Overnight Open Thread
Let us not speak of them; but look, and pass on.
— Dante
Let us not speak of them; but look, and pass on.
— Dante
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:25:20pm |
I was looking for the white courtesy phone and ended up here...
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:25:37pm |
Abandon hope all ye who press [enter] here. :D
/punch line from a short story I read.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:25:41pm |
This deserves a look: Drunken Phillies fan hit with liquor bottle.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:27:28pm |
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:27:56pm |
re: #4 Wyatt Earp
This deserves a look: Drunken Phillies fan hit with liquor bottle.
I hope he didn't fall. Deserves what he got though.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:28:19pm |
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winston06 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:28:38pm |
I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal
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solomonpanting Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:30:19pm |
re: #11 winston06
I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual candal
Truth in advertising.
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Rose Parade Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:31:05pm |
800+ households lost their homes in Southern California today. I'm fortunate to not be one of them and not even close. But I feel just awful for these poor people. Word is that the fire that destroyed 500 mobile homes in the Sylmar area was arson. Someone set that fire. It didn't have to happen.
Not everyone in L.A. is a filthy rich celebrity with multiple homes. Oprah and Rob Lowe will be fine. A lot of other normal, non-celebrity people, not so much.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:31:37pm |
re: #10 Wyatt Earp
I'm ashamed to say I don't know how to do that.
Of, for crying out loud. You have your own blog and you don't know how to post a spinoff link?
Click the green line of text that says. "► show spinoff links (0)." I'm almost certain you can figure it out from there - it's three input fields and a drop-down menu.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:32:05pm |
re: #9 Steve
I hope he didn't fall. Deserves what he got though.
I guess the various speeds are supposed to distract us from the fact that you never actually see him fall?
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:33:06pm |
re: #16 Noam Sayin'
Of, for crying out loud. You have your own blog and you don't know how to post a spinoff link?
Click the green line of text that says. "► show spinoff links (0)." I'm almost certain you can figure it out from there - it's three input fields and a drop-down menu.
I know. I feel shame. Got it, though, thanks! I just never posted a spinoff link here at LGF.
Yeah, I am the world's worst detective.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:34:12pm |
re: #17 gmsc
I guess the various speeds are supposed to distract us from the fact that you never actually see him fall?
It also enhances the comedic effect. At least in my opinion, it does.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:34:36pm |
re: #3 BlueCanuck
Abandon hope all ye who press [enter] here. :D
/punch line from a short story I read.
By chance, was it a story called "Press Enter"?
I really enjoyed it.
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:34:48pm |
re: #17 gmsc
I understand people celebrating but for a while it has been getting out of hand. With all the property damage and what not.
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NY Nana Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:36:30pm |
re: #11 winston06
I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal
I watched it earlier, and had to change channels...afraid of having nightmares.
I hope that he will be the one who will stop his political partner, Shrillary, from holding any office in Hussein's 'government'. A lot of people have forgotten what a disgrace he was and still is.
Damn, they are the same ones who don't watch Foxnews.
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:36:32pm |
re: #3 BlueCanuck
Abandon hope all ye who press [enter] here. :D
/punch line from a short story I read.
Through me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:
To rear me was the task of power divine,
Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
All hope abandon ye who enter here.
Such characters in colour dim I mark'd
Over a portal's lofty arch inscrib'd:
Whereat I thus: Master, these words import.
From Dante's Divine Comedy
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:36:53pm |
re: #22 Dianna
No it wasn't Harlan Ellison(?). It was a collection of "Deals with the Devil" stories. Some fantasy, some involving computers. "Press Enter" was just plain creepy. Good story though.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:37:23pm |
OT:
In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?
I would be happy to include a link to the 57-line poem, or just quote the significant lines.
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:37:30pm |
re: #11 winston06
I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal
That whole thing is completely overblown.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:37:34pm |
re: #23 Steve
I understand people celebrating but for a while it has been getting out of hand. With all the property damage and what not.
We had people looting department stores, setting fires, and virtually destroying a fire engine on its way to a call. I was never so ashamed of my city.
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:38:50pm |
I am watching Cavuto and there are talking about Freddie May and Fanny Mac helping people who have missed 3 or more payments.
Question from Cuvoto: What will stop people from saying/doing, "I will miss 3 payments and let them help me." This even when these people can make their payments?
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:06pm |
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:42pm |
re: #20 Last Mohican
Yeah, me and a buddy at work were just talking about that tune the other day. I just happened to start mentioning it, and immediately chimed in with, "Ray Charles and Willie Nelson? I love that version!" He's kind of a sod-head, so I've discounted his opinion on music from time to time. But he's also the guy who turned me on to Marty Stuart's "The Pilgrim."
So now I've figured out he has some cool bones.
BTW, even if you don't like Country Music, but that album. It's one of the best ever recorded.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:54pm |
re: #26 BlueCanuck
No it wasn't Harlan Ellison(?). It was a collection of "Deals with the Devil" stories. Some fantasy, some involving computers. "Press Enter" was just plain creepy. Good story though.
The writer was the fellow who did some very interesting stories. John Varley? I won't swear to that, but I remember the story. You're right, very creepy.
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:55pm |
re: #29 Wyatt Earp
We had people looting department stores, setting fires, and virtually destroying a fire engine on its way to a call. I was never so ashamed of my city.
the fire engine hurts. My brother is a fireman.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:40:36pm |
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:40:59pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:41:14pm |
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:42:04pm |
re: #35 Steve
the fire engine hurts. My brother is a fireman.
We get really pissed when people assault firefighters or damage their equipment. Like watching a member of your family get hurt.
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:42:14pm |
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BigJohn Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:42:52pm |
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:43:26pm |
re: #14 Rose Parade
I hope they live by the Jewish Boy Scout's Motto:
"Be Insured"
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:44:00pm |
Typo, again
"...buy that album."
I mentioned earlier that I was a little punchy.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:44:23pm |
re: #11 winston06
I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal
What scandal? Did I miss something?
/
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:45:24pm |
re: #44 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
What scandal? Did I miss something?
/
Well, you see, there was this vast right-wing conspiracy...
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:46:22pm |
re: #34 Dianna
You are correct, it was John Varley that wrote that. I tended to notice that most of his stories feature computers run amok. Ever read "Steel Beach"?
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:46:58pm |
re: #40 Moe Katz
Is the Rossi better?
I'd have to read the whole of the Cantos to know. But Rossi's fairly standard, and has been for years. He did the penguin edition, so...
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:47:10pm |
re: #39 Wyatt Earp
funny story about my brother:
He and another fireman flew from Washington to Florida to pick up a new truck. Every thing went fine until they crossed into New Mexico from Texas and got pulled over by the N M state patrol and held at gun point on the freeway in 100+ temp.
Seem that somebody in Texas had stolen a firetruck and the guy that accompanied my brother had neglected to put the new plates on the rear of the truck. Everything worked out fine after about an hour or so.
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:47:16pm |
re: #46 pat
yeah, but The Godfather is on AMC right now...
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:14pm |
re: #47 BlueCanuck
You are correct, it was John Varley that wrote that. I tended to notice that most of his stories feature computers run amok. Ever read "Steel Beach"?
I think so - I've read a lot of Varley. But I won't swear to it.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:16pm |
re: #17 gmsc
I guess the various speeds are supposed to distract us from the fact that you never actually see him fall?
Plus there was still booze in the bottle. What kind of knucklehead would do that?
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:19pm |
re: #49 Steve
funny story about my brother:
He and another fireman flew from Washington to Florida to pick up a new truck. Every thing went fine until they crossed into New Mexico from Texas and got pulled over by the N M state patrol and held at gun point on the freeway in 100+ temp.
Seem that somebody in Texas had stolen a firetruck and the guy that accompanied my brother had neglected to put the new plates on the rear of the truck. Everything worked out fine after about an hour or so.
Well, at least they could hose the seat down afterward. Heh, heh.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:43pm |
Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.
His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:49:27pm |
So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.
Sigh.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:49:54pm |
re: #56 Dianna
So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.
Sigh.
Wasn't he in Star Trek II?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:50:39pm |
re: #31 Steve
I am watching Cavuto and there are talking about Freddie May and Fanny Mac helping people who have missed 3 or more payments.
Question from Cuvoto: What will stop people from saying/doing, "I will miss 3 payments and let them help me." This even when these people can make their payments?
That dang Cavuto, spouting common sense again.
/What a jerk.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:50:46pm |
re: #54 Noam Sayin'
Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.
His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.
Gillian Welch swears that, if you want a good into at the Grand Ole Opry, you must wear rhinestones.
I was in the audience at the Fillmore when she told us that.
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BigJohn Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:51:01pm |
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:51:11pm |
re: #53 Wyatt Earp
Yeah. It is funny now but being pulled out of your truck at gunpoint was not that fun then.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:51:39pm |
re: #46 pat
Sin City is really quite cute. The movie I mean.
Just watched that tonight on SciFi. I've come to love Frank Miller adaptations. The 300 was awesome.
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:52:07pm |
re: #56 Dianna
So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.
Sigh.
Isn't he a chef somewhere?
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stevieray Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:52:08pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:52:35pm |
re: #45 Moe Katz
Well, you see, there was this vast right-wing conspiracy...
Yeah, but I was sick that day.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:53:30pm |
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:53:39pm |
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:22pm |
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pat Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:27pm |
re: #64 Noam Sayin'
Just watched that tonight on SciFi. I've come to love Frank Miller adaptations. The 300 was awesome.
Ditto
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Syrah Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:30pm |
re: #27 Dianna
OT:
In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?
I would be happy to include a link to the 57-line poem, or just quote the significant lines.
Douglas Adams references that poem in The Holistic Detective.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:56:18pm |
re: #54 Noam Sayin'
Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.
His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.
She can't be as bad as Linda McCartney singing!
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:57:01pm |
re: #54 Noam Sayin'
Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.
His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.
A little tasteful mandolin solo would have been nice.
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:57:31pm |
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:57:43pm |
re: #68 Dianna
From Moliere:
Tartuffe or, The Imposter
Act 2
Dorine: "To tell the truth, lovers are all insane!"
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pat Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:58:04pm |
In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.
So twice five miles of fertile ground
With walls and towers were girdled round:
And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree;
And here were forests ancient as the hills,
Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.
But oh! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover!
A savage place! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon lover!
And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
A mighty fountain momently was forced:
Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail:
And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
It flung up momently the sacred river.
Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean:
And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
Ancestral voices prophesying war!
The shadow of the dome of pleasure
Floated midway on the waves;
Where was heard the mingled measure
From the fountain and the caves.
It was a miracle of rare device,
A sunny pleasure dome with caves of ice!
A damsel with a dulcimer
In a vision once I saw:
It was an Abyssinian maid,
And on her dulcimer she played,
Singing of Mount Abora.
Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.
-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:58:48pm |
re: #73 Syrah
I don't care. I was asking for other lizard's opinions about whether we are to assume that there is a woman, calling to her daemonic lover, or not.
From this part of the second stanza:
But oh ! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover !
A savage place ! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon-lover !
I never read that as requiring an actual woman. I'm rather pissed off at some academic who writes:
In the second stanza, the tenor of the poem shifts from the balance and tranquility in the first few lines to an uneasy suggestion of the preternatural. A woman calls to her daemonic lover and the Khan hearkens to “Ancestral voices prophesying war.”
The passages incorporating these statements are rather separate; one is a simile, the other is a statement in the poem.
I'm irate. But I could easily be wrong.
I'm soliciting other opinions.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:59:05pm |
re: #79 Wyatt Earp
I thought Helen Thomas was the original sock puppet.
Actually, she's the original support hose puppet.
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:59:10pm |
re: #56 Dianna
So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.
Sigh.
re: #27 Dianna
OT:
In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?
no, I don't think so. I think that line is part of the description of the "holy and enchanted savage place." Then again, I've never smoked opium so who knows for sure the true meaning
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Wyatt Earp Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:59:41pm |
re: #85 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Actually, she's the original support hose puppet.
Eww. Rough visual there.
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leftover54 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:01:05pm |
I don't know if this guy has been a topic here before or not. I did a "search" here and I didn't see his name in the returns. This has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard from the Left (I avoid KOS) and I CAN NOT believe the Libs talk about Rush. I had to click out of the video 15 seconds into it. My Lib friend sent me the link with the caption: "gotta love this guy".
I can only hope he was joking and just trying to get a rise out of me.
I'd hate to think he listens to this stuff on a regular basis. It is delusional and the lack of rational thought is scary. They could make any of us out to be demons worthy of the death penalty or incarceration. Again, there is no hint of rational thought here. Pure propaganda indoctrination you'd expect to hear in the old Soviet Union, the Chinese "...Cultural Revolution" or "Gang of Four". Here is the link - have some Pepto handy - you're gonna need it:
ps - I read a newspaper story today about a local child molester. It was sickening to read. Still, I felt more "disturbed" listening to this this than by reading the molester story.
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victor_yugo Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:01:24pm |
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:01:33pm |
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:02:03pm |
re: #60 Dianna
Gillian Welch swears that, if you want a good into at the Grand Ole Opry, you must wear rhinestones.
I was in the audience at the Fillmore when she told us that.
Fine for a lady.
I felt Mr. Stuart's pants were a bit tight, and perhaps a bit girly, for the Grand O'l Opry (in that video). Could use a haircut, too - for the Grand O'l Opry.
I say that as a man who's hair once reached his own buttocks, and wore pants far tighter than that, and I'm not nearly the musician as Marty Stuart.
Reminds me of a story from about eight or nine years ago. Steve Earle was touring with the Del McCoury Band. It happened one night that Mr. McCoury heard Earle utter a profanity back-stage at a gig and promptly kicked his sinnin' @$$ off the tour.
The thing is, Steve Earle brought an incredible amount of new faces to the tour that have never heard mountain music, and didn't understand that McCoury is a legend in his time.
Gotta respect a man with standards.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:02:32pm |
re: #86 JeremiahRight
To be absolutely fair, Coleridge was a laudanum addict, and did not smoke opium. Or at least, so I understand.
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victor_yugo Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:02:32pm |
Hey, Karridine!
How are things going there?
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capitalist piglet Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:03:08pm |
I keep trying to turn you guys on to Wing, but so far, no takers.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:03:49pm |
Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.
However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:03:56pm |
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Did they need 31 years of research to find this out? Good grief.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:04:01pm |
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:04:48pm |
re: #94 Noam Sayin'
I never heard that Del McCoury kicked Steve out, but, if he did, good for him!
Steve can't seem to get through a sentence without some sort of vulgarity. Pity. I love his songs.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:05:33pm |
re: #82 Moe Katz
Not this time of year, although I stake my Celtic pride on the fact that there's somethin' Bruin.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:05:56pm |
re: #100 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Linda McCartney was a photographer, and a pretty good one.
I am surprised she tried to sing.
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lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:06:04pm |
re: #91 leftover54
I don't know if this guy has been a topic here before or not. I did a "search" here and I didn't see his name in the returns. This has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard from the Left (I avoid KOS) and I CAN NOT believe the Libs talk about Rush. I had to click out of the video 15 seconds into it. My Lib friend sent me the link with the caption: "gotta love this guy".
I can only hope he was joking and just trying to get a rise out of me.
I'd hate to think he listens to this stuff on a regular basis. It is delusional and the lack of rational thought is scary. They could make any of us out to be demons worthy of the death penalty or incarceration. Again, there is no hint of rational thought here. Pure propaganda indoctrination you'd expect to hear in the old Soviet Union, the Chinese "...Cultural Revolution" or "Gang of Four". Here is the link - have some Pepto handy - you're gonna need it:ps - I read a newspaper story today about a local child molester. It was sickening to read. Still, I felt more "disturbed" listening to this this than by reading the molester story.
Oh my God. And the scary thing is, this is the kind of thing that would be required to be given airtime under the "Fairness Doctrine" - oh, someone is praising the fact that Bush has kept us safe for 7 years? Well, here's the counterpoint, you must hear both sides!
You're right, more disturbing than a lot of stuff, and I just wonder how many listen to this truly insane lunatic. Surely someone's going to raise hell and get him in trouble - I mean, what about the guy who thought he had a closed mike and said nasty things about Joe the Plumber? He got fired - this is a LITTLE worse, I think...
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calcajun Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:06:06pm |
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:06:44pm |
re: #98 Fenway_Nation
Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.
However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?
That is pretty good. The last thing I heard about Fomalhaut C inventing was the trash can. And the only reason they invented that was to have something to kick over;P
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Karridine Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:07:03pm |
re: #96 victor_yugo
Victor! Long thyme, no see!
Well, Sunday afternoon goes well in sunny, cloudy but warm suburban Bangkok, still reeling from the election in America! Wow! Kind of lateral slides here, as what people are SUPPOSED to think and what the ARE THINKING seem to be wildly different animals...
You?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:07:07pm |
re: #91 leftover54
I don't know if this guy has been a topic here before or not. I did a "search" here and I didn't see his name in the returns. This has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard from the Left (I avoid KOS) and I CAN NOT believe the Libs talk about Rush. I had to click out of the video 15 seconds into it. My Lib friend sent me the link with the caption: "gotta love this guy".
I can only hope he was joking and just trying to get a rise out of me.
I'd hate to think he listens to this stuff on a regular basis. It is delusional and the lack of rational thought is scary. They could make any of us out to be demons worthy of the death penalty or incarceration. Again, there is no hint of rational thought here. Pure propaganda indoctrination you'd expect to hear in the old Soviet Union, the Chinese "...Cultural Revolution" or "Gang of Four". Here is the link - have some Pepto handy - you're gonna need it:ps - I read a newspaper story today about a local child molester. It was sickening to read. Still, I felt more "disturbed" listening to this this than by reading the molester story.
Mike Malloy is a moronic lunatic who has been fired from every regular radio station he's been on. Every one.
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calcajun Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:07:32pm |
re: #92 victor_yugo
The "Power Puff Girls" imagery comes to mind.
Not complimentary.
Ah, Asia. The land rhythm forgot. --PJ O'Rourke.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:08:34pm |
re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?
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calcajun Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:09:03pm |
re: #85 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Actually, she's the original support hose puppet.
And "sensible shoes" puppet. She is the crone imperial.
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:09:18pm |
re: #102 Fenway_Nation
Not this time of year, although I stake my Celtic pride on the fact that there's somethin' Bruin.
I'd rather not be reminded of their last Habs game.
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:09:58pm |
re: #110 Fenway_Nation
Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?
Wasn't it a guy out of San Francisco? But I thought he was a former priest, not an attorney?
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stevieray Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:10:12pm |
re: #110 Fenway_Nation
Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?
Is that a trick question?
I would guess "all of them".
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:10:30pm |
re: #110 Fenway_Nation
Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?
Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:11:11pm |
re: #115 shanec99
Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?
Yes. And plotting with an undercover agent that he thought was a 13 year old.
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:11:37pm |
re: #113 I heart the USA
Wasn't it a guy out of San Francisco? But I thought he was a former priest, not an attorney?
thats right, Bernie Ward, ex-priest, current inmate
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:22pm |
re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Mike Malloy is a moronic lunatic who has been fired from every regular radio station he's been on. Every one.
That makes me feel slightly better, I really know very little - but I didn't realize until after I commented that this clip is 2 years old. Is he still drawing a paycheck somewhere? I've heard of him, but happily, don't know much about him (but the other clips on this YouTube page are pretty disturbing, too). And they say we need a balance for right wing radio - yeah, Hannity is so awful and vicious, with his Pledge of Allegiance and support of our troops, DAMN his vitriol.
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:34pm |
re: #116 rawmuse
Good grief.
How do they get to such positions of prominence without a complete vetting.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:46pm |
re: #113 I heart the USA
Wasn't it a guy out of San Francisco? But I thought he was a former priest, not an attorney?
Ah, I'd have to google, and my unfortunate skills would probably prove inadequate, but I believe it was an ACLU attorney, in Virginia.
For once, both San Francisco and the Catholic Church were completely innocent. Hard though you may find that to believe!
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:48pm |
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Syrah Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:57pm |
re: #84 Dianna
I don't care. I was asking for other lizard's opinions about whether we are to assume that there is a woman, calling to her daemonic lover, or not.
From this part of the second stanza:
The passages incorporating these statements are rather separate; one is a simile, the other is a statement in the poem.
I'm irate. But I could easily be wrong.
I'm soliciting other opinions.
I meant no offense.
To answer directly. No. I don't think we are supposed to think that we are "to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover."
"e'er" is the key to that.
This is a line to ilustrate the primordial, dark and wild place, completely unrestrained by reason and wholly given over to the passions that is the chasm that is the well spring of that river.
Nothing more.
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:12pm |
re: #117 stevieray
Bernie Ward.
Ah, that's right. I don't remember what happened with his trial, but I am glad no one has to listen to him anymore!
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BigJohn Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:34pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:44pm |
re: #110 Fenway_Nation
Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?
Bernie Ward was, but I don't know that he's a lawyer.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:47pm |
re: #115 shanec99
That was the story. We'll have to wait for the trial to determine the truth.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:07pm |
re: #81 pat
"To seek the sacred river Alph
To walk the caves of ice
To break my fast on honey dew
And drink the milk of Paradise..."I had heard the whispered tales
Of immortality
The deepest mystery
From an ancient book. I took a clue
I scaled the frozen mountain tops
Of eastern lands unknown
Time and Man alone
Searching for the lost --- XanaduXanadu --- To stand within The Pleasure Dome
Decreed by Kubla Khan
To taste anew the fruits of life
The last immortal man
To find the sacred river Alph
To walk the caves of ice
Oh, I will dine on honey dew
And drink the milk of ParadiseA thousand years have come and gone
But time has passed me by
Stars stopped in the sky
Frozen in an everlasting view
Waiting for the world to end
Weary of the night
Praying for the light
Prison of the lost --- XanaduXanadu --- Held within The Pleasure Dome
Decreed by Kubla Khan
To taste my bitter triumph
As a mad immortal man
Nevermore shall I return
Escape these caves of ice
For I have dined on honey dew
And drunk the milk of Paradise
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:09pm |
re: #119 JeremiahRight
thats right, Bernie Ward, ex-priest, current inmate
Well that answers that question!
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Meremortal Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:27pm |
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:34pm |
re: #119 JeremiahRight
Are you sure that's the same case?
Or have there been so many that I've lost track?!
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:15:28pm |
Ward, a former Roman Catholic priest whose KGO broadcasts included the Sunday morning "God Talk" program, "had an opportunity to think long, hard and deeply about the problems of child abuse" in the Catholic Church. Why, the judge asked, "when he encountered his own predilection (for child pornography), didn't he seek treatment, seek help?"
Ward pleaded guilty in May to distributing child pornography and admitted sending between 15 and 150 pornographic images by e-mail, which he said were part of research for a book.
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quickredfox Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:15:47pm |
re: #27 Dianna
OT:
In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?
I would be happy to include a link to the 57-line poem, or just quote the significant lines.
I never took it that there was an actual woman, but rather, he is describing the wildness and craziness of the place.
But curse that person from Porlock (if he existed and wasn't just an excuse).
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:15:59pm |
Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:16:28pm |
re: #128 Dianna
That was the story. We'll have to wait for the trial to determine the truth.
Don't talk about it Lizards... or the MSM will claim that you are making a charge of guilt by association.
While all we are doing is talking about is a Liberal criminal.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:16:52pm |
re: #125 I heart the USA
Ah, that's right. I don't remember what happened with his trial, but I am glad no one has to listen to him anymore!
He was convicted.
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pbird Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:16:53pm |
re: #136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!
You have to wonder about the internal landscape that produces that stuff.
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:17:11pm |
re: #115 shanec99
Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?
Yep, it is true. She fired him on the spot.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:17:45pm |
Shit- I got lawyer and activist mixed up.
Bernie Ward sounds about right, tho'.
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leftover54 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:19pm |
re: #50 JeremiahRight
Yes.They started with "I" at 9pm EST time here - II is almost over now - I have to go to work tomorrow ! I'm a GF addict.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:24pm |
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:36pm |
re: #140 Lorenska
Yep, it is true. She fired him on the spot.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Thank God... well the Liberals did something right for a change.
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:48pm |
Ward holds a master's degree in theology and spent two years in the priesthood before leaving to get married. He worked for three years as a legislative assistant for then-Rep. Barbara Boxer before joining KGO in San Francisco as a reporter in 1985. He became a talk-show host in 1992 and held forth on news and politics for three hours every weeknight, while discussing religious issues on Sunday mornings.
The station, which nicknamed him the "lion of the left" for his outspoken manner and liberal views, fired him in December after his federal grand jury indictment was unsealed.
Ward was investigated after a woman in Oakdale (Stanislaus County) contacted police in 2005 and said a former priest, later identified as Ward, had been having sex chats with her by e-mail and had sent her a photo showing child pornography.
Police got a search warrant for the online account and found about 100 images showing minors, some as young as 2 or 3, engaged in sexually explicit conduct, prosecutors said. They said Ward exchanged the pictures with a group of 10 people for about a year.
7 years in federal prison!
the whole story is here
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:19:27pm |
re: #125 I heart the USA
Ah, that's right. I don't remember what happened with his trial, but I am glad no one has to listen to him anymore!
He got 7 years...
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Steve Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:20:56pm |
Nite all. Sleeptime and recover from cold time. Ya all hve a nice day.
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quickredfox Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:21:02pm |
re: #143 Dianna
That was my opinion, too!
But then, I'm not an academic. I just read the poem.
As the saying goes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:21:09pm |
re: #135 quickredfox
Thank you.
I've never felt easy with the person from Porlock, either. Some critics have absolutely shredded the story. I don't care.
I just like the poem, and object to the academics being idiots.
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:21:46pm |
re: #145 JeremiahRight
Sounds like the "Lion of the Left" is gonna have a hard time being left alone by some angry inmates where ever he serves his time.
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:22:03pm |
re: #144 shanec99
Thank God... well the Liberals did something right for a change.
Exactly - I live out here where Boxer is one of "my" officials and I can't stand her politics, but sure can't blame her for this one, she pretty clearly knew nothing. I was really afraid I was going to hear some "well, let's wait till all the facts are in" crap, but they just kicked his sick ass out, good riddance.
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Meremortal Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:22:11pm |
re: #136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!
Uh..uh...ahh...I can't believe I clicked on that after Love Me Do, I'm losing my mind. I...I think I need to order CDs from Wing! for all my friends!
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:23:52pm |
re: #146 Lorenska
He got 7 years...
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:24:42pm |
re: #145 JeremiahRight
The station, which nicknamed him the "lion of the left"
Lion? Lions are strong, fast graceful animals. Ward is a fat slob. My guess is the only reason he lived in SF was because of the numerous all you can eat Chinese buffets.
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Syrah Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:24:53pm |
re: #149 Dianna
Thank you.
I've never felt easy with the person from Porlock, either. Some critics have absolutely shredded the story. I don't care.
I just like the poem, and object to the academics being idiots.
I think that some "academics" make much of nothing just to justify themselves for have made nothing of much.
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LeePro Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:25:12pm |
re: #115 shanec99
Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?
re: #116 rawmuse
Yes. And plotting with an undercover agent that he thought was a 13 year old.
Yup.
Thanks to Lizard, Flying Dutchman!
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quickredfox Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:25:19pm |
I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:26:56pm |
re: #145 JeremiahRight
Ward holds a master's degree in theology and spent two years in the priesthood before leaving to get married. He worked for three years as a legislative assistant for then-Rep. Barbara Boxer before joining KGO in San Francisco as a reporter in 1985.
So if I'm keeping score correctly, Boxer has now had TWO employees busted for kiddie porn?!
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:26:57pm |
re: #152 Meremortal
Uh..uh...ahh...I can't believe I clicked on that after Love Me Do, I'm losing my mind. I...I think I need to order CDs from Wing! for all my friends!
I wouldn't do that if I were you. Unless you want your friends to detest you.
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:27:01pm |
re: #153 I heart the USA
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?
Oh my God, you read my mind...how much did we get to hear about Rush's stupid pain pill thing? As if that's even in the same PLANET of crimes, and it was reported on as if he had...well, as if he had molested a child. How do you spell liberal?
H-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e!
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:27:15pm |
re: #153 I heart the USA
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?
This seems to have happened last Thursday. I suspect the MSM is still focused on Pres-elect Obama. They will get around to wall to wall coverage of things like this after January.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:27:23pm |
re: #153 I heart the USA
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?
Let's not forget that there was also an ACLU guy caught for the same sort of thing. There were a number of links last summer.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:28:03pm |
re: #157 quickredfox
I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.
Interesting, especially considering that reading and dreaming are done on two opposite sides of the brain. Most people can't actually read in their dreams.
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shanec99 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:28:26pm |
re: #158 I heart the USA
So if I'm keeping score correctly, Boxer has now had TWO employees busted for kiddie porn?!
Are they both from San Fran?
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:29:07pm |
I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?
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Rancher Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:29:54pm |
re: #145 JeremiahRight
Why, the judge asked, "when he encountered his own predilection (for child pornography), didn't he seek treatment, seek help?"
Because he didn't want to. So why the hell did the Judge say this?
Ward's case is a "personal tragedy," and a prison term may not be the best way to help him or the children exploited by pornography, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker said as he imposed the sentence in a San Francisco courtroom.
Typical, we need to help this perp? No, we need to protect the public and that is accomplished by putting him away forever. There is no rehabilitation for pedophiles, even castration doesn't work.
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gmsc Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:30:08pm |
re: #165 rawmuse
I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?
I've tried it. They don't roll well at all.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:30:23pm |
re: #156 LeePro
Yup.
Thanks to Lizard, Flying Dutchman!
Why thanks to him? All he did was post a link here. Or am I missing something?
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:30:41pm |
re: #157 quickredfox
I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.
It's a pity Borges is dead; you and he could have had a number of interesting conversations. Jorge Luis Borges
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Mel Lono Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:31:22pm |
re: #165 rawmuse
I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?
Raffle off a Nat Nash and I'm in.
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victor_yugo Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:31:24pm |
re: #107 Karridine
Victor! Long thyme, no see!
Well, Sunday afternoon goes well in sunny, cloudy but warm suburban Bangkok, still reeling from the election in America! Wow! Kind of lateral slides here, as what people are SUPPOSED to think and what the ARE THINKING seem to be wildly different animals...
You?
Well, I'm recently unemployed, holding out for a job within my avocation. My landlord also has given me a job lead in his shop, covering for the guys who take vacation in the Thanksgiving/Christmas/deer season time frame.
Actually, thought, I was thinking specifically about the political climate there. Do you still see protests on your street corner?
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:31:36pm |
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:12pm |
re: #167 Noam Sayin'
Anywhere close to the Twin Cities?
No. but I get up there every now and then. my wife has people there in Wayzata,
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leftover54 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:17pm |
re: #104 lorenska
I guess this guy must be well known amongst the Libs - I never heard of him or this level of insanity on the radio before. If I ever hear a right winger going off on tangents like this I'll say the same about them. I listened, when I could, to Rush and Hannity during the election cycle. There were a few close calls but they always pointed out when they were speculating. Hannity mentioned the other night that he "heard Ayers babysat for the Obamas" but that he had no proof. that truly bothered me. I actually shouted out loud "Then why did you say it". I want "truth" not rumor and innuendo. The "truth" we know about is enough, no need to create more. I do partially blame the MSM news "black out" for possibly pushing Hannity to the edge. Hell, we still know very little about this guy so every little tid bit is seized on.
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:17pm |
re: #161 shanec99
This seems to have happened last Thursday. I suspect the MSM is still focused on Pres-elect Obama. They will get around to wall to wall coverage of things like this after January.
Actually, we're talking about Bernie Ward, who was sentenced on August 28th of this year. The Boxer aide thing was last Thursday...so many to keep track of, too few circles of hell for them all.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:23pm |
re: #160 Lorenska
How do you spell liberal?
Begins with an "S", ends with a "D", and has "TUPI" in between.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:42pm |
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:33:05pm |
re: #162 Dianna
Let's not forget that there was also an ACLU guy caught for the same sort of thing. There were a number of links last summer.
ACLU's Charles Rust-Tierney Busted For Hard-Core Kiddie Porn
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
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leftover54 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:34:32pm |
re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Thanks for that - probably won't last here either (A.A.) then. Pheew !
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Syrah Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:34:35pm |
re: #157 quickredfox
I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.
I know this dream, or something of its like.
In mine I will do a task, knowing that I am in a dream state, thinking it is real and actually being done, while knowing that it is not.
That is a very strange place between dreaming and waking.
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Dianna Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:34:50pm |
re: #179 JeremiahRight
ACLU's Charles Rust-Tierney Busted For Hard-Core Kiddie Porn
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
That's the fellow!
I couldn't remember specifics.
Anyway, it's bed time.
Good night!
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victor_yugo Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:35:11pm |
re: #157 quickredfox
I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.
I strongly suggest you keep a notepad and pencil by your bed. As soon as you realize you've had one of these dreams, get up and write down every detail you can remember.
I had "vivid dreams" for a six-month period a few years ago. I set up a private weblog for them, so that I could go back to them later. I learned an incredible amount from them, including a very important lesson: "Pay attention to the signs."
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:35:59pm |
re: #181 Syrah
I know this dream, or something of its like.
In mine I will do a task, knowing that I am in a dream state, thinking it is real and actually being done, while knowing that it is not.
That is a very strange place between dreaming and waking.
It is called lucid dreaming. A dream in which you are aware that you are dreaming.
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BakaRanger Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:36:10pm |
re: #136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!
just peed myself...
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:36:33pm |
re: #175 leftover54
I guess this guy must be well known amongst the Libs - I never heard of him or this level of insanity on the radio before. If I ever hear a right winger going off on tangents like this I'll say the same about them. I listened, when I could, to Rush and Hannity during the election cycle. There were a few close calls but they always pointed out when they were speculating. Hannity mentioned the other night that he "heard Ayers babysat for the Obamas" but that he had no proof. that truly bothered me. I actually shouted out loud "Then why did you say it". I want "truth" not rumor and innuendo. The "truth" we know about is enough, no need to create more. I do partially blame the MSM news "black out" for possibly pushing Hannity to the edge. Hell, we still know very little about this guy so every little tid bit is seized on.
Oh my God, we were listening and shouting together, I swear...I could not agree more, not only does speculation do NO ONE any good (like the crap about Obama being Muslim or being a non-citizen), but it gives the libs more ammo against the conservative commentators. All it would take would be one lib to grab that snippet from Hannity and, if it's not true, use it to impeach everything he's ever said, 99% of which is true and fair and responsible. They take stuff out of context easily enough, let's not give them something to aim at IN context! But at least he did quickly say he wasn't sure it was true...and during that same show, he was begging Ayers to come on and talk to him, to answer some real questions, I would truly buy tickets to that interview.
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Meremortal Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:36:39pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:37:44pm |
re: #180 leftover54
Thanks for that - probably won't last here either (A.A.) then. Pheew !
leftover54- I said regular radio station. Airhead America is not a regular radio station, unless you're a deranged simpleton.
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LeePro Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:39:55pm |
re: #169 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Why thanks to him? All he did was post a link here. Or am I missing something?
Yes, apparently you are missing something. Perhaps you are still too fresh-out-of-the shell, but around here, we are generally appreciative of each other... which includes kudos and hat tips for posting stories.
P.S.
I noticed that you've posted 42 stories yourself. How insignificant of you!
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:41:11pm |
Morning {LeePro}, hows the lurking going. ;)
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:41:11pm |
re: #164 shanec99
Are they both from San Fran?
I don't know, but aren't most of the freakshow stories out of San Francisco? And L.A. isn't far behind. I can't tell you how glad I was when we moved out of L.A. city limits, just so we could escape that septic tank.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:42:21pm |
re: #179 JeremiahRight
ACLU's Charles Rust-Tierney Busted For Hard-Core Kiddie Porn
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
"The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One if the girls is described in court documents as being "seen and heard crying", another is described as being "bound by rope."
What a sick creep. I'm actually shocked ABC News covered this rather than covering it up.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:43:31pm |
re: #189 LeePro
Yes, apparently you are missing something. Perhaps you are still too fresh-out-of-the shell, but around here, we are generally appreciative of each other... which includes kudos and hat tips for posting stories.
P.S.
I noticed that you've posted 42 stories yourself. How insignificant of you!
But I don't imply that I had anything to do with them.
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:44:20pm |
re: #191 I heart the USA
I don't know, but aren't most of the freakshow stories out of San Francisco? And L.A. isn't far behind. I can't tell you how glad I was when we moved out of L.A. city limits, just so we could escape that septic tank.
I'm about 80 miles outside of LA, up by Edwards AFB...still too close, but the military base proximity helps with the sanity quotient up here. And yes, I think SF has a lopsided number of the wingnuts, but this state as a whole is rather stuffed. It's a wonder the weight of all their self righteousness doesn't tip us right into the Pacific.
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LeePro Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:45:05pm |
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:45:06pm |
re: #192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
"The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One if the girls is described in court documents as being "seen and heard crying", another is described as being "bound by rope."
What a sick creep. I'm actually shocked ABC News covered this rather than covering it up.
yep. he also got 7 years in the federal slammer, must be the going rate
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:45:41pm |
re: #192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
"The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One if the girls is described in court documents as being "seen and heard crying", another is described as being "bound by rope."
What a sick creep. I'm actually shocked ABC News covered this rather than covering it up.
I wonder if ACLU is going to offer him their services as defense counsel.
Sick piece of shit.
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:46:18pm |
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leftover54 Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:47:41pm |
Gee, ain't this cute - just rec'd. from Lib friend. He is having his fun with me tonight. After reading Ozarks response to my post (Malloy) I realized said friend is having a ball twisting my gonads tonight. Here is another:
Iraq News
Chief: No evidence to justify Iraq war
Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:48 GMT
A report by Australia’s former military chief Admiral Chris Barrie pointed out that there was no evidence to justify going to war in Iraq in 2003. Barrie, who headed the Australian Defense Force at the time, made the comments during an interview for a new television series about former Prime Minister John Howard's decade in power.
“I have to say, even up until the day I retired, I never saw any evidence that said suddenly we had to go off and do a job in Iraq,” Barrie said, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) reported on its website. Read article in Arabic
Back
© 2007 Alsumaria Iraqi Satellite Network
I'm hoping this isn't a popularly held view in Iraq. Oh, this is the link to the short story:
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:48:13pm |
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Mel Lono Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:48:21pm |
re: #194 Lorenska
Anywhere near Acton? Have sister watching fires nearby. Me too, but I'm on the beach.
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:49:41pm |
re: #197 I heart the USA
I wonder if ACLU is going to offer him their services as defense counsel.
Sick piece of shit.
That is actually a really good question, I'm sure they did or would...I'm pretty sure they've defended NAMBLA on some bullshit "freedom of expression" grounds, so this would be like jaywalking to them. I think the ACLU was started with good intentions, many many moons ago, but now it truly is just a cesspool of liberal lawyers, defending anyone who hates this country and has no place in polite society.
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Karridine Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:49:55pm |
re: #172 victor_yugo
Nah, I'm no longer working near there... Don't have to see it every weekday... I'm quite sure the Pustulent Boil on the Butt of Democracy still holds their "Protest" in the government building, but other problems have eclipsed that AND our TV broke... We haven't heard of the Mob's dispersion from Government House... just that every appeasing move by the legitimate Thai government was met by "That's NOT enough!"
Its a weird atmosphere here, politically speaking, like "Everything's in Flux!"
Make sense?
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quickredfox Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:50:01pm |
re: #163 gmsc
Most people can't actually read in their dreams.
That is interesting, I didn't know that. This dream is based no doubt on actual instances where I *have* been in a library or used bookstore -- the books are always old ones -- and didn't have time to stay long and couldn't take the books with me (frustrating). I don't recall whether or not I've read in other dreams besides this one, but I've had this one several times in different versions.
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LeePro Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:50:47pm |
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:51:35pm |
re: #200 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I'm afraid to ask who that is.
She was this rich broad that wanted to be an opera singer but was just appallingly bad. It was never clear if it was a put-on or not, but people bought the recordings as humor. This is her famous recording of the Queen of the Night aria from Mozart's Magic Flute. The singer in the video isn't her.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:51:55pm |
re: #199 leftover54
"A report by Australia’s former military chief Admiral Chris Barrie"
When it comes to military leaders, I have more confidence in Cap'n Crunch than I do in Admiral Barrie.
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Lorenska Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:11pm |
re: #201 Mel Lono
Anywhere near Acton? Have sister watching fires nearby. Me too, but I'm on the beach.
Yep, just about 30 miles north of Acton, in Rosamond...Acton is about halfway between me and LA, actually, and it's beautiful, that's one of my favorite towns up here. Most of my surroundings are desert, kinda barren, but Acton is lovely. I'm JUST north enough to where the fires haven't affected me yet, but I assume I'll get some smoke tomorrow if the Sylmar one keeps building. Pretty scary stuff, it's like the whole state is on fire, I hope your sister stays safe. VERY jealous that you're at the beach, by the way! ;0 That's where I'd be if I could, I'll take waves over tumbleweeds anyday... I've got sand dune dreams on a joshua tree salary. :(
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:19pm |
'night lizards! I will continue with a bowling meet up theme later.
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victor_yugo Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:23pm |
re: #203 Karridine
every appeasing move by the legitimate Thai government was met by "That's NOT enough!"
Its a weird atmosphere here, politically speaking, like "Everything's in Flux!"
Make sense?
Yup. The fat lady isn't even warming up yet.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:45pm |
re: #206 Moe Katz
She was this rich broad that wanted to be an opera singer but was just appallingly bad. It was never clear if it was a put-on or not, but people bought the recordings as humor. This is her famous recording of the Queen of the Night aria from Mozart's Magic Flute. The singer in the video isn't her.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Before I click is she better than what's her wing?
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:54:37pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:54:52pm |
re: #209 rawmuse
'night lizards! I will continue with a bowling meet up theme later.
You have bowling alleys in SF? They seem so "flyover country".
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victor_yugo Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:55:31pm |
re: #206 Moe Katz
She was this rich broad that wanted to be an opera singer but was just appallingly bad. It was never clear if it was a put-on or not, but people bought the recordings as humor.
Kind of like Mrs. Miller?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:55:34pm |
re: #213 Rancher
Yes is playing with Huckabee's band. I like the show.
The band Yes- Chris Squire, etc.?
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Karridine Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:55:39pm |
re: #210 victor_yugo
How do we plan, on quicksand?
How do we MOVE, on quicksand?
How do we work, earn, SURVIVE... in quicksand?
Gaaak!
/bbiaw
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Moe Katz Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:56:58pm |
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I heart the USA Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:21pm |
re: #202 Lorenska
That is actually a really good question, I'm sure they did or would...I'm pretty sure they've defended NAMBLA on some bullshit "freedom of expression" grounds, so this would be like jaywalking to them. I think the ACLU was started with good intentions, many many moons ago, but now it truly is just a cesspool of liberal lawyers, defending anyone who hates this country and has no place in polite society.
I can't argue with your assessment!
O'Reilly covered the NAMBLA-ACLU story pretty thoroughly. Does ACLU even make a pretense anymore of caring about the civil rights of anyone who doesn't share their political ideology? Let's ask Joe the Plumber...
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LeePro Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:22pm |
re: #193 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
But I don't imply that I had anything to do with them.
'Scuse me?
Where did I imply that he had anything to do with anything other than posting a story?!?!?!
eg:
...around here, we are generally appreciative of each other... which includes kudos and hat tips for posting stories.
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Mel Lono Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:41pm |
re: #208 Lorenska
Know Rosamond. Used to drive thru to Tehachipi. I remember the bar/stop at the corner with the only stop sign for miles. I like the desert, but then I was born in AZ.
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rawmuse Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:50pm |
re: #214 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
You have bowling alleys in SF? They seem so "flyover country".
I know one with a sushi bar attached.
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JeremiahRight Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:59:07pm |
re: #204 quickredfox
That is interesting, I didn't know that. This dream is based no doubt on actual instances where I *have* been in a library or used bookstore -- the books are always old ones -- and didn't have time to stay long and couldn't take the books with me (frustrating). I don't recall whether or not I've read in other dreams besides this one, but I've had this one several times in different versions.
I heard the same thing a long time ago, that it's impossible to read text in a dream, but always wondered if its true, because I swear I have had dreams where I read something. Check out what i found, it looks like someone else out there has the same dreams as you:
Supposedly an impossible thing to do, since dreaming is done with the right brain, and reading is done with the left brain, and the one cannot create the functions of the other. This is almost accurate. During sleep, certain parts of the brain are inactive, including those responsible for making out forms of letters and words (parts whose failure causes disorders such as dyslexia or dysgraphia). However, this does not preclude reading, only making out the forms of letters and words.
There was a study on the relation of dreams to memory, in which amnesiacs who played heavy amounts of Tetris reported dreaming about the game. Any sufficiently intellectual addictive activity puts enough strain on the memory to affect a person's dreams. This is straightforward enough in the cases of games like Tetris or Devil Dice, but also applies to activities such as text-based MUDs or Everything.
In my days of psychological addiction to MUDS and to Everything, I have often dreamt of doing these things, as odd as that might sound to someone less neurotic. I sometimes dream about reading books, only to be disappointed when I wake up and realize that I can never figure out how the story ended, since it was being written by my subconscious and no hard copy exists. Once I dreamed that I nearly missed an important math test because I didn't have a ticket marked "5 pm" and everyone else did.
What is impossible in dreaming is the sense -- not the perception -- involved in reading. Therefore it is possible to read in a dream, but not to focus on actual letters and words.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:59:55pm |
re: #205 LeePro
Hi, {Blue}!
I'm fine. You?
Was feeling a little down and out earlier this week, but things are sort of looking up. Slowly filling the hole I was in due to my week off in October. I thought doing banking online was supposed to be faster. :)
/damn banks and their 70's mindset.
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Moe Katz Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:00:27am |
Laughing Song from Strauss's Die Fledermaus
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Rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:00:30am |
re: #216 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
The drummer, a bass player, and whoever sang "Owner of a Lonely Heart".
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victor_yugo Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:01:25am |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:01:59am |
re: #212 Moe Katz
WORSE
I don't know. I think she's better than Wing, Linda McCartney or Yoko Ono. But she did suck. All four of them sucked, sucked more, sucked way more, and stupid sucked. Rank'em the way you feel.
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funky chicken Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:02:00am |
re: #31 Steve
I am watching Cavuto and there are talking about Freddie May and Fanny Mac helping people who have missed 3 or more payments.
Question from Cuvoto: What will stop people from saying/doing, "I will miss 3 payments and let them help me." This even when these people can make their payments?
I just had this conversation today. A guy blew off his payments for a few months, and the mortgage company gave him a 4% 40 year fixed mortgate. Um, kinda sounds like a plan, doesn't it?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:04:43am |
re: #221 Mel Lono
I'm kinda partial to Tehachapi/Keene owing to the huge railway loop right there in the mountains.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:05:01am |
re: #226 Rancher
The drummer, a bass player, and whoever sang "Owner of a Lonely Heart".
That would be Chris Squire!
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funky chicken Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:05:06am |
Has Charles said if he's close to any of these fires? Or is he in San Diego County?
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Palandine Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:05:51am |
Gratuitous gun post.
Bought a maintenance manual for my new (to me) SKS this afternoon, then spent a fun and instructive evening taking it apart and cleaning it. Fair amount of dirt inside there, but nothing that didn't come off quickly, and the firing pin moves nice and easy. 1952 Russian Tula Armory, never been rebuilt. I love my new Commie gun, and am looking forward to shooting it.
/note to self--buy LOTS of cleaning patches
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Lorenska Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:06:27am |
re: #219 I heart the USA
I can't argue with your assessment!
O'Reilly covered the NAMBLA-ACLU story pretty thoroughly. Does ACLU even make a pretense anymore of caring about the civil rights of anyone who doesn't share their political ideology? Let's ask Joe the Plumber...
Oh, SUCH a good point...I didn't see anyone running to his defense when his entire life was ripped apart (illegally, I might add) for political gain. Can you imagine if the tables were turned? If he were a lib who had his license, tax, etc info pulled by a conservative? Jesus, the Supremes would already be hearing the case. If only he had a record of lewd acts with a child, I'll bet they'd have been right there for him...but being against socialism, well, THAT'S just too out there for us!
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Mel Lono Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:06:36am |
re: #230 Fenway_Nation
I'm kinda partial to Tehachapi/Keene owing to the huge railway loop right there in the mountains.
There's a restaurant in Keene with a layout. And an "apple' restaurant right on the line. Can't remember the name.
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quickredfox Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:06:44am |
re: #165 rawmuse
I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?
There is a bowling alley in my coastside town, just across the highway from one of the beaches. I always think of the oddness of a bowling alley with a lovely view.
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Lorenska Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:08:03am |
re: #221 Mel Lono
Know Rosamond. Used to drive thru to Tehachipi. I remember the bar/stop at the corner with the only stop sign for miles. I like the desert, but then I was born in AZ.
I guess I like it, too, but I was born and raised in Austin, TX...lots of hills and green and RAIN...that's what I miss most, the rain and the thunderstorms. I haven't heard thunder in about 10 years, and rain is cause for a national holiday in these parts. Now, Tehachapi, that is a lovely town - way higher elevation, so they get seasons and precipitation and stuff.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:08:20am |
re: #220 LeePro
Sorry. But the way you linked to it in your post seemed to me to imply that flying dutchman was the guy that broke the story, or at least was the reporter.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:09:21am |
re: #232 funky chicken
Has Charles said if he's close to any of these fires? Or is he in San Diego County?
He said earlier they're not around him, although he had to change the route for his bike ride.
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Moe Katz Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:09:41am |
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funky chicken Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:10:05am |
re: #98 Fenway_Nation
Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.
However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?
Could you come to Vegas and pick up a few neighbors of mine, and take them back to your home planet? They have an extremely obnoxious habit of getting drunk and then moving the party to their back patio after 11 PM. It's happened several times now, and I can't sleep because of it.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:12:26am |
re: #236 quickredfox
There is a bowling alley in my coastside town, just across the highway from one of the beaches. I always think of the oddness of a bowling alley with a lovely view.
Any sport you can play while drinking is okay me- Golfing, bowling, horseshoes, Jarts, Darts, Pool, shuffleboard, etc.
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Mel Lono Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:13:58am |
In Phoenix, we used to have the "water guy" come by twice a week to irrigate the lawn. Turned it into an 18" deep pool complete with dikes and debris. Loved it.
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Macker Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:14:14am |
re: #41 BigJohn
I'll probably check that out.
I won't. JJ Abrams is frakking with 40+ years of history. I hope this bombs like a son of a bitch!
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:14:35am |
re: #243 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Any sport you can play while drinking is okay me- Golfing, bowling, horseshoes, Jarts, Darts, Pool, shuffleboard, etc.
PIMF- okay with me.
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victor_yugo Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:16:03am |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:16:23am |
re: #241 funky chicken
Could you come to Vegas and pick up a few neighbors of mine, and take them back to your home planet? They have an extremely obnoxious habit of getting drunk and then moving the party to their back patio after 11 PM. It's happened several times now, and I can't sleep because of it.
Dial 911 and your name is anonymous.
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I heart the USA Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:16:43am |
re: #234 Lorenska
Oh, SUCH a good point...I didn't see anyone running to his defense when his entire life was ripped apart (illegally, I might add) for political gain. Can you imagine if the tables were turned? If he were a lib who had his license, tax, etc info pulled by a conservative? Jesus, the Supremes would already be hearing the case. If only he had a record of lewd acts with a child, I'll bet they'd have been right there for him...but being against socialism, well, THAT'S just too out there for us!
The whole thing made me sick.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:17:14am |
re: #241 funky chicken
Could you come to Vegas and pick up a few neighbors of mine, and take them back to your home planet? They have an extremely obnoxious habit of getting drunk and then moving the party to their back patio after 11 PM. It's happened several times now, and I can't sleep because of it.
Sounds like they're from Fomalhaut D (the 'D' is for 'douchebag')- you're on your own, buddy.
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quickredfox Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:21:26am |
re: #223 JeremiahRight
addictive activity
That's a pretty good description of my relationship to reading.
Now I'm curious to look into this more, because in my memory of these dreams, I definitely was reading letters. I would browse the titles on the backs of the books, and pick out one to read, and I remember reading text, as opposed to having a general memory of the act of reading. But I also know that memory can be a funny thing.
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Moe Katz Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:23:08am |
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Lorenska Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:23:37am |
re: #249 I heart the USA
The whole thing made me sick.
It made me sick and scared...to think that all these agencies can just start digging your life up because they disagree with your politics? Are you kidding me? I mean, I'm not naive, I know stuff like this goes on, of course, but it was so blatant, and everyone was just so matter of fact and unapologetic for it - almost like, "well, he had it coming! he put himself in the public eye, so he's fair game now." Really? Standing in your front yard, and a candidate comes to YOU, and you ask him a question, that's putting yourself out there? And even if he had been the initiator of that contact, so what? In NO WAY does that make it ok for government agencies to start stripping apart your private details - and oh yeah, publicizing them! - to try to discredit you. What really irritated me was the lack of response from anyone in power - authorities, the media - even the conservative media wasn't as appalled as I thought they should be, it's like they've even started to give up the fight, they knew nothing would be done about it.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:24:23am |
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leftover54 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:26:21am |
re: #186 Lorenska
I suspect he regretted this as quick as the words came out of his mouth - but still...gotta be careful. These guys do talk 3 plus hours a day and its testament to their integrity that only once in a great while do they slip up.
You can tell Hannity "knows" there is a ton more to the story but its been so well hidden, he is just ready on edge 24/7 although he seems to be working on keeping himself on an even keel. What else can he do unless some journalist actually does their job. I've decided myself to find other outlets for my frustration and ways to occupy my mind other than politics - I do not want to make myself sick over something I can do little about.However, it takes only one e-mail from a friend to get me going. I have to work on that ! Discipline !
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I heart the USA Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:27:10am |
re: #253 Lorenska
At least the one state employee was suspended (but with pay, of course). I can't believe there hasn't been a conservative law firm willing to file a civil suit on his behalf. I hope it happens, though!
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:27:56am |
re: #131 Meremortal
*
I decided to try her version of Love Me do and I've been in hysterics and unable to type for about 5 minutes.*whew*
Yeah, the fact that they're all (or mostly all - I haven't looked around for any original material) cover tunes just makes it that much more fun.
Love me some Wing. : )
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:28:13am |
re: #252 Moe Katz
I'm watching it. I'd heard of her as a child but this is the first I've actually seen.
She looks like Madeline Not-Too-Bright.
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leftover54 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:28:57am |
re: #207 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
LOL !Do tell ! I need something to fire back - I've never heard of the guy !
Whatever happened to good ol Cap'n Crunch ? I used to like that guy !
We ARE showing our age !
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leftover54 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:29:43am |
Man, this is bad - 3:30am and I have to go to work today ! Nite all !
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:30:00am |
Since Opera was being discussed, I have to say that I'll never be able to hear Sous le dôme épais without thinking of a dapper Christoper Walken shooting Dennis Hopper in the face three times and spitting on the corpse.
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itellu3times Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:30:02am |
re: #84 Dianna
Well maybe the reviewer is beng as hyperbolic as the text, suggesting that the simile is real.
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LeePro Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:32:34am |
re: #224 BlueCanuck
Was feeling a little down and out earlier this week, but things are sort of looking up. Slowly filling the hole I was in due to my week off in October. I thought doing banking online was supposed to be faster. :)
/damn banks and their 70's mindset.
Talk about depressing...
Just concluded 8th grade class reunion (Class of 1956). Everybody got old!
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:33:57am |
re: #225 Moe Katz
Laughing Song from Strauss's Die Fledermaus
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
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Lorenska Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:34:25am |
re: #255 leftover54
I suspect he regretted this as quick as the words came out of his mouth - but still...gotta be careful. These guys do talk 3 plus hours a day and its testament to their integrity that only once in a great while do they slip up.
You can tell Hannity "knows" there is a ton more to the story but its been so well hidden, he is just ready on edge 24/7 although he seems to be working on keeping himself on an even keel. What else can he do unless some journalist actually does their job. I've decided myself to find other outlets for my frustration and ways to occupy my mind other than politics - I do not want to make myself sick over something I can do little about.However, it takes only one e-mail from a friend to get me going. I have to work on that ! Discipline !
You're so right - I just imagine if I had a microphone, no WAY would I be able to restrain myself the way these guys do. And it sends me into fits n tizzies when I hear someone accusing THEM of being biased or hateful or whatever adjective they're using today... what they say IS negative and hateful, of course. Because it's the TRUTH, and the truth about the left is negative, there's no way around it. That's what I always said when people said McCain was "going negative" with his campaign - well, when there is nothing nice to say about your opponent, but you're required to say SOMETHING, well, I guess it's going to be negative.
It is incredibly frustrating, and knowing that if it weren't for the internet, I would know about 2% of what I know is even more frightening, cause that means there are a lot of folks out there who are just truly in the dark - cause they only know what the MSM wants them to know, and they take it as gospel. And it's only going to get worse with the Dems in power - Fairness Doctrine, my ass. "Left Wing, 'Listen To Us, Dammit, You HAVE To Now!' Doctrine" is more like it.
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leftover54 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:34:26am |
Dang, I meant to ask this waaay earlier. I finally took the plunge and went with Firefox. Anyone know how I can get a "button" up on the (a) tool bar to open "MS Outlook Express" ? I see no option for it. Also, when I click on a link
in an e-mail through Outlook Ex. it opens it in my old browser (Avent). I've looked all over for a way to make Firefox my default and must be looking in
all the wrong places ! I won't be back here until tomorrow night but if anyone can give me a hand with these two issues, i'd greatly appreciate it ! Now "Nite !
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JeremiahRight Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:36:01am |
my parting shot for the night:
Super Obama World! the video game
oh brother
"As Obama, you'll encounter Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue (where Sarah Palin spent thousands of dollars on outfits), dodge lobbyists wielding bags of money, and jump over pigs wearing lipstick. You can advance to the "Alaska" level and the "Republican National Convention" level"
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Lorenska Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:36:20am |
re: #256 I heart the USA
At least the one state employee was suspended (but with pay, of course). I can't believe there hasn't been a conservative law firm willing to file a civil suit on his behalf. I hope it happens, though!
I know, there just has to be a conservative law firm somewhere, right? In Ohio? Think of the publicity...maybe we should put a bug in the ear of someone who has some connections up there. Wasn't Joe Scarborough a congressman from Ohio? And he's a lawyer, he'd do it, I'd bet! Too bad they'd probably tie him up and throw him in the closet at MSNBC before he could make a call. :)
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:37:54am |
re: #268 Lorenska
I know, there just has to be a conservative law firm somewhere, right? In Ohio? Think of the publicity...maybe we should put a bug in the ear of someone who has some connections up there. Wasn't Joe Scarborough a congressman from Ohio? And he's a lawyer, he'd do it, I'd bet! Too bad they'd probably tie him up and throw him in the closet at MSNBC before he could make a call. :)
I thought Joe Scarborough was from Florida. You might be thinking of that other guy - John Kasich? (Without looking it up...I'm not even sure how you spell his name, and I don't know that his background is in law.)
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Moe Katz Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:37:59am |
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quickredfox Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:39:52am |
re: #267 JeremiahRight
dodge lobbyists wielding bags of money
They're going to have to change this game already, now that lobbyists are openly okay with BO and his crew.
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I heart the USA Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:40:00am |
re: #268 Lorenska
I know, there just has to be a conservative law firm somewhere, right? In Ohio? Think of the publicity...maybe we should put a bug in the ear of someone who has some connections up there. Wasn't Joe Scarborough a congressman from Ohio? And he's a lawyer, he'd do it, I'd bet! Too bad they'd probably tie him up and throw him in the closet at MSNBC before he could make a call. :)
Scarborough is from FL (John Kasich is from Ohio). I didn't know Scarborough was/is an attorney. That would get press coverage! Or why not Laura Ingraham or Larry Elder? Maybe the ACLJ?
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freetoken Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:41:02am |
re: #266 leftover54
I'm trying out Firefox for a while... it is much more memory friendly than Safari (which leaks likes a sieve), but the speed can be slow, especially if you have many add-ons.
Speaking of which, go to the Mozilla site and look for add-ons about buttons. There are many add-ons that try to customize the Firefox interface.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:41:02am |
re: #270 Moe Katz
Beautiful animation!
It's from Fantasia 2000. If you've never seen the movie, I highly recommend it!
Each segment is a different classical piece, and done in a different style. My favorite is the Rhapsody in Blue segment, with Al Hirschfeld doing the animation!
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Lorenska Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:41:20am |
re: #269 capitalist piglet
I thought Joe Scarborough was from Florida. You might be thinking of that other guy - John Kasich? (Without looking it up...I'm not even sure how you spell his name, and I don't know that his background is in law.)
Yep, you're absolutely right, and I think you even spelled it right - my bad. I hate being wrong amongst lizaroids! Thanks for correcting me so gently. :) (On the bright side, MSNBC couldn't stop Kasich, could they?)
On that note, I've just proven I'm too tired to have a rational conversation with such an intelligent bunch, so I'm off to count the minutes before my 4 year old deems it morning. Nite all, stay safe and sweet dreams (and those of you who are out here in the Land of Flames with me, best of luck and prayers for the firefighters).
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LeePro Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:44:10am |
re: #238 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Sorry. But the way you linked to it in your post seemed to me to imply that flying dutchman was the guy that broke the story, or at least was the reporter.
Links in my post:
Yup. ← direct link to newsbuster story
Thanks to Lizard, Flying Dutchman! ← direct link to Dutchman's post.
You see, I didn't imply anything. You, on the other hand, inferred. See the difference?
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Lorenska Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:44:41am |
re: #272 I heart the USA
Scarborough is from FL (John Kasich is from Ohio). I didn't know Scarborough was/is an attorney. That would get press coverage! Or why not Laura Ingraham or Larry Elder? Maybe the ACLJ?
Oh, Larry Elder, good one! I already got corrected on my Scarborough mistake, dumb me, but Elder would be perfect, I would have voted him into office in a heartbeat, I listen to him whenever I can. And he is a lawyer, he'd be great. He actually answered an email I sent him once, so we're VERY close, you know - I'm sure I can get him to do it, I'll just drop him a line. ;)
It's been fun chatting with you, I love getting on here right before bed, it helps me remember I'm not the lone, sane conservative out here in la-la land, and gives me somewhat sweeter dreams. Which I'm off to have now...nite all, take care. :)
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capitalist piglet Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:44:45am |
re: #275 Lorenska
No worries, Lorenska - I'm often wrong, and boldly so. Good night, and you stay safe!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:45:29am |
re: #263 LeePro
Isn't it. Met with an old chum from my public school days and found out he's a grandfather. Very possible in the town we grew up in. Might be meeting up with my grad class of 82 for grade eight next year. Our old public school is being closed after over 100 years of use.
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I heart the USA Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:45:54am |
re: #275 Lorenska
Nite all, stay safe and sweet dreams (and those of you who are out here in the Land of Flames with me, best of luck and prayers for the firefighters).
I'm out, too. Making way for the late, late (or early, early) shift!
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rboa Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:46:36am |
My son just got back from seeing the new bond film. He was fairly disappointed with all the America bashing.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:47:07am |
re: #259 leftover54
LOL !Do tell ! I need something to fire back - I've never heard of the guy !
Whatever happened to good ol Cap'n Crunch ? I used to like that guy !
We ARE showing our age !
Cap'n Crunch is still around.
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LeePro Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:53:14am |
re: #280 BlueCanuck
Wow.
We took a bazzillion photos. Will post at Flickr or PhotoBucket as soon as I dump from camera & phone — sometime next week, prolly.
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LeePro Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:59:40am |
Okay, scaly buds.
Oldness makes one crave bedtime more and more...
G'nite, {good lizards} ...[bad ones, too, I suppose]
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:11:17am |
I think a lot of lizards are recuperating after all the post election madness.
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Egfrow Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:12:42am |
Reconciliation and Independence:
A question and concerns of T.J. 1775:
DEAR SIR, -- I received your message by Mr. Braxton & immediately gave him an order on the Treasurer for the money which the Treasurer assured me should be answered on his return. I now send the bearer for the violin & such music appurtaining to her as may be of no use to the young ladies. I beleive you had no case to her. If so, be so good as to direct Watt Lenox to get from Prentis's some bays or other coarse woollen to wrap her in & then to pack her securely in a wooden box. I am sorry the situation of our country should render it not eligible to you to remain longer in it. I hope the returning wisdom of Great Britain will, ere long, put an end to this unnatural contest. There may be people to whose tempers and dispositions contention is pleasing, and who, therefore, wish a continuance of confusion, but to me it is of all states but one, the most horrid. My first wish is a restoration of our just rights; my second, a return of the happy period, when, consistently with duty, I may withdraw myself totally from the public stage, and pass the rest of my days in domestic ease and tranquillity, banishing every desire of ever hearing what passes in the world. Perhaps (for the latter adds considerably to the warmth of the former wish), looking with fondness towards a reconciliation with Great Britain, I cannot help hoping you may be able to contribute towards expediting this good work. I think it must be evident to yourself, that the Ministry have been deceived by their officers on this side of the water, who (for what purpose I cannot tell) have constantly represented the American opposition as that of a small faction, in which the body of the people took little part. This, you can inform them, of your own knowledge, is untrue. They have taken it into their heads, too, that we are cowards, and shall surrender at discretion to an armed force. The past and future operations of the war must confirm or undeceive them on that head. I wish they were thoroughly and minutely acquainted with every circumstance relative to America, as it exists in truth. I am persuaded, this would go far towards disposing them to reconciliation. Even those in Parliament who are called friends to America, seem to know nothing of our real determinations. I observe, they pronounced in the last Parliament, that the Congress of 1774 did not mean to insist rigorously on the terms they held out, but kept something in reserve, to give up; and, in fact, that they would give up everything but the article of taxation. Now, the truth is far from this, as I can affirm, and put my honor to the assertion. Their continuance in this error may, perhaps, produce very ill consequences. The Congress stated the lowest terms they thought possible to be accepted, in order to convince the world they were not unreasonable. They gave up the monopoly and regulation of trade, and all acts of Parliament prior to 1764, leaving to British generosity to render these, at some future time, as easy to America as the interest of Britain would admit. But this was before blood was spilt.
MORE:
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Egfrow Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:14:11am |
We need to watch and defend our speakers. They are all targets now.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:18:52am |
Once again I present:
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:19:33am |
re: #291 Tigger2005
heh, I saw that earlier today. Very nice, especially the write up that came with it.
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little blessing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:24:33am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:26:32am |
Morning little blessing. Looks like it's creeping up on fruit cup time. Me? I could be better, but at least I am not worst.
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DeathtotheSwiss Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:26:36am |
The Secret Service called me one time. I had reported a death threat against Vice President Cheney and they called me back in under half an hour. It was pretty cool.
I'm not looking forward to future phone calls. Pat Dollard, someone I had respect for, lost it a few days ago by putting a picture of Obama with a target on his head on his website.
*sigh*
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Salem Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:27:46am |
re: #242 Macker
C'est la merde!
Look, the "canon" was the invention of deluded Trekkie dweebs. The third episode has a roguish Spock in a yellow shirt. The Klingons grew bumps on their heads, for crying out loud! Loosen your sphincter. Or not. The movie is going to make a frikking mint in spite of the shriekingly annoying anal-obsessed Trekkies.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:30:57am |
re: #296 Salem
Look, the "canon" was the invention of deluded Trekkie dweebs.
Yes and no. Some of it came from the TOS script bible, most mentioned in the series itself. And yes some of us are/were anal obsessed. But when Braga got his mitts on the franchise, it went down the tubes. personally I think DS9 should have been the last series for a long while.
/they killed the golden goose.
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Salem Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:31:43am |
No offense intended. But the fact that Trekkie purists are going to hate this film is a GOOD thing.
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The Other Les Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:32:16am |
re: #77 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
She can't be as bad as Linda McCartney singing!
So we're going to play that with the Yoko Ono CD's when we do interrogations at Gitmo?
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Salem Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:38:34am |
re: #297 BlueCanuck
Yes and no. Some of it came from the TOS script bible, most mentioned in the series itself. And yes some of us are/were anal obsessed. But when Braga got his mitts on the franchise, it went down the tubes. personally I think DS9 should have been the last series for a long while.
/they killed the golden goose.
I thought TNG had it's moments but I've only really been enthused with the original series because of the chemistry of the main characters. If this movie doesn't do that justice, I figure I can continue to indulge in my TOS DVDs until the pain subsides.
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stuiec Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:39:19am |
re: #282 rboa
My son just got back from seeing the new bond film. He was fairly disappointed with all the America bashing.
I predict that very soon, the moonbats will become incensed with all the foreign America-bashing that will still be going on -- or, in the case of Eastern Europe, intensifying (seeing as how we are going to make their lives a lot more precarious in the Obama Era). When it turns out that the rest of the world doesn't prostrate itself at the feet of Obama's America, the Lefties will be sooo pissed.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:39:25am |
re: #300 Salem
I'm voting with my wallet. :)
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The Other Les Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:42:19am |
re: #233 Palandine
Gratuitous gun post.
Bought a maintenance manual for my new (to me) SKS this afternoon, then spent a fun and instructive evening taking it apart and cleaning it. Fair amount of dirt inside there, but nothing that didn't come off quickly, and the firing pin moves nice and easy. 1952 Russian Tula Armory, never been rebuilt. I love my new Commie gun, and am looking forward to shooting it.
/note to self--buy LOTS of cleaning patches
Good for you!
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Salem Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:43:48am |
re: #302 BlueCanuck
I'm voting with my wallet. :)
That trailer is playing with the New Bond film. It's a pretty safe bet that its box-office will cover the budget, at worst.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:45:41am |
re: #301 stuiec
I predict that very soon, the moonbats will become incensed with all the foreign America-bashing that will still be going on -- or, in the case of Eastern Europe, intensifying (seeing as how we are going to make their lives a lot more precarious in the Obama Era). When it turns out that the rest of the world doesn't prostrate itself at the feet of Obama's America, the Lefties will be sooo pissed.
I noticed a little bit of it in the new Bond film but honestly, nothing too bad.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:47:01am |
Good morning mates, work woke me up early to deal with a minor network issue. Great, I am lying in dark and half asleep and the operators are unloading IP addresses on me. I tell them to call me back in five minutes and stagger into the computer room. They call back and it's no big deal. But I am awake and not sleepy. What's up?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:47:16am |
re: #304 Salem
Oh, yea. There will be the die hards that will go out to see it. I personally think it will be about as bad as ST:TMP.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:48:14am |
re: #306 LoFlyer
Definitely not the markets. ;) New Star Trek movie, yea or nay?
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:48:18am |
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:48:48am |
re: #305 TheMatrix31
I noticed a little bit of it in the new Bond film but honestly, nothing too bad.
I would be surprised if anything comes out of Hollywood that is not America bashing.
My heavens after Micheal Moore, Susan Serandon, Sally Fields, Clooney et al. what should a rational person expect?
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:50:52am |
re: #305 TheMatrix31
I noticed a little bit of it in the new Bond film but honestly, nothing too bad.
You might enjoy this one, starts out a little slow and gets interesting about half way through. Man conquers Space! I mean its 5 PM in the morning, what do you have to lose?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:51:50am |
re: #309 gmsc
Yes, that was silly. Still it's pretty cool.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:52:05am |
re: #308 BlueCanuck
Definitely not the markets. ;) New Star Trek movie, yea or nay?
Gave up on Star Trek about 10 years ago. I do enjoy Piccard vs. the Borg though!
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:53:16am |
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least Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:54:41am |
Four of us had to drive on PCH from Ventura to Santa Monica late this afternoon. The sun was low to the horizon and what with all the smoke from the brushfires -- it was spectacular! But what was equally amazing was the number of people along the road and on the beach with cameras. I predict a bumper cop of spectacular sunset photos.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:54:54am |
re: #314 shanec99
It was a good laugh.
LOL
Speaking of LOL, any one seen Little ol' lady this morning, mates?
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:56:13am |
re: #316 LoFlyer
Speaking of LOL, any one seen Little ol' lady this morning, mates?
She should be here in about 5 minutes!
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:57:50am |
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:58:01am |
re: #318 littleoldlady
Arggg!
Ma'am, did some on put a burr in your bloomers, or peppers in your panties?
No need for anger to greet us.
Good morning by the way.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:58:34am |
re: #318 littleoldlady
Oh come on, it's not that bad is it? Good morning oh wonderous one, she who bears the cup of fruit that lizardim grovels for.
/take it you didn't win the power ball?
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:00:02am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:01:39am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:02:08am |
Trying to prevent computer from crashing before I serves the fruitcup.
No, I didn't win the PowerBall. :-( :-( :-(
(I could have used the money.)
Understatement of the year
My mood...is the same, I guess. :-/
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:02:08am |
re: #323 littleoldlady
---> puts nuts next to the fruits.
After all we will be talking about California and the protests about prop 8.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:03:33am |
re: #325 littleoldlady
Trying to prevent computer from crashing before I serves the fruitcup.
No, I didn't win the PowerBall. :-( :-( :-(
(I could have used the money.)
Understatement of the year
My mood...is the same, I guess. :-/
The lotto is just a tax on people who are bad at math!
/waffles up!
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:03:47am |
Nuts? We need more nuts around here?
;-)
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:04:45am |
re: #329 littleoldlady
Nuts? We need more nuts around here?
;-)
That's part of my job requirements mate!
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:05:04am |
re: #328 LoFlyer
The lotto is just a tax on people who are bad at math!
/waffles up!
At least its a voluntary tax... if I dont want to pay it I dont have to. I wish all of them were like that.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:05:34am |
November 16th:
Happy 101st birthday to the state of Oklahoma!
Remember Lisa Bonet from the Cosby Show and A Different World? She's 41 today!
Richard Nixon authorized the Alaskan pipeline 35 years ago today (Now if we could just get the oil authorized).
94 years ago today, the United States Federal Reserve Bank officially opened for the first time!
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:11am |
re: #329 littleoldlady
Nuts? We need more nuts around here?
;-)
Are you asking about the protests regarding prop 8? Those nuts are going into church and screaming at worshippers.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:11am |
Every so often somebody wins the PowerBall...
/It's my turn, dammit!
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:58am |
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:58am |
re: #323 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Good morning!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:08:14am |
Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. Why is your computer on the edge of a crash?
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:09:27am |
Okay, okay... ;-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
Matrix! :-)
shanec99! :-)
gmsc! :-)
LoFlyer! Avast! :-)
Fenway! :-)
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:09:37am |
re: #331 shanec99
At least its a voluntary tax... if I dont want to pay it I dont have to. I wish all of them were like that.
I was wondering 10 years ago what would happen if we had voluntary control of where our tax money is spent? The liberals could throw their taxes into socialism and the conservatives would finance defense and law enforcement. I wonder how the allocation would work out nowadays with the socialist indoctrination espoused in recent public education
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:10:55am |
re: #341 littleoldlady
Sharmuta! :-)
Sharmuta deserves an extra fruitcup. I was mean to her the other night.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:10:55am |
re: #339 littleoldlady
Today I am about as ornery as a rattlesnake with bad constipation. So if you mess with me I will be on your butt like a Kimodo Dragon or Gila monster!
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:08am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:21am |
Morning Sharmuta, on a regular shift tonight?
/real quiet and peaceful lately. Very few trolls.
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Palandine Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:33am |
re: #309 gmsc
...
Damn Yankees! Is there no evil to which they will not stoop in the War of Northern Aggression Recent Unpleasantness?
///
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:49am |
re: #339 littleoldlady
Okay, okay... ;-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
Matrix! :-)
shanec99! :-)
gmsc! :-)
LoFlyer! Avast! :-)
Fenway! :-)
Haar! Avast nothing mate! We are full speed ahead!
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:51am |
re: #342 gmsc
Sharmuta deserves an extra fruitcup. I was mean to her the other night.
grrr! *smack!*
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:12:43am |
re: #343 shanec99
Today I am about as ornery as a rattlesnake with bad constipation. So if you mess with me I will be on your butt like a Kimodo Dragon or Gila monster!
Oh. Goodie.
;-)
Palandine! :-)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:03am |
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:35am |
re: #344 littleoldlady
My computer self-schedules a couple of crashes a day.
/cosmic crashes
Like what kind of computer do you own, mate? What is the operating system?
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little blessing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:39am |
Wow. I think I'm going to sit in the corner and eat the fruitcup whilst finishing to type up these absurd Hand-overs.
/don't want to get hurt
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:52am |
re: #349 Sharmuta
Shar... a pox on you... you say good morning to the Lil ol Lady and you ignore the one who loves you.
I hope you get fat and ugly with a big ole butt!
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:14:51am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:15am |
I seemed to have won this thread's powerball equivalent.
Not sure if that would translate too well into another casino visit, acting on that hot stock tip or purchase of presious metals.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:22am |
re: #346 Palandine
...
Damn Yankees! Is there no evil to which they will not stoop in the
War of Northern AggressionRecent Unpleasantness?///
Paladine is channeling Senator Claghorn, apparently.
/You know why all the US rivers run south?
/They can't stand it in the north!
//Why do we have a North Carolina? Why not just call it Upper South Carolina? For that matter, why do we have a South Dakota up north?
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Palandine Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:42am |
re: #335 littleoldlady
Yeah, they held up traffic in the middle of Philadelphia yesterday.
/oh joy
They had a protest in St. Louis today. Missouri has had a gay marriage ban for 4 years.
Their contempt for the will of the people is appalling. Is there any doubt that there would have been riots ha Obama lost?
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:58am |
re: #354 shanec99
Sorry- I was distracted by what my grandmother called "real entertainment".
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:16:06am |
re: #354 shanec99
Shar... a pox on you... you say good morning to the Lil ol Lady and you ignore the one who loves you.
I hope you get fat and ugly with a big ole butt!
Haar, can you pass the excess butt over to me? 'me second love declared me TNA, Terminal No Ass
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:16:11am |
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:16:20am |
re: #355 TheMatrix31
I wish I was singing in the rain. I'm coughing in the smoke.
Serves you right for living in the land of fruits and nuts. I guess roasted peanuts are not that bad.
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Palandine Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:17:23am |
littleoldlady!
Waiting for the Ambien to kick in. Won't be here long. Good to see you.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:18:05am |
re: #359 Sharmuta
Hrumph... apology not accepted. (Pouting)
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:19:26am |
re: #361 gmsc
Where I come from we don't discuss Smurf choking.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:20:48am |
re: #366 Sharmuta
Where I come from we don't discuss Smurf choking.
I won't bring it up again.
Forgive me?
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:22:11am |
re: #360 LoFlyer
Haar, can you pass the excess butt over to me? 'me second love declared me TNA, Terminal No Ass
Better than being tagged on the highway with a sign that says wide load.
Had to sit on a flight from Addis Ababa to Nairobi next to a fat assed English woman... good lord... she was about 5'1" and must have weighed about 300 pounds.
Talk about body odor... if she were going on Safari... the scavengers would have been forced to come over and take notice.
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gmsc Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:26:14am |
I'll tell you what, Sharmuta. I'll give you the night to think about it.
Good night all!
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:26:19am |
OK I have said all the mean things I will be saying for the day. Good, that was cathartic.
The bad Shane has been banished for the day. Hey, can someone find a halo?
Good morning all.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:27:04am |
re: #371 shanec99
I would give you mine, but it's a little tarnished.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:28:00am |
Wow, that one was more painful than usual... :-(
I'm back!
/did you miss me?
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:28:23am |
re: #363 Sharmuta
It's been so long since I've watched that clip.
Hope you stay safe, Kiddo!
Thanks...the fires are nowhere near my area (closest one is about 15-20 miles north of my neighborhood. However, the wind is blowing all the smoke and ash all over the city and suburbs. It's disgusting outside, and freakin' hot too.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:29:34am |
re: #373 littleoldlady
Wow, that one was more painful than usual... :-(
I'm back!
/did you miss me?
I was gonna say something mean...
but I am trying to beat back bad ole Shane.
Someone find me a shiny halo please... or I wont be able to beat back the devil in me.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:31:21am |
re: #373 littleoldlady
Of course we did! Just like we missed good shane, and red's hijinxed fruitcups.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:32:35am |
re: #373 littleoldlady
At the speed the thread has been moving tonight it's easy to miss some people. But we will never miss your wit. ;)
/Me? Out and about cruising the web looking for gems, but only finding other items.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:33:13am |
re: #369 shanec99
Better than being tagged on the highway with a sign that says wide load.
Had to sit on a flight from Addis Ababa to Nairobi next to a fat assed English woman... good lord... she was about 5'1" and must have weighed about 300 pounds.
Talk about body odor... if she were going on Safari... the scavengers would have been forced to come over and take notice.
You want believe this one mate, but I have a story just as bad! 'Me ex-wife and me had a wonderful honeymoon on a 5 day cruise. At one of the ports of call, we made arrangements for a submarine excursion exploring the local reef that cost us 75 bucks apiece, The sub would hold about 75 and dived to about 100 feet with fairly large portholes to observe Davey Jones locker. Unfortunately 'me two seat-mate's were huge 300 pound porkers that would wipe out a Golden corral buffet in one sitting. I ended sitting on the arm-rest next to 'me wife the entire trip. The only reason I didn't erupt was that I didn't want to upset me new wife!
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:34:42am |
re: #376 Sharmuta
Of course we did! Just like we missed good shane, and red's hijinxed fruitcups.
---> being good, I promise.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:35:59am |
re: #378 BlueCanuck
Real gems? As in, rubies and emeralds?
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:37:21am |
re: #379 LoFlyer
You want believe this one mate, but I have a story just as bad! 'Me ex-wife and me had a wonderful honeymoon on a 5 day cruise. At one of the ports of call, we made arrangements for a submarine excursion exploring the local reef that cost us 75 bucks apiece, The sub would hold about 75 and dived to about 100 feet with fairly large portholes to observe Davey Jones locker. Unfortunately 'me two seat-mate's were huge 300 pound porkers that would wipe out a Golden corral buffet in one sitting. I ended sitting on the arm-rest next to 'me wife the entire trip. The only reason I didn't erupt was that I didn't want to upset me new wife!
No comment... being good. But I could tell you a story about Negril Beach Village (Hedonism II), its a nudist colony in Jamaica... but I am being good, so I wont talk about my young and wayward days.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:37:27am |
re: #381 littleoldlady
Ah, I wish. looking for knowledge. It's worth more then gold and diamonds sometimes.
/still looking for ways to make it payoff. :(
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:40:38am |
re: #382 shanec99
No comment... being good. But I could tell you a story about Negril Beach Village (Hedonism II), its a nudist colony in Jamaica... but I am being good, so I wont talk about my young and wayward days.
I gave up on being good years ago. I just want to be real. Having a lot of fun being 'me-self nowadays. Work hard, play hard!
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:44:30am |
re: #383 BlueCanuck
Ah, I wish. looking for knowledge. It's worth more then gold and diamonds sometimes.
/still looking for ways to make it payoff. :(
Funny. I'm in the middle of Epiphany Week. And my Realization du Jour is that one of the reasons I'm spinning my wheels is that I don't know how to build a webpage.
Oh, I could probably get a template and do a blech job of it, but I don't know how to make a page that looks the way I want it to and does what I want it to.
/ya see...if I'd won the Powerball I could afford to hire someone. :-(
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:49:29am |
re: #385 littleoldlady
Funny. I'm in the middle of Epiphany Week. And my Realization du Jour is that one of the reasons I'm spinning my wheels is that I don't know how to build a webpage.
Oh, I could probably get a template and do a blech job of it, but I don't know how to make a page that looks the way I want it to and does what I want it to.
/ya see...if I'd won the Powerball I could afford to hire someone. :-(
Some times its better to remain anonymous LOL!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:49:34am |
re: #385 littleoldlady
Some of the dummy books, and complete idiot guides would be a good start. I used "The Complete Idiots Guide to HTML" when I was taking computer programming back in college. It was cheaper and better then the text book we had to use.
/and more informative then the bloody teacher.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:49:44am |
What are the Libs gonna argue now that the Iraqi government has asked us to stay until 2011?
Are they still gonna say that Iraqis want us to leave?
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:51:42am |
re: #386 LoFlyer
Some times its better to remain anonymous LOL!
No chance of that!
/my parents named me littleoldlady
//how did they know?!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:52:46am |
re: #387 BlueCanuck
Some of the dummy books, and complete idiot guides would be a good start. I used "The Complete Idiots Guide to HTML" when I was taking computer programming back in college. It was cheaper and better then the text book we had to use.
/and more informative then the bloody teacher.
You would not believe how many XXX for dummies I have seen on the shelves of IT professionals, mates.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:55:02am |
re: #389 littleoldlady
No chance of that!
/my parents named me littleoldlady
//how did they know?!
They knew we all faced death and taxes! That makes you old, fast.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:56:18am |
re: #387 BlueCanuck
Hmmm. A book. Didn't think of that! (DUH.) I've been trying to find tutorials on the web.
Thanks!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:56:57am |
re: #390 LoFlyer
Wouldn't surprise me at all. With the amount of knowledge you would need to know, you can't memorize it all. One thing I understood before I melted down.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:57:43am |
re: #392 littleoldlady
There are a lot of good tutorials on the net. At home I think I have a bunch bookmarked from back in the day.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:05:39am |
re: #393 BlueCanuck
Wouldn't surprise me at all. With the amount of knowledge you would need to know, you can't memorize it all. One thing I understood before I melted down.
It would be nice if we produced a "life for dummies" book to avoid getting getting knocked up at fifteen or gaining a bad drug habit. Perhaps a parent wielding a 2X4 might have some effect, but parents are becoming more and more distant from their offspring. Our society is declining because we are neglecting our children. I am not talking about financial neglect, this is educational and emotional neglect by parents who should not of born children in the first place.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:08:27am |
re: #395 LoFlyer
One of the problems is that there's no decent Parents' Manual or documentation out there. I asked for one in the hospital after I had MNTS, but all they said was, "Here, let us show you how to change a diaper."
/thanks. I really could have figured that out for myself...
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:14:32am |
re: #396 littleoldlady
One of the problems is that there's no decent Parents' Manual or documentation out there. I asked for one in the hospital after I had MNTS, but all they said was, "Here, let us show you how to change a diaper."
/thanks. I really could have figured that out for myself...
Arr! Never had a child 'me-self! But I do have experience with children and was one a while back. They are all good, you just have to provide some guidance!
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Athos Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:14:56am |
re: #390 LoFlyer
You would not believe how many XXX for dummies I have seen on the shelves of IT professionals, mates.
And, you wouldn't believe how many dummies I've seen within IT...
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:17:30am |
So...do I need a program (like Dreamweaver) to do this?
And am I better off on the PC or the mac?
And if anyone here knows this stuff...does QuarkXpress have a web design module? because I already know how to use Quark.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:18:21am |
re: #398 Athos
And, you wouldn't believe how many dummies I've seen within IT...
You wouldn't believe how many I have seen in IT management mate! I will say this for the present, I am extremely pleased with 'me immediate and upper management. We have been through some tough times and all have pressed on!
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:23:04am |
re: #399 littleoldlady
So...do I need a program (like Dreamweaver) to do this?
And am I better off on the PC or the mac?
And if anyone here knows this stuff...does QuarkXpress have a web design module? because I already know how to use Quark.
I have no experience in web design LOL, do a search on free do it your self web design and see what you come with. There is a lot of stuff available for free..
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Athos Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:24:44am |
re: #400 LoFlyer
You wouldn't believe how many I have seen in IT management mate! I will say this for the present, I am extremely pleased with 'me immediate and upper management. We have been through some tough times and all have pressed on!
I was referencing more of the mgmt side than not...and I'm in the mgmt side so I have the PoV towards it.
That's ultimately the secret - finding a good mgmt team and philosophy...which seems, remarkedly, to go hand in hand with success.
Of course, success is a bad thing these days, what with companies wanting to become banks to collect a share of the 700 billion...
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:29:20am |
re: #402 Athos
I was referencing more of the mgmt side than not...and I'm in the mgmt side so I have the PoV towards it.
That's ultimately the secret - finding a good mgmt team and philosophy...which seems, remarkedly, to go hand in hand with success.
Of course, success is a bad thing these days, what with companies wanting to become banks to collect a share of the 700 billion...
It's kinda crazy nowadays, and stats show Americans are not spending nothing in the current crises. Extremely difficult to justify saving an entity that just delivered obscene profits to upper management.
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littleoldlady Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:35:09am |
Oh, dear. I drifted away without saying goodbye.
Goodbye! :-)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:39:17am |
re: #404 littleoldlady
Bye littleoldlady. Have a fun day.
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LoFlyer Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:40:13am |
re: #404 littleoldlady
Oh, dear. I drifted away without saying goodbye.
Goodbye! :-)
G'night LOL! BBl mates.
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shanec99 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:40:16am |
re: #404 littleoldlady
By everyone, gotta go, I need to enjoy a bit of the afternoon east African sun.
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yochanan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:40:27am |
re: #82 Moe Katz
Fenway Nation is a REDSox puppet.
fixed that for you we got our sox THE GREAT AND WONDERFUL WHITE SOX the only professional baseball team in chicagostan
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Athos Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:48:07am |
re: #408 yochanan
fixed that for you we got our sox THE GREAT AND WONDERFUL WHITE SOX the only professional baseball team in chicagostan
I don't know - Chicago, the land of the One...and the team of the south side too...
/guilt by association
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:22:10am |
*tap tap tap* Testing, testing. Are we live? Or is this memorex?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:23:41am |
Morning Spare O'Lake. How's the weather in your neck of the woods?
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:31:05am |
Bah rancher needs to be strung up now for posting links to yoko ono. And those that posted wing and linda links are next on the block for war crimes charges thats just cruel and unusual.
Rustler
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:31:44am |
Good morning lizards.
All two of you, looks like!
Now 3
Spare O'Lake - do you have a second nic, Sparrow Lake?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:32:53am |
Morning Rustler. That's actually becoming a time honoured tradition around here. Who can find the most painful piece of music on youtube. Of course he could have scored more points if he hadn't tipped his hand in the post.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:34:06am |
BBIAB I'm now documenting all the ways I fail at life in attempt to get onboard the whole bail out bus. Does an involuntary medical discharge from the military look good in my favor in an Obama admin since I was regected by the Army or does the whole honorable discharge and fact i wanted to stay in hurt me. Damn the things I'm gonna need to contemplate...Head hurts to much work screw it.///
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:36:47am |
re: #412 BlueCanuck
*tap tap tap* Testing, testing. Are we live? Or is this memorex?
This...is...a...recording...do...not...adjust...your...whatever...
L...O...L...
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:38:32am |
re: #413 BlueCanuck
Morning Spare O'Lake. How's the weather in your neck of the woods?
Good morning BC.
It's crappy here.
And the weather's not so good either...
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:38:49am |
Whoa!
Room filling up fast.
Morning HH, Rancher
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:38:57am |
Morning HH. Welcome to the life support thread.
/I know it's cold outside, no need for us to be acting like molasses.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:41:34am |
re: #415 reine.de.tout
Good morning lizards.
All two of you, looks like!
Now 3
Spare O'Lake - do you have a second nic, Sparrow Lake?
In Canada we don't have the Fifth Amendment.
I'll take number 5 instead - with whole wheat please.
:D
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:43:24am |
re: #421 reine.de.tout
Whoa!
Room filling up fast.
Morning HH, Rancher
Morning..waiting for coffee to brew..yawn
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:43:54am |
re: #423 Spare O'Lake
Hmmm, I believe that you live near my old stomping grounds. Relatively speaking.
/or have we had this convo before?
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:47:33am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:47:50am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:48:39am |
re: #425 HoosierHoops
Morning..waiting for coffee to brew..yawn
They have, nowadays, coffepots with things called timers.
You can set the timer so that the coffee is ready when you get up!
Technology is amazing. HH, think about investing in one of those timer thingies LOL.
My coffee was ready when I opened my eyes. No waiting.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:48:43am |
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:48:47am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:50:03am |
re: #426 BlueCanuck
Hmmm, I believe that you live near my old stomping grounds. Relatively speaking.
/or have we had this convo before?
Was that Bathurst and Lawrence? ;D
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Geepers Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:52:31am |
reine.de.tout (#431),
My coffee was ready when I opened my eyes. No waiting.
The magic of the Obama administration is beginning already!
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:54:15am |
re: #431 reine.de.tout
LOL
Almost ready...didn't think of making coffee when we got home last night/morning.
Had a lot of fun with some of our friends...
Come on coffee! damn it takes for friggin forever!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:54:38am |
re: #434 Spare O'Lake
Nope, that's my new stomping grounds. I lived in Central Ontario. Used to attend PSCI in my high school years.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:56:10am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:58:00am |
re: #435 Geepers
reine.de.tout (#431),
The magic of the Obama administration is beginning already!
Yep LOL
and HH needs to get with the program
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:59:48am |
Billy Mays on TV selling the "Handy Switch" with a powerful radio frequency that lets you control any lamp up to 50 feet away.
This stuff always looks good to me, and I always want to order it.
The minute these ads start playing, the Roi tells me, "NO, you can't have it".
Darn. It looks good, and they will double the offer!
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:00:09am |
re: #437 BlueCanuck
Nope, that's my new stomping grounds. I lived in Central Ontario. Used to attend PSCI in my high school years.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Here ya go.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:01:25am |
re: #440 reine.de.tout
Have you seen his ad for the glue? I'm not sure what to think about tearing a flag, gluing it and then sticking it in a wind chamber just to show how good the glue works.
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bp sf Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:02:15am |
The Handy Switch is briiliant! Sticks to the wall and controls a lamp or whatever. Highly recommended.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:03:12am |
re: #442 MandyManners
Have you seen his ad for the glue? I'm not sure what to think about tearing a flag, gluing it and then sticking it in a wind chamber just to show how good the glue works.
OOOH - That's another one I want.
The Roi wears his clothes until they are so old the fabric has dry-rotted.
Then asks me to repair them.
Now, I don't mind doing the repairs, but you can't repair that which no longer exists in any shape or form.
I thought I might try the glue.
And the sham-wow.
I've come so close to that one. ..
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:03:46am |
re: #443 bp sf
The Handy Switch is briiliant! Sticks to the wall and controls a lamp or whatever. Highly recommended.
You own a double order of this product?
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bp sf Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:05:14am |
Bought one at the mall; didn't get the TV "wait, there's more!" offer.
$14 for 1.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:05:17am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:07:18am |
re: #446 bp sf
Bought one at the mall; didn't get the TV "wait, there's more!" offer.
$14 for 1.
Hmm.
In Tennessee, I see a lot of these "As Seen on TV" stores. Haven't ever seen one here where I am.
The "extra postage" for the 2nd set of these things is always double or triple the postage for the first one. I know from experience. You really can't win.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:07:22am |
re: #445 reine.de.tout
Don't you have "As Seen On T.V." stores in your area?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:08:37am |
re: #444 reine.de.tout
What about using the flag just to sell that glue? Someone had to deliberately tear it.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:09:57am |
re: #451 MandyManners
What about using the flag just to sell that glue? Someone had to deliberately tear it.
Well, you're right. They probably should have used a generic flag.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:10:41am |
re: #442 MandyManners
Have you seen his ad for the glue? I'm not sure what to think about tearing a flag, gluing it and then sticking it in a wind chamber just to show how good the glue works.
I'm pretty sure his irritating beard is stuck on with that stuff.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:11:29am |
re: #452 reine.de.tout
Well, you're right. They probably should have used a generic flag.
Or, a pair of jeans.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:11:52am |
re: #453 Spare O'Lake
I'm pretty sure his irritating beard is stuck on with that stuff.
I'd hate to see that stuff wind up on his lips.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:12:13am |
re: #445 reine.de.tout
You own a double order of this product?
My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:12:39am |
re: #449 BlueCanuck
Don't you have "As Seen On T.V." stores in your area?
Nope. They seem to all be in Tennessee
We go to Tenn to visit sis-in-law.
I love Waffle House. On one trip, we came to an interstate intersection that had a Waffle House at each one of the 4 exits.
The Roi told me I'd hit a gold mine LOL.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:13:20am |
re: #455 MandyManners
I'd hate to see that stuff wind up on his lips.
Oh sure you say that now. But after a week of endless reruns and then nothing, you would be thankful. ;)
/unless they found some one even more annoying. Richard Simmons maybe?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:13:51am |
re: #456 HoosierHoops
My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot
Oh, I hope he's OK!
My dog used to chew the wood furniture. I started putting a couple of drops of tabasco sauce where he chewed, but where it wouldn't stain or be seen.
Cured him real quick.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:14:36am |
re: #458 BlueCanuck
Oh sure you say that now. But after a week of endless reruns and then nothing, you would be thankful. ;)
/unless they found some one even more annoying. Richard Simmons maybe?
I'd have a fit of the screamin' meemies.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:15:23am |
on A&E the biography of Janus Joplin is on.
What a waste..
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bp sf Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:15:40am |
Four Waffles Houses at one Interstate exit?
Where is this Redneck Mecca exactly?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:16:12am |
re: #456 HoosierHoops
My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot
My sister had a dog that ate socks. Very interesting deposits in the back yard.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:16:20am |
McIlhenny's Tabasco from Avery Island, LA
You can tour the original facility, which is still used to make tabasco. Place smells great. Like a big bottle of Tabasco.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:17:16am |
re: #463 MandyManners
Best, our mutt once ate a large box of Crayola crayons. Funniest part was it was the middle of the winter.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:17:37am |
re: #462 bp sf
Four Waffles Houses at one Interstate exit?
Where is this Redneck Mecca exactly?
heehee.
It's a secret.
Actually, I can recall the exact location, but it wasn't the only one.
We were on the interstate (can't recall which one) just past Chattanooga and came across this place.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:17:59am |
re: #459 reine.de.tout
Oh, I hope he's OK!
My dog used to chew the wood furniture. I started putting a couple of drops of tabasco sauce where he chewed, but where it wouldn't stain or be seen.
Cured him real quick.
I guess he doesn't get any more tennis ball toys..he chews the fuzz off...
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:18:16am |
re: #456 HoosierHoops
My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot
The great thing about my dog is that she somehow manages to barf up most of the foreign matter she manages to swallow.
Unfortunately it's usually on the carpet!
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:21:19am |
re: #465 BlueCanuck
Best, our mutt once ate a large box of Crayola crayons. Funniest part was it was the middle of the winter.
My cat once ate a mop string. Didn't know it until it was ready to be expelled, but it was only partially expelled. Daughter was about 6, told me there was something wrong with the cat. I put on my handy-dandy plastic gloves and tugged - cat went nuts. Called the Vet Emergency Center - they immediately said whatever you do, don't pull!
GAH.
It all ended up OK, but was a really strange day.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:21:57am |
re: #465 BlueCanuck
Best, our mutt once ate a large box of Crayola crayons. Funniest part was it was the middle of the winter.
Technicolor poop!
I once had a dog that ate a fifty-dollar bill.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:22:01am |
re: #468 Spare O'Lake
The great thing about my dog is that she somehow manages to barf up most of the foreign matter she manages to swallow.
Unfortunately it's usually on the carpet!
Natch.
Won't be on a nice smooth surface that will clean up easily.
Always the carpet. Maybe it reminds 'em of grass.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:22:49am |
Now a lawyer ad - "if you have suffered death from this drug, please call us at ..."
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:23:11am |
re: #469 reine.de.tout
I put on my handy-dandy plastic gloves and tugged - cat went nuts.
I bet it did.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:23:48am |
Lol Mandy I just saw that fast food commercial where they find 5 bucks in the dog "well what do I do" go to whereever fast food place I make it a point to ignore product names most of the time in ads unfortunately.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:23:54am |
re: #470 MandyManners
Technicolor poop!
I once had a dog that ate a fifty-dollar bill.
SHOOT YER DOG!
/LOL
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:24:03am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:24:59am |
re: #474 rancher
Lol Mandy I just saw that fast food commercial where they find 5 bucks in the dog "well what do I do" go to whereever fast food place I make it a point to ignore product names most of the time in ads unfortunately.
What in the world? How did they see the money?
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:25:20am |
re: #470 MandyManners
I once had a dog that ate a fifty-dollar bill.
Maybe you should've paid by check.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:25:24am |
re: #475 HoosierHoops
SHOOT YER DOG!
/LOL
I tried following her around for a couple days.
No. Just, no.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:27:43am |
re: #476 reine.de.tout
Had a cat once that liked to eat rubber bands. I had to lock them up 'cause they could do some pretty bad damage to his intestines. That was the same cat that loved green olives.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:28:21am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:29:29am |
re: #480 MandyManners
Had a cat once that liked to eat rubber bands. I had to lock them up 'cause they could do some pretty bad damage to his intestines. That was the same cat that loved green olives.
Yeah, I have to watch my cats more than the dog. Rubber bands are so fun for them to play with - they move around like some sort of living thing - but then the cat can't help but want to eat it.
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quickjustice Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:29:44am |
re: #81 pat
Coleridge was as high as a kite on opium when he wrote that.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:30:32am |
re: #481 rancher
I remember the attorney who taught us some commercial law telling us about a man who paid the IRS with a check written on a pig. I cannot recall the details but, the courts ruled that the IRS had to accept the pig as payment.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:31:04am |
re: #483 reine.de.tout
Yeah, I have to watch my cats more than the dog. Rubber bands are so fun for them to play with - they move around like some sort of living thing - but then the cat can't help but want to eat it.
They smell funky.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:32:07am |
re: #485 MandyManners
Wow, hand written cheques. I remember being shown how to that in school many moons ago. Actually did it once too. Wonder if you still can?
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:32:35am |
re: #482 MandyManners
Checks weren't good enough for that mutt.
Are we talking about a dog or a human? LOL.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:32:39am |
Technically as long as it has all the requisite account and routing info can hand print checks with a crayon on construction paper and legally it should be accepted.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:33:14am |
Saw this great commercial once..this lady is driving a white convertable with groceries in the back seat..
This really cute dog steps in front of the car and sits down..the car screeches to a stop..another big dog runs up the trunk and grabs a bag of dog food from the back seat..and then both dogs run off together..
Then the logo for the dog food..I mean it was so funny...
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:34:13am |
I haven'tactually used one except once at the PX while in the army id forgotten my Atm card etc in my deployment neck pouch so wrote up the check and cashed it there with little issue once they confirmed the relevant info with the bank.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:34:22am |
re: #488 BlueCanuck
Wow, hand written cheques. I remember being shown how to that in school many moons ago. Actually did it once too. Wonder if you still can?
How young are you, exactly?
I am so glad I don't have to write out a bunch of checks any more - debit cards are great!
But the one I use for internet stuff lls is an account where I put just what I need, no more.
Anybody takes my number, they're not gonna get much.
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quickjustice Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:34:27am |
re: #485 MandyManners
There's also a case about a check written on the side of a cow. In theory, the medium doesn't matter. The IRS simply should have made some bacon!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:35:22am |
re: #491 HoosierHoops
Ever see that insurance commercial where a squirrel causes a car to swerve off the road? After the car is in the ditch the squirrel runs up to his body and they each do a fist bump routine.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:35:45am |
re: #490 rancher
Technically as long as it has all the requisite account and routing info can hand print checks with a crayon on construction paper and legally it should be accepted.
This is true.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:36:44am |
re: #495 BlueCanuck
Ever see that insurance commercial where a squirrel causes a car to swerve off the road? After the car is in the ditch the squirrel runs up to his body and they each do a fist bump routine.
yea..that one is funny..
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:36:45am |
re: #493 reine.de.tout
Never said how young I was. Let's put it this way. When I started high school calculators weren't allowed in the math final exams. ;)
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:36:50am |
Too bad they couldn't lower the amount on the check based on the value of the livestock but i beleive both those stories reference a time when the value of a single head of livestock was low so wouldn't have offset much.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:38:58am |
Then again I'm now a check card junky i hate writting out check and thru my last couple bank accounts haven't even ordered an initial batch of checks. Still Rustler btw
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:39:04am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:40:53am |
re: #498 BlueCanuck
Never said how young I was. Let's put it this way. When I started high school calculators weren't allowed in the math final exams. ;)
When I started high school, calculators weren't even around. Well, they were, but they were huge machines that cost lots of money, not ones you could carry in your pocket.
My grandfather had an "adding machine" - must have had 10 or 12 or 15 rows of numbers, 0-9, and you had to punch the number in, like an old manual typewriter, then pull a lever and it would put the number on the tape, then you punched the add or whatever button, pulled the lever and it would all add up.
We used to love playing with it when we visited.
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:40:54am |
re: #498 BlueCanuck
Never said how young I was. Let's put it this way. When I started high school calculators weren't allowed in the math final exams. ;)
Ah very young... when I was in high school there was no such thing as a calculator. (at least not a portable one). As I recall the very first calculators were in about 1972.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:41:25am |
Our previous lab, now deceased, once swallowed a pair of my wife's panties. I was totally grossed out when I noticed them hanging out the back end.
Of course I reported this to my wife immediately.
Did I once read somewhere that labs are an intelligent breed?/
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:41:49am |
Gotta love the hotel I work at have a garbage disposal in the sink that isn't attached to power so when people dump stuff down it it clogs was up to my elbows in coffee trying to un plug it.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:42:16am |
re: #502 HoosierHoops
Good morning..coffee is ready..
/finally reine!
Great! I know that makes you happy.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:43:20am |
re: #501 rancher
Then again I'm now a check card junky i hate writting out check and thru my last couple bank accounts haven't even ordered an initial batch of checks. Still Rustler btw
here's a joke you can tell Rancher..
3 ranchers sitting around in a bar smoking cigars and bragging about how rich they are.
one says i got me 10000 acres and 5000 head of cattle
the second one says heck i got me 20000 acres and 10000 head of cattle.
The third one says..that ain't nuthing..
Well what do you have?
I got me 37 acres..
37 acres! they cried..where?
Downtown Dallas..
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:43:57am |
re: #504 reine.de.tout
re: #505 Dasher
First electronic calculator that I ever saw was plugged into the wall had LED numbers and could do only basic math. No decimal points either. In school when we were finally allowed to use calculators, I had a geek friend drop $150 on scientific calculator that did binary, decimal, octal, and hex.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:44:32am |
re: #506 Spare O'Lake
Our previous lab, now deceased, once swallowed a pair of my wife's panties. I was totally grossed out when I noticed them hanging out the back end.
Of course I reported this to my wife immediately.
Did I once read somewhere that labs are an intelligent breed?/
LOLOLOLOL!
That's what happened with the mop string my cat swallowed. Plus, she had been outside and there were leaves stuck to it.
And of course, the entire family reported to me that there was something "wrong" with the cat.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:45:11am |
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:45:25am |
re: #504 reine.de.tout
When I started high school, calculators weren't even around. Well, they were, but they were huge machines that cost lots of money, not ones you could carry in your pocket.
My grandfather had an "adding machine" - must have had 10 or 12 or 15 rows of numbers, 0-9, and you had to punch the number in, like an old manual typewriter, then pull a lever and it would put the number on the tape, then you punched the add or whatever button, pulled the lever and it would all add up.
We used to love playing with it when we visited.
I remember the Monroe calculator. They cost about $2000 and could actually do sq rt. One problem if you accidentally divided by zero, you would have to send them in for repair.
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:01am |
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:09am |
re: #511 reine.de.tout
We have a schnoodle that eats kleenex, but only if they're used.
G'mornin all!
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:09am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:40am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:48:02am |
I'm so old I used to know how to do long division.
Do kids even learn that anymore?
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:48:27am |
re: #515 Dasher
I know that I've read that in many Asian marketplaces that they use the abacus to this day, and quite skillfully.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:48:40am |
re: #516 Bumr50
We have a schnoodle that eats kleenex, but only if they're used.
G'mornin all!
Good morning!
I suppose we'll get all obama all the time on the news shows this morning..
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:49:17am |
re: #519 Spare O'Lake
I'm so old I used to know how to do long division.
Do kids even learn that anymore?
Just asked my 17 year old
She said they learned how in 3rd grade, but usually use calculators in class.
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:49:38am |
The first 4 function calc I ever bought cost $120. But it had a feature that even today's don't have. You could set the number of significant decimal points to display. What a great feature that was. Don't know why none seem to have that now.
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yochanan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:49:40am |
easyier for me to just make change than to use the cash register to do it one more chance for a typo
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:50:00am |
re: #519 Spare O'Lake
Don't know. When a basic calculator includes minor science functions costs less then $5. Who needs too.
/remember and Asimov story similar to those lines.
//forgotten how to do square roots by hand.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:50:34am |
re: #525 yochanan
easyier for me to just make change than to use the cash register to do it one more chance for a typo
Yoch - people can't make change anymore, that's a fact.
I'm amazed by it. If the machine doesn't tell them, then they are lost.
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paint-right Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:53:36am |
anyone learn how to do Chisum Bop? Anyone still use it?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:53:47am |
I can't help but wonder, allowing kids to use calculators in class, hasn't opened the door for more rigorous teaching in math concepts and functions, since the nuts and bolts stuff is done quickly on calculators.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:54:14am |
re: #528 paint-right
anyone learn how to do Chisum Bop? Anyone still use it?
Chisum Bop? What's that?
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yochanan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:54:39am |
looking to get a basic digatal cam nothing real fancy going to use it to take snap shots and pic of my art work.
any suggestions moderate price if possible
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:54:39am |
re: #521 HoosierHoops
And how he's not at the big meeting where they're going to figure out how to make wealth through diplomatic alchemy?
Even on my favorite right leaning sites, the wakes for the GOP are getting old. Instead of coming up with new ideas, writers seem to just be reiterating how if only their ideas on conservatism had been followed we wouldn't be in this pickle.
IMO hardcore social conservatives are going to be difficult to negotiate with, but perhaps necessarily so to come up with a satisfactory and viable party.
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paint-right Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:56:03am |
re: #530 BlueCanuck
Chisum Bop? What's that?
a sort of finger calculator system, Korean in origin i think, and once was the coming thing, on tyalkl shows etc, kids calculating big problems on their two hands... then it disappeared
ten or fifteen yrs ago
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:56:34am |
re: #529 reine.de.tout
Sigh. If only teachers would be able to ensure that all of their students could do the work.
This is where no child left behind fails our kids.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:57:37am |
re: #531 yochanan
looking to get a basic digatal cam nothing real fancy going to use it to take snap shots and pic of my art work.
any suggestions moderate price if possible
I have an Olympus that is easy and intuitive to use.
Lower-end casios are also good.
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:57:59am |
re: #529 reine.de.tout
I can't help but wonder, allowing kids to use calculators in class, hasn't opened the door for more rigorous teaching in math concepts and functions, since the nuts and bolts stuff is done quickly on calculators.
Quality teachers is the problem.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:58:15am |
re: #534 paint-right
a sort of finger calculator system, Korean in origin i think, and once was the coming thing, on tyalkl shows etc, kids calculating big problems on their two hands... then it disappeared
ten or fifteen yrs ago
I've seen that done.
It's fast and accurate.
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:00:00am |
re: #535 Bumr50
Sigh. If only teachers would be able to ensure that all of their students could do the work.
This is where no child left behind fails our kids.
That "ALL" students is the problem. Not going to happen. As soon as they figure that out the better off everyone will be.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:00:55am |
Was under the impression that TI brand calculators still allowed the setting of signifiacant decimals. Maybe only on the 80 plus series ones tho or My TI 82 is just ancient. Think i got it in 92ish.
Rustler
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:00:58am |
re: #535 Bumr50
Sigh. If only teachers would be able to ensure that all of their students could do the work.
This is where no child left behind fails our kids.
Yep.
My impression here is that private schools have so much less government and NEA PC BS to put up with, the teachers have the sort of time it takes to tend to students, regardless of class size.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:02:30am |
re: #539 Dasher
Trust me, I have seen friends that use a calculator for simple addition. Smart people, but adding four or five numbers together and out comes mister calc. I weep for the children in school now.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:03:04am |
Waiting for the roofers to come finish the job they started yesterday. Yesterday they were here at 7:30 am. Today, it's almost 8 and no sign of 'em.
If they had understood English, I could have found out what time they were coming back.
The only English they seem to know is "Hello", and "We'll be back tomorrow to finish" and "Please move your car".
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:03:41am |
re: #542 BlueCanuck
Trust me, I have seen friends that use a calculator for simple addition. Smart people, but adding four or five numbers together and out comes mister calc. I weep for the children in school now.
Well, that's me.
I couldn't add even when there were no calculators.
My brain just completely fails me.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:03:59am |
re: #541 reine.de.tout
We have a trial voucher system here in Pittsburgh that's worked with flying colors, but you don't hear about in the local media.
The unions are strong in this area. Our teachers still strike during the school year.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:05:34am |
Kyl is making alot of sense to me about the auto bail-out
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:05:53am |
I solved a dilemma. There's a park dad who started really paying attention to me despite my customary reading books while The Kid played with his son and other kids. So, we started talking over the past few weeks. He's in the middle of a nasty divorce and despises CBBHO so, we had that in common.
The other day, he said that his STBX had had him arrested for slapping her face while he held their infant but, it was all her fault 'cause she said something mean. I gave him the stink eye and told him there is no excuse for domestic violence. I stood up and started looking around to find The Kid to leave. Then, the dumbshit uttered a racial slur. I hollered, "Kid, to the car. Now." I didn't even look at the creep again.
The problem is that his little boy and The Kid like to play together and get along famously. So, I worried this weekend how to tell The Kid that we would not be going to the park in this town because that dipshit would be there. It's not a big enough park so that we could ignore them, and dipshit has shown that he doesn't respect boundaries--he's come to my car seeking me out at times.
I finally came up with, "Kid, until you get to know someone, you don't really know what they're like. Dipshit is not a nice person and I don't want you to be around him. We can go to the park in Other City."
Maybe I shouldn't let that dipshit chase me off but, I don't want a confrontation at the park--it should be a safe place for kids with no negative vibes polluting the air. And, he's shown a willingness to act inappropriately to women who disagree with him. I don't need that shit in my life.
Gah.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:06:05am |
re: #545 Bumr50
We have a trial voucher system here in Pittsburgh that's worked with flying colors, but you don't hear about in the local media.
The unions are strong in this area. Our teachers still strike during the school year.
O fer cryin' out loud.
Striking during the school year is just wrong wrong wrong.
We don't have many strikes here for some reason. But then, about half the population sends their kids to private or parochial schools.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:09:44am |
re: #547 MandyManners
Oh wow. Sounds like a really classless moron. Yeah, sometimes it's best to avoid bad situations that could escalate.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:09:50am |
re: #547 MandyManners
You are right..there is never an excuse for domestic violence..
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:09:51am |
re: #548 reine.de.tout
My alma mater has been on strike for two weeks. The last time they struck (last contract) I was in the eighth grade (17 yrs. or so) and remember the seniors beingg especially concerned about their transcripts.
Apparently now there are parents protesting the strikers decision to go on strike during such tough economic times.
Our local Port Authority is looking to strike right before Christmas. You're not gonn a wanna see those protests.
Ain't labor unions wonderful!
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:10:12am |
re: #547 MandyManners
What was the racial slur? If you don't mind me asking.
The guy does sound like a major league a-hole.
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BBEV Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:11:01am |
re: #543 reine.de.tout
Waiting for the roofers to come finish the job they started yesterday. Yesterday they were here at 7:30 am. Today, it's almost 8 and no sign of 'em.
If they had understood English, I could have found out what time they were coming back.
The only English they seem to know is "Hello", and "We'll be back tomorrow to finish" and "Please move your car".
I am in construction, Real Estate Development and property Management so I have a couple of questions for you.
1) did you research who you were hiring
2) if so why did you hirer a company that uses illegal labor
3) did you take the lowest price
4) if so did you think why they were the cheapest
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:11:20am |
re: #549 Bumr50
Who?
ohhh.watching chris wallace on fox news..had Kyl from AZ. explaining his idea to just let the big 3 go chapter 11 like everybody else does..like the airlines.
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Pullus Iulius Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:11:49am |
re: #547 MandyManners
Good analysis and good decision.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:12:35am |
re: #555 HoosierHoops
Oh ok! I can't turn on the TV yet. Late sleepers.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:13:24am |
re: #550 BlueCanuck
Oh wow. Sounds like a really classless moron. Yeah, sometimes it's best to avoid bad situations that could escalate.
A small part of me thinks I could teach him a thing or two about domestic violence but, it's not my job to teach the world. My job is to protect myself and The Kid.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:13:36am |
re: #552 Bumr50
My alma mater has been on strike for two weeks. The last time they struck (last contract) I was in the eighth grade (17 yrs. or so) and remember the seniors beingg especially concerned about their transcripts.
Apparently now there are parents protesting the strikers decision to go on strike during such tough economic times.
Our local Port Authority is looking to strike right before Christmas. You're not gonn a wanna see those protests.Ain't labor unions wonderful!
Louisiana is a right to work state. I can't recall the last time I heard about anybody striking in this area.
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:14:30am |
GM, Ford, and Chrysler should fail. From the ashes, new companies could emerge that could compete. As it is you can't supply them with enough money. They will just come back for more.
I here the latest plan is to accelerate the the $25 bil legislation already passed and drop some of the mandates. i.e. ridiculous CAFE standards.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:14:56am |
re: #551 HoosierHoops
You are right..there is never an excuse for domestic violence..
The way he blithely blamed her--as if to say it's only logical to smack a woman who says something "bad" to you--let me know what an asshole he is. I mean, he was holding their infant at the time. What if she had struck back and the baby got hurt?!
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:15:08am |
re: #560 reine.de.tout
We're looking to relocate once I finish my bachelor's degree. LA might be a bit muggy for my better half. We're looking at maybe NC.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:16:37am |
re: #553 x-wing
What was the racial slur? If you don't mind me asking.
The guy does sound like a major league a-hole.
I'm not gonna' repeat it. Just thinking about it pisses me off. Why in the world would he think that I would welcome such a word around me? He must run in some pretty trashy circles to think nothing of saying it.
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akak Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:17:45am |
Good for you Mandy! Hate to see your kid lose a friend, but.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:17:51am |
re: #562 MandyManners
The way he blithely blamed her--as if to say it's only logical to smack a woman who says something "bad" to you--let me know what an asshole he is. I mean, he was holding their infant at the time. What if she had struck back and the baby got hurt?!
no wonder he is involved in a nasty divorce...
POS
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:17:56am |
re: #556 Pullus Iulius
Good analysis and good decision.
I knew we'd not go back until he goes back to work and quits bringing his son to the park but, I couldn't figure out what to tell The Kid. There are some things a child does not need to know about.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:18:48am |
re: #561 Dasher
I was under the impression that the 25 billion was already earmarked pre-bailout and they just want it quicker and all at once.
I've written my rep. expressing my desire that any bailout (let's face the music - it's gonna happen) MUST include some financial responsibility be borne by the UAW. Even if it's small. Trust me - anything will get these morons riled up enough to express their selfishness to the point that there is a public awareness and outcry.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:07am |
re: #554 BBEV
I am in construction, Real Estate Development and property Management so I have a couple of questions for you.
1) did you research who you were hiring
2) if so why did you hirer a company that uses illegal labor
3) did you take the lowest price
4) if so did you think why they were the cheapest
1. Hubby did this
2. I'm not sure they're illegal. They may very well be here legally.
3. Nope
4. They did the neighbor's roof and did a good job.
After Katrina, there was no one here to fill jobs. Literally no one. Mcdonald's, for crying out loud, was offering employment bonuses of a couple thousand dollars for people to come work the service counter!
We ended up with an influx of Mexicans, who truly did do the jobs that we could not find Americans to do. In N.O. they lived in a tent city at NO city park. There was nowhere else to live. The residents didn't even have places to live.
I am strongly for secure borders. But my experience here is that there are jobs Americans won't do - manual work, work in hot and uncomfortable situations. We would be at a standstill if it weren't for the Mexicans doing people's yard work, roofing, etc. They aren't taking jobs away from anybody - they're being hired because contractors can't find other employees. We've had an influx of Mexicans and some Jamaicans.
For these types of situations, the gov't has got to come up with some sort of guest worker program.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:20am |
re: #558 MandyManners
Anyone willing to use violence as a is worthless. I don't know how many times I have just walked away from people that were provoking me. I can actually say that I have only been in three fights as an adult. Two at a bar I was working at.
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opnion Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:48am |
Greetings from the airport Lizards. It is with great pleasure that I report that i have successfully navigated the suspected felon screening.
I need to make a note to myself to wear a turban next time & carry a copy of the Koran, so that I can get some respect around here.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:53am |
re: #563 Bumr50
We're looking to relocate once I finish my bachelor's degree. LA might be a bit muggy for my better half. We're looking at maybe NC.
La. is too muggy for anybody's taste.
But I love it here, anyhow.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:20:29am |
re: #559 Bumr50
Good job!
Thanks! When The Kid heard me and came running up to me on the way to the car, he didn't protest that it wasn't time to go. I probably was puffed up pretty large with a stern look on my face--think of Gandalf in Frodo's house when Frodo tried to get Gandalf to take the Ring.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:20:37am |
re: #564 MandyManners
It sucks you'll have to find another park for The Kid to play in, but you did the right thing. I feel sorry for the other kid though, having to grow up in that atmosphere.
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Dasher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:20:45am |
re: #568 Bumr50
The $25 billion, was to be doled out over time to help retool for higher gas mileage vehicles. Now they may re-purpose the cash for "lets just stay alive money". At least that is the direction Bush says he will support.
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Karridine Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:05am |
Oh, WOW!
I check in to see the latest in swayve, savvy speech... and we're discussing dog-vomit!
/way kewl count me owt...
Bunking down for a Sunday night in Bangkok's rainy suburbs... Have a GREAT Sunday, y'all
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:05am |
re: #571 opnion
Greetings from the airport Lizards. It is with great pleasure that I report that i have successfully navigated the suspected felon screening.
I need to make a note to myself to wear a turban next time & carry a copy of the Koran, so that I can get some respect around here.
No prayer rug?
Jeez
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:46am |
re: #565 akak
Good for you Mandy! Hate to see your kid lose a friend, but.
I can't police everything in his life as he grows up but, I can make decisions about what to expose him to while he's young.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:49am |
re: #576 Karridine
Oh, WOW!
I check in to see the latest in swayve, savvy speech... and we're discussing dog-vomit!
/
way kewlcount me owt...Bunking down for a Sunday night in Bangkok's rainy suburbs... Have a GREAT Sunday, y'all
Aw, keep reading!
It gets better.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:23:02am |
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:23:13am |
III mmigghtt hhave ddrank tooo much cooofffee
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:23:29am |
re: #566 HoosierHoops
no wonder he is involved in a nasty divorce...
POS
HIs STBX is no saint from what he says but, that's FROM WHAT HE SAYS.
Ick. I didn't need to be around that shit any way. BTDT.
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BBEV Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:24:36am |
re: #569 reine.de.tout
I have to disagree with you on the labor part, I live here in New Hampshire and had many friends that were going to go to that area to work but the pay was next to nothing and you had to be able to speak Spanish so that fight does not work for me. It is the greedy contractors that give a bad name to the good ones.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:24:41am |
re: #583 Karridine
Better and better and
better go to bed. G'nite, Weet Kween!
good night, weet dreams
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:25:07am |
OT - David Gilmour's Live in Gdansk CD set is worth purchasing for those into that sort of music. I got the 2CD + DVD version and am happy!
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opnion Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:25:24am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:25:27am |
re: #570 BlueCanuck
Anyone willing to use violence as a is worthless. I don't know how many times I have just walked away from people that were provoking me. I can actually say that I have only been in three fights as an adult. Two at a bar I was working at.
There are fighting words. The time that clod called me that C-word...I bet he never called a woman that again.
Maybe I'm a hypocrite.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:26:51am |
re: #584 BBEV
I have to disagree with you on the labor part, I live here in New Hampshire and had many friends that were going to go to that area to work but the pay was next to nothing and you had to be able to speak Spanish so that fight does not work for me. It is the greedy contractors that give a bad name to the good ones.
You may be absolutely correct. I don't have enough experience with contractors to know. I do know that it used to be pert near impossible to get roofing work done. The last time we replaced our roof, it was a 6 month wait.
Now, pay here is going to be lower than in your part of the country, regardless of anything else.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:26:54am |
re: #574 x-wing
It sucks you'll have to find another park for The Kid to play in, but you did the right thing. I feel sorry for the other kid though, having to grow up in that atmosphere.
He has a baby and a six-year-old boy, and a 17-year-old son who seems to have his head on straight--very soft-spoken and polite. Who knows?
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:27:16am |
re: #547 MandyManners
Absolutely good call. There is just no alternative.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:27:59am |
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:19am |
Good morning all y'all - from a COLD (37 degrees, going all the way up to 54 today, going down BELOW FREEZING tonight) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:22am |
re: #574 x-wing
Maybe she taught him a lesson that'll stick with him. People actually do change sometimes.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:42am |
re: #588 MandyManners
There are fighting words. The time that clod called me that C-word...I bet he never called a woman that again.
Maybe I'm a hypocrite.
I get the feeling that the C-word he used wasn't Cutie-pie ;>}
/white smoke.
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BBEV Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:44am |
re: #589 reine.de.tout
You may be absolutely correct. I don't have enough experience with contractors to know. I do know that it used to be pert near impossible to get roofing work done. The last time we replaced our roof, it was a 6 month wait.
Now, pay here is going to be lower than in your part of the country, regardless of anything else.
The problem is that I could easly bring a few crews down there to work but I would be under bid every time by other contractors paying low wages.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:48am |
re: #591 legalpad
Absolutely good call. There is just no alternative.
Maybe the cut will cause him to think. But, I'm glad he said what he said so that I didn't spend any more time talking to him. Weed 'em out.
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akak Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:30:36am |
Hussein wants Israel to go back to 67 borders?
At least on a more positive not he'll likely tell GM to get stuffed and the Dow will go to 5000 or lower.
/penny stocks anyone?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:30:38am |
re: #595 Bumr50
Maybe she taught him a lesson that'll stick with him. People actually do change sometimes.
If going to jail didn't teach him a lesson about DV, I don't know what would.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:30:59am |
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:31:25am |
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:31:38am |
Well how's about some music for today - to kinda warm up and give ya something anyone can sing along with?!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:31:52am |
re: #600 akak
Hussein wants Israel to go back to 67 borders?
At least on a more positive not he'll likely tell GM to get stuffed and the Dow will go to 5000 or lower.
/penny stocks anyone?
Where/when did he say that?
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:32:06am |
re: #574 x-wing
It sucks you'll have to find another park for The Kid to play in, but you did the right thing. I feel sorry for the other kid though, having to grow up in that atmosphere.
The really sad part is that his kid is more likely than not to develop Dad's bad manners.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:32:38am |
re: #597 BBEV
The problem is that I could easly bring a few crews down there to work but I would be under bid every time by other contractors paying low wages.
Gotcha.
Maybe that's why we couldn't get anyone here after Katrina (low wages to begin with), and ended up with a bunch of Mexicans. They weren't here before that.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:32:44am |
re: #594 realwest
Good morning all y'all - from a COLD (37 degrees, going all the way up to 54 today, going down BELOW FREEZING tonight) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
Good Morning Realwest!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:33:28am |
re: #603 x-wing
Hopefully she did. She does seem to have that affect on people.
/I love tuff women.
Part of me thinks that the cut would make him think but, I realize that it's not my place to teach him.
Co-dependent no more!
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:33:43am |
re: #601 MandyManners
Touche. I forgot about that part.
From what I've seen of domestic abusers, it's more of a nurture than a nature thing. Daddy put mommy in her place sort of thing.
Hopefully with the ever-expanding interconnectedness of the world, the kids'll be able to discern that this is an unacceptable way of dealing with emotions.
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sadhu Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:33:52am |
Triangle Complex fire - live ABC video: [Link: abclocal.go.com...]
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:02am |
re: #598 MandyManners
Maybe the cut will cause him to think.
No. These guys are incurable. My wife's ex beat her and she filed after a few months of marriage.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:23am |
re: #606 tappin52
The really sad part is that his kid is more likely than not to develop Dad's bad manners.
DV is generational. That's one reason I divorced my X.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:50am |
re: #600 akak
Morning to you! Well I don't want to hurt any lizards who work for the Big 3 or any of their hundreds and hundreds of subcontractors, but I sure hope we DO tell the Big 3 to work it out for themselves or go bankrupt.
Never saw 3 major corporations get run into the ground pretty nearly of their own incompetence than GM, Ford and Chrysler.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:54am |
re: #601 MandyManners
If going to jail didn't teach him a lesson about DV, I don't know what would.
I must've missed that earlier. The guy actually spent time in the slammer for it? Yeah, it was only a slap..riiight.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:35:40am |
re: #611 Bumr50
Touche. I forgot about that part.
From what I've seen of domestic abusers, it's more of a nurture than a nature thing. Daddy put mommy in her place sort of thing.
Hopefully with the ever-expanding interconnectedness of the world, the kids'll be able to discern that this is an unacceptable way of dealing with emotions.
It's kinda' hard to un-learn those lessons when they're taught from a very early age.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:36:58am |
re: #608 HoosierHoops
Hey, good morning Hoops - how are you today? I reckon the Colts ought to pick up an easy win today - my Giants I'm not so sure about!
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:12am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:16am |
re: #593 MandyManners
Nothing as nasty as an adrenaline crash. Hate them myself. Worse then drinking a pot of coffee. An adrenaline rush will keep me wired for hours.
/used to get them from dealing with an ex-guard.
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BBEV Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:42am |
re: #607 reine.de.tout
Gotcha.
Maybe that's why we couldn't get anyone here after Katrina (low wages to begin with), and ended up with a bunch of Mexicans. They weren't here before that.
I'm sorry to hear that and I do understand your situation.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:58am |
Morning...
Let us not speak of them; but look, and pass on.
Nothing is new. Consider "Those We Do Not Speak Of" from M. Night Shyamalan's The Village.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:38:55am |
re: #621 BBEV
I'm sorry to hear that and I do understand your situation.
Things are often more complicated than what they appear on the surface to be.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:39:17am |
re: #618 realwest
Hey, good morning Hoops - how are you today? I reckon the Colts ought to pick up an easy win today - my Giants I'm not so sure about!
Doing great today..we are having a Colts party today..
It's a must win it seems for the rest of the year..no let down or else no play-offs.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:19am |
And speaking of raising kids (fair notice: never done it myself) here's a story that kinda makes you go "Hmmm" :
Boy allegedly hits mom with saw, offers her $5
"FORT PIERCE, Fla. - Authorities say an 11-year-old boy hit his mother in the head with a saw and then offered her $5 not to call police. The St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office reported that the boy and his 41-year-old mother got into an argument Wednesday when she was trying to get him to take his medication.
The boy left and went to another home, where he began hitting a tree with a saw. When the mother finally caught up with the boy, authorities say he hit her in the head with the saw, causing a minor laceration. A sheriff's report said that's when the boy began pleading with his mother not to call police and offered her a $5 bill.
The boy is facing an aggravated battery charge."
[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:30am |
re: #616 x-wing
You never know these days. Worked with a guy that went to court for "hitting" his wife. What happened was she rushed him and he deflected her onto the bed. (what he said). Ex-girlfriend charged her former boyfriend with assault. Found out the hard way that she was the abusive one. Me being raised right and fairly smart lit out for the hills the minute I got the chance.
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tappin52 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:48am |
I count myself lucky to have married a guy who was taught that men don't hit women. Period. We taught our sons the same. But everywhere you look today the girls are pretty in-your-face and bitchy and not at all afraid of throwing the first punch. I'm glad mine are grown.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:52am |
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:41:30am |
Manning vs.Manning in the Superbowl.
The greatest SB EVAH!
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:42:09am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:42:17am |
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:43:31am |
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:04am |
re: #632 HoosierHoops
Manning vs.Manning in the Superbowl.
The greatest SB EVAH!
I would watch that! Morning Hoopster and All.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:06am |
re: #636 HoosierHoops
Super Bowl Walter..
Good morning!
Ah, I don't understand. Superbowl is one word?
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:34am |
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:49am |
re: #632 HoosierHoops
Not if Willie Parker's healthy. Nice new digs though! Have you been to a game there yet?
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:45:06am |
re: #619 Bumr50
Why thank you - yeah, that line from my link "GOOD MORNING AMERICA HOW ARE YA, DON'T YOU KNOW ME I'M YOUR NATIVE SON?" Always sorta gets me and the same for the rest of the lyrics.
But damn it's hard not to sing along with those two lines I put up there!
Loved the cars in yours - good cover of a great song, but the eye-candy was kinda distracting so I'm listening to it without the video!
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:46:53am |
re: #623 taxfreekiller
Hi tfk. Had my coffee this morning so I am looking on the bright side.
It's only going to be 2-4 years and the electorate may learn a few things they might have forgotten (me included).
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akak Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:47:04am |
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:47:14am |
re: #624 BBEV
Good morning BBEV my friend - how's things going for ya?
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:47:29am |
re: #640 Bumr50
Not if Willie Parker's healthy. Nice new digs though! Have you been to a game there yet?
Yes.. I went to the very first game there... Have tiks for the Bengals game..
The big screen is amazing..we laughed about how we keep watching it instead of looking down on the field..amazing clarity and sharpness.
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BBev Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:48:09am |
re: #644 realwest
Good morning BBEV my friend - how's things going for ya?
Not well my friend not well
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:48:24am |
re: #641 realwest
No doubt - Arlo is an icon.
I first heard that recording on a Best of Jerry compilation from Rhino and it blew my socks off.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:50:52am |
re: #645 HoosierHoops
Bengals! Nice! Guaranteed victory. Betcha didn't know that when you got them though. I never did like that balloon you guys had, but it gave you the noise thing.
I'm not real impressed with Heinz Field, except for the general layout and location. I think they could've done better with the $$. My opinion though.
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JustMyView Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:51:29am |
re: #638 Walter L. Newton
Ah, I don't understand. Superbowl is one word?
Two words. Like Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, etc.
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:51:51am |
re: #641 realwest
Why thank you - yeah, that line from my link "GOOD MORNING AMERICA HOW ARE YA, DON'T YOU KNOW ME I'M YOUR NATIVE SON?" Always sorta gets me and the same for the rest of the lyrics.
But damn it's hard not to sing along with those two lines I put up there!
Loved the cars in yours - good cover of a great song, but the eye-candy was kinda distracting so I'm listening to it without the video!
Good morning Realwest. I hadn't thought of that song in a long time. I went back and am listening now. Thanks.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:53:48am |
re: #630 Walter L. Newton
Huh, ya mean: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
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akak Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:53:52am |
re: #615 realwest
Morning to you! Well I don't want to hurt any lizards who work for the Big 3 or any of their hundreds and hundreds of subcontractors, but I sure hope we DO tell the Big 3 to work it out for themselves or go bankrupt.
Never saw 3 major corporations get run into the ground pretty nearly of their own incompetence than GM, Ford and Chrysler.
Good Moring Realwest!
If they could just make Detroit fall into the ocean instead of California, their balance sheets would be so much better.
/expand the Great Lakes maybe?
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:53:59am |
re: #628 BlueCanuck
I wont disagree there. The guy in Mandys' case sounds a little too shady for me. I had an incindent with an ex-girlfriend that involved the police one night. I didn't touch her, but I was looked at as the bad guy. So yeah,it happens, but if this guy went to jail, there had to be proof.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:54:04am |
re: #648 Bumr50
Bengals! Nice! Guaranteed victory. Betcha didn't know that when you got them though. I never did like that balloon you guys had, but it gave you the noise thing.
I'm not real impressed with Heinz Field, except for the general layout and location. I think they could've done better with the $$. My opinion though.
The most important thing is trying to get tickets for the SuperBowl here in 2012. It is the mission..failure is not an option...
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:55:33am |
re: #635 Bumr50
Oh I don't know. The Texans have forgotten him on occasion this season.
My upset pick is Cowboys over Redskins.
The pick that upset me was the Patriots losing to the Jets (although I read it was a pretty good game -- !@#$%^&*() NFL pay-per-view).
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:55:55am |
re: #652 Bumr50
Good mornin! Love the puppy!
Thank you, my avatar is of my little Meggie, she recently passed away. I just adopted a rescue dog yesterday. So far so good, but she is still a little timid. But has decided her new mom is nice.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:57:51am |
re: #613 legalpad
No. These guys are incurable. My wife's ex beat her and she filed after a few months of marriage.
People can learn to stop DV but, it takes a long time and a lot of work.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:58:27am |
re: #653 realwest
Huh, ya mean: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
Ringo doesn't know the proper way to hold his drumsticks. For a matter of fact, I don't think he really knows much about the drumming at all.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:58:47am |
re: #616 x-wing
I must've missed that earlier. The guy actually spent time in the slammer for it? Yeah, it was only a slap..riiight.
Any abusive contact in this state means an arrest will follow.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:59:20am |
Oops. I left to get The Kid ready for church. I didn't know I'd get 50 posts behind.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:09am |
re: #659 newsjunkie_ky
Thank you, my avatar is of my little Meggie, she recently passed away. I just adopted a rescue dog yesterday. So far so good, but she is still a little timid. But has decided her new mom is nice.
What is is? Name? Dogs only need three things... food, (scratch my belly...) sleep, (scratch my belly...) and you (scratch my belly...).
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:28am |
re: #659 newsjunkie_ky
Thank you, my avatar is of my little Meggie, she recently passed away. I just adopted a rescue dog yesterday. So far so good, but she is still a little timid. But has decided her new mom is nice.
Is it a mutt like BHO? ;>}
/don't see to many toy dogs in the pound
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:36am |
re: #637 newsjunkie_ky
Good morning {news}! I received and replied to your e-mail so when ya get a chance you might want to check!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:52am |
re: #665 MandyManners
Yeah, the morning crowd is in and the pace has picked up fairly well too.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:55am |
re: #620 BlueCanuck
Nothing as nasty as an adrenaline crash. Hate them myself. Worse then drinking a pot of coffee. An adrenaline rush will keep me wired for hours.
/used to get them from dealing with an ex-guard.
When I useta' get flash-backs and go into panic attacks, I would go to sleep after my body realigned itself and the adrenaline left.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:02:26am |
re: #646 BBev
Gah, I'm so sorry to hear that - can you drop me an e-mail my friend?
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:02:57am |
re: #661 Bumr50
I want Andre to be the man every game.
I am warming up to hiring Mike Leach as the head coach :)
/return of the greatest show on turf
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:03:38am |
re: #651 newsjunkie_ky
You're quite welcome! All of the lyrics are great and so evocative - they really sorta paint a picture for you.
Enjoy!
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:03:56am |
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yochanan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:04:45am |
i like the interesting photo's with the song. small town life is diffrent from what i am used to but one of my son's wife is from a small town in neb.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:04:53am |
re: #628 BlueCanuck
You never know these days. Worked with a guy that went to court for "hitting" his wife. What happened was she rushed him and he deflected her onto the bed. (what he said). Ex-girlfriend charged her former boyfriend with assault. Found out the hard way that she was the abusive one. Me being raised right and fairly smart lit out for the hills the minute I got the chance.
re: #629 tappin52
I count myself lucky to have married a guy who was taught that men don't hit women. Period. We taught our sons the same. But everywhere you look today the girls are pretty in-your-face and bitchy and not at all afraid of throwing the first punch. I'm glad mine are grown.
I've never seen reliable numbers on the prevalence of DV committed by women but, I bet they're not small.
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:06:00am |
re: #669 BlueCanuck
Everyone is looking for consolation away from the Sunday paper and the 24x7 adulation of "The One" (save for the plotting whack jobs that like drawing law enforcement attention to themselves -- there are better ways to oppose him folks).
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:07:09am |
re: #669 BlueCanuck
Yeah, the morning crowd is in and the pace has picked up fairly well too.
Good thing I have fast fingers.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:07:11am |
re: #676 MandyManners
Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:07:38am |
re: #663 Walter L. Newton
Well frankly Walter, with John, Paul and occasionally George doing the writing, all Ringo had to do was not get in the way and make sure he kept the beat!
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:08:12am |
re: #681 realwest
Futz, hit post comment by mistake!
How are you Walter?
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:10:27am |
re: #666 Walter L. Newton
What is is? Name? Dogs only need three things... food, (scratch my belly...) sleep, (scratch my belly...) and you (scratch my belly...).
Hi Walter. She is a shit tzu mix, about a year old. Came from a 'hoarder' that had 70 dogs. Poor little thing had already had a litter of pups at her age. Kept in a cage most of her life. She was spayed on Thursday. Now a new wrinkle, someone has contacted the foster mom and claims that she is their dog that they lost last year. She will investigate their claims.
My new little girl is a real cutied and very sweet and really timid. She warmed up quickly though and slept in my lap most of the evening while I loved on her. She actually slept with me and didn't make a peep. She likes to stay very close to me which is understandable.
How are you doing? We had a little snow last night and it is quite chilling.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:11:32am |
re: #681 realwest
Well frankly Walter, with John, Paul and occasionally George doing the writing, all Ringo had to do was not get in the way and make sure he kept the beat!
Ringo was always in the pocket..
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:00am |
re: #685 HoosierHoops
I enjoyed his lead singing in 'with a little help from my friends'
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:08am |
re: #662 MandyManners
People can learn to stop DV but, it takes a long time and a lot of work.
I'm sure there are cases, but the cost can be more than time and work. Children suffer, learn to imitate or tolerate. Many of them just bury it when people they cannot bully are around. Some of the victims defend and enable the perpetrators by protecting them from the consequences of their actions. (i.e. police or just other men wo don't tolerate it.)
Then there are the cases that escalate into lethal force.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:12am |
re: #680 BlueCanuck
Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.
There's no way I would even think about attending one of those. If I was getting smacked around by a women (and I wasn't asking her to do it), I'd be out the door.
/hope that wasn't TMI ;>}
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:17am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:14:52am |
re: #682 realwest
Futz, hit post comment by mistake!
How are you Walter?
Ok. I wish our weather would get stable. It's so typical around this time of year to have some days close to freezing and a few days later pushing into the high 60's. Once it starts getting cold, I like it to stay that way.
Things are settled down, now that we got through the 2 week cross over between one show and our new show (Xmas show), a local concert, and then the Roger McGuinn concert for two nights and the opening night reception (I hate food in the theatre).
So, now into a normal routine, 3 shows a week, then in Dec. 4 and 5 shows a week (depending on some group sales) and then we close it down for ONE WEEK before we get busy again. Gee, a one week vacation.
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:15:06am |
re: #678 Bumr50
Bailey is in fact a SHE.
like Bailey Quarters of WKRP. I have a cat named Bailey and she is a she and was named after the character.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:16:18am |
re: #690 newsjunkie_ky
Definitely! The proprietors are friends of the girlfriends parents through their work in the Salvation Army. We belong to the treat of the month club. Bailey loves em'.
The girl knows more than I do about it.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:16:35am |
re: #680 BlueCanuck
Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.
It's still hard--if not impossible--for a man to get help from a DV shelter, including counselling.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:16:38am |
re: #687 heidi586
I enjoyed his lead singing in 'with a little help from my friends'
Love the beatles.. I have 4 dolls of them from 1969 in the original box. never been opened..And I have one gold record of theirs on the wall..
the dolls will go on eBay some day
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:17:11am |
re: #680 BlueCanuck
Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.
You are right about guys not wanting to admit and it happening more than is reported. (not from personal experience but if anyone laid a finger on me they would pull back a stub).
There was a funny 'King of Queens' episode about Doug joining a support group, mainly for the food.
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:17:46am |
re: #98 Fenway_Nation
Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.
However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?
Finally, now I know what Bacardi is good for
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:17:49am |
re: #683 newsjunkie_ky
Hi Walter. She is a shit tzu mix, about a year old. Came from a 'hoarder' that had 70 dogs. Poor little thing had already had a litter of pups at her age. Kept in a cage most of her life. She was spayed on Thursday. Now a new wrinkle, someone has contacted the foster mom and claims that she is their dog that they lost last year. She will investigate their claims.
My new little girl is a real cutied and very sweet and really timid. She warmed up quickly though and slept in my lap most of the evening while I loved on her. She actually slept with me and didn't make a peep. She likes to stay very close to me which is understandable.
How are you doing? We had a little snow last night and it is quite chilling.
Neat. I love Shitzu's. The last wife and I had one. Sad story, but after she asked me to leave, she was spending all her money aon booze, and the utility company shut her off for two months over the winter. The Shitzu and 2 other dogs died becuase of getting sick from the cold (and probably not being well taken care of period).
I can't have 4 legged critters in this small apartment. Just my parrot Maisey.
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:19:57am |
re: #695 HoosierHoops
I love the Beatles music...as long as I have them and U2 on my Zune I'd be happy.
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yochanan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:19:58am |
a cat has me i woulder what she would think a parrot is good for?
i suspect lunch.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:26am |
re: #688 legalpad
I'm sure there are cases, but the cost can be more than time and work. Children suffer, learn to imitate or tolerate. Many of them just bury it when people they cannot bully are around. Some of the victims defend and enable the perpetrators by protecting them from the consequences of their actions. (i.e. police or just other men wo don't tolerate it.)
Then there are the cases that escalate into lethal force.
When a woman depends on her husband's check to pay the bills, there's a huge disincentive to see him go to jail. One way to get around it would be emergency court orders that give the woman 1/2 of the man's pay for mortgage/utilities/food.
And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:30am |
re: #697 bbuddha
I don't know where you're from, but I don't drink anymore and am sick of the mojito marketing.
Mojito this, mojito that. The uppity types just seem to like to say the word, because it's new and all.
I guess I kind of went off there...sorry.
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:47am |
re: #695 HoosierHoops
I forgot to ask...where did you get a gold record?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:21:22am |
re: #689 x-wing
There's no way I would even think about attending one of those. If I was getting smacked around by a women (and I wasn't asking her to do it), I'd be out the door.
/hope that wasn't TMI ;>}
There are men who don't have such sound boundaries as yours.
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Bloodnok Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:21:46am |
re: #695 HoosierHoops
Love the beatles.. I have 4 dolls of them from 1969 in the original box. never been opened..And I have one gold record of theirs on the wall..
the dolls will go on eBay some day
How cool. Which record is it?
(My prized Beatles possession is an original Please Please Me LP on the Parlophone label found at a Daytona flea market for 50 cents. Album cover is in immaculate shape.)
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:21:50am |
re: #698 Walter L. Newton
I enjoy when you write about Maisey.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:22:39am |
re: #699 heidi586
I love the Beatles music...as long as I have them and U2 on my Zune I'd be happy.
I also liked the soundtrack from the movie ' I am Sam' all beatles music done by different artist..
just freggin awesome versions.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:22:44am |
re: #692 newsjunkie_ky
like Bailey Quarters of WKRP. I have a cat named Bailey and she is a she and was named after the character.
I always thought she was hotter than Jennifer.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:23:00am |
re: #699 heidi586
I have mostly Pink Floyd (481 songs) and Grateful Dead (188 songs).
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:23:43am |
My prized Beatle possession is a framed blow-up of the news clip concerning Mr. Kite. It's super gear.
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:23:48am |
re: #704 Bumr50
Zune is so much nicer then IPod. At least for what I use it for.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:24:09am |
re: #709 HoosierHoops
Does that have the "Across the Universe" by Fiona Apple?
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:24:23am |
re: #683 newsjunkie_ky Uh, received and replied to your e-mail.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:24:36am |
re: #705 heidi586
I forgot to ask...where did you get a gold record?
The Gold Album of 'I'll follow the Sun' was given to me by a friend...
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:25:37am |
re: #710 MandyManners
I always thought she was hotter than Jennifer.
Me, too. Jennifer was fluff, hair and makeup (ok she was/is built like a brickhouse), Bailey was gorgeous and built, but they played up Jennie-poo and underplayed Bailey.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:26:17am |
re: #660 taxfreekiller
any one who thinks Americans will not work is nuts
Americans will not work for slave wages, yet the ones in D.C. are
going to vote 20 million Mexican wage slaves legal and let them
go after your jobs, your very pay checks you just now can break even with,
. . ..
TFK - I agree with you that "Americans will work".
But an American living in a high-cost and high-wage area will not, or better said, cannot for their own sakes, take work in a low-cost and low-wage area.
When a Mc'Donalds is offering employment bonuses of a couple thou for people to work the counter and they still cannot hire enough people - then somebody somewhere is not wanting to work.
And where there is a shortage of workers, it will be filled. Contractors and employers here in La. adhere to the same wage and hour laws that exist everywhere. But for some folks in other areas, the wages aren't sufficient for cost of living where they live.
Here in La, we had such an influx of Mexicans after Katrina. The Mexicans had not been here before. Now they're here and not leaving, and the gov't is not forcing illegals to leave.
Argh!
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:26:25am |
re: #686 Bumr50
And probably has a net worth of more than all of us out here combined +! LOL!
What a great gig he had going for himself.
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Bloodnok Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:26:29am |
re: #712 Sharmuta
My prized Beatle possession is a framed blow-up of the news clip concerning Mr. Kite. It's super gear.
The circus poster? coool.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:03am |
re: #708 newsjunkie_ky
I enjoy when you write about Maisey.
Thanks. Ok, this may seem weird, but it's the truth. I have a new girlfriend and Maisey is VERY jealous of her. So, they other night, Sylvia comes into the apartment, and Maisey starts prancing around one of her perch's squawking at Sylvia.
Then Maisey climbs on to the top of the cage, hanging upside down, showing her "behind" to Sylvia.
Yes, Maisey was "presenting" herself to Sylvia, sort of showing Sylvia what belongs to "Walter." Parrots are very one person birds, and if the person is of the opposite sex, it's even more of a bond.
Maisey is always bending over "presenting" herself to me, and making little "gurgling" noises. Spooky.
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ryannon Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:30am |
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:33am |
re: #715 realwest
Good morning real. Just sent you an email, today does not work out for my schedule, Church and music stuff all day. I sent you some alternatives in the email.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:48am |
re: #714 Bumr50
Does that have the "Across the Universe" by Fiona Apple?
I think.. When I fire up the Monster drive i'll check..
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:53am |
Actually i can think of 1 time Domestic is justified. In the Army i had a buddy whose wife was very iolent chucked stuff at him all the time on day he decided enough tryed to leave she wouldn't let him posted infront of door and refused to move. He picked her up took their son and went to the Base med Center for stitches while there the MP's showed up and arrested him because the wife called domestic and a neighbor had seen him pick her up to leave. He was given non judicial punishment lost a paygrade and 1/2 month pay for 2 months due to the domestic. I wouldn't have called it as suck especially since he required 8 stiches from not dodging fast enough but courts it was decided a big strong (5'5 140lb little dude) soldier had no justification to lay his hands on a woman no matter the circumstance.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:28:11am |
I remember seeing a video a while back with Prince performing the guitar solo from "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" on a stage with Tom Petty and others. I'm not sure if it was a Hard Rock thing or an R & R HOF induction but he absolutely knocked it out of the park.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:28:29am |
re: #691 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter, how many folks does your theater hold - either sitting or standing (as at a rock concert)? I wouldn't think McGuinn would be all that big a draw, myself.
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Fearless Fred Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:29:23am |
re: #660 taxfreekiller
Then I'm nuts. If I understand you correctly.
Americans (at this moment - these things are always in a state of flux) aren't interested in competing for certain jobs which Mexicans are happy to take (at the same pay). That's an easily observed fact -- (I can take you around and show you all over right here where I live). Those dollars converted to Pesos come right back to the US ... they're no good in Mexico. It all works out. Without the Mexican laborer here in the US, the cost of that product or service he contributed to simply goes up. The American consumer simply buys less of the American good or service or product ... sorry -- don't know the proper economic terms. (Less wealth is created.) The Mexican stays home - where there is no, well - less - opportunity, and less is created here as well. We are each poorer - absolutely. Law of comparative advantage ? ... isn't that the principle? There are of course other wonderful reasons for (arguments for) greater restrictions and or documentation of entry ... but they're not about creating wealth. Your use of the term 'wage slave' gives away your lack of familiarity with capitalism and lack of appreciation for free markets and liberty to freely contract and create wealth. You're using Marxist terminology I think, which is awkward when dealing with non-Marxist concepts.
--Federico ... Nuts
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:29:35am |
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:29:42am |
re: #706 MandyManners
So sad but true. And the women that feel that they "asked for it". I've talked to more than one that have said that. I almost want to cry and also slap them up-side the head. I consider myslef a nice guy and see all these women with losers, again and again. I don't understand it. You do have a good point with the money part of it, that's definitly a tough call when it's the street or a black eye. I wish I had the answer.
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:19am |
re: #709 HoosierHoops
I don't think I have ever paid any attention to the soundtrack - that is from the movie with Sean Penn, right?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:24am |
re: #719 newsjunkie_ky
Me, too. Jennifer was fluff, hair and makeup (ok she was/is built like a brickhouse), Bailey was gorgeous and built, but they played up Jennie-poo and underplayed Bailey.
It's the "blonde" thing.
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:58am |
re: #701 MandyManners
When a woman depends on her husband's check to pay the bills, there's a huge disincentive to see him go to jail. One way to get around it would be emergency court orders that give the woman 1/2 of the man's pay for mortgage/utilities/food.
And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them.
In the milder cases, just a few good men in a "support group" - be it family, church, or just friends, can protect the victim, make sure the money is properly distributed.
In the extreme cases, the courts are necessary - but there is no substitute for readiness in lethal self-defense.
In the cases where the women defend and lie for their abusers, little can be done, except in rare cases.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:58am |
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:58am |
Hitting a woman for any reason other than shes coming at ya with a knife is a strict nono tho.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:31:33am |
re: #733 MandyManners
Because I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to that. It's one thing live, but don't record it. I'm okay with musical renditions, I guess, though I could live without hearing "Yesterday" as muzac for the bajillionth time.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:32:11am |
re: #729 rancher
Actually i can think of 1 time Domestic is justified. In the Army i had a buddy whose wife was very iolent chucked stuff at him all the time on day he decided enough tryed to leave she wouldn't let him posted infront of door and refused to move. He picked her up took their son and went to the Base med Center for stitches while there the MP's showed up and arrested him because the wife called domestic and a neighbor had seen him pick her up to leave. He was given non judicial punishment lost a paygrade and 1/2 month pay for 2 months due to the domestic. I wouldn't have called it as suck especially since he required 8 stiches from not dodging fast enough but courts it was decided a big strong (5'5 140lb little dude) soldier had no justification to lay his hands on a woman no matter the circumstance.
That's a total perversion of justice.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:32:54am |
I had the original Sgt. Pepper album with the inserts.
Unfortuantely my sister stole it.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:32:54am |
re: #701 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy. "And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them." Would that also include the women who, apparently think "He woudn't hit me or whatever if he didn't really, truly love me?" I mean I've read about Tina Turner and Ike and Whitney Houston and all and both Tina and Whitney sorta said the same thing "It's just his way of showing that he cares about me". Always left me wondering what the hell he'd do if he didn't love 'em but still...?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:24am |
re: #734 x-wing
So sad but true. And the women that feel that they "asked for it". I've talked to more than one that have said that. I almost want to cry and also slap them up-side the head. I consider myslef a nice guy and see all these women with losers, again and again. I don't understand it. You do have a good point with the money part of it, that's definitly a tough call when it's the street or a black eye. I wish I had the answer.
I wish the courts could order the victims into DV counselling but, they can't.
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:35am |
OK. you might think this weird, but Prince is the ONLY dude that can wear make-up and heels and still be sexy.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:42am |
re: #725 ryannon
That is an excellent cover, when coupled with the video.
I was reaching with the "best Dylan cover ever" line.
The Band has several that are probably as good.
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:51am |
re: #724 Walter L. Newton
LOL! I can see it now, Maisey flying over and pooping on Sylvia's head, squawking, 'he's mine, he's mine'.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:58am |
re: #746 bellamags
OK. you might think this weird, but Prince is the ONLY dude that can wear make-up and heels and still be sexy.
HA!
I don't think it's weird. I'm with ya on that one.
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Tigger2005 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:34:34am |
This was supposed to be much longer. Coleridge began writing it after waking from a dream, was interrupted by an insurance salesman, and by the time he got rid of him, his muse was long gone.
re: #81 pat
In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.
So twice five miles of fertile ground
With walls and towers were girdled round:
And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree;
And here were forests ancient as the hills,
Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.But oh! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover!
A savage place! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon lover!
And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
A mighty fountain momently was forced:
Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail:
And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
It flung up momently the sacred river.
Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean:
And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
Ancestral voices prophesying war!The shadow of the dome of pleasure
Floated midway on the waves;
Where was heard the mingled measure
From the fountain and the caves.
It was a miracle of rare device,
A sunny pleasure dome with caves of ice!A damsel with a dulcimer
In a vision once I saw:
It was an Abyssinian maid,
And on her dulcimer she played,
Singing of Mount Abora.
Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:34:47am |
re: #743 Spare O'Lake
I know a Beatle Fan with a copy of the original album with cover and back pictures on the vinyl.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:34:53am |
re: #738 legalpad
In the milder cases, just a few good men in a "support group" - be it family, church, or just friends, can protect the victim, make sure the money is properly distributed.
In the extreme cases, the courts are necessary - but there is no substitute for readiness in lethal self-defense.
In the cases where the women defend and lie for their abusers, little can be done, except in rare cases.
When this happens, courts can refuse to allow the victim to withdraw her complaint. Also, if there are kids involved, courts can remove them from both parents.
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:05am |
re: #749 reine.de.tout
HA!
I don't think it's weird. I'm with ya on that one.
Sweet. I am glad you agree : D and he is a complete genius with a guitar. men with talent really do it for me. : )
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:31am |
Perversion of justice yes but its the way a lot of the courts see things nowadays. On the plus side the stitches and testimony of their 5 year old did get him custody and out of alimony 2 weeks later when he filed for divorce so he considered teh loss of pay and rank worth it in the end.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:36am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:50am |
re: #731 realwest
Hey Walter, how many folks does your theater hold - either sitting or standing (as at a rock concert)? I wouldn't think McGuinn would be all that big a draw, myself.
We managed 136 seats (adding a few extra catering chairs) for each show and we were sold out. Hell, we could have had two more shows and sold them out.
He regularly sells out 1-2 thousand seat venues. We were the start of his new tour, and he likes small venues to try out his new shows. And in general, he likes small intimate shows. He varies his booking's between large rooms and places like ours.
And yes, he does draw. The Byrds are credited with developing 3 styles of music in their short career. Folk-rock, country-rock and psychedelic (Eight Miles High).
And he's in the Rock and Roll hall of fame.
And shameless self-promotion... some pics.
Image: McGuinn_concert_081109_118.jpg
Image: McGuinn_concert_081109_152.jpg
Image: McGuinn_concert_081109_179.jpg
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:36:08am |
re: #740 rancher
Hitting a woman for any reason other than shes coming at ya with a knife is a strict nono tho.
Why let someone with a knife get close enough to make contact?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:36:58am |
re: #741 Sharmuta
Because I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to that. It's one thing live, but don't record it. I'm okay with musical renditions, I guess, though I could live without hearing "Yesterday" as muzac for the bajillionth time.
Oh, goodness. I don't know what I was thinking. Well, yes I do. I was thinking about album covers.
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:15am |
re: #737 MandyManners
It's the "blonde" thing.
Yep. Don't understand that. And she was definately a bottle blonde but that doesn't seem to matter.
I used to be a redhead.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:15am |
re: #746 bellamags
OK. you might think this weird, but Prince is the ONLY dude that can wear make-up and heels and still be sexy.
I thought Purple Rain was a good movie...
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:20am |
re: #751 Sharmuta
I know a Beatle Fan with a copy of the original album with cover and back pictures on the vinyl.
She also stole my White Album with the insert with all the words on it.
Boy I wish I still had those.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:23am |
re: #716 HoosierHoops
Huh, I thought "I'll Follow The Sun" was by Gerry and the Pacemakers, no?!
WARNING: could be a senior moment here!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:51am |
re: #744 realwest
Good morning Mandy. "And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them." Would that also include the women who, apparently think "He woudn't hit me or whatever if he didn't really, truly love me?" I mean I've read about Tina Turner and Ike and Whitney Houston and all and both Tina and Whitney sorta said the same thing "It's just his way of showing that he cares about me". Always left me wondering what the hell he'd do if he didn't love 'em but still...?
I bet those women--and, their abusers--were raised in atmospheres where DV happened.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:38:10am |
For some people any attention even negative is good. There are a number of women I've met whose parents ignored em til something was wrong then whooped on em these same women often grow up and find the same thing in there spouses boyfriends etc and perpetuate a cycle. I really for bad for em but it's there choice and you can't just force em to abandon hte relationship.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:38:37am |
re: #748 newsjunkie_ky
LOL! I can see it now, Maisey flying over and pooping on Sylvia's head, squawking, 'he's mine, he's mine'.
I may have posted this a while back, but another girlfriend, a few years ago, was sitting on my couch with me, watching a movie, and Maisey was on top of her cage. She climbed down to the floor, waddled across he floor to my girlfriend and BIT here on her toe.
(Ok, I'll admit it, I laughed till it hurt)
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:38:51am |
re: #754 rancher
Perversion of justice yes but its the way a lot of the courts see things nowadays. On the plus side the stitches and testimony of their 5 year old did get him custody and out of alimony 2 weeks later when he filed for divorce so he considered teh loss of pay and rank worth it in the end.
I'd say it was well worth it.
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:04am |
re: #747 Bumr50
That is an excellent cover, when coupled with the video.
I was reaching with the "best Dylan cover ever" line.
The Band has several that are probably as good.
I love The Band.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:26am |
re: #759 newsjunkie_ky
Yep. Don't understand that. And she was definately a bottle blonde but that doesn't seem to matter.
I used to be a redhead.
I just don't get the "blonde thing".
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ryannon Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:46am |
re: #724 Walter L. Newton
Thanks. Ok, this may seem weird, but it's the truth. I have a new girlfriend and Maisey is VERY jealous of her. So, they other night, Sylvia comes into the apartment, and Maisey starts prancing around one of her perch's squawking at Sylvia.
Then Maisey climbs on to the top of the cage, hanging upside down, showing her "behind" to Sylvia.
Yes, Maisey was "presenting" herself to Sylvia, sort of showing Sylvia what belongs to "Walter." Parrots are very one person birds, and if the person is of the opposite sex, it's even more of a bond.
Maisey is always bending over "presenting" herself to me, and making little "gurgling" noises. Spooky.
Walter, I suspected there was a deeper bond between us...but I'm a bit embarassed to admit it here...it has to do with birds...mine's not a parrot, but things have gotten to the point where he insists on sleeping with me. He'll also come into the bed, burrow under the blankets and tap me every so lightly with his beak until I start petting him. These cuddle-sessions can go on for a very long time. He' also been known to jump into the tub while I'm taking a bath and take one with with me. I could go on, but I won't.
Except to say that I'm a guy as well, and it doesn't seem to discourage him at all.
Good luck with yours, my friend.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:52am |
re: #762 realwest
Huh, I thought "I'll Follow The Sun" was by Gerry and the Pacemakers, no?!
WARNING: could be a senior moment here!
At least you can still remember that you can't remember! LOL.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:58am |
re: #726 3 wood
Received and replied my friend - hope you and yours are doing well!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:16am |
re: #764 rancher
For some people any attention even negative is good. There are a number of women I've met whose parents ignored em til something was wrong then whooped on em these same women often grow up and find the same thing in there spouses boyfriends etc and perpetuate a cycle. I really for bad for em but it's there choice and you can't just force em to abandon hte relationship.
No but, you can take any kids away.
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:19am |
re: #735 bellamags
Thanks!
I always put him at the top of my list of underappreciated guitarists. Followed by Joe Walsh.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:20am |
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Bloodnok Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:34am |
When I was a kid I probably destroyed 4 or 5 original copies of Yesterday and Today looking for the elusive Butcher Cover.. I should have been more careful.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:38am |
re: #770 MandyManners
I just don't get the "blonde thing".
I don't either.
but blonde seems to be considered "sexier"
unless you're, say, Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:47am |
re: #762 realwest
Huh, I thought "I'll Follow The Sun" was by Gerry and the Pacemakers, no?!
WARNING: could be a senior moment here!
ohhh RW...
yup..senior moment old man..LOL
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:49am |
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:15am |
re: #760 HoosierHoops
I thought Purple Rain was a good movie...
When that movie came out I was not allowed to watch it. I was "too young" (My parents were strict when it came to what I watched). So, when it came out on HBO, I went to a friends house and watched it. It was an event. I will never forget that.
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samhein Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:31am |
I don't know if this has been posted here already, since I have been unable to keep up as of late. If not, this is a copy of the Obama administration's questionnaire that I found online:
[Link: www.isra-pvf.com...]
If it has already made the rounds here, sorry for the repeat. :)
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:32am |
re: #780 reine.de.tout
I don't either.
but blonde seems to be considered "sexier"
unless you're, say, Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry
Or, Marge Simpson.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:32am |
The cool thing about "senior moments" is that everything old is new again!
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:11am |
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:11am |
re: #768 newsjunkie_ky
I'm gonna buy a copy of The Last Waltz as soon as I'm in Borders and remember.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:35am |
Aye removing the kids if there are any is always good in those situations i was talking more about feeling concern for the women who didn't share my concern for their own wellbeing.
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:38am |
re: #760 HoosierHoops
I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school...it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:08am |
re: #765 Walter L. Newton
I may have posted this a while back, but another girlfriend, a few years ago, was sitting on my couch with me, watching a movie, and Maisey was on top of her cage. She climbed down to the floor, waddled across he floor to my girlfriend and BIT here on her toe.
(Ok, I'll admit it, I laughed till it hurt)
ROFLMAO!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:08am |
re: #764 rancher
For some people any attention even negative is good. There are a number of women I've met whose parents ignored em til something was wrong then whooped on em. These same women often grow up and find the same thing in there spouses boyfriends etc and perpetuate a cycle. I feel really for bad for em but it's their choice and you can't just force em to abandon the relationship.
Very true. Theodore Dalrymple has written about that in City Journal.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:35am |
re: #771 ryannon
Walter, I suspected there was a deeper bond between us...but I'm a bit embarassed to admit it here...it has to do with birds...mine's not a parrot, but things have gotten to the point where he insists on sleeping with me. He'll also come into the bed, burrow under the blankets and tap me every so lightly with his beak until I start petting him. These cuddle-sessions can go on for a very long time. He' also been known to jump into the tub while I'm taking a bath and take one with with me. I could go on, but I won't.
Except to say that I'm a guy as well, and it doesn't seem to discourage him at all.
Good luck with yours, my friend.
No, your story is not strange at all. What kind of bird? Parrots are the most domesticated of all birds, but I have seen other birds on occasion get really "friendly" with their human protectors.
You kind of story happens all the time in the "parrot world."
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:52am |
re: #776 Bumr50
Thanks!
I always put him at the top of my list of underappreciated guitarists. Followed by Joe Walsh.
I agree with you. He is one of the best (and under-appreciated) IMO. He does what he wants to do with his music, image and personal life and he never went "mainstream".
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:44:05am |
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Bumr50 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:02am |
A good day to all! Gonna go spend time with loved ones ! BBL!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:34am |
re: #797 rancher
Duh blondes are dumb and the dumber the better ///
Mandy, your turn, take over here...
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:51am |
re: #791 heidi586
I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school...it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!
that's really neat.
I was in Minn. last year for a week..Really like that city..good coffee too.
We partied like it was like 1999.
/
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:59am |
re: #790 rancher
Aye removing the kids if there are any is always good in those situations i was talking more about feeling concern for the women who didn't share my concern for their own wellbeing.
DV is insidious so, sometimes the concern has to be taken off the adult victim and placed on the kids in order to stop the inter-generational cycle.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:10am |
re: #796 newsjunkie_ky
Me neither. Guys what is it all about?
I like girls with red hair the best so don't ask me.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:13am |
re: #799 rancher
You should sign your nic at the end of every post. Walter used to do that and he's Walter!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:41am |
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:48am |
Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:14am |
re: #791 heidi586
I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school...it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!
That would have been so cool. Did you ever see anything?
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:49am |
re: #789 Bumr50
I'm gonna buy a copy of The Last Waltz as soon as I'm in Borders and remember.
Do, saw it in the theatre and my kids got me a copy of the DVD last year for Christmas.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:53am |
Lol Sharm i hate signing things tho hopefully ill still be awake when charles opens registration tonight if he does.
Rustler
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:59am |
re: #770 MandyManners
Wait a minute...newsjunkie WAS a redhead? WTH. Why change from a redhead?
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:06am |
re: #732 Fearless Fred
Those dollars converted to Pesos come right back to the US ... they're no good in Mexico.
I'm not going to speak for tfk but there is quite a bit of money going back to Mexico to pay for family member basics that never comes back to the U.S. The Mexican Government even tracks it and expresses a great deal of concern when there is a drop.
Mexicans are over here because of the state of affairs of their own country. The question in large part is whether having a lax attitude about illegal immigration is actually enabling a continuation and expansion of this. Please see the Young Thomas Sowell video in the "Best Links" section up at the top to get a flavor of what I am thinking.
In my mind this is a very complex situation. The Houston area is a cheap place to live in part because of illegal Mexican labor but understanding ALL of the cost is not the easiest thing to do.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:44am |
re: #805 Sharmuta
You should sign your nic at the end of every post. Walter used to do that and he's Walter!
Hi. Yes, but I did it because I am a shameless self-promoter. (LOL at myself).
I still do it off and on, but only when I have commented on something where my location adds meaning to what I have said. Such as "it's freezing this morning" or something like that.
Walter in Golden, Co.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:45am |
Last update - 09:12 16/11/2008
U.S. study urges Obama to press Israel over nuclear program
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Leftist Jews here in the USA will be so pleased!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:47am |
re: #807 rancher
Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.
Marilyn Monroe? Betty Grable? Jane Mansfield? They predate MTV by a long shot. (Despite Madonna's attempt to paint herself as Marilyn in that earlier video.)
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:54am |
re: #771 ryannon
What the hell are you guys talking about?!/
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:59am |
re: #807 rancher
Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.
80's ahhh
the era of the big hair...
like dorian..
morning dorian...Speaking of Prince..How's that Red Corvette Dorian?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:09am |
re: #802 MandyManners
DV is insidious so, sometimes the concern has to be taken off the adult victim and placed on the kids in order to stop the inter-generational cycle.
Agreed. The problem is the placement of said children afterwards. Often they do not end up in a good situation but just get bounced around instead.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:12am |
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:29am |
The housing start numbers are very low:
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Few observers have ever seen anything like the economic data that will be released in the coming week, with the consumer price index and housing starts each expected to breach records dating back to the late 1940s.
With the global economy descending into a nasty recession, the October data could send a chill down the spine of policymakers, who are pulling out all the tricks in their tool kit to prevent a wider meltdown.
As everyone knows, this downturn began in the housing sector, with a global credit bubble inflating U.S. home prices, and homebuilders responding with a frenzy of construction. Now that the bubble has collapsed, everyone is looking to housing for any sign that the worst may be over.
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said last week that "market turmoil will not abate until the biggest part of the housing correction is behind us."
It's not behind us yet.
And the housing situation will stabilize when the employment situation stabilizes. Which willnot be for a while yet:
Cymer plans to cut 85, or 8%, of worldwide jobs
Fidelity to lay off 1,700 employees in early 2009: WSJ
And so forth...
For those with money still in the stock market, I have the following advice:
Take a very long term view of the market now, and understand that the market is going to be damn bad for a while yet. Maybe a year or two until it tuns around.
But that also makes it a buying opportunity, and there are very under priced stocks out there now. You can set yourself up to make a whole lot of money down the road by picking up some of these bargains now and being patient.
We may not see a buying opportunity like this for 20 years.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:32am |
re: #735 bellamags
SWEET! I don't recognize the picker doing the lead, but that was Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne (of ELO) and someone else from the Traveling Willburys and right next to Tom is George Harrison's song - very young, playing accoustic guitar and singing - sort of!
Great video, THANK YOU!
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:49am |
Aye but in the monroe years it wasn't really about the hair it was the legs : P
Rustler
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:51am |
re: #801 HoosierHoops
It is a nice area..you have all the 'big city' extras with a small town friendliness. We now live about 2 1/2 hours north/east of the cities so we use it for the theater, concerts, and shopping...but go back home to our farm.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:53am |
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:54am |
re: #807 rancher
Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.
You know I think you are right. Guys that are in their late 30's to late 40's seem to like that voluptuous, stiletto heel, tight jeans and big hair thing (totally 1980's retro look) The younger guys seem to prefer the waify light skinned small girl thing and if you follow music trends it fits.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:25am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:45am |
re: #815 Nevergiveup
Last update - 09:12 16/11/2008
U.S. study urges Obama to press Israel over nuclear program
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Leftist Jews here in the USA will be so pleased!
Toward this goal, the United States should change its relatively new policy of seeking a cutoff treaty that does not include verification. The Bush administration's rejection of the long-standing U.S. policy of requiring verification was a mistake that the incoming administration needs to rectify."
Lunacy stalks humanity.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:50am |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:54am |
re: #807 rancher
Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.
Ah, you must be young if you think MTV was the nexus for "the blond thing." It goes back at least as far as black and white movies. It was easy to identify a woman's hair color if it was blond, where as brunette and black and other dark colors tended to look very much the same.
So, there was a preference to stand out with lighter colored hair.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:02am |
re: #818 Sharmuta
Don't ask me, I have natural red highlights. ;)
/red hair, green eyes and freckles make me . . . *swooon*
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:17am |
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:33am |
re: #823 realwest
SWEET! I don't recognize the picker doing the lead, but that was Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne (of ELO) and someone else from the Traveling Willburys and right next to Tom is George Harrison's song - very young, playing accoustic guitar and singing - sort of!
Great video, THANK YOU!
Your welcome : )
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:33am |
"With redheads its all about the temperment fiery head, fiery temper, fire in the sack." attributed to Richard Carnes old friend with big red head fetish
Rustler
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:59am |
re: #822 3 wood
My son called yesterday (from CA) to tell me he had just read about a migrant strawberry picker who makes $14,000/year and was approved by WaMu for a $700,000+ loan for a house. I mean...seriously!
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:00am |
re: #813 unclassifiable
I'm not going to speak for tfk but there is quite a bit of money going back to Mexico to pay for family member basics that never comes back to the U.S. The Mexican Government even tracks it and expresses a great deal of concern when there is a drop.
Mexicans are over here because of the state of affairs of their own country. The question in large part is whether having a lax attitude about illegal immigration is actually enabling a continuation and expansion of this. Please see the Young Thomas Sowell video in the "Best Links" section up at the top to get a flavor of what I am thinking.
In my mind this is a very complex situation. The Houston area is a cheap place to live in part because of illegal Mexican labor but understanding ALL of the cost is not the easiest thing to do.
Finally, someone other than me talking about how this is a complex situation, no easy fix.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:09am |
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:16am |
re: #818 Sharmuta
It's all brain wiring. No reason will suffice and I will offer none.
Good morning Sharm :)
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:20am |
re: #820 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. The problem is the placement of said children afterwards. Often they do not end up in a good situation but just get bounced around instead.
Maybe they could be placed with extended family but, both the victim and the perp likely learned their roles from those people. Get both into immediate and intensive counselling. It ain't cheap, though, for the tax-payers. However, it's cheaper than not stopping it.
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:31am |
re: #812 x-wing
Wait a minute...newsjunkie WAS a redhead? WTH. Why change from a redhead?
It's called the aging process.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:34am |
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:35am |
re: #809 bellamags
We did see Morris Day and the Time walking in once...that was enough to send us all into a screaming frenzies.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:46am |
re: #819 HoosierHoops
80's ahhh
the era of the big hair...
like dorian..
morning dorian...Speaking of Prince..How's that Red Corvette Dorian?
Let's not speak about my Vette... Still has a cracked windshield and I cant afford to fix it right now. Way to many other bills to pay, like fixing the Camery so it will pass smog, and getting the Vette smog'd...
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:53:09am |
re: #703 Bumr50
I don't know where you're from, but I don't drink anymore and am sick of the mojito marketing.
Mojito this, mojito that. The uppity types just seem to like to say the word, because it's new and all.
I guess I kind of went off there...sorry.
no need for apology...I know what you mean though. many people seem to choose their beverage on whats "hot"
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:53:48am |
"MIXED-STATUS" is how people of "different nationalities" living in the USA are to be called henceforth.
So says the WashPost's Kari Lydersen on P. A-4 in today's TrashPost.
"Mixed-Status" Families Look to Obama...TFK was right. Tomorrow McCain & Obama meet to discuss these Mixed Status Not Americans.
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:54:45am |
re: #837 reine.de.tout
Finally, someone other than me talking about how this is a complex situation, no easy fix.
Why don't we build centers in Mexico that can service the community IN MEXICO? I know we shouldn't in theory, but we are already spending billions. there is no way to turn back now. We can do it cheaper there and employ Mexicans to work in their own communities.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:54:52am |
Ok, off to shower and then back for a moment and then off to the theatre. We got a 2:00 PM matinee. Don't talk about me when I'm gone./
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:54:56am |
re: #845 doriangrey
Let's not speak about my Vette... Still has a cracked windshield and I cant afford to fix it right now. Way to many other bills to pay, like fixing the Camery so it will pass smog, and getting the Vette smog'd...
Well you're in luck!
Obama has a plan for you..
/
//sorry dude
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:03am |
re: #818 Sharmuta
And what's the thing about redheads too, guys?
Cough cough, ummm arnt you a Redhead?
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Truck Monkey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:04am |
re: #791 heidi586
I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school...it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!
I actually tried to serve Prince some legal papers back when he was at his zenith. Impossible to get close to him. I did see and talk to Chick several times though. He scared the crap out of this little old college kid. We eventually had to give the Hennepin County Sheriffs office the papers to serve.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:07am |
re: #816 MandyManners
(Despite Madonna's attempt to paint herself as Marilyn in that earlier video.)
Yeah, her dark armpit hair gave it away.
/barf
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:07am |
re: #841 newsjunkie_ky
It's called the aging process.
:D
How you doing newsjunkie? I was just up there last week...
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:20am |
re: #843 heidi586
We did see Morris Day and the Time walking in once...that was enough to send us all into a screaming frenzies.
AAAHHH "The Time" I would have fainted.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:34am |
re: #756 Walter L. Newton
Huh, didn't realize that, though it could be that I don't much like McGuinn - but love his Rickenbacker guitar! and heard his ego could fill your theater many times over.
And yeah, he's in the R&R Hall of Fame because of the Byrds.
Nice photos, too - you have lost weight (assuming that 's you in the last photo!)
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heidi586 Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:56:07am |
Have a great day all...time to make some biscuits and gravy for the hubby and then I am off to work.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:56:15am |
re: #851 HoosierHoops
Well you're in luck!
Obama has a plan for you..
/
//sorry dude
Yes he does... and that plan is scaring the crap out of me... ;p
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:56:22am |
Morning everyone!
'sup?
/tries to act cool. Unsuccessfully.
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:56:25am |
re: #773 realwest
Received and replied my friend - hope you and yours are doing well!
Doing fine thanks. The back is about 90%. The left sciatica is touchy, I must have really pulled it when I wrenched my back. But I'm close to walking around normal again.
I think you Giants should prevail today.
The Bear are at Green Bay and I think the Packers will win. If Orton starts, the Bears should keep it close. If Grossman starts, the Bears will lose by 21.
I hear from my connections that the entire offense has pretty much given up on Grossman, he was clearly staring down the primary receiver last week, and was even being told about it int he huddle but still kept doing it.
Word I get is if Orton can at least stand up, his team mates will carry him onto the field and run every play form the shotgun so they don't have to play with Grossman at QB.
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Irish Rose Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:56:42am |
Good morning, lizards!
A cold morning with scattered snow showers here along the Lake Michigan shoreline. The snow is expected to continue throughout the day, with some accumulation.
I slept in, and now I'm cozied up to the PC with a strong cup of coffee and a cherry turnover.
How's everyone today?
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:56:49am |
re: #763 MandyManners
Oh absolutely - a "way of life" for them. Real shame, that.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:56:55am |
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:57:00am |
Most of the country prob gonna be tightening belts at least these next 2 years hopefully America will wake up in 2010 thike the did in '94.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:57:03am |
re: #852 doriangrey
I was when Gargamel created me. But Papa Smurf had me go blond when I was converted from the dark side.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:57:04am |
re: #822 3 wood
I've been keeping track of new housing construction in two new subdivisions. That in the middle bracket ($250,000.00 to $400,000.00) has almost ground to a halt. That in the upper bracket ($400,000.00 to $750,000.00 and upward) continues at regular speed.
The units in the former are not sold yet, and one house that was sold is now up for sale again, by the owner. The more expensive houses are all sold, and ground is being broken for others. I don't know what that means.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:57:16am |
re: #848 bellamags
Why don't we build centers in Mexico that can service the community IN MEXICO? I know we shouldn't in theory, but we are already spending billions. there is no way to turn back now. We can do it cheaper there and employ Mexicans to work in their own communities.
I think there are all sorts of possible solutions.
They all MUST include security of our borders first.
You are right. Billions being spent already.
The "turning back" could not be immediate, but we could make it much harder to get here, with stiffer penalties. Too un-PC it seems, right now, to do that.
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:57:30am |
re: #818 Sharmuta
And what's the thing about redheads too, guys?
For those who don't understand, no explanation is possible.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:57:30am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:58:02am |
re: #831 Walter L. Newton
Ah, you must be young if you think MTV was the nexus for "the blond thing." It goes back at least as far as black and white movies. It was easy to identify a woman's hair color if it was blond, where as brunette and black and other dark colors tended to look very much the same.
So, there was a preference to stand out with lighter colored hair.
I had not thought of it that way. Makes sense.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:58:14am |
re: #865 rancher
Most of the country prob gonna be tightening belts at least these next 2 years hopefully America
willcan wake up in 2010 thike the did in '94.
Fixed.
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:58:41am |
re: #828 Spare O'Lake
Me too. I saw them live in an outdoor concert in Toronto around 1970. Opening acts were Edgar Winters and White Heat, and the guy who played the piano and sang his one hit "Do You Know What I Mean".
Thanks. Never got to see them live. Seen just about everyone else I ever wanted to see. Even saw The Byrds and listened to Bob Dylan and Joan Baez rehearse at the Belleview Biltmore in Clearwater, FL. That was sweet.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:58:47am |
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:58:48am |
re: #864 Spare O'Lake
Hey Dorian.
Eating ribs and corn on the cob yet?
Yup, but I have to use super glue to hold my teeth in place... ;p
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:58:56am |
One more hour to go. I hope the rug rats up stairs are a little quieter today. I needs my sleeps.
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:58:56am |
re: #849 Walter L. Newton
Ok, off to shower and then back for a moment and then off to the theatre. We got a 2:00 PM matinee. Don't talk about me when I'm gone./
Don't worry we won't talk about you..
anybody else noticed how Walter has changed since he started paling around with Roger McGuin? It's like now he's too good for us...
It all about yea..me and roger like picking up groupies after the show and cruising around in his limo...
Walter has changed
/LOL
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:59:00am |
One alleged promise on Obama's list had to do with the secret balloting with regard to unions. As of now, workers still have the option of voting in private on whether or not they want a union to represent them. Obama supposedly plans to pay back union leaders for their political support by pushing a bill that removes this right from workers and benefits union bosses. Although I am not in a union, I have been horrified that Obama would remove such a basic right from workers in order to pay back corrupt union bosses. And now I read an article like this one, which shows the UAW boss' utter lack of regard for the auto makers that give his people jobs:
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
I say "screw the UAW" if this is their attitude. There is no way in hell a man like Gettlefinger should be rewarded for his destructive attitude.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:59:07am |
re: #840 MandyManners
Maybe they could be placed with extended family but, both the victim and the perp likely learned their roles from those people. Get both into immediate and intensive counselling. It ain't cheap, though, for the tax-payers. However, it's cheaper than not stopping it.
That might well be the best idea. I have to head to work now (I normally work on Sunday). Talk to you later.
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:59:35am |
re: #860 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
You're here -- cool enough.
Just wait. We will be the new cool as soon as everyone is tired of the current cool.
It's just the tao of coolness.
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:59:39am |
re: #846 bbuddha
no need for apology...I know what you mean though. many people seem to choose their beverage on whats "hot"
* * *
Naw, naw, naw--Mojito this mojito that is a way of saying WELCOME, FIDEL CASTRO to the USA under our next president.
It's a way of saying we forgive Fidel for stealing the Bacardi Family's rum operations, nationalizing other people's property, sending "capitalist" people to gulags or to die in the open ocean as they try to escape. It's a way of saying Janet Reno was right to send Elian Gonzalez back to Fidel's worker's paradise, and Obama & Democrats will drink mojitos to that.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:59:46am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:59:48am |
re: #836 J.D.
My son called yesterday (from CA) to tell me he had just read about a migrant strawberry picker who makes $14,000/year and was approved by WaMu for a $700,000+ loan for a house. I mean...seriously!
I saw a WaMu commercial the other night that extolled its virtues now that Chase has bought it. Free checking, free this, free that.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:00:09am |
re: #871 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Peanut Brittle?
I have never liked Peanut Brittle, not ever... So no...
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:00:16am |
re: #867 MandyManners
The units in the former are not sold yet, and one house that was sold is now up for sale again, by the owner. The more expensive houses are all sold, and ground is being broken for others. I don't know what that means.
It tells me that people with a lot of cash are still moving forward and spending it, but the builders are not building any more "spec" houses in the middle range. And there is such a backlog of empty houses in that range the new construction has stopped.
Look for decreased employment in the trades and construction field for a while, but onthe positive side dropping prices for construction materials.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:00:18am |
re: #778 J.D.
Hi {J.D.} not a whole lot, just chatting - mostly about abusive spousal situations and music (and the occasional weird parrot story!) how are you doing today?!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:00:48am |
re: #842 x-wing
Is that an admission if being blonde? ;>}
/whiter smoke
Nah. I'm 20 shades of brunette naturally.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:01:05am |
re: #881 unclassifiable
You're here -- cool enough.
Just wait. We will be the new cool as soon as everyone is tired of the current cool.
It's just the tao of coolness.
I've been waiting for that to happen since I was a nerd teenager in the 70's.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:01:32am |
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:01:43am |
re: #869 reine.de.tout
I think there are all sorts of possible solutions.
They all MUST include security of our borders first.
You are right. Billions being spent already.
The "turning back" could not be immediate, but we could make it much harder to get here, with stiffer penalties. Too un-PC it seems, right now, to do that.
With the government being so frikin corrupt it will be difficult to do anything. If it was entirely funded by the US, the Mexican government would be more likely to allow it. (it would be at least 1/10th of the cost than doing it here) we could have a Mexican force to patrol the border (with strict US oversight) build some hospitals and other needed infrastructure with an all Mexican work force. We need to give these people a reason to stay there and their own government will never do that. Its easier for them to just have the population migrate North.
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:01:43am |
re: #884 Spare O'Lake
I have to take her out to dinner before I get your stuff back?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:01:43am |
re: #886 doriangrey
I have never liked Peanut Brittle, not ever... So no...
Send me yours, then. Love the stuff during the winter.
/it doesn't love me, tho'.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:01:45am |
re: #841 newsjunkie_ky
It's called the aging process.
/sheepishly finding a hole to climb into.
I've never bought into the whole blonde thing. Since I can remember I was always attracted to black heads and red heads. My first crush was in second grade with a Hawaiin girl and then two older red heads in my town. Blondes are overrated.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:02:01am |
re: #885 MandyManners
I saw a WaMu commercial the other night that extolled its virtues now that Chase has bought it. Free checking, free this, free that.
Don't you just love it when they advertise that stuff as "free"?
But "free" "sells"...
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Ojoe Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:02:09am |
re: #879 _RememberTonyC
Teacher's union is pretty bad too.
Our kids have had some awful teachers, & their union protects them.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:02:26am |
re: #881 unclassifiable
You're here -- cool enough.
Just wait. We will be the new cool as soon as everyone is tired of the current cool.
It's just the tao of coolness.
Speak for yourself... I am and always have been the very definition of COOL... ;p
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:03:15am |
We never should have had the first bailout I said it then and stand by it and this current one is definately not necessary. Trim the fat(unions) and let em restructure without unions bullying the companies. The port Union leader calling for a strike right before Christmas needs to be tossed under Obama's bus with all the other trash.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:03:19am |
re: #771 ryannon
Hum, I think that's really TMI - at least for me! LOL!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:03:26am |
re: #863 realwest
Oh absolutely - a "way of life" for them. Real shame, that.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:03:51am |
re: #898 doriangrey
Speak for yourself... I am and always have been the very definition of COOL... ;p
Still wearing that leather jacket over the t-shirt with the collar flipped up and hair greased back, eh?
Fits with the vette, I shoulda known...
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Truck Monkey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:04:15am |
re: #854 x-wing
Yeah, her dark armpit hair gave it away.
/barf
The carpet didn't match the drapes either.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:04:22am |
re: #888 realwest
Hi {J.D.} not a whole lot, just chatting - mostly about abusive spousal situations and music (and the occasional weird parrot story!) how are you doing today?!
LGF is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you'll get! lol
Doing well...it's a tad on the cool side here. Hope you're doing well?
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:04:24am |
re: #803 doriangrey
Good morning dorian! How are you doing today?
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The Hoopster Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:04:35am |
Well Lizards..It won't be long before a bunch of crazy people will be coming by for the Colts Party..
Wish us luck and I sure had a good time chatting with you all this morning..
I really did drink too much coffee...
Have a great day!
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:04:36am |
re: #883 alegrias
And here I thought they were saying..."I'm a sheeple and willing to drink crap to fit in"
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:04:52am |
re: #848 bellamags
Why don't we build centers in Mexico that can service the community IN MEXICO? I know we shouldn't in theory, but we are already spending billions. there is no way to turn back now. We can do it cheaper there and employ Mexicans to work in their own communities.
* * *
We North Americans cannot reverse
70 years of Socialist Mexican governments.
70 Years of socialism means corruption & crooked labor unions & labor bosses & mafiosos still run the place. Like DETROIT, MICHIGAN. Basketcase states & countries mean there's an exodus of able-bodied, willing workers, not an influx.
East Germany's formerly hardworking Germans became basket cases of dependecy under 50 years of Communism. West Germany had a hard time "fixing" what 50 years of Marxist/Leninist theory created.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:05:43am |
re: #860 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Morning everyone!
'sup?
/tries to act cool. Unsuccessfully.
LOL, how you doin' today. I'm still laughing.
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:04am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:16am |
Although- now that I think of it, U2 did a great version of Help! that I thought was really fitting to the lyrics- slowed it down and it turned out really good.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:18am |
re: #892 bellamags
... We need to give these people a reason to stay there and their own government will never do that. Its easier for them to just have the population migrate North.
Bingo!
It's costing us big bucks anyhow.
Instead of making it attractive to come here, give them a reason to stay there.
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Ojoe Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:19am |
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:20am |
re: #895 x-wing
I've never bought into the whole blonde thing. Since I can remember I was always attracted to black heads and red heads. My first crush was in second grade with a Hawaiin girl and then two older red heads in my town. Blondes are overrated.
Dark-haired, dark eyed girls have always done it for me. Mrs. 3 wood has dark hair and the blackest eyes you have ever seen.
When we met, I took one look at the hair and eyes and was done for. Totally smitten.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:26am |
re: #880 Dark_Falcon
That might well be the best idea. I have to head to work now (I normally work on Sunday). Talk to you later.
Have a good day!
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_RememberTonyC Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:28am |
re: #897 Ojoe
My only experience with unions has been negative. There was a time they were really necessary. And there are still some businesses where they are needed (coal miners, jobs with dangerous working conditions, etc). But by and large, unions exist to protect the mediocre and enrich the bosses with the dues of the workers. Any non-union shop where management shows respect for its workers is a better place with a more uplifting atmosphere.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:51am |
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unclassifiable Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:06:55am |
Morning is over. Nephew is here enlisting me to move furniture.
Take care lizards!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:07:00am |
re: #891 MandyManners
Lucky you. I guess you haven't seen "Desperately Seeking Susan". One scene has her drying her pits in a washroom from the air dryers.
/then there was the naked pic layouts.
//Yeah, I was/is shameless.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:07:00am |
re: #807 rancherUmm, no I think the Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield types (who of course had other attributes) and even actresses before then started the "blonde thing" off - especially because blondes tend to stand out more in Black and White Films.
Me, I like Brunettes the best I guess.
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ryannon Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:07:18am |
re: #794 Walter L. Newton
No, your story is not strange at all. What kind of bird? Parrots are the most domesticated of all birds, but I have seen other birds on occasion get really "friendly" with their human protectors.
You kind of story happens all the time in the "parrot world."
Yes, parrots are simply amazing. Some have been clinically evaluated to possess a level of intelligence equal to that of a seven-year-old.
As for my bird, I'd lose what little credibility I have here if I 'fessed up. Suffice to say that it's not a vulture. I found him as a baby, took him home and hand-fed him for several weeks and then discovred that he had permanent neurological damage and was unable to maintain his sense of balance in flight. Kind-hearted as I am, I was unable to do anything but keep him. At first, I tried to delimit our territories, but he'd visibly get depressed. He had bonded with me as a baby, and it would totally bum him out if he couldn't keep up physical contact.
As he grew into adulthood, our relationship morphed into a sort of 'partership' marked by a shared domesticity.
In the meantime, I lost my girlfriend, practically all of my friends and have come to live more or less a retired existence with Poopzilla (his name)...the pigeon.
To be honest, I've never had a moment of reget: he's the best thing ever to come into my life.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:07:57am |
re: #887 3 wood
It tells me that people with a lot of cash are still moving forward and spending it, but the builders are not building any more "spec" houses in the middle range. And there is such a backlog of empty houses in that range the new construction has stopped.
Look for decreased employment in the trades and construction field for a while, but onthe positive side dropping prices for construction materials.
That's my take on it.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:08:10am |
re: #891 MandyManners
I don't recall that.
IIRC, my roomie in the Army had her first album. It was either on the cover or inside, hell maybe it was in a magazine, but the chick was sportin' some pit hair.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:08:46am |
re: #814 Walter L. Newton
Huh, and here I was thinking that the town of Golden Chamber of Commerce paid ya to sign off like that!
/
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:08:54am |
re: #908 alegrias
We North Americans cannot reverse
70 years of Socialist Mexican governments.
Maybe not, but we can't keep doing what we are doing. Its like the money pit from The Onion last night (a few threads ago).
We might not be able to reverse everything and undo all of the bad that has already been done, but there is a solution and the solution needs to be Mexican, not American. The solution will be Mexico that can support its own population.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:08:56am |
re: #896 J.D.
Don't you just love it when they advertise that stuff as "free"?
But "free" "sells"...
If it brings in the customers, it's worth it. I think. I don't know. I'm not an economist.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:09:37am |
re: #897 Ojoe
Teacher's union is pretty bad too.
Our kids have had some awful teachers, & their union protects them.
And, they're offering a product more important than any SUV.
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bellamags Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:09:39am |
re: #914 3 wood
Dark-haired, dark eyed girls have always done it for me. Mrs. 3 wood has dark hair and the blackest eyes you have ever seen.
When we met, I took one look at the hair and eyes and was done for. Totally smitten.
that is sweet ; )
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:09:40am |
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:09:59am |
We have no need to give them a reason to stay home when we could kill their need to come into the US stricter punishments for companies that higher illegals while making it easier to check if a social is being illicitly used(Socials were never meant to be used the way they are today but were stuck with what we are stuck with) takes away the job seeking illegals incentive to come into the country, which frees up resources to deal with the criminal illegals coming in to the country. This can only be properly inplemented however if we increase the number of work visa's issued to fill jobs american's really won't do (allthough most claim they can't do em).
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:11:04am |
re: #919 BlueCanuck
Lucky you. I guess you haven't seen "Desperately Seeking Susan". One scene has her drying her pits in a washroom from the air dryers.
/then there was the naked pic layouts.
//Yeah, I was/is shameless.
She didn't shave?
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:11:40am |
re: #824 rancher
Marilyn Monroe and LEGS? AH, excuse me but you want to head north with that - just like Jayne Mansfield.
It was dumb, blonde haired Big Boobed women!
(hope this doesn't start into a boob thread!).
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:11:46am |
re: #923 x-wing
IIRC, my roomie in the Army had her first album. It was either on the cover or inside, hell maybe it was in a magazine, but the chick was sportin' some pit hair.
Trying hard to be European.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:11:52am |
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:12:32am |
A little levity Descartes is sitting in a bar having a drink, bartender asks him if he would like another. he replies I think not and vanishes in a puff of logic
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:12:34am |
re: #926 MandyManners
If it brings in the customers, it's worth it. I think. I don't know. I'm not an economist.
Neither am I, but my point really is that it's the un"free" fees that they don't tell you about up front that negate the freebies.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:12:38am |
re: #932 ploome hineni
...meanwhile, back at the looneybin
they really mean, Karen Armstrong former nun and psychiatric patient
Maybe it'll keep Hollywood busy gazing at their navels.
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freedombilly Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:12:42am |
Good morning all. It is cold outside in DC the day after a tornado warning and grilling in a t-shirt at 9:30 pm!
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:12:47am |
re: #902 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Still wearing that leather jacket over the t-shirt with the collar flipped up and hair greased back, eh?
Fits with the vette, I shoulda known...
The collar isnt flipped back and the hair isnt greased, but other than that well yea... ;)
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:12:48am |
re: #899 rancher
We never should have had the first bailout I said it then and stand by it and this current one is definately not necessary. Trim the fat(unions) and let em restructure without unions bullying the companies. The port Union leader calling for a strike right before Christmas needs to be tossed under Obama's bus with all the other trash.
* * *
Corrupt unions such as the DC Teachers Union of 4,000 teachers who don't teach kids how to read, write or do arithmetic, deserve to fall apart. We have a tough new sheriff named Michelle Rhee who's trying to let charter schools have independent teachers get merit pay and parents have more say about their kids' education. Our half black DC Mayor Adrian Fenty supports the effort to free teachers from union corruption & control.
Lizards please stay alert & help us see whether Obama supports these efforts to let good teachers work to raise children up, without being held back or down by their lazy, shiftless, union bosses here in 99% democrat controlled corruptopolis, Washington DC.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:13:10am |
re: #893 Sharmuta
I have to take her out to dinner before I get your stuff back?
Hmmm, tie a big huge feedbag on her...you may be onto something there.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:13:10am |
re: #934 ploome hineni
I like it when they offer the 'free' CD, but charge you 6.95 for shipping and handling
They must think we're stupid.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:13:30am |
re: #914 3 wood
Dark-haired, dark eyed girls have always done it for me. Mrs. 3 wood has dark hair and the blackest eyes you have ever seen.
When we met, I took one look at the hair and eyes and was done for. Totally smitten.
I would ask the typical (does she have a sister) but I wont ;>}
Same here, throw in an Asian accent and I'm like buttah.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:13:43am |
The black and white boom thing had a large impact on the blondes thing likely for the older generations. I still Blame MTV and there like for it amongst the younger folks tho especially in light of Modern movies reigniting the Asian craze in women recently.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:13:43am |
re: #940 J.D.
Neither am I, but my point really is that it's the un"free" fees that they don't tell you about up front that negate the freebies.
That's why I read the small print.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:13:59am |
re: #933 MandyManners
Nope, and talk about thick too. :p
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:14:16am |
re: #932 ploome hineni
I didn't click, but I have to know: is there an Arabic version?
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:14:35am |
re: #905 realwest
Good morning dorian! How are you doing today?
Pretty good my friend, pretty good, and how about yourself?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:15:03am |
re: #943 doriangrey
The collar isnt flipped back and the hair isnt greased, but other than that well yea... ;)
Life is good!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:16:04am |
re: #943 doriangrey
The collar isnt flipped back and the hair isnt greased, but other than that well yea... ;)
... and the girls don't ask to borrow your comb?
/ y' just MIGHT be old enough to remember that, young fella .. heh
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:16:22am |
re: #930 rancher
spot on. you touched on the jobs Americans won't do myth. The solution to that is severe reduction in welfare benefits. There are way too many able bodied people sitting around doing nothing productive because they can get away with it. I used to do eligibility for welfare benefits. had to change jobs as that one was sucking my soul away.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:16:58am |
re: #932 ploome hineni
...meanwhile, back at the looneybin
A website launched Friday with the backing of technology industry and Hollywood elite urges people worldwide to help craft a framework for harmony between all religions.
The Charter for Compassion project on the Internet at [Link: [Link: www.charterforcompassion.org...]...] springs from a "wish" granted this year to religious scholar Karen Armstrong at a premier Technology, Entertainment and Design (TED) conference in California.
they really mean, Karen Armstrong former nun and psychiatric patient
Oh, puh-leeze.
I do not recall much disharmony from my youth, and I knew all sorts of people
I don't see much disharmony (disagreement, yes) right now.
EXCEPT for one.
All this $ and time being spent to encourage harmony isn't necessary to encourage harmony amongst those of us who are harmonious to begin with.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:16:59am |
re: #950 MandyManners
That's why I read the small print.
I'm surprised by how many people don't read it. Oh, well...
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:17:06am |
re: #857 realwest
Huh, didn't realize that, though it could be that I don't much like McGuinn - but love his Rickenbacker guitar! and heard his ego could fill your theater many times over.
And yeah, he's in the R&R Hall of Fame because of the Byrds.
Nice photos, too - you have lost weight (assuming that 's you in the last photo!)
Yes, that was me to the left of him. I was production manager for the show, so everything was my responsibility.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:17:16am |
I think tho i'll be busy these next 4 years a radio host locally asked what our plans were in regards to Obama's presidency "be grumpy for 4 years happy etc." I decided to be vigilant and proactive. Keep an eye on new legislation and bug the hell out of my local reps while encouraging others to do the same.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:17:27am |
BBIB...time to make breakfast.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:17:52am |
re: #959 ploome hineni
lost cause, Karen has become hypnotized by islam
the problem is islam
Which is why I asked. Who threw their money at this thing?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:17:54am |
re: #955 rancher
Well if a blonde is dyed burnette and that's artifical intelligence. Is a burnette dyed blonde artifical stupidit?
/white smoke.
//Ah nuts, this is going to hurt.
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:17:57am |
Umm, no I think the Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield types (who of course had other attributes) and even actresses before then started the "blonde thing" off - especially because blondes tend to stand out more in Black and White Films.
Me, I like Brunettes the best I guess.
* * *
Very plausible, RealWest.
Platinum blondes go back to Jean Harlow, Marlene Dietrich, etc. (Imagine what horrible chemical bleaches they applied to their hair & scalp. Talk about toxic)
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:18:08am |
re: #954 ploome hineni
lol
wonder how many people take them up on it, that commercial costsmoney and has been on TV a long time
I always fall for those things.
always.
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freedombilly Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:18:37am |
re: #916 _RememberTonyC
I have been a classical musician making money for about 15 years now and have never been a member of the union for a single day. But that is only because I went the chamber music route and not with a symphony.
In Boston, where I grew up, it is the Boston Symphony Orchestra that props up the entire music union there. You can play with the BSO or the Pops only once without being a member of the music union there. After that they will not hire you again until you join. And they control so much of the money and the scene there that basically everyone belongs to the union in that town.
I have some friends who are down right mystified by the fact that I am not in the union and I've gotten some attitude about it. They almost feel like I am threatening them by choosing not to be in the union myself. When I tell them that I am my own boss and that I don't need a union they just stare at me like my head is hollow.
Very sad.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:19:04am |
re: #917 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good. I stopped trying to look cool years . Remember that episode of Happy Days where Fonzie said to Ritchie, "with that Howdy Doody face you can only be so tough."
That pretty much sums me up ;>}
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:19:10am |
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:19:26am |
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:19:28am |
One of the things to bear in mind about the economy, and I'm not kidding about this, is about January 21st I expect the MSM will change their tone and suddenly the economy will be doing much better.
They have been in full metal jacket bashing mode for so long, but once the Messiah is sworn in, the shameless MSM shills will put on their cheer leading dresses and do high kicks for Obama. Part of that will be telling you that the economy is doing so much better then.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:21:26am |
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:21:59am |
re: #947 x-wing
I would ask the typical (does she have a sister) but I wont ;>}
Several, but they've all been married for over 20 years.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:22:01am |
re: #954 ploome hineni
lol
wonder how many people take them up on it, that commercial costsmoney and has been on TV a long time
It must be making money for someone.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:22:41am |
But really I never understood the blonde/brunette/redhead thing. I was always looking for the crazy chicks who made me look normal calm and collected by comparison.
Rustler, SE New Mexico
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:22:46am |
re: #925 bellamags
We North Americans cannot reverse
70 years of Socialist Mexican governments.Maybe not, but we can't keep doing what we are doing. Its like the money pit from The Onion last night (a few threads ago).
We might not be able to reverse everything and undo all of the bad that has already been done, but there is a solution and the solution needs to be Mexican, not American. The solution will be Mexico that can support its own population.
* * *
When low income people can work & shop at Wal-Marts and McDonalds in their own country, and feel like they have a higher standard of living than they did before, and have hope their children can have a better life there, they will NOT COME!
Until then, our embarassment of riches--and YES, America is still a great place in most people's minds--will attract the hungry, ambitious & hardworking, despite the risks.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:22:52am |
re: #936 MandyManners
Trying hard to be European.
Big time. I was in Germany at the time and I thought she was Italian or something. Just another poser. But if Italy wants her I wont complain, I'd love to hear that accent
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:22:56am |
re: #904 J.D.
Yeah, I be doing ok, long as I continue to ignore chores that I keep putting off cause "they won't take much time to do!" LOL!
But I don't want to hear about cold - it was an effin 37 degrees when I woke up this am, and it's supposed to go down to 30 degrees - THAT'S BELOW FREEZING - here in the Southland tonight!
GACK!
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:23:24am |
re: #979 ploome hineni
short article
Well, that's a sweet thought, I guess...if you don't mind being clueless...
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:23:39am |
re: #958 bbuddha
spot on. you touched on the jobs Americans won't do myth. The solution to that is severe reduction in welfare benefits. There are way too many able bodied people sitting around doing nothing productive because they can get away with it. I used to do eligibility for welfare benefits. had to change jobs as that one was sucking my soul away.
Who's gonna' pay for child care and health insurance for the kids if their parents earn slightly more than the cut-off amount? Provide it at a very low cost?
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:23:40am |
re: #978 J.D.
You read Bias, too, didn't you?
Actually no.
I just know a lot of these people, I dealt directly with the print, TV and radio MSM in my previous career for over 20 years.
I know what biased liars most of them are.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:24:11am |
re: #961 J.D.
I'm surprised by how many people don't read it. Oh, well...
I'm sure it enriches the other party.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:25:07am |
When i walked outside at 1AM this morning to check parking lot at hotel was 15 degrees Fahrenheit outside.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:25:19am |
re: #971 freedombilly
I have been a classical musician making money for about 15 years now and have never been a member of the union for a single day. But that is only because I went the chamber music route and not with a symphony.
In Boston, where I grew up, it is the Boston Symphony Orchestra that props up the entire music union there. You can play with the BSO or the Pops only once without being a member of the music union there. After that they will not hire you again until you join. And they control so much of the money and the scene there that basically everyone belongs to the union in that town.
I have some friends who are down right mystified by the fact that I am not in the union and I've gotten some attitude about it. They almost feel like I am threatening them by choosing not to be in the union myself. When I tell them that I am my own boss and that I don't need a union they just stare at me like my head is hollow.
Very sad.
Question. Where are you located. Existing with or without belonging to an entertainers union can depend on where you are located.
In the Denver Metro area, we only have three equity houses. And most of the 40 plus other companies are very professional, but, as always in a smaller market, they are not 6 day a week performance venues and most of the talent receive a stipend.
I make a living (meager) in live theatre here only because I don't belong to the union and I have been doing it so long (part time) that my background more than makes up for what someone pays me.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:25:20am |
re: #913 Ojoe
Very nice photo Ojoe - how are you doing? And btw, the fires in California are on Fox like 24/7 - they do seem to be REALLY bad.
Hope you and yours are ok!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:25:31am |
re: #977 ploome hineni
it is a smart woman who early on realizes how she can control men by acting stupid
Heh ... dare I agree, and cite a source for more data on this crap?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:25:37am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:25:37am |
re: #988 ploome hineni
it's that video professor
and other ads say, 'you' buy this thing, and you get another free
just pay shipping and handling...9.95 or whatever
I called once to take advantage of an offer like that.
The "handling and shipping" for the 2nd item was more than the entire cost for one item.
I told 'em - nevah mind.
Never called again (yes, I can learn, takes awhile maybe)
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:26:24am |
re: #976 3 wood
One of the things to bear in mind about the economy, and I'm not kidding about this, is about January 21st I expect the MSM will change their tone and suddenly the economy will be doing much better.
They have been in full metal jacket bashing mode for so long, but once the Messiah is sworn in, the shameless MSM shills will put on their cheer leading dresses and do high kicks for Obama. Part of that will be telling you that the economy is doing so much better then.
How will they be able to do that if the numbers show something different?
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:27:05am |
re: #986 realwest
Well, it's in the low 60s right now and going down to 38° tonight. I got out of Kentucky just in time!
Glad you're doing ok.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:27:14am |
re: #914 3 wood
Huh, it was the eyes that got me - with both of my ex-wives who were, I reckon, very good looking by society's standards in all other respects too, but it was the eyes and the smile/laugh that got me hooked and reeled in like a fish on dry land! LOL!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:27:21am |
re: #985 x-wing
Big time. I was in Germany at the time and I thought she was Italian or something. Just another poser. But if Italy wants her I wont complain, I'd love to hear that accent
She and Guy are divorcing. Her terms for parenting time are ridiculous.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:27:51am |
re: #988 ploome hineni
it's that video professor
and other ads say, 'you' buy this thing, and you get another free
just pay shipping and handling...9.95 or whatever
I almost fell for it ages ago.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:28:14am |
Use fuzzy Math to take about it. Make up some odd statement about how less money in the stock market is good since it means people are spending it elsewhere, the MSM will find a way.
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freedombilly Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:28:28am |
re: #993 Walter L. Newton
Question. Where are you located. Existing with or without belonging to an entertainers union can depend on where you are located.
In the Denver Metro area, we only have three equity houses. And most of the 40 plus other companies are very professional, but, as always in a smaller market, they are not 6 day a week performance venues and most of the talent receive a stipend.
I make a living (meager) in live theatre here only because I don't belong to the union and I have been doing it so long (part time) that my background more than makes up for what someone pays me.
I now live in DC. I have also lived in Boston, Phoenix and Baltimore in the last 15 years. My chamber group tours around the states, Europe and Asia for about half of the year. I play a few freelance gigs here but not too many because of all of the travel. I would join the union if I were freelancing regularly but luckily I am my own boss as a member of a limited liability partnership.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:28:31am |
re: #996 MandyManners
You're a peach!
Heh heh heh, well ya know... Shameless self promotion is sooo hard to resist when given such a big opening as that... ;)
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:29:56am |
re: #995 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Heh ... dare I agree, and cite a source for more data on this crap?
lol
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:30:02am |
Bah Dorian your not a painter? Given your nick i figured Artist but was thinking Painter or inker not musician.
Rustler
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:31:10am |
re: #989 MandyManners
Who's gonna' pay for child care and health insurance for the kids if their parents earn slightly more than the cut-off amount? Provide it at a very low cost?
Therin lies the problem of having the welfare program at all. warning this is going to sound harsh but the govt shoudn't make it easy for people with no way to support kids to have them anyway and get a check for it. Hey, I warned you. the health ins thing could be taken care of by free market sources. ie In my state it is impossible to get affordable health ins. (I started a med saving plan instead) because our legislators made it impossible for ins companies to do business here. after most of them left we have one major one and guess what, they get to charge whatever they want, no competition. right next door in NH you can get health ins for a family for about 1/2 of what it costs for a single person here. Like anything. the more companies have to fight for a piece of the pie the better things are for the consumer.
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:32:05am |
Here it is, Obama wants hand outs for everybody (but the "rich"). notice the whores at AP call it "needed shifts" :
Obama notes needed shifts in economic fix
WASHINGTON--- President-elect Barack Obama wants to see shifts in how some of the nation's biggest economic problems are being handled, from helping the troubled auto industry to aiding homeowners fighting foreclosure, he said in an interview.
While he's said there's only one administration in power right now, he said in an interview with CBS ''60 Minutes'' airing Sunday there are some changes he would like to see.
''For the auto industry to completely collapse would be a disaster in this kind of environment,'' Obama said. ''So it's my belief that we need to provide assistance to the auto industry. But I think that it can't be a blank check.''
Obama said he hopes that the White House and Congress will develop an assistance plan with input from all players in the industry -- from management to labor and lenders -- to develop ''a sustainable U.S. auto industry.'' That hasn't happened yet, he said.
And he wants to see more of a focus in the bailout plan on the needs of homeowners.
''We have not focused on foreclosures and what's happening to homeowners as much as I would like,'' Obama said. ''We've got to set up a negotiation between banks and borrowers so that people can stay in their homes. That is going to have an impact on the economy as a whole.'' He said if there's not a focus on homeowners by the time he takes office in January, there will be once he does.
This guy thinks the Federal government can make private industries sustainable. I can just see it, coming ot a car dealer near you, cars designed by Gore and Pelosi.
John Kerry will be negotiating your bank loan "in the fashion of Gengis Khan".
And health care by The Swimmer. If you are over 60 and need and operation, the Dem's will take you on a car ride.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:32:18am |
re: #1005 freedombilly
I now live in DC. I have also lived in Boston, Phoenix and Baltimore in the last 15 years. My chamber group tours around the states, Europe and Asia for about half of the year. I play a few freelance gigs here but not too many because of all of the travel. I would join the union if I were freelancing regularly but luckily I am my own boss as a member of a limited liability partnership.
Got ya. At 55, I'm in a "limited liability" situation. I work in live theatre. 'Nought said. The business has limited liability on whether they can afford to pay me one year to the next.
And this economy is not putting butts in seats like in former depressions/recessions. Not when an evening of entertainment can be had for a buck at McDonald's Red Box, or on your computer screen or 600 channels or theater quality video's in your home.
It's a bit scary.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:32:22am |
re: #1007 ploome hineni
it is the nature of all relationships that one person is the 'alpha', better a manipulated man than an abusive controlling man
"alpha" -- probably, but that wasn't what Vilar wrote about. Far from it.
"abusive controlling" is far FAR more serious crap ... *spit*
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:32:34am |
re: #1009 rancher
Bah Dorian your not a painter? Given your nick i figured Artist but was thinking Painter or inker not musician.
Rustler
ROTFLMAO... Nope, just your everyday garden variety Nearly Practically Almost Famous Rock Star and self proclaimed Guitar Virtuoso... ;)
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:32:56am |
re: #998 MandyManners
I think it has been quite some time since they let their stories be dictated by reality
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:33:05am |
re: #998 MandyManners
How will they be able to do that if the numbers show something different?
They will lie.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:33:23am |
re: #1010 bbuddha
Therin lies the problem of having the welfare program at all. warning this is going to sound harsh but the govt shoudn't make it easy for people with no way to support kids to have them anyway and get a check for it. Hey, I warned you. the health ins thing could be taken care of by free market sources. ie In my state it is impossible to get affordable health ins. (I started a med saving plan instead) because our legislators made it impossible for ins companies to do business here. after most of them left we have one major one and guess what, they get to charge whatever they want, no competition. right next door in NH you can get health ins for a family for about 1/2 of what it costs for a single person here. Like anything. the more companies have to fight for a piece of the pie the better things are for the consumer.
One logical extension is to take kids away from poor people who cannot afford them.
As for pricing companies out of the market, what kind of coverage did the state insist on?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:33:39am |
re: #1017 doriangrey
ROTFLMAO... Nope, just your everyday garden variety Nearly Practically Almost Famous Rock Star and self proclaimed Guitar Virtuoso... ;)
I thought you are famous. That's what i have been telling all my friends (like Roger McGuinn... LOL)
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:33:47am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:33:52am |
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freedombilly Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:00am |
re: #1015 Walter L. Newton
Got ya. At 55, I'm in a "limited liability" situation. I work in live theatre. 'Nought said. The business has limited liability on whether they can afford to pay me one year to the next.
And this economy is not putting butts in seats like in former depressions/recessions. Not when an evening of entertainment can be had for a buck at McDonald's Red Box, or on your computer screen or 600 channels or theater quality video's in your home.
It's a bit scary.
Agreed. I have heard of some concert series are not folding completely but are skipping a season. Pretty scary.
Good luck to you.
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JCM Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:05am |
re: #1017 doriangrey
ROTFLMAO... Nope, just your everyday garden variety Nearly Practically Almost Famous Rock Star and self proclaimed Guitar Virtuoso... ;)
You left out modest...
;-P
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:16am |
re: #998 MandyManners
How will they be able to do that if the numbers show something different?
* * *
The economy will miraculously be reported as doing great when Obama takes the presidential oath of office--just like we never had any terrorist attacks while Pres. Clinton was in office. (Except for the 8 or so big attacks that ocurred from his 2nd month to his last month in office, but HEY, the Media didn't care to cover islamist/Al Qaedan terrorist attacks on America UNLESS they were perpetrated by deranged Americans.)
(Notice William Ayers though a deranged American Terrorist, was a 1960s rebellious revolutionary and therefore thoroughly RESPECTABLE American terrorist, unlike Timothy McVeigh an unhinged ex military American terrorist.)
Distinctions will be made! Some news will be better than other news, but it will be slanted.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:36am |
re: #1011 ploome hineni
she lives in her own world, where everything revolves around her
she is the center of her universe
and her hundreds of millions tell her she is right
I'm glad I never bought a single record from her. She always struck me as being a show-off.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:41am |
re: #1021 Walter L. Newton
I thought you are famous. That's what i have been telling all my friends (like Roger McGuinn... LOL)
ROTFLMAO... Famous enough that YOU know who I am... ;p
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Sharmuta Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:45am |
re: #1012 realwest
I do dig the slowed down, more soulful version- it fits better than the song's original upbeat, pop tempo.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:48am |
re: #1014 3 wood
This guy thinks the Federal government can make private industries sustainable.
Probably learned that in college...yeah...that's it...
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3 wood Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:34:59am |
re: #1004 J.D.
Well, Bernard Goldberg nailed it in Bias.
I've heard about it, I'll have to read it.
I'm off to church now folks. Talk to you later.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:35:06am |
re: #953 doriangrey
Just as cool as I ever was! Flipped up collar - must figure cool = Fonzie from Happy days! LOL!
But the leather jacket - absolutely and with jeans, never EVER with "Dockers" or crap like that!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:35:19am |
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:35:37am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:35:44am |
re: #1014 3 wood
Here it is, Obama wants hand outs for everybody (but the "rich"). notice the whores at AP call it "needed shifts" :
Obama notes needed shifts in economic fix
This guy thinks the Federal government can make private industries sustainable. I can just see it, coming ot a car dealer near you, cars designed by Gore and Pelosi.John Kerry will be negotiating your bank loan "in the fashion of Gengis Khan".
And health care by The Swimmer. If you are over 60 and need and operation, the Dem's will take you on a car ride.
Stupid Commie bastard.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:36:12am |
re: #957 pre-Boomer Marine brat "... and the girls don't ask to borrow your comb?"
That's just Kookie!
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:36:20am |
re: #1014 3 wood
Here it is, Obama wants hand outs for everybody (but the "rich"). notice the whores at AP call it "needed shifts" :
Obama notes needed shifts in economic fix
This guy thinks the Federal government can make private industries sustainable. I can just see it, coming ot a car dealer near you, cars designed by Gore and Pelosi.
John Kerry will be negotiating your bank loan "in the fashion of Gengis Khan".
And health care by The Swimmer. If you are over 60 and need and operation, the Dem's will take you on a car ride.
A (organic, free-range, antibiotic-free) chicken in every pot and a Trabant in every garage!
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:36:20am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:36:26am |
re: #1018 bbuddha
I think it has been quite some time since they let their stories be dictated by reality
They also helped create reality.
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doriangrey Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:36:28am |
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:37:10am |
re: #990 3 wood
Actually no.
I just know a lot of these people, I dealt directly with the print, TV and radio MSM in my previous career for over 20 years.
I know what biased liars most of them are.
That's what I've been telling all my friends (liberal and what not).
The same thing happened when Clinton got in. The media pooh-poohed the economy and then poof... Clinton was elected and it was fuzzy bunnies and unicorns.
I still think Soros had his hand in this one,but I could be wrong.
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Last Mohican Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:37:23am |
re: #1014 3 wood
We've got to
set up a negotiation between banks and borrowers so that people can stay in their homes.continue the process of extortion, led by groups like ACORN and sanctioned by Democratic congressional representatives, that led to this problem in the first place.
Fixed that for His Holiness.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:37:29am |
re: #1019 3 wood
They will lie.
How will they paint a rosey picture of the Dow when it drops 500 in one day?! When housing starts are at the bottom? When inflation soars?
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:37:50am |
re: #1037 realwest
"... and the girls don't ask to borrow your comb?"
That's just Kookie!
If I laugh at that, does it give away my age?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:37:52am |
Be back after 5:00pm mountain. Off to the theatre. Time to bring a little Christmas cheer to the masses (7 fucking weeks before Xmas. Don't you think this is TOO early).
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:38:27am |
re: #1044 MandyManners
How will they paint a rosey picture of the Dow when it drops 500 in one day?! When housing starts are at the bottom? When inflation soars?
That's all W's fault, don't you see?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:38:50am |
re: #1027 alegrias
* * *
The economy will miraculously be reported as doing great when Obama takes the presidential oath of office--just like we never had any terrorist attacks while Pres. Clinton was in office. (Except for the 8 or so big attacks that ocurred from his 2nd month to his last month in office, but HEY, the Media didn't care to cover islamist/Al Qaedan terrorist attacks on America UNLESS they were perpetrated by deranged Americans.)(Notice William Ayers though a deranged American Terrorist, was a 1960s rebellious revolutionary and therefore thoroughly RESPECTABLE American terrorist, unlike Timothy McVeigh an unhinged ex military American terrorist.)
Distinctions will be made! Some news will be better than other news, but it will be slanted.
And, McVeigh was a Turner Diaries' kinda' guy while Ayers was a Commie.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:39:10am |
re: #1022 ploome hineni
what did she have to say about the 'manipulated' man?
Oh m' gosh! I don't know how to give a brief synopsis, except to say that a more descriptive title might be ... "The Manipulation of Men".
Vilar (who is a feminist) was writing to the feminists of the 60's, telling them why the mass of women weren't climbing on the Womens' Lib bandwagon.
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JCM Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:39:25am |
re: #1042 x-wing
I still think Soros had his hand in this one,but I could be wrong.
I said the same thing awhile back, Soros tanked the Back of England and Hungrary (IIRC) to make a profit. What's tanking the stock market to help his bought and paid for minion?
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:39:32am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
I'm glad I never bought a single record from her. She always struck me as being a show-off.
* * *
Amen! Not gonna buy crap from nor talk about idiotic people. Not giving them my money, evah! Cultural rot is all they brought. Not gonna go there.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:39:54am |
re: #1042 x-wing
That's what I've been telling all my friends (liberal and what not).
The same thing happened when Clinton got in. The media pooh-poohed the economy and then poof... Clinton was elected and it was fuzzy bunnies and unicorns.
I still think Soros had his hand in this one,but I could be wrong.
The homeless were front and center when Reagan was in; when Clinton was in, why, it must have been a miracle! Poof! It was as though they were gone!
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loppyd Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:40:08am |
You know you have a problem when the liberal columnists at the Boston Globe turn on you...
Enough with those bailout lines
By Joan Vennochi
The Service Employees International Union, the Teamsters, the AFL-CIO all backed Obama at critical moments during the tough primary and general election seasons. According to the Asssociated Press, Obama received 60 percent of the union vote in 14 states where voters were asked if they were union members. Union support was even higher in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Washington, and Michigan. The Michigan AFL-CIO dispatched 85,000 volunteers to knock on 500,000 doors, make 1 million phone calls to union members, and distribute 2 million leaflets at work sites, the AP reported.
Already, it's payback time.
Bankruptcy offers companies the best chance at a fresh start, some experts say. But jobs and benefits will be shed during the painful restructuring process. In contrast, a government bailout for General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Corp., and Chrysler will save union jobs and collective-bargaining agreements, at least in the short term.
Beyond the bailout, the labor agenda includes policies that make it easier to form unions, expand the pool of workers who can join them, and extend healthcare benefits. The automakers and the United Auto Workers want half of whatever they get from Washington to help the companies meet healthcare obligations for more than 780,000 retirees and their dependents, under contracts signed in 2007.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:40:16am |
re: #1037 realwest
"... and the girls don't ask to borrow your comb?"
That's just Kookie!
Byrnes my butt!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:40:48am |
re: #1042 x-wing
That's what I've been telling all my friends (liberal and what not).
The same thing happened when Clinton got in. The media pooh-poohed the economy and then poof... Clinton was elected and it was fuzzy bunnies and unicorns.
I still think Soros had his hand in this one,but I could be wrong.
What was Soros doing when Congress passed the CRA that forced bankers/lenders to give mortgages to anyone? Wasn't he busy fucking up Eastern Europe?
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:40:48am |
re: #1001 MandyManners
She and Guy are divorcing. Her terms for parenting time are ridiculous.
I saw that in the news. I almost long for the days when she was just considered a slut without children.
/not that I really want to see that again
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valkyrie Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:41:11am |
I have a parrot story to share with Walter. My sister works in the bird room at an animal hospital and they have several permanent residents. One is a parrot owned by the hospital's vet. The bird has a completely naked torso.
When I asked my sister what happened to the bird, she told me the story of how the bird, twenty years ago, was so distraught when the vet started dating his future wife that the parrot plucked away all of her torso feathers. The plucking damaged the follicles and the feathers never grew back.
Eventually, the vet had to move the bird out of his home to the hospital where she could still see him on a daily basis but be away from the wife, who still, after twenty years, drives the bird into fits of jealousy.
Parrots are very possessive of their one special person.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:41:57am |
re: #1047 J.D.
That's all W's fault, don't you see?
And, McCain helped further that image when he didn't go after the Democrats who were busy forcing lenders to give loans to those who could not pay them back.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:42:28am |
re: #1042 x-wing
That's what I've been telling all my friends (liberal and what not).
The same thing happened when Clinton got in. The media pooh-poohed the economy and then poof... Clinton was elected and it was fuzzy bunnies and unicorns.
I still think Soros had his hand in this one, but I could be wrong.
You're not. Goldfinger made tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions, shorting CDOs and other mortgage-back securities.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:42:38am |
re: #1039 J.D.
No, but I read the reviews at your link.
Ah ha. Saw that some were down there, but didn't read them. My knee-jerk would be that they'd be either rabidly pro or anti. The book caused a firestorm in the Womens' Lib movement when it came out.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:43:01am |
re: #1050 JCM
I said the same thing awhile back, Soros tanked the Back of England and Hungrary (IIRC) to make a profit. What's tanking the stock market to help his bought and paid for minion?
I read here that he lost a chunk of change recently but, a short-term loss is nothing when compared to getting political power.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:43:09am |
re: #1059 MandyManners
And, McCain helped further that image when he didn't go after the Democrats who were busy forcing lenders to give loans to those who could not pay them back.
I'll never understand that. He's too nice? I did like his comment about sleeping like a baby, though. He can be quite humorous.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:43:44am |
re: #1051 alegrias
* * *
Amen! Not gonna buy crap from nor talk about idiotic people. Not giving them my money, evah! Cultural rot is all they brought. Not gonna go there.
I was busy with the CPUSA when she hit the scene.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:11am |
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:24am |
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JCM Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:27am |
re: #1062 MandyManners
I read here that he lost a chunk of change recently but, a short-term loss is nothing when compared to getting political power.
Small price for having a President in you pocket.
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:29am |
1020 Mandy Manners.
One logical extension is to take kids away from poor people who cannot afford them.
I wouldn't call that a logical extension. I don't claim to have all the answers but I think it is safe to say that the system as is doesn't work. It is way to easy to commit fraud and it traps people.
The insurance issue was regulatory in nature, not allowing companies to offer tailored plans etc.
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joan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:37am |
re: #1027 alegrias
* * *
The economy will miraculously be reported as doing great when Obama takes the presidential oath of office--just like we never had any terrorist attacks while Pres. Clinton was in office. (Except for the 8 or so big attacks that ocurred from his 2nd month to his last month in office, but HEY, the Media didn't care to cover islamist/Al Qaedan terrorist attacks on America UNLESS they were perpetrated by deranged Americans.)(Notice William Ayers though a deranged American Terrorist, was a 1960s rebellious revolutionary and therefore thoroughly RESPECTABLE American terrorist, unlike Timothy McVeigh an unhinged ex military American terrorist.)
Distinctions will be made! Some news will be better than other news, but it will be slanted.
And people who say otherwise will be cut off, ignored, slandered. All of a sudden it will be the Democrats who call us a nation of whiners, and that will be alll alright.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:43am |
re: #976 3 wood
Couldn't agree with you more and, just as they have been for the last 8 years, the MSM will be absolutely, totally WRONG and clueless as to why they are wrong.
And I do think employment is absolutely THE key.
Kinda hard to work out a mortgage or credit card debt if you don't have any income.
But the morons in the MSM won't get it - hell they still don't understand that it was the CRA that literally CREATED the sub-prime market.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:51am |
re: #1053 loppyd
You know you have a problem when the liberal columnists at the Boston Globe turn on you...
Buyers' remorse already.
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nyc redneck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:44:52am |
re: #932 ploome hineni
...meanwhile, back at the looneybin
they really mean, Karen Armstrong former nun and psychiatric patient
these fools need to ask themselves one question and that is, looking down the road, do they see themselves submitting and becoming moslems. because that is the only harmony islam is interested in.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:45:18am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
I'm glad I never bought a single record from her. She always struck me as being a show-off.
I did. But the last one was 18 years ago. Am I forgiven?
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:45:30am |
re: #1038 Spiny Norman
A (organic, free-range, antibiotic-free) chicken in every pot and a Trabant in every garage!
* * *
Yesterday's Wall Street Journal and today's WashPost have interviews with 90+ years olds who remember the great Depression from different perspectives.
My elderly dad's job in the family was to clean the chicken coop which his brother & Dad built to provide meat for the family.
My father & his brother helped support their family with paper routes selling papers to soldiers in nearby military bases. Sometimes the soldiers would give them a ration of bacon that was highly prized. On Sundays, their dad would kill a chicken for dinner. The family bartered the eggs for other items.
No government programs assisted them --everyone worked & they had boarders to help survive.
At 17 Dad wanted to run away & join the Army--which sent him to Korea where he nearly starved while guarding Army trains!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:45:37am |
re: #1056 x-wing
I saw that in the news. I almost long for the days when she was just considered a slut without children.
/not that I really want to see that again
How many kids does she have? Two?
What is Kabala water?
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:45:44am |
re: #1062 MandyManners
I read here that he lost a chunk of change recently but, a short-term loss is nothing when compared to getting political power.
Some of his investments may have tanked, but it's chump change compared to what he made shorting the mortgage market.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:46:35am |
re: #1063 J.D.
I'll never understand that. He's too nice? I did like his comment about sleeping like a baby, though. He can be quite humorous.
I sincerely think he could've won the thing by speaking the truth. Fuck bi-partisanship.
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joan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:46:48am |
By the way: who is this hatchet faced Aussie dude that keeps pontificating about Iraq, and Afghanistan on CNN? He was on D.L. Hughley last night lipping off. He loves bashing the U.S. and Bush. Is he anything other than a media turd?
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JCM Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:46:55am |
re: #1077 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Hi yah!
Morning! Morning started off nice, then the fog rolled in...
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:47:05am |
re: #1067 JCM
Small price for having a President in you pocket.
I wonder how many times he'll get to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:47:41am |
re: #1052 J.D.
The homeless were front and center when Reagan was in; when Clinton was in, why, it must have been a miracle! Poof! It was as though they were gone!
And three months into Pres. Bushs' term they magically appeared again.
The Media relies on stupidity to not get caught at this game. And there is alot of stupidity in this country.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:47:46am |
re: #982 MandyManners
Same thing for the MOST HATED MAN IN TELEVISION:
Billy Mays. He must be making money for a lot of folks cause he's ALWAYS on advertising something.
In his blue work shirt so he looks like someone who labors by hand.
'Cept his shirt is starched and ironed.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:48:40am |
Well my relief is finally here, so that means it's time for me to go. Have yourselves a good day and stay scaly folks.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:48:49am |
re: #1068 bbuddha
1020 Mandy Manners.
One logical extension is to take kids away from poor people who cannot afford them.I wouldn't call that a logical extension. I don't claim to have all the answers but I think it is safe to say that the system as is doesn't work. It is way to easy to commit fraud and it traps people.
The insurance issue was regulatory in nature, not allowing companies to offer tailored plans etc.
I'm all for extending child care and health insurance at reduced costs as people make more and more money. Weening is better than cutting off the teat.
One thing that pisses me off is an insurance company that covers Viagra but not the Pill or other BC methods.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:49:11am |
re: #1053 loppyd
I heard something about the feds are going to bail out the city of Detroit? ? ?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:49:20am |
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Joan Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:49:26am |
re: #1078 MandyManners
I sincerely think he could've won the thing by speaking the truth. Fuck
bi-partisanship.
bi-partisan date rape.
/now I feel better.
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Spiritualized Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:49:29am |
According to The Times, The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers is backing the Saudi Peace Plan Final Solution.
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:49:42am |
re: #1044 MandyManners
How will they paint a rosey picture of the Dow when it drops 500 in one day?! When housing starts are at the bottom? When inflation soars?
* * *
You're describing the Carter years--yet Worst President Carter got a Nobel Prize and Ronald Reagan did not, though he fixed Carter's mess.
They will LIE! Remember Reagan's economic boom years were the worst of times for Democrats, in their minds.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:50:13am |
re: #1076 Spiny Norman
Some of his investments may have tanked, but it's chump change compared to what he made shorting the mortgage market.
Kapo then, Kapo now but, in an American sense.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:50:18am |
re: #1078 MandyManners
I sincerely think he could've won the thing by speaking the truth. Fuck bi-partisanship.
It cost him us.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:50:39am |
re: #1079 joan
By the way: who is this hatchet faced Aussie dude that keeps pontificating about Iraq, and Afghanistan on CNN? He was on D.L. Hughley last night lipping off. He loves bashing the U.S. and Bush. Is he anything other than a media turd?
Does the turd have a name?
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JCM Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:51:07am |
Remember Obama Admiring the ChiComs?
You think he'll get a question in a press conference about his admiration?
Deaths uncounted in China's tainted milk scandal
Beijing's apparent reluctance to admit a higher toll is reinforcing perceptions that the authoritarian government cares more about tamping down criticism than helping families. Lawyers, doctors and reporters have said privately that authorities pressured them to not play up the human cost or efforts to get compensation from the government or Sanlu, the formula maker.
I wonder if he admires Cuba's health care and North Korea's penal system?
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:51:21am |
re: #1053 loppyd
You know you have a problem when the liberal columnists at the Boston Globe turn on you...
For a while now, Rush (and many other conservative pundits) has been calling the proposed car makers' bailout, the "UAW Bailout". Looks like even the Globe agrees.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:51:52am |
re: #1083 realwest
Same thing for the MOST HATED MAN IN TELEVISION:
Billy Mays. He must be making money for a lot of folks cause he's ALWAYS on advertising something.
In his blue work shirt so he looks like someone who labors by hand.
'Cept his shirt is starched and ironed.
He's the asshole whose commercial shows an American flag intentionally torn then glued back together and then placed in a wind tunnel to show how strong the glue is. SHAME ON HIM.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:51:53am |
I apologize if this is a repeat - this page is loading very slowly and I think a dip into the link pool will take forevah!
Racist Emails Sent By Black Posing As White
A 19-year-old Mississippi man is facing federal charges after allegedly sending threatening e-mails with racial overtones to students at several universities, including Nicholls State University and LSU, according to an arrest affidavit.
On Wednesday, FBI agents arrested Dyron Hart, of Poplarville, Miss., and booked him with sending threatening e-mails, stemming from messages he sent to three black students attending Nicholls State, in Thibodaux.
Hart is black.
Hart told the FBI that he wanted to “to create a reaction” after Barack Obama was elected president, according to an arrest affidavit…
Post-racial my (white) ass.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:52:05am |
re: #1055 MandyManners
What was Soros doing when Congress passed the CRA that forced bankers/lenders to give mortgages to anyone? Wasn't he busy fucking up Eastern Europe?
Not sure. I really hate that guy though. I guess it's a fine line between speculator and manipulator.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:52:10am |
re: #1079 joan
By the way: who is this hatchet faced Aussie dude that keeps pontificating about Iraq, and Afghanistan on CNN? He was on D.L. Hughley last night lipping off. He loves bashing the U.S. and Bush. Is he anything other than a media turd?
Michael Ware. A pompous, lying media turd, yes.
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Bloodnok Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:52:20am |
re: #1090 alegrias
* * *
You're describing the Carter years--yet Worst President Carter got a Nobel Prize and Ronald Reagan did not, though he fixed Carter's mess.They will LIE! Remember Reagan's economic boom years were the worst of times for Democrats, in their minds.
Yes. Republican economic booms are always "Wall Street Greed".
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loppyd Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:52:50am |
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:52:53am |
re: #1088 Joan
Can't go along with that choice of words but, if it works for you...!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:53:25am |
re: #1080 JCM
Morning! Morning started off nice, then the fog rolled in...
heh, up above, I was going to add a wisecrack about the Land of Sunshine, but bit my tongue.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:53:34am |
Soros could Afford to be in Europe screwing up their banks at that time. He had his minions back in Chicago etc busy organizing the populace to protest banks that weren't making the obviously bad business decisions of providing sub prime mortgages.
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:53:34am |
re: #1082 x-wing
And three months into Pres. Bushs' term they magically appeared again.
The Media relies on stupidity to not get caught at this game. And there is alot of stupidity in this country.
My mother gets all of her news from CNN. All of it.
But she claims she voted for McCain because she was afraid that Obama didn't have enough experience...although he is "very smart"!
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:53:38am |
re: #1090 alegrias
* * *
You're describing the Carter years--yet Worst President Carter got a Nobel Prize and Ronald Reagan did not, though he fixed Carter's mess.They will LIE! Remember Reagan's economic boom years were the worst of times for Democrats, in their minds.
I wonder if Carter did wonders for the cardigan industry.
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Bloodnok Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:53:44am |
re: #1096 MandyManners
He's the asshole whose commercial shows an American flag intentionally torn then glued back together and then placed in a wind tunnel to show how strong the glue is. SHAME ON HIM.
Wha? They did that? Really?
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:53:59am |
re: #1015 Walter L. Newton
Well you're certainly right about entertainment alternatives, but there is NOTHING as good as a live performance - music, theater, whatever. NOTHING.
And fortunately (I think!) for you, your venue is sufficiently small that you should still be able to fill the house without much trouble.
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:54:07am |
re: #1085 MandyManners
One thing that pisses me off is an insurance company that covers Viagra but not the Pill or other BC methods.
Amen to that.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:54:14am |
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JCM Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:54:19am |
re: #1102 MandyManners
Can't go along with that choice of words but, if it works for you...!
Mandy not agreeing with a choice of words ? ! ? ! ?
I'm dumbfounded!
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pink freud Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:54:41am |
re: #1093 MandyManners
Does the turd have a name?
Michael Ware. He was behind the airing of the sniper video showing American soldiers being killed.
He is a piece of shit.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:55:19am |
re: #1094 JCM
Remember Obama Admiring the ChiComs?
You think he'll get a question in a press conference about his admiration?
Deaths uncounted in China's tainted milk scandal
I wonder if he admires Cuba's health care and North Korea's penal system?
The thing broke before and during the Olympics yet the government didn't want adverser P.R..
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:56:50am |
re: #1028 MandyManners
Uh, Mandy - I don't particularly like her either, but she's an entertainer so of course she's a show off - it offsets all of the incredible personal insecurities she has.
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JCM Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:57:09am |
re: #1113 MandyManners
The thing broke before and during the Olympics yet the government didn't want adverser P.R..
Dead babies leading the Olympic story is a bit of a downer...
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:57:26am |
re: #1090 alegrias
* * *
You're describing the Carter years--yet Worst President Carter got a Nobel Prize and Ronald Reagan did not, though he fixed Carter's mess.They will LIE! Remember Reagan's economic boom years were the worst of times for Democrats, in their minds.
Thew worst time for the whole country! "The Reagan Depression". Seriously, the Dems and their Media sockpuppets actually used that phrase, as well as "the worst economy in the last 50 years", which they trotted out in 1992, after the last housing bust.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:57:37am |
re: #1097 loppyd
I apologize if this is a repeat - this page is loading very slowly and I think a dip into the link pool will take forevah!
Racist Emails Sent By Black Posing As White
Hart told the FBI that he wanted to “to create a reaction” after Barack Obama was elected president, according to an arrest affidavit…
Post-racial my (white) ass.
Makes me wonder again if all those 2,000 who joined Stormfront are white.
Too bad he can't be charged with a hate crime for trying to stir up racial hatred.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:58:09am |
re: #1098 x-wing
Not sure. I really hate that guy though. I guess it's a fine line between speculator and manipulator.
He's way on the side of the latter.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:58:26am |
re: #1079 joan
By the way: who is this hatchet faced Aussie dude that keeps pontificating about Iraq, and Afghanistan on CNN? He was on D.L. Hughley last night lipping off. He loves bashing the U.S. and Bush. Is he anything other than a media turd?
Turn the channel dudette. CNN is so Operation Desert Storm.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:58:48am |
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bbuddha Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:59:33am |
wonderful smells coming from the kitchen, I'm off to see what's for lunch
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 8:59:35am |
re: #1107 Bloodnok
Wha? They did that? Really?
Really. It's a current commercial. I see it on every channel.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:00:04am |
re: #1109 bbuddha
One thing that pisses me off is an insurance company that covers Viagra but not the Pill or other BC methods.
Amen to that.
Other than the blatant sexism, it makes no sense.
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:00:07am |
re: #1085 MandyManners
I'm all for extending child care and health insurance at reduced costs as people make more and more money. Weening is better than cutting off the teat.
One thing that pisses me off is an insurance company that covers Viagra but not the Pill or other BC methods.
* * *
How about an open insurance market with enough variety & price competition so you could CHOOSE the insurance company that provides what YOU want at the price you can afford?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:00:34am |
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Bloodnok Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:00:43am |
re: #1123 MandyManners
Really. It's a current commercial. I see it on every channel.
Bastards all...
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:00:49am |
re: #1118 MandyManners
re: #1098 x-wingre: #1055 MandyMannersWhat was Soros doing when Congress passed the CRA that forced bankers/lenders to give mortgages to anyone? Wasn't he busy fucking up Eastern Europe?Not sure. I really hate that guy though. I guess it's a fine line between speculator and manipulator.
He's way on the side of the latter.
He really IS a real-life James Bond villain: that's why I call him "Goldfinger".
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:01:12am |
re: #1112 pink freud
Michael Ware. He was behind the airing of the sniper video showing American soldiers being killed.
He is a piece of shit.
Please, don't libel shit.
Oh, wow. I'm not surprised CNN has him on.
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jcm Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:01:16am |
Hmmm...
Iran is demand action be taken on behalf of Gaza...
Iran MPs urge Islamic response to Gaza crisis
"In addition to savage killings, lack of water, electricity (and) health services have placed the population in the worst conditions," it said.
The deputies voiced "solidarity" with the Gazan people and asked the Organisation of Islamic Conference and Islamic parliaments to take a collective stance and respond to the "cries of Gazans."
Setting the stage for something? Say on or around Jan. 21?
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:01:17am |
re: #1078 MandyManners
I sincerely think he could've won the thing by speaking the truth. Fuck bi-partisanship.
Exactly. "Bi-partisanship" is one way. When Republicans learn that, they'll win more elections.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:01:51am |
re: #1114 realwest
Uh, Mandy - I don't particularly like her either, but she's an entertainer so of course she's a show off - it offsets all of the incredible personal insecurities she has.
I knew there was something wrong with her when "Papa don't Preach" was released.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:01:52am |
re: #1129 MandyManners
Please, don't libel shit.
Oh, wow. I'm not surprised CNN has him on.
Hell, he's one of their stars.
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jcm Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:02:12am |
re: #1131 legalpad
Exactly. "Bi-partisanship" is one way. When Republicans learn that, they'll win more elections.
Bi-partisanship -- surrender to the (D)s.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:02:15am |
re: #1115 JCM
Dead babies leading the Olympic story is a bit of a downer...
The truth sucks at times.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:02:50am |
re: #1073 loppyd
Hey {loppyd} - how are you doing today good looking?
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:03:18am |
re: #1130 jcm
Maybe. This "siege of Gaza" meme has been circulating for a while.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:03:36am |
///But Mandy not covering BC methods means more women accidentally get knocked up and need abortions which only keeps the hospitals in business hence the need for blue pill scripts to increase the number of pregnancies.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:03:41am |
re: #1117 MandyManners
Makes me wonder again if all those 2,000 who joined Stormfront are white.
Too bad he can't be charged with a hate crime for trying to stir up racial hatred.
At least he's beiong charged with something:
On Nov. 6, Nicholls police contacted the FBI, providing the agents with a list of Internet Protocol addresses, numeric codes given to a computer connected to the Internet, that were associated with Hart’s fake Facebook profile, according to an affidavit.
The FBI investigation led authorities to a home computer being used by Hart, according to an affidavit.
On Nov. 7, Hart told agents that he sent the same threatening messages to students at Nicholls, LSU, the University of Mississippi and the University of Alabama, as well as other people in the Poplarville area, the affidavit states.
Hart was booked into the Stone County Jail in Mississippi and made his initial court appearance Thursday, the FBI reported.
The maximum penalty for transmitting a threatening communication is a five-year prison term, a fine of $250,000 and three years of supervised release.
Nicholls records show that Hart was enrolled for one semester — spring 2008. Rob Bernardi, director of athletics, said that “Hart attempted to earn a walk-on spot on the football team. He practiced with the team from April 3 through April 19, but failed to meet NCAA clearinghouse qualifications, and therefore was never a member of the team.”
Nicholls President Stephen Hulbert issued a statement concerning the incident, saying he was pleased the investigation was quickly completed.
“Our university Police Department worked in complete cooperation with the FBI, Louisiana State Police, the Poplarville Miss., Police Department and the … U.S. Attorney’s Office to resolve this matter as quickly as possible,” Hulbert said.
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:03:54am |
re: #1105 J.D.
My mother gets all of her news from CNN. All of it.
But she claims she voted for McCain because she was afraid that Obama didn't have enough experience...although he is "very smart"!
Bless your mother. But if I had a nickel for each time I've heard..[insert liberal mantra here]. I'd have a steno typing these posts for me.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:04:30am |
re: #1125 alegrias
* * *
How about an open insurance market with enough variety & price competition so you could CHOOSE the insurance company that provides what YOU want at the price you can afford?
Stop making sense!
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Spiny Norman Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:04:35am |
re: #1130 jcm
Hmmm...
Iran is demand action be taken on behalf of Gaza...
Iran MPs urge Islamic response to Gaza crisis
"In addition to savage killings, lack of water, electricity (and) health services have placed the population in the worst conditions," it said.
The deputies voiced "solidarity" with the Gazan people and asked the Organisation of Islamic Conference and Islamic parliaments to take a collective stance and respond to the "cries of Gazans."Setting the stage for something? Say on or around Jan. 21?
Those aren't "cries", but shouts of "allah ackbar" when they launch the Kassams.
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:04:45am |
re: #1094 JCM
Remember Obama Admiring the ChiComs?
You think he'll get a question in a press conference about his admiration?
Deaths uncounted in China's tainted milk scandal
I wonder if he admires Cuba's health care and North Korea's penal system?
* * *
Of course leftists admires countries that apply the "FAIRNESS" doctrine No free speech for you--off to the Gulag or mental hospital--run by the SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:05:05am |
re: #1127 Bloodnok
Bastards all...
I knew it wasn't just his voice that pissed me off. He's a huckster of the worst kind.
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:05:43am |
re: #1128 Spiny Norman
He really IS a real-life James Bond villain: that's why I call him "Goldfinger".
Now I have that song playing in my mind!
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newsjunkie_ky Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:05:48am |
Hi J.D.
Hope you were here when the weather was wonderful. Very cold and windy with snow flurries last night and today.
How are things going with you in S.FL?
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:06:15am |
Yeah it's Israel's fault that when they open the borders and start preparing to send aid to Gaza the rockets start falling and kidnappings start so borders have to be closed again and shipments canceled so as not to provide hostages. Gotta love MidEast politics
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:06:18am |
re: #1131 legalpad
Exactly. "Bi-partisanship" is one way. When Republicans learn that, they'll win more elections.
Why are we always sucking up? Is it the MFM?
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MandyManners Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:06:34am |
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jcm Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:06:45am |
re: #1143 Spiny Norman
Those aren't "cries", but shouts of "allah ackbar" when they launch the Kassams.
Details, details, details...
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:06:48am |
re: #1140 x-wing
Bless your mother. But if I had a nickel for each time I've heard..[insert liberal mantra here]. I'd have a steno typing these posts for me.
I hear ya.
The last Republican she voted for was Eisenhower. Bless her ♥.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:07:22am |
re: #1096 MandyManners
Huh, never saw that one, but he oughta be taken out and [deleted] several times.
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loppyd Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:07:33am |
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x-wing Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:07:34am |
re: #1111 JCM
Mandy not agreeing with a choice of words ? ! ? ! ?
I'm dumbfounded!
It's with good reason
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pink freud Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:07:49am |
re: #1133 Spiny Norman
Hell, he's one of their stars.
Here's the backstory on how CNN acquired the video, along the the obligatory glowing accolades to the esteemed Mr. Ware piece of shit.
"As for the segment itself, Ware was careful to say that CNN received the tape “through intermediaries” who dealt with the Islamic Army of Iraq, and given his history of reporting about the insurgents, we know that he has contacts who have that kind of access. The fact that Ware has contacts who can reach out to the insurgency is — by reading many of the segment’s critics — what bugs CNN’s detractors most. (The fact is, many Western journalists in Iraq have similar contacts, just from having spent so much time reporting there, and working with their Iraqi staff members who may know a guy who knows a guy …)
How, the critics ask, can a reporter have information about how to contact members of the insurgency, and not share it with the military? It’s a fair question, but one that the critics are looking at through a proverbial straw hole. "
This p.o.s. raises my blood pressure and makes me see red.
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rancher Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:10:06am |
Israel recently opened borders along Gaza and were preparing an aid package to send the day before(i think) the truck was to head into Gaza Kassam rockets were fired on a number of border towns. (It may have been hte morning the truck was supposed to depart tho)
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:10:13am |
re: #1147 newsjunkie_ky
Hi J.D.
Hope you were here when the weather was wonderful. Very cold and windy with snow flurries last night and today.
How are things going with you in S.FL?
I was there last week...missed the wonderful week before. I had to fire and hire, so it wasn't the most fun, although I did decorate for Christmas a little (I know it's early, but I had to get home!). It was beautiful, though, the leaves, when I drove to Ashland to see my mother...
Hope you're doing well. I asked about you a while back but you had to scoot and I didn't hear back...
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:10:29am |
re: #1125 alegrias
Uh, that's what McCain was saying, although obviously not very well.
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:12:46am |
re: #1130 jcm Hey there JCM - maybe the OIC could, ya know, take the Palestinians IN, being as how it was Jordan and Egypt that threw the Pali's out of their countries in the first place.
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legalpad Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:12:49am |
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J.D. Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:13:31am |
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realwest Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:15:51am |
re: #1163 legalpad
Replace the F with an S and you'll get it!
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alegrias Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:19:55am |
re: #1161 realwest
Uh, that's what McCain was saying, although obviously not very well.
* * *
Realwest, I know that!~
Open markets means drug companies & insurance companies & hospitals & medical services would have to compete & lower their prices just like any other products & services.
It might lower prices to the point these "service providers" would rather take cash up front than insurance money they have to wait for.
That would be a good thing in many respects.
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BBev Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:21:32am |
re: #1166 alegrias
* * *
Realwest, I know that!~Open markets means drug companies & insurance companies & hospitals & medical services would have to compete & lower their prices just like any other products & services.
It might lower prices to the point these "service providers" would rather take cash up front than insurance money they have to wait for.
That would be a good thing in many respects.
Ya unless you spend over $3,000.00 per month like I do.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:29:56am |
Thread seems dead, but I can't post this yet on the next one.
Cookbook update for anyone who is interested.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:30:30am |
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BBev Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:41:29am |
re: #1169 reine.de.tout
Thread seems dead, but I can't post this yet on the next one.
Cookbook update for anyone who is interested.
cool, saved to Favorites
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Gray Skies Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:52:36am |
re: #1085 MandyManners
As manager of the Appeals Department for an insurance company, I have managed many benefit appeals for coverage of Viagra. Viagra is not prescribed just for sexual dysfunction. It is also prescribed as a treatment for a serious pulmonary condition. We did NOT cover it for sexual dysfunction cases, but we did cover it for the pulmonary condition. Because of advertising, it is easy for the public to assume that Viagra is a drug just for treatment of sexual dysfunction. It is not. Insurers have other medically necessary reasons for granting coverage of this drug.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Nov 16, 2008 9:58:36am |
re: #1172 Gray Skies
As manager of the Appeals Department for an insurance company, I have managed many benefit appeals for coverage of Viagra. Viagra is not prescribed just for sexual dysfunction. It is also prescribed as a treatment for a serious pulmonary condition. We did NOT cover it for sexual dysfunction cases, but we did cover it for the pulmonary condition. Because of advertising, it is easy for the public to assume that Viagra is a drug just for treatment of sexual dysfunction. It is not. Insurers have other medically necessary reasons for granting coverage of this drug.
There is a drug that is an anti-depressant or anti-anxiety drug, also used for smoking cessation.
It is sold under 2 different names; insurances cover one for the anti-depression uses, but do not cover the 2nd drug for smoking cessation purposes.
If viagra had different name, and IF there weren't so many ads with so many happy guys singing the praises of Viagra, then perhaps it would be clearer which uses the drug is being prescribed for.
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