And Now for Some Brawling Monks
This isn’t the first time the competing religious groups in charge of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem have broken out in violence, but it’s one of the few times it’s been filmed.
This isn’t the first time the competing religious groups in charge of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem have broken out in violence, but it’s one of the few times it’s been filmed.
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pat Tue, Nov 11, 2008 8:58:01pm |
Yeah. this was interesting. No doubt about that. lol
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wright1 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:00:53pm |
They need to read the Gospels. It seems they have been worrying more about being close to the dead rather than the seeking the Spirit.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:01:25pm |
WWJDIHWAUF: What Whoud Jesus Do . . . If He Were An Ultimate Fighter?
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:02:49pm |
Hmmm. Anyone who's ever been to that place will understand why those guys were a little cranky.
It's nutz.
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experiencedtraveller Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:03:26pm |
Thankfully, none of them know any karate.
/Did you see those punches?
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:04:05pm |
IIRC something like this happened a year or 2 ago when a cleaning project was going on - one sect started cleaning another sects area and - blamo - a hockey game broke out.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:05:53pm |
If there are any Rowan Atkinson fans out there, the first season of Black Adder has a similar scene in the episode Archbishop.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:06:52pm |
re: #11 experiencedtraveller
Thankfully, none of them know any karate.
/Did you see those punches?
It would've been even more interesting if everybody was Kung Fu fighting!
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:08:29pm |
re: #14 HelloDare
The nun at my church would love those! I got her a little plastic nun figure that shot sparks out of it's mouth once. she LHerAO!
Now that I am a grown-up, most nuns are pretty kool.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:08:30pm |
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mfarmer1 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:08:35pm |
I don't care about the brawl, I just hope the ladder sitting in the same place for the last 150 years didn't get disturbed! Now, THAT would have been ugly!
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:09:21pm |
re: #17 Noam Sayin'
So, how did that start?
Well. In 325, Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, and...
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:10:15pm |
re: #27 ggt
so, shall we call it MonkFest and drink?
I'm getting popcorn for the Ultimate Jesus vs. Jesus grudge match.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:10:32pm |
re: #28 Sharmuta
I'm getting popcorn for the Ultimate Jesus vs. Jesus grudge match.
I put money on Jesus, so I hope He wins.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:10:38pm |
re: #27 ggt
so, shall we call it MonkFest and drink?
"So, are you the 'Fish Friar'?"
"No, I'm the 'Chip Monk'."
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:10:39pm |
Brouhaha, riot, mix, affray, brawl, fray, free-for-all, row, ruction, tumult, fracas, rumble.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:11:34pm |
"See guys, there's violence in every religion!"
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:11:37pm |
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:12:09pm |
How many Monks does it take . . .
I'm too tired to finish it.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:12:22pm |
re: #28 Sharmuta
I'm getting popcorn for the Ultimate Jesus vs. Jesus grudge match.
Have they ever done that on Celebrity Deathmatch?
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:12:26pm |
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:13:15pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:13:38pm |
re: #37 Noam Sayin'
Never too late for something like that!
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Opilio Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:14:48pm |
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
— President Merkin Muffley
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RedWhiteAndJew Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:14:53pm |
WWJDIHWAUF: What Whoud Jesus Do . . . If He Were An Ultimate Fighter?
"And in this corner, weighing in at 1035 Minah. The Manhandler from Galilee, the Messiah who'll nullify-ya, the Savior of Misbehavior..."
(no disrespect intended)
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LoFlyer Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:14:57pm |
I kind of feel sorry for the cops trying to sort the mess out!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:15:03pm |
How about we stop fighting over imaginary shit and start fighting over stuff that is really happening?
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:15:26pm |
Gun thread time!
My old man tried to buy a M4 from his gun dealer buddy. He can't even get one from a warehouse. As the factory rep told him, "we are completely out." He ended up buying an upper and lower receiver separately to make one gun.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:15:35pm |
re: #28 Sharmuta
I'm getting popcorn for the Ultimate Jesus vs. Jesus grudge match.
No, Jesus, he knows me better!
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joncelli Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:16:00pm |
Sheesh, I've seen more orderly bar fights. And where did all those people come from? Do the monks have nothing better but to break their fingers on each other?
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:16:03pm |
re: #42 LoFlyer
I can't imagine the reports they have to write.
All I see is humor in this --sad, I know.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:16:29pm |
re: #42 LoFlyer
I kind of feel sorry for the cops trying to sort the mess out!
Ha, me too -- the first poor guy with a beret and an auto weapon must have thought, "Please. Please, don't make me shoot someone in here."
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RedWhiteAndJew Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:16:33pm |
It was monks so it couldn't have been a BREWhaha.
Quite the contrary. Some monks make heavenly beers.
No, really!
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:16:51pm |
re: #44 ggt
where is that memorial?
Don't know. I found it on lol news and politics. I bet a Marine could tell us.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:17:03pm |
Looks like the entire set of Black Adder episodes is up on youtube.
Don't know how long they will last there, but they are pretty high quality.
The person who posted them has the season and episode numbers in the titles as well as part 1 through 4.
Anyways, start here if you want.
This is great British comedy that launched the careers of Rowan Atkinson (who later did Mr Bean and Johny English) and Hugh Laurie (of House fame).
(Hugh Laurie is featured prominently in seasons 3 and 4)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:17:40pm |
re: #51 RedWhiteAndJew
Quite the contrary. Some monks make heavenly beers.
No, really!
Some of the best booze is made by those in religious orders.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:17:41pm |
re: #47 joncelli
Sheesh, I've seen more orderly bar fights. And where did all those people come from? Do the monks have nothing better but to break their fingers on each other?
Believe it or not, it was a pretty uncrowded day, looks like.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:17:45pm |
re: #45 logboy
Gun thread time!
My old man tried to buy a M4 from his gun dealer buddy. He can't even get one from a warehouse. As the factory rep told him, "we are completely out." He ended up buying an upper and lower receiver separately to make one gun.
I beat the rush, used my stimulus check plus my gun kitty.
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joncelli Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:17:47pm |
re: #45 logboy
Yeah, went shopping for a shotgun out of curiosity. You can't get a home defense weapon in southeast PA for love or money. Everybody expects the new guys to clamp down so the dealers can't keep stuff on the shelf.
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RedWhiteAndJew Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:18:46pm |
Some of the best booze is made by those in religious orders.
And how. Every try Chartreuse?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:18:57pm |
re: #60 joncelli
Yeah, went shopping for a shotgun out of curiosity. You can't get a home defense weapon in southeast PA for love or money. Everybody expects the new guys to clamp down so the dealers can't keep stuff on the shelf.
I would dearly love it to be just expectations instead of reality.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:19:14pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:19:32pm |
re: #62 RedWhiteAndJew
And how. Every try Chartreuse?
No, but I have been hooked on Benedictine and Frangelico. ;)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:20:19pm |
re: #64 logboy
I wonder how long till there is a "War on Terror Memorial" for OIF/OEF Vets.
I would guess at least 4 years.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:20:28pm |
The real Jesus would stand by the wayside and scoff at them, because His real followers would have realized He wasn't there any more.
Jesus was never one to shy away from a good fight.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:21:30pm |
re: #64 logboy
There is already a small one at Camp Pendleton for the 3rd MAW. I have personal pics but don't know how to put them on here. Will see if I can find it on google.
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:21:37pm |
re: #55 Noam Sayin'
there are some great war dog sites. I had a foster dog that would have been a good sniffer dog for the police or military --so I was doing all kinds of research on it trying to figure out if they would take her and how to go about it. She had some health problems, so I wouldn't work out. But, I learned a lot!
Mostly that a lot of the dogs that end up in shelters do so because they are not really "pet quality", they need to work and don't get propery placed. The funding isn't there to sort all the dogs out and get them where they should be. So sad. When I (if ever) retire, I'd like to go around to shelters and find the dogs the police /military need and put the two together.
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piglet-u93 Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:22:10pm |
Hamas and Fatah arguments yield much more conclusive results.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:22:50pm |
I bought a Mossberg for turkey hunting this spring. I love my old Winchester Model 100, but you can't change chokes. Now that the rush is on, I bought a Ruger P89 and will pick up a Ruger 10-22 JFTHOI.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:23:11pm |
Christians tend to go to fisticuffs - Muslims go the suicide bomber route.
Compare the two.
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:23:15pm |
re: #60 joncelli
Isn't a well-armed society enough of a deterrence? (I'm remembering something about a 'rifle behind every blade of grass")
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:24:30pm |
re: #72 Intrepid
Christians tend to go to fisticuffs - Muslims go the suicide bomber route.
Compare the two.
I'm Baptast, we throw offering plates... after we empty them of course.
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:24:30pm |
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:24:50pm |
re: #72 Intrepid
The difference between 'kapow' and 'kablooey.'
(Actually I think the vast majority of both just want to live in peace, unbothered by the crazies.)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:26:43pm |
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:26:50pm |
Oh duh! I remember going to see Gary Sinise speak at the NPC in DC to raise money for the first of its kind "wounded Veteran's memorial" to honor wounded veterans from all wars. I was pretty medicated at the time, hence the reason I forgot about it. I cannot seem to find it on the web though.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:26:53pm |
re: #78 ggt
I though it was Greeks who threw plates? :)
Here in Vegas, there's one place that buys up old dishes from hotels, and then uses them for a special room. Anytime you feel frustrated, you buy some time in this room, and you can throw all the dishes you want in anger!
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Parker in US Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:27:06pm |
OT: Mr. McCaine your answer on Leno about Sara was BS you need to step and have the guts to back your running mate and your party!
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:27:24pm |
re: #78 ggt
I though it was Greeks who threw plates? :)
I think they use those censer thingies, the incense in a ball on the end of chain. Not only a nasty whack, but burning embers down your neck.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:27:30pm |
Good evening all y'all - I'm sorry to go OT and I'm sorry for the repost I made waaay late in the prior thread, but I just feel that I have to post it - typos and all, again:
"You know you all - I read Bush's comments and said to myself "So what?" Who among us - hell who among any President of the United States hasn't had regrets?
Did he lie to us about 9/11 - NO - I was there and I saw us get MUGGED by terrrorism less than 9 months into his Presidency. His intelligence agencies and the intelligence agencies of Great Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Egypt and Jordan all INDEPENDENTLY reached the conclussion that Hussein had WMDS. Based on that Collin Powell went to the UN and Bush went to the Congress and recieved approval for invading Iraq, NOT JUST BECAUSE of the WMDs, but to enforce the 17 or 19 blatant, outright violations of UN Sanctions again Iraq.
And, most importantly of all, we've had no more 9/11 attacks on the US since he's been President.Something for which I'll always be grateful and for which President Bush DOES deserve the credit. His kissing up to the Arab nations, espcially Saudi Arabia and the UAE was to make sure that the US got enough oil to maintain our economy and fight two wars concurrently AND TO TRY TO KEEP Saudi and UAE money from goint to Al-Queda.
Could Bush have done a better job as POTUS - sure, but he DIDN'T LIE TO US, HE KEPT US SAFE and he did it all while being the most viciously attacked President by the MSM and the "loyal" opposition that I can remember.
Don't y'all remember FISA - how the liberals and the MSM wailed and cried that we were "Wiretapping" people making overseas phone calls in order to protect Americans (FISA)? And don't y'all remember that Obama - after lying through his teeth and saying he wouldn't support that intrustion on our civil liberties, wound up voting FOR FISA?President Bush saved us from another 9/11 because HE TOOK THE FIGHT TO THE ENEMY and kept them on the run and cut down on their ability to communicate and raise or obtain money to finance their operation.
I don't think he's a loser and I for sure don't feel that I'm a loser because I supported President Bush."
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Adina in Judea Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:28:08pm |
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:28:19pm |
re: #69 ggt
That sounds like a great idea. Do you know dogs that well or is that something you just want to do? I love dogs and want to have one soon (Dobie), but my life is far too f'd up right now to complicate it with a dog. Something like that would give me some enjoyment.
I did a little digging on that memorial, and the most likely result I can find is this.
The War Dog Memorial, an exact replica of the official memorial in Guam, was donated to the University of Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine by Dr. Maurice Acree July 17, 1998. It honors not only the war dogs, but symbolizes the special connection people share with dogs.
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Opilio Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:28:55pm |
re: #76 ggt
Semper Fi --how appropriate.
Thanks for finding the link!
No problem. Note that the memorial in Tennessee is a replica of the original which is located in Guam.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:29:26pm |
What a year it's been. We have a socialist in the White House, Robert Spencer is in the running for a Fiskie and Pat Condell is in the running for a Fallaci. It's been weird.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:29:30pm |
re: #84 realwest
Your typos are like Bushisms...sincere words from a man that doesn't think fancy words are the end all and substitute for action.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:29:58pm |
re: #75 jcm
I'm Baptast, we throw offering plates... after we empty them of course.
Heh - not to mention the fights about carpet colors!
/what ever happened to the "3rd verse" of those hymns?
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:30:52pm |
re: #88 Killgore Trout
What a year it's been. We have a socialist in the White House, Robert Spencer is in the running for a Fiskie and Pat Condell is in the running for a Fallaci. It's been weird.
Apparently you haven't heard about bin Laden's nomination for Dad of the Year.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:31:22pm |
Found it.
Disabled Veterans Life Memorial Foundation
Throughout our nation’s history, service men and women have gone bravely into battle, risking their lives and livelihoods, sacrificing their safety to defend America. When their duty is done, many return home to life as it was. Sadly, for over 3 million veterans seriously injured in the line of duty, leaving the battlefield does not mark the end of conflict. These permanently disabled heroes often carry home life-altering disabilities – stern reminders of the price of freedom.
America’s disabled veterans have honored us with their service and selfless duty. It is now our turn to honor them.
For the first time, America will pay tribute to some of our most courageous heroes – our disabled veterans. The American Veterans Disabled for Life Memorial will celebrate those men and women who may be broken in body – but never in spirit.
.
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Aye Pod Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:31:30pm |
They need to ritualise this violence to take the heat of the situation. The head monk from each side should be given one custard pie...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:31:41pm |
re: #91 Cognito
What media outlet did that nomination?
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:32:38pm |
re: #90 Intrepid
Heh - not to mention the fights about carpet colors!
/what ever happened to the "3rd verse" of those hymns?
Got to be done by 11:55 and beat the Lutherans to the buffet line.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:33:18pm |
re: #64 logboy
I wonder how long till there is a "War on Terror Memorial" for OIF/OEF Vets.
I was mistaken about that memorial. It includes the fallen (some from OEF and OIF) from Marine Aircraft Group 39. Here is an article about it including video. We have a family members name on that memorial.
RIP dear nephew.
[Link: www.nctimes.com...]
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Defogger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:33:45pm |
re: #75 jcm
I'm Baptast, we throw offering plates... after we empty them of course.
I'm a Baptist, myself. What's a Baptast?
I might be interested in joining . . .
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:34:19pm |
re: #71 logboy
I think I'm settled on the Ruger SP101 .357 for #3. Probably by the end of the year.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:34:26pm |
re: #98 Defogger
I'm a Baptist, myself. What's a Baptast?
I might be interested in joining . . .
An offering plate throwing Baptist, silly ;)
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:34:41pm |
re: #98 Defogger
I'm a Baptist, myself. What's a Baptast?
I might be interested in joining . . .
It's similar to Baptism, but they're Baptastier!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:34:47pm |
re: #92 logboy
I'm so glad to hear of this. It's about time. God Bless You and all of our vets.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:34:58pm |
re: #89 FurryOldGuyJeans
Well thanks, but frankly my typos are my typos - I sensed we were coming to the end of that thread, I was appalled at many of the reactions from LGFer's to Bush's statements and I rushed the typing. Period. No excuse, I rushed it trying to avoid doing what I wound up having to do any way - post it OT on another thread.
But since you've given me the opportunity, I read some of Charles' comments and had some difficulty divining/understanding how he feels, but I do know that LGF was instrumental in fighting the War on Terror and I sure as hell hope we will continue to be instrumental in fighting the War on Terror.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:35:15pm |
re: #96 Jimmah
I seriously doubt Spencer or Condell have a chance in hell of winning but the fact that they are even in the running is very odd.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:35:46pm |
re: #95 jcm
Got to be done by 11:55 and beat the Lutherans to the buffet line.
Oh the glory of Golden Corral!
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Defogger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:35:52pm |
re: #100 FurryOldGuyJeans
An offering plate throwing Baptist, silly ;)
Well, that might be fun! I'm pretty good with a Frisbee . . .
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:36:26pm |
re: #96 Jimmah
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has been shut out in years past because she's an atheist.
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Syrah Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:37:51pm |
re: #93 Jimmah
They need to ritualise this violence to take the heat of the situation. The head monk from each side should be given one custard pie...
Custard pies at 10 paces.
Throw in the clint east-wood spaghetti western gunfight soundtracks and we could sell tickets.
"When the music stops, throw your pies."
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Intifan Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:37:55pm |
re: #60 joncelli
Yeah, went shopping for a shotgun out of curiosity. You can't get a home defense weapon in southeast PA for love or money. Everybody expects the new guys to clamp down so the dealers can't keep stuff on the shelf.
It'll be an interesting day if the 'new guys' ever try to take the guns away.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:38:24pm |
re: #107 jcm
To late for a PIMF!
Strangely enough, if you enter "Baptast" in a Google search, it returns several pages of results, and doesn't ask you if you meant "Baptist". It must be something real.
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Defogger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:39:16pm |
re: #101 gmsc
It's similar to Baptism, but they're Baptastier!
I'm all for tastier! Although the church dinners at my church are pretty tasty already.
Really.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:39:55pm |
re: #112 gmsc
Strangely enough, if you enter "Baptast" in a Google search, it returns several pages of results, and doesn't ask you if you meant "Baptist". It must be something real.
Damn, I can't claim to the supreme high muckity muck of the Baptasts?
I'm crushed.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:40:50pm |
re: #113 Defogger
I'm all for tastier! Although the church dinners at my church are pretty tasty already.
Really.
I'm pro at church dinners, folks being missionaries we visited lots of churches, everyone had a "meet the missionaries" dinner.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:41:06pm |
re: #112 gmsc
Strangely enough, if you enter "Baptast" in a Google search, it returns several pages of results, and doesn't ask you if you meant "Baptist". It must be something real.
"Baptist" is a very generic term nowadays. Do you mean "Southern Baptist" or "General Baptist" or "Missionary Baptist"...
There are lots of Baptist groups out there. The largest one is "Southern Baptist". But their theology isn't representative of all baptists.
Confusing to be sure.
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dkorta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:41:13pm |
re: #26 Cognito
> Well. In 325, Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, and...
Actually, I think that was an attempt to restore peace to the Empire.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:41:14pm |
re: #114 jcm
Damn, I can't claim to the supreme high muckity muck of the Baptasts?
I'm crushed.
I can't be sure. Look through the search results, and you might just find that you can (or even that you already are!).
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:42:31pm |
re: #117 dkorta
Well. In 325, Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, and...
Actually, I think that was an attempt to restore peace to the Empire.
I wanna know everything that's happened up until now!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:43:29pm |
re: #112 gmsc
Strangely enough, if you enter "Baptast" in a Google search, it returns several pages of results, and doesn't ask you if you meant "Baptist". It must be something real.
Yahoo! search is more nuanced since they include "Baptist" for free. ;)
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:43:29pm |
A virtual tour of the American Veterans Disabled for Life Memorial virtual tour. Great video.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:44:23pm |
I'll guarantee you all - Baptists were not involved in the skirmish at the Holy Sepulchre.
No casseroles were in site.
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Defogger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:44:49pm |
re: #116 Intrepid
"Baptist" is a very generic term nowadays. Do you mean "Southern Baptist" or "General Baptist" or "Missionary Baptist"...
There are lots of Baptist groups out there. The largest one is "Southern Baptist". But their theology isn't representative of all baptists.
Confusing to be sure.
Tell me about it. I grew up in a Southern Baptist Church. Now serving in an American Baptist Church, but may soon go independent. There's a lot of those around, too.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:45:04pm |
re: #92 logboy
Thank you very much for that link. That is certainly something which is way overdue.
But I must say I sincerely hope that it doesn't reduce the amounts of charitable contributions folks make to the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) orgainization.
They are and have always been a fine, thoroughly upstanding orgainization which has genuinely helped thousands of disable American Veterans.
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:45:04pm |
I knew a Greek Orthodox monk who was known to brandish his cane. He feared no mortal, not even his abbot.
Aionia i mnimi.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:46:13pm |
re: #125 realwest
PIMF: thousands of disabled American Veterans.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:46:27pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:46:29pm |
OT - Obamatons banned in Iran.
Obama may have to break a campaign promise - there may indeed be a precondition to meeting with Iran's thug in chief - restoring the right to publicly adore Obama.
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:46:48pm |
re: #86 Noam Sayin'
I know dogs well enough to know which ones the police/military might like to evaluate. Strong prey drive, lots of energy, healthy dogs. The kind that most people would take home and say "no way" then bring to the shelter.
Dobies are great dogs, just research your breeder as they have some health issues that good breeders have bred out. And train, train, train. You want a pet, not an uncontrollable weapon. LOL!
There are some dobes at the training facility I used to go to that were UNBELIEVABLE --trained to the last tail hair and sweeties!
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Defogger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:47:17pm |
re: #123 Intrepid
I'll guarantee you all - Baptists were not involved in the skirmish at the Holy Sepulchre.
No casseroles were in site.
There are not too many monks among the Baptists. Nor vise-versa.
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esch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:48:22pm |
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:48:24pm |
re: #130 FurryOldGuyJeans
*Thump* He who puns would pick a man's pocket!
I disagree. A good pun is its own reword!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:48:45pm |
re: #133 Defogger
There are not too many monks among the Baptists. Nor vise-versa.
Celibacy never seems to have been popular with Baptists, for some strange reason.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:49:33pm |
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Defogger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:49:52pm |
Well, gang, I would love to monk around here some more, but it's getting late. I wish thee all a good night!
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:50:19pm |
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:50:42pm |
re: #131 karmic_inquisitor
Add to that The One's history in a madrassa, and the intrigue deepens. In some quarters, he's seen as a Muslim, because no doubt he did say the shahada as a child. But in other quarters, he's seen as an apostate, because he now goes to a place that calls itself a "Christian church."
/retch
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kulhwch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:51:12pm |
Not exactly OT:
Somalis grow fearful of Islamists
Her 62-year-old aunt told the BBC that the teenager had in fact been raped by three armed men - and she took Asha to the police station to report it.
Several days later, after two suspects had been arrested, she was asked to return to the station with her niece.
To her surprise the girl was taken into custody too.
"I tried to speak to the police but they said they were not talking," she said.
Three days later, after Asha had been tried in an Islamist court, she was stoned to death.
"They said that the girl had chatted up these men and had confessed to adultery," she said.
But the aunt said the authorities clearly failed to notice her age, how mentally disturbed she was by her experience, or her history of mental illness.
"She was only 13 years old. I have got her card from Hagarder refugee camp which has her age on it. She might have looked a bit older, but you could tell her age by talking to her," she said.
Law and order
Other critics point to the lack of lawyers, witnesses or appeal process.
The Islamists were reported to have announced their verdict the day before the stoning from cars with loudspeakers.
But Asha's aunt was not informed of the court's decision - despite repeated visits to the police station.
"I was not even told that she was to be killed, I just heard it from people after it happened.
"I don't know what crime she committed other than being raped; and I was not even allowed to see her body," she said.
Al-Shabab in Kismayo has refused attempts by the BBC to discuss the stoning.
}:( [Religion of Peace My Ass ... ]
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:51:38pm |
re: #135 gmsc
I disagree. A good pun is its own reword!
But this is such a caustic yarn. It's nothing but a crewel lye...
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Defogger Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:51:44pm |
re: #139 gmsc
Oh, groan.
With that, I am so outta here . . .
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:52:03pm |
re: #125 realwest
Thank you very much for that link. That is certainly something which is way overdue.
But I must say I sincerely hope that it doesn't reduce the amounts of charitable contributions folks make to the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) orgainization.
They are and have always been a fine, thoroughly upstanding orgainization which has genuinely helped thousands of disable American Veterans.
Agreed, but I think this is geared more toward Vets from OIF/OEF since most of us survive our injuries.
"During World War II, approximately 30% (almost one-third) of soldiers wounded in combat died from their wounds. In the Korean War, the number dropped to about 24%, and held steady at that rate through the Vietnam and Persian Gulf Wars. In the current action in Iraq, the number has dropped dramatically to just under 14%, or one in seven."
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dkorta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:52:24pm |
re: #119 gmsc
> Well. In 325, Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, and...
> Actually, I think that was an attempt to restore peace to the Empire.
> I wanna know everything that's happened up until now!
I don't think 3803 characters will suffice. But an interesting and relevant place to start could be "When Jesus Became God" by Richard E Rubenstein.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:52:54pm |
re: #140 victor_yugo
Add to that The One's history in a madrassa, and the intrigue deepens. In some quarters, he's seen as a Muslim, because no doubt he did say the shahada as a child. But in other quarters, he's seen as an apostate, because he now goes to a place that calls itself a "Christian church."
/retch
I doubt religion and spiritual belief has had a big influence on The One. Political power seems to be more His driving force, religion just a tool to achieve more power.
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esch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:53:18pm |
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:53:50pm |
The Germans are coming! Fortunately, its Afghanistan.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:54:18pm |
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Macker Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:54:41pm |
re: #19 gmsc
It would've been even more interesting if everybody was Kung Fu fighting!
Is that Gnarls Barkley?
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:55:15pm |
The Monks are brawling because . . .
Damn, I'm good at starting 'em, just can't get my mind to settle on one coherent ending.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:55:27pm |
Hey Real, just imagine if we could put half of the campaign money that was pissed away toward Veterans. Imagine what could have been accomplished.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:55:48pm |
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esch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:55:50pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:56:10pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:56:14pm |
re: #153 logboy
Hey Real, just imagine if we could put half of the campaign money that was pissed away toward Veterans. Imagine what could have been accomplished.
I'd take even 1% and not want for more for quite some time.
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victor_yugo Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:56:29pm |
re: #147 FurryOldGuyJeans
I doubt religion and spiritual belief has had a big influence on The One. Political power seems to be more His driving force, religion just a tool to achieve more power.
Like an Islamist cares about that.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:56:43pm |
Looks like the Tribune Co (owner of the LA Times) has had its credit rating cut by S&P to "CCC".
If they are hard up for cash, they can always sell a certain video tape.
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Cognito Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:57:26pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:57:51pm |
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:57:52pm |
re: #146 dkorta
Well. In 325, Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, and...
> Actually, I think that was an attempt to restore peace to the Empire.
> I wanna know everything that's happened up until now!
I don't think 3803 characters will suffice. But an interesting and relevant place to start could be "When Jesus Became God" by Richard E Rubenstein.
Obviously not an Airplane! fan. The correct answer is: "First the earth cooled. Then the dinosaurs came but were too big and died and everything got rotten and turned into oil and the Arabs bought Mercedes Benzs and then there was the best TV special on Judy Garland. Then we lost the war with Albania. Then..."
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Eclectic Infidel Tue, Nov 11, 2008 9:59:21pm |
Beautiful Chaos! Christians fighting Christians! Ave Discorida!
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:00:03pm |
re: #132 ggt
Thanks. I get that recommendation a lot. Don't have time for it in my life right now, but some day. I love Dobies.
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esch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:00:24pm |
re: #164 eclectic infidel
So...would that be verses versus verses?
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:02:34pm |
re: #164 eclectic infidel
Beautiful Chaos! Christians fighting Christians! Ave Discorida!
Heh - even when we fight each other, we can still kick you atheist guys' asses.
:-)
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:03:32pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:05:36pm |
re: #167 Noam Sayin'
Nite, Noam. Have a great day tomorrow.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:05:48pm |
re: #169 Intrepid
Heh - even when we fight each other, we can still kick you atheist guys' asses.
:-)
Rah rah ree,
Kick 'em in the knee!
Rah rah rass,
Kick 'em in the other knee!
Rah rah rass,
Kick 'em in the ass!
Rah rah ree,
Kick 'em in the other ass!
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Racer X Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:06:58pm |
I just have to say - I'm disappointed in the McCain bashing of late. Yep - he's a cranky old guy who is just not that charismatic. He put up a hell of a fight against The One™; I am not sure anyone else could have done better.
John McCain - thank you for your service to this great country!
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dkorta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:09:00pm |
re: #163 gmsc
> Obviously not an Airplane! fan. The correct answer is: "First the earth
> cooled. Then the dinosaurs came but were too big and died and
> verything got rotten and turned into oil and the Arabs bought
> Mercedes Benzs and then there was the best TV special on Judy
> Garland. Then we lost the war with Albania. Then..."
I remember stuff from that movie, but not that.
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Dustyvet Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:09:29pm |
In an ancient monastery in a faraway place, a new monk arrived to join his brothers in copying books and scrolls in the monastery's scriptorium. He was assigned as a rubricator on copies of books that had already been copied by hand. One day he, asked Father Florian (the Armarius of the Scriptorium), "Does not the copying by hand of other copies allow for chances of error? How do we know we are not copying the mistakes of someone else? Are they ever checked against the original?"
Fr. Florian is set back a bit by the obvious logical observation of this youthful monk. "A very good point, my son. I will take one of the latest books down to the vault and compare it against the original."
Fr. Florian went down to the secured vault and began his verification. After a day had passed, the monks began to worry and went down looking for the old priest. They were sure something must have happened. As they approached the vault, they heard sobbing and crying. When they opened the door, they found Fr. Florian sobbing over the new copy and the original ancient book, both of which opened before him on the table. It was obvious to all that the poor man had been crying his old heart out for a long time.
"What is the problem, Reverend Father?" asked one of the monks. "Oh, my Lord," sobbed the priest, "the word is 'celebrate'.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:10pm |
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ggt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:29pm |
weet dreams all!
RW --maybe we can catch-up tomorrow night LOL
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Dustyvet Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:10:46pm |
A man is driving down the road and breaks down near a monastery. He goes to the monastery, knocks on the door, and says, "My car broke down. Do you think I could stay the night?"
The monks graciously accept him, feed him dinner, and even fix his car. As the man tries to fall asleep, he hears a strange sound. The next morning, he asks the monks what the sound was but they say, "We can't tell you. You're not a monk."
The man is disappointed but thanks them anyway and goes about his merry way.
Some years later the same man breaks down in front of the same monastery. The monks again accept him, feed him, and even fix his car. That night, he hears the same strange noise that he had heard years earlier.
The next morning he asks what it is but the monks reply, "We can't tell you. You're not a monk."
The man says, "All right, all right. I'm dying to know. If the only way I can find out what that sound was is to become a monk, then how do I become a monk?"
The monks reply, "You must travel the earth and tell us how many blades of grass there are and the exact number of sand pebbles. When you find these numbers, you will become a monk."
The man sets about his task. Some forty-five years later, he returns and knocks on the door of the monastery. He says, "I have traveled the earth and have found what you have asked for. There are 256,897,103,145,236,284,232 blades of grass and 231,281,219,999,129,382,756,124,512,999 sand pebbles on the earth."
The monks reply, "Congratulations. You are now a monk. We shall now show you the way to the sound."
The monks lead the man to a wooden door, where the head monk says, "The sound is right behind that door."
The man turns the knob, and behind that door he is amazed to find the source of that strange sound.
But we can't tell you what it is because you're not a monk.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:11:34pm |
Agreed. I must say I am proud to have voted for the man. Any man who spends 5 1/2 years in a POW camp and still does his country proud has my vote. Thats a man that knows the true meaning selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage. A damn fine American.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:13:42pm |
re: #153 logboy Hell if we'd put half of McCain's money we'd a raised, iirc, something like $42 million dollars; if we'd put half of Obamas money we'd a raised about $340 million dollars.
So we would have had roughly $382 million to help disabled American Vets. That would have gone a long way to helping these men and women out.
And we wouldn't have had Obama winning the election as a bonus!
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:14:41pm |
re: #174 dkorta
Obviously not an Airplane! fan. The correct answer is: "First the earth
> cooled. Then the dinosaurs came but were too big and died and
> verything got rotten and turned into oil and the Arabs bought
> Mercedes Benzs and then there was the best TV special on Judy
> Garland. Then we lost the war with Albania. Then..."I remember stuff from that movie, but not that.
It's one of Johnny's lines from Airplane! 2.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:15:45pm |
re: #179 logboy
Agreed. I must say I am proud to have voted for the man. Any man who spends 5 1/2 years in a POW camp and still does his country proud has my vote. Thats a man that knows the true meaning selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage. A damn fine American.
In the end his service out weighs in my mind anything he has done as legislator that I disagree with.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:16:22pm |
re: #170 Killgore Trout
Heh - check out the other vids by the same contributor - they're great!
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dkorta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:16:41pm |
re: #181 gmsc
Ok. I'm pretty sure I've ever watched Airplane 2, 3, or 4.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:17:00pm |
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:17:15pm |
re: #154 Fenway_Nation
Sorry, but I went to your link and only got as far as
Now the former talk show host has co-directed and co-produced an independent film, "Body of War," about a disabled Iraq war veteran, Tomas Young, who questions the conflict's rationale.
and stopped reading. He has nothing worth hearing about veterans, they are not now and never have been high on his list of priorities as I'm sure you know.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:17:47pm |
re: #180 realwest
Hell if we'd put half of McCain's money we'd a raised, iirc, something like $42 million dollars; if we'd put half of Obamas money we'd a raised about $340 million dollars.
So we would have had roughly $382 million to help disabled American Vets. That would have gone a long way to helping these men and women out.
And we wouldn't have had Obama winning the election as a bonus!
They should pass a law, mandating 3% of all campaign money earned is given to nonprofits (1.5% dems use, 1.5% reps use). At least that way, we all win the election.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:18:15pm |
I received this email today:
Dear Fellow Business Owners,
As a business owner who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama is our next president, and that my Taxes and Fees will go up in a BIG way.
To compensate for these increases, I figure that the customer will have to see an increase in my fees to them of about 8%. I will also have to lay off six of my employees. This really bothered me as I believe we are family here and didn't know how to choose who will have to go.
So, this is what I did: I strolled thru the parking lot and found eight Obama bumper stickers on my employees cars. I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off.
I can't think of more fair way to approach this problem. If you have a better idea, let me know. I am sending this letter to all business owners that I know.
Can you say Obacklash?
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Aye Pod Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:18:30pm |
re: #109 Killgore Trout
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has been shut out in years past because she's an atheist.
That's seriously pathetic.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:18:30pm |
re: #156 ggt
Hey ggt! I'm doing ok, but meds have kicked in and I'm gonna have to leave shortly.
How are you all doing - has it been cold enough so your allergies have stopped bothering you?!
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quickredfox Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:19:18pm |
re: #37 Noam Sayin'
There is a good book that gives the story of the dogs named on the memorial -- "Always Faithful -- A Memoir of the Marine Dogs of World War II," by William W. Putney.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:19:28pm |
re: #186 realwest
Sorry, but I went to your link and only got as far as
and stopped reading. He has nothing worth hearing about veterans, they are not now and never have been high on his list of priorities as I'm sure you know.
Yea- imagine my shock.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:19:33pm |
re: #188 Racer X
I received this email today:
Can you say Obacklash?
It's gone up from 20 people last week!
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:20:13pm |
re: #193 quickredfox
There is a good book that gives the story of the dogs named on the memorial -- "Always Faithful -- A Memoir of the Marine Dogs of World War II," by William W. Putney.
Semper Fido?
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:21:14pm |
re: #196 jcm
Air Force, corpsman. Carter years.
I'm sorry. (For the Carter years, not the Air Force)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:21:30pm |
re: #187 logboy
They should pass a law, mandating 3% of all campaign money earned is given to nonprofits (1.5% dems use, 1.5% reps use). At least that way, we all win the election.
Politics are the real gainers in a down economy.
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dkorta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:22:09pm |
re: #185 gmsc
> Ok. I'm pretty sure I've ever watched Airplane 2, 3, or 4.
> Then you've heard it!
Heard what?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:22:49pm |
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Hawaiian cocoNUT Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:23:13pm |
Palestinian (hate) chickens come (Lord) home to roost.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:23:16pm |
re: #201 dkorta
> Ok. I'm pretty sure I've ever watched Airplane 2, 3, or 4.
> Then you've heard it!
Heard what?
Herd of cows?
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:23:28pm |
re: #198 logboy
I'm sorry. (For the Carter years, not the Air Force)
One of the reason I didn't stay in. The other was I was trying for PJ school, but blew my knee to shit training for the entrance test, bye bye to my shot at the school. Knee reconstructive just wasn't up to that task back then.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:24:15pm |
re: #202 FurryOldGuyJeans
*SHUDDER* (For the Carter years)
Pay cuts, benefit cuts, lack of resources. Not fun times.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:24:16pm |
re: #178 Dustyvet
ROTFLMAO! Loved that one (and the preceeding one, too!)! Oh and btw, there are in fact 231,281,219,999,129,382,756,124,512,998 sand pebbles on the earth.
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Timbre Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:24:30pm |
ARE YOU READY TO RELIGIOUSLY RUMBLE!?
Tonight's match: It's the Sepulchre Standoff; Eight way, last monk standing! Winner gets to ring the bell for the next month!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:25:05pm |
re: #206 jcm
Pay cuts, benefit cuts, lack of resources. Not fun times.
Lots of dope from what I've heard, though.
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quickredfox Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:25:08pm |
Here is an article about the war dog memorial on Guam.
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Aye Pod Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:25:49pm |
re: #110 Syrah
Custard pies at 10 paces.
Throw in the clint east-wood spaghetti western gunfight soundtracks and we could sell tickets.
"When the music stops, throw your pies."
I wonder if monks have ever had a food fight with moistened eucharists? I bet the young 'uns get up to all sorts of mischief.
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dkorta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:26:12pm |
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:26:51pm |
For all you WWJD types...
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Don't bring a sword to a spiritual fight.
Brawling in a church. Maybe it is "The End of Days".
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:26:58pm |
re: #187 logboy
I agree but would change it to 10%; 5% from each camp - in advance before they'd spent/borrowed it!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:27:45pm |
re: #214 realwest
I agree but would change it to 10%; 5% from each camp - in advance before they'd spent/borrowed it!
Egads, accurate book-keeping!
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:27:49pm |
re: #209 FurryOldGuyJeans
Lots of dope from what I've heard, though.
Smelled enough of it, for sure.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:28:37pm |
A man in the middle ages became fed up with humanity and decided to spend the rest of his life in a monastery. The abbot warned him that he would have to take a vow of silence and live the rest of his life as a scribe, to which the man replied, "No Problem. I'm sick of talking."
Ten years went by, and the abbot called for the man. He told him that he was a model monk and perfect scribe, and that they were very happy to have him. As per their tradition, he was allowed to say two words. Asked if he had anything to say, the man nodded and said: "Food cold."
The abbot sent him on his way. Ten years later, he was brought before the abbot again and once again told how pleased they were with his performance, and that he was again allowed two more words if he so chose. The man said: "Bed hard," and was sent back to work.
Another ten years went by and again the abbot sent for the man, telling him that he was the best monk they had ever had, and that he was allowed another two words. The man nodded and said: "I quit."
To this, the abbot replied in a disgusted tone: "Doesn't surprise me. You've done nothing but complain since you got here."
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:29:20pm |
More on the Disabled Veterans Memorial:
Adding to the beauty of our nation’s capital, the American Veterans Disabled for Life Memorial will soon become one of our country’s treasured landmarks, bringing together visitors of all ages and backgrounds—a fitting tribute to the brave men and women who stand watch over America.
Commanding an impressive two-acre site between Washington Avenue SW (Canal Street), C Street SW and Second Street SW, the memorial will be within full view of the United States Capitol, adjacent to the National Mall, and across from Independence Avenue and the United States Botanic Garden.
The Memorial was sponsored by Senator John McCain (AZ), former Senator Max Cleland (GA), and Representatives Sam Jonson (TX) and John Murtha (PA)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:29:31pm |
re: #216 jcm
Smelled enough of it, for sure.
My thanks for your service from this Gulf War 1 disabled Clinton med-retired airdale swabbo ;)
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:29:59pm |
re: #213 IslandLibertarian
For all you WWJD types...
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Don't bring a sword to a spiritual fight.
Brawling in a church. Maybe it is "The End of Days".
Uhm, what is the reference there?
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:30:32pm |
re: #212 dkorta
Heard what?
> Herd of cows?
Herd of Sheep
How many name collective names for animals can you name in 5 minutes?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:30:37pm |
When a good Veteran leaves the 'job' and retires to a better life, many are jealous, some are pleased and others, who may have already retired, wonder if he knows what he is leaving behind, because we already know.
We know, for example, that after a lifetime of camaraderie that few experience, it will remain as a longing for those past times.
We know in the Military Life there is a fellowship which lasts long after the uniforms are hung up in the back of the closet. We know even if he throws them away, they will be on him with every step and breath that remains in his life. We also know how the very bearing of the man speaks of what he was and in his heart still is.
These are the burdens of the job. You will still look at people suspiciously, still see what others do not see or choose to ignore and always will look at the rest of the Military world with a respect for
what they do; only grown in a lifetime of knowing.
Never think for one moment you are escaping from that life. You are only escaping a 'job' and merely being allowed to leave 'active' duty.
So what I wish for you is that whenever you ease into retirement, in your heart you never forget for one moment that 'Blessed are the Peacemakers for they shall be called children of God,' and you are still a member of the greatest fraternity the world has ever known.
Civilian Friends vs. Veteran Friends
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Get upset if you're too busy to talk to them for a week.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Are glad to see you after years, and will happily carry on the same conversation you were having the last time you met.
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Have never seen you cry.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Have cried with you.
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Borrow your stuff for a few days then give it back.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Keep your stuff so long they forget it's yours.
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Know a few things about you.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Could write a book with direct quotes from you.
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will leave you behind if that's what the crowd is doing.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Will kick the crowds' ass that left you behind.
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Are for a while.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Are for a lifetime.
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Have shared a few experiences...
VETERAN FRIENDS: Have shared a lifetime of experiences no citizen could ever dream of...
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will take your drink away when they think you've had enough.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Will look at you stumbling all over the place and say, 'You better drink the rest of that before you spill it!' Then carry you home safely and put you to bed ...
CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will talk crap to the person who talks crap about you.
VETERAN FRIENDS: Will knock the hell out of them --- for using your name in vain.
A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
From one Veteran to another, it's an honor to be in your Company.
Thank you Veteran!
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:31:13pm |
re: #200 logboy
Well me and mom put out our flag, and at 11:00 AM Sharp lit a candle for her father and for her husband (my grandfather and my father) but that was really all.
Neither one of us is in shape to go to any parades there might have been and frankly, we can't afford the cab fare to and from the VA hospital we went to last year and the year before.
So it was a very quiet day for us.
How about yourself?
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:31:30pm |
re: #219 FurryOldGuyJeans
My thanks for your service from this Gulf War 1 disabled Clinton med-retired airdale swabbo ;)
I was never in harms way, it is I who thank all you guys who went into combat arms, and went there and did that.
Thank you.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:32:44pm |
re: #224 jcm
I was never in harms way, it is I who thank all you guys who went into combat arms, and went there and did that.
Thank you.
Hell yeah you were in Harm's Way...called Carter! ;)
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:34:58pm |
re: #218 logboy
Murtha? Is he trying to get forgiveness for his sins or something?
Seriously, though, I went on the virtual tour that you posted above. That's going to be a lovely memorial. I loved the star with the flames in the middle of the water.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:35:40pm |
re: #225 FurryOldGuyJeans
Hell yeah you were in Harm's Way...called Carter! ;)
LOL!
I never thought of it that way. I hold another grudge against Rabbit Bait. Friends I grew up in Iran are dead because he sold them out.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:36:06pm |
re: #213 IslandLibertarian
For all you WWJD types...
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Don't bring a sword to a spiritual fight.
Brawling in a church. Maybe it is "The End of Days".
re: #220 Intrepid
Uhm, what is the reference there?
You still here?
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Karridine Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:36:28pm |
Whenever two people are arguing about religion, they're both wrong!
Sir 'Abdu-l Baha Abbas
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Catttt Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:37:11pm |
I know brawls are, like, bad and stuff, but I'm going to admit that I got a kick out of this. It's a combo of the man bites dog nature of the story and the Irish in me.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:37:22pm |
re: #226 Pvt Bin Jammin
Murtha? Is he trying to get forgiveness for his sins or something?
Seriously, though, I went on the virtual tour that you posted above. That's going to be a lovely memorial. I loved the star with the flames in the middle of the water.
Thats from the Clinton years, before he tried to hang our boys out to dry.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:37:40pm |
re: #228 jcm
LOL!
I never thought of it that way. I hold another grudge against Rabbit Bait. Friends I grew up in Iran are dead because he sold them out.
I have a few buddies I won't be seeing again thanks to Billie and his outreach military.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:38:53pm |
re: #220 Intrepid
Uhm, what is the reference there?
The reference is Jesus response to a fight. Fairly straight forward.
Matthew 26: 52,53
Clear?
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:39:33pm |
re: #223 realwest
Well me and mom put out our flag, and at 11:00 AM Sharp lit a candle for her father and for her husband (my grandfather and my father) but that was really all.
Neither one of us is in shape to go to any parades there might have been and frankly, we can't afford the cab fare to and from the VA hospital we went to last year and the year before.
So it was a very quiet day for us.
How about yourself?
I spent 8 hours driving today so I could speak to a group of about 400 high school students and maybe 20-30 vets in northern MN. I'm glad I did it, but man my head is pounding right now.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:40:12pm |
re: #227 dkorta
That's good.
That's one of my two favorite monk jokes. Here's the other one:
In an ancient monastery in a faraway place, a new monk arrived to join his brothers in copying books and scrolls in the monastery's scriptorium. He was assigned as a rubricator on copies of books that had already been copied by hand. One day he, asked Father Florian (the Armarius of the Scriptorium), "Does not the copying by hand of other copies allow for chances of error? How do we know we are not copying the mistakes of someone else? Are they ever checked against the original?"
Fr. Florian is set back a bit by the obvious logical observation of this youthful monk. "A very good point, my son. I will take one of the latest books down to the vault and compare it against the original."
Fr. Florian went down to the secured vault and began his verification. After a day had passed, the monks began to worry and went down looking for the old priest. They were sure something must have happened. As they approached the vault, they heard sobbing and crying. When they opened the door, they found Fr. Florian sobbing over the new copy and the original ancient book, both of which opened before him on the table. It was obvious to all that the poor man had been crying his old heart out for a long time.
"What is the problem, Reverend Father?" asked one of the monks. "Oh, my Lord," sobbed the priest, "the word is 'celebrate'.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:40:48pm |
re: #233 FurryOldGuyJeans
I have a few buddies I won't be seeing again thanks to Billie and his outreach military.
Yeah, remember out by Christmas?
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Timbre Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:41:19pm |
A Benedictine, a Dominican, A Franciscan, and a Cistercian began arguing about how best to change the light bulb in the vestibule. The Benedictine said, "We should pray and meditate on this challenge, asking for Divine Guidance." The Dominican said, "No, Brothers, we should open a school here and teach, thus ending up with dozens of students who could change light bulbs." The Franciscan said, "No, No, there is too much light in this monastery anyway. We should give most of the light bulbs to the poor." The Cistercian climbed down from the ladder with the old bulb in his hand, the vestibule now brightly lit, and said, "You all were arguing so much I couldn't hear you. What were you saying?
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:41:56pm |
Ever notice how its always vets here around this time? I like that. LGF seems to take on a more common tone amongst us.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:41:56pm |
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:42:02pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:43:00pm |
re: #241 IslandLibertarian
No, I'm here.
Just what the hell are you doing all the way over there!?! ;)
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:43:39pm |
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:44:04pm |
There once was a monastery that was very strict. Following a vow of silence, no one was allowed to speak at all. But there was one exception to this rule. Every ten years, the monks were permitted to speak just two words. After spending his first ten years at the monastery, one monk went to the head monk. “It has been ten years,” said the head monk. “What are the two words you would like to speak?”
“Bed… hard…” said the monk.
“I see,” replied the head monk.
Ten years later, the monk returned to the head monk’s office. “It has been ten more years,” said the head monk. “What are the two words you would like to speak?”
“Food… stinks…” said the monk.
“I see,” replied the head monk.
Yet another ten years passed and the monk once again met with the head monk who asked, “What are your two words now, after these ten years?”
“I… quit!” said the monk.
“Well, I can see why,” replied the head monk. “All you ever do is complain.”
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Dustyvet Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:44:06pm |
re: #207 realwest
ROTFLMAO! Loved that one (and the preceeding one, too!)! Oh and btw, there are in fact 231,281,219,999,129,382,756,124,512,998 sand pebbles on the earth.
Thanks Real...:) But there's only one Sand Pebble..., Steve McQueen was in it...:) (rim shot)
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:45:17pm |
re: #217 gmsc
re: #244 jcm
There once was a monastery that was very strict. Following a vow of silence, no one was allowed to speak at all. But there was one exception to this rule. Every ten years, the monks were permitted to speak just two words. After spending his first ten years at the monastery, one monk went to the head monk. “It has been ten years,” said the head monk. “What are the two words you would like to speak?”
“Bed… hard…” said the monk.
“I see,” replied the head monk.
Ten years later, the monk returned to the head monk’s office. “It has been ten more years,” said the head monk. “What are the two words you would like to speak?”“Food… stinks…” said the monk.
“I see,” replied the head monk.
Yet another ten years passed and the monk once again met with the head monk who asked, “What are your two words now, after these ten years?”
“I… quit!” said the monk.
“Well, I can see why,” replied the head monk. “All you ever do is complain.”
GMTA!
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:45:43pm |
re: #226 Pvt Bin Jammin
Murtha? Is he trying to get forgiveness for his sins or something?
Seriously, though, I went on the virtual tour that you posted above. That's going to be a lovely memorial. I loved the star with the flames in the middle of the water.
You have it wrong too. We officially changed his name to "John Fucking Murtha" when used on LGF.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:45:54pm |
re: #242 FurryOldGuyJeans
Everybody's got to be somewhere...
Wherever I go, there I am.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:46:44pm |
re: #224 jcm
Hey JCM - I recall posting this somewhere before, maybe on the overnight or on the Veterans Day Thread, but, speaking as a former infrantryman, I have a great deal of respect for all those medics, truck drivers, cooks, mail clerks, payroll and transfrer order clerks, and ever "Rear Echelon Mother Fucker" or "REMF" as we fondly called 'em, cause without them, we'd a been eating grass, throwing stones, instead of lead, and woulda bled out from wounds - and we are very aware that, at least in my experience in Vietnam, the REMF's were mortared, rocketed and shot out during the course of their duties as well. We all served and we are all brothers (and now sisters as well, but not in Vietnam, damnit!).
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Dustyvet Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:47:16pm |
Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!
John Belushi
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:47:23pm |
re: #238 Timbre
A Benedictine, a Dominican, A Franciscan, and a Cistercian began arguing about how best to change the light bulb in the vestibule. The Benedictine said, "We should pray and meditate on this challenge, asking for Divine Guidance." The Dominican said, "No, Brothers, we should open a school here and teach, thus ending up with dozens of students who could change light bulbs." The Franciscan said, "No, No, there is too much light in this monastery anyway. We should give most of the light bulbs to the poor." The Cistercian climbed down from the ladder with the old bulb in his hand, the vestibule now brightly lit, and said, "You all were arguing so much I couldn't hear you. What were you saying?
A priest, a Catholic minister, and a rabbi walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this? Some sort of joke?"
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:47:49pm |
re: #245 Dustyvet
Thanks Real...:) But there's only one Sand Pebble..., Steve McQueen was in it...:) (rim shot)
*BUZZ* It is The Sand Pebbles, plural ;)
Another great Robert Wise film.
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gmsc Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:09pm |
re: #253 Dustyvet
Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!
John Belushi
Technically speaking, that is true!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:25pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:26pm |
re: #249 logboy
You have it wrong too. We officially changed his name to "John Fucking Murtha" when used on LGF.
I've got my "mind right" now boss. John Fucking Murtha, indeed.
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Dustyvet Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:27pm |
re: #255 FurryOldGuyJeans
*BUZZ* It is The Sand Pebbles, plural ;)
Another great Robert Wise film.
I'll try and keep up...:)
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:29pm |
So, no BBQ's? No day at the park with the kids? What better way to thank a VET then to ENJOY the freedoms that our VETS have ensured for us with their SACRIFICE! Go to a movie, go do something that you would not do on any other day BECAUSE YOU CAN! THAT is the way to thank a VET! WE ARE FREE TO DO AS WE PLEASE BECAUSE OF YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US!
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:40pm |
re: #252 realwest
Hey JCM - I recall posting this somewhere before, maybe on the overnight or on the Veterans Day Thread, but, speaking as a former infrantryman, I have a great deal of respect for all those medics, truck drivers, cooks, mail clerks, payroll and transfrer order clerks, and ever "Rear Echelon Mother Fucker" or "REMF" as we fondly called 'em, cause without them, we'd a been eating grass, throwing stones, instead of lead, and woulda bled out from wounds - and we are very aware that, at least in my experience in Vietnam, the REMF's were mortared, rocketed and shot out during the course of their duties as well. We all served and we are all brothers (and now sisters as well, but not in Vietnam, damnit!).
Thanks.
Coming from you that means a lot.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:48:45pm |
re: #235 logboy Good on you for doing that - 8 hours of driving and a pounding headache is peanuts for all the good you did today.
Thank you.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:50:04pm |
re: #234 IslandLibertarian
The reference is Jesus response to a fight. Fairly straight forward.
Matthew 26: 52,53
Clear?
My Bible says that Mathew 26:52-56 says:
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
That's the whole paragraph of the specific quote you posted. Take the whole context into consideration when you quote scripture. It's been a down fall of many when they don't.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:50:19pm |
A rabbi, a priest, and a minister are discussing what they do with donations to their respective religious organizations. The minister says that he draws a circle on the floor, throws the money up in the air, and whatever lands in the circle, he gives to God, and whatever lands outside the circle, he keeps.
The priest uses a similar method. He draws the circle, but whatever lands outside the circle, he gives to God, and whatever lands inside, he keeps.
The rabbi has a slightly different method of dividing the money. He throws all the money up in the air. Whatever God wants, he keeps...
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:51:46pm |
re: #252 realwest
Hey JCM - I recall posting this somewhere before, maybe on the overnight or on the Veterans Day Thread, but, speaking as a former infrantryman, I have a great deal of respect for all those medics, truck drivers, cooks, mail clerks, payroll and transfrer order clerks, and ever "Rear Echelon Mother Fucker" or "REMF" as we fondly called 'em, cause without them, we'd a been eating grass, throwing stones, instead of lead, and woulda bled out from wounds - and we are very aware that, at least in my experience in Vietnam, the REMF's were mortared, rocketed and shot out during the course of their duties as well. We all served and we are all brothers (and now sisters as well, but not in Vietnam, damnit!).
You said it two nights ago when I asked everyone to state whether they were a POG or a Grunt. And yes, you're right. Although I still find it hard to give respect to the MP Airmen who drove around my base all day writing BS tickets. The same goes for the chowhall nazis who won't let you in to eat without your PT belt.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:51:52pm |
re: #258 Pvt Bin Jammin
AHEM - "We"? - I distinctly recall being the first LGFer to call him John Fucking Murtha and would correct ANYONE I saw writing his name in any other way!
One of my proudest achievements on LGF! LOL!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:52:29pm |
re: #266 jcm
Hey! I resemble that statement!
If you didn't I would have to start doubting my sanity. Oh wait, what sanity?
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:52:42pm |
re: #236 gmsc
Don't like much "Monk Jokes"...
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:53:28pm |
re: #269 FurryOldGuyJeans
If you didn't I would have to start doubting my sanity. Oh wait, what sanity?
I haven't lost my mind...
It's back up on a hard drive...
Somewhere...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:54:20pm |
re: #271 jcm
I haven't lost my mind...
It's back up on a hard drive...
Somewhere...
I have mine on some index cards somewhere
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:56:36pm |
re: #264 Intrepid
Listen up pilgrim.
You are not mt spiritual adviser nor my Bible teacher. I knew damned well the context of the verses. Did it occur to you why I was able to site that scripture? Would I be out of line to tell you that at one time I studied for the ministry and was an assistant pastor for a year?...that I've read the Bible through 7 times?
Remember the mote and the beam pilgrim.
/or at least, lighten up.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:58:01pm |
re: #274 IslandLibertarian
Ooooh! Slappy fight! ;)
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 10:58:03pm |
Calm down Intrepid and IslandLibertarian, or go to your seperate corners!
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Dustyvet Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:00:38pm |
re: #275 FurryOldGuyJeans
Ooooh! Slappy fight! ;)
When archaeologists discover the missing arms of Venus de Milo, they will find she was wearing boxing gloves.
John Barrymore
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:00:57pm |
re: #267 logboy
You said it two nights ago when I asked everyone to state whether they were a POG or a Grunt. And yes, you're right. Although I still find it hard to give respect to the MP Airmen who drove around my base all day writing BS tickets. The same goes for the chowhall nazis who won't let you in to eat without your PT belt.
I served, but I tell you there I stand in awe of those who've been there and done that.
I ran into a greeter at Walmart wearing a WWII hat, while my wife was shopping I talked him up. He was a beach master on Iwo, knowing my history, knowing beach masters stood there and directed traffic on the beach in middle of all that shit. He wasn't technically a combat troop, but a loggie, making sure all the stuff got to where it belonged while under fire.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:01:22pm |
re: #268 realwest
LOL Good for you, Realwest. John Fucking Kerry must have been tfk's first.
God Bless all of our Veterans. Thank you for keeping us free.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:01:22pm |
re: #275 FurryOldGuyJeans
It' obvious Intrepid didn't catch the "don't bring a sword to a spiritual fight" nuance.
/Must be a Baptist...oh I'm gunna' catch it now...
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:01:29pm |
re: #272 FurryOldGuyJeans
I have mine on some index cards somewhere
Old school! Here let me turn on this fan while you look for that...
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dkorta Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:02:36pm |
re: #236 gmsc
Yeah, this joke just doesn't do it for me. I'm possibly too removed from the Roman Catholic faith, and don't see where the word "celibacy" as opposed to "celebrant" could ever have been confused in the literature to a meaningful extent. I mean, where would "celibacy" as opposed to "celebrant" even be mentioned in the Bible? Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but these thoughts do intrude.
But the thing about the Abbot and the Monk. Now that was believable. And funny.
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realwest Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:03:37pm |
Well all y'all it's been a grand day today - I do want to thank CHARLES SO MUCH for putting up Old Glory and the poppy, on the LGF masthead, as well as providing an entire thread, for Veterans Day.
Thank you Charles.
But I'm beat and must go to sleep now. I surely hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:04:06pm |
re: #281 jcm
Old school! Here let me turn on this fan while you look for that...
Nah, I stored them safe in the bin underneath the shredder a few years ago.
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jcm Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:04:37pm |
re: #284 FurryOldGuyJeans
Nah, I stored them safe in the bin underneath the shredder a few years ago.
ROFL!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:05:07pm |
re: #282 dkorta
Celebrate and Celibate. Now say them out loud. ;)
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:06:36pm |
re: #273 realwest
2 6 0, by the way, how go the war with your tripe? Got my Flex-Sig day before, can I say VIOLATED (no drugs, just a "HOW-DE DO") to being an older gent...
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:06:48pm |
re: #274 IslandLibertarian
Listen up pilgrim.
You are not mt spiritual adviser nor my Bible teacher. I knew damned well the context of the verses. Did it occur to you why I was able to site that scripture? Would I be out of line to tell you that at one time I studied for the ministry and was an assistant pastor for a year?...that I've read the Bible through 7 times?
Remember the mote and the beam pilgrim./or at least, lighten up.
Sorry, have I ever said I was your "spiritual adviser"? You quoted scripture TO ME, and I quoted the context back to you. Never did I claim any kind of "adviser" role over you, dude/dudette.
I was a missionary for 20 years, so I have also studied scripture. Trained it it extensively. I lived it in foreign lands, where being a "Christian" was not acceptable. Often was ridiculed for my faith. Sometimes had to hide it because of danger.
So perhaps you should consider the whole mote/beam thing over again.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:08:34pm |
re: #278 jcm
I served, but I tell you there I stand in awe of those who've been there and done that.
I ran into a greeter at Walmart wearing a WWII hat, while my wife was shopping I talked him up. He was a beach master on Iwo, knowing my history, knowing beach masters stood there and directed traffic on the beach in middle of all that shit. He wasn't technically a combat troop, but a loggie, making sure all the stuff got to where it belonged while under fire.
I must say the WWII guys have my utmost respect (as do all Vets). Many were gone 4 years at a time. And the fighting they endured? I feel negligible in comparison. My grandfather (rest his soul) had a scar on his arm where a Jap bit him in hand to hand fighting. My grandfather got him with his knife. My grandma told me that story. He never mentioned any of it to us.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:08:54pm |
re: #289 FurryOldGuyJeans
Lighten up, Francis ;)
Sorry, but I will not apologize for what I have done. Especially in light of someone who called me out.
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logboy Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:09:04pm |
re: #283 realwest
Well all y'all it's been a grand day today - I do want to thank CHARLES SO MUCH for putting up Old Glory and the poppy, on the LGF masthead, as well as providing an entire thread, for Veterans Day.
Thank you Charles.
But I'm beat and must go to sleep now. I surely hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.Good night, all.
Night, see you tomorrow.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:10:34pm |
re: #291 Intrepid
You better uncork your sphincter before you explode. He was joking at ya.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:11:47pm |
re: #293 FurryOldGuyJeans
You better uncork your sphincter before you explode. He was joking at ya.
Was he? Then let him say so. And why place the onus on me to "uncork my sphincter"?
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:12:32pm |
re: #288 Intrepid
So perhaps you should consider the whole mote/beam thing over again.
No.
You started it.
And you're really angry about something that has nothing to do with me.
I didn't quote scripture to YOU (it's not all about you).
I was just going along with the humor of the thread.
Lighten Up!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:12:48pm |
re: #294 Intrepid
Ok, keep that rod up your butt. No skin off my nose for trying.
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:14:42pm |
re: #296 IslandLibertarian
Your "Call Sign" speaks mounds, but mounds of ...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:16:05pm |
re: #298 nightwatch
Your "Call Sign" speaks mounds, but mounds of ...
chewy coconut and dark chocolate?
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:16:40pm |
re: #291 Intrepid
Sorry, but I will not apologize for what I have done. Especially in light of someone who called me out.
You called me out pilgrim.
And you are wound way too tight.
God Bless you for your missionary work.
But you've got some chip on your shoulder.
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Adina in Judea Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:17:32pm |
Jewish humor tends to be self-deprecating humor.
Here's one...
A lady is walking down the street with her two young children and she runs into an old family friend who stops to say hello.
"Mrs. Lebowitz - it's so nice to see you and your children! How old are they now?"
"Hello! The doctor is three and the lawyer is two!"
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:19:08pm |
re: #298 nightwatch
Your "Call Sign" speaks mounds, but mounds of ...
Sorry, I'm not clairvoyant. I need the complete sentence to know if I've been insulted or complimented.
But to be honest, your opinion of me is none of my business,
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:10pm |
re: #302 IslandLibertarian
You a Babylon 5 fan? If so, then you know all about Night Watch. ;)
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:56pm |
Hey, I think I'll be up...ALL NIGHT, better to kill a thread goin south
may use the HIY...no, HIT...fill in the rest anolog to auger this thing to ground...YA know My FREEDOM...thank a VET... THANK A VET!
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I heart the USA Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:15pm |
Oh, dear, did I just walk in on Monks Brawl, part deux?
[ Just tryin' to lighten things up a bit :-) ]
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:34pm |
re: #296 IslandLibertarian
So perhaps you should consider the whole mote/beam thing over again.
No.
You started it.
And you're really angry about something that has nothing to do with me.
I didn't quote scripture to YOU (it's not all about you).
I was just going along with the humor of the thread.
Lighten Up!
Your post #213:
Your post For all you WWJD types...
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Don't bring a sword to a spiritual fight.
Brawling in a church. Maybe it is "The End of Days".
That was the beginning, for me. I then brought the fuller context of the quote up. You ridiculed what I posted by stating you trained to be a minister. Then I told you of my experience in being a missionary.
Now others have come in and said "let it go". I'll agree with them. I'll let it go.
But honestly, I am feeling slighted more than a bit. And if you're a "trained minister", then you'll understand what I'm saying.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:24pm |
re: #303 FurryOldGuyJeans
Not a fan of B5. So in the dark about NightWatch.
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:29:51pm |
re: #302 IslandLibertarian
Sorry , just wanted to splash in the pool, I pray, work hard, yet have to be subjected to the NEWS on a daily basis these past few days, enough to make one of a "conscious" mind, swallow a pistol barrel in short order.
"Hell in a handbasket" they said years ago...
Hell indeed
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:30:47pm |
re: #283 realwest
Nite, Realwest. I just sent you a long e-mail. You don't have to read it tonight. LOL
I loved the flag and the poppy, too, Charles, meant to say that earlier. I visit my home town every Armed Forces Day (third weekend in May). They always sell the little poppies. In all my years in California I have never seen one of those little poppies except for the ones that I bring from home.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:33:10pm |
re: #306 Intrepid
You feel slighted because you choose to be slighted.
Where was your righteous indignation upthread with all the "My Jesus can beat up your Jesus" comments?
Well, I was just funnin' too, and then you jump in all "Billy Sunday" with your "DOWNFALL" blather. all serious and all.
And I understand all too clear what you are saying.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:35:44pm |
re: #307 IslandLibertarian
Not a fan of B5. So in the dark about NightWatch.
Suffice it to say that J. Michael Strazynski (Creator/Exec Producer B5) was very fond of using Orwellian ideas in B5. B5 is very 1984 in some respects.
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:40:18pm |
re: #307 IslandLibertarian
American, Conservative, Catholic, Vet, Father of many off-spring, who I will raise to be of similar creed, son who serves on 4th tour in IRAQ, lizard of many years who has been a FLAME-THROWER on more than one occasion (Just ask Charles)...what else ya wANT TO know?
"Blink-Blink?"
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:41:01pm |
You guys are scaring me with the guns in the mouth stuff.
I'm out. I love all the lizards. Somehow, let's just keep on "going on".
Happy Veterans Day and thanks to all of the vets.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:42:26pm |
re: #313 nightwatch
I'll say a prayer for your son.
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nightwatch Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:44:42pm |
re: #315 IslandLibertarian
Say a prayer for yourself...
I've already said mine.
P.S by the way, about HITLER...
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:45:30pm |
re: #310 IslandLibertarian
You feel slighted because you choose to be slighted.
Where was your righteous indignation upthread with all the "My Jesus can beat up your Jesus" comments?
Well, I was just funnin' too, and then you jump in all "Billy Sunday" with your "DOWNFALL" blather. all serious and all.
And I understand all too clear what you are saying.
Sorry? "My Jesus can beat up your Jesus?" What the heck are you talking about?
And "Billy Sunday"? What the heck?
I just posted my opinion. You did too. No "Downfall" crap at all!
Yikes. There seems to be a massive misunderstanding here.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:53:32pm |
That's the whole paragraph of the specific quote you posted. Take the whole context into consideration when you quote scripture. It's been a down fall of many when they don't.
..said you.
Sorry? "My Jesus can beat up your Jesus?" What the heck are you talking about?
Look up thread.
And "Billy Sunday"? What the heck?
Do some homework.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:54:33pm |
re: #318 IslandLibertarian
That's the whole paragraph of the specific quote you posted. Take the whole context into consideration when you quote scripture. It's been a down fall of many when they don't.
..said you.
Sorry? "My Jesus can beat up your Jesus?" What the heck are you talking about?
Look up thread.
And "Billy Sunday"? What the heck?
Do some homework.
Sorry - quote the post. I'd like to see the post.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:56:50pm |
here it is
re: #264 Intrepid
That's the whole paragraph of the specific quote you posted. Take the whole context into consideration when you quote scripture. It's been a down fall of many when they don't.
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Intrepid Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:58:57pm |
re: #318 IslandLibertarian
That's the whole paragraph of the specific quote you posted. Take the whole context into consideration when you quote scripture. It's been a down fall of many when they don't.
..said you.
Sorry? "My Jesus can beat up your Jesus?" What the heck are you talking about?
Look up thread.
And "Billy Sunday"? What the heck?
Do some homework.
You're nuts. Seriously.
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Intrepid Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:00:17am |
re: #320 IslandLibertarian
here it is
Yes, and I offered the whole context of the scripture as a reference.
Yet you did not - you cherry picked.
Weren't you taught not to do that in your training?
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IslandLibertarian Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:01:33am |
YOUR WORDS:
re: #264 Intrepid
That's the whole paragraph of the specific quote you posted. Take the whole context into consideration when you quote scripture. It's been a down fall of many when they don't.
but he that says to his brother RACCA, (Thou fool), he is in danger of hellfire.
You really have issues.
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Intrepid Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:06:09am |
re: #323 IslandLibertarian
YOUR WORDS:
re: #264 IntrepidThat's the whole paragraph of the specific quote you posted. Take the whole context into consideration when you quote scripture. It's been a down fall of many when they don't.
but he that says to his brother RACCA, (Thou fool), he is in danger of hellfire.
You really have issues.
Sorry, but it't not I who has the issue, it is you. Have I called you a "fool"? No, I have not.
I have, however, debated with you about your beliefs. That is not the same as calling you a "fool". It is healthy debate.
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IslandLibertarian Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:23:41am |
re: #324 Intrepid
Sorry, but it't not I who has the issue, it is you. Have I called you a "fool"? No, I have not.
Yes you did.
You're nuts. Seriously.I have, however, debated with you about your beliefs. That is not the same as calling you a "fool". It is healthy debate.
And we're not debating my beliefs.
There is no debate.
You jumped me, I slapped you back.
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YMedad Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:56:07am |
I posted this at LGF on Sunday: [Link: myrightword.blogspot.com...]
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John Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:29:43am |
Just wait until BO is President. Time magazine seems to think he's Jesus.
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Elcid Wed, Nov 12, 2008 5:06:34am |
They damn sure are not Shaolin Monks. In fact, I didn't see a good right cross (pun intended).
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duketheinfidel Wed, Nov 12, 2008 5:45:13am |
Looks like it was a great night of Championship Wrestling!
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PayBackTime Wed, Nov 12, 2008 5:53:33am |
Can't we all just get along? -- Rodney King
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quickjustice Wed, Nov 12, 2008 6:51:04am |
Reminds me of Jesus' commandment to his disciples: "Love one another."
And like these guys, they disobeyed him.
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Daisy Wed, Nov 12, 2008 7:18:45am |
Who won? I'm beginning to wonder if there's something in the drinking water in the ME that causes severe wackiness.
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Daisy Wed, Nov 12, 2008 7:22:59am |
re: #302 IslandLibertarian
"But to be honest, your opinion of me is none of my business"
That's serious wisdom.
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amateurpundit Wed, Nov 12, 2008 10:45:26am |
Ladies and gentlemen, let us all take a moment out of our busy days to feel superior for a moment.
For the Israelis who are constantly condescended to by the Jimmy Carters of the world with the message that if we Jews would only embrace the message of Jesus's love, everything would sort itself out, it must have been secretly satisfying to have to sort THIS out between people to whom Jesus's love is the most important thing on earth.
I am not being sarcastic, not really. Life is complicated. Christians fought bloody wars for centuries. But they preach peace. Should they have stopped preaching peace? Of course not.
Moral? Listen carefully:
I AM NOT A HYPOCRITE WHEN I'M DOING SOMETHING RIGHT: I'M A HYPOCRITE WHEN I DO SOMETHING WRONG. Peace be upon all lovers of peace.
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the_flying_pig Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:35:16pm |
Religion of peace!
Oh, wait... wrong religion.
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