Overnight Open Thread
Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.
— Aldous Huxley
Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.
— Aldous Huxley
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:14:05pm |
Here's a creepy fact from across the pond. UK Sperm Banks in Need of a Bailout. Eww.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:14:07pm |
Bears will beat the packers on Sunday in Green Bay. You read it here first!
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:15:04pm |
re: #1 Wyatt Earp
Here's a creepy fact from across the pond. UK Sperm Banks in Need of a Bailout. Eww.
I'd donate, but I'm broke.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:15:48pm |
re: #3 StudSupreme
You can't say that. Prepare to be deleted...
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:15:48pm |
re: #4 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I'd donate, but I'm broke.
I'd donate, but I'm snipped. 3 kids - and one on the way - will do that to a guy.
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StudSupreme Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:15:59pm |
re: #1 Wyatt Earp
Here's a creepy fact from across the pond. UK Sperm Banks in Need of a Bailout. Eww.
This suggests something about UK males...
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:16:16pm |
re: #3 StudSupreme
FIRST!
I've been waiting a while to say that. ;-)
and it may be awhile longer before you're in a position to do it again...
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:16:24pm |
re: #5 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
You can't say that. Prepare to be deleted...
Yep, gotta read the rules, my friend.
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StudSupreme Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:16:46pm |
re: #5 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
You can't say that. Prepare to be deleted...
I'm just kidding around!
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StudSupreme Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:17:18pm |
re: #8 redc1c4
and it may be awhile longer before you're in a position to do it again...
Wow, you guys are just a barrel 'o fun...
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:18:07pm |
re: #11 StudSupreme
Wow, you guys are just a barrel 'o fun...
Not trying to be snarky, but it's one of the LGF "Don'ts."
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Salem Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:18:20pm |
I think it auto-deletes if it's all by itself and actually the first post. Otherwise...
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:18:24pm |
re: #6 Wyatt Earp
I'd donate, but I'm snipped. 3 kids - and one on the way - will do that to a guy.
All the fun without the consequences. Smart move.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:18:43pm |
re: #2 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I'm still smarting after tonight's loss...
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:18:57pm |
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:19:23pm |
re: #14 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
All the fun without the consequences. Smart move.
Except I have a 9 month old. The next one - my first girl - is due on January 3rd. The missus is always early, so I'm looking at Irish twins . . . and a lot of OT to pay for them. :)
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StudSupreme Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:19:30pm |
re: #12 Wyatt Earp
Not trying to be snarky, but it's one of the LGF "Don'ts."
You're no fun, and I can prove it!
I bet you don't even like this video:
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:19:54pm |
re: #11 StudSupreme
Wow, you guys are just a barrel 'o fun...
take it up with Stinky... we just w*rk here.
/LNDT
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:20:27pm |
re: #15 Fenway_Nation
I'm still smarting after tonight's loss...
Yeah, but your Bruins are playing out of their mind. Good thing, too, because I have Savard and Wideman on my fantasy team.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:21:17pm |
re: #15 Fenway_Nation
I'm still smarting after tonight's loss...
It was a great game. And Belecheck not kicking that field goal on fourth down from the 24 yard line in the third quarter came back to bite him in the butt. Terrible call there.
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calcajun Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:22:28pm |
If the facts do not conform to the theory, they must be disposed of. -Maier's Law
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:23:31pm |
re: #18 StudSupreme
You're no fun, and I can prove it!
I bet you don't even like this video:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:23:55pm |
re: #17 Wyatt Earp
Except I have a 9 month old. The next one - my first girl - is due on January 3rd. The missus is always early, so I'm looking at Irish twins . . . and a lot of OT to pay for them. :)
To quote Larry The Cable Guy: "That'll piss you off".
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calcajun Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:23:59pm |
re: #4 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I'd donate, but I'm broke.
Isn't there an operation to fix that? Oh, that "broke".
Sounds like no one is keeping the British end up.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:24:41pm |
re: #25 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
To quote Larry The Cable Guy: "That'll piss you off".
Eh, it's nice to have a girl, but in all honesty, she is an "Oops." (Of course, we'll never tell her that.)
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:24:51pm |
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BlueCanuck Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:25:25pm |
re: #26 calcajun
Well the lot of them seem to be coming pussified over there for some reason. I could quote a reason or a couple thousand . . .
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calcajun Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:25:37pm |
re: #7 StudSupreme
This suggests something about UK males...
Look carefully at the Royal Family and you'll see the answer.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:25:46pm |
re: #27 Wyatt Earp
Eh, it's nice to have a girl, but in all honesty, she is an "Oops." (Of course, we'll never tell her that.)
I was an "oops", 40 years ago. I know what you mean.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:26:42pm |
re: #20 Wyatt Earp
That's true...but I guess being bummed over any New England team losing to a New York team trumps any joy I have over another New England team beating up the Habs...still- I caught the 1st 2 periods on the drive home tonight. How come Price wasn't that Sieve-like in the 1st round against Boston last year?
Good win over the Hawks (both Black and just plain Hawks) the other night, tho'.
/Not sure who I'm supposed to hate more- Montreal or NYC
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:26:46pm |
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stevieray Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:27:05pm |
A nation that sells "spotted dick" in supermarkets ought to be able to handle these kinda donations... just sayin'...
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:27:17pm |
There's a game every Thursday night for the next 4 weeks.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:27:40pm |
re: #33 Fenway_Nation
That's true...but I guess being bummed over any New England team losing to a New York team trumps any joy I have over another New England team beating up the Habs...still- I caught the 1st 2 periods on the drive home tonight. How come Price wasn't that Sieve-like in the 1st round against Boston last year?
Good win over the Hawks (both Black and just plain Hawks) the other night, tho'.
/Not sure who I'm supposed to hate more- Montreal or NYC
Probably the Jets right now, because they're playing so well. The Habs are a good team, but Buffalo and the B's are the class of that division.
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Bosch Fawstin Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:28:07pm |
They call it Islam, we call it...
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:28:08pm |
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Rancher Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:28:15pm |
After how many years and I still forget Thursday night football.
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:28:39pm |
re: #27 Wyatt Earp
Eh, it's nice to have a girl, but in all honesty, she is an "Oops." (Of course, we'll never tell her that.)
until she starts searching the Internet for a school project in a few years...
/good move...
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:28:53pm |
re: #35 stevieray
A nation that sells "spotted dick" in supermarkets ought to be able to handle these kinda donations... just sayin'...
That was my nickname in high school! Heh.
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stevieray Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:29:38pm |
re: #40 Rancher
After how many years and I still forget Thursday night football.
Between pro and college, you can watch football every single night this time of year.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:29:49pm |
re: #21 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
No shit- the last time I was shaking my head at Belicheck coaching decisions like that was the Sunday night game in Indy...
/It's not often I say 'The Hoodie cost us the game with that decision..'
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:29:49pm |
re: #36 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
There's a game every Thursday night for the next 4 weeks.
can't be... USC plays on Saturday.
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Outrider Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:30:01pm |
re: #1 Wyatt Earp
Here's a creepy fact from across the pond. UK Sperm Banks in Need of a Bailout. Eww.
Why? Are they flooding because of a leak?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:30:28pm |
re: #40 Rancher
After how many years and I still forget Thursday night football.
I don't even have cable and I watched it on my computer. Less than perfect video quality, but I watched it.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:31:28pm |
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:31:41pm |
re: #46 Outrider
Why? Are they flooding because of a leak?
That sounds like the perfect scenario for Mighty Putty!
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:32:04pm |
re: #1 Wyatt Earp
Here's a creepy fact from across the pond. UK Sperm Banks in Need of a Bailout. Eww.
I got yer stimulus package right heah'!
/giggity
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:32:28pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:32:49pm |
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gmsc Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:33:06pm |
Eerily similar songs:
Britney Spears' Womanizer
Theme from Sid & Marty Krofft's Lidsville
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:33:47pm |
re: #53 gmsc
Eerily similar songs:
Britney Spears' Womanizer
Theme from Sid & Marty Krofft's Lidsville
I am not even going to ask who you figured that one out? I mean, Sid and Marty Krofft? *shudder*
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Rancher Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:35:25pm |
re: #50 Fenway_Nation
The US pays for sperm? Why am I selling plasma?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:36:24pm |
Next Thursday is Cincinnati at Pittsburgh.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:36:40pm |
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Nightwatch Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:36:57pm |
re: #8 redc1c4
jumped ya hard on the last thread,
just doing my think, did not see the link...
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gmsc Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:37:24pm |
re: #54 Wyatt Earp
I am not even going to ask who you figured that one out? I mean, Sid and Marty Krofft? *shudder*
I heard Womanizer for the first time earlier today. It bugged me immediately because it sounded familiar, but I couldn't place it. Every so often through the day, I'd hum the section that sounded familiar without the words.
While making dinner tonight, I found myself singing, "In the middle of the summer, in the middle of a park . . . " and it hit me it was Lidsville! I ran to YouTube (yes, dinner was saved anyway), searched for Lidsville, and there it was!
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:37:57pm |
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esch Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:38:22pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:38:37pm |
re: #60 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Sorry, that was crude.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:38:47pm |
re: #59 gmsc
I heard Womanizer for the first time earlier today. It bugged me immediately because it sounded familiar, but I couldn't place it. Every so often through the day, I'd hum the section that sounded familiar without the words.
While making dinner tonight, I found myself singing, "In the middle of the summer, in the middle of a park . . . " and it hit me it was Lidsville! I ran to YouTube (yes, dinner was saved anyway), searched for Lidsville, and there it was!
That's actually pretty impressive. Bravo!
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:39:30pm |
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:41:18pm |
re: #58 Nightwatch
jumped ya hard on the last thread,
just doing my think, did not see the link...
that was last thread... and i haven't even seen it.
are you cute? %-)
/white smoke!
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BlueCanuck Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:41:19pm |
I see this thread has quickly found bottom.
/dynamite any one.
//you know, we can always dig our selves out of this hole.
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Wyatt Earp Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:41:47pm |
Love to help, but I gotta get to bed. G'night all!
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:42:25pm |
re: #59 gmsc
My uncle works at a music store in western mass...apparently one of the perks (prior to the advent of MP3s) was he could get a good deal on imported CDs.
One afternoon he was listening to some random Hindi pop CD and thought 'Hey...this sounds familiar'. It was 'borrowed' (to use a generous term) by the Black Eyed Peas for one of their songs...he never specified which one. He initially thought it was the other way around until he saw that the Hindi-pop song was from 1996 or thereabouts...
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:42:27pm |
re: #62 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Sorry, that was crude.
delightfully tacky, yet unrefined...
/don't ever change. %-)
/drink!
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Rancher Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:43:16pm |
re: #54 Wyatt Earp
Have Sid and Marty Krofft ever been prosecuted for H.R. Pufnstuf?
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:43:18pm |
re: #66 BlueCanuck
I see this thread has quickly found bottom.
/dynamite any one.
//you know, we can always dig our selves out of this hole.
if we'd just toss all the empties out of the hole, there'd be room for the drilling rig!
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BlueCanuck Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:44:02pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
Sperm donors are like male sharmutas.
/white smoke
Yeah, but just don't try doing it in Australia. May end up costing you.
/let me go find that linky.
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:44:09pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
Sperm donors are like male sharmutas.
/white smoke
if you're getting smoke, slow down and use a lubricant...
/white something %-)
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:45:46pm |
re: #70 Sharmuta
Sperm donors are like male sharmutas.
/white smoke
We have a new Pope? What happened to Benedict XXXI?
/
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:46:23pm |
re: #74 redc1c4
if you're getting smoke, slow down and use a lubricant...
/white something %-)
In a white room, with black curtains...
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:47:18pm |
This is more like it- Talking to myself.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:48:00pm |
The only way to have an intelligent conversation!
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BlueCanuck Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:48:09pm |
re: #78 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
This is more like it- Talking to myself.
Shhh, you're interrupting the voices in my head.
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gmsc Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:48:21pm |
re: #71 Rancher
Have Sid and Marty Krofft ever been prosecuted for H.R. Pufnstuf?
Why would they be prosecuted for H.R. Pufnstuf? While I'm thinking of Krofft and court cases, they did successfully sue McDonald's for ripping off the look and feel of the Krofft look for their McDonaldland ads.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:48:48pm |
Geez, I feel like Kevin from "Home Alone".
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Killian Bundy Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:48:50pm |
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Salem Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:49:50pm |
re: #53 gmsc
Eerily similar songs:
Britney Spears' Womanizer
Theme from Sid & Marty Krofft's Lidsville
Wow! That takes me back. I'd forgotten about that show, entirely. Charles Nelson Reilly and Butch Patrick. Talk about a gas from the past.
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gmsc Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:51:43pm |
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Salem Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:52:09pm |
re: #54 Wyatt Earp
I am not even going to ask who you figured that one out? I mean, Sid and Marty Krofft? *shudder*
They don't sound all that close to me, though.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:52:20pm |
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:52:46pm |
re: #79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
The only way to have an intelligent conversation!
you're not there yet...
/white smoke
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gmsc Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:54:23pm |
re: #87 Salem
They don't sound all that close to me, though.
It's not similar all the way through, but there are segments that are almost identical.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:55:37pm |
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Rancher Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:56:29pm |
Just watched a Family Guy episode, the one with the NAAFP (National Association for the Advancement of Fat People), and they slammed Jeb Bush and Pes. Bush both. Can't wait to see them slam Obama.
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gmsc Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:56:40pm |
re: #68 Fenway_Nation
My uncle works at a music store in western mass...apparently one of the perks (prior to the advent of MP3s) was he could get a good deal on imported CDs.
One afternoon he was listening to some random Hindi pop CD and thought 'Hey...this sounds familiar'. It was 'borrowed' (to use a generous term) by the Black Eyed Peas for one of their songs...he never specified which one. He initially thought it was the other way around until he saw that the Hindi-pop song was from 1996 or thereabouts...
It makes me wonder about "Oops! I Did It Again!" and "Oops! I Made A Mistake!".
;)
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BlueCanuck Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:57:13pm |
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gmsc Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:57:43pm |
re: #92 Rancher
Just watched a Family Guy episode, the one with the NAAFP (National Association for the Advancement of Fat People), and they slammed Jeb Bush and Pes. Bush both. Can't wait to see them slam Obama.
You're gonna wait a looong time, especially considering Family Guy is the series that featured Stewie in a Nazi uniform that included a McCain/Palin button.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:57:53pm |
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redc1c4 Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:58:27pm |
re: #92 Rancher
Just watched a Family Guy episode, the one with the NAAFP (National Association for the Advancement of Fat People), and they slammed Jeb Bush and Pes. Bush both. Can't wait to see them slam Obama.
holding your breath?
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calcajun Thu, Nov 13, 2008 11:58:53pm |
re: #81 gmsc
Why would they be prosecuted for H.R. Pufnstuf? While I'm thinking of Krofft and court cases, they did successfully sue McDonald's for ripping off the look and feel of the Krofft look for their McDonaldland ads.
Can you say "thought crimes" or "crimes against humanity".
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calcajun Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:00:03am |
re: #76 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
We have a new Pope? What happened to Benedict XXXI?
/
Stop it with your straw man arguments///
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SurferDoc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:00:11am |
H R Puffinstuff--an early indication taht Western civilization was in trouble
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:00:41am |
re: #92 Rancher
Don't get your hopes up. Unlike South Park, they are not equal opportunity offenders and I'm pretty sure McFarlane donated to the 0bama campaign.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:01:03am |
re: #70 Sharmuta
Sperm donors are like male sharmutas.
/white smoke
Sharm... and I thought you were my one and only.
Heart break and melancoly settles over me like out first Republican President.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:03:31am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:04:37am |
re: #103 shanec99
Sharm... and I thought you were my one and only.
Heart break and melancoly settles over me like out first Republican President.
maybe you should get into action...
/within the ROE, of course. %-)
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:08:31am |
re: #104 Killian Bundy
Now you're talking.
/where few white people dare to tread, for good reason
i was young and had a future when that song came out...
/and then they elected Carter.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:08:43am |
re: #92 Rancher
Just watched a Family Guy episode, the one with the NAAFP (National Association for the Advancement of Fat People), and they slammed Jeb Bush and Pes. Bush both. Can't wait to see them slam Obama.
They had an episode about a month ago where some character was wearing a Nazi uniform and had a McCain/Palin button on it.
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:10:18am |
Morning all from a beautiful,warm sunny day Durban S.Africa. I want to link an article from RedState and not to sure how to do this. You assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:12:05am |
re: #109 Erik The Red
Morning Erik- what the hell is up with the Rand this month?
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:12:54am |
re: #109 Erik The Red
Do you want to link it in a post or use one of the spinoff links above-thread?
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:22am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:15:18am |
re: #110 Fenway_Nation
F**k knows. It is any ones guess. Will swing as much as 100cents in one day. It of great concern to me as I will be returning to the US mid next year and have lost about 40% in dollar terms on my money.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:20:32am |
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:22:51am |
re: #102 Fenway_Nation
Don't get your hopes up. Unlike South Park, they are not equal opportunity offenders and I'm pretty sure McFarlane donated to the 0bama campaign.
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Rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:23:15am |
re: #117 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I know what a sarc tag is but what's a Guten tag?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:26:55am |
re: #119 Rancher
I know what a sarc tag is but what's a Guten tag?
It's German for good morning. Or maybe good night.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:27:49am |
re: #115 Erik The Red
Well, I usually open up the URL in another window, Copy/cut it from the address bar, click the little chain/link icon right above the comment box and then paste the URL in the little window that pops up.
/A little less straightforward if you have some sort of pop-up blocker.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:29:12am |
re: #118 Neo Con since 9-11
Don't you love it when these imbecilic libs give money to people who they know will take more of their money? Mark Levin is right. Liberalism IS the philosophy of the stupid.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:30:39am |
this is one of the 6 element's all time fave groups... (and it's all my fault. %-)
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Old Engineer Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:31:22am |
#27: Wyatt Earp
Girls or boys, take what comes, love them and let them know it.
I'm an old guy, veteran, disabled, but still enjoying life to the fullest. My plumbing doesn't work anymore the way it should, not like a young guy, but when it did I fathered one son, three daughters, and two stillborn. My wife still grieves the ones we lost, although it happened over fifty years ago. The son is a fine man, but he does his thing, he is a professional, and about all we see of him, mostly a function of location, is regular phone calls and a visit every year or two.
Our daughters too are professionals, but they cling to family, and we see them at least weekly.
We have grandchildren as well, four girls and four boys, all fine individuals.
It is my opinion that girls are more needful of tight family relationships. I would like to have had more boys, I guess to propagate the proud family name. That is certainly selfish of me, but I suspect many men feel that way. No matter, I have three grandsons who will do that, also two nephews.
To me, family is what life is all about. How lonely and uninteresting my life would be were there none.
Old Engineer
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:31:32am |
Your text to link...
re: #122 Fenway_Nation
Thanks lets see if this works.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:31:46am |
re: #119 Rancher
I know what a sarc tag is but what's a Guten tag?
german for "white smoke"?
/white smoke
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Rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:33:32am |
Adios. Guthaben. See ya later, good night Lizards. Any further posts will be Rustler's.
/Real Rancher
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:34:07am |
re: #128 Erik The Red
So much for change in the new administration. Look how many ex Clinton people are in his "Change" admin.
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sdkruiser Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:34:20am |
re: #118 Neo Con since 9-11
I've got faith in McFarlane. Doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who lies awake worrying about who he might offend.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:35:06am |
re: #126 redc1c4
this is one of the 6 element's all time fave groups... (and it's all my fault. %-)
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Mauser Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:36:04am |
re: #53 gmsc
Disturbing, 42,689 comments on the Britney video.
After the first ten thousand, what's the point of saying anything?
And who would read them all?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:36:15am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:37:01am |
re: #128 Erik The Red
Thanks lets see if this works.
that reads like a "Who's Who" of "Who Can't".
but then again, look who we're talking about...
/drink
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gmsc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:38:18am |
re: #134 Mauser
Disturbing, 42,689 comments on the Britney video.
After the first ten thousand, what's the point of saying anything?
And who would read them all?
Maybe they think Britney reads each comment personally.
** rolls eyes **
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:38:44am |
re: #126 redc1c4
this is one of the 6 element's all time fave groups... (and it's all my fault. %-)
What the hell was that? It looked like a 33 rpm record played at 78 rpm.
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Outrider Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:38:49am |
re: #138 gmsc
Maybe they think Britney reads each comment personally.
** rolls eyes **
She can read? Who knew?
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:38:52am |
re: #133 Killian Bundy
strange... i never considered the Velvet Underground to be Lou Reed wannabees... a little harsh with the judging, aren't you?
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:39:38am |
re: #134 Mauser
Disturbing, 42,689 comments on the Britney video.
After the first ten thousand, what's the point of saying anything?
And who would read them all?
they can read? wtf. lol. omg... etc.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:39:54am |
re: #132 sdkruiser
I do to. I have faith in McFarlane's continued ability to cheap-shot Republicans, conservatives, christians and people from the flyover states in general with his program.
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gmsc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:40:16am |
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:40:24am |
re: #124 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Don't you love it when these imbecilic libs give money to people who they know will take more of their money? Mark Levin is right. Liberalism IS the philosophy of the stupid.
Honestly, I don't even credit wealthy liberals with being stupid. I think wealthy liberals they are greedy and cynical; greedy because they would never give that money to someone in true need and cynical because they think less wealthy liberals wouldn't give unless the government forces them too. Wealthy conservatives on the other hand would prefer to give directly to the needy and believe correctly that less wealthy conservatives will give to the needy without government coercion.
Proofy I'm correct
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:40:32am |
re: #132 sdkruiser
I've got faith in McFarlane. Doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who lies awake worrying about who he might offend.
Maybe not, but he's a stupid POS and I hope he will soon FOAD. Why are you defending the asshole?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:40:52am |
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:41:15am |
re: #133 Killian Bundy
Hmmm, I think some one needs to refresh themselves on their new rock history a bit.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:41:21am |
re: #138 gmsc
Maybe they think Britney reads each comment personally.
** rolls eyes **
she can read?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:41:37am |
re: #139 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
PIMF-
What the hell was that? It looked like a 33 rpm record played at 78 rpm sounds.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:42:05am |
re: #139 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
What the hell was that? It looked like a 33 rpm record played at 78 rpm.
classic punk... loud n'fast!
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:43:44am |
Thanks Fenway for your help. Will still need to perfect it but it is a start. Have go see the dentist be back later.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:43:44am |
re: #143 Fenway_Nation
I left out the military, too...
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:45:18am |
re: #148 BlueCanuck
Hmmm, I think some one needs to refresh themselves on their new rock history a bit.
/really, schooling me on Velvet Underground?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:45:55am |
re: #145 Neo Con since 9-11
Honestly, I don't even credit wealthy liberals with being stupid. I think wealthy liberals they are greedy and cynical; greedy because they would never give that money to someone in true need and cynical because they think less wealthy liberals wouldn't give unless the government forces them too. Wealthy conservatives on the other hand would prefer to give directly to the needy and believe correctly that less wealthy conservatives will give to the needy without government coercion.
Proofy I'm correct
I saw that! Liberals only like to give OPM- Other people's money.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:46:16am |
re: #155 Killian Bundy
My apologies. Mis-read your sarc tag.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:46:47am |
re: #151 Outrider
I'm with
Rredc1c4...they can read? And write?
the coonass cumdumpster lives up on Mullholland, and routinely comes down the hill to bless the hoi palloi with her presence and cash... tying up traffic with the paperazi and drawing off the already short staffed local LAPD with bullshit.
can you tell i despise her, or should i go into details?
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:47:18am |
re: #132 sdkruiser
You could be correct. I'm not really sure about the Family guy series as I don't watch alot of TV. I was just bored and took a look at who the creator of the series contributed too, well over $45,000 to the dems $0 to the republicans
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Outrider Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:47:30am |
re: #147 Killian Bundy
/yes, and if you don't have the Loaded album in your inventory, you're a loser
(sigh) Yet more proof. I have hundreds of records but I do not have that one. i can not remember the name of the one I do have, just remember it is grayish and has a photo of him on the cover wearing sunglasses.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:48:09am |
re: #155 Killian Bundy
/really, schooling me on Velvet Underground?
oh come on... you get schooled all the time.
(you just don't admit it. %-)
/white smoke
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:49:49am |
So now the MSM is identified as the source that trashed Gov Palen and blamed the McCain camp suggesting that Gov Paelen was ignorant and did not know that Africa was not a country.
Funny how this comes out after the election.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
If we ever trust anything that the MSM says about Conservatives again we should be ashamed.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:50:03am |
re: #160 Outrider
(sigh) Yet more proof. I have hundreds of records but I do not have that one. i can not remember the name of the one I do have, just remember it is grayish and has a photo of him on the cover wearing sunglasses.
do you have a copy of "It's a Beautiful Day"?
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:51:38am |
re: #162 shanec99
So now the MSM is identified as the source that trashed Gov Palen and blamed the McCain camp suggesting that Gov Paelen was ignorant and did not know that Africa was not a country.
Funny how this comes out after the election.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]If we ever trust anything that the MSM says
about Conservativesagain, we should be ashamed.
lying bastids, one and all.
(fixed that for ya, btw! %-)
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:51:40am |
re: #145 Neo Con since 9-11
Honestly, I don't even credit wealthy liberals with being stupid. I think wealthy liberals they are greedy and cynical; greedy because they would never give that money to someone in true need and cynical because they think less wealthy liberals wouldn't give unless the government forces them too. Wealthy conservatives on the other hand would prefer to give directly to the needy and believe correctly that less wealthy conservatives will give to the needy without government coercion.
Proofy I'm correct
Levin is wrong... Liberalism is not the philosophy of the stupid... it is the philosophy of lies.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:51:41am |
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Outrider Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:52:05am |
re: #158 redc1c4
the coonass cumdumpster lives up on Mullholland, and routinely comes down the hill to bless the hoi palloi with her presence and cash... tying up traffic with the paperazi and drawing off the already short staffed local LAPD with bullshit.
can you tell i despise her, or should i go into details?
I got the gist. ;-)>
She's just a name that flashes across the tabloids in the supermarket to me. Wouldn't know her if she flashed her non-panty wearing legs at me from the car seat. See. i got that much from the tabloids. lol
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:52:45am |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:53:33am |
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gmsc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:54:15am |
re: #170 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Only children watch cartoons.
In Soviet Russia, cartoo . . .
/Ah, skip it
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:56:05am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:56:38am |
re: #168 shanec99
Appreciated
de nada... it's all part of the free service!
being a career SP4, i found it handy to be useful. %-)
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:57:33am |
re: #170 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I watch The Venture Brothers- guess that means I'm young at heart.
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gmsc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:58:09am |
re: #87 Salem
They don't sound all that close to me, though.
Perhaps this edit will highlight the similarities a little better.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:01:34am |
re: #176 gmsc
Well so much for going to bed early tonight. :p
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:02:15am |
re: #174 redc1c4
de nada... it's all part of the free service!
being a career SP4, i found it handy to be useful. %-)
SP4... what the devil is that?
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:03:48am |
re: #176 gmsc
Perhaps this edit will highlight the similarities a little better.
sorry, but after i jammed the pens into either ear canal, i really couldn't tell much about either one... but i felt much better.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:04:45am |
re: #175 Fenway_Nation
I watch The Venture Brothers- guess that means I'm young at heart.
I have never heard of that. But then again, I've never watched Seinfeld, The Simpsons, Home Improvement, Friends, The Cosby Show, Coach, etc.
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gmsc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:04:50am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:06:06am |
re: #179 shanec99
SP4... what the devil is that?
before your time FNG: SPC these days... %-)
my DOR was 3DEC83, and i was tossed out in 9/03, never having been promoted, demoted or given an Art 15... and yes, i know that's impossible.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:06:12am |
re: #182 gmsc
Great, now you're going to make red jealous. And make him try to out do you.
/white smoke.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:08:19am |
re: #181 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I have never heard of that. But then again, I've never watched Seinfeld, The Simpsons, Home Improvement, Friends, The Cosby Show, Coach, etc.
"television is referred to as a medium because it is neither rare nor well done." Ernie Kovacs
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:09:08am |
re: #184 BlueCanuck
Great, now you're going to make red jealous. And make him try to out do you.
/white smoke.
i like to think of it as training my replacement... %-)
/white smoke
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:12:51am |
re: #185 redc1c4
"television is referred to as a medium because it is neither rare nor well done." Ernie Kovacs
And has been called an "idiot box". But I still watch it. I just limit what I watch.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:13:16am |
re: #181 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Think of some of those 60's or 70's cartoon adventurers and sleuths (Scooby Doo, Johnny Quest) now embittered middle-aged failures.
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gmsc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:14:15am |
re: #188 Fenway_Nation
Think of some of those 60's or 70's cartoon adventurers and sleuths (Scooby Doo, Johnny Quest) now embittered middle-aged failures.
...or, just think it as an embittered cartoon failure.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:15:26am |
re: #183 redc1c4
OK you were an Army Bubba... I am Navy. I am familiar with USN and USMC ranks.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:16:00am |
re: #186 redc1c4
i like to think of it as training my replacement... %-)
/white smoke
/and if you don't have The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway in your inventory, you're a loser too
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:16:32am |
re: #188 Fenway_Nation
Think of some of those 60's or 70's cartoon adventurers and sleuths (Scooby Doo, Johnny Quest) now embittered middle-aged failures.
I was specifically referring to the crap on Fox Sunday nights.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:17:34am |
Three days of Day by Day on the topic of Onelam. (Or is it Obamalam?)
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:19:18am |
re: #192 Killian Bundy
/and if you
don'thave The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway in your inventory, you're a loser too
fixed that for ya!
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:20:10am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:26:40am |
re: #197 Killian Bundy
/at your peril
terrified i am...
(not)
whatcha gonna hit me with, a penguin attack?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:28:42am |
re: #196 redc1c4
fixed that for ya!
Nevermind that they can pack Wembley stadium without Peter Gabriel.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:31:26am |
re: #198 redc1c4
terrified i am...
(not)
whatcha gonna hit me with, a penguin attack?
/well, that's family friendly
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:31:30am |
re: #199 Killian Bundy
Nevermind that they can pack Wembley stadium without Peter Gabriel.
all that proves is the same thing coonass's CD and concert sales prove: there's lots of people with more money than musical taste.
popular != good
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Killian Bundy Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:36:29am |
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:41:04am |
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:54:16am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:56:25am |
re: #209 BlueCanuck
No it's not, it's just
fermenting. ;)restingmorning littleoldlady
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:56:26am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:57:40am |
youtube keeps tyelling me stuff is no longer available... some weird server thing.
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littleoldlady Fri, Nov 14, 2008 1:58:47am |
red! :-)
(Reboot the youtube page.)
Les! :-)
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littleoldlady Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:00:00am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:00:32am |
I can almost taste the cup of assorted fruits
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:01:00am |
re: #216 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
would you send me your fool-ade avatar graphic?
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:01:23am |
re: #216 littleoldlady
*DING DING DING* Well done. Thanks for the fruitcup. I think it's my bed time now so later everyone. Stay scaly.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:01:41am |
re: #218 Fenway_Nation
I can almost taste the cup of assorted fruits
straight (pardon the term) from West Hollywood...
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:02:03am |
re: #220 BlueCanuck
*DING DING DING* Well done. Thanks for the fruitcup. I think it's my bed time now so later everyone. Stay scaly.
quiter!
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littleoldlady Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:02:22am |
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BlueCanuck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:03:48am |
re: #222 redc1c4
Yeah well, need some rest before I kill something.
/no liscence and no gun. think hunting season is over too. :(
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:04:26am |
re: #223 littleoldlady
Sure. (Why?)
'Night, Blue!
any one of several sick and perverse reasons...
(pick one. %-)
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:04:53am |
re: #225 BlueCanuck
Yeah well, need some rest before I kill something.
/no liscence and no gun. think hunting season is over too. :(
got house flies?
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:10:00am |
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littleoldlady Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:12:34am |
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:13:27am |
re: #232 littleoldlady
Does that mean "yes"?
i guess that all depends on what you mean by the word "yes"...
/white smoke
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:17:32am |
killed that sucker, didn't i?
i blame Blue for going to bed... the bastage.
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littleoldlady Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:21:01am |
Just remember, red, that's copyrighted material.
Royalties ---> Tuition
I hope you we make a bundle! :-)
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:26:23am |
re: #235 littleoldlady
Just remember, red, that's copyrighted material.
Royalties ---> Tuition
I hope
youwe make a bundle! :-)
if you have some other pics/graphics you wish to share, we could likely make even more money...
/white smoke
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:28:18am |
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:30:23am |
I have never seen this before laughed my ass off. Enjoy
Dear Diary...
December 8 - 6:00 PM. It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses Print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!
December 9 - We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the Whole World? Moving here was the best idea I've ever had. Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life.
December 12 - The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment. My neighbor tells me not to worry, we'll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful! Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again. l don't think that's possible. Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.
December 14 - Snow lovely snow! 8" last night. The temperature dropped to -20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish l wouldn't huff and puff so.
December 15 - 20 inches forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's silly. We aren't in Alaska, after all.
December 16 - Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, Which I think was very cruel.
December 17 - Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her. God I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.
December 20 - Electricity's back on, but had another 14" of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling. Took all day. Goddamn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow
blower and they're out. Might have another shipment in March. I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.
December 22 - Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white sh#t fell today, and it's so cold it probably won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to pee. By the time I got undressed, peed and dressed again. I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter; but he says he's too busy. I think the bugger is lying.
December 23 - Only 2" of snow today. And it warmed up to 0. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she nuts! Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she's lying.
cont..
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littleoldlady Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:30:24am |
What are we selling?
MNTS got quite proficient at PhotoShop in a relatively short time...
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:30:56am |
December 24 - 6". Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the s.o.b who drives that snow plow I'll drag him through the snow by his ankles and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish
shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.
December 25 - Merry frigging Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight. Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think shes a fricking idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wondeful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.
December 26 - Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.
December 27 - Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze, plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me 1,400 to replace all my pipes.
December 28 - Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. THE BITCH is driving me crazy!
December 29 - 10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?
December 30 - Roof caved in. I beat up the snow plow driver and he is now suing me for a million dollars not only the beating I gave him but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. 9" predicted.
December 31 - I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.
January 8 - Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?
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gregg Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:31:32am |
Anybody watch the Virginia Tech - Miami game last night?
I was flipping through and saw a Virginia Tech player score a touchdown and then he raised his arms and formed an "O" with his hands. I assumed his was doing the Obama salute. Anyway, he received a penalty for excessive celebration.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:39:41am |
re: #240 Erik The Red
December 24 - 6". Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the s.o.b who drives that snow plow I'll drag him through the snow by his ankles and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish
shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.December 25 - Merry frigging Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight. Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think shes a fricking idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wondeful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.
December 26 - Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.
December 27 - Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze, plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me 1,400 to replace all my pipes.
December 28 - Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. THE BITCH is driving me crazy!
December 29 - 10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?
December 30 - Roof caved in. I beat up the snow plow driver and he is now suing me for a million dollars not only the beating I gave him but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. 9" predicted.
December 31 - I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.
January 8 - Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?
it's going to be 90mumble* here tomorrow, and my pool is still ~80 or so... i'm gonna do some yard w*rk and then go swimming while i drink beer. grilled lamb chops, wild rice and freas green salad with home grown tomatoes for dinner with a Paso Zin out on the patio for dinner under the moon...
what can i say? i LOVE LA
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:43:09am |
re: #242 redc1c4
I'm in Durban S. Africa and we are going into summer great weather here. I was born in Cleveland and that just brought childhood memories.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:46:57am |
re: #243 Erik The Red
I'm in Durban S. Africa and we are going into summer great weather here. I was born in Cleveland and that just brought childhood memories.
born & raised in LA here... my dad is from Wisconsin, and lived all along the border with Canada growing up. my mom wants to move north, and dad just says, i'll buy you a house. he says he's never going to be cold again.
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:51:06am |
re: #244 redc1c4
Same here. I will be returning to the US next year and will be settling in central Florida. If I never see snow again it will be to soon. My kids love the stuff. I guess the wife and them can go on a ski trip by themselves.
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redc1c4 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:56:21am |
re: #245 Erik The Red
Same here. I will be returning to the US next year and will be settling in central Florida. If I never see snow again it will be to soon. My kids love the stuff. I guess the wife and them can go on a ski trip by themselves.
my joints hurt even when it's warm. i can't imagine being cold and trying to function...
speaking of which, i should try and get some sleep...
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littleoldlady Fri, Nov 14, 2008 2:59:44am |
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:00:45am |
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Crux Australis Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:07:16am |
What strange weather I've been having in Sydney. Just today it was 95F followed by a severe thunderstorm - electricity was out 30 minutes. And now it's freezing cold outside. Expecting snow on the weekend on the "higher" peaks.
Usually the really hot weather doesn't kick in until after Christmas and it's 2 - 2 1/2 months of tropical weather (with the chance of a few cooler days interspersed).
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:33:30am |
Its been very quiet on the dead threads the last couple of nights
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Luigi Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:34:54am |
Election over, BBC re-initiates two-minute hate against Israel
As Charles mentioned yesterday, now that the election is over and Obama is safely elected, the Pali war is heating up again. At the behest of Hamas, the press is kick starting the usual biased memes to re-groove the public mind back into the rote about Israel and her enemies, in case our brains got a little rusty during the election campaign when we weren't allowed to think about such distractions as the jihad.
The BBC is among the first to re-establish the correct line of thinking about who the heroes and villains are. In their effort today, note how they place Israel's response as a separate issue to the original Pali rocket attack which brought about Israel's response:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
Gaza air strikes and rocket fire
Israeli aircraft have fired missiles at targets in the northern Gaza Strip, injuring two Palestinian militants.Militants fired rockets into Israel on Friday.
No, that is not a second day lead. It is a biased interpretation.
The UN is of course playing ball right along with the media to get the game going again. Here the UN executes a well-timed forward pass to the BBC that eliminates no doubt about who we are to single out for public and political displeasure.
'Disaster'
John Ging, of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (Unrwa), said on Thursday that handouts for 750,000 Gazans would have to be suspended until Saturday at the earliest, and called Gaza's economic situation "a disaster".
Now that the MSM has done it's superlative job presenting in-depth coverage of President-elect Obama's background and record, someone has decided it is time for them to re-apply these same skills and standards to ME coverage again.
BBC does not note anywhere in its coverage -- ever! -- the odd coincidence that what they call the "five-month truce between the two sides", which was really Hamas' cessation of rocket attacks, just happened to coincide with the American election season to the liberal's advantage. We did here. McCain should have!
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:39:20am |
Morning all. The buzz among the elites in DC is over which exclusive and expensive private school Bambi and Michelle will send their kids to.
You know, it's really tough for middle class families to pay for piano lessons and school tuition.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:42:51am |
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:46:41am |
So I had a talk with a raving moonbat yesterday... And this just sums it up for me. I really can't talk to them anymore, my head hurts.
In regards to Obama and media bias, William Ayers, Wright, Acorn, Rezko, etc. -Right Wing smears against him
In regards to bipartisanship... Republicans need to support Obama. Bush "deserved" what he got the last 8 years.
In regards to Sarah Palin... She is "vacuous."
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:49:09am |
Good morning all! I love coffee.
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:49:31am |
Woke up thinking about Bambi's plan for a civilian defense force and Rahm Emmanuel's' idea of a mandatory three month youth service. If Bambi is thinking along the lines of the CERT program, it isn't a bad idea but it doesn't need to be as well funded as the DoD. For one thing it's volunteers.
If they are serious about mandatory service then they are looking at the draft, with a choice of military or civilain service. How do you sell that to the typical 18 year old? Or her parents?
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:50:01am |
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:51:01am |
Good Morning LGF.
The Canadian Liberal Party is having a leadership race, and the two front runners are Bob Rae (who is a former NDP (socialist) Premier of the Province of Ontario), and Michael Ignatieff (who is a former Harvard Human Rights Professor).
Truly a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:52:41am |
I have six shots of espresso almost every morning.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:53:00am |
re: #253 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning to you and others!
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:53:10am |
re: #263 NYCHardhat
Let me guess. You proved your Rethug credentials by making physical threats and ad hominem comments.
/kidding of course
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Luigi Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:53:12am |
unclassifiable -- Gaza has Israel on two sides, Egypt on one, and the sea on the fourth. The map in the article shows that well. Israel may control or influence the Egyptian crossing. That's never really made clear in this article or anywhere. The Palis seem to be able to blow out the apartheid fence that pens them in from Egypt when they wish to.
The real issue is, and it is only mentioned way down in the article, that Israel closes it's crossings when the rocket attacks flare up. There were more than 35 rockets in the last week. To me, that seems the minimal response anybody would make.
There is no good reason why Gaza should be at war with Israel. It's not their country. Less than 5 percent of Gazans ever lived in Israel. If Gaza were interested in any wholesome development, they could turn that place into Miami Beach, with or without Jews.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:54:28am |
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:56:05am |
re: #272 unclassifiable
I just stood there, jaw on the floor. I don't believe people are stupid, but I don't know where they get their logic.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:56:12am |
re: #263 NYCHardhat
Did you did Dennis Miller's Obama supporting comments a couple of nights ago? As for Palin: They keep building up their myth.
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Fibonacci Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:57:16am |
I think I found the source of the quotes attributed to Governor Palin. It turns out that were outright satirical fabrications by a blogger who clearly marked them as FAKE.
"Fake Governor Sarah Palin Quotes"
The blogger says:
Disclaimer: She didn't actually say these things - I made them up. But thanks for all the visits.
[Link: unbearablebobness.typepad.com...]
See also
[Link: www.snopes.com...]
With people like Matt Damon and the MSM satire is a threat to our democracy. Not satire itself, but the naive belief that is is true.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:57:33am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Too bad all bank robbers aren't this smart:
Bank robber threatens to file a complaint with management after finding empty cash drawers
YORK, Pa. (AP) _ Police say a central Pennsylvania man tried to rob a bank — but tellers' empty cash drawers thwarted his attempt. Springettsbury Township Police Lt. Scott Laird said the tellers were waiting for their cash drawers to be filled when a man entered a Susquehanna Bank branch Thursday morning and demanded money. The first teller fainted and the next two showed him their empty cash drawers.
Laird says the robber then threatened to file a complaint with bank management before leaving.
A customer at the drive-through called 911. A 48-year-old man was arrested about 10 blocks away and was held in the York County Prison in lieu of $25,000 bail. He was charged with criminal attempt to commit robbery.
I hope he goes through with his threat to file a complaint. I want to read the banks reply.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:57:43am |
re: #276 legalpad
No. I missed that. So Dennis Miller is a boat jumper? And is Palin a ditz? I don't know.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:58:42am |
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:58:48am |
It's so hard to yell at misbehaving students when I have a sore throat from a cold...
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:58:49am |
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:59:06am |
re: #266 unclassifiable
I am pro-coffee also.
Does that make me a racist?
Only if you like it light ;)
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Luigi Fri, Nov 14, 2008 3:59:14am |
I feel silly ranting about the Israel Pali war. I feel like I'm playing the script the media is handing me. In cooperation with Hamas, and with the liberal movement in America, Israel Pali news was blanked out during the entire election season under cover of a so-called truce. Hamas could have just such a truce anytime they wish if they would just stop dropping their munitions on the heads of innocent Israeli townsfolk.
I'm off. Have a nice day.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:00:10am |
re: #270 legalpad
I have six shots of espresso almost every morning.
OMG...are the walls of your office or house made of rubber to facilitate the bouncing that follows?
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:00:23am |
re: #276 legalpad
Do you mean on O Reilly? I think he was just wishing Obama to do well by the country out if respect for the office.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:00:50am |
re: #276 legalpad
Did you did Dennis Miller's Obama supporting comments a couple of nights ago? As for Palin: They keep building up their myth.
I wouldn't say that he exactly supported Obama. He simply said that Obama is soon to be our President and deserves the respect that goes along with the position. I believe he also said that we should watch him closely. Or was that O'Reilly.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:01:44am |
re: #279 NYCHardhat
No. I missed that. So Dennis Miller is a boat jumper? And is Palin a ditz? I don't know.
No. Miller is OK. He was just not being like the Bush-bashing Dems. About Palin. Palin of course not a ditz. The lefties keep repeating that she is so they can try to turn the false myth into "conventional wisdom".
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:01:47am |
I just finished listening to Michael Steele on FNC...I like him as a choice for RNC chairman!
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:02:41am |
re: #285 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
OMG...are the walls of your office or house made of rubber to facilitate the bouncing that follows?
No - bouncing - one gets conditioned. I'm an adrenalin junkie.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:03:07am |
re: #273 Luigi
Perfectly understandable retaliation by Israel. Restrained actually.
My point is that even if Israel could trust the Egyptian and the Gazans to conduct peaceful trade (they can't -- it's fantasy thinking) Egypt STILL will not provide investment (as well as Gaza's other Arab supporters) because they have always taken the attitude that the Gazan's are more useful as human bulldozers to push the Israelis out.
There are numerous article's on the Arab League's refusal to do anything other than insist on Israel's self-destruction and resettlement by the Gazan and West Bank Arabs.
There is no argument here from this quarter on Israel's actions.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:03:35am |
re: #290 legalpad
No - bouncing - one gets conditioned. I'm an adrenalin junkie.
I hope so...I'm having heart palpitations just thinking about all of that caffeine.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:04:21am |
re: #287 Ford_Prefect
I wouldn't say that he exactly supported Obama. He simply said that Obama is soon to be our President and deserves the respect that goes along with the position. I believe he also said that we should watch him closely. Or was that O'Reilly.
Yeah - you put it better.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:04:41am |
re: #281 goddessoftheclassroom
A nerf ball gun is a tempting suggestion but I guess that would make you the formergoddessoftheclassroom.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:05:04am |
re: #288 legalpad
That is one difference in nutty leftists and people like myself. I reiterated basically what Miller said. I didn't vote for him, but I wish him luck and support him. This was right before she said that Bush deserved the bashing he got the last 8 years.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:06:07am |
re: #281 goddessoftheclassroom
It's so hard to yell at misbehaving students when I have a sore throat from a cold...
Take a wooden yard stick and whack them instead?
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:08:38am |
re: #297 MandyManners
Take a wooden yard stick and whack them instead?
Good morning Mandy.
I went to Catholic schools for 12 years. That is exactly what they used to do. Either that or throw chalk or erasers.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:09:46am |
re: #290 legalpad
No - bouncing - one gets conditioned. I'm an adrenalin junkie.
I'd have to main-line diazepam.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:12:16am |
re: #275 NYCHardhat
Logic ain't got nothing to do with it.
Right now they are happy. They won. They beat us. We are losers.
And that is about it because 1/20/2009 all the good feelings in the world don't mean diddly.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:12:37am |
Uggg...my day has started off well. My 13yo just got a spanking, a spanking! For her smart ass mouth and her lecturing me on what she is and isn't going to do...I haven't spanked her in ages.
Here I am, fighting to breathe (I have a bad upper respritory infection) and she's giving me shit.
I am so sick of dealing with a kid with ADHD/ODD. Her dad, my Ex has no clue.
Sorry for the rant.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:13:24am |
re: #294 unclassifiable
A nerf ball gun is a tempting suggestion but I guess that would make you the formergoddessoftheclassroom.
She'd remain a goddess. So it'd be "goddessformerlyoftheclassroom" wouldn't it?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:13:32am |
re: #281 goddessoftheclassroom
It's so hard to yell at misbehaving students when I have a sore throat from a cold...
LOL. I once had teacher, Grade 4 or 5 IIRC, who used to whisper very loudly when she had a sore throat, sort of like a hissing noise.
It was amazing how quiet the class got.
We were all so startled and fascinated by this technique.
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yochanan Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:15:07am |
re: #301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
been there done that. thank g-d they grow out of it
human teenagers can be a royal pain in the ass
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:15:32am |
re: #299 MandyManners
I'd have to main-line diazepam.
I must produce it naturally. I can have a quad shot and go right to sleep.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:15:34am |
re: #302 fat bastard vegetarian
Of course. I standsit corrected.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:15:37am |
re: #301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Hey Pulchie!
It's what they do. My daughter was impossible from 11.5 - 13.5. Just turned 18, we haven't argued in years.
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alexknyc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:16:20am |
re: #21 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
It was a great game. And Belecheck not kicking that field goal on fourth down from the 24 yard line in the third quarter came back to bite him in the butt. Terrible call there.
I said the same thing to a friend-- always take the points when you can.
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razorbacker Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:16:22am |
Re: Deer Hunting
My wife made an interesting observation. "You're like some supervisor from hell. As long as the poor deer are taking care of business (caring for young, making new deer) you remain invisible. But let some poor schmuck wander by with his head in the clouds and picking at his nose and you terminate him."
My years in management are paying off.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:16:45am |
re: #300 unclassifiable
This is true. Unfortunately, anything tha bad happens on Bambi's watch will be placed squarely on the shoulders of the Bush Administration. I'm going to cancel my cable due to the media being the downfall of our society.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:17:24am |
re: #304 yochanan
been there done that. thank g-d they grow out of it
human teenagers can be a royal pain in the ass
I'm far easier on her than my mom was on me...which is probally a mistake, but my mom was sooo strict. My daughter, due to the ODD issue, is very aggressive...she really gets into my personal space.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:18:15am |
re: #309 razorbacker
Re: Deer Hunting
My wife made an interesting observation. "You're like some supervisor from hell. As long as the poor deer are taking care of business (caring for young, making new deer) you remain invisible. But let some poor schmuck wander by with his head in the clouds and picking at his nose and you terminate him."
My years in management are paying off.
LOL!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:19:13am |
re: #310 NYCHardhat
This is true. Unfortunately, anything tha bad happens on Bambi's watch will be placed squarely on the shoulders of the Bush Administration. I'm going to cancel my cable due to the media being the downfall of our society.
I'm keeping cable only for the benefit of season three of The Tudors and reception with rabbit ears sucks where I live.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:19:19am |
re: #292 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I hope so...I'm having heart palpitations just thinking about all of that caffeine.
Actually, there are advantages of espresso over regular coffee: less acid, less volume. You don't drink it all day like some do coffee. And all coffee is good for the liver and is an anti-oxidant.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:19:44am |
re: #301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I dinged you up.
Not that I thought your situation was great but just that I thought you needed a little support.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:20:21am |
re: #301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Uggg...my day has started off well. My 13yo just got a spanking, a spanking! For her smart ass mouth and her lecturing me on what she is and isn't going to do...I haven't spanked her in ages.
Here I am, fighting to breathe (I have a bad upper respritory infection) and she's giving me shit.
I am so sick of dealing with a kid with ADHD/ODD. Her dad, my Ex has no clue.
Sorry for the rant.
Sorry to heare of your trouble.
As a father of 3, all I can say is you are not alone.
My kids were convinced their parents were the dumbest thing on two shoes from about age 13 for quite a few years.
My 24 year old, who graduated college, got a job and her own bills to pay 2 years ago, has just become amazed in the last 18 months or so how smart we actually are.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:21:28am |
re: #289 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Right now they're debating the automaker bailouts. There is no debate. They CANNOT make money here with the UAW in place. They have created a system of management that sets as a business goal to "not lose too much money and create a panic" while maintaining this tireless facade that they are still juggernauts domestically.
Steve Forbes says that they're globally diversified enough to survive not doing business in North America.
I say let em' burn.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:21:28am |
re: #315 unclassifiable
I dinged you up.
Not that I thought your situation was great but just that I thought you needed a little support.
Thanks! I'm usualy much more in control with her, but today I'm so out of it...I haven't been this sick in years. Had to get a big, stinging shot in the bum yesterday and have to take HUGE horsepill size antibiotics etc for the next 10 days.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:21:33am |
re: #301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I spanked mys daughters at age 14. I can't remember why.
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yochanan Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:22:22am |
re: #311 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
i had 3 human male teenagers at one time one had adhd/with depression and other mental issues, and one had learning disabilities.
and offen it was like war between the three of them went through two sets of dinning room chairs (did not know they made good clubs did'yeah)
now all three of them are married two with kids and one with a kid on the way. now that they are all grown up it has gotten easier
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:23:01am |
re: #320 Bumr50
True love is sacrifice. I love my country.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:23:53am |
re: #317 Bumr50
Right now they're debating the automaker bailouts. There is no debate. They CANNOT make money here with the UAW in place. They have created a system of management that sets as a business goal to "not lose too much money and create a panic" while maintaining this tireless facade that they are still juggernauts domestically.
Steve Forbes says that they're globally diversified enough to survive not doing business in North America.
I say let em' burn.
I have to agree with you there...even though the markets and jobs in other, related industries will be affected.
The people in this country have to face the fact that there is nothing that the gov't can do to stave off the deep recession we are sliding into...it's best to let it work it's way out, as it always does.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:24:42am |
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:25:18am |
re: #316 3 wood
I know that when I was in highschool (15 yrs ago or so), liberal parents were a problem for MY parents.
Their "hands off", "open relationship," type of parenting lent itself to all of us going to their houses when we were up to no good.
And when they're in the majority I would argue that "EVERYBODY else's parents were cool with it!"
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:26:03am |
You guys are scaring me. Mine is only two and a half and she already is very independent. I have a feeling that she is going to be a real handfull in ten years.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:27:03am |
re: #323 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Someone needs to push back on the unions. It's going to be difficult with all these Democrats.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:27:23am |
re: #317 Bumr50
If they are headed there, let them go into bankruptcy and then reorganize. There is no one in the world that could take over any of those three companies and succeed with those labor contracts in place.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:27:44am |
re: #327 Bumr50
Someone needs to push back on the unions. It's going to be difficult with all these Democrats.
I know...unions ruin companies.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:27:55am |
re: #327 Bumr50
Someone needs to push back on the unions. It's going to be difficult with all these Democrats.
And some of the damn Republicans.
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yochanan Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:27:55am |
re: #324 legalpad
So, what other species have you raised?/
the question is are male teenagers HUMAN? At the time i was in doubt now that they are in there 20's they are almost human
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:28:08am |
Out of here.
Take care lizards.
Back on later (hopefully).
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:28:08am |
re: #325 Bumr50
There is a family that lives just two houses down from me that is that "liberal parents" house. There 15 year old daughter now has a one year old son.
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gregg Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:28:35am |
Heartache: Due to the recession, five British pubs are closing their doors every day (from Bloomberg news).
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:28:39am |
re: #323 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I have to agree with you there...even though the markets and jobs in other, related industries will be affected.
The people in this country have to face the fact that there is nothing that the gov't can do to stave off the deep recession we are sliding into...it's best to let it work it's way out, as it always does.
There are things they could do to make things better. They're not going to do them, though.
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x-wing Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:28:48am |
re: #326 Ford_Prefect
I remember when mine was two. What a handful he was then. My friends wouls tell me" it gets better when they get older."
/here I actually thought they meant the child would get better.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:30:02am |
re: #333 Ford_Prefect
There is a family that lives just two houses down from me that is that "liberal parents" house.
ThereTheir 15 year old daughter now has a one year old son.
Sorry. Not all the way through my tea yet.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:30:17am |
re: #334 gregg
Heartache: Due to the recession, five British pubs are closing their doors every day (from Bloomberg news).
Damn!
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:30:51am |
re: #333 Ford_Prefect
There is a family that lives just two houses down from me that is that "liberal parents" house. There 15 year old daughter now has a one year old son.
She was FOURTEEN when she had him? Who's the father?
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:31:12am |
re: #334 gregg
Heartache: Due to the recession, five British pubs are closing their doors every day (from Bloomberg news).
BAILOUT!
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:31:32am |
re: #331 yochanan
the question is are male teenagers HUMAN? At the time i was in doubt now that they are in there 20's they are almost human
lol! Right. I've raised five of them, almost. One of them had about 90 friends of his come over and they were like locusts - they ate everything, drank everything. I called them the Langoliers.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:31:48am |
re: #334 gregg
Heartache: Due to the recession, five British pubs are closing their doors every day (from Bloomberg news).
Can we bail out pubs and nothing else?
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:31:54am |
re: #335 legalpad
There are things they could do to make things better. They're not going to do them, though.
Nope. And the sad thing is that they will end up bankrupt anyway.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:32:08am |
re: #339 MandyManners
She was FOURTEEN when she had him? Who's the father?
Most likely another randy 14 yo
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:32:24am |
re: #339 MandyManners
She was FOURTEEN when she had him? Who's the father?
Another 14 year old. Don't worry though...they are going to stay together, she is going to go to college and he is going to play basketball professionally, so everything will turn out alright. ///
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:32:36am |
Look for the market to open sightly down today. The futures are pointing down slightly this morning. Also, the pattern has been for a sell off the day after a rally as the short sellers go back to hammering stocks again. I see no reason for them to not do that today.
In looking at the market, you have to understand that the dynamics have changed from what they were before.
To begin with, a lot of people who used to be buyers when the market was dropping are now gone. With all of the lay offs, Lehman Brothers closing, and so many people cashed out of the market and standing on the sidelines, there is very little buying pressure now when things are headed south. There are a whole lot fewer buyers to step in front of the train, so to speak.
Second, you have so much bad news out there that the short sellers are just hammering these stock prices. That's a big reason why you saw the market jump up yesterday about 900 points for the low point, once it turned you had all these short seller scrambling to close out their positions.
Congrats to Obama for the rise in the DOW yesterday. Now the market is only down about 1,100 points since he was elected.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:33:11am |
re: #339 MandyManners
She was FOURTEEN when she had him? Who's the father?
And why isn't he in jail for statutory rape. If that had been my daughter, he would be and my daughter would be in a convent school.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:33:20am |
re: #342 NYCHardhat
God, I hate liberals.
I tend to not hate - however much I oppose - but I think Al Franken is an exception.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:33:26am |
re: #342 NYCHardhat
God, I hate liberals.
As a musician most of my friends are liberals and I am afraid that over the next four years I will lose the last shred of patience I have with some of them.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:33:35am |
re: #334 gregg
Heartache: Due to the recession, five British pubs are closing their doors every day (from Bloomberg news).
What about the mice?
Some Guinness was spilled on the barroom floor
when the pub was shut for the night.
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
and stood in the pale moonlight.
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor,
then back on his haunches he sat.
And all night long you could hear him roar,
'Bring on the fuckin' cat!'
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:34:10am |
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:34:25am |
re: #326 Ford_Prefect
My two girls wil turn 14 in less than two months. So far, it's mostly good. Lots of moodiness, and the bathrooms are overrun with products, but we aren't ready to sell them to the gypsies.
Yet.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:34:41am |
re: #347 Ford_Prefect
Another 14 year old. Don't worry though...they are going to stay together, she is going to go to college and he is going to play basketball professionally, so everything will turn out alright. ///
Well, good to know they have plans.
*sigh*
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:34:57am |
re: #344 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Nope. And the sad thing is that they will end up bankrupt anyway.
Right. Oh - maybe they'll shrink the national debt./
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:34:57am |
re: #347 Ford_Prefect
Another 14 year old. Don't worry though...they are going to stay together, she is going to go to college and he is going to play basketball professionally, so everything will turn out alright. ///
Dont forget, it takes a village to raise a child. So you conservatives didnt do your part to help those hard working liberals raise their daughter. So now you will get a second chance to help them raise thier grand child. Don't mess it up now. ( I hope no one notices my sarcasm)
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:34:59am |
re: #329 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Here in PA, we have what's known as a "closed shop" state. I took a job at a local grocery store a few years back, and as soon as I was hired they started taking union dues out of my $8.00 an hour paycheck.
I told them I wanted to strike for higher wages and they laughed at me.
I've since informed the union that since I no longer work there, they can remove me from their rolls.
I still get a statement six years later for my $7.00 worth of pension that I accrued.
The parking attendants here in Pittsburgh have a union, and I was even approached by a Food & Beverage local when I waited tables.
I guess my point is that it's just unspoken "reality" here and all through the rust belt that the union is your friend.
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yochanan Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:35:10am |
i had twins and one that was 2 years older than the twins. 3 boys.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:35:11am |
re: #351 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
And why isn't he in jail for statutory rape. If that had been my daughter, he would be and my daughter would be in a convent school.
Before he was born the girl's father told me that they had been dating for about a year and a half. And he saw nothing wrong with that.
*pounding my head against my desk
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:36:27am |
re: #356 MandyManners
Is it even legal?
The baby is there whether or not it is legal. Thank heavens they didnt suggest she abort the baby. That would have been worse.
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gregg Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:37:42am |
re: #340 Ford_Prefect
BAILOUT!
Instead of giving the money directly to the bars, issues beer stamps (kind of like food stamps) to the public that can only be used to buy beer/cocktails at bars.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:38:01am |
re: #355 NYCHardhat
I do have a couple of very liberal friends who are very smart and thoughtful. They are the incredibly rare examples of liberals who have thought through their political views almost all the way to reality. We can have discussions and agree to disagree.
But I've also got a couple that are just damn idiots. I don't have discussions with them because I can talk them into a corner logically speaking in less than three minutes and then things get testy.
They think I've wandered off the reservation big time.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:38:08am |
re: #365 shanec99
The baby is there whether or not it is legal. Thank heavens they didnt suggest she abort the baby. That would have been worse.
There have been some good ads out about not aborting people. The fire-fighter woman one, for example. Excellent way to deal with the issue.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:38:25am |
re: #360 shanec99
Dont forget, it takes a village to raise a child. So you conservatives didnt do your part to help those hard working liberals raise their daughter. So now you will get a second chance to help them raise thier grand child. Don't mess it up now. ( I hope no one notices my sarcasm)
I have been doing my best to keep my daughter away from their son. That is my part in raising him. Because if he turns out anything like his parents and comes around my daughter I will have to start sharpening my axe, and that wouldn't be good for his growth into a responsible adult.
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yochanan Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:38:27am |
I remember complaining to a famly friend who has 3 teenaged girls at the time i had 3 teenaged boys and i said boys were harder and she answered well with 4 women in the house and they could all have PMS at the same time MY ANSWER WAS YOU WIN
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:38:33am |
re: #363 Ford_Prefect
Before he was born the girl's father told me that they had been dating for about a year and a half. And he saw nothing wrong with that.
*pounding my head against my desk
OMG...DATING at 14? My daughter, who turns 14 in February, is already asking to wear make up and likes a boy. She knows that she will not be allowed to date until she's 16. Make up is a big no as well. She thinks I'm too strict.
I am considering putting her on The Pill though, as I can't control what she does when she isn't home.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:38:58am |
re: #353 freedombilly
I'm a music lover and haven't been able to chat in many of those rooms lately. They truly believe that Obama has Great Ideas.
Artists don't annoy me near as much as activists. And with them I can always take the conversation back to music.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:39:21am |
re: #365 shanec99
The baby is there whether or not it is legal. Thank heavens they didnt suggest she abort the baby. That would have been worse.
They didn't know until she about six months pregnant. The daughter claims she didn't know either.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:39:42am |
re: #368 freedombilly
Those smart liberals I call independents in my social circle.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:40:56am |
re: #371 yochanan
I remember complaining to a famly friend who has 3 teenaged girls at the time i had 3 teenaged boys and i said boys were harder and she answered well with 4 women in the house and they could all have PMS at the same time MY ANSWER WAS YOU WIN
LOL...I'm the eldest of three girls, so it was me, my mom and my two sisters at home. Poor daddy...but we also spoiled him.
Now, it's me and my two girls. My 9 yo is on the same cycle as me and her older sister. My boyfriend knows when to bring chocolate and slide it carefully in the door.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:41:09am |
re: #373 Bumr50
The Sonic Youth show in Battery Park this past July 4th was very good. Although is was an Obama slobfest, it was good.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:42:59am |
re: #373 Bumr50
What blows my mind about musicians is the number of people whom I have just met who just start talking about politics and assume that I agree with their liberal views (especially recently). They just start talking about how evil Bush is or about how Obama is going to lower sea levels or anything else. But they do it in a very condescending tone that is completely looking down on any opposing view point which they assume is not me.
I have taken to sometimes saying "Since we're talking about politics what religion are you?" That usually gets an uncomfortable chuckle and then they shut up.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:43:02am |
Gotta run! Time to dress for work. It's also Mass day for the 9yo, so she has the formal uniform to dress in. Hay ride tonight though with her Brownie troop...yummm Someores!
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:43:09am |
re: #372 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
OMG...DATING at 14? My daughter, who turns 14 in February, is already asking to wear make up and likes a boy. She knows that she will not be allowed to date until she's 16. Make up is a big no as well. She thinks I'm too strict.
I am considering putting her on The Pill though, as I can't control what she does when she isn't home.
It is a tough spot. You hate to go The Pill route because it is like giving her permission, but on the other hand if you figure she will do it anyway then it avoids a terrible situation. God I am not looking forward to those years.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:44:44am |
Good day all. Gotta make some money for the Obama supporters.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:45:04am |
re: #381 NYCHardhat
Good day all. Gotta make some money for the Obama supporters.
Spread the wealth!
/
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:45:54am |
re: #380 Ford_Prefect
It is a tough spot. You hate to go The Pill route because it is like giving her permission, but on the other hand if you figure she will do it anyway then it avoids a terrible situation. God I am not looking forward to those years.
I know...it's a conundrum. Both of the girls know my views on sex outside of marriage, but that didn't stop me and thank God my parents were open with me and smart enough to make sure I knew the consequences. I'm doing the same with my girls, even though my youngest thinks it's gross when I talk about womens things.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:46:13am |
CNN is doing a segment on what pieces of Obama swag will be worth somewhere down the line.
It is early to have my stomach upset.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:46:33am |
My[ 9 yo says Hi, BTW.
Now I really have to get dressed. Later all!
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:47:26am |
I mentioned this yesterday, but I;ll repeat it here FWIW:
3 Wood's five step plan to prosperity
1. Open exchange desk for the mortgage backed securities. This will provide a clear, transparent, market based price on these securities so finally we can all know what these things are worth. I can get a price for any publicly traded stock, I should be able to get a price for these things too. I know this is in the works.
2. Cut capital gains tax and corporate earnings tax to zero for the foreseeable future. Capital would flood back into the market and corporations would start expanding, and employment would jump. Foreign capital would shift to the US and the dollar would jump in value as well.
3. Set up a payback schedule for every company that got a bail out to pay back every dime within 5 years. Every company that does not make that goal will have the senior management fired and replaced for 1 year. If they are not paid up current at thend of year 6, fire that management group and so forth.
4. No bail out for the auto makers. Let the 3 auto makers declare chapter 11 bankruptcy and restructure themselves. That would let them renegotiate their agreements, unload excess staff, fire the senior management that screwed this up, and come back leaner and competitive. The plant and equipment is there. Someone will use it.
5. Fire the head of the SEC Cox today and start putting handcuffs on the people who committed fraud in all this. There has to be an accountability brought back to the system.
By the way, the timing of the market surge yesterday was very closely aligned to when Moonbatr Dodd said that he doubted the Democrats had the votes to bail out the auto makers.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:47:29am |
re: #355 NYCHardhat
My favourite artists are the Pink Floyd (RIP Richard) and it irks me to no end that Roger Waters, the guy that played the giant concert celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall, bashes Bush and the US unapologetically in"Leaving Beirut" and supports Obama and the same type of socialism that eventually leads to big heavily guarded walls.
In an interview on the Making of The Dark Side DVD, Waters states that his philosophy is that we're all basically the same person that we were when we were two or three years old. I'm not sure if success at a young age reinforces this belief that no doubt leads to a liberal way of thinking, but it got me to thinking that many successful artists probably have absolutely no idea what work is, and wealth has always been there for them.
I'm seeing more and more Deadheads and jamband lovers coming over to our side though.
I'm more of a Dave Gilmour guy anyway.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:49:34am |
re: #357 Jim in Virginia
My two girls wil turn 14 in less than two months. So far, it's mostly good. Lots of moodiness, and the bathrooms are overrun with products, but we aren't ready to sell them to the gypsies.
Yet.
Two words of advice:
Get ready.
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tappin52 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:50:09am |
re: #341 legalpad
lol! Right. I've raised five of them, almost. One of them had about 90 friends of his come over and they were like locusts - they ate everything, drank everything. I called them the Langoliers.
I remember that movie.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:50:35am |
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:50:39am |
re: #386 3 wood
Good ideas. Copied it. But I don't think the thieves are finished with our national economy yet.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:51:22am |
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Jim in Virginia Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:52:00am |
re: #380 Ford_Prefect
My dad was brilliant.When I was 16 he told me that either he had raised me to know right from wrong and act accordingly, in which case he had nothing to worry about; or he hadn't, and at that point coud not do anything about it.
I'm sure it did not stop him from worrying but there is a point where your kids have to make their own decisions. And then live with them.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:52:09am |
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yochanan Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:52:21am |
ann dunwoody is nominated to be the first female 4 star general
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:52:48am |
re: #378 freedombilly
I honestly think that much of this is the responsibility of the far left's trashing of George Bush than any particular philosophy. I think most people are just parroting what they've heard from people they've held in high esteem. I've been saying a lot lately that not since Nixon has an American name been so intentionally slandered to connote "evil" than Bush. And the most disgusting thing is that I don't think many of the people behind it even feel that way on an honest level. They're just social manipulators.
Maybe I'm paranoid.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:55:52am |
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Here is a beautiful calendar that will be in today's Australian newspaper
The photos are just gorgeous, and I just thought I'd share them with you!
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:55:54am |
re: #397 Bumr50
I honestly think that much of this is the responsibility of the far left's trashing of George Bush
Yes. They sacrificed pursuing actual solutions to this indulgence. They helped prolong our military activities and trash the economy with this.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:56:44am |
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:57:31am |
re: #394 Jim in Virginia
I just wish that more people that find themselves in the spot that my neighbors are in would consider adoption. The child would definitely be better off, and I believe that the mother would be too. I know a couple of women who have done this and have gone on to live happy, fulfilled lives. On the other hand I know couple of women who went the abortion route and they are as screwed up as they can be. As for single motherhood, I think that for some that is fine and commendable (I am not talking about divorce situations here), but for a 14 year old girl it is just not in anyone's best interest.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:57:40am |
re: #398 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Here is a beautiful calendar that will be in today's Australian newspaper
The photos are just gorgeous, and I just thought I'd share them with you!
Got a beautiful country there!
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 4:59:30am |
re: #398 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Here is a beautiful calendar that will be in today's Australian newspaper
The photos are just gorgeous, and I just thought I'd share them with you!
Very nice. I would love to visit your lovely country one day.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:00:25am |
re: #398 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Here is a beautiful calendar that will be in today's Australian newspaper
The photos are just gorgeous, and I just thought I'd share them with you!
I'm moving to Tasmania!
Thanks for sharing. Gorgeous.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:00:26am |
I just watched the entire Ayers piece. That guy is a condescending, elitist, smug, crack smoking terrorist. Holy shit.
And did you hear that in the afterword of the re-release of his memoirs that he refers to Obama as a "neighbor and family friend"?
Puke.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:00:38am |
re: #401 Ford_Prefect
but for a 14 year old girl it is just not in anyone's best interest.
If we had a true national community instead of lying partisans dominating the media, people would be so much better informed and would have such a better spirit. This would be more rare and people would more easily see the best solutions when they did have this problem.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:00:41am |
Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.
— Aldous Huxley
Thats probably my favorite so far, Charles.
I wonder if a liberal would be able to comprehend that statement.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:00:44am |
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:01:41am |
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:02:36am |
re: #401 Ford_Prefect
Why didn't they have her on birth control? Depo-provera?
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yochanan Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:03:00am |
re: #398 aussiemagpie
nice pics oz is great my father was in oz during ww2 and a couple of years ago i found out i have cousins who are aussie.
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:03:05am |
re: #398 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Here is a beautiful calendar that will be in today's Australian newspaper
The photos are just gorgeous, and I just thought I'd share them with you!
Beautiful, and a nice way to welcome the world first thing in the AM - at least for those of here in the USA - you guys down there in 'tomorrowland' are sleeping..?
Is it true Australia has spiders as big as dinner plates & that they make giant webs between trees?
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:03:48am |
re: #398 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Here is a beautiful calendar that will be in today's Australian newspaper
The photos are just gorgeous, and I just thought I'd share them with you!
Breathtaking photos. I would love to visit.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:04:50am |
re: #407 legalpad
If we had a true national community instead of lying partisans dominating the media, people would be so much better informed and would have such a better spirit. This would be more rare and people would more easily see the best solutions when they did have this problem.
Exactly. Organizations like Planned Parenthood need to be called what they are, Pro-Abortion, not Pro-Choice. If they were truly Pro-Choice than adoption would be a big part of their message, instead it is all about abortion anytime anyplace.
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Fibonacci Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:04:55am |
Gay Terror-- Activists Send White Powder to Mormon TemplesGay Terror-- Activists Send White Powder to Mormon Temples
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
What has become of the "Get in their Face" Left?
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:06:26am |
re: #397 Bumr50
I honestly think that much of this is the responsibility of the far left's trashing of George Bush than any particular philosophy. I think most people are just parroting what they've heard from people they've held in high esteem. I've been saying a lot lately that not since Nixon has an American name been so intentionally slandered to connote "evil" than Bush. And the most disgusting thing is that I don't think many of the people behind it even feel that way on an honest level. They're just social manipulators.
Maybe I'm paranoid.
I think that is fair and accurate.
Watch any MSM news broadcast for an hour, if you can stomach it. At some point it will degrade into a "I hate Bush" fest, where the commentators actually cheer each other on to say ever more nasty things.
But you better make sure to give Obama the benefit of all doubt.
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tappin52 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:06:48am |
Even though Bill Ayers may not have personally placed the bombs, in the eyes of the law isn't he just as guilty for conspiring?
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:07:13am |
I'm trying to share a comment with ABC about their interview with th "professor." It keeps saying invalid verb. I say "invalid verb" them!
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:07:21am |
re: #419 tappin52
Even though Bill Ayers may not have personally placed the bombs, in the eyes of the law isn't he just as guilty for conspiring?
He's got a lot of white guilt that's for sure.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:07:30am |
re: #416 Fibonacci
What has become of the "Get in their Face" Left?
Because Obama won.
It's open season on conservatives and especially people of faith now.
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marge45b Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:08:07am |
re: #307 fat bastard vegetarian
My 12 year old has it, I call it the "mouth." She has to counter everything I say.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:08:10am |
re: #411 MandyManners
Why didn't they have her on birth control? Depo-provera?
Because she was a 'good girl' who wouldn't do that sort of thing. Her friends might, but she wouldn't. After all, that is what she told her mother during those 'open' discussions. I told my wife long before any of this happened that there was no way she wasn't sexually active. I see the way she and her friends dress. Hookers would envy their outfits. She still dresses like that, btw.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:08:13am |
re: #419 tappin52
Even though Bill Ayers may not have personally placed the bombs, in the eyes of the law isn't he just as guilty for conspiring?
Yes.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:08:40am |
re: #419 tappin52
Even though Bill Ayers may not have personally placed the bombs, in the eyes of the law isn't he just as guilty for conspiring?
Yes, but his daddy was pres of Com-Ed, so he bought hisself some justice.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:08:47am |
re: #425 Ford_Prefect
Because she was a 'good girl' who wouldn't do that sort of thing. Her friends might, but she wouldn't. After all, that is what she told her mother during those 'open' discussions. I told my wife long before any of this happened that there was no way she wasn't sexually active. I see the way she and her friends dress. Hookers would envy their outfits. She still dresses like that, btw.
Is she on BC now?!
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:09:20am |
re: #427 Taqyia2Me
Yes, but his daddy was pres of Com-Ed, so he bought hisself some justice.
The Feds screwed the pooch on that one by not following the laws on surveillance.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:09:41am |
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:09:46am |
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:10:02am |
Fucker calls it "the politics of fear" when he was the one blowing up shit!
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:10:26am |
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:10:31am |
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:12:23am |
re: #431 Taqyia2Me
Inside much moreso than outside. The face of evil.
His skin looks unnaturally tight. I wonder if he's had a face-lift.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:13:19am |
re: #434 freedombilly
The ear rings make him look very creepy.
He probably thinks it makes him look hip.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:13:24am |
re: #432 MandyManners
Fucker calls it "the politics of fear" when he was the one blowing up shit!
All the most evil people are pious, self-righteous.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:13:56am |
re: #403 Bumr50
Beautiful! Can I come over?
Of course! And with our $ at $0.65 to yours, it's in your favour for your spending too
And of course, we love you now that Obama is in
/ sarc
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:14:33am |
re: #432 MandyManners
Fucker calls it "the politics of fear" when he was the one blowing up shit!
My favorite line, when commenting if the bombings had killed someone, was something to the effect of "if someone had actually been killed it would have affected us and them profoundly".
I would say that killing someone could definitely be argued as affecting them.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:14:35am |
re: #437 legalpad
All the most evil people are pious, self-righteous.
CBBHO is the most pious and self-righteous politician I've seen in my life.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:14:36am |
re: #435 MandyManners
His skin looks unnaturally tight. I wonder if he's had a face-lift.
Vain too? Absolutely!
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:15:05am |
re: #440 freedombilly
My favorite line, when commenting if the bombings had killed someone, was something to the effect of "if someone had actually been killed it would have affected us and them profoundly".
I would say that killing someone could definitely be argued as affecting them.
People WERE killed.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:15:13am |
re: #404 Ford_Prefect
Very nice. I would love to visit your lovely country one day.
You will be made very welcome :-)
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:15:21am |
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:15:25am |
re: #434 freedombilly
He never had to grow up.
Personally, just looking at him brings to mind a little loser who would never have been anybody without a "cause."
His ego depends on his politics.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:15:54am |
re: #441 MandyManners
CBBHO is the most pious and self-righteous politician I've seen in my life.
That is interesting. Shit.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:16:18am |
re: #428 MandyManners
Is she on BC now?!
I couldn't tell ya'. I will let you know when kid number two arrives.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:16:23am |
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:16:46am |
re: #441 MandyManners
CBBHO is the most pious and self-righteous politician I've seen in my life.
And now their ilk are working to destroy capitalism, Capitolism too.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:17:07am |
re: #443 MandyManners
People WERE killed.
But he has rewritten the narrative. You obviously haven't read up!
And don't you bring facts into this.
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tappin52 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:17:10am |
I wonder how quickly the world will hate us again when Obama's policies bankrupt us and we can't send all of that spare change to every corner of the earth. And when ther next natural disaster does not turn on the humanitarian faucet of American people's generosity.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:17:19am |
re: #405 MandyManners
I'm moving to Tasmania!
Thanks for sharing. Gorgeous.
Wineglass Bay is on my list of places to see in Tassie - it's a cold place though in winter, with the cold winds straight from the Antarctic
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:17:52am |
Jindal's on Fox talking about remaking the GOP.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:18:19am |
Jindal is on Fox and Friends. I hope Charles is still asleep so he doesn't start his day with that guy on his television.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:18:23am |
re: #453 tappin52
I wonder how quickly the world will hate us again when Obama's policies bankrupt us and we can't send all of that spare change to every corner of the earth. And when ther next natural disaster does not turn on the humanitarian faucet of American people's generosity.
That's why voters NEED to be informed of a candidate's charitable giving, or, in the case of dems, lack thereof.
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Crux Australis Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:19:06am |
hey, aussiemagpie. where do you live again?
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:20:00am |
re: #412 yochanan
nice pics oz is great my father was in oz during ww2 and a couple of years ago i found out i have cousins who are aussie.
The Americans saved this country in WW11, thanks to people like your Dad
Have you been in touch with your cousins?
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:20:14am |
re: #452 freedombilly
But he has rewritten the narrative. You obviously haven't read up!
And don't you bring facts into this.
Ayers
"Besides. It was their own fault. They should have left when the bomb threat was called in. What do you mean the call was never made? Shit...knew we forgot something."
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:20:26am |
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:21:07am |
re: #423 MandyManners
Ayers is one ugly fucker.
Scruffy and unkempt - translates as contempt for the interviewer, and for the audience.
Nothing changes: he is of the ilk who confuse their fame with significance.
*spit*
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:21:13am |
Morning Lizards.
Notice how Ayers has that same "looking down the nose, head tilt" that Obama has perfected. Must be something they learned in those board meetings.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:21:16am |
re: #462 Ford_Prefect
Ayers
"Besides. It was their own fault. They should have left when the bomb threat was called in. What do you mean the call was never made? Shit...knew we forgot something."
All that LSD didn't help their judgement, I'd say.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:21:54am |
re: #466 Beach Lover
Morning Lizards.
Notice how Ayers has that same "looking down the nose, head tilt" that Obama has perfected. Must be something they learned in those board meetings.
Minimum 4 years of that shit.
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:22:07am |
re: #415 Ford_Prefect
Exactly. Organizations like Planned Parenthood need to be called what they are, Pro-Abortion, not Pro-Choice. If they were truly Pro-Choice than adoption would be a big part of their message, instead it is all about abortion anytime anyplace.
Actually, Planned Parenthood does provide adoption counseling and referrals to agencies that handle adoption.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:22:24am |
re: #461 aussiemagpie
The Americans saved this country in WW11, thanks to people like your Dad
Have you been in touch with your cousins?
World War Eleven? Man have I been out of touch. / :-)
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:22:53am |
I wonder if the 2 Numnuts that were reported by the GF's parents for there Obama plot will be released with Ayer's as precident. Since being an unsuccessful bumbling murderer is obviously not the same as being a murderer. And in Bill Ayer's defence he only really killed his own members since tehres nothing actually linking him the the robbery in which 4 people were killed by his group (2 guards for the armored truck 1 cop 1 bystander if i remember the details properly).///
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:22:55am |
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:23:27am |
re: #413 GGMac
Beautiful, and a nice way to welcome the world first thing in the AM - at least for those of here in the USA - you guys down there in 'tomorrowland' are sleeping..?
Is it true Australia has spiders as big as dinner plates & that they make giant webs between trees?
Thanks! Most are sleeping, but then there are night owls like me, tapping away at keyboards all over OZ :-)
I posted an article and pic a few weeks ago of a spider eating a bird in tropical Far North Queensland - and yes the spider was huge!
They're not quite so big here in Sydney though!
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:23:37am |
re: #468 Taqyia2Me
Not to beat a dead horse but I'd rather have that than whatever Paulson does.
They should have him talk to the inmates at Gitmo. While it's still there.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:23:46am |
re: #469 JustMyView
Actually, Planned Parenthood does provide adoption counseling and referrals to agencies that handle adoption.
Any stats on how many adoption counseling and referrals they've made, in proportion to other "choices" they offer?
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:24:41am |
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rightside Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:24:56am |
re: #473 aussiemagpie
I was in Sydney in '03, although spent it all downtown. Very nice people, had a wonderful time.
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:25:43am |
Adoption counseling at Planned parenthood is all about adopting a proabortion attitude.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:25:46am |
re: #414 bellamags
Breathtaking photos. I would love to visit.
I think a charter flight should be organised for all interested lizards to come here for a holiday :-)
Us Aussie lizards will be tour guides
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:26:12am |
re: #472 reine.de.tout
Gak! Been a few days. How are you doing:?
Very well. Had to take a 6 hour product course along with all my regular work. Bogged me down.
How are you on this fine Friday?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:27:16am |
re: #481 midwestgak
Very well. Had to take a 6 hour product course along with all my regular work. Bogged me down.
How are you on this fine Friday?
Doing great!
I have a hair appt today. I love getting my hair done so I don't have to do it. always puts me in a good mood.
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:27:45am |
Hillary as Sec of State? Guess he decided the old keeping your enemies closer thing has some merit, uh?
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:28:24am |
re: #475 reine.de.tout
Any stats on how many adoption counseling and referrals they've made, in proportion to other "choices" they offer?
Did you notice that one sentence which said that adoption leaves the mother feeling worse than they had thought they would? Worse than abortion would have?
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doriangrey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:28:54am |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:29:11am |
I think these 'fake racism' stories are very telling. There must not be enough real white vs. black racist stuff going on these days, people have to make it up so they can "create a reaction" as the guy in this story says.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:29:20am |
re: #482 reine.de.tout
Doing great!
I have a hair appt today. I love getting my hair done so I don't have to do it. always puts me in a good mood.
LOL. Know what you mean. :)
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:30:18am |
re: #475 reine.de.tout
Any stats on how many adoption counseling and referrals they've made, in proportion to other "choices" they offer?
I don't see any stats of either kind on their website. Presumably, though, if a pregnant girl or woman is uncertain about what course to take, they would discuss both adoption and abortion w. her. So one consultation would address both possibilities.
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doriangrey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:30:29am |
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:30:29am |
re: #469 JustMyView
Actually, Planned Parenthood does provide adoption counseling and referrals to agencies that handle adoption.
From the link:
Here are some things to consider if you are thinking about adoption.
True False
1. I can accept not being my child's primary parent. [ ] [ ]
2. Adoption feels like what I ought to do, not what I want to do. [ ] [ ]
3. I don't feel I can fulfill all my child's needs and parent, now. [ ] [ ]
4. I'm choosing adoption because abortion scares me. [ ] [ ]
5. The child's father will approve of adoption. [ ] [ ]
6. No one is pressuring me to choose adoption. [ ] [ ]
7. I'll know my child will be treated well. [ ] [ ]
8. I can cope with the feelings of loss that I may have. [ ] [ ]
9. I have people in my life who will help me through the pregnancy and adoption. [ ] [ ]
10. I respect women who place a child for adoption. [ ] [ ]
OK. Let's look at the highlighted questions. Number two implies that she is only doing it out of a feeling of guilt. Number four implies that she is doing it only because she is scared of abortion. Number five implies that she is doing it only because the father would approve, not because she thinks it is right. Number six, what about the feelings of loss after an abortion.
I'm sorry, but I doubt Planned Parenthood's motives here.
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:32:02am |
Yeah, I Noticed all the legal speak(legalese) in the adoption portion too. Probably intended to scare those persuing adoption as a means out of it with the impression of legal fees and loss of rights crap thrown in. Like the wouldn't lose the option of visiting their kids after an abortion.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:34:18am |
re: #449 Bumr50
Thanks! Are your parents liberals?
/sarc
LOL! My Dad was definitely a very conservative thinker, after being in prison in Austria in the early 30s for being an anarchist !
My Mum had no time for any politicians of any type :-)
And I'm not a basement kiddie, an oldie *sigh* thinking about what colour my walker is going to be, and will it have a GT stripe
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:36:05am |
re: #495 aussiemagpie
LOL! My Dad was definitely a very conservative thinker, after being in prison in Austria in the early 30s for being an anarchist !
My Mum had no time for any politicians of any type :-)
And I'm not a basement kiddie, an oldie *sigh* thinking about what colour my walker is going to be, and will it have a GT stripe
Just make sure it has a spot for your I-Pod and a holster for your gun.
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:36:43am |
Of course the MSM will report the man who made the threats based off the fake Facebook page he had. It will be posted all over that a white republican has been threatening to kill over 3000 black Americans only because Obama won.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:36:47am |
re: #460 Crux Australis
hey, aussiemagpie. where do you live again?
Hi Crux, I'm in the Liverpool area and in Danna Vale's electorate of Hughes
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:37:02am |
re: #492 Ford_Prefect
OK. Let's look at the highlighted questions. Number two implies that she is only doing it out of a feeling of guilt. Number four implies that she is doing it only because she is scared of abortion. Number five implies that she is doing it only because the father would approve, not because she thinks it is right. Number six, what about the feelings of loss after an abortion.I'm sorry, but I doubt Planned Parenthood's motives here.
These are just questions---things to think about. One can answer them either way. If you look through the Planned Parenthood site, you'll see that they have similar "things to think about" lists w/ regard to abortion and keeping the child.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:38:32am |
re: #470 Ford_Prefect
World War Eleven? Man have I been out of touch. / :-)
Yes, where have you been?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:39:34am |
re: #484 midwestgak
Did you notice that one sentence which said that adoption leaves the mother feeling worse than they had thought they would? Worse than abortion would have?
I didn't notice it but I'm not surprised.
Placing a child for adoption is very painful process.
But in the many adoptions these days there is communication with the adoptive parents and the baby, pictures, visits - and of course, the knowledge that you did the right thing.
I'm going to reveal something personal. I am 55 years old, and have some health issues. 2 years ago, when my daughter was 15, she got pregnant.
She finished the school year (the school worked with us on this), and because she was too young to be raising a child, and I was too old and decrepit.
After the initial shock, and with much prayer, my daughter decided to place the baby for adoption. My daughter chose the couple. We have regular communications with them, and just visited with them last weekend.
The couple is glowingly happy - told us their life is now complete. The baby is beautiful and a really happy baby. They love him as much as we do, and they are mature, settled and financially stable enough to give him a great life.
We have taken some flak for 'giving away' the baby, but we didn't. We planned the baby's future. And it was the right decision. But the day we put the baby into that couple's hands was one of the most painful days of my life. But the right thing to do. And we can live with ourselves.
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:39:48am |
Planned Parenthood may claim they push adoption, but I'd like one of the young ladies here to walk into a clinic ask about Adoption and tell us whether they were talked to about adoption or talked into aborting.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:40:17am |
re: #490 JustMyView
I don't see any stats of either kind on their website. Presumably, though, if a pregnant girl or woman is uncertain about what course to take, they would discuss both adoption and abortion w. her. So one consultation would address both possibilities.
"Presumably".
I would like to see the actual numbers.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:41:23am |
re: #477 rightside
I was in Sydney in '03, although spent it all downtown. Very nice people, had a wonderful time.
Hi, glad you had a nice time and next time give us a call! We'll shout you a beer or three :-)
Or wine, or coffee...
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:42:27am |
re: #504 reine.de.tout
"Presumably".
I would like to see the actual numbers.
Well, they're not on the site, so you'll have to find another way to get them.
Meanwhile, congratulations to you and your daughter for the thoughtful approach you took to dealing w/ her pregnancy. I'm sure it was very difficult and, in some ways, remains so, but it sounds like you handled a tough situation w/ grace and courage.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:43:52am |
re: #506 JustMyView
I still cry.
But after seeing them, it's tears of joy, now, for that precious precious baby boy.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:44:01am |
re: #496 Ford_Prefect
Just make sure it has a spot for your I-Pod and a holster for your gun.
LOL! And a drink holder...
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:45:03am |
So anyone heard any news on if BHO is still considering Richardson for his cabinet. I don't really care what position as long as it gets him out of New Mexico really. Or is Hillary gonna take his spot in hte Cabinet and leave us stuck with him?
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vermicelli Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:45:41am |
Are they really that big of tools or just purposeful hypocrits? Time to start supporting Falkland to Argenitina big time.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:46:02am |
re: #511 rancher
So anyone heard any news on if BHO is still considering Richardson for his cabinet. I don't really care what position as long as it gets him out of New Mexico really. Or is Hillary gonna take his spot in hte Cabinet and leave us stuck with him?
I can't see Hillary taking that job. I just really can't.
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:46:59am |
Living in New Mexico and seeing all the pregnant kids nowadays im waiting on Planned Parenthood to start recommending parents spay/neuter their kids like the SPCA does for pets.
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nyc redneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:47:50am |
re: #502 reine.de.tout
{reine} you and your daughter had the strength and courage to make a heartbreakingly difficult decision. it sounds like it was the best one for everybody involved.
i'm so glad you get to stay in contact w/ the baby.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:47:55am |
re: #502 reine.de.tout
Good for you and your daughter. I am sure that she will grow up and live a wonderful life, knowing full well that she did the right thing by her child.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:48:01am |
re: #502 reine.de.tout
There is nothing to say except you have my admiration and respect for being so caring, wise, and selfless...I'm having a little cry now BTW
{Reine}
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:48:16am |
But if Billary is Sec State Obama can keep her overseas and out of his hair for the vast majority of his Presidency
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:48:42am |
re: #508 reine.de.tout
I still cry.
But after seeing them, it's tears of joy, now, for that precious precious baby boy.
I'll keep you and your daughter in my thoughts. How is she doing, by the way?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:49:36am |
re: #512 vermicelli
Are they really that big of tools or just purposeful hypocrits? Time to start supporting Falkland to Argenitina big time.
The Brits always dad this little jewish problem.
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Spenser (with an S) Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:49:51am |
re: #490 JustMyView
re: #475 reine.de.tout
Any stats on how many adoption counseling and referrals they've made, in proportion to other "choices" they offer?
I don't see any stats of either kind on their website. Presumably, though, if a pregnant girl or woman is uncertain about what course to take, they would discuss both adoption and abortion w. her. So one consultation would address both possibilities.
Sorry, JustMyView. PP is wholly and completely in the abortion bag. They "earned" over $1B dollars last year (" " because they're a non-profit) with over $300M coming from the taxpayers. They are the leading provider of abortions in the country and spent $10M on electing candidates who are 100% pro-abortion. This is sad window-dressing.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:49:59am |
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:50:38am |
Aye reine good choice with adoption at least that way you know the child had a chance at life and since you were able to pick the couple and are given the opportunity to visit at least theres still that. Had the Baby been aborted both you and your daughter would likely have thought about it every day. Some say an abortion is just like a miscarriage. I however reply that miscarriages aren't usually the result of planning and premeditation.
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Harry Tuttle Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:50:48am |
re: #418 3 wood
Of the three moonbats I have discussed this most with at work, one hates Dick Cheney, one hates Bush and the other hates Palin.
On Palin he justifies this by asking what magazines the reads (Katie Couric interview). I can get nothing of substance when pressed, yet the hatred is there.
The bush hater wont even engage in discussion because he knows he has no idea what he is talking about.
And the Cheney hater is simply a troofer.
This is what elected O and they have no idea what they have done.
Mark Levin is wrong, there aren't 56 million of us, there are far more its just that a large number of them have no idea what they voted for. All they were doing is parroting the anti-bush mantra.
And they are sucking us all down the rat hole with them.
Interesting times we live in huh chaps?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:51:22am |
re: #519 rancher
But if Billary is Sec State Obama can keep her overseas and out of his hair for the vast majority of his Presidency
She would be moron to take it. Sec. of States often become marginalized and very forgettable. Also once she gives up her Senate seat, she will serve at the pleasure of The President. So kinda like Hair today gone tomorrow?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:51:53am |
re: #520 JustMyView
I'll keep you and your daughter in my thoughts. How is she doing, by the way?
She is doing very very well, particularly after the visit, where she saw how happy the baby is and the couple, as well. They are wonderful - not perfect, but good people.
She had pre and post-adoption counseling. IMPORTANT! Through Catholic Charities, which did a superb job.
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:52:22am |
re: #502 reine.de.tout
Bless you and your family. If only more could see the plus side of adoption. Unfortunately, there are too many that see the options of abortion and keeping the baby as the only choice. Many I know are forced to go to foreign countries because the wait is so long here. and we all know that it has been glamorized to have children without fathers. This is one hope I have for Obama. Now that he no longer has to kowtow to African Americans, he will address the huge problem that community has with black males and marriage, responsibility, etc.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:52:25am |
re: #525 Harry Tuttle
Stupid is as stupid does.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom."
Friedrich August von Hayek
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:53:18am |
re: #524 rancher
Aye reine good choice with adoption at least that way you know the child had a chance at life and since you were able to pick the couple and are given the opportunity to visit at least theres still that. Had the Baby been aborted both you and your daughter would likely have thought about it every day. Some say an abortion is just like a miscarriage. I however reply that miscarriages aren't usually the result of planning and premeditation.
You are correct about miscarriages not being the result of planning and premeditation. I know people who have had abortions - they never really get over it.
The shock of the situation is such that you just want it to be done with. I think that's when people make abortion decisions.
You gotta get thru the shock.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:53:46am |
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Harry Tuttle Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:55:56am |
re: #530 Bumr50
Yes. What worries me is not the parallel we see with the Reagan election or the Depression but the parallels I can see with the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.
Adapt yourselves mates!
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rancher Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:55:58am |
Thanks Red I was asking mostly in reference to Hillary as Sec State that was previously a job Richardson was looking at allthough now it looks like sec Interior on your new chart.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:56:20am |
re: #492 Ford_Prefect
Google Margret Sanger. See what her idea of p^2 was.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:56:22am |
re: #529 Beach Lover
I respectfully disagrree.
This is one hope I have for Obama. Now that he no longer has to kowtow to African Americans (says who?)
he will address the huge problem that community has with black males and marriage, responsibility, etc.
(doubtful, this is a conservative principle.)
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Spenser (with an S) Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:56:34am |
re: #528 reine.de.tout
She is doing very very well, particularly after the visit, where she saw how happy the baby is and the couple, as well. They are wonderful - not perfect, but good people.
She had pre and post-adoption counseling. IMPORTANT! Through Catholic Charities, which did a superb job.
You and your daughter are heroes. She is obviously brave and thoughtful. I pray that the sadness she will probably always feel will be poignant, knowing that she did the best thing for the child. I'll hug my 3 adopted nephews and nieces a little harder this Thanksgiving hearing this story.
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:57:01am |
re: #528 reine.de.tout
She is doing very very well, particularly after the visit, where she saw how happy the baby is and the couple, as well. They are wonderful - not perfect, but good people.
She had pre and post-adoption counseling. IMPORTANT! Through Catholic Charities, which did a superb job.
Glad to hear she is doing so well. I'm sure that's in large part due to your support.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:57:24am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine Friday?
yipee! looking forward to a 3 day weekend..
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:57:33am |
re: #533 Sharmuta
{reine}
thanks.
The same year, both of my parents became suddenly and seriously ill and died within 4 months of each other. the baby was born the day after my father's funeral. talk about an eventful year!
Gotta say, hanging out here during that time was helpful. So thank you to all of you!
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:58:20am |
re: #525 Harry Tuttle
Brazil... Terrorist plumbers... Dark movie... We might all be living that one during the up coming administration.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:58:43am |
re: #538 Spenser (with an S)
You and your daughter are heroes. She is obviously brave and thoughtful. I pray that the sadness she will probably always feel will be poignant, knowing that she did the best thing for the child. I'll hug my 3 adopted nephews and nieces a little harder this Thanksgiving hearing this story.
Daughter now 17, making much better decisions about her life and activities.
Silver linings everywhere . . .
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:58:50am |
{reine}
you're a good woman reine..nice story
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:58:58am |
re: #540 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine Friday?
yipee! looking forward to a 3 day weekend..
Dancing tonight?
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Harry Tuttle Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:59:11am |
re: #537 midwestgak
I respectfully disagrree.
This is one hope I have for Obama. Now that he no longer has to kowtow to African Americans (says who?)
he will address the huge problem that community has with black males and marriage, responsibility, etc.
(doubtful, this is a conservative principle.)
Doubtful you say? Thats absurd, look at the history. The left cares not one whit about raising anyone out of poverty and there actions prove it. There interests lie in the opposite.
There is no chance in h311 this is what the O wants to do.
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Harry Tuttle Fri, Nov 14, 2008 5:59:59am |
re: #542 Perplexed
Brazil... Terrorist plumbers... Dark movie... We might all be living that one during the up coming administration.
We're all in this together.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:00:33am |
OT - I'm thinking about selling Obama memorabilia.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:00:35am |
re: #546 Harry Tuttle
Doubtful you say? Thats absurd, look at the history. The left cares not one whit about raising anyone out of poverty and there actions prove it. There interests lie in the opposite.
There is no chance in h311 this is what the O wants to do.
He's in it for himself. Screw the voters. Doubly screw those who voted against him.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:01:00am |
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:01:04am |
re: #522 Spenser (with an S)
Sorry, JustMyView. PP is wholly and completely in the abortion bag. They "earned" over $1B dollars last year (" " because they're a non-profit) with over $300M coming from the taxpayers. They are the leading provider of abortions in the country and spent $10M on electing candidates who are 100% pro-abortion. This is sad window-dressing.
Well, certainly, they provide services that are hard to get elsewhere, and they are interested in ensuring that those services remain legal. No surprise there. There are many agencies that provide adoption services, and there's also the possibility of placing kids for adoption through lawyers (i.e., without an agency of any sort being involved). It would hardly make sense for them to duplicate those services.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:01:14am |
re: #531 reine.de.tout
I have no experience myself, but have read that women after they have an abortion think of their child on what would have been their first birthday, day dream about feeling their little hand holding onto her finger, wonder what they would look like at age two, wish she could throw them a birthday party at age three. On and on it goes. Dreadful.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:01:55am |
re: #545 reine.de.tout
Dancing tonight?
no..Remember my friends who's house burnt down Sunday night?
I bought them a laptop and we are going to visit them in the motel
and just spend some time with them...
I have a sneaky feeling well go out saturday night.
Hopeless social butterflys i guess.
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Erik The Red Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:01:58am |
re: #535 rancher
Chart is from RedState doesn't look like much change is coming to D.C look how many ex Clinton people are there.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:02:00am |
re: #552 midwestgak
I have no experience myself, but have read that women after they have an abortion think of their child on what would have been their first birthday, day dream about feeling their little hand holding onto her finger, wonder what they would look like at age two, wish she could throw them a birthday party at age three. On and on it goes. Dreadful.
That's what I've heard, too. It doesn't ever end.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:02:23am |
re: #553 HoosierHoops
no..Remember my friends who's house burnt down Sunday night?
I bought them a laptop and we are going to visit them in the motel
and just spend some time with them...
I have a sneaky feeling well go out saturday night.
Hopeless social butterflys i guess.
Party Animals!
How's your wife?
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:02:42am |
re: #540 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine Friday?
yipee! looking forward to a 3 day weekend..
Mornin Hoosier - how do you like the drizzle?
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:04:38am |
re: #556 reine.de.tout
Party Animals!
How's your wife?
Mom is all about planning for Jordans wedding on the 28th...
She has way too much energy..
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:04:39am |
re: #546 Harry Tuttle
Doubtful you say? Thats absurd, look at the history. The left cares not one whit about raising anyone out of poverty and there actions prove it. There interests lie in the opposite.
There is no chance in h311 this is what the O wants to do.
huh? That's what I implied.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:05:27am |
Well, good morning all y'all - from a moderate (56 degrees going up to 65) rainy Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:05:52am |
re: #552 midwestgak
I have no experience myself, but have read that women after they have an abortion think of their child on what would have been their first birthday, day dream about feeling their little hand holding onto her finger, wonder what they would look like at age two, wish she could throw them a birthday party at age three. On and on it goes. Dreadful.
I don't think there are any data to support those claims. Most women who have abortions do very well psychologically. There's actually quite a lot of research on this topic. You might want to check out this summary.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:05:56am |
re: #557 midwestgak
Mornin Hoosier - how do you like the drizzle?
{Gak}
what's up? The rain won't hit here for another hour I heard...
Then I'll be singing in the rain..just singing in the rain...
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Harry Tuttle Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:06:17am |
re: #561 midwestgak
huh? That's what I implied.
I understand that, I just thought it needed more emphasis.
Not that I wouldn't be very pleased to be proven wrong on this... we shall see I guess.
Cheers guys gotta go work for the bailout.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:06:27am |
re: #559 jorline
Hi Jorline. How did it go at the Rheumy's?
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Spenser (with an S) Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:06:40am |
re: #551 JustMyView
re: #522 Spenser (with an S)
Sorry, JustMyView. PP is wholly and completely in the abortion bag. They "earned" over $1B dollars last year (" " because they're a non-profit) with over $300M coming from the taxpayers. They are the leading provider of abortions in the country and spent $10M on electing candidates who are 100% pro-abortion. This is sad window-dressing.Well, certainly, they provide services that are hard to get elsewhere, and they are interested in ensuring that those services remain legal. No surprise there. There are many agencies that provide adoption services, and there's also the possibility of placing kids for adoption through lawyers (i.e., without an agency of any sort being involved). It would hardly make sense for them to duplicate those services.
Well, I figured you knew that. I was just stating that them pretending to be in favor of adoption is just for public consumption in case their tax status is ever questioned (any congressmen listening?).
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SecondComing Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:07:51am |
I saw Bill Ayers on Good Morning America when I was getting ready for work. He was on there as smug and unrepentant as ever. The anchor pressed him and said something to the effect "you have to see how a guy running for president..how your association would be questioned." To paraphrase: He said he absolutely rejected that assertion. Just because we had coffee, served an a few boards together and helped him with his political career. That's just quilt by association. unbelievable. Someone surely will get a full transcript later. Through the whole thing I just kept thinking "what does it matter now, a little late guys".
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:08:13am |
re: #565 HoosierHoops
{Gak}
what's up? The rain won't hit here for another hour I heard...
Then I'll be singing in the rain..just singing in the rain...
I have a 3 day weekend planned too.
Bless you for giving to your friends in need. (hoosier)
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:08:32am |
Good morning...group hug.
{riegn}
{gak}
{HH}
{RW}
Hell...hugs for everyone.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:09:27am |
re: #573 jorline
Good morning...group hug.
{riegn}
{gak}
{HH}
{RW}Hell...hugs for everyone.
Thanks, it's a chilly morning.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:10:06am |
re: #572 midwestgak
I have a 3 day weekend planned too.
Bless you for giving to your friends in need.
(hoosier)
fixed it
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turn Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:10:45am |
Morning all, TGIF!
Surprise, surprise, surprise: from Ayres interview on GMA:
"Despite Obama's attempt to portray their relationship as a distant one, Ayers, in a new afterward to his book "Fugitive Days," describes Obama as a "neighbor and family friend."
That is not the Ayres Obama knew, I'm confused!
/
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:11:43am |
re: #568 midwestgak
Hi Jorline. How did it go at the Rheumy's?
Long and interesting. I will send you an email about the visit. I do have some questions for you. The short answer is he's not ruling out RA, but he thinks it's Psoriatic Arthritis.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:12:12am |
re: #540 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine Friday?
yipee! looking forward to a 3 day weekend..
Morning HH.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:12:26am |
Wow... I see that Bill Ayers basically said on GMA that he was wrongly smeared and that Obama and the 'guilt by association' is a terrible thing...
The usual and expected crap...
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turn Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:12:54am |
oh, and he still thinks they didn't do enough terrorism either:
"Frankly, I dont think we did enough, just as today I dont' think we've done enough to stop these wars," he said.
spitt
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doriangrey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:13:17am |
re: #523 reine.de.tout
re: #516 nyc redneck
Thank ya'll.
Once we got over the shock, we took the approach that the activity that got her pregnant wasn't what we wanted her to be engaging in (no kidding), but once it was a fact - the condition of being pregnant is not "sinful" or evil in any way.
Not to be insensitive, but look around you. There are 6 billion plus human beings on planet earth. We all got here the exact same way. Sex is about as normal and natural an event as there is, and the whole point of sex is to get the female pregnant. Yes we engage in it for recreational purposes, but the whole point is reproduction.
Because of the complex economic society we live in today, many wise people have taken to discouraging young people from reproducing before they are financially capable of supporting their offspring, this view however wise and prudent it may be, is physiologically at odds with what tens of thousands of years of evolutionary biology has hardwired into human beings.
I commend you for the wisdom of your actions, but find it a bit disturbing that you were shocked that your daughter behaved in a totally natural human manner. I could see you being disappointed that she failed to follow your advice and teaching. But to be shocked that she followed perhaps one of the strongest of all biological imperatives?
I have little doubt that your daughter is a good person, she is after all your daughter, and I have no doubt that you have taught her well. At the end of the day however she is her own person, and as she gets older she will make more and more of her own decisions and will have to live with the consequences of those decisions.
That you continue to love her and encourage her to make wise decisions shows the nature of your character, your character will shape her character and that is a good thing.
Damn it and now I have to run off to work.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:13:21am |
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:13:24am |
re: #569 HoosierHoops
TGIF Jorline!
Yes...TGIF. A weekend full of my sons basketball and a baseball tournament.
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Intrepid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:14:01am |
Morning, Ya'll. It's a rainy/drizzly and chilly Friday morn here in the Mid TN boonies. Mom and I have an appointment with a social worker who is coming out to the house at 10 to interview us for a financial assistance program that would help pay for adult day care for mom. It's a private non-profit, so I'm glad it wouldn't be pulling any more resources from the Gov.
From what she's said so far, they would pay most of the costs of two full 8-hour days per week for mom's Adult day care fees, and then mom would only have to contribute $58 per month. That would mean this non-profit group would be chipping in upwards of $200 per month. Woot!
Need more coffee before the lady comes...
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:14:09am |
re: #573 jorline
Hey there jorline! How are ya today my friend?
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:14:20am |
re: #574 midwestgak
Thanks, it's a chilly morning.
Going to 85 here today, but much cooler over the weekend.
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turn Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:15:04am |
re: #581 ChicagoBlue
HA!
BFFs!
Oh, had to wiki that
Best Friends Forever
My comprehension of Internet slang really sucks.
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:16:43am |
re: #587 realwest
Hey there jorline! How are ya today my friend?
Always good to see you, RW. I will send you an email later about my doctor visit yesterday...short version see my #578.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:18:21am |
re: #583 doriangrey
Yes, you run. Faster.
How watered down can you get? When morality is forgotten you can justify anything. Natural human evolution my ass when children are having children in a civil society.
Shock is the reaction of a moral heart. Some of us still have one.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:18:33am |
re: #588 jorline
Going to 85 here today, but much cooler over the weekend.
It'll be 72 here in Dallas today. Got up and put on a long sleeve shirt this morning, then switched to short sleeves. Tonight's low is supposed to be 41, and in the mid 30s Sunday morning. Our average first freeze date is November 22nd.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:18:42am |
re: #578 jorline
Long and interesting. I will send you an email about the visit. I do have some questions for you. The short answer is he's not ruling out RA, but he thinks it's Psoriatic Arthritis.
Ah - could you send me a copy? I'm very interested and concerned for you .. .
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:19:04am |
re: #564 JustMyView
Not in my experience. 23 years of being a Pastor's wife and counseling young women. Husband also the head of a crisis pregnancy center. Family members. Friends.
Lots of pain out there. Don't minimize it.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:19:06am |
Oh yeah, good morning all. Lotta weird threads yesterday.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:19:11am |
re: #492 Ford_Prefect
From the link:
Here are some things to consider if you are thinking about adoption.
True False
1. I can accept not being my child's primary parent. [ ] [ ]
2. Adoption feels like what I ought to do, not what I want to do. [ ] [ ]
3. I don't feel I can fulfill all my child's needs and parent, now. [ ] [ ]
4. I'm choosing adoption because abortion scares me. [ ] [ ]
5. The child's father will approve of adoption. [ ] [ ]
6. No one is pressuring me to choose adoption. [ ] [ ]
7. I'll know my child will be treated well. [ ] [ ]
8. I can cope with the feelings of loss that I may have. [ ] [ ]
9. I have people in my life who will help me through the pregnancy and adoption. [ ] [ ]
10. I respect women who place a child for adoption. [ ] [ ]OK. Let's look at the highlighted questions. Number two implies that she is only doing it out of a feeling of guilt. Number four implies that she is doing it only because she is scared of abortion. Number five implies that she is doing it only because the father would approve, not because she thinks it is right. Number six, what about the feelings of loss after an abortion.
I'm sorry, but I doubt Planned Parenthood's motives here.
Wow, this is an eye-opener. I worked for a crisis pregnancy center that focused on emotionally supporting the mother. Some choose to adopt, most choose to keep the baby. They knew we were not an abortion provider. The Birthright tag line is ...every child has the right to be born.
Obviously PP isn't making money if the baby is being kept or adopted.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:19:24am |
re: #573 jorline
Good morning...group hug.
{riegn}
{gak}
{HH}
{RW}Hell...hugs for everyone.
OK Jorline..group hugs!
LOL
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:19:28am |
re: #590 jorline Well I'll look forward to receiving that e-mail but...what is
"Psoriatic Arthritis"?
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:20:13am |
re: #584 midwestgak
I'll look for it.
See #484 upthread.
I will trace the comments back to get the whole gist of your comment in a bit.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:20:19am |
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:20:40am |
re: #594 mama winger
Not in my experience. 23 years of being a Pastor's wife and counseling young women. Husband also the head of a crisis pregnancy center. Family members. Friends.
Lots of pain out there. Don't minimize it.
Mornin Mama - thanks for pushing back.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:21:04am |
re: #571 SecondComing
Let me see if I understand Ayers' thinking...
1. Ayers admits he engaged in bombing and wishes he did more.
2. Ayers claims his bombings were "education" not terrorism.
3. Ayers admits he had a long and close association with Obama.
4. Ayers insists that to mention his association with Obama is to engage in guilt by association.
So in Ayers' mind, bombing is not terrorism and associating with somebody is not associating.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:22:38am |
re: #585 jorline
Yes...TGIF. A weekend full of my sons basketball and a baseball tournament.
There really ought to be a law against playing baseball in Nov.
And the high is going to be 85? I hate you!
/ LOL
//snow saturday here is what the word is..
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:23:20am |
re: #592 Ward Cleaver
It'll be 72 here in Dallas today. Got up and put on a long sleeve shirt this morning, then switched to short sleeves. Tonight's low is supposed to be 41, and in the mid 30s Sunday morning. Our average first freeze date is November 22nd.
Good morning, Ward. They're saying we'll get into the mid 40's at night and in the low 70's over the weekend. I lived in Allen during the 83 freeze...that was cold!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:23:26am |
re: #583 doriangrey
I commend you for the wisdom of your actions, but find it a bit disturbing that you were shocked that your daughter behaved in a totally natural human manner. I could see you being disappointed that she failed to follow your advice and teaching. But to be shocked that she followed perhaps one of the strongest of all biological imperatives?
I have little doubt that your daughter is a good person, she is after all your daughter, and I have no doubt that you have taught her well. At the end of the day however she is her own person, and as she gets older she will make more and more of her own decisions and will have to live with the consequences of those decisions.
That you continue to love her and encourage her to make wise decisions shows the nature of your character, your character will shape her character and that is a good thing.
Damn it and now I have to run off to work.
Dorian - I was not shocked that she was sexually active. It is natural to humans, and the teen years are the most difficult. Teens have been having sex since the beginning of time; people used to be married at that age, but that's no longer the case.
It was simply a surprise, I'm very open with my daughter and had told her often that if she believed she was going to become sexually active, to let me know so I could get her to a doctor for the proper safeguards.
But she didn't. The 'shock' was mostly trying to figure out, where do we go from here? How does she finish school? What sort of derision will she face (the final answer: NONE).
She's a good kid, always was.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:23:28am |
re: #602 realwest
Hi ya Hoops! How's it going today?
doing wonderful today RW.. hope today finds you well and absent of any errands to run.
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:23:35am |
re: #594 mama winger
Not in my experience. 23 years of being a Pastor's wife and counseling young women. Husband also the head of a crisis pregnancy center. Family members. Friends.
Lots of pain out there. Don't minimize it.
I'm sure there are women who've had abortions who regret it, but, heck, there are women who've had kids that regret it. I don't minimize it, but I do think it's important to look at systematically collected data, and the people who show up in a pastor's office are not a random sample of people who've had abortions. They're people who have problems, people who might have had problems no matter how they handled the pregnancy or even if they'd never gotten pregnant. Again, there's a lot of high-quality research on this topic, summarized at the link I gave above.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:23:53am |
re: #583 doriangrey
Not to be insensitive, but look around you. There are 6 billion plus human beings on planet earth. We all got here the exact same way. Sex is about as normal and natural an event as there is, and the whole point of sex is to get the female pregnant. Yes we engage in it for recreational purposes, but the whole point is reproduction.
Because of the complex economic society we live in today, many wise people have taken to discouraging young people from reproducing before they are financially capable of supporting their offspring, this view however wise and prudent it may be, is physiologically at odds with what tens of thousands of years of evolutionary biology has hardwired into human beings.
I commend you for the wisdom of your actions, but find it a bit disturbing that you were shocked that your daughter behaved in a totally natural human manner. I could see you being disappointed that she failed to follow your advice and teaching. But to be shocked that she followed perhaps one of the strongest of all biological imperatives?
I have little doubt that your daughter is a good person, she is after all your daughter, and I have no doubt that you have taught her well. At the end of the day however she is her own person, and as she gets older she will make more and more of her own decisions and will have to live with the consequences of those decisions.
That you continue to love her and encourage her to make wise decisions shows the nature of your character, your character will shape her character and that is a good thing.
Damn it and now I have to run off to work.
Temper tantrums and grabbing things away from each other are also very natural tendencies. Each of these things can and should be modified into more civilized behaviors that are more useful and more powerful for the individual.
And let me say, that table manners seem to take forever to "stick."
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:24:04am |
re: #600 HoosierHoops
Hi Ford? What's up today?
Oh, just trying not to get any work done. How about you?
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:24:28am |
re: #593 reine.de.tout
Ah - could you send me a copy? I'm very interested and concerned for you .. .
You're on my list reine...thank you for your concern. ;)
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:25:22am |
Shucks - gotta run!
Thanks to all of you for support and understanding.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:25:40am |
For anybody unfamiliar with how the Chicago Democratic Machine works, here is a good example.
Rep. Danny Davis was found not guilty Wednesday of "driving left of center" in Lawndale last November -- a ticket Davis had blamed on racial profiling.
The Traffic Court trial did little to shed light on what happened when Chicago Police curbed Davis' black sedan and ticketed him for an alleged lane violation. The Chicago Police officer who spoke to Davis during the traffic stop did not appear in court. That officer's partner, Police Officer Laura Kuhlmann, testified that Davis was driving a gray car on 16th Street and crossed the double yellow line when turning left onto Kedzie.
Cook County Judge Martin Coughlin kept discussion focused on Davis' alleged left turn crossing the center line and refused to hear testimony from Kuhlmann about a second time she claimed Davis' vehicle drifted over the double yellow lines. Davis remained silent.
Coughlin dismissed the charge, saying "of course" Davis crossed the double yellow line -- that's what happens when you make a left turn.
Last November, Davis made headlines for filing a complaint with police claiming the traffic stop was an example of racial profiling.
After court Wednesday, Davis said he hoped the white officers who ticketed him simply had made a mistake and that he wasn't stopped for "driving while black."
"I hope this was not a case of racial profiling," Davis said. "All I know is that I was driving a black car. The officer said I was driving a gray car. . . . The officer said I made a left turn off 16th Street onto Kedzie. And I've never been on 16th Street."
Danny, Davis, former City Alderman, is one of the leading candidates to be appointed by Governor Blagojevich to fill Obama's empty Senate seat.
As you can see from the story, the Cook County Judge carefully controlled the testimony allowed in court, and gave Davis a walk. Davis then slandered the cops involved alleging racism.
This is par for the course in Chicago. Late great columnist Mike Royko (who interestingly enough once tried to punch me out by a cab stand on Michigan Avenue, but that is a long story), used to write about this stuff often. Royko often wrote about how the "fix was in" in Chicago.
My guess is the officers involved will get punished by being transferred to the sticks for the rest of their careers, banished to working the midnight shift and chasing humping teenagers out of parks.
This is how the Chicago Machine works. They control the courts, they control the elections, they control the media (you have to dig to find this story) it's all about who you know and who you politically support. They are used to having it all their way.
The PR Dept. at City Hall has a slogan, calling Chicago "The City that Works".
For those of us who lived there, we would alter that to say "the city that jerks together, works together".
Get used to this folks, some of these folks are now coming to Washington.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:25:43am |
re: #564 JustMyView
I don't think there are any data to support those claims. Most women who have abortions do very well psychologically. There's actually quite a lot of research on this topic. You might want to check out this summary.
Wikipedia? Give me a break. Don't think a lot of them don't hurt. There have been stdies that showed higher rates of depression and suicide among post-abortive women. As for "choice"? Most of them don't feel they had a choice, as they were pressured by boyfriends, husbands, or families to have abortions. Abortion is all about abortionists making money, plain and simple.
I was very disappointed how all those black churches supported Obama, knowing that millions of black babies have been aborted over the years. Because of abortion, the number of Hispanics have overtaken blacks in the population.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:25:44am |
re: #594 mama winger
Let me see if I understand the liberal mindset with regards to killing human beings:
Women who kill their unborn child are not bothered by it at all.
US soldiers who kill terrorists in Iraq are traumatized by it.
Executing convicted murderers is wrong.
Is that about right?
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:25:58am |
re: #608 JustMyView
I do think it's important to look at systematically collected data,
I think it's important to minister to people in physical and psychological pain, but that's just my view.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:26:43am |
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Intrepid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:26:44am |
re: #603 Kenneth
Let me see if I understand Ayers' thinking...
So in Ayers' mind, bombing is not terrorism and associating with somebody is not associating.
That justification is reminiscent of Robert Spencer's for his support of Vlaams Belang. He supports their anti-jihad stance, but as for their other little pesky anti-semitism, well, he has never said he supports that.
The problem with Obama associating with Ayers is that Ayers contributes nothing positive to education - only the goal of raising little communists - so the whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:26:47am |
re: #596 DistantThunder
Obviously PP isn't making money if the baby is being kept or adopted.
I don't think they're making money providing abortions either. If they were, they wouldn't be dependent on donations.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:26:53am |
re: #610 Ford_Prefect
Oh, just trying
notto getanywork done. How about you?
Got a email last night that the roll-out of Oracle R12 is being delayed.
So I'm really a happy camper..gives me another 6 weeks before i face the firefight that is Oracle...
Remember..It's not a bug, It's a feature.
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turn Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:26:55am |
re: #594 mama winger
Not in my experience. 23 years of being a Pastor's wife and counseling young women. Husband also the head of a crisis pregnancy center. Family members. Friends.
Lots of pain out there. Don't minimize it.
I have close personal friends, one had an abortion and the other gave her baby up for adoption. I think we've broached the subject only one time many years ago and I can still feel their pain.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:26:58am |
re: #596 DistantThunder
Wow, this is an eye-opener. I worked for a crisis pregnancy center that focused on emotionally supporting the mother. Some choose to adopt, most choose to keep the baby. They knew we were not an abortion provider. The Birthright tag line is ...every child has the right to be born.
Obviously PP isn't making money if the baby is being kept or adopted.
Damn right. First, they make money selling women birth control. Then, when the birth control fails (for whatever reason), they make money off the abortion.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:27:05am |
re: #608 JustMyView
What about the aborted human beings, do they suffer post-abortion problems? Any studies on that?
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:27:18am |
re: #607 HoosierHoops
LOL! Nope, no errands to run - other than to cart the overstuffed garbage bag to the dumpster type place here in the apartment complex and I'm putting that off as looong as I can!
How's about yourself? Y'all freezing up there yet?
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:27:42am |
re: #598 realwest
Well I'll look forward to receiving that e-mail but...what is
"Psoriatic Arthritis"?
Psoriatic Arthritis More info than you'll want, but the first page explains it pretty well.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:28:27am |
re: #616 mama winger
I think it's important to minister to people in physical and psychological pain, but that's just my view.
{mama winger}
Good morning..hope you are well today.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:29:26am |
re: #619 JustMyView
I don't think they're making money providing abortions either. If they were, they wouldn't be dependent on donations.
And our tax dollars. Look at who founded PP - Margaret Sanger, a eugenicist who wanted to rid the world of non-white people and the mentally retarded.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:29:40am |
re: #619 JustMyView
I don't think they're making money providing abortions either. If they were, they wouldn't be dependent on donations.
They get federal funding.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:30:17am |
re: #626 HoosierHoops
{mama winger}
Good morning..hope you are well today.
I have a raging migraine, but who's counting ! LOL
Nice to see ya , hoops!
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:30:30am |
re: #616 mama winger
I think it's important to minister to people in physical and psychological pain, but that's just my view.
I think that's important too, but that doesn't mean that the people you saw who regretted having abortions are anything like the majority. They're not. They're the troubled few. Again, high-quality research indicates that, for most women, abortion does not portend long-term negative psychological adjustment. They do fine.
That conclusion isn't inconsistent w/ helping the minority who have problems or with trying to figure out how to help people make better decisions so that those likely to have problems will choose not to abort.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:30:38am |
re: #623 Kenneth
What about the aborted human beings, do they suffer post-abortion problems? Any studies on that?
That's gonna leave a mark.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:30:39am |
re: #624 realwest
LOL! Nope, no errands to run - other than to cart the overstuffed garbage bag to the dumpster type place here in the apartment complex and I'm putting that off as looong as I can!
How's about yourself? Y'all freezing up there yet?
LOL
Well we are supposed to get snow this weekend...
Guess i'll just have to browse to the beach cams in Hawaii and dream away.
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Intrepid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:30:42am |
I'm off to straighten the house a bit before my appointment lady gets here.
Have a good day, folks!
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turn Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:30:47am |
re: #612 reine.de.tout
Shucks - gotta run!
Thanks to all of you for support and understanding.
Good luck Rein, wish the best for your daughter.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:31:33am |
re: #603 Kenneth
Let me see if I understand Ayers' thinking...
So in Ayers' mind, bombing is not terrorism and associating with somebody is not associating.
And he is teaching the yutes of this country?
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:31:40am |
re: #604 HoosierHoops
There really ought to be a law against playing baseball in Nov.
And the high is going to be 85? I hate you!
/ LOL
//snow saturday here is what the word is..
SNOW...crap. My son plays year round baseball...our average temps in the winter are 72 degrees. We do get cold snaps into the 30's and 40's, but they only last a day or two. Golf is year round here as well and you don't have to play with an orange ball...lol
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:31:51am |
re: #630 JustMyView
They're the troubled few.
How much experience do you have in this area? I have over two and a half decades. You read a study.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:32:14am |
re: #629 mama winger
I get these things called cluster headaches every so often. I tell people that they make me want to gouge out my temple with a melon scooper and they don't believe me.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:32:28am |
re: #620 HoosierHoops
Got a email last night that the roll-out of Oracle R12 is being delayed.
So I'm really a happy camper..gives me another 6 weeks before i face the firefight that is Oracle...
Remember..It's not a bug, It's a feature.
Ummm. What? Sorry, I am not very computer literate, though I do make a living, in part, by pushing down on these little black keys.
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:32:57am |
re: #541 reine.de.tout
thanks.
The same year, both of my parents became suddenly and seriously ill and died within 4 months of each other. the baby was born the day after my father's funeral. talk about an eventful year!Gotta say, hanging out here during that time was helpful. So thank you to all of you!
Heart's aching for what you and your daughter have been through. Your daughter is very fortunate to have a mother who could guide her on to becoming a caring and gracious woman.
It's no puzzle why you're so respected on this blog.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:33:08am |
re: #629 mama winger
I have a raging migraine, but who's counting ! LOL
Nice to see ya , hoops!
well I hope it goes away..Never had a migrane..Would OJ help? I like OJ..not the man..the juice.
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snuffyword Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:33:38am |
re: #615 Kenneth
Let me see if I understand the liberal mindset with regards to killing human beings:
Women who kill their unborn child are not bothered by it at all.
US soldiers who kill terrorists in Iraq are traumatized by it.
Executing convicted murderers is wrong.
Is that about right?
That's about right. But we conservatives get chastised because we believe in the death penalty. From my point of view, at least we let a baby grow up to make mistakes before we take its life.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:33:49am |
re: #432 MandyManners
Fucker calls it "the politics of fear" when he was the one blowing up shit!
And the sewer rats known as the MSM swallow that with out a comment.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:33:51am |
re: #639 Bumr50
I get these things called cluster headaches every so often. I tell people that they make me want to gouge out my temple with a melon scooper and they don't believe me.
That's what I have right now - a cluster migraine. It started Election Night (no joke) and I have been battling it ever since.
Ack - I hear you about the melon scooper thing.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:33:54am |
re: #613 3 wood
Good morning my friend! Hope you're well today. The Chicago Machine makes me think of the real Elliot Ness (not the TV or movie versions).
First thing Ness did was to go after crooked cops and judges, then started working his way up the food chain so to speak.
I know some good people in Chicago and don't understand how the Machine can still operate the way it has for generations now. Just can't understand it (the Davis case being seperate and distinct, not because of his race but because of his being in the Congress and apt to be appointed Obama's successor in the Senate).
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turn Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:34:36am |
re: #613 3 wood
Get used to this folks, some of these folks are now coming to Washington.
Scarry thought.
More on that almost duke out at the cab stand 3W?
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:34:58am |
re: #630 JustMyView
I think that's important too, but that doesn't mean that the people you saw who regretted having abortions are anything like the majority. They're not. They're the troubled few. Again, high-quality research indicates that, for most women, abortion does not portend long-term negative psychological adjustment. They do fine.
That conclusion isn't inconsistent w/ helping the minority who have problems or with trying to figure out how to help people make better decisions so that those likely to have problems will choose not to abort.
You're full of shit. How many of those "studies" were funded by places like The Alan Guttmacher Institute, which is a front for PP? Guttmacher was one of the founders of PP, by the way. All their research is cooked up to support the abortion industry.
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Spenser (with an S) Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:35:52am |
re: #608 JustMyView
Again, there's a lot of high-quality research on this topic, summarized at the link I gave above.
Most of the research you linked to is simply determining if an increase in suicide or clinical depression has been proven. I don't have time to research the research and I did see the Guttmacher Institute in there who are owned by PP, but they didn't speak to a simple, sad knowledge that you (and sometimes the boyfriend) have made an irrevocable, although forgivable, decision.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:36:02am |
re: #637 jorline
SNOW...crap. My son plays year round baseball...our average temps in the winter are 72 degrees. We do get cold snaps into the 30's and 40's, but they only last a day or two. Golf is year round here as well and you don't have to play with an orange ball...lol
By Feb. I will be bat shit crazy.. I usually fly somewhere warm and play golf for a few days...
I have never played golf in Texas..I'm getting this crazy idea...
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:36:06am |
re: #644 3 wood
And the sewer rats known as the MSM swallow that with out a comment.
Are they ignorant of history or, complicit?
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:36:07am |
re: #603 Kenneth
The line of the morning so far: associating with someone is not associating.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:36:43am |
re: #562 realwest
Well, good morning all y'all - from a moderate (56 degrees going up to 65) rainy Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?
G'day {realwest} and *smooch*
Warm night here, and it's Saturday!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:36:51am |
re: #627 Ward Cleaver
And our tax dollars. Look at who founded PP - Margaret Sanger, a eugenicist who wanted to rid the world of non-white people and the mentally retarded.
Seeing how the majority of abortions in America are committed against black children & it's considered routine to abort Down syndrome children, we're getting closer to her dream.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:36:55am |
Gordon Brown is talking about a "globally coordinated tax cut."
I don't think that I'm as excited as Neil Cavuto.
Despite being fiscally conservative, when it succeeds it will be used as a precedent to endorse other "global" initiatives that definitely won't succeed as surely as this one definitely would.
I hope this gets no legs and no one takes the bait in the name of a "bipartisan solution."
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:37:19am |
re: #655 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Seeing how the majority of abortions in America are committed against black children & it's considered routine to abort Down syndrome children, we're getting closer to her dream.
Yes we are.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:37:21am |
re: #630 JustMyView
I think that's important too, but that doesn't mean that the people you saw who regretted having abortions are anything like the majority. They're not. They're the troubled few. Again, high-quality research indicates that, for most women, abortion does not portend long-term negative psychological adjustment. They do fine.
This just doesn't ring true. I don't care what the "research" or "studies" say. Murder has its dreadful consequences whether you call it that or abortion.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:37:59am |
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:38:14am |
re: #483 Beach Lover
Hillary as Sec of State? Guess he decided the old keeping your enemies closer thing has some merit, uh?
I'm pulling for Kerry. Can you imagine the stuff he will say into a microphone?
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:38:37am |
re: #625 jorline WHOA, that sure sounds nasty! I looked further than the first page to see what the treatment options are and stopped at prednisone - that, as I believe you know, is some really nasty shit.
I'm eagerly awaiting your e-mail my friend - I do hope your doctor was somewhat hopeful/helpful.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:38:39am |
re: #661 3 wood
I'm pulling for Kerry. Can you imagine the stuff he will say into a microphone?
Shoot me now.
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mamashawna Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:38:54am |
Found this in a commodity forum my hubby visits, it's long, but interesting. Any financial Lizard thoughts?
If you think this weekend's G-20 meetings in Washington are only about designing short-term fixes to the financial system and regulatory reforms for banks, hedge funds, brokers, mortgage companies and investment banks ... think again.
Behind the scenes, a far more fundamental fix is being discussed — the possible revaluation of gold and the birth of an entirely new monetary system.
I've been studying this issue in great depth, for many years now. And given the speed at which the financial crisis is unfolding, I would be very surprised if what I'm about to tell you now is not on the G-20 table this weekend.
Furthermore, I believe the end result will make a $2,270 price target for gold look conservative, to say the least. You'll see why in a minute.
First, the G-20's motive for a new monetary system: It's driven by and based upon this very simple proposition ...
'If we can't print money fast enough to fend off another deflationary Great Depression, then let's change the value of the money.'
I call it ...
'The G-20's Secret Debt Solution'
It would be a strategy designed to ease the burden of ALL debts — by simultaneously devaluing ALL currencies ... and re-inflating ALL asset prices.
That's what central banks and governments around the world are going to start talking about this weekend — a new financial order that includes new monetary units that helps to wipe clean the world's debt ledgers.
It won't be an easy deal to broker, since the U.S. is the world's largest debtor. But remember: Debts are now going bad all over the world. So everyone would benefit.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke ... Treasury Secretary Paulson ... President Bush ... President-elect Obama ... former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker ... Warren Buffett ... and central bankers and politicians all over the world agree a new monetary system is needed.
So they'll start hashing out the details to get the new financial architecture deployed as quickly as possible.
If you think I'm crazy or propagating some kind of conspiracy theory, then consider the historical precedent ...
To end the Great Depression in 1933 Franklin Roosevelt devalued the dollar via Executive Order #6102, confiscating gold and raising its price 69.3%, effectively kick starting asset reflation.
Only this time, it won't be just the U.S. that devalues its currency. The world is too interconnected. Instead, the world's leading countries will propose a simultaneous and universal currency devaluation.
This time, they will NOT confiscate gold. There would be riots all over the globe if they even mentioned the 'C' word.
But they don't have to confiscate gold. Here's one scenario ...
They cease all gold sales and instead, raise the current official central bank price of gold from its booked value of $42.22 an ounce — to a price that monetizes a large enough portion of the world's outstanding debts.
That way, just like in 1933, the debts become a fraction of re-inflated asset prices (led higher by the gold price).
to be continued...
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:39:06am |
re: #628 mama winger
They get federal funding.
Yes, according to the 2006-2007 annual report, 33% of their funds come from government grants. Thirty-five percent comes from charges for services (including exams, contraceptives, and abortion), and 26% comes from private donations.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:39:18am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:39:21am |
re: #661 3 wood
I'm pulling for Kerry. Can you imagine the stuff he will say into a microphone?
I'm pulling for Hilliary to get her the hell outa NY
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:40:01am |
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:40:21am |
re: #664 mamashawna
That kinda dwarfs my Gordon Brown global tax cut post.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:40:51am |
re: #629 mama winger
Good morning mama - sorry to read you've got a migraine - is there anything you can take/do for it (hint, trying to "discuss" stuff with you-know-who isn't it!)?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:41:08am |
re: #613 3 wood
Cook County Judge Martin Coughlin kept discussion focused on Davis' alleged left turn crossing the center line and refused to hear testimony from Kuhlmann about a second time she claimed Davis' vehicle drifted over the double yellow lines.
I wonder if there was a valid legal reason for the Judge to exclude the evidence. Maybe it was hearsay evidence which the witness was told by the other cop who did not show up to testify.
If so, then the legal result was correct and there was no "fix".
And why would the reporter have chosen to omit the Judge's reason for excluding the evidence?
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Spenser (with an S) Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:41:24am |
re: #619 JustMyView
re: #596 DistantThunder
Obviously PP isn't making money if the baby is being kept or adopted.
I don't think they're making money providing abortions either. If they were, they wouldn't be dependent on donations.
Please re-read my #522. $1B profit off abortions. $300M from us, the rest from charging for the abortions and from donations. They're not the Red Cross.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:41:29am |
re: #639 Bumr50
I get these things called cluster headaches every so often. I tell people that they make me want to gouge out my temple with a melon scooper and they don't believe me.
I used to get migraines all the time. Made me nauseous. I'd vomit. Then I'd feel better. One day while suffering through one, I drank some warm water with a teaspoon of baking soda right at the onset. Settled my tummy and the headache vanished.
Discovered it was my upset tummy causing the migraines. Haven't suffered one in decades.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:41:33am |
re: #630 JustMyView
Sorry JMV. I disagree with you completely on this one. The women I know that went through an abortion are seriously messed up. I can't speak for all of them, but that is my experience.
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mamashawna Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:41:39am |
Continued...
And this time, instead of staying with the dollar as a reserve currency, the G-20 issues three new monetary units of exchange, each with equal reserve status.
The three currencies will essentially be a new dollar, new euro, and a new pan-Asian currency. (The Chinese yuan may survive as a fourth currency, but it will be linked to a basket of the three new currencies.)
The new fiat monetary units would be worth less than the old ones. For instance, it could take 10 new units of money to buy 1 old dollar or euro.
New names would be given to the new currencies to help rid the world of the ghost of a system that failed. Additional regulations and programs would be designed and implemented to ease the transition to a new monetary system.
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) would implement the new financial system in conjunction with central banks and governments around the world.
Keep in mind that the IMF is already set up to handle the transition, and has had contingency plans allowing for it since the institution was formed in 1944.
Included in the design and transition to a new monetary system ...
A. A new fixed-rate currency regime. Immediately upon upping the price of gold and introducing the new currencies, a new fixed exchange rate system would be re-introduced. The floating exchange rate system would be tossed into the dust bin along with the old currencies.
This would kill any speculation about further devaluations in the currency markets, and drastically reduce market volatility.
B. To sell the program to savers and protect them from the currency devaluation, compensatory measures would be enacted. For instance, a one-time windfall tax-free deposit could be issued by governments directly to citizens' accounts, or, to employer-sponsored pensions, to IRAs, or Social Security accounts.
Income taxes may subsequently be raised to pay for the give-away, or a nominal global type of sales tax could be enacted to help pay for the new system and the compensatory measures.
C. Additional programs would be designed to protect lenders and creditors. Lenders stand a much higher chance of getting paid off under the new monetary system — but with a currency whose purchasing power would now be a fraction of what it was when the loans were originated.
So programs would have to be designed to help lenders offset the inflationary costs of their devalued loans, probably via the tax code.
Naturally, all this is a bit more complicated than I've spelled out above. But that gives you a big-picture outline of what the plan could look like. And I think major changes like these are going to be set in motion at this weekend's G-20 meetings in Washington.
Would they work?
Yes. They would help avoid a repeat of the deflationary Great Depression. But don't expect even a new monetary system to put the U.S. or the global economy back on track toward the high rates of real growth that we've seen over the last several years. That's simply not going to happen. Not for a while.
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jorline Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:41:47am |
re: #651 HoosierHoops
By Feb. I will be bat shit crazy.. I usually fly somewhere warm and play golf for a few days...
I have never played golf in Texas..I'm getting this crazy idea...
LOL I lived in the Rio Grande Valley for 13 years, it's about two hours south of me. Great winter temps, a lot of golf courses, South Padre Island and tons of Winter Texans from your neck of the woods.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:41:47am |
re: #652 MandyManners
Are they ignorant of history or, complicit?
Absolutely complicit.
They agree with a lot of this crap.
Walk through the "J" school Department at any local public university and just look at the America hating stuff you see posted up on the walls.
This is the environment these people went to school in.
You can see it coming out of them now.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:42:14am |
re: #661 3 wood
I'm pulling for Kerry. Can you imagine the stuff he will say into a microphone?
You mean like telling school kids to stay in school or they will end up in the military?
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:42:37am |
Good morning, {all y'all}
Thank
God
it's Friday!
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:42:46am |
re: #671 realwest
Good morning realwest -
I take Imitrex (sp) for migraines but the whiskey ain't workin' anymore, if you catch my drift :)
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mamashawna Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:42:48am |
Last Section:
Instead, I'm talking about a massive asset price reflation, negative real economic growth in the U.S. and Europe — but continued real GDP gains in Asia.
The Big Question: What gold price would be legislated to reflate the U.S. and global economy?
I can't tell you what gold price the G-20 would ultimately agree to. But here's what they will be looking at ...
To monetize 100% of the outstanding public and private sector debt in the U.S., the official government price of gold would have to be raised to about $53,000 per ounce.
To monetize 50%, the price of gold would have to be raised to around $26,500 an ounce.
To monetize 20% would require a gold price a hair over $10,600 an ounce.
To monetize just 10%, gold would have to be priced just over $5,300 an ounce.
Those figures are just based on the U.S. debt structure and do not factor in global debts gone bad. But since the U.S. is the world's largest debtor and the epicenter of the crisis, the G-20 will likely base their final decision mostly on the U.S. debt structure.
So how much debt do I think would be monetized via an executive order that raises the official price of gold? What kind of currency devaluation would I expect as a result?
I would not be surprised to see the G-20 monetize at least 20% of the U.S. debt markets. THAT MEANS ...
Gold would be priced at over $10,000 an ounce.
Currencies would be devalued by a factor of at least 12 to 1, meaning it would take 12 new dollars or euros to equal 1 old dollar or euro.
The return of the Gold Standard?
You ask, 'how could this be accomplished when we no longer have a gold standard? Further, are you advocating a gold standard?'
My answers:
First, you don't need a gold standard to accomplish a devaluation of currencies and revaluation of the monetary system.
By offering to pay over $10,000 an ounce for gold, central banks can effectively accomplish the same end goal — monetizing and reducing the burden of debts, via inflating asset prices in fiat money terms.
Naturally, hoards of gold investors will cash in their gold. The central banks will pile it up. At the same time, other hoards of investors will not sell their gold, even at $10,000 an ounce. But the actual movement of the gold will not matter. It is the psychological impact and the devaluation of paper currencies that matters.
Second, I do NOT advocate a fully convertible gold standard. Never have. There isn't enough gold in the world to make currencies convertible into gold. It would end up backfiring, restricting the supply of money and credit.
Good trading to you all. LOL
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:43:40am |
re: #653 freedombilly
The line of the morning so far: associating with someone is not associating.
It all depends on what the definition of is, is...
And in the 'Change You Can Believe In' Department... Hillary for Secretary of State? It's all over the papers here in NYC... God help our country...
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Crusty Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:43:40am |
re: #1 Wyatt Earp
Here's a creepy fact from across the pond. UK Sperm Banks in Need of a Bailout. Eww.
The punchline is, "Sorry lady, we're all out of bottles today so I'm gonna have to give it to you straight from the tap."
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:44:17am |
re: #678 3 wood
Absolutely complicit.
They agree with a lot of this crap.
Walk through the "J" school Department at any local public university and just look at the America hating stuff you see posted up on the walls.
This is the environment these people went to school in.
You can see it coming out of them now.
Things have changed since I was in J-school.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:44:22am |
re: #652 MandyManners
Morning Mandy - I dibbs complicit. At a minimum.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:44:48am |
re: #645 mama winger
Good morning Mama.
Do me a favor please. You know Chicago politics too.
Please read my post #613, and then let me know if I have exaggerated in any way.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:45:11am |
re: #680 redstateredneck
Good morning, {all y'all}
Thank
it's Friday!
I have no idea what I did to make my post look like that. I can promise you that I did not intend to put God's name in small text!
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:45:27am |
re: #657 ploome hineni
Half of all pregnancies among African Americans end in abortions and half of all abortions performed in the US are of African Americans. There have been 40 million abortions since Roe vs Wade. Which suggests there would be up to 20 million more African Americans alive today if they had not been aborted. That would significantly alter the demographics of the country.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:45:53am |
Morning, everyone. To continue in my theme of cat postings, I have to share my daughter's submission. I think she's trying to tell me something about her cat, who is still at my house. I'm worried.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:46:20am |
re: #687 mamashawna
But...there's more! ;)
If you order in the next 10 minutes, you'll get a free Sham-Wow!
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:46:21am |
re: #654 aussiemagpie
Hey there {aussiemagpie} *smooches* back to you!
Too bad it's Saturday night there - means the weekend's half over, ours hasn't even begun!
Course, for me, weekends are the same as weekdays, so there's that...!
How are you and how's the Chardy holding up?!?
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:46:53am |
re: #681 mama winger
Good morning realwest -
I take Imitrex (sp) for migraines but the whiskey ain't workin' anymore, if you catch my drift :)
I had the same problem, my dear. Go to your doctor, and see about a different medication. There are various triptans on the market.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:47:06am |
re: #688 ploome hineni
I used to getmigranes
I am sure you know to take the pain medication when you feel the headache may begin
Yup. that was my problem - I started getting it on Election Night while I was working at the polls. I didn't have anything with me, and now I am stuck in cluster-headache hell.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:47:47am |
re: #680 redstateredneck
Good morning, {all y'all}
Thank
it's Friday!
G'day {redstateredneck} Good to see you!
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:48:10am |
re: #692 midwestgak
Mornin red.
Hey, gak. I was almost in Missouri last weekend. Bentonville, Arkansas.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:48:27am |
re: #656 Bumr50
Morning to you. WTH is a "globally coordinated tax cut."? I mean, how are the French - among other socialistic countries - going keep on keeping on with tax cuts for crying out loud?
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:48:45am |
re: #698 vxbush
I had the same problem, my dear. Go to your doctor, and see about a different medication. There are various triptans on the market.
The problem is that I have a blood disorder that prevents me from taking many medications. I think I might have to just go with the whole 'melon scooper in the temple' thing :)
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:48:48am |
re: #693 vxbush
Morning, everyone. To continue in my theme of cat postings, I have to share my daughter's submission. I think she's trying to tell me something about her cat, who is still at my house. I'm worried.
Really cute. Made me smile. Needed that.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:49:00am |
re: #646 realwest
I know some good people in Chicago and don't understand how the Machine can still operate the way it has for generations now. Just can't understand it (the Davis case being seperate and distinct, not because of his race but because of his being in the Congress and apt to be appointed Obama's successor in the Senate).
Because they control everything in Chicago and have for over 50 years.
If you oppose them, you get destroyed.
Did you notice the cop in the story that issued the ticket did not even show up to court? Gee, I wonder why.
Because that way the ticket could be thrown out. I'm sure the officer was told in no uncertain circumstances to not go near court that day.
Again, it's what Royko called "the fix is in".
Much like what is going on in Minnesota right now, by the way.
You can book it folks, Franken will win. I'm sure the Dem's are "finding" votes for Franken all over the State by now.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:49:39am |
re: #693 vxbush
Morning, everyone. To continue in my theme of cat postings, I have to share my daughter's submission. I think she's trying to tell me something about her cat, who is still at my house. I'm worried.
Funny!
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:50:10am |
re: #682 mamashawna
As a former or "recovering" alcoholic, I have a tendency to relate my personal experiences to political situations.
I'm not entirely isolationist and feel that the global marketplace is a good thing.
That being said, getting one's own ducks in a row is absolutely imperative before helping anyone else with theirs. It NEVER works the other way.
The "rest of the world" is not going to come up with a mutually beneficial solution by virtue of the truth that this is in fact still the greatest nation in the world, and any compromise or legislation struck with our "friends" would be better for them than for us.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:50:22am |
re: #701 redstateredneck
Hey, gak. I was almost in Missouri last weekend. Bentonville, Arkansas.
That's great. I stayed in Chicago.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:50:48am |
re: #704 mama winger
The problem is that I have a blood disorder that prevents me from taking many medications. I think I might have to just go with the whole 'melon scooper in the temple' thing :)
Aiyee. That greatly complicates things. Have you tried the facial ice packs? I love them. I have a facial mask filled with resin beads sitting my freezer that I pull out when things are getting bad. Helps a lot.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:50:51am |
re: #697 realwest
Hey there {aussiemagpie} *smooches* back to you!
Too bad it's Saturday night there - means the weekend's half over, ours hasn't even begun!
Course, for me, weekends are the same as weekdays, so there's that...!
How are you and how's the Chardy holding up?!?
LOL! The chardy is on hold for tonight - I have to work today, so I need unshaky hands to give injections :-)
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:50:59am |
re: #700 aussiemagpie
{ { {aussie} } }!
How are ya'?
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:51:02am |
re: #706 3 wood
If When Franken wins I will have to check out of the news loop for at least a month.
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legalpad Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:51:37am |
re: #495 aussiemagpie
LOL! My Dad was definitely a very conservative thinker, after being in prison in Austria in the early 30s for being an anarchist !
My Mum had no time for any politicians of any type :-)
And I'm not a basement kiddie, an oldie *sigh* thinking about what colour my walker is going to be, and will it have a GT stripe
Take your calcium - My 90 - something year old grandmother said she wanted to die falling out of a tree, and she almost did.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:51:48am |
re: #699 mama winger
Yup. that was my problem - I started getting it on Election Night while I was working at the polls. I didn't have anything with me, and now I am stuck in cluster-headache hell.
I've been in the same boat - I worked the polls too, 6 AM to 8:30 PM & haven't really recovered. The election results haven't improved my disposition either.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:52:08am |
re: #680 redstateredneck
Good morning, {all y'all}
Thank
it's Friday!
good Morning! And how is everything with you?
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:52:19am |
re: #710 ploome hineni
that is because abstinence and morality cannot be taught along with methods of condom placement
and of course, using shame to produce desired behaviors is destructive to self esteem and the right to sexual behavior without any consequence whatsoever
Shame, our forgotten virtue.
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Taqiyyotomist Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:52:19am |
re: #165 shanec99
Levin is wrong... Liberalism is not the philosophy of the stupid... it is the philosophy of lies.
I disagree, partly. It's both. The deceivers and the deceived. The deceivers are anything but stupid. They are wily, crafty, sly, quite intelligent, and they know exactly what they are doing and who they are fooling. Just like the Serpent from Genesis, they are "subtil". Anything but stupid. The people who are stupid are the fooled. They are deceived by the deceivers, for many reasons, not least of which is because they have been programmed. Programmed by their schools, by the television, by the popular culture. It's a cycle, too. They are stupid for watching TV, for believing all that they hear on it, which makes them stupid. Rinse and repeat. For generations. The schools' methods of "teaching" are quite (hate to say this) intelligently designed, by intelligent, EVIL people. The de-educational programming on television? Likewise. It is knee-jerk to claim that these people are stupid, and just as much to claim that the recipients of all this programming are plain evil. Al Gore is not stupid, although it's fun to say this, and probably cathartic. He is quite intelligent, and knows exactly what he is doing. Liberalism is twofold - the .1% who decieve the 99.9%, quite intentionally. For the 99.9%, I try to say Forgive them, for they know not what they do. The others? I have nothing to say that would not make Charles' site look bad.
Over on the Ayers thread at ABCnews many commenters are saying things like, "What's the big deal? Ayers is just a stupid ex-hippie." I want to SCREAM at them, "NO! He is FAR from stupid. He is a consciously evil liar, manipulator, and communist revolutionary, and he daily plots evil against you, your neighbors, and, most insidiously, your kids' minds." Even Rush falls into it. "How can they be so mind-bogglingly stupid?!", he'll say, about someone who is obviously on the Deciever side of this dichotomy. I know he knows, but it's just so darn EASY to take that road.
Morning all.
-Taq
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:53:04am |
re: #706 3 wood
I wholeheartedly agree... Franken will win in Minnesota... I think the hope for maintaining the Dems at 59 seats will lie with Saxby Chambliss...
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:53:09am |
re: #693 vxbush
Morning, everyone. To continue in my theme of cat postings, I have to share my daughter's submission. I think she's trying to tell me something about her cat, who is still at my house. I'm worried.
HAHAHA! I am printing that out and taking that to work with me at noon!
We have two cats in hospital right now that tried to eat me alive yesterday.
Never attempt to start an IV on a cat who is trying to kill you. Lesson of the Day.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:53:32am |
A friend of mine was told by her husband to abort her 4th pregnancy, as it would be "unfair to the other children" to have another baby. Instead, she divorced her husband and kept the baby.
She raised these 4 kids on her own, watched her promising career slip by, worked from home and made do as best she could. She has no regrets.
Last weekend her family celebrated the youngest child's 15th birthday. She a bright, beautiful, talented and happy young woman.
I understand the ex-husband is still a jerk.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:54:05am |
re: #717 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I've been in the same boat - I worked the polls too, 6 AM to 8:30 PM & haven't really recovered. The election results haven't improved my disposition either.
Maybe you and I should go out and get plastered. Couldn't hurt.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:54:10am |
re: #715 Bumr50
I do find it interesting that Gordon Brown is a liberal proposing a tax cut right after Obama is elected.
Makes me wonder how the higher-ups in Europe really feel about the One.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:54:24am |
Mornin' all. Didja see Oprah and some other famous folks have lost or will lose their houses? Gotta love SoCal. If it isn't burning up, it's shaking down, or sliding away in a mud slide.
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JustMyView Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:54:25am |
I have to run folks, but I'll try to check back later. Before leaving, though, I want to say that I'm not arguing for or against the morality of abortion. That's a decision each person has to make for him or herself. But I am arguing for attention to empirical reality in discussing the consequences of abortion. I jumped into the conversation above because of blanket assertions about the psychological damage suffered by women who have abortions. Those claims just can't be supported. No doubt, there are some women who suffer post-abortion psychological trauma, but the number is small, and some evidence indicates they are women who have other psychological problems such as depression.
Arguing about "a woman I knew" or "the people who consult me as a pastor" is interesting, but it's not empirically compelling because there are no comparisons, no control in the selection of observations, and no systematic observations of the person's psychological condition.
See you later.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:54:48am |
re: #718 HoosierHoops
good Morning! And how is everything with you?
Everything is good so far, but I'm at work so it's subject to change.
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:54:50am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I can't say that I'm surprised by the "revelation" that Ayers and Obama were close friends. The writing had been on the wall for years. You don't launch your political career in the home of a complete stranger.
Yet, the media continued to treat this as a nonstory while they went on a search to find Trig's real birth parents.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:55:04am |
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:55:11am |
re: #720 Taqiyyotomist
I think that Liberalism is the philosophy of no personal responsibility.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:55:16am |
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jamie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:55:22am |
Oy gevalt, the abortion nut pod people seem to have taken over the open thread.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:55:23am |
re: #722 mama winger
HAHAHA! I am printing that out and taking that to work with me at noon!
We have two cats in hospital right now that tried to eat me alive yesterday.
Never attempt to start an IV on a cat who is trying to kill you. Lesson of the Day.
Yeees. I would have to agree with that rule.
/so thankful we have ace promazine
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:55:33am |
re: #723 Kenneth
My sister was bullied into an abortion by her first husband. He told her he would throw her out of the house if she didn't have an abortion. Then he proceeded to do it anyway a week later. She still mourns. That was 25 years ago.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:55:40am |
re: #691 Kenneth
Half of all pregnancies among African Americans end in abortions and half of all abortions performed in the US are of African Americans. There have been 40 million abortions since Roe vs Wade. Which suggests there would be up to 20 million more African Americans alive today if they had not been aborted. That would significantly alter the demographics of the country.
So Roe v Wade was actually a white racist plot by SCOTUS.//
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Miss Trixie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:56:20am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
It's Firday!
*happy dance*
{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* :D
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:56:28am |
re: #725 mama winger
Maybe you and I should go out and get plastered. Couldn't hurt.
My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
/Senator John Blutarsky
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:56:42am |
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:56:51am |
re: #736 vxbush
Also never attempt to trap feral cats. It doesn't work!
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:57:14am |
re: #738 Spare O'Lake
So Roe v Wade was actually a white racist plot by SCOTUS.//
No, but that's been the result.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:57:28am |
re: #721 tfc3rid
I wholeheartedly agree... Franken will win in Minnesota... I think the hope for maintaining the Dems at 59 seats will lie with Saxby Chambliss...
Heard yesterday that Obama may be going to Georgia to campaign for his opponent.
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Taqiyyotomist Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:57:43am |
re: #728 JustMyView
I'll get back to you when I find a university that is willing to do this "study" you suggest without bias, and using empirical evidence. Don't hold your breath.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:57:46am |
re: #730 lawhawk
Do you think there will be backlash from this or just us right wing 'wackos' making hay out of it?
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:57:57am |
re: #746 pingjockey
Also never attempt to trap feral cats. It doesn't work!
Or pick up a cat who will never allow it. The shredding on the back of one my shirts is a testament to that.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:58:08am |
re: #746 pingjockey
An experience you'll no doubt never forget?
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christheprofessor Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:58:34am |
Good morning, all...
Well, I glanced at Charles' post below about the myserious genome, and that may explain the screwy DNA results I just got back on my dog.
The first test (when it only tested for 38 breeds) said that the breakdown of influences was: significant DNA contribution of Cocker Spaniel, small contribution Whippet. Labrador Retriever didn't show up at all, though it was in the original list of breeds covered.
The new results, which test for 105 breeds, are: significant DNA contribution Whippet and Labrador Retriever, small contribution Cocker Spaniel and -- wait for it -- "German Shepherd Dog."
Maybe it's too early in the morning, but I can't seem to do the mental origami that would cause the relative contributions of the Whippet and Cocker Spaniel DNA to reverse themselves, nor can I figure out why Lab wasn't picked up in the first test.
I need coffee. ;)
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:58:54am |
re: #728 JustMyView
No doubt, there are some women who suffer post-abortion psychological trauma, but the number is small, and some evidence indicates they are women who have other psychological problems such as depression.
Yes. They aren't sad because they are sad. They are sad because they are probably already mentally ill.
Go. Go now.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:59:13am |
re: #704 mama winger
NO-O-O-O- no melon scoopers! LOL! Seriously mama, your doctor knows about your other problems and perhaps he/she could suggest something that would work much better than that Imitrex (sp? for me too!) stuff?
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:59:17am |
re: #722 mama winger
Never attempt to start an IV on a cat who is trying to kill you.
I can't imagine attempting to start an IV on a cat, period. Even a cuddly kitty must get a might testy!
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:59:22am |
re: #706 3 wood
Because they control everything in Chicago and have for over 50 years.
If you oppose them, you get destroyed.
Did you notice the cop in the story that issued the ticket did not even show up to court? Gee, I wonder why.
Because that way the ticket could be thrown out. I'm sure the officer was told in no uncertain circumstances to not go near court that day.
Again, it's what Royko called "the fix is in".
Much like what is going on in Minnesota right now, by the way.
You can book it folks, Franken will win. I'm sure the Dem's are "finding" votes for Franken all over the State by now.
OK, so then the "fixer" was not the Judge, but the Police.
Well, that's much more comforting.//
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:59:34am |
re: #755 christheprofessor
Morning, sir! Hope you're well. Here's your coffee.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:59:38am |
re: #752 vxbush
Or pick up a cat who will never allow it. The shredding on the back of one my shirts is a testament to that.
You should never let cats drive angry, either.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:59:39am |
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 6:59:56am |
re: #755 christheprofessor
How much did you pay, if you don't mind me asking? I won't be offended if you don't reply, it's just that we have a schnoodle that I personally don't think has any poodle in her at all.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:07am |
re: #737 mama winger
My sister was bullied into an abortion by her first husband. He told her he would throw her out of the house if she didn't have an abortion. Then he proceeded to do it anyway a week later. She still mourns. That was 25 years ago.
Dickhead tried to do that with me. When I refused to do so, he tried to induce one by harassing me relentlessly and driving me around the bend.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:16am |
Good Lord. Nat'l Geo channel is showing the fire on the Forrestal back in the 60s. I saw it it boot camp and forgot how horrific that was.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:17am |
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:29am |
re: #761 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You should never let cats drive angry, either.
ROTFLMAO! I love it...
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:33am |
I was in a dress store with my 16 year old daughter, and we watched a very pregnant woman attempting to be zipped into a too small wedding dress. It wasn't working. Then my daughter said: Remind me to never do that.
I don't think I'll have to ...but you never know. Life finds a way.
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joncelli Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:44am |
Safari 3.2 for Mac and Windows is out, lizards. Go get yourself a download.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:49am |
re: #761 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You should never let cats drive angry, either.
"I'm going to pack your angry eyes. Just in case."
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:00:54am |
re: #651 HoosierHoops
By Feb. I will be bat shit crazy.. I usually fly somewhere warm and play golf for a few days...
I have never played golf in Texas..I'm getting this crazyidea...
I have a mug which says on the side:
"Full Blown Bat-Shit Crazy"
:)
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:01:04am |
One of my sons came home and told us that his girlfriend was pregnant (several years ago). He was 16 and she was 15.
My reaction? I told him that he was in for a life sentence and that he would be taking care of that child for longer than he was alive. He asked what he should do and my comment was for him to get a job, save the money and take care of the baby. He eventually dropped out of school, got a GED and now is in his Junior year of college at the age of 28.
He's shocked some of the post high school crowd with reality.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:01:30am |
re: #766 pingjockey
Good Lord. Nat'l Geo channel is showing the fire on the Forrestal back in the 60s. I saw it it boot camp and forgot how horrific that was.
Was that the fire that McCain was in, or was that the Oriskany?
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:01:40am |
re: #758 redstateredneck
I can't imagine attempting to start an IV on a cat, period. Even a cuddly kitty must get a might testy!
The job is no fun, but the pay is lousy. That's what keeps me going.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:02:11am |
Good Morning!
I admit that it's cool but I'm sticking to my FAL. So to speak...
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:02:25am |
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:02:26am |
PS - I remember something about Charles saying that he didn't want anymore abortion discussion just because they devolve. We've been studiously avoiding such discussions. I heard this second hand.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:02:37am |
re: #720 Taqiyyotomist
Political opinions have nothing to do with the intelligence or stupidity of a person. You can always find some very smart people who hold very "stupid" political beliefs and visa-versa. Politics are all about ethics, morality, and the psychology of the person. You believe the political philosophy you do because you believe it is ethically or morally correct. The set of values you judge issues by is formed by your upbringing, your experiences, your moral framework and your personal psychology.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:03:07am |
re: #706 3 wood
That's why I said Chicago needs a new Eliot Ness! Got to either work your way up the food chain, or take off the tops of the chain and work downwards from there.
Trust me when I say to you that EVEN UNDER KING RICHARD, Chicago is NO WHERE nearly as corrupt as it was under KING AL CAPONE. Not by a long shot.
IIRC, the real Eliot Ness wound up have more than a quarter of the cops in Chicago fired, got the Feds to clean out the local judiciary and the like - then let the Feds take Capone down on a tax evasion charge!
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:03:11am |
re: #769 DistantThunder
I was in a dress store with my 16 year old daughter, and we watched a very pregnant woman attempting to be zipped into a too small wedding dress. It wasn't working. Then my daughter said: Remind me to never do that.
I don't think I'll have to ...but you never know. Life finds a way.
On the bright side it appears that she's into boys.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:03:11am |
re: #779 ploome hineni
best site ever
I don't know. For a while, StuffonMyCats.com was doing well, and then CuteOverload.com was hitting home runs daily. They have cycles.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:03:34am |
re: #743 ploome hineni
He posted some study at #328. I didn't bother to read it.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:03:44am |
re: #781 DistantThunder
PS - I remember something about Charles saying that he didn't want anymore abortion discussion just because they devolve. We've been studiously avoiding such discussions. I heard this second hand.
LGF is a pro-evolution site, after all. ;)
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:03:59am |
Minnesotans should be ashamed if they send Al Franken to Washington.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:04:12am |
re: #755 christheprofessor
Good morning, all...
Well, I glanced at Charles' post below about the myserious genome, and that may explain the screwy DNA results I just got back on my dog.
The first test (when it only tested for 38 breeds) said that the breakdown of influences was: significant DNA contribution of Cocker Spaniel, small contribution Whippet. Labrador Retriever didn't show up at all, though it was in the original list of breeds covered.
The new results, which test for 105 breeds, are: significant DNA contribution Whippet and Labrador Retriever, small contribution Cocker Spaniel and -- wait for it -- "German Shepherd Dog."
Maybe it's too early in the morning, but I can't seem to do the mental origami that would cause the relative contributions of the Whippet and Cocker Spaniel DNA to reverse themselves, nor can I figure out why Lab wasn't picked up in the first test.
I need coffee. ;)
Somewhere there are monkeys and a dartboard.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:04:19am |
re: #647 turn
More on that almost duke out at the cab stand 3W?
I worked a private security gig for a major bank in Chicago for a while when I was in college in Chicago, and got around the City a lot. I used to run into Royko here and there, we knew each other enough to say hello on the street.
One day I had to go find one of the bank top executives who had a habit of getting lost at lunch and would try his best to drink some dive bar dry. So I started hitting the joints on Wells and then Michigan Ave. I found the guy in a sleazy dive wrapping himself around a pitcher of martini's, and Mr. Royko was right there matching him drink for drink.
What these two guys did not notice, but I did when I walked in, was there were a couple of street skells hanging out by the door, lining them up to roll them as soon as the two inebriated guys left to leave.
So, not wanting to just take my guy and leave Royko to rolled, I grabbed them both and escorted them out to the cab stand. I got them to a cab and got the back door open, when Royko decided to go back in and finish off his drink. I stopped him and he started swinging on me.
Royko was a mean drunk.
So there I was, a 20-something, wet behind the ears Chicago kid with local legend Mike Royko drunkenly trying to punch me out on the street on broad daylight.
I bobbed and weaved, realizing that if I so much as tapped him I was toast in that city. After a few wild swings by Mike, I pulled his coat up over his arms like you see the hockey players do in a fight to tie him up, threw him into the back of the cab, tossed the cabbie a ten-spot and told him to get the H*** out of here.
A couple weeks later I ran into Mike on the street and he apologized.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:04:25am |
re: #782 Kenneth
Political opinions have nothing to do with the intelligence or stupidity of a person. You can always find some very smart people who hold very "stupid" political beliefs and visa-versa. Politics are all about ethics, morality, and the psychology of the person. You believe the political philosophy you do because you believe it is ethically or morally correct. The set of values you judge issues by is formed by your upbringing, your experiences, your moral framework and your personal psychology.
Except you can change your political persuasion for a variety of reasons. I used to be a Democrat until I read some books that showed me the problems with democrat positions. I accepted the facts and changed my positions accordingly.
I realize that few people do that, however.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:04:31am |
re: #776 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
IIRC, Oriskany. However, I have been wrong before and will be again. On this abortion thing. I wish some really bright doc would come up with a vasectomy for teenage boys that was easily reversible! I'd get my 2 fixed, then when they got married they could have it reversed!
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:05:01am |
re: #765 MandyManners
Dickhead tried to do that with me. When I refused to do so, he tried to induce one by harassing me relentlessly and driving me around the bend.
I hear ya Mandy. I bet you took a few bruises too, just like my sister. Choice my ass.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:05:01am |
re: #790 Ward Cleaver
Minnesotans should be ashamed if they send Al Franken to Washington.
Minnesotans should be ashamed that they sent Al Franken to Saturday Night Live in the first place.
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Lively Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:05:11am |
re: #774 Perplexed
One of my sons came home and told us that his girlfriend was pregnant (several years ago). He was 16 and she was 15.
My reaction? I told him that he was in for a life sentence and that he would be taking care of that child for longer than he was alive. He asked what he should do and my comment was for him to get a job, save the money and take care of the baby. He eventually dropped out of school, got a GED and now is in his Junior year of college at the age of 28.
He's shocked some of the post high school crowd with reality.
I'm glad he has a good head on his shoulders and is taking care of his own kid.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:05:51am |
re: #790 Ward Cleaver
Minnesotans should be ashamed if they send Al Franken to Washington.
We won't send Al Franken to Washington, the Dumb Fascist Looters will.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:06:14am |
re: #712 aussiemagpie
" I need unshaky hands to give injections" - don't know why, shaky hands have neve bothered any nurses I've run into!
Or maybe it was me who was shaking?! Hmmm.
;')
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Lively Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:06:19am |
re: #790 Ward Cleaver
Minnesotans should be ashamed if they send Al Franken to Washington.
Al Franken is trying to send himself to Washington.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:06:25am |
re: #777 mama winger
The job is no fun, but the pay is lousy. That's what keeps me going.
My elderly dachshund, Sugarman, would tear the vet a new one if he had the chance. He does pretty well with the assistant, though, so I usually schedule his teeth cleaning to coincide with his annual vaccinations and check up. That way, they can do everything to him when he's in la-la land.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:07:14am |
re: #792 3 wood
So there I was, a 20-something, wet behind the ears Chicago kid with local legend Mike Royko drunkenly trying to punch me out on the street on broad daylight.
LOL ! Where's YouTube when you need it ! haha
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:07:25am |
re: #794 pingjockey
IIRC, Oriskany. However, I have been wrong before and will be again. On this abortion thing. I wish some really bright doc would come up with a vasectomy for teenage boys that was easily reversible! I'd get my 2 fixed, then when they got married they could have it reversed!
"Son, we're going to take your testicles away from you until you finish college & get a real job. Look on the bright side - you won't have to wear a cup when playing football."
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:07:37am |
re: #753 ploome hineni
take your time
/spit
C'mon give the guy a break, maybe he learned that scientific study shit working at the PR department of a tobacco company.//
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:07:39am |
re: #800 realwest
" I need unshaky hands to give injections" - don't know why, shaky hands have neve bothered any nurses I've run into!
Or maybe it was me who was shaking?! Hmmm.
;')
That's why I always tell the nurses and phlebotomists: if you're taking blood, stick that needle in fast. You don't shake; my veins do.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:08:06am |
re: #802 redstateredneck
My elderly dachshund, Sugarman, would tear the vet a new one if he had the chance. He does pretty well with the assistant, though, so I usually schedule his teeth cleaning to coincide with his annual vaccinations and check up. That way, they can do everything to him when he's in la-la land.
That's the way to do it! Vet Techs everywhere salute you! LOL
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:08:10am |
re: #799 The Other Les
We won't send Al Franken to Washington, the Dumb Fascist Looters will.
I know you're doing your part to keep him out of there. I sent some money to Saxby Chambliss.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:08:27am |
re: #793 vxbush
Did you change your political opinions because you suddenly became smarter (or stupider, depending on who you ask)?
No, you changed your opinions because your experiences shifted your moral framework.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:08:45am |
re: #797 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Minnesotans should be ashamed that they sent Al Franken to Saturday Night Live in the first place.
I always started channel surfing whenever Franken came on.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:08:52am |
re: #804 ploome hineni
I have the "Fear of God" speech, the "There are bugs out there drugs can't cure" speech and of course the ultimate threat "Your mom will turn you from a rooster to a hen".
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:08:56am |
re: #806 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
"Son, we're going to take your testicles away from you until you finish college & get a real job. Look on the bright side - you won't have to wear a cup when playing football."
And the look of fear begins...
You know, I had a friend who, for a while, thought men were fixed like pigs. His father corrected him post haste.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:08:57am |
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:09:00am |
re: #798 Lively
I'm glad he has a good head on his shoulders and is taking care of his own kid.
The most complex structure in the known universe is the human brain with something like 100 Billion neurons. I am of the belief that more human brains are an asset to the world.
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Boogberg Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:09:45am |
Just a quick note for The Fifth Element fans (who don't have the DVD). You can watch it here to your heart's content. :D
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:09:51am |
re: #812 Kenneth
Did you change your political opinions because you suddenly became smarter (or stupider, depending on who you ask)?
No, you changed your opinions because your experiences shifted your moral framework.
But I didn't experience anything. I gathered information from books. I consider those two separate.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:10:20am |
re: #755 christheprofessor
Chris - what DNA profile did you use the second time ? Do you remember the name ? I could look into it for you if you like.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:10:22am |
re: #818 Boogberg
Just a quick note for The Fifth Element fans (who don't have the DVD). You can watch it here to your heart's content. :D
I loved that movie.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:10:24am |
re: #781 DistantThunder
PS - I remember something about Charles saying that he didn't want anymore abortion discussion just because they devolve. We've been studiously avoiding such discussions. I heard this second hand.
Experiences and consequences was the theme regarding lizards we care about. I believe good came from that theme and nothing devolved.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:10:28am |
re: #713 redstateredneck
{ { {aussie} } }!
How are ya'?
Fighting fit, for an old duck :-)
Ready to attend my first demo (I did go to a Nurses Rally for More $$$ in the 80s) on Wednesday to help remove our corrupt, incompetent and nasty State Government
It won't happen as idiot voters got them back in last year and we don't have that recall system here, but I will feel so much better that I've done something rather than just whinge about it
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:10:33am |
re: #730 lawhawk
Morning lawhawk - great post my friend. Yeah, never mind about Ayers and Obama - it's the Sarah Palin's of the World who will endanger democracy the most!
MSM=ratbastids, almost every one of 'em.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:10:40am |
re: #796 mama winger
I hear ya Mandy. I bet you took a few bruises too, just like my sister. Choice my ass.
I moved half-way across the country when I was about four months pregnant but the fucker STILL tried to cause me mental anguish. I sicced my attorney on his attorney.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:11:07am |
re: #814 pingjockey
I have the "Fear of God" speech, the "There are bugs out there drugs can't cure" speech and of course the ultimate threat "Your mom will turn you from a rooster to a hen".
I like the drugs speech. Did you hear that they think they have a case in which a bone marrow transplant can cure HIV? What are those - about a cool Million each? Now we really can save the whole planet./sarc
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Jamie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:11:14am |
re: #802 redstateredneck
My elderly dachshund, Sugarman, would tear the vet a new one if he had the chance. He does pretty well with the assistant, though, so I usually schedule his teeth cleaning to coincide with his annual vaccinations and check up. That way, they can do everything to him when he's in la-la land.
I love dachshunds. Such great personalities. We would always try to schedule as many things as possible for one anesthesia session with ours. She hated the vet.
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:11:27am |
hey...Mr. Beach just sent me this with pats to his own back, of course. I'm sure we have many of the male lizards that would do well on this list as well.
100 Skills Every Man Should Know: 2008's Ultimate DIY List
Add page to favoritesBy The EditorsMore from Popular Mechanics
QUIZ: 15 Questions Test Your DIY Knowledge for a Special PM Score
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PLUS: How to Prepare Your Garden for Winter
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Read More From Popular Mechanics
Brains and charm are fine, but a real guy needs to know how to do real stuff. After months of debate among PM’s expert editors, here’s our lineup of essential skills for the competent man.
Automotive
1. Handle a blowout
2. Drive in snow
3. Check trouble codes
4. Replace fan belt
5. Wax a car
6. Conquer an off-road obstacle
7. Use a stick welder
8. Hitch up a trailer
9. Jump-start a car
Emergencies
10. Perform the Heimlich
11. Reverse hypothermia
12. Perform hands-only CPR
13. Escape a sinking car
Home
14. Carve a turkey
15. Use a sewing machine
16. Put out a fire
17. Home-brew beer
18. Remove bloodstains from fabric
19. Move heavy stuff
20. Grow food
21. Read an electric meter
22. Shovel the right way
23. Solder wire
24. Tape drywall
25. Split firewood
26. Replace a faucet washer
27. Mix concrete
28. Paint a straight line
29. Use a French knife
30. Prune bushes and small trees
31. Iron a shirt
32. Fix a toilet tank flapper
33. Change a single-pole switch
34. Fell a tree
35. Replace a broken windowpane
36. Set up a ladder, safely
37. Fix a faucet cartridge
38. Sweat copper tubing
39. Change a diaper
40. Grill with charcoal
41. Sew a button on a shirt
42. Fold a flag
Medical
43. Treat frostbite
44. Treat a burn
45. Help a seizure victim
46. Treat a snakebite
47. Remove a tick
Military Know-How
48. Shine shoes
49. Make a drum-tight bed
50. Drop and give the perfect pushup
Outdoors
51. Run rapids in a canoe
52. Hang food in the wild
53. Skipper a boat
54. Shoot straight
55. Tackle steep drops on a mountain bike
56. Escape a rip current
Survival
57. Build a fire in the wilderness
58. Build a shelter
59. Find potable water
Surviving Extremes
60. Floods
61. Tornados
62. Cold
63. Heat
64. Lightning
Teach Your Kids
65. Cast a line
66. Lend a hand
67. Change a tire
68. Throw a spiral
69. Fly a stunt kite
70. Drive a stick shift
71. Parallel park
72. Tie a bowline
73. Tie a necktie
74. Whittle
75. Ride a bike
Technology
76. Install a graphics card
77. Take the perfect portrait
78. Calibrate HDTV settings
79. Shoot a home movie
80. Ditch your hard drive
Master These Key Workshop Tools
81. Drill driver
82. Grease gun
83. Coolant hydrometer
84. Socket wrench
85. Test light
86. Brick trowel
87. Framing hammer
88. Wood chisel
89. Spade bit
90. Circular saw
91. Sledge hammer
92. Hacksaw
93. Torque wrench
94. Air wrench
95. Infrared thermometer
96. Sand blaster
97. Crosscut saw
98. Hand plane
99. Multimeter
100. Feeler gauges
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:11:32am |
re: #730 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I can't say that I'm surprised by the "revelation" that Ayers and Obama were close friends. The writing had been on the wall for years. You don't launch your political career in the home of a complete stranger.
Yet, the media continued to treat this as a nonstory while they went on a search to find Trig's real birth parents.
Weren't trig's real parents playing golf with Nicole's real killers?
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SurferDoc Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:11:41am |
re: #818 Boogberg
Just a quick note for The Fifth Element fans (who don't have the DVD). You can watch it here to your heart's content. :D
Thanks! You made my morning. :)
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FrogMarch Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:09am |
Hi all.
Obama's educational and political pal-- Bill Ayres-- is about as low as you can go when it comes to human debris.
Ayres is the harmful bacteria is the turd bucket of life.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:12am |
re: #815 vxbush
And the look of fear begins...
You know, I had a friend who, for a while, thought men were fixed like pigs. His father corrected him post haste.
Nope. We're just pigs.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:23am |
re: #741 {Miss Trixie} Hey there Gorgeous! *smooches* back atcha! Love watching y'all do your happy dance, too!
LOL!
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:28am |
re: #790 Ward Cleaver
Minnesotans should be ashamed if they send Al Franken to Washington.
Listen, this conservative Minnesotan wanted nothing to do with that SOB Franken. I made sure to vote against Franken and for the best candidate Norm Coleman to make sure Franken never sees the inside of the Senate as a Senator. You can blame the DFL (Democrats For Life not Democrats Farm Labor) for this fiasco. They infest the twin cities and the NE areas while damaging this fine state.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:37am |
re: #830 Beach Lover
And I want a man who will show me how to do everything on that list. It doesn't hurt for me to be prepared, either.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:39am |
re: #661 3 wood
I'm pulling for Kerry. Can you imagine the stuff he will say into a microphone?
Me too. I want the Dems and Obama to screw up and overreach as much as possible in the next two years, so that in 2010 the GOP pick up seats in both the House and Senate.
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Big Steve Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:42am |
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:12:54am |
re: #799 The Other Les
We won't send Al Franken to Washington, the Dumb Fascist Looters will.
Seriously... I've never really seen an election be stolen this obviously... And no one is making a big deal about it...
Just when I think we have sunk to our lowest we keep digging...
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christheprofessor Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:13:08am |
Sorry for the delay in responding folks -- I'm back to the damn home page reloading problem when I hit the "reply" button and the usual fix isn't fixing it.
#760 vxbush
Good morning, and thank you kindly -- I could use a cup that size -- yesterday was one of those rare 14 hour days I have to put in...
#764 Bumr50
The full test is now $120 but I didn't pay near that for either the original or the upgraded one.
#791 DistantThunder
It seems like it, that's for sure. Or at least running the business. Took them three weeks to get me the sample kit and over 7 weeks to get the results, which they say will take four weeks.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:13:14am |
re: #764 Bumr50
How much did you pay, if you don't mind me asking? I won't be offended if you don't reply, it's just that we have a schnoodle that I personally don't think has any poodle in her at all.
The DNA test we use costs about $160. There are about 4-5 different ones out there now, and prices may vary depending on which one your vet uses and what area of the country you are in.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:13:42am |
re: #716 legalpad
Take your calcium - My 90 - something year old grandmother said she wanted to die falling out of a tree, and she almost did.
I'm scared of heights :-)
And yes, calcium it is, as I'm NOT having a broken hip when I'm older for sure
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:13:49am |
re: #672 Spare O'Lake
I wonder if there was a valid legal reason for the Judge to exclude the evidence. Maybe it was hearsay evidence which the witness was told by the other cop who did not show up to testify.
If so, then the legal result was correct and there was no "fix".
And why would the reporter have chosen to omit the Judge's reason for excluding the evidence?
I was carful to put "Cook County" in front of the word "judge".
For anybody familiar with how the Chicago Machine works, that is all you need to know.
The legal reason the judge did it is cause the judge felt like it, and in Chicago, when you are tossing out a charge against a machine politician, that is all you need.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:13:55am |
re: #819 vxbush
Ok, I could argue that some experience or change in values led you to read those books or that reading the books was the "experience"... but that's up to you to determine. My point is, you did not suddenly get smarter after reading those books. Your political opinions are not tied to your intelligence level.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:13:59am |
re: #826 MandyManners
I moved half-way across the country when I was about four months pregnant but the fucker STILL tried to cause me mental anguish. I sicced my attorney on his attorney.
I am so very glad that you and the Kid are here and doing FABULOUS.
Living well is the best revenge.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:14:03am |
re: #826 MandyManners
My wife talks about her ex doing the mental shit. I had no idea how that worked. Not a psych major! Nor an abuser/manipulator. She showed me how that thing, I refuse to call it a man., did the mental crap. Absolutely insidious and evil.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:14:19am |
I'm thinking of a chastity belt for The Kid.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:14:49am |
re: #826 MandyManners
I moved half-way across the country when I was about four months pregnant but the fucker STILL tried to cause me mental anguish. I sicced my attorney on his attorney.
I've got one for you. My friend divorced her abusive husband 8 years ago after he broke down the bedroom door and raped her. You can still see all the damage to the molding around the door frame.
Anyway, now they have been ordered by the divorce judge to attend parenting counseling together. She has to sit next to her rapist while he lies to this woman who tells them that parenting is a 50/50 proposition. My friend called me last night after their first session, and she said she felt sick to her stomach as he sat there giving these Mr. Child Psychologist answers.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:15:29am |
re: #841 tfc3rid
Seriously... I've never really seen an election be stolen this obviously... And no one is making a big deal about it...
Just when I think we have sunk to our lowest we keep digging...
Maybe the Iraqis could come to Minnesota & teach them about honest elections.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:15:35am |
re: #847 mama winger
I am so very glad that you and the Kid are here and doing FABULOUS.
Living well is the best revenge.
Thanks, mama. It's been a long and crazy road.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:15:52am |
re: #839 Ward Cleaver
Me too. I want the Dems and Obama to screw up and overreach as much as possible in the next two years, so that in 2010 the GOP pick up seats in both the House and Senate.
One would hope... Especially since in 2012, Congress will get to redesign their districts post-Census...
And, there aren't that many more seats for the GOP to seemingly lose...
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:16:03am |
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:16:33am |
re: #830 Beach Lover
Hah! I can do all that shit except use a sewing machine!
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:16:34am |
re: #846 Kenneth
Ok, I could argue that some experience or change in values led you to read those books or that reading the books was the "experience"... but that's up to you to determine. My point is, you did not suddenly get smarter after reading those books. Your political opinions are not tied to your intelligence level.
Oh, I see what you mean. Well, my IQ did not change, and the field of information I used to determine my position was enlarged and included more valid data. So I see your point.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:17:00am |
re: #765 MandyManners
Hey Mandy - for what little it's worth, I'm glad you were strong enough to resist the s.o.b. - from everything you've written out here, it sounds to me like you done right raising the kiddo!
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:17:03am |
re: #830 Beach Lover
Pretty much everything a kid can learn in Scouts. I noticed there were no sexual skills listed - and it did say a "competent man."
Maybe male sexual skills needs it's own list of 100.
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christheprofessor Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:17:30am |
#821 Mama Winger
I'll pop you an e-mail with the name of the company -- I don't want to post it.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:17:43am |
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:18:01am |
re: #860 christheprofessor
#821 Mama Winger
I'll pop you an e-mail with the name of the company -- I don't want to post it.
Good deal.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:18:19am |
re: #853 tfc3rid
One would hope... Especially since in 2012, Congress will get to redesign their districts post-Census...
And, there aren't that many more seats for the GOP to seemingly lose...
It's the states that get to redraw districts, and Sunbelt states should pick up even more seats, at the expense of the Northeast.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:18:27am |
re: #852 MandyManners
Thanks, mama. It's been a long and crazy road.
Well, you know that you have many supporters here as you travel down that road. And your ex is an ass.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:18:42am |
re: #848 pingjockey
My wife talks about her ex doing the mental shit. I had no idea how that worked. Not a psych major! Nor an abuser/manipulator. She showed me how that thing, I refuse to call it a man., did the mental crap. Absolutely insidious and evil.
Showing up in the middle of the night, sometimes drunk, demanding sex or threatening to bring a hooker to do the deed in the drive or in my bed. Trying to cut the power off in the middle of the winter (it cost a small chunk of change to have my attorney fix that). Driving by really slowly. Emptying the bank account and leaving me hundreds and hundreds of dollars in debt to the bank and merchants. I could go on but, I reckon you get the gist.
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christheprofessor Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:19:35am |
#821 mama
Can you pop me an e-mail instead? I can't find your addy...
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:19:55am |
re: #850 DistantThunder
I've got one for you. My friend divorced her abusive husband 8 years ago after he broke down the bedroom door and raped her. You can still see all the damage to the molding around the door frame.
Anyway, now they have been ordered by the divorce judge to attend parenting counseling together. She has to sit next to her rapist while he lies to this woman who tells them that parenting is a 50/50 proposition. My friend called me last night after their first session, and she said she felt sick to her stomach as he sat there giving these Mr. Child Psychologist answers.
Why hasn't her attorney requested separate sessions? A restraining order? Doesn't the judge give a flying fuck about the rape?
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:20:14am |
re: #865 MandyManners
Showing up in the middle of the night, sometimes drunk, demanding sex or threatening to bring a hooker to do the deed in the drive or in my bed. Trying to cut the power off in the middle of the winter (it cost a small chunk of change to have my attorney fix that). Driving by really slowly. Emptying the bank account and leaving me hundreds and hundreds of dollars in debt to the bank and merchants. I could go on but, I reckon you get the gist.
So you married a three year old brat?///
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:20:19am |
re: #848 pingjockey
My wife talks about her ex doing the mental shit. I had no idea how that worked. Not a psych major! Nor an abuser/manipulator. She showed me how that thing, I refuse to call it a man., did the mental crap. Absolutely insidious and evil.
It's very evil. Try imagining how that game would be played by a guy who is an engineer who just happens to have super top secret clearance. It is a nightmare for my friend.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:20:22am |
re: #863 Ward Cleaver
It's the states that get to redraw districts, and Sunbelt states should pick up even more seats, at the expense of the Northeast.
I live in the Northeast, and the way the votes have gone recently we should lose seats.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:20:25am |
re: #865 MandyManners
Showing up in the middle of the night, sometimes drunk, demanding sex or threatening to bring a hooker to do the deed in the drive or in my bed. Trying to cut the power off in the middle of the winter (it cost a small chunk of change to have my attorney fix that). Driving by really slowly. Emptying the bank account and leaving me hundreds and hundreds of dollars in debt to the bank and merchants. I could go on but, I reckon you get the gist.
Yuck. Yuck. See, this is where shame is needed, as you needed a posse of good men like the Lizards here to stand around you and glare at this guy. Repeatedly. At every street corner, in every store. I think he would have gotten the hint. Maybe.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:20:57am |
re: #857 realwest
Hey Mandy - for what little it's worth, I'm glad you were strong enough to resist the s.o.b. - from everything you've written out here, it sounds to me like you done right raising the kiddo!
I wonder at times if I'm doing it right but, there is no manual so I gotta' play it by ear.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:21:20am |
re: #875 MandyManners
I wonder at times if I'm doing it right but, there is no manual so I gotta' play it by ear.
Hey, you have the whacking stick. You've earned that sucker.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:21:36am |
re: #865 MandyManners
Yep. Too bad we can't just some ol' time vigilante justice to fix things like that! They walk about on 2 legs and resemble humans but are some kind of devils minions.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:21:36am |
re: #869 MandyManners
Why hasn't her attorney requested separate sessions? A restraining order? Doesn't the judge give a flying fuck about the rape?
I'm shocked at that, too. What planet is that judge living on? Planet Hooters?
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:22:03am |
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:22:32am |
re: #864 Ford_Prefect
Well, you know that you have many supporters here as you travel down that road. And your ex is an ass.
I look for the day that he dies so that I can go after his estate for back child-support.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:22:32am |
re: #759 Spare O'Lake
OK, so then the "fixer" was not the Judge, but the Police.
Well, that's much more comforting.//
Not to be pedantic, but the "fixer" was the machine.
In Chicago they control the courts, the legal system, the voting system, the media.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:22:57am |
re: #865 MandyManners
Showing up in the middle of the night, sometimes drunk, demanding sex or threatening to bring a hooker to do the deed in the drive or in my bed.
WTF? Oh that's classy! Next time, try flowers...
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Boogberg Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:22:58am |
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:03am |
re: #868 christheprofessor
#821 mama
Can you pop me an e-mail instead? I can't find your addy...
I can't find yours either - ha!
I'm not shy about sharing it
mamawinger at dellmail dot com
This tape will self destruct in 60 seconds ...
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:04am |
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:13am |
re: #800 realwest
" I need unshaky hands to give injections" - don't know why, shaky hands have neve bothered any nurses I've run into!
Or maybe it was me who was shaking?! Hmmm.
;')
LOL! Plenty of people hate getting injections and they do shake - I try to shake in synch with them while giving the injection :-)
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:23am |
re: #870 midwestgak
So you married a three year old brat?///
No. A 35-year-old member of US Special Forces. Fucking sociopath.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:33am |
re: #880 MandyManners
I look for the day that he dies so that I can go after his estate for back child-support.
Yeah buddy!
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:48am |
re: #869 MandyManners
Why hasn't her attorney requested separate sessions? A restraining order? Doesn't the judge give a flying fuck about the rape?
She has no attorney because she used a private attorney for the divorce 8 years ago and now she can't afford one. Because it is a custody related issue - legal aid said they won't touch it - also because she already had a private attorney for the divorce.
Oh, and the reason he raped her is because she told him she's put the kids on a waiting list to sign them up for catechism. His new wife - of 8 years - has now become an alcoholic - I wonder why.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:48am |
re: #830 Beach Lover
Hey, {beachie}
I've got a few to add to the list.
;-)
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:23:55am |
re: #809 vxbush
ROTFL! Good morning to you {vxbush} hope you're doing ok today - friend of mine puts some chocolate flavored liquer into his coffee in the morning, says it always sets him up well for whatever the day may bring!
I'm NOT ADVOCATING drinking of spirits in the morning (or any other time, being a recovered alcoholic myself) ya understand, but chocolate and coffee contmeporaneously would, I'd bet, make you a very happy camper in the morning! LOL!
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:24:08am |
re: #887 Beach Lover
slacker
Yeah, well I can only use my grandmother's 100-year-old sewing machine. It's not a treddle, but was converted to a box with an external motor. Newfangled ones make me nervous.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:24:11am |
re: #887 Beach Lover
I know, terrible. Was properly folding the US flag on that list?
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:24:23am |
re: #881 3 wood
Not to be pedantic, but the "fixer" was the machine.
In Chicago they control the courts, the legal system, the voting system, the media.
It's hard for folks not from here to grasp the pervasive and ruthless enormity of it.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:24:31am |
re: #888 aussiemagpie
LOL! Plenty of people hate getting injections and they do shake - I try to shake in synch with them while giving the injection :-)
I always just look away.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:24:42am |
re: #874 vxbush
Yuck. Yuck. See, this is where shame is needed, as you needed a posse of good men like the Lizards here to stand around you and glare at this guy. Repeatedly. At every street corner, in every store. I think he would have gotten the hint. Maybe.
The disapproval of society *might* have worked because it would've affected the image others had of him.
Nah.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:25:33am |
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:25:33am |
re: #893 realwest
ROTFL! Good morning to you {vxbush} hope you're doing ok today - friend of mine puts some chocolate flavored liquer into his coffee in the morning, says it always sets him up well for whatever the day may bring!
I'm NOT ADVOCATING drinking of spirits in the morning (or any other time, being a recovered alcoholic myself) ya understand, but chocolate and coffee contmeporaneously would, I'd bet, make you a very happy camper in the morning! LOL!
See, I have a problem with that. I don't drink, so no worries there. But the coffee takes away room for the chocolate. That's not acceptable.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:25:48am |
re: #852 MandyManners
Thanks, mama. It's been a long and crazy road.
glad to have met you along the 'road'!
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:25:56am |
re: #765 MandyManners
Dickhead tried to do that with me. When I refused to do so, he tried to induce one by harassing me relentlessly and driving me around the bend.
The man was/is sick.
Every time my wife was expecting, I did not want her to even walk stairs for fear of something happening. I think normal husbands would feel that way.
She finally had to tell me once that she was pregnant, not dying.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:26:02am |
Gonna' hafta' take a walk around the yard. BP is high. bbiab
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:26:27am |
re: #770 joncelli
Got it. Just switched from Firefox. We'll see...
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:26:38am |
re: #889 MandyManners
No. A 35-year-old member of US Special Forces. Fucking sociopath.
ooh. Are you safe now?
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:27:05am |
re: #889 MandyManners
No shit!? I know 3 guys who're SEALS and their psych exam was crazy. All of them very low key, calm when all about are losing their heads, etc...Special forces I would think would screen better than to let a sociopath any where near weapons and training of that type. Sheesh.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:27:17am |
re: #859 DistantThunder
Maybe male sexual skills needs it's own list of 100.
You need to find the dwarf who guards the cave.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:27:19am |
re: #880 MandyManners
I look for the day that he dies so that I can go after his estate for back child-support.
Unfortunately you will have to get in line behind Obama and his croneys for that money.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:27:25am |
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:27:44am |
re: #896 mama winger
It's hard for folks not from here to grasp the pervasive and ruthless enormity of it.
I was born there - lived there till 12 - heard the stories from parents. The Democrat party is like a large ferocious territorial tribe. They do "honor killings" of careers and businesses. And more.
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:28:01am |
re: #903 3 wood
The man was/is sick.
Every time my wife was expecting, I did not want her to even walk stairs for fear of something happening. I think normal husbands would feel that way.
She finally had to tell me once that she was pregnant, not dying.
LOL. Sweet
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:28:03am |
re: #903 3 wood
The man was/is sick.
Every time my wife was expecting, I did not want her to even walk stairs for fear of something happening. I think normal husbands would feel that way.
She finally had to tell me once that she was pregnant, not dying.
My husband was so sweet when I was pregnant and I got preeclampsia (sp?). I had to stay in bed all the time, and he was so considerate and made sure that I was in place, that I had everything I needed, etc. etc. I think the doctor put the fear of God into him. :D
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:28:14am |
re: #837 Iron Fist
LOL! Thanks Bro' - although I think it'd be more correct to say Mayor Daley, not as brutally corrupt as Al Capone! LOL!
How are you doing today?
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:28:28am |
re: #903 3 wood
Heh! My wife said basically the same thing. "I'm not made of glass".
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:28:42am |
re: #913 DistantThunder
Yep. You don't mess with the Chicago Machine. evah
And now it moves to Washington. happy happy joy joy
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UFO TOFU Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:01am |
re: #855 pingjockey
Hah! I can do all that shit except use a sewing machine!
I can't get the bed-making thing down.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:09am |
re: #897 Ward Cleaver
I always just look away.
Yes I always advise that - catching fainting people is not fun !
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:17am |
re: #737 mama winger
My sister was bullied into an abortion by her first husband. He told her he would throw her out of the house if she didn't have an abortion. Then he proceeded to do it anyway a week later. She still mourns. That was 25 years ago.
Back in the years, I suffered 10 miscarriages. Each was the loss of a child, and each was - and is still mourned. I cannot fathom what the grief would be like with the added aspect of guilt.
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:24am |
re: #892 redstateredneck
Yea..me, too! How you doin', {red}?
Hafta run and get ready to face the crazies.
Have a great weekend all y'all!
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:26am |
re: #903 3 wood
Hey my girlfriend calls her ex "dickhead." In fact the whole family does.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:37am |
re: #841 tfc3rid
Seriously... I've never really seen an election be stolen this obviously... And no one is making a big deal about it...
Just when I think we have sunk to our lowest we keep digging...
And the local edition of Pravda Star-Tribune will celebrate it as an expression of the Will Of The People.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:37am |
re: #917 pingjockey
Heh! My wife said basically the same thing. "I'm not made of glass".
Not me. I shouted "I AM MADE OF GLASS!"
I milked it for all it was worth. Didn't vacuum or do laundry for years :)
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:29:49am |
re: #918 mama winger
Yep. You don't mess with the Chicago Machine. evah
And now it moves to Washington. happy happy joy joy
They may have met their match. We have not yet been subjugated.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:10am |
re: #894 vxbush
Yeah, well I can only use my grandmother's 100-year-old sewing machine. It's not a treddle, but was converted to a box with an external motor. Newfangled ones make me nervous.
My mom's is a 1947 model Singer (one of the black ones with gold trim), that she bought new. It's in a cabinet, with the lever you push on with your knee. My grandmother (her mom) had the same kind, and sewed clothes, quilts, doll clothes, you name it. She had all kinds of sewing stuff, like one of those things for marking hems, that used the yardstick thing and a sliding bottle full of talcum powder that you puffed out of a slot with a rubber bulb and hose. Don't think we didn't play with that as kids.
She also had a machine (hand-operated) for pressing eyelets into belts. My aunts got all of that stuff after she passed away.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:10am |
re: #913 DistantThunder
It's not any better here in Pittsburgh.
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:15am |
re: #919 UFO TOFU
The secret is in the hospital corners. They help pull the rest of the sheet, blanket tight.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:34am |
re: #917 pingjockey
Heh! My wife said basically the same thing. "I'm not made of glass".
I just remember my wife crying because she needed a chicken sandwich from Burger King.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:46am |
re: #863 Ward Cleaver
It's the states that get to redraw districts, and Sunbelt states should pick up even more seats, at the expense of the Northeast.
But is that a good thing? We have seen FL trend blue, NC trend blue and even GA and SC close in on blue...
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:51am |
re: #921 GGMac
Back in the years, I suffered 10 miscarriages. Each was the loss of a child, and each was - and is still mourned. I cannot fathom what the grief would be like with the added aspect of guilt.
Oh my dear - I can't imagine that kind of grief. {GGMac}
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:53am |
re: #797 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Minnesotans should be ashamed that they sent Al Franken to Saturday Night Live in the first place.
Well, I try to look on the bright side.
Can you imagine the goofy stuff this guy will say into microphones over the next 6 years?
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:30:56am |
re: #921 GGMac
Back in the years, I suffered 10 miscarriages. Each was the loss of a child, and each was - and is still mourned. I cannot fathom what the grief would be like with the added aspect of guilt.
I had 11 - never knew of anyone else in the double digits. But I do have 7 wonderful children - who do drive me a little crazy.
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:31:04am |
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:31:27am |
re: #930 Who Watches the Watchmen?
I just remember my wife crying because she needed a chicken sandwich from Burger King.
RIGHT NOW ! !
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:31:28am |
re: #925 mama winger
My better half still doesn't, much. Told her she was very lucky...got the navy trained model!
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:31:42am |
re: #925 mama winger
Not me. I shouted "I AM MADE OF GLASS!"
I milked it for all it was worth. Didn't vacuum or do laundry for years :)
My favorite memory of when I was pregnant: I was laying down on the sofa, resting in the middle of the afternoon, and my cat was trying to lay on my belly. But the baby was restless and doing somersaults, handstands, karate, you name it. The cat was freaking out watching my belly squirm, jump, and shake.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:32:21am |
re: #936 mama winger
RIGHT NOW ! !
My husband would keep - and to this day still keeps a secret stash of chocolate for when I run out and it's 11pm.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:32:44am |
re: #915 vxbush
My husband was so sweet when I was pregnant and I got preeclampsia (sp?). I had to stay in bed all the time, and he was so considerate and made sure that I was in place, that I had everything I needed, etc. etc. I think the doctor put the fear of God into him. :D
My wife had that as well. Our daughter was born 10 weeks early at 2 pounds 10 ounces. She spent 8 weeks in the NICU. I cannot say enough about the amazing people who work there and the work that they do.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:32:52am |
re: #918 mama winger
Yep. You don't mess with the Chicago Machine. evah
And now it moves to Washington. happy happy joy joy
It's going to be interesting to watch Sarah Barracuda go after them in 2012.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:32:55am |
re: #938 vxbush
Now THAT would make a great video! LOL!
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:08am |
re: #935 Beach Lover
Good. Helped the boys down at my sons elementary school learn how to fold the flag. Once we got it done the look on their faces was one of those to make you want to bust with pride.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:10am |
re: #939 DistantThunder
My husband would keep - and to this day still keeps a secret stash of chocolate for when I run out and it's 11pm.
Now THAT is a smart man.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:18am |
re: #901 vxbush
"But the coffee takes away room for the chocolate. That's not acceptable."
ROTFL! Well see now, I never thought of that!
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:19am |
re: #939 DistantThunder
My husband would keep - and to this day still keeps a secret stash of chocolate for when I run out and it's 11pm.
Good man. Smart man.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:25am |
re: #919 UFO TOFU
I can't get the bed-making thing down.
My mr. can't grasp the need to make the bed. His philosophy is you're gonna get back in it. I cannot get into an unmade bed. It just feels nasty to me!
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Beach Lover Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:36am |
re: #919 UFO TOFU
I can't get the bed-making thing down.
Hey {tofu}! Yea. Mr. Beach said he has some issues with that one...but that was the only one he admitted to. Guess those boy scout sessions paid off.
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DeafDog Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:47am |
re: #931 tfc3rid
But is that a good thing? We have seen FL trend blue, NC trend blue and even GA and SC close in on blue...
Take heart. Trends like this don't go on forever.
Eventually, folks will look at the blue states, compare them with the red states, and realize that the red states are doing much better than the blue. Compare Texas and Michigan, for example, to see the LT impacts of socialism vs. capitalism. It'll happen eventually - I just don't know when.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:33:59am |
re: #871 MandyManners
Why not?
Hormones. Raging hormones. Opposite sex attraction. Doing something dangerous. Checking it out. Chasity belts don't work.
Instilling your values in them while praying for the best is about the best chances you have.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:34:23am |
re: #839 Ward Cleaver
re: #661 3 wood
I'm pulling for Kerry. Can you imagine the stuff he will say into a microphone?
Me too. I want the Dems and Obama to screw up and overreach as much as possible in the next two years, so that in 2010 the GOP pick up seats in both the House and Senate.
In addition, there is no way I can see Obama being dumb enough to let a Clinton into his cabinet.
No way.
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aussiemagpie Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:34:39am |
Hypocrite story number 5,672,000 for 2008
Sir Bob Geldorf asks for $100,000 to speak about global poverty *spit*
ANTI-poverty campaigner Sir Bob Geldof has charged Australian organisers $100,000 to give a speech about world suffering.
Geldof, 54, spoke about the tragedy of Third World poverty and the failure of governments to combat the crisis at a Crown casino function in Melbourne on Thursday night.
But he charged about $100,000 for his troubles - a speakers fee that included the cost of luxury hotel rooms and first-class airfares.
Fellow activist, World Vision CEO the Reverend Tim Costello, spoke for free. An event insider said the Geldof payments, which included the costs of a minder, appeared hypocritical
Appeared hypocritical?
Bedtime here, so good night and see you all again soon!
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:34:57am |
re: #853 tfc3rid
One would hope... Especially since in 2012, Congress will get to redesign their districts post-Census...
And, there aren't that many more seats for the GOP to seemingly lose...
The one party elections that the Soviets used to stage as a ritual of legitimization were more honest.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:34:58am |
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:35:04am |
re: #945 realwest
"But the coffee takes away room for the chocolate. That's not acceptable."
ROTFL! Well see now, I never thought of that!
Don't worry. We'll get you trained yet on the ways of women and chocolate. In my case, however, the love of chocolate came from my father. It found its perfect expression in me.
/
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:35:12am |
Gentlemen, after 10 yrs of marriage, I always have a secret choclate stash for the better half! That oughta be on that list too.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:35:14am |
re: #921 GGMac
Back in the years, I suffered 10 miscarriages. Each was the loss of a child, and each was - and is still mourned. I cannot fathom what the grief would be like with the added aspect of guilt.
Ten! God bless you. My first baby was still born (cord accident). I gave myself a couple of months, and then got pregnant again. My healthy daughter was born the next year. Bad thing was, I felt like I was pregnant for two years!
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:35:16am |
re: #934 DistantThunder
I had 11 - never knew of anyone else in the double digits. But I do have 7 wonderful children - who do drive me a little crazy.
My heart goes out to you . . .
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:35:52am |
re: #909 pingjockey
It may have been his time in the Special Forces (Green Berets) that made him that way.
Military usually doesn't go looking for boy scouts when they're looking for Seals, Special Forces, Marine Force Recon or Rangers, ya know?!
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:37:09am |
re: #953 aussiemagpie
I think I read an interview with him and George Bush that actually sort of helped humanize Bush. I'm sure whatever magazine it was in treated Bush as a sort of space alien.
I think they spoke about Bush's help in Africa, and that maybe he wasn't ALL evil.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:37:13am |
re: #947 redstateredneck
I think Mr. Redstate is on to something there. I'm gonna have to try that one with Mrs. Tofu!
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:37:30am |
re: #962 realwest
It may have been his time in the Special Forces (Green Berets) that made him that way.
Military usually doesn't go looking for boy scouts when they're looking for Seals, Special Forces, Marine Force Recon or Rangers, ya know?!
I don't know. I have a friend who was Special Forces. He is lethal, but he also has the biggest heart I know.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:37:47am |
re: #962 realwest
It may have been his time in the Special Forces (Green Berets) that made him that way.
Military usually doesn't go looking for boy scouts when they're looking for Seals, Special Forces, Marine Force Recon or Rangers, ya know?!
My son was offered a slot for special forces training after finishing SAR. His comment? No thanks I want a normal family.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:37:52am |
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:38:06am |
re: #962 realwest
No but they do look for specific psych profiles. Gun nuts, explosive nuts, etc...are right out! They look for calm deliberate folks, usually. Or at least that is just from my personal experience. Of course I could be out to lunch too!
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:38:33am |
re: #964 UFO TOFU
I think Mr. Redstate is on to something there. I'm gonna have to try that one with Mrs. Tofu!
I usually leave the house before he does, so I make the bed when I come home from work!
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:38:34am |
re: #931 tfc3rid
But is that a good thing? We have seen FL trend blue, NC trend blue and even GA and SC close in on blue...
Sadly, a lot of places are trending blue, thanks to the brainwashing in the public schools.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:38:46am |
re: #918 mama winger
Yep. You don't mess with the Chicago Machine. evah
And now it moves to Washington. happy happy joy joy
Yeah, what a joy. As has been said before, in that very famous phrase, the Machine "don't want nobody that nobody sent". What it means is that they only want their own hand-picked people, not just any Tom, Dick, or Harry from off the street. It's a mafia mentality.
Chicago politics is all about clout; who knows who, and how they can leverage that. It will now infest the White House for the next four years.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:38:50am |
I'm reminded of that movie with Tommie Lee Jones and Benicio del Toro.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:39:01am |
I guess Obama is a basketball nut. What else is he and expert in?
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:39:15am |
re: #954 Bumr50
This place is gold! Great advice!
I have learned so much over the years here, I can't even begin to tell ya. It's like a brainiac potluck. :)
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:39:18am |
re: #790 Ward Cleaver
Minnesotans should be ashamed if they send Al Franken to Washington.
Why? they lost their shame years ago when they elected a pro wrestler for Governor..
/how's it going Ward?
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:39:23am |
re: #921 GGMac
re: #934 DistantThunder
You are both incredibly strong women. I am humbled.
Yes, incredibly strong women! I'm honored to get to 'hang-out' with y'all, occasionally!
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:39:28am |
re: #889 MandyManners
No. A 35-year-old member of US Special Forces. Fucking sociopath.
Which SF Group?
I knew an NCO from the 3rd SFG. He starts out as a perfectly cool and rational guy and then he turns around and joins the National Alliance after he retires from the Army. Losing a friend and mentor like that sucked.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:39:33am |
re: #966 Perplexed
My son was offered a slot for special forces training after finishing SAR. His comment? No thanks I want a normal family.
It turns some into great men and leaders, and others into psychos.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:40:02am |
re: #973 DistantThunder
I guess Obama is a basketball nut. What else is he and expert in?
Building pipe bombs?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:40:15am |
re: #970 Ward Cleaver
Sadly, a lot of places are trending blue, thanks to the brainwashing in the public schools.
And with liberals leaving the places they've f'd up & settling in traditionally red states.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:40:18am |
re: #894 vxbush
Hey vx, I got some chocolate if you need it :)
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:40:27am |
re: #973 DistantThunder
I guess Obama is a basketball nut. What else is he and expert in?
Marxism, communism, Maoism, Stalinism, spending other people's money without accomplishing anything.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:40:31am |
re: #950 Perplexed
Hormones. Raging hormones. Opposite sex attraction. Doing something dangerous. Checking it out. Chasity belts don't work.
Instilling your values in them while praying for the best is about the best chances you have.
I intend to lock my daughters bedroom door when she turns 13 and leave it locked until she is about 30.
/kidding...sort of.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:40:31am |
re: #974 mama winger
I have learned so much over the years here, I can't even begin to tell ya. It's like a brainiac potluck. :)
And I don't have to bring a 'covered dish' - I get all I need right here!
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midwestgak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:40:45am |
re: #941 Who Watches the Watchmen?
It's going to be interesting to watch Sarah Barracuda go after them in 2012.
She's going after them in 2010 too!
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:01am |
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:04am |
re: #975 HoosierHoops
Why? they lost their shame years ago when they elected a pro wrestler for Governor..
/how's it going Ward?
I'm doing okay. Trying to get the kids ready for school in driving June nuts, though. Gotta work on that.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:10am |
re: #966 Perplexed
My son was offered a slot for special forces training after finishing SAR. His comment? No thanks I want a normal family.
Mine too.
He chose to be an Army Chaplain instead. Attack the enemy from kind of a different angle :)
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:11am |
re: #953 aussiemagpie
Well hell aussie - ya know dope doesnt' come cheap these days - or so I'm told.
Fucking Colin Powell used to get $100,000 speaker's fee PLUS a private jet to take him to and from speaking engagements.
I listened to one of 'em, and he was VERY GOOD but not $100k good.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:15am |
re: #970 Ward Cleaver
Around here (Pittsburgh, PA) we're bluer from both ends of the age spectrum. The older population is growing due to, well, time, and they all seem to think that a Republican vote equals less money for them.
The local Dems have done a splendid job of scaring them.
I'm reminded of the SNL spoof with Sam Waterston selling Robot Insurance.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:35am |
re: #868 christheprofessor
CTP!
I saw upthread that you found out that your dog is...
...an American :)
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:38am |
re: #975 HoosierHoops
Why? they lost their shame years ago when they elected a pro wrestler for Governor..
/how's it going Ward?
If only one of our states would elect Carl Weathers governor, the entire cast of Predator could be governors.
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fish Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:38am |
I heard reports that "The One" is Considering Hillary Clinton as Sec. of State. I just want to say for the record that out of all the moonbats that share his world view that he could pick, Hillary scares me the least.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:47am |
re: #981 3 wood
Hey vx, I got some chocolate if you need it :)
Nope, I'm good. Chocolate from Switzerland, made from cacao beans from Cuba. Gift from the daughter.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:48am |
This is funny; a lesson in economics (okay, mismanagement probably plays a larger role, but still...): Nonprofit eatery can't bring home bacon
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:41:50am |
re: #941 Who Watches the Watchmen?
It's going to be interesting to watch Sarah Barracuda go after them in 2012.
Her type of politician is the antidote to the Machine. They see what she did to the Alaska Good-Ole-Boy system, and know it can happen to them. Why do you think the attacks were most vicious toward her? They fear her reform-minded type of politician for it is an antibiotic to their infection.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:42:02am |
re: #978 Ward Cleaver
It turns some into great men and leaders, and others into psychos.
He was afraid of being turned into a psycho. He was and is, friends with many SEALS, but it wasn't for him.
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:42:12am |
re: #984 outsidephilly
And I don't have to bring a 'covered dish' - I get all I need right here!
Hahaha - you will need to provide the Lime Green Jello for next week's meeting tho. :)
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:42:15am |
re: #990 Bumr50
Around here (Pittsburgh, PA) we're bluer from both ends of the age spectrum. The older population is growing due to, well, time, and they all seem to think that a Republican vote equals less money for them.
The local Dems have done a splendid job of scaring them.
I'm reminded of the SNL spoof with Sam Waterston selling Robot Insurance.
Sad. But on the other hand, GO STEELERS!
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:42:24am |
re: #982 Perplexed
A non-contact sport.
Watching his election reminded me of a Globetrotters-Generals game.
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father_of_10 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:42:27am |
re: #1 Wyatt Earp
Here's a creepy fact from across the pond. UK Sperm Banks in Need of a Bailout. Eww.
I think I would be due a bonus payment . . .
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:42:55am |
re: #994 vxbush
Nope, I'm good. Chocolate from Switzerland, made from cacao beans from Cuba. Gift from the daughter.
Such a kind daughter . . .
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:43:06am |
re: #983 Ford_Prefect
I intend to lock my daughters bedroom door when she turns 13 and leave it locked until she is about 30.
/kidding...sort of.
Good luck with that.
/mother of two daughers
;-)
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mama winger Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:43:11am |
re: #996 Honorary Yooper
Her type of politician is the antidote to the Machine. They see what she did to the Alaska Good-Ole-Boy system, and know it can happen to them. Why do you think the attacks were most vicious toward her? They fear her reform-minded type of politician for it is an antibiotic to their infection.
ABSOLUTELY ! ! Bingo !
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:43:44am |
Sigh, the rain has eased off a bit, so I'm off on my garbage bag toting journey.
BBIAW!
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:43:45am |
re: #990 Bumr50
Around here (Pittsburgh, PA) we're bluer from both ends of the age spectrum. The older population is growing due to, well, time, and they all seem to think that a Republican vote equals less money for them.
The local Dems have done a splendid job of scaring them.
I'm reminded of the SNL spoof with Sam Waterston selling Robot Insurance.
Sad. But on the other hand, GO STEELERS!
Sad. But on the other hand, GO EAGLES!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:43:50am |
re: #990 Bumr50
Around here (Pittsburgh, PA) we're bluer from both ends of the age spectrum. The older population is growing due to, well, time, and they all seem to think that a Republican vote equals less money for them.
The local Dems have done a splendid job of scaring them.
I'm reminded of the SNL spoof with Sam Waterston selling Robot Insurance.
LOL! "Robots need old people's medicine to survive. Because robots are scary & made of metal."
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father_of_10 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:44:04am |
re: #993 fish
I heard reports that "The One" is Considering Hillary Clinton as Sec. of State. I just want to say for the record that out of all the moonbats that share his world view that he could pick, Hillary scares me the least.
I happen to agree with that. The man is liable to pick just about the worst we can imagine; and I can imagine lots worse than Hillary.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:44:04am |
re: #1003 outsidephilly
Such a kind daughter . . .
Oh, she knows I need a plentiful supply, so she tries to help out. :D
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:44:11am |
re: #913 DistantThunder
I was born there - lived there till 12 - heard the stories from parents. The Democrat party is like a large ferocious territorial tribe. They do "honor killings" of careers and businesses. And more.
Good. Someone else who understands what I've been talking about.
In Chicago, you either submit to the Machine, or you move out. There is no 3rd way. That is why DuPage county (the next county west of Cook) is almost all republican.
Well, that machine is now going to Washington.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:44:29am |
re: #995 UFO TOFU
This is funny; a lesson in economics (okay, mismanagement probably plays a larger role, but still...): Nonprofit eatery can't bring home bacon
One World Cafe, where patrons set prices, has had trouble paying employees
I'd call that mismanagement.
"Steak and eggs? I'll give you 50 cents."
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pingjockey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:44:41am |
Y'all have a great Friday/Saturday depending on your global time zone!
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:44:58am |
re: #983 Ford_Prefect
I intend to lock my daughters bedroom door when she turns 13 and leave it locked until she is about 30.
/kidding...sort of.
Ford, how did you behave when you were a teen? Trends follow in families.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:00am |
re: #973 DistantThunder
I guess Obama is a basketball nut. What else is he and expert in?
Basketball nut? LOL
He is pretty good and plays the wing..nice shot..Not much of a lane man but he is skinny so understandable he doesn't want to bang under the boards.
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:00am |
re: #1012 3 wood
Good. Someone else who understands what I've been talking about.
In Chicago, you either submit to the Machine, or you move out. There is no 3rd way. That is why DuPage county (the next county west of Cook) is almost all republican.
Well, that machine is now going to Washington.
That must be the county with all the Walmarts.
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ChicagoBlue Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:02am |
re: #963 Bumr50
Geldof and Bush Article ~
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1717934,00.html
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:05am |
re: #1011 vxbush
Oh, she knows I need a plentiful supply, so she tries to help out. :D
Its wonderful when a child really knows the parent!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:17am |
re: #1001 Bumr50
A non-contact sport.
Watching his election reminded me of a Globetrotters-Generals game.
"They were using a freaking ladder!"
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:18am |
re: #982 Perplexed
Marxism, communism, Maoism, Stalinism, spending other people's money without accomplishing anything.
And the God-King thing.
Our motto is APOTHEOSIS NOW!
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:24am |
re: #1014 pingjockey
Y'all have a great Friday/Saturday depending on your global time zone!
Friday, here
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christheprofessor Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:41am |
#991 unclassifiable
Dude! How's my favorite unique human lima bean? (now that would be an interesting DNA composition...
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DistantThunder Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:45:48am |
re: #1016 HoosierHoops
Basketball nut? LOL
He is pretty good and plays the wing..nice shot..Not much of a lane man but he is skinny so understandable he doesn't want to bang under the boards.
As opposed to gun nut.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:46:17am |
re: #1017 DistantThunder
That must be the county with all the Walmarts.
I think the machine came to philly
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:46:19am |
re: #774 Perplexed
You did good. Taking responsibility is tough, but the right thing to do.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:46:24am |
re: #881 3 wood
Not to be pedantic, but the "fixer" was the machine.
In Chicago they control the courts, the legal system, the voting system, the media.
I hear you. I suppose it's amazing that the charge in this case was ever laid in the first place, or that the case ever got to Court.
Maybe the machine has a few squeaky cogs.
Hmm...Looking on the bright side, I wonder if there's enough room under the bus for the entire Chicago machine - we know BHO will try to dump them if it suits him.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:46:28am |
re: #1016 HoosierHoops
Basketball nut? LOL
He is pretty good and plays the wing..nice shot..Not much of a lane man but he is skinny so understandable he doesn't want to bang under the boards.
I wish my basketball-raised husband would analyze Obama's playing style. He can decipher a lot about people based on how they play.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:46:43am |
re: #1001 Bumr50
A non-contact sport.
Watching his election reminded me of a Globetrotters-Generals game.
Was like putting a pickup hockey team up against a team composed of banned (for excessive violence) professional hockey players.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:46:48am |
re: #995 UFO TOFU
This is funny; a lesson in economics (okay, mismanagement probably plays a larger role, but still...): Nonprofit eatery can't bring home bacon
I think Rush was talking about that yesterday. I didn't hear the whole thing, but the gist of it sounded like it must have been that article.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:47:39am |
re: #930 Who Watches the Watchmen?
I just remember my wife crying because she needed a chicken sandwich from Burger King.
Mine did the same thing in a White Hen cause they were out of ice cream drum sticks. She could not get enough of them with our 3rd child.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:47:40am |
re: #1004 redstateredneck
Good luck with that.
/mother of two daughers
;-)
Father of 2 girls here. Both in college. My prescription for staying calm is to have my wife filter all information about my daughters that would upset me. Works pretty good.
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VegasRick Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:47:41am |
Billy Ayers on Good Grief America right now.
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:47:54am |
re: #737 mama winger
Oh my G-D. A nightmare. What a SOB bastard.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:47:58am |
re: #1013 Ward Cleaver
Yeah, a pretty stupid business model. But running a successful business requires constant vigilance; no evidence of that in the article.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:48:03am |
re: #999 mama winger
Hahaha - you will need to provide the Lime Green Jello for next week's meeting tho. :)
With pears?
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:48:05am |
re: #1015 Perplexed
Ford, how did you behave when you were a teen? Trends follow in families.
I was actually a pretty good kid. My wife on the other hand... Although her mother was pretty much a non-entity in her life so I am sure that played a big role. That will not be a problem for our daughter.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:48:10am |
re: #998 Iron Fist
Hey, man! Still among the livin'. Waiting for the other shoe to drop. I still can' tbelieve we elected that worthless motherfucker President, but it appears that we did. And not in the same way Al Franken is being "elected", either.
Some days you just want to slap the electorate.
Working on it. Go to my blog and hit the top link. I won't link it directly here.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:48:13am |
re: #1028 vxbush
I wish my basketball-raised husband would analyze Obama's playing style. He can decipher a lot about people based on how they play.
I decipher a lot about people based on their actions, also!
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:48:46am |
re: #1026 WriterMom
You did good. Taking responsibility is tough, but the right thing to do.
He did some really stupid stuff that he knows I never approved of either. He found a good woman and his children, by the first are better for it.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:48:56am |
re: #1031 3 wood
Mine did the same thing in a White Hen cause they were out of ice cream drum sticks. She could not get enough of them with our 3rd child.
Believe it or not, I had no cravings with my children. None. I almost did, but nothing that I couldn't handle. Very odd, considering my daily craving for chocolate now.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:49:06am |
re: #1016 HoosierHoops
Basketball nut? LOL
He is pretty good and plays the wing..nice shot..Not much of a lane man but he is skinny so understandable he doesn't want to bang under the boards.
In other words he stays outside of the fray and let's other people do the bloody work? Hmm. I sense a trend.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:49:13am |
re: #1032 Nevergiveup
Father of 2 girls here. Both in college. My prescription for staying calm is to have my wife filter all information about my daughters that would upset me. Works pretty good.
Ah, but you're missing all the 'stuff'!
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father_of_10 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:49:39am |
re: #1032 Nevergiveup
Father of 2 girls here. Both in college. My prescription for staying calm is to have my wife filter all information about my daughters that would upset me. Works pretty good.
Y'all have NO IDEA. I have 6 daughters. Ages 24, 18, 13, 6, 6, and 4. I'm thinking about starting to drink. A man needs a hobby.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:50:07am |
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:50:09am |
re: #1028 vxbush
I wish my basketball-raised husband would analyze Obama's playing style. He can decipher a lot about people based on how they play.
I'll bet Obama throws a lot of elbows.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:50:19am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:50:25am |
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:50:39am |
re: #1045 father_of_10
Y'all have NO IDEA. I have 6 daughters. Ages 24, 18, 13, 6, 6, and 4. I'm thinking about starting to drink. A man needs a hobby.
Might as well start getting interested in wedding planning as a hobby.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:50:41am |
re: #1032 Nevergiveup
Father of 2 girls here. Both in college. My prescription for staying calm is to have my wife filter all information about my daughters that would upset me. Works pretty good.
That's pretty much the way the mr and I do it! He can't handle the drama.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:50:53am |
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:51:15am |
re: #1028 vxbush
I wish my basketball-raised husband would analyze Obama's playing style. He can decipher a lot about people based on how they play.
I've read alot about his play on ESPN.. He is not a passer or an assist guy..likes to shoot too much..
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:51:44am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:51:48am |
re: #1045 father_of_10
Y'all have NO IDEA. I have 6 daughters. Ages 24, 18, 13, 6, 6, and 4. I'm thinking about starting to drink. A man needs a hobby.
Shit I already drink. And I always make it a habit to meet my daughters "boyfriends" in Uniform.
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VegasRick Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:51:56am |
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:52:15am |
re: #1045 father_of_10
Y'all have NO IDEA. I have 6 daughters. Ages 24, 18, 13, 6, 6, and 4. I'm thinking about starting to drink. A man needs a hobby.
It sounds to me like you need to stop drinking. :-)
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:52:16am |
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:52:20am |
re: #1050 Perplexed
Might as well start getting interested in wedding planning as a hobby.
That, and preparing to rob jewelry stores to fund the weddings.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:52:24am |
re: #1053 HoosierHoops
I've read alot about his play on ESPN.. He is not a passer or an assist guy..likes to shoot too much..
Ball hog.
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father_of_10 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:52:44am |
re: #1050 Perplexed
Might as well start getting interested in wedding planning as a hobby.
Only one out of 10 married. My oldest is married to the Corps, but that doesn't really count. As far as weddings, I think I'll give the girl a wad of cash and tell her to elope.
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fish Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:52:54am |
re: #1045 father_of_10
Y'all have NO IDEA. I have 6 daughters. Ages 24, 18, 13, 6, 6, and 4. I'm thinking about starting to drink. A man needs a hobby.
That many kids, Sounds like you already HAVE a hobby what you need is a different one.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:53:18am |
re: #1033 VegasRick
Billy Ayers on Good Grief America right now.
This guy is just getting more mainstream. Pisses me off.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:53:19am |
re: #1057 VegasRick
He is a scumbag. And Ayers is even worse.
Sitting in the same room with the likes of him - UGH
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:53:28am |
re: #1053 HoosierHoops
I've read alot about his play on ESPN.. He is not a passer or an assist guy..likes to shoot too much..
There's a shocker./
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:54:31am |
re: #1067 Ford_Prefect
All for the glory of O. Not a team player.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:54:33am |
re: #1010 father_of_10
Exactly. When I heard he was considering Hillary, my first reaction was, "But she has no diplomatic experience" ...and then I thought, hey, maybe that's an advantage? She hasn't been drunk the State Department water...
The other name on offer was John Kerry, a dull witted walking toothache of a man. No thanks. Hillary is smart and less of a leftist than Obama. That's good for something.
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jcm Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:54:34am |
Meanwhile in Seattle Nudity is allowed in city parks, but in spite of state laws legally carried firearms are not.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:55:13am |
re: #1062 father_of_10
Only one out of 10 married. My oldest is married to the Corps, but that doesn't really count. As far as weddings, I think I'll give the girl a wad of cash and tell her to elope.
When my sister was planning her wedding, during a moment of frustration she said that they should just elope. My father practically jumped out of his chair to pull out his wallet.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:55:31am |
re: #1027 Spare O'Lake
I hear you. I suppose it's amazing that the charge in this case was ever laid in the first place, or that the case ever got to Court.
Maybe the machine has a few squeaky cogs.
Hmm...Looking on the bright side, I wonder if there's enough room under the bus for the entire Chicago machine - we know BHO will try to dump them if it suits him.
My guess is the cop did not know who this was.
Probably got an education the next day when the Machine started making phone calls around City Hall.
We are in for a very bumpy 4 years.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:56:16am |
re: #1069 Kenneth
Exactly. When I heard he was considering Hillary, my first reaction was, "But she has no diplomatic experience" ...and then I thought, hey, maybe that's an advantage? She hasn't been drunk the State Department water...
The other name on offer was John Kerry, a dull witted walking toothache of a man. No thanks. Hillary is smart and less of a leftist than Obama. That's good for something.
He's trying to defang Hillary. With her out of the senate she loses a whole lot of power. Harder for her to get reelected once she walks away from the job.
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The Hoopster Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:56:18am |
re: #1067 Ford_Prefect
There's a shocker./
Do you think the secret service would shoot you if you made a hard pick on him and knocked em on his ass?
Last game I'd probably get to play with him...But lawdy the stories you could tell the grand kids.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:56:20am |
re: #1070 jcm
Meanwhile in Seattle Nudity is allowed in city parks, but in spite of state laws legally carried firearms are not.
yeah, well how could you carry a concealed weapon if you are nude anyway?
///Geesh, you gun-nuts are sooo stupid!
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jcm Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:56:28am |
re: #1073 3 wood
My guess is the cop did not know who this was.
Probably got an education the next day when the Machine started making phone calls around City Hall.
We are in for a very bumpy 4 years.
Look on the bright side...
The bumps are free...
/
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jcm Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:57:17am |
re: #1076 Kenneth
yeah, well how could you carry a concealed weapon if you are nude anyway?
///Geesh, you gun-nuts are sooo stupid!
ROFLMAO!... you owe me a keyboard, this one is covered in coffee...
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:57:21am |
Brother, Tomcat is slow on this machine I'm working on.
/geek frustration
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:57:36am |
re: #1074 Perplexed
Oh yes. She's being kicked upstairs. If she screws up, and eventually every Sec of State takes the fall, her chances of running for Pres are over.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:57:51am |
re: #1070 jcm
Meanwhile in Seattle Nudity is allowed in city parks, but in spite of state laws legally carried firearms are not.
From the link:
But Thursday night, the city's parks board refused to ban non-offensive public nudity despite some complaints from the public.
I think the level of offense depends on the individual body.
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fish Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:58:37am |
re: #1033 VegasRick
Billy Ayers on Good Grief America right now.
Would someone please explain to me the difference between serving on a board with this POS and going over to his house, And say Serving on a board and visting Osama Bin Laden's house? Timothy McVeigh? Terry Nichols?
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:58:52am |
re: #1075 HoosierHoops
Do you think the secret service would shoot you if you made a hard pick on him and knocked em on his ass?
Last game I'd probably get to play with him...But lawdy the stories you could tell the grand kids.
Racist!
/
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:58:54am |
re: #1070 jcm
Meanwhile in Seattle Nudity is allowed in city parks, but in spite of state laws legally carried firearms are not.
Where would you conceal the firearm?
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 7:59:43am |
re: #1085 fish
Would someone please explain to me the difference between serving on a board with this POS and going over to his house, And say Serving on a board and visting Osama Bin Laden's house? Timothy McVeigh? Terry Nichols?
Double standards. We're liberals and know what is best for you and yours. VS Take personal responsibility for your actions and character counts.
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jcm Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:00:03am |
re: #1085 fish
Would someone please explain to me the difference between serving on a board with this POS and going over to his house, And say Serving on a board and visting Osama Bin Laden's house? Timothy McVeigh? Terry Nichols?
The One will not be questioned.
That's the difference.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:00:09am |
re: #999 mama winger
Hahaha - you will need to provide the Lime Green Jello for next week's meeting tho. :)
Lime Green Jello, okay - hope I don't screw it up!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:00:53am |
re: #1082 Ford_Prefect
I think the level of offense depends on the individual body.
Usually the people who want to get nekkid in public aren't the ones whom anyone one wants to see nekkid in public.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:00:54am |
re: #1085 fish
People have either forgotten or have existences that are so self-centered that they don't care.
Sorry to be a buzzkill.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:01:13am |
re: #1085 fish
Would someone please explain to me the difference between serving on a board with this POS and going over to his house, And say Serving on a board and visting Osama Bin Laden's house? Timothy McVeigh? Terry Nichols?
But he is a professor, so he must be OK.
/
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:02:33am |
Whoa, forgot that soaking wet leaves on concrete have a disturbingly familar feel of ICE. LOL!
Speaking of joyous news(?):
FDIC says plan could help 1.5 million keep homes
WASHINGTON - The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. says a new plan could help 1.5 million American households avoid foreclosure.The agency released details Friday of a revised plan to have the government spend $24.4 billion to guarantee 2.2 million modified loans through the end of next year.
The FDIC says that the government's backing will make the lending industry more willing to modify loans because taxpayers will absorb half of the losses if the borrower defaults again.
Even if a third of those borrowers default again, 1.5 million homes will still be saved.
[emphasis added, realwest]
[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]
So let me see if I have this right - this is a ONE YEAR PLAN and it will make lenders willing to modify the loans because if a third or more of the defaulted borrowers default again, we'll the Government will bail 'em out?!
Say hey Congress, how's about tying that FDIC plan to an abolition of the CRA, hmmm? Cause we all know if you don't, at the end of next year the FDIC will come up with another, bigger and more expensive plan - for a year. And so forth and so on.
Do we DELIBERATELY send the least bright and worst to Washington to figure these things out or what?
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:03:10am |
re: #932 mama winger
Oh my dear - I can't imagine that kind of grief. {GGMac}
Thanks, mama. I believe you are able to understand what I mean when I say that each of those wee souls will be there on my Easter Day, and for that I rejoice.
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joncelli Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:03:12am |
re: #871 MandyManners
Boys are insanely innovative when it comes to sex. Chores, not so much.
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Tigger2005 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:03:46am |
Was just checking out the "Anti-Museum" post. Y'know, of all the insane claims made by the creationists, I think the "all of society's current problems can be traced to the theory of evolution" is the craziest and most bizarre. It's so blatantly false, and contradicts the creationists' own belief that evil came into the world shortly after the Creation. The Bible covers all sorts of human sins and evils, and creationists are fond of saying "we haven't changed since then." Yet at the same time they will argue that if it just wasn't for that bad old evolution nonsense, things like the Nazis and Columbine wouldn't happen.
If you pushed them on this, they'd probably say something like, "Well, we just mean that people were a lot more moral before evolution came along." As if before then everyone lived like the Amish in "Witness." Have these people never cracked open a history book other than the Bible?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:03:55am |
Time for real work. See y'all later.
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jcm Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:05:07am |
re: #1101 Tigger2005
I soliciting funds for a "Turtles All the Way Down" museum!
Care to donate?
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VegasRick Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:06:18am |
re: #1104 jcm
I soliciting funds for a "Turtles All the Way Down" museum!
Care to donate?
I'll shell out some cash for that!
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:06:51am |
re: #1101 Tigger2005
Have these people never cracked open a history book other than the Bible?
Only the ones that don't challenge their beliefs.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:07:02am |
An optimists view...
The choice for Obama lies on the road to Jerusalem
For their part, the Palestinians remain divided in spite of the best efforts of Egyptian mediation. Hamas has so far refused to offer the recognition of Israel demanded by the international community. In the absence of a committed interlocutor on the Israeli side, it is hard to see what would prompt Fatah and Hamas to settle their differences.
So why should Mr Obama risk his reputation in such a cause? The answer comes in several parts.
The early years of his presidency will be his best, and quite possibly the last, chance to broker a two-state solution. Facts on the ground – demography, the West Bank barrier, Israeli settlements across swaths of the West Bank, Palestinian radicalism in Gaza – are steadily undermining the bargain that would give Israel security and the Palestinians a state.
For all the formidable obstacles to an agreement, Mr Obama’s heritage and the nature of his victory has bestowed as much authority among Israelis, Palestinians and in the wider Arab world as any US president can ever expect. This precious political capital will diminish over time.
A serious and even-handed effort to promote peace between Israel and the Palestinians would disarm the most serious charge against US policy in the region: that everything it does is rooted in double standards.
A deal would not settle all the problems and conflicts. Nor, of itself, would it repair the relationship between the west and much of the Islamic world. Al-Qaeda and its affiliates would find plenty of other reasons to attack America. Yet the creation of a Palestinian state would change profoundly the dynamics of the Middle East. It would make possible much that now seems beyond all reasonable reach.
Brokering such an accord would be tough and thankless. Mr Obama might well fail in the attempt. But there lies the existential choice for Mr Bush’s successor. Does he want to patch things up? Or does he want to redraw the strategic map of the Middle East and thereby set a new direction for America’s role in the world? That, in the final analysis, is what will mark out the difference between a competent and a transformational presidency.
...meets pessimistic reality. Hamas will not renounce terrorism or accept Israel's right to exist. Fatah and Hamas will not co-operate. Israelis will not elect a government committed to the failed illusion of "land for peace", A two state solution will not satisfy the radical Islamists. Obama will fail to win a negotiated peace between Israel and the various factions of the Muslim world.
And meanwhile, Iran will continue to develop nuclear weapons unless & until they are forcefully confronted & stopped.
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:07:26am |
re: #934 DistantThunder
I had 11 - never knew of anyone else in the double digits. But I do have 7 wonderful children - who do drive me a little crazy.
A kindred spirit you are. And like you, I've also had the joy of raising 5 - and the added joy of 8 grands, and 4 g-grands.
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:08:15am |
re: #995 UFO TOFU
This is funny; a lesson in economics (okay, mismanagement probably plays a larger role, but still...): Nonprofit eatery can't bring home bacon
The phrase "well-meaning but misguided" comes to mind.
In Chicago, a similar experiment was tried: Some well-meaning folks tried to give "homeless" people a job by printing a shitty newspaper (which the "homeless" had to pay for), and having the "homeless" resell it for a dollar. So instead of being harassed by smelly bums begging for money when you walked downtown, you'd be harassed by smelly bums trying to sell you that shitty paper. (And if you stop to think about it, it's still begging: Why else would anyone pay a dollar for a shitty rag, when far superior newspapers cost 50 cents?)
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:08:49am |
re: #1101 Tigger2005
I think that the problem with evolution and Christians is that evolution drops humans to the level of animals and that we're no better or worse for that drop. This denies the divinity of creation.
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:08:51am |
This is cool: India's lunar probe landed on the moon successfully. Congrats. That's a big step.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:09:02am |
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:09:27am |
re: #1096 Iron Fist
They want us to accept him. After all, it is a good thing to bomb the cops and the Pentagon if you are bombing them for the
rightLeft reason.
accept him. hmmm. NOPE. what a tool. I am so frustrated at the misinformation that the MFM is spreading. They have lost all credibility. I won't even watch local news here anymore because they are just MSNBC lite.
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:09:52am |
re: #1101 Tigger2005
Was just checking out the "Anti-Museum" post. Y'know, of all the insane claims made by the creationists, I think the "all of society's current problems can be traced to the theory of evolution" is the craziest and most bizarre. It's so blatantly false, and contradicts the creationists' own belief that evil came into the world shortly after the Creation.
I hadn't heard that one. You're right, it's as bizaare as Biden's gaffe that it's because of Bush that Hezbollah is in Lebanon.
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:11:30am |
re: #1107 Kenneth
A realists' view is something quite different. A realist would point out that the Palestinians have never waivered from their one-state approach. Destroy Israel over the long term, and even in the short term. The terrorists of Hamas are dedicated to Israel's destruction just as surely that the Fatah thugs are; except the Fatah thugs have been waylaid by the corruption and money thrown the PA's way to "paper over" the differences. Hamas won the popularity contest in part because Fatah was more corrupt and Hamas claimed they'd clean things up.
Hamas has cleaned things up by destroying everything in sight, especially the Palestinian economy in Gaza. They have no one's fault but their own for that situation after turning an opportunity to develop an economy into a terrorists' safe haven and wet dream.
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VegasRick Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:11:35am |
We need a new thread, I'm hoping for an ID/EVO theme.
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freedombilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:11:37am |
I saw the interview live this morning and still every time I see a clip of Ayers from this morning I throw up.
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:11:43am |
re: #1111 David Simon
GUILT.
LOL. You seriously are inhabitting a part of my brain, mister.
HAHAHHAAHHA
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:11:51am |
Okay, work calls. Later, lizards. I'll try to lurk for a bit.
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firedupengineer Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:12:08am |
"Facts" to the MSM and the far left are meaningless. What is important is meeting agenda objectives (such as electing The One). If it means creating, distorting, or ignoring 'facts' to meet those objectives then so be it.
Hmmm...actually, that 'seems' to be their primary method used toward achieving agenda objectives...
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:12:38am |
re: #1117 Yashmak
I hadn't heard that one. You're right, it's as bizaare as Biden's gaffe that it's because of Bush that Hezbollah is in Lebanon.
Oh it was worse than that. He said that France and the US kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:12:41am |
re: #1116 bellamags
Bill Ayers is NOTHING without the protest. If we lived somehow happily under socialism, he'd be a staunch capitalist.
I'm convinced.
He just has that loser feel about him. He's the trenchcoat mafia with slightly more intelligence and much less authentic conviction.
What a piece of fecal matter.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:13:58am |
re: #1070 jcm Hey JCM - I understand your focus on the gun aspect, but you mighta slid on by a very wittily written article:
Nude events will therefore likely continue in the future, although perhaps under tighter scrutiny.
The parks board decided that to limit nudists would be to single them out. If nudists follow the rules, they can continue to use the parks.
Naked bike rides are a Seattle tradition. In Seattle it's illegal to flash someone, but perfectly legal to run around nude and police officers take action only if a nudist is lewd or obscene.
"The bare facts of the law are that if you knowingly show yourself naked with the intent to alarm and offend people that's illegal, said Sergeant Sean Whitcom, of the Seattle Police Department. "Just being nude is not against the law."
The city issues permits for a variety of naked events.
"We've issued permits for picnics, for indoor pool rentals and for bike rides," spokesperson Joelle Ligon said.
It's a touchy topic. The police chief even wrote a letter explaining to citizens that his officers can intervene only if a nudist engages in conduct that's likely to cause reasonable affront or alarm.
That line was apparently crossed in July when motorists got an eyeful of nude cyclists hanging out at Dexter and Mercer. And Seattle Center visitors saw others skinny dipping in the Seattle Center fountain.
A number of organized, naked bike rides have prompted the parks department to crack down on nudity.
One family holding a birthday party for a 9-year-old says the boys were suddenly surrounded by middle-aged men wearing nothing but their birthday suits.
The ban would only apply to nudity in parks and beaches. People could still book public pools after hours for nude swims, and naked bike rides would be allowed as long as people keep moving and don't stop or hold picnics in the parks.
The parks board agreed to closely monitor the permitting process and said in the future it may consider establishing a clothing-optional beach.
[emphasis added, realwest]
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:14:25am |
re: #1127 Bumr50
I disagree. I think if we were socialist, he'd push for communism. He's a leftist all the way down.
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:14:27am |
re: #1122 WriterMom
GUILT.
LOL. You seriously are inhabitting a part of my brain, mister.
HAHAHHAAHHA
One could be forgiven for thinking that we're each other's sock puppets. I'm waiting for the day that I start to write a comment, and you end up finishing it.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:14:31am |
re: #1127 Bumr50
His biggest nightmare would be if everyone agreed with him.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:14:32am |
re: #1096 Iron Fist
Iron Fist - this is what I have decided on. This is the rifle my dad used in the Marines and he said he could teach me easily to shoot accurately with this.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:15:07am |
re: #1073 3 wood
My guess is the cop did not know who this was.
Probably got an education the next day when the Machine started making phone calls around City Hall.
We are in for a very bumpy 4 years.
Idea for Movie Script:
POTUS gets heat from Congress about his past ties to the Chicago machine.
POTUS decides to throw the entire machine under the bus.
The machine decides to knock him off.
The secret service and the machine fight it out all over DC with old cars and machine guns. The machine gets wiped out.
POTUS ages noticeably throughout the film but survives with only a non-life-threatening wound to his buttocks.
In closing scene POTUS is lying bare-assed on a gurney hollering in pain while an elderly GOP doctor indelicately digs in to find the bullet.
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:15:44am |
re: #1130 David Simon
Would you like to be my honourary sibling? You can come to all my family events and help me terrorize my leftist family...I can't wait for the next one...I'll bring my PALIN 2012 t-shirt.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:16:08am |
re: #1118 lawhawk
Yeah, but you just wait till the Palis get a load of Obama's ingenious "hopey-change" talk. That'll straighten them out. No problemo, baby.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:16:16am |
re: #1097 realwest
It's like that woman who after the Obam rally said, I never have to worry about paying my mortgage again...
People now will feel that they can get away with anything... Still spend more than their means...
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fish Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:16:17am |
re: #1101 Tigger2005
Was just checking out the "Anti-Museum" post. Y'know, of all the insane claims made by the creationists, I think the "all of society's current problems can be traced to the theory of evolution" is the craziest and most bizarre. It's so blatantly false, and contradicts the creationists' own belief that evil came into the world shortly after the Creation. The Bible covers all sorts of human sins and evils, and creationists are fond of saying "we haven't changed since then." Yet at the same time they will argue that if it just wasn't for that bad old evolution nonsense, things like the Nazis and Columbine wouldn't happen.
If you pushed them on this, they'd probably say something like, "Well, we just mean that people were a lot more moral before evolution came along." As if before then everyone lived like the Amish in "Witness." Have these people never cracked open a history book other than the Bible?
Actually even the Bible has a fairly large chunck of human misery and people doing bad things to each other.
I would like to go on record saying that I believe these so called "creationists" are actually trying to minimize religion and faith by making it seem absurd and foolish. So that when someone tries to have a reasonable discussion, trying to debate the parts of the history of the world that is not fully explained by either Scientific or Biblical means; that person can be called a "Creationist Wacko" and discounted.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:17:09am |
re: #1127 Bumr50
Bill Ayers is NOTHING without the protest. If we lived somehow happily under socialism, he'd be a staunch capitalist.
I'm convinced.
He just has that loser feel about him. He's the trenchcoat mafia with slightly more intelligence and much less authentic conviction.
What a piece of fecal matter.
You are right. He is one of those "against the grain" types. He is educated way beyond his intelligence.
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:17:50am |
One family holding a birthday party for a 9-year-old says the boys were suddenly surrounded by middle-aged men wearing nothing but their birthday suits.
They came dressed for the occasion!
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:18:52am |
re: #1134 WriterMom
Would you like to be my honourary sibling? You can come to all my family events and help me terrorize my leftist family...I can't wait for the next one...I'll bring my PALIN 2012 t-shirt.
What fun we could have. I'm literally the only conservative in my extended family. The rest of my family ranges from "reasonable liberal" to "stark-raving moonbat" (with the overwhelming majority being the latter).
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:19:04am |
re: #1140 buzzsawmonkey
The best solution for homelessness is homes, but there is a vested interest on the part of the homeless industry to keep people in temporary situations.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:19:10am |
re: #1129 lawhawk
I disagree. I think if we were socialist, he'd push for communism. He's a leftist all the way down.
And he is smart because he's running his revolution through the education system, thus poisoning the minds of the youth...
Went on vacation last week with the gf's brother and sister. On election day we did talk about it and it was astounding what they though was true about Palin and McCain and what they would do... The borther voted absentee in WI for Obama, her sister did not vote...
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:19:36am |
re: #1140 buzzsawmonkey
some of your posts push my line of thinking into the scary category. : )
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:19:40am |
The City of Golden decided not to allow a menorah to be included in a city sponsored "winter holiday" display.
(Headline) Golden council OKs Santa but not a menorah (Denver Post, Fri. 11-14-2008 online)
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
... so, here is my opinion sent to the city this morning.
"I have no religious dog in this fight, since I do not support any organized religion or spiritual/supernatural assembly of any sort.
But this decision on the part of Golden's City Council is extremely hypocritical. If the City is going to decorate ANY foliage, using taxpayers money, then they are supporting the RELIGIOUS aspect of this holiday season.
Decorated foliage (oak trees, fir tress, logs, bushes, boughs) was traditional with the pagan Germanic tribes. In the 16th century, these practices were transferred and adopted by Christians, to celebrate the birth of Christ. Even something seemingly non-religious as a stocking filled with gift items stem directly from these Germanic traditions and borrowed by believers to represent the gift giving of the Magi's.
These are undisputable facts. The City Council can go down the list of items that the Supreme Court as deemed "secular," but no court of law can change history. Not unless the City of Golden has purchased some "memory holes," as described in the book "1984," to erased history.
If the City Council decorates any tree, bush, bough, log with lights, a ham, a goat, a stocking, stars, apples, nuts, dates, paper flowers, pretzels, cheese, candles, sugar ornaments, candy canes, tin star and places these item in a public place or on public property, than they are continuing a Christmas tradition that is over 400 years old.
So, my suggestion would be to request that the City of Golden remove any city displays placed in or around Lions Park, South Golden Road, Washington Ave, or any other place that City employees have erected anything that falls under the category of Christmas or winter holiday decoration.
Or, a more honest, truthful and intelligent approach would be to allow individuals or groups to place holiday symbols on designated public property, at no cost to the city. And for the hand wringing and teeth gnashing city lawyers, hey, consider it job security. You'll have something new to jam up the courts with."
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:20:35am |
re: #1142 WriterMom
The best solution for homelessness is homes, but there is a vested interest on the part of the homeless industry to keep people in temporary situations.
Ever notice how the number of homeless drops whenever the democrats are in office and how the number skyrockets the day conservatives take office?
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:20:51am |
re: #1143 tfc3rid
And he is smart because he's running his revolution through the education system, thus poisoning the minds of the youth...
Went on vacation last week with the gf's brother and sister. On election day we did talk about it and it was astounding what they though was true about Palin and McCain and what they would do... The borther voted absentee in WI for Obama, her sister did not vote...
The liberals have defeated conservatism in that area. We need to fight back.
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:20:52am |
re: #1141 David Simon
Geez-I think we really might be related. Mine goes from "unhinged lunatic humourless left" to "totally uninformed but knee-jerk liberal".
We should probably determine if our parents had any test-tube babies...
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:21:42am |
re: #952 outsidephilly
I'm so sorry for you . . .
I appreciate your thoughtfulness, and thank you. As I said a bit ago to mama winger, joy will come on my Easter Day when I will hold them all in my arms.
As you can suppose, the 5 children who survived are dearly cherished.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:21:56am |
re: #1147 bellamags
The liberals have defeated conservatism in that area. We need to fight back.
It might be too late in that respect... Conservatism starts at home now...
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:22:18am |
re: #1135 Kenneth
Yeah, but you just wait till the Palis get a load of Obama's ingenious "hopey-change" talk. That'll straighten them out. No problemo, baby.
/Bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Antique even. Great price. Good condition.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:22:39am |
Karma: Canadian Taliban Supporter Kidnapped, Presumably by Taliban
Canadian Beverly Giesbrecht, who goes by the name Khadija Abdul Qahaar and who runs the Jihad Unspun website, has been kidnapped in Pakistan. She was in Pakistan making a documentary sympathetic to the Taliban.
In each and every case of a kidnapping I've publicly supported the hostage, regardless of political stances. Hostage taking is barbaric, inhumane, and a sign that the enemies we fight are, in fact, very different than us.
Perhaps I'm speaking out of anger, but in this case I offer no such support. Jihad Unspun is a cesspool of propaganda on behalf of the Taliban, of al Qaeda, and of other "resistance" movements which are at open war with the United States of America, Canada --Giesbrecht's country --, and Western civilization. She is an enemy living in our midst and abusing our tolerance for free speech.
She is a modern Goebbels. As in the case of all of our enemies, I wish her only ill will. She's a mother, you might object. She does charity work, you might object. Goebbels was a decent father, I hear. He also threw fabulous parties. That didn't make him any less our enemy.
It couldn't have happened to a nasty person. Karma is a bitch, bitch!
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:22:52am |
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:23:00am |
Ouch!
[Link: zod2008.com...]
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:23:31am |
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:24:02am |
re: #1140 buzzsawmonkey
I do not believe the people who produced what in New York was called "Street News"--the Chicago paper had a similar, but slightly different, name--were "trying to give homeless people a job."
Rather, they were trying to keep the "homeless issue" in people's faces, while preserving the group identity of "the homeless" (which was the power base of "homeless advocates") under the guise of giving them a job.
I've taken them at their word, but you make a fair point: We really don't know the true motivation of the people behind the bad idea. I wouldn't say you're being cynical.
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unclassifiable Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:24:24am |
re: #1023 christheprofessor
Recovering from the election.
Sorry for the tardy response. A work related "thing" trashed my connection.
Apparently it ain't all about the DNA .
I seem to remember a while back that Dolly the sheep was showing signs that cloning retained some of the "old cell" characteristics even though her genes where identical to her progenitor (amazing the way things like this torture the language).
Anyway the idea was that there was now components generally labeled "genetic expression". From the looks of things in the downstairs thread the genetic scientist are just getting a handle of the mechanics of that phenomenon.
It sort of reminds me of what happened to physics when they started finding all sorts of exotic particles coming out of the accelerators.
Otherwise the human/lima bean genetic slice is still holding in it's own unique way :)
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:24:42am |
re: #1119 VegasRick
We need a new thread, I'm hoping for an ID/EVO theme.
/
Let's throw in abortion and Terry Schiavo for good measure.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:24:53am |
re: #1150 tfc3rid
And so should school, if at all possible.
Maybe combined home-schools for working parents?
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:25:01am |
re: #1113 lawhawk
This is cool: India's lunar probe landed on the moon successfully. Congrats. That's a big step.
The lunar probe radioed back to mission control, was put on hold for 10 minutes, and was finally answered by someone with a heavy accent identifying herself as Cathy.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:25:03am |
re: #1156 David Simon
I've taken them at their word, but you make a fair point: We really don't know the true motivation of the people behind the bad idea. I wouldn't say you're being cynical.
I would think they want to feel good about themselves without actually doing something good.
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:25:31am |
re: #1158 redstateredneck
Don't forget Pope Pius and Mel Gibson!
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:25:44am |
re: #1150 tfc3rid
It might be too late in that respect... Conservatism starts at home now...
There are a lot of smart kids that don't stand a chance because their parents simply don't care. They need guidance early, and for some, school is the only place they get it. That is what the liberals count on - no parenting. I agree conservatism starts at home, but we need to figure a way to even the playing field when it comes to the public school system.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:25:59am |
re: #1132 bellamags
Huh. Did all my basic training and Advanced Infantry Training with an M-14 - and I LOVED that rifle when used for aimed fire. Full auto, however, NO ONE in my company could hit a target to save their lives - though I was the worst.
Safest place to be when Realwest fired his M-14 on full auto? Right in front of the target! LOL!
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:26:37am |
re: #975 HoosierHoops
Why? they lost their shame years ago when they elected a pro wrestler for Governor..
/how's it going Ward?
Hey they elected a dude named Ellison who refused to swear on the Bible.
The ironc thing was that the fool swore on Thomas Jefferson's Koran (Jefferson got himself when our nation to better understand Islam when our nation had to fight the Barbary Pirates).
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Ben Hur Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:27:23am |
I happen to believe that there is some merit in the dragons of lore being the last dinosaurs (or at least some big ass lizards).
That doesn't mean I think they were on Noah's Ark, but I've always found it interesting that "dragon" myths are found in different cultures all over the world.
Please don't stone me.
With stones...HAHAHAHAHA!
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VegasRick Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:27:28am |
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:28:18am |
re: #1152 Kenneth
Karma: Canadian Taliban Supporter Kidnapped, Presumably by Taliban
It couldn't have happened to a nasty person. Karma is a bitch, bitch!
As you sow, so shall you reap.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:28:59am |
re: #1136 tfc3rid
Hey there my friend! "Still spend more than their means" but only because they are so gosh darned
ENTITLED.Just sheer stupidity - on the part of the politicians and the regulatory idiots.
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:29:15am |
re: #1161 The Other Les
I would think they want to feel good about themselves without actually doing something good.
Maybe, but then why do anything? Isn't that the lure of Barack Obama and the promised expansion of government: You can feel good about yourself without having to lift a finger to do anything?
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:29:36am |
re: #1164 realwest
Huh. Did all my basic training and Advanced Infantry Training with an M-14 - and I LOVED that rifle when used for aimed fire. Full auto, however, NO ONE in my company could hit a target to save their lives - though I was the worst.
Safest place to be when Realwest fired his M-14 on full auto? Right in front of the target! LOL!
He said he could hit anything with that rifle. I have seen him shoot before and its kinda freaky. He is really good. I am good with a 9mm and a 22mag but I have never shot a rifle. He was a sharp shooter in the Marines so I will trust his judgment.
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:29:59am |
re: #1152 Kenneth
Karma: Canadian Taliban Supporter Kidnapped, Presumably by Taliban
It couldn't have happened to a nasty person. Karma is a bitch, bitch!
Love it.
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opnion Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:30:39am |
Good morning lizards.
The Chicago Tribune is reporting that in the MN. Senator race two heavy Democrat Counties, Henipin being one have reported over 25,000 ballaots with the office of president voted for, but no Senate vote.
When they finish this, it will probably be bad news for Norm Coleman.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:30:56am |
re: #1138 bellamags
"He[Ayers] is educated way beyond his intelligence."
And so terribly under-deprived.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:31:22am |
re: #1169 MrSilverDragon
As you sow, so shall you reap.
I bet if she is released she will refuse to leave or condemn her kidnappers and Liberals will say she is suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:31:45am |
re: #1166 Ben Hur
I happen to believe that there is some merit in the dragons of lore being the last dinosaurs (or at least some big ass lizards).
That doesn't mean I think they were on Noah's Ark, but I've always found it interesting that "dragon" myths are found in different cultures all over the world.
Please don't stone me.
With stones...HAHAHAHAHA!
Dude. I think the same thing! Camodo dragons are pretty close to dragons. The fire breathing thing could be a reference to the poison saliva they use to kill prey.
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opnion Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:31:56am |
re: #1165 shanec99
Hey they elected a dude named Ellison who refused to swear on the Bible.
The ironc thing was that the fool swore on Thomas Jefferson's Koran (Jefferson got himself when our nation to better understand Islam when our nation had to fight the Barbary Pirates).
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:32:45am |
re: #1174 opnion
Good morning lizards.
The Chicago Tribune is reporting that in the MN. Senator race two heavy Democrat Counties, Henipin being one have reported over 25,000 ballaots with the office of president voted for, but no Senate vote.
When they finish this, it will probably be bad news for Norm Coleman.
Odd, isn't it, how in all this recounting they have found no votes for Coleman?
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Tigger2005 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:32:46am |
re: #1112 Perplexed
I think that the problem with evolution and Christians is that evolution drops humans to the level of animals and that we're no better or worse for that drop. This denies the divinity of creation.
Evolution doesn't "drop" human beings to the level of anything. We're still what we evolved to be, human beings, with many similarities between ourselves and other creatures, but many profound differences as well.
Anyway, this is only a problem with SOME Christians. Plenty of Christians reconcile the issue by regarding evolution itself as the divine creative act, whether God simply started the ball rolling or intervened in subtle and undetectable ways to ensure our evolution. I've also heard the view that even if our evolution wasn't planned or guided (a sort of Deistic view in which God started the universe and then let it unfold according to its own laws), God nevertheless takes a special interest in (and perhaps bestows souls upon) those creatures that do evolve self-awareness and the ability to think about the universe, thus "separating" them from non-sentient creatures in this manner.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:32:47am |
re: #1175 realwest
"He[Ayers] is educated way beyond his intelligence."
And so terribly under-deprived.
HA.
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Ben Hur Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:32:59am |
Boxer Aide Arrested for Distributing Child Porn, Media Mostly Mum
A high-level adviser for Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Cali) was charged Wednesday with receiving and distributing child pornography.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:33:08am |
re: #1155 WriterMom
More about this story here:
B. C. woman reportedly abducted in Pakistan
Ms. Qahaar, formerly known as Beverly Giesbrecht, runs jihadunspun.com,an independent Web site that has been highly critical of U. S. foreign policy. Prior to the abduction, Ms. Qahaar said she was in Pakistan working on a documentary film and shoring up contacts for the Web site's news service.
Check her website, Jihad Unspun it's not merely "critical of U. S. foreign policy", it's outspokenly pro Al-Qaeda.
Reports of the abduction came just weeks after Ms. Qahaar posted an "urgent" message on her Web site about deteriorating security conditions in Pakistan...Ms. Qahaar said as "foreigners," the team "must leave the country," but lacked the funds to get out... Ms. Qahaar went on to ask readers to send financial contributions to the jihadunspun.com team either through PayPal or Western Union, saying she had already had numerous close calls as "kidnappers and thieves are running loose." "Allah knows that I really dislike having to ask but please know how hard we work for Allah," the statement reads.
Mark Federman, an expert in media studies at the University of Toronto, said he had not previously heard of jihadunspun.com. But looking at the circumstances of the reported abduction, "my skepticism detectors start flashing on this one," he said. While Mr. Federman acknowledged the threat of abduction was very real in the region Ms. Qahaar was travelling, he questioned the timing of her Web site posting.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:33:14am |
re: #1142 WriterMom
Absolutely correct. The "industry" of helping the homeless (I'm NOT talking about true charitable enterprises) helps those who "work" in it to avoid real jobs.
Sorta like the race-baiters and racism in the U.S.
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opnion Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:33:59am |
re: #1179 redstateredneck
Odd, isn't it, how in all this recounting they have found no votes for Coleman?
One of life's mysteries. I plan to check my car trunk today for ballots.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:34:34am |
re: #1174 opnion
Good morning lizards.
The Chicago Tribune is reporting that in the MN. Senator race two heavy Democrat Counties, Henipin being one have reported over 25,000 ballaots with the office of president voted for, but no Senate vote.
When they finish this, it will probably be bad news for Norm Coleman.
There's a really big cemetery in south Minneapolis...
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:34:52am |
re: #1186 opnion
Maybe that's what's been making that noise when my furnace kicks on.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:35:04am |
re: #1168 buzzsawmonkey
There are basically three subgroups to "the homeless":
1) The substratum of drunks, drug addicts, bums and petty criminals that have always populated America's Skid Rows;
2) The de-institutionalized mentally ill;
3) People or families who were living close to the borderline and hit a streak of bad luck (by far the smallest segment of the three).
There are also runaway teens, escaping abuse at home. Building more shelters does not solve any of the underlying causes of homelessness.
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:35:30am |
re: #1166 Ben Hur
That doesn't mean I think they were on Noah's Ark, but I've always found it interesting that "dragon" myths are found in different cultures all over the world.
It's not surprising to me that this particular myth is spread worldwide. Imagine several thousand years ago, coming across the fossil of some big toothy dinosaur. Not having any reference to base this skeletal figure, a story would form as to the origins of said creature, which over time being told from generation to generation, became myth. And I have to imagine this would've happened more than once across the planet.
Just my $.02. :)
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:35:45am |
re: #1183 Ben Hur
Boxer Aide Arrested for Distributing Child Porn, Media Mostly Mum
Funny they don't report that, but they report the lie that some McCain aide said that Governor Palin did not know that Africa was not a country.
The MSM is amusingly inept or just plain corrupt. Perhaps the MSM falls on a continuum between the two extremes I just mentioned.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:35:54am |
re: #1186 opnion
One of life's mysteries. I plan to check my car trunk today for ballots.
I'm pretty sure there are no ballots in the trunk of my car.
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:35:58am |
re: #959 redstateredneck
Ten! God bless you. My first baby was still born (cord accident). I gave myself a couple of months, and then got pregnant again. My healthy daughter was born the next year. Bad thing was, I felt like I was pregnant for two years!
Oh, the heartache for you - I have to believe a stillbirth would bring even more excruciating pain. I'm so happy that you have your daughter.
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opnion Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:37:03am |
re: #1165 shanec99
Hey they elected a dude named Ellison who refused to swear on the Bible.
The ironc thing was that the fool swore on Thomas Jefferson's Koran (Jefferson got himself when our nation to better understand Islam when our nation had to fight the Barbary Pirates).
Jefferson & Franklin visiting the Court of St. James asked the Ambassador of Tripoli why the attacked our ships, robbing, killing & imprisoning our sailors. his answer "Jihad"
That's why jefferson got a copy of the Koran. to understand the enemy.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:37:36am |
I gotta run.
Lastly, all things considered, I think HRC would be a GREAT Sec. of State, especially when compared to some other, lesser known, Obama associates.
I think that, believe it or not, would be good news.
BBL.
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DeafDog Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:38:09am |
Joke of the day
Micky Mouse is visiting his psychiatrist.
The Psychiatrist says, "I'm sorry, Mr. Mouse, that you think think your wife, Mini, is crazy."
Micky say, "You idiot. I didnt's say she was crazy! I said that she's f#ucking Goofy!"
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Tigger2005 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:38:22am |
re: #1194 opnion
Jefferson & Franklin visiting the Court of St. James asked the Ambassador of Tripoli why the attacked our ships, robbing, killing & imprisoning our sailors. his answer "Jihad"
That's why jefferson got a copy of the Koran. to understand the enemy.
Ah, the good old days, when our leaders were grounded in reality and common sense, and didn't spout shit like "Islam is a religion of peace."
And the Nazis were just a political party.
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opnion Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:38:35am |
re: #1187 The Other Les
There's a really big cemetery in south Minneapolis...
I think that they had dead Chicago Democrats go to MN & vote illegaly.
I think that it's an Acorn thing.
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DeafDog Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:39:10am |
re: #1195 Bumr50
And we know that she can handle herself if she gets caught in a firefight while visiting Bosnia.
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Ben Hur Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:39:22am |
The Foward is left-wing Jewish paper with a history of socialism and anti-Zionism.
This is their list of top Jewish leaders for this year.
I know some on the list personally and they have done very good very important work.
But look at who else is on it and how they are described:
Sarah Silverman
It would have been reasonable to assume that comedian Sarah Silverman had pushed the boundaries of Jewish humor as far as they could possibly go with a one-liner she delivered in her "Jesus is Magic" tour a couple of years back. "I was raped by a doctor," she says, her trademark shayna punim all wide-eyed innocence, "which is so bittersweet for a Jewish girl." This year, Silverman, 37, went further: Not only did she create a pro-Barack Obama monologue that gleefully skewered the polite discourse around the purported racism of some elderly Jewish voters, her video got into so many e-mail inboxes that comic Jackie Mason, a John McCain supporter, responded with an indignant monologue of his own. Silverman's election monologue may have been more popular than it was successful. The video was a promotion for "The Great Schlep," a Jewish organization's effort to get young Jews to fly to Florida and sweet-talk their grandparents into voting for Obama. Reportedly, only about 100 grandkids showed up. But Silverman is having a pretty good year: Her sitcom, "The Sarah Silverman Program," is in its second season on Comedy Central, and she won an Emmy for her anniversary present to her on-again, off-again boyfriend, comedian Jimmy Kimmel, a video in which she has a torrid affair with Matt Damon, starring herself and, well, Matt Damon. Bittersweet stuff.
Barney Frank
This year's financial meltdown catapulted Democrat Barney Frank, the chair of the House Financial Services Committee, to center stage. During tense days in late September, as the American credit markets ground to a halt, Frank played a major role in shaping the Wall Street bailout plan and getting it approved. The outspoken, and at times short-tempered, congressman from Massachusetts shuttled between meetings with the Treasury secretary, House Republicans and his own party members in an effort to deliver the deal. After the vote, Frank stood proudly with congressional leaders in front of TV cameras to announce victory. In his 27-year career in Congress, Frank, 68, has made history before. He was the first leading politician to come out as gay in 1987, and has since carried the flag for civil liberties and gay rights in Congress. Growing up in a New Jersey family with a strong Jewish identity, Frank frequently draws upon the idea of tikkun olam as a driving force behind his work on civil rights and assisting the needy.
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bulwrk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:40:46am |
re: #1191 shanec99
Its actually in the LA Times this morning.
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WriterMom Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:41:40am |
re: #1168 buzzsawmonkey
buzz, I should have put more information with my post. By homes, I don't mean just building 'affordable' housing. What I mean is permanent housing solutions including therapy or career training...definitely mentally ill people need therapy, and supportive housing solutions...it's not a solution to just throw people into a building and give them some food. I just am against the homeless 'industry'. I hate them. And I hate the band-aid activists even more...the armies of 'socks for the homeless' or 'blankies for the homeless' or sandwiches for the homeless people. I am in favour of a homeless solution that includes giving people the tools that can help them live the most productive life possible-and I am very supportive of initiatives that help people who TRULY can't help themselves (mentally disabled, infirm...etc.)-I'm happy to pay more than my share for those folks.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:41:50am |
re: #1194 opnion
Jefferson & Franklin visiting the Court of St. James asked the Ambassador of Tripoli why the attacked our ships, robbing, killing & imprisoning our sailors. his answer "Jihad"
That's why jefferson got a copy of the Koran. to understand the enemy.
Oh how I wish that our present leaders would take the time to learn about liberty and the role government must play in defending our citizens. Our founding fathers could give these miscreants who sit in the halls of power a lesson in the role of government.
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:42:04am |
re: #1175 realwest
"He[Ayers] is educated way beyond his intelligence."
And so terribly under-deprived.
He needs this shirt.
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Ben Hur Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:42:09am |
Robert Wexler
At a time when many Democrats in Congress backed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Rep. Robert Wexler took a risk. As co-chair of Barack Obama's Florida campaign, Wexler often reminded audiences that he was one of the first Jews to support Obama for president long before it was fashionable, and long before many of his older Jewish constituents in the Sunshine State warmed up to Obama. Such loyalty earned Wexler, 47, a prime spot speaking about Israel and the Middle East during the Democratic convention. As a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee since his election in 1997, Wexler will likely continue to have Obama's ear and be a sounding board on Jewish and Middle East matters in Congress. Known for a prosecutorial style, this lawyer will probably have his hand in a number of pressing domestic and foreign policy issues. Within the Foreign Affairs Committee, he is chairman of the Europe subcommittee and a member of the Middle East subcommittee. He also serves on the House Financial Services and Judiciary committees. Wexler voted to give the Bush administration authority to invade Iraq, but he has been a frequent administration critic and called for hearings on whether to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney.
Jon Stewart
Comedian Jon Stewart may or may not be "the citizens' surrogate" inside politics, as Tom Brokaw grandly called him, much less "the most trusted man in America," as The New York Times wrote last August. But he's certainly high on the list. "The Daily Show," Stewart's wildly popular mock-news cable television show, is said to be the main source of news for the under-30 set. No one else in television matches Stewart, 46, at exposing politicians' hypocrisy. There's no disputing Stewart's stature as the public face of a supposedly lost generation of American Jews: politically liberal, thoroughly American and proudly if ambivalently Jewish. No one on air is more casually, openly Jewish, and never more so than in this presidential year. In June, he skewered the candidates for pandering to the pro-Israel vote. (On John McCain visiting Israel with Senator Joseph Lieberman in tow: "You know, when you go to Israel you don't have to bring your own Jew — there's a wide variety of Jews there.") In October, he lampooned Congress for delaying the financial bailout plan to adjourn for Rosh Hashanah ("I mean, seriously, Utah, you're not coming in for Rosh Hashanah?"). But always with affection: Last fall he mentioned to Tony Blair that his wife was Catholic and he was Jewish. When Blair asked how it was working out, Stewart replied: "We're raising our children to be sad."
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:42:29am |
KHNLYour text to link...is reporting that Obama is not attending his grandmothers memorial service.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:42:46am |
re: #1187 The Other Les
There's a really big cemetery in south Minneapolis...
Yes, but it is primarily a military cemetery and they vote conservative.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:43:19am |
re: #1170 realwest
Hey there my friend! "Still spend more than their means" but only because they are so gosh darned
ENTITLED.Just sheer stupidity - on the part of the politicians and the regulatory idiots.
I guess they think it is all right since the government spends above their means...
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CharlieBravo Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:43:39am |
Look who is peeping out from under the bus: Ayers: Republicans Demonized Me (Fox News)
Stand back, make room... many more under there coming out soon.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:44:00am |
re: #1172 bellamags
Uh, no disprespect meant to him, but NOBODY'S a sharpshooter with an M-14 on full auto. Trust me on this. The M-14 rifle was a great rifle for semi-auto - aimed fire. On full auto it was too light to be able for the shooter to handle the recoil.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:44:31am |
re: #1201 bulwrk
Its actually in the LA Times this morning.
Yeah, but they are holding on to that video for dear life. God bless them for thier committment to preserving thier sources (please note my damp sarcasm). I sincerley hope the LA times goes bankrupt forcing its editorial staff to all go our and earn an honest living.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:44:59am |
re: #1207 Perplexed
Yes, but it is primarily a military cemetery and they vote conservative.
I was thinking of Lakewood cemetery. We have two DFL senators buried there already. I would expect them to dump Mondale there when he expires too.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:45:13am |
The Racial Grievance Industry rolls on:
Youth violence tied to racism, report says
The sharp rise of youth violence in ontario is linked to entrenched racism in the province, according to a long-awaited report that calls on the provincial government to collect race-based statistics and provide anti-racism training to police officers.
”We were taken aback by the extent to which racism is alive and well and wreaking its deeply harmful effects on Ontarians and on the very fabric of this province,” stated the report released this morning by Roy McMurtry and Alvin Curling.
The report on the roots of youth violence was commissioned by Premier Dalton McGuinty following the shooting death of 15-year-old Jordan Manners* at C.W. Jeffreys Collegiate Institute.
The sweeping report is critical of the education system, saying students do not see themselves in the curriculum. It calls for guidance counsellors to be trained in understanding issues affecting ”ethno-racial youth.”
Among its recommendations, the report calls for:
• the province to press the federal government to implement a handgun ban
• building community hubs in disadvantaged neighbourhoods.
• $200-million, estimated, to provide universal mental health services.
• establishment of a committee of anti racism and social inclusion.
*Jordan Manners was a young black male shot to death by his friend, another young black male, while joking around with an illegally owned handgun. I guess "racism" made them do it!
Manner's mother was on TV crying how her son was a good boy, never involved with gangs or guns. Under pressure from the public to "do something", police launched a series of raids of suspected gang members. What a surprise! Jordan Manner's sister was living in the apartment of a gang leader where several guns, quantities of drugs and large sums of cash were discovered.
I guess "racism" made them do it, too.
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fish Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:45:34am |
re: #1166 Ben Hur
I happen to believe that there is some merit in the dragons of lore being the last dinosaurs (or at least some big ass lizards).
That doesn't mean I think they were on Noah's Ark, but I've always found it interesting that "dragon" myths are found in different cultures all over the world.
Please don't stone me.
With stones...HAHAHAHAHA!
I happen to believe the dragon myths were created when people from the Middle Ages stumbled upon very large fossil bones and tried to explain what kind of anmal they were from.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:46:14am |
re: #1202 WriterMom
buzz, I should have put more information with my post. By homes, I don't mean just building 'affordable' housing. What I mean is permanent housing solutions including therapy or career training...definitely mentally ill people need therapy, and supportive housing solutions...it's not a solution to just throw people into a building and give them some food. I just am against the homeless 'industry'. I hate them. And I hate the band-aid activists even more...the armies of 'socks for the homeless' or 'blankies for the homeless' or sandwiches for the homeless people. I am in favour of a homeless solution that includes giving people the tools that can help them live the most productive life possible-and I am very supportive of initiatives that help people who TRULY can't help themselves (mentally disabled, infirm...etc.)-I'm happy to pay more than my share for those folks.
I agree. The whole 'support the homeless around Thanksgiving and Christmas' really makes me gag. What about the rest of the year? What to do to get them back on their feet so they live a real life?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:47:24am |
re: #1214 Kenneth
The Racial Grievance Industry rolls on:
Youth violence tied to racism, report says
*Jordan Manners was a young black male shot to death by his friend, another young black male, while joking around with an illegally owned handgun. I guess "racism" made them do it!
Manner's mother was on TV crying how her son was a good boy, never involved with gangs or guns. Under pressure from the public to "do something", police launched a series of raids of suspected gang members. What a surprise! Jordan Manner's sister was living in the apartment of a gang leader where several guns, quantities of drugs and large sums of cash were discovered.
I guess "racism" made them do it, too.
I thought things like racism, crime, drugs, & guns only existed in the eeevil U.S.A.?
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:49:51am |
re: #1206 Bumr50
KHNLYour text to link...is reporting that Obama is not attending his grandmothers memorial service.
The public, or the private one? The public one is first, followed by a private family one in a few months.
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Bumr50 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:50:21am |
re: #1217 Perplexed
Many of them don't want to lead a productive life. My girlfriend is a bookkeeper for the Salvation Army, and many of their "clients" (the term they use) have been coming since they were children. It's institutional.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:50:29am |
re: #1211 realwest
Uh, no disprespect meant to him, but NOBODY'S a sharpshooter with an M-14 on full auto. Trust me on this. The M-14 rifle was a great rifle for semi-auto - aimed fire. On full auto it was too light to be able for the shooter to handle the recoil.
I dont know anyone who could hit 24 pop up targets with 40 rounds varying from 50 to 300 yards if the rifle was on full auto. Good luck if you find one.
Hell with the CCoL and M-4 I was shooting to qual I hit 35 pop up targets (the targets popped up at random and remained up for 2 seconds). I missed expert by 1 shot.
By the way Sharp Shooter is the second lowest level you can qualify at. The highest is expert.
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:50:31am |
re: #1205 Ben Hur
Just out of curiosity, Did Norm Coleman make the cut?
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Opilio Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:50:42am |
re: #1191 shanec99
Funny they don't report that, but they report the lie that some McCain aide said that Governor Palin did not know that Africa was not a country.
The MSM is
amusingly inept orjust plain corrupt.Perhaps the MSM falls on a continuum between the two extremes I just mentioned.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:51:09am |
re: #1211 realwest
I don't know about the full auto thing. We did not discuss that.
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Ben Hur Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:51:25am |
re: #1215 fish
I happen to believe the dragon myths were created when people from the Middle Ages stumbled upon very large fossil bones and tried to explain what kind of anmal they were from.
SOunds very reasonable.
Mr SilverDragon said the same thing a little up the thread.
And he should know.
He's a dragon.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:51:28am |
re: #1218 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Canada "caught" racism from the US when the government allowed Fox News to be broadcast up here.
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:52:44am |
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:52:55am |
re: #1193 GGMac
Oh, the heartache for you - I have to believe a stillbirth would bring even more excruciating pain. I'm so happy that you have your daughter.
She was showered with love and attention, let me tell ya'! In addition to those circumstances, she was the first grandchild on both sides of the family. In spite of all the spoiling, she turned out fairly well.
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:53:00am |
target="_blank">[Link: cbs3.com...]
Mayor Nutter Heads To D.C., Seeks Bailout Share
PHILADELPHIA (AP) ― The mayors of Phoenix and two other big cities are pressing the federal government to use a portion of the $700 billion financial bailout plan to help large U.S. cities with pension costs, infrastructure investment and cash-flow problems stemming from the global financial crisis.
Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter traveled to Washington on Friday to deliver a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. The letter is signed by Nutter, Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin and Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon.
"We who run some of America's larger cities are dealing with the economic damage wrought by the credit and housing crises as we write this to you," the letter reads. "The economic contraction precipitated by these twin crises is forcing us, and mayors all across the country, to dramatically reduce programs and services for millions of residents we serve."
Last week, Nutter announced Philadelphia would be laying off city employees, cutting salaries, closing most of its swimming pools and shutting nearly a dozen library branches to cope with a $108 million shortfall this year caused by lower business and real estate tax revenue. The deficit could grow to a total of $1 billion over five years.
In Phoenix, the city is expecting a $250 million deficit this year, which could lead to cuts in police, fire, parks and library services, Nutter has said.
The three mayors propose providing loans to help cities pay pension costs. They also want $50 billion in loans for investment in infrastructure, and additional one-year loans to cities unable to borrow cash because of the tight credit markets.
The Philadelphia pension system lost more than $650 million in the first nine months of the year.
"We are not looking for a handout; we are looking for a hand up," the mayors wrote.
Nutter will meet with Treasury officials, senior staff from the Committee on Ways and Means, senior advisers to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and a policy adviser on President-elect Barack Obama's transition team.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:53:16am |
re: #1222 Bumr50
Many of them don't want to lead a productive life. My girlfriend is a bookkeeper for the Salvation Army, and many of their "clients" (the term they use) have been coming since they were children. It's institutional.
Ouch. Do those 'clients' like living like that?
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vxbush Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:53:17am |
re: #1230 Bumr50
The public one. Still weird to me.
I have to admit, I found it rather odd, because even if a family doesn't have a funeral, the family's memorial comes before the public one. So I don't get it myself. But then, I'm a midwesterner, so I don't understand such island customs.
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howyadoin Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:53:29am |
re: #1216 buzzsawmonkey
That's what YMCAs use to be. Now they are Suburban country clubs.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:54:37am |
re: #1229 Kenneth
Canada "caught" racism from the US when the government allowed Fox News to be broadcast up here.
Good Lord... who said that ?
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Opilio Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:54:44am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:54:48am |
re: #1234 Perplexed
Ouch. Do those 'clients' like living like that?
I once sat down & talked with a homeless guy & asked how he came tobe in these circumstances. He said he wanted to be "free", no family, no job, no responsibilities & he didn't regret it.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:54:51am |
re: #1223 shanec99
I dont know anyone who could hit 24 pop up targets with 40 rounds varying from 50 to 300 yards if the rifle was on full auto. Good luck if you find one.
Hell with the CCoL and M-4 I was shooting to qual I hit 35 pop up targets (the targets popped up at random and remained up for 2 seconds). I missed expert by 1 shot.
By the way Sharp Shooter is the second lowest level you can qualify at. The highest is expert.
I just cleared things up with him. He qualified expert with a pistol at 25 yards, rifle at 300 and he was the gunner at the helicopter door with a 50 cal.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:55:01am |
re: #1218 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'm pretty sure Jane Creba was a racist too. After all, she was white and the several young men now on trial for her murder are all black. It couldn't be more clear!
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Ben Hur Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:55:04am |
re: #1224 David Simon
Just out of curiosity, Did Norm Coleman make the cut?
Nyet.
I didn't know he was a Joo.
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:55:20am |
re: #967 Ford_Prefect
re: #934 DistantThunder
You are both incredibly strong women. I am humbled.
Not so strong at those times, I assure you. I had 4 children when the assault of losses began, and by degrees learned to be strong - one must, or risk making life a dirge for those around you. The 5th child was a twin: one miscarried, one "stuck".
Yes, I believe in miracles. :)
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:55:21am |
re: #1233 outsidephilly
The solution is not to cut spending from its obscene levels, but to get someone else to bail 'em out of their own spending messes. Once the hand is outstretched, everyone else under the sun demands their own piece of the pie, regardless of need.
Banks get bailed out, so investment companies line up. Then come municipalities. Then come every other group under the sun, demanding a piece of the action.
It was bad fiscal policy to begin with (no oversight to be seen to boot!) and it's not getting any better with the current iteration.
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gonecamping Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:55:33am |
re: #1215 fish
I happen to believe the dragon myths were created when people from the Middle Ages stumbled upon very large fossil bones and tried to explain what kind of anmal they were from.
Or perhaps Komodo Dragons were more widespread back then and not only found in Indonesia (the Knights killed them all off in Europe).
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:55:50am |
re: #1214 Kenneth
The sharp rise of youth violence in ontario is linked to entrenched racism in the province, according to a long-awaited report that calls on the provincial government to collect race-based statistics and provide anti-racism training to police officers.
”We were taken aback by the extent to which racism is alive and well and wreaking its deeply harmful effects on Ontarians and on the very fabric of this province,” stated the report released this morning by Roy McMurtry and Alvin Curling.
The report on the roots of youth violence was commissioned by Premier Dalton McGuinty following the shooting death of 15-year-old Jordan Manners* at C.W. Jeffreys Collegiate Institute.
Ah yes, whenever I encounter anti-semitism, my thoughts always turn to blowing my friends' brains out.
I wonder who commissioned that "report?"
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:55:55am |
re: #1236 howyadoin
That's what YMCAs use to be. Now they are Suburban country clubs.
And a great place to have a good time. At least that's what The Village People told us.
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howyadoin Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:56:10am |
re: #1232 redstateredneck
I've been there, before. I understand your loss. We continued to build a family through adoption. There is no way to describe the feeling of finally holding that squalling child in your hands!
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:56:21am |
re: #1237 shanec99
Just about any liberal or leftist Canadian you care to meet. I'm only slightly exaggerating. They view Fox News as the plague.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:56:22am |
re: #1206 Bumr50
KHNLYour text to link...is reporting that Obama is not attending his grandmothers memorial service.
I read yesterday that the family is going to come later next month for a private memorial service.
/whatever
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:56:33am |
re: #1211 realwest
Uh, no disprespect meant to him, but NOBODY'S a sharpshooter with an M-14 on full auto. Trust me on this. The M-14 rifle was a great rifle for semi-auto - aimed fire. On full auto it was too light to be able for the shooter to handle the recoil.
Did you ever shoot a Springfield .30/06?
Best I've every personally used for shots 200 yards out or more.
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SecondComing Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:56:48am |
re: #603 Kenneth
Let me see if I understand Ayers' thinking...
So in Ayers' mind, bombing is not terrorism and associating with somebody is not associating.
haha he's a piece of work. He said he doesn't consider it terrorism because he says no one was hurt.
It drove me nuts that he couldn't understand how there would be questions about Obamas associations with him(pentagon bomber etc..) when Obama was running for POTUS.
Not to mention he thinks he's being "demonized".* Rolls eyes*
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:57:07am |
re: #1238 Opilio
No political advantage to be gained. No political cost to be paid. No surprise.
Typical white person.
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:57:13am |
re: #1233 outsidephilly
Your mayor is appropriately named.
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unreconstructed rebel Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:57:28am |
re: #1127 Bumr50
Bill Ayers is NOTHING without the protest. If we lived somehow happily under socialism, he'd be a staunch capitalist.
I'm convinced.
He just has that loser feel about him. He's the trenchcoat mafia with slightly more intelligence and much less authentic conviction.
What a piece of fecal matter.
Are you saying he's a rich kid without enough to do? I see a lot of that living in Horse Country. Over-educated, under-employed brats.
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turn Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:58:21am |
re: #1151 lawhawk
The longwarjournal link you posted a few minutes ago was was well worth reading. I wonder if Obama has been briefed on this little publicized bit:
"US intelligence believes al Qaeda has regenerated its capacity to strike at the West by rebuilding in Pakistan's northwest. There are currently 157 training camps and "more than 400 support locations" spread throughout the tribal areas and the settled districts of the Northwest Frontier Province, senior intelligence officials speaking on the condition of anonymity told The Long War Journal on Aug. 13. This number does not include Taliban camps and support locations in Baluchistan province."
I had know idea there were that many al Qaeda camps. It really, really is a tribute to the Bush administration that we haven't been attacked in the US since 9/11. This really is going to be a long war, O better come to the table ready and willing to fight it otherwise we'll be screwed again big time.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:58:46am |
re: #1244 lawhawk
I give Gov. David Patterson here in NY credit for proposing massive cuts in spending...
I do find it funny that Mayor Blomberg classified cancelling fall leaf collection this year as a major spending cut for the Sanitation Depatrment...
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:59:01am |
re: #1240 bellamags
I just cleared things up with him. He qualified expert with a pistol at 25 yards, rifle at 300 and he was the gunner at the helicopter door with a 50 cal.
OK... well... that is more reasonable.
But to qualify with a rifle on full auto... what a load of croc.
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:59:05am |
re: #1239 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I once sat down & talked with a homeless guy & asked how he came tobe in these circumstances. He said he wanted to be "free", no family, no job, no responsibilities & he didn't regret it.
Ah, the frontiersmen of yesterday living in the cities of today. A wolf down from the steppes.
Understandable even if unpleasant.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:59:43am |
re: #1245 Iron Fist
Thanks. That rifle is sweet and looks kinda mean also. We looked at the Springfeilds online and they run about 2500. Thanks for the info and he'll check out the SOCOM.
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MandyManners Fri, Nov 14, 2008 8:59:54am |
re: #1216 buzzsawmonkey
Eminently sensible. But, I can hear the grievance community's organizers ripping it to shreds.
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Opilio Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:00:25am |
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:00:41am |
re: #1250 Kenneth
Just about any liberal or leftist Canadian you care to meet. I'm only slightly exaggerating. They view Fox News as the plague.
Then I hope they all get bitten by the fox flea.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:00:43am |
re: #1247 David Simon
The report on the roots of youth violence was commissioned by Premier Dalton McGuinty (Liberal). Former Attorney General Roy McMurtry (Conservative) and former MPP Alvin Curling (Liberal) headed the commission.
I am curious to read what the report actually says, as distinct from what the media reports are saying.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:00:48am |
re: #1249 howyadoin
I've been there, before. I understand your loss. We continued to build a family through adoption. There is no way to describe the feeling of finally holding that squalling child in your hands!
I mentioned upthread that my daughter was born 10 weeks early and spent 8 weeks in NICU. It was 3 weeks before we were able to hold her. The combination of relief and fear was nearly overwhelming.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:00:57am |
President-elect Barack Obama will meet Monday with John McCain in talks that Obama's transition office said would focus on ways they can cooperate on an array of troublesome issues facing the country.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Not sure why this meeting is taking place? McCain no longer represents anyone? That bus has pulled out of the station!
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J.S. Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:02:10am |
re: #1234 Perplexed
I saw a film (indepent film, iirc) which simply followed around some homeless men...to document how the person lived, what the person experienced (the camera was kept as inobtrusive as possible). One had been a child protege -- a classical pianist...(he was clearly suffering from a mental illness -- probably manic depression.) He lived outdoors, ate from garbage bins, but claimed to love his "freedom." Another homeless person pushed a shopping cart (all his possessions in the cart), a totally addicted alcoholic...lived only to beg for money, and drink it...but he said, he wouldn't live any other way. He said in his "former life" he had been a well paid, productive member of society (complete with wife and children) but gave it all up, due to drinking (he also showed, exhibited, "mental" problems -- but more associated with long term drinking -- ie, brain damage). Anyway, at the end of the film, there was an update or follow-up-- the film returned one year later. The pianist had committed suicide, and the alcoholic was still out on the streets.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:02:26am |
re: #1269 Nevergiveup
President-elect Barack Obama will meet Monday with John McCain in talks that Obama's transition office said would focus on ways they can cooperate on an array of troublesome issues facing the country.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Not sure why this meeting is taking place? McCain no longer represents anyone? That bus has pulled out of the station!
I would consider Obama to be the most troubling issue facing this country.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:02:48am |
re: #1269 Nevergiveup
President-elect Barack Obama will meet Monday with John McCain in talks that Obama's transition office said would focus on ways they can cooperate on an array of troublesome issues facing the country.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Not sure why this meeting is taking place? McCain no longer represents anyone? That bus has pulled out of the station!
He's being considered for Sec Def.
/half
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:03:18am |
re: #1267 Kenneth
I am curious to read what the report actually says, as distinct from what the media reports are saying.
Yes, that's a good point. As the media spinning of the Duelfer Report shows, what's in the report isn't what necessarily gets reported.
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:03:22am |
re: #1259 tfc3rid
So do I. I, however, expect him to cave and it will be window dressing cuts and tax increases as he's now leaning towards accepting tolls on the East River bridges. The last thing the city needs is to tax commuters and customers coming into the city to do business - it will drain taxpayer wallets who will decide it's cheaper to do business elsewhere, lowering revenues for the City faster than the tolls will replenish them.
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Ben Hur Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:04:07am |
Has anybody else seen Top Sniper on the Military Channel?
They can actually take out targets while sitting in helicopters.
Helicopters that are in the air.
I love the Military Channel.
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:05:02am |
re: #1258 turn
Nope. He will get no credit at all for his actions. The NYT will continue to undermine the covert ops into Pakistan, etc., and yet Bush has done his duty to keep the nation safe from mass casualty terrorist attacks on the homeland since 9/11.
Let us pray that Obama can keep up that record.
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Macker Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:05:04am |
Time for me to goto work. Hey Charles, did you have a late night last night?
/F.I.I.F.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:05:33am |
re: #1260 shanec99
OK... well... that is more reasonable.
But to qualify with a rifle on full auto... what a load of croc.
He didn't. Do you think I am making this up? When I talked to him a few minutes ago he agreed. No one can qualify with the gun on full auto. I never said anything about full auto. And don't you mean load of shit or croc of shit?
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The Other Les Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:05:34am |
re: #1276 Iron Fist
There's a reason I now refer to MTV as Moron Television.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:05:37am |
re: #1274 lawhawk
Exactly... This city will further hemmorrage businessand long time citizens like myself...
I need to move someplace with lower taxes and friendlier people... Too bad my folks will never leave this area...
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Opilio Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:06:35am |
re: #1269 Nevergiveup
Not sure why this meeting is taking place? McCain no longer represents anyone? That bus has pulled out of the station!
Well he's still a senator, so he sort of represents about 6,000,000 people from AZ.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:06:43am |
re: #1249 howyadoin
I've been there, before. I understand your loss. We continued to build a family through adoption. There is no way to describe the feeling of finally holding that squalling child in your hands!
I grieved for the baby. My husband grieved for me.
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DeafDog Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:07:03am |
re: #1233 outsidephilly
target="_blank">[Link: cbs3.com...]
"We are not looking for a handout; we are looking for a hand up," the mayors wrote.
We will be hearing that phrase - or permutations thereof - lots.
Allow me to translate what he really means --- "Please give us a handout."
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:07:15am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:07:22am |
re: #1283 Opilio
Well he's still a senator, so he sort of represents about 6,000,000 people from AZ.
I don't notice Obama meeting individually with all the other Senators?
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:07:51am |
re: #1191 shanec99
Funny they don't report that, but they report the lie that some McCain aide said that Governor Palin did not know that Africa was not a country.
The MSM is amusingly inept or just plain corrupt. Perhaps the MSM falls on a continuum between the two extremes I just mentioned.
Well, actuallythe Boxer aide thing is on MSNBC front page today. . .so it's not like they're not reporting it.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:07:59am |
re: #1276 Iron Fist
Yes. You are right. What is the fun in being responsible? Their whole philosophy is anti-social. Just do what feels good man, don't worry about it. Most of the bad problems this country faces, especially the financial crisis, is caused by doing what makes you feel good and ignoring facts and consequences.
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WrathofG-d Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:09:10am |
Where Is Zombie? I would LOVE photos of this..."Israel Liberation Week" at U.C. Berkeley (brought to you by the Zionist Freedom Alliance) [unless it is over by now]
Approximately 15 rockets rain down on Israeli civilians, wounding 70 year old woman.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:09:28am |
re: #1281 The Other Les
There's a reason I now refer to MTV as Moron Television.
The amazing thing is that MTV has gotten dumber since the mid 90s when I realized it was too stupid for me to watch anymore.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:09:52am |
Jason Lewis filling in for Rush today so there will be lots of talk about the Minnesota Senator's race theft.
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Yashmak Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:09:53am |
re: #1285 buzzsawmonkey
One of the reasons that Republicans should avoid bipartisanship with the Obama administration is that they will be setting themselves up as patsies for the blame for every single administration failure.
That's going to happen anyway. Dodd is pre-emptively blaming Republican resistance for the not-yet-happened failure of the Big 3 bailout. Wait a minute Mr. Dodd. . .I thought your boys had a MAJORITY now.
Nothing will stop them from blaming their every failure on the Republicans.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:10:21am |
re: #1272 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
He's being considered for Sec Def.
/half
Well if he is it wont be the first time a Republican Senator served as a Democratic President's Sec Def. Sen William Cohen served as Preseident Clinton's Sec Def.
Frequently there are not very many people who can serve as Sec Defs in a Democratic Administration from the Democratic Party. Anyone remember Les Aspin (pull the Armor out of Somalia so there was no American armor to support the rescue effort when the helo went down).
I guess Sen Webb (D-Va) could, he served as SecNav during Pres Reagan's administration. Back then he was a Republican though, so today he is a Democrat with Republican influence and a history of military service (I think he is a Naval Academy grad, and he has a son who served in Iraq).
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:10:34am |
re: #1284 redstateredneck
I grieved for the baby. My husband grieved for me.
I understand that. In some respects I was more worried for my wife than I was for the baby. I think there was a part of me that never really accepted the idea that she wouldn't live. It wasn't until much later that I relized just how much danger she was in.
BTW, she is now very healthy. At her one year checkup the doc said that you would never know she was a premie.
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DeafDog Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:10:43am |
re: #1239 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I once sat down & talked with a homeless guy & asked how he came tobe in these circumstances. He said he wanted to be "free", no family, no job, no responsibilities & he didn't regret it.
I know it sounds crass to some, but it's a free country. You are free to do well or free to be poor. You choose and work for what you want.
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Dustoff-507 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:10:45am |
Well it's Friday.
What in the heck is going on?
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:10:56am |
re: #976 outsidephilly
re: #921 GGMac
re: #934 DistantThunder
You are both incredibly strong women. I am humbled.
Yes, incredibly strong women! I'm honored to get to 'hang-out' with y'all, occasionally!
Great room, where we all get to hang out together, and find out just how incredibly small the world is.
How "outside" Philly are you? In the early 1940's - eeesh, that's a long time ago - I lived at 206 Runnymede Ave in Jenkintown. I was very, v-e-r-y young at the time!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:11:33am |
re: #1287 Kenneth
The record for the longest confirmed sniper kill in combat: 2,430 metres.
You Canucks will never let us Yanks live that down, will you?
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:12:20am |
re: #1280 bellamags
He didn't. Do you think I am making this up? When I talked to him a few minutes ago he agreed. No one can qualify with the gun on full auto. I never said anything about full auto. And don't you mean load of shit or croc of shit?
Didn't want to offend the kids and old ladies in the room... so I used an alternative expression.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:12:39am |
re: #1223 shanec99
Huh. Well waaay back in the day, we shot for qualification at 84 pop up targets, with M-14's on semi-auto; needed 60 out of 84 to qualify as expert (sorry don't remember how long they were up for, but my memory, such as it is, was about 4 seconds) from 100 to 450 yards (not meters!).
I hit 80 out of 84 and finished second in my training brigade - of which there were approximately 12 companies organized into 3 battalions.
Number 1 guy had an astounding 82 out of 84 and I swear if they'd let him, he'd a fixed his bayonette and gone after those two he missed! Two of the four I missed were at 450 yards cause I honestly couldn't see them that well.
And I had never fired anything more than a BB gun before basic training. The Army sure can teach you how to shoot. But this full auto thing is sort of a joke.
Now with the M-16, I could fire on full auto and hit the targets waaay more often than not.
But my weapon of choice while "visiting" SE Asia was the CAR-15 - sucker needed no zero firing; right out of the box she was sweet - full auto all the time.
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Buck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:12:42am |
re: #1085 fish
Would someone please explain to me the difference between serving on a board with this POS and going over to his house, And say Serving on a board and visting Osama Bin Laden's house? Timothy McVeigh? Terry Nichols?
Whenever the moonbat points out that Obama was only 8 when Billy the Terrorist was using violence in an attempt to topple the government of the USA, we need to ask the question...
In that case, how many years before we can start to be friends with the people who planned 9/11? 10 years? 20?
At what point can we be friends with those people directly involved with 9/11?
Just askin'
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:12:49am |
re: #1298 Ford_Prefect
BTW, she is now very healthy. At her one year checkup the doc said that you would never know she was a premie.
That's wonderful. It is just amazing what they can do for those tiniest little babies.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:13:39am |
re: #1300 Dustoff-507
Well it's Friday.
What in the heck is going on?
Just workin' for the weekend!
:D
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Buck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:13:44am |
re: #1287 Kenneth
The record for the longest confirmed sniper kill in combat: 2,430 metres.
And thats what Canada does!
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:13:47am |
re: #1287 Kenneth
The record for the longest confirmed sniper kill in combat: 2,430 metres.
What did he shoot him with... a Barrett?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:13:50am |
re: #1297 shanec99
Well if he is it wont be the first time a Republican Senator served as a Democratic President's Sec Def. Sen William Cohen served as Preseident Clinton's Sec Def.
Frequently there are not very many people who can serve as Sec Defs in a Democratic Administration from the Democratic Party. Anyone remember Les Aspin (pull the Armor out of Somalia so there was no American armor to support the rescue effort when the helo went down).
And he insisted that sending AC-130 gunships would have "escalated" the situation, so he wouldn't send them over to Somalia, wither. A few of those would have been very useful.
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Dustoff-507 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:13:58am |
re: #1303 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
WELL, he did have to shoot 3 times. (-:
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:14:31am |
re: #1301 GGMac
Great room, where we all get to hang out together, and find out just how incredibly small the world is.
How "outside" Philly are you? In the early 1940's - eeesh, that's a long time ago - I lived at 206 Runnymede Ave in Jenkintown. I was very, v-e-r-y young at the time!
Remember the Bazaar on Balitmore Pike?
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Dustoff-507 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:15:15am |
re: #1306 realwest
OK you guys... I shot left handed... DAMN hot shells in the face. )-:
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DeafDog Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:15:48am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:15:58am |
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Opilio Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:16:08am |
re: #1288 Nevergiveup
I don't notice Obama meeting individually with all the other Senators?
I know. Meeting with McCain is, at best, some sort of symbolic gesture. McCain is politically irrelevant now.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:16:23am |
re: #1306 realwest
When my older brother was drafted during Viet Nam, our Dad told him not to shoot as well as he could in basic and for God's sake, don't tell 'em you can drive a truck.
He ended up in the 50th Army Band stationed at Hampton, VA and went to a lot of parades.
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David Simon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:16:25am |
re: #1305 Iron Fist
I wonder if it's going to be like yesterday? One of these times, it's going to go down and not come back up. Not for a very long time, anyway.
Yesterday's rally was most likely short covering. Usually, after a vicious sell-off, any feeble excuse - even a lame duck President's speech - can produce a short-lived rally as the shorts rush to lock in profits. I doubt we're coming back today, but I could be wrong.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:16:57am |
re: #1291 buzzsawmonkey
Electronic toll collection... 'High speed' EZ pass and if you don't have EZ pass, they'll take a photo of your plate and forward a bill...
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:16:57am |
re: #1306 realwest
I am a Navy HM who was assigned to the Iraqi Army as an advisor in Iraq. I carried a M-4 and a Baretta 9mm. The M-4 is a sweet weapon.
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DeafDog Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:17:05am |
re: #1285 buzzsawmonkey
One of the reasons that Republicans should avoid bipartisanship with the Obama administration is that they will be setting themselves up as patsies for the blame for every single administration failure.
I agree with that. Gates should not accept SecDef under Obama.
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gonecamping Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:17:26am |
re: #1303 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You Canucks will never let us Yanks live that down, will you?
That's ok, one of my favorite 'war movies' is the one about Audie Murphy, a great American hero. Besides, if the record is not held by an American, I'm glad it's an Ally doing the shooting.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:17:33am |
re: #1215 fish
I happen to believe the dragon myths were created when people from the Middle Ages stumbled upon very large fossil bones and tried to explain what kind of animal they were from.
There's speculation that the Greek myths about Cyclopsissussuses a race of giant men with one eye in the middle of their foreheads may have originated when ancient Europeans, who had never seen living elephants, discovered fossilized mammoth skulls.
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:18:00am |
re: #1319 buzzsawmonkey
Tolerance in the Age of Obama.
Brave girl.
I heard her being interviewed on Fox this morning.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:18:34am |
re: #1304 shanec99
Didn't want to offend the kids and old ladies in the room... so I used an alternative expression.
HA.
Load of crocs.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:19:13am |
re: #1319 buzzsawmonkey
Tolerance in the Age of Obama.
Brave girl.
Yep, quite the experiment in uber-leftist Oak Park. Saw Kass's column yesterday on this. Very good, and very informative about Progressive tolerance (or lack thereof).
/BTW, I got a +64 last I saw for linking it. :-)
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:19:22am |
re: #1308 redstateredneck
That's wonderful. It is just amazing what they can do for those tiniest little babies.
Absolutely. I am in awe of those people. One of the PA's in the NICU has become a good friend of ours. For some reason he just felt an attachment to our daughter from the start. We used to come in and find the crib empty. Then we would look around and see him behind the reception desk holding her. We reconnected with him when the hospital had a 'Reunion' for the NICU grads. They do it every five years or so. It was great. We also bring her back each year around her birthday. The nurses and PA's are always thrilled to see their former patients doing well. It is also great for the parents that might be their at the time. I know it meant a lot to us to see that.
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:19:33am |
re: #1318 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
16" naval guns.
/
What they brought out the old Iowa class battleship to take out a Jihadist?
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Perplexed Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:19:33am |
re: #1311 shanec99
In 2002, he participated in Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan's Shah-i-Kot Valley as a member of the 3rd Battalion of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI). His sniper team included MCpl. Graham Ragsdale (Team Commander), MCpl. Tim McMeekin, MCpl. Arron Perry, Cpl. Dennis Eason. A three-man al-Qaeda weapons team was moving into a mountainside position when Furlong took aim with his Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW), a .50-caliber McMillan Brothers Tac-50 rifle. He began firing at a fighter carrying an RPK machine gun. His first shot missed entirely, and his second shot hit the knapsack on the militant's back. The third struck the target's torso, killing him. The distance was measured as 2,430 metres (2,657 yd / 1.509 miles).
Looks that way.
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tfc3rid Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:19:42am |
re: #1320 Opilio
I know. Meeting with McCain is, at best, some sort of symbolic gesture. McCain is politically irrelevant now.
It's to show that Obama reaches across the aisle...
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:20:04am |
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capitalist piglet Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:20:17am |
re: #1263 MandyManners
Eminently sensible. But, I can hear the grievance community's organizers ripping it to shreds.
We've got a group of homeless "advocates" in my area who openly admit that their mission is to make homelessness as visible as possible, in areas as affluent as possible. They don't want buildings. They threaten to put homeless camps in public parks next to elementary schools (and their camps have a long history of drawing drug abusers, sex offenders, and a host of other dysfunctional individuals) - basically using the homeless as a tool with which to extort money from the county, the well-meaning, and the "we'll pay you, just go away" part of the local population.
Liberal churches are lined up and bending over backwards to host their camps, but what they really have their eye on is public land. They almost had it, too, but the Republicans in the county found a clause in the county charter that kept them from taking over the spot they originally wanted.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:20:18am |
re: #1328 Throbert McGee
There's speculation that the Greek myths about
Cyclopsissussusesa race of giant men with one eye in the middle of their foreheads may have originated when ancient Europeans, who had never seen living elephants, discovered fossilized mammoth skulls.
Oh, please. We've all heard of Cyclopes, but who's ever seen a big furry elephant?
/
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:20:31am |
re: #1301 GGMac
Great room, where we all get to hang out together, and find out just how incredibly small the world is.
How "outside" Philly are you? In the early 1940's - eeesh, that's a long time ago - I lived at 206 Runnymede Ave in Jenkintown. I was very, v-e-r-y young at the time!
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Dustoff-507 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:20:47am |
re: #1331 bellamags
Look like PISSED OFF lizards to me. LOL
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:20:58am |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:21:36am |
"I think it's wrong that only one company makes the game Monopoly." Steven Wright
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Dustoff-507 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:21:50am |
re: #1335 shanec99
Sweet idea. Fire another VW please. (-:
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outsidephilly Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:21:58am |
re: #1342 outsidephilly
out side of philly by 28 minutes or so
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:22:21am |
re: #1344 shanec99
In Canadian service, the standard telescopic sight is a 16X Leupold optical sight.
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bellamags Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:22:25am |
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:22:51am |
re: #1332 buzzsawmonkey
How'd she do?
Oh, she was great. I was listening to Fox & Friends on XM in my car, so I didn't see her, but she was talking about how they told her she should be burned for wearing the McCain shirt and but the next day when she was the Obama girl, they told her she had gotten her brain right, or something. Can't remember her exact words. She was very articulate and self-confident for only 14 years old.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:23:12am |
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Opilio Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:23:12am |
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:23:19am |
re: #1023 christheprofessor
#991 unclassifiable
Dude! How's my favorite unique human lima bean? (now that would be an interesting DNA composition...
DNA. Ours is: 97% the same as chimps
75% the same as dogs
33% the same as daffodils *
*Does this indicate that a certain segment of humanity has excessive daffodil DNA?
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:23:57am |
re: #1245 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - don't have any real arguments with anything you said, but I WILL point out the tremendous weight differential between the M-14 and the M-16 just in terms of ammo.
Try carrying 180 rounds of 7.62 vs. 180 rounds of 5.56 and you'll see what I mean - if you need to travel any sorta distance on foot, carrying your ammo with you, the 5.56 makes a noticeable difference!
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:24:11am |
re: #1341 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Oh, please. We've all heard of Cyclopes, but who's ever seen a big furry elephant?
/
I saw "Ice Age", does that count?
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:24:59am |
re: #1351 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Am I the only one who has an irrational loathing of those shoes?
My 18 year old hates them. I have a pair, but I promise I only wear them for yard work!
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:25:55am |
re: #1353 GGMac
DNA. Ours is: 97% the same as chimps
75% the same as dogs
33% the same as daffodils **Does this indicate that a certain segment of humanity has excessive daffodil DNA?
But nobody has ever found a transitional fossil between a human and a doffodil... I guess that pretty much proves evolution is wrong!
///sarc
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:26:39am |
re: #1252 3 wood
Nope, never had the pleasure of firing that Springfield.
But man-o-man I loved that M-14 (y'all understand that "my" M-14 had been used by probably 100 or more trainees before me and it was STILL extraordinarily accurate).
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Dustoff-507 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:26:47am |
re: #1354 realwest
Hey buddy, that's what Hueys are for. (-:
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shanec99 Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:27:01am |
re: #1348 Kenneth
In Canadian service, the standard telescopic sight is a 16X Leupold optical sight.
Sounds like that boy can shoot a tic off a steer's behind without disturbing a hair.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:28:08am |
re: #1337 tfc3rid
It's to show that Obama reaches across the aisle...
Shit he usually is on the other side of the isle!
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:30:46am |
re: #1365 shanec99
It was quite a feat, not just that one shot but the whole mission. Unfortunately, the whole unit of snipers were attacked and run out of the military following the mission. Makes for sad reading. These men are heroes and they were treated like shit.
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fish Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:32:57am |
re: #1353 GGMac
DNA. Ours is: 97% the same as chimps
75% the same as dogs
33% the same as daffodils **Does this indicate that a certain segment of humanity has excessive daffodil DNA?
Unfortunately these are the people usually elected to office...
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redstateredneck Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:34:45am |
re: #1360 winston06
We need a new thread now ;-)
Whadda we need?
A new thread!
When do we need it?
Now!
/Lizard uprising
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bcgirl Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:34:52am |
hey all how is it going this freaky friday here in the land of O,, in my parallel universe i have started a notebook of broken promises from hopey changey,, someone else says i should go read infowars alex jones i took a quick scan, any lizards read that ,, my "friend" says there is some good stuff in there,, i am not a 9/11 troofer so i already know i won't be reading that but i do like to have lots of resources for my little book, LGF being the major resource of course, the only place to get thru the s**t
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:36:56am |
re: #1297 shanec99
Yeah, Jimmy Webb would make a very good Sec Def, as far as I'm concerned. He's a legitimately highly decorated Vietnam Vet (Marines) and resigned from the Reagan cabinet, iirc, because he couldn't convince them that the Navy NEEDED Marine Amphibious/Helo attack carriers.
His judgment has been subsequently vindicated.
Oh and btw, he IS PROUD to be an AMERICAN.
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J.S. Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:37:22am |
re: #1357 buzzsawmonkey
That reminds me of a disturbing "news" clip I saw on CNN. The reporters were, of course, gushing about the creation of yet another government department. The Zero intends to create a Technology Czar...and the reporters were musing about who would be a suitable candidate -- offering up names. One of the proposed candidates was Google's CEO (I hear that he's said, "no thanks") -- but the melding of Big Government with Search Engines, etc. Where's the privacy? Another one of The Zero's proposals is to have everyone's medical records on an electronic database...The obvious problems (very real concerns) are never addressed by the Obamabots...just enthusiastically endorsed.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:40:44am |
re: #1316 Dustoff-507
LOL! So did I! Extremely poor vision in right eye -from birth - and couldn't even zero fire my M-14 right handed!
Ya get so you don't mind those ejected shells, once you have your helmet adjusted properly - just noisy as hell!
How ya doing my friend?!
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:41:38am |
re: #1371 bcgirl
Alex Jones is a lying raving paranoid jerk. Avoid his website like the plague. Avoid anybody who reads his website. Pure garbage.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:41:46am |
re: #1305 Iron Fist
I wonder if it's going to be like yesterday? One of these times, it's going to go down and not come back up. Not for a very long time, anyway.
I think it will drop to 7,000 eventually.
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wiffersnapper Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:42:49am |
"Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored."
Same could be said about Hillary Clinton.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:43:10am |
re: #1321 redstateredneck
LOL! Yeah word in our basic and AIT companies was "Don't shoot well or they'll send your ass to Vietnam!".
Regrettably, I didn't believe them.
Sigh.
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Kenneth Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:44:04am |
re: #1372 Iron Fist
They were given U.S. Bronze Stars. Ambassador Paul Cellucci, was eventually allowed to give award them in 2005.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:44:09am |
re: #1326 DeafDog
I wonder if it's going to be like yesterday? One of these times, it's going to go down and not come back up. Not for a very long time, anyway.
The only Republicans that Chicago Machine Democrats will tolerate are lap dog house boys.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:45:09am |
re: #1325 shanec99
Uh, what's a Navy HM ? And I've heard that about the M-4 which I think bears a striking resemblence to the CAR-15.
Hated it when they switched from the 1911 .45's to the nine's though.
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:50:25am |
re: #1153 WriterMom
I've been there, too. One never forgets.
{GGMac}
And for you {WriterMom}. We seem to have a sisterhood here.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:53:14am |
re: #1363 realwest
Nope, never had the pleasure of firing that Springfield.
But man-o-man I loved that M-14 (y'all understand that "my" M-14 had been used by probably 100 or more trainees before me and it was STILL extraordinarily accurate).
Understood.
I did some deer hunting with the .30/06 with a scope.
Sweet piece of iron.
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:53:55am |
re: #1383 Iron Fist
Well my problem with the 9's is stopping power. I KNOW that if you hit a guy in the hand with a .45 you'll put his ass on the ground. Period.
Not sure how many times you'd have to hit him in the CHEST with a 9 before he'd go down!
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realwest Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:55:03am |
re: #1385 3 wood
Hey my friend - didja get my e-mail from last night about tomorrow?!
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WrathofG-d Fri, Nov 14, 2008 9:56:41am |
With I had found this yesterday, but it will probably come up at LGF again.
So fitting, and funny. "G-d Bless You"
(*rated PG 13)
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 10:12:20am |
re: #1387 realwest
re: #1385 3 wood
Hey my friend - didja get my e-mail from last night about tomorrow?!
Hold on, give me a minute to check.
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3 wood Fri, Nov 14, 2008 10:14:33am |
Real, OK, got it, will do. It's 12:14 here now, what time is it there?
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GGMac Fri, Nov 14, 2008 10:34:44am |
re: #1268 Ford_Prefect
I mentioned upthread that my daughter was born 10 weeks early and spent 8 weeks in NICU. It was 3 weeks before we were able to hold her. The combination of relief and fear was nearly overwhelming.
You think I'm a strong woman? My good grief, I can't imagine going through what you did - Not being able to hold your daughter? Having to leave her out of your sight? The anguish and fear would be just awful to get through. How long was it till you actually were able to have a restful night's sleep?
Amazing, isn't it - the ways we learn what love means?
{Ford_Prefect}
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