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Malone: My Own Personal Media Bubble

Opinion | Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:49:23 am PST

Michael Malone, the ABC columnist who blew the whistle on the astoundingly open and disturbing bias of the media in this last election, has a good piece on what happened after his article was featured at LGF: My Own Personal Media Bubble.

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1 obscured by clouds  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:53:41am

I'm sure he felt like a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.

2 Intrepid  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:57:11am
Then came Matt Drudge - the single most influential journalist in America.

That's quite a statement there.

3 winston06  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:57:59am

MSM is biased and corrupt

4 Nevergiveup  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:58:56am

Russia
Gorbachev calls on Obama to carry out 'perestroika' in the U.S.

[Link: en.rian.ru...]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry?

5 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 6:59:09am

re: #3 winston06

And in other news, the Sun rose in the East this morning...

[/Obviousman]

6 bosforus  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:00:46am
...to instead discuss what I saw as shocking bias by the mainstream media...

Oh come on, just because the Zero's face outnumbered McCain's at convenience stores' gas stations 4 to 1 doesn't mean there was bias.
/

7 DistantThunder  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:01:01am
The column seemed to strike a chord in readers, particularly Republicans, for whom the obvious bias of media coverage of the campaign was a growing source of anger. The first major site to pick up the story was Charles Johnson’s Little Green Footballs. Because I could track link-backs through Edgelings, I spotted the story on LGF within minutes of its appearance . . .and watched in amazement as the number of comments quickly grew into the hundreds - the fastest reader response cycle I’ve ever seen.

The passionate, formidable lizard army...

8 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:02:29am

re: #4 Nevergiveup

The worst thing is that Obama will probably take him up on it. Because AmeriKKKa is so awful and terrible. Just think, until Obama Celebrities had to hide their political leanings lest they be blacklisted. The One will change all of that.

[/More Obviousman]

9 Nevergiveup  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:03:10am

Russian officials were on Monday investigating a gas poisoning accident on a nuclear submarine due to be leased to India that killed 20 people, as local people mourned the victims.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Hey India. good luck with that Sub! How do you say Volunteer in Indian?

10 McJenny50  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:03:28am

Couldn't resist

Barrack Obama, Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey were flying on Obama’s
private plane. Obama looked at Oprah, chuckled and said, ‘You know, I
could throw a $1,000 bill out of the window right now and make somebody very happy .

Oprah shrugged her shoulders and replied, ‘I could throw ten $100 bills out of the window and make ten people very happy.

Michelle added, That being the case, I could throw one hundred $10 bills out of the window and make a hundred people very happy.’

Hearing their exchange the pilot rolled his eyes and said to his co-pilot,
Such big-shots back there. I could throw all of their a…..s out of the window
and make 56 million people very happy.’

11 PerfectSense  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:04:17am

Warning: Speaking truth to power expires on January 20th, 2009.

12 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:05:00am

re: #9 Nevergiveup

Russian officials were on Monday investigating a gas poisoning accident on a nuclear submarine due to be leased to India that killed 20 people, as local people mourned the victims.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Hey India. good luck with that Sub! How do you say Volunteer in Indian?

Now that incident was declared just the other day to be the fault of a bad fire supression system. What are they doing, making up terrorist incidents out of whole cloth?

13 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:05:41am

So has the left ruined his life yet for daring to speak his mind?

14 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:07:13am
Because I could track link-backs through Edgelings, I spotted the story on LGF within minutes of its appearance . . .and watched in amazement as the number of comments quickly grew into the hundreds - the fastest reader response cycle I’ve ever seen.

"Hundreds"? Stick around, son. That's just another day at the office in these parts.

15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:07:16am

Imagine being a real journalist trying to make it in this sea of pooh.

16 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:07:20am

oh and -- Reese withersppon and ben alflack - can F-Off.


just go to sleep sleeeeeep. The guilt-ridden holywood elites want you to sleeeeeeep. Government run health care is on the way to save you from yourself.

17 Intrepid  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:08:41am

Mike Malone has admitted what other MSM outlets and reporters have probably noticed but are loathe to confess; the balance of power in dissemination of information is shifting, and it's away from flat MSM sources.

This past election and their coverage of it has served to expose their agendas, and they'll never get back the trust they've lost.

Massive lay-offs at the NYT, LATimes, and WaPo, coupled with severe loss of earnings at CBS and NBC should serve as a huge clue-bat upside their heads.

18 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:08:54am

re: #9 Nevergiveup

Russian officials were on Monday investigating a gas poisoning accident on a nuclear submarine due to be leased to India

I didn't even know you could "lease" nuclear-powered attack subs.

What's next? "ZipSubs", "Attack submarines when you need them"?

19 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:09:55am

re: #16 FrogMarch

oh and -- Reese withersppon and ben alflack - can F-Off.


just go to sleep sleeeeeep. The guilt-ridden holywood elites want you to sleeeeeeep. Government run health care is on the way to save you from yourself.

Of course government run health care is just fine by them. People who have millions will never have to see government run health care.

20 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:10:14am

re: #11 PerfectSense

Only if you have a morbid fear of death. Otherwise, you will be free to speak your mind, just understand that you are wadding your life up and throwing it away.

21 DistantThunder  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:10:26am

I think what we will see is not that Obama is a black man, but that he has a yellow strip running right up his back. Meglomaniacs have core insecurities - and based on his voting record -it is clear he is afraid to put a stake in the ground. it's the same reason he had such a hard time writing his book.

We are about to see the Great Psychological Unraveling.....

22 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:10:58am

re: #4 Nevergiveup

Saw that yesterday and didn't know whether to laugh or cry. So I just gasped. If I remember my history right, there's more than a little blood on Gorbachev's hands. With the current interest in war crimes trials for (former) world leaders, why haven't we seen Gorby in a prisoner's cage in The Hague?

23 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:11:13am

My Obamabot encounter for the day: Asked a colleague how she spent her weekend.

Her [gushingly]: "I spent a lot of it reading about Obama. There's just so much to read about him!"

Me [obviously sarcastic]: Um, right... he's not really just a man, is he, he's more like... a god made flesh.

Her [without a trace of irony]: "Yes! Exactly!"

24 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:11:40am

re: #17 Intrepid

Mike Malone has admitted what other MSM outlets and reporters have probably noticed but are loathe to confess; the balance of power in dissemination of information is shifting, and it's away from flat MSM sources.

This past election and their coverage of it has served to expose their agendas, and they'll never get back the trust they've lost.

Massive lay-offs at the NYT, LATimes, and WaPo, coupled with severe loss of earnings at CBS and NBC should serve as a huge clue-bat upside their heads.

More to the point, NYT's New England division - which owns just about every newspaper in New England except the UnionLeader over in NH - is tanking as we speak.

25 DistantThunder  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:12:23am

re: #21 DistantThunder

I think what we will see is not that Obama is a black man, but that he has a yellow stripstripe running right up his back. Meglomaniacs have core insecurities - and based on his voting record -it is clear he is afraid to put a stake in the ground. it's the same reason he had such a hard time writing his book.

We are about to see the Great Psychological Unraveling.....

Will the media report the obvious? No.

26 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:12:36am

re: #20 Iron Fist

Only if you have a morbid fear of death.

No, not "death". Relentless hounding by the press, and maybe a surprise tax audit? Sure. Not "death". We ain't anywhere near there yet.

27 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:15:03am

But the important part was LGF was all over it first.

You rock, Charles!

28 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:15:05am

re: #24 galloping granny

NYT's New England division - which owns just about every newspaper in New England

Funny how the Left never cite that when they rant about "corporate media consolidation". They mean two things only: Fox News, and ClearChannel. Period.

29 FightingBack  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:16:17am

Too little, Too late.

30 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:16:21am
31 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:16:22am

I'm itching to test Cohen v. California and put a sticker on my car that says:


B
A
R
A
FUCK.

32 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:16:27am

re: #28 Occasional Reader

Funny how the Left never cite that when they rant about "corporate media consolidation". They mean two things only: Fox News, and ClearChannel. Period.

It is, isn't it? And yet, there are really only two companies that own virtually all of the media in the US - newspapers, magazine, TV, radio, everything.

33 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:16:32am

re: #11 PerfectSense

Warning: Speaking truth to power expires on January 20th, 2009.

That would be a good rotating title.

34 Florida Lady  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:16:50am

Wow, Charles, you're up early! Or did you just not go to sleep last night?

35 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:17:01am

Bah! The "K" in Barak would be the one in the other word.

36 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:17:02am

re: #31 MandyManners

I'm itching to test Cohen v. California and put a sticker on my car that says:


B
A
R
A
FUCK.

What is Cohen v Cali?

37 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:17:33am

re: #23 Occasional Reader

Yeah, that's the way they feel about him. In a way, you have to feel sorry for the dude. He's been so over-hyped that even if he does a bang-up job as President, he will disappoint his worshippers. He should remember what happened to the last Messiah that came around.

They crucified Him.

Of course, they don't talk about Him at Rev. Weight's Church. Jesus didn't come to damn the white man, so he has no place at their table.

Have I mentioned today that Obama scares me? Maybe we'll get lucky and find out he is a deluded fool instead of a deranged psychopath. Stranger things have happened.

38 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:17:52am

re: #31 MandyManners

I hope you don't feel too strongly attached to this car. You wouldn't mind seeing the doors keyed, the windows smashed, tires slashed, etc.

39 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:18:08am
40 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:18:26am
In the end, I only did two radio interviews: one with a Denver station, the other with Lou Dobbs. The latter was especially fun, because Dobbs was even more incensed about the subject than I was and we chatted like two old newsies sitting in a bar swapping horror stories. But after that, I realized that I risked becoming Joe the Journalist, and not wanting my life vivisected by vengeful bureaucrats and fellow reporters, I stopped all interviews.
41 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:18:27am

Wow, what a great column - and I appreciate the fact that he noted that Charles and LGF commenters picked
up on it and ran with it so quickly.
And don't kid yourselves fellow lizards, Matt Drudge may be the most influential journalist around, but it was the hundreds and hundreds of comments to Charles' thread that kicked off this Instalanche.
And btw, on Fox and Friends which Mom and I watch while we eat breakfast they mentioned the WaPo had recognized it's OWN bias FOR Obama and AGAINST McCain.
The collective MSM "sleepiness" over this election and their bias towards it may very well be an historic first. Damn, all that money Obama raised from a variety of sources - some of dubious legality - sure "paid off" for him, didn't it?

42 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:19:21am

re: #19 galloping granny

Of course government run health care is just fine by them. People who have millions will never have to see government run health care.

Yes exactly. The guilt-ridden hollywood elites want lousy "free" health care for the poor masses - so they can sleeeep better at night.

idiots.

43 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:19:22am

re: #37 Iron Fist

He's been so over-hyped that even if he does a bang-up job as President, he will disappoint his worshippers.

"Behold! A god who bleeds!"

(Everything comes back to Star Trek: TOS)

44 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:20:04am

re: #37 Iron Fist

Yeah, that's the way they feel about him. In a way, you have to feel sorry for the dude. He's been so over-hyped that even if he does a bang-up job as President, he will disappoint his worshippers. He should remember what happened to the last Messiah that came around.

They crucified Him.

Of course, they don't talk about Him at Rev. Weight's Church. Jesus didn't come to damn the white man, so he has no place at their table.

Have I mentioned today that Obama scares me? Maybe we'll get lucky and find out he is a deluded fool instead of a deranged psychopath. Stranger things have happened.

You are forgetting a few "messiahs" of more recent vintage - Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Uncle Ho. I would rather not repeat what happened the last time any of those messiahs came around. Even the non-political ones - Charles Manson, David Koresh, Jim Jones - have caused untold havoc.

Cult of personality and living god is always very bad news.

45 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:20:14am

re: #41 realwest

but it was the hundreds and hundreds of comments to Charles' thread that kicked off this Instalanche.

Maybe Charles should illustrate this thread with a Throbbing Avalanche?

46 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:20:20am

re: #26 Occasional Reader


I don't know. I'm just remembering the way the Clinton Administration started out. Surely Obama won't be worse than that.

47 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:20:24am

There was some discussion of "60 Minutes" last night on previous threads. I made myself watch the segment where the top campaign team for BHO was being interviewed. They admitted that they were completely blindsided by the Rev. Wright vids. It was the only thing that took them out of their game.

48 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:20:25am

OT: Obama to Get His First Look at the Oval Office

President-elect Barack Obama sets foot in the Oval Office for the first time Monday when he meets President George W. Bush to discuss the transition of power at a time when the country is mired in a deep economic slump and fighting two wars overseas.

Bush invited Obama for the private sit-down talk, a rite of passage between presidents and successors that extends for decades.

Oh, to be a fly on that wall...

49 jaunte  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:21:08am

re: #39 ploome hineni

Related:
Did you see Jim Treacher's comment on Carl Cameron?
(7th item down)
[Link: jimtreacher.com...]

50 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:21:21am

re: #36 galloping granny

What is Cohen v Cali?

"Fuck the Draft."

51 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:22:05am

re: #48 Kenneth

OT: Obama to Get His First Look at the Oval Office


Oh, to be a fly on that wall...

So it appears GW Bush is also in on this whole Hope Diamond heist caper.

52 Golem Akbar  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:22:13am

Yes, we can change, but not so much as to be recognized. I seem to recall once being told that being politcally correct, was just being correct. By definition. Therefore, there is no media bias, by definition. [ahh, it's so simple that way]

53 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:22:30am

re: #38 Occasional Reader

I hope you don't feel too strongly attached to this car. You wouldn't mind seeing the doors keyed, the windows smashed, tires slashed, etc.

Well, there is that.

I'm more concerned about the police.

54 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:22:41am

re: #50 MandyManners

"Fuck the Draft."

Ah so, I see. I like your bumper sticker. And agree with the sentiment.

55 nonic  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:23:12am

OT

[Link: online.wsj.com...]
What Obama's Victory Means for Racial Politics
By Juan Williams

QUOTE … How does anyone waste time on racial fantasies like reparations for slavery when there is a black man who earned his way into the White House?

Make no mistake, there is still discrimination against people of color in America. And inside black America, there is still disproportionate poverty, school dropouts, criminal activity, incarceration and single motherhood. But with the example of Mr. Obama's achievements, from Harvard Law to the state legislature, U.S. Senate and the White House, the focus of discussion now is how the child of even the most oppressed of racial minorities can maximize his or her strengths and overcome negative stereotypes through achievement. END QUOTE

- - - - - - - - - - -
Gee, what a great vision, Juan. Here are some ideas to achieve it:

---let’s invent public housing so even the most poor and oppressed families can have decent places to live at costs they can afford, or even for free

--let’s invent food stamps so no poor and oppressed parent has to tell their child he must go to bed hungry

--let’s invent welfare so that the poor and oppressed can buy more than just food, but also clothing and transportation and other needs

--let’s invent a nation-wide program and call it “Head Start” so poor and oppressed children can get the same kind of pre-school education that rich non-minorities take for granted for their kids

--let’s invent a free-to-all TV program and call it “Sesame Street” so that poor and oppressed kids can get the same kind of literacy coaching at home that rich non-minority kids get from their parents

--let’s invent a program and call it “Affirmative Action” that gives racial preference to poor and oppressed kids and young people to make sure they get into schools and colleges and professional schools, whether or not they’re prepared to succeed there

Uh, what's that you say, Juan? All that stuff is old ideas? Done already?

Oh. Gee, I’m at a loss then to understand what you mean..........

56 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:23:14am

re: #48 Kenneth

Is that where the President passes down the Secrets of the Illuminati? You don't want to eaves drop on that. They like, kill you 'n shit if they catch you...
/

57 Bumr50  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:23:20am

re: #8 Iron Fist

Does this mean that Sean Penn, Johnny Depp, and Madonna are all moving back?

58 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:23:36am

re: #50 MandyManners

Maybe Mr. Cohen's infamous T-shirt can be revived, in opposition to the Obama Compulsory Volunteer Youth Corps?

59 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:23:56am
60 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:24:45am

re: #23 Occasional Reader
Hey O.R.

My Obamabot encounter for the day: Asked a colleague how she spent her weekend.

Her [gushingly]: "I spent a lot of it reading about Obama. There's just so much to read about him!"

Me [obviously sarcastic]: Um, right... he's not really just a man, is he, he's more like... a god made flesh.

Her [without a trace of irony]: "Yes! Exactly!"

Y'all don't suppose the publishers of materials authorized by Obama put any kind of "funny stuff" on the pages of their materials do you?!?
I'd a been tempted to say "Oh, I would have thought you'd have read about him before you voted for him. Twit." but that's just me!

61 Bumr50  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:25:13am

Thre: #53 MandyManners

I wanna put one on a SmartCar;-)

62 Intrepid  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:25:16am

re: #41 realwest

But my question of the WaPo is this: You may have recognized and reported on your own bias for Obama in the election, but does that give you any sense of mea culpa? Do you regret allowing your personal political opinions become part and parcel of your "news" stories in this election?

If they don't attach a sense of "wrong" to what they've confessed, then they won't change their way of reporting in the next election. I ain't holding my breath here....

63 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:25:16am
So, what did I learn from this experience? That it is possible in this new cyber-world to be a lone writer sitting at his laptop in suburbia and write something that actually changes the course of events and, momentary at least, sets the national debate.

He should have learned that from the throbbing memo.

64 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:25:55am

re: #24 galloping granny

The New York Times Co., which owns the Times, Globe and other media outlets is basically worthless. It has a market cap of $1.34 billion, but you probably could get that much for the NYT new headquarters in Midtown. In other words, the business of the Times - journalism is nothing but red ink. The only thing of value is its real estate holdings.

The share's 1-year price target is $8.

It's current price is $9 and change. In other words, the only thing the experts see is a further price decline, which means more layoffs, consolidations, and braying from the media elites. Watch for them to demand a bailout any day now.

65 musicman  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:26:04am

OT: Obama's Civilian National Security ForceBe the first on your block to get your uniform.

66 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:26:07am

re: #9 Nevergiveup

Russian officials were on Monday investigating a gas poisoning accident on a nuclear submarine due to be leased to India that killed 20 people, as local people mourned the victims.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Hey India. good luck with that Sub! How do you say Volunteer in Indian?

Sub prime deal?

67 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:26:15am

re: #52 Golem Akbar

Back in the early '90s I read a letter to the editor or some such that bluntly stated that free speech was only for politically correct speech. The guy wasn't joking, either. He felt that that was the way it should be. Death or prison for those who disagree with him.

Some more of that tolerance bullshit the Left likes to spew.

68 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:26:36am

re: #56 Iron Fist

Is that where the President passes down the Secrets of the Illuminati? You don't want to eaves drop on that. They like, kill you 'n shit if they catch you...
/

This is where Obama meets the real "people of color" who run the White House: The Grays.

/

69 Bumr50  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:27:17am

re: #60 realwest

The folks across from us at breakfast Saturday kept going on and on (loudly and in full Obama regalia) about their "Election Parties."

If McCain would've gotten elected, I doubt any of us would be having parties.

70 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:27:18am

re: #30 ploome hineni
Yep, I wonder if John has forgotten about duty, honor and loyalty altogether - He chose Her to be VP and He chose her "advisors" yet He doesn't have the balls to come out and set the record straight.
It's not that he's losing my respect for him, he's lost it, period.

71 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:27:24am

The media bias in this election cycle was disturbing enough, but it is even more disturbing that they show no shame or remorse.

72 bosforus  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:28:18am

re: #49 jaunte

I didn't follow up on that McCain guy on Fox who trashed Palin. Who was he and has he been thoroughly destroyed by the lizards?

73 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:28:30am

re: #65 musicman

Oh my god, they have co-opted the SS symbol!

74 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:28:53am

re: #57 Bumr50

Aw, man, I hadn't thought about that. That sucks. I'd hoped we'd gotten rid of them but, no, they have to come back. Kinda like the cat in Pet Sematary.

75 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:29:07am

present

76 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:29:12am

re: #64 lawhawk

The New York Times Co., which owns the Times, Globe and other media outlets is basically worthless. It has a market cap of $1.34 billion, but you probably could get that much for the NYT new headquarters in Midtown. In other words, the business of the Times - journalism is nothing but red ink. The only thing of value is its real estate holdings.

The share's 1-year price target is $8.

It's current price is $9 and change. In other words, the only thing the experts see is a further price decline, which means more layoffs, consolidations, and braying from the media elites. Watch for them to demand a bailout any day now.

What I wish for the New York Slimes is a share value of something on the order of $0.53 per.

77 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:29:19am
78 jaunte  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:29:46am

re: #72 bosforus

I haven't been following closely enough; I thought the identity of the rumor-monger was still under wraps.

79 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:30:06am

re: #58 Occasional Reader

Maybe Mr. Cohen's infamous T-shirt can be revived, in opposition to the Obama Compulsory Volunteer Youth Corps?

That would be just peachy!

However, hasn't CBBHO backed down and is planning on a strictly volunteer force?

80 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:30:25am

re: #56 Iron Fist

I guess Bush will tell Obama where he hides the spare key and when garbage night is.

Actually, I expect Bush to be gracious and offer Obama plenty of good & valuable advice. I hope Obama is not too arrogant to understand he will be getting the most important advice of his political career.

81 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:30:28am

re: #61 Bumr50

Th

I wanna put one on a SmartCar;-)

It'd make it only smarter.

82 sawblade88  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:30:31am

re: #30 ploome hineni

I suspect Sarah can defend herself. Give it time.

This says more about the 'aides' than about her. When their identities are deduced, they will never work in a campaign again.

83 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:30:37am

re: #16 FrogMarch

oh and -- Reese withersppon and ben alflack - can F-Off.

just go to sleep sleeeeeep. The guilt-ridden holywood elites want you to sleeeeeeep. Government run health care is on the way to save you from yourself.

Reese is dead to me after Rendition. Which is a shame since Four Christmases looks funny & I do love Vince Vaughn.

84 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:30:46am

re: #73 Rancher

Oh my god, they have co-opted the SS symbol!

Um... I wouldn't take those T-shirts too seriously if I were you.

85 Golem Akbar  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:31:02am

re: #67 Iron Fist

Back in the early '90s I read a letter to the editor or some such that bluntly stated that free speech was only for politically correct speech. The guy wasn't joking, either. He felt that that was the way it should be. Death or prison for those who disagree with him.

Some more of that tolerance bullshit the Left likes to spew.

I work in the public sector, and was actually told by a high-ranking individual (cloaking her identity here) that to be politcally correct was to be correct. She was serious. I was really amazed she said that, and to this day I crack up thinking about it. Her career was just taking off.

86 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:31:30am

re: #65 musicman

OT: Obama's Civilian National Security ForceBe the first on your block to get your uniform.

Ye gods and little fishes! Doesn't anyone notice the similarity of that logo that is on most of those things to the SS lightning bolts?

Have the people of this nation completely and entirely lost their fucking minds?

87 bosforus  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:31:31am

re: #78 jaunte

I haven't been following closely enough; I thought the identity of the rumor-monger was still under wraps.

So the guy on Fox wasn't the source? A McCain crony just told him to be the messenger? I got the feeling that that guy that reported all the stuff knows who said what. A-holes.

88 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:31:51am

re: #65 musicman

OT: Obama's Civilian National Security ForceBe the first on your block to get your uniform.

That's a joke, right?

89 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:31:51am
90 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:32:16am

Well, once The Zero begins to RULE in Jan., we'll all be obamabot serfs.

91 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:32:19am

re: #68 Occasional Reader

This is where Obama meets the real "people of color" who run the White House: The Grays.

/

He's really into recycling.

92 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:32:28am

re: #72 bosforus


He or she was an anonymous coward.

93 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:32:38am

re: #73 Rancher

Oh my god, they have co-opted the SS symbol!

Exactly! And these nincompoops that are worshiping their new lord and master do not even see it!

94 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:32:54am

re: #73 Rancher

Cafe Press allows anybody to create a product. That one was designed by no fan of Obama, but somebody with a sense of humor and a knowledge of history.

95 jaunte  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:33:02am

re: #86 galloping granny

Someone is doing a bit of satire. Not good to minimize the actions of the real SS, in my opinion.

96 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:33:22am
97 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:33:36am

re: #89 buzzsawmonkey

Volunteers. And to think we all laughed at "Recreate '68."

They're in charge now.

98 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:33:36am

re: #80 Kenneth

Yeah, all joking aside it looks like Bush is going out of his way to make the transition of power smooth. It stands as a stark contrast from how the Clinton Administration relinquished power.

I guess Bush could still pardon some of the FBI's most wanted if he wanted to follow in the Clintonist Tradition.

99 musicman  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:33:52am

re: #84 Occasional Reader

Um... I wouldn't take those T-shirts too seriously if I were you.

I would take it with a grain of salt but I think back to last Tuesday and the black panther "security force" outside that polling station in Philly and it makes one ponder....

100 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:34:01am

re: #51 Occasional Reader

Explain please: Bush Hope Diamond caper?

101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:34:07am

re: #86 galloping granny

Ye
gods and little fishes! Doesn't anyone notice the similarity of that
logo that is on most of those things to the SS lightning bolts?

Have the people of this nation completely and entirely lost their fucking minds?

I think those are being made by a wingnut, not by Obama supporters. Though given their lack of, well, sense, they could be made by Obama supporters.

102 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:34:08am
But after that, I realized that I risked becoming Joe the Journalist, and not wanting my life vivisected by vengeful bureaucrats and fellow reporters, I stopped all interviews.

We welcome a "Joe the Journalist". Speak the truth and a lot of everyday Joe's will support you.

103 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:34:16am
104 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:34:25am

re: #98 Iron Fist

Yeah, all joking aside it looks like Bush is going out of his way to make the transition of power smooth. It stands as a stark contrast from how the Clinton Administration relinquished power.

Do you suppose George and Laura will steal all the furniture?

105 Nevergiveup  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:34:38am

Olmert: By returning to 1967 borders, we can develop a new Zionism (Haaretz)


15:42 Olmert: Israel risks losing international support to establish two countries (Haaretz)

Olmert: To enable peace, Israel must give up land and return to 1967 borders (Haaretz)

Gee, ain't this guy history yet?

106 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:35:12am

re: #98 Iron Fist

Yeah,
all joking aside it looks like Bush is going out of his way to make the
transition of power smooth. It stands as a stark contrast from how the
Clinton Administration relinquished power.

I guess Bush could still pardon some of the FBI's most wanted if he wanted to follow in the Clintonist Tradition.

Think any White House staffers will rip the "O" off of the computer keyboards?

107 nonic  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:35:30am

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

Some countries -- I believe Israel, for one -- refused to allow Sesame Street to be broadcast because studies showed that it shortened children's attention spans.

108 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:35:47am

re: #98 Iron Fist

Yeah, all joking aside it looks like Bush is going out of his way to make the transition of power smooth. It stands as a stark contrast from how the Clinton Administration relinquished power.

I guess Bush could still pardon some of the FBI's most wanted if he wanted to follow in the Clintonist Tradition.

Perhaps he can just pardon all of the Fallujah Marines and all of the internees at Gitmo and save us all quite some little bit of $$$. Not to mention deny The One a political victory over the closing of Gitmo.

109 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:35:54am
110 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:35:55am

re: #105 Nevergiveup

Olmert: By returning to 1967 borders, we can develop a new Zionism (Haaretz)


15:42 Olmert: Israel risks losing international support to establish two countries (Haaretz)

Olmert: To enable peace, Israel must give up land and return to 1967 borders (Haaretz)

Gee, ain't this guy history yet?

Because there were no wars or terrorism against Israel prior to 1967.
/

111 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:36:32am

re: #105 Nevergiveup

Olmert: By returning to 1967 borders, we can develop a new Zionism (Haaretz)


15:42 Olmert: Israel risks losing international support to establish two countries (Haaretz)

Olmert: To enable peace, Israel must give up land and return to 1967 borders (Haaretz)

Gee, ain't this guy history yet?

How does one say "Lebensraum" in Arabic?

112 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:36:33am

The giant pink donkey in the room during this election was the biased media. Obama not only had illegal financial support rolling in through un-checked credit cards.. he had the media rooting for him and covering for him.

Newsweek placed non-stop flattering photo's of "the one" on their cover..
the few times Palin or McCain made it to the cover - the photo was bad and the caption was worse.

F the MSM. The MSM is dead. Bush derangement moonbats are dirt.


Just a reminder to the 52 to there: 48 can really John Galt things up - if you know what I mean. But you wanted your holy Marxist. Deal.

113 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:36:49am

re: #104 Last Mohican

Do you suppose George and Laura will steal all the furniture?

Maybe they'll rent out the Lincoln bedroom and let their paying customers break up the historic furniture like the Clintons did.

114 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:36:52am

re: #98 Iron Fist

Bush should order immediate trials of Cheney, Rumsfeld & himself on war crimes trials, and then grant immediate pardons. That way Obama won't be able to put them on trial because of double jeopardy. Muahahaha!

115 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:36:52am

re: #55 nonic Gee, nonic, I'd sure like to ask Juan about

And inside black America, there is still disproportionate poverty, school dropouts, criminal activity, incarceration and single motherhood

whether or not he feels that there might, perchance, be some PERSONAL RESPOSIBILITY ON THE PART OF BLACK ADULTS for those issues, ya know?

116 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:06am

re: #108 galloping granny

Perhaps
he can just pardon all of the Fallujah Marines and all of the internees
at Gitmo
and save us all quite some little bit of $$$. Not to mention
deny The One a political victory over the closing of Gitmo.

I can think of a lot of things that should be done to our guests at Gitmo. Pardoning ain't one of them.

117 Golem Akbar  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:07am

Speaking of truth to power, it's amazing that here in California the Anti-Prop 8 people (those wanting to keep gay marriage) will protest in front of the Mormon or Catholic Church. Why don't they protest in Black or Hispanic neighborhoods? Except that speaking to truth to power in those neighborhoods will get their heads kicked in. [truth to power my ass: ttpma]

118 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:11am

re: #85 Golem Akbar

That's the kind of person that makes up the middle management in a totalitarian regiem. They'll follow orders, do whatever is asked of them, and never once question their leadership. This chick has real potential in an Obama Administration. If she'd claim that she was a lesbian, she could go very far, indeed.

119 jaunte  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:14am

re: #111 MandyManners

"Greater Syria."

120 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:14am

re: #87 bosforus

So the guy on Fox wasn't the source? A McCain crony just told him to be the messenger? I got the feeling that that guy that reported all the stuff knows who said what. A-holes.

Palin will be on with Greta tonight & the promo is that she fights back.
She knows who preped her, who was in the room etc. She may drop a dime on someone.

121 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:17am
122 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:27am

Do NOT mess with the lizard army. We don't all agree with Charles all of the time, but he sure can draw attention to something. I will be leaning on Charles and LGF heavily to get me through the next four years.

Every time I think I'm doing okay I see a shot of Biden and it sends me into a tailspin.

123 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:32am

re: #106 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Think any White House staffers will rip the "O" off of the computer keyboards?

No, just the 0.

124 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:53am
125 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:37:53am

re: #105 Nevergiveup

Olmert: By returning to 1967 borders, we can develop a new Zionism (Haaretz)


15:42 Olmert: Israel risks losing international support to establish two countries (Haaretz)

Olmert: To enable peace, Israel must give up land and return to 1967 borders (Haaretz)

Gee, ain't this guy history yet?

Ain't this guy read history? It's not like the Arabs gave them any peace up to 1967...

126 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:38:10am

re: #115 realwest

Good morning, RW. How are you this Monday morning?

127 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:38:12am

re: #101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think those are being made by a wingnut, not by Obama supporters. Though given their lack of, well, sense, they could be made by Obama supporters.

It isn't those who see it as ironic who will be buying them. . . . . coming to a block near you in 5, 4, 3, 2 . . .

128 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:38:15am

re: #62 Intrepid
Excellent, spot on comment!

129 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:38:17am

re: #115 realwest

Gee, nonic, I'd sure like to ask Juan about


whether or not he feels that there might, perchance, be some PERSONAL
RESPOSIBILITY ON THE PART OF BLACK ADULTS for those issues, ya know?

Bill Cosby thought so & he's lost his offical "Black" standing.

130 Nevergiveup  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:38:30am

re: #120 opnion

Palin will be on with Greta tonight & the promo is that she fights back.
She knows who preped her, who was in the room etc. She may drop a dime on someone.

I bet none of these assholes had the guts to say anything to her face!

131 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:38:44am

Unfortunately, I think the msm will become even more arrogant and powerful after this election. After all, they are the ones most responsible for the outcome. I hope I'm wrong, but I think they will only get worse as they now believe they are indeed, king-makers.

132 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:39:01am
133 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:39:10am

re: #106 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Think any White House staffers will rip the "O" off of the computer keyboards?

Wasn't that keyboard incident classy? Even for the Clinton's that was low brow. And I'm not underestimating how low brow they were to start with.

134 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:39:19am

re: #84 Occasional Reader

Um... I wouldn't take those T-shirts too seriously if I were you.

I don't, Obama's minions are out of his control but I think the SS symbol is more satire than anything and not something his supporters would wear. They are more the Che crowd.

135 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:39:26am

For me, the answer is NO.

136 Sponge  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:40:02am

That's all well and good, but it effected nada. The sheep still flock to the messiah because of his promise to pay for everything and remove the responsibility of the people. Society is getting lazy and any freebies they can get are welcomed even though everyone can see that socialism fails.....each and every time.

137 3 wood  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:40:28am

More evidence of jaw dropping bias, by yours truly:

Stunner: LA Times Attacks Conservatives

138 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:40:43am

re: #69 Bumr50
I disagree with you - we'd a had One Party to celebrate victory and then, knowing the lizards so well, I suspect we'd have spent the rest of our time telling McCain what to do! LOL!

139 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:40:48am

re: #116 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can think of a lot of things that should be done to our guests at Gitmo. Pardoning ain't one of them.

Isn't what I would necessarily want to do with them either. But I sure as hell would rather just turn them loose to whomever will have them than bring them into the US, give them the same rights as citizens and legal prisoners of war and spend further billions "prosecuting" their sorry asses, especially since we all know that any such "prosecution" will really turn into a prosecution of George Bush and the war itself. We'll end up with all of them taking a hike and all the blame for 911 falling right on us where the troofers want it anyway. I say let the suckers go and deny the Big O a political circus.

140 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:40:57am

Good early morning, Charles.

141 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:41:06am

re: #131 newsjunkie_ky

Unfortunately, I think the msm will become even more arrogant and powerful after this election. After all, they are the ones most responsible for the outcome. I hope I'm wrong, but I think they will only get worse as they now believe they are indeed, king-makers.

May you be wrong. But I fear you are not.

142 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:42:12am

re: #75 jorline
Why are you so tardy, hmmmm?

LOL! How are you doing today my friend?

143 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:42:25am

re: #120 opnion

Palin will be on with Greta tonight & the promo is that she fights back.
She knows who preped her, who was in the room etc. She may drop a dime on someone.

I will never watch Fox again. Sorry Greta.

144 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:42:34am

re: #137 3 wood

More evidence of jaw dropping bias, by yours truly:

Stunner: LA Times Attacks Conservatives

Progressives (I refuse to call them Liberals anymore) are ungracious in defeat and even worse in victory.

145 Wishing  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:42:56am

re: #73 Rancher

Oh my god, they have co-opted the SS symbol!

They sure have. OMG

146 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:45:12am

re: #86 galloping granny
Hey galloping granny!

Have the people of this nation completely and entirely lost their fucking minds?

No, they don't know what the SS was, what it did and no notion at all of what their symbols were.
No time for history here, just womyns' studies.

147 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:47:10am

re: #111 MandyManners

What was wrong with the "Old" Zionism? You know the one that created the State,. gave a safe haven to Jews all around the world, reignited a pride and joy in the Jewish heart, caused a miracle in our lifetime, and fulfilled the prayers of millions of Jews over thousands of years!?!

148 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:48:02am

re: #108 galloping granny


I'm thinking that Ramos and Compean need to get a pardon. Scooter Libby, too. The Left will, predictably, scream blue murder, but what can they really do to Bush/

Except for war crimes trials. I really hope that they're just blowing smoke with that idea. It would forever change the way the Presidency works if the President had to always be watching over his back for something that his successor could prosecute him for.

149 Wishing  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:48:41am

re: #108 galloping granny

Perhaps he can just pardon all of the Fallujah Marines and all of the internees at Gitmo and save us all quite some little bit of $$$. Not to mention deny The One a political victory over the closing of Gitmo.

And PLEASE release Jonathan Pollard! ENOUGH ALREADY!

150 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:49:14am

re: #139 galloping granny

My first reaction was that pardoning all the Gitmo detainees was an insane idea, and I couldn't figure out why you had suddenly gone off the deep end.

Now I realize that you have an excellent point here. Although I'm not sure a pardon is necessary. Maybe we should just release them somewhere, with no further comment. Perhaps in some foreign country where the CIA can keep an eye on them (until the Big 0 disbands the CIA, of course). Ideally just deliver the detainees, one at a time, to firehouses in New York City, and let nature take its course. But watching their terrorist hearts bleed on national television, and watching them sign multimillion dollar book deals to finance the jihad, is not something I look forward to.

151 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:49:48am

Crazy ass Muslim heretic begging for trouble...

The New Testament of Allah

If you have heard by now about my marriage to Almighty Allah, She is indeed the Goddess who created heaven and earth. So I won't be shy about The Exoneration when I did not know that God was a Woman. I guess we all learn sooner or later. I learned this uneasy truth last year. I was getting widespread rejection from Muslims and Christians for my religious synthesis. So, She married me.

What I am telling you is that while people are being killed in Allah's wrath, She has this whole time been having sex with me right here in Salinas, CA. My birth name is Eric Kingsley. My Islamic name is Mahdi Muhammad. Allah is a Woman. I'm not saying that to make you angry. Allah is a Woman and She has married Her Apostle. Here are excerpts from my religious texts to this day.

Next time a Muslim kills an innocent civilian, be sure to remind them that their god is having sex with an American rapper and She will not divorce me even they plotted together, every single one of them to destroy Her Apostle. The New Testament of Allah is intended to complement the Holy Quran as the Bibles of Islam.

Rap Love (Ghetto Edition) is now available on iTunes.

oh dear...

152 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:50:01am

re: #65 musicman

OT: Obama's Civilian National Security ForceBe the first on your block to get your uniform.

I could see wearing the logo with the fist, but I couldn't wear the one with the SS on it. Not goin' there.

153 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:50:10am

re: #150 Last Mohican

My first reaction was that pardoning all the Gitmo detainees was an insane idea, and I couldn't figure out why you had suddenly gone off the deep end.

Now I realize that you have an excellent point here. Although I'm not sure a pardon is necessary. Maybe we should just release them somewhere, with no further comment. Perhaps in some foreign country where the CIA can keep an eye on them (until the Big 0 disbands the CIA, of course). Ideally just deliver the detainees, one at a time, to firehouses in New York City, and let nature take its course. But watching their terrorist hearts bleed on national television, and watching them sign multimillion dollar book deals to finance the jihad, is not something I look forward to.

Exactly!

154 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:50:27am

re: #149 Wishing

The United States has asked Israel to release thousands of prisoners as "peace gestures', yet the U.S. cannot release one who has been held longer than actual traitors.

I guess to get released either Israel needs to start Terrorizing the U.S., or Pollard should have actually killed people like Ayers and Dorhn.

155 notutopia  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:50:29am

Bravo Mr. Malone!
The power of the media is truly in the hands of people like each one of us here at LGF. Many of the stories were dispatched by US to the conservative journalists. HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND to each and every LGF member who contributes toward establishing UNBIASED journalism and news sources.
The catalyst of an unbiased news source is donated each day to this site by members.
And from it's archives the stories get transferred and opined thousands of times. The cycle is completed when we contribute our healthy debate to that which Our Most Gracious Host selects for threads.
Again, Mr. Johnson, My humble thank you is not enough!
PS: Unconscious streaming is the most honest self, it is Not intimidated by your conscious self.

156 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:50:50am

Sorry, no link, from a Schwab e-mail.

Global equity markets are much higher and the US is following suit after China announced a massive fiscal stimulus package designed to support domestic demand.

One silver lining in all this is that other countries are following suit in the stimulus crap and that means the pressure on our dollar will not be as huge as it otherwise would be.

157 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:51:11am

re: #145 Wishing

That was a satire product, not official Obama merchandise.

158 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:51:12am

re: #124 taxfreekiller
Hey TFK - I just hope Bush reminds Obama "No more 9/11's in seven years while I was president. I'm passing that record on to you and I pray you can extend it another four years."

159 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:51:40am

re: #142 realwest

Why are you so tardy, hmmmm?

LOL! How are you doing today my friend?

Hey, RW. My new way of signing in and out on LGF...I honor of our President elect and his voting record...four years of present here...lol

160 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:51:47am
161 Intrepid  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:51:59am

re: #131 newsjunkie_ky

Unfortunately, I think the msm will become even more arrogant and powerful after this election. After all, they are the ones most responsible for the outcome. I hope I'm wrong, but I think they will only get worse as they now believe they are indeed, king-makers.

I'm wondering what they will do when (not if) President Obama makes decisions or takes actions that they don't like. Or the economy goes even further into the toilet. Or, God forbid, his foreign policy overtures result in that "test" Joe Biden spoke of, and it's one on our own soil.

Will they continue carrying water for him or will they turn on him and slam him? If they continue as his off-site communications department, the cognitive dissonance will eat them alive.

162 GGMac  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:52:26am

OT, but since the previous thread is fading, I'll put this up here as well - just a litle reminder that the Marine Corps charity "Toys for Tots' now has donation boxes set up in participating stores.

God bless our USMC.

OoooRah!

163 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:53:13am

Because conservatives have criticized Gorelick (how dare they!)-- - that has canceled out her baggage.

Short of appointing an actual member of al Qaeda, I cannot imagine a more offensive symbolic repudiation of the Global War on Terror — nor a more enthusiastic embrace of the chronic mismanagement, cronyism, and graft which led to this fall's credit crisis — than the appointment of Jamie Gorelick as attorney general.

I voted for Obama, as I'm sure my commenters are about to remind me, and I'm hoping for the best. He told me to hope! Please don't crush my hope so early, Mr. Obama.

--AA

*ugh* pre-inauguration hope-crush. get it while it's hot.

164 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:53:22am

re: #149 Wishing

And PLEASE release Jonathan Pollard! ENOUGH ALREADY!

NO chance.

165 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:53:28am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another brisk fall day in the valley and it's Mundane-day.

{realwest} Morning, luv. *smooooooooochie* Glad to see you today - all's well?

166 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:53:40am

re: #151 Kenneth

It's hard to tell if that's bone-deep satire, or the guy is really stark, raving mad...

167 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:54:14am

re: #166 Iron Fist

I'm guessing stark raving mad.

168 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:54:57am

re: #166 Iron Fist

It's hard to tell if that's bone-deep satire, or the guy is really stark, raving mad...

Welcome to the 21st Century - when satire can't be distinguished from reality.

169 bosforus  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:55:00am

re: #163 FrogMarch

Because conservatives have criticized Gorelick (how dare they!)-- - that has canceled out her baggage.

Short of appointing an actual member of al Qaeda, I cannot imagine a more offensive symbolic repudiation of the Global War on Terror — nor a more enthusiastic embrace of the chronic mismanagement, cronyism, and graft which led to this fall's credit crisis — than the appointment of Jamie Gorelick as attorney general.


--AA

*ugh* pre-inauguration hope-crush. get it while it's hot.

Welcome to the new Hope. The hope for the least possible damage.

170 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:55:12am

re: #159 jorline I almost wish that that's exactly what Obama would do - just sleep for four years unless he was to awake long enough to carry on the GWoT.
I'm doing ok today - but COLD - damn, it was 32 degrees when I got up around 8 this morning!
How are you doing?

171 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:55:39am

I hear that algore has awoken form his pre-election hibernation. He's due to make future global warming plans public very soon...I'll bet it's after 1/20/09.

172 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:56:17am

re: #171 jorline

I hear that algore has awoken form his pre-election hibernation. He's due to make future global warming plans public very soon...I'll bet it's after 1/20/09.

Might be a tough sell since arctic ice is reforming at a rate greater than any in recorded history.

173 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:56:20am

re: #139 galloping granny

I agree with Granny.

174 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:56:56am

re: #161 Intrepid

Will they continue carrying water for him or will they turn on him and slam him? If they continue as his off-site communications department, the cognitive dissonance will eat them alive.

I'm surrounded by moonbats in my daily life. I know how they think. There is absolutely no limit to their insanity. If Obama were to close Gitmo, and one of the freed terrorists were to kill a moonbat's own child, he or she would blame the attack on eight years of "failed Bush policies," and thank Obama for taking steps to start the healing so that no more parents might have to go through such a terrible ordeal.

That being the case, I wouldn't count on any change in the behavior of the press, no matter what happens.

175 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:57:03am

Let the NY Times lead the way. As the MSM looses more and more credibility they loose more and more audience and revenue. Left alone the market will correct this bias. But along comes the fairness doctrine...

176 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:57:13am

re: #130 Nevergiveup

I bet none of these assholes had the guts to say anything to her face!


There is lots of speculation that the source is Nicole Wallace of the McCain Campaign.

177 Intrepid  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:57:20am

re: #151 Kenneth

Crazy ass Muslim heretic begging for trouble...

The New Testament of Allah

oh dear...

:-O

Fatwa coming her way (and his) in 5.4.3.2....

178 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:57:22am

re: #167 Kenneth

I'm guessing stark raving mad.

No, that's satire, although, like the Church of the Sub Genius, his intent may be to keep the "joke" going for as long as possible. Future monetary gain is also a good fuel for this kind of "madness."

179 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:57:55am
180 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:58:52am

re: #131 newsjunkie_ky
Hi ya {newsjunkie_ky} sorry to disagree with you here, but it wasn't the MSM that got Obama elected, it was the nearly 700 MILLION BUCKS that Obama raised from a "variety" of sources that got Obama elected.
Crap, he even managed to put out an informercial on seven broadband TV MSM stations and paid for it all out of his own campaign funds.

181 Davida  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 7:59:15am

OT:

Has anyone seen this?

Brokaw/Jarret Interview

Obama is ready to RULE?

182 JohnAdams  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:12am

The term that is buzzing around in my head these last few days is "group-think." I think that this in part is what has afflicted the MSM.

I also believe that this is what fueled the worldwide pack of dogs ravaging of George W. Bush for the last 8 years. There are certainly points to criticize W, but it was so outrageously over the top as to be ridiculous.

183 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:16am

re: #179 buzzsawmonkey

Let them go with or without GPS implants?

Why bother with the GPS implants? I strongly suspect that any "war on terror" we have been pursuing is done and over on Jan 20, just about 15 seconds after the oath is administered.

184 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:38am

re: #180 realwest

Now if he had actually saved that money and used it to privately jumpstart all those social programs he wishes to tax everyone for...we could be ahead already.

IMAGINE, that all the politicians took the millions their earn for themselves, and their careers and instead used it on the things they promise to do with other peoples money....Now there is CHANGE I can hope to believe in.

185 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:45am

re: #179 buzzsawmonkey

Keep it random, and pop one every few months just for amusement value. Keep them all guessing about whether or not they'll be next. I'm talking about years of amusement. It'd just suck not to know if you were going to wake up in the morning when you go to sleep at night.

I'd hate that for them.

186 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:52am

re: #181 Davida

I fear this will not end well.

187 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:53am

re: #170 realwest

I almost wish that that's exactly what Obama would do - just sleep for four years unless he was to awake long enough to carry on the GWoT.
I'm doing ok today - but COLD - damn, it was 32 degrees when I got up around 8 this morning!
How are you doing?

I'm well and warm here...headed to the mid 80's today. My son plays year-round baseball with two teams so the weekends are always spent at the ballpark. I enjoy watching baseball this time of year in south TX. Stay warm my friend and throw another log on the fire for Mom.

188 Wishing  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:55am

re: #181 Davida

OT:

Has anyone seen this?

Brokaw/Jarret Interview

Obama is ready to RULE?

Um, what ever happened to "govern" ?

189 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:01:10am
190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:01:21am

re: #172 galloping granny

Might be a tough sell since arctic ice is reforming at a rate greater than any in recorded history.

That's why it's no longer called global warming - it's now "climate change", or as we used to say "the weather."

191 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:01:40am

re: #188 Wishing

Um, what ever happened to "govern" ?

Kings do not govern.

192 Davida  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:01:44am

re: #182 JohnAdams

I just finished reading 1984 a few days ago.

I wanted to be well versed in Newspeak, so maybe I could dodge a few pitfalls in the coming years...

Groupthink indeed.

193 jaunte  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:01:45am

I was just looking at a trade publication here in the office, and noticed an ad for Editor & Publisher announcing the E&P Pub Blog.
"Join Greg Mitchell, Shawn Moynihan, Joe Strupp, Mark Fitzgerald, Jennifer Saba and Jim Rosenberg as they discuss newsroon controversies, budget cuts, political and war coverage, and more."
If everyone would comment directly to news-people on the topic of media bias, maybe they can be prodded into making a change.
Here's the link:
[Link: www.eandppub.com...]

194 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:01:52am

What Malone wrote about was nothing new this election news cycle. I remember earlier there were multiple stories by the MSM outlets about the very open media bias and then were promptly ignored.

Now we have a triumphant MSM and ACORN that know they can elect whom they want, and will continue the skullduggery.

195 bosforus  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:02:03am

re: #171 jorline

I hear that algore has awoken form his pre-election hibernation. He's due to make future global warming plans public very soon...I'll bet it's after 1/20/09.

The ironic part is that he didn't thaw out over summer.

196 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:02:29am

re: #189 buzzsawmonkey

I'd say go with them, on the off chance you're wrong. I've always said, "Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it."

Well, there is that. Pretty off chance I'm wrong though. Seen the celebrations in the muslim world? They are even naming mountains after the SOB.

197 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:02:44am

re: #182 JohnAdams

The term that is buzzing around in my head these last few days is "group-think." I think that this in part is what has afflicted the MSM.

I also believe that this is what fueled the worldwide pack of dogs ravaging of George W. Bush for the last 8 years. There are certainly points to criticize W, but it was so outrageously over the top as to be ridiculous.

Yeah they have gone over the top on W. You could almost believe that his first name is 'Failed"

198 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:03:08am

re: #195 bosforus

The ironic part is that he didn't thaw out over summer.

It was much too cold.

199 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:03:12am
200 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:03:49am

re: #172 galloping granny

Might be a tough sell since arctic ice is reforming at a rate greater than any in recorded history.

For now. But rumor has it that Al Gore has been seen loading up his private plane with pick axes, and about a month's worth of roast beef sandwiches and Mountain Dew. He may be up to something.

201 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:04:21am

re: #161 Intrepid
The msm can annoint a king and behead one if he goes against their wishes.

202 WriterMom  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:04:35am

re: #71 opnion

Actually, Reuters is reporting that media bias was really minimal during the election. Why would they show any remorse, anyway? They did the bidding for Their Messiah without any pretense of objectivity, and now are awaiting for the Annointment in January. I wonder what they are going to write about nowadays. Comedy writers are going to be going hungry, starving, looking for material that does not offend The First Black President and His Minions. They may have to switch from arugula to iceberg!

203 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:04:59am

tsk, tsk, tsk....and I thought speaking about the end of the world wasn't allowed around here.

204 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:05:11am
205 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:05:47am

re: #100 Kenneth

It's a South Park episode.

206 Sunlight  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:05:48am

LGF commenters are still too soft on these MSM people. They are not "BIASED"... rather they are the marketing department for the DNC. In their schools, they have not been trained to report facts, they have been trained to "make a difference." Facts have nothing to do with their mission.

Until PJ, LGF, Drudge, et al, figure out a way to replace the traditional breakfast table paper and evening TV network news, FACTS and multiple viewpoints will not re-enter the American psyche. Elections will continue to be thrown. I'm glad Charles got a Kindle. Maybe that could be the replacement medium for a news stream that replaces the newspapers.

207 Wishing  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:05:50am

re: #202 WriterMom
They may have to switch from arugula to iceberg!

lolol

208 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:05:52am

re: #181 Davida

OT:

Has anyone seen this?

Brokaw/Jarret Interview

Obama is ready to RULE?

He thinks he's Daley's counterpart in Washington.

/That's King Richard II to you.

209 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:05:53am

re: #188 Wishing

Um, what ever happened to "govern" ?

Actually, "rule" may be the more apt word.

Obama to use Executive Orders.

210 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:06:08am

re: #202 WriterMom

Actually, Reuters is reporting that media bias was really minimal during the election. Why would they show any remorse, anyway? They did the bidding for Their Messiah without any pretense of objectivity, and now are awaiting for the Annointment in January. I wonder what they are going to write about nowadays. Comedy writers are going to be going hungry, starving, looking for material that does not offend The First Black President and His Minions. They may have to switch from arugula to iceberg!

It was only media bias when the opinions expressed were not in favor of their anointed successor.

211 JohnAdams  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:06:21am

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's why it's no longer called global warming - it's now "climate change", or as we used to say "the weather."

Even something as innocuous as "the weather" must be politicized. Even Mother Earth hates Bush.

212 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:06:43am

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Good morning, Walter. I was following your post last night about Mr. Spencer's emails to you...did he ever answer your questions and stop his bomb emails?

213 WriterMom  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:07:08am

re: #111 MandyManners

Ummah.

214 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:07:34am

re: #180 realwest

Hi ya {newsjunkie_ky} sorry to disagree with you here, but it wasn't the MSM that got Obama elected, it was the nearly 700 MILLION BUCKS that Obama raised from a "variety" of sources that got Obama elected.
Crap, he even managed to put out an informercial on seven broadband TV MSM stations and paid for it all out of his own campaign funds.


As of right now we are FREE to disagree in America. Without the msm covering up information, making up information, trashing McCain/Palin, the money would have only gone so far.
Hey right back at ya, my friend.

215 non-lib Nina  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:07:38am

re: #186 rawmuse

I fear this will not end well.

It is not gonna start well either. :(

216 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:07:43am

re: #192 Davida

I just finished reading 1984 a few days ago. I wanted to be well versed in Newspeak, so maybe I could dodge a few pitfalls in the coming years... Groupthink indeed.

But remember, when Newspeak is totally ingrained in the vocabulary, you will not be able to post here on LGF, since you will not have any words left to use, that would convey a subversive thought.

Doubleplusgood I would say.

/

217 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:07:50am

re: #195 bosforus

The ironic part is that he didn't thaw out over summer.

and he has a very long winter ahead of him...perhaps he'll go back to sleep.

218 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:08:10am

re: #200 Last Mohican

For now. But rumor has it that Al Gore has been seen loading up his private plane with pick axes, and about a month's worth of roast beef sandwiches and Mountain Dew. He may be up to something.

He's going to chop up the ice and add his own methane to the Arctic air?

219 clayusmcret  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:08:10am

On Charlie Rose a very well known network anchor was saying "I know nothing about Barak Obama's plans for foreign policy." "I know nothing about Barak Obama's domestic policy." "I know nothing about Barak Obama's....." This was not two years ago, or even a year ago. This was as Barak Obama was being elected President of the United States. If he could not answer the question at election time, what average American could?

A pox on the traditional news media for not doing what many people have fought and died to allow - an open and honest news media capable of revealing facts to the American people.

As we celebrate the Marine Corps' 233rd birthday, I wonder what we fought all those years for....because I cannot find it.

220 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:08:22am

re: #208 Honorary Yooper

He thinks he's Daley's counterpart in Washington.

/That's King Richard II to you.

They love their Dick Daley up in Chicago, eh?

221 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:09:05am

re: #192 Davida

A best dictionary of Newspeak, compiled from the novel...

[Link: www.newspeakdictionary.com...]

222 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:09:16am

re: #165 {Miss Trixie} hey good (looks at watch) morning gorgeous! And of course *smooochies* back atcha!
Yeah I'm doing ok today, just really COLD down here in N.C. - I'm thinking it's God's way of punishing NC for going for Obama!
How are you doing today? How's Lil Miss?

223 WriterMom  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:09:20am

re: #120 opnion

Shame on McCain, Mr. "Honour" for allowing this to happen. Has he made even ONE public statement about this? Jerk.

224 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:10:23am

re: #209 rawmuse

Actually, "rule" may be the more apt word.

Obama to use Executive Orders.

I remember the media outrage whenever Bush used Executive Orders by branding him the "Imperial President". I would suspect the extensive use of EOs by Obama will be journalized (I can not say reported) as only necessary to correct all the Bush/Republican mistakes.

225 JohnAdams  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:10:38am

re: #204 buzzsawmonkey

"Mountain Dew" reminds me of the old joke about "sex Folger's style: mount 'n' groan."

LOL...dang, you are on your game this morning.

226 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:10:38am

Michael, if you're reading, that was an excellent column, and I hope you're doing well. I understand and appreciate your efforts at self-protection after the column gained widespread attention.

227 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:10:50am

re: #205 lawhawk

It's a South Park episode.


My DVR cut off the ending. What happened?

228 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:11:29am

re: #224 FurryOldGuyJeans

I
remember the media outrage whenever Bush used Executive Orders by
branding him the "Imperial President". I would suspect the extensive
use of EOs by Obama will be journalized (I can not say reported) as
only necessary to correct all the Bush/Republican mistakes.

Are Executive Orders even consitutional? Has anyone challenged them in the courts?

229 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:11:29am

re: #219 clayusmcret

On Charlie Rose a very well known network anchor was saying "I know nothing about Barak Obama's plans for foreign policy." "I know nothing about Barak Obama's domestic policy." "I know nothing about Barak Obama's....." This was not two years ago, or even a year ago. This was as Barak Obama was being elected President of the United States. If he could not answer the question at election time, what average American could?

A pox on the traditional news media for not doing what many people have fought and died to allow - an open and honest news media capable of revealing facts to the American people.

As we celebrate the Marine Corps' 233rd birthday, I wonder what we fought all those years for....because I cannot find it.

That sounds like someone taking the Fifth.

230 outsidephilly  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:12:21am

re: #10 McJenny50

Couldn't resist

Barrack Obama, Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey were flying on Obama’s
private plane. Obama looked at Oprah, chuckled and said, ‘You know, I
could throw a $1,000 bill out of the window right now and make somebody very happy .

Oprah shrugged her shoulders and replied, ‘I could throw ten $100 bills out of the window and make ten people very happy.

Michelle added, That being the case, I could throw one hundred $10 bills out of the window and make a hundred people very happy.’

Hearing their exchange the pilot rolled his eyes and said to his co-pilot,
Such big-shots back there. I could throw all of their a…..s out of the window
and make 56 million people very happy.’

I'm glad you didn't resist . . . . . . , sending this, that is

231 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:12:21am

re: #179 buzzsawmonkey
Hey buzz - did ya mean C-4 implants or GPS implants or both?!
/

232 3 wood  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:12:24am

re: #161 Intrepid

I'm wondering what they will do when (not if) President Obama makes decisions or takes actions that they don't like. Or the economy goes even further into the toilet. Or, God forbid, his foreign policy overtures result in that "test" Joe Biden spoke of, and it's one on our own soil.

They will blame conservatives and dissenters.

The MSM has now become the equivalent of Pravda for the Democrats.

Did you see the political talk shows yesterday morning?

Not even an attempt to hide their joy and their support. They never came withing sniffing distance of a difficult question.

They might as well just put on cheer leader outfits and knee pads.

233 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:12:38am

re: #227 newsjunkie_ky

My DVR cut off the ending. What happened?

Randy Marsh wakes up, hung over, with his pants & TV stolen, and is fired. He laments ever voting for Obama.

234 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:12:47am

re: #219 clayusmcret

On Charlie Rose a very well known network anchor was saying "I know nothing about Barak Obama's plans for foreign policy." "I know nothing about Barak Obama's domestic policy." "I know nothing about Barak Obama's....." This was not two years ago, or even a year ago. This was as Barak Obama was being elected President of the United States. If he could not answer the question at election time, what average American could?

A pox on the traditional news media for not doing what many people have fought and died to allow - an open and honest news media capable of revealing facts to the American people.

As we celebrate the Marine Corps' 233rd birthday, I wonder what we fought all those years for....because I cannot find it.

And one mr. tom brokaw was on that show saying the exact same thing.

235 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:12:53am

re: #212 jorline

Good morning, Walter. I was following your post last night about Mr. Spencer's emails to you...did he ever answer your questions and stop his bomb emails?

This small paragraph...

"Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

... was the only answer to my original question. His "email bombs" were simply to suggest I was working for Charles, or lying to him, or trying to stir the pot, etc. And of course, to state that I am "wildly misinterpreting" (his words) his statement above.

But, no, he has not clarify the above statement, nor explained to me how I am "wildly misinterpreting" his remark.

Walter in Golden, Co.

236 GGMac  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:13:23am

re: #181 Davida

OT:

Has anyone seen this?

Brokaw/Jarret Interview

Obama is ready to RULE?


This gives me goose flesh - or rather, GOOSE-STEPPING- flesh.

237 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:13:29am

re: #228 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Are Executive Orders even consitutional? Has anyone challenged them in the courts?

I'm not sure anyone has ever challenged them - but then that would take a US attorney, and they all work at the pleasure of the president.

Constitutional? Since they do not have to even be published, I wouldn't think so. All that is required is that the POTUS issue and sign the order, which can then be buried somewhere as top secret for his eyes only.

238 JohnAdams  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:13:32am

re: #206 Sunlight

LGF commenters are still too soft on these MSM people. They are not "BIASED"... rather they are the marketing department for the DNC. In their schools, they have not been trained to report facts, they have been trained to "make a difference." Facts have nothing to do with their mission.

Until PJ, LGF, Drudge, et al, figure out a way to replace the traditional breakfast table paper and evening TV network news, FACTS and multiple viewpoints will not re-enter the American psyche. Elections will continue to be thrown. I'm glad Charles got a Kindle. Maybe that could be the replacement medium for a news stream that replaces the newspapers.

Chrissy Matthews has already admitted as much. I prefer cheerleaders who are much better looking.

239 Davida  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:13:41am

re: #206 Sunlight

I'm glad Charles got a Kindle. Maybe that could be the replacement medium for a news stream that replaces the newspapers.

Hey.... you might be onto something there....

240 Intrepid  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:14:13am

re: #223 WriterMom

Shame on McCain, Mr. "Honour" for allowing this to happen. Has he made even ONE public statement about this? Jerk.

Evidently, McCain thinks it's enough to let Salter and Schmidt carry that load.

But he personally has made no statements at all. And that, I find, is indefensible.

241 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:14:40am

re: #182 JohnAdams

The term that is buzzing around in my head these last few days is "group-think." I think that this in part is what has afflicted the MSM.

Speaking of group think the latest media montage Rush put together has a bunch of MSM echoing each other describing Chicago thug Rahm Emanuel as having "sharp elbow's".

242 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:14:44am

Wow, you guys are so serious, here enjoy what I am doing.

243 3 wood  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:15:10am

re: #181 Davida

Obama is ready to RULE?

Yes, I saw that and I thought Brokaw was going to stand up and cheer. He certainly did not challenge the idea. It was absolutely disgusting.

244 jemima  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:15:30am

re: #183 galloping granny

Why bother with the GPS implants? I strongly suspect that any "war on terror" we have been pursuing is done and over on Jan 20, just about 15 seconds after the oath is administered.

Thank you. There is no GWOT--it's Bush's lie. There will be peace now (What do we want? PEACE! When do we want it? NOW!) All we are saayyy-ing (thump) is give Barry a chance....

It's really so simple if you just become one with Landru. (And yes, everything does go back to Star Trek.)

245 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:16:15am

re: #239 Davida

Hey.... you might be onto something there....

Don't count on that by a long shot. I buy quite some bit from Amazon, but it has not escaped my notice that every time they had a magazine sale during the campaign, instead of the illustration featuring any of the 500 or so magazines they carry that featured anything or anyone on the cover that was no Obama, each and every time Obama's face made the "random" cut.

Personally, I would call that free advertising and a campaign donation.

246 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:16:24am

re: #233 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thanks, I think there will be a lot of regret once The Zero begins to RULE us in Jan.

247 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:16:25am

re: #194 FurryOldGuyJeans

I remember stories about "journalists" at CBS (I believe it was CBS) high-fiving and cracking jokes when Reagan was shot. The Media has been in the tank for the Democrats all of my life.

248 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:16:29am

re: #223 WriterMom

Shame on McCain, Mr. "Honour" for allowing this to happen. Has he made even ONE public statement about this? Jerk.

No, nothing public, but FNC reported that he put out a memo to the Campaign to back off of Palin.
What camapign? I thought the other guy won.

249 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:17:05am

re: #223 WriterMom

Shame on McCain, Mr. "Honour" for allowing this to happen. Has he made even ONE public statement about this? Jerk.

On Sundays on the way to Mass, we drive through some rural areas to get to our church. In front of one home, several campaign signs for GOP candidates went up, about a month ago.

Yesterday, only one sign remained, an approximately 4' x 6' "Sarah!" sign, with McCain's name in the "McCain-Palin" line now blacked out, leaving only "Palin" on it. Ouch.

250 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:17:46am

re: #206 Sunlight
Uh, what's a Kindle?! Didja mean Kimber?

251 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:17:48am

re: #231 realwest

Give 'em a boob-job with C-4, then drop 'em naked into Mecca. It'd be fun.

252 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:18:04am

re: #222 realwest

hey good (looks at watch) morning gorgeous! And of course *smooochies* back atcha!
Yeah I'm doing ok today, just really COLD down here in N.C. - I'm thinking it's God's way of punishing NC for going for Obama!
How are you doing today? How's Lil Miss?

Cold? I've been knitting a scarf and if I ever figure out how to finish it, I'll send it to you. Right now it's almost 23' feet long ... =O

I'm fine, thanks for asking and Lil Miss is still her own irascible self.

253 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:18:32am

re: #244 jemima

Thank you.
There is no GWOT--it's Bush's lie. There will be peace now (What do we
want? PEACE! When do we want it? NOW!) All we are saayyy-ing (thump) is
give Barry a chance....

It's really so simple if you just become one with Landru. (And yes, everything does go back to Star Trek.)

Become one with Landru? She's not my type.

254 opinionated  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:19:38am
That it is possible in this new cyber-world to be a lone writer sitting at his laptop in suburbia and write something that actually changes the course of events and, momentary at least, sets the national debate.

But did the course of events really change?

When columns like this appear, they buttress our opinions. It's good to see that others share our view. But what did it change?

The media remained unapologetically in the tank for Obama. And likely they will continue on that course.

255 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:20:17am

re: #250 realwest

Uh, what's a Kindle?! Didja mean Kimber?

It is an ebook reader that Amazon sells.

256 3 wood  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:20:30am

re: #224 FurryOldGuyJeans

I would suspect the extensive use of EOs by Obama will be journalized (I can not say reported) as only necessary to correct all the Bush/Republican mistakes.

Obama's use of executive orders will be hailed by the MSM as clear evidence of his dynamic leadership and his being The One.

Anyone questioning or dissenting from this will be immediately attacked and labeled an enemy of the State.

257 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:20:56am

re: #250 realwest

Uh, what's a Kindle?! Didja mean Kimber?

What's a Kimber?

258 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:21:23am

re: #224 FurryOldGuyJeans

I remember the media outrage whenever Bush used Executive Orders by branding him the "Imperial President". I would suspect the extensive use of EOs by Obama will be journalized (I can not say reported) as only necessary to correct all the Bush/Republican mistakes.

The first thing he'll do is rescind all pro-life executive orders.

259 Wishing  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:22:56am

re: #257 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What's a Kimber?


/www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/compactprocarry/pro _carry_II/" target="_blank" br/a" target="_blank">Kimber

260 jemima  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:23:02am

re: #253 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Become one with Landru? She's not my type.

I'm surprised to hear that said. During Katrina there were so many comments along the lines of "(Slobber slobber) I'd like to git me some of that!) that I just kept the bottle of Tums on my desk.

261 Wishing  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:24:03am

/www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/compactprocarry/pro _carry_II/" target="_blank" br/a" target="_blank">Kimber

262 opinionated  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:24:18am

re: #224 FurryOldGuyJeans

I think it might be an interesting exercise to start a bidding on just what outrageous act Obama will have to commit for the mainstream media to begin criticizing him.

263 Wishing  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:24:34am

re: #261 Wishing

Weird..having some problems with links...
Back in a bit

264 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:24:43am

re: #246 newsjunkie_ky

Hell, I regret it now. I just can't think of any way I could have been more helpful to the McCain campaign. If the Republicans want to see fight from their base, they need to step up and show us something worth fighting for. Just being against the Democrat isn't going to win elections.

265 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:24:57am

re: #209 rawmuse
WTF? From your link: ""It's going to be a cheerful opposition," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. "We're going to carry those timeless principles of limited government, a strong defense, traditional values, to the American people."

Pence, of Indiana, is expected to take over the No. 3 leadership post among House Republicans."
A cheerful opposition? That's just one of the MANY things wrong with the Republican Party these days. Obama is determined to make structual changes to the way America is governed - and, just as before he was elected - he has absolutely NO EXPERIENCE to speak of on which to base these changes, other than the opinons of his bud's Ayers, Dorhn, Wright, Pflegler, et. al.
Let's see how "cheerful" he is when Podesta et.al. get through with him.
Stupid mofo.

266 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:26:05am

re: #264 Iron Fist

it is called the US Constitution and the Rule of Law.
Pray that it is still around to fight for in 2 years.

267 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:26:05am

re: #257 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Kimber. I don't want one. I want several of 'em.

268 jemima  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:26:06am

Cecil Kimber founded the MG company--you sportscar people already know that.

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

269 legalpad  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:27:11am

re: #223 WriterMom

Shame on McCain, Mr. "Honour" for allowing this to happen. Has he made even ONE public statement about this? Jerk.

I heard he had contacted his staff and told them to cut it out. I have not seen or heard of any public statement. If it was me or 1000 other men I have known instead of McCain, it would have been clear that this sort of thing would end your career. It would have been absolutely prevented. All that compromising with leftists has disoriented the Senator.

270 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:27:25am

re: #219 clayusmcret
Do you have the link for that? I know it was posted here over the weekend - and it was Rose and Tom Brokaw who admitted their total lack of knowledge of the man they wanted to see elected as POTUS.

271 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:27:48am

i love how he wrote honestly from the heart.
that is everything. magic.
people are moved by it.

272 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:28:01am

re: #262 opinionated

I think it might be an interesting exercise to start a bidding on just what outrageous act Obama will have to commit for the mainstream media to begin criticizing him.

Shredding the Constitution and replacing it with a Communist Manifesto.

273 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:28:34am

re: #272 Miss Trixie

Shredding the Constitution and replacing it with a Communist Manifesto.

Even that will not be enough.

274 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:29:34am

re: #30 ploome hineni

FOX is doing another story on the trashing of Sarah Palin

I am gobsmacked, how McCain is allowing her to twist in the wind of these disturbing rumors

I am losing whatever respect I stll had for John McCan

he should just give a fraction of the respect to her that he gave to his worthless opponent.

275 Buck  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:29:46am

re: #30 ploome hineni

FOX is doing another story on the trashing of Sarah Palin

I am gobsmacked, how McCain is allowing her to twist in the wind of these disturbing rumors

I am losing whatever respect I stll had for John McCan


IMO

Just think if he 'comes to her defense' then it looks like she can't handle herself. If she is going to be one of the boys, then she is going to have to fight her own battles.

276 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:30:14am

re: #264 Iron Fist
The very first thing that needs to be done to prevent a nominee like we just had is to contact the Republican State Party officials. They need to change (in some states) their rules and make it so that ONLY Republicans can vote in the primaries. NH and SC come to mind.

277 Sunlight  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:30:19am

re: #250 realwest

Uh, what's a Kindle?! Didja mean Kimber?

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

278 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:30:30am

re: #269 legalpad

McCain was a bad candidate. It's just that he was better than Obama. I voted for him, but I was never thrilled by him. Palin OTOH I really was impressed by. And I saw the media do everything in its power to discredit her. They were partially successful in that, sad to say. I hope she can recover from it for the 2012 election.

279 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:31:15am

re: #269 legalpad

I heard he had contacted his staff and told them to cut it out. I have not seen or heard of any public statement. If it was me or 1000 other men I have known instead of McCain, it would have been clear that this sort of thing would end your career. It would have been absolutely prevented. All that compromising with leftists has disoriented the Senator.

McCain was a poor cadidate & now a poor ex candidate.
He had such trouble crticising Obama, but absolutely no probleb beating on Romney, to the point of spreading a lie before the Florida primary.

280 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:31:38am

re: #275 Buck

IMO

Just think if he 'comes to her defense' then it looks like she can't handle herself. If she is going to be one of the boys, then she is going to have to fight her own battles.

If he had come to her defense from the get-go, that would have been a good thing. It is now too little, too late even if he did. And besides, divorcing Palin from the McCain association is a good thing if we want her to continue on the national stage.

281 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:31:56am

re: #273 galloping granny

Shred the Constitution?

Shred all the rifles first, not possible.

282 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:31:58am

Regarding the "SS" shirts, hats, etc.:
It is disheartening to see how many regular, long-time lizards immediately and knee-jerked-ly responded as if "THEY" were doing this. I wonder how many of you fired off e-mails to lists half a second after seeing it, and now, how many e-mail lists are being populated with "See! Look what THEY are doing!" and how many millions of people now have this panicky e-mail on their screens and are now re-forwarding them to more lists.

I really am surprised sometimes. Cafepress has been linked to from LGF quite a few hunderd times in the past few years. Besides, even if this was the first time, I really thought my lizards were brighter than that.

It's SATIRE. It's SATIRE. It's SATIRE. Repeat verbally before firing off mass-emails, please. (Hypothetical, I hope.) We're not moonbats. We think, we analyze, we digest, then we act. Thank you. But who wants to bet someone and probably a few someones have already sent out the new meme "LOOK! THEY'RE CO-OPTING SS LOGOES! NOES!"

-Taq

283 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:32:56am

Alaska is probably trying to dust off that secessionist movement right about now.
Can't say that I would blame them.
BTW Hawaii has had a very active secessionist movement for more than a decade.
I track it routinely, get all their emails, etc.
Never a mention of that in the MSM.

284 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:33:11am

re: #228 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Are Executive Orders even consitutional? Has anyone challenged them in the courts?

They have been issued since 1789, and while there is no explicit basis for them there is a vague grant of "executive power" given in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution and the statement "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" in Article II, Section 3. Until the 1950's there was no guidelines to what a president could do or not do with an EO.

Congress can overturn an EO by passing legislation in conflict with it, or by refusing funding to implement the EO.

Even though there have been legal challenges to EOs only two have been overturned.

285 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:34:09am

re: #282 Taqiyyotomist

Exactly. It is satire. Sick satire, but satire, nonetheless.

286 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:34:13am

re: #279 opnion

McCain never lacked bad things to say about Republicans. That's why the media loved him so damn much. They only savaged him so much to keep him from winning. Now that they have the One comfortably ensconced, I expect they'll go back to McCain being their favorite Republican. And McCain will get on back to attacking Republicans.

287 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:35:28am

re: #275 Buck

IMO

Just think if he 'comes to her defense' then it looks like she can't handle herself. If she is going to be one of the boys, then she is going to have to fight her own battles.

Yeah, but if you use that logic then Obama could defend himself, but McCain sure stepped up for BHO.
He & Palin were a team & it seems to me that he owes her a defence, particularly since the rumors come from his campaign.

288 Rancher  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:35:31am

re: #274 nyc redneck

he should just give a fraction of the respect to her that he gave to his worthless opponent.

McCain aids have attacked Sarah more than they attacked Wright, Ayers, and Phleger.

289 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:36:44am
290 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:36:57am

re: #240 Intrepid
"But he [McCain] personally has made no statements at all. And that, I find, is indefensible, and dishonorable."Thought I'd fix that for you.

291 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:37:04am

re: #288 Rancher

McCain aids have attacked Sarah more than they attacked Wright, Ayers, and Phleger.

Makes you wonder sometimes who those McCain aides were really working for.

292 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:37:44am

Anyone else noticing that the Islamists in Iraq are getting antsy and can't wait for the Obama administration. There was another major bombing there today, and I think we'll be seeing a lot more of this as we get closer to 1/20/09.

293 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:38:15am

re: #235 Walter L. Newton

"Actually, I am fighting jihad, and have no interest in or intention to investigate these groups. Insofar as they are fighting jihad, I applaud them. Insofar as they are doing anything else, my endorsement is not implied."

I saw this response...very disturbing. At what point and how does he separate the "good form the evil"?

Sounds like the Obama response to all his character lapses and associations.

Robert Spencer = Sgt. Schultz...I see nothingggggggggggg.

294 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:38:22am

re: #286 Iron Fist

McCain never lacked bad things to say about Republicans. That's why the media loved him so damn much. They only savaged him so much to keep him from winning. Now that they have the One comfortably ensconced, I expect they'll go back to McCain being their favorite Republican. And McCain will get on back to attacking Republicans.

Yeah, he can go hang out with Feingold & Teddy again & send Lindsay Grahm out for hamburgers

295 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:38:53am
296 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:38:54am

re: #288 Rancher

McCain aids have attacked Sarah more than they attacked Wright, Ayers, and Phleger.

McCain's campaign made Dole's campaign appear dynamic and powerful in comparison. We were handed a candidate by the media that was a loser even before the starting gate opened.

297 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:39:10am

re: #293 jorline

It is well to remember that FDR once allied with Stalin.

298 Intrepid  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:39:23am

re: #290 realwest

"But he [McCain] personally has made no statements at all. And that, I find, is indefensible, and dishonorable."Thought I'd fix that for you.

Good addition. :-)

299 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:40:06am

re: #255 galloping granny
Ah right, I saw and read Charles' thread on that but forgot it was called a Kimble - methinks they could use a better, catchier name for it, no?!

300 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:40:22am

re: #288 Rancher

McCain aids have attacked Sarah more than they attacked Wright, Ayers, and Phleger.

Maybe McCain is hoping for a Sec Def position in Obama's cabinet?

301 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:40:48am

re: #297 rawmuse

It is well to remember that FDR once allied with Stalin.

We still have people in Government service that want to ally with Stalinist ideals.

302 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:41:00am

i wonder how michelle will behave in the white house today.
what will she do w/ her ingrained belligerence and hostility?
i think she needs a crash course in how to conduct herself as a "first lady"
w/ the focus on basic civility and graciousness.

303 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:41:40am

re: #252 {Miss Trixie}
23 feet long? WOW! That's enough to cover my entire, uh, well - enough to keep me warm! LOL!

304 Opinionated  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:42:10am

Dole Lost
Sununu Lost
Chambliss didn't win yet in Georgia

This race was much more then just about what sort of candidate McCain was.

Republicans need to look inward at why they are losing the deciding voters- the center.

Getting just the "base" excited will not win national elections.

305 3 wood  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:42:10am

re: #272 Miss Trixie

Shredding the Constitution and replacing it with a Communist Manifesto.

Most of the MSM I know would cheer that.

306 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:42:21am

re: #297 rawmuse

It is well to remember that FDR once allied with Stalin.

And Neville Chamberlain saw nothing wrong with Hitler.

307 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:43:04am

re: #291 galloping granny

Makes you wonder sometimes who those McCain aides were really working for.

makes you wonder if mccain even wanted to be potus, after all.

308 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:43:39am

re: #259 Wishing
Um, you done went waaaay over the margins with that one. Time used to be that something like that would roger the thread, but Charles is so techno-cool that it doesn't anymore.
Still and all, it's one of the reasons for using Preview.

309 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:43:53am

re: #302 nyc redneck

i wonder how michelle will behave in the white house today.
what will she do w/ her ingrained belligerence and hostility?
i think she needs a crash course in how to conduct herself as a "first lady"
w/ the focus on basic civility and graciousness.

You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. Much too late to turn Michelle into any kind of a lady, much less a First.

310 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:44:19am

re: #307 nyc redneck

makes you wonder if mccain even wanted to be potus, after all.

That too.

311 opnion  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:44:29am

re: #296 FurryOldGuyJeans

McCain's campaign made Dole's campaign appear dynamic and powerful in comparison. We were handed a candidate by the media that was a loser even before the starting gate opened.

The MSM cheered on McCain, because he acted like a Democrat so often & he would be easy to defeat. Romney scared them.
McCain refused to use Reverend Wright? He should have skipped the primaries & left it open for someone who would actually run.

312 IgofAntioch  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:44:57am

If I were a member of the White House staff I would be tendering my resignation- I think Michelle will be abusive to the staff.

313 vancomycin  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:45:41am

opinionated:

Dole lost, and I distinctly remember people in the base not being all that excited by him.

I'm pretty sure you could say the same about the rest.

Everyone I know that *isn't* hard core lefty thought Palin saved McCain from a landslide. Everyone.

314 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:46:13am

re: #292 lawhawk

Quagmire redux!

315 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:46:50am

I still don't think McCain ever wanted to do anything but help Obama win. This week the MSM is all about "What can McCain do to recover?" Recover from what? A planned loss, after pretending to run? Recover his standing with the press that he enjoyed for 15 years for being a Democrat with an (R) after his name? Remember: Soros and McCain go way back. Just sayin. Besides that conspiratorial thought, and even without it, all one has to do is look at the campaign itself. Did McCain ever once do or say anything that indicated that he wanted to win? Hell no. We have been hornswaggled.

Will LGF be around in a year? If so, will internet anonymity? Will LGF be censored? Will LGF still be considered a hate-site if all mention of Islam becomes absent from its pages? (Speaking of which...what happened to Islam? Did every source of news on Islamic dawa, terror, and other malfeasance somehow get connected to Neo-Nazis, and therefore we can't get any news about it anymore? Any word on Jamaat ul-Fuqra compounds in VA and MI? Or did they go away? Or did they never really pose a problem in the first place since six-degrees-of-neonaziism has made all news of Islamic caliphate-push suspect?)

Just questions.

316 galloping granny  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:47:15am

re: #313 vancomycin

opinionated:

Dole lost, and I distinctly remember people in the base not being all that excited by him.

I'm pretty sure you could say the same about the rest.

Everyone I know that *isn't* hard core lefty thought Palin saved McCain from a landslide. Everyone.

Might be. I know one of my daughters stayed home and refused to vote at all (she had long intended to vote McCain) specifically because of Palin.

317 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:48:24am

re: #306 jorline

To be fair & accurate, Chamberlain did see much wrong with Hitler. He was mistaken that he could negotiate with him, but he did come to realize that war with Hitler was inevitable and that Britain needed time to get ready.

318 Opinionated  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:49:33am

re: #313 vancomycin

opinionated:

Dole lost,

Elizabeth Dole

319 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:49:36am

re: #315 Taqiyyotomist

That was satire too, right? Or are you suffering from a combined onslaught of Obama Derangement Syndrome and McCain Paranoid Complex?

320 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:50:18am

re: #275 Buck
Sorry Buck, but from the news items, it appears that these stories about Palin originated with aides for her that were appointed to her campaign staff by McCain.
The MSM is scared to death that she may be the GOP candidate in 2012 - with the meme that America has elected it's first Black President...........isn't it time America elected it's first Woman President?

321 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:51:20am

re: #290 realwest

"But he [McCain] personally has made no statements at all. And that, I find, is indefensible, and dishonorable."Thought I'd fix that for you.

Right you are.
McCain wore Palin like a flak-jacket to shield himself against the incoming from his own party, and he now figures he'll allow her to be offered up as a scapegoat to protect his own political hide.

322 Opinionated  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:54:10am

re: #316 galloping granny

Might be. I know one of my daughters stayed home and refused to vote at all (she had long intended to vote McCain) specifically because of Palin.

I've already been down dinged multiple times in other threads expressing the opinion that Palin did not help McCain- and likely hurt.

Yet 69% of Republicans continue to believe that she did help. So I have also been down dinged repeatedly for writing that this statistic confirms that Republicans remain delusional.

Your daughter was not unique. Unfortunately.

323 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:54:48am

re: #301 FurryOldGuyJeans

We still have people in Government service that want to ally with Stalinist ideals.

Funny you should mention it, but last night I was having a discussion with a co worker who is a Lib, but one of the few people that can engage in a discussion and remain civilized, and he posited that FDR actually saved Capitalism from an all but inevitable Communist Revolution in the US, during Hoover's administration.

What think ye of that? I had never given it any thought. I know that the Commie movement was strong during the '30's but I never knew they were anywhere close to a successful revolution.

324 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:55:35am

re: #100 Kenneth

Explain please: Bush Hope Diamond caper?

Most recent South Park episode. The entire election was a heist concocted by legendary jewel thieves John McCain and Barack Obama, so that one of them would get access to the secret tunnel under the White House that passes directly under the vault at the Smithsonian where the Hope Diamond is kept. Episode done in "Ocean's Eleven" style. Very clever.

325 Buck  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:56:11am

re: #320 realwest

Sorry Buck, but from the news items, it appears that these stories about Palin originated with aides for her that were appointed to her campaign staff by McCain.
The MSM is scared to death that she may be the GOP candidate in 2012 - with the meme that America has elected it's first Black President...........isn't it time America elected it's first Woman President?

Funny, we believe the 'news' when we want to, but we know they magnify the molehill into a mountain.

Sorry, I am not buying it.

326 jorline  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:56:12am

re: #317 Kenneth

To be fair & accurate, Chamberlain did see much wrong with Hitler. He was mistaken that he could negotiate with him, but he did come to realize that war with Hitler was inevitable and that Britain needed time to get ready.

Agree, but he turned a blind eye at the wrong time.

This is why I fear the new administrations temptation to bury their head in the sand by talking their way through conflicts...burying your head always leaves your ass exposed.

327 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:56:55am

re: #250 realwest

Uh, what's a Kindle?! Didja mean Kimber?

The Kimber protects our right to the Kindle.

328 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:58:36am

Other OT questions:
Who will be the first Vince Foster? That is, who will be the first to die for Knowing Too Much? My guess? Someone from FannieMae of FreddieMac will die in mysterious circumstances within weeks of inauguration.

Which companies will become the next Enrons? That is, which companies will call themselves "Green" and get insanely favorable treatment and become the World's Richest Company a year after the IPO? If you have money to invest, invest in "Green" and know when to get out before the incarcerations.

There is money to be made, just gotta know who will be chosen by the Chosen's administration. And it will be "Green". Divest from any companies making military hardware, unless that hardware also has potential use here at home against citizens. Look for companies who make say, bar-lights and handcuffs and tazers and police uniforms, and all tools of the criminal-apprehension trade. Invest heavily. If there exists a company that makes these products and is also "Green" you cannot go wrong. Again, just be sure to get out before the incarcerations. I checked, Wackenhut Security is not publicly tradable. Too bad. Prisons are going to boom. Who builds prisons? Are they publicly traded?

Again, 1st Vince Foster? One month after inauguration, no more. I wonder if Vegas has odds on First Person To Die Because They Knew Too Much? Or on Number of People Dead or Missing Close to the POTUS by 2010?
-Taq

329 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:59:16am

re: #316 galloping granny

That is a curious decision. What was her reasoning? Palin was always a straight up center right candidate, for all that the media tried to portray her as an ignorant hick. So she wasn't a big elitist who vacations in Europe. Big deal. She was nowhere near extreme in her views as Obama was in his positions.

And that's completely ignoring his "I'm a demigod, hear me roar!" over the top Cultishness. How could Palin scare her more than that?

330 pbird  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:59:32am

re: #86 galloping granny

Ye gods and little fishes! Doesn't anyone notice the similarity of that logo that is on most of those things to the SS lightning bolts?

Have the people of this nation completely and entirely lost their fucking minds?

Isn't that just a spoof?

331 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:59:52am

re: #328 Taqiyyotomist

Who will be the first Vince Foster? That is, who will be the first to die for Knowing Too Much?

Ohferpete'ssake.

Knock it off.

332 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:00:41am

re: #319 Kenneth

Something like that. If you could be specific as to which parts you consider to be off the range of rational thought? Or was it the whole thing?

333 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:01:15am

re: #286 Iron Fist
I'd frankly be surprised if ANYONE in the Republican Party would listen to a damn thing McCain may say from now on.
He's just too palsy with Dems - even during the campaign against THE MOST LIBERAL (actually socialist, the Democrats have no time for true liberals anymore, just ranting, raving far left moonbats) member of the Democratic Party, McCain had a tough time talkng tough about:
a)the economy was fine in 2005, and went into the toilet it 2008; what happened between 2005 and 2008, why the Democrats took control of Congress - congress - ya know the folks who actually appropriate the spending in the Federal Budget and who have ALWAYS pushed for a larger budget that proposed by President Bush;
b) the Democrats (wake up and pay attention Senator Dodd and Congressman Franks) did NOT provide oversight of the Treasury or the financial sector of America and abused FannieMae and FreddieMac for their own personal aggrandizement
c) there have been no 9/11's under President Bush in 7 consecutive years now
and of course many, many other areas where the Dems are concerned (and yes I know some Repub's were involved as well, but I talking about a CAMPAIGN HERE).

334 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:01:46am

re: #317 Kenneth

To be fair & accurate, Chamberlain did see much wrong with Hitler. He was mistaken that he could negotiate with him, but he did come to realize that war with Hitler was inevitable and that Britain needed time to get ready.

Which, in retrospect, was bad judgment. Britain wasn't ready for war in 1937... but neither was Germany.

335 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:03:15am

re: #302 nyc redneck

i wonder how michelle will behave in the white house today.
what will she do w/ her ingrained belligerence and hostility?
i think she needs a crash course in how to conduct herself as a "first lady"
w/ the focus on basic civility and graciousness.

I'm kind of hoping she inadvertently winds up on an episode of "Cops".

336 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:03:56am

re: #331 Occasional Reader

OT,

Have you priced Smith and Wesson recently? Man! I'm in serious sticker shock. A little snub nosed .38 goes for a thousand bucks?!? Suddenly Kimber looks a lot more reasonable. Just still out of the price range I can afford.

337 jemima  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:05:58am

#332

No one's going to die because they oppose Barry--that's so Clintonesque.
Anyone opposing Barry will be sent to a Joy-Joy camp. (Like the prison planet episode on Star Trek.) A friend of a friend of mine who lives in a southern state says land was bought about 18 months ago and much of the construction has already been completed. You can't see it from the road, and there is barbed wire around the perimeter, guards at the entrance--you'd expect that. But someone overflew it and reported back it's just massive.

/////

338 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:07:47am

re: #334 Occasional Reader

And Russia was no where near ready. The fact that Chamberlain knew there wouldn't be an Eastern Front had to weigh on his mind.

He was still wrong in his decision, I believe, but there were solid grounds for trying to have a peaceful solution to the problem of Nazi Germany.

339 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:08:17am

re: #325 Buck
Sorry Buck but it's a matter of public record that McCain had Palin's top staff advisors sent to her from his campaign because she had never put together a national campaign before.
That McCain hasn't criticised the continuing chopping away at Palin speaks volumes about a guy I once thought was decent and honorable.

340 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:11:02am

re: #336 Iron Fist

Have you priced Smith and Wesson recently? Man! I'm in serious sticker shock. A little snub nosed .38 goes for a thousand bucks?!?

No, I haven't been pricing revolvers. A grand for a snubbie?! Ridiculous. Get a baby Glock instead for six hundred.

341 realwest  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:11:32am

re: #334 Occasional Reader
Well I will say this: Germany was FAR MORE prepared for war in 1937 than were any of the allied nations, including Great Britain, France and the US.

342 WriterMom  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:13:20am

From media bubble to guns in a few easy peasy steps...

343 WriterMom  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:14:52am

re: #341 realwest

You're right. Germany's constant licking of its Versaille wounds/"humiliation" should have been taken more seriously by Britain and the USA. But of course, everyone is a genius in hindsight.

344 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:14:59am

re: #340 Occasional Reader

Yeah, it's hard to believe. That's the MSRP, so I'm sure you can find them cheaper, but I was shocked. I was figuring on $300-600 for a revolver. Maybe I can find something used...

345 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:16:53am

re: #342 WriterMom

Guns are up there with the three basic necessities of life: Bikes, Booze, and Broads. It's always easy to find a reason to talk about them.

:-)

346 pbird  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:17:23am

re: #135 FrogMarch

For me, the answer is NO.

Hey, that answer got me deleted Tues. night. Teehee.

347 Kenneth  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:31:39am

re: #332 Taqiyyotomist

The whole fricken' thing.

348 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:41:28am

re: #344 Iron Fist

Yeah, it's hard to believe. That's the MSRP, so I'm sure you can find them cheaper, but I was shocked. I was figuring on $300-600 for a revolver. Maybe I can find something used...

If you want something new, have you checked out Taurus? I'm still a little leery about them for autopistols, but I believe their revolvers have a solid reputation, and are a lot less expensive than S&W.

349 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:50:03am

re: #348 Occasional Reader

If you want something new, have you checked out Taurus? I'm still a little leery about them for autopistols, but I believe their revolvers have a solid reputation, and are a lot less expensive than S&W.

For instance: Taurus Model 605B2, .357 Magnum snubnose, 5-rounds. MSRP: US$403.

Brasil! Sim, pode!

350 Crusty  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 10:15:30am

re: #30 ploome hineni


I am gobsmacked, how McCain is allowing her to twist in the wind of these disturbing rumors

I am losing whatever respect I stll had for John McCan

I am too, but I'm jettisoning a light load as far as my prior respect for John McCain goes. More evidence of the Republicans newly found self-destructive gene.

351 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 10:23:36am

re: #349 Occasional Reader

Cool. Thanks. I tend to be a little leery of Taurus, not really for anything they've done. It's just trusting to lesser name brands has bit me before. One of my friends in high school had a Llama .45, and that was such a piece of shit. I may have to give the Taurus models a little closer look.

352 Sabnen  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 10:30:14am

re: #55 nonic

You conveniently didn't quote the whole article in your response to Juan Williams.

You did honorably link to it at the Wall Street Journal.

The very next paragraph starts . . .

'The onus now falls on individuals to take advantage of opportunities. That begins with keeping families together and taking responsibility for the twisted "gangsta" culture that celebrates jail time instead of schooling.'

I think Mr. Williams recognizes the short comings of public housing, food stamps, and welfare. Sesame Street, ho hum, white kids watched it too so they just kept ahead. Head Start? You can never spend enough on education. Imagine spending all the money we do on incarceration for education. The electorate would be smarter than it is today.

The article's first sentence . . . 'Barack Obama's election is both an astounding political victory - and the end of an era for black politicians.' . . . and that is what you have to keep your eye on . . . good-bye Mr. Jackson, good-bye Mr. Sharpton!

353 clayusmcret  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 10:36:21am

re: #234 newsjunkie_ky

And one mr. tom brokaw was on that show saying the exact same thing.

One and the same - it was Brokaw. I couldn't remember who and was too dejected to care enough to research who said it.

newsjunkie_ky, where in Ky? I'm originally from just east of Lexington.

354 Vancomycin  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 10:41:54am

re: #336 Iron Fist

OT,

Have you priced Smith and Wesson recently? Man! I'm in serious sticker shock. A little snub nosed .38 goes for a thousand bucks?!? Suddenly Kimber looks a lot more reasonable. Just still out of the price range I can afford.

Hell, get a springfield armory xd for around 600...revolvers shouldn't be anywhere near a grand.

355 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 11:01:30am

re: #335 Occasional Reader

I'm kind of hoping she inadvertently winds up on an episode of "Cops".

LOL,
screaming and pulling hair. "mean, mean , mean america"
and then the mug shot.
soooooooo possible.

356 DaddyG  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 11:24:25am

re: #182 JohnAdams

The term that is buzzing around in my head these last few days is "group-think." I think that this in part is what has afflicted the MSM.

I also believe that this is what fueled the worldwide pack of dogs ravaging of George W. Bush for the last 8 years. There are certainly points to criticize W, but it was so outrageously over the top as to be ridiculous.

More like Groupfeel. Not much thinking involved.

357 hazzyday  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:04:20pm

re: #4 Nevergiveup

Russia
Gorbachev calls on Obama to carry out 'perestroika' in the U.S.

[Link: en.rian.ru...]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry?

Does this mean set the table for the next Potus to be an alcoholic. So much so that in revulsion we elect a supreme ruler after that?

358 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:06:44pm

re: #354 Vancomycin

I've been looking at Charter Arm's .44 Special, and thought I'd compare it to a S&W. Wow. I agree that a revolver shouldn't run $1000. That's unreal.

I had a chance to get a Kimber about a year ago for $700. Had I known then what I know now, I'd have found a way to find the money.

359 hazzyday  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 12:08:34pm

re: #333 realwest

I learned a lot about Sen McCain from the election. And I like what I read about his history. I think he made a mistake in campaign financing. Good on Principle but that pays off in the long run not in the election.

And he introduced a real leader to America. Sarah Palin. Has cut billion dollard budgets and tossed corruption out the window. There is a reason the MSM doesn't want you to form a good opinion of her.

360 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:37:34pm

re: #357 hazzyday

Does this mean set the table for the next Potus to be an alcoholic. So much so that in revulsion we elect a supreme ruler after that?

During the last 8 years the MSM sure wanted us to believe we elected twice an incompetent boob and alcoholic, and sure worked overtime to make their wish and desire that Obama is the Supreme Leader becomes reality.

361 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 3:46:57pm

re: #323 rawmuse

Funny you should mention it, but last night I was having a discussion with a co worker who is a Lib, but one of the few people that can engage in a discussion and remain civilized, and he posited that FDR actually saved Capitalism from an all but inevitable Communist Revolution in the US, during Hoover's administration.

What think ye of that? I had never given it any thought. I know that the Commie movement was strong during the '30's but I never knew they were anywhere close to a successful revolution.

To put it mildly that is just so much manure. Sounds like someone wants to still keep the FDR myth of salvation alive. FDR presided over the largest government takeover of civilian power ever, and we came far closer to Socialist revolution with him than with any president before or since. Wilson started it, FDR implemented it, Carter and Clinton facilitated it, and Obama may be the one who completes it.

Just tell your friend he is full of horsefeathers with Hoover. ;)

362 William  Mon, Nov 10, 2008 8:00:34pm

Sad that Obamazoids in the "mainstream" media created this:

"I realized that I risked becoming Joe the Journalist, and not wanting my life vivisected by vengeful bureaucrats and fellow reporters, I stopped all interviews."


Journalists (and I use the term loosely) in the mainstream media have hurt journalism deeply, perhaps irreparably, in this election cycle.


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