Obama’s Victory Speech
The president elect is giving his victory speech, and here’s one more thread to discuss it.
The president elect is giving his victory speech, and here’s one more thread to discuss it.
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freetoken Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:00pm |
"One more thread" will not be enough, I think...
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:28pm |
Charles, it's awfully hard to hold my tongue. But you lead as a great example.
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:05:58pm |
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Tumulus11 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:07:19pm |
. In the first minute we get 'Hope' and 'Change'.
A twofer.
Drink..
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Percopius Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:00pm |
Let's see what happens. A lot of stuff can happen. We live in interesting times for sure.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:04pm |
re: #7 J.S.
Who cares?
Well, one way or another, you should care. He is your president elect. He will need our support when he does well, and when he doesn't, we will speak out.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:15pm |
Will he say anything meaningfully? Um, no.
/no more free riding on bull[expletive deleted] asshole
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Eclectic Infidel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:54pm |
Shiny.
Now I can retire for the evening.
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:08:59pm |
I'm going to give this topic and the previous one an accidental middle-finger, because my cheek is itchy.
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iChef Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:09:01pm |
He's already runnin for '12 ... and making excuses for his failures
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:03pm |
re: #9 Tumulus11
. In the first minute we get 'Hope' and 'Change'.
A twofer.
Drink..
OH...MY...GAWD! A FOUR YEAR DRINKING GAME!
/Count me in!
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kiwiviv Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:03pm |
I wonder if the Dems will be as gracious in victory and McCain was in defeat tonight
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:14pm |
Norm Coleman up by 20,000 votes, with 56% in.
[Link: elections.cbslocal.com...]
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:15pm |
My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.Our Constitution works; our great Republic is a government of laws and not of men. Here the people rule. But there is a higher Power, by whatever name we honor Him, who ordains not only righteousness but love, not only justice but mercy.
...Oops! Wrong speech.
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:29pm |
Here, Lizards, a heart-warming story, even if OT:
I was an election judge in MN today. At one point, another judge and I helped an elderly Vietnamese man, now a citizen, fill out his ballot. The man had severe palsy in his hands and seemed also to have trouble understanding the ballot, what with the seven candidates for President. We read the names to him twice. He couldn't seem to decide. But before we could do it a third time, he burst out: "I came here today to vote for John McCain, to thank him for trying to save my country." And so he voted.
It says a lot about both that man and McCain.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:31pm |
According to FOX News, Ohio and Pennsylvania have voted to bankrupt their coal industries.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:49pm |
He was very gracious toward McCain and Palin.
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kiwiviv Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:52pm |
Now he is talking about humility - I don't think he can spell the word
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:10:54pm |
re: #8 Dar ul Harb
Now, why didn't anyone think of that before?
I believe gsmc has used that gem before. I give it a big thumbs up.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:01pm |
re: #8 Dar ul Harb
Now, why didn't anyone think of that before?
They did...right here at LGF.. including lyrics. Too tired to search.
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PSGInfinity Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:19pm |
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:26pm |
Never in the history of the world have so much given so much for so little.
/hey dumbasses, do you understand the word sacrifice?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:26pm |
They're chanting "YES WE CAN" like we would chant "U-S-A"
UGH!
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:27pm |
re: #18 jaunte
He's running for re-election already.
That's all he's any good at. Actually governing is probably beneath his notice.
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Karl Popper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:11:38pm |
Charles, by being gracious, and congratulating our President Elect -- yes, OUR President Elect, for the entire country -- is a roll model. One we can all emulate.
Yes, people here will undoubtedly oppose many, if not most, of President Obama's policies when he in fact becomes President. But I don't think it would do any harm, and may do some small good, if for one night we follow Charles' lead and show some respect.
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:05pm |
No cheers for defeating the enemy. What with that.
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Rev. Right Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:17pm |
Lord help the United States,this is going to be a very bad four years
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:19pm |
re: #17 iChef
He's already runnin for '12 ... and making excuses for his failures
Re-election times infinity.
Twice.
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aainca Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:22pm |
I turned the sound off on PJTV until "The One" is done.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:27pm |
re: #29 SummerSong
They did...right here at LGF.. including lyrics. Too tired to search.
I think the lyrics came from free republic first. Although, it might have been different lyrics than used there. If some gets a link to both, you can check the dates and compare the lyrics.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:31pm |
All I can say to President Obama is ... "Be careful what you wish for... It might come true."
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:43pm |
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:12:48pm |
I was asleep, since I've been sick. Now I'm really sick.
This cannot be happening. Our country cannot survive this.
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:22pm |
Can you imagine him at Arlington on Veteran's Day? I can't. Well, not without throwing up
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:46pm |
Positive news, Coleman has a 15000 lead with 55% reporting.
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Ojoe Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:13:50pm |
I hope he's good.
The office will change him, most probably.
Chin up, Lizards.
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:00pm |
This is the part in the movie where you wake up and realize it's all been a dream...a terrible, terrible dream.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:04pm |
"Our union can be perfected"
Perfected? Who will decide when it's perfect? This guy is a bit lacking in humility.
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CommonSense Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:12pm |
Congrats to Sen. Obama, hopefully with all the celebrations and parties you do not forget to wire my house payment directly to the bank.
Constitution derailment in T minus 2 1/2 months.
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mattm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:14pm |
Whose support you will not earn. Why do you need my help Sen. Obama?
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:35pm |
re: #36 non-lib Nina
He is not my President
Buck up...now, our job is to block and blunt him every chance we can, because too many were dazzled by his "Hope!" and "Change!" bullshit.
We may be down, but not out!
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:40pm |
my fellow americans, our long nightmare is just beginning, i am sure someone has already said that so i do apologize. having said that, i cant watch, i am going to bed now, tomorrow i will get up and go on with my life and deal with it just as always, will it be harder, YOU BETCHA,
re: #22 Dar ul Harb
...Oops! Wrong speech.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:45pm |
re: #46 Tigger2005
Our country cannot survive this.
Then your country is sorry and weak. I'll survive and so will my country. Bummer for you.
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OtisMyMan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:50pm |
He already backpedaling! I might not be able to do it in one year or one term!
SUCKERS! Ya got me in now, fuck you!
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:52pm |
re: #52 CommonSense
Congrats to Sen. Obama, hopefully with all the celebrations and parties you do not forget to wire my house payment directly to the bank.
Constitution derailment in T minus 2 1/2 months.
lol
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abbamd Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:54pm |
Michelle's dress is AWFUL! Was it a left over costume from Halloween?
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:14:58pm |
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Griffon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:02pm |
He's turning his speech into some sort of church service with responses. Yes we can, yes we can. It sounds ridiculous.
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itellu3times Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:03pm |
He's still babbling on onwards after fifteen minutes.
He does not seem to have a clue as to what to say or do next, how to actually engage.
Boy, is he in for some edumacation.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:03pm |
I'm sorry, Lizards. I have lost my faith in the American people.
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beholden Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:19pm |
"Not everyone will agree with my decisions."
Understatement of the decade...
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:19pm |
How about Kwanza at the White House. Before you attack me as racist Obama says they do not celebrate Christmas.Kids get too much the rest of the year.
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Tumulus11 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:36pm |
. Repeated cult-like chanting of 'Yes we can!'
More 'Change.'
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trolamc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:37pm |
It goes to point out that voting is a right ... not a privilege ... how can we expect people to respect a privilege with an informed logical decision... give a man a fish (or should I say give that man my fish...) ... for the next four years
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the lizard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:48pm |
of course he's already running for re-election. every time he gets a job, he's already thinking about his next one before he's even accomplished anything. that's all he has ever done.
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jcm Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:15:51pm |
re: #46 Tigger2005
I was asleep, since I've been sick. Now I'm really sick.
This cannot be happening. Our country cannot survive this.
Well survive, we will be stronger, we will continue to be America.
The path may not be easy, or short. But what was wrought here on this continent is an ideal, that men are free, government is with their consent, that ideal will endure.
It is up to you and I that it does endure.
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:01pm |
It must be my eyes and tiredness - but every time the camera cuts away from Obama and shows a long view of the lectern, my eyes tells me it's empty, there's no one there. Freaky.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:10pm |
Most stations are only reporting results from 50 states. What if McCain were to win the remaining 7?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:11pm |
Murtha won? John "Redneck, Racist, Our soldiers are baby killers" Murtha won.
Now I'm pissed.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:11pm |
re: #61 Noam Sayin'
Nope. ...and I don't regret it one single bit.
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:17pm |
When is he actually going to start saying something specific?
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Jack of Shadows Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:18pm |
Aiee. It has really come to pass. President-elect Urkel.
Times are about to get... interesting.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:19pm |
I have no interest in what this poser says. But I'll be watching each thing he does very closely.
As long as we have freedom of speech we can eventually get all our other freedoms back, then finally send socialism into the ashcan of history. Permanently.
Since young folks have not been taught the lessons of history, they will now be obliged to repeat it.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:23pm |
I could have done without seeing Jesse and Oprah.
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:23pm |
I can't bear to watch/listen to his victory speech.
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seagreenroom Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:23pm |
My only hope at this point is that Rezko sings and we can get this charlatan on that bogus real estate deal that netted him about $300,000. With any luck, TheOne can be thrown in prison before the ingauguration.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:39pm |
re: #66 nigella
How about Kwanza at the White House. Before you attack me as racist Obama says they do not celebrate Christmas.Kids get too much the rest of the year.
Yet another reason I feel sorry for his little girls.
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Percopius Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:39pm |
It's not that bad. I lived though Carter. But it is surreal.
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:43pm |
Israel attacks Iran in February with the aid of the U.S. The left goes nuts. Biden says, "Don't say I didn't warn you."
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:51pm |
re: #47 ChargerGirl
Can you imagine him at Arlington on Veteran's Day? I can't. Well, not without throwing up
I think there will be a growth industry in selling mouth guards (for preventing bitten tongues) to military and USSS personnel.
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:52pm |
I'd like one of those postmodern ironic
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The President
stickers please.
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Ojoe Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:57pm |
re: #64 Tigger2005
Not me.
But too many of us have been too lazy to really see the big picture, so there will be lessons impossible to ignore now.
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Desert Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:16:58pm |
re: #77 Noam Sayin'
When is he actually going to start saying something specific?
That's not his thing...come on...
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:07pm |
Thank God that is finally over (the election, I mean).
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nnorb Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:10pm |
Well folks, I did not know what to do with myself tonight, so decided to capture the new leadership, that we, America, have elected.
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Macker Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:14pm |
Oh, Obama is the President-Elect. When he takes office, I will use every ounce of my fiber to criticize him and every leftist policy he tries to enact. I will criticize him every time he schmoozes with terrorists, both foreign and domestic. I will criticize him when he begins to pull our Troops out of Iraq.
And I will work like hell to rebuild the Republican Party into what it was under Ronald Reagan. We'll need someone with an Iron Constitution to lead us. I'll make sure Barack Hussein Obama is a one-termer.
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FightingBack Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:15pm |
Brit calls it "soaring rhetoric."
I'll dump my TV tomorrow.
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kiwiviv Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:17pm |
re: #64 Tigger2005
I'm sorry, Lizards. I have lost my faith in the American people.
I haven't. I'm a new American - and I come in saying to you - don't give up now. This is still a great nation and a noble people
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:18pm |
re: #39 Rev. Right
Lord help the United States,this is going to be a very bad four years
Lord help also our military and our friends in Iraq and around the world at that.
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Roentgen Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:23pm |
McCain ran such a crappy campaign, hoping people would pick the nice, old grandpa. Perhaps nothing could have saved him after the economic meltdown, but his campaign lost on several fronts. With the exception of the Palin nomination, he always seemed to be trying to play catch-up.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:25pm |
re: #82 seagreenroom
My only hope at this point is that Rezko sings and we can get this charlatan on that bogus real estate deal that netted him about $300,000. With any luck, TheOne can be thrown in prison before the ingauguration.
Oh, and then you get Biden.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:42pm |
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gop_patriot Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:45pm |
Well, I'm going to take a break from the election, and go read a book.
And Charles, THANK YOU for LGF. It's kept me sane through this election. You are awesome.
God save the Republic
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:50pm |
Now Biden can show his face again. But we probably won't be hearing much from him anymore. I hope.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:52pm |
I asked it on the last thread, and I'm going to ask it again and elaborate-
What are you going to do to correct this ideological trend?
Don't answer me- answer yourself. What are you going to do?
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:53pm |
re: #90 Racer X
Thank God that is finally over (the election, I mean).
But the next one just started! Obama implied he needs TWO terms!
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:17:58pm |
I just hope the guy is up to it. . .
So far, it hasn't looked promising.
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Gitarzan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:02pm |
Now, it's time for us to play the role of the loyal opposition...loyal to the country and to the Constitution, that is.
I'm sure as hell not willing to let this country go quietly into that good night..WOLVERINES!
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:14pm |
re: #76 Killgore Trout
Nope. ...and I don't regret it one single bit.
Then maybe you should shut the fuck up about a lot of things.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:16pm |
Well, the MSM got their guy in. Caveat Emptor, MFers.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:32pm |
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:42pm |
It is rather frightening that a man who couldn't get a security clearance for any other high-ranking government job will be the next POTUS and have all of our national secrets.
I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:43pm |
I agree that Israel has no choice but to attack Iran before January.
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:18:50pm |
God bless and protect our military. Hussein won't.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:11pm |
re: #103 arethusa
But the next one just started! Obama implied he needs TWO terms!
Only 2? On Meet The Press, he was looking forward to being president for the next 8-10 years!
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:13pm |
Respect the office, if not the man. Sorry, non-lib Nina, Obama is the President elect, and will be our President come Jan. 2009. Given that he is a marxist, and that the hard left will control both houses of Congress, I only expect misery for at least the next two years. However, I earnestly HOPE (theres that word again) that when he receives daily briefings illustrating just how many people want to kill Americans, he re-evaluates some of his down-right dangerous positions.
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:16pm |
Okay, L.A. Times, you can release the tape now.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:19pm |
re: #84 Percopius
It's not that bad. I lived though Carter. But it is surreal.
Back then we didn't have to worry about Iran having nukes.
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lori lane Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:20pm |
re: #60 abbamd
Michelle's dress is AWFUL! Was it a left over costume from Halloween?
It looks like a ladybug.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:33pm |
He's laying it on thick.
/is he going to say anything relevant to everyday life?
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musicman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:34pm |
I have not watched one news station this evening. I have just monitored LGF all evening.
Our pastor's prayer this last Sunday was that God would give a president we needed and not one that we deserve. God is Sovereign, I will let you decide which He chose for us.
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wong fei hung Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:38pm |
I'm not gonna watch President Soros' puppet give another of his lofty speeches.
I'm going to bed.
But first thing I'm gonna do when I get up is sharpen my teeth and claws.
This is merely the beginning of the battle.
-WFH
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:43pm |
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Desert Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:19:56pm |
re: #107 Ward Cleaver
Well, the MSM got their guy in. Caveat Emptor, MFers.
I hear ya, brother! Be careful what you ask for, cause you might just get it. Well, they have it now...so, we'll see what they do with it
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:11pm |
If the left can call President Bush, W, then I'll just call the next president, hussein.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:18pm |
One entity to blame for this.
Not McCain - he actually did fairly well considering what he was up against.
Not the American people - they were fooled.
I blame the media. And I hold a grudge.
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:27pm |
re: #105 talon_262
Now, it's time for us to play the role of the loyal opposition...loyal to the country and to the Constitution, that is.
I'm sure as hell not willing to let this country go quietly into that good night..WOLVERINES!
Love it!
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Pete(Detroit) Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:29pm |
re: #21 SaneInMN
Let's hope that stays in there - we'll need all the help we can get...
Hell, mebbee Jesse in for senate / rep in '10?
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rawmuse Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:31pm |
All the moonbats that said the "Bush regime" would never hand over power were full of shit.
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:44pm |
He's going to have to deal with a lot of challenges in the next four years, with unforeseen circumstances. I wouldn't even dream to venture a guess of what 2012 will be like. I mean, who would have thunk on the eve of Bush's re-election that the new star rolled out at the DNC would be elected president four years later, and after it was revealed just what a complete scumbag he is.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:48pm |
re: #102 Sharmuta
I'm going to educate my children in economics and tax policy.
They already know they have something to lose. I'll show them in detail what it is, and who it will be going to.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:51pm |
re: #93 FightingBack
Brit calls it "soaring rhetoric."
I'll dump my TV tomorrow.
Soaring rhetoric is very faint praise.
Fox is going to want some access. Really, you can't condemn them too much stacked against the other news networks. They don't claim to be biased for the Republicans.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:20:53pm |
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:26pm |
re: #79 Freedom Fan
I have no interest in what this poser says. But I'll be watching each thing he does very closely.
As long as we have freedom of speech we can eventually get all our other freedoms back, then finally send socialism into the ashcan of history. Permanently.
Since young folks have not been taught the lessons of history, they will now be obliged to repeat it.
yes as they say, becareful what you wish for or from this day forward vote for, change you know knothing about
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aainca Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:35pm |
re: #84 Percopius
It's not that bad. I lived though Carter. But it is surreal.
We did get through Carter but he got the mortagage problems started 30 years ago, what foul crop will spring up from the seeds BHO plants?
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:21:38pm |
re: #102 Sharmuta
I asked it on the last thread, and I'm going to ask it again and elaborate-
What are you going to do to correct this ideological trend?
Don't answer me- answer yourself. What are you going to do?
My husband has been urging me to run for GOP state committeewoman, but after what happened to Joe the Plumber, I was having second thoughts.
Now I may have to have think about it yet again.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:11pm |
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Karl Popper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:23pm |
re: #35 Karl Popper
Charles, by being gracious, and congratulating our President Elect -- yes, OUR President Elect, for the entire country -- is a roll model. One we can all emulate.
Yes, people here will undoubtedly oppose many, if not most, of President Obama's policies when he in fact becomes President. But I don't think it would do any harm, and may do some small good, if for one night we follow Charles' lead and show some respect.
Please forgive me for quoting myself, but I want to add another point and keep it all in context.
President Elect Obama will get approximately 53% of vote -- not a landslide, regardless how of the Electoral College may look like.
But still... do we really want to take the position, in public, on this historic night, that 53% of our population are... stupid, or ignorant, or both? That the majority of people in... Florida... were stupid, or ignorant, or both? That the majority of the people in... Virgina... were stupid or ignorant or both?
Can we, for one night, have some respect for process, the office?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:29pm |
The voters did elect a black American. That in itself is a plus for the country. He may not represent all of the ideologies that we on LGF follow, but, think about it.
What happens next. Does this open up a new avenue for a strong black Republican in the future? What about a female candidate (Sarah Palin) in 2012?
No matter what, this is a historic event, and I think we can find a little pride in the fact that a black American won the election.
No, I didn't vote for him, and no, I don't agree with his policies. But I can be honest with myself and proud that it happened here.
My 2 cents.
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:29pm |
Rezko is hoping that Obama only gets one term so he can get pardoned in 4 years and not 8.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:38pm |
re: #128 rawmuse
All the moonbats that said the "Bush regime" would never hand over power were full of shit.
Hey, we've still got 2-1/2 months to go!
/ducking
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:22:58pm |
re: #125 Racer X
One entity to blame for this.
Not McCain - he actually did fairly well considering what he was up against.
Not the American people - they were fooled.
I blame the media. And I hold a grudge.
Grudge is not the fucking word. My language just got worse.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:20pm |
re: #4 Sharmuta
Now that was clever.
You asked what are we going to do on the previous thread. I tried to respond, with no love from the hamsters.
My buddy and I just grabbed the domain name thesocialiststatesofamerica.com. We'll try and put real information on there, not just the dribble that comes out of the msm. We need grassroots efforts. We need conservative people to stop being on the defensive. We need to be leaders, and we need to make the representatives and senators that we have left understand that we will not tolerate earmarks, spending more than we have, and WE MAKE PEOPLE PROUD TO WORK FOR THEMSELVES, not try and battle democrats in the populist boxing ring.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:21pm |
re: #124 newsjunkie_ky
If the left can call President Bush, W, then I'll just call the next president, hussein.
I'm going with Chairman O.
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uptight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:25pm |
Understand this well.
We are in opposition now.
Codepink, Cindy Sheehan, Breasts not Bombs, Noam Chomsky, Juan Cole, Ward Churchill, International ANSWER, Jeremiah Wright and every other scumbag in America is in charge via their new proxy. It's their "new dawn".
Fuck, even Jack Murtha won re-election.
Charles appeals for our dignity, and that's good - but we could behave like crack-crazed hyenas and still have more dignity in our dandruff than the new rulers showed in opposition.
I do not want us to let up one centimetre in our noble role in bringing the world's greatest country back from the darkness it fell into today.
If we get obsessed by being "gentlemen" we will reap the same frightful harvest that John McCain did with his lacklustre, effete but "gentlemanly" campaign. Fuck that shit.
What exactly do we have to lose? The presidency? The senate? The House? Too late, late, late.
Our fault lay in not fighting hard enough. Conservatism lost its teeth. We have to get them back and bite the throat out of the New American Socialism.
We need to be tougher than ever before. Harder than ever before. More prolific than ever before. Conservatives need to organise - and with the spectre of snobby, liberal fake Republicanism (in the shape of McCain) dispatched to the shitheap of failures, the path is clear for our return.
Stand tall in opposition, Lizardoids. THE REAL WORK BEGINS TODAY.
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jayzee Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:31pm |
re: #19 CIA Reject
OH...MY...GAWD! A FOUR YEAR DRINKING GAME!
/Count me in!
I'm out of scotch. Fuck.
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democast Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:42pm |
Welcome to the dawn of the Era of Esau!
Watch Joo-Tube.com for blow-by-blow commentary.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:45pm |
jesse is there. jesse said he wanted to cut his nuts off.
wtf. has happened to society?
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:49pm |
I'll keep fighting. But right now, I am really, really tired and depressed.
And I'm sorry, I honestly don't know how we will survive the next four years. I believe they will be the most critical ones our nation has ever faced, and I have no confidence in Obama to make a single right decision. Not one. If we think he will somehow miraculously change and become a real leader, we're kidding ourselves.
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Lightspeed Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:51pm |
I pray that he is only a politician clawing his way to the top and not the radical Marxist I fear him to be. He deserves credit for his monumental achievement and congratulations. He will have my support when he promotes the values and ideals that made this country great, and my fierce opposition when he does not. Sad to say, but I fear greatly that his true nature will bring an end to the United States of America as we know it. This video will keep me up at night until he proves me wrong:
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:52pm |
We will wipe Israel of the face of the map
/yes we can!
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:57pm |
re: #144 righthanded
C'mon. All we need right now is another wacko conspiracy theory.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:23:59pm |
re: #96 Roentgen
McCain ran such a crappy campaign, hoping people would pick the nice, old grandpa. Perhaps nothing could have saved him after the economic meltdown, but his campaign lost on several fronts. With the exception of the Palin nomination, he always seemed to be trying to play catch-up.
McCain was running uphill the entire time.
America likes to clean house every eight years, swapping parties.
The current President has been demonized like no prior POTUS in American history.
And McCain simply could not get anything even resembling even-handed press treatment.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:00pm |
re: #71 the lizard
of course he's already running for re-election. every time he gets a job, he's already thinking about his next one before he's even accomplished anything. that's all he has ever done.
Naw. I'd say he's not too worried about that right now. The entire system the Dems have set up-media, education, and a pretty much everything in between-will do the heavy lifting.
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:00pm |
Betcha Hillary is drunk right now. Frightening thought.
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Brigman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:04pm |
Here's to the Hope that when President-Elect Obama (ouch) sits down behind the desk in the oval office for the first time, it hits home for him and he says to himself "This is America, I don't think I should Change it too much. We are who we are for a reason."
Oh dear Lord I pray for that. That is all we can do for the next four years.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:18pm |
re: #143 Walter L. Newton
Not arguing that thought.
Please God. Give me the defeat of Al Franken.
C'mon. Please?!
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:19pm |
re: #137 aainca
We did get through Carter but he got the mortagage problems started 30 years ago, what foul crop will spring up from the seeds BHO plants?
We can start with SCOTUS justices. At least maybe he'll just replace libs with libs.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:23pm |
re: #143 Walter L. Newton
The voters did elect a black American. That in itself is a plus for the country. He may not represent all of the ideologies that we on LGF follow, but, think about it.
What happens next. Does this open up a new avenue for a strong black Republican in the future? What about a female candidate (Sarah Palin) in 2012?
No matter what, this is a historic event, and I think we can find a little pride in the fact that a black American won the election.
No, I didn't vote for him, and no, I don't agree with his policies. But I can be honest with myself and proud that it happened here.
My 2 cents.
Thank you Walter - I concur. I've been trying to put that exact sentiment in words and you nailed it.
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trolamc Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:28pm |
re: #85 HelloDare
Israel attacks Iran in February with the aid of the U.S. The left goes nuts. Biden says, "Don't say I didn't warn you."
You are a genius
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:32pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:35pm |
re: #144 righthanded
O- FFS! Take the kookservative shit elsewhere.
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:37pm |
re: #81 neocon hippie
I can't bear to watch/listen to his victory speech.
be either no tv and i do not even want to touch the frcking papers tonight, my only consolation was that when driving home from my ffriends houes in sparks, my car adorned with McCain stickers and anti- bo,, the roads were empyt, everyone was at the casion apparently celebrating the messiah , thank goodness i made it home safely
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:43pm |
re: #138 Florida Lady
My husband has been urging me to run for GOP state committeewoman, but after what happened to Joe the Plumber, I was having second thoughts.
Now I may have to have think about it yet again.
Go for it!
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Mosse Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:24:47pm |
Thanks for everything, Charles and Lizards. Let's not forget everything we've learned in these months. We know what Obama, Axelrod, Ayers and their supporters believe, and we need to continue on exposing them and naming who they are. Buck up. We've lost a battle, but not the war. Try to get some sleep.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:03pm |
re: #125 Racer X
One entity to blame for this.
Not McCain - he actually did fairly well considering what he was up against.
Not the American people - they were fooled.
I blame the media. And I hold a grudge.
I posted this at the very end of the last thread-
We need good news. Pelosi thought the dems would pick up what? 60 seats in the house?
They didn't even pick up a dozen, and she still has to deal with 45 blue-dog conservative democrats.
Reid won't have his 60 seat filibuster proof majority in the Senate. Close, but no cigar.
As you all go to sleep tonight, remember, it was bad, but it could have been much worse.
Pray for America, and that Mr. Obama realizes this is not a mandate from the American people for "change".
The Wall street financial meltdown, and the hatred of President Bush just about sealed McCain's fate.
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Percopius Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:13pm |
re: #137 aainca
We did get through Carter but he got the mortagage problems started 30 years ago, what foul crop will spring up from the seeds BHO plants?
Good point. I am trying to avoid the feeling of doom really. I mean, what am I going to do? Things tend to go in cycles.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:28pm |
re: #154 nyc redneck
jesse is there. jesse said he wanted to cut his nuts off.
wtf. has happened to society?
Jesse wants some cash money.
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Wookieelips Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:34pm |
re: #23 arethusa
Here, Lizards, a heart-warming story, even if OT:
I was an election judge in MN today. At one point, another judge and I helped an elderly Vietnamese man, now a citizen, fill out his ballot. The man had severe palsy in his hands and seemed also to have trouble understanding the ballot, what with the seven candidates for President. We read the names to him twice. He couldn't seem to decide. But before we could do it a third time, he burst out: "I came here today to vote for John McCain, to thank him for trying to save my country." And so he voted.
It says a lot about both that man and McCain.
Okay, you just made me cry.
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Desert Dog Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:25:49pm |
I'm not moving to Canada, so in a few months, President Bush will step down and President Obama will take his place. He's just one guy and the Congress is just 435 guys...sure, they can do a lot of damage if left alone. But, the USofA will still be standing after they get done screwing it up. If the poor Moonbats can survive 8 years of Bush, we can handle this...
What does not kill you makes you stronger...this is not a lethal blow (But, it sure does BLOW!).
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:48pm |
My state let you down Senator McCain.
I'm sorry I did not do more.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:49pm |
re: #159 looking closely
McCain was running uphill the entire time.
America likes to clean house every eight years, swapping parties.
The current President has been demonized like no prior POTUS in American history.
And McCain simply could not get anything even resembling even-handed press treatment.
Part of me is surprised it was even this close. Thank Sarah Palin that it wasn't a complete blow-out.
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Twenglish Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:55pm |
I think everyone here is going to do a bang up job being the opposition here .
We're counting on you Charles , it's gonna be okay .
We will need alert minds and good communication to keep a watch over the impending situation .
My condoleances to fellow Lizards , but like John Paul Jones said : "We have only begun to fight "
So the next 4 years are going to be fighting years if you love America ...and when it happens we will be the first know as usual ...
Change... , I can see it all before me , Change I can see it all hapeening ..."Say Buddy you got change for a 50 I need to make a phone call ...to Elvis
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:26:55pm |
re: #115 SaneInMN
Respect the office, if not the man. Sorry, non-lib Nina, Obama is the President elect, and will be our President come Jan. 2009. Given that he is a marxist, and that the hard left will control both houses of Congress, I only expect misery for at least the next two years. However, I earnestly HOPE (theres that word again) that when he receives daily briefings illustrating just how many people want to kill Americans, he re-evaluates some of his down-right dangerous positions.
He's a US Senator already (though admittedly, barely one).
Presumeably someone has hit him with a clue stick by this point.
I just hope he doesn't make his damn tax increases retroactive, the way Clinton did.
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:03pm |
Throwing out a financial question:
I'm at least 30 years from retiring. I currently put 6% into my TSP, which is like a 401(k). I don't have any debt, but I don't have a big cash cushion either. Any smart lizards think I should cut back on my retirement savigs until I have a cushion of liquid cash for expenses, or should I keep making the contributions and save up spare cash in dribs and drabs? Advice, please.
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kynna Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:04pm |
Remember how scared Pelosi was of the dems being solely responsible for passing the bail-out? Let's make our Republicans force the dems to shoulder the burden they've placed on the US. They made the mess and blamed Republicans. They demanded a clean-up that is no clean-up at all. Now they can own it.
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freetoken Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:06pm |
re: #141 Karl Popper
President Elect Obama will get approximately 53% of vote -- not a landslide, regardless how of the Electoral College may look like.
Not sure CA will push it quite to 53%, but whether it is 52.4% or 52.9%... not really significant.
Yes, the non-blowout still shows that the voters are very evenly divided. Makes one want to do Monday morning quarterbacking (Wednesday morning politicking?)... and wonder what would have happened if the GOP had picked a slightly more congenial candidate (charisma and looks count.)
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Brisco County Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:18pm |
So let's look at how this happened. Democrats promote policy to ruin the economy, Republicans tried to prevent this policy, the economy is ruined, Republicans get blamed, Democrats win elections.
That's quite some change.
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guzziguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:21pm |
I'll do everything I can do for the next 4 years to avoid having to listen to anything our new SOB in chief has to say. I've heard all I need from him.
Communist in the white house. Shit.
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littleben Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:30pm |
The loyal opposition must gird its loins- and come out fighting.We must defend the Republic and Constitution from this charleton.
I watched the Travis Smileys and other talking heads and they are already setting us up.
They have put out the message that if we attack the Pres-elect for his policies, they will examine our actions for traces of racism.
We have to ditch this putrid tactic, and come out fighting for the future of this country, to keep it as the USA, not the USSA.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:33pm |
re: #137 aainca
We did get through Carter but he got the mortagage problems started 30 years ago, what foul crop will spring up from the seeds BHO plants?
I pray for the health of our Supreme Court justices.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:38pm |
re: #159 looking closely
McCain was running uphill the entire time.
America likes to clean house every eight years, swapping parties.
The current President has been demonized like no prior POTUS in American history.
And McCain simply could not get anything even resembling even-handed press treatment.
A Republican always has two opponents; the Democrat and the MSM.
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:27:46pm |
re: #134 SaneInMN
Shit! Franken up by 105 votes with 64% in.
I've got Coleman up by 16000 with 59% in (on abcnews). What site are you looking at?
I can deal with Obama being President, I guess, but I'm sure I can't deal with Franken being my Senator.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:07pm |
re: #175 Ward Cleaver
Jesse wants some cash money.
that's called "direct results" in community agitator lingo
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:31pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:36pm |
re: #106 Noam Sayin'
Go ahead and put together another unqualified ticked of hicks and weak idiots in 2012 (as I expect the Republicans to do again). You will lose. Who's the asshole in this situation? You or me?
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:39pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
Thanks, republicans. Nice job.
/
You get to bitch when you vote. You pissed it all away, coward.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:42pm |
re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My state let you down Senator McCain.
I'm sorry I did not do more.
Same here; we Texans did our part, and we're sending John Cornyn back to DC for another six years.
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Idle Drifter Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:28:44pm |
Well we've made our bed and now we'll have to sleep in it.
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gman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:14pm |
The mission of LGF to spread the truth FDP (Fairness Doctrine Permitting) has just become more important than ever.
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freeus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:14pm |
I think the hardest thing for me is that our military is going to have to serve under a man that accused them of the most vilest acts. I feel like I let them down, the best of our best, those that are beyond self-centered and signed the dotted line to keep my family safe. Sorry seems to be beyond inadequate. But I am so sorry to their families, to them and I have no answer as to what just happened. I have no answer.
I do not see us turning this around when one ponders the Supreme Court and federal judges that will be appointed. Look at the trouble we have had from Clinton appointees! I will still fight, I will still pray for my country, but at this moment, at this time, I do not see the hope and change offered by Barak Obama and David Axelrod as being something good for my country.
If anyone out there has some PUMA info would you please share it with me. I have been defending them and there is info that PUMAS went huge for Obama and I am just not buying that until a PUMA tells me. I do not get PA. I do not get PA. I will never get PA.
May God have mercy on us and may he continue to bless the United States of America. We are going to need all the help we can get.
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:19pm |
re: #105 talon_262
Now, it's time for us to play the role of the loyal opposition...loyal to the country and to the Constitution, that is.
I'm sure as hell not willing to let this country go quietly into that good night..WOLVERINES!
yes WOLVERINES! indeed, never believe that scenario would happen here but as we were watching this tonight we revisited our once unimaginable family plan for just such
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:41pm |
re: #143 Walter L. Newton
The voters did elect a black American. That in itself is a plus for the country. He may not represent all of the ideologies that we on LGF follow, but, think about it.
Hopefully this means that the thesis of "Rev.'s" Wright, Jackson, and Sharpton (and 0bama for that matter!) that the U.S. is irredeemably racist has been given its ultimate refutation.
They'll have to invent some new excuse.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:49pm |
re: #189 Brisco County
So let's look at how this happened. Democrats promote policy to ruin the economy, Republicans tried to prevent this policy, the economy is ruined, Republicans get blamed, Democrats win elections.
That's quite some change.
This started happening years ago as marxists infiltrated out education system and Americans were not taught the importance of individualism, but rather that of collectivism.
Instead of asking how we got here, the question is- what are we going to do now?
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HelloDare Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:29:50pm |
Wonder if his aunt in Boston voted for him? Never found out if she was registered.
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RememberSekhmet? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:19pm |
I don't want to hear a damn thing Hussein the Twit has to say...
oh, excuse me... President-elect Hussein the Twit.
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kynna Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:26pm |
Remember we would have been fighting to keep things from going to heck in a handbasket if McCain were elected as well.
The better man lost, but better candidates lost in both the dem and Republican primaries.
They may try to blame the loss on Palin. Don't let them! McCain wouldn't have come nearly so close (and he got a LOT of the popular vote, friends) if he hadn't pulled her in.
Florida Lady: go for it! The Republicans need an Army of Sarahs.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:46pm |
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Banner Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:50pm |
So, how long before we get punished by the government for dissenting?
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maddogg Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:30:53pm |
Well what the fuck. At least I will survive the Great Depression II. I can grow my own food. Lets see how the Obamaites do. They deserve the government they voted for.
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uptight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:25pm |
re: #191 littleben
The loyal opposition must gird its loins- and come out fighting.We must defend the Republic and Constitution from this charleton.
I watched the Travis Smileys and other talking heads and they are already setting us up.
They have put out the message that if we attack the Pres-elect for his policies, they will examine our actions for traces of racism.
We have to ditch this putrid tactic, and come out fighting for the future of this country, to keep it as the USA, not the USSA.
the way to beat the race card is to exhaust it
it's already an awesome cliche and the more the use it the less power it holds.
Be tough, hard scrupulous and evil in opposition.
They didn't do us any favours or show us any manners in opposition.
We can still claim the moral high ground but beat the almighty tar out of them at every turn.
That is the joy of opposition.
Rush is gonna become a positive sepent now.
This is going to be fun (in an evil way) - assuming Western Civilization survives President Hussein Obama
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:30pm |
re: #34 doppelganglander
Hey!
That's all he's any good at. Actually governing is probably beneath his notice.
actually it's above his pay grade.
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CommonSense Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:52pm |
re: #189 Brisco County
So let's look at how this happened. Democrats promote policy to ruin the economy, Republicans tried to prevent this policy, the economy is ruined, Republicans get blamed, Democrats win elections.
That's quite some change.
My head hurts trying to rationalize that fact.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:31:52pm |
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:32:40pm |
his speech was like all his speeches. verbose, empty flourishes.
i never feel uplifted after listening to him pontificate.
he never says a real thing,
it is melodious malarky.
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:32:49pm |
All this amidst a democrat policy-based economic meltdown of the highest order.
he media is plenty to blame, we are to blame, but I will say it, Bush is somewhat to blame as well.
If we had elected McCan in 2000...
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:32:58pm |
re: #155 Tigger2005
I'll keep fighting. But right now, I am really, really tired and depressed.
And I'm sorry, I honestly don't know how we will survive the next four years. I believe they will be the most critical ones our nation has ever faced, and I have no confidence in Obama to make a single right decision. Not one. If we think he will somehow miraculously change and become a real leader, we're kidding ourselves.
Obama cannot carry out his ambitions without destroying the democrats in short order after they've won such dominance. Bush had this exact same victory, over both sides of congress and the executive branch, and here we are 4 years later. This happened because he allowed spending to go unchecked, he didn't hold anyone accountable, and he didn't pursue any of the things he promised us.
Reagan held press conferences constantly and called out congressmen that weren't behaving. Bush - he just caved whenever Pelosi told him to shut up.
Obama, deep down inside, has a lot of stuff he'd like to do, but he can't pull it off. He had to run on a center-right platform to win. He can't go back on it that much without spoiling everything.
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Banner Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:33:03pm |
What will be really funny is how the Republicans will continue to get the blame as the economy tanks even farther with the Democrats in control of everything.
Just wait, they will do it. They did it last time too.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:33:25pm |
re: #11 Percopius
Let's see what happens. A lot of stuff can happen. We live in interesting times for sure.
the horse could learn to talk... %-)
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:33:40pm |
Can we, for one night, have some respect for process, the office?
Um would you be talking about bogus Acorn voter registration ... that process?
Or perhaps Obama's fundraising machine which takes credit cards without valid names or addresses ... that process?
Or perhaps the one-sided leg-tingling rooting for Obama by the MSM ... that process?
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:10pm |
re: #143 Walter L. Newton
The voters did elect a black American. That in itself is a plus for the country. He may not represent all of the ideologies that we on LGF follow, but, think about it.
What happens next. Does this open up a new avenue for a strong black Republican in the future? What about a female candidate (Sarah Palin) in 2012?
No matter what, this is a historic event, and I think we can find a little pride in the fact that a black American won the election.
No, I didn't vote for him, and no, I don't agree with his policies. But I can be honest with myself and proud that it happened here.
My 2 cents.
My take is a little different.
This is affirmative action at the highest level.
With zero executive experience in the public or private sector, and less than two years national-level legislative experience, he's simply not qualified to hold the office.
He conceded as much himself two years ago.
His wife did too.
So did VP-elect Joe Biden.
So did both Clintons.
So forgive me, if I don't take his election to POTUS as evidence that America is racially enlightened.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:17pm |
this simply proves that taking the high road does not work
time for taps
day is done
gone the sun
from the lake
from the hills
from the sky
all is well
safely rest
peace oppression is nigh
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Mauser Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:29pm |
re: #60 abbamd
Michelle's dress is AWFUL! Was it a left over costume from Halloween?
I was going to comment that it really makes her look fat, or maybe pregnant. but the hamsters were catching their breath. (In fact, this has failed to post three times)
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nkca1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:36pm |
The lefto whako's were rioting and breaking windows in Century City, They paused while the Fuhrer was speaking but now that the Fuhrers victory speach was over they are going back to the streets. There are about 4 helicopters over head now.
This is a very sad day for this great Nation. I am afraid, very afraid of our rights. Anyone speaking against the Fuhrer Obama will probably be visited by the civilian defense force he plans on building as soon as he steps into his new role.
How F'ed up is this? This country elects a man who never could have recieved any job requiring a security clearance and now he has the keys to all the countries most valuable secrets and is in charge of it's nuclear arsenal and armed forces? I wonder how long it will be before his racist Pastor and friend the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers pays him a visit?
This is a sick joke. The left can be so careless with all that so many hundreds and thousands of people sacrificed there lives to defend for.
They elect this SOB to the highest office just to spite the Republicans.
Great move. Throw the country under the bus just like your Fuhrer threw all his family and associates under the bus when they did not serve him to his satisfaction. I do not think I can take 8 years of this ass hole, where can I move to and take my money to until this bad dream is over?
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maddogg Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:37pm |
re: #220 buzzsawmonkey
I feel your pain. I mean it, and not like slick willie.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:42pm |
Is Bill Ayers really in the front of the crowd? I heard he was going to attend tonight.
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:44pm |
Coleman up 26000 with 62% reporting.
Am I really not going to bed until this is over? Urgh.
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:54pm |
respect Charles, yes
respect the process and the office, of course
think 53% of my felllow americans are ill informed or stupid, YES
re: #141 Karl Popper
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:34:58pm |
It looks like there might be a victory in California, where it appears Proposition 8, Defense of Traditional Marriage, might pass.
The county-by-county map is interesting, in that all the "No on 8" voters appear to be strangely clustered around one central place.
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Kulhwch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:22pm |
For the last 3 weeks I toured the US w/my eldest son, eating in diners, gassing at truck stops, etc. We got to spend time with my family back in the midwest, blue collar for generations, and see personally how bad things are, and listen to people talk about them. I wouldn't have missed it for the world and I hope it made a profound impression on him.
My family was greatly distressed to find that I'd become a Republican in the last few years. And there were some pointed conversation, but still, they're family and we all love each other. And I can't conceive of not standing behind a fellow American, even if they make wrong choices like tonight.
Been home all day preparing for a colonoscopy tomorrow, so this 'victory' by Barry just seems to be more of the same. Have to admit it, we Americans do our best work under adversity, and so the roller coaster of the next 4 years should be a chance to show our mettle.
}:/ [I'm for bed now. Goodnight lizards, chin up and keep up your vigilance ... this, too, shall pass ... ]
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holterbarbour Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:29pm |
"Change" comes in all sorts of forms, but let's not pretend it's progress when we lose the political balance of power that, for all its faults, is the best way to ensure that the will of the entire people is represented in the halls of Congress...
There is no longer a need for conciliatory bipartisanship. Our leaders no longer need to see past our differences to try and work out mutually advantageous legislation. As if waning personal responsibility and unchecked egos were not enough of a problem in American society, it has now been institutionalized for at least the next two years.
With House representatives becoming increasingly radicalized, shall we expect cooperation and inclusion from these leaders? Can we expect anything other than a series of measures passed solely to benefit one philosophy and perspective? Actually, I think we can-- I am quite certain that even those goals may be shunted aside for measures taken out of sheer spite. "Change!" may not be change, it may very well be "Go to hell, its OUR turn now!"
And what then? What of those moderates that determined this election, that become disaffected and alienated by their leaders? We may well expect the pendulum to swing back the other way--and the next term will be spent undoing those "changes." Moving left and moving right is not moving forward.
Our chance to elect John McCain, by far the most moderate candidate either party had proffered in a long time, has gone. Along with his aspirations to the Presidency, his hope for an Executive Cabinet staffed with Republicans and Democrats, evaporates. We have legitimized the media's shift from providing information to propagandizing.
We have given our leaders the power to silence dissent. Pray that they do not exercise that power.
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:33pm |
re: #179 Plumed Basilisk
BHO can go F*** himself! He is not my president! I'm sure he will be even worse than Carter was. Wake me up in 4 years. (sooner if he is gone sooner ;-) )
Get real. You sound just like the moonbat, ass-hats from eight years ago. He will be OUR President. He will be THE President of these United States. And we WILL be the LOYAL opposition, ensuring he maintains HIS loyalty to the Constitution.
And, I for one, will demand he protect our interests at home and abroad and unlike the Dems, my politics will end at the water's edge.
I wish him well. I have no desire to see the office of President diminished and pray he does nothing to tarnish it. We get behind him for the good of this country--not our party.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:40pm |
re: #226 Banner
What will be really funny is how the Republicans will continue to get the blame as the economy tanks even farther with the Democrats in control of everything.
Just wait, they will do it. They did it last time too.
I disagree. I see the economy getting better quickly - and democrats taking all the credit. Oh and don't look for house investigations into Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Franklin Raines et al anytime soon.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:40pm |
It just hit me... Obama Biden...? What the fuck happened?Sorry for the swear words but where is Mandy when I need her?
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JeremiahRight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:53pm |
someone send out the marching band to play "The World Turned Upside Down"
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:35:54pm |
Get ready to observe the biggest orgy of media fellatio on a President and a First Family like we have never seen, nor will ever witness again in this nation.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:13pm |
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:16pm |
Obama hasn't won by a landslide. There are a lot of Americans who do not like him, probably more than any other candidate in recent history. Despite all of the love, the honeymoon will be over in 4-6 months tops. The pundits and political watchdogs will be on him like vultures and it won't be pretty if he failes at the many challenges he will surely face. There will be plenty of opposition from half of this country while voting irregularities, ACORN, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will not be forgotten. Conservatives do not suffer from the same type of memory loss disorder as liberals as evidenced by this election and I predict our search for new leadership and ideas to further our cause start early in the morning. The outcome of this election is a direct result of an uneducated electorate and corrupt media. This is where we need to begin.
The country has been divided down racial and economic lines. This win did not heal anything, it has opened wounds and created an charged atmosphere. We must get out frustrations and mourn for a bit, but we need to let our emotions give us inspiration to solve problems. That's what we do best on these threads and we need to begin rebuilding the conservative movement...
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:28pm |
So what does the Senate look like? How is Gordon Smith doing in Oregon? Is Norm Coleman holding on to his lead? How many have the Rats gained? I only know of 3 so far - Virginia, North Carolina, & New Hampshire.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:33pm |
I have a feeling that this statement will be trashed for some reason:
BHO is the first 1/2 President.
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Scion9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:40pm |
It was a good speech, but he still couldn't get off the class warfare rhetoric even for it.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:51pm |
re: #199 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and put together another unqualified ticked of hicks and weak idiots in 2012 (as I expect the Republicans to do again). You will lose. Who's the asshole in this situation? You or me?
/you don't vote, you're clearly the asshole, entitled to your opinion, but not entitled to render judgment on someone who voted
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jtm371 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:52pm |
so who is going to teach this a$$clown how to salute?
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:36:56pm |
re: #150 uptight
there's a certain media vetting project that i'm thinking of joining, even just as an analyst... time they got the same treatment they give everyone else.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:37:25pm |
Poor Charles. I worry what will happen overnight with emotions this raw.
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xshaisu Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:37:28pm |
Holy crap!
Israel launches first airstrike on Gaza since June...
20 rockets fired from Gaza to Israel...
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:37:29pm |
re: #244 nigella
It just hit me... Obama Biden...? What the fuck happened?Sorry for the swear words but where is Mandy when I need her?
Somehow, what really brought it home was the thought of Michelle as First Lady and Biden as V-P.
/well, at least Biden will offer some entertainment for 4 years
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:38:05pm |
re: #247 astronmr20
Get ready to observe the biggest orgy of media fellatio on a President and a First Family like we have never seen, nor will ever witness again in this nation.
If the media swoons and half the country doesn't watch, will they care? I bet they will.
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:38:10pm |
Will there be investigations of ACORN and Hussein's fundraising?
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:38:16pm |
More than anything else, I hate that me-chelle will represent the Country as First Lady, which she is not.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:38:19pm |
re: #224 astronmr20
All this amidst a democrat policy-based economic meltdown of the highest order.
he media is plenty to blame, we are to blame, but I will say it, Bush is somewhat to blame as well.
If we had elected McCan in 2000...
that loser would have lost then too. he needs to go back to AZ and STFU...
(maybe after he joins the party he really belongs to anyway.)
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:38:21pm |
re: #186 Palandine
Even in steepest depressions the market has recovered 80 percent of it's value typically within 9 months. This was true even in the great depression. Build capital where you can.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:38:43pm |
re: #260 Sharmuta
Poor Charles. I worry what will happen overnight with emotions this raw.
If this were my blog, I would have shut down comments long ago. Too much emotion right now.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:13pm |
re: #207 Dar ul Harb
Hopefully this means that the thesis of "Rev.'s" Wright, Jackson, and Sharpton (and 0bama for that matter!) that the U.S. is irredeemably racist has been given its ultimate refutation. They'll have to invent some new excuse.
No they won't. We will always have the race baiters and we will always have racists. His election say that a black American can obtain the highest office in the land. But that doesn't cancel out racism.
Racism is not something that can be voted out (or in) or control or mandated by law, That is something that has to start in peoples hearts.
I'm still proud that America elected a black American. Now let's see where this will go from here.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:14pm |
Now we can get back to fun stuff, like car swarms and Yassinerations.
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Scion9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:15pm |
re: #230 looking closely
My take is a little different.
This is affirmative action at the highest level.
With zero executive experience in the public or private sector, and less than two years national-level legislative experience, he's simply not qualified to hold the office.
He conceded as much himself two years ago.
His wife did too.
So did VP-elect Joe Biden.
So did both Clintons.
So forgive me, if I don't take his election to POTUS as evidence that America is racially enlightened.
I don't think Walter said he was qualified. However you highlighted a chief argument of Shelbey Steele's. Earned it or not, qualified or not, successful in the role or not, because of Affirmative Action, Barack Obama will always have the onerous mantle of being the "Affirmative Action President".
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Aussie Stinger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:20pm |
Condolences, American friends.
This time last year our Conservatives here Down Under suffered the same fate.
This just hurts twice over.
Can always flee to Harper's Canada now.
/
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:29pm |
re: #194 SpartanWoman
Not even mildly amusing
/mark my words, Israel will be attacked and President Obama won't lift a finger
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PETN Sandwich Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:36pm |
Expect some heavy movement on the markets tonight (foreign) and tomorrow... Where will Barrack Hussein Obama's Administration dump tax dollars?
If I were cynical I would invest in barb-wire, concertina, slide projectors, and M-60s like they were gold... but realistically, food grains and burpee Seeds, and Mason jars.
Have you seen the price of arugula, pinto beans, and corn lately?
Safe manufacturers would be good too.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:39pm |
re: #186 Palandine
Throwing out a financial question:
I'm at least 30 years from retiring. I currently put 6% into my TSP, which is like a 401(k). I don't have any debt, but I don't have a big cash cushion either. Any smart lizards think I should cut back on my retirement savigs until I have a cushion of liquid cash for expenses, or should I keep making the contributions and save up spare cash in dribs and drabs? Advice, please.
My unprofessional opinion? Never cut back on your retirement contributions.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:45pm |
re: #265 newsjunkie_ky
More than anything else, I hate that me-chelle will represent the Country as First Lady, which she is not.
can we call her "First < deleted >"?
(no, it wasn't a cuss word)
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Ornery Ballsack Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:39:51pm |
I've never been a proponent of identity politics, but just out of curiosity is there a strong conservative Hispanic being groomed for 2012?
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Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:18pm |
re: #260 Sharmuta
Poor Charles. I worry what will happen overnight with emotions this raw.
I'm simply blocking the accounts of people who can't control themselves.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:23pm |
re: #217 realwest
Hey!
actually it's above his pay grade.
LOL! I honestly don't think he has the first clue what the job really entails. He's never done any of his other elected duties before. He is going to be shocked at the amount of work involved. And since he's never made a real decision in his life, I expect a certain amount of paralysis.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:36pm |
One of the things that bother sme the most is the election was called before 8 PM in California. The polls hadn't closed yet. Even if they knew the outcome why do they have to call it before the voting is over?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:39pm |
re: #256 Killian Bundy
Carry on, then. We'll have this conversation again in 2012. Good luck with that.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:45pm |
re: #143 Walter L. Newton
Very good post Walter. I tried to ding you up, but for some reason the + button didn't work.
And just think about this - America did elect a Black President.
What does that say or do for Affirmative Action?
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LC LaWedgie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:45pm |
When he started in on the hands on the ark deal, I knew it was time to leave.
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rawmuse Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:46pm |
I was downtown in San Francisco, walking to BART when I heard young people start to whoop it up. Then overheard a bunch of excited cell phone calls. They are practically overjoyed with this outcome. It is they that will have to pay for all of it, not so much me. I am happy that they are happy, even if I can't join in it.
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:40:46pm |
re: #277 PETN Sandwich
Expect some heavy movement on the markets tonight (foreign) and tomorrow... Where will Barrack Hussein Obama's Administration dump tax dollars?
If I were cynical I would invest in barb-wire, concertina, slide projectors, and M-60s like they were gold... but realistically, food grains and burpee Seeds, and Mason jars.
Have you seen the price of arugula, pinto beans, and corn lately?
Safe manufacturers would be good too.
M-240 is a better weapon, and uses the same ammo...
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twincitiesgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:00pm |
re: #200 Palandine
You get to bitch when you vote. You pissed it all away, coward.
Finally somebody said it. You lost your right to smirk or act holier than thou when you sat out this election. How many $#)*% like you will complain loudly the next 4 years and then have the audacity to blame those who voted.
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flaggman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:11pm |
2004: Canada re-elects cowardly leftist Liberal Party despite criminally corrupt scandal. America rejects effette cowardly leftist lib, and Bush promises to spend his political capital to kick some ass.
2008: Canada re-elects Conservative party to near-majority status. America rejects all semblance of checks-and-balances to flood Washington with a leftist supermajority.
/anything, anything, anything, anything is possible
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:22pm |
My fear is our weak congress will never criticize him for fear of being called racist so they'll do whatever he wants.
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mister fixer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:25pm |
I never imagined that this election would effect me like this. I am not angry. I am not puzzled. I am not bitter.
I am heartbroken.
What happened to my country? My country, tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I speak. What happened to the place where everyone believed that anyone here could do anything? What happened to the American dream? Where did we go wrong?
I know where we went wrong. We started looking at the American Dream as the American guarantee. We started to take and take and take and never give back, because what was the most important was the dollars in our pockets and not the welfare of our fellow man. We started to fight with our compatriots and hiss and spit and name-call because, God help us, we wanted to win for the sake of winning rather than lose for the sake of honor. We let our press become a propaganda machine and our schools become indoctrination centers because we couldn't spare the hour a week it would have took to check up on either. We allowed government to take up the roll we all ought to have taken up, allowed them to help the poor and feed the hungry, and now we are surprised that the government asks for their pound of flesh. We were fools, and we got what we deserved.
From here, what does a person who believes in freedom do? He does what he ought to have been doing before all this started happening: he gets involved in his community. He gets to know his neighbors. He puts in his time for people less fortunate than himself. He tells the stories of those who managed to do great things out of meager means. He tells the stories of those who deserve the opportunity to do the same. He finds common ground with his opponents, and realizes that after all is said and done, we likely have more in common than we do things to fight about. He picks up his chin, looks to the future, and moves on.
My friends, my compatriots, my fellow travelers, it has been a good fight. Now is the time to lick our wounds and move on. If we want to save this country, it will not be through some man in Washington DC telling us how we ought to do it. It will be through each and every one of us, out of our own volition and our own free will, putting in the time that before we realized the gravity of the situation we wasted with such smug self-assurance. In four years, we will all have something to say sorry for. In the mean time, let's try to clear our good names and get our families, our communities, our states, and our nation on the right track again.
To anyone I've had a cross word with over the course of this election, I'm sorry. I'll try and do better next time. I only ask that you do the same.
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:31pm |
re: #208 Sharmuta
This started happening years ago as marxists infiltrated out education system and Americans were not taught the importance of individualism, but rather that of collectivism.
Instead of asking how we got here, the question is- what are we going to do now?
Right, we need to start with the teaching colleges and the education system first, else we will never gain the ground back. We need to start building up the farm team. Again I'll ask how many lizards know the names of their state legislators? Their city and county politicians? Who are the good ones, who can you work for?
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:41:36pm |
re: #272 Ward Cleaver
Now we can get back to fun stuff, like car swarms and Yassinerations.
Someone on the last thread said there was a car swarm around a police car in front of the WH tonight. They were chanting anti Bush rants.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:08pm |
re: #229 Freedom Fan
Can we, for one night, have some respect for process, the office?
Um would you be talking about bogus Acorn voter registration ... that process?
Or perhaps Obama's fundraising machine which takes credit cards without valid names or addresses ... that process?
Or perhaps the one-sided leg-tingling rooting for Obama by the MSM ... that process?
What we are seeing here is not leftist Bushitler hysteria.
It is a reaction to some very real, decidedly dishonest and perhaps criminal patterns.
Facts are a stubborn thing, and our trepidation is quite well justified.
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Dahveed Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:08pm |
So help me, I will not watch CNN, MSNBC, CBS News, NBC News, or ABC News. I am moving to Northern Virginia next month; I will not buy a Washington Post. I have cancelled my subscription to Esquire magazine for their disgusting endorsements. The media created the conditions for the election of this radical.
I will respect Obama since he is now the president of my country, but I will work hard towards a congress in two years that is more favorable to conservatives and four years towards a president that will be more concerned with the United States rather than how the world feels about us.
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scratch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:32pm |
The dancing and screaming students outside the White House is a little disconcerting.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:49pm |
re: #277 PETN Sandwich
If I were cynical I would invest in barb-wire, concertina, slide projectors, and M-60s like they were gold... but realistically, food grains and burpee Seeds, and Mason jars.
Have you seen the price of arugula, pinto beans, and corn lately?
Safe manufacturers would be good too.
/slide projectors?
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:51pm |
re: #157 Killian Bundy
/yes we can!
Funny you should mention that. They are already back at it, Killian my friend. Rockets from Gaza into Israel and Israel launched first air strike on Gaza since June according to Drudge a little while ago.
And so it begins...
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:51pm |
re: #282 Charles
Good. There's enough asses in the world, you don't need to suffer them in your own house too.
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ghost707 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:57pm |
A man who lied repeatedly, a man who disowned all his radical associations after it became inconvenient, a man who has broken campaign finance laws like no one has ever seen in history, a man who could not even take the time to see wounded troops while in the Middle East.
That is not a President.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:42:59pm |
I can't wait for the new server to get here.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:43:00pm |
re: #246 JeremiahRight
someone send out the marching band to play "The World Turned Upside Down"
Yes but it sounds just like the Hymn of the Soviet Union.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:43:10pm |
re: #265 newsjunkie_ky
More than anything else, I hate that me-chelle will represent the Country as First Lady, which she is not.
Michelle will manage to alienate every world leader and their spouses. She is very unpleasant.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:43:24pm |
re: #298 Dahveed
I will respect Obama since he is now the president of my country, but I will work hard towards a congress in two years that is more favorable to conservatives and four years towards a president that will be more concerned with the United States rather than how the world feels about us.
You have no obligation to "respect" him.
"Accept that he is POTUS" is as far as I will go. Respect has to be EARNED, and I have seen nothing in that regard to date.
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:43:42pm |
re: #199 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and put together another unqualified ticked of hicks and weak idiots in 2012 (as I expect the Republicans to do again). You will lose. Who's the asshole in this situation? You or me?
What a fucked up mis-direct. Damn, you've fallen off the beam. Are you blaming this on me? Seriously?
Where did your fucking mind go, Killgore? I wasn't in favor of McCain to begin with, but at least I voted. You, are a pathetic, fucking, UNCOUNTED loser.
And to think I really liked you.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:43:51pm |
re: #282 Charles
I'm simply blocking the accounts of people who can't control themselves.
And Stinky and the monitors are on the job, right?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:44:14pm |
Does this mean that Ayers and Wright can come out from under the bus now?
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bhjets Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:44:38pm |
Fight on, my men," says Sir Andrew Barton,
"I am hurt, but I am not slain;
I'll lay me down and bleed a while,
And then I'll rise and fight again.
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SpartanWoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:03pm |
re: #275 Killian Bundy
/mark my words, Israel will be attacked and President Obama won't lift a finger
My kid is there and faith that he will not let millions of be destroyed is all I have left. I can live with redistribution if my people are not murdered
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jtm371 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:18pm |
Charles thanks for the forum we will lick our wounds and we will be back and fight like hell.BOOMER SOONER! later
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:21pm |
It takes a Bush & co. to get an Obama. That's all that needs to be said.
The Republican brand should be re-organized around somebody like Fred, in partnership with guys who speak as well as Rudy, and moderate, sane Dems, fiscal conservatives, and social libertarians, to form a sane check & balance against Pelosi and her ilk.
Anything else, including yelling even louder about the Red State vs. Blue State worldview, is a waste of time. "We gotta get even CRAZIER!" is a losing strategy, just ask the Dems.
Recognizing the nature of the opposition is step 1. You can't fight what you don't see, and this is what killed McCain.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:24pm |
at this moment i feel so overwhelming disappointed in my fellow citizens who voted for him. their failure to see thru him leaves me numb.
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uptight Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:25pm |
re: #259 redc1c4
there's a certain media vetting project that i'm thinking of joining, even just as an analyst... time they got the same treatment they give everyone else.
I'm going to campaign for UK conservatives and start a new blog.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:25pm |
re: #273 Scion9
I don't think Walter said he was qualified. However you highlighted a chief argument of Shelbey Steele's. Earned it or not, qualified or not, successful in the role or not, because of Affirmative Action, Barack Obama will always have the onerous mantle of being the "Affirmative Action President".
Correct. Thanks for pointing that out. I said America elected a black American to the office of president. That fact cannot be diminished because some would say he's not qualified.
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Macker Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:30pm |
re: #262 arethusa
Somehow, what really brought it home was the thought of Michelle as First Lady and Biden as V-P.
/well, at least Biden will offer some entertainment for 4 years
Joe the Biden: the Demo☭rats' Spiro Agnew?
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CommonSense Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:31pm |
re: #293 ChargerGirl
My fear is our weak congress will never criticize him for fear of being called racist so they'll do whatever he wants.
My view is totally different, race is his only good substance he is so anti-Constitution it is remarkable we are say he is President elect.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:38pm |
re: #285 Killgore Trout
Carry on, then. We'll have this conversation again in 2012. Good luck with that.
/are you going to vote then or just bitch about the state of affairs again
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mfarmer1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:53pm |
Relax folks. Look, we're all political junkies and if we're honest with ourselves we knew this fight was over when McCain won the nomination. Add the GOP version of Jimmy Carter in the White House, no real conservative leadership anywhere of note across the nation, not to mention the financial mess, and this was really the only result possible.
Obama will not be able to usher in his utopia as promised during his campaign and four years from now some of his biggest supporters will probably be his biggest critics.
Take on the next few years like an AA meeting political style. Each day you'll wake up and look around and realize that your family, home, etc., are still there and it's just another day despite who's sleeping at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
My hunch is that most here will survive and even prosper no matter what is tossed our way. Those who have counted on and put all of their hopes into an Obama presidency changing the world and healing the universe are in for a much rougher ride.
Oh, and watch out Pahk-ee-stahnn!
With that said...Good luck to President Elect Obama.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:45:57pm |
Sometimes you need a good whacking to realize where you're getting soft. Conservatives need to reflect on what they hold dear, and how much they've actually stood up for it. Have they kept spending low? Have they kept government small? Have they really pushed on the fact that people can stand on their own two feet and make their way? No, they've abandoned that, and instead leaned on Christians to vote for them because they support their religious beliefs. Have they made sure people understood why we we're at war? No, they just let the media say whatever they want to say, without responding.
This election draws a blueprint on how we can become better.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:00pm |
re: #310 Fenway_Nation
Does this mean that Ayers and Wright can come out from under the bus now?
Are you kidding? Ayers and Wright are DRIVING the bus now...
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:23pm |
re: #282 Charles
Hey Charles - small matter, perhaps, but the + and - buttons don't seem to be working at all for me - noticed on the prior thread where the disgraceful total is now -4, but only cause I kept hitting the + button and - when nothing happended after a couple of minutes refreshed the page.
As I said, a small matter but damn there are some+ I'd like to give out tonight.
Anyway, THANK YOU CHARLES for your great work out here tonight.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:28pm |
re: #264 ChargerGirl
Will there be investigations of ACORN and Hussein's fundraising?
Hell no. You don't investigate His Divine Shadow and his StormTroopers he investigates you.
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:36pm |
re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My state let you down Senator McCain.
I'm sorry I did not do more.
mine too, i tried for the first time in my life, thank you John McCain,now get back to work in the senate and do not for get what you just learned about what the people really want you can still get the job done
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:58pm |
Congratulations to President-elect Obama. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
May God bless him and keep him (and keep him away from my 401k, health plan, income, etc.).
The 2010 campaign starts tomorrow. Good night, Lizard Nation.
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CommonSense Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:46:59pm |
re: #310 Fenway_Nation
Does this mean that Ayers and Wright can come out from under the bus now?
I thought they were the drivers, in not under the bus.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:00pm |
re: #308 Noam Sayin'
It was an unelectable ticket. That's not my fault. I expect Republicans to put together another unelectable ticket next time too. They will lose and it's not my fault for pointing that out. As long as they propose unelectable candidates I won't vote for them. I'm not a Republican and I see no reason why I should.
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Parker in US Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:12pm |
re: #124 newsjunkie_ky
If the left can call President Bush, W, then I'll just call the next president, hussein.
How about:
T (Terrorist)
C (Communist)
S (Socialist)
J (Joke)
AH the list goes on and on..
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:12pm |
The President is not America - We are America and he is supposed to inspire us to follow him. But as we saw with immigration reform, many of us have minds of our own. Obama can't force us to follow him with our minds and hearts, and we are the engine of productivity.
He is like a 5 year old with a bull mastiff on a leash. Woof!
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deanayer Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:25pm |
Norm Coleman is kicking into high gear now at 750k versus 718k for stuart smalley with 67% counted - call it all ready ! geez.
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leovinus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:40pm |
Again I say:
So long and thanks for all the ACORNs.
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onlinegangsta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:40pm |
So does this mean that Heidi Klum and Seal have decided NOT to move out of the USA ?
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:59pm |
Well - a great barrier in American politics has been knocked down tonight, and we should all rejoice.
Race? Naaa. There are plenty of African American mayors, governors and other elected leaders and now president elect.
No - the big barrier is that of electing a president with no executive experience whatsoever. No command time in the military. No time spent running a business. No time running a town or a state or even an agency of a government. None.
Now that is a big barrier, and now vast numbers of Americans can aspire to high office, even ones who have had drug habits and have hung out with terrorists and criminals.
Yes they can!
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Palandine Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:47:59pm |
re: #278 SummerSong
My unprofessional opinion? Never cut back on your retirement contributions.
Y'all are right. I just think back to the Dems talking last week about taking away the tax breaks for 401(k)s, and I go all Ellis Wyatt (since we're making lots of Ayn Rand references tonight) or like the owner of the Miami Dolphins and say I'd rather give it to charity than give it to him.
I guess there'll be plenty of time to panic if the Dems really do try to destroy private retirement accounts.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:01pm |
re: #315 Pawn of the Oppressor
It takes a Bush & co. to get an Obama. That's all that needs to be said.
The Republican brand should be re-organized around somebody like Fred, in partnership with guys who speak as well as Rudy, and moderate, sane Dems, fiscal conservatives, and social libertarians, to form a sane check & balance against Pelosi and her ilk.
Anything else, including yelling even louder about the Red State vs. Blue State worldview, is a waste of time. "We gotta get even CRAZIER!" is a losing strategy, just ask the Dems.
Recognizing the nature of the opposition is step 1. You can't fight what you don't see, and this is what killed McCain.
Still, it was not a landslide.
That it was not is a sign of hope. Even with all that went on, there is still a critical mass of people who are not stupid.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:02pm |
re: #298 Dahveed
So help me, I will not watch CNN, MSNBC, CBS News, NBC News, or ABC News. I am moving to Northern Virginia next month; I will not buy a Washington Post. I have cancelled my subscription to Esquire magazine for their disgusting endorsements. The media created the conditions for the election of this radical.
I will respect Obama since he is now the president of my country, but I will work hard towards a congress in two years that is more favorable to conservatives and four years towards a president that will be more concerned with the United States rather than how the world feels about us.
Wall Street Journal, Washington Times,
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Infidel_One Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:02pm |
In case things get bad
http://www.udi.no/templates/Tema.aspx?id=4481
Refugees and asylum
Persons that are prosecuted in their home country may apply for asylum in Norway.
Norway grants protection to persons who have good reason to fear persecution based on religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group, based on the UN Refugee Convention and Norwegian law. The Immigration Authorities has a special focus on the rights of women and children.
The asylum seekers have a responsibility to give a detailed account of the basis for seeking asylum.
While the asylum seekers are waiting for their cases to be processed,
they are offered a place in a reception centre. The centres are
located all over the country, and run by local municipalities, non-governmental organisations and private companies contracted by the UDI.
Here you may find more information on rules and current practise.
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:11pm |
re: #327 Dotcoman
Hell no. You don't investigate His Divine Shadow and his StormTroopers he investigates you.
In Soviet Russia, voting frauds you!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:26pm |
re: #321 Killian Bundy
are you going to vote then or just bitch about the state of affairs again
I'm just going to bitch. I would have voted for Obama but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:54pm |
Will the liberal throngs get the rioting and looting already? I need something to cheer me up. Wow, Franken and Coleman all tied up with 64% reporting.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:56pm |
I do not feel anything but dread. The Israelis face Armeggedon and or America the barbarians are in the gates. I fear the baying mob. I fear Fruit of Islam thugs and roving gangs of "youths."
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loup-garou Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:48:59pm |
did you catch that line. spirit of sacrifice and in that Grant Park really did remind me of Nurnberg... all them folks crying and holding there hand together.
this kind of populist rhetoric spooks me.
where is our Cato ?
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:00pm |
re: #51 Salem
"Our union can be perfected"
Perfected? Who will decide when it's perfect? This guy is a bit lacking in humility.
It's Socialism in action, thinking that man can be perfected. His tutors have taught him well.
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wiffersnapper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:03pm |
I think I need to go the Free Clinic: I just got screwed!
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:09pm |
So, any views on the status of Republican party unity? Personally, I've had serious doubts since the Schiavo controversy.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:09pm |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
It was an unelectable ticket. That's not my fault. I expect Republicans to put together another unelectable ticket next time too. They will lose and it's not my fault for pointing that out. As long as they propose unelectable candidates I won't vote for them. I'm not a Republican and I see no reason why I should.
Fair enough. But you have forfeited your right to bitch about Obama's failures in 6 months.
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spirochete Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:11pm |
re: #342 Infidel_One
In case things get bad
http://www.udi.no/templates/Tema.aspx?id =4481
Refugees and asylum
Persons that are prosecuted in their home country may apply for asylum in Norway.Norway grants protection to persons who have good reason to fear persecution based on religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group, based on the UN Refugee Convention and Norwegian law. The Immigration Authorities has a special focus on the rights of women and children.
The asylum seekers have a responsibility to give a detailed account of the basis for seeking asylum.
While the asylum seekers are waiting for their cases to be processed,
they are offered a place in a reception centre. The centres are
located all over the country, and run by local municipalities, non-governmental organisations and private companies contracted by the UDI.Here you may find more information on rules and current practise.
Ugh. Norway.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:18pm |
re: #333 DistantThunder
He is like a 5 year old with a bull mastiff on a leash. Woof!
OK- that's the first laugh I've had in hours. Thanks.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:34pm |
re: #308 Noam Sayin'
Hey Noam - woulda dinged you up if my dinger was working! LOL!
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polite Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:45pm |
Did I miss it or did Obama actually omit 9-11 from his speach?
(especially when counting all that the 106-years-old lady lived through)
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:49:47pm |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
It was an unelectable ticket. T
No, it was an electable ticket, if the MSM were not in the tank.
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:19pm |
re: #316 nyc redneck
at this moment i feel so overwhelming disappointed in my fellow citizens who voted for him. their failure to see thru him leaves me numb.
Me too. I've had it out with moonbat daughter and son-in-law here in KY. Mom's purse is closed. Let the zero provide their groceries and gas money.
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Idle Drifter Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:20pm |
re: #261 xshaisu
Holy crap!
Israel launches first airstrike on Gaza since June...
20 rockets fired from Gaza to Israel...
The Palestinians getting a little ahead of themselves.
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anotherindyfilmguy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:20pm |
Just remember that no matter how much life sucks, there is always hope while you're still living...
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:26pm |
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SavannahWinslow Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:28pm |
Personally, I still have a glimmer of hope. Ayatollah Obama is going to find it hard to accomplish much from behind prison bars.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:45pm |
re: #323 cliffster
Sometimes you need a good whacking to realize where you're getting soft. Conservatives need to reflect on what they hold dear, and how much they've actually stood up for it. Have they kept spending low? Have they kept government small? Have they really pushed on the fact that people can stand on their own two feet and make their way? No, they've abandoned that, and instead leaned on Christians to vote for them because they support their religious beliefs. Have they made sure people understood why we we're at war? No, they just let the media say whatever they want to say, without responding.
This election draws a blueprint on how we can become better.
The GOP had a shot in '94 with the Contract With America, then spent the next 12 years pissing it away, by getting hooked on power.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:55pm |
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:50:56pm |
re: #85 HelloDare
Israel attacks Iran in February with the aid of the U.S. The left goes nuts. Biden says, "Don't say I didn't warn you."
Stuff has a tendency to happen - B0 will also have to learn that no matetr how powerful he is, other states will follow their own scripts.
Fasten your seatbelts, it will get bumpier ...
And I'm sorry Lizards about this result. at least you fought valiantly.
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littlegreenlizard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:51:15pm |
ok, don't crucify me, but i wanted to share this:
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:51:15pm |
re: #351 Racer X
Thankfully you aren't in charge of free speech in this country. I'll bitch as much as I please.
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JacksonTn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:51:25pm |
I came to this blog as a last resort .. I was without a party .. I was deceived by Harold Dean and Donna Brazile ... I know that it was pretty obvious that when i said it was my sister that was a PUMA many probably believed it was me ...but I did not think anyone here would accept me here as a yellow dog democrat by tradition... my family have always been democrats... three generations yellow dog ... don't question our love for America .. my father was an original SEAL who was democrat till he died ...but today ... I don't know where I am ...I am an American .. I know that to be true... I will fight on no matter who is in the White House ... I will post what I have posted at every democrat blog I can find ... I am without a party but I do have a country... my only fear is that Sharia law is approaching .. it is coming ... when will we say enough... I am a woman who does not want the daughters of my son to hide behind a burka ... does this seem extreme ... I think not ...
My post at every democrat blog I could find ...
I first saw Bill Clinton in 1990 he was on Road to White House … I said damn that is a guy I could get behind. I supported the Clintons ever since. Today I say
FUCK YOU CLINTONS
Only one speech would have done Obama in but no you had to get your 12 million paid.
You could have said Obama is anti-American but you did not. I say you sold out America.
I will never support you now Hillary. I loved you. I loved Bill. You have now said it is okay to say Bros B4 Hos. I am sorry but to me you are no longer relevant.
I am an WOMAN first. You have condoned the treatment of women and I say to you NO MORE.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:51:25pm |
re: #354 realwest
Hey Noam - woulda dinged you up if my dinger was working! LOL!
Mine's been working for just over four hours now. I may have to call my doctor.
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:51:36pm |
re: #355 polite
Did I miss it or did Obama actually omit 9-11 from his speach?
(especially when counting all that the 106-years-old lady lived through)
You expected him to say something about 9/11?
His speech was not going to be about policy-- it was going to be about the earth being healed, waters receeding, etc etc etc
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:51:58pm |
re: #301 Dotcoman
Funny you should mention that. They are already back at it, Killian my friend. Rockets from Gaza into Israel and Israel launched first air strike on Gaza since June according to Drudge a little while ago.
And so it begins...
/celebratory mortar fire
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blackpajamas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:05pm |
Dear Barack Obama, your victory inspired me to start a new business!
It's an ocean cruise for disenchanted conservatives -- ah what the heck, we'll let the Randroids come aboad too (but only in pairs) -- that lasts from up to four to eight years, exposes the clients to the crisp cool tax-free international waters (from which they can run their businesses), gives them an alternative to the over-hyped "Ah, I'll just head to Canada/Mexico" option, and keeps them safely off the mainland until the Great Re-distributing has passed.
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:13pm |
re: #335 deanayer
Norm Coleman is kicking into high gear now at 750k versus 718k for stuart smalley with 67% counted - call it all ready ! geez.
One of the networks, forget which one, I think FOX, did call it for Coleman, but then I turned the TV off after Obama's speech.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:21pm |
maybe this means the internet is dead
the MSM was not to be denied their messiah
and the power of the internet could not stop it
now I have to seriously ask you "believers"
do you still believe there is a god ?
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astronmr20 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:27pm |
re: #368 Killgore Trout
Thankfully you aren't in charge of free speech in this country. I'll bitch as much as I please.
..but we can still give you shit every time you bitch, since you didn't vote.
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Sihlus Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:31pm |
re: #294 mister fixer
Well said. With your permission, I'm going to share this with my e-mail friends.
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:41pm |
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:41pm |
So...just to be clear,
The elephants stuck the collective trunk up the back-side with their spending like drunk sailors in 2004-2005, and we did not hammer them, we lost control of congress in 2006?
Now you lizards wonder where the "DAY" went? Give me peace, I throw the flames and have pissed some of you off ...excuse me I am hearing a couple of gay guys on T V talking about how the government will protect their rights in CAL... so now the bitch fest begins? Sorry Charles ...YOU MUST BE F**KING KIDDING ME!
COMe on
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:42pm |
Wow, the last thread title right now says "President Barack Obama (666)".
Cue scary music.
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twincitiesgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:47pm |
re: #349 wiffersnapper
I think I need to go the Free Clinic: I just got screwed!
Thank God--someone still has a sense of humor.
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neocon hippie Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:51pm |
re: #308 Noam Sayin'
Maybe something he picked up in the food or water in Madagascar. KT been quite cantankerous since he returned from that trip.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:52:53pm |
re: #333 DistantThunder
The President is not America - We are America and he is supposed to inspire us to follow him. But as we saw with immigration reform, many of us have minds of our own. Obama can't force us to follow him with our minds and hearts, and we are the engine of productivity.
He is like a 5 year old with a bull mastiff on a leash. Woof!
Great image. I have a Bullmastiff, and a 2 1/2 yo granddaughter who insists on taking his leash. (we only allow this on the front lawn). It is pretty comical.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:53:09pm |
re: #356 ErislDysnomia
No, it was an electable ticket, if the MSM were not in the tank.
What happened to the conservative principle of personal responsibility? McCain could have gotten his message out on his own, why should the MSM be required to do it for him?
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:53:11pm |
The fact is that in pictures, he plays a pretty good President on TV. Look honestly at the photo on Drudge... He looks good up there. And it is kinda cool we elected a brown guy. I wish it wasn't him, but at least that last barrier is technically broken.
I wish him the best and my HOPE for CHANGE is that this whole "moderate" thing he's been playing at for the past three months is the game he's going to stick to. That's the best we can expect, IMO.
OK folks... Your man is up there... Eight years of pissing and moaning, let's see you do better. Go for it.
(But while you're at it, stay the fuck away from my firearms.)
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dmjung Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:53:28pm |
re: #102 Sharmuta
I asked it on the last thread, and I'm going to ask it again and elaborate-
What are you going to do to correct this ideological trend?
Don't answer me- answer yourself. What are you going to do?
I've actually been thinking about that and perhaps using a page out of the left's handbook...maybe a teaching gig when I retire from IT. It may take 40+ years to get a conservative stranglehold on upper education, but it has to start somewhere.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:53:41pm |
re: #357 newsjunkie_ky
Hi {newsjunkie_ky}
I've had it out with moonbat daughter and son-in-law here in KY. Mom's purse is closed. Let the zero provide their groceries and gas money.
Absolutely spot on (assuming, of cours that your moonbat relatives are of legal age!).
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Canoe Train Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:53:45pm |
The narrow minded leftists have won. I am dismayed for much of our nation, and deeply disappointed. Hopefully we can demonstrate their hypocrisy for all to see.
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:53:46pm |
Look, I want to ask all fellow lizards one thing...
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, do you want to sink to the level of the moonbats and engage in the same idiotic rhetoric they used for the past eight years, or do you all want to raise the bar of the discussion? Do you want to sink down to their level and engage in ad hominen attacks on the ruling Dems, or do you want to attack their ideas, policies and actions. In short, is it in you to act better than them?
I know it is for many of you. There are scores of you who know how to attack the message, not the messenger. To be downcast and depressed at this hour is understandable, but it must quickly pass. We cannot afford to wallow in self-pity. Too much is at stake.
But, if this new government is to govern, we must reserve our comments and see which direction they do, in fact, go. To say anything before they have taken any action is to display bitterness and show us to be little more than sore losers.
Let's fight for 2010!
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PETN Sandwich Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:02pm |
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CommonSense Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:03pm |
re: #371 astronmr20
You expected him to say something about 9/11?
His speech was not going to be about policy-- it was going to be about the earth being healed, waters receeding, etc etc etc
Is it just me or did others feel a tug on their wallets?
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:14pm |
re: #368 Killgore Trout
Thankfully you aren't in charge of free speech in this country. I'll bitch as much as I please.
I can't wait.
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:30pm |
He starts with a clear slate, let's see if he can rise to the occasion.
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:31pm |
re: #282 Charles
I'm simply blocking the accounts of people who can't control themselves.
I'm glad to see that.
Even though most of us are as upset as we can be, that is no reason to go apeshit. This is Charles' house. He gets to set the tone, which he clearly has done all evening & has continued to do very well since I registered in 2004.
Thanks again, Charles.
Now let's set our sights on getting the Republicans in the Senate to man up by fighting every piece of unconstitutional & outright wrong piece of legislation to come down the pike by involing the fillibuster. They need to stop being accomodating to people like Chucky Schumer, Chris Dodd, and the rest of those clowns.
And let's work toward a huge housecleaning in Congress in 2010. As far as I'm concerned, that starts immediately next week.
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:39pm |
re: #325 SaneInMN
Norm Coleman up by 19,000 votes with 78% in.
Well, there is a ray of sunshine. They won't have a filibuster-proof Senate.
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solomonpanting Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:40pm |
re: #306 doppelganglander
Michelle will manage to alienate every world leader and their spouses. She is very unpleasant.
And here I thought you were going to say something really bad about her.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:42pm |
re: #350 Salem
So, any views on the status of Republican party unity? Personally, I've had serious doubts since the Schiavo controversy.
I'm pissed at the Bible-thumpers who opposed Romney, and I'm pissed at the snooty elites who didn't think Sarah was good enough for them. The Democrats are basically Marxists, and the Libertarians are a bunch of self-righteous idiots. If anyone would like to start a party for sensible, non-bigoted, non-elitist conservatives, give me a call.
Fun note: as of this minute, the President BO thread has 666 posts.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:44pm |
re: #370 Racer X
LOL! To hell with calling a doctor - hie thee to a house of ill-repute and take advantage of your, ah, condition!
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:51pm |
re: #370 Racer X
Why the nic Racer X? (I have a reason for asking)
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:54:56pm |
re: #395 CommonSense
Is it just me or did others feel a tug on their wallets?
Hey, where's my wallet?
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JohnAdams Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:01pm |
Can we have at least the loss of Frankenstein in Minnesota? Please?
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Adrenalyn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:07pm |
re: #382 Ward Cleaver
Wow, the last thread title right now says "President Barack Obama (666)".
Cue scary music.
Careful Ward
I asked for scary music last night
and almost got banned for it
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:08pm |
re: #396 Racer X
Why wait, I'm doing it now. I'll do it in the future too.
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yenta-fada Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:29pm |
re: #283 doppelganglander
LOL! I honestly don't think he has the first clue what the job really entails. He's never done any of his other elected duties before. He is going to be shocked at the amount of work involved. And since he's never made a real decision in his life, I expect a certain amount of paralysis.
That's a scary thought. I means that MICHELLE will be running the country, since she's the one with cajones. Hussein will continue to live in his delusional state, joined by moonbats and power mongers like Soros.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:31pm |
re: #400 calcajun
Well, there is a ray of sunshine. They won't have a filibuster-proof Senate.
Nope.
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:35pm |
re: #369 JacksonTn
The Illinois senator harvested more campaign cash than anyone before him, using both the Internet and traditional high-roller dinners to bring in more than $650 million from some 3 million donors for his presidential campaign. The 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, John Kerry, raised less than half that amount, as did George W. Bush and Al Gore combined in 2000.
Obama's fundraising revolutionized the way presidential campaigns are financed and may kill the Watergate-era system of providing public money for the general election. His cash advantage helped him defeat New York Senator Hillary Clinton, who began the campaign as the presumptive Democratic nominee. Obama then swamped Republican candidate John McCain in the last two months.
Watergate-era system?
or online terrorists pumping in the cash?
McCain had 100 million- go figure.
does Bambi keep the rest?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:39pm |
re: #199 Killgore Trout
Go ahead and put together another unqualified ticked of hicks and weak idiots in 2012 (as I expect the Republicans to do again). You will lose. Who's the asshole in this situation? You or me?
Fuck you. Go post at Kos, they'll love you there. You're the asshole. Have the guts to vote, you worthless POS, or shut your damn mouth, loser.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:55:46pm |
re: #358 Idle Drifter
The Palestinians getting a little ahead of themselves.
They passed out candy first, YouTube will have the video soon.
/if you don't think filmed celebration occurred in Gaza during the last hour, well, I can't help you
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SpartanWoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:00pm |
re: #391 realwest
Hi {newsjunkie_ky}
Absolutely spot on (assuming, of cours that your moonbat relatives are of legal age!).
I told all the universities "no way" for their annual appeals, let the O take care of them.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:03pm |
re: #347 loup-garou
did you catch that line. spirit of sacrifice and in that Grant Park really did remind me of Nurnberg... all them folks crying and holding there hand together.
this kind of populist rhetoric spooks me.where is our Cato ?
they are so full of love for him and so expectant that his powers will heal their souls. (as michelle has told them he can). to see them beam and smile and tear up as he speaks.
they are losers in a cult.
creepy.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:05pm |
re: #372 RTLM
Uh, that's John Fucking Murtha, Ex-Marine - and his voters deserve him; we, however, do not!
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Timbre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:19pm |
Today's Obama,
He gets by on you,
And your rights he invades
He puts one by you.
Yes, his mind is up for rent
To any Marxist government.
Always hopeful, yet discontent,
He knows changes aren't permanent,
But change is.
(with apologies to Neil Peart and Pye Dubois)
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:21pm |
re: #335 deanayer
Norm Coleman is kicking into high gear now at 750k versus 718k for stuart smalley with 67% counted - call it all ready ! geez.
I thought it was already called for Norm!
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:36pm |
Look, we can't deny Obama won, and handily. We can, however work to make sure he is never elected again. Even though he won this time, he didn't beat McCain. He beat George Bush. Bush will be no where near in 2012. Also in 2010 a new election comes up for Congress. Just keep the faith.
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prototype Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:56:57pm |
I did what I could for McCain/Palin. Made phone calls, talked my sisters, nieces/nephews and neighbors into voting for him. Placed many yard signs. I carried 5 McCain votes to the polls today. my wife and I, the lady who lives next door, and an elderly couple down the street. I waited in the voting line twice, once pushing my elderly neighbor in a wheelchair, then again to place my own vote. But Obama won. I didn't like how he won, with the potential illegal contributions, the misleading ads, etc., but he won. I will not be a sore loser. Country first now, I congratulate Obama and will support him until he gives me a reason not to. I know this probably isn't a very popular opinion in here tonight (it wasn't in the lounge, which is buzzing tonight btw), but there it is. We all need to be even more vocal in our support for conservative principles going forward, but I'll support our new President until he gives me a reason not to.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:00pm |
re: #401 solomonpanting
And here I thought you were going to say something really bad about her.
I'm trying to stay factual as to avoid the banning stick. I'm really pissed off, but I like it here and I'd like to stay.
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healem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:04pm |
re: #294 mister fixer
I know where we went wrong. We started looking at the American Dream as the American guarantee.
Well said.
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maddogg Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:05pm |
I predict a brand new candidate for worst President in history.
I hope Palin is thinking about 2012.
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Idle Drifter Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:08pm |
re: #365 ErislDysnomia
Oh, crap.
VERY VERY BAD SIGN.
Time to buy that copy of the United States Constitution. The Senate looks like it won't be filibuster proof. The Republican Senators better start practicing their masonry for all the stonewalling they'll have to do to prevent a total fiscal melt down.
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onlinegangsta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:08pm |
So if Franken wins will the " Daily Affirmation With Stuart Smalley" be added to the MN constitution?
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:09pm |
re: #333 DistantThunder
The President is not America - We are America and he is supposed to inspire us to follow him. But as we saw with immigration reform, many of us have minds of our own. Obama can't force us to follow him with our minds and hearts, and we are the engine of productivity.
He is like a 5 year old with a bull mastiff on a leash. Woofhahahah see now this is why i love reading LGF! ahhh
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:13pm |
re: #340 ErislDysnomia
Still, it was not a landslide.
That it was not is a sign of hope. Even with all that went on, there is still a critical mass of people who are not stupid.
Empirically, the critical mass is stupid.
Stupid. . .or stupidly idealistic.
On the other hand, there is no possible way Obama could fail to live up to my expectations of him, so maybe there is room for a pleasant surprise here.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:17pm |
re: #337 onlinegangsta
So does this mean that Heidi Klum and Seal have decided NOT to move out of the USA ?
It just keeps getting worse.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:19pm |
Don't fault McCain or Palin. Mistakes were made, but the media played on Obama's team in an embarrassing fashion.
Interesting thing listening to John and Ken on KFI here in SoCal (they have been pounding McCain / Palin) - They started pounding on Obama and his "tax cut" and started asking "what is he going to do? what are his actual plans other than 'hope and change'?"
Point is the MSM will turn on him in an attempt to salvage their own credibility.
They are proving to be scumbags.
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:30pm |
re: #416 realwest
Uh, that's John Fucking Murtha, Ex-Marine - and his voters deserve him; we, however, do not!
POS
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:32pm |
Does Rezco have any reason to roll on Hussein?
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arethusa Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:33pm |
re: #406 JohnAdams
Can we have at least the loss of Frankenstein in Minnesota? Please?
Coleman is up by 45000 with 71% reporting.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:34pm |
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:48pm |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
What happened to the conservative principle of personal responsibility? McCain could have gotten his message out on his own, why should the MSM be required to do it for him?
oh shut the fuck up.
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PETN Sandwich Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:50pm |
re: #348 Ward Cleaver
It's Socialism in action, thinking that man can be perfected. His tutors have taught him well.
Someone should have introduced Obama to The Republic, Plato's.
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kuchuklambat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:52pm |
re: #315 Pawn of the Oppressor
Indeed, Pawn, although it's not just a bad Republican brand, it's 40 or so years of infiltration and destruction of our education and media by our enemies (some with a rank in KGB, some not) that paved the way.
So, what will the Obama administration do in its first hundred days? I am not a subscriber in the "dog catches car, knows not what to do now" or in the "he'll get hit with crises and get wiser, support him when he does good" assessments. I think his outfit has sophisticated plans and will be making things happen rather than reacting to them. And the O party is definitely someone Putin and Saud can make deals with.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:57pm |
re: #396 Racer X
Stalker 10- you know I luv ya. I luv Killgore too, even though he's pissed me off a couple times the last few weeks. So I have to say- he's not the enemy. Let's focus on the real problem, because as much as Killgore might be pissing you off- he has a point. We as republicans have a problem. Beating up Killgore is not going to solve it.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:57:59pm |
One thing I have to say right at this moment. If you can't respect the man, at least respect the office he holds.
/I am saluting a higher ranking officer, not a superior officer
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:05pm |
re: #357 newsjunkie_ky
Me too. I've had it out with moonbat daughter and son-in-law here in KY. Mom's purse is closed. Let the zero provide their groceries and gas money.
Right on - let them wait in the miserable lines, in the miserable offices, dealing with miserable bureaucrats, who present them with miserable options.
From the democrat party that brought you:
Jim Crow Laws
Welfare that destroyed the Black Family
Appeasement of terrorists
We now have a promise of an Obama "paradise" much like Detroit.
Brought to you by a lawyer.
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apb1 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:30pm |
re: #417 Timbre
All of a sudden, 'The Trees' seems a lot more relevant!
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:48pm |
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IMissReagan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:56pm |
Well, everyone who voted for The One will soon discover he is a Zero.
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Buster Bunny Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:57pm |
re: #326 realwest
Hey Charles - small matter, perhaps, but the + and - buttons don't seem to be working at all for me - noticed on the prior thread where the disgraceful total is now -4, but only cause I kept hitting the + button and - when nothing happended after a couple of minutes refreshed the page.
As I said, a small matter but damn there are some+ I'd like to give out tonight.
Anyway, THANK YOU CHARLES for your great work out here tonight.
Realwest .. I dont think voting matters anymore .. its an outdated scheme for doing things.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:58:59pm |
re: #305 CIA Reject
Yes but it sounds just like the Hymn of the Soviet Union.
Better that than the Kenyan Muslim Luo Tribes cannibal come to dinner drum song.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:59:01pm |
Sorry to bust your bubble, but even if we keep our puny Senate seats, there are enough "rinos" to vote with the dhimmis.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:59:02pm |
re: #357 newsjunkie_ky
Me too. I've had it out with moonbat daughter and son-in-law here in KY. Mom's purse is closed. Let the zero provide their groceries and gas money.
i thought that s.i.l. got him some gainful employment?
i do think you should keep your pocketbook snapped shut.
otherwise what is the incentive for him to get moving.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:59:06pm |
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Dustyvet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:59:18pm |
re: #134 SaneInMN
Shit! Franken up by 105 votes with 64% in.
U.S. Senate-Minnesota
Total Reporting:82%
Name Votes Pct.
Norm Coleman (R) 957,475 42%
Al Franken (DFL) 951,125 42%
Dean Barkley (IP) 348,991 15%
Charles Aldrich (L) 11,001 0%
James Niemackl (C) 7,041 0%
LAST UPDATE: Nov-04-2008, 11:57 PM Central Standard Time
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Achilles Tang Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:59:20pm |
It was a good speech, and it is reality. Can anyone imagine what kind of results this would have been if there had been no "Rev" Wright and no Ayers and similar?
We can only hope that what he means by change applies to himself as much as anything else, and as much as that may suggest a negative connotation, it could be a positive one, and as an American, I now support our next President.
Let's move to the next stage, and be vigilant as always.
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Nov 4, 2008 9:59:35pm |
I'm so freakin' sick of these universal healthcare commercials on FOX
ARRRgh
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Steffan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:00:03pm |
Well, the best we can do for now is watch to see what happens. I'd suggest lots of popcorn.
If worse comes to worst, 2010 could well end up being another 1994.
Two predictions: Firearms and ammunition sales will go through the roof. Second, the stock market is going to do some serious dropping, depending on the congressional results -- if the Dems have a filibuster-proof majority, I think you can count on it. Now might be the time to invest in a coffee can buried in the backyard.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:00:18pm |
My fear is our weak congress will never criticize him for fear of being called racist so they'll do whatever he wants.
-ChargerGirl
Who is going to restrain whom? Nobody left now but Marxists. (I turned my fear into a boatload of gold ETFs today.)
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ChargerGirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:00:24pm |
America needs a huge jar of Vaseline because we just got royally screwed.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:00:49pm |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
What happened to the conservative principle of personal responsibility? McCain could have gotten his message out on his own, why should the MSM be required to do it for him?
It wasn't simply that the MSM didn't get out his message (although it didn't), its that they aided and abetted Obama in multiple ways, by not properly vetting Obama, by supporting his BS, and by constantly attacking McCain.
Ultimately the blame falls on McCain, but he had a steep uphill fight.
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RememberSekhmet? Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:11pm |
Killgore,
Seriously, GFY. We here actually, unlike you, got up off our butts and voted while you wallowed in your stale Cheetos crumbs. We have paid for our right to bitch about the results of the election by the simple act of showing up at our precincts and voting. You didn't, but want to lord it all over us.
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Expat Canuck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:12pm |
One of the biggest losses these last few years, especially during this campaign, is a truly free press. The fourth estate acted like the fifth column -- that is a huge concern. Thank you, Charles, for your efforts in bringing the truth to light and giving a voice to the average Joe.
Let's keep our heads and not act like moonbats.
Let's roll.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:21pm |
re: #282 Charles
I'm simply blocking the accounts of people who can't control themselves.
I am disappointed at the hysterical, even apocalyptic, tone of some of the posts here. We heard this kind of wailing and gnashing of teeth from moonbats when their guys lost in '00 and '04. Are we not stronger than a bunch of media-slave lefties? I am. Tomorrow, I will be back here doing what I always do, taking the fight to the enemy with the tools I have.
I do not deny that this is a disaster; but if history tells us anything, it is that strong and rational people can cope with disaster, and overcome it.
The 1976 election was a disaster.
The fall of Saigon was a disaster.
Pearl Harbor was a disaster.
Bull Run was a disaster.
Is a pattern beginning to emerge here? Get a grip indeed.
The media-left has won the power it has craved for decades. We are no longer in the position of defending established power. In many ways, this will be an advantage, especially when the established power was an albatross like Bush.
The mystique of the rebel will work against its inventors now. I predict they will fall flat on their faces.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:23pm |
re: #439 Sharmuta
Stalker 10- you know I luv ya. I luv Killgore too, even though he's pissed me off a couple times the last few weeks. So I have to say- he's not the enemy. Let's focus on the real problem, because as much as Killgore might be pissing you off- he has a point. We as republicans have a problem. Beating up Killgore is not going to solve it.
Beating up KT? Not even.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:25pm |
re: #339 Palandine
Y'all are right. I just think back to the Dems talking last week about taking away the tax breaks for 401(k)s, and I go all Ellis Wyatt (since we're making lots of Ayn Rand references tonight) or like the owner of the Miami Dolphins and say I'd rather give it to charity than give it to him.
I guess there'll be plenty of time to panic if the Dems really do try to destroy private retirement accounts.
You have the advantage of a long time frame, Palandine. Everything else comes and goes. I've been cut in half, financially, twice. It was still to my advantage to invest in myself. Keep your eye on the prize, Palandine. It is doable.
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Scion9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:39pm |
re: #315 Pawn of the Oppressor
Anything else, including yelling even louder about the Red State vs. Blue State worldview, is a waste of time. "We gotta get even CRAZIER!" is a losing strategy, just ask the Dems.
Yes indeed. The Republicans have consistently adopted the terms that the Democrats have coined and fought on battleground not of their choosing. A lot of Republican campaigns sound like the same exact kind of class warfare rhetoric that the Dems us. Mike Huckabee was the worse among the GOP by far for that kind of stuff, but I heard some of it from McCain and Palin as well.
'Country First' is nice but it is still an appeal to a group identity. At this point it really needs to be 'Liberty First'. An appeal as to what it is to be an American. A return to Classical Liberal principles is what is needed. Republicans are officially no longer on the same side of the spectrum with Democrats.
The conservative, and moderate Democrats are essentially finished. They are the party of Collectivism and Socialism. The mask is off for anyone who has the desire to see it. Unfortunately the Republicans are not currently the party of Individualism and Liberalism to oppose it.
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nigella Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:50pm |
Sorry if I dinged down someone who said we should respect the office... Who among the Democrats respected the office while Bush was in office?... I rest my case!
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:01:52pm |
re: #391 realwest
Hi {newsjunkie_ky}
Absolutely spot on (assuming, of cours that your moonbat relatives are of legal age!).
Hey realwest,
Yep, daughter turns 30 in a week. I've bought their groceries for 3 years and I'm now through. I'll be able to put about $600 under my mattress every month. I'm through. This Republican has helped them all she is going to. They want president elect government then let him take care of them.
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nyc redneck Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:23pm |
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redc1c4 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:26pm |
re: #186 Palandine
Throwing out a financial question:
I'm at least 30 years from retiring. I currently put 6% into my TSP, which is like a 401(k). I don't have any debt, but I don't have a big cash cushion either. Any smart lizards think I should cut back on my retirement savigs until I have a cushion of liquid cash for expenses, or should I keep making the contributions and save up spare cash in dribs and drabs? Advice, please.
talk to your advisor, but since the Dems have floated the idea of eliminating the 401K and replacing it with a mandatory govt program where you get a bond that pays a whopping 3%, putting more in the fund might just be throwing money to the feds to redistribute...
i'll dig for the story link. here it is!
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RightMinded Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:26pm |
Coleman only up by a bit under 6,000 now with 82% reporting.
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:41pm |
re: #376 Adrenalyn
maybe this means the internet is dead
the MSM was not to be denied their messiah
and the power of the internet could not stop itnow I have to seriously ask you "believers"
do you still believe there is a god ?
even more
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unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:42pm |
re: #444 IMissReagan
Well, everyone who voted for The One will soon discover he is a Zero.
I pray the O voters never come to the realization, for if/when they do, our troubles will be so great, we'll be so far gone, only Reagan will be able to save us.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:02:57pm |
re: #376 Adrenalyn
maybe this means the internet is dead
the MSM was not to be denied their messiah
and the power of the internet could not stop itnow I have to seriously ask you "believers"
do you still believe there is a god ?
YES
Tonight was a victory for Evil, and Evil exists so that good people may FIGHT IT and eventually DEFEAT IT
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Wishing Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:03:17pm |
re: #368 Killgore Trout
Thankfully you aren't in charge of free speech in this country. I'll bitch as much as I please.
Everything you type is vile.
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sagamoregal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:03:19pm |
Positive points to remember this evening:
-Only 2 1/2 more months of a dead duck, lame duck prez who will let Condi go all Pali and sell out Israel even more in the waning weeks.
- No more PUMA's (no wonder Hillary lost) and no more Clintons. A nail in the coffin of the Clinton era. We will ensure that Sarah crushes Hillary in 2012 or 2016.
- No more Karl Rove and Frank Lunz.
- Sarah Palin. As long as she surrounds herself with non-neighbors and friends from high school and she stays away from snake handlers in her Wasilla church, she can build up her creds and impress more than just the right-wing part of the party. Love you Sarah. Will miss you. Will miss Piper more.
-John and Lindsay can continue their Abbot & Costello routine in the Senate.
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Tigger2005 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:03:25pm |
I can't support him. We know who this guy really is. I saw through him immediately. He's not going to change, and he's not going to make a single right decision. He's going to be pushing his radical anti-personal responsibility, anti-capitalist, anti-freedom, thuggish Chicago political agenda and his policies of appeasement from day one. There's no use trying to put shiny happy face on this.
As I said, the next four years are probably going to be the most critical America has ever faced. I believe our long-term survival will depend on the President making enough right decisions during this four year period. I have no confidence Obama will make a single right decision, not one. What has he done to give us any reason to believe he might?
re: #421 prototype
I did what I could for McCain/Palin. Made phone calls, talked my sisters, nieces/nephews and neighbors into voting for him. Placed many yard signs. I carried 5 McCain votes to the polls today. my wife and I, the lady who lives next door, and an elderly couple down the street. I waited in the voting line twice, once pushing my elderly neighbor in a wheelchair, then again to place my own vote. But Obama won. I didn't like how he won, with the potential illegal contributions, the misleading ads, etc., but he won. I will not be a sore loser. Country first now, I congratulate Obama and will support him until he gives me a reason not to. I know this probably isn't a very popular opinion in here tonight (it wasn't in the lounge, which is buzzing tonight btw), but there it is. We all need to be even more vocal in our support for conservative principles going forward, but I'll support our new President until he gives me a reason not to.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:03:52pm |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
It was an unelectable ticket. That's not my fault. I expect Republicans to put together another unelectable ticket next time too. They will lose and it's not my fault for pointing that out. As long as they propose unelectable candidates I won't vote for them. I'm not a Republican and I see no reason why I should.
This is tautological.
Sure, so long as you don't vote for it, the ticket is unelectable.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:12pm |
re: #376 Adrenalyn
maybe this means the internet is dead
the MSM was not to be denied their messiah
and the power of the internet could not stop itnow I have to seriously ask you "believers"
do you still believe there is a god ?
I do, but I think his MO is to let people run their lives, making choices about whether to live true to correct principles or not. Many self-indulgent people had no problems with Obama's nefarious past because they themselves are corrupted to a point. They do not perceive the red flags in his character and lack of experience.
Incidentally, our church leaders have been preparing us for 2 years for something big. We have our food storage, water, cash supply, etc. Now they have shifted their message and are telling us to be strong, unified...and that something much worse is coming.
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:13pm |
re: #441 DistantThunder
Right on - let them wait in the miserable lines, in the miserable offices, dealing with miserable bureaucrats, who present them with miserable options.
From the democrat party that brought you:
Jim Crow Laws
Welfare that destroyed the Black Family
Appeasement of terroristsWe now have a promise of an Obama "paradise" much like Detroit.
Brought to you by a lawyer.
AMEN!
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Achilles Tang Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:25pm |
re: #470 CIA Reject
YES
Tonight was a victory for Evil, and Evil exists so that good people may FIGHT IT and eventually DEFEAT IT
You sound like a creationist. Make a point, please.
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looking closely Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:42pm |
re: #432 ChargerGirl
Does Rezco [sic] have any reason to roll on Hussein?
Now he has a very good reason NOT to.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:04:44pm |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
It was an unelectable ticket. That's not my fault. I expect Republicans to put together another unelectable ticket next time too. They will lose and it's not my fault for pointing that out. As long as they propose unelectable candidates I won't vote for them. I'm not a Republican and I see no reason why I should.
The Republicans really didn't put that ticket together though, Kilgore. The fricking Liberal Media did. That and those two states where Hitlary sent her minions over to vote for McCain.
I never wanted McCain, I hated the treasonous Manchurian SOB going back to when he helped John Kerry beat the rap for distroying evidence and for then both helping Clinton make 10,000 POW's disappear over night on paper so Bubba could normalize relations with the stinking commie gooks.
Sarah Palin was my only one bright spot of joy the entire last two years.
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Parker in US Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:00pm |
re: #295 Thanos
Right, we need to start with the teaching colleges and the education system first, else we will never gain the ground back. We need to start building up the farm team. Again I'll ask how many lizards know the names of their state legislators? Their city and county politicians? Who are the good ones, who can you work for?
You are right on how in the hell to these people like Murtha get elected it has to be lack of education on the part of the voter!
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kuchuklambat Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:05pm |
re: #451 Naso Tang
NT, with respect, if you have been vigilant, you would not be saying "we can only hope", for the present evidence of who the man is and who stands behind him has long let that hope out of the window. The change will come for you; he's perfect already.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:16pm |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
What happened to the conservative principle of personal responsibility? McCain could have gotten his message out on his own, why should the MSM be required to do it for him?
It's very difficult to get a message out when the communications mediumthat most people suckle on as their only source of news boycotts you.
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Bob Dillon Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:20pm |
re: #402 doppelganglander
I'm pissed at the Bible-thumpers who opposed Romney, and I'm pissed at the snooty elites who didn't think Sarah was good enough for them. The Democrats are basically Marxists, and the Libertarians are a bunch of self-righteous idiots. If anyone would like to start a party for sensible, non-bigoted, non-elitist conservatives, give me a call.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:24pm |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
Killgore - Obama outspent McCain nearly 7-1 (not including his funding of ACORN); Fox news said that over 73% of voters got calls or in-person visits while only 39% got the same from the McCain Campaign.
As I said on one of the Election threads:
Well I was wrong. I thought McCain and Palin would win.
I need time to digest the results (when they are final) to fully comprehend what happened in this election.
But I do think that some points are obvious and it's unlikely that my "full reflection" on this election will change these:
a. America has definitely proven that it is for sale; if you raise 6-7 times the amount of money your opponent raises - regardless of the sources of that money- you can buy the Presidency (rent might be a better term, but for now I'll stick with buy).
b. You need no qualifications at all to be elected President except to be a natural born American Citizen and of legal age.
c. I grossly underestimated the power of the MSM to sway an election.
d. Contrary to Charles observation, I don't think any Republican candidate could have done much better than McCain did - McCain was the most centrist, the most "liberal" (especially on immigration where it appears, I'm sure to his surprise, that Obama won about 60% of the Hispanic vote) candidate that the Republican Party could nominate - a true conservative candidate would have lost by an even larger margin, IMO.In the weeks to come, perhaps upon further reflection I'll be able to understand why, after winning BIG majorities in Congress in 2006, then having the lowest rating of any Congress in history, the Democrats managed to increase their majority in Congress this time around.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:30pm |
re: #402 doppelganglander
I'm pissed at the Bible-thumpers who opposed Romney, and I'm pissed at the snooty elites who didn't think Sarah was good enough for them. The Democrats are basically Marxists, and the Libertarians are a bunch of self-righteous idiots. If anyone would like to start a party for sensible, non-bigoted, non-elitist conservatives, give me a call.
I like Romney better than McCain and he certainly looks more presidential. But if the Republicans wouldn't embrace him I figured the country at large would be even less likely to. I like Sarah Palin, I just hope she takes a course outside of Rinotopia and Fundieville.
I've always viewed the Dems as a bunch of children ((though my first vote when I came of age was for Dukkakis) and saw the Republicans as the only sane alternative (at least after throwing my next vote away on Perot). I see third parties as hopeless, I'm afraid.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:36pm |
My son and his friend just stated that when they become dictators of the universe Canada will be turned in to a theme park and New Zealand will be their vacation house.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:05:46pm |
I am saluting a higher ranking officer, not a superior officer
-BlueCanuck
Me too. But all he gets is one finger like he gave McCain.
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sagamoregal Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:03pm |
re: #472 sagamoregal
"As long as she DOES NOT surround herself with non-neighbors and friends from high school and she stays away from snake handlers in her Wasilla church, she can build up her creds and impress more than just the right-wing part of the party. Love you Sarah. Will miss you. Will miss Piper more. "
Correction.
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Canoe Train Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:05pm |
I am concerned about the Supreme Court appointees as well. It won't be enough to win the midterms. Victory has to take place in the USSC.
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:10pm |
re: #444 IMissReagan
Well, everyone who voted for The One will soon discover he is a Zero.
He will fill my gas tank and pay my rent/mortgage.
Or was that a 95% tax cut?
/or Both?
if I could just touch his robe.
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CIA Reject Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:16pm |
re: #478 Naso Tang
You sound like a creationist. Make a point, please.
What is "creationist" about believing in the existence of Evil?
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:22pm |
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:40pm |
re: #447 nigella
Sorry to bust your bubble, but even if we keep our puny Senate seats, there are enough "rinos" to vote with the dhimmis.
Thanks I didn't think I could possibly be more depressed...
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:41pm |
Sarah Palin will be a regular fixture on talking head segments on news shows.
She is funny, likeable and snarky at times which makes for good television. She also works in a timezone where she can line up several shows and do them at the end of her workday rather than having to "stay up" which heightens her availability.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:06:44pm |
re: #462 Scion9
Yes indeed. The Republicans have consistently adopted the terms that the Democrats have coined and fought on battleground not of their choosing. A lot of Republican campaigns sound like the same exact kind of class warfare rhetoric that the Dems us. Mike Huckabee was the worse among the GOP by far for that kind of stuff, but I heard some of it from McCain and Palin as well.
'Country First' is nice but it is still an appeal to a group identity. At this point it really needs to be 'Liberty First'. An appeal as to what it is to be an American. A return to Classical Liberal principles is what is needed. Republicans are officially no longer on the same side of the spectrum with Democrats.
The conservative, and moderate Democrats are essentially finished. They are the party of Collectivism and Socialism. The mask is off for anyone who has the desire to see it. Unfortunately the Republicans are not currently the party of Individualism and Liberalism to oppose it.
I like Smart Voters, Low Taxes.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:27pm |
re: #420 nigella
Look, we can't deny Obama won, and handily. We can, however work to make sure he is never elected again. Even though he won this time, he didn't beat McCain. He beat George Bush. Bush will be no where near in 2012. Also in 2010 a new election comes up for Congress. Just keep the faith.
Of course he beat McCain. McCain was pathetic.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:27pm |
re: #467 RightMinded
Coleman only up by a bit under 6,000 now with 82% reporting.
/damn, hang on Norm, there's only so much I can take
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:37pm |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
It was an unelectable ticket. That's not my fault. I expect Republicans to put together another unelectable ticket next time too. They will lose and it's not my fault for pointing that out. As long as they propose unelectable candidates I won't vote for them. I'm not a Republican and I see no reason why I should.
The words of a complete dumbass.
I used to think the same way, back in my 20s, when I didn't have the sense to connect the sacrifices made by the countless who came before me, who gave their lives for my right to choose who represent me in the halls of congress, in the senate, and as my president. I've realized, years later, that the right to vote for your representatives is a precious gift that few people in this world share.
It's almost inexcusable - almost - for a petulant anarchist in his 20s to thumb his nose at such a gift. But you, like me, are in your 40s, if I recall correctly, and as such, we have no excuse for not participating. So, we lost. This isn't the biggest loss I've had in my life. November 4 will remain a significant date forever for me, for an entirely different reason. But this election is but one of many more to come. So this loss is but a check-mark in the L column. At least I know I got in the ring, and got my nose bloodied. I'll learn from the experience. What will you do? Chicken out again, because you don't want to be on the losing side? What a pussy.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:07:53pm |
re: #171 Mosse
Thanks for everything, Charles and Lizards. Let's not forget everything we've learned in these months. We know what Obama, Axelrod, Ayers and their supporters believe, and we need to continue on exposing them and naming who they are. Buck up. We've lost a battle, but not the war. Try to get some sleep.
Indeed, we also know just what sorts of schenanigans the MSN pulled to get O elected: They covered up facts, slanted other facts, and sometimes reported stuff that wasn't really true.
We've got to be relentless in our pursuit of and spreading of the truth. Clearly the MSN is our enemy, and the Left is our enemy. We've got to fight them tooth and nail. Starting today. Hell, starting yesterday.
They got O into the White House. We need to turn this into a Pyrrhic victory for them. There are plenty of things that the MSN clearly knew about O that make him unfit for POTUS, things they chose to ignore or chose to cover up. There are clearly things they should have known about or discovered about O that would have been discovered if they'd bothered to look.
We need to make sure everyone knows this.
I'm not saying be all in their face about it, or to go all crazy with it out there, but I AM saying we should collect as much of this stuff as we can get, display it as prominently as we can, and keep it in as many people's attention as we can, for as long as we can, as often as we can. Keep up a constant drumbeat of it.
When the public sours on O, as they inevitably will, we must make sure they know who ultimately to blame for it: The MSN, the LLLeft, and anyone else that had a strongly ulterior motive to WANT someone like O in the White House.
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MrPaulRevere Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:24pm |
Al Franken appears to be losing: [Link: electionresults.sos.state.mn.us...] There is some rough justice.
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countrygurl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:44pm |
There is absolutely NO WAY BHO can deliver on all his promises. The vast, unending expectations of the liberal masses will not be fulfilled. If BHO attempts to deliver as the masses espect, he will over-reach, and will not get his second four years. Power is all important to him, not change. You will see. Therefore, President Obama will by necessity be pragmatic in order to gain EIGHT YEARS of presidential power. His refusal to deliver, of course, will infuriate the worshipping masses, who will turn on him in the next election. Between now and then, the conservatives must manufacture a viable, likable candidate. Please, let's chain Huckabee to a deep stake in his backyard, and then go find Romney.
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WestTexas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:57pm |
Well, I can honestly say that I am sick to my stomach. Hopefully it will pass, and The "O" will be far more towards the center than I foresee. Tomorrow I am buying another gun, and in two weeks to a month I am buying another. Plentyo ammo as well. I will politely dissent until it becomes necessary to fight harder. With a little luck that day will never come. Let us pray he is more of a Bill than a Jimmy.
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ebed_melech Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:08:58pm |
I'm not going to be popular for this, but here goes.
First, I sympathise with those who feel heartbroken - I felt the same here in the UK in 97 when Major lost - I felt then it meant a big change for the future. He was an indecisive and powerless PM, but Blair, for all his strengths, ushered in very serious problems.
Second, I was surprised by the sobriety of Obama's speech - it could almost have been given by a Republican- the only party values he trumpeted were Republican ones. I think he's beginning to feel the weight of his office. I don't have faith in him -but I will pray for him, especially in the coming days.
Third, I have followed McCain and rooted for him in 2000, and I'm sad we've never had a chance to see him in office, but there are advantages for the US in Obama's presidency. One is the challenge it will send to Middle Eastern and African dictatorships. It will raise popular expectations of increasing popular representation.
These are crumbs of comfort - I'm sorry but I think though the changes will augur in the end of American hegemony - and those who celebrate that will I am confident soon deeply rue it - there has never been such a benign 'imperialism', nor do I expect we'll see it again.
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Idle Drifter Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:03pm |
re: #413 Killian Bundy
They passed out candy first, YouTube will have the video soon.
/if you don't think filmed celebration occurred in Gaza during the last hour, well, I can't help you
Actually, I was commenting on how the Palestinians may start to think they can go on a rocket attack free for all due to the political situation in the US, they may be right. I'll wait to see how President Obama will handle the conflict after Jan. 20, 2009. I'm leaning towards disaster.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:39pm |
re: #494 Racer X
One of my close friends drives a race car and his number is "X". I think of that when I see your nic. LOL. I loved speed racer as a kid.
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:09:40pm |
re: #458 Expat Canuck
One of the biggest losses these last few years, especially during this campaign, is a truly free press. The fourth estate acted like the fifth column -- that is a huge concern. Thank you, Charles, for your efforts in bringing the truth to light and giving a voice to the average Joe.
Let's keep our heads and not act like moonbats.
Let's roll.
One of my themes has been that the media-industrial complex is not the free press of the founding fathers. It is, or was until tonight, an unelected, unaccountable shadow government.
In many ways, our primary goal has been to resurrect a genuine free press to replace this corrupt plutocracy. The media plutocrats have achieved their goal of de jure as well as de facto power but in the process they have sacrificed their disguise and are exposed for all the world to see.
"The whole world is watching," media lords. You are accountable now.
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:11:21pm |
re: #426 onlinegangsta
So if Franken wins will the " Daily Affirmation With Stuart Smalley" be added to the MN constitution?
Coleman up by 50K votes with 73% reporting. Still not called yet, though.
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:12pm |
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:17pm |
re: #502 MrPaulRevere
Al Franken appears to be losing/blockquote>
/more, faster
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Bill Dalasio Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:32pm |
re: #78 Jack of Shadows
Now that's just silly. Steve Urkel was an inventor who would probably at this point in life be in the tax bracket Sen. Obama wants to impoverish. Moreover, Urkel always showed a strong degree of restraint, loyalty and integrity that would be foreign to the likes of Sen. Obama. I mean seriously, could you seriously imagine Urkel sitting in Rev. Wright's pews for 20 years without refuting his racism or anti-Americanism? Could you seriously imagine Urkel befriending a terrorist who planned out the murder of 25 million of his countrymen? I certainly couldn't.
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Achilles Tang Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:36pm |
re: #483 kuchuklambat
NT, with respect, if you have been vigilant, you would not be saying "we can only hope", for the present evidence of who the man is and who stands behind him has long let that hope out of the window. The change will come for you; he's perfect already.
Some may think he's perfect. I didn't say that, nor did he. My point however is that we have a system that I respect, and I will now give the benefit of the doubt, (which prevented me from voting for HIM) to him. I argue that he played "our" system to the hilt and I can't deny him that without doing the same to everyone else.
The point is we now have a new president. That is the American way, and I will now support him until I have evidence that he does not support the USA.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:38pm |
re: #376 Adrenalyn
maybe this means the internet is dead
the MSM was not to be denied their messiah
and the power of the internet could not stop itnow I have to seriously ask you "believers"
do you still believe there is a god ?
I have never stopped believing in God! What about you?
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:45pm |
Here's one of the key reasons we lost this cycle:
The Republicans have an er... Performance Problem.
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Biff Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:12:52pm |
re: #491 Canoe Train
The future of the Court lies in the hands of the Senate GOP. They need to hang tough and not break ranks. Not sure we can count on McCain, though.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:18pm |
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BakaRanger Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:31pm |
re: #447 nigella
Sorry to bust your bubble, but even if we keep our puny Senate seats, there are enough "rinos" to vote with the dhimmis.
The Dems will always like to have a few Reps on their side, if nothing more than to have a second set of fingerprints on the lousy bills that they pass.
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DeeAitch Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:13:44pm |
I hope at least that the Dems won't have a filibuster-proof Senate, or Lord knows what President Obama will be able to do just Judicial appointments. (Yes, I will use President Obama rather than follow Mr. Olbermann's example and use a sneering Mr.).
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FlakMusic Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:09pm |
re: #66 nigella
How about Kwanza at the White House. Before you attack me as racist Obama says they do not celebrate Christmas.Kids get too much the rest of the year.
Obama attends the First Church of Political Expediency (Reformed).
No surprise to hear that Christmas isn't an event at the Obama house. Jesus is the competition.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:22pm |
re: #348 Ward Cleaver
It's Socialism in action, thinking that man can be perfected. His tutors have taught him well.
Reminds me of LBJ and his "Great Society"
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yenta-fada Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:26pm |
My fear is our weak congress will never criticize him for fear of being called racist so they'll do whatever he wants.
-ChargerGirlWho is going to restrain whom? Nobody left now but Marxists. (I turned my fear into a boatload of gold ETFs today.)
Problem with gold ETF is that they are depending on no dislocation of the derivative markets. You may get gains, but you won't get the asset that is really rare...gold itself. The rest are just digits in cyberspace. Barclays covers a lot of ETF trades. Do you trust it more than Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, AIG, etc? If you are in the casino called the stock market, you are not making your own rules. Gold in hand is nobody's liability. There is no counterparty risk. Not investment advice. Just pointing out the instability of financial markets at this time in history. Would you have believed that major financial institutions would go belly up in the blink of an eye? Nobody is looking out for you. This election just proved that.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:27pm |
re: #455 ChargerGirl
America needs a huge jar of Vaseline because we just got royally screwed.
Don't embarrass yourself, you know Pelosi and Reid will bring a rag and have Barney Frank wipe that stuff off first.
Besides Vaseline is a petroleum product, and pretty soon it's gonna be far too rare and expensive as a banned black market luxury to be putting on .
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:14:32pm |
re: #503 countrygurl
. . . the conservatives must manufacture a viable, likable candidate. Please, let's chain Huckabee to a deep stake in his backyard, and then go find Romney.
Romney would have been an excellent candidate against Obama regarding the economy. Obambi wouldn't have known what hit him in those debates.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:03pm |
re: #503 countrygurl
There is absolutely NO WAY BHO can deliver on all his promises.
Gee, what was your first clue?
/simple math?
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:07pm |
re: #393 calcajun
That was a very good post calcajun, except for one thing: I AM a sore loser - for the likes of those who elected this totally unqualified man to be President.
McCain played "nice guy" and "bipartisanship" for all it was worth and I must say this: The Democrats and "independents" who elected him don't give a DAMN about bi-partisanship. Throughout Bush's 8 years as POTUS, except for a three or four day period after 9/11, they have attacked Bush mercilessly and frequently (though admittedly not always) unfairly and inaccurately.
They deserve no better.
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MrPaulRevere Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:18pm |
re: #459 Shiplord Kirel
I wanna be like you when I grow up. Great sentiment.
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Mauser Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:42pm |
Will Rev. Wright give the benediction at the Inauguration, I wonder?
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Achilles Tang Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:45pm |
re: #493 CIA Reject
What is "creationist" about believing in the existence of Evil?
Shucks, and I thought I was being clever. Stupid me.
Ever hear of Chicken Little? There are time to use words and there are time not to.
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bcgirl Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:46pm |
hey! add that to your extra tax rebate from obama and you can go on a vacation! whooo hooo tha
re: #464 newsjunkie_ky
Hey realwest,
Yep, daughter turns 30 in a week. I've bought their groceries for 3 years and I'm now through. I'll be able to put about $600 under my mattress every month. I'm through. This Republican has helped them all she is going to. They want president elect government then let him take care of them.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:46pm |
There is absolutely NO WAY BHO can deliver on all his promises. The vast, unending expectations of the liberal masses will not be fulfilled. If BHO attempts to deliver as the masses espect, he will over-reach, and will not get his second four years. Power is all important to him, not change. You will see. Therefore, President Obama will by necessity be pragmatic in order to gain EIGHT YEARS of presidential power.
-CountryGurl
You're right. And if he gets in office again, he won't have any incentive to restrain himself from turning America into a Marxist utopia.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:15:49pm |
re: #508 Shiplord Kirel
One of my themes has been that the media-industrial complex is not the free press of the founding fathers. It is, or was until tonight, an unelected, unaccountable shadow government.
In many ways, our primary goal has been to resurrect a genuine free press to replace this corrupt plutocracy. The media plutocrats have achieved their goal of de jure as well as de facto power but in the process they have sacrificed their disguise and are exposed for all the world to see."The whole world is watching," media lords. You are accountable now.
They must be more than "accountable." We must show them they (and their advertisers/sponsors) are economically vulnerable.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:06pm |
re: #519 Racer X
I wanted a Speed Racer lunchbox when I was little, but my mom thought I would turn into a lesbian (not that there is anything wrong with that) if I had stuff boys liked so she made me get a Nancy Drew.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:10pm |
re: #456 looking closely
It wasn't simply that the MSM didn't get out his message (although it didn't), its that they aided and abetted Obama in multiple ways, by not properly vetting Obama, by supporting his BS, and by constantly attacking McCain.
Ultimately the blame falls on McCain, but he had a steep uphill fight.
I don't see what more McCain could have done. He worked like a horse. He made a better choice for VP than anybody at the time realized. But he ran into a perfect economic storm. Sometimes, there's just no way to win.
Now, it falls our lot to be the loyal opposition. We aren't driving, but we can still remark upon that hairpin in the road up ahead that tends to be icy.
On the off chance that Obama means it about listening, we should provide careful, sober, realistic advice, backed by facts and logic. Our advice should be presented in a tone that will make it emotionally and politically possible for him to act on it if, after thinking it over, he reckons we have a good point.
To draw a military analogy, once the captain sets a course, there's no use messing with the engine maintenance trying to slow the ship down. That's where she's going, and a burst of power may be the only way to save her, what with where she's going.
There is reason to fear that he's going to run us onto the reefs. Especially in this, our echo chamber, those reasons seem strong. But our job isn't to sulk and say we're gonna sink. Our job is to make sure nice clean charts go up to the bridge, with the shoals and reefs clearly marked, together with how the course plotted takes us onto those reefs. With the intersection marked in red, and a suggested alternative course to the same destination.
If that is not heeded, our job is to request to be transferred from navigation to damage control duty, in the hope that some other navigator may be able to drive home the connection between the red marks on the map, the plotted course, and watery death.
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:16:44pm |
re: #526 Dotcoman
Don't embarrass yourself, you know Pelosi and Reid will bring a rag and have Barney Frank wipe that stuff off first.
Besides Vaseline is a petroleum product, and pretty soon it's gonna be far too rare and expensive as a banned black market luxury to be putting on .
There's still Crisco.
Remember, cold fist but a warm heart.
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WestTexas Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:13pm |
re: #526 Dotcoman
Thank you, that was the first laugh I have had in awhile. In some respects though it is sad that it is partially true.
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Steffan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:14pm |
re: #508 Shiplord Kirel
One of my themes has been that the media-industrial complex is not the free press of the founding fathers. It is, or was until tonight, an unelected, unaccountable shadow government.
In many ways, our primary goal has been to resurrect a genuine free press to replace this corrupt plutocracy. The media plutocrats have achieved their goal of de jure as well as de facto power but in the process they have sacrificed their disguise and are exposed for all the world to see."The whole world is watching," media lords. You are accountable now.
Looking at the bright side, the businesses that are the MSM are failing big time. NYT stocks are officially junk, most major newspapers are laying off editorial staff, and the main networks are hemorrhaging viewers. Not even the Fairness Doctrine will save them.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:19pm |
re: #492 ibmkeyboard
He will fill my gas tank and pay my rent/mortgage.
Or was that a 95% tax cut?
/or Both?
if I could just touch his robe.
He's gonna make me tall, sexy and irresistible to college age women. That and cure my bad eye sight and my bad back and my cussing like a sailor too.
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Biff Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:19pm |
Obama is a creation of William Ayers. You really think he is going to turn towards the center? A feint for the sake of the MSM and centrist sheep, probably, but he has his mentor's agenda to fill.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:29pm |
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FlakMusic Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:31pm |
re: #125 Racer X
One entity to blame for this.
Not McCain - he actually did fairly well considering what he was up against.
Not the American people - they were fooled.
I blame the media. And I hold a grudge.
I second that...although the media only succeeded in ramming Obama down America's throat because of an ignorant and complacent electorate willing to be spoon fed big mouthfulls of Hope & Change.
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shrike Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:17:35pm |
Random drunken and maybe charitable thoughts from a Torontonian
Obama with all of his associations is in the belly of the beast...the best place from which to stab it.
He's been so long indoctinated in socialist and/or communist thought that it may have started before he was too young too understand. To quote Captain Kirk about Lt Cmdr Mitchell in Where No Man Has Hone Before "He didn't ask for what happened to him"
I'm surprised no one that I saw mentioned the scene in David Cronenberg's The Dead Zone where Stilson's career was ruined (I won't post a link unless asked)
I did in truth hear a couple of "OBAMMMAAA" cries tonight.
And thats all. Flame, up or down ding as you will. Good night.
No one else I know was a McCain/Palin fan
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yenta-fada Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:18:58pm |
re: #488 Steve
My son and his friend just stated that when they become dictators of the universe Canada will be turned in to a theme park and New Zealand will be their vacation house.
As a Canadian, I will not allow my igloo to be confiscated for 'the one'. :-)
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:20:07pm |
re: #543 Killian Bundy
Hey, you promised Florida.
/just kidding, not your fault
I'll say it's not. My side of Florida - the rational SW side - voted for McCain in droves.
Anyone see if Broward/Miami-Dade/Palm Beach had 110% turnout?
/only a little
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hang a ralph Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:21:11pm |
Well, I hope Michelle honey can get the chip off of her shoulder or will she wear proudly while in the White House. Just think, Joe Biden is one heartbeat away from the presidency. Now that is what is scary to me.
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calcajun Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:21:25pm |
re: #529 realwest
That was a very good post calcajun, except for one thing: I AM a sore loser - for the likes of those who elected this totally unqualified man to be President.
McCain played "nice guy" and "bipartisanship" for all it was worth and I must say this: The Democrats and "independents" who elected him don't give a DAMN about bi-partisanship. Throughout Bush's 8 years as POTUS, except for a three or four day period after 9/11, they have attacked Bush mercilessly and frequently (though admittedly not always) unfairly and inaccurately.
They deserve no better.
Thanks. I, too, do not give a damn about bi-partisanship. I knew a man who tried to stand in the middle of the road; he got run over by traffic going in both directions.
I care about elevating the discussion. I care about not turning people off with the politics of personal destruction, but educating the electorate. We have to watch every move, document every act and be able to hit them with their own words and deeds so as to illustrate the vacancy of their positions. To constantly snipe at their personal attributes only weakens you to the point that ultimately no one accepts your message.
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Florida Lady Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:22:40pm |
re: #543 Killian Bundy
Hey, you promised Florida.
/just kidding, not your fault
Big victory in Florida though , , , Mahoney got the boot! And the county north of ours - Charlotte - had a lot to do with that!
/gotta take the good news where you can find it!
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Dahveed Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:14pm |
Ultimately, the rich will still be rich and the poor will still be poor. Nobody, especially Barack Obama, can change that. As soon as the masses that didn't really look into who they were voting for begin to realize that a president is not about words but about action, leadership, and integrity, then we will see a new Reagan Revolution.
The next crucial step is to find a new leader. As I said in a previous post, we need to find energetic and passionate conservatives to lead our party. Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal, and Michael Steele need to be the new voice. Otherwise we will have eight years of this. We can no longer have a party that tries to be everything to everybody. The "Big Tent" approach is a failure. We cannot have a House Minority Leader that lets the likes of Nancy Pelosi say anything without response. The Senate Minority Leadership needs to put Harry Reid in his place.
We played nice for far too long.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:35pm |
re: #540 Steffan
Looking at the bright side, the businesses that are the MSM are failing big time. NYT stocks are officially junk, most major newspapers are laying off editorial staff, and the main networks are hemorrhaging viewers. Not even the Fairness Doctrine will save them.
We conservatives need to expedite the process.
There just CANNOT BE THE SAME TYPE OF MSM (aka the fourth, unelected, in the tank branch of government) come 2012.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:36pm |
re: #539 WestTexas
Thank you, that was the first laugh I have had in awhile. In some respects though it is sad that it is partially true.
You are welcome.
Partially? Give it time. Obama is on record as saying we should be paying the same if not more for our gasoline as they do in Europe. Back when it was like $9. a liter.
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Randall Gross Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:23:36pm |
I liked parts of Barack's speech tonight, let us hope he lives up to it. The office has an effect -- it matures a person beyond all their prior experience. Let us hope that President Elect Barack Obama feels that effect, and that the chameleon effect he's had throughout his carreer molds him into a good president for all americans and our allies.
Even if it doesn't mature him and the chameleon effect doesn't change him, the sun will still come up tomorrow, my wife and dogs will still love me, and my 401K will eventually increase again. [there's no way in hell that the dem's will get enough votes for a raid on those btw, it would be sure defeat in 2010, so I actually hope they try it.]
That said, time to get some sleeps. Those of you who must go over the top with your vents, take it to the lounge, that's what it's there for.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:05pm |
"Problem with gold ETF is that they are depending on no dislocation of the derivative markets. "
-yenta fada
Well when my paranoia level gets great enough I will buy American Eagles. But where to stash them and what if they are stolen? I suppose it's okay to be paranoid if they're really out to get ya, but I'm still waiting to see.
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Gwrtheyrn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:18pm |
So we Canucks give the Conservative party a stronger (though still minority) government, and the US elects a closet Marxist...
Who flipped the North American Political Polarity Switch?
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arizona9 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:39pm |
Michelle is busy planning her first 'What America Can Learn From the Rest of the World' speech for her first trip abroad.
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Biff Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:24:53pm |
re: #537 lostlakehiker
McCain never went after Obama with the facts of Obama's dirty associations and socialist pedigree. He didn't need the MSM to do that, he had a free captive audience in the three debates and Obama right in his sites, and McCain refused to take his fellow Senator down.
McCain lost any chance by not taking the fight directly to Obama when he had the chance in front of tens of millions. It was a very primal thing, and he didn't take the shot.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:25:22pm |
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hang a ralph Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:04pm |
Someone quickly tell that black lady where to go get the check to fill her tank and pay her rent. Boy can I imagine how torqued off this lady will be when reality hits her.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:15pm |
re: #549 calcajun
Thanks. I, too, do not give a damn about bi-partisanship.
Leadership is about taking a stand.
"Consensus is the lack of leadership" - Margaret Thatcher
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prototype Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:17pm |
re: #473 Tigger2005
All I am saying is let's give him a chance. No one knows how he will govern. I thought Clinton would be a lot worse than he turned out to be. Yeah he had the problem of being a liar, but he helped reduce welfare and promoted free trade. Let's be gracious and give him a chance. If he fails, pounce on him for it.
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Timbre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:26:57pm |
re: #539 WestTexas
I'm in Midland. Nice to meet another area Lizard--though West Texas is larger than many eastern states!
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:27:44pm |
re: #558 Biff
McCain lost any chance by not taking the fight directly to Obama when he had the chance in front of tens of millions. It was a very primal thing, and he didn't take the shot.
I agree, McCain losing it and giving Obama a real navy-pilot tongue lashing might have had an impact.
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ErislDysnomia Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:20pm |
re: #563 prototype
All I am saying is let's give him a chance. No one knows how he will govern. I thought Clinton would be a lot worse than he turned out to be. Yeah he had the problem of being a liar, but he helped reduce welfare and promoted free trade. Let's be gracious and give him a chance. If he fails, pounce on him for it.
We have no choice but to "give him a chance."
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hershel Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:23pm |
"He was very gracious toward McCain and Palin."
He's *always* very gracious. He's always had others do his dirty work for him, except when his "first-class temperament" gets the better of him and he flips the bird to Hillary or McCain.
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:28:49pm |
[Link: elections.cbslocal.com...]
Norm Coleman up by 10,000 votes with 87% in.
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Steve Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:08pm |
re: #546 yenta-fada
As a Canadian, I will not allow my igloo to be confiscated for 'the one'. :-)
actually it would be the 'two'. My son and his friend. I could possibly get you a position in their theme park;P
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:11pm |
re: #538 calcajun
Crisco? But wouldn't that risk frying it, due to the generated heat?
If we're gonna collectively have to suffer the indignanty of having to bend over and take it in the first place, must we also have to suffer having them deep fat fried as well, calcajun?
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MissLL Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:29:22pm |
Well.
There were many things that went wrong here with this election.
1. McCain was a weak candidate.
2. Obama had tons more money to spend, and spent it in battleground states we really needed (Ohio, Pennsylania, etc.)
3. Republicans working on the election were not as organized as Obama's (many more people were contacted in Ohio by Democrats than Republicans).
4. Obama was a much younger candidate that the younger voters could relate to.
5. College has indoctrinated a ton of people to think liberally.
6. The economy became bad.
So, all those things considered, I think we didn't do that bad...just not good enough. There's nothing else to do but to pick up and start all over again and correct the mistakes where we see them. We were able to have 8 years of conservative rule (yes, I know, some say it wasn't all that conservative but much more preferable to Gore or Kerry, hey) and that's something. So we can do it again, especially when people see things aren't really changing under the "change" candidate and that their taxes are rising and we are getting threatened all over by rogue nations.
Tomorrow is a new day.
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Biff Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:30:20pm |
re: #564 Timbre
The Midland - That beautiful stripe on the Electoral Map from North Dakota to Texas.
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:30:49pm |
re: #524 arizona9
Come on Coleman, come on!
Coleman is now 7,500 votes ahead with 81% precincts reporting. Percentages are 42% Coleman, 42% Douchebag with close to 2 million votes counted.
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UncleSam Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:15pm |
What's done is done.
Obama will be the next President of the United States.
His acceptance speech was pretty good, I thought.
Let's hope he lives up to it, and let us take the role of the Loyal Opposition, when we think he's going wrong.
So it goes...
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SaneInMN Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:38pm |
I voted for McCain, but I also made a campaign contribution to the NC Republican Party, due to their standing up to the "Maverick" when they refused to pull their Rev. Wright ad.
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Timbre Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:31:59pm |
re: #572 Biff
Neat. I was going to comment on that--the wheat and corn Heartland. We are awesome!
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:32:48pm |
Correction -- Coleman now up 12,000 votes with over 2 million counted.
Go Norm, Go. We gotta have some good news here.
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yenta-fada Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:35:56pm |
re: #555 Freedom Fan
"Problem with gold ETF is that they are depending on no dislocation of the derivative markets. "
-yenta fadaWell when my paranoia level gets great enough I will buy American Eagles. But where to stash them and what if they are stolen? I suppose it's okay to be paranoid if they're really out to get ya, but I'm still waiting to see.
The BIG problem is that gold eagles and other bullion coins are already getting scarce. People have started to figure out that all of these bailouts are debasing the currency. You can think of a clever place to shash them. More than one, actually, so you don't put all eggs in one basket. Of course there is a risk of theft, but there's a risk driving on the highways as well. It boils down to self-reliance and that manifests itself in many ways.
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Freedom Fan Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:37:04pm |
I sense a calm before the perfect storm. 2009 will be the year that Atlas shrugged.
Funny thing about the free enterprise market economy: When you lose confidence in it, it loses confidence in you.
Obama and his merry band of Marxists are about to discover once again that it's the economy, stoopid! I wonder if he ever even learned real economics?
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Edouard Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:39:08pm |
Norm now up 15,000 votes, 88% reporting. Each update lately has widened his lead...
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yenta-fada Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:40:48pm |
re: #569 Steve
Doing my Mr. Burns imitation: 'heh heh heh. The Canadian winter will defeat 'the one' as Russia defeated Napoleon. (preying mantis fingertips)
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:06pm |
re: #549 calcajun Well it certainly didn't weaken the fools who voted Obama in as the next POTUS - I will attack him on policy issues (should he ever really enunciate any) but I will NOT cut them any more slack than they cut Bush.
NONE!
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Infidel_One Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:41:20pm |
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:42:39pm |
re: #574 UncleSam
What's done is done.
Obama will be the next President of the United States.
His acceptance speech was pretty good, I thought.
Let's hope he lives up to it, and let us take the role of the Loyal Opposition, when we think he's going wrong.So it goes...
I was thinking more along the lines of making them eat their words comparing the One to Lincoln; and seceding The Republic of Texas from the coming Union of Marxist Grievance States.
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realwest Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:42:44pm |
re: #557 arizona9
Yeah, I wonder if she's still gonna be ashamed to say she's from America? I know I'm gonna be ashamed to say she's from America! LOL!
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lostlakehiker Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:43:50pm |
re: #493 CIA Reject
What is "creationist" about believing in the existence of Evil?
Nothing. The two are separate issues. We here have enough trouble about our real disagreements. The "hard-science" Richard Dawkins atheist perspective that there's no such thing as good or evil is actually bad science, because the careful scientist recognizes that "evil" translates, in geekspeak, to "acting with the purpose to get everybody killed, or every living thing killed, or something less drastic but in the same vein", and there is such a thing.
There really are people who act that way. And while the Dawkinses of the world may insist on saying that isn't evil, because nothing is, there is no denying that it's dangerous and that people who want to live, and know about that purpose, will be powerfully motivated to try to stop it---partly by their own efforts, and partly by advertising the danger and calling this purpose "evil", so as to recruit allies for the struggle.
So, a Dawkins-thinker can think of "evil" as a convenient shorthand for "something that almost everybody will oppose if they just know about it".
The less dogmatic materialist grants that there are such things as good and evil, independent of whether there is God and Satan. When it comes down to what we should do, here and now in this life, there is no necessary collision between materialists and people of faith. Whatever the metaphysics of the situation, that guy who goes around strangling women needs to be stopped from doing it again, and talking nicely to him and asking him to stop will not work.
In short, he's evil.
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Dotcoman Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:40pm |
Hey!
California just banned gay marriage ?
The hell?
We tried to ban Abortion in SD tonight, but the idiots were afraid of a lawsuit.
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gkcooper Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:44:59pm |
re: #45 Walter L. Newton
Where do you live, asshole?
Call me what you will but I WILL NEVER RESPECT THIS ASSHAT no matter where he goes to work every morning for the next four years.
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Gwrtheyrn Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:46:31pm |
re: #579 Dotcoman
Ah, common sense and liberty. I hear tell from the old folk about the days when those were around. I'm hoping that maybe the whole "political polarity reversal" trend will continue and I'll get my freedom of speech back.
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joekowalski247 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:49:33pm |
re: #19 CIA Reject
OH...MY...GAWD! A FOUR YEAR DRINKING GAME!
/Count me in!
Get Drunk lose job collect unemployment.
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joekowalski247 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:32pm |
re: #588 Dotcoman
Hey!
California just banned gay marriage ?
The hell?
We tried to ban Abortion in SD tonight, but the idiots were afraid of a lawsuit.
No Wrong CA. just defined terms
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Bagua Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:50:55pm |
re: #440 BlueCanuck
One thing I have to say right at this moment. If you can't respect the man, at least respect the office he holds.
/I am saluting a higher ranking officer, not a superior officer
Under normal circumstances I would share your sentiment. Under normal circumstances I would accept that the people have spoken.
However, this was not a free and fair election. Period. I am not referring to the malignant influence of the media, I accept that.
What I do not accept is the obvious voter fraud that has occurred. In any state that was close, Acorn and their fellows have registered sufficient illegals to steal that state.
Hillary also had her nomination stolen by illegal acts.
It is clear the Obama raised a tremendous amount of illegal, foreign money.
This was not a fair election. Period. America is my country but Obama is not my president. The office of the Presidency and the legacy of free elections have been undermined.
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Salem Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:57:22pm |
re: #82 seagreenroom
My only hope at this point is that Rezko sings and we can get this charlatan on that bogus real estate deal that netted him about $300,000. With any luck, TheOne can be thrown in prison before the ingauguration.
That's right up there with hoping our space brothers come down in gleaming spacecraft and bestow eternal happiness on the earth.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 10:59:45pm |
re: #340 ErislDysnomia
Still, it was not a landslide.
That it was not is a sign of hope. Even with all that went on, there is still a critical mass of people who are not stupid.
True, a landslide is when a large percentage of the general population vote a particular person into office, it is not when a large percentage of the electorial college do, when such is in great contrast to the votes of the general population.
Trouble is, a lot of people in the news media sometimes mistakenly (or deliberately/knowingly) refer to a large percentage of the electorial college, as and of itself, going towards a particular candidate as being a landslide. I actually heard one of the pundits tonight on FNC refer to O's victory tonight as one, strictly because of the electorial college. It's a complete misuse of the term, though, to use it in any context other than actual votes of the general population, because it otherwise loses it's very specialized and specific meaning.
In short, we must never lose track of the fact that probably only half of the actual voting public voted for O this time around, if even that, and we must never let the country forget that fact either. If the MSN wants to refer to this victory of O as a landslide... we gotta say, loud and clear, "Like HELL it was!" We gotta shout that from the housetops, continuously, until at least the mid-term elections, and we gotta remind everyone what the strict definition of "landslide victory" actually is. Don't let the MSN redefine it as something it isn't in order to make O's election look like something it isn't.
It's all a matter of keeping the faith, and of keeping the truth, in great detail, out where everyone can see it, from here on out, for as long as it takes, and never letting it be swept under the rug or chucked down a memory hole. Ever. Forever. As far and as wide as can be managed.
Period.
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Fearless Fred Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:47pm |
re: #597 NomadOfNorad
It's all a matter of keeping the faith, and of keeping the truth, in great detail, out where everyone can see it, from here on out, for as long as it takes
But, did they see the truth today?
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rancher Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:09:55pm |
Just got here. I hope we have no deranged lizards. I know what's ahead, look to the Carter years for guidance. I take no pleasure in the fact that those who supported Obama will be the most hurt, except of course for the freeloaders of our society. America is about to get a lesson and apparently we need one. Country boy will survive. I will support our new president, I will not hope for his failure, nor will I work for it. But I will oppose any policies that I believe harmful to America, that's what loyal opposition does. Now the work toward changing the congress in 2010 begins. One question, where does the GOP go from here? Should we move even more left, so as to get back in power, or should we move back to conservatism?
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AReadyRepub Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:10:09pm |
re: #109 Florida Lady
I thought of that yesterday. Are we the only two? (What part of Florida, I lived in Pensy and liked it except for the oak roaches, arwgh)
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Fearless Fred Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:18:17pm |
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princetrumpet Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:23:49pm |
re: #26 Ward Cleaver
He was very gracious toward McCain and Palin.
He should be even more gracious and send a thank you note to McCain's campaign advisors.
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Fearless Fred Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:32:27pm |
re: #599 rancher
One question, where does the GOP go from here? Should we move even more left, so as to get back in power, or should we move back to conservatism?
Gotta stay with truth ... can't pretend socialist policies are either morally acceptable, or effective. Republicans will wiggle around like politicians ... conservatives must stand up and fight honestly for truth and freedom from government tyranny!
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FlakMusic Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:39:51pm |
re: #567 hershel
"He was very gracious toward McCain and Palin."
He's *always* very gracious. He's always had others do his dirty work for him, except when his "first-class temperament" gets the better of him and he flips the bird to Hillary or McCain.
Obama is an actor. He has to be. Only the smoothest guy in the room could get away with smiling at you while picking your pocket and defending infanticide.
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:48:48pm |
Well, weet dreams, fellow lizards... I am heading to bed. Maybe I'll even be able to sleep... :-%P%
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badger1970 Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:27pm |
There can be no turning the other cheek and loving one's enemies. America has just elected someone who couldn't care less about our once great nation, his friends are upfront about hating America, wants to usher in his own five-year plan, stifle the media and contrary opinions, tax us to death, take away our right to bear arms and have our imperfect children be candidates for state asylums (if not already murdered after birth). Also, the world economy is sinking faster than a lead balloon as I speak and I hope and pray Israel has their nukes and bombers ready to hit Iran and Syria hard and fast at a moments. notice.
In summary, we so screwed.
PS. Why don't we all congratulate Will Jefferson (cold hard cash) and Murtha (racist, redneck, traitor) on their victories /s
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LynnfromNZ Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:52:40pm |
now we should be able to get rid of all this affirmative action crap, all these adding to blacks’ SAT scores, minority set-asides and quotas. Hey, if a black can make it to be president now, why do they need any special help anymore? It’s the silver lining I see, that professional racists like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. might be put out of business now that we’ve proven with the most emphatic action we can take that America is, once and for all, and has actually been for a long time, NOT a racist country.
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FlakMusic Tue, Nov 4, 2008 11:57:09pm |
re: #610 LynnfromNZ
It’s the silver lining I see, that professional racists like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. might be put out of business now that we’ve proven with the most emphatic action we can take that America is, once and for all, and has actually been for a long time, NOT a racist country.
Dream on. The spin will be that because Obama wasn't elected with 100% of the vote means that there's still a whole lot of racists out there...that need to be dealt with...
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jetziger Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:52:11am |
I just cannot believe how stupid America has proved to be. Offered to choice between
a) an old war hero with a long and distinguished record of public service, the very embodiment of patriotism,
and
b) a young guy with no accomplishments, shady connections, deliberately-concealed past, sinister cult-like followers, corrupt dealings, distaste for the Constitution...
America picks (b).
"Who's the bigger fool? The fool, or the fool who believes him?"
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Red Lion Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:05:40am |
Obama gave a great speech. It's no wonder he won. He and McCain were the two best candidates of my voting lifetime. And the best man won, fair and squre. Deal with it, learn from it, and go on and enjoy your lives. Don't pout or sulk or plan recriminations.
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Salem Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:37:10am |
re: #51 Salem
"Our union can be perfected"
Perfected? Who will decide when it's perfect? This guy is a bit lacking in humility.
Oops! It's right there in the preamble of the Constitution. I feel like a perfect knob. Unfortunately, "a more perfect union" isn't in the cards, now. Obamas handlers would like to bring about a collective but more likely we'll see chaos, strife, graft and misery until the big boys take the controls again.
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Salem Wed, Nov 5, 2008 1:48:42am |
re: #613 Red Lion
Obama gave a great speech. It's no wonder he won. He and McCain were the two best candidates of my voting lifetime. And the best man won, fair and squre. Deal with it, learn from it, and go on and enjoy your lives. Don't pout or sulk or plan recriminations.
...said the glassy-eyed pod-person...
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Perplexed Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:22:18am |
re: #12 Walter L. Newton
Well, one way or another, you should care. He is your president elect. He will need our support when he does well, and when he doesn't, we will speak out.
Sort of like when Bush won in 2000? That kind of support? Support his version of the ton ton macoute? Support socialized health care? Support reduction in defense funding? Support cap and trade that will leave many in this country freezing during the winter and roasting during the summer?
That kind of support?
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Cutty Sark Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:30:15am |
Have faith doomsayers , after all we survived two terms of Bush .
Experience ? Ole' George had two terms to get it right ...so much for alleged experience .
Harry Truman was picked , more or less in the same vein as Palin ...he was a small town haberdasherry owner .
Reagan was an actor .
In all cases the people had spoken , just as in this case .
If you want 4 more years of half of America calling the other half -traitor , go ahead ...it'll be just like the last 12 .
As usual , those in the middle , will pick up the pieces and carry on .
Lets the mudslinging acrimony begin ...again .
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Kozak Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:50:57am |
Where's my PIE?
I was promised Pie and I want it now.
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NeedleStack Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:01:42am |
re: #619 Perplexed
C'mon -- he said support when he does well and speak out when he doesn't. Nobody expects you to support policies you think are bad. Pretty much every president does good and bad things. Support the good, fight the bad.
BTW, this thread is pretty respectful all things considered, and I appreciate that.
I hope Obama does a decent job. Only time will tell. If he doesn't, well, I hope we boot him out and find someone better.
Respect to McCain.
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Logic Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:43:12am |
Our new Glorious Leader's victory speech was very disappointing. I expected more details about when we're going to get all the free stuff from the evil bourgeoisie rich people.
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reags Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:52:04am |
re: #595 Salem
That's right up there with hoping our space brothers come down in gleaming spacecraft and bestow eternal happiness on the earth.
What...you mean they're not coming? What the hell am I going to do now...they were my reaosn for getting up this morning...
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Chiller1064 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:39:03am |
Obama is not MY guy- and he didn't earn my vote.
That said, he is now President-Elect and the future President of the United States. I am willing to give him the chance to earn my respect (as he requested in his acceptance speech) and will respect The Office if I cannot respect The Man at a minimum.
I honestly do hope that he can make things better, be a centrist who works to represent ALL Americans- not just a weak, empty puppet for The Left. I have to believe Obama is smart enough to understand what he has been given and does NOT want to go down as the Next Jimmah Carter.
Obama gets his chance now- and everyone will be watching. Hopefully he doesn't screw up too bad or the chickens will really come home to roost with Republican majorities in two years.
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Rkrocket Wed, Nov 5, 2008 9:22:25am |
The next speeches will focus on:
"Be patient - it takes a long time to turn around a great ship. Change won't happen right away"
"I've chosen a team of reanimated clintonites, proven change agents"
"I have reason to believe that the economy is in far worse shape than I thought, so you're all going to have to be more patriotic."
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Dudley Wed, Nov 5, 2008 10:32:20am |
re: #82 seagreenroom
My only hope at this point is that Rezko sings and we can get this charlatan on that bogus real estate deal that netted him about $300,000. With any luck, TheOne can be thrown in prison before the ingauguration.
Countdown to Rezko being found dead under "mysterious circumstances"...
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vancomycin Wed, Nov 5, 2008 10:37:50am |
Nope, I'm not giving him any support whatsoever.
Actually... I will act within the given framework that this country provides (elections, laws and such) to oppose this loser as much as possible.
He, and his side, lost the the right to ask for "respect" when they failed to give it.
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descolada9 Wed, Nov 5, 2008 11:14:47am |
John Wayne attended the inauguration of Jimmy Carter as a member of the loyal opposition. I stand the same, but I am SICK AND TIRED of our trying to reach across the aisle and of being more respectable of the other side. Screw them and screw the nutless Republicans who keep "trying to get along". I have had it with them and I want no more of them. I have asked Mr. Duncan of the NRC to resign and I also want to hear no more out of McCain and his wishy washy attitudes.
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motorbike mike Wed, Nov 5, 2008 12:22:00pm |
Well perhaps we can now begin blaming everything that goes wrong on Barrack and the DEMs. We can refer to it as the Obamma Derangement Syndrome or ODS. It has a nice ring to it!
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ballantrae Wed, Nov 5, 2008 3:13:54pm |
We should be polite and respectful and work with who we need to where appropriate. But that doesn't mean we have to shower them with love either.
After all, let's face it, we know how much crap we'll have to put up with if it's our turn.
-ron
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Wookieelips Wed, Nov 5, 2008 4:52:35pm |
re: #30 Percopius
So, is America still racist?
Only slightly less than half of America is still racist.
/hee hee
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Islamophobic Warmongering Infidel Wed, Nov 5, 2008 5:28:07pm |
Like most of you, I was miffed at the outcome and the man i voted for did not make the grade.
The RNC was totally outflanked, outspent, out manned, out maneuvered, OUT PLANNED and was generally given a lesson on how to conduct a modern campaign.
These lessons will be well taken...I hope. If the RNC does not take some serious notes from this, we can expect more of the same in 2 years and again in four.
I think for my self I am going to get involved actively instead of passively and join the steering committee in my area. Those of us who are not active had better get active for the next round and if not, you will have absolutely no reason whatsoever to complain.
This was most definitely a wake up call.
As a side note, I hope Obama is who I hope he is instead of who I think he is.
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