeover, the imposition of Christian theocracy, a new race war, or all of the above. For everyone who has predicted such thus far: FAIL.

There are legitimate criticisms and concerns, and causes for deep and potentially well-founded suspicions. But if history has consistently taught us anything, it is that our cumbersome, ponderous, awkward political system makes it truly difficult for any one person to truly run the place into the ground.

Even if Obama is as bad as some of you fear, we didn't elect him dictator.

Also, I would encourage you to use his middle name just as often, but not more so, than you would be using McCain's. Need to look McCain's though you've known Obama's for years? Me too.

758 LotharBot  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:06:29am

I don't like Obama. Not at all. I don't think he'll be good for this country.

But (once he's inaugurated) he's my president. I hope you'll all join me in being more mature for the next 4 years than so many people from the "other side" were for the last 8.

759 ashan  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:16:27am

America just chose the winner - Marxist Idol. Soon CDs of the Dear Leader's speeches and words to the faithful will be distributed to every household and taught in the schools. Imagine - we will soon have our own little red book of "Quotations of President Chairman Obama" that we will be required to carry with us at all times.

I'm being sarcastic, but I believe that America has deliberately chosen to become a 3rd World country. It will now become very difficult to get an education free of propaganda. I shake my head with disbelief at how amazingly ignorant my countrymen and women are. The O shouldn't have been the candidate from the onset. While other countries, especially in Eastern Europe, have finally thrown off the shackles of Communism, America has now rushed headlong to embrace it. The damage to the Constitution and the rights of the individual will be irreparable.

You get what you vote for. Oh, and welcome to the gulag.

760 Christopher Luebcke  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:19:20am

Oh, I forgot to mention: Prison camps. Everybody's going to be thrown into prison camps. Every four years.

761 davinvalkri  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:21:37am

Oh boy. Everyone around me is cheering to the rafters for Obama's victory. Me, I'm not so certain. Who knows, maybe he'll have good instincts and not plunge the U.S. and the world into despair...

...and maybe I'll sprout wings and sigils on my back and fly into space...

Still, Charles has it right. Congrats, Obama.

762 MeanTeacher  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:28:33am

If "country first" is to mean anything at all, then it must mean elevating the good of the country over any of Obama's plans, policies, or pundits. They are Americans only by accident of geography; by ideology they are now and always will be enemies of freedom in any meaningful sense. Treating them with kid gloves and giving multiple benefits of the doubt is what got us into this mess, and only recognizing the enemy within will get us out of it. It's time to stop being nice.

763 The Ronin Edge  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:47:50am

Looking to buy some tungsten steel core .270 ammo if anyones selling :( I am terrified I may be needing it soon. Oh Mr. Hesten where are you now that we need you.

764 rboa  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:49:38am

re: #757 Christopher Luebcke

Here's where I'll politely disagree: Every single prediction of the end of the world shares one thing in common, and that's that they were wrong. The same can accurately be said of every prediction of a fundamental national schism due to a presidential election, with the possible exception of 1860 (possible and not given because the schism in that case was likely unavoidable, regardless of the outcome).

I can't think of a single election, since I really started paying attention, when there wasn't a significant undercurrent within the outer wings of both parties that believed, fervently, that electing the other side's guy would unleash a series of sinister plots and imbecilic catastrophes, ending in some combination of martial law, a U.N. takeover, the imposition of Christian theocracy, a new race war, or all of the above. For everyone who has predicted such thus far: FAIL.

There are legitimate criticisms and concerns, and causes for deep and potentially well-founded suspicions. But if history has consistently taught us anything, it is that our cumbersome, ponderous, awkward political system makes it truly difficult for any one person to truly run the place into the ground.

Even if Obama is as bad as some of you fear, we didn't elect him dictator.

Also, I would encourage you to use his middle name just as often, but not more so, than you would be using McCain's. Need to look McCain's though you've known Obama's for years? Me too.

You could not be more wrong. I have followed elections since the Nixon re-election and never before has the fear been so mainstream... and with good reason. Nobody was afraid when Clinton was elected that the country would be devastated. Yes we were sad, but we knew we could replace him eventually.
With all the voting fraud that happened this time (e.g. even those caught were not punished), do you think we will have a 'fair' election in 4 years with the Civilian Nation Security Force in action? Yes, you will get to vote again but it will be like voting in the old Soviet Union.
This is not a matter of just what Obama can do. The Senate and House are going to do their damage. How many more great society programs can the economy bear? The other (more troubling thing) is now we have formally embraced the notion of taking from one person and giving to another is A-OK.

It would be super if Obama becomes a great president and everything is wonderful. However, I know that is fantasy and I should prepare and position myself for the coming times.

765 Timbo17  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:52:31am

Screw getting depressed, it's time to get even for all the crap Kos, DU and the rest of the far left gave Bush.

On January 20 we need to begin crucifying Barak Obama on a daily basis.

Treat him like they treated Bush, blame him for anything bad that happens in this country. Democrats run this country, they no longer have the luxury of blaming Republicans when something bad happens. The country will not tolerate it for four years.

It is time for revenge, not pointless whining.

766 Proud to be an Infidel  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:42:10am

Al Franken may win a Senate seat in Minnesota. Anytime a jerk like that gets in public office, that's bad for the country. I find that much worse than Obama as President even though it's only a Senate seat in Minnesota. What is wrong with those folks in Minnesota?

767 Emery Calame  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:42:10am

I have three (broad, highly paranoid, and bitchy) thoughts:

1. Will the press be able to keep everybody quiet and confused long enough for a fortress of noble sounding, "necessary for healing and unity" obscenely broad, humiliatingly punitive, anti-hate speech codes, fairness doctrines, one sided campaign finance fences, and internet security initiatives to wall us all in or will the press fall apart having already spun too much, too fast, for too long to resemble an impartial source of information ? Will the supremes do anything beside argue and smirk while it happens? The supposedly centrist Clintons were awfully quick to bully free speech down where they could, abusing FBI records, blaming a government building bombing on hate radio, and demonizing anyone who opposed them as backwards in the best case, stupid and ignorant in the middle, and willfully satanic in the worst. Will there be international trials and nonstop moneky court in the congressional chambers? Will this make the voters publically regret their unwise choices or will they essentially learn to masturbate to all the raw meat, bread, and circus and turn the whole mess into a never ending reality show, the watching of which marks you as enlightened and poltically aware? Will the patriot act suddenly cease to be a proto-fascist abomination and need to be strengthened ?

768 Emery Calame  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:42:36am

2. Will people decide that Obama's ideas suck when we start tossing single cruise missles at last year's terrorist camp-site to show our ire and walk into hourly sucker punches at the UN? Will Obama gleefullty "world-treaty" US sovereignty into shackles it might never escape from? Will we get to hear that any terrorist attacks are our own fault for not electing a braniac, great souled, super-genius, born to the purple, mega-leader Gore or Kerry? Will we be adopting dumb, self destructive, inconsistent policies because the correct policy might "send the wrong message" to the peoples of the world? Will we be hearing all this moderate/undecided/independent voter crap or will that conveniently disappear (like the homeless seem to do around the democratic re-election cycle) ?

3. How "thuggish" a hand are we talking about here to bring about "change" ? "Scary phone calls, pro bono law-suits, tax audits, and weird stuff suddenly turning up on your credit report" thuggish?
"Lose your job and be considered a dangerous nut who needs to go to class to learn to dutifully kiss truth to powerful elitist ass" thuggish?
"Unfortunately torn apart by a justifiably angry crowd of protesters (no endictment expected) and most of the fires are expected to be out by Saturday" thuggish? "Nobody knows what happened to them and it's best not to talk about it" thuggish? " No (affordable) electricity/ gas/land for you" thuggish? "John Doe was tragically found shot dead, execution style, possibly by members of his own militia that we just now, suddenly discovered he belonged to for the past several months " thuggish? "Medical reassignment to therapeutic reeducation villages "? Are we dealing with a "Carter II" or a "Little Mao" or just "Lonesome Rhodes/Son of Daley" thuggery ?

I know that MOST of this noise I'm spewing is pretty far out, but I'm morbidly curious about just how far a real nut could get towards building the modern, 21st century, thinking man's eu-dystopian pragmatist experiment gone amuck with lots of tacit support from the usual rank and file nearly celebrity tv-faces and almost no one speaking out about extreme weirdness that comes from their own home team. If we go broke as a nation will we even be told?
I mean we ARE supposedly looking at a GEN-U-INE, shiney, no-fault, philosopher king who's at least half way to being (the "real", community organizer style) neo-Jesus and whose mistakes are bound to be better than George "Satan McRetard" Bush's...ANYTHING. I doubt we blind, dim, empty headed, wee folk can be trusted with seeing how the wonderful, long promised Marxian paradise sausage is actually made. How many ways can the press find to say "watch the birdie!" and have it work?

769 Proud to be an Infidel  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:47:57am

re: #765 Timbo17

Screw getting depressed, it's time to get even for all the crap Kos, DU and the rest of the far left gave Bush.

On January 20 we need to begin crucifying Barak Obama on a daily basis.

Treat him like they treated Bush, blame him for anything bad that happens in this country. Democrats run this country, they no longer have the luxury of blaming Republicans when something bad happens. The country will not tolerate it for four years.

It is time for revenge, not pointless whining.

There has never been so much enthusiasm in the media and the American public like there has been for Obama. Because of this, expectations will be high; therefore, Obama could turn out to be a huge disappointment. The American people will give him a long honeymoon but when it's over and if he hadn't delivered, it will be much worse for him than it was for Bush. ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) will run rampant!

770 Christopher Luebcke  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:51:25am

re: #764 rboa

Actually I could be a lot more wrong. You think back on the Clinton years and don't remember the accusations of rape? Murder? The surrender of sovereignty to the U.N.? Black helicopters dotting the skies? The New World Order was about to take over.

Of course, the New World Order had been incubated by H.W. Bush, who was about to enact martial law at any moment as a pretext to locking up thousands in re-education camps, especially during the buildup to Gulf War I when, once again, the brave voices of protest risked everythingnothing to expose his secret plans. I, as a college freshman in 1990, actually fleetingly fell for that one.

I think Bill Kristol had it right on The Daily Show a few nights ago: President Obama will be an imperfect, center-left leader. He'll be bolstered by a fully Democratic Congress, of course, but he's still not going to be dictator. In fact I imagine that the majority of early-onset indignation will come from the left, when he fails to push for treason charges against Chimpy McHitlerBurton, doesn't withdraw all the troops from Iraq on day 2, redeploys most of those he does to Afghanistan instead of bringing them home, has his cabinet secretary choices held up in confirmation hearings, and is generally unable to turn the ship on a dime smaller than the size of Rhode Island.

771 Zim  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:58:32am

Getting up early to beat the rush for ammo.

772 Emery Calame  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:24:21am

I don't much believe in black helicopter NWO type stuff but I do believe in socialist idiots and the sick depths they will go to shove their flawed dream down the throat of anyone they are not explicity afraid of.

They tend to group up, decide that their opponents aren't really human, and then a sort of "one upmanship" begins to see who is most dedicated to "the cause and ideals of the movement" and the currency of this competition is generally smashing the crap out of any real or imagined dissent by whatever means they have calculated will not cost them everything.

Like I said, I'm wondering how far they can (and will) go and what they can actually get away with just by repeatedly telling us it's all normal, reasonable, mainstream center-left stuff and nothing to worry about. Why, worrying about it means you're probably a Kook, or a seething idiot, sexist, racist, (the real terrorism!) bastard who caused every problem in the world by daring to disagree with some bit of tripe some popular dick head rockstar once puked up in Rolling Stone around the election. Pretty soon it's implied that you ought to be shut up by responsible people because you might confuse the people with your "programmed-evil-satan-death-muder-ignorant-hate-lie-consumer-think ". Confusion damages unity and without unity how can we save the planet from THOSE TERRIBLE ASSHOLES and Dick Cheney? Soon after that free speech is weakened because the societal externalities are just too costly. The people need to heal and learn to live a better way*.

(* possibly riding government owned bikes from their teeny studio-apartments/dorms to the work zone and back, waiting six months for a new pair of shoes to arrive, while the brave leaders smile at them through the public address monitors from their eighty-nine room mansion in what used to be protected prisitine federal parkland, glad that the old days of slavery, overpopulation, and poverty are finally over and people are free at last.)

773 The Ronin Edge  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:48:48am
"Are you and the other lizards going to be gracious when the un-Fairness Doctrine is reenacted and the Federal Government
starts to "crack down" on "hate speech" on the internet on "hateful" right-wing blogs such as LGF?"

Tossing congeniality to these backstabber's is Pearls before swine Charles. They will thank you for your hospitality as they stick a dagger in your back.

"Oh, I forgot to mention: Prison camps. Everybody's going to be thrown into prison camps. Every four years."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yeah! It could never happen here! Not in the USA! No sir-ee bob! Er... uh... w..wait... never mind...

Likely? Dunno. I can't say yet. This guy is a mystery. But you can't say it "won't happen" because it HAS happened. I am going to pray for "unlikely" to happen.

But after I read the book that was linked on this site... yeah... I beg your pardon, but no "grats" threads on dinging "president" will be coming from me.

774 Marlin925  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:27:30am

Again, I'd give my eyeteeth to be a fly on the wall when Dopey-Changey get his heart torn out by someone like Vlad Putin.

775 ihateronpaul  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:34:55am

re: #772 Emery Calame

the neocons do this as well, they demoralize the other side. both parties are equally guilty.

776 falcon1  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:51:08am

re: #292 ErislDysnomia

Gotta admire McCain. That's all I can say about him. While I do wish he'd acted as the fighter pilot more, the man has already earned his keep for this country. Long ago.

I admire him for what he did in the past but this election was nothing but a repeat of Clinton-Dole. When will Republicans learn? Although everything else fell into place for Nobama, still we could have chosen someone like Romney.

777 curt9988  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:53:01am

It's gonna be a different country. Change is coming.

778 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:33:52am
779 vancomycin  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:38:10am

I'm sorry. I'm giving this loser exactly as much support and backing as the libtards gave Bush.

780 Joel  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:00:27am

I sense the dark shadows of the coming times.

781 JeepThang  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:01:13am

America's splendor and power will end as a result of this.. mark my words.

782 TexasPatriot  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:07:40am

For more than 200 years, Americans have fought, sacrificed, and died for our freedom. Now we have thrown it away by electing a communist.

783 bald headed geek  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:09:23am

re: #30 nigella

When I first read this comment, I thought, "Well, of course he's MY President", but then I thought about how many angry lefties who have screamed for the past eight years that Bush 43 was not THEIR President, and how they didn't consider him to be the legitimate President, and I backed off from my initial thought.

Honestly, I hope that he does well. I hope that he comes close to the expectations that people have of him, because I live here, and what he does affects me and my family. If he doesn't do well, we will all suffer the consequences.

One side note: I am watching MSNBC's morning show (because Disneyworld doesn't carry Fox News, believe it or not), and watching their coverage of this is almost enough to make a person want to slit their wrists. If anything, it is even more fawnign and sycophantic than it was before. When did Joe Scarborough become an Obamaniac?

BHG

784 monkey61  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:15:38am

The thing I want to say to the celebrants that I saw on the way to work this morning is, "You've made your bed, now sleep in it." You think uemployment is high now? Just wait until some of Obama's plans are enacted. You think you will prosper now? Just wait until the tax hikes go into effect. You think George Bush created more terrorists? Well, let's see how terrorism thrives when the U.S. Armed Forces (God bless them) are pulled out of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. and all we have to face our enemies are flower-carrying Obamatons in suits.

I pray that Obama does lead us into prosperity, but every indication is that we are not heading into a glorious new era, but back to an amalgam of Russia, 1918 and 1930's America.

But hey, we have our second black president, so it's OK, right?

785 snowbunnybutt  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:18:24am

I pray for the United States of America, God bless America! They fought bought a good one.

786 CofactorMatrix  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:34:08am

Yep. Congratulations, America. Hope you like that $12/gal gas. Don't worry about your electricity bill. Electric power may cost $4/KwH, but the bright side is that it won't be on very much, so you won't run up a bill.

By the way, South Africa got change, too, a few years back. Look past the MSM and find out how that's working for them.

787 GoIllini  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 10:37:05am

re: #59 spudly

WOLVERINES!

My wife and a couple of friends started calling that out to each other a couple of weeks ago. Where's Patrick Swayze when you need him?

788 XMarine  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 10:48:06am

CHANGE!

Yeah, we will get "change" all right. Higher taxes causing a slumping economy, and it will be, "All Bush's fault!" A nuclear tipped Iran threatening Israel, and the World ignoring the terrorism inflicted on that nation. Democracy and freedom receding globally, and our "leaders" saying that it is inevitable progress.

Yes, and "change" is the only thing left in our pockets after our hard earned resources are distributed amongst parasites who think the "government" owes them a living.

789 Cutty Sark  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 10:51:00am

Yea , I guess Apartheid was better HUH ?

So you deal with "the down side of a Democracy " ...the PEOPLE get to choose , and with 350 odd electoral votes and 51 % popular vote ...the people have made their choice , and no it aint the end of the world , deal with it .
And if gas gets to $12 a gal. it wont be Obamas fault , it will be all our faults . Bush had 8 years to do something about it , his Dad 4 years , Ronald Reagan 8 years , Carter and Clinton 12 years , and guess what ? American dependence on foreign oil has risen fron 27% to 73 % since 1974 ...so WHO you gonna blame ?

790 tum  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 11:15:09am

As a pro-American Vietnamese New Zealander living in London who has always support American action including the WOT, I'm happy with an Obama victory?

Why? Right or wrong; America has lost its political capital. Like it or not America needs world political capital to win the W.O.T and to spread liberty.

Financially and politically; America has over spent.

I, quite frankly, have gotten sick of having to defend the United States over and over again for the last 8 years. I will still do it but I don't like being the only one within 10KM who still recognises America and its ideals for what they really are.

Lack of political capital lost the Vietnam war. Let's not have that happen again; ok?

Obama is not a socialist or an anti-American. He is to the left of the ailse party but he's not Jimmy Carter (time will tell I guess).

791 descolada9  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 11:24:16am

re: #775 ihateronpaul

the neocons do this as well, they demoralize the other side. both parties are equally guilty.

You have got to be kidding me if you think there is any equality in demoralization between LLL's and neocons. That is just stupid.

792 Malleus Dei  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 11:39:25am

"Country first."

No, Charles. Constitution first. Everything else second.

793 Nemesis6  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:07:23pm

Well, Obama's success depends on him being able to handle: The war in Iraq, and a bad financial situation. You guys need to give him some leeway, because a lot of the shit he's gonna have to deal with was left on his doorstep by the republicans. So McCain would most likely have been in the same waters as Obama if he'd won. They say it can only get better with either candidate, but I think that, through all of this drivel and bullcrap about "change" and "hope" that the Obamajugend want to sing about, just trying it is the way forward for America. You've been stuck with Bush for 8 years, and I think the world is anxious to see what you're gonna be like now.

I mean think about it: He has a lot of things you don't agree with, but the people that you do agree with haven't really handled the economy well. Bill Maher compared it with the wolf chasing roadrunner, still running after he's run over the cliff, not really realizing that he's gonna fall. For the time, I think Israel is safe. Iran most likely doesn't have nuclear weapons yet, and I don't think they're stupid enough, albeit zealously insane. If they could, they would have done it when Bush was president. You see that would draw America into another war and weaken America further. With Obama they have an opportunity to work with America again, assuming Obama's not gonna do the "we don't talk with dictatorships" thing. So if they're gonna launch an attack, they've chosen the worst possible time.

I know a lot of you aren't gonna like this comment, but that's my opinion and I don't think we have enough like it here at LGF.

794 samhein  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:22:04pm

re: #130 secsailor

Actually this is the second time I'm ashamed of my country. The first was when Clinton's approval ratings shot up to 70% when the Monica affair came to light.

Never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather have a Clinton back in in White House (Bill or Hillary) right now.

arrrggghhh!

795 LGoPs  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:23:50pm

re: #250 Sharmuta

I apologize for the inability to be gracious at the moment, Charles. I'm angry.

I'm angry at the media. I'm angry at mindless democrats who don't realize they're not really leftists. I'm angry at fellow party members who think this is a good thing. I'm angry at the media. Yes- I realize I said that twice. They're traitors. They are the enemy. I'm angry at the fraud we just watched be perpetrated on this country by their lies and distortions.

I'll roll up my sleeves and get to work tomorrow, but I can't find much graciousness in me at the moment. Again, Charles- you are a class act.

I would add that much of my anger is toward my fellow citizens who exhibit no critical thinking and seem to enjoy being openly manipulated, brainwashed and led around by the nose. God help us...

796 Brooklyn  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:42:02pm

re: #686 Mr. E. Train

Well said! I totally agree.

Here's a quote from a great article that Steven den Beste (former author of "USS Clueless") posted today:

And now we need to show the lefties how to lose. Our mission for the next four years is to be in opposition without becoming deranged.

As Instapundit says, "Read the whole thing."

797 traderjoe9  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 2:42:11pm

re: #755 pleaseandthankyou

Give me a break. Dark period. You sound like a liberal. Have a little optimism. Conservatism means, for me means taking responsibility for one's own life, not blaming ills and perils on the supreme leader. The birds will chirp tomorrow just like yesterday, and al qaeda will hate us just the same.

I'm going to be completely honest...you just made my day with that statement. I've always known that principle, but for some reason I completely neglected it for the past several weeks. Thank you.

798 LGoPs  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:11:42pm

re: #792 Malleus Dei

Sorry - I didn't mean to down ding you...meant to ding the comment below you

799 grahamski  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:46:21pm

re: #67 hermeneutics

I'm getting my children dual citizenship in Chile. Its over.

My family has been in this country since 1650. And now we're seriously contemplating leaving.

Obama is not worthy of the White House. He bought the election. The MSM is complicit in his election. He came to power through fraud, ACORN, lies and deception.

Sorry, I cannot congraduate him on his election. He wasn't elected.


Americans don't run, we stand and fight...to the end!.

Thomas Jefferson was right, and now is the time.

800 Cutty Sark  Wed, Nov 5, 2008 8:16:48pm

# 67 -please leave as soon as possible .

#799 -yea ,now's the time to fight ...amongst ourselves ...yea ! it's ...it's ...the other half of the USA that is our enemy ! Ra ,Ra ,Ra , ...and while we have another of our monumental pissing contests , the radical religious fanatics will resume flying lessons .

Right under our noses , just like they did the last time .And lets add some political office politics amongst the heads of our intelligence services , so we can get blind-sided again .

scuse me while I barf .

801 rikzilla  Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:29am

The people have spoken. Congrats to President-elect Obama. Once again our democracy has functioned as advertized, bringing a peaceful transfer of power in response to the express wishes of a majority of our people. We may not celebrate the man who has been elected to the highest office in our land, but we do need to recognize that our democracy itself is healthy.

So celebrate the system...and let's show the moonbattery a determined opposition that is also a loyal one. Who knows...maybe some of them will actually learn something? That'd be some change we need...eh?

In the meantime think happy thoughts...there's no better fertilizer in which to grow a future two-term Republican administration than another failed Democrat attempt at socialism.

802 vancomycin  Thu, Nov 6, 2008 5:34:13am

Sorry #793, but socialism (dare I even say, communism) isn't going to be an acceptable "economic policy" for many, many people in this county. The welfare queens you seem to feel deserving of our money might think it's the greatest thing ever, but, no, the people that *actually* produce goods, provide real services and actually contribute to society in some real, meaningful way, not so much.

803 Gutneshama  Thu, Nov 6, 2008 8:45:15am

Although I am not from Pennsylvania, I am one helluva bitter, angry white person. This election was fixed from the beginning. He has done NOTHING to merit the most important job in the world. This is Affirmative
Action at it's most dangerous. I've had a lot of scary nightmares in my life, but never while I am wide awake. Please, make it go away!

804 bullskin  Thu, Nov 6, 2008 10:19:46am

re: #116 newsjunkie_ky

How is the Country to survive when half of it's citizens are idiots?

Sadly that what happened in Spain before, communists in a socialist costume. First, they sold half the state gold reserves. They promised then 2500 euros per born child and a 400 tax discounts (before raising them), but Spain is sinking. Unemployment arising, crime, etc. And the same 51% who voted this nightmare voted again four more years. Why?, no matter the bigger the lie, they believe all. They will always blame the former government. That's all.

805 bullskin  Thu, Nov 6, 2008 10:27:34am

re: #759 ashan

America just chose the winner - Marxist Idol. Soon CDs of the Dear Leader's speeches and words to the faithful will be distributed to every household and taught in the schools.

I forgot to mention that is already happening in Spain, they call the mandatory subject "Education for citizenship".


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