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Saudi Cleric Denies Wanting Mickey Mouse Dead

Video | Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:01:01 am PST

Syrian-born Saudi cleric Muhammad Al-Munajid responds to the evil Christians, Jews, and other infidels who accused him of calling for Mickey Mouse to be killed. (Courtesy of the evil Jewish infidels at MEMRI TV.)

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Interviewer: Arab and Western media accused you of issuing a fatwa about the killing of Mickey Mouse. What is your response to the people of East and West?

[...]

Muhammad Al-Munajid: I never issued a fatwa about the killing of Mickey Mouse. Nobody asked me for a ruling with regard to Mickey Mouse, and I did not say that it is permissible or necessary to kill Mickey Mouse. None of this ever happened. I was talking about the effect of films on people, how they are used for Christian proselytizing, for spreading atheism, for spreading witchcraft, like in the case of Harry Potter, and for arousing urges, which make people dissatisfied with their spouses. One thing led to another, until we got to the issue of cartoons and their effect. I said that some cartoon characters, such as dogs, pigs, and mice – reprehensible animals according to the Shari’a - are glorified in animated films. I said that it is inappropriate to show such things to people, and that a mouse is a “little corrupter,” which should be killed in all cases. I mentioned Mickey Mouse, or that Jerry, by way of example only. Nobody who knows Mickey Mouse is a cartoon character would ever issue a fatwa that it should be killed. It can only be killed in the world of fantasies, movies, and dreams.

Along came the MEMRI website – that is, memri.net – which is a Jewish website run by a Mossad officer, which monitors... Even this show of yours is monitored, and they take excerpts from it.

Interviewer: What site is that?

Muhammad Al-Munajid: Memri.net. M-E-M-R-I.net.

Interviewer: What is that site?

Muhammad Al-Munajid: This is a Jewish website that monitors what the religious preachers say. Once I said that a woman must obey her husband, that if he calls her to bed she must consent, or else the angels will curse her, and that she must come to him even if she is cooking by the stove – all in accordance with the Prophet’s hadiths. The [MEMRI] website took my words and wrote: “Rape of Wives”...

They took an excerpt about Mickey Mouse... Then it was aired by four huge global TV networks – ABC, BBC, Fox News, and CNN. In other words, it was viewed by 350 million people. Some of them put the collapsing WTC building as background to the Mickey Mouse fatwa. They drew a connection between terrorism and what I said.

[...]

Interviewer: How did the networks get the material, through MEMRI?

Muhammad Al-Munajid: The MEMRI website presented many excerpts. Who provided MEMRI with the material? Only God knows, but we know for sure that there is always a connection between the “hypocrites” and their brothers, the infidels from among the People of the Book. It says so in the Koran, and there is no doubt about it.

[...]

My complaint is not directed towards them. After all, they are our enemies, and we understand why they do this. Their behavior is understandable. What I don’t understand is how some Muslims, when asked: “What’s your view on the Mickey Mouse fatwa?” can say: “This is a distortion of Islam. This fatwa must be revoked.” Brother, what is the source for what you say? Go to the individual in question, and ask him: “Did you issue this fatwa”? Nobody asked me. They jumped to conclusions...

Interviewer: This is why we invited you to Iqra TV – so you can tell the truth to Muslims.
Muhammad Al-Munajid: Fine. What was the source of all these commentators? Western networks. Brother, Allah said: “You who believe! If an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it.” All the more so when the source of the report is an infidel. Infidels! Their direct sources are the infidels! They took the report, inflated it, published it, generalized it, and so on. They said that issuing fatwas must be restricted, that this fatwa is damaging to Islam... Brother, did you call the individual in question to ask if he actually issued such a fatwa?

Interviewer: So we ask you: Did you issue such a fatwa?

Muhammad Al-Munajid: As I said before, this never happened.

[...]

They want a form of Islam that will not terrify the enemies, but such a thing is impossible, because Allah said: “The Jews and Christians will not be pleased with you until you follow their religion.” No form of Islam can please the enemies. Don’t even go there, brothers. It’s a done deal. No form of Islam can please the enemies.

And of course, he absolutely did say that Mickey Mouse should be killed “in all cases.”

Our Friends the Saudis: Mickey Mouse Must Die!

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1 Racer X  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:02:51am

Pssst..... Mickey Mouse is not real.

2 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:02:59am

How does one execute a cartoon? A giant eraser?

3 tarkus289  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:03:00am

Good grief

4 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:03:11am

The JOOOOOOOOOOS! We are so smart!

Bwa.
Ha.
Ha.

5 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:03:19am

re: #1 Racer X

Pssst..... Mickey Mouse is not real.

Say what?

6 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:03:22am

I don't care much for Mickey Mouse either, but wanting him dead is just Goofy.

7 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:03:38am

re: #1 Racer X

Whachoooo talking bout, Willis?

8 winston06  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:04:15am

Sounds like Sen. H Obama a few weeks ago

9 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:04:28am

re: #6 Honorary Yooper

I don't care much for Mickey Mouse either, but wanting him dead is just Goofy.

Hey cut Mickey a break. Ya know he has a nice discount hotel for the Military down there?

10 Racer X  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:04:36am

re: #5 Nevergiveup

Say what?

Carp. Sorry.

Charles - can you delete my #1? Pretend it said FIRST! or something.

11 Charles  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:04:46am

re: #6 Honorary Yooper

I don't care much for Mickey Mouse either, but wanting him dead is just Goofy.

Come on. Let's not Minnie-mize the seriousness of this.

12 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:05:17am

So I assume that Ayers and this guy have the same PR Agency.

13 iowavette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:05:27am

Hilarious. How about accusing him of issuing fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel or Yosesite Sam. "I did not issue fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel." Let's see, who else? "I did not issue a fatwa on Scooby Doo."

14 Racer X  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:05:47am

re: #11 Charles

Come on. Let's not Minnie-mize the seriousness of this.

Oh, this thread is going to be a riot.

15 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:06:20am

Kill him? No. Maybe rough him up, though...

16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:06:30am

re: #14 Racer X

Oh, this thread is going to be a riot.

Well, it is a Friday.

17 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:07:00am

re: #10 Racer X

Carp. Sorry.

Charles - can you delete my #1? Pretend it said FIRST! or something.

Mickey Mouse is a Carp? Know I am really disillusioned.

18 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:07:00am

re: #11 Charles

Maybe he just wants to slip him a mickey?

19 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:07:36am
Muhammad Al-Munajid: Fine. What was the source of all these commentators? Western networks. Brother, Allah said: “You who believe! If an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it.” All the more so when the source of the report is an infidel. Infidels! Their direct sources are the infidels! They took the report, inflated it, published it, generalized it, and so on.

"If an infidel quotes me, it's a lie!"

20 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:07:51am

But he probably WOULD issue a fatwa on Bender Rodregeiz, (sp),

And what would Bender say?

All together now ...

21 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:07:57am

re: #17 karmic_inquisitor

Mickey Mouse is a Carp? Know I am really disillusioned.

Don't be so koi - tell us what you really think.

22 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:08:03am

KILL MICKEY MOUSE? NO !
KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN AMERICA ,,,, YES !

Jihad !

23 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:08:06am

re: #13 iowavette

Hilarious. How about accusing him of issuing fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel or Yosesite Sam. "I did not issue fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel." Let's see, who else? "I did not issue a fatwa on Scooby Doo."

Trivia question. What type of birds where Heckel and Jeckel?

24 ilyaunion  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:08:12am

When will Obama sit down with him and discuss how America hurt his feelings?

25 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:08:29am

SemiOT: Danish Muhammad Cartoonist Returns with New Work

One of the controversial Danish cartoonists who sparked riots in the Muslim world in 2005 by drawing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad is set to return soon with new works reflecting on the incident.
.....
The paper writes that one of the drawings in the book features former Danish Foreign Minister Uffe Ellemann-Jensen, who spoke out against the original Muhammad cartoons, kneeling with an inkwell that reads "freedom of expression." A black-bearded man with a bomb in his turban is peering out of the inkwell. Writer Hedegaard told the paper there was "no intention to depict the so-called prophet," but that people could always interpret drawings in different ways. He said he expected no backlash as a result of the publication.

26 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:08:32am

re: #13 iowavette

Hilarious. How about accusing him of issuing fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel or Yosesite Sam. "I did not issue fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel." Let's see, who else? "I did not issue a fatwa on Scooby Doo."

rut row

27 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:08:45am

re: #23 midwestgak

Crows. (Ravens?)

28 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:08:50am

re: #2 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How does one execute a cartoon? A giant eraser?

Didn't you see "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" They got this stuff called "Dip" that'll take care of it!

29 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:09:35am

re: #27 joncelli

Crows. (Ravens?)

Nope

30 winston06  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:02am

re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

So does Michael Moore

31 Jimmah  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:12am

What is it with Islamists and cartoons?

32 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:18am

Hi, welcome to your new job here at Disney World. Here, put on your Mickey suit and get out there among the kids.!

Uh, no thanks.

33 debutaunt  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:21am

re: #29 midwestgak

Nopermore

34 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:27am

re: #28 MrSilverDragon

Didn't you see "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" They got this stuff called "Dip" that'll take care of it!

I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way.

35 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:32am

re: #28 MrSilverDragon

Who was the curvaceous gal in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

36 jcbunga  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:35am

Since he's baring his soul, how does he feel about Foghorn Leghorn?

37 iowavette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:38am

Survey says.....eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Those mean and wonderful birds were MAGPIES!

38 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:38am

re: #23 midwestgak

Magpies.

39 Dave the.....  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:44am

I think my cat is an Islmo-facist. He is dead set on killing the mouse with the little red shorts.

40 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:10:48am

re: #35 Ojoe

Who was the curvaceous gal in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Jessica Rabbit.

41 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:11:07am

re: #37 iowavette

Survey says.....eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh hhhhhhhhhh

Those mean and wonderful birds were MAGPIES!

ding ding ding ding ding

42 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:11:19am

re: #40 Honorary Yooper

She was hot.

43 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:11:21am

re: #35 Ojoe

Who was the curvaceous gal in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Jessica Rabbit, of course. :)

44 RTLM  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:11:23am
45 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:11:25am

"What I said was, Goofy should be killed, since dogs are haraam! Off with his head, inshallah!"

46 Dave the.....  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:11:36am
"I did not issue a fatwa on Scooby Doo."

That's because those meddleing kids got in the way.

47 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:11:46am

re: #37 iowavette

Do I win? I posted at the same instant you did.

48 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:00am

re: #46 Dave the.....

That's because those meddleing kids got in the way.

Rooby-doo!

49 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:04am

re: #47 elevenbravo1969

Do I win? I posted at the same instant you did.

ding ding ding ding ding

50 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:18am

re: #36 jcbunga

HAHAHAHHAHAA

Or-why haven't they tackled the eternal debate: who would YOU want on your side-Roadrunner or Willey E. Coyote?

51 iowavette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:19am

"I did not issue a fatwa's on Yogi Bear and Boo-boo."

52 Opinionated  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:21am

Between the Disney mouse and the Saudi rats, I'm with the mouse.

53 Jimmah  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:25am

If this is what they are like with Mickey Mouse, what is Ren and Stimpy going to do to them?

54 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:26am

"Those evil Zionists what with their direct quoting us.

Eveeeeeeel."

55 Perplexed  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:34am

Popeye would kick the imams butt - without resorting to the use of performance enhancing spinach.

56 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:35am

re: #28 MrSilverDragon

Didn't you see "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" They got this stuff called "Dip" that'll take care of it!

Can we try dipping some jihadis instead?

57 freedombilly  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:41am

And I also call on all imaginary characters from Saudi Arabia to be killed.

A cartoon eye for a cartoon eye.

58 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:12:49am

re: #36 jcbunga

Since he's baring his soul, how does he feel about Foghorn Leghorn?

Ah say, Ah say, the boy's about as bright as a pound of wet leather.

59 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:00am

re: #53 Jimmah

If this is what they are like with Mickey Mouse, what is Ren and Stimpy going to do to them?

Sell them nipples?

60 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:07am
61 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:07am

Squirel and moose

62 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:17am

re: #48 Ward Cleaver

LOL!

Why no fatwa on Thelma, for being a lesbian?

63 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:19am

"And I stand by the hadith that says a woman has to have sex with her husband even if she doesn't want to.

Or she will be CURSED!

And I thank allan for this edict, else I could never intimidate any of my slaves, I mean wives into the bedroom."

64 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:22am

re: #57 freedombilly

And I also call on all imaginary characters from Saudi Arabia to be killed.

A cartoon eye for a cartoon eye.

Yeah! Then we send in Little Orphan Annie!

65 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:25am

Don't Mess with the Mouse

Some Guinness was spilled on the barroom floor
when the pub was shut for the night.
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
and stood in the pale moonlight.
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor,
then back on his haunches he sat.
And all night long you could hear him roar,
'Bring on the fookin' cat!'

66 jcbunga  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:35am

In the words of the immortal Baghdad Bob, I now inform you that you are too far from reality.

67 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:13:55am

re: #62 WriterMom

LOL!

Why no fatwa on Thelma, for being a lesbian?

hahahahahaha

68 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:14:42am

He's holding Mickey Mouse responsible for wives becoming dissastisfied w/their husbands (& visey versa)?

69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:14:52am

I think I found the executioner. Hassan chop!

70 freedombilly  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:14:53am

re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

So I assume that Ayers and this guy have the same PR Agency.

If he has the same PR agency as Ayers it would be the MFM.

71 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:14:55am
Then it was aired by four huge global TV networks – ABC, BBC, Fox News, and CNN.

Woohoo! Huge, Global!

72 iowavette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:14:57am

11Bravo - You, me and GAK. The last remaining Americans aware of Heckel and Jeckel. Oh, for some reason that reminds me:

"I did not issue fatwa's on Larry, Curly and Moe."

73 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:14:58am

re: #64 subsailor68

If they reall start fucking around...send in the Power Rangers.

74 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:01am

re: #62 WriterMom

LOL!

Why no fatwa on Thelma, for being a lesbian?

Geeky woman + glasses = lesbian?

75 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:15am

re: #61 midwestgak

Squirel and moose

Here's a moose:

"Sorry, folks! We're closed for two weeks to clean and repair America's favorite family fun park. Sorry, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh!"

76 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:25am

re: #71 Silhouette

But all Zionist Mossad roads lead to MEMRI!

77 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:31am

re: #73 WriterMom

If they reall start fucking around...send in the Power Rangers.

How about Team America?

78 Intrepid  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:33am

But....why does Goofy wear clothes and talk, while Pluto doesn't? Would the Saudi Cleric spare Goofy (due to his human characteristics) but issue a fatwa against Pluto?

79 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:37am

re: #65 MandyManners

Don't Mess with the Mouse

Some Guinness was spilled on the barroom floor
when the pub was shut for the night.
Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse
and stood in the pale moonlight.
He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor,
then back on his haunches he sat.
And all night long you could hear him roar,
'Bring on the fookin' cat!'

Sounds like an Irish mouse alright.

80 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:51am

re: #74 MandyManners

It's a rumour-I don't think Thelma has officially come out of the cartoon closet.

81 Jimmah  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:15:53am

re: #60 Ojoe

Jessica Rabbit, fatwa material.

That would be meltdown.

82 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:16:00am

re: #63 Silhouette

"And I stand by the hadith that says a woman has to have sex with her husband even if she doesn't want to.

Or she will be CURSED!

And I thank allan for this edict, else I could never intimidate any of my slaves, I mean wives into the bedroom."

My wife agrees that a woman should have sex her husband. But she told me it's up to me to find that woman, she ain't helping. That's my gal?

83 iowavette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:16:30am

Haha. "I did not issue a fatwa on Bullwinkle Moose." Thanks, GAK.

84 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:16:39am

re: #74 MandyManners

Geeky woman + glasses = lesbian?

I think it has more to do with the Pete Rose tribute haircut.

85 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:16:40am
They want a form of Islam that will not terrify the enemies, but such a thing is impossible,

But if I said that...

86 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:16:43am

re: #78 Intrepid

Because Pluto has secret connections with Uranus-it's a more sensitive topic.

87 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:16:45am

re: #75 Honorary Yooper

Here's a moose:

"Sorry, folks! We're closed for two weeks to clean and repair America's favorite family fun park. Sorry, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh!"

Chevy? Is that you?

88 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:16:52am

You know, they issue a fatwa against a cartoon mouse, and yet, no mention of the "Hello, Kitty! Vibrator". Those slackers.

89 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:04am

re: #69 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think I found the executioner. Hassan chop!

That's him alright. Bugs would call them all ultra-maroons, of course.

90 Intrepid  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:17am

re: #80 WriterMom

It's a rumour-I don't think Thelma has officially come out of the cartoon closet.

Jinkies!

91 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:18am

re: #82 Nevergiveup

a woman should have sex her husband

LOL. Rotate that!

92 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:26am

re: #77 subsailor68

How about Team America?

F*ck Yeah!

93 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:26am

Divorce court judge: "Mr. Mouse, I cannot grant you a divorce based solely on your claim that Minnie is crazy."

Mickey Mouse: "Your honor, I didn't say she was crazy. I said she was f---ing Goofy!"

94 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:27am

re: #77 subsailor68

How about Team America?

We could send in Marvin.

/"Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom!"

95 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:29am

re: #73 WriterMom

If they reall start fucking around...send in the Power Rangers.

How about some mental abuse?

96 JohnAdams  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:44am

re: #62 WriterMom

LOL!

Why no fatwa on Thelma, for being a lesbian?

How about Peppermint Patty?

97 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:17:50am

Cats in the zoo. Jew-eating rabbits. Hating on Mickey Mouse. This is the world we live in.

98 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:10am

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Sounds like an Irish mouse alright.

I had to change the next-to-last word 'cause it was way worse than the "F" word.

99 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:18am

re: #88 MrSilverDragon

You know, they issue a fatwa against a cartoon mouse, and yet, no mention of the "Hello, Kitty! Vibrator". Those slackers.

Please tell me that's not real.

100 red satellite  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:24am
I mentioned Mickey Mouse, or that Jerry, by way of example only.

Alright that does it. Picking on Mickey Mouse....that's one thing...but denigrating Jerry? Enough already- the Pox on you and your family!

101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:33am

re: #75 Honorary Yooper

Here's a moose:

"Sorry, folks! We're closed for two weeks to clean and repair America's favorite family fun park. Sorry, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh!"

"They treated me like a dog, Mr. Wally! They humiliated my human decencies!"

102 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:37am

re: #80 WriterMom

It's a rumour-I don't think Thelma has officially come out of the cartoon closet.

I always liked her more than the blonde.

103 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:54am

re: #84 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think it has more to do with the Pete Rose tribute haircut.

Easy to care for.

104 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:54am

re: #95 MandyManners

Don't you think their lives are full of enough mental abuse already?!?!

105 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:18:58am

Okay let me try again .. he's holding Mickey Mouse responsible for dissatisfied wives/husbands? Mr. Daisy will be interested in this theory. All this time he's been thinking I get testy when he can't seem to recall where the washing machine is located.

106 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:08am

re: #96 JohnAdams

How about Peppermint Patty?

Don't know. She did have a crush on Charlie. Now Marcie on the other hand...

/Sir.

107 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:25am
108 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:30am

MEEEEEMRIs.
Driving me out of my mind.
Misty plots within MEMRI.
Recording all our words.

109 jcbunga  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:31am

I love Foghorn Leghorn-ism's...That boy's about as sharp as a sack of wet mice...yeeeeeeeuhhhh

110 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:40am

re: #93 elevenbravo1969

Divorce court judge: "Mr. Mouse, I cannot grant you a divorce based solely on your claim that Minnie is crazy."

Mickey Mouse: "Your honor, I didn't say she was crazy. I said she was f---ing Goofy!"

*blink...blink...blink*

111 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:42am

re: #96 JohnAdams

Oh, she's for sure Lesbanese...NTTAWWT.

112 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:46am

re: #105 Daisy

Okay let me try again .. he's holding Mickey Mouse responsible for dissatisfied wives/husbands? Mr. Daisy will be interested in this theory. All this time he's been thinking I get testy when he can't seem to recall where the washing machine is located.

What's a washing machine?

113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:19:58am

re: #102 MandyManners

I always liked her more than the blonde.

I'm officially turned on now.

114 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:20:14am

re: #104 WriterMom

Don't you think their lives are full of enough mental abuse already?!?!

It's self-inflicted.

115 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:20:16am

re: #107 ploome hineni

L'CHAIM BABY!

116 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:20:34am

re: #113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

SIMMAH DOWN
SIMMAH DOWN

117 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:20:35am

re: #99 Honorary Yooper

Please tell me that's not real.

I regret to inform.... but it is real.

118 JohnAdams  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:20:45am

re: #106 Honorary Yooper

Don't know. She did have a crush on Charlie. Now Marcie on the other hand...

/Sir.

I think Lucy grew up to be Hillary Clinton.

119 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:20:48am

re: #113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

*sigh*

120 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:20:55am

re: #93 elevenbravo1969

LOLOLOL

121 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:21:02am

re: #78 Intrepid

Send Al-Munajid to Pluto on the next space mission. NASA can solve this.

122 Athos  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:21:19am

Well, nothing like the big lie.

123 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:22:18am

re: #36 jcbunga

Since he's baring his soul, how does he feel about Foghorn Leghorn?

Foghorn would run rings around this asshat...

124 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:22:22am

Don't forget today's Joke of the day.....

Micky Mouse is visiting his psychiatrist.

The Psychiatrist says, "I'm sorry, Mr. Mouse, that you think think your wife, Mini, is crazy."

Micky says, "You idiot. I didn't say she was crazy! I said that she's f#ucking Goofy!"

125 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:22:39am

re: #121 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey

Send Al-Munajid to Pluto on the next space mission. NASA can solve this.

We were lost, none of us knew where we were. Then Harry starts 'feeling around on all the trees' and he says... "I got it, we on Pluto", I say, 'Harry how can ya tell", and he says, "from the bark, you dummies... Ha-ha! From the bark!"

126 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:22:54am

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin allegedly threatened to hang Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili "by the balls" during the August war in Georgia, a report not denied by Putin's spokesman said on Friday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I'm not sure that is fatal, but I bet it sure smarts?

127 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:22:56am

re: #112 Nevergiveup

What's a washing machine?

I'm not tellin' -- and don't even bother asking Mr. Daisy.

128 WriterMom  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:23:27am

re: #123 Dustyvet

Discussing of feelings between guys is totally haram. I believe the religious edict would be: DON'T GO THERE (or else).

129 Kenneth  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:24:08am

re: #11 Charles

You heard why Mickey Mouse dumped Mini Mouse?

Because she was f*cking Goofy.

130 JohnAdams  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:24:34am

re: #123 Dustyvet

Foghorn would run rings around this asshat...

On a day like today FL is heading over to the Widow Douglas's house with a bundle of flowers. "I need yuh LOVE to keep me waaaahhhhmmm!"

131 Dekar  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:25:01am

Most hilarious one yet... Like that guy said, they'd have a field day with Ren and Stimpy. Even I want to kill them!

132 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:25:16am

re: #128 WriterMom

Discussing of feelings between guys is totally haram. I believe the religious edict would be: DON'T GO THERE (or else).

Coyote will be ordering the man a nice gift from Acme Company...:)

133 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:25:29am

bing bing bing Ricochet Rabbit.

134 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:25:49am

I wonder what these fools would make of Popeye and Olive Oil's relationship?

135 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:25:53am

re: #125 Honorary Yooper

We were lost, none of us knew where we were. Then Harry starts 'feeling around on all the trees' and he says... "I got it, we on Pluto", I say, 'Harry how can ya tell", and he says, "from the bark, you dummies... Ha-ha! From the bark!"

Then we killed and ate Harry.

136 Urso1  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:26:04am

"They want a form of Islam that will not terrify the enemies, but such a thing is impossible, because Allah said: “The Jews and Christians will not be pleased with you until you follow their religion.” No form of Islam can please the enemies. Don’t even go there, brothers. It’s a done deal. No form of Islam can please the enemies".
Straight from the horses' ass. Religion of Peace My Ass.

137 Sean  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:26:17am

Earthman, your Mickey Mouse is one big stupid dope!

138 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:26:34am

re: #134 Daisy

I wonder what these fools would make of Popeye and Olive Oil's relationship?

That's Oyl, I believe

139 Jimmah  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:26:39am

Can't remember exactly where it comes from - possibly a hadith - but there is a story that on the day of judgement, Allah will summon the artists before him and command them to bring their pictures to life...or else face an eternity in hell.

Evidently, Allah sees the drawing of pictures of living things as a threat to his creative monopoly. How a God could be so insecure must be another of those 'divine mysteries'...

140 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:27:03am

re: #126 Nevergiveup

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin allegedly threatened to hang Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili "by the balls" during the August war in Georgia, a report not denied by Putin's spokesman said on Friday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I'm not sure that is fatal, but I bet it sure smarts?

That would just have been part of what would have befallen Saakashvili. What an enraged Putin would do to an enemy who fell into his power is not fit for saying. Imagine what happened to John McCain. Now multiply that by 3 and you might be close to how horrible Putin could make someone suffer.

141 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:27:07am

re: #124 DeafDog

Nice job there of disguising the F word.

142 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:27:09am

re: #134 Daisy

I wonder what these fools would make of Popeye and Olive Oil's relationship?

I think Popeye must have been at sea a long time for him to want Olive Oyl that bad.

143 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:27:13am

re: #134 Daisy

I wonder what these fools would make of Popeye and Olive Oil's relationship?

Not to mention Popeye's and Wimpy's!

HEY ,,,,NOT that there's anything wrong with that

144 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:27:14am

re: #138 midwestgak

That's Oyl, I believe

She's Jewish?

145 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:27:26am

re: #118 JohnAdams

I think Lucy grew up to be Hillary Clinton.

Nooooo.

Lucy is a capitalist.

146 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:13am

re: #144 subsailor68

No, Greek.

147 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:15am

re: #137 Sean

Earthman, your Mickey Mouse is one big stupid dope!

Refresh my memory, didn't they dress up some schmuck in a mouse costume who taught children to hate jews?

148 iowavette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:25am

"I did not issue a fatwa on Betty Boop."

149 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:26am

I get on LGF, get on the latest thread ... and here's CHARLES throwing out a pun! WAAAAHHHHH! Late to the party! *sniffle sob*

150 JohnAdams  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:27am

re: #139 Jimmah

Can't remember exactly where it comes from - possibly a hadith - but there is a story that on the day of judgement, Allah will summon the artists before him and command them to bring their pictures to life...or else face an eternity in hell.

Evidently, Allah sees the drawing of pictures of living things as a threat to his creative monopoly. How a God could be so insecure must be another of those 'divine mysteries'...

To steal from Woody Allen: "Allah is the winner of the Zelda Fitzgerald Emotional Maturity Award."

151 mean Gene  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:32am

Don't these clowns know that we started getting translations of their every televised word around the last years of Arafat?
Dumb dummies!
They actually think they can still say one thing to us and another for Muslim consumption.

152 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:36am

re: #138 midwestgak

That's Oyl, I believe

Oy Oy Captain. Do you happen to know who Sweepea's father would be? Whimpy has the makings of that sort of dark horse, I think.

153 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:42am

re: #147 midwestgak

Refresh my memory, didn't they dress up some schmuck in a mouse costume who taught children to hate jews?

And a bee, and several other creatures.

154 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:28:46am

Charles,

Why didn't you post the video of him actually calling for the Fatwa?

So is this the thread where we discuss the Q'uran?

155 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:29:03am

re: #146 joncelli

No, Greek.

LOL! (But ooohhh, disturbing images abound.)

156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:29:13am

re: #152 Daisy

Oy Oy Captain. Do you happen to know who Sweepea's father would be? Whimpy has the makings of that sort of dark horse, I think.

He would do anything for a hamburger.

157 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:29:19am

re: #141 elevenbravo1969

I see someone already told my joke above (using the divorce lawyer angle) so I'm feeling silly about the posting it again. At least I didn't totally drop the F bomb to boot.

158 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:29:24am

re: #144 subsailor68

She's Jewish?

hahahaha

159 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:29:37am

We could just go old school on them.

Betty Boop

160 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:29:40am

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

161 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:30:07am

re: #154 WrathofG-d

Charles,

Why didn't you post the video of him actually calling for the Fatwa?

So is this the thread where we discuss the Q'uran?

Q'uran, Q'uartoons - its all good.

162 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:30:17am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Snicker, snicker, you said erect. Ya di da di da dah.

163 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:30:28am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Do you REALLY want to start this?!

164 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:30:50am

re: #152 Daisy

Oy Oy Captain. Do you happen to know who Sweepea's father would be? Whimpy has the makings of that sort of dark horse, I think.

Sourgrapes

165 Iron Fist  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:30:51am

re: #139 Jimmah

Allah is a very co-dependant god.

166 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:30:54am

re: #148 iowavette

"I did not issue a fatwa on Betty Boop."

But if he knew about her, he'd want up to her neck in dirt having stones hurled at her head, asap. But Betty Boop would clobber the goon before he had a chance. I just know she would. She's sassy that way.

167 Racer X  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:01am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Yes, to keep the American women out.

168 Sean  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:11am

re: #147 midwestgak

Yup. Farfur. Then the Joooooooos killed him!

169 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:13am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Or is it just another reason not to go soft on illegal immigration?

170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:13am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

There's a "pole vault" joke in there somewhere.

171 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:30am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Maybe all the older illegals will go back now.

172 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:38am

re: #156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He would do anything for a hamburger.

and gladly pay you Tuesday.

173 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:42am

re: #156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He would do anything for a hamburger.

Lol!

174 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:50am

re: #154 WrathofG-d

Charles,

Why didn't you post the video of him actually calling for the Fatwa?

So is this the thread where we discuss the Q'uran?

Let's not go there. That could start trouble of a kind we don't need.

175 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:56am

re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There's a "pole vault" joke in there somewhere.

Let's not drag Europeans into it.

176 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:31:58am

re: #171 Ford_Prefect

Maybe all the older illegals will go back now.

Well, even if not, they should be easier to spot.

177 Charles  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:32:03am

No bias at ABC News. None at all.

Campaign Boogeyman William Ayers Talks to ‘GMA’.

"Boogeyman" is a technical journalistic term, of course.

178 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:32:05am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Instant Rimshot

179 Teacake!  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:32:32am
They took an excerpt about Mickey Mouse... Then it was aired by four huge global TV networks – ABC, BBC, Fox News, and CNN. In other words, it was viewed by 350 million people. Some of them put the collapsing WTC building as background to the Mickey Mouse fatwa. They drew a connection between terrorism and what I said.

WTF? LOL is that even true? I don't have a tv.

180 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:32:35am

re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There's a "pole vault" joke in there somewhere.

*giggle*

181 JohnAdams  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:32:44am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Release the horny geriatric Mexicans!

182 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:33:05am

The Saudis host/chair a UN conference on Religious Tolerance, and now we have a Saudi cleric denying public statements he is on record having uttered. Add in a president elect that makes no evasions when he profusely spews lie after lie and still a slim majority of the voting public sees no wrong. No wonder the Saudi cleric can bald-faced flat-out lie. The West collectively doesn't care about being lied to.

183 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:33:12am

Are all the fatwas about killing? Death, death, death.

Don't they ever do like our Congress and issue fatwas recognizing the Abdia District Apple Festival, or declaring June 22rd, Write A Letter To An Old Friend Day?

184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:33:23am

re: #180 MandyManners

*giggle*

Mandy! You're BLUSHING!

185 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:33:46am

re: #149 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I get on LGF, get on the latest thread ... and here's CHARLES throwing out a pun! WAAAAHHHHH! Late to the party! *sniffle sob*

All I can say is that it is a sign of the Apocalypse. ;)

186 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:33:51am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

Mexico City to give out Viagra to men 70 and older

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Shit, now we are gonna have to erect a higher wall at the border?

Sounds like pole vaulting skills could come in handy. Ouch.

187 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:34:11am

"Hypocrites" = Jews & Christians, because they claim to have One G-d, but (as far as the Muslims are concerned) actually have created gods with G-d. (Jews: Talmud, Golden Calf; Christians: Trinity, Jesus).

Other Infidels = all other non-Muslims, and Muslims that don't practice the type of Islam that they consider taught/commanded by Mo & smAllah.

I could go on......

But as the Hebrews say: Allah Achbar. (it translates differently in Hebrew than in Arabic)

188 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:34:58am

re: #186 Daisy

Sounds like pole vaulting skills could come in handy. Ouch.

Yeah, and the drug mules could practice their "high" jump.

189 JohnAdams  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:35:09am

re: #183 Silhouette

Well that brought a chuckle.

190 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:35:16am

re: #180 MandyManners

Quirky minds so often drift along the same paths :)

191 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:35:19am

re: #177 Charles

No bias at ABC News. None at all.

Campaign Boogeyman William Ayers Talks to ‘GMA’.

"Boogeyman" is a technical journalistic term, of course.

Of course. To quote Officer Barbrady, "Move along, there's nothing to see here."

192 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:35:20am

re: #177 Charles

Sometimes I wish they'd just come out and say, "We're the propaganda arm of the Democratic party."

193 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:35:24am

I am out. All you Lizards have a nice weekend. And remember, Don't Panic!

194 Dave the.....  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:35:45am

Charles

No bias at ABC News. None at all.

Campaign Boogeyman William Ayers Talks to ‘GMA’.

"Boogeyman" is a technical journalistic term, of course.

I walked by a TV a work this morning and they had some CNN story on about the KKK (they still exist?). Funny, but they don't refer to them as "activists" or "boogeymen". I geuss those terms are only used for left wing terrorists.

195 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:35:49am

re: #185 FurryOldGuyJeans

All I can say is that it is a sign of the Apocalypse. ;)

Undoubtedly has ruined my day. Skimming past the first couple of dozen commnents, I figured it'd have been wrung out already.

*onset of despair*

196 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:36:17am

re: #177 Charles

No bias at ABC News. None at all.

Campaign Boogeyman William Ayers Talks to ‘GMA’.

"Boogeyman" is a technical journalistic term, of course.

"It's not terrorism because it doesn't target people, to kill or injure," Ayers said.

If Bill is on anyone's Christmas list, a dictionary would be a thoughtful gift.

ter-ror-ism - [ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA Pronunciation –noun "the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes."

Yes, Bill, it was terrorism and your are a terrorist (and friend of BHO)....that's nice.

197 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:36:58am

re: #194 Dave the.....

Charles

I walked by a TV a work this morning and they had some CNN story on about the KKK (they still exist?). Funny, but they don't refer to them as "activists" or "boogeymen". I geuss those terms are only used for left wing terrorists.

Is David Dukes a "distinguished statesman"?

198 Jimmah  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:37:04am

re: #150 JohnAdams

To steal from Woody Allen: "Allah is the winner of the Zelda Fitzgerald Emotional Maturity Award."

"The fact that Allah looks like an unhappy mental to our puny minds is merely a sign of how unworthy we are! Our minds can only misrepresent his greatness, etc..."

/

199 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:37:54am

re: #196 DeafDog

And there is the fact that he did kill someone.

And tried to kill far more. The nails in the Ft Dix bomb have only one purpose - to tear through human flesh.

200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:38:01am

re: #196 DeafDog

"It's not terrorism because it doesn't target people, to kill or injure," Ayers said.

If Bill is on anyone's Christmas list, a dictionary would be a thoughtful gift.

ter-ror-ism - [ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA Pronunciation –noun "the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes."

Yes, Bill, it was terrorism and your are a terrorist (and friend of BHO)....that's nice.

But they did kill & injure, not to mention the 25,000,000 Americans who would had to have been "settled", according to Praire Fire.
/SPIT

201 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:38:35am

Last update - 20:02 14/11/2008

Olmert: Israel won't reconcile with Gaza rocket fire

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee, you coulda fooled me?

202 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:38:44am

re: #192 joncelli

Sometimes I wish they'd just come out and say, "We're the propaganda arm of the Democratic party."

Why say it when they can deny it with a straight face and crossed fingers. I keep thinking of guilty little kid denials of not doing something wrong every time they try to say and show how impartial and unbiased they are.

203 ROPMA  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:39:01am

OT At least we still have the bill of rights....For now.

204 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:39:03am

re: #197 Nevergiveup

Is David Dukes a "distinguished statesman"?

Ever since he came out on the side of the poor oppressed muslims, yes.

205 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:39:24am
...Along came the MEMRI website – that is, memri.net – which is a Jewish website run by a Mossad officer, which monitors... Even this show of yours is monitored, and they take excerpts from it...


The implication being MEMRI provided false translations which is patently absurd.

There are many Arab linguists that would love to catch MEMRI in a mistranslation. They've not done so yet.

Suck it up Muhammad Al-Munajid. You were busted yet again.

206 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:39:26am

re: #203 ROPMA

OT At least we still have the bill of rights....For now.

Soon we'll have two!

207 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:39:32am

re: #196 DeafDog

"It's not terrorism because it doesn't target people, to kill or injure," Ayers said.

Right Bill. Now explain how your girlfriend died. Self-absorbed doesn't begin to describe him; Ayers is psychopath.

208 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:39:36am

re: #196 DeafDog

Hold on a bit. Since you bring this up. Yes, there might be a technical definition, but I also think there is a "use" definition.

I believe there is a big difference between those that target a building without anyone in it, or which is a military target, and those that purposefully target civilians.

209 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:39:55am

re: #199 Silhouette

And there is the fact that he did kill someone.

And tried to kill far more. The nails in the Ft Dix bomb have only one purpose - to tear through human flesh.

But those targeted by those bombs were not human.

/// sounds like Muslim clerics saying why jihad is approved against non-Muslims.

210 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:40:05am

In other news, the SCOTUS has sided with the Navy on its use of sonar in training exercises.

When asked for comment, Shamu responded "Eh?"

211 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:40:29am

OK, I'll write it for the 1000th time.

Embarrassment will bring victory.

212 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:40:55am

re: #211 Ben Hur

OK, I'll write it for the 1000th time.

Embarrassment will bring victory.

you've been counting?

213 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:41:28am

anyone for a friday afternoon drinking thread

214 tfc3rid  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:41:36am

A thinking person would assume these people are writing parodies for some sitcom... The problem is, these people really think this way...

215 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:41:38am

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

But they did kill & injure, not to mention the 25,000,000 Americans who would had to have been "settled", according to Praire Fire.
/SPIT


I stand corrected, but reassert the need for Bill to get a dictionary.

BTW - Did you ever wonder what was greatest word of all time....it's "callipygian" Chicks dig it.

216 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:41:44am

re: #212 WrathofG-d

you've been counting?

If I've told you once, I've told you a million times. Stop exaggerating.

:-)

217 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:42:11am

re: #210 subsailor68

In other news, the SCOTUS has sided with the Navy on its use of sonar in training exercises.

When asked for comment, Shamu responded "Eh?"

Should I give you an up-ping for that?
Aren't they really down-pings?
Us airedales get confused. Help me out.

218 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:42:12am

re: #213 yochanan

anyone for a friday afternoon drinking thread

This one already is. Everybodies in the back room.

219 jorline  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:42:25am
like in the case of Harry Potter, and for arousing urges, which make people dissatisfied with their spouses.

Screw Viagra...I'm renting Harry Potter this weekend. How in the hell to you become dissatisfied with your spouse by watching HP...am I missing something? Must be wand envy.

No form of Islam can please the enemies.


No form of the enemies can please Islam.

Fixed that for you Muhammad.

220 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:42:33am

re: #211 Ben Hur

OK, I'll write it for the 1000th time.

Embarrassment will bring victory.

William Ayers is well past being embarrassable. If you forced his deeds before his face, he would claim them proudly.

221 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:42:50am

re: #208 WrathofG-d

Hold on a bit. Since you bring this up. Yes, there might be a technical definition, but I also think there is a "use" definition.

I believe there is a big difference between those that target a building without anyone in it, or which is a military target, and those that purposefully target civilians.

I'm curious. Would you refer to the first WTC bombing as a terrorist act? Or not.

222 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:12am

re: #217 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Should I give you an up-ping for that?
Aren't they really down-pings?
Us airedales get confused. Help me out.

Ha ha! You know, I don't really know. We were always passive - going active not good for health.

:-)

223 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:12am

re: #217 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Should I give you an up-ping for that?
Aren't they really down-pings?
Us airedales get confused. Help me out.

A marine getting confused? Oh lawdy, how ironic ;)

224 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:12am

re: #208 WrathofG-d

Hold on a bit. Since you bring this up. Yes, there might be a technical definition, but I also think there is a "use" definition.

I believe there is a big difference between those that target a building without anyone in it, or which is a military target, and those that purposefully target civilians.

One is a murderer and the other is called an arsonist?

225 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:14am

re: #211 Ben Hur

OK, I'll write it for the 1000th time.

Embarrassment will bring victory.

Stan hates to be mocked.

226 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:15am

found a great beer OLD RASPUTIN RUSSIAN IMPERAL STOUT AT 9%

227 Teacake!  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:29am
The West collectively doesn't care about being lied to.

Yep. Otherwise a guy like obama would never win a presidential election.

228 Land Shark  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:34am

re: #183 Silhouette

Are all the fatwas about killing? Death, death, death.

Don't they ever do like our Congress and issue fatwas recognizing the Abdia District Apple Festival, or declaring June 22rd, Write A Letter To An Old Friend Day?

Ain't that something? And mind you, this is the religion of peace we're talking about.

229 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:38am

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

William Ayers is well past being embarrassable. If you forced his deeds before his face, he would claim them proudly.

He already is.

230 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:40am

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If there was ever a guy who really needed to be 'hoist with his own petard...'

BTW I'd like to take that flag he's standing on and, since it's defiled already, shove it up his ass.

231 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:50am

The best cartoon mouse of all time:


Sniffles...:)


232 J.S.  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:44:14am

re: #196 DeafDog

Agreed. The FLQ (Front de libération du Québec) terrorists in Quebec blew up mail boxes in the 70s. They were terrorists.

233 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:44:38am

re: #221 Daisy

Insofar that it is my understanding that there were people in the WTC at the time, and/or the perpetrators intended there to be, and it was their intent to target innocent civilians....yes, of course.

Why?

234 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:44:40am

re: #223 FurryOldGuyJeans

A marine getting confused? Oh lawdy, how ironic ;)

Son of a career Marine.
4 years in the Navy -- early-mid Sixties -- carrier in the Tonkin Gulf.

235 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:44:54am

re: #219 jorline

"How in the hell to you become dissatisfied with your spouse by watching HP...am I missing something? "

Perhaps he has a secret crush on Harry Potter.

236 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:16am

Willy Ayers and Muhammad Al-Munajid: enemies of liberty.

237 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:24am

re: #232 J.S.
THE FLQ also murdered a politican i was in quebec when the canuks did the WAR MEASURES ACT. fun seeing canadian forces on every corner with loaded weapons.

238 twenglish  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:25am

It takes a very brave man to kill a cartoon character , first the candidate cartoon assassin must graduate from the school of mercilessly beat up stuffed animals and achieve that honor without recieving any injury from Tigger....

I can't believe it , did I really just say that ?

Believe me I haven't been drinking , not one drop ......


lmao

239 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:28am

re: #234 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Son of a career Marine.
4 years in the Navy -- early-mid Sixties -- carrier in the Tonkin Gulf.

Oh, ok. I have to apologize to a fellow squidie, then. ;)

240 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:36am

re: #235 Daisy

"How in the hell to you become dissatisfied with your spouse by watching HP...am I missing something? "

Perhaps he has a secret crush on Harry Potter.

Umm...wouldn't that be Dumbledore?

241 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:36am

re: #202 FurryOldGuyJeans

Why say it when they can deny it with a straight face and crossed fingers. I keep thinking of guilty little kid denials of not doing something wrong every time they try to say and show how impartial and unbiased they are.

The cats know better.

242 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:51am

re: #222 subsailor68

Ha ha! You know, I don't really know. We were always passive - going active not good for health.

:-)

So you're admitting to having been passive-aggressive?

:-) ... too good to pass up

243 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:45:55am

OT - Seattle will NOT ban nudity in public parks.

That is all.

/isn't it cold up there?

244 bulwrk  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:46:25am

File under things you don't see in Hollywood everyday, a U-2 just flew over at very low altitude.

245 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:46:41am

re: #242 pre-Boomer Marine brat

So you're admitting to having been passive-aggressive?

:-) ... too good to pass up

Sigh. When you open the door, ya just know someone's gonna walk through it.

:-)

246 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:47:13am

re: #244 bulwrk

File under things you don't see in Hollywood everyday, a U-2 just flew over at very low altitude.

Has the government just declared the liberal Hollywood left enemies of the state?

247 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:47:26am

re: #245 subsailor68

Sigh. When you open the door, ya just know someone's gonna walk through it.

:-)

LOL!

248 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:47:34am

re: #244 bulwrk

File under things you don't see in Hollywood everyday, a U-2 just flew over at very low altitude.

Sounds like someone up there's missed the point.

:-)

249 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:47:44am

re: #244 bulwrk

File under things you don't see in Hollywood everyday, a U-2 just flew over at very low altitude.

or anywhere else.

250 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:48:00am

re: #244 bulwrk

File under things you don't see in Hollywood everyday, a U-2 just flew over at very low altitude.

What the heck was that all about? I didn't see it but my hubby did. I have the police scanner on for Pasadena and they are getting multiple reports of two military jets and a U-2. The cops don't know what's going on either.

251 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:48:01am

re: #238 twenglish

It takes a very brave man to kill a cartoon character , first the candidate cartoon assassin must graduate from the school of mercilessly beat up stuffed animals and achieve that honor without recieving any injury from Tigger....

I can't believe it , did I really just say that ?

Believe me I haven't been drinking , not one drop ......


lmao

Fermented root beer?

252 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:48:19am

re: #243 Silhouette

OT - Seattle will NOT ban nudity in public parks.

That is all.

/isn't it cold up there?

You women all know about shrinkage in cold weather right?

254 Iron Fist  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:48:32am

re: #230 elevenbravo1969

Impale him. It will serve as a warning to all his fellow travelers.

255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:48:45am

re: #243 Silhouette

OT - Seattle will NOT ban nudity in public parks.

That is all.

/isn't it cold up there?

And wet.
/"There was significant shrinkage!"

256 quickjustice  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:48:48am

Disney has lobbied Congress successfully to extend the copyright on Mickey Mouse and the other Disney characters for 300 years. They should have expired back in the 1980s, putting the right to copy Mickey in the public domain. "Public domain" means anyone could have copied Mickey in future without paying a royalty to Disney.

I say "Free Mickey Mouse and his friends from the corporate oppressors!" ;-)

257 bulwrk  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:01am

re: #246 Outrider

lol, I'll start to worry when the B-52 shows up.

258 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:12am

re: #233 WrathofG-d

Insofar that it is my understanding that there were people in the WTC at the time, and/or the perpetrators intended there to be, and it was their intent to target innocent civilians....yes, of course.

Why?

"I believe there is a big difference between those that target a building without anyone in it, or which is a military target, and those that purposefully target civilians."

I think it's wise to assume that any buildings intended for human use, could be occupied at any time.

259 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:16am

re: #243 Silhouette

OT - Seattle will NOT ban nudity in public parks.

That is all.

/isn't it cold up there?

That's kinda perky, or is it shrivelled?

260 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:25am

re: #244 bulwrk

File under things you don't see in Hollywood everyday, a U-2 just flew over at very low altitude.

Bono's in town?

261 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:31am

re: #238 twenglish

<
Believe me I haven't been drinking , not one drop ......


lmao

Sounds like you're in denial. You know they say the first step is . . .

262 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:49am

re: #257 bulwrk

lol, I'll start to worry when the B-52 shows up.

By that time it's already to late

263 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:57am

re: #260 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Bono's in town?

Hahahahahahahaha!

264 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:49:59am

re: #255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

damn you how do i get beer off my monintor?

265 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:14am

re: #252 Nevergiveup

You women all know about shrinkage in cold weather right?

How would we know? :)

266 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:25am

re: #240 subsailor68

Umm...wouldn't that be Dumbledore?

I'd be 'going above my pay-scale' if I attempted to answer that one :)

267 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:26am

re: #257 bulwrk

lol, I'll start to worry when the B-52 shows up.

Why? It's just on the way to the Love Shack.

268 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:28am

re: #264 yochanan

damn you how do i get beer off my monintor?

A straw?

269 jorline  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:29am

re: #235 Daisy

"How in the hell to you become dissatisfied with your spouse by watching HP...am I missing something? "

Perhaps he has a secret crush on Harry Potter.

Me thinks you have a point, Daisy.

270 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:38am

re: #261 midwestgak

<
Believe me I haven't been drinking , not one drop ......


lmao

Sounds like you're in denial. You know they say the first step is . . .

sounds like you need a drink
(_)>

271 bulwrk  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:40am

re: #250 Pvt Bin Jammin

I don't know but it was low and slow and very loud.

272 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:50:54am

re: #29 midwestgak

Nope

magpies

273 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:51:06am

re: #264 yochanan

damn you how do i get beer off my monintor?

Sayeth Mandy:

SHOOT YER COMPUTER!

274 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:51:30am

re: #271 bulwrk

I don't know but it was low and slow and very loud.

Is there an air show going on somewhere close by?

275 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:51:39am

The U2 was probably looking for the streets with no name.
But they still haven't found what they're looking for.

276 Twenglish  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:51:47am

Well actually I used to hit the "Zatarains" every once in awhile , but I'm strictly a tee totaler now ..I stick to Diet Cola /

277 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:51:50am

re: #271 bulwrk

I heard it and ran outside but there were too many trees for me to see it. I thought the U-2's would be in mothballs.

278 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:51:51am

re: #267 Honorary Yooper

Why? It's just on the way to the Love Shack.

Hennnrrry... :)

279 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:52:13am

re: #271 bulwrk

I don't know but it was low and slow and very loud.

Sounds like a newlywed couple

280 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:52:24am

re: #272 HoosierHoops

magpies

yep

How you doin this fine Friday p.m?

281 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:52:26am

re: #258 Daisy

I hate to have this discussion as it will ultimately be used against me I am sure, but....

No. I disagree. If you target a building at a time when you know noone is going to be in it, I don't think it is the same as targeting a building when you know people are going to be in it.

282 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:52:29am

i remember just after sept 11 seeing a fighter flying very low over chicago
was i impressed

283 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:52:59am
284 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:53:08am

re: #250 Pvt Bin Jammin

What the heck was that all about? I didn't see it but my hubby did. I have the police scanner on for Pasadena and they are getting multiple reports of two military jets and a U-2. The cops don't know what's going on either.

What?

285 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:53:24am

Well the Justice Department just approved the merger of Inbev and Budweiser. Well that sucks. Drink American. Lets see what am I drinking today-hum "Blue Moon" --OOPS ---never mind

286 Racer X  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:53:46am

re: #277 Pvt Bin Jammin

I heard it and ran outside but there were too many trees for me to see it. I thought the U-2's would be in mothballs.

Heading?

Perhaps going to check on the fire? I did not see or hear it in the SF Valley.

287 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:54:49am

re: #286 Racer X

Heading?

Perhaps going to check on the fire? I did not see or hear it in the SF Valley.

Racer - is the first still burning out of control?

288 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:01am

re: #277 Pvt Bin Jammin

I heard it and ran outside but there were too many trees for me to see it. I thought the U-2's would be in mothballs.

Nope. Like Kelly Johnson's other designs, the U2 has far outlasted its thought-of service life.

289 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:05am

re: #284 MandyManners

It's probably going to turn out to be preparations for a fly-over or air show but it's kind of weird that the local police weren't told. Pasadena Police helicopter was airborne when it happened.

290 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:06am

OT:

Movin' Out (enjoy, smile, sing....its Friday...)

291 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:12am

This headline is wrong on so many levels:

Prosecutors: Man Shot 45 Times by Best Friend Lived Through First 32 Shots

Best friend?
Are ya sure it wasn't the first 33?

292 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:21am

northcoastbrewing russian imperal stout 9% great stuff.

293 elevenbravo1969  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:32am

re: #258 Daisy

The assholes that blew up the UW Madison Physics building back in 1970 said that they purposely set the thing off at 3 a.m. so nobody would get hurt. Tell that to the wife and kids of Mr. Fassnacht, who was working in his office or lab that morning. Mr. Fassnacht was murdered in the blast.

294 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:32am

re: #287 midwestgak

Racer - is the first still burning out of control?

Oprahs house is in the conflagration? Quick! Call the Big O.

295 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:51am

re: #286 Racer X

Heading?

Perhaps going to check on the fire? I did not see or hear it in the SF Valley.

Why would two jets and a U-2 be needed?

296 Twenglish  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:55:57am

Must be the Mango Fruit Milk I just drunk . either that or Muhammad Al-Munajid has been eating magice mushrooms again ......lol

297 bulwrk  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:56:25am

re: #274 Outrider

Not that I know of, and I attend most of them.

298 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:56:43am

re: #295 MandyManners

Why would two jets and a U-2 be needed?

Well with Obama coming in what else are they ever gonna be used for?

299 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:57:06am

re: #289 Pvt Bin Jammin

It's probably going to turn out to be preparations for a fly-over or air show but it's kind of weird that the local police weren't told. Pasadena Police helicopter was airborne when it happened.

According to Air Shows Calendar.com, the only air show in the country this weekend is in Florida.

300 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:57:08am

re: #286 Racer X

On the police scanner they said most of the reports were from the west side but my hubby said it flew east over Arcadia and then back west. Not near the fire and it was escorted by two other military type jets.

301 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:57:11am

re: #298 Nevergiveup

Well with Obama coming in what else are they ever gonna be used for?

Spying on Republicans.

302 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:57:13am

re: #287 midwestgak

Racer - is the first still burning out of control?

fire - I don't know where first came from.

303 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:57:22am

re: #281 WrathofG-d

I hate to have this discussion as it will ultimately be used against me I am sure, but....

No. I disagree. If you target a building at a time when you know noone is going to be in it, I don't think it is the same as targeting a building when you know people are going to be in it.

Hey, it's okay. We don't have to discuss it. But wait until you've raised a slew of teenagers and then get back to me about 'empty' buildings :) (hint: they're never empty) And I do think defining what constitutes a terrorist is a worthwhile endeavor. In fact, I was willing (some #'s of posts up) to consider it arguable whether Ayers was a terrorist or a CEO, as it were, of terrorists.

304 BignJames  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:57:46am

I got yer fatwa.

305 Raven1  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:57:57am

They supposedly don't want good ole Mick dead, But that hussy Minnie is definitely in need of some head to toe cover-up.

306 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:58:06am

re: #301 subsailor68

Spying on Republicans.

Over Hollywood?

307 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:58:08am

re: #297 bulwrk

Not that I know of, and I attend most of them.

Perhaps they are heading to a local air base prior to deployment for an exercise at NTC? Best I can come up with.

308 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:58:24am

re: #305 Raven1

They supposedly don't want good ole Mick dead, But that hussy Minnie is definitely in need of some head to toe cover-up.

She doesn't even wear a top!

309 bulwrk  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:58:34am

re: #286 Racer X

It flew west over Hollywood then turned north,maybe heading out to the Lockheed plant in Palmdale about 70 miles north of LA.

310 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:58:44am

re: #306 Honorary Yooper

Over Hollywood?

LOL! Guess they were really, really, really lost.

311 Cato the Elder  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:58:52am
dogs, pigs, and mice – reprehensible animals according to the Shari’a

When I read the Koran in bed at night, my dog sleeps right there beside me. Sometimes he might even sniff or lick the Koran.

I want my fatwa!

312 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:58:54am

re: #300 Pvt Bin Jammin

On the police scanner they said most of the reports were from the west side but my hubby said it flew east over Arcadia and then back west. Not near the fire and it was escorted by two other military type jets.

That would suck if someone stole a U2 and the jets are herding it.

313 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:59:04am

re: #230 elevenbravo1969

If there was ever a guy who really needed to be 'hoist with his own petard...'

BTW I'd like to take that flag he's standing on and, since it's defiled already, shove it up his ass.

Along with the flagpole. Sideways.

314 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:59:07am

re: #293 elevenbravo1969

The assholes that blew up the UW Madison Physics building back in 1970 said that they purposely set the thing off at 3 a.m. so nobody would get hurt. Tell that to the wife and kids of Mr. Fassnacht, who was working in his office or lab that morning. Mr. Fassnacht was murdered in the blast.

I understand- see my post #303.

315 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:59:17am

re: #308 Honorary Yooper

She doesn't even wear a top!

And Donald Duck doesn't even wear pants!

316 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:59:24am

re: #299 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I live near the Rose Bowl. Last weekend we had nothing but fighters but that was because of the UCLA/Oregon State game falling on Veteran's Day weekend. The police knew about that in advance but obviously were not told about this.

317 Racer X  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:59:26am

re: #287 midwestgak

Racer - is the fire still burning out of control?

The winds have died down a bit but still looks bad.

318 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:59:33am

re: #280 midwestgak

yep

How you doin this fine Friday p.m?


2 more hours Gak..then the 3day weekend..That means monday morning
when all the morning gang are here wishing they had baileys in thier coffee..
we can be doing the real thing...

319 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 11:59:47am

burp

320 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:00:06pm

re: #308 Honorary Yooper

She doesn't even wear a top!

uh, what would be the point? There's nothing there. lol

321 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:00:09pm

re: #312 Outrider

That would suck if someone stole a U2 and the jets are herding it.

Not the best plane to try to make a getaway in. Slow, unarmed & hard to handle.

322 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:00:24pm

re: #311 Cato the Elder
koran should be read in the washroom

323 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:00:56pm

I think this guy's just ticked because he went to the Magic Kingdom before the Fast Pass was available.

324 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:01:14pm
325 J.S.  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:01:27pm

re: #281 WrathofG-d

Wrath, maybe look up the last few comments on the previous thread. I posted a link to a Wiki U.S. definition of terrorism. In the United States, if you blow up anything (from pipelines, to buildings, to mail boxes) and you do so with the intent to intimidate the government into acting and/or trying to coerce the government into changing its policies, (in other words, you have used violence with a political motivation), then, you're a terrorist. (btw, in the UK you've got those animal protection freaks, who run around and burn down laboratories -- they're terrorist arsonists.)

326 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:02:17pm

re: #281 WrathofG-d

I hate to have this discussion as it will ultimately be used against me I am sure, but....

No. I disagree. If you target a building at a time when you know noone is going to be in it, I don't think it is the same as targeting a building when you know people are going to be in it.

Maybe not the same, but both are terrorism.

Trying to frighten people by even threats of violence to further your political agenda

327 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:02:43pm

re: #321 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not the best plane to try to make a getaway in. Slow, unarmed & hard to handle.

Thieves aren't the sharpest crayons in the box.

I remember back in the late 70s, someone stole an M60 tank at Fort Carson and headed through Colorado Springs with it. It was unarmed of course.

328 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:03:08pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

Flying fish

WOW!

329 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:03:08pm

re: #291 subsailor68

This headline is wrong on so many levels:

Prosecutors: Man Shot 45 Times by Best Friend Lived Through First 32 Shots

Best friend?
Are ya sure it wasn't the first 33?

Man falls 11 stories. Lives through the first 10.

330 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:03:12pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

Flying fish

Ron Paul! LOL

331 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:03:37pm

re: #303 Daisy

Sure there is always going to be unintended circumstances, and so maybe that it what it comes down to: Intent.

If say, the Terrorists had called and stated that they were going to blow up the wtc at this time, etc., and people decided not to leave....would you consider that the same as what happened on 9/11?

I wouldn't

332 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:04:01pm

re: #318 HoosierHoops

2 more hours Gak..then the 3day weekend..That means monday morning
when all the morning gang are here wishing they had baileys in thier coffee..
we can be doing the real thing...

Ah yes.

333 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:04:11pm

re: #327 Outrider

Thieves aren't the sharpest crayons in the box.

I remember back in the late 70s, someone stole an M60 tank at Fort Carson and headed through Colorado Springs with it. It was unarmed of course.

I knew a guy in high school who tried to steal a monkey from the Six Flags safari.

334 poopeedoo  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:04:11pm

re: #13 iowavette

Hilarious. How about accusing him of issuing fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel or Yosesite Sam. "I did not issue fatwa's on Heckel and Jeckel." Let's see, who else? "I did not issue a fatwa on Scooby Doo."

Lol!

335 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:04:50pm

re: #333 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I knew a guy in high school who tried to steal a monkey from the Six Flags safari.

Need a date for the prom did he? ;-)>

336 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:04:54pm

re: #328 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Also see: AirJelly (click the video link)

337 poopeedoo  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:06:01pm

re: #23 midwestgak

Trivia question. What type of birds where Heckel and Jeckel?

Magpies (if it hasn't already been said.)

338 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:06:03pm

re: #281 WrathofG-d

I hate to have this discussion as it will ultimately be used against me I am sure, but....

No. I disagree. If you target a building at a time when you know noone is going to be in it, I don't think it is the same as targeting a building when you know people are going to be in it.

Trouble is, people turn up at unexpected times and places. Terrorists don't give a damn about the "collateral damage". Broken eggs, omelets, and all that.

339 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:06:04pm

re: #331 WrathofG-d

During the Troubles in Northern Ireland the Brits and the IRA arranged a system whereby the IRA would call up before they set up a bomb and give a pre-arranged code so that the Brits could evacuate the area before the bomb went off. Was the IRA, then, not a terrorist group?

340 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:06:37pm

What kind of world do we live in where a fatwa can be issued for Mickey Mouse yet Spongebob gets a free pass?
oh the humanity!

341 tfc3rid  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:07:29pm

FYI and OT:

Sounds like Sean Hannity is going to have Chris Cuomo on his radio show... Not sure what time...

342 Catttt  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:07:53pm

OT

HUGE wow - flying pig thing.

I agree with Rep. Kucinich on something.

343 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:07:54pm

re: #318 HoosierHoops

2 more hours Gak..then the 3day weekend..That means monday morning
when all the morning gang are here wishing they had baileys in thier coffee..
we can be doing the real thing...

Actually, my Fridays end at 3:00 p.m. Pretty sweet.

344 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:07:56pm

re: #336 Killgore Trout

Also see: AirJelly (click the video link)

Gorgeous!
Now THAT is engineering!

345 superjan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:08:13pm

Who Cares, Mickey always was a irritating cocky little sod.

346 Racer X  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:08:26pm

re: #341 tfc3rid

FYI and OT:

Sounds like Sean Hannity is going to have Chris Cuomo on his radio show... Not sure what time...

Click "listen live"

347 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:08:42pm

re: #333 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I knew a guy in high school who tried to steal a monkey from the Six Flags safari.

On the subject of stupid, there was a guy in the 60's on the old diesel boats. Not sure if this story is true, but from the guys who knew him, it sure could be.

Guy's dad told him to put the old dog on the farm out of its misery. He wanted to make sure the dog didn't suffer, and didn't feel comfortable with his .22 rifle.

He figured the best and quickest way would be to tie a stick of the dynamite his dad had to blow tree stumps to the dog's tail. He did.

The hissing of the fuse scared the old dog so badly that it ran and hid under the dad's brand new pickup.

And that's how this guy ended up in the Navy.

348 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:08:50pm

Arabic is a magic language.

It can't be translated.

349 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #342 Catttt

got a link?

350 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:08pm

re: #342 Catttt

OT

HUGE wow - flying pig thing.

I agree with Rep. Kucinich on something.

I was thinking the same thing? I gotta have more to drink I think? I think?

351 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:09pm

re: #343 midwestgak

Actually, my Fridays end at 3:00 p.m. Pretty sweet.

don't tell anyone..But I'm sneaking out soon..ssshhhh!

352 Catttt  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:11pm

re: #343 midwestgak

Actually, my Fridays end at 3:00 p.m. Pretty sweet.

My Fridays are Thursdays. :D

353 Iron Fist  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:24pm

re: #333 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Was the monkey armed?

354 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:30pm

re: #341 tfc3rid

FYI and OT:

Sounds like Sean Hannity is going to have Chris Cuomo on his radio show... Not sure what time...

Hope he nails him for the Ayers' whitewash.

355 3 wood  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:33pm

The DOW has come back to 45 points up.

I suspect that the short sellers (Killian?) are dumping out of their positions for the weekend so they can get some sleep.

But I also look for the hammering of stocks to keep up next Monday.

And on the good news side, the New York Times set another 52 week low yesterday at $7.33 a share.

I will buy lunch for any local LGFr's when (notice I did not say "if") the NYT goes bankrupt.

That will be a day of celebration indeed.

356 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:40pm

re: #340 HoosierHoops

What kind of world do we live in where a fatwa can be issued for Mickey Mouse yet Spongebob gets a free pass?
oh the humanity!

Hell, if anyone deserves a Fatwa it would be Barney, that purple dinosaur. Rumor has it he is a spokesman for Discovery Institute.

357 Catttt  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:43pm

re: #349 yochanan

got a link?

He's on Fox talking to Shep about the bailout, and he's fricking making sense. Damn.

358 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:09:46pm
Hadith:
Volume 3, Book 29, Number 55:
Narrated Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said, "Five kinds of animals are harmful and could be killed in the Haram. These are: the crow, the kite, the scorpion, the mouse and the rabid dog."

Volume 7, Book 67, Number 446:
Narrated Maimuna:
A mouse fell into the butter-fat and died. The Prophet was asked about that. He said, "Throw away the mouse and the butter-fat that surrounded it, and eat the rest of the butter-fat (As-Samn).

Remind me to check the butter for signs of Mickey the next time we go out for Muslim food.//

359 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:10:02pm

re: #349 yochanan

got a link?

FOX

360 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:10:07pm

re: #353 Iron Fist

Was the monkey armed?

No. But he outwitted my friend.

361 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:10:19pm

re: #325 J.S.

The Government has a large interest in labeling anything that threatens their complete power as something as evil and illegal as "Terrorism", insofar that under that definition any actual acts against their complete power can be made "evil" and illegal. Furthermore, that definition alone makes all forms of warfare "Terrorism", as that is exactly the definition of War. (using violence to get the Government to do what you want)

I am only giving my definition, and that does not include blowing up pipelines, making verbal threats, or blowing up buildings with when you are sure that no one is in them.

If it is not your intent to purposefully target civilians, through guerrilla tactics, then its not "terrorism" where I am concerned.

362 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:10:31pm

re: #353 Iron Fist

Was the monkey armed?

Was the monkey the beerdrinking victory kind?

363 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:10:52pm

re: #339 joncelli

In the instances wherein they called 1st? No.

364 MandyManners  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:11:10pm

re: #353 Iron Fist

Was the monkey armed?

Yep.

365 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:11:17pm

re: #356 Outrider

Hell, if anyone deserves a Fatwa it would be Barney, that purple dinosaur. Rumor has it he is a spokesman for Discovery Institute.

And Michelle Obama was in part responsible for him getting on PBS.

366 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:11:17pm

re: #352 Catttt

My Fridays are Thursdays. :D

Rub it in. :)

367 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:11:30pm

what did he say?

368 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:11:33pm
369 calcajun  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:11:37pm

re: #2 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How does one execute a cartoon? A giant eraser?

Ain't ya never seen "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" You use "Dip".///

Of course, something was lost in translation. He meant Mighty Mouse, not Mickey. Might Mouse is a Zionist hero; Mickey was the creation of the anti-Zionist Disney!////

370 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:11:40pm
371 Catttt  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:12:02pm

re: #366 midwestgak

Rub it in. :)

And I have all next week off.

/kicks paws in air and laughs. :D

372 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:12:19pm

re: #347 subsailor68

On the subject of stupid, there was a guy in the 60's on the old diesel boats. Not sure if this story is true, but from the guys who knew him, it sure could be.

Guy's dad told him to put the old dog on the farm out of its misery. He wanted to make sure the dog didn't suffer, and didn't feel comfortable with his .22 rifle.

He figured the best and quickest way would be to tie a stick of the dynamite his dad had to blow tree stumps to the dog's tail. He did.

The hissing of the fuse scared the old dog so badly that it ran and hid under the dad's brand new pickup.

And that's how this guy ended up in the Navy.


Did you ever put styro cups in the sail before a dive?
real tiny little tea cups afterwards..pretty cool looking.

373 Outrider  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:12:19pm

re: #365 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And Michelle Obama was in part responsible for him getting on PBS.

ahhh the conspiracy tightens. Call Ron Paul.

374 Iron Fist  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:12:23pm

re: #364 MandyManners

I get a 403-Forbidden when I click your link. Wah

375 poopeedoo  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:08pm

re: #102 MandyManners

I always liked her more than the blonde.

Better than Fred? He was the blonde. Daphne was the red head. Velma kept losing her glasses ~ annoying!

376 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:10pm

The mullahs better watch out for Mighty Mouse!

377 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:13pm

re: #338 Son of the Black Dog

If the purpose is to kill innocent civilians through guerrilla tactics then that is terrorism.

If the near targeting of innocent civilians is "terrorism" then we were some major big time terrorists in WW2.

378 calcajun  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:15pm

re: #342 Catttt

OT

HUGE wow - flying pig thing.

I agree with Rep. Kucinich on something.

Quick, give me the aluminum foil! The black helicopter is firing gamma bursts at my brain!///

379 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:35pm

re: #372 HoosierHoops

Did you ever put styro cups in the sail before a dive?
real tiny little tea cups afterwards..pretty cool looking.

Nope, not that I recall. But there was a time when some moron left one of those official Navy coffee cups in the sail. Started bangin' around at just about the worst possible time.

;-)

380 Erik The Red  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:50pm

Good evening Lizards from a lovely spring evening in Durban S, Africa. Please help your selves to a wee...Dram

381 Wilderstad  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:54pm

re: #139 Jimmah

Can't remember exactly where it comes from - possibly a hadith - but there is a story that on the day of judgement, Allah will summon the artists before him and command them to bring their pictures to life...or else face an eternity in hell.

Evidently, Allah sees the drawing of pictures of living things as a threat to his creative monopoly. How a God could be so insecure must be another of those 'divine mysteries'...

Not to mention what a dope Allah was to give human beings the capacity create art in the first place. Islam seems to hate most forms of self expression and investigation.

382 Nevergiveup  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:13:58pm

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon said that Israel's response to the incessant firing of rockets from the Gaza Strip, in which crossings into the area were closed, is "unacceptable."

Yeah, well nevergiveup says up yours!

383 docremulac  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:14:08pm

M - I - C...
See ya on the ash heap of history islamofascist thugs...

K - E - Y...
Why? Because America's gonna put you there...

M - O - U- S - E

384 Iron Fist  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:14:13pm

re: #378 calcajun

if you can see the Black Helicopters, it is already too late for you.

385 tfc3rid  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:15:03pm

re: #370 ploome hineni

Hannity isn;t intelligent enough

he is a recording

That's exactly what he is showing in his summary of the interview... Cuomo did a decent job...

386 Cato the Elder  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:15:12pm

Iran's Great Leader said it best:

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious." -- Ayatollah Khomeini

Every other religion I know of preaches joy of some kind. Simcha Torah, the joy of the Lord, Dionysus and his wine, the shaman's trance, the Beatific Vision, Nirvana, redemption, the Oceanic Feeling, even Nietzsche's Zarathustra - all full of joy in life or the hereafter.

Islam alone makes its adherents gloomy and full of fear. There is no guarantee of any kind of salvation from Allah. Mahomet himself said he didn't know what Allah would do with him when he died.

Sadness and fear lead to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to violence.

Violence leads to terror.

Terror leads to recognition.

We recognize you, Moslems, and your religion for what you are and what it is. And one of our reactions is laughter. There will be more cartoons to come. Maybe one day even Disney will get wise and bring out a feature like, say, "Goofy and the Imam".

Set your emotions to maximum seethe level and stay there. Maybe you'll burst with indignation and save us all a lot of trouble.

387 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:15:18pm

re: #364 MandyManners

Yep.

"Look at those suckers on dry land with their 'laws' & 'ethics.' They'll never know the simple joys of a monkey knife fight."
/Homer Simpson

388 calcajun  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:15:27pm

re: #377 WrathofG-d

If the purpose is to kill innocent civilians through guerrilla tactics then that is terrorism.

If the near targeting of innocent civilians is "terrorism" then we were some major big time terrorists in WW2.

Ah, but they were not "innocent". They were factory workers and otherwise giving support to the war economy of their respective nations. In that sense, they were considered to be legitimate military targets.

389 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:15:31pm

re: #380 Erik The Red

ehhh howzit china? Laka bru!

390 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:15:42pm

re: #331 WrathofG-d

Sure there is always going to be unintended circumstances, and so maybe that it what it comes down to: Intent.

If say, the Terrorists had called and stated that they were going to blow up the wtc at this time, etc., and people decided not to leave....would you consider that the same as what happened on 9/11?

I wouldn't

Wrath, I'd sure consider it in the same dirty ballpark of intentionality. I do recall there was some fallout w/in Al Quaeda over this issue. Some of the thugs thought it was unfair that the infidels were not given fair notice (issued an invitation to revert to Islam before being murdered). Bin Ladin didn't have any such 'scruples'.

If you are asking if there is ever a time and place to destroy property in the name of freedom, I'd have to say yes, there is. (Boston Tea Party, for instance). Since Ayers intention was not ever towards freedom (any more than Bin Ladin's intent), that's where I'd draw the line. Blowing stuff up in order to impose totalitarian rule is out. In fact, doing anything to impose totalitarianism is out.

391 Crusty  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:16:07pm

Saudi clerics like to have sex with Mickey Mouse's friend.

In other words, they're all fuckin' Goofy!

392 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:16:11pm

re: #371 Catttt

And I have all next week off.

/kicks paws in air and laughs. :D


Well we should issue a fatwa on your vacation..
/

393 calcajun  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:16:21pm

re: #384 Iron Fist

if you can see the Black Helicopters, it is already too late for you.

Have you notice that cattle mutilations have gone up since the election? Coincidence, I think not.//

394 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:16:31pm

re: #384 Iron Fist

if you can see the Black Helicopters, it is already too late for you.

Those who deny the existence of Black Helicopters may in fact be Black Helicopters themselves.

395 jcm  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:16:44pm

re: #379 subsailor68

Nope, not that I recall. But there was a time when some moron left one of those official Navy coffee cups in the sail. Started bangin' around at just about the worst possible time.

;-)

Up at Bangor across the Hood Canal is a sound range in Dabob Bay, the Ohio's take a run down the range before heading out. it picks up bad bearings, unsecured gear and the location in the boat.

396 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:16:56pm
397 Erik The Red  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:17:10pm

re: #389 WrathofG-d

ehhh howzit china? Laka bru!

Not to bad spelling needs some work but i understand Bru Lekker

398 jcm  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:17:21pm

re: #384 Iron Fist

if you can see the Black Helicopters, it is already too late for you.

They not black on the inside, still just Army green......

399 gop_patriot  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:17:24pm

re: #360 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No. But he outwitted my friend.

So that's how you got your nickname, is it?

LOL

400 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:17:40pm
401 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:17:51pm

re: #379 subsailor68

Nope, not that I recall. But there was a time when some moron left one of those official Navy coffee cups in the sail. Started bangin' around at just about the worst possible time.

;-)

whoops..major sound short!

402 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:17:57pm

re: #388 calcajun

ugh. You guys are turning me into a moonbat here. *sigh*

Well by that definition all the people in the Twin Towers were too, as they were fueling the economy of the evil American war machine.

Or if you prefer "Little Eichmans" (I think what you stated before was exactly Ward Churchill's argument on behalf of Osama Bin Laden against those in the Twin Towers.)

403 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:18:11pm

re: #377 WrathofG-d

If the near targeting of innocent civilians is "terrorism" then we were some major big time terrorists in WW2.

No.

We never targeted civilians. We targeted other things knowing and accepting that civilians would be around. For example a bridge with civilian houses all around. A city with wartime importance. Factories full of civilians. Military columns going down roads surrounded by civilian refugees.

404 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:19:01pm

re: #391 Crusty

Saudi clerics like to have sex with Mickey Mouse's friend.

In other words, they're all fuckin' Goofy!

Poor Goofy. I'm calling the humane society, pronto.

405 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:19:34pm

OT:
The last gasp of OPEC. They're desperate. They are going to suggest massive cuts in oil production to keep prices above $50.

If that fails, OPEC may be toast.

406 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:20:06pm

Adjust your Friday meds, Wrath.

407 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:20:13pm

re: #402 WrathofG-d

They were not engaged directly in war-related production. No state of war existed. Those who actually perpetrated the crime -- as opposed to those who later justified it -- simply defined those in the building as legitimate targets based on their own definition.

408 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:20:24pm

re: #395 jcm

Up at Bangor across the Hood Canal is a sound range in Dabob Bay, the Ohio's take a run down the range before heading out. it picks up bad bearings, unsecured gear and the location in the boat.

To give ya an idea of how old I am, when we went to Bangor for sound trials, there was just one old wooden pier. That was all.

But, great times in Bremerton, and of course Seattle, back then.

409 razorbacker  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:20:28pm

'Cause somebody has to say it...

No one wants to be the last soldier to die in a failed war to save Mickey Mouse.

410 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:20:39pm

re: #403 Silhouette

No.

We never targeted civilians. We targeted other things knowing and accepting that civilians would be around. For example a bridge with civilian houses all around. A city with wartime importance. Factories full of civilians. Military columns going down roads surrounded by civilian refugees.

Not to mention that the laws of war recognize that there is a difference between a uniformed serviceman acting under orders of his government (war) & a civilian taking matters into his own hands (terrorism).

411 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:20:43pm

re: #377 WrathofG-d

If the purpose is to kill innocent civilians through guerrilla tactics then that is terrorism.

If the near targeting of innocent civilians is "terrorism" then we were some major big time terrorists in WW2.

I think your comment is offensive to the veterans, and the memory, of the USAAF and the RAF.

412 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:21:09pm

re: #403 Silhouette

No.

We never targeted civilians. We targeted other things knowing and accepting that civilians would be around. For example a bridge with civilian houses all around. A city with wartime importance. Factories full of civilians. Military columns going down roads surrounded by civilian refugees.

Didn't we bomb the hell out of Berlin? I'm not arguing, just trying to understand.

413 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:21:19pm

re: #390 Daisy

Overall, if you are looking to label Ayers something horrible, and which he deserves, I use the term TRAITOR!

There are no arguments against that I am sure (none reasonable at least)

If he was a "terrorist" or not is debatable if he didn't intend to kill people. This I believe is a lie however, as he has on numerous occasions in his writings stated that killing Americans was exactly his goal.

Without a doubt however, Ayers & Co. were TREASONISTS!TM

414 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:22:06pm

re: #401 HoosierHoops

whoops..major sound short!

Yep. And I was a sonar tech.

415 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:22:36pm

Regarding the U-2. It's Air Force week.

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

416 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:22:39pm

re: #412 midwestgak

Didn't we bomb the hell out of Berlin? I'm not arguing, just trying to understand.

I said "A city of wartime importance."

417 joncelli  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:22:49pm

re: #413 WrathofG-d

So are you trying to carve out a set of violent acts that would be described as something short of terrorism because they didn't kill people but did destroy property?

418 J.S.  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:23:13pm

re: #361 WrathofG-d

"Terrorism" is NOT the definition of war! Don't be ridiculous. Been reading too many Moonbats? (Here's a big surprise -- if you are in a state of actual war -- and you see "the enemy" -- the whole intent is not "kill" -- it's to disable or paralyze the enemy.) Let's not conflate things here, please.

419 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:23:43pm

re: #408 subsailor68

To give ya an idea of how old I am, when we went to Bangor for sound trials, there was just one old wooden pier. That was all.

But, great times in Bremerton, and of course Seattle, back then.

let's not forget Mare Island..The first Navy base on the west coast.

420 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:23:46pm

re: #377 WrathofG-d

If the purpose is to kill innocent civilians through guerrilla tactics then that is terrorism.

If the near targeting of innocent civilians is "terrorism" then we were some major big time terrorists in WW2.

There is a HUGE difference between wearing a uniform and acting at the direction of the state - even that has 'rules' - and hiding behind the cloak of being a civilian.

421 jcm  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:24:14pm

re: #403 Silhouette

No.

We never targeted civilians. We targeted other things knowing and accepting that civilians would be around. For example a bridge with civilian houses all around. A city with wartime importance. Factories full of civilians. Military columns going down roads surrounded by civilian refugees.

Dresden? Toyko? We determined in the case of Germany and Japan that the entire population was part of the enemies war effort. Working in factories, in general supportive of the enemies war effort.

Total War, against an entire country and it's population.

422 midwestgak  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:24:26pm

re: #415 Pvt Bin Jammin

Regarding the U-2. It's Air Force week.

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

Excellent job. Now we won't be wondering all weekend. Updinged ya.

423 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:24:40pm

re: #419 HoosierHoops

let's not forget Mare Island..The first Navy base on the west coast.

I lived in Vallejo for two years while our boat was being build at Mare Island. I have a soft spot in my heart for the old shipyard, which I understand is now a museum.

424 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:25:10pm

re: #415 Pvt Bin Jammin

Regarding the U-2. It's Air Force week.

[Link: www.pasadenastarnews.com...]

What is it, like 12:30 in California? I'm surprised the Air Force is up by now.
/I kid, I kid

425 nyc redneck  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:25:14pm

this joker is now going on the record to say, NO, he did not want mickey mouse dead. LOL
(a grown man clarifying a fatwa on a cartoon character)
unbelievable.
and we deal w/ these s.o.b's like we're dealing w/ human beings capable of rational thought.
that is our first problem in confronting the subject of islam.

426 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:25:21pm

re: #403 Silhouette

Ok, that is just something we are going to have to disagree about. Dropping a nuclear bomb on a town with some military value as a port is not much better different as far as I'm concerned then attacking the WTC which has major economic value.

427 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:25:51pm

re: #406 Ben Hur

Waiting till sundown.

428 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:26:10pm

re: #422 midwestgak

Excellent job. Now we won't be wondering all weekend. Updinged ya.

Sounds like it would be fun to go down for the celebration.

Very weird that they didn't tell some of the police agencies, however.

429 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:26:12pm

re: #421 jcm

Dresden? Toyko?

Again, I said, "A city with wartime importance.

There was enough wartime production and planning going on in these cities to justify bombing.

430 jcm  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:26:34pm

re: #408 subsailor68

To give ya an idea of how old I am, when we went to Bangor for sound trials, there was just one old wooden pier. That was all.

But, great times in Bremerton, and of course Seattle, back then.

Now that have the big enclosed dock, big enough for an Ohio, close the doors behind it. High enough to lift a Trident out of the tube.

Few years back, they banged a Trident against something, the Base Commanders, the Officer in charge of the special weapons and several others got relived.

431 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:26:36pm

re: #250 Pvt Bin Jammin

What the heck was that all about? I didn't see it but my hubby did. I have the police scanner on for Pasadena and they are getting multiple reports of two military jets and a U-2. The cops don't know what's going on either.

Maybe one of the aliens is making a break from Area 51.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all the remaining U2s in museums, and thoroughly accounted for? It's not like there ever were a great many of them, anyway.

432 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:27:27pm

re: #424 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL I'll second that on behalf of my USMC family.

433 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:27:49pm

re: #426 WrathofG-d

Ok, that is just something we are going to have to disagree about. Dropping a nuclear bomb on a town with some military value as a port is not much better different as far as I'm concerned then attacking the WTC which has major economic value.

So after Pearl Harbor we committed terrorist acts of war?
I'm not following you..

434 subsailor68  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:28:18pm

re: #430 jcm

Now that have the big enclosed dock, big enough for an Ohio, close the doors behind it. High enough to lift a Trident out of the tube.

Few years back, they banged a Trident against something, the Base Commanders, the Officer in charge of the special weapons and several others got relived.

I've heard the base is huge now (compared to then). We'd get off the boat at the old wooden pier, hop in those old gray Navy trucks, and it would be nothing but wilderness all the way to the gate. It'd be fun to see how it's changed.

435 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:28:25pm

re: #377 WrathofG-d

If the purpose is to kill innocent civilians through guerrilla tactics then that is terrorism.

If the near targeting of innocent civilians is "terrorism" then we were some major big time terrorists in WW2.

The bombing of Rotterdam was terrorism. The bombing of Coventry was terrorism, as was the London blitz. Also the Battan Death March and the treatment of allied prisoners after the fall of Singapore and the Dutch East Indies. The Axis set the rules. We played the game by their rules. We played the game a little better.

436 Iron Fist  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:28:26pm

re: #426 WrathofG-d

That's a pretty sweeping statement. So you are saying what, exactly? That America shouldn't have beaten Japan in WWII?

437 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:28:42pm

re: #431 Alberta Oil Peon

Maybe one of the aliens is making a break from Area 51.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all the remaining U2s in museums, and thoroughly accounted for? It's not like there ever were a great many of them, anyway.

They're still in service, with no plans to retire them. It's a very useful airplane.

438 Daisy  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:28:53pm

re: #413 WrathofG-d

Overall, if you are looking to label Ayers something horrible, and which he deserves, I use the term TRAITOR!

There are no arguments against that I am sure (none reasonable at least)

If he was a "terrorist" or not is debatable if he didn't intend to kill people. This I believe is a lie however, as he has on numerous occasions in his writings stated that killing Americans was exactly his goal.

Without a doubt however, Ayers & Co. were TREASONISTS!TM

Without a doubt. I'd also call him a murderer (with intent to become a mass murderer) And he's a Communist. Heck, I've already called him a Psychopath .. the only thing I haven't called him his a spoiled brat, which is also is. The 'terrorist' label does have some inherent difficulties.

I imagine your family must have very interesting discussions around the dinner table. Someone clearly taught you that thinking was a good activity to engage in!

439 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:29:29pm

re: #403 Silhouette

No.

We never targeted civilians. We targeted other things knowing and accepting that civilians would be around. For example a bridge with civilian houses all around. A city with wartime importance. Factories full of civilians. Military columns going down roads surrounded by civilian refugees.

The possible exception - IMO - was Dresden. I've hears some convincing arguments that it was sheer retribution for the London bombings. Not saying myself one way or the other - just that I'm not sure of that one. But even there an inquiry conducted at the behest of U.S. Army Chief of Staff, General George C. Marshall, stated the raid was justified by the available intelligence to avoid its use as a regrouping point.

440 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:29:45pm

re: #431 Alberta Oil Peon

I thought they were in mothballs too.

See my #415. The news article said it "appeared" to be a U-2 but maybe it was something similar looking.

441 yochanan  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:30:04pm

re: #416 Silhouette

not enough my only regret about dropping the atom bomb berlin did not get one

442 J.S.  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:30:04pm

re: #436 Iron Fist

Oh, no! Why he's suggesting that Americans in WWII were terrorists, of course.

443 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:30:44pm

re: #417 joncelli

re: #418 J.S.

re: #420 DeafDog

Ok, you want my "brass tax"? I don't think we should be fighting a war on "terrorism". I think that it is stupid to target an method of warfare, and not the basic fact that they attacked us, and threaten our security.

We would be best served fighting against those who hold a certain idiology, not the manner in which they attack us. Are we trying to say that there IS a good way to attack our Country, but "Terrorism" just isn't it?

Sure attacking military personnel is morally better than attacking innocent civilians, but is this really what we want to concentrate on?

Attacking civilians in war is standard practice. Ever since we left "organized" battlefield warfare this has been the case. The Allies bombed the _____ out of Europe, and Germany.

I don't blame Terrorists for being Terrorists, I just do what I must to protect myself, my country, and my family. It is Islamic Fascist/Imperialism that I fear....not their method.

I'm simple like that.

444 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:31:44pm

re: #426 WrathofG-d

Ok, that is just something we are going to have to disagree about. Dropping a nuclear bomb on a town with some military value as a port is not much better different as far as I'm concerned then attacking the WTC which has major economic value.

We had formally declared war against the country. We are a recognized state, a free state for that matter with checks and balances on military action, and a military controlled by the people. So not a rogue band of jihadists with an axe to grind.

Not to mention ours was an act carried out to end a war. Which it did.

And there was more to Hiroshima that a port. Hiroshima was HQ to the Japanese Second Army.

We ARE going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

445 bellamags  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:32:05pm

re: #177 Charles

No bias at ABC News. None at all.

Campaign Boogeyman William Ayers Talks to ‘GMA’.

"Boogeyman" is a technical journalistic term, of course.

I give some credit to the interviewer. He brought up some good points. He actually brought up the "if John McCain had done it" parallel.

Bill Ayers is a fking hypocrite and an idiot, who, as I said on the first thread, is educated well beyond his intelligence.

446 jcm  Fri, Nov 14, 2008 12:32:19pm

re: #434 subsailor68

I've heard the base is huge now (compared to then). We'd get off the boat at the old wooden pier, hop in those old gray Navy trucks, and it would be nothing but wilderness all the way to the gate. It'd be fun to see how it's changed.

Being a boomer base with special weapons, it's closed to civies