Every word out of their mouths proves your point

Nice company to keep, eh?

If the people supporting the groups these men belong to are attacking you Charles, I would wear it as a badge of honor.

Charles, I'm at work and You Tube is blocked. Is this available on another video format?

Oh, they've just been drinking a little bit. And their French stinks!

/sarcasm

They should be singing that song " We gotta fast car..."

I wonder what Pamela thinks. No. I don't really care. The evidence was there all the time. These people are Nazis.

I just wanna' reach through my monitor and smack the snot out of them.

re: #6 MandyManners

I wonder what Pamela thinks.

She's thinking, "lalalalalalalala can't here you!"

I think many people here have no idea of the pressure that was exerted upon you to join the parade: you're certainly to be congratulated for your prescience, Charles.

Disgustinggg

But, but, but - they were tossed out of Vlaams Belang! VB decries and condemns what is portrayed on this video! WE certainly do not approve of the sentiments they expressed! Besides, they had been drinking and they didn't know what they were doing!

/

You just know something's not right within a movement that has to keep "throwing out" so many of its members. Including its leaders.

I have to admit when I first heard of these guys I initially believed them to be the good guys. They usually wear a very nice mask that would convice a lot of people. That is the scariest thing about them, people who would naturally oppose them can be sucked in by the mirage.

Of course scum like this can only wear a mask for so long.

I'm absolutely at a loss for words to correctly describe these sicko's.

"You shall judge a man by his foes as well as by his friends."
William Ellery Channing

QED! Scum is scum. Spencer and Atlas owe Charles a sincere apology. When you are wrong the best thing is put things right fast.

Vlaams are Nazi loving scum. Unfortunately, given how Europe functions, they have a bright future.

re: #13 Pvt Bin Jammin

Well... that wasn't bad for starters.

For those who missed it, I posted a National Security briefing for the POTUS-elect.

re: #16 Cap'n DOC

Thanks, trying to keep it clean here. Unbelievable.

re: #13 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm absolutely at a loss for words to correctly describe these sicko's.

How about, 'those who have become what they oppose'?

...smeared LGF for refusing to be associated with these Neanderthals.

Hey! I know some Neanderthals that would take exception to being associated with these guys.

re: #11 Intrepid

But, but, but - they were tossed out of Vlaams Belang! VB decries and condemns what is portrayed on this video! WE certainly do not approve of the sentiments they expressed! Besides, they had been drinking and they didn't know what they were doing!

/

You just know something's not right within a movement that has to keep "throwing out" so many of its members. Including its leaders.

Especially its leaders - what does it say about a movement which has these sort of people to lead it?

re: #7 MandyManners

I just wanna' reach through my monitor and smack the snot out of them.

I agree. Have you ever been to Europe? Have you ever had this sort of stuff said right to your face, and the people doing it assume that you are in agreement with them?

This sort of stuff has never really left Europe. It went a bit underground, it's not as apparent in the major tourist areas, but, off the beaten track, it's still festers.

You probably already know this yourself, but I have seen and hear it, face to face with people like this. And they think it's totally acceptable.

Not a clue.

OT: WOMEN’S TENNIS JUST GOT UNSEXY

[Link: withleather.uproxx.com...]

"The WTA features such stars like Ana Ivanovic, with her warm smile and natural beauty; Maria Sharapova, with her willowy limbs and blond locks; and Jelena Jankovic, with her… body. But the women’s bodies are covered up, as the tour closes its season with the WTA Championship in Qatar. Thanks, Islam!"

re: #11 Intrepid

But, but, but - they were tossed out of Vlaams Belang! VB decries and condemns what is portrayed on this video! WE certainly do not approve of the sentiments they expressed! Besides, they had been drinking and they didn't know what they were doing!

/

You just know something's not right within a movement that has to keep "throwing out" so many of its members. Including its leaders.

So they'll take the 0bama defense. The irony is that pamela would rail against 0bama for that sort of thing, but finds it acceptable for her friends.

Same Jihad, different culture, one enemy: always the Jews.

These guys would fit right in with Saraa and Farfur on Tomorrow's Pioneers.

I wonder if the stalker blogs will pick this one up. Not holding my breath.

Well Charles,if these guys hate you,that just makes me like you even more,and I'm not even a Jew.

It sickens me that people I used to think thought clearly have aligned themselves with these monsters.

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

I agree. Have you ever been to Europe? Have you ever had this sort of stuff said right to your face, and the people doing it assume that you are in agreement with them?

This sort of stuff has never really left Europe. It went a bit underground, it's not as apparent in the major tourist areas, but, off the beaten track, it's still festers.

You probably already know this yourself, but I have seen and hear it, face to face with people like this. And they think it's totally acceptable.

Not a clue.

I've never been to Europe but, heaven help anyone who said that to me if I did. I would unleash an atomic ass-chewing.

Do you suppose Fjordman can twist and spin his way through this video?

re: #29 MandyManners

I've never been to Europe but, heaven help anyone who said that to me if I did. I would unleash an atomic ass-chewing.

I have, I do!

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

It sickens me that people I used to think thought clearly have aligned themselves with these monsters.

And that they are blinding themselves to what is going on here!
The underlying thinking, of separating people and 'sending them away' based on race or religion, is something which must be abhorrend to anybody who has any grasp of the history of totalitarianism in the last Century.

Evidence of cheating in the vote count in Minnesota.

The article is on Powerline blog.

re: #30 rightwinger3

Do you suppose Fjordman can twist and spin his way through this video?

Are you kidding? He'd use up 30,000 words to basically tell us, "So what? No one else is doing anything about the jihadis" and all his fans will swoon complete with links at gov, pamela's and robert's.

I found an open registration almost a year ago when this battle first started. It is heartwrenching that some we thought had taken a strong stand against the likes of these two have gone back to being willfully blind. More than that, words fail me...

I keep hearing the specious argument that says people should overlook this kind of thing in the name of supporting "the only people who are really fighting the jihad."

Our military is actually fighting jihadis, while some posers attend gassy conferences and other posers get caught showing their true colors singing nazi ditties in a biergarten. That reality reduces the argument from specious, to ridiculous, to obscene.

re: #11 Intrepid

Yeah.

People like that are leaders of the party; you cannot tell me that they just went nuts one afternoon while drinking.

More, you cannot tell me that the rest of the leadership did not know their views.

I imagine it's actually not that easy to learn the words to that disgusting little ditty. I don't know any equivalently offensive piece, and I have a prodigious memory.

Sort of on topic...

Does Robert Spencer have a contact email. I see nothing on his site that would link to some sort of contact.

re: #36 jaunte

I keep hearing the specious argument that says people should overlook this kind of thing in the name of supporting "the only people who are really fighting the jihad."

Our military is actually fighting jihadis, while some posers attend gassy conferences and other posers get caught showing their true colors singing nazi ditties in a biergarten. That reality reduces the argument from specious, to ridiculous, to obscene.

One upding is not enough...

re: #30 rightwinger3

Do you suppose Fjordman can twist and spin his way through this video?

He'll just say that VB threw them out.

That's supposed to be good enough for anyone.

re: #34 Sharmuta

Are you kidding? He'd use up 30,000 words to basically tell us, "So what? No one else is doing anything about the jihadis" and all his fans will swoon complete with links at gov, pamela's and robert's.

Sharm, I would say LOL, but everything you said is true and not a laughing matter. Oh well I'm glad I chose to be on this team...which was a no-brainer.

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

Yes there is- I think it's in the left side bar.

OT:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

DR Congo has accused UN peacekeepers of failing to stop rebels from killing civilians in the east of the country.
"People are being slaughtered and [UN peacekeepers] did nothing," a spokesman for President Joseph Kabila said.

I hate the UN, and I really hate the term Peacekeepers.

re: #36 jaunte

I keep hearing the specious argument that says people should overlook this kind of thing in the name of supporting "the only people who are really fighting the jihad."

Our military is actually fighting jihadis, while some posers attend gassy conferences and other posers get caught showing their true colors singing nazi ditties in a biergarten. That reality reduces the argument from specious, to ridiculous, to obscene.

Exactly!

Well said indeed!

re: #42 Sharmuta

Yes there is- I think it's in the left side bar.

Got it, thanks. All the way at the bottom of a VERY LONG FRONT PAGE. I just sent him my posted question direct...

"Robert, can you answer one simple question for me. This would help a lot in deciding what is really going on here. Which European political parties do you UNCONDITIONALLY condemn because of their proven ties to racist nationalism? Walter L. Newton, Golden, Co."

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

I'm going to take a wild guess that you'll be off the Christmas card list after today.

Thank you Charles for bringing this to light. This closes and locks the book in my mind, and should do the same for many others.

I think this is a video of Dewinter and Vlaam Belang singing the national anthem of apartheid South Africa at a recent event.....
Au Vlaams Belang, l'hymne national c'est celui de l'Afrique du Sud (en souvenir de l'apartheid sud-africain)

Can anyone confirm this?

In vino veritas.

Why on earth would anyone ding down this thread?

re: #49 MandyManners

In vino veritas.

I'll stick to beer.

re: #46 Sharmuta

I'm going to take a wild guess that you'll be off the Christmas card list after today.

LOL.

Big whoop. He can find me if he wants to. I use my actual name and bio stuff all over the web. I don't have anything to hide, and I'm not afraid of anyone.

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Look at all the child abuse going on. Ugh!

re: #50 Sharmuta

You'll have to ask Sylvester.

re: #33 The Other Les

Evidence of cheating in the vote count in Minnesota.

The article is on Powerline blog.

Why is it that "found" votes are always heavily slanted to the democrat?

re: #48 Killgore Trout

I think this is a video of Dewinter and Vlaam Belang singing the national anthem of apartheid South Africa at a recent event.....
Au Vlaams Belang, l'hymne national c'est celui de l'Afrique du Sud (en souvenir de l'apartheid sud-africain)

Can anyone confirm this?

What in the world?

re: #50 Sharmuta

Why on earth would anyone ding down this thread?

Sylvester... who is it?

re: #41 rightwinger3

Sharm, I would say LOL, but everything you said is true and not a laughing matter. Oh well I'm glad I chose to be on this team...which was a no-brainer.

Yep - especially when I got the whiffs of subliminal totalitarian thoughts in some comments there. which nobody found fault with ... and then got more whiffs in the opinion pieces ... and then there were posters going on praising the BNP ...
Honestly - hiw blind does one need to be not to see where this is going to lead?
And above all - how this is going to discredit any anti-jihad work, terminally?

This is interesting, but not surprising - secessionist, nationalist politics are almost always racists and anti-semitic as well.
Vlaams Belang's raison d'etre (before even hating Jews and Muslims) is hating Walloons, on behalf of Dutch-speaking Flemings, ostensibly because they are so poorly treated by the French-dominated Belgian government. Similarly in my country Quebecois secessionists have always been hostile to what they call "money and the ethnic vote", i.e. jews, arabs, and blacks. They were largely unmoved by Holocaust, and many leaders in the 60's and 70's were unabashed neo-Nazis.
It seems to me that whenever you scratch a separatist movement you'll find a Nazi movement. Charles, you were definitely right to distance yourself from these pigs.

re: #53 Sharmuta

It does make sense that they idolize South Africa. IIRC It was a Dutch colony.

re: #60 Killgore Trout

It does make sense that they idolize South Africa. IIRC It was a Dutch colony.

It was!

Fascists to the left of me, fascists to the right.

re: #56 MandyManners

It's very odd. The subtitles are in French and it does appear that they are singing the South African national anthem.

Aggressive local tribalism has failed as a response to aggressive imported tribalism. Does Europe have any new ideas?

re: #61 Walter L. Newton

I wonder if the old national anthem was in Dutch. I would have guessed it was in Afrikaans.

re: #60 Killgore Trout

It does make sense that they idolize South Africa. IIRC It was a Dutch colony.

They were a Dutch colony. You can see in the former South African flag the image of the Dutch flag.

re: #58 yma o hyd

Yep - especially when I got the whiffs of subliminal totalitarian thoughts in some comments there. which nobody found fault with ... and then got more whiffs in the opinion pieces ... and then there were posters going on praising the BNP ...
Honestly - hiw blind does one need to be not to see where this is going to lead?
And above all - how this is going to discredit any anti-jihad work, terminally?

yma o hyd, understatements all. Those weren't whiffs those were full blown dogsh*t scented explosions.

re: #55 Lee Coller

Why is it that "found" votes are always heavily slanted to the democrat?

Good question.

Here's tow more. What I would like to know is how the vote total would be effected if the total number of ACORN registrations were subtracted from the Democrat column? Would it also effect the allocation of electoral college votes?

re: #65 Killgore Trout

I wonder if the old national anthem was in Dutch. I would have guessed it was in Afrikaans.

That's what I was just wondering. That link above is in French (or maybe French-Belgium, I'm not that studied on the differences).

Now, Belgium did trash the Congo, I wonder if thats the connection with the language?

I'm sure these are not the Euros whom Atlas and RS hang out with. I'm sure their set is the Country Club VB set...not these Walmart types. Such an embarrassing and uncouth bunch.
/That's what they would say if they weren't PC and weren't nervous about what everybody would say.

re: #48 Killgore Trout

I think this is a video of Dewinter and Vlaam Belang singing the national anthem of apartheid South Africa at a recent event.....
Au Vlaams Belang, l'hymne national c'est celui de l'Afrique du Sud (en souvenir de l'apartheid sud-africain)

Can anyone confirm this?

What I can confirm is that this is certainly not the official hymn of the RSA.
The melody is the same as in the second part of the present official National Anthem of the RSA - thus I would hazard the guess that the French translation in subtitles is one verse of that song which might indeed be from the time of Apartheid.

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Dutch is not an official language of South Africa, according to wiki.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

What's up with the Nazis and their music these days?

re: #20 uncle_monkey

Hey! I know some Neanderthals that would take exception to being associated with these guys.

Geico?

re: #71 yma o hyd

Thanks. It does make some sort of sense I guess but it's still a very odd thing for them to do.

re: #66 Sharmuta

They were a Dutch colony. You can see in the former South African flag the image of the Dutch flag.

Interesting too is this:

A century and a half after the discovery of the Cape Sea Route, the Dutch East India Company founded a refreshment station at what would become Cape Town in 1652.[10] Cape Town became a British colony in 1806. European settlement expanded during the 1820s as the Boers (original Dutch, Flemish, German and French settlers) and the British 1820 Settlers claimed land in the north and east of the country.

re: #73 Killgore Trout

What's up with the Nazis and their music these days?

Are they on the top ten lists again?

re: #72 Sharmuta

Hmmm.

re: #61 Walter L. Newton

It was!

Until our lot grabbed it - Boers war .. Ye've all watched 'Zulu', methinks ...
After WWII it became a dominion, then independent and the Boers took over, with Apartheid etc ...

Damn that's evil.

re: #63 Killgore Trout

It's very odd. The subtitles are in French and it does appear that they are singing the South African national anthem.

The whole scene disturbs me. Daubing black and yellow paint on those boys' faces--what's that about?

re: #64 jaunte

Aggressive local tribalism has failed as a response to aggressive imported tribalism. Does Europe have any new ideas?

No- but their American blogging friends came up with a clever bumper sticker about ending the occupation of Constantinople. I bet it will be highly effective.

re: #81 MandyManners

I have no idea.

re: #30 rightwinger3

Do you suppose Fjordman can twist and spin his way through this video?

I went to GoV and tried to slug through one of Fjordman's essays. It took a few cups of coffee and half a pack of cigs to work through it. My assessment? He created it from a random essay generator, like one of these.

Torturous.

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Thanks. It does make some sort of sense I guess but it's still a very odd thing for them to do.

Actually - it fits in very well with their way of thinking: celebrating apartheid based on skin colour as in South Afrika is not that much different from wanting apartheid and worse based on perceived 'race', i.e. adherence to a certain religion, Islam ... and that other one, what was it, can't remember, something mediterranean ...

/

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Have you sent it to Charles?

re: #84 Intrepid

I went to GoV and tried to slug through one of Fjordman's essays. It took a few cups of coffee and half a pack of cigs to work through it. My assessment? He created it from a random essay generator, like one of these.

Torturous.

More like this.

The disgusting smirks on their faces, like naughty school boys! That says all you need to know about these creeps.

Fuck. Them. All.

re: #84 Intrepid

I went to GoV and tried to slug through one of Fjordman's essays. It took a few cups of coffee and half a pack of cigs to work through it. My assessment? He created it from a random essay generator, like one of these.

Torturous.

Torturous is right - my a-Levels teacher would have stuff like that downgraded mercilessly, and as for daring to hand in an essay in college like the ones he fabricates - gawd, I wouldn't have made it through Year One!

On top of it - its pure obfuscation, like listening to one of B0s speeches ... at the end you have no idea what the points were.

re: #62 MandyManners

FascistsMoonbats to the left of me, fascists to the right.

re: #62 MandyManners

Great tune! I haven't heard it in years. Currently cranked up loud!

Thanks.

re: #89 yma o hyd

Torturous is right - my a-Levels teacher would have stuff like that downgraded mercilessly, and as for daring to hand in an essay in college like the ones he fabricates - gawd, I wouldn't have made it through Year One!

On top of it - its pure obfuscation, like listening to one of B0s speeches ... at the end you have no idea what the points were.

I gave up on reading his stuff. When I do a rant I try to get to the point and keep it as brief as possible.

re: #87 MandyManners

Here's an idea Mandy- the next time The Kid is bouncing off the walls, have him read fjordy. It should put him right to sleep.

Obama on Fox News...suddenly has bags under his eyes. Looking rough around the edges.

re: #93 Sharmuta

Here's an idea Mandy- the next time The Kid is bouncing off the walls, have him read fjordy. It should put him right to sleep.

Child abuse.

re: #94 SummerSong

Obama on Fox News...suddenly has bags under his eyes. Looking rough around the edges.

The result of his first foreign policy briefing?

re: #94 SummerSong

Maybe the full scope of his upcoming responsibilities has just sunk in.

re: #96 Fat Jolly Penguin

re: #97 Fenway_Nation

It would seem so!

re: #95 MandyManners

I know you know I was joking. I would never have an impressionable young mind read that longwinded, racist claptrap.

re: #92 The Other Les

Fjordy shared these words of wisdom on a blog whose name I won't mention:

re: #99 Sharmuta

The prose would bruise his brain.

Let's try that again:

Fjordy shared these words of wisdom on a blog whose name I won't mention:

I assume people have noticed that LGF has attacked Robert Spencer again. In a way, this is good, because it demonstrates to absolutely everybody that LGF is a far-Leftist blog and an enemy. We shouldn't bother what they think about anything. They work for the other team.

far-Lefist blog my a**. Screw him.

re: #97 Fenway_Nation

Maybe the full scope of his upcoming responsibilities has just sunk in.

Its above his pay grade.

re: #95 MandyManners

Child abuse.

Okay, Steven Den Beste.

If The Kid doesn't fall asleep, he'll certainly learn something.

re: #48 Killgore Trout

I think this is a video of Dewinter and Vlaam Belang singing the national anthem of apartheid South Africa at a recent event.....
Au Vlaams Belang, l'hymne national c'est celui de l'Afrique du Sud (en souvenir de l'apartheid sud-africain)

Can anyone confirm this?

Not sure what they're singing -- it doesn't seem to be the apartheid South African anthem Die Stem van Suid-Afrika:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It does mention South Africa, though, and I'm pretty sure it's not intended to be anti-apartheid.

C'mon Charles, why are you always so hard on these guys? They seem like a fun bunch.

/

Yeah baby! Whatever you do, don't wait another hour until after the markets close.

/Obama opens his mouth and the DOW immediately loses 120 points

What is an "Unslaked lime"?

Where did the southern accent go?

Sharmuta,

I am doing some book buying today.

A few months back you mentioned a book on the fascism. What was the title?

re: #109 SummerSong

Where did the southern accent go?

Gone like any gains the Dow-Jones might've made....

re: #104 victor_yugo

Okay, Steven Den Beste.

If The Kid doesn't fall asleep, he'll certainly learn something.

No war stuff for him now.

re: #94 SummerSong

Obama on Fox News...suddenly has bags under his eyes. Looking rough around the edges.

He's been running on adrenalyn and now his chickens have come home to roost.

This press conference might be one of the worst examples of stock speech that I've ever seen.

re: #107 Killian Bundy

Yeah baby! Whatever you do, don't wait another hour until after the markets close.

/Obama opens his mouth and the DOW immediately loses 120 points

WTF? It was up.

re: #110 Syrah

The Anatomy of Fascism

re: #108 FrogMarch

Unslaked lime

I useta' feel safe to be an American when I read of VB and its ilk but, not any more knowing that CBBHO will be president.

re: #102 neocon hippie

can you say
"chip on shoulder"

re: #102 neocon hippie

Let's try that again:

Fjordy shared these words of wisdom on a blog whose name I won't mention:

I assume people have noticed that LGF has attacked Robert Spencer again. In a way, this is good, because it demonstrates to absolutely everybody that LGF is a far-Leftist blog and an enemy. We shouldn't bother what they think about anything. They work for the other team.

far-Lefist blog my a**. Screw him.

If I'm to be called a "far-leftist" for not wanting to pitch my lot in with folks who pitch theirs in with neo-nazis, then so be it.

I do not believe it is acceptable to deport Muslims en masse from Europe just because they are Muslims.

I do not believe it is acceptable to tolerate or even embrace hate-mongering thugs like David Duke.

I do not believe that mass murderer Slobodan Milosevic was just "misunderstood".

Screw 'em. I'm a lefty then.

re: #115 MandyManners

WTF? It was up.

Check out FOX Business's graph -- it took a nose dive as soon as The ONE opened his trap.

re: #116 Sharmuta

The Anatomy of Fascism

Thank you.

re: #105 Charles

They do announce it as some sort of national hymn. Maybe it's a regional song from a South African province or something.

ooops...he forgot to mention Bill in his list of 'helpful' Presidents.

When does the media begin to call him dumb based on this press conference, there are more ummms than Bush ever tossed out.

re: #122 Fat Jolly Penguin

Check out FOX Business's graph -- it took a nose dive as soon as The ONE opened his trap.

If Wedneday's and today's performance don't send a clear signal that he is bad for business, I don't know what will.

re: #121 Intrepid

If I'm to be called a "far-leftist" for not wanting to pitch my lot in with folks who pitch theirs in with neo-nazis, then so be it.

I do not believe it is acceptable to deport Muslims en masse from Europe just because they are Muslims.

I do not believe it is acceptable to tolerate or even embrace hate-mongering thugs like David Duke.

I do not believe that mass murderer Slobodan Milosevic was just "misunderstood".

Screw 'em. I'm a lefty then.

A racisssst lefty because you were not for obama.

re: #122 Fat Jolly Penguin

I saw the upside of last month's financial crisis as 'Hey, there's some pretty good companies here that are being sold off in this panic. What better time to find some bargains?'

Now it looks like we could be in for four years of 'bargains'.

Sorry to have missed out but I thought Robert Spencer was condemning these guys. What happened?

re: #125 stonemason

ooops...he forgot to mention Bill in his list of 'helpful' Presidents.

When does the media begin to call him dumb based on this press conference, there are more ummms than Bush ever tossed out.

He could have sex with a goat in the Rose Garden yet the press will always claim CBBHO is a better president than Pres. Bush.

re: #129 jill e

Sorry to have missed out but I thought Robert Spencer was condemning these guys. What happened?

Now he's condemning Charles.

re: #125 stonemason

he's smart but not articulate.? hmmmm

WHAT ABOUT HITLER'S MOM?

OT but has anyone seen any news coverage of the funeral of Obama's grandmother and whether Obama went to it.

re: #115 MandyManners

Not by much but, yes it was up about 150 points in the article that I checked before logging on here.

He hit his list and left...sheesh, this is gonna be an interesting period of time.

re: #97 Fenway_Nation

Maybe the full scope of his upcoming responsibilities has just sunk in.

For the love of all that is Good and Sweet I hope so. If I believed that he at least had some clue as to what he was getting into I would sleep better.

re: #134 beens21

OT but has anyone seen any news coverage of the funeral of Obama's grandmother and whether Obama went to it.

I'm guessing they put it off til this coming week. Too much going on. Hopefully it will be a quiet affair. I wouldnt let camaras in no matter what. She may even have been cremated so the funeral services can be at any time. Her brother may even have taken her ashes home for family burial.

re: #122 Fat Jolly Penguin

Check out FOX Business's graph -- it took a nose dive as soon as The ONE opened his trap.

/and as soon as he shuts up, back up we go

re: #105 Charles

Not sure what they're singing -- it doesn't seem to be the apartheid South African anthem Die Stem van Suid-Afrika:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It does mention South Africa, though, and I'm pretty sure it's not intended to be anti-apartheid.

I'm pretty sure it is the chorus from "Die Stem":
Ons sal antwoord op jou roepstem, ons sal offer wat jy vra:
Ons sal lewe, ons sal sterwe - ons vir jou, Suid-Afrika

[Link: www.cyberserv.co.za...]

As to why they're singing it, who knows. The Flemish "National Anthem" is "De Vlaamse Leeuw"

re: #126 MandyManners

If Wedneday's and today's performance don't send a clear signal that he is bad for business, I don't know what will.

his plans of confiscatory taxes are definately bad for business.

On recognizing evil from Conversion Diary:

One thing that stands out in all these examples is that the victims of the widespread evil were categorized as something less than human. In fact, though the exact level and degree of evil that took place may vary, one thing that unites all of these practices as worthy of a place in the Human Depravity Hall of Fame is not only that innocent people were killed or enslaved, but that their humanity was taken away by the societies around them. The Nazis classified their victims as sub-human, less worthy of life than the better members of the race; wives were burned with their husbands because they were seen as nothing more than property; in the 90's in Rwanda the media fueled the genocide by assuring citizens over and over again that Tutsis were not fully human, referring to them as insects rather than people; the Romans accepted it as a matter of fact that baby girls inherently had fewer rights to live than baby boys; and in early America enslaved men, women and children were accepted by both government and society at large to be barely above livestock in their dignity and worth.

re: #129 jill e

Sorry to have missed out but I thought Robert Spencer was condemning these guys. What happened?

The unauthorized bibliography of the kerfuffle written by yours truly: [Link: kejda.net...]

...with links and dates and quotes and whatnot.

So can I make inappropriate comments about how I wish these scumbags would leave this earth? OK. I won't.

re: #129 jill e

Sorry to have missed out but I thought Robert Spencer was condemning these guys. What happened?

He's gone over to the dark side.

re: #124 Killgore Trout

That's a snippet from TV5 (the Parisian French channel which we all get up here in Canada.) The subtitles are blurry -- basically the Vlaams Belang is singing its National Anthem -- and it's in remembrance of Apartheid in South Africa...(there's the little bit in there about "standing together, fighting the war"...etc.)

re: #142 jill e

Of course, even the run of the mill serial killers dehumanize their prey.

Pieter Mulder, head of the Freedom Front Plus party in South Africa [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] and Filip DeWinter have shown up at the same Nationalist conferences:

[Link: www.vlaamsblok.be...]

Perhaps the song is theirs?

re: #148 scottishbuzzsaw

Interesting these names they have... freedom front... freedom party...

They got the rhetoric down right, didn't they?

What will be the name of the Obama's new puppy?

I'm guessing it will be "Hope".

re: #148 scottishbuzzsaw

Filip DeWinter

I always think of Lady DeWinter from the three muskateers.
or the Ice Bitch.

re: #148 scottishbuzzsaw

Good job digging!

Upshot of President-elect Obama's press conference:

1. Spend money like there is no tomorrow.

2. He does not know how to respond to Dinnerjacket's letter.

3. Then he talked about having talked to all "living Presidents" and when they laughed at that he said that he did not want to get into anything about Nancy Reagan and seances.

The market dropped abut 150 points while he was talking.

re: #124 Killgore Trout

They do announce it as some sort of national hymn. Maybe it's a regional song from a South African province or something.

Its a verse , I'm sure, in French, from 'De Stem' - but this verse is no longer part of the official RSA National Anthem.
Trust me - I get to hear this anthem quite often - tomorrow again, for example!
(Yeah - rugby does have some uses ...)

re: #152 Sharmuta

Good job digging!

Just wish I could translate...

re: #150 SummerSong

What will be the name of the Obama's new puppy?

I'm guessing it will be "Hope".

/as in hope it fares better than the Clinton props pets

OT:
0bama on the economy: "It won't be easy to dig our way out of this hole."
------------------------
From the Simpsons (click for mp3 audio):

Mayor Quimby: Mmm, I guess we're not gonna find anything.
Otto: Well how we gonna get outta here?
Homer: We'll dig our way out!
Wiggum: No, no, dig up, stupid!

re: #55 Lee Coller

Why is it that "found" votes are always heavily slanted to the democrat?

Someone else's response to that question, and didn't seem too far fetched as, the Dems pull the big numbers in urban areas with large populations which makes the possibility of miscounts higher whereas the Reps usually do well in the rural areas where it's more difficult to mis-count to 100. That and the electronic scanners reject ballots that are improperly marked. Which group do think has issues following directions.

re: #146 J.S.

basically the Vlaams Belang is singing its National Anthem -- and it's in remembrance of Apartheid in South Africa...(there's the little bit in there about "standing together, fighting the war"...etc.)

Ah, thanks. That does make more sense.

Just to liven things up a bit, after the reports on B0s press conference:
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

re: #148 scottishbuzzsaw

Nice find.

too lazt to reads the whole thread. I there a date to go with this?

re: #155 scottishbuzzsaw

Just wish I could translate...

I'm sure there must be someone here who can. Keep bringing it up.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

The snippet is so short -- there's no context -- or, at least, I can't put the snippet into a context...(like what's this rally all about? it is disturbing to see those children waving those Vlaams Belang flags -- being indoctrinated, etc..)

re: #153 3 wood

he did not want to get into anything about Nancy Reagan and seances.

That fucking clod!

re: #154 yma o hyd

Its a verse , I'm sure, in French, from 'De Stem' - but this verse is no longer part of the official RSA National Anthem.
Trust me - I get to hear this anthem quite often - tomorrow again, for example!
(Yeah - rugby does have some uses ...)

Rugby is a great way of learning how to drink and sing offensive songs. Perhaps Messrs Van Keerbergen and Delacroix would still be in Vlaams Belang if they had stuck to singing "The Hairs on her dicky-di-do."
Incidentally it's a great way to spend time with hookers without endangering your marriage.

re: #118 Kenneth

Unslaked lime

alrighty then.

re: #164 J.S.

The snippet is so short -- there's no context -- or, at least, I can't put the snippet into a context...(like what's this rally all about? it is disturbing to see those children waving those Vlaams Belang flags -- being indoctrinated, etc..)

Indoctrinating children and using them as props at political ralleys are one sure sign of a totalitarian mindset.

re: #153 3 wood

Upshot of President-elect Obama's press conference:

1. Spend money like there is no tomorrow.

2. He does not know how to respond to Dinnerjacket's letter.

3. Then he talked about having talked to all "living Presidents" and when they laughed at that he said that he did not want to get into anything about Nancy Reagan and seances.

The market dropped abut 150 points while he was talking.

So kind of him to take a shot at Mrs. Reagan as she heals from a hip injury. Real Nice, Obama.

re: #150 SummerSong

What will be the name of the Obama's new puppy?

I'm guessing it will be "Hope".

For certain it will be "changed".

re: #168 yma o hyd

Indoctrinating children and using them as props at political ralleys are one sure sign of a totalitarian mindset.

We're soon to have an administration here that does that very thing. And, it wants to force our children to work for it.

re: #166 macoishin

Rugby is a great way of learning how to drink and sing offensive songs. Perhaps Messrs Van Keerbergen and Delacroix would still be in Vlaams Belang if they had stuck to singing "The Hairs on her dicky-di-do."
Incidentally it's a great way to spend time with hookers without endangering your marriage.

Gah - Belgium is nowhere in International Rugby. RSA are the current world Champions - and will meet our lads here tomorrow. We owe them a beating!

re: #166 macoishin

Rugby is a great way of learning how to drink and sing offensive songs. Perhaps Messrs Van Keerbergen and Delacroix would still be in Vlaams Belang if they had stuck to singing "The Hairs on her dicky-di-do."
Incidentally it's a great way to spend time with hookers without endangering your marriage.

Erm - are ye Oirish?

Here's another interesting little snippet about the new Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel:

Emanuel held a seat on the quasi-governmental Freddie Mac board, which paid him $231,655 in director’s fees in 2001 and $31,060 in 2000. During the time Emanuel spent on the board, Freddie Mac was plagued with scandal involving campaign contributions and accounting irregularities.

re: #150 SummerSong

What will be the name of the Obama's new puppy?

I'm guessing it will be "Hope".

I was thinking "Karl", or maybe "Papa Joe".

re: #163 medaura18586

The literal translation of the "Au Vlaams Belang, l'hymm...etc." is "To the Vlaams Belang, their national anthem is that of South Africa (in remembrance of South African Apartheid).

re: #161 Killgore Trout

Nice find.

Here's the English version of FFP's site. Mulder is pleased with Obama's win as it means a less 'arrogant' US policy...

[Link: www.vryheidsfront.co.za...]

re: #171 MandyManners

We're soon to have an administration here that does that very thing. And, it wants to force our children to work for it.

Ex-act-lee!

The youtube clips of that dreadful song, and those young thugs were proper signposts.
Its something all fascists are very good at, be they the more leftie (stalinist) or rightie (hitlerist) sort ...

re: #173 yma o hyd

No, Canuckistani. We are the perennial bridesmaid at the World Cup, but have produced some decent premier league players in our time. You're Welsh I assume?

re: #174 3 wood

Here's another interesting little snippet about the new Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel:

think i can get a raise like that out of my boss?

Charles,

You did the right thing. *Of course* you did the right thing in refusing to give these animals the time of day. I am only sorry that you still feel the need to defend yousrelf from others who should know better.

For what it is worth, you have my respect.

re: #153 3 wood

Upshot of President-elect Obama's press conference:

1. Spend money like there is no tomorrow.

2. He does not know how to respond to Dinnerjacket's letter.

3. Then he talked about having talked to all "living Presidents" and when they laughed at that he said that he did not want to get into anything about Nancy Reagan and seances.

The market dropped abut 150 points while he was talking.

Huh, I don't know anything about Nancy holding seances, but I do know that Joan Quigley was her personal astrologer while she was First Lady.

re: #176 J.S.

Thanks. Nice "remembrance"...

re: #165 MandyManners

That fucking clod!

Yep, Obama had to take a shot a a sick old lady.

from previous thread
we're not the ones that put a nuclear threat on the table .Had this been dealt with properly years ( if not decades ) ago,we would not be in this situation.Due to the western worlds sense of common decency we're too squeamish about war to respond an d the longer we delay the more horrid the necessary response will be .Initially a good "bitch slap" would have beensufficient but now that we've shown several decades of weakness the necesary response is bloody. I'm starting too think Osama's analyses is right and we're the weak horse .Like Gulliver our massive superiority in strength and technology is meaningless without the will to defend ourselves

re: #175 Gearhead

I was thinking "Karl", or maybe "Papa Joe".

Yeah - 'Vlad' is too dificult a name for a puppy.

re: #184 3 wood

Yep, Obama had to take a shot a a sick old lady.

Stay classy, thug.

re: #142 jill e

On recognizing evil from Conversion Diary:

One thing that stands out in all these examples is that the victims of the widespread evil were categorized as something less than human. In fact, though the exact level and degree of evil that took place may vary, one thing that unites all of these practices as worthy of a place in the Human Depravity Hall of Fame is not only that innocent people were killed or enslaved, but that their humanity was taken away by the societies around them. The Nazis classified their victims as sub-human, less worthy of life than the better members of the race; wives were burned with their husbands because they were seen as nothing more than property; in the 90's in Rwanda the media fueled the genocide by assuring citizens over and over again that Tutsis were not fully human, referring to them as insects rather than people; the Romans accepted it as a matter of fact that baby girls inherently had fewer rights to live than baby boys; and in early America enslaved men, women and children were accepted by both government and society at large to be barely above livestock in their dignity and worth.

And in the Muslim "holy book" the infidels are referred to as apes, pigs, donkey's and other animals. What does that tell you?

re: #177 scottishbuzzsaw

Here's the English version of FFP's site. Mulder is pleased with Obama's win as it means a less 'arrogant' US policy...

[Link: www.vryheidsfront.co.za...]

but they cant take the arrogance out of the people.
and the folks on the left are just as arrogant as anyone on the right.

re: #179 macoishin

No, Canuckistani. We are the perennial bridesmaid at the World Cup, but have produced some decent premier league players in our time. You're Welsh I assume?

Yep - and your lot will be fighting us next Saturday.
Won't be as easy as last time ... for you, I mean :-)))

re: #184 3 wood

Yep, Obama had to take a shot a a sick old lady.

And, her dead husband!

re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth

Huh, I don't know anything about Nancy holding seances, but I do know that Joan Quigley was her personal astrologer while she was First Lady.

Well, the Messiah felt moved to make fun of President Reagan's widow on a national broadcast.

Do you feel the love and unification out there yet, folks?

Singing Nazis

OT, but interesting (scary):

Rich nations should ditch 'unsustainable' lifestyles: China's Wen

First paragraph:
"Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and a top UN official urged industrialised nations Friday to alter their lifestyles and not let the global financial crisis hamper climate change efforts."

Last paragraphs:
"China has long resisted calls to join rich nations in setting targets for emissions cuts, saying its relatively low per capita emissions and recent emergence as a major source of greenhouse gases should exempt it from action."

"Scientists said in September that China had leapfrogged the United States as the world's biggest producer of carbon dioxide (CO2), one of the principal gases that cause global warming. "

Am I reading this wrong? China is calling on "industrialized nations" to alter lifestyles, but doesn't consider itself responsible for any of this so-called "global warming." Hubris?

re: #178 yma o hyd

Ex-act-lee!

The youtube clips of that dreadful song, and those young thugs were proper signposts.
Its something all fascists are very good at, be they the more leftie (stalinist) or rightie (hitlerist) sort ...

CBBHO's win makes me more disappointed for The Kid than for myself--he's gonna' have to deal with the effects of that prick's policies down the road.

re: #187 mama winger

Stay classy, thug.

'Classy' is above his pay grade - always will be.

Going to the park. bbl

He really said that about Nancy Reagan?

Evidently tact got put on the same shelf as the faux Southern accent.

re: #174 3 wood

It seems those Freddie Mac sub-prime mortgages bought a fine house at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

re: #192 3 wood

Well, the Messiah felt moved to make fun of President Reagan's widow on a national broadcast.

Do you feel the love and unification out there yet, folks?

Wasn't there some nonsense about Hillary communing with the spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt?

re: #153 3 wood

Upshot of President-elect Obama's press conference:

1. Spend money like there is no tomorrow.

2. He does not know how to respond to Dinnerjacket's letter.

3. Then he talked about having talked to all "living Presidents" and when they laughed at that he said that he did not want to get into anything about Nancy Reagan and seances.

The market dropped abut 150 points while he was talking.

that nancy reagan insult wasn't funny. he is a disrespectful jerk,
someone needs to make it plain to the president elect that acting bitchy like that is very unbecoming. that bs is more acceptable from teenage girls.

re: #194 subsailor68

That's the way it reads to me. What's good for you isn't necessarily good for me.

re: #189 Eowyn2

yes arrogance is a terrible thing .It'll be a great comfort too me as I trundle home with my mandatory prayer rug that I wasn't arrogant.(Our weaponized etiquette wil stop them in their tracks)

re: #187 mama winger

Stay classy, thug.

That's what I mean about the Chicago Way, Mama.

Those who have never lived in Chicago probably do not get what I mean.

The Chicago Way boils down to this, if you do not support them without hesitation, they do not want to understand you, they do not want to listen to you, they do not want to even know you.

You are someone to stomp into the ground, and be magnanimous in defeat.

re: #202 CommonCents

That's the way it reads to me. What's good for you isn't necessarily good for me.

Thanks! And a perfect summation by the way! :-)

re: #194 subsailor68

OT, but interesting (scary):

Rich nations should ditch 'unsustainable' lifestyles: China's Wen

First paragraph:
"Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and a top UN official urged industrialised nations Friday to alter their lifestyles and not let the global financial crisis hamper climate change efforts."

Last paragraphs:
"China has long resisted calls to join rich nations in setting targets for emissions cuts, saying its relatively low per capita emissions and recent emergence as a major source of greenhouse gases should exempt it from action."

"Scientists said in September that China had leapfrogged the United States as the world's biggest producer of carbon dioxide (CO2), one of the principal gases that cause global warming. "

Am I reading this wrong? China is calling on "industrialized nations" to alter lifestyles, but doesn't consider itself responsible for any of this so-called "global warming." Hubris?

Not so much Hubris as knowing that western lefties are suckers for this kind of rhetoric. They know their enemy.

re: #194 subsailor68

OT, but interesting (scary):

Rich nations should ditch 'unsustainable' lifestyles: China's Wen

First paragraph:
"Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and a top UN official urged industrialised nations Friday to alter their lifestyles and not let the global financial crisis hamper climate change efforts."

Last paragraphs:
"China has long resisted calls to join rich nations in setting targets for emissions cuts, saying its relatively low per capita emissions and recent emergence as a major source of greenhouse gases should exempt it from action."

"Scientists said in September that China had leapfrogged the United States as the world's biggest producer of carbon dioxide (CO2), one of the principal gases that cause global warming. "

Am I reading this wrong? China is calling on "industrialized nations" to alter lifestyles, but doesn't consider itself responsible for any of this so-called "global warming." Hubris?

Outstanding stupidity - if 'the rich nations' change their lifestyle, who will buy all that China produces? Chona will then be forced to reduce its CO2 emissions not voluntarily but because all its factories will be shut down ...
But hey, we can live very well without that plastic crap.

OT

Obama called himself a "mutt" just like a shelter dog at his press conference when asked about getting a family dog.

re: #48 Killgore Trout

I think this is a video of Dewinter and Vlaam Belang singing the national anthem of apartheid South Africa at a recent event.....
Au Vlaams Belang, l'hymne national c'est celui de l'Afrique du Sud (en souvenir de l'apartheid sud-africain)

Can anyone confirm this?

They do this every year in August at Ijzerwake, and in the Fall at Zangerfeest (might have the name of that second wrong, working from memory here.)

re: #194 subsailor68

OT, but interesting (scary):

Rich nations should ditch 'unsustainable' lifestyles: China's Wen

First paragraph:
"Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and a top UN official urged industrialised nations Friday to alter their lifestyles and not let the global financial crisis hamper climate change efforts."

Last paragraphs:
"China has long resisted calls to join rich nations in setting targets for emissions cuts, saying its relatively low per capita emissions and recent emergence as a major source of greenhouse gases should exempt it from action."

"Scientists said in September that China had leapfrogged the United States as the world's biggest producer of carbon dioxide (CO2), one of the principal gases that cause global warming. "

Am I reading this wrong? China is calling on "industrialized nations" to alter lifestyles, but doesn't consider itself responsible for any of this so-called "global warming." Hubris?

Playing to the environmental movement, trying to get us to commit economic suicide so they can be dominant.

re: #206 Syrah

Another great point...especially now that the head western lefty is getting set for an inauguration.

re: #194 subsailor68

"China has long resisted calls to join rich nations in setting targets for emissions cuts, saying its relatively low per capita emissions and recent emergence as a major source of greenhouse gases should exempt it from action."

That paragraph is so full of contradictions it proves these idiots haven't a clue. They can't even keep their pseudo-science jargon straight. He thinks the fact China is a major source of greenhouse gases is a good thing.

re: #194 subsailor68

We buy all sorts of stuff from China as part of our "unsustainable lifestyle." Where does he suggest we cut back? Computers? Clothing? Golf clubs?

re: #212 Kenneth

Hmmm...interesting. Maybe he's a tree.

re: #201 nyc redneck

that nancy reagan insult wasn't funny. he is a disrespectful jerk,
someone needs to make it plain to the president elect that acting bitchy like that is very unbecoming. that bs is more acceptable from teenage girls.

The MSM sure laughed about it too. They thought it was hysterical.

re: #207 yma o hyd

Outstanding stupidity - if 'the rich nations' change their lifestyle, who will buy all that China produces? Chona will then be forced to reduce its CO2 emissions not voluntarily but because all its factories will be shut down ...
But hey, we can live very well without that plastic crap.

I wonder what they consider a "rich nation"? One with 10 trillion or debt or one with at least a trillion in cash reserves? I think Wen might want to clarify his answer as China is the rich nation.

re: #191 MandyManners

And, her dead husband!

I thought he was just making a jab at her history of consulting mystics, I hadn't thought about in that light. That's awful. I am not looking forward to four years of BHO nuance.

re: #213 onslow

Heh, heh. With my golf game, cutting back on golf clubs would be okay by me. :-)

re: #207 yma o hyd

Outstanding stupidity - if 'the rich nations' change their lifestyle, who will buy all that China produces? Chona will then be forced to reduce its CO2 emissions not voluntarily but because all its factories will be shut down ...
But hey, we can live very well without that plastic crap.

what? no more Hello Kitty combination bottle openers/cork screws/apple corers? perish the thought!
/can it core a apple? ohhhh...it can core a apple!

An example of the banality of evil. On a beautiful day, 2 well fed human beings, responding to the invitation of a female companion, sat around a table and smiled while singing out putrescence.

re: #194 subsailor68

but their emissions 'standards' are on a per capita basis; a billion more people with lower emissions does not equivelate. Is equivelate a word. If not, it should be.

re: #218 subsailor68

Mine sucks too.

Drudge has the Obama shot at Nancy Reagan.

re: #221 Eowyn2

but their emissions 'standards' are on a per capita basis; a billion more people with lower emissions does not equivelate. Is equivelate a word. If not, it should be.

Terrific! That one jumped out at me as well. Wonder, per-capita wise, how China would stack up against, say, SOUTH DAKOTA. Ha!

re: #222 Onslow

Mine sucks too.

I'm sorry...but it's still fun right?

Right?

Maybe?

Just for grins. I've no tour aspirations.

re: #203 mahatma coat

yes arrogance is a terrible thing .It'll be a great comfort too me as I trundle home with my mandatory prayer rug that I wasn't arrogant.(Our weaponized etiquette wil stop them in their tracks)

I have always liked the fact taht we are independent minded people. It is what made this country great.

re: #224 subsailor68

Either Dakota or MT or WY would lose during the summer when all the planting is being done. Now that Autumn has Fallen (I kill me) and there's NOBODY MOVING in SD, I dont think China would have a chance.

re: #227 Eowyn2

I have always liked the fact taht we are independent minded people. It is what made this country great.

Indeed. I've never understand the allure of wanting the rest of the world to "love" us. I'm just fine with us standing independent and free of their chains.

Yet more proof that:

1- Charles had these guys pegged from the start.
2- White supremacists just can't contain themselves, eventually their virulent hatred of Jews comes out
3- Associate with white supremacists at your own risk, 'cause they might just turn on you

That is all.

re: #228 Eowyn2

Either Dakota or MT or WY would lose during the summer when all the planting is being done. Now that Autumn has Fallen (I kill me) and there's NOBODY MOVING in SD, I dont think China would have a chance.

LOL! "Autumn has Fallen". Priceless.

re: #201 nyc redneck

that nancy reagan insult wasn't funny. he is a disrespectful jerk,
someone needs to make it plain to the president elect that acting bitchy like that is very unbecoming. that bs is more acceptable from teenage girls.

I watched the conference too.

For me the most amazing moment was when one of the reporter asked him about the upcoming tax hike for those making over $250K and he totally ducked the question and instead continued the campaign stump about 95% will get a tax cut.

/unbelievable

re: #194 subsailor68

... Am I reading this wrong? ...

Not at all, considering the sentiments of one of the founding fathers of environmentalism, Kyoto Treaty, and carbon credits:

"Economic growth is not the cure; it is the disease."
[snip]
Actually, Strong's three sources of evil are really just one source -- Western civilization. Although he has reaped enormous personal profits from the Western ways of business and life, Strong has been a lifelong biter of the hands that feed him so well. In 1990, he even mused about a possible revolution against "industrialized civilizations."

What if it were concluded, Strong romanticized, "that the principal risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? ... Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring this about?"

[Link: www.lifesitenews.com...]

had to go out and buy a Bore Snake for a m-16 my son in the I.D.F. wanted one you would think a army would supple that sort of thing.

the I.D.F. todays answer to nazi scum

And the difference between what they're singing and what Obama's terrorist friends are singing is?

OMG...these guys are sick fuckers. Whoever associates with this group or anyone closely resembling them has some serious issues.

*spit*

Is it possible for the Europeans to have a conservative political party that is not expressly racist or antisemitic?

I wonder sometimes.

Conservative like you might see in a USA conservative party. Freedom to keep and bear arms, free enterprise, minimal government, that sort of thing. From time to time, I find myself referred over to conservative sites like that. Read off the various policy positions. I agree with this, I agree with that.........but invariably I'll hit a policy position that makes it clear I would not be welcome in that group because of.....well, you know. Who I am, or who I chose to marry. No mixing and all that.

Is it possible to be a USA-style conservative in Europe without racism and anti-Semitism? Is it in the genetics or something? I come to understand why my ancestors left.

Maybe I'm getting steered to the wrong places.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

just counting the days i think it will be in the middleast were biden with be right and mr. b.o. gets tested.

Hi Everyone,

OT - I only have a few posts under my lizard skin. Is anyone else having problems posting on The Ones Nancy Reagan comment thread?

re: #239 Abbey

Hi Everyone,

OT - I only have a few posts under my lizard skin. Is anyone else having problems posting on The Ones Nancy Reagan comment thread?

CANNOT OPEN COMMENTS ON NANCY REAGAN THREAD

Thanks! I hope it was not ugly.

re: #240 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #108 FrogMarch

"Unslaked" means it's limed NOT mixed with water...(lime, not hydrated, will quickly desiccate/dry organic matter..thus it's used to rapidly decompose organic matter.)

Gag, what a couple of sickos.

I've really given up on Pamela and the folks over at GOV, they know exactly what they're embracing and they've decided that they don't care.

It grieves me to see an intelligent, decent man like Robert Spencer embracing groups like Vlams Belang, though... so disturbing, on so many levels.

Robert, if you're reading this... please, for the love of mike, PLEASE open your eyes to who and what these people are, before it's too late. Charles is right on this, and he's taking a tremendous amount of flack for being a man of courage and integrity. He deserves your support and your friendship, Mr. Spencer, not your criticism.

re: #243 irish rose

Rose- he does know exactly with whom he's dealing. This has been going on for over a year now- and he's not a stupid man. Now he's using an LGF stalker blog as a source for posts for his blog. It's pretty clear that he's chosen his side.

Just as people were convinced that the Fascists/Nazis were the only force to counter the Bolsheviks, they now believe the neo-Fascists are only force to counter militant Islam.

A bad bargain then, a bad bargain now.

Thanks for being an all-around good guy, Charles. We wouldn't agree on much in everyday partisan politics, but I don't think that matters. What does is that on transcendent issues like this, you take a strong stand for good.

Don't ever let anyone get away with calling this a hate site.

re: #246 DU Jimbo

Thanks for being an all-around good guy, Charles. We wouldn't agree on much in everyday partisan politics, but I don't think that matters. What does is that on transcendent issues like this, you take a strong stand for good.

Don't ever let anyone get away with calling this a hate site.

Well, if you mean that, and you're really from Democratic Underground, you might want to start looking at what's going on in your own neighborhood.

I appreciate the compliment. But seriously -- it's a little hard to take after the hateful garbage that comes out of that site and many other left-wing sites.

Now hold on, Charles. DU has a huge membership which runs the gamut from soup to nuts, but so does LGF. Just sayin'....

I hope you're not equating us to real hate sites like Rense, Vanguard, Stormfront et al. If that's what you think, you might want to ease up on the Starbucks.

re: #248 DU Jimbo

Now hold on, Charles. DU has a huge membership which runs the gamut from soup to nuts, but so does LGF. Just sayin'....

I hope you're not equating us to real hate sites like Rense, Vanguard, Stormfront et al. If that's what you think, you might want to ease up on the Starbucks.

You have never seen anything at LGF that even comes close to the crap that appears regularly at DU.

Sorry, but after the evil comments that have been directed at me and my site for years, your compliment rings rather hollow. As I said, I appreciate the nice words, but you have a serious problem there.

re: #250 Jonas Salk

So what makes Charles think that these two jokers are "leaders" of those parties? There is no evidence that they are "leaders" of those parties or ever were. I guess Charles can't point out any evidence showing this, so he has to declare them "leaders" to try to show that there is a larger support for this kind of idiocy in those parties than there actually is. If two Democrats or two Republicans sung a song like this, would we call them "leaders" and start demonizing the entire party? I think not.

Are you seriously going to try to float that garbage here?

Michel Delacroix was the LEADER of the Belgian National Front. Look it up.

And Luc Van Keerbergen was elected to the social service department (OCMW) in Machelen. He was a local leader of the party.

Gross.

But I'm not sure about the "Caught" part...to be caught you normally have to be doing something that you are ashamed of and it normally implies a hidden camera.

oh well, not worth the time IMO.

......attacked and smeared LGF for refusing to be associated with these Neanderthals.

I just want to reach out and give you a big hug and a kiss for that! :D
I admire your courage for standing up for what's right, Charles!

A hoax. Flamish people sing songs french no better than average americans do. Most likely some french/wallom papareazzi served then an ale and asked the to sing a song with him in his accented language. And cached. Happens all the time.

re: #254 Winston Y. Smith

A hoax. Flamish people sing songs french no better than average americans do. Most likely some french/wallom papareazzi served then an ale and asked the to sing a song with him in his accented language. And cached. Happens all the time.

You are completely full of crap. This is no hoax. Delacroix has resigned over it, and Van Keerbergen has been ousted from the VB.

You're out of here.

re: #254 Winston Y. Smith

That's a ridiculous and weak attempt at excusing vile behavior. The video is right there for everyone to see. They know the words, they know the meaning, and they are enjoying themselves.

re: #254 Winston Y. Smith
Right! You are a bona fide nut.

Belgians must have been shocked; shocked & outraged that two supposed Flemish nationalists would sing in French!

This was probably the real reason they were asked to leave the movement.

Dutch-speaking Belgians do not care for their French-speaking neighbors and vice-versa. There is a distinct difference between these two disparate peoples. You can literally see a physical difference in the cleanliness of the cities and towns.

The only commonality they had (in the early 19th century) was religion. They need to go their own separate ways. The Flemish have borne more than their fair share of the load for too long but they need to find representation that can engineer an amicable divorce without the Fascist baggage.

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The resignation of delacroix

Ugh...the pendulum swings to such extremes in 'ole europe.