A Post-Racial Era?
This is the dawning of the Age of Post-Racialism! We’re healed!
Oh, wait.
Maybe not: Obama win does not end racism, activists say.
This is the dawning of the Age of Post-Racialism! We’re healed!
Oh, wait.
Maybe not: Obama win does not end racism, activists say.
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Irene NYC Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:31:14pm |
G-d, they're gonna milk racism for all they can til the cows come home...
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Lee Coller Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:31:28pm |
Of course not, if it did, they'd be out of a job.
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obageegee Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:31:42pm |
Ok this has to be the biggest oxymoron of the day
‘Obama is going to raise the level of intelligence,’ says Roseanne Barr
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:31:45pm |
re: #2 Irene NYC
G-d, they're gonna milk racism for all they can til the cows come home...
And the cows ain't coming home.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:32:21pm |
Activists have no intention of actually accomplishing their goals.
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RoughRider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:33:27pm |
The One is gifted with the ability to heal human hearts through his most gracious benevolence and providing. There will be no poverty, no discomfort, no strife, no war, and no racism under his divine leadership.
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:33:34pm |
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Haole Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:33:56pm |
That would be like pricing your own product out of the market.
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IslandLibertarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:34:01pm |
Why yes, for gawds sake, to reach the utopia of equality we must keep the image of racism alive!
/get with the program crackers!
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Lee Coller Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:34:21pm |
re: #6 mama winger
Activists have no intention of actually accomplishing their goals.
You mean their goals of getting rich off of "racial inequality"?
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:34:24pm |
re: #4 obageegee
Ok this has to be the biggest oxymoron of the day
‘Obama is going to raise the level of intelligence,’ says Roseanne Barr
Starting with Roseanne Barr
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:34:27pm |
What good is a Messiah if he can't do squat?
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:35:07pm |
re: #12 Lee Coller
You mean their goals of getting rich off of "racial inequality"?
Or the goal of getting to the White House, nothing else, just getting to the White House
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:35:16pm |
Until they address the sexism in the campaign ...they can kiss this womans ass ...the dems only said they were for womans rights ...fooled me for too long ...racist = bad ...sexist = okay ...
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blueroom127 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:35:24pm |
You know what would actually end inequality?
If the local elected officials (democrats) that black and hispanic people have been voting for for decades actually did something to improve the lives of their constituents.
Amazing concept right?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:35:46pm |
re: #14 mama winger
What good is a Messiah if he can't do squat?
Hey Mama! Honestly? I'm hoping he can't do much.
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rawmuse Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:36:01pm |
Why do I get the mental picture of Eddie Murphy in Mr. Rogers outfit saying "keeel my landlord"?
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:36:16pm |
But some analysts fear Obama's win could actually undermine efforts to tackle inequality between blacks and whites
IMPEACH OBAMA!
In the name of racial equality!
/
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x-wing Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:36:45pm |
All that Hopey-changey is joining everything else Obama down in the memory hole.
/there will be buyers' remorse.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:36:56pm |
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:37:15pm |
re: #15 outsidephilly
Or the goal of getting to the White House, nothing else, just getting to the White House
Its a bit like sending a man to the moon, the cahallenge is there, an almost unattainable goal and then success.
After that, the question "Now what?"
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:37:25pm |
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:37:40pm |
re: #26 Charles
It's those racist bitter clingers, being racists!
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:37:45pm |
But some analysts fear Obama's win could actually undermine efforts to tackle inequality between blacks and whites [...]Chuck D, regarded by many as the godfather of politically-conscious rap music, said Obama's election could radically change the debate about race in the United States but in some ways could be unhealthy.
So Chuck D is an "analyst"?
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rawmuse Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:37:50pm |
re: #26 Charles
Meanwhile, the Dow is plunging.
Must be that "fundamental change" we have been hearing so much about.
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krypto Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:37:51pm |
Every time I check the CNN website, or any other major news source, now that racism has ended, I keeps seeing nothing except continuous non-stop Race-in-your-Face. Even Fox isn't completely immune to this.
The word "historical" has now become a code term for "that which is related to the black guy getting elected."
Will this continue for four to eight years?
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:37:53pm |
re: #26 Charles
Meanwhile, the Dow is plunging.
'Get out while you can.' There's a lot of that going around.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:11pm |
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:15pm |
re: #28 A Kiwi Infidel
Its a bit like sending a man to the moon, the cahallenge is there, an almost unattainable goal and then success.
After that, the question "Now what?"
Or better yet, "Ya want me to do WHAT?"
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maddogg Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:19pm |
You know these asswipes are creating a whole new generation of racists with their idiot tactics.
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Pyrocles Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:24pm |
They'd have no reason to be activists, then. I bet Rev. Wright is really Goddamming America now... His schtick is gone :(
re: #6 mama winger
Activists have no intention of actually accomplishing their goals.
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Max Darkside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:26pm |
re: #4 obageegee
Ok this has to be the biggest oxymoron of the day
‘Obama is going to raise the level of intelligence,’ says Roseanne Barr
Easy for her to say.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:33pm |
re: #31 Occasional Reader
"politically conscious" rap music...what a concept.
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Opinionated Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:43pm |
Racism can't be over.
What would Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and the Congressional Black Caucus do all day.
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jcm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:38:55pm |
re: #33 rawmuse
Must be that "fundamental change" we have been hearing so much about.
The Marxist dream...
Equal distribution of misery.
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:03pm |
re: #38 maddogg
You know these asswipes are creating a whole new generation of racists with their idiot tactics.
And that is getting SO annoying!
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Querent Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:08pm |
re: #39 Pyrocles
They'd have no reason to be activists, then. I bet Rev. Wright is really Goddamming America now... His schtick is gone :(
where do i ship this keg of freshly-brewed STFU to those guys?
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:10pm |
re: #26 Charles
Meanwhile, the Dow is plunging.
It's those greedy Wall Street bankers! They are rejecting the message of Hope and Change.
GUARDS! SEIZE THEM!
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MandyManners Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:14pm |
Do they just want all whites to up and kill themselves?
*drive-by*
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:23pm |
re: #42 Opinionated
Before or after they cut Obama's nuts off?
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:28pm |
But one thing it does change is a state of mind ... African Americans have been citizens for ... (generations ) but there is a real sense now that all things are possible," said Roberts.
All things will not be possible until 'they' have a canidate that does not take advantage of blacks and prop them up as a priveleged underclass. Obama is going to end up damaging the lives of blacks more that any other president. Is the average (poor) black person thinking all things are possible in the sense of hard work and achievement leading to personal success now that Obama is in office? Or are they thinking all things are possible in the sense that the fruits of previous hard work are now going to be shared with them?
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:29pm |
Posted already? Outrageous video of North Carolina school teacher, challenging a minority (by that I mean white, in her class) kid because her parents support McCain.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:32pm |
Part of me, the wicked part, is going to enjoy the looks on these dummies faces as their balloon bursts.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:35pm |
re: #17 jcm
Can you say...
R...E...P...A...R...A...T...I...O...N... S
jcm -
Were it to happen, in 10 - 20 years if not less the $ would be gone. At least will have been spent here in the USA.
-S-
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Salem Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:39:35pm |
Well, I'll just pretend it's the beginning of the post-racial era until someone gets in my face about it.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:00pm |
re: #49 MandyManners
That would be ever so thoughtful!
And maybe the uppity Jews of Israel could just throw themselves into the sea?
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:19pm |
re: #42 Opinionated
Racism can't be over.
What would Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and the Congressional Black Caucus do all day.
I think they need to do away with the Black Caucus ...why do they need it now ...really I am not joking ...
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:23pm |
Not sure what more they want. Our president-to-be's father was African, a result of a relationship between a black man and a white woman. Obama's more African-American than most black people in America. Obama won decisively with 43% of the white vote. Do we have to pick some random black guy out of a slum in Philly and assign him president without a vote to make you happy?
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:30pm |
If we're beyond racism, why was every headline yesterday all about his race?
When American history was made Tuesday, the much-maligned media responded.No sooner was Barack Obama elected the first black president of the United States than newspapers around the country fired up their presses and cranked out millions of extra copies.
With headlines like "Obama Sweeps to Historic Victory,"
It's all about feeling good about not being racist, except all they can think about is race.
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:30pm |
re: #49 MandyManners
Do they just want all whites to up and kill themselves?
*drive-by*
now, now . . . , let's not act too hastily
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:41pm |
But some analysts fear Obama's win could actually undermine efforts to tackle inequality between blacks and whites
By the way, kids, remember, there are only two kinds of Americans: Blacks, and whites. The pundits say so, and they're, like, really smart n' stuff.
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gop_patriot Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:45pm |
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:47pm |
re: #49 MandyManners
Do they just want all whites to up and kill themselves?
*drive-by*
One more before I go.
Mandy, probably not kill themselves but I am sure there plenty who would like to assist, now that they have "Their Man" in the big house.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:48pm |
re: #26 Charles
Meanwhile, the Dow is plunging.
Charles -
"...Plunging?..." Where is Joe the Plumber when you need him.
-S-
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Querent Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:55pm |
re: #57 WriterMom
That would be ever so thoughtful!
And maybe the uppity Jews of Israel could just throw themselves into the sea?
"drop dead and don't bounce"
/// (free sarc tags)
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:40:57pm |
re: #56 Salem
Well, I'll just pretend it's the beginning of the post-racial era until someone gets in my face about it.
Already happened to me. So I'm done with that whole thing.
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lifeofthemind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:41:18pm |
Is anyone going to be so naive as to admit they didn't see this coming? The election of BHO is just the end of the beginning slouching towards the beginning of the end.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:41:21pm |
re: #18 blueroom127
Or perhaps that their constituents decided to IMPROVE THEIR OWN LIVES?
/racist of me
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:41:31pm |
Activists can't let racism die, it's their bread and buter.
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rawmuse Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:41:31pm |
I've had 3 "F--- you, whitey"s since last Tuesday night.
Change!
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:41:34pm |
as I said last night, as a white, over 40, college educated, heterosexual, non-disabled, male...I have hereby relinguished all clam to the title of "The Man."
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:41:40pm |
re: #49 MandyManners
Do they just want all whites to up and kill themselves?
*drive-by*
Kill ourselves via drive-bys? No, you've got the wrong racial steretype.
/rimshot
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:42:05pm |
Obama could not have been elected without racism.
He cannot maintain his power base without racism.
I don't think America has turned a corner.
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:42:07pm |
OT:
Miclelle Obama:
Obama has spoken to Bush, and Michelle Obama spoke on Wednesday to Laura Bush about the role of the first lady and asked her for guidance in preparing, aides said.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
Even the 1st lady doesn't know what to do.
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:42:07pm |
re: #49 MandyManners
Do they just want all whites to up and kill themselves?
*drive-by*
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
In college a black friend and myself both agreed things would be exponentially better with our generation. Now I'm not so sure.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:42:16pm |
re: #22 rightside
Just got that from HA. Watch it and shake your head too.
Sorry for copying you (downthread) - didn't see your link.
I am offically sick to my stomach. I personally feel the need to do what I can to ruin this woman's teaching career.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:42:20pm |
re: #63 Occasional Reader
So, that means that the inequality is: GREY.
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:42:28pm |
re: #59 bosforus
Not sure what more they want. Our president-to-be's father was African, a result of a relationship between a black man and a white woman. Obama's more African-American than most black people in America. Obama won decisively with 43% of the white vote. Do we have to pick some random black guy out of a slum in Philly and assign him president without a vote to make you happy?
who is "you"
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hazzyday Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:42:55pm |
Obama has to lead beyond race or be a small minded leader.
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:07pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever again.
That's what is going on around my area, also!
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Querent Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:15pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
:: sigh :: rudeness is not its own excuse...
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:26pm |
And I was so looking forward to the Jackson/Sharpton retirement party.
You have to admit, that would make a great commercial for Monster.com; having Jackson filling out a resume and posting it online.
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BeyondBrooklyn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:33pm |
Finally, Chris Matthews is honest.
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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snowbunnybutt Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:35pm |
as I said before now I am getting racial slurs (post election) I emailed one of the people who were spreading the hate and she said and I quote "WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON US FOR SO LONG THAT I BELIEVE ITS TIME FOR A PAY BACK." I am not trying to spread hate, but this is the first time I have had this happen. My dad helped her dad get into our town goverment, without pay I might add. So what have I ever done to her. Since then her daddy has paid for quite a few goodies for her. He got elected. I am friends with Alfonzo [Link: www.youtube.com...] for those who don't know him, and he gave me great advice. I won't post here because it was a private email, but he made great sense. As always.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:47pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
In college a black friend and myself both agreed things would be exponentially better with our generation. Now I'm not so sure.
Horrible.
Did you watch the video of the teacher in Nort Carolina, browbeating the kid whose parents support McCain? The child's father is in the military.
Is there something that can be done about this?
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:51pm |
re: #63 Occasional Reader
But some analysts fear Obama's win could actually undermine efforts to tackle inequality between blacks and whites
And it is hard to keep claiming you are being oppressed when you run the joint.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:43:57pm |
Last night on John Gibson's radio show, he had a black, whitey hatin' co-host. Don't know why, but, thinking they must have made a bet.
Anyway, guy was beyond the pale racist. Over the top.
Related the election of Barack Obama having the same significance on "Black America" as handing a homeless guy fifty cents.
John was honoring a bet, but I could tell, he was about to throw him out on his ass.
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:44:04pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
In college a black friend and myself both agreed things would be exponentially better with our generation. Now I'm not so sure.
Where's the cite for the back up of the Wal-Mart story?
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:44:18pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
source?
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jcm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:44:19pm |
OT
Sources: Rivera To Head Obama's FCC Transition Team
Henry Rivera, a longtime radical leftist, lawyer and former FCC commissioner, is expected to lead the push to dismantle commercial talk radio that is favored by a number of Democratic Party senators. Rivera will play a pivotal role in preventing critics from having a public voice during Obama's tenure in office.
Rivera, who resigned from the FCC nearly a quarter-century ago during the Reagan years, believes in a doctrine of "communications policy as a civil rights issue".
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:44:28pm |
re: #72 rawmuse
I've had 3 "F--- you, whitey"s since last Tuesday night.
Change!
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
In college a black friend and myself both agreed things would be exponentially better with our generation. Now I'm not so sure.
Good grief!
I haven't seen anything like that where I live, nothing at all! And it's pert'near a 50-50 town, racially.
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guitarguy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:44:36pm |
Julian Bond (NAACP) pretty much said this months ago.
(If Obama is elected) "...we still have a long struggle ahead of us, blah-blah-blah...institutional racism...yadda-yadda..."
...I'm just happy that Erica Jong and Jane Fonda can now rest easy...
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:44:49pm |
re: #41 WriterMom
"politically conscious" rap music...what a concept.
I assume that about half of it tends to support conservative "political consciousness", right? You know, raps like "Smack Mah Capital Gains Tax Down", and "Fight the [Labor Unions'] Power".
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:44:56pm |
re: #92 capitalist piglet
Horrible.
Did you watch the video of the teacher in Nort Carolina, browbeating the kid whose parents support McCain? The child's father is in the military.
Is there something that can be done about this?
No. Do you have a link?
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:45:00pm |
"But that does not magically make the problems go away for the average person of color. Nothing has changed and for many the negative stereotypes are still very much there," Hutchinson said.
It could never be because the thug rappers and their followers are taught by blacks to not trust whitey or the "po-lice", etc.
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gop_patriot Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:45:18pm |
re: #75 rightside
A "teaching moment" wouldn't you say?
I'd show that woman a "teaching moment" if it were my child being talked to like that. I have no tolerance for hateful bigots anywhere near my children.
/Homeschool mom to three kids. Well, two, now- the oldest graduated this past May! :)
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Lumyrra Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:45:18pm |
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:45:22pm |
re: #96 calcajun
Where's the cite for the back up of the Wal-Mart story?
I saw it. I guess you just have to decide whether I'm trustworthy or not :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:46:02pm |
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KenJen Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:46:03pm |
re: #6 mama winger
Activists have no intention of actually accomplishing their goals.
Right on. They are kinda like community organizers.
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:46:19pm |
re: #96 calcajun
Where's the cite for the back up of the Wal-Mart story?
My incident occurred right in front of me, it never made the newspaper because those around me, including myself, were speechless!
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Gitarzan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:46:22pm |
re: #49 MandyManners
Do they just want all whites to up and kill themselves?
*drive-by*
I wouldn't think so, otherwise the race hustlers would have no one to blackmail and bleed for cash.
/I wish I were kidding...
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Salem Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:46:38pm |
Anybody see Chocolate News last night? Pretty funny if a little awkward at times. I was a little annoyed with the close, though, where Grier said "From picking cotton in the sun, to flying high on Air Force One!"
I wished I could ask him which one of Obama's forefathers had to pick cotton in the sun. The white ones, maybe?
There was a funny skit on KKK Obama supporters. "Yes we klan!"
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:46:38pm |
re: #106 NC State of Mind
I saw it. I guess you just have to decide whether I'm trustworthy or not :)
"Trust but verify"
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hazzyday Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:46:52pm |
The Jackson/Sharpton racism industry will never end til it is unfunded and relegated to the garbage heap where it belongs.
Things like reparations don't help anyone's psychology. It just would give money for people to blow away and the problem it was to help will be the same. If someone is feeling bad about the past history of slavery it's better to send them to a shrink or kick their ass. Success is always found by looking forward.
Let people volunteer if they think they need reparations or if they think they have white guilt. Then have the guilty white people pay for their own and the reparatees shrink bills.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:47:05pm |
re: #110 Bumr50
I can't wait for the Obama Monument!
Isn't there a large empty suit statue somewhere?
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Max Darkside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:47:12pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
In college a black friend and myself both agreed things would be exponentially better with our generation. Now I'm not so sure.
I expect more of this as time goes on...
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:47:13pm |
Post 22, NC State of Mind:
re: #22 rightside
Just got that from HA. Watch it and shake your head too.
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SummerSong Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:47:14pm |
"But some analysts fear Obama's win could actually undermine efforts to tackle inequality between blacks and whites in a country where racial segregation in the south prevented blacks from voting as recently as the 1960s"
In any other context would half a frikken century ago be called recently?
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wolfie Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:47:22pm |
re: #22 rightside
Just got that from HA. Watch it and shake your head too.
There is NO reason to discuss ANY politics with kids below the high school level. This business of asking 8 yr olds what they think about current events is ridiculous.
Your video shows exactly why it should be FORBIDDEN. That teacher should be fired, but she won't be.
Sickening.
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:48:11pm |
re: #104 gop_patriot
Good for you, God bless you and your family!
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:48:31pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
What. The. Hell.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:48:32pm |
re: #21 rawmuse
Why do I get the mental picture of Eddie Murphy in Mr. Rogers outfit saying "keeel my landlord"?
Because you've conflated two different Eddie Murphy SNL characters: Mr. Robinson, and Tyrone Green.
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:48:43pm |
Can you believe it ... the inauguration theme will be ...A New Birth of Freedom ...and something to do with Lincoln ...
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:48:45pm |
re: #121 wolfie
There is NO reason to discuss ANY politics with kids below the high school level. This business of asking 8 yr olds what they think about current events is ridiculous.
Your video shows exactly why it should be FORBIDDEN. That teacher should be fired, but she won't be.Sickening.
There needs to be a public outcry...and a very, very loud one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:49:04pm |
re: #124 bosforus
Bos? Did you see my little note to you the other day? You're avatar scared the poop out of me when I was a kid.
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Pyrocles Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:49:16pm |
People who believe themselves to be the "oppressed", now see their opportunity to become the "oppressor". Kind of like Marxist Paulo Freire's ideas in Pedagogy of the Oppressed.
re: #90 snowbunnybutt
as I said before now I am getting racial slurs (post election) I emailed one of the people who were spreading the hate and she said and I quote "WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON US FOR SO LONG THAT I BELIEVE ITS TIME FOR A PAY BACK." I am not trying to spread hate, but this is the first time I have had this happen. My dad helped her dad get into our town goverment, without pay I might add. So what have I ever done to her. Since then her daddy has paid for quite a few goodies for her. He got elected. I am friends with Alfonzo [Link: www.youtube.com...] for those who don't know him, and he gave me great advice. I won't post here because it was a private email, but he made great sense. As always.
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hazzyday Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:49:28pm |
re: #90 snowbunnybutt
This is a common theme running in black theology troofer types. A successful Obama administration will have to disappoint them.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:49:33pm |
re: #101 Occasional Reader
Oh yes-those were big hits, along with "Pay Your Own Way, Bro". Such uplifting, intellectually challenging music!
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maddogg Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:49:55pm |
re: #127 JacksonTn
Can you believe it ... the inauguration theme will be ...A New Birth of Freedom ...and something to do with Lincoln ...
Somebody better tell Michelle Honest Abe was a Republican.
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Bumr50 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:50:17pm |
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:50:23pm |
re: #109 KenJen
Being "active" is the goal. That's all they have got to do.
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BackwardsBoy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:50:34pm |
But...but...but...I thought The Messiah was supposed to instantly cure America's ills, and my receding hairline, and potbelly, and that hard spot where my liver used to be.
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:50:59pm |
What about pirate radio ...it could make a comeback ...
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:06pm |
re: #106 NC State of Mind
I've no way to test your veracity. But we all should worry if you are right and what you saw was not isolated. While Jackson, Sharpton and the NAACP might be out of business (how much more advanced can you get?) the problems and incidents you mention might breathe life into some old institutions we thought had died; the Neo-nazis and the Klan. How's that for scary.
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hazzyday Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:15pm |
re: #100 guitarguy
Julian Bond (NAACP) pretty much said this months ago.
(If Obama is elected) "...we still have a long struggle ahead of us, blah-blah-blah...institutional racism...yadda-yadda..."
...I'm just happy that Erica Jong and Jane Fonda can now rest easy...
When I grew up in my civics class textbook Julian Bond was a hero and to be respected. But when as an adult I acutally heard him talk. I realized the textbooks were wrong and he was really just a first class low life jerk.
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Salem Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:23pm |
re: #68 mama winger
Already happened to me. So I'm done with that whole thing.
Aw, that's a drag. Well, you're going to get an occasional crank-case who hasn't gotten the memo. I guess I have the advantage of not looking like any particular race.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:24pm |
re: #140 JacksonTn
What about pirate radio ...it could make a comeback ...
Do we all have to talk like LoFlyer then?
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:31pm |
re: #125 Silhouette
What. The. Hell.
These people need to be careful. They didn't just become the majority, and they aren't going to be able to start kicking people around, just because they think they can.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:33pm |
re: #140 JacksonTn
Pirate Radio? They have that in Somalia...
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:38pm |
re: #111 outsidephilly
My incident occurred right in front of me, it never made the newspaper because those around me, including myself, were speechless!
Can we have the details of what you saw?
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:51:45pm |
re: #79 capitalist piglet
Sorry for copying you (downthread) - didn't see your link.
I am offically sick to my stomach. I personally feel the need to do what I can to ruin this woman's teaching career.
WTF!? Telling a elementary school child that their dad is fighting and may be killed a "senseless war" is beyond insane. This "teacher" deserved to be fired and have to flip burgures fr the rest of her life.
Anyone else notice how the Obama hatching sounded just like Obama himself when he speaks. No substance, just hope & change.
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IslandLibertarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:52:04pm |
It's not about equality.
It's about PAYBACK!
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:52:22pm |
Just warning y'all that if Obama heals bad hair days, I'm converting to Obamism.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:52:32pm |
re: #149 IslandLibertarian
It's not about equality.
It's about PAYBACK!
You betcha. That's the word at the grocery store.
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:52:42pm |
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:52:52pm |
re: #92 capitalist piglet
Horrible.
Did you watch the video of the teacher in Nort Carolina, browbeating the kid whose parents support McCain? The child's father is in the military.
Is there something that can be done about this?
I'd be very careful about intentionally leading little ones astray. Can't believe that hasn't been in the papers or the news.
Well, outside of the video from Scandinavia!
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jcm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:52:52pm |
re: #136 Iron Fist
"Fairness Doctrine" on the move. They may go after talk radio before they come for the guns.
Suppress speech, then when it's easier to operate out of the light go after the guns. That's the pattern, repeated time and again through history.
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SummerSong Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:52:54pm |
Unemployment numbers released tomorrow? I'd bet on another down day in the market.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:16pm |
re: #131 Pyrocles
Anybody who uses the word Pedagogy in the title of anything is an arrogant poo poo head.
I told a big word user once that I was Monosyllabic.
He looked at me very confused, then got it, and laughed his butt off. Then, he used more conversational English.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:19pm |
Anyone else find it interesting that the old (45-59), white, man voters were closer to a 50/50 vote than any other group within their demographic?
I'm sick of these racist old, white men!
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:20pm |
re: #120 SummerSong
In any other context would half a frikken century ago be called recently?
We were constantly told that Kerry's activities in the 1970s were ages ago and didn't matter anymore.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:25pm |
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Bumr50 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:31pm |
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:37pm |
re: #159 bosforus
Anyone else find it interesting that the old (45-59), white, man voters were closer to a 50/50 vote than any other group within their demographic?
I'm sick of these racist old, white men!
Link:[Link: elections.nytimes.com...]
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:39pm |
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Irenike Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:47pm |
Take up the challenge, Lizards. We keep talking about how we want to speak out against the left. Here is the golden opportunity.
Next time you’re in the company of Obama supporters, say something like: “You know, I didn’t vote for Obama. But there is one reason I am ecstatic that he has been elected. American has finally proven to itself and to the world that we are not a racist nation. If a guy like Obama can be president, then we are truly a nation that embraces diversity.”
Be prepared for the “Yes-but” response. Your rebuttal should be: “Many people said that by not electing Obama we would be proving that we are a racist nation. Now that we have elected him, we are proving we are not racist. We are not a racist nation. How can we be? We just elected a black president.”
If they say that not all people voted for Obama, tell them that not all people voted for Sarah. Does that mean those folks were sexist? And was the only reason to vote for Obama the fact that he’s black? Well if color of skin is not the only reason to vote for somebody, then color of skin is not the reason to vote against them, either.
Keep driving this point home. Be firm. Eventually, the claim will stick. I really believe the election of Obama, if played correctly, will take the wind out of the sails of the leftists.
And if the race card can be expelled once and for all, it will be a huge victory. It will spell the loss of one of the biggest tools in the leftist toolbox.
It didn’t occur to me until just now how important this could be. I am so indifferent to skin color, I can’t believe we even have to talk about it. But let’s not miss an opportunity to beat the lefties on their own terms.
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Pigtown Water Dog Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:55pm |
re: #65 A Kiwi Infidel
I had a black kid in my class demand to know for whom I voted. When I told him that part of what makes America great is we don't have to tell that to anyone, he turned to the class and said that I was "scared I was gonna get assassinated because I didn't vote for Obama."
Wowzers. Fortunately, our (black) admin suspended him pending mama-conference.
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Tigger2005 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:53:56pm |
re: #26 Charles
Meanwhile, the Dow is plunging.
I have no doubt if McCain had been elected, we would have seen at least a modest uptick.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:54:01pm |
re: #161 WriterMom
occasional crank-case
Distant relative of OR?
We don't like to talk about that side of the family.
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:54:18pm |
re: #141 calcajun
I've no way to test your veracity. But we all should worry if you are right and what you saw was not isolated. While Jackson, Sharpton and the NAACP might be out of business (how much more advanced can you get?) the problems and incidents you mention might breathe life into some old institutions we thought had died; the Neo-nazis and the Klan. How's that for scary.
God help us all if some crackhead moron kills Obama.
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jcm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:54:21pm |
re: #140 JacksonTn
What about pirate radio ...it could make a comeback ...
To much hardware, to easy to track. Internet, podcasts, throw away accounts, public computers.
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Dave the..... Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:54:22pm |
"Fairness Doctrine" on the move. They may go after talk radio before they come for the guns.
I don't think anyone would be surprised if they try to shut down the opposition press (aka talk radio) right away.
Rush read something today how they will use the internet to destroy the opposition. What is it? 3.1M on their email distribution list? So a mass email goes calling for all 3.1M clones to "contact" someone who opposes Obama.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:54:34pm |
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:54:36pm |
re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bos? Did you see my little note to you the other day? You're avatar scared the poop out of me when I was a kid.
Yeah, I responded but like a year after that thread was relevant. Don't fear The Bumble.
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nyc redneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:54:54pm |
there is a lot of money to be made by the race baiters.
ask sharpton if he wants his lively hood derailed.
or jesse "nut cutter" jackson.
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CalBear84 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:55:14pm |
From the article:
"His (Obama's) election demonstrates America's extraordinary capacity to renew itself and adapt to a changing world," said former U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan.
Memo to General Annan:
Stick your "renewal" where the sun don't shine.
And bye the way, THIS IS AMERICA. The world adapts to us!
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joncelli Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:55:30pm |
re: #17 jcm
Yup. Stealth wealth transfers with a generous helping of white guilt. Yum!
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jcm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:55:52pm |
re: #172 NC State of Mind
God help us all if some crackhead moron kills Obama.
That would be a disaster, could very well surpass a riots straight to race war.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:56:01pm |
re: #174 Dave the...
I have that linky...RIGHT HERE, BABY.
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:56:02pm |
re: #96 calcajun
Where's the cite for the back up of the Wal-Mart story?
I would like to see the source, but I can believe it happened the way a few blacks think.
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:56:26pm |
All this talk of race, age, gender...makes me feel old.
Last night I watched a special that showed a clan of lions. The females run the show and do all the hunting. There was a very large scraggly male who was the king. He was all leathery and scarred and he couldn't even get up without obvious joint pain. There were all these other males circling the clan but not daring to come in. Well this group of lions was having a tough time because it hadn't rained in a while and game was scarce. At some point a couple of hyenias made a run at one of the lion cubs. That old male was on his feet like a shot and fired out of there and scattered the hyenias effortlessly and for good measure killed one or two.
So...maybe it is time for a change, but I wouldn't beard those old lions quite yet.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:56:43pm |
re: #167 Irenike
Your rebuttal should be: “Many people said that by not electing Obama we would be proving that we are a racist nation. Now that we have elected him, we are proving we are not racist.
Actually, strictly speaking, that statement isn't logically consistent.
And let's not overstate the case. Is there still racism in America? Of course there is. (And it's not just a white thing... far from it.)
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:56:45pm |
re: #122 Iron Fist
That would have been funny! Where do you think Jackson will fit in an Obama Administration? Ambassador to the UN? Sec State? I don't know where they'll stick him, but you know they're going to "take advantage of his special talents" somewhere.
Ambassador to Zimbabwe.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:56:57pm |
re: #182 buzzsawmonkey
I believe that is what Bill Cosby has advocated to his community-and was promptly accused of being...wait for it: RAAACIST.
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Querent Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:57:01pm |
re: #183 jcm
which is exactly what that flavor of crackheads want.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:57:02pm |
re: #158 Iron Fist
Actually, they'll do away with everything but the Congressional Black Caucus. Because that's, like, fair.
I don't know. Now that the President will be a black man, wouldn't it be fair to have a Congressional White Caucus?
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Irish Rose Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:57:10pm |
re: #34 krypto
Every time I check the CNN website, or any other major news source, now that racism has ended, I keeps seeing nothing except continuous non-stop Race-in-your-Face. Even Fox isn't completely immune to this.
The word "historical" has now become a code term for "that which is related to the black guy getting elected."
Will this continue for four to eight years?
Yes.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:57:27pm |
re: #26 Charles
Meanwhile, the Dow is plunging.
Well, it is. But it's plunging on more rotten financial news, not on political events or the President Elect.
It's also plunging on dismal psychology brought on by the panic atmosphere whipped up prior to the election, mainly by Democrats and their media water carriers.
Look for more plunging tomorrow, when the full jobs report arrives, if unemployment is higher than expectations. If not, we may see another small rally as people scoop up undervalued stocks.
The only way Obama will have an impact on the markets is through policy or appointment announcements that have some direct economic impact, like naming a new Treasury Secretary or announcing a firm commitment to raising the capitol gains tax.
A big problem going forward: the market seems to be bouncing off a low of around 8500 - it has done so several times now, and this hints that the bad news of a recession is pretty much factored into stock prices already, with people buying the dips to take advantage of bargain prices. The next problem, though, is the massive imbalance in so many 401k plans, which are terrifyingly heavy on equities. With each rally, you'll see people fighting the rise by selling back into the market as they re-balance their skewed portfolios. There are huge sums of money that needs to be reshuffled, and this may keep the market trapped in a trading range for some time. It may have trouble breaking through 10,000 and holding that ground.
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:57:33pm |
I posted this in another thread but ...
This morning my brother took my dog for a walk ...three young black guys were on the corner drinking out of paper bags ...it was around 9 a.m. ...they were chanting OBAMA OBAMA. He walked by and said "Change ... you have a black president now." ...I don't think they will be changing any time soon.
Yesterday, a friend of mine was waiting for a bus. He was standing away from people smoking a cigarette. A black lady came up to him and said "Blow that White smoke somewhere else." ... I understand if you don't like smoking ...but really ... white smoke? ... it was outside.
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Bumr50 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:57:56pm |
re: #177 Iron Fist
You just KNOW he's going to have one. Secretary of Fairness or something.
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snowbunnybutt Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:58:01pm |
re: #149 IslandLibertarian
It's not about equality.
It's about PAYBACK!
I know there were alot of really horrible things done in the past, but what has this generation done to deserve payback? People talk about racial profiling, but I have to say, at least in our state. There is the reverse. My husband is in law enforcement. And on the back of tickets you have to put the race of the person getting the ticket. If you get too many blacks that have gotten tickets, the officer gets into trouble. Who cares if you are in a location that, the odds are most people you stop are black. You are to just look the other way so the officer does not get his ass chewed and get into trouble at work.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:58:07pm |
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right_on_target Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:58:08pm |
re: #6 mama winger
Activists have no intention of actually accomplishing their goals.
___
Unless they're named Bill Ayers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:58:14pm |
Oops...gotta run! Well, not actually run. More like...oh heck, see ya!
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Clutch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:58:24pm |
Shouldn't the NAACP be disbanded, too? I mean, how much farther can you advance if we have a black president? Y'all have reached your goal, now go home and find REAL work to do.
Can we have a Congressional White Caucus now? ;-)
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:58:35pm |
re: #149 IslandLibertarian
It's not about equality.
It's about PAYBACK!
I grew up in New Orleans and remember when the African American machine succeeded in controlling the mayor's office and most of the city council. It was the politics of payback--big time. This may not be any different.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:58:43pm |
re: #141 calcajun
the problems and incidents you mention might breathe life into some old institutions we thought had died; the Neo-nazis and the Klan. How's that for scary.
But let's not be so worried over backlash that we tolerate the "forelash."
Meaning lets not just see these events as bad because they could cause racism against blacks. They are bad and they are racist in and of themselves.
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jamgarr Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:59:17pm |
The Dems have successfully avoided being placed on the "put-up" side of the equation since 2006. Beginning 1-20-09 that's going to be harder to achieve.
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calvin coolidge Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:59:43pm |
A wise man said:
If mankind was to wake up one morning at 8am and we all found out that we were the same color, the same race, the same religion, the same political party, by noon we would have developed a whole new set of prejudices against each other.
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SummerSong Thu, Nov 6, 2008 12:59:48pm |
re: #160 Silhouette
We were constantly told that Kerry's activities in the 1970s were ages ago and didn't matter anymore.
Funny how that happens, eh? *spit*
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strikefo Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:00:05pm |
"People will say: 'You guys have got a black president so it's cool. It's straight.' But it does not erase the discussion (about race) that you need to have," said Chuck D, the main force behind the rap group Public Enemy.
Why do we NEED to have a discussion? They will never be satisfied. If Obama lost, we would need a national dialogue on race. Obama wins, we still need to talk about race. America has an African-American President-elect.
They are so upset that now they can't whine about racism, that they attempt to cling to it, just like we cling to our guns and religion.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:00:06pm |
re: #150 WriterMom
Just warning y'all that if Obama heals bad hair days, I'm converting to Obamism.
Fair enough.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:00:14pm |
re: #172 NC State of Mind
That would basically be the end of the world. And I'm only half kidding about that.
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jcm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:00:26pm |
re: #190 Querent
which is exactly what that flavor of crackheads want.
Some folks are sick beyond belief.
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:00:34pm |
re: #206 calvin coolidge
A wise man said:
If mankind was to wake up one morning at 8am and we all found out that we were the same color, the same race, the same religion, the same political party, by noon we would have developed a whole new set of prejudices against each other.
I hate those damn left handed sons of bitches
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:01:01pm |
Cone's Black Liberation Theology image of AmeriKKKa and the White Race is, pure and simple, victim image writ monstrous. People who believe that are doing "persecution" unto themselves. They will not stop just because a man of dark skin coloration sits in the Oval Office. They have a need to believe they are not responsible. Not even Martin Luther King would be able to get through to them.
It will continue.
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nyc redneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:01:04pm |
re: #198 WriterMom
This Hymie would like to see him out of business...
LOL!
me too. these charlatans hurt race relations.
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:01:41pm |
re: #202 Clutch
Shouldn't the NAACP be disbanded, too? I mean, how much farther can you advance if we have a black president? Y'all have reached your goal, now go home and find REAL work to do.
Can we have a Congressional White Caucus now? ;-)
That would be racist, but a CBC is not. Just think of what would happen of a White Entertainment Television network was proposed.
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CIA Reject Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:02:08pm |
Well, of course the "age of racism" isn't over silly.
What do you expect race-baiting extortionists like Sharpton and Jackson to do get jobs?
/Racism is big business!
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Zippy_Slug Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:02:10pm |
We wouldn't want the race business to go under.. I smell another bailout!
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joncelli Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:02:15pm |
re: #140 JacksonTn
Internet radio. That may be the last refuge for right-wing talk.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:02:28pm |
I think the next Republican platform should include preventing child abuse in the classroom - and I'm talking mental abuse.
It's no wonder kids drop out when their teachers are horrible people.
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:02:46pm |
re: #218 CIA Reject
Well, of course the "age of racism" isn't over silly.
What do you expect race-baiting extortionists like Sharpton and Jackson to do get jobs?
/Racism is big business!
They can whine on CNN.
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ClosetConservative Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:02:54pm |
I don't get the lefties. They tell us that if we elect Obama, race will go down the memory hole. But all I see on leftie blogs right now are people screeching about how the "normal smart voters" defeated the "racist redneck hicks", and we'll all be whole again. Once we make some more overtures and apologies for our evil hickish attitudes.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:03:07pm |
re: #182 buzzsawmonkey
You want radical music? Try this hit from 40 years ago: Love Child.
Listen to the lyrics, if you haven't lately. What is the song about? Abstinence from sex until marriage in order to avoid single motherhood and illegitimacy--even if it means that she loses her boyfriend.
What a revolutionary concept.
Careful there...you're starting to sound like a social conservative...by the look of things, we're about to get booted from the Republican party ;-)
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:03:25pm |
re: #172 NC State of Mind
God help us all if some crackhead moron kills Obama.
If he governs from the center (for which he will be called a "Tom") he'll be fine. If he tries to pull the country to the left, I am sure the Secret Service will tell him that there are areas of the country where they will not be able to protect him.
But, if there are more incidents like the ones being reported here, be prepared for some "organized" responses.
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thefallingman Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:03:51pm |
What? Flava Flav couldn't be reached for comment?
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gop_patriot Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:03:58pm |
re: #203 calcajun
I grew up in New Orleans and remember when the African American machine succeeded in controlling the mayor's office and most of the city council. It was the politics of payback--big time. This may not be any different.
I grew up in Memphis, and my best friend still lives there. Yesterday she said, "Congratulations, stupid half of America. You're now going to get to experience what we here in Memphis have been enjoying for the last 15 years."
And it ain't pretty. :/
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The Other Les Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:04:15pm |
re: #100 guitarguy
Julian Bond (NAACP) pretty much said this months ago.
(If Obama is elected) "...we still have a long struggle ahead of us, blah-blah-blah...institutional racism...yadda-yadda..."
...I'm just happy that Erica Jong and Jane Fonda can now rest easy...
Some assholes need to look in a mirror.
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Irenike Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:04:31pm |
#195 JacksonTN
I am so glad you re-posted that story about the Obama supporters. I'm gonna remember that line if I get accosted by people like that.
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:04:48pm |
re: #195 JacksonTn
I posted this in another thread but ...
This morning my brother took my dog for a walk ...three young black guys were on the corner drinking out of paper bags ...it was around 9 a.m. ...they were chanting OBAMA OBAMA. He walked by and said "Change ... you have a black president now." ...I don't think they will be changing any time soon.
Yesterday, a friend of mine was waiting for a bus. He was standing away from people smoking a cigarette. A black lady came up to him and said "Blow that White smoke somewhere else." ... I understand if you don't like smoking ...but really ... white smoke? ... it was outside.
This all reminds me of leaving the stadium after a high school football game against your arch-rivals and you have lost. Every comment made by the opponent crowd is a memorable insult. I say we give it a rest, congratulate everyone on a well played game and nut up for the next game.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:04:51pm |
re: #206 calvin coolidge
A wise man said:
If mankind was to wake up one morning at 8am and we all found out that we were the same color, the same race, the same religion, the same political party, by noon we would have developed a whole new set of prejudices against each other.
Brings to mind the Tower of Babel story. Huh?
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Daisy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:04:52pm |
"Obama win does not end racism, activists say"
"Activists" sounds like NewSpeak for "Racists" in the same way that "Insurgents" has been NewSpeak for "Terrorists".
Leftists love love love racism; it's their bread and butter.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:08pm |
re: #220 joncelli
Internet radio. That may be the last refuge for right-wing talk.
Just curious but what is the claimed basis of the Fairness Doctrine? Is it the fact that radio stations are licensed by the govt?
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Zippy_Slug Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:21pm |
[Link: hotair.com...]
Only whites can be racists!
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:24pm |
If they take away talk radio ... I wonder how it will be on XM ...I wonder how many people subscribe to XM for the talk radio and I am not talking about Air America ...
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FrogMarch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:35pm |
re: #98 jcm
OT
Liberal Fascism. As we all know - Chuck Schumer (D-NY) is already starting by equating free speech with pornography. He insists - both must be stopped.
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DeathtotheSwiss Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:37pm |
I think I speak for all the other non-whites here when I say, yes..racism is done. THE END. No sequels.
Am I right guys?
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:49pm |
re: #206 calvin coolidge
A wise man said:
If mankind was to wake up one morning at 8am and we all found out that we were the same color, the same race, the same religion, the same political party, by noon we would have developed a whole new set of prejudices against each other.
Star bellied sneetches and those without stars upon thars.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:52pm |
re: #197 snowbunnybutt
I know there were alot of really horrible things done in the past, but what has this generation done to deserve payback? People talk about racial profiling, but I have to say, at least in our state. There is the reverse. My husband is in law enforcement. And on the back of tickets you have to put the race of the person getting the ticket. If you get too many blacks that have gotten tickets, the officer gets into trouble. Who cares if you are in a location that, the odds are most people you stop are black. You are to just look the other way so the officer does not get his ass chewed and get into trouble at work.
So let me guess, then more blacks start to feel freer to speed because they know that the police are constrained. And then accidents go up and more black people get hurt. Ya gotta love liberalism./sarc
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ilyaunion Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:05:56pm |
Didn't you know that everyone is a racist always in America? Unless of course they vote for the first black President specifically because of his race.
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oh_dude Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:06:00pm |
(I commented on this yesterday)
The problem is this:
How will we know when racism ends if we don't all agree on what the "success metric" is?
1. Giving blacks the ability to vote? Check.
2. Blacks rising to prominent positions in academia, science, law, etc. ? Check.
3. Black President? Check.
4. Kids from the ghetto signing multi-million record and sports contracts? Check?
5. Odds a black person rising to wealth and stature greater in the U.S. than any other country? Check.
What else?
I do project managment for living. You can't reach a goal if you don''t have a way to know when you've reached it.
Or maybe some "people" don't ever want it to go away? And that's the point.
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CalBear84 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:06:02pm |
Another wise man said:
"Democracy consists of choosing your dictators, after they've told you what you think it is you want to hear".
re: #206 calvin coolidge
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:06:08pm |
re: #224 ClosetConservative
I don't get the lefties. They tell us that if we elect Obama, race will go down the memory hole. But all I see on leftie blogs right now are people screeching about how the "normal smart voters" defeated the "racist redneck hicks", and we'll all be whole again. Once we make some more overtures and apologies for our evil hickish attitudes.
That lot will never be happy.
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Semper Gumbi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:06:23pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:06:35pm |
re: #209 strikefo
"People will say: 'You guys have got a black president so it's cool. It's straight.' But it does not erase the discussion (about race) that you need to have," said Chuck D, the main force behind the rap group Public Enemy.
Why do we NEED to have a discussion?
And I'd say more to the point, why do all the libs keep pretending that we haven't already been having incessant "discussions about race" for at least the last forty years? It almost makes you think that "discussion about race" is... oh, some kind of euphemism, for something else...
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The Other Les Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:06:48pm |
re: #104 gop_patriot
I'd show that woman a "teaching moment" if it were my child being talked to like that. I have no tolerance for hateful bigots anywhere near my children.
/Homeschool mom to three kids. Well, two, now- the oldest graduated this past May! :)
When I left the Minneapolis public school system I promised myself that I would never deliberately put a child through that nightmare.
This is one of the reasons I never married.
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maddogg Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:07:01pm |
re: #194 SixDegrees
The only way Obama will have an impact on the markets is through policy or appointment announcements that have some direct economic impact, like naming a new Treasury Secretary or announcing a firm commitment to raising the capitol gains tax.
Sorry, but thats not true. The market is as emotional as a living person, because thats who is the market. Obama is bad news for capitolism, and the stock market in general, and he is having an effect.
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DeathtotheSwiss Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:07:05pm |
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:07:13pm |
Ever since President Elect Obama the DOW is down 10%.
/change we can believe in
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:07:26pm |
re: #244 oh_dude
You can't reach a goal if you don''t have a way to know when you've reached it.
Or maybe some "people" don't ever want it to go away? And that's the point.
Yes. That is exactly the point. Well said.
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:07:34pm |
re: #213 Big Steve
I hate those damn left handed sons of bitches
What if you only have a left hand and no right?
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Big Steve Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:07:42pm |
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The Other Les Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:07:44pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:08:00pm |
re: #78 NC State of Mind
Yesterday at Wal Mart a black man pushed a white man out of the way and told him that after today, he didn't get to be in front of him ever agian.
In college a black friend and myself both agreed things would be exponentially better with our generation. Now I'm not so sure.
I studied African-American history in college. Unless the black community begins coming down hard on people like that man at Wal-Mart, there will be bloodshed. W.E.B. DuBois planted a virus into the black community which has been growing, unchecked, for a century.
/IMHO, there are two "black Americas"
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:08:06pm |
If I'm "healed" how come I'm nauseous and have a headache?
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:08:20pm |
At my school I saw some balcks yell/chant "we finally elected a f***ing n***r!" several times in the middle of a crowded room, then go outside and yell some more.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:08:56pm |
re: #256 The Other Les
I can't wait to tear it down.
Wait 'til the college students start soaping the Obama fountain.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:08:58pm |
Three days into his presidency I'm calling "Quagmire."
I think that's how many days the press gave our military in Iraq.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:09:03pm |
re: #239 DeathtotheSwiss
I think I speak for all the other non-whites here when I say, yes..racism is done. THE END. No sequels.
Am I right guys?
That is so funny given your nic. ;-)
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Daisy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:09:04pm |
re: #4 obageegee
Ok this has to be the biggest oxymoron of the day
‘Obama is going to raise the level of intelligence,’ says Roseanne Barr
Wow. This from a woman who believes high enough heat can't melt steel. Cripes, one more consequence of Obama as POTUS .. Roseanne will become more inflated .. a danger in and of itself.
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mattm Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:09:12pm |
re: #246 unreconstructed rebel
That lot will never be happy.
I beleive that would be the Rev. Jackson/Shapton lot.
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:09:17pm |
Great, next you'll be telling me he won't give me a job, a check, or end global warming and the Iraq War.
What next, no Easter Bunny?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:10:18pm |
re: #259 mattm
At my school I saw some balcks yell/chant "we finally elected a
f***ing n***r!" several times in the middle of a crowded room, then go
outside and yell some more.
And if I, a typical white person, were to shout the same thing, I'd be branded as a "racist." What a country!
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:10:28pm |
re: #252 Killian Bundy
Ever since President Elect Obama the DOW is down 10%.
/change we can believe in
Change no one would listen to. . .
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:10:31pm |
re: #252 Killian Bundy
Ever since President Elect Obama the DOW is down 10%.
/change we can believe in
It's all part of "rejecting middle-classedness". Didn't you read Trinity Church's statement of core values?
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olivia Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:10:32pm |
thank goodness barney bush is black - if he was a westie it would be a hate crime- or maybe biting a reuters reporter is some other kind of crime
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:10:34pm |
re: #232 Big Steve
This all reminds me of leaving the stadium after a high school football game against your arch-rivals and you have lost. Every comment made by the opponent crowd is a memorable insult. I say we give it a rest, congratulate everyone on a well played game and nut up for the next game.
I have not engaged in anything ... but I will also not back down if someone comes at me ... never ...You try getting called a White racist old b*tch to your face for not voting for Obama ... and then you get back to me ...
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:10:41pm |
Hitler once promised a girl in a crowd that he would find her a husband. Say anything to get elected.
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:10:56pm |
re: #254 logboy
What if you only have a left hand and no right?
Hooks can be sexy.
or...
Stick and move! Stick and move!
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DeathtotheSwiss Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:02pm |
re: #262 Silhouette
That is so funny given your nic. ;-)
The Swiss aren't a race...I think I can still be prejudiced towards a Nation without having to revive the now defunct racism.
Trust me, I'm only half-white.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:07pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:08pm |
Geez, I was hoping it wasn't gonna be until at least February before I started hearing the "Americans elects black POTUS, somehow still largely racist" crap. I knew it would happen, but it's just now Nov. 6th. :sigh:
Seriously, what do these 'activists' expect? Electing McCain would never have totally ended ageism in America, electing H. Clinton would never have totally ended sexism in America. How the hell can anyone expect that electing Obama would somehow end racism in America?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:11pm |
Language warning.
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Adrenalyn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:16pm |
re: #232 Big Steve
This all reminds me of leaving the stadium after a high school football game against your arch-rivals and you have lost. Every comment made by the opponent crowd is a memorable insult. I say we give it a rest, congratulate everyone on a well played game and nut up for the next game.
I say the "give it a rest" phrase is just code-speak for appeasement.
After all, appeasing the left by McCain and Bush is what caused 0bama to get elected.
It is time to be the opposition, not the subjugated.
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joncelli Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:17pm |
re: #235 bosforus
Don't precisely know, but that sounds correct.
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bombarafat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:27pm |
of course racism is alive, think of all the people who voted for the one just because of his skin color.
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DeathtotheSwiss Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:49pm |
re: #263 Daisy
Wow. This from a woman who believes high enough heat can't melt steel. Cripes, one more consequence of Obama as POTUS .. Roseanne will become more inflated .. a danger in and of itself.
I thought that was just Rosie O'Donnell.
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:11:53pm |
re: #271 DistantThunder
Hitler once promised a girl in a crowd that he would find her a husband. Say anything to get elected.
The problem is he did--a nice SS boy.
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The Sanity Inspector Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:05pm |
Let me guess: we're still racist because we only voted for O!'s white half.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:06pm |
re: #257 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I studied African-American history in college. Unless the black community begins coming down hard on people like that man at Wal-Mart, there will be bloodshed. W.E.B. DuBois planted a virus into the black community which has been growing, unchecked, for a century.
/IMHO, there are two "black Americas"
My two cents: I live in a majority black city, and I've seen no untoward behavior of any kind in the last two days, of the sort from the Wal-Mart story.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:07pm |
Obama the Secular Redeemer said only by voting for him can America wash away the original sin of slavery. It seems the grievance mongers are worried this "change" is going to cut into their business.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:14pm |
re: #281 Iron Fist
Who wants to bet that certain blogs call us "racists" for having this discussion?
Fuck 'em.
Racist.
///
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Gearhead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:17pm |
Obama win does not end racism, activists say.
This isn't a political or philosophical statement. It's a business model.
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so.cal.swede Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:35pm |
re: #106 NC State of Mind
I saw it. I guess you just have to decide whether I'm trustworthy or not :)
I'll have to call shenanigans. Although, if that were actually to happen. and the pushed person yelled something "hey! you're an asshole" or something, would he be a racist then?
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:43pm |
re: #282 DeathtotheSwiss
Macy's needs new balloons for Thanksgiving.
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x-wing Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:12:57pm |
re: #213 Big Steve
I hate those damn left handed sons of bitches
You just don't realize how we've been discriminated against righty.
//and whose bright idea were those left-hand thread propane bottles'? I'm a lefty and they pissed me off.
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Maximu§ Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:13:00pm |
This White Devil is tired of the race card being played. These "activists" can take a long walk off a short pier.
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joncelli Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:13:07pm |
re: #258 looking closely
False consciousness. You obviously need some reeducation.
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lifeofthemind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:13:09pm |
Can anybodu give me a good reason for Joe Lieberman to caucus with the Democrats if that helps them get to 60?
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Gitarzan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:13:22pm |
re: #228 gop_patriot
I grew up in Memphis, and my best friend still lives there. Yesterday she said, "Congratulations, stupid half of America. You're now going to get to experience what we here in Memphis have been enjoying for the last 15 years."
And it ain't pretty. :/
Willie Herrington and the Fords (excluding Harold Jr.) have to be laughing their asses off right now...
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Ringo the Gringo Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:13:41pm |
I won't believe that Obama has won the election until spell-check stops highlighting his name.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:13:43pm |
re: #271 DistantThunder
Hitler once promised a girl in a crowd that he would find her a husband. Say anything to get elected.
Until you get to the point where you can end elections. . .and rule for life. . the divine right of PC be done. . .
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maddogg Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:13:53pm |
I wonder if Michelle will like the rappers referring to her as the "first ho".
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nyc redneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:10pm |
michelle O wore her hate and racism like a badge honor.
and now, that's in the white house.
we will see if she can soften her belligerence now that she must surely be the proudest person in the country.
that will be critical to the tone of race relations in america.
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:19pm |
re: #291 x-wing
You just don't realize how we've been discriminated against righty.
//and whose bright idea were those left-hand thread propane bottles'? I'm a lefty and they pissed me off.
There's something "sinister" about these left-handed comments. (A very obscure Italian-based pun).
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Tarheel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:21pm |
Of course it's not gone. We still have Farrakhan, Wright, Pfleger, and, of course, the president elect, B. Hussein 0bama. All this black power bs is nothing but racism. Nothing but...
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:21pm |
re: #257 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I
studied African-American history in college. Unless the black community
begins coming down hard on people like that man at Wal-Mart, there will
be bloodshed. W.E.B. DuBois planted a virus into the black community
which has been growing, unchecked, for a century./IMHO, there are two "black Americas"
Agreed. In History class, Booker T. Washington always got the shaft, while W.E.B. DuBois was lauded.
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Semper Gumbi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:29pm |
re: #251 DeathtotheSwiss
Right on, err...Master Chief?
Retired.
And we Lefty's need to stick together against those "racist(handist?)" Righty's!
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:41pm |
re: #285 Occasional Reader
My two cents: I live in a majority black city, and I've seen no untoward behavior of any kind in the last two days, of the sort from the Wal-Mart story.
I am glad. . .
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:14:53pm |
re: #22 rightside
Just got that from HA. Watch it and shake your head too.
Where does she teach? Lets organize and get her fired. School is not a platform for your political views. I am so sick of the Bozo Bigotry.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:15:13pm |
re: #281 Iron Fist
Who wants to bet that certain blogs call us "racists" for having this discussion?
Fuck 'em.
Ah, they said we need to have national discussions on race. So we are.
I know how to make them happy: "Hey everyone! I have the cure for all this. More socialism."
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:15:14pm |
Suddenly Emanuel grabbed his steak knife and, as those who were there remember it, shouted out the name of another enemy, lifted the knife, then brought it down with full force into the table.''Dead!'' he screamed.
The group immediately joined in the cathartic release: ''Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead! Bill Schaefer! Dead!''
/say hello to Obama' new Chieif of Staff, Rahm Emanuel
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:15:15pm |
I wonder if we will ever see Obama's Harvard papers ...cuz you know ... he has been elected now ...
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bulwrk Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:15:37pm |
re: #269 olivia
maybe biting a reuters reporter is some other kind of crime
I hope they gave poor Barney a tetanus shot
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DeathtotheSwiss Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:15:48pm |
re: #303 Semper Gumbi
Retired.
And we Lefty's need to stick together against those "racist(handist?)" Righty's!
What about the ambi's?
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:15:50pm |
re: #259 mattm
At my school I saw some balcks yell/chant "we finally elected a f***ing n***r!" several times in the middle of a crowded room, then go outside and yell some more.
Let them. It will strengthen people's resolve not to re-elect Bozo.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:15:56pm |
re: #257 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I studied African-American history in college. Unless the black community begins coming down hard on people like that man at Wal-Mart, there will be bloodshed. W.E.B. DuBois planted a virus into the black community which has been growing, unchecked, for a century.
/IMHO, there are two "black Americas"
My pastor is black, and he would have straightened that situation out right quick. I am certain the vast, vast majority of black people want no part of that kind of thing.
My worry is that enough bad behavior will ignite a racist powder keg that's been waiting to go off for a very long time. There are people on the far fringe of both sides who are just waiting for an excuse, it seems.
Ironic, isn't it? We elect a black president, and racial tension goes UP.
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Semper Gumbi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:16:11pm |
re: #285 Occasional Reader
My two cents: I live in a majority black city, and I've seen no untoward behavior of any kind in the last two days, of the sort from the Wal-Mart story.
I would have to agree - although I work in NW and am surrounded by professional of all races - so I wouldn't expect it here. Down in SE - yeah maybe.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:16:12pm |
Interesting audio from the PBS election coverage... Charlie Rose talking to Evan Thomas about the strange spectacle of Obama's acceptance speech. Take home phrase, "the slightly creepy cult of personality".
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Lizard by the Bay Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:16:17pm |
Examples of Obama's "post-racial" Amerikkka:
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:16:27pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:16:35pm |
re: #308 Killian Bundy
He meant that in a loving, supportive way.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:16:44pm |
re: #259 mattm
At my school I saw some balcks yell/chant "we finally elected a f***ing n***r!" several times in the middle of a crowded room, then go outside and yell some more.
Ugh.
I wonder if this stuff will calm down after the inauguration. I pray that it will.
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Semper Gumbi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:17:34pm |
re: #311 DeathtotheSwiss
What about the ambi's?
There should be a law against that type of deviant behavior! ;)
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:17:50pm |
re: #289 so.cal.swede
I'll have to call shenanigans. Although, if that were actually to happen. and the pushed person yelled something "hey! you're an asshole" or something, would he be a racist then?
You think I made it up?
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3 wood Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:17:53pm |
re: #252 Killian Bundy
Ever since President Elect Obama the DOW is down 10%.
/change we can believe in
The only important thing is to be magnanimous in defeat. dont'chaknow?
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Irenike Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:17:55pm |
#187 Occasional Reader
I know there isn’t strict logical consistency in the equation “racism = not electing Obama” therefore “not racism = electing Obama.”
I have my eyes on the bigger prize. I want to eradicate once and for all the myth that minorities are held down in this country because of racism. I am not saying that there are no racists left. I am saying that the country as a whole is not racist. And I am using the logic of the leftist Obama supporters to prove it – however inconsistent that logic might be.
I didn’t set up this race equation. They did. Now let’s hold them to the internal logic of their own system and take away one of their biggest tools of manipulation. I won’t be sorry when old windbags like Jessie and Al finally shut up.
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DeathtotheSwiss Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:17:57pm |
re: #317 DisturbedEma
I am one. . .I refuse to assimulate. . .:)
I think I'll call you "hybrids" from now on. And everyone knows a hybrid can't be trusted!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:03pm |
re: #285 Occasional Reader
My two cents: I live in a majority black city, and I've seen no untoward behavior of any kind in the last two days, of the sort from the Wal-Mart story.
Yes, my post was probably "alarmist" sounding. Sorry. I do NOT believe there would be widespread racial violence in the scenario I constructed. Not at all.
That said, it only took a couple of murderous white supremacist loons in east Texas to drag that poor man to death.
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Daisy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:05pm |
re: #282 DeathtotheSwiss
I thought that was just Rosie O'Donnell.
You are 100% correct. She had me at Roseanne :)
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joncelli Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:12pm |
Dow closes down 443 points. Guess we haven't found the floor yet.
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:23pm |
re: #319 capitalist piglet
Ugh.
I wonder if this stuff will calm down after the inauguration. I pray that it will.
I think the opposite will be true. I fear we may be coming to an impass.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:24pm |
re: #313 capitalist piglet
My pastor is black, and he would have straightened that situation out right quick. I am certain the vast, vast majority of black people want no part of that kind of thing.
My worry is that enough bad behavior will ignite a racist powder keg that's been waiting to go off for a very long time. There are people on the far fringe of both sides who are just waiting for an excuse, it seems.
Ironic, isn't it? We elect a black president, and racial tension goes UP.
The latent effect of his "brilliant" race. . .of course the other "latent" effect is that for the next 4 years, the Daily Shows and Colbert reports will have to make fun of. . .Joe the Plumber?
They have cut their own throats, cannot wait to watch the demise of the rest of "comic tv"
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ClosetConservative Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:41pm |
Dear god...
The lefties have gone batshit crazy.
The Young Democrats group at my schools is trumpeting the arrival of America's entry into the "Brave New World". Have they even read the book?
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Adrenalyn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:42pm |
Charles Barron, New York City Council member -- expressing his resentment toward whites: "You know, some days I get so frustrated I just want to go up to the closest white person and say, 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing,' and then slap him, just for my mental health."
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:18:59pm |
re: #320 Semper Gumbi
There should be a law against that type of deviant behavior! ;)
Nooo, I will resist! And I typed this with BOTH hands. . .FIE~!
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so.cal.swede Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:19:01pm |
re: #323 NC State of Mind
You think I made it up?
hey, you gave us the option of making our own minds up about it.
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macbrooks Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:19:34pm |
Fly-by post:
Where on earth do they find these people? *shakes head*
mac :]
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:19:36pm |
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:19:36pm |
re: #333 Adrenalyn
Charles Barron, New York City Council member -- expressing his resentment toward whites: "You know, some days I get so frustrated I just want to go up to the closest white person and say, 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing,' and then slap him, just for my mental health."
OMG!
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Spider Mensch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:19:37pm |
some one on another thread mentioned Thanksgiving...I just heard Macy's is going to have an obama balloon to go down 5th av in the parade. to keep it realistic the head is going to be about the size of the Good Year blimp! 150 people manning the ropes, hope there's no heavy winds that day.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:19:59pm |
re: #323 NC State of Mind
You think I made it up?
During the Rodney King riots we were 400 miles north in San Jose - and that essentially happened while waiting in a store - a black woman went straight to the front of the line, and said, "I'm first." No one bothered to complain. We figured - let her make and ass out of herself. Big deal.
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Maui Girl Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:20:00pm |
Just watched that Obama National Anthem on the Glenn Beck website. Funny and discouraging at the same time.
I have been thinking about the fact that over the years the United States overall has been seen as the most powerful nation on the planet, both militarily, philanthropically (sp), etc. Who's gonna bail out the world when we fall to likes of socialism/marxism/communism. Who's gonna help us when the going gets tough. I don't want to be a fatalist but when half this country is willing to hand it over blinding to a dangerously, hypnotic, liar I start to get really concerned about my son's future.
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3 wood Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:20:01pm |
re: #308 Killian Bundy
Suddenly Emanuel grabbed his steak knife and, as those who were there remember it, shouted out the name of another enemy, lifted the knife, then brought it down with full force into the table.''Dead!'' he screamed.
The group immediately joined in the cathartic release: ''Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead! Bill Schaefer! Dead!''
/say hello to Obama' new Chieif of Staff
Does that sound to you like Obama wants to unify the country. To listen to those who did not vote for him?
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:20:29pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:20:36pm |
re: #299 nyc redneck
michelle O wore her hate and racism like a badge honor.
and now, that's in the white house.
we will see if she can soften her belligerence now that she must surely be the proudest person in the country.
that will be critical to the tone of race relations in america.
I sincerely hope she changes herself, ... but changing something inside oneself which is that impregnated with strong emotion is very very hard.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:20:56pm |
Cheer up.
After Obama is ridden out of Washington on a rail, he'll be 51 years old.
That will only give him another 30 years to mess around as Ex-President like Jimmy Carter.
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Wilderstad Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:20:59pm |
Such a shame, at one point I thought racism was diminishing to almost zero except for the few bigots that need to select any personal characteristic to use as a hurtful referent. The only people using racism as a cattle prod is Obama and his cult following.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:21:01pm |
re: #279 joncelli
Don't precisely know, but that sounds correct.
Isn't everything licensed by the government?
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:21:04pm |
re: #340 DistantThunder
During the Rodney King riots we were 400 miles north in San Jose - and that essentially happened while waiting in a store - a black woman went straight to the front of the line, and said, "I'm first." No one bothered to complain. We figured - let her make and ass out of herself. Big deal.
I guess that is one way of dealing with it, and classy behavior never goes out of style, even in obamaland. . .
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so.cal.swede Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:21:10pm |
re: #337 NC State of Mind
True.
To be fair though, there are nutcrackers on both sides of the playground, so my shenanigan-calling is actually more of a 'thou sayeth' response in reality.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:21:11pm |
re: #332 ClosetConservative
Dear god...
The lefties have gone batshit crazy.
The
Young Democrats group at my schools is trumpeting the arrival of
America's entry into the "Brave New World". Have they even read the
book?
They probably stopped reading after the part where everyone gets free Soma.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:21:53pm |
re: #291 x-wing
You just don't realize how we've been discriminated against righty.
//and whose bright idea were those left-hand thread propane bottles'? I'm a lefty and they pissed me off.
Just so you know, my new M1911 has an ambidextrous thumb safety.
Celebrate diversity!
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:22:29pm |
re: #341 Maui Girl
Just watched that Obama National Anthem on the Glenn Beck website. Funny and discouraging at the same time.
I have been thinking about the fact that over the years the United States overall has been seen as the most powerful nation on the planet, both militarily, philanthropically (sp), etc. Who's gonna bail out the world when we fall to likes of socialism/marxism/communism. Who's gonna help us when the going gets tough. I don't want to be a fatalist but when half this country is willing to hand it over blinding to a dangerously, hypnotic, liar I start to get really concerned about my son's future.
And when the other half of us fold our arms over our chest and says to a government intent on ruling over us - "Try and make me," should be interesting.
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krycek Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:22:31pm |
re: #237 JacksonTn
If they take away talk radio ... I wonder how it will be on XM ...I wonder how many people subscribe to XM for the talk radio and I am not talking about Air America ...
A revival of the fairness doctrine in its old form probably would not apply to satellite radio or cable tv. The old doctrine was an FCC policy for broadcast radio and tv channels (the ones that come freely into your home). Satellite and cable are considered alternative sources and haven't been regulated so far. However that doesn't mean the new administration won't try to rewrite the policy to include satellite, cable, and internet.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:22:31pm |
re: #263 Daisy
Wow. This from a woman who believes high enough heat can't melt steel. Cripes, one more consequence of Obama as POTUS .. Roseanne will become more inflated .. a danger in and of itself.
I believe it was Rosie O'Donnell (not Roseanne Barr) who made that idiotic quip about not being able to melt steel with fire.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:22:43pm |
re: #340 DistantThunder
During the Rodney King riots we were 400 miles north in San Jose - and that essentially happened while waiting in a store - a black woman went straight to the front of the line, and said, "I'm first." No one bothered to complain. We figured - let her make and ass out of herself. Big deal.
The only time I ever saw something similar here, it was obvious the woman was not mentally all together there.
re: #349 so.cal.swede
To be fair though, there are nutcrackers on both sides of the playground, so my shenanigan-calling is actually more of a 'thou sayeth' response in reality.
Yes, exactly. I live in a town that is 50-50 racially, and I have neither seen nor heard of anything like this happening here. Thank goodness.
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:22:47pm |
So, what happens when so many people, pin their entire lifes hope on someone to deliver them from evil, and that person turns out to be meaningless?
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rustynail Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:08pm |
re: #52 NC State of Mind
All things will not be possible until 'they' have a canidate that does not take advantage of blacks and prop them up as a priveleged underclass.
Wait, don't tell that to Peggy the Moocher (Peggy Joseph) [Link: michellemalkin.com...]
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:32pm |
OOH!
Raining here.
We're finally gonna get some cool weather! yay!
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:37pm |
re: #352 DistantThunder
And when the other half of us fold our arms over our chest and says to a government intent on ruling over us - "Try and make me," should be interesting.
Hey, the one will deal with us all in good time, remember he said he WILL be our president. . .smirk, sneer
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The Other Les Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:37pm |
re: #316 Lizard by the Bay
Examples of Obama's "post-racial" Amerikkka:
I did delivery for Pizza Hut for three and a half years.
Not tipping the driver was common behavior for black customers. Especially welfare cases and overt political activists.
The only group that was worse than Blacks were the Hmong. No tips at all.
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vxbush Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:43pm |
re: #357 rightside
So, what happens when so many people, pin their entire lifes hope on someone to deliver them from evil, and that person turns out to be meaningless?
They look for another person, rather than for the Truth. So they will be disappointed again and again.
/limited religious message
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Wilderstad Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:47pm |
re: #346 Wilderstad
D'oh ! 'is' should be 'are' PIMF Is your friend and I keep forgetting to use it when I edit a phrase.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:50pm |
re: #332 ClosetConservative
Dear god...
The lefties have gone batshit crazy.
The Young Democrats group at my schools is trumpeting the arrival of America's entry into the "Brave New World". Have they even read the book?
Yes, and they were inspired.
On a related note, I recall seeing a "peace protester" in London holding up a sign that read "Peace in Our Time!" No, he was not aware of the irony.
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CIA Reject Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:23:55pm |
re: #248 Occasional Reader
And I'd say more to the point, why do all the libs keep pretending that we haven't already been having incessant "discussions about race" for at least the last forty years? It almost makes you think that "discussion about race" is... oh, some kind of euphemism, for something else...
Like reparations...
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:04pm |
re: #357 rightside
So, what happens when so many people, pin their entire lifes hope on someone to deliver them from evil, and that person turns out to be meaningless?
RACISM kept him from helping usss
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Catttt Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:07pm |
"An Obama presidency does not herald the end of racism in America. Obama isn't 'post-racial.' He isn't the messiah whose coming ends bigotry and inequality for all time," said [Cynthia Tucker], who writes for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper."He'll just be the president," she said.
OK, Cool. It is what it is. I am down with that.
DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN RIDICULE HIS DUMBO EARS NOW?
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AmericanPoliticalOrphan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:15pm |
Racism has been dead for some time except that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have to make a living somehow. Fanning the flames is their only way.
Racism didn't impact my vote, I made a judgement based on content of character. Come on, its the 21st Century. Let's move on, nothing to see here.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:16pm |
re: #357 rightside
So, what happens when so many people, pin their entire lifes hope on someone to deliver them from evil, and that person turns out to be meaningless?
They will find a scapegoat - and by they - I mean not just the O-bots - but the leadership including Obama himself. Remember the Jews?
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:21pm |
re: #342 3 wood
Does that sound to you like Obama wants to unify the country. To listen to those who did not vote for him?
/Magic Eight Ball says, "are you [expletive deleted] kidding me?"
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:22pm |
re: #302 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Agreed. In History class, Booker T. Washington always got the shaft, while W.E.B. DuBois was lauded.
I hear that shaft is one bad motherf...
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so.cal.swede Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:35pm |
re: #346 Wilderstad
Such a shame, at one point I thought racism was diminishing to almost zero except for the few bigots that need to select any personal characteristic to use as a hurtful referent. The only people using racism as a cattle prod is Obama and his cult following.
I say we ignore the race baiters.
Although my father in law (american of mexican descent) told me last week:
"Obama isn't gonna win because people won't vote for him because he is black, and that is why I am not voting for him."
I got so uncomfortable i didn't bother clarifying if he meant "i'm not voting for obama because others aren't" or, "i'm not voting for obama because he's black"
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Lumyrra Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:24:59pm |
re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yes. Therefore, you shouldn't eat them.
/
Well I can't if they don't exist.
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gymnast Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:25:18pm |
Talking with my Man, The Reverend Al this mornin' and Al was happier than an Islamist sawing a head off. Al says that Obama gettin' elected is as good as owning a gold mine when the price of gold doubles. He figures that now even small companies are going to need strategic affirmative action consulting contracts. The Reverend Al figures that he an Jesse are going to be "Economic Typhoons". I asked Al if what he really meant was "Economic Tycoons. and he got real mad about that. Then he thought about it for a while and said "I don't care if we done be phoons or coons as long as we done gets the gold". Al said he "never thought he was gonna see the day when he could play the race card with a stacked deck" and that now "that day has done come".
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The Other Les Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:25:27pm |
re: #332 ClosetConservative
Dear god...
The lefties have gone batshit crazy.
The Young Democrats group at my schools is trumpeting the arrival of America's entry into the "Brave New World". Have they even read the book?
Why should they read for themselves when knowledge is imparted to them directly by some authority?
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joncelli Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:01pm |
re: #347 bosforus
Isn't everything licensed by the government?
Everything except stupidity, and it's only a matter of time.
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Maximu§ Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:05pm |
I just came back from Fort Knox and almost all of the recruits sitting in the graduation ceremony were WHITE. I counted one Black, I asked my son about it and he told me this guy was a "real" African Man from Africa and he is well liked because he is a hard worker, funny and he wants to help out the country that helped him out...I'm told he also has a cool accent.
He doesn't have that "chip" on his shoulder or the baggage that many Americans Blacks have weighed themselves down with. I am sorry to say that they have chained themselves down. Its not the White Man keeping them down, its themselves.
sorry for the long post.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:06pm |
re: #285 Occasional Reader
My two cents: I live in a majority black city, and I've seen no untoward behavior of any kind in the last two days, of the sort from the Wal-Mart story.
I'm in Seattle, and neither have I - but I don't find it impossible to believe. Just the other day, Black Panthers intimidated people at a polling place. I never thought I'd see that either.
In any case, there is bound to be a lot of anecdotal stuff out there, but I think it will stay very limited. Hopefully, this sort of thing will die down quickly, after the post-election "euphoria" of some wears off.
It's an effed-up way to express happiness, I gotta say.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:06pm |
re: #357 rightside
So, what happens when so many people, pin their entire lifes hope on someone to deliver them from evil, and that person turns out to be meaningless?
or evil himself ?
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nyc redneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:15pm |
re: #344 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I sincerely hope she changes herself, ... but changing something inside oneself which is that impregnated with strong emotion is very very hard.
she has spent a lot of time w/ a chip on her shoulder.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:21pm |
re: #313 capitalist piglet
My pastor is black, and he would have straightened that situation out right quick. I am certain the vast, vast majority of black people want no part of that kind of thing.
My worry is that enough bad behavior will ignite a racist powder keg that's been waiting to go off for a very long time. There are people on the far fringe of both sides who are just waiting for an excuse, it seems.
Ironic, isn't it? We elect a black president, and racial tension goes UP.
Many blacks would straighten it out DAMN fast. The problem is, they're given no visibilty in the media. Cosby is patronized -- might as well be laughed at.
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3 wood Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:21pm |
re: #343 Killian Bundy
Yep, I now think the DOW will bottom out about 7500.
So we have another 1200 points to drop.
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PAgirlinNC Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:22pm |
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:31pm |
I think people may have enough of this when they make a play to rename the White House ... and don't slam me for saying it ... I am not trying to stir up crap ... I am just saying I have heard it on left blogs before ...
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:26:53pm |
I posted a new bumper sticker here.
Several of you asked me where to find it. Link here
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:27:01pm |
re: #121 wolfie
There is NO reason to discuss ANY politics with kids below the high school level. This business of asking 8 yr olds what they think about current events is ridiculous.
Your video shows exactly why it should be FORBIDDEN. That teacher should be fired, but she won't be.Sickening.
I would suggest locating the school, contacting the principle and schoolboard with links to the video, and politely but firmly pointing out that this flies in the face of any sort of educational theory, not to mention plain old common sense. They might be tempted to blow you off under normal circumstances, but the existence of a tape, audio or video, does wonders to capture their attention and make them uneasy about their job future.
According to this article - [Link: tundratabloid.blogspot.com...] - she's in Asheville, North Carolina and her name is Diantha Harris. Here's the school district website: [Link: www.asheville.k12.nc.us...]
Not sure which school she's at; a more diligent search might turn something up. I can't confirm that she's actually employed by this district, either.
Here's a page with the contact information for the school board members: [Link: www.asheville.k12.nc.us...]
Keep it civil, especially until we're certain this wretch works in this district. I emailed everyone on the school board; if I get any reply, I will post it somewhere on LGF.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:27:06pm |
re: #373 Iron Fist
his Weather Underground buddies
/tickets for the reunion tour go on sale in January
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:27:11pm |
re: #378 Maximu§
Congratulations to Maximus Junior. God bless him and the men and women he serves with.
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:27:16pm |
re: #271 DistantThunder
Hitler once promised a girl in a crowd that he would find her a husband. Say anything to get elected.
Hey, did The Zero offer to do that for us single gals? Is that why 70% of single women went for the big 0. Damnnn, if I had known that I might have voted for him.
/
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:27:20pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:28:00pm |
I'll just HOPE that I'm still alive to take advantage of affirmative action...And I'm WHITE!
In 1983 I was next in line to foreman a large job in Calif...
But Alas ...I was not bilingual! In 1983 ! Sheeesh
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:28:12pm |
re: #386 jorline
I posted a new bumper sticker here.
Several of you asked me where to find it. Link here
I have one at my internet store too. They have been a good seller.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:28:14pm |
re: #387 SixDegrees
I would suggest locating the school, contacting the principle and schoolboard with links to the video, and politely but firmly pointing out that this flies in the face of any sort of educational theory, not to mention plain old common sense. They might be tempted to blow you off under normal circumstances, but the existence of a tape, audio or video, does wonders to capture their attention and make them uneasy about their job future.
According to this article - [Link: tundratabloid.blogspot.com...] - she's in Asheville, North Carolina and her name is Diantha Harris. Here's the school district website: [Link: www.asheville.k12.nc.us...]
Not sure which school she's at; a more diligent search might turn something up. I can't confirm that she's actually employed by this district, either.
Here's a page with the contact information for the school board members: [Link: www.asheville.k12.nc.us...]
Keep it civil, especially until we're certain this wretch works in this district. I emailed everyone on the school board; if I get any reply, I will post it somewhere on LGF.
She would have to be found in the nude with some young boy to be booted from the school or even reprimanded - union you know.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:28:35pm |
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:28:42pm |
Something that keeps gnawing at me... we've seen already Putin wanting to come back to power for 12 years, NorKs refusing to give up their nuclear ambition, Iran doing the same thing, Russia moving missiles to counter our shield, etc.
CBBHO (hat tip MandyManners) asks Joe Biden to be VP because of his vast foreign policy "gravitas", and all I can hear in my head is greasy joe saying, "C'mon chuck, stand up!...oh god love ya, what am I talking about?"
Those who wish ill on us must be licking their chops...
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:28:57pm |
re: #375 gymnast
Talking with my Man, The Reverend Al this mornin' and Al was happier than an Islamist sawing a head off.
Heh.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:28:58pm |
re: #333 Adrenalyn
Charles Barron, New York City Council member -- expressing his resentment toward whites: "You know, some days I get so frustrated I just want to go up to the closest white person and say, 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing,' and then slap him, just for my mental health."
I rest the case I made in an earlier comment. He needs his "mental health" like he needs air to breath. He is a slave to it.
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Celtic Templar Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:29:14pm |
I don't know about anyone else, but there can never be a claim of the system holding any minority down. There are no affirmative action programs for electing the POTUS. While I may despise the man's values and morality, he did not become President by an equal opportunity committee. SO, the good news is any cries of racism are now relegated to incidental, not systemic. The "white man" is no longer holding anyone down ... maybe it is time to get a job and pay taxes for those that live off of the victimization dole.
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SaneInMN Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:29:35pm |
I guess if your a black republican running for high office and you get Oreos thrown at you by white and black democrats, such an offense does not imply racism. Might want to check with Michael Steele on that one. And btw, following the Obamatrons logic, since Steele, Swan, and Blackwell all ran as republicans and were defeated, all who voted against them (mainly lib Dems) are racists. Right?
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:29:35pm |
re: #382 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Many blacks would straighten it out DAMN fast. The problem is, they're given no visibilty in the media. Cosby is patronized -- might as well be laughed at.
The irony is that the white guy he pushed probably voted for Obama.
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:29:48pm |
re: #375 gymnast
Talking with my Man, The Reverend Al this mornin' and Al was happier than an Islamist sawing a head off. Al says that Obama gettin' elected is as good as owning a gold mine when the price of gold doubles. He figures that now even small companies are going to need strategic affirmative action consulting contracts. The Reverend Al figures that he an Jesse are going to be "Economic Typhoons". I asked Al if what he really meant was "Economic Tycoons. and he got real mad about that. Then he thought about it for a while and said "I don't care if we done be phoons or coons as long as we done gets the gold". Al said he "never thought he was gonna see the day when he could play the race card with a stacked deck" and that now "that day has done come".
And there, my friend, is a prima facie argument that David Duke and his ilk will use to revive the Klan. Unless BHO does something overt to stop this shit--just to shut up people like this , there is going to be bloodshed. God help us all.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:29:50pm |
re: #113 Salem
Anybody see Chocolate News last night? Pretty funny if a little awkward at times. I was a little annoyed with the close, though, where Grier said "From picking cotton in the sun, to flying high on Air Force One!"
I wished I could ask him which one of Obama's forefathers had to pick cotton in the sun. The white ones, maybe?
There was a funny skit on KKK Obama supporters. "Yes we klan!"
I particularly like the part where DAG flat out told Obama, "You better not F* this up."
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gymnast Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:29:59pm |
re: #383 3 wood
My intuition is somewhere in the sixes. God help us if it goes to the fives.
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FightingBack Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:05pm |
re: #122 Iron Fist
That would have been funny! Where do you think Jackson will fit in an Obama Administration? Ambassador to the UN? Sec State? I don't know where they'll stick him, but you know they're going to "take advantage of his special talents" somewhere.
I hope that we won't need a "hostage negotiator" soon.
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PISSED Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:16pm |
I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS COUNTRY..
See this about "MY President IS BLACK"
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:17pm |
re: #332 ClosetConservative
Dear god...
The lefties have gone batshit crazy.
The Young Democrats group at my schools is trumpeting the arrival of America's entry into the "Brave New World". Have they even read the book?
Remember the sign "Peace in Our Time"" carried by the anti-Iraq war protester in Britain?
The guy had no idea of the context of that phrase. It highlighted (highlit?) his ignorance of everything else that was going on.
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soxfan4life Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:25pm |
re: #2 Irene NYC
G-d, they're gonna milk racism for all they can til the cows come home...
America you're cows are coming home ... to roost.
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wolfie Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:37pm |
re: #350 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
They probably stopped reading after the part where everyone gets free Soma.
Or maybe not. There are many today who do not see Brave New World as dystopian. A lot of academics, in particular, really believe that NICE and PEACEFUL are the way to go. See Richard Rorty, e.g., whose works are very chic. It's not that he doesn't see the value of freedom, he just thinks it's worth it to give up freedom for the sake of...NICE.
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Maximu§ Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:43pm |
re: #389 mama winger
Congratulations to Maximus Junior. God bless him and the men and women he serves with.
Thanks Babydoll, he's head'n to Fort Drum NY, 10th Light Infantry.
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x-wing Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:49pm |
re: #351 Occasional Reader
Just so you know, my new M1911 has an ambidextrous thumb safety.
Celebrate diversity!
What brand? I spent $750 on a Kimber 45 a few years ago, and still have to use my damn index finger. Same with my Mossberg 500.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:50pm |
re: #351 Occasional Reader
Just so you know, my new M1911 has an ambidextrous thumb safety.
Celebrate diversity!
Yeah, well my CZ is half black and half white. . SO THERE.
Incidentally, I dislike (as in won't carry) pistols that have external safeties.
That's just one more thing to go wrong when your life is on the line and you have tunnel vision and loss of fine motor control from pumping adrenaline.
Its not that the safety itself can fail (although that is possible) its that in the heat of the moment, you can forget to disengage the safety, or (worse) accidentally re-engage it when you need that shot.
Obviously, this is a matter of personal preference, but I can't tell you the number of times I've been at the range or sport shooting where I've tried to pull the trigger on a locked gun by mistake. I'd rather not have that happen when someone is trying to kill me!
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:30:55pm |
re: #386 jorline
I posted a new bumper sticker here.
Several of you asked me where to find it. Link here
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:31:07pm |
re: #364 Kenneth
Yes, and they were inspired.
On a related note, I recall seeing a "peace protester" in London holding up a sign that read "Peace in Our Time!" No, he was not aware of the irony.
Okay, I did NOT read yours before mine, clearly.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:31:22pm |
re: #399 Celtic Templar
I don't know about anyone else, but there can never be a claim of the system holding any minority down. There are no affirmative action programs for electing the POTUS. While I may despise the man's values and morality, he did not become President by an equal opportunity committee. SO, the good news is any cries of racism are now relegated to incidental, not systemic. The "white man" is no longer holding anyone down ... maybe it is time to get a job and pay taxes for those that live off of the victimization dole.
Nice try whitey. . .but like so many historical "interpretations" the truth may not be oh, what is the word. . .convenient. . .so whites will be held responsible when the one fails to deliver all his promised goods. . .when people are still paying their bills and HIGHER taxes. . .
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Daisy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:31:29pm |
re: #344 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I sincerely hope she changes herself, ... but changing something inside oneself which is that impregnated with strong emotion is very very hard.
Yes. And willingness to change is a prerequisite. I don't think she's willing and I think she's fine w/being bitter.
I believe not a word from the Obamas (or their devotees) about their purported desire for 'unity'. What I have seen is a willful (and successful) effort to construct a united front against diversity. All the long faces on the Left moaning about 'how divided this country is' have said nothing more to me than that they resent view points other than their own. For the left, differences constitute 'division'. The Fairness Doctrine is evidence of this fear and loathing.
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3 wood Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:31:31pm |
re: #370 Killian Bundy
/Magic Eight Ball says, "are you [expletive deleted] kidding me?"
For anybody not familiar with Chicago politics, by appointing Rahm Emanuel Chief of Staff, the President-elect just gave the finger to those who did not support him.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:31:32pm |
re: #411 Maximu§
Thanks Babydoll, he's head'n to Fort Drum NY, 10th Light Infantry.
Light Infantry. Is that with Diet M-16's ?
/ ducks and runs like hell ...
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:31:36pm |
The differences between us and past totalitarian regimes is that
we have the bill of rights - for now
we have weapons - for now
we have the internet - for now
we have talk radio - for now
And most importantly we have the highest standard of living in human history - and Obama supporters are expecting him to help maintain that.
They are in for a huge shock.
People are going to be very angry.
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tappin52 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:32:08pm |
re: #258 looking closely
If I'm "healed" how come I'm nauseous and have a headache?
Are you pregnant?
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Adrenalyn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:32:09pm |
my prediction is the markets drop to 8,000 or thereabouts
and it closes for a week
signed, Adrenalyn,
"be the opposition, not the subjugated"
I am having cards printed with that slogan
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Maximu§ Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:32:49pm |
re: #419 mama winger
Light Infantry. Is that with Diet M-16's ?
/ ducks and runs like hell ...
Oh, your gonna get a spank'n!
Its the 10th Mountain Division, Light Infantry...I guess that means they walk?
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aggieann Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:32:51pm |
I don't get the lefties. They tell us that if we elect Obama, race will go down the memory hole. But all I see on leftie blogs right now are people screeching about how the "normal smart voters" defeated the "racist redneck hicks", and we'll all be whole again. Once we make some more overtures and apologies for our evil hickish attitudes.
Substitute Islamofascists for lefties and you've got a powerful argument for why appeasement never succeeds.
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:32:56pm |
I wonder what women would do if a woman was elected president ...would we be able to push men aside and get to the front of the line? ...
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:33:02pm |
re: #403 CyanSnowHawk
I particularly like the part where DAG flat out told Obama, "You better not F* this up."
Google Debra Dickerson and the colbert report. . .she said in 2007 that politically speaking. . .he is NOT black, he is African African American
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:33:07pm |
re: #396 rightside
Or how about Biden suggesting the US "give Iran $200 million to show them we're not against the Arabs". ?!?
That's a hell of a lot of stupid to pack into one little idea.
Or how about Biden's plan to deal with Iraq by dividing it into 3 separate ethnic states?
That's not jsut stupid, it's dangerously stupid.
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Salem Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:33:13pm |
re: #403 CyanSnowHawk
I particularly like the part where DAG flat out told Obama, "You better not F* this up."
Yeah, that was refreshingly frank, I thought. To bad he didn't mention pushing for reparations as an example.
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:33:28pm |
re: #393 mama winger
I have one at my internet store too. They have been a good seller.
How are you mw?
Everyone buy from mama winger.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:33:35pm |
re: #414 logboy
Hey ! You made that at my site ? ! COOL !
I also have this one:
[Link: www.zazzle.com...]
and this
[Link: www.zazzle.com...]
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UFO TOFU Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:33:45pm |
re: #296 Ringo the Gringo
I won't believe that Obama has won the election until spell-check stops highlighting his name.
My spell check has been in the tank for Obama for awhile. Every time I type something it screams "Change".
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:33:48pm |
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Adrenalyn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:08pm |
re: #424 aggieann
Substitute Islamofascists for lefties and you've got a powerful argument for why appeasement never succeeds.
good point except the left has also and always been our enemy
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Maui Girl Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:12pm |
re: #77 mattm
OT:
Miclelle Obama:
[Link: www.reuters.com...]Even the 1st lady doesn't know what to do.
Oh Laura, lie, lie, lie. Give her really bad fashion advice and tell Mich to open her mouth and let fly whatever's on her mind. Be herself!
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:15pm |
re: #280 bombarafat
of course racism is alive, think of all the people who voted for the one just because of his skin color.
You forgot to capitalize. The bus to re-education camp will be picking you up at ...
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:23pm |
re: #425 JacksonTn
I wonder what women would do if a woman was elected president ...would we be able to push men aside and get to the front of the line? ...
Based on how Palin was treated, would any women want to run?
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schlagerman Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:24pm |
Democrats have a vested interest in having as many poor people as possible. Otherwise, they can say goodbye to their political positions. Why is that so hard to see for so many people?
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RememberSekhmet? Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:24pm |
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3 wood Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:30pm |
re: #404 gymnast
My intuition is somewhere in the sixes. God help us if it goes to the fives.
Well, give President-elect Obama time to make a few more Marxist statements and that may happen.
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:40pm |
re: #401 capitalist piglet
The irony is that the white guy he pushed probably voted for Obama.
Hahaha. Probably. Since I caused a little rukus with that Wal-Mart [true :) ] story, may I follow up with a story from the local paper?
A woman was campaigning for Obama and asked a middle aged man if he was really a "Marine for McCain?" He asked if she was really an "African American for Obama." They began talking, and another black woman showed up. They ended by holding hands in a small circle and praying for the fate of the nation.
Always remember, we have far more in common than we realize. Maybe even with the Kos Kids.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:34:42pm |
re: #429 jorline
How are you mw?
Everyone buy from mama winger.
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:05pm |
re: #423 Maximu§
Oh, your gonna get a spank'n!
Its the 10th Mountain Division, Light Infantry...I guess that means they walk?
Yes, it means we don't have armor, vehicles, and we carry all our crap on our back. Its an oxymoron though, there's nothing light about an 80 pound pack.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:21pm |
re: #425 JacksonTn
I wonder what women would do if a woman was elected president ...would we be able to push men aside and get to the front of the line? ...
You could probably do that now, if you were inclined to. : )
I personally am not. I like to wait my turn, maybe even offer someone with fewer items a place in front of me, and I even take pride in paying my own bills. I'm a dinosaur, I admit
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:31pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:33pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:42pm |
re: #420 DistantThunder
So that will be their target list.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:44pm |
re: #415 Silhouette
GMTA! I'm glad more people than just me saw that fool.
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NC State of Mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:49pm |
re: #440 3 wood
Well, give President-elect Obama time to make a few more Marxist statements and that may happen.
You think its going to the sixes?
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:53pm |
re: #442 mama winger
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
I am so very sorry!
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:35:54pm |
re: #436 DisturbedEma
Based on how Palin was treated, would any women want to run?
If we do not put up more women ... they win ...Palin already yesterday or today ... she has thick skin ...
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:36:09pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:36:51pm |
re: #418 3 wood
For anybody not familiar with Chicago politics, by appointing Rahm Emanuel Chief of Staff, the President-elect just gave the finger to those who did not support him.
UP-ding!
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:00pm |
re: #442 mama winger
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
Oh no...that's horrible. I'm so sorry. Prayers for you and yours.
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Daisy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:01pm |
re: #355 looking closely
I believe it was Rosie O'Donnell (not Roseanne Barr) who made that idiotic quip about not being able to melt steel with fire.
You're quite right. Call me superficial, but for my purposes, those 2 women are basically interchangeable.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:18pm |
re: #451 DisturbedEma
I am so very sorry!
Thanks. It is hardest on my stepfather. He is elderly and has a bad heart. This does not help it.
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Darwin Akbar Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:28pm |
It's par for the course to note that, for this story, Reuters sought out that noted intellectual, Chuck D.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:40pm |
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Eowyn2 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:42pm |
re: #4 obageegee
Ok this has to be the biggest oxymoron of the day
‘Obama is going to raise the level of intelligence,’ says Roseanne Barr
Someone should attempt to raise her intelligence.
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scratch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:48pm |
re: #357 rightside
So, what happens when so many people, pin their entire lifes hope on someone to deliver them from evil, and that person turns out to be meaningless?
I think this will be the case with a great many of Obama's constituents. You probably saw the video of the woman talking about gas and the mortgage, and how Obama was going to "help her." Well, to me, her most important words were not gas and mortgage, but, "I don't have to worry." Meaningless or not--even if he is a great president--I think there are a whole lot of people who are going to be shocked that life is not just smooth sailing once "their man" is in office.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:51pm |
re: #412 x-wing
What brand? I spent $750 on a Kimber 45 a few years ago, and still have to use my damn index finger. Same with my Mossberg 500.
Kimber Warrior.
How is your Mossberg 500's safety "hand" sensitive? I have a 590, and it's a tang-mounted safety... so it's right in the middle, no "handedness" about it.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:37:51pm |
re: #441 NC State of Mind
Good story, there. That's more the America I know. Please let that be the dominant one.
(And I believe you.)
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:38:09pm |
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:38:15pm |
Check this out.
If I were that child's parent I can guarantee that wretched excuse for a teacher would have more trouble than she can handle.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:38:42pm |
re: #413 looking closely
Yeah, well my CZ is half black and half white. . SO THERE.
Incidentally, I dislike (as in won't carry) pistols that have external safeties.
That's just one more thing to go wrong when your life is on the line and you have tunnel vision and loss of fine motor control from pumping adrenaline.
Its not that the safety itself can fail (although that is possible) its that in the heat of the moment, you can forget to disengage the safety, or (worse) accidentally re-engage it when you need that shot.
Obviously, this is a matter of personal preference, but I can't tell you the number of times I've been at the range or sport shooting where I've tried to pull the trigger on a locked gun by mistake. I'd rather not have that happen when someone is trying to kill me!
A 1911 is so diverse that it will allow Condition 1 carry (cocked and locked). The safety was forced into the design. Browning did not have it in the original.
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:00pm |
re: #377 joncelli
Everything except stupidity, and it's only a matter of time.
How does that Einstein quote go? There are only two guarantees in this life - that the universe has no end and human stupidity - and I'm not sure about the universe.
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Maximu§ Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:08pm |
re: #443 logboy
Yes, it means we don't have armor, vehicles, and we carry all our crap on our back. Its an oxymoron though, there's nothing light about an 80 pound pack.
I remember that 80 lb pack feeling like 200 lbs after the first 10 miles...I won't even talk about what I felt like after 20 miles.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:16pm |
When parody becomes reality...
Will the new president be a wide enough target for humor?
Will political comedy be easier or more difficult under President Obama? That was a key question discussed by a panel of experts here Wednesday night.
"The Daily Show" co-creator and political humorist Lizz Winstead, who hosted the debate, shrugged off the suggestion that the president-elect was too tough a target for real punchlines. She said likely jokes about Obama in the White House would revolve around how he handles power.
Roseanne Barr argued that the level of comedic sophistication will rise compared with the Bush era. "Obama is going to raise the level of intelligence (of jokes)," she said.
Reminds me of the clip Charles posted yesterday from the Onion. They have no idea what to do next.
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:20pm |
re: #444 capitalist piglet
You could probably do that now, if you were inclined to. : )
I personally am not. I like to wait my turn, maybe even offer someone with fewer items a place in front of me, and I even take pride in paying my own bills. I'm a dinosaur, I admit
Me too ... I would never do that ... in fact cutting in line is one of my biggest peeves ...I hate it when people do that ...
Maybe if a woman won the presidency ... we could all go around topless to show our female pride ...Yeah, that's the ticket ...we should say that ahead of time and maybe we might win some votes ...
But, then I have seen some of Zombie's pictures of women going topless who maybe should not ...so I guess that is not a good idea ...
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:36pm |
re: #457 mama winger
Thanks. It is hardest on my stepfather. He is elderly and has a bad heart. This does not help it.
Mama, please tell him, for me, that my heart goes out to him.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:41pm |
re: #235 bosforus
That and the fact that the Government "owns" the airwaves, and therefore have the right to determine what can be said over them.
/censureship? What censureship
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wolfie Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:43pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:45pm |
re: #413 looking closely
Incidentally, I dislike (as in won't carry) pistols that have external safeties.
For a carry pistol, I would agree*. But I live in DC, so no carry possible for the moment. And anyway, I've long wanted a 1911.
(*Although some cops like an external safety, on the theory that if a bad guy gets the gun away from you in a tussle, that two or three second gap while he figures out which switch "turns on the gun" could save your life.)
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:48pm |
re: #467 OldLineTexan
Do you think I, a woman with small-ish hands and not much arm strength could handle a 1911 ? I have been looking at that one.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:53pm |
re: #457 mama winger
Thanks. It is hardest on my stepfather. He is elderly and has a bad heart. This does not help it.
I will keep you in my prayers. . .{MAMA and family}
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:55pm |
re: #442 mama winger
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
I sorry to hear about your loss, mama. Please accept condolences and prayers for you and your family.
{mama winger}
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:56pm |
re: #443 logboy
Yes, it means we don't have armor, vehicles, and we carry all our crap on our back. Its an oxymoron though, there's nothing light about an 80 pound pack.
That was my uncle's last unit.
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rustynail Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:39:58pm |
re: #104 gop_patriot
/Homeschool mom to three kids. Well, two, now- the oldest graduated this past May! :)
Good for you! Wish that more of our citizens would home school! The best young adults I know were home schooled.
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Maximu§ Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:40:09pm |
re: #442 mama winger
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
WTF? I am so sorry.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:40:21pm |
re: #456 Daisy
You're quite right. Call me superficial, but for my purposes, those 2 women are basically interchangeable.
Well. . .
FWIW, I think Barr is actually Conservative.
Wasn't she the one who said (paraphrasing) when she got on a plane she wanted a pilot who had actually flown one before, rather than the one who was most "inspiring"?
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:40:27pm |
re: #473 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Mama, please tell him, for me, that my heart goes out to him.
I will . Thanks so much.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:40:39pm |
re: #466 rightside
Hell of a to-do list for a man who has never run anything bigger than a small charity board before. Heck, leader of the free world... how hard can it be?
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Eowyn2 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:40:49pm |
re: #423 Maximu§
Oh, your gonna get a spank'n!
Its the 10th Mountain Division, Light Infantry...I guess that means they walk?
travel light. take only what you need to survive.
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:41:15pm |
re: #469 Maximu§
I remember that 80 lb pack feeling like 200 lbs after the first 10 miles...I won't even talk about what I felt like after 20 miles.
I ran the 12 miles in Air Assault School. Came in a hair over 2 hours. ;)
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:41:39pm |
Thanks guys for all your kind words and prayers. I am afraid I will miss acknowledging someone, so I just want to thank you all. You are great friends to have when the going gets tough.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:41:51pm |
re: #478 mama winger
Do you think I, a woman with small-ish hands and not much arm strength could handle a 1911 ? I have been looking at that one.
I have a full-size frame. There are smaller ones that are very nice.
However...try to find a place to rent one before you invest...do it soon!
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:41:59pm |
re: #457 mama winger
Thanks. It is hardest on my stepfather. He is elderly and has a bad heart. This does not help it.
Mama Winger,
So very sorry. You all have had a rough time lately.
Prayers to you and your family.
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x-wing Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:42:19pm |
re: #462 Occasional Reader
Kimber Warrior.
How is your Mossberg 500's safety "hand" sensitive? I have a 590, and it's a tang-mounted safety... so it's right in the middle, no "handedness" about it.
My mistake on the Mossberg, its the pump release not the safety.
//minor brain cramp.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:42:53pm |
re: #484 looking closely
Ummm... Roseanne Barr campaigned for Cynthia McKinney.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:43:01pm |
{MamaWinger}
I deeply sorry for your loss.
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:43:06pm |
re: #457 mama winger
Thanks. It is hardest on my stepfather. He is elderly and has a bad heart. This does not help it.
Mama Winger ... I would really watch him right now ...but I am sure you already are ...I had a nephew who killed himself about 12 years ago ...my oldest sister was his mother and they were extremely close ... she was beyond despair ... seven weeks later she killed herself ...suicide is such a difficult thing for people to comprehend and lends itself to feelings of guilt by those left behind especially the parents ...it is the worst kind of stress on a parent ...
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:43:20pm |
re: #450 NC State of Mind
You think its going to the sixes?
/if we break under th last bottom test, ~7700, you can stick a fork in this country, as they said in The Abyss, "this here's a bottomless pit, baby, two and a half miles, straight down"
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:43:34pm |
On average African Americans earn less, are more likely to be unemployed and have higher rates of infant mortality and a lower life expectancy. They are more likely to be arrested and jailed and serve longer sentences than other racial groups
How much of this relates to their higher than average high school drop out rates, because "it doesn't relate to them"?
Perhaps a lot of this is also due to the Gangsta Rap being played. We live in a lower middle class neighborhood. We have several of these youths that dress like urban youth, talk like them, quit school when legally able to, flash the signs around and generally behave like they were raised in the inner city. They have never known want or need in their lives. The fathers (and in two cases both parents) are either senior NCOs in the Army or Warrant Officers. You got me as to a solution to this nationwide problem.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:43:42pm |
re: #461 scratch
I think there are a whole lot of people who are going to be shocked that life is not just smooth sailing once "their man" is in office.
I think a lot of people think that life is smooth sailing for whatever group they considered privledged.
They might be shocked to find out that white anglo-saxon protestants still get rejection letters from job interviews, have store security watch them to make sure they don't shoplift, get pulled over for suspicous driving, etc.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:44:14pm |
re: #467 OldLineTexan
A 1911 is so diverse that it will allow Condition 1 carry (cocked and locked). The safety was forced into the design. Browning did not have it in the original.
I think carrying a 1911 Condition 1 with no safety would be a little more excitement than I need in my life.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:44:17pm |
re: #498 JacksonTn
Dear G-d! That is so horrible and sad. It must still be very painful for the family.
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opnion Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:44:25pm |
The racial victimization industry is to big & profitable to be declared no longer necessary.
How much money has been thrown at racial inequality over the last 40 plus years? What has the return on investtment been?
Clearly the problem does not persist due to lack of funding.
An honest discussion on race relations would be great, but it is not possible. If anyone cocludes that the problem is not 100% due to White racism, that individual is of course a racist.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:44:43pm |
re: #394 DistantThunder
She would have to be found in the nude with some young boy to be booted from the school or even reprimanded - union you know.
I'm aware of these problems; I used to work for public school district, in their AV Department. We wound up being the dumping ground for incompetent, tenured teachers who couldn't be fired, but couldn't be trusted in the classroom, either. At least she can be reassigned somewhere out of contact with children.
For what it's worth, her actions are clearly abuse, by any modern definition of the term, if anyone in authority cares to press along those lines. In this case, tenure can be circumvented.
Several years ago, my son was involved in a similar, though far milder, incident with one of his middle school teachers. A series of letters to the principle and the school board wound up with this teacher moving on to an unspecified career somewhere else within the year.
Obviously, such complaints carry a lot more weight coming from an in-district parent of a student. But school board members are elected, and they loathe negative publicity like all public figures do. If they get enough email, especially if it starts spreading over into the local news, they'll be forced into action simply through self-interest.
Again: keep it short and keep it courteous. I made sure to mention that I didn't know if Diantha Harris worked for their schools, and that I was sure they would take appropriate action on their own after viewing the video if she was in their employ. No poo-flinging, please. Unless they try to justify or excuse this behavior, or hide behind the not-from-our-district excuse. This last doesn't fly; as anyone else would tell you, child abuse is everyone's concern.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:44:58pm |
re: #470 Killgore Trout
When parody becomes reality...
Will the new president be a wide enough target for humor?
Reminds me of the clip Charles posted yesterday from the Onion. They have no idea what to do next.
Righty-o, because 90% of their Chimpy Bushitler garbage would be racist if written about The One.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:45:05pm |
re: #498 JacksonTn
Mama Winger ... I would really watch him right now ...but I am sure you already are ...I had a nephew who killed himself about 12 years ago ...my oldest sister was his mother and they were extremely close ... she was beyond despair ... seven weeks later she killed herself ...suicide is such a difficult thing for people to comprehend and lends itself to feelings of guilt by those left behind especially the parents ...it is the worst kind of stress on a parent ...
Oh no!...yes suicide is contagious for family and friends.
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:45:12pm |
{mama winger}
I just read upthread about your trouble. I am so sorry. How awful for all of you. My most sincere condolences.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:45:29pm |
re: #478 mama winger
Do you think I, a woman with small-ish hands and not much arm strength could handle a 1911 ? I have been looking at that one.
To misquote The Bard: Get thee to a gunnery.
A range, I mean. Try one out.
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scratch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:45:31pm |
re: #413 looking closely
Incidentally, I dislike (as in won't carry) pistols that have external safeties...
A lot of people I talk to think a safety is like an "on/off switch" that prevents accidents. I always tell them, a person who relies on the safety to prevent an accident is just as likely to misuse the safety too. I have a Sig Sauer P220, and share your lack of enthusiasm for the on/off switch.
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Colin Nelson Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:45:42pm |
Sorry lizards but I've got to say that the tone and emotion in many posts on this thread is not bringing honour to LGF.
Sure, the thread itself begs the question but still - the lizard army knows better than to fall into the ugly racist trap.
Thanks
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:45:43pm |
re: #26 Charles
Meanwhile, the Dow is plunging.
Fox News: Dow drops 443 points for steepest two-day plunge in a month as markets react to worst retail sales in a decade.
Retail sales slump-that's all it is. No rich people are liquidating their assets and shipping them to Cayman Island banks. No jitters on Wall Street due to a Marxist Socialist Liberation Theology president being elected. I feel malaise setting in...and I don't own a pastel leisure suit anymore.
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nyc redneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:45:52pm |
re: #442 mama winger
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
so sorry. life is hard sometimes. what a shame when people see no other option to end their pain.
sorry mama winger.
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Kenneth Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:46:08pm |
re: #442 mama winger
My deepest sympathies to your family. You are in my prayers.
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bulwrk Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:46:13pm |
re: #469 Maximu§
I seemed to remember after 20 miles the pain in my feet made me forget about the weight of the ALICE pack.
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x-wing Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:46:20pm |
re: #478 mama winger
Do you think I, a woman with small-ish hands and not much arm strength could handle a 1911 ? I have been looking at that one.
Yes, Kimber has a 1911 "compactII" that is a very smooth weapon. I've shot 40 cals. that kicked harder.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:46:37pm |
re: #505 buzzsawmonkey
Two straps: the first across the backside, the second around the waist to hold up the droopy drawers.
Do like Dave Chapelle in a partiularly brilliant skit and drop 'em off in the hood so they can keep it real.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:46:59pm |
re: #498 JacksonTn
Mama Winger ... I would really watch him right now ...but I am sure you already are ...I had a nephew who killed himself about 12 years ago ...my oldest sister was his mother and they were extremely close ... she was beyond despair ... seven weeks later she killed herself ...suicide is such a difficult thing for people to comprehend and lends itself to feelings of guilt by those left behind especially the parents ...it is the worst kind of stress on a parent ...
Oh, how awful!
For you and MW both - thoughts and prayers.
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:00pm |
re: #505 buzzsawmonkey
Two straps: the first across the backside, the second around the waist to hold up the droopy drawers.
I don't find the harm in corporal punishment many folks do. I was whacked quite frequently as a child and it hasn't made me a violent offender. I whacked my daughter once because she walked into the street after being told not to. But neither of my kids were as hard headed as I was. ;-)>
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3 wood Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:06pm |
re: #450 NC State of Mind
You think its going to the sixes?
Depends on how many openly Marxist statements Obama makes
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:11pm |
re: #507 OldLineTexan
Righty-o, because 90% of their Chimpy Bushitler garbage would be racist if written about The One.
We can't call him Chimpy Obama in reference to Chimpy Bushitler? Oh, yeah, i see what you mean.
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Cap'n DOC Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:47pm |
re: #502 Occasional Reader
I had a radioman who had an AD with one - Went behind the heel cuff of his boot, bounced off the steel plate and exited the boot high on his instep. I didn't even take the boot off - just called for a medivac. I could never understand the wisdom of carrying a 1911 L&L.
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right_on_target Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:47pm |
re: #22 rightside
Just got that from HA. Watch it and shake your head too.
___
Checking on the web, there should be a correction for the locale of the video -
it's Cumberland County, NC; that's Fayetteville. So the girl's father is probably stationed at Ft Bragg. That makes sense since Asheville doesn't have any military bases nearby.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:50pm |
re: #520 reine.de.tout
{reine}
How is the cookbook doing?
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:52pm |
re: #512 Colin Nelson
Sorry lizards but I've got to say that the tone and emotion in many posts on this thread is not bringing honour to LGF.
Sure, the thread itself begs the question but still - the lizard army knows better than to fall into the ugly racist trap.
Thanks
I haven't read the whole thread. Do you have a list of the particularly offensive ones?
/dislikes broad brushes
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:47:52pm |
re: #512 Colin Nelson
Sorry lizards but I've got to say that the tone and emotion in many posts on this thread is not bringing honour to LGF.
Sure, the thread itself begs the question but still - the lizard army knows better than to fall into the ugly racist trap.
Thanks
Would you be more specific?
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rustynail Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:48:19pm |
re: #368 AmericanPoliticalOrphan
I made a judgement based on content of character. Come on, its the 21st Century. Let's move on, nothing to see here.
Actually, you quoted MLK from 1963, so you're right, nothing new under the sun. Too bad that the majority of Americans couldn't check out the content of BHO's character. They'll just have to cope with it now.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:48:22pm |
re: #492 OldLineTexan
I have a full-size frame. There are smaller ones that are very nice.
However...try to find a place to rent one before you invest...do it soon!
Will do. Little Winger is going to take me gun shopping this weekend. He is actually the one who will be purchasing the gun for me. I appreciate your input. I am trying to make a good decision for myself, as after January he will be in Iraq again and I will be alone. I want time to practice.
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:48:23pm |
re: #498 JacksonTn
How tragic-I am so sorry to hear this. Very sad-may their memories be a blessing.
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:48:36pm |
re: #512 Colin Nelson
Sorry lizards but I've got to say that the tone and emotion in many posts on this thread is not bringing honour to LGF.
Sure, the thread itself begs the question but still - the lizard army knows better than to fall into the ugly racist trap.
Thanks
I am assuming that any discussion about race is now off limits?
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Maui Girl Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:48:47pm |
re: #277 Fat Jolly Penguin
Language warning.
they've never heard of Africa! Lots of black presidents there.
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Pookykoala Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:48:47pm |
re: #22 rightside
Just watched the video. The subtitles were in Swedish not Finnish. However, it could be a Finnish documentary.
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SixDegrees Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:48:54pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:05pm |
re: #507 OldLineTexan
Righty-o, because 90% of their Chimpy Bushitler garbage would be racist if written about The One.
Starting with Chimp.
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CalBear84 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:12pm |
re: #410 wolfie
Agreed.
Especially in California.
Forget rules, it's all about making sure nobody gets their feelings hurt.
(unless they are Repubs...then off with their heads!)
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:19pm |
re: #512 Colin Nelson
Sorry lizards but I've got to say that the tone and emotion in many posts on this thread is not bringing honour to LGF.
Sure, the thread itself begs the question but still - the lizard army knows better than to fall into the ugly racist trap.
Thanks
If you look at what has been brought up in this thread, we are not the one's being racist. I'm sorry, but in this situation "taking the high road" will not work. Things are going to get worse before they get better.
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cliffster Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:22pm |
re: #442 mama winger
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
That's awful, I'm so sorry.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:29pm |
re: #527 HoosierHoops
{reine}
How is the cookbook doing?
Waiting for FlakMusic to finish setting it up in Adobe for a pdf file that I can upload to the publishing site. Then figuring out how to get the proceeds from the publisher into the "LGF Cookbook" paypal account, and we're good to go!
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Gitarzan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:43pm |
re: #364 Kenneth
Yes, and they were inspired.
On a related note, I recall seeing a "peace protester" in London holding up a sign that read "Peace in Our Time!" No, he was not aware of the irony.
We all know what happened the last time a Brit proclaimed "Peace in our time!"...gird your loins, folks, because the world may get a lot uglier real soon.
Now that Obama's gonna be the CinC come January, we better be vigilant in our loyal opposition lest we wind up with a worldwide conflict that could make WWII look like a pop-gun police action...
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ContraJihadi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:46pm |
George Soros did a devilishly clever job of buying himself a president, didn't he?
But on topic: to paraphrase Plato: Only the dead see and end to grievance.
I envy you Lizards who live in places like Texas or Idaho, where unless you tune in to CNN, you won't hear too many of those paeans to Dear Leader.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:48pm |
re: #498 JacksonTn
Oh my goodness. So much pain. All around us. Sometimes it gets to be just too much. We all need to look out for one another. Thank you, and I am so sorry.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:49:56pm |
re: #467 OldLineTexan
A 1911 is so diverse that it will allow Condition 1 carry (cocked and locked). The safety was forced into the design. Browning did not have it in the original.
I believe it was the GRIP safety (not the manual/thumb safety) that was incorporated into the design later to meet military requests.
The problem with the 1911 isn't that it will allow cocked and locked carry, its that you pretty much can ONLY carry it that way. . .unless you want to manually cock the hammer (or rack the slide) prior to firing it. (And to do the first thing, you'd have to decock it by pulling the trigger and thumbing down the hammer ON A LIVE ROUND). Again, both are things I'd rather not think about when someone is trying to kill me.
The other thing I don't like about the 1911, is that its well. . .a brick.
A loaded all steel one weights 2.5 pounds. That's fine for a service or target gun, but not ideal for concealed carry.
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:01pm |
I think VDH is right - there won't be any Michael Moore equivalents on our side - because we are just not that nuts and obnoxious - in general.
Did it ever occur to the moonbats that calling Bush all those crazy names made them look low-class. Maybe they did but they didn't care.
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:30pm |
Dear mama winger,
My condolences to you and your family. We love you sweetie.
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:30pm |
re: #521 Outrider
I don't find the harm in corporal punishment many folks do. I was whacked quite frequently as a child and it hasn't made me a violent offender. I whacked my daughter once because she walked into the street after being told not to. But neither of my kids were as hard headed as I was. ;-)>
My kids were both whacked as needed growing up. They once heard one of their cousins smart off to her father and both about got a whiplash jerking their heads around to see the ass whippin' that was sure to come but didn't. It was really funny because I knew they were thinking "it.is.on".
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:32pm |
Can I ask a gun question. When you have a gun at home, proper safe storage means the gun is locked and the ammunition in another place? Is that right or I am wrong. In either case, if a gun is loaded isn't that dangerous to have around if you have kids and if it's not loaded-how does it protect you if there is an intruder...etc..or are you allowed to carry a loaded weapon, or have a loaded weapon by your bedside, or wherever?
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formercorpsman Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:33pm |
re: #518 OldLineTexan
I just about peed myself on that one.
He is crude, but I love most of his stuff.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:39pm |
The Occasional Reader Rule: Eventually, every LGF thread turns into a gun thread.
NTTAWWT.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:44pm |
Of course activists say it doesnt end racism. They'ld be out of business if it did.
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SaneInMN Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:50:52pm |
From Iowahawk...
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]
So for now, let's put politics aside and celebrate this historic milestone. In his famous speech at the Lincoln Memorial 45 years ago, Dr. King said "I have a dream that one day my children will live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Let us now take pride that Tuesday we Americans proved that neither thing matters anymore.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:51:07pm |
re: #486 Kenneth
Hell of a to-do list for a man who has never run anything bigger than a small charity board before. Heck, leader of the free world... how hard can it be?
He probably wasn't even running that board, really.
But in fairness to Obama, he has run a successful Presidential campaign.
That doesn't by itself make him much of an executive, but it has to count for something.
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Semper Gumbi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:51:38pm |
re: #396 rightside
Okay, I've seen it several times but can't figure it out:
What is CBBHO. I get the BHO, but what is CB?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:51:42pm |
I'm sorry to interrupt, but does anyone remember what that photo upload site mentioned here a while back is called? I've been digging and digging and for the life of me I can't remember.
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:51:45pm |
re: #542 reine.de.tout
Waiting for FlakMusic to finish setting it up in Adobe for a pdf file that I can upload to the publishing site. Then figuring out how to get the proceeds from the publisher into the "LGF Cookbook" paypal account, and we're good to go!
{reine}
I've missed you lately...hope all is well.
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:52:15pm |
re: #526 right_on_target
Hmm... I judged the locale from H W Bush, who visited her in Asheville
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:52:16pm |
re: #537 SixDegrees
I saw. Always a day late and a dollar short as they say. :)
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snowbunnybutt Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:52:25pm |
re: #242 DistantThunder
So let me guess, then more blacks start to feel freer to speed because they know that the police are constrained. And then accidents go up and more black people get hurt. Ya gotta love liberalism./sarc
pretty much, I know my husband has had to let a few people go that should have gotten tickets because of this.
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Eowyn2 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:52:27pm |
re: #378 Maximu§
I just came back from Fort Knox and almost all of the recruits sitting in the graduation ceremony were WHITE. I counted one Black, I asked my son about it and he told me this guy was a "real" African Man from Africa and he is well liked because he is a hard worker, funny and he wants to help out the country that helped him out...I'm told he also has a cool accent.
He doesn't have that "chip" on his shoulder or the baggage that many Americans Blacks have weighed themselves down with. I am sorry to say that they have chained themselves down. Its not the White Man keeping them down, its themselves.
sorry for the long post.
They are being kept down by a group of people telling them that another group of people are keeping them down.
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abolitionist Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:52:51pm |
Has the President-Elect denounced and rejected Farrakhan and associates yet? What's his excuse now? Risk of blowing the election?
/ Duh, of course. 2012
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:52:59pm |
re: #546 looking closely
The other thing I don't like about the 1911, is that its well. . .a brick.
A loaded all steel one weights 2.5 pounds. That's fine for a service or target gun, but not ideal for concealed carry.
Much as I love the 1911, were I to purchase a carry pistol, I would almost certainly go with one of Dr. Glock's fine products.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:53:13pm |
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:53:20pm |
re: #553 Occasional Reader
The Occasional Reader Rule: Eventually, every LGF thread turns into a gun thread.
NTTAWWT.
or a boob thread.
or a gun/boob thread.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:53:24pm |
re: #532 mama winger
Will do. Little Winger is going to take me gun shopping this weekend. He is actually the one who will be purchasing the gun for me. I appreciate your input. I am trying to make a good decision for myself, as after January he will be in Iraq again and I will be alone. I want time to practice.
mama,
First off, I don't believe I have ever congratulated you on your parenting skills. Please consider this as such.
Second, consider a "Lady Smith" Revolver like this one.
Although it has been a while since I handled one, the last examples I saw were well-crafted. And revolvers are more forgiving of beginners and stress situations. If you find something in .357 Mag, you can "download" to .38 Special...more than enough for self-protection in most cases, and easier to handle.
I say this despite my continuing apprehension about S&W's former politics, since AFAIK the HUD agreement they signed is still enforceable.
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:53:25pm |
re: #550 redstateredneck
My kids were both whacked as needed growing up. They once heard one of their cousins smart off to her father and both about got a whiplash jerking their heads around to see the ass whippin' that was sure to come but didn't. It was really funny because I knew they were thinking "it.is.on".
I grew up in school systems that believed in corporal punishment also. I remember many a time of "grab your ankles" or "grab the desk" for many infractions. Then getting it again after the school called home.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:53:29pm |
Again, thank you all so much for your kindness. It makes my heart feel lighter.
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Opinionated Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:00pm |
On the issue of race and voting, did anyone catch Condi Rice yesterday?
She was positively giggly over Obama's victory.
Some wondered who she would vote for- I don't believe there is any doubt.
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:01pm |
re: #557 Semper Gumbi
lol, as I asked Mandy earlier, it stands for COMMIE BASTARD BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:09pm |
re: #558 Fat Jolly Penguin
I'm sorry to interrupt, but does anyone remember what that photo upload site mentioned here a while back is called? I've been digging and digging and for the life of me I can't remember.
flickr?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:12pm |
re: #559 jorline
{reine}
I've missed you lately...hope all is well.
Yes, thanks! Hope all is well with you, too!
You remember the commercial "this is your brain on drugs"?
I sort of feel like that lately - like my brain is fried! I have no energy for anything serious.
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wolfie Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:32pm |
re: #521 Outrider
I think anathematizing corporal punishment is absurd. I have 4 kids.
What works with one does not work with another. You go with what works for each kid.
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The Other Les Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:46pm |
Weather radar shows a decent rainless patch. I think I will go for a walk.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:50pm |
re: #572 OldLineTexan
The Lady Smith is in my top three contenders. I like the way it feels in my hand.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:54:52pm |
re: #571 redstateredneck
or a boob thread.
or a gun/boob thread.
Should I put on a flak jacket before I add ... "a boobs with guns thread"?
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:05pm |
re: #571 redstateredneck
Throw in some firemen and we have a deal...
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:07pm |
re: #551 WriterMom
Can I ask a gun question. When you have a gun at home, proper safe storage means the gun is locked and the ammunition in another place? Is that right or I am wrong. In either case, if a gun is loaded isn't that dangerous to have around if you have kids and if it's not loaded-how does it protect you if there is an intruder...etc..or are you allowed to carry a loaded weapon, or have a loaded weapon by your bedside, or wherever?
We have a safe with a finger keypad lock system. There are little grooves for your fingers to rest in and you just press down on the little pad at the end of each fingertip - in some particular order that you set - and the case springs open. It is super fast. I takes about 3 seconds to access - I think that's reasonable for safety's sake.
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opnion Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:17pm |
re: #575 mama winger
Again, thank you all so much for your kindness. It makes my heart feel lighter.
My sympathies.
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ContraJihadi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:18pm |
re: #553 Occasional Reader
The Occasional Reader Rule: Eventually, every LGF thread turns into a gun thread.
NTTAWWT.
If anything will save this republic from the Alinsky-ite claws of the Obaminations, it will be the Heller decision. Let us hope that Coleman will prevail over that F clown and that a 41 R Senate will save the Supreme Court from the oncoming madness.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:22pm |
re: #546 looking closely
No, I don't try to conceal a full-size 1911. I knew a cop that did, but he was pretty big.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:43pm |
Kenneth, if you are still here, Peace in our time.
/took me awhile because I forgot the password to photobucket
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:44pm |
re: #573 Outrider
I grew up in school systems that believed in corporal punishment also. I remember many a time of "grab your ankles" or "grab the desk" for many infractions. Then getting it again after the school called home.
There is a lot of truth in spare the rod, spoil the child.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:55:48pm |
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:00pm |
re: #551 WriterMom
Can I ask a gun question. When you have a gun at home, proper safe storage means the gun is locked and the ammunition in another place? Is that right or I am wrong. In either case, if a gun is loaded isn't that dangerous to have around if you have kids and if it's not loaded-how does it protect you if there is an intruder...etc..or are you allowed to carry a loaded weapon, or have a loaded weapon by your bedside, or wherever?
I've always kept the gun around the house loaded and out of reach of the kids. The kids were taught gun safety and taken to the range themselves. They were brought up being taught every gun can be assumed to be loaded. They were taught guns were not toys and punishment could be expected to be swift and severed if they fooled with them. To my knowledge they never did.
An unloaded gun is merely a short useless club.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:01pm |
re: #568 Occasional Reader
Much as I love the 1911, were I to purchase a carry pistol, I would almost certainly go with one of Dr. Glock's fine products.
My carry pistol is a five-shot snubnose revolver.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:18pm |
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SteveC Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:29pm |
re: #532 mama winger
Will do. Little Winger is going to take me gun shopping this weekend. He is actually the one who will be purchasing the gun for me. I appreciate your input. I am trying to make a good decision for myself, as after January he will be in Iraq again and I will be alone. I want time to practice.
Shotgun.
In the old west they called a shotgun a street sweeper. They didn't just pick the name out of a hat!
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:34pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:34pm |
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:38pm |
re: #594 Outrider
Thanks-exactly what I was wondering about...
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:38pm |
re: #551 WriterMom
Can I ask a gun question. When you have a gun at home, proper safe storage means the gun is locked and the ammunition in another place? Is that right or I am wrong. In either case, if a gun is loaded isn't that dangerous to have around if you have kids and if it's not loaded-how does it protect you if there is an intruder...etc..or are you allowed to carry a loaded weapon, or have a loaded weapon by your bedside, or wherever?
If you have young kids at the home, I would say the ammo should be stored separately AND LOCKED. A small child can get in a lot more trouble with a live round than with an empty gun.
In theory, you could keep a loaded gun stored in a way that's sufficently safe to 1) keep out of little hands, and 2) be quickly accessible. They have gun safes and gun locks that open with a scanned thumbprint.
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:56:58pm |
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:07pm |
re: #568 Occasional Reader
I own two Taurus 40's, the millenium pro line. It's what I use for my carry piece, much like a glock. I am looking though to get the .45 one though. Nothing says stop, like a .45 round.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:08pm |
re: #583 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Should I put on a flak jacket before I add ... "a boobs with guns thread"?
I have my Flak Bra at ready. . .
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Moe Katz Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:11pm |
re: #364 Kenneth
On a related note, I recall seeing a "peace protester" in London holding up a sign that read "Peace in Our Time!" No, he was not aware of the irony.
With or without umbrella?
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:18pm |
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:23pm |
re: #598 SteveC
Shotgun.
In the old west they called a shotgun a street sweeper. They didn't just pick the name out of a hat!
Right now we have a shotgun, two rifles and a 40 caliber S&W. I am thinking revolver.
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:29pm |
re: #478 mama winger
Do you think I, a woman with small-ish hands and not much arm strength could handle a 1911 ? I have been looking at that one.
Try before you buy.
"Could" handle one. . .yes.
"Would like" to handle one. . .maybe not so much.
As mentioned, these are pretty heavy guns.
I see 1911s as more of a gun for gun buffs.
For a defensive arm, I'd suggest a Smith and Wesson model 66 revolver in .357 magnum. The .357 magnum round is just as good as the .45ACP round of the 1911, but the gun is pistol is far easier to clean and shoot, with fewer controls to worry about, and higher reliability. Plus you can shoot cheap and light recoil .38s in the revolver for practice.
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:30pm |
re: #599 mama winger
What about if we all tattooed guns on our boobs?
What about boobs tattooed on our guns?
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:32pm |
re: #586 DistantThunder
GMTA... didn't see your post!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:34pm |
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nigella Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:40pm |
Mama, so sorry! My brother-in-law committed suicide some years ago.My poor mother-in-law has never been the same. My prayers are with you and your family.
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stanleymberg Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:45pm |
Anyone read Orwell's "Animal Farm" lately? Seems scarily relevant, already.
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:57:51pm |
re: #579 reine.de.tout
Yes, thanks! Hope all is well with you, too!
You remember the commercial "this is your brain on drugs"?
I sort of feel like that lately - like my brain is fried! I have no energy for anything serious.
I hear you...stay well and get some rest. I think this election was one big rollercoaster ride for everyone. How much longer on the full-time part-time job?
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Lizard by the Bay Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:02pm |
re: #599 mama winger
What about if we all tattooed guns on our boobs?
Then I'd be screaming, "Show us yer guns!" a lot.
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:04pm |
re: #593 Fat Jolly Penguin
I don't think so, but that'll work. Thanks.
While you're there check mine out: red.state
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:15pm |
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WriterMom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:15pm |
re: #602 Occasional Reader
Thanks-it's all theoretical for me as I'm in Canada.
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UberInfidel67 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:42pm |
Coming up at 5 here on my local news, they will be talking to two women who just had babies. And guess what they named the? More details in a minute.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:51pm |
re: #605 WriterMom
Ploomah!
That should probably be "The Ploomster".
The most elegant and refined lady of LGF.
heh-heh.
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:52pm |
re: #619 jorline
I hear you...stay well and get some rest. I think this election was one big roller coaster ride for everyone. How much longer on the
full-timepart-time job?
PIMF
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:58:55pm |
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:03pm |
re: #613 Iron Fist
Depending on what you are looking for, you can sink a boatload of money into one.
I only have enough money for a small flotation device. :)
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mikeymom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:04pm |
OT i posted other night that on our second day of vacation here in cancun, i recieved word that my only sis suffered her second stroke in 5 yrs. she is doing somewhat better. this one seems to have affected her speech more than her body. please continue to keep her in your prayers! other than that *sigh* its been great here. thx again lizards!
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Lizard by the Bay Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:04pm |
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:04pm |
re: #580 wolfie
I think anathematizing corporal punishment is absurd. I have 4 kids.
What works with one does not work with another. You go with what works for each kid.
Correct. Time outs and a good talking to worked with my two, both successful college graduates. The same treatment would never have worked with me.
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Moe Katz Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:05pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:06pm |
re: #607 DisturbedEma
I have my Flak Bra at ready. . .
I guess I should be disturbed that that perked up my ears...
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SteveC Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:16pm |
re: #590 logboy
What about guns with boobs?
Eh. We talk about Sarah Palin at the time anyway!
/Governor, hunter, conservative, smart, pretty... So Sarah, you seeing anyone?
Married? :(
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:18pm |
re: #625 UberInfidel67
Coming up at 5 here on my local news, they will be talking to two women who just had babies. And guess what they named the? More details in a minute.
gag. . .retch. . .
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Pyrocles Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:43pm |
Ugh...
re: #625 UberInfidel67
Coming up at 5 here on my local news, they will be talking to two women who just had babies. And guess what they named the? More details in a minute.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:50pm |
re: #621 bulwrk
And the trench broom was the...
Thompson submachine gun, which didn't make it off the test line in numbers until 1921.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:55pm |
re: #630 mikeymom
OT i posted other night that on our second day of vacation here in cancun, i recieved word that my only sis suffered her second stroke in 5 yrs. she is doing somewhat better. this one seems to have affected her speech more than her body. please continue to keep her in your prayers! other than that *sigh* its been great here. thx again lizards!
{mikeymom}
Prayers going up for your sister.
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maddogg Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:56pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:59pm |
re: #607 DisturbedEma
I have my Flak Bra at ready. . .
IT'S NOT THE GUYS THIS TIME!
THE GALS ARE GETTING ... sssHHEEESH!
*grin*
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UberInfidel67 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 1:59:59pm |
Oh My! A story on a few women in the hospital delivering babies and filling out their ballots to vote...while in labor.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:00:26pm |
re: #634 OldLineTexan
I guess I should be disturbed that that perked up my ears...
:) naw, I clean up good. . .:)
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SaneInMN Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:00:29pm |
Writer Mom...
No one can prevent you from keeping a gun loaded in your home (those living in major Marxist metro areas, check with your local gulag commander). You don't a concealed weapons permit in your home. However, you (meaning parents) must make a judgment on whether it is safe to do so with kids in the house. Their are products on the market that both safeguard a loaded weapon and allow for quick and easy access when needed (lock boxes that open with the proper code, even some that only open when your fingerprint is presented). Ultimately, I would be more worried my kid's friends (often from homes were their are no guns) gaining access to my guns than my own. My own will know to not touch (without me or mom present) and respect such weapons from an early age.
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goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:00:48pm |
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mikeymom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:00:50pm |
re: #640 mama winger
thx and prayers for you and your family too
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:00:51pm |
re: #558 Fat Jolly Penguin
I'm sorry to interrupt, but does anyone remember what that photo upload site mentioned here a while back is called? I've been digging and digging and for the life of me I can't remember.
/free online photo storage sharing or just check with your ISP, most offer free storage space
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:00:53pm |
re: #642 pre-Boomer Marine brat
IT'S NOT THE GUYS THIS TIME!
THE GALS ARE GETTING ... sssHHEEESH!
*grin*
Guilty as charged. . .
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:00:57pm |
re: #601 WriterMom
Thanks-exactly what I was wondering about...
That was my case. You know your kids (and relative kids that drop in) better than I.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:08pm |
re: #619 jorline
I hear you...stay well and get some rest. I think this election was one big rollercoaster ride for everyone. How much longer on the
full-timepart-time job?
Oh, lawdy - I haven't done anything in more than a week!
I have probably a few more hours of work on it, and then it will be finished. I need to do something this weekend, I guess.
Put new countertops in my kitchen earlier this week, and had to rework some things and now I have to also repaint some things - wasn't anticipating it. But it will be really nice when it's finished.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:13pm |
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:15pm |
re: #546 looking closely
I believe it was the GRIP safety (not the manual/thumb safety) that was incorporated into the design later to meet military requests.
The problem with the 1911 isn't that it will allow cocked and locked carry, its that you pretty much can ONLY carry it that way. . .unless you want to manually cock the hammer (or rack the slide) prior to firing it. (And to do the first thing, you'd have to decock it by pulling the trigger and thumbing down the hammer ON A LIVE ROUND). Again, both are things I'd rather not think about when someone is trying to kill me.
The other thing I don't like about the 1911, is that its well. . .a brick.
A loaded all steel one weights 2.5 pounds. That's fine for a service or target gun, but not ideal for concealed carry.
I have a Springfield Armory XD .40 with the grip safety...I won't carry it with a round chambered for exactly that reason...
I finally bought a Walther PPK .38. It at least has a 'decocker' (like a safety lever) that will release the hammer without allowing it to strike the cartridge. Yeah, I have to cock it before first use, but I don't know of any safe alternatives.
Any thoughts?
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:24pm |
re: #426 DisturbedEma
Google Debra Dickerson and the colbert report. . .she said in 2007 that politically speaking. . .he is NOT black, he is African African American
How about the other guy (I can't find his name on IMDB at the CN page) on the Chocolate News, at the end of the show, that claimed Obama as one of 'his people', a black man that talks like a white man. I thought I was gonna die laughing, especially when he also included DAG in that group. Anyone remember DAG in the Landis film 'Amazon Women On The Moon' in the 'Blacks with no soul' segments?
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:29pm |
re: #643 UberInfidel67
Oh My! A story on a few women in the hospital delivering babies and filling out their ballots to vote...while in labor.
This happened at my local hospital . ACORN had their thugs there registering people to vote and giving them absentee ballots as they were admitted to the hospital.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:33pm |
re: #624 WriterMom
Thanks-it's all theoretical for me as I'm in Canada.
I thought you folks could actually acquire firearms, notwithstanding the American liberals' idea that you're a pacifist, unarmed utopia? At least long arms?
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jorline Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:33pm |
re: #643 UberInfidel67
Oh My! A story on a few women in the hospital delivering babies and filling out their ballots to vote...while in labor.
...and guess how many were named Barack or Obama that day.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:42pm |
re: #551 WriterMom
Can I ask a gun question. When you have a gun at home, proper safe storage means the gun is locked and the ammunition in another place? Is that right or I am wrong. In either case, if a gun is loaded isn't that dangerous to have around if you have kids and if it's not loaded-how does it protect you if there is an intruder...etc..or are you allowed to carry a loaded weapon, or have a loaded weapon by your bedside, or wherever?
My father was a police officer. Every evening, his belt with revolver was over a dining room chair.
He didn't need to lock it up because he told us not to touch it. I know it sounds oversimplistic, but we obeyed. And we didn't obey everything of course, but that was clearly communicated to us that it was serious stuff. Plus, when he used it to shoot at groundhogs, it was so horribly loud that I wanted nothing to do with it.
I've told mine that they are not to touch it, but if they absolutely feel they must, come to us and we'll let them hold it while we supervize. They asked right then, of course, and never have cared since.
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Opinionated Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:01:47pm |
re: #603 buzzsawmonkey
Never forget that Condi Rice is a contemporary in age with Barack and Michelle Obama. Though ostensibly a "conservative," she has shown in her attitude towards Israel and the Arabs that she adheres to the same equation between American blacks and "Palestinians" that the Obamas do--an equation concocted from the time the PLO was formed, by the work of the black separatists, Marxists, and Islamists who hijacked the Christian-led Civil Rights Movement from Martin Luther King.
But just think, for eight years she has been among the architects of the very policies that Obama successfully ran against.
How hypocritical would it be for her to vote for him. How could she face all who sacrificed so much? If she had any real core.
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scratch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:02:08pm |
re: #532 mama winger
I am trying to make a good decision for myself, as after January he will be in Iraq again and I will be alone. I want time to practice.
I am a big, big believer in revolvers for self defense, for all but the most frequent shooters. It is as close as you can get to 100% reliable, and about three times as simple to operate as an automatic pistol. I carried and qualified with a 9mm for 10 years in the military, but still keep a .357 revolver accessible in my home.
A small .38 Special or .357 (the latter handling both calibers) might be just right for you...not knowing anything else about you other than what you've just posted.
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goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:02:19pm |
re: #629 mama winger
{mama winger}
I just saw your news. I'm so very sorry. You know you're in my prayers--may I add your family to the prayer list?
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:02:27pm |
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DistantThunder Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:02:30pm |
I hope there are lots of Obama people reading this thread and appreciate the fact that we will defend ourselves.
One of the Russian dissidents who wrote about the gulag said they spent years in prison kicking themselves for not resisting more when the civil defense forces came for them. "What if those coming to arrest us wondered whether or not they would come home that night?"
Guns. They are a good deterrent.
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ErnieG Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:02:38pm |
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Semper Gumbi Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:02:55pm |
re: #577 rightside
lol, as I asked Mandy earlier, it stands for COMMIE BASTARD BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
Oooh, I like that! Thanks.
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Adina in Judea Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:03:01pm |
re: #484 looking closely
FWIW, I think Barr is actually Conservative.
Wasn't she the one who said (paraphrasing) when she got on a plane she wanted a pilot who had actually flown one before, rather than the one who was most "inspiring"?
Roseanne Barr is an exceptionally flaky Obama supporter and hater of the right wing. She went insane on her blog to scream at Angelina Jolie for not coming out in support of Obambi:
Roseanne: Also miss jolie says she likes mccain too and hasn't decided who to endorse...huh? Aren't you supposed to be somewhat enlightened, or do you not know that the african daughter you hold in every picture had parents who suffered and died because of the republican party's worldwide economic assault on africa over the last few decades since reagan? whaaa...?! (for that matter, the thai and cambodian sons you are photo'd with weekly too who's pictures you sell to raise money to help the poor? Their families are victims of America's right wing military incursions too.
Mccain wants to continue with the idea of war for profit...the americans are over that thinking now! They have drugged our troops and lower classes into supporting their oil business atrocities for long enough. We want to save not lose our souls thank you. Now go back to making your movies about women who love to handle big guns that shoot hundreds of people to death. Ps...it might be good for your asian and african children's self esteem to know you support a brown man for the leader of the free world.)
She was really yelling at Jon Voight for being a Republican but her viciousness spilled over onto Angelina.
Here's what she said about Jon Voight:
jon voight
is a frightened little girl in a pink ballet tutu, who acts like Obama just wandered in from the rain forest with a bone thru his nose and a communist pamphlet in his loincloth. The neocons who own jon voight and make him dance on the chabad telethons are the worst most elitist people on earth. glen beck and jon voight are their bitches... both of them are used tampons who must be flushed down the toilet immediately!
jon voight your evil spawn angelina jolie and her vacuous hubby brad pitt make about forty million dollars a year in violent psychopathic movies and give away three of it to starving children trying to look as if they give a crap about humanity as they spit out more dunces that will consume more than their fair share and wreck the earth even more. (just sayin').
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:03:04pm |
re: #663 scratch
Yes - I am leaning more and more towards a .38 revolver. Thanks for your insight!
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:03:21pm |
re: #655 CyanSnowHawk
How about the other guy (I can't find his name on IMDB at the CN page) on the Chocolate News, at the end of the show, that claimed Obama as one of 'his people', a black man that talks like a white man. I thought I was gonna die laughing, especially when he also included DAG in that group. Anyone remember DAG in the Landis film 'Amazon Women On The Moon' in the 'Blacks with no soul' segments?
Chocolate News was funny last night.
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Moe Katz Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:03:32pm |
re: #658 Occasional Reader
I thought you folks could actually acquire firearms, notwithstanding the American liberals' idea that you're a pacifist, unarmed utopia? At least long arms?
Long arms, yes. But you need to pass a safety course and get approved. If you're married or living with a partner the spouse must okay the acquisition of the weapon. Which, in some cases, could defeat the purpose of the purchase.
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Lizard by the Bay Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:03:41pm |
re: #659 jorline
...and guess how many were named Barack or Obama that day.
Hundreds (thousands?) of babies being given Muslim names just 7 short years after 9/11. 3,000 souls are spinning in their mass grave.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:00pm |
re: #664 goddessoftheclassroom
{mama winger}
I just saw your news. I'm so very sorry. You know you're in my prayers--may I add your family to the prayer list?
Oh, absolutely goddess! Thank you so much.
What a week.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:05pm |
re: #643 UberInfidel67
Oh My! A story on a few women in the hospital delivering babies and filling out their ballots to vote...while in labor.
For whom did the newborns vote?
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:18pm |
re: #665 OldLineTexan
/crap, where did I put my razor and foo juice?
They still make Jai Karate aftershave?
;-)
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UFO TOFU Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:19pm |
re: #654 eschew_obfuscation
How do you like it? I'm a few paychecks away from getting their 45.
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JacksonTn Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:22pm |
Is it me or does Emmanuel look like a 1940s gangster ...the guy looks mean ...he is there answer to the PLO thing ...that is how they are gonna push it ...
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bosforus Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:33pm |
re: #475 Bubblehead II
That and the fact that the Government "owns" the airwaves, and therefore have the right to determine what can be said over them.
/censureship? What censureship
If the FD gets going the Republican defense is going to have to be (after any kind of 'common sense' argument has been thrown out) to demand that whatever standard might be determined for radio also apply to television. I'm almost 100% certain that the Dems will avoid that point at all costs, changing the subject at every opportunity, but the Reps have to stick to it.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:52pm |
re: #637 buzzsawmonkey
Thompson submachine gun.
Which, of course, didn't exist yet when WWI trench warfare ended.
I believe the Winchester Model 97 shotgun earned the same name, and was actually used in WWI for that purpose. If I'm not mistaken, you could hold the trigger down, and it would fire each time the action was pumped; that was the "trench cleaner" action.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:04:53pm |
re: #647 goddessoftheclassroom
MWAH!
The species is wrong, but just ignore that.
BTW, you're just in time. The Lady Lizards are driving the boob thread.
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Adina in Judea Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:08pm |
re: #669 Adina in Judea
Ooops - my apologies for posting Ms. Barr's vile language from her blog!
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maddogg Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:13pm |
re: #637 buzzsawmonkey
Thompson submachine gun.
I got one for ya. Which Browning machine gun was a flop, and known by soldiers as a "potato digger"?
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:19pm |
re: #254 logboy
What if you only have a left hand and no right?
What a sinister thought-it lacks dexterity.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:23pm |
re: #664 goddessoftheclassroom
gotc,
Please leave my grandson et. al. on the list - they delayed his surgery because of an emergency transplant.
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:31pm |
re: #676 redstateredneck
OMG. I remember that stuff. Ah, memories!
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:41pm |
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:56pm |
re: #678 JacksonTn
He looks mean because he IS mean. He is a Chicago thug of the first order.
If you like Chicago politics, you are gonna love the Obama administration. Richie Daley is filling the positions as we speak.
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rightside Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:57pm |
re: #676 redstateredneck
I know what that is...and still know the scent of it. That makes me... feel young, yeah, that's it!
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opnion Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:05:58pm |
This has probably already been covered, but is anyone else ticked off about these anonymous McCain campaign people sniping at Palin?
They are implying that she cost them the election.
Could it be that McCain is down a pint of charisma & ran a crappy campaign? Could it be that the financial crisis hit after Palin had him up 4%?
Yeah, she held him back, right.
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fish Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:02pm |
re: #38 maddogg
You know these asswipes are creating a whole new generation of racists with their idiot tactics.
Is MArxist Liberal Moonbat a race? (If so I just might be a racist.)
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:06pm |
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Eowyn2 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:20pm |
re: #457 mama winger
Thanks. It is hardest on my stepfather. He is elderly and has a bad heart. This does not help it.
very sorry mama
my prayers and sympathy.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:22pm |
re: #676 redstateredneck
They still make Jai Karate aftershave?
;-)
Jovan Musk. Nuttin' but the best for the ladies...
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wolfie Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:23pm |
re: #632 Outrider
Correct. Time outs and a good talking to worked with my two, both successful college graduates. The same treatment would never have worked with me.
Nor me! :)
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:31pm |
re: #684 David IV of Georgia
What a sinister thought-it lacks dexterity.
Check his football information.
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ibryski Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:31pm |
So will the LA Slimes now release the Obama-Khalidi tape?
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:32pm |
re: #660 Silhouette
My father was a police officer. Every evening, his belt with revolver was over a dining room chair.
He didn't need to lock it up because he told us not to touch it. I know it sounds oversimplistic, but we obeyed. And we didn't obey everything of course, but that was clearly communicated to us that it was serious stuff. Plus, when he used it to shoot at groundhogs, it was so horribly loud that I wanted nothing to do with it.
I've told mine that they are not to touch it, but if they absolutely feel they must, come to us and we'll let them hold it while we supervize. They asked right then, of course, and never have cared since.
I agree completely. I grew up around guns, and started shooting from age 8 on. My father put the fear of a serious ass whooping in me if I ever touched a gun when he wasn't around. Teach responsibility and disclipline and it's not a problem.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:06:54pm |
re: #629 mama winger
I only have enough money for a small flotation device. :)
If you're looking for something for home defense, and have a limited budget, I'd got with a shotgun. More effective than a pistol, and you can get a perfectly fine new shotgun for $200 - $250; even cheaper used. If you're worried about recoil, get a 20 gauge instead of 12, they get the job done just fine.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:07:06pm |
re: #684 David IV of Georgia
What a sinister thought-it lacks dexterity.
Interesting choice of words - you do know one meaning of "sinister" is left-hand or "on the left" side?
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:07:40pm |
re: #677 UFO TOFU
How do you like it? I'm a few paychecks away from getting their 45.
So far very well...it's light and small, but it is comfortable in my large hand (unlike Glocks).
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:07:56pm |
re: #692 opnion
This has probably already been covered, but is anyone else ticked off about these anonymous McCain campaign people sniping at Palin?
They are implying that she cost them the election.
Could it be that McCain is down a pint of charisma & ran a crappy campaign? Could it be that the financial crisis hit after Palin had him up 4%?
Yeah, she held him back, right.
Yeah, right she held him back.
I made my first ever political donation after she came aboard, and actually felt a smidgeon of hope.
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:08:13pm |
re: #697 OldLineTexan
Jovan Musk. Nuttin' but the best for the ladies...
English Leather used to make me physically ill.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:08:24pm |
re: #702 Occasional Reader
If you're looking for something for home defense, and have a limited budget, I'd got with a shotgun. More effective than a pistol, and you can get a perfectly fine new shotgun for $200 - $250; even cheaper used. If you're worried about recoil, get a 20 gauge instead of 12, they get the job done just fine.
I have a shotgun. Now I want something cute, like me :)
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:08:33pm |
re: #689 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I'm shocked! SHOCKED!
:) I know, I hide it well, with my demure and ladylike "airs"
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DisturbedEma Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:09:00pm |
re: #706 reine.de.tout
Yeah, right she held him back.
I made my first ever political donation after she came aboard, and actually felt a smidgeon of hope.
Me too. . .
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outsidephilly Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:09:16pm |
re: #442 mama winger
I'm doing okay. We still are waiting on more word from the Chicago officials on my stepbrother who committed suicide yesterday. We still have not heard from the coroner as to cause of death.
I'm so sorry, wm!
My family has gone through the confusion/sorrow of suicide . . . , again, I am so very sorry!
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:09:25pm |
re: #684 David IV of Georgia
What a sinister thought-it lacks dexterity.
No really, I don't have a right hand. I got it blown off in Iraq.
I love it when people ask me, "can I give you a hand?"
"Yup. Can you make sure it's a right?"
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alien_mind Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:09:32pm |
many black americans that voted for Obama probably had different expectations about his presidency than the white americans did. they may have felt thats its payback time, time to get our just rewards, time to start calling the shots. whereas the white voters were mainly falling for the hope and change mantra and ending 8 years of failed policies yadda, yadda, yadda. could be that many people are going to be in for a rude awakening as this moves forward.
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Gitarzan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:10:21pm |
re: #568 Occasional Reader
Much as I love the 1911, were I to purchase a carry pistol, I would almost certainly go with one of Dr. Glock's fine products.
Dr. Glock's Patent Medicines...the cure for what ails you!
;-P
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reine.de.tout Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:10:31pm |
re: #716 jorline
Good night, lizards...see you in the morning.
Good night Jorline!
I'm having your tilapia for dinner tonight, btw! I love it!
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looking closely Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:10:43pm |
re: #568 Occasional Reader
Much as I love the 1911, were I to purchase a carry pistol, I would almost certainly go with one of Dr. Glock's fine products.
I don't think Gaston Glock actually holds a Doctorate (and that's a big deal in Austria).
There are people who swear by them, but I also don't like Glocks. Apart from having a weird grip angle, a blocky grip, and a spongy trigger, the standard trigger pull on a Glock is 5.5 lbs. So now you have a gun that is essentially like a cocked and UNlocked 1911! No thanks.
Its not an accident that there is a high rate of accidental discharge among Glock carriers, and its also not an accident that Herr Glock spends gazillions of dollars hyping the "safety" of his pistol.
Check out the Walther p99 (or its American clone, the Smith and Wesson P99). This is the current "James Bond" pistol, I think.
Its conceptually similar to a Glock, in that its a polymer framed gun with no external hammer or safety, using the exact same finish as Glocks (overhyped) "Tenifer". In fact some members of Glocks design team also helped design this one. Unlike the Glock it has a nice ergonomic grip which is adjustable with inserts to fit different hands. This one has a traditional double action, with an internal hammer (and cocking indicator). If you WANT to carry it cocked (eg a Glock), you can, though you can also use the decocker to safety carry it double action.
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:11:02pm |
re: #692 opnion
This has probably already been covered, but is anyone else ticked off about these anonymous McCain campaign people sniping at Palin?
They are implying that she cost them the election.
Could it be that McCain is down a pint of charisma & ran a crappy campaign? Could it be that the financial crisis hit after Palin had him up 4%?
Yeah, she held him back, right.
Rush said today he thinks he knows who is doing this but does not have proof positive so won't say anything. I hope he gets that proof and broadcasts it from the rooftops.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:11:07pm |
re: #710 DisturbedEma
:) I know, I hide it well, with my demure and ladylike "airs"
Not to mention the lady-like profusion of chocolate in your avatar.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:11:16pm |
re: #708 Iron Fist
When I was a kid, my carry gun was a Ruger Security-Six in .357 magnum. Easy to conceal, yet powerful enough to get the job done. But I haven't carried a gun in 20 years.
NB - I am not a pro, nor have I ever been. Just a CHL.
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redstateredneck Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:11:29pm |
I am outta here and off tomorrow.
Later, lizards.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:11:49pm |
OT -
FOX news saying Paul Ryan may be up for Majority Leader !
Paul Ryan is a rising star - he is my congressman - total conservative - great guy - photogenic - young - energetic - led the fight against the bailout
a male Sarah Palin
GO PAUL RYAN ! !
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:11:53pm |
re: #666 DistantThunder
One of the Russian dissidents who wrote about the gulag said they spent years in prison kicking themselves for not resisting more when the civil defense forces came for them. "What if those coming to arrest us wondered whether or not they would come home that night?"
Solzhenitsyn in The Gulag Archipelago sardonically congratulates the Stalinist secret police for their boundless creativity in the ways they dreamed up for arresting people. E.g., you'd board your normal morning bus to go to work, and the driver and ticketman were replaced with secret police - they drive you to the Lubyanka. Or someone greets you in a public place, says "don't you remember me from school?!" offers to buy you tea... and you're arrested.
As Solzhenitsyn notes, these incredibly theatrical subterfuges were completely unnecessary; nobody ever resisted.
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logboy Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:12:07pm |
re: #709 mama winger
I have a shotgun. Now I want something cute, like me :)
My buddy just bought his wife a pink shotgun. It doesn't get any cuter than that.
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rustynail Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:12:31pm |
re: #379 capitalist piglet
I'm in Seattle, and neither have I - but I don't find it impossible to believe. Just the other day, Black Panthers intimidated people at a polling place. I never thought I'd see that either.
I didn't see anything in Birmingham, Alabama, either, although there were some gunshots late in the evening. I think in the interest of fairness, I should point out that the police officers that responded and hustled the Panthers off were black. That said, I worry about the mindset of some of our population who believe that everything is there for the taking by those who dare.
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:13:00pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:13:01pm |
re: #712 goddessoftheclassroom
OH ... THE PAIN, THE PAIN!
Classic!
MWAH!
Thanks very much for not using that at supper time.
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Maximu§ Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:13:06pm |
re: #685 OldLineTexan
gotc,
Please leave my grandson et. al. on the list - they delayed his surgery because of an emergency transplant.
He's on my list Tex.
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debutaunt Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:13:11pm |
re: #195 JacksonTn
I posted this in another thread but ...
This morning my brother took my dog for a walk ...three young black guys were on the corner drinking out of paper bags ...it was around 9 a.m. ...they were chanting OBAMA OBAMA. He walked by and said "Change ... you have a black president now." ...I don't think they will be changing any time soon.
Yesterday, a friend of mine was waiting for a bus. He was standing away from people smoking a cigarette. A black lady came up to him and said "Blow that White smoke somewhere else." ... I understand if you don't like smoking ...but really ... white smoke? ... it was outside.
Oh great - it sounds like some rude people have been enabled.
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doppelganglander Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:13:25pm |
re: #725 mama winger
OT -
FOX news saying Paul Ryan may be up for Majority Leader !
Paul Ryan is a rising star - he is my congressman - total conservative - great guy - photogenic - young - energetic - led the fight against the bailout
a male Sarah Palin
GO PAUL RYAN ! !
My DC daughter is very high on him. But wouldn't he be minority leader? Majority leader for 2010 ;)
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Fredlike Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:13:42pm |
re: #692 opnion
This has probably already been covered, but is anyone else ticked off about these anonymous McCain campaign people sniping at Palin?
They are implying that she cost them the election.
Could it be that McCain is down a pint of charisma & ran a crappy campaign? Could it be that the financial crisis hit after Palin had him up 4%?
Yeah, she held him back, right.
Yes, greatly ticked. If it was not for Sarah (or someone very much like her) bringing in the social conservatives as well as bringing a lot of excitement to the campaign I do not think McCain would have won more than a couple of states. She kept it close even after the disaster of the financial collapse.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:14:08pm |
re: #686 Iron Fist
If there are small kids around, you have to be more careful. I'd keep the weapon under lock and key, but still with the magazine ready to be inserted into the weapon if it is needed.
My problem with that is, as mentioned, I think a small kid can get in a lot more trouble with the ammo than with an empty gun. Let's see what happens if we throw this shiny thing against the wall! Etc.
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:14:10pm |
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opnion Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:14:29pm |
re: #721 Bobblehead
Rush said today he thinks he knows who is doing this but does not have proof positive so won't say anything. I hope he gets that proof and broadcasts it from the rooftops.
That would be great.
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Texas Heathen Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:15:20pm |
re: #571 redstateredneck
or a boob thread.
or a gun/boob thread.
oh yeah a gun/boob thread! gotta love it
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wolfie Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:15:27pm |
re: #725 mama winger
Oh, PLEASE let him win the position! PLEASE! We need someone who can communicate! Ryan has the right stuff...IMO.
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opnion Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:15:29pm |
re: #736 Fredlike
Yes, greatly ticked. If it was not for Sarah (or someone very much like her) bringing in the social conservatives as well as bringing a lot of excitement to the campaign I do not think McCain would have won more than a couple of states. She kept it close even after the disaster of the financial collapse.
Absolutely
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SteveC Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:15:39pm |
OFF TOPIC - IMPORTANT
The 5 month old child I mentioned a few times last week, Katie is not doing well. They almost lost her last night.
Katie has Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome and needed heart surgery when she was born, was doing better but got sick last weekend, and had surgery last Wednesday. It wasn't quite "Emergency Surgery" but it took place a lot sooner than the doctors had planned. She was inproving, but suddenly all the readouts went south and they had to take her back to the OR.
Just to give an idea of how serious it is, she was in the operating room less than 15 minutes after the surgeon decided that they needed to go back in; and the entire surgical team slept at the hospital last night, just in case.
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Eowyn2 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:16:23pm |
re: #532 mama winger
Will do. Little Winger is going to take me gun shopping this weekend. He is actually the one who will be purchasing the gun for me. I appreciate your input. I am trying to make a good decision for myself, as after January he will be in Iraq again and I will be alone. I want time to practice.
Make sure the grips fit. With the right grips, you can handle a 38 or a 357. if you have male grips, its tough to control. And I'm all about gun control - both hands.
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Bobblehead Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:17:45pm |
Fellow Lizards...Michelle Malkin has a link where you can send a message of support to Gov. Palin.
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Eowyn2 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:17:54pm |
re: #701 logboy
I agree completely. I grew up around guns, and started shooting from age 8 on. My father put the fear of a serious ass whooping in me if I ever touched a gun when he wasn't around. Teach responsibility and disclipline and it's not a problem.
my parents taught me that a gun is a weapon used for self defense and putting meat on the table. not a toy. never a toy.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:18:51pm |
I think Obama's first official act should be to end Affirmative Action. Doesn't this election prove that we don't need it anymore?
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Occasional Reader Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:19:19pm |
re: #719 looking closely
using the exact same finish as Glocks (overhyped) "Tenifer".
I read something from Massad Ayoob to the effect that in New Orleans post-Katrina, among cops and assorted others wading around in brackish water for days, the only guns that didn't rust were Glocks. And I don't think Ayoob is on the Glock payroll, so I trust his word.
I don't mind the Glock grip, and as to the trigger pull you can always get the "New York" trigger. And I like the simplicity of the thing. If you pull the trigger, it fires; if you don't, it can't. What could be simpler? One easy rule to remember.
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Texas Heathen Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:20:15pm |
re: #714 logboy
No really, I don't have a right hand. I got it blown off in Iraq.
I love it when people ask me, "can I give you a hand?"
"Yup. Can you make sure it's a right?"
Thank you so much for your sacrifice. Freedom is not free. The libs should learn that.
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Adina in Judea Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:20:32pm |
re: #725 mama winger
FOX news saying Paul Ryan may be up for Majority Leader !
Paul Ryan is a rising star - he is my congressman - total conservative - great guy - photogenic - young - energetic - led the fight against the bailout
a male Sarah Palin
GO PAUL RYAN ! !
It's a wonderful sign that the Republican Party didn't even wait a week to start grooming young leaders for the future after this election loss.
It seemed as if the Party just sat around waiting to see who would show up to run for President this year. I like the idea of grooming young future candidates who have a lot of time to work on everything (even if they're already inspiring speakers.)
Go Paul Ryan from me, too!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:20:42pm |
re: #747 Mad Al-Jaffee
I think Obama's first official act should be to end Affirmative Action. Doesn't this election prove that we don't need it anymore?
uh ... did you mean Affirmative Action or ACORN Action?
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mama winger Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:21:00pm |
re: #741 wolfie
Oh, PLEASE let him win the position! PLEASE! We need someone who can communicate! Ryan has the right stuff...IMO.
Yes he does. No doubt about it. He often worships at my church when he is in the neighborhood. He is a good family man , a staunch conservative and so good at what he does. He has even called me at my home when I have had questions or concerns. Once he called me even tho he was in his car on the way to visit his sick mother. He is awesome.
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Lizard by the Bay Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:21:29pm |
I hate being right.
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scratch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:22:12pm |
re: #721 Bobblehead
Rush said today he thinks he knows who is doing this but does not have proof positive so won't say anything. I hope he gets that proof and broadcasts it from the rooftops.
Maybe the Obama camp is spending some of their leftover cash on a little PSYOP...?
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:23:36pm |
re: #706 reine.de.tout
Yeah, right she held him back.
I made my first ever political donation after she came aboard, and actually felt a smidgeon of hope.
This is the period of time where the Republican party will eat their own trying to figure out what anyone on the street could tell them in a heart beat. Obama just promised "hope", "change", and everything else under the sun and many people were gullible enough to believe it. I'm not 100% convinced anyone could have run against what we were up against this time. Really.
Palin was a legitimate candidate and I hope she can do it again.
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rustynail Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:24:04pm |
re: #532 mama winger
Will do. Little Winger is going to take me gun shopping this weekend. ... I want time to practice.
Far be it from me to hold myself out as an expert, but a couple of observations/research results: 1. A shotgun is far superior for home defense. Try a medium gauge with a relatively short barrel. 2. An automatic is a special challenge. If you don't hold it firmly, you may get an incomplete ejection of the spent cartridge, often termed a stove pipe. This must be cleared before another round can be chambered and fired. I think you might want to consider a revolver. That said, a fairly large caliber is best for its stopping power. I favor .40 SW, although 9 mm will do if you can put it in the X-ring. Not easy under stress. Hence the shot gun for home use.
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fish Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:24:47pm |
re: #686 Iron Fist
The best storage is to have the weapon and magazine in the same place (i.e. drawer) but not actually in the weapon. It can quickly be loaded, but it is unlikely to be accidently loaded. I've been around a lot of guns. I know a guy who's step-dad (we thought) was in witness protection. Loaded guns in every room of the house in places where they were easily accessible, and never an accident. OTOH, my best friend was killed in an accident with a shotgun.
Good safety instruction coupled with good discipline and guns are safe to have around. If there are small kids around, you have to be more careful. I'd keep the weapon under lock and key, but still with the magazine ready to be inserted into the weapon if it is needed.
I disagree. You should not keep a magazine for a semi auto loaded as the spring may become permantly compressed and it may not fire when needed. Keep the ammo handy but out of the mag. IMHO
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Texas Heathen Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:25:04pm |
so if the Fairness doctrine is enacted does that mean if we're having a boob thread we have to give equal time to some other body part.
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goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:26:32pm |
Tonight my school presents the Veterans Day program I put together to the community. In addition to readings by my students and musical selections by the vocal ensemble and band, I'm showing these three tributes:
Korean War:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
Vietnam:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
Iraq:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:27:37pm |
re: #759 Texas Heathen
so if the Fairness doctrine is enacted does that mean if we're having a boob thread we have to give equal time to some other body part.
How BOUT them elbows?
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Wendya Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:27:39pm |
re: #18 blueroom127
You know what would actually end inequality?
If the local elected officials (democrats) that black and hispanic people have been voting for for decades actually did something to improve the lives of their constituents.
Amazing concept right?
Maybe instead waiting around for someone to deliver goodies, they could actually get up off their asses and improve their own lives?
Is that really too much to ask?
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Wendya Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:28:06pm |
re: #758 fish
I disagree. You should not keep a magazine for a semi auto loaded as the spring may become permantly compressed and it may not fire when needed. Keep the ammo handy but out of the mag. IMHO
Rotate your magazines weekly.
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:28:09pm |
re: #751 Adina in Judea
It's a wonderful sign that the Republican Party didn't even wait a week to start grooming young leaders for the future after this election loss.
It seemed as if the Party just sat around waiting to see who would show up to run for President this year. I like the idea of grooming young future candidates who have a lot of time to work on everything (even if they're already inspiring speakers.)
Go Paul Ryan from me, too!
Fact is I'm still trying to remember when McCain showed up. I didn't recall seeing him at the onset-I was going for Fred. Then it seemed all of a sudden, J. McCain is leading.
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Tigger2005 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:28:19pm |
The MAN is causing the DOW to tank to make Obama's job tougher!
/
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Adina in Judea Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:28:25pm |
re: #756 Outrider
Obama just promised "hope", "change", and everything else under the sun and many people were gullible enough to believe it. I'm not 100% convinced anyone could have run against what we were up against this time. Really.
This plus the $600 million and the MSM campaigning for him 24/7 was a lot to be up against, indeed.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:28:51pm |
Then why not just cycle the ammo to a another empty magazine and let the previously loaded one decompress? Having to try and load a magazine in a emergency isn't going to cut it.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:30:23pm |
re: #759 Texas Heathen
so if the Fairness doctrine is enacted does that mean if we're having a boob thread we have to give equal time to some other body part.
Nope, left and right.
Fair and balanced.
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Outrider Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:30:37pm |
re: #766 Adina in Judea
This plus the $600 million and the MSM campaigning for him 24/7 was a lot to be up against, indeed.
A whole lot to be said for that.
I had read, but can't seem to find a source yet, if true, that 95% African-Americans and 75% Hispanics voted for BO.
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Silhouette Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:30:43pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:31:28pm |
re: #761 Silhouette
How BOUT them elbows?
Necks are good. Earlobes, also. Nibbling that general area is good.
/It's better than kroshing your enemy, IMO
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Texas Heathen Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:32:08pm |
re: #770 Silhouette
dangit sil you beat me to the punch.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:32:25pm |
re: #729 rustynail
I didn't see anything in Birmingham, Alabama, either, although there were some gunshots late in the evening. I think in the interest of fairness, I should point out that the police officers that responded and hustled the Panthers off were black. That said, I worry about the mindset of some of our population who believe that everything is there for the taking by those who dare.
For the record only: I wasn't trying to be unfair. I didn't think the race of the officers was an issue, one way or the other - I didn't even know what it was.
When we had the Rodney King dustups in Seattle, a friend of mine (an armed security guard, at the time) who is American Indian but looks white stood in an alley with a black man, watching the situation unfold...the man turned to my friend, said, "Are you armed?"
My friend responded that he was, and the black man said good - revealing that he was a cop in plain clothes. Together, they kept a close eye on what was happening.
What I said is in no way intended to be an indictment or assumption about black people in general. I don't believe that the majority of black people are anything but extremely proud right now, and I am genuinely happy for that single aspect of this election. Having said that, I would guess that there is a small segment of the black population that has heard an awful lot of Jeremiah Wright-speak, who may be inclined to express their pride in a less-than-desirable way.
And of all the things I can blame Obama for, that is not one of them.
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Lizard by the Bay Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:32:29pm |
re: #759 Texas Heathen
so if the Fairness doctrine is enacted does that mean if we're having a boob thread we have to give equal time to some other body part.
No, you just have to give the left boob and the right boob equal time. Just like a Presidential debate.
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Texas Heathen Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:32:49pm |
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Adina in Judea Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:33:34pm |
A weird sort of calm has come over me now (two days after the election.)
I see all of us as being in a historically bad time (like the 1930s) that is bound to turn into an historic nightmare (possibly another depression and a world war.)
My mind is kicking into survival mode and I'm reminded that every day is precious.
It would still be really helpful if the Likud Party wins the Israeli election, though.
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scratch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:35:40pm |
re: #758 fish
I disagree. You should not keep a magazine for a semi auto loaded as the spring may become permantly compressed and it may not fire when needed. Keep the ammo handy but out of the mag. IMHO
I've never studied this myself, but I believe this to be an old wives tale. I have heard anecdotal evidence of magazines kept loaded for very long periods with no problem whatsoever.
At any rate, I DO feel qualified to say is that an unloaded magazine is completely worthless for self defense, and I'm not just being clever. The idea of loading a magazine--many of which have extremely stiff springs--between warning and encounter is a non-starter.
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Throbert McGee Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:36:26pm |
re: #332 ClosetConservative
The Young Democrats group at my schools is trumpeting the arrival of America's entry into the "Brave New World". Have they even read the book?
Um... is it possible they were quoting William Shakespeare, from The Tempest?
O, wonder!
How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world,
That has such people in't!
Of course, if they were indeed quoting Aldous Huxley's quotation of Shakespeare, then they're idiots.
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J.S. Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:36:43pm |
Exactly. First Americans must demonstrate that they're not "racists" by voting for Hussein. Now, after Hussein becomes President-elect, Americans must demonstrate that they're not "racists" by...[fill in the blank here -- whether it'll be mandated that Americans to demonstrate that they're not racists by following/abiding every decree uttered by The Zero; or to silence any and all criticism -- the point is that the goal posts will always, always be moving to yet another "requirement" necessary to be filled...It will never, ever end.]
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soxfan4life Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:37:49pm |
re: #443 logboy
Yes, it means we don't have armor, vehicles, and we carry all our crap on our back. Its an oxymoron though, there's nothing light about an 80 pound pack.
If it's still like it was when I was in, the 10th Mountain is the ones they send when noone else wants to go. I was 1st Cav and our command never said no, but we did get alot of augmentation from the 10th Mountain.
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:41:14pm |
re: #501 Silhouette
I think a lot of people think that life is smooth sailing for whatever group they considered privledged.
They might be shocked to find out that white anglo-saxon protestants still get rejection letters from job interviews, have store security watch them to make sure they don't shoplift, get pulled over for suspicous driving, etc.
Gee. Although I am not Protestant, I am a English-Irish-Scottish-German-French-Danish-American and I work for a living. My grandmother could and did pick a bale of cotton a day—I grew up sleeping on a mattress stuffed with cotton she picked and a pillow filled with feathers she plucked. I work hard for a living. This Saturday I get to do a job that will likely kill me and/or make national news if I screw it up. My biggest problem with job interviews is that my resume looks too good. I have some people in my family that Obama would consider rich. They got that way by working 12 hour days and weekends, moving to parts of the country they didn't want to live in to do jobs they didn't like, and such. None of them got rich because of inheritance or government handouts.
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Adina in Judea Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:47:00pm |
re: #780 J.S.
Exactly. First Americans must demonstrate that they're not "racists" by voting for Hussein. Now, after Hussein becomes President-elect, Americans must demonstrate that they're not "racists" by...[fill in the blank here -- whether it'll be mandated that Americans to demonstrate that they're not racists by following/abiding every decree uttered by The Zero; or to silence any and all criticism -- the point is that the goal posts will always, always be moving to yet another "requirement" necessary to be filled...It will never, ever end.]
Like the war in the Middle East, sort of. It's an entitlement mindset.
Hezbollah recently made it clear that if Israel did absolutely everything they've been asking for all along, it wouldn't be enough. They now say that Northern Israel has some old Shiite villages from 60+ years ago that they will also need to claim (inside Israel.)
As for the "Palestinians," they say they need Jerusalem. They say they need 500,000 Jews moved to places inside the green line. They say they need to pour millions of Arabs into Israel to become citizens. They say they need for all these millions (and anyone else who calls himself a "Palestinian") to get reparations for Israel having existed for 60+ years. Even then, the "armed struggle" (terrorism) wouldn't be over. They've made this clear, too.
Meanwhile, Israeli Arabs say that the name of the country needs to change. (Too Jewish.) The flag needs to change. The national anthem needs to change. All Arabs must be as well-off as prosperous Jews.
It goes on and on.
People ask, "Why isn't it over? Why can't people just sit down and solve the whole thing in an hour? What's so difficult?"
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Gitarzan Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:47:39pm |
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coldwarrior Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:50:40pm |
re: #613 Iron Fist
I'm a big fan of the 1911, but they can be a bit much for women. My ex-wife couldn't handle them, but she was cool with 9mm. I'd test fire one before I bought one. Depending on what you are looking for, you can sink a boatload of money into one.
why not look at a makarov? i love the one's i have.
they are small enough for carry, inexpensive, and well built.
if i could get away with it i'd carry mi hi-power, but like the 1911, its way too big
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:51:06pm |
re: #760 goddessoftheclassroom
Tonight my school presents the Veterans Day program I put together to the community. In addition to readings by my students and musical selections by the vocal ensemble and band, I'm showing these three tributes:
Korean War:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
Vietnam:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
Iraq:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
Check your email
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fish Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:51:15pm |
re: #725 mama winger
OT -
FOX news saying Paul Ryan may be up for Majority Leader !
Paul Ryan is a rising star - he is my congressman - total conservative - great guy - photogenic - young - energetic - led the fight against the bailout
a male Sarah Palin
GO PAUL RYAN ! !
I was shocked to first learn you were in WI, Now I find we share a congressman. We probably shop at the same grocery.
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Wendya Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:52:22pm |
re: #478 mama winger
Do you think I, a woman with small-ish hands and not much arm strength could handle a 1911 ? I have been looking at that one.
Try looking for a 9mm 1911. There are several manufacturers that produce them.
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:52:34pm |
re: #551 WriterMom
Can I ask a gun question. When you have a gun at home, proper safe storage means the gun is locked and the ammunition in another place? Is that right or I am wrong. In either case, if a gun is loaded isn't that dangerous to have around if you have kids and if it's not loaded-how does it protect you if there is an intruder...etc..or are you allowed to carry a loaded weapon, or have a loaded weapon by your bedside, or wherever?
We always had loaded guns around the house. My dad kept them high and out of reach. On several occasions he said in that voice that meant there would be neither mercy nor appeal, "If I see you touching, reaching, standing near or even looking at one of these guns without my permission, you will get a spanking." We had to practice safe gun handling even with toy guns. I've had a spanking or two for carelessly pointing a toy gun. We never had problems.
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Clutch Thu, Nov 6, 2008 2:57:07pm |
Speaking of bumperstickers, Ms. Clutch sent me one that is a take-off of the black background / white "W The President" one. Same color scheme, but it is now a big "O" with "S#it!" in smaller letters underneath it. Think of all the variations that could be used for a graduated worsening of the 0bama administration: "O D@MN", "O H3LL" , "O F*CK" "O G-D@MN F*CKING H3LL" (that one for when the whole country goes down the sh!tter...)
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fish Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:02:29pm |
re: #777 scratch
I've never studied this myself, but I believe this to be an old wives tale. I have heard anecdotal evidence of magazines kept loaded for very long periods with no problem whatsoever.
At any rate, I DO feel qualified to say is that an unloaded magazine is completely worthless for self defense, and I'm not just being clever. The idea of loading a magazine--many of which have extremely stiff springs--between warning and encounter is a non-starter.
I have to agree with the idea that loading a semi auto in an emergency is not the best solution. However, having a gun that wont fire when you need it is just as bad. Personally thats why I went with a revolver .357 and keep a quickloader at the ready.
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UberInfidel67 Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:06:17pm |
re: #656 mama winger Mama...this was McGee Women's Hosp in Pittsbugh so I am SURE ACORN had their hands in it. As a matter of fact, some lawyers were involved in helping this one woman get her ballot, and then 9 other women started bitching about wanting to do it too. The one woman they showed on TV didn't look the type to wanna fight for any rights unless someone told her too.
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JustAGal Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:08:00pm |
re: #760 goddessoftheclassroom
Tonight my school presents the Veterans Day program I put together to the community. In addition to readings by my students and musical selections by the vocal ensemble and band, I'm showing these three tributes:
Korean War:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
Vietnam:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
Iraq:
[Link: www.gcsdistributing.com...]
I do not know where you teach, but thank you
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:13:57pm |
re: 699 mama winger
re: #684 David IV of GeorgiaWhat a sinister thought-it lacks dexterity.
Check his football information.
After reading that information, I will explain the play on words I made: In Latin, sinister is the word for left and dexter is the word for right.
I grew up thinking that grandfathers always had deep bizarre scars on them. I now know that shrapnel, bullets and bayonets caused them. logboy has my respect and gratitude.
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Ojoe Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:29:13pm |
It is time to leave "activists" behind, for the good of the country.
I hope Obama himself does so, and governs from the center.
I have no problem if he throws "activists" under the proverbial bus.
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MrSnuggles Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:31:59pm |
re: #127 JacksonTn
More like the death of freedom and a new birth of government enslavement.
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right_in_canada Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:53:35pm |
re: #100 guitarguy
Julian Bond (NAACP) pretty much said this months ago.
(If Obama is elected) "...we still have a long struggle ahead of us, blah-blah-blah...institutional racism...yadda-yadda..."
...I'm just happy that Erica Jong and Jane Fonda can now rest easy...
Ya I will sleep so much better knowing they are happy the "chosen one" is in.
//like i had 2
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right_in_canada Thu, Nov 6, 2008 3:57:14pm |
I hope Obama himself does so, and governs from the center.
There's about as much likelihood of that happening as "Mr. Potato Head " Al Sharpton announcing he believes that the USA is no longer a country of racists now. ;-)
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calcajun Thu, Nov 6, 2008 4:08:59pm |
Does this mean we can't laugh at "Blazing Saddles" anymore?
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Ojoe Thu, Nov 6, 2008 5:12:14pm |
re: #798 right_in_canada
He will have to govern from the center if he is to govern at all & I think he is smart enough to know this.
BBL
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Ojoe Thu, Nov 6, 2008 5:13:31pm |
Too much negativity on this thread.
It is time to go forward together.
Do not let us waste this opportunity.
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ciaospirit Thu, Nov 6, 2008 5:21:01pm |
re: #773 capitalist piglet
I would guess that there is a small segment of the black population that has heard an awful lot of Jeremiah Wright-speak, who may be inclined to express their pride in a less-than-desirable way.
And of all the things I can blame Obama for, that is not one of them.
I can. Obama sat in that church for 20 years. He could have spoken out with a counter message. He didn't say a word, never once complained about the hate. Blacks should be ashamed to liken Obama to King. Obamabots don't want to even the playing field. They want to get even. Mostly against people who did nothing to them and, in many cases, did everything to help them.
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LEGION Thu, Nov 6, 2008 7:33:48pm |
BO probably wrote the speeches for Wright under Ayers tutelage.
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donna quixote Thu, Nov 6, 2008 7:49:42pm |
I think his campaign has done more for racism than the rantings of Jesse and Sharpton. I'm wondering how long he will retain that messiah attitude when he learns of the problems the US faces and that racism isn't even in the top tier.
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AtadOFF Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:16:35am |
95% of blacks voted for Obama. End of racism? I don't think so.
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Picayune Fri, Nov 7, 2008 9:49:41am |
re: #203 calcajun
I grew up in New Orleans and remember when the African American
machine succeeded in controlling the mayor's office and most of the
city council. It was the politics of payback--big time. This may not be
any different.
What Change?
That machine just re-elected Congressman "Dollar" Bill Jefferson, after an endorsement on Monday from "Suga Ray" Nagin in "Chocolate" City, with all 17 indictments still pending against Dollar Bill! The opposition Dem candidate was a very clean and new, Helena Moreno, a TV News anchor, and aggressive investigative journalist ( used to be all journalist investigated, by definition).
We have a blueprint here of what to expect from this mentality, after it has ruined one of the most charming, beautiful and romantic cities in the US these past 28 years of AA administrations, and the indictments just keep on coming.
Three of Dollar Bill's family members have been indicted, or convicted this past year for stealing from a charitable fund set up by them to help poor children in the 9th Ward, among other charges, along with a State Senator, and a City Councilman. "Let'em out" judges have been booted by the LA Supreme Court or rejected at the polls, and former Mayor Morial has had four of his cronies and his brother indicted or convicted these past four years. Morial is now head of the Urban League.
Chicago's got nothing on NO, the book on political corruption was written here, as I have previously posted.
Their claim has long been, "it's our turn - the white politicians were corrupt before us, so, so what?" ACORN has a massive presence here.
Let's hope the appointment of former Clinton administration officials by Obama will moderate the efforts to repeat the pattern set here.
Can you imagine an Obama admin response to a national emergency similar to Dems Blanco/Nagin - before, during, and after Katrina?
Bush urged them to declare a mandatory evacuation on Friday, 3 days before landfall (I saw the press conference on local TV)- and of course, it was all his fault, with all the Metro and Public School buses left in place to flood to their roof lines.
Blanco refused Bush's request to allow for federalization of her National Guard for almost a week - after the deaths of about 1600 and the suffering and misery of tens of thousands, all because the city was a war zone without the 82nd Airborne, locked and loaded. They are what saved this city from total destruction by the local thugs via General Honoree', his intelligence, will and admonishment to the media - "don't get stuck on stupid". This AA General was not afflicted with "it's our turn" syndrome. So, there's hope yet.
Nagin/Blanco finally ordered it, the morning before Katrina hit, after repeated calls from Bush, too late to those too dependent on their Dem leaders after three decades, to take responsibility for themselves - and the world watched in horror the aftermath.
Compare/contrast that to Jindal/Gustav this past August - 1 to 2 million evacuated in an orderly, efficient manner - the biggest ever accomplished in US history. But the "our turn" dependents bitched when they returned on free transportation back to NOLA - their temporary evac accommodations were less than 5 star.
World events may postpone, by necessity, any efforts to quickly apply the NOLA blueprint of "its our turn" to our national government! If not, this attitude and the incompetence it fosters will cause sever breakdowns at the national level - and the corruption and waste will be of historical proportions.
Pray, if you can, for God-given wisdom to be granted to our pres-elect. He's surly going to need it! But, he can do a lot to dispel this notion of "our turn" now, if he so chooses? We'll see soon enough. Pray baby pray!
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