Smoky sky.

WA Coast sunset.

I smell smoke.

Prayers are with all the California lizards.

California wildfires and Chinese pollution make for lovely sunsets.

Red sky at night, sailor's delight. Red sky in the morn, sailors take warn.

re: #3 DesertSage

I smell smoke.

Oh, is there a Biden interview on?

Here in San Diego the weather is gorgeous...
As a relatively new hatchling I'd like to say how much I've enjoyed the intelligent, witty, and just plain entertaining people here at LGF.
Thank you Charles for all your hard work!

Red Sunset

/WOLVERINES!

California Fire Season. Sorta like Tornado Season in the Midwest. You know it is coming, you know people are going to lose all their stuff, yet it's simply amazing to watch every year (I've been through the tornado shit personally).

re: #6 MandyManners

Red sky at night, sailor's delight. Red sky in the morn, sailors take warn.

Little red president, taxes are resident.

I wonder if we're going to have a Red Dawn tomorrow?

re: #3 DesertSage

I smell smoke.

Hey DS, long time no see. I like the new avatar.

Unseasonably warm here in the Bay Area. Like a summer day, but not as long. I guess it's a last gasp of our "Indian Summer" before the cold and wet weather begins in earnest.

The sunset tonight is absolutely gorgeous. If I didn't know the cause of that beauty was multiple wild fires, I'd love it.

We were driving toward the sunset and it's about the first time we've ever been able to look straight at it because it was so filtered.

Indonesian Smog...
Funny how pollution can look so beautiful.

re: #6 MandyManners

Red sky at night, sailor's delight. Red sky in the morn, sailors take warn.

waitin for the fleet to come in, Mands !?!?!

/duckin

Mike Huckabee is doing a media blitz. He's going to ingratiate himself to America even if he has to talk to Oliver Stone to do it.

I'll have a few pics as soon as I get them off my phone.

I live very close to where things are buring.

Paths of Glory starting now on TCM.

/a must see

re: #11 itellu3times

Little red president, taxes are resident.

Very clever.

re: #11 itellu3times

Little red president, taxes are resident.

We will see a lot of red when this guy is in office, accountants should be stocking up on red pens as we speak.

re: #11 itellu3times

Little red president, taxes are resident.

Very clever.

re: #17 sattv4u2

waitin for the fleet to come in, Mands !?!?!

/duckin

I'll get you later, when you least expect it.

I'm not that close to any fires, but I had to cut a ride short this morning because the air was so bad.

Draft Michael Steele for RNC Chair!

re: #20 Killian Bundy

Paths of Glory starting now on TCM.

/a must see

Yup. Among other things, it features one of my favorite character actors: the unspeakably weird Timothy Carey.

re: #25 Charles

I'm not that close to any fires, but I had to cut a ride short this morning because the air was so bad.

Glad you are safe.

re: #26 Colonel Panik

Steele seems ok, I guess. I don't find him particularly impressive.

re: #18 Charles

Mike Huckabee is doing a media blitz. He's going to ingratiate himself to America even if he has to talk to Oliver Stone to do it.

Which he did! How did that go?

Now that he's the president, I think Barry is going to have a lot more "Oh s---" moments like this when he has to actually consider the implications of things he stridently promised to do (in this link, closing Gitmo and what to do with the detainees).

re: #8 CalBear84

Here in San Diego the weather is gorgeous...
As a relatively new hatchling I'd like to say how much I've enjoyed the intelligent, witty, and just plain entertaining people here at LGF.
Thank you Charles for all your hard work!

Don't forget Stinky and the Hamsters!

/Sounds like a bad band.

re: #13 VegasRick

Hey DS, long time no see. I like the new avatar.

Hey Rick, good to see you!

I remember when you first got here. And now look at you...over 4,000 comments.

:')

Self pimpage: I invite you to enjoy my new slideshow on YouTube.

re: #30 Rancher

Which he did! How did that go?

Not to mention Bill Maher about his Religiosity film. Huckabee's daring. He lives on the edge.

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Steele seems ok, I guess. I don't find him particularly impressive.

Having the testicular fortitude to publicly go against 90+% of you ethnic group alone gains him a huge plus with me (along with Clarence Thomas, J.C.Watts, Condi Rice, Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell just to name a few).

Red Sunset

WOLVERINES!

Oh... wrong time of day... sorry.

Fires temporarily cut me off from my mom, who is in a Sylmar nursing home. (The 5 and the 405 were closed near the Newhall Pass). Neither one of us is in any danger, but it was stressful for her. Hope everyone else is OK!

re: #26 Colonel Panik

Draft Michael Steele for RNC Chair!

That's the best idea I've heard in a long time!

I heard the sunsets in South Africa are magnificent. Dust from the diamond minds.

re: #33 DesertSage

Hey Rick, good to see you!

I remember when you first got here. And now look at you...over 4,000 comments.

:')

And I haven't even gained any weight!

I just looked at my west facing window at a similar sunset. I can see San Francisco Bay and the Golden Gate Bridge from my house up in the
East Bay hills. Lovely pink and blue.

Hope everyone in So Cal is OK and LA doesn't lose power due to fires.

Huckabee was by far the most charismatic republican in the race.

/And it seems charisma counts for a lot these days. Heck, its all Obama has!

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Steele seems ok, I guess. I don't find him particularly impressive.

Mr. Charisma, he's not but, I'm okay with that.

re: #9 Killian Bundy

/WOLVERINES!

yeah WOLVERINES

re: #14 mikalm

re: #32 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hamsters are doing yeoman's work.
Who's stinky?

re: #41 VegasRick

And I haven't even gained any weight!

even with all the free buffets out there ?

Alllrighty then.

Local business owner doesn't like the election results. Lowers American flag, substitutes Confederate flag. Stuff ensues.

Confederate flag raises debate in community.

"On election night, we lowered Old Glory from our flag pole because we are no longer the land of the free and the home of the brave (except for our military)," the letter stated. "The sound principals for which Old Glory stood have been abandoned. We raised the rebel flag of the Old South in protest. Since political correctness forces people into a limited frame of reference, we wish to say this loud and clear, this was not about race. We resent having a Marxist in the White House no matter color he is. If Mr. Obama had tried to enter the White House as an ordinary citizen, he would not qualify for a security clearance because of his past associations. We decided if Obama can refuse to properly salute the flag and his buddy, Bill Ayers, could stand on the American flag in a trash-filled alley, then we could take Old Glory down in honor and respect.

"We are angry with a biased, agenda-driven media. We are angry that for the past eight years President Bush and the Republican Party have been blamed by the Democrats and their cohorts in the media for the incomplete and irresponsible way that the group A.C.O.R.N. let down potential voters in the state of Florida in 2000. A.C.O.R.N. has used our tax dollars to carry out, contrary to the law, a partisan "get out the vote" effort of scandalous proportions. The other arm of this nefarious organization bullies and harasses banks and lending institutions to make the risky loans that have jeopardized our nation's financial security. We are outraged that the Democrats, who portray themselves as the great defenders of the night to vote, did not feel compelled to ensure the rights of our military to be guaranteed their full privileges during the election.

"Old Glory is still displayed on our American owned and operated sign. So far, the response from our clientele has been supportive and positive."

T'aint funny.

re: #20 Killian Bundy

Paths of Glory starting now on TCM.

/a must see

Agreed, even though Kirk Douglas sounds about as French as Barney Rubble does.

re: #46 CalBear84

re: #32 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hamsters are doing yeoman's work.
Who's stinky?

I'd tell ya, but I'd have to kill ya.
/

re: #26 Colonel Panik

Draft Michael Steele for RNC Chair!

As long as he doesn't want to take the party left. We have to stick to our values. I will not compromise my values to win elections. Might as well be a friggin' liberal, smoke dope, sleep till noon, make dinner in my pajamas.

re: #43 experiencedtraveller

Huckabee was by far the most charismatic republican in the race.

/And it seems charisma counts for a lot these days. Heck, its all Obama has!

Too bad Fred Thompson didn't run as if he meant it.

re: #40 yah

I heard the sunsets in South Africa are magnificent. Dust from the diamond minds.

Hard thinking.

re: #40 yah

Sunsets in the Middle East are pretty amazing. Dust particles that are omnipresent result in spectacular sunsets. And if there are even a few clouds in the sky, near the horizon at sunset/sunrise, it is certainly memorable.

re: #25 Charles

Human powered or motorcycle?

re: #47 sattv4u2

even with all the free buffets out there ?

Quality over quantity my friend.

re: #46 CalBear84

re: #32 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hamsters are doing yeoman's work.
Who's stinky?

Lets just say if you see a lizard approaching with a stick ,,, PRAY

re: #26 Colonel Panik

Draft Michael Steele for RNC Chair!

Can't draft him, he already volunteered!

Not Sure for Decretary of Interior.

re: #49 The Sanity Inspector

Agreed, even though Kirk Douglas sounds about as French as Barney Rubble does.

Frankly, I prefer that to the usual Hollywood technique of "let's pretend everyone is speaking French, by having American actors speaking English with hokey French accents". That just sort of insults the audience's intelligence.

re: #51 VMA211Dan

smoke dope, sleep till noon, make dinner in my pajamas.

Hey -- I do all those things -- on weekends! :-)

re: #55 CalBear84

Human powered or motorcycle?

Quadriceps-powered.

re: #46 CalBear84

re: #32 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hamsters are doing yeoman's work.
Who's stinky?

He's the LGF custodian who "cleans up messes", in other words disposes of inappropriate comments.

Well, if the GOP wants to take the fight to the Dems, Tom DeLay would certainly take no prisoners as RNC chair! No Marquess of Queensbury rules with him, LOL!

re: #57 sattv4u2

Lets just say if you see a lizard approaching with a stick ,,, PRAY

Too late to pray, or duck.

re: #52 The Sanity Inspector

Too bad Fred Thompson didn't run as if he meant it.

I thought Fred was old and soft from the beginning...

re: #47 sattv4u2

even with all the free buffets out there ?

Free, hell! When were you there last? You're lucky to eat anything other than fast food in Vegas for less than fifteen bucks, and that includes the buffets! They want you to gamble, not eat.

re: #46 CalBear84

re: #32 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hamsters are doing yeoman's work.
Who's stinky?

seriously,.scroll to the top of the page. Look to the right. See the cute lil green creature with the adult beverage at the entrance to the lounge? THATS stinky!

re: #67 experiencedtraveller

I thought Fred was old and soft from the beginning...

If we had combined him and Rudy, we could have had a viable candidate whose heart was completely in it.

re: #51 VMA211Dan

Might as well be a friggin' liberal, smoke dope, sleep till noon, make dinner in my pajamas

So, how do you cook with all this food in your pajamas, on a stove? Sounds a bit painful!

re: #46 CalBear84

re: #32 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hamsters are doing yeoman's work.
Who's stinky?

Stinky has too sticks, one merely removes and offending comment. Just smarts a little, his other stick removes the poster from the LGF gene pool.

re: #31 livefreeor die
Obama's probably thinking that those interrogation techniques used on terrorists could be useful to use on, well, people like us. So he will probably let the terrorists go and keep the interrogation techniques.

re: #43 experiencedtraveller

Huckabee was by far the most charismatic republican in the race.

/And it seems charisma counts for a lot these days. Heck, its all Obama has!

Huckabee is a much better T.V. personality/host than a Pres. candidate. he would be wise to stay were he is at in 2012.

re: #65 taxfreekiller

Monday Nov. 17, 2008, Chicago.

Meeting:

Attending:
1. Pres. elect Obama
2. loser Sen. John McCain
3. bigger loser Lynsey Grahamcracker.

Full court press on amnesty.

In support:
Current Pres. George Bush
soon to be Pres. Obama
Senate
McCain
Kennedy
Kerry
Reid
Grahamcracker
Arlin Spector
both Calif Senators
both New York Senators
at least 10 to 15 other RINO "repukes"
all commie lusting Demoncraps

left out: American workers, the coming generations of Americans, the Constitution, freedom, justice, the rule of law, brains.

I am praying that you left off the sarc tag, but I don't think you did.

re: #70 livefreeor die

If we had combined him and Rudy, we could have had a viable candidate whose heart was completely in it.

Better throw in a third guy about twelve years old, to get the aggregate age down in a better range.

re: #54 6pat6

Sunsets in the Middle East are pretty amazing. Dust particles that are omnipresent result in spectacular sunsets. And if there are even a few clouds in the sky, near the horizon at sunset/sunrise, it is certainly memorable.

Prettiest sunsets I ever saw were in the 80s, when first Mt. St. Helens and then El Chinchon blew up.

re: #41 VegasRick

How have you managed to do that with all the spiked fruit cup served?

re: #46 CalBear84

re: #32 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hamsters are doing yeoman's work.
Who's stinky?

He cleans up
Stinky Beaumont

re: #75 VegasRick

I am praying that you left off the sarc tag, but I don't think you did.

Sounds like an accurate description...

re: #67 experiencedtraveller

I thought Fred was old and soft from the beginning...

So did his wife, hence the Viagra IV drip...

Tonight's theme music

Things are looking better here in the OC, although the winds seem to be picking up again. Yorba Linda and AH took quite a beating today.

Very sporadic winds. It's like Russsina Roulette as to which house may go up next.

re: #18 Charles

Mike Huckabee is doing a media blitz. He's going to ingratiate himself to America even if he has to talk to Oliver Stone to do it.

*BARF*

re: #64 I heart the USA

Well, if the GOP wants to take the fight to the Dems, Tom DeLay would certainly take no prisoners as RNC chair! No Marquess of Queensbury rules with him, LOL!

taking the fight to them, he would do. Expanded the RNC, he would not! He's too caustic, to grading. What we need is NUMBERS. We need someone who is engaging. Someone who is personable I do NOT conjure up an image of Delay when I think of those two words

IMHO

Another note about song_and_dance_man, for those keeping score. He apparently registered a Yahoo email address, icaruscharles@yahoo.com, used the name 'Charles Johnson' on the account, and sent this email at 4:39 pm today with the subject "song_and_dance_man obsession":

Don't amuse me bro

ha

sadm

I'm publicizing this on purpose, with a sincere middle finger to this chump.

If you get an email with my name and this address, toss it in the trash, please.

re: #78 notutopia

How have you managed to do that with all the spiked fruit cup served?

That's all I eat (drink).
/

re: #70 livefreeor die

If we had combined him and Rudy, we could have had a viable candidate whose heart was completely in it.

Neither (even combined) would of beat Obama.

We should face the facts that McCain/Palin ran a real good race for an overwhelmingly democratic election. The future lies in the strengths of McCain/Palin.

re: #52 The Sanity Inspector

Too bad Fred Thompson didn't run as if he meant it.

Ol' Fred sure made McCain look like a winner by comparison.

re: #18 Charles

Mike Huckabee is doing a media blitz. He's going to ingratiate himself to America even if he has to talk to Oliver Stone to do it.

Why the hell do Conservative pols (or wannabees) feel the need to schmooze with flaming Libs? Are they that devoid of friends of like mind?

re: #64 I heart the USA

re: #84 sattv4u2

taking the fight to them, he would do. Expanded the RNC, he would not! He's too caustic, to grading. What we need is NUMBERS. We need someone who is engaging. Someone who is personable I do NOT conjure up an image of Delay when I think of those two words

IMHO

GRATING ,,
PIMF

re: #85 Charles

Sounds like he has the makings of an Internet stalker. I remember that he got kicked off awhile back -- has he been harassing you lately?

re: #89 6pat6

Why the hell do Conservative pols (or wannabees) feel the need to schmooze with flaming Libs? Are they that devoid of friends of like mind?

Conservatives don't have that need, only moderate to leftist Republicans want the adulation of the libs.

Welcome to the Barack Hussein Obama Presidential Library! (We aren't shy of using his middle name any more!)

[Link: img186.imageshack.us...]

As you approach the Library, you are immediately blinded by the sun-like radiance emanating from His Eminence's mighty gold-plated statue, which is approximately ten feet taller than the Statue of Liberty (before it was destroyed in the tragedy of 2011). You can pause to read the inscription by Maya Angelou projected on the base: "By the rainbow's pulse, the sun of a new dawn rises upon the land, the indigo giant arises, the oceans fall, heed His call, O citizen of the world!"

Not to be outdone, the gleaming marble of the massive Main Hall (the Temple of Obama) now greets your eyes. White fluted columns support it. You mount the 57 steps and enter the citadel. What will greet you there? It changes day to day. A Code Pink/Breasts Not Bombs dance? A UN child choir concert? An Obama film festival? But always you will behold the Great Seal of Obama upon the marble floor, the permanent display of Revolutionary art, and ongoing services in the Worship Hall (you may have to visit the Secondary Worship Hall, as the Muslim worshipers have forced almost all infidels out of the main sanctuary).

Going on, you enter "The Bus," which pays tribute to the many influences on Obama's life. In this long building are halls for Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinsky, ACORN, the Reverend Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Father Phleger, Bill Ayers, Rashid Khalidi, and many others.

The Bus passes over the Meditation Gardens and the huge Meditation Pools. Stop, enjoy a latte, and listen to the gently lapping waters and flowing fountains as you breathe in the scents of the 100% organic gardens. For $50 you can rent a paddle-boat.

Off by itself across the South Pool is the Hall of Sealed Records. You can't go there. All potentially incriminating stuff from Obama's past and his years in the White House is in there under lock and key, until the last of his political enemies who might dare attempt to stain his glorious legacy is eliminated. Some particularly sensitive material has already been shredded and atomized. (But his nirth certificate is still there!)

We hope you've enjoyed your visit. Please visit the gift shop back in the main hall and pick up your Obama booty and signed copies of his biographies (purchase several of each). You can also get your copy of 6,785 page Global Constitution, to which Obama was the first signatory!

re: #85 Charles

Wow, thats nuts.

re: #85 Charles

Another note about song_and_dance_man, for those keeping score. He apparently registered a Yahoo email address, icaruscharles@yahoo.com, and used the name 'Charles Johnson' to send this email with the subject "song_and_dance_man obsession":

I'm publicizing this on purpose, with a sincere middle finger to this chump.

If you get an email with my name and this address, toss it in the trash, please.

There is no excuse for this...

"You can't subsidize failure." "This isn't the Soviet Union."
-Mark Levin on bailing out the auto industry.

Sorry I was listening to his latest show. This guy is great. Some find his voice annoying but I love it...

re: #89 6pat6

Why the hell do Conservative pols (or wannabees) feel the need to schmooze with flaming Libs? Are they that devoid of friends of like mind?

Speaking for the hubby and I, the last thing we want to do right now is schmooze with flaming liberals. But we're not politicians so maybe we're missing something...

re: #89 6pat6

Why the hell do Conservative pols (or wannabees) feel the need to schmooze with flaming Libs? Are they that devoid of friends of like mind?

He (Huck) wants publicity. What conservative media outlets would you propose?

Willie Sutton said it best.

re: #68 6pat6

Free, hell! When were you there last? You're lucky to eat anything other than fast food in Vegas for less than fifteen bucks, and that includes the buffets! They want you to gamble, not eat.

Absolutely! Thats why I quit going. No deals. Family oriented. Might as well stick to the Indian casinos and horse/dog tracks to get the fix.

re: #95 HoosierHoops

There is no excuse for this...

I certainly hope you mean no excuse for song_and_dance_man's behaviour. ;)

re: #96 Basho

"You can't subsidize failure." "This isn't the Soviet Union."
-Mark Levin on bailing out the auto industry.

Sorry I was listening to his latest show. This guy is great. Some find his voice annoying but I love it...

He's adding a third hour to his show after the first of the year.

re: #92 FurryOldGuyJeans

Conservatives don't have that need, only moderate to leftist Republicans want the adulation of the libs.

I would disagree. Look at Gov Palin. She actually tried to get on Orpah the Killer Whale's show! WTF? See what I mean?

re: #97 livefreeor die

Speaking for the hubby and I, the last thing we want to do right now is schmooze with flaming liberals. But we're not politicians so maybe we're missing something...

A severe headache?

Image: bhopresidentiallibraryqd3.jpgre: #93

Tigger2005

Welcome to the Barack Hussein Obama Presidential Library! (We aren't shy of using his middle name any more!)

[Link: img186.imageshack.us...]

As you approach the Library, you are immediately blinded by the sun-like radiance emanating from His Eminence's mighty gold-plated statue, which is approximately ten feet taller than the Statue of Liberty (before it was destroyed in the tragedy of 2011). You can pause to read the inscription by Maya Angelou projected on the base: "By the rainbow's pulse, the sun of a new dawn rises upon the land, the indigo giant arises, the oceans fall, heed His call, O citizen of the world!"

Not to be outdone, the gleaming marble of the massive Main Hall (the Temple of Obama) now greets your eyes. White fluted columns support it. You mount the 57 steps and enter the citadel. What will greet you there? It changes day to day. A Code Pink/Breasts Not Bombs dance? A UN child choir concert? An Obama film festival? But always you will behold the Great Seal of Obama upon the marble floor, the permanent display of Revolutionary art, and ongoing services in the Worship Hall (you may have to visit the Secondary Worship Hall, as the Muslim worshipers have forced almost all infidels out of the main sanctuary).

Going on, you enter "The Bus," which pays tribute to the many influences on Obama's life. In this long building are halls for Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinsky, ACORN, the Reverend Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Father Phleger, Bill Ayers, Rashid Khalidi, and many others.

The Bus passes over the Meditation Gardens and the huge Meditation Pools. Stop, enjoy a latte, and listen to the gently lapping waters and flowing fountains as you breathe in the scents of the 100% organic gardens. For $50 you can rent a paddle-boat.

Off by itself across the South Pool is the Hall of Sealed Records. You can't go there. All potentially incriminating stuff from Obama's past and his years in the White House is in there under lock and key, until the last of his political enemies who might dare attempt to stain his glorious legacy is eliminated. Some particularly sensitive material has already been shredded and atomized. (But his nirth certificate is still there!)

We hope you've enjoyed your visit. Please visit the gift shop back in the main hall and pick up your Obama booty and signed copies of his biographies (purchase several of each). You can also get your copy of 6,785 page Global Constitution, to which Obama was the first signatory!

re: #86 VegasRick

Liver Ouch!
:)

re: #98 razorbacker

He (Huck) wants publicity. What conservative media outlets would you propose?

Willie Sutton said it best.

"Because that's where the money is"?

re: #10 6pat6

California Fire Season. Sorta like Tornado Season in the Midwest. You know it is coming, you know people are going to lose all their stuff, yet it's simply amazing to watch every year (I've been through the tornado shit personally).

A lot of the fires -- including the ones burning now -- are in areas where the house prices read like telephone numbers. Some of them read like long-distance telephone numbers.

Sympathy is warring with schadenfreude. I'm not sure which is going to win.

IMHO, one of the prettiest songs ever written -- perfect for sunset/early evening. (We'll disregard the band's moonbat politics...)

re: #103 VegasRick

A severe headache?

That and indigestion. And bruised knuckles from punching the wall.

re: #106 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Si.

re: #100 FurryOldGuyJeans

I certainly hope you mean no excuse for song_and_dance_man's behaviour. ;)

absolutely ..
I really feel sorry for charles sometimes..people can be so wierd

re: #87 experiencedtraveller

A really good race?
I think it was a bit meandering for a message most of the time.
It needed Joe the plummer to get any traction at all.
McCain could have gain major ground by coming out strong against any type of bail out.

re: #102 6pat6

I would disagree. Look at Gov Palin. She actually tried to get on Orpah the Killer Whale's show! WTF? See what I mean?

Once is not what the Huckster is doing. But then I can never accuse him of being conservative.

re: #99 VMA211Dan

Absolutely! Thats why I quit going. No deals. Family oriented. Might as well stick to the Indian casinos and horse/dog tracks to get the fix.

You don't know the Vegas I do, 24/7 T&A if you like.

re: #84 sattv4u2

taking the fight to them, he would do. Expanded the RNC, he would not! He's too caustic, to grading. What we need is NUMBERS. We need someone who is engaging. Someone who is personable I do NOT conjure up an image of Delay when I think of those two words

IMHO

I don't know...there is a reason he earned the "Velvet Hammer" moniker. Is there a correlation between how personable a party chairman is and party numbers? How many people even KNOW who the head of the RNC or DNC is? Can you get much more grating than Howard Dean? I doubt that his caustic personality offset in any meaningful way public dissatisfaction with the current administration; Dem registration increased. We don't need pretty; we need effective.

re: #102 6pat6

I would disagree. Look at Gov Palin. She actually tried to get on Orpah the Killer Whale's show! WTF? See what I mean?

yeah ,,, why would a WOMAN vp candidate want to go on a show run by a WOMAN produced for WOMEN and watched by WOMEN!
Lunacy !

/ need I !?!?!

A lot of the fires -- including the ones burning now -- are in areas where the house prices read like telephone numbers. Some of them read like long-distance telephone numbers.

Sympathy is warring with schadenfreude. I'm not sure which is going to win.

Maybe, but a mobile-home development with poor/retired people just got wiped out by the fires.

re: #116 sattv4u2

yeah ,,, why would a WOMAN vp candidate want to go on a show run by a WOMAN produced for WOMEN and watched by WOMEN!
Lunacy !

/ need I !?!?!

You mean no girly men allowed? POSH! ;)

re: #113 FurryOldGuyJeans

As I said, Conservative (or wannabees). Huckabee is a wannabee, but the Huckster more appropriately describes him.

re: #112 n in wi

Well...

It is what is was.

I think the deck was stacked (D) in this one.

re: #84 sattv4u2

taking the fight to them, he would do. Expanded the RNC, he would not! He's too caustic, to grading. What we need is NUMBERS. We need someone who is engaging. Someone who is personable I do NOT conjure up an image of Delay when I think of those two words

IMHO

We will get the numbers if we stick to conservative values. The GOP has lost its way. Back to the principles and the numbers will come.

re: #118 FurryOldGuyJeans

You mean no girly men allowed? POSH! ;)

hey ,, they vote too! I know a few Log Cabin Republicans. Hell,, they're further right than ME!

For all of you who were merrily trashing the unions a couple of threads back, a little tale from Studs Terkel, who died at the age of 96 on October 31:

About 25 years ago, Studs Terkel was waiting for a number 146 bus alongside two well-groomed business types. "This was before the term yuppie was used," he explains. "But that was what they were. He was in Brooks Brothers and Gucci shoes and carrying the Wall Street Journal under his arm. She was a looker. I mean stunning - Bloomingdales and Neiman Marcus and carrying Vanity Fair."

Terkel, who is 95, has long been a Chicago icon, every bit as accessible and integral to the cultural life of the Windy City as Susan Sontag was to New York. He had shared the bus stop with this couple for several mornings but they had always failed to acknowledge him. "It hurts my ego," he quips. "But this morning the bus was late and I thought, this is my chance." The rest of the story is his.

"I say, 'Labour Day is coming up.' Well, it was the wrong thing to say. He looks toward me with a look of such contempt it's like Noel Coward has just spotted a bug on his collar. He says, 'We despise unions.' I thought, oooh. The bus is still late. I've got a winner here. Suddenly I'm the ancient mariner and I fix him with my glittering eye. 'How many hours a day do you work?' I ask. He says, 'Eight.' 'How comes you don't work 18 hours a day like your great-great-grandfather did? You know why? Because four guys got hanged in Chicago in 1886 fighting for the eight-hour day ... For you.'

"Well, he was scared and nervous and the bus was still late. I've got this guy pinned up against the mailbox. He couldn't get away. 'How many days a week do you work?' I went on. Well, then the bus came and I never saw them again. But I think that every workday morning she was looking from the 15th floor of their apartment block to see if that mad man was still there."

And by the way, all those European car drivers out there? Your cars are also union built. I know. I worked as a vacation replacement for Daimler Benz when I was a student in Germany. Helped me get through university. See, the union workers there got six week vacations and could take them all in one chunk.

The European manufacturers still have union labor forces, and they still turn out cars, and people still buy them. The unions are not what destroyed US auto companies.

re: #99 VMA211Dan

They went away from "family-friendly" around 2000 or so. That experiment didn't last long.

re: #120 experiencedtraveller

Agreed

re: #102 6pat6

I would disagree. Look at Gov Palin. She actually tried to get on Orpah the Killer Whale's show! WTF? See what I mean?

Did she try to do that, or did the McCain staffers try to do that?

re: #42 scott in east bay

My Bears got their butts chewed by the Beavers today...
Nothing better that the sunsets from Berkeley / Oakland hills.

re: #116 sattv4u2

Did she get on? No. See?

re: #114 VegasRick

You don't know the Vegas I do, 24/7 T&A if you like.

Yeah, if you're a guy, you can't walk 5 feet without being offered a brochure.

re: #121 VMA211Dan

We will get the numbers if we stick to conservative values. The GOP has lost its way. Back to the principles and the numbers will come.

Then Steele is a good choice. He has those values, is a "new" face, comes with no baggage, and if he can pry away some African Americans from the dark side thats just a bonus!

re: #85 Charles
It's kinda like being stalked. Very creepy.

re: #50 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Guess I don't wanna know that bad...

re: #120 experiencedtraveller

Yup. Fifty cards (D), two (R), and a couple of jokers.

re: #128 6pat6

Did she get on? No. See?

so are you pissed that she treid to get on, or are you pissed that she didn't get on?

(does the word SCHIZO ring a bell)

re: #96 Basho

"You can't subsidize failure." "This isn't the Soviet Union."
-Mark Levin on bailing out the auto industry.

Sorry I was listening to his latest show. This guy is great. Some find his voice annoying but I love it...

i love him.

re: #116 sattv4u2

yeah ,,, why would a WOMAN vp candidate want to go on a show run by a WOMAN produced for WOMEN and watched by WOMEN!
Lunacy !

/ need I !?!?!

I've been to Oprah's show twice- To see Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons right after KISS stopped wearing make-up, and to see Michael Jordan about 10 years ago.

re: #62 Charles
Mine's a Cervelo R2.5
Pedals itself...damn near

re: #102 6pat6

I would disagree. Look at Gov Palin. She actually tried to get on Orpah the Killer Whale's show! WTF? See what I mean?

What! Proof please! I don 't believe you. Why would Palin go on that show?

re: #127 CalBear84

My Bears got their butts chewed by the Beavers today...
Nothing better that the sunsets from Berkeley / Oakland hills.

I agree...speaking of calbears.. I love your school and they did not admit me..
I wasn't smart enough..although i never climbed trees and pooped on police officers..
I'm still bitter..
/not really

re: #126 I heart the USA

Did she try to do that, or did the McCain staffers try to do that?

And even if she did there was an election on so raising exposure was needed. What the Huckster is doing is being a media whore.

re: #123 Cato the Elder

Unions are the very definition of a necessary evil, like cops, or anti-discrimination laws. They may abuse their powers and seem to be unneccessary, but do you really want to live in a world where they didn't exist?

re: #132 CalBear84

Guess I don't wanna know that bad...

I told you in my #63, Cal

re: #63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
OHHH...
well in that case, I'm glad I don't know about him

re: #138 VMA211Dan

What! Proof please! I don 't believe you. Why would Palin go on that show?

see my #116

re: #134 sattv4u2

I'm pissed she even tried! Oprah, and that other man-hating bitchfest View, are NOT the places for people with principle to go to air their views.

re: #127 CalBear84

DID some one say beavers?

re: #31 livefreeor die

Now that he's the president, I think Barry is going to have a lot more "Oh s---" moments like this when he has to actually consider the implications of things he stridently promised to do (in this link, closing Gitmo and what to do with the detainees).

That's why I'm investing in popcorn.

Watching all the leftard exploding heads promises to be fun.

re: #85 Charles

Wow. Damn, I used to dig that dude. Creepy as hell.

re: #139 HoosierHoops

Spent 4 years there undergrad, then 4 years at the optometry school...
went in conservative, came out more so!

re: #127 CalBear84

My Bears got their butts chewed by the Beavers today...

/leave it alone, Noam.

re: #145 6pat6

I'm pissed she even tried! Oprah, and that other man-hating bitchfest View, are NOT the places for people with principle to go to air their views.

I see ,,, so you agree with Obama and the Dems for boycotting Fox ?

re: #147 Steffan

That's why I'm investing in popcorn.

Watching all the leftard exploding heads promises to be fun.

Yes, popcorn and gun sales have skyrocketed in the last few days!

re: #123 Cato the Elder

I would absolutely love to hear what you think caused the big 3's demise.

re: #138 VMA211Dan

I'm not going to look it up, you can, as it is well-known that she (or her people) were trying to get on that show, and (allegedly) the Whale refused to have her on, since she is a giant B-HO supporter from the beginning.

re: #65 taxfreekiller

The American middle class vote is swamped in a sea of new voters, utterly ignorant of American culture and economics. The elite want absolute control. Locally, I have heard testimony to the disgusting motives of those who use the illegal status to threaten and demean their employees.

re: #145 6pat6

I'm pissed she even tried! Oprah, and that other man-hating bitchfest View, are NOT the places for people with principle to go to air their views.

re: #151 sattv4u2

I see ,,, so you agree with Obama and the Dems for boycotting Fox ?

You beleive that we should only 'Preach To The Choir" !?!?!

re: #77 The Sanity Inspector

Prettiest sunsets I ever saw were in the 80s, when first Mt. St. Helens and then El Chinchon blew up.

The Pinatubo eruption in '91 was nothing to sneeze at either.

So to speak.

re: #115 I heart the USA
As the old saying goes, 'pretty is as pretty does'.
We need a middle conservative who is effective, informed, honest, constitutionally sound loyalist, and a damned good public speaker. And I mean talks how they believes with no pauses to consider political correctness, because they don't need to. No teleprompter assist required.

The antidote to ACORN
POPCORN
People
Of
Principle
Can
Organize
Reform
Now

re: #124 6pat6

They went away from "family-friendly" around 2000 or so. That experiment didn't last long.

OK, I'll give them another shot. But I still want my cheap hotel and buffet.

re: #35 Charles

Not to mention Bill Maher about his Religiosity film. Huckabee's daring. He lives on the edge.

Maybe he should audition for American Idol.

re: #141 mikalm

Unions are the very definition of a necessary evil, like cops, or anti-discrimination laws. They may abuse their powers and seem to be unneccessary, but do you really want to live in a world where they didn't exist?

Yes, as far as the unions go.

re: #69 sattv4u2

I'll have what he's having...

re: #151 sattv4u2

WTF are you talking about? Fox refused to carry B-HOs water like a good network. B-HO and the Jackasses boycotted them. Your point?

re: #149 CalBear84

Spent 4 years there undergrad, then 4 years at the optometry school...
went in conservative, came out more so!

Napa JuCo then Sonoma State..
I stand in awe of you..Cal is impossible to get in

re: #133 6pat6

Yup. Fifty cards (D), two (R), and a couple of jokers.

I believe the extensive and shameful political coverage by the media created the environment of the inevitable (D).

The hysteria and cowardice of the Iraq War coverage is a disgrace.

The insanity of the Katrina coverage is a case study for future media students.

All are simply road-marks on an evolving political reality. (D) won. Lets see what we can do from here.

re: #154 6pat6

I'm not going to look it up, you can, as it is well-known that she (or her people) were trying to get on that show, and (allegedly) the Whale refused to have her on, since she is a giant B-HO supporter from the beginning.

So trying to have a chance to show that she (Palin) is nothing like what the Left portrayed her as is now a bad thing? Having principles of willfully ignoring a large bloc of people is going to be electoral death.

re: #156 sattv4u2

Those are hostile crowds anyway. What would be the point?

re: #146 yochanan

DID some one say beavers?

Well, I did mention T&A awhile back!

re: #104 Tigger2005

I hope Rush gets this out, and reads that post on-air. Would be priceless.

re: #156 sattv4u2

You beleive that we should only 'Preach To The Choir" !?!?!

Apparently we should ignore all of those who don't believe the same as we do.

Strange how that sounds a lot like what the Libs have always expressed.

re: #72 jcm

Thanks JCM...concise and informative.

re: #127 CalBear84

My Bears got their butts chewed by the Beavers today...
Nothing better that the sunsets from Berkeley / Oakland hills.

I think Beavers chewing on Bears butts is much better than Bears chewing on,
Well never mind.

re: #123 Cato the Elder

You're right, every worker at GM should get a 6 week vacation and a big raise!

Actually, I think they should fire every last executive and promote the actual guys building these cars. Then, hire away some designers from the Japanese companies and tell all the workers they are taking a pay cut and a reduction in benefits. And, as much as it hurts, cut some of the benefits from the retirees.

Too high of a liability with the retirees, too high labor costs, too many unimaginative designs all conducted in a 1950's time warp business model. Welcome to the 2000's GM.

It would be very foolish to "bail out" big Auto if they plan on conducting business as usual once they get their billions.

re: #167 FurryOldGuyJeans

Most of the Loony Left made up their minds long ago. If a person was an "undecided" before around April '08, hopefully they didn't bother to vote. Going on one of those L3 shows is counter-productive.

re: #79 reine.de.tout

That's a SERIOUS wrench

re: #123 Cato the Elder

The car manufacturers may have put the noose around their own neck by producing shoddy merchandise but the unions certainly helped pull the switch that opened the trap door.

re: #164 6pat6

WTF are you talking about? Fox refused to carry B-HOs water like a good network. B-HO and the Jackasses boycotted them. Your point?

re-read my comments. My "point" is crystal clear. In one post, you're pissed that Palin tried to get on Oprah. In the next breath, you're pissed that Oprah turned her down. Then you rail against a conservative going on a show that tilts hard left. Then in the next post you admonish Obama for boycotting Fox
Medically, i'm not sure whats wrong with you ,,, but I'll bet it's hard to spell!

North from Del Taco at Rose and Imperial.

West from Del Taco at Rose and Imperial.

Amazingly, directly east from Del Taco at Rose and Imperial.

Directly up Carbon Canyon from the top of Valley View.

Directly across Carbon Canyon Road from the top of Valley View.

North from the top of Valley View.

Right now, we just have to work with what we have and improve dramatically in it!

re: #171 FurryOldGuyJeans

Apparently we should ignore all of those who don't believe the same as we do.

Strange how that sounds a lot like what the Libs have always expressed.

good way to lose even MORE elections in the future!

re: #178 sattv4u2

Whatever. you and I have gone around before, and quite frankly, you are simply annoyiing at best. Bye.

re: #175 6pat6

Most of the Loony Left made up their minds long ago. If a person was an "undecided" before around April '08, hopefully they didn't bother to vote. Going on one of those L3 shows is counter-productive.

You certainly are an advocate of slash and burn like the KosKiddies. I prefer someone in charge that takes the time to represent ALL of the people who voted for them, no matter which side of the political aisle they are on. Doesn't mean one has to give up their core values to pander.

re: #182 6pat6

Whatever. you and I have gone around before, and quite frankly, you are simply annoyiing at best. Bye.

TRANSLATION ,, "I really can't intellectually debate you, so I'll call you annoying. I win!"

re: #19 NTropy

Be prepared, just IN CASE. Better to unload the car, than be packing in a panic!

re: #154 6pat6

I'm not going to look it up, you can, as it is well-known that she (or her people) were trying to get on that show, and (allegedly) the Whale refused to have her on, since she is a giant B-HO supporter from the beginning.

I think there was a brouhaha about Oprah fans boycotting her show if she wouldn't have Palin on. That was early after the convention. Nothing since. Oprah not friendly, like Katie and Charles. Why do it? Obama never did Rush, Sean, Mark, Laura,etc.

re: #182 6pat6

Whatever. you and I have gone around before, and quite frankly, you are simply annoyiing at best. Bye.

Translation: "I lost and want to pout in private now". PAH THET IC!

re: #108 mikalm

re: #187 FurryOldGuyJeans

Translation: "I lost and want to pout in private now". PAH THET IC!

GMTA ,,, (see my 184)

re: #189 sattv4u2

GMTA ,,, (see my 184)

In my case more like perverted minds... ;)

re: #190 FurryOldGuyJeans

In my case more like perverted minds... ;)

The gutter is a step up to me !

re: #140 FurryOldGuyJeans

And even if she did there was an election on so raising exposure was needed. What the Huckster is doing is being a media whore.

I find I can't be objective about Huckabee's motives. He is witty, has a good sense of humor, but I have not liked him from the get-go. And I hated that my dislike of him was almost purely an emotional reaction - that is so, so...liberal!

re: #139 HoosierHoops

You should have done BOTH...then written about it in your admissions essay! You'd be in, no problem.

re: #117 mikalm

They've already called that fire arson. How could anyone do that?

re: #192 I heart the USA

I find I can't be objective about Huckabee's motives. He is witty, has a good sense of humor, but I have not liked him from the get-go. And I hated that my dislike of him was almost purely an emotional reaction - that is so, so...liberal!

My dislike of the man stemmed purely from his policies he was originally advocating and then blossomed with the media whore antics he was and is so fond of doing.

re: #146 yochanan

re: #150 Noam Sayin'

The possibilities are endless...

re: #165 HoosierHoops

Thanks my friend.
One of my son's pals goes to Sonoma St.
He loves it there.

re: #85 Charles

Ya know, there's something out there in the world that's called "a life."

He really should try to find one.

OT - Decided to take the dog for a walk in nearby Kensington Metropark, during a break in the rain/snow. It was invigorating for both of us. Way too much time spent indoors of late, worrying about politics, the economy, and illness in the family.

We saw several deer, including a nice buck with at least 8 pts on his rack. I'm not a hunter, but I'm not against hunting -- in fact, they have had to hold brief hunts in this park, due to the overpopulation of deer, despite its location close to residential areas. I think they restrict it to bow-hunting and shotguns.

We also managed to sneak up on a Great Blue Heron, doing a little fishing on his way south. He was only about 30 yards away from us, about 10 feet into the water, which reached his knees at that point. He snatched a fish out of the water with such speed, I'm not sure I would have seen him move, if I hadn't seen him horking it down afterwards, his neck elongated towards the sky. He appeared to give us a look then, kind of like "How'd you like that one, boys?", before flying off towards the treeline.

Is there a bird on earth that looks more dinosaur-ish, than the big heron? I don't think so. Maybe an ostrich or an emu, but the fierce, predatory look in that heron's yellow eye seemed right out of a book of imaginatively-illustrated dinosaurs. In flight, it looked just like a pterodactyl. Admittedly, it was a little dark and foggy out there, and my eyesight isn't 20/20 anymore. ;)

re: #192 I heart the USA

I find I can't be objective about Huckabee's motives. He is witty, has a good sense of humor, but I have not liked him from the get-go. And I hated that my dislike of him was almost purely an emotional reaction - that is so, so...liberal!

Huckabee is growing on me, the more I see him the more I like him. For prez? I don't know. But I like the man.

re: #192 I heart the USA

Trusting your emotions is not relegated just to LIBERALS. :)
I am sure if you search your gut level decision, you will find the core reason you elected to not support him as the best candidate.

RE the fires
Why are they not using the water bomber planes that Can, QC recently sent?
There are 4 planes there! CL-415.
Just so unnecessary to let homes burn, good grief the fact they had low winds all day ... would have knocked it back pretty quick.
They scoop salt water to boot, no need to land and fill, just scoop 12 secs and go drop the water and retardant! 6.5 tonnes(sp) per load.

Just doesn't make sense to me.

re: #48 razorbacker

This is one heck of a coincidence:

The owners of a Huntsville motel insist their decision to replace the United States flag with a Confederate flag following Barack Obama's victory last week in the Presidential election had nothing to do with race. In a written statement to The Record, the owners of the Faubus Motel did say that the reason for the change in flags was politically driven.

I had to check to see if that wasn't from the Onion. Anyone flying a Confederate flag over a motel with the same name as one of the most well-known segregationist governors should know what to expect. The owner can't be that tone-deaf.

re: #179 NTropy

I was looking north (from San Diego) tonight at sunset.
Could see a mammoth wall of smoke extending out about 20 miles into the Pacific.
Sheesh.

re: #194 Floral Giraffe

They've already called that fire arson. How could anyone do that?

Like I said on a previous thread. Down here in SW Florida, It's always some dumbass kid. Drives me nuts.

re: #203 justadot

This is one heck of a coincidence:

I had to check to see if that wasn't from the Onion. Anyone flying a Confederate flag over a motel with the same name as one of the most well-known segregationist governors should know what to expect. The owner can't be that tone-deaf.

Faubus' don't own it anymore.

Though they do own the paper.

It's amazing how obsessive and vindictive the banned are. Charles has spawned an entire sub-culture with several blogs devoted to the banned.

re: #108 mikalm

As I was trying to say on #188,
great song!
All that coke rotted Crosby's brain.
He's an ubermoonbat.

Oh, and PIMF

re: #182 6pat6

You probably have left, but let me make this simple for you ( a How The Political World Works free tutorial)

Oprah is watched by MILLIONS
Palin has an engaging persona
If she sways just 100 people out of those millions, you're talking about a swing of 200 votes (the 100 she now gets, the 100 Obama now doesn't)
Minnesota,,, Coleman / Franken,,, I beleive the difference is ,,,
200 VOTES !

What if that were the states Presidential difference/ You're talking about a states Electoral Votes !

No Charge

So far I can remain thankful for where I live in Yorba Linda. Plenty of stinky smoke but no evacuations for my part of the city. My pastor and his family as well as many others from my church are not so lucky.l

re: #117 mikalm

Maybe, but a mobile-home development with poor/retired people just got wiped out by the fires.

It's been described on the news as "a very nice middle-class community."

I've driven by that trailer park, and I have nothing but sympathy for them. I know some people in the evacuation area.

The real problem is people building houses in places they shouldn't.

re: #199 garycooper
Come to my office and I'll make you some glasses!

re: #201 notutopia

Trusting your emotions is not relegated just to LIBERALS. :)
I am sure if you search your gut level decision, you will find the core reason you elected to not support him as the best candidate.

You're right. If I were a lefty-loon, I would have gone no further than my emotional reaction and never even considered what he had to say policy-related. But I did listen to him; just wasn't impressed and could not rid myself of a feeling of mistrust toward him.

re: #207 Rancher

I wonder how many of the banned have learned anything useful from the experience. It was obviously uncomfortable for some. How many over the years have made any atonement to him after an awakening from the vindictive obsession?

re: #199 garycooper

In reading your post made me smile, we just gave up the big city life to live very rural. Some sacrifices, but it's so peaceful, serene, clean and worth it. We see a Blue Heron most days since we've moved here four months ago, although I believe it's migrated now. Have a stream flanking the side of our property and she's a young one, hope she returns.
Last Monday night we were out driving just before sunset. saw literally thousands upon thousands of geese stretched across the sky heading south finally. The snow geese are next as they are still flocked in the cut farm fields.
This morning at sunrise, a male deer on our lot easy seen through the dining room windows, we're getting some nice pictures.

re: #206 razorbacker

Got ya.

Funny thing is, if they changed the motel to their name - Vandiver - it's still be the name of a segregation-era governor, from my home state.

re: #202 leap_frog

RE the fires
Why are they not using the water bomber planes that Can, QC recently sent?
There are 4 planes there! CL-415.
Just so unnecessary to let homes burn, good grief the fact they had low winds all day ... would have knocked it back pretty quick.

Don't know about all fire areas, but I am not far from the Sylmar fire area and winds have been high all day.

re: #214 notutopia

I wonder how many of the banned have learned anything useful from the experience. It was obviously uncomfortable for some. How many over the years have made any atonement to him after an awakening from the vindictive obsession?

Charles has psoted that some have asked for re-instatement. Some currnet lizards also e-mail or post on behalf of the banned. i know one case where he DID re-instate someone, only to boot them a very short time later (deservedly so, from what I read, BTW)

re: #126 I heart the USA

Did she try to do that, or did the McCain staffers try to do that?

It was the staffers. Of course, now that she's lost, Oprah is frantic to get her on the show. I hope she tells Oprah to stuff it.

re: #207 Rancher

It's amazing how obsessive and vindictive the banned are. Charles has spawned an entire sub-culture with several blogs devoted to the banned.

Like my ex-wife, most of them seem to prove that Charles made the right decision over and over.

re: #216 justadot

Got ya.

Funny thing is, if they changed the motel to their name - Vandiver - it's still be the name of a segregation-era governor, from my home state.

Some folks don't know that Orval's dad was Gus Faubus, a well-known (in these parts) socialist.

There were some around in the olden days, up in the hills.

re: #214 notutopia

I wonder how many of the banned have learned anything useful from the experience. It was obviously uncomfortable for some. How many over the years have made any atonement to him after an awakening from the vindictive obsession?

I'm not understanding the vindictiveness.
the rules are clear.
there are warnings.
and some folks push and push and push.
then they're shocked and angry when they are banned.
no logic to it

re: #217 I heart the USA

Oh, my bad the weather channel I checked said low...
But the expert at home here, says, the winds are not that influential on the planes ability to work. Very gusty winds might make it harder to target but not enough to prevent the plane from performing water drops.
Now scooping is a bit different if the water is choppy, can still be accomplished in waves as high three feet tho.
Then it can be dangerous, and they are expensive little work horses.

re: #219 Steffan

It was the staffers. Of course, now that she's lost, Oprah is frantic to get her on the show. I hope she tells Oprah to stuff it.

I'd personally like to see Gov. Palin tell it to her face...on her show!

re: #221 razorbacker

Thanks, I didn't know that. I see where Gov. Faubus got his middle name Eugene – from Eugene V. Debs.

re: #222 reine.de.tout

Believe me literally when I say this. People push and then keep pushing past explicit boundaries because they WANT to be told this is the end limit.
Then they are crushed and vindictive with the consequences of their actions.
I absolutely have no qualms with limits or boundary setting.
I wonder however, if any over the years if any have made honest awakenings and have made verbal atonement to him(actually admitted they realize now what they had done) as a result of personal growth.

Just to also step in it...
I recall the OPRAH nonsense of not having Palin on.
She only wanted to hear from the ones hollywood approved of IMHO.
Wasn't it that half her staff wanted Palin on?

re: #199 garycooper

Well, they say that birds are the direct descendants of dinosaurs.

Keep in mind that they built an R/C airplane along the lines of a pterodactyl. It flew.

As a matter of fact, I think you can buy it online...

re: #214 notutopia

I wonder how many of the banned have learned anything useful from the experience. It was obviously uncomfortable for some. How many over the years have made any atonement to him after an awakening from the vindictive obsession?

Mama Winger was banned, got reinstated, learned nothing and was banned again,.

re: #223 leap_frog

Oh, my bad the weather channel I checked said low...
But the expert at home here, says, the winds are not that influential on the planes ability to work. Very gusty winds might make it harder to target but not enough to prevent the plane from performing water drops.
Now scooping is a bit different if the water is choppy, can still be accomplished in waves as high three feet tho.
Then it can be dangerous, and they are expensive little work horses.

Around here we normally see water-dropping helicopters. I don't know how they are affected by high winds, but I'm sure someone else here does. As far as planes, might they be limited in use in canyon areas (of which there are MANY in my area)?

re: #212 CalBear84

Come to my office and I'll make you some glasses!

Oh, I have glasses. Contacts, too. I just don't bother wearing them, unless I'm driving or reading. And I need reading glasses for reading.

re: #226 notutopia

Believe me literally when I say this. People push and then keep pushing past explicit boundaries because they WANT to be told this is the end limit.
Then they are crushed and vindictive with the consequences of their actions.
I absolutely have no qualms with limits or boundary setting.
I wonder however, if any over the years if any have made honest awakenings and have made verbal atonement to him(actually admitted they realize now what they had done) as a result of personal growth.

not likely.

Nope I heart the USA, they do canyons and cliffs very well.

Here's a couple of examples and the plane is built TOUGH!
They are designed to take the load, 10 times the required apparently.

re: #228 Steffan

Well, they say that birds are the direct descendants of dinosaurs.

Keep in mind that they built an R/C airplane along the lines of a pterodactyl. It flew.

As a matter of fact, I think you can buy it online...

It would be fun to fly a pterodactyl by r/c. Didn't I see that in a movie, once? Some reclusive "mad scientist" type had a life-sized pterodactyl-model, he was flying around his remote cabin. Can't recall the movie, but I'm pretty sure it was sci-fi.

Helicopters are weak in the wind.
Although great on target they can't carry as much of a load.
Must load in a safer area and always need refueling before the yellow planes do.
Bombers can last about 4 hours without touching the ground.

re: #234 garycooper

It would be fun to fly a pterodactyl by r/c. Didn't I see that in a movie, once? Some reclusive "mad scientist" type had a life-sized pterodactyl-model, he was flying around his remote cabin. Can't recall the movie, but I'm pretty sure it was sci-fi.

Wargames.

re: #233 leap_frog

Nope I heart the USA, they do canyons and cliffs very well.
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Here's a couple of examples and the plane is built TOUGH!
They are designed to take the load, 10 times the required apparently.

Then I have no idea why they aren't being used. Are you sure they're not being used on any of the Cali fires? If not, I have no idea why not, except some bureaucratic bs red tape. :-(

re: #215 leap_frog

In reading your post made me smile, we just gave up the big city life to live very rural. Some sacrifices, but it's so peaceful, serene, clean and worth it. We see a Blue Heron most days since we've moved here four months ago, although I believe it's migrated now. Have a stream flanking the side of our property and she's a young one, hope she returns.
Last Monday night we were out driving just before sunset. saw literally thousands upon thousands of geese stretched across the sky heading south finally. The snow geese are next as they are still flocked in the cut farm fields.
This morning at sunrise, a male deer on our lot easy seen through the dining room windows, we're getting some nice pictures.

I envy you, and I intend to follow you to the rural hinterlands, in my case northern Michigan, as soon as I manage to put two kids through college and figure out how to subsist on what meager incomes my wife and I will have coming in. We've both lived in Detroit our whole lives, moved to the deep suburbs about 17 years ago when we had our first daughter. We both want to live further away from the city, and closer to nature, but right now reality intrudes. Someday.

re: #236 Rancher

Wargames.

Yes! It was young Matthew Broderick, with his cute little girlfriend, who met up with the scientist and his dino-plane. Then, they all saved the world, thankfully.

re: #237 I heart the USA

Yeah we think it's bureaucracy as well.
San Diego has two at this moment
Los Angles County has two. At this moment.
So perhaps someone does know, because we've certainly supported them down there before.
Kills us to see these folks suffer needlessly when it's so containable.

re: #238 garycooper

OH then you'll love it garycooper, we still have one in College, and just a bit early for the retirement plans, but decided to make this bold move anyway.
I won't be working for a while, no second car, but the other expenses not incurred are already showing us in the black.
We saw the housing markets going down and decided to jump before our house - in the burbs, lost value when we had originally planed to sell at retirement.
We got lucky, even with carrying two home for three months.
Had a back up plan, well two actually. Thankfully didn't need them. Phew!
Being fiscally responsible finally paid off.
Had we done this in 6 -7 years from now this property would likely be out of our range.
Our hope is that after retiring, hubby who works on these yellow birds can consult to companies that own them, as the retirement funds are not to be counted on now.

re: #229 Rancher

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re: #239 garycooper

Yes! It was young Matthew Broderick, with his cute little girlfriend, who met up with the scientist and his dino-plane. Then, they all saved the world, thankfully.

Had to talk the liberal bastard into helping.

re: #202 leap_frog

My understanding is that the Canadian planes ( God Bless) are flying, dropping & helping!

re: #244 Floral Giraffe

Really? Alright!
Lets hope they can make a difference.
Hope to see a picture of them sunrise getting to work.

ops, at sunrise.

re: #240 leap_frog

Yeah we think it's bureaucracy as well.
San Diego has two at this moment
Los Angles County has two. At this moment.
So perhaps someone does know, because we've certainly supported them down there before.
Kills us to see these folks suffer needlessly when it's so containable.

Wait. This is California. Maybe they're not being used because they're not solar-powered? :-/

(Wishing there was a way to do a half sarc tag.)

re: #241 leap_frog

Our retirement and college funds took major hits this year, and our home has lost about a third of its value, based on what we could have sold it for five years ago. Michigan has been in a recession for about that long, but it took the last couple of years of DEEP recession to put us behind the eight-ball. We're making out fine, compared to lots of people around here, and luckily we don't have to move like so many of our former and current neighbors have had to do. We're hoping for better times ahead, in the next ten years or so. In the meantime, we hunker down and keep our noses to the grindstone.

re: #243 Rancher

Yeah, he was a bitter old fool, wasn't he? Figured it was time for mankind to self-destruct, so why bother delaying the inevitable?

Jerk.

re: #249 garycooper

I was looking through the quotes but couldn't find the where one of the kids says "I don't want to die a virgin!". Rather than have the two kids run off into the bushes the old man relented.

A cold rainy day in the Midwest--a perfect day to read. I decided to re-read Atlas Shrugged.

What is man's fate? Hasn't it always been to hope, but never to achieve?

Sounds Obama-esque to me...

re: #251 stonewater

I will have to read that sometime I guess.

re: #248 garycooper

Same here on the funds for education and retirement, things are now not as secure as we'd like or thought it would be. Five years old car in excellent running order, hoping to get another five, instead of buying newer. Don't really need it until the cost of repairing exceeds the purchase of a newer one. We never bought brand new, never.

Even the kid has realized it, and is considering joining our military this summer as way of getting though her course in one shot.
Want's to be a chef.
We're delighted of course, especially that she came up with it on her own, and of course the is a family military history going back to WW ll on both sides for her.
Our ace in the hole is hubby's skill and endorsements for air worthiness on aircraft such as the 'super scoopers' ( we love that name BTW - distinctly an affectionate American handle).

re: #222 reine.de.tout

Kind of like the people who don't make mortgage payments for over a year, get mad at the bank and destroy the house on the way out.

Don't you know? There's a whole class of people out there who are perfect--nothing is ever their fault.