I love happy news! Woot!

Could Option B become something of a Lizard war cry?

Awww...you didn't beat the reaper!

Didn't someone say something about a certain unqualified leader of a nation getting his mettle tested?

I'm sure they're shocked to find themselves not in paradise.

Enjoy hell, assholes!

Has the garbage been taken out yet? Is Paris burning?

Enjoy those 72 raisins.
I don't even think they will get them...since they didn't die as MARTYRS!

Suckers!

Enjoy the crazy bunch of virgins, you morons.

I vote for option B.

OK, as long as "martyrs" is interpreted to mean "the lowest scum imaginable."

The monsters who perpetrated the Bali nightclub bombings are ex-terrorists

Please. We don't call them terrorists anymore. The accepted term is "guys who happen to live in my neighborhood."

Since these are ex-terrorists, however, the term should actually be "guys who no longer live in my neighborhood."

Bali Bombers Put Down

Clever title.

/people are executed, animals are put down

hopefully they suffered horribly before expiring

re: #10 gmsc

The monsters who perpetrated the Bali nightclub bombings are ex-terrorists

Please. We don't call them terrorists anymore. The accepted term is "guys who happen to live in my neighborhood."

Since these are ex-terrorists, however, the term should actually be "guys who no longer live in my neighborhood."

Now THAT'S damn funny...

+1 from Sponge

re: #5 Sharmuta

I'm sure they're shocked to find themselves not in paradise.

Enjoy hell, assholes!

They'll find a 72 year old virgin waiting anxiously for them.

re: #12 _RememberTonyC

hopefully they suffered horribly before expiring

/firing squad, not likely

So how are they gonna whack these scumbags?

Imagine his surprise when his first virgin looked like Helen Thomas.

"I'll pass. I have 71 more."

Imagine his surprise when his next virgin looked like Mama from Throw Mama from the Train

"I don't like the trend here"

(and Satan put the two hottest ones first in line )

Paradise ain't all it's cracked up to be.

and the kicker :

Beer goggles are haraam, even in paradise.

It's not clear from the article if they actually have been executed yet?

re: #14 JCM

They'll find a 72 year old virgin waiting anxiously for them.

Wow. That "I just crapped my pants" look.

OT, but not quite OT

As long as the O man has no problem shmoozing with unrepentant terrorists, maybe he can show Hamas some love?

Of course, they misunderstood the message of the Religion of Peace, what a shock.

I am still waiting for the men who commit honor slayings to get more than a slap on the wrist. These men murdered tourists, after all, and countries cannot afford that. Honor killings only do away with uppity women, why, it is almost a public service!

Shoshana

re: #19 HBob

No, that's what the pants look like afterwords.

re: #2 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Could Option B become something of a Lizard war cry?

/may as well be, it seems Obama doesn't plan on using it, he's fixing to let them get back to Option A

re: #11 Killian Bundy

Bali Bombers Put Down

Clever title.

/people are executed, animals are put down

Exactly - and I hope they were put down like the rabid mangey dogs that they were. I hope they enjoy serving Iblis as they rot in hell.

Ali Fauzin, the younger brother of Amrozi and Mukhlas, travelled to the prison yesterday to deliver the shrouds handbaskets that the bodies will be wrapped dropped in before being flown back to their home village by helicopter hell.

Owner: The Norwegian Blue prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable bird, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!

Mr. Praline: Look, I took the liberty of examining that parrot when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there.

(pause)
Owner: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that bird down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!

Mr. Praline: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!

Owner: No no! 'E's pining!

Mr. Praline: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!

Reza was offended

"...they shouted “Allahu Akbar"

Just in case you missed this.

re: #15 Killian Bundy

maybe they were treated to some harsh treatment on their way to the shooting gallery

Well my vote is obvious.

re: #22 Sponge

No, that's what the pants look like afterwords.

Flush it quick! It's looking at me!

Why is it that these Islamic "clerics " are always encouraging Muslims to kill Infidels to defend Islam, from people who are not actuall attackinmg Islam?

anyone tell these morons that the virgins they get are all male ?
and hairy and stinky

man, are they gonna be pissed when they find out

Just like Communism, the mere existence of something else is a mortal affront. Such is they way of Tyranny. 'It only works if EVERYONE is on board.'

Six years later they get exterminated... California should follow this example.

I love the circle logic.

Islamic Clergy dork: "Kill the infidel in the name of 'Allah'"...

(Zombie / Wide eyed believer follows instructions to be a Terrorist and kills many then get's busted, terrorist is executed as a public service.)

Islamic clergy dork: "Kill the infidel who killed the terrorist who tried to kill the infidel in the name of 'Allah'! Follow their example against the aggressors...uh...uh...against the DEFENDERS!"

re: #24 Athos

Exactly - and I hope they were put down like the rabid mangey dogs that they were. I hope they enjoy serving Iblis as they rot in hell.

Rabid mangey dogs deserve an apology.

re: #28 FightingBack

"...they shouted “Allahu Akbar"

Just in case you missed this.

Remember, the Bali bombing would never have happened if the Palestinians had their own state. This is why President elect Obama needs to focus like a laser beam (just like Condi did) on rectifying that constant sore" that inflames these Jihadists to commit these acts of "resistance"

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

/sarc

“We will win the fight in this world or die as martyrs.”

I thought winning and blowing oneself up were the same thing for Islamists?

Some people argue over the effectiveness of capital punishment, but I can guarantee you that this will prevent 100% of all future crimes by the guys executed.

re: #41 ploome hineni

anyone checking the DNA of these to be executed?

how do we know who they are?

Hello -they all carried mirth certificates.

Feral and Rabid. I think this illustrates perfectly how it is that if God created everything why would have created evil if he is a good and loving God.

It is obvious that these men were not innately defective and they didn't have an organic brain disease. However, they were infected with ideology that turned them into mass murdering monsters - who knew exactly what they were doing.

If they had been raised in a loving home of almost any other variety of faith - they would have committed these atrocities.

And how can we call putting someone on a leash an atrocity by comparison? Depraved, yes. Atrocity, no.

I saw the brother of one of the victims on BBC America and he was pleading that the killers should not be executed. That makes us just as bad as them etc.

I get the feeling some of us have evolved past the point of knowing how to survive.

re: #39 Daisy

“We will win the fight in this world or die as martyrs.”

I thought winning and blowing oneself up were the same thing for Islamists?

MLM of Islam:

Mohammed level Marketing-
'And if you can get 2 of your friends to blow up the infidel and before they go, they get 2 of theirs each and so on...eventually you can become a double diamond distributor! Look at how much money Osama has now! Here...any one can do it! Here are some tapes for you to listen to. These are great motivators.'...

/

Meanwhile, Spanish appeaser of terrorists (Zapatero) is wetting himself because Obama returned his phone call congratulating him on succeeding Pres. Bush (Hombre-With-Balls-Grandes, as jihadists call Pres. Bush).

Spanish Wuss Zapatero wants to extend his limp hand to Pres Elect Obama & offer limp support, such as denying Spanish asylum to Osama's son Omar who wanted to plant his flag in Al Andalus this week.

That's showing jihadists some cojones...

re: #44 DistantThunder

Feral and Rabid. I think this illustrates perfectly how it is that if God created everything why would have created evil if he is a good and loving God.

It is obvious that these men were not innately defective and they didn't have an organic brain disease. However, they were infected with ideology that THEY ALLOWED to turn them into mass murdering monsters - who knew exactly what they were doing. It was all about free choice.

If they had been raised in a loving home of almost any other variety of faith - they would most likely have NOT have committed these atrocities.

And how can we call putting someone on a leash an atrocity by comparison? Depraved, yes. Atrocity, no.

Clarified that.

re: #45 jemima

I saw the brother of one of the victims on BBC America and he was pleading that the killers should not be executed.

I theorize that he's terrified of feeling good about the executions.

Put down like the dogs that they were,excellent riddance.

Wasn't it Patton who said something like this:

The point of war is not to die for you country, but to make the other bastard die for his.

re: #50 jainphx

Put down like the dogs that they were,excellent riddance.

However dogs are amoral - these men were evil personified.

re: #10 gmsc

The monsters who perpetrated the Bali nightclub bombings are ex-terrorists

Please. We don't call them terrorists anymore. The accepted term is "guys who happen to live in my neighborhood."

Since these are ex-terrorists, however, the term should actually be "guys who no longer live in my neighborhood."

These distinctions are crucial in the new ObamaNation.

re: #54 Daisy

These distinctions are crucial in the new ObamaNation.

You too can be a terrorist and be completely rehabed with enough money and time.

re: #46 Oh no...Sand People!

SNL could be funny again if they'd do that skit.

It's moments like these that make atheists sometimes wish there were a hell, for if there were these terrorists would be in it now.

re: #37 Kosh's Shadow

Rabid mangey dogs deserve an apology.

Yeah, it is an insult to rabid mangey dogs to compare them to those murderous cretins. I apologize to all of the rabid mangey dogs. At least when rabid mangey dogs are put down - they don't spend eternity willingly servicing Iblis.

re: #50 jainphx

Put down like the dogs that they were,excellent riddance.

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I realize you're using an expression but por favor, lizard:

Dogs are higher-order animals than jihadists--dogs are domesticated & crave human attention & respond to training.

Please don't insult dogs who serve people loyally, are kind to childre, are considered man's best friend, and work as working dogs for people with disabilities.

Australia was one of the nations that lost most people to the evil work of these monsters. And yet, we managed to find apologists for these goons. We had news reports that some of the surviving victims of the bombings made presentations to the Australian PM to lobby the Indonesians not to execute these men. Because that would reduce us to these men's evil.

So much for justice. We are all for moral equivalence. We are NOT like these evil men. We are NOT taking the life of innocent holiday goers providing work and opportunity for those in Bali. We ARE punishing the unrepentant violent men that so wantonly took the lives of hundreds. Good riddance to trash.

re: #55 DistantThunder

You too can be a terrorist and be completely rehabed with enough money and time.

Or be a best friend of one and become POTUS.

re: #51 USCMSNE

Wasn't it Patton who said something like this:

You have paraphrased St. Pancake.

re: #53 DistantThunder

Agreed!

re: #55 DistantThunder

You too can be a terrorist and be completely rehabed with enough money and time.

I remember someone posting on LGF that a 15-year-old should write to 0bama and ask, "When the 9/11 attacks happened, I was only 8. How long should I wait before I start listening to Osama Bin Laden's teachings and start my political career in his cave?"

Nov 8 - The firebrand cleric Abu Bakar Bashir has visited the families of the Bali bombers ahead of their imminent execution for attacks in 2002.

Reuters Video of Abu Bakar and his cult

re: #59 alegrias

Your absolutely right! I do apologize to dogs every where

re: #59 alegrias

All that, plus, they categorically despise dogs. So double no.

Unfortunately you will now see 'vox pops' of drunken, embarrassing Aussie 18-25 year olds on holidays all over the news, whooping and generally acting like idiots.

Aussies call them "Bogans". Americans would call them "Trash".

This is not actually a happy day, but a day for reflection.

re: #64 gmsc

I remember someone posting on LGF that a 15-year-old should write to 0bama and ask, "When the 9/11 attacks happened, I was only 8. How long should I wait before I start listening to Osama Bin Laden's teachings and start my political career in his cave?"

I like the way you think.

re: #68 self hating muslim

The media has an unerring way of getting it wrong, no?

Extremists gather to celebrate the return of the bodies of the Bali "Martyrs

My dog is standing on the edge of my chair right now trying to hug me. Please don't compare such a blessing with such evil as jihadists. (Okay now she's happy, she got her 2 cents in.)

re: #68 self hating muslim

Um- on what should we be reflecting?

enjoy option B ya maggots.

re: #66 jainphx

Your absolutely right! I do apologize to dogs every where

* * *
But you're right jihadists appear infected with rabies or other crazy-making diseases that makes them paranoid, frothing & lashing out violently at women & children & innocents.

Too bad jihadism isn't a fast-acting terminal disease to the perps.

re: #65 Bill Amos

Nov 8 - The firebrand cleric Abu Bakar Bashir has visited the families of the Bali bombers ahead of their imminent execution for attacks in 2002.

Reuters Video of Abu Bakar and his cult

how are you saying in american...rendition?

#76

Rabies and cooties are good explanations.

re: #73 Sharmuta

The murders of innocent Australians by terrorists.

Sic semper tyrannis!

Muslims worldwide to seethe over the deaths of the freedom fighters?

they should get a few virgins extra for this defiant act alone.

re: #78 Daisy

The murders of innocent Australians by terrorists.

Well- I'd agree with that, but I was wondering what "self hating muslim" was thinking.

re: #79 Intrepid

Sic semper tyrannis!

sic semper nutbagus

re: #67 Daisy

All that, plus, they categorically despise dogs. So double no.

* * *
Please note--I just learned today, in COVERTSIDE, a magazine of foxhunting--that Moroccans hunt wild game with a breed of dog called Aidi. Some American writer joined Moroccans on a hunt and wrote about it. Nice article with beautiful pictures.

So at least North African Moroccans who hunt with dogs are not all rabid anti-dog haters.

re: #72 jemima

My dog is standing on the edge of my chair right now trying to hug me. Please don't compare such a blessing with such evil as jihadists. (Okay now she's happy, she got her 2 cents in.)

Mine's yellin' at me for some dinner - then I get kisses and she gets to crash on the ugly sofa with a round belly, full of gratitude and love.

Big difference, eh Mohammad?

re: #75 alegrias

Even Rabbid dogs have some redeeming qualities. These animals, not so much.

Barack messiah should remain silent on these proceedings

re: #75 alegrias

* * *
But you're right jihadists appear infected with rabies or other crazy-making diseases that makes them paranoid, frothing & lashing out violently at women & children & innocents.

Too bad jihadism isn't a fast-acting terminal disease to the perps.

The Koran is like the leprosy of 'Religion' (hate using the word religion for Islam)... only less curable apparently... unless you 'leave the colony' ...then the followers find you and either reinfect you by force or kill you...

Well. They meet a bad end & may they be forgotten.

Who ?

OT
The San Gabriel Mountains of California at mid day. You can get a sense of how dry this mountain range naturally is, in this view. (The Towercam, Pacific time zone.)

re: #84 Miss Trixie

Mine's yellin' at me for some dinner - then I get kisses and she gets to crash on the ugly sofa with a round belly, full of gratitude and love.

Big difference, eh Mohammad?

Mines on the floor licking his... um... nevermind.

re: #45 jemima

I saw the brother of one of the victims on BBC America and he was pleading that the killers should not be executed. That makes us just as bad as them etc.

I get the feeling some of us have evolved past the point of knowing how to survive.

Maybe he thought execution was too good for them?
/

re: #78 Daisy

The murders of innocent Australians by terrorists.

I've reflected on that very thing several times these past many years. I have dozens of Aussie friends and was relieved none of them were killed in this attack, nor were any of my Indonesian friends. For that I am grateful.

However, one friend's brother was.

So I'm going to think about her today, and her family. And be satisfied with justice.

I wish the term "martyr" were not used in connection with the Bali bombers. They are thugs and criminals who murdered a lot of innocent people. Their execution is punishment for their crimes and their religion is no excuse for what they did.

re: #68 self hating muslim

Reflecting? No, this is a happy day. Three cowardly islamofascists got their just reward and are now in hell servicing Iblis.

Unfortunately you will now see 'vox pops' of drunken, embarrassing Aussie 18-25 year olds on holidays all over the news, whooping and generally acting like idiots.

Frankly, they have the freedom to enjoy their holidays and behave how they wish to behave - and the consequences of that behavior does not include being targeted by cowardly wankers who don't think they should have the freedom to holiday, or drink, or carouse, because they should all be embracing islamofascism.

It sounds as if you prefer the absence of freedom or inflicting your morality on others just like other fascists.

re: #79 Intrepid

Sic semper tyrannis!

What does that mean? I knew a guy on a different board that used that as his nic.

re: #87 Oh no...Sand People!

The Koran is like the leprosy of 'Religion' (hate using the word religion for Islam)... only less curable apparently... unless you 'leave the colony' ...then the followers find you and either reinfect you by force or kill you...

* * *
It's a totalitarian expansionist ideology that canonnically requires a perpetual state of war against unbelievers. Since 711 or 600 or whenever Mohammed hatched it in Frankenstein's laboratory.

And yet ignorant folks consider the US imperialist, warring, etc!

re: #95 x-wing

What does that mean? I knew a guy on a different board that used that as his nic.

Literal translation: "thus, ever (or always), to tyrants." It is sometimes

Long version: "Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis," which translated means "Thus always death comes to tyrants.

What does that mean? I knew a guy on a different board that used that as his nic.

Death to tyrants

Now that they are offcially former terrorists, their names still belong on some watchlists.

I'm thinking voter rolls. Especially in Chicago.

re: #95 x-wing

What does that mean? I knew a guy on a different board that used that as his nic.

Thus be it ever unto tyrants. It was said by John Wilkes Booth as he jumped down from the President's booth after shooting Pres. Lincoln.

I wanted to redeem the phrase, so to speak, use it against true tyranny.

re: #92 ploome hineni

many north africans are BErbers, and are fighting forced arabization an imposition of islam

* * *
Thank you! I did not realize dogs were used in any moslem country.
I love Berber/North Africa's influence on Spanish culture, and am crazy about Moroccan foods so similar to many Spanish dishes.

re: #64 gmsc

I remember someone posting on LGF that a 15-year-old should write to 0bama and ask, "When the 9/11 attacks happened, I was only 8. How long should I wait before I start listening to Osama Bin Laden's teachings and start my political career in his cave?"

Whoa. Nice.
Hmmm,... I've got a kid who was 8 on 9/11/2001.
Hmmm...

I posted one the lolseal thread that I hope the rope wiped the creepy grin from those bastards' faces, but apparently they were given the dignity of being shot. So I hope someone on the firing squad shot them in the teeth.
---
As for dogs and Muslims, bear in mind the dog-fighting is a big entertainment among the Afghans.

re: #98 Bill Amos

It is an infamous phrase; the first words uttered by booth after he shot Lincoln.

re: #102 wolfie

Whoa. Nice.
Hmmm,... I've got a kid who was 8 on 9/11/2001.
Hmmm...

Feel free to steal the idea! Please. PLEASE!

re: #83 alegrias

* * *
Please note--I just learned today, in COVERTSIDE, a magazine of foxhunting--that Moroccans hunt wild game with a breed of dog called Aidi. Some American writer joined Moroccans on a hunt and wrote about it. Nice article with beautiful pictures.

So at least North African Moroccans who hunt with dogs are not all rabid anti-dog haters.

I had to look that breed up- beautiful dogs. I'm also a fan of another African dog- the Basenji.

Where the hell is A Charles "the Hammer" Martel, when you need one?

re: #97 gmsc

Thank you.

Again the Iman asks others to do his dirty work. Sort of like a lib.

re: #88 Ojoe

It is dry, but not barren.

re: #104 Ojoe

It is an infamous phrase; the first words uttered by booth after he shot Lincoln.

It's part of the state seal of Virginia (first recommended by George Mason in 1776), the motto of the USS Virginia, the motto of Allentown, PA, and is referenced in Maryland's official state song.

re: #103 exredtory

I posted one the lolseal thread that I hope the rope wiped the creepy grin from those bastards' faces, but apparently they were given the dignity of being shot. So I hope someone on the firing squad shot them in the teeth.
---
As for dogs and Muslims, bear in mind the dog-fighting is a big entertainment among the Afghans.

made the mistake of watching some show on SE Asian cuisine some years ago. Guy had crates full of K9 "livestock" behind his restaurant. Threw scraps to his pet dog.

re: #88 Ojoe

Well. They meet a bad end & may they be forgotten.

Who ?

OT
The San Gabriel Mountains of California at mid day. You can get a sense of how dry this mountain range naturally is, in this view. (The Towercam, Pacific time zone.)

Besides always providing an unexpected break in the threads, your Towercam posts of the San Gabriel Mountains are always a welcome sight here in grey Paris. From here, even the smog looks good!

My reaction to this is the same as it is to Hussein's hanging. Death, death and more death out of the Islamic world. Even though this is deserved justice, it is still more death. When will the islamic world wake up and realize that the only time they are mentioned in the news is when death and destruction are the topic? No scientific or artistic accomplishments, just death.

The one bright spot these days is Iraq, and look at the American blood spilt to make that happen.

re: #104 Ojoe

It is an infamous phrase; the first words uttered by booth after he shot Lincoln.

It's also the state motto of Virginia.

re: #88 Ojoe

Well. They meet a bad end & may they be forgotten.

Who ?

OT
The San Gabriel Mountains of California at mid day. You can get a sense of how dry this mountain range naturally is, in this view. (The Towercam, Pacific time zone.)

Ojoe - get some new mountains, already!

re: #71 Bill Amos

Extremists gather to celebrate the return of the bodies of the Bali "Martyrs

We should have included some dead pigs in the coffins.

I was in Bali and Java months after the bombings. I saw LOTS of FUCK TERRORISM tee-shirts, but I did get some major stink-eye. On a ferry between Bali and Java I was with some Aussies, and we were surrounded by hundreds of very rough looking fellows. Nothing happened. More of an intimidation deal. 'Twas quite disturbing...but I've gotten the same vibe here abouts too.

/glad the monsters were put down.

re: #99 abolitionist

Now that they are offcially former terrorists, their names still belong on some watchlists.

I'm thinking voter rolls. Especially in Chicago.

BWAAAHAAA!

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Don't these people have jobs?

re: #116 gmsc

Ojoe - get some new mountains, already!

Or something really neat looking. (two webcam views from different locations.)

re: #120 NoSubmission

They will be one of the top priorities of the 'Wealth Redistribution' that President Obama has in store for all of us!

re: #116 gmsc

Cool! Nice name on that range,

Have you seen
This?

Very chilly today, but heat at the center.

re: #100 Intrepid

It has been the motto of the Commonwealth of Virginia since Independence. (That's where Booth got it from.)

re: #113 ryannon

Check out
Old Faithful Geyser

re: #120 NoSubmission

CodePINKos protesting outside Congressman Rahm Emanual's office in Chicago

re: #126 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Already? It's been all of a day and a half, right? LOL

re: #100 Intrepid

Thus be it ever unto tyrants. It was said by John Wilkes Booth as he jumped down from the President's booth after shooting Pres. Lincoln.

I wanted to redeem the phrase, so to speak, use it against true tyranny.

but, I think Booth felt the sons of the confederacy would welcome him as a savior.

These nutjobs are "martyres' too a vast majority. Luckily, they executed these fools the day AFTER friday prayers. Gives the clerics ample time to cool off before they say anything out of context..

BUWUHAA !
yeah,
right.
They will tell their flocks a thing or two so the real story of seething starts NEXT saturday .Lookout non muslim minorities of africa/asia.

re: #127 NoSubmission

That's at least two years old. He's not popular with "progressives."

re: #104 Ojoe

It is an infamous phrase; the first words uttered by booth after he shot Lincoln.

I suppose the Ruling Class may well decide it is wicked. If Booth said it, it must be. Who knows or cares about Jefferson and Patrick Henry anyway?

Yes, you're right. I'd better get used to it. We'll have to change our Virginia state flag and seal.
It's racist. It's evil.

Everything is. Everything from the past.
They were all evil.

hey hey ho ho

“Their fighting spirit in defending Islam should be followed,” the ageing bearded preacher said. “We will win the fight in this world or die as martyrs.”

I vote for option B.

You know, that would make a good survey ...

}:)     [Another good reason not to visit Indonesia ... ]

re: #125 Ojoe

Check out
Old Faithful Geyser

Not the same for me: I used to live out your way, up in the (old) Hollywood Hills below Mulholland Drive. I miss it, and California as well...

re: #130 wolfie

Well in the big picture many people said that.

Sept. 11 is one of my brother's birthdays too.

Don't you warmongers know that their death diminishes us all?

We are all, all of us responsible for the Bali bombing.
Why do they hate us so much?
We must find the root cause of their hatred.
///

Now I'm going to lift a cold beer to the good fellows on the firing squad and barbecue up a nice fat pork chop.

Darwin Ackbar!

Well, later all.

re: #125 Ojoe

My eldest son & I sat in the leftmost seats on the right just two weeks ago in that shot.

}:)     [Wasn't as much snow then ... ]

re: #134 whiterasta

A Scottish Prof. of mine in college called the death penalty

"Basic social hygiene."

BBL

re: #133 Ojoe

Does your brother remember 9/11/2001 ?
(Many, if not most, have forgotten.)

You will not die as martyrs, you will die as idiots.

Can people really be against the death penalty when it comes to losers like these guys?

re: #138 wolfie

Oh yes he does.

Really BBL.

Chores.

re: #137 Ojoe

Yes and there is zero recidivism, too as an added benefit.

re: #83 alegrias

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Please note--I just learned today, in COVERTSIDE, a magazine of foxhunting--that Moroccans hunt wild game with a breed of dog called Aidi. Some American writer joined Moroccans on a hunt and wrote about it. Nice article with beautiful pictures.

So at least North African Moroccans who hunt with dogs are not all rabid anti-dog haters.

The Muslim Hadith has a whole chapter on how dogs are to be killed. The exception is for dogs that are used for guarding farm animals and hunting.

Mohammad hated dogs and initially ordered them all killed, but backpedaled on the subject of necessary working dogs.

No doubt dogs could sense the evil in Mohamed. Smelt him out like a skunk.

re: #142 SpringheelJack

The Muslim Hadith has a whole chapter on how dogs are to be killed. The exception is for dogs that are used for guarding farm animals and hunting.

Mohammad hated dogs and initially ordered them all killed, but backpedaled on the subject of necessary working dogs.

May the dogs get their revenge.

Too bad they didn't behead.

It'd be more humane, and, might have been filmed.

re: #142 SpringheelJack

The Muslim Hadith has a whole chapter on how dogs are to be killed. The exception is for dogs that are used for guarding farm animals and hunting.

Mohammad hated dogs and initially ordered them all killed, but backpedaled on the subject of necessary working dogs.

The dog is among God's greatest gifts to mankind. That Mohammed hated them is telling. Piss be upon him.

The authorities who had the Bali bombers executed are in violation of Islam and better watch their backs.

Hadith Volume 1, Book 3, Number 111:

Narrated Ash-Sha'bi:

Abu Juhaifa said, "I asked Ali, 'Have you got any book (which has been revealed to the Prophet apart from the Qur'an)?' 'Ali replied, 'No, except Allah's Book or the power of understanding which has been bestowed (by Allah) upon a Muslim or what is (written) in this sheet of paper (with me).' Abu Juhaifa said, "I asked, 'What is (written) in this sheet of paper?' Ali replied, it deals with The Diyya (compensation (blood money) paid by the killer to the relatives of the victim), the ransom for the releasing of the captives from the hands of the enemies, and the law that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for the killing of (a disbeliever).

re: #139 freedombilly

You will not die as martyrs, you will die as idiots.

Can people really be against the death penalty when it comes to losers like these guys?

There are many people that hold that there is nothing that one can do that will forfeit one's right to life.

I am not one of them, and hold that there are acts that one can do that will forfeit one's right to life.

The one's committing such acts rely on the former to protect themselves from those that think like me.

re: #146 rawmuse

Love my dog. Sitting right here beside me. Should have given him a Muslim name just out of spite.

re: #143 pat

re: #143 pat

No doubt dogs could sense the evil in Mohamed. Smelt him out like a skunk.

Mo was a desert bandit chief. Dogs must have plagued him during his career by alerting his victims as his raiders approached.

re: #145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Too bad they didn't behead.

It'd be more humane, and, might have been filmed.

They wanted to be beheaded because it was islamic. I'm glad they were denied the "pleasure".

I wonder if the Islamists are outraged of the outcome of Colorado's State Senate District 14 race.

Speaking of dogs, did anyone see that recent vid of Barney biting the WaPo reporter?
Barney actually drew blood, and the reporter required medical attention from the white house doc.
Good boy!

re: #142 SpringheelJack

After the great conquests, when the Arab elite had an abundance of slaves, many imams preached that dogs were no longer necessary for these tasks and therefore should be exterminated. (Exceptions were always made for the poorer classes.)

re: #151 Sharmuta

They wanted to be beheaded because it was islamic. I'm glad they were denied the "pleasure".

Good point Shar. But, the thing is...when Muslims behead people, there's always a video camera nearby.

Aw, shit, you're right. I wouldn't watch it. Trying to act all bad. Still haven't watched the ones that are available.

I was wrong, it was a Rueters reporter. Your text to link...

There's nothing to worry about, folks. You see, after Obama is sworn in this January, the whole world will love us again and this whole "terrorism" business will simply go away!

re: #156 rawmuse

How many hours do you think President Bush spent in the Oval Office teaching Barney that trick.

re: #142 SpringheelJack

The Muslim Hadith has a whole chapter on how dogs are to be killed. The exception is for dogs that are used for guarding farm animals and hunting.

Mohammad hated dogs and initially ordered them all killed, but backpedaled on the subject of necessary working dogs.

My guess is that dogs hated Mohammed, and he hated them back.
Dogs are an excellent judge of character.

re: #143 pat

No doubt dogs could sense the evil in Mohamed. Smelt him out like a skunk.

precisely.
look how quickly he banned man's best friend after centuries of dogs being loved in the middle east. and revered.
he couldn't see the gift that dogs are to people.
he had an agenda that didn't have time for dogs.
i'm sure one bit him. they could sense his calloused cruel nature.

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think the killer instinct toward rodent like creatures comes naturally in that breed.

OT:

Who Cares about Reality? We Have Laws!

We live in the age of "there awwta be a law."

Too many people earning too little money? "There awwta be a law to raise the minimum wage."

Businesses hire fewer people because they can't afford to pay the higher minimum wage? "There awwta be a law to expand jobless benefits and free health insurance."

Taxes must be hiked -- and the national debt sent into the trillions -- to finance all these expanding and growing "free" benefits? "There awwta be a law to print more money."

Inflation returns at higher levels than we ever had before? "There awwta be a law to ..." (We're not there yet, but check back in a couple of years)

I have an easier solution. Let's just outlaw pain, suffering and economic trouble. Let's pass a law requiring the stock market to keep going UP so that people don't lose money in their retirement accounts. Let's pass a law requiring that all medical care will be free. If this makes doctors unhappy, then let's just pass a law requiring that doctors be happy.

If laws are the answer to everything, and if laws can be counted on to alter outcomes without altering the nature of reality, then why not just have one law to take care of everything?

re: #159 Kosh's Shadow

And sometimes they may dig things up that they didn't even bury.

Someone on the previous thread mentioned Cindy Sheehan. i know she lost her election but i haven't heard by how much. Turns out she came in third.

Nancy Pelosi (Dem) 148,301 71.9%
Dana Walsh (Rep) 19,438 9.4%
Philip Z. Berg (Lib) 4,661 2.2%
Cindy Sheehan (Ind) 34,135 16.5%

Dana and Philip must be devastated, losing to Nancy I can see but coming in behind Cindy, UGH

re: #164 Fredlike

Someone on the previous thread mentioned Cindy Sheehan. i know she lost her election but i haven't heard by how much. Turns out she came in third.

Nancy Pelosi (Dem) 148,301 71.9%
Dana Walsh (Rep) 19,438 9.4%
Philip Z. Berg (Lib) 4,661 2.2%
Cindy Sheehan (Ind) 34,135 16.5%

Dana and Philip must be devastated, losing to Nancy I can see but coming in behind Cindy, UGH

Looks like she came in 2nd.

re: #165 gmsc

Sorry can't count.

Yes, the US Embassy in Jakarta issued a new warning to US citizens in the country to be careful and vigilant.

I would imagine the other embassies have done the same.

We're having some folks from Indonesia visit our public School District, for "multiculturalism." The moonbats who set this up are short on accommodations, and asked for volunteer hosts. My family said it was OK, but that the women in our families were equals and would that be a problem? And, there's the problem of the dog, too?

re: #160 nyc redneck

precisely.
look how quickly he banned man's best friend after centuries of dogs being loved in the middle east. and revered.
he couldn't see the gift that dogs are to people.
he had an agenda that didn't have time for dogs.
i'm sure one bit him. they could sense his calloused cruel nature.

Further proof that dogs are angels living on the earth.

More good news.. Uday and Qusay are still dead.

Obama pivots on a missile...

You've all seen the video of Obama pledging to "cancel the unproven missile defeze system", calling it unnecessary and provocative. We'll not the subtle shift in his position today,

Kaczynski's office on its Web site says that during the same conversation, Obama told Kaczynski that he intends to continue plans for a missile shield in eastern Europe.

Obama's adviser denied the report.

"President Kaczynski raised missile defense, but President-elect Obama made no commitment on it. His position is as it was throughout the campaign: That he supports deploying a missile defense system when the technology is proved to be workable," McDonough said.

Ah, he will support it when it's proven. But will he still cancel it until then?

re: #169 bellamags

Not too many dogs require women to wear bags.

Maybe they'll meet up with these guys.
[Link: www.theonion.com...]

We an only hope.

re: #168 FightingBack

Shouldn't be a problem. Most Indonesians are not that "devout" and many own dogs.

Depends whether or not they are fundamentalist Muslims.

I'm glad the [bigoted word]s are slow-roasting in hell. Islamic countries have proven themselves to be places where tourism shouldn't flourish. The mohamediams only have themselves to blame.

he supports deploying a missile defense system when the technology is proved to be workable," McDonough said.

Workable in whose favor?

re: #172 FightingBack

Not too many dogs require women to wear bags.

nope. dogs see through everything and indeed can sense evil.

Iran blasts Obama's nuclear criticism

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iran's parliament speaker has criticized U.S. President-elect Barack Obama for saying that Iran's development of a nuclear weapon is unacceptable.

Ali Larijani said Saturday that Obama should apply his campaign message of change to U.S. dealings with Iran.

"Obama must know that the change that he talks about is not simply a superficial changing of colors or tactics," Larijani said in comments carried by the semi-official Mehr News Agency.

"What is expected is a change in strategy, not the repetition of objections to Iran's nuclear program, which will be taking a step in the wrong direction."

Let's hope Obama realizes he wasn't elected to represent the Iranians.

re: #178 Kenneth

I resent that color remark.

re: #178 Kenneth

Iran blasts Obama's nuclear criticism

Let's hope Obama realizes he wasn't elected to represent the Iranians.

Good luck with that.

re: #179 FightingBack

I resent that color remark.

Can he go 24 hours without mentioning his race?

Can the media?

re: #174 Nancy

I'm sure there are a lot of nice ones. We submitted one question for the "Multicultural Conference Day" (because the handlers won't let random folks anywhere near them, actually; questions must be in writing.)
"What part of our American culture do Indonesians admire and copy the most?"

There's a saying something like "A conservative is just a liberal that's been mugged."
Let's hope that O-___ gets a good mugging from the Russians, Iranians and Pali's before he takes the oath of office.

OT: AIG reportedly in talks over new bailout

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- American International Group Inc. reportedly is seeking a new bailout from the U.S. government less than two months after the Federal Reserve came to the insurance giant's rescue with an $85 billion loan, according to a published report.
The Financial Times reported on its Web site late Friday, citing people close to the situation, that AIG executives were in negotiations Friday night with authorities over a plan that could involve a debt-for-equity swap and the government's purchase of mortgage-backed securities from AIG.
The FT said talks might still collapse, but noted that the insurer was pressing for a decision before it posts third-quarter results on Monday.
American International Group Inc. is expected to report third-quarter loss of 90 cents a share, according to analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters.
Leading industry analysts have said that turmoil in equity and credit markets has been hampering AIG's efforts to sell some of its businesses, a crucial part of the insurer's plan to repay billions of dollars in expensive government loans.
Rival insurers that may be considering bidding for AIG businesses are now facing their own problems as slumping stock prices and wider credit spreads cut into capital, Andrew Kligerman of UBS wrote to investors about a week ago.

We've still got a long way to go folks. I now think we are looking at 2010 before things significantly improve economically, and that is assuming there is no tax increase.

If taxes get increased, it's the 193o's again.

re: #181 Silhouette

Can he go 24 hours without mentioning his race?

Can the media?

No, everyone is absolutely obsessed by Obama's race...who gives a rats ass...it is his loooney policies that concern me...but I guess I am a closet racists because I don't see his greatness.

re: #153 rawmuse

Speaking of dogs, did anyone see that recent vid of Barney biting the WaPo reporter?
Barney actually drew blood, and the reporter required medical attention from the white house doc.
Good boy!

I wonder what that reporter did to poor little Barney. He hosts videos for children. Biting reporters just doesn't seem his style.

/dogs know who to trust - and who not.

re: #178 Kenneth

Iran blasts Obama's nuclear criticism

Let's hope Obama realizes he wasn't elected to represent the Iranians.

I hope he realizes that terrorist attacks in big cities are going to kill his buddies, supporters and their kin, and history will remember his name...poorly.

Revision of Option B: Die alone as martyrs.

re: #187 Shay4l

Shh. Not his middle name.

Credit Suisse shuts down bond fund

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) - Swiss bank Credit Suisse Group said Saturday that it is shutting down a bond fund and its subfunds after their value was crushed by the global financial crisis, according to a published report.

The bank said it will close the CS Bond Fund (Lux) Target Return because the lack of liquidity in the market has made it impossible to sell assets to meet redemption requests, Reuters reported.

"In the course of the last days and weeks investors have significantly sold assets in a flight to liquidity. The volume of redemptions has meant that many subfunds have become too small to operate on practical and economic terms," Credit Suisse said in a statement.

Europe's financial problems are just coming to the surface.

re: #156 rawmuse

I was wrong, it was a Rueters reporter. Your text to link...

That answers just exactly what the reporter did. Only a fool goes straight for a dog's face without introducing himself.

re: #184 3 wood

OT: AIG reportedly in talks over new bailout

We've still got a long way to go folks. I now think we are looking at 2010 before things significantly improve economically, and that is assuming there is no tax increase.

If taxes get increased, it's the 193o's again.

Yep - New Deal 2 and likely a closer embracing of fascism than was attempted by FDR...

Now like then, it could be the SCOTUS as the only branch of government not rushing to embrace this 'change'.

re: #186 galloping granny

I wonder what that reporter did to poor little Barney. He hosts videos for children. Biting reporters just doesn't seem his style.

/dogs know who to trust - and who not.

If you see the video, the reporter, with the lights and cameras behind him, looms over Barney and reaches his hand down at his head, presumably to try to pat or pet his head. Anyone who knows anything about dogs would never lean over a dog and reach their hand down at their head from above like that.

re: #186 galloping granny

I wonder what that reporter did to poor little Barney. He hosts videos for children. Biting reporters just doesn't seem his style.

/dogs know who to trust - and who not.

A reporter?

Did they get Barney a shot?

re: #193 Shay4l

If you see the video, the reporter, with the lights and cameras behind him, looms over Barney and reaches his hand down at his head, presumably to try to pat or pet his head. Anyone who knows anything about dogs would never lean over a dog and reach their hand down at their head from above like that.

Yup - just watched the video and posted the same thing. Reporter got exactly what he asked for.

re: #194 Silhouette

A reporter?

Did they get Barney a shot?

LOL!

re: #192 Athos

A lot of them could go any minute. Their replacements will get with the program.

re: #186 galloping granny

I wonder what that reporter did to poor little Barney.

He stuck his hand right in Barney's face.

/dogs really dig that

Franklin Bank closed, 18th failure this year

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Houston-based Franklin Bank S.S.B. was closed by regulators Friday, the 18th bank failure this year amid the ongoing credit crisis.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation said in a statement that Franklin Bank had total assets of $5.1 billion as of Sept. 30 and $3.7 billion in total deposits.

And:

Security Pacific Bank seized by FDIC

AN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and state regulators seized Los Angeles-based Security Pacific Bank late Friday -- one of two banks to fail that day and the 19th to fail so far this year.
Pacific Western Bank, also based in Los Angeles, will assume all of the deposits of Security Pacific, the FDIC said in a statement.

I fully expect to see 100 or more banks fold before this is over.

re: #199 3 wood

I fully expect to see 100 or more banks fold before this is over.

How many closed during the S&L crisis?

re: #199 3 wood

Franklin Bank closed, 18th failure this year

I fully expect to see 100 or more banks fold before this is over.

I'm liking cash more and more.

re: #200 Silhouette

How many closed during the S&L crisis?

I'm still looking for the specific number, but I found this little gem from back in September -

Wilbur Ross Sees About 1000 Bank Closures

re: #201 galloping granny

I'm liking cash more and more.

I bet you really love gold. Problem is it's hard to find. Some places you pay for it and when the new shipment comes in, they supposedly send you your order.

Hey all, check out the new Palin bumper sticker, bit pricey, but, I ordered one, I love it!
[Link: www.discountbookdistributors.com...]

Coleman loses attempt to block 32 votes from count

The request from Coleman's campaign said Minneapolis elections director Cynthia Reichert called its office at 7:45 p.m. Friday and reported that 32 ballots had been found and would be counted the next morning.

"We were actually told they had been riding around in her car for several days, which raised all kinds of integrity questions," said Coleman's attorney, Fritz Knaak.

/keep counting until you find the right number, that's the Bonkey way

Why would you pay $5 for a bumpersticker? Can't you just make one?

hi all ,
do we need a neo-neo conservatism? We lost the pacific coast and the Northeast region is long time lost. I read somewhere today without the cosmopolitan voters (urban and suburban) and the less religious, GOP will be a minority party with majority only in south.

re: #205 Killian Bundy

Coleman loses attempt to block 32 votes from count

/keep counting until you find the right number, that's the Bonkey way

Gah! They're shameless!

re: #206 jemima

Why would you pay $5 for a bumpersticker? Can't you just make one?

Because I like it.

Obama plans quick action on economy

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- President-elect Barack Obama pledged quick action to revive the ailing U.S. economy on Friday, emerging from a meeting with key economic advisors and saying a stimulus package would be his first action as president.
"I want to see a stimulus package sooner rather than later," Obama said. "If it does not get done in a lame duck session [of Congress], it will be the first thing I get done as president of the United States."
Flanked by advisors including former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and Xerox Chairman and CEO Anne Mulcahy, Obama said the American middle class needs a "rescue plan" including job-creation and an extension of unemployment insurance benefits. He also pledged to stick with the tax policies unveiled during his historic run for the White House and said he'd "review" the implementation of the Bush administration's plans to stabilize financial markets.

Putting aside President-elect Obama's Marxist positions and my distain for them, I'm starting to feel a little sorry for the guy.

There is not "stimulus package" in the world that will fix this situation. The New Deal was pretty much a failure, it was WWII that ended the Great Depression.

Obama is running a clear risk of raising expectations and then getting crushed by the inability to make things happen. You have a year to 2 year time lag from when you decide to undertake a fiscal policy stimulus via spending and the impact hits the economy.

re: #200 Silhouette

How many closed during the S&L crisis?

I don't recall, but that situation was peanuts compared to this.

re: #210 CapeCoddah

Because I like it.

Okeydokey!

re: #205 Killian Bundy

If you had voted, and found out that some hack bureaucrat rolled with it for days, would you not want it to count?

The votes were not very, uh, secure. Were they?

The votes should not be counted.

She should be fired.

re: #211 3 wood

Obama plans quick action on economy

Putting aside President-elect Obama's Marxist positions and my distain for them, I'm starting to feel a little sorry for the guy.

There is not "stimulus package" in the world that will fix this situation. The New Deal was pretty much a failure, it was WWII that ended the Great Depression.

Obama is running a clear risk of raising expectations and then getting crushed by the inability to make things happen. You have a year to 2 year time lag from when you decide to undertake a fiscal policy stimulus via spending and the impact hits the economy.

What I'm finding about the S&L crisis from the 80's states quite clearly that we are STILL paying for that.. . . . gonna take one hell of a stimulus package to rescue 1000 banks, the world economy, the mortgage mess and both the insurance and auto industries.

Found it!

Bank failures per year for the past century

It was over 200 bank failures a year for six years ('86-'91) with two of those years over 400 bank and thrift failures.

They were smaller banks, I believe, for the most part, than are failing now.

re: #184 3 wood

How bad will Europe be hurt when the governments of a few South American and Eastern Europe default on their debts? The temporary lowering of oil prices may have bought them a little time, but many of those countries will eventually have to repudiate their debts... how bad will the fallout from that be?

re: #212 3 wood

I don't recall, but that situation was peanuts compared to this.

Haven't read the whole thing, but looks like close on 1000 or so. Still not entirely resolved.
[Link: 74.125.45.104...]

re: #211 3 wood

Wondering why he didn't name a Treasury Secretary yesterday, like the financial markets were anticipating?

Back biting over Barack Obama's Treasury Secretary gives him his first headache

/fiddling while Rome burns

re: #207 Iron Fist

The Islamic faith is a creed of blood and death. They don't usually put it that bluntly, but that is what it is. The question is "What can we do to change this?"

I don't know the ultimate answer to that question but while we are puzzeling at it killing them, like in this example, is a good place to start.

The unfortunate fact is that, since it is a political system combined with a religious faith, you cannot question the faith without having the government power come down on you with all its might. So, let's just say, reformation is "unlikely".

The only way in the end for the people in those areas to be free of the 7th century death cult is unthinkable for the rest of the world.

That this atrocity happened in 2002, rather than say in 1882 has meant a difference. The cause of Justice has been left to the local authorities, who have not disappointed the Civilized World. All to the good. Can't help but thinking though that in earlier times, the result would have been a punitive war with Bali being incorporated into Australia in short order after the execution of that nitwit "Cleric."

-S-

re: #217 Silhouette

Found it!

Bank failures per year for the past century

It was over 200 bank failures a year for six years ('86-'91) with two of those years over 400 bank and thrift failures.

They were smaller banks, I believe, for the most part, than are failing now.

That is because all of the smaller banks failed back in the 80s - there are very few smaller banks left to fail these days.

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Wondering why he didn't name a Treasury Secretary yesterday, like the financial markets were anticipating?

Back biting over Barack Obama's Treasury Secretary gives him his first headache

/fiddling while Rome burns

We're gonna be seeing a lot of that.

re: #205 Killian Bundy

/keep counting until you find the right number, that's the Bonkey way

I remember back in the 70's they were doing some shore line dredging along Lake Michigan in Chicago and pulled up a whole bunch of old ballot boxes from the 1960 election that apparently had been dumped off a pier.

I know of one precinct in Chicago where the judges (all
Democrats) vanish as the polls close witht he ballot boxes and wait for a call from the local party chair to tell them how many Democratic votes they have to find.

That is the Chicago Way.

re: #211 3 wood

Obama is running a clear risk of raising expectations and then getting crushed by the inability to make things happen. You have a year to 2 year time lag from when you decide to undertake a fiscal policy stimulus via spending and the impact hits the economy.

Don't raise my hopes! Do you think we'll be seeing giant papier mache heads (with huge ears) being paraded around DC? I must say I would enjoy that.
I wonder what slogans would appear on the signs. The people not carrying pitchforks, would be carrying signs. Or walking on stilts. Either way.

re: #218 stevieray

How bad will Europe be hurt when the governments of a few South American and Eastern Europe default on their debts? The temporary lowering of oil prices may have bought them a little time, but many of those countries will eventually have to repudiate their debts... how bad will the fallout from that be?

I've forgotten where I read it - it was this week - the European exposure to emerging markets is about 6 times what ALL the financial exposure in the U.S. is thought to be.

re: #170 mich-again

More good news.. Uday and Qusay are still dead.

After Saddam was done in via rope (I always misuse hung v hanged), he was stabbed six times IIRC. It seemed like an Orient Express kind of verdict to me, with a smaller jury.

re: #227 wahabicorridor

I've forgotten where I read it - it was this week - the European exposure to emerging markets is about 6 times what ALL the financial exposure in the U.S. is thought to be.

Didn't they do a lot of that trying to sink the dollar a few years back?

re: #183 IslandLibertarian

There's a saying something like "A conservative is just a liberal that's been mugged."
Let's hope that O-___ gets a good mugging from the Russians, Iranians and Pali's before he takes the oath of office.

Island L -

The key word is BEFORE - doubt that will happen. AFTER - Not So Much.

-S-

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Wondering why he didn't name a Treasury Secretary yesterday, like the financial markets were anticipating?

I know I've made my opinion of Obama clear, so I am biased, but I really don;t think he knows what to do right now.

I'm reminded of the end of the movie The Candidate, where Robert Redford actually wins in an upset and asks his campaign manager "What do I do now?"

re: #231 3 wood

I know I've made my opinion of Obama clear, so I am biased, but I really don;t think he knows what to do right now.

I'm reminded of the end of the movie The Candidate, where Robert Redford actually wins in an upset and asks his campaign manager "What do I do now?"

LOL! Of course he doesn't know what to do. All the prep was to get him there, not study history or economics.

re: #217 Silhouette

Wonder how safe credit unions are in all of this. My understanding is that assets aren't protected by the FDIC, but rather some parallel agency that soley regulates credit unions...

re: #229 galloping granny

Didn't they do a lot of that trying to sink the dollar a few years back?

Dunno. A few years back I wasn't paying much attention to the financial sector. Maybe 3 wood knows.

re: #223 galloping granny

That is because all of the smaller banks failed back in the 80s - there are very few smaller banks left to fail these days.

Very true - but the other aspect that has to be considered is why the banks failed. What is getting very little discussion is one of the root causes of the banking crisis - the fact that for political reasons only, the marketplace was delibertly manipulated in order to extend credit / mortgages to people on the basis of their social status and standing on not on their ability or history to repay those loans. A viable market was altered for social reasons and was eliminated as a viable market in a business sense. Since that market, and the paper / notes within that market are worth far less than we thought - the entire foundation is less stable than we thought or need.

re: #216 galloping granny

gonna take one hell of a stimulus package to rescue 1000 banks, the world economy, the mortgage mess and both the insurance and auto industries.

..and the MSM. Don't forget the MSM. Before this is all over, you watch, they will get a big slice of money. The 2nd piece of that will be some form of the Fairness Doctrine.

re: #232 jemima

LOL! Of course he doesn't know what to do. All the prep was to get him there, not study history or economics.

ROFLMAO! How're things with you?

re: #211 3 wood

Obama or McCain would have been a one term president.

re: #236 Athos

Very true - but the other aspect that has to be considered is why the banks failed. What is getting very little discussion is one of the root causes of the banking crisis - the fact that for political reasons only, the marketplace was delibertly manipulated in order to extend credit / mortgages to people on the basis of their social status and standing on not on their ability or history to repay those loans. A viable market was altered for social reasons and was eliminated as a viable market in a business sense. Since that market, and the paper / notes within that market are worth far less than we thought - the entire foundation is less stable than we thought or need.

Here is an excellent discussion of those causes -
[Link: www.econlib.org...]

re: #235 Iron Fist

And they will come to believe it is because he isn't / wasn't far enough to the left and moved too slowly to enact the positions of the hard left. They will look at his move run from the center (distancing himself from the hard left roots) as a betrayal.

re: #218 stevieray

How bad will Europe be hurt when the governments of a few South American and Eastern Europe default on their debts? The temporary lowering of oil prices may have bought them a little time, but many of those countries will eventually have to repudiate their debts... how bad will the fallout from that be?

Absolutely nasty. I have been predicting the collapse of the European Union for the past year or so, and you are starting to see why.

I'm hoping they will get through this without a civil war. I would not be surprised to see one country take over another by force to grab assets and protect oil reserves.

re: #171 Kenneth

Obama pivots on a missile...

You've all seen the video of Obama pledging to "cancel the unproven missile defeze system", calling it unnecessary and provocative. We'll not the subtle shift in his position today,

Ah, he will support it when it's proven. But will he still cancel it until then?

Change!

I only feel bad for George W. Bush right now. For the past eight years this man has been beaten. I want to thank him for keeping us safe for 7+ years.

re: #239 NYCHardhat

Obama or McCain would have been a one term president.

Starting to look that way.

Look for the MSM to start labeling any criticism of Obama as racism too, by the way. They have to protect their guy.

re: #237 3 wood

..and the MSM. Don't forget the MSM. Before this is all over, you watch, they will get a big slice of money. The 2nd piece of that will be some form of the Fairness Doctrine.

Ooo... can you say "third-world style government ownership/control of the media"?

Yes, I knew you could.

re: #242 3 wood

Absolutely nasty. I have been predicting the collapse of the European Union for the past year or so, and you are starting to see why.

I'm hoping they will get through this without a civil war. I would not be surprised to see one country take over another by force to grab assets and protect oil reserves.

As far as I can tell, this period since WWII is the longest time in most of known history that Europe has not been involved in internecine warfare somewhere or other. And that is only if you count the Cold War as "peace" and ignore Yugoslavia.

re: #237 3 wood

..and the MSM. Don't forget the MSM. Before this is all over, you watch, they will get a big slice of money. The 2nd piece of that will be some form of the Fairness Doctrine.

Is Obama's New FCC Transition Head Talk Radio's 'Executioner'?

Brian Maloney at Radio Equalizer warns that Barack Obama is signaling his designs on conservative talk radio with the rumored appointment of former FCC Commissioner Henry Rivera as the head of his FCC transition team:

Henry Rivera, a longtime radical leftist, lawyer and former FCC commissioner, is expected to lead the push to dismantle commercial talk radio that is favored by a number of Democratic Party senators. Rivera will play a pivotal role in preventing critics from having a public voice during Obama's tenure in office.

Rivera, who resigned from the FCC nearly a quarter-century ago during the Reagan years, believes in a doctrine of "communications policy as a civil rights issue".

/already in work, hitting the ground running on this one

re: #245 Iron Fist

Yeah, I agree. But we are going to have to do something. Right now it appears that the majority of our fellow citizens want us to sit around and wait for the Mohammedans to do something else.

If I had to guess, it may take them a few years to recover from the Bush Administration, but they will recover, and then they will hit us again.

It really doesn't appear that a peaceful co-existance is in the cards.

And next time they will have nukes in abundance.

re: #238 galloping granny

ROFLMAO! How're things with you?

I'm good. I have the Christmas lights with the glass fruit light covers on over my desk--might as well enjoy the electricity while we still have it! And it's been raining all day, very cozy. I was going to make a chocolate cake but I didn't ;-)

And you?

re: #242 3 wood

I'm hoping they will get through this without a civil war. I would not be surprised to see one country take over another by force to grab assets and protect oil reserves.

About, oh, 10 years ago, the French were worried about their tourism numbers. Their resarch found that tourists found the French sullen, so they asked for suggestions on how to make the French smile more.

I suggested they let Germany invade again. Got hate mail for 3 solid weeks. Laughed my ass off.

re: #246 3 wood

Starting to look that way.

Look for the MSM to start labeling any criticism of Obama as racism too, by the way. They have to protect their guy.

You mean you really haven't been noticing that long since?

re: #246 3 wood

That will happen until they need to re establish credibility with the masses. They will crucify him by the end of year two.

re: #232 jemima

LOL! Of course he doesn't know what to do. All the prep was to get him there, not study history or economics.

His entire press conference yesterday reminded me of when I was a rookie Senior Manager and went into my first important meeting and was asked hard questions.

I did not know what to say then either.

His whole answer on the Iran letter was hysterical to me. It will take you a while to form a response with your staff?

How about this one, Hey Dinnerjacket, drop dead.

re: #251 jemima

I'm good. I have the Christmas lights with the glass fruit light covers on over my desk--might as well enjoy the electricity while we still have it! And it's been raining all day, very cozy. I was going to make a chocolate cake but I didn't ;-)

And you?

I've been reading recipes most of the day. Petting the dog (speaking of I have to go give her her meds). Listening to a CD I got for our WWI studies beginning Tuesday (I am reliably informed that Monday is a holiday!) - Over There! Songs from America's Wars

re: #250 galloping granny

I just hope when the city gets hit again...and it will... I go quick.

re: #240 galloping granny

Hey granny, thanks for that link - bookmarked for reading tomorrow. Off to do some chores. Later, lizards.

re: #248 galloping granny

Pax Americana

re: #257 NYCHardhat

I just hope when the city gets hit again...and it will... I go quick.

I hear you. I would not want to be trapped in Manhattan in an emergency.

re: #249 Killian Bundy

/already in work, hitting the ground running on this one

I did a piece on that in this mornings thread if you want to go back.

This Rivera see's "fair speech" as a civil rights issue. Upshot is, any speech he does not like will be called a civil rights violation.

He also want's to appoint "overseer's" to the Boards of broadcasting companies.

#253

People like Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele, Michael Steele etc must be absolutely appalled at what's going on and the prospect that it cannot help but get worse. (Who's that twerp from Temple that Fox has on constantly? He's so happy he's dancing in his seat.)