drink!

Let the down-dings commence!

Testing...

Cheers!

Guinness, for strength.

Too big a price to pay.

Too important a job to give to soemone on the basis of affirmative action.

This is the greatest affirmative action appointment in the history of the world.

I wish we could move past the racism.
But I am seeing just the opposite.

What shall we drink to?

I'm so not racist I don't care.

I feel exactly the same. There is something really cool about the first black president. I just wish it could have been someone not so far left on the ideological spectrum.

My brother is no conness... He's not fussy about what beer he drinks.

Let's just say he buys in 30 packs.

re: #6 Maine's Michael

Too important a job to give to soemone on the basis of affirmative action.

This is the greatest affirmative action appointment in the history of the world.

He had to win the same amount of electoral votes as any other candidate. He won fair and square.

re: #8 logboy

American resolve!

Agree that it's historic, and it's good for the country, but couldn't it have been Michael Steele or Thomas Sowell? Ah well.

That would be well and good if I really believed that Obama's core supporters agreed and would now move forward in the spirit of comity.

Based on their past behavior, let's just say I'm highly suspicious.

re: #8 logboy

Here's to reality. May it quickly trump ideology.

Right on, Charles. It's not the magic bullet and it's not the candidate I'd have wanted as first black POTUS, but I don't begrudge black Americans the satisfaction and pride they're now enjoying.

Wait a minute. Is this a new thread?

How the hell did that happen?

re: #8 logboy

What shall we drink to?

To about 2016. It should be over by then.

I judged him by the content of his political character , not the color of his skin.

I can hear something really big walking through the woods behind my house. Going to grab the 38 special and check it out. BRB

Yes, all the numbers show that white people voted him in. I do not need such proof that my country and the countrymen are great, but some people might have. I voted McCain, but I was overcome with emotion at the historical moment, at the joy of people here and throughout the world, at the smiles on the faces of his two children.

Now, let's fight the socialists with all our might!

But like David Alan Grier said, he better not mess this up.

Yes the election of Obama can be a good thing.

Remember he is half white too, on a DNA level very symbolic.

Now he has to act well, and show he cares for all the citizens.

No more insults, I hope today's was the last.

Obama cannot lead if he insults any of the groups that make up our country.

Ree Ree Ree Ree

Respect

Just a little bit

Arrr Eeee Esss Peee Eeee Ceee Teee

re: #10 FrogMarch

I feel exactly the same. There is something really cool about the first black president. I just wish it could have been someone not so far left on the ideological spectrum.

I thought Bill Clinton was our first black president?

Who knew?

re: #18 Noam Sayin'

Wait a minute. Is this a new thread?

How the hell did that happen?

Uh, Charles pushed a key and clicked his mouse button? Is this a trick question?

Charles, I hope it heals the country and shuts up the Sharptons, Jacksons, and Wrights. I'm on board until talk of reparations starts.

re: #8 logboy

What shall we drink to?

This:

The U.S. military said a senior al-Qaida in Iraq leader has been killed in a weapons cache-clearing operation north of Baghdad.

[Link: www.voanews.com...]

#6 Maine's Michael
You said it. I like Charles' sentiments, but you're right on the money about Affirmative Action. Mr. Obama will most certainly be the Affirmative Action President -- and never did any job need merit more.

Presidents should be respected and given the benefit of the doubt.

Left-wing Moonbats are dirt.

re: #20 Shug

I judged him by the content of his political character , not the color of his skin.

Good. If I judged him by the color of his skin I'd make him go see a doctor.

We would be moving past the racism if the best person had been elected president, and he also happened to be black.

re: #21 bellamags

Don't shoot Sasquatch.

My family pretty much all voted for Obama. They took plenty of opportunity to rub it in, too.

I simply told them, "just wait."

re: #8 logboy

And the absence of moonbatish ODS on the LGF threads!

The loyalty of black people to Obama gives him a great amount of power that he can use for good or evil. He has it in his power to deliver black people from the liberal plantation. I hope he chooses good. I know a lot of his liberal compatriots are hoping he chooses evil.

re: #28 David Simon

[Link: www.voanews.com...]

Hey, thats not far from where I got blown up.

re: #8 logboy

What shall we drink to?

right up to the point just before the dry heaves.

re: #17 Moe Katz

It's not the magic bullet and it's not the candidate I'd have wanted as first black POTUS, but I don't begrudge black Americans the satisfaction and pride they're now enjoying.

I understand it but it does seem odd to me personally. I never get exited when a white person does something. I wouldn't be extra happy if a fellow atheist won an election. I don't really have a group identity, I can't help but view myself as an individual.

re: #33 Ojoe

Don't shoot Sasquatch.

Look to see if he's riding a razorback first, fer gawds sake.

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

And the absence of moonbatish ODS on the LGF threads!

Yes. We should put some effort into not becoming mirror images of the Kos Kidz.

I hope he's able to be a great president...it'll be to our benefit if he does...I hope he proves all my doubts groundless.

Been trying to figure out this weird feeling in my stomach all week. Then I remembered the last time I felt it. 10:15 am, Sept. 11, 2001.

This compulsory work camp thingee is not going well with the basement crowd, nor the business wannabes.

I would have loved to see a black man nominated by the republicans, before the Democrats did...just to see if African Americas would support him.

Would Jesse Jackson have shed a tear if Michael Steele was sworn in as the first Black president?

re: #38 brickthruplateglasswindow

right up to the point just before the dry heaves.

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"

I'm trying to get onboard with the unity, unicorns, and rainbows..
..trying..
eh..who am I kidding..

re: #21 bellamags

I can hear something really big walking through the woods behind my house. Going to grab the 38 special and check it out. BRB

Maybe it's your unicorn?

re: #44 pat

Illegal per 13th amendment.

re: #43 tripletdad

We can hope he got a reality jolt at his national security briefing. He's not an idiot and there's still time for him to face reality.

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I understand it but it does seem odd to me personally. I never get exited when a white person does something. I wouldn't be extra happy if a fellow atheist won an election. I don't really have a group identity, I can't help but view myself as an individual.

I can't really answer that without inviting either the five-minute argument or the ten-minute argument, and I wish neither.

re: #46 logboy

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"

I only have 3 beers, dangit.

I want to think well of Barack Obama, and certainly I do wish him well as a human being, a family man, an American. It is a landmark moment in history, and I hope with all my heart that the genuine wounds still vivid among African American people can begin to truly close, as this remarkable and resilient people, full of heart and light and goodness, all deserve to stand tall.

I just hope Obama gets real. Shitcans the haters, and no one tries to assassinate him or his family. This is no time for extremists, left or right.

re: #48 brickthruplateglasswindow

Maybe it's your unicorn?

nope. just a racoon.

Anybody see Chris Matthews saying that It was his duty to see that Obama does a good job. That as a journalist it was his duty to see that the POTUS succeeds in these difficult times.

Oh man would I have loved to ask him at that moment " Chris, then wasn't it your duty to support George Bush"?

re: #52 gop_patriot

Beer bong! Woohoo!

re: #52 gop_patriot

I only have 3 beers, dangit.

Come on over, I have a few Guinness and Spotted Cow left.

I can't wait until 0bama regulates us into free speech, secures our nation by reducing our military, taxes and spends us into prosperity, and otherwise digs us out of our nation's holes!

I was walking around San Francisco around 8pm on Tuesday night. I had had a nice dinner with friends. I fully expected a McCain loss, but I had not heard any election results yet.
Then, all of a sudden, all the young people started whooping it up. I passed some sturdy looking black men, very well dressed, who were openly weeping.
There was a sense of great joy about.
I am not going to ruin that. Nothing can, really.
All of those young people, they are the ones that will end up paying for all that liberal garbage, my life is on the Extended Warranty period. What do I care. I care a lot, really, but I am not in a position to bitch, not after the fiscal ditch that we find ourselves in presently.
Mr. Obama has my reluctant (and perhaps fleeting) support, up until the point that he goes sideways of the US Constitution, of which he is an admitted and much ballyhooed scholar. I fully expect him to do exactly that, because, that was his very thin platform; "fundamental change".

It is historic. It is great. I just really wish it was someone competent. Let me put this out for thought: What happens when Barry just royally screws this up? I hope he doesn't, but the odds aren't in his favor. What then? Does he get blamed because he is stupid (which knows no color) or do the Affirmative Action jokes start with an underlying meaning of "I knew a black man shouldn't be there"?

re: #54 pat

I just hope Obama gets real. Shitcans the haters, and no one tries to assassinate him or his family. This is no time for extremists, left or right.

That'd be giving up the people with whom he's associated for a very, very long time.

Paul Begala refers to Rep. Rahm Emanuel’s style as a “cross between a hemorrhoid and a toothache.” His stint as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has been notable for his clashes with DNC Chairman Howard Dean over strategy, resources, and the direction of the party.

Full Story.

I hope this brings the black community out into the arena of ideas. I also thing this could be the change African-Americans need to show them that hard work really does pays off. At lest it will leave no more excuses on the table that they cant do anything they want. That is the only change and hope I see.

Keep in mind this is from The Sun...
Bin Laden video alert for Obama

OSAMA Bin Laden is set to release a video threat to Barack Obama, fanatics have warned.

The al-Qaeda chief’s first message in months could come when Mr Obama names his first Cabinet. Hate preacher Omar Bakri led the talk in extremist Arabic chatrooms. He said: “It will be fresh, addressing the Cabinet he chooses.”

In a direct threat, Bakri went on: “We will fight him if he fights against Islam.”

re: #59 gmsc

Taxing and spending into prosperity..

change we can believe in..
/s

Iowahawk had a lot to say about this "historic" moment, catch IowaHawkit:

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

(2nd song)

re: #37 logboy

Hey, thats not far from where I got blown up.

I cannot begin to convey the hatred I have in my heart for the people who did that to you and your fellow servicemen.

re: #61 ArmyWife

It is historic. It is great. I just really wish it was someone competent. Let me put this out for thought: What happens when Barry just royally screws this up? I hope he doesn't, but the odds aren't in his favor. What then? Does he get blamed because he is stupid (which knows no color) or do the Affirmative Action jokes start with an underlying meaning of "I knew a black man shouldn't be there"?

I'll knock those down pretty quickly 'cause it's the content of his character that should've prevented him from being elected.

Some kind of crap going on with the bro's computer. Every time I try to reply to a comment I get sent back out to the front of the house.

re: #45 Shug

Pointing to the Oreo Cookie incident, my answer here would need to be NO.

re: #61 ArmyWife

It is historic. It is great. I just really wish it was someone competent. Let me put this out for thought: What happens when Barry just royally screws this up? I hope he doesn't, but the odds aren't in his favor. What then? Does he get blamed because he is stupid (which knows no color) or do the Affirmative Action jokes start with an underlying meaning of "I knew a black man shouldn't be there"?

It is an interesting question. If 0bama screws up (and appointing a former head of Freddie Mac is a worrying indication), how will it affect the chances of future black candidates, regardless of party and/or philosophy?

re: #65 Killgore Trout

"You did it! The plan worked just as we thought!"

/I keed, I keed.

re: #54 pat

Agree 100 per cent

re: #65 Killgore Trout

*gasp* How could this be?

re: #43 tripletdad

Been trying to figure out this weird feeling in my stomach all week. Then I remembered the last time I felt it. 10:15 am, Sept. 11, 2001.

The markets are more jumpy now.

re: #69 David Simon

I cannot begin to convey the hatred I have in my heart for the people who did that to you and your fellow servicemen.

Well, in my case you can blame Iran. The trigger-man was an Iranian weapons expert.

re: #71 Noam Sayin'

Some kind of crap going on with the bro's computer. Every time I try to reply to a comment I get sent back out to the front of the house.

Refresh the next time you get back to the comment page.

Want to believe this...but I am unsure.

Never thought we wouldn't elect a Black Man. Because for me race is irrelevant as is sex and religion...though the latter can be relevant if it is ideology over faith.
But to vote for a black man simply to put it behind us is just wrong. It is the Peter Principle run amok.

I thought we should vote for the best person...that is all. And I do think that many in this country believe that as well. Many of those who don't wish to be racist voted for race.
It will never be behind us because too many people always want to hone in on the differences between us instead of focusing in on the similarities.

re: #73 gmsc

It is an interesting question. If 0bama screws up (and appointing a former head of Freddie Mac is a worrying indication), how will it affect the chances of future black candidates, regardless of party and/or philosophy?

/

I think the press will undermine Rahm for him and rid him of a tiresome Zionist

A couple of times lately lizards have made comments along the lines of "if he screws up that'll be the last black president elected for a long time." If people are saying that, racism IS NOT dead.

I also think this is a great thing. I also think it's going to be the beginning of a very painful change for the black community; they have been held down, by people in their own community who tell them that they are being held down. This presents a mountainous challenge for them to live with the proof that determination produces results ~ BIG results. And that YES THEY CAN, largely without the "safety net" of presumed victimhood.
/I hope that came out right.

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Keep in mind this is from The Sun...
Bin Laden video alert for Obama

That reminds me of this image.

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I understand it but it does seem odd to me personally. I never get exited when a white person does something. I wouldn't be extra happy if a fellow atheist won an election. I don't really have a group identity, I can't help but view myself as an individual.

I wasn't particularly upset when Joe Lieberman didn't become Vice-President. Then again, I did vote against him...

re: #57 joncelli

lol!

re: #58 logboy

Yay! How far are you from Arkansas? ;)

/I'm hoping hubby buys more beer on the way home from work, three beers are not enough to share

For some it will never be enough to get past the 400 yrs of what "we" did.

When he can't/won't deliver then they will blame the others around him. And if the next 4 yrs are a total screw up then "we" will never forget.

It is a great thing for the country to have a first black prez but not this guy, he just wasn't ready.

re: #70 MandyManners

I agree. I wish this wasn't even a topic. I want people to be like me, I don't give to hoots what color you are, so long as you are a decent human being. But the world doesn't work according to my plan. This election is proof positive of that!

re: #82 Moe Katz

A couple of times lately lizards have made comments along the lines of "if he screws up that'll be the last black president elected for a long time." If people are saying that, racism IS NOT dead.

i haven't read anything like that.

It's never enough. Whatever you do to accommodate the Left, it's never enough. Bush proposes a new plan, and the Dems respond that it's not enough. A Black president will not be enough.

I remain hopeful, but it'll be rough.

re: #87 Big Boots that's boots

For some it will never be enough to get past the 400 yrs of what "we" did.

When he can't/won't deliver then they will blame the others around him. And if the next 4 yrs are a total screw up then "we" will never forget.

It is a great thing for the country to have a first black prez but not this guy, he just wasn't ready.

The Powell of yore, not Barry's poodle, would have made a sounder choice

re: #89 bellamags

i haven't read anything like that.

Are we reading the same blog?

Rush on with Greta right now. A must listen.

"...a small, flawed step into a promising future." Not to sound like a suck-up but that's very well said and sums up my feelings as well.

It's been a long, really historic week of historical events. I'm tired and tired of it. Now I'm going to watch the Simpsons and then go to bed. No milk. No cookies.

re: #79 MandyManners

That appears to be working. A little hackneyed, but I guess it beats not replying to anyone and being thought of as a jerkass.

Still, I might download FireFox for him.

re: #93 JammieWearingFool

Thanks for the heads up.

re: #92 Moe Katz

Are we reading the same blog?

yes

Taking questions today from fauning reporters...he must have said..uh, uh, uh, uh 1000 times...I had to turn the channel.

That said, I never want to hear a black person cry racism or play the victim card ever again...it's personal responsibility forever, from Nov 4th on...!

re: #87 Big Boots that's boots

"We" also fought and died in the Civil War to free our black brothers and sisters.

After that, we should have been arm and arm forever.

It saddens me to think it could ever have been otherwise.

I will be happy if this ushers in a new era of black leaders. The Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton types need to go.

...this is a small, flawed step into a promising future.

"Watch that foist step, Doc. It's a lulu!"
--Bugs Bunny

re: #92 Moe Katz

Show me a link. Are you referring to my post, out of curiosity? Because that isn't what I said.

re: #88 ArmyWife

I agree. I wish this wasn't even a topic. I want people to be like me, I don't give to hoots what color you are, so long as you are a decent human being. But the world doesn't work according to my plan. This election is proof positive of that!

I'm still hoping that I'll go to bed and wake up to find that I've been having a nightmare since Monday night.

re: #82 Moe Katz

A couple of times lately lizards have made comments along the lines of "if he screws up that'll be the last black president elected for a long time." If people are saying that, racism IS NOT dead.

Actually, I'm more interested in the question. Granted, future Republican black presidents will have trouble getting Democrat votes, and vice-versa.

Who knows? 0bama may screw up, lose the 2012 election, and maybe a black Republican candidate wins in that same election, or the next election. In that case, question answered!

(Granted, it wouldn't be Alan Keyes, but still . . . ;) )

Keep in mind, there are many presumptions here. What if 0bama doesn't screw up in the first place?

To hell with what the rest of the world thinks. When I cast my vote...it was for the person who had MY nation's interests at heart,,,not the rest of the planet.

And GOD BLESS AMERICA for electing a black man to the highest office in the land (even if he was the wrong black man).

re: #96 Noam Sayin'

That appears to be working. A little hackneyed, but I guess it beats not replying to anyone and being thought of as a jerkass.

Still, I might download FireFox for him.

I recently downloaded FireFox and boy, what an improvement!

re: #104 MandyManners

It's worse, you'll find that you're plugged into the Matrix.

I've been looking over the Obama agenda at his new change.gov site.
What a relief it was when I found that the Obama/Biden administration will eliminate the disparity between sentencing crack and powder-based cocaine as part of its Civil Right initiative.
Oh what a happy day that will be.

re: #105 gmsc

Too late for that, I'm afraid.

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

re: #103 ArmyWife

Show me a link. Are you referring to my post, out of curiosity? Because that isn't what I said.

No, I'm referring to two previous ones. I don't remember well enough to link them, but I'm not recanting on having seen them. My response to the first one was that we wouldn't refuse to elect another white guy because a previous Caucasian pres screwed up.

re: #100 Ojoe

And "we" or ME - I'm 2nd generation from Europe, my family had nothing to do with it. Does that count?

Sure enough, there they go.

re: #104 MandyManners

I'm still hoping that I'll go to bed and wake up to find that I've been having a nightmare since Monday night.

ya got that right!

re: #10 FrogMarch

I feel exactly the same. There is something really cool about the first black president. I just wish it could have been someone not so far left on the ideological spectrum.

And to that I would add that I wish it could have been someone who didn't make race such a huge anchor of his campaign. Don't want to be taxed into poverty? You're racist! Wanted to know more about his associations? Racist! Don't agree with [insert Obama policy here] ? RACIST!

Feh.

Charles, I agree with your post. The country first part, and all that.

I just wonder if the Democrats will really allow Americans to move past racism, such a convenient political tool it is for them.

re: #106 UberInfidel67

Obama is Black AND White

Even saying he is black is not where we want to be

re: #106 UberInfidel67

To hell with what the rest of the world thinks. When I cast my vote...it was for the person who had MY nation's interests at heart,,,not the rest of the planet.

And GOD BLESS AMERICA for electing a black man to the highest office in the land (even if he was the wrong black man).

Electing the wrong man is never a cause for joy and never a blessing.

I think Iowahawk got the matter right, myself.

re: #108 mitthrawnurdo

It's worse, you'll find that you're plugged into the Matrix.

As long as CBBHO isn't president...

He will certainly be challenged during most of his presidency, that's for sure. I pray he acts with prudence and governs wisely.

I also hope that any sense of victimization residual in the hearts and minds of black America is assuaged. Mr Obama can do a great many things to speed this along if he will realize that he was elected to serve all of the 300 million plus citizens of this country, and not just the 63 million who voted for him.

I wish him well and will pray for him, as I have done for GWB. But I will not hesitate to criticize him for actions that warrant it.

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Keep in mind this is from The Sun...
Bin Laden video alert for Obama

Just a reminder to let him know who the boss is.

re: #111 Charles

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

Why in the world would anyone ding you down for your OP?

re: #86 gop_patriot

lol!

re: #58 logboy

Yay! How far are you from Arkansas? ;)

/I'm hoping hubby buys more beer on the way home from work, three beers are not enough to share

The land of Beer, Cheese, and Mandy Manners: Wisconsin. I've been stuck on Spotted Cow lately. But if I have a choice, its Guinness on tap. As my friend once said, "Only pussies drink beer you can see through."

re: #111 Charles

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

I've had my shots. :-)

re: #111 Charles

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

Ding you down for saying you'll be dinged down?

re: #111 Charles

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

what's this all about? Is this some kind of Friday night ritual?

Barak Obama will be my next president.

Jimmy Carter was once my president. Jimmy Carter's presidency is generally considered as one of the greatest failures during the course of this countries history.

Barak Obama sounds similar to Jimmy Carter on too many issues to count. He is about to implement policies that have been widely understood to be failures: windfall profits taxes, and so on. In doing so, he is going to damage our economy far more than if he simply left well enough alone.

Barak Obama's foreign policy is not well known. It is known that he takes advice from sources that Jimmy Carter had taken advice from, with disastrous results.

My voting for McCain had nothing to do with Obama's race. It had to do with who I thought would do a better job running the country. Watching McCain's concession speech, we saw a man of class and composure, attempting to avoid doing with the liberals did 8 years ago. They couldn't fathom that they had lost, and fought a 5th column battle against the legitimate government during that time.

Now McCain has short circuited any similar action on the part of conservatives. This was a good thing for the country that he did so. We don't need 4 more years of liberal-like animosity on the part of republicans or conservatives.

But Obama troubles me. At a fundamental deep level. His trashing of Joe the plumber after running in to him. His minions trashing of Joe the plumber showed me the utter contempt he holds me and every other "Joe" out there.

I am a small business owner, in the range of income that will be directly impacted by his proposed tax increase. And you know what, I am going to have to make hard choices if this gets enacted. My hard choices are going to be pay another person, or reduce headcount to pay these higher taxes. And if I raise my voice about it, the media will descend upon my ass and remind me of an overdue library book from 20 years ago.

Charles, I agree, country first. With great trepidation do I look forward to an Obama presidency. Knowing what he stands for, knowing that his hands on on the levers of power, and knowing how much these levers needed a calm and non-ideological guiding hand to get us out of our current quagmire ... fills me with dread at what the next 4 years will bring. Knowing that it took more than a decade to undo the damage of the failed Carter administration, a fair number of Obama advisors count on their resume as 'valuable experience'.

I don't look at race. I don't look at religion. I look at character. We just elected a celebrity. And we are going to get what we deserve by doing so.

It is, IMO, just as racist to vote for a person due to the color of their skin as it is to vote against a person due to the color of their skin. The same is true for their religion, creed, age, national origin, sexual orientation, and so on. Discrimination, in any form is repugnant.

Mr. Obama is a gifted orator when he has a teleprompter. Shortly he will be in a position he has never been in before, doing things he doesn't really know how to do. And we already see the tests lining up for him.

Is he up to the task?

We better hope so, because like it or not, we are stuck with him for the next four years.

re: #120 Tigger2005

I think Iowahawk got the matter right, myself.

me too

re: #115 outsidephilly

ya got that right!

Today was the first day since Wednesday that I didn't get out of bed dreading the future.

I think it's great we have moved past the "first black President" milestone, but it would have never come from any other party than the democrats.

It always amazes me how the democrats are the party of minorities, even though they have been pushing for social programs for 40 years to help these people get better. A lot of good that is doing.

The funny (odd, not ha-ha) thing is...I keep hearing how symbolic electing a black president is. Okay.

My experience is that a symbolic gesture is usually an emotional feel-good activity for the dim-witted and does nothing to actually solve the problem at hand. (In our case, competently running the most powerful republic on the planet.)

Hmmm...I wonder if atheists equate me offering to pray for them as a similar symbolic gesture?

Need more rum.

re: #105 gmsc

Actually, I'm more interested in the question. Granted, future Republican black presidents will have trouble getting Democrat votes, and vice-versa.

Who knows? 0bama may screw up, lose the 2012 election, and maybe a black Republican candidate wins in that same election, or the next election. In that case, question answered!

(Granted, it wouldn't be Alan Keyes, but still . . . ;) )

Keep in mind, there are many presumptions here. What if 0bama doesn't screw up in the first place?

Actually didn't mean your post either. These two posts were on previous days. My point is just that if the public holds it against blacks that a black man was a bad president then they are engaging in racist thinking. Obama's performance will reflect on himself, on Democrats, whatever, but not on people of color per se.

re: #123 JammieWearingFool

I checked around and nobody else is talking about a new Ossama tape. There was talk of one before the election but it never showed up. Maybe the Ossama impersonator quit.

re: #101 Killgore Trout

I will be happy if this ushers in a new era of black leaders. The Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton types need to go.

We had the same hopes in NYC when Dinkins was elected.

Sharpton became de facto mayor for four years.

The only difference I can see between Dinkins and Obama is Dinkins had a better tennis game.

re: #34 Noam Sayin'

My family pretty much all voted for Obama. They took plenty of opportunity to rub it in, too.

I simply told them, "just wait."

Buyer's remorse. Fortunately, most of us didn't "pay" for it, but we're going to.

re: #111 Charles

No. I agree with you so I dinged you up.

I was talking on the phone to a black gal at some building product company two days ago, just getting some boring information about ceiling lights and you could hear the overflowing happiness in her voice. At the end we said "God Bless" to each other, not usually said at the end of a business call.

Good Night All.

re: #112 Moe Katz

You are using logic here for an illogical situation. It's silly that the color of a person's skin is even at issue. But that is what we have, and prejudice does exist. I think this would be a convenient excuse for those that do harbor these thoughts, especially for those that harbor them in the great recesses of their minds.

That being said, Palin/Steele '12!

re: #131 MandyManners

Today was the first day since Wednesday that I didn't get out of bed dreading the future.

Interesting you would say that . . . , I've struggled through these last few days, also!

re: #124 MandyManners

Why in the world would anyone ding you down for your OP?

Ask Aslan's Girl, MattMacD, and rboa.

I promise to show Obama as much respect as was shown to Bush.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some paper mache to take care of.

I think I have a candidate for my Unintelligent Design logo.

Winner of the Unintelligent Design Contest

Category: Prime Stream
Posted on: September 18, 2006 5:42 AM, by Selva

Ladies and gentlemen! The Flounder!

re: #140 outsidephilly

Interesting you would say that . . . , I've struggled through these last few days, also!

My molars are tender from grinding them. Not good.

re: #136 JammieWearingFool

Yeah, I'm afraid we're stuck with Jackson and Sharpton for a while.

re: #142 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I promise to show Obama as much respect as was shown to Bush.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some paper mache to take care of.

just poop

re: #120 Tigger2005

I think Iowahawk got the matter right, myself.

He definitely did. That was a brilliantly written piece.

re: #135 Killgore Trout

I checked around and nobody else is talking about a new Ossama tape. There was talk of one before the election but it never showed up. Maybe the Ossama impersonator quit.

I'm wondering why Bakri is still drawing breath.

If McCain was leading coming into last weekend we'd probably have heard a tape.

re: #141 CyanSnowHawk

Ask Aslan's Girl, MattMacD, and rboa.

I don't think I've seen those assholes post.

re: #114 Charles

Sure enough, there they go.

Sure enough. Three people we've never heard from.

I really don't care about Obama's race. I'm not moved by his election because of it. I was raised to see beyond race. MLK dreamt of it and I lived it.

My parents had their odd moments and it always caught me by surprise. That's how color blind we were -- if they seemed to notice race I was shocked. My high school in the 70's was an odd melting pot that did have self-segregation on cultural grounds, but nothing codified, of course, and everyone got along really well.

About six years ago National Geographic did a piece on my high school and it had become a hotbed of anti-white sentiments and racial polarization.

Every decade should have been better. It's only gotten worse as race has become an industry and pride in assimilation has become resistance to Americanization.

I can't be proud of the election of Barack Obama because I honestly don't care about the color of a person's skin. I'm horrified by the election of an openly socialist manipulator who has never succeeded in a leadership position in his life.

If Hillary Clinton had been elected I'd have felt similarly. Who cares about her gender? I care about her policies.

If Sarah Palin had been elected I'd have been thrilled. Not because she's a she, but because she's an outstanding American who views freedom as a must for the prosperity of this country.

I'm proud of my country every day, even on the day we elect the worst administration imaginable.

Country First, absolutely. Race in and of itself is not a foundation or justification for pride.

Just my $.02.

re: #131 MandyManners

Today was the first day since Wednesday that I didn't get out of bed dreading the future.

So you are saying he may just be a pompous CLintonesque asshole and not a dangerous disastrous Carter varietal?

I agree with your last sentence. But I cannot say I agree with the rest. In time, we shall see.

re: #138 Ojoe

No. I agree with you so I dinged you up.

I was talking on the phone to a black gal at some building product company two days ago, just getting some boring information about ceiling lights and you could hear the overflowing happiness in her voice. At the end we said "God Bless" to each other, not usually said at the end of a business call.

Good Night All.

That's sweet. :)
Another silver lining. Maybe there is something to this proud to be an American thing - better late than never, yes?

re: #152 SpartanWoman

So you are saying he may just be a pompous CLintonesque asshole and not a dangerous disastrous Carter varietal?

Both.

Country first.

See, that cuts to the root of my problem I don't think Obama feels that way. I think he sees himself as a world leader , not just of the USA. I trust him to make decisions based on what he thinks is best for the world, not our country.

re: #144 MandyManners

My molars are tender from grinding them. Not good.

don't grind, you will only make your jaw hurt.

re: #131 MandyManners

Today was the first day since Wednesday that I didn't get out of bed dreading the future.

I couldn't bring myself to come back here until this evening. Disappointment, disillusionment... Regaining perspective takes a little time.

re: #149 MandyManners

I don't think I've seen those assholes post.

Neither have I.

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm afraid we're stuck with Jackson and Sharpton for a while.

One thing I'll say for Al Sharpton - he trimmed up. I need to find out how he did it, because I need to lose some weight myself.

Sorry but this is no great step toward healing any racial problems. The whole idea of a "first black" president will never change people's hearts or minds. The only way to fix racial tensions is for people to start treating each other as humans... NOT A COLOR!

We have now had 40 years of state and federal government enforced discrimination. Ending the current discriminatory laws will be a mark of real progress, not some empty symbolic act.

Rueters UK: Wall Street Has Worst-Election-Week-Ever

This lists every post-election 3-day percentage rise and fall in the Dow back to McKinley, in the S&P back to Hoover, and in the Nasdaq back to Nixon.

After 0bama's election, the Dow and the S&P dropped the most it ever has in those 3 days, and the Nasdaq experienced a percentage drop this week that is only second to the week of the undecided Bush/Gore 2000 election.

Night all. I am going to go read, its been quite the week!

Not because it will make the rest of the world like us. Because we need to move past the hatred and the racism and the atavism, and this is a small, flawed step into a promising future.

I'm with you on that. But, why is he considered the first "black" President when he's half white? I don't get it. Is the black half more important than the white half? Why do we even focus on skin color?

Thanks for letting us vent a day before this thread.

re: #157 outsidephilly

don't grind, you will only make your jaw hurt.

I'm doing it in my sleep. I'm gonna' hafta' get a mouth guard if this continues.

Hey Mandy, did you get any snow over there today?

I'd never down-ding ya, Charles, but on THIS subject, I think Iowahawk said it better:

[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

Allow me to stir the pot...
If Obama is doing a passable job and the Republicans nominate someone like Jindal or Palin in 2012. I will vote Obama.

re: #99 Osama Bin Asshat

Taking questions today from fauning reporters...he must have said..uh, uh, uh, uh 1000 times...I had to turn the channel.

That said, I never want to hear a black person cry racism or play the victim card ever again...it's personal responsibility forever, from Nov 4th on...!

Any criticism of Obama will, a priori, be construed as racism.

re: #158 Opilio

I couldn't bring myself to come back here until this evening. Disappointment, disillusionment... Regaining perspective takes a little time.

This place helped me hold it together.

re: #83 Magalaga Ding Dong

I also think this is a great thing. I also think it's going to be the beginning of a very painful change for the black community; they have been held down, by people in their own community who tell them that they are being held down. This presents a mountainous challenge for them to live with the proof that determination produces results ~ BIG results. And that YES THEY CAN, largely without the "safety net" of presumed victimhood.
/I hope that came out right.

I understand what you're saying and agree with it completely. This is a huge chance for people to realize they don't have to accept being told they're victims and giving up because they've been told that. If Obama can change the horrible legacy of that mentality, he will have done a world of good.

But he's going to have to fight Jackson, Sharpton, and all the others who depend on that mentality to maintain their own status and power.

Symbolism over substance from the democratic/liberals is the standard m.o. and usually proves harmless silly and hardly worth mentioning. Unless of course they raise my taxes, then they call all shove symbolism up their ass.

re: #159 CyanSnowHawk

Neither have I.

Utter chickenshits.

OK, I'm gonna come right out and admit it.

I'm a Racist.

NASCAR SUCKS.

//

re: #160 Cattt

One thing I'll say for Al Sharpton - he trimmed up.

Did he? I haven't seen him for quite a while.

Sleep well, Lizards! I'm off for the night.

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Allow me to stir the pot...
If Obama is doing a passable job and the Republicans nominate someone like Jindal or Palin in 2012. I will vote Obama.

Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

re: #163 ArmyWife

Sweet dreams!

It's all about the job performance.

re: #166 logboy

Hey Mandy, did you get any snow over there today?

We don't get snow.

re: #165 MandyManners

I'm doing it in my sleep. I'm gonna' hafta' get a mouth guard if this continues.

time for me to get my beauty sleep . . . , 'night all!

As I said Tuesday after 0bama won:

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

So sorry, but it appears your fellow Republicans lost that battle, Rev. King.

re: #174 lummox

OK, I'm gonna come right out and admit it.

I'm a Racist.

NASCAR SUCKS.

//

Yeah, that was one of the most boring CGI movies I've ever seen, with all those animal characters you never wind up caring about . . . oh, wait, that was MADAGASCAR.

re: #45 Shug

I think this is where the brass in the RNC has been very weak.

This country has more than enough black people who have conservative leanings, and could be a great fit into the party.

Until, they make a major outreach for this constituency, the Republicans could elect the absolute best candidate ever, who also happens to be black, and he will instantly be reduced to Uncle Tom status upon his or her entrance into the race.

The Dems have a lock on this voting group, and it is almost a Pavlovian reaction for the opposition upon even the hint of someone who is black might be on the ticket.

They need to bring more of this community into the fold.

re: #177 Cattt

I just couldn't do it this time but if he proves to be a competent leader I'll feel much more comfortable with it.

re: #180 MandyManners

We don't get snow.

I get it. Snow is white, therefore its racist.

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Allow me to stir the pot...
If Obama is doing a passable job and the Republicans nominate someone like Jindal or Palin in 2012. I will vote Obama.

if he's doing a good, or even a passable job in 2012, I don't think they will nominate somebody young.

they'll thaw out some sacrificial lamb with no political future.

re: #125 logboy

The land of Beer, Cheese, and Mandy Manners: Wisconsin. I've been stuck on Spotted Cow lately. But if I have a choice, its Guinness on tap. As my friend once said, "Only pussies drink beer you can see through."

Isn't Mama Winger in WI? Y'all should have a lizard meetup sometime. :)

That Spotted Cow beer sounds good; I'm drinking regular old Dos Equis Amber tonight. Not a huge fan of really dark beer, so I guess that makes me..!

/I'm a woman X)

bbiab

re: #131 MandyManners

Today was the first day since Wednesday that I didn't get out of bed dreading the future.

Me too. I attribute it to LGF and not watching the news.

re: #175 Killgore Trout

Did he? I haven't seen him for quite a while.

Yeah, he has lost quite a bit of weight. He appears pretty often on Fox - saw him a week or two ago, and he is very trim now.

re: #183 gmsc

Yeah, that was one of the most boring CGI movies I've ever seen, with all those animal characters you never wind up caring about . . . oh, wait, that was MADAGASCAR.

OOPs, yer right, What the heck was I thinkin'?

The era of racial harmony has arrived...
The N-bomb is dropped on black passersby at Prop 8 protests

re: #184 formercorpsman

Before I sign off for the night, what do you mean by saying, Boy, you are in for an upset. . . , is a tornado coming my way?

re: #151 kynna

I really don't care about Obama's race. I'm not moved by his election because of it. I was raised to see beyond race. MLK dreamt of it and I lived it.
... ... ...
I'm proud of my country every day, even on the day we elect the worst administration imaginable.

Country First, absolutely. Race in and of itself is not a foundation or justification for pride.

Precisely. I only regret that I have but one up-ding to give to your comment.

re: #64 Harmon

I also think this could be the change African-Americans need to show them that hard work really does pays off.

Well, Obama certainly put in less work than other presidents, with his 140 days or whatever his effective experience as a legislator was. This may send the opposite message that community.

re: #139 ArmyWife

You are using logic here for an illogical situation. It's silly that the color of a person's skin is even at issue. But that is what we have, and prejudice does exist. I think this would be a convenient excuse for those that do harbor these thoughts, especially for those that harbor them in the great recesses of their minds.

That being said, Palin/Steele '12!

I agree. You are describing the existence of these sentiments, not endorsing them. The lizard with whom I took issue a few weeks ago was more like, "if he screws up that'll be it for a long time." He/she was clearly expressing his/her own feelings. Obviously, some people still think that way, so racism persists...

Again, no intention on my part to ascribe racist sentiments to you personally. :)

re: #187 Shug

Interesting prospect. I have no Idea where the Republicans are heading.

re: #188 gop_patriot

Isn't Mama Winger in WI? Y'all should have a lizard meetup sometime. :)

That Spotted Cow beer sounds good; I'm drinking regular old Dos Equis Amber tonight. Not a huge fan of really dark beer, so I guess that makes me..!

/I'm a woman X)

Hmmm... you're right. I confused Mandy with Mama. Oops.

re: #174 lummox

OK, I'm gonna come right out and admit it.

I'm a Racist.

NASCAR SUCKS.

//

Blasphemy! (Although, I agree.) Go fast, turn left. Not really much of a sport, innit?

re: #190 livefreeor die

And how are you and the baby feeling today?

"We are perpetually being told that what is wanted is a strong man who will do things. What is really wanted is a strong man who will undo things; and that will be the real test of strength." —G.K. Chesterton

re: #185 Killgore Trout

I just couldn't do it this time but if he proves to be a competent leader I'll feel much more comfortable with it.

To quote Mel Brooks: "Hope for the Best. Expect the worst."

re: #202 lummox

"We are perpetually being told that what is wanted is a strong man who will do things. What is really wanted is a strong man who will undo things; and that will be the real test of strength." —G.K. Chesterton

Updinged! Only once, alas.

re: #201 outsidephilly

And how are you and the baby feeling today?

Much better, thank you. Not watching news has helped as has the stupid mandatory service proposal getting my Irish blood up and fighting again. LGF has been the most therapeutic part of the week.

I just applied for a job with BHO at change.gov. Wait til they get a load of me. The manchurian lizard.

re: #174 lummox

OK, I'm gonna come right out and admit it.

I'm a Racist.

NASCAR SUCKS.

//

Formula 1 is the master race.

re: #202 lummox

Strange how often we get a weak man who fills in by busily doing things.

re: #205 livefreeor die

Much better, thank you. Not watching news has helped as has the stupid mandatory service proposal getting my Irish blood up and fighting again. LGF has been the most therapeutic part of the week.

ain't that the truth!

The one positive thing about this election is that new people voted. I have seen precincts on certain sides of town that have 2% turn-out in off cycle elections. That's hideous. So now that people have voted, they are invested in the process and can take a higher interest in how gov't works. I think the whole experience will make us better, eventually.

Just wait till the honeymoon is over.

re: #125 logboy

The land of Beer, Cheese, and Mandy Manners: Wisconsin. I've been stuck on Spotted Cow lately. But if I have a choice, its Guinness on tap. As my friend once said, "Only pussies drink beer you can see through."

My favorite microbrewer is Ommegang out of Cooperstown. Their brewmaster was the first American knighted by the Belgium brewer's guild. He has since moved back to the midwest and is the brewmaster at New Glarus brewery in Wisconsin. Spotted Cow is brewed by New Glarus, so I can understand why you would like it.

re: #5 logboy

Guinness, for strength.

Jameson for beauty. Drink enough and HRC starts to look good.

Cripes. To think we might be wishing she had actually won. Eww.

re: #193 Killgore Trout

The era of racial harmony has arrived...
The N-bomb is dropped on black passersby at Prop 8 protests

Wow... slightly contradictory to what others are saying.

re: #190 livefreeor die

Me too. I attribute it to LGF and not watching the news.

Me, too. I gave up watching Fox in the evenings. They are not trustworthy.

We get snow - often on top of, and covered by, a nasty layer of black ice.

/God. My PC voice in the back of my head is yelling "oh no - black ice---" Shut up, PC voice.

re: #111 Charles

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

I won't ding you down, but judging by his first few possible cabinet member's names that have been floated out by the MSM, and Emmanuel as COS, he'll be a total disaster as President, and we'll all pay for it.

But like I've said before, if it wasn't for the radical judges he'll pick, let the democrats win, and control all three branches of the government.

In two years they'll make the 1994 "Gingrich revolution" look like a mi-newt error in judging what the American people want their government to be, and they will be forced to purge the Soros/moveon.org radicals from their party if they want to have any relevency whatsoever after.

re: #212 yah

Just wait till the honeymoon is over.

Geez, I thought after the stuff about Emmanuel and Freddie Mac and the Nancy Reagan comment, the honeymoon was over.

re: #208 leereyno

We're not there yet.

re: #207 Moe Katz

Formula 1 SCCA Pro Rally is the master race.

Fixed.

re: #205 livefreeor die

I wish you were on the last thread, read my #623

re: #135 Killgore Trout

I checked around and nobody else is talking about a new Ossama tape. There was talk of one before the election but it never showed up. Maybe the Ossama impersonator quit.

They've got to go back to the studio and do a remix. /

Seriously though, I think that we've figured out their distribution chain and have nailed 'em again. We blocked the release of an AQ tape around 9/11 this year, and that got 'em all flummoxed. We might have done it again.

re: #111 Charles

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

Don't say that to a vampire! :D

re: #211 ratherdashing

The one positive thing about this election is that new people voted. I have seen precincts on certain sides of town that have 2% turn-out in off cycle elections. That's hideous. So now that people have voted, they are invested in the process and can take a higher interest in how gov't works. I think the whole experience will make us better, eventually.

But how many dead people voted? Who had the biggest zombie constituency? That's what I want to know.

I know I posted about me being attacked verbally for being white and voting for McCain. Now things are getting worse. In my town we never have issues like this, but today alone we have had 2 fights with someone calling a white person racist. One ever called the cops, and they said the person was crazy. That there was nothing wrong. She was screaming about a parking spot of all things.

re: #152 SpartanWoman

So you are saying he may just be a pompous CLintonesque asshole and not a dangerous disastrous Carter varietal?

I'm still terrified that he will make us long for the days of Carter. And yes, I remember them well.

re: #111 Charles

I expect people to ding me down for this. Go ahead, ding me down. Then bite me.

I don't know about y'all . . . , you people have strange Friday night requests!

re: #151 kynna

I really don't care about Obama's race. I'm not moved by his election because of it. I was raised to see beyond race. MLK dreamt of it and I lived it.

My parents had their odd moments and it always caught me by surprise. That's how color blind we were -- if they seemed to notice race I was shocked. My high school in the 70's was an odd melting pot that did have self-segregation on cultural grounds, but nothing codified, of course, and everyone got along really well.

About six years ago National Geographic did a piece on my high school and it had become a hotbed of anti-white sentiments and racial polarization.

Every decade should have been better. It's only gotten worse as race has become an industry and pride in assimilation has become resistance to Americanization.

I can't be proud of the election of Barack Obama because I honestly don't care about the color of a person's skin. I'm horrified by the election of an openly socialist manipulator who has never succeeded in a leadership position in his life.

If Hillary Clinton had been elected I'd have felt similarly. Who cares about her gender? I care about her policies.

If Sarah Palin had been elected I'd have been thrilled. Not because she's a she, but because she's an outstanding American who views freedom as a must for the prosperity of this country.

I'm proud of my country every day, even on the day we elect the worst administration imaginable.

Country First, absolutely. Race in and of itself is not a foundation or justification for pride.

Just my $.02.

Good analysis. Be proud that your country can elect a black man for president. We did it before many other countries who have the hypocrisy to call us racist.

But just as Germany may have been open-minded in allowing an Austrian to become their Chancellor in the 1930s, I wish we had made a much better choice of the man himself, regardless of his racial or national background.

Just curious,

does all of the OMY profiles on signs, shirts, et al remind you of Lenin, Stalin, or Saddam murals (sp?) on the sides of everything?

If he screws up, I'll say he was a Dem, so what do you expect?

re: #184 formercorpsman

I think this is where the brass in the RNC has been very weak.

This country has more than enough black people who have conservative leanings, and could be a great fit into the party.

Until, they make a major outreach for this constituency, the Republicans could elect the absolute best candidate ever, who also happens to be black, and he will instantly be reduced to Uncle Tom status upon his or her entrance into the race.

The Dems have a lock on this voting group, and it is almost a Pavlovian reaction for the opposition upon even the hint of someone who is black might be on the ticket.

They need to bring more of this community into the fold.

If Obama turns out to be as incompetent as I believe he will be, then the GOP leadership will have a golden opportunity to win some black voters, but my guess is that they will drop the ball yet again.

People who annoy you

re: #63 logboy

Paul Begala refers to Rep. Rahm Emanuel’s style as a “cross between a hemorrhoid and a toothache.” His stint as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has been notable for his clashes with DNC Chairman Howard Dean over strategy, resources, and the direction of the party.

Full Story.

John Fund thinks the real target in RE's sights is Congress.

Pollster Doug Schoen, who helped Bill Clinton win re-election in 1996 over overwhelming odds after the 1994 Democratic debacle, recently warned in a Journal op-ed: "If the Democrats govern as if there is no Republican Party, they are likely headed to the kind of reaction that Bill Clinton faced when he made the same misjudgment after the 1992 election victory." Mr. Schoen cites specifically a meeting in Little Rock after the election with Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell and House Speaker Tom Foley, when Mr. Clinton agreed to defer to Congress on key elements of his legislative agenda. The subsequent lurch to the left did incalculable damage to his presidency.

That may be one reason why Mr. Obama has chosen Rahm Emanuel, a respected member of the Congressional leadership, to become his new White House Chief of Staff. Mr. Emanuel has a reputation as a tough partisan, but he has also exhibited impatience with left-wing members of his party who have overly ambitious ideological agendas. A likely first assignment for Mr. Emanuel will be reminding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid that, after only two years of Democratic control, Congress already has a lower approval rating than even President Bush's.

The WSJ editorial board also supports him for that reason:

Republicans are howling about Barack Obama's choice of Rahm Emanuel as his White House chief of staff, claiming the Illinois Congressman is a rough partisan who belies Mr. Obama's campaign rhetoric about comity and bipartisanship.

For our part, we like the choice. Mr. Emanuel is likely to be a restraining influence on the wackier Members of Congress.

Stinky Beaumont, white discourtesy phone.

re: #218 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If the media were to start doing its job now (not that they did during this entire campaign - and they're self-admittedly in the tank for Obama), Emanuel wouldn't be the CoS, but rather getting perpwalked in front of a committee and investigators as to his role in Freddie Mac's massive fraud and scandalous behavior in lying about its financials.

re: #228 funky chicken

I'm still terrified that he will make us long for the days of Carter. And yes, I remember them well.

Me too. And I grew up in Michigan. The only jobs available in 79 when I graduated form college were for arc welders so I stayed in school

re: #23 CyanSnowHawk

But like David Alan Grier said, he better not mess this up.

That's the sad reality of it. Obama will be reviled like no other black man ever has that I can think of. He simply can't measure up to the expectations built up.

re: #222 outsidephilly

I wish you were on the last thread, read my #623

I mean #632

re: #213 gregg

My favorite microbrewer is Ommegang out of Cooperstown. Their brewmaster was the first American knighted by the Belgium brewer's guild. He has since moved back to the midwest and is the brewmaster at New Glarus brewery in Wisconsin. Spotted Cow is brewed by New Glarus, so I can understand why you would like it.

Spotted Cow is easily my favorite out of all the New Glarus Brews. I like the bottle cap: "Drink Indigenous"

re: #234 Shug

People who annoy you

lol!

Looking forward, I want to support the possibility of Palin '12. Any suggestions on how I can do that?

I remember reading here that a PUMA set up a Pro-Palin site. Anybody know where that is, if it exists?

Thanks!

Problem is: he wasn't elected because he's black (and he's not, anyway; he's half white, 7/16 Arab, 1/16 African), he was elected because he promised to rob from the "lucky" rich and give to the deserving poor. If Clarence Thomas had been elected, we'd have no cheers from the lefties for the new Black President.

Red, green, yellow or black - he's a Marxist thug. I'm not happy about it - not one little bit.

re: #227 snowbunnybutt

I know I posted about me being attacked verbally for being white and voting for McCain. Now things are getting worse. In my town we never have issues like this, but today alone we have had 2 fights with someone calling a white person racist. One ever called the cops, and they said the person was crazy. That there was nothing wrong. She was screaming about a parking spot of all things.

And what town might this be ? Or at least what general area of the country?

Recently, I was talking to one guy who boasted that voting no on 8 was the only way to go. I mentioned that I voted yes on 8, and he let loose on me, calling homophobic, and many other names, and finally asked me how I could support such an obviously bigoted bill.

I replied, "Simple. I'm not from California. Where I'm from, 8 was a bill that would lower state taxes."

That shut him up.

It is southern Illinois, a very small town, the cows even get bored!

re: #247 snowbunnybutt

It is southern Illinois, a very small town, the cows even get bored!

Must be nice, though!

re: #34 Noam Sayin'

The man has never worked a day in his life. Now he will not stop working for at least 4 years. You may not have to wait long to be vindicated.

re: #92 Moe Katz

Are we reading the same blog?

Moe, I may have said something along these lines last night, but Iwa quoting David Alan Grier who said to BHO--don't f**k this up on "Chocolate News".

I do not recall ever seeing anyone saying that if he fails as POTUS, he will be the last AA president for awhile. I do know that people said that if he had been soundly beaten in the election, then he would be the last black candidate for awhile.

Sadly, racism is not dead. There are too many black bigots out there still.

re: #111 Charles

Charles, I'm still finishing office paperwork and not really checking out the thread but I just updinged this article. I agree, it's about time we had a non-white president. I really felt the excitement in our precinct the other night and it was great.

That being said, I still worry about his associations and core beliefs. It would be wonderful if I turn out to be wrong.

bbl

re: #241 logboy

Spotted Cow is easily my favorite out of all the New Glarus Brews. I like the bottle cap: "Drink Indigenous"

Ommegang is a damned fine brewery, though they're now owned by the folks who make Duvel. They lean towards stronger brews (higher alcohol contents). Tasty stuff, and I really enjoy their 3 philosophers.

I agree with you Charles that this can be a positive.

They need to make a concerted effort to broadcast this as an example that anyone of any color (or social strata for that matter) can rise to the highest possible level of success. Color means nothing. Arising from poverty means nothing.

The person that will make one a success looks back in the mirror at each of us every day.

This also means time to cut up the race card and throw it away like a bad debt.

If they don't do that, we have gotten no where.
But boy o boy, do they have a great opportunity here.

Now, being a Gemini
the other side of me says democrats are the enemy, they ruined our economy and standing in the world (which was never very good due to jealousy) plus our retirement nest eggs and we cannot be expected to (easily) forget it. Would it be worth it though, if this erased all the hate ?
I'd be willing to chip in. How much I do not know but I could not turn my back on it, bitter as I am with the state of MSM/DNC marriage.

Seeing 8 years of attacks on POTUS Bush is just going to be hard to wash away.

but hey Palin/Adrenalyn 2012
it just sounds right !

re: #193 Killgore Trout

The era of racial harmony has arrived...
The N-bomb is dropped on black passersby at Prop 8 protests

Every time I am all ready to go out and kill and gore a trout you do something to redeem yourself.

livefreeor die

I wish you were on the last thread, read my #623 OOPS, I mean #632

re: #251 Pvt Bin Jammin

Charles, I'm still finishing office paperwork and not really checking out the thread but I just updinged this article. I agree, it's about time we had a non-white president. I really felt the excitement in our precinct the other night and it was great.

That being said, I still worry about his associations and core beliefs. It would be wonderful if I turn out to be wrong.

bbl

I agree!

That the Country elected a man of Color is a step towards a brighter future.
But he's a socialist with a bent to change the Constitution to include "Social/Financial Justice" and he ran with racists and domestic terrorists and crooks and thieves.
So that kinda puts a damper on the whole warm and fuzzy.
And when I remember O-___ s words about downsizing the military in a time when we need to be stronger than ever, well, I just can't get real Kumbaiya about this election. I get scared.
I live in a multi-racial-ethnic city. I'm in an inter-racial relationship. I've been all over the world and love all people, (even Muslims, lots of good people in that crowd). So color has nothing to do with my feelings.
I'll keep breathing and looking for the good and pray that this inexperienced young man doesn't destroy the "Last Best Hope" on the planet.
Peace

Affirmative action in the presidency? Sure, why not, we've had it everywhere else. I just wish they'd picked someone else, like a son of a Mississippi sharecropper, not the son of a Kenyan apparatchik.

Anybody else thing that the "Office of the President-Elect" is pompous and sophomoric?

re: #234 Shug

People who annoy you

Watch it there, Shug!
/South Park

Does anyone else suspect that Iowahawk is really Dennis Miller?

Miller unfortunately has no connection to Iowa, having been raised in Pittsburgh and environs, but that could be some clever misdirection.

Another theory: I think Zombie is really [deleted]

"Country First"

I'm reading "A Man Called Intrepid", about William Stephenson, the chief spy for the British before and during WW II. Much of the book is also about the goings-on in the U.S., with interactions between Stephenson, FDR, and Churchill.

One part of the "stay neutral / no war" crowd in the U.S. was a group of nasty types who liked Nazism. Turns out they were largely Irish, Catholic, and used the term "America First". I thought it interesting, the parallel with Patrick Buchanan and his slogan of recent years.

I hope "Country First" has different meaning. I know McCain meant country before politics.

re: #222 outsidephilly

I wish you were on the last thread, read my #623

I couldn't find it under #623 but I saw some other ones around there. Which one was it? Did I go to the wrong thread?

re: #251 Pvt Bin Jammin

Charles, I'm still finishing office paperwork and not really checking out the thread but I just updinged this article. I agree, it's about time we had a non-white president. I really felt the excitement in our precinct the other night and it was great.

That being said, I still worry about his associations and core beliefs. It would be wonderful if I turn out to be wrong.

bbl

The irony here is that GW Bush made BHO possible. Seeing Powell and Rice in positions of high executive authority made millions of Americans comfortable with the thought of an AA president.

re: #250 calcajun

Moe, I may have said something along these lines last night, but Iwa quoting David Alan Grier who said to BHO--don't f**k this up on "Chocolate News".

I do not recall ever seeing anyone saying that if he fails as POTUS, he will be the last AA president for awhile. I do know that people said that if he had been soundly beaten in the election, then he would be the last black candidate for awhile.

Sadly, racism is not dead. There are too many black bigots out there still.

'Tweren't yours neither. The best way to find the one I was thinking of primarily would be to go back a few months searching all posts of mine that mention President Carter. It's probably the only one. The post I was replying to was the one I had foremost in my mind. Dunno if there is a search design that can search all of someone's posts that contain a given string.

re: #219 livefreeor die

Geez, I thought after the stuff about Emmanuel and Freddie Mac and the Nancy Reagan comment, the honeymoon was over.