MSNBC Responds to CNN’s Holograms
The cable media war to deliver the most entertaining news is being raised to a whole new level.
The cable media war to deliver the most entertaining news is being raised to a whole new level.
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:04:58am |
I learned more in this 1:56 clip then I ever learned from MSNBC and their lineup of useful idiots.
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bosforus Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:05:32am |
Well, CNN's "holograms" I believe is a more accurate description.
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:06:14am |
I only wish Olberman had made an appearance; maybe as the steak that was used to convince the tiger to try floating.
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bosforus Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:06:18am |
MSNBC is pretty entertaining as it is anyway, can you believe they're trying to pass as a reliable news source? Hilarious!
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vxbush Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:06:24am |
re: #4 bosforus
Well, CNN's "holograms" I believe is a more accurate description.
Actually, no. Based on what I learned, they digitally added her in. Wolf didn't actually see her, if I understand it right. She was just digitally added into the live feed.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:06:52am |
Heh. "Floating tigers in the news" - Rotating title.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:07:37am |
Oh! Holograms! I thought they said Hooligans.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:09:06am |
"He said Florida!"
Now that's just funny.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:09:32am |
How about floating tigers wearing Olbermann and Matthews masks. Be kinda cool to watch 'em eating each other.
Oh wait, already seen that.
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bosforus Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:09:33am |
re: #8 vxbush
Actually, no. Based on what I learned, they digitally added her in. Wolf didn't actually see her, if I understand it right. She was just digitally added into the live feed.
Right, hence my quotation marks for the word "holograms". :)
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snowcrash Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:09:42am |
Why not? Once the battleground states had a projected winner, what was left to watch? Tigers would be entertaining especially co-anchoring the election desk with Chris and Keith at MSNBC.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:00am |
Sigfried and Roy were ahead of their time.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:16am |
Perhaps MSNBC can get so "ahead of the curve" that they'll fall off the cliff...
Buh-bye!
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:20am |
Anyone at MSNBC talk to Sigfried and Roy? I'm sure they'd have some insightful comments, especially the floating tigers. /heh
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wright1 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:20am |
Now that Olbermann has signed on for 4 more years I am going to take a wild guess that his ratings are headed for the basement since there is no more BDS to talk about. He starts criticizing his party, he will lose his looney left viewers.
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:54am |
Show me a tiger eating Olberdouche - and you've just won me over as a MSNBC viewer.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:12:51am |
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:13:35am |
As for CNN's hologram - I'd much rather watch a computer generated personality on CNN than Wolf Blitzer. He's awful. Truly awful.
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agtiger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:14:23am |
FrogMarch writes:
} Show me a tiger eating Olberdouche - and you've just won me
} over as a MSNBC viewer.
Wouldn't that be a legitimate case of cruelty to animals? ;)
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Son of the Black Dog Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:14:34am |
re: #2 Jetpilot1101
I learned more in this 1:56 clip then I ever learned from MSNBC and their lineup of useful idiots.
Which is exactly nothing. Right?
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:14:35am |
Not that I watch CNN anymore, mind you. I haven't even watched FOX since the election.
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jester6 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:14:55am |
re: #8 vxbush
Actually, no. Based on what I learned, they digitally added her in. Wolf didn't actually see her, if I understand it right. She was just digitally added into the live feed.
I tuned out most of the media - and all of CNN - years ago. What are the CNN holograms?
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:15:33am |
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Son of the Black Dog Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:16:00am |
Flying Tigers might be appropriate for some network, just not for MSNBC.
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:16:06am |
re: #30 Intrepid
Not that I watch CNN anymore, mind you. I haven't even watched FOX since the election.
Neither have I with the exception of FOX Business. I do enjoy watching ANALysts eating crow.
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Macker Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:16:57am |
re: #34 Jetpilot1101
Neither have I with the exception of FOX Business. I do enjoy watching ANALysts eating
crowshit.
There, fixed that for ya!
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filetandrelease Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:17:42am |
Tony would fit right in with those flakes.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:17:43am |
LOL - the Tags for this post are "MSNBC, Media, Holograms, Tiger".
We actually have had threads in the past about holograms? And tigers?
That cracks me up for some reason.
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jester6 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:18:05am |
I found the answer to my own question. Since many of us probably don't watch CNN here is a clip of the hologram episode.
"Help me Obi Wan, you're my only hope"
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bosforus Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:18:39am |
re: #31 jester6
I tuned out most of the media - and all of CNN - years ago. What are the CNN holograms?
A false projection of reality. Oh wait, you're asking about CNN not MSNBC.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:19:06am |
The tigers will be more objective.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:19:45am |
re: #31 jester6
I tuned out most of the media - and all of CNN - years ago. What are the CNN holograms?
I am SO glad you asked!
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:20:08am |
re: #38 jester6
I found the answer to my own question. Since many of us probably don't watch CNN here is a clip of the hologram episode.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
"Help me Obi Wan, you're my only hope"
OK, that was bordering on stupid. Maybe it was YouTube but it sure looks like she was edited in.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:21:19am |
re: #38 jester6
I found the answer to my own question. Since many of us probably don't watch CNN here is a clip of the hologram episode.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
"Help me Obi Wan, you're my only hope"
Man o man, what a waste of money. I suppose the O is subsidizing?
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thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:21:46am |
re: #43 Jetpilot1101
OK, that was bordering on stupid. Maybe it was YouTube but it sure looks like she was edited in.
The crappy quality of the recording serves to emphasize the editing. Watched live, particularly on a high-resolution TV, I could see how this might look more convincing. Nevertheless, it's one of the most amusing stunts I've ever seen in the business.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:22:02am |
I knew it had all gone to hell when I saw the war "Logos" used during the reporting of Desert Storm.
...here we are now, entertain us...
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pat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:22:19am |
I had imagined a broadcast of Obama chanters in a Zen trance for some reason. with Mathews in a corner looking vacant as drool dripped off his chin.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:22:45am |
re: #45 thedopefishlives
The crappy quality of the recording serves to emphasize the editing. Watched live, particularly on a high-resolution TV, I could see how this might look more convincing. Nevertheless, it's one of the most amusing stunts I've ever seen in the business.
Still and all, the money spent on 35 cameras to make this happen would have been better spent...REPORTING/INVESTIGATING.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:23:14am |
Early on, my wife worked in television news, and actually had her own talk show in San Diego. She, and a good number of colleagues, resigned when the station brought in consultants - who immediately started implementing "happy talk" news.
The hologram is just another nail in the coffin.
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thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:24:05am |
re: #48 Wishing
Still and all, the money spent on 35 cameras to make this happen would have been better spent...REPORTING/INVESTIGATING.
Oh, I agree. While I didn't actually see this incident, or know of it until the illustrious Charles brought it up, it brings to mind the Chinese fauxtography of the fireworks over Beijing during the Olympics opening ceremonies. Why waste money on an elaborate hoax when you can do something much more productive for less cost?
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Tumulus11 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:24:16am |
'Now Rajah, if Obama can't win Pennsylvania ...'
[Tiger attacks.]
Lesson:
'Never doubt the One.'
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:26:12am |
Yes, of course. Superior technology in graphics and imaging must mean they are doing a better job at their main purpose, which is to find the truth and report it fairly to The People.
/
Is that why CNN wasted time on this? To make it appear they were smarter and therefore had better info?
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filetandrelease Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:27:26am |
It would have been more entertaining had she been naked. I think.
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zenren Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:28:17am |
Just think how much their ratings would improve if they hired some actual journalists that the public could respect and trust.
I wonder how long it will take before they realize that a good portion of the public is tired of the dog-and-pony shows. (Okay, maybe I would tune in at least once to watch levitating tigers.)
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turn Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:28:47am |
Come to think about it, O is really nothing more than a sophisticated hologram created by the MSM. The sophisticated part can be debated but not the holo part.
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J.S. Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:29:11am |
re: #45 thedopefishlives
Yeah. And the whole stunt was based on CNN's deceiving the public. Maybe that's really what CNN is all about -- deceit. Blitzer standing there, claiming he's seeing Jessica, whereas in reality, he sees nothing...(CNN was not using actual holography -- it was all a hoax.) How the MSM has descended...nothing more than fraud artists.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:29:30am |
re: #50 thedopefishlives
Oh, I agree. While I didn't actually see this incident, or know of it until the illustrious Charles brought it up, it brings to mind the Chinese fauxtography of the fireworks over Beijing during the Olympics opening ceremonies. Why waste money on an elaborate hoax when you can do something much more productive for less cost?
The CNN election night hologram is symbolic of CNN's actual investigative news reporting: not real, just the appearance of reality. All surface, no depth. Style over substance.
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FrogMarch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:30:02am |
re: #28 agtiger
FrogMarch writes:
} Show me a tiger eating Olberdouche - and you've just won me
} over as a MSNBC viewer.Wouldn't that be a legitimate case of cruelty to animals? ;)
yes. bitter fat head probably tastes terrible.
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rightside Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:30:37am |
re: #62 FrogMarch
I would classify it as mostly empty, with gristle.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:30:42am |
re: #52 Iron Fist
If they report what's really happening they will harsh the audiences' mellow. This would be bad. It could go as far as stimulating an original thought in their heads.
This must never happen.
"harsh the audiences' mellow" - LOL!
Yep, must never happen. Must never happen. Must not think. Thinking hurt.
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jester6 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:31:11am |
re: #49 subsailor68
Early on, my wife worked in television news, and actually had her own talk show in San Diego. She, and a good number of colleagues, resigned when the station brought in consultants - who immediately started implementing "happy talk" news.
The hologram is just another nail in the coffin.
A new generation of consultants are bringing in "If it bleeds it leads" pioneered by WSVN-TV in Miami. It is stunningly stupid and drags the whole market down.
After WOIO-19 here in Cleveland adopted this model all the other stations tried to catch up. One of the most pathetic examples of sweeps week bottom feeding was an "investigative" report that caught some poor unemployed schlub masturbating to Internet porn at the local library.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:31:14am |
Mindless people who watch CNN believe what they see, pay no attention to what they hear unless it has "and Bush sucks" attached to it. Very effective mind control tactic for the shallow of mind.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:31:40am |
re: #53 Silhouette
Yes, of course. Superior technology in graphics and imaging must mean they are doing a better job at their main purpose, which is to find the truth and report it fairly to The People.
/
Is that why CNN wasted time on this? To make it appear they were smarter and therefore had better info?
The trouble is that there are so dang many Americans who eat this stuff up..."Oooo, Prettty, shiiiny." Gah.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:31:52am |
re: #67 midwestgak
Mindless people who watch CNN believe what they see, pay no attention to what they hear unless it has "and Bush sucks" attached to it. Very effective mind control tactic
forover the shallow of mind.
fixed it
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:32:36am |
re: #66 jester6
A new generation of consultants are bringing in "If it bleeds it leads" pioneered by WSVN-TV in Miami. It is stunningly stupid and drags the whole market down.
After WOIO-19 here in Cleveland adopted this model all the other stations tried to catch up. One of the most pathetic examples of sweeps week bottom feeding was an "investigative" report that caught some poor unemployed schlub masturbating to Internet porn at the local library.
Oh yeah! I live about 65 miles west of San Antonio, get their local news, and the "if it bleeds it leads" is in full force down there. But, to be honest, you've got me beat (so far) with the schlub story.
:-)
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thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:33:46am |
re: #60 Intrepid
The CNN election night hologram is symbolic of CNN's actual investigative news reporting: not real, just the appearance of reality. All surface, no depth. Style over substance.
While I know you're quite right, it still saddens me. Are there really so few real intellectuals out there in America who value the substance and who actually CARE about something? Have we collectively descended so low as to be mindlessly entertained by such cheap parlor tricks? I must admit, I'm not liking the answers to those questions, based largely on the voting results from a week ago.
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DistantThunder Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:34:39am |
It's basically going to become third world TV. In Guatemala the news had the latest genocide update (the army was killing mayan peasants) and so we'd see the endless close-ups of the mutilated body, the blood on the floor, the sobbing relatives, more of the entrance wounds.
Quite brutalizing, which I think was the intention.
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:35:05am |
re: #66 jester6
Yeah. I have to go to the library too. Wife checks my history.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:35:39am |
OT - but I just read about BHO's peeps leaking the details of the two Presidents' conversation. What a F*cking schmuck that Barry is!
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:36:54am |
I am watching " The Bridge on the River Kwai" on the AMC channel. They are running Military/Veteran related movies all day. But HBO and other "Premium" channels are ignoring it. As usual. Bunch of Liberal assholes!
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outsidephilly Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:38:00am |
re: #31 jester6
I tuned out most of the media - and all of CNN - years ago. What are the CNN holograms?
So, someone doesn't actually need to be present, to say the word, 'Present'
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Taqyia2Me Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:38:12am |
re: #77 Nevergiveup
I am watching " The Bridge on the River Kwai" on the AMC channel. They are running Military/Veteran related movies all day. But HBO and other "Premium" channels are ignoring it. As usual. Bunch of Liberal assholes!
"W" is not yet available to HBO...for their "patriotism".
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jester6 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:38:18am |
re: #75 Russkilitlover
OT - but I just read about BHO's peeps leaking the details of the two Presidents' conversation. What a F*cking schmuck that Barry is!
I don't know if this episode speaks to BHO as much as it speaks to the people he is choosing for his team.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:38:49am |
re: #75 Russkilitlover
OT - but I just read about BHO's peeps leaking the details of the two Presidents' conversation. What a F*cking schmuck that Barry is!
It's his handlers that will be doing this schmuckiness for the next four years.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:38:56am |
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Tuesday that during peace talks over the past year, Israel had proposed concessions to him regarding Jerusalem, but he rejected them because they were partial.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
I'd criticize his negotiating methods, but they do seem to work? What a world?
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Crusty Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:39:21am |
They could use holograms to make it look like Sarah Palin said and did things that she never actually said or did.
Wait, what am I talking about, they do that now with anonymous McCain advisers...
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:39:43am |
OT, but I just checked the Zero's site to see what he had to say about guns, hunting etc. and I came across this priceless quote:
Obama will ensure that wetlands receive the protection they deserve and will provide a bright future for waterfowl.
Do you think he promised them jobs? or plasma TVs?
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:39:50am |
This is absolutely hilarious! Who the heck made this video?
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:40:08am |
re: #83 Crusty
They could use holograms to make it look like Sarah Palin said and did things that she never actually said or did.
Wait, what am I talking about, they do that now with anonymous McCain advisers...
Good one Crusty. Updinged ya.
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Taqyia2Me Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:40:29am |
re: #81 midwestgak
It's his handlers that will be doing this schmuckiness for the next four years.
Meanwhile, anyone wanna bet anything that President Bush never says anything substantive to BHO again?
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The Hoopster Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:40:46am |
re: #69 midwestgak
fixed it
Good afternoon Gak..
Lousy weather we are having...
Hope you are doing well.
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Salem Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:41:17am |
Great. Obama is going to be privy to all our military secrets and he can't even keep a conversation with Bush to himself. I think the American people have made a horrendous mistake.
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:41:22am |
re: #83 Crusty
They could use holograms to make it look like Sarah Palin said and did things that she never actually said or did.
Wait, what am I talking about, they do that now with anonymous McCain advisers...
And changing quotes like, "I pray I do the right thing," to "I do the right thing," making a commonplace phrase into a nutty statement.
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outsidephilly Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:41:47am |
re: #87 Taqyia2Me
Meanwhile, anyone wanna bet anything that President Bush never says anything substantive to BHO again?
President Bush is a man of integrity, and he has lots of self-control, that's for sure!
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:03am |
Well I'm outta here for lunch all y'all - hope you have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
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turn Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:11am |
re: #87 Taqyia2Me
Meanwhile, anyone wanna bet anything that President Bush never says anything substantive to BHO again?
No bet here, fool me once shame on you ... fool me twice shame on me.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:14am |
re: #91 lawhawk
Nintendo's "duck hunt" in every nest.
I suppose if I say the man is a loon...well...ya know...
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Kerr Avon Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:38am |
OT: Recount hasn't even started yet, but Franken mysteriously gaining votes:
link
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:38am |
re: #89 Salem
Great. Obama is going to be privy to all our military secrets and he can't even keep a conversation with Bush to himself. I think the American people have made a horrendous mistake.
If he can use it, he'll leak it.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:54am |
re: #88 HoosierHoops
Good afternoon Gak..
Lousy weather we are having...
Hope you are doing well.
Hey Hoosier!
Ya, grey and cold and wet.
I'm doin' very well. How about you?
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Abu Lahab Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:55am |
Lizards, just asking, do you see the Veterans Day logo when you access [Link: www.google.com?...] Was that real?
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Crusty Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:43:24am |
re: #66 jester6
A new generation of consultants are bringing in "If it bleeds it leads" pioneered by WSVN-TV in Miami. It is stunningly stupid and drags the whole market down.
After WOIO-19 here in Cleveland adopted this model all the other stations tried to catch up. One of the most pathetic examples of sweeps week bottom feeding was an "investigative" report that caught some poor unemployed schlub masturbating to Internet porn at the local library.
Reminds me of when the NBC affiliate here in Chicago brought in Jerry Springer to do nightly commentary on the 10 o'clock news. That lasted about 2 weeks and half the news team quit shortly afterward.
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:43:49am |
Dammit, Charles, I thought that was serious until I started the vid.
>%P%-P
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:44:09am |
re: #71 thedopefishlives
While I know you're quite right, it still saddens me. Are there really so few real intellectuals out there in America who value the substance and who actually CARE about something? Have we collectively descended so low as to be mindlessly entertained by such cheap parlor tricks? I must admit, I'm not liking the answers to those questions, based largely on the voting results from a week ago.
Remember back a few years ago when a network, I'm thinking the Comedy Channel, polled young people (young adult range) about where they get their news from? Quite a large number answered, "Jon Stewart".
The dumbing down of America began years ago and we're now reaping the consequences of it. Our schools have adopted political correctness over critical thinking skills. Being entertained over being educated.
I think a great deal of it comes from too many parents allowing their children to be babysat by the boob tube or video games. "Who was voted off Survivor this week?" has replaced "Who survived the Great Depression, and how did they do it?"
When Hollywood entertainers are viewed as respected political pundits, you just know we've gone off the rails somewhere.
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:44:10am |
re: #100 Iron Fist
I don't think he should give the Obamessiah the time of day if he asks for it. Every time I think we've hit a final bottom for how low he can go, Obama surprises me and digs deeper and deeper.
He's kind of like the stock market in that.
I see we are having another UP day eh? Sheesh, is 7000 going to be bottom?
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:44:53am |
re: #99 Abu Lahab
Yeah its real, Charles had an entire thread about it!
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vxbush Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:45:34am |
Personally, I just want to have the technology interface of "Minority Report" or better yet, "Iron Man." Ooooh, that stuff puts a tingle up my leg.
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The Hoopster Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:45:38am |
re: #98 midwestgak
Hey Hoosier!
Ya, grey and cold and wet.
I'm doin' very well. How about you?
I'm doing great.. I posted this at 8am this morning..But a friend called me this morning..His house burnt down last night.
Imagine having 4 kids and living in a motel for the next 6 months.
Everybody is alright though and that's the most important thing.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:45:47am |
re: #101 Crusty
Reminds me of when the NBC affiliate here in Chicago brought in Jerry Springer to do nightly commentary on the 10 o'clock news. That lasted about 2 weeks and half the news team quit shortly afterward.
From where in the city do you hail? North, South, East or West? Suburbs?
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Abu Lahab Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:45:56am |
re: #106 realwest
Yeah its real, Charles had an entire thread about it!
I read it about it here actually, but when I go to google, there is nothing there! That's why I got confused.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:46:14am |
re: #105 Iron Fist
100%. And we are going to be paying for it not just the next four years, but more like the next forty.
I hate the thought knowing that the rest of my life will be dealing with Obama policy side effects... unless they are good side effects... I can only 'hope'.
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cathypop Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:46:37am |
re: #84 Wishing
OT, but I just checked the Zero's site to see what he had to say about guns, hunting etc. and I came across this priceless quote:
Obama will ensure that wetlands receive the protection they deserve and will provide a bright future for waterfowl.
Do you think he promised them jobs? or plasma TVs?
Bright future for waterfowl?
My lovely stainless steel grill
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:47:14am |
re: #110 Abu Lahab
I dont think the Canada google has anything. Maybe Google only shows the GOOD website in Rep. states?
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outsidephilly Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:47:16am |
re: #108 HoosierHoops
I'm doing great.. I posted this at 8am this morning..But a friend called me this morning..His house burnt down last night.
Imagine having 4 kids and living in a motel for the next 6 months.
Everybody is alright though and that's the most important thing.
I'm sorry, good to know everybody is alright . . . ,
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:21am |
re: #110 Abu Lahab
I read it about it here actually, but when I go to google, there is nothing there! That's why I got confused.
Go to the page, then hold down the Shift key and click the refresh button. That should bring in the "fair-weather troop support" logo.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:39am |
The people now running America think that Tigers and all threats are a video joke. Their concept of heroes also comes from television. The gruff but PC cop from Picket Fences is what they expect. A thoughtles shield for their posturing. Remember the "business man" negotiating with the terrorists in Die Hard?
Way off Topic I was wondering how we can be saved from the oncoming train wreck. Only by Divine Providence and not by human agency. Best hope we have is this scenario. The Electoral College submits it’s votes in December 15th and the votes are opened and counted in Congress on January 06th. If Obama passes away before December 15th then his pledged Electors can vote for someone else. We can speculate on whether it would be Hillary or someone else. If Obama’s prior unhealthy lifestyle were to catch up with him after the 15th but before the certification by Congress (remember that he never released his medical records) then we would have an interesting situation. In theory Joe Biden would be the elected Vice President and John McCain would be the elected President. The only sensible way to resolve the problem would be for McCain to take the oath of office and immediately resign. That would make Biden the President. If the Democratic Governor of Arizona promised to immediately reappoint McCain to the Senate the crisis would be amicably resolved.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:50am |
re: #108 HoosierHoops
I'm doing great.. I posted this at 8am this morning..But a friend called me this morning..His house burnt down last night.
Imagine having 4 kids and living in a motel for the next 6 months.
Everybody is alright though and that's the most important thing.
Being uprooted is hard to take when it's done voluntarily, but being forced into this nightmare - Godspeed to your friend and family.
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Abu Lahab Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:49:08am |
re: #114 Wishing
I dont think the Canada google has anything. Maybe Google only shows the GOOD website in Rep. states?
Is it possible that they are showing the logo for users with US IP addresses only? That would be so weird since they usually show their logos on [Link: www.google.com...] for the whole world.
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opnion Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:49:54am |
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:50:42am |
re: #113 Iron Fist
I'm not a market analyst, but I'll say that I hope 7000 will be the floor. That will be bad enough. OTOH, maybe I'll have money to invest when it does start back up. I keep trying to find the silver lining, but I just don't see it right now.
I'm with you on that. We're sitting on cash right now too, with no idea where to put it. OTOH, went to a seminar where the moderator recommended looking at stocks in companies that provide things people NEED, rather than WANT.
One example he used was long distance trucking. His point was that, in down times, trucking companies don't buy new rigs, but they still need to focus on maintaining existing ones. So, he said, it might be good to look at companies that provide parts and maintenance services on existing rigs, rather than companies that build new ones.
Interesting.
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Maximu§ Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:50:47am |
This is what happens when Children are running the news service...I expect Sponge Bob Square Pants to step in and give us the latest terror news soon.
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Abu Lahab Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:51:12am |
re: #116 victor_yugo
I emptied my cache and refreshed the page and even used a different browser. Nothing!
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:51:13am |
re: #83 Crusty
They could use holograms to make it look like Sarah Palin said and did things that she never actually said or did.
Wait, what am I talking about, they do that now with anonymous McCain advisers...
A lot of brouhaha about Palin leaker on Hotair and newsbusters. Possible hoaxer and about MSNBC and Fox swallowing the bait.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:51:21am |
re: #114 Wishing
I dont think the Canada google has anything. Maybe Google only shows the GOOD website in Rep. states?
I was thinking that somehow they could have your IP logged and your 'browsing' history on file, there would then be some sort of 'algorithm' that will detect if you have 'conservative' leanings versus 'lefty'...then that will determine the google picture. Lefty's get a picture of Stalin laid to rest on the Google logo...
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:51:54am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
Disrespect to Bush would please the Obamabots.
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debutaunt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:51:56am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
I couldn't understand why 0 insulted Nancy Reagun either.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:52:04am |
re: #121 Iron Fist
We're still paying for Carter. Hmm, I wonder if Obama is going to stay around and fuck things up when his time in the Whitehouse is up? That's a cheery thought.
Year of him chiming in on 'policy'... sheesh...
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Maximu§ Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:52:26am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
I bet that the last time President Bush reaches out to Obama and his staff.
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Crusty Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:52:44am |
re: #109 midwestgak
From where in the city do you hail? North, South, East or West? Suburbs?
My hail falls on the North side, heart of Bugs Moran's territory. You?
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The Hoopster Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:53:00am |
re: #124 Abu Lahab
I emptied my cache and refreshed the page and even used a different browser. Nothing!
You don't live in the united states do you?
Google doesn't want to offend your sensabilities...
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:53:18am |
re: #123 Maximu§
This is what happens when Children are running the news service...I expect Sponge Bob Square Pants to step in and give us the latest terror news soon.
If it turns out to be alarming news from Sponge Bob, expect some people to build pineapple shaped bunkers...
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turn Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:53:30am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
Rush speculates it makes him look agressive and ready to hit the ground running, you know really putting all these critical issues in Bush's face.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:53:38am |
re: #122 subsailor68
I'm with you on that. We're sitting on cash right now too, with no idea where to put it. OTOH, went to a seminar where the moderator recommended looking at stocks in companies that provide things people NEED, rather than WANT.
One example he used was long distance trucking. His point was that, in down times, trucking companies don't buy new rigs, but they still need to focus on maintaining existing ones. So, he said, it might be good to look at companies that provide parts and maintenance services on existing rigs, rather than companies that build new ones.
Interesting.
I've been looking closely at agriculture stocks.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:53:43am |
re: #129 Oh no...Sand People!
Year of him chiming in on 'policy'... sheesh...
No, I have it on good authority that when his time in the White House is over, he's going to start a foundation called "Sub-Prime Mortgages for Humanity."
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Crusty Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:53:43am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
I don't know what the upside is but, with an American news media that won't hold you accountable for a damned thing you do, there's no downside.
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opnion Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:54:41am |
re: #128 debutaunt
I couldn't understand why 0 insulted Nancy Reagun either.
That lookeed like he was trying to spin the stupid thing that he said " I have spoken to the living presidents" into a joke.
Violating a confidence does not help him.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:55:18am |
re: #100 Iron Fist
I don't think he should give the Obamessiah the time of day if he asks for it. Every time I think we've hit a final bottom for how low he can go, Obama surprises me and digs deeper and deeper.
He's kind of like the stock market in that.
Where is his bottom?!?! Oh, wait...that didn't come out right.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:55:25am |
re: #135 SummerSong
I've been looking closely at agriculture stocks.
Yep, the moderator of this seminar would have agreed with you - but he'd probably recommend focus on agri-co's that provide foodstuffs that people NEED to have to survive. But he'd definitely have given your idea a thumbs up.
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Abu Lahab Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:55:34am |
re: #132 HoosierHoops
You don't live in the united states do you?
Google doesn't want to offend your sensabilities...
This is the first time google does such a thing. They show their holidays for the whole world usually. I just tried to access google using a proxy, (yes, I'm not in the US) and it showed the google. If you access from abroad the US, it shows you nothing. This is so ridiculous from google. What's wrong with them?
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calvin coolidge Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:56:16am |
Maybe they could replace that crusty Keith Olberman with the ever energetic Helen Thomas. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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opnion Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:56:19am |
re: #134 turn
Rush speculates it makes him look agressive and ready to hit the ground running, you know really putting all these critical issues in Bush's face.
It could be that, as simple as dissin Bush.
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Macker Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:56:35am |
re: #100 Iron Fist
Very soon we'll see the following LGF Headline: "Obama Hits Bottom, Digs"
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:57:00am |
re: #139 Iron Fist
Interesting idea. Years and years ago I got a stock tip from one of the guys I was working with doing sheetmetal work (making hoods for restuarants for the most part). He was talking about this new company that had just started going national. he was sinking boatloads of money into it. I, of course, was so poor I couldn't buy a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out, so I wasn't able to act on the tip.
Oh, the company in question was Home Depot. The guy who gave me the tip is probably retired by now.
Too true! At the seminar, Home Depot (and Loewes) were two he recommended looking at - for about the same reason as the trucking deal. In down times, folks may not buy new homes, but they still need to maintain and repair the ones they have.
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Spider Mensch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:57:55am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
it's the 800 lb gorilla sitting in the sofa on the otherside of the room...The Man and his associates are FRIGGIN A-HOLES!
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Athos Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:58:00am |
re: #121 Iron Fist
We're still paying for Carter. Hmm, I wonder if Obama is going to stay around and fuck things up when his time in the Whitehouse is up? That's a cheery thought.
I think that this one, with his hubris, will be very concerned about his legacy - so he will do everything he can to adjust the legacy. This goes double if he is replaced by a conservative in the White House. Just as Carter has little respect for the traditions of the office - I doubt that Obama or his closest staff will as well...as evidenced by their inability to keep a private conversation private.
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turn Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:59:36am |
re: #139 Iron Fist
Interesting idea. Years and years ago I got a stock tip from one of the guys I was working with doing sheetmetal work (making hoods for restuarants for the most part). He was talking about this new company that had just started going national. he was sinking boatloads of money into it. I, of course, was so poor I couldn't buy a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out, so I wasn't able to act on the tip.
Oh, the company in question was Home Depot. The guy who gave me the tip is probably retired by now.
Just back from the Korean war my father in law (rest his soul) got a job running a delivery truck for the Rainbow Bread Co. A year or two later a good friend of his approached him about coming to work for him at some start up cash register company.
He asked his dad what he should do and he told him keep the bread job, everybody needs a loaf of bread hardly anybody needs a cash register. He turned the offer down, the company was NCR!
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:59:42am |
re: #141 subsailor68
Yep, the moderator of this seminar would have agreed with you - but he'd probably recommend focus on agri-co's that provide foodstuffs that people NEED to have to survive. But he'd definitely have given your idea a thumbs up.
So, stay away from the argula stocks.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:00:16am |
Meanwhile, there are now reports suggesting that Obama will carry on some of Bush's policies, including the counterterrorism stuff.
Obama will have to rehabilitate Bush in order to defend his adoption of Bush’s policies. He can’t say that Bush went far beyond necessity and the constitution and then turn around and do the same thing. No, he will patiently explain that it turns out that Bush had most things right and that we need to respect the wise decisions that he made and to finish the work he started.
Heh. That's not going to sit well with the BDS crowd. Not.at.all.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:00:18am |
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The Hoopster Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:00:34am |
re: #142 Abu Lahab
This is the first time google does such a thing. They show their holidays for the whole world usually. I just tried to access google using a proxy, (yes, I'm not in the US) and it showed the google. If you access from abroad the US, it shows you nothing. This is so ridiculous from google. What's wrong with them?
I guess it just doesn't matter to them that our Vets have saved the world several times over..and have spilt american blood in many foreign countries.
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Athos Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:00:46am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
1. Paying the press back for all of the assistance.
2. Because they can...
3. After all, it was only Dubya - doesn't count. /Obamabat
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:01:18am |
re: #153 Russkilitlover
So, stay away from the argula stocks.
LOL! But, when you think about it, don't the Leftists NEED their arugla?
:-)
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formercorpsman Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:01:37am |
re: #120 opnion
You would think. Obviously, this whole subject, the election, etc occupies most of our minds these days.
The only logical conclusion I can come up with, is that he really does not posses all the qualities that are sung of praises to him, and he is modeled to be what the inner circle wants him to be.
Seriously, in this day and age, being in camera and scratching your middle finger with your face, twice? Especially after the attention the first episode received?
Or the lipstick on a pig? Everyone knew what he was getting at. Even better, quoting Reagan on the campaign trail to your benefit, and then coming off with a low class swipe at his wife in one of his latest attempts at living up to the hype.
I think he really feels some righteous wind behind him. He went through 2 years campaigning, and the media gave him a pass.
I won't put all of the bad taste on him, because I am not convinced he is totally in control. People he has decided to make bedfellows with, I would put on the level of the U.N. shoe incident, but this is all that cool inside the beltway stuff.
The only one who I think might have enough sense to understand how this can hurt them is Biden. Moreover, I think this is his reasoning for making the statements he did. He is great at putting his foot in his mouth, but I think he still might know the premonition of what can hurt them in office.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:01:49am |
re: #151 turn
Just back from the Korean war my father in law (rest his soul) got a job running a delivery truck for the Rainbow Bread Co. A year or two later a good friend of his approached him about coming to work for him at some start up cash register company.
He asked his dad what he should do and he told him keep the bread job, everybody needs a loaf of bread hardly anybody needs a cash register. He turned the offer down, the company was NCR!
Back in the day, my brother''s father in law was going to put money into one of two 'electronics' companies. He put it in 'prodigy' as opposed to his second option, 'microsoft'...
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:02:32am |
The cable media war to deliver the most entertaining news
What ever happened to "Naked News"? Are they still around?
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The Hoopster Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:02:40am |
re: #156 buzzsawmonkey
I, for one, am just arugula guy.
It's alright to eat healthy Buzz!
/ oh..could you pass the grey poupon?
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Buck Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:02:55am |
re: #120 opnion
Can't figure out why Obama & his people would violate a confidential conversation with Bush. What could the upside be for them?
Now Bush wont tell him about the "PRESIDENTS BOOK".
So secret that there has only been one multi-million dollar international movie about it...
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mattm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:03:29am |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:03:45am |
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:03:48am |
re: #162 Occasional Reader
What ever happened to "Naked News"? Are they still around?
Ratings started sagging.
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Athos Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:04:02am |
re: #154 lawhawk
I'm sure MoveOn.org will be thrilled with things like this in return for their $88M 'investment'.
Of course, Barry ran to the center in order to win the election...and will not likely knee-jerk to the left immediately in its aftermath - or immediately after the inauguration. I'm sure one of the lessons the Clintonistas are teaching him is to make the move slowly - under the radar screen.
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:04:06am |
re: #107 vxbush
Personally, I just want to have the technology interface of "Minority Report" or better yet, "Iron Man." Ooooh, that stuff puts a tingle up my leg.
Where's my flying car, dagnabit!
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:04:27am |
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Wishing Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:04:30am |
re: #127 SummerSong
Disrespect to Bush would please the Obamabots.
And what was the leak? That they disagreed. Ho hum...
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Athos Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:04:53am |
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:05:01am |
Okay, I'm just a dumb hillbilly. I've laughed about the arugula jokes but I must admit that I have no idea what arugula is. Anybody want to explain it to me?
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:05:15am |
re: #162 Occasional Reader
What ever happened to "Naked News"? Are they still around?
I heard the 'The View' was going to try something like that when 'Rosie' was still on...
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opnion Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:05:22am |
re: #164 Buck
re: #120 opnion
Now Bush wont tell him about the "PRESIDENTS BOOK".So secret that there has only been one multi-million dollar international movie about it...
If I was Bush, I would really fix him. I would not tell him who has the best Chineese take out in the neighborhood.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:05:31am |
re: #176 VMA211Dan
Okay, I'm just a dumb hillbilly. I've laughed about the arugula jokes but I must admit that I have no idea what arugula is. Anybody want to explain it to me?
Think "designer lettuce".
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:06:00am |
re: #147 subsailor68
Too true! At the seminar, Home Depot (and Loewes) were two he recommended looking at - for about the same reason as the trucking deal. In down times, folks may not buy new homes, but they still need to maintain and repair the ones they have.
Not to mention the foreclosure houses going on the market within the first six months of '09. Once people are hit with the cluebat of reality and discover that Obama is not going to pay their mortgages for them, "For Sale" signs will be everywhere.
It will be the homes of those who wisely shopped Home Depot and Lowes and replaced fixtures and painted walls that will sell first.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:06:09am |
re: #176 VMA211Dan
It's a fancy European leafy green that rich people eat.
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Pyrocles Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:06:18am |
I was expecting Obama to refuse to shake Bush's hand, in a show of solidarity with his moonbat base.
re: #127 SummerSong
Disrespect to Bush would please the Obamabots.
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Abu Lahab Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:06:56am |
re: #157 HoosierHoops
I guess it just doesn't matter to them that our Vets have saved the world several times over..and have spilt american blood in many foreign countries.
I find that stupid and offensive from them. They can refrain (thought I would not understand why) from showing the logo on Google local pages, like [Link: www.google.ca...] or [Link: www.google.ru,...] etc but they are not showing it on Google.com even. (Which is the US based one)
I just tried accessing google using a proxy that is based in the US, and the logo is there actually. So yes, the logo has been made for US users only, as if it's something to hide from the world.
Look what holidays google celebrated before on their international .com site
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:07:13am |
re: #167 MandyManners
Ratings started sagging.
Well, we should all start watching, then! We need to lift and support Naked News.
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Buck Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:07:44am |
re: #161 Oh no...Sand People!
Back in the day, my brother''s father in law was going to put money into one of two 'electronics' companies. He put it in 'prodigy' as opposed to his second option, 'microsoft'...
I remember many years ago being invited to a special investors meeting at the telephone company. They explained the new 1-900 numbers. You place ads in newspapers telling people they can hear jokes, or news, or something. You charge $1 a call, with an answering machine to give out the sports scores or whatever..
I left the meeting thinking it was the stupidest idea I had ever heard...
Of course if they had told me that I could hire women to talk dirty to guys live, and charge $5 a minute...
Well... I would be retired now.
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:07:53am |
re: #159 subsailor68
LOL! But, when you think about it, don't the Leftists NEED their arugla?
I don't think leftists know the difference between need and want.
That's part of what makes them leftist.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:07:53am |
re: #183 buzzsawmonkey
and the flossier breeds of lettuce.
Now, I've heard of mint-flavored floss... but lettuce?
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The Hoopster Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:07:56am |
re: #176 VMA211Dan
Okay, I'm just a dumb hillbilly. I've laughed about the arugula jokes but I must admit that I have no idea what arugula is. Anybody want to explain it to me?
Fancy Lettuce...
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jaunte Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:08:35am |
Basil and arugula pics:
[Link: weblog.clagettfarm.org...]
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:23am |
re: #174 buzzsawmonkey
But it doesn't upset PETA as much.
Ah, which reminds me; I've recently seen stickers placed around town with a target motif on them and the words "Watch your back if you wear fur" printed on them.
Feel the love... "progressive" style.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:24am |
Not sure if this has been posted but... are you freakin' KIDDING me?!
No audit for Obama
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:24am |
re: #190 Occasional Reader
Now, I've heard of mint-flavored floss... but lettuce?
Isn't mint-flavored lettuce just mint?
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Spider Mensch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:26am |
re: #176 VMA211Dan
Okay, I'm just a dumb hillbilly. I've laughed about the arugula jokes but I must admit that I have no idea what arugula is. Anybody want to explain it to me?
lettuces gay brother.
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Athos Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:27am |
re: #189 Silhouette
I don't think leftists know the difference between need and want.
That's part of what makes them leftist.
It's neither what they need or want - it's all about what they get - particularly if they don't have to earn it.
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Miss Trixie Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:46am |
re: #77 Nevergiveup
I am watching " The Bridge on the River Kwai" on the AMC channel. They are running Military/Veteran related movies all day. But HBO and other "Premium" channels are ignoring it. As usual. Bunch of Liberal assholes!
"The Guns of Navarone" is currently playing and I looked up just in time to see Lady Liberty with the Studio name emblazoned above her and da*m near had a heart attack when I read
O B A M A
instead of
C O L U M B I A
Yeesh. maybe it's time to take a break from politics for a while - I just may be losing my mind. =O
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:51am |
Every time I see the word "arugula," I think it's the sound a klaxon makes.
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Kenneth Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:10:52am |
Charles,
Thanks for adding the poppy to the LGF banner. That's a small gesture, but it means so much. God bless you.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:11:01am |
re: #181 Killgore Trout
It's a fancy European leafy green that rich people eat.
Aka rocket. A weed that grows wild here in California. In the spring you can pick up "arugula" by the hand fulls pretty much throughout the state.
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:11:21am |
re: #89 Salem
Yeah, we did. 52% of the 60% that voted are lost.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:11:36am |
re: #194 PAgirlinNC
Not sure if this has been posted but... are you freakin' KIDDING me?!
No audit for Obama
Must not make our Lord and Highness look bad before he begins his 'rule'.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:11:46am |
re: #195 Silhouette
Isn't mint-flavored lettuce just mint?
Hm, good point.
And where do they make dental floss, anyway? Is it woven at some sort of Mill of the Floss?
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:12:05am |
re: #131 Crusty
My hail falls on the North side, heart of Bugs Moran's territory. You?
Is "My Pie" pizza parlor one of your haunts? Great thin crust pizza. Maybe that's were your nic . . . :)
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:13:13am |
Thanx all. To me Romaine at Olive Garden is exotic.
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:13:19am |
re: #194 PAgirlinNC
The fix was in months ago. Where was Don King in all of this?
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:13:42am |
re: #207 Occasional Reader
Hm, good point.
And where do they make dental floss, anyway? Is it woven at some sort of Mill of the Floss?
Frank Zappa had a farm in Montana where he used to grow it. I hear Moon Unit runs it now...
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cathypop Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:13:47am |
re: #176 VMA211Dan
Okay, I'm just a dumb hillbilly. I've laughed about the arugula jokes but I must admit that I have no idea what arugula is. Anybody want to explain it to me?
Have you ever had steamed dandylions? YUCK! Arugula and dandylions are in the same family.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:13:55am |
re: #194 PAgirlinNC
Not sure if this has been posted but... are you freakin' KIDDING me?!
No audit for Obama
From your link:
Obama is expected to escape that level of scrutiny mostly because he declined an $84 million public grant for his campaign that automatically triggers an audit and because the sheer volume of cash he raised and spent minimizes the significance of his errors.
Moral of the story: If you're going to cheat... cheat BIG. Got that, kids?
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saylorfam Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:14:52am |
I mentioned it on al earlier thread but it bears repeating. Applebees is providing Veterans with a free meal today. They request a photo of you in your uniform or a copy of your DD214 or a military ID. I just had a very nice lunch, bacon cheese burger, and it cost just the Tip to the Waitress.
Call your local Applebees to ensure your local restaurant is participating in this offer.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:14:54am |
re: #194 PAgirlinNC
Not sure if this has been posted but... are you freakin' KIDDING me?!
No audit for Obama
Just took a look and found this line in the article:
...because the sheer volume of cash he raised and spent minimizes the significance of his errors.
What the He$$? It would seem to me that the "volume" along with the suspicious sources would "trigger" an audit, not make it more unlikely.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:15:18am |
re: #209 buzzsawmonkey
In other musings, it is interesting that someone is willing to threaten to murder human beings on behalf of animals.
It shows that person's priorities.
To the ultra-"progressives", people are always the problem.
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:15:27am |
re: #210 VMA211Dan
Thanx all. To me Romaine at Olive Garden is exotic.
My hometown grocery store had tacos and spaghetti in the "foreign food" aisle.
And I talked them into carrying eggplant just for me. So of course I felt honor-bound to buy one every week. Boy did I get sick of eggplant.
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Miss Trixie Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:15:40am |
re: #200 goddessoftheclassroom
Every time I see the word "arugula," I think it's the sound a klaxon makes.
Diet Pepsi out the nose! goddess owes me a new monitor.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:17:10am |
re: #200 goddessoftheclassroom
Every time I see the word "arugula," I think it's the sound a klaxon makes.
YEAH! As you can tell by my nic, I've heard that sound many, many times, and you've hit it exactly!
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:17:47am |
re: #214 Occasional Reader
Moral of the story: If you're going to cheat... cheat BIG. Got that, kids?
Thrown Under The Bus is rapidly being replaced by Swept Under The Rug.
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PAgirlinNC Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:17:48am |
re: #214 Occasional Reader
The RNC, moderate Dems, and everyone else that doesn't want to see this country go down in flames had better get their sh$t together and quick.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:17:59am |
re: #209 buzzsawmonkey
In other musings, it is interesting that someone is willing to threaten to murder human beings on behalf of animals.
It shows that person's priorities.
On the plus side; these clowns almost seem to be trying to help me come up with excuses to increase my gun collection.
(Okay, my "collection" is currently a grand total of two, but you get the point)
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:18:37am |
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Crusty Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:18:43am |
re: #178 opnion
If I was Bush, I would really fix him. I would not tell him who has the best Chinese take out in the neighborhood.
If I were Bush I'd make up a story about a bag of cash hidden in the walls somewhere and watch Barack and Michelle tear the White House apart looking for it.
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mattm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:19:12am |
re: #22 FrogMarch
Show me a tiger eating Olberdouche - and you've just won me over as a MSNBC viewer.
Nibbling will win me over.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:19:37am |
re: #218 Silhouette
My hometown grocery store had tacos and spaghetti in the "foreign food" aisle.
And I talked them into carrying eggplant just for me. So of course I felt honor-bound to buy one every week. Boy did I get sick of eggplant.
LOL
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:19:41am |
re: #230 Crusty
If I were Bush I'd make up a story about a bag of cash hidden in the walls somewhere and watch Barack and Michelle tear the White House apart looking for it.
Great idea...and we could get Geraldo Rivera to cover it live!
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:19:54am |
re: #213 cathypop
Have you ever had steamed dandylions? YUCK! Arugula and dandylions are in the same family.
I've heard you can make an alcoholic beverage from Dandilions. Never had it though. I guess ferment them. Anybody heard of this?
Sorry, way off topic.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:20:02am |
re: #231 mattm
Nibbling will win me over.
If he gets scared enough to wet his pants, no biting necessary, that will win me over.
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debutaunt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:00am |
re: #234 VMA211Dan
I've heard you can make an alcoholic beverage from Dandilions. Never had it though. I guess ferment them. Anybody heard of this?
Sorry, way off topic.
Dandilion wine.
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:02am |
re: #233 subsailor68
Great idea...and we could get Geraldo Rivera to cover it live!
psst!...(that was moved to Al Capone's vault in Chicago)...don't tell him.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:06am |
Here's a good one (HotAir):
Surprise: FEC plans to audit McCain’s campaign funds — but probably not Obama’s
There are days when you just don't want to get out of bed.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:16am |
re: #234 VMA211Dan
I've heard you can make an alcoholic beverage from Dandilions. Never had it though. I guess ferment them. Anybody heard of this?
Sorry, way off topic.
Yep. Lots of folks (when I was growing up) made dandelion wine. I had some when I was a kid, and it wasn't too great. (Course that coulda' been the "vintner", a little old lady who lived two farms over.)
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:33am |
re: #224 subsailor68
YEAH! As you can tell by my nic, I've heard that sound many, many times, and you've hit it exactly!
"ARUGULA ARUGULA
DIVE! DIVE! DIVE!"
Brilliant!
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:46am |
re: #236 buzzsawmonkey
Is this the Dandy-Lions and tigers thread? (so bad I made myself groan)
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:22:05am |
That hologram thing was funny.
Have to admit I was disappointed when I learned it wasn't real. For a while there I held hope that our personal jet packs were rolling off the assembly line.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:22:26am |
re: #234 VMA211Dan
I've heard you can make an alcoholic beverage from Dandilions. Never had it though. I guess ferment them. Anybody heard of this?
Sorry, way off topic.
You can ferment anything organic. Even meat. Sounds yucky, but it will ferment too.
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:22:29am |
re: #234 VMA211Dan
I've heard you can make an alcoholic beverage from Dandilions. Never had it though. I guess ferment them. Anybody heard of this?
Sorry, way off topic.
Dandelion wine. I think one can make alcohol about of just about anything.
My favorite was a recipe for "pumpkin beer."
1) Hollow out a pumpkin
2) Fill with sugar
3) Put under your bed
4) You'll know when it is ready.
/is it too late to put that one in the lgf cookbook?
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:22:33am |
re: #238 eschew_obfuscation
psst!...(that was moved to Al Capone's vault in Chicago)...don't tell him.
Hmmm...good point. Guess that means Barack and Michelle have already looked there.
:-)
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cathypop Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:22:43am |
re: #234 VMA211Dan
I've heard you can make an alcoholic beverage from Dandilions. Never had it though. I guess ferment them. Anybody heard of this?
Sorry, way off topic.
My grandmother made great dandelion wine.
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:00am |
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:26am |
re: #241 Occasional Reader
"ARUGULA ARUGULA
DIVE! DIVE! DIVE!"
Brilliant!
Ah, you missed a golden opportunity.
"enDIVE, enDIVE, enDIVE!"
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:44am |
re: #247 Silhouette
Dandelion wine. I think one can make alcohol about of just about anything.
My favorite was a recipe for "pumpkin beer."
1) Hollow out a pumpkin
2) Fill with sugar
3) Put under your bed
4) You'll know when it is ready./is it too late to put that one in the lgf cookbook?
Way too late, thank goodness!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:52am |
re: #225 buzzsawmonkey
You're not supposed to date the help.
That's why I always make a point of firing them before I ask them out.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:06am |
re: #238 eschew_obfuscation
psst!...(that was moved to Al Capone's vault in Chicago)...don't tell him.
Does anyone remember the size of the audience that watched that vault scoop back in the day? What year was it?
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debutaunt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:12am |
re: #247 Silhouette
Dandelion wine. I think one can make alcohol about of just about anything.
My favorite was a recipe for "pumpkin beer."
1) Hollow out a pumpkin
2) Fill with sugar
3) Put under your bed
4) You'll know when it is ready./is it too late to put that one in the lgf cookbook?
We could hear it when our neighbor made root beer.
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:36am |
re: #246 midwestgak
You can ferment anything organic. Even meat. Sounds yucky, but it will ferment too.
"Soylent Verde" probably wouldn't be a big seller huh?
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:41am |
re: #251 Silhouette
Ah, you missed a golden opportunity.
"enDIVE, enDIVE, enDIVE!"
When it comes up again, will it go to chicory chicory dock?
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:48am |
re: #247 Silhouette
Dandelion wine. I think one can make alcohol about of just about anything.
My favorite was a recipe for "pumpkin beer."
1) Hollow out a pumpkin
2) Fill with sugar
3) Put under your bed
4) You'll know when it is ready./is it too late to put that one in the lgf cookbook?
My mother once tried to make elderberry wine. Put it in those mason jars with a baloon over the top, and stored them in the basement. Forgot about checking them, and almost all went off at once. Blew the sh$$ out of the cat, who was down there at the time. (Didn't kill it, but it never sat on Mom's lap again.)
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:55am |
As long as we're talking about eating weeds, those blue flowers that grow along the interstate in summer, chickory, make a so-so substitute for coffee. Early settlers would mix chickory with their coffee to make it last longer.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:16am |
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Macker Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:36am |
re: #257 eschew_obfuscation
"Soylent Verde" probably wouldn't be a big seller huh?
Don't you mean Soylent Merde?
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:38am |
re: #194 PAgirlinNC
Not sure if this has been posted but... are you freakin' KIDDING me?!
No audit for Obama
Could people perhaps get up something like a class action thingie to force the issue?
Dunno if tis possible - lawyers should know this.
It really stinks - and I hope people are not going to let this slide past.
Hiya, Lizard Nation - been a sombre and sad day today.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:42am |
re: #260 Silhouette
As long as we're talking about eating weeds, those blue flowers that grow along the interstate in summer, chickory, make a so-so substitute for coffee. Early settlers would mix chickory with their coffee to make it last longer.
And some folks in Louisiana still drink coffee & chicory.
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Crusty Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:45am |
re: #208 midwestgak
Is "My Pie" pizza parlor one of your haunts? Great thin crust pizza. Maybe that's were your nic . . . :)
My nic is from the "Capt. Underpants" books, but I'm more of a House of Wing guy m'self!
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debutaunt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:49am |
re: #259 subsailor68
My mother once tried to make elderberry wine. Put it in those mason jars with a baloon over the top, and stored them in the basement. Forgot about checking them, and almost all went off at once. Blew the sh$$ out of the cat, who was down there at the time. (Didn't kill it, but it never sat on Mom's lap again.)
hahahahahahahhahahahahahaaa
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Occasional Reader Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:50am |
re: #247 Silhouette
Mind you, beer with pumpkin flavor can be absolutely delicious.
Gotta go for now.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:26:34am |
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:26:52am |
re: #264 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation - been a sombre and sad day today.
Uh, oh. That doesn't sound good. Wassup?
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:27:06am |
re: #254 midwestgak
Does anyone remember the size of the audience that watched that vault scoop back in the day? What year was it?
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:27:19am |
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:27:44am |
re: #259 subsailor68
My mother once tried to make elderberry wine. Put it in those mason jars with a baloon over the top, and stored them in the basement. Forgot about checking them, and almost all went off at once. Blew the sh$$ out of the cat, who was down there at the time. (Didn't kill it, but it never sat on Mom's lap again.)
Now that made my day. Too Funny. :)
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Picayune Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:28:27am |
re: #258 goddessoftheclassroom
When it comes up again, will it go to chicory chicory dock?
Not necessary. The sub was on a shallot endive!
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:29:05am |
re: #274 FrogMarch
Jeez. That makes me depressed as well.
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:29:13am |
re: #274 FrogMarch
/So with this logic we can look to pay 160% in taxes?
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:29:19am |
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:30:39am |
re: #276 taxfreekiller
Makes me want to move to a country that is socialist by choice. But then again, probably not.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:30:47am |
re: #274 FrogMarch
There's a great book out now called "The Forgotten Man" by Amity Schlaes. What you looked at was one more example of how first Hoover, then FDR, prolonged and deepened the recession.
I pray we've learned from that, but doubt it.
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legalpad Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:30:54am |
Just doing some office/home work and watching Band of Brothers for Veterans Days. I'm on Part 9,Why We Fight. They show the concentration camp scenes here. I cannot help but reflect on the hatred that fuels the left. No matter how much they deny it, the hatred and contempt they hold for those who do not conform to their political views is what defines them, not what they will allegedly do for their constituents. Add to that their toleration, even encouragement of the Muslim hatred of - everyone else, especially the Jews.
I think it was an O'Reilly-Donahue discussion where Donahue's response to O'Reilly's question about the slaughter of 2 million Vietnamese after the American withdrawal was, "I think we should all quit calling each other names." That is comparable with whatever Fonda said about what happened to the POW's after she turned their letters over. It is comparable with Chomsky's long denial of the Cambodian holocaust.
You could add more to this mindset. That malaria rates in Africa skyrocketed (55 million more dead) after DDT was inappropriate banned by a single (leftist) bureaucrat after a court made opposite conclusions. That much of the world still supports slavery and genocide, and the rest of the world tolerates them and does business with them, making no efforts to restructure their energy and economy so they won't feel like they have to.
The bottom line is this: The left doesn't care about any of this. They are so full of their own ideological garbage that they do not care who suffers and dies, or how many, as long as it is not them or theirs. They generate hate and division faster than any Nazi ever did, and just deny doing it.
The funny part is when I find myself in a group of lefties and say these same things. They are all just like deer in the headlights. They have nothing to say, and they don't care. They would never admit that their policy of destroying all check-and-balance in a power structure is what leads to this sort of thing - every time.
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:32:36am |
re: #270 Russkilitlover
Uh, oh. That doesn't sound good. Wassup?
Armistice/Remembrance Day - and watching those three veterans, survivours of WWI - not a typo! - made the tears spill over, remembering the many young lads who didn't make it.
Also, its my late husband's birthday - two sombre and sad occasions.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:33:19am |
re: #282 legalpad
They can't grasp facts. It is pure emotion. Thats it. History doesn't matter, facts don't matter. Its all about guilt. They don't want to feel guilty.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:15am |
re: #283 yma o hyd
Sorry for you yma. Glad you came to LGF though. You can put your head on my shoulder.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:39am |
re: #283 yma o hyd
Armistice/Remembrance Day - and watching those three veterans, survivours of WWI - not a typo! - made the tears spill over, remembering the many young lads who didn't make it.
Also, its my late husband's birthday - two sombre and sad occasions.
Three? Wow. AFAIK, we're down to one.
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SummerSong Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:57am |
It looks as though the market wants to go green.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:01am |
re: #283 yma o hyd
I'm so very sorry too. When my mom's birthday comes around, I just try to remember all the good, funny times growing up. It doesn't kill the pain, but does help to dull the ache.
God bless you.
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:11am |
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:11am |
re: #233 subsailor68
Great idea...and we could get Geraldo Rivera to cover it live!
UHF: 'Let's find out what is in Al Capone's glove box!'
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:29am |
re: #176 VMA211Dan
Okay, I'm just a dumb hillbilly. I've laughed about the arugula jokes but I must admit that I have no idea what arugula is. Anybody want to explain it to me?
So, my dogs tangled with a skunk one night. After our saturated brains began to recover, all we could smell was arugula.
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:43am |
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:24am |
re: #291 Oh no...Sand People!
UHF: 'Let's find out what is in Al Capone's glove box!'
Geraldo: "What the hell is this? No gloves? What a rip!"
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Picayune Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:25am |
re: #279 subsailor68
O.K. But, it was a "Yellow Submarine" on the way to Pepperland. (We all live in a...)
(P.S. - my uncle Bob was an Annapolis grad who drove subs - his entire "lifer" career, - a really great guy who retired to become a vintner and made excellent SoCal Vin)
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:45am |
re: #293 NYCHardhat
WTF is going on with gas prices. I thought OPEC was supposed to cut production so prices could level out. I'm not complaining, but I am suspicious.
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:00am |
re: #287 OldLineTexan
Three? Wow. AFAIK, we're down to one.
There are four in the UK - one must have been too ill.
I put the link to the video in the spin-offs, under Military, and another, a report, no vid.
Its just incredible.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:11am |
elections.foxnews.com...] target="_blank">
Well. It's a start.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:43am |
re: #295 Picayune
O.K. But, it was a "Yellow Submarine" on the way to Pepperland. (We all live in a...)
(P.S. - my uncle Bob was an Annapolis grad who drove subs - his entire "lifer" career, - a really great guy who retired to become a vintner and made excellent SoCal Vin)
Good on him! I was in from 68 to 76...if he was in the Pacific, might know him (or of him).
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:56am |
re: #296 bellamags
Middleeastern money was funneled into Obama's campaign. The gas prices are dropping. Something definitely stinks.
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:40:26am |
re: #296 bellamags
WTF is going on with gas prices. I thought OPEC was supposed to cut production so prices could level out. I'm not complaining, but I am suspicious.
They've done it before. Last time we tried a bit of domestic exploration, prices dropped like a rock. Had that not happened, W would prolly still be an oil man.
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:41:36am |
re: #289 subsailor68
Thank you - yes, that is what I keep doing. Its just today, seeing those three old warriors, the last surviving link to that catastrophic war, which made it more sad than usual.
Still - life goes on, and one mustn't let oneself fall into gloom and despondency.
Now a good does of righteous anger usually snaps me out of that!
Like thats stuff about the audit ...
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:42:01am |
re: #303 bellamags
Distraction, payoff, coup? Give it a name. Either way, the middle class is fucked.
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Rancher Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:42:55am |
On Veterans. Where do we continue to get these folks? After Pearl Harbor and 911, sure, patriots will sign up. But in the "lean years", during a Carter or Clinton or immediately after Vietnam, where do they come from? Sure there are warriors who want to fight, I saw alto of them in the USMC. But they are not even a majority in the Marines, others enlist out of a since of duty when pay is poor and support is thin. Yet they come. They will come during Obama, bet on it. God love them.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:43:38am |
re: #305 yma o hyd
Thank you - yes, that is what I keep doing. Its just today, seeing those three old warriors, the last surviving link to that catastrophic war, which made it more sad than usual.
Still - life goes on, and one mustn't let oneself fall into gloom and despondency.
Now a good does of righteous anger usually snaps me out of that!
Like thats stuff about the audit ...
Good for you! Or a good story. Like that great line from "Legend of 1900" - "You're never really done for, as long as you have a good story, and someone to tell it to."
Hang in there.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:44:17am |
Rush saying it will take 25 years to get over this administration of Obama, Pelosi and Reid. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it. They will over reach and get away with it.
Saying he was wrong when he stated that the American people would never vote for this type of leadership. Alas, he was.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:44:50am |
re: #142 Abu Lahab
I like your nic. Very appropriate for these times.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:45:22am |
re: #283 yma o hyd
What a sad day for you, indeed. They showed those three older veterans here on our news in Los Angeles. Made me cry too. Unbelievable that the one fellow is 114 years old!
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:46:40am |
re: #307 Rancher
On Veterans. Where do we continue to get these folks? After Pearl Harbor and 911, sure, patriots will sign up. But in the "lean years", during a Carter or Clinton or immediately after Vietnam, where do they come from? Sure there are warriors who want to fight, I saw alto of them in the USMC. But they are not even a majority in the Marines, others enlist out of a since of duty when pay is poor and support is thin. Yet they come. They will come during Obama, bet on it. God love them.
Yes - and here in the UK there was a brief report recently that more people are applying for the Armed Forces than in the years before.
And that in spite of bad pay, atrocious living quarters and bad equipment, thanks to Gord.
I think its another sign that people are seeing through another of the moonbat arguments, that soldiers are baaad ...
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:47:45am |
re: #309 midwestgak
Rush saying it will take 25 years to get over this administration of Obama, Pelosi and Reid. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it. They will over reach and get away with it.
Saying he was wrong when he stated that the American people would never vote for this type of leadership. Alas, he was.
And, I was going to retire. Shit.
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Athos Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:47:58am |
re: #282 legalpad
The funny part is when I find myself in a group of lefties and say these same things. They are all just like deer in the headlights. They have nothing to say, and they don't care. They would never admit that their policy of destroying all check-and-balance in a power structure is what leads to this sort of thing - every time.
A few months ago, in a rather loud debate with some hard core leftists, in front of about a dozen moderates and conservatives, I got a Nathan Jessup moment when the loudest of the leftists admitted that he couldn't care less about any who died as long as they weren't Americans and that his goal and desire was to remake the US because the US didn't deserve to be a superpower or global leader - it had abdicated it's right to be one.
Needless to say - when it dawned on him what he said, from the sudden silence in the room, there was no apology...just a move of the goalpost by changing the subject. My question on why, since he felt that way, he was applying for US citizenship went unanswered. I'm sure he feels better after last Tuesday.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:48:01am |
re: #313 NYCHardhat
I forgot about that. damn. what a tool.
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legalpad Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:48:03am |
re: #284 bellamags
They can't grasp facts. It is pure emotion. Thats it. History doesn't matter, facts don't matter. Its all about guilt. They don't want to feel guilty.
Oh yeah - and their guilt and the guilt of others is based on the delusions in their virtual world, where the only enemy is the people who support and protect them.
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:48:44am |
re: #311 buzzsawmonkey
Re "making guns childproof," the only thing "childproofing" does is make it impossible for adults to access something. Kids always get into what they want to get into.
Pardon me, Mr. Home Intruder, can you please wait a moment while I remove this child lock? The key is in another room. Then would you be so kind as to wait while I fetch the ammo, which is also locked up, and in another room? Thanks, that'd be great.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:48:58am |
re: #281 subsailor68
There's a great book out now called "The Forgotten Man" by Amity Schlaes. What you looked at was one more example of how first Hoover, then FDR, prolonged and deepened the recession.
I pray we've learned from that, but doubt it.
I will second the recommendation. Highly readable and full of facts you can use to baffle your progressive friends.
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Athos Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:49:15am |
re: #284 bellamags
They can't grasp facts. It is pure emotion. Thats it. History doesn't matter, facts don't matter. Its all about guilt. They don't want to feel guilty.
Narcissists don't feel guilty.
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doppelganglander Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:49:49am |
re: #283 yma o hyd
Armistice/Remembrance Day - and watching those three veterans, survivours of WWI - not a typo! - made the tears spill over, remembering the many young lads who didn't make it.
Also, its my late husband's birthday - two sombre and sad occasions.
I'm so sorry. I hope enjoying some lizard fellowship will help you through.
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:08am |
re: #307 Rancher
On Veterans. Where do we continue to get these folks? After Pearl Harbor and 911, sure, patriots will sign up. But in the "lean years", during a Carter or Clinton or immediately after Vietnam, where do they come from? Sure there are warriors who want to fight, I saw alto of them in the USMC. But they are not even a majority in the Marines, others enlist out of a since of duty when pay is poor and support is thin. Yet they come. They will come during Obama, bet on it. God love them.
I'll tell you where they come from. From the families of veterans. We reproduce ourselves, the ones that come home. My grandfather and his three brothers all served in WWII and made it home. It was always kind of understood that service was not asked for but expected. I enlisted in 1982, we had a terrible economy then too. But not many I served with went in for the money. E-1 in USMC, I don't think I made $100 a month. There are those who will always serve.
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:17am |
re: #317 bellamags
I'm tired of people giving him the benefit of the doubt. He loathes the military just like Bubba. Fuck this guy. I am an American and will support him because thats my duty, but fuck him.
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:25am |
re: #312 Pvt Bin Jammin
What a sad day for you, indeed. They showed those three older veterans here on our news in Los Angeles. Made me cry too. Unbelievable that the one fellow is 114 years old!
Erm - 112 years - but even so!
This time of year, when the veterans are out collecting for the British legion (thats a charity which looks after veterans of all our wars), I usually need a lot of paper hankies and a good dose of coutneance because I ifnallibly start sniffling, and if the vet is one of those lovely oldies, gawd help me If I don't start crying all over him! In public! On the street!
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:25am |
re: #320 doppelganglander
I will second the recommendation. Highly readable and full of facts you can use to baffle your progressive friends.
Yep on your take on the book.
Only one question: Isn't "progressive friends" an oxymoron?
:-)
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Picayune Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:51:25am |
re: #299 subsailor68
Commander Bob ended his career in San Diego as big brass. He served during WWII in the pacific as a sub skipper. He had me aboard on the "Blue Back"(sp?) when I was about nine during its shakedown days - what a thrill, and what a guy, arrow straight.
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:51:40am |
re: #324 NYCHardhat
I'm tired of people giving him the benefit of the doubt. He loathes the military just like Bubba. Fuck this guy. I am an American and will support him because thats my duty, but fuck him.
I cannot argue with that.
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yma o hyd Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:52:09am |
re: #322 doppelganglander
I'm so sorry. I hope enjoying some lizard fellowship will help you through.
It does indeed, thank you!
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Outrider Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:52:27am |
re: #309 midwestgak
Rush saying it will take 25 years to get over this administration of Obama, Pelosi and Reid. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it. They will over reach and get away with it.
Saying he was wrong when he stated that the American people would never vote for this type of leadership. Alas, he was.
looks like a whole bunch of us overestimated Americans capacity to see Obama for what he is. And underestimated the lengths the Democrat party would go to to achieve their goals. I, for one, was firmly convinced Obama would lose. Ah well. Can't be perfect all the time eh? ;-)>
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:52:40am |
re: #318 legalpad
my soon to be x-mother-in-law is a lefty. we were talking about this foreclosure crap that is going on. She felt so bad for all the people losing their homes because they couldn't pay their mortgage. I asked her if she would stop paying her mortgage if she lost her job or if she would go out and get another job to pay the bills. "Of course I would go get another job" she said on the offense. I asked her if it was fair to expect the same from others. She couldn't answer and changed the subject.
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subsailor68 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:53:26am |
re: #328 Picayune
Commander Bob ended his career in San Diego as big brass. He served during WWII in the pacific as a sub skipper. He had me aboard on the "Blue Back"(sp?) when I was about nine during its shakedown days - what a thrill, and what a guy, arrow straight.
I'll bet he was pals with a gentleman I worked for, Admiral Buck Dietzen. He was a WWII skipper as well, also retired in San Diego, which is where I worked for him. He'd get mad if anyone ever called him anything but Buck.
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:53:50am |
re: #331 Outrider
I guess common sense and logic aren't what they're cracked up to be.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:53:52am |
re: #325 yma o hyd
I'm with you, need the hankies too. Bless those guys.
Sorry, I thought they said 114.
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midwestgak Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:54:14am |
re: #331 Outrider
looks like a whole bunch of us overestimated Americans capacity to see Obama for what he is. And underestimated the lengths the Democrat party would go to to achieve their goals. I, for one, was firmly convinced Obama would lose. Ah well. Can't be perfect all the time eh? ;-)>
Have no way of proving it, but after listening to the numbers, this election wasn't much different that 2000 or 2004. Voter fraud is the only thing that truly makes sense to me. We are still a centrist nation.
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bellamags Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:54:33am |
re: #333 Iron Fist
I agree with that post. Scares the shit out of me, but I agree.
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Outrider Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:57:30am |
re: #335 NYCHardhat
I guess common sense and logic aren't what they're cracked up to be.
Well, they are all they are cracked up to be... they just aren't as prevalent as they used to be. Logic isn't taught anymore, nor is critical thinking.
Common sense is inherent I think. Don't know if it can be taught. But, I seem to be surrounded by a lack of common sense. ;-)> Don't know why it isn't as common as it once was.
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legalpad Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:59:58am |
re: #316 Athos
he couldn't care less about any who died as long as they weren't Americans and that his goal and desire was to remake the US because the US didn't deserve to be a superpower or global leader - it had abdicated it's right to be one.
Without the most moral force on the planet as a global leader, more of everybody, including Americans, will die. What does a crazy lefty, without facts or history, know about who deserves what? And who should be a global leader? Russia? France? China? It's as if the spoiled child of affluent America is pouting and throwing a fit in a virtual world where his parents provide him with everything. They will probably force a showdown. Too bad.
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NYCHardhat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 12:00:14pm |
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VMA211Dan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 12:12:52pm |
re: #342 Iron Fist
If there is any hope for the Repubs now, it is that we are going to have to change the party fundamentally now. Will we move to the left or return to our conservative principles? We can win in 2010 if we return to our core and we still have a center-right country. The RNC is leaderless now. There is talk of Gingrich or Michael Steele running the RNC. Gingrich was the leader in 1994. There is still hope. Don't give up yet.
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Picayune Tue, Nov 11, 2008 12:18:25pm |
re: #334 subsailor68
Don't know, I'll ask him on the next phone call. Buck and Bob are truly great men, of real character and integrity, the best of America. We need more of 'em these days. They were both victorious, and never forgot what they learned in battle, or in life - I'll bet!
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Silhouette Tue, Nov 11, 2008 12:24:45pm |
re: #343 buzzsawmonkey
Buzz, if it was me, I'd go with the "illegal" weapon.
I'd rather be going to jail for a dead intruder than be defenseless against that intruder.
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The Hoopster Tue, Nov 11, 2008 12:35:25pm |
re: #304 buzzsawmonkey
Burger Beer!
Brisket Beer!
SchnitzelSchlitz!
Hotdogs steamed in hotdog beer! Hot dog!
They really make pizza beer.. sounds gross to me
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Crusty Tue, Nov 11, 2008 12:44:45pm |
re: #343 buzzsawmonkey
So, here's the question. If you live in a state and city with strict gun controls--as I do--what is the point of running out to buy a weapon before Obama starts his war on gun ownership? I buy a gun legitimately, I'm tagged and registered via permit; he tries confiscation, he knows where to get my weapon.
If I buy something in a state with looser controls and bring it back here, then I have an illegal weapon; if I use it on an intruder, I am on a one-way ticket to Riker's Island. If I merely have it and it is found, I am also in jeopardy.
So: what do we residents of strict control states/cities do? What is the purpose of holding a weapon which is tagged and numbered for confiscation if things go that way?
I think people are trying to beat the ban on sales of certain firearms rather than the possession of them. Remember Clinton's vague semi-auto ban and the ban on 10 round-plus clips.
In a city like Chicago you can't really register a firearm but it's illegal to possess an unregistered firearm. A legal purchase takes place out of the city or state limits, where the local laws of the purchaser's home city don't matter, and FOID information is recorded and must be legally kept on file by the seller for 5 or 10 years, I think. The gun is taken home and, since the state FOID database isn't shared with the city, local police enforcement is none the wiser that you've got an unregistered piece.
To really answer your question, though, I've had cop friends tell me that if it got to the point of the government rounding up guns based on gun sale records, people would claim that their guns were lost or stolen and they never reported it.
And then there's always the "Better to be tried by twelve than carried by six" mentality.
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Banner Tue, Nov 11, 2008 3:01:54pm |
Funny video, but what CNN did IS NOT a hologram. It's a simple overlay on the TV screen. Why do people always abuse words they don't know? It's not a hologram.
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talon_262 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 3:23:18pm |
re: #218 Silhouette
My hometown grocery store had tacos and spaghetti in the "foreign food" aisle.
And I talked them into carrying eggplant just for me. So of course I felt honor-bound to buy one every week. Boy did I get sick of eggplant.
I loves me some fried eggplant...mmm
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jopa416 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 3:46:34pm |
If they would let a tiger chase Chris Matthews around I might actually watch MSNBC. I wonder if the MSM realizes how many viewers they have lost forever due to their overt bias & rude childish covergae of republicans.
I mean honestly, Sarah Palins cloths? Did any news organization ever in the history of electons run articles about how much a democrats cloths cost? EVER ? IN HISTORY ? A bunch of spoiled children, that is what they are. No more credibility than Tiger Beat Magazine in my mind.
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