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Open | Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:26:35 pm PST

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

Groucho Marx

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1 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:27:10pm

And here it is....

2 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:28:01pm

What? Where? What'd I miss?

3 allbusiness  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:28:37pm

Rather pessimistic, Groucho was.

4 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:28:43pm

Good evening all. Night shift checking in. So what's the news and talking points tonight?

5 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:29:14pm

I'm waiting for xwar-whatever to ding it down.

6 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:29:35pm

re: #3 allbusiness

Rather pessimistic, Groucho was.

I would say cynical experienced actually. From what he said in that quote, I would have to agree with him.

7 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:29:39pm

"I never forget a face, but in your case, I'll make an exception."

8 Occasional Reader  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:29:49pm

FIREFLY 2012

Rufus T. Firefly! Change you can believe in!

9 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:30:04pm

Heh. I like it, but then again, it's always good to be a Marxist of the Groucho variety. ;-)

10 Max Darkside  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:30:10pm

Obama's entire agenda goes down the memory hole:
[Link: change.gov...]
including defense, economy, IRAN, IRAQ and about 20 other topics.

Gone.

11 stevieray  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:30:30pm

Pretty smart for a guy with a shoe polish mustache.

12 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:30:37pm

re: #7 laZardo

Well, I'm going to have a nightmare tonight. :[

13 Shay4l  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:31:06pm

I wish Zerobama followed the right Marx

14 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:31:13pm

"I'd never belong to a country club that would have me as a member"- Groucho Marx

15 winston06  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:31:20pm

Hello...

16 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:31:43pm

re: #4 BlueCanuck

Good evening all. Night shift checking in. So what's the news and talking points tonight?

nirth certificate

17 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:32:05pm
18 calcajun  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:32:12pm

Most folks in the GOP's attitude right now has got to be like Groucho's when he tried to join a country club. "I wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would have someone like me as a member.."

19 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:32:44pm

re: #16 spidly

Uh, huh. Saw that thread. It's sad to see that we have the same kind of nutbars running around like the left does.

/It's dead Jim, just let it go. . . . .

20 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:32:50pm

re: #12 Adina in Judea

Wanted to change my avatar to that for Halloween Weekend, actually. But then Charles and his Zionist mind rays forecast that leading him to disable avatars for the time being.

Oh, and as per the previous thread, I voted for Canada. Just in case Iran got cocky.

21 Paul Green  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:32:52pm

"Poly" -- many

"ticks" -- blood-sucking parasites

22 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:33:00pm

re: #15 winston06

Hello...


...I must be going...

23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:33:16pm

re: #18 calcajun

GTMA- See my #14...

24 Occasional Reader  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:33:27pm

"Go! And never darken my towels again!"

25 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:33:35pm

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."
-Mark Twain

26 Shay4l  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:33:46pm

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

-Groucho

27 esch  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:34:12pm

re: #10 Max Darkside

Obama's entire agenda goes down the memory hole:
[Link: change.gov...]
including defense, economy, IRAN, IRAQ and about 20 other topics.

Gone.

ROFLMFAO

This (gnashing teeth) PERSON doesn't have the faintest idea what to do. I'll bet there is puking involved.

28 Sihlus  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:34:21pm

re: #7 laZardo

Don't DO that on an empty stomach!

29 calcajun  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:34:31pm

AS a guest at a country cub in Orange NJ one day, Marx was told that he could not use the pool.
"Why," asked Marx.
"Because," said the manager, "even as a guest, we don't allow Jews in the pool."
Marx narrowed his eyes. "Well, what about my daughter? She's half Jewish. Can't she go in up to her knees?"

30 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:34:40pm

"I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually happened."
-Mark Twain

31 firedupengineer  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:35:02pm

It sounds like Groucho was talking about the MSM's reporting of the McCain/Palin campain...

32 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:35:20pm

re: #20 laZardo

Wanted to change my avatar to that for Halloween Weekend, actually.

Well, now I finally have a use for this phrase:

That picture was disturbing on so many levels! :)

33 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:35:55pm

re: #10 Max Darkside

Obama's entire agenda goes down the memory hole:
[Link: change.gov...]
including defense, economy, IRAN, IRAQ and about 20 other topics.

Gone.

Maybe someone slipped him a constitution and he's realized that his primary mission is national defense and that all this social engineering stuff should really be left to individual states so their schtoopid plans will have limited impact.

what are the odds

34 calcajun  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:36:17pm

Short time tonight. Must go walk dogs.

35 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:36:19pm

re: #9 Honorary Yooper

Huffton?
Howtin?
Hewton?
Hoffton?
Hoe-ton?

36 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:36:27pm

re: #10 Max Darkside

Obama's entire agenda goes down the memory hole:
[Link: change.gov...]
including defense, economy, IRAN, IRAQ and about 20 other topics.

Gone.

This POTUS's conceit is truly breathtaking.

37 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:37:14pm

re: #23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

GTMA- See my #14...

And GMTA- PIMF

38 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:37:22pm

Of all the Marx family to listen to, our current president-elect has to choose Karl.

39 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:37:56pm

re: #33 spidly

Maybe someone slipped him a constitution and he's realized that his primary mission is national defense and that all this social engineering stuff should really be left to individual states so their schtoopid plans will have limited impact.

what are the odds

I think Obama's online agenda met up somewhere with his Columbia records, nirth certificate, and a lifetime of socks lost in clothes dryers.

40 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:38:03pm

re: #10 Max Darkside

Obama's entire agenda goes down the memory hole:
[Link: change.gov...]
including defense, economy, IRAN, IRAQ and about 20 other topics.

Gone.

In quiet moments, I fantasize that Obama has actually been scamming William Ayers for the last 20 years, and that he's really just your run-of-the-mill corrupt Chicago grafter. This instills in me a hope that he will put his own self-interest ahead of any Leftist loyalties he has, and will govern in such a way that he angles for re-election.

Then I snap out of it, and realize once more that he is likely to govern the way he talks: hard-Left, redistributionist, weak on defense.

41 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:38:06pm

As A kid in the 70s, memories of Grouch Marx are intermingled with those of Alan Alda's lousy imitations of Marx.

Tragic, really. I am permanently scarred, having been spoon fed New Left morality by M*A*S*H* every week and having any memories of Groucho Marx permanently impaired.

I should sue.

42 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:38:21pm

re: #38 gmsc

Of all the Marx family to listen to, our current president-elect has to choose Karl.

Upding for that.

43 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:38:27pm

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others."
-Groucho Marx

44 Occasional Reader  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:39:32pm

re: #43 gmsc

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others."
-Groucho Marx

I use that line all the time.

45 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:40:26pm

re: #10 Max Darkside

There was a link on the DT about the page where he was supposed to be detailing his National Service program saying only "NEEDS CONTENT."

This one doesn't look worthy of the "AGENDA FAIL" label though.

46 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:40:27pm

Go ahead, drop your baby.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

47 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:40:34pm

re: #35 wolfie

Huffton?
Howtin?
Hewton?
Hoffton?
Hoe-ton?

From the last thread?

That's Houghton, Michigan, pronounced "Hoton". (And stencilled that way on city property.)

48 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:41:10pm

re: #41 karmic_inquisitor

As A kid in the 70s, memories of Grouch Marx are intermingled with those of Alan Alda's lousy imitations of Marx.

Tragic, really. I am permanently scarred, having been spoon fed New Left morality by M*A*S*H* every week and having any memories of Groucho Marx permanently impaired.

I should sue.

The first three seasons of M*A*S*H not like that. That was classic TV. After Wayne Rogers left and was replaced by Mike Fairy, I mean Farrell, that's when the show went downhill.

49 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:43:04pm

"I used to think I was poor. Then they told me I wasn't poor, I was needy. Then they told me it was self-defeating to think of myself as needy. I was deprived. (Oh not deprived but rather underprivileged.) Then they told me that underprivileged was overused. I was disadvantaged. I still don't have a dime. But I have a great vocabulary."
-Jules Feiffer

50 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:43:13pm

re: #38 gmsc

Of all the Marx family to listen to, our current president-elect has to choose Karl.

with all the revisions going on it probably looks more like a stooges argument...."wadda think yer doin'...bonk..HEY....slap...OW...why I oughta..."

site is down because curley is on the floor doing the nyuk nyuk circle run

51 William  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:43:19pm

Check this exchange with Tom Brokaw from the Charlie Rose show:

ROSE: I don't know what Barack Obama's worldview is.

BROKAW: No, I don't either.

ROSE: I don't know how he really sees where China is.

BROKAW: We don't know a lot about Barack Obama and the universe of his thinking about foreign policy.

ROSE: I don't really know. And do we know anything about the people who are advising him?

BROKAW: You know that's an interesting question.

ROSE: He is principally known through his autobiography and through very aspirational (sic) speeches, two of them.

BROKAW: I don't know what books he's read.

ROSE: What do we know about the heroes of Barack Obama?

BROKAW: There's a lot about him we don't know.

[Link: www.charlierose.com...]

52 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:43:37pm

Damn, I love Groucho.

I love the Marx Brothers' movies.

Nearly 30 years ago, when I was 17, my mom heard me cackling with laughter in the "tv room" and came in to find out what I was watching (we just got cable, so she was nervous).

She was so pleased that I was watching "something clean" that she made some popcorn (the old-fashioned way) and joined me.

At 17, I was either intelligent and perceptive beyond my age, or the biggest f'ing geek you've ever met.

Both are probably true.

53 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:43:40pm
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

Some things never change.

Real Rancher

54 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:44:12pm

re: #51 William

Check this exchange with Tom Brokaw from the Charlie Rose show:

They only had two years. Give'em a break.
/

55 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:44:44pm

re: #47 Honorary Yooper

Aha! Thanks! :)

56 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:45:41pm

re: #51 William

Check this exchange with Tom Brokaw from the Charlie Rose show:

ROSE: I don't know what Barack Obama's worldview is.

BROKAW: No, I don't either.

ROSE: I don't know how he really sees where China is.

BROKAW: We don't know a lot about Barack Obama and the universe of his thinking about foreign policy.

ROSE: I don't really know. And do we know anything about the people who are advising him?

BROKAW: You know that's an interesting question.

ROSE: He is principally known through his autobiography and through very aspirational (sic) speeches, two of them.

BROKAW: I don't know what books he's read.

ROSE: What do we know about the heroes of Barack Obama?

BROKAW: There's a lot about him we don't know.

The right has been saying this all year.

These guys finally figured it out.

They must be geniuses.

57 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:45:43pm

re: #54 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

They could've come here.

Real Rancher

58 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:45:46pm

re: #46 DesertSage

Go ahead, drop your baby.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Holy shit. That's fucked up.

59 Shay4l  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:46:11pm

re: #52 Noam Sayin'

Damn, I love Groucho.

I love the Marx Brothers' movies.

Nearly 30 years ago, when I was 17, my mom heard me cackling with laughter in the "tv room" and came in to find out what I was watching (we just got cable, so she was nervous).

She was so pleased that I was watching "something clean" that she made some popcorn (the old-fashioned way) and joined me.

At 17, I was either intelligent and perceptive beyond my age, or the biggest f'ing geek you've ever met.

Both are probably true.

Alllthe people I respect the most laugh at the Stooges. The ones that don't get it scare me.

60 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:46:17pm

re: #50 spidly

with all the revisions going on it probably looks more like a stooges argument...."wadda think yer doin'...bonk..HEY....slap...OW...why I oughta..."

site is down because curley is on the floor doing the nyuk nyuk circle run

Doing the Curly Shuffle?

61 esch  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:46:22pm

re: #51 William

Please tell me that's a joke. Please.

/Where'd I put that Wakazashi?..

62 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:46:40pm

re: #56 Adina in Judea

Either way, they'll be the first to get credit for it.

63 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:46:42pm

re: #53 Rancher

/#783

64 middlecon  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:47:25pm

re: #51 William

Check this exchange with Tom Brokaw from the Charlie Rose show:

The media has become suddenly uncurious when it comes to Obama, it will surely come back to bite them in the ass, the only question is how and when.

65 Shay4l  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:48:20pm

re: #59 Shay4l

Alllthe people I respect the most laugh at the Stooges. The ones that don't get it scare me.

Now I'm scaring myself. I meant the Marx Bros.

66 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:48:23pm

re: #46 DesertSage

Go ahead, drop your baby.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Bouncing babies.

67 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:48:37pm

re: #8 Occasional Reader

FIREFLY 2012

Rufus T. Firefly! Change you can believe in!

Perhaps we'll get lucky and Osama Bin Laden will call Obama an upstart!

68 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:49:07pm

re: #58 Noam Sayin'

Better than bride burning, another Indian past time.

69 esch  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:49:12pm

re: #67 stuiec

Perhaps we'll get lucky and Osama Bin Laden will call Obama an upstart!

Actually I'm expecting a fist-bump.

70 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:49:30pm

re: #52 Noam Sayin'

Used to go to our Public Library in the kids section when they showed old movies. Movies like the Marx Brothers, Laurel and Hardy, and the Three Stooges. Talkies, silent films, the works. Guess that's why I like Monty Python so much. Same type of humour, just modernized.

71 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:50:07pm

re: #52 Noam Sayin'

Damn, I love Groucho.

I love the Marx Brothers' movies.

Nearly 30 years ago, when I was 17, my mom heard me cackling with laughter in the "tv room" and came in to find out what I was watching (we just got cable, so she was nervous).

She was so pleased that I was watching "something clean" that she made some popcorn (the old-fashioned way) and joined me.

At 17, I was either intelligent and perceptive beyond my age, or the biggest f'ing geek you've ever met.

Both are probably true.

Your Mom was nervous about cable TV back then?

Geez, back then MTV played music 24/7 and Nickelodean played shows for kids.

72 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:50:28pm

re: #58 Noam Sayin'

Maybe I shouldn't have built my home in such a precarious place?

73 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:50:32pm

You may have seen this posting by Charles on the last VB thread...

I emailed Robert Spencer on my own, asking him if he had any intention of looking into the European nationalist political parties that seem to display a great deal of racism. Here was his reply to me... "Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

Just for full disclosure. I sent this email to Mr. Spencer, this was his answer and I gave Charles permission to post this if he wanted. Charles did not have anything to do with my question to Mr. Spencer. Charles did not solicit my communication with Mr. Spencer. I was not trolling for Charles nor was I "spying" for Charles.

But I thought Mr. Spencer's answer spoke volumes. This is like saying "Actually, I am fighting economic problems in Germany, and have no interest in or intention to investigate The Nazi party. Insofar as they are fighting economic problems, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

Mr. Spencer has evidently seen Charles posting on the last VB thread, and emailed me this message...

"Yet you say below: 'As far as the rift with Charles Johnson, that's not really my battle. I did not contact you as a "troll" or "spy" for Charles, simply as someone who has respected your work, and I felt I needed to pass on my concerns.' Why not just be honest? Why did you think it necessary to lie to me? It doesn't reflect well on you or Charles Johnson. But of course nothing much of what he does lately reflects well upon him."

For someone who is not very interested in what the European nationalist political parties are doing, Mr. Spencer certainly seems to be VERY INTERESTED in monitoring what is being discussed on LGF. Something to think about.

74 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:50:44pm

re: #56 Adina in Judea

The right has been saying this all year.

These guys finally figured it out.

They must be geniuses.

They're taking the steps necessary to bring back their credibility.

Lost.
on.
me.

75 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:50:48pm

re: #59 Shay4l

Alllthe people men I respect the most laugh at the Stooges. The ones that don't get it scare me.

Fixed. Unless you've never met a female you respect!
The Stooges are a Y-chromosome thing.

76 LEGION  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:50:59pm

re: #51 William

Yeah, heard this on Rush or Levin-- the media is trying to cover their butts for their complicity in getting this fraud elected.

77 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:51:02pm

re: #65 Shay4l

Now I'm scaring myself. I meant the Marx Bros.

I was going to say that I've met some dumb people in my life, but none so dumb that they didn't get the Three Stooges. That would be a special kind of stupid. ROFLOL

/full disclosure- I like the Marx Brothers, really dislike the Stooges. ;)

78 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:51:19pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Yup!

79 lostlakehiker  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:51:35pm

What a beautiful photo! Updingdingding.

80 LEGION  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:52:19pm

re: #75 wolfie

Whup whup whup Hey Moe, look at this, neah neah

81 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:52:44pm

re: #68 Rancher

Better than bride burning, another Indian past time.

yes, unfortunately those evil colonial colonialist brits destroyed their culture by putting an end to that practice.

82 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:52:47pm

re: #65 Shay4l

Now I'm scaring myself. I meant the Marx Bros.

Oddly, I felt you meant the Marx Bros, instead.

Okay. I'll get out of your head now.

You could use a maid.

Just sayin'

83 AMER1CAN  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:52:52pm

re: #46 DesertSage

Hmm, me thinks I know why it's been going on for 500 years. Brain damage anyone?

It makes Michael Jackson look like a responsible parent!

84 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:53:09pm

re: #56 Adina in Judea

The right has been saying this all year.

These guys finally figured it out.

They must be geniuses.

Adina ... many people not just the right have been saying this ever since he got on the national scene ...we were told to STFU ...we just need to keep on his back ...don't let them think for a minute we are not watching ...

85 William  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:53:30pm

RE: Tom Brokaw from the Charlie Rose exchange in post #51

Brokaw moderated the 2nd McCain/Obama debate on Oct 7, 2008.

86 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:53:35pm

re: #75 wolfie

Fixed. Unless you've never met a female you respect!
The Stooges are a Y-chromosome thing.

wrong

87 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:54:24pm

re: #77 gop_patriot

Ah, but you don't have the Y-chromosone. That's why you dislike the Three Stooges. ;)

88 Shay4l  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:54:34pm

re: #82 Noam Sayin'

Oddly, I felt you meant the Marx Bros, instead.

Okay. I'll get out of your head now.

You could use a maid.

Just sayin'

As Neil says, a man needs a maid

89 SpartanWoman  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:55:01pm

re: #76 LEGION

Yeah, heard this on Rush or Levin-- the media is trying to cover their butts for their complicity in getting this fraud elected.

Too late. We know they knew the man well and just refused to report their findings. They can play CYA all they like, but I don't think it's remotely credible

90 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:55:04pm

re: #71 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ahem... Pre-MTV, pre-Nick.

BASIC
CABLE

Noam

(Sorry, Render. I said I'd stop).

91 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:55:12pm

re: #81 spidly

yes, unfortunately those evil colonial colonialist brits destroyed their culture by putting an end to that practice.

No, still goes on today.

92 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:55:35pm

re: #80 LEGION

Okay. I'll admit THAT was funny!

93 Avary  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:55:45pm

Obama's Youth Classroom Corps is going to be so awesome. Its even got its own song. But he should call it by its proper name : Komsomol.

94 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:55:56pm

re: #48 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The first three seasons of M*A*S*H not like that. That was classic TV. After Wayne Rogers left and was replaced by Mike Fairy, I mean Farrell, that's when the show went downhill.

Mike Farrell - a living saint!

He is such a preachy ass hole. He epitomizes the Obamaton Moralist - worse than the left's worst caricatures of Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell.

The mention of his name makes me want to watch the Save Tookie protest videos over at Zombietime.

95 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:55:58pm

re: #35 wolfie Gee whiz, wolfie, I done told you on the prior thread that it's pronounced Houghton!

96 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:56:22pm

re: #72 DesertSage

Maybe I shouldn't have built my home in such a precarious place?

Yeah, that might hurt the resale, if it wasn't for the view.

97 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:56:33pm

Here's the home that I really wanted to build.

98 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:56:51pm

re: #86 Killer Tomato

An overly broad generalization, eh? :)

99 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:57:19pm

re: #97 DesertSage

Here's the home that I really wanted to build.

Wow ... where is that?

100 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:57:22pm

Has anyone noticed that Free Republic has been down for something like 18 hours?
They still don't have the birth certificate, either, or MAYBE THEY DID!
/

101 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:57:52pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

No doubt he is keeping files.

102 Miss Molly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:57:58pm

A sense of humor will be very helpful in the next 4 years.

103 abolitionist  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:57:59pm

re: #10 Max Darkside

Obama's entire agenda goes down the memory hole:
[Link: change.gov...]
including defense, economy, IRAN, IRAQ and about 20 other topics.

Gone.

Peeking into the memory hole (google cache):
[Link: 64.233.169.104...]

104 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:58:14pm

re: #68 Rancher

Better than bride burning, another Indian past time.

Gen. Charles Napier said:

You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.
105 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:58:18pm

re: #84 JacksonTn

Adina ... many people not just the right have been saying this ever since he got on the national scene ...we were told to STFU ...we just need to keep on his back ...don't let them think for a minute we are not watching ...

We don't know Obama. The MSM doesn't know Obama. Yet, this unknown man who is getting the keys to the entire U.S.A. ship has more money coming in from G-d knows where to help him decide where to steer it.

Is there any government agency powerful enough right now to object to the fact that Obama is taking in unlimited amounts of money right now without having to name the donors?

His Office of the President-Elect (entirely new to the United States of America) has the status of a non-profit organization that can take unlimited donations without being forced to name them.

How on Earth can this be going on (especially by a guy that is unknown even to his biggest supporters in the MSM who helped get him elected?)

106 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:58:48pm

re: #95 realwest

Dang! I missed it! Houghton! Why didn't I guess that?


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

107 William  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:58:57pm

More Charlie Rose -- this time with Evan Thomas and Jon Meacham of Newsweek magazine, the day after Obama won the election on Nov 5th:

MEACHAM: He's very elusive, Obama, which is fascinating for a man who's written two memoirs. At Grant Park he walks out with the family, and then they go away.

ROSE: Mmm. Mmm-hmm.

MEACHAM: You know... have you ever seen a victory speech where there was no one else on stage?

ROSE: Mmm.

MEACHAM: No adoring wife, no cute kid. He is the messenger.

THOMAS: There is a slightly creepy cult of personality about all this. I mean, he's such an admirable --

ROSE: Slightly. Creepy. Cult of personality.

THOMAS: Yes.

ROSE: What's slightly creepy about it?

THOMAS: It -- it -- it just makes me a little uneasy that he's so singular. He's clearly managing his own spectacle. He's a deeply manipulative guy.

[Link: www.charlierose.com...]

108 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:59:11pm

re: #91 Rancher

No, still goes on today.

really? Under british rule they shot anyone caught trying to do that. thought it was gone.

ah. actually read the link and it wasn't what I thought. I was thinking of:

Sati is described as a Hindu custom in India in which the widow was burnt to ashes on her dead husband's pyre. Basically the custom of Sati was believed to be a voluntary Hindu act in which the woman voluntary decides to end her life with her husband after his death. But there were many incidences in which the women were forced to commit Sati, sometimes even dragged against her wish to the lighted pyre.
109 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:59:14pm

re: #97 DesertSage

Here's the home that I really wanted to build.

At least you wouldn't have to worry about door to door salesmen. :)

110 Occasional Reader  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:59:22pm

re: #51 William

Check this exchange with Tom Brokaw from the Charlie Rose show:

Unfricciknbelievable.

111 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 9:59:50pm

re: #97 DesertSage

Not much room for your little bony dog to run, though.

112 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:00:03pm

re: #75 wolfie

Fixed. Unless you've never met a female you respect!
The Stooges are a Y-chromosome thing.

Not necessarily. I'm a female and I have an appreciation for the Stooges. Well, the Three Stooges, not the Iggy Pop Stooges. I blame it on my dad though, as he had nearly all the episodes recorded on VHS when I was a kid and we watched them all the time. I don't have much time for the post-Shemp episodes.

113 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:00:05pm

re: #75 wolfie

The Stooges are a Y-chromosome thing.

My Dad is a total Three Stooges geek, but he has also gotten the women in his life (wife and daughters) to love 'em, too.

114 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:00:10pm

re: #103 abolitionist

Peeking into the memory hole (google cache):
[Link: 64.233.169.104...]

Obama will create a new cabinet post - Secretary of the Memory Hole. The Department of the Memory Hole will be housed in the L'Enfant Plaza Metro Station.

115 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:00:14pm

re: #97 DesertSage

I'm going to make strawberry shortcake for dessert... could you run out and pick up some whipping cream?
OY!

116 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:00:30pm

re: #98 wolfie

An overly broad generalization, eh? :)

yip
:-)

117 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:00:47pm

re: #105 Adina in Judea

We don't know Obama. The MSM doesn't know Obama. Yet, this unknown man who is getting the keys to the entire U.S.A. ship has more money coming in from G-d knows where to help him decide where to steer it.

Is there any government agency powerful enough right now to object to the fact that Obama is taking in unlimited amounts of money right now without having to name the donors?

His Office of the President-Elect (entirely new to the United States of America) has the status of a non-profit organization that can take unlimited donations without being forced to name them.

How on Earth can this be going on (especially by a guy that is unknown even to his biggest supporters in the MSM who helped get him elected?)

I don't understand why he is asking for donations ...what is he going to use the money for anyway ...something stinks again .....

118 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:00:59pm

re: #110 Occasional Reader

Unfricciknbelievable.

they are the MSM. whatta ya want.

119 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:01:05pm

re: #90 Noam Sayin'

Ahem... Pre-MTV, pre-Nick.

BASIC
CABLE

Noam

(Sorry, Render. I said I'd stop).

So then....What was she worried about that was on BASIC CABLE?

120 solomonpanting  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:01:38pm

Many analysts say this financial crisis is the worst since the Great Depression. A few statistics of The Great Depression:

Between 1929 and 1932

-unemployment was 25%
-industrial production down 45%
-industrial stocks down 80%
-farm prices down 53%
-exports down 67%
-5,000 banks out of business
-GNP down 10% annually
-home building down 80%

Now I know times are tough now for many folks but let's be honest when making comparisons.

And now, back to the other Marxist humor:

I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book.

121 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:01:40pm

re: #107 William

Obama? Manipulative? Tell me it isn't so!

/ Yet more evidence he is a protoge of Ayers.

122 Max Darkside  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:01:46pm

re: #103 abolitionist

Peeking into the memory hole (google cache):
[Link: 64.233.169.104...]

I've got pdf prints from the cache already, thx.

123 SpartanWoman  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:01:59pm

re: #117 JacksonTn

I don't understand why he is asking for donations ...what is he going to use the money for anyway ...something stinks again .....

Don't worry the press won't even be a tiny bit curious. It's all good

124 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:02:18pm

re: #93 Avary

Obama's Youth Classroom Corps is going to be so awesome. Its even got its own song. But he should call it by its proper name : Komsomol.

I know someone who used to be a middle-manager type in the Komsomol. She refuses to talk about what her life was like back then.

I shudder to think of the torment she is experiencing now.

125 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:02:45pm

re: #97 DesertSage

Too late. I already built it.

Nice, doncha think?

... for a guy who knows nothing of brick-laying, plumbing, electrical work, carpentry, or engineering.

Hey, it was my first attempt. What can I say?

126 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:02:48pm

re: #111 wolfie

Not much room for your little bony dog to run, though.

Noam came to visit the other day, he said that there was something wrong with his brakes.

127 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:02:49pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

Why bother? It seems his views are clearly expressed...

128 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:02:55pm

re: #119 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Back then you wouldn't believe what you could discover on basic cable.

129 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:03:08pm

re: #51 William
Just left a comment over there that I hope is funny and I'm SURE it's accurate!

130 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:03:08pm

re: #119 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So then....What was she worried about that was on BASIC CABLE?

HBO. first thing I watched when we got cable was The Omen.

131 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:03:19pm

When is Chicago trying to get the Olympics?

132 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:03:59pm

re: #113 Adina in Judea

My Dad is a total Three Stooges geek, but he has also gotten the women in his life (wife and daughters) to love 'em, too.

Lots of cool dads out there, eh? My dad was also responsible for my love of the Marx Brothers (Duck Soup is one of the greatest movies ever) and my love of the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson.

The first song I ever heard must have been either Good Vibrations or Lydia the Tattooed-Lady!

133 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:04:16pm

re: #112 foxtrotter

re: #113 Adina in Judea

Okay. I'm getting too much evidence to the contrary, so I take back my generalization about women not liking the Stooges!

sort of

134 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:04:35pm

re: #108 spidly

In some instances, the practice has been expanded to include burning the bride while the husband is alive and well -- thus allowing him to marry again and receive another dowry.

135 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:05:12pm

re: #124 victor_yugo

Clicked to your blog and read the "Vietnam referendum" entry. Suffice it to say, the referendum was pretty much decided going into the 90s...that the escalation opened up a Pandora's Box, and despite the honorable services of people like John McCain (and other Vet Lizards), a few big bad apples really spoiled the bunch (e.g. Da Nang, Tet Offensive, etc.)

136 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:05:19pm

re: #104 stuiec

You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.

I actually got to use this line of reasoning against a moral equivalency kool-aid drinker a couple of years ago. We were discussing World War 2 and the moonbat made a brief speech about Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the racist propaganda used against the Japanese. In turn, I brought up the Bataan Death March, the Death Railway, and other Japanese atrocities against helpless prisoners. The moonbat superciliously began to inform me that I could not fault the Japanese for this since it is just part of their culture that prisoners have shamed themselves and deserve no mercy. I responded that it was just part of our culture to fire-bomb people who do that kind of shit.

137 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:05:27pm

re: #132 foxtrotter

My parents got me hooked on Star Trek. We would turn the t.v. on with our bowls of popcorn to watch it at night. Ah the good years. I am so thankful that it went into syndication.

138 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:05:34pm

re: #107 William

More Charlie Rose -- this time with Evan Thomas and Jon Meacham of Newsweek magazine, the day after Obama won the election on Nov 5th:

MEACHAM: He's very elusive, Obama, which is fascinating for a man who's written two memoirs. At Grant Park he walks out with the family, and then they go away.

ROSE: Mmm. Mmm-hmm.

MEACHAM: You know... have you ever seen a victory speech where there was no one else on stage?

ROSE: Mmm.

MEACHAM: No adoring wife, no cute kid. He is the messenger.

THOMAS: There is a slightly creepy cult of personality about all this. I mean, he's such an admirable --

ROSE: Slightly. Creepy. Cult of personality.

THOMAS: Yes.

ROSE: What's slightly creepy about it?

THOMAS: It -- it -- it just makes me a little uneasy that he's so singular. He's clearly managing his own spectacle. He's a deeply manipulative guy.

The ultra-famous fist bump scene on stage between Obama and his wife occurred because they both got on stage to celebrate some sort of primary victory (I think) and then Obama motioned Michelle to leave the stage! He made a sweeping gesture with his arm that signaled to her: "Go away!"

She fist bumped him as a way of saying goodbye.

Then he spoke all alone on the stage without her.

The MSM is only just now noticing things like this?!?!?

139 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:05:36pm

re: #133 wolfie

You're talking about lizardettes - why would this surprise you?
;-)

140 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:05:50pm

re: #131 JacksonTn

When is Chicago trying to get the Olympics?

2016.

141 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:06:31pm

re: #131 JacksonTn

When is Chicago trying to get the Olympics?

2016. They're going up against Rio, Madrid, and those racists in Tokyo. [;

/that don't look like no ribbon...

142 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:06:32pm

re: #126 DesertSage

Oh my! :D

143 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:06:41pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

Nothing worse than some one spouting that crap, "It's part of their culture." I cringe when I hear that.

144 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:06:55pm

re: #130 spidly

HBO. first thing I watched when we got cable was The Omen.

I was about 8 or 9 when cable first went into the San Diego market. The first movie channel in this area was Channel 100. On one of the frequent free preview weekends I watch Phase IV about 5 times. Ant's still disturb me.

145 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:07:11pm

re: #117 JacksonTn

I don't understand why he is asking for donations ...what is he going to use the money for anyway ...something stinks again .....

He can collect billions this way from our enemies or anyone else on Earth for his own intentions. No one will ever know what this guy is doing.

Public officials are NOT supposed to take money from others like this.

It's against the law.

146 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:07:12pm

re: #138 Adina in Judea

The ultra-famous fist bump scene on stage between Obama and his wife occurred because they both got on stage to celebrate some sort of primary victory (I think) and then Obama motioned Michelle to leave the stage! He made a sweeping gesture with his arm that signaled to her: "Go away!"

She fist bumped him as a way of saying goodbye.

Then he spoke all alone on the stage without her.

The MSM is only just now noticing things like this?!?!?

Adina ... if you look at the video ... he slapped her ass ...as she was turning to walk off the stage ...

147 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:07:40pm

re: #144 CyanSnowHawk

re: #144 CyanSnowHawk

I was about 8 or 9 when cable first went into the San Diego market. The first movie channel in this area was Channel 100. On one of the frequent free preview weekends I watch Phase IV about 5 times. Ant's still disturb me.

Do they now?

148 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:07:52pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

I actually got to use this line of reasoning against a moral equivalency kool-aid drinker a couple of years ago. We were discussing World War 2 and the moonbat made a brief speech about Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the racist propaganda used against the Japanese. In turn, I brought up the Bataan Death March, the Death Railway, and other Japanese atrocities against helpless prisoners. The moonbat superciliously began to inform me that I could not fault the Japanese for this since it is just part of their culture that prisoners have shamed themselves and deserve no mercy. I responded that it was just part of our culture to fire-bomb people who do that kind of shit.

Wonder what your discussion mate would have said about the Japanese occupation of China and Korea. How did the people of Nanking shame themselves into deserving invasion, rape, murder and oppression?

149 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:07:58pm

re: #141 laZardo

2016. They're going up against Rio, Madrid, and those racists in Tokyo. [;

/that don't look like no ribbon...

I can just see it now: "Gee, Rio, Madrid, and Tokyo, those are some fine, ancient, and historic cities you got there. It'd be a shame if something happened to them, wouldn't it?"

150 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:08:13pm

re: #100 Shiplord Kirel

Didn't a Supreme Court Justice ask for the nirth certifikit?

151 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:08:39pm

re: #134 stuiec

In some instances, the practice has been expanded to include burning the bride while the husband is alive and well -- thus allowing him to marry again and receive another dowry.

well we can't judge other cultures. all cultures are equal. except for our evil western culture. we do worse things everyday, like force people to go to work after a couple years on welfare, demand they pay 5 or 10 dollars for a 250 dollar prescription...

152 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:08:54pm

re: #139 Killer Tomato

Good point! :)

153 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:09:06pm

re: #146 JacksonTn

They're going to be such a charming first couple, don't you think? Marvelous ambassadors for the US. Just ooze class.

154 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:09:11pm

re: #131 JacksonTn

When is Chicago trying to get the Olympics?

2016.

155 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:09:15pm

re: #97 DesertSage
Uh, Sage, where's the fuckin' driveway?!? No wonder you have to fight the mortgage company - they can't figure out a way to get an inspector or appraiser up to your house!
Kids these days!

;')

156 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:09:44pm

re: #150 Rancher

Didn't a Supreme Court Justice ask for the nirth certifikit?

If the Supreme Court step doesn't work out, I understand Berg is planning to appeal.
;)

157 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:10:10pm

Has anyone ever heard of Mini-Dickmann's?

158 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:10:18pm

re: #137 BlueCanuck

My parents got me hooked on Star Trek. We would turn the t.v. on with our bowls of popcorn to watch it at night. Ah the good years. I am so thankful that it went into syndication.

I had to wait until later to get into Star Trek as my parents didn't (and still don't) do sci-fi at all. I made up for it though! And it's funny you should mention curling up with a big bowl of popcorn. We used to do that all the time. Dark living room, big bowl of popcorn, and the Stooges or Marx Brothers on the tv.

159 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:11:20pm

re: #155 realwest

Uh, Sage, where's the fuckin' driveway?!? No wonder you have to fight the mortgage company - they can't figure out a way to get an inspector or appraiser up to your house!
Kids these days!

;')

Is that the place they used for the Bond film For Your Eyes Only?

160 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:11:27pm

re: #157 DesertSage

sigh
Yeah, unfortunately.
(did I type that out loud?)

161 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:11:44pm

re: #149 gmsc

I can just see it now: "Gee, Rio, Madrid, and Tokyo, those are some fine, ancient, and historic cities you got there. It'd be a shame if something happened to them, wouldn't it?"

GMTA...exactly
So you are an official at dinner in Chicago with ahem..the city..
It's like the movie Godfather...

162 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:11:58pm

re: #157 DesertSage

Has anyone ever heard of Mini-Dickmann's?

Not me. When I was in calculus class in college, these were my favorite snacks.

163 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:12:19pm

re: #146 JacksonTn

Adina ... if you look at the video ... he slapped her ass ...as she was turning to walk off the stage ...

Slapping her ass...shooting the bird at U.S. Senators...what a classy guy. /

He kissed Jill Biden full on the lips when both couples were on stage shortly after Biden was chosen as his running mate. Full on the lips!

He also seemed to kiss Hillary on the lips recently. It was hard to tell because the photo was taken from behind Hillary - but you could see his lips puckered up and he was aiming at the middle of her face.

Another photo showed Obama trying to kiss a young blonde woman at a rally. She was turning away, so he seemed to be puckering up against her cheek with his hand on her arm to hold her still.

He also tends to call women in general by the name "Sweetie."

This guy has some really inappropriate social skills at times.

164 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:12:20pm

re: #119 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So then....What was she worried about that was on BASIC CABLE?

Maybe we had HBO as well, but you must understand. Up until that point, we had the Big Three and PBS. In Small-town America, we had heard about what kinds of movies were shown on HBO. Cable TV was looked upon as potentially exposing children to all manner of debauchery. This was nearly 30 years ago, mind you. Johnny Carson ruled the night.

165 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:12:26pm

re: #151 spidly

well we can't judge other cultures. all cultures are equal. except for our evil western culture. we do worse things everyday, like force people to go to work after a couple years on welfare, demand they pay 5 or 10 dollars for a 250 dollar prescription...

Not to mention how we bitterly cling to the simplistic notion that those who have wealth are entitled to keep it.

166 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:12:51pm

re: #149 gmsc

"Is that a challenge?" - Tokyo Yakuza

/if all else fails, deploy the giant fighting robots!

167 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:12:53pm

re: #158 foxtrotter

That was in the early to mid 70's. Funniest part was that William Shatner was the Spokesman for Loblaws, a grocery store chain here in Canada. So during the commercials we would see Captain Kirk with curly hair saying, "Come over to Loblaws."

168 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:13:22pm

I am doing something that I don't think I have done in over 10 years, but that I used to do routinely. Formatting a diskette. And I now realize it takes forever.

169 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:13:23pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton - I think that perhaps he has waay too much time on his hands to be bothered reading LGF, or posts by commenters here, since he obviously holds us all in contempt. That was probably an automated reply. Don't take it personally.

170 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:13:41pm

re: #156 gmsc

If the Supreme Court step doesn't work out, I understand Berg is planning to appeal.
;)

He'll probably try to go to the Alien overlords' governing council, since folk like him usually believe in such "hidden hands." The joke will be on him, though. He does not realize that such an appeal will deliver him straight to a certain bunker beneath the Denver Airport. Buwaaahaaa!

171 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:14:03pm

re: #157 DesertSage

Has anyone ever heard of Mini-Dickmann's?

I hadn't until now. Thanks so much for that.

/poor guys

172 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:14:17pm

re: #162 gmsc

Not me. When I was in calculus class in college, these were my favorite snacks.

LOL. I wonder how many people will get the full joke. :)

173 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:14:55pm

re: #158 foxtrotter


I'm fortunate that my father didn't push the Three Stooges. He gave it a try, poor thing, but I escaped to another room when it came on. UGH.

He did, however, give me a lifelong love of James Bond, starting with Dr. No. LOL James Bond films showing on TV were our 'popcorn movies'. :)

174 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:15:20pm

re: #126 DesertSage

I believe my exact words were, "A LITTLE MORE SALT ON THE DRIVEWAY MIGHT- OH, SHIT!"

175 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:15:34pm

re: #144 CyanSnowHawk

I was about 8 or 9 when cable first went into the San Diego market. The first movie channel in this area was Channel 100. On one of the frequent free preview weekends I watch Phase IV about 5 times. Ant's still disturb me.

can't believe I've never seen that movie.

re: #158 foxtrotter
Popcorn and
6 million dollar man, Battlestar Galactica, Wonder Woman.
Later: Greatest American Hero ( if your whole family doesn't know the whole theme song you are probably a commie. )
A-team

176 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:15:42pm

re: #147 laZardo

re: #144 CyanSnowHawk

Do they now?

Heh.

177 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:16:04pm

re: #172 BlueCanuck

Leibniz and Newton! I got it! I got it!

178 Charles  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:16:17pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

You may have seen this posting by Charles on the last VB thread...

I emailed Robert Spencer on my own, asking him if he had any intention of looking into the European nationalist political parties that seem to display a great deal of racism. Here was his reply to me... "Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

Just for full disclosure. I sent this email to Mr. Spencer, this was his answer and I gave Charles permission to post this if he wanted. Charles did not have anything to do with my question to Mr. Spencer. Charles did not solicit my communication with Mr. Spencer. I was not trolling for Charles nor was I "spying" for Charles.

But I thought Mr. Spencer's answer spoke volumes. This is like saying "Actually, I am fighting economic problems in Germany, and have no interest in or intention to investigate The Nazi party. Insofar as they are fighting economic problems, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

Mr. Spencer has evidently seen Charles posting on the last VB thread, and emailed me this message...

"Yet you say below: 'As far as the rift with Charles Johnson, that's not really my battle. I did not contact you as a "troll" or "spy" for Charles, simply as someone who has respected your work, and I felt I needed to pass on my concerns.' Why not just be honest? Why did you think it necessary to lie to me? It doesn't reflect well on you or Charles Johnson. But of course nothing much of what he does lately reflects well upon him."

For someone who is not very interested in what the European nationalist political parties are doing, Mr. Spencer certainly seems to be VERY INTERESTED in monitoring what is being discussed on LGF. Something to think about.

Uh, that's right. I had nothing to do with your email, of course. Robert seems to be on the verge of a serious paranoid meltdown. How sad.

179 welshgirl  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:16:24pm

re: #157 DesertSage

And the point IS?

180 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:16:32pm

re: #172 BlueCanuck

LOL. I wonder how many people will get the full joke. :)

Okay, I'm not getting it. :(

181 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:17:02pm

re: #173 gop_patriot

Heh. My dad imbued the Bond in me when I was young, as well. I made it a point to go to the last two movies on the premiere day, as they actually premiered in the Philippines before the United States.

182 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:17:07pm

re: #137 BlueCanuck

My parents got me hooked on Star Trek. We would turn the t.v. on with our bowls of popcorn to watch it at night. Ah the good years. I am so thankful that it went into syndication.

I had a cousin who got me to watch it. She had been in an amateur theater group in Boston, with Leonard Nimoy.

183 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:17:13pm

re: #175 spidly

can't believe I've never seen that movie.

re: #158 foxtrotter
Wonder Woman

She fought for our rights in her silky tights you know.

184 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:17:28pm

re: #166 laZardo

"Is that a challenge?" - Tokyo Yakuza

/if all else fails, deploy the giant fighting robots!

That's all we need - the Italian Mafia and the Japanese Yakuza fighting.

"But Marge, that little guy still didn't move, and I think he is going to do something cool!"
-Homer Simpson

/Hey, 0bama's already taking ideas from Homer Simpson . . .

185 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:18:02pm

Rustler should be at "work" now and my nic is no longer my own. Good night Lizards.

Real Rancher

186 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:18:08pm

re: #175 spidly

can't believe I've never seen that movie.

re: #158 foxtrotter
Popcorn and
6 million dollar man, Battlestar Galactica, Wonder Woman.
Later: Greatest American Hero ( if your whole family doesn't know the whole theme song you are probably a commie. )
A-team

Interestingly enough, the song is far more famous than the show, which lasted maybe a season or two.

187 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:18:12pm

re: #167 BlueCanuck

That was in the early to mid 70's. Funniest part was that William Shatner was the Spokesman for Loblaws, a grocery store chain here in Canada. So during the commercials we would see Captain Kirk with curly hair saying, "Come over to Loblaws."

Haha, that would be surreal.

One of the things I miss from the '80s is the plethora of really poorly made local commercials that they always showed late at night when the rates were cheap. Cheap '80s graphics, lots of shouting, and the worst fashion imaginable.

/wait, wasn't that the '80s in general?

188 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:18:24pm

re: #169 realwest

If you check his "I hate Charles" posts, you will see that he quickly updates them with information about Charles' "followers" in near real time. And the email back to Walter seems to indicate the same obsessiveness. I think he cares more about this than he (constantly) claims.

BTW - did you see my reply this AM? Had to drive a kid to band and got back and finished the reply. I have an article for you that I will try to find on line and link. Gives context to the whole demise of the Republican party in California. It was assisted suicide when it comes down to it.

189 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:18:56pm

Watching History International on the Dark Ages.
Right now, it is covering Charles Martel vs Islam.
Where's a Charles Martel when you need him?

190 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:18:59pm

re: #184 gmsc

D'OH!

191 ConservativeAtheist  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:19:03pm

re: #172 BlueCanuck

LOL. I wonder how many people will get the full joke. :)

I'll bet your favorite hockey team is the Edmonton Eulers too.

192 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:19:39pm

re: #8 Occasional Reader

FIREFLY 2012

Rufus T. Firefly! Change you can believe in!

193 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:19:58pm

re: #189 Kosh's Shadow

Watching History International on the Dark Ages.
Right now, it is covering Charles Martel vs Islam.
Where's a Charles Martel when you need him?

Partying with Jefferson.

194 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:20:11pm

re: #181 laZardo

I like the new James Bond, he's just the right mix of hottie and violent, kick-ass secret agent. LOL

195 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:20:22pm

re: #172 BlueCanuck

LOL. I wonder how many people will get the full joke. :)

Then there's Fig Einsteins. They're relatively good.

196 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:21:16pm

re: #187 foxtrotter

Haha, that would be surreal.

One of the things I miss from the '80s is the plethora of really poorly made local commercials that they always showed late at night when the rates were cheap. Cheap '80s graphics, lots of shouting, and the worst fashion imaginable.

/wait, wasn't that the '80s in general?

You know what I miss about the 80s? The music.

197 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:21:18pm

re: #173 gop_patriot

I'm fortunate that my father didn't push the Three Stooges. He gave it a try, poor thing, but I escaped to another room when it came on. UGH.

He did, however, give me a lifelong love of James Bond, starting with Dr. No. LOL James Bond films showing on TV were our 'popcorn movies'. :)

Now James Bond, that is a guy thing. :)

Just kidding, though I only like the Connery ones.

198 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:21:42pm

re: #180 DesertSage

Okay, I'm not getting it. :(

Both invented Calculus at the same time. Liebenz cookies, and Newton cookies.

/history and science geek here.
//Newton made it his life long mission to destroy Liebenz.

199 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:21:45pm

re: #180 DesertSage

Okay, I'm not getting it. :(

The two people largely responsible for developing calculus are Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz and Sir Isaac Newton.

BTW, don't let calculus scare you. Check out A Gentle Introduction To Learning Calculus for an explanation that will make you go, "Aha!"

200 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:22:06pm

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

201 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:22:32pm

re: #183 CyanSnowHawk

She fought for our rights in her silky tights you know.

Weren't we all Wonder Woman for Halloween in the '80s? I had the costume and the Underoos.

202 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:22:38pm

re: #197 foxtrotter

Now James Bond, that is a guy thing. :)

Just kidding, though I only like the Connery ones.

The way they keep replacing Bonds, I'll never get to see Bond chasing Blaufeld on wheelchairs through an old age home.

203 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:22:47pm

re: #194 gop_patriot

I agree. And I haven't liked any of the others since Sean Connery.

204 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:23:18pm

re: #187 foxtrotter

Haha, that would be surreal.

One of the things I miss from the '80s is the plethora of really poorly made local commercials that they always showed late at night when the rates were cheap. Cheap '80s graphics, lots of shouting, and the worst fashion imaginable.

/wait, wasn't that the '80s in general?

Do you live in a major TV market? Most of those crap commercials in San Diego went away around then. I thought it was a nationwide phenomenon. Every now and then I visit the folks out in Amarillo, and get to see that some of that stuff still being made and shown in Prime Time. Their local commercials are wonders to behold sometimes.

205 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:23:27pm

re: #178 Charles

Uh, that's right. I had nothing to do with your email, of course. Robert seems to be on the verge of a serious paranoid meltdown. How sad.

Cognitive dissonance will do that.

206 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:23:31pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

LOL!

207 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:01pm

re: #162 gmsc

re: #200 DesertSage
not.saying.anything...

208 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:01pm

re: #194 gop_patriot

I will admit that Quantum of Solace is the kind of Bond movie where you actually have to watch the previous one in order to really get it though.

209 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:18pm

re: #196 laZardo

You know what I miss about the 80s? The music.

Are you trying to wind me up? I love Rick Astley. Still. Seriously. The Stock-Aitken-Waterman catalog is highly-underated.

Okay, well maybe not under-rated, but ever-so-slightly underappreciated. :)

210 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:27pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

HAHAHA

/if you really can't read it, squint. lol

211 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:28pm

The spirit of Charles Martel and his victory at Lourdes is alive in Iraq and Afghanistan. The American people should be proud of their children who serve as the tip of the spear in preserving liberty all around the world.

212 talon_262  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:35pm

re: #178 Charles

Uh, that's right. I had nothing to do with your email, of course. Robert seems to be on the verge of a serious paranoid meltdown. How sad.

Spencer should be paranoid...he's associating himself with unsavory characters that are using him and others like him to gain respectability in the wider anti-jihad fight, when VB and friends would just as soon stick a dagger in their backs while smiling at them and twist it happily after their usefulness is exhausted.

/Think I'm kidding, Robert?

213 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:38pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

LOL - squint. It is a funny message.

214 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:46pm

re: #199 gmsc

BTW, don't let calculus scare you. Check out A Gentle Introduction To Learning Calculus for an explanation that will make you go, "Aha!"

I went up through Calculus III in college but I think this is neat, too!

Thanks!

215 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:46pm

re: #194 gop_patriot

I like the new James Bond, he's just the right mix of hottie and violent, kick-ass secret agent. LOL

He is my favorite so far of the new ones ...but Connery still my favorite ....

216 Inquisitive  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:47pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(


I read it....so sorry you couldn't....LOL....

217 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:24:53pm

re: #195 Kosh's Shadow

Then there's Fig Einsteins. They're relatively good.

What about Choco Copernicus? It seems like a pretty standard candy, until you get to the surprise at the center.
:D

218 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:25:23pm

re: #210 gop_patriot

HAHAHA

/if you really can't read it, squint. lol

Well.....why can't I read it?

219 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:25:28pm

re: #194 gop_patriot

I like the new James Bond, he's just the right mix of hottie and violent, kick-ass secret agent. LOL

Sean Connery IS James Bond. That will never change.

220 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:25:58pm

re: #200 DesertSage

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

Follow the instructions.

It's readable if you pull both your eyes towards your ears.

221 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:04pm

re: #183 CyanSnowHawk

She fought for our rights in her silky tights you know.

ohh-oh-oh-hohhh yes she did.
Colonel Wilma Deering fought for our intergalactic rights in a nice pants too.

222 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:10pm

re: #212 talon_262

Not to mention the hundreds of fatwas. Some paranoia is justifiable, IMHO.

223 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:14pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

Dude! It clearly says- oh, shit.

224 Inquisitive  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:17pm

re: #218 DesertSage

Well.....why can't I read it?

You must have bad eyes.......

225 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:27pm

re: #202 Kosh's Shadow

The way they keep replacing Bonds, I'll never get to see Bond chasing Blaufeld on wheelchairs through an old age home.

I was really disappointed that they didn't go with Clive Owen after what's-his-name, the Irish guy. Clive Owen would have gotten me into the theater to see a modern Bond like nobody else could. I have heard the new guy is pretty good, but I am boycotting in protest of no Clive Owen.

226 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:39pm

Anybody heard from Zombie lately?

Just wondering how he/she is doing....

227 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:43pm

Oh....now I know why I couldn't read it.

:(

228 Rancher  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:26:58pm

re: #189 Kosh's Shadow

Where's a Charles Martel when you need him?

Or an El Cid?

Real Rancher

229 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:27:25pm

re: #219 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Sean Connery IS James Bond. That will never change.

Are you kidding me?... Roger Moore is the man!

230 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:27:26pm

re: #197 foxtrotter

Now James Bond, that is a guy thing. :)

Just kidding, though I only like the Connery ones.

Lots of us women like James Bond. He's good-looking, exciting, and dangerous. Hubba. ;)

/I don't like chick flicks lol

231 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:27:29pm

re: #209 foxtrotter

Well then. (:

232 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:27:30pm

re: #219 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Sean Connery IS James Bond. That will never change.

you've got to move past that my friend....it's over..you need closure.
/

233 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:27:35pm

re: #227 DesertSage

Oh, you poor, poor man. ;)

234 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:27:48pm

re: #226 Intrepid

Anybody heard from Zombie lately?

Just wondering how he/she is doing....

Zombie was here a few days ago, election night.

235 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:28:26pm

re: #220 Adina in Judea

Follow the instructions.

It's readable if you pull both your eyes towards your ears.

ow ow ow. I keep scratching my corneas.

236 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:28:31pm

re: #213 karmic_inquisitor

LOL - squint. It is a funny message.

I found when I leaned back, and stopped looking directly at it, I could read it fine.
I guess my eyes are fine, as they should be.

237 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:28:42pm

re: #188 karmic_inquisitor
Gee, no I didn't see your post to me.
Hey, my nic is in blue if you want to e-mail it to me!

238 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:28:48pm

re: #204 CyanSnowHawk

Do you live in a major TV market? Most of those crap commercials in San Diego went away around then. I thought it was a nationwide phenomenon. Every now and then I visit the folks out in Amarillo, and get to see that some of that stuff still being made and shown in Prime Time. Their local commercials are wonders to behold sometimes.

Shoot, even in major TV markets, you can find them. We have oodles of those type of commercials in Chicago during the late night hours. Granted, most of them are on the second tier stations or the cable only stations, but they're still there.

239 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:28:54pm

re: #226 Intrepid

Taking a well-deserved break, I imagine.

240 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:29:28pm

re: #217 gmsc

What about Choco Copernicus? It seems like a pretty standard candy, until you get to the surprise at the center.
:D

They're a bit too hot for me.

241 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:29:31pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

/right

242 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:29:43pm

re: #239 Noam Sayin'

Which leads me to believe Charles has perfected some kind of cloning process.

243 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:29:46pm

re: #204 CyanSnowHawk

Do you live in a major TV market? Most of those crap commercials in San Diego went away around then. I thought it was a nationwide phenomenon. Every now and then I visit the folks out in Amarillo, and get to see that some of that stuff still being made and shown in Prime Time. Their local commercials are wonders to behold sometimes.

I am just outside Lansing MI and grew up between Lansing and Flint. I haven't seen those cheesy commercials since the early '90s at the latest. Well, we do have a local car dealer who wears a cowboy hat and screams at us while riding a horse (and plugging his riding stables) but that's about it. It doesn't surprise me that cheesy '80s-style ads are still made, I'm just disappointed we don't get them around here anymore.

244 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:29:48pm

re: #228 Rancher

Or an El Cid?

Real Rancher

Go to Iraq or Afghanistan, you will see people with his spirit and determination pushing back the bearded fools who shoot women in the back of the head because they refuse to wear a burqa.

245 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:30:05pm

I saw this on a site tonight ... there was legislation some time back ...to make it so you only had to pay for cable channels you actually wanted ...it failed .... I want them to bring that back up for a vote ...I could eliminate almost all of what is on my system ...and save money ....

246 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:30:14pm

re: #208 laZardo

I will admit that Quantum of Solace is the kind of Bond movie where you actually have to watch the previous one in order to really get it though.

I like the idea of continuing storyline from one film to the other. Interesting!

247 Maximu§  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:31:37pm

re: #232 HoosierHoops

you've got to move past that my friend....it's over..you need closure.
/

The new James Bond movie trailer looked great.

248 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:31:41pm

re: #245 JacksonTn

I saw this on a site tonight ... there was legislation some time back ...to make it so you only had to pay for cable channels you actually wanted ...it failed .... I want them to bring that back up for a vote ...I could eliminate almost all of what is on my system ...and save money ....

oxygen and lifetime. I'd pay extra to get that crap off my TV.

249 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:31:42pm

re: #229 shanec99

re: #232 HoosierHoops

The box office tells the truth. Adjusted for inflation, Sean Connery in James Bond films made over 700 times MORE than what all the other actors playing Bond did together.

250 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:31:49pm

re: #231 laZardo

Well then. (:

Was there ever a video for It Would Take a Strong Strong Man? That is my favorite Astley song. I remember watching that first video at Christmas 1987, everyone gathered in the living room, around the Christmas tree, presents piled up, and all eyes on MTV watching Rick Astley.

251 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:32:12pm

re: #238 Honorary Yooper

Shoot, even in major TV markets, you can find them. We have oodles of those type of commercials in Chicago during the late night hours. Granted, most of them are on the second tier stations or the cable only stations, but they're still there.

We have a car dealer who did a commercial like the Jetson's opening - he was driving his children and wife to various places, giving them money, and finally his wife took his wallet, leaving him with the money he had taken out to give her.

252 middlecon  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:32:23pm

re: #245 JacksonTn

I saw this on a site tonight ... there was legislation some time back ...to make it so you only had to pay for cable channels you actually wanted ...it failed .... I want them to bring that back up for a vote ...I could eliminate almost all of what is on my system ...and save money ....

I think the Cable companies would just find a way to charge the same price no matter how many channels you receive. I'm a bonified channel surfer, the only channels I can truly say that I *never* watch are religious channels and shopping channels, almost anything else I've at least peaked at lol

253 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:32:42pm

re: #248 spidly

oxygen and lifetime. I'd pay extra to get that crap off my TV.

That, and ellipses.

*ducks and runs*

G'night, everyone.

254 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:32:50pm

re: #226 Intrepid

I would guess that the Undead One is taking a well-deserved vacation.
I'm not sure where the undead do that.
In a dark forest? In a cemetery?
We do not know and dare not guess.

255 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:33:10pm

re: #207 Killer Tomato

re: #200 DesertSage
not.saying.anything...

Are you knocking my dinger?

256 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:33:18pm

re: #245 JacksonTn

I could eliminate almost all of what is on my system ...and save money ....


Sure - we'd all like that. And it'd cost them serious $.
(how many people you got lobbying for you in DC?)

257 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:33:19pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

Heh - I can read it.

"NO SEX CAUSES BAD EYES".

258 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:33:26pm

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

As long as we're on Groucho ... snopes is wrong on this one. I was a young kid (born in '42 so I was around 11 or 12) and I did see the show referred to here.

First - it was not the wife but the husband who was on the show. Groucho said "10 kids! - how do you account for that?" he said - "well, Groucho, I love my wife" Groucho said "yeah, well, I love this cigar too, but I take it out once in a while". The audience went nuts - this was live - there was no taping or 10 second delays in the early days of TV.

Off and on over a full 5 minutes the audience would snicker and then burst out in laughter - they couldn't get the show started again.

Every time Groucho would utter a sound the audience and the guests would crack up again. After 15 or so minutes we went to the station test pattern - and that was it for that show. Nothing came on till the next show was scheduled - on the next half hour.

Groucho never said "my mouth".

Any one else remember this one? Cause I sure do ... still. It was a ripper - seared into my brain.

I call BS on Snopes!

259 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:33:27pm

re: #249 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #232 HoosierHoops

The box office tells the truth. Adjusted for inflation, Sean Connery in James Bond films made over 700 times MORE than what all the other actors playing Bond did together.

I can't prove that, so just trust me on it, ok?
/

260 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:33:41pm

re: #250 foxtrotter

I should check.

Rick Astley actually had a concert in Manila last August 1...I would have loved to get tickets. And then subsequently Manila-Roll'd.

261 Promethea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:34:30pm

re: #153 Killer Tomato

They're going to be such a charming first couple, don't you think? Marvelous ambassadors for the US. Just ooze class.

But they're so cool!

/

262 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:34:54pm

Obama Positioned to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions

Transition advisers to President-elect Barack Obama have compiled a list of about 200 Bush administration actions and executive orders that could be swiftly undone to reverse White House policies on climate change, stem cell research, reproductive rights and other issues, according to congressional Democrats, campaign aides and experts working with the transition team.

I wonder what the other 197 are?

/grab your hand basket, Obama's taking us for a joyride

263 Semi Cartman  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:35:12pm

re: #145 Adina in Judea

Didn't clinton spend eight years doing this kind of shit? More of the same.

264 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:35:13pm

re: #230 gop_patriot

Lots of us women like James Bond. He's good-looking, exciting, and dangerous. Hubba. ;)

/I don't like chick flicks lol

Oh, I'm with you there. Chick flicks and chick lit are enough to make me gag. I wanted to scream when they tried to sell us that new version of The Women. The original is a catty classic, a remake was pointless and opportunistic. Of course, I think it was Diane English doing it so I'm not surprised, but I hate being told what I should enjoy just because I'm female. I read history books and actively avoid anything with a pink high heel on the cover. Which is hard because I work in a bookstore and we sell tons of that crap.

265 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:35:14pm

re: #250 foxtrotter

Was there ever a video for It Would Take a Strong Strong Man? That is my favorite Astley song. I remember watching that first video at Christmas 1987, everyone gathered in the living room, around the Christmas tree, presents piled up, and all eyes on MTV watching Rick Astley.

MTV Christmas in the 80's

yack. shite. even in the day

266 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:35:41pm

re: #255 gmsc

Actually, I had started a reply to you about your snacks, and got sidetracked.... I forgot your # was still on there.

267 Outrider  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:35:56pm

re: #10 Max Darkside

Obama's entire agenda goes down the memory hole:
[Link: change.gov...]
including defense, economy, IRAN, IRAQ and about 20 other topics.

Gone.

No biggie. I copied all the web pages a couple days back. lol

268 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:36:37pm

re: #250 foxtrotter

Was there ever a video for It Would Take a Strong Strong Man? That is my favorite Astley song. I remember watching that first video at Christmas 1987, everyone gathered in the living room, around the Christmas tree, presents piled up, and all eyes on MTV watching Rick Astley.

Rick Astley? Geez. Wasn't Air Supply available that night?

269 middlecon  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:36:47pm

re: #262 Killian Bundy

Obama Positioned to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions


I wonder what the other 197 are?

/grab your hand basket, Obama's taking us for a joyride

I think this is pretty par for the course for Presidents, I'm sure Bush reversed a bunch of Clinton executive orders.

The real fun is going to be to see who Bush pardons in his last few days.

270 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:37:06pm

re: #254 wolfie

I would guess that the Undead One is taking a well-deserved vacation.
I'm not sure where the undead do that.
In a dark forest? In a cemetery?
We do not know and dare not guess.

I can't wait for news reports during the next 4 years: "President 0bama will be taking his first trip to Europe next week. The White House has not released information on whether he will travel by boat, by plane, or by parting the waters of the Atlantic Ocean and walking across."

/I'm just kidding.
//0bama wouldn't have to part the waters to walk across the Atlantic Ocean

271 solomonpanting  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:37:15pm

re: #51 William

ROSE: I don't know what Barack Obama's worldview is.

BROKAW: No, I don't either.

Paging Chancey Gardener Rasputin.

272 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:37:27pm

re: #256 Killer Tomato

Sure - we'd all like that. And it'd cost them serious $.
(how many people you got lobbying for you in DC?)

Zero lobbying for me ...(sorry Noam) ...but maybe talk radio might push for it ...I would like to take all news channels off my list ...

273 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:37:27pm

re: #249 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #232 HoosierHoops

The box office tells the truth. Adjusted for inflation, Sean Connery in James Bond films made over 700 times MORE than what all the other actors playing Bond did together.

I watched only one james bond movie..When we and my friend were 16 we kept trying to sneak into see some over x rated movie..
We failed like 10 times in a row..upon not sneaking in, we would watch diamonds are forever.
I've never seen a james bond movie since.

274 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:37:48pm

re: #225 foxtrotter

I was really disappointed that they didn't go with Clive Owen after what's-his-name, the Irish guy. Clive Owen would have gotten me into the theater to see a modern Bond like nobody else could. I have heard the new guy is pretty good, but I am boycotting in protest of no Clive Owen.

I really like Clive Owen too, and wanted him to be Bond. But Daniel Craig is really good. Don't miss out! Rent the other one, then go see this one when it comes out. I think you'll really like Craig as Bond. :)

275 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:38:43pm

re: #254 wolfie

I would guess that the Undead One is taking a well-deserved vacation.
I'm not sure where the undead do that.
In a dark forest? In a cemetery?
We do not know and dare not guess.

Well let's just surmise that zombie has gone to ground for now. ;)

276 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:38:56pm

re: #268 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rick Astley? Geez. Wasn't Air Supply available that night?

Air Supply was more of an early '80s thing. Sorry.

/yeah, I love Air Supply too.

277 Clemente  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:39:19pm

re: #195 Kosh's Shadow

Then there's Fig Einsteins. They're relatively good.

And the timely Fig Hawkings.

278 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:39:26pm

re: #258 Bobibutu

That is hilarious!

279 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:39:48pm

re: #270 gmsc

I'm glad you made that correction.
I wouldn't want to have to report you to the proper authorities!

280 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:39:51pm

re: #272 JacksonTn

Talk radio? They better move fast - they've only got another couple months.

281 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:40:57pm

re: #274 gop_patriot

I really like Clive Owen too, and wanted him to be Bond. But Daniel Craig is really good. Don't miss out! Rent the other one, then go see this one when it comes out. I think you'll really like Craig as Bond. :)

Clive Owen is somewhere between Daniel Craig and Bruce Campbell. Couldn't see him as Bond after Sin City and that POS Shoot 'Em Up

282 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:41:25pm

re: #265 spidly

MTV Christmas in the 80's

yack. shite. even in the day

This is the coolest Christmas special of the '80s - Will Vinton's Claymation Christmas:

Part I
Part II
Part III

283 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:41:43pm

re: #269 middlecon

I think this is pretty par for the course for Presidents, I'm sure Bush reversed a bunch of Clinton executive orders.

The real fun is going to be to see who Bush pardons in his last few days.

I hope to God it's the two border patrol agents in prison for shooting the Mexican drug dealer, what is their names? Campeon and Ramos?

284 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:41:52pm

re: #273 HoosierHoops

I watched only one james bond movie..When we and my friend were 16 we kept trying to sneak into see some over x rated movie..
We failed like 10 times in a row..upon not sneaking in, we would watch diamonds are forever.
I've never seen a james bond movie since.

Sucks to be you my friend. You really missed a lot of cinema's best offering. Action, adventure, love, morality, stunts and good old fashioned fun.

285 Racer X  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:20pm

re: #200 DesertSage

Can anyone else read this?

I'm serious....I can't read it! :(

Take this eye test .

286 middlecon  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:23pm

re: #280 Killer Tomato

Talk radio? They better move fast - they've only got another couple months.

The fairness doctrine, yet another one of the ways that the Democratic congress could go overboard and cause a nice backlash in 2010.

I don't think they will have the balls to risk it.

287 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:36pm

re: #274 gop_patriot

I really like Clive Owen too, and wanted him to be Bond. But Daniel Craig is really good. Don't miss out! Rent the other one, then go see this one when it comes out. I think you'll really like Craig as Bond. :)

Daniel Craig as Bond - Casino Royale - the first 15 minutes will sell you - absolute knock yer socks off. Yheaaaa Baby!

288 slokat  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:51pm

re: #231 laZardo

Well then. (:

Does that qualify as being Rick Rolled?

289 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:55pm

re: #283 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

God willing.

290 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:55pm

re: #281 spidly

T'was only a few weeks before Quantum of Solace that I learned that Daniel Craig was also in the first Tomb Raider movie.

/random video game nerd moment 8B

291 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:56pm

re: #219 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Sean Connery IS James Bond. That will never change.

Sean Connery is also a self-admitted misogynist who thinks it's a man's privilege to beat his wife. For that, he will never get a single penny from me, not even through watching his movies on cable.

He can reverse this when he admits, publicly, that women are people, not property, and his chauvinistic views are wrong.

292 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:42:58pm

re: #269 middlecon

The real fun is going to be to see who Bush pardons in his last few days.


Can he pardon the whole country so we can have an election do-over?

293 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:43:04pm

re: #274 gop_patriot

I really like Clive Owen too, and wanted him to be Bond. But Daniel Craig is really good. Don't miss out! Rent the other one, then go see this one when it comes out. I think you'll really like Craig as Bond. :)

I didn't mind Daniel Craig in the few things I've seen him in so I guess I should probably get over it and give him a shot. How are the Bond girls though? The girls they seem to pick these days are pretty boring and generic.

294 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:43:04pm

re: #277 Clemente

And the timely Fig Hawkings.

As long as we're mentioning Newton, Einstein, and Hawking (no s), why not check out their famous poker game?

295 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:43:07pm

re: #178 Charles
Charles - I don't understand this. Does Mr. Spencer still have the ability to post out here, and if so, why did he not reply directly to Walter on that thread?
Of course, the way Mr. Spencer has been conducting himself lately, with the lame "....have no interest in or intention to investigate The Nazi party. Insofar as they are fighting economic problems, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied." I'd certainly understand why you don't let him post out here, I just don't understand his comment - is he really saying what he appears to be saying, that is he's not interested in the Nazi's but applauds their efforts to fight ecomomic problems, but anything else the nazi's do, his endorsement is not necessarily implied?! Didn't that use to try to pass muster under the old rubrick of plausible deniability?

296 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:43:51pm

re: #276 foxtrotter

Air Supply was more of an early '80s thing. Sorry.

/yeah, I love Air Supply too.

I hope you're a female.

297 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:44:05pm

re: #286 middlecon

The fairness doctrine, yet another one of the ways that the Democratic congress could go overboard and cause a nice backlash in 2010.

I don't think they will have the balls to risk it.

I'm ready to bet money that we have a Republican-majority Congress in 2011.

298 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:44:32pm

re: #295 realwest

The Nazi comparison was an analogy made about what Mr. Spencer really said.

It wasn't what Mr. Spencer actually wrote.

299 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:44:40pm

re: #288 slokat

They called it the "Alt Roll," since I would otherwise be DOING IT WRONG.

300 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:44:47pm

re: #226 Intrepid

Anybody heard from Zombie lately?

Just wondering how he/she is doing....

Well about a hundred thousand dead voted up in Cleveland so I guess zombie is shambling around the "mistake on the lake" searching for brains to eat.

301 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:45:11pm

re: #284 shanec99

Sucks to be you my friend. You really missed a lot of cinema's best offering. Action, adventure, love, morality, stunts and good old fashioned fun.

The closest I got was austin powers..the spy that shagged me..funny stuff..

302 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:45:25pm

re: #298 Adina in Judea

Correction:

The Nazi statement was an analogy made about what Mr. Spencer really wrote.

It wasn't what Mr. Spencer actually wrote.

303 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:45:45pm

re: #265 spidly

MTV Christmas in the 80's

yack. shite. even in the day

Ugh. My "favorite" line from that song was always Bono's "well tonight thank god it's them, instead of you!" Huh? I mean, yeah, I was glad I wasn't dying of starvation in Africa, but it always seemed like such a weird line for a song like that. I suppose it was there to make us all feel guilty enough to buy the single and "do our part."

304 capitalist piglet  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:45:52pm

re: #276 foxtrotter

Air Supply was more of an early '80s thing. Sorry.

/yeah, I love Air Supply too.

It is better to have loved and lost than to have to listen to "Lost In Love" by Air Supply.

/tune nazi

305 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:46:01pm

Someone could check Zombie's blog to see if he's active. I don't know theURL.

306 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:46:45pm

Speaking of 80's music I've had Joe Jackson's Stepping Out in my head for days. Only problem is I detest it.

307 Max Darkside  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:46:57pm

re: #267 Outrider

No biggie. I copied all the web pages a couple days back. lol

It is fine to have copies, if you can put them to good use. I'm concerned that his entire agenda disappeared in a blink. This isn't some candidate, it's the POTUS-elect and as such, each word must be carefully thought out before making it public. You DO NOT / MUST NOT just put up an agenda for the world to see, then pull it down, replacing it with essentially nothing. This is no longer time for jokes, "oopsie!", etc.

308 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:47:00pm

re: #304 capitalist piglet

LOL

309 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:47:01pm

re: #264 foxtrotter

You work in a bookstore? Awesome, one of my favorite places to be. :) I have to admit though, I have an 11 year old daughter and some of her (slightly older) friends have been reading Twilight. So I read it to check it out.

And finished the whole series in a week because I had to know how the story ended...

It's not very well written, but then it was written for teens, from a teenager's point of view, in 1st person. Not exactly a formula for great literature. LOL The Twilight series is absolutely the closest I've ever come to reading a romance story. X)

310 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:47:08pm

re: #291 victor_yugo

How about a link proving that?

311 Karridine  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:47:44pm

re: #267 Outrider

Outrider, check yr Inbox, por favor...

312 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:48:02pm

re: #305 Moe Katz

Someone could check Zombie's blog to see if he's active. I don't know theURL.

Yep, last post was two days ago.

313 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:48:37pm

re: #278 gop_patriot

That is hilarious!

And it really happened. More subtle than Snopes puts it ... Grouch was a master. My Grandma and he were friends from Vaudeville times.

Yeah - my G'ma was a V'ville honey who played in Peoria. Till she met Granddad.

314 Semi Cartman  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:48:49pm

re: #281 spidly

315 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:48:55pm

re: #306 Moe Katz

Speaking of 80's music I've had Joe Jackson's Stepping Out in my head for days. Only problem is I detest it.

LOL
don't you hate it when you get a song stuck in your head and you just hate it?

316 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:49:13pm

re: #301 HoosierHoops

The closest I got was austin powers..the spy that shagged me..funny stuff..

Good lord... please don't compare the two... Comparing Austin Powers to James Bond is like comparing the some gifted NY subway graffiti artist's rendition to the Mona Lisa.

There would be no comparison expect that pigments were placed on a surface for the public to see.

317 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:49:29pm

re: #281 spidly

Clive Owen is somewhere between Daniel Craig and Bruce Campbell. Couldn't see him as Bond after Sin City and that POS Shoot 'Em Up

LOL about Bruce Campbell. Love that crazy movie he was in where he had a chainsaw for an arm. (He is great on Burn Notice)

318 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:50:17pm

re: #306 Moe Katz

Speaking of 80's music I've had Joe Jackson's Stepping Out in my head for days. Only problem is I detest it.

I like that song. Reminds me of my drunk and stupid daze, when I didn't care or have a worry in the world.

319 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:50:18pm

re: #297 victor_yugo

I'm ready to bet money that we have a Republican-majority Congress in 2011.

Not a chance.

320 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:50:34pm

Thrilling news from Israel about Hamas. Moonbats must be going out of their minds with thoughts of peace and kittens all over the universe:

Clare Short, who served in the cabinet of former British prime minister Tony Blair, asked Haniyeh to repeat his offer. He said the Hamas government had agreed to accept a Palestinian state that followed the 1967 borders and to offer Israel a long-term hudna, or truce, if Israel recognized the Palestinians' national rights.

No peace, but an entire CEASE FIRE in exchange for Israel moving half a million Jews while also allowing millions of Arabs to flood into Israel!

Wow!

/sarc

Haniyeh: Hamas willing to accept Palestinian state with 1967 borders

321 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:50:43pm

re: #317 gop_patriot

LOL about Bruce Campbell. Love that crazy movie he was in where he had a chainsaw for an arm. (He is great on Burn Notice)

The movie is "Evil Dead", or "Evil Dead 2", or "Army of Darkness". Check him out in "Bubbahotep". Hilarious movie.

322 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:50:43pm

re: #282 gmsc

This is the coolest Christmas special of the '80s - Will Vinton's Claymation Christmas:

Part I
Part II
Part III

will vinton studios just down the way from me

323 Karridine  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:50:49pm

re: #258 Bobibutu

I saw it around 1972-74?, when it was rerun as part of a retrospective on Groucho.

I concur yr observation, "...but I take it out..."

/and I really enjoyed the one-man revue on Broadway by 'Meathead'... VERY poignant when we weren't laughing ourselves silly at 'Grouchos' antics...

324 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:51:18pm

re: #296 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I hope you're a female.

Uh, yeah. I only know one guy who is willing to admit he likes Air Supply and, while he isn't gay, he is totally clueless. There are certain bands and songs that you really can't admit you like if you're a guy and have any interest in getting girls. Air Supply is one of those bands. Oh, and Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart is one of those songs.

/Though I wonder about some of these young guys these days.

325 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:51:24pm

re: #315 HoosierHoops

LOL
don't you hate it when you get a song stuck in your head and you just hate it?

NOTHING more infuriating!

326 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:51:57pm

re: #319 wolfie

Not a chance.

How much would you like to bet?

327 Palandine  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:52:10pm

re: #317 gop_patriot

LOL about Bruce Campbell. Love that crazy movie he was in where he had a chainsaw for an arm. (He is great on Burn Notice)

Evil Dead II and Army of Darkness
/groovy

328 middlecon  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:52:14pm

re: #319 wolfie

Not a chance.

I don't see why not, if there is a coherent message and a repeat of 1994 its VERY possible. We are talking about a Congress with even lower approval ratings than President Bush.

329 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:52:18pm

re: #293 foxtrotter

I didn't mind Daniel Craig in the few things I've seen him in so I guess I should probably get over it and give him a shot. How are the Bond girls though? The girls they seem to pick these days are pretty boring and generic.

Actually they're very pretty, interesting, and in the last movie, one was actually exceptionally smart. lol

330 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:52:24pm

re: #258 Bobibutu
I agree with you - I saw it too - it was not a radio broadcast, it was on B&W TV and it was live. He didn't say it however, to the husband, but to Mrs. Story - I remember that so well because the other contestent was a guy and he looked SHOCKED at what Groucho had said. And as you said, it went IMMEDIATELY to a test pattern.

331 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:52:36pm

re: #317 gop_patriot

LOL about Bruce Campbell. Love that crazy movie he was in where he had a chainsaw for an arm. (He is great on Burn Notice)

I liked Brisco County. It was a Western with science fiction elements.

332 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:53:11pm

re: #298 Adina in Judea
Who made the analogy?

333 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:53:15pm

re: #319 wolfie

Not a chance.


The make up of the 2011 congress will depend on what happens:
1. With the economy
2. Domestic security
3. The Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

If you can predict these things (all three, not one or two of them) then you will be able to predict the congress' make up.

334 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:53:16pm

re: #318 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I like that song. Reminds me of my drunk and stupid daze, when I didn't care or have a worry in the world.

Now the mist across the window hides the lines
But nothing hides the colour of the lights that shine
Electricity so fine look and dry your eyes

We so tired of all the darkness in our lives
With no more angry words to say can come alive
Get into a car and drive to the other side

Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light
You babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light

We are young but getting old before our time
We'll leave the T.V. and the radio behind
Don't you wonder what we'll find steppin' out tonight

You can dress in pink and blue just like a child
And in a yellow taxi turn to me and smile
We'll be there in just a while if you follow me

Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light
You babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light

335 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:53:47pm

re: #323 Karridine

I saw it around 1972-74?, when it was rerun as part of a retrospective on Groucho.

I concur yr observation, "...but I take it out..."

/and I really enjoyed the one-man revue on Broadway by 'Meathead'... VERY poignant when we weren't laughing ourselves silly at 'Grouchos' antics...

Really! What does that say about Snopes?

336 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:54:01pm

re: #316 shanec99

Good lord... please don't compare the two... Comparing Austin Powers to James Bond is like comparing the some gifted NY subway graffiti artist's rendition to the Mona Lisa.

There would be no comparison expect that pigments were placed on a surface for the public to see.

LOL
i see i've gotten to you :)
So was the movie true lies the american version of 007?
Sean C or Arnold in a bar room fight?
I'd take mike myers..

337 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:55:59pm

re: #321 BlueCanuck

The movie is "Evil Dead", or "Evil Dead 2", or "Army of Darkness". Check him out in "Bubbahotep". Hilarious movie.

Thanks! I'm going to put those in my queue at Netflix. The movie I saw had a castle, and he started out with a regular arm, so maybe it was the first in the series.

338 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:56:09pm

re: #332 realwest

The analogy was made in #73 by Walter L. Newton:

You may have seen this posting by Charles on the last VB thread...

I emailed Robert Spencer on my own, asking him if he had any intention of looking into the European nationalist political parties that seem to display a great deal of racism. Here was his reply to me... "Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

Just for full disclosure. I sent this email to Mr. Spencer, this was his answer and I gave Charles permission to post this if he wanted. Charles did not have anything to do with my question to Mr. Spencer. Charles did not solicit my communication with Mr. Spencer. I was not trolling for Charles nor was I "spying" for Charles.

But I thought Mr. Spencer's answer spoke volumes. This is like saying "Actually, I am fighting economic problems in Germany, and have no interest in or intention to investigate The Nazi party. Insofar as they are fighting economic problems, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

Mr. Spencer has evidently seen Charles posting on the last VB thread, and emailed me this message...

"Yet you say below: 'As far as the rift with Charles Johnson, that's not really my battle. I did not contact you as a "troll" or "spy" for Charles, simply as someone who has respected your work, and I felt I needed to pass on my concerns.' Why not just be honest? Why did you think it necessary to lie to me? It doesn't reflect well on you or Charles Johnson. But of course nothing much of what he does lately reflects well upon him."

For someone who is not very interested in what the European nationalist political parties are doing, Mr. Spencer certainly seems to be VERY INTERESTED in monitoring what is being discussed on LGF. Something to think about.

339 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:56:10pm

re: #324 foxtrotter

Uh, yeah. I only know one guy who is willing to admit he likes Air Supply and, while he isn't gay, he is totally clueless. There are certain bands and songs that you really can't admit you like if you're a guy and have any interest in getting girls. Air Supply is one of those bands. Oh, and Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart is one of those songs.

/Though I wonder about some of these young guys these days.

Rick Astley's first song- "never gonna give you up"- I was forced to like that by my gf. You have to realize, I've been an Aerosmith fan since I was 13.

340 solomonpanting  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:56:25pm
277 Clemente


re: #195 Kosh's Shadow

Then there's Fig Einsteins. They're relatively good.

And the timely Fig Hawkings.

And the heavenly Fig Galileos.

341 stuiec  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:56:31pm

re: #306 Moe Katz

Speaking of 80's music I've had Joe Jackson's Stepping Out in my head for days. Only problem is I detest it.

Try singing it to someone. Apparently that has been shown to work.

Or you can try thinking of "Is She Really Going Out With Him?" to displace the other one. (Although I might suggest the Barenaked Ladies instead -- "One Week" or "Kiss Me," or even "If I Had A Million Dollars.")

342 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:56:47pm

re: #309 gop_patriot

You work in a bookstore? Awesome, one of my favorite places to be. :) I have to admit though, I have an 11 year old daughter and some of her (slightly older) friends have been reading Twilight. So I read it to check it out.

And finished the whole series in a week because I had to know how the story ended...

It's not very well written, but then it was written for teens, from a teenager's point of view, in 1st person. Not exactly a formula for great literature. LOL The Twilight series is absolutely the closest I've ever come to reading a romance story. X)

I tried to read Twilight one day while I was stuck at the register with nothing else to do. I agree that it is not very well written. I skimmed it for about 100 pages but I just had to give up. I work with quite a few younger girls who love that stuff so I pretty much knew the story but I just couldn't get into it. I had the same problem with Diana Gabaldon's Outlander series. Her writing style made me want to throw the book across the room after 50 pages so I had to give it up. I bet, in Twlight's case, the movie will be better than the book.

343 Semi Cartman  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:56:51pm

re: #286 middlecon

It looks like the mob is loose here. Every left interest wants its spoil, like a riot in a shopping center. I'll bet BO doesn't have the balls to stop them.

344 Steffan  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:57:24pm

re: #33 spidly

Maybe someone slipped him a constitution and he's realized that his primary mission is national defense and that all this social engineering stuff should really be left to individual states so their schtoopid plans will have limited impact.

what are the odds

It's possible that he had his first national security briefing and it scared the crap out of him.

I know it's not bloody likely, but I can dream....

345 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:57:47pm

re: #328 middlecon

I don't see why not, if there is a coherent message and a repeat of 1994 its VERY possible. We are talking about a Congress with even lower approval ratings than President Bush.

I said the other day 1994 will look like a hiccup compared to 2010. And I stand by that.

346 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:58:19pm

re: #330 realwest

I agree with you - I saw it too - it was not a radio broadcast, it was on B&W TV and it was live. He didn't say it however, to the husband, but to Mrs. Story - I remember that so well because the other contestent was a guy and he looked SHOCKED at what Groucho had said. And as you said, it went IMMEDIATELY to a test pattern.

OK - I am recounting my brain cells - I may be confused - the test pattern may have come on immediately but they tried to get back on for 15 or so minutes.

347 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:58:21pm

re: #306 Moe Katz

Good times!

348 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:58:53pm

re: #317 gop_patriot

LOL about Bruce Campbell. Love that crazy movie he was in where he had a chainsaw for an arm. (He is great on Burn Notice)

Army of Darkness, of course

Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?
349 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:58:54pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton
and
re: #298 Adina in Judea
Walter said in a response to Walter's e-mail

Here was his reply to me... "Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

so I don't see how it was an analogy.

350 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:59:41pm

re: #326 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #328 middlecon

The Dems have a seemingly endless supply of money.
They have the MSM to hide whatever they do and spin everything else.
If something happens that they can't hide, they'll blame it on Bush.

If the GOP tries to stop them, they'll be demonized as obstructionists.
If they don't try to stop them, they'll be useless nothings.

Who caught the flak for the mortage meltdown? The Dems who created it or the ones who tried to stop it?

351 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 10:59:45pm

re: #341 stuiec

Try singing it to someone. Apparently that has been shown to work.

Or you can try thinking of "Is She Really Going Out With Him?" to displace the other one. (Although I might suggest the Barenaked Ladies instead -- "One Week" or "Kiss Me," or even "If I Had A Million Dollars.")

I'll sing it to my wife. Good idea. I don't sing too well but I have a VERY indulgent wife.

352 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:00:16pm

re: #334 Moe Katz

How can anybody dislike that song? One of the best of the '80s. ;)

/Not saying much.

(Perhaps someone would like to bring up some more socially acceptable bands/artists. I'm a huge Replacements/Paul Westerberg fan.)

353 middlecon  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:00:42pm

re: #343 Semi Cartman

It looks like the mob is loose here. Every left interest wants its spoil, like a riot in a shopping center. I'll bet BO doesn't have the balls to stop them.

Reinstating the Fairness Doctrine is just the type of thing to get the Republican base to the voting booth.

Not only that the actual idea is laughable and impractical, could you imagine the death of the AM radio industry if they were forced to put on Air America or soemthing like that for 3 hours a day?

There is really no defending the Fairness Doctrine, only Chuck Schumer is really for it, if he goes forward with it, its a BIG loser for the Dems.

354 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:01:02pm

re: #310 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

How about a link proving that?

As to Sean Connery's misogyny, I can't prove it with a web link, because it's something I heard him repeat on a Barbara Walters interview in the early 90's. He had said as much in an earlier interview with her, and she pressed him on it again. He hadn't changed his views. She even quoted him as saying, in so many words, that he believed "it's a man's right to beat his wife." He stated unequivocally that he hadn't changed his mind.

When I heard that, I vowed that he would get nothing from me until he renounced his medieval attitude. And if he goes to his grave with it, then I'll never again watch a Sean Connery movie.

355 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:01:48pm

re: #324 foxtrotter

Uh, yeah. I only know one guy who is willing to admit he likes Air Supply and, while he isn't gay, he is totally clueless. There are certain bands and songs that you really can't admit you like if you're a guy and have any interest in getting girls. Air Supply is one of those bands. Oh, and Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart is one of those songs.

My Mom has some funny stories about songs that girlfriends (or entire graduating classes in High School) liked when she was a teenager.

One girl she knew loved the song "You've Lost That Loving Feeling" and her boyfriend was rather glum about it for weeks.

She knew someone whose High School graduating class chose "We Got to Get Out of This Place" as their class song. When the school didn't go for it, they chose "It's Kind of a Drag." :-)

356 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:01:49pm

re: #347 laZardo

Good times!

You know what? It's a good tune. It's his singing that irritates me, and I can imagine a more jazz/traditional pop arrangement with a real singer being quite pleasing.

357 wolfie  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:01:53pm

re: #345 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I really hope y'all are right.

358 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:02:18pm

re: #320 Adina in Judea

That's always been a non-starter from the Israeli side. The 1967 borders are indefensible and, besides, a hudna isn't peace, it's a truck stop on the River to the Sea road.

/hopefully, Israel has no intention of further assisting in her own suicide

359 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:02:36pm

re: #352 foxtrotter

How can anybody dislike that song? One of the best of the '80s. ;)

/Not saying much.

(Perhaps someone would like to bring up some more socially acceptable bands/artists. I'm a huge Replacements/Paul Westerberg fan.)

It actually is a good tune, with nice chord changes. His voice grates on my nerves, though.

360 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:03:00pm

re: #349 realwest

and
re: #298 Adina in Judea
Walter said in a response to Walter's e-mail

so I don't see how it was an analogy.

Hey Real..OT here..
Since you were a lawyer..
Did you ever see the movie the rainmaker with i think matt damon?
great movie

361 laZardo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:03:02pm

re: #342 foxtrotter

re: #309 gop_patriot

I never realized how popular it was until someone showed me a web page making fun of it. Then my little brother borrowed it just "so he could have something to talk about."

And now there's gonna be a movie out and I'm like WHAT WHEN WHY HOW THE FUCK DID IT BECOME SO POPULAR!?

/yeah. took me by surprise.

362 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:03:31pm

re: #342 foxtrotter

The first person and short sentences really drove me nuts at first. I put it down and picked it up to try reading again at least 3 times the first day. LOL But I ended up babysitting for a friend and all of our kids that night, after they were all asleep, I was sufficiently bored to keep reading. So once I was over the "ugh this is not up to my usual standard", I finished reading. ;) I do like the story, and hope the movie is good. I'm sure I'll be taking my daughter and her friends; if it's not rude or inappropriate for pre-teens.

363 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:03:39pm

re: #349 realwest

This was the analogy:

But I thought Mr. Spencer's answer spoke volumes. This is like saying "Actually, I am fighting economic problems in Germany, and have no interest in or intention to investigate The Nazi party. Insofar as they are fighting economic problems, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

Mr. Spencer never actually mentioned the Nazi Party.

It was just in the analogy.

See what I mean?

364 middlecon  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:03:52pm

re: #350 wolfie

re: #328 middlecon

The Dems have a seemingly endless supply of money.
They have the MSM to hide whatever they do and spin everything else.
If something happens that they can't hide, they'll blame it on Bush.

If the GOP tries to stop them, they'll be demonized as obstructionists.
If they don't try to stop them, they'll be useless nothings.

Who caught the flak for the mortage meltdown? The Dems who created it or the ones who tried to stop it?

Bush just won in 2004, and Obama only got 53% in 2008, I refuse to beleive that their will never be another motivated conservative movement in the country. If Obama and congress manage to screw up like they are fully capable of, there will be plenty of people ready for a different kind of 'change'.

365 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:03:53pm

re: #348 spidly

Army of Darkness is one of those infinitely quotable movies. Blazing Saddles is another.

366 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:04:06pm

re: #334 Moe Katz

Now the mist across the window hides the lines
But nothing hides the colour of the lights that shine
Electricity so fine look and dry your eyes

We so tired of all the darkness in our lives
With no more angry words to say can come alive
Get into a car and drive to the other side

Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light
You babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light

We are young but getting old before our time
We'll leave the T.V. and the radio behind
Don't you wonder what we'll find steppin' out tonight

You can dress in pink and blue just like a child
And in a yellow taxi turn to me and smile
We'll be there in just a while if you follow me

Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light
You babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light

/Sorry, I'm taken. ; )

367 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:05:19pm

re: #354 victor_yugo

here

368 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:06:09pm

re: #320 Adina in Judea

Thrilling news from Israel about Hamas. Moonbats must be going out of their minds with thoughts of peace and kittens all over the universe:

No peace, but an entire CEASE FIRE in exchange for Israel moving half a million Jews while also allowing millions of Arabs to flood into Israel!

Wow!

/sarc

Haniyeh: Hamas willing to accept Palestinian state with 1967 borders

That's a non-starter. Suicide for Israel.

369 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:06:10pm

re: #358 Killian Bundy

re: #320 Adina in Judea

That's always been a non-starter from the Israeli side. The 1967 borders are indefensible and, besides, a hudna isn't peace, it's a truck stop on the River to the Sea road.

/hopefully, Israel has no intention of further assisting in her own suicide

Israel won't go for committing national suicide in exchange for a cease fire.

I'm sure the moonbats think this is some kind of breakthrough, though.

370 esch  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:06:16pm

re: #365 Honorary Yooper

Army of Darkness is one of those infinitely quotable movies. Blazing Saddles is another.

On my list of Greatest Lines of All Time:

"This, is my BOOMSTICK!"

I could totally see myself saying that.

371 Clemente  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:06:36pm

re: #340 solomonpanting

And the heavenly Fig Galileos.

Naturally, some select Fig Darwins.

372 astronmr20  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:06:41pm

re: #367 Killer Tomato

here

WOW.

373 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:07:08pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

The moonbat superciliously began to inform me that I could not fault the Japanese for this since it is just part of their culture that prisoners have shamed themselves and deserve no mercy. I responded that it was just part of our culture to fire-bomb people who do that kind of shit.

I love it.

374 Clemente  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:07:13pm

re: #371 Clemente

Naturally, some select Fig Darwins.

(uh-oh)

375 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:07:34pm

re: #367 Killer Tomato

here

Bookmarked, thank you!

376 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:07:43pm

re: #368 Moe Katz

That's a non-starter. Suicide for Israel.

Absolutely.

Israel won't go for it, but moonbats will go batty over it as if it's a good deal.

377 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:07:44pm

re: #354 victor_yugo

As to Sean Connery's misogyny, I can't prove it with a web link, because it's something I heard him repeat on a Barbara Walters interview in the early 90's. He had said as much in an earlier interview with her, and she pressed him on it again. He hadn't changed his views. She even quoted him as saying, in so many words, that he believed "it's a man's right to beat his wife." He stated unequivocally that he hadn't changed his mind.

When I heard that, I vowed that he would get nothing from me until he renounced his medieval attitude. And if he goes to his grave with it, then I'll never again watch a Sean Connery movie.


The guy sounds like a jerk... I bet you he is part of the Hollywood Liberal Elite.

378 spidly  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:08:02pm

re: #351 Moe Katz

I'll sing it to my wife. Good idea. I don't sing too well but I have a VERY indulgent wife.

blackwater - doobie brothers will get any song out of your head

379 gman  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:08:05pm

re: #347 laZardo

Good times!

here's to more good times!

380 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:08:15pm

re: #369 Adina in Judea

Israel won't go for committing national suicide in exchange for a cease fire.

I'm sure the moonbats think this is some kind of breakthrough, though.

That was their position when Jimmy Carter last talked to them, wasn't it? What's changed?

381 gmsc  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:08:58pm

Just for fun, a few hilarious Muppet bloopers for everyone to enjoy!

382 Syrah  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:09:05pm

A drive by post.

A violation of the Iron Fist rule.

Too much of a good unpronounceable Spanish wine.

Thankful for the simple blessings that God gives us.

Keep perspective.

Keep a cool head.

Goodnight.

383 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:09:54pm

re: #361 laZardo

It's become an obsession. It's completely weird. I hear teenage girls talking about "Edward" and I know they're not talking about some guy they know from school. They drop his name like he's their personal friend. Yikes.

384 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:10:30pm

re: #378 spidly

blackwater - doobie brothers will get any song out of your head

Anything by the system of the down will cure any linger 80's songs from your mind.
it's like dirty bleach

385 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:10:59pm

re: #354 victor_yugo

As to Sean Connery's misogyny, I can't prove it with a web link, because it's something I heard him repeat on a Barbara Walters interview in the early 90's. He had said as much in an earlier interview with her, and she pressed him on it again. He hadn't changed his views. She even quoted him as saying, in so many words, that he believed "it's a man's right to beat his wife." He stated unequivocally that he hadn't changed his mind.

When I heard that, I vowed that he would get nothing from me until he renounced his medieval attitude. And if he goes to his grave with it, then I'll never again watch a Sean Connery movie.

Baba Wawa, your source? She's on "The View". Gimme a break.

386 BakaRanger  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:12:21pm

re: #145 Adina in Judea

He can collect billions this way from our enemies or anyone else on Earth for his own intentions. No one will ever know what this guy is doing.

Public officials are NOT supposed to take money from others like this.

It's against the law.

/ No controlling legal authority.

387 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:12:28pm

re: #378 spidly

blackwater - doobie brothers will get any song out of your head

Well, crap. Now that song is stuck in my head.

/heading to iTunes, need some A7x

388 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:12:33pm

re: #385 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Baba Wawa, your source? She's on "The View". Gimme a break.

I tend to take anything Bawa Wawa says with a grain of salt. She's always been a little off-kilter. She desperately needed more time with Stossel on the air to get her some sanity.

389 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:12:45pm

re: #381 gmsc

Just for fun, a few hilarious Muppet bloopers for everyone to enjoy!

Oh no you don't. I have used that same video for my friends. After they beat up on me the next time we met up. . . . . .

/yes they admitted that it was really well done. still didn't forgive me though.

390 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:12:51pm

re: #380 Moe Katz

re: #369 Adina in Judea

Israel won't go for committing national suicide in exchange for a cease fire.

I'm sure the moonbats think this is some kind of breakthrough, though.

That was their position when Jimmy Carter last talked to them, wasn't it? What's changed?

Moonbats will probably see it as a breakthrough that Hamas is talking about accepting a "Palestinian" state at all. They will gloss over the part about how Hamas isn't saying that there would be peace.

Ha'aretz has this as their lead story right now and they're not talking about it as if it's a ridiculous offer. They're not claiming it's a breakthrough either, but the headline sounds kind of breakthrough-ish (if you know what I mean.)

391 Sprite  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:13:00pm

Completely off topic, I'm sure. But I am grieving. I am losing not only family members but also very close, old friends with this election. Unfortunately, most of my family are moonbats. Here is the last of the email exchanges today with my moonbat, Ph.d. (in health care), sister. Mine to her:

One more thing. I am truly sick of lefties like you who immediately name call and suggest you think I'm/we're (conservatives) nuts for pointing out Facts and Reality about which you are clearly unaware! I didn't make up all the news reports. I am not responsible for his heinous, multiple connections to terrorists and their supporters. And I cannot help it that you've chosen not to investigate on your own, as I have.

You can choose to wear rose colored glasses or not. I prefer facts.

My heart weeps for you. And I pray you will begin some extensive reading on 'Dear Leader'. Soon! I've given you plenty of places to start. Actually, I gave several a long time ago when you and Jon forwarded the silky tongue's speech. Obviously you didn't. But I can always "hope" for "change".

392 gop_patriot  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:13:14pm

re: #385 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Baba Wawa, your source? She's on "The View". Gimme a break.

See #367 above

393 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:14:21pm

re: #369 Adina in Judea

Israel won't go for committing national suicide in exchange for a cease fire.

I'm sure the moonbats think this is some kind of breakthrough, though.

Well, you've probably already read a lot of what I had to say on the subject, so I won't bore you. The "moonbats" are going to double down on the pressure.

/no matter what they say in public, you have no friends in power here for the next four years, they've effectively switched sides, you're pretty much on your own and your neighboring enemies know it

394 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:15:56pm

re: #330 realwest

I agree with you - I saw it too - it was not a radio broadcast, it was on B&W TV and it was live. He didn't say it however, to the husband, but to Mrs. Story - I remember that so well because the other contestent was a guy and he looked SHOCKED at what Groucho had said. And as you said, it went IMMEDIATELY to a test pattern.

Now, you have me doubting my self!

You as an attorney and me as an attorneys son and grandson - memory in legal cases is open for all sorts of challenges.

[Link: books.google.com...]

I know there was a guy and gal on stage but my memory says the guy spoke it.

I'm willing to be wrong - but the point is that it happened and Snopes is wrong.

395 Steffan  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:15:57pm

re: #328 middlecon

I don't see why not, if there is a coherent message and a repeat of 1994 its VERY possible. We are talking about a Congress with even lower approval ratings than President Bush.

RCP Average 10/23 - 11/02 positive: 17.3 negative: 74.0
point spread: -56.7

I mean, jeez. The NYT has higher approval ratings.

Incidentally, the numbers for President Bush:

RCP Average 10/30 - 11/02 positive: 27.8 negative: 68.3
point spread: -40.5

396 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:16:18pm

re: #153 Killer Tomato

They're going to be such a charming first couple, don't you think? Marvelous ambassadors for the US. Just ooze class.

Caustic, sarcastic response: But they're so cool!

Corrolary to caustic response: If we're going to have a "cool" non-white person up there, why not the mocha-colored girl with big poofy hair who sells everything from clothes at Target, to ipods? She'd be a great President. Think of how much fun the UN would be! And how could the Russians or the Iranians say no to a hip dancing girl in a sweatsuit? She'd give everybody ipods and then Ahmedinejad would start dancing around and it would be like one big coke commercial. Who needs Obama's "tough times and hard work ahead of us"?

Further along that line of thought: Why not just skip the marketing and go straight for direct consumer stimulus? Instead of silly old "refundable tax cuts", why not hand out coupons and gift certificates? Like instead of a $500 Demogrant, they send you a $200 Best Buy gift card and a coupon for a free meal at Sonic if you test drive a GM automobile. Think that might piss off the Obamatons just a little? "Where's my free money!"

I should be on the Obama Cabinet as Secretary for Dumb Ideas. I can't be any worse than the guys he has now.

397 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:16:26pm

re: #393 Killian Bundy

Well, you've probably already read a lot of what I had to say on the subject, so I won't bore you. The "moonbats" are going to double down on the pressure.

/no matter what they say in public, you have no friends in power here for the next four years, they've effectively switched sides, you're pretty much on your own and your neighboring enemies know it

speaking of moonbats..prior to tuesday you were a moonbat..
Now they are mainstream...
/

398 foxtrotter  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:16:26pm

re: #362 gop_patriot

The first person and short sentences really drove me nuts at first. I put it down and picked it up to try reading again at least 3 times the first day. LOL But I ended up babysitting for a friend and all of our kids that night, after they were all asleep, I was sufficiently bored to keep reading. So once I was over the "ugh this is not up to my usual standard", I finished reading. ;) I do like the story, and hope the movie is good. I'm sure I'll be taking my daughter and her friends; if it's not rude or inappropriate for pre-teens.

Did you read book 4? I didn't read it myself, but I think quite a few people were floored by where she went with the story. I won't spoil it, but there were quite a few complaints.

One of the positives I can see from the books is a resurgence in the use of the name Edward. Excellent name and I am willing to accept lots of little Edwards running around in exchange for having to sell more copies of the Twilight series. (Though I prefer Edmund as a similar name, personally.)

If you like Vampire stories and don't mind some violence/goriness, I recommend the first 6 books of Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series. After book 6 she goes into territory best left unexplored, but the first 6 books are kick ass action with a tough gun-toting vampire hunter. Definitely adult, but good solid horror.

399 JacksonTn  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:16:43pm

re: #391 Sprite

Completely off topic, I'm sure. But I am grieving. I am losing not only family members but also very close, old friends with this election. Unfortunately, most of my family are moonbats. Here is the last of the email exchanges today with my moonbat, Ph.d. (in health care), sister. Mine to her:

Sprite ..so sorry ..it has happened so much during this election ..I hope it will pass ..family is so important ..

400 pbird  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:17:48pm

re: #385 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Baba Wawa, your source? She's on "The View". Gimme a break.

I am positive that he was pulling her chain just for the hell of it.

401 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:18:10pm

re: #390 Adina in Judea

Moonbats will probably see it as a breakthrough that Hamas is talking about accepting a "Palestinian" state at all. They will gloss over the part about how Hamas isn't saying that there would be peace.

Ha'aretz has this as their lead story right now and they're not talking about it as if it's a ridiculous offer. They're not claiming it's a breakthrough either, but the headline sounds kind of breakthrough-ish (if you know what I mean.)

Nothing surprises me from Al-Aretz.

402 realwest  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:19:15pm

re: #338 Adina in Judea
Ah, wait a minute, Walter's exact quote that I was referring to was "Here was his reply to me... 'Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied.' "
What it was that Walter wrote was " asking him if he had any intention of looking into the European nationalist political parties that seem to display a great deal of racism. Here was his reply to me... "Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."
I obviously transposed the analogy to what Mr. Spencer said, but my "net effect" was correct: it was plausable deniability on Mr. Spencer's part to say that insofar as they are doing anything else [other than fightin jihad] my endorsement is not implied [which of course means either he doesn't endorse it or he does, but hasn't said so yet.

403 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:19:38pm

re: #367 Killer Tomato

here

Explain this- Why does Baba Wawa look like she's indoors, and Sean Cnnery is outside?

404 Adina in Judea  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:19:45pm

re: #391 Sprite

Completely off topic, I'm sure. But I am grieving. I am losing not only family members but also very close, old friends with this election. Unfortunately, most of my family are moonbats. Here is the last of the email exchanges today with my moonbat, Ph.d. (in health care), sister.

It's sad, indeed.

I have a lot of moonbats in my family, too. Liberal Jews.

They now have three family members (including me) who are religious Jews who live in the dreaded settlements in Israel, though. I think they spend so much time doing moonbat apology dances for having "obstacles to peace" relatives that it takes the wind out of their sails when they talk to us.

Hang in there!

405 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:20:16pm

Sh*t ...

Source:
UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs

HIGHLIGHTS
- The Earthquake in Balochistan province has left 166
deaths and 370 injured (government confirmed figure).

- According to the initial results of McRAM (Multi-Cluster
Rapid Assessment Mechanism) survey of 36 villages in the
three earthquake affected districts of Balochistan (Ziarat,
Pishin and Harnai) Ziarat is the worst affected. Around
68,200 people were affected in the area and need
assistance. About 7,600 houses have been completely or
partially damaged.

SITUATION

1. An earthquake of magnitude 6.4 has hit Balochistan
province in south-western Pakistan on 29 October. According
to the US Geological Survey, the epicenter of the quake was
in Chiltan mountains, 80 kilometers northwest of Quetta.
The first tremor struck at 4:09 am local time (23:09 GMT)
at a depth of 10 kilometer while the second one came at
5:15 am. The affected region is the mountainous area
extending from Ziarat, about 110 KMs northeast of Quetta to
Pishin, Qilla Abdullah to Chaman (border town along Afghan
border). Provincial Disaster Management Authority (PDMA)
reports that the worst hit area falls within villages
Khanozai and Topa Achakzai in eastern Pishin district and
Wachun Kawas village in Ziarat district and possibly Harnai
district (east of Ziarat).

2. According to the initial results of McRAM (Multi-Cluster
Rapid Assessment Mechanism) survey conducted from 31
October to 3 November 2008 in 36 villages of the three most
affected districts of Balochistan, 50% of the 68,200 people
affected are children. Most urgent needs include shelter,
food, warm clothing, emergency medical care, water and
sanitation facilities. Over 32% of the affected population
need immediate shelter and about 62%of the affected
population have no food stock, and those who have will run
out of it within 2-4 weeks

Summary of Damages according to Multi Cluster Rapid
Assessment Mechanism

406 HoosierHoops  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:21:15pm

re: #402 realwest

you are using dem lawyers words again realwest...
LOL
Good movie on..i can't go to bed
A beautiful mind

407 Killer Tomato  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:21:56pm

re: #403 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hey OMD!
Beats the shit outta me - I wasn't there when it was filmed. Video link thingy?

408 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:23:15pm

re: #404 Adina in Judea

It's sad, indeed.

I have a lot of moonbats in my family, too. Liberal Jews.

They now have three family members (including me) who are religious Jews who live in the dreaded settlements in Israel, though. I think they spend so much time doing moonbat apology dances for having "obstacles to peace" relatives that it takes the wind out of their sails when they talk to us.

Hang in there!

How far right are you, Adina? Like the Kahanists?

409 shanec99  Sat, Nov 8, 2008 11:24:49pm

re: #404 Adina in Judea

It's sad, indeed.

I have a lot of moonbats in my family, too. Liberal Jews.

They now have three family members (including me) who are religious Jews who live in the dreaded settlements in Israel, though. I think they spend so much time doing moonbat apology dances for having "obstacles to peace" relatives that it takes the wind out of their sails when they talk to us.

Hang in there!


My step sister is one of my favorite people in the world, she is a lawyer and moonbat... so she has wierd ideas, but she is a skillfull orator who can hold her own in most arguments even if the facts are stacked high against her (Kind of like the Late Johnnie C