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Open | Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:22:22 pm PST

Let us not speak of them; but look, and pass on.

Dante

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1 Salem  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:24:00pm
2 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:25:20pm

I was looking for the white courtesy phone and ended up here...

3 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:25:37pm

Abandon hope all ye who press [enter] here. :D

/punch line from a short story I read.

4 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:25:41pm
5 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:26:17pm

Sweet dreams, Lizards!

6 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:26:29pm

re: #4 Wyatt Earp

Throw it in the spinoffs, Wyatt.

7 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:26:42pm

Night Mandy, see you in the morning.

8 gmsc  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:27:28pm

re: #1 Salem

Star Trek

Kirk (Star Trek IV): "Start your computations for Time Warp!"

9 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:27:56pm

re: #4 Wyatt Earp

This deserves a look: Drunken Phillies fan hit with liquor bottle.

I hope he didn't fall. Deserves what he got though.

10 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:28:19pm

re: #6 Noam Sayin'

Throw it in the spinoffs, Wyatt.

I'm ashamed to say I don't know how to do that.

11 winston06  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:28:38pm

I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal

12 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:28:47pm
13 solomonpanting  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:30:19pm

re: #11 winston06

I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual candal

Truth in advertising.

14 Rose Parade  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:31:05pm

800+ households lost their homes in Southern California today. I'm fortunate to not be one of them and not even close. But I feel just awful for these poor people. Word is that the fire that destroyed 500 mobile homes in the Sylmar area was arson. Someone set that fire. It didn't have to happen.

Not everyone in L.A. is a filthy rich celebrity with multiple homes. Oprah and Rob Lowe will be fine. A lot of other normal, non-celebrity people, not so much.

15 tommygum  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:31:09pm

I did not......

16 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:31:37pm

re: #10 Wyatt Earp

I'm ashamed to say I don't know how to do that.

Of, for crying out loud. You have your own blog and you don't know how to post a spinoff link?

Click the green line of text that says. "► show spinoff links (0)." I'm almost certain you can figure it out from there - it's three input fields and a drop-down menu.

17 gmsc  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:32:05pm

re: #9 Steve

I hope he didn't fall. Deserves what he got though.

I guess the various speeds are supposed to distract us from the fact that you never actually see him fall?

18 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:32:25pm

Tyop - Of = Oh.

PIFW.

19 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:33:06pm

re: #16 Noam Sayin'

Of, for crying out loud. You have your own blog and you don't know how to post a spinoff link?

Click the green line of text that says. "► show spinoff links (0)." I'm almost certain you can figure it out from there - it's three input fields and a drop-down menu.

I know. I feel shame. Got it, though, thanks! I just never posted a spinoff link here at LGF.

Yeah, I am the world's worst detective.

20 Last Mohican  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:33:33pm

re: #12 Noam Sayin'

Excellent. Thank you.

21 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:34:12pm

re: #17 gmsc

I guess the various speeds are supposed to distract us from the fact that you never actually see him fall?

It also enhances the comedic effect. At least in my opinion, it does.

22 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:34:36pm

re: #3 BlueCanuck

Abandon hope all ye who press [enter] here. :D

/punch line from a short story I read.

By chance, was it a story called "Press Enter"?

I really enjoyed it.

23 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:34:48pm

re: #17 gmsc

I understand people celebrating but for a while it has been getting out of hand. With all the property damage and what not.

24 NY Nana  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:36:30pm

re: #11 winston06

I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal

I watched it earlier, and had to change channels...afraid of having nightmares.

I hope that he will be the one who will stop his political partner, Shrillary, from holding any office in Hussein's 'government'. A lot of people have forgotten what a disgrace he was and still is.

Damn, they are the same ones who don't watch Foxnews.

25 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:36:32pm

re: #3 BlueCanuck

Abandon hope all ye who press [enter] here. :D

/punch line from a short story I read.

Through me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.

Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:
To rear me was the task of power divine,
Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.

Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
All hope abandon ye who enter here.

Such characters in colour dim I mark'd
Over a portal's lofty arch inscrib'd:
Whereat I thus: Master, these words import.

From Dante's Divine Comedy

26 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:36:53pm

re: #22 Dianna

No it wasn't Harlan Ellison(?). It was a collection of "Deals with the Devil" stories. Some fantasy, some involving computers. "Press Enter" was just plain creepy. Good story though.

27 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:37:23pm

OT:

In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?

I would be happy to include a link to the 57-line poem, or just quote the significant lines.

28 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:37:30pm

re: #11 winston06

I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal

That whole thing is completely overblown.

29 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:37:34pm

re: #23 Steve

I understand people celebrating but for a while it has been getting out of hand. With all the property damage and what not.

We had people looting department stores, setting fires, and virtually destroying a fire engine on its way to a call. I was never so ashamed of my city.

30 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:38:31pm

re: #25 Moe Katz

That's not the Rossi translation, is it?

31 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:38:50pm

I am watching Cavuto and there are talking about Freddie May and Fanny Mac helping people who have missed 3 or more payments.

Question from Cuvoto: What will stop people from saying/doing, "I will miss 3 payments and let them help me." This even when these people can make their payments?

32 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:06pm

re: #30 Dianna

That's not the Rossi translation, is it?

H.F. Cary.

33 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:42pm

re: #20 Last Mohican

Yeah, me and a buddy at work were just talking about that tune the other day. I just happened to start mentioning it, and immediately chimed in with, "Ray Charles and Willie Nelson? I love that version!" He's kind of a sod-head, so I've discounted his opinion on music from time to time. But he's also the guy who turned me on to Marty Stuart's "The Pilgrim."

So now I've figured out he has some cool bones.

BTW, even if you don't like Country Music, but that album. It's one of the best ever recorded.

34 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:54pm

re: #26 BlueCanuck

No it wasn't Harlan Ellison(?). It was a collection of "Deals with the Devil" stories. Some fantasy, some involving computers. "Press Enter" was just plain creepy. Good story though.

The writer was the fellow who did some very interesting stories. John Varley? I won't swear to that, but I remember the story. You're right, very creepy.

35 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:39:55pm

re: #29 Wyatt Earp

We had people looting department stores, setting fires, and virtually destroying a fire engine on its way to a call. I was never so ashamed of my city.

the fire engine hurts. My brother is a fireman.

36 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:40:36pm

re: #2 rawmuse

I was looking for the white courtesy phone and ended up here...

Racist!

37 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:40:59pm

re: #32 Moe Katz

Thanks.

It didn't read like the Rossi.

38 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:41:14pm

re: #7 BlueCanuck

Night Mandy, see you in the morning.

You wish!
/

39 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:42:04pm

re: #35 Steve

the fire engine hurts. My brother is a fireman.

We get really pissed when people assault firefighters or damage their equipment. Like watching a member of your family get hurt.

40 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:42:14pm

re: #37 Dianna

Thanks.

It didn't read like the Rossi.

Is the Rossi better?

41 BigJohn  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:42:52pm

re: #1 Salem

Star Trek

I'll probably check that out.

42 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:43:26pm

re: #14 Rose Parade

I hope they live by the Jewish Boy Scout's Motto:
"Be Insured"

43 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:44:00pm

Typo, again

"...buy that album."

I mentioned earlier that I was a little punchy.

44 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:44:23pm

re: #11 winston06

I am watching Fox News special feature on US Presidents and TV. Now showing Slick Billy's sexual scandal

What scandal? Did I miss something?
/

45 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:45:24pm

re: #44 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

What scandal? Did I miss something?
/

Well, you see, there was this vast right-wing conspiracy...

46 pat  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:46:17pm

Sin City is really quite cute. The movie I mean.

47 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:46:22pm

re: #34 Dianna

You are correct, it was John Varley that wrote that. I tended to notice that most of his stories feature computers run amok. Ever read "Steel Beach"?

48 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:46:58pm

re: #40 Moe Katz

Is the Rossi better?

I'd have to read the whole of the Cantos to know. But Rossi's fairly standard, and has been for years. He did the penguin edition, so...

49 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:47:10pm

re: #39 Wyatt Earp


funny story about my brother:
He and another fireman flew from Washington to Florida to pick up a new truck. Every thing went fine until they crossed into New Mexico from Texas and got pulled over by the N M state patrol and held at gun point on the freeway in 100+ temp.
Seem that somebody in Texas had stolen a firetruck and the guy that accompanied my brother had neglected to put the new plates on the rear of the truck. Everything worked out fine after about an hour or so.

50 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:47:16pm

re: #46 pat

yeah, but The Godfather is on AMC right now...

51 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:14pm

re: #47 BlueCanuck

You are correct, it was John Varley that wrote that. I tended to notice that most of his stories feature computers run amok. Ever read "Steel Beach"?

I think so - I've read a lot of Varley. But I won't swear to it.

52 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:16pm

re: #17 gmsc

I guess the various speeds are supposed to distract us from the fact that you never actually see him fall?

Plus there was still booze in the bottle. What kind of knucklehead would do that?

53 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:19pm

re: #49 Steve

funny story about my brother:
He and another fireman flew from Washington to Florida to pick up a new truck. Every thing went fine until they crossed into New Mexico from Texas and got pulled over by the N M state patrol and held at gun point on the freeway in 100+ temp.
Seem that somebody in Texas had stolen a firetruck and the guy that accompanied my brother had neglected to put the new plates on the rear of the truck. Everything worked out fine after about an hour or so.

Well, at least they could hose the seat down afterward. Heh, heh.

54 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:48:43pm

The Pilgrim.

Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.

His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.

55 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:49:16pm

"1408". Scary movie.

56 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:49:27pm

So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.

Sigh.

57 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:49:54pm

re: #56 Dianna

So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.

Sigh.

Wasn't he in Star Trek II?

58 Karridine  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:50:13pm

re: #19 Wyatt Earp

...and Wyatt? Truly has NO 'e'...

59 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:50:39pm

re: #31 Steve

I am watching Cavuto and there are talking about Freddie May and Fanny Mac helping people who have missed 3 or more payments.

Question from Cuvoto: What will stop people from saying/doing, "I will miss 3 payments and let them help me." This even when these people can make their payments?

That dang Cavuto, spouting common sense again.

/What a jerk.

60 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:50:46pm

re: #54 Noam Sayin'

The Pilgrim.

Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.

His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.

Gillian Welch swears that, if you want a good into at the Grand Ole Opry, you must wear rhinestones.

I was in the audience at the Fillmore when she told us that.

61 BigJohn  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:51:01pm

re: #57 Wyatt Earp

Wasn't he in Star Trek II?

The Wrath of Kubla Khan?

62 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:51:11pm

re: #53 Wyatt Earp

Yeah. It is funny now but being pulled out of your truck at gunpoint was not that fun then.

63 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:51:34pm

re: #57 Wyatt Earp

No.

Sorry, no biscuit.

64 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:51:39pm

re: #46 pat

Sin City is really quite cute. The movie I mean.

Just watched that tonight on SciFi. I've come to love Frank Miller adaptations. The 300 was awesome.

65 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:52:07pm

re: #56 Dianna

So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.

Sigh.


Isn't he a chef somewhere?

66 stevieray  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:52:08pm

re: #57 Wyatt Earp

Wasn't he in Star Trek II?

Nah... he had a TV show with a dude named Ollie.

67 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:52:35pm

re: #45 Moe Katz

Well, you see, there was this vast right-wing conspiracy...

Yeah, but I was sick that day.

68 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:53:30pm

re: #65 Steve

Isn't he a chef somewhere?

You're just asking me to quote. I know it.

69 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:53:39pm

re: #58 Karridine

...and Wyatt? Truly has NO 'e'...

Crud. My apologies.

70 Karridine  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:53:46pm

re: #66 stevieray

Nah... he had a TV show with a dude named Ollie.

Ah, yes! Kubla, Con and Ollie!

71 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:22pm

re: #67 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Yeah, but I was sick that day.

LOL

72 pat  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:27pm

re: #64 Noam Sayin'

Just watched that tonight on SciFi. I've come to love Frank Miller adaptations. The 300 was awesome.

Ditto

73 Syrah  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:30pm

re: #27 Dianna

OT:

In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?

I would be happy to include a link to the 57-line poem, or just quote the significant lines.

Douglas Adams references that poem in The Holistic Detective.

74 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:35pm

re: #70 Karridine

Kukla, Fran and Ollie!

75 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:54:55pm

re: #68 Dianna


Quote what?

76 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:55:08pm

re: #74 Dianna

The original sock puppets.

77 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:56:18pm

re: #54 Noam Sayin'

The Pilgrim.

Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.

His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.

She can't be as bad as Linda McCartney singing!

78 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:57:01pm

re: #54 Noam Sayin'

The Pilgrim.

Marty shouldn't wear pants like that at the Grand O'l Opry.

His wife doesn't exactly knock this song out of the park, but it's a nice tune, and she gets some help from backup harmonies.

A little tasteful mandolin solo would have been nice.

79 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:57:31pm

re: #76 rawmuse

The original sock puppets.

I thought Helen Thomas was the original sock puppet.

80 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:57:43pm

re: #68 Dianna

From Moliere:
Tartuffe or, The Imposter
Act 2

Dorine: "To tell the truth, lovers are all insane!"

81 pat  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:58:04pm

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.
So twice five miles of fertile ground
With walls and towers were girdled round:
And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree;
And here were forests ancient as the hills,
Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

But oh! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover!
A savage place! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon lover!
And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
A mighty fountain momently was forced:
Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail:
And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
It flung up momently the sacred river.
Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean:
And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
Ancestral voices prophesying war!

The shadow of the dome of pleasure
Floated midway on the waves;
Where was heard the mingled measure
From the fountain and the caves.
It was a miracle of rare device,
A sunny pleasure dome with caves of ice!

A damsel with a dulcimer
In a vision once I saw:
It was an Abyssinian maid,
And on her dulcimer she played,
Singing of Mount Abora.
Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.

-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

82 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:58:19pm

Fenway Nation is a Sox puppet.

83 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:58:48pm

Dorine: Lovers never run out of things to say!

84 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:58:48pm

re: #73 Syrah

I don't care. I was asking for other lizard's opinions about whether we are to assume that there is a woman, calling to her daemonic lover, or not.

From this part of the second stanza:

But oh ! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover !
A savage place ! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon-lover !

I never read that as requiring an actual woman. I'm rather pissed off at some academic who writes:

In the second stanza, the tenor of the poem shifts from the balance and tranquility in the first few lines to an uneasy suggestion of the preternatural. A woman calls to her daemonic lover and the Khan hearkens to “Ancestral voices prophesying war.”

The passages incorporating these statements are rather separate; one is a simile, the other is a statement in the poem.

I'm irate. But I could easily be wrong.

I'm soliciting other opinions.

85 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:59:05pm

re: #79 Wyatt Earp

I thought Helen Thomas was the original sock puppet.

Actually, she's the original support hose puppet.

86 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:59:10pm

re: #56 Dianna

So no one is going to respond to my "Kubla Khan" query.

Sigh.

re: #27 Dianna

OT:

In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?

no, I don't think so. I think that line is part of the description of the "holy and enchanted savage place." Then again, I've never smoked opium so who knows for sure the true meaning

87 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:59:19pm

re: #75 Steve

Look below. My comment at #84.

88 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 10:59:41pm

re: #85 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Actually, she's the original support hose puppet.

Eww. Rough visual there.

89 Rancher  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:00:09pm

re: #77 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

She can't be as bad as Linda McCartney singing!

Try some Yoko Ono.

90 Karridine  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:01:01pm

re: #74 Dianna

Spoil sport!

Okay, okay, Kookly, Khan and Dollie! As you wish! :D

91 leftover54  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:01:05pm

I don't know if this guy has been a topic here before or not. I did a "search" here and I didn't see his name in the returns. This has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard from the Left (I avoid KOS) and I CAN NOT believe the Libs talk about Rush. I had to click out of the video 15 seconds into it. My Lib friend sent me the link with the caption: "gotta love this guy".
I can only hope he was joking and just trying to get a rise out of me.
I'd hate to think he listens to this stuff on a regular basis. It is delusional and the lack of rational thought is scary. They could make any of us out to be demons worthy of the death penalty or incarceration. Again, there is no hint of rational thought here. Pure propaganda indoctrination you'd expect to hear in the old Soviet Union, the Chinese "...Cultural Revolution" or "Gang of Four". Here is the link - have some Pepto handy - you're gonna need it:

Air America Hate Speech

ps - I read a newspaper story today about a local child molester. It was sickening to read. Still, I felt more "disturbed" listening to this this than by reading the molester story.

92 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:01:24pm

re: #89 Rancher

Try some Yoko Ono.

The "Power Puff Girls" imagery comes to mind.

Not complimentary.

93 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:01:33pm

re: #89 Rancher

Try some Yoko Ono.

I couldn't listen to that right through.

94 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:02:03pm

re: #60 Dianna

Gillian Welch swears that, if you want a good into at the Grand Ole Opry, you must wear rhinestones.

I was in the audience at the Fillmore when she told us that.

Fine for a lady.

I felt Mr. Stuart's pants were a bit tight, and perhaps a bit girly, for the Grand O'l Opry (in that video). Could use a haircut, too - for the Grand O'l Opry.

I say that as a man who's hair once reached his own buttocks, and wore pants far tighter than that, and I'm not nearly the musician as Marty Stuart.

Reminds me of a story from about eight or nine years ago. Steve Earle was touring with the Del McCoury Band. It happened one night that Mr. McCoury heard Earle utter a profanity back-stage at a gig and promptly kicked his sinnin' @$$ off the tour.

The thing is, Steve Earle brought an incredible amount of new faces to the tour that have never heard mountain music, and didn't understand that McCoury is a legend in his time.

Gotta respect a man with standards.

95 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:02:32pm

re: #86 JeremiahRight

To be absolutely fair, Coleridge was a laudanum addict, and did not smoke opium. Or at least, so I understand.

96 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:02:32pm

Hey, Karridine!

How are things going there?

97 capitalist piglet  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:03:08pm

I keep trying to turn you guys on to Wing, but so far, no takers.

98 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:03:49pm

Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.

However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?

99 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:03:56pm

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Did they need 31 years of research to find this out? Good grief.

100 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:04:01pm

re: #89 Rancher

Try some Yoko Ono.

As bad as she is, she's a pro compared to Linda McCartney.

101 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:04:48pm

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

I never heard that Del McCoury kicked Steve out, but, if he did, good for him!

Steve can't seem to get through a sentence without some sort of vulgarity. Pity. I love his songs.

102 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:05:33pm

re: #82 Moe Katz

Not this time of year, although I stake my Celtic pride on the fact that there's somethin' Bruin.

103 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:05:56pm

re: #100 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Linda McCartney was a photographer, and a pretty good one.

I am surprised she tried to sing.

104 lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:06:04pm

re: #91 leftover54

I don't know if this guy has been a topic here before or not. I did a "search" here and I didn't see his name in the returns. This has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard from the Left (I avoid KOS) and I CAN NOT believe the Libs talk about Rush. I had to click out of the video 15 seconds into it. My Lib friend sent me the link with the caption: "gotta love this guy".
I can only hope he was joking and just trying to get a rise out of me.
I'd hate to think he listens to this stuff on a regular basis. It is delusional and the lack of rational thought is scary. They could make any of us out to be demons worthy of the death penalty or incarceration. Again, there is no hint of rational thought here. Pure propaganda indoctrination you'd expect to hear in the old Soviet Union, the Chinese "...Cultural Revolution" or "Gang of Four". Here is the link - have some Pepto handy - you're gonna need it:

Air America Hate Speech

ps - I read a newspaper story today about a local child molester. It was sickening to read. Still, I felt more "disturbed" listening to this this than by reading the molester story.

Oh my God. And the scary thing is, this is the kind of thing that would be required to be given airtime under the "Fairness Doctrine" - oh, someone is praising the fact that Bush has kept us safe for 7 years? Well, here's the counterpoint, you must hear both sides!

You're right, more disturbing than a lot of stuff, and I just wonder how many listen to this truly insane lunatic. Surely someone's going to raise hell and get him in trouble - I mean, what about the guy who thought he had a closed mike and said nasty things about Joe the Plumber? He got fired - this is a LITTLE worse, I think....

105 calcajun  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:06:06pm

re: #1 Salem

This is as bad as "fist".

I am dreading this movie. It might kill a childhood icon.

106 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:06:44pm

re: #98 Fenway_Nation

Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.

However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?


That is pretty good. The last thing I heard about Fomalhaut C inventing was the trash can. And the only reason they invented that was to have something to kick over;P

107 Karridine  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:07:03pm

re: #96 victor_yugo

Victor! Long thyme, no see!

Well, Sunday afternoon goes well in sunny, cloudy but warm suburban Bangkok, still reeling from the election in America! Wow! Kind of lateral slides here, as what people are SUPPOSED to think and what the ARE THINKING seem to be wildly different animals...

You?

108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:07:07pm

re: #91 leftover54

I don't know if this guy has been a topic here before or not. I did a "search" here and I didn't see his name in the returns. This has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard from the Left (I avoid KOS) and I CAN NOT believe the Libs talk about Rush. I had to click out of the video 15 seconds into it. My Lib friend sent me the link with the caption: "gotta love this guy".
I can only hope he was joking and just trying to get a rise out of me.
I'd hate to think he listens to this stuff on a regular basis. It is delusional and the lack of rational thought is scary. They could make any of us out to be demons worthy of the death penalty or incarceration. Again, there is no hint of rational thought here. Pure propaganda indoctrination you'd expect to hear in the old Soviet Union, the Chinese "...Cultural Revolution" or "Gang of Four". Here is the link - have some Pepto handy - you're gonna need it:

Air America Hate Speech

ps - I read a newspaper story today about a local child molester. It was sickening to read. Still, I felt more "disturbed" listening to this this than by reading the molester story.

Mike Malloy is a moronic lunatic who has been fired from every regular radio station he's been on. Every one.

109 calcajun  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:07:32pm

re: #92 victor_yugo

The "Power Puff Girls" imagery comes to mind.

Not complimentary.

Ah, Asia. The land rhythm forgot. --PJ O'Rourke.

110 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:08:34pm

re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?

111 calcajun  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:09:03pm

re: #85 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Actually, she's the original support hose puppet.

And "sensible shoes" puppet. She is the crone imperial.

112 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:09:18pm

re: #102 Fenway_Nation

Not this time of year, although I stake my Celtic pride on the fact that there's somethin' Bruin.

I'd rather not be reminded of their last Habs game.

113 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:09:58pm

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?

Wasn't it a guy out of San Francisco? But I thought he was a former priest, not an attorney?

114 stevieray  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:10:12pm

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?

Is that a trick question?

I would guess "all of them".

115 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:10:30pm

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?


Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?

116 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:11:11pm

re: #115 shanec99

Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?

Yes. And plotting with an undercover agent that he thought was a 13 year old.

117 stevieray  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:11:20pm

re: #113 I heart the USA

Bernie Ward.

118 Rancher  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:11:31pm

re: #100 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

As bad as she is, she's a pro compared to Linda McCartney.

OK, I was being nice, try this.

119 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:11:37pm

re: #113 I heart the USA

Wasn't it a guy out of San Francisco? But I thought he was a former priest, not an attorney?

thats right, Bernie Ward, ex-priest, current inmate

120 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:22pm

re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Mike Malloy is a moronic lunatic who has been fired from every regular radio station he's been on. Every one.

That makes me feel slightly better, I really know very little - but I didn't realize until after I commented that this clip is 2 years old. Is he still drawing a paycheck somewhere? I've heard of him, but happily, don't know much about him (but the other clips on this YouTube page are pretty disturbing, too). And they say we need a balance for right wing radio - yeah, Hannity is so awful and vicious, with his Pledge of Allegiance and support of our troops, DAMN his vitriol.

121 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:34pm

re: #116 rawmuse
Good grief.
How do they get to such positions of prominence without a complete vetting.

122 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:46pm

re: #113 I heart the USA

Wasn't it a guy out of San Francisco? But I thought he was a former priest, not an attorney?

Ah, I'd have to google, and my unfortunate skills would probably prove inadequate, but I believe it was an ACLU attorney, in Virginia.

For once, both San Francisco and the Catholic Church were completely innocent. Hard though you may find that to believe!

123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:48pm

re: #97 capitalist piglet

I keep trying to turn you guys on to Wing, but so far, no takers.

OH. MY. G-D.

124 Syrah  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:12:57pm

re: #84 Dianna

I don't care. I was asking for other lizard's opinions about whether we are to assume that there is a woman, calling to her daemonic lover, or not.

From this part of the second stanza:

The passages incorporating these statements are rather separate; one is a simile, the other is a statement in the poem.

I'm irate. But I could easily be wrong.

I'm soliciting other opinions.

I meant no offense.

To answer directly. No. I don't think we are supposed to think that we are "to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover."

"e'er" is the key to that.

This is a line to ilustrate the primordial, dark and wild place, completely unrestrained by reason and wholly given over to the passions that is the chasm that is the well spring of that river.

Nothing more.

125 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:12pm

re: #117 stevieray

Bernie Ward.

Ah, that's right. I don't remember what happened with his trial, but I am glad no one has to listen to him anymore!

126 BigJohn  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:34pm

re: #89 Rancher

Try some Yoko Ono.

That had to be what was happening when John and Yoko were getting it on.

127 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:44pm

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Which lefty radio talker was an ACLU lawyer who was found to have copious amounts of kiddie porn on his hard-drive?

Bernie Ward was, but I don't know that he's a lawyer.

128 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:13:47pm

re: #115 shanec99

That was the story. We'll have to wait for the trial to determine the truth.

129 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:07pm

re: #81 pat


"To seek the sacred river Alph
To walk the caves of ice
To break my fast on honey dew
And drink the milk of Paradise...."

I had heard the whispered tales
Of immortality
The deepest mystery
From an ancient book. I took a clue
I scaled the frozen mountain tops
Of eastern lands unknown
Time and Man alone
Searching for the lost ---- Xanadu

Xanadu ---- To stand within The Pleasure Dome
Decreed by Kubla Khan
To taste anew the fruits of life
The last immortal man
To find the sacred river Alph
To walk the caves of ice
Oh, I will dine on honey dew
And drink the milk of Paradise

A thousand years have come and gone
But time has passed me by
Stars stopped in the sky
Frozen in an everlasting view
Waiting for the world to end
Weary of the night
Praying for the light
Prison of the lost ---- Xanadu

Xanadu ---- Held within The Pleasure Dome
Decreed by Kubla Khan
To taste my bitter triumph
As a mad immortal man
Nevermore shall I return
Escape these caves of ice
For I have dined on honey dew
And drunk the milk of Paradise


-Neil Pert.

130 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:09pm

re: #119 JeremiahRight

thats right, Bernie Ward, ex-priest, current inmate

Well that answers that question!

131 Meremortal  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:27pm

re: #97 capitalist piglet

I keep trying to turn you guys on to Wing, but so far, no takers.


*
I decided to try her version of Love Me do and I've been in hysterics and unable to type for about 5 minutes.

*whew*

132 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:14:34pm

re: #119 JeremiahRight

Are you sure that's the same case?

Or have there been so many that I've lost track?!

133 stevieray  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:15:03pm

sleep time

134 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:15:28pm

Ward, a former Roman Catholic priest whose KGO broadcasts included the Sunday morning "God Talk" program, "had an opportunity to think long, hard and deeply about the problems of child abuse" in the Catholic Church. Why, the judge asked, "when he encountered his own predilection (for child pornography), didn't he seek treatment, seek help?"

Ward pleaded guilty in May to distributing child pornography and admitted sending between 15 and 150 pornographic images by e-mail, which he said were part of research for a book.

135 quickredfox  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:15:47pm

re: #27 Dianna

OT:

In the opinion of other lizards, in "Kubla Khan", are we to think that there is an actual woman calling for her daemonic lover?

I would be happy to include a link to the 57-line poem, or just quote the significant lines.

I never took it that there was an actual woman, but rather, he is describing the wildness and craziness of the place.

But curse that person from Porlock (if he existed and wasn't just an excuse).

136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:15:59pm

Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!

137 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:16:28pm

re: #128 Dianna

That was the story. We'll have to wait for the trial to determine the truth.

Don't talk about it Lizards... or the MSM will claim that you are making a charge of guilt by association.

While all we are doing is talking about is a Liberal criminal.

138 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:16:52pm

re: #125 I heart the USA

Ah, that's right. I don't remember what happened with his trial, but I am glad no one has to listen to him anymore!

He was convicted.

139 pbird  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:16:53pm

re: #136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!

You have to wonder about the internal landscape that produces that stuff.

140 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:17:11pm

re: #115 shanec99

Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?

Yep, it is true. She fired him on the spot.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

141 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:17:45pm

Shit- I got lawyer and activist mixed up.

Bernie Ward sounds about right, tho'.

142 leftover54  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:19pm

re: #50 JeremiahRight

Yes.They started with "I" at 9pm EST time here - II is almost over now - I have to go to work tomorrow ! I'm a GF addict.

143 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:24pm

re: #124 Syrah

That was my opinion, too!

But then, I'm not an academic. I just read the poem.

144 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:36pm

re: #140 Lorenska

Yep, it is true. She fired him on the spot.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]


Thank God... well the Liberals did something right for a change.

145 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:18:48pm

Ward holds a master's degree in theology and spent two years in the priesthood before leaving to get married. He worked for three years as a legislative assistant for then-Rep. Barbara Boxer before joining KGO in San Francisco as a reporter in 1985. He became a talk-show host in 1992 and held forth on news and politics for three hours every weeknight, while discussing religious issues on Sunday mornings.

The station, which nicknamed him the "lion of the left" for his outspoken manner and liberal views, fired him in December after his federal grand jury indictment was unsealed.

Ward was investigated after a woman in Oakdale (Stanislaus County) contacted police in 2005 and said a former priest, later identified as Ward, had been having sex chats with her by e-mail and had sent her a photo showing child pornography.

Police got a search warrant for the online account and found about 100 images showing minors, some as young as 2 or 3, engaged in sexually explicit conduct, prosecutors said. They said Ward exchanged the pictures with a group of 10 people for about a year.

7 years in federal prison!
the whole story is here

146 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:19:27pm

re: #125 I heart the USA

Ah, that's right. I don't remember what happened with his trial, but I am glad no one has to listen to him anymore!

He got 7 years...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

147 Steve  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:20:56pm

Nite all. Sleeptime and recover from cold time. Ya all hve a nice day.

148 quickredfox  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:21:02pm

re: #143 Dianna

That was my opinion, too!

But then, I'm not an academic. I just read the poem.

As the saying goes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

149 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:21:09pm

re: #135 quickredfox

Thank you.

I've never felt easy with the person from Porlock, either. Some critics have absolutely shredded the story. I don't care.

I just like the poem, and object to the academics being idiots.

150 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:21:46pm

re: #145 JeremiahRight
Sounds like the "Lion of the Left" is gonna have a hard time being left alone by some angry inmates where ever he serves his time.

151 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:22:03pm

re: #144 shanec99

Thank God... well the Liberals did something right for a change.

Exactly - I live out here where Boxer is one of "my" officials and I can't stand her politics, but sure can't blame her for this one, she pretty clearly knew nothing. I was really afraid I was going to hear some "well, let's wait till all the facts are in" crap, but they just kicked his sick ass out, good riddance.

152 Meremortal  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:22:11pm

re: #136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!

Uh..uh...ahh...I can't believe I clicked on that after Love Me Do, I'm losing my mind. I...I think I need to order CDs from Wing! for all my friends!

153 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:23:52pm

re: #146 Lorenska

He got 7 years...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?

154 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:24:42pm

re: #145 JeremiahRight

The station, which nicknamed him the "lion of the left"

Lion? Lions are strong, fast graceful animals. Ward is a fat slob. My guess is the only reason he lived in SF was because of the numerous all you can eat Chinese buffets.

155 Syrah  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:24:53pm

re: #149 Dianna

Thank you.

I've never felt easy with the person from Porlock, either. Some critics have absolutely shredded the story. I don't care.

I just like the poem, and object to the academics being idiots.

I think that some "academics" make much of nothing just to justify themselves for have made nothing of much.

156 LeePro  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:25:12pm

re: #115 shanec99

Did a Barabara Boxers staffer get caught distributing kiddie porn. I heard that yesterday. Is it true?

re: #116 rawmuse

Yes. And plotting with an undercover agent that he thought was a 13 year old.

Yup.
Thanks to Lizard, Flying Dutchman!

157 quickredfox  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:25:19pm

I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.

158 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:26:56pm

re: #145 JeremiahRight

Ward holds a master's degree in theology and spent two years in the priesthood before leaving to get married. He worked for three years as a legislative assistant for then-Rep. Barbara Boxer before joining KGO in San Francisco as a reporter in 1985.

So if I'm keeping score correctly, Boxer has now had TWO employees busted for kiddie porn?!

159 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:26:57pm

re: #152 Meremortal

Uh..uh...ahh...I can't believe I clicked on that after Love Me Do, I'm losing my mind. I...I think I need to order CDs from Wing! for all my friends!

I wouldn't do that if I were you. Unless you want your friends to detest you.

160 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:27:01pm

re: #153 I heart the USA

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?

Oh my God, you read my mind....how much did we get to hear about Rush's stupid pain pill thing? As if that's even in the same PLANET of crimes, and it was reported on as if he had....well, as if he had molested a child. How do you spell liberal?

H-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e!

161 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:27:15pm

re: #153 I heart the USA

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?


This seems to have happened last Thursday. I suspect the MSM is still focused on Pres-elect Obama. They will get around to wall to wall coverage of things like this after January.

162 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:27:23pm

re: #153 I heart the USA

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Now why do I think that if it were a conservative talk show host, I would know every detail of the crime, the trial and the sentencing by heart because the MSM would have drubbed it into my head with non-stop coverage of the story?

Let's not forget that there was also an ACLU guy caught for the same sort of thing. There were a number of links last summer.

163 gmsc  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:28:03pm

re: #157 quickredfox

I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.

Interesting, especially considering that reading and dreaming are done on two opposite sides of the brain. Most people can't actually read in their dreams.

164 shanec99  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:28:26pm

re: #158 I heart the USA

So if I'm keeping score correctly, Boxer has now had TWO employees busted for kiddie porn?!

Are they both from San Fran?

165 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:29:07pm

I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?

166 Rancher  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:29:54pm

re: #145 JeremiahRight

Why, the judge asked, "when he encountered his own predilection (for child pornography), didn't he seek treatment, seek help?"

Because he didn't want to. So why the hell did the Judge say this?

Ward's case is a "personal tragedy," and a prison term may not be the best way to help him or the children exploited by pornography, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker said as he imposed the sentence in a San Francisco courtroom.

Typical, we need to help this perp? No, we need to protect the public and that is accomplished by putting him away forever. There is no rehabilitation for pedophiles, even castration doesn't work.

167 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:30:03pm

re: #165 rawmuse

Anywhere close to the Twin Cities?

168 gmsc  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:30:08pm

re: #165 rawmuse

I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?

I've tried it. They don't roll well at all.

169 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:30:23pm

re: #156 LeePro

Yup.
Thanks to Lizard, Flying Dutchman!

Why thanks to him? All he did was post a link here. Or am I missing something?

170 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:30:41pm

re: #157 quickredfox

I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.

It's a pity Borges is dead; you and he could have had a number of interesting conversations. Jorge Luis Borges

171 Mel Lono  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:31:22pm

re: #165 rawmuse

I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?

Raffle off a Nat Nash and I'm in.

172 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:31:24pm

re: #107 Karridine

Victor! Long thyme, no see!

Well, Sunday afternoon goes well in sunny, cloudy but warm suburban Bangkok, still reeling from the election in America! Wow! Kind of lateral slides here, as what people are SUPPOSED to think and what the ARE THINKING seem to be wildly different animals...

You?

Well, I'm recently unemployed, holding out for a job within my avocation. My landlord also has given me a job lead in his shop, covering for the guys who take vacation in the Thanksgiving/Christmas/deer season time frame.

Actually, thought, I was thinking specifically about the political climate there. Do you still see protests on your street corner?

173 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:31:36pm

re: #165 rawmuse

I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?

I'll bring my ball!

174 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:12pm

re: #167 Noam Sayin'

Anywhere close to the Twin Cities?

No. but I get up there every now and then. my wife has people there in Wayzata,

175 leftover54  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:17pm

re: #104 lorenska

I guess this guy must be well known amongst the Libs - I never heard of him or this level of insanity on the radio before. If I ever hear a right winger going off on tangents like this I'll say the same about them. I listened, when I could, to Rush and Hannity during the election cycle. There were a few close calls but they always pointed out when they were speculating. Hannity mentioned the other night that he "heard Ayers babysat for the Obamas" but that he had no proof. that truly bothered me. I actually shouted out loud "Then why did you say it". I want "truth" not rumor and innuendo. The "truth" we know about is enough, no need to create more. I do partially blame the MSM news "black out" for possibly pushing Hannity to the edge. Hell, we still know very little about this guy so every little tid bit is seized on.

176 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:17pm

re: #161 shanec99

This seems to have happened last Thursday. I suspect the MSM is still focused on Pres-elect Obama. They will get around to wall to wall coverage of things like this after January.

Actually, we're talking about Bernie Ward, who was sentenced on August 28th of this year. The Boxer aide thing was last Thursday...so many to keep track of, too few circles of hell for them all.

177 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:23pm

re: #160 Lorenska

How do you spell liberal?

Begins with an "S", ends with a "D", and has "TUPI" in between.

178 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:32:42pm

re: #173 Dianna

I'll bring my ball!

OK that's 4.

179 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:33:05pm

re: #162 Dianna

Let's not forget that there was also an ACLU guy caught for the same sort of thing. There were a number of links last summer.

ACLU's Charles Rust-Tierney Busted For Hard-Core Kiddie Porn

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

180 leftover54  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:34:32pm

re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Thanks for that - probably won't last here either (A.A.) then. Pheew !

181 Syrah  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:34:35pm

re: #157 quickredfox

I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.

I know this dream, or something of its like.

In mine I will do a task, knowing that I am in a dream state, thinking it is real and actually being done, while knowing that it is not.

That is a very strange place between dreaming and waking.

182 Dianna  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:34:50pm

re: #179 JeremiahRight

ACLU's Charles Rust-Tierney Busted For Hard-Core Kiddie Porn

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

That's the fellow!

I couldn't remember specifics.

Anyway, it's bed time.

Good night!

183 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:35:11pm

re: #157 quickredfox

I have never had an opium-induced dream, but I do have a dream every so often, wherein I am inside a library with many old books that I am thrilled to discover. I start to read one, and I could practically quote whole passages of it, then I wake up and within an instant it is gone, even the title. At times, in that twilight-zone state just before I wake up, I even think, I'm about to wake up, and I'll be sure to remember this, but then I do wake up and the details are gone all the same, only the general setting remains. So many books, so little time.

I strongly suggest you keep a notepad and pencil by your bed. As soon as you realize you've had one of these dreams, get up and write down every detail you can remember.

I had "vivid dreams" for a six-month period a few years ago. I set up a private weblog for them, so that I could go back to them later. I learned an incredible amount from them, including a very important lesson: "Pay attention to the signs."

184 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:35:59pm

re: #181 Syrah

I know this dream, or something of its like.

In mine I will do a task, knowing that I am in a dream state, thinking it is real and actually being done, while knowing that it is not.

That is a very strange place between dreaming and waking.

It is called lucid dreaming. A dream in which you are aware that you are dreaming.

185 BakaRanger  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:36:10pm

re: #136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wing "sings" AC/DC Listener discretion STRONGLY advised!

just peed myself...

186 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:36:33pm

re: #175 leftover54

I guess this guy must be well known amongst the Libs - I never heard of him or this level of insanity on the radio before. If I ever hear a right winger going off on tangents like this I'll say the same about them. I listened, when I could, to Rush and Hannity during the election cycle. There were a few close calls but they always pointed out when they were speculating. Hannity mentioned the other night that he "heard Ayers babysat for the Obamas" but that he had no proof. that truly bothered me. I actually shouted out loud "Then why did you say it". I want "truth" not rumor and innuendo. The "truth" we know about is enough, no need to create more. I do partially blame the MSM news "black out" for possibly pushing Hannity to the edge. Hell, we still know very little about this guy so every little tid bit is seized on.

Oh my God, we were listening and shouting together, I swear....I could not agree more, not only does speculation do NO ONE any good (like the crap about Obama being Muslim or being a non-citizen), but it gives the libs more ammo against the conservative commentators. All it would take would be one lib to grab that snippet from Hannity and, if it's not true, use it to impeach everything he's ever said, 99% of which is true and fair and responsible. They take stuff out of context easily enough, let's not give them something to aim at IN context! But at least he did quickly say he wasn't sure it was true....and during that same show, he was begging Ayers to come on and talk to him, to answer some real questions, I would truly buy tickets to that interview.

187 Meremortal  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:36:39pm

re: #159 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

*gurgle*

...................*Thud*

188 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:37:44pm

re: #180 leftover54

Thanks for that - probably won't last here either (A.A.) then. Pheew !

leftover54- I said regular radio station. Airhead America is not a regular radio station, unless you're a deranged simpleton.

189 LeePro  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:39:55pm

re: #169 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Why thanks to him? All he did was post a link here. Or am I missing something?

Yes, apparently you are missing something. Perhaps you are still too fresh-out-of-the shell, but around here, we are generally appreciative of each other... which includes kudos and hat tips for posting stories.

P.S.
I noticed that you've posted 42 stories yourself. How insignificant of you!

190 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:41:11pm

Morning {LeePro}, hows the lurking going. ;)

191 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:41:11pm

re: #164 shanec99

Are they both from San Fran?

I don't know, but aren't most of the freakshow stories out of San Francisco? And L.A. isn't far behind. I can't tell you how glad I was when we moved out of L.A. city limits, just so we could escape that septic tank.

192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:42:21pm

re: #179 JeremiahRight

ACLU's Charles Rust-Tierney Busted For Hard-Core Kiddie Porn

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

"The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One if the girls is described in court documents as being "seen and heard crying", another is described as being "bound by rope."

What a sick creep. I'm actually shocked ABC News covered this rather than covering it up.

193 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:43:31pm

re: #189 LeePro

Yes, apparently you are missing something. Perhaps you are still too fresh-out-of-the shell, but around here, we are generally appreciative of each other... which includes kudos and hat tips for posting stories.

P.S.
I noticed that you've posted 42 stories yourself. How insignificant of you!

But I don't imply that I had anything to do with them.

194 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:44:20pm

re: #191 I heart the USA

I don't know, but aren't most of the freakshow stories out of San Francisco? And L.A. isn't far behind. I can't tell you how glad I was when we moved out of L.A. city limits, just so we could escape that septic tank.

I'm about 80 miles outside of LA, up by Edwards AFB...still too close, but the military base proximity helps with the sanity quotient up here. And yes, I think SF has a lopsided number of the wingnuts, but this state as a whole is rather stuffed. It's a wonder the weight of all their self righteousness doesn't tip us right into the Pacific.

195 LeePro  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:45:05pm

re: #168 gmsc

I've tried it. They don't roll well at all.

LOL! ! !

I've heard the short ones do!

196 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:45:06pm

re: #192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

"The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One if the girls is described in court documents as being "seen and heard crying", another is described as being "bound by rope."

What a sick creep. I'm actually shocked ABC News covered this rather than covering it up.

yep. he also got 7 years in the federal slammer, must be the going rate

197 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:45:41pm

re: #192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

"The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One if the girls is described in court documents as being "seen and heard crying", another is described as being "bound by rope."

What a sick creep. I'm actually shocked ABC News covered this rather than covering it up.

I wonder if ACLU is going to offer him their services as defense counsel.

Sick piece of shit.

198 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:46:18pm

re: #123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

OH. MY. G-D.

This is like Florence Foster Jenkins.

199 leftover54  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:47:41pm

Gee, ain't this cute - just rec'd. from Lib friend. He is having his fun with me tonight. After reading Ozarks response to my post (Malloy) I realized said friend is having a ball twisting my gonads tonight. Here is another:

Iraq News
Chief: No evidence to justify Iraq war
Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:48 GMT
A report by Australia’s former military chief Admiral Chris Barrie pointed out that there was no evidence to justify going to war in Iraq in 2003. Barrie, who headed the Australian Defense Force at the time, made the comments during an interview for a new television series about former Prime Minister John Howard's decade in power.
“I have to say, even up until the day I retired, I never saw any evidence that said suddenly we had to go off and do a job in Iraq,” Barrie said, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) reported on its website. Read article in Arabic
Back
© 2007 Alsumaria Iraqi Satellite Network

I'm hoping this isn't a popularly held view in Iraq. Oh, this is the link to the short story:

Thanks Admiral...lay off the sea water !

200 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:48:13pm

re: #198 Moe Katz

This is like Florence Foster Jenkins.

I'm afraid to ask who that is.

201 Mel Lono  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:48:21pm

re: #194 Lorenska

Anywhere near Acton? Have sister watching fires nearby. Me too, but I'm on the beach.

202 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:49:41pm

re: #197 I heart the USA

I wonder if ACLU is going to offer him their services as defense counsel.

Sick piece of shit.

That is actually a really good question, I'm sure they did or would....I'm pretty sure they've defended NAMBLA on some bullshit "freedom of expression" grounds, so this would be like jaywalking to them. I think the ACLU was started with good intentions, many many moons ago, but now it truly is just a cesspool of liberal lawyers, defending anyone who hates this country and has no place in polite society.

203 Karridine  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:49:55pm

re: #172 victor_yugo

Nah, I'm no longer working near there... Don't have to see it every weekday... I'm quite sure the Pustulent Boil on the Butt of Democracy still holds their "Protest" in the government building, but other problems have eclipsed that AND our TV broke... We haven't heard of the Mob's dispersion from Government House... just that every appeasing move by the legitimate Thai government was met by "That's NOT enough!"

Its a weird atmosphere here, politically speaking, like "Everything's in Flux!"

Make sense?

204 quickredfox  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:50:01pm

re: #163 gmsc

Most people can't actually read in their dreams.

That is interesting, I didn't know that. This dream is based no doubt on actual instances where I *have* been in a library or used bookstore -- the books are always old ones -- and didn't have time to stay long and couldn't take the books with me (frustrating). I don't recall whether or not I've read in other dreams besides this one, but I've had this one several times in different versions.

205 LeePro  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:50:47pm

re: #190 BlueCanuck

Morning {LeePro}, hows the lurking going. ;)

Hi, {Blue}!
I'm fine. You?

206 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:51:35pm

re: #200 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm afraid to ask who that is.

She was this rich broad that wanted to be an opera singer but was just appallingly bad. It was never clear if it was a put-on or not, but people bought the recordings as humor. This is her famous recording of the Queen of the Night aria from Mozart's Magic Flute. The singer in the video isn't her.

207 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:51:55pm

re: #199 leftover54

"A report by Australia’s former military chief Admiral Chris Barrie"

When it comes to military leaders, I have more confidence in Cap'n Crunch than I do in Admiral Barrie.

208 Lorenska  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:11pm

re: #201 Mel Lono

Anywhere near Acton? Have sister watching fires nearby. Me too, but I'm on the beach.

Yep, just about 30 miles north of Acton, in Rosamond....Acton is about halfway between me and LA, actually, and it's beautiful, that's one of my favorite towns up here. Most of my surroundings are desert, kinda barren, but Acton is lovely. I'm JUST north enough to where the fires haven't affected me yet, but I assume I'll get some smoke tomorrow if the Sylmar one keeps building. Pretty scary stuff, it's like the whole state is on fire, I hope your sister stays safe. VERY jealous that you're at the beach, by the way! ;0 That's where I'd be if I could, I'll take waves over tumbleweeds anyday... I've got sand dune dreams on a joshua tree salary. :(

209 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:19pm

'night lizards! I will continue with a bowling meet up theme later.

210 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:23pm

re: #203 Karridine

every appeasing move by the legitimate Thai government was met by "That's NOT enough!"

Its a weird atmosphere here, politically speaking, like "Everything's in Flux!"

Make sense?

Yup. The fat lady isn't even warming up yet.

211 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:53:45pm

re: #206 Moe Katz

She was this rich broad that wanted to be an opera singer but was just appallingly bad. It was never clear if it was a put-on or not, but people bought the recordings as humor. This is her famous recording of the Queen of the Night aria from Mozart's Magic Flute. The singer in the video isn't her.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Before I click is she better than what's her wing?

212 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:54:37pm

re: #211 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Before I click is she better than what's her wing?

WORSE

213 Rancher  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:54:43pm

Yes is playing with Huckabee's band. I like the show.

214 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:54:52pm

re: #209 rawmuse

'night lizards! I will continue with a bowling meet up theme later.

You have bowling alleys in SF? They seem so "flyover country".

215 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:55:31pm

re: #206 Moe Katz

She was this rich broad that wanted to be an opera singer but was just appallingly bad. It was never clear if it was a put-on or not, but people bought the recordings as humor.

Kind of like Mrs. Miller?

216 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:55:34pm

re: #213 Rancher

Yes is playing with Huckabee's band. I like the show.

The band Yes- Chris Squire, etc.?

217 Karridine  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:55:39pm

re: #210 victor_yugo

How do we plan, on quicksand?
How do we MOVE, on quicksand?
How do we work, earn, SURVIVE... in quicksand?

Gaaak!

/bbiaw

218 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:56:58pm

re: #215 victor_yugo

Kind of like Mrs. Miller?

Yeah, but operatic.

219 I heart the USA  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:21pm

re: #202 Lorenska

That is actually a really good question, I'm sure they did or would....I'm pretty sure they've defended NAMBLA on some bullshit "freedom of expression" grounds, so this would be like jaywalking to them. I think the ACLU was started with good intentions, many many moons ago, but now it truly is just a cesspool of liberal lawyers, defending anyone who hates this country and has no place in polite society.

I can't argue with your assessment!

O'Reilly covered the NAMBLA-ACLU story pretty thoroughly. Does ACLU even make a pretense anymore of caring about the civil rights of anyone who doesn't share their political ideology? Let's ask Joe the Plumber...

220 LeePro  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:22pm

re: #193 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

But I don't imply that I had anything to do with them.

'Scuse me?

Where did I imply that he had anything to do with anything other than posting a story?!?!?!

eg:

...around here, we are generally appreciative of each other... which includes kudos and hat tips for posting stories.
221 Mel Lono  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:41pm

re: #208 Lorenska

Know Rosamond. Used to drive thru to Tehachipi. I remember the bar/stop at the corner with the only stop sign for miles. I like the desert, but then I was born in AZ.

222 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:58:50pm

re: #214 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You have bowling alleys in SF? They seem so "flyover country".

I know one with a sushi bar attached.

223 JeremiahRight  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:59:07pm

re: #204 quickredfox

That is interesting, I didn't know that. This dream is based no doubt on actual instances where I *have* been in a library or used bookstore -- the books are always old ones -- and didn't have time to stay long and couldn't take the books with me (frustrating). I don't recall whether or not I've read in other dreams besides this one, but I've had this one several times in different versions.

I heard the same thing a long time ago, that it's impossible to read text in a dream, but always wondered if its true, because I swear I have had dreams where I read something. Check out what i found, it looks like someone else out there has the same dreams as you:

Supposedly an impossible thing to do, since dreaming is done with the right brain, and reading is done with the left brain, and the one cannot create the functions of the other. This is almost accurate. During sleep, certain parts of the brain are inactive, including those responsible for making out forms of letters and words (parts whose failure causes disorders such as dyslexia or dysgraphia). However, this does not preclude reading, only making out the forms of letters and words.

There was a study on the relation of dreams to memory, in which amnesiacs who played heavy amounts of Tetris reported dreaming about the game. Any sufficiently intellectual addictive activity puts enough strain on the memory to affect a person's dreams. This is straightforward enough in the cases of games like Tetris or Devil Dice, but also applies to activities such as text-based MUDs or Everything.

In my days of psychological addiction to MUDS and to Everything, I have often dreamt of doing these things, as odd as that might sound to someone less neurotic. I sometimes dream about reading books, only to be disappointed when I wake up and realize that I can never figure out how the story ended, since it was being written by my subconscious and no hard copy exists. Once I dreamed that I nearly missed an important math test because I didn't have a ticket marked "5 pm" and everyone else did.

What is impossible in dreaming is the sense -- not the perception -- involved in reading. Therefore it is possible to read in a dream, but not to focus on actual letters and words.

224 BlueCanuck  Sat, Nov 15, 2008 11:59:55pm

re: #205 LeePro

Hi, {Blue}!
I'm fine. You?

Was feeling a little down and out earlier this week, but things are sort of looking up. Slowly filling the hole I was in due to my week off in October. I thought doing banking online was supposed to be faster. :)

/damn banks and their 70's mindset.

225 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:00:27am

Laughing Song from Strauss's Die Fledermaus

226 Rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:00:30am

re: #216 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
The drummer, a bass player, and whoever sang "Owner of a Lonely Heart".

227 victor_yugo  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:01:25am

re: #218 Moe Katz

Yeah, but operatic.

Oh, more like Anna Russell?

228 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:01:59am

re: #212 Moe Katz

WORSE

I don't know. I think she's better than Wing, Linda McCartney or Yoko Ono. But she did suck. All four of them sucked, sucked more, sucked way more, and stupid sucked. Rank'em the way you feel.

229 funky chicken  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:02:00am

re: #31 Steve

I am watching Cavuto and there are talking about Freddie May and Fanny Mac helping people who have missed 3 or more payments.

Question from Cuvoto: What will stop people from saying/doing, "I will miss 3 payments and let them help me." This even when these people can make their payments?

I just had this conversation today. A guy blew off his payments for a few months, and the mortgage company gave him a 4% 40 year fixed mortgate. Um, kinda sounds like a plan, doesn't it?

230 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:04:43am

re: #221 Mel Lono

I'm kinda partial to Tehachapi/Keene owing to the huge railway loop right there in the mountains.

231 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:05:01am

re: #226 Rancher

The drummer, a bass player, and whoever sang "Owner of a Lonely Heart".

That would be Chris Squire!

232 funky chicken  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:05:06am

Has Charles said if he's close to any of these fires? Or is he in San Diego County?

233 Palandine  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:05:51am

Gratuitous gun post.

Bought a maintenance manual for my new (to me) SKS this afternoon, then spent a fun and instructive evening taking it apart and cleaning it. Fair amount of dirt inside there, but nothing that didn't come off quickly, and the firing pin moves nice and easy. 1952 Russian Tula Armory, never been rebuilt. I love my new Commie gun, and am looking forward to shooting it.

/note to self--buy LOTS of cleaning patches

234 Lorenska  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:06:27am

re: #219 I heart the USA

I can't argue with your assessment!

O'Reilly covered the NAMBLA-ACLU story pretty thoroughly. Does ACLU even make a pretense anymore of caring about the civil rights of anyone who doesn't share their political ideology? Let's ask Joe the Plumber...

Oh, SUCH a good point...I didn't see anyone running to his defense when his entire life was ripped apart (illegally, I might add) for political gain. Can you imagine if the tables were turned? If he were a lib who had his license, tax, etc info pulled by a conservative? Jesus, the Supremes would already be hearing the case. If only he had a record of lewd acts with a child, I'll bet they'd have been right there for him...but being against socialism, well, THAT'S just too out there for us!

235 Mel Lono  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:06:36am

re: #230 Fenway_Nation

I'm kinda partial to Tehachapi/Keene owing to the huge railway loop right there in the mountains.

There's a restaurant in Keene with a layout. And an "apple' restaurant right on the line. Can't remember the name.

236 quickredfox  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:06:44am

re: #165 rawmuse

I was thinking of a lizard bowling meet up.
What do you think?

There is a bowling alley in my coastside town, just across the highway from one of the beaches. I always think of the oddness of a bowling alley with a lovely view.

237 Lorenska  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:08:03am

re: #221 Mel Lono

Know Rosamond. Used to drive thru to Tehachipi. I remember the bar/stop at the corner with the only stop sign for miles. I like the desert, but then I was born in AZ.

I guess I like it, too, but I was born and raised in Austin, TX....lots of hills and green and RAIN....that's what I miss most, the rain and the thunderstorms. I haven't heard thunder in about 10 years, and rain is cause for a national holiday in these parts. Now, Tehachapi, that is a lovely town - way higher elevation, so they get seasons and precipitation and stuff.

238 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:08:20am

re: #220 LeePro

Sorry. But the way you linked to it in your post seemed to me to imply that flying dutchman was the guy that broke the story, or at least was the reporter.

239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:09:21am

re: #232 funky chicken

Has Charles said if he's close to any of these fires? Or is he in San Diego County?

He said earlier they're not around him, although he had to change the route for his bike ride.

240 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:09:41am

re: #227 victor_yugo

Oh, more like Anna Russell?

Good!

241 funky chicken  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:10:05am

re: #98 Fenway_Nation

Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.

However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?

Could you come to Vegas and pick up a few neighbors of mine, and take them back to your home planet? They have an extremely obnoxious habit of getting drunk and then moving the party to their back patio after 11 PM. It's happened several times now, and I can't sleep because of it.

242 Macker  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:11:11am

re: #1 Salem

C'est la merde!

243 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:12:26am

re: #236 quickredfox

There is a bowling alley in my coastside town, just across the highway from one of the beaches. I always think of the oddness of a bowling alley with a lovely view.

Any sport you can play while drinking is okay me- Golfing, bowling, horseshoes, Jarts, Darts, Pool, shuffleboard, etc.

244 Mel Lono  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:13:58am

In Phoenix, we used to have the "water guy" come by twice a week to irrigate the lawn. Turned it into an 18" deep pool complete with dikes and debris. Loved it.

245 Macker  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:14:14am

re: #41 BigJohn

I'll probably check that out.

I won't. JJ Abrams is frakking with 40+ years of history. I hope this bombs like a son of a bitch!

246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:14:35am

re: #243 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Any sport you can play while drinking is okay me- Golfing, bowling, horseshoes, Jarts, Darts, Pool, shuffleboard, etc.

PIMF- okay with me.

247 victor_yugo  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:16:03am

re: #240 Moe Katz

If you liked that, you'll probably like this as well.

But that's just part 1 of 3, so be prepared to lose a half-hour of your life LYAO.

248 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:16:23am

re: #241 funky chicken

Could you come to Vegas and pick up a few neighbors of mine, and take them back to your home planet? They have an extremely obnoxious habit of getting drunk and then moving the party to their back patio after 11 PM. It's happened several times now, and I can't sleep because of it.

Dial 911 and your name is anonymous.

249 I heart the USA  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:16:43am

re: #234 Lorenska

Oh, SUCH a good point...I didn't see anyone running to his defense when his entire life was ripped apart (illegally, I might add) for political gain. Can you imagine if the tables were turned? If he were a lib who had his license, tax, etc info pulled by a conservative? Jesus, the Supremes would already be hearing the case. If only he had a record of lewd acts with a child, I'll bet they'd have been right there for him...but being against socialism, well, THAT'S just too out there for us!

The whole thing made me sick.

250 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:17:14am

re: #241 funky chicken

Could you come to Vegas and pick up a few neighbors of mine, and take them back to your home planet? They have an extremely obnoxious habit of getting drunk and then moving the party to their back patio after 11 PM. It's happened several times now, and I can't sleep because of it.

Sounds like they're from Fomalhaut D (the 'D' is for 'douchebag')- you're on your own, buddy.

251 quickredfox  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:21:26am

re: #223 JeremiahRight

addictive activity

That's a pretty good description of my relationship to reading.

Now I'm curious to look into this more, because in my memory of these dreams, I definitely was reading letters. I would browse the titles on the backs of the books, and pick out one to read, and I remember reading text, as opposed to having a general memory of the act of reading. But I also know that memory can be a funny thing.

252 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:23:08am

re: #247 victor_yugo

If you liked that, you'll probably like this as well.

But that's just part 1 of 3, so be prepared to lose a half-hour of your life LYAO.

I'm watching it. I'd heard of her as a child but this is the first I've actually seen.

253 Lorenska  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:23:37am

re: #249 I heart the USA

The whole thing made me sick.

It made me sick and scared...to think that all these agencies can just start digging your life up because they disagree with your politics? Are you kidding me? I mean, I'm not naive, I know stuff like this goes on, of course, but it was so blatant, and everyone was just so matter of fact and unapologetic for it - almost like, "well, he had it coming! he put himself in the public eye, so he's fair game now." Really? Standing in your front yard, and a candidate comes to YOU, and you ask him a question, that's putting yourself out there? And even if he had been the initiator of that contact, so what? In NO WAY does that make it ok for government agencies to start stripping apart your private details - and oh yeah, publicizing them! - to try to discredit you. What really irritated me was the lack of response from anyone in power - authorities, the media - even the conservative media wasn't as appalled as I thought they should be, it's like they've even started to give up the fight, they knew nothing would be done about it.

254 capitalist piglet  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:24:23am

re: #123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

OH. MY. G-D.

Thank you. My work here is done. ; )

255 leftover54  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:26:21am

re: #186 Lorenska

I suspect he regretted this as quick as the words came out of his mouth - but still...gotta be careful. These guys do talk 3 plus hours a day and its testament to their integrity that only once in a great while do they slip up.
You can tell Hannity "knows" there is a ton more to the story but its been so well hidden, he is just ready on edge 24/7 although he seems to be working on keeping himself on an even keel. What else can he do unless some journalist actually does their job. I've decided myself to find other outlets for my frustration and ways to occupy my mind other than politics - I do not want to make myself sick over something I can do little about.However, it takes only one e-mail from a friend to get me going. I have to work on that ! Discipline !

256 I heart the USA  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:27:10am

re: #253 Lorenska

At least the one state employee was suspended (but with pay, of course). I can't believe there hasn't been a conservative law firm willing to file a civil suit on his behalf. I hope it happens, though!

257 capitalist piglet  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:27:56am

re: #131 Meremortal

*
I decided to try her version of Love Me do and I've been in hysterics and unable to type for about 5 minutes.

*whew*

Yeah, the fact that they're all (or mostly all - I haven't looked around for any original material) cover tunes just makes it that much more fun.

Love me some Wing. : )

258 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:28:13am

re: #252 Moe Katz

I'm watching it. I'd heard of her as a child but this is the first I've actually seen.

She looks like Madeline Not-Too-Bright.

259 leftover54  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:28:57am

re: #207 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LOL !Do tell ! I need something to fire back - I've never heard of the guy !
Whatever happened to good ol Cap'n Crunch ? I used to like that guy !
We ARE showing our age !

260 leftover54  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:29:43am

Man, this is bad - 3:30am and I have to go to work today ! Nite all !

261 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:30:00am

Since Opera was being discussed, I have to say that I'll never be able to hear Sous le dôme épais without thinking of a dapper Christoper Walken shooting Dennis Hopper in the face three times and spitting on the corpse.

262 itellu3times  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:30:02am

re: #84 Dianna

Well maybe the reviewer is beng as hyperbolic as the text, suggesting that the simile is real.

263 LeePro  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:32:34am

re: #224 BlueCanuck

Was feeling a little down and out earlier this week, but things are sort of looking up. Slowly filling the hole I was in due to my week off in October. I thought doing banking online was supposed to be faster. :)

/damn banks and their 70's mindset.

Talk about depressing...
Just concluded 8th grade class reunion (Class of 1956). Everybody got old!

264 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:33:57am

re: #225 Moe Katz

Laughing Song from Strauss's Die Fledermaus

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Sir Edward Elgar's Pomp & Circumstance

265 Lorenska  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:34:25am

re: #255 leftover54

I suspect he regretted this as quick as the words came out of his mouth - but still...gotta be careful. These guys do talk 3 plus hours a day and its testament to their integrity that only once in a great while do they slip up.
You can tell Hannity "knows" there is a ton more to the story but its been so well hidden, he is just ready on edge 24/7 although he seems to be working on keeping himself on an even keel. What else can he do unless some journalist actually does their job. I've decided myself to find other outlets for my frustration and ways to occupy my mind other than politics - I do not want to make myself sick over something I can do little about.However, it takes only one e-mail from a friend to get me going. I have to work on that ! Discipline !

You're so right - I just imagine if I had a microphone, no WAY would I be able to restrain myself the way these guys do. And it sends me into fits n tizzies when I hear someone accusing THEM of being biased or hateful or whatever adjective they're using today.... what they say IS negative and hateful, of course. Because it's the TRUTH, and the truth about the left is negative, there's no way around it. That's what I always said when people said McCain was "going negative" with his campaign - well, when there is nothing nice to say about your opponent, but you're required to say SOMETHING, well, I guess it's going to be negative.

It is incredibly frustrating, and knowing that if it weren't for the internet, I would know about 2% of what I know is even more frightening, cause that means there are a lot of folks out there who are just truly in the dark - cause they only know what the MSM wants them to know, and they take it as gospel. And it's only going to get worse with the Dems in power - Fairness Doctrine, my ass. "Left Wing, 'Listen To Us, Dammit, You HAVE To Now!' Doctrine" is more like it.

266 leftover54  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:34:26am

Dang, I meant to ask this waaaay earlier. I finally took the plunge and went with Firefox. Anyone know how I can get a "button" up on the (a) tool bar to open "MS Outlook Express" ? I see no option for it. Also, when I click on a link
in an e-mail through Outlook Ex. it opens it in my old browser (Avent). I've looked all over for a way to make Firefox my default and must be looking in
all the wrong places ! I won't be back here until tomorrow night but if anyone can give me a hand with these two issues, i'd greatly appreciate it ! Now "Nite !

267 JeremiahRight  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:36:01am

my parting shot for the night:

Super Obama World! the video game

oh brother

"As Obama, you'll encounter Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue (where Sarah Palin spent thousands of dollars on outfits), dodge lobbyists wielding bags of money, and jump over pigs wearing lipstick. You can advance to the "Alaska" level and the "Republican National Convention" level"

268 Lorenska  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:36:20am

re: #256 I heart the USA

At least the one state employee was suspended (but with pay, of course). I can't believe there hasn't been a conservative law firm willing to file a civil suit on his behalf. I hope it happens, though!

I know, there just has to be a conservative law firm somewhere, right? In Ohio? Think of the publicity....maybe we should put a bug in the ear of someone who has some connections up there. Wasn't Joe Scarborough a congressman from Ohio? And he's a lawyer, he'd do it, I'd bet! Too bad they'd probably tie him up and throw him in the closet at MSNBC before he could make a call. :)

269 capitalist piglet  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:37:54am

re: #268 Lorenska

I know, there just has to be a conservative law firm somewhere, right? In Ohio? Think of the publicity....maybe we should put a bug in the ear of someone who has some connections up there. Wasn't Joe Scarborough a congressman from Ohio? And he's a lawyer, he'd do it, I'd bet! Too bad they'd probably tie him up and throw him in the closet at MSNBC before he could make a call. :)

I thought Joe Scarborough was from Florida. You might be thinking of that other guy - John Kasich? (Without looking it up...I'm not even sure how you spell his name, and I don't know that his background is in law.)

270 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:37:59am

re: #264 gmsc

Sir Edward Elgar's Pomp & Circumstance

Beautiful animation!

271 quickredfox  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:39:52am

re: #267 JeremiahRight

dodge lobbyists wielding bags of money

They're going to have to change this game already, now that lobbyists are openly okay with BO and his crew.

272 I heart the USA  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:40:00am

re: #268 Lorenska

I know, there just has to be a conservative law firm somewhere, right? In Ohio? Think of the publicity....maybe we should put a bug in the ear of someone who has some connections up there. Wasn't Joe Scarborough a congressman from Ohio? And he's a lawyer, he'd do it, I'd bet! Too bad they'd probably tie him up and throw him in the closet at MSNBC before he could make a call. :)

Scarborough is from FL (John Kasich is from Ohio). I didn't know Scarborough was/is an attorney. That would get press coverage! Or why not Laura Ingraham or Larry Elder? Maybe the ACLJ?

273 freetoken  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:41:02am

re: #266 leftover54

I'm trying out Firefox for a while... it is much more memory friendly than Safari (which leaks likes a sieve), but the speed can be slow, especially if you have many add-ons.

Speaking of which, go to the Mozilla site and look for add-ons about buttons. There are many add-ons that try to customize the Firefox interface.

274 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:41:02am

re: #270 Moe Katz

Beautiful animation!

It's from Fantasia 2000. If you've never seen the movie, I highly recommend it!

Each segment is a different classical piece, and done in a different style. My favorite is the Rhapsody in Blue segment, with Al Hirschfeld doing the animation!

275 Lorenska  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:41:20am

re: #269 capitalist piglet

I thought Joe Scarborough was from Florida. You might be thinking of that other guy - John Kasich? (Without looking it up...I'm not even sure how you spell his name, and I don't know that his background is in law.)

Yep, you're absolutely right, and I think you even spelled it right - my bad. I hate being wrong amongst lizaroids! Thanks for correcting me so gently. :) (On the bright side, MSNBC couldn't stop Kasich, could they?)

On that note, I've just proven I'm too tired to have a rational conversation with such an intelligent bunch, so I'm off to count the minutes before my 4 year old deems it morning. Nite all, stay safe and sweet dreams (and those of you who are out here in the Land of Flames with me, best of luck and prayers for the firefighters).

276 LeePro  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:44:10am

re: #238 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Sorry. But the way you linked to it in your post seemed to me to imply that flying dutchman was the guy that broke the story, or at least was the reporter.

Links in my post:
Yup. ← direct link to newsbuster story
Thanks to Lizard, Flying Dutchman! ← direct link to Dutchman's post.

You see, I didn't imply anything. You, on the other hand, inferred. See the difference?

277 Lorenska  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:44:41am

re: #272 I heart the USA

Scarborough is from FL (John Kasich is from Ohio). I didn't know Scarborough was/is an attorney. That would get press coverage! Or why not Laura Ingraham or Larry Elder? Maybe the ACLJ?

Oh, Larry Elder, good one! I already got corrected on my Scarborough mistake, dumb me, but Elder would be perfect, I would have voted him into office in a heartbeat, I listen to him whenever I can. And he is a lawyer, he'd be great. He actually answered an email I sent him once, so we're VERY close, you know - I'm sure I can get him to do it, I'll just drop him a line. ;)

It's been fun chatting with you, I love getting on here right before bed, it helps me remember I'm not the lone, sane conservative out here in la-la land, and gives me somewhat sweeter dreams. Which I'm off to have now....nite all, take care. :)

278 capitalist piglet  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:44:45am

re: #275 Lorenska

No worries, Lorenska - I'm often wrong, and boldly so. Good night, and you stay safe!

279 imploder  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:44:48am

Biscuits/gravy
Sausage/eggs

280 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:45:29am

re: #263 LeePro

Isn't it. Met with an old chum from my public school days and found out he's a grandfather. Very possible in the town we grew up in. Might be meeting up with my grad class of 82 for grade eight next year. Our old public school is being closed after over 100 years of use.

281 I heart the USA  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:45:54am

re: #275 Lorenska

Nite all, stay safe and sweet dreams (and those of you who are out here in the Land of Flames with me, best of luck and prayers for the firefighters).

I'm out, too. Making way for the late, late (or early, early) shift!

282 rboa  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:46:36am

My son just got back from seeing the new bond film. He was fairly disappointed with all the America bashing.

283 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:47:07am

re: #259 leftover54

LOL !Do tell ! I need something to fire back - I've never heard of the guy !
Whatever happened to good ol Cap'n Crunch ? I used to like that guy !
We ARE showing our age !

Cap'n Crunch is still around.

284 LeePro  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:53:14am

re: #280 BlueCanuck

Wow.

We took a bazzillion photos. Will post at Flickr or PhotoBucket as soon as I dump from camera & phone — sometime next week, prolly.

285 LeePro  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 12:59:40am

Okay, scaly buds.

Oldness makes one crave bedtime more and more...
G'nite, {good lizards} ...[bad ones, too, I suppose]

286 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:01:41am

Night {LeePro}. Weet dreams.

287 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:11:17am

I think a lot of lizards are recuperating after all the post election madness.

288 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:12:09am

re: #287 BlueCanuck

There was an election?

289 Egfrow  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:12:42am

Reconciliation and Independence:

A question and concerns of T.J. 1775:


DEAR SIR, -- I received your message by Mr. Braxton & immediately gave him an order on the Treasurer for the money which the Treasurer assured me should be answered on his return. I now send the bearer for the violin & such music appurtaining to her as may be of no use to the young ladies. I beleive you had no case to her. If so, be so good as to direct Watt Lenox to get from Prentis's some bays or other coarse woollen to wrap her in & then to pack her securely in a wooden box. I am sorry the situation of our country should render it not eligible to you to remain longer in it. I hope the returning wisdom of Great Britain will, ere long, put an end to this unnatural contest. There may be people to whose tempers and dispositions contention is pleasing, and who, therefore, wish a continuance of confusion, but to me it is of all states but one, the most horrid. My first wish is a restoration of our just rights; my second, a return of the happy period, when, consistently with duty, I may withdraw myself totally from the public stage, and pass the rest of my days in domestic ease and tranquillity, banishing every desire of ever hearing what passes in the world. Perhaps (for the latter adds considerably to the warmth of the former wish), looking with fondness towards a reconciliation with Great Britain, I cannot help hoping you may be able to contribute towards expediting this good work. I think it must be evident to yourself, that the Ministry have been deceived by their officers on this side of the water, who (for what purpose I cannot tell) have constantly represented the American opposition as that of a small faction, in which the body of the people took little part. This, you can inform them, of your own knowledge, is untrue. They have taken it into their heads, too, that we are cowards, and shall surrender at discretion to an armed force. The past and future operations of the war must confirm or undeceive them on that head. I wish they were thoroughly and minutely acquainted with every circumstance relative to America, as it exists in truth. I am persuaded, this would go far towards disposing them to reconciliation. Even those in Parliament who are called friends to America, seem to know nothing of our real determinations. I observe, they pronounced in the last Parliament, that the Congress of 1774 did not mean to insist rigorously on the terms they held out, but kept something in reserve, to give up; and, in fact, that they would give up everything but the article of taxation. Now, the truth is far from this, as I can affirm, and put my honor to the assertion. Their continuance in this error may, perhaps, produce very ill consequences. The Congress stated the lowest terms they thought possible to be accepted, in order to convince the world they were not unreasonable. They gave up the monopoly and regulation of trade, and all acts of Parliament prior to 1764, leaving to British generosity to render these, at some future time, as easy to America as the interest of Britain would admit. But this was before blood was spilt.

MORE:

290 Egfrow  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:14:11am

We need to watch and defend our speakers. They are all targets now.

291 Tigger2005  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:18:52am
292 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:19:33am

re: #291 Tigger2005

heh, I saw that earlier today. Very nice, especially the write up that came with it.

293 little blessing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:24:33am

re: #287 BlueCanuck

I'll say. LGF loaded so fast that my screen was smokin hot!

How is everybody?

294 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:26:32am

Morning little blessing. Looks like it's creeping up on fruit cup time. Me? I could be better, but at least I am not worst.

295 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:26:36am

The Secret Service called me one time. I had reported a death threat against Vice President Cheney and they called me back in under half an hour. It was pretty cool.

I'm not looking forward to future phone calls. Pat Dollard, someone I had respect for, lost it a few days ago by putting a picture of Obama with a target on his head on his website.

*sigh*

296 Salem  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:27:46am

re: #242 Macker

C'est la merde!

Look, the "canon" was the invention of deluded Trekkie dweebs. The third episode has a roguish Spock in a yellow shirt. The Klingons grew bumps on their heads, for crying out loud! Loosen your sphincter. Or not. The movie is going to make a frikking mint in spite of the shriekingly annoying anal-obsessed Trekkies.

297 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:30:57am

re: #296 Salem

Look, the "canon" was the invention of deluded Trekkie dweebs.

Yes and no. Some of it came from the TOS script bible, most mentioned in the series itself. And yes some of us are/were anal obsessed. But when Braga got his mitts on the franchise, it went down the tubes. personally I think DS9 should have been the last series for a long while.


/they killed the golden goose.

298 Salem  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:31:43am

No offense intended. But the fact that Trekkie purists are going to hate this film is a GOOD thing.

299 The Other Les  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:32:16am

re: #77 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

She can't be as bad as Linda McCartney singing!

So we're going to play that with the Yoko Ono CD's when we do interrogations at Gitmo?

300 Salem  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:38:34am

re: #297 BlueCanuck

Yes and no. Some of it came from the TOS script bible, most mentioned in the series itself. And yes some of us are/were anal obsessed. But when Braga got his mitts on the franchise, it went down the tubes. personally I think DS9 should have been the last series for a long while.


/they killed the golden goose.

I thought TNG had it's moments but I've only really been enthused with the original series because of the chemistry of the main characters. If this movie doesn't do that justice, I figure I can continue to indulge in my TOS DVDs until the pain subsides.

301 stuiec  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:39:19am

re: #282 rboa

My son just got back from seeing the new bond film. He was fairly disappointed with all the America bashing.

I predict that very soon, the moonbats will become incensed with all the foreign America-bashing that will still be going on -- or, in the case of Eastern Europe, intensifying (seeing as how we are going to make their lives a lot more precarious in the Obama Era). When it turns out that the rest of the world doesn't prostrate itself at the feet of Obama's America, the Lefties will be sooooo pissed.

302 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:39:25am

re: #300 Salem

I'm voting with my wallet. :)

303 The Other Les  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:42:19am

re: #233 Palandine

Gratuitous gun post.

Bought a maintenance manual for my new (to me) SKS this afternoon, then spent a fun and instructive evening taking it apart and cleaning it. Fair amount of dirt inside there, but nothing that didn't come off quickly, and the firing pin moves nice and easy. 1952 Russian Tula Armory, never been rebuilt. I love my new Commie gun, and am looking forward to shooting it.

/note to self--buy LOTS of cleaning patches

Good for you!

304 Salem  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:43:48am

re: #302 BlueCanuck

I'm voting with my wallet. :)

That trailer is playing with the New Bond film. It's a pretty safe bet that its box-office will cover the budget, at worst.

305 TheMatrix31  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:45:41am

re: #301 stuiec

I predict that very soon, the moonbats will become incensed with all the foreign America-bashing that will still be going on -- or, in the case of Eastern Europe, intensifying (seeing as how we are going to make their lives a lot more precarious in the Obama Era). When it turns out that the rest of the world doesn't prostrate itself at the feet of Obama's America, the Lefties will be sooooo pissed.

I noticed a little bit of it in the new Bond film but honestly, nothing too bad.

306 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:47:01am

Good morning mates, work woke me up early to deal with a minor network issue. Great, I am lying in dark and half asleep and the operators are unloading IP addresses on me. I tell them to call me back in five minutes and stagger into the computer room. They call back and it's no big deal. But I am awake and not sleepy. What's up?

307 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:47:16am

re: #304 Salem

Oh, yea. There will be the die hards that will go out to see it. I personally think it will be about as bad as ST:TMP.

308 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:48:14am

re: #306 LoFlyer

Definitely not the markets. ;) New Star Trek movie, yea or nay?

309 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:48:18am
310 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:48:48am

re: #305 TheMatrix31

I noticed a little bit of it in the new Bond film but honestly, nothing too bad.


I would be surprised if anything comes out of Hollywood that is not America bashing.
My heavens after Micheal Moore, Susan Serandon, Sally Fields, Clooney et al. what should a rational person expect?

311 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:50:52am

re: #305 TheMatrix31

I noticed a little bit of it in the new Bond film but honestly, nothing too bad.

You might enjoy this one, starts out a little slow and gets interesting about half way through. Man conquers Space! I mean its 5 PM in the morning, what do you have to lose?

312 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:51:50am

re: #309 gmsc

Yes, that was silly. Still it's pretty cool.

313 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:52:05am

re: #308 BlueCanuck

Definitely not the markets. ;) New Star Trek movie, yea or nay?

Gave up on Star Trek about 10 years ago. I do enjoy Piccard vs. the Borg though!

314 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:53:16am
315 least  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:54:41am

Four of us had to drive on PCH from Ventura to Santa Monica late this afternoon. The sun was low to the horizon and what with all the smoke from the brushfires -- it was spectacular! But what was equally amazing was the number of people along the road and on the beach with cameras. I predict a bumper cop of spectacular sunset photos.

316 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:54:54am

re: #314 shanec99

It was a good laugh.
LOL

Speaking of LOL, any one seen Little ol' lady this morning, mates?

317 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:56:13am

re: #316 LoFlyer

Speaking of LOL, any one seen Little ol' lady this morning, mates?

She should be here in about 5 minutes!

318 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:56:25am

Argggggggggggg!

319 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:57:50am

re: #317 gmsc

She should be here in about 5 minutes!

re: #318 littleoldlady

Argggggggggggg!

...or sooner.

320 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:58:01am

re: #318 littleoldlady

Argggggggggggg!

Ma'am, did some on put a burr in your bloomers, or peppers in your panties?
No need for anger to greet us.

Good morning by the way.

321 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 1:58:34am

re: #318 littleoldlady

Oh come on, it's not that bad is it? Good morning oh wonderous one, she who bears the cup of fruit that lizardim grovels for.

/take it you didn't win the power ball?

322 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:00:00am

Cup. Fruitcup.

Shaken. Not stirred.

323 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

324 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:01:39am

re: #318 littleoldlady

Argggggggggggg!

Morning LOL! Are you a fellow pirate?

325 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:02:08am

Trying to prevent computer from crashing before I serves the fruitcup.
No, I didn't win the PowerBall. :-( :-( :-(
(I could have used the money.)
Understatement of the year
My mood....is the same, I guess. :-/

326 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:02:08am

re: #323 littleoldlady

----> puts nuts next to the fruits.

After all we will be talking about California and the protests about prop 8.

327 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:03:02am

serves serve

La dee da!

328 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:03:33am

re: #325 littleoldlady

Trying to prevent computer from crashing before I serves the fruitcup.
No, I didn't win the PowerBall. :-( :-( :-(
(I could have used the money.)
Understatement of the year
My mood....is the same, I guess. :-/

The lotto is just a tax on people who are bad at math!
/waffles up!

329 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:03:47am

Nuts? We need more nuts around here?

;-)

330 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:04:45am

re: #329 littleoldlady

Nuts? We need more nuts around here?

;-)

That's part of my job requirements mate!

331 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:05:04am

re: #328 LoFlyer

The lotto is just a tax on people who are bad at math!
/waffles up!


At least its a voluntary tax... if I dont want to pay it I dont have to. I wish all of them were like that.

332 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:05:34am

November 16th:

Happy 101st birthday to the state of Oklahoma!

Remember Lisa Bonet from the Cosby Show and A Different World? She's 41 today!

Richard Nixon authorized the Alaskan pipeline 35 years ago today (Now if we could just get the oil authorized).

94 years ago today, the United States Federal Reserve Bank officially opened for the first time!

333 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:11am

re: #329 littleoldlady

Nuts? We need more nuts around here?

;-)


Are you asking about the protests regarding prop 8? Those nuts are going into church and screaming at worshippers.

334 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:11am

Every so often somebody wins the PowerBall...

/It's my turn, dammit!

335 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:58am

re: #333 shanec99

Yeah, they held up traffic in the middle of Philadelphia yesterday.

/oh joy

336 TheMatrix31  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:06:58am

re: #323 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning!

337 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:08:14am

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. Why is your computer on the edge of a crash?

338 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:09:24am

Fruitcup™!

339 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:09:27am

Okay, okay... ;-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Matrix! :-)

shanec99! :-)

gmsc! :-)

LoFlyer! Avast! :-)

Fenway! :-)

340 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:09:37am

re: #331 shanec99

At least its a voluntary tax... if I dont want to pay it I dont have to. I wish all of them were like that.

I was wondering 10 years ago what would happen if we had voluntary control of where our tax money is spent? The liberals could throw their taxes into socialism and the conservatives would finance defense and law enforcement. I wonder how the allocation would work out nowadays with the socialist indoctrination espoused in recent public education

341 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:09:51am

Sharmuta! :-)

342 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:10:55am

re: #341 littleoldlady

Sharmuta! :-)

Sharmuta deserves an extra fruitcup. I was mean to her the other night.

343 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:10:55am

re: #339 littleoldlady
Today I am about as ornery as a rattlesnake with bad constipation. So if you mess with me I will be on your butt like a Kimodo Dragon or Gila monster!

344 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:08am

re: #337 BlueCanuck

My computer self-schedules a couple of crashes a day.

/cosmic crashes

345 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:21am

Morning Sharmuta, on a regular shift tonight?

/real quiet and peaceful lately. Very few trolls.

346 Palandine  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:33am

re: #309 gmsc

OK, Now I think the creationists are just getting silly.

...

Damn Yankees! Is there no evil to which they will not stoop in the War of Northern Aggression Recent Unpleasantness?

///////

347 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:49am

re: #339 littleoldlady

Okay, okay... ;-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Matrix! :-)

shanec99! :-)

gmsc! :-)

LoFlyer! Avast! :-)

Fenway! :-)

Haar! Avast nothing mate! We are full speed ahead!

348 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:11:51am

re: #342 gmsc

Sharmuta deserves an extra fruitcup. I was mean to her the other night.

grrrr! *smack!*

349 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:12:04am

re: #341 littleoldlady

Good Morning!

350 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:12:43am

re: #343 shanec99

Today I am about as ornery as a rattlesnake with bad constipation. So if you mess with me I will be on your butt like a Kimodo Dragon or Gila monster!

Oh. Goodie.

;-)

Palandine! :-)

351 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:03am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Oh, that's not a bug. It's a window feature. ;)

352 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:35am

re: #344 littleoldlady

My computer self-schedules a couple of crashes a day.

/cosmic crashes

Like what kind of computer do you own, mate? What is the operating system?

353 little blessing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:39am

Wow. I think I'm going to sit in the corner and eat the fruitcup whilst finishing to type up these absurd Hand-overs.

/don't want to get hurt

354 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:13:52am

re: #349 Sharmuta
Shar... a pox on you... you say good morning to the Lil ol Lady and you ignore the one who loves you.

I hope you get fat and ugly with a big ole butt!

355 TheMatrix31  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:14:51am

re: #349 Sharmuta

Good Morning!

I wish I was singing in the rain. I'm coughing in the smoke.

356 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:15am

I seemed to have won this thread's powerball equivalent.

Not sure if that would translate too well into another casino visit, acting on that hot stock tip or purchase of presious metals.

357 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:22am

re: #346 Palandine

...

Damn Yankees! Is there no evil to which they will not stoop in the War of Northern Aggression Recent Unpleasantness?

///////

Paladine is channeling Senator Claghorn, apparently.

/You know why all the US rivers run south?
/They can't stand it in the north!

//Why do we have a North Carolina? Why not just call it Upper South Carolina? For that matter, why do we have a South Dakota up north?

358 Palandine  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:42am

re: #335 littleoldlady

Yeah, they held up traffic in the middle of Philadelphia yesterday.

/oh joy

They had a protest in St. Louis today. Missouri has had a gay marriage ban for 4 years.

Their contempt for the will of the people is appalling. Is there any doubt that there would have been riots ha Obama lost?

359 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:15:58am

re: #354 shanec99

Sorry- I was distracted by what my grandmother called "real entertainment".

360 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:16:06am

re: #354 shanec99

Shar... a pox on you... you say good morning to the Lil ol Lady and you ignore the one who loves you.

I hope you get fat and ugly with a big ole butt!

Haar, can you pass the excess butt over to me? 'me second love declared me TNA, Terminal No Ass

361 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:16:11am

re: #348 littleoldlady

grrrr! *smack!*

See, Sharmuta? littleoldlady is straightening me out!

362 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:16:20am

re: #355 TheMatrix31

I wish I was singing in the rain. I'm coughing in the smoke.


Serves you right for living in the land of fruits and nuts. I guess roasted peanuts are not that bad.

363 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:16:43am

re: #355 TheMatrix31

It's been so long since I've watched that clip.

Hope you stay safe, Kiddo!

364 Palandine  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:17:23am

littleoldlady!

Waiting for the Ambien to kick in. Won't be here long. Good to see you.

365 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:18:05am

re: #359 Sharmuta

Hrumph... apology not accepted. (Pouting)

366 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:19:26am

re: #361 gmsc

Where I come from we don't discuss Smurf choking.

367 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:20:48am

re: #366 Sharmuta

Where I come from we don't discuss Smurf choking.

I won't bring it up again.

Forgive me?

368 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:21:15am

Something for the Bond fans Johnny Rivers!

369 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:22:11am

re: #360 LoFlyer

Haar, can you pass the excess butt over to me? 'me second love declared me TNA, Terminal No Ass


Better than being tagged on the highway with a sign that says wide load.
Had to sit on a flight from Addis Ababa to Nairobi next to a fat assed English woman... good lord... she was about 5'1" and must have weighed about 300 pounds.
Talk about body odor... if she were going on Safari... the scavengers would have been forced to come over and take notice.

370 gmsc  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:26:14am

I'll tell you what, Sharmuta. I'll give you the night to think about it.

Good night all!

371 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:26:19am

OK I have said all the mean things I will be saying for the day. Good, that was cathartic.
The bad Shane has been banished for the day. Hey, can someone find a halo?
Good morning all.

372 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:27:04am

re: #371 shanec99

I would give you mine, but it's a little tarnished.

373 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:28:00am

Wow, that one was more painful than usual... :-(

I'm back!

/did you miss me?

374 TheMatrix31  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:28:23am

re: #363 Sharmuta

It's been so long since I've watched that clip.

Hope you stay safe, Kiddo!

Thanks....the fires are nowhere near my area (closest one is about 15-20 miles north of my neighborhood. However, the wind is blowing all the smoke and ash all over the city and suburbs. It's disgusting outside, and freakin' hot too.

375 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:29:34am

re: #373 littleoldlady

Wow, that one was more painful than usual... :-(

I'm back!

/did you miss me?

I was gonna say something mean...
but I am trying to beat back bad ole Shane.
Someone find me a shiny halo please... or I wont be able to beat back the devil in me.

376 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:31:21am

re: #373 littleoldlady

Of course we did! Just like we missed good shane, and red's hijinxed fruitcups.

377 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:32:28am

re: #375 shanec99

Okay.

378 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:32:35am

re: #373 littleoldlady

At the speed the thread has been moving tonight it's easy to miss some people. But we will never miss your wit. ;)

/Me? Out and about cruising the web looking for gems, but only finding other items.

379 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:33:13am

re: #369 shanec99

Better than being tagged on the highway with a sign that says wide load.
Had to sit on a flight from Addis Ababa to Nairobi next to a fat assed English woman... good lord... she was about 5'1" and must have weighed about 300 pounds.
Talk about body odor... if she were going on Safari... the scavengers would have been forced to come over and take notice.

You want believe this one mate, but I have a story just as bad! 'Me ex-wife and me had a wonderful honeymoon on a 5 day cruise. At one of the ports of call, we made arrangements for a submarine excursion exploring the local reef that cost us 75 bucks apiece, The sub would hold about 75 and dived to about 100 feet with fairly large portholes to observe Davey Jones locker. Unfortunately 'me two seat-mate's were huge 300 pound porkers that would wipe out a Golden corral buffet in one sitting. I ended sitting on the arm-rest next to 'me wife the entire trip. The only reason I didn't erupt was that I didn't want to upset me new wife!

380 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:34:42am

re: #376 Sharmuta

Of course we did! Just like we missed good shane, and red's hijinxed fruitcups.

----> being good, I promise.

381 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:35:59am

re: #378 BlueCanuck

Real gems? As in, rubies and emeralds?

382 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:37:21am

re: #379 LoFlyer

You want believe this one mate, but I have a story just as bad! 'Me ex-wife and me had a wonderful honeymoon on a 5 day cruise. At one of the ports of call, we made arrangements for a submarine excursion exploring the local reef that cost us 75 bucks apiece, The sub would hold about 75 and dived to about 100 feet with fairly large portholes to observe Davey Jones locker. Unfortunately 'me two seat-mate's were huge 300 pound porkers that would wipe out a Golden corral buffet in one sitting. I ended sitting on the arm-rest next to 'me wife the entire trip. The only reason I didn't erupt was that I didn't want to upset me new wife!

No comment... being good. But I could tell you a story about Negril Beach Village (Hedonism II), its a nudist colony in Jamaica... but I am being good, so I wont talk about my young and wayward days.

383 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:37:27am

re: #381 littleoldlady

Ah, I wish. looking for knowledge. It's worth more then gold and diamonds sometimes.

/still looking for ways to make it payoff. :(

384 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:40:38am

re: #382 shanec99

No comment... being good. But I could tell you a story about Negril Beach Village (Hedonism II), its a nudist colony in Jamaica... but I am being good, so I wont talk about my young and wayward days.

I gave up on being good years ago. I just want to be real. Having a lot of fun being 'me-self nowadays. Work hard, play hard!

385 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:44:30am

re: #383 BlueCanuck

Ah, I wish. looking for knowledge. It's worth more then gold and diamonds sometimes.

/still looking for ways to make it payoff. :(

Funny. I'm in the middle of Epiphany Week. And my Realization du Jour is that one of the reasons I'm spinning my wheels is that I don't know how to build a webpage.

Oh, I could probably get a template and do a blech job of it, but I don't know how to make a page that looks the way I want it to and does what I want it to.

/ya see...if I'd won the Powerball I could afford to hire someone. :-(

386 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:49:29am

re: #385 littleoldlady

Funny. I'm in the middle of Epiphany Week. And my Realization du Jour is that one of the reasons I'm spinning my wheels is that I don't know how to build a webpage.

Oh, I could probably get a template and do a blech job of it, but I don't know how to make a page that looks the way I want it to and does what I want it to.

/ya see...if I'd won the Powerball I could afford to hire someone. :-(

Some times its better to remain anonymous LOL!

387 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:49:34am

re: #385 littleoldlady

Some of the dummy books, and complete idiot guides would be a good start. I used "The Complete Idiots Guide to HTML" when I was taking computer programming back in college. It was cheaper and better then the text book we had to use.

/and more informative then the bloody teacher.

388 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:49:44am

What are the Libs gonna argue now that the Iraqi government has asked us to stay until 2011?
Are they still gonna say that Iraqis want us to leave?
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

389 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:51:42am

re: #386 LoFlyer

Some times its better to remain anonymous LOL!

No chance of that!

/my parents named me littleoldlady
//how did they know?!

390 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:52:46am

re: #387 BlueCanuck

Some of the dummy books, and complete idiot guides would be a good start. I used "The Complete Idiots Guide to HTML" when I was taking computer programming back in college. It was cheaper and better then the text book we had to use.

/and more informative then the bloody teacher.

You would not believe how many XXXX for dummies I have seen on the shelves of IT professionals, mates.

391 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:55:02am

re: #389 littleoldlady

No chance of that!

/my parents named me littleoldlady
//how did they know?!

They knew we all faced death and taxes! That makes you old, fast.

392 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:56:18am

re: #387 BlueCanuck

Hmmm. A book. Didn't think of that! (DUH.) I've been trying to find tutorials on the web.

Thanks!

393 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:56:57am

re: #390 LoFlyer

Wouldn't surprise me at all. With the amount of knowledge you would need to know, you can't memorize it all. One thing I understood before I melted down.

394 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 2:57:43am

re: #392 littleoldlady

There are a lot of good tutorials on the net. At home I think I have a bunch bookmarked from back in the day.

395 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:05:39am

re: #393 BlueCanuck

Wouldn't surprise me at all. With the amount of knowledge you would need to know, you can't memorize it all. One thing I understood before I melted down.

It would be nice if we produced a "life for dummies" book to avoid getting getting knocked up at fifteen or gaining a bad drug habit. Perhaps a parent wielding a 2X4 might have some effect, but parents are becoming more and more distant from their offspring. Our society is declining because we are neglecting our children. I am not talking about financial neglect, this is educational and emotional neglect by parents who should not of born children in the first place.

396 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:08:27am

re: #395 LoFlyer

One of the problems is that there's no decent Parents' Manual or documentation out there. I asked for one in the hospital after I had MNTS, but all they said was, "Here, let us show you how to change a diaper."

/thanks. I really could have figured that out for myself...

397 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:14:32am

re: #396 littleoldlady

One of the problems is that there's no decent Parents' Manual or documentation out there. I asked for one in the hospital after I had MNTS, but all they said was, "Here, let us show you how to change a diaper."

/thanks. I really could have figured that out for myself...

Arr! Never had a child 'me-self! But I do have experience with children and was one a while back. They are all good, you just have to provide some guidance!

398 Athos  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:14:56am

re: #390 LoFlyer

You would not believe how many XXXX for dummies I have seen on the shelves of IT professionals, mates.

And, you wouldn't believe how many dummies I've seen within IT.......

399 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:17:30am

So....do I need a program (like Dreamweaver) to do this?

And am I better off on the PC or the mac?

And if anyone here knows this stuff...does QuarkXpress have a web design module? because I already know how to use Quark.

400 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:18:21am

re: #398 Athos

And, you wouldn't believe how many dummies I've seen within IT.......

You wouldn't believe how many I have seen in IT management mate! I will say this for the present, I am extremely pleased with 'me immediate and upper management. We have been through some tough times and all have pressed on!

401 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:23:04am

re: #399 littleoldlady

So....do I need a program (like Dreamweaver) to do this?

And am I better off on the PC or the mac?

And if anyone here knows this stuff...does QuarkXpress have a web design module? because I already know how to use Quark.

I have no experience in web design LOL, do a search on free do it your self web design and see what you come with. There is a lot of stuff available for free..

402 Athos  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:24:44am

re: #400 LoFlyer

You wouldn't believe how many I have seen in IT management mate! I will say this for the present, I am extremely pleased with 'me immediate and upper management. We have been through some tough times and all have pressed on!

I was referencing more of the mgmt side than not....and I'm in the mgmt side so I have the PoV towards it.

That's ultimately the secret - finding a good mgmt team and philosophy.....which seems, remarkedly, to go hand in hand with success.

Of course, success is a bad thing these days, what with companies wanting to become banks to collect a share of the 700 billion....

403 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:29:20am

re: #402 Athos

I was referencing more of the mgmt side than not....and I'm in the mgmt side so I have the PoV towards it.

That's ultimately the secret - finding a good mgmt team and philosophy.....which seems, remarkedly, to go hand in hand with success.

Of course, success is a bad thing these days, what with companies wanting to become banks to collect a share of the 700 billion....

It's kinda crazy nowadays, and stats show Americans are not spending nothing in the current crises. Extremely difficult to justify saving an entity that just delivered obscene profits to upper management.

404 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:35:09am

Oh, dear. I drifted away without saying goodbye.

Goodbye! :-)

405 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:39:17am

re: #404 littleoldlady

Bye littleoldlady. Have a fun day.

406 LoFlyer  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:40:13am

re: #404 littleoldlady

Oh, dear. I drifted away without saying goodbye.

Goodbye! :-)

G'night LOL! BBl mates.

407 shanec99  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:40:16am

re: #404 littleoldlady
By everyone, gotta go, I need to enjoy a bit of the afternoon east African sun.

408 yochanan  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:40:27am

re: #82 Moe Katz

Fenway Nation is a REDSox puppet.

fixed that for you we got our sox THE GREAT AND WONDERFUL WHITE SOX the only professional baseball team in chicagostan

409 Athos  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:45:53am

re: #404 littleoldlady

Night LoL - take care!

410 Athos  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 3:48:07am

re: #408 yochanan

fixed that for you we got our sox THE GREAT AND WONDERFUL WHITE SOX the only professional baseball team in chicagostan

I don't know - Chicago, the land of the One.....and the team of the south side too.........

/guilt by association

411 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:21:50am

Good Morning LGF.

412 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:22:10am

*tap tap tap* Testing, testing. Are we live? Or is this memorex?

413 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:23:41am

Morning Spare O'Lake. How's the weather in your neck of the woods?

414 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:31:05am

Bah rancher needs to be strung up now for posting links to yoko ono. And those that posted wing and linda links are next on the block for war crimes charges thats just cruel and unusual.

Rustler

415 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:31:44am

Good morning lizards.
All two of you, looks like!
Now 3

Spare O'Lake - do you have a second nic, Sparrow Lake?

416 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:32:53am

Morning Rustler. That's actually becoming a time honoured tradition around here. Who can find the most painful piece of music on youtube. Of course he could have scored more points if he hadn't tipped his hand in the post.

417 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:33:35am

Good Morning Lizards...

418 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:34:06am

BBIAB I'm now documenting all the ways I fail at life in attempt to get onboard the whole bail out bus. Does an involuntary medical discharge from the military look good in my favor in an Obama admin since I was regected by the Army or does the whole honorable discharge and fact i wanted to stay in hurt me. Damn the things I'm gonna need to contemplate.....Head hurts to much work screw it./////

419 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:36:47am

re: #412 BlueCanuck

*tap tap tap* Testing, testing. Are we live? Or is this memorex?

This...is...a...recording...do...not...adjust...yo ur...whatever...
L...O...L...

420 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:38:32am

re: #413 BlueCanuck

Morning Spare O'Lake. How's the weather in your neck of the woods?

Good morning BC.
It's crappy here.
And the weather's not so good either...

421 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:38:49am

Whoa!
Room filling up fast.
Morning HH, Rancher

422 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:38:57am

Morning HH. Welcome to the life support thread.

/I know it's cold outside, no need for us to be acting like molasses.

423 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:41:34am

re: #415 reine.de.tout

Good morning lizards.
All two of you, looks like!
Now 3
Spare O'Lake - do you have a second nic, Sparrow Lake?

In Canada we don't have the Fifth Amendment.
I'll take number 5 instead - with whole wheat please.
:D

424 Rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:41:50am

Just gotta love Sarah Palin

425 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:43:24am

re: #421 reine.de.tout

Whoa!
Room filling up fast.
Morning HH, Rancher

Morning..waiting for coffee to brew..yawn

426 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:43:54am

re: #423 Spare O'Lake

Hmmm, I believe that you live near my old stomping grounds. Relatively speaking.

/or have we had this convo before?

427 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:45:36am

Morning Hoosier, Spare and Reine

428 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:46:47am

Bah I lose at imbedding links.

429 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:47:33am

re: #427 rancher

Morning Hoosier, Spare and Reine

Good Morning rancher

430 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:47:50am

re: #414 rancher

Bah rancher needs to be strung up now for posting links to yoko ono. And those that posted wing and linda links are next on the block for war crimes charges thats just cruel and unusual.
Rustler

Here's the only good Yoko song I know.

431 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:48:39am

re: #425 HoosierHoops

Morning..waiting for coffee to brew..yawn

They have, nowadays, coffepots with things called timers.

You can set the timer so that the coffee is ready when you get up!
Technology is amazing. HH, think about investing in one of those timer thingies LOL.

My coffee was ready when I opened my eyes. No waiting.

432 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:48:43am

re: #430 Spare O'Lake

Here's the only good Yoko song I know.

LOL, only reason it's good is because she doesn't sing it.

433 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:48:47am

re: #430 Spare O'Lake

Here's the only good Yoko song I know.

I'm not falling for that one again...

434 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:50:03am

re: #426 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, I believe that you live near my old stomping grounds. Relatively speaking.
/or have we had this convo before?

Was that Bathurst and Lawrence? ;D

435 Geepers  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:52:31am

reine.de.tout (#431),

My coffee was ready when I opened my eyes. No waiting.

The magic of the Obama administration is beginning already!

436 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:54:15am

re: #431 reine.de.tout

LOL
Almost ready...didn't think of making coffee when we got home last night/morning.
Had a lot of fun with some of our friends...
Come on coffee! damn it takes for friggin forever!

437 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:54:38am

re: #434 Spare O'Lake

Nope, that's my new stomping grounds. I lived in Central Ontario. Used to attend PSCI in my high school years.

438 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:56:10am

re: #433 HoosierHoops

I'm not falling for that one again...

YOU GOT ME .

439 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:58:00am

re: #435 Geepers

reine.de.tout (#431),

The magic of the Obama administration is beginning already!

Yep LOL
and HH needs to get with the program

440 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 4:59:48am

Billy Mays on TV selling the "Handy Switch" with a powerful radio frequency that lets you control any lamp up to 50 feet away.

This stuff always looks good to me, and I always want to order it.
The minute these ads start playing, the Roi tells me, "NO, you can't have it".

Darn. It looks good, and they will double the offer!

441 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:00:09am

re: #437 BlueCanuck

Nope, that's my new stomping grounds. I lived in Central Ontario. Used to attend PSCI in my high school years.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Here ya go.

442 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:01:25am

re: #440 reine.de.tout

Have you seen his ad for the glue? I'm not sure what to think about tearing a flag, gluing it and then sticking it in a wind chamber just to show how good the glue works.

443 bp sf  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:02:15am

The Handy Switch is briiliant! Sticks to the wall and controls a lamp or whatever. Highly recommended.

444 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:03:12am

re: #442 MandyManners

Have you seen his ad for the glue? I'm not sure what to think about tearing a flag, gluing it and then sticking it in a wind chamber just to show how good the glue works.

OOOH - That's another one I want.
The Roi wears his clothes until they are so old the fabric has dry-rotted.
Then asks me to repair them.
Now, I don't mind doing the repairs, but you can't repair that which no longer exists in any shape or form.
I thought I might try the glue.

And the sham-wow.
I've come so close to that one. ..

445 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:03:46am

re: #443 bp sf

The Handy Switch is briiliant! Sticks to the wall and controls a lamp or whatever. Highly recommended.

You own a double order of this product?

446 bp sf  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:05:14am

Bought one at the mall; didn't get the TV "wait, there's more!" offer.
$14 for 1.

447 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:05:17am

re: #445 reine.de.tout

You own a double order of this product?

BUT WAIT!

448 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:07:18am

re: #446 bp sf

Bought one at the mall; didn't get the TV "wait, there's more!" offer.
$14 for 1.

Hmm.
In Tennessee, I see a lot of these "As Seen on TV" stores. Haven't ever seen one here where I am.

The "extra postage" for the 2nd set of these things is always double or triple the postage for the first one. I know from experience. You really can't win.

449 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:07:22am

re: #445 reine.de.tout

Don't you have "As Seen On T.V." stores in your area?

450 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:07:40am
451 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:08:37am

re: #444 reine.de.tout

What about using the flag just to sell that glue? Someone had to deliberately tear it.

452 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:09:57am

re: #451 MandyManners

What about using the flag just to sell that glue? Someone had to deliberately tear it.

Well, you're right. They probably should have used a generic flag.

453 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:10:41am

re: #442 MandyManners

Have you seen his ad for the glue? I'm not sure what to think about tearing a flag, gluing it and then sticking it in a wind chamber just to show how good the glue works.

I'm pretty sure his irritating beard is stuck on with that stuff.

454 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:11:29am

re: #452 reine.de.tout

Well, you're right. They probably should have used a generic flag.

Or, a pair of jeans.

455 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:11:52am

re: #453 Spare O'Lake

I'm pretty sure his irritating beard is stuck on with that stuff.

I'd hate to see that stuff wind up on his lips.

456 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:12:13am

re: #445 reine.de.tout

You own a double order of this product?

My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot

457 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:12:39am

re: #449 BlueCanuck

Don't you have "As Seen On T.V." stores in your area?

Nope. They seem to all be in Tennessee

We go to Tenn to visit sis-in-law.
I love Waffle House. On one trip, we came to an interstate intersection that had a Waffle House at each one of the 4 exits.
The Roi told me I'd hit a gold mine LOL.

458 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:13:20am

re: #455 MandyManners

I'd hate to see that stuff wind up on his lips.

Oh sure you say that now. But after a week of endless reruns and then nothing, you would be thankful. ;)

/unless they found some one even more annoying. Richard Simmons maybe?

459 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:13:51am

re: #456 HoosierHoops

My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot

Oh, I hope he's OK!
My dog used to chew the wood furniture. I started putting a couple of drops of tabasco sauce where he chewed, but where it wouldn't stain or be seen.
Cured him real quick.

460 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:14:36am

re: #458 BlueCanuck

Oh sure you say that now. But after a week of endless reruns and then nothing, you would be thankful. ;)

/unless they found some one even more annoying. Richard Simmons maybe?

I'd have a fit of the screamin' meemies.

461 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:15:23am

on A&E the biography of Janus Joplin is on.
What a waste..

462 bp sf  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:15:40am

Four Waffles Houses at one Interstate exit?

Where is this Redneck Mecca exactly?

463 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:16:12am

re: #456 HoosierHoops

My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot

My sister had a dog that ate socks. Very interesting deposits in the back yard.

464 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:16:20am

McIlhenny's Tabasco from Avery Island, LA

You can tour the original facility, which is still used to make tabasco. Place smells great. Like a big bottle of Tabasco.

465 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:17:16am

re: #463 MandyManners

Best, our mutt once ate a large box of Crayola crayons. Funniest part was it was the middle of the winter.

466 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:17:37am

re: #462 bp sf

Four Waffles Houses at one Interstate exit?

Where is this Redneck Mecca exactly?

heehee.
It's a secret.
Actually, I can recall the exact location, but it wasn't the only one.
We were on the interstate (can't recall which one) just past Chattanooga and came across this place.

467 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:17:59am

re: #459 reine.de.tout

Oh, I hope he's OK!
My dog used to chew the wood furniture. I started putting a couple of drops of tabasco sauce where he chewed, but where it wouldn't stain or be seen.
Cured him real quick.

I guess he doesn't get any more tennis ball toys..he chews the fuzz off...

468 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:18:16am

re: #456 HoosierHoops

My dog just threw up part of a tennis ball..what an idiot

The great thing about my dog is that she somehow manages to barf up most of the foreign matter she manages to swallow.
Unfortunately it's usually on the carpet!

469 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:21:19am

re: #465 BlueCanuck

Best, our mutt once ate a large box of Crayola crayons. Funniest part was it was the middle of the winter.

My cat once ate a mop string. Didn't know it until it was ready to be expelled, but it was only partially expelled. Daughter was about 6, told me there was something wrong with the cat. I put on my handy-dandy plastic gloves and tugged - cat went nuts. Called the Vet Emergency Center - they immediately said whatever you do, don't pull!
GAH.
It all ended up OK, but was a really strange day.

470 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:21:57am

re: #465 BlueCanuck

Best, our mutt once ate a large box of Crayola crayons. Funniest part was it was the middle of the winter.

Technicolor poop!

I once had a dog that ate a fifty-dollar bill.

471 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:22:01am

re: #468 Spare O'Lake

The great thing about my dog is that she somehow manages to barf up most of the foreign matter she manages to swallow.
Unfortunately it's usually on the carpet!

Natch.
Won't be on a nice smooth surface that will clean up easily.
Always the carpet. Maybe it reminds 'em of grass.

472 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:22:49am

Now a lawyer ad - "if you have suffered death from this drug, please call us at ..."

473 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:23:11am

re: #469 reine.de.tout

I put on my handy-dandy plastic gloves and tugged - cat went nuts.

I bet it did.

474 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:23:48am

Lol Mandy I just saw that fast food commercial where they find 5 bucks in the dog "well what do I do" go to whereever fast food place I make it a point to ignore product names most of the time in ads unfortunately.

475 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:23:54am

re: #470 MandyManners

Technicolor poop!

I once had a dog that ate a fifty-dollar bill.

SHOOT YER DOG!

/LOL

476 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:24:03am

re: #473 MandyManners

I bet it did.

As I would have.

477 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:24:59am

re: #474 rancher

Lol Mandy I just saw that fast food commercial where they find 5 bucks in the dog "well what do I do" go to whereever fast food place I make it a point to ignore product names most of the time in ads unfortunately.

What in the world? How did they see the money?

478 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:25:20am

re: #470 MandyManners

I once had a dog that ate a fifty-dollar bill.

Maybe you should've paid by check.

479 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:25:24am

re: #475 HoosierHoops

SHOOT YER DOG!

/LOL

I tried following her around for a couple days.

No. Just, no.

480 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:27:43am

re: #476 reine.de.tout

Had a cat once that liked to eat rubber bands. I had to lock them up 'cause they could do some pretty bad damage to his intestines. That was the same cat that loved green olives.

481 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:27:49am

Stupid commercial but funny can see the 5 in an x ray.

482 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:28:21am

re: #478 Spare O'Lake

Maybe you should've paid by check.

Checks weren't good enough for that mutt.

483 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:29:29am

re: #480 MandyManners

Had a cat once that liked to eat rubber bands. I had to lock them up 'cause they could do some pretty bad damage to his intestines. That was the same cat that loved green olives.

Yeah, I have to watch my cats more than the dog. Rubber bands are so fun for them to play with - they move around like some sort of living thing - but then the cat can't help but want to eat it.

484 quickjustice  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:29:44am

re: #81 pat

Coleridge was as high as a kite on opium when he wrote that.

485 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:30:32am

re: #481 rancher

I remember the attorney who taught us some commercial law telling us about a man who paid the IRS with a check written on a pig. I cannot recall the details but, the courts ruled that the IRS had to accept the pig as payment.

486 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:31:04am

re: #483 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I have to watch my cats more than the dog. Rubber bands are so fun for them to play with - they move around like some sort of living thing - but then the cat can't help but want to eat it.

They smell funky.

487 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:31:55am

Gonna' get some tea. bbiab

488 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:32:07am

re: #485 MandyManners

Wow, hand written cheques. I remember being shown how to that in school many moons ago. Actually did it once too. Wonder if you still can?

489 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:32:35am

re: #482 MandyManners

Checks weren't good enough for that mutt.

Are we talking about a dog or a human? LOL.

490 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:32:39am

Technically as long as it has all the requisite account and routing info can hand print checks with a crayon on construction paper and legally it should be accepted.

491 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:33:14am

Saw this great commercial once..this lady is driving a white convertable with groceries in the back seat..
This really cute dog steps in front of the car and sits down..the car screeches to a stop..another big dog runs up the trunk and grabs a bag of dog food from the back seat..and then both dogs run off together..
Then the logo for the dog food..I mean it was so funny...

492 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:34:13am

I haven'tactually used one except once at the PX while in the army id forgotten my Atm card etc in my deployment neck pouch so wrote up the check and cashed it there with little issue once they confirmed the relevant info with the bank.

493 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:34:22am

re: #488 BlueCanuck

Wow, hand written cheques. I remember being shown how to that in school many moons ago. Actually did it once too. Wonder if you still can?

How young are you, exactly?

I am so glad I don't have to write out a bunch of checks any more - debit cards are great!

But the one I use for internet stuff lls is an account where I put just what I need, no more.
Anybody takes my number, they're not gonna get much.

494 quickjustice  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:34:27am

re: #485 MandyManners

There's also a case about a check written on the side of a cow. In theory, the medium doesn't matter. The IRS simply should have made some bacon!

495 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:35:22am

re: #491 HoosierHoops

Ever see that insurance commercial where a squirrel causes a car to swerve off the road? After the car is in the ditch the squirrel runs up to his body and they each do a fist bump routine.

496 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:35:45am

re: #490 rancher

Technically as long as it has all the requisite account and routing info can hand print checks with a crayon on construction paper and legally it should be accepted.

This is true.

497 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:36:44am

re: #495 BlueCanuck

Ever see that insurance commercial where a squirrel causes a car to swerve off the road? After the car is in the ditch the squirrel runs up to his body and they each do a fist bump routine.

yea..that one is funny..

498 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:36:45am

re: #493 reine.de.tout

Never said how young I was. Let's put it this way. When I started high school calculators weren't allowed in the math final exams. ;)

499 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:36:50am

Too bad they couldn't lower the amount on the check based on the value of the livestock but i beleive both those stories reference a time when the value of a single head of livestock was low so wouldn't have offset much.

500 yochanan  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:38:04am

GOOD MORNING lizards

501 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:38:58am

Then again I'm now a check card junky i hate writting out check and thru my last couple bank accounts haven't even ordered an initial batch of checks. Still Rustler btw

502 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:39:04am

re: #500 yochanan

GOOD MORNING lizards

Good morning..coffee is ready..
/finally reine!

503 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:39:12am

Morning yoch

504 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:40:53am

re: #498 BlueCanuck

Never said how young I was. Let's put it this way. When I started high school calculators weren't allowed in the math final exams. ;)

When I started high school, calculators weren't even around. Well, they were, but they were huge machines that cost lots of money, not ones you could carry in your pocket.

My grandfather had an "adding machine" - must have had 10 or 12 or 15 rows of numbers, 0-9, and you had to punch the number in, like an old manual typewriter, then pull a lever and it would put the number on the tape, then you punched the add or whatever button, pulled the lever and it would all add up.

We used to love playing with it when we visited.

505 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:40:54am

re: #498 BlueCanuck

Never said how young I was. Let's put it this way. When I started high school calculators weren't allowed in the math final exams. ;)

Ah very young... when I was in high school there was no such thing as a calculator. (at least not a portable one). As I recall the very first calculators were in about 1972.

506 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:41:25am

Our previous lab, now deceased, once swallowed a pair of my wife's panties. I was totally grossed out when I noticed them hanging out the back end.
Of course I reported this to my wife immediately.
Did I once read somewhere that labs are an intelligent breed?/

507 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:41:49am

Gotta love the hotel I work at have a garbage disposal in the sink that isn't attached to power so when people dump stuff down it it clogs was up to my elbows in coffee trying to un plug it.

508 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:42:16am

re: #502 HoosierHoops

Good morning..coffee is ready..
/finally reine!

Great! I know that makes you happy.

509 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:43:20am

re: #501 rancher

Then again I'm now a check card junky i hate writting out check and thru my last couple bank accounts haven't even ordered an initial batch of checks. Still Rustler btw

here's a joke you can tell Rancher..
3 ranchers sitting around in a bar smoking cigars and bragging about how rich they are.
one says i got me 10000 acres and 5000 head of cattle
the second one says heck i got me 20000 acres and 10000 head of cattle.
The third one says..that ain't nuthing..
Well what do you have?
I got me 37 acres..
37 acres! they cried..where?
Downtown Dallas..

510 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:43:57am

re: #504 reine.de.tout

re: #505 Dasher

First electronic calculator that I ever saw was plugged into the wall had LED numbers and could do only basic math. No decimal points either. In school when we were finally allowed to use calculators, I had a geek friend drop $150 on scientific calculator that did binary, decimal, octal, and hex.

511 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:44:32am

re: #506 Spare O'Lake

Our previous lab, now deceased, once swallowed a pair of my wife's panties. I was totally grossed out when I noticed them hanging out the back end.
Of course I reported this to my wife immediately.
Did I once read somewhere that labs are an intelligent breed?/

LOLOLOLOL!
That's what happened with the mop string my cat swallowed. Plus, she had been outside and there were leaves stuck to it.

And of course, the entire family reported to me that there was something "wrong" with the cat.

512 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:45:11am

re: #506 Spare O'Lake

Yeah compared to dobies. . . . . .

/white smoke

513 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:45:25am

re: #504 reine.de.tout

When I started high school, calculators weren't even around. Well, they were, but they were huge machines that cost lots of money, not ones you could carry in your pocket.

My grandfather had an "adding machine" - must have had 10 or 12 or 15 rows of numbers, 0-9, and you had to punch the number in, like an old manual typewriter, then pull a lever and it would put the number on the tape, then you punched the add or whatever button, pulled the lever and it would all add up.

We used to love playing with it when we visited.

I remember the Monroe calculator. They cost about $2000 and could actually do sq rt. One problem if you accidentally divided by zero, you would have to send them in for repair.

514 yochanan  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:46:35am

slide rule

515 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:01am

re: #514 yochanan

slide rule

I still have one laying around here somewhere

516 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:09am

re: #511 reine.de.tout

We have a schnoodle that eats kleenex, but only if they're used.
G'mornin all!

517 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:09am

re: #514 yochanan

slide rule

Fingers and toes

518 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:47:40am

re: #517 HoosierHoops

Fingers and toes

That was my style, too HH!
Still is at times.

519 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:48:02am

I'm so old I used to know how to do long division.
Do kids even learn that anymore?

520 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:48:27am

re: #515 Dasher

I know that I've read that in many Asian marketplaces that they use the abacus to this day, and quite skillfully.

521 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:48:40am

re: #516 Bumr50

We have a schnoodle that eats kleenex, but only if they're used.
G'mornin all!

Good morning!
I suppose we'll get all obama all the time on the news shows this morning..

522 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:49:17am

re: #519 Spare O'Lake

I'm so old I used to know how to do long division.
Do kids even learn that anymore?

Just asked my 17 year old
She said they learned how in 3rd grade, but usually use calculators in class.

523 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:49:37am

re: #519 Spare O'Lake

No number left behind?

524 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:49:38am

The first 4 function calc I ever bought cost $120. But it had a feature that even today's don't have. You could set the number of significant decimal points to display. What a great feature that was. Don't know why none seem to have that now.

525 yochanan  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:49:40am

easyier for me to just make change than to use the cash register to do it one more chance for a typo

526 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:50:00am

re: #519 Spare O'Lake

Don't know. When a basic calculator includes minor science functions costs less then $5. Who needs too.

/remember and Asimov story similar to those lines.
//forgotten how to do square roots by hand.

527 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:50:34am

re: #525 yochanan

easyier for me to just make change than to use the cash register to do it one more chance for a typo

Yoch - people can't make change anymore, that's a fact.
I'm amazed by it. If the machine doesn't tell them, then they are lost.

528 paint-right  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:53:36am

anyone learn how to do Chisum Bop? Anyone still use it?

529 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:53:47am

I can't help but wonder, allowing kids to use calculators in class, hasn't opened the door for more rigorous teaching in math concepts and functions, since the nuts and bolts stuff is done quickly on calculators.

530 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:54:14am

re: #528 paint-right

anyone learn how to do Chisum Bop? Anyone still use it?

Chisum Bop? What's that?

531 yochanan  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:54:39am

looking to get a basic digatal cam nothing real fancy going to use it to take snap shots and pic of my art work.

any suggestions moderate price if possible

532 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:54:39am

re: #521 HoosierHoops

And how he's not at the big meeting where they're going to figure out how to make wealth through diplomatic alchemy?

Even on my favorite right leaning sites, the wakes for the GOP are getting old. Instead of coming up with new ideas, writers seem to just be reiterating how if only their ideas on conservatism had been followed we wouldn't be in this pickle.

IMO hardcore social conservatives are going to be difficult to negotiate with, but perhaps necessarily so to come up with a satisfactory and viable party.

533 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:55:47am
534 paint-right  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:56:03am

re: #530 BlueCanuck

Chisum Bop? What's that?

a sort of finger calculator system, Korean in origin i think, and once was the coming thing, on tyalkl shows etc, kids calculating big problems on their two hands.... then it disappeared

ten or fifteen yrs ago

535 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:56:34am

re: #529 reine.de.tout

Sigh. If only teachers would be able to ensure that all of their students could do the work.

This is where no child left behind fails our kids.

536 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:57:37am

re: #531 yochanan

looking to get a basic digatal cam nothing real fancy going to use it to take snap shots and pic of my art work.

any suggestions moderate price if possible

I have an Olympus that is easy and intuitive to use.
Lower-end casios are also good.

537 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:57:59am

re: #529 reine.de.tout

I can't help but wonder, allowing kids to use calculators in class, hasn't opened the door for more rigorous teaching in math concepts and functions, since the nuts and bolts stuff is done quickly on calculators.

Quality teachers is the problem.

538 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 5:58:15am

re: #534 paint-right

a sort of finger calculator system, Korean in origin i think, and once was the coming thing, on tyalkl shows etc, kids calculating big problems on their two hands.... then it disappeared

ten or fifteen yrs ago

I've seen that done.
It's fast and accurate.

539 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:00:00am

re: #535 Bumr50

Sigh. If only teachers would be able to ensure that all of their students could do the work.

This is where no child left behind fails our kids.

That "ALL" students is the problem. Not going to happen. As soon as they figure that out the better off everyone will be.

540 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:00:55am

Was under the impression that TI brand calculators still allowed the setting of signifiacant decimals. Maybe only on the 80 plus series ones tho or My TI 82 is just ancient. Think i got it in 92ish.

Rustler

541 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:00:58am

re: #535 Bumr50

Sigh. If only teachers would be able to ensure that all of their students could do the work.

This is where no child left behind fails our kids.

Yep.
My impression here is that private schools have so much less government and NEA PC BS to put up with, the teachers have the sort of time it takes to tend to students, regardless of class size.

542 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:02:30am

re: #539 Dasher

Trust me, I have seen friends that use a calculator for simple addition. Smart people, but adding four or five numbers together and out comes mister calc. I weep for the children in school now.

543 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:03:04am

Waiting for the roofers to come finish the job they started yesterday. Yesterday they were here at 7:30 am. Today, it's almost 8 and no sign of 'em.

If they had understood English, I could have found out what time they were coming back.

The only English they seem to know is "Hello", and "We'll be back tomorrow to finish" and "Please move your car".

544 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:03:41am

re: #542 BlueCanuck

Trust me, I have seen friends that use a calculator for simple addition. Smart people, but adding four or five numbers together and out comes mister calc. I weep for the children in school now.

Well, that's me.
I couldn't add even when there were no calculators.
My brain just completely fails me.

545 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:03:59am

re: #541 reine.de.tout

We have a trial voucher system here in Pittsburgh that's worked with flying colors, but you don't hear about in the local media.

The unions are strong in this area. Our teachers still strike during the school year.

546 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:05:34am

Kyl is making alot of sense to me about the auto bail-out

547 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:05:53am

I solved a dilemma. There's a park dad who started really paying attention to me despite my customary reading books while The Kid played with his son and other kids. So, we started talking over the past few weeks. He's in the middle of a nasty divorce and despises CBBHO so, we had that in common.

The other day, he said that his STBX had had him arrested for slapping her face while he held their infant but, it was all her fault 'cause she said something mean. I gave him the stink eye and told him there is no excuse for domestic violence. I stood up and started looking around to find The Kid to leave. Then, the dumbshit uttered a racial slur. I hollered, "Kid, to the car. Now." I didn't even look at the creep again.

The problem is that his little boy and The Kid like to play together and get along famously. So, I worried this weekend how to tell The Kid that we would not be going to the park in this town because that dipshit would be there. It's not a big enough park so that we could ignore them, and dipshit has shown that he doesn't respect boundaries--he's come to my car seeking me out at times.

I finally came up with, "Kid, until you get to know someone, you don't really know what they're like. Dipshit is not a nice person and I don't want you to be around him. We can go to the park in Other City."

Maybe I shouldn't let that dipshit chase me off but, I don't want a confrontation at the park--it should be a safe place for kids with no negative vibes polluting the air. And, he's shown a willingness to act inappropriately to women who disagree with him. I don't need that shit in my life.

Gah.

548 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:06:05am

re: #545 Bumr50

We have a trial voucher system here in Pittsburgh that's worked with flying colors, but you don't hear about in the local media.

The unions are strong in this area. Our teachers still strike during the school year.

O fer cryin' out loud.
Striking during the school year is just wrong wrong wrong.
We don't have many strikes here for some reason. But then, about half the population sends their kids to private or parochial schools.

549 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:06:50am

re: #546 HoosierHoops

Who?

550 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:09:44am

re: #547 MandyManners

Oh wow. Sounds like a really classless moron. Yeah, sometimes it's best to avoid bad situations that could escalate.

551 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:09:50am

re: #547 MandyManners

You are right..there is never an excuse for domestic violence..

552 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:09:51am

re: #548 reine.de.tout

My alma mater has been on strike for two weeks. The last time they struck (last contract) I was in the eighth grade (17 yrs. or so) and remember the seniors beingg especially concerned about their transcripts.

Apparently now there are parents protesting the strikers decision to go on strike during such tough economic times.
Our local Port Authority is looking to strike right before Christmas. You're not gonn a wanna see those protests.

Ain't labor unions wonderful!

553 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:10:12am

re: #547 MandyManners

What was the racial slur? If you don't mind me asking.

The guy does sound like a major league a-hole.

554 BBEV  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:11:01am

re: #543 reine.de.tout

Waiting for the roofers to come finish the job they started yesterday. Yesterday they were here at 7:30 am. Today, it's almost 8 and no sign of 'em.

If they had understood English, I could have found out what time they were coming back.

The only English they seem to know is "Hello", and "We'll be back tomorrow to finish" and "Please move your car".

I am in construction, Real Estate Development and property Management so I have a couple of questions for you.
1) did you research who you were hiring
2) if so why did you hirer a company that uses illegal labor
3) did you take the lowest price
4) if so did you think why they were the cheapest

555 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:11:20am

re: #549 Bumr50

Who?

ohhh.watching chris wallace on fox news..had Kyl from AZ. explaining his idea to just let the big 3 go chapter 11 like everybody else does..like the airlines.

556 Pullus Iulius  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:11:49am

re: #547 MandyManners

Good analysis and good decision.

557 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:12:35am

re: #555 HoosierHoops

Oh ok! I can't turn on the TV yet. Late sleepers.

558 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:13:24am

re: #550 BlueCanuck

Oh wow. Sounds like a really classless moron. Yeah, sometimes it's best to avoid bad situations that could escalate.

A small part of me thinks I could teach him a thing or two about domestic violence but, it's not my job to teach the world. My job is to protect myself and The Kid.

559 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:13:24am

re: #547 MandyManners

Good job!

560 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:13:36am

re: #552 Bumr50

My alma mater has been on strike for two weeks. The last time they struck (last contract) I was in the eighth grade (17 yrs. or so) and remember the seniors beingg especially concerned about their transcripts.

Apparently now there are parents protesting the strikers decision to go on strike during such tough economic times.
Our local Port Authority is looking to strike right before Christmas. You're not gonn a wanna see those protests.

Ain't labor unions wonderful!

Louisiana is a right to work state. I can't recall the last time I heard about anybody striking in this area.

561 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:14:30am

GM, Ford, and Chrysler should fail. From the ashes, new companies could emerge that could compete. As it is you can't supply them with enough money. They will just come back for more.

I here the latest plan is to accelerate the the $25 bil legislation already passed and drop some of the mandates. i.e. ridiculous CAFE standards.

562 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:14:56am

re: #551 HoosierHoops

You are right..there is never an excuse for domestic violence..

The way he blithely blamed her--as if to say it's only logical to smack a woman who says something "bad" to you--let me know what an asshole he is. I mean, he was holding their infant at the time. What if she had struck back and the baby got hurt?!

563 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:15:08am

re: #560 reine.de.tout

We're looking to relocate once I finish my bachelor's degree. LA might be a bit muggy for my better half. We're looking at maybe NC.

564 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:16:37am

re: #553 x-wing

What was the racial slur? If you don't mind me asking.

The guy does sound like a major league a-hole.

I'm not gonna' repeat it. Just thinking about it pisses me off. Why in the world would he think that I would welcome such a word around me? He must run in some pretty trashy circles to think nothing of saying it.

565 akak  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:17:45am

Good for you Mandy! Hate to see your kid lose a friend, but.

566 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:17:51am

re: #562 MandyManners

The way he blithely blamed her--as if to say it's only logical to smack a woman who says something "bad" to you--let me know what an asshole he is. I mean, he was holding their infant at the time. What if she had struck back and the baby got hurt?!

no wonder he is involved in a nasty divorce...
POS

567 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:17:56am

re: #556 Pullus Iulius

Good analysis and good decision.

I knew we'd not go back until he goes back to work and quits bringing his son to the park but, I couldn't figure out what to tell The Kid. There are some things a child does not need to know about.

568 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:18:48am

re: #561 Dasher

I was under the impression that the 25 billion was already earmarked pre-bailout and they just want it quicker and all at once.

I've written my rep. expressing my desire that any bailout (let's face the music - it's gonna happen) MUST include some financial responsibility be borne by the UAW. Even if it's small. Trust me - anything will get these morons riled up enough to express their selfishness to the point that there is a public awareness and outcry.

569 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:07am

re: #554 BBEV

I am in construction, Real Estate Development and property Management so I have a couple of questions for you.
1) did you research who you were hiring
2) if so why did you hirer a company that uses illegal labor
3) did you take the lowest price
4) if so did you think why they were the cheapest

1. Hubby did this
2. I'm not sure they're illegal. They may very well be here legally.
3. Nope
4. They did the neighbor's roof and did a good job.

After Katrina, there was no one here to fill jobs. Literally no one. Mcdonald's, for crying out loud, was offering employment bonuses of a couple thousand dollars for people to come work the service counter!

We ended up with an influx of Mexicans, who truly did do the jobs that we could not find Americans to do. In N.O. they lived in a tent city at NO city park. There was nowhere else to live. The residents didn't even have places to live.

I am strongly for secure borders. But my experience here is that there are jobs Americans won't do - manual work, work in hot and uncomfortable situations. We would be at a standstill if it weren't for the Mexicans doing people's yard work, roofing, etc. They aren't taking jobs away from anybody - they're being hired because contractors can't find other employees. We've had an influx of Mexicans and some Jamaicans.

For these types of situations, the gov't has got to come up with some sort of guest worker program.

570 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:20am

re: #558 MandyManners

Anyone willing to use violence as a is worthless. I don't know how many times I have just walked away from people that were provoking me. I can actually say that I have only been in three fights as an adult. Two at a bar I was working at.

571 opnion  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:48am

Greetings from the airport Lizards. It is with great pleasure that I report that i have successfully navigated the suspected felon screening.
I need to make a note to myself to wear a turban next time & carry a copy of the Koran, so that I can get some respect around here.

572 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:19:53am

re: #563 Bumr50

We're looking to relocate once I finish my bachelor's degree. LA might be a bit muggy for my better half. We're looking at maybe NC.

La. is too muggy for anybody's taste.
But I love it here, anyhow.

573 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:20:29am

re: #559 Bumr50

Good job!

Thanks! When The Kid heard me and came running up to me on the way to the car, he didn't protest that it wasn't time to go. I probably was puffed up pretty large with a stern look on my face--think of Gandalf in Frodo's house when Frodo tried to get Gandalf to take the Ring.

574 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:20:37am

re: #564 MandyManners

It sucks you'll have to find another park for The Kid to play in, but you did the right thing. I feel sorry for the other kid though, having to grow up in that atmosphere.

575 Dasher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:20:45am

re: #568 Bumr50

The $25 billion, was to be doled out over time to help retool for higher gas mileage vehicles. Now they may re-purpose the cash for "lets just stay alive money". At least that is the direction Bush says he will support.

576 Karridine  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:05am

Oh, WOW!

I check in to see the latest in swayve, savvy speech.... and we're discussing dog-vomit!

/way kewl count me owt...

Bunking down for a Sunday night in Bangkok's rainy suburbs... Have a GREAT Sunday, y'all

577 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:05am

re: #571 opnion

Greetings from the airport Lizards. It is with great pleasure that I report that i have successfully navigated the suspected felon screening.
I need to make a note to myself to wear a turban next time & carry a copy of the Koran, so that I can get some respect around here.

No prayer rug?
Jeez

578 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:46am

re: #565 akak

Good for you Mandy! Hate to see your kid lose a friend, but.

I can't police everything in his life as he grows up but, I can make decisions about what to expose him to while he's young.

579 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:21:49am

re: #576 Karridine

Oh, WOW!

I check in to see the latest in swayve, savvy speech.... and we're discussing dog-vomit!

/way kewl count me owt...

Bunking down for a Sunday night in Bangkok's rainy suburbs... Have a GREAT Sunday, y'all

Aw, keep reading!
It gets better.

580 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:23:02am

re: #569 reine.de.tout

re: #573 MandyManners

That's a look only a mother can give!

581 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:23:13am

IIII mmigghtt hhave ddrank toooo much cooofffee

582 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:23:29am

re: #566 HoosierHoops

no wonder he is involved in a nasty divorce...
POS

HIs STBX is no saint from what he says but, that's FROM WHAT HE SAYS.

Ick. I didn't need to be around that shit any way. BTDT.

583 Karridine  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:24:13am

re: #579 reine.de.tout

Better and better and

better go to bed. G'nite, Weet Kween!

584 BBEV  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:24:36am

re: #569 reine.de.tout

I have to disagree with you on the labor part, I live here in New Hampshire and had many friends that were going to go to that area to work but the pay was next to nothing and you had to be able to speak Spanish so that fight does not work for me. It is the greedy contractors that give a bad name to the good ones.

585 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:24:41am

re: #583 Karridine

Better and better and

better go to bed. G'nite, Weet Kween!

good night, weet dreams

586 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:25:07am

OT - David Gilmour's Live in Gdansk CD set is worth purchasing for those into that sort of music. I got the 2CD + DVD version and am happy!

587 opnion  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:25:24am

re: #577 HoosierHoops

No prayer rug?
Jeez


That will be plan B , if plan A doesn't get it done.

588 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:25:27am

re: #570 BlueCanuck

Anyone willing to use violence as a is worthless. I don't know how many times I have just walked away from people that were provoking me. I can actually say that I have only been in three fights as an adult. Two at a bar I was working at.

There are fighting words. The time that clod called me that C-word...I bet he never called a woman that again.

Maybe I'm a hypocrite.

589 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:26:51am

re: #584 BBEV

I have to disagree with you on the labor part, I live here in New Hampshire and had many friends that were going to go to that area to work but the pay was next to nothing and you had to be able to speak Spanish so that fight does not work for me. It is the greedy contractors that give a bad name to the good ones.

You may be absolutely correct. I don't have enough experience with contractors to know. I do know that it used to be pert near impossible to get roofing work done. The last time we replaced our roof, it was a 6 month wait.

Now, pay here is going to be lower than in your part of the country, regardless of anything else.

590 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:26:54am

re: #574 x-wing

It sucks you'll have to find another park for The Kid to play in, but you did the right thing. I feel sorry for the other kid though, having to grow up in that atmosphere.

He has a baby and a six-year-old boy, and a 17-year-old son who seems to have his head on straight--very soft-spoken and polite. Who knows?

591 legalpad  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:27:16am

re: #547 MandyManners

Absolutely good call. There is just no alternative.

592 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:27:47am

Ah. Roofers here. Must go move car.

593 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:27:59am

re: #580 Bumr50

re: #573 MandyManners

That's a look only a mother can give!

I got slightly sick at my stomach as the adrenaline oozed away later.

594 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:19am

Good morning all y'all - from a COLD (37 degrees, going all the way up to 54 today, going down BELOW FREEZING tonight) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

595 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:22am

re: #574 x-wing

Maybe she taught him a lesson that'll stick with him. People actually do change sometimes.

596 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:42am

re: #588 MandyManners

There are fighting words. The time that clod called me that C-word...I bet he never called a woman that again.

Maybe I'm a hypocrite.

I get the feeling that the C-word he used wasn't Cutie-pie ;>}

/white smoke.

597 BBEV  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:44am

re: #589 reine.de.tout

You may be absolutely correct. I don't have enough experience with contractors to know. I do know that it used to be pert near impossible to get roofing work done. The last time we replaced our roof, it was a 6 month wait.

Now, pay here is going to be lower than in your part of the country, regardless of anything else.

The problem is that I could easly bring a few crews down there to work but I would be under bid every time by other contractors paying low wages.

598 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:48am

re: #591 legalpad

Absolutely good call. There is just no alternative.

Maybe the cut will cause him to think. But, I'm glad he said what he said so that I didn't spend any more time talking to him. Weed 'em out.

599 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:29:49am

re: #592 reine.de.tout

Va, va!

600 akak  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:30:36am

Hussein wants Israel to go back to 67 borders?

At least on a more positive not he'll likely tell GM to get stuffed and the Dow will go to 5000 or lower.

/penny stocks anyone?

601 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:30:38am

re: #595 Bumr50

Maybe she taught him a lesson that'll stick with him. People actually do change sometimes.

If going to jail didn't teach him a lesson about DV, I don't know what would.

602 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:30:59am

re: #596 x-wing

I get the feeling that the C-word he used wasn't Cutie-pie ;>}

/white smoke.

LOL!

603 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:31:25am

re: #595 Bumr50

Hopefully she did. She does seem to have that affect on people.

/I love tuff women.

604 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:31:38am

Well how's about some music for today - to kinda warm up and give ya something anyone can sing along with?!

605 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:31:52am

re: #600 akak

Hussein wants Israel to go back to 67 borders?

At least on a more positive not he'll likely tell GM to get stuffed and the Dow will go to 5000 or lower.

/penny stocks anyone?

Where/when did he say that?

606 tappin52  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:32:06am

re: #574 x-wing

It sucks you'll have to find another park for The Kid to play in, but you did the right thing. I feel sorry for the other kid though, having to grow up in that atmosphere.

The really sad part is that his kid is more likely than not to develop Dad's bad manners.

607 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:32:38am

re: #597 BBEV

The problem is that I could easly bring a few crews down there to work but I would be under bid every time by other contractors paying low wages.

Gotcha.
Maybe that's why we couldn't get anyone here after Katrina (low wages to begin with), and ended up with a bunch of Mexicans. They weren't here before that.

608 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:32:44am

re: #594 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a COLD (37 degrees, going all the way up to 54 today, going down BELOW FREEZING tonight) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Good Morning Realwest!

609 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:33:19am

re: #599 Bumr50

Va, va!

Oh, cute.

610 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:33:28am

re: #603 x-wing

Hopefully she did. She does seem to have that affect on people.

/I love tuff women.

Part of me thinks that the cut would make him think but, I realize that it's not my place to teach him.

Co-dependent no more!

611 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:33:43am

re: #601 MandyManners

Touche. I forgot about that part.

From what I've seen of domestic abusers, it's more of a nurture than a nature thing. Daddy put mommy in her place sort of thing.
Hopefully with the ever-expanding interconnectedness of the world, the kids'll be able to discern that this is an unacceptable way of dealing with emotions.

612 sadhu  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:33:52am

Triangle Complex fire - live ABC video: [Link: abclocal.go.com...]

613 legalpad  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:02am

re: #598 MandyManners

Maybe the cut will cause him to think.

No. These guys are incurable. My wife's ex beat her and she filed after a few months of marriage.

614 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:23am

re: #606 tappin52

The really sad part is that his kid is more likely than not to develop Dad's bad manners.

DV is generational. That's one reason I divorced my X.

615 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:50am

re: #600 akak
Morning to you! Well I don't want to hurt any lizards who work for the Big 3 or any of their hundreds and hundreds of subcontractors, but I sure hope we DO tell the Big 3 to work it out for themselves or go bankrupt.
Never saw 3 major corporations get run into the ground pretty nearly of their own incompetence than GM, Ford and Chrysler.

616 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:34:54am

re: #601 MandyManners

If going to jail didn't teach him a lesson about DV, I don't know what would.

I must've missed that earlier. The guy actually spent time in the slammer for it? Yeah, it was only a slap..riiiight.

617 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:35:40am

re: #611 Bumr50

Touche. I forgot about that part.

From what I've seen of domestic abusers, it's more of a nurture than a nature thing. Daddy put mommy in her place sort of thing.
Hopefully with the ever-expanding interconnectedness of the world, the kids'll be able to discern that this is an unacceptable way of dealing with emotions.

It's kinda' hard to un-learn those lessons when they're taught from a very early age.

618 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:36:58am

re: #608 HoosierHoops
Hey, good morning Hoops - how are you today? I reckon the Colts ought to pick up an easy win today - my Giants I'm not so sure about!

619 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:12am

re: #604 realwest

Beautiful!

How about the best Bob Dylan cover EVER and some beautiful American muscle?

620 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:16am

re: #593 MandyManners

Nothing as nasty as an adrenaline crash. Hate them myself. Worse then drinking a pot of coffee. An adrenaline rush will keep me wired for hours.

/used to get them from dealing with an ex-guard.

621 BBEV  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:42am

re: #607 reine.de.tout

Gotcha.
Maybe that's why we couldn't get anyone here after Katrina (low wages to begin with), and ended up with a bunch of Mexicans. They weren't here before that.

I'm sorry to hear that and I do understand your situation.

622 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:37:58am

Morning...

Let us not speak of them; but look, and pass on.

Nothing is new. Consider "Those We Do Not Speak Of" from M. Night Shyamalan's The Village.

623 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:38:44am
624 BBEV  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:38:50am

Good Mornin Real

625 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:38:55am

re: #621 BBEV

I'm sorry to hear that and I do understand your situation.

Things are often more complicated than what they appear on the surface to be.

626 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:39:17am

re: #618 realwest

Hey, good morning Hoops - how are you today? I reckon the Colts ought to pick up an easy win today - my Giants I'm not so sure about!

Doing great today..we are having a Colts party today..
It's a must win it seems for the rest of the year..no let down or else no play-offs.

627 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:19am

And speaking of raising kids (fair notice: never done it myself) here's a story that kinda makes you go "Hmmm" :

Boy allegedly hits mom with saw, offers her $5

"FORT PIERCE, Fla. - Authorities say an 11-year-old boy hit his mother in the head with a saw and then offered her $5 not to call police. The St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office reported that the boy and his 41-year-old mother got into an argument Wednesday when she was trying to get him to take his medication.

The boy left and went to another home, where he began hitting a tree with a saw. When the mother finally caught up with the boy, authorities say he hit her in the head with the saw, causing a minor laceration. A sheriff's report said that's when the boy began pleading with his mother not to call police and offered her a $5 bill.

The boy is facing an aggravated battery charge."
[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

628 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:30am

re: #616 x-wing

You never know these days. Worked with a guy that went to court for "hitting" his wife. What happened was she rushed him and he deflected her onto the bed. (what he said). Ex-girlfriend charged her former boyfriend with assault. Found out the hard way that she was the abusive one. Me being raised right and fairly smart lit out for the hills the minute I got the chance.

629 tappin52  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:48am

I count myself lucky to have married a guy who was taught that men don't hit women. Period. We taught our sons the same. But everywhere you look today the girls are pretty in-your-face and bitchy and not at all afraid of throwing the first punch. I'm glad mine are grown.

630 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:40:52am

re: #623 taxfreekiller

... Merry Sunday morning.

Oh, come on. All you need is love.
/

631 BBEV  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:41:28am

re: #623 taxfreekiller

Gee thanks for that now I feel better

632 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:41:30am

Manning vs.Manning in the Superbowl.
The greatest SB EVAH!

633 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:42:09am

re: #631 BBEV

Gee thanks for that now I feel better

LOL

634 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:42:17am

re: #632 HoosierHoops

Manning vs.Manning in the Superbowl.
The greatest SB EVAH!

What is "SB?"

635 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:43:10am

re: #626 HoosierHoops

Never underestimate Andre Johnson.

636 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:43:31am

re: #634 Walter L. Newton

What is "SB?"

Super Bowl Walter..
Good morning!

637 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:04am

re: #632 HoosierHoops

Manning vs.Manning in the Superbowl.
The greatest SB EVAH!


I would watch that! Morning Hoopster and All.

638 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:06am

re: #636 HoosierHoops

Super Bowl Walter..
Good morning!

Ah, I don't understand. Superbowl is one word?

639 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:34am

re: #637 newsjunkie_ky

I would watch that! Morning Hoopster and All.

Good morning news!

640 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:44:49am

re: #632 HoosierHoops

Not if Willie Parker's healthy. Nice new digs though! Have you been to a game there yet?

641 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:45:06am

re: #619 Bumr50
Why thank you - yeah, that line from my link "GOOD MORNING AMERICA HOW ARE YA, DON'T YOU KNOW ME I'M YOUR NATIVE SON?" Always sorta gets me and the same for the rest of the lyrics.
But damn it's hard not to sing along with those two lines I put up there!
Loved the cars in yours - good cover of a great song, but the eye-candy was kinda distracting so I'm listening to it without the video!

642 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:46:53am

re: #623 taxfreekiller

Hi tfk. Had my coffee this morning so I am looking on the bright side.

It's only going to be 2-4 years and the electorate may learn a few things they might have forgotten (me included).

643 akak  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:47:04am
644 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:47:14am

re: #624 BBEV
Good morning BBEV my friend - how's things going for ya?

645 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:47:29am

re: #640 Bumr50

Not if Willie Parker's healthy. Nice new digs though! Have you been to a game there yet?

Yes.. I went to the very first game there... Have tiks for the Bengals game..
The big screen is amazing..we laughed about how we keep watching it instead of looking down on the field..amazing clarity and sharpness.

646 BBev  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:48:09am

re: #644 realwest

Good morning BBEV my friend - how's things going for ya?

Not well my friend not well

647 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:48:24am

re: #641 realwest

No doubt - Arlo is an icon.

I first heard that recording on a Best of Jerry compilation from Rhino and it blew my socks off.

648 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:50:52am

re: #645 HoosierHoops

Bengals! Nice! Guaranteed victory. Betcha didn't know that when you got them though. I never did like that balloon you guys had, but it gave you the noise thing.

I'm not real impressed with Heinz Field, except for the general layout and location. I think they could've done better with the $$. My opinion though.

649 BBev  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:51:15am

I have to go out BBL

650 JustMyView  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:51:29am

re: #638 Walter L. Newton

Ah, I don't understand. Superbowl is one word?

Two words. Like Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, etc.

651 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:51:51am

re: #641 realwest

Why thank you - yeah, that line from my link "GOOD MORNING AMERICA HOW ARE YA, DON'T YOU KNOW ME I'M YOUR NATIVE SON?" Always sorta gets me and the same for the rest of the lyrics.
But damn it's hard not to sing along with those two lines I put up there!
Loved the cars in yours - good cover of a great song, but the eye-candy was kinda distracting so I'm listening to it without the video!


Good morning Realwest. I hadn't thought of that song in a long time. I went back and am listening now. Thanks.

652 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:53:47am

re: #651 newsjunkie_ky

Good mornin! Love the puppy!

653 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:53:48am

re: #630 Walter L. Newton
Huh, ya mean: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

654 akak  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:53:52am

re: #615 realwest

Morning to you! Well I don't want to hurt any lizards who work for the Big 3 or any of their hundreds and hundreds of subcontractors, but I sure hope we DO tell the Big 3 to work it out for themselves or go bankrupt.
Never saw 3 major corporations get run into the ground pretty nearly of their own incompetence than GM, Ford and Chrysler.

Good Moring Realwest!

If they could just make Detroit fall into the ocean instead of California, their balance sheets would be so much better.

/expand the Great Lakes maybe?

655 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:53:59am

re: #628 BlueCanuck

I wont disagree there. The guy in Mandys' case sounds a little too shady for me. I had an incindent with an ex-girlfriend that involved the police one night. I didn't touch her, but I was looked at as the bad guy. So yeah,it happens, but if this guy went to jail, there had to be proof.

656 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:54:04am

re: #648 Bumr50

Bengals! Nice! Guaranteed victory. Betcha didn't know that when you got them though. I never did like that balloon you guys had, but it gave you the noise thing.

I'm not real impressed with Heinz Field, except for the general layout and location. I think they could've done better with the $$. My opinion though.

The most important thing is trying to get tickets for the SuperBowl here in 2012. It is the mission..failure is not an option...

657 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:54:44am

re: #635 Bumr50
Who?!

658 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:55:33am

re: #635 Bumr50

Oh I don't know. The Texans have forgotten him on occasion this season.

My upset pick is Cowboys over Redskins.

The pick that upset me was the Patriots losing to the Jets (although I read it was a pretty good game -- !@#$%^&*() NFL pay-per-view).

659 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:55:55am

re: #652 Bumr50

Good mornin! Love the puppy!


Thank you, my avatar is of my little Meggie, she recently passed away. I just adopted a rescue dog yesterday. So far so good, but she is still a little timid. But has decided her new mom is nice.

660 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:56:15am
661 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:56:37am

re: #657 realwest

Andre Johnson. He's a beast.

662 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:57:51am

re: #613 legalpad

No. These guys are incurable. My wife's ex beat her and she filed after a few months of marriage.

People can learn to stop DV but, it takes a long time and a lot of work.

663 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:58:27am

re: #653 realwest

Huh, ya mean: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

Ringo doesn't know the proper way to hold his drumsticks. For a matter of fact, I don't think he really knows much about the drumming at all.

664 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:58:47am

re: #616 x-wing

I must've missed that earlier. The guy actually spent time in the slammer for it? Yeah, it was only a slap..riiiight.

Any abusive contact in this state means an arrest will follow.

665 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 6:59:20am

Oops. I left to get The Kid ready for church. I didn't know I'd get 50 posts behind.

666 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:09am

re: #659 newsjunkie_ky

Thank you, my avatar is of my little Meggie, she recently passed away. I just adopted a rescue dog yesterday. So far so good, but she is still a little timid. But has decided her new mom is nice.

What is is? Name? Dogs only need three things... food, (scratch my belly...) sleep, (scratch my belly...) and you (scratch my belly...).

667 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:28am

re: #659 newsjunkie_ky

Thank you, my avatar is of my little Meggie, she recently passed away. I just adopted a rescue dog yesterday. So far so good, but she is still a little timid. But has decided her new mom is nice.

Is it a mutt like BHO? ;>}

/don't see to many toy dogs in the pound

668 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:36am

re: #637 newsjunkie_ky
Good morning {news}! I received and replied to your e-mail so when ya get a chance you might want to check!

669 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:52am

re: #665 MandyManners

Yeah, the morning crowd is in and the pace has picked up fairly well too.

670 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:00:55am

re: #620 BlueCanuck

Nothing as nasty as an adrenaline crash. Hate them myself. Worse then drinking a pot of coffee. An adrenaline rush will keep me wired for hours.

/used to get them from dealing with an ex-guard.

When I useta' get flash-backs and go into panic attacks, I would go to sleep after my body realigned itself and the adrenaline left.

671 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:02:26am

re: #646 BBev
Gah, I'm so sorry to hear that - can you drop me an e-mail my friend?

672 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:02:57am

re: #661 Bumr50

I want Andre to be the man every game.

I am warming up to hiring Mike Leach as the head coach :)

/return of the greatest show on turf

673 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:03:38am

re: #651 newsjunkie_ky
You're quite welcome! All of the lyrics are great and so evocative - they really sorta paint a picture for you.
Enjoy!

674 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:03:56am

re: #659 newsjunkie_ky

My deepest sympathy.

Our Bailey is featured on a website advertising homemade dog treats.

675 yochanan  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:04:45am

i like the interesting photo's with the song. small town life is diffrent from what i am used to but one of my son's wife is from a small town in neb.

676 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:04:53am

re: #628 BlueCanuck

You never know these days. Worked with a guy that went to court for "hitting" his wife. What happened was she rushed him and he deflected her onto the bed. (what he said). Ex-girlfriend charged her former boyfriend with assault. Found out the hard way that she was the abusive one. Me being raised right and fairly smart lit out for the hills the minute I got the chance.

re: #629 tappin52

I count myself lucky to have married a guy who was taught that men don't hit women. Period. We taught our sons the same. But everywhere you look today the girls are pretty in-your-face and bitchy and not at all afraid of throwing the first punch. I'm glad mine are grown.

I've never seen reliable numbers on the prevalence of DV committed by women but, I bet they're not small.

677 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:06:00am

re: #669 BlueCanuck

Everyone is looking for consolation away from the Sunday paper and the 24x7 adulation of "The One" (save for the plotting whack jobs that like drawing law enforcement attention to themselves -- there are better ways to oppose him folks).

678 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:06:16am

re: #674 Bumr50

Bailey is in fact a SHE.

679 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:07:09am

re: #669 BlueCanuck

Yeah, the morning crowd is in and the pace has picked up fairly well too.

Good thing I have fast fingers.

680 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:07:11am

re: #676 MandyManners

Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.

681 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:07:38am

re: #663 Walter L. Newton
Well frankly Walter, with John, Paul and occasionally George doing the writing, all Ringo had to do was not get in the way and make sure he kept the beat!

682 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:08:12am

re: #681 realwest
Futz, hit post comment by mistake!
How are you Walter?

683 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:10:27am

re: #666 Walter L. Newton

What is is? Name? Dogs only need three things... food, (scratch my belly...) sleep, (scratch my belly...) and you (scratch my belly...).


Hi Walter. She is a shit tzu mix, about a year old. Came from a 'hoarder' that had 70 dogs. Poor little thing had already had a litter of pups at her age. Kept in a cage most of her life. She was spayed on Thursday. Now a new wrinkle, someone has contacted the foster mom and claims that she is their dog that they lost last year. She will investigate their claims.
My new little girl is a real cutied and very sweet and really timid. She warmed up quickly though and slept in my lap most of the evening while I loved on her. She actually slept with me and didn't make a peep. She likes to stay very close to me which is understandable.
How are you doing? We had a little snow last night and it is quite chilling.

684 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:11:32am

re: #681 realwest

Let us not forget Yellow Submarine.

685 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:11:32am

re: #681 realwest

Well frankly Walter, with John, Paul and occasionally George doing the writing, all Ringo had to do was not get in the way and make sure he kept the beat!

Ringo was always in the pocket..

686 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:12:22am

re: #685 HoosierHoops

Now he's always in Vegas.

687 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:00am

re: #685 HoosierHoops

I enjoyed his lead singing in 'with a little help from my friends'

688 legalpad  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:08am

re: #662 MandyManners

People can learn to stop DV but, it takes a long time and a lot of work.

I'm sure there are cases, but the cost can be more than time and work. Children suffer, learn to imitate or tolerate. Many of them just bury it when people they cannot bully are around. Some of the victims defend and enable the perpetrators by protecting them from the consequences of their actions. (i.e. police or just other men wo don't tolerate it.)

Then there are the cases that escalate into lethal force.

689 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:12am

re: #680 BlueCanuck

Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.

There's no way I would even think about attending one of those. If I was getting smacked around by a women (and I wasn't asking her to do it), I'd be out the door.

/hope that wasn't TMI ;>}

690 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:13:17am

re: #674 Bumr50

My deepest sympathy.

Our Bailey is featured on a website advertising homemade dog treats.

Thank you. I'm still quite emotional when talking, thinking about Meg.
Bailey is an absolute dollbaby.
Will have to check that place out. So you recommend the goodies there?

691 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:14:52am

re: #682 realwest

Futz, hit post comment by mistake!
How are you Walter?

Ok. I wish our weather would get stable. It's so typical around this time of year to have some days close to freezing and a few days later pushing into the high 60's. Once it starts getting cold, I like it to stay that way.

Things are settled down, now that we got through the 2 week cross over between one show and our new show (Xmas show), a local concert, and then the Roger McGuinn concert for two nights and the opening night reception (I hate food in the theatre).

So, now into a normal routine, 3 shows a week, then in Dec. 4 and 5 shows a week (depending on some group sales) and then we close it down for ONE WEEK before we get busy again. Gee, a one week vacation.

692 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:15:06am

re: #678 Bumr50

Bailey is in fact a SHE.


like Bailey Quarters of WKRP. I have a cat named Bailey and she is a she and was named after the character.

693 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:16:18am

re: #690 newsjunkie_ky

Definitely! The proprietors are friends of the girlfriends parents through their work in the Salvation Army. We belong to the treat of the month club. Bailey loves em'.
The girl knows more than I do about it.

694 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:16:35am

re: #680 BlueCanuck

Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.

It's still hard--if not impossible--for a man to get help from a DV shelter, including counselling.

695 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:16:38am

re: #687 heidi586

I enjoyed his lead singing in 'with a little help from my friends'

Love the beatles.. I have 4 dolls of them from 1969 in the original box. never been opened..And I have one gold record of theirs on the wall..
the dolls will go on eBay some day

696 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:17:11am

re: #680 BlueCanuck

Used to be under reported. What guy would want to admit to a cop, or in court, that he got beat up by a woman? Remember reading a couple years ago about a support group for male victims of domestic violence.

You are right about guys not wanting to admit and it happening more than is reported. (not from personal experience but if anyone laid a finger on me they would pull back a stub).
There was a funny 'King of Queens' episode about Doug joining a support group, mainly for the food.

697 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:17:46am

re: #98 Fenway_Nation

Greetings scaly earthlings- I hail from the distant planet of Fomalhaut C, a highly developed civilization with advanced technology that's even capable of interstellar travel.

However, even our technology has some limitations. For instance- I'm nearly out of fuel for my craft. Did I mention that it runs on Bacardi?


Finally, now I know what Bacardi is good for

698 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:17:49am

re: #683 newsjunkie_ky

Hi Walter. She is a shit tzu mix, about a year old. Came from a 'hoarder' that had 70 dogs. Poor little thing had already had a litter of pups at her age. Kept in a cage most of her life. She was spayed on Thursday. Now a new wrinkle, someone has contacted the foster mom and claims that she is their dog that they lost last year. She will investigate their claims.
My new little girl is a real cutied and very sweet and really timid. She warmed up quickly though and slept in my lap most of the evening while I loved on her. She actually slept with me and didn't make a peep. She likes to stay very close to me which is understandable.
How are you doing? We had a little snow last night and it is quite chilling.

Neat. I love Shitzu's. The last wife and I had one. Sad story, but after she asked me to leave, she was spending all her money aon booze, and the utility company shut her off for two months over the winter. The Shitzu and 2 other dogs died becuase of getting sick from the cold (and probably not being well taken care of period).

I can't have 4 legged critters in this small apartment. Just my parrot Maisey.

699 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:19:57am

re: #695 HoosierHoops

I love the Beatles music...as long as I have them and U2 on my Zune I'd be happy.

700 yochanan  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:19:58am

a cat has me i woulder what she would think a parrot is good for?

i suspect lunch.

701 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:26am

re: #688 legalpad

I'm sure there are cases, but the cost can be more than time and work. Children suffer, learn to imitate or tolerate. Many of them just bury it when people they cannot bully are around. Some of the victims defend and enable the perpetrators by protecting them from the consequences of their actions. (i.e. police or just other men wo don't tolerate it.)

Then there are the cases that escalate into lethal force.

When a woman depends on her husband's check to pay the bills, there's a huge disincentive to see him go to jail. One way to get around it would be emergency court orders that give the woman 1/2 of the man's pay for mortgage/utilities/food.

And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them.

702 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:26am

PIMF, PIMF, PIMF.

703 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:30am

re: #697 bbuddha

I don't know where you're from, but I don't drink anymore and am sick of the mojito marketing.

Mojito this, mojito that. The uppity types just seem to like to say the word, because it's new and all.

I guess I kind of went off there...sorry.

704 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:45am

re: #699 heidi586

I love Zune!

705 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:20:47am

re: #695 HoosierHoops

I forgot to ask...where did you get a gold record?

706 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:21:22am

re: #689 x-wing

There's no way I would even think about attending one of those. If I was getting smacked around by a women (and I wasn't asking her to do it), I'd be out the door.

/hope that wasn't TMI ;>}

There are men who don't have such sound boundaries as yours.

707 Bloodnok  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:21:46am

re: #695 HoosierHoops

Love the beatles.. I have 4 dolls of them from 1969 in the original box. never been opened..And I have one gold record of theirs on the wall..
the dolls will go on eBay some day

How cool. Which record is it?

(My prized Beatles possession is an original Please Please Me LP on the Parlophone label found at a Daytona flea market for 50 cents. Album cover is in immaculate shape.)

708 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:21:50am

re: #698 Walter L. Newton
I enjoy when you write about Maisey.

709 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:22:39am

re: #699 heidi586

I love the Beatles music...as long as I have them and U2 on my Zune I'd be happy.

I also liked the soundtrack from the movie ' I am Sam' all beatles music done by different artist..
just freggin awesome versions.

710 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:22:44am

re: #692 newsjunkie_ky

like Bailey Quarters of WKRP. I have a cat named Bailey and she is a she and was named after the character.

I always thought she was hotter than Jennifer.

711 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:23:00am

re: #699 heidi586

I have mostly Pink Floyd (481 songs) and Grateful Dead (188 songs).

712 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:23:43am

My prized Beatle possession is a framed blow-up of the news clip concerning Mr. Kite. It's super gear.

713 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:23:48am

re: #704 Bumr50

Zune is so much nicer then IPod. At least for what I use it for.

714 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:24:09am

re: #709 HoosierHoops

Does that have the "Across the Universe" by Fiona Apple?

715 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:24:23am

re: #683 newsjunkie_ky Uh, received and replied to your e-mail.

716 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:24:36am

re: #705 heidi586

I forgot to ask...where did you get a gold record?

The Gold Album of 'I'll follow the Sun' was given to me by a friend....

717 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:24:45am

Do not discuss Beatles covers with me.

718 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:25:12am

re: #707 Bloodnok

Awesome! That was a once in a lifetime

719 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:25:37am

re: #710 MandyManners

I always thought she was hotter than Jennifer.

Me, too. Jennifer was fluff, hair and makeup (ok she was/is built like a brickhouse), Bailey was gorgeous and built, but they played up Jennie-poo and underplayed Bailey.

720 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:26:17am

re: #660 taxfreekiller

any one who thinks Americans will not work is nuts

Americans will not work for slave wages, yet the ones in D.C. are
going to vote 20 million Mexican wage slaves legal and let them
go after your jobs, your very pay checks you just now can break even with,
. . .

.

TFK - I agree with you that "Americans will work".
But an American living in a high-cost and high-wage area will not, or better said, cannot for their own sakes, take work in a low-cost and low-wage area.

When a Mc'Donalds is offering employment bonuses of a couple thou for people to work the counter and they still cannot hire enough people - then somebody somewhere is not wanting to work.

And where there is a shortage of workers, it will be filled. Contractors and employers here in La. adhere to the same wage and hour laws that exist everywhere. But for some folks in other areas, the wages aren't sufficient for cost of living where they live.

Here in La, we had such an influx of Mexicans after Katrina. The Mexicans had not been here before. Now they're here and not leaving, and the gov't is not forcing illegals to leave.

Argh!

721 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:26:25am

re: #686 Bumr50
And probably has a net worth of more than all of us out here combined +! LOL!
What a great gig he had going for himself.

722 Bloodnok  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:26:29am

re: #712 Sharmuta

My prized Beatle possession is a framed blow-up of the news clip concerning Mr. Kite. It's super gear.

The circus poster? coooool.

723 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:26:54am

re: #722 Bloodnok

Yes- it's totally fab.

724 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:03am

re: #708 newsjunkie_ky

I enjoy when you write about Maisey.

Thanks. Ok, this may seem weird, but it's the truth. I have a new girlfriend and Maisey is VERY jealous of her. So, they other night, Sylvia comes into the apartment, and Maisey starts prancing around one of her perch's squawking at Sylvia.

Then Maisey climbs on to the top of the cage, hanging upside down, showing her "behind" to Sylvia.

Yes, Maisey was "presenting" herself to Sylvia, sort of showing Sylvia what belongs to "Walter." Parrots are very one person birds, and if the person is of the opposite sex, it's even more of a bond.

Maisey is always bending over "presenting" herself to me, and making little "gurgling" noises. Spooky.

725 ryannon  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:30am

re: #619 Bumr50

Beautiful!

How about the best Bob Dylan cover EVER and some beautiful American muscle?

As much as I like the Dead, this is the best Dylan cover ever:

As more, you get the Marianne Faithful story along with it...

726 3 wood  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:33am

re: #715 realwest

Good morning real. Just sent you an email, today does not work out for my schedule, Church and music stuff all day. I sent you some alternatives in the email.

727 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:35am

re: #716 HoosierHoops

I need new friends :-)

728 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:48am

re: #714 Bumr50

Does that have the "Across the Universe" by Fiona Apple?

I think.. When I fire up the Monster drive i'll check..

729 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:27:53am

Actually i can think of 1 time Domestic is justified. In the Army i had a buddy whose wife was very iolent chucked stuff at him all the time on day he decided enough tryed to leave she wouldn't let him posted infront of door and refused to move. He picked her up took their son and went to the Base med Center for stitches while there the MP's showed up and arrested him because the wife called domestic and a neighbor had seen him pick her up to leave. He was given non judicial punishment lost a paygrade and 1/2 month pay for 2 months due to the domestic. I wouldn't have called it as suck especially since he required 8 stiches from not dodging fast enough but courts it was decided a big strong (5'5 140lb little dude) soldier had no justification to lay his hands on a woman no matter the circumstance.

730 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:28:11am

I remember seeing a video a while back with Prince performing the guitar solo from "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" on a stage with Tom Petty and others. I'm not sure if it was a Hard Rock thing or an R & R HOF induction but he absolutely knocked it out of the park.

731 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:28:29am

re: #691 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter, how many folks does your theater hold - either sitting or standing (as at a rock concert)? I wouldn't think McGuinn would be all that big a draw, myself.

732 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:29:23am

re: #660 taxfreekiller

Then I'm nuts. If I understand you correctly.
Americans (at this moment - these things are always in a state of flux) aren't interested in competing for certain jobs which Mexicans are happy to take (at the same pay). That's an easily observed fact -- (I can take you around and show you all over right here where I live). Those dollars converted to Pesos come right back to the US ..... they're no good in Mexico. It all works out. Without the Mexican laborer here in the US, the cost of that product or service he contributed to simply goes up. The American consumer simply buys less of the American good or service or product .... sorry -- don't know the proper economic terms. (Less wealth is created.) The Mexican stays home - where there is no, well - less - opportunity, and less is created here as well. We are each poorer - absolutely. Law of comparative advantage ? ... isn't that the principle? There are of course other wonderful reasons for (arguments for) greater restrictions and or documentation of entry .... but they're not about creating wealth. Your use of the term 'wage slave' gives away your lack of familiarity with capitalism and lack of appreciation for free markets and liberty to freely contract and create wealth. You're using Marxist terminology I think, which is awkward when dealing with non-Marxist concepts.

--Federico ... Nuts

733 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:29:35am

re: #717 Sharmuta

Do not discuss Beatles covers with me.

Por que?

734 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:29:42am

re: #706 MandyManners

So sad but true. And the women that feel that they "asked for it". I've talked to more than one that have said that. I almost want to cry and also slap them up-side the head. I consider myslef a nice guy and see all these women with losers, again and again. I don't understand it. You do have a good point with the money part of it, that's definitly a tough call when it's the street or a black eye. I wish I had the answer.

735 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:29:45am

re: #730 Bumr50

PRINCE

736 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:19am

re: #709 HoosierHoops

I don't think I have ever paid any attention to the soundtrack - that is from the movie with Sean Penn, right?

737 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:24am

re: #719 newsjunkie_ky

Me, too. Jennifer was fluff, hair and makeup (ok she was/is built like a brickhouse), Bailey was gorgeous and built, but they played up Jennie-poo and underplayed Bailey.

It's the "blonde" thing.

738 legalpad  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:58am

re: #701 MandyManners

When a woman depends on her husband's check to pay the bills, there's a huge disincentive to see him go to jail. One way to get around it would be emergency court orders that give the woman 1/2 of the man's pay for mortgage/utilities/food.

And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them.

In the milder cases, just a few good men in a "support group" - be it family, church, or just friends, can protect the victim, make sure the money is properly distributed.

In the extreme cases, the courts are necessary - but there is no substitute for readiness in lethal self-defense.

In the cases where the women defend and lie for their abusers, little can be done, except in rare cases.

739 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:58am

re: #733 MandyManners

Por que?

OOPs.
You used Mexican. I mean Spanish.

740 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:30:58am

Hitting a woman for any reason other than shes coming at ya with a knife is a strict nono tho.

741 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:31:33am

re: #733 MandyManners

Because I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to that. It's one thing live, but don't record it. I'm okay with musical renditions, I guess, though I could live without hearing "Yesterday" as muzac for the bajillionth time.

742 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:32:11am

re: #729 rancher

Actually i can think of 1 time Domestic is justified. In the Army i had a buddy whose wife was very iolent chucked stuff at him all the time on day he decided enough tryed to leave she wouldn't let him posted infront of door and refused to move. He picked her up took their son and went to the Base med Center for stitches while there the MP's showed up and arrested him because the wife called domestic and a neighbor had seen him pick her up to leave. He was given non judicial punishment lost a paygrade and 1/2 month pay for 2 months due to the domestic. I wouldn't have called it as suck especially since he required 8 stiches from not dodging fast enough but courts it was decided a big strong (5'5 140lb little dude) soldier had no justification to lay his hands on a woman no matter the circumstance.

That's a total perversion of justice.

743 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:32:54am

I had the original Sgt. Pepper album with the inserts.
Unfortuantely my sister stole it.

744 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:32:54am

re: #701 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy. "And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them." Would that also include the women who, apparently think "He woudn't hit me or whatever if he didn't really, truly love me?" I mean I've read about Tina Turner and Ike and Whitney Houston and all and both Tina and Whitney sorta said the same thing "It's just his way of showing that he cares about me". Always left me wondering what the hell he'd do if he didn't love 'em but still....?

745 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:24am

re: #734 x-wing

So sad but true. And the women that feel that they "asked for it". I've talked to more than one that have said that. I almost want to cry and also slap them up-side the head. I consider myslef a nice guy and see all these women with losers, again and again. I don't understand it. You do have a good point with the money part of it, that's definitly a tough call when it's the street or a black eye. I wish I had the answer.

I wish the courts could order the victims into DV counselling but, they can't.

746 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:35am

OK. you might think this weird, but Prince is the ONLY dude that can wear make-up and heels and still be sexy.

747 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:42am

re: #725 ryannon

That is an excellent cover, when coupled with the video.

I was reaching with the "best Dylan cover ever" line.
The Band has several that are probably as good.

748 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:51am

re: #724 Walter L. Newton
LOL! I can see it now, Maisey flying over and pooping on Sylvia's head, squawking, 'he's mine, he's mine'.

749 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:33:58am

re: #746 bellamags

OK. you might think this weird, but Prince is the ONLY dude that can wear make-up and heels and still be sexy.

HA!
I don't think it's weird. I'm with ya on that one.

750 Tigger2005  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:34:34am

This was supposed to be much longer. Coleridge began writing it after waking from a dream, was interrupted by an insurance salesman, and by the time he got rid of him, his muse was long gone.

re: #81 pat

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.
So twice five miles of fertile ground
With walls and towers were girdled round:
And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree;
And here were forests ancient as the hills,
Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

But oh! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover!
A savage place! as holy and enchanted
As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
By woman wailing for her demon lover!
And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
A mighty fountain momently was forced:
Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail:
And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
It flung up momently the sacred river.
Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean:
And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
Ancestral voices prophesying war!

The shadow of the dome of pleasure
Floated midway on the waves;
Where was heard the mingled measure
From the fountain and the caves.
It was a miracle of rare device,
A sunny pleasure dome with caves of ice!

A damsel with a dulcimer
In a vision once I saw:
It was an Abyssinian maid,
And on her dulcimer she played,
Singing of Mount Abora.
Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise.

-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

751 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:34:47am

re: #743 Spare O'Lake

I know a Beatle Fan with a copy of the original album with cover and back pictures on the vinyl.

752 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:34:53am

re: #738 legalpad

In the milder cases, just a few good men in a "support group" - be it family, church, or just friends, can protect the victim, make sure the money is properly distributed.

In the extreme cases, the courts are necessary - but there is no substitute for readiness in lethal self-defense.

In the cases where the women defend and lie for their abusers, little can be done, except in rare cases.

When this happens, courts can refuse to allow the victim to withdraw her complaint. Also, if there are kids involved, courts can remove them from both parents.

753 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:05am

re: #749 reine.de.tout

HA!
I don't think it's weird. I'm with ya on that one.

Sweet. I am glad you agree : D and he is a complete genius with a guitar. men with talent really do it for me. : )

754 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:31am

Perversion of justice yes but its the way a lot of the courts see things nowadays. On the plus side the stitches and testimony of their 5 year old did get him custody and out of alimony 2 weeks later when he filed for divorce so he considered teh loss of pay and rank worth it in the end.

755 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:36am

re: #739 reine.de.tout

OOPs.
You used Mexican. I mean Spanish.

Por que es Espanol.

756 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:35:50am

re: #731 realwest

Hey Walter, how many folks does your theater hold - either sitting or standing (as at a rock concert)? I wouldn't think McGuinn would be all that big a draw, myself.

We managed 136 seats (adding a few extra catering chairs) for each show and we were sold out. Hell, we could have had two more shows and sold them out.

He regularly sells out 1-2 thousand seat venues. We were the start of his new tour, and he likes small venues to try out his new shows. And in general, he likes small intimate shows. He varies his booking's between large rooms and places like ours.

And yes, he does draw. The Byrds are credited with developing 3 styles of music in their short career. Folk-rock, country-rock and psychedelic (Eight Miles High).

And he's in the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

And shameless self-promotion... some pics.

[Link: home.comcast.net...]
[Link: home.comcast.net...]
[Link: home.comcast.net...]

757 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:36:08am

re: #740 rancher

Hitting a woman for any reason other than shes coming at ya with a knife is a strict nono tho.

Why let someone with a knife get close enough to make contact?

758 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:36:58am

re: #741 Sharmuta

Because I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to that. It's one thing live, but don't record it. I'm okay with musical renditions, I guess, though I could live without hearing "Yesterday" as muzac for the bajillionth time.

Oh, goodness. I don't know what I was thinking. Well, yes I do. I was thinking about album covers.

759 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:15am

re: #737 MandyManners

It's the "blonde" thing.


Yep. Don't understand that. And she was definately a bottle blonde but that doesn't seem to matter.
I used to be a redhead.

760 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:15am

re: #746 bellamags

OK. you might think this weird, but Prince is the ONLY dude that can wear make-up and heels and still be sexy.

I thought Purple Rain was a good movie...

761 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:20am

re: #751 Sharmuta

I know a Beatle Fan with a copy of the original album with cover and back pictures on the vinyl.

She also stole my White Album with the insert with all the words on it.
Boy I wish I still had those.

762 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:23am

re: #716 HoosierHoops
Huh, I thought "I'll Follow The Sun" was by Gerry and the Pacemakers, no?!
WARNING: could be a senior moment here!

763 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:37:51am

re: #744 realwest

Good morning Mandy. "And, then there are the women who think that they "asked for it", that if they only did X, Y or Z, their abusers wouldn't get mad and hit them." Would that also include the women who, apparently think "He woudn't hit me or whatever if he didn't really, truly love me?" I mean I've read about Tina Turner and Ike and Whitney Houston and all and both Tina and Whitney sorta said the same thing "It's just his way of showing that he cares about me". Always left me wondering what the hell he'd do if he didn't love 'em but still....?

I bet those women--and, their abusers--were raised in atmospheres where DV happened.

764 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:38:10am

For some people any attention even negative is good. There are a number of women I've met whose parents ignored em til something was wrong then whooped on em these same women often grow up and find the same thing in there spouses boyfriends etc and perpetuate a cycle. I really for bad for em but it's there choice and you can't just force em to abandon hte relationship.

765 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:38:37am

re: #748 newsjunkie_ky

LOL! I can see it now, Maisey flying over and pooping on Sylvia's head, squawking, 'he's mine, he's mine'.

I may have posted this a while back, but another girlfriend, a few years ago, was sitting on my couch with me, watching a movie, and Maisey was on top of her cage. She climbed down to the floor, waddled across he floor to my girlfriend and BIT here on her toe.

(Ok, I'll admit it, I laughed till it hurt)

766 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:38:51am

re: #754 rancher

Perversion of justice yes but its the way a lot of the courts see things nowadays. On the plus side the stitches and testimony of their 5 year old did get him custody and out of alimony 2 weeks later when he filed for divorce so he considered teh loss of pay and rank worth it in the end.

I'd say it was well worth it.

767 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:38:52am

re: #758 MandyManners

When homonyms collide.

768 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:04am

re: #747 Bumr50

That is an excellent cover, when coupled with the video.

I was reaching with the "best Dylan cover ever" line.
The Band has several that are probably as good.


I love The Band.

769 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:05am

re: #761 Spare O'Lake

That's bitch!

770 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:26am

re: #759 newsjunkie_ky

Yep. Don't understand that. And she was definately a bottle blonde but that doesn't seem to matter.
I used to be a redhead.

I just don't get the "blonde thing".

771 ryannon  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:46am

re: #724 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. Ok, this may seem weird, but it's the truth. I have a new girlfriend and Maisey is VERY jealous of her. So, they other night, Sylvia comes into the apartment, and Maisey starts prancing around one of her perch's squawking at Sylvia.

Then Maisey climbs on to the top of the cage, hanging upside down, showing her "behind" to Sylvia.

Yes, Maisey was "presenting" herself to Sylvia, sort of showing Sylvia what belongs to "Walter." Parrots are very one person birds, and if the person is of the opposite sex, it's even more of a bond.

Maisey is always bending over "presenting" herself to me, and making little "gurgling" noises. Spooky.


Walter, I suspected there was a deeper bond between us....but I'm a bit embarassed to admit it here....it has to do with birds....mine's not a parrot, but things have gotten to the point where he insists on sleeping with me. He'll also come into the bed, burrow under the blankets and tap me every so lightly with his beak until I start petting him. These cuddle-sessions can go on for a very long time. He' also been known to jump into the tub while I'm taking a bath and take one with with me. I could go on, but I won't.

Except to say that I'm a guy as well, and it doesn't seem to discourage him at all.

Good luck with yours, my friend.

772 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:52am

re: #762 realwest

Huh, I thought "I'll Follow The Sun" was by Gerry and the Pacemakers, no?!
WARNING: could be a senior moment here!

At least you can still remember that you can't remember! LOL.

773 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:39:58am

re: #726 3 wood
Received and replied my friend - hope you and yours are doing well!

774 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:09am

re: #769 Sharmuta

PIMF- less 's on that.

775 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:16am

re: #764 rancher

For some people any attention even negative is good. There are a number of women I've met whose parents ignored em til something was wrong then whooped on em these same women often grow up and find the same thing in there spouses boyfriends etc and perpetuate a cycle. I really for bad for em but it's there choice and you can't just force em to abandon hte relationship.

No but, you can take any kids away.

776 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:19am

re: #735 bellamags

Thanks!

I always put him at the top of my list of underappreciated guitarists. Followed by Joe Walsh.

777 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:20am

re: #769 Sharmuta

That's bitch!

Hi Shar... morning has broken?

778 J.D.  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:26am

re: #762 realwest

Good morning {realwest}, et al.
What's new?

779 Bloodnok  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:34am

When I was a kid I probably destroyed 4 or 5 original copies of Yesterday and Today looking for the elusive Butcher Cover.. I should have been more careful.

780 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:38am

re: #770 MandyManners

I just don't get the "blonde thing".

I don't either.
but blonde seems to be considered "sexier"
unless you're, say, Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry

781 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:45am

Spare O'Lake- want me to get her?

782 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:47am

re: #762 realwest

Huh, I thought "I'll Follow The Sun" was by Gerry and the Pacemakers, no?!
WARNING: could be a senior moment here!

ohhh RW...
yup..senior moment old man..LOL

783 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:40:49am

re: #767 Sharmuta

When homonyms collide.

LOL!

784 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:15am

re: #760 HoosierHoops

I thought Purple Rain was a good movie...

When that movie came out I was not allowed to watch it. I was "too young" (My parents were strict when it came to what I watched). So, when it came out on HBO, I went to a friends house and watched it. It was an event. I will never forget that.

785 samhein  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:31am

I don't know if this has been posted here already, since I have been unable to keep up as of late. If not, this is a copy of the Obama administration's questionnaire that I found online:
[Link: www.isra-pvf.com...]

If it has already made the rounds here, sorry for the repeat. :)

786 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:32am

re: #780 reine.de.tout

I don't either.
but blonde seems to be considered "sexier"
unless you're, say, Cindy Crawford or Halle Berry

Or, Marge Simpson.

787 J.D.  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:41:32am

The cool thing about "senior moments" is that everything old is new again!

788 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:11am

re: #786 MandyManners

Or, Marge Simpson.

LOL

789 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:11am

re: #768 newsjunkie_ky

I'm gonna buy a copy of The Last Waltz as soon as I'm in Borders and remember.

790 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:35am

Aye removing the kids if there are any is always good in those situations i was talking more about feeling concern for the women who didn't share my concern for their own wellbeing.

791 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:42:38am

re: #760 HoosierHoops

I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school....it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!

792 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:08am

re: #765 Walter L. Newton

I may have posted this a while back, but another girlfriend, a few years ago, was sitting on my couch with me, watching a movie, and Maisey was on top of her cage. She climbed down to the floor, waddled across he floor to my girlfriend and BIT here on her toe.

(Ok, I'll admit it, I laughed till it hurt)


ROFLMAO!

793 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:08am

re: #764 rancher

For some people any attention even negative is good. There are a number of women I've met whose parents ignored em til something was wrong then whooped on em. These same women often grow up and find the same thing in there spouses boyfriends etc and perpetuate a cycle. I feel really for bad for em but it's their choice and you can't just force em to abandon the relationship.

Very true. Theodore Dalrymple has written about that in City Journal.

794 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:35am

re: #771 ryannon

Walter, I suspected there was a deeper bond between us....but I'm a bit embarassed to admit it here....it has to do with birds....mine's not a parrot, but things have gotten to the point where he insists on sleeping with me. He'll also come into the bed, burrow under the blankets and tap me every so lightly with his beak until I start petting him. These cuddle-sessions can go on for a very long time. He' also been known to jump into the tub while I'm taking a bath and take one with with me. I could go on, but I won't.

Except to say that I'm a guy as well, and it doesn't seem to discourage him at all.

Good luck with yours, my friend.

No, your story is not strange at all. What kind of bird? Parrots are the most domesticated of all birds, but I have seen other birds on occasion get really "friendly" with their human protectors.

You kind of story happens all the time in the "parrot world."

795 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:43:52am

re: #776 Bumr50

Thanks!

I always put him at the top of my list of underappreciated guitarists. Followed by Joe Walsh.

I agree with you. He is one of the best (and under-appreciated) IMO. He does what he wants to do with his music, image and personal life and he never went "mainstream".

796 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:44:05am

re: #770 MandyManners

I just don't get the "blonde thing".


Me neither. Guys what is it all about?

797 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:44:48am

Duh blondes are dumb and the dumber the better ////

798 Bumr50  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:02am

A good day to all! Gonna go spend time with loved ones ! BBL!

799 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:11am

Rustler still btw not rancher atm.

800 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:34am

re: #797 rancher

Duh blondes are dumb and the dumber the better ////

Mandy, your turn, take over here...

801 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:51am

re: #791 heidi586

I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school....it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!


that's really neat.
I was in Minn. last year for a week..Really like that city..good coffee too.
We partied like it was like 1999.
/

802 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:45:59am

re: #790 rancher

Aye removing the kids if there are any is always good in those situations i was talking more about feeling concern for the women who didn't share my concern for their own wellbeing.

DV is insidious so, sometimes the concern has to be taken off the adult victim and placed on the kids in order to stop the inter-generational cycle.

803 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:10am

Good morning Lizards.....

804 Nevergiveup  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:10am

re: #796 newsjunkie_ky

Me neither. Guys what is it all about?

I like girls with red hair the best so don't ask me.

805 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:13am

re: #799 rancher

You should sign your nic at the end of every post. Walter used to do that and he's Walter!

806 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:41am

re: #796 newsjunkie_ky

Me neither. Guys what is it all about?

Madison Avenue?

807 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:46:48am

Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.

808 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:03am

re: #797 rancher

*whack*

809 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:14am

re: #791 heidi586

I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school....it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!

That would have been so cool. Did you ever see anything?

810 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:49am

re: #789 Bumr50

I'm gonna buy a copy of The Last Waltz as soon as I'm in Borders and remember.


Do, saw it in the theatre and my kids got me a copy of the DVD last year for Christmas.

811 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:53am

Lol Sharm i hate signing things tho hopefully ill still be awake when charles opens registration tonight if he does.

Rustler

812 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:47:59am

re: #770 MandyManners

Wait a minute...newsjunkie WAS a redhead? WTH. Why change from a redhead?

813 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:06am

re: #732 Fearless Fred

Those dollars converted to Pesos come right back to the US ..... they're no good in Mexico.

I'm not going to speak for tfk but there is quite a bit of money going back to Mexico to pay for family member basics that never comes back to the U.S. The Mexican Government even tracks it and expresses a great deal of concern when there is a drop.

Mexicans are over here because of the state of affairs of their own country. The question in large part is whether having a lax attitude about illegal immigration is actually enabling a continuation and expansion of this. Please see the Young Thomas Sowell video in the "Best Links" section up at the top to get a flavor of what I am thinking.

In my mind this is a very complex situation. The Houston area is a cheap place to live in part because of illegal Mexican labor but understanding ALL of the cost is not the easiest thing to do.

814 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:44am

re: #805 Sharmuta

You should sign your nic at the end of every post. Walter used to do that and he's Walter!

Hi. Yes, but I did it because I am a shameless self-promoter. (LOL at myself).

I still do it off and on, but only when I have commented on something where my location adds meaning to what I have said. Such as "it's freezing this morning" or something like that.

Walter in Golden, Co.

815 Nevergiveup  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:45am

Last update - 09:12 16/11/2008

U.S. study urges Obama to press Israel over nuclear program

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Leftist Jews here in the USA will be so pleased!

816 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:47am

re: #807 rancher

Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.

Marilyn Monroe? Betty Grable? Jane Mansfield? They predate MTV by a long shot. (Despite Madonna's attempt to paint herself as Marilyn in that earlier video.)

817 legalpad  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:54am

re: #771 ryannon

What the hell are you guys talking about?!/

818 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:58am

And what's the thing about redheads too, guys?

819 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:48:59am

re: #807 rancher

Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.

80's ahhhh
the era of the big hair...
like dorian..
morning dorian...Speaking of Prince..How's that Red Corvette Dorian?

820 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:09am

re: #802 MandyManners

DV is insidious so, sometimes the concern has to be taken off the adult victim and placed on the kids in order to stop the inter-generational cycle.

Agreed. The problem is the placement of said children afterwards. Often they do not end up in a good situation but just get bounced around instead.

821 J.D.  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:12am

re: #797 rancher

Duh blondes are dumb and the dumber the better ////

Hey, I represent that! lol

822 3 wood  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:29am

The housing start numbers are very low:

Housing starts expected to hit half-century low
Consumer prices falling at fastest pace in 60 years, economists say

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Few observers have ever seen anything like the economic data that will be released in the coming week, with the consumer price index and housing starts each expected to breach records dating back to the late 1940s.
With the global economy descending into a nasty recession, the October data could send a chill down the spine of policymakers, who are pulling out all the tricks in their tool kit to prevent a wider meltdown.
As everyone knows, this downturn began in the housing sector, with a global credit bubble inflating U.S. home prices, and homebuilders responding with a frenzy of construction. Now that the bubble has collapsed, everyone is looking to housing for any sign that the worst may be over.
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said last week that "market turmoil will not abate until the biggest part of the housing correction is behind us."
It's not behind us yet.

And the housing situation will stabilize when the employment situation stabilizes. Which willnot be for a while yet:

Cymer plans to cut 85, or 8%, of worldwide jobs

Fidelity to lay off 1,700 employees in early 2009: WSJ

And so forth....

For those with money still in the stock market, I have the following advice:

Take a very long term view of the market now, and understand that the market is going to be damn bad for a while yet. Maybe a year or two until it tuns around.

But that also makes it a buying opportunity, and there are very under priced stocks out there now. You can set yourself up to make a whole lot of money down the road by picking up some of these bargains now and being patient.

We may not see a buying opportunity like this for 20 years.

823 realwest  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:32am

re: #735 bellamags
SWEET! I don't recognize the picker doing the lead, but that was Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne (of ELO) and someone else from the Traveling Willburys and right next to Tom is George Harrison's song - very young, playing accoustic guitar and singing - sort of!
Great video, THANK YOU!

824 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:49am

Aye but in the monroe years it wasn't really about the hair it was the legs : P
Rustler

825 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:51am

re: #801 HoosierHoops

It is a nice area..you have all the 'big city' extras with a small town friendliness. We now live about 2 1/2 hours north/east of the cities so we use it for the theater, concerts, and shopping...but go back home to our farm.

826 Nevergiveup  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:53am

re: #818 Sharmuta

And what's the thing about redheads too, guys?

A jewish or irish thing?

827 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:49:54am

re: #807 rancher

Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.

You know I think you are right. Guys that are in their late 30's to late 40's seem to like that voluptuous, stiletto heel, tight jeans and big hair thing (totally 1980's retro look) The younger guys seem to prefer the waify light skinned small girl thing and if you follow music trends it fits.

828 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:25am

re: #768 newsjunkie_ky

I love The Band.

Me too. I saw them live in an outdoor concert in Toronto around 1970. Opening acts were Edgar Winters and White Heat, and the guy who played the piano and sang his one hit "Do You Know What I Mean".

829 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:45am

re: #815 Nevergiveup

Last update - 09:12 16/11/2008

U.S. study urges Obama to press Israel over nuclear program

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Leftist Jews here in the USA will be so pleased!

Toward this goal, the United States should change its relatively new policy of seeking a cutoff treaty that does not include verification. The Bush administration's rejection of the long-standing U.S. policy of requiring verification was a mistake that the incoming administration needs to rectify."

Lunacy stalks humanity.

830 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:50am

re: #818 Sharmuta

And what's the thing about redheads too, guys?

dunno..Married a Blonde

831 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:50:54am

re: #807 rancher

Allthough i blame music for the modern fixation on blondes. It was almost a requirement in MTV's early years to load videos with blondes and i think it instilled in the youth a sense that if rockers want blondes thats what hot.

Ah, you must be young if you think MTV was the nexus for "the blond thing." It goes back at least as far as black and white movies. It was easy to identify a woman's hair color if it was blond, where as brunette and black and other dark colors tended to look very much the same.

So, there was a preference to stand out with lighter colored hair.

832 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:02am

re: #818 Sharmuta

Don't ask me, I have natural red highlights. ;)

/red hair, green eyes and freckles make me . . . . *swooon*

833 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:17am

re: #806 MandyManners

Madison Avenue?

Probably the main reason.

834 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:33am

re: #823 realwest

SWEET! I don't recognize the picker doing the lead, but that was Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne (of ELO) and someone else from the Traveling Willburys and right next to Tom is George Harrison's song - very young, playing accoustic guitar and singing - sort of!
Great video, THANK YOU!

Your welcome : )

835 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:33am

"With redheads its all about the temperment fiery head, fiery temper, fire in the sack." attributed to Richard Carnes old friend with big red head fetish

Rustler

836 J.D.  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:51:59am

re: #822 3 wood

My son called yesterday (from CA) to tell me he had just read about a migrant strawberry picker who makes $14,000/year and was approved by WaMu for a $700,000+ loan for a house. I mean...seriously!

837 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:00am

re: #813 unclassifiable

I'm not going to speak for tfk but there is quite a bit of money going back to Mexico to pay for family member basics that never comes back to the U.S. The Mexican Government even tracks it and expresses a great deal of concern when there is a drop.

Mexicans are over here because of the state of affairs of their own country. The question in large part is whether having a lax attitude about illegal immigration is actually enabling a continuation and expansion of this. Please see the Young Thomas Sowell video in the "Best Links" section up at the top to get a flavor of what I am thinking.

In my mind this is a very complex situation. The Houston area is a cheap place to live in part because of illegal Mexican labor but understanding ALL of the cost is not the easiest thing to do.

Finally, someone other than me talking about how this is a complex situation, no easy fix.

838 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:09am

re: #781 Sharmuta

Spare O'Lake- want me to get her?

Thanks, but you'd never know what hit you.
LOL.

839 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:16am

re: #818 Sharmuta

It's all brain wiring. No reason will suffice and I will offer none.

Good morning Sharm :)

840 MandyManners  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:20am

re: #820 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. The problem is the placement of said children afterwards. Often they do not end up in a good situation but just get bounced around instead.

Maybe they could be placed with extended family but, both the victim and the perp likely learned their roles from those people. Get both into immediate and intensive counselling. It ain't cheap, though, for the tax-payers. However, it's cheaper than not stopping it.

841 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:31am

re: #812 x-wing

Wait a minute...newsjunkie WAS a redhead? WTH. Why change from a redhead?

It's called the aging process.

842 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:34am

re: #808 MandyManners

*whack*

Is that an admission if being blonde? ;>}

/whiter smoke

843 heidi586  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:35am

re: #809 bellamags

We did see Morris Day and the Time walking in once...that was enough to send us all into a screaming frenzies.

844 rancher  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:42am

Yeah I'm young only 29.

845 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:52:46am

re: #819 HoosierHoops

80's ahhhh
the era of the big hair...
like dorian..
morning dorian...Speaking of Prince..How's that Red Corvette Dorian?

Let's not speak about my Vette.... Still has a cracked windshield and I cant afford to fix it right now. Way to many other bills to pay, like fixing the Camery so it will pass smog, and getting the Vette smog'd...

846 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:53:09am

re: #703 Bumr50

I don't know where you're from, but I don't drink anymore and am sick of the mojito marketing.

Mojito this, mojito that. The uppity types just seem to like to say the word, because it's new and all.

I guess I kind of went off there...sorry.

no need for apology....I know what you mean though. many people seem to choose their beverage on whats "hot"

847 alegrias  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:53:48am

"MIXED-STATUS" is how people of "different nationalities" living in the USA are to be called henceforth.

So says the WashPost's Kari Lydersen on P. A-4 in today's TrashPost.

"Mixed-Status" Families Look to Obama...TFK was right. Tomorrow McCain & Obama meet to discuss these Mixed Status Not Americans.

848 bellamags  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:54:45am

re: #837 reine.de.tout

Finally, someone other than me talking about how this is a complex situation, no easy fix.

Why don't we build centers in Mexico that can service the community IN MEXICO? I know we shouldn't in theory, but we are already spending billions. there is no way to turn back now. We can do it cheaper there and employ Mexicans to work in their own communities.

849 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:54:52am

Ok, off to shower and then back for a moment and then off to the theatre. We got a 2:00 PM matinee. Don't talk about me when I'm gone./

850 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:54:53am

re: #838 Spare O'Lake

Really? Cuz I can take a hit. I've escaped Azriel on more than one occasion.

851 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:54:56am

re: #845 doriangrey

Let's not speak about my Vette.... Still has a cracked windshield and I cant afford to fix it right now. Way to many other bills to pay, like fixing the Camery so it will pass smog, and getting the Vette smog'd...

Well you're in luck!
Obama has a plan for you..
/
//sorry dude

852 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:03am

re: #818 Sharmuta

And what's the thing about redheads too, guys?

Cough cough, ummm arnt you a Redhead?

853 Truck Monkey  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:04am

re: #791 heidi586

I was living in Minneapolis during my Jr & Sr years of high school....it was during the Purple Rain/Prince mania. We used to spend our Friday nights driving around downtown, 7th street club, where Prince played - we were too young to get in..so we just hoped to catch a glimpse..ahhaaa!

I actually tried to serve Prince some legal papers back when he was at his zenith. Impossible to get close to him. I did see and talk to Chick several times though. He scared the crap out of this little old college kid. We eventually had to give the Hennepin County Sheriffs office the papers to serve.

854 x-wing  Sun, Nov 16, 2008 7:55:07am