start thinking like a Cuban or a Venezuelan?

Orange is the new Stripes.

/Spit!

Electing Obama = Feeding Trolls.

Apparently ran out of duct tape.

So many assholes, so little time to kick all their asses.

GET A JOB HIPPIES!

Wonder if we should add a "kick me" sign to his back as well.

Stop thinking like an American

When hell freezes over!

You know where they don't think like an American? Outside of America, maybe you should check it out. Sudan's nice this time of year.

Looks like Obama Desertion Syndrome (ODS) has begun to take root.

"Stop hating, you stupid Americans. Only you do it. And I hate you so much for it."

"Stop thinking like an American" -
This message approved by Hugo Chavez, the Taliban, Hamas, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

I will stop thinking like an American when I am 5 days brain-dead, thank you very much.

Sure, I will care for the whole planet when the whole planet starts caring for the whole planet. Star with AlGore and John Edwards.

Self-Appointed Superior Being...Feh!

I hear that the North Korean archipelago is just lovely this time of year. The gulag archipelago that is. /

So America does NOT care for the whole planet? That's why we're first on the scene for a global crises (provided the subject regime isn't using the catastrophe as population control), give more to world charity and need than an other countries combined, have the most technologically advanced industrial methods to reduce pollution, etc., etc.

That is one moonbat who I just would not be able to resist flicking on the back of its head if I saw that effing sign.

Maybe it's just me, but looking at those losers, and reading that they were heading off to a Marine recruiting office...well, even if there's just one Marine there...

"Why'd ya only send one Texas Ranger?"
"Ya only got one riot, right?"

Heh, heh.

"No sense in believing in self-determination. All this "Everyone is the king or queen" stuff doesn't help...uh, the planet! Yeah, that's it. The planet. You must subjugate yourself to the rule of your betters for the planet."

For every new "crises", the cure is always socialism. How 'bout that?

re: #20 Silhouette

"No sense in believing in self-determination. All this "Everyone is the king or queen" stuff doesn't help...uh, the planet! Yeah, that's it. The planet. You must subjugate yourself to the rule of your betters for the planet."

For every new "crises", the cure is always socialism. How 'bout that?

If Socialism is the cure I would rather have the disease, thank you very much.

Call me stupid, but I think that battling Islamic extremism IS thinking of the whole planet.

Don't worry about the anti-war movement so much now... the minute they protest the O' for staying in Iraq/continuing Afghanistan/invading Pakistan etc they'll be given the FDR treatment and learn what it really feels like to live in a socialist utopia...

Stop thinking like an American - start thinking like a Marxist!

since "Americans" elected Juggy, they may have a point they weren't trying to make.

i, however am a patriotic American, and that's a whole different species... GFY WCW!

re: #22 Yashmak

Call me stupid, but I think that battling Islamic extremism IS thinking of the whole planet.

Look here, stupid. You are thinking like an American. See?
/

Now that President Bush has BDS, isn't their job complete?

and yesterday, in sleepy Auburn Liberalia (formerly California)
the surrender supporters known as "veterans for peace"

started a fistfight with real heroes at a smalltown parade for vets

the good news
no vets absorbed blows, but the surrender supporters took a couple shots

America does more to protect to protect the earth and keep people safe than ANY of the moonbats pwecious Communist/socialist nations. No other country that these moonbats idealize would allow then to live for questing the government. They do really do hate America.

That duct tape will come in handy when we are have a nuclear attack from our friends abroad...

I think people like these should stop BEING an American, you know like get the f#$% out of this country.

LMAO...love the picture zombie.

Moonbat's still using leftover Y2K duct tape.

Obama's election only means that we will have much more of this stuff.

His election was their reward for their efforts.

She (it?) could have saved a lot of ink.

"Stop thinking."

I like the tape on the shirt. Packing tape on top. Duct tape on the bottom.

Duhhh...-

Nope, can't do it.

Heck, she could've just stopped at, "Stop Thinking!"

re: #35 legalpad

I like the tape on the shirt. Packing tape on top. Duct tape on the bottom.

Packing tape? Ah, if only it was left over from actually packing.

re: #34 Silhouette

She (it?) could have saved a lot of ink.

"Stop thinking."

OMG, you beat me to it by seconds... darn...

re: #39 Noam Chumpski

By LGF rules, you owe me a coke.

;-)

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So many assholes, so little time to kick all their asses.

GET A JOB HIPPIES!

that is their job!

Wonder if that means we should start thinking like China?
Or Russia?
Gee, there's all sorts of possibilities here!

At least that protester got part of it right, the "stop thinking" part.

re: #34 Silhouette

She (it?) could have saved a lot of ink.

"Stop thinking."

And the environment, oil is somehow used int he production and/or shipping of ink/toner.

If I start thinking like someone who cares for the whole planet there won't be an America to think about.

maybe I should laugh at morons like this person in the photo -- but I'm overall pretty scared now about this cultural shift toward crazy-ass leftism.

re: #34 Silhouette

She (it?) could have saved a lot of ink.

"Stop thinking."

Thinking is above their pay grade.

Silly Rabbit.

The election of Obama doesn't stifle the lunatic moonbats, it ENABLES them. . .Obama is their guy, you see.

But have no fear. Most of the population still thinks these guys are nuts. Obama may be "their guy" but he's simply not going to be able to enact their agenda. At worst, he'll get part of it going.

re: #42 realwest

Wonder if that means we should start thinking like China?
Or Russia?
Gee, there's all sorts of possibilities here!

There were several times during the campaign when Obama gave China as an example of doing something we should try.

Each time I was screaming, "He's using Communist China as a Go-By?!?!" But it didn't make a blip with most people.

re: #47 karmic_inquisitor

Thinking is above their pay grade.

Being as it's a Zombie expose, it could be above their gay parade as well.

"Don't think."

-- Charles Manson.

Thank you Zombie for documenting as always what a great country this still is...there are still protest jobs available that pay well.

She has the Duct Tape applied on the wrong part of her body.

Is this like the "Think Globally - Act Locally" stuff again?

re: #45 wright1

If I start thinking like someone who cares for the whole planet there won't be an America to think about.

To the contrary, if there were no America, there would be no PLANET to think about.

Its the American military that patrols our seas enabling free trade. Our soldiers and military keeps the planet safe from the likes of North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran.

America is the biggest creator of economic growth on the planet, and the biggest innovator in research and new technology.

OT: Breaking

The whole Palin leak was a hoax!

MSNBC admits it fell for it.

The best part is that Huff Post is going with the "Fake but Accurate".

"To be clear, none of this means the Africa story is false" Why because Huff post has from ANOTHER unnamed source that "Martin Eisenstadt was not one of Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron's sources."

Get it? One guy says something, and then if you hear it from a reflection, repeating what the first guy said then you have a new source?

Hoax means Hoax.

One day she will graduate from law school, join Dewey, Cheatham & Howe, & screw my insurance company for very big bucks.

Which country are those people who care for the planet from?

Along the lines of journalistic idiocy:

Student dies after possible Fla. school shooting

One paragraph:

"The victim was found unresponsive in a school hallway, but an initial examination found no evidence of a major wound. Sgt. Frank Sousa said police don't believe shots were heard, and he said they're still investigating whether any shells were found at the scene."

Let's see, this story about a "shooting" includes:

No evidence of a major wound.
Don't believe shots were heard.
Still trying to find out if there were any shells.

Look, it may turn out to be a shooting, but - like checking it all out before running the story - the MSM still practicing ready, shoot, aim.

re: #18 Russkilitlover

So America does NOT care for the whole planet? That's why we're first on the scene for a global crises (provided the subject regime isn't using the catastrophe as population control), give more to world charity and need than an other countries combined, have the most technologically advanced industrial methods to reduce pollution, etc., etc.

That is one moonbat who I just would not be able to resist flicking on the back of its head if I saw that effing sign.

But America is Evil. Look, here I am in my work uniform (orange jump suit) and carrying around these plastic chains just to prove I am smart, chic, and have a full time job.
Do most people realize that these folks out their protesting everything under the sun DO IT FOR THE MONEY? they are paid protestors. WCW is just another communist front.

re: #42 realwest

Wonder if that means we should start thinking like China?
Or Russia?
Gee, there's all sorts of possibilities here!

* * *
I'd trade our moonbats for North Korea's starving hardworking peasants any day.

Imagine how true gulag survivors would love this country.

Here is a whole planet thought -

The whole planet has seen a great deal of prosperity in the last 10 years as the US pushed free trade and globalization as it borrowed money to buy the world's goods.

Now the world is anxiously watching the US adopt a hoarding mentality and is watching their economies shrink and their lives get much harder. The election of Obama, with his promise of high taxes and protectionism will create world wide suffering.

Just thinking globally...

re: #5 Dar ul Harb

Apparently ran out of duct tape.

"Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver."

1. Take care of yourself - if you do
2. Then you are able to take care of your family - if you do then -
3. Community ...
4. Area
5. State
6. Country
7. Planet

I still have enough going on with #s 1-2 & 3 to even be thinking about #7 is a bit of a premature jump.

On this topic (kind of), does someone here have a conservative argument or source they like to use re: the new term Fair Trade? I, of course, wouldn't want to buy from a sweatshop that misused children just to be Free Trade but I know there's more than that.

re: #61 alegrias

* * *
I'd trade our moonbats for North Korea's starving hardworking peasants any day.

Imagine how true gulag survivors would love this country.

I like the way you think! ;-)

re: #49 Silhouette

There were several times during the campaign when Obama gave China as an example of doing something we should try.

Each time I was screaming, "He's using Communist China as a Go-By?!?!" But it didn't make a blip with most people.

* * *
Silly silhouette--everyone watched the Chinese Olympics, are you kidding? What a great place! And dog is back on the menu now. (Sarc)

re: #13 calvin coolidge

"Stop thinking like an American" -
This message approved by Hugo Chavez, the Taliban, Hamas, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

and France

/it had to be said:)

re: #64 Bobibutu

1. Take care of yourself - if you do
2. Then you are able to take care of your family - if you do then -
3. Community ...
4. Area
5. State
6. Country
7. Planet

I still have enough going on with #s 1-2 & 3 to even be thinking about #7 is a bit of a premature jump.

If I do numbers 1 and 2 does that mean I have to get a job?!?!?

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!

They'll place Obama in there soon enough. As soon as they think he's deviating from what they want him to do.

The Left eats its own. Always has, always will.

BTW - anyone who likes watching cliff diving competitions might want to pull up a browser and watch the markets tank.

Good old Hank Paulson has decided to "change the plan" and preserve his 700B fund for the exclusive purpose of bailing out his buddies on wall street. Getting toxic debt off of the books is now off the table - incremental cash infusions to banks which no longer lend but still pay big bonuses is now the plan.

Yes, the flogging shall continue. And, no, the morale will not improve. I am, however, eagerly anticipating these loons marching to demand that the Ö stand trial at The Hague for war crimes. Could be as soon as February.

re: #65 Spenser (with an S)

On this topic (kind of), does someone here have a conservative argument or source they like to use re: the new term Fair Trade? I, of course, wouldn't want to buy from a sweatshop that misused children just to be Free Trade but I know there's more than that.

Most often, when an American company opens a facility in a foreign country, the company provides the best wages and working conditions in that country even if the conditions/wages are not what we expect in America. As a result, the workers benefit and the companies benefit.

The 'Fair Trade' crowd only look at the situation from the American perspective ignoring the benefit to the foreign country and workers.

re: #72 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - anyone who likes watching cliff diving competitions might want to pull up a browser and watch the markets tank.

Good old Hank Paulson has decided to "change the plan" and preserve his 700B fund for the exclusive purpose of bailing out his buddies on wall street. Getting toxic debt off of the books is now off the table - incremental cash infusions to banks which no longer lend but still pay big bonuses is now the plan.

TRANSPARENCY WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

//

Thinking about the planet is-- in a perverse way-- very American.

That's the America that has become so wealthy that it can afford to waste vast amounts of time and resources pontificating on useless, left-wing issues.

That is the most asinine thing I've seen in a long, long time.

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!

Hey! What have you got against [Insert name]? Those are perfectly acceptable words!

re: #73 Pullus Iulius

Yes, the flogging shall continue. And, no, the morale will not improve. I am, however, eagerly anticipating these loons marching to demand that the Ö stand trial at The Hague for war crimes. Could be as soon as February.

What are you talking about?

One, two, three, four.

We don't want your fucking compulsory national service corp!

(dang, that turned out to ryhme. When I started, I was expecting otherwise.)

"Stop thinking like an American"

or just stop thinking at all, like these moonbats. Thanks again, Zombie, for another reminder of what's out there.

re: #72 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - anyone who likes watching cliff diving competitions might want to pull up a browser and watch the markets tank.

Good old Hank Paulson has decided to "change the plan" and preserve his 700B fund for the exclusive purpose of bailing out his buddies on wall street. Getting toxic debt off of the books is now off the table - incremental cash infusions to banks which no longer lend but still pay big bonuses is now the plan.

* * *
Oh. In that case, may all skunks receiving over $250,000 in ill-gotten taxpayer bailout funds be blessed with Obama's higher taxes pretty pronto.

re: #76 quickjustice

Thinking about the planet is-- in a perverse way-- very American.

That's the America that has become so wealthy that it can afford to waste vast amounts of time and resources pontificating on useless, left-wing issues.

I weigh our groundwater against Moscow's anyday. Or East Berlin.

re: #72 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - anyone who likes watching cliff diving competitions might want to pull up a browser and watch the markets tank.

Good old Hank Paulson has decided to "change the plan" and preserve his 700B fund for the exclusive purpose of bailing out his buddies on wall street. Getting toxic debt off of the books is now off the table - incremental cash infusions to banks which no longer lend but still pay big bonuses is now the plan.

Look out below or my favorite...TIMBER!

Retort: How about you START thinking like an American? Just a thought.

re: #74 eschew_obfuscation

Most often, when an American company opens a facility in a foreign country, the company provides the best wages and working conditions in that country even if the conditions/wages are not what we expect in America. As a result, the workers benefit and the companies benefit.

The 'Fair Trade' crowd only look at the situation from the American perspective ignoring the benefit to the foreign country and workers.

Thanks, that's the kind of thing I was looking for. Leave it to Lizards.

re: #72 karmic_inquisitor

I saw that. It seems to me that before any money goes to these institutions, there needs to be a change in management. I'm not proposing that the Government "dictate" this, but any prudent investor checks the management out first before buying stock. If these are the guys who drove the company off the cliff, they should be out before new money goes in.

(Hey, Carl Icahn made his fortune blasting out bad management - then taking over the company. Well, he also often trashed what was left, but you get my point. Heh.)

re: #73 Pullus Iulius

My word, the umlaut. And, so soon. ;)

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

Retort: How about you START thinking like an American? Just a thought.

How about just "STOP"!

And start thinking like...a socialist/communist.

Cripes, another person with zero grasp of history. The worst environmental disasters in history have been the product of socialist policies; the Aral Sea leaps to mind. Socialist control of oil production in the Caspian Sea made that body of water into such a mess that the Salton Sea here in SoCal looks pristine. The burning of the Brazilian rain forests was no due to unfettered capitalism, but due to amok social programs designed to allow peasants to carve out their own little patch of land--literally. Think of it as a Brazilian sub-prime crisis. Then, there's Castro's demand to grow coffee in Cuba--where the soil would not support it--because it made a better cash crop.

Wrong--thinking like an American will save the planet so long as Americans can remember what has worked in the past and, more importantly, what has failed.

Hey you in the orange shirt, you are an ignorant ass.

How would you feel if you were on the examining table in the doctor's office, wearing the stupid little paper gowns with your butt exposed . . . waiting . . . and your doctor is in his office screwing around on LGF?

-gotta go.

Stop thinking like an American?

Too many people have already and that's how Obama got elected.

/verybigsigh

re: #72 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - anyone who likes watching cliff diving competitions might want to pull up a browser and watch the markets tank.

Good old Hank Paulson has decided to "change the plan" and preserve his 700B fund for the exclusive purpose of bailing out his buddies on wall street. Getting toxic debt off of the books is now off the table - incremental cash infusions to banks which no longer lend but still pay big bonuses is now the plan.

This whole bailout notion, pushed so stridently by the Dem controlled Congress, was nothing but the Big Con run on a national level. Henry Gondorff would be proud.

re: #94 Ojoe

Hey you in the orange shirt, you are an ignorant ass.

100,000 big ol' Tennessee boys want to have a word with you.

/

re: #83 alegrias

* * *
Oh. In that case, may all skunks receiving over $250,000 in ill-gotten taxpayer bailout funds be blessed with Obama's higher taxes pretty pronto.

Everyone will be blessed with higher taxes within 6 months of Obama taking office. At a minimum we are going to get a nice bump in gasoline tax, but I expect lots more, too.

If I stop thinking like an American, then I should start thinking about opressing people. Maybe even stone a rape victim.

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

I know that the Serrv.org website, which is big on "Fair Trade," and which sells all sorts of craft/funky junk from the Third World, is a big supporter of "Palestinian" crafts and does not seem to carry anything Israeli.

Now, you and I both know that the Israeli's are already building their society off the backs of the Palestinian sweat and land. They don't need any more help!

///

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Reminds me of people led into the courtroom by the bailiff.

BBL

re: #93 Iron Fist

There's someone dead. Whether they were really shot isn't important, it is the propaganda value of their death that must not be wasted. It is the narrative that matters, not the facts. Where did you go to J-school? Didn't they cover this in 101?

[/Bitter Sarc]

OMG! You're right! I completely forgot the propaganda value part. Doggone it, that was covered in J-101 the day I cut class.

:-)

Ah, the quintessential liberal non sequitur. The fact that one thinks "like an American" has no bearing on "thinking like someone who cares for the whole planet." That is to say, they are not mutually exclusive.

/An incredibly verbose way of saying COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Actually, thinking like an American is to think like someone who cares about the whole planet.

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho! [Insert name] has got to go!

BHO rhymes quite nicely.

re: #92 calcajun

And start thinking like...a socialist/communist.

Cripes, another person with zero grasp of history. The worst environmental disasters in history have been the product of socialist policies; the Aral Sea leaps to mind. Socialist control of oil production in the Caspian Sea made that body of water into such a mess that the Salton Sea here in SoCal looks pristine. The burning of the Brazilian rain forests was no due to unfettered capitalism, but due to amok social programs designed to allow peasants to carve out their own little patch of land--literally. Think of it as a Brazilian sub-prime crisis. Then, there's Castro's demand to grow coffee in Cuba--where the soil would not support it--because it made a better cash crop.

Wrong--thinking like an American will save the planet so long as Americans can remember what has worked in the past and, more importantly, what has failed.

...Chernobyl...

Hey, fool in the orange suit. Stop thinking like an imbecile, and start thinking like an American that loves freedom.

re: #76 quickjustice

Isn't this along the lines of why America and other industrialized Western nations were able to clean up pollution, establish fair laws for workers, eliminate child labor, etc -- while countries with communist governments (and many other countries) can't manage to enact these things.

Yeah, "thinking like an American" means establishing a clean environment and safe working conditions.

re: #107 MandyManners

BHO rhymes quite nicely.

And the meter works, too. ;)

"Think Like An American" - wasn't that a pop hit back in the '80s?

This is related to hippies so it's not entirely OT...

The only Daily Show clip I've ever willingly watched

Just Poop!

/the entertainment never ends.

re: #106 Land Shark

Actually, thinking like an American is to think like someone who cares about the whole planet.

These anarchists want everyone to just "stop thinking."

That sure is a long winded way of saying "Kick Me".

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

I actually wonder whether the recent resurgence of orange as a fashion color over the last few years had its start with groups like World Can't Wait.

Red and black seems to be the color of the Obamas based on their attire; The colors of the "Prarie Home Companion, er, fire Party...

I always wondered how the hippy crowd would react to Obama's campaign promise to escalate the war in Aghanistan.

At least that takes the pressure off us. The anti-war moonbats vs. the creepy cult of Obama worshippers. We can sit back like Clint Eastwood in "A Fistful of Dollars", just watching the two sides whittle each other down.

re: #91 snuffyword

How about just "STOP"!

Stop what? Thinking? No way, I don't look good in orange.
/

re: #112 Ward Cleaver

"Think Like An American" - wasn't that a pop hit back in the '80s?

Bangles? (hee, hee)

re: #112 Ward Cleaver

"Think Like An American" - wasn't that a pop hit back in the '80s?

As the publicity rep for the Bangles, we thank you. :-)

re: #118 wright1

Red and Black are the colors of a Vincent MC.

That's that.

re: #112 Ward Cleaver

"Think Like An American" - wasn't that a pop hit back in the '80s?

Thanks. Now I won't be able to get "Walk like an Egyptian" out of my head all day.

re: #119 Crusty

I always wondered how the hippy crowd would react to Obama's campaign promise to escalate the war in Aghanistan.

At least that takes the pressure off us. The anti-war moonbats vs. the creepy cult of Obama worshippers. We can sit back like Clint Eastwood in "A Fistful of Dollars", just watching the two sides whittle each other down.

The damage the two sides could do to innocents and property is not something one should condone, though.

Question for all you Lizards: I have a friend who claims to read and research more than most and I do believe him. So how come someone who seems to be rather educated not see through all the Obama rhetoric but rather thinks of him as a "breath of fresh air"?

I used to think it was because he was economically disadvantaged and thus hates big business and rich people. Then I thought it was because he was an agnostic/atheist and was mad that McCain and Palin are somewhat religious. Now I can't figure it out. Can anyone explain this to me?

World Can't Wash

re: #59 subsailor68

this is absurd.

re: #119 Crusty

The anti-war moonbats vs. the creepy cult of Obama worshippers.

Won't happen because they never really were anti-war. They just said they were.

The anti-war moonbats and the creepy cult of Obama worshippers are the same folks.

re: #124 Ojoe

Elucidate me on the reference.

re: #99 Silhouette

100,000 big ol' Tennessee boys want to have a word with you.

/

Yeah, but after losing to WYOMING? Wyoming, for God's sake! Hell, half the people in Wyoming could fit into Neyland Stadium.

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

Question for all you Lizards: I have a friend who claims to read and research more than most and I do believe him. So how come someone who seems to be rather educated not see through all the Obama rhetoric but rather thinks of him as a "breath of fresh air"?

I used to think it was because he was economically disadvantaged and thus hates big business and rich people. Then I thought it was because he was an agnostic/atheist and was mad that McCain and Palin are somewhat religious. Now I can't figure it out. Can anyone explain this to me?

Book Smarts doesn't mean one can deal with reality in a rational manner.

re: #98 FurryOldGuyJeans

This whole bailout notion, pushed so stridently by the Dem controlled Congress, was nothing but the Big Con run on a national level. Henry Gondorff would be proud.

Well I am here to admit that I got conned. I thought it would be used quickly and decisively to plug the obvious hole at the time by buying assets that would eventually appreciate and get banks lending again.

Instead, he dithered and new holes showed up everywhere and so now he is circling the wagons to protect his friends. And my kids will get to pay for it, because the money will just be given to otherwise insolvent businesses with now assets pledged in return.

I was a fool to think they would do anything. I am starting to think that Paulson went to Bush in a panic to guarantee the election for the O team and now we are learning of the payoff.

re: #125 DeafDog

Thanks. Now I won't be able to get "Walk like an Egyptian" out of my head all day.

Could be worse, a buddy of mine always sang the words as "Walk with an erection"

re: #129 Eowyn2

this is absurd.

It sure is. But Iron Fist up in post 93 hit on it. Propaganda value too much to pass up.

Sigh.

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

Question for all you Lizards: I have a friend who claims to read and research more than most and I do believe him. So how come someone who seems to be rather educated not see through all the Obama rhetoric but rather thinks of him as a "breath of fresh air"?

I used to think it was because he was economically disadvantaged and thus hates big business and rich people. Then I thought it was because he was an agnostic/atheist and was mad that McCain and Palin are somewhat religious. Now I can't figure it out. Can anyone explain this to me?

Maybe it has to do with WHAT he's reading and using for sources? If he just reads the hagiographies from the MSM, he could think he's well informed when he's not.

re: #130 Silhouette

Won't happen because they never really were anti-war. They just said they were.

The anti-war moonbats and the creepy cult of Obama worshippers are the same folks.

They were anti-war, but on when it was a Republican war. Now that there is a Proper Dem in charge war will once again become something fashionable, as long as National Security is distressed and lots of troops die.

They won't be happy until Phil Donahue is made Secretary of Peace... and probably not even then.

re: #132 buzzsawmonkey

... probable tropism for people who project an academic air

Thank you for explaining the NPR effect to me. It's all about style.

re: #135 karmic_inquisitor

Folks, the next round of financial crisis will be defaulting credit card debt. AXP is just the tip of the iceberg. When Americans start defaulting on their credit cards, the DOWn is really going to take a tumble. I thought the bottom might have been 8000, now I'm thiking it's going to be more like 6500 if not 6000.

I have compiled and translated all moonbat protest slogans. Essentially, they all translate to the same statement:

I HATE ME!

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

Stop what? Thinking? No way, I don't look good in orange.
/

Forgot my sarc tag/. I guess if it were a darker orange, it could be like a stop sign. No need to add anything else like thinking or whatever.

re: #111 unreconstructed rebel

And the meter works, too. ;)

I see it being chanted one day.

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

For those who didn't bother to check him out (including, most culpably, the MSM) Obama brings with him the allure of the unknown. Affable, charming, cool, calm, eloquent in delivering his lines, arraying himself against an unpopular Administration, Obama farts perfume.

re: #95 father_of_10

LOL!

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

fresh turd

Speaking of alarmist idiocy: If you are so inclined - listen in on Rosen Replay. Fascinating conversation with Christopher Horner about the global warming industry.

(10:00 AM Nov 12th)

Guest: Christopher C. Horner, author of, "Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud, and Deception to Keep You Misinformed."

psst - Newt - if you're out there - please listen too.

re: #143 Kenneth

I have compiled and translated all moonbat protest slogans. Essentially, they all translate to the same statement:

I HATE ME!

You're forgetting the other message:

"DADDY NEVER LOVED ME!"

re: #142 Jetpilot1101

AMEX made 815 million dollar profit in the 3rd quarter. Why do they need to be bailed out?

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

My only conclusion is that it's based on oratory ability alone. Obama is a good public speaker...neither Bush, nor McCain, had that ability.

re: #142 Jetpilot1101

Folks, the next round of financial crisis will be defaulting credit card debt. AXP is just the tip of the iceberg. When Americans start defaulting on their credit cards, the DOWn is really going to take a tumble. I thought the bottom might have been 8000, now I'm thiking it's going to be more like 6500 if not 6000.

Yep. Will probably lead to tighter/less credit available, which will tank out the retail industry and its suppliers. Not a pretty thought.

Now if, supposing for a moment, that Iraq and Afghanistan are over and done, will these guys stop protesting? No. The topic will change, probably back to being against "The Evil Capitalist Machine". They get their endorphins by being "edgy".

re: #65 Spenser (with an S)

On this topic (kind of), does someone here have a conservative argument or source they like to use re: the new term Fair Trade? I, of course, wouldn't want to buy from a sweatshop that misused children just to be Free Trade but I know there's more than that.

I'm no expert here, but I've been to Nepal. Any kid would love to have a job period.
Money in the pocket . . . yes!

Remember one country's sweatshop is another country's Top 10 Workplace.

The road to prosperity and progress begins with a first step. In this case it is with less than fantastic working conditions in the beginning, but a place with the hope and expectation of a better tomorrow.

re: #142 Jetpilot1101

Folks, the next round of financial crisis will be defaulting credit card debt. AXP is just the tip of the iceberg. When Americans start defaulting on their credit cards, the DOWn is really going to take a tumble. I thought the bottom might have been 8000, now I'm thiking it's going to be more like 6500 if not 6000.

Are you short? I've been long in defensive stocks but i am getting hammered. Thinking of going short - been afraid to since I though we had a bottom.

re: #132 buzzsawmonkey

re: #134 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #138 eschew_obfuscation

Thanks folks. He is an ardent follower of Hitchens so that might have had something to do with it but then again Charles enjoys Mr. Hitchens and Charles hasn't moonbatted.

Charles.

Nosub has the NYC vets parade up on her site. I suggest a compare/contrast photo thread.

re: #144 oneman

Careful...you're toeing the line...

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

He does his research by watching Chrissy and Overlord on MSNBC and by reading the NYT?

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Could be worse, a buddy of mine always sang the words as "Walk with an erection"

Yep. You just made it worse.

Now chili needs a bailout. The industry, not the country.

I just noticed that the STOP and START are ALL CAPS and italicized. Why aren't they BOLDED, too?

wow, GE is at a 22 year low

here are a couple of good articles on the economy:

[Link: www.jsmineset.com...]

[Link: www.jsmineset.com...]

re: #143 Kenneth

That's pretty good. I was going to add, "I HATE ME and aren't I so cool for doing that? And I hate you for not seeing how cool I am" but realized that both of my additions were just variations on the original theme.

re: #140 DougTheWriter

They won't be happy until Phil Donahue is made Secretary of Peace... and probably not even then.

* * *
Ugg, speaking of the US Institute for Peace, this organization got the last decent piece of land on the Washington Mall's western end (at 23rd Street, NW & Constitution Avenues), to build a gosh awful nouveau archictecture building, catty cornered from the US Vietnam Memorial on 20th Street, NW.

Who let this abomination get valuable land in line with the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC, to erect moonbat headquarters?

I saw it yesterday while honoring our Veterans on the Washington Mall.

re: #115 DeafDog

Yep. That's what they want. Thank God it's not gonna happen, if the Lizards are any indication.

re: #163 DeafDog

Yep. You just made it worse.

Then the day is mine!

re: #164 Rancher

Now chili needs a bailout. The industry, not the country.

That's okay, it's not worth beans.

re: #135 karmic_inquisitor

Just look at what Pelosi wants to do with another bailout she is so orgasmic about: pay off the UAW union obligations Congress shoved down the throats of the auto companies. Big Con begat Big Con and so on.

And now we have the wonderful phenomenon of state and city governments demanding for their portion of the bailout pie with no regard to what it will do the tax payers they so piously mouth they are trying to protect.

re: #153 dadog

AMEX made 815 million dollar profit in the 3rd quarter. Why do they need to be bailed out?

I think they see the writing on the wall. They just became a bank holding company which means they have access to the 700 billion. I don't know why they would do that unless management knew they were in trouble.

re: #154 DeafDog

My only conclusion is that it's based on oratory ability alone. Obama is a good public speaker...neither Bush, nor McCain, had that ability.

They both can speak off the cuff many times better than CBBHO.

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

Question for all you Lizards: I have a friend who claims to read and research more than most and I do believe him. So how come someone who seems to be rather educated not see through all the Obama rhetoric but rather thinks of him as a "breath of fresh air"?

I used to think it was because he was economically disadvantaged and thus hates big business and rich people. Then I thought it was because he was an agnostic/atheist and was mad that McCain and Palin are somewhat religious. Now I can't figure it out. Can anyone explain this to me?

What materials is he reading? Marx, Jung, Mao? Give him a book with a full copy of the US Constitution. Give him a copy of the Koran (put little sticky notes next to the really juicy parts.)

re: #165 MandyManners

I just noticed that the STOP and START are ALL CAPS and italicized. Why aren't they BOLDED, too?

And a few dozen "!" wouldn't go amiss

re: #33 Noam Chumpski

Obama's election only means that we will have much more of this stuff.

His election was their reward for their efforts.

correct

re: #166 sadhu

GE says they will be open to a bailout. This from the last American company to stop dealing with Iran.

re: #165 MandyManners

I just noticed that the STOP and START are ALL CAPS and italicized. Why aren't they BOLDED, too?

Perhaps a change of fonts as well. Wingdings perhaps

re: #158 karmic_inquisitor

Are you short? I've been long in defensive stocks but i am getting hammered. Thinking of going short - been afraid to since I though we had a bottom.

I'm not short. Quite honestly, I'm down a bundle because I was long. Right now, the investments are in gold, and a FDIC insured brokerage account. With the exception of a few speculative junior gold companies, I am hoarding cash. I want to be well positioned to pick up the pieces once the dust settled from the cranage I fear is about to ensue.

re: #164 Rancher

Now chili needs a bailout. The industry, not the country.

Saw that. The most closely held and tight lipped corner of agriculture wants a bailout, too. Maybe when they show they can make ethanol out of chile, they'll get a subsidy. Boo-Hoo

re: #154 DeafDog

My only conclusion is that it's based on oratory ability alone. Obama is a good public speaker...neither Bush, nor McCain, had that ability.

well, uh, um, as long as the teleprompter is working.

re: #174 buzzsawmonkey

I wonder whether a gym called "The Sweat Shop" would do well.

Certainly there is a catalog called "The Company Store" which seems to do all right, and "company store" is not a term that one would expect people to associate with anything pleasant or desirable.

Muscle and blood and skin and bones.

re: #177 Silhouette

And a few dozen "!" wouldn't go amiss

And, quadruple points if rendered in crayon.

re: #154 DeafDog

My only conclusion is that it's based on oratory ability alone. Obama is a good public speaker...neither Bush, nor McCain, had that ability.

Obama is only good when delivering prepared remarks. Extemporaneous and off the cuff and he stumbles worse than a peg-legged pirate trying to dance.

World Can’t Wait wore their now-standard Guantanamo prisoner uniforms

Now there's an idea I could get on board with.

American Express (down 9% today) has a lot of credit card debt that they turned around and financed in the market. Now, nobody is buying those bonds and at some point they will have to refinance that debt. To who? Lots of obligations coming due that they can't meet out of their capital reserves. I don't know how leveraged they are, but it's got to be a lot.

re: #172 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just look at what Pelosi wants to do with another bailout she is so orgasmic about: pay off the UAW union obligations Congress shoved down the throats of the auto companies. Big Con begat Big Con and so on.

And now we have the wonderful phenomenon of state and city governments demanding for their portion of the bailout pie with no regard to what it will do the tax payers they so piously mouth they are trying to protect.

Just remember - it is a moral wrong of absolutist proportions to layoff a public employee unless that employee is a soldier/marine/sailor. And do not ever think of touching their retirement benefits - they earned them by voting properly .
/

re: #179 buzzsawmonkey

You don't need bolded when you're braindead.

Who prints their stuff? Do they have printers on retainer?

re: #127 Jetpilot1101

It's not always how MUCH you read, but WHAT you read.
Someone who spends a lot of time reading and "researching" from ONLY left-wing sources can be more deluded than the average illiterate.

(This intellectual provincialism is usually a much bigger problem for those on the left. The "right" can't help hearing the other side since the media, academy, and entertainment industry promote it constantly.)

re: #166 sadhu

wow, GE is at a 22 year low

here are a couple of good articles on the economy:

[Link: www.jsmineset.com...]

[Link: www.jsmineset.com...]

Yeah, and now there's talk of an auto industry bail out, which is really an auto workers union bail out. The American auto industry has expenses that are approx 50% higher than the Japanese. That just can't continue if the industry is going to survive.

re: #173 Jetpilot1101

I think they see the writing on the wall. They just became a bank holding company which means they have access to the 700 billion. I don't know why they would do that unless management knew they were in trouble.

They started with imposing card limits (quite a while back)
Then they cut those limits to bare bones (over last few months)
Then they cut business credit line limits (over last few months)
Then the shut off many business credit lines (recently... this month)

Most commercial AMEX customers are not at all surprised by this. The funny thing is when they are pulling back, they blame the customer, lying about public liens, worsening customer credit ratings (ours got better, actually), rather than saying "in these troubled times we find it necessary to reduce our exposure"...

re: #133 Son of the Black Dog

That was cruel. (Though not necessarily unusual.)

re: #176 Eowyn2

What materials is he reading? Marx, Jung, Mao? Give him a book with a full copy of the US Constitution. Give him a copy of the Koran (put little sticky notes next to the really juicy parts.)

Part of me thinks he is just expressing himself (mostly in YouTube videos) as a way to get his anger and bitterness at Christianity out and Obama provided a good outlet to traditional religion. I don't know, it just scares me that people who claim to do so much research can't see the marxist ideaology that defines Obama.

re: #164 Rancher

Now chili needs a bailout. The industry, not the country.

I want a bailout.

re: #197 buzzsawmonkey

Wearing retainers, probably.

LOL!

re: #54 Sabnen

I think the original expression was "Act Assholely, Stink Locally"

really OT: The New Enterprise

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re: #197 buzzsawmonkey

Wearing retainers, probably.

That so describes the whole staff at a local Kinko's. Moonbat Central, whoo.

re: #182 Jetpilot1101

I'm not short. Quite honestly, I'm down a bundle because I was long. Right now, the investments are in gold, and a FDIC insured brokerage account. With the exception of a few speculative junior gold companies, I am hoarding cash. I want to be well positioned to pick up the pieces once the dust settled from the cranage I fear is about to ensue.

We went to cash about 1 year ago. Saw this coming. Our investment advisor last night said we were very smart (duh). The bottom is not in sight. Wait. The strong will survive and you can buy into good companies with good products for a steal.

re: #65 Spenser (with an S)

On this topic (kind of), does someone here have a conservative argument or source they like to use re: the new term Fair Trade? I, of course, wouldn't want to buy from a sweatshop that misused children just to be Free Trade but I know there's more than that.

Here's a good summary of the arguments:
[Link: ipezone.blogspot.com...]

re: #200 Eowyn2

I want a bailout.

Eat enough chili and that will take care of itself. And you will get musical accompaniment as well.

re: #200 Eowyn2

I want a bailout.

You do? It's actually very easy. Just follow these simple steps:

1. Start a company.
2. Leverage the crap out of it.
3. Mismanage the hell out of it.

and...

4. Donate plenty of money to both political parties.

re: #191 buzzsawmonkey

Back in the early 80's I learned that 60% of the chili crop went into other uses such as red dyes. Don't know what the percentage is now but I'm betting it's even higher.

I think I'll act like Mugabe. Give me everything you have or I'll beat the crap out of you.

Hope, change, and the tax and spend ways continue.

Obama's looking to take a page out of the Bloomberg playbook, and suggesting congestion pricing taxes on cars. That's a charge per mile, plus an additional tax on gas, and a higher tax on sales of motor vehicles.

Gee, you get the feeling they want to strangle the auto industry?

On the one hand, they're talking a bailout of the auto unions, and on the other, they're looking to impose even higher fees and taxes on those autos. Those higher charges will essentially kill demand, which will kill the suppliers and everyone who depends on the auto industry for business.

Bloody hell. Tried to post, get the hamster wheel again. LGF has been frustrating as hell today. So, repeating:

re: #188 Iron Fist

I am frankly stunned by the number of people I have heard blithely say things like "oh, I have $7000 in credit card debt, and I just make the minimum monthly payments".

If I have to pay for their stupidity, I will be very, very pissed off.

re: #196 Max Darkside

AXP is in trouble but I really think they are nothing more then the first to possibly go down (the Bear Sterns of the credit crunch).

I think the only people who will survive this without significant financial difficulty are those who have little to no revolving debt and live within their means. For those who have massive amounts of credit card debt, I really feel bad for them because when the credit is gone, they won't be able to buy anything.

re: #174 buzzsawmonkey

I wonder whether a gym called "The Sweat Shop" would do well.

Certainly there is a catalog called "The Company Store" which seems to do all right, and "company store" is not a term that one would expect people to associate with anything pleasant or desirable.

That would only be true if they had any idea what it means. RIP Tennessee Ernie Ford.

someone in the msm (sort of) finally says it:

"Obama's ability to stay on his feet and outrun the most menacing waves that threaten to engulf him seems to embody the breezy, sunny spirit of the American surfer. In the closing weeks of the election, however, I became increasingly disturbed by the mainstream media's avoidance of forthright dealing with several controversies that had been dogging Obama -- even as every flimsy rumor about Sarah Palin was being trumpeted as if it were engraved in stone on Mount Sinai. . . . Given that Obama had served on a Chicago board with Ayers and approved funding of a leftist educational project sponsored by Ayers, one might think that the unrepentant Ayers-Dohrn couple might be of some interest to the national media. But no, reporters have been too busy playing mini-badminton with every random spitball about Sarah Palin, who has been subjected to an atrocious and at times delusional level of defamation merely because she has the temerity to hold pro-life views."

-Camille Paglia

re: #206 jaunte

re: #65 Spenser (with an S)

On this topic (kind of), does someone here have a conservative argument or source they like to use re: the new term Fair Trade? I, of course, wouldn't want to buy from a sweatshop that misused children just to be Free Trade but I know there's more than that.

Here's a good summary of the arguments:
[Link: ipezone.blogspot.com...]

I knew this was the place! Now, did someone have a chili recipe?

re: #211 lawhawk

They want to bailout the unions, the industry they don't give a tinker's dam about.

re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans

That so describes the whole staff at a local Kinko's. Moonbat Central, whoo.

Getting rich off of Commie-pinko punks. What about the Anarchists?

re: #175 MandyManners

They both can speak off the cuff many times better than CBBHO.

I disagree.

Don't get me wrong. I like GWB and I appreciate what he's done - and what he tried to do - for the country. But he was very poor in describing, for example, the SS reform package or the need to do his initial energy policy or, for that matter, to explain why success in Iraq was important. Conversely, CBBHO has bat-shit stupid ideas on the role of govt. and these ideas are revealed when he speaks off the cuff (like the Joe the Plumber incident), but he says these bat-shit stupid ideas in clear statements - not mangled Bushese.

re: #205 Max Darkside

We went to cash about 1 year ago. Saw this coming. Our investment advisor last night said we were very smart (duh). The bottom is not in sight. Wait. The strong will survive and you can buy into good companies with good products for a steal.

Thing is that they are a steal right now. I have a variety of positions in growth companies with no debt, single digit P/Es, plenty of cash on hand and are just about recession proof and are trading for well under tangible book value and they are still taking hits.

It is irrational to say the least.

"Earth first! We'll protest the other planets later."

re: #176 Eowyn2

So how come someone who seems to be rather educated not see through all the Obama rhetoric but rather thinks of him as a "breath of fresh air"?

Simple. Convince him to put his TV down by the curb. He'll then have to stop listening to the commentary about the rhetoric and concentrate on the subject. He'll be cured in a week.

re: #220 karmic_inquisitor

Thing is that they are a steal right now. I have a variety of positions in growth companies with no debt, single digit P/Es, plenty of cash on hand and are just about recession proof and are trading for well under tangible book value and they are still taking hits.

It is irrational to say the least.

Consumer confidence is never rational.

re: #213 Jetpilot1101

For those who have massive amounts of credit card debt, I really feel bad for them because when the credit is gone, they won't be able to buy anything.

The only thing that may redeem them and hurt the cash hoarders is the back side of this storm... the ugly head of inflation. They will pay off those balances with worthless dollars and the cash hoarder will see their cache of cash become worthless. Play it right and you will do well. Play it wrong and you'll be broke.

I will say this, if the big 3 get a bailout, folks are going to be pissed. Pelosi's proposition is nothing but vote buying to ensure that the dems continue to get the union vote.

The only good news is that a bailout for Detroit will not work unless the unions are crushed. 25 Billion will keep them alive for a bit but it's not going to help. No one wants the crap they make. Sorry unions, you are about to go belly up and it's all YOUR fault!

re: #199 Jetpilot1101

Part of me thinks he is just expressing himself (mostly in YouTube videos) as a way to get his anger and bitterness at Christianity out and Obama provided a good outlet to traditional religion. I don't know, it just scares me that people who claim to do so much research can't see the marxist ideaology that defines Obama.

He's reading but he isnt researching. Big difference in the two. Research is digging into the how/why/wherefore. There are people who think "change" is always better. Four years from now, he may think that Kirk Cammeron should be president because it is 'new life'

If he has problems with organized religion then that is a whole nother can of worms. Even as a member of an organized Christian religion I have problems with some of the organiztion.

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

Retort: How about you START thinking like an American? Just a thought.

There you go. Short and to the point.

re: #221 logboy

Time to stop thinking like a provincial resident of this galaxy, and go universal!

Arrr, got side-tracked by Charles links to trolls. Some very interesting stuff into the mentality of some really nasty trolls. The trolls we see around LGF are relatively benign compared to these bastards. Real friendly folks who hack a Epilepsy web site and post wild video displays to trigger an epileptic seizure. Gordon was an angel compared to these guys. I miss Gordon...

re: #215 FrogMarch

someone in the msm (sort of) finally says it:

-Camille Paglia

"Obama's ability to stay on his feet and outrun the most menacing waves that threaten to engulf him seems to embody the breezy, sunny spirit of the American surfer. In the closing weeks of the election, however, I became increasingly disturbed by the mainstream media's avoidance of forthright dealing with several controversies that had been dogging Obama -- even as every flimsy rumor about Sarah Palin was being trumpeted as if it were engraved in stone on Mount Sinai. . . . Given that Obama had served on a Chicago board with Ayers and approved funding of a leftist educational project sponsored by Ayers, one might think that the unrepentant Ayers-Dohrn couple might be of some interest to the national media. But no, reporters have been too busy playing mini-badminton with every random spitball about Sarah Palin, who has been subjected to an atrocious and at times delusional level of defamation merely because she has the temerity to hold pro-life views."

I've had a love/hate relationship with Paglia. More love today.

re: #116 buzzsawmonkey

But that whole "Hey, hey, ho, ho" thing is so damned tired. I've been hearing it chanted at rallies now for 40 years. Whatever "new ideas" progressives may have, they sure are wanting in innovation in the protest department.

Exactly - like the practically eternal "What do we want? [blah blah!] - when do we want it? NOW!"

Boring ...

re: #198 wolfie

That was cruel. (Though not necessarily unusual.)

When my local paper (nowhere near Tennessee) has a quarter page article about the Tennessee football coach losing his job, you know it's gotta be REALLY BAD.

re: #207 FurryOldGuyJeans

Eat enough chili and that will take care of itself. And you will get musical accompaniment as well.

Coincidentally, I had chili for dinner last night. lots of jalipinos.

re: #228 jaunte

Time to stop thinking like a provincial resident of this galaxy, and go universal!

What about other dimensions? What are you? Some kind of bigot?

I think like a Dutchman. I doubt its much better than thinking like an American.

re: #185 MandyManners

Muscle and blood and skin and bones.

Is that anything like "Strength and muscle and Jungle Work"?

Credit card companies are jacking up interest rates on everyone, as is their right under the law. I have zero credit card debt, been there, done that. Paid off my last card, a Sears card that was charging me 20%, three or four years ago.

re: #225 Jetpilot1101

I will say this, if the big 3 get a bailout, folks are going to be pissed. Pelosi's proposition is nothing but vote buying to ensure that the dems continue to get the union vote.

The only good news is that a bailout for Detroit will not work unless the unions are crushed. 25 Billion will keep them alive for a bit but it's not going to help. No one wants the crap they make. Sorry unions, you are about to go belly up and it's all YOUR fault!

The big 3 need to go to bankruptcy court...and move out of Michigan.

re: #234 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I got a big bang out of that.

re: #233 Eowyn2

Coincidentally, I had chili for dinner last night. lots of jalipinos.

Gotta love them Yell-a-lot-painos. ;)

"Stop thinking like an American"?

F*ck no. I'm proud to be an American, thank you very much.

re: #225 Jetpilot1101

I will say this, if the big 3 get a bailout, folks are going to be pissed. Pelosi's proposition is nothing but vote buying to ensure that the dems continue to get the union vote.

The only good news is that a bailout for Detroit will not work unless the unions are crushed. 25 Billion will keep them alive for a bit but it's not going to help. No one wants the crap they make. Sorry unions, you are about to go belly up and it's all YOUR fault!

one bailout per election cycle.

re: #219 DeafDog

I disagree.

Don't get me wrong. I like GWB and I appreciate what he's done - and what he tried to do - for the country. But he was very poor in describing, for example, the SS reform package or the need to do his initial energy policy or, for that matter, to explain why success in Iraq was important. Conversely, CBBHO has bat-shit stupid ideas on the role of govt. and these ideas are revealed when he speaks off the cuff (like the Joe the Plumber incident), but he says these bat-shit stupid ideas in clear statements - not mangled Bushese.

I guess the memory foremost in my mind is of a few days after 9-11 when he had reporters in some room in the WH, and he was talking off-the-cuff while pacing up and down. Raw, powerful emotion and straight from the heart.

re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans

That so describes the whole staff at a local Kinko's. Moonbat Central, whoo.

Yeah, but at Kinko's the staff is wearing their retainers in their eyebrows.

re: #239 jaunte

I got a big bang out of that.

Had a nice ring to it

re: #233 Eowyn2

Coincidentally, I had chili for dinner last night. lots of jalipinos.

Cue "Ring of Fire" music.

re: #116 buzzsawmonkey

But that whole "Hey, hey, ho, ho" thing is so damned tired. I've been hearing it chanted at rallies now for 40 years. Whatever "new ideas" progressives may have, they sure are wanting in innovation in the protest department.

HEY HEY! HO HO! INSIPID CHANTS HAVE GOT TO GO!

re: #220 karmic_inquisitor

Thing is that they are a steal right now. I have a variety of positions in growth companies with no debt, single digit P/Es, plenty of cash on hand and are just about recession proof and are trading for well under tangible book value and they are still taking hits.

If you can, and if you are investing, and they are as good as they sound and have a good future, then ride it out and you'll be ok. Just don't watch them. Put them in a little mental box and stick the box in the closet of your mind, like a time capsule.

re: #142 Jetpilot1101

Folks, the next round of financial crisis will be defaulting credit card debt. AXP is just the tip of the iceberg. When Americans start defaulting on their credit cards, the DOWn is really going to take a tumble. I thought the bottom might have been 8000, now I'm thiking it's going to be more like 6500 if not 6000.

Argggh! Several years ago hubby and I made a concerted effort to eliminate all debt, except home mortgage. It was tough, we sweated, we "sacrificed," we ate a lot of rice and beans. We paid off all outstanding debt (about $8,000) and it took a good two years. I never even considered DEFAULTING. And I certainly don't want to consider bailing anyone out for doing so - you bought it, you pay for it! Why is that so hard to deal with?

re: #236 Occasional Reader

Is that anything like "Strength and muscle and Jungle Work"?

It's been years. Thanks for reminding me!

re: #238 DeafDog

The big 3 need to go to bankruptcy court...and move out of Michigan.

I 110% agree. I know it will suck for 250,000 people who lose their jobs but that is what capitalism does to failing companies and worthless unions. Sorry big 3, your time is at an end. GM will go the way of the Studebaker (well maybe Cuba will want to buy them).

re: #233 Eowyn2

Coincidentally, I had chili for dinner last night. lots of jalipinos.

Time to throw a roll into the freezer.

re: #236 Occasional Reader

Is that anything like "Strength and muscle and Jungle Work"?

You load 16 tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
St Peter dont ya call me cause I cant go
I owe my soul to the the company store.

re: #202 jwpaine

I'm sure my wife wouldn't let me put that bumper-sticker on the car!

re: #249 Russkilitlover

Argggh! Several years ago hubby and I made a concerted effort to eliminate all debt, except home mortgage. It was tough, we sweated, we "sacrificed," we ate a lot of rice and beans. We paid off all outstanding debt (about $8,000) and it took a good two years. I never even considered DEFAULTING. And I certainly don't want to consider bailing anyone out for doing so - you bought it, you pay for it! Why is that so hard to deal with?

Being responsible for one's actions is so old-fashioned. Why do what is right when Government can make everything for you.

Actually on topic:

Hard Times, But Big Wall Street Bonuses

The logic seems to be a desire to hold onto "top talent" for when things get better. Hmmm..

And who's upset? Yep, Barney Frank

A little late there aren't ya Barney?

OT: Obama Derangement Syndrome? DO NOT WANT!

re: #254 Eowyn2

You load 16 tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
St Peter dont ya call me cause I cant go
I owe my soul to the the company store.

re: #237 Rancher

Credit card companies are jacking up interest rates on everyone, as is their right under the law. I have zero credit card debt, been there, done that. Paid off my last card, a Sears card that was charging me 20%, three or four years ago.

Good. You have joined the "dead beats" like me. That is what CC companies now call people who don't carry balances - dead beats.

Ultimately the CC companies have little to fear because most are HQd in Delaware - home of the VP-Elect, who had no problem pushing through laws that basically allow for usury. Old Joe Biden - friend of the little guy.

re: #257 subsailor68

Retaining the talent that created the mess in the first place. Wow, the irony of that is just so immense.

re: #252 Jetpilot1101

Bankruptcy doesn't mean the company goes out of business, it just gives protection from creditors while they restructure the business.

I wonder what my moonbat sister-in-law and her husband (double income, one kid) are going to say when their taxes go through the roof?

Both are Obama supporters.

re: #249 Russkilitlover

Argggh! Several years ago hubby and I made a concerted effort to eliminate all debt, except home mortgage. It was tough, we sweated, we "sacrificed," we ate a lot of rice and beans. We paid off all outstanding debt (about $8,000) and it took a good two years. I never even considered DEFAULTING. And I certainly don't want to consider bailing anyone out for doing so - you bought it, you pay for it! Why is that so hard to deal with?

Ditto. I have spent the last several years carefully reducing outstanding debt. (With a lot of help from Quicken.) Just now, I feel totally screwed.

How soon before the left starts to implode from the unmet unrealistically high expectations of the ONE?

re: #254 Eowyn2

You load 16 tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
St Peter dont ya call me cause I cant go
I owe my soul to the the company store.

I saw St. Peter with a Chinese menu in his hand
walking through the streets of Soho in the rain
He was looking for a place called "Lee Ho Fook's"
gonna get a big dish of Beef Chow Mein

/just mixing up the genres a little

re: #261 FurryOldGuyJeans

Retaining the talent that created the mess in the first place. Wow, the irony of that is just so immense.

My thoughts exactly.

:-(

re: #235 superjan

I think like a Dutchman. I doubt its much better than thinking like an American.

I say screw it, I'll think like a Canadian from now on. Take Off, Eh! Hand me another beer you hoser!

re: #262 Rancher

Bankruptcy doesn't mean the company goes out of business, it just gives protection from creditors while they restructure the business.

Depends which Chapter they declare under. 11 gives them that right, 7, everyone's F&%#ed.