Overnight Open Thread
Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.
— Samuel Johnson
Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.
— Samuel Johnson
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Nov 9, 2008 9:57:15pm |
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Dustyvet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 9:58:16pm |
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 9:59:31pm |
To all Jarhead lizards
Happy Birthday Marines
Past Present and Future
Wherever you are.
November 10, 1775 to November 10, 2008
233 years of Honor, Sacrifice and a Proud Tradition.
Scuttlebutt has it that Chesty has been trying to get a 72 hour pass from The Pearly Gates, for a quick visit to PA to adjust the attitude of a certain congress critter.
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WindHorse Sun, Nov 9, 2008 9:59:51pm |
Don't tell me... uhh... that...uhhh words don't matter.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:01:54pm |
re: #5 MarineGrunt
Chesty? He'd only need 8 hours, if that much...
/and even that's A Pittance of Time
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Steve Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:01:57pm |
I'm not crazy. I'm just medicated for a chemical imbalance!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:01:59pm |
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:02:19pm |
re: #5 MarineGrunt
When ABSCAM Murtha dies, he'll surely get 17 virgins as they say.
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DesertSage Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:03:24pm |
re: #5 MarineGrunt
To all Jarhead lizards
Happy Birthday Marines
Past Present and Future
Wherever you are.November 10, 1775 to November 10, 2008
233 years of Honor, Sacrifice and a Proud Tradition.Scuttlebutt has it that Chesty has been trying to get a 72 hour pass from The Pearly Gates, for a quick visit to PA to adjust the attitude of a certain congress critter.
Semper Fi!
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jcm Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:04:39pm |
The vets of the local VFW post where out selling flags at the grocery store today. I bought one for each my boys 5 and 4. Paid way to much for the flags, but they were worth every dime. I then had the boys say thank you to each of the vets. They don't know why yet, but they will learn later.
Best part of my day, shaking hands with some old men and saying thank you for something they did before I was born.
Veteran's day is Tuesday. Find a vet and thank them.
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Dustyvet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:04:41pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
When ABSCAM Murtha dies, he'll surely get 17 virgins as they say.
17...and no Viagra...:)
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:05:03pm |
Semper Fi marines! You have a special role in America's defense and as a ex-swabbie I salute you!
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:05:45pm |
re: #10 Gus 802
Murtha will be in charge of perimeter integrity, (picking up butts)
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Dustyvet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:06:29pm |
re: #12 jcm
The vets of the local VFW post where out selling flags at the grocery store today. I bought one for each my boys 5 and 4. Paid way to much for the flags, but they were worth every dime. I then had the boys say thank you to each of the vets. They don't know why yet, but they will learn later.
Best part of my day, shaking hands with some old men and saying thank you for something they did before I was born.
Veteran's day is Tuesday. Find a vet and thank them.
This old Veteran just reared up, thanks for sharing that.
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ggt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:06:32pm |
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is the definition if insanity.
---unknown
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:06:38pm |
re: #3 Macker
God, I need a drink.
How 'bout some nice Grey Goose, ice and lime? Got a lot of it, but am working through it steadily.
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stuiec Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:06:55pm |
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Dustyvet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:06:59pm |
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:07:12pm |
re: #15 MarineGrunt
That or latrine duty burning up the "stools."
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jcm Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:07:29pm |
re: #17 Dustyvet
This old Veteran just reared up, thanks for sharing that.
Thank you, Dustyvet, thank you.
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:07:40pm |
re: #18 ggt
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is the definition if insanity.
---unknown
I think that's an Einstein quote. A least I used it a lot in my job at a lot of meetings!
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Steve Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:09:12pm |
re: #5 MarineGrunt
To all Jarhead lizards
Happy Birthday Marines
Past Present and Future
Wherever you are.November 10, 1775 to November 10, 2008
233 years of Honor, Sacrifice and a Proud Tradition.Scuttlebutt has it that Chesty has been trying to get a 72 hour pass from The Pearly Gates, for a quick visit to PA to adjust the attitude of a certain congress critter.
I'll second that with a big thank you for all of marines.
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ggt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:09:18pm |
re: #25 Russkilitlover
Einstein works . .
Kinda like Mark Twain for funny sayings that seem very American.
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wolfie Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:09:39pm |
re: #4 Sharmuta
He was doing very well until he started campaigning.
Beats me.
Maybe he was too far ahead in the polls too soon.
I dunno.
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:09:59pm |
re: #15 MarineGrunt
Murtha will be in charge of perimeter integrity, (picking up butts)
Was he really re-elected? WTF is going on in his district?
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:10:08pm |
Lizards in the Philly area tomorrow stop by Cookies Tavern, Oregon Ave. and 10th Street and celebrate with us.
Plenty of food and drink for all.
And the cake too.
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Steve Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:10:44pm |
re: #7 Karridine
Chesty? He'd only need 8 hours, if that much...
/and even that's A Pittance of Time
Thanks for that. I got a few tears in my eyes.
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nnorb Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:11:13pm |
Marines,
I an my family salute you and owe you a deep thanks of gratitude!
Norb
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DesertSage Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:11:29pm |
I'm already getting sick of this guy.
WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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Dustyvet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:11:31pm |
"Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". "
Major General Chesty Puller, USMC - while on a Battalion inspection.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:16pm |
re: #15 MarineGrunt
Murtha will be in charge of perimeter integrity, (picking up butts)
In the Army its called "grounds beautification".
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DesertSage Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:20pm |
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jcm Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:20pm |
re: #31 MarineGrunt
Lizards in the Philly area tomorrow stop by Cookies Tavern, Oregon Ave. and 10th Street and celebrate with us.
Plenty of food and drink for all.
And the cake too.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:23pm |
Shanghai, Bougainville, Peleliu, Corregidor, Iwo Jima!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:23pm |
re: #7 Karridine
Chesty? He'd only need 8 hours, if that much...
/and even that's A Pittance of Time
Love that song. It just strikes at the heart strings demanding they surrender.
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wolfie Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:36pm |
Murtha. ABSCAM Murtha.
And they elect him again and again.
No wonder lefties think people can't take care of themselves.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:54pm |
Good afternoon, Reptilia.
I got out of my first class early because the teacher was called to a faculty meeting. Anything positive going on?
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:12:55pm |
Haar mates, I am about to leave this place, just wanted all to know that today was the best day of 'me life in three years after 'me divorce and LGF was a big part of what has been a big turn around in my life! Many thanks mates! You have been good friends when the chips were down and I needed every friend I could find.
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Dustyvet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:13:08pm |
"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an
enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
When the Marines were cut off behind enemy lines and the Army had written
the 1st Marine Division off as being lost because they were surrounded by 22
enemy divisions. The Marines made it out inflicting the highest casualty
ratio on an enemy in history and destroying 7 entire enemy divisions in the
process. An enemy division is 16500+ men while a Marine division is 12500 men.
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Steve Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:13:08pm |
"A wise word does not need repeating as does a competent assassin!"
From the movie "Prince of Foxes"
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:13:19pm |
re: #34 DesertSage
I'm already getting sick of this guy.
WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Gah, gah, gaggge.
Someone - I need a Heimlich right now!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:13:32pm |
Los Angeles area Marines, go to Conrad's Restaurant in Pasadena, Lake & Walnut. There's a bar. We don't get there until 8:30 but if you want to get it going early, go ahead.
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griffon Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:14:06pm |
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stevieray Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:15:08pm |
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DesertSage Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:15:27pm |
re: #47 Pvt Bin Jammin
Los Angeles area Marines, go to Conrad's Restaurant in Pasadena, Lake & Walnut. There's a bar. We don't get there until 8:30 but if you want to get it going early, go ahead.
Alright, let me write this down...
Conrad's
Pasadena
How will I know you when I get there?
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:15:48pm |
re: #34 DesertSage
I'm already getting sick of this guy.
WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
FILL UP YOUR TANKS TODAY!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:16:01pm |
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:17:13pm |
re: #34 DesertSage
"And what's wrong with placing priority on alternative energy sources as fossil fuels are just sooo~ 20th Century!?"
/yeah, they've said that
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poopeedoo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:17:30pm |
Happy birthday, Marines! My dad was a Marine and died a bit over 20 years ago from cancer. I still get tears in my eyes when I hear the Marine Corps hymn or see Marines in their dress blues.
Thanks for ALL that you do.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:17:45pm |
re: #52 DesertSage
I'll be with Santa. LOL Remember our first "war council" meeting.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:18:22pm |
re: #32 SteveSteve, those clothes, hairdos, faces, protests... reminded ME of why I enlisted in 1964... for Korea!
/and yes, no dry eyes even on the third viewing!
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Idle Drifter Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:18:34pm |
Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.
— Samuel Johnson
Sort of developing a nuclear hand grenade, pulling the pin and dropping it at your own feet.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:18:51pm |
re: #43 LoFlyer
Cheers, mate. Been thinking of leaving too...if for different reasons. But I shall not wallow in them for the moment.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:19:37pm |
re: #50 MarineGrunt
Sweet. But I still think that's above his pay grade.
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:20:37pm |
Republicans-O, Rebublicans-O, wherefore art thou?
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Macker Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:20:46pm |
re: #19 Russkilitlover
Thank you for the offer. I prefer Bourbon & Coke myself!
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DesertSage Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:21:22pm |
re: #60 Pvt Bin Jammin
I'll be with Santa. LOL Remember our first "war council" meeting.
I do. Fun times!
We were all worried about Hillary getting elected :')
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:22:48pm |
re: #66 Macker
Thank you for the offer. I prefer Bourbon & Coke myself!
No hangover with Wodka...really, the Russkies have something good here. Caviar and cream doesn't hurt, either!
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gmsc Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:23:05pm |
re: #65 Russkilitlover
Republicans-O, Rebublicans-O, wherefore art thou?
We're busy denying thy president, and refusing his name.
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Russkilitlover Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:23:44pm |
re: #71 gmsc
We're busy denying thy president, and refusing his name.
And smashing Sarah Palin, just for good measure. Gah.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:24:19pm |
Carlos Hathcock Interview - Part 1 of 3
How do you know that?
/"I shot through his scope, right straight through his scope, didn't touch the sides, and it didn't do his eyesight no good"
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:24:39pm |
re: #69 DesertSage
LOL Yes we were. "Those were the days, my friend." I don't think we had heard of OB back then.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:25:55pm |
Shakespeare meets the GOP.
/Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this son of York.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:26:39pm |
Hey, speaking of the Marines. If you ever want to read a great book, read "With the Old Breed" by E. B. Sledge.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:27:58pm |
re: #78 Gus 802
I'll check it out. I grew up around an old "salty dog".
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Catttt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:27:59pm |
re: #34 DesertSage
I'm already getting sick of this guy.
WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Wow. DUH stuff, huh? Doesn't he know that the whole embryonic stem cell thing is so yesterday? Science marches on beyond the old embrionic stem cell thing. The direct reprogramming technique, which transforms adult stem cells into an embryonic-like state, is proving more useful. People have actually been helped. ESC research thus far has helped no one and killed a number of lab animals, which is why the USA has thus far not allowed any human testing. And The O wants us to pay for all that.
And as to "green" power - I'm anti-windmill. Windmills kill bats. I think I'm going to produce a bumper sticker on that...
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:29:24pm |
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]
WASHINGTON -- President-elect Barack Obama's advisers are quietly crafting a proposal to ship dozens, if not hundreds, of imprisoned terrorism suspects to the United States to face criminal trials, a plan that would make good on his promise to close the Guantanamo Bay prison but could require creation of a controversial new system of justice.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:32:42pm |
re: #78 Gus 802
Old breed New breed There's not a damn bit of difference so long as it's the Marine Breed.
Lieutenant General Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
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Adina in Judea Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:33:05pm |
re: #84 gmsc
So, any updates on the progress on BO day?
If everyone stops taking showers for a week, that ought to do it.
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:33:43pm |
re: #12 jcm Absolutely Spot on post jcm - I hope all Americans will fly the flag on Tuesday November 11th and, if time and work permitts, visit a VA hospital to say thanks as well.
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Old Engineer Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:34:39pm |
In commemoration of the upcoming Veteran's Day the minister of my church today asked all veterans to rise and be commended for their service.
I rose with perhaps twenty others, and heard applause through my tears.
Several members personally thanked me later for my service. I felt somewhat humbled, for, although I was Infantry-trained, I never had a shot fired at me, I never had to kill another human, I was not wounded, and was never truly deprived.
I sometimes feel gulty because I lived, have had a good life, while many of my buddies were not so lucky. Some were killed. Some were grievosly wounded, some went mad, and all but a handful have gone on to a better place. I am grateful for my blessings.
God bless this land and the people in it.
Old Engineer
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jcm Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:35:01pm |
re: #82 capitalist piglet
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]
What a fucking circus that will be. Can you see the defense subpoenaing the troops who captured the bastards being put on the stand.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:35:12pm |
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:35:42pm |
re: #87 realwest
Being all the way over here and thus technically unable to visit a VA hospital, all you vets have this scrawny nerd's best regards. Thank you all for your service, regardless of how grateful those you serve for tend to be.
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jcm Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:37:46pm |
re: #92 logboy
Who here was a POG or a Grunt. Be honest!
I cannot tell a lie.
I was a zoomie corpsman.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:38:01pm |
We live free because those that fought for our freedom made the ultimate sacrifice.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:38:10pm |
re: #88 Old Engineer
Its OK. Being shot at is completely overrated.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:38:30pm |
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funky chicken Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:39:29pm |
re: #4 Sharmuta
RUDY in 2012!
How about when primary season starts, Rudy and Palin announce they are going to run as Giuliani/Palin. Rudy for POTUS, Palin for VP?
I like that a whole lot better than Palin/Jindal. Jindal is a fantastic governor for LA, because folks down there don't mind his rather extreme religious stances. He'd even be a good US Senator from LA, if he's interested. But I would be shocked if he could pull off a national electoral victory---of course I'm shocked somebody who sat in "Rev Goddamned America Wright's" church just got elected.
The media double standard would sink the conservative though.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:39:49pm |
re: #92 logboy
Not me. I tried joining the AF and the Navy many moons ago. Got flat feet and color deficiency so I didn't want to get into boiler maker in the Navy. Passed my ASVABs with flying colors.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:39:51pm |
Carlos Hathcock Interview - Part 2 of 3
/free sniper training
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Idle Drifter Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:39:55pm |
re: #81 Cattt
Not to mention they're expensive, reliant on wind (the sailors during the vast age of sail where superstitious for a reason), interfere radar, take up more land space than conventional power plants and have an appetite for subsidies.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:40:03pm |
re: #5 MarineGrunt
To all Jarhead lizards
Happy Birthday Marines
Past Present and Future
Wherever you are.November 10, 1775 to November 10, 2008
233 years of Honor, Sacrifice and a Proud Tradition.Scuttlebutt has it that Chesty has been trying to get a 72 hour pass from The Pearly Gates, for a quick visit to PA to adjust the attitude of a certain congress critter.
And now, we get to find out whether 233 is old enough to function on heir own, without a leader.
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:40:18pm |
re: #15 MarineGrunt
re: #10 Gus 802
re: #23 Gus 802
re: #41 wolfie
re: #50 MarineGrunt
With all due respect, from an Army Veteran, his proper name out here on LGF - and it should be everywhere - is John Fucking Murtha.
Just thought y'all ought to know that and I know my friend and a Marine himself, Desert Sage, will support me on this.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:40:53pm |
re: #89 jcm
What a fucking circus that will be. Can you see the defense subpoenaing the troops who captured the bastards being put on the stand.
Oh yeah - from the article:
Prosecuting all detainees in federal courts raises a host of problems. Evidence gathered through military interrogation or from intelligence sources might be thrown out. Defendants would have the right to confront witnesses, meaning undercover CIA officers or terrorist turncoats might have to take the stand, jeopardizing their cover and revealing classified intelligence tactics.
This guy is playing with fire on so many levels. His ideas alone scare the hell out of me.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:41:15pm |
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Colonel Panik Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:41:33pm |
Here's another great Marine that should not be forgotten: the father of modern amphibious warfare, General Holland M. "Howling Mad" Smith, who led the Marines to victory at Tarawa, Saipan, and Iwo Jima.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:41:48pm |
re: #92 logboy
Who here was a
POGPogue or a Grunt. Be honest!
0331
"If it ain't belt fed, it ain't shit"
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:41:55pm |
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:42:07pm |
re: #36 logboy
In my day, the Army called it "Policing the Parade Ground".
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BignJames Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:42:43pm |
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:43:37pm |
re: #39 Gus 802
And Khe Sahn. And to the memory of LGFer USMC 1968 who won the Silver Star there, and lost his life to cancer one month ago.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:44:12pm |
re: #104 gmsc
And now, we get to find out whether 233 is old enough to function on heir own, without a leader.
Does not matter, The leader of Marines lives at 8th and I DC
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jcm Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:46:26pm |
re: #107 capitalist piglet
This guy is playing with fire on so many levels. His ideas alone scare the hell out of me.
Obama a POTUS in WWII.
Obama: What do you mean we STOLE that Enigma thingy from the Germans!
Donovan: Well, sir it will lets know all the secret German communications.
Obama: I don't care, give it back and apologize for taking it!
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:46:47pm |
USAF, E-7, Ret.
Aircraft Armament, S. E. A.
B-52, B-57, F-4, F-100, 0-1, T-28
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:47:03pm |
re: #115 realwest
And Khe Sahn. And to the memory of LGFer USMC 1968 who won the Silver Star there, and lost his life to cancer one month ago.
The Place of my Baptismal under fire, Khe Sanh Combat Base, Hills 881, 861 Delta 1/26th Marines
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jcm Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:47:37pm |
re: #115 realwest
And Khe Sahn. And to the memory of LGFer USMC 1968 who won the Silver Star there, and lost his life to cancer one month ago.
Thanks for that update.
And as USMC1968 put it, "The medal was for my friends who did not make it home."
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:48:46pm |
Carlos Hathcock Interview - Part 3 of 3
/Semper Fi
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:49:05pm |
I'm going to come out and say this... I do fear for you vets sometimes. Especially how things could turn out in a few years, you guys could as well be the subject of more revile than respect.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:49:06pm |
Pogue?
POG, Persons Other than Grunts, Person Other than a Grunt, or something along those lines. (Or as we always said, If you squat to pee, don't carry a weapon, or stay inside the wire you're one of them.)
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:49:24pm |
re: #115 realwest
Yes. Khe San too. Was sad to hear of USMC1968's passing.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:49:36pm |
re: #115 realwest
And Khe Sahn. And to the memory of LGFer USMC 1968 who won the Silver Star there, and lost his life to cancer one month ago.
Do you Know his name, I have the rosters of all unit that were at Khe Sanh
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:49:59pm |
re: #91 laZardo
Thank you laZardo, but we served the United States of America and all the people who live(d) here, not any particular group, all Americans.
And Thank you, again.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:50:23pm |
re: #118 FamHistoryGuy
Nice aircraft. You ever do any Wild Weasels or Mistys?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:50:35pm |
re: #115 realwest
And Khe Sahn. And to the memory of LGFer USMC 1968 who won the Silver Star there, and lost his life to cancer one month ago.
God Bless our friend, USMC 1968. Happy Birthday. We miss you.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:51:21pm |
Happy Birthday Devil Dogs.
This Navy Corpsman (8404/8425) loves you. Thanks for all the memories and friendships.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:53:06pm |
re: #123 laZardo
I'm going to come out and say this... I do fear for you vets sometimes. Especially how things could turn out in a few years, you guys could as well be the subject of more revile than respect.
I'm worried about that right now. If BOzo pulls out of Iraq and fails us then our sacrifice has been for nothing. The demoncraps have been saying for years that Iraq is Vietnam. I would not be at all surprised if they yanked us out in a hurry and cut off funding to turn it into just that. We all know what they would say then. "See, we told you Iraq was a failure."
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:53:20pm |
re: #124 logboy
Pogue?
POG, Persons Other than Grunts, Person Other than a Grunt, or something along those lines. (Or as we always said, If you squat to pee, don't carry a weapon, or stay inside the wire you're one of them.)
Fobbits?
/term I picked up from a novel.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:53:39pm |
re: #132 logboy
The twoofers on my art site are rejoicing like no tomorrow on my art site as well.
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MajorPribluda Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:54:07pm |
re: #78 Gus 802
Hey, speaking of the Marines. If you ever want to read a great book, read "With the Old Breed" by E. B. Sledge.
This is indeed an awesome book. I re-read it on Okinawa, and kept looking at the miserable jungle ridgelines. I have given that book away four or five times.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:54:19pm |
re: #131 shanec99
My USMC family thanks you, Doc. We have a young corpsman in the family too. He just got out, but he served in Fallujah.
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:55:06pm |
re: #92 logboy
I was an 11 Bravo - light weapons infantry. But without all of the brave men (women weren't in "my" army, damnit!) who served in the rear, the medics, the chopper pilots and crews, the truck drivers and the like, I'd a been eatin' more grass and throwing stones instead of lead.
The REMF's deserve recognition and are every bit as much veterans as are those who served in the Combat Arms.
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pat Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:55:23pm |
Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.
I live that. Expressed far better than my usual rude instruction.
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Idle Drifter Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:55:55pm |
re: #89 jcm
What a fucking circus that will be. Can you see the defense subpoenaing the troops who captured the bastards being put on the stand.
Did you hear that crack of thunder? I believe it was a epic facepalm.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:57:39pm |
re: #135 MajorPribluda
It's a classic. I should re-read it myself to jog my memory. It is a must read.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:58:37pm |
re: #133 BlueCanuck
Fobbits?
/term I picked up from a novel.
Yup! We made fun of them all the time. Oh sure, they do their best to look battle hard while walking to the DFAC. But it was clear by the look on their faces when we rolled in the gate fresh off a covoy who was doing the dirty work.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:59:17pm |
re: #131 shanec99
Happy Birthday Devil Dogs.
This Navy Corpsman (8404/8425) loves you. Thanks for all the memories and friendships.
All Corpsman are Marines, as far as this Grunt is concerned,
Happy Birthday Doc
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gmsc Sun, Nov 9, 2008 10:59:51pm |
re: #116 MarineGrunt
Does not matter, The leader of Marines lives at 8th and I DC
It's a good thing the leader can be found in the barracks, because it sure can't be found in the Barack.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:00:52pm |
re: #143 MarineGrunt
All Corpsman are Marines, as far as this Grunt is concerned,
Happy Birthday Doc
Awesome. That is so cool of you to say.
Semper Fi, MarineGrunt.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:01:13pm |
re: #119 MarineGruntI thank you for your service, MG...
/one of my buddies from The Island on the Korean DMZ was from 'Nam a year earlier than Khe San... had 4 evenly-spaced scars from his right hip to his left shoulder... "stitched", he called it...
/and then we'd sit, silently, staring for hours at the Peoples' Republic just north across those few meters of Han River...
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:01:17pm |
re: #123 laZardo
Hey my friend - I was an infantryman in Vietnam, and I've already been the subject of more revile than respect.
But never again.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:01:20pm |
re: #136 Pvt Bin Jammin
My USMC family thanks you, Doc. We have a young corpsman in the family too. He just got out, but he served in Fallujah.
The three most memorable days in the life of a Navy Corpsman:
The day you earn your Cadeuce
The day you complete FMSS and earn the 8404 NEC
The day a Marine says to you: "Hey Doc, come have a drink, you are one of us."
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:01:55pm |
re: #131 shanec99
Happy Birthday Devil Dogs.
This Navy Corpsman (8404/8425) loves you. Thanks for all the memories and friendships.
I've been up late reading The Yanks Are Coming (Marrin) about WWI. Just finished the bit where he tells about the Marines acquiring the name Devil Dogs. Aka Hounds of Hell. The Marine Battalion of the US Second Division. Belleau Wood, renamed in honor of the Marines.
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Syrah Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:02:26pm |
Goodnight all.
Do not lose sight of the forest for the leaves on the trees.
Keep a cool head.
We are up against some rough times.
Remember to be good to and forgiving of your friends. We will all have need of each other.
Keep a cool head.
Storms 'a coming.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:02:40pm |
re: #137 realwest
I was an 11 Bravo - light weapons infantry. But without all of the brave men (women weren't in "my" army, damnit!) who served in the rear, the medics, the chopper pilots and crews, the truck drivers and the like, I'd a been eatin' more grass and throwing stones instead of lead.
The REMF's deserve recognition and are every bit as much veterans as are those who served in the Combat Arms.
No Air Assault or Airborne? I went to Air Assault School the summer of 2005 before we left for Iraq. Let me tell you, rappelling out of a UH60 at 90 feet is pretty damn cool.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:03:30pm |
re: #143 MarineGrunt
All Corpsman are Marines, as far as this Grunt is concerned,
Happy Birthday Doc
God bless you Devil Dog, I will never forget my tours at French Creek, in Desert Shield/Desert Storm, Camp Hansen or Camp Fuji. Good times.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:03:51pm |
re: #132 logboy
The demoncraps have been saying for years that Iraq is Vietnam. I would not be at all surprised if they yanked us out in a hurry and cut off funding to turn it into just that. We all know what they would say then. "See, we told you Iraq was a failure."
If they do that THIS time, I will volunteer for some unpaid Corps to take our returning heroes' place... I'd much rather die in Iraq, for something good, than live in USSA for something shabby, Logboy!
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:04:11pm |
re: #126 MarineGrunt
I do know his name - we communicated several times as we both had served in Vietnam and we both suffer -- well he died of - metastasizing prostate cancer.
But I will not give out his name. No disrespect intended.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:04:43pm |
Honestly, the last thing we need is to recycle candidates from this year in 2012. It's time to move onward and upward.
McCain, Guiliani, Thompson, Romney, etc. you had your chance. You blew it, big time. Have a great rest of your lives.
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:05:32pm |
re: #156 realwest
I do know his name - we communicated several times as we both had served in Vietnam and we both suffer -- well he died of - metastasizing prostate cancer.
But I will not give out his name. No disrespect intended.
I'm sorry. I wondered what had happened to him.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:06:22pm |
re: #148 shanec99
They didn't like him at first, but he finally won them over. I think it's because he had a Marine that was almost dead from alcohol poisoning at LeJeaune and he called 911 after doing everything he knew to do. He ended up getting some kind of USMC commendation and the guys ended up liking him.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:06:22pm |
re: #126 MarineGrunt
Do you Know his name, I have the rosters of all unit that were at Khe Sanh
God bless him, those guys had a hell of a time and our world is better off because of what they did.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:07:40pm |
November 11 is also a special day for the Marines. On November 11, 1954, President Eisenhower dedicated the USMC War Memorial (the Iwo Jima Memorial) in Arlington National Cemetery.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:08:06pm |
re: #154 shanec99
God bless you Devil Dog, I will never forget my tours at French Creek, in Desert Shield/Desert Storm, Camp Hansen or Camp Fuji. Good times.
I remember Camp Hanson, was there in '67 before shipping to Nam
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gmsc Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:08:08pm |
re: #163 gmsc
November
1110 is also a special day for the Marines. On November1110, 1954, President Eisenhower dedicated the USMC War Memorial (the Iwo Jima Memorial) in Arlington National Cemetery.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:08:18pm |
re: #159 Pvt Bin Jammin
They didn't like him at first, but he finally won them over. I think it's because he had a Marine that was almost dead from alcohol poisoning at LeJeaune and he called 911 after doing everything he knew to do. He ended up getting some kind of USMC commendation and the guys ended up liking him.
Was this about 6 months ago?... I seem to remember a conversation on LGF about this. The young man did well.
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:08:49pm |
re: #151 laZardo
No, none of us can get everthing we want, but we will not allow ourselves to be treated with anything less than respect.
Not fucking ever.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:09:17pm |
re: #126 MarineGrunt
Do you Know his name, I have the rosters of all unit that were at Khe Sanh
/cross check for Silver Stars awarded and that should focus the search
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:09:32pm |
re: #164 MarineGrunt
I remember Camp Hanson, was there in '67 before shipping to Nam
Man I could tell you stories about Kin Ville that would make your gray hairs black.
Those were some good times.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:10:34pm |
re: #156 realwest
There is a good chance I know him as well from the Khe Sanh Veterans Association.
I'll have to check the membership roster of our deceased members.
Thanks.
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:10:48pm |
re: #167 realwest
Then you also have my best wishes as well.
Also...I haven't been able to check today but I was wondering if you got my post about the e-mail from a few threads back. I'm not so much concerned for if Obama does get his way as what would happen should he fail in his Presidency.
/and yes, there are some fairly grim possibilities.
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:11:32pm |
re: #153 logboy
Uh, y'all didn't "slip" your braking hand and fall on your head, now didja, cause where I come from,
Air Assault or Airborne are part of the Combat Arms.
Just infantry with a sometimes different mode of travel!
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:13:22pm |
re: #171 laZardo
Grim in that he is an enabler of enemy combatants. You make a good point. I never thought of the potential danger he may pose. I've tended to localize his possible impact.
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:13:32pm |
So, all you old soldiers got room in this discussion? Realwest, how're you feeling? Karridine - long time no see. How's things?
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:13:41pm |
re: #171 laZardo
Then you also have my best wishes as well.
Also...I haven't been able to check today but I was wondering if you got my post about the e-mail from a few threads back. I'm not so much concerned for if Obama does get his way as what would happen should he fail in his Presidency.
/and yes, there are some fairly grim possibilities.
We on Active Duty swear to follow the orders of those apppointed over us... well the American people appointed him over us, so we will salute and follow his orders.
It is the essence of our democracy.
If you can't follow the orders... then its time to leave active duty... there is no ambiguity.
Let us pray that God grants him wisdom.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:14:13pm |
re: #166 shanec99
I talked about it around six months ago. He did do well. I'm so proud. He got out but his wife is still in the Navy.
One left to go, my great-nephew, who is transferring to this":
[Link: www.marsoc.usmc.mil...]
Bless his heart.
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:14:48pm |
re: #176 shanec99
We on Active Duty swear to follow the orders of those apppointed over us... well the American people appointed him over us, so we will salute and follow his orders.
It is the essence of our democracy.
If you can't follow the orders... then its time to leave active duty... there is no ambiguity.
Let us pray that God grants him wisdom.
You on active duty swear first and foremost to uphold the Constitution. Remember that.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:15:31pm |
re: #170 MarineGrunt
There is a good chance I know him as well from the Khe Sanh Veterans Association.
I'll have to check the membership roster of our deceased members.
Thanks.
USMC1968 was a Silver Star recipient for actions in the hills surrounding Khe Sanh. You can do an LGF search, but that's all we go out of him.
/again, how many Silver Stars were awarded at Khe Sanh?
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Idle Drifter Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:15:33pm |
6432 Intermediate Fixed Wing Aircraft Electrician 1997-2002
Sure I spent more time look for electron leaks and listening to pilots complain about the light dimer not working in the O-F-F position but everytime I hear a bird overhead I'm praying the emergency generator is working. The AV-8B Harrier real name is the North Carolina Lawn Dart for a reason. Some of the best years of my life!
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laZardo Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:16:16pm |
Gotta head back to class and try to calm myself down.
Cheers.
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:16:23pm |
re: #175 galloping granny
Well galloping granny I'm feeling good - I always feel good in the company of fellow veterans, but I am beat and my meds have kicked in so I'm going to sleep now!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
Good night, all.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:16:29pm |
re: #177 Pvt Bin Jammin
I talked about it around six months ago. He did do well. I'm so proud. He got out but his wife is still in the Navy.
One left to go, my great-nephew, who is transferring to this":
[Link: www.marsoc.usmc.mil...]
Bless his heart.
He is going Special Ops... darn... God Bless Him.
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:17:06pm |
re: #182 realwest
Well galloping granny I'm feeling good - I always feel good in the company of fellow veterans, but I am beat and my meds have kicked in so I'm going to sleep now!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!Good night, all.
Night real. Hang in there.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:17:32pm |
re: #169 shanec99
Ahhh "The Ville" just outside the gate, had some goood times there
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:17:34pm |
re: #173 gmsc
OMG thanks for sharing that...watching now.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:18:15pm |
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:19:23pm |
Whew, the battle of P. J. O'Rourke still rages on.
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itellu3times Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:20:01pm |
Add on the Hannity show for Obama coins ...
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:20:19pm |
re: #172 realwest
Uh, y'all didn't "slip" your braking hand and fall on your head, now didja, cause where I come from,
Air Assault or Airborne are part of the Combat Arms.
Just infantry with a sometimes different mode of travel!
I hear you. Most of the time we were in vehicles or dismounted anyway. Although I will never ever forget the feeling of helplessness as I laid there strapped to a litter being loaded in the Blackhawk as some $#% Iranians shot at us with AKs.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:20:30pm |
Speaking of old soldiers. Here's probably one of the better speeches ever done by one.
/the last paragraph is the most memorable.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:20:45pm |
re: #178 galloping granny
You on active duty swear first and foremost to uphold the Constitution. Remember that.
I let the Supreme Court and the various lawyers decide what is Constitutional... I follow the orders until someone tells me they are not lawful. I am not a constitutional lawyer, just an Old Sailor who does his best in any circumstance.
The American people have made thier decision and I am ready to live with it. If I find I can't live with it, then its time to go to PSD and hold my hand our for my DD 214.
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:21:50pm |
re: #189 itellu3times
Add on the Hannity show for Obama coins ...
We were getting those here before the "election" was even held.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:22:13pm |
re: #183 shanec99
He is so adorable and young. His grandad, my bro, was counterintelligence. The youngster told me "I guess I'm going to be hanging out with the recon guys. I hope they like me." He is extremely intelligent. I'm sure that's why they want him. He has a specialized MOS. I will be praying hard for that dear young man. He is very precious to me.
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realwest Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:22:19pm |
re: #178 galloping granny
"You on active duty swear first and foremost to uphold the Constitution, from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Most of us have never forgotten nor broken that oath.
NOW good night all y'all!
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Viking6 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:22:23pm |
re: #119 MarineGrunt
Happy Birthday from the Older Service. I had a friend that was with the Field Force Recon out of Khe Shan, R Guy. I have lost track of him over the last 30 years but I think he may still be in Colorado. He was beaucoup dinky dau.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:23:53pm |
re: #148 shanec99
Without our Corpsman, there would a lot more than 58000 names on that Wall in DC.
This grunt is gratefully and thankful to HM3 Miller, without his expertise on the 689 ridge line, this post would not have been written.
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:23:54pm |
re: #192 shanec99
I let the Supreme Court and the various lawyers decide what is Constitutional... I follow the orders until someone tells me they are not lawful. I am not a constitutional lawyer, just an Old Sailor who does his best in any circumstance.
The American people have made thier decision and I am ready to live with it. If I find I can't live with it, then its time to go to PSD and hold my hand our for my DD 214.
That is at least a partial copout you know. Sure, in some circumstances you might not know what is right according to the Constitution, but having sworn to uphold the darned thing lo these many years and being a citizen of this nation, you should have a basic understanding yourself.
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Idle Drifter Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:25:05pm |
re: #173 gmsc
The Great Lakes have taken their fare share of sailors, standing on their shores I often forget they're fresh water lakes.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:25:10pm |
re: #189 itellu3times
Add on the Hannity show for Obama coins ...
They're good in the Hope and Change vending machines.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:27:20pm |
re: #185 MarineGrunt
Ahhh "The Ville" just outside the gate, had some goood times there
Man. Those were some good times... on mainland Japan there were some good times too... I remember one night in the Roppongi district when some Sailors from the "Connie" said the Marines from Fuji were weak. The fight that inevitably erupted destroyed the club. Good lord we were young, but we had some good times.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:28:04pm |
Obama becoming the president is like my ex-girlfriend becoming president.
/Scary thought.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:28:25pm |
re: #99 funky chicken
How about when primary season starts, Rudy and Palin announce they are going to run as Giuliani/Palin. Rudy for POTUS, Palin for VP?
I like that a whole lot better than Palin/Jindal. Jindal is a fantastic governor for LA, because folks down there don't mind his rather extreme religious stances. He'd even be a good US Senator from LA, if he's interested. But I would be shocked if he could pull off a national electoral victory---of course I'm shocked somebody who sat in "Rev Goddamned America Wright's" church just got elected.
The media double standard would sink the conservative though.
I could live with that. Rudy and anybody would be fine by me.
I just want a fiscal conservative, hawk, who will nominate judges who won't legislate from the bench and won't push religion in schools. Find me that republican and let's get them elected.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:28:27pm |
re: #199 Idle Drifter
The Great Lakes have taken their fare share of sailors, standing on their shores I often forget they're fresh water lakes.
Growing up here in NW Wisconsin, I've heard that song more times than I can remember. My grandfather used to work on the ships out of Duluth/Superior.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:28:41pm |
re: #194 Pvt Bin Jammin
He is so adorable and young. His grandad, my bro, was counterintelligence. The youngster told me "I guess I'm going to be hanging out with the recon guys. I hope they like me." He is extremely intelligent. I'm sure that's why they want him. He has a specialized MOS. I will be praying hard for that dear young man. He is very precious to me.
Takes a Special kind of guy to do the time with Force Recon... God Bless him.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:31:11pm |
re: #198 galloping granny
Yes I do, and I doubt he will say or suggest we do something that is obviously illegal. The nuanced things I leave to the lawyers and courts. No I wont follow blatantly illegal orders... no one can order me to murder or rape.
But there are some things that even lawyers will have a hard time with, and in those situations I give the benefit of the doubt to the chain of command.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:31:52pm |
re: #206 Sharmuta
Morning Sharmuta. How's things today. :)
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:31:56pm |
/but then they have the time to do that
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:33:15pm |
re: #179 Killian Bundy
USMC1968 was a Silver Star recipient for actions in the hills surrounding Khe Sanh. You can do an LGF search, but that's all we go out of him.
/again, how many Silver Stars were awarded at Khe Sanh?
About 55 Silver Stars, two awarded twice.
4 Silver Star and Bronze Star
12 Posthumous
110 Bronze Stars
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:33:38pm |
re: #202 Gus 802
Obama becoming the president is like my ex-girlfriend becoming president.
/Scary thought.
/five by five reality
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:34:37pm |
re: #207 shanec99
Yes I do, and I doubt he will say or suggest we do something that is obviously illegal. The nuanced things I leave to the lawyers and courts. No I wont follow blatantly illegal orders... no one can order me to murder or rape.
But there are some things that even lawyers will have a hard time with, and in those situations I give the benefit of the doubt to the chain of command.
Of course. I'm rather afraid the bunch of you are going to be having to make some tough decisions though. This is on "CIC" that does not have the best interests of our nation at heart and wants nothing more than to gut our military.
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MarineGrunt Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:35:00pm |
re: #201 shanec99
Marines and Sailors fighting, Good Lord man don't let that get out. "grin"
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:35:00pm |
re: #205 shanec99
Thanks for your concern. Luckily, I know a regular recon guy and he's going to look for my great-nephew when he arrives on base. The part that freaks me out is that he was missing his girl and that was a way to get back to a certain base...she dumped him. I am in prayer mode but he is one smart cookie and making rank fast. I've already lost one, WILL NOT lose another.
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:36:34pm |
re: #211 Killian Bundy
Pretty much. Almost like re-hiring Paul Volker as Obama and his sinister "Beltway" ad hoc cabinet wants to.
He's back!
/Allegedly.
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Idle Drifter Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:40:00pm |
re: #204 logboy
Growing up here in NW Wisconsin, I've heard that song more times than I can remember. My grandfather used to work on the ships out of Duluth/Superior.
I grew up in River Rouge, MI fishing the Detroit River and Lake Erie after the Spring thaw when the Silver (White) Bass and Walleye run.
And I've hunted white tail along the Escanaba River near Rock, MI. The music most played on the radio was "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" and "Fred Bear" in November. Nights included beer, Red Wing's Hockey and Euchre.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:40:44pm |
'Nite, lizards. I love you all.
Happy Birthday Marines!
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Karridine Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:41:56pm |
re: #195 realwest
"You on active duty swear first and foremost to uphold the Constitution, from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Most of us have never forgotten nor broken that oath.NOW good night all y'all!
Granny, Real, that forms the crux of my internal soul-struggle today: Does Obama represent an embodiment of What We Fought?
/I'll give him some grace period, but it looks worse every day...
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:42:13pm |
re: #217 Idle Drifter
I grew up in River Rouge, MI fishing the Detroit River and Lake Erie after the Spring thaw when the Silver (White) Bass and Walleye run.
And I've hunted white tail along the Escanaba River near Rock, MI. The music most played on the radio was "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" and "Fred Bear" in November. Nights included beer, Red Wing's Hockey and Euchre.
Ever go smelting? They taste goood!
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:44:38pm |
re: #219 Karridine
Granny, Real, that forms the crux of my internal soul-struggle today: Does Obama represent an embodiment of What We Fought?
/I'll give him some grace period, but it looks worse every day...
Only if you fought for the Red Star, Karridine. Only if you fought for the principles of Uncle Ho.
His "grace period" with me ended long before it began. I recognize Marxist rhetoric when I hear it. Better dead than red in my book.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:45:15pm |
re: #212 Sharmuta
Doing good. Start a job search this morning as soon as I get off of work. See if there's anything better out there. I need to see more freaking daylight in my life.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:45:24pm |
re: #220 logboy
We even get smelts in Los Angeles. They're good!
/We are in the real world...but sometimes I have used them for bait.
Nite
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Killian Bundy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:47:14pm |
re: #210 MarineGrunt
About 55 Silver Stars, two awarded twice.
4 Silver Star and Bronze Star
12 Posthumous110 Bronze Stars
Well then that doesn't really help much. No one wants medals, but that was unspeakably more than one hell of a military battle, having to accept the politics was a shame
/not to be macabre, but his widow commented his last comment and was grateful, can't remember whether the nic was blue or not
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Gus Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:47:29pm |
re: #221 galloping granny
Chi Minh.
The battle of "the road."
A friend of late France, and the Democrats: Kerry, Fonda, et al.
/Don't bomb the manholes.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:47:48pm |
re: #221 galloping grannyOkay, Granny, so:
His "grace period" with me ended long before it began. I recognize Marxist rhetoric when I hear it. Better dead than red in my book.
say, for discussion's sake, that I agree with you wholeheartedly...
Now how do I reconcile that with my Oath of Allegiance? "...all enemies, foreign and domestic..."
/I wrote of this, here, Constitutional Question
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:49:02pm |
re: #129 Gus 802
Did do debrief for three months for Misty FAC's at Phan Rang.
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Idle Drifter Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:49:43pm |
re: #220 logboy
Ever go smelting? They taste goood!
The only brief smelting I ever did is at Easter Dinner after Dad got into the Czernina and us kids would stay outside be it rain, snow or shine for a couple hours.
No I never did any smelting nor ice fishing.
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Outrider Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:50:15pm |
In honor of upcoming Veterans Day, I offer this.
Airborne Pathfinder! Huah!
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:52:15pm |
re: #226 Karridine
Okay, Granny, so:
say, for discussion's sake, that I agree with you wholeheartedly...
Now how do I reconcile that with my Oath of Allegiance? "...all enemies, foreign and domestic..."
/I wrote of this, here, Constitutional Question
I've had to take pretty much that same oath more than a half dozen times in my lifetime, though the one I've always had to take reads "uphold" rather than "defend." Luckily, I am now retired. Were I not, I am quite sure that I would have to resign effective January 20.
There will be no going along to get along from me.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:54:19pm |
re: #233 Sharmuta
Thanks I could use a little bit of luck. :)
Was redoing my resume and realized that I have over 4 and a half years of Supervisory experience. That should get me a position with any of the other companies out there in no time flat.
/not to mention other experience I have under my belt as well.
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:55:09pm |
re: #229 Karridine
Do we all have to become Conservative Community Organizers? Did Saul Alinski write a book for us to follow?
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galloping granny Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:55:12pm |
re: #226 Karridine
Okay, Granny, so:
say, for discussion's sake, that I agree with you wholeheartedly...
Now how do I reconcile that with my Oath of Allegiance? "...all enemies, foreign and domestic..."
/I wrote of this, here, Constitutional Question
Karridine, I just read what you wrote and I must disagree. Domestic enemies that manage to get themselves elected are still enemies. Virtually all dictators have come to power "by the will of the people." I won't wash my hands or my conscience with "but he was elected so now it is all OK." No matter how you dress it up, a dead skunk still smells like one and a sow's ear will never be a silk purse.
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logboy Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:57:06pm |
re: #231 Outrider
In honor of upcoming Veterans Day, I offer this.
Airborne Pathfinder! Huah!
I always wanted to go to Pathfinder. The AASLT Instructors told us the most strenuous thing about the school is walking from your car to the classroom with a cup of coffee. The stuff you have to know and remember is killer though, over 50% don't make it.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:58:32pm |
Found what I was looking for and a bonus besides. A true twofer. The hymn I was looking for is playing in the background.
/can't remember the title.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:58:35pm |
re: #235 BlueCanuck
You will indeed look very attractive to employers then.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 9, 2008 11:59:42pm |
re: #236 tappin52
Instead of Rules for Radicals, perhaps we could use a Rules for Reptiles.
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MarineGrunt Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:00:33am |
re: #224 Killian Bundy
Our Newsletter will be here in about a week or so it should have his name listed there.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:01:15am |
re: #236 tappin52
Do we all have to become Conservative Community Organizers? Did Saul Alinski write a book for us to follow?
What is it they say about two can play that game? We lost for two big reasons:
1. The media
2. McCain was too much of a Gentleman.
We can't do much about the second now, but we CAN put the MSM out of business. Literally. The NYT stock is tanking and we have more than a few people who play around or make their living in the stock market. Time to help it along.
Murdoch has issued orders at Fox that Obama is to be the man of the hour, immune from criticism. He can feel our displeasure too. Nothing says anyone HAS to watch Fox anything these days.
And we can resist. I, for one, will not cooperate with a single edict issued by the Obama "government." On January 20 I am going to raise the Gadsen flag in place of our American flag and drape it with black crepe. It will remain that way until my nation is restored.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:01:43am |
re: #47 Pvt Bin Jammin
Los Angeles area Marines, go to Conrad's Restaurant in Pasadena, Lake & Walnut. There's a bar. We don't get there until 8:30 but if you want to get it going early, go ahead.
i'd come by (Army) but i've got a neighborhood readiness meeting to attend.
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:02:55am |
People Who Can't Tolerate Disagreement
Do you know someone who cannot tolerate dissension or disagreement? It can be in the context of political or philosophical views, more day-to-day concerns -- or both. The inability to tolerate dissension is a confession that one's viewpoint was formed emotionally, not rationally or objectively. If a viewpoint was formed rationally, there is no threat posed by an opposing opinion or question. The inner reaction to such an opposing opinion will be something like: "He's mistaken. I can prove why, if it's worth my time and if he's interested. No threat, though." But if a viewpoint is emotionally held, it's another story. The inner reaction to dissension goes something like this: "I won't be proven wrong. I can't be proven wrong. I will not be questioned!"
Holding firm to a point-of-view is not proof that you cannot tolerate dissension. Holding firm simply means you're convinced you're right, you know why, and you see no reason to revisit old points of persuasion just because somebody is serving them up to you.
There are many ways someone can show they will not tolerate dissension. One is to cry. Another is to shout. Another is to calmly and cooly intimidate by getting personal. Another is to change the subject. Still another is to advocate shutting down freedom of speech in some context. There are many contexts, degrees and methods for displaying intolerance of dissent. They all spring from the same source: Emotional insecurity. The emotional insecurity, in turn, arises from a sense that one is probably wrong, and cannot accept it; or that one feels right, but cannot say why.
The least reasonable people are the ones who cannot tolerate dissent or disagreement.
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Outrider Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:03:01am |
re: #239 logboy
I always wanted to go to Pathfinder. The AASLT Instructors told us the most strenuous thing about the school is walking from your car to the classroom with a cup of coffee. The stuff you have to know and remember is killer though, over 50% don't make it.
I'm not sure about the most strenuous part. We did a lot of humping to get to the proposed LZ/DZ. I also don't recall a whole lot of class room training, most of the training being in the field and practical work.
But, then was pre-GPS days. An our radios were PRC-77s. So, I guess a lot has changed apparently.
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stevieray Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:03:24am |
re: #236 tappin52
Do we all have to become Conservative Community Organizers? Did Saul Alinski write a book for us to follow?
Heh. Maybe we should push for Alinsky's book to be taught in the schools. It only works on those who don't know about it.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:05:03am |
re: #248 stevieray
Heh. Maybe we should push for Alinsky's book to be taught in the schools. It only works on those who don't know about it.
First we would have to push for reading to be taught in the schools. Alinsky's book requires more than a third grade vocabulary.
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Karridine Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:05:37am |
re: #237 galloping granny
Respectfully, Granny, I did NOT absolve him or me with "He's elected (he wasn't, he was chosen by whoever and the MSM led We, the People to THINK he was being 'elected') THEREFORE he's all okee-dokee now..."
I'm only saying, "What can an intelligent, motivated but law-abiding citizen DO, to protect the Constitution?"
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:09:02am |
re: #250 Karridine
I'm only saying, "What can an intelligent, motivated but law-abiding citizen DO, to protect the Constitution?"
I guess goint to the ACLU is out? Is there a right wing group that fights court cases for constitional law?
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logboy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:09:11am |
re: #247 Outrider
I'm not sure about the most strenuous part. We did a lot of humping to get to the proposed LZ/DZ. I also don't recall a whole lot of class room training, most of the training being in the field and practical work.
But, then was pre-GPS days. An our radios were PRC-77s. So, I guess a lot has changed apparently.
Yeah things have changed a bit. Now the PRC-88s are considered ancient history.
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Karridine Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:09:30am |
re: #250 Karridine
Okay, Granny, saw your comment upthread addressing this. Thanks... :D
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FamHistoryGuy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:09:42am |
re: #234 Gus 802
I may need to clarify that I was enlisted maintenance and not a pilot. Bomb loader, armament systems repair, arm/dearm, maint debrief, gun-shop and maintenance control.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:10:01am |
re: #250 Karridine
Respectfully, Granny, I did NOT absolve him or me with "He's elected (he wasn't, he was chosen by whoever and the MSM led We, the People to THINK he was being 'elected') THEREFORE he's all okee-dokee now..."
I'm only saying, "What can an intelligent, motivated but law-abiding citizen DO, to protect the Constitution?"
Sorry if I misinterpreted what you wrote Karridine - and please do bear in mind I was giving my personal position on your question. What can a law-abiding citizen do? Probably nothing - at least not while remaining "law abiding." You are lucky in that you live outside the country .
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Opilio Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:10:28am |
re: #224 Killian Bundy
Well then that doesn't really help much. No one wants medals, but that was unspeakably more than one hell of a military battle, having to accept the politics was a shame
/not to be macabre, but his widow commented his last comment and was grateful, can't remember whether the nic was blue or not
Three of the comments usmc1968's widow posted back in October. No blue nic.
Comment 1
Comment 2
Comment 3
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:11:27am |
re: #253 Karridine
Okay, Granny, saw your comment upthread addressing this. Thanks... :D
Karridine, I suspect that I might very well end up either in jail or dead before this is over.
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:12:21am |
This is funny . . . I hope:
Get Your War On: New World Order
In the wake of the Obama win, Accounts Receivable gives Accounts Payable a little heads up about exactly what kind of "change" Obama was really talking about all those months on the trail. Payable is NOT going to like this. Not one bit. But he needs to know. And Accounts Receivable is the man to tell him. Accounts Receivable is a really good friend, you know?
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tappin52 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:13:19am |
Read the links in #34 and #82 folks. This is going to be a bumpy four years.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:13:35am |
re: #92 logboy
Who here was a POG or a Grunt. Be honest!
11H/B10 Harmony Church 7Jan-14Apr83
19D also, as well as a variety of others, to include 91B.
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Karridine Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:13:48am |
re: #255 galloping granny
It just gives me a buffer, but does not address the focal issue, namely:
IF Hussein Obama IS an example of That-Which-Has-Been-America's-Enemy, then what can an individual DO (about it)?
/No answer required, Granny... I continue to adhere to the principles enunciated by Baha'u'llah, and defend the Constitution to the best of my abilities, here and now...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:15:12am |
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:15:59am |
re: #259 tappin52
Read the links in #34 and #82 folks. This is going to be a bumpy four years.
And that is just the teeniest tip of the ice berg. Guess I'll run up to BJs tomorrow and buy some more canned food.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:18:42am |
re: #250 Karridine
We remain vigilant, Karridine. We keep pressure on our Representatives and Senators in Congress, and hold them and the media accountable.
I also think now is when various conservative groups begin forming PACs to deal with the 2010 and 2012 elections, and perhaps any other special needs that may arise such as legislation to lobby for or against, etc. Some of the republicans I work with are already discussing a PAC.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:18:51am |
Guess I'm going back to bed folks - or at least back to book. Have to get up in a few hours and teach math and WWI. Ya'll have a good one.
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Adina in Judea Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:19:41am |
re: #244 galloping granny
Murdoch has issued orders at Fox that Obama is to be the man of the hour, immune from criticism. He can feel our displeasure too. Nothing says anyone HAS to watch Fox anything these days.
I'm finished with Fox, too.
The entire MSM will try to cover themselves for what they've done.
At this point, I'll be avoiding seeing Obambi's face or hearing his voice online or on TV. I've had more than a lifetime's worth of both already (and not by choice.)
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:20:21am |
re: #123 laZardo
I'm going to come out and say this... I do fear for you vets sometimes. Especially how things could turn out in a few years, you guys could as well be the subject of more revile than respect.
that could almost be interesting... %-)
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:20:23am |
re: #264 Sharmuta
Forgive me for asking, what's a PAC?
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:20:50am |
re: #265 galloping granny
Night granny, rest well.
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Outrider Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:22:31am |
re: #260 redc1c4
11H/B10 Harmony Church 7Jan-14Apr83
19D also, as well as a variety of others, to include 91B.
Primary retirement mos was 98Z5M / O5H4PK3
secondary mos was 11B4PF7 also had an alternate mos of 19DPF7
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:22:56am |
Here's some cause for optimism!
New Zealand's Helen Clark talked a good game, much like 0bama, and all she actually delivered was failure. So, something interesting happened this week:
Helen Clark's Labour Party loses to National Party in New Zealand vote
New Zealand prime minister, Helen Clark, is to stand down as Labour leader after conceding defeat in the country's general election.
The victorious National Party, led by John Key, took 59 seats in the vote and its partner ACT 5.
United Future leader Peter Dunne will join them, making a total of 65.
Labour has 43 seats, the Greens eight, and they are joined by Progressive Party leader Jim Anderton for a total of 52.
Mr Key said: "New Zealanders have voted for prosperity, for a brighter, more ambitious future."
Ms Clark said: "In politics we all experience the highs and the lows ... tonight is a night for the winners to savour, but we won't be going away."
She was first elected to parliament in 1981 and was made Labour leader in 1993.
"My job as leader of the Labour Party is complete," she said.
"I will be standing down and I will be expecting Labour colleagues to elect a new leader before Christmas, and I will give that new leader, whoever it is, the total loyalty I have enjoyed from every member of parliament for a very long time."
Despite the win by the centre-right Nationals, few major policy shifts are expected. Both the main parties promised tax cuts and extra spending to help cushion an economy already in recession and expected to suffer further fallout from the global credit crisis.
There are about 3 million registered voters, out of a population of about 4.3 million. It is compulsory to be enrolled to vote, but voting itself is not compulsory.Over the last three elections, voter turnout has averaged 80.9 per cent.
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:23:25am |
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Outrider Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:23:26am |
re: #267 redc1c4
that could almost be interesting... %-)
I'd say it could be, seeing as most vets are better able to take care of themselves than your average lefty.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:26:25am |
Blue- more on PACs
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:29:09am |
re: #142 logboy
Yup! We made fun of them all the time. Oh sure, they do their best to look battle hard while walking to the DFAC. But it was clear by the look on their faces when we rolled in the gate fresh off a covoy who was doing the dirty work.
same same in peacetime... i had someone in the PX at Club Bob one August complain that i smelled bad, not to my face mind you, just loud enough to hear as she bitched to her friend.
another time at Ft Hood, some remf in my hospital unit was complaining that there wasn't enough water pressure for her to take a shower that afternoon, and that she'd only had one shower all day.
i offered to walk her over to the wash racks, where the line dogs were washing 2 weeks of texas crud off the AFV's, so she could make her complaint in person.
unfortunately, someone stopped us. %-)
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:29:21am |
re: #276 Sharmuta
Thanks, seems I am getting a real lesson on American politics here.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:29:39am |
Ruh-roh! Don't tell me that we're suddenly avatar-less again!
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:29:50am |
re: #278 BlueCanuck
Thanks, seems I am getting a real lesson on American politics here.
We're sorry.
;)
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:32:18am |
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:32:21am |
re: #151 laZardo
Never again, you may hope.
But none of us can ever get everything they want...
how about "not on my watch!"
will that w*rk for you?
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:32:55am |
re: #280 gmsc
I guess it will come in handy one way or another. At least I am understanding what you folks are talking about half the time. :)
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:35:50am |
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MarineGrunt Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:39:56am |
re: #224 Killian Bundy
Found some of the posts relating to USMC1968, safe to say he died about Oct 12-13 will have to the rest of the posts tomorrow when my eyes are fully open
3:30 am here.
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Mel Lono Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:41:52am |
hmm, seems I may have pissed off the powers that be/are.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:43:27am |
re: #289 Mel Lono
And which powers are those?
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:45:22am |
re: #244 galloping granny
And we can resist. I, for one, will not cooperate with a single edict issued by the Obama "government." On January 20 I am going to raise the Gadsen flag in place of our American flag and drape it with black crepe. It will remain that way until my nation is restored.
i've dropped my American flag off at the cleaners to be cleaned up for storage. all that flies from my house now is the POW/MIA flag, and so it will remain until my country is free again.
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Mel Lono Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:47:17am |
jumps and links limited. Had some comments this morning re: the subject that cannot be named.
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Karridine Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:47:31am |
re: #272 gmscWhat if the new, reason-based, small-government party were called New Democrats?
/THAT would sock it to the Dems!
//ACORN bringing in people who Vote Democrat... just the WRONG Democrats, who are the RIGHT Democrats...
Or how about "Right Democrats!", with a Palin/Steele ticket?
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tappin52 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:47:42am |
Hey Red, are you stirring up any fruitcup yet?
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:48:34am |
re: #294 Karridine
What if the new, reason-based, small-government party were called New Democrats?
/THAT would sock it to the Dems!
//ACORN bringing in people who Vote Democrat... just the WRONG Democrats, who are the RIGHT Democrats...
Or how about "Right Democrats!", with a Palin/Steele ticket?
Interesting idea . . . and it sure would get Dem voters wondering!
/I like "classical Democrats"
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NomadOfNorad Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:49:13am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:50:04am |
re: #293 Mel Lono
Are you trying to link to a certain site?
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:50:12am |
How about some nice lesbian music?
/who doesn't like lesbians?
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:50:52am |
re: #300 Killian Bundy
How about some nice lesbian music?
/who doesn't like lesbians?
Great! Danny Thomas had a great voice!
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:51:48am |
re: #300 Killian Bundy
How about some nice lesbian music?
/who doesn't like lesbians?
re: #302 gmsc
Great! Danny Thomas had a great voice!
Oh, I just clicked the link. I thought you meant Lebanese . . .
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:51:58am |
re: #292 redc1c4
The Gadsden Flag? Wonder if sales of that went up since election day...
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:52:39am |
re: #294 Karridine
I would stay away from the name New Democrats. Probably get confused with the socialist party up here called the New Deomcratic Party.
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tappin52 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:52:50am |
re: #304 gmsc
Oh, I just clicked the link. I thought you meant Lebanese . . .
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:53:22am |
Why are we forming a new party? Why not fight for the one we already have?
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Mel Lono Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:53:48am |
When i click new comments, I go to the top. not a big deal, just something new tonight, but isnt it all that way these days?
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tappin52 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:54:57am |
re: #310 Mel Lono
That has happened to me on occasion too.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:55:04am |
re: #274 Outrider
I'd say it could be, seeing as most vets are better able to take care of themselves than your average lefty.
pretty much my point... %-)
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:55:07am |
re: #308 tappin52
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I wonder: Did M*A*S*H's Klinger qualified as both?
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RTLM Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:55:28am |
...and some well recommended midnight reading:
Mind Controlled Sex Slaves And The CIA
/for all you latent Paulians
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:57:12am |
re: #295 tappin52
Hey Red, are you stirring up any fruitcup yet?
/cue innocent look
moi?
/white smoke
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:58:27am |
re: #300 Killian Bundy
How about some nice lesbian music?
/who doesn't like lesbians?
i'm a lesbian...
(trapped in a man's body. %-)
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:58:35am |
re: #317 redc1c4
/cue innocent look
moi?/white smoke
Ah nuts, time to start working on untainted fixings again.
/mutter mutter. . . .. .
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NomadOfNorad Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:58:46am |
Well, I'm heading to bed... weet dreams, fellow lizards...
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:59:40am |
re: #319 BlueCanuck
Don't you dare! We could all use happy fruitcups along with regular fruitcups.
For at least the next four years.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:59:46am |
re: #309 Sharmuta
Why are we forming a new party? Why not
fight fortake back the one we already have?
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:01:20am |
re: #320 NomadOfNorad
Night Nomad, weet dreams.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:02:15am |
re: #321 Sharmuta
Don't you dare! We could all use happy fruitcups along with regular fruitcups.
For at least the next four years.
Oy vey, now what am I going to do with the Super Secret Fridge™ in the mean time?
/HEY who put all this beer in here?
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tappin52 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:03:13am |
Aw, nuts. I dribbled fruitcup juice on my pajamas.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:03:28am |
re: #310 Mel Lono
When i click new comments, I go to the top. not a big deal, just something new tonight, but isnt it all that way these days?
it's a Khinspiricy!
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:04:26am |
re: #325 BlueCanuck
Oy vey, now what am I going to do with the Super Secret Fridge™ in the mean time?
/HEY who put all this beer in here?
don't look at me...
(i'm ugly. %-)
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:08:13am |
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:08:25am |
another song for the birthday folks: Hadji Girl
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:09:34am |
re: #328 redc1c4
don't look at me...
(i'm ugly. %-)
Explains why my monitor keeps breaking around you.
/white smoke.
//I would accuse you of the beer but you would try to look innocent.
///and I won't try to insult both our intelligences. ;)
///lots of white smoke
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Mel Lono Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:09:37am |
Back with the same limitations, but what the hey, it's a brave new world!
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tappin52 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:13:09am |
re: #335 Mel Lono
I think I remember reading that Charles knows what that problem is, but since I can't speak computer I can't help you out.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:15:47am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:15:54am |
re: #335 Mel Lono
Did you refresh the page? And what site are you trying to link to?
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:17:05am |
re: #334 BlueCanuck
Explains why my monitor keeps breaking around you.
/white smoke.
//I would accuse you of the beer but you would try to look innocent.
rule #1: never flee... that's what guilty people do.
rule#2: drink all the beer and claim you were simply recycling... can i get a lift to the center?///and I won't try to insult both our intelligences. ;)
just yours? ;-)
///lots of white smoke
using available cover. %-)
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:17:53am |
re: #325 BlueCanuck
Oy vey, now what am I going to do with the Super Secret Fridge™ in the mean time?
/HEY who put all this beer in here?
as long as it isn't MOOSEHEAD which is canuk for skanky beer
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Karridine Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:20:05am |
re: #301 Sharmuta
GMSC, Sharm... great ideas! Classical Liberals (throw the moonbatz a curve or three!)
/as long as we absolutely hafta have a system of 'parts' or 'parties', then have a new party that defines itself as Radical Centrist, and out-populars the populists! Mweh! :D
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:20:28am |
/4:23 of classic, crank it!
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:26:04am |
re: #340 yochanan
as long as it isn't MOOSEHEAD which is canuk for skanky beer
Molsen Ale then?
one of the best 2 weeks i ever spent in the Army was at Ft Cartoon, because the Class VI was running an apparently endless sale on this stuff @ $3/sixer... adn i had a fridge in my BEQ room. %-)
"1/8th Infantry...7/8ths bullshit."
latrine graffitti there
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wahabicorridor Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:26:55am |
Good morning lizards. Got email overnight from our adopted soldier at Camp Bucca, Iraq (detention facility). They are on lockdown - seems a jihadi or two has escaped.
That's all he could tell me at the moment.
sigh
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:30:52am |
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:31:40am |
re: #344 wahabicorridor
Good morning lizards. Got email overnight from our adopted soldier at Camp Bucca, Iraq (detention facility). They are on lockdown - seems a jihadi or two has escaped.
That's all he could tell me at the moment.
sigh
shoot to kill...
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:34:40am |
King Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1!
(Video At Link)
The co-chair of Barack Obama's Transition Team, Valerie Jarrett, appeared on Meet the Press this weekend and used, shall we say, an interesting word to described what she thinks Barack Obama will be doing in January when he's officially sworn into office. She told Tom Brokaw that Obama will be ready to "rule" on day one. It's a word that reflects the worst fears that people have for Obama the "arrogant," the "messiah," that imagines he's here to "rule" instead of govern.
Jarret told Brokaw that "given the daunting challenges that we face, it's important that president elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one."
Someone needs to get to Jarrett and inform her that American politicians are not Kings and do not "rule" from office. But if this is the attitude of Obama's transition team, what does The One himself imagine he is about to unleash? Could the fears that Obama thinks he is being anointed America's King be far off with this sort of talk flying about?
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Edouard Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:36:34am |
re: #342 Killian Bundy
/4:23 of classic, crank it!
What a great song & album. Classic is right.
Here's one more from that album b4 I hit the hay.
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wahabicorridor Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:36:49am |
re: #346 redc1c4
shoot to kill...
Yeah - but if you look at a map - that's one helluva a big desert they've got there.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:40:10am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:41:19am |
re: #341 Karridine
Karr- I've been trying to get people to fight for this party- to get it back to what it's supposed to be. We have to try that first. Leaving to form a third party is not viable at this point.
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:41:30am |
As long we're talking Genesis, how about Jesus He Loves Me?
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:46:09am |
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astronmr20 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:47:55am |
re: #347 gmsc
King Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1!
(Video At Link)
NOT a good sign, that his most trusted assistants seem to have no idea how our system of government works.
If people thought the Supreme Court had a field day with Bush, they are going to have to smack this schoolboy down a lot more.
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Karridine Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:48:27am |
re: #351 Sharmuta
Karr- I've been trying to get people to fight for this party- to get it back to what it's supposed to be. We have to try that first. Leaving to form a third party is not viable at this point.
I hear you... and agree, though getting the 'Republican' party cleaned up and re-oriented will be a Herculean task, at best, Sharmy!
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:51:05am |
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:52:14am |
re: #352 gmsc
As long we're talking Genesis, how about Jesus He Loves Me?
how about we all just take a #2 pencil and puncture our eardrums, so we don't have to hear this instead?
/w*rks for me %-)
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:52:25am |
re: #356 Karridine
I hear you... and agree, though getting the 'Republican' party cleaned up and re-oriented will be a Herculean task, at best, Sharmy!
there is so much horse shit in the stable there got to be a pony somewere
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:53:05am |
re: #355 astronmr20
NOT a good sign, that his most trusted assistants seem to have no idea how our system of government works.
If people thought the Supreme Court had a field day with Bush, they are going to have to smack this schoolboy down a lot more.
not after he appoints a few judges to it that see things his way...
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gmsc Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:53:41am |
re: #354 Killian Bundy
/is that Mike Rutheford?
I still remember the first time I ever heard the song "Mama".
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:53:51am |
re: #360 redc1c4
pray for the continued heath of the SCOTUS
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:54:49am |
re: #356 Karridine
I hear you... and agree, though getting the 'Republican' party cleaned up and re-oriented will be a Herculean task, at best, Sharmy!
It's one that's been put off too long. It can't wait any longer, and leaving now without even trying to clean up is not the solution at this point.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:55:37am |
Okay, I suspect we all have commonn ground/re: #357 redc1c4
arguably one of the lamest songs ever... from one of the lamest groups ever.
As opposed to your lost in history headache inducing heavy metal crap?
/there's no future in head banging
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:58:32am |
re: #363 Sharmuta
It's one that's been put off too long. It can't wait any longer, and leaving now without even trying to clean up is not the solution at this point.
Let's hope it isn't just hope it isn't a herculean task.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:59:16am |
re: #361 gmsc
I still remember the first time I ever heard the song "Mama".
/Wembly, don't tell me Britain will be overrun anytime soon
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:59:19am |
re: #364 Killian Bundy
Careful, there may be a lot of head banging in the next couple of years.
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Edouard Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:59:47am |
re: #357 redc1c4
arguably one of the lamest songs ever... from one of the lamest groups ever.
From someone who ran loose on the streets of New York for a golden week back then as a young adult, and now remembers this cornucopia of musical invention (Lamb Lies Down on Broadway) as a kind of soundtrack to that -- you could not be more wrong
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littleoldlady Mon, Nov 10, 2008 1:59:59am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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Salamantis Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:00:00am |
Insanity is doing the same old so con thing...over and over...and expecting a different result.
The gwneral electorate conceives of us as sexists, racists, dominionists, homophobes, and ties all of those together with a single bow and labels the package "bigot."
No way we're gonna win jack shit like that. Not even dogcatcher. The congressional Repubs we have left either distance themselves from that discriminatory crap, or else preside over whitebread exclusive
areas that I would kneejerk think I would not wanna be in, even though I'm actually LIVING IN one of those supposedly Deliverance-type localities, surrounded by thousands of other homes crammed with minority and multiracial suburbanites - many of whom - for instance my next door neighbors on both sides - are friends.
That's right. My own Floride Panhandle county, for the first time in living memory, went for the Dems, and Obama, even though our black population, though matter-of-factly visible, is kinda laid back and casual.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:00:36am |
re: #365 BlueCanuck
PIMF, Let's just hope it isn't a herculean task.
/these nights are starting to get to me. :(
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:01:50am |
re: #369 littleoldlady
Good morning littleoldlady. Thank you for your timely fruitcup.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:02:19am |
re: #362 yochanan
pray for the continued heath of the SCOTUS
there's a few that were evidently just holding on in hope a lieberal would win, so they could be replaced with another fool, for our own good.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:05:28am |
re: #370 Salamantis
Did you see the last turd dropped on that thread?
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:07:36am |
re: #379 Sharmuta
Which thread and who was the charming soul?
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:07:58am |
Blue- it already is, but what choice is there? Going third party- surrendering without a fight- means we keep democrats in power for years, decades.
It's take the party back or bust.
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littleoldlady Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:09:14am |
Good morning, ALL!
/lazy monday
//plus not in the mood for WalMart greeter job ;-)
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akak Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:11:46am |
re: #383 littleoldlady
Good morning, ALL!
/lazy monday
//plus not in the mood for WalMart greeter job ;-)
Good Morning! Don't worry there must be some sort of benefits under Obama for that ailment.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:11:59am |
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Karridine Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:14:19am |
re: #363 Sharmuta
It's one that's been put off too long. It can't wait any longer, and leaving now without even trying to clean up is not the solution at this point.
I read that LINKIE a few hours ago, by PJO'Rorke, who listed out more than a dozen SERIOUS ISSUES that need to be addressed...
If partisan politics were the way to unite people, then I'd commit to divide us into parts to unite us...
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littleoldlady Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:14:19am |
re: #386 akak
Good Morning! Don't worry there must be some sort of benefits under Obama for that ailment.
Da! It's called Universal Work Stoppage.
/we are all farmers now...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:14:33am |
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:14:38am |
Ugh, that definitely was a turd in the punch bowl. I wonder which banned poster that sock puppet belonged to.
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Salamantis Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:16:17am |
re: #370 Salamantis
Insanity is doing the same old so con thing...over and over...and expecting a different result.
The gwneral electorate conceives of us as sexists, racists, dominionists, homophobes, and ties all of those together with a single bow and labels the package "bigot."
No way we're gonna win jack shit like that. Not even dogcatcher. The congressional Repubs we have left either distance themselves from that discriminatory crap, or else preside over whitebread exclusive
areas that I would kneejerk think I would not wanna be in, even though I'm actually LIVING IN one of those supposedly Deliverance-type localities, but surrounded by thousands of other homes crammed with minority and multiracial suburbanites - many of whom - for instance my next door neighbors on both sides - are friends.That's right. My own Floride Panhandle county, for the first time in living memory, went for the Dems, and Obama, even though our black population, though matter-of-factly visible, is kinda laid back and casual. I mean, my home county actually went to the left of the Log Cabin Republicans, who went for McCain, and had their bid for civil unions shafted, 70-30, by those selfsame black and hispanic voters who they stood beside when they voted Obama. And I never saw it coming. Nefver even had a nightmare about it.
Dammit, we were the ones that put Dubya over the top in the popular vote in 2004. That should give you a clue as to how deep and wide the socialist rot has spread here, and nationwide. But we might have our gay equivalent of the PUMAS headed our way. If we don't fuck it up by proving to these gays, like we've proven to many blacks and women before them, that they're persona non grata.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:16:57am |
re: #368 Edouard
From someone who ran loose on the streets of New York for a golden week back then as a young adult, and now remembers this cornucopia of musical invention (Lamb Lies Down on Broadway) as a kind of soundtrack to that -- you could not be more wrong
they have medication for that...
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:17:22am |
re: #382 Sharmuta
Okay back to this point. You are right about fighting for the party. I remember when our conservative party was split after the Mulroney years. Until the two partys re-unified the Liberals were just walking into power every election. It was sickening to see. But the Progressive Conservative party was so far left by that time it was too late to save it or purge it. I hope you Americans will look north and take our recent history to heart of what happens when the party is divided.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:18:01am |
re: #391 BlueCanuck
Ugh, that definitely was a turd in the punch bowl. I wonder which banned poster that sock puppet belonged to.
Where?
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:21:38am |
another ballad for Killian to enjoy...
make sure you turn up the speakers... the song is very nuanced.
%-)
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:25:21am |
I wonder if Lordbama could heal my nightly heartburn...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:26:47am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:28:51am |
re: #394 BlueCanuck
If Dear Leader is as bad as we all believe he'll be, but we go off the deep end with a heavy so-con candidate, we're screwed. It should be easy enough to find a fiscal conservative with enough appeal to not scare the shit out of voters that we can win in 2012, but all this Jindal talk is scaring me. We just need a fisc-con hawk... Dear God, by Smurfhut for a fisc-con hawk!
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:31:24am |
re: #402 Sharmuta
If Dear Leader is as bad as we all believe he'll be, but we go off the deep end with a heavy so-con candidate, we're screwed. It should be easy enough to find a fiscal conservative with enough appeal to not scare the shit out of voters that we can win in 2012, but all this Jindal talk is scaring me. We just need a fisc-con hawk... Dear God, by Smurfhut for a fisc-con hawk!
Palin/Steele or Palin/Hunter?
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rightside Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:31:51am |
Nobama day? I should rather work that day then to be a supplicant to the dear leader. Harumph!
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wahabicorridor Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:32:25am |
re: #402 Sharmuta
If Dear Leader is as bad as we all believe he'll be, but we go off the deep end with a heavy so-con candidate, we're screwed. It should be easy enough to find a fiscal conservative with enough appeal to not scare the shit out of voters that we can win in 2012, but all this Jindal talk is scaring me. We just need a fisc-con hawk... Dear God, by Smurfhut for a fisc-con hawk!
I'm thinking Haley Barbour, Gov. Mississippi
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:34:49am |
re: #406 wahabicorridor
Have you searched his position on ID?
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wahabicorridor Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:35:33am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:36:26am |
re: #410 wahabicorridor
No, I haven't. Is there a problem?
Yeah- candidates who want to push religion into schools might be a problem for the electorate.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:36:49am |
re: #402 Sharmuta
Well I am rooting for you folks. Time to get it done. Just have to make sure that all the back stabbing gits get flushed like the turds they are.
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tappin52 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:37:54am |
re: #406 wahabicorridor
I'm thinking Haley Barbour, Gov. Mississippi
It has always bothered me that the coverage of Katrina was so focused on NOLA, with the incompetent job done by Nagin and Blanco. Right next door, Mississippi performed so much better and did not get nearly the attention they deserved.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:38:36am |
re: #394 BlueCanuck
Okay back to this point. You are right about fighting for the party. I remember when our conservative party was split after the Mulroney years. Until the two partys re-unified the Liberals were just walking into power every election. It was sickening to see. But the Progressive Conservative party was so far left by that time it was too late to save it or purge it. I hope you Americans will look north and take our recent history to heart of what happens when the party is divided.
we (Republicans) need to get out of people's business and focus on the country's business. let the Dems be the one known for getting into people's stuff. we need to concentrate on small govt, low taxes, free trade, individual liberties, and strong defense.
jmho...
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:40:39am |
re: #401 Killian Bundy
/yeah, that's pathetic, they've got the tats, but they fail to bang their heads, as required
you're so cute when you're trying to be tough...
/pats kb on his head
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:41:21am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:43:31am |
re: #415 redc1c4
you're so cute when you're trying to be tough...
/pats kb on his head
/lick yourself, and do it with alacrity
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:44:21am |
re: #417 MandyManners
At the bottom with the multiple ding downs.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:45:28am |
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Tigger2005 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:46:58am |
re: #34 DesertSage
I'm already getting sick of this guy.
WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
You have a stronger stomach than me. I was sick of him months ago.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:47:20am |
re: #415 redc1c4
you're so cute when you're trying to be tough...
/pats kb on his head
/oh, and feel free to linky more white supremacist music
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:50:50am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:51:25am |
re: #425 MandyManners
Don't you love it when the troll have manners?
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wahabicorridor Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:52:00am |
re: #413 tappin52
It has always bothered me that the coverage of Katrina was so focused on NOLA, with the incompetent job done by Nagin and Blanco. Right next door, Mississippi performed so much better and did not get nearly the attention they deserved.
hmmm. the site just went all hinky on me - the reply/quote disappeared, etc. Had to reboot.
Anyhoo, the reason Mississippi didn't get any attention is because things went fairly well - nothing to blame Bush for.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:52:04am |
Sure was scary watching that video of the guy being arrested for wearing a McCain/Palin t-shirt at the Obama victory celebration. The crowd just went orgasmic over it.
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rightside Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:54:46am |
re: #427 wahabicorridor
That's because the people of Ms., (my mother in laws home was completely destroyed) didn't stick their hands out. Although there were problems, they mostly took care of them on their own.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:55:33am |
re: #424 Killian Bundy
/oh, and feel free to linky more white supremacist music
Okay, maybe it isn't it's more like whatever.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:56:41am |
re: #424 Killian Bundy
/oh, and feel free to linky more white supremacist music
that would be a first for me, especially since the lead singer of GFI is a personal friend, former Marine, and Hispanic.
but don't let *that* stop ya!
/pats kb on the head again...
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:57:20am |
re: #431 Killian Bundy
Okay, maybe it isn't it's more like whatever.
Screaming obscenities while wearing a wife-beater? Heck, I could do that.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:58:32am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:58:34am |
re: #432 redc1c4
that would be a first for me, especially since the lead singer of GFI is a personal friend, former Marine, and Hispanic.
but don't let *that* stop ya!
/pats kb on the head again...
/hope you both have day jobs
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:58:58am |
re: #431 Killian Bundy
Okay, maybe it isn't it's more like whatever.
well yeah it could...
they could be you. %-)
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:00:23am |
re: #437 Killian Bundy
/hope you both have day jobs
funny you should say that: we met back in the day when we both w*rked at the same repo agency...
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:00:51am |
WHY do people have to live in flood plains? there have always been huricanes this isn't a new thing. last spring there was major flooding along the upper mississippi why build houses were it floods it isn't like you miss a big thing like the mississippi river. tax money should not be spent to rebuild in flood plains.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:01:13am |
re: #434 MandyManners
Screaming obscenities while wearing a wife-beater? Heck, I could do that.
and undoubtedly look better doing it... %-)
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wahabicorridor Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:01:21am |
Could these people be any more inane?
Please, Mr. Messiah, may we have an organic farm on the White House Lawn?
As The White House Organic Farm project lays out in its plan, the farm should involve school children and Americans with disabilities to help grow the farm’s produce. The farm should also be built with compost from the food waste of the three branches of government. Its produce, in addition to supplying the White House itself, should be delivered by bicycle to local food pantries and schools.
Inauguration day is January 20th, 2009, and it will no doubt be an historic gathering. It is also a good time to begin breaking ground for spring planting. It is my hope that the invitations that go out for the great celebration of this new president will include a note at the bottom indicating “BYOS: Bring Your Own Shovel.”
We're all gonna need shovels, but not for that.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:01:49am |
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:02:13am |
re: #434 MandyManners
Screaming obscenities while wearing a wife-beater? Heck, I could do that.
i can get you a GFI tank top, if you want one... %-)
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:02:58am |
re: #443 wahabicorridor
Could these people be any more inane?
Please, Mr. Messiah, may we have an organic farm on the White House Lawn?
We're all gonna need shovels, but not for that.
Pitchforks and torches.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:03:23am |
re: #441 yochanan
WHY do people have to live in flood plains? there have always been huricanes this isn't a new thing. last spring there was major flooding along the upper mississippi why build houses were it floods it isn't like you miss a big thing like the mississippi river. tax money should not be spent to rebuild in flood plains.
How is it any different than living in Tornado Alley, or in the gulf with hurricanes, or in California with the earthquakes? Or Hawaii with the volcanoes?
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:03:26am |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:05:05am |
re: #438 redc1c4
well yeah it could...
they could be you. %-)
You can't seriously stand by that lame speed metal atonal crap, can you?
/good luck with that
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:06:40am |
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:07:07am |
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:07:34am |
Are they gonna' keep Barney locked up when CBBHO shows up today?
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:07:56am |
re: #435 Sharmuta
I could always link a Courtney Love song...
I think I need a penecilin shot just hearing her name...
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:08:06am |
re: #449 MandyManners
What does GFI stand for?
absolutely nothing... but they do have a song that includes lyrics like "gee if i only had a future, gee if i only had a plan..."
on a side bar, suboptimal came up with redone lyrics for California uber alles" with Juggy as the subject the other day and. GFI may be covering it. if so, it may be appropriate for LGF.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:10:08am |
re: #461 redc1c4
absolutely nothing... but they do have a song that includes lyrics like "gee if i only had a future, gee if i only had a plan..."
on a side bar, suboptimal came up with redone lyrics for California uber alles" with Juggy as the subject the other day and. GFI may be covering it. if so, it may be appropriate for LGF.
I have no idea what you just said.
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:10:33am |
re: #452 Killian Bundy
You can't seriously stand by that lame
speedmetal atonal crap, can you?/good luck with that
even my 6 element likes it, and goes to the shows. just goes to show that people who like classical, jazz and opera can also appreciate good music when they're finally exposed to it.
that, and the Doll Hut is a lousy place to record anyway...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:13:28am |
/not even the original and it doesn't grate on the ears
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:14:15am |
re: #462 MandyManners
I have no idea what you just said.
suboptimal is a lizard, and the other night (few weeks back) he rewrote the Dead Kennedy's classic "California uber Alles" to reflect the current situation with Juggy.
i forwarded the lyrics to Nick Razor, and he said he was thinking of having GFI perform them...
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:15:56am |
re: #466 Killian Bundy
/not even the original and it doesn't grate on the ears
then why listen?
(whites off earth now! %-)
/white smoke
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:17:46am |
re: #463 redc1c4
even my 6 element likes it, and goes to the shows. just goes to show that people who like classical, jazz and opera can also appreciate good music when they're finally exposed to it.
/I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about rage music
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fat bastard vegetarian Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:22:03am |
re: #473 MandyManners
Honey, you don't sleep enough.
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fat bastard vegetarian Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:25:19am |
re: #473 MandyManners
Heh.
"Take a Jumbo
Across the water..."
Always wondered what they said there. Looked it up.
The internetz rock!
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Tigger2005 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:26:06am |
Morning, Lizards, how goes the morning intelligence briefing and strategy planning session? Are we doing a counterattack or are we building a rocketship to the Moon?
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fat bastard vegetarian Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:26:45am |
Cool. Supertramp, Cowboy Junkies in the last ten comments.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:27:07am |
/not atonal, Rock & Roll Hall of fame, about as much as I'll rage
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:27:24am |
re: #472 Killian Bundy
/I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about rage music
so it is beyond your ability to grasp... there's no shame in being limited, as your life constantly proves.
we love you despite your many and manifest shortcomings...
drop me a line and i'll get you a t shirt and an autographed CD & DVD.
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wahabicorridor Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:27:24am |
driveby
I've been noticing this for a few days and keep forgetting to mention it.
Mika Brezhinsky is now wearing her hair like
SARAH PALIN!
bwahahaha!
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redc1c4 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:29:28am |
re: #478 laZardo
Back from college.
What'd I miss?
GFI, Cowboy Junkies, and a bunch of lousy popular music. %-)
/and the odd bit of white smoke
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:30:02am |
Good Morning LGF.
Nov.9-10 is the anniversary of Kristallnacht which marked the beginning, in Hitler's 1938 Germany, of the wholesale destruction of Jewish synagogues and businesses, the confiscation of their property, and the eventual implementation of the "final solution" - the Holocaust.
While it might be tempting for some to use German language to describe or characterize the policies of President Elect Obama, it would behoove us to exercise restraint in doing so. Not only are such parallels minimal and extremely strained but they tend to diminish the memory of the Holocaust.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:30:22am |
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:30:40am |
re: #468 redc1c4
suboptimal is a lizard, and the other night (few weeks back) he rewrote the Dead Kennedy's classic "California uber Alles" to reflect the current situation with Juggy.
i forwarded the lyrics to Nick Razor, and he said he was thinking of having GFI perform them...
Dead Kennedys? Ayers' favorite?
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:30:47am |
re: #481 redc1c4
so it is beyond your ability to grasp...
/t-shirts and DVDs don't make it suck any less
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:31:09am |
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fat bastard vegetarian Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:31:34am |
The Trinity Session...
Cowboy Junkies recorded this whole album in a church.
Thanks Killian...hadn't heard that in a while.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:32:01am |
re: #476 Tigger2005
Morning, Lizards, how goes the morning intelligence briefing and strategy planning session? Are we doing a counterattack or are we building a rocketship to the Moon?
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to boycott the msm's traditional outlets of television and print. Internet is acceptable means of news gathering. This includes fox news.
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:33:40am |
re: #484 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
Nov.9-10 is the anniversary of Kristallnacht which marked the beginning, in Hitler's 1938 Germany, of the wholesale destruction of Jewish synagogues and businesses, the confiscation of their property, and the eventual implementation of the "final solution" - the Holocaust.
While it might be tempting for some to use German language to describe or characterize the policies of President Elect Obama, it would behoove us to exercise restraint in doing so. Not only are such parallels minimal and extremely strained but they tend to diminish the memory of the Holocaust.
I 100% AGREEMENT
If you want to compare obama idology he is more like the canadian NDP or the english labour party. social democrats or democratic socialist depending on how far the move left. calling him a commie or fascist just proves the person doing the posting doesn't really know what real fascism or communism was all about.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:34:29am |
Arguing about musical taste is pointless, for now.
/U.S. markets open in three hours and I should nap
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:34:29am |
re: #492 laZardo
That's what the internet is for. Print one off online.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:36:03am |
re: #492 laZardo
I am sure that there are better quality games available on the internet. :)
/found one in Facebook too.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:36:24am |
I'm not thrilled with winter. I need some fat on my body.
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laZardo Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:37:06am |
re: #494 Sharmuta
Actually, they're running a contest right now where you can send in finished puzzles for a chance to win P500 in a weekly draw or P5,000 in a monthly draw. Translates to about $10 and $100, respectively.
You know us college kids...can't resist the chance to win that cash. q;
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fat bastard vegetarian Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:37:24am |
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littleoldlady Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:38:38am |
re: #496 MandyManners
I'm not thrilled with winter. I need some fat on my body.
Oh! Oh! I've got some for you!
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:38:52am |
well now i am getting into personal and family things
one son's wife is converting to be jewish and having a baby.
another son just finish basic training in the I.D.F.
and i am having a art show in new york starting in december.
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laZardo Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:39:17am |
re: #495 BlueCanuck
I am sure that there are better quality games available on the internet. :)
/found one in Facebook too.
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:39:40am |
re: #496 MandyManners
I'm not thrilled with winter. I need some fat on my body.
You can have some of mine.
{MandyManners}
Good morning, Lizards.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:40:03am |
Wow. The Titans are doing well. Good thing 'cause UTK sucks this year.
They should boot Fulmer NOW. Screw at the end of the season.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:41:21am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:42:00am |
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:42:08am |
re: #492 laZardo
But I like playing newspaper Sudoku! D:
Here's something to ease the withdrawal.
It's excellent software and best of all, it's free.
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:43:23am |
it was neat-o seeing the c.d. of my d.i.l.'s coming attraction
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:44:21am |
Tomorrow's mission, should we choose to accept it, is to convince others to join the msm boycott. This will continue to include fox news.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:44:37am |
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:45:19am |
re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom
You can have some of mine.
{MandyManners}
Good morning, Lizards.
Too bad we can't scan it and send it as an attachment.
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:45:43am |
i can deal with fox at least they give some of our sides view points unlike the msm which gives none
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:46:43am |
Winter weather, yeah. On the other hand, we have Thanksgiving and Christmas.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:46:44am |
re: #515 Sharmuta
Tomorrow's mission, should we choose to accept it, is to convince others to join the msm boycott. This will continue to include fox news.
Gonna' hafta' decline boycotting Fox right now. I can't articulate the reason but, it's in my brain somewhere.
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:47:06am |
you can clearly see the babies head, legs and arms her doc says he can see his little 'thingie' but who knows.
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:47:41am |
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laZardo Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:47:44am |
re: #515 Sharmuta
But really, were it not for the Philippine MSM I probably would be under that proverbial rock. [;
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:48:06am |
re: #521 godfrey
Winter weather, yeah. On the other hand, we have Thanksgiving and Christmas.
But, then there's January, a long month with no real break in the monotony of the gray, chilled skies.
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:48:12am |
What is the point of watching cable news? It's a managed show, a selective variety act, a political vaudeville.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:48:49am |
re: #520 yochanan
Someone upthread said word was fox was to play nice with Dear Leader.
And I don't give a rat's ass- they're all on the block. Fuck them- they fucked us! I'm not supporting any network, paper, magazine, anything that didn't do their fucking job. And fox- ripping off LGF and zombie and can't even give credit- fuck 'em.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:49:31am |
Go ahead and support fox guys and continue to support people who fucked us up the ass just as much as the other networks.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:50:26am |
re: #530 godfrey
That is why God invented whisky.
But, it doesn't really warm. It just expands the capillaries, thereby inviting more blood to the surface.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:50:35am |
re: #527 MandyManners
Ugh, and don't forget about Feburrrary. Good thing that it's a short month.
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littleoldlady Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:51:08am |
Well, it's already an attachment!
/that's the problem...
//got chocolate?
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:51:24am |
g-d invented Scotland and the Scots invented whiskey got to have something to go with the cold damp rocks.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:51:40am |
re: #533 MandyManners
Drink enough though; you don't care.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:51:42am |
re: #529 Sharmuta
Someone upthread said word was fox was to play nice with Dear Leader.
And I don't give a rat's ass- they're all on the block. Fuck them- they fucked us! I'm not supporting any network, paper, magazine, anything that didn't do their fucking job. And fox- ripping off LGF and zombie and can't even give credit- fuck 'em.
It's the only channel that will give a voice to the opposition. It's no where near perfect but, it's the only one.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:52:00am |
re: #532 godfrey
Mandy! What have you done with Sharmuta?
Nothing. She seems to be doing well on her own.
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:52:19am |
From what little I've seen, I like Brit Hume, and that's about it.
Email with links is a good way to communicate.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:52:44am |
re: #534 BlueCanuck
Ugh, and don't forget about Feburrrary. Good thing that it's a short month.
Do we get 28 or 29 days next year?
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:52:44am |
Does anyone else think that it might be a little overly-optimistic to proclaim that the election of BHO signals the arrival of Afro-Americans into the "Promised Land"?
An inspirational event for all minorities? For sure.
But living proof of the end of racism in America? Get real.
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:52:49am |
re: #533 MandyManners
That is entirely too factual for Monday morning. Where are your manners, woman?
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littleoldlady Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:53:04am |
re: #531 Sharmuta
Go ahead and support fox guys and continue to support people who fucked us up the ass just as much as the other networks.
Sheesh! Okay, okay...
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:53:32am |
re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Drink enough though; you don't care.
Gotta' keep my head about me for the next four years. I plan on going after CBBHO with all I have.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:53:34am |
re: #538 MandyManners
It's the only channel that will give a voice to the opposition. It's no where near perfect but, it's the only one.
Not anymore- they're supposed to play nice.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:53:48am |
re: #490 Sharmuta
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to boycott the msm's traditional outlets of television and print. Internet is acceptable means of news gathering. This includes fox news.
There is a television and print media? I'd forgotten. I haven't watched TV news or read the newspapers for around 4 years. Funny, that's when I started reading LGF.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:53:56am |
re: #522 MandyManners
Gonna' hafta' decline boycotting Fox right now. I can't articulate the reason but, it's in my brain somewhere.
Clinging?
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:54:56am |
re: #542 Spare O'Lake
Does anyone else think that it might be a little overly-optimistic to proclaim that the election of BHO signals the arrival of Afro-Americans into the "Promised Land"?
An inspirational event for all minorities? For sure.
But living proof of the end of racism in America? Get real.
Someone posted a Liveleak video of a young, African-American woman last night. She seems to think that his skin color will protect us from Islam.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:55:21am |
re: #543 godfrey
That is entirely too factual for Monday morning. Where are your manners, woman?
*burp*
What manners?
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:55:25am |
re: #547 Tigger2005
There is a television and print media? I'd forgotten. I haven't watched TV news or read the newspapers for around 4 years. Funny, that's when I started reading LGF.
Move on to tomorrow's mission. Recruit others. Let us make them pay.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:56:02am |
re: #546 Sharmuta
Not anymore- they're supposed to play nice.
Fine with me. They can suck in more viewers who will get to see the other side of CBBHO. Flies and honey.
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:56:26am |
re: #541 MandyManners
This 28/29 day business is unsettling. Couldn't they just shave off a few minutes from each day? We'd never notice. But nooo, it has to be this big, dramatic Look At Us We're Fudging Basic Calendrical Matter thing, complete with the melodrama of "leap" year and "gap" this and "blank forward" that.
It's enough to make one go fishing.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:56:54am |
re: #548 Spare O'Lake
Clinging?
Today's the first day I've paid attention to their morning show in a while.
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Dasher Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:57:09am |
re: #491 yochanan
calling him a commie or fascist just proves the person doing the posting doesn't really know what real fascism or communism was all about.
Give him time, he isn't in office yet. Then you will see what he is really like.
So far from I don't like what I see.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:57:28am |
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:57:45am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:58:06am |
re: #553 MandyManners
Fine with me. They can suck in more viewers who will get to see the other side of CBBHO. Flies and honey.
I don't think they'll have a fly swatter.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:58:46am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Just a drive by I'm afraid. I have been ridiculously busy at work lately. I must say that I really resent the fact that work gets in the way of my LGF. I think I will just quit my job and stop paying my bills. President Obama will take of everything and then I can spend all the time I want here.
///
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razorbacker Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:58:47am |
I see in the previous thread that some are questioning the 'mandate' of Dear Leaders Obadim. Fooey. Do not fall for the tactic of trying to use facts and/or logic in conversations with Dear Leader's supporters. Useless, and worse, a blunder.
When presented with Dear Leader Obadim's 'mandate' I urge you to do as I shall.
Paste on an uncomfortable smile and ruefully say, "I don't care about Dear Leader's mandate. His sexual inclinations should be a private matter between Dear Leader and Most Gracious First Lady. If she doesn't mind, I don't."
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yochanan Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:59:09am |
re: #556 Dasher
not likeing what i see either but i don't like social democrats like the british labour party or the NDP. but this is a large jump to stalinist death camps
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Dasher Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:59:10am |
re: #541 MandyManners
Do we get 28 or 29 days next year?
Easy way to remember: Presidential election year is also leap year = 29 days for February.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:59:11am |
re: #554 godfrey
Boils down to something like 2 seconds per day over a four year period.
/if my quickie math is right.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:59:29am |
re: #542 Spare O'Lake
Does anyone else think that it might be a little overly-optimistic to proclaim that the election of BHO signals the arrival of Afro-Americans into the "Promised Land"?
An inspirational event for all minorities? For sure.
But living proof of the end of racism in America? Get real.
I would call it living proof that racism is alive and well in America.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:59:37am |
re: #554 godfrey
This 28/29 day business is unsettling. Couldn't they just shave off a few minutes from each day? We'd never notice. But nooo, it has to be this big, dramatic Look At Us We're Fudging Basic Calendrical Matter thing, complete with the melodrama of "leap" year and "gap" this and "blank forward" that.
It's enough to make one go fishing.
But, what would happen to the Sadie Hawkins' dances?
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:00:08am |
Question: assuming Drudge is the biggest eyeball-grabber on the net, how do his stats compare to the viewer numbers for CNN? I'm guessing he's way short, but I don't know. Are there any internet "channels" so to speak that can credibly rival the major networks in terms of "viewership" numbers?
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:00:57am |
re: #559 Sharmuta
I don't think they'll have a fly swatter.
Don't swat 'em! Nurture them. Folks are gonna' start waking up to what he is and they need as much news about the opposition as they can get.
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:01:53am |
re: #565 BlueCanuck
Even better! As long as Obama doesn't start "progressively" taking more seconds than that, I'm okay with a 2 second tax.
There aren't enough hours, anyway.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:02:11am |
re: #562 Sharmuta
They're punks. Screw 'em.
I'm not gonna' toss them. I will e-mail them more than I have in the past, putting pressure on them. It's the only channel even half-way amenable to getting out the whole story.
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Dasher Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:02:21am |
The problem of course is our path around the Sun takes approximately 365.25 days, so that extra 0.25 x 4 equals an extra day every four years.
It gets worse every so often they add an extra second in too. We don't notice those much :-)
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:02:33am |
re: #569 MandyManners
Don't swat 'em! Nurture them. Folks are gonna' start waking up to what he is and they need as much news about the opposition as they can get.
I figure that will come in time once his economic policies hit their pocketbook.
I'm just going to look innocently at them and tell them, "What's the problem? That's what you voted for," then walk away.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:02:33am |
re: #564 Dasher
Easy way to remember: Presidential election year is also leap year = 29 days for February.
I did not know that. Thanks!
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:03:21am |
re: #572 Dasher
The problem of course is our path around the Sun takes approximately 365.25 days, so that extra 0.25 x 4 equals an extra day every four years.
It gets worse every so often they add an extra second in too. We don't notice those much :-)
I noticed. I'm still trying to adjust my sleep schedule.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:03:41am |
re: #574 Sharmuta
I figure that will come in time once his economic policies hit their pocketbook.
I'm just going to look innocently at them and tell them, "What's the problem? That's what you voted for," then walk away.
Why alienate them when they can be recruited?!
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:04:15am |
re: #572 Dasher
On the other hand, the melodrama of an entire day should get us more than a calendrical reminder. Where's the party? Where's the festival? It's an *ExTra DaY* etc. Shouldn't this require beer?
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Dasher Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:04:16am |
re: #568 godfrey
Question: assuming Drudge is the biggest eyeball-grabber on the net, how do his stats compare to the viewer numbers for CNN? I'm guessing he's way short, but I don't know. Are there any internet "channels" so to speak that can credibly rival the major networks in terms of "viewership" numbers?
Drudge has a short blurb on his site a while back saying that his traffic for October beat out all the major news outlets on the web.
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:04:24am |
I've got to go, but I do want to state that those who say that Obama;s "pro-choice" stance doesn't really matter (from Mark Hemingway at NRO)
From "Obama Positioned to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions" in today's WaPo:
Obama himself has signaled, for example, that he intends to reverse Bush's controversial limit on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, a decision that scientists say has restrained research into some of the most promising avenues for defeating a wide array of diseases, such as Parkinson's.
Bush's August 2001 decision pleased religious conservatives who have moral objections to the use of cells from days-old human embryos, which are destroyed in the process.
But Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) said that during Obama's final swing through her state in October, she reminded him that because the restrictions were never included in legislation, Obama "can simply reverse them by executive order." Obama, she said, "was very receptive to that." Opponents of the restrictions have already drafted an executive order he could sign.
The new president is also expected to lift a so-called global gag rule barring international family planning groups that receive U.S. aid from counseling women about the availability of abortion, even in countries where the procedure is legal, said Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, he rescinded the Reagan-era regulation, known as the Mexico City policy, but Bush reimposed it.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:04:45am |
re: #577 MandyManners
Why alienate them when they can be recruited?!
First- that's above my pay grade. Also- why work at recruiting them when Dear Leader will alienate them for us?
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laZardo Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:05:10am |
re: #569 MandyManners
Looks like I'll need a re-awakening again. I'm about ready to fall asleep on that.
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laZardo Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:06:32am |
re: #581 goddessoftheclassroom
Even if he reverses the restrictions, given recent developments on adult stem-cells (IIRC someone said they could be 'converted' to have embryonic properties), what exactly would give Big Pharma incentive to focus more on straight-embryonic stem-cell research?
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:06:49am |
Here it is.
Warning: that word is used repeatedly but, I reckon she gets a pass 'cause she's African-American.
Hat-tip: Capitalist Piglet.
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Dasher Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:07:22am |
re: #579 godfrey
On the other hand, the melodrama of an entire day should get us more than a calendrical reminder. Where's the party? Where's the festival? It's an *ExTra DaY* etc. Shouldn't this require beer?
Absolutely -- Beer should be a requirement. Maybe the extra day should be a holiday once every 4 years. As it is if you are salaried the company gets an extra day of work out of you during leap years. -- Except for the time spent at the water cooler talking about the extra day of course
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godfrey Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:07:33am |
re: #581 goddessoftheclassroom
Robert George on Obama's extremism.
If there were ever an extremist on the other side, he is it. Demonstrably.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:08:33am |
re: #583 Sharmuta
First- that's above my pay grade. Also- why work at recruiting them when Dear Leader will alienate them for us?
They'll need some place to land! To me, it'll be about rebuilding the party.
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laZardo Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:09:23am |
re: #564 Dasher
I always thought of it as Olympic Years were leap years.
/dad worked for the Philippine Olympic Committee for a number of years, it helped.
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Sharmuta Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:10:04am |
re: #589 MandyManners
I would send people to LGF before I sent them to fox. Hell- fox get's half their stories here anyways.
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MandyManners Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:11:17am |
re: #591 Sharmuta
I would send people to LGF before I sent them to fox. Hell- fox get's half their stories here anyways.
I concede that point.
However, I'm talking about folks that we don't know, folks that don't have access to the Internet. And, folks that do have it but whom we don't know.
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mollyshark Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:14:48am |
re: #500 yochanan
Lots of life changes going on at once. My son's girlfriend is starting to study for conversion. I was scared it was "for him" when it needs to be for her. They are still quite young. I asked and she said no, it is just the only thing that seems right to her. Fair enough answer. Her family will plotz, but they haven't done a damn thing for her in her life anyway. Mazel Tov to all of yours.
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Tigger2005 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:21:03am |
re: #542 Spare O'Lake
Does anyone else think that it might be a little overly-optimistic to proclaim that the election of BHO signals the arrival of Afro-Americans into the "Promised Land"?
An inspirational event for all minorities? For sure.
But living proof of the end of racism in America? Get real.
Well, I really wish they WOULD think that. I mean, as far as I'm concerned racism in America did in fact end a long time ago. Of course it will never be completely gotten rid of, but it's completely fringe now, or would be, except minorities themselves won't let it. Many of them now act increasingly and openly racist themselves, as we see with Jeremiah Wright and LaRaza, etc. But this racism is "acceptable."
Visiting Union Station the other day I saw two interracial couples (black and white) with children in the space of a few seconds. At the WalMart near my dad's I see white/Hispanic and white/black interracial couples all the time. Nobody thinks it's a big deal.
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3 wood Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:23:18am |
Good morning folks, look for the market to open up as the futures are up 1% to 2% and the Asian market was up 3% to 5% overnight.
Well I watched as much of the Sunday morning talk shows as I could stand. The hardest question I saw asked of a Democrat was "We you moved to tears Tuesday evening when the election results became official?" The only tough question I saw asked was of the lone Republican they had on to beat up on.
Get used to it folks.
Pravda is celebrating their victory and they are going to have a 4 year slobberfest. Every host is obviously competing for a position with the Obama administration, the "Lewinsky" position.
From what I could see of what little was actually asked, the Dem's want to spend another $50 billion on the auto industry with no strings attached and they have no clue what to do about a Treasury Chief.
I also see where Dinnerjacket told the President-elect where to get off. I am having flashbacks of Carter already.
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Bumr50 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:23:57am |
re: #586 MandyManners
It's gonna be harsh when she finally comes down.
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Bumr50 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:25:40am |
re: #597 3 wood
It would be easier to select a treasury chief if they hadn't made it the most powerful position in the free world a couple of weeks ago. But Hank Paulson needed money NOW!
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3 wood Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:35:28am |
re: #599 Bumr50
It would be easier to select a treasury chief if they hadn't made it the most powerful position in the free world a couple of weeks ago. But Hank Paulson needed money NOW!
The thing is, it's all done under the oversight of Congress, which they control.
If they want to help settle the markets, name a Treasury Chief so the markets know who they are going to be dealing with.
Looks like Obama will use executive orders to get around things like, well, the law.
GOP to Act as 'Check and Balance' Against Obama and Democrats
Meanwhile, Obama's transition chief said the incoming administration is reviewing President Bush's executive orders on stem cell research, oil and gas drilling, and other matters. John Podesta says the idea is that a president can use such orders to move quickly without waiting for Congress to act.
Look for an order from Obama limiting free speech on radio. He may require an overseer on the Board of Directors.
It's coming, folks.
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3 wood Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:37:10am |
AIG just got another bail out.
U.S. to Pour $40B More Into AIG Bailout
WASHINGTON — The government on Monday provided new financial assistance to troubled insurance giant American International Group, including pouring $40 billion into the company in return for partial ownership.
The action, announced jointly by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department, was taken as it became increasingly clear that an original financial lifeline thrown to AIG in September would not be sufficient to stabilize the teetering company. All told, the moves boost aid to the company to around $150 billion.
The $40 billion infusion comes from the recently enacted $700 billion financial bailout package. The government is buying preferred shares of AIG stock, giving taxpayers an ownership stake in the company.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:38:43am |
re: #600 3 wood
Look for an order from Obama limiting free speech on radio. He may require an overseer on the Board of Directors.
It's coming, folks.
Unfortunately, it is too late to do away with this extra-legal "executive order" business. A sitting president can issue an executive order without ever even revealing what it says. Nobody has the power to review it or overturn it. They've always seemed like the quick road to dictatorship to me.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:40:22am |
re: #601 3 wood
AIG just got another bail out.
The government is buying preferred shares of AIG stock, giving taxpayers an ownership stake in the company.
Now, 3wood, correct me if I am wrong here, but doesn't the government buying ownership in the nation's biggest insurance company mean that they are nationalizing the insurance business? I sure don't like that one little bit.
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3 wood Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:41:47am |
You know, it's funny how when the Republicans were in charge the US auto makers were evil, and got demonized for making SUV's and other gas guzzlers, getting hammered by left wing wackos like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Now that the Democrats are in power though, we need to bail out Detroit (and the unions).
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Bumr50 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:42:05am |
re: #600 3 wood
Depending on how that went down, that would probably be the first issue that I would very seriously consider actively protesting in my adult life. I don't have any kids yet.
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3 wood Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:42:47am |
re: #603 galloping granny
Now, 3wood, correct me if I am wrong here, but doesn't the government buying ownership in the nation's biggest insurance company mean that they are nationalizing the insurance business? I sure don't like that one little bit.
They are at least nationalizing AIG.
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Bumr50 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:44:35am |
re: #603 galloping granny
The GOP should be working on how to UNDO all of these "temporary" fixes now.
I sure wish I knew these checks and balances that got put into the bailout after it's first house-go-round.
Or is this bailout SEPARATE from that bailout?
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:47:27am |
re: #608 Bumr50
The GOP should be working on how to UNDO all of these "temporary" fixes now.
I sure wish I knew these checks and balances that got put into the bailout after it's first house-go-round.Or is this bailout SEPARATE from that bailout?
This is a separate bailout I think. As I recall AIG got a bailout several weeks before the really really BIG bailout.
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Bumr50 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 5:01:21am |
re: #609 galloping granny
You know 10 billion, 200 billion, it all starts to run together.
I have a smile on my face and I'm not sure of the emotion behind it. I'd love to write it off as sarcasm, but some how I can't.
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galloping granny Mon, Nov 10, 2008 5:04:23am |
re: #610 Bumr50
You know 10 billion, 200 billion, it all starts to run together.
I have a smile on my face and I'm not sure of the emotion behind it. I'd love to write it off as sarcasm, but some how I can't.
I can understand that feeling. And apparently all of the "social welfare" plans are going to go through too. I'm darned if I can see where the $$ is coming from. What are they going to do - sell us to China lock, stock and barrel?
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Bumr50 Mon, Nov 10, 2008 5:07:02am |
re: #611 galloping granny
Don't forget the Shari'a finance briefing the Treasury Department just underwent.
BTW I sure hope most of them were already sort of up to speed on that anyway.
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aussiemagpie Mon, Nov 10, 2008 5:10:08am |
re: #611 galloping granny
I can understand that feeling. And apparently all of the "social welfare" plans are going to go through too. I'm darned if I can see where the $$ is coming from. What are they going to do - sell us to China lock, stock and barrel?
Hi, I doubt China can afford to buy the US right now
China's export-driven economy is starting to feel the pinch of weakening U.S. and European economies, and the government has already cut key interest rates three times in less than two months in a bid to spur economic expansion.
Economic growth slowed to 9 percent in the third quarter, the lowest level in five years and a sharp decline from last year's 11.9 percent.
That is considered dangerously slow for a government that needs to create jobs for millions of new workers who enter the economy every year and to satisfy a public that has come to expect steadily rising incomes.
But then again...the US might be a bargain buy soon
Anyway
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
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summergurl Mon, Nov 10, 2008 5:32:10am |
re: #611 galloping granny
I can understand that feeling. And apparently all of the "social welfare" plans are going to go through too. I'm darned if I can see where the $$ is coming from. What are they going to do - sell us to China lock, stock and barrel?
But remember we are all in this global universe together... what are borders but imaginary lines?
//sarc
Morning Lizards!
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TaeJohnDo Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:43:52am |
A quick Monday morning story. I'd say it is OT, but can anything be OT in an open thread?
So I come home from work one day last week to find the youngest son (age 13) pacing in the kitchen with his hands clasped in a prayer position in front of his chest.
This usually indicates trouble. As in, he is in trouble. The last time he was this way involved a girl, a lunchbox and a one week bus detention.
Before I could even ask, he Blurbs "I feel really bad, Dad, I screwed up."
It seems the BB Gun required reloading. The box spilled, the BBs were every where. But it was where he was reloading the gun. Not on the deck. Not in the garage or basement, no, the boy wonder decides to reload over the sink, on the side with the garbage disposal.
He tells me, in a panic, he doesn't know what to so to get the BBs out of the disposal, so he turned it on...
He said, "BBs were flying out and hitting every where. I watched them come out and I was conflicted -- on the one hand, I thought it was really cool, but I also knew that that was a really bad idea, and I was probably dead."
So, other than they have fresh legs and can go into the basement to get drinks from the second fridge,
Why do we have kids?
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nonic Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:54:15am |
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
What Obama's Victory Means for Racial Politics
By Juan Williams
QUOTE … How does anyone waste time on racial fantasies like reparations for slavery when there is a black man who earned his way into the White House?
Make no mistake, there is still discrimination against people of color in America. And inside black America, there is still disproportionate poverty, school dropouts, criminal activity, incarceration and single motherhood. But with the example of Mr. Obama's achievements, from Harvard Law to the state legislature, U.S. Senate and the White House, the focus of discussion now is how the child of even the most oppressed of racial minorities can maximize his or her strengths and overcome negative stereotypes through achievement. END QUOTE
- - - -
Gee, what a great vision, Juan. Here are some ideas to achieve it:
---let’s invent public housing so even the most poor and oppressed families can have decent places to live at costs they can afford, or even for free
--let’s invent food stamps so no poor and oppressed parent has to tell their child he must go to bed hungry
--let’s invent welfare so that the poor and oppressed can buy more than just food, but also clothing and transportation and other needs
--let’s invent a nation-wide program and call it “Head Start” so poor and oppressed children can get the same kind of pre-school education that rich non-minorities take for granted for their kids
--let’s invent a free-to-all TV program and call it “Sesame Street” so that poor and oppressed kids can get the same kind of literacy coaching at home that rich non-minority kids get from their parents
--let’s invent a program and call it “Affirmative Action” that gives racial preference to poor and oppressed kids and young people to make sure they get into schools and colleges and professional schools, whether or not they’re prepared to succeed there
Uh, what you say, Juan? All that stuff is old ideas? Done already?
Oh. Gee, I’m at a loss then to understand what you mean…………………
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nonic Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:56:43am |
re #617 nonic
DISCLAIMER
"………… 026;……"
Don't know where that came from, it was not there by my intention.
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hedspase Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:55:33am |
re: #616 TaeJohnDo
Sounds like a great kid who had a learning experience.
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islaminaction Mon, Nov 10, 2008 2:00:27pm |
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When the Republicans were in control of the government lawmakers such as John McCain looked to reach across the aisle to the Democrats. Less than a week after Republicans got thrashed in the latest election, Democrats are wasting no time in strengthening their position and doing what they have to do to stay in power.
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