I'm tired of America being the world's whipping boy.

I've reached the end of being polite without such sentiments being returned in kind.

I think they fail to realize they do have a lot of Barack 0bama's in their political machine. They focus on race when the issue is ideology.

Racists assholes.

Mr Phillips later told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme it would be very hard for people who were not the right gender, class or race to reach the very top because of the current political system in place.

Maybe in Labour but, what stopped Thatcher, a Tory?

"Political machine"

What, you mean like the press? The press that is supposed to do their job and thoroughly investigate and vett any candidate? Well, maybe he has a point. But it is very interesting that he tacitly admitted that Obama could not have won in a fair election.

Does this mean we are now superior to those folks across the Atlantic?

The BBC and Britain’s “equality watchdog” say that Britain is way too racist to elect someone like Barack Obama.

On the one hand, the BBC and Trevor Phillips.... consider the source.

On the other, some deflation of European pomposity.

How to choose... hmmm...

I thought they've always said we were behind in our cultural and racial acceptance.

I wonder if they are as tolerant of Marxists as we are?

/dumb question

Obama would fit the Labour Party mold just fine. He's an urban socialist who is friends with radicals. What more do you need?

Change!

/barf

He claimed even someone of Mr Obama's talent

To wit: Self-promotion.

Meanwhile, at the end of the Friday open thread, someone posted a link to an article at WorldNetDaily by a white nationalist.

That person has been banned, and WorldNetDaily is now banned from our spinoff links.

A spokesman added: "This is the party that produced, among others, the first black woman MP, the first black minister, the first black woman minister, the first black Cabinet minister, the first black woman Cabinet minister and the first black woman mayor."

*pop*

re: #5 MandyManners

Maybe in Labour but, what stopped Thatcher, a Tory?

They haven't thought about that, Mandy, because they're not actually trying to describe a problem. They're just spewing their unhealthy loathing of their own country. Fools.

socialism causes a lot of resentment.

re: #13 Charles

But..but...Chuck Norris is over there!
/

Mr Phillips later told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme it would be very hard for people who were not the right gender, class or race to reach the very top because of the current political system in place.

But I thought europe was so enlightened that is was us bumpkin Americans that were supposed to emulate them. I'm so confused.

re: #13 Charles

Meanwhile, at the end of the Friday open thread, someone posted a link to an article at WorldNetDaily by a white nationalist.

That person has been banned, and WorldNetDaily is now banned from our spinoff links.

And dropped from my favorites list as soon as I get home.

He said it was harder to reach the top for those who “did not fit the mould”.

How fungal.....

How about a muslim?

re: #21 jemima

How about a muslim?

Are you forgetting Charlie?

re: #13 Charles

Meanwhile, at the end of the Friday open thread, someone posted a link to an article at WorldNetDaily by a white nationalist.

That person has been banned, and WorldNetDaily is now banned from our spinoff links.

Geesh alot of rules. Will the test be open book? Multiple choice I hope?
/

Britain may be way too racist to elect an Obama, but why bother? They've got plenty of Labour politicians who are all too willing to commit national suicide by themselves.

re: #17 Oh no...Sand People!

But..but...Chuck Norris is over there!
/

He should leave. Those who believe in our nations ideals should not consort with those who would destroy them. That goes for Chuck Norris, Joseph Farah, Robert Spencer, and especially Barack Obama.

"biased against change", huh. What about "hope"? How are the Brit's on Hope?

Lenny Henry for Prime Minister!

re: #24 Irene NYC

Britain may be way too racist to elect an Obama, but why bother? They've got plenty of Labour politicians who are all too willing to commit national suicide by themselves.

If Britain is so racist why does Gweneth Paltrow and her ilk prefer it to the good old US of A?

Betcha it's even worse in France.

re: #16 nyc redneck

socialism causes a lot of resentment.

when there's just scraps everyone gathers into bands to fight for them. Natural consequence of the limited pie view of wealth.

This is just some UK leftard being a self loather

Just out of curiosity, what talents has Obama exhibited at this point? The guy's not even an active president yet and people are singing his praises as if he can walk on water. He's all show and no substance.
On the other hand, the amount of foreigners telling me that my country made the best decision and how happy they are is going to drive me postal ! Neither Turkey, Australia, the UK, or any other European country from where my coworkers hail is a shining example of anything.
I saw this article on yahoo news a few days ago. It made me shake my head. I don't believe for a second some austrian lady went and kissed this "journalist" just because the O-face got elected. Articles like this make we want to vomit.
Suddenly It May Be Cool to Be an American Again

even someone of Mr Obama’s talent

HAHAHAHAH whoa boy, that's a knee-slapper! Are you sure this wasn't from a BBC comedy or The Beano or something?

re: #28 Nevergiveup

If Britain is so racist why does Gweneth Paltrow and her ilk prefer it to the good old US of A?

It's all the drugs.

I sent Melanie Phillips' last article to my friend who lives in Cheshire. She said Melanie was a loony tune, that being in London was not representative of the rest of the country. What my friend missed was the specifics of the article, the changes being made to England itself, the accommodation and appeasement. She was absolutely blind to that. These people are in deep, deep denial, terrified and floundering and striking out at every safe target instead of focusing on what could possibly help save England.

re: #32 Crusty

even someone of Mr Obama’s talent

HAHAHAHAH whoa boy, that's a knee-slapper! Are you sure this wasn't from a BBC comedy or The Beano or something?

Talent for BS.

re: #3 Sharmuta

I think they fail to realize they do have a lot of Barack 0bama's in their political machine. They focus on race when the issue is ideology.

Exactly!

Sharmuta (#3),

I think they fail to realize they do have a lot of Barack 0bama's in their political machine. They focus on race when the issue is ideology.

Precisely.

I didn't vote against Obama because he's black, I voted against him because he's a red.

re: #28 Nevergiveup

If Britain is so racist why does Gweneth Paltrow and her ilk prefer it to the good old US of A?

Because of the weather, and the food. Oh, and the dental care.

/

He said it was harder to reach the top for those who “did not fit the mould”.

I think what he means is you have to be a moldy old fart to be at the top.

re: #28 Nevergiveup

If Britain is so racist why does Gweneth Paltrow and her ilk prefer it to the good old US of A?

ABUSA (Anywhere but USA).

Anyway, logic is not exactly what moonbats are known for.
;)

And of course, should someone be elected to the office of prime minister who "did not fit the mould", Mr phillips would find it difficult justifying Britain's ongoing need for an Equality and Human Rights Commissioner.

Oh, so we in the USA are now more advanced than Europe?

Ha, that has always been true,

Ha Ha Ha,

Where were they stupid enough to start two world wars?

Europe of course.

Next maybe they will admit that!

Ha ha ha!

re: #7 jester6

Does this mean we are now superior to those folks across the Atlantic?

Nope - you still don't have a female President, nearly thirty years after Maggie.

Sorry - had to be said.
I'm sick of all those who point to gender or skin colour and overlook the politics people represent.
When will the msm learn that in today's world, its not the colour of your skin or your gender which ought to matter, but your character and your politics.

re: #18 Sharmuta

Hey Shar! Saw a car with a "Smurfy" license plate. Was that you?

re: #22 galloping granny

Are you forgetting Charlie?

Wow. I sat there staring saying to the monitor "Who's Charlie?!" Then it clicked. Their Chuckles. He's more worried about oat cakes than running the government. Although he is always available to give positive speeches about the umma.

re: #43 yma o hyd

What is this "character" word of which you speak?

I think he is planting seeds of unrest. Phillips said "the people" were ready for a black president, but it was the "system" that would not allow it. So they have to change the system.

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe.....

re: #43 yma o hyd

Nope - you still don't have a female President, nearly thirty years after Maggie.

Sorry - had to be said.
I'm sick of all those who point to gender or skin colour and overlook the politics people represent.
When will the msm learn that in today's world, its not the colour of your skin or your gender which ought to matter, but your character and your politics.

good luck with that.

re: #31 baconeatingkaffir

Just out of curiosity, what talents has Obama exhibited at this point? The guy's not even an active president yet and people are singing his praises as if he can walk on water. He's all show and no substance.
On the other hand, the amount of foreigners telling me that my country made the best decision and how happy they are is going to drive me postal ! Neither Turkey, Australia, the UK, or any other European country from where my coworkers hail is a shining example of anything.
I saw this article on yahoo news a few days ago. It made me shake my head. I don't believe for a second some austrian lady went and kissed this "journalist" just because the O-face got elected. Articles like this make we want to vomit.
Suddenly It May Be Cool to Be an American Again

IMO: They are excited because we joined them in their den of iniquity, lending credence to their vile misdeeds.
Similar to the Moabites seducing the Israelites just before they were to cross into the Land.

re: #40 Irene NYC

Anyway, logic is not exactly what moonbats are known for.

Just saw some poorly dressed wanna-be rock star twit on FNC talking about how Obama's election will magically heal the stock market, and we're looking at a historic bull market as soon as he gets in office.

Man am I going to get sick of this messianic crap. Although I am going to love compiling a list of his epic failures to slam in their faces.

But, they could elect a British Arab. Just a teensy little bit more immigration...

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Obama would fit the Labour Party mold just fine. He's an urban socialist who is friends with radicals. What more do you need?

Change!

/barf

He is, using the words of that twat Berlusconi, an 'evenly-tanned' Tony Blair.

Funny thing is - their wives are so like each other its beyond belief!

re: #1 MandyManners

I'm tired of America being the world's whipping boy.

Not only that Mandy, but we are the ones the world calls upon to save their asses between whippings!

re: #28 Nevergiveup

If Britain is so racist why does Gweneth Paltrow and her ilk prefer it to the good old US of A?

She's an idiot.

re: #13 Charles

Good moves Charles.

re: #48 Sharmuta

I waved! You just stared at me like I was crazy. That was rude.

This is in part due the Europe allowing immigrants to isolate from the mainstream society. Allowing sharia courts etc...

It's a glimpse of the our future if we don't expect assimilation from our immigrants.

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What is this "character" word of which you speak?

Best and last paragraph in the latest IOWAHAWK:

So for now, let's put politics aside and celebrate this historic milestone. In his famous speech at the Lincoln Memorial 45 years ago, Dr. King said "I have a dream that one day my children will live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." Let us now take pride that Tuesday we Americans proved that neither thing matters anymore.

Brilliant...yet so sad...yet brilliant...and so true.

'

re: #18 Sharmuta

But I thought europe was so enlightened that is was us bumpkin Americans that were supposed to emulate them. I'm so confused.

Its the old game - will never end, more's the pity.

Always appropriate clip when all things Euroweenie need a pause that refreshes. James Garners' wonderful speech from The Americanization of Emily.

re: #51 esch

Just saw some poorly dressed wanna-be rock star twit on FNC talking about how Obama's election will magically heal the stock market, and we're looking at a historic bull market as soon as he gets in office.

Man am I going to get sick of this messianic crap. Although I am going to love compiling a list of his epic failures to slam in their faces.

I won't enjoy that list. There's nothing fun about the amount of damage he could do if he makes the wrong decisions.

re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I waved! You just stared at me like I was crazy. That was rude.

doesn't everyone?

(sorry)

All they need to do is publish an article like this every single day for the next few years and they'll be able to work up a pretty good case of collective guilt.

That'll fix the problem.

re: #59 Oh no...Sand People!

Brilliant...yet so sad...yet brilliant...and so true.

'

We could solve our energy problems by hooking the late Dr. King to a generator as he spins in his grave.

I'm hungry. Anybody got a banana or something?

re: #57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I waved! You just stared at me like I was crazy. That was rude.

Well- if you weren't such a bastard, I would have waved back. ;)

re: #51 esch

Just saw some poorly dressed wanna-be rock star twit on FNC talking about how Obama's election will magically heal the stock market, and we're looking at a historic bull market as soon as he gets in office.

Man am I going to get sick of this messianic crap. Although I am going to love compiling a list of his epic failures to slam in their faces.

If he does the opposite of what he has said he'd do, there may be a bull market. Think the MSM could spin reductions in dividend, cap gains and top marginal rates as a tax breaks for the poor?

re: #55 The Other Les

She's an idiot.

Concise but accurate!

re: #65 The Other Les

We could solve our energy problems by hooking the late Dr. King to a generator as he spins in his grave.

God rest his republican soul.

re: #28 Nevergiveup

If Britain is so racist why does Gweneth Paltrow and her ilk prefer it to the good old US of A?

They want to be among the first residents of Islamistan.

re: #54 CapeCoddah

That's resentment revealed. They KNOW they can't exist without us, and it drives them crazy.

It's similar to how teenagers think they know better than their parents about everything, but quail at the thought of living on their own. They KNOW.

Socialism can't exist without capitalism somewhere propping it up. Gotta keep reminding them of that.

re: #64 littleoldlady

All they need to do is publish an article like this every single day for the next few years and they'll be able to work up a pretty good case of collective guilt.

That'll fix the problem.

I tend to look upon people who try to lay guilt trips on me as either idiots or hostiles.

re: #24 Irene NYC

Britain may be way too racist to elect an Obama, but why bother? They've got plenty of Labour politicians who are all too willing to commit national suicide by themselves.

That self-same man, Phillips, is on record as saying that the equality laws have swung so far in favour of coloured people that white Britons are now at a disadvantage.

But hey, accusing someone of being racist is still the worst accusation one can make.

Now why doesn't it work with accusing people of being misogynists, I wonder?

re: #67 Sharmuta

[Insert giggling noise here.]

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm hungry. Anybody got a banana or something?

define "or something", cause I already ate my 'nana in my cereal

re: #59 Oh no...Sand People!

I would have been 6 comments behind you in posting that, had I not clicked "new comments" after "preview."

/NCIMF

re: #73 The Other Les

I tend to look upon people who try to lay guilt trips on me as either idiots or hostiles.

...or my mother.

re: #64 littleoldlady

All they need to do is publish an article like this every single day for the next few years and they'll be able to work up a pretty good case of collective guilt.

That'll fix the problem.

The way they decided to deal with their collective imperialist guilt was to open the door to immigrants.

That worked out really, really well.

/

re: #72 esch

That's resentment revealed. They KNOW they can't exist without us, and it drives them crazy.

It's similar to how teenagers think they know better than their parents about everything, but quail at the thought of living on their own. They KNOW.

Socialism can't exist without capitalism somewhere propping it up. Gotta keep reminding them of that.

Zactly!

Has there ever been a country anywhere in the world who has elected a minority as their leader?

America is extraordinary.

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm hungry. Anybody got a banana or something?

Here's some hope!

re: #27 Ward Cleaver

Lenny Henry for Prime Minister!

Heh!
They actually ran a petition for Jeremy Clarkson as Prime Minister!

re: #38 Occasional Reader

Because of the weather, and the food. Oh, and the dental care.

/

Actually, there's really good food to be had in England. None of it is English, though.

re: #79 Sharmuta

I rest my case. ;-)

re: #82 The Other Les

Here's some hope!

Funny. I still feel empty.

re: #82 The Other Les

Here's some hope!

LOL.

When is Kenya going to elect a white president?

esch (#51),

Just saw some poorly dressed wanna-be rock star twit on FNC talking about how Obama's election will magically heal the stock market, and we're looking at a historic bull market as soon as he gets in office.

Man am I going to get sick of this messianic crap. Although I am going to love compiling a list of his epic failures to slam in their faces.

That's Fantasy Land.

NEW YORK, Nov 7 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks broke out of their
post-election funk on Friday, but on balance, the market hardly
delivered a ringing endorsement of Barack Obama's defeat of John McCain to be elected 44th president of the United States.

Whatever the reason, since Election Day, major U.S. indexes are down more than 7 percent. For the Dow Jones industrial average .DJI
and Standard & Poor's 500 .SPX, that represents the worst ever
conclusion to the week of a presidential election.

re: #78 littleoldlady

...or my mother.

Guilt. The gift that keeps on giving!

re: #82 The Other Les

Here's some hope!

tastes like bile, not filling

re: #33 Ward Cleaver

It's all the drugs.

Leave my poor Gywneth alone.

re: #84 rightymouse

I dunno. I'm still partial to the English style breakfast but "bangers" took a bit of getting used to. If you think English food is bland, try Turkish. I'm bored of 200 varieties of meatballs and stuffed vegetables.... something about a country with no bacon!

re: #88 yah

When is Kenya going to elect a white president?

When the Sun expands into its Red Giant phase.

Charles,
Who was the White Natioalist? What was the article?

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What is this "character" word of which you speak?

Translates, for a politician, into 'Maggie' ...
(Well, it does for me, here in Britain.)

re: #93 baconeatingkaffir

I dunno. I'm still partial to the English style breakfast but "bangers" took a bit of getting used to. If you think English food is bland, try Turkish. I'm bored of 200 varieties of meatballs and stuffed vegetables.... something about a country with no bacon!

Bacon only belongs on top of a cheeseburger.

re: #23 Nevergiveup

No. Common sense. White supremacists do not get to be counted as credible for anything, with the possible exception of proving stupidity. Following along this path, outfits that use these cretins as proof of anything other than stupidity can play in another sandbox.

Charles has created a blog where the participants must be better than this. If you (in the collective sense) chose to support this vileness, go ahead. Just don't bring it here as most of us don't appreciate it in the least.

re: #81 Pastorius

Has there ever been a country anywhere in the world who has elected a minority as their leader?

America is extraordinary.

We've had many "minotity" Presidents

Kennedy --- Catholic
Nixon ------ Paranoid
Carter------ Wimp
Clinton ----- Serial Sex Offender

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

I take the position that as long as you're still alive, you fight. And the world sucks, take your pleasure where you can.

re: #68 spidly

He's already rolling over on fundamental promises. Many of his big supporters are rich investors. He'll fall in line quick enough.

re: #13 Charles

Meanwhile, at the end of the Friday open thread, someone posted a link to an article at WorldNetDaily by a white nationalist.

That person has been banned, and WorldNetDaily is now banned from our spinoff links.

I stopped looking at WND (which I was never that great of a reader of, although they did have a lot of news not reported in the MSM) when they started urging people not to vote in this election. I think they were successful in throwing the election... may they be happy with their results.

Anyway, you've seen the white power stuff. Anything else that's made you stop linking to them? (Just curious)

Britain still has their class system in place, so people know their place. Pity.
It's only when you become a famous rock n roll star that you can piss on the crown jewels and get knighted for it.

Sitting in the lobby of a Holiday Inn Express getting my LGF on. Think there's an apple or a nanna on the breakfast bar. Think they'd mind?

re: #98 ArmyWife

No. Common sense. White supremacists do not get to be counted as credible for anything, with the possible exception of proving stupidity. Following along this path, outfits that use these cretins as proof of anything other than stupidity can play in another sandbox.

Charles has created a blog where the participants must be better than this. If you (in the collective sense) chose to support this vileness, go ahead. Just don't bring it here as most of us don't appreciate it in the least.

Gee didn't you notice my / sarc tag?

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, they could elect a British Arab. Just a teensy little bit more immigration...

Yeah, I was thinking that, or an "Asian" like Jindal.

Basically, I'll bet the claim is just plain wrong. Whilst Britain is certainly far more mouldy than the US of A, they can be whipped up into a crazed frenzy just like we have been. Just ask Germany.

re: #47 yah

I think he is planting seeds of unrest. Phillips said "the people" were ready for a black president, but it was the "system" that would not allow it. So they have to change the system.

Yeah right - same as you would change your system, your constitution and all.

I'm flabbergasted to see with what stupidities people come out, just to make themselves look important.

Completely off topic....

It's a bit wetter than usual in the Great Northwet

Snoqualmie Falls video.

Am I watching the Benny Hill Show?

re: #106 yma o hyd

Yeah right - same as you would change your system, your constitution and all.

I'm flabbergasted to see with what stupidities people come out, just to make themselves look important.

Byger - that was not a all a refelction on you, yah!
I meant Trevor Phillips and those of his ilk, running their little empires achieving nothing.
Sorry if I offended you - am a bit cross right now.

re: #107 jcm

Completely off topic....

It's a bit wetter than usual in the Great Northwet

Snoqualmie Falls video.

It's an unbelievably beautiful clear, warm day in Lost Angeles.

re: #58 jcm

This is in part due the Europe allowing immigrants to isolate from the mainstream society. Allowing sharia courts etc...

It's a glimpse of the our future if we don't expect assimilation from our immigrants.

Due to the European LLL allowing this, note that well, and prepare for similar things to happen in your country. They heart Obama because he's a European LLL, thats all!

re: #89 Geepers

Absolutely. It's going to take quite a lot of whacks over the head with reality to disabuse the Obamanauts of their cultish adulation, though.

This election will do little to transcend us past racial considerations.
It may even worsen things.
The "Permanent Racial Grievance Class" will now give full sway to their every whim.

re: #107 jcm

Completely off topic....

It's a bit wetter than usual in the Great Northwet

Snoqualmie Falls video.

How's "Snoqualmie" pronounce? Like snow-calmee? Snow Kwalmie?

Europeans have been projecting their own racism onto the united states for decades.

re: #109 yma o hyd

No offence taken.

Heard some libtard the other day going on about the racial significance of Obama winning the presidency.

So I asked... If the Dems really truly believed that American was such as racist country, why would they chose a black guy as their candidate to run for President in the first place? I mean why would you pick a candidate with that much of a handicap in the first place?

He didn't have an answer.

re: #117 oh_dude

Heard some libtard the other day going on about the racial significance of Obama winning the presidency.

So I asked... If the Dems really truly believed that American was such as racist country, why would they chose a black guy as their candidate to run for President in the first place? I mean why would you pick a candidate with that much of a handicap in the first place?

He didn't have an answer.

1st (and only) question I would have asked the lib is "I thought the liberals said this wasn't about race! So, how can there ANY 'significance'?!?!?!"

Dear Little Green Footballers,

Just a line from the UK to say I LOVE YOU and THANK YOU for writing the things you write. The website is a haven of mental sanity - especially these days. You are the ones who save everybody's bacon when the going gets tough - again and again.

It was good to be with you before and during this electoral campaign, whatever the result - it will be good to be with you on the road that starts now. We'll survive.

My regards to you all - THANK YOU AGAIN.

Looking forward to hearing from you on this website in the years to come.

re: #107 jcm

Completely off topic....

It's a bit wetter than usual in the Great Northwet

Snoqualmie Falls video.

we get floods in Oregon every year. Every year they are shocked and amazed. Channel 8 news goes into storm watch mode and chases cows around with their FLIR night vision camera - yes they did do that "LOOK, those cows are seeking higher ground!"

Johnson creek floods through portland just about every year...it's a freeking flood plain, of course it does. report it when it doesn't.

re: #120 spidly

we get floods in Oregon every year. Every year they are shocked and amazed. Channel 8 news goes into storm watch mode and chases cows around with their FLIR night vision camera - yes they did do that "LOOK, those cows are seeking higher ground!"

Johnson creek floods through portland just about every year...it's a freeking flood plain, of course it does. report it when it doesn't.

Like when the hurricanes hit the coast of Florida and the Carolinas. You see people clamoring for plywood to board up their windows

what did they do with the plywood from LAST years hurricanes?!?!?!

re: #119 Dolce

Welcome.

BTW, how far is the nearest Boots?

My G_d it's not about race....Britain you HAVE elected persons like Obama....Their called Socialists!

re: #119 Dolce

Dear Little Green Footballers,

Just a line from the UK to say I LOVE YOU and THANK YOU for writing the things you write. The website is a haven of mental sanity - especially these days. You are the ones who save everybody's bacon when the going gets tough - again and again.

It was good to be with you before and during this electoral campaign, whatever the result - it will be good to be with you on the road that starts now. We'll survive.

My regards to you all - THANK YOU AGAIN.

Looking forward to hearing from you on this website in the years to come.

Islamophobe!

/

re: #93 baconeatingkaffir

I dunno. I'm still partial to the English style breakfast but "bangers" took a bit of getting used to. If you think English food is bland, try Turkish. I'm bored of 200 varieties of meatballs and stuffed vegetables.... something about a country with no bacon!

'bangers' for breakfast. Don't you care for sausages?
Now kippers or brains, on the other hand.

Haven't tried Turkish, but I do adore Indian food.

On a side note....Free Republic is under a DOS attack, it's down....

re: #125 rightymouse

When I think of sausages I think more of the spicy Jimmy Dean variety. Turkish food is ok but after awhile I'm bored of it all. :)

re: #114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How's "Snoqualmie" pronounce? Like snow-calmee? Snow Kwalmie?

Snow Kwalmie, lots of Indian names 'round here, helps us keep tabs an those dang furiners from Californiyeah, they can't pronounce nothing right.

//

re #124 Sol Roth:

So be it!

I stand by my words and will fight, if necessary, for my English breakfast..... I cried the first time I faced one (on a Christmas morning 16 years ago) but I soon learnt to scoff it as well as the locals.

No comparison with dreary arugula!

re: #127 baconeatingkaffir

When I think of sausages I think more of the spicy Jimmy Dean variety. Turkish food is ok but after awhile I'm bored of it all. :)

Their sausages do leave a bit to be desired - I like the spicy stuff too, like andouille and chorizo.

re: #123 resize
oops.. thier=they're

re # 122 oh-dude:

My nearest Boots is about two miles from my place - I am boycotting them after their photo people lost some negatives I had taken to them for developing.

A black British Prime Minister may not be elected, but there are enough South Asians in power that the UK will have an Asian PM pretty soon, I think.

re: #129 Dolce

re #124 Sol Roth:

So be it!

I stand by my words and will fight, if necessary, for my English breakfast..... I cried the first time I faced one (on a Christmas morning 16 years ago) but I soon learnt to scoff it as well as the locals.

No comparison with dreary arugula!

Indeed not - a full English Breakfast with all the trimmings is just the ticket to start a full day rambling in the hills and moors ... especialy in Winter.

re: #134 yma o hyd

Indeed not - a full English Breakfast with all the trimmings is just the ticket to start a full day rambling in the hills and moors ... especialy in Winter.

Full english is just the ticket to start the day with a 5 hour nap.

re: #135 spidly

Full english is just the ticket to start the day with a 5 hour nap.

Heh.
You forget that English houses are not well heated, erm, they're cold, actually. So this is just whats needed ... and the kitchen gets warmed up, too ...

re. # 136 yma o hyd

"Not well heated" is an understatement.....

The political systems of the USA and UK are so different that making such a comparison is pointless.
However, HM Queen Elizabeth is the UK's head of state, so if her grandson William marries a black woman and they have a son, that son would be king eventually. So there we are, a black man or indeed woman could be head of state one day and won't have to win an election to do it.

re: #136 yma o hyd

Heh.
You forget that English houses are not well heated, erm, they're cold, actually. So this is just whats needed ... and the kitchen gets warmed up, too ...

Is that the truth. Visited over there some years ago, and stayed in a number of bed n' breakfast places. It was the coldest October I ever remember, and I am from MN.

Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, told the Times the problem would not be voters but the political “machine”.

While the political machine may be a problem to say the voters wouldn't be is rubbish.There's no shortage of racist brits

Ditto in Japan where 78% of people wanted Obama but, from what I see and hear, probably are not soo keen on a Korean neighbor and, as this article concludes, cannot even concieve of similar multi-ethnic developments in japan.
In my opinion, however, it is impossible that there will not be a Japanese PM who has near non-Japanese ancestry. I mentioned this at dinner tonight to a table full of inter-cultural couples, one a Japanese bureaucrat with a Thai wife, getting them to admit that our children and grandchildren will be ideally placed to join the ranks of power, especially as the native population dwindles.

re: #138 Dolce

re. # 136 yma o hyd

"Not well heated" is an understatement.....

Ah - but early training from childhood inures one against these things.
Ok - ice on the indisde of the bedroom windows may not be everyone's cup of tea, but what is wrong with hot water bottles, blankets, and a nice fire in the living room in the evening?
A nice cup of tea - a dram of whisky - its not all bad!

re: #79 Sharmuta

The way they decided to deal with their collective imperialist guilt was to open the door to immigrants.

That worked out really, really well.

/

good point
They also need immigrants to pay for their nanny state. A plummeting birth rate in a country with a high tax rate is much more disastrous than one with a low tax rate.

Most Brits are not racist, (which isn't to say that there are still a lot of them around.) However it seems fitting to me that Europe including Britain is now being forced to taste it's own piss regarding accusations of racism. Just where are those black European Presidents and Prime Ministers? Surely there must be one, in all those enlightened and progressive little countries, no?

re: #145 Jimmah

correction:

Most Brits are not racist, (which isn't to say that there aren't still a lot of them around.)

::heavy sigh::

re: #140 Dasher

Is that the truth. Visited over there some years ago, and stayed in a number of bed n' breakfast places. It was the coldest October I ever remember, and I am from MN.

Yes - and in autumn especially its the dampness which creeps into everything which makes it feel especially cold.

With the credit crunch, taxes etc all biting us, we're getting back to our roots, switching the central heating off (or have it as low as possible) and people are getting back to their old habits of wearing jumpers and cardigans, socks, bedsocks, thick nighties and pajamas, using hot water bottles ...

(And for ladies: cool rooms are so much better for one's skin!)

re: #141 mahatma coat

Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, told the Times the problem would not be voters but the political “machine”.

While the political machine may be a problem to say the voters wouldn't be is rubbish.There's no shortage of racist brits

Yep - the hatred between the Scots and the English is legendary ...

;-)

re: #145 Jimmah

Most Brits are not racist, (which isn't to say that there are still a lot of them around.) However it seems fitting to me that Europe including Britain is now being forced to taste it's own piss regarding accusations of racism. Just where are those black European Presidents and Prime Ministers? Surely there must be one, in all those enlightened and progressive little countries, no?

Ahem.
What about institutionalised misogyny then?
Hillary? Sarah Palin?

Where's the first female President of the USA then?
There have been three in Europe so far already, not to mention Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi, that lady now governing Sierra Leone ...

These are the same not-so bright elitists who voted in the majority that they would like to see a "weakened" America.
Looks like they got their wish.
Hope they enjoy it as much as we do.

re: #148 yma o hyd

Yes - and in autumn especially its the dampness which creeps into everything which makes it feel especially cold.

With the credit crunch, taxes etc all biting us, we're getting back to our roots, switching the central heating off (or have it as low as possible) and people are getting back to their old habits of wearing jumpers and cardigans, socks, bedsocks, thick nighties and pajamas, using hot water bottles ...

(And for ladies: cool rooms are so much better for one's skin!)

I never could get used to drinking tea with milk, though. A hot whiskey toddy is just the thing on those cold english nights. :)

I think the guy's got a valid point. English/European multiculturalism embodies some of the worst condescensions of Colonialism. Mutliculturalism is a way to exclude while appearing to be inclusive.

re: #152 baconeatingkaffir

no kidding I spent the first 3-4 months in Ireland always feeling cold and damp.In the place I was staying you could see your breath when you got up in the morning.Now I rarely even turn on the heat and only heat the sitting room with the (woo/peat/coal) fire

re: #150 yma o hyd

Ahem.
What about institutionalised misogyny then?
Hillary? Sarah Palin?

Where's the first female President of the USA then?
There have been three in Europe so far already, not to mention Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi, that lady now governing Sierra Leone ...

You could continue the piss contest like that if you wanted to, no doubt. But who was it who started it with the "America is so racist it will never vote in a black President no matter what" crap? Hmmm?

PS I'm British myself - just sick of listening to the smug hypocrisy of the prevailing mob here in the UK, and not above taking some satisfaction at their having the rug pulled out from under them on this issue.

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, they could elect a British Arab. Just a teensy little bit more immigration...

Come on Princess Di was thinking of wedding a good ole Arab... Dodi.

They are not so different than we are... we have the same cultural roots, whose parents were enlightenment and cradle is Christianity.

That is the root of our prosperity, advances in science and tolerance of different cultures.

Multiculturalism... just outta curiosity, how would the "ruling classes" of the US (o-bummer included) would feel to live in a neighborhood of working class immigrants. I think it would "open their eyes"... as well as those of their constituents. The majority of the "multi cultural" politicans seem to preach it more than they practice it.

"Mr Phillips said he believed the Conservatives had performed better than Labour in increasing the number of black and Asian parliamentary candidates. "The Conservatives] are less democratic. They are happier to impose candidates on the local parties." "

Oh, that explains the lack of racism in Conservatives. Conservative are "less democratic " and more willing in impose their evil, racist free ideology upon societies unfortunates.

re: #154 mahatma coat

no kidding I spent the first 3-4 months in Ireland always feeling cold and damp.In the place I was staying you could see your breath when you got up in the morning.Now I rarely even turn on the heat and only heat the sitting room with the (woo/peat/coal) fire

Aahh - peat fire!
That has such a wonderful scent ...

Mind - the Irish, especially those on the West Coast, don't really get much cold weather. You only need four layers to see you through: t-shirt, jumper, cardi, coat.
To be taken off or put on as required, seasonally or daily!
:-))

re: #150 yma o hyd

Ahem.
What about institutionalised misogyny then?
Hillary? Sarah Palin?

Where's the first female President of the USA then?
There have been three in Europe so far already, not to mention Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi, that lady now governing Sierra Leone ...

Females are indigenous to Briton. "Foreigners" are not - no matter how many of them have jobs broadcasting news on the BBC and no matter how many have lived for some generations as British. I think that's the problem.

re: #155 Jimmah

You could continue the piss contest like that if you wanted to, no doubt. But who was it who started it with the "America is so racist it will never vote in a black President no matter what" crap? Hmmm?

PS I'm British myself - just sick of listening to the smug hypocrisy of the prevailing mob here in the UK, and not above taking some satisfaction at their having the rug pulled out from under them on this issue.

As long as you put the blame for that crap firmly where it belongs: on the msm, the lot in Lunnon.

I'm sick of all this finger-pointing meself - there are far more important things to get worked up about. Only - I will defend my country, same as the Americans defend theirs, when sweeping, wrong statements are presented as facts.

I saw an English language German news program on public television that had a roundtable of commentators talking about American politics. They had to admit that America is the most colorblind society in the western world. Obama's presidency appears to forcing these people to start looking inward at their own faults rather than attacking the American scapegoat. I'm starting to enjoy the idea of President Obama. CHANGE!

But Maya Angelou is finally proud of us! At last we're like those enlightened Europeans, who eschewed racism so long ago!

re: #160 Daisy

Females are indigenous to Briton. "Foreigners" are not - no matter how many of them have jobs broadcasting news on the BBC and no matter how many have lived for some generations as British. I think that's the problem.

That, however, is and has been a problem throughout the history of mankind.
Lets not forget that people hated those from the next valley with bitter venom, although they were all of the same 'race' and skin colour.

It is not an edifying history at all - but finger-pointing or trying to out-do each other in regard to racism, blaming each other for it, or trying to score points about who has dealt with it better, that is not the way forward.

Thats what i was trying to show up with my remark. Its ridiculous to gloat about having a black president when we should be looking at his politics and the damage they a re likely to do.
But that is not something you'll find our msm are willing to do!

re: #162 Basho

I saw an English language German news program on public television that had a roundtable of commentators talking about American politics. They had to admit that America is the most colorblind society in the western world. Obama's presidency appears to forcing these people to start looking inward at their own faults rather than attacking the American scapegoat. I'm starting to enjoy the idea of President Obama. CHANGE!

You'll get over it when your taxes go up, businesses large and small close shop, inflation goes crazy, the country goes broke, North Korea and Iran get nukes, and we lose a couple of cities. Although we'll probably surrender to shari'a before that happens.

re: #13 Charles

Thanks for your non-stop "housecleaning", Charles!

re: #165 Tigger2005

You'll get over it...

Haha yeah I know. But until he gets sworn in I'll be gloating as those moonbats wake up to the fact that they have been wasting their lives.

re: #161 yma o hyd

As long as you put the blame for that crap firmly where it belongs: on the msm, the lot in Lunnon.

I'm sick of all this finger-pointing meself - there are far more important things to get worked up about. Only - I will defend my country, same as the Americans defend theirs, when sweeping, wrong statements are presented as facts.

I understand, and I do think the media are largely responsible. At the same time though, it never fails to disappoint me how willing so many people here are to simply absorb that media's output. I'd like to think that the sort of Europeans we are talking about will maybe find themselves thinking a little more carefully in future before snidely repeating the latest anti-American media slur.

How interesting is that?
The whole of Europe had its mouth full of America being a country where Obama would likely not become President due to racist motives, but he actually overwhelmingly won the election.

Now can you imagine Great Brittain, France, Germany or even super liberal Holland to elect a black man as a president? Of course not.

Hypocrisy at max in L'Europe.

re: #168 Jimmah

I understand, and I do think the media are largely responsible. At the same time though, it never fails to disappoint me how willing so many people here are to simply absorb that media's output. I'd like to think that the sort of Europeans we are talking about will maybe find themselves thinking a little more carefully in future before snidely repeating the latest anti-American media slur.

So do I!
This may sound imperialist, or colonialist, or whitey-racist - but I think that the problems facing the West in Africa and in the Ummah are too pressing to bicker about who did what first and who has or has not got balls/a spine/a black or female president. We have to stand together to defend freedom and our values.
And its for us to make a start, and hold the feet of our politicians to the fire where they slink away - on both sides of the Atlantic.

He claimed even someone of Mr Obama’s talent would struggle because the system was biased against change.

What?
Talent?
Holy chit the world has gone crazy.
A mountain is being renamed to Mount Obama, Canukistan wonders if we will ever be so lucky as to get an"Obama" ..he really is being treated like the second coming.
Stop the world, I am getting off

Don't worry Brits.

You'll soon have your non WASP leader.

just another 40 or 50 years of a lackluster birth rate coupled with an out of control immigration rate and a rapid birthrate amongst immigrants, and voila : You'll get your PM, named rather not so surprisingly , Mohammed

and I suspect he'll rule you with a fair hand

/

If Britain can have a black Doctor Who, they could probably have a black PM some day. The political system remains a meritocracy, more or less, so it won't, one hopes, just be for the look of it.
In Canada, our head of state is already represented by a black person, a Haitian immigrant in fact, and her predecessor was of Chinese origins. Bother of them were women, and that gender barrier was broken years ago, with Sauve. As for prime ministers, we have already checked off 'woman' with Kim Campbell, albeit briefly, and there are a sufficient number of serious female contenders in most of the parties (notwithstanding Elisabeth May).
Obama has however inspired the sentiment to be voiced that Canada ought to have an aboriginal PM sooner than later. A noble notion, but the chief, as it were, contender for that job already makes more money than the PM, is already afforded the respect due a national political party leader, is accountable only to a handful of people, and his interests are focused solely on 'First Nations' issues, leaning toward an almost segregationist approach in many matters. More Jesse Jackson than Barack Obama. There is at least one other exceptional aboriginal leader, in B.C., who comes to mind who might be a more likely to enter mainstream politics, so we'll see. But not next week, or next year; and 'race' however it may be defined (we'll not even get into the whole Metis issue), should not be the sole dimension to any aboriginal politician who chooses to enter the legislatures of the country, as it diminishes those who do.

re: #164 yma o hyd

".. Its ridiculous to gloat about having a black president when we should be looking at his politics and the damage they a re likely to do."

Gloating wouldn't only be ridiculous, it would be unbecoming. I think Americans have a simultaneous right to feel justifiable pride in having a society that sees fit to elect a black person as POTUS and an obligation to keep an eye on the bastard now that he's won.

As far as finger pointing, the way I see it is the English brought us the Abolitionist Movement - and we sure took our time before embracing it - but, when we understood, we sure did embrace it (Emancipation Proclamation, Civil War, Civil Rights Movement, etc.).

It's never a good idea to rest on one's laurels. I think the ball is in England's court now. Multiculturalism is a poor substitute for equality, in my opinion.

Yeah, well hooray for the UK then, if they could prevent Obama from getting up high and wrecking their country, any way possible. Instead of a George Galloway with a single seat in Parliament voted exclusively by Pakistanis wanting sharia, our 'open mindedness' and 'rejection of racism' has got us a giant Galloway in the White House. Cheer.

There is a reason for the exclusiveness of institutions. It prevents membership to those that want to tear the whole edifice down.

We, the Romans, have elected a barbarian emperor, with faux temple, Latin motto, and the whole bit. Educated at the best places, likely through the largesse of affirmative action, his main iimpetus is not gratitude, but to wreck the place just as it would have been if he were oppressed all his life.

Sorry, people, if I can't be proud.

Iowahawk hit it exactly as the gifted satirist he is. Now neither color of skin nor content of character matters a damn now.

Sorry if I offend, but I can't get over the bitterness so easily and start waving US flags with the Cannes crowd. I'll just wonder where we go now.

So now the British gov't just called all their citizens racist. Nice.

re: #99 sattv4u2

We've had many "minotity" Presidents

Kennedy --- Catholic
Nixon ------ Paranoid
Carter------ Wimp
Clinton ----- Serial Sex Offender

Dont forget

Lincoln..alleged bisexual/homosexual
FDR- handicapped

Yes we're biased toward Obama. So what?

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #31 baconeatingkaffir

Just out of curiosity, what talents has Obama exhibited at this point?

A chameleon-like ability to present himself well in speeches, "Presidential" body language, proper coastal liberal "nuance" in speech, and an air of thoughtfulness. Plus he's medium brown enough to have "black" street cred, without being "scary", so white people can cash in their guilt without being afraid of him. It takes a certain kind of manipulative ability to stand up in front of a crowd that thinks you're Jesus, and give them exactly what they want while appearing to be untouched by what they're asking of you.

When they say "talent", in the 21st century language, that means "Image Management".

Whether he is anything at all like his projected Political Self, we don't know. He doesn't even know who he is. We just bought him because he's shiny. Never mind all that "dangerous world" stuff, He's so AWESOME AND PERFECT! OBAAAAMAAAA!"

/South Park

re: #178 arf

Yes we're biased toward Obama. So what?

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

You captured the tone of the WP perfectly, arf. Their timing says f u like nothing else possibly could.
This is stunning:
"But Obama deserved tougher scrutiny than he got, especially of his undergraduate years, his start in Chicago and his relationship with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who was convicted this year of influence-peddling in Chicago. The Post did nothing on Obama's acknowledged drug use as a teenager."

This too:
"One gaping hole in coverage involved Joe Biden, Obama's running mate. When Gov. Sarah Palin was nominated for vice president, reporters were booking the next flight to Alaska. Some readers thought The Post went over Palin with a fine-tooth comb and neglected Biden. They are right; it was a serious omission. However, I do not agree with those readers who thought The Post did only hatchet jobs on her. There were several good stories on her, the best on page 1 by Sally Jenkins on how Palin grew up in Alaska."

I don't have luck posting links above (Firefox? iMac?) -- I hope you decide to post this article as a link.

I actually made a comment on this exact subject yesterday, from my own experience, so I'll link it.

This admission from "Old Blighty" and the pesky fact that the Euros have neo-nazi political parties that operate at the national level make me want to projectile-vomit every time some Holiwierdo gets on a "Now we don't have to appologise when we're overseas" tizzy.

OT:

/My computer is now so screwed up that it may end up as a dishwasher.

Don't ask...too many things to explain, and since I do not speak 'computer', I probably won't be back online until later this week, if I am lucky.

I am using NY Grampa's computer now, and am too short to really use it. Stupid optical mouse!

The whole ststem has to be reinstalled, and Dell was just impossible: over 4 1/2 hours on the phone last might, being sent from pillar to post...the disc should arrive at the end of next week, if we are lucky. Dell Hell? Too kind an explanation! Dell sucks big time.

As bad as this is, it is not even close to how badly this election turned out. The election takes first prize, with no competition.

See ya later, lizards!

Yes bit, does that really matter to the masses? John Murtha of PA was reelected after calling his district racist, then softened that a bit deciding they were just rednecks. Perhaps Brits are more discerning, I'll ask my British nephew-in-law if he's offended.re: #176 mattm

So now the British gov't just called all their citizens racist. Nice.

re: #183 NY Nana

Sorry to hear that.

Gateway was pretty cool. My comp crashed a while back. I had not, as I should have, made a disk. I called them - they sent me one.

My laptop Gateway came with a disk. I guess they figured out people weren't making a disk as they were told to, so they did it for us.

re: #181 Catttt

I actually made a comment on this exact subject yesterday, from my own experience, so I'll link it.

Great story, thanks for re-posting. It's a class system thing in Europe. Americans have an income system, not a class system. While our 'income system" often does create tackiness problems :) it's ultimately based on merit, which, of course makes for a more functionally free society.

"Affirmative" action fails because it fails to reward or even recognize the place of merit in successful ventures. The underlying bogus presumption of affirmative action efforts rests on the notion that success in our culture has to do w/class systems - Marxism in action in a country w/none of the class systems that so disgusted Mr. Marx. Oy vey but what a damned nuisance. And now we have Obama.

re: #183 NY Nana

Later, Nana.

re: #81 Pastorius

Peru.

How'd that work out again?

/

Hummm, and Jihad Watch too, and no one can discuss Creationism. That is a lot of bannings Charles. I am becomming disappointed in you.re:

re: #185 Catttt

Luckily my husband backed up everything to a lot of disks....but untill it all gets fixed? I am terrified! Irony is that a few of our kids raved about how great their Dells were, and we replaced mine with a new Dell, and hubby took the original Gateway. It fried about a month ago, finally, and we got him a new one, through Costco, made in the USA, with Microsoft XL Professional..most of theirs are Vista, but he wisely wanted no part of Vista.

I am on it now, and it is great...but my height, or lack of height, makes it hard for me to use .

His chair and I are not compatable! ;)

Going off line...too laborsome for lazy old me!

Thanks for the advice. I don't think I can use my grandson's high chair for a computer chair, darn it.

re: #187 Daisy

Later, Nana.

I am having wicked withdrawal symptom! ;)

See you later, lizards, when I feel the need to sit on 7 telephone books. I am 5 ft even...hubby is 5'10.

re: #81 Pastorius

Countries that elected minorities as heads of state or government?

Depends on one's definition of minority. If Jewish Prime Ministers count, both Britain and New Zealand did so in the 19th Century (Benjamin Disraeli and Julius Vogel, respectively --- Disraeli was baptized but vocally proud of his origin). France had Leon Blum before WW II and Pierre Mendes-France afterwards. The current French head honcho, Nicolas Sarkozy, is of mixed Hungarian-Greek Jewish-French origin. Australia had a Jewish Governor-General early on (Sir Isaac Isaacs).

It should be said that, until recently, few European states had racial minority populations of any kind to rival those in the USA in relative numbers. Such minorities as they had involved OTHER Caucasian groups with different language and culture (Alsatians in France, the Flemish-Walloon dispute in Belgium, ethnic Hungarians in Rumania,...)

re: #95 Pastorius

Charles,
Who was the White Natioalist? What was the article?

WND is actually run by an Arab American (evangelical Christian). Its tone is generally a bit hysterical, you cannot believe everthing you read there, and occasionally, in their eagerness to publish "red meat", they publish stuff by people they could really do without.

If, of course, every publication that has articles by, say, Pat Pukecannon becomes ipso facto off limits,... I do wish said publications would exhibit the same wisdom as National Review when they booted out Joseph Sobran ...

re: #189 CLLRusso

Hummm, and Jihad Watch too, and no one can discuss Creationism. That is a lot of bannings Charles. I am becomming disappointed in you.

I guess I'll just have to live with that.

50,000+ comments discussing creationism seems like I do allow discussion of the subject.

I have nothing to more to say about jihadwatch, except that if you find the discussion there more to your liking, you should spend your time there.

Horse Feathers!

They elected John Major didn't they? She son of an itinerant circus acrobat and a habitual of dwarfs.

It must be a s-l-o-w news day at 'aunty' (BBC) and some 'sprog jurno' decided to interview his word processor!

Sounds like a slow day at LGF as well.

Perhaps you should accuse someone of visiting the site that can't be named Charles, or ratchet up a name calling exercise in mutual name calling by throwing 'ye olde' chestnut of creationism . ID back into the ring?

Should be good for a laugh and a bit of heat generation sans light!

LOL

:)

re: #199 Aussie Infidel

Sounds like a slow day at LGF as well.

Perhaps you should accuse someone of visiting the site that can't be named Charles, or ratchet up a name calling exercise in mutual name calling by throwing 'ye olde' chestnut of creationism . ID back into the ring?

Should be good for a laugh and a bit of heat generation sans light

You could always go to the open thread and throw it back into the ring yourself. Right?...

Well maybe if he fit the mold instead of the mould...

re: #150 yma o hyd

Ahem.
What about institutionalised misogyny then?
Hillary? Sarah Palin?

Where's the first female President of the USA then?
There have been three in Europe so far already, not to mention Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi, that lady now governing Sierra Leone ...

Lets look at the guy making the complaint: Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

What would we expect him to say? He's just being a boring ass, saying something totally predictable.

Its tick the box politics. Until every country elects a representative from every minority then that country can be accused of some form of prejudice.

As for the LGF, it gets to bash the Brits for any past America bashing, and Brits get to bash back using Maggie as the stick.

At least it lets folk get stuff off their collective chests.

And its telling that even conservatives have a little thing to be glad about now that Obama has been elected. Its official now, America is not a racist country. ;-)

Maybe the GOP should put forth a lesbian Muslim creationist Marxist as their next candidate and they can tick a slew of politically correct boxes.

How can anyone look at this thread without feeling cynical?

The UK has had its Obama - only he was white. His name was Tony Blair.

re: #173 exredtory

If Britain can have a black Doctor Who, they could probably have a black PM some day.

David Tennant's black?!

re: #194 Charles

I guess I'll just have to live with that.

50,000+ comments discussing creationism seems like I do allow discussion of the subject.

I have nothing to more to say about jihadwatch, except that if you find the discussion there more to your liking, you should spend your time there.

Actually I like both Jihad Watch and LGF and will continue to read both - thank you very much. Somethings are worthy of you and some things are not.