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Open | Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:08:07 pm PST

The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best.

Henry Van Dyke

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1 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:12:06pm

What if we cut down all the trees?

2 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:14:02pm

Pardon me lizards, is this the 11:08 thread to nowhere in particular?

3 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:14:16pm

I almost forgot my traditional Veteran's day post.

I still have a little time since I'm on the west coast.

In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
In Flanders Fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

4 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:14:52pm

re: #2 Fenway_Nation

Pardon me lizards, is this the 11:08 thread to nowhere in particular?

Albuquerque isn't it? Midnight express?

5 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:14:52pm

re: #1 logboy

What if we cut down all the trees?

Earth First! Log the other planets later.

6 RTLM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:16:04pm

And - another Star Trek motion picture.

LINK

7 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:16:23pm

re: #3 JCM

I almost forgot my traditional Veteran's day post.

I still have a little time since I'm on the west coast.

In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
In Flanders Fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

That's an excellent one. I put that one on my site yesterday. That and "A Pittance of Time", another favorite.

8 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:17:47pm

re: #5 JCM

Earth First! Log the other planets later.

Q: How many loggers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: They can't do it, the light will disturb the spotted owls

9 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:17:58pm
The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best.


eh. The hawks, owls, and stray cats will get the noisy birds anyway.

10 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:20:35pm

re: #8 logboy

Q: How many loggers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: They can't do it, the light will disturb the spotted owls

Down here we have to "worry" about the cockaded woodpecker. Entire areas of the training areas are closed off because of these damn birds. The environmentalists say it is because they only nest in older growth and all the older growth around here is all on the Army base. I had a cockaded woodpecker living in the tree over my house down here and it nested and bred quite well thank you.

11 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:20:45pm

re: #8 logboy

Q: How many loggers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: They can't do it, the light will disturb the spotted owls

I loved the bumper stickers we had on logging trucks around here.

SPOTTED OWL MOBILE HOME

12 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:18pm

Collective Intelligence

I say let's get ahead of curve and ...........as my mom used to say "use it or lose it:"
Move along, nothing to see here/

13 wiffersnapper  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:37pm

Spread the sound around.

14 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:21:56pm

re: #11 JCM

I loved the bumper stickers we had on logging trucks around here.

SPOTTED OWL MOBILE HOME

Are them "stick trucks" as dangerous there as they are here? They get paid by the load so they tend to haul ass every where they go.

15 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:22:04pm

Speaking of Veteran's Day, I wrote a post on my blog called "Coping" when I was a patient at Walter Reed. The post was later picked up and published in the book "The Sandbox" by Gary Trudeau. Here's a small tidbit.

Now I’m struggling with the mentality that I’m just a one-armed, four-fingered gimp. I have sharp memories of the accident that haunt me every day; the sudden explosion, the taste of blood in my mouth, realizing the bottom half of my arm was missing with nothing left but a couple of fingers and part of my hand hanging off by some skin and tendons, and then realizing how much pain I was in. All I could do was hold the end of my blown-off right arm with my shrapnel-filled left hand and wait for the medic to arrive and put a tourniquet on. The most terrifying part of the memories is constantly remembering my gunner screaming and then looking down and realizing my arm was nothing more than some ragged meat and two bones sticking out.

Here is the whole thing.

16 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:23pm

re: #2 Fenway_Nation

Pardon me lizards, is this the 11:08 thread to nowhere in particular?

Why you axing me? Do I look like a frikkin' travel agent?

17 Rancher  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:23:42pm

The woods would be very silent if you were deaf.

Dick Van Dyke

18 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:24:31pm

re: #10 Outrider

Down here we have to "worry" about the cockaded woodpecker. Entire areas of the training areas are closed off because of these damn birds. The environmentalists say it is because they only nest in older growth and all the older growth around here is all on the Army base. I had a cockaded woodpecker living in the tree over my house down here and it nested and bred quite well thank you.

I know! We had those feckin white banded trees all over Ft Benning that we couldn't go near because of the "Red Headed Cock Sucking Woodpecker" (as my Drill Sergeants so affectionately called them).

19 tobor  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:25:10pm

I owe my life and my family's existence to the US armed forces. Long ago, far away from here in a long forgotten town, a group of American men put their lives on the line to save my grandfather and grandmother.

Saying thank you seems not enough.

Let our saved lives be their gift, let our voices sing there praises for eternity.

20 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:26:00pm

re: #14 Outrider

Are them "stick trucks" as dangerous there as they are here? They get paid by the load so they tend to haul ass every where they go.

WA State law requires by the hour, a series of nasty wreaks with dump trucks paid by the load change it years ago. Loggers tend to be a bit cash strapped so the maintenance on the rigs can be a little shaky. Also for some reason a lot of outfits hire drivers with problem records.

21 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:26:06pm

Egyptian Lawmaker: Sexually Assault Female Jews Out Of Israel

"its a new form of resistance!"

22 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:26:10pm

re: #10 Outrider

re: #18 logboy


Same with Ft. Stewart. Can't bee too threatened of a species if they're found in a pretty wide swath of the state of Georgia.

23 Adina in Judea  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:26:31pm

re: #15 logboy

Thanks so much for your service, logboy!

24 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:27:34pm

re: #18 logboy

I know! We had those feckin white banded trees all over Ft Benning that we couldn't go near because of the "Red Headed Cock Sucking Woodpecker" (as my Drill Sergeants so affectionately called them).

same same. Fort Stewart here. And the whole thing is a farce.

I'm thinking all those environmental activists in college in the 60/70s are now on the government payroll at every military post. They create more havoc with field training than any amount of weather or budget cuts.

25 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:28:33pm

Overnight Open Thread! SANCTUARY!

26 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:29:25pm

re: #20 JCM

WA State law requires by the hour, a series of nasty wreaks with dump trucks paid by the load change it years ago. Loggers tend to be a bit cash strapped so the maintenance on the rigs can be a little shaky. Also for some reason a lot of outfits hire drivers with problem records.

We have Georgia/Pacific paper just down the road, so we get lots of the stick trucks. Gets real exciting when the load wasn't secured properly and the logs slide out on the Interstate. lol

27 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:30:10pm

I think I shall never see
A billboard lovely as a tree
Perhaps, unless the billboards fall
I shall never see a tree at all.

-Ogden Nash

28 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:30:29pm

re: #22 Fenway_Nation

re: #18 logboy


Same with Ft. Stewart. Can't bee too threatened of a species if they're found in a pretty wide swath of the state of Georgia.

Its just another ploy by the dems to screw the Military. If it were up to them we'd be fighting with rocks and sling shots. I've talked quite a bit to guys in the Army through the Clinton years. They didn't even have money for blanks, so on every training mission they were running around the woods yelling "bang! bang! bang!" They saw live ammo once a year to qualify, that was it.

29 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:30:36pm

re: #22 Fenway_Nation

re: #18 logboy


Same with Ft. Stewart. Can't bee too threatened of a species if they're found in a pretty wide swath of the state of Georgia.

just more environmentalists creating an issue out of a non issue. And getting paid for it.

30 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:31:02pm

re: #1 logboy

What if we cut down all the trees?

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

They took all the trees
Put em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see em
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Hey farmer farmer
Put away that d.d.t. now
Give me spots on my apples
But leave me the birds and the bees
Please!
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Late last night
I heard the screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

31 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:31:30pm

re: #26 Outrider

We have Georgia/Pacific paper just down the road, so we get lots of the stick trucks. Gets real exciting when the load wasn't secured properly and the logs slide out on the Interstate. lol

Weyerhaeuser is big here, they do a real good job with there rigs, very professional. It's the little guys to watch our for.

32 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:31:56pm

re: #26 Outrider

We have Georgia/Pacific paper just down the road, so we get lots of the stick trucks. Gets real exciting when the load wasn't secured properly and the logs slide out on the Interstate. lol

I hate it when people drop logs on the interstate. Don't care much for them that drop trees, either.

33 Adina in Judea  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:32:01pm

re: #21 WrathofG-d

Egyptian Lawmaker: Sexually Assault Female Jews Out Of Israel

"its a new form of resistance!"

It's already happened a number of times in northern Israel.

The "women" are usually around 13 years old and they have been raped.

It seems that the Israeli police are doing more to protect the women in northern Israel now, though, since these incidents seem to have been stopped.

What a bunch of low-life creeps:

"No. Sexual harassment… In my view, the [Israeli women] do not have any right to respond. The resistance fighters would not initiate such a thing, because their moral values are much loftier than that. However, if such a thing did happen to them, the [Israeli women] have no right to make any demands, because this would put us on equal terms – leave the land so we won't rape you. These two things are equal," she said.

Al-Imam added that she did not want "young Arab men to be interrogated," but rather, she wanted "these Zionist girls with Israeli citizenship to be expelled from our Arab countries. This is a form of resistance, and a way of rejecting their presence."

34 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:32:02pm

re: #21 WrathofG-d

Egyptian Lawmaker: Sexually Assault Female Jews Out Of Israel

"its a new form of resistance!"

Didn't we see something like this a year or two back with mobs of Egyptians assaulting females on the street?

35 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:32:13pm

re: #26 Outrider

We have Georgia/Pacific paper just down the road, so we get lots of the stick trucks. Gets real exciting when the load wasn't secured properly and the logs slide out on the Interstate. lol

They're not too bad here in NW WI. We have a huge Louisiana Pacific OSB plant here, and a ton of other paper and sawmills around. The state DOT keeps them on their toes.

36 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:33:01pm

re: #8 logboy

re: #26 Outrider

re: #20 JCM


Anyone here see the History Channel's Ax Men?

37 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:33:11pm

re: #31 JCM

What? You mean the guys on "Ax Men" aren't that competent? Mercy.//

38 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:33:29pm

Morning Adina.

39 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:33:34pm

re: #3 JCM
Rendevous

I have a rendezvous with Death
At some disputed barricade,
I have a rendezvous with Death
At some disputed barricade,
When Spring comes back with rustling shade
And apple-blossoms fill the air--
I have a rendezvous with Death
When Spring brings back blue days and fair.

It may be he shall take my hand
And lead me into his dark land
And close my eyes and quench my breath--
It may be I shall pass him still.
I have a rendezvous with Death
On some scarred slope of battered hill,
When Spring comes round again this year
And the first meadow-flowers appear.

God knows 'twere better to be deep
Pillowed in silk and scented down,
Where love throbs out in blissful sleep,
Pulse nigh to pulse, and breath to breath,
Where hushed awakenings are dear . . .
But I've a rendezvous with Death
At midnight in some flaming town,
When Spring trips north again this year,
And I to my pledged word am true,
I shall not fail that rendezvous.

40 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:33:45pm

re: #34 Outrider

Didn't we see something like this a year or two back with mobs of Egyptians assaulting females on the street?

You're thinking Mardi Gras. Perfectly normal.///

41 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:21pm

re: #36 Fenway_Nation

re: #26 Outrider

re: #20 JCM


Anyone here see the History Channel's Ax Men?


Yup. You know you're talking to a professional log roller here?

42 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:45pm

re: #36 Fenway_Nation

re: #26 Outrider

re: #20 JCM


Anyone here see the History Channel's Ax Men?

Rabbit ear TV....

43 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:47pm

re: #36 Fenway_Nation

re: #26 Outrider

re: #20 JCM


Anyone here see the History Channel's Ax Men?

The them to which should have been Monty Python's "Lumberjack" song.

44 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:49pm

re: #28 logboy

Its just another ploy by the dems to screw the Military. If it were up to them we'd be fighting with rocks and sling shots. I've talked quite a bit to guys in the Army through the Clinton years. They didn't even have money for blanks, so on every training mission they were running around the woods yelling "bang! bang! bang!" They saw live ammo once a year to qualify, that was it.

I retired in Oct 93. So we were still off the previous year budget until I retired. I missed all the crap of the Clinton years. It wasn't as bad as the Carter years though from talking to my neighbors. I still live around Ft Stewart.

45 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:50pm

Evening/morning all. Night shift finally checking in. Saw a sad sight today. At the City Hall ceremonies the veterans marched by as usual. There couldn't have been more than 30 of them from WWII. A far cry from when I first started going to them back in the early 80's.

46 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:34:56pm

re: #41 logboy

Hence the name.

47 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:35:24pm

re: #43 calcajun

The them to which should have been Monty Python's "Lumberjack" song.

PIMF-- The "theme".... a thousand pardons

48 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:35:46pm

re: #44 Outrider


Live Oak? Richmond Hill? Hineysville?

49 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:14pm

re: #37 calcajun

What? You mean the guys on "Ax Men" aren't that competent? Mercy.//

LOL, nope not all. Just some of 'em. The big guys have been in business long enough to figured out the safety / liability thing.

50 I heart the USA  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:26pm

re: #15 logboy

I am at a loss for words other than to offer a wholly inadequate, but with-all-my-heart, 'thank you'.

51 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:36:46pm

re: #39 redc1c4

Had he and I but met
By some old ancient inn,
We should have set us down to wet
Right many a nipperkin!

But ranged as infantry,
And staring face to face,
I shot at him as he at me,
And killed him in his place.

I shot him dead because—
Because he was my foe,
Just so: my foe of course he was;
That's clear enough; although

He thought he'd 'list, perhaps,
Off-hand like—just as I—
Was out of work—had sold his traps—
No other reason why.

Yes; quaint and curious war is!
You shoot a fellow down
You'd treat, if met where any bar is,
Or help to half a crown.

Thomas Hardy

52 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:01pm

re: #32 calcajun

I hate it when people drop logs on the interstate. Don't care much for them that drop trees, either.

If it wasn't for Georgia-Pacific and Weyerhouser there would be precious few trees around here. We would see the entire Coastal Georgia as solid strip malls, industry, and tract housing. Those companies own miles and miles; planting fast growing pines that are harvested rotationally every five years.

53 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:09pm

re: #33 Adina in Judea

This is just another situation where individuals are lucky that Wrath is not P.M. of Israel.

Raping, or otherwise sexually assaulting Jewish girls does not go over well with me.

I'd probably impose stricter sentences (ie: banishment, or worse) then I would for Terrorism.

54 TheMatrix31  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:16pm

Setting up a new computer to be the way I want it is quite the arduous task.

55 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:29pm

re: #34 Outrider

Yes. During some holiday if I recall correctly.

56 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:37:42pm

"Due to logging regulations, we are no longer able to supply you with trees for toilet paper. We suggest you start wiping your ass with a spotted owl."

57 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:01pm

re: #25 Intrepid

Overnight Open Thread! SANCTUARY!

At least it will be now. ;)

58 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:20pm

re: #35 logboy

They're not too bad here in NW WI. We have a huge Louisiana Pacific OSB plant here, and a ton of other paper and sawmills around. The state DOT keeps them on their toes.

The DOT white enforcement cars do a fair job. But we have a lot of little road that bypass the major routes they can and do take.

59 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:22pm

re: #15 logboy

Thank you and God Bless you.

60 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:38:43pm

re: #28 logboy

Its just another ploy by the dems to screw the Military. If it were up to them we'd be fighting with rocks and sling shots. I've talked quite a bit to guys in the Army through the Clinton years. They didn't even have money for blanks, so on every training mission they were running around the woods yelling "bang! bang! bang!" They saw live ammo once a year to qualify, that was it.

We had the same problems up here during the Liberal years of Trudeau and his ilk. We subsituted "Bang, bang" with " Budget Cut, Budget Cut".

/never seemed to go over that well with the Orficers for some reason.

61 JCM  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:39:04pm

G'night all, tis late the house work is done, and morning comes early.

To all the vets.

Thank you.

62 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:40:02pm

re: #48 Fenway_Nation

Live Oak? Richmond Hill? Hineysville?

Richmond Hill. Couldn't pay me enough to live in Hinesville. lol

63 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:40:34pm

One of my favorite songs that we play at all the lumberjack competitions:

The Frozen Logger

64 Stonemason  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:41:23pm

re: #15 logboy

Words can't...

Yes they can:

Thank you.

65 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:41:40pm
66 Adina in Judea  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:41:51pm

To all vets - thank you from me, too!

67 JeremiahRight  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:41:59pm

re: #15 logboy

Wow. I cannot put into words the feeling other than
Thank You
from me and my family
I had no idea

68 Stonemason  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:42:02pm

re: #56 logboy

Now that's funny!

69 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:42:15pm
70 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:42:39pm

Frozen Logger Lyrics

As I sat down one evening within a small cafe,
A forty year old waitress to me these words did say:

"I see that you are a logger, and not just a common bum,
'Cause nobody but a logger stirs his coffee with is thumb.

My lover was a logger, there's none like him today;
If you'd pour whiskey on it he could eat a bale of hay

He never shaved his whiskers from off of his horny hide;
He'd just drive them in with a hammer and bite them off inside.

My lover came to see me upon one freezing day;
He held me in his fond embrace which broke three vertebrae.

He kissed me when we parted, so hard that he broke my jaw;
I could not speak to tell him he'd forgot his mackinaw.
I saw my lover leaving, sauntering through the snow,
Going gaily homeward at forty-eight below.

The weather it tried to freeze him, it tried its level best;
At a hundred degrees below zero, he buttoned up his vest.

It froze clean through to China, it froze to the stars above;
At a thousand degrees below zero, it froze my logger love.

They tried in vain to thaw him, and would you believe me, sir
They made him into axeblades, to chop the Douglas fir.

And so I lost my lover, and to this cafe I come,
And here I wait till someone stirs his coffee with his thumb."

71 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:43:01pm

re: #60 BlueCanuck

We had the same problems up here during the Liberal years of Trudeau and his ilk. We subsituted "Bang, bang" with " Budget Cut, Budget Cut".

/never seemed to go over that well with the Orficers for some reason.

I'll bet in private they agreed and were laughing their asses off at the antics. ;-)> I know as a 1SG, I would chew someones butt, and later me and the other 1SGs or the Cdr would swap stories about things like it. lol

72 calcajun  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:43:24pm

re: #52 Outrider

If it wasn't for Georgia-Pacific and Weyerhouser there would be precious few trees around here. We would see the entire Coastal Georgia as solid strip malls, industry, and tract housing. Those companies own miles and miles; planting fast growing pines that are harvested rotationally every five years.

Sorry. I meant it to be a funny. Forgot the sarc tag.

I have no beef with anyone in the forestry industries. I know about re-plants and harvesting. Drive through Mississippi and Louisiana and you see the swaths of pine stands waiting to be be harvested--they're industries which provide thousands of jobs and put food on the table for many more. No offense meant.

73 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:43:45pm

Are they even doing much logging in WI? I thought paper valley was facing rough times.

74 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:44:01pm

re: #28 logboy

re: #60 BlueCanuck

We (an infantry company) went to the range to qualify with the SAW's one afternoon. The finance company that came in behind us were using M60s, which many of the NCOs were quite nostalgic for.

Couldn't believe that the accountants were better armed than the infanrty.

/Still- the NCO's wanted to make sure we didn't return any live ammo. There's something cathartic about firing off a 250+ round belt...even if we had to wait awhile for the barrel to cool

75 I heart the USA  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:44:18pm

re: #69 WrathofG-d

Lohan: First "colored(?)" president?

whadshesay?

At least she didn't ask a guy in a wheelchair to stand up and take a bow...
:-D

76 Adina in Judea  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:44:26pm

Weet dreams!

77 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:45:16pm

re: #63 logboy

One of my favorite songs that we play at all the lumberjack competitions:

The Frozen Logger

Here's a Canadian song that is an oldy and goldy. The Log Drivers Waltz.

78 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:45:44pm

Another favorite:

Johnny Cash, Lumberjack

79 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:46:00pm

re: #72 calcajun

Sorry. I meant it to be a funny. Forgot the sarc tag.

I have no beef with anyone in the forestry industries. I know about re-plants and harvesting. Drive through Mississippi and Louisiana and you see the swaths of pine stands waiting to be be harvested--they're industries which provide thousands of jobs and put food on the table for many more. No offense meant.

Oh, none taken! Sometimes some people just don't realize how the paper industry works. I've got into the habit of explaining it to the tourists. Sorry about that ;-)>

80 nightwatch  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:46:52pm

Should I be good now?

81 shiplord kirel  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:47:02pm

re: #69 WrathofG-d

Lohan: First "colored(?)" president?

whadshesay?

Isn't she one of those Hollywood strumpets who stopped wearing panties when they heard that California law requires public utilities to be open for inspection at all times?

82 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:47:39pm

re: #81 shiplord kirel

Yea, maybe she is just bitter that Prop 8 passed.

83 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:48:17pm

Oh for gawds sake, who cares what Lindsay Lohan said.
O-_________ dissed her way back before the election.
Get he some rehab, stat!

84 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:48:21pm

re: #82 WrathofG-d


What is there for her to cling to besides her skankiness?

85 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:48:26pm

re: #28 logboy

Its just another ploy by the dems to screw the Military. If it were up to them we'd be fighting with rocks and sling shots. I've talked quite a bit to guys in the Army through the Clinton years. They didn't even have money for blanks, so on every training mission they were running around the woods yelling "bang! bang! bang!" They saw live ammo once a year to qualify, that was it.

in the Guard it got stupider than that. you'd drive up one month cause you had the fuel. but no ammo, and the next month, you'd stay home with ammo but no fuel, and all because no one wanted to report that they couldn't do what they were told, so they lied on the reports to higher.

86 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:41pm

Anthem for the Obama administration after the first year....

Sing it, Patsy!

87 Outrider  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:43pm
88 nightwatch  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:49pm

re: #65 Intrepid


Blink.......Blink

89 WrathofG-d  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:50:56pm

She used to be pretty nice looking, too bad not so much anymore.

90 logboy  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:51:51pm

re: #73 Sharmuta

Are they even doing much logging in WI? I thought paper valley was facing rough times.

No way... the towns up here were created by logging, every one of them. The lumber cut here from the giant White Pine built the large cities of Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 1800s. Logging is still very much alive in these parts, and is one of the few industries supplying jobs. Farms went by the wayside long ago. There are still paper mills around Duluth, Superior and spread around northern WI.

91 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:52:10pm

re: #89 WrathofG-d

She used to be pretty nice looking, too bad not so much anymore.

I guess all that clean living didn't agree with her, eh?

////

92 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:52:18pm

re: #88 nightwatch

Blink.......Blink

What? (said what a long "aaahhh")

93 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:52:58pm

re: #74 Fenway_Nation

re: #60 BlueCanuck

We (an infantry company) went to the range to qualify with the SAW's one afternoon. The finance company that came in behind us were using M60s, which many of the NCOs were quite nostalgic for.

Couldn't believe that the accountants were better armed than the infanrty.

/Still- the NCO's wanted to make sure we didn't return any live ammo. There's something cathartic about firing off a 250+ round belt...even if we had to wait awhile for the barrel to cool

that's what 30 weight is for.... since they don't make LSA anymore....

GUNS UP!

94 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:54:57pm

re: #88 nightwatch

Blink.......Blink

POKE! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!

95 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 11, 2008 11:58:49pm

the best thing about firing a 50 cal at night is that if the barrel gets hot enough, you can see the projo going down range......

well, that and the damage it does to a target..... %-)

96 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:00:02am

re: #10 Outrider

The spotted owl only nests in old growth forests. And Wallmart signs.

97 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:00:50am

Can you hot swap barrels on the M60? You can on the 240B, its replacement.

98 flutesnoot  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:00:53am

Charles, could one get around the "first" rule by asking for the last name of the actor who played Kent "Flounder" Dorfman in Animal House? Has this been tried?

99 WrathofG-d  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:01:38am

re: #91 FurryOldGuyJeans

yea not so much.

100 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:01:58am

re: #98 flutesnoot

Now you let the cat out of the bag, and since you have we won't be able to get away with it.

*whack*

101 WrathofG-d  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:02:10am

re: #98 flutesnoot

C"I"J doesn't stay up this late me no thinks

102 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:02:27am

Hi, {Blue}

103 Outrider  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:02:50am

re: #96 Rancher

The spotted owl only nests in old growth forests. And Wallmart signs.

I don't pretend to know a lot about these birds, but from my observations, these birds seem to nest nigh on any where they want no matter what we humans do.

104 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:03:37am

I'm a LumberJack...

You knew it was coming..

105 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:03:46am
106 miguelj  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:03:51am

In Africa news: the govt of Rwanda has issued arrest warrants for the entire former leadership of France on charges of complicity in genocide. Balladur, Juppe, deVillepin, the whole rotten crew. Well done, Rwanda! Of course they won't be extradited (darn!) but at least it will embarrass those salauds.

107 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:05:41am

Morning {Sharm}, how you doing today?

108 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:06:17am

re: #104 Mel Lono

I'm a LumberJack...

You knew it was coming..


Bastards! I was doing a lumberjack show in Georgia a few years ago. We ended up singing that at 6am for "Good Morning Atlanta". I refused to sing it ever again.

109 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:07:03am

re: #106 miguelj

Salauds, French for what?

110 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:07:09am

Sharmuta - you still here?

111 shiplord kirel  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:07:23am

ISPs you do NOT want: Xanadoo Wireless Hi-Speed Internet: Wireless it is, high speed it isn't, and it isn't any speed during the 6-8 hours per day that it isn't working. 16 hour a day service rather than 24, no tech support (two chicks in India can't keep up with 100,000 irate customers), dishonest billing practices, so many other problems it would take a week to list them.

NTS-Communications: Tech support droids have master's degrees in excuse making but no computer knowledge at all. E-mail servers down for five days and counting.

112 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:07:54am

re: #110 Intrepid

Sharmuta - you still here?

Nah, she's there (points)

113 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:08:30am

re: #106 miguelj

In Africa news: the govt of Rwanda has issued arrest warrants for the entire former leadership of France on charges of complicity in genocide. Balladur, Juppe, deVillepin, the whole rotten crew. Well done, Rwanda! Of course they won't be extradited (darn!) but at least it will embarrass those salauds.


Why not implicate Clinton too? That #$%&*^% did nothing while thousands died. Remember what he said? "We are closely monitoring the situation."

114 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:09:01am

re: #112 FurryOldGuyJeans

Nah, she's there (points)

Heh heh heh.....I need a drink.

115 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:09:05am

re: #94 FurryOldGuyJeans

POKE! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!

I tried to think, and nothing happened

Curly Howard

116 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:09:33am

re: #108 logboy

Bastards! I was doing a lumberjack show in Georgia a few years ago. We ended up singing that at 6am for "Good Morning Atlanta". I refused to sing it ever again.

You have my respect and thanks you rotten SOB!/

117 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:09:59am

re: #115 Dustyvet

I tried to think, and nothing happened

Curly Howard

Hey Moe!

118 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:11:08am

re: #115 Dustyvet

I tried to think, and nothing happened

Curly Howard

Oooh, a Wise Guy!

119 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:12:55am

re: #97 logboy

Can you hot swap barrels on the M60? You can on the 240B, its replacement.

yup.... it just takes one of those bakers gloves, and a bit of practice

120 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:12:55am

re: #117 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hey Moe!

Ollie: Didn't I just tell you I was going to be married?
Stan: Who to?
Ollie: Why, a woman, of course. Did you ever hear of anyone marrying a man?
Stan: Sure.
Ollie: Who?
Stan: My sister.
Ollie: This is no time for levity

121 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:14:23am
122 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:15:33am

re: #113 logboy

Why not implicate Clinton too? That #$%&*^% did nothing while thousands died. Remember what he said? "We are closely monitoring the situation."

Then there's General Dallaire, who was pretty shaken and almost broken by what he couldn't do.

123 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:15:42am

re: #118 Intrepid

Oooh, a Wise Guy!


Oliver: Where is she?
Stan: Maybe she went to the mountains.
Oliver: I'll bet she did. You know she makes me sick.
Stan: Well if she didn't go to the mountains, then Mohammad would have to come here.

124 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:16:05am

Hey Intrepid, what did you mean by this?

You're nuts. Seriously.
That sounds pretty much like "Fool"

It's knowitall christians like you that really crack me up.
You just have to be right.

125 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:17:07am

re: #123 Dustyvet

*WHACK*

Mandy has give us women the power!

126 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:17:38am

re: #110 Intrepid

Yes

127 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:19:36am

re: #124 IslandLibertarian

The Monk Slappy Fight is in the previous thread, not here.

128 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:20:43am

Hey- fighting overnight was last night.

129 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:21:41am

I was overseeing my herd out on the llano when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards me. The driver, a young man dressed to the nines, leans out the window and asks me, “If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?” I figured this would be interesting so I said, “Sure, Why not?” The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3 cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The guy then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg , Germany. Within mere seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data is stored. He then accesses a MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer and finally turns to me and says, “You have exactly 869 cows and calves.”

“That’s right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves,” I said.

I watched this clown select one of my animals and looked on amused as
he stuffed it into the trunk of his car.

Then I asked him, “Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?”

He thought about it for a second and then said, “Okay, why not?”

“You’re a Congressman for the U.S. Government”, I told him.

"Wow! That’s correct,” he exclaimed, “but how did you guess that?”

“No guessing required,” I answered. “You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You tried to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don’t know a thing about cows...this is a herd of sheep."

"Now give me back my dog."

130 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:21:46am

re: #128 Sharmuta

Hey- fighting overnight was last night.

Party pooper! ;)

131 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:21:54am

It's always about remembering and being thankful.

132 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:23:46am

re: #128 Sharmuta

Does that troll-op still have an account?

133 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:23:54am

re: #124 IslandLibertarian

Hey Intrepid, what did you mean by this?

You're nuts. Seriously.
That sounds pretty much like "Fool"

It's knowitall christians like you that really crack me up.
You just have to be right.

Heh - you're bringing this over here? Dude! You are nuts for keeping this issue going. You quoted scripture dedicated to all the "WWJD types", but neglected to quote the scripture in context. I added the context and refuted your argument. Including personal anecdotal info.

And yes, if I am right, I'd like to be noticed as being right. But unlike you, I don't have to be.

Dude. Give it up.

134 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:24:17am

re: #130 FurryOldGuyJeans

Were it not for the stick I'd say next month you'd be accused of soiling.

135 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:24:24am

re: #132 BlueCanuck

NO

136 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:24:48am

re: #127 FurryOldGuyJeans

The Monk Slappy Fight is in the previous thread, not here.

You ever seen one of those westerns where the brawl just keeps crashing through walls?
Sorry 'bout that pardner.

137 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:24:51am

re: #69 WrathofG-d

Lohan: First "colored(?)" president?

whadshesay?

Meet the Obama voter.

138 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:25:31am
139 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:26:05am

re: #134 Sharmuta

Were it not for the stick I'd say next month you'd be accused of soiling.

That's never stopped me before. ;)

140 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:26:14am

re: #126 Sharmuta

Yes

Can you go back and check me from the last thread, starting at post #213?

Just want to know if I'm being too sensitive.

141 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:28:01am

re: #132 BlueCanuck

Does that troll-op still have an account?

Nah - Edgar and his buddy JohnDakota got the boot yesterday morning. Check out the last bit of yesterday's overnight thread.

142 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:28:12am

re: #131 BlueCanuck

It's always about remembering and being thankful.

and for all those that just don't have time.....

143 ryannon  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:29:10am

With a hat-tip to Ojoe, here's a view of Pasadena and the Los Angeles Basin from the Towercam at the Mt. Wilson Observatory. Last one out, please turn off the lights:

[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]

144 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:30:15am

re: #142 redc1c4

Well, I went to the ceremony for the moment of silence the parading of colours, and the martch of the veterans. After our mayor made his speech I went home. Even had a fly past too. Brought tears to my eyes they did.

145 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:30:24am

re: #113 logboy

Why not implicate Clinton too? That #$%&*^% did nothing while thousands died. Remember what he said? "We are closely monitoring the situation."

The French were there; we were not. The French knew the internal dynamics; we did not. By the time we got people there, it was all over....military logistics is a real bitch, unfortunately.

Bush 41 cut the military, and Clinton slashed it. Because of that we really couldn't do much about Rwanda.

146 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:33:11am

re: #140 Intrepid

I just took a look. I guess I'd say that if you think you might be being to sensitive, perhaps you are. Today I responded to an email and I guess I was being too sensitive. It happens.

But then, when it comes to my faith, I let a lot roll off my back where other people don't, so I might not be the best judge.

147 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:34:33am

re: #133 Intrepid

Can you go back and check me from the last thread, starting at post #213?
Just want to know if I'm being too sensitive

Oh brother.
You are a piece of work.
I forgive you misunderstanding my attempt to make a WWJD joke.

148 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:37:19am

So- is there early laced fruitcup around here?

149 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:37:38am

re: #146 Sharmuta

I just took a look. I guess I'd say that if you think you might be being to sensitive, perhaps you are. Today I responded to an email and I guess I was being too sensitive. It happens.

But then, when it comes to my faith, I let a lot roll off my back where other people don't, so I might not be the best judge.

Thanks, Shar.

150 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:38:46am

re: #113 logboy

Why not implicate Clinton too? That #$%&*^% did nothing while thousands died. Remember what he said? "We are closely monitoring the situation."

You talked about not having live ammo for training. My husband's a pilot, flies heavies. Around Rwanda time, the percentage of transports that could have made it all the way to Rwanda? um, let's just say that you might have gotten to spend a nice week in the Azores waiting for a new engine or something en route.

151 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:39:49am

re: #149 Intrepid

I know Killgore's offended a lot of people at times. I've never been offended by his comments though. I have faith in God and no one can shake that. If their views are different, then that's what it is, but I know in my heart and soul what I know and no one will change that with words on a blog.

152 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:39:53am

re: #147 IslandLibertarian

Can you go back and check me from the last thread, starting at post #213?
Just want to know if I'm being too sensitive

Oh brother.
You are a piece of work.
I forgive you misunderstanding my attempt to make a WWJD joke.

Good gracious! Do you not understand having another person's perspective? It's called maturity.

Yeesh.

153 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:40:00am
154 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:40:06am

And on that depressing note, I'm off to bed. good night eveyone.

155 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:40:41am

re: #147 IslandLibertarian

Can you go back and check me from the last thread, starting at post #213?
Just want to know if I'm being too sensitive

Oh brother.
You are a piece of work.
I forgive you misunderstanding my attempt to make a WWJD joke.

If it was a JOKE you should have said so!

156 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:43:08am

re: #145 funky chicken

The French were there; we were not. The French knew the internal dynamics; we did not. By the time we got people there, it was all over....military logistics is a real bitch, unfortunately.

Bush 41 cut the military, and Clinton slashed it. Because of that we really couldn't do much about Rwanda.

that sure sounds convincing.....

i just didn't know we didn't have the 82nd during those years..... musta missed the draw down notice.

want =! can

157 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:43:25am

re: #155 Intrepid

If it was a JOKE you should have said so!

Other people did try to tell you it was joking and got slapped for their efforts.

158 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:43:27am

re: #152 Intrepid

Good gracious! Do you not understand having another person's perspective? It's called maturity.

Yeesh.

Maturity is being able to stand up for yourself. Not look for others to back you up.

159 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:43:42am

re: #153 littleoldlady

Good morning littleoldlady. How are you doing today?

/little early aren't you?

160 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:44:22am

re: #145 funky chicken

The French were there; we were not. The French knew the internal dynamics; we did not. By the time we got people there, it was all over....military logistics is a real bitch, unfortunately.

Bush 41 cut the military, and Clinton slashed it. Because of that we really couldn't do much about Rwanda.

Wrong. We could have done something, but we did nothing. I don't buy the "we had an ineffective military" argument. We both know thats not true. When it came to human rights and doing the right thing Clinton is just a douche bag. Remember the Khobar Towers bombing where 19 Americans died? Clinton went to the Saudis to ask for money for his library but didn't even ASK about the people they had locked up for the crime. Talk about doing the dead Airmen justice.

161 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:44:50am

re: #153 littleoldlady

Laced?

Thanks, Lady!

162 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:45:06am

re: #159 BlueCanuck

BlueCanuck! :-)

Nightmare. They came to get my kid for re-education camp. :-(

Was almost back asleep when the dog and cat decided it was play-time...in the bed.

163 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:45:48am

re: #157 FurryOldGuyJeans

Other people did try to tell you it was joking and got slapped for their efforts.

I didn't see it as a joke, though! No sarc tags, no "hee" type statements.

I missed it.

164 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:46:01am

re: #148 Sharmuta

So- is there early laced fruitcup around here?

if not, the leftovers have been bubbling along since last night....

and you can always ask the cook for a taste.

/white smoke

165 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:46:07am

re: #162 littleoldlady

Sorry about the nightmare. :(

Cat's and dogs living together? Now that's just weird. ;)

166 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:46:50am

re: #25 Intrepid

SANCTUARY!

"Fish, and plankton. And sea greens, and protein from the sea. It's all here, ready. Fresh as harvest day. Fish and sea greens, plankton and protein from the sea. And then it stopped coming. And they came instead. So I store them here. I'm ready. And you're ready. It's my job. To freeze you."

167 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:47:02am

re: #158 IslandLibertarian

Maturity is being able to stand up for yourself. Not look for others to back you up.

It is also asking trusted others to look over what you've said and tell you to the truth.

Which is what Sharmuta has done.

168 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:47:23am

And why was our military so cash strapped? Because HE cut the budget. Are you telling me he couldn't have appropriated funds? Come on...

169 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:48:24am

re: #165 BlueCanuck

Sorry about the nightmare. :(

Cat's and dogs living together? Now that's just weird. ;)

No, I believe that would be mass hysteria.

170 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:48:37am

re: #165 BlueCanuck

Cat's and dogs living together? Now that's just weird. ;)

Weird is par for the course around here. ;-)

171 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:48:55am

Alright, I've said my two cents for the night, I'm off to bed. Happy Vets Day for all who missed it.

172 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:50:19am

To IslandLibertarian I offer my humblest of apologies for misunderstanding what he/she wrote in his/her posts.

Please, I ask forgiveness.

173 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:51:29am

re: #166 gmsc

Logans Run?

174 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:51:54am

Night logboy. Rest well.

175 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:52:05am

re: #171 logboy

Alright, I've said my two cents for the night, I'm off to bed. Happy Vets Day for all who missed it.

You ain't getting away that cheap...you have to pitch in at least 2 bits. ;)

176 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:53:56am

re: #173 BlueCanuck

Logans Run?

Yep! That's Roscoe Lee Browne as "Box", the robot who stored protein, including humans.

177 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:54:33am
178 LeePro  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:55:23am

re: #131 BlueCanuck

re: #142 redc1c4

To both of you... you made me cry... again.

And now... here's my contribution in observance of Veterans' Day and Remembrance Day.

179 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:55:36am

re: #175 FurryOldGuyJeans

You ain't getting away that cheap...you have to pitch in at least 2 bits. ;)

i'd say he's already paid his pittance in full....

if not, i'll cover it. his money's no good here.

/Scouts Out

180 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:55:40am

re: #177 Sharmuta

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!

Hey Ren! Where's the litter box?

181 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:56:14am

re: #173 BlueCanuck

Yup!

182 logboy  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:56:18am

re: #175 FurryOldGuyJeans

You ain't getting away that cheap...you have to pitch in at least 2 bits. ;)


I've already paid the cost. Night.

183 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:57:22am

re: #172 Intrepid

To IslandLibertarian I offer my humblest of apologies for misunderstanding what he/she wrote in his/her posts.
Please, I ask forgiveness.

Pilgrim, I already forgave you up thread, but I threw in a zinger with it so I guess it don't count.
So I accept your apology and ask that if I have offended you in any way, I am sorry.

And for the record, I'm not a he/she. I look horrible in heels.

/can't we all just get along?

184 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:57:28am

re: #177 Sharmuta

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!

"I'll teach your Grandmother to suck eggs"!

Hee......hee hee....

185 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:58:13am

re: #178 LeePro

Morning {LeePro}. And thank you for that picture.

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:58:23am

re: #184 Intrepid

"I'll teach your Grandmother to suck eggs"!

Hee......hee hee....

Why won't they leave me....ALONE!?!?

187 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 12:58:59am

re: #177 Sharmuta

Hey Sharm, you still love me?

188 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:01:00am

Where I am, it's already November 12th. Among the great things that happened in history on November 12th:

1918 - Austria becomes a republic.
1936 - In California, the San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge opens to traffic.
1946 - A branch of the Exchange National Bank in Chicago, Illinois opens the first ten drive-up teller windows.
1980 - The NASA space probe Voyager I makes its closest approach to Saturn and takes first images of its rings.
1981 - The Space Shuttle Columbia becomes the first spacecraft to be launched twice.
1982 - Lech Wałęsa, a Solidarity leader, is released from a Polish prison after eleven months.

189 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:01:03am

Yes, IL- I love you still.

190 LeePro  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:01:06am

re: #185 BlueCanuck

Morning {LeePro}. And thank you for that picture.

{Blue}, "that picture" is one of my father's award-winning editorial cartoons during the Korean War.

:)

191 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:02:09am

re: #183 IslandLibertarian

Pilgrim, I already forgave you up thread, but I threw in a zinger with it so I guess it don't count.
So I accept your apology and ask that if I have offended you in any way, I am sorry.

And for the record, I'm not a he/she. I look horrible in heels.

/can't we all just get along?

Heh - as long as you don't keep calling me "pilgrim". I keep thinking of John Wayne when I see that. Although, I am still a pilgrim. Aren't we all?

No, it was my bad. Scripture is too precious to be used as a stick. And I tried to whack you with it.

Heh - no heels from now on. Me too. I hate them, though I am expected to wear them occasionally.

/stupid girl rules.....

192 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:02:53am

re: #189 Sharmuta

Yes, IL- I love you still.

Will you still love me tomorrow?

193 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:03:25am

It's LOG!

194 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:03:51am

re: #193 Sharmuta

It's LOG!

Better than Powered Toastman

195 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:05:44am

re: #189 Sharmuta

awwwwwwww gosh-o-golly........that makes up for all the drivel I've given and taken.
And now to sleep.
G'nite 'tiles.

196 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:06:50am

re: #191 Intrepid

There are girl rules?! Why was I not informed of this?

197 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:07:26am

re: #187 IslandLibertarian

Hey Sharm, you still love me?

"still"?

198 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:07:28am

re: #194 FurryOldGuyJeans

Better than Powered Toastman

I'm firmly convinced that, when future archaeologists examine the early days of the internet, they will believe that the question of whether the hero's name was "Powered Toast Man" or "Powdered Toast Man" was a matter of great importance, due to the number of forum threads dedicated to the issue.

199 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:07:43am

re: #193 Sharmuta

It's LOG!

Check out the Obama ears on that LOG kid!

Heh.

200 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:08:43am

re: #198 gmsc

I'm firmly convinced that, when future archaeologists examine the early days of the internet, they will believe that the question of whether the hero's name was "Powered Toast Man" or "Powdered Toast Man" was a matter of great importance, due to the number of forum threads dedicated to the issue.

Hey, you stole my "D"! ;)

201 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:09:26am

It's better than bad, it GOOD!

202 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:10:05am

Log! is right up there with Happy Fun Ball™

203 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:10:25am

re: #196 Sharmuta

There are girl rules?! Why was I not informed of this?

Ssshhhh - honey, you're a yankee, and us Southern gals have different rules than ya'll do.

We gotta wear heels and skirts every once in a while. It's the nature of the game here.

204 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:10:32am

re: #199 Intrepid

Check out the Obama ears on that LOG kid!

Heh.

There's only one way to make 0bama's ears smaller - Nan0bama!

205 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:11:04am

Log can't beat the fun one can have with a Pet Rock.

206 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:12:47am

re: #202 Sharmuta

Log! is right up there with Happy Fun Ball™

Or Big Red™ (the toy, not the gum)

207 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:12:53am

re: #205 Rancher

Log can't beat the fun one can have with a Pet Rock.

Does a pet rock roll over your neighbour's dog?

208 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:12:54am

Oh yeah- I'm bookmarking this for future use.

209 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:14:33am

FOOD FIGHT!


210 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:15:56am

re: #207 FurryOldGuyJeans

Does a pet rock roll over your neighbour's dog?

Depends how big the rock is or how small the dog is.

/and mathematics. ;)

211 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:17:06am

re: #208 Sharmuta

Oh yeah- I'm bookmarking this for future use.

You seem to have turned into a John K fan all of the sudden!

212 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:17:08am

re: #210 BlueCanuck

Depends how big the rock is or how small the dog is.

/and mathematics. ;)

Oh yeah, muddy things up with facts, why don't ya!

213 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:17:53am

re: #212 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh yeah, muddy things up with facts, why don't ya!

Who knew that 0bama logged on LGF with the name FurryOldGuyJeans?

214 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:17:58am

re: #211 gmsc

You seem to have turned into a John K fan all of the sudden!

Ren and Stimpy is more addicting that crack.

215 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:18:38am

We had to bail out the banks because they were the engine that effects all sectors of the economy. We do not have to bail out ever other industry, state, or city that is experiencing tough times. I just saw that Philadelphia will ask Obama for a bailout. Look for a deep depresion if we borrow, print money or soak the "rich" so we can throw money everywhere. Can't folks see this makes no sense?

216 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:18:42am

re: #208 Sharmuta

Oh yeah- I'm bookmarking this for future use.

Oh honey, have some Nora to help you out.

217 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:18:47am

re: #208 Sharmuta

Oh yeah- I'm bookmarking this for future use.

For reference, this is what Stimpy's singing.

218 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:19:28am

re: #213 gmsc

Who knew that 0bama logged on LGF with the name FurryOldGuyJeans?

When Obama turns out to be an old hairy white dude who is also a disabled vet do let me know.

219 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:21:35am

re: #217 Sharmuta

For reference, this is what Stimpy's singing.

I prefer to not know what she is singing, thank you very much ;)

220 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:21:43am

re: #218 FurryOldGuyJeans

When Obama turns out to be an old hairy white dude who is also a disabled vet do let me know.

He's saving that surprise for the last day of his presidency.
;)

221 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:22:02am

re: #217 Sharmuta

heh, I knew that. Don't even have to click the link for the "Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen."

/oohrah

222 gmsc  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:23:00am

Since it seems to be cartoon music night, how about a little The Cat Came Back?

223 LeePro  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:24:05am

One more time, with fervor [I seem to be invisible to all except Blue].

re: myself
...here's my contribution in observance of Veterans' Day and Remembrance Day.

Good night, good souls. I'm going to go upstairs and feel sorry for myself.

:-[

224 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:25:27am

re: #223 LeePro

One more time, with fervor [I seem to be invisible to all except Blue].


Good night, good souls. I'm going to go upstairs and feel sorry for myself.

:-[

Lee! Don't leave us! And don't feel sorry for yourself!

Here, have some Nora!

225 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:26:10am

Night {Lee}, have yourself a good sleep.

226 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:31:03am

re: #223 LeePro

One more time, with fervor [I seem to be invisible to all except Blue].


Good night, good souls. I'm going to go upstairs and feel sorry for myself.

:-[

tag, you're it......

/and no cooties!

227 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:31:29am

re: #215 Rancher

Many years ago during a time when a lot of U.S. cities were going bankrupt, or were on the verge of bankruptcy, Ed Rendell became mayor of Philadelphia and inherited a similar mess. He p*ssed off a lot of people (city unions in particular) with cuts and cost saving measures, but managed to get the city budget back in line in a couple of years.

And that's how he became Governor.

Last I heard, while states and cities all over the country are in trouble, Rendell announced that Pennsylvania is in "pretty good shape" to weather this storm.

Once upon a time voters held politicians accountable. Anymore, nobody's accountable for anything.

228 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:33:01am

re: #227 littleoldlady

Many years ago during a time when a lot of U.S. cities were going bankrupt, or were on the verge of bankruptcy, Ed Rendell became mayor of Philadelphia and inherited a similar mess. He p*ssed off a lot of people (city unions in particular) with cuts and cost saving measures, but managed to get the city budget back in line in a couple of years.

And that's how he became Governor.

Last I heard, while states and cities all over the country are in trouble, Rendell announced that Pennsylvania is in "pretty good shape" to weather this storm.

Once upon a time voters held politicians accountable. Anymore, nobody's accountable for anything.

The taxpayers are always held accountable.

229 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:33:33am

re: #222 gmsc

Since it seems to be cartoon music night, how about a little The Cat Came Back?

And I reply with "Blackfly".

230 Stonemason  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:34:05am

re: #227 littleoldlady

I switched parties to work for Ed in his first campaign, got to meet and chat with him one Friday afternoon. Nice enough guy, I was happy with what he had done to my Parents hometown so I gave back.

231 milton  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:35:27am

In a 2006 interview with Ben Smith of the NY Daily News, Rahm Emanuel, who will be Barack Obama's White House chief of staff, laughed at Smith's concerns about how far-reaching a mandatory civil-service plan would be.


UPDATE FULL VIDEO AVAILABLE HERE (first one had an error)

[Link: www.eyeblast.tv...]


Rahm Emanuel, Obama Chief of Staff on MANDATORY CIVIL SERVICE PLAN

232 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:37:42am

Damn, I don't get to see any of these links, they're all blocked.

233 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:39:30am

re: #232 Rancher

At work? Here's a hint for later. Hit the show links button when you get home. Saves time in filtering through the thread looking for these nice little nuggets.

234 freetoken  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:42:24am

re: #227 littleoldlady

Once upon a time voters held politicians accountable. Anymore, nobody's accountable for anything.

Well, out here Arnold is still trying to get his biceps around how big the deficit will be this year (and probably next year.) Estimates run over $20 billion. That is a lot of money, and the state is now saying they need to raise sales tax about 1.5 points! That, on-top of some pretty broad budget cuts.

As the Japanese found out in the last decade, raising sales tax just reduces commerce by about the same amount, when the economy is stagnant. Californian politicians are so used to a growing California economy that they don't realize that in a recession increasing taxes at the state level just moves commerce across state lines.

235 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:43:14am

re: #231 milton

That's stunning.

236 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:44:27am

re: #230 Stonemason

I switched parties to work for Ed in his first campaign, got to meet and chat with him one Friday afternoon. Nice enough guy, I was happy with what he had done to my Parents hometown so I gave back.

Right. I've met him, too. When you filter out some of the off-the-wall partisan party stuff he says (which, when you see him say in person, you'd SWEAR he was rolling his eyes ;-) he's a "good politician".

If there is such a thing. :-/

Meanwhile, Philadelphia has a wage tax, over and above the state tax, a +1% sales tax added to the state's, and higher business taxes than the surrounding counties. (I think it still does, anyway.)

Gee? Where did the tax base go?

237 Stonemason  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:48:43am

re: #236 littleoldlady

(which, when you see him say in person, you'd SWEAR he was rolling his eyes ;-)

OH MY...when I met him, there was a life-sized cardboard Bill Clinton in the office. I swear he rolled his eyes at it when he saw it!

He was always a conservative Dem, or a Liberal Rep (as he ran the first time he tried to be Mayor)

238 jantjepietje  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:49:01am

geenstijl reportsthat he iraian ship where lgf reported aboutearlier
has arrived in Rotterdam


I put it through google translate and corrected some errors of the translating

In the port this afternoon is Deyanat MS Iran arrived, BNR reported, and according conspiracy theorists this is the largest dirty bomb ever created. Do you remember? Somali pirates hijacked the ship earlier this year, but they all mysteriously deceased when theyopened the holds. The pirates showed symptoms that appeared on many suspected radiation sickness. Lost hair, blood poop, bleeding gums and death. Why the ship is now in Rotterdam, is a mystery. Within the Port Authority would circulate a memo in which order is given to additional checks on Iran Deyanat. Think men in white suits, AIVD'ers and no doubt a lost American.
Update 08.00 Despite the strongest lead ever in the Dutch maritime history that we have a nuclear / illegal, scary and strange ship have, nothing happens. The Port Authority finds an examination of the contents are not needed. That would only make some friendly Muslim states angry.
239 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:49:25am

re: #231 milton

Have you put that up in the spinoffs yet?

240 Stonemason  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:49:59am

re: #236 littleoldlady

As far as the Philly taxes now, yup, they are killing the City. Nutter is trying hard to clean up after the thieves that ran the place for eight years but he is fighting an uphill battle.

241 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:50:17am

this one is for my 6 element, without whom i'd be FUBAR.....

Moonchild

i went out at twilight this evening, and there was the (more or less) full moon, just up from the east, surrounded by the evening haze, which was a pastel of pink/red/purple......... think Jimi Hendrix in a visual.

242 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:52:22am

Fruitcup = T-8 minutes and counting.

243 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:53:56am

re: #242 Intrepid

Fruitcup = T-8 minutes and counting.

Time Killer

244 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:55:29am

re: #242 Intrepid

Fruitcup = T-8 minutes and counting.

fruit cup: fixed and fermenting......

/white smoke

245 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:56:07am

re: #240 Stonemason

I like Nutter. I wish him much success.

And nothing could be better for the city than to get the Street brothers OUTTA THERE!

246 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:57:56am
247 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:59:54am

re: #239 BlueCanuck

Perhaps he doesn't know how. Why don't you add it?

248 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 1:59:55am

Mmm...fruitcup!

249 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

250 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:02:27am

Woot! Fruitcup from littleoldlady!

Yay!

251 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:02:34am

re: #249 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

nothing tastes quite as good as tardy fruit cup:
it gives the fixins more time to meld......

252 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:04:16am

re: #250 Intrepid

Psst- you gotsta ding it, Trep.

Thanks LOL

253 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:04:33am

re: #251 redc1c4

nothing tastes quite as good as tardy fruit cup:
it gives the fixins more time to meld......

Yes, that .01 second gives it that extra edge!

heh/white smoke?

254 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:04:53am

re: #247 Sharmuta

Done. Ooops, maybe I should have put in a hat tip.

/getting tired and wonky

255 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:05:14am

re: #249 littleoldlady

Thanks for the fruitcup lovely lady.

256 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:05:26am

Fenway! :-)

Intrepid! :-)

red! :-)

WHAT tardy?! Oh...you mean YOURS. ;-)

Sharmuta! :-)

Stonemason, my lurking friend! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

jantjepietje! :-)

milton! :-)

Who did I miss?....LGF! :-)

257 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:05:46am

re: #252 Sharmuta

Psst- you gotsta ding it, Trep.

Thanks LOL

Whoopsie! Dinged now.

/so embarrased...

258 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:06:16am

re: #238 jantjepietje

Good Lord, glad it's over there and not here.

259 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:08:20am

re: #257 Intrepid

LOL is too nice to ask for dings. But I'm not. ;p

260 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:08:42am

re: #259 Sharmuta

I'm saving my whining for my birthday. ;-)

261 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:10:58am

re: #258 Rancher

Good Lord, glad it's over there and not here.

nothing to see here, and it's all in the hands of competent authorities.....

/white smoke

262 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:11:55am

re: #259 Sharmuta

LOL is too nice to ask for dings. But I'm not. ;p

Which is why we are glad you are involved in your local RNC stuff.

No wimps need apply there!

263 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:16:24am

re: #262 Intrepid

Thanks, Intrepid.

264 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:16:36am

Ahhh, peaceful here tonight. I do enjoy the occassional troll bashing, but the moments and times of quiet are the most enjoyable.

265 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:16:44am

re: #231 milton

In a 2006 interview with Ben Smith of the NY Daily News, Rahm Emanuel, who will be Barack Obama's White House chief of staff, laughed at Smith's concerns about how far-reaching a mandatory civil-service plan would be.


UPDATE FULL VIDEO AVAILABLE HERE (first one had an error)

[Link: www.eyeblast.tv...]


Rahm Emanuel, Obama Chief of Staff on MANDATORY CIVIL SERVICE PLAN

The gall of that man! He used the specter of another terrorist attack or another Katrina to justify enslaving the American people!

266 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:17:30am

re: #254 BlueCanuck

*sigh* You added it into the linkviewer but not the spinoffs on the thread, huh?

267 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:17:50am

re: #264 BlueCanuck

Ahhh, peaceful here tonight. I do enjoy the occassional troll bashing, but the moments and times of quiet are the most enjoyable.

Snedgar is gone, and his faithful male companion, JohnDakota.

268 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:19:05am

re: #265 MandyManners

No way! I thought it was Republicans who ruled through fear....

269 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:19:20am

re: #265 MandyManners

It's stunning, isn't it.

And Blue- I added it to the spinoffs on the thread.

270 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:20:13am
271 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:21:43am

re: #267 MandyManners

Snedgar is gone, and his faithful male companion, JohnDakota.

*sniggersnigger snorf*

Heh.

272 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:22:17am

re: #266 Sharmuta

Sorry, like I said, I am getting a little groggy here. My apologies.

/also keep forgetting about the spinoff part of link viewing.

273 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:22:52am

I about fell over when I heard him say that the "volunteers" would get to know what America means through service. What did Communism say about labor? Peace through labor or somesuch.

274 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:24:22am

re: #273 MandyManners

I can't believe he openly laughed at the reporter!

275 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:25:26am

re: #273 MandyManners

Service to understand what it means to be an American is what turned my stomach.

276 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:25:33am

re: #273 MandyManners

Didn't the Nazi concentration camps had the 'Work Makes Free' in German over the gates?

277 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:25:38am

re: #271 Intrepid

*sn*****sn***** snorf*

Heh.

Heh - I guess I should have "snicker snicker snorf"'d.

Instead of mostly using "G's". Not that I meant anything by it. Never.

278 shanec99  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:25:42am

I heard thatre: #256 littleoldlady
Ya missed me.

279 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:26:27am

re: #273 MandyManners

Arbeit macht frei.

280 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:27:24am

re: #277 Intrepid

yeah, someone else found out about that a couple nights ago too.

281 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:27:26am

shanec99! :-)

mea culpa!

282 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:27:44am

re: #276 Fenway_Nation

Didn't the Nazi concentration camps had the 'Work Makes Free' in German over the gates?

re: #279 littleoldlady

Arbeit macht frei.

That's what I was thinking about.

283 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:27:56am

re: #279 littleoldlady

Arbeit macht frei.

NEVER AGAIN!

284 shanec99  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:29:03am

re: #273 MandyManners
Good lord, help us.
These people and their funny ideas.
If they start talking about re-education camps for children during summer (similar to some ideas under it takes a village to raise a child) I will stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.

285 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:29:20am

re: #274 Sharmuta


I can- remember Audacity?

286 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:29:47am

re: #280 BlueCanuck

yeah, someone else found out about that a couple nights ago too.

Really? Did someone use the actual "N" word here?

287 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:30:32am

The snickering about the jumping-jacks got to me, too. When did contravening the Thirteenth Amendment become a joke?

288 shanec99  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:30:35am

re: #281 littleoldlady
(Takes a bow)

Well thank you lovely lady. I hate to be left out. If this room were an egg I would have to be sitting on top of the yolk.

289 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:31:24am

re: #284 shanec99

Good lord, help us.
These people and their funny ideas.
If they start talking about re-education camps for children during summer (similar to some ideas under it takes a village to raise a child) I will stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I don't give them the benefit of the doubt at all. They despise America and Americans.

290 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:32:25am

re: #273 MandyManners

I about fell over when I heard him say that the "volunteers" would get to know what America means through service. What did Communism say about labor? Peace through labor or somesuch.

And if one chooses to go 'AWOL' from this 'volunteer service'...?

291 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:34:06am

re: #290 Oh no...Sand People!

And if one chooses to go 'AWOL' from this 'volunteer service'...?

Nuh. That's the nightmare that woke me at 1 am!

292 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:35:31am

re: #291 littleoldlady

Nuh. That's the nightmare that woke me at 1 am!

I swear... I don't know if we really understand the 'change' that is coming.

My moonbat sense has been tingling all summer and now the last week it has been in overdrive...

293 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:35:38am

re: #290 Oh no...Sand People!

And if one chooses to go 'AWOL' from this 'volunteer service'...?

I bet it'll be the same as going AWOL from military service.

294 shanec99  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:35:58am

re: #289 MandyManners

I don't give them the benefit of the doubt at all. They despise America and Americans.

I don't think all of them do. Some of them I think are well intentioned idiots. Well intentioned... but idiots none the less.

When they come up with their nutty ideas they all agree and slap them selves on the back and proclaim their genius with stupid cliches like: "Great minds think alike!"
Meanwhile the rest of us can sit back and remind ourselves that: "Fools seldom differ!"

295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:38:11am

Hail fellow Citizens of the World, Loyal(but soon to be Traitorous) Opposition to Obummer I bring news of good tidings - great joy: Russia, U.S., EU may yet agree common security deal - Lavrov

Russia, the United States and the European Union still have time to agree on ways of ensuring security before missiles are deployed in Poland and Russia's Kaliningrad Region, the Russian foreign minister said on Tuesday.

Sergei Lavrov said a security agreement based on respect for common interests would negate the planned deployment of a U.S. missile shield in central Europe, on the one hand, and the possibility of tactical missiles being stationed in Russia's western exclave bordering Poland, on the other.
[…]
Russia, which says the missile defense system is a threat to its national security, has indicated it will not address the U.S. proposals until after President-elect Barack Obama is {editied & translated from Rooshkie} inaugurated under full command of Moscow, Beijing & Tehran in January.

This ought to go smoothly...dump Missile Defense, push through the LOST Treaty, Obummer's Global Poverty Act...eh..the ICC; yes...yes...yes...this ought to go quite smoothly....just watch that first step.

Mornin all...another day in paradise.

296 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:38:32am

re: #294 shanec99

I don't think all of them do. Some of them I think are well intentioned idiots. Well intentioned... but idiots none the less.

When they come up with their nutty ideas they all agree and slap them selves on the back and proclaim their genius with stupid cliches like: "Great minds think alike!"
Meanwhile the rest of us can sit back and remind ourselves that: "Fools seldom differ!"

How can one wish to impose servitude on Americans and not despise America?

297 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:38:56am

re: #293 MandyManners

I bet it'll be the same as going AWOL from military service.

You mean the Code-Pinkos and various left-wing scum will embrace us with open arms?

/

298 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:39:03am

re: #286 Intrepid

No, it was the same word you tried to use as well. I got a chuckle out of it at least. Unfortunately Charles has to put filters like that in place to avoid trolls and such.

299 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:40:23am

And if Obama even lives up to 10% of his 'promises' and campaign pledges... we are in for one heckuva ride. I 'hope' he was only doing political pseudo speak and follows the path of all politicians and promised the world and fails to deliver. For some reason though I think he is more motivated to deliver than anyone can imagine.

300 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:40:42am

re: #297 Fenway_Nation

You mean the Code-Pinkos and various left-wing scum will embrace us with open arms?

/

Wonder if Canada would get a new generation of Draft Dodgers.

/and would the same people supporting "War Resisters" support them?

301 shanec99  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:41:20am

re: #293 MandyManners

I bet it'll be the same as going AWOL from military service.

Please don't say that... our nation outlawed forced servitude years ago, when an eloquent Republican guided the nation through its most perilous years.

Let us pledge not to allow any government to force our children into servitude that is not dictated by the constitution.

All duties not specifically given to the government is to be left to the people is how I understand the constitution. Please someone tell me if I err.

302 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:42:58am

re: #284 shanec99

Good lord, help us.
These people and their funny ideas.
If they start talking about re-education camps for children during summer (similar to some ideas under it takes a village to raise a child) I will stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I assume you saw the teacher telling the little girl her Daddy will be in Iraq for a hundred years if McCain gets elected? The kids don't need re-education, they are indoctrinating them as we speak.

303 Stonemason  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:43:15am

re: #301 shanec99

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The ninth amendment...clear as day.

304 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:44:15am

re: #292 Oh no...Sand People!

Big, BIG fight with my favorite cousin, who voted for Obama because he thought that would prevent his kids from being drafted!

From the get-go - months ago! - I was sending him links from Obama's own website claiming that he'd increase the number of people in the armed forces. How will he do that without a draft?

305 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:44:17am

re: #300 BlueCanuck

Wonder if Canada would get a new generation of Draft Dodgers.

/and would the same people supporting "War Resisters" support them?

I can already see the ads placed on placards on the sides of the buses, MSNBC, ABC, CNN, FOX, as they drive the masses to 'Civil Boot Camp' for the mandatory 3 - 9 months depending on what Obama feels like should be the term...

Why do I get the feeling only 18 -25 year olds with an (R) in front of their name will be the only one's required to go?

306 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:45:16am

re: #297 Fenway_Nation

You mean the Code-Pinkos and various left-wing scum will embrace us with open arms?

/

Not even if they shave under those arms.

307 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:45:17am

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Underpass.

/in Costa Rico...

308 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:45:53am

re: #301 shanec99

Please don't say that... our nation outlawed forced servitude years ago, when an eloquent Republican guided the nation through its most perilous years.

Let us pledge not to allow any government to force our children into servitude that is not dictated by the constitution.

All duties not specifically given to the government is to be left to the people is how I understand the constitution. Please someone tell me if I err.

You don't 'err', but you did notice how the 'election' turned out...right?

///

309 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:46:19am

re: #301 shanec99

Please don't say that... our nation outlawed forced servitude years ago, when an eloquent Republican guided the nation through its most perilous years.

Let us pledge not to allow any government to force our children into servitude that is not dictated by the constitution.

All duties not specifically given to the government is to be left to the people is how I understand the constitution. Please someone tell me if I err.

That's what the Constitution says.

310 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:48:31am

re: #309 MandyManners

That's what the Constitution says.

Oh, that old thing?

311 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:49:14am

re: #310 littleoldlady

Oh, that old thing?

LOL!

312 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:49:39am

gmsc posted this earlier:

[Link: claytoncramer.com...]

If this is truly a zogby poll at the moment- this is totally whack.

313 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:50:43am

re: #309 MandyManners

That's what the Constitution says.

It also says something about free speech but we still have McCain Feingold. Also consider that newly appointed judges will believe in a "living" constitution.

314 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:52:05am

Gonna' get some tea.

315 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:53:10am

re: #312 Sharmuta

Wow, those are some pretty extreme positions.

316 rightside  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:55:43am

re: #312 Sharmuta

wtf!

317 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 2:57:05am

re: #312 Sharmuta

On the other hand, some of the questions almost read like Republican push polling:

Yet they are all positions Obama supported or proposed.

318 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:00:04am
If you knew about Barack Obama's support for Congressional legislation that would overturn abortion restrictions, such as parental notification, gender selection abortions and requiring doctors to have local hospital certificates when performing abortions

Gender selection- nice. And yeah- if abortions are going on in this country, we sure wouldn't want to prevent butchers from getting their hands on women.

319 akak  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:01:08am

Why the hell would Olmert & E Barak ban the IDF from using snipers from protecting border guards & police?

Parents & families must be furious.

320 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:02:21am

re: #312 Sharmuta

gmsc posted this earlier:

[Link: claytoncramer.com...]

If this is truly a zogby poll at the moment- this is totally whack.

56 PER CENT? I'M WELL AND TRULY FUCKED.

321 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:03:16am

re: #313 Rancher

It also says something about free speech but we still have McCain Feingold. Also consider that newly appointed judges will believe in a "living" constitution.

That can be tossed but, how can one just toss the 13th Amendment?

322 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:04:31am

re: #321 MandyManners

That can be tossed but, how can one just toss the 13th Amendment?

The islamists will love that!

323 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:06:39am

re: #320 MandyManners

56 PER CENT? I'M WELL AND TRULY FUCKED.

Ahem. That sure got my attention. ;D
Good Morning LGF.

324 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:07:06am

re: #320 MandyManners

Just start a business, run it into the ground, then ask Congress for a bailout. It's what all the cool businesses are doing these days.

325 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:07:15am

re: #322 Sharmuta

The islamists will love that!

You betcha'. They helped slavery many, many years ago.

326 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:07:47am

re: #323 Spare O'Lake

Ahem. That sure got my attention. ;D
Good Morning LGF.

Good morning to you, too.

327 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:08:13am

re: #324 Sharmuta

Just start a business, run it into the ground, then ask Congress for a bailout. It's what all the cool businesses are doing these days.

I couldn't do that to employees or the American people.

328 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:08:33am

re: #325 MandyManners

They won't face prosecution for having slaves here anymore.

329 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:08:56am

re: #327 MandyManners

I was trying to make a joke.

330 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:09:25am

re: #312 Sharmuta

gmsc posted this earlier:

[Link: claytoncramer.com...]

If this is truly a zogby poll at the moment- this is totally whack.

Sex selection? Gee, look at how well that's served the Chinese people.

331 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:10:06am

Been keeping my eyes on the London Stock Exchange this morning. Doesn't look good still. But things may change later on.

332 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:10:22am

re: #330 MandyManners

Wait til they find the homosexual gene, then we can have orientation abortions too.

333 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:10:29am

re: #330 MandyManners

Sex selection? Gee, look at how well that's served the Chinese people.

Not to mention India as well.

334 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:10:32am

re: #328 Sharmuta

They won't face prosecution for having slaves here anymore.

Slave/no-slave sections on international flights?

335 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:11:06am

re: #329 Sharmuta

I was trying to make a joke.

I know. I'm feeling rather humor-impaired at times. Mebbe' my tea will help.

336 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:11:53am

What if 10% of us "just say no" to their slavery program?

/new government works project: Jail Building!
//or let's just cut to the chase and call them Concentration Camps.

337 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:12:00am

re: #332 Sharmuta

Wait til they find the homosexual gene, then we can have orientation abortions too.

I don't see how since many who oppose homosexuality also oppose abortion.

338 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:12:51am

re: #335 MandyManners

Would you like to play with Log™?

339 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:12:56am

Did anyone else notice WAB wore a solid, red dress to go to the White House?

340 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:14:47am

What's this shit about Hannah Montana having the Obama Girls on as guests? Gah. I'll have to stop The Kid from watching that. (He claims he doesn't now but, I catch him watching sometimes with a silly grin on his face. When I ask him about it, he almost shouts, "I hate Hannah Montana. She's ugly!" Yeah. Right.)

341 rightside  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:15:11am

re: #339 MandyManners

In case of spillage?

342 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:15:14am

re: #339 MandyManners

Hey! We're boycotting TV! Remember?

343 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:16:16am

re: #338 Sharmuta

Would you like to play with Log™?

Pecan log, maybe.

344 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:16:39am

re: #341 rightside

In case of spillage?

Huh?

345 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:16:44am

Ah, first pour.

So I see Obama & Co. have been busy gnawing at the foundations. Is it Mourning in America yet?

346 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:16:59am

re: #342 littleoldlady

Hey! We're boycotting TV! Remember?

I'm not boycotting Fox. However, my MUTE button is primed.

347 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:17:02am

re: #342 littleoldlady

Hey! We're boycotting TV! Remember?

No, we are boycotting the news networks. :)

/still some good t.v. out there I think.

348 The Other Les  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:17:37am

Thought for the Day

"Most Russians Urban-Americans don't care whether they are ruled by fascists or communists or even Martians as long as they can buy six kinds of sausage lettuce in the store and lots of cheap vodka overpriced gourmet coffee."

-- General Alexander Lebed The Other Les.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

349 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:18:16am

re: #347 BlueCanuck

Right. HGTV, TCM, AMC.

The Longest Day (Movie) was on yesterday. Love that one!

350 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:18:51am

TV cuts into LGF time.

351 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:19:21am

It makes a nice book stand.

352 rightside  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:19:24am

re: #344 MandyManners

The bloodletting. I figure WAB would have told Laura to GTFO of "her" house now.

353 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:19:34am

re: #349 littleoldlady

Right. HGTV, TCM, AMC.

The Longest Day (Movie) was on yesterday. Love that one!

Personal favorite has to be "A Bridge Too Far".

/well and Patton too

354 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:19:59am

Actually, any kind of stand. It accumulates clutter.

355 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:20:25am

re: #352 rightside

The bloodletting. I figure WAB would have told Laura to GTFO of "her" house now.

Oy.

356 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:20:51am

I suppose Michelle is not ashamed to live in the White House now.

Someone should ask her.

357 rightside  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:21:24am

re: #355 MandyManners

Oh, I am sure you'll hear it referred to as the "black" house some now.

358 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:22:02am

COVINGTON, La. — An Oklahoma woman invited to a rural Louisiana campsite for a Ku Klux Klan initiation ritual was shot and killed after she asked to be taken back to town, the sheriff of a New Orleans suburb said Tuesday.

Eight people were arrested after authorities found the woman's body hidden under some brush, on the side of a road several miles from the remote campsite where the initiation was planned.

Investigators found weapons, several flags and six Klan robes at the campsite, St. Tammany Parish Sheriff Jack Strain said in a news release.

SNIP

359 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:22:48am

re: #356 godfrey

I suppose Michelle is not ashamed to live in the White House now.

Someone should ask her.

She'll withold her pride until 2012 to see if CBBHO gets reelected.

360 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:23:31am

re: #357 rightside

Oh, I am sure you'll hear it referred to as the "black" house some now.

I don't see it happening. Now, maybe the "Obamahouse".

361 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:25:48am

Why can't the US government allow the big 3 auto manufacturers to go bankrupt? Is it because their unionized employees, bankers, suppliers and shareholders would get screwed? But that's what is supposed to happen in any bankruptcy, and then the company is supposed to emerge as a leaner, more competitive enterprise with a much lower cost structure.
What will government bailouts do except to prop up uncompetitive companies.
Would it not be better to let the big three go down, and save the bailout money to help the employees and suppliers to survive until the restructuring is done?
Who says size doesn't matter?!

362 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:25:56am

Who voted for Obama? -- really good post at Clayton Cramer's. Note:

One of the reasons that Republicans can't hold onto power is that their policies promoting economic growth and low income tax rates--especially in the higher brackets--end up creating vast swarms of highly paid, undertaxed voters--who reward Republicans for this by voting Democratic.

He has some suggestions.

363 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:28:03am

re: #362 godfrey

They "feel" undertaxed, I would say.

364 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:29:41am

For a dozen amusing/disturbing posts, see A Welsh View.

365 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:30:09am

re: #361 Spare O'Lake

Reason: unions.

366 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:30:33am

Good morning, Lizards.

367 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:32:18am

Good morning {goddess}, welcome to the early mourning thread. ;)

/it isn't all that bad yet though.

368 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:32:20am

Morning, GOTC. How's de cowd?

369 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:33:18am

re: #366 goddessoftheclassroom

Top of the day to you!

Feeling better?

370 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:33:27am

Good morning, goddess

371 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:36:03am

goddess! :-)

372 rightside  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:36:35am

{goddess}

373 godfrey  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:36:51am

re: #367 BlueCanuck

It's getting worse: Obama likely to escape campaign audit.

374 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:39:03am

{Lizards}

I'm feeling better, thanks! It's amazing how a hot, steamy shower makes one feel better! I know about lunchtime I'll feel crummy, but onward!

375 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:41:30am

re: #373 godfrey

Nice. I can see where this will end up down the road. Can you say campaign Infomercials?

/would we also get Shamwows with our donations?

376 nonic  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:41:55am

Good morning, people.

You know, when you think about it, it's really a very odd phenomenon that gays (and apparently not only "activists" but also just normal people) are demonstrating after an election against results they don't like. What do they think is going to happen? The government will ignore the election results? There will be a new election?

This is very odd. And it seems to me to be just one or two couple of little steps to riots after an election.

I would call this phenomenon "ominous."

377 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:42:02am

I just saw on CNN that Michele's mom will be moving into the White House. Harry Truman's mother-in-law was the last one, and they say she hated Harry's guts.
This whole mother-in-law thing is going to set a very dangerous precedent.

378 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:44:27am

re: #377 Spare O'Lake

I'm picturing (smelling) a very stinky kitchen.

/hey! that's what happens here when MY mom comes to visit...

nonic! :-)

379 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:44:31am

re: #376 nonic

Good morning, people.

You know, when you think about it, it's really a very odd phenomenon that gays (and apparently not only "activists" but also just normal people) are demonstrating after an election against results they don't like. What do they think is going to happen? The government will ignore the election results? There will be a new election?

This is very odd. And it seems to me to be just one or two couple of little steps to riots after an election.

I would call this phenomenon "ominous."

I'd call it just fine until the Molotov cocktails are lit.

380 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:45:25am

re: #377 Spare O'Lake

I just saw on CNN that Michele's mom will be moving into the White House. Harry Truman's mother-in-law was the last one, and they say she hated Harry's guts.
This whole mother-in-law thing is going to set a very dangerous precedent.

I wonder whether Obama will invite his aunt from Boston?

381 laZardo  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:45:26am

re: #376 nonic

Rights before democracy, as they say.

/is bi, and facepalms

382 nonic  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:46:57am

I mean....... what is the legitimate basis for demonstrating against ELECTION RESULTS? The will of the people was expressed. That's the way it works, for good or bad. This IS the system -- you have to accept it. Or we have chaos.

383 windhorse  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:47:11am

all 57 states.....

384 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:50:31am

re: #382 nonic

Would you mind explaining this "Following the RULES" thing to me? I'm not sure I get it...

385 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:51:31am

re: #382 nonic

I mean....... what is the legitimate basis for demonstrating against ELECTION RESULTS? The will of the people was expressed. That's the way it works, for good or bad. This IS the system -- you have to accept it. Or we have chaos.

There is no legitimate basis --- unless you believe that there is some sort of "higher principle" that demands waiving electoral results in order to ensure the implementation of some sort of policy.

That belief -- that laws, traditions, institutions should not be recognized if they hinder what is perceived to be necessary action -- is, of course, the root of totalitarianism.

386 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:51:34am

re: #332 Sharmuta

Wait till they find the homosexual gene, then we can have orientation abortions too.

That's definitely going to happen. Downs kids are currently being aborted. Short kids, ginger kids, potentially fat kids, any kid that doesn't fit the parent's idea of ideal.

The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best.

387 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:51:55am

re: #380 goddessoftheclassroom

I wonder whether Obama will invite his aunt from Boston?

I can hear the sounds of millions of suitcases opening across America.

388 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:52:40am

re: #382 nonic

I mean....... what is the legitimate basis for demonstrating against ELECTION RESULTS? The will of the people was expressed. That's the way it works, for good or bad. This IS the system -- you have to accept it. Or we have chaos.

See- this is one of the things that makes me think things will be okay. They can't completely shut down free speech because then their own people wouldn't know what to do with their time if they couldn't protest.

I mean really- it's like it's all they live for.

389 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:52:41am

re: #377 Spare O'Lake

I just saw on CNN that Michele's mom will be moving into the White House. Harry Truman's mother-in-law was the last one, and they say she hated Harry's guts.
This whole mother-in-law thing is going to set a very dangerous precedent.

Who's gonna' pay for THAT?!

390 nonic  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:52:52am

re: #377 Spare O'Lake

I just saw on CNN that Michele's mom will be moving into the White House. Harry Truman's mother-in-law was the last one, and they say she hated Harry's guts.
This whole mother-in-law thing is going to set a very dangerous precedent.


No kidding. Maybe that's the answer for Aunt Tooti or whatever her name is, the illegal one up in Boston. If she's got a room in the White House, then INS is hardly gonna boot her out, are they?

So, this means now the American taxpayer is going to support Barack Obama's mother-in-law. I presume we're not going to deduct for room and board out of her Social Security, right?

This is going to be a VERY interesting 4 years! LOL

391 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:53:20am

re: #380 goddessoftheclassroom

I wonder whether Obama will invite his aunt from Boston?

Maybe after he's pardoned her and had her application for citizenship rushed through.

392 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:53:21am

re: #385 Lucius Septimius

Nota Bene: I'm not saying that people don't have a right to protest, but the belief that a law, once agreed upon by the electorate, should be overturned because of the demands of a minority is not a democratic sentiment.

393 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:53:44am

re: #386 Rancher

Excellent use of the selected quote, and I agree, so one ding for you... Rustler?

394 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:53:56am

re: #382 nonic

I mean....... what is the legitimate basis for demonstrating against ELECTION RESULTS? The will of the people was expressed. That's the way it works, for good or bad. This IS the system -- you have to accept it. Or we have chaos.

So, dissent should be allowed only before an election?

395 laZardo  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:54:49am

re: #392 Lucius Septimius

Hence their likening of Prop-8-style legislation to things like Plessy v. Ferguson.

I don't quite get it either.

396 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:55:47am

re: #386 Rancher

That's definitely going to happen. Downs kids are currently being aborted. Short kids, ginger kids, potentially fat kids, any kid that doesn't fit the parent's idea of ideal.

The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best.

It still won't prevent the fairies from leaving changelings.

397 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:56:57am

re: #395 laZardo

Hence their likening of Prop-8-style legislation to things like Plessy v. Ferguson.

I don't quite get it either.

Precisely -- they want judicial activism, yet don't realize that most of what they decry as tyranny was the result of judicial action (or non-action).

398 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:57:57am

re: #393 Sharmuta

Rustler?

Nope, Rustler is off till Thursday night.

Real Rancher

399 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:58:14am

I know I should post this on the Bush thread, but I want to say it here anyway. Thank you, George Bush for your service to this country. A country that had artists and leftists making movies about your assassination. T-shirt makers raking in cash for countless moonbat slogans.(BushHitler) Unlike those ungrateful, SAFE Amercians, I would have voted for you to keep me safe for the next 8 years.

400 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 3:59:32am

re: #398 Rancher

He really needs to get his own nic, Dad.

401 gregg  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:00:48am

re: #373 godfrey

It's getting worse: Obama likely to escape campaign audit.

That should be the final nail in the coffin of McCain-Feingold.

402 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:00:51am

re: #400 Sharmuta

He really needs to get his own nic, Dad.

Yeah, we're confused enough on a regular day without trying to figure out whose posting with whose nick. :)

403 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:00:57am

re: #339 MandyManners

Did anyone else notice WAB wore a solid, red dress to go to the White House?

and looked tacky in it, i might add.....

404 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:01:48am

re: #378 littleoldlady

I'm picturing (smelling) a very stinky kitchen.
/hey! that's what happens here when MY mom comes to visit...

They were saying something about Ritz battered fried chicken for the kids.
Sounds pretty good.

405 nonic  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:02:39am

re: #388 Sharmuta

Yeah, but there can be permitted "free speech" and banned "free speech." Which we're not all that far away from right now with political correctness regarding race and islam.

406 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:02:48am

re: #403 redc1c4

Despite recent events tearing republicans apart, let us have a moment of thanks that we will have a first lady we all can agree to enjoy snarking for years to come.

407 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:03:42am

re: #403 redc1c4

and looked tacky in it, i might add.....

I thought she looked just fine but, it was an interesting choice of colors. Something tells me she didn't wear it as a Reagan-Red.

I still cannot get over the dress she wore last Tuesday night. Its symbolism just screamed.

408 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:04:09am

re: #400 Sharmuta

He sure does, only problem is once he leaves work he plays EQ all day. I'll try and get him registered if I happen across an open door thread.

409 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:05:04am

re: #406 Sharmuta

Despite recent events tearing republicans apart, let us have a moment of thanks that we will have a first lady we all can agree to enjoy snarking for years to come.

*rubbing hands with anticipatory glee*

410 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:05:23am

re: #408 Rancher

Could be worse. He could be a WoW junkie.

/it has dragged down many a geek friend of mine.

411 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:06:01am

re: #409 MandyManners

*rubbing hands with anticipatory glee*

And, it's not glee based on her being the First Lady but, based on her being a freaking Commie.

412 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:06:08am

The more I think on that supposed zogby poll, the more suspicious I'm getting. Don't you think that would have been relayed to another source by now if it's a couple days old?

413 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:06:19am

re: #377 Spare O'Lake

I just saw on CNN that Michele's mom will be moving into the White House. Harry Truman's mother-in-law was the last one, and they say she hated Harry's guts.
This whole mother-in-law thing is going to set a very dangerous precedent.

personally, i hope it makes his life hell.....

/even more than the j*b does.

414 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:06:31am

re: #409 MandyManners

*rubbing hands with anticipatory glee*

{Mandy!} lolol

415 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:08:41am

I read this morning that Obama got 40,000 fewer votes in Ohio than Kerry did. He won because Republicans stayed home.

416 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:08:46am

re: #408 Rancher

Is he going to be "Rustler"?

417 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:09:27am

re: #415 Lucius Septimius

So- we were the real PUMAs all along, huh?

418 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:09:32am

re: #413 redc1c4

personally, i hope it makes his life hell.....

/even more than the j*b does.

Maybe he'll soon be posting on a forum about mothers-in-law. I wonder what his nic will be.

CiC?

419 galloping granny  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:09:41am

re: #405 nonic

Yeah, but there can be permitted "free speech" and banned "free speech." Which we're not all that far away from right now with political correctness regarding race and islam.

Yup. The kids have been being taught in school for a decade or more now that there is NO TOLERANCE for "offensive" speech.

420 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:10:09am

re: #417 Sharmuta

So- we were the real PUMAs all along, huh?

PUMA? No savvy the lingo.

421 nonic  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:10:18am

re: #394 MandyManners

So, dissent should be allowed only before an election?

No, but the DAY AFTER the election? And "dissent" expressed against the VOTERS?

There was fear in police departments in big cities that there might be riots if Obama did not win the election. If there had been, you could call that "dissent," too. But I would call it really bad behavior, chaos, and anti-democratic mob rule.

422 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:10:50am
Sadie gets a phone call from one of her sons...

"Mom! I won the election! Now I want you to be there for my inauguration on January 20."

"Oh, I don't know...you know how I hate to travel."

"Don't worry, Mom. I'll send Air Force One for you. You'll be traveling in luxury and comfort. It's a big day for me, and I want you to be there to share it."

"Well, okay..."

Comes January 20th and Sadie has a front row seat at the inauguration. She leans over to the woman beside her and whispers:

"See that young man with his hand on the bible?.......His brother's a doctor!"

Good day, ALL!™

423 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:10:58am

re: #419 galloping granny

Yup. The kids have been being taught in school for a decade or more now that there is NO TOLERANCE for "offensive" speech.

DING DING DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

424 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:11:12am

re: #419 galloping granny

Morning granny. Have I ever mentioned how much I hate PCspeak? Almost orwellian in nature by restricting a persons thought.

425 galloping granny  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:12:07am

re: #403 redc1c4

and looked tacky in it, i might add.....

"tacky" is not quite the right word. Tacky is when you have no sense of style at all and look like you are wearing a paper bag. I would call that much too tight for a lady of any stripe screaming red dress upscale ho.

426 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:12:18am

ROFLMAO, bye littleoldlady. Have yourself a good day now.

427 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:12:45am

re: #420 Lucius Septimius

PUMA = Party Unity My Ass. It was being used for Hillary supporters working against 0bama, but I think it was really better suited to us after all.

428 laZardo  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:12:57am

re: #415 Lucius Septimius

Sounded like ACORN didn't need to do much, if at all. That would have rendered the ACORN fears relatively moot though.

429 galloping granny  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:13:49am

re: #424 BlueCanuck

Morning granny. Have I ever mentioned how much I hate PCspeak? Almost orwellian in nature by restricting a persons thought.

I don't know if you have mentioned it, but I sure have. Fox used to have a good column that publicized ridiculous incidents around the country, but that is long gone. Unfortunately.

When we lose our tolerance we are lost as a people and as a nation.

430 laZardo  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:14:11am

re: #421 nonic

No, but the DAY AFTER the election? And "dissent" expressed against the VOTERS?

There was fear in police departments in big cities that there might be riots if Obama did not win the election. If there had been, you could call that "dissent," too. But I would call it really bad behavior, chaos, and anti-democratic mob rule.

If riots start happening now, they'd call it "overzealous celebrations."

431 nonic  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:14:14am

re: #407 MandyManners

I thought she looked just fine but, it was an interesting choice of colors. Something tells me she didn't wear it as a Reagan-Red.

I still cannot get over the dress she wore last Tuesday night. Its symbolism just screamed.

Wasn't one of the kids dressed in black? I mean, who dresses a little girl in black? Not even at a funeral.

432 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:14:14am

re: #427 Sharmuta

PUMA = Party Unity My Ass. It was being used for Hillary supporters working against 0bama, but I think it was really better suited to us after all.

Ah! Yep --- that was the case. Republicans were demoralized by the media and an incredibly inept McCain campaign. That the latter is now blaming Palin for their troubles -- the woman who have them the only bump of the campaign -- shows what a bunch of whiney losers they really are.

433 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:14:47am

Gotta go to work -- keep chumming the waters of indignation.

434 laZardo  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:15:05am

re: #433 Lucius Septimius

Cheers.

435 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:15:48am

Weak-ass defense of Sarah by McCain on Leno last night.

"These things happen in campaigns."

"I think I have at least a thousand, quote, top advisers...A top adviser said? ... I've never even heard of ... a top adviser or a high-ranking Republican official...I have a thousand top advisors."

He knows who was spreading that bull.

436 galloping granny  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:15:53am

re: #415 Lucius Septimius

I read this morning that Obama got 40,000 fewer votes in Ohio than Kerry did. He won because Republicans stayed home.

I'm still trying to figure out how a full 62.2% of the adults age 18+ in the state of Vermont showed up at the polls. In a pigs eye they did.

437 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:16:05am

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438 Rancher  Wed, Nov 12, 2008 4:16:10am