Why?

I propose the term “black helicopter Republicans.”

We could just call them wingnuts like the LLL.

He really had to pull the Hitler card?

I propose the term “black helicopter Republicans.”

Are they affiliated with the "black helicopter Democrats".

I would prefer "idiots".

I kind of think the key to Republican success in the future is not behaving the way the left did towards Bush from 2000-2006. We really don't want to develop a full-blown case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

re: #3 freedombilly

Yeah, it seems a lot of Republicans are eager to go crazy.

Yup. Apparently he thinks its our turn to call everyone Hitler now.

Oy.

Thank U charles!

I still like "kookservative".

It's good to get these guys out in the open now so that they aren't a problem in four years.

I am a radical Centrist. oooh scary.

Semi-related:

Joy's Glass House: Behar Objects to Limbaugh's 'Thug' Comments

"View" co-host Joy Behar seems to have trouble seeing her own hypocrisy when issuing condemnations of other individual’s comments. On the November 10 edition, Behar objected to Rush Limbaugh, whom she baselessly labeled a "terrorist," labeling Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel "thugs." After Barbara Walters promised to question Rush on that issue in an upcoming interview, Behar exclaimed "he needs to apologize."

Joy Behar, under her own standards, ought to issue several apologies. Beyond the Rush Limbaugh "terrorist" smear, Behar also made such outrageous charges as labeling the Bush administration "liars and murderers," accused Republican presidential candidates of attending "Klan meetings," and called former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld a "Hitler type."

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After a commercial break, Barbara Walters opined that Rahm Emanuel could not possibly be a thug. Why? Because he was once a ballet dancer. When Elisabeth Hasselbeck, though distancing herself from Limbaugh’s comments, tried to add some perspective on Emanuel’s Fannie Mae connections, Whoopi Goldberg immediately cut off Elisabeth because they don’t yet "have all of our facts behind us."

[Transcript available at link]

re: #4 Mich-again

I have seen groups of low flying black helicopters here in SE Portland recently. I shit you not. It is rather strange.

re: #13 Mich-again
I'm a radical (reactionary?! Dang, can never get those terms correct) right leaning Centrist - Booga Booga!

re: #10 eddiespaghetti

I thought you got the boot?

...Alex Jonesin' for a conspiracy theory.

How about Paranoidiacs ?

labeled them "conservative" just does not sound right

that's a very "liberal" interpretation of reality, after all

re: #17 Noam Sayin'

I thought you got the boot?

Charles is a gracious and forgiving guy.

re: #4 Mich-again

Are they affiliated with the "black helicopter Democrats".

About one inch apart.

Joke while you can, grasshopper....

They're coming to take me away, haha, they're coming to take me away, hehe, to the funny farm...

re: #10 eddiespaghetti

Hey, welcome back.

re: #18 jaunte

...Alex Jonesin' for a conspiracy theory.

roflmao!

The Republicans need to position themselves as the party of adulthood.

Obama over-identified with the "youth" thing and with the impetuous need for "Change" and "new" solutions.

We are entering an era of few choices when it comes to governance. The demographic reality is clear. The new "solutions" are simply the sort of solutions that would have been conjured up in Lord of the Flies.

We need to identify with the cool rationality that adults show toward adolescents. Because that is what we are dealing with.

re: #17 Noam Sayin'

I thought you got the boot?

Not the boot just about 85 deleted comments on one thread. Stopped juuuuust in the nick time it seems.

Scary times!

2008 Veterans Day Teacher Resource Guide Something tells me Diatha Harris will not be using this in her classroom.

Just give him some leeway, he'll f*ck up sooner than later. It's a given.
But the whole RULE issue kinda bothers me.

re: #13 Mich-again

I am a radical Centrist. oooh scary.

So am I. My personal slogan: Extremism in the pursuit of moderation is no vice.

re: #4 Mich-again

Are they affiliated with the "black helicopter Democrats".

Where do you find this stuff?

Chopper-cons?

The very notion of a "A civilian force as powerful and well-funded as the US military" scares the crap out of me. Indeed, it alarms me that he would even think of it.

If that makes me a moonbat, oh well.

re: #26 karmic_inquisitor

I don't think identifying with anything in the past, is the way to our future. IMHO.

I want to get Dunbar and the "Loose Change" crew in a room together. Pour a cold drink, grab the popcorn, and watch the fun.

She also suggests Obama would seek to expand his power by declaring martial law throughout the country.

Too late! I heard that troops are being recalled from Iraq, to be directed by Cheney to take over the country.

Apparently the Kool-Aid crosses party lines.

re: #33 Sharmuta

Also good.

re: #15 Killgore Trout

I have seen groups of low flying black helicopters here in SE Portland recently. I shit you not. It is rather strange.

This is pulled from the Portland Indymedia site in the story about black helicopters. Maybe they are on to something? /

How does this relate to many military exercises for Nov 11, 2008, other nations' joint and separate military exercises planned for Nov. 11, 2008,?... and stocks speculation re to war or martial law and related contracts?... and preparations for martial law?... taking more taxdollar bailouts and no-bid contracts, escalation of oil wars?... Dick Cheney's repeated comments that worse-than-9-11 terrorist events are expected soon and planning for a change in the typical election and Jan. 20 hand-over?... before the last and the expected Nov. '08 anthrax attacks feds were given anthrax vaccines and experts who could blow the whistle were prosecuted or killed?... and the expectation that Dick Cheney and his cronies are not willing to let go of power with a new president? And that the tv sets and public airwaves or broadcast television will not be working for the people to publish news and how the Israeli intelligence are tapping and recording our calls and internet activities, while preparing for radioactive dirty bomb explosives blamed on ant-war dissidents, environmentalists, and Iranians?

re: #14 gmsc

Actually when Rush used the term "thug" he had taken it from a politico article quoting bill clinton using the term 'thugish' to describe The Zero.

These Republicans could also be called "Area 51 Precinct Workers"

re: #17 Noam Sayin'

I'm a nice guy, seriously. I have a good story too. Charles has a soft heart, although a tough outside.

re: #32 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Where do you find this stuff?

Indymedia is a treasure trove.

re: #36 Jack Reacher

Alas, there are nutjobs on both sides unfortunately.

To be honest, I have heard these same opinions on this blog over the last few weeks, except the one re: martial law.
But we have at least heard/made these same kinds of statements.
Everyone is pretty upset still from the loss to the Zero...takes time for the dust to settle.
Give folks time. Most will make it back to center.

If Osama Bin Laden is both sincere about his attack that is supposed to be bigger than 9/11, and smart, his crew will attack in some highjacked black helicopters.

State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar isn’t backing down from her claim that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is plotting with terrorists to attack the U.S.

Perhaps she failed to finish reading the headline:

Obama plans US terror trials ......

.....to replace Guantanamo

re: #4 Mich-again

Are they affiliated with the "black helicopter Democrats".

Not really "affiliated", more like heated rivals.

Good night lizards. Mornings coming soon.

feh

An interesting detail in the story of Texas State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar: she home-schools her own children, but makes decisions that affect those in public school.

re: #41 eddiespaghetti

No worries here, eddie. But I suspect you're on double-secret probation for a while.

Well, I hope everybody does realize that 'Black Helicopter Republicans' make up, at most, 1% to 2% of the republican voters, though the percentage seems to be higher among actual Republican elected officials (I seem to Remember this Republican dude named Ron Paul, among several others...). With the Dem's...about 110% Black Helicopter/Cool-aid Drinker/Barking Moonbat...In case you were wondering about the extra 10%...they are the dead ones who voted.

re: #44 Wishing

To be honest, I have heard these same opinions on this blog over the last few weeks, except the one re: martial law.
But we have at least heard/made these same kinds of statements.
Everyone is pretty upset still from the loss to the Zero...takes time for the dust to settle.
Give folks time. Most will make it back to center.

You haven't heard this crap from me. People who post comments here are the owners of their comments, not me.

This Broun guy is really wacky.

I bet he thinks Obama has connections to Weather Underground Communists...

or, he thinks Obama's mom, dad and grandpa were Communists.

or, maybe Obama had some Communist mentor training him for 8 years during his teens.

and other silly things.

re: #21 Charles

About one inch apart.

The radical right and radical left are separated by a margin as thin as the difference between 0.999...&#8734 and 1.0

I thought it was the "sky blue" helicopters we had to worry about? You know, the kind that require tin-foil helmets. Do they come in Republican version?

//

I live near O'Hare airport in Chicago - and you wouldn't believe what I'm hearing from my buddies who are "security" there - books 5 inches thick that they need to study to assist with the nightmare logistics of the egomaniac's, aka Obama, Presidency; already. Black helicopters are the least of it; and they ain't Republicans. We are in for an interesting 4 years.

re: #47 Spiny Norman

Not really "affiliated", more like heated rivals.

Nothing sparks a big knock-down-drag-out fight than minor degrees of difference.

re: #53 Charles

You haven't heard this crap from me. People who post comments here are the owners of their comments, not me.

I never suggested it was you, Charles.

re: #15 Killgore Trout

I have seen groups of low flying black helicopters here in SE Portland recently. I shit you not. It is rather strange.

I've seen them around the aiport in Aurora, Illinois. Black, unmarked helicopters, Five or six in a group. Absolute truth, and pretty eerie at that.

I thought the "black helicopter Republicans" got shooed out the door with Ron Paul. Perhaps not.

...but there’s really no need to Godwin ourselves out before the guy even takes office.

You know these goobers have been waiting for 8 long years for this. They just can't wait a minute longer.

I just don't see Broun's statement, quoted correctly or not, taken out of context or not, alarming to the point of labeleing him a loon IMHO. At worst, he was insensitve. At best, he was just making a historical parallel. Lets not eleiminate that he included it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” after the Hitler/ Nazi Germany part of the quote.

Personally, I dread the black helicopters. However, in my case, they're the black helicopters bringing tourists back to Vegas from the Grand Canyon, directly over my house!

/They usually come back about 6-7 at a time, depending on how tourism is.

re: #55 Mich-again

One of my polisci profs describes the political spectrum not as a grid, as usually represented, but rather a circle - both ends indeed do meet somewhere.

I swear the eyes of the stuffed moose at LL Beans here in Maine follows me around the room!

Funny story ...
The post office used to print "Home of President George and Laura Bush" on all the mail. My elderly Mother-in-law why George was reading her mail and putting his name on it, I just have to laugh.

re: #33 Sharmuta

Chopper-cons?

OK- I have been thinking of Chaka Kahn ever since I typed this.

Kooky stuff.

Obama doesn't even know what his own campaign is doing half the time, how is he supposed to organize ZOMGTERRARISM?

Earlier today, I was reminded of nuts who have gone so far in one direction that they go full circle. I was throwing out the trash and I walked past a neighbor's car with a bunch of brand-new stickers on it:

"RON PAUL for President 2008" (Ooh, a Ronulan!)
"How many LIVES per gallon?" (back bumper. Question, genius: How many jobs created per gallon?)
"Mass Media Equals Mass Deception" (in the window just below the Paul sticker. Oh, this guy has it all figgered out!)

None of them taken alone are necessarily wrong, but all together they paint kind of a strange picture... These were all on a new-looking compact Japanese sedan, not a Hybrid.

Somewhere we've lost our national grip. We need to get it back.

Somebody say black helicopter?

re: #50 jaunte

An interesting detail in the story of Texas State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar: she home-schools her own children, but makes decisions that affect those in public school.

Those poor kids.

re: #69 gman

LOL

re: #62 sattv4u2

It's still incredibly politically naive. Invoking the Hitler card automatically makes a lot of people throw you into the 'nutter' pigeonhole, forever.

Okey-dokey...(wow...let the fun begin..the crazoids have been set loose...I think the one about Obama plannin' a terrorist attack -- now that'd be a real inside job there -- is like a one-ups-manship to the 9/11 Truthers' claims...bizarre...like they're trying to see who can be the biggest loon...)

re: #62 sattv4u2

Do you really think this rhetoric advances our case?

re: #44 Wishing

To be honest, I have heard these same opinions on this blog over the last few weeks, except the one re: martial law.
But we have at least heard/made these same kinds of statements.
Everyone is pretty upset still from the loss to the Zero...takes time for the dust to settle.
Give folks time. Most will make it back to center.

the problem is while they are talking crazy, they give the left ammo with which to hurt us further. As Karmic Inquisitor put it, we have to be the party of adulthood. When we act crazy, we suffer for it far worse than the left.

re: #64 surfinbrant

One of my polisci profs describes the political spectrum not as a grid, as usually represented, but rather a circle - both ends indeed do meet somewhere.

Has anyone ever seen Ron Paul and Dennis Kuchinich in the same room?

Wow. These folks need to find some perspective and soon or they're going to drive themselves nuts.

I remember when the Republicans went through the desert - there were really only two conservative voices allowed on the air nationwide. One was an acerbic confrontational wingnut who made all conservatives look bad at several points in his carreer, and the other was so erudite and educated that most of what he said went right over America's heads. We certainly don't want to go back to the days of Joe Pyne and William F. Buckley types being the only conservatives given voice.

re: #72 esch

It's still incredibly politically naive. Invoking the Hitler card automatically makes a lot of people throw you into the 'nutter' pigeonhole, forever.

As I stated, insensitive at worst. Claiming that Broun intentionaly used the "Hitler Card" is a stretch, IMHO.

Again, he was attempting to frame Obamas call for a Civilian Security Force that MATCHES in numbers, funduing and strength the US Military in historical terms. How else should he have phrased it?

re: #77 Intrepid

Wow. These folks need to find some perspective and soon or they're going to drive themselves nuts.

Problem is they're going to take the rest of us down with them if we don't smack some sense into them.

Well, a dictator is a dictator and he has said so many things to indicate that he has the potential should everyone go along with his pompous plans, and I for one am filled with dread if the rest of the government and people follow him like lemmings. He gives me the chills and to make fun of people and call them wacko.... everyone knows here that given the chance and wil all his creepy associations, he will sell out the USA and that's a fact.

re: #74 Sharmuta

Do you really think this rhetoric advances our case?

no, but please see my #79

re: #50 jaunte

An interesting detail in the story of Texas State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar: she home-schools her own children, but makes decisions that affect those in public school.

I'll bet real cash money that their coloring books feature at least one drawing of Jesus riding a dinosaur.

/Maybe not. I plead Fake But Accurate, mmkay?

re: #70 Charles

More wackiness:
"Dunbar has a law degree from Regent University, the Virginia school founded and run by conservative televangelist Pat Robertson. She lists herself as an anatomy teacher but won't tell even the Texas Education Agency at which school she teaches".

[Link: www.statesman.com...]

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

the problem is while they are talking crazy, they give the left ammo with which to hurt us further. As Karmic Inquisitor put it, we have to be the party of adulthood. When we act crazy, we suffer for it far worse than the left.

The left no longer needs ammo. They attack anyway. Why spend time and effort attacking Republicans? We all have some "crazy uncles":)

re: #67 Sharmuta

OK- I have been thinking of Chaka Kahn ever since I typed this.

Tell me somthin' good!

re: #78 Thanos

I remember when the Republicans went through the desert - there were really only two conservative voices allowed on the air nationwide. One was an acerbic confrontational wingnut who made all conservatives look bad at several points in his carreer, and the other was so erudite and educated that most of what he said went right over America's heads. We certainly don't want to go back to the days of Joe Pyne and William F. Buckley types being the only conservatives given voice.

But that would make Nancy Pelosi soooo happy.

re: #63 gmsc

Personally, I dread the black helicopters. However, in my case, they're the black helicopters bringing tourists back to Vegas from the Grand Canyon, directly over my house!

/They usually come back about 6-7 at a time, depending on how tourism is.

That's thier cover story...And they aren't tourists...
/

I kind of missed the Black Helicopter crowd from the 90s. alot of fun X Files stories spawned from those conspiracies.

just remember, sometimes people who may seem crazy, might be a little bit right on something. Have to keep your eyes and ears open at all times, especially now because Obama has said some shady things and will have quite the mandate in the initial days of his office. He has no plans to govern from the center as the media claims, he wants a ram, bam, thank you ma'am style of policy making while he has the votes and goodwill of the people.

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

the problem is while they are talking crazy, they give the left ammo with which to hurt us further. As Karmic Inquisitor put it, we have to be the party of adulthood. When we act crazy, we suffer for it far worse than the left.

I read these same, or very similar statements here last week. I don't consider the things I read as crazy. People were assessing future possibilities based on past performance and patterns of behavior. And, by and large, the discussions were very *adult*, though every once in awhile we would get off a good pot shot. lol
I do want to be the *adult* party, but I certainly do not want to be the Hypocrisy Party.

"That's exactly what a guy who looked like those cats that looked like Hitler did in Nazi Germany . . ."

I prefer Comanches over Apaches when it comes to scare factor, personally.

re: #72 esch

Invoking the Hitler card automatically makes a lot of people throw you into the 'nutter' pigeonhole, forever.

Unless you yell it loud enough for several years, then you win.

re: #70 Charles

Those poor kids.

Someday a tort lawyer or politician, but I repeat myself, will discover a new class of victims who were home-schooled by their sub-intelligent parents, thereby dooming them to menial occupations. Which is not to say all home-schooled children are at a disadvantage, because surely they aren't. But lots of them are just children of lazy and/or stupid people who didn't care/thought they could do better.

re: #80 Sharmuta

Problem is they're going to take the rest of us down with them if we don't smack some sense into them.

They will not take us down. That's ridiculous.

Why do we let the left get away with attacking us any more?

re: #44 Wishing

To be honest, I have heard these same opinions on this blog over the last few weeks, except the one re: martial law.
But we have at least heard/made these same kinds of statements.
Everyone is pretty upset still from the loss to the Zero...takes time for the dust to settle.
Give folks time. Most will make it back to center.

As a former Army officer, I know that I was more than just mildly concerned about the Civilian National Security Force. The recent editing of the National Service "Draft" posting by the Obamatons over at change.gov actually gave me a sense of optimism - maybe these folks will actually look at the the law and the constitution before making their next pronouncement.

But it also cuts to the intrinsic dishonesty of the Obama campaign - they said whatever felt good without much thought as to how it could be implemented. It also showed how much the media was utterly derelict in doing their jobs since no Obama policy pronouncement has ever been subjected to rational scrutiny by them.

So folks on all sides are re-assessing. Much of what Obama promissed will be off the table soon. He will still give the New Left access to many levers of power via education grants and whatnot to keep the funds of the treasury supporting their system of indoctrination. And I don't think that last prediction puts me in the black helicopter camp.

re: #91 gmsc

That should be a subsection to Godwin's Law by now.

Dunbar's one of the boardmembers who supports creationist textbooks.

One thing that especially amuses me about the black helicopter crowd is that pretty much all helicopters look black when they're out in the daytime. They are small objects against a bright sky, OF COURSE THEY LOOK DARK... Especially if they're military and are painted olive green, or if they have blue stripes like news helicopters... Or even if they're orange, like rescue helicopters.

I must say that when I read this story my reaction was the same as CJ's. What bothers me is that for every Republican of this ilk, there are 10 liberals who have even stranger thoughts. Frank, Markey, Waxman, Wexel, etc. The list is endless. Yet we do not hear a word from the MSM.

re: #83 Pawn of the Oppressor

I'll bet real cash money that their coloring books feature at least one drawing of Jesus riding a dinosaur.

/Maybe not. I plead Fake But Accurate, mmkay?

Accurate and definitely not fake:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Well, here is a Shameless Spin-off Plug just for the Black Helicopter Republicans.

Obama to use Executive Powers for immediate Impact.

Somehow, I think he is going to get a rude awakening.

Black Helicopter doesn't work for me.

How 'bout "ConBats"?

OT: They're trying to steal Minnesota.

Why does every recount find more Democrat votes? When a nice, round, 100 ballots are "found", why is every one marked for the Democrat? Statisticians, please weigh in.

re: #88 HoosierHoops

That's thier cover story...And they aren't tourists...
/

Nah, for conspiracies, we have the unmarked plane with a single red stripe that takes off at 6:30 AM every morning, and returns at 4:00 PM every afternoon. It's known as "JANET Air", with JANET being an acronym for "Just Another Non-Existent Terminal".

/It's the plane that transports the workers to and from Area 51

re: #103 Globular Cluster

Connuts?

Conbats are the left-leaning equivalent, methinks.

re: #78 Thanos

I remember when the Republicans went through the desert - there were really only two conservative voices allowed on the air nationwide. One was an acerbic confrontational wingnut who made all conservatives look bad at several points in his carreer, and the other was so erudite and educated that most of what he said went right over America's heads. We certainly don't want to go back to the days of Joe Pyne and William F. Buckley types being the only conservatives given voice.

William F Buckley was an academic to be sure, but he was able to connect with the American people people well. He could speak our language and did it quite well. Easily one of the most influential leaders of the Modern Conservative movement which the todays Republicans are pissing away.

re: #79 sattv4u2

As I stated, insensitive at worst. Claiming that Broun intentionaly used the "Hitler Card" is a stretch, IMHO.

Again, he was attempting to frame Obamas call for a Civilian Security Force that MATCHES in numbers, funduing and strength the US Military in historical terms. How else should he have phrased it?

So be it, I disagree. He references Nazi Germany 3 separate times in his statement, while also trying to disavow the comparison.

Leave Nazi Germany out of the argument completely. We have plenty of other examples of revolution last century to draw from.

re: #89 RedVoter

I kind of missed the Black Helicopter crowd from the 90s. alot of fun X Files stories spawned from those conspiracies.

You could almost say that we have the X-Files BECAUSE of the black helicopter crowd.

re: #94 Mich-again

Someday a tort lawyer or politician, but I repeat myself, will discover a new class of victims who were home-schooled by their sub-intelligent parents, thereby dooming them to menial occupations. Which is not to say all home-schooled children are at a disadvantage, because surely they aren't. But lots of them are just children of lazy and/or stupid people who didn't care/thought they could do better.

I don't understand the attacks on home schooling at this site. Can someone please explain the rationale?

re: #84 jaunte

More wackiness:
"Dunbar has a law degree from Regent University, the Virginia school founded and run by conservative televangelist Pat Robertson. She lists herself as an anatomy teacher but won't tell even the Texas Education Agency at which school she teaches".

[Link: www.statesman.com...]

Good grief.

re: #90 Wishing

I read these same, or very similar statements here last week. I don't consider the things I read as crazy. People were assessing future possibilities based on past performance and patterns of behavior. And, by and large, the discussions were very *adult*, though every once in awhile we would get off a good pot shot. lol
I do want to be the *adult* party, but I certainly do not want to be the Hypocrisy Party.

Nor do I. All I'm saying is to be measured in our criticism of Obama and that has generally been measured here.

re: #70 Charles
Hers and the public school kids.

re: #100 pat

Very, very true. It's the total double standard which operates with the MSM -- yet it can't be changed...

re: #102 ggt

I hope he does; but who will it come from? The Congress - no; the Court - no. We do have the electorate, but they're easily swayed, as we have just found out.

Well there is a U-Boat living in Chicago...:) The U-505.

re: #95 faraway

They will not take us down. That's ridiculous.

Why do we let the left get away with attacking us any more?

Why do some on the right make it easier for them to do so?

re: #111 Charles

Yep.

At the end of Bill Clinton's second term the rumor was going around that he was going to declare martial law and refuse to vacate the White House. Didn't buy it then, either.

Charles - thanks for being vigilant about the conspiracy theories and for discouraging their growth. They accomplish nothing.

re: #113 realwest

REAL! Get my e-mail?

re: #60 Semi Cartman

I've seen them around the aiport in Aurora, Illinois. Black, unmarked helicopters, Five or six in a group. Absolute truth, and pretty eerie at that.

I used to live in Batavia, I cannot remember an airport in Aurora. Where is it?

re: #107 RedVoter

Could not agree with you more, WFB is a hero of modern intellectual conservatism.

re: #105 gmsc

Nah, for conspiracies, we have the unmarked plane with a single red stripe that takes off at 6:30 AM every morning, and returns at 4:00 PM every afternoon. It's known as "JANET Air", with JANET being an acronym for "Just Another Non-Existent Terminal".

/It's the plane that transports the workers to and from Area 51

From Denver Airport.

/bwahahahahaha

re: #101 Charles

Accurate and definitely not fake:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

So is that Triceratops giving Adam a blow job? Is that a garden of eden 3 way?

The things you see on the internet.

re: #104 Jack Reacher

OT: They're trying to steal Minnesota.

Why does every recount find more Democrat votes? When a nice, round, 100 ballots are "found", why is every one marked for the Democrat? Statisticians, please weigh in.

Because the Rethuglicans in black helicopters were only able to temporarily hide those democrat ballots.

re: #121 Summersong

I think it's really in Sugar Grove.

Obama has done (and keeps doing) a long list of things that should worry us all.

Reigning in the way these worries are described is a good goal, but it doesn't change the fact that Obama is still doing some horribly worrisome things.

People are criticizing his actual statements and his actual deeds.

They're very worrisome.

re: #109 Pawn of the Oppressor

You could almost say that we have the X-Files BECAUSE of the black helicopter crowd.

...and vice-versa.

/Leonard Nimoy and his "In Search Of..." series weren't exactly a big help, either

re: #110 faraway

My kids were home-schooled, and are doing fine. I don't think the criticism you're reading is a general attack.

re: #103 Globular Cluster

How 'bout "ConBats"?

anyone recommend Hover-Cons?

re: #124 karmic_inquisitor

So is that Triceratops giving Adam a blow job? Is that a garden of eden 3 way?

The things you see on the internet.

SMACK!

re: #107 RedVoter

I'm not dissing Buckley, my comment was more to point out that if we put the wingnuts forward, that's what we will get as the conservative view from the lamestreamers. They are happy to have people like Pyne on, who once hosted the KKK (for illustrative reasons of course...)

That's why I'm happy to have Charles point these fools and tools out so we know which voices we don't want representing the cause.

re: #108 esch

So be it, I disagree. He references Nazi Germany 3 separate times in his statement, while also trying to disavow the comparison.

Leave Nazi Germany out of the argument completely. We have plenty of other examples of revolution last century to draw from.

So the end of my #79 goes unanswered. (Again, he was attempting to frame Obamas call for a Civilian Security Force that MATCHES in numbers, funduing and strength the US Military in historical terms. How else should he have phrased it?)

re: #100 pat

I must say that when I read this story my reaction was the same as CJ's. What bothers me is that for every Republican of this ilk, there are 10 liberals who have even stranger thoughts. Frank, Markey, Waxman, Wexel, etc. The list is endless. Yet we do not hear a word from the MSM.

Exactly my point. When will we stop worrying about our few wacko friends?

Use them as a club to say "I'm glad you brought him/her up, because I wanted to ask you about William Jefferson, and Gov. Spitzer, and ..."

the kook is Obama for making the statement, not the guy who gives some historical comparisons and showed some balls by actually calling him on it unlike most. the guy has it exactly right, a powerful federal domestic security force is a dangerously bad idea. no good can come of it.

re: #72 esch

It's still incredibly politically naive. Invoking the Hitler card automatically makes a lot of people throw you into the 'nutter' pigeonhole, forever.

Unless, of course, you're talking about George Bush, in which case you may expect plentiful applause.
But I hope we won't sink to the Left's level of invective and hysteria.

127 Adina in Judea - by the posts here you would think every post prior to the election never existed. He is a worrisome guy and his associations are all anti-America. Way too many islamic people in his crowd and its his ideas that are wacky! Not wacky to have your blood run cold with a real cause to be paranoid. I'm sure a lot of Jews in Germany never thought what happened was possible.

It takes a lot of denial to deal with reality these days.

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

Sorry. I am depraved when it comes right down to it.

re: #84 jaunte

More wackiness:
"Dunbar has a law degree from Regent University, the Virginia school founded and run by conservative televangelist Pat Robertson. She lists herself as an anatomy teacher but won't tell even the Texas Education Agency at which school she teaches".

[Link: www.statesman.com...]

I'm going to take a guess:

Somewhere between D/FW and Arkansas. Northeast corner of the state. It can be really nice out that way... And the people can be really kooky, too.

I noticed on the NYT electoral map that the only area of the country that went more Republican this election was one patch out around Amarillo, and the stretch of hill country between north Texas and Kentucky. I wondered if somehow Obama had pissed off some kind of industry that's concentrated in that area (coal mining maybe?) but one person I mentioned this phenomenon to, suggested that it may have been some kind of racial or other paranoia in that part of the country. I know the Dems love that "Anti-Obama = RACISM" song, but I can't help but wonder if there's some grain of truth to it.

It's just speculation on my part, I can't say for sure, but the map is worth looking at.

re: #84 jaunte
Wait a minute - I'm most certainly not defending her, but how can she teach at public schools AND home teach her own kids?
And Someone writes her paychecks to her - and either hands 'em out or mails 'em out.
Maybe it's the Texas Education Agency exhibiting willful blindness here. She ought not be teaching ANYTHING in the Public Schools much less a science course (I'm assuming that's where a course in "anatomy" takes place, but maybe not).

re: #117 Sharmuta

Why do some on the right make it easier for them to do so?

In the immortal words of our former dear leader, "Stand Up, Stand Up and Fight".

re: #104 Jack Reacher

OT: They're trying to steal Minnesota.

Why does every recount find more Democrat votes? When a nice, round, 100 ballots are "found", why is every one marked for the Democrat? Statisticians, please weigh in.

After the first count, they know how many votes they need to win. Before that, they only have a good guess.

He who counts the votes . . .

a dictator? no. a collectivist? yes.
he won't undermine democracy. just the free market.

For right now, we are no longer campaigning. Our focus needs to be on making adjustments in the party and to the platform that will insure success in '10 and '12.
The connuts, or whatever we end up calling them, are a distraction from the job at hand.

re: #133 sattv4u2

I think that the examples of the USSR and PRC should be enough for anyone to see the dangerous parallels.

re: #126 ggt

I think it's really in Sugar Grove.

Thanks, ggt!

re: #136 wolfie

Granted. That kind of hyperbole WORKS with an ever-growing segment of our culture.

Seems to me that many (if not most) people are driven primarily by their emotions, regardless of which side of the political spectrum they may fall.

re: #80 Sharmuta

if we don't smack some sense into them.

Never gonna happen. Cognitive dissonance.

re: #140 realwest

That conflict between official duties and personal schooling preference doesn't make much sense to me. It's an elected position, and I'll be the voters just didn't have that bit of information. I'll look into it and see what I can come up with.

re: #141 faraway

In the immortal words of our former dear leader, "Stand Up, Stand Up and Fight".

Hard to fight off the left calling us kooks when the kooks get airtime and press quotes.

re: #11 Sharmuta

I still like "kookservative".

That's a good one. :)

re: #129 jaunte

My kids were home-schooled, and are doing fine. I don't think the criticism you're reading is a general attack.

My kids brave it out in public school, but I don't have any reason to attack any Mom that's brave enough to home school her kids. They should be honored here, not attacked. Shame on all of you that have done so.

re: #104 Jack Reacher

Why does every recount find more Democrat votes? When a nice, round, 100 ballots are "found", why is every one marked for the Democrat? Statisticians, please weigh in.

Because they couldn't even buy enough votes even in Minn. to elect that idjit Franken. That's why - oh, that and the DEMOCRATIC Secretary of State has been descibed by a number of Minn lizards as an "activist" type FOR the Democrats.

re: #153 faraway

My kids brave it out in public school, but I don't have any reason to attack any Mom that's brave enough to home school her kids. They should be honored here, not attacked. Shame on all of you that have done so.

Some of the home schooled are taught by their Dads.

re: #94 Mich-again

Someday a tort lawyer or politician, but I repeat myself, will discover a new class of victims who were home-schooled by their sub-intelligent parents, thereby dooming them to menial occupations. Which is not to say all home-schooled children are at a disadvantage, because surely they aren't. But lots of them are just children of lazy and/or stupid people who didn't care/thought they could do better.

Lots of them?
You are a complete ignoramus where this subject is concerned.

BTW, "lazy" parents who "don't care" are not likely to spend the time and effort to educate their kids at home when they can just shove them on a school bus and get free baby-sitting all day.

re: #154 realwest

It wouldn't surprise me one bit though if Franken somehow wins.

They did elect Jesse Ventura governor, after all.

re: #140 realwest

Wait a minute - I'm most certainly not defending her, but how can she teach at public schools AND home teach her own kids?
And Someone writes her paychecks to her - and either hands 'em out or mails 'em out.
Maybe it's the Texas Education Agency exhibiting willful blindness here. She ought not be teaching ANYTHING in the Public Schools much less a science course (I'm assuming that's where a course in "anatomy" takes place, but maybe not).

What are you talking about?

We have teachers that are liberals teaching our kids. We have teachers that don't even have kids, that are teaching our kids. Good grief.

How friggin' embarrassing.

First task of the GOP will be to get rational thought back to the forefront of the party.

How bizarre is it that after 8 years of flat global temperatures, and 2 years of cooling temperatures, the MSM and all of the world is worried about rising temperatures. A bit of heat = biologic expansion and extreme diversity at the expense of poor environments. Cold =death and extreme biologic speciazation. So who do both McCain and Obama believe in this crap?

Its not like Congressman Broun pissed on people in a bar.

re: #157 laZardo

and it's a nice side-chuckle to watching Predator - huh, 2 future governors...who knew?

re: #145 esch

I think that the examples of the USSR and PRC should be enough for anyone to see the dangerous parallels.

I see no difference between all three (again, as a historical footnote) in the context of refuting Obamas call for a Civilian Security Force thats as large, as well armed and as well funded as the US military. In that setting (and thats what Broun was talking about) please tell me the differencce between using the USSR (as you say is okay) and Nazi Germany (as you say is not)

re: #158 faraway

hey! i don't have kids and i'm a damn fine teacher, thank you.

re: #154 realwest

in a democracy it is not the voters who decide an election but the people who count the votes.
democracy sucks. but its the best we can think of.

re: #161 Racer X

Why I am not allowed in public.

re: #161 Racer X

Its not like Congressman Broun pissed on people in a bar.

Did he tell them it was raining?

re: #151 Sharmuta

Hard to fight off the left calling us kooks when the kooks get airtime and press quotes.

There lies the problem. Our kooks are not the heart of the problem.

re: #134 faraway

Exactly my point. When will we stop worrying about our few wacko friends?

Use them as a club to say "I'm glad you brought him/her up, because I wanted to ask you about William Jefferson, and Gov. Spitzer, and ..."

What you said.

re: #164 hermit

Yes, I don't think having kids is necessarily a prerequisite.

re: #119 Gearhead
Yeah but ya know we've heard the same crap about Bush declaring martial law more times than I can count.
Doesn't make this bullshit about Obama any more fair, but let's be honest: there are idiot shit for brains in the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Out here on LGF, however, we'd like to see them OUT of the Republican Party (course we'd like to see them out of the Democratic party too, but so far, at least, the Dem's don't seem to want to all that much).

re: #143 zionausi

a dictator? no. a collectivist? yes.
he won't undermine democracy. just the free market.

The One We've Been Waiting For has already undermined democracy. c.f., Ohio's registration fraud; Gary, Indiana's 105% registration; the near-total co-option of the media; the "truth squads" in Missouri's law enforcement (which at least backfired in that state). Don't think his machine isn't involved in getting Franken "elected" in Minnesota, either.

Black heliocopter Republicans are much smarter than the looney left: they'll letting Obama's soon-to-be controversial policies coming to fruition to the point when people like Broun (or Ron Paul!) has been vindicated for their warnings.

Few Germans did warned about Hitler before and after he took power. Were they accused of being "black Zeppelin Republicans" and dismissed for their "nonsensical rantings"?

Think about that.

re: #137 Teacake!

127 Adina in Judea - by the posts here you would think every post prior to the election never existed. He is a worrisome guy and his associations are all anti-America. Way too many islamic people in his crowd and its his ideas that are wacky! Not wacky to have your blood run cold with a real cause to be paranoid. I'm sure a lot of Jews in Germany never thought what happened was possible.

It takes a lot of denial to deal with reality these days.

Yeah, I agree.

A recent article in the Jerusalem Post suggested that the world may be going through the 1930s again. The author wasn't talking about Obama, but the article was warning us all that the 1930s could happen again.

We're all supposed to be watching for it (as in "Never again!")

Making fun of people for being perhaps over-concerned about the bad signs (including what Obama is doing) may be fun for some but we still have to make sure that the 1930s doesn't happen again.

There are almost 6 million Jews living in Israel now.

We have to keep watching. Everything.

Thanks.

re: #103 Globular Cluster

Black Helicopter doesn't work for me.

How 'bout "ConBats"?

I've always been fond of the classic
Tin Foil Hat Brigade.

re: #166 pat

Why I am not allowed in public.

LOL!

re: #170 jaunte

thank you - i want them in my life...just not in my house. LOL

re: #145 esch

I think that the examples of the USSR and PRC should be enough for anyone to see the dangerous parallels.

Ummmm... didn't next year's dear leader praise China profusely as a model to follow while campaigning?

re: #94 Mich-again

Someday a tort lawyer or politician, but I repeat myself, will discover a new class of victims who were home-schooled by their sub-intelligent parents, thereby dooming them to menial occupations. Which is not to say all home-schooled children are at a disadvantage, because surely they aren't. But lots of them are just children of lazy and/or stupid people who didn't care/thought they could do better.

Well, you got dinged down, but I've seen what you are talking about in action. The best solution would be vouchers. But sometimes their option is an intolerable public school.

re: #120 laZardo
Nope, I haven't received any e-mails from you today my friend. Can ya send it again? Or summarize it out here (unless it's too personal!)?

re: #177 hermit

You should see my woodwork.

Charles, Correction to the Wikipedia link. They're case sensitive. It should be

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #173 the_flying_pig

Black heliocopter Republicans are much smarter than the looney left: they'll letting Obama's soon-to-be controversial policies coming to fruition to the point when people like Broun (or Ron Paul!) has been vindicated for their warnings.

Few Germans did warned about Hitler before and after he took power. Were they accused of being "black Zeppelin Republicans" and dismissed for their "nonsensical rantings"?

Think about that.

OK, I thought about it. Now you should think about whether you're really prepared to argue that the United States is like Germany in the 1930s.

re: #173 the_flying_pig

Please. He hasn't taken office yet. Other choosing Sid Vicious as his Chief of Staff, all we get is hearsay. As for Emmanuel, he will soon learn that his act is not ready for prime time. The more he exposes himself, the bigger a dick we see him to be.

re: #168 faraway

There lies the problem. Our kooks are not the heart of the problem.

Our kooks ARE a problem, and waiting for the press to start playing fair is a fool's game.

re: #181 jaunte

You should see my woodwork.

um...is that what they call children now? wood - work?

re: #102 ggt

Well, here is a Shameless Spin-off Plug just for the Black Helicopter Republicans.

Obama to use Executive Powers for immediate Impact.

Somehow, I think he is going to get a rude awakening.

Either he is or we are.

re: #171 realwest

We can blame our kooks on ACORN's massive get out the vote effort:)

is says in revelations that a new ruler will rule before the end of the world..and that it takes 7 years for the world to end..it also says that the anti christ wont be of this religion meaning he wont be of the good..not christian.and he will cause more in our world than help...if u read closely in the bible then you should notice that it says the beast will rise from the sea...but it doesnt mean litterly the sea...a sea of politics is what it means..the ANTI CHRIST will come from politics...people think about it...DO NOT ELECT OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT! you will sadly redreat it if you do...

I saw this discussion on Topix. Believe it or not it rambled on after that first comment for 274 more comments. From listening to some of the callers on Hannity and talking to family and friends, this group represents more than just 1-2% of Republicans.

re: #161 Racer X

Its not like Congressman Broun pissed on people in a bar.

Classy guy!

re: #161 Racer X

Its not like Congressman Broun pissed on people in a bar.

I saw that, but the article didn't mention his party affiliation. Odd. I'll just have to take a wild guess, since he was doing to the people below him what Pelosi, Reid, and Obama will be doing to the rest of us.

How about Venezuela in 1999...?

re: #127 Adina in Judea
Well I'm concerned about just how socialistic Obama is, and I do worry about him dealing with foreign governments that don't have the US's best interest at heart, but let's face it: what he's done so far for Hope and Change is: create a seal for "President-Elect Obama" and appointed a bunch of beltway leftovers from the Clinton and Carter administrations.
I wish he'd stop effin' campaigning already and start at least THINKING about governing!

re: #186 hermit

Ha! No, literally. Four children will give the interior of a house a tremendous pounding over the years. Soon as one more leaves the nest I will begin repairs.

re: #179 legalpad

Well, you got dinged down, but I've seen what you are talking about in action. The best solution would be vouchers. But sometimes their option is an intolerable public school.

vouchers don't solve the issue of the federal government being in charge of schools - republicans will have to enter this issue sometime. return the schools to the people.

re: #191 Jack Reacher

I saw that, but the article didn't mention his party affiliation.

That usually means he's a democrat.

Basically my hope for Obama these next couple years is that he acts completely contrary to his nature so far, and that the Democratic ascendancy won't corrupt him.

It's more of a prayer than an expectation.

re: #183 Charles

OK, I thought about it. Now you should think about whether you're really prepared to argue that the United States is like Germany in the 1930s.

Lets see

A virtual political unknown getting swept into power following an unpopular administration CHECK
That unknown consolidating power in the other branches of gov't (Pelosi/ Reid ) CHECK
That unknown surrounding himself with rabid loyalists? CHECK
That unknown calling for and creating his own security force? !?!?!?!?!?

/just sayin

re: #195 hermit

vouchers don't solve the issue of the federal government being in charge of schools - republicans will have to enter this issue sometime. return the schools to the people.

Better still.

re: #194 jaunte

blessings on you and yours. I bow in the general direction of those who had the courage to raise the critters.

re: #193 realwest

covered

re: #162 hermit

Both of them were in Running Man, actually.

re: #79 sattv4u2

Again, he was attempting to frame Obamas call for a Civilian Security Force that MATCHES in numbers, funduing and strength the US Military in historical terms. How else should he have phrased it?

The problem is that there are no historical terms for a call like that which relate to this country. The mental imagery can thus be as outrageous as the comment is vague, but still be rational. The whole campaign was based on the blank slate onto which the voting public writes its own understandings. The upshot is that it's for better or worse, since the mass media infects everybody, not just the yayhoos; with all his rhetoric, not just the slogans.

re: #198 sattv4u2

Lets see

A virtual political unknown getting swept into power following an unpopular administration CHECK
That unknown consolidating power in the other branches of gov't (Pelosi/ Reid ) CHECK
That unknown surrounding himself with rabid loyalists? CHECK
That unknown calling for and creating his own security force? !?!?!?!?!?

/just sayin

Wow. You've convinced me. We're doomed. I guess I should start packing for the concentration camp.

Good grief.

re: #180 realwest

I'll send it to you again.

re: #183 Charles

OK, I thought about it. Now you should think about whether you're really prepared to argue that the United States is like Germany in the 1930s.

No way. Germany had better beer then, and now.
/

And the refs blew that call against the 49'ers.

re: #202 laZardo

LOL! i never noticed!

re: #204 Charles

scarey, huh!

During this election, when 0bama's lack of experience was brought up, the left would shout, "Sarah Palin! Sarah Palin!" Standard deflection- and of course, not an adequate answer to 0bama's lack of experience.

So, for the left to bring up a kookservative, we can't exactly say, "What about your kooks" because it still doesn't answer the question of our kooks.

It just doesn't fly with me as an excuse or logical answer to the question from any side of the political aisle.

re: #200 hermit

It's fun on balance. For a few years you have people around you who believe everything you say, until they change into people who believe nothing you say. Ultimately they begin to understand you were doing your best.

re: #144 Wishing
While I agree that we need to at least more clearly spell out what the Republican Party stands for, I think that's truly irrelevent unless the Republican Party can raise the kind of money Obama did.
If you get outspent some 7-1 in any presidential election (and especially one where the MSM is part of your campaign) you're gonna lose, no matter what you say you stand for.

re: #204 Charles

I guess I should start packing for the concentration camp.

Alex Jones says they've built some right outside of Austin.

re: #196 legalpad

That usually means he's a democrat.

I know. James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal has a running joke about the fact that news articles trumpeting politicians' legal troubles mention party affiliation in the first paragraph--if it's Republican. Otherwise, well, don't ask, don't tell seems to be the MSM's motto.

re: #150 jaunte
Yep, at least I HOPE the voters who elected her don't know that she home schools her own kids!

re: #209 Sharmuta

I stopped expecting logic and reason to be applied in congress/house two years ago... looking at applying same template to both plus executive branch as well starting in 2009...

re: #183 Charles

OK, I thought about it. Now you should think about whether you're really prepared to argue that the United States is like Germany in the 1930s.

Let me ask you this.

Even 3 years ago, could you have ever dreamed that we would end up with:

- a radical left President elected in the middle of a war?
- his name would be Hussein?
- his associates would include Marxists, ACORN, slum lords, and convicted felons?
- his pastor would say we were responsible for 9/11?

Would you have imagined that he said these things during his campaign:
- he would create a National Security Force as large as the Army/AirForce/Marines and Navy?
- he would dismantle our nukes?
- he would talk to Iran and NK?

re: #190 Charles

Classy guy!

I have been drunk in many bars, but never to the point where I would urinate on others. The idiot said he had "a drink". Right.

Yes, he is a democrat.

Not only was Hitler elected democratically...he ran on a platform of change.

re: #207 hermit

But wait! There's more!

So how are you NOT going to have kooks? We can't control everyone's behavior.

The question is what do we do in reaction to them. And the answer is that we criticize them when we think they are exaggerating or over-reacting; we admonish them when they use tasteless speech or are obnoxious; we denounce and excoriate them when they are truly vile. (IOW, we should do what the Democrats don't do.)

must hunt food...goodnight lizards!

re: #216 faraway

yes. its "change i can believe in"!

re: #219 laZardo

tooo sweet! thanks for the retro trip!

re: #121 Summersong

I used to live in Batavia, I cannot remember an airport in Aurora. Where is it?

Aurora Municipal Airport. On US 30 Right west of 47, actually Sugar Grove.

re: #211 realwest

While I agree that we need to at least more clearly spell out what the Republican Party stands for, I think that's truly irrelevent unless the Republican Party can raise the kind of money Obama did.
If you get outspent some 7-1 in any presidential election (and especially one where the MSM is part of your campaign) you're gonna lose, no matter what you say you stand for.

Spending caps maybe? I think the general public realizes that foreign money made its way to at least one candidate's coffers. Regulations are necessary in SOME form from preventing that, as the current legislation wasn't up to the task.
Also, Sarah Palin had very little money spent to publicize her appearances, yet she was drawing HUGE crowds.
I don't think we are doomed, financially, but I do believe we can prepare more intelligently.

Anybody Kayak?

re: #222 zionausi

yes. its "change i can believe in"!

"Change is inevitable... except from a vending machine." --tagline

re: #157 laZardo
Yeah, but the way I heard if from some friends in Minnesota, they voted for Ventura on a lark, never imagining he could win - so how could they take the same chance on Franken?
Moreover, although I understand the Dem's lust for that Senate seat, but how can THEY be crazy enough to want Franken sitting in the Senate and spouting off?

re: #185 Sharmuta

Our kooks ARE a problem, and waiting for the press to start playing fair is a fool's game.

You have completely missed the point. I will have to beat you over the head with it. The press doesn't care one way or the other whether we have kooks. Even if we have no kooks, they will beat us up.

We have to learn to stand up and stop being so defensive. We must stay on offense.

Ah well. Monday Night Football is over. I get to go home.

Night All

OT

Interesting link from "winston06" in the spin-offs...

Interesting times acomin'

re: #183 Charles

OK, I thought about it. Now you should think about whether you're really prepared to argue that the United States is like Germany in the 1930s.

The proper year to compare with America in 2009 would be Germany in 1933.

What was going on in 1933 was the consolidation of power and popular appeal.

re: #216 faraway

I'm not happy about Barack Obama's election, and yes, I did everything I could to expose his disturbing connections.

But if you think that means it's time for me to start spewing lunacy like we see in the links above, you're at the wrong blog.

re: #218 traderjoe9

Not only was Hitler elected democratically...he ran on a platform of change.

Knock off the Hitler comparisons, idiot. You just make yourself look stupid.

re: #230 sattv4u2

weet dreams, sattv4u2

re: #228 realwest

Maybe I'm confusing him with Lewis Black but he'd at least be good for a few laughs.

re: #219 laZardo

But wait! There's more!

Running Man - The only movie with two U.S. state governors in it!

re: #158 faraway
I'm talking about someone who is possibly certifiable, home schooling her own children while also teaching children in a public school.
What did you think I was talking about?

re: #235 NomadOfNorad

weet dreams, sattv4u2

WEET !?!?!

Is that a combination of SWEET and WET!?!?!

re: #232 Adina in Judea

The proper year to compare with America in 2009 would be Germany in 1933.

What was going on in 1933 was the consolidation of power and popular appeal.

Now you also?

re: #233 Charles
please charles please can we start spewing lunacy like we see in the links above?!? it makes me feel good despite losing!

re: #239 sattv4u2

WEET !?!?!

Is that a combination of SWEET and WET!?!?!

It's an old LGF inside joke. Someone mistyped "sweet" and it sorta caught on.

Fun with typos.

re: #234 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Knock off the Hitler comparisons, idiot. You just make yourself look stupid.

Sorry, buddy. I know better than to think these things aren't possible in America, and the sooner you realize that the better. Heck, like Obama says himself - "Anything is possibly in America." Anything.

Hitler came in on a wave of economic disaster and humiliation. The German press of the time was pushing the bad. Just like our press has been for the last 6 years. But the USA has not really been humiliated except in the minds of far left loons who consider the opinions of foreign far left loons paramount. And with economic news and finance available at ones finger tips, we all know that everyone is the same or worse off. Americans are quite comfortable. Venezuela or Cuba do not seem pleasurable, even if their rulers are entertaining from afar. Russia too cold and the food horid. There will be no communist revolution, and I do not believe Obama cares for one. Obama has already saud his far leftists ideas are subject to budgetary analysis. In other words he is a politician.

re: #215 anotherindyfilmguy

I stopped expecting logic and reason to be applied in congress/house two years ago... looking at applying same template to both plus executive branch as well starting in 2009...

I'm talking about us- not Washington.

re: #187 poopeedoo

I guess there has already been some changes. From what I gather, he published a website called ObamaChange.gov. It described sweeping changes. It seems the website has already been changed and the original pages thrown down the rabbit whole.

This site is suppossed to have the original pages. This one is an example of some of the changes.

I've only been half paying attention to this topic so I can't discuss it intelligently. I do think it shows that he/his advisors are finding the gears of government move much slower than they originally anticipated. We have checks and balances for a reason.

re: #242 NomadOfNorad

It's an old LGF inside joke. Someone mistyped "sweet" and it sorta caught on.

Fun with typos.

In that case, SWEAT DREAMS!

re: #240 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #232 Adina in Judea

The proper year to compare with America in 2009 would be Germany in 1933.

What was going on in 1933 was the consolidation of power and popular appeal.

Now you also?

We're supposed to be watching (as in "Never again!") even if it isn't popular.

There are almost 6 million Jews living in Israel now.

re: #161 Racer X Uh, the story says he was a councilman not a congressman and since it doesn't identify his political party I'll take a wild guess here and say he's a democrat.

re: #232 Adina in Judea

The proper year to compare with America in 2009 would be Germany in 1933.

What was going on in 1933 was the consolidation of power and popular appeal.

Comparing America in 2008 to Germany in 1933 is utterly ludicrous.

re: #197 Zimriel

The next 4 years he will be concentrating on getting re-elected.

re: #243 traderjoe9

Sorry, buddy. I know better than to think these things aren't possible in America, and the sooner you realize that the better. Heck, like Obama says himself - "Anything is possibly in America." Anything.

Whatever, dolt.

re: #226 eddiespaghetti

I guess that would be class 7 rapids.

re: #251 ggt

what did mccain say when he lost?
Oh bummer!

re: #232 Adina in Judea

The proper year to compare with America in 2009 would be Germany in 1933.

Ummmm . . . Nothing has happened yet in 2009 America.

re: #163 sattv4u2

I believe the Nazi comparison is overused to the point of eye-rolling. Everyone these days seems to be comparing their political opponent to Nazi's. I think it cheapens your argument if you resort to it. It's not an invalid argument, it's counter-productive.

re: #214 realwest

Maybe they have all grown up.
If this school board gig is a fulltime job, no way she could be home-schooling now.........unless her husband is most of it.

But as to her being on the school board without having kids in the public schools, that doesn't bother me. I see no reason why people without kids, for example, can't get involved. They pay as much for the state schools as anyone else does.

re: #250 Charles

Comparing America in 2008 to Germany in 1933 is utterly ludicrous.

Which was the point of my #240. Utterly ridiculous.

re: #247 gmsc

In that case, SWEAT DREAMS!

:D :D :D :D :D

/one wonders what one was doing to get all hot and sweaty in bed. :-O :-D

re: #218 traderjoe9

Not only was Hitler elected democratically...he ran on a platform of change.

He was actually validated by a coalition of moonbats in the Reichstag as a compromise candidate wasn't he? I'm personally thinking more in terms of Allende in Chile, but he was even a plurality type of guy.

re: #254 zionausi

what did mccain say when he lost?
Oh bummer!

McCain lost?!?!?
/To who?