Silicon Valley and Hollywood elites create platform for "religious harmony".

I foresee "blasphemy bans".

The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful

*SNIFF* Ahhh, that new thread smell...heavenly.

Believe it or don’t, it’s another open thread...

Belief is not required, compliance is

Supposed to be raining here in DC, the theme park for nitwits. But not yet.

Open thread already. That's a lot of responsibility. :p

Any Lizards in Cali affected by the fire?

re: #4 FurryOldGuyJeans

Belief is not required, compliance is

Belief is irrelevant. Reality is real.

The sun peaked its head out here in D.C. while the G20 are meeting. Pretty warm actually in the high 60's.

re: #6 kynna

Open thread already. That's a lot of responsibility. :p

Any Lizards in Cali affected by the fire?

According to the MSM only the Hollywood elites are being effected.

8 o'clock kickoff. 34 degrees, windy, and raining. Oh joy.

I don't believe it.

What evidence do you to support that assertion?

re: #11 jcm

I don't believe it. What evidence do you to support that assertion?

It all depend on what "open" really means! Ask Clinton.

Welcome to PHX, Kidnapping Capital of the USA

re: #11 jcm

I don't believe it.

What evidence do you to support that assertion?

Evidence is so 20th century. Now we have the Messiah.

Some saturday morning Grisman

Richardson is apparently being considered for Sec. of State. Unless it's Ralph Richardson I fail to see what's so changey about this coming administration.
It seems to be comprised of the same old hacks, worn retreads, and people we hoped we'd never see again. Besides those dubious resumes, they seem to have one character trait in common--they all think very highly of themselves.

India celebrates planting its flag on moon...

"Thank you, come again".

re: #16 jemima

Richardson is apparently being considered for Sec. of State. Unless it's Ralph Richardson I fail to see what's so changey about this coming administration.
It seems to be comprised of the same old hacks, worn retreads, and people we hoped we'd never see again. Besides those dubious resumes, they seem to have one character trait in common--they all think very highly of themselves.

Birds of a feather, flock together

re: #16 jemima

Richardson is apparently being considered for Sec. of State. Unless it's Ralph Richardson I fail to see what's so changey about this coming administration.
It seems to be comprised of the same old hacks, worn retreads, and people we hoped we'd never see again. Besides those dubious resumes, they seem to have one character trait in common--they all think very highly of themselves.

The arrogance of the left is just astounding, isn't it?

Chrysler to pay Millions in bonuses, while asking for my tax dollars to bail them out

There is just something wrong with rewarding execs who ruin companies, then get large bonuses.
People all over Detroit are hosed. It's a mess.

I'd like to see just one exec. Just one give his bonus back.

Reposting, just in case anyone can help...
I'm looking for a little help, lizards. Can anyone provide a link about the subject of Islamist radicals not wearing ties because they are considered a Christian/Crusader symbol? Remember when Admandinejad released the Brit navy hostages some months back, he gave them suits to wear but no ties? He doesn't wear a tie with his suits either. I googled but didn't come up with anything. Thanks in advance if you can help.

MM

re: #9 FurryOldGuyJeans

According to the MSM only the Hollywood elites are being effected.

Well, that's all they care about. But I know there are other people who exist out there. They may not shine as brightly, but fire can burn their homes, too.

Urgh. You made me think about the MSM. I loathe them.

re: #16 jemima

Richardson is apparently being considered for Sec. of State. Unless it's Ralph Richardson I fail to see what's so changey about this coming administration.
It seems to be comprised of the same old hacks, worn retreads, and people we hoped we'd never see again. Besides those dubious resumes, they seem to have one character trait in common--they all think very highly of themselves.

Maybe they are talking about Pooh Richardson?

#19

And they all think very highly of each other which is all so...comradely. We, on the other hand, are considered to be bums and uneducated nitwits.

re: #16 jemima

Lobbyists in key positions in Team Obama transition team

The HopenChange thing was just an election slogan. A lot of people are going to be surprised when they figure that out.

IN the long run india will pass china in importance because they have a strong belief in rule of law and political freedom.

re: #19 Bubbaman

The arrogance of the left is just astounding, isn't it?

It's staggering. It's being based in stupidity makes it all the more insufferable.

re: #13 Desert Dog

Welcome to PHX, Kidnapping Capital of the USA

Gee, something else to worry about, how special.

re: #21 Meremortal

Q 3. A colleague suggests that necktie is a sign of the Christian cross. Therefore, a Muslim should avoid wearing it. Is there any truth in this? Please enlighten.

re: #16 jemima

Richardson is apparently being considered for Sec. of State. Unless it's Ralph Richardson I fail to see what's so changey about this coming administration.
It seems to be comprised of the same old hacks, worn retreads, and people we hoped we'd never see again. Besides those dubious resumes, they seem to have one character trait in common--they all think very highly of themselves.

I heard he was going topick Hilary. Other than that, you're right - it's the Clinton regime part deux.

We're under a tornado watch. In Washington DC. In November. Weirod.

re: #15 Syrah

Some saturday morning Grisman

That was nice...I saw him years ago at Red Rocks in Denver...Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, David Grisman, Tim Weisberg...It is always nice to listen to a person that has mastered their instrument...thank you!

Charles, and other LA residents, you ok there with all the fires going on?

re: #23 freedombilly

Maybe they are talking about Pooh Richardson?

Maybe they're thinking of Natasha Richardson. Her mother hated Israel and was proud of that fact. Perhaps that is seen to fit right in with this administration.

re: #13 Desert Dog

Welcome to PHX, Kidnapping Capital of the USA

Weren't Mexican drug cartel thugs responsible for the kidnapping of that little boy in Vegas a few weeks ago?

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Lobbyists in key positions in Team Obama transition team

The HopenChange thing was just an election slogan. A lot of people are going to be surprised when they figure that out.

I don't think the hopechange voters will be surprised at all. I don't think that they will even really care.

The Hopechange voters only wanted to change the Party of the Presidency. Everything else that comes of that is just so much noise in the wind to them.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Q 3. A colleague suggests that necktie is a sign of the Christian cross. Therefore, a Muslim should avoid wearing it. Is there any truth in this? Please enlighten.

Everything I've seen is that the necktie is seen as Western, not necessarily Christian. And it's the westerness that shunned.

re: #34 jemima

If not Pooh Richardson, maybe Deuce McAllister?

Sorry...

re: #16 jemima

For all the rhetoric of change Obama has been one of the most political insider Presidents ever. From the choice of Biden it has been one example of old school politics after another.

re: #19 Bubbaman

And to think I didn't believe the Clintons were getting back into the executive office before the election... it looks like it is quickly turning into Clinton Administration II with a new and improved criticism proof figurehead...

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Lobbyists in key positions in Team Obama transition team

The HopenChange thing was just an election slogan. A lot of people are going to be surprised when they figure that out.

From the election results, I'm guessing a lot of people won't notice.

re: #32 Desert Dog

That was nice...I saw him years ago at Red Rocks in Denver...Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, David Grisman, Tim Weisberg...It is always nice to listen to a person that has mastered their instrument...thank you!

I'm playing his Dawgwood album. Its a nice way to start a lazy Saturday morning.

re: #31 occasional reader

We're under a tornado watch. In Washington DC. In November. Weirod.

We are? That didn't make it into my forecast. No problem - I'd have ignored it anyway. They only hit Maryland.

re: #32 Desert Dog

That was nice...I saw him years ago at Red Rocks in Denver...Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, David Grisman, Tim Weisberg...It is always nice to listen to a person that has mastered their instrument...thank you!

Is that not one of the greatest places on the planet to experience live music? Wow!

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Lobbyists in key positions in Team Obama transition team

The HopenChange thing was just an election slogan. A lot of people are going to be surprised when they figure that out.

Buyer's Remorse sure won't be uncommon once Obama started having to actually do something and like make decisions instead of just being present.

A startled Europe asks, 'Could Obama happen here?' ...Answer: No
by Doug Saunders

Europeans expected the election of Barack Obama to change the way they related to the United States. What they didn't realize was how much it would turn their own worlds upside down.

The election across the Atlantic has acted like a grenade tossed into their own camps: For the past 10 days, almost from the moment the president-elect took to the stage in Chicago, the people of European countries have turned against their political systems in an unprecedented wave of self-recrimination.

How can it be, they ask, that the most powerful man in the world is the son of an immigrant from Africa, has Hussein for a middle name and worked his way up from nothing - all qualities that are shared by many Europeans today but do not exist in a single major party leader among the 27 European Union countries?

One good thing about the election of Obama: Europeans can now stuff their smug condescension.

re: #43 vapig

We are? That didn't make it into my forecast. No problem - I'd have ignored it anyway. They only hit Maryland.

Maybe just not my section of Maryland, okay?

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Excellent, thank you. Interesting quote from the link:

"Similarly there is nothing un-Islamic about neckties unless they are of pure silk. Although there are some jurists who do not consider it Haram to have a small amount of silk or a small amount of silken material in men's clothing, it is still better to avoid pure silken ties, in obedience to the Prophet -peace be upon him- who told us that men should not wear gold and silk."

re: #39 FurryOldGuyJeans

For all the rhetoric of change Obama has been one of the most political insider Presidents ever. From the choice of Biden it has been one example of old school politics after another.

The change is now the right people are controlling the whip hand, I mean to say in power. Biden was never in a position of power. Rahm Emanuel wasn't powerful enough, he should have stabbed the table with complete control instead of just reckless abandon.

re: #31 occasional reader

We're under a tornado watch. In Washington DC. In November. Weirod.

Crazy. It's 46 and cloudy here in Central Arkansas.

re: #21 Meremortal

Reposting, just in case anyone can help...
I'm looking for a little help, lizards. Can anyone provide a link about the subject of Islamist radicals not wearing ties because they are considered a Christian/Crusader symbol? Remember when Admandinejad released the Brit navy hostages some months back, he gave them suits to wear but no ties? He doesn't wear a tie with his suits either. I googled but didn't come up with anything. Thanks in advance if you can help.

MM

[Link: path-to-peace.com...]

I'm still investing in open threads, value just keeps going up n' up...

re: #46 Kenneth

A startled Europe asks, 'Could Obama happen here?' ...Answer: No
by Doug Saunders

One good thing about the election of Obama: Europeans can now stuff their smug condescension.

If the Obama presidency is not anything even close to being the hype the Europeans will have even more reason to be smug since they wouldn't elect a loser.

re: #45 FurryOldGuyJeans

Buyer's Remorse sure won't be uncommon once Obama started having to actually do something and like make decisions instead of just being present.

I wouldn't *hope* for buyer's remorse. Psychology works against us there. People will defend their stupid choices to the death instead of simply admitting they were wrong.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Thank you!

re: #35 MandyManners

Weren't Mexican drug cartel thugs responsible for the kidnapping of that little boy in Vegas a few weeks ago?

Yep, and I would look for this activity to start spreading all over the USA. Get ready wherever you live...

Most of this is Mexican on Mexican crime...the "coyotes" and gangsters preying on illegal aliens. But, it is not exclusively limited to that now...Mexican Drug Cartels are a powerful force the USA has to deal with now...before it gets even worse.

re: #55 jemima

I wouldn't *hope* for buyer's remorse. Psychology works against us there. People will defend their stupid choices to the death instead of simply admitting they were wrong.

But, the cognitive dissonance might tear them up inside.

re: #57 Desert Dog

Yep, and I would look for this activity to start spreading all over the USA. Get ready wherever you live...

Most of this is Mexican on Mexican crime...the "coyotes" and gangsters preying on illegal aliens. But, it is not exclusively limited to that now...Mexican Drug Cartels are a powerful force the USA has to deal with now...before it gets even worse.

With CBBHO at the helm, we're fucked.

re: #37 jcm

Everything I've seen is that the necktie is seen as Western, not necessarily Christian. And it's the westerness that shunned.

Actually, the original necktie, the cravat, came from Croatia by way of France.

And some clergy will not allow their acolytes to wear neckties at the altar, because of its similarity to a noose.

re: #47 freedombilly

Maybe just not my section of Maryland, okay?

No problem. You know you really need to leave the Peoples Republic and head for a free state.

GM needs to fail.

It's time. No public bailout for union bloat. no more.
Call you congress person.

re: #57 Desert Dog

Yep, and I would look for this activity to start spreading all over the USA. Get ready wherever you live...

Most of this is Mexican on Mexican crime...the "coyotes" and gangsters preying on illegal aliens. But, it is not exclusively limited to that now...Mexican Drug Cartels are a powerful force the USA has to deal with now...before it gets even worse.

Don't worry. Rahm's hugh school and college volunteers will protect us

your

re: #58 MandyManners

But, the cognitive dissonance might tear them up inside.

Would it be mean of me to whisper softly "yea!"?

If so, I can live with it.

re: #57 Desert Dog

Yep, and I would look for this activity to start spreading all over the USA. Get ready wherever you live...

Most of this is Mexican on Mexican crime...the "coyotes" and gangsters preying on illegal aliens. But, it is not exclusively limited to that now...Mexican Drug Cartels are a powerful force the USA has to deal with now...before it gets even worse.

Which state's supreme court recently banned the use of "illegal alien" and its synonyms? Arizona or New Mexico?

re: #55 jemima

I wouldn't *hope* for buyer's remorse. Psychology works against us there. People will defend their stupid choices to the death instead of simply admitting they were wrong.

When people's pocketbooks get picked even more there will be enough willing to admit making a mistake.

re: #51 Walter L. Newton

Thank you, that seals it.

re: #45 FurryOldGuyJeans

Buyer's Remorse sure won't be uncommon once Obama started having to actually do something and like make decisions instead of just being present.

Prediction - Obama will largely adopt the Bush position on the big issues like taxes and Iraq (he'll do that or he will fail). In time, folks will take note.

I posted this last night...

A chilling look into NorKo.

Escapee of North Korea's brutal prison camp tells his horrifying story

19 minutes. He escaped for one reason, he knew nothing of freedom, he was looking for food.

re: #66 jemima

Would it be mean of me to whisper softly "yea!"?

If so, I can live with it.

I'll dance a little jig.

re: #68 FurryOldGuyJeans

When people's pocketbooks get picked even more there will be enough willing to admit making a mistake.

Not if it's picked in the name of White Guilt.

re: #60 victor_yugo

Actually, the original necktie, the cravat, came from Croatia by way of France.

And some clergy will not allow their acolytes to wear neckties at the altar, because of its similarity to a noose.

Well if the Fwench had anything to do with it, I'm not wearing 'em either!

re: #67 MandyManners

Which state's supreme court recently banned the use of "illegal alien" and its synonyms? Arizona or New Mexico?

No no, not to worry. I heard it explained on the radio. It was a letter sent by an attorney and it had to be recorded but apparently the judge's reaction was something like "You're kidding, right?" Not going to happen.

re: #46 Kenneth

A startled Europe asks, 'Could Obama happen here?' ...Answer: No
by Doug Saunders

One good thing about the election of Obama: Europeans can now stuff their smug condescension.

Do you think France would elect a candidate of Black or African ethnicity? No way! And, neither would the Germans, Dutch or any other European country. The only place I could it see it happening is the the UK. But, the UK has slowly becoming more of a mixed society. With current birth rates of the Europeans compared to the newly arrived ethnic groups there...I would start integrating now, before you get out voted in your own countries.

re: #54 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh the Europeans have elected many, many losers. They have also bowed down to a few false messiahs in their time.

re: #61 ploome hineni

the American electorate was voting for American Idol

they will regret this prsident soon

Only if he tries to fulfill his campaign promises. Let's face it, the guy is an empty suit. We have no idea how he'll actually govern.

"Toto, I don't think we're in DC anymore"

re: #77 Kenneth

Oh the Europeans have elected many, many losers. They have also bowed down to a few false messiahs in their time.

But not one like Obama if he stays true to form with his Marxist policies.

re: #78 Deafdog

Only if he tries to fulfill his campaign promises. Let's face it, the guy is an empty suit. We have no idea how he'll actually govern.

Voting present is not longer an option.

re: #71 jcm

I posted this last night...

A chilling look into NorKo.

Escapee of North Korea's brutal prison camp tells his horrifying story

19 minutes. He escaped for one reason, he knew nothing of freedom, he was looking for food.

As a reward for good behavior, they were selected for marriage and put in the same cell for five days?

That's one evil system.

re: #76 Desert Dog

Read the article. An Afro-British politician remarked that while the general public might elect a black or asian PM, if they had the chance, the power elites would never allow such a person the opportunity.

re: #63 FrogMarch

GM needs to fail.

It's time. No public bailout for union bloat. no more.
Call you congress person.

Another good article: Let GM Fail!

There's also a good ending thought in this article:

Postscript: This is funny:

Automakers say bankruptcy protection is not an option because people would be reluctant to make long-term car and truck purchases from companies that might not last the life of their vehicles.

I think if people still buy tickets on airlines that are operating out of chapter 11 (an item that has zero value if the company folds) then people will still buy cars. This is so totally lame it is tremendously irritating.

re: #75 jemima

No no, not to worry. I heard it explained on the radio. It was a letter sent by an attorney and it had to be recorded but apparently the judge's reaction was something like "You're kidding, right?" Not going to happen.

I hate to doubt the word of a fellow Lizard but, I heard that the state supreme court issued a ruling.

re: #20 Shug

Chrysler to pay Millions in bonuses, while asking for my tax dollars to bail them out

There is just something wrong with rewarding execs who ruin companies, then get large bonuses.
People all over Detroit are hosed. It's a mess.

I'd like to see just one exec. Just one give his bonus back.

IIRC, Lee Iacocca worked for a dollar a year during the Chrysler turn around in the 1970's. His income was entirely contingent on the recovery of Chrysler's stock price. Also, the US Government bailout of Chrysler was simply a loan guarantee. The government didn't have to actually put up any money. The government, however, did get warrants to purchase Chrysler stock at a very low price, which the government sold back to Chrysler for a hefty profit. Now that's the way to run a bailout.

Obama is scary enough of his own but now that his enablers (Pelosi, Reid, Schumer et al) are in place and rubbing their hands in anticipation, it's going to be a lot worse than if there were some checks and balances on the process.

re: #80 FurryOldGuyJeans

Various European countries have elected Socialists and Marxists, many times over.

re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans

Voting present is not longer an option.

I think there's a presidential equivalent. It's the fine art of doing nothing at all about a particular issue. A practice that was a cornerstone of the Clinton administration's foreign policy.

re: #82 MandyManners

As a reward for good behavior, they were selected for marriage and put in the same cell for five days?

That's one evil system.

Evil incarnate.

re: #48 Meremortal

the Prophet -peace be upon him- who told us that men should not wear gold and silk."

That is oddly consistent with screwing pre-pubescent girls.

re: #85 ploome hineni

5 days?

Their son didn't even know what his parents did to be locked up.

re: #75 jemima

No no, not to worry. I heard it explained on the radio. It was a letter sent by an attorney and it had to be recorded but apparently the judge's reaction was something like "You're kidding, right?" Not going to happen.

Oh that's good to hear. I was seriously disturbed by the original report. Thank you!

re: #63 FrogMarch

GM needs to fail.

It's time. No public bailout for union bloat. no more.
Call you congress person.

crap. There goes my warranty.

He hates to say 'I told you so,' but historian foresaw crisis

Long before the subprime meltdown, renowned Scottish historian Niall Ferguson began warning that the world was not immune from a great liquidity crunch.

Prof. Ferguson is a Harvard and Oxford-based expert on the history of economics and empires and has written many bestselling books, including The War of the World. His latest, The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World, explores the power, achievements and monumental failures of finance throughout history. Although he finished it more than six months ago, it is well timed to supply the nerve-racked among us with some much-needed historical perspective.

This is a facinating interview. Many great quotes & ideas:

Why were the economists so wrong?

It has to do with the way that economics operates as a discipline. Once you drift away from history and into mathematics, once you try to model the world as if it were another planet - where markets are always liquid, and behaviour is always rational - you're really unlikely to get Planet Earth right. You didn't need to be that learned to know that really big crises tend to strike when people are most complacent. That's when they borrow too much and have unrealistic expectations about future profitability. My scenario is 1914. People thought everything was great, until there was a sudden seizure in the credit markets. There were massive injections of liquidity, and huge amounts of money were thrown at the banks. And then the war started. What's happened today has been remarkably like 1914, without the war.

RTWT!

re: #87 Son of the Black Dog

I remember Gordon Bethune ( CEO of continantal airlines ) also worked for nothing after 9-11.

That says a lot to me. I'll gladly support a company when I like the people running it.
No doubt their employees worked harder and were more willing to sacrifice when the sacrifice came down from the top.

I just don't get that sense when execs are still taking millions in bonuses as their companies go under.

I am all for bonuses when times are good but not when you are about to go under.

New avatar...

re: #86 MandyManners

I hate to doubt the word of a fellow Lizard but, I heard that the state supreme court issued a ruling.

I can hardly make heads or tails of such things but this is what I heard.

Court unlikely to toss 'illegal alien' term

November 10, 2008, 5:07 p.m.
ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN
The Associated Press

A Hispanic lawyers group has asked Arizona's chief justice to end state court use of words its members consider inflammatory such as "illegal aliens."

But Cari Gerchick, spokeswoman for the Arizona Supreme Court, said Monday that there has been no ban on any words, nor is Chief Justice Ruth McGregor considering one.

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/fromcomments/102225.php

re: #98 gop_patriot

Love it!

"We need something that would prevent a country's financial system from being run like a Ponzi scheme." - Niall Ferguson

Is the downside of creating one world market that it periodically blows up? Isn't this a damning indictment of capitalism?

Well, it's not as damning as the judgment on communism. Capitalism is the worst financial system, apart from all the others that have been tried from time to time.

re: #99 jemima

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/fromcomm ents/102225.php

THANK YOU!

re: #93 MandyManners

Their son didn't even know what his parents did to be locked up.

He was born in the prison, and spent his entire life in the prison. When his mother was executed he said it was a good thing because she broke the rules. His mother tired to escape and he was tortured for 7 months as they tried to find out what he knew. He blames his parents for it all...

This you man is horrible damaged by his upbringing. Imagine how many more are just like him.

re: #95 monkeytime

crap. There goes my warranty.

See my post #84.

"Democrats in Congress won't have as much to do as they think. They won't have any money to spend. So they'll just have to fill their days with congressional inquiries.

The easy thing to do is just blame Alan Greenspan. But the trial would be strangely unsatisfying. He wasn't selling collateralized debt to municipalities. That's why we need to look at things more broadly. At some level, we were all involved. The temptation to treat your house as an ATM is clearly a part of the story."

re: #26 yochanan

IN the long run india will pass china in importance because they have a strong belief in rule of law and political freedom.

Maybe. However, India is cursed with a very large Muslim minority, which is treated with politically correct kid gloves. As elsewhere, the Muslims are attempting to drag the nation back into the 6th century.

China, OTOH, brutally suppresses it's small and almost irrelevant Muslim minority.

re: #103 MandyManners

THANK YOU!

You're welcome. And now I'll leave to make an apple tart. BBL

Well,

Off to shower and get into the theatre. Of course, we have a show tonight. I hate Christmas show that start even before Veterans Day. By the time Christmas comes, I'm going to be so burned out on holiday poop, geeessshhh.

re: #101 Kenneth

"We need something that would prevent a country's financial system from being run like a Ponzi scheme." - Niall Ferguson

We are so screwed... That's congresses job...

"We had the Burgess Shale of financial innovation. All kinds of one-eyed worms crept out from under the rocks and started leaping around the capital markets saying, "I'm a collateralized debt! Buy me!" Hedge funds proliferated in vast numbers. We had a hundred trillion dollars' worth of derivatives. That looks to me like an overpopulation problem. And then the asteroid hit the Earth." -Niall Ferguson

re: #99 jemima And that's seperate and apart from the fact that some of those terms are used in Federal Law - which supersedes Arizona law.

re: #110 jcm

See my #106 above...

Awww... Judge Judy is the only decent show on right now! PBS is barely coming in so I can't watch that! Why can't Saturday morning cartoons continue to like 4 o' clock. And on that note, bring back Ren & Stimpy, I miss that show so much.

Please discuss something really interesting so I have no excuse to clean!

Well all y'all I gotta go eat some lunch now!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #86 MandyManners

I hate to doubt the word of a fellow Lizard but, I heard that the state supreme court issued a ruling.

I heard the same thing but according to this he did just pass around a letter.

Two possible scenarios:

"There are always at least two futures. Right now, there's one future in which Barack Obama is a cross between John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King. He's got it all. He's politically shrewd, charismatic, and actually has answers to the Big Repression. And eight years from now people will say, Isn't it good we got rid of term limits so Obama can have a third term.

In my nasty future, we have a lousy economic scenario and a weak president. This economic crisis turns out to be like the Japanese crisis. It's intractable. Nothing works. Keynesianism doesn't work, and monetarism doesn't work, because the deleveraging process is something that just takes time to play out. And remember, Pakistan hasn't yet been taken over by J.P. Morgan. Those ghastly people are all coming soon to a news program near you. We'll see if being a community organizer is a good preparation for being president. Or we could get a reasonable economic scenario and a weak president."

Guess what - use of the term "Honour Killing" belittles violence against women and is Islamophobic./

PC Gone Wild

re: #84 gmsc

Interesting.

So what if GM dies? Letting the GM's of the world die is one of the best possible things we can do for our economy and the wealth of our nation. Assuming GM's DNA has a less than one multiplier, then releasing GM's assets from GM's control actually increases value. Talented engineers, after some admittedly painful personal dislocation, find jobs designing things people want and value. Their output has more value, which in the long run helps everyone, including themselves.

The alternative to not letting GM die is, well, Europe (and Japan). A LOT of Europe's productive assets are locked up in a few very large corporations with close ties to the state which are not allowed to fail, which are subsidized, protected from competition, etc. In conjunction with European laws that limit labor mobility, protecting corporate dinosaurs has locked all of Europe's most productive human and physical assets into organizations with DNA multipliers less than one.

Our left-democrats are intoxicated with the Euro-model. An anti-free market business model that will kill off the free market.
GM should fail - and we the tax payer should not agree to this bailout.

re: #62 vapig

No problem. You know you really need to leave the Peoples Republic and head for a free state.

The disgusting irony of it is that I moved from Maryland to Virginia just after the '04 election which meant my vote didn't count. Then I moved from Virginia back to Maryland just before the '08 election which meant my vote didn't count.

There could have been a video of Obama kicking puppies released before the election and Maryland would have still voted for him in a landslide.

Hell, Obama could have been a regular at an America hating church, talked about spreading around the wealth, and regularly "hung out" with an unrepentant terrorist and Maryland still would have voted for him in a landslide.

Oh wait...

re: #100 monkeytime

Love it!

Thank you! It's a Flair I stole borrowed from Facebook. lol I might redo it myself later. It'll do for now though. :)

Question for meteorologically-inclined Lizards:

The Midwest is getting rain, snow, mix, blah blah right now, coming from the southwest, but as it moves, there's a consistent bulls-eye of cold over Flint, Michigan. Auto industry/Michael Moore jokes aside, why is it staying there, and not moving with the rest of the system?

re: #95 monkeytime

crap. There goes my warranty.

Maybe some smart non-union folks can buy it and run it efficiently?
/wishful thinking.

re: #122 victor_yugo

All the hot air their blowing in Flint is keeping the rain away?

re: #96 Kenneth

He also says this and I think he's wearing rose colored glasses:

There are always at least two futures. Right now, there's one future in which Barack Obama is a cross between John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King. He's got it all. He's politically shrewd, charismatic, and actually has answers to the Big Repression. And eight years from now people will say, Isn't it good we got rid of term limits so Obama can have a third term.

In my nasty future, we have a lousy economic scenario and a weak president. This economic crisis turns out to be like the Japanese crisis. It's intractable. Nothing works. Keynesianism doesn't work, and monetarism doesn't work, because the deleveraging process is something that just takes time to play out. And remember, Pakistan hasn't yet been taken over by J.P. Morgan. Those ghastly people are all coming soon to a news program near you. We'll see if being a community organizer is a good preparation for being president. Or we could get a reasonable economic scenario and a weak president.

Which do you think it will be?

I'm praying it's the first one. I think it's the most probable.

re: #122 victor_yugo

Question for meteorologically-inclined Lizards:

The Midwest is getting rain, snow, mix, blah blah right now, coming from the southwest, but as it moves, there's a consistent bulls-eye of cold over Flint, Michigan. Auto industry/Michael Moore jokes aside, why is it staying there, and not moving with the rest of the system?

George is letting Rove play with the weather machine again. It disrupted our overnight MI chemtrail missions, and let me tell you the powers that be are UPSET. Rove thinks it's funny, but damnit we have a schedule to keep with the chemtrail missions, and monkeying with the weather fouls it all up.

re: #119 FrogMarch

Our left-democrats are intoxicated with the Euro-model. An anti-free market business model that will kill off the free market.
GM should fail - and we the tax payer should not agree to this bailout.

Yep, Coyote called it back at the end of October and Nancy Pelosi herself confirmed it just a few days later.

re: #118 Spare O'Lake

Guess what - use of the term "Honour Killing" belittles violence against women and is Islamophobic./

PC Gone Wild

Good God.

They're right. It shouldn't be called "honor killing." It should be called "Muslim honor killing." And the many Muslims who who object to this sort of barbarism should speak up.

Did Michelangelo Have a Hidden Agenda?

You can't call Bill Beck the mayor of "stupid" town anymore. The former St. Anthony mayor resigned from his post at a city council meeting Wednesday night, but not before telling off the townspeople and his fellow city council members.

Councilman Bryan Fullmer told the Standard Journal that Beck walked into the start of the meeting and announced his surprise resignation to the audience. Fullmer said Beck then told the audience that he was tired of people who were too stupid to understand, and turned and told council members that they were too stupid to work with, too.

Fullmer said Beck continued by telling the town to go to hell.

SNIP

re: #123 FrogMarch

Maybe some smart non-union folks can buy it and run it efficiently?
/wishful thinking.

Didn't you hear? 0bama promised to "reopen old factories, old plants, to build solar panels, and wind turbines".

This should work because, as we all know, factories are generic production facilities that can make anything. I know this is true, because that's how they work in real-time strategy games!

re: #71 jcm

I posted this last night...

A chilling look into NorKo.

Escapee of North Korea's brutal prison camp tells his horrifying story

19 minutes. He escaped for one reason, he knew nothing of freedom, he was looking for food.

Thanks, JCM, reinforces my opinion that "humanitarian aid" is hurting the very people it is supposed to be helping!

re: #130 MandyManners

Well, that must have been a bit of an awkward scene.

re: #120 freedombilly

The disgusting irony of it is that I moved from Maryland to Virginia just after the '04 election which meant my vote didn't count. Then I moved from Virginia back to Maryland just before the '08 election which meant my vote didn't count.

There could have been a video of Obama kicking puppies released before the election and Maryland would have still voted for him in a landslide.

Hell, Obama could have been a regular at an America hating church, talked about spreading around the wealth, and regularly "hung out" with an unrepentant terrorist and Maryland still would have voted for him in a landslide.

Oh wait...

LOL! Well...the Heavens have just been unleashed here. Raining so hard there's no visablity. Great to be inside snug as a bug!

re: #17 BakaRanger

India celebrates planting its flag on moon...

"Thank you, come again".

Diet Pepsi out my nose! You owe me a new monitor, big fella!

re: #133 Last Mohican

Nope, they all applauded when he was done ranting. They're glad he's gone.

re: #132 loflyer

Thanks, JCM, reinforces my opinion that "humanitarian aid" is hurting the very people it is supposed to be helping!

That's one of the hard lessons of Norko. By "helping" we're making things worse and last longer. In the end the aid is killing more than it's helping.

With separatist leaders in jail, Indian Kashmir votes Monday in a multi-phase election that will test the legitimacy of New Delhi's rule of a region beset by independence protests earlier this year.

Thousands of troops will guard the vote in one of the world's most militarized regions, which witnessed some of the biggest pro-independence demonstrations this year since a separatist revolt against Indian rule in the Himalayan region broke out in 1989.

India's troubled Jammu and Kashmir state, the focus of two wars between nuclear-armed rivals India and Pakistan since they won independence from Britain in 1947, is split between the disputed Muslim-dominated Kashmir Valley, the Hindu-majority Jammu region and Ladakh, which has a heavy Buddhist presence.

But all eyes will be on the Kashmir valley, where police killed at least 42 people this year when hundreds of thousands of Kashmiri's took to the streets shouting "Azadi" (freedom) against 60 years of Indian rule.

Muslim separatist leaders, many sent to jail without trial in the run-up to the vote, have called for a boycott. They say New Delhi will use draconian anti-terror laws and its thousands of troops to try to legitimize their rule.

SNIP

re: #133 Last Mohican

Well, that must have been a bit of an awkward scene.

It'd be a blast to be a reporter covering that town's politics.

re: #134 vapig

LOL! Well...the Heavens have just been unleashed here. Raining so hard there's no visablity. Great to be inside snug as a bug!

And thank your local LEO's and firemen and rescue squads who do their jobs in very un-snug conditions.

re: #21 Meremortal

Here's a link about neckties in Iran if that helps.
[Link: chasblogspot.blogspot.com...]

re: #117 Kenneth

How can anything improve as we distance ourselves from Capitalism?

re: #139 MandyManners

It'd be a blast to be a reporter covering that town's politics.

Considering it's Idaho, that's probably the most excitement they've had there in years.

re: #132 loflyer

We all know that 100% of the "humanitarian aid" that goes to place like North Korea, Myanmar, Somalia, etc goes to the people in power, right? I feel really sorry for the people in North Korea. What a hellish nightmare to exist in.

re: #132 loflyer

Absolutely horrible. Someday no one will be forced to live in camps like that. We should always fight for that day.

re: #128 Last Mohican

Good God.

They're right. It shouldn't be called "honor killing." It should be called "Muslim honor killing." And the many Muslims who who object to this sort of barbarism should speak up.

Language changes when people change the language they use.

We could all do something about the problem of "honor" killings by referring to them henceforth as "Sharia" Killings.

It would take time, but if enough of us are consistent and persistent with our usage, it will catch on.

Wanted: One missing Russian church. Last seen in July. Reward for its return. Orthodox officials in a central Russian region say an abandoned church building that was to be put back into use has been stolen by local villagers.

Orthodox priest Vitaly of the Ivanovo-Voskresenskaya diocese said officials last saw the two-story Church of Resurrection intact in late July. Sometime in early October, however, people from the nearby village of Komarovo, northeast of Moscow, dismantled the building, he said.

Villagers apparently sold it to a local businessman, one ruble (about 4 cents) per brick, Vitaly said. Orthodox priests use only one name.

SNIP

The 200-year-old building, which no longer had its icons and other religious valuables, was a school for disabled children during the Soviet era before it was closed down in 1998 and turned over to the church.

SNIP

You know - I recognize Obama abilities, but I think referring to them is superlatives does not show what has actually happened. He is an intelligent politician. But his success is largely a product of being set up for it by others, not so much some sort of overwhelming personal ability. Republican policies seriously alienating their base; The MSM being empowered to bullshit the less informed; and the slow dumbing-down of much of the electorate - by MSM and the so-called educational system. I do not see this "charismatic" factor that has been referred to. Sometimes he seems just juvenile and second-rate in his intellect. He's the quintessential case of the "emperor's new clothes."

re: #143 victor_yugo

Considering it's Idaho, that's probably the most excitement they've had there in years.

Small-town politics anywhere can be very interesting.

Barry needs so many Clinton people to run the gov't because he has NO EXPERIENCE! Barry doesn't know how to run the gov't. Bill Richards will want some job and I think he wanted to be Secretary of State. He must have been promised something to endorse Barry and not Hillery.

re: #137 jcm

That's one of the hard lessons of Norko. By "helping" we're making things worse and last longer. In the end the aid is killing more than it's helping.

I will never forgive Jimmy Carter and his treaty with NK in '93. I understand Bill Clinton was furious! How many millions has Carter killed? Not just in NK, but Africa and elsewhere?

/killer do-gooder!

re: #1 karmic_inquisitor

Silicon Valley and Hollywood elites create platform for "religious harmony".

I foresee "blasphemy bans".

Hmmm...

The Charter for Compassion project on the Internet at [Link: www.charterforcompassion.org...] springs from a "wish" granted this year to religious scholar Karen Armstrong at a premier Technology, Entertainment and Design (TED) conference in California.

There ya go.

re: #151 loflyer

I will never forgive Jimmy Carter and his treaty with NK in '93. I understand Bill Clinton was furious! How many millions has Carter killed? Not just in NK, but Africa and elsewhere?

/killer do-gooder!

Carter's piety level is through the roof. Nothing kills like piety. He's the king of promoting perpetrators as victims.

re: #151 loflyer

I will never forgive Jimmy Carter and his treaty with NK in '93. I understand Bill Clinton was furious! How many millions has Carter killed? Not just in NK, but Africa and elsewhere?

/killer do-gooder!

I can put names and faces on some of Carter's victims. Friends I grew up with in Iran.

re: #145 SWPaul

Absolutely horrible. Someday no one will be forced to live in camps like that. We should always fight for that day.

I vote that the leaders who used these prisons to saitsfy their blood-lust be sent there, left one week locked up with no food and one cup of filthy water per day, then hanged at the main gate.

re: #146 Syrah

Language changes when people change the language they use.

We could all do something about the problem of "honor" killings by referring to them henceforth as "Sharia" Killings.

It would take time, but if enough of us are consistent and persistent with our usage, it will catch on.

The same is true with 'suicide bombings' which are actually homicide bombings.

re: #146 Syrah

Language changes when people change the language they use.

We could all do something about the problem of "honor" killings by referring to them henceforth as "Sharia" Killings.

It would take time, but if enough of us are consistent and persistent with our usage, it will catch on.

Good point. Although I think I'd vote for "Sharia honor killing," rather than my "Muslim honor killing," your "Sharia killing," or the usual "honor killing."

"Sharia honor killing" would emphasize that the murder is demanded by Muslim law, but would not imply that all Muslims do this sort of thing (as my term might). And including the word "honor" would specifically identify the act as the murder of one's own child, as opposed to the many other kinds of murder that are constantly committed in the name of Islam.

re: #155 jcm

I can put names and faces on some of Carter's victims. Friends I grew up with in Iran.

And I voted for the bastard in 'me first election, mate!
/forgive me, I was young and stupid!

re: #145 SWPaul

Absolutely horrible. Someday no one will be forced to live in camps like that. We should always fight for that day.

Personally, I'm just hoping that nobody in the US is force to live in camps like that.

Given Chairman Maobama's political connections, I'd say it's a distinct possibility. After all, his mentor Ayers thought it would be perfectly fine to put 10% of the US population into "reeducation camps," and to "eliminate" any who refused to be "reeducated."

re: #151 loflyer

I will never forgive Jimmy Carter and his treaty with NK in '93. I understand Bill Clinton was furious! How many millions has Carter killed? Not just in NK, but Africa and elsewhere?

/killer do-gooder!

His atrocities aside (he's NO do-gooder!) I loathe him for the raging anti-semite that he is.

re: #157 debutaunt

The same is true with 'suicide bombings' which are actually homicide bombings.

Damned straight. "Suicide bombing" should be reserved for acts in which a person uses a bomb to kill himself or herself, without attempting to kill anyone else.

But I don't like "suicide bombing," a term that seems to be used mostly by Fox News. I prefer "terrorist attack," when that term can be appropriately applied.

The big 3 auto makers are located in the right State -- Mich -- that voted strongly for Obama. The bail out money is a thank you note.

re: #161 vapig

His atrocities aside (he's NO do-gooder!) I loathe him for the raging anti-semite that he is.

"Do-gooder" is just a slang term for busybody. Someone who decides he's good, despite all annoyance to the contrary.

re: #159 loflyer

And I voted for the bastard in 'me first election, mate!
/forgive me, I was young and stupid!

So did my cousin - she was four months older than me and I missed voting in that election by those four months.

On the bright side, four years later I voted for Ronald Reagan. So while she has to admit to voting for Carter, I can smugly say Reagan was the first president I ever voted for. She really hates me.

re: #153 ploome hineni

I want to marry Karl Rove

old windbag

lol

HA, awesome.

Great exchange:

You’ve never repudiated President Bush.
No. And I never will. He did the right things.

What about Iraq and the economy?
The world is a better place with Saddam Hussein gone.

Do you have any advice for him at this point?
With all due respect, I don’t need you to transmit what I want to say to my friend of 35 years.

re: #161 vapig

His atrocities aside (he's NO do-gooder!) I loathe him for the raging anti-semite that he is.

We had our last class reunion at the Carter library, the facilities were excellent, the company was great and the food was lousy! Got the chance to look around and was generally disgusted with what I saw.
/No bias at the Carter center!

re: #164 victor_yugo

"Do-gooder" is just a slang term for busybody. Someone who decides he's good, despite all annoyance to the contrary.

I know...

re: #152 Spiny Norman

There ya go.

Yup.

re: #165 vapig

So did my cousin - she was four months older than me and I missed voting in that election by those four months.

On the bright side, four years later I voted for Ronald Reagan. So while she has to admit to voting for Carter, I can smugly say Reagan was the first president I ever voted for. She really hates me.

Haar! I learn far more from my mistakes than my successes mate!

re: #145 SWPaul

Absolutely horrible. Someday no one will be forced to live in camps like that. We should always fight for that day.

Norko is pretty standard to send 3 generations to the camps for crimes against the state.

Remember Obama will talk face to face with this evil.

re: #172 jcm

Norko is pretty standard to send 3 generations to the camps for crimes against the state.

Remember Obama will talk face to face with this evil.

Probably so he can get their advice on how to properly set up a camp system.

re: #71 jcm

I posted this last night...

A chilling look into NorKo.

Escapee of North Korea's brutal prison camp tells his horrifying story

19 minutes. He escaped for one reason, he knew nothing of freedom, he was looking for food.

I watched that video yesterday. Tell the LL Libs if they think Gitmo is bad. think again. I doubt many of them posted a comment since Barack will be cashing their reality checks soon and raise the gas tax to pay for the bailouts.

re: #158 Last Mohican

Good point. Although I think I'd vote for "Sharia honor killing," rather than my "Muslim honor killing," your "Sharia killing," or the usual "honor killing."

"Sharia honor killing" would emphasize that the murder is demanded by Muslim law, but would not imply that all Muslims do this sort of thing (as my term might). And including the word "honor" would specifically identify the act as the murder of one's own child, as opposed to the many other kinds of murder that are constantly committed in the name of Islam.

As a transitional term, that would work as well.

I would hope that over time we could excise "honor" completly form any description of such killings. I just don't like associating "honor" with such an act in any way. Such creatures that would participate in such acts should be allowed no pretense to honor. They should be shamed and degraded even for trying to claim "honor" as a justification for such acts.

re: #173 ploome hineni

Carter is not a Christian

he is a small vindictive nasty sneaky narcissistic selfish pos

He's not only NOT a Christian, I believe him to be genuinely evil. You can't hate as thoroughly as that man and not be an evil sob.

re: #173 ploome hineni

small vindictive nasty sneaky narcissistic selfish pos

Bullseye -

re: #175 Airedale

I watched that video yesterday. Tell the LL Libs if they think Gitmo is bad. think again. I doubt many of them posted a comment since Barack will be cashing their reality checks soon and raise the gas tax to pay for the bailouts.

I've read a bunch of debriefs from those who've managed to get out of NorKo. His story absolutely rings true with the other stories. The left is utterly clueless as to what a gulag really is. Gitmo is a damn Club Med for terrorists in comparison.

re: #172 jcm

Norko is pretty standard to send 3 generations to the camps for crimes against the state.

Remember Obama will talk face to face with this evil.

It would be interesting to see what would happen in NK if the humanitarian aid was discontinued. No one wants to find out because NK will undoubtedly attack SK. However NK military is slowly self-destructing and Kim Jong II may be out of the picture permanently. I wouldn't be surprised to see some major changes in NK soon!

re: #175 Airedale

I watched that video yesterday. Tell the LL Libs if they think Gitmo is bad. think again. I doubt many of them posted a comment since Barack will be cashing their reality checks soon and raise the gas tax to pay for the bailouts.

Doesn't matter. Commie=good / Capitalist=bad

Soon they will be releasing the Gitmo gang right here at home.

re: #180 loflyer

It would be interesting to see what would happen in NK if the humanitarian aid was discontinued. No one wants to find out because NK will undoubtedly attack SK. However NK military is slowly self-destructing and Kim Jong II may be out of the picture permanently. I wouldn't be surprised to see some major changes in NK soon!

That is the problem. Norko is not likely to implode, the power structure is such it has to lash out in it's death throes. And must not forget Seoul is in artillery range of the North.

Very bad ugliness no matter how you slice the NorKo problem.

B-HO and CHANGE! = Hire all of the Clintonite flunky-asses he can find.

Yup. Change! we can believe in! I feel so...hopeful!
/

re: #180 loflyer

(*drumroll* ... running out guns ... hoisting battle flags)

Found this, thought you'd get a kick out it.

re: #183 jcm

That is the problem. Norko is not likely to implode, the power structure is such it has to lash out in it's death throes. And must not forget Seoul is in artillery range of the North.

Very bad ugliness no matter how you slice the NorKo problem.

It's the old pay me now or pay later problem. I always thought we made a BIG mistake by not addressing this cancerous weasel of nation way back when. But that's just me.

re: #172 jcm

Norko is pretty standard to send 3 generations to the camps for crimes against the state.

Remember Obama will talk face to face with this evil.

Seeing that video moved me to tears and I was reminded of "The Aquariums of Pyongyang" that I had read a while ago.

The level of psychological carnage, among other state-afflicted atrocities, runs deep and dark where the young Korean could not place blame on the Dear Leader, is the very kernal of their grip on the people in North Korea.

The utter lack of humanity at all levels chills me to the bone and is the other sode of the psychological coin.

I'm sorry if this makes little sense, my mind is muddled by the sheer evil and I'm speaking before I can sort out my horrified thoughts.

A nice wide "Open Thread" Aloha.
Now go out and play!

re: #157 debutaunt

The same is true with 'suicide bombings' which are actually homicide bombings.

Actually, I don't like the term "homicide bombings".

ALL bombings which kill people are "homicide bombings". We use the adjective "suicide" in this case to describe a method, not an outcome.

(And for that matter, a suicide bombing isn't necessarily always a homicide bombing... if the bomber only succeeds in blowing him/herself up.)

re: #188 IslandLibertarian

I would if it weren't freezing-rain.

re: #188 IslandLibertarian

A nice wide "Open Thread" Aloha.
Now go out and play!

And now, I'd like to tell you the story of Eddie, and his adventures in the Great Wide Open . . .

"I can see Dear Leader's house from here!"

/forgive me but it must be seen

re: #183 jcm

That is the problem. Norko is not likely to implode, the power structure is such it has to lash out in it's death throes. And must not forget Seoul is in artillery range of the North.

Very bad ugliness no matter how you slice the NorKo problem.

Haar mate, the situation is that Seoul could be turned into a charnal house in 24 hours of concentrated arty. However smart weapons make war a whole new ball game! A single cruise missile could take down a single battery from ships hundreds of miles from the scene. The gas and financial crises has taken a toll on military training. The US has the edge and its gets bigger and better.

re: #187 Miss Trixie

No makes perfect sense and is a horrify problem for us if and when NorKo is liberated. How do you fix and entire nation so horribly abused, physically and psychologically?

re: #190 victor_yugo

I would if it weren't freezing-rain.

Well come on over. We need your tourist dollars.

/dead serious! Layoffs at my office yesterday! Thanks to Frank, Dodd and Co.

re: #191 gmsc

And now, I'd like to tell you the story of Eddie, and his adventures in the Great Wide Open . . .

That's playing on my Pandora link right now! Cosmic!

re: #193 loflyer

Haar mate, the situation is that Seoul could be turned into a charnal house in 24 hours of concentrated arty. However smart weapons make war a whole new ball game! A single cruise missile could take down a single battery from ships hundreds of miles from the scene. The gas and financial crises has taken a toll on military training. The US has the edge and its gets bigger and better.

That's the flip side. I hope when have enough hardware in theater should the flag every go up. And whoever the POTUS is to have the cojones to completely commit to the conflict.

Torrential downpour in Baltimore. Get ready NYC!

re: #185 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(*drumroll* ... running out guns ... hoisting battle flags)

Found this, thought you'd get a kick out it.

Arrr! Thanks mate, 'me beloved dawgs are barely leading by 10-6 against Auborn, and Auborn's not that good!

re: #198 Nevergiveup

Torrential downpour in Baltimore. Get ready NYC!

We have darks skies and rain in DC, but the weirdest stuff seems to have passed.

Is Grandma back under the bus?

Is it racist to wonder if that flying trip to her side might, might I say, have been political pandering?

'Course, there are pressing detals to handle.

Obama to skip his grandmother's memorial.

re: #192 Miss Trixie

"I can see Dear Leader's house from here!"

/forgive me but it must be seen

That pictures speaks a billion words.

re: #201 razorbacker

Is Grandma back under the bus?

Is it racist to wonder if that flying trip to her side might, might I say, have been political pandering?

'Course, there are pressing detals to handle.

Obama to skip his grandmother's memorial.

I KNEW IT! Typical narcissistic shit.

bbl

re: #192 Miss Trixie

"I can see Dear Leader's house from here!"

/forgive me but it must be seen

Speaks volumes doesn't it.

re: #202 MandyManners

That pictures speaks a billion words.

Here's the full Earth version of that same picture.

re: #189 Occasional Reader

Actually, I don't like the term "homicide bombings".

ALL bombings which kill people are "homicide bombings". We use the adjective "suicide" in this case to describe a method, not an outcome.

(And for that matter, a suicide bombing isn't necessarily always a homicide bombing... if the bomber only succeeds in blowing him/herself up.)

If the bomber succeeds in blowing himself up, ya got an actual suicide bombing. If not, the intention is killing others.

re: #206 gmsc

Here's the full Earth version of that same picture.

I am so glad I live in the United States of America.

re: #203 MandyManners

How can he skip his grandmother's funeral? Even if he feels he said his goodbyes, surely he wants to be there!

This is just awful. Even if he thought the press would be intrusive, he should go!

re: #206 gmsc

Here's the full Earth version of that same picture.

Also look at the differance between Israel and it's Arab neighbors?

re: #209 Dianna

Maybe it has something to do with the subject of the previous thread.
Still it looks strange that he not attend.

re: #198 Nevergiveup

Torrential downpour in Baltimore. Get ready NYC!

Raining ash here.

Dianna (#209),

How can he skip his grandmother's funeral?

The election's over.

re: #194 jcm

No makes perfect sense and is a horrify problem for us if and when NorKo is liberated. How do you fix and entire nation so horribly abused, physically and psychologically?

How to liberate them? I'm not a strategist so I'll leave that up to those with more grey matter but IF these people were, it would be a miracle.

Having said that, I would imagine lunacy would reign, at least for a little while, until the dreadful shock wears off and the helping hands and strong shoulders of the rest of the Western world committed themselves to the walking dead to embrace life.

In spite of all the unspeakable horror visited upon these people, there is always hope when there is life.

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Also look at the differance between Israel and it's Arab neighbors?

I'd like to see Iran lit up.

re: #207 debutaunt

If the bomber succeeds in blowing himself up, ya got an actual suicide bombing. If not, the intention is killing others.

Unless it's an "Ayers" bombing.
Then it's a non-violent patriotic expression of peace and love.
'Cause 52% of America thinks so...

/yeah, I know it's a stretch.

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Also look at the differance between Israel and it's Arab neighbors?

It's even easier to notice in this higher resolution version!

re: #202 MandyManners

That pictures speaks a billion words.

You took the words out of my mouth mate! I think most of us have concluded that humanitarian aid has only prolonged and exacerbated the misery, suffering and death of millions. And the whole world supports this aid to prevent an attack on SK by NK! Wouldn't it be far cheaper and morally correct to demand an NK change of government in return for foreign aid, and then field a force to protect SK and pull the plug on aid.
/wishful thinking mates

re: #210 Nevergiveup

I recently flew from Paris to Madagascar. It was amazing to see so few lights down there at night.

re: #215 VegasRick

*whack*

re: #220 gop_patriot

*whack*

Solly.

re: #206 gmsc

Here's the full Earth version of that same picture.

Cool!

re: #207 debutaunt

If the bomber succeeds in blowing himself up, ya got an actual suicide bombing. If not, the intention is killing others.

Okay, but then what language do you use to distinguish that from a remote-controlled or time-delay bomb that kills?

Because the "suicide" aspect is real, and useful, information; it tells us something about the mentality of those who do it, and also is of tactical significance. (You need more, and different, precautions against a suicide bomber.)

I prefer splodeydope

re: #209 Dianna

How can he skip his grandmother's funeral? Even if he feels he said his goodbyes, surely he wants to be there!

This is just awful. Even if he thought the press would be intrusive, he should go!

It's all about him. She has no more use for him hence she can be pushed aside.

re: #218 loflyer

Good afternoon Loflyer. I did not get to see the shuttle last night. : (

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Also look at the differance between Israel and it's Arab neighbors?

Well, that area is desert.

re: #214 Miss Trixie

It's what makes me so angry with the left. Not their intentions to help people, however misguided and flawed those intentions are. It's their excusing of the evil visited upon the people in NorKo, Cuba and elsewhere. I find that unforgivable. I still have the means to fight for my liberty. Those in places like that have no means, and with the left no one to speak for them.

re: #211 jaunte

Maybe it has something to do with the subject of the previous thread.
Still it looks strange that he not attend.

Strange doesn't cover it.

I couldn't bear to have missed my grandmother's memorial. I didn't get home in time to say goodbye, and that's the only thing I had left.

re: #227 MandyManners

Well, that area is desert.

...in every sense.
;)

re: #215 VegasRick

I'd like to see Iran lit up.

*snort*

Go Northwestern! First win at the Big House since 1995!

re: #225 MandyManners

It's all about him. She has no more use for him hence she can be pushed aside.

Ugh.

I'd like to think better of pretty much anyone than that.

re: #215 VegasRick

I'd like to see Iran lit up.

Now, now... let's focus on Dinnerjacket and the mad mullahs a lot of the country is recoverable.

re: #218 loflyer

You took the words out of my mouth mate! I think most of us have concluded that humanitarian aid has only prolonged and exacerbated the misery, suffering and death of millions. And the whole world supports this aid to prevent an attack on SK by NK! Wouldn't it be far cheaper and morally correct to demand an NK change of government in return for foreign aid, and then field a force to protect SK and pull the plug on aid.
/wishful thinking mates

I'd like to figure out something that would induce the military to boot the bum out.

re: #221 VegasRick

Just don't want you to get in trouble! ;)

re: #227 MandyManners

Well, that area is desert.

So was Israel at one time!

Obama's first youtube address...
Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

re: #229 Dianna

Strange doesn't cover it.

I agree. We'll probably read all about it in his next autobiography.

re: #234 Dianna

Ugh.

I'd like to think better of pretty much anyone than that.

When dealing with a narcissist, you can pretty much throw the realm of normal human experience out the window.

re: #226 bellamags

Good afternoon Loflyer. I did not get to see the shuttle last night. : (

Sorry to hear that mate, I missed your post on that last night but saw it this morning researching the demise of Mama Winger. The NASA channel was very nice though. I think I left at a good time last night!

re: #235 jcm

Now, now... let's focus on Dinnerjacket and the mad mullahs a lot of the country is recoverable.

That's true. A while back, I was watching a 2-part documentary on life in Iran. The first part was the Iran you first think of, with mullahs and strict Sharia law, and so on. The 2nd half showed the "underlying" Iran - teenagers listening to their iPods, speaking against the government on condition on anonymity, and so on. It was an eye-opener!

re: #233 ploome hineni

he didn;t even send his wife t the funeral

have his daughters ever met her?

something is very wierd here

I don't care how busy you are! It's not like it's too expensive for him to attend. Heck, we'll pay the tab and be happy to do it.

re: #238 Nevergiveup

So was Israel at one time!

Until the Jews came.

re: #239 Killgore Trout

"Adding comments has been disabled for this video President-elect."

re: #239 Killgore Trout

Obama's first youtube address...
Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

Like FDR's Fireside chats.

America, prepare yourself for the perpetual campaign.

From here on out, it will never ever end.

Here's your chance to be on the Obama team! Just fill out this questionnaire and wait for the results! You too can be an Obamapostle!

[Link: www.isra-pvf.com...]

Sermon on the Mount

However...
If you or any of your immediate family own a GUN (shudder), you may not be qualified.

Question #59 on the Obama questionnaire.
"Do you or any of your immediate family members own a gun?" " If so, provide complete ownership and registration information." "Has the registration ever lapsed?" "Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage"

Odd that a man who couldn't qualify to be a secret service agent, you know...the guys who protect the president...is asking all these questions about those who only want to be in the presence of the annointed one.

Also, somewhat odd that in 17 pages of the application to be a secret service agent, not one question regarding guns. Not one.

You figure it out.

re: #239 Killgore Trout

Obama's first youtube address...
Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

AAAIIIEEE!

There are comments on the previous thread stating that reports of people being happy about the assassination of JFK are exaggerated.

Well, they're wrong.

There were people in my high school who were positively gleeful about the reports of JFK's death. People I knew, and who I immediately respected less, even though I was no fan of JFK. This many years later I could still give you one name in particular from my graduating class, but I won't.

re: #247 Syrah

Like FDR's Fireside chats.

America, prepare yourself for the perpetual campaign.

From here on out, it will never ever end.

"This is the campaign that never ends,
It goes on and on my friend,
0bama started doing it not knowing what it was,
and it goes on and on, forever just because,

"This is the campaign that never ends . . ."

re: #247 Syrah

Like FDR's Fireside chats.

America, prepare yourself for the perpetual campaign.

From here on out, it will never ever end.

Ugh, I think you're right.

January 21, 2017: Your first daily "video message of inspiration" from ex-President Obama. Produced by Harpo Productions.

Dawgs scored! 17-13 dawgs. Lots of penalties and windy to boot!

re: #243 gmsc

That's true. A while back, I was watching a 2-part documentary on life in Iran. The first part was the Iran you first think of, with mullahs and strict Sharia law, and so on. The 2nd half showed the "underlying" Iran - teenagers listening to their iPods, speaking against the government on condition on anonymity, and so on. It was an eye-opener!

A couple of months ago National Geographic had an article on Persian culture. That's to key to Iran, support Persian culture vs. the Islamic. There is an internal conflict between the two that can be used to benefit everyone in the long run.

re: #242 loflyer

WTF happened to Mama Winger?

re: #239 Killgore Trout

Obama's first youtube address...
Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

behold
" Adding comments has been disabled for this video.
... "

Some day, Big Bro will be watching you

re: #1 karmic_inquisitor

Silicon Valley and Hollywood elites create platform for "religious harmony".

I foresee "blasphemy bans".

I don't hate other religions. but I do hate hollywood elites (at least most of them) . are they going to stop me? I demand my freedom to hate hollywood elites.

re: #255 bellamags

Got the banning stick ( again ) in the Shuttle launch thread.