Keep on riding that bike right out of the country. It'd be sad to lose a citizen, but it's the only way I can think to keep that flag from hitting the ground.

Seattleites want to wave the flag, hang it from their homes and stick it on their cars arse.

If this is the first time in your life you're proud of this country, you're an idiot.

That's just a fact.

Perhaps they could get some of those flags the McCain people stole in Denver after the Democratic Convention.

//

Barack Obama's presidential win held a poignant significance for liberal Seattleites: This is their America, too America's tush.

OT

Fox announces R.E is chief of staff.

Pop Reject (my father) always used to say that the last stanza of the Star Spangled Banner was a very telling question that is as valid today as when it was written. When Key wrote the words he knew that in the morning this would still be the "land of the free and the home of the brave", but he didn't know if the flag would be there or not. Today we know the flag will still be there, we just don't know whether or not the country it flies over will still be the "land of the free and the home of the brave".

True to this day- especially now.

Not bad for an ex-navy gunner with only a HS diploma.

re: #8 Walter L. Newton

OT

Fox announces R.E is chief of staff.

I feel much safer now that the Messiah's first pick is a ballerina.

So, when did this "I'm an American only when things are just right" shit get started.

When I served my country, LBJ was the President. I hated the son of a bitch. But it was still MY country. And he was my Commander in Chief.

What's this country coming to?

They have a suck football team this year too!

42 years old and:

“This is the first day in my life I actually feel this funny sense of pride about my country. It’s a very foreign feeling, but it’s a good one.”

Good grief.

"This is the first day in my life I actually feel this funny sense of pride about my country."

Now THAT is funny.

The same people who whine about how America is the
"Land of Convenience" are "conveniently" proud of America now.

re: #6 jorline

Perhaps they could get some of those flags the McCain people stole in Denver after the Democratic Convention.

//

Afternoon jorline. Not so sure it's good. Wasn't here yesterday so I didn't see the lizard's reaction to the election. I still have a good sized pit in my stomach. How you doin?

re: #10 faraway

I feel much safer now that the Messiah's first pick is a ballerina.

?

Ironically, I took my flag down yesterday. Always will be a patriot at heart but I'm too troubled right now. In contrast to Michelle Obama, I honestly felt a thrill of pride when Condi Rice was named Secretary of State...I don't feel the same pride now...not because of race but because the mindless adoration I see around me creeps me out. I couldn't care less what color Obama is, I care about what's inside his head and his heart and what I've heard and seen gives me worry.

Have no fear however - I intend to conduct myself in stark contrast to the hateful ways of the left...much as I'd like to give them a little payback for the last 8 years of bile and hatred. Time for stout hearts...

I wonder if they've got their Lenin statue sporting Old Glory.

re: #14 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Now THAT is funny.

Maybe it was a tingle

I wonder how far into the future those flags will be flying? I suspect that, like many liberal areas of the country after 9/11, these flags will be used as a feel-good symbol and then quietly put away - or as is more likely the case in these areas, disposed of in the trash with yesterday's NY Times and Chicago Tribune.

While I will always continue to fly my stars and stripes, this flag will be added underneath.

The first time Seattleites are proud of the flag is also the first time an Iranian leader has congratulated the president elect of the U.S.
Hmmm...

My wife just called me about a friends new bumper sticker.

Work Hard, Millions of Obama Supporters Are Depending On You

I'm ashamed of any American would only be proud to be an American when politically convenient. Even with Obama as our next president, I'm still proud to be an American and still have the flag outside my home.

Another stark difference between the left and right. No matter what, the right believes in country first. The left believes in country to the first bidder.

Seattle Fascisites.

It's simple: if you don't like America, leave. Find a place with the freedoms America guarantees in writing.
People sing when they're winning. It won't last, though. There will be another reason why they hate America. Give it time.

Well, moonbats you don't have to worry. Members of the armed forces don't shift allegiances as conveniently as you do. They will cover your right to be discontent through thick and thin.

re: #17 Walter L. Newton

?

Per wiki

Emanuel was encouraged by his mother to take ballet lessons as a boy and is a graduate of the Evanston School of Ballet. He won a scholarship to the Joffrey Ballet but turned it down to attend Sarah Lawrence College, a liberal arts school with a strong dance program.

No problems with ballerinas mind you, but I dont think they will scare our enemies.

re: #18 LGoPs

Ironically, I took my flag down yesterday. Always will be a patriot at heart but I'm too troubled right now. In contrast to Michelle Obama, I honestly felt a thrill of pride when Condi Rice was named Secretary of State...I don't feel the same pride now...not because of race but because the mindless adoration I see around me creeps me out. I couldn't care less what color Obama is, I care about what's inside his head and his heart and what I've heard and seen gives me worry.

My flag flies not for a person but for a country. Always has for the past twenty years.

Have no fear however - I intend to conduct myself in stark contrast to the hateful ways of the left...much as I'd like to give them a little payback for the last 8 years of bile and hatred. Time for stout hearts...

Maybe Bill Ayers waving the flag today too...

sorry charles. just mad.

I enjoyed this bit . . . this is basic, core knowledge to me and they need reminding at the end of a newspaper article.

RESPECTFULLY DISPLAYING THE FLAG
# Display from sunrise to sunset. If shown at night, it should be illuminated.
# The flag should be placed in superior prominence to other flags.
# The union (blue part with stars) should be at the highest position and on the upper left as viewed by the observer. Flags in windows should be placed as if the person on the street is the observer.
# The flag should hang free, not be used to drape something.
# The flag should not touch anything beneath it, such as the ground or water.
# Flags should be clean and not tattered. Worn out flags should be burned.

I guess it's better that they fly it and like it now rather than not.

re: #24 jorline

My wife just called me about a friends new bumper sticker.

Work Hard, Millions of Obama Supporters Are Depending On You

LOL! That should go on the bumper right next to the 1.20.13 sticker!

re: #24 jorline

My wife just called me about a friends new bumper sticker.

Work Hard, Millions of Obama Supporters Are Depending On You

fabulous!

In contrast, I'm still proud to be American, though it makes me sick some other people claim that name as well without really meaning it or understanding what it means.

re: #29 faraway

No problems with ballerinas mind you, but I dont think they will scare our enemies.

Joffery Ballet, that's quite a feet!

re: #16 midwestgak

Afternoon jorline. Not so sure it's good. Wasn't here yesterday so I didn't see the lizard's reaction to the election. I still have a good sized pit in my stomach. How you doin?

Well...thanks, gak. I keeping my head up and holding firm to my values.

Hope you're well today.

The Leftwingers of Seattle are nearly as overjoyed as America's enemies are around the world.

Rosemary Garner is a buffoon.

re: #11 unreconstructed rebel

Summer patriots.

re: #40 Ringo the Gringo

The Leftwingers of Seattle are nearly as overjoyed as America's enemies are around the world.

whats the difference between them?

Isn't that what's called a "flag of convenience?"

re: #39 buzzsawmonkey

their just going to tip toe around it

When the flag represents freedom, liberty, and justice they hate it. When the flag represents socialism, communism, and redistribution of wealth they will salute it. In fact, they will probably make all of us salute their socialism/communism/redistributionism.

re: #11 unreconstructed rebel

So, when did this "I'm an American only when things are just right" shit get started.

When I served my country, LBJ was the President. I hated the son of a bitch. But it was still MY country. And he was my Commander in Chief.

What's this country coming to?

What are we doing in this basket and why is it so warm?

re: #43 bellamags

smell, mainly.

re: #43 bellamags

whats the difference between them?

Our enemies are more well armed than the avarage Seattle moonbat.

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

Cripes.

Display from sunrise to sunset. If shown at night, it should be illuminated. [that does NOT mean fire]

The flag should be placed in superior prominence to other flags. [yes, even the Obama flag, the Che flag, the Palistinian flag and the Communist flag. Sorry, that's the way it is]

The union (blue part with stars [OMG]) should be at the highest position and on the upper left as viewed by the observer. Flags in windows should be placed as if the person on the street is the observer. [assuming you actually live in a house]

The flag should hang free, not be used to drape something. [including but not limited to use as drapes, a couch cover or wrapping around your crappy cat’s scratching post]

The flag should not touch anything beneath it, such as the ground or water. [this means put it up on a pole you morons]

Flags should be clean and not tattered. Worn out flags should be burned. [why do I think you’re going to have lots of worn out flags?]

And additional for liberals:

Do not look directly at the flag. This can cause eye or brain trauma, stomach cramps and nausea, as well as dangerous emotions such as pride and patriotism.

Do not, under any circumstances touch the flag. If you come in contact with the flag, flush the flag’s surface with clean running water and soap and contact a Marine immediately.

I have lived in Seattle for probably 15 years and also in Minnesota for 15 years and have learned one important thing...

Both states have LOONS

They're not proud of America. They're happy that a particular event came to pass.

From a certain perspective, this is very similar to a dog peeing on a fire hydrant or a tree. They are marking what they now see as their territory.

I didn't download it, does their version include the hammer and sickle? No? Why are they still so ashamed of being communists?

(because they haven't completed the takeover. Yet.)

A good friend of mine stated after the Election:"for the first time in a very long time, I feels like I finally understandwhat Lee Greenwood means." (Refering to the song "Good Bless the USA")

And he isnt even from Seattle.

So, can we call 'em jingoistic now?!

re: #31 firedupengineer

Maybe Bill Ayers waving the flag today too...

Footprints and all.

@#%^*&@@!

Fair-weather patriots.

re: #37 Walter L. Newton

Joffery Ballet, that's quite a feet!

You're really on your toes today.

Per VDH, this is a personal attack, not a policy attack. Everyone feel guilty right now.

/is that how this will work?

Yep. I'll be buying lots of Pepto-Bismol over the next four years. Maybe I should buy some stock...

re: #20 faraway

Maybe it was a tingle

I'm hoping it was the early onset of incontinence. (She's only 42.)

Is there a way to display the flag without looking like a supporter of the nonviolent Marxist revolution? I like the Don't Tread On Me idea in comment #22.

I really DONT want to start hanging my flag upside down, but I want to hang the flag. And I don't want the America-hating douche across the street to think I'm hanging it for the same reason that he is hanging his (i'm in NY and this guy began hanging a giant flag in his doorway at 9pm on Election Night - never saw it before and I didn't even know the guy was American citizen... He's actually an Israeli, which is even more ironic).

Ugh.

re: #50 So?

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

Asshole. How about we are not going to walk lock-step with everything that comes down the pike.

If Obama does good (which I hope) then he will get support. There was a healthy lack of support for Bush and even McCain on LGF.

That's what makes this country special, we can have dissent, at least up to now.

re: #24 jorline

My wife just called me about a friends new bumper sticker.

Work Hard, Millions of Obama Supporters Are Depending On You

ROFLMAO!
Can you find out where to get those?!?!

re: #50 So?

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

I'm perfectly happy to have them flying the flag. I fly the flag, too. I'm NOT happy that they will only fly the flag when they get their way.

That's not 'united'.

re: #56 lawhawk

So, can we call 'em jingoistic now?!

Only whites can be racist.
Only capitalists can be greedy.
Only Republicans can be jingoistic.

re: #50 So?

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

Not at the expense of communism. Never.

Take your lame troll sovereigns to the Party grocery and see how many loaves of Peoples bread it purchases.

Wait a minute. They have to print their flags?

These are people devoid of all introspection and irony.

re: #65 pre-Boomer Marine brat

ROFLMAO!
Can you find out where to get those?!?!

I'll find out for you.

Better that they wave the American flag than the group in front of the White House yesterday that was celebrating with the old Soviet Union flag:

re: #67 Gearhead

forgot /sarc

re: #24 jorline

My wife just called me about a friends new bumper sticker.

Work Hard, Millions of Obama Supporters Are Depending On You

OMG! I have to get one of those!

I was almost afraid to click on the link. I thought for sure it was the some variation on Obama's logo...

re: #39 buzzsawmonkey

This is just a signal by Obama that his administration won't be tutu left.

*groan*

re: #50 So?

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

Tell you what...I will treat the LLLs accordingly to how they treat us. Want to be united? Show me.

re: #52 Max Darkside

I have lived in Seattle for probably 15 years and also in Minnesota for 15 years and have learned one important thing...

Both states have LOONS

Are these ancestralNorwegian Loons?

Where is the problem here? This is great news.

It is interesting how the reporting on flag waving has suddenly changed a day or two after however. What was cynically termed "jingoistic" when a Republican was in office, is now termed "patriotic". Not to mention that when a Republican was in office (yes I know he is still in office, but you know what I am saying) not waving a flag, and hating America was "patriotic" but now that a Democrat is getting into office that would be termed Anti-American.

Let the swing in reporting begin.

re: #42 shiek al beif salami

Summer patriots.

Summer patriots run away when the weather get cold, not because of who wins an election. I cannot call these people patriots. (The root of the word is patria (country, or more precisely "fatherland"), not party.)

These people are democrats, or socialists, or greens, or whathaveyou. But Americans? ... ... ... naah.

re: #49 Ringo the Gringo

Our enemies are more well armed than the avarage Seattle moonbat.

Yeah, man but Seattle has better bud.

My bumper sticker

You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows.

re: #38 jorline

Well...thanks, gak. I keeping my head up and holding firm to my values.

Hope you're well today.

Conservative movement marches onward. That helps. LGF does too. And {you}.

re: #50 So?

As long as their idiocy has no impact on my life whatsoever, I am at peace with them.

re: #63 lennysquiggy

Is there a way to display the flag without looking like a supporter of the nonviolent Marxist revolution? I like the Don't Tread On Me idea in comment #22.

I really DONT want to start hanging my flag upside down, but I want to hang the flag. And I don't want the America-hating douche across the street to think I'm hanging it for the same reason that he is hanging his (i'm in NY and this guy began hanging a giant flag in his doorway at 9pm on Election Night - never saw it before and I didn't even know the guy was American citizen... He's actually an Israeli, which is even more ironic).

Ugh.

Please. Don't anyone do that. Fly your flag on Memorial and on Veterans Days at the very least.

Obamanation won't last long.

re: #58 Gearhead

Fair-weather patriots.

Sorry, but fair weather in Seattle goes only from Aug to Oct. Drizzle weather patriots, um, comrades.

OT - sorta - but by the time I posted this on the prior thread, Charles had put this thread up and I fear many of you didn't see it, so I'm reposting it here:

"See, this is the problem I have with VDH's approach.
For eight years now the Left - not just the moonbats, the Left - have savaged George Bush AND America; if it was bad news for America it was good news for the Left.We tried being polite and reaching across the aisle and what we got for it was: worse than nada.
We tried to "fight" in a gentlemanly fashion - following the Marquess of Queensberry rules; in return we got shived, stomped, ganged up on and several other things I simply won't say on Charles blog, in other words the other side fought "dirty".
We have had this situation for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS. Now that those who fought "dirty" and who literally bought this election financially are in power, VDH suggests we keep following the political version of the Marquess of Queensberry rules.
I am going to take some time to think about and re-read all of VDH's column, but I do have to say that I don't particularly feel like throwing a jab and getting kicked in the balls in return every time again, and my initial reaction is to fight with every tool legally available to me - which is more than Obama and his campaign did to John McCain and the American People."

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

Asshole. How about we are not going to walk lock-step with everything that comes down the pike.

If Obama does good (which I hope) then he will get support. There was a healthy lack of support for Bush and even McCain on LGF.

That's what makes this country special, we can have dissent, at least up to now.

Well, he doesn't become the next president until Jan. 20th, so I guess you can continue with tirades until then.

re: #59 MandyManners

You're really on your toes today.

Ot
No, I'm not, I'm pissed right now. I arranged with Deep Rock Water to be at the theatre at around 1:00pm today to drop off our order.

I'm in the fucking shower and they call "We're at the theatre, we have an order to drop off."

No you don't bozo. My actors will just have to drink tap water tonight.

How's you day going?

it's called "fair weather patriotism". they only wave the flag 'cause they're on the "winning team".

re: #49 Ringo the Gringo

Our enemies are more well armed than the avarage Seattle moonbat.

But not as organized

re: #50 So?

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

United under a CBBHO Administration? Are you joking? No way am I gonna' get in lock-step with this shit.

re: #78 Sabnen

Are these ancestralNorwegian Loons?

The Minnesota loons are a different species, Germanic/Nordic and vote for Wrestlers and Commie-dieans. Seattle Loons are of a Californic variety.

re: #86 Max Darkside

Sorry, but fair weather in Seattle goes only from Aug to Oct. Drizzle weather patriots, um, comrades.

Heh. Fair-weather patriots who live in a rain-forest climate.

SEZ IT ALL.

re: #29 faraway

No wonder he's such a hothead; he got teased in school and this is his revenge. Bet he insults military personnel in office too.

Aaand a year from now, we'll see how long this allegedly new-found patriotism lasts. After all, lefties took their flags down a year at most after 9-11.

re: #88 So?

Well, he doesn't become the next president until Jan. 20th, so I guess you can continue with tirades until then.

WTF? According to whom?

Garner, a self-described "flag virgin" ...

We could do something about that.
(better not ... BETTER NOT ... AUUGHHH!)

/1. instant banning ... 2. improper use/desecration of the Flag

The left has discovered its inner patriot? That will last until the moment the sunshine disappears. "Summer soldiers and sunshine patriots", remember?

re: #39 buzzsawmonkey

This is just a signal by Obama that his administration won't be tutu left.

Rush is saying there will be an Obama network i.e. ACORN among others in Washington who will harrass anyone who opposses his proposals. Filing lawsuits to ensure he gets his way. etc. arg.

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

Ot
No, I'm not, I'm pissed right now. I arranged with Deep Rock Water to be at the theatre at around 1:00pm today to drop off our order.

I'm in the fucking shower and they call "We're at the theatre, we have an order to drop off."

No you don't bozo. My actors will just have to drink tap water tonight.

How's you day going?

I'm muddling through, doing laundry, scrubbing bathrooms. The usual.

Whatever.

re: #87 realwest

OT - sorta - but by the time I posted this on the prior thread, Charles had put this thread up and I fear many of you didn't see it, so I'm reposting it here:

"See, this is the problem I have with VDH's approach.
For eight years now the Left - not just the moonbats, the Left - have savaged George Bush AND America; if it was bad news for America it was good news for the Left.We tried being polite and reaching across the aisle and what we got for it was: worse than nada.
We tried to "fight" in a gentlemanly fashion - following the Marquess of Queensberry rules; in return we got shived, stomped, ganged up on and several other things I simply won't say on Charles blog, in other words the other side fought "dirty".
We have had this situation for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS. Now that those who fought "dirty" and who literally bought this election financially are in power, VDH suggests we keep following the political version of the Marquess of Queensberry rules.
I am going to take some time to think about and re-read all of VDH's column, but I do have to say that I don't particularly feel like throwing a jab and getting kicked in the balls in return every time again, and my initial reaction is to fight with every tool legally available to me - which is more than Obama and his campaign did to John McCain and the American People."

I wouldn't fight a Soviet fairly. I won't fight communists in this country fairly either. With honor yes, but not with "fairness."

Wonder if Joan Baez will fly the flag now?

Couldn't she just have gone on Prozac or Wellbutrin like the rest of us? The repercussions of her happiness could destroy the U.S.

re: #59 MandyManners

He's just being a heel.

re: #75 PAgirlinNC

I was almost afraid to click on the link. I thought for sure it was the some variation on Obama's logo...

ME TOO! lol. I was preparing for it. my face was cringed up while the page was loading.

Reminds me of when the Nazis stenciled the swastika on the box containing the ARK In the first Indiana Jones movie. The stars and stripes should not be debased by the handling of anti American morons.

re: #93 Max Darkside

Thanks for clearing it up!

Dow Tumbles 400 Points as Economic Woes Mount Market Realizes an Anti-Capitalist Marxist Elected- AP

/fixed it for them

re: #92 MandyManners

I think he/she wants us to hug these fair weather patriots.

re: #63 lennysquiggy

Hang the Gadsden flag as well. They'll get the message.

Now we can't question their patriotism any more.
/

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And an atomic *whack* upside the head.

This is the first time in my life that I am really afraid for my country.

/dead serious

Are we sure its a US flag and not the Hammer & Sickle?

I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.

~Tom Jefferson

re: #18 LGoPs

I did the exact same thing.

Even funnier (ok, sadder) is that I'm from Seattle (actually born there unlike many of the transplants who have almost succeeded in san franciso-izing it) and I can't stand what it has become. Several years ago the city had banners all over downtown saying things like "do you have a bank account?" "Is there food in your refrigerator?" Guilt, guilt, guilt. It was funded as an "art" project of course.

OT: McCain had better come out HARD denouncing these Palin attacks soon. It's making me pretty unhappy I tell yuh.

re: #50 So?

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

I'm not uniting behind Obamajebus and his plans, if that's what you're asking. I will respect the stupid, emotional, and misguided choice of the voters, but work to undermine him at every turn. You know, just like the Left did for eight years.

re: #100 midwestgak

Rush is saying there will be an Obama network i.e. ACORN among others in Washington who will harrass anyone who opposses his proposals. Filing lawsuits to ensure he gets his way. etc. arg.

Bring. It. On. Republicans have law firms, too.

My next door neighbor (A big obama supporter) never put his flag out for any national holiday-but he has his flag out today-put it out right after victory was declared for the big 0. It's sick.

re: #105 joncelli

He's just being a heel.

I wonder if he'll get instep with the corps de ballet.

re: #16 midwestgak

There were a few bannings, mostly the night of the election. However, I did go downtown, as promised, and came back with an interesting photo essay.

My Adventure in Obamaland (aka Grant Park)

Check out the pig holding the anti-McCain sign.

Will be retiring some flags!
Put up new ones for Veterans Day.
Remove grommets,Fold square,put them back in the original box and bring them to the Scouts office!
They earn badges for the Flag Protocol.
They fold them in presentation ( as in funeral)
And burn them one at a time up at the Elks Lodge fire pit!

re: #113 MandyManners

And an atomic *whack* upside the head.

How about if I just use the flagpole itself? Sans flag?

re: #114 IslandLibertarian

This is the first time in my life that I am really afraid for my country.

/dead serious

I was scared of getting nuked by the Soviets but, this rot will take a greater toll 'cause there is no MAD doctrine with the Left.

re: #120 IgofAntioch

My next door neighbor (A big obama supporter) never put his flag out for any national holiday-but he has his flag out today-put it out right after victory was declared for the big 0. It's sick.

I know many don't see it now, but the covert signals of division fostered by the communists will become evident to all soon. That is to OUR advantage.

re: #114 IslandLibertarian

Not me - I think America is much bigger than this. As long as I can laugh at it, I'm o.k., and I can laugh at this.

Interesting article by Deborah Weiss at FrontPageMagazine today on the 57 Muslim states. Now I know where Barry came up with that number of 57 states in the USA. Man, there is a lot we don't about the man...

re: #65 pre-Boomer Marine brat

ROFLMAO!
Can you find out where to get those?!?!

Here:

[Link: www.zazzle.com...]

:)

re: #117 WitchDoctor

I used to live near Seattle...broke my heart to have to move away. Prettiest place on the planet IMO. Too bad it's so infested with moonbats...

:)

re: #125 MandyManners

I was scared of getting nuked by the Soviets but, this rot will take a greater toll 'cause there is no MAD doctrine with the Left.

Not to mention are enemies are now greater in number and more widespread than the Soviets.

At least they're tiny countries like Iran, though.

//

Look. This is not bad. This is good. Before, you could not tell these people anything about the great parts of the history of our country, because their minds were closed. Now they have at least some openness. It is an opportunity to build.

Let us not go all negative here.

Obama has some opportunities not open to anyone else.

Remember he is half white.

There is an opportunity for national unity opening here.

India discovers the flag.

They love America, but only when they get to be in charge.

And they've decided now it's time to end all the vicious personal attacks and for all of us to come together.

How do you define this? Shallow and immature doesn't cover it.

I've gotten tired of deleting messages that acquaintances have been shotgunning out to their address books, extolling the millennium of the Ø.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.

re: #92 MandyManners

United under a CBBHO Administration? Are you joking? No way am I gonna' get in lock-step with this shit.

OK I think I get the C But what is the extra B for?

re: #123 reloadingisnotahobby

Or, we have retired the colors at scout camp at night, at campfire, with moving and impressive ceremony, and the flags literally go out in a blaze of glory in about 2 seconds.

re: #129 mama winger

Here:

[Link: www.zazzle.com...]

:)

THANKS!

#85:

Yeah, I hear ya. What if we started hanging the original Betsy Ross flag? I'm really serious about finding a way to express Patriotism and support for the country while letting the Obamatons know that they are not good Americans.

What do you think? Betsy Ross link below:

[Link: www.united-states-flag.com...]

re: #132 Ojoe

Look. This is not bad. This is good. Before, you could not tell these people anything about the great parts of the history of our country, because their minds were closed. Now they have at least some openness. It is an opportunity to build.

Let us not go all negative here.

Obama has some opportunities not open to anyone else.

Remember he is half white.

There is an opportunity for national unity opening here.

With all respect...their minds are still closed. Leftists have a proctologists view of the United States and always will...IMO

re: #138 pre-Boomer Marine brat

THANKS!

You are very welcome. :)

re: #134 jaybird

It is defined as an opportunity in my estimation.

re: #141 mama winger

You are very welcome. :)

{mama}, how are you doing today regarding the family tragedy?

re: #134 jaybird

They love America, but only when they get to be in charge.

And they've decided now it's time to end all the vicious personal attacks and for all of us to come together.

How do you define this? Shallow and immature doesn't cover it.

you define it as "the rules are whatever the f**k we say they are"...

re: #127 shiek al beif salami

Not me - I think America is much bigger than this. As long as I can laugh at it, I'm o.k., and I can laugh at this.

Be careful, they lock people away in padded rooms who laugh all the time.

re: #136 fish

OK I think I get the C But what is the extra B for?

Communist Bastard?

re: #143 pre-Boomer Marine brat

{mama}, how are you doing today regarding the family tragedy?

We are still awaiting word from the Chicago coroner. No news yet. It's hard. Thanks for asking, I appreciate it.

"I kinda sorta don't hate America today. It feels so weeeird."

re: #103 Sol Roth
Hey Sol - I saw your post yesterday about me and mom voting and wanted to thank you. It was one of the kindest things anyone has EVER said about me (which, of course, be reflective of who I am!) out here on LGF, but it was moving and touching and Mom and I thank you for it SO MUCH.

re: #149 realwest

heya realwest :)

HEY! It's the People's Democractic Republic of Seattle. I wonder if it is as well lit as its sister city, Pyongyang?

re: #118 RememberSekhmet? Spot on - sort of a refined - much refined, I must say - post of what I said in my #87 above!

Leftists are only patriotic when their leftist leaders are at the helm.
Otherwise, America sucks.

Suddenly - those shameful nationalistic "patriotic songs" we sing as a nation - seem OK. Now that Obama is in.

re: #150 mama winger
I wasn't aware you suffered a loss in your Family!
I and Mrs. Loader give you our prayers and hope for comfort
in your hour of need !
Loader

my flag flys upside down at the end of my driveway. the country will be in distress for a minimum of 2 years, as will the flag re: #30 RightLogic

re: #153 FrogMarch

Leftists are only patriotic when their leftist leaders are at the helm.
Otherwise, America sucks.

Suddenly - those shameful nationalistic "patriotic songs" we sing as a nation - seem OK. Now that Obama is in.

Can't wait to see some patriotic "GOOGLE" images coming up.

re: #13 trryhin

42 years old and:

“This is the first day in my life I actually feel this funny sense of pride about my country. It’s a very foreign feeling, but it’s a good one.”

Good grief.

I guess they think the ending of slavery, WWII, etc. was nothing. Only pride if it happens in their life time. These people make me sick.

This is akin to the Clinton aide that complained when the Air Force practiced a flyover that the military was trying to horn in on their celebration. Another aide corrected her saying "those are OUR jets now."

It's their flag now.

re: #150 mama winger
{Mama} - I meant every word of what I said to Sol.
Mom read it and actually got teary eyed over it.
How are you holding up?
I keep TRYING SO HARD to let my emotions cool down after watching my beloved America being bought by Obama and his $600 + million dollars, but it is taking a LOT longer than I thought to cool down.

re: #155 apachegunner

my flag flys upside down at the end of my driveway. the country will be in distress for a minimum of 2 years, as will the flag

This is about the fourth time I've seen a reference to "2 years"...I have clearly missed some key post...can you help me with my ignorance ;-) ?

my screen saver is now an upside down flag also

re: #90 mojo9

Three things:

The Seattleite response should be more rightly termed Democratism, instead of patriotism, insofar that they only love the Country when their guy is in office.

Second, I'm glad they are finally proud of the U.S., I'm sorry the Civil Rights movement, giving women the right to vote, WW2, WW1, Korea, Operation Desert Storm, and the billions we give away to charity wasn't enough, but voting in a Black man to POTUS was all they needed.

Third, and most importantly, we must work hard to make sure that we don't do what they did.

re: #139 lennysquiggy

re: #139 lennysquiggy

I flew the Bennington Flag out in "the box". It's the one with the "76" in the union, with the stars arched over it. I flew it from a 25' guy-stayed radio mast, and it looked great.

They never loved America. They just like the actual dirt and rocks that it sits on, and think it is a good place to put their Utopia.

Of course that involves changing everything that makes America America, but they're pretty sure they started on that road.

re: #160 eschew_obfuscation

This is about the fourth time I've seen a reference to "2 years"...I have clearly missed some key post...can you help me with my ignorance ;-) ?

Midterm elections!
Throw the bastids out!

re: #160 eschew_obfuscation
that would be the next chance to vote out the clowns, at least senators and congressmen/women

re: #165 reloadingisnotahobby

Midterm elections!
Throw the bastids out!

ahh...o.k...thanks!

re: #149 realwest

Hey Sol - I saw your post yesterday about me and mom voting and wanted to thank you. It was one of the kindest things anyone has EVER said about me (which, of course, be reflective of who I am!) out here on LGF, but it was moving and touching and Mom and I thank you for it SO MUCH.

I meant every word. Your family is America to me.

re: #63 lennysquiggy

As a suggestion, you could always purchase one of these. I have one and fly it with my traditional American flag. People ask me what it is, and I tell them. They usually say "Wow, that's great," or they say nothing at all:
[Link: www.freedomflagfoundation.org...]

re: #156 NC State of Mind

Can't wait to see some patriotic "GOOGLE" images coming up.

Good point. Google will assuredly discover the joys of displaying a flag on patriotic holidays - Holidays that were disgusting under Bush.

Hiya RW, hows things?

re: #160 eschew_obfuscation

This is about the fourth time I've seen a reference to "2 years"...I have clearly missed some key post...can you help me with my ignorance ;-) ?

Mid term elections go our way if Obama screws up as bad as Clinton did in his first two years.

re: #50 So?

Man, I can't believe you guys. Do you want a united country or don't you? Aren't you all Americans? Is divisiveness going to be LGF's new creed?

Isn't it amazing that the left did nothing but bash bash bash for 8 years, and now they are suddenly proud of their flag and want us to unite! I can't tell you how many forums have the same lines, let's unite, we are one country now! We were one country before, but apparently half of us didn't notice.

re: #33 Sabnen

I enjoyed this bit . . . this is basic, core knowledge to me and they need reminding at the end of a newspaper article.

RESPECTFULLY DISPLAYING THE FLAG
# Display from sunrise to sunset. If shown at night, it should be illuminated.
# The flag should be placed in superior prominence to other flags.
# The union (blue part with stars) should be at the highest position and on the upper left as viewed by the observer. Flags in windows should be placed as if the person on the street is the observer.
# The flag should hang free, not be used to drape something.
# The flag should not touch anything beneath it, such as the ground or water.
# Flags should be clean and not tattered. Worn out flags should be burned.

I guess it's better that they fly it and like it now rather than not.

At least they know what to do with all the old, worn out flags.

re: #174 VioletTiger
we are all americans except those who are unamerican

re: #155 apachegunner
Hey guns! With respect, please do NOT fly our flag upsided down at all - NO.
America was bought - or perhaps more accurately rented on November 4th by the Dems, but they can't take America away from us without our at least putting up a fight - they want to fly the flag, fine.
But I no longer associate with Obama supporters and have taken to going to businesses that didn't have Obama signs in their windows (my dry cleaner is one of them - and I told him why I was taking my business elsewhere and thought he would appreciate it cause I've told all my friends the same thing and with any luck at all he won't get make enough profit to have to pay higher taxes).
But IMO, flying the flag upside down for these reasons is as disprectful of America as is Obama.

So, patriotism will become okay?

My family and I were trying to come up with silver linings...

1. homelessness is over (no more stories about it)
2. natural disasters no longer blamed on the president

can you think of any more?

Wow I am so glad to almost not be discussing BHO or JSM anymore, and getting back to bigger issues.

link dump

Nationalist Jewish Parties In Israel (you know those that the MSM, and Liberals like to state want to murder Arabs...) Court The Arab Vote.

Ehud Barack proves that he doesn't understand what the heck is going on...states that a Truce is maintained even though their is violence.

Hamas Charities Teach Children To Live In Peace With Israelis n Palestine...oh wait, no they don't they instead Teach Them To Kill JEWS

re: #151 Elcid

HEY! It's the People's Democractic Republic of Seattle. I wonder if it is as well lit as its sister city, Pyongyang?

"[That's] Seattle, where people are just too damn weird for California." (Glenn Beck)

re: #177 realwest
awww Real, I gotta disagree with you here and I never do that. My flag is in "distress" and it flys in that manner, and if this is the country that 52 percent want then I am a true minority and a rebel as well.

re: #158 Rancher
Sorry Rancher - but that Flag isn't THEIR flag - not when every generation of realwest's family has had at least one member fighting - and some dying - for it.
We are the true patriots - they are fair weather patriots.
Never forget what that Flag truly represents.

I live in Seattle now, but grew up in a small town in Idaho. I lived in Alaska for 11 years and Texas for 5. My in-laws are liberal, so I have a duel perspective on things. The liberals don't get conservatives, and the people here just assume everyone is a liberal, because they are living in a bubble.

re: #168 Sol Roth
Thank you.

Remember:
Hippies Smell.

they have sanctimoniously reclaimed the flag but it doesn't mean the same thing to them as it does to us. this is a power play.
this is nothing more than a childish obnoxious flag grab. ridiculous.
they don't know anything abt. waving it high and respecting what it truly stands for.
libs don't get the gist of patriotism. and they won't be long enamored of the flag.
look how many were discarded after the dem convention.

the american flag is not a fad.

re: #150 mama winger
Hey {mama} - did you suffer a loss in your family? I haven't heard about it! If you'd rather not post about it, PLEASE e-mail me, ok?

I wonder if they can or will recite the "Pledge of Allegiance?"

re: #10 faraway

I feel much safer now that the Messiah's first pick is a ballerina.

Yeah, but the new administration is going to have to spend the next four years tap dancing.

re: #181 apachegunner
Well, you go your own way as usual, all I can do is say that it's not something I'd ever do; it's akin to turning your back on America as far as I'm concerned.

Remember the "nuclear option" that we could have used against Dems when they filibustered our judges? Moderates said, "No we can't do this because if the Dem's get in power they will use it against us!" Dumb asses, they will use it anyway. The Dems know how to use power, we don't.

re: #191 Rancher

The Dems know how to use power, we don't.

That's why McCain's "reaching across the aisle"...didn't resonate.

re: #176 apachegunner

we are all americans except those who are unamerican

/Yogi Berra

re: #178 the other Amy

So, patriotism will become okay?

My family and I were trying to come up with silver linings...

1. homelessness is over (no more stories about it)
2. natural disasters no longer blamed on the president

can you think of any more?

3. Racism will never be discussed again, because Obama is black (unless you point out that this is oxymoronic, because you will be called racist).
4. The more we become like our enemies, the more they will like us.
5. Major newspapers will have to fire the 99% of their staff whose only expertise is in smearing the President on a daily basis.
6. Money saved from disbanding our military and nuclear deterrance can be spent on rebuilding major cities after annual terrorist attacks.
7. Stock in teleprompter companies will go through the roof.
8. Exciting new NASA programs of inestimable value to science, like the nation's first sub-8 mile nonorbital rocket powered by dandelion sprouts and the dreams of children, and "First Drum Circle On The Moon"
9. Joe Biden not getting any younger.
10. Somewhere out there, right now, there's a competent, intelligent man or woman mortally offended by a socialist President, and for the first time seriously considering running for President themselves.

Great job, Diamond Bullet...
I especially liked #5 and #10

Seriously,

Rampant negativity and vile comments reduce lizards to the level of the Kos Kidz. We really should avoid this. Like it or not, we have a new CiC as of 20 January, and the office deserves the respect of the citizenry. We are BETTER than this. Immediately starting in a ODS mode only plays into the hands of those who hate the conservative movement. Remember it is in part the civility that makes us great.

There is an excellent chance that the president-elect is sincere in wanting to do genuine good for this country (even though most of us probably disagree with the methods). I suggest that we pull together, and work with what we have. Propaganda aside, we should give him a chance- at least until a cabinet is chosen (which will be THE telling detail).

IF a proper represenative and responsible cabinet is selected, and IF the "socialsist-branded" posters, logos, and images IMMEDIATELY go away, there may be real hope that this will work out. There have been no riots, and the international third world response is mostly joyous BECAUSE in confirms the American ideal that even the son of a poor third-world immigrant can become president of the greatest nation on the planet. Do I think that it will it be business as usual? Definitely not. Do I think that it will be the end of the world? Also definitely not.

We survived the Franklin D. Roosevelt and Johnson administrations, and we eventually became greater for them.

Besides, if it really goes the way that the fearmongers worry about, there's always the midterms in 2010. Remember, even if this turns out to be another Carter administration, that only lasted four years and brought us Ronald Reagan for eight.

I served under the Clinton administration, I can serve under this one.

Chill.

I, for one, will welcome my new government run healthcare experience.
/

re: #24 jorline

My wife just called me about a friends new bumper sticker.
Work Hard, Millions of Obama Supporters Are Depending On You

Terrific bumper sticker! I'd like one of those, too.

re: #191 Rancher

Remember the "nuclear option" that we could have used against Dems when they filibustered our judges? Moderates said, "No we can't do this because if the Dem's get in power they will use it against us!" Dumb asses, they will use it anyway. The Dems know how to use power, we don't.

The true wild card here is the media. They are a megaphone - amplifying with an endless drumbeat what they approve of and also a black hole - squelching anything they disapprove of. I believe it was Evan Thomas (NewsWeek?) who estimated that power was worth 15 points in elections. I don't know how you fight this power. I do know that the leftist skew and open taking of sides is dangerous to the Republic...

Dear Jinxmedic.

I am sometimes slow to catch on to jokes...

Is this a joke?

"I, for one, will welcome my new government run healthcare experience."

You must be kidding...right?

re: #199 the other Amy

there was a "/" after that last comment...

Sorry...

re: #201 the other Amy

No problem! :-)

re: #114 IslandLibertarian

This is the first time in my life that I am really afraid for my country.

/dead serious

Well, actually I was really afraid for my country during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Another test of a new and inexperienced president. And we now know that we came a lot closer than anyone realized at the time.

So... does the new seattle flag have all 57 states on it?

those freaks need to go thru some Cubscout 101 training. It was MY America when Clinton was in Office and it is still my America with BHO in office.

re: #75 PAgirlinNC

I was almost afraid to click on the link. I thought for sure it was the some variation on Obama's logo...

It was.

Paper Flags, paper Patriots...

#170 CascadeMermaid:

Good call. Thanks for the tip - I hadn't seen that flag.

They're just now realizing that? This has always been my America, too. To borrow from Commodore Decature: she's my country, right or wrong.

How do you "rediscover" something you've never acknowledged?

re: #29 faraway
No problems with ballerinas mind you, but I dont think they will scare our enemies.

It's not our enemies anymore it's their enemies. I suspect we might be them. Or them there. Besides a ballerina with a steak knife in his sock is a nasty ballerina, one worth watching.

Having lived in the Seattle environs 4 times over the course of my career, I can honestly say that I have learned to love the city but not the citizens. A more liberal bunch I have never met. Unfortunately, though, this article could have been written in any large city in the nation. City dwellers are just different. I also found it insightful, but not surprising, that the reporter never seemed to question these people's thoughts or actions. To him/her their actions were normal.

re: #196 the jinxmedicWow. I mean really,WOW

It's easy to be patriotic when you're winning.

I loved my country before loving my country was cool.

re: #196 the jinxmedic

Good job. I agree.

If I didn't live here, I might be surprised.

re: #212 J Doc

I also found it insightful, but not surprising, that the reporter never seemed to question these people's thoughts or actions. To him/her their actions were normal.

Colorado, of all places is going this way. The Zombie blog has an essay posted 10/15, entitled The Left's Big Error, or something like that. Read it and find mention of the Ascher experiment. Fascinating stuff. Normative conformity and all. Thirty five years ago, in high school sociology, the teacher decided that this would be a decent lesson. He reconfigured the method; in our case the victim was the entire class. The plants were three guys. I was lucky to be one of them. It worked as described. Pretty scary, it was, to think that the great majority of the group followed our bullshit, for no visible reason, over and over. I do think that people don't just cope with a dominant meme, or norm or whatever, they tend to adopt it as their own, and anything that contradicts it flies right by their consciousness. News agencies help disseminate this crap. There are Seattles and Chicagos growing like fungus in every state.

I think this thing was orchestrated. I overhead my Obama supporting co-workers yesterday all talking about flags and what it means to fly one. And the rules for doing it. I didn't make the connection til this AM.

the office is small business. Like 20 obama drones per 2 McCain regular citizens.

And today a few of them watched the Fox clips on youtube bashing Gov. Palin. There was a loud discussion about how much of an idiot she is, that even McCain thought she was bad. i almost interupted it. But that's my job. These people can't fathom that anyone wouldn't support Obama.

Word on the street says the city of Berkeley, California will also start hanging lots of American flags in public. Problem is, all of the stars on the flag will be replaced by 50 little faces of Obama.

Are these ancestralNorwegian Loons?>

They're African swallows.

No. European.

YAAA
A
A
A!

And as for Obama, he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty... person.

Let Seattle have its fun. After all, they chased away their basketball team.

Dear Seattle liberals:

F* you, you unpatriotic, morality-destroying, spineless tree-hugging dummocrat pansies!

Take your pathetic, fake-ass version of "patriotism" and shove it where the sun don't shine.

/man, that felt good

For anyone else out there in LGF land who is currently at a loss for words, this should help.

/crude... but strangely therapeutic

There is nothing wrong with malcontents finding their way to be patriots, regardless of how they got there.

re: #31 firedupengineer

Maybe Bill Ayers waving the flag today too...

When Bill Ayers waves a flag he has to be careful not to light his hair on fire.

Can someone tell me where the new hammer-sickle and strips are being sold?

I'm still keeping the one that's been hanging in my window for the last 7 years though. It will be worth a lot on ebay in a few years, Dear Leaders new re-designs and all.

Remember Ronald Reagan said, "Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15."

I plan to use this opportunity to explain to some liberal friends about how I feel. They are very excited and just as proud of the USA now because of Obama. But if I asked them if they were proud of their country before Obama was running, they would have definitely said no. They probably would've said they were ashamed.

But now I have the opportunity to tell that the way they are feeling now, full of pride of their country is the way I always feel about our country. Every time I hear the National Anthem played at any event, my heart fills with pride and joyful emotion. And I listen to the words of our Anthem,

"O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

The song is about our flag. The flag that represents our country. The flag that we pledge allegiance to. "We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which is stands." We don't pledge allegiance to any single person. We pledge our allegiance to the republic, and the ideas and principles that it was founded on.

Those principles were recognized by our Founding Fathers and immortalized in the words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, they they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This years election is another in a very long list of achievements this country has attained. And for that it makes me proud. And when President-Elect Obama takes the oath on January 20th, and he swears,

"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Then he becomes this country's President. He becomes our President. He becomes my President.

And if I feel he is not fulfilling his sworn duty to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, I will respectfully voice my dissent.

Rise above. Remember our principals.

Any post election display of patriotism by liberals is strictly victory euphoria. They won, they captured the flag, they'll toss it away as soon as the euphoria wears off, Rosemary Garner will go back to not having pride in her country and not caring to own a flag.

my flag flys upside down at the end of my driveway. the country will be in distress for a minimum of 2 years, as will the flag re: #30 RightLogic

Hah! Never thought of that. Thanks, I'm going to turn mine over right now.

I will be forever grateful to my patriotic parents and degree in history that I do not think like "Rosemary".

Think I'll fly my flag upside down too! Thanks EZ and Right Logic!

Greetings from Seattle...This article is ridiculous even for the local fish wrap. Americans in their 30's and 40's who have not had a sense of pride in the USA until now? Wow, these are certainly some folks i want to hang out with...It must be such a hard thing to live in the most prosperous, affluent, respected country in the history of mankind...

But then again they are liberals, give them 6 months and the flags will be in the garbage cause we all know liberals are inherently unhappy...

Reminds of the Iowahawk bit a while back about the kooks whose pitch was a promise to be not be such a--holes if the ONE were elected.

Heck, on the bright side, we can start hearing good news about our economy (whatever the truth is at any given time). And just think of all the feel-good, patriotic movies that will be coming to a theater near you. Happy days are here again.

Mindless Blue State patriotism...

/condescension

One positive point on a newly acquired flag waving, it may encourage a sense of country and unity. In fact, the newly acquired, at long last, display will be researched for appropriate usage. The may be able to answer some flag history facts which they never learned at school. Who knows this may lead to reading the U.S. Constitution. Then we can discuss the roles of government.

It isn't losing an election that is hard to take, but the fact that logical debate over differences seems to be devoid of anything but talking points. When asked how will it be paid for or be done, the conversation tends to dry up, or end abruptly.

Is it to much to ask that voters be somewhat factually informed?

I, for one, will not give into the "derangement syndromes" of the left. Not that as some are saying devoid of vitriol where well deserved.

Regroup and continue the mission...

The great unwashed await you.

Khaaa...THoupphh
Despicable pseudo-patriots.

They proably stockpiled flags to burn if McCain got in.

They can't help it...Very wet up there, their brains get moldy.

re: #225 right Brain

re: #235 Pepper

I agree with you both.

And there are too many negative comments on this thread.

This victory by Obama, as much as some here are dismayed by his leftist leanings, is an unprecedented opportunity for national unity; remember Obama is half white too.

He will have to govern more from the center anyway, or he will be out in 4 years.

Let us hope he does an excellent job, and let's not make his task any harder by indulging in pissy attitudes.

The day after Obama won the election, the most liberal couple in our neighborhood hung an American Flag. I also saw a flag hanging in a very liberal coffee shop today. I am encouraged. I would like to believe that patriotism does not exclusively belong to the conservatives.

Even though I think they are idiots, I'd like to believe they are deep down patriotic.