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If the Republicans can put Border Patrol officers in prison for 10 years for intercepting a known drug mule illegal and attempting to arrest him, think of what Obama and the A.C.L.U. dominated Supreme Court and the U.S. Justice Dept. will do to you.
When Obama takes away everyone's (effective) weaponry, it'll be all over but the crying.
To quote the late great Charlton Heston, (ummm, he played the part of me, in a movie...I was a little to short, for the role...lol)..."Out of my cold dead hands".
When Obama takes away everyone's (effective) weaponry, it'll be all over but the crying.
Well, if everyone who has guns plans to give them up to the government without a fight, seems to me there's really not much point in having them in the first place.
Yes, they do, and when I use preview, I still make mistakes.
I was just pointing out that the "edit" function actually does exist.
When I post a comment, even if there are no mistakes in the body of the comment itself, sometimes there are things that I would like to add...or even subtract.
Sometimes you remember something you left out...only moments after you clicked that magic button. You wish you could have added that something, but alas...the comment is forever irretrievable.
When I post a comment, even if there are no mistakes in the body of the comment itself, sometimes there are things that I would like to add...or even subtract.
Sometimes you remember something you left out...only moments after you clicked that magic button. You wish you could have added that something, but alas...the comment is forever irretrievable.
As you approach the Library, you are immediately blinded by the sun-like radiance emanating from His Eminence's mighty gold-plated statue, which is approximately ten feet taller than the Statue of Liberty (before it was destroyed in the tragedy of 2011). You can pause to read the inscription by Maya Angelou projected on the base: "By the rainbow's pulse, the sun of a new dawn rises upon the land, the indigo giant awakens, the oceans fall, heed His call, O citizen of the world!"
Not to be outdone, the gleaming marble of the massive Main Hall (the Temple of Obama) now greets your eyes. White fluted columns support it. You mount the 57 steps and enter the citadel. What will greet you there? It changes day to day. A Code Pink/Breasts Not Bombs dance? A UN child choir concert? An Obama film festival? But always you will behold the Great Seal of Obama upon the marble floor, the permanent display of Revolutionary art, and ongoing services in the Worship Hall (you may have to visit the Secondary Worship Hall, as the Muslim worshipers have forced almost all infidels out of the main sanctuary).
Going on, you enter "The Bus," which pays tribute to the many influences on Obama's life. In this long building are halls for Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinsky, ACORN, the Reverend Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Father Phleger, Bill Ayers, Rashid Khalidi, Khalid al-Mansour, and many others. There is also a room set aside for Obama's writings other than his biographies. Look carefully, it's small and easy to miss. But you owe it to yourself to read el Presidente's bad poetry.
The Bus passes over the Meditation Gardens and the huge crescent-shaped Meditation Pools. Here you will find large bay windows framing a Starbucks. Outdoor tables are available. Stop, enjoy a latte, and listen to the gently lapping waters and flowing fountains as you breathe in the scents of the 100% organic gardens. For $50 you can rent a paddle-boat.
Off by itself across the South Pool is the Hall of Sealed Records. You can't go there. All potentially incriminating stuff from Obama's past and his years in the White House is in there under lock and key, until the last of his political enemies who might dare attempt to stain his glorious legacy is eliminated. Some particularly sensitive material has already been shredded and atomized. (But his nirth certificate is still there!)
We hope you've enjoyed your visit. Please visit the gift shop back in the main hall and pick up your Obama booty and signed copies of his biographies (purchase several of each). You can also get your copy of the 6,785 page Global Constitution, to which Obama was the first signatory!
MINNEAPOLIS - Democrat Al Franken says he’ll be in Washington, D.C., this week to meet with Democratic Senate leaders.
There’s an orientation for new senators being held this week, but Franken told WCCO-TV on Sunday that it would be too presumptuous to attend the orientation with the race between him and Republican Sen. Norm Coleman still unsettled.
Don’t back him for Cabinet
By Christine McConville
A controversial comment at a Cambridge conference may cost former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers a second stint in the Cabinet.
“I’m concerned about his judgment and ability to listen,” said Nancy Hopkins, a biology professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and one of the many women who say they are concerned about Summers’ rumored appointment as President-elect Barack Obama’s Treasury secretary.
In 2005, Hopkins walked out of an academic conference after Summers, the keynote speaker and the president of Harvard University at the time, said that innate differences between men and women might be one reason fewer women succeed in science and math careers.
This will be a fight I'll enjoy watching. Moonbat v. Moonbat is always thoroughly entertaining...
Well, if everyone who has guns plans to give them up to the government without a fight, seems to me there's really not much point in having them in the first place.
Want to make a liberal's head explode? Tell them you only use your guns to perform partial-birth abortions.
Is it too early to declare him "President Zero, greatest failure in US presidential history"?
It's too early to call him that, but feel free to call him "President-Elect Zero, greatest probable failure in US presidential history." That should tide you over for the next two months.
/without Jedi mind tricks or outright cheating, there ain't no way he comes up with another 206 votes during the recount, it's pretty much statistically impossible, the ballots have already been canvassed and certified once, where they only found about a dozen more Franken votes
Man, I can't believe the tom-foolery going on up there. Small towns sending in hundreds of unexpetedly lost votes. :facepalm:
He wants access to the rejected absentee ballots. You know what that means.
I was a challenger for the NH Republican Party on election day and saw to it that several absentee ballots were tossed. They were same-day registrations sent in with an absentee ballot. In most cases I challenged because they had not signed the affidavit in both places. You just know Al is going to want these such ballots to be counted - if they are Dems, that is.
As I stood behind the same-day registration table and watched person after person circling "DEMOCRAT" as their party affiliation I was more and more convinced that McCain was going down in NH.
/without Jedi mind tricks or outright cheating, there ain't no way he comes up with another 206 votes during the recount, it's pretty much statistically impossible, the ballots have already been canvassed and certified once, where they only found about a dozen more Franken votes
No, they found a few hundred more, and every single one of them was for Franken.
/without Jedi mind tricks or outright cheating, there ain't no way he comes up with another 206 votes during the recount, it's pretty much statistically impossible, the ballots have already been canvassed and certified once, where they only found about a dozen more Franken votes
I'll take 'outright cheating', then, for $400, Alex.
yeah, finally...D'Head is looking tropical, not desert like these days.
oh good. I keep an eye on Hawaiian real estate (just for fun) and other things island related, and I've noticed the dryness.
How is the vog these day?
(send the rain over to CA when through, thanks. :-))
Did Al Fwanken run on the Stewart Smalley ("I'm good enough, I'm smart enough,I'm strong enough.. and goshdarnit people like me") gambit? This guy is more of a joke when he's trying to be serious.
If the Republicans can put Border Patrol officers in prison for 10 years for intercepting a known drug mule illegal and attempting to arrest him, think of what Obama and the A.C.L.U. dominated Supreme Court and the U.S. Justice Dept. will do to you.
All they have to do is read the post here and we are all domed.
Vog has been cleared out by the trades and rain on the Northern end of the state.
If you can get the money, now is the time to BUY here.
Nice for you!
I'd love to, but I'm not there yet. With the democrat's up and coming confiscatory punitive tax schemes - I'll have less investment money on hand.
but I can dream...
I agree with you KB, but the bar is very low. Franken only needs to gain one vote in every eighth or ninth precinct to win. That's why he wants to see the absentee data. He's going to want the absentee ballots to count, even if they were systemically rejected due for statuatory reasons. I smell some more divining of the vote. Gosh that was torture in 2000. What a circus.
P.S. in the article of course the comment section is overrun with moonbats defending ACORN mickey mouse registrations and the like.
Small DEMOCRAT towns. They are finding these votes in Democrat towns only, according to radio host Jason Lewis (who I think is from MN).
THEY'RE DONE FINDING BALLOTS!
/now they face the steep uphill battle of trying to find 206 more votes from the existing universe of known ballots, which have already been recounted once
Right, but now all the precincts have been rechecked and certified.
/they're fresh out of legal ways to pull 206 more votes out of their asses
I heard they are going to impose "intent" into the recount. If someone voted for Obama and other Dems but didn't vote for either Coleman or Frankenstein, it will be assumed that they intended to vote for the Dem Franken but somehow missed it. Sounds absurd. But apparently it's possible.
I heard they are going to impose "intent" into the recount. If someone voted for Obama and other Dems but didn't vote for either Coleman or Frankenstein, it will be assumed that they intended to vote for the Dem Franken but somehow missed it. Sounds absurd. But apparently it's possible.
They just aint right. If someone undervoted, then they undervoted. That was their intent. No court should ever count undervotes. They might as well say people who didn't show up to vote had an intent to vote one way or another.
The fact that Franken is even close to Coleman is bad enough. The fact that Franken is trying to outright steal this election is even worse. That "man" is a pathetic windbag. If he gets in, about 50% of MN should be looking pretty hard that the other 50%, wondering what the f*ck they are thinking.
If it's anything like Broward Co., et al, FL, c. 2000, they certainly are not. About 6 months from now, stacks and stacks of ballots will be found...
Hidden behind drawers in file cabinets, in pollworkers homes, etc.
All Republican, of course.
If it's anything like Broward Co., et al, FL, c. 2000, they certainly are not. About 6 months from now, stacks and stacks of ballots will be found...
Hidden behind drawers in file cabinets, in pollworkers homes, etc.
All Republican, of course.
Yes, they are busy finding votes for Frankenstein right now
The fact that Franken is even close to Coleman is bad enough. The fact that Franken is trying to outright steal this election is even worse. That "man" is a pathetic windbag. If he gets in, about 50% of MN should be looking pretty hard that the other 50%, wondering what the f*ck they are thinking.
It had a strong third party contender, so it's only like 34%-34% of Minnesotans giving each other the stink eye.
That;s right...what's the deal with that other guy? He took 300,000 votes away from someone? Was it more of a loss for Coleman or a lost for Frankenstein?
Actually, that picture is of a 35-foot palm tree being inundated by Conservatogenic Global Warming. Obama will soon have things put to right, though, so have no fear.
He's going to want the absentee ballots to count, even if they were systemically rejected due for statuatory reasons.
Well, good luck with that. Even if he miraculously prevails, the rejected ballots should split evenly, although arguably Franken voters are way more stupid than Coleman voters.
/Minnesota law bends over backward to count every vote, but there's limits, you have to cast your absentee ballot correctly or it will be rejected by law
Thanks to the Social Engineering of Carter, Clinton, ACORN, Raines, Frank and Dobbs, we've already had layoffs at my office.
We are directly affected by the housing market and we are looking at the worst of all possible outcomes if O-Liar follows through with his Socialist agenda.
DEMOCRATS LIED!
MY 401K DIED!
That;s right...what's the deal with that other guy? He took 300,000 votes away from someone? Was it more of a loss for Coleman or a lost for Frankenstein?
I haven't really looked into that but considering it's Minn, I would suspect the third party guy was a Greenie or something along those lines. Maybe a Ventura clone. In the former case it would have hurt Franken, in the later, Coleman.
In my district, I voted straight Republican all the way down the ticket... until I came to our local Alderman election. I refused to vote at all there, because ''my man" used our church directory as his campaign mailing list, and when I confronted him, he just literally laughed it off with the used-car-salesman-Billy-Mays-attitude of "Hey! It's legal!"
Small DEMOCRAT towns. They are finding these votes in Democrat towns only, according to radio host Jason Lewis (who I think is from MN).
I believe a couple of the towns were Two Harbors and Mountain Iron which are both in northeastern MN. That's the iron range (Two Harbors isn't technically on the iron range, but is a port on Lake Superior where trains from the range offload their cargo onto ships) - a lot union members that vote for Democrats (Kerry got over 65% of the vote in 2004).
In MN - I think the left-dems have a plan for close elections. That's why they are always seen smiling.
Certain leftist election people keep stacks blank ballots in case of emergency. Then they fill out the ballots after the fact and say "Hey look what I found in the back of my car." "oh... and they are all for Franken."
Gotta count every vote.
I believe a couple of the towns were Two Harbors and Mountain Iron which are both in northeastern MN. That's the iron range (Two Harbors isn't technically on the iron range, but is a port on Lake Superior where trains from the range offload their cargo onto ships) - a lot union members that vote for Democrats (Kerry got over 65% of the vote in 2004).
Keys that jingle in your pocket
Words that jangle in your head
Why did summer go so quickly?
Was it something that I said?
Lovers walk along a shore
And leave their footprints in the sand
Was the sound of distant drumming
Just the fingers of your hand?
Pictures hanging in a hallway
Or the fragment of a song
Half-remembered names and faces
But to whom do they belong?
When you knew that it was over
Were you suddenly aware
That the autumn leaves were turning
To the colour of her hair?
Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever-spinning reel
As the images unwind
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind
Local election official: Someone call the capitol, I'm so embarassed, I forgot to turn in these 230 votes, all for Franken, that I found on my front porch step this morning!
I heard they are going to impose "intent" into the recount. If someone voted for Obama and other Dems but didn't vote for either Coleman or Frankenstein, it will be assumed that they intended to vote for the Dem Franken but somehow missed it. Sounds absurd. But apparently it's possible.
That's total and complete bull[expletive deleted]. Lots of people just voted for President.
/now, by Minnesota law, if someone circled or used an"x" or some other intentional marking that can reasonably be construed as a vote for either candidate, as opposed to blackening the oval like you learned to do in fourth grade, that vote will count
In MN - I think the left-dems have a plan for close elections. That's why they are always seen smiling.
Certain leftist election people keep stacks blank ballots in case of emergency. Then they fill out the ballots after the fact and say "Hey look what I found in the back of my car." "oh... and they are all for Franken."
Gotta count every vote.
The attorney general has connections to Acorn. I read an article that the Democrats have put a lot of effort into getting attorney generals elected, so they will have control over close elections. Looks like it was a smart plan on their part.
Local election official: Someone call the capitol, I'm so embarassed, I forgot to turn in these 230 votes, all for Franken, that I found on my front porch step this morning!
Didn't one of the officials find over 30 votes (all for Frankenstein) in the back seat of the his/her car?
Thanks to the Social Engineering of Carter, Clinton, ACORN, Raines, Frank and Dobbs, we've already had layoffs at my office.
We are directly affected by the housing market and we are looking at the worst of all possible outcomes if O-Liar follows through with his Socialist agenda.
DEMOCRATS LIED!
MY 401K DIED!
Yikes. It's scary - and none of us are safe from a job cut. and while the Republicans should be screaming about Fannie and Freddie and the corrupt ineptitude of democrats who used Fannie and Freddie for their own personal piggy bank - we get hosed.
I remember hearing on the local news in HI (this was a few years back) about a family living on welfare in Oahu. They were living high off the hog, the husband had a job with a nice income, and somehow they managed to screw the state out of a ton of money. and it was just ONE family.
Democrat takers - give em a inch and they take a mile.
It looks like the third guy in that MN race was from the Independence Party...an off shoot of Jesse Ventura with links to a Ross Perot-type mentality. I am guessing that if this guy was not on the ballot, Coleman would have won big. If Franken wins, we can all thank Dean Barkley.
The attorney general has connections to Acorn. I read an article that the Democrats have put a lot of effort into getting attorney generals elected, so they will have control over close elections. Looks like it was a smart plan on their part.
Didn't one of the officials find over 30 votes (all for Frankenstein) in the back seat of the his/her car?
I remember when I was in the military if someone had classified information wrongly stored in their car or left out somewhere, we assumed it was accessed illicitly. You'd have to make a similar assumption of ballots found in someone's car. How can they be sure they are legit?
The Dems always play hardball...they do not mess around. By hook or crook, whatever it takes...Why is it the Republicans cannot see that and refuse to react to it?
It's so sad that thing are coming to that but we all have to ask our selves when is enough enough?
"If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, then eventually we have to face the final demand--the ultimatum. And what then? When Nikita Krushchev has told his people he knows what our answer will be? He has told them that we are retreating under the pressure of the Cold War and that one day, when the time comes to delivery the ultimatum our surrender will be voluntary because by that time, we will have weakened from within spiritually, morally, and economically. He believes this because from our side he has heard voices pleading for peace at any price, or better Red than dead, or as one commentator put it, he'd rather live on his knees than die on his feet. And therein lies the road to war, because those voices don't speak for the rest of us. You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery."
The attorney general has connections to Acorn. I read an article that the Democrats have put a lot of effort into getting attorney generals elected, so they will have control over close elections. Looks like it was a smart plan on their part.
Ohio's AG fits that description. She made it so there could be no poll observers during the same day registration/vote week. Among other shit.
Didn't one of the officials find over 30 votes (all for Frankenstein) in the back seat of the his/her car?
That's turning out to be a bit of an urban myth and it was 32.
/they key thing is that now they're fighting over a known universe of ballots that have been already counted twice, you're just not going to see huge swings anymore and Norm only has to end up winning by one, so he's got 204 to give
Yeh some CA Dem is pushing for it. Gonna promise to restore the principal to before crash levels mto con us into it. Would also take away tax-exempt status.
I remember when I was in the military if someone had classified information wrongly stored in their car or left out somewhere, we assumed it was accessed illicitly. You'd have to make a similar assumption of ballots found in someone's car. How can they be sure they are legit?
They don't care if they're legit. They were for Franken.
It looks like the third guy in that MN race was from the Independence Party...an off shoot of Jesse Ventura with links to a Ross Perot-type mentality. I am guessing that if this guy was not on the ballot, Coleman would have won big. If Franken wins, we can all thank Dean Barkley.
When Wellstone died, Ventura appointed Barkley to finish the term (only a few months). I suspect Barkley also drew some votes from Democrats who would never vote for a Republican, but couldn't stand Franken. I wonder of there was any exit polling to determine who Barkley hurt the most?
That's turning out to be a bit of an urban myth and it was 32.
/they key thing is that now they're fighting over a known universe of ballots that have been already counted twice, you're just not going to see huge swings anymore and Norm only has to end up winning by one, so he's got 204 to give
I hope you're right. Franken in the Senate is just too much of a bad thing.
I hope you're right. Franken in the Senate is just too much of a bad thing.
Wouldn't Franken be the fillibuster-proof minority buster? If so, I'd be prepared for some real shenanigans. Especially since Stevens is now toast in Alaska.
The Dems always play hardball...they do not mess around. By hook or crook, whatever it takes...Why is it the Republicans cannot see that and refuse to react to it?
Too busy playing golf, too busy worrying about nonsense, too busy saying dumb stuff and ignoring the corrupt pink donkey in the room... ?
If we could answer that, we might also begin to answer why republicans keep losing ground.
The combination of corrupt, desperate-to-win power hungry democrats and complacent do-nothing Republicans is why we are looking at freaks like Harry and Nancy to "govern" us.
Wouldn't Franken be the fillibuster-proof minority buster? If so, I'd be prepared for some real shenanigans. Especially since Stevens is now toast in Alaska.
Was it here on LGF that I read about the Dems discussing confiscating our 401K's and replacing them with GRA's at a 3% return.
RIP
401K
1998 - 2010
Talk radio and blogs. The democrats just want to micro-manage everything to death. Bail out every failing union backed or corrupt enterprise and steal our 401s to do it. "in the name of fairness"
Talk radio and blogs. The democrats just want to micro-manage everything to death. Bail out every failing union backed or corrupt enterprise and steal our 401s to do it. "in the name of fairness"
They want to bail out union jobs because they happen to be Democrat backers.
Wouldn't Franken be the fillibuster-proof minority buster? If so, I'd be prepared for some real shenanigans. Especially since Stevens is now toast in Alaska.
No.
/the would still need to beat Saxby Chambliss and hold on to Joe Lieberman
Too busy playing golf, too busy worrying about nonsense, too busy saying dumb stuff and ignoring the corrupt pink donkey in the room... ?
If we could answer that, we might also begin to answer why republicans keep losing ground.
The combination of corrupt, desperate-to-win power hungry democrats and complacent do-nothing Republicans is why we are looking at freaks like Harry and Nancy to "govern" us.
We need a new crop of Republicans with some fight in them, that's all there is to it. Come on, how many do we need? Two Senators per state and a handful of representatives. Maybe we can find them among the small business owners who will soon have to close up shop.
I remember reading the article. I will see if I can find it in my pile o crap.
Maybe the dems can manage my laundry too. I keep putting the bleach in where the fabric softner is supposed to go in this new machine.
If it involves amnesty or give away programs, he mostly likely will...
Or Judges. I heard him explain it before. And he would move to solely vote up or down based solely on judical qualifacations and not there ruling record.
His problem is he assumes the Dems will offer the same courtesy and sense of fair play when the tables are turned. He's been there long enough to know that the Dems will glady take your vote when they need it, but will never, ever, under any circumstances reciprocate.
And therein lies the road to war, because those voices don't speak for the rest of us. You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery."
Ronald Reagan, "A Time For Choosing" speech, 1964
My family was here from the beginning they came here on the Mayflower we have all worked hard to make this country great but sad to say that the baby boom generation of my family for the most part has gone socialist if not Marxist they work for and get paid by the state and city Governments where I work and give my time for free to the State and City Governments and work in the private sector. I will not give up I will not relent I will stay the thorn in there side till the day I die no mater how that comes!
The Democrats are already too damn close to a filibuster-proof majority. One more could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. There are at least a couple of RINOs in there that will probably vote for cloture.
One small hope we have is that some "moderate" Dems stay moderate. I'm not counting on it though. Especially since we can't count on McCain either. He likes to be nice, ya know.
One small hope we have is that some "moderate" Dems stay moderate. I'm not counting on it though. Especially since we can't count on McCain either. He likes to be nice, ya know.
Yeah, there is even less need for McCain to posture himself anymore. It's hard to predict how he will roll.
So this is how getting your tail kicked looks? Hoping against hope for a victory by a convicted felon. GO TED!
I don't know, the best result would be Ted steps down so that the Governor could appoint a worthy replacement. That's the value of winning the seat rather than losing it.
That's entirely possible. Probable, even, on the right legislation (think amnesty). I was never thrilled with McCain. It's just that he was so much better when you compared him to his opposition.
Yeah, who would you want sitting across the table from Vladimir "hang him by his balls" Putin?
It is a sad state of affairs when we are pulling for the felon to win a senate race. As for myself, I hope he never gets elected to another thing again, and if we lose any chance of a filibuster, so be it. The man does not belong in the Senate.
It is a sad state of affairs when we are pulling for the felon to win a senate race. As for myself, I hope he never gets elected to another thing again, and if we lose any chance of a filibuster, so be it. The man does not belong in the Senate.
Well, for one, he's 84 years old, so your point is fairly a moot one.
A little OT but here goes.
I think there is a simple principle that Republicans have overlooked, at their peril - the principle of confronting lies, each and every time they're met. If this is not done then the lie ends up becoming a reality. Case in point - the 2000 election, where arguably the side that was trying to steal was the Democrats, yet the impression that remained is that Bush stole it. Even after all the media - the same traitorous ones that fell all over each other trying to publish sensitive national security information - went to Florida after the election and verified that Bush, had won. Yet 'Bush stole the election' was endlessly repeated and has entered the national consciousness. Liberals being the projection artists that they are, have no doubt convinced themselves, self-righteously, that whatever they need to do for Franken to win is justified.
This is the price we pay for not aggressively confronting lies everywhere they're met. i've caught myself countless times screaming at the TV as a notable republican just let's comments slide by without challenge.
We already have the media openly against us. Let's not aid them in their task by sitting by silently when lies are told...
We need a new crop of Republicans with some fight in them, that's all there is to it. Come on, how many do we need? Two Senators per state and a handful of representatives. Maybe we can find them among the small business owners who will soon have to close up shop.
That's the problem. Democrats and leftist love to micro-mange and nanny state other people. Republicans just don't think like that.
Conservatives get up in the morning and think - "I'm going to take on the day and work hard to fulfill my dreams, and take care of me and mine."
Democrats wake up each day and think feel -- "I''m going to stop people from doing this this and this... I'm going to kill that persons dream for the common good, I'm going to make life difficult for person A so person B can benefit... I'm going to stop this and say no to that and raise this tax to pay for that bullshit. and I'm going to stop global warming..." etc.. Democrats are just better suited for government jobs and bureaucracy in general.
but I agree with you - we need a fresh crop of fighting repubs to fight for us. & no more bailouts. Enough.
Why the hell do so many supposedly intelligent people think we've had fascism for the past eight years? They wouldn't know fascism if it bit them in the arse.
Lizards, prayers please for the families of the two Kiowa pilots killed yesterday. It was an accident
One of them was a friend of mine and my husbands'. He was a great person, so warm and funny.
Athiest Lizards, sending out good vibes would be appreciated too.
RIP. Words can't ease the loss of shuttered down young lives lost. May God Bless and keep them and may we all utter a word of thanks for their sacrifice.
I googled this, but it isn't on a single U.S. MSM news site that I could find. Thank you, Israel, for letting U.S. Jews know what's going on in our own country. We wouldn't know a thing from our own organizations, since it seems not to meet the narrative criteria: Arab Students at UC Berkeley Disrupt Israel Event, Attack Jews
Ted Kennedy has been in the Senate how long? He's a convicted felon, If I remember correctly. He pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide or some such, didn't he?
The Democrats entire existence is based on Utopian and make-believe policies. For them, pretending that something is something it is not is not a hard reach for them. All of their major tenets are total BS. Equality of Result, not Equality of Oppourtunity. Judging people by their skin color rather than their character - see Affirmative Action. Basing their power base on "fairness", when that is the last thing they want. It is easy to hold on to a lie and falsehood if your entire political engine is already driven by that.
They are used to be losers too, as you can see by their "gracious" behavior after their victory. Even after winning, they are still acting like a bunch of whiny victims.
I don't like it. While they like to say it's fair (everybody does pay the same tax), it ignores the fact that all the wealthy have to do to avoid the tax is make purchases outside of the country. If you can afford millions for, for example, a private jet, you can afford to buy the thing in Europe and have it flown home.
It'll devestate the high-end domestic market. Kind of the way the Luxury tax destroyed the ship-building industry in the late '80's - early '90's.
Bad idea.
Europe is a bad example where countries have the VAT. Here in Germany it runs 19% on all discretionary purchases.
re: #212 Sunlight
"...the Arab students shouted anti-Semitic curses and epithets throughout the incident, calling the Jews “Nazis” and “dogs,” and threatening to kill them..."
I must commend Berkeley's History department on teaching the students about the awful Jewish Nazi's.
If your not a citizen of that country can't you often get a vat exemption?
Yes, under certain circumstances. But the government loves their revenue very, very much, so sometimes it isn't easy. As a command sponsored military family we can get an exemption on purchases up to Euro 2500, but not without doing the paperwork correctly.
I googled this, but it isn't on a single U.S. MSM news site that I could find. Thank you, Israel, for letting U.S. Jews know what's going on in our own country. We wouldn't know a thing from our own organizations, since it seems not to meet the narrative criteria: Arab Students at UC Berkeley Disrupt Israel Event, Attack Jews
The anti-Jewish group plans to take action. In this ass backwards society, they'll probably succeed. From your link:
Meanwhile, the anti-Israel group is planning to file a petition to remove from office Moghtader, who tried to break up the fight.
Lizards, prayers please for the families of the two Kiowa pilots killed yesterday. It was an accident
One of them was a friend of mine and my husbands'. He was a great person, so warm and funny.
Athiest Lizards, sending out good vibes would be appreciated too.
My deepest sympathy for this loss. They will be remembered and honored for as long as free people walk the Earth, and may that be forever.
FWIW, I flew earlier versions of the Kiowa (OH-58). It is a good and safe machine but flying in a combat zone is very dangerous even without enemy action. This is one of the many risks our young people take everyday on our behalf.
Yes, under certain circumstances. But the government loves their revenue very, very much, so sometimes it isn't easy. As a command sponsored military family we can get an exemption on purchases up to Euro 2500, but not without doing the paperwork correctly.
Well if you didn't want to do tons of paper work, why would you have joined the Military?
I don't like it. While they like to say it's fair (everybody does pay the same tax), it ignores the fact that all the wealthy have to do to avoid the tax is make purchases outside of the country. If you can afford millions for, for example, a private jet, you can afford to buy the thing in Europe and have it flown home.
It'll devestate the high-end domestic market. Kind of the way the Luxury tax destroyed the ship-building industry in the late '80's - early '90's.
Bad idea.
Yes, but didn't it feel good to "soak the rich"? As usual, the old "unintended consequences" came back to bite the Dems right in the ass. It hurt the people they claim to represent the most...not their intended target. If they go ahead with the higher taxes and increase in capital gains like they promised, they will end up hurting the middle class and poor more than "the rich". How many jobs do homeless people create? How many jobs do wage earners create? It is small, medium and large business that do that...and those are the groups who they want to "punish"...Go ahead Obama and The DemCongress...screw your own base.
Here's a great article from the Financial Times about the financial crisis in Iceland (note: requires free registration - just your email address). Check out one of their many problems:
Iceland is the only country in the world that indexes its loans in addition to charging interest. This means that when Icelanders borrow IKr1,000 from the bank and inflation increases by 5 per cent, the bank increases their debt to IKr1,050 at the end of the year. A great deal for the bank and fine for you, too – so long as the property’s value and your salary are increasing by inflation and more. The majority of Icelandic mortgages are based on this punitive system and with inflation running at nearly 20 per cent, they will see their IKr1,000 loan turn into a IKr1,200 loan. The interest burden will increase proportionally. This is bad enough, but when coupled with falling house prices, it means that many face a particularly savage variety of negative equity. The impact on highly geared borrowers, which in practice means most Icelanders, would be hard enough even with two incomes, but with unemployment set to soar, many households are going to go under.
The Democrats entire existence is based on Utopian and make-believe policies. For them, pretending that something is something it is not is not a hard reach for them. All of their major tenets are total BS...
Not surprising that so many Hollywood types are big libs. They do make-believe and pretend for a living...
In the meantime, Free Republic and several other conservative sites are crawling with Nirth Certifikat wonks, wasting time and bringing gales of laughter from the media-left.
Oh, well, it might help in a way to keep the lefties thinking that we are all kooks and tin-foilers, but this kind of disinformation can be taken too far.
Exactly, but that seems lost on the Dummiecrats. It's the same with taxes. If you raise them, people hide the money, find the loopholes and revenue to the government usually goes down. But, if you lower them, revenues usually increase...but, I guess that is not "FAIR", so they have no interest in that.
I used to think that the Democrats meant well, and were just mistaken in their world view. But their means and goals are so consistently bad for the country and the people that I really have to wonder.
I think "The Marxsiah" being elected just popped that bubble!
I used to question their methods not their goals...now, I call both of them into question. There are too many smart people over on that side of the aisle for it to be "un-intended"...They know what they are doing when they pass something like...they know full well.
Moscow has sold Sudan 12 Mig-29 fighter planes, Sudanese Defense Minister ‘Abd A-Rahim Muhammad Hussein said.
The minister confirmed the purchase during a press conference in Moscow on Friday.
According to a United Nations security resolution passed in 2005, an embargo is in place prohibiting sales of weapons to all parties involved in the Darfur conflict.
In May 2007 Russian denied allegations from Amnesty International that it was supplying Khartoum with weapons that were then used in Darfur.
/what assholes, why the [expletive deleted] would they do that?
I used to question their methods not their goals...now, I call both of them into question. There are too many smart people over on that side of the aisle for it to be "un-intended"...They know what they are doing when they pass something like...they know full well.
If libs wanted to destroy the American way of life,what would they do different from things they do now?
She failed to save John McCain from presidential election doom, but Sarah Palin, the Republican senator’s controversial running mate, may yet emerge as the saviour of the American publishing industry. Literary agents are queueing up to sign her to a book deal that could earn her up to $7m.
Well, unfortunately, I got turned off Republicans for a while because it seemed like they, too, were more interested in micromanaging people's lives -- their moral lives, rather than their economic lives. In Missouri over the years we've had several Republican "stealth" candidates who were not truthful about their social agenda.
And I'm tired of Republicans who say things like "we need Conservatives who will fight for Constitutional amendments banning abortion & gay marriage" and conservative school board members who seem to think their duty in life is to get Intelligent Design taught in science classes. Dammit, I want Republicans who will fight for individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, fiscal sanity, a strong military, and sound basic education, especially in math, science, history, civics, economics, and English!
That's the problem. Democrats and leftist love to micro-mange and nanny state other people. Republicans just don't think like that.
Conservatives get up in the morning and think - "I'm going to take on the day and work hard to fulfill my dreams, and take care of me and mine."
Democrats wake up each day and think feel -- "I''m going to stop people from doing this this and this... I'm going to kill that persons dream for the common good, I'm going to make life difficult for person A so person B can benefit... I'm going to stop this and say no to that and raise this tax to pay for that bullshit. and I'm going to stop global warming..." etc.. Democrats are just better suited for government jobs and bureaucracy in general.
but I agree with you - we need a fresh crop of fighting repubs to fight for us. & no more bailouts. Enough.
Socialism and tyranny and corruption and tribalism are the norm in human civilization. The vast majority of human beings actually prefer to live as slaves and/or game whatever governing system there is for the benefit of their tribe. Americans are, or used to be, the weirdos of the world because we believe in self-government and individual liberty and meritocracy and all that stuff. But way back in the 30's it was becoming clear that many Americans no longer subscribed to the American ideal, and that the ways of the Old World were creeping into the New.
I used to think that the Democrats meant well, and were just mistaken in their world view. But their means and goals are so consistently bad for the country and the people that I really have to wonder. If they were just fuck-ups, they'd occasionally get something right.
Jimmy Carter is the prime example of this. I used to think he was dumb, but all of his acts make sense if you simply assume he is an anti-American anti-Semite.
Dammit, I want Republicans who will fight for individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, fiscal sanity, a strong military, and sound basic education, especially in math, science, history, civics, economics, and English!
Here here. Me too.
The social cons needs to take a chill pill and realize that they too are using force to push their agenda on people who may not appreciate it. Meanwhile our nation takes a hard left turn.
Is this Clinton term 3 or what? WTF? This is the change we voted for (or against in our case)
barry doesn't know what he's doing, so he has to glom on to "popular clinton appointees"
If shrillary does get SoS, I guarantee she'll be very close to madeline alldim, for advice. Hey madeline, how'd that North Korea thing work out? They stop their nuke ambitions yet?
Is this Clinton term 3 or what? WTF? This is the change we voted for (or against in our case)
barry doesn't know what he's doing, so he has to glom on to "popular clinton appointees"
If shrillary does get SoS, I guarantee she'll be very close to madeline alldim, for advice. Hey madeline, how'd that North Korea thing work out? They stop their nuke ambitions yet?
But if the choice for SoS is between Hillary and John Kerry, I'd pick Hillary. I'd rather see Sam Nunn in there somewhere, but please oh please, no John Kerry.
Thanks to the Social Engineering of Carter, Clinton, ACORN, Raines, Frank and Dobbs, we've already had layoffs at my office.
We are directly affected by the housing market and we are looking at the worst of all possible outcomes if O-Liar follows through with his Socialist agenda.
DEMOCRATS LIED!
MY 401K DIED!
I think Obama wants to put Hillary in a politically deadly post so that he can effectively shut her up...(I think it would be a brilliant move). Consider what would happen if Obama had a hostile/enemy Democrat snipin' at from the side lines, eh? (that's kind of what the Republicans are going through right now -- ever listen to Ed Rollins?) Imagine an angry Hilliary and what she could do the Obama team (is that a maniacal cackle I hear?)
Is this Clinton term 3 or what? WTF? This is the change we voted for (or against in our case)
barry doesn't know what he's doing, so he has to glom on to "popular clinton appointees"
If shrillary does get SoS, I guarantee she'll be very close to madeline alldim, for advice. Hey madeline, how'd that North Korea thing work out? They stop their nuke ambitions yet?
rightside -
Thank your lucky stars that Sen. Obama is reaching out for "Clintonians."
It COULD be worse. Clinton's people were corrupt, sometimes clueless, AND as a rule not OVERTLY anti-American.
Well, unfortunately, I got turned off Republicans for a while because it seemed like they, too, were more interested in micromanaging people's lives -- their moral lives, rather than their economic lives. In Missouri over the years we've had several Republican "stealth" candidates who were not truthful about their social agenda.
And I'm tired of Republicans who say things like "we need Conservatives who will fight for Constitutional amendments banning abortion & gay marriage" and conservative school board members who seem to think their duty in life is to get Intelligent Design taught in science classes. Dammit, I want Republicans who will fight for individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, fiscal sanity, a strong military, and sound basic education, especially in math, science, history, civics, economics, and English!
This guy, just as Charles did on the memo, caught them changing historic temperature anomalies to make the current trend stronger upward and he made a "Pulsating Graphic".
Quite frankly, I don't see where either one of them would be good. Which would you prefer apologizing to NorK/Russia/etc. on behalf of the Nobama administration, for "8 years of failed Bush policies"?
Indeed. and I don't pretend to have it all figured out. but the data from the CA prop 8 was that blacks and Hispanics are not comfortable with gay marriage. (We already know Mormons and the religious right are not comfortable with it) - it turns out that other voting blocks aren't either.
Am I mistaken - or didn't the gay marriage (or like) go down in OR and WA a few years back?
Yesterday my eldest son and I went to see Oliver Stone's new movie, W. I had to bribe my offspring heavily w/overpriced movied theater chow to accomplish this as the subject matter didn't seem all that interesting to him. That changed.
Since I don't support what I anticipated were outright lies, deceptions, and slander, I used a favorite ploy to see this without paying for it. We found a film that my son WOULD have enjoyed seeing but that I found moronic in concept (just in case we have to watch it instead -- fair is fair -- in this case "Zack and Miri Make a Porno") that happens to be starting just about the same time, and bought the tickets for it instead. Then we get inside, I get robbed at the snack bar, and we amble casually into the film we want to see instead, W. If questioned in this gambit (I never have been) we have tickets for the same time, just a different movie -- we can claim we changed our minds but what does it matter, we paid, or that there must have been a mistake at the box office but what does it matter, we paid, etc. IF we find out it is a decent movie without bias, the promise is that I will pay for tickets to it the next time and see the other film. So far I've never had to do this. This way I get to see films I think are probably crap while supporting other filmmakers.
I have to say, I thought I was going to see a biased slam against George Bush when I went into the theater. What I found instead was a boring bit of trash with little plot and no ending. Really. What deceptions and selective portrayals existed were so ham-handed as to be beneath notice. My 18 year old son himself noticed that there was no ending for the film from his sugar-induced oblivion. Perhaps Stone had not ending because W is based on a character who isn't quite done yet himself. Or perhaps Stone just wanted to hurry it up and lacking an ending didn't bother him as he just wanted to dump a fragant propaganda piece in front of the public right before the election. What are the odds? I'd be curious, though, to see if he supported Obama. The film was a monumental handjob for moonbats, to say the least. It probably wasn't satisfying enough for those who want W disemboweled and dragged by his entrails behind the presidential motorcade (Hi KOS Kids!), but it was vapid enough to be figured out even by Code Pink standards.
Josh Brolin plays W. Is he James Brolin's son or brother? Hard to tell. However, he seems to be on the fast track to a career of playing heavies, criminals, nitwits, and thugs (to paraphrase Mel Brooks), as we noticed in the previews that he's going to be playing Dan White (homophobic shooter of gay Harvey Milk -- to be played by Sean Penn [a natural, I feel]). At this point I mention to my son what an over-abundance of sugar (twinkies in this case) could make him do. He ignores me, entrenched in his Milk Dud hell.
My son was entertained by the 1st part of W's life, where he was a alcohol-riddled brat failing everything he touched. There may be simularities in their lives, but I digress. The second half of his life where he's a Jesus-motivated crusader, not so much. Through-out the film one could never get a handle on W, what his motivations really were, and almost no character development. I suppose there is no person in the world that Oliver Stone can't make a two dimensional puppet out of.
[NOTE: near the end of Stanley Kubrick's life there was a point in which it was obvious that no one should ever let him touch a camera again, but should instead lead him gently by the hand into the television room where he can watch his golden years pass by and revel in his accomplishments. Oliver Stone hadn't reached this point yet, judging by his previous film, World Trade Center, but boy did his career take a turn. Now it may be necessary to get the assistance of a cricket bat when leading him to that room.]
I think it reinforces that fact, that he us clueless, so he must bolster himself by using "seasoned veterans" of previous adiministrations. Everyone does that to some extent, but this is looking more and more like billyjeffs third term.
Quite frankly, I don't see where either one of them would be good. Which would you prefer apologizing to NorK/Russia/etc. on behalf of the Nobama administration, for "8 years of failed Bush policies"?
Whoever gets the job is going to do that, I imagine. I just find it hard to contemplate a "Secretary of State John F Kerry". He's done virtually nothing of substance in the senate - let's keep him there where he can't do as much damage as he could by doing nothing as SoS.
I'm watching as the Iraq war winds down and hoping beyond hope that Bush's last act as President is to call a press conference and declare 2 things:
1- Major combat operations in Iraq are NOW over. and:
2- The United States Military in alliance with the Iraqi Military, the Iraqi people and it's freely and legally elected government are victorious.
Yup. The Iraq war is over and we won. Say it Bush. You made it happen old boy, take your victory lap. Don't worry about the liberals not liking you, that boat sailed a long time ago anyway. Start your retirement by pointing out you did a good job for the world, and the world is better off for what you did. Ending your last speech to the world by blowing a razz-berry might un-dignify the moment but I wouldn't blame you one bit.
In that speech he'd need to point out that the very clearly laid out goals for victory have been met and point out our troops will all be out of country within 2 years. The liberal press will blow whatever cover they still pretend to have by saying: "Uh uh! Didn't so win! We lost! Lost lost lost!" To which Bush should say: "As much as you in the press wanted us and the Iraqi people to loose to your allies of convenience, Al Queda and the Bathist party hangers on, we kicked their asses. But you can still root for the Taliban in Afghanistan."
This would probably require more oratory skill than Bush is capable of I'm afraid. Theoretically, if I wanted to hire an inspirational speaker, I'd hire Obama, but if the job at hand was an ugly one with no good choices like the liberation of a country, Bush would get the job seven days a week and twice on Sunday.
Mark my words, in 5 to 10 years, you will hear liberal politicians coming out and giving liberals and liberal politicians credit for liberating Iraq the same way Al Gore talked about how "we" brought down the Berlin wall in his movie "An Inconvenient Truth" (Which should be called: "A Lucrative Lie") ignoring the fact that he, his party and his ideological bedfellows did everything in their power to protect their beloved Soviet Union and it's infamous wall all those years.
I'm assuming this site will still be here, stronger than ever, we'll just be surfing it on iPod brain implants or something. At that time, when President Chelsie Clinton mentions how brave the Democrat party was to stand up to Republicans and liberate Iraq, I'll mentally log in and say: "Just like I predicted way back in 2008! Told you so!"
& I do find it interesting that gay marriage, when on the ballot, seems to fail even in blue states.
"Frog" -
One MAN + One WOMAN has been the Matrimonial GOLD STANDARD since the days of the Roman Empire, if not before. It has a certain logic as participants can (PRO) CREATE new citizens. I wish my Gay "bretheren and sistern," nothing but the best. I honor their relationships, and offer them every benefit and responsibility of "married" couples. Just call it something else. If I am being "Anti-Semantic" so be it. Remember - WORDS MEAN THINGS.
It is the crusading that Oliver Stone seems to be attempting to push with this portrayal (even down to the last scene after the final credits), and that in turn is really just Stone's adversion to Christianity. Pity it was underdone because one leaves the theater wondering exactly what Stone was getting at and why he couldn't get to it, at the end.
Brolin plays the part with fire and much animation, but a character of wallpaper that goes nowhere doesn't let him really expand his craft. He's fun to watch, but is as interesting as an old condom wrapper -- and I think that this is probably the director's (I use that word reservedly) fault.
Laura Bush is played by Elizabeth Banks, ho hum. Interesting note: she is also in Zack and Miri make a Porno, the film we had tickets for, so I felt somewhat vindicated -- she's also in the current film Role Models. One hopes she was more interesting over there. Here she stood around a lot and smoked.
Barbara Bush is portrayed as a cantankerous rapscallion by Ellen Burstyn, much like Yosemite Sam in bad drag (very bad costuming) and Bozo's wig after he lived in the home a while. Hardly how I remembered Barbara Bush being. (That is always a danger, though -- making a film with characters that some of the audience may be able to remember more accurately than you portray them.) Her performance made it look like Frs. Merrin and Karras had exorcised the wrong person.
James Cromwell turns in a good performance as George Bush Sr., but that hardly satisfies the soul. Maybe if he'd turned to Hillary and said something like "That'll do, hon, that'll do" we might have been entertained. I hope he got a good salary for this role, for he tried to do good by it in a very manful way, there's only so much you can do with a Stone script, apparently.
Richard Dreyfus manages to turn in an performance as Vice President Dick Cheney that is even worse than his role in Mr. Holland's Opus. And that says a lot. He leaned against everything in sight looking ill; I found myself willing a coronary onto him, just to get him out of the scene. Next time I watch Jaws, I'm rooting for the shark.
Rumbsfeld is played by Scott Glenn as a senile and prissy old man who has the start of Parkinson's Disease, it seems. He was mildly entertaining and extremely forgettable. Character actors are at a disadvantage where the director has been singularily unable to develop any character in their scripts. That was why Glenn apparently had to go with goofy. Not my first choice on motivation.
Toby Jones as Karl Rove. Unenduring, though he did give it a Truman Capote sort of look. The last film I saw him in was when he played Ollie Weeks in Stephen King's The Mist. Toby ought to be careful, apparently he's being typecast, he doesn't want to get stuck in perpetual B movie thrillers.
Stacy Keach, though, sometimes carries a bit of weight in his role of Reverand Hudd. Somewhere between Marlon Brando and Orson Welles. I've made an obscure pun here and I feel bad about it so I excuse myself ...
Two performances do really stick out, though. First is Jeffrey Wright as General Powell, where he manages to do a fairly good restrained performance. I like him better as Felix Leiter in the Bond films, though. I saw Quantum of Solace right after W and my opinion sticks: he's a lot better in action films.
I see your point, but much could be said the same about shrillary. New York has already been destroyed before she became senator there. Thank God I left that gulag. Lifetime democrat control of western NY has left their economy in shambles. My mom still can't understand why their gas prices, and much of everything else is so much higher there than here.
One MAN + One WOMAN has been the Matrimonial GOLD STANDARD since the days of the Roman Empire, if not before. It has a certain logic as participants can (PRO) CREATE new citizens. I wish my Gay "bretheren and sistern," nothing but the best. I honor their relationships, and offer them every benefit and responsibility of "married" couples. Just call it something else. If I am being "Anti-Semantic" so be it. Remember - WORDS MEAN THINGS.
-S-
Not quite. It was officially outlawed in 382 by this:
Theodosian Code 9.8.3: "When a man marries and is about to offer himself to men in womanly fashion {quum vir nubit in feminam viris porrecturam), what does he wish, when sex has lost all its significance; when the crime is one which it is not profitable to know; when Venus is changed to another form; when love is sought and not found? We order the statutes to arise, the laws to be armed with an avenging sword, that those infamous persons who are now, or who hereafter may be, guilty may be subjected to exquisite punishment.
And Thandie Newton as Condoleezza Rice is so memorable in the role as to be painful. I had no idea Ms. Rice was a sniveling shrill geek laugher, but Ms. Newton plays it for all it's worth. But that's too little too late. If Condoleezza doesn't hunt her down and smack her, I'd be surprized. The only lasting impression I had of her was as someone I intentionally wanted to smear dirt on just to watch her do the chicken dance to try to shake it off. Thandie named her eldest daughter, Ripley, after a certain aliens-daunted film character (does this make her more dumb than Nicholas Cage, who named his child Kal-El after a role he wanted to get?), and was once left in the lurch by Al Gore (an experience we all share) when he failed to show up on a stage she was supposed to introduce him from ... she had to fill time telling jokes. I hope those were funny. She played herself in How To Lose Friends and Alienate People this year as well, I wish I'd seen her in that instead, but Thandie, no worries, you managed to accomplish that with W as well.
This is not to say that the film was without it's redeeming moments, though almost. The music was not only also unremarkable, but fairly uninspired in its selection for what was going on screenwise. And my favorite anachronism in this film: who knew they had Windows Vista in 2002? It explains a lot. Maybe the government alone had it then, that would explain more.
And, yes, all the lies and misinformation were in this film, just as padding between the disconcerting bits. You almost wanted them to be blatant, just to escape the tedium of it all. Bottom line: this film made Waiting for Godot seem shorter than a television commercial. The only thing I want to avoid more than seeing this film again is my next colonoscopy, and even that had more to recommend it.
I guess I owe my son a chance to pick the next one, all things considered. I give this film ten snores, only because I'm feeling generous.
Probably, and - Monica is from what I understand a rather intelligent Human Being, IQ of about 135. At a Mid 20's age, she was infatuated with the President of the United States. Can you blame her?
Really too bad considering that her Step Father is R. Peter Strauss, a fellow who could probably raise lots of cash to make her the NEXT US Senator from NY if La Hillary becomes Sec. State. Believe me, it would be Poetic, if not Cosmic Justice.
Most scholars interpret a convoluted law from the year 342 AD surviving in both the Theodosian Code and the Code of Justinian as a decree from the emperors Constantius II and Constans that marriage based on unnatural sex should be punished meticulously. Although Constans himself was later denounced as having male lovers, this trend of the emperors in condemning male homosexuality in laws would continue. In a law of 390, surviving in the Theodosian Code and the Lex Dei (‘Law of God’), the emperors Valentinian, Theodosius, and Arcadius ordained that any man taking the role of a woman in sex would be publicly burned to death
Sorry got the year wrong above. Theodosius was a Christian Emperor.
Indeed. and I don't pretend to have it all figured out. but the data from the CA prop 8 was that blacks and Hispanics are not comfortable with gay marriage. (We already know Mormons and the religious right are not comfortable with it) - it turns out that other voting blocks aren't either.
Am I mistaken - or didn't the gay marriage (or like) go down in OR and WA a few years back?
I don't know about OR and WA.
I do know that I know a lot of black people given that my city is approx 50% black.
I know that they are actually fairly conservative on many social issues, and that would include gay marriage.
I also know that these conservative black folks, many of them, voted for Obama.
So a vote for Obama did not necessarily mean a vote for the entire liberal agenda.
I will leave revenge to Ha-Shem. I will leave the definition of Marriage to Legislatures and Popular Referendum. I will respect human relationships as they are.
But that is really not important. Marriage in the legal arena is primarily about property and children--and same-sex couples have property, and an increasing number have children. That is why there is an issue.
The rest of it--all the "one man and one woman" stuff--is religion, not law. I would fight to keep the legal and religious definitions of marriage distinct, for the purpose of preserving freedom of religion. But by the same token, it is ridiculous to inject religious definitions into what is a civil contract for opposite-sex couples no less than for same-sex couples.
A most interesting argument, much food for thought.
Thanos, I don't know where you're quoting from here, but I would quarrel with the author's use of the term "unnatural sex."
The Torah--which is the basis for Christian morality also--does not bother to mandate things that one would do naturally, or forbid things that one would naturally not do. In other words, while it condemns same-sex acts on moral grounds, it does not do so on the grounds that such acts are "unnatural." Indeed, "morality" is the very act of puttin unnatural restraints upon otherwise-natural behavior.
I will leave revenge to Ha-Shem. I will leave the definition of Marriage to Legislatures and Popular Referendum. I will respect human relationships as they are.
-S-
Me too, but on the other hand if I were gay I wouldn't want the state telling me who I could or couldn't marry.
Is it too early to declare him "President Zero, greatest failure in US presidential history"?
Shay 41 -
It is. I agree with your sentiment, which I generally share - AND - he is not President YET - here on the East Coast, he is still a US Senator for the next 4 or so hours. My prayer is that he will do so well that in 2012 I will vote for him.
My prayers have not always been answered. That is all.
Marriage associated with religion associated with hetrerosexuality Marriage as institution
Gay marriage as a "right": to insurance, benefits, Next of kin. . .marriage as legal status
Ema -
You got the program. Most PREROGATIVES addressed by Gay Marriage are available contractually. For those that aren't, the institution of Civil Union SHOULD cover. For those that aren't stretch Civil Union to cover. That is all.
Berlin Wall- Down in 1989
Clinton/Gore in Office 1992
Lizard Ema says What?"
My dear Ema, although it may appear, due to his robotic movements and vacant stare that Al Gore came out of a pod the day his ticket was inaugurated into the White House, I assure you, he and his party were quite active in politics for many decades previous to him and Clinton being in the White House.
Gore was involved in American politics for over three decades, serving first in the U.S. House of Representatives (1977–85) and later in the U. S. Senate (1985–93) (representing Tennessee) before becoming vice president. During that time, I assure you, he never missed a chance to prop up the Berlin wall. For one thing, he voted against SDI, the which was the "badda-boom" to the Afghanistan war "badda-bing" that crushed the Soviet empire.
If you re-read what I wrote, you'll note that I said "(Gore) his party and his ideological bedfellows did everything they could to prop up that infamous wall over the years" not "The Clinton / Gore President / Vice President team tried to stop the Berlin wall from coming down."
Is it a shrub or a bush? I wanted to know. You know the enquiring mind thing.
So I wikied it and found:
A shrub or bush is a horticultural rather than strictly botanical category of woody plant, distinguished from a tree by its multiple stems and lower height, usually less than 5-6 m (15-20 ft) tall.
I write the music I like. If other people like it, fine, they can go buy the albums. And if they don't like it, there's always Michael Jackson for them to listen to. -- Frank was talking about his music from the Yellow Shark.
Frank says: