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Bullying Teacher in Hot Water

Video | Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:53:51 pm PST

Bill Harris, superintendent of schools in Cumberland County, North Carolina, has put up a video statement on that teacher seen bullying students who supported John McCain; the incident will be “thoroughly investigated and appropriate action will be taken.”

Good on him for doing the right thing. (And it was a smart move to YouTube this.)

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(Hat tip: AP.)

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1 musicman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:54:28pm

Saw this! I like a man that goes straight to the public!

2 Racer X  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:55:10pm

Racist!

3 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:55:13pm

Expect him to be destroyed as a hate monger racist in 5...4...3...2...

4 OldLineTexan  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:55:30pm

He looks rather typically white, and sounds bitter.

/better have the Office of Change watch him

5 Shug  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:56:17pm

Good for Bill harris. transparency is always the best policy

6 bombay311  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:56:20pm

Good for him
I bet his career is over

7 J.S.  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:56:34pm

I am so glad/relieved to hear this! And pleased that he's using YouTube! Thank you, sir.

8 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:57:21pm

Good.
Teachers are paid to teach, not browbeat children.
What a fair fight indeed!

9 musicman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:57:23pm

How soon before Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton run to the teachers aid?

10 BlueCanuck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:57:33pm

Excellent. Well done sir, and best of luck.

11 zato  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:58:10pm

Dems are probably already ordering illegal background checks on this dude and MSNBC will likely send out reporters to investigate his background.

12 Shug  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:58:28pm

This would have never happened in Chicago.

13 bombay311  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:59:02pm

thats he Bill Harris I knew

14 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:59:25pm

Heavy on the CYA, but good to know that this has come to his attention. Hope some appropriate discipline comes from the investigation.

Hat's off to the Lizards (or anyone else) who got this to Mr. Harris.

15 AdamWebber  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:59:35pm

I hope that some action is actually taken against that teacher. I have first hand reports from friends that this was going on in at least three other schools in a different town, same state. They reported it, but alas no video so it was just swept under the rug. Sadly, this incident would most likely have been as well without the evidence.

16 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:59:41pm

Does the bully have tenure? What will the NCEA do?

17 outsidephilly  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 2:59:41pm

I wonder about the child she berated

18 Catttt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:00:03pm

Good.

I was just listening to the New York teachers ad on WABC and thinking of all the GOOD teachers out there who work hard to do a good job. My parents were teachers, and they were superb. I thought of this woman as I listened to the ad and felt sorry for all the children who must put up with pitiful excuses for teachers.

19 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:00:14pm

Now, follow up. Let's see how he goes up against the teacher's union.
Wait for charges of racism to emerge in 5, 4, 3, 2...

20 Intifan  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:00:15pm

Good for him. Bravo, Mr. Harris. Bravo.

21 undhimmicratic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:00:57pm

It saddens me that in the present climate such a clear, just and forthright statement seems like an act of courage.

22 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:00:59pm

I was really struck by his saying that the school district has 15,000 military families in it.

23 tunnelrat  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:01:03pm

I expect him to issue a statement that says the teacher was the victim, and that said teacher will be suspended WITH pay.

24 Catttt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:01:16pm

re: #19 rawmuse

Now, follow up. Let's see how he goes up against the teacher's union.
Wait for charges of racism to emerge in 5, 4, 3, 2...

That could prove interesting, since she was picking exclusively on white children.

25 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:01:35pm

Bravo! Now I, for one, want to see what action you'll take.

Speaking as a small employer, I am not always aware of all the actions of my employees. I do have the responsibility to supervise them and when warranted, to take disciplinary action. Giving the gentleman the benefit of the doubt, he's now aware of the situation. Knowing that there is an issue is the first step to fixing it.

26 arethusa  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:01:47pm

I heard that the child berated was the child of a serviceman. Which makes me question the teacher's behavior even further than I already was.

27 Elcid[deleted]  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:03:07pm
28 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:03:09pm

Another Robert Spencer fan sends a love note; he got here by clicking a link at the Discovery Institute's Russia Blog. Subject: "IHT proves LGF was wrong"

on Russia and Georgia. Any apologies to the people you smeared as
Kremlin stooges and apologists? Of course not, anymore than you will
apologize to Robert Spencer for calling him a racist/facist or anyone
else you've alienated with your self-righteous obsessions, seeing
"racists" and "creationists" behind every curtain. But they were right
and you were wrong. Your first post about the "brutal Russian assault
on South Ossetia" was false. The OSCE monitors say Georgia attacked
first.

With a link to this article:

[Link: www.iht.com...]

(If you Google "OCSE bias" you'll find that their reports are generally not well respected.)

29 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:03:11pm

re: #9 musicman

They're fully engaged in receiving their spoils seeing how much they can get from BHO.

30 stevieray  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:03:21pm

A good first step.

All teachers should be like Brian Lamb... someone who you cannot tell which side of the political spectrum they occupy.

To be anyway else is to be a propagandist, and not a teacher.

31 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:03:31pm

re: #24 Catttt

That could prove interesting, since she was picking exclusively on white children.

But he himself is a white man charged with meting out at the very least, a disciplinary action against a person of color, a woman, in the South.

They will call it a lynching. They are probably doing it already.

32 Crusty  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:03:54pm

Well, I'm glad that .001% of America's teachers who are brainwashing our children into become liberals is being held accountable for it. When do we go after the rest of them?

33 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:03:54pm

I want to see this all the way to the end, not just a "Well good, now let's look at something else."
This Diantha needs to be made an example.
O-LIAR needs to see her wickedness like we saw it.

/yeah, I said O-LIAR.............

34 Intifan  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:04:47pm

re: #32 Crusty

Well, I'm glad that .001% of America's teachers who are brainwashing our children into become liberals is being held accountable for it. When do we go after the rest of them?

You mean .00000001% ?

35 musicman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:05:03pm

Does anybody else get Related Searches: "Obama's Plan when you Google the word Plan? How did they get Google to do that?

36 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:05:06pm

re: #28 Charles

robert has interesting readers.

37 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:05:08pm

re: #32 Crusty

When do we go after the rest of them?

As soon as possible!

38 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:05:19pm

that woman is a disgrace.
she should never be in in a class room posing as a teacher before children.
this is the kind of unqualified, inept person who needs to be ruthlessly weeded out of the educational system.

39 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:05:37pm

We don't have teacher's unions in NC, so there is no one to protect this hate-mongering ass-clown. This needs to be made a public spectacle of.

40 Sunlight  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:05:39pm

re: #17 outsidephilly

I wonder about the child she berated

And don't you think that if this teacher and her dancing friends were willing to say these things on camera (I think it was a Euro station doing a documentary, right?), then how many other times has it happened? I think the teachers owe an apology to the military community for treating their kids like that. Imagine telling one of your students that her dad is fighting for nothing. Have they provided "grief counselor" type people for these kids? Talk from this guy is cheap. He needs to stand up and support the troops in his school district with more enthusiasm and if he can't, he should transfer to some area without military families.

41 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:06:25pm

re: #35 musicman

Does anybody else get Related Searches: "Obama's Plan when you Google the word Plan? How did they get Google to do that?

They used special Al Gore Rhythms...

42 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:06:34pm

Here's another love note, not related to Spencer for a change, from a Booby [sic] Jindal fan:

your obsession w/ bobby jindal is just bizarre. i think this is a
pathetic attempt at catharsis - you get attacked for going after dark
muslims, so it makes you feel better going after dark conservatives.
Classy.

43 musicman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:06:42pm

re: #41 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

They used special Al Gore Rhythms...

*GROAN*

44 tommygum  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:07:22pm

re: #31 rawmuse

But he himself is a white man charged with meting out at the very least, a disciplinary action against a person of color, a woman, in the South.

They will call it a lynching. They are probably doing it already.

How long before she sneaks a noose on her doorknob some night?

45 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:07:50pm

Levin leading his show with the Zero taking the classless shot at Nancy Reagan.

46 Sean  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:08:08pm

Racism is over. Sorry.

47 3 wood  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:08:14pm

I expect that in response the NEA will:

1. Bring grievance charges against this administrator for harrassment and try to get him fired.

2. Give this teacher a medal.

3. Develop a new program for each election, based on this teachers actions, to interrogate students in class and berate/humiliate anyone not supporting their political views and to harrass the children of military folks.

48 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:08:29pm

Of course now that Barack Obama is our President there'll be no way of preventing teachers from gloating over him in the classroom.

I have no doubt that right now teachers across the country are already hanging pictures of our new leader on classroom walls and teaching their students about the wonderful new age that we are all about to enter.

49 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:08:35pm

re: #44 tommygum

How long before she sneaks a noose on her doorknob some night?

I now every mau-mau tactic you can imagine. And there are some with which I have personal experience.

50 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:09:00pm
i think this is a pathetic attempt at catharsis

WTF?

Rotating title nomination?

51 shay4l  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:09:39pm

Nothing will come of it above a slap on the wrist, if that. Vouchers, private school and home schooling are the only answer, currently.

52 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:09:44pm

re: #45 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Levin leading his show with the Zero taking the classless shot at Nancy Reagan.

That's why he's the Great One.

53 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:09:55pm

re: #28 Charles

Another Robert Spencer fan sends a love note; he got here by clicking a link at the Discovery Institute's Russia Blog. Subject: "IHT proves LGF was wrong"

With a link to this article:

[Link: www.iht.com...]

(If you Google "OCSE bias" you'll find that their reports are generally not well respected.)

US Army troops have invaded Texas! Oh, wait—We're part of the US. Nevermind.

54 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:02pm

The Public attention span is that of a gnat. Today is Friday, a day nobody but us watches the news. No MSM will report the commie teacher or Harris' response. Diantha will be promoted into the new Ministry of Goodthink as a "trainer." Gnatpeople will watch CSI:Whatever and feel good about justice and equality.

Another child will grow thinking it's wrong to believe in American Supremacy, her parents, the honor of serving as a warrior and move another step towards groupthink believing it's all her fault for being born white.

55 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:02pm

If she has tenure, the union will make it impossible to fire her. The best one can hope for is that she gets "thrown upstairs" into one of the meaningless administrative jobs that abound in the public school system.

56 quickjustice  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:04pm

Time to break out the winged pig, Charles!

57 Sean  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:09pm

I won't be gloating over The One in my classroom.

58 Crusty  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:30pm

re: #28 Charles

Another Robert Spencer fan sends a love note; he got here by clicking a link at the Discovery Institute's Russia Blog. Subject: "IHT proves LGF was wrong"


With a link to this article:

[Link: www.iht.com...]

(If you Google "OCSE bias" you'll find that their reports are generally not well respected.)

That's one of the side effects of the news media having the worst journalistic ethics in history today. No matter what side you want to take on an issue, you can go out there and link to a shoddy piece of journalism to provide the illusion that you're right.

59 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:30pm

re: #42 Charles

Here's another love note, not related to Spencer for a change, from a Booby [sic] Jindal fan:

Unhinged is an understatement.

60 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:33pm

What I'd like to see is a public apology from the teacher.

61 Larry Everett  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:39pm

>...Good on him for doing the right thing.

Then he should know we wish good on him. Mr. Harris needs some encouragement. He may not read LGF. (maybe we can change that)
Anyone have an E-mail address ?

62 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:10:42pm

re: #57 Sean

I won't be gloating over The One in my classroom.

Glad to hear it.

63 Shug  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:11:21pm

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

What I'd like to see is a public apology from the teacher.

I'd like to see him placed into the stocks for a week.

64 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:11:34pm

re: #52 Who Watches the Watchmen?

That's why he's the Great One.

He pointed out that it was HILLARY who had seances to "talk" to Eleanor Roosevelt. Nancy Reagan supposedly consulted with some astrologer.

65 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:11:40pm

re: #63 Shug

I'd like to see him placed into the stocks for a week.

her.

66 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:11:46pm

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

Enumerating everything that she did wrong.

67 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:12:38pm

re: #63 Shug

I'd like to see him placed into the stocks for a week.

It was a "her" and I predict there will be no apology, for the teacher believed she did no wrong. This is the world they inhabit.

68 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:12:44pm

re: #44 tommygum

How long before she sneaks a noose on her doorknob some night?

yeah, like that slob at columbia U. to deflect the focus from all her plagiarism of students and fellow faculty members.

69 3 wood  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:12:55pm

This is another good reason to home school if you can.

We have home schooled all of our children. My oldest graduated cum laude, my second is halfway through to her degree, my youngest started college at 16.

70 Catttt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:13:33pm

re: #42 Charles

Here's another love note, not related to Spencer for a change, from a Booby [sic] Jindal fan:

Very funny that this one mentions "obsession," since these people seem uber obsessed with you. There has to be some kind of deep-seated psychological thing going on with them. Love me daddy, maybe?

I've disagreed with you on Bobby Jindal, without being rude or getting booted and while respecting other opinions. Geez - this is a place where we can DISCUSS things. That is what I love about it - it is full of smart people who make varying points on subjects instead of marching lockstep into the fascist future. I consider people here with whom I disagree on a variety of subjects to be my FRIENDS. We are adults! This is the USA, where we can agree to disagree and still be comrades!

Maybe THAT's why they pick on LGF. They want everyone to be on the same page - to agree with THEM on everything. In other words - fascism.

71 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:13:39pm

re: #67 rawmuse

It was a "her" and I predict there will be no apology, for the teacher believed she did no wrong. This is the world they inhabit.

People like her should not be allowed near children.

72 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:14:08pm

re: #42 Charles

Here's another love note, not related to Spencer for a change, from a Booby [sic] Jindal fan:

Booby Jindal. Sounds like a foreign-translated porn flick. Should have been Booby Jingles. You know, for the Holidays.

73 nightlight  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:14:17pm

The producer of the film defends the teacher! (What a jerk)

Asheville – The producer of a film that features a former Asheville schoolteacher talking presidential politics in the classroom defended the teacher in an interview today.

Swedish filmmaker Folke Ryden said teacher Diantha Harris was “exaggerating” when she told a child her father would stay in the military for 100 years if McCain won the election.

Bloggers are off the mark in saying Harris was “belittling” a child during the May lesson in her Cumberland County classroom, he said.

Harris is a dedicated teacher who used humor – like saying “Oh Lord” and “Oh Jesus” when the fifth-grader said she supported McCain.

That language was intended to fire up her class and engage students in a discussion, Ryden said in a telephone interview from Sweden.


[Link: www.citizen-times.com...]

74 3 wood  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:14:29pm

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

What I'd like to see is a public apology from the teacher.

Agreed, but instead I'm sure she already has an ACLU attorney who will holler racism.

75 Sean  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:14:56pm

This "Teacher" is why my kids are in a private school, not in the public school system that I work for.

76 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:15:26pm

re: #66 Slumbering Behemoth

Enumerating everything that she did wrong.

Later in the documentary she is shown wearing an Obama button.
They don't enforce rules about politics in the classroom there?
I wonder what would happen to a teacher wearing a McCain button at school?
well i really don't wonder

77 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:16:11pm

re: #67 rawmuse

It was a "her" and I predict there will be no apology, for the teacher believed she did no wrong. This is the world they inhabit.

Students bullying other students = not okay.

Teachers bullying students = okay.

78 Sean  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:17:03pm

Do you think if this had been a PBS documentary that the video would've been erased/LATimes'd?

79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:17:06pm

re: #76 HoosierHoops

I wonder what would happen to a teacher wearing a McCain button at school?

That would be hate speech.

80 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:17:08pm

Another Spencer fan accuses me of "racism," for referring to that video of kids singing about Barack Obama -- he says I really was talking about Obama's daughters.

Yes it was certainly disturbing to watch this video, to see all those
fictional and real-life children brainwashed.

However, perhaps the most disturbing comment of all was the your own
comment with which you ended the piece.

“Admit it — you thought about this movie too when you saw the
creepy Obama kids.”

I personally have never found anything “creepy” about
Obama’s two daughters. They have always seemed to me like two
perfectly normal, sweet little girls.

Your comments might interpreted as racism. Whilst I will not accuse
you of such a thing, it seems to me rather a cheap shot and unwarranted
accusation, I do at least find your comments mean-spirited.

Goes on in this vein for a while, before telling me that I'm stupid (as well as a racist) and Spencer is a genius.

81 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:17:15pm

re: #70 Catttt

I believe it's called "projection".

82 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:17:19pm

It's Fayetteville,NC
Fort Brag
Pope AF Base

83 ClosetConservative  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:17:45pm

re: #3 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll be watching DKos. I'll bet they have something nice to have about this bitter, gun clinging redneck hick.

84 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:18:01pm

re: #73 nightlight

That just about sums up the Left in all its glory.

85 gymnast  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:18:08pm

The "Colleges of Education" in our nations universities are turning out trash talking ideologues like the "lady teacher" in the Cumberland schools by the tens of thousands Thanks to "Distinguished Professors of Education" like Bill Ayers" and his acolytes.

86 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:18:21pm

re: #73 nightlight

The producer of the film defends the teacher! (What a jerk)

Asheville – The producer of a film that features a former Asheville schoolteacher talking presidential politics in the classroom defended the teacher in an interview today.

Swedish filmmaker Folke Ryden said teacher Diantha Harris was “exaggerating” when she told a child her father would stay in the military for 100 years if McCain won the election.

Bloggers are off the mark in saying Harris was “belittling” a child during the May lesson in her Cumberland County classroom, he said.

Harris is a dedicated teacher who used humor – like saying “Oh Lord” and “Oh Jesus” when the fifth-grader said she supported McCain.

That language was intended to fire up her class and engage students in a discussion, Ryden said in a telephone interview from Sweden.


[Link: www.citizen-times.com...]

folke ryden is a fcking imbecile. these kids are 11 yrs. old, they don't need to be fired up abt. politics thru ridicule and abuse from this illiterate beast w/ her own selfish agenda.

87 Sean  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:18:26pm

re: #80 Charles

There is no more racism, Charles. It ended Tuesday night.

88 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:19:29pm

re: #80 Charles

Wow! I don't recall anyone mentioning the Obama girls.

89 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:19:34pm

re: #80 Charles

Send him this. RIF

/cuz reading is teh hard!

90 Catttt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:20:00pm

re: #72 Sol Roth

Booby Jindal. Sounds like a foreign-translated porn flick. Should have been Booby Jingles. You know, for the Holidays.

The Nipple Song. :D

91 outsidephilly  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:20:08pm

re: #40 Sunlight

And don't you think that if this teacher and her dancing friends were willing to say these things on camera (I think it was a Euro station doing a documentary, right?), then how many other times has it happened? I think the teachers owe an apology to the military community for treating their kids like that. Imagine telling one of your students that her dad is fighting for nothing. Have they provided "grief counselor" type people for these kids? Talk from this guy is cheap. He needs to stand up and support the troops in his school district with more enthusiasm and if he can't, he should transfer to some area without military families.

This guy is just making like he's gonna do 'something'!

92 J.S.  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:20:40pm

re: #55 wolfie

A poster upthread noted that there are no teacher's unions in North Carolina...(?)

93 arethusa  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:20:46pm

re: #87 Sean

There is no more racism, Charles. It ended Tuesday night.

Ah, but race-baiting still seems to be around, unfortunately.

94 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:21:43pm

re: #80 Charles

Spencer sides with the VB gang and you're the one accused of racism?!

95 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:21:57pm

My wife teaches Special Ed. Let's just say that some of her co-workers did not appreciate her McCain/Palin sticker. Or at a different school in 04, her Bush/Cheney sticker.

She had a sticker on her car, they wore buttons TO school and preach the praises of Obama.

96 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:22:05pm

I always thought it was a teacher's job to teach children how to think. That is what I call education.

In this case, this woman seems to think a teacher's job is to teach children WHAT to think. That is what I call indocrination.

My left moonbat sister school teacher can shove it.

97 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:22:18pm

I also have one or two Spencer-related emails that are basically nothing but profanities.

98 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:22:30pm

re: #92 J.S.

A poster upthread noted that there are no teacher's unions in North Carolina...(?)

The way the state is trending, I do not expect that to continue.
But I hope they can keep it out, if California is any example. What are we, dead last? If not we are close.

99 logboy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:22:48pm

re: #91 outsidephilly

This guy is just making like he's gonna do 'something'!

No, that guy is extremely uneasy. What how he can't sit still and fidgets with the cards. He's feeling pressure from someone. 15,000 military children? Thats amazing. No doubt the first stop for the BOzo indoctrination program.

100 tommygum  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:22:50pm

re: #48 Ringo the Gringo

Of course now that Barack Obama is our President there'll be no way of preventing teachers from gloating over him in the classroom.

I have no doubt that right now teachers across the country are already hanging pictures of our new leader on classroom walls and teaching their students about the wonderful new age that we are all about to enter.

My German teacher, when I was in high school, was a Czech who lived in the Sudetenland. After that callow pacifist, Chamberlain, handed the Sudetenland to Hitler, Dr. Messerod had to go with the "new" curriculum. A deep and prideful man, the final straw was the obligatory picture of the new leader. He turned it around to face the wall, was denounced and fired. Through the grace of G*d he escaped and made his way to Long Island.

101 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:23:00pm

re: #87 Sean

There is no more racism, Charles. It ended Tuesday night.

don't tell that to sharpton and jackson.
you have just deleted their livelihood,

102 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:23:01pm

re: #86 nyc redneck

folke ryden is a fcking imbecile. these kids are 11 yrs. old, they don't need to be fired up abt. politics thru ridicule and abuse from this illiterate beast w/ her own selfish agenda.

The only way..and i do mean the only way his explanation can be believed is this..
These kids were special gifted kids auditing a college political science class.
otherwise..she was out-of-bounds and needs to be disciplined.

103 outsidephilly  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:23:10pm

re: #97 Charles

I also have one or two Spencer-related emails that are basically nothing but profanities.

so, he has a vocabulary deficit?

104 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:23:20pm

re: #80 Charles

Wackjobs don't live in reality. Facts are another universe entirely.

105 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:23:21pm

re: #73 nightlight

Apparently Folke Ryden does not have a strong command of the English language. Nuanced remarks can be stronger and more telling than just blurting out how you feel. The teacher clearly expressed without humor or satire that supporting McCain was evil or wrong.

106 logboy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:23:59pm

re: #97 Charles

I also have one or two Spencer-related emails that are basically nothing but profanities.

What is it about that guy? Did an LGFer run over the guys dog or something?

107 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:24:16pm

re: #103 outsidephilly

so, he has a vocabulary deficit?

Not Spencer, his supporters.

108 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:24:42pm

re: #80 Charles

Clearly you saw young black children and images of the Obama children popped in your head.

/RACIST!
//You get the best mail!

109 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:24:52pm

re: #77 Ward Cleaver

Students bullying other students = not okay.

Teachers bullying students = okay.

I've posted before about what happened to my oldest son. He didn't jump into the anti-Bush rhetoric and anti-death penalty/ anti-2nd amendment crap the teachers wanted and was "rewarded" by being made Larry Craig in the mock Senate they did. The bullies in the class were merciless and I thought we were going to have to pull him from school. I think the administration was also afraid of that (and the lawsuit the school district would have faced)-by the time I sent him back to school after a day off, he had been switched to another Senator and narry a peep was allowed about it in class. He did have some friends who avoided him afterwards.

110 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:25:18pm

The teacher was reckless and she absolutely did bully that young girl who had a Dad in the military. Disgusting.

111 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:25:31pm

re: #100 tommygum

My German teacher, when I was in high school, was a Czech who lived in the Sudetenland. After that callow pacifist, Chamberlain, handed the Sudetenland to Hitler, Dr. Messerod had to go with the "new" curriculum. A deep and prideful man, the final straw was the obligatory picture of the new leader. He turned it around to face the wall, was denounced and fired. Through the grace of G*d he escaped and made his way to Long Island.

That's next. Oh so very next.

It's happening again folks.

112 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:25:48pm

re: #97 Charles

Unclean and inarticulate?

113 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:26:43pm

re: #103 outsidephilly

so, he has a vocabulary deficit?

No, you misunderstood - "Spencer-related" does not mean "from Spencer." They're from his fans.

114 opnion  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:26:53pm

re: #92 J.S.

A poster upthread noted that there are no teacher's unions in North Carolina...(?)


I can't imagine that the schools are not unionized in NC., but maybe.
If that is the case her dismissal becomes geometrically easier.

115 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:27:20pm

re: #109 livefreeor die

He did have some friends who avoided him afterwards.

Then they weren't friends worth having.

116 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:27:24pm

re: #92 J.S.

A poster upthread noted that there are no teacher's unions in North Carolina...(?)

Pack up the car, kids. We're moving!

117 jaunte  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:27:25pm

re: #97 Charles

I suppose when you're standing in the way of the only people who are "truly fighting jihad," it's bound to arouse some resentment.
///

118 outsidephilly  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:27:42pm

re: #113 Charles

No, you misunderstood - "Spencer-related" does not mean "from Spencer." They're from his fans.

oh, okay, got it.

119 J.S.  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:27:43pm

re: #86 nyc redneck

hmmm...I suspect that the Swede is (probably) not a fluent speaker of English...(if you're not born/raised/fluent in a foreign language, you'll miss all sorts of things going on -- especially the emotional content of words...which every native speaker immediately picks up on...all the little nuances of speech, native people hear/understand -- but it'll fly right over the head of a foreign, non-native speaker...)

120 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:28:02pm

re: #115 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Then they weren't friends worth having.

That's what I told him. The whole incident still breaks my heart.

121 Teacake!  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:29:31pm

Aside of in how many ways this teacher was inaccurate - that she told the little girl that her daddy would be at war for 100 years, that was abusive child cruelty.

122 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:29:40pm

re: #92 J.S.

The NEA is all over NC. The union is just not as publicly visible in the states like NC where teachers strikes are generally forbidden by law.
I have run across people here in VA who think we don't have unions "like those big Yankee cities do" just because we don't have strikes.
You CAN opt out of the union in VA, if you're willing to go through a lot of bureaucratic nonsense. Very few teachers do, however, because it is the kiss of death. You can be fired on a whim and the union will cheer and support your elimination.

123 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:29:43pm

Be nice to see a follow up. He said it would be investigated.

Did anyone else have trouble hearing it?

124 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:29:51pm

re: #46 Sean

Racism is over. Sorry.

To put this in the words that today's generation will understand, "Racism is soooo yesterday."

125 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:30:06pm

re: #106 logboy

The military is the only reason this man's town/county
are on the map. I just imagine some general might be
putting a little pressure on him.

126 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:30:23pm

re: #90 Catttt

The Nipple Song. :D

LOL! Click on that folks, it's funny as hell.

127 Steve Rogers  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:30:26pm

Democrats have been winning elections they should have lost for decades due their controlling the "education" of generations of children via teachers, teacher's unions and college professors.

I'm not saying it was a conspiracy on their part. It wasn't. But, generally speaking, liberals become teachers and professors. And as a result of that fact, even those that don't consciously try to be biased are going to impart, perhaps on a subconscious level, their ideas and belief system on the most impressionable.

Those of us who want to return to a society that values individual liberty, personal responsibility and a smaller limited government will have a difficult - if not impossible - task ahead of us unless we somehow reach the children that are being brainwashed.

128 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:30:54pm

re: #125 Mike in Georgia

The military is the only reason this man's town/county
are on the map. I just imagine some general might be
putting a little pressure on him.


Not to mention e-mails galore courtesy of the blogosphere.

129 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:31:06pm

I don't even allow politics to be discussed in my classroom.
It has nothing to do with my curriculum, and I don't want tempers to flare.

130 opnion  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:31:24pm

I really think that this teacher is covered no matter what.
Ok, so maybe she could lose her teaching job, but I bet then that Barry would tap her for Secretary of Education

131 Teacake!  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:31:32pm

When I was in jr.high in L.A. I had a science teacher who told us Jewish babies are born with tails and horns, that are removed immediately. I asked my mom about that. Guess a lot of kids asked - the teacher was fired very quietly.

132 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:31:46pm

OT - Fox is saying that Oprah is seeking Palin interview. Palin should either tear her a new one or simply say eff-off.

133 Nuclear Ninja  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:31:52pm

re: #28 Charles

Another Robert Spencer fan sends a love note; he got here by clicking a link at the Discovery Institute's Russia Blog. Subject: "IHT proves LGF was wrong"

With a link to this article:

[Link: www.iht.com...]

(If you Google "OCSE bias" you'll find that their reports are generally not well respected.)

Speaking of OCSE, I had not heard of them until yesterday as I was looking up the latest news on Estonia...don't ask...and apparently this group has also recommended that Russians have a "role" in protecting Russian speaking minorities in Latvia and Estonia who are being oppressed because they cannot run for elected office due to their non-citizen status, Seriously. And to top it off, today I watched Medeved's speech to the Russian Parliament and it was frightening. Russia has serious ambitions.

134 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:32:07pm

re: #132 Abbey

OT - Fox is saying that Oprah is seeking Palin interview. Palin should either tear her a new one or simply say eff-off.

Can she do both?

135 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:32:11pm

re: #121 Teacake!

Aside of in how many ways this teacher was inaccurate - that she told the little girl that her daddy would be at war for 100 years, that was abusive child cruelty.

It would have been funny as hell if the kid would have said "So you think my dad will live to be 136 years old and still able to serve in the military?"

I don't know about others, but obama is making race things worse imo.

136 logboy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:32:33pm

re: #132 Abbey

OT - Fox is saying that Oprah is seeking Palin interview. Palin should either tear her a new one or simply say eff-off.

I think an interview with Oprah might do her some good. Any thoughts?

137 Daisy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:33:01pm

re: #26 arethusa

I heard that the child berated was the child of a serviceman. Which makes me question the teacher's behavior even further than I already was.

She is the child of a serviceman in Iraq. This inarticulate goon threatened that McCain would keep her father in Iraq for 100 years. All the children were wary of this bully, but the child she most directly attacked (in that moment of that day) was fighting back tears.

138 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:33:16pm

re: #107 astronmr20

Not Spencer, his supporters.

One thing I noticed long ago about his blog was that it was poorly policed for trolls, mobys and other hooligans. Many of his supporters (& former-supporters) are reasonable people who, if they realize who VB is, are quite dismayed and feel betrayed by R. Spencer's new path. I hope he realizes his error soon.

139 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:33:24pm

re: #136 logboy

I think an interview with Oprah might do her some good. Any thoughts?

She should say, "Thanks, in a couple of years." so Oprah's stuck and then ignore her for the next two years. Oprah will just bring up bad stuff.

140 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:33:43pm

It's time for conservatives, classical liberals and libertarians to begin our own "long march" through the institutions.

141 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:33:53pm

re: #42 Charles

The whole Creationism debate aside (I actually believe that God set forth things about 15 billion years ago and has let the dice roll ever since), I am willing to give Gov. Jindal the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

142 Daisy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:33:55pm

re: #116 livefreeor die

Pack up the car, kids. We're moving!

Oh boy, can I relate!

143 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:33:57pm

re: #110 rightymouse

The teacher was reckless and she absolutely did bully that young girl who had a Dad in the military. Disgusting.

Just got in on the thread, but this, I think. is only the beginning.

144 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:01pm

re: #102 HoosierHoops

The only way..and i do mean the only way his explanation can be believed is this..
These kids were special gifted kids auditing a college political science class.
otherwise..she was out-of-bounds and needs to be disciplined.

i find it a travesty that today children are subjected to "teachers" like this person.
and so much money is going to the school systems. prop taxes are sky high to educate our kids. it seems that purpose is not a priority anymore.

145 Piglet-U93  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:01pm

re: #46 Sean

Racism is over. Sorry.

Sorry but I believe it has just reversed polarity in the last few decades.

146 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:08pm

re: #132 Abbey

I think Palin should tell her "some other time when my schedule is open." Oprah said a pre-election interview didn't fit into the Oprah Show schedule, didn't she?

147 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:19pm

The statement is all well and good. But, let’s wait to see what actual punishment this bully gets.

The teacher’s union is very strong. If the bully is in the union I am doubtful much will happen.

148 Miss Trixie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:27pm

re: #129 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't even allow politics to be discussed in my classroom.
It has nothing to do with my curriculum, and I don't want tempers to flare.

Pardon me, goddess, for going OT but your angel avatar is exactly the statue that I have been looking for to grace my garden. She's loverly and I've had no luck finding her up here.

149 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:38pm

re: #80 Charles

Another Spencer fan accuses me of "racism," for referring to that video of kids singing about Barack Obama -- he says I really was talking about Obama's daughters.

Goes on in this vein for a while, before telling me that I'm stupid (as well as a racist) and Spencer is a genius.

I'd hate to have to wade through your email, between the moonbats and fascist lunatics. Hang in there, Charles.

150 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:47pm

re: #136 logboy

I think an interview with Oprah might do her some good. Any thoughts?

Hell no.
Tell that bitch to fuck off.
Why give her the ratings?
I can't stand oprah.
I am tired of hearing about how historic it is that a black man got elected president when we have billionaires like her, will smith, michael steele, jesse jackson etc etc.
All successful black people.

And another thing.
He should not be referred to as African American.
He is the president of the UNITED STATES and is an AMERICAN.

151 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:53pm

re: #131 Teacake!

Yikes! In junior high in the 80's, I was only taught how horrible Reagan was.

152 outsidephilly  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:34:55pm

BBL . . . , heading to the Healthplex for a swim

153 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:35:11pm

re: #132 Abbey

OT - Fox is saying that Oprah is seeking Palin interview. Palin should either tear her a new one or simply say eff-off.

Palin should send her a fresh moose head in response.

154 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:35:33pm

re: #136 logboy

I think an interview with Oprah might do her some good. Any thoughts?

Forget that. She has a day job as the Guv, and a family. Oprah can wait.

155 Daisy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:35:38pm

re: #134 livefreeor die

Can she do both?

Oh, I think she's capable. :)

156 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:35:39pm

re: #129 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't even allow politics to be discussed in my classroom.
It has nothing to do with my curriculum, and I don't want tempers to flare.

You don't want any angry first graders, huh? : )
/

157 Intifan  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:35:44pm

re: #135 Typicalwhitey

It would have been funny as hell if the kid would have said "So you think my dad will live to be 136 years old and still able to serve in the military?"

I don't know about others, but obama is making race things worse imo.

It really is.

158 J.S.  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:35:49pm

re: #122 wolfie

I see. As someone else noted, I guess it would be a pretty odd situtation not to have a teacher's union...

159 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:35:58pm

re: #141 RightLogic

The whole Creationism debate aside (I actually believe that God set forth things about 15 billion years ago and has let the dice roll ever since), I am willing to give Gov. Jindal the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

If he would just take Sarah Palin's approach, and not push it, I'd be behind him 100 percent.

160 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:05pm

re: #129 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't even allow politics to be discussed in my classroom.
It has nothing to do with my curriculum, and I don't want tempers to flare.

The problem is that while our side feels uneasy about bringing political bias into classroom, the other side does not.

That's why they're winning.

161 Piglet-U93  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:16pm

re: #116 livefreeor die

Pack up the car, kids. We're moving!

Be careful about that. Some of the communities can tell you which school your child has to attend. As a friend of mine there has lamented.

162 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:21pm

re: #153 RightLogic

Palin should send her a fresh moose head in response.

With a note saying,"Sorry I like to spend my free time right now with my husband and kids. What do you do during your free time, Oprah?"

Sorry, pregnancy hormones make me extra-bitchy on these things.

163 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:29pm

re: #136 logboy

I think an interview with Oprah might do her some good. Any thoughts?

The only thing with a stronger gravitational pull than Oprah is her ego.

164 gregg  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:32pm

re: #136 logboy

I think an interview with Oprah might do her some good. Any thoughts?

Her ratings have been down, so I suspect part of it is an attempt to win back some of her previous viewers.

165 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:46pm

Thanks for finding and posting this!

166 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:49pm

re: #134 livefreeor die

Cage Match!
Oprah diet number 3,987,939.
heh, that is surpassing the number of Islamic Holy Sites!

/sucks gut in

167 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:36:50pm

re: #138 David IV of Georgia

One thing I noticed long ago about his blog was that it was poorly policed for trolls, mobys and other hooligans. Many of his supporters (& former-supporters) are reasonable people who, if they realize who VB is, are quite dismayed and feel betrayed by R. Spencer's new path. I hope he realizes his error soon.

Indeed... I feel the same way. As Charles pointed out, he's sort of "had his chance," though. Hoping this new round of proof about VB will be enough for him to realize his errors.

168 Shug  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:37:48pm

Oprah Ummah, Ummah, Oprah

169 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:37:55pm

re: #141 RightLogic

The whole Creationism debate aside (I actually believe that God set forth things about 15 billion years ago and has let the dice roll ever since), I am willing to give Gov. Jindal the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

I wrote this a couple of days ago, but I'll repeat it; if Jindal were a creationist, but never tried to push it into schools, it wouldn't be a major problem. But he's the only governor of a major state who is more than just a believer -- he's an activist, doing the bidding of the Discovery Institute. He signed a stealth creationist bill promoted by the DI into law, that will allow them to sneak their agenda into Louisiana schools.

And then of course, there's that little "exorcism cures cancer" problem. If the GOP picks him as a rising star, they're cutting their own throats.

170 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:38:01pm

re: #136 logboy

I think an interview with Oprah might do her some good. Any thoughts?

If I were Sarah, I'd politely decline and leave it at that.

171 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:38:22pm

re: #156 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You don't want any angry first graders, huh? : )
/

OMG, I could NEVER teach elementary school! Give them to me when they're teenagers who can appreciate sarcasm irony.

172 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:38:28pm

re: #159 Ward Cleaver

If he would just take Sarah Palin's approach, and not push it, I'd be behind him 100 percent.

I agree and I must admit that I haven't been following him that closely but I plan on it as he has been mentioned as a 2012 contender. We need another Reagan (God bless his soul) not some Evangelical preacher.

173 logboy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:38:41pm

re: #141 RightLogic

The whole Creationism debate aside (I actually believe that God set forth things about 15 billion years ago and has let the dice roll ever since), I am willing to give Gov. Jindal the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

You're wrong. The one went back in time and created earth and all the beings. Now he's president so he can punish us for our sins.

174 mitthrawnurdo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:38:48pm

re: #133 Nuclear Ninja

Wait, I thought Putin might be making a comeback to the top spot?

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

/Who thinks President Medvedev was ever in charge?

175 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:38:58pm

How about Tancredo in '12

176 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:39:32pm

re: #119 J.S.

hmmm...I suspect that the Swede is (probably) not a fluent speaker of English...(if you're not born/raised/fluent in a foreign language, you'll miss all sorts of things going on -- especially the emotional content of words...which every native speaker immediately picks up on...all the little nuances of speech, native people hear/understand -- but it'll fly right over the head of a foreign, non-native speaker...)

i took that into consideration. but i think the film maker is beyond foolish to defend this abusive woman. and certainly has some responsibility for being familiar w/ the actual tone and implication of his work and what it really says.

177 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:39:36pm

re: #160 Ringo the Gringo

The problem is that while our side feels uneasy about bringing political bias into classroom, the other side does not.

That's why they're winning.

I agree, but I don't think politics (at least mine), like religion, has any place in the classroom unless its germane to the curriculum.

178 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:40:19pm

re: #175 livefreeor die

How about Tancredo in '12

He could never win, plus he's a bit of a nut.

We need fresh blood and fresh faces.

179 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:40:40pm

It would really be fun to watch a teachers union try to take
on the military in that county.

180 Intrepid  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:40:42pm

re: #88 Sharmuta

Wow! I don't recall anyone mentioning the Obama girls.

None of us here have in any way posted anything remotely insulting about the Obamas' children. If anything we've been ultra respectful of Malia and Sasha and their rights to privacy.

Unlike the unhinged vitriol that came from the left about Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig Palin.

Track - drug addicted delinquent (with no evidence)
Bristol - egads, where to begin...
Willow - once Bristol's pregnancy was announced, the 2nd choice of moonbats for candidate as Trig's mother
Piper - unsanitary in her convention "spit-do" on Trig
Trig - Erica Jong (wasn't it?) speculated that Trig would wish he'd have been aborted

It's apparent that the IQ's of the adherents to Mr Spencer's POV have dropped precipitously since he and Charles parted ways.

181 opnion  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:41:03pm

re: #153 RightLogic

Palin should send her a fresh moose head in response.


Maybe Palin should go on & make it like the Springer Show.
First initiate a slap fight with Oprah With all of the gals in the audience chanting "Oprah, Oprah"
Then they go after each other with chairs & burly Security guys rush to break it up.
Sarah & Oprah separated scream obscenities at each other. I would stay home from work to see it.

182 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:41:03pm

re: #150 Typicalwhitey

Hell no.
Tell that bitch to fuck off.
Why give her the ratings?
I can't stand oprah.
I am tired of hearing about how historic it is that a black man got elected president when we have billionaires like her, will smith, michael steele, jesse jackson etc etc.
All successful black people.

And another thing.
He should not be referred to as African American.
He is the president of the UNITED STATES and is an AMERICAN.

Nope. You're wrong. He's a "citizen of the world".

183 mitthrawnurdo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:41:25pm

re: #177 goddessoftheclassroom

You mean that there are teachers out there that don't berate students and compare their support of conservatism to Nazism?

/Why couldn't I have gone to that HS?

184 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:41:39pm

re: #175 livefreeor die

How about Tancredo in '12

Newt.

185 eon  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:41:55pm

re: #105 David IV of Georgia

Apparently Folke Ryden does not have a strong command of the English language. Nuanced remarks can be stronger and more telling than just blurting out how you feel. The teacher clearly expressed without humor or satire that supporting McCain was evil or wrong.

Also, being from "secular" Europe, it probably hasn't occurred to him that there are probably quite a few parents of those kids in that classroom who don't appreciate the teacher (an authority figure) taking the Lord's and the Son's names in vain in the classroom.

If it happened here in South Central OH (which a college professor of mine referred to as "the buckle on the Bible Belt"), the school board would already be getting demands from the local PTA for the teacher to be at least reprimanded, more likely suspended without pay, and preferably fired outright just for that, regardless of the context it was done in.

And yes, those parents are careful not to do it themselves in front of the kids or otherwise.

/we're all rednecks around these parts, ya know- ask any Columbusite, "transplanted" or otherwise ;-)

cheers

eon

186 livefreeor die  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:41:59pm

Time to make dinner. I'm so glad LGF is back up to speed. This place has been so therapeutic this week!

187 Miss Trixie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:41:59pm

re: #162 livefreeor die

With a note saying,"Sorry I like to spend my free time right now with my husband and kids. What do you do during your free time, Oprah?"

Sorry, pregnancy hormones make me extra-bitchy on these things.

Here, luv. This will make everything much better. :D

188 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:42:03pm

re: #143 Soona'

Just got in on the thread, but this, I think. is only the beginning.


When are the teachers going to be told to teach children to denounce their parents for 'wrongful' thinking?

I see it coming like a freight train.

189 infidel4ever  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:42:26pm

A Dutch newspaper (Telegraaf) today repeated the "Palin does not know Africa is a continent" line and also wrote that "she opened the door to some members of the McCain team half naked, clad only in a towel".

Is McCain planning to contradict this rubbish at some stage or is he too busy crying in his pillow because he lost? I thought he was such a gentleman? Grrrrrrrrr!

190 mitthrawnurdo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:42:38pm

re: #182 Soona'

Soon to be the "President of the World".

/We'll see how long Obamaism lasts throughout the world. I'll give it 2 months after January 20th, tops.

191 DistantThunder  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:42:57pm

re: #69 3 wood

This is another good reason to home school if you can.

We have home schooled all of our children. My oldest graduated cum laude, my second is halfway through to her degree, my youngest started college at 16.

Really? I am homeschooling my 12 year old son- what did you find worked best?

192 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:43:16pm

re: #73 nightlight

None so blind.

She wasn't using 'humor' but she was trying to draw the kids out. Into to admitting they supported McCain. (The Obama supporters didn't need reassurance that they wouldn't get into trouble.) Why? She had to reassure them more than once that it was okay to say so. And looking at them, one could see those kids were afraid to speak up about McCain in front of her.

They needed the reassurance because clearly they ALREADY knew the teacher's leanings.

So we know this wasn't the first time she had infused her politics into the room.

Imagine how she teaches about the history of the US, or current events.

193 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:43:27pm

re: #180 Intrepid

Indeed- the only thing I've seen here at LGF about the Obama girls is how how cute they are.

194 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:43:30pm

re: #190 mitthrawnurdo

Soon to be the "President of the World".

/We'll see how long Obamaism lasts throughout the world. I'll give it 2 months after January 20th, tops.

Oh I pray you are right. I doubt it, though.

195 mitthrawnurdo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:43:44pm

re: #189 infidel4ever

I heard that line "Palin doesn't know Africa is a Contintent" today. grrr....

196 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:43:46pm

re: #183 mitthrawnurdo

You mean that there are teachers out there that don't berate students and compare their support of conservatism to Nazism?

/Why couldn't I have gone to that HS?

Worse still, whenever my students say anything the leat but moonbattish or wingnuttish, I demand a citation and the source.

197 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:43:46pm

re: #184 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Newt.

He's going to be head of the RNC- with any luck.

198 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:43:51pm

re: #193 Sharmuta

Indeed- the only thing I've seen here at LGF about the Obama girls is how how cute they are.

Which, by the way, they certainly are.

199 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:44:10pm

re: #169 Charles

I wrote this a couple of days ago, but I'll repeat it; if Jindal were a creationist, but never tried to push it into schools, it wouldn't be a major problem. But he's the only governor of a major state who is more than just a believer -- he's an activist, doing the bidding of the Discovery Institute. He signed a stealth creationist bill promoted by the DI into law that will allow them to sneak their agenda into Louisiana schools.

And then of course, there's that little "exorcism cures cancer" problem. If the GOP picks him as a rising star, they're cutting their own throats.

So noted and thanks Charles. I have heard his name bantered about as a 2012 contender. Conservatives and the GOP don't need a "cult-of-personality" that blinds people to a person's political flaws (like what just occurred this past Tuesday). I want someone who will draw on not only the 40% of conservatives in this country but also the 20% of moderates (the majority of whom swung left this time around).

200 J.S.  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:44:33pm

re: #176 nyc redneck

Yes. It could also be that IF the Swede had recognized the teacher as "abusive", then what was he doing filming it? did he want to get her into trouble? (in other words, he's defending the teacher because he made her teaching-style public, and now he wants to deflect the heat. and the easiest way to do that is exclaim: "why, she's not being abusive!").

201 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:44:45pm

re: #133 Nuclear Ninja

I didn't bother looking up the OCSE to see who they are—I already know the basic facts of the story. Any cause from a tiny social group to a major country or even the UN can find someone who will print their version of a story. And if a credible sounding source can't be found to support the cause, it is very easy to create a impressive sounding organization whose only purpose is to make another organization look good. Happens all the time. When a story or "fact" is supported by some source, it is often important to research who published the source material in the first place.

202 geepers  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:44:49pm

infidel4ever says:

Is McCain planning to contradict this rubbish at some stage or is he too busy crying in his pillow because he lost?

Yeah, that's John McCain, such a wuss.

203 Catttt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:44:50pm

New version:

Question Othority

204 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:44:53pm

re: #127 Steve Rogers

In CA the teachers union has a lock on the state.

And, huge amounts of money to throw around via CALPERS which the teachers union is invested in.

205 DistantThunder  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:44:56pm

re: #192 Silhouette

None so blind.

She wasn't using 'humor' but she was trying to draw the kids out. Into to admitting they supported McCain. (The Obama supporters didn't need reassurance that they wouldn't get into trouble.) Why? She had to reassure them more than once that it was okay to say so. And looking at them, one could see those kids were afraid to speak up about McCain in front of her.

They needed the reassurance because clearly they ALREADY knew the teacher's leanings.

So we know this wasn't the first time she had infused her politics into the room.

Imagine how she teaches about the history of the US, or current events.

And this was WITH people watching her and our behavior is usually much improved when we know people are watching - what was the horror show like when no adult was watching her?

206 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:45:07pm

re: #175 livefreeor die

How about Tancredo in '12

Nope, Duncan Hunter instead. Pro-secure borders, without the loose cannon mouth.

207 iceman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:45:10pm

as a former public school teacher, I predict that she will be disciplined not fired.

208 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:45:28pm

re: #200 J.S.

Yes. It could also be that IF the Swede had recognized the teacher as "abusive", then what was he doing filming it? did he want to get her into trouble? (in other words, he's defending the teacher because he made her teaching-style public, and now he wants to deflect the heat. and the easiest way to do that is exclaim: "why, she's not being abusive!").

could be that too. interesting.

209 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:45:30pm

re: #173 logboy

You're wrong. The oneOne went back in time and created earth and all the beings. Now he's president so he can punish us for our sins.

A slight correction.

210 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:45:37pm

Well, money time! Of course gas and heating oil prices are going to jump.

Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families:Barack Obama and Joe Biden will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills. This relief would be a down payment on the Obama-Biden long-term plan to provide middle-class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief.

211 ugetwhatuputout  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:46:02pm

When the story first broke and the school was incorrectly identified as being in Asheville, NC, I shot off an email to the mayor. I was pleased at the urgency of the response.

Thank you for your correspondence regarding the YouTube Video referenced in your e-mail. I appreciate your concerns and take them very seriously. Please be reassured of my commitment to the education of our children.

The Asheville City Council is responsible for appointing members to the Asheville City School Board, and the board and its administration is responsible for operating the school system. Since this issue came to my attention, I have been in close communication with City Schools Superintendent Allen Johnson. Superintendent Johnson is working to provide accurate information to the public about this incident, and I trust that he is responding the situation with diligence and professionalism.

According to Mr. Johnson, the woman pictured in the video is no longer employed by Asheville City Schools. For additional information regarding the video, Superintendent Johnson is posting information on the Asheville City Schools’ website at [Link: www.asheville.k12.nc.us...]

In addition, Superintendent Johnson has been in contact with YouTube regarding changing the title of the video.

Asheville City Schools has been very responsive to e-mails and phone calls on this matter and will continue to answer any additional questions you might have. I am confident that they will review this issue thoroughly and will take any necessary steps to ensure our children are educated in open, inclusive and unbiased environment.

All my best,

Terry M. Bellamy

Mayor

212 NoSubmission  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:46:16pm

re: #132 Abbey

OT - Fox is saying that Oprah is seeking Palin interview. Palin should either tear her a new one or simply say eff-off.


Hah! Oprah can go jump in a lake. Palin towers over that wildebeest.

213 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:46:22pm

Let's focus on getting Congress back before we start bantering names about for 2012.

214 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:46:28pm

re: #170 Ward Cleaver

I kind of agree. However, I think she needs exposure to correct all these McCain a**wipes that are just looking to work another campaign. I mean seriously, Palin carried McCain from a complete blow out.

I'd be careful though. If Barry continues along this path, Sarah will be a shoe - in if she plays her cards right, i.e. stay on the stage.

Larry King also interested. Big NO.

215 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:47:01pm

re: #188 rightymouse

When are the teachers going to be told to teach children to denounce their parents for 'wrongful' thinking?

I see it coming like a freight train.

It seems to me that this is already happening somewhere in regards to parental shortcomings on global warming.

216 wiffersnapper  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:47:01pm

Nothing's gonna happen here.

217 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:47:08pm

re: #190 mitthrawnurdo

Soon to be the "President of the World".

/We'll see how long Obamaism lasts throughout the world. I'll give it 2 months after January 20th, tops.

We should start an over/under on the number of stupid or classless things he'll say in his inauguration speech.

218 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:47:13pm

re: #175 livefreeor die

All border control...Nothing else.

219 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:47:20pm

Most of the seniors should love this one!

Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less than $50,000: Barack Obama will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This proposal will eliminate income taxes for 7 million seniors and provide these seniors with an average savings of $1,400 each year. Under the Obama-Biden plan, 27 million American seniors will also not need to file an income tax return.
220 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:47:23pm

Sarah should agree to 0prah- but make her haul her ass to Alaska for it.

221 mitthrawnurdo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:48:00pm

re: #210 Outrider

Where the hell is the "excessive oil company profits" with oil prices falling and demand dropping?

/Or will this be retroactive?

222 Piglet-U93  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:48:02pm

re: #188 rightymouse

When are the teachers going to be told to teach children to denounce their parents for 'wrongful' thinking?

I see it coming like a freight train.

The NC teacher berating those children cound not have been clearer. You could see it in the childrens faces as their parents we basically painted as a very very dark evil mosaic.

223 Parker in US  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:48:08pm

Saw the video of the teacher in the classroom this morning and I was pissed! I am glad that her boss is on the case, this teacher should be terminated immediately. I worry everyday about what kind of propaganda my son is being exposed to in school and I make it point to ask him about all time as I think we all should. The only way this indoctrination is going to stop is for parents and the media to get involved.

224 tokyobk  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:48:25pm

While I had some really, really good teachers in the Philly public school system, I also had some really bad ones. There is def a scary ideoplogical element to this, but she reminded me more of the teacher I had in fifth grade who used to sip her "cough medicine" from a paper bag at her desk among other things including verbal and physical abuse.

225 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:48:46pm

re: #214 Abbey

I kind of agree. However, I think she needs exposure to correct all these McCain a**wipes that are just looking to work another campaign. I mean seriously, Palin carried McCain from a complete blow out.

I'd be careful though. If Barry continues along this path, Sarah will be a shoe - in if she plays her cards right, i.e. stay on the stage.

Larry King also interested. Big NO.

Sarah could convert some of the dunderheads that listen to Oprah. That would be a good thing.

226 mitthrawnurdo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:49:07pm

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

He'd be wise not to scratch his face during the speech.

227 infidel4ever  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:49:17pm

re: #195 mitthrawnurdo

And how could anybody Not know that? Good grief, in which grade do they teach continents in the US? Seconed? Third?

228 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:49:43pm

re: #220 Sharmuta

Sarah should agree to 0prah- but make her haul her ass to Alaska for it.

Amen. Make Oprah go to Wasilla. In January.

229 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:49:43pm

re: #22 MandyManners

I was really struck by his saying that the school district has 15,000 military families in it.


I always wanted to live next to Camp LeJeune. I feel like Lydia "ohhhhh, a whole platoon"

230 eon  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:49:55pm

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

We should start an over/under on the number of stupid or classless things he'll say in his inauguration speech.

We could do one on the number of times in his first Hundred Days he does something he "swore" he wouldn't do at all, too.

/in his case, look for them to be rather like Napoleon's, hence the capitalization

cheers

eon

231 logboy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:50:18pm

re: #209 RightLogic

A slight correction.

Typing with only three fingers makes me lazy with the caps. I still prefer BOzo over "The One".

232 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:50:37pm

re: #212 NoSubmission

Hah! Oprah can go jump in a lake. Palin towers over that wildebeest.


what is in it for sarah. that is the only question?
how can she benefit at this point?

my first instinct is for sarah to snub okra.

233 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:50:44pm

Newt for RNC Chair!

Watch the video- he makes a great point about lack of training in our ranks.

234 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:50:53pm

re: #220 Sharmuta

Sarah should agree to 0prah- but make her haul her ass to Alaska for it.

Alaska isn't big enough for Oprah's ass.

235 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:50:54pm

re: #226 mitthrawnurdo

He'd be wise not to scratch his face during the speech.

He can't help himself. It's like he's in ninth eighth grade.

/punk

236 mitthrawnurdo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:51:02pm

re: #227 infidel4ever

At least I think Gov. Palin knows there are 50 states.

237 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:51:10pm

re: #212 NoSubmission

TIDAL WAVE!

/Bad week. Normally better:)

238 warnergt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:51:44pm

Hat Tip AP!? I had that posted in the comments on this site 8 minutes before he posted it.
Get your news first at LGF!

239 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:52:09pm

re: #221 mitthrawnurdo

Where the hell is the "excessive oil company profits" with oil prices falling and demand dropping?

/Or will this be retroactive?

You got me. Go that damn web site. That whole site.... page after page... after page is some damn scary stuff!

240 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:52:10pm

re: #195 mitthrawnurdo

I heard that line "Palin doesn't know Africa is a Contintent" today. grrr....

That's BS.

241 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:52:24pm

re: #220 Sharmuta

Deadliest catch?

/hmmm...crab legs

242 maredneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:52:39pm

Rove and Cheney picking out a cell at Gitmo for her now.
/

243 eon  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:52:40pm

re: #231 logboy

Typing with only three fingers makes me lazy with the caps. I still prefer BOzo over "The One".

I shall refer to him as The Exalted One from now on. Just as a matter of respect.

/following the Han custom noted in Armageddon 2419 A.D. by Philip Francis Nowlan, written in 1921- the original source for Buck Rogers

cheers

eon

244 3 wood  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:53:04pm

re: #189 infidel4ever

Is McCain planning to contradict this rubbish at some stage or is he too busy crying in his pillow because he lost? I thought he was such a gentleman? Grrrrrrrrr!

McCain is too busy mending fences with his friends on the left

245 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:53:13pm

re: #132 Abbey

OT - Fox is saying that Oprah is seeking Palin interview. Palin should either tear her a new one or simply say eff-off.

How bout Sarah send her information on the NRA?

246 Steve Rogers  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:53:28pm

re: #204 Ledger1

In CA the teachers union has a lock on the state.

And, huge amounts of money to throw around via CALPERS which the teachers union is invested in.

California is probably long gone. Let them collapse in on themselves so they can start fresh and hopefully abandon all the wacky people and ideas that make up that state. For example, there is probably no other state that has more energy alternatives (wind, solar, geothermal, etc.), that the looney left says will magically get us off oil, and yet each summer, year in and year out, they run out of power with their rolling blackouts. So perhaps we should not focus on them for the moment. They may have to learn the hard way the way the Soviet Union did.

But there must be a way in the other 49 states (or 56 if your Obama) to counter the looney left stranglehold on the "education" of children. I know people will say, "Home Schooling," and that's just fine. But there is no way home schooling will ever make a dent in the massive government-education near-monopoly in this nation. There has to be a way.

247 Piglet-U93  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:53:29pm

re: #234 RightLogic

Alaska isn't big enough for Oprah's ass.

Ow, that is a disgusting image. I have to go wash my mind. brb.

248 infidel4ever  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:53:33pm

re: #202 geepers

infidel4ever says:


Yeah, that's John McCain, such a wuss.

I did not say he was a wuss. I think he is behaving less than gentleman-like to leave his running mate in the line of fire without at least trying to put paid to some of the rumors/slander. Very disappointing, IMHO.

249 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:53:49pm

re: #241 Abbey

Deadliest catch?

/hmmm...crab legs

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I'd pay to see a big wave knock Oprah's ass flat on the deck.

250 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:54:10pm

re: #233 Sharmuta

Newt for RNC Chair!

Watch the video- he makes a great point about lack of training in our ranks.

He was for the global warming nonsense, for cripe's sake. Newt has sipped some kool-aid along the way.

I'm thinking more of someone Fred Thompson for RNC chair, except he's got his own PAC right now.

251 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:54:13pm

re: #211 ugetwhatuputout

Justice; what a concept.

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

252 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:54:51pm

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

We should start an over/under on the number of stupid or classless things he'll say in his inauguration speech.

Obama: Er..uh...mm..I don't really like this country but this president stuff is turning out to be a cool gig.

253 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:54:56pm

re: #248 infidel4ever

I did not say he was a wuss. I think he is behaving less than gentleman-like to leave his running mate in the line of fire without at least trying to put paid to some of the rumors/slander. Very disappointing, IMHO.

I agree that he should come out and slap down all those dissing her now.

254 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:54:58pm

re: #16 MandyManners

Does the bully have tenure? What will the NCEA do?

That depends on what the investigation finds. If there is a finding of actual abuse - which doesn't seem at all unlikely - she could be history very quickly and the teacher's union won't waste a minute of their time on it. Child abuse. In a school. By a teacher. Bad Juju all 'round from their perspective, and they'll help shove her out the door, tenure or no. There are usually specific exceptions to upholding tenure when the act is grievous enough.

Failing that, if they can't break her tenure she'll probably be assigned to some job within the district that doesn't involve contact with children in any way. I used to work for a large school district in their AV department, which served ten schools and was in it's own building. We wound up with a handful of teachers so incompetent they could barely find their way into work in the mornings, and they stuck them with us because they couldn't fire them, and they figured our department was the place where they would do the least harm. Some sort of purgatory like this may also be an option.

But to be honest, this superintendent came across VERY strong. If you've never heard the careful way such incidents are normally addressed, you'll just have to take my word that this guy's statement sounds like he's calling for a witch burning in comparison. I think this woman's done. They're going to find a charge serious enough to break tenure and give her the boot, or he wouldn't be issuing statements this strongly worded.

It will take some time to complete a thorough investigation, which will involve interviews with many former students and parents. I'm betting it won't be hard to turn up more horror stories, and the threat of airing that laundry in public on top of the video will probably be enough for her to pack her bags voluntarily.

One note: the kid and her parents seem OK with this incident, or at least don't want to be involved in all the media attention. At least that's the story as told by another teacher. I'm sure they're near the top of the list of people the superintendent will want to speak with.

255 Scion9  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:55:03pm

re: #153 RightLogic

Palin should send her a fresh moose head in response.

That might make Levi, Bristol Palin's beau, rethink his desire to join "The Family".

256 NoSubmission  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:55:06pm

re: #232 nyc redneck

what is in it for sarah. that is the only question?
how can she benefit at this point?
my first instinct is for sarah to snub okra.


Nothing. Gov. Palin doesn't need that pandering fat pig. I'm sure she'll take the high road but I'd like to see her mail Oprah a dead skunk.

257 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:55:11pm

Anyone that hasn't read Obamas web site:

http://change.gov/agenda/economy/

should do so when the opportunity arises. He has a book written there that has expanded his Blueprint for Change and his promises. Don't know how this stuff is going to work out.

258 geepers  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:55:18pm

Outrider (#210),

Well, money time! Of course gas and heating oil prices are going to jump.

Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families:Barack Obama and Joe Biden will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills. This relief would be a down payment on the Obama-Biden long-term plan to provide middle-class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief.

It's sad when mathematical illiterates get elected.

Exxon Mobil reported second quarter profits of 11.7 billion for this year. "Exxon's profits amounted to about 8.5 cents per dollar per of sales verses 11.6 cents per dollar for the companies making up the Dow Jones industrials."
259 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:55:40pm

re: #252 Soona'

Obama: Er..uh...mm..I don't really like this country but this president stuff is turning out to be a cool gig.

He lights up and blows smoke rings during the speech.

260 ggt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:55:52pm

Good Evening Lizards! It's getting cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Well, I give kudos to the the Superintendent. Hope he's not the only one in the school systems that has those sentiments.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

261 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:56:16pm

re: #150 Typicalwhitey

Hell no.
Tell that bitch to fuck off.
Why give her the ratings? -TW

That is the key - Ratings.

Stop feeding the MSM Monster. Quit watching Oprah and the rest of leftist's garbage on the tube.

I might suggest even discarding your TV – but that is only one's personal preference.

262 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:56:28pm

re: #230 eon

We could do one on the number of times in his first Hundred Days he does something he "swore" he wouldn't do at all, too.

/in his case, look for them to be rather like Napoleon's, hence the capitalization

cheers

eon

The thing to watch for is how many times Obama says, "Like I've said before. . . ." and see if anyone in the lazy MSM actually does the research to see if he actually said the same thing in the past (especially during his campaign).

263 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:56:31pm

re: #195 mitthrawnurdo

I heard that line "Palin doesn't know Africa is a Contintent" today. grrr....

Yeah, and one of the people who reportedly "was shocked" about that was on Bill O'Reily's substitute show today and she said it was all malarky. Same about them being upset about clothes. She explained the clothes. "Its like when you do an interview, the network people come in with a rack of suits and you pick a few out. Sarah Palin is the most un-diva person I know" or something to that effect.

264 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:56:47pm

re: #258 geepers

Outrider (#210),

A Windfall Profits Tax on the DJIA!

265 DistantThunder  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:56:59pm

re: #227 infidel4ever

And how could anybody Not know that? Good grief, in which grade do they teach continents in the US? Seconed? Third?

re: #257 Outrider

Anyone that hasn't read Obamas web site:

http://change.gov/agenda/economy/

should do so when the opportunity arises. He has a book written there that has expanded his Blueprint for Change and his promises. Don't know how this stuff is going to work out.

Sowell said he was voting for McCain because he'd rather vote for a disaster than a catastrophe.

266 straitcircle  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:57:03pm

Bill Harris= hero

267 ggt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:57:05pm

re: #239 Outrider

Drive time radio was bemoaning the falling prices on barrels of crude how bad it was for the economy. They aren't happy with high crude prices, they aren't happy with low crude prices. WTF?

268 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:57:21pm

re: #240 Ward Cleaver

That's BS.

It doesn't matter. Reality doesn't matter.
She's a bimbo, a dumb babe. That's the story. That's all.
Personalize. Isolate. Ridicule. Marginalize. Demonize.

269 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:57:51pm

re: #250 rightymouse

He was for the global warming nonsense, for cripe's sake. Newt has sipped some kool-aid along the way.

I'm thinking more of someone Fred Thompson for RNC chair, except he's got his own PAC right now.

If global warming is all we can come up with to oppose Newt for party chair, then I think he's in. I thought of that too, but he knows what he's talking about here- Reaganism, conservatism, training the ranks to articulate the message. we desperately need that. As RNC Chair, he's not going to be drafting legislation on anything, and will have his hands too full rebuilding to be pushing global warming.

270 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:57:54pm

re: #240 Ward Cleaver

Again, trying to avoid UNEMPLOYMENT next campaign.

These McCain people make me sick.

O clip running on Fox now on the Reagan thing...now more sick.

LONG four years. I respect the office (not the made up President Elect office), but am losing respect for Obama everyday since the election. All Washington insiders in his cabinet.

/Change!

271 DistantThunder  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:57:56pm

re: #261 Ledger1

Hell no.
Tell that bitch to fuck off.
Why give her the ratings? -TW

That is the key - Ratings.

Stop feeding the MSM Monster. Quit watching Oprah and the rest of leftist's garbage on the tube.

I might suggest even discarding your TV – but that is only one's personal preference.

We canceled cable so we can focus on books - they need my eyeballs more than I need their media product.

272 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:58:06pm

re: #248 infidel4ever

I think he has gathered some of the troops to do just that. I also think that this whole thing wasn't about Sarah but someone wanting to take a little heat off the O-man.

Who kicks someone like that when they are down?

273 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:58:14pm

re: #246 Steve Rogers

California is probably long gone. Let them collapse in on themselves so they can start fresh and hopefully abandon all the wacky people and ideas that make up that state. For example, there is probably no other state that has more energy alternatives (wind, solar, geothermal, etc.), that the looney left says will magically get us off oil, and yet each summer, year in and year out, they run out of power with their rolling blackouts. So perhaps we should not focus on them for the moment. They may have to learn the hard way the way the Soviet Union did.

But there must be a way in the other 49 states (or 56 if your Obama) to counter the looney left stranglehold on the "education" of children. I know people will say, "Home Schooling," and that's just fine. But there is no way home schooling will ever make a dent in the massive government-education near-monopoly in this nation. There has to be a way.

If you think there is a way to counter the Loony Left in New York or Massachusetts (where that shit started and was exported here to California in the '60s and '70s, btw), you're crazy.

274 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:58:24pm

re: #222 Piglet-U93

The NC teacher berating those children cound not have been clearer. You could see it in the childrens faces as their parents we basically painted as a very very dark evil mosaic.

Decent kids are taught to respect their teachers. I could see in the girl's face everything she wished she could say back but was taught to zip it up. It was humiliating for the child to listen to the teacher and have no supporting forum to respond.

275 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:58:35pm

re: #265 DistantThunder

Sowell said he was voting for McCain because he'd rather vote for a disaster than a catastrophe.

so he got both.... at the same time.

276 itellu3times  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:58:40pm

re: #258 geepers

Excellent. While Exxon isn't the only oil company, a $1000 rebate to all families will cost, what, about $300b? And that's all families below, oh, $100k/year.

Meanwhile, the oil companies will move all their profits offshore.

277 Daisy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:58:57pm

re: #236 mitthrawnurdo

At least I think Gov. Palin knows there are 50 states.

And she damned well knows Africa is a continent. This is wicked nonsense. Funny how this is being blared, and Obama's 20 year attendance at a church that taught the Africa was the center of the universe and a place for the USA to emulate gets a big ho hum.

278 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:59:09pm

re: #257 Outrider

Anyone that hasn't read Obamas web site:

http://change.gov/agenda/economy/

should do so when the opportunity arises. He has a book written there that has expanded his Blueprint for Change and his promises. Don't know how this stuff is going to work out.

Some enterprising individual needs to archive the contents of that site STAT!

279 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:59:09pm

re: #267 ggt

Drive time radio was bemoaning the falling prices on barrels of crude how bad it was for the economy. They aren't happy with high crude prices, they aren't happy with low crude prices. WTF?

maybe they have bosses in Iran or Venezuela?

280 Chris in Toronto  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:59:36pm

He said 7,000 employees in the school district. Does he mean 7,000 teachers? If so, that means on average about 2 military students per teacher. Would this treatment of such a small minority constitute a hate crime?

Just askin'.

281 eon  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 3:59:55pm

re: #250 rightymouse

He was for the global warming nonsense, for cripe's sake. Newt has sipped some kool-aid along the way.

I'm thinking more of someone Fred Thompson for RNC chair, except he's got his own PAC right now.


I'd either;

1. Appoint Governor Palin- to reforge the Party into something worth believing in again, as opposed to its present RINO status. or

2. Posthumously appoint Ronald Reagan or Charlton Heston RNC Chair in Perpetuity. On the principle of, "If you're going to work here, imagine them looking over your shoulder when you get ready to do something, and ask yourself, 'would he do that?'"

Either one would be an improvement over the present situation.

cheers

eon

282 geepers  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:00:15pm

SixDegrees (#254),

she could be history very quickly

She already is.

From ugetwhatuputout at #211:

According to Mr. Johnson, the woman pictured in the video is no longer employed by Asheville City Schools.
283 DistantThunder  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:00:30pm

re: #268 wolfie

It doesn't matter. Reality doesn't matter.
She's a bimbo, a dumb babe. That's the story. That's all.
Personalize. Isolate. Ridicule. Marginalize. Demonize.

Both her parents are teachers and her father is a science teacher. She's done endless school project with 4 kids - what are the odds that she doesn't know Africa is a continent - country- continent they both start with C - and that would be an easy mistake to blurt out.

Can you imagine the pressure and fatigue she was under? Anyone ever have any brain farts under those circumstances?

284 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:00:35pm

re: #267 ggt

Drive time radio was bemoaning the falling prices on barrels of crude how bad it was for the economy. They aren't happy with high crude prices, they aren't happy with low crude prices. WTF?

They're bemoaning it because it's bad for the "alternative energy" business. That's all.

285 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:01:05pm

re: #278 Slumbering Behemoth

Some enterprising individual needs to archive the contents of that site STAT!

how does one archive an entire site? Shy of actually "print screen" of each individual page?

286 Nuclear Ninja  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:01:15pm

re: #174 mitthrawnurdo

I noticed that as Medvedev spoke, you couldn't even see Putin's lips move. Pooty-poot is really good.

287 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:01:35pm

re: #227 infidel4ever

And how could anybody Not know that? Good grief, in which grade do they teach continents in the US? Seconed? Third?

How about the number of states in the USA?

The Big 0 said there were 57.

He the President Elect so he has to be right! Um, right?

288 logboy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:01:42pm

re: #261 Ledger1

Hell no.
Tell that bitch to fuck off.
Why give her the ratings? -TW

That is the key - Ratings.

Stop feeding the MSM Monster. Quit watching Oprah and the rest of leftist's garbage on the tube.

I might suggest even discarding your TV – but that is only one's personal preference.

Our TV broke back in September. I see no reason to get it fixed. I can watch the occasional movie on a laptop. Its amazing how much more I get done without it.

289 FrogMarch  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:01:43pm

Glenn Beck played the audio on his radio program today. Since my computer speakers are not so swift, and my car radio speakers are so much better - I could hear the teacher's *sighs* and "Oh Gods* after the kids who said "McCain".

Horrible.

Kids should not be asked about politics in a classroom environment - they are too young. Only freaky unprofessional totalitarian jerks do that.

290 devil in baggy pants  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:01:45pm

re: #178 Ringo the Gringo

He could never win, plus he's a bit of a nut.

We need fresh blood and fresh faces.


How about Rick Santorum? I don't know much about him, but he gave a hell of a speech when he lost his seat in 2006.

291 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:02:13pm

re: #261 Ledger1

Hell no.
Tell that bitch to fuck off.
Why give her the ratings? -TW

That is the key - Ratings.

Stop feeding the MSM Monster. Quit watching Oprah and the rest of leftist's garbage on the tube.

I might suggest even discarding your TV – but that is only one's personal preference.

WHAT? Throw away my HD big screen? I'll just quit watching the news, including FOX.

292 itellu3times  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:02:23pm

The Obamanation Chronicles, Chapter 1, The Early Days

Jim Cramer on CNBC is absolutely ranting about the head of the New York fed, Geirthner (sp?), who he says (a) is responsible for all the New York bank's trouble, (b) is responsible for the bad decision to let lehman fail, (c) hired Bear-Stearns risk manager into the fed instead of defenstrating him, and (d) is likely to be 0bambi's treasury secretary.

293 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:02:26pm

re: #257 Outrider

Anyone that hasn't read Obamas web site:

http://change.gov/agenda/economy/

should do so when the opportunity arises. He has a book written there that has expanded his Blueprint for Change and his promises. Don't know how this stuff is going to work out.


Without looking at it, I expect "Not Good".

294 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:02:42pm

re: #267 ggt

Drive time radio was bemoaning the falling prices on barrels of crude how bad it was for the economy. They aren't happy with high crude prices, they aren't happy with low crude prices. WTF?

OT - I'm just waiting for Bill O'Reilly to make idiotic comments again about how oil and gasoline prices are set. For someone with his education, you would think that he would know basic macro-economics.

295 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:02:56pm

re: #269 Sharmuta

If global warming is all we can come up with to oppose Newt for party chair, then I think he's in. I thought of that too, but he knows what he's talking about here- Reaganism, conservatism, training the ranks to articulate the message. we desperately need that. As RNC Chair, he's not going to be drafting legislation on anything, and will have his hands too full rebuilding to be pushing global warming.

Don't you think it's more than just Reaganism though?

Yes, we need to be able to articulate conservatism.

Conservatism started before Reagan and Newt, though, and THOSE are the principles that need to be taught again.

We're going to lose if we keep going back to just Reagan, IMO.

296 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:03:07pm

re: #285 Outrider

how does one archive an entire site? Shy of actually "print screen" of each individual page?

I don't know, but there must be some web-savvy folks here who do know. Any one?

297 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:03:11pm

re: #268 wolfie

It doesn't matter. Reality doesn't matter.
She's a bimbo, a dumb babe. That's the story. That's all.
Personalize. Isolate. Ridicule. Marginalize. Demonize.

Palin and her ideas scare the piss out of the Left. That's the reason for all the attention, post-anointing.

Discount----->Discredit------>Dismiss. I've seen the tactic a thousand times. They learn it in law school.

298 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:03:24pm

re: #270 Abbey

Again, trying to avoid UNEMPLOYMENT next campaign.

These McCain people make me sick.

O clip running on Fox now on the Reagan thing...now more sick.

LONG four years. I respect the office (not the made up President Elect office), but am losing respect for Obama everyday since the election. All Washington insiders in his cabinet.

/Change!

I never had respect for him in the first place.

299 reine.de.tout  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:03:56pm

re: #274 rightymouse

Decent kids are taught to respect their teachers. I could see in the girl's face everything she wished she could say back but was taught to zip it up. It was humiliating for the child to listen to the teacher and have no supporting forum to respond.

And since that child's has at least one parent in the military, I bet she was indeed taught to respect her teacher.

What that teacher did was just so awful, so terrible . . . I just can't imagine. That child looked so completely all alone, sitting there.

And then there's this - how many of her friends will now refuse to associate with her because the "teacher" has "taught" them so well that this little girl and her family are to be ridiculed based on their political preferences?

What that teacher did has effects far beyond that particular moment in the classroom.

300 Outrider  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:04:04pm

re: #240 Ward Cleaver

That's BS.

this all goes back to the McCain aide talking out of turn. His word.

301 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:04:39pm

re: #277 Daisy

Let's talk about some serious idiocy that we know Obama and Biden actually said.......
.....like how Iran is a tiny, harmless country
.......and how we and the French cleared Hezbollah out of Lebanon.
Sheer idiocy. PROVEN to have been said. And of serious consequence.

302 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:04:44pm

re: #261 Ledger1

Hell no.
Tell that bitch to fuck off.
Why give her the ratings? -TW

That is the key - Ratings.

Stop feeding the MSM Monster. Quit watching Oprah and the rest of leftist's garbage on the tube.

I might suggest even discarding your TV – but that is only one's personal preference.

Me and Mrs. Abbey have sworn off The Today Show. We like our local NBC, but sorry...

Dogs and cats no longer watch as well:)

303 capitalist piglet  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:04:46pm

re: #226 mitthrawnurdo

He'd be wise not to scratch his face during the speech.

From the Desk of The President-Elect of the United States of America/World

People to flip off during public appearances:

Hillary
McCain
The Chimp
Dick
The Ghost of Ronald Reagan
55.78 million Americans who did not vote for me

304 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:04:47pm

re: #192 Silhouette

That was my feeling, too. The way she phrased her reassurances would have immediately alerted older people that disagreement with her views would be viewed as or labeled wrong despite what she said.

As it turns out, supporting McCain was taught as wrong in her class in spite of all her assurances that it was okay to hold differing opinions.

305 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:04:51pm

re: #288 logboy

Good move.

I don't have a TV in the house. Now, the family is happier and more productive.

The net is just fine with me.

306 JeremiahRight  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:05:06pm

Newt? are you freaking kidding me? You mean this Newt?!

He had his shot, its time for new leadership

307 ggt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:05:12pm

Hubby says Obama won't do anything too crazy in the first 4 years because he is such an egomaniac he'll be making every decision with re-election in mind.

Campaigning and getting elected is the one thing we know he can do.

308 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:05:13pm

DRUDGE HEADLINE:

DEBUT: Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan

What a putz

309 FrogMarch  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:05:57pm

As for Palin - it's payback time. She had the balls to ridicule and mock Obama at the convention. A big big big no no. Holy progressive communists and liberals CANNOT be mocked. The left and these so called "un-named sources" are doing this. I promise.

310 maredneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:06:02pm

re: #126 Sol Roth

Hey! They're in Houston! Yeehhaaahh! Pretty too. Better go get me some tikka masala. Thank you.

311 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:06:39pm

re: #281 eon

Heston's the man! If he can win the Battle of Valencia when he's dead, he had head up the RNC when he's dead. No sweat!

(Anyone see El Cid?)

312 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:06:40pm

re: #295 rightymouse

I think we need to go back to fiscal conservatism and smaller government. I think if republicans wanted a congress that spent money like drunken sailors we could elect democrats. Oh, wait- we basically did.

313 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:06:45pm

re: #308 Typicalwhitey

DRUDGE HEADLINE:

DEBUT: Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan

What a putz

Wanna bet the "Daily Apology" will become a fixture over the next four years?

314 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:06:50pm

re: #291 Soona'

That's good enough.

315 JeremiahRight  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:07:18pm

re: #308 Typicalwhitey

DRUDGE HEADLINE:

DEBUT: Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan

What a putz

that is unbeliebaly priceless. The One has to apologize for his first press conference!

316 Ledger1  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:07:49pm

re: #302 Abbey

Good going.

317 Irene NYC  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:08:11pm

Was I mishearing the vid, or was the teacher asking each child, "Who are you going to vote for?" Now, even if they were having a mock election, one of the first things I was taught about elections was that each person's vote was secret.

Whoops! Furgot that Obama is aiming to change that. (There's that darn change that he keeps talking about again.)

318 NoSubmission  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:08:19pm

re: #308 Typicalwhitey

DRUDGE HEADLINE:

DEBUT: Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan

What a putz


This is the precursor of what is to follow in the next 4 long years. Umbama spews idiocy on an international stage and then has to apologize. 'That's not the joke I knew!'

I.AM.SO.FU(*&KING.ANGRY.I.DON'T.THINK.THAT.I.C AN.STAND.IT.

319 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:08:27pm

re: #309 FrogMarch

As for Palin - it's payback time. She had the balls to ridicule and mock Obama at the convention. A big big big no no. Holy progressive communists and liberals CANNOT be mocked. The left and these so called "un-named sources" are doing this. I promise.

I'm quite certain the "unnamed McCain staffers" are Huckabee/Romney people who are still pissed their guy was not picked.

320 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:08:30pm

re: #306 JeremiahRight

Newt? are you freaking kidding me? You mean this Newt?!

He had his shot, its time for new leadership

Really makes one ill, doesn't it.

321 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:08:33pm

re: #315 JeremiahRight

that is unbeliebaly priceless. The One has to apologize for his first press conference!

obama's honeymoon with the press is ending sooner than i thought.
Love your nic btw.

322 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:08:56pm

re: #306 JeremiahRight

Name a republican who has any credibility on fiscal sanity in Washington with a track record of building a winning agenda republicans can use to win.

323 eon  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:17pm

re: #296 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't know, but there must be some web-savvy folks here who do know. Any one?

In Win2000, most sites can be archived by right-clicking the mouse. Go down to "Save Page As....", click, and you will get the files screen of your computer. Pick a folder to save it in, click again, and that folder opens.

You will see "Save page as ..", with a field for the file name. Under it will be a pulldown field saying "Entire Web Page" or "html". Click on whichever one you prefer ("Entire Web page" would be the best choice), click "Save", and you're done.

/don't ask how I know this.

cheers

eon

324 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:19pm

re: #298 Soona'

I never had respect for him in the first place.

I agree. Bad choice of words. I just don't want to be a Bushitler minded person wannabe with Obamessiah.

325 snowbunnybutt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:23pm

My mom was a teacher for years, and she could not believe this when I showed her. Glad something is being done.

326 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:28pm

re: #312 Sharmuta

I think we need to go back to fiscal conservatism and smaller government. I think if republicans wanted a congress that spent money like drunken sailors we could elect democrats. Oh, wait- we basically did.

This will not end well. Fiscal conservatism is not coming back for some time, UNLESS it is preceded by a total calamity. Come to think of it, that very calamity may be underway.

We now rejoin your calamity, already in progress.

327 JeremiahRight  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:35pm

re: #322 Sharmuta

Name a republican who has any credibility on fiscal sanity in Washington with a track record of building a winning agenda republicans can use to win.

Mitt Romney.

328 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:41pm

re: #281 eon

I'd either;

1. Appoint Governor Palin- to reforge the Party into something worth believing in again, as opposed to its present RINO status. or

2. Posthumously appoint Ronald Reagan or Charlton Heston RNC Chair in Perpetuity. On the principle of, "If you're going to work here, imagine them looking over your shoulder when you get ready to do something, and ask yourself, 'would he do that?'"

Either one would be an improvement over the present situation.

cheers

eon


The problem I have with Newt is that he has strayed from his own principles. And to be blunt, so has McCain and that's why we were not so pumped until Palin was tapped for VP.

Gov. Palin freaked out the RINOs because she is a conservative. She upset the status quo in the GOP RINO group. Tough. They better get used to it.

329 Daisy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:42pm

re: #274 rightymouse

Decent kids are taught to respect their teachers. I could see in the girl's face everything she wished she could say back but was taught to zip it up. It was humiliating for the child to listen to the teacher and have no supporting forum to respond.

I saw the same thing, and I saw her suppressed tears of humiliation and anger. I believe there were other kids in the class who had parents in Iraq. They were all cowed by that bull. I felt even sorrier for the kid who gave the 'correct' answer. Who does she go home to?

Incidentally, I thank God that as a child I didn't have to witness the spectacle of badly dressed teachers jumping around on a stage waving cheer leader thingys. The kids in the video didn't seem to be enjoying the role reversal either.

330 Intrepid  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:09:56pm

re: #308 Typicalwhitey

DRUDGE HEADLINE:

DEBUT: Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan

What a putz

What a glorious start to his "President-elect" period - insulting and then having to apologize to a well-respected and elderly former first lady who is recovering from recent surgery.

I have a feeling Mr Obama is going to be issuing hundreds of apology press-releases these next four years. He and Joe Biden are proving to be bookends with their foot-in-mouth statements.

331 logboy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:10:25pm

So will we know if she actually gets fired?

332 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:10:25pm

Newt Gingrich wants to teach creationism in science classes.

I saw him do this in New Hampshire in 1995 during his first test-drive of a presidential bid. There, a local school board had been taken over by religious fundamentalists who were trying to introduce the biblical account of creation into the science curriculum of a school district in a town where many of the citizens worked in the high-tech sector.

"I think you can certainly refer to both creationism and evolution as something that people ought to be aware of -- together," Gingrich told me at a press conference in Manchester, N.H. "If you look at chaos theory and the degree to which the certainty of the 19th century is beginning to be replaced, I don't think there's any problem with teaching both."

333 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:10:50pm

re: #327 JeremiahRight

Mitt Romney.

Right- that's why he won the nomination, huh?

334 HelloDare  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:10:51pm

Tried to find Mr. Harris' email. Couldn't. Came across this transcript of his YouTube statement.

11.7.08

I was shocked when I saw the clip of an interaction between a Cumberland County Schools teacher and her students as posted on YouTube. While neutral discussion of the political process is appropriate, at no time, particularly with elementary students, should a teacher infuse his/her political views into the discussion. Most disconcerting was the military slant that made its way into this discussion. We are a military community, serving over 15,000 military students and their families. We value the sacrifices, not only of the military parents but also those of their families.

We believe that military children are our children, military spouses are many of our employees, and military service men and women are our heroes. We proudly serve our military children and have received national awards for our support of military families.

I was particularly disturbed to see the uncomfortable position in which our children were placed due to the inappropriate actions of one of our teachers. Please be assured that the actions exhibited in this video are not consistent with the vision of the CCS. Moreover, the actions of one teacher do not represent the 7000 employees in our organization.

Once the video was brought to my attention, I immediately launched an investigation. Personnel laws prevent me from releasing information regarding individual employees and personnel action taken. I can assure you that upon completion of the investigation, I will take appropriate action.

335 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:10:52pm

re: #318 NoSubmission

This is the precursor of what is to follow in the next 4 long years. Umbama spews idiocy on an international stage and then has to apologize. 'That's not the joke I knew!'

I.AM.SO.FU(*&KING.ANGRY.I.DON'T.THINK.TH AT.I.CAN.STAND.IT.

In today's Daily Apology, a spokesman for the Obama Administration issued the following statement...

336 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:10:54pm

re: #319 Spiny Norman

I'm quite certain the "unnamed McCain staffers" are Huckabee/Romney people who are still pissed their guy was not picked.

Huckabee, maybe. Romney, not so much.

337 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:11:02pm

re: #332 Charles

Crap

338 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:11:21pm

Crap

339 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:11:41pm

re: #308 Typicalwhitey

DRUDGE HEADLINE:

DEBUT: Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan

What a putz

Winning the election will reinforce his arrogance. That arrogance will spill out, as we've just seen, and get him into trouble.

/the sun rises in the east, illuminating zillions of bears in the woods

340 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:11:43pm

re: #323 eon

In Win2000, most sites can be archived by right-clicking the mouse. Go down to "Save Page As....", click, and you will get the files screen of your computer. Pick a folder to save it in, click again, and that folder opens.

You will see "Save page as ..", with a field for the file name. Under it will be a pulldown field saying "Entire Web Page" or "html". Click on whichever one you prefer ("Entire Web page" would be the best choice), click "Save", and you're done.

/don't ask how I know this.

cheers

eon

Would that save the entire contents of the website, or just the current page you are looking at?

Cheers!

341 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:12:33pm

re: #332 Charles

I don't consider Newt a viable politician. He has managed to alienate even someone like myself.

What kind of man serves his wife divorce papers as she lay dying?

342 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:12:33pm

Maybe I should run for RNC chair

343 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:12:45pm

re: #313 Spiny Norman

Wanna bet the "Daily Apology" will become a fixture over the next four years?

When you throw someone under the bus and then back up I would think that it would be hard to forgive that person but Nancy Reagan will because she has old-school class.

344 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:12:47pm

re: #39 astronmr20

We don't have teacher's unions in NC, so there is no one to protect this hate-mongering ass-clown. This needs to be made a public spectacle of.

And sooner then latter please!

345 Piglet-U93  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:12:49pm

re: #295 rightymouse

Don't you think it's more than just Reaganism though?

Yes, we need to be able to articulate conservatism.

Conservatism started before Reagan and Newt, though, and THOSE are the principles that need to be taught again.

We're going to lose if we keep going back to just Reagan, IMO.

Isn't there a new "Conservatives Handbook" that was recently published?

In fact I know there is becasue I went to B&N and tried to buy one but their initial stock of 8 were all sold out.

Book

346 infidel4ever  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:12:50pm

re: #297 Sol Roth

Palin and her ideas scare the piss out of the Left. That's the reason for all the attention, post-anointing.

Discount----->Discredit------>Dismiss. I've seen the tactic a thousand times. They learn it in law school.

I am sure they do not want her as competition for the Zero in 2012, so they will try to smear her so much she won't be chosen by the GOP. All the more reason for McCain to get off his backside and say something!

347 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:01pm

The GOP has a very serious problem with this stuff. It's pointless to deny it.

348 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:08pm

re: #299 reine.de.tout

And since that child's has at least one parent in the military, I bet she was indeed taught to respect her teacher.

What that teacher did was just so awful, so terrible . . . I just can't imagine. That child looked so completely all alone, sitting there.

And then there's this - how many of her friends will now refuse to associate with her because the "teacher" has "taught" them so well that this little girl and her family are to be ridiculed based on their political preferences?

What that teacher did has effects far beyond that particular moment in the classroom.


Yep - peer pressure at that age is awful. Hopefully, she will not be subjected to torment. The other kids seemed rather hesitant as well. Looked like a decent group of kids.

When I saw the young gal's face, I thought what a horrible 'teaching moment' this young person was just given by her teacher.

349 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:13pm

re: #332 Charles

Newt Gingrich wants to teach creationism is science classes.

What does Chaos have to do with Creationism? I'd like to see that dance.

350 big L  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:15pm

Along the general line of these comments, questions to ask the big 'O' is:
"Which private school will your daughters attend? O will they attend public school in the D.C system?
"Will the O admin support vouchers for Washington D.C. parents and kids?

351 NoSubmission  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:16pm

re: #335 Spiny Norman

In today's Daily Apology, a spokesman for the Obama Administration issued the following statement...


We're going to have to start archiving his stupid crap. Every time I hear someone say that Umbama is a great speaker I want to throw up!

352 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:20pm

re: #327 JeremiahRight

Mitt Romney.

I agree!

353 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:27pm

re: #332 Charles

If that is what he really wants, why didn't he make a effort when he was Speaker.

354 Catttt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:29pm

I did a Cafe Press store! Don't want to post a link, as it would be an ad, which would be unfair to the paid ads.

One product so far. I am going to use any profits for tip jars and online contributions.

I'm thinking of adding this:

Unintelligent Design.

I need to do a pic that would punch the idea, though. Thinking. Suggestions welcome.

355 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:36pm

re: #330 Intrepid

What a glorious start to his "President-elect" period - insulting and then having to apologize to a well-respected and elderly former first lady who is recovering from recent surgery.

I have a feeling Mr Obama is going to be issuing hundreds of apology press-releases these next four years. He and Joe Biden are proving to be bookends with their foot-in-mouth statements.

Let the gaffes begin!

356 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:13:37pm

re: #342 Sharmuta

That'd be smurftastic! I'd support ya.

357 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:14:03pm

re: #327 JeremiahRight

AGREED! As I posted on FallbackLGF Wednesday!

358 Daisy  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:14:03pm

re: #301 wolfie

Let's talk about some serious idiocy that we know Obama and Biden actually said.......
.....like how Iran is a tiny, harmless country
.......and how we and the French cleared Hezbollah out of Lebanon.
Sheer idiocy. PROVEN to have been said. And of serious consequence.

Does Chris Matthews know about this? If so, he's not sayin'.

359 Charles  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:14:07pm

re: #353 Spiny Norman

If that is what he really wants, why didn't he make a effort when he was Speaker.

Those are his words.

360 rboa  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:14:26pm

Nothing will happen to this teacher.

361 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:14:39pm

re: #347 Charles

Thanks for letting me know about Newt- I had no idea.

362 right Brain  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:14:39pm

Well done Mr. Harris, went right to Youtube, you're smart, and current.

Kudos.

363 eon  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:15:35pm

re: #311 wolfie

Heston's the man! If he can win the Battle of Valencia when he's dead, he had head up the RNC when he's dead. No sweat!

(Anyone see El Cid?)

Great movie. He triumphed over the Mahdi in Khartoum, as well, after being slain. (General "Chinese" Gordon, 1885- the British relief column arrived a week later, and the Mahdists quickly found out why hanging about was an outstandingly bad idea.)

/Gardner and Martini-Henry fire can do that for you

cheers

eon

364 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:15:47pm

Later Lizards, got stuffs to do.

365 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:15:54pm

re: #342 Sharmuta

Maybe I should run for RNC chair


There ya' go. Do it!

366 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:16:03pm

re: #359 Charles

Those are his words.


I understand that. So why didn't he and his allies make the slightest effort 5to do so when they could have?

Because they know it won't fly.

367 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:16:22pm

re: #196 goddessoftheclassroom

Worse still, whenever my students say anything the leat but moonbattish or wingnuttish, I demand a citation and the source.

How is that wine working out for ya tonight? I'm drining a 2004 BV merlot from Napa.
So i got a fun question for ya..
As you know I like to blog in the 3rd person..you know
the hoopster really likes this or that..
so the hoopster has a question for you..
Can you talk in the 4th person?
I know it can't be 3rd person past tense..that would be..
The hoopster sure did a dumb thing..Is there a 4th person?
and if not..Can't we think real hard and come up with one?

368 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:16:24pm

re: #289 FrogMarch

Glenn Beck played the audio on his radio program today. Since my computer speakers are not so swift, and my car radio speakers are so much better - I could hear the teacher's *sighs* and "Oh Gods* after the kids who said "McCain".

Horrible.

Kids should not be asked about politics in a classroom environment - they are too young. Only freaky unprofessional totalitarian jerks do that.

If the teacher was competent enough to actually discuss politics impartially in a friendly way it can help teach children about diverse views and such—I had teachers that would do such things when I grew up. This teacher was not able to exhibit such behavior. Children are fragile enough without a teacher fishing for comments to belittle them for.

369 littlegreenbill  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:16:30pm

Excellent idea using YouTube for response. Who said old grey white men can't play in the technology game?

I wonder if Obama's apology will be on YouTube.

370 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:16:36pm

re: #337 Sharmuta

Newt has not exactly been a Republican cheerleader the last few years. Granted he had valid points regarding spending, you fight behind closed doors and come out with a unified message.

371 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:17:03pm

re: #365 Soona'

You realize I was joking. Those DC boys don't like girls coming in from the outside.

372 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:17:08pm

re: #342 Sharmuta

Maybe I should run for RNC chair

got my vote sharm

373 SixDegrees  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:17:20pm

re: #282 geepers

SixDegrees (#254),

She left Asheville in 2004; she's currently teaching in Fayetteville, where the incident filmed took place.

374 HelloDare  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:17:47pm

Don't worry people. Obama's Civilian Defense Force to quash any talk about creationism.

375 FrogMarch  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:17:51pm

Despite Newt's imperfections - he is a wonderful communicator. Something sadly missing from the ranks.

376 JeremiahRight  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:18:02pm

re: #369 littlegreenbill

Excellent idea using YouTube for response. Who said old grey white men can't play in the technology game?

I wonder if Obama's apology will be on YouTube.

no kidding. His remarks about Nancy were televised, shouldn't his apology be also?

377 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:18:19pm

re: #370 Abbey

Charles has cured me of my Newtitis.

378 rightymouse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:18:22pm

re: #312 Sharmuta

I think we need to go back to fiscal conservatism and smaller government. I think if republicans wanted a congress that spent money like drunken sailors we could elect democrats. Oh, wait- we basically did.


I agree. But we need to put modern, yet plain, concise language around the principles of conservatism. And we need charismatic, yet good communicators to do this.

If we don't, we're going to lose again.

379 RightLogic  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:18:31pm

re: #361 Sharmuta

Thanks for letting me know about Newt- I had no idea.

Charles is getting good a clearing the air and helping expose potential political flaws.

Charles, you should hold a webanair at some point for all Lizoids and go over the pros and cons of each of the up-and-coming GOP politicians.

380 Intrepid  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:18:45pm

re: #361 Sharmuta

Thanks for letting me know about Newt- I had no idea.

This brings up an interesting point: Sarah Palin is an evangelical and non-apologetic Christian, but she doesn't advocate teaching ID or creationism in science classes; Newt Gingrich, who has never (that I know of) claimed any particular strongly held religious affiliations, does.

381 tommygum  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:18:46pm

re: #132 Abbey

OT - Fox is saying that Oprah is seeking Palin interview. Palin should either tear her a new one or simply say eff-off.

Eff-off.

382 Catttt  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:19:09pm

re: #374 HelloDare

Don't worry people. Obama's Civilian Defense Force to quash any talk about creationism.

There's got to be a way to mock OCDF on a t-shirt.

383 HelloDare  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:19:12pm

re: #375 FrogMarch

Despite Newt's Obama's imperfections - he is a wonderful communicator. Something sadly missing from the ranks.

384 Geepers  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:19:21pm

SixDegrees (#373),

She left Asheville in 2004; she's currently teaching in Fayetteville, where the incident filmed took place.

Thanks for the clarification.

Hopefully she won't be in Fayetteville in 2009.

385 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:19:57pm

I don't consider serving one's wife divorce papers while she is on her death bed an "imperfection". That is pure frikken evil, a total and complete lack of personal character, and if I wanted that in a candidate I'd be a Democrat.

386 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:20:12pm

re: #371 Sharmuta

You realize I was joking. Those DC boys don't like girls coming in from the outside.

Then it's time for...you guessed it....CHANGE.

387 ciaospirit  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:20:13pm

I think the crux of the problem with Libs taking over is that they are working at the local and state level with their groups Vote America, ACORN, etc., and putting out their message constantly. Repubs are assuming the message is getting out. I don't know how many people I talked to who had no idea about Ayers, Wright, Alinsky, or anything else about Obama's socialist, anti-American connections and beliefs. And this was right up to election day. We are not doing a good enough job in getting the facts out. Yes, I know the Obamabots could care less what the facts are, but many other small government/pro National Security people may have been motivated to vote against the socialist extremists taking over our country. In Ohio, the Dispatch reported that voter turnout was less than 2004.

388 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:20:15pm

re: #363 eon

Oh. That's right! He was victoriously dead in that one too!

This is getting weirod!

389 Shug  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:20:35pm

re: #385 rawmuse

I don't consider serving one's wife divorce papers while she is on her death bed an "imperfection".


I call it an act of impatience

390 capitalist piglet  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:20:46pm

re: #341 rawmuse

I don't consider Newt a viable politician. He has managed to alienate even someone like myself.

What kind of man serves his wife divorce papers as she lay dying?

Count me in the "Please No Newt" crowd, as well. His image has been utterly destroyed by the media - we need a fresh face that doesn't look like the pastor with the unattractive wife at dinner in "Borat".

(I'm personally not that shallow, but our culture definitely is.)

391 Piglet-U93  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:21:19pm

re: #361 Sharmuta

Thanks for letting me know about Newt- I had no idea.

So easily convinced? Perhaps Newt also believes in adaptive evolution then what? Maybe his Creationism is limited to why there is life. I will look into this since I know so little about his position.

392 infidel Alan  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:21:39pm

re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth

Would that save the entire contents of the website, or just the current page you are looking at?

Cheers!

I think what you need is an application that downloads websites. One I have used is called "BlackWidow"

393 itellu3times  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:21:42pm

re: #332 Charles

Newt Gingrich wants to teach creationism in science classes.

"If you look at chaos theory and the degree to which the certainty of the 19th century is beginning to be replaced, I don't think there's any problem with teaching both."

Friggin' pseudo. Come on, Newt, a lot of us look to you for some kind of intellectuality in politics, this is third-rate litcrit. 19th century certainty - was discarded in the 19th century, in favor of empiricism, which is the basic metaphysical flavor of socialism. Really, 19th century certainty is a contradiction, certainty was earlier and either theological or Newtonian, if you will. What Newt garbles badly is the replacement of 19th century determinism with the 20th century stochastics of quantum theory, but then again, Poincare knew about chaos theory in the (last days of the) 19th century, and deterministic chaos is as slippery as quantum mechanics. If anything, the most modern trends are to a new romanticism, the sterility of the lack of certainty in the twentieth century, has spawned a counter-revolution, just as one would expect, very dialectic. Creationism is an atavism, which is best sold as new romantic poetry, not science. Of course, in the Obamanation, science will be replaced by pixies and rainbows anyway, and Newt will soon be teaching basic auto mechanics as his public service assignment.

394 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:21:44pm

[Link: www.politico.com...]

snip:

The war in Vietnam was an illegal invasion and occupation, much of it conducted as a war of terror against the civilian population. The U.S. military killed millions of Vietnamese in air raids - like the one conducted by McCain - and entire areas of the country were designated free-fire zones, where American pilots indiscriminately dropped surplus ordinance - an immoral enterprise by any measure

Why is this pig ayers being treated as a human being?
Why is anyone printing what he has to say?

395 wolfie  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:21:58pm

re: #368 David IV of Georgia

Since very, very few teachers (even those who want to) can be objective in these matters, I believe the subject should be strictly off limits below the high school level.

396 eon  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:22:06pm

re: #332 Charles

Newt Gingrich wants to teach creationism in science classes.

Chaos theory (derived from Heisenberg and Einstein) replaced determinism (which I assume is what the Newtster is talking about) because determinism required physics to behave in ways it clearly did not; the Michaelson-Morley experiment which disproved the existence of the "ether" is just one example of the negative proofs involved. To compare "Creationism" or "Intelligent Design" to the pre-Uncertainty Principle view of physics shows that Gingrich knows nothing about evolution, natural selection or physics.

He apparently isn't too clear on the scientific method in general, either.

cheers

eon

397 FrogMarch  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:22:12pm

re: #368 David IV of Georgia

If the teacher was competent enough to actually discuss politics impartially in a friendly way it can help teach children about diverse views and such—I had teachers that would do such things when I grew up. This teacher was not able to exhibit such behavior. Children are fragile enough without a teacher fishing for comments to belittle them for.

Exactly. She kept saying the Iraq war was pointless. That's her opinion - and nothing more. That's not teaching. That's preaching.
She not only shamed the kids who were forced to say who they were "supporting" (I guess now that ACORN has made it legal for kids, dead people and mickey mouse to vote - what the hell?) - she didn't discuss the topic in an educational manner.

398 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:22:39pm

ok, ok, ok.....guess who I am.....
"Sorry you don't understand my, uh, uhm, nuance, uh, I didn't, uh say that, uh, I said something, uh, else, uh, that you, uh, didn't hear."

/haw many fuckin' times have we heard this already?

399 Sol Roth  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:22:57pm

re: #371 Sharmuta

You realize I was joking. Those DC boys don't like girls coming in from the outside.

You mean, like Sarah. Look, the only way the RNC is going to be reformed is with believers like you and Charles refocusing the platform. Get us back on Reagan's fundamentals, the ones shared by all conservatives.

Step into the breach.

400 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:23:05pm

re: #385 rawmuse

I don't consider serving one's wife divorce papers while she is on her death bed an "imperfection". That is pure frikken evil, a total and complete lack of personal character, and if I wanted that in a candidate I'd be a Democrat.

Just rolled into this one raw..
What?
You don't need to serve divorce papers on a deathbed..
Death ends the marriage..no lawyer would advise that..None i know..
I know there is a link to this story..but muse.. I won't be able to read it..

401 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:23:14pm

re: #299 reine.de.tout

And since that child's has at least one parent in the military, I bet she was indeed taught to respect her teacher.

What that teacher did was just so awful, so terrible . . . I just can't imagine. That child looked so completely all alone, sitting there.

And then there's this - how many of her friends will now refuse to associate with her because the "teacher" has "taught" them so well that this little girl and her family are to be ridiculed based on their political preferences?

What that teacher did has effects far beyond that particular moment in the classroom.

well said.

402 Irene NYC  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:23:27pm

zombie should be head of the RNC. zombie's cool, hip, techno-savvy and the fact that no one knows who exactly zombie is would blow the dems minds.

;)

403 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:23:29pm

re: #18 Catttt

I know what you mean. My father was a teacher and my sister is now. Both were/are dedicated despite some real jackasses for co-teachers and administration. The teacher in the video is probably one of many (unfortunately). It's time to clean house!

404 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:23:35pm

re: #398 IslandLibertarian

ok, ok, ok.....guess who I am.....
"Sorry you don't understand my, uh, uhm, nuance, uh, I didn't, uh say that, uh, I said something, uh, else, uh, that you, uh, didn't hear."

/haw many fuckin' times have we heard this already?

The question is........
how many more fuckin' times are we gonna have to hear this in the next four years?

405 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:23:49pm

Where have you gone William Buckley? Our party turns it's lonely eyes to you.....

406 legalpad  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:23:55pm

re: #315 JeremiahRight

that is unbeliebaly priceless. The One has to apologize for his first press conference!

This bOzo has to get used to the fact that he is no longer just a nasty little revolutionary who sits on the sidelines and insults people.

407 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:24:31pm

re: #403 Joan Not of Arc

I know what you mean. My father was a teacher and my sister is now. Both were/are dedicated despite some real jackasses for co-teachers and administration. The teacher in the video is probably one of many (unfortunately). It's time to clean house!

The NEA will have your head for that.

=^0

408 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:24:41pm

re: #394 Typicalwhitey

[Link: www.politico.com...]

snip:


Why is this pig ayers being treated as a human being?
Why is anyone printing what he has to say?

I thought that was coming from Kerry as I read it............
Same LIES, different LIAR!

409 Summersong  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:24:58pm

Per Fox News, Obama has called Mrs. Reagan...

410 Abbey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:25:19pm

re: #370 Abbey

Newt has not exactly been a Republican cheerleader the last few years. Granted he had valid correct points regarding spending, you fight behind closed doors and come out with a unified message.

Better!

411 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:25:59pm

re: #406 legalpad

This bOzo has to get used to the fact that he is no longer just a nasty little revolutionary who sits on the sidelines and insults people.

Why? He has a "Mandate for Change".

Embrace your nasty little inner Bolshevik and rejoice!

Heh.

412 Soona'  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:26:00pm

re: #394 Typicalwhitey

[Link: www.politico.com...]

snip:

Why is this pig ayers being treated as a human being?
Why is anyone printing what he has to say?

Get used to it. We'll be hearing from all sorts of wackos now that the O is prez.

413 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:26:07pm

re: #391 Piglet-U93

Then show me a link.

414 NoSubmission  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:26:10pm

re: #409 Summersong

Per Fox News, Obama has called Mrs. Reagan...


He just makes me so sick.

415 Intrepid  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:26:18pm

re: #405 Sharmuta

Where have you gone William Buckley? Our party turns it's lonely eyes to you.....

My father (a self-proclaimed "Harry Truman" democrat) loved watching Bill Buckley. I always wanted to reach into the tv screen and straighten up his neck tie - it was perpetually off center.

/'Trep is a tiny bit OCD in all things symmetry...

416 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:26:19pm

re: #406 legalpad

This bOzo has to get used to the fact that he is no longer just a nasty little revolutionary who sits on the sidelines and insults people.

Nor can he vote present.

If I were President Bush, I would tell BOzo I'm sure it was fun continually carping on the "Bush Doctrine" but now it is YOU who is under the microscope.
It's easy to sit on the sidelines and bitch.
obama now has skin in the game.
Not so much fun now.

417 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:26:21pm

re: #267 ggt

Drive time radio was bemoaning the falling prices on barrels of crude how bad it was for the economy. They aren't happy with high crude prices, they aren't happy with low crude prices. WTF?

Huh?

I want to hear or read that.

418 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:27:04pm

I can recall as a younster, maybe 5th or 6th grade, when John Kennedy was running. I attended a Catholic grade school (and eventually a Catholic Boy's High School) in NYC. To this day, I remember the Felician Nuns (Polish order) lecturing us about how we needed a Catholic President. No dissent was allowed, I admitted to supporting Nixon and my parents were called and it was made very clear to them that my tenure as a student would end if they didn't change their politics.

My father took me with him the day he confornted the parish priest (Holy Name Church, on West 95th and Amsterdam Ave. if any NYC lizards recognize it) and confronted him. He threatened to go to the Bishop if this intimidation continued, and he was again threantened. To make a long story short, the priest was transferred, mother superior shut up and never said another word, and I went on to Power Memorial Acadmey for Boys (Catholic) to High School. I was never prouder of my dad the day he stood up to the Catholic church and called them on it.

I find it interesting that even today, so many in the Catholic church can overlook abortion support in favor of socialist polocies. So, long story short, it's not just black teachers, or democrat teachers, its most teachers who try to project their leftist views on others.

419 arethusa  Fri, Nov 7, 2008 4:27:05pm