he's a shit

Good morning Charles.

I wish Ayers would just FOAD.

Why is this man not behind bars, rotting away for his crimes?

Truth != Smear.

Sorry, Mr. Ayers, your logic is flawed.

re: #3 Honorary Yooper

Why is this man not behind bars, rotting away for his crimes?

The Feds screwed up the surveillance so the judge tossed the evidence.

re: #3 Honorary Yooper

Why is this man not behind bars, rotting away for his crimes?

Charges were filed then dropped when they found evidence of illegal wire taps. Wonder if they could use his own words against him?

Ayers? Ayers? Why haven't we heard of this guy before?

back to sleep... zzzzzzz

My brain is exploding!

Ayers is a piece of crap... A damn powerful piece of crap now... And, oh yeah, a family friend of CiC Zero.

Whatever you think of Ayers, he played this one smart. He stayed out of the news until Obama was safely elected, because he knew if he expressed his real opinions about radicalizing students, reparations, abolishing prisons, etc., his relationship with Obama would—rightfully—become a major issue in the campaign. And he counted on the media not to investigate him.

...and the media didn't and won't

ABC describes him as a 'respected' professor. They are hiding some of the ballots on that issue.

According to Ayers, he wasn’t a terrorist. He was a hero, fighting injustice...

That's what all terrorists say.

#4. Logic had nothing to do with this babs streisand bunch of dem0crat lsm terrorist promoting bunch of AmeriKKKa gooneys.
And them's their good points!

Obama never gave the truth about his past and I am sure he'll pay for his lies some day politically

re: #14 Ringo the Gringo

That's what all terrorists say.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...

It's a wonder he didn't use that phrase...

re: #7 Perplexed

Charges were filed then dropped when they found evidence of illegal wire taps. Wonder if they could use his own words against him?

Yeah, you know, I don't see how this would constitute double jeopardy. He never was tried and found innocent. It's only double jeopardy if you've actually been prosecuted, isn't it?

re: #5 buzzsawmonkey

re: #6 MandyManners

re: #7 Perplexed

I was being rhetorical, but thanks.

re: #16 winston06

Not a chance...

why does his wife bernadette keep such a low profile?

re: #3 Honorary Yooper

Why is this man not behind bars, rotting away for his crimes?

Because the Feds blew it.

Q: How does William Ayres differ from Timothy McVeigh?

A: McVeigh's dead.

To paraphrase something a rabbi said "You can learn a lot from a criminal. They never give up."

And he counted on the media not to investigate him.

And, of course, the vast majority of the MSM obliged.

Just as Cuomo also never asked Ayers about his manifesto and willingness, no, almost callous glee, in the fact that 25 million non-repentent capitalists would have to be executed in order to create Ayers' utopia.

This POS isn't a useful idiot - he's a willing and unrepetent enemy of all this country stands for....and his freedom is proof that this country honors the rule of law despite the threat to its own existence.

Charles, I disagree with your statement that this would have "become a major issue in the campaign." We could have had photos of Ayers and Obama performing certain "favors" on one another and MSM still would have turned a blind eye. The Messiah can do no wrong.

re: #23 Wisenheimer

Q: How does William Ayres differ from Timothy McVeigh?

A: McVeigh's dead.

McVeigh's bomb was a hell of a lot bigger too.

re: #18 Tigger2005

Yeah, you know, I don't see how this would constitute double jeopardy. He never was tried and found innocent. It's only double jeopardy if you've actually been prosecuted, isn't it?

Pretty much. You've got to be tried, found innocent (i.e. OJ Simpson on double murder charges) then you walk never to be tried for that crime again. Only thing might be statute of limitations and political muscle.

re: #17 tfc3rid

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...

It's a wonder he didn't use that phrase...

Freedom fighter for whom? A bunch of overgrown 2 year olds who still haven't grown past that destructive phase?

He doesn't "buy the idea of guilt by association."
Lying scumbag terrorist. That's the core of your political thought.

re: #21 apachegunner

why does his wife bernadette keep such a low profile?

He probably beats her. Freedom fighters are like that ya know?

re: #26 logboy

Would have been a plus in some communities.

"I'm not a terrorist, I'm a freedom fighter."

re: #16 winston06

Obama never gave the truth about his past and I am sure he'll pay for his lies some day politically

Donks never lie, they are just "taken out of context" and when faced with irrefutable evidence they are being "swiftboated".

//

re: #36 HDrepub
the newest "misspoke"

re: #16 winston06

Obama never gave the truth about his past and I am sure he'll pay for his lies some day politically

There once was I time when I would have believed that as well. Alas, no more.

And he counted on the media not to investigate him.

If you can't count on your friends, who can you count on?

It's too bad we couldn't put a Hellfire up his ass.

Barack doesn't know me either. Really, he doesn't.

Seriously.

We've never met.

Gotta watch my associations.

re: #38 apachegunner

the newest "misspoke"

I poked a miss once?

re: #21 apachegunner

why does his wife bernadette keep such a low profile?

There are certain things in her past that may not fall under the statute of limitations.

re: #41 Ward Cleaver
well spoken, a modified one even

I wonder what cabinet level position he will receive? Or maybe he will take the ambassador route, I bet he'd get along great with the folks in Gaza. Perhaps the new embassy in Tehran?

re: #44 Walter L. Newton
ooooops, sooooorrrrryyyyyyy charlie

and now thanks to the MSM he gets to roll in dough from all of the publicity. but he hates America!?

re: #18 Tigger2005

Yeah, you know, I don't see how this would constitute double jeopardy. He never was tried and found innocent. It's only double jeopardy if you've actually been prosecuted, isn't it?

If the evidence was inadmissable then, it would still be now because the court would have to apply the rules of evidence in existence back then.

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Not cool. Please read Charles' rules about making statements that mention violence. See the top of this page.

well hell Walter, whats a hellfire up the ass sound like anyway?

re: #30 jaunte

He doesn't "buy the idea of guilt by association."

Tell that to the FBI when your background is checked for a security clearance.

With Ayers' type of convoluded and warped reasoning, one who thinks that abortion is a war on the unborn has a right to bomb abortion clinics and be morally justified in doing so. This guy should be in jail!

At least the IDF knows how to deal with terrorists.

re: #21 apachegunner

Because she is being investigated for possible involvement in a 1970 cop killing in the bay area.

re: #48 apachegunner

ooooops, sooooorrrrryyyyyyy charlie

Comment gone. And Charles, I forgot not to quote it. Delete 44 if needed.

sorry Walt, that was Ward wasn't it.

re: #21 apachegunner

why does his wife bernadette keep such a low profile?

I guessing that she is not as articulate as Bill Ayers. And probably not as intelligent either.

Didn't she praise the Manson Family after the Tate murders?

re: #21 apachegunner

why does his wife bernadette keep such a low profile?

Because there are unsolved fatal crimes she was probably associated with. She knows the statue of limitations doesn't run out on those, and doesn't want to inadvertently give law enforcement any leads. Same reason there are big stretches of his time on the run that Ayers doesn't talk about in his books.

re: #41 Ward Cleaver

Talk about an enema!

re: #49 gman

and now thanks to the MSM he gets to roll in dough from all of the publicity. but he hates America!?

He's only an anarchist/socialist on paper. He'll take all the money he can get.

As a LE officer, it has always bugged the hell out of me when I would see criminals get away with their crimes, but seeing this scumbag being celebrated, really makes me wonder why there isn't more cases of "street justice".

PoD

Speaking of the MSM, you gotta love how Chris Muir is skewering it in Day by Day

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Not cool. Please read Charles' rules about making statements that mention violence. See the top of this page.

Perhaps he was proposing a spirited game of Cribbage.

re: #51 apachegunner

well hell Walter, whats a hellfire up the ass sound like anyway?

Justice

re: #54 Ward Cleaver

At least the IDF knows how to deal with terrorists.

Well they used to. They used to?

re: #5 buzzsawmonkey

Keystone Cops.

Don't you think sometimes individual law enforcement people go over the lines of their limits to stop murdering scum from murdering more. We don't like it and unfortunately the scum walks (i.e., walked) free. But they stop the immediate murdering.

re: #47 IlyaUnion

I wonder what cabinet level position he will receive? Or maybe he will take the ambassador route, I bet he'd get along great with the folks in Gaza. Perhaps the new embassy in Tehran?

I'm thinking Dept. of Ed..

And he counted on the media not to investigate him.

This to me is the real story. How is it that all of Obama's associations were M.I.A before the election, and even Ayers himself said he barely knew Obama....but now that he is President (elect) and we are stuck with him the media find Ayers, and now thinks he is a worthy story?

Media complicity is the answer.

re: #18 Tigger2005

From what I heard in the (Extremely minimal) coverage of this aborted prosecution, without the wiretap evidence and all that followed from it, there was no case. When the judge threw out the wiretap evidence, he destroyed the prosecution's case.

At any rate, we all apparently are allowed unlimited do-overs now in the New Era. Whatever I've said and done in the past, I now only need to say that I didn't say and do those things, and they become non-events. Cool.

Bill and Bernardine - Paglia Article

...Hence my concern about Ayers has been very slow in developing. The mainstream media should have fully explored the subject early this year and not allowed it to simmer and boil until it flared up ferociously in the last month of the campaign. Obama may not in recent years have been "pallin' around" with Ayers, in Sarah Palin's memorable line, but his past connections with Ayers do seem to have been more frequent and substantive than he has claimed...

...Given that Obama had served on a Chicago board with Ayers and approved funding of a leftist educational project sponsored by Ayers, one might think that the unrepentant Ayers-Dohrn couple might be of some interest to the national media. But no, reporters have been too busy playing mini-badminton with every random spitball about Sarah Palin, who has been subjected to an atrocious and at times delusional level of defamation merely because she has the temerity to hold pro-life views.

Something tells me that even had this clown talked his heart out before the election, the One would still have been anointed.

Obama Be Thy Name...

I'll tell you what though, these 4 years will be very instructive. A lot of probably unrepeatable crap will be happening, and I will be taking notes. People got what they wanted, what they deserved. Let's see if they are so emotionally invested in Obama as to ever admit to themselves that they bombed once his true colors start showing.

re: #51 apachegunner

well hell Walter, whats a hellfire up the ass sound like anyway?

Sexy.

re: #69 MandyManners

I'm thinking Dept. of Ed..

The other end of Mr. Ed maybe.

re: #45 HDrepub

She's a Leftist. They get a pass on little things like first degree murder and the like. Ask Gary Condit or Ted Kennedy, they'll tell you.

I thought I'd never see the day when a terrorist could become a role model. Disgusting.

re: #26 logboy

Charles, I disagree with your statement that this would have "become a major issue in the campaign." We could have had photos of Ayers and Obama performing certain "favors" on one another and MSM still would have turned a blind eye. The Messiah can do no wrong.

It's not a "blind eye"! They actually think it is COOL!

re: #62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's only an anarchist/socialist on paper. He'll take all the money he can get.

I agree. It's all about the power.
These fascists will use any platform to get the power they crave.

It's not a biased media anymore. It's a partisan media. They have taken a side. They have an interest. They have an agenda.

re: #21 apachegunner

why does his wife bernadette keep such a low profile?

She's a tad too outspoken about Charlie Manson's finer qualities.

Bill Ayers is nothing but an over-achieving left wing murderer and terrorist shitbird. And those are his good points.

re: #59 Ringo the Gringo

I guessing that she is not as articulate as Bill Ayers. And probably not as intelligent either.

Didn't she praise the Manson Family after the Tate murders?

I think she laughed and cracked a joke about it.

re: #47 IlyaUnion

I wonder what cabinet level position he will receive? Or maybe he will take the ambassador route, I bet he'd get along great with the folks in Gaza. Perhaps the new embassy in Tehran?

He has a position. An extremely powerful one. Mentor to the President.

re: #69 MandyManners

I'm thinking Dept. of Ed Indoctrination..

Might as well fit it to Ayer's policies and approach. After all, the Defense Department will be renamed the Department of Peace. Soon to be followed by the State Department to be renamed the Oppressed Nation's Advocacy Group.....

re: #69 MandyManners

I'm thinking Dept. of Ed..

I'm thinking more along the lines of the Dept. of Re-Ed.

re: #24 jemima

To paraphrase something a rabbi said "You can learn a lot from a criminal terrorist group. They never give up."

re: #13 jaunte

ABC describes him as a 'respected' professor. They are hiding some of the ballots on that issue.

Sadly, among professors of education the guy really is highly respected.

he was elected VP of a large and influential education group recently.

re: #71 Jack Reacher

That only works for Leftists. Trust me on that.

From Wiki:

"Dohrn was criticized for a comment she made about the Charles Manson led Tate-LaBianca murders in a speech during the December 1969 "War Council" meeting organized by the Weathermen and attended by about 400 people in Flint, Michigan: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!"

Bill Ayers is America's Che', I imagine we will see his likeness on t-shirts soon.

re: #70 WrathofG-d

This to me is the real story. How is it that all of Obama's associations were M.I.A before the election, and even Ayers himself said he barely knew Obama....but now that he is President (elect) and we are stuck with him the media find Ayers, and now thinks he is a worthy story?

Media complicity is the answer.

Media LEADERSHIP, not media complicity.

Whatever you think of Ayers, he played this one smart. He stayed out of the news until Obama was safely elected, because he knew if he expressed his real opinions about radicalizing students, reparations, abolishing prisons, etc., his relationship with Obama would—rightfully—become a major issue in the campaign. And he counted on the media not to investigate him.

The latter had more to do with this outcome than the former. If the media was half as interested in investigating Ayers as they were in investigating Palin's pregnancies, they might have asked the uncomfortable questions.

Even now, they're giving puff piece interviews that don't get to the heart of this terrorist's worldview and relationship with Obama. Nothing about what Ayers says takes away his goals and intentions as a leader of the Weather Underground terror group, and he's wistfully unrepentant about not being able to do more carnage to further his goals.

re: #77 Ward Cleaver

I thought I'd never see the day when a terrorist could become a role model. Disgusting.

Che?

re: #83 MandyManners

I think she laughed and cracked a joke about it.

She got a kick out of the fact that they stuck a fork (a barbecue fork, IIRC) in the the belly of the grocer LoBianco (this was a separate murder of LoBianco and wife, not the Tate murders).

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

kinky.

re: #77 Ward Cleaver

I thought I'd never see the day when a terrorist could become a role model. Disgusting.

What's new. We've seen a pedophile become a role model (Michael Jackson), we've seen a anti-semite become a role model (Farrakhan and Wright), we've seen an alcoholic become a role model (Kennedy) and a murderer become a role model (Kennedy again)...

My list could go on.

re: #73 medaura18586

Something tells me that even had this clown talked his heart out before the election, the One would still have been anointed.

Obama Be Thy Name... [Link: www.youtube.com...]

I'll tell you what though, these 4 years will be very instructive. A lot of probably unrepeatable crap will be happening, and I will be taking notes. People got what they wanted, what they deserved. Let's see if they are so emotionally invested in Obama as to ever admit to themselves that they bombed once his true colors start showing.

His true colors is what they've wanted since the 60s.

Ayers's rich daddy, Tom, is an important part of the story as well. He's the liberal who paid for the legal team that got Billy off on a technicality, and then funded Bill's second career and Obama's ascendancy.

Diamond thinks that Ayers was grooming Obama to run for mayor of Chicago. The father and son got very, very lucky.

re: #95 Ward Cleaver

She got a kick out of the fact that they stuck a fork (a barbecue fork, IIRC) in the the belly of the grocer LoBianco (this was a separate murder of LoBianco and wife, not the Tate murders).

Sorry, LaBianca, not LoBianco.

re: #88 funky chicken

Sadly, among professors of education the guy really is highly respected.

he was elected VP of a large and influential education group recently.

They share the same world view as Ayers......

re: #70 WrathofG-d

This to me is the real story. How is it that all of Obama's associations were M.I.A before the election, and even Ayers himself said he barely knew Obama....but now that he is President (elect) and we are stuck with him the media find Ayers, and now thinks he is a worthy story?

Media complicity is the answer.

We need to get organized and do something about the media bias; I don't want right-wing news, I just want the truth for a change. Someone linked to this site last night, and I think it has potential:

[Link: 50millionamericans.org...]

re: #28 Perplexed

Pretty much. You've got to be tried, found innocent (i.e. OJ Simpson on double murder charges) then you walk never to be tried for that crime again. Only thing might be statute of limitations and political muscle.

Believe Ayers was responsible for at least one death, directly. Toss in the ones that dissesembled themselves, since he actions were tired to theirs, could be some charges there, as well.

There is no Statute of Limitations on murder.

Same goes for the beloved Bernardine Dohrn. Investigative screw ups, let her free, as well.

Bill Ayers is a trust fund Trotskyite, and a MasterCard Marxist. A spoiled rich boy who got his way, and still does. I wonder how much of daddy's money help him go free as bird, guilty as hell.

re: #91 BakaRanger

Bill Ayers is America's Che', I imagine we will see his likeness on t-shirts soon.

Nah, Che looked like a rock star in a beret. Ayers looks like an accountant. How many t-shirts have you seen with accountants on 'em?

(Apologies to accountants.)

re: #3 Honorary Yooper

Why is this man not behind bars, rotting away for his crimes?

... and during the campaign, I kept thinking "association with Obama aside, how come no one out there is horrified and/or outraged that this clown is an educator?!?!"

re: #94 Perplexed

Che?

Well, I meant an American terrorist.

re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

kinky.

Why, why, why is it I'm not at all surprised that you have links to farts ready for our use?

He was a hero, fighting injustice, who never intended to hurt anyone.

I heard someone, I think the man was retired capitol police officer but I could be wrong, who said that the bomb at the capitol was in or near a women's bathroom and a woman with her 3 or 4 year old child had just come out of there when it detonated.

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Not cool. Please read Charles' rules about making statements that mention violence. See the top of this page.

Walter, don't quote the bad comment, just reply to it. Makes Stinky's work easier.

re: #83 MandyManners

I think she laughed and cracked a joke about it.

Here's what she said: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!"

re: #70 WrathofG-d

This to me is the real story. How is it that all of Obama's associations were M.I.A before the election, and even Ayers himself said he barely knew Obama....but now that he is President (elect) and we are stuck with him the media find Ayers, and now thinks he is a worthy story?

Media complicity is the answer.

And the willfully-ignorant majority of the electorate will likely neither notice nor care.

That comments from that ABC link on yesterdays Ayers story are indicative of the thought processes vast numbers of this nation's populace parrot on a daily basis. Partisanship at it's finest, variation of topic, apologies for Ayers, "what's wrong with you people, socialism isn't that bad, you must be teenagers." Naturally coupled with the blame America first edit: "Eisenhower and Nixon" being responsible for Vietnam, Nixon's "illegal" Cambodian, Laos bombing opening the door for Pol Pot, etc (where's LBJ, the great escalator, you ask? Oh he was "strongly influenced" by Goldwater to tow the line, as if under the influence of the force, convenient)

Along with a healthy dose of projection too. The market's ripe to become a cult deprogrammer or a psychologist as the two are becoming readily indistinguishable.

re: #93 lawhawk

Kinda like the editorial blow-job that the Press gave that Crip they executed last year. He writes children's books! So what if he murdered a few people. You want an omlett, you have to break some eggs.

re: #99 quickjustice

Ayers's rich daddy, Tom, is an important part of the story as well. He's the liberal who paid for the legal team that got Billy off on a technicality, and then funded Bill's second career and Obama's ascendancy.

Diamond thinks that Ayers was grooming Obama to run for mayor of Chicago. The father and son got very, very lucky.

Do Ayers and Soros socialize?

re: #98 Sunlight

His true colors is what they've wanted since the 60s.

Maybe 15% of the electorate... I don't think the majority of voters knew quite wtf they were doing or getting into though, they just voted like a flock of sheep.

re: #106 subsailor68

Nah, Che looked like a rock star in a beret. Ayers looks like an accountant. How many t-shirts have you seen with accountants on 'em?

(Apologies to accountants.)

LOL....Maybe radical business majors will wear them.

re: #111 Honorary Yooper

Walter, don't quote the bad comment, just reply to it. Makes Stinky's work easier.

I know. I already mentioned it above and told Charles to delete if necessary. Sorry again.

re: #104 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. Law enforcement sometimes makes mistakes (e.g., builds a case against the wrong man); sometimes oversteps (think of Nifong's behavior in the Duke lacrosse case); but most of the time is done conscientiously.

I know from my own connections to law enforcement that police and prosecutors often let people go simply because they don't have the evidence necessary to make the case, even when they know full well the person is guilty not only of a particular crime, but many others. Proof is not easy.

Add to that that it is possible to flout one of the rules of conduct in all good faith--either because of the exigencies of the moment, or out of honest error--and that minor slip can, in the hands of the proper counsel, be sufficient to get someone horribly guilty off the hook.

I meant your para 3.

re: #118 BakaRanger

LOL....Maybe radical business majors will wear them.

Now that's funny!

re: #105 HDrepub

Bill Ayers is a trust fund Trotskyite, and a MasterCard Marxist. A spoiled rich boy who got his way, and still does. I wonder how much of daddy's money help him go free as bird, guilty as hell.

I've never heard those monikers before. I like them.

re: #109 Walter L. Newton

Well, speaking of hellfire and asses and all.

re: #84 Son of the Black Dog

He has a position. An extremely powerful one. Mentor to the President.

yep, no need to give him an actual cabinet position. that would make it too obvious who is the actual brain behind Obama. There's no question Ayers is an extremely bright person....

Funny.....I didn't see this either.....

Saudi Arabia: We Must Support Obama's Bid for Change Despite His "Extremist Positions"

An editorial in the government Saudi daily Al-Watan stated that good relations must be maintained between Saudi Arabia and the U.S., despite the "extremist positions" that Obama is known to hold:

"In their joy over the victory of Obama – whom the Arab media has begun to call 'Abu Hussein' or 'Ibn Hussein' – some Arabs have forgotten his positions vis-à-vis the Arabs and Israel, which have always been extremist... Still, a smart enemy is better than a stupid friend, and Obama is undoubtedly much smarter than the Republican candidates. This makes it possible for the Arabs to talk to him and engage him in dialogue...

"Despite their good relations with some American statesmen, Saudi officials do not know much about Obama. However, we had the same experience when the American South produced an unknown political star named Bill Clinton. It was not long before the Saudi diplomacy – represented by then-Saudi Ambassador to Washington Prince Bandar bin Sultan – established strong ties with the new [president].

"The same could happen with Obama, because Saudi Arabia is an influential [country], and the election campaign is over. In their upcoming visit [to the U.S.] this week, Saudi Arabia's king and foreign minister may meet with Obama, in order to establish a working relationship for the benefit of the two countries and of the Arab and Muslim world.

"Therefore, at this stage, it is important that we support Obama's bid for change and examine the new ideas that he is proposing."(8)

and disassembled, too. Jesus H.

re: #122 capitalist piglet

I've never heard those monikers before. I like them.

My favorite is "Lear Jet Liberal".

And I think this is more evidence on how the media's covering up Obama's trail of questionable associations was such a big part of his victory in the election. It's really scary to realize this scumbag is a mentor to the man who will soon be President of The United States, along with the un-Reverend Wright, his Commie parents and all those other anti-American lowlifes.

Che had a certain kind of sex appeal that Bill Ayers does not have.

Bill Ayers is basically a twit....a Marxist twit.

He was a hero, fighting injustice, who never intended to hurt anyone.

Except maybe at Fort Dix.

re: #112 Ringo the Gringo

Here's what she said: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!"

She is a monster. She could easily have been one of the Manson punks.

re: #116 MandyManners

Do Ayers and Soros socialize?

Excellent question MandyManners... To the research team...

re: #106 subsailor68

Nah, Che looked like a rock star in a beret. Ayers looks like an accountant.

(Apologies to accountants.)

I thought he looked like an old lady
/must be the earrings

re: #112 Ringo the Gringo

Here's what she said: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!"

These are evil people.

re: #117 medaura18586

Maybe 15% of the electorate... I don't think the majority of voters knew quite wtf they were doing or getting into though, they just voted like a flock of sheep.

And who's partly to blame for their ignorance about Obama? The MSM of course, and the amazing things Donk voters will overlook to cast a vote for their favorite party.

One of these days...I gonna' learn the different letters, on this here keyboard.

re: #99 quickjustice

Ayers's rich daddy, Tom, is an important part of the story as well. He's the liberal who paid for the legal team that got Billy off on a technicality, and then funded Bill's second career and Obama's ascendancy.

Diamond thinks that Ayers was grooming Obama to run for mayor of Chicago. The father and son got very, very lucky.

Exactly. People often forget about Tom Ayres when they talk about Bill Ayres. Tom was a very important CEO in the state, being CEO of Commonwealth Edison (ComEd). As it is, another CEO of ComEd supported Obama's run for the Presidency, and was a major bundler form him: Frank Clark. And Obama was schooled in the Illinois Senate by a man who never saw a ComEd rate increase he didn't like: Emil "Evil" Jones (D-ComEd).

There's a lot of twisted history here with Chicago's electric utility and the Ayerses and their associates.

In support of Ayers.

It seems that the character assassination and slander of Bill Ayers and other people who have known Obama is not about to let up. While an important concern is the dishonesty of this campaign and the slanderous McCarthyism they are using to attack Obama, we also feel an obligation to support our friend and colleague Bill Ayers. Many, many educators have reached out, asking what they could do, seeking a way to weigh in against fear and intimidation. Many of us have been talking and we agree that this one gesture, a joint statement signed by hundreds of hard-working educators, would be a great first step. Such a statement may be distributed through press releases or ads in the future.

SNIP

The current characterizations of Professor Ayers---“unrepentant terrorist,” “lunatic leftist”---are unrecognizable to those who know or work with him. It’s true that Professor Ayers participated passionately in the civil rights and antiwar movements of the 1960s, as did hundreds of thousands of Americans. His participation in political activity 40 years ago is history; what is most relevant now is his continued engagement in progressive causes, and his exemplary contribution---including publishing 16 books--- to the field of education.

SNIP

The arrogance of Ayers/0bama knows no bounds.

He thinks he was getting "smeared" before the election. Just hold on Mr. Ayers, the fun fun truthing is just beginning.

Earlier this week, I heard a GOP publicist make another important point. Ayers's radical involvement with Obama was somewhere between ten and twenty-five years ago. Wright's involvement with Obama was very recent, and Wright's hatred of America is palpable.

McCain should have used the Wright connection, not the Ayers connection. Trying to connect Obama with Ayers is much tougher, and McCain failed to make the sale. (I'm not claiming that this would have been decisive, but it's yet another example of a McCain campaign disaster.)

re: #82 gymnast

Bill Ayers is nothing but an over-achieving left wing murderer and terrorist shitbird. And those are his good points.

I could be an over-achiever if I'd started life with a $50 million inheritance.

re: #139 MandyManners
I like that. "Hundreds of Thousands" participated in.........BS

re: #139 MandyManners

Scroll down to take a look at those hundreds of assholes who support this sorry sack of puke.

re: #139 MandyManners

I wonder if they consider Eric Rudolf to be a "passionate pro-lifer"? I somehow doubt that they do. By their propaganda, they've chosen a side.

Thank god the donors at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln got this POS disinvited. The bastard disgusts me to no end and as I am concerned, he can FOAD!

re: #99 quickjustice

Tom Ayers was a good friend of the head of the law firm, Sidley & Austin, where Obama worked as a summer associate in 1989. That's where he met Michelle. Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn worked there from 1884 to 1988.

re: #139 MandyManners

Ahh, "participated passionately". Well, no problem then.

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re: #144 apachegunner

I like that. "Hundreds of Thousands" participated in.........BS

Marching on campuses and blowing shit up are not the same thing.

re: #88 funky chicken

Sadly, among professors of education the guy really is highly respected.

he was elected VP of a large and influential education group recently.

Only because of terrorist chic.

re: #93 lawhawk

The latter had more to do with this outcome than the former. If the media was half as interested in investigating Ayers as they were in investigating Palin's pregnancies, they might have asked the uncomfortable questions.

Even now, they're giving puff piece interviews that don't get to the heart of this terrorist's worldview and relationship with Obama. Nothing about what Ayers says takes away his goals and intentions as a leader of the Weather Underground terror group, and he's wistfully unrepentant about not being able to do more carnage to further his goals.

For me it's the fact that Ayers and Obama spent over a hundred million dollars making sure that poor kids in Chicago remained unemployable and convinced that it's the fault of the US of KKKA. They refused to fund projects that actually could have taught kids the math and science skills that could have helped them become productive members of society....

But they "care deeply" about "the children"

BS

he shows up slovenly, to show his disdain for the establishment, yet in a corduroy coat to look "professorial" as he spews the same radical 60's shit.
this is what so many of these repugnant old hippies have become.
now terrorists in academia. he is reduced to indoctrinating children.
see his dark eyes, bitter and fueled w/ rage, as much as ever.
and he has learned nothing in his pursuit of knowledge.
what a miserable human being.

re: #136 HDrepub

And who's partly to blame for their ignorance about Obama? The MSM of course, and the amazing things Donk voters will overlook to cast a vote for their favorite party.

Whose fault is it? To exhaust all those to be blamed we would need to cite them like at a movie's ending credits. The MSM, sure... But they were merely telling people what they wanted to hear already.

The major blame remains with the Right, as far as I'm concerned. Republicans blew it.

re: #148 Kenneth

Tom Ayers was a good friend of the head of the law firm, Sidley & Austin, where Obama worked as a summer associate in 1989. That's where he met Michelle. Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn worked there from 1884 to 1988.

Damn!

Amy Goodman of "Pacifica" is glossing over the Weather Underground today, a relative reports.

The moral compass of our country is weak.

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Fox Online.

Any 'celebrities' inside?

re: #8 buzzsawmonkey

Bill Ayers = Charles Manson, with better funding.

Not quite. Ayers is a monster, but he is not nearly self-centered as Manson and he focuses better on his goals. As a threat, that makes him worse.

From ABC News

But he was unapologetic about his militant actions during the Vietnam War.

"What you call the violent past, that was a time when thousands of people were being murdered every month by our own government... We were on the right side," he told "GMA."

Interesting how he was challenged about the most heinous bombings and attempts took place after the US withdrew its military forces from Vietnam - and that the bloody Nyack NY bank robbery (to gain funds for additional bombings) took place in 1975.

He spouts revisionist history to justify his actions- and there are no challenges to the obvious fallacies presented.

He, and the WU, were not solely anti-war protesters - they are a hard core marxist organization that wanted the murderous marxists of North Vietnam to win and wanted to remake the US into a Stalinist marxist utopia....he had no issue with the NVA / Khmer Rouge killing 4 million in SE Asia as he was quite willing to exterminate 25 million Americans simply because they were capitalists.

This guy is evil personified...and entirely unrepetent about the evil he supports and was willing to commit. The fact that the media is in the tank for him, and the One, demonstrates their moral and intellectual bankruptcy.

re: #139 MandyManners

So what they seem to be saying is that there is moral equivalence between advocating a violent overthrow of the government, domestic terrorism, and marching around in the street wearing hip huggers and flashing a peace sign.

Okey dokey.

re: #145 MandyManners

At least one of those names is faked: Paul Orgeron, Poe Elementary.

("The Poe Elementary School Attack occurred on September 15, 1959, when a man named Paul Orgeron detonated a bomb during recess at Poe Elementary School, killing himself, a teacher (Jennie Katharine Kolter), a custodian (James Arlie Montgomery, for which Montgomery Elementary was named , and three 7-year old boys (Billy Hawes, Jr., John Fitch, Jr., and Dusty Paul, Orgeron's son). Ruth Doty, the principal, was partially deafened in one ear by the blast. Two then-new schools were later named after the victims (one after Kolter and one after Montgomery)."
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

If you ever wonder what happened to this great country, look no further than this asshole. He is the kind of smug, self-important pseudo-intellectuals who are teaching American kids in government schools and in universities. His generation is singularly responsible for the decline of our republic. There is nothing more infuriating than someone who is surrounded by the fruits of this nation trying to destroy it. And BO will have 4 years to enact this type of radical agenda through executive orders and other stealth methods while putting a smiley face to the ignorant morons who voted for him. I wish I was cynical enough to enjoy watching the final failure of these radical idiots, but it will be too damaging to laugh about. People think I overstate the danger we are in but it's real and it's imminent. He's going to get probably 3 SCOTUS nominees and untold numbers of federal judges installed with the sycophants in the Congress giving each one the red carpet treatment. And the willful ignorance about this radical is just so stunning, I can't really believe it sometimes.

re: #103 Elcid

Ayers's first girlfriend died in the Greenwich Village Town House in NYC that blew up as she and some other Weather Underground terrorists were attempting to build a bomb. The FBI reported that Dohrn planted the bomb that killed a San Francisco cop, and that Ayers knew all about it. Too bad the FBI screwed up the investigation, and blew the case.

This guy is bad. He should be in maximum security, or dead at the hands of the executioner after conviction.

re: #161 Athos

The Brinks heist wasn't in 1975, but 1981!

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

What a coincidence that while Obama was studying law at Harvard he applied for a summer job in Chicago, a city where he had no friends, family or contacts, and then somehow managed to land a job at a top law firm where Bill Ayers' wife worked and his daddy was a pal of the boss. Go figure!

re: #3 Honorary Yooper

Why is this man not behind bars, rotting away for his crimes?

Hell, considering how all this stuff is now bubbling to the surface. Leave it to Obama to give Ayers the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

re: #166 lawhawk

Oops, misread your post Athos - you did note that it was after the 1975 fall of Saigon (and after the US withdrew from S. Vietnam in 1973).

re: #148 Kenneth

Good catch.

re: #167 Roggie

Under Charles' rules, you may want to self-delete that post.

re: #157 Opilio

okay, 1984 to 1988

typo shmypo!

if there is any karma coming down the pike for these sh1tbirds I hope it is painful.

re: #148 Kenneth

Tom Ayers was a good friend of the head of the law firm, Sidley & Austin, where Obama worked as a summer associate in 1989. That's where he met Michelle. Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn worked there from 1884 to 1988.

From 1884, huh? For an old hag, she's pretty well preserved. ; )

Excellent report on the greenwich village townhouse explosion.

OT:

So I heard that Hillary is in the running for Sec of State. (and I actually am acceptable to that idea. She actually might be more right than Rice)

re: #161 Athos

In what way does that differentiate Ayers from the run-of-the-mill Democrat? He was just willing to get his hands dirty doing the work they all wanted to see happen.

re: #139 MandyManners

Passionate? Oh, OK. Ayers was passionate, which accounts for him going a lit-tle over the top sometimes.

re: #148 Kenneth

Tom Ayers was a good friend of the head of the law firm, Sidley & Austin, where Obama worked as a summer associate in 1989. That's where he met Michelle. Ayers' wife Bernadine Dohrn worked there from 1884 to 1988.

There are still far too many questions about Obama in his Columbia days - where in his own memoirs he admitted seeking out the marxists and radicals. Ayers was there at the same time. I would not be surprised if it eventually comes out that Ayers and Obama knew each other since Columbia and were attracted by their common radical interests.

And I thought this country hit a new low when Billy Jeff was elected.....

re: #8 buzzsawmonkey
Bill Ayers = Charles Manson, with better funding.

And without an insanity defense.

Ayers escaped nothing. He is currently enjoying the earthly perks of people who are working for the other side.

careful, we are being watched here ya know? re: #167 Roggie

re: #167 Roggie

Hey, Roggie, it looks like your comment is fixin' to be deleted. Charles does not approve of remarks that ask for violence.

Read the rules on top of the page. Asshole.

Troll folks, see his stats.

re: #166 lawhawk

The Brinks heist wasn't in 1975, but 1981!

Thanks, I stand corrected. That makes the case even stronger that his claims about WU being only an anti-war group BS.

re: #176 Ojoe

From the link:

In the wreckage, the police found blasting caps, pipe bombs, 60 sticks of dynamite, and an antitank shell. It soon became clear that this had been a bomb factory- someone had accidentally detonated a device they were working on. It was later revealed that their target was an officer's dance at Fort Dix, N.J.

My bolds.

re: #138 Honorary Yooper

Exactly. People often forget about Tom Ayres when they talk about Bill Ayres. Tom was a very important CEO in the state, being CEO of Commonwealth Edison (ComEd). As it is, another CEO of ComEd supported Obama's run for the Presidency, and was a major bundler form him: Frank Clark. And Obama was schooled in the Illinois Senate by a man who never saw a ComEd rate increase he didn't like: Emil "Evil" Jones (D-ComEd).

There's a lot of twisted history here with Chicago's electric utility and the Ayerses and their associates.

And who can forget Obama's promise to make utility bills skyrocket?

re: #172 subsailor68

Under Charles' rules, you may want to self-delete that post.

Is that possible? How do you do that?

re: #142 quickjustice

Religion seems to give these charmers a free pass.

re: #77 Ward Cleaver

I thought I'd never see the day when a terrorist could become a role model. Disgusting.

it is so disturbing. it is one reason we lost the election.
a failure of public outrage at a criminal like ayers.
a terrorist, who bombed america repeatedly.
too many people who can't see how wrong that is.

There is a question about this POS that has bothered me.

Did the case against Comrade Ayers go to trial? Was a verdict ever given, or were the charges dismissed? Does the 'double jeopardy' clause apply if a full trial never occurred?

If not, would Fifth Amendment rights protect this POS and his confessions?

re: #177 WrathofG-d

OT:

So I heard that Hillary is in the running for Sec of State. (and I actually am acceptable to that idea. She actually might be more right than Rice)

I can't imagine Hillary would take that job - it's not a power position. A lapdog like J F-in Kerry would be perfect for it...perfectly stupid and ridiculous, that is.

re: #175 capitalist piglet

Dohrn was a disbarred lawyer. Interesting how Sidney & Austin gave her shelter. Ayers is rich and powerful in Chicago.

re: #190 nyc redneck

People didn't see why Bill Clinton broke the law either...

re: #156 medaura18586

Whose fault is it? To exhaust all those to be blamed we would need to cite them like at a movie's ending credits. The MSM, sure... But they were merely telling people what they wanted to hear already.

The major blame remains with the Right, as far as I'm concerned. Republicans blew it.

I agree with you, McCain failed to live up to his promise to fight for America by being too nice to Obama, even defending him at times. McCain can now go back to the Senate and kiss some more Donk butt. Better yet let him go back to Arizona and stay there.

if there is any karma coming down the pike for these sh1tbirds I hope it is painful.

re: #143 Son of the Black Dog

I could be an over-achiever if I'd started life with a $50 million inheritance.

Ayers and Bin Laden could have achieved great things with all that inherited wealth.

re: #188 capitalist piglet

Is that possible? How do you do that?

Hmmm...good point. I should look through the tools area. (Kinda new.) Maybe Charles is the only one who can delete. But, if not, it might be a good idea. I'll check.

This "blogospheric witch hunt" will further make him a "martyr" to the Leftist cause.

re: #91 BakaRanger

Bill Ayers is America's Che', I imagine we will see his likeness on t-shirts soon.

re: #171 quickjustice

oh, there's more...

When Obama was in New York studying at Columbia, 1981 to 1983, Ayers was living in the same neighborhood and studying education at a college around the corner from Columbia.

re: #167 Roggie

That's not the answer. And that type of violence doesn't really fly here...

If this lying Domestic Terrorist steps one foot into the White House, there should be crys of outrage from every patriotic American.
As it is, Ayers has exposed O-Liar to be the lying liar the I've always believed O-Liar to be.

Power to the Correct People!
(They don't have Domestic Terrorists as family friends or associates.)

re: #196 rumcrook

Dante reports that it is painful.

re: #177 WrathofG-d

What, you don't think she'll slip Arafat's old lady the tounge this time when she kisses her? I can't really see Hillary doing any better than Rice. Until they gut and clean the State Department, it is hard to see anyone doing significantly better.

speaks volumes about our president-elect that his friends and advisors are so repulsive that they had to stay down low in the weeds until the election passed. now they're all crawling out of their holes, Ayers, Wright, farrakhan, etc.

re: #186 Ojoe

From the link:

In the wreckage, the police found blasting caps, pipe bombs, 60 sticks of dynamite, and an antitank shell. It soon became clear that this had been a bomb factory- someone had accidentally detonated a device they were working on. It was later revealed that their target was an officer's dance at Fort Dix, N.J.

My bolds.

Work accident!

re: #192 tedzilla99

You could be right, but it is a step up for her. (not bad for someone with no actual skills other than being Bill's wife). The odd thing is that I actually think she'd be pretty good at it.

if there is any karma coming down the pike for these sh1tbirds I hope it is painful.

re: #178 Iron Fist

Well, I will not go so far as to paint all democrats with that brush that they preferred a marxist country complete with re-education camps at that time. But the marxists of those days, the students and some professors, has clearly grown into the far larger, and disturbingly well accepted by the MSM, hard core left that has bought and controls today's Democrat Party.

re: #198 subsailor68

Hmmm...good point. I should look through the tools area. (Kinda new.) Maybe Charles is the only one who can delete. But, if not, it might be a good idea. I'll check.

I think he is. I'd probably delete half of what I babble about, if I thought there was a way to do it. ; )

re: #164 tedzilla99

If you ever wonder what happened to this great country, look no further than this asshole. He is the kind of smug, self-important pseudo-intellectuals who are teaching American kids in government schools and in universities. His generation is singularly responsible for the decline of our republic. There is nothing more infuriating than someone who is surrounded by the fruits of this nation trying to destroy it. And BO will have 4 years to enact this type of radical agenda through executive orders and other stealth methods while putting a smiley face to the ignorant morons who voted for him. I wish I was cynical enough to enjoy watching the final failure of these radical idiots, but it will be too damaging to laugh about. People think I overstate the danger we are in but it's real and it's imminent. He's going to get probably 3 SCOTUS nominees and untold numbers of federal judges installed with the sycophants in the Congress giving each one the red carpet treatment. And the willful ignorance about this radical is just so stunning, I can't really believe it sometimes.

The baby boomers have been a disaster for our country. The few who served in Vietnam seem to be the only decent ones...and you can find indecent examples in that bunch too (John F'n Querrie comes immediately to mind.)

re: #197 debutaunt

Ayers and Bin Laden could have achieved great things with all that inherited wealth.

I assume Ayers and Dohrn are living in a simple flat on the South Side and donating millions to charity.

re: #145 MandyManners

Scroll down to take a look at those hundreds of assholes who support this sorry sack of puke.

Better still, do a search on your favorite college or university. See who you find.

Can we take this interview and jam it down Shep Smith's throat? Had this been shown before 11/4, had this man really been investigated and BHO's prevarications been exposed, there is no telling what difference would have been made. Instead, it's "preposterous" according to Smith that the media was in the "tank" for BHO.

re: #172 subsailor68

Under Charles' rules, you may want to self-delete that post.

Too late. Stinky deleted him.

re: #186 Ojoe

Ayers taught the others how to make bombs. The fact they screwed up and killed themselves must weigh heavily on his conscience.

Well, it would if he had one.

Truth is beautiful; but then, so are lies.
Liberals and the Media Love Lies! These dupes will not only be tyrants, they will be tyrants who fiddle while the Republic burns. What wonderful delusions can be spun from self-serving lies!

Democrats and the media have chosen dishonor, manipulation and they are part of fulfilling the Democratic constituency and leadership in their now naked lust for power. If ever they are able to shut down dissent and freedom of speech on the internet, radio, cable television and alternative print media--then very soon thugs will accost us by day at work, at church, at school, and soon thereafter they will come in the night.

The news has instituted a brownout of the heinous trespass and assault this week in Lansing, Michigan, gay invasion of a Mormon Church service. They shouted, ran to the altar, scrawled graffiti, shouted obscenities. Yet, this is not hate crime, this is aggressive nonviolent dissent! Bill Ayers wrote the book on this--remember? We need to add a special title to Bill Ayer's persona, by the way: Cop Killer.

The clean-cut, talented, and very likeable Anderson Cooper on CNN recently had a gay leader and a Mormon leader on his program. Cooper silenced the Mormon by firmly establishing Minitru's alternative reality, "these are isolated incidents," Cooper somewhat anxiously minimized the increasing fascism of leftists as seen in the actions of these gay liberation brownshirts.

The One, the Healer of Wounds, the Uniter is always silent when egregious wrongs are done, from persecution of private citizens by Obamite government apparatchiks, to assaults against religions that dare to exercise their rights to free speech and civic dissent and activism. Not even to defend the 70% of African-Americans who voted to preserve the traditional legal understanding of marriage by voting for Proposition 8.

Silence Implies Consent, President-Elect Obama. You approve of and condone these assaults but of course, you are far too canny to say so. No need, Mr. Obama, as your silence speaks volumes.

re: #205 Iron Fist

What, you don't think she'll slip Arafat's old lady the tounge this time when she kisses her? I can't really see Hillary doing any better than Rice. Until they gut and clean the State Department, it is hard to see anyone doing significantly better.

The real difference is, under the upcoming Administration, the only desire to gut and clean out Foggy Bottom will come towards removing the few remaining conservative professionals there.

The interviewer brought up "Prairie Fire" just at the end, and didn't follow up on it. Such a shame. Someone needs to take Ayers,and the MSM, to task for trying to portray him as some anti-war peace-loving hippie.

re: #211 capitalist piglet

I think he is. I'd probably delete half of what I babble about, if I thought there was a way to do it. ; )

LOL! You and me both.

re: #205 Iron Fist

What, you don't think she'll slip Arafat's old lady the tounge this time when she kisses her? I can't really see Hillary doing any better than Rice. Until they gut and clean the State Department, it is hard to see anyone doing significantly better.

Always the man of my sentiments Fist. Bush should have purged the State Department and the intelligence community as well. Valerie Plame is the poster child for purging the CIA.

re: #177 WrathofG-d
Hi Wrath! I think a MUCH better choice would be Sen.
Jim Webb (D. Va). Jimmy was in the Reagan cabinet as Sec of Navy and resigned because he couldn't convince the Sec Def or Reagan that the Navy NEEDED Marine amphib/Helo assault carriers. History has vindicated him.
Plus Jimmy is an honestly HIGHLY decorated Vietnam Vet (Annapolis grad, took Marine Corps commission, Navy Cross, Silver Star and some other medals as a Lt in the Marines) and has ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN.
And believes in "Force Projection" big time!

his eyes are black holes.
in a few yrs. he will look even more like soros.

re: #216 Honorary Yooper

Too late. Stinky deleted him.

Cool. Is there a quick way to alert Charles or Stinky when this kind of thing happens?

re: #158 Ojoe

Amy Goodman of "Pacifica" is glossing over the Weather Underground today, a relative reports.

The moral compass of our country is weak.

Why am I not surprised?

re: #203 IslandLibertarian

If this lying Domestic Terrorist steps one foot into the White House, there should be crys of outrage from every patriotic American.
As it is, Ayers has exposed O-Liar to be the lying liar the I've always believed O-Liar to be.

Power to the Correct People!
(They don't have Domestic Terrorists as family friends or associates.)

I can't stand Ayers, but having him affirm what we were saying before the election could be an advantage. 0bama is going to be shadowed by his lie about the relationship to Ayers, now.

This is so manipulated. I'm quite sure he had a lawyer sit down with GMA and work out EXACTLY what they were "allowed" to ask him and what they were not. The guy is not going to set himself up to be attacked, even for a paycheck- why would he? And the so-called "journalist" is just a talking head. I don't know how these people sleep at night, I really don't.

re: #217 Kenneth

Obviously he does not.

These people emit a foul stench, very apparent if you have a strong moral core.

That Obama could associate with him, tells me Obama is not very good at detecting evil.

A bad sign; he will not be able to tell who are enemies are;

I fear for my country during the next 4 years & let us hope it is not 8.

re: #182 Peacekeeper

Ayers escaped nothing. He is currently enjoying the earthly perks of people who are working for the other side.

And when he dies he will receive his due. Good point, PK.

Treacher is killing me on H/A:

Those who can’t bomb, teach. Those who can’t teach, teach Obama.

Jim Treacher on November 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Hey, has anybody made sure that William is his first name? And that he’s a licensed bomber?

Jim Treacher on November 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Ayers is a liar and a scumbag. When Ayers states over and over that there's "nothing more" to his relationship with Obama, I guestion that. Why is Ayers so eager to make sure no one explores further his relationship with Obama. Why? I'm wondering -- What more is Ayers hiding?

re: #156 medaura18586

Whose fault is it? To exhaust all those to be blamed we would need to cite them like at a movie's ending credits. The MSM, sure... But they were merely telling people what they wanted to hear already.

The major blame remains with the Right, as far as I'm concerned. Republicans blew it.

And what fraction of the blame do you apportion to the individual citizens who actually voted for Obama? Isn't the notion of personal responsibility one of the values the delineates Right from Left in the U.S. ?

The "blame" – or more appropriately the responsibility – lies with those that voted for this man. Media complicity is an excuse (i.e. poverty makes people violent.)

In the rules at the top of every comment page:

Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.

re: #228 claire

This is so manipulated. I'm quite sure he had a lawyer sit down with GMA and work out EXACTLY what they were "allowed" to ask him and what they were not. The guy is not going to set himself up to be attacked, even for a paycheck- why would he? And the so-called "journalist" is just a talking head. I don't know how these people sleep at night, I really don't.

Cuomo is just another one of the NY Cuomos - Democrats.

re: #229 Ojoe

who OUR enemies are;

PIMF

re: #229 Ojoe

So true.

This county has jumped the shark

re: #145 MandyManners

I've checked that out before, Mandy. I'm glad my daughter is approaching middle age. If she were looking into colleges, I'd be checking that list daily. Spit on the lot of them.

Time-line of WU actiions, from 1969 until 1975.

re: #238 bombay311

This county has jumped the shark

Or has been dragged under it.

re: #238 bombay311

This county has jumped the shark

What county are you in?
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re: #223 realwest

He sounds wonderful, as you describe him....there is no way the "Administration of Peace" would appoint someone like that as our "Ambassador To the World".

It's tough to stoop much lower than justifying the murder of strangers in the name of a political ideology. That's where the Ayers apologists are. Ayers and Dohrn have blood on their hands. Dohrn is a modern day Lady MacBeth.

"Out damned spot! Out I say!"

re: #80 Sean

It's not a biased media anymore. It's a partisan media. They have taken a side. They have an interest. They have an agenda.

Exactly. That's the most appropriate term. Good one Sean!

re: #225 subsailor68

Cool. Is there a quick way to alert Charles or Stinky when this kind of thing happens?

The little exclamation post to the right of the heart.

re: #234 Charles

Hi Charles. I replied to him asking if he'd self-delete. Now I realize it's not an option - or is it? And, what's the quickest way to let you know if these things come up and you're busy elsewhere?

Thanks.

re: #242 Sunlight

What county are you in?
/

My county has too!
as has my state (ohio)

BBL ... work ...

re: #225 subsailor68

Cool. Is there a quick way to alert Charles or Stinky when this kind of thing happens?

Yes. Use the "!" button on the upper right corner of a comment.

re: #165 quickjustice

Ayers's first girlfriend died in the Greenwich Village Town House in NYC that blew up as she and some other Weather Underground terrorists were attempting to build a bomb. The FBI reported that Dohrn planted the bomb that killed a San Francisco cop, and that Ayers knew all about it. Too bad the FBI screwed up the investigation, and blew the case.

This guy is bad. He should be in maximum security, or dead at the hands of the executioner after conviction.

IIRC, this is the case that is still open.

re: #232 J.S.

I'm wondering -- What more is Ayers hiding?

I'm willing to bet he's hiding a virtual treasure trove that could show a working relationship with 0bama.

re: #246 MandyManners

The little exclamation post to the right of the heart.

Wow! Cool. Thanks very much!

(Oops, got carried away with the little exclamation points.)

re: #220 mrseener

The interviewer brought up "Prairie Fire" just at the end, and didn't follow up on it. Such a shame. Someone needs to take Ayers,and the MSM, to task for trying to portray him as some anti-war peace-loving hippie.

The hippies have taken over. Now they are "The Man".

re: #229 Ojoe

It could also be that Obama wants you to think -- "why Obama just can't tell friends from enemies." When in reality, Obama knows very well who these people are; that they despise America, etc., and Obama Chooses (willfully, calculatingly) to associate and hang out with them. (I do not buy the excues that Obama is just too dumb to realize).

re: #191 RedDish
IIRC - no charges filed - FBI said it didn't want to compromise it's intelligence assets; US Attorney hinted that FBI broke about eleventy million laws regarding illegal wiretapping and the like.
His ever so charming wife, Bernadine Dohrn didn't get away scot free, however, after the Fed Trial failed to find her guilty (apparently you can't be convicted of MURDER solely on the testimony of co-conspirators) she plead guilty to lower State Charges and was fined $1,500 and sentenced to 3 years probation.

There is a parody of operatic proportions here...the ultimate self-hating, white limousine liberal blown up (literally) to cartoonish proportions, only years later to reinvent himself and become pronounced, ta-da, redeemed by the MSM.

Now we have Ayers and Dohrn cranking out little O-bots from the Illinois university system. Somehow, I think that they think that they have won.

re: #238 bombay311

This county has jumped the shark

You're talking about Cook County, right? Do you (or any others in the area) remember the story of a Cook County prosecutor, a woman, jumping to her death from some parking garage? It happened a few years back.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

The only difference between Manson and Ayers, as far as I can see, is the advantages the latter enjoyed.

Right. They are equally evil, IMO. The path Ayers chose as an outlet for his evil legitimizes him to the far left. Being anti-war is different in their minds than having rich people slaughtered.

re: #258 capitalist piglet

I meant country, but I am sure living in cook county is a dream

re: #252 jetprop

I'm willing to bet he's hiding a virtual treasure trove that could show a working relationship with 0bama.

Oh, I'll bet they talked on the phone often, and emailed each other. I imagine they know each other a lot more than they let on.

re: #190 nyc redneck

it is so disturbing. it is one reason we lost the election.
a failure of public outrage at a criminal like ayers.
a terrorist, who bombed america repeatedly.
too many people who can't see how wrong that is.

I attribute the tolerance for Ayers to two causes:
1) profound misunderstanding as to the 'why" of his terrorist activity; he was not protesting the Vietnam War, he and his thugs were attempting to advance the cause of communism by overthrowing the government
2) decades of hagiography around the the "baby boomers" the Sixties generation--the most Moral Generation in History! as those fuckersjerks never tire of saluting themselves.

re: #1 apachegunner

he's a shit

and Cuomo is a "dung beetle".

re: #246 MandyManners

The little exclamation post to the right of the heart.

Thanks..always wondered about that..But was afraid to click to find out!

Which post is he short-listed for, SecDef or Homeland Security?

/sarc, I hope

OT:
My source, anonymous emailer has pointed out a Kos entry:
Kos is reporting that Obama blew off a congratulatory call from Lieberman. The phone was handed to Biden. Meanwhile, he spoke to Lugar three times.

Hope!
Change!
Bipartisanship!

/heh

re: #251 Son of the Black Dog

IIRC, this is the case that is still open.

How I would love to see this pair behind bars. Can you imagine? The guy who calls the cops when a reporter asks him a question...he'd be in the fetal position on the floor within five minutes.