I get too hungry for dinner at eight.

So anyone else standing in line at midnight for WotLK? My wife is making me.

I like the theater, and never come late.

What is a WotLK?

Much more room in this thread.

Gotta S P R E A D out...

Hold on to your wallets folks, it's showtime.

Banks jacking up fees to record levels.

re: #1 debutaunt

Then you should eat at seven =)

re: #4 WriterMom

What is a WotLK?

Much more room in this thread.

Gotta S P R E A D out...

Wrath of the Lion King?

Has Disney gone too far?

re: #6 kayawanee

Then you should eat at seven =)

Why thank you!

Dear President Elect Obama: Paybacks are a B*tch

Gazillion Religious Groups Want BHO to Ban Torture

re: #4 WriterMom

What is a WotLK?

Wrath of the Lich King

Say what you want, but he's spot on:

Crazy Uncle nails it

re: #8 debutaunt

Why thank you!

Don't mention it! I aims to be helpful, I does!

The last member of the Jimi Hendrix Experience is no more.

Mitch Mitchell, the drummer for the Jimi Hendrix Experience, and longtime fixture in the music business, was found dead this morning in his Portland hotel room.

Mitchell, 61, apparently died of natural causes, the Multnomah County Medical Examiner said. Mitchell was found dead at appoximately 3 a.m. in his room at the Benson Hotel in downtown Portland.

re: #9 WriterMom

Dear President Elect Obama: Paybacks are a B*tch

Gazillion Religious Groups Want BHO to Ban Torture

No more public appearances by Michelle then?

I've never been a millionaire but I just know I'd be darling at it.
Dorothy Parker

re: #9 WriterMom

WSJ: Obama may retain Bush interrogation policies

When Bush did it, it was torture, when Obama does it, it's not torture.

We have always been at war with Eurasia...

re: #12 mfarmer1

Well, there's some nuance there

• Sound money - (Ron Paul wants to return to the disastrous gold standard for the dollar)

• A strong defense while avoiding all undeclared wars (That includes Iraq and Afghanistan )

• No nation-building and no policing the world (That means a nuclear Iran)

-He's as crazy as he's ever been.

Stock market obviously approves of socialism. New lows soon.

re: #12 mfarmer1

Say what you want, but he's spot on:

Crazy Uncle nails it

My rhetorical answer at the time was simple: Why should one be excluded from the Republican Party for believing and always voting for:

• Limited government power
• A balanced budget
• Personal liberty
• Strict adherence to the Constitution

All agreeable, and all necessary.

• Sound money

Nice idea, but we do not need a gold standard.

• A strong defense while avoiding all undeclared wars

A strong defense is good, but avoiding all undeclared wars is a little difficult in our times of Islamic/Jihadist terrorism.

• No nation-building and no policing the world

Again, difficult in our times. If the US does not maintain freedom of the seas, and take out idiots here and there, then the whole system collapses.

It is now Your text to link...RINO Season.

re: #15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Very good!

re: #17 Kenneth

WSJ: Obama may retain Bush interrogation policies

When Bush did it, it was torture, when Obama does it, it's not torture.

We have always been at war with Eurasia...

Torture? I agree though. To my knowledge it happened three times only and was water boarding, which although unpleasant I couldn't call torture when it is held up against those acts committed by our foes. I do wish those lefties could actually be a little more precise when they are slamming someone.

re: #15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ha ha!

re: #14 BakaRanger

The last member of the Jimi Hendrix Experience is no more.

Mitch Mitchell, the drummer for the Jimi Hendrix Experience, and longtime fixture in the music business, was found dead this morning in his Portland hotel room.

Mitchell, 61, apparently died of natural causes, the Multnomah County Medical Examiner said. Mitchell was found dead at appoximately 3 a.m. in his room at the Benson Hotel in downtown Portland.

Sort of sad, dying alone in a hotel room. I want to go out with loving arms wrapped around me mates...

Oh, well.
Has the Fairness Doctrine already been implemented? Can't get Hannity's show on usually link. Anyone else got a link?

re: #23 ploome hineni

gold 709$

wahhh

Why does that make you go "wahhh[etc.]"?

re: #22 newsjunkie_ky

It is now Your text to link...RINO Season.

Ouch, that's gonna hurt.

Ain't Just Whistling

re: #23 ploome hineni

gold 709$

wahhh

Me too. It's odd to see gold and the Dow going south at the same time.

re: #22 newsjunkie_ky

I think it would also be helpful to establish the DINO (Democrats in Name Only) portion of the Democratic Party...assuming Obama goes hard left and alienates the moderates, then those fleeing the Democrat Party can be called "Democrats in Name Only"...

re: #1 debutaunt

I get too hungry for dinner at eight.

tramp

re: #28 newsjunkie_ky

Oh, well.
Has the Fairness Doctrine already been implemented? Can't get Hannity's show on usually link. Anyone else got a link?

KABC

Global Warming Cooling Warning

Lena Horne sings The Lady Is A Tramp

(Noted near the bottom of the Google thread from yesterday, they did add a Coastie's cover. I don't know if that's available from them, but if not, I have a copy that Charles can use if he wants.)

Just saw Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council on Fox News, spouting off about what the GOP needs to do.

For those of you who pooh-poohed the idea that McCain's moderate pro-choice stance was a serious problem for these people, and a major reason why he picked Sarah Palin (to appease them), here's what Perkins had to say back on August 21st:

“If he were to change the party platform,” to account for exceptions such as rape, incest or risk to the mother’s life, “I think that would be political suicide,” Tony Perkins, the president of the conservative Family Research Council, told ABC News in May. “I think he would be aborting his own campaign because that is such a critical issue to so many Republican voters and the Republican brand is already in trouble.”

re: #32 debutaunt

Me too. It's odd to see gold and the Dow going south at the same time.

On the surface, this makes no sense. Unless we are looking at liquidation to cover margin calls.

How damn big was this house of card?

re: #34 Shug

hahahhahhahaa

re: #32 debutaunt

It's odd to see gold and the Dow going south at the same time.

The economic meltdown is world wide. Gold, oil, and the Markets are all headed in the same direction. Remember this when the Pailians start spouting off about the Gold Standard.

re: #19 buzzsawmonkey

Any time a movie preview has a choir intoning wordlessly in the background, that is a giveaway that the movie sucks big time.

It's a video game add-on.

re: #28 newsjunkie_ky

Oh, well.
Has the Fairness Doctrine already been implemented? Can't get Hannity's show on usually link. Anyone else got a link?

Calm down mate, Fairness doctrine cannot be implemented until a couple of more FCC commissioners are appointed by the socialists. Give it six months and then a huge amount of litigation will occur. To apply the doctrine only to AM radio is disgrace to to journalism.

re: #42 Killgore Trout

The economic meltdown is world wide. Gold, oil, and the Markets are all headed in the same direction. Remember this when the Pailians start spouting off about the Gold Standard.

Um, what Gold Standard?

re: #42 Killgore Trout

The economic meltdown is world wide. Gold, oil, and the Markets are all headed in the same direction. Remember this when the Pailians start spouting off about the Gold Standard.

Damned bucket-worshippers.

/

re: #19 buzzsawmonkey

Any time a movie preview has a choir intoning wordlessly in the background, that is a giveaway that the movie sucks big time.

Its not a movie

re: #45 FurryOldGuyJeans

Um, what Gold Standard?

Bring it back! Hurry!

re: #43 OldLineTexan

It's a video game add-on.

Even worse.

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Perhaps this is a sign of actual progress, as the toxic load of nonexistent wealth runs its course.

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

Well, that lets me out.

Who let da monkey out?
woof woof woof?

re: #50 FurryOldGuyJeans

Even worse.

I dunno, World of Warcraft made for one of the best South Park episodes ever.

re: #1 debutaunt

I get too hungry for dinner at eight.

Ha ha.

I think the "Gold Standard" is too pretentious. What about the Corrugated Aluminum Standard? You can't go wrong with corrugated aluminum!

re: #33 J.S.

I think it would also be helpful to establish the DINO (Democrats in Name Only) portion of the Democratic Party...assuming Obama goes hard left and alienates the moderates, then those fleeing the Democrat Party can be called "Democrats in Name Only"...

Are they known as 'Blue Dog Democrats'. I hear that all the time when moderate/conservative dems are talked about.

re: #36 Kenneth

They have no idea what the climate is going to be 10,000 years from now, let alone 50. Or 5. The models aren't nearly as sophisticated as they want people to believe, the data isn't complete (or corrupted in some cases), and it's possible that scientists aren't even asking the right questions about climate change, to say nothing of the effects of that great fiery orb in the sky.

Then, there's the blatant nonsense proffered by the likes of Hansen who says temps are up in October, but that's based on using September data for most of it's Russian reporting.

It's all part of the climate fudge factor.

re: #52 OldLineTexan

Who let da monkey out?
woof woof woof?

Would you quit spanking the monkey! ;)

re: #3 debutaunt

I love parts of California. Cold and damp, hot and dry - it doesn't matter.

*Local socialist moonbats have papered EVERYTHING here today.Seems they have a ''convention'' at UCLA early in Dec.

*Also the Egyptian MD who tried to help a Saudi woman and got a 7-year/700 lash sentence for it appealed.
Now it is 15 years/1,500 lashes!
I wonder if that's even survivable?

re: #55 ploome hineni

cause I like it when gold is high
:D

1,000 was pleasant.

re: #53 OldLineTexan

I dunno, World of Warcraft made for one of the best South Park episodes ever.

Hello Kitty Adventure Island was cooler.

re: #35 redstateredneck

Thanks.

re: #45 FurryOldGuyJeans

The Gold Standard and the Great Depression

re: #56 Occasional Reader

I think the "Gold Standard" is too pretentious. What about the Corrugated Aluminum Standard? You can't go wrong with corrugated aluminum!

You could cut yourself.

Last update - 22:23 12/11/2008

Carter: Obama will waste no time pursuing Middle East peace

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee, all of a sudden Carter, Farrakhan, and Wright all resurface. Will miracles never cease?

OK, since B.Hussein.O was elected, the DJones Average is down 14%.
NASDAQ Composite down 8.5%, S&P down 8.5%, and on and on.

The market (S&P) climbed nicely from its 10/27 bottom in the week before the
election, reaching a high on Nov. 4th. Now it is right back down there.

Looks like everyone is betting on the downside. Long term trends about
to be broken.

Good luck all.

re: #39 Charles

McCain's voting record has been quite consistently pro-life for years and years. If Perkins and Co. are calling him "pro-choice," they are ignorant.

re: #60 artdog

I love parts of California. Cold and damp, hot and dry - it doesn't matter.

I'd bother with you.

Gee, #67, I wonder what they mean by peace?

re: #58 lawhawk

More people need to know that this is rubbish.

The left might as well have a weather machine.

re: #64 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks.

I had to go back and see what I did that you were thanking me for!
/a mind is a terrible thing to waste

re: #66 debutaunt

Magnesium.

re: #25 Outrider

I do wish those lefties could actually be a little more precise when they are slamming someone's fingers in a drawer.

re: #65 Killgore Trout

The Gold Standard and the Great Depression

Unless you are saying we need to get back onto a gold standard I really don't see any point you are attempting to make. The only value the Dollar has is the faith and confidence people put into the currency.

re: #69 wolfie

McCain's voting record has been quite consistently pro-life for years and years. If Perkins and Co. are calling him "pro-choice," they are ignorant.

It's not just Perkins, he was blasted by all the evangelicals for wanting exceptions for rape, incest, and the mother's health.

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hello Kitty Adventure Island was cooler.

Butters is funny, no doubt about that.

/lu lu lu I got some apples

Dow -398.96 (-4.59%)

Good times, good times.

re: #56 Occasional Reader

I think the "Gold Standard" is too pretentious. What about the Corrugated Aluminum Standard? You can't go wrong with corrugated aluminum!

Or maybe the Drywall Standard. Oh wait - that's paper based. Guess we're already on it. That's our currency: Good as drywall.

re: #72 Bumr50

More people need to know that this is rubbish.

The left might as well have a weather machine.

Do they get Bush's hurricane machine when he leaves office?

BBL mates, and for Charles; I read the articles on how to eliminate trolls and for your purposes, charging a 20 dollar yearly user fee would probably eliminate them all. On a personal level I really enjoy beating trolls over the head with the virtual 2 by 4, but reading the linked articles opened my eyes to some really evil and amoral trolls that infest the net. Your call Charles!

re: #67 Nevergiveup

You can't have peace unless both parties to the conflict want it.

Israel does - and their leaders will bend over backwards, jump through hoops, etc., to get a deal done.

The terrorists? Not so much, though they too enjoy jumping through flaming hoops as part of their terror training.

re: #74 Bumr50

Magnesium.

That's got some nice flare.

re: #28 newsjunkie_ky

Oh, well.
Has the Fairness Doctrine already been implemented? Can't get Hannity's show on usually link. Anyone else got a link?

* * *
Have they rounded up the usual suspects yet? Sent them to the gulag?

Making safe the way for glorious peoples' revolution!

re: #82 LoFlyer

Charging any money only means you get government financed trolls. ;)

Wednesday Afternoon's hours are so inconvenient. They're never open on Sundays, either.

re: #5 CyanSnowHawk

Hold on to your wallets folks, it's showtime.

Banks jacking up fees to record levels.

Now is the time to give banks the finger and go on a cash basis. Honestly, are we surprised that the credit bubble finally burst after how many decades of the "you can have it now" mentality.

re: #78 OldLineTexan

Butters is funny, no doubt about that.

/lu lu lu I got some apples

Best Butters moment:

"Butters, warn the girls."

"Just walk away! Nobody has to die! Walk away now and no one dies!"

"Damn Butters, you do that good!"

re: #56 Occasional Reader

I think the "Gold Standard" is too pretentious. What about the Corrugated Aluminum Standard? You can't go wrong with corrugated aluminum!

* * *
Say Ah-lu-min-i-um, that's tonier sounding.

re: #88 calcajun

Now is the time to give banks the finger and go on a cash basis. Honestly, are we surprised that the credit bubble finally burst after how many decades of the "you can have it now" mentality.

It continues. I still get invitations to take out a new card.

re: #88 calcajun

Now is the time to give banks the finger and go on a cash basis.

Right, let's crash our banking sector, that'll really help the country a lot.

/

OT
Anyone know of a good way to get a user's local time (i.e. the time that shows up on their computer) with php, mysql. Must I use javascript?

re: #9 WriterMom

Dear President Elect Obama: Paybacks are a B*tch

Gazillion Religious Groups Want BHO to Ban Torture

Including taxes? Please! :->

re: #66 debutaunt

You could cut yourself.

OK, what about the aluminum foil standard?

re: #70 debutaunt

Aren't the Ella and Frank versions a little different? I'm more familiar with Ella's.

re: #88 calcajun

Now is the time to give banks the finger and go on a cash basis. Honestly, are we surprised that the credit bubble finally burst after how many decades of the "you can have it now" mentality.

I have noticed a lot of "old" bills come into my business. Old 5's and 20's. I think people are pulling money out from under the bed.

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

Who are you siding with?

Fiber Standard?

re: #97 artdog

Aren't the Ella and Frank versions a little different? I'm more familiar with Ella's.

Frank's is the gold standard.

re: #57 newsjunkie_ky

Yes, I guess you're correct...about those "Blue Dog Democrats" (DINO as in dinosaurs, probably just doesn't have the same ring to it.)

re: #90 alegrias

* * *
Say Ah-lu-min-i-um, that's tonier sounding.

I can't wait to point out to the next Brit who "corrects" me on that, that "aluminum" is actually the original name given to the metal by its (British) discoverer.

Dow -400

re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans

The gold standard was one of the main reason for the Great depression. I would not recommend returning to it.

re: #39 Charles

Just saw Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council on Fox News, spouting off about what the GOP needs to do.

For those of you who pooh-poohed the idea that McCain's moderate pro-choice stance was a serious problem for these people, and a major reason why he picked Sarah Palin (to appease them), here's what Perkins had to say back on August 21st:

Ummm...Charles, IIRC I believe McCain is Pro-Life, not Pro-Choice. He may make certain exceptions for rape & incest, but I think he is opposed to so-called "abortion on demand".

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

Who are you siding with?

It would help weatherproof us against financial crises!

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Well, there's some nuance there

• Sound money - (Ron Paul wants to return to the disastrous gold standard for the dollar)

• A strong defense while avoiding all undeclared wars (That includes Iraq and Afghanistan )

• No nation-building and no policing the world (That means a nuclear Iran)

-He's as crazy as he's ever been.

I've never understood the whole 'gold standard' thing. If we put ourselves on the 'gold standard' and an ounce of gold is worth $800, it seems to me that any time the government wants to, it can print more money raising the price of gold to, say, $805/ounce. How is that any kind of limit on anything? And every time a bank makes a loan, money is created...again, the price of gold increases.

I'm probably just terribly confused...where's 3 Wood anyway?

re: #93 bosforus

OT
Anyone know of a good way to get a user's local time (i.e. the time that shows up on their computer) with php, mysql. Must I use javascript?

Javascript is the only way to get a reasonably reliable local time.

re: #80 Pullus Iulius

Or maybe the Drywall Standard. Oh wait - that's paper based. Guess we're already on it. That's our currency: Good as drywall.

The Depleted Uranium Standard sounds good, for foreign exchange. Or maybe the Tin Standard. You don't hear much about tin these days. And that's a shame, really.

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

Too bad you can't cash those silver certificates in for silver any more.

That would be great.

Wow what a freaky marketplace - to think that Metlife & Prudential could go down the tubes in this mess.

At least Metlife & Prudential deserve it.

re: #90 alegrias

Say Ah-lu-min-i-um, that's tonier sounding.

No. Do we look like we're British?

re: #103 Occasional Reader

I can't wait to point out to the next Brit who "corrects" me on that, that "aluminum" is actually the original name given to the metal by its (British) discoverer.

* * *
Por que no te callas! You know Spanish speakers say aluminio! It was bery hard to break the habit in English.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

The gold standard was one of the main reason for the Great depression. I would not recommend returning to it.

But the small picture involves the gold I am holding.

re: #106 kayawanee

Ummm...Charles, IIRC I believe McCain is Pro-Life, not Pro-Choice. He may make certain exceptions for rape & incest, but I think he is opposed to so-called "abortion on demand".

To Perkins and his crew, anything except a 100% hardline stance is "pro-choice." Of course, they wouldn't call it that.

re: #108 eschew_obfuscation

I've never understood the whole 'gold standard' thing. If we put ourselves on the 'gold standard' and an ounce of gold is worth $800, it seems to me that any time the government wants to, it can print more money raising the price of gold to, say, $805/ounce. How is that any kind of limit on anything? And every time a bank makes a loan, money is created...again, the price of gold increases.

I'm probably just terribly confused...where's 3 Wood anyway?

Printing money makes it worth less.

re: #101 debutaunt

Keeping up with two different thread themes! :)

I saw Ella at the Hollywood Bowl many years ago --still a very memorable concert. She was great.

BTW -- the Hollywood Bowl parking lot is a part of California that I hate!

My plan to fix the economy:

1. Hold govt spending flat for 2 years (no increases)
2. Cut long term capital gains tax to 0-10% for securities purchased after today, or purchased previously but held more than one year after today.
3. Reduce corporate income tax rate by 25-50%.
4. Reduce personal income tax rates 10-20% across the board.

And to make this work faster, the Feds need to lower the payroll withholding requirements immediately. That could start putting extra money in people's pockets within days. I've not heard anyone suggest this yet.

Isn't it economic orthodoxy to cut taxes going into a recession? Why isn't this being done now? Congress's idiotic stimulus plans aren't working...

re: #105 Killgore Trout

The gold standard was one of the main reason for the Great depression. I would not recommend returning to it.

When I read the article you posted earlier, I get a different POV. My understanding is that the depression was exacerbated by banking policy, not the standard itself.

The key benefit of a gold standard is that government cannot control the supply of money.

Wonder when the first serious call to legalize MJ as a way to generate revenue will occur, and how far it will get. I'd be happy to contribute to deficit reduction; it is the conservative thing to do.

re: #112 akak

Wow what a freaky marketplace - to think that Metlife & Prudential could go down the tubes in this mess.

At least Metlife & Prudential deserve it.

Please don't. I have two children with MetLife annuities.

Just opened a fortune cookie. Says:

This is the prosperous time of your life.

Boy am I screwed.

re: #108 eschew_obfuscation

I'm probably just terribly confused...where's 3 Wood anyway?

It's very complicated but the gold standard is easy to understand when compared to our current Monetary system. The federal reserve is mind boggling.

re: #123 karmic_inquisitor

Just opened a fortune cookie. Says:

Boy am I screwed.

All fortune cookie fortunes are meant to be read aloud with the phrase "in bed" tacked on to the end.

So much bah humbug--How about buying "An American Carol" as holiday gifts? Help a friendly film director, cheer up friends and family as we go into a crachety economy? Wouldn't that be showing some fighting spirit?

re: #118 artdog

Keeping up with two different thread themes! :)

I saw Ella at the Hollywood Bowl many years ago --still a very memorable concert. She was great.

BTW -- the Hollywood Bowl parking lot is a part of California that I hate!

She was terrific. You should limo to the Bowl and avoid the rush, silly!

Good afternoon, lizards :).

I'm in a good mood, it's pub night.
How's everyone?

re: #129 Irish Rose

Good afternoon, lizards :).

I'm in a good mood, it's pub night.
How's everyone?

Jealous, now.

/

With the market in freefall, the economy in a state of siezure, BHO 's miraculous powers will be put to the test early. If I were Bush, I would tell him that "I am just a lame duck, you are on your own son." "Time to make use of all that lofty rhetoric. More bail-outs? No, I am afraid you will have to orchestrate that with your cohorts." I hear Nancy has some idea about what to do.

re: #77 Charles

It's not just Perkins, he was blasted by all the evangelicals for wanting exceptions for rape, incest, and the mother's health.

I oppose abortion (on non-religious grounds), but anyone who wants to force a rape victim to have the rapist's baby is sick.

re: #131 wright1

With the market in freefall, the economy in a state of siezure, BHO 's miraculous powers will be put to the test early. If I were Bush, I would tell him that "I am just a lame duck, you are on your own son." "Time to make use of all that lofty rhetoric. More bail-outs? No, I am afraid you will have to orchestrate that with your cohorts." I hear Nancy has some idea about what to do.

Nancy has an idea?

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

He's just being a foil. Or on a roll.

re: #131 wright1

With the market in freefall, the economy in a state of siezure, BHO 's miraculous powers will be put to the test early. If I were Bush, I would tell him that "I am just a lame duck, you are on your own son." "Time to make use of all that lofty rhetoric. More bail-outs? No, I am afraid you will have to orchestrate that with your cohorts." I hear Nancy has some idea about what to do.

Remember when the entire lower end of the FedGov was issued K cars?

LOL.

re: #130 OldLineTexan

Jealous, now.

/

Well then, jump on a plane and fly on up, Tex.
Session starts at 7pm and runs till 10.

I'll buy ya a pint ;).

re: #92 Occasional Reader

Right, let's crash our banking sector, that'll really help the country a lot.

/

* * *
You laughed when I told you to check out Reader's Digests' great book, "Traditional American Crafts"--like making your own currency!

Hope not to find you on the street corners of DC asking whether I can spare any change!

Dubai hotel issues etiquette guide after sex on the beach scandal

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Well, I don't know about all you other lizards, but I'm cancelling my reservation ASAP?

re: #136 Irish Rose

Well then, jump on a plane and fly on up, Tex.
Session starts at 7pm and runs till 10.

I'll buy ya a pint ;).

I could probably get there in oh, 12-14 hours.

/I may be late, don't wait up

But thanks! And the same offer to you, next time you're in Houston.

re: #116 Charles

The Catholic Church teaches the same thing. No abortion. Period.

I am not sure what is the Catholic-evangelical percentage of the electorate but it is a pretty big number. Although Catholics are not single issue voters.

re: #116 Charles

To Perkins and his crew, anything except a 100% hardline stance is "pro-choice." Of course, they wouldn't call it that.

No - they call that moral and all those who disagree as amoral.

It is also important to note that these are the same folks who throw around the term RINO when describing the very small minority (in their minds) of Republicans who do not see things their way. Yet they will have no problem with seeing all fiscal discipline lost as long as the moral purity of the party is maintained.

I am sick of it.

If we hit a depression, watch abortion rates soar. And they would soar anyways even if every kind of abortion were banned because abortions were performed long before they were legal. I am a Catholic and am pro life (though I wouldn't pass this guy's purity test), and I am damned tired of this tail wagging the whole dog.

re: #131 wright1

With the market in freefall, the economy in a state of siezure, BHO 's miraculous powers will be put to the test early. If I were Bush, I would tell him that "I am just a lame duck, you are on your own son." "Time to make use of all that lofty rhetoric. More bail-outs? No, I am afraid you will have to orchestrate that with your cohorts." I hear Nancy has some idea about what to do.

Excellent!

re: #117 debutaunt

Printing money makes it worth less.

Of course...that's exactly why the gold becomes more expensive..

re: #77 Charles

It's not just Perkins, he was blasted by all the evangelicals for wanting exceptions for rape, incest, and the mother's health.

Argh. I know it's been 30 + years, but can we all educate ourselves a bit on the impact of Roe v Wade and the most recent substantive erosion of the case; Casey v Planned Parenthood. Roe v Wade is a horrible decision--not for the morality issue, but because the SCOTUS took on the role it was never meant to have-- that of a super-legislature. it went far beyond the concept of judicial review--a role which the court created for itself and is now a legal reality. Whenever the Court engages in social engineering, it's always a bad result for the rest of us.

As you know by now, I am a social conservative. I am also a pragmatist. There are ways in which GOP contenders can get around the issue of pro-choice/ pro-life, starting with explaining to the electorate what would happen if the SCOTUS reversed Roe. The right to choose and the right to privacy would remain untouched. All that would happen is that the power to decided when the interest of the state in the life of the unborn supersedes the rights of the mother would be left to the states to decide. The federal government/Congress could not touch it because of the 10th Amendment (yes, it is still valid). The candidate would take a "Federalist" position and say he is in favor of letting a state's population determine the issue--not a court. This would do away with the whole pro-choice/life schism within the GOP.

re: #133 unreconstructed rebel

Major sarcasm...

re: #120 unreconstructed rebel

When I read the article you posted earlier, I get a different POV. My understanding is that the depression was exacerbated by banking policy, not the standard itself.

The key benefit of a gold standard is that government cannot control the supply of money.

Doesn't that take away one of the tools that a government can use to control the economy? As I understand it, that leaves the economy more susceptible to the vagaries of other, less easily controlled, aspects.

re: #108 eschew_obfuscation

I've never understood the whole 'gold standard' thing. If we put ourselves on the 'gold standard' and an ounce of gold is worth $800, it seems to me that any time the government wants to, it can print more money raising the price of gold to, say, $805/ounce. How is that any kind of limit on anything? And every time a bank makes a loan, money is created...again, the price of gold increases.

I'm probably just terribly confused...where's 3 Wood anyway?

On the 100% gold standard or silver standard a government can only produce as much money as the gold or silver held in reserve. The Fed got away from that ideal and started printing more money than the US had gold.

re: #92 Occasional Reader

Right, let's crash our banking sector, that'll really help the country a lot.

/

I think the boat's sailed on that one, Sparky.///

re: #143 eschew_obfuscation

Of course...that's exactly why the gold becomes more expensive..

That's my clever plan!

re: #140 experiencedtraveller

The Catholic Church teaches the same thing. No abortion. Period.

I am not sure what is the Catholic-evangelical percentage of the electorate but it is a pretty big number. Although Catholics are not single issue voters.

Thing is most Catholics you talk to don't subscribe to that strict of a teaching.

You also aren't supposed to use contraception. Got me there - I am going straight to hell.

re: #147 FurryOldGuyJeans

On the 100% gold standard or silver standard a government can only produce as much money as the gold or silver held in reserve. The Fed got away from that ideal and started printing more money than the US had gold.

In other words, the thing that keeps our economy up is the same that keeps Tinkerbell flying--we keep believing in it.

re: #20 experiencedtraveller

Stock market obviously approves of socialism. New lows soon.

A federal employee I know told me that Obama-supporting co-workers were taunting him on election day, suggesting that the market loved their guy. It's been a steady nose dive ever since his election. I imagine the Obamabots aren't bringing it up at work anymore, but I'll bet my friend is.

re: #81 OldLineTexan

Do they get Bush's hurricane machine when he leaves office?

As long as there are never any hurricanes that start with the letter 'O'

Well, I like to sew as a hobby. It seems like this will come in handy for awhile and I can share the fruits of my hobby with my sisters and my nieces.

It's good to think about ways to save money.

re: #154 tfc3rid

As long as there are never any hurricanes that start with the letter 'O'

Perkins! Cancel Hurrican Oprah, Obama won!

re: #147 FurryOldGuyJeans

On the 100% gold standard or silver standard a government can only produce as much money as the gold or silver held in reserve. The Fed got away from that ideal and started printing more money than the US had gold.

Now that, I can be my head around ;-)

Same old same old.

re: #150 karmic_inquisitor

Very few Catholics adhere to the Vatican's rulings...
New Harris Poll Finds Different Religious Groups Have Very Different Attitudes to Some Health Policies and Programs

overwhelming majorities of Catholics favor contraception (90%), condom use to prevent HIV and STD infections (93%), the funding of international birth control programs (66%), embryonic stem cell research (70%) and the withdrawal of life support for those in a vegetative state (68%). A majority (56%) also supports abortion rights.

re: #109 Charles

Javascript is the only way to get a reasonably reliable local time.

Rats! But thank you!

re: #120 unreconstructed rebel

When I read the article you posted earlier, I get a different POV. My understanding is that the depression was exacerbated by banking policy, not the standard itself.

The key benefit of a gold standard is that government cannot control the supply of money.

I saw the same thing you did. Government intervention is what did it. Look at the bottom of the page KT linked to see what I mean.

re: #156 Adina in Judea

Well, I like to sew as a hobby. It seems like this will come in handy for awhile and I can share the fruits of my hobby with my sisters and my nieces.

It's good to think about ways to save money.

* * *
We still have wonderful hand made wool & cotton baby sweaters aunts made for our family. They were sturdy things of beauty & sentimental value. Great hand-me-downs, which you cannot say of Chinese crapola.

Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Good Show!

re: #155 Iron Fist

But the Left would never allow that because some states might prohibit them cutting off the baby's head while it is being born. The pro-abort crowd are every bit as extreme in their direction as any on the Right.

Oh, I know. But, look at what happens when the states themselves are left to determine these things. Thirty states oppose same sex marriages (while most if not all have civil union statutes--go figure). Abortion will still be legal in all 50 states--it's only at what point during gestation will it be prohibited is the question.

re: #151 calcajun

In other words, the thing that keeps our economy up is the same that keeps Tinkerbell flying--we keep believing in it.

In a nutshell, yeah. Our money has value because we believe it does. Why do you think the emphasis on Consumer Confidence?

re: #160 Killgore Trout

A majority (56%) also supports abortion rights.

Correct, but not late term and not plentiful. The majority would like to see it legal, safe and RARE!

The credit crisis contributed to the temporary demise of the Republican party. Ironically, it will be the very same credit crisis that will cause the resurrection of the Republican party to rise from the ashes. And the best part, the minority party hardly needs to be obstructionist - just stick to their guns on fiscal responsibility. The song "Burning Down the House" comes to mind when I envision what the Dems are about to do...

re: #156 Adina in Judea

Well, I like to sew as a hobby. It seems like this will come in handy for awhile and I can share the fruits of my hobby with my sisters and my nieces.

It's good to think about ways to save money.

reminds me of the Rodney Dangerfield line in Easy Money..

wife: you know what I do to relax Monty? I knit.
Monty(Rodney): yeah, maybe I can knit myself a beer...

re: #164 Maximu§

Royal Navy in firefight with Somali pirates

Good Show!

What, the RN hasn't surrendered yet? I am given to understand that, as of late, the RN's rules of engagement are, basically, "Not in the face!"

Congratulations and hearty thanks to anyone having or starting a family. You are the best optimists among us.

Dow closed down 411 points. I thought everything was going to be happiness and light if we elected the "One"? Where is my happiness and light? Are the oceans at least receding? What about the ozone hole; its healed itself since last Tuesday right? My car needs gas, it will refill on its own right?

/(Not sure if this is sacarasm, Irony or just general snarkiness)

Today is my Baby's Birthday. She is now 30, I no longer trust her.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

The gold standard was one of the main reason for the Great depression. I would not recommend returning to it.

The worst thing we could do is try to go back to specie money.

When you do that, you lose the ability to conduct monetary policy, and you allow foreign governments to play with your economy by buying their gold or whatever other substance you tie your currency to.

Also, there is not enough gold in the world to cover the US money supply.

re: #77 Charles

IIRC, and my recollection these days is never too sharp, it was the mother's life, which is a much stricter criterion than "the mother's health."

In any event, and regardless of what he may or may not have sought to put in the platform, to call McCain himself "pro-choice" is stupid. With the sole exception of the embryonic stem cell issue, where he wanted safeguards but not a total prohibition, his votes have been solidly pro-life.

BTW, the Catholic Church speaks with one voice, even if Catholics as a group of individuals do not. In the case of the evangelicals, they do not even have one voice on the ecclesiaistical level. To speak, then, of "all the evangelicals" can be misleading.

So, America gets dragged kicking and screaming into a $700 billion bailout after weeks of explaining how it's going to work, buy the toxic derivatives.

/and then today it's nevermind, Plan B, we'll get back to you when we come up with one, meanwhile, Obama's not inspiring confidence either by not immediately naming a palatable Treasury Secretary

re: #167 sattv4u2

A majority (56%) also supports abortion rights.

Correct, but not late term and not plentiful. The majority would like to see it legal, safe and RARE!

There is also a HUGE difference between supporting abortion and supporting abortion rights.

re: #44 LoFlyer

Calm down mate, Fairness doctrine cannot be implemented until a couple of more FCC commissioners are appointed by the socialists. Give it six months and then a huge amount of litigation will occur. To apply the doctrine only to AM radio is disgrace to to journalism.

The new administration appears to be applying it already, but only to FoxNews. So far.

re: #171 alegrias

Congratulations and hearty thanks to anyone having or starting a family. You are the best optimists among us.

No thanks necessary. We're just keeping the American end up.///

Woman killed by husband's coffin

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Excuse me while I go rewrite my will.

re: #160 Killgore Trout

Very few Catholics adhere to the Vatican's rulings...
New Harris Poll Finds Different Religious Groups Have Very Different Attitudes to Some Health Policies and Programs

Hey - stop that with the numbers! Pure morality ignores polls! The righteous will win elections by God's grace! Americans are just waiting for a morally pure candidate who advocates strict moral law to run so that we may elect him in a Tsunami of moral redemption!

It works in Iran and it can work here too!

/

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

Now if we went onto the Acapulco Gold standard, the economy would be ridin' high.

he he. I thought Columbian Gold standard was the way to go.

re: #119 KingKenrod

My plan to fix the economy:

1. Hold govt spending flat for 2 years (no increases)
2. Cut long term capital gains tax to 0-10% for securities purchased after today, or purchased previously but held more than one year after today.
3. Reduce corporate income tax rate by 25-50%.
4. Reduce personal income tax rates 10-20% across the board.

And to make this work faster, the Feds need to lower the payroll withholding requirements immediately. That could start putting extra money in people's pockets within days. I've not heard anyone suggest this yet.

Isn't it economic orthodoxy to cut taxes going into a recession? Why isn't this being done now? Congress's idiotic stimulus plans aren't working...

I like it! Reward productive behavior! Encourage risk taking. Allow stupidity to go unnoticed!

Unfortunately, the economic stimulous plans (not to mention our incoming POTUS) have the opposite philosophy - penalize productive behavior and subsidize stupidity.

re: #172 fish

Dow closed down 411 points. I thought everything was going to be happiness and light if we elected the "One"? Where is my happiness and light? Are the oceans at least receding? What about the ozone hole; its healed itself since last Tuesday right? My car needs gas, it will refill on its own right?

/(Not sure if this is sacarasm, Irony or just general snarkiness)

Whatever it is, I hear ya.

Of course, I could have an entirely wrong idea about what the Fairness Doctrine really means.
/

Discrimination Against Dogs: Black Dog Syndrome

It’s called “black dog syndrome”. Many loving dogs in need of good homes are being overlooked, under appreciated, and under adopted at shelters nationwide, and they all share one thing in common: their black coats.

re: #167 sattv4u2

Yup.

Oddly the phrase used by Clinton. Dems outflank us once again.

re: #146 CyanSnowHawk

one of the tools that a government can use to control the economy

One of the reasons we went on the Gold Standard (BTW, Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution prohibits states from "mak[ing] any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts") is because the original Continental Congress attempted to [mis]control the economy by printing worthless script.

The lesson learned was to keep gov't the hell away from the money. Sadly, that lesson has been lost. Maybe a few years of Mugabe-like inflation will remind us.

re: #182 bellamags

he he. I thought Columbian Gold standard was the way to go.

I think I smoked that at a concert back in the late 60's

re: #151 calcajun

In other words, the thing that keeps our economy up is the same that keeps Tinkerbell flying--we keep believing in it.

What else is there. Even gold is just so much metal. I'd rather have peanut butter.

re: #166 FurryOldGuyJeans

In a nutshell, yeah. Our money has value because we believe it does. Why do you think the emphasis on Consumer Confidence?

* * *
Lately I'm rejecting being only a consumer, so I'm producing more for my self-confidence & self-esteem.

Americans (and all Great Depression Era survivors) had to be resilient & self reliant and creative, to live to fight World War II.

I have noticed an increase in my business over the past week. I hope it continues. When I bought the business it was supposed to be "recession proof". We shall see.

re: #188 karmic_inquisitor

Yup.

Oddly the phrase used by Clinton. Dems outflank us once again.

Always the populist, weather he agreed with the issue or not

re: #170 calcajun

What, the RN hasn't surrendered yet? I am given to understand that, as of late, the RN's rules of engagement are, basically, "Not in the face!"

Looks like those ROE has changed.

re: #50 FurryOldGuyJeans

Even worse.

Hey Moe I can't see!

re: #193 bellamags

I have noticed an increase in my business over the past week. I hope it continues. When I bought the business it was supposed to be "recession proof". We shall see.

pimp?

re: #131 wright1

Here's what George Bush (in effect Bush here is speaking to Obama), from the CNN interview with Heidi Collins broadcast on Nov. 11, 2008:

Bush: "I think a president who tries to be popular is a president who could fail the country. And I remind people popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever. And there've been times when I've been popular and times when I haven't been popular. But the job of the president is to make good, tough decisions based upon solid principles that are etched in his soul. I know there's this kind of preoccupation by some by popularity polls, but for me they're just moments, they come and go. But what doesn't change [is] what you believe and can you defend those beliefs. And I assure you, as president of the United States you better have a core set of beliefs, because a lot of people are watching you and they are trying to determine where America will stand. A lot of people inside the White House, they are trying to determine whether this person is going to be making decisions based upon core principles or whether the person is going to be all over the map trying to chase popularity."

re: #191 kansas

What else is there. Even gold is just so much metal. I'd rather have peanut butter.

Don't laugh. Food may become currency in the near (dark) future. In Revelation, it speaks of a handful of wheat as a day's wages.

Guess we better start drinking now.

re: #147 FurryOldGuyJeans

On the 100% gold standard or silver standard a government can only produce as much money as the gold or silver held in reserve. The Fed got away from that ideal and started printing more money than the US had gold.

Which is exactly why Nixon took us off the standard internationally. If he was to have been impeached, it should have been for that.

re: #197 sattv4u2

pimp?

Drug Dealer?

Just to fit my mood: Sold me Down the River

re: #197 sattv4u2

pimp?

nope. tanning and spa services.

re: #201 Maximu§

Drug Dealer?

that was my 2nd guess

re: #163 alegrias

re: #156 Adina in Judea

Well, I like to sew as a hobby. It seems like this will come in handy for awhile and I can share the fruits of my hobby with my sisters and my nieces.

It's good to think about ways to save money.

* * *
We still have wonderful hand made wool & cotton baby sweaters aunts made for our family. They were sturdy things of beauty & sentimental value. Great hand-me-downs, which you cannot say of Chinese crapola.

Wow, they sound lovely!

The most beautiful blouse I've ever owned in my life is one I made for myself when I was in college. I spent weeks looking for the right material to suit the style of blouse I wanted to make and I've never seen anything else as pretty as this.

It's a wonderful pastime! It helps soothe my spirits as a break from software engineering and politics. The physical craftsmanship with my hands and the artistic beauty of the things I'm making are really satisfying.

re: #174 3 wood

Add to that the fact that gold is an industrial mineral and has a demand independent of people trying to store value, and you set up a currency system that constricts growth severely.

If you want stability back in the US financial system, focus on mortgages going to qualified borrowers. It is the foundation of finance - screw with the foundation and you get what we are now dealing with.

re: #187 Ben Hur

Discrimination Against Dogs: Black Dog Syndrome

I have a black dog and a white dog.

The black dog has to drink from a separate bowl and sit in the back seat on car rides ;-)

/(no, I'm not serious...but I do have a black dog and a white dog)

re: #195 Maximu§

Looks like those ROE has changed.

About bloody time. I was expecting Nelson to kick open his cask and start raising hell if those policies continued.

re: #205 bellamags

nope. tanning and spa services.

there's a difference ?

re: #173 newsjunkie_ky

Today is my Baby's Birthday. She is now 30, I no longer trust her.

hahhahahahahahahhahaa

re: #205 bellamags

nope. tanning and spa services.

Is that what it is called now a days?

re: #189 unreconstructed rebel

One of the reasons we went on the Gold Standard (BTW, Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution prohibits states from "mak[ing] any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts") is because the original Continental Congress attempted to [mis]control the economy by printing worthless script.

/that applies to the States to prohibit them from issuing State currency, not the Federal government

re: #172 fish

Dow closed down 411 points. I thought everything was going to be happiness and light if we elected the "One"? Where is my happiness and light? Are the oceans at least receding? What about the ozone hole; its healed itself since last Tuesday right? My car needs gas, it will refill on its own right?

/(Not sure if this is sacarasm, Irony or just general snarkiness)

* * *
I feel the same disappointment that the Metro Trains don't yet run on time, for free.

re: #202 buzzsawmonkey

"I'm broke. But I'm tan."

tanning makes you feel good. releases endorphins. and women want to look good no matter what.

re: #209 eschew_obfuscation

I have a black dog and a white dog.

The black dog has to drink from a separate bowl and sit in the back seat on car rides ;-)

/(no, I'm not serious...but I do have a black dog and a white dog)

One of my dogs is black and white..but what concerns me is his inexperience in economic matters.

re: #198 J.S.

Here's what George Bush (in effect Bush here is speaking to Obama), from the CNN interview with Heidi Collins broadcast on Nov. 11, 2008:

Bush: "I think a president who tries to be popular is a president who could fail the country. And I remind people popularity is fleeting. Principles are forever. And there've been times when I've been popular and times when I haven't been popular. But the job of the president is to make good, tough decisions based upon solid principles that are etched in his soul. I know there's this kind of preoccupation by some by popularity polls, but for me they're just moments, they come and go. But what doesn't change [is] what you believe and can you defend those beliefs. And I assure you, as president of the United States you better have a core set of beliefs, because a lot of people are watching you and they are trying to determine where America will stand. A lot of people inside the White House, they are trying to determine whether this person is going to be making decisions based upon core principles or whether the person is going to be all over the map trying to chase popularity."

This is why W has been, is and always will be "misunderestimated" he has made his share of mistakes but I have always loved that he was a man of conviction unlike the Dems/Libs who simply strive for power for power's sake.

re: #209 eschew_obfuscation

My black mutt can be a bit intimidating, I guess. Which is ridiculous, considering her character.

re: #168 wright1

The credit crisis contributed to the temporary demise of the Republican party. Ironically, it will be the very same credit crisis that will cause the resurrection of the Republican party to rise from the ashes.

Expand on this please.

Thanks.

re: #211 sattv4u2

there's a difference ?

I am not even going to grace you with an answer to that question. ; )

re: #173 newsjunkie_ky

Today is my Baby's Birthday. She is now 30, I no longer trust her.

* * *
Thank you for having your Baby!

PS, Be nice to her, she'll be paying for your retirement if she isn't already.

re: #215 alegrias

* * *
I feel the same disappointment that the Metro Trains don't yet run on time, for free.

I was on a cruise last week in the Caribbean and can verify that the seas did not begin receeding...

re: #221 bellamags

I am not even going to grace you with an answer to that question. ; )

Who is Grace? And can I book her by the hour!?!?!?!

re: #204 Iron Fist

Oh, I agree that it would be better to leave it to the States. Roe v. Wade was a real abortion of a case, if you'll permit the turn of phrase. The Left hold it up as if it were Holy Writ, though. And for them, perhaps it is. Certainly the Court has expanded and expanded it to the point that abortion is the most protected "Constitutional" right we have.

As a practical matter, though, I don't think we're going to see Roe v. Wade overturned. Obama will make it a litmus test for any judge he appoints, and the Republicans will go along because that's what they do. The Republican Party doesn't have the balls to filibuster a Supreme Court Justice, and they damn sure won't be able to block one outright.

As far as I'm concerned, it's about time we accepted defeat on this issue and turned to issues we can win on.

I disagree. It's worth fighting for, especially when you have legalized infanticide called partial-birth abortion, and aborted babies which survive are left to die. It's an abomination which cannot be allowed to continue.

re: #222 alegrias

* * *
Thank you for having your Baby!

PS, Be nice to her, she'll be paying for your retirement if she isn't already.

I'm paying for mine. But the kids will probably end up picking out my nursing home...

re: #181 karmic_inquisitor

Heh.

re: #213 Nevergiveup

Is that what it is called now a days?

ha ha ha. should I be insulted? : )

re: #187 Ben Hur

Discrimination Against Dogs: Black Dog Syndrome

Didnt take too long fore I found out
What people mean my down and out.
Spent my money, took my car,
Started tellin her friends she wants to be a star.
I dont know but I been told
A big legged woman aint got no soul.

One problem is that every time a Republican/Catholic/whoever wants to address the issue of teens getting abortions without parental consent (unlike getting an aspirin at school) or tries to point out that there are alternatives to abortion (abstinence education/adoption, etc.) that could use some support, they are immediately labeled "anti-choice" or "anti-women" or "anti-poor" or "anti-minority". The Left refuses to listen to reason on the issue and the bulk of the populace is conditioned to believe that anyone who isn't "pro-choice" is some sort of Bible-thumping Nazi.
I hate discussing abortion for this reason.

re: #214 Killian Bundy

/that applies to the States to prohibit them from issuing State currency, not the Federal government

Sadly. My understanding is that was written before the idea of a national bank, or more recently, the Federal Reserve, was imagined.

What gold inforces is financial discipline. Without it, well ...

Looks like German anarchists are trying to sabotage the French railway system.

re: #218 wright1

This is why W has been, is and always will be "misunderestimated" he has made his share of mistakes but I have always loved that he was a man of conviction unlike the Dems/Libs who simply strive for power for power's sake.

Ditto

re: #229 bellamags

ha ha ha. should I be insulted? : )

I hope not since I was planning on asking for a discount?

re: #177 goddessoftheclassroom

There is also a HUGE difference between supporting abortion and supporting abortion rights.

Exactly! That's a distinction that seldom gets pointed out, though-- kudos!

re: #217 OldLineTexan

One of my dogs is black and white..but what concerns me is his inexperience in economic matters.

Oh dear, you gave your dog your credit cards, too? I did that with my Akita, knowing perfectly well that breed was one that could turn on you. I am SO ashamed.///

re: #179 calcajun

No thanks necessary. We're just keeping the American end up.///

* * * *
I thank you for having the courage to have children.

Not everyone does, or did.

Speaking from experience here. Rueing the past, grateful others bear us future Great Americans.

re: #217 OldLineTexan

One of my dogs is black and white..but what concerns me is his inexperience in economic matters.

I'm guessing he wants to spread the other dogs' kibble around to dogs that don't hunt as well too?

re: #44 LoFlyer

Calm down mate, Fairness doctrine cannot be implemented until a couple of more FCC commissioners are appointed by the socialists. Give it six months and then a huge amount of litigation will occur. To apply the doctrine only to AM radio is disgrace to to journalism.

Limbaugh and some other right wingers on a FM station here in the Twin Cities.

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey

What do you do after they've "looked good" for ten or fifteen years and their epidermis resembles a distressed bomber jacket?

Then they go to the spa for treatments to try to make their skins look like mine; I wore hats and long sleeved shirts all my life, and (at 45) my skin is holding up.

I also wore a bra most of the time, so my breasts don't dive for my waistline the second I remove it now.

Take that, all you girls who were so tanned and sexy and bobbing around in your 20s!

There's a good reason that no country in the world still has currency backed by precious metal.

/the size of the global economy far exceeds the value of all the precious metal reserves on the planet, both mined and still in the Earth

re: #238 calcajun

Akita's are georgeous!

re: #238 calcajun

Oh dear, you gave your dog your credit cards, too? I did that with my Akita, knowing perfectly well that breed was one that could turn on you. I am SO ashamed.///

Yup even OJ's Akita couldn't keep it's mouth shut?

The New Enterprise from J.J. Abrhams Star Trek

[Link: popwatch.ew.com...]

the look is some what jarring...but she kinda grows on yah

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey

What do you do after they've "looked good" for ten or fifteen years and their epidermis resembles a distressed bomber jacket?

You then trade that 40 in for two 20's

re: #218 wright1

re: #235 unreconstructed rebel

Ditto

Double Ditto

Thank You, President Bush!

re: #198 J.S.

Nobody knows that better than President Bush. In spite of his faults, I do love that man.

re: #241 The Other Les

Limbaugh and some other right wingers on a FM station here in the Twin Cities.

Rush--in Stereo!

re: #244 bosforus

Akita's are georgeous!

Or gorgeous, depending on how quickly you try to type. :)

re: #116 Charles

To Perkins and his crew, anything except a 100% hardline stance is "pro-choice." Of course, they wouldn't call it that.

As a Catholic pro-lifer living in an overwhelmingly Protestant area, I have observed that the 100% purity standard is less evident among pro-life evangelicals than among pro-life Catholics.

Maybe Perkins and his ilk distrusted McCain on this issue because, despite his strong pro-life record, McCain has never run around preaching and thundering about it. (I happen to consider that a great virtue, but some might not.)

re: #224 sattv4u2

Who is Grace? And can I book her by the hour!?!?!?!

OK. I have been a massage therapist for 16 years. I have heard it all and seen most of it all. I work hard to eliminate the stigma from my profession. I will call the law if I know an establishment is engaged in illegal activities. I treat MS patients, people with spinal injuries, migraines, shoulder problems, and other medical conditions. I realize most people get the wrong idea when they hear the word massage, but it helps many people feel physically and mentally better.

re: #238 calcajun

Oh dear, you gave your dog your credit cards, too?

The only cards my dogs (one brown, one black) have are their brand new voter registration cards. Thanks, ACORN!

re: #246 Jewels (AKA Julian)

The New Enterprise from J.J. Abrhams Star Trek

[Link: popwatch.ew.com...]

the look is some what jarring...but she kinda grows on yah

The nacelles look like blow-dryers, dammit. Not sure I like it, yet.

did anyone else notice earlier today a bloody bullet hole just under the "n" in the LGF main page banner. It's gone now...

was I seeing things?

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey

What do you do after they've "looked good" for ten or fifteen years and their epidermis resembles a distressed bomber jacket?

Those people usually abuse their bodies in other ways in addition to sun exposure. Thats why they look like shit. I have tanned for 15 years and I still look damn good.

re: #219 Dianna

My black mutt can be a bit intimidating, I guess. Which is ridiculous, considering her character.

...but enough about Michelle

re: #253 bellamags

OK. I have been a massage therapist for 16 years. I have heard it all and seen most of it all. I work hard to eliminate the stigma from my profession. I will call the law if I know an establishment is engaged in illegal activities. I treat MS patients, people with spinal injuries, migraines, shoulder problems, and other medical conditions. I realize most people get the wrong idea when they hear the word massage, but it helps many people feel physically and mentally better.

cool ,,, but does that mean Grace IS or is NOT available !?!?!?!

j/k

re: #140 experiencedtraveller

Some Catholics ARE single issue, pro-life voters.

re: #256 Hoffmonster

did anyone else notice earlier today a bloody bullet hole just under the "n" in the LGF main page banner. It's gone now...

was I seeing things?

/that was a poppy

re: #199 calcajun

Don't laugh. Food may become currency in the near (dark) future. In Revelation, it speaks of a handful of wheat as a day's wages.

Guess we better start drinking now.

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The take away lesson is learn to brew! Not just consume a consumable.