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Open | Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:01:56 pm PST

Many’s the long night I’ve dreamed of cheese - toasted, mostly.

Robert Louis Stevenson

UPDATE at 11/17/08 3:36:32 pm:

Registration is now open for the legendary limited time.

UPDATE at 11/17/08 4:09:49 pm:

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1 stevieray  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:03:33pm

Sailing the seas of cheese.

2 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:04:00pm

It would muck up the toaster.

3 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:04:22pm

Even this is pretty good....

4 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:04:41pm

Dedicate this one to the stalkers. Have fun losers.

(You know they are reading this thread :-)

5 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:04:42pm
7 Dustyvet  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:04:58pm

New threads...:)

8 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:05:10pm

re: #3 WrathofG-d

Even this is pretty good....

You taunt us with your invisible photos.

9 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:06:30pm

re: #8 debutaunt

You taunt us with your invisible photos.

Let's try that again, shall we?

10 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:06:40pm

re: #3 WrathofG-d

Taunt,tuant ,tuant and I weeel taunt yeeew agaiiin!

11 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:06:57pm

The site for the subject of last thread

[Link: www.cnas.org...]

12 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:07:07pm

re: #9 WrathofG-d

Let's try that again, shall we?

Youuuuu tauuuunt usssssssss...

13 SWPaul  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:07:15pm

Monday afternoon is open! And it's bike riding time!

Kabuki fixed gear, built in a "community bike shop"! Anyone else have awesome bikes at home?

14 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:07:32pm

re: #9 WrathofG-d

Let's try that again, shall we?

and now with an invisible link

15 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:08:14pm

How hard is it to get the cheese drunk enough to be that just golden brown toasted?

16 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:08:40pm

re: #3 WrathofG-d

THIS IMAGE HAS BEEN MOVED OR DELETED

17 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:08:46pm

re: #14 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

and now with an invisible link

Wrath is good.
he must be one of them there 'secrit agence' we hear tell about.

18 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:08:53pm

re: #11 Thanos

The site for the subject of last thread

[Link: www.cnas.org...]

Will 0 build a giant armada?

19 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:09:16pm

re: #15 FurryOldGuyJeans

How hard is it to get the cheese drunk enough to be that just golden brown toasted?


port wine cheese

20 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:09:17pm

re: #16 yochanan

THIS IMAGE HAS BEEN MOVED OR DELETED

Which is it? Inquiring minds want to know.

21 bosforus  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:09:32pm

re: #1 stevieray

Sailing the seas of cheese.

Is your avatar the eye of a southbound pachyderm?

22 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:09:41pm

re: #6 Ojoe

Watch Old Faithful steam away. Maybe it will go off while you are watching. Image refreshes every 30 seconds.

Otherwise known as "how to get lizards to waste an hour."

;-)

Seriously, thanks for the link. I like things like that

23 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:09:44pm

re: #17 Eowyn2

Wrath is good.
he must be one of them there 'secrit agence' we hear tell about.

Like those Mossad Agents who were responsible for Pearl Harbor.

24 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:09:51pm
Many’s the long night I’ve dreamed of cheese - toasted, mostly.

— Robert Louis Stevenson

I have the same dream.

25 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:10:31pm

re: #8 debutaunt

You taunt us with your invisible photos.

no I wont. I've tried 6 times & it doesn't want to work. Forget it

How about this.

26 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:10:48pm

re: #19 Eowyn2

port wine cheese

Egads, more whining about going left again?!?

27 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:10:56pm

I posted this in the previous thread:

A friend asked me today if G. Soros was an American citizen. All I could say was if he was he sure don't act like one. Does anyone know?

I checked Wikipedia and found no answer. Any help would be appreciated.

28 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:11:04pm

re: #23 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Like those Mossad Agents who were responsible for Pearl Harbor.

MOSSAD and there infernal time machine

29 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:11:13pm

re: #23 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Like those Mossad Agents who were responsible for Pearl Harbor.


Is that the newest in conspiracy theories? Mossad Agents responsible for Pearl Harbor. Were they also responsible for Waterloo?

30 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:11:16pm

I actually had brie and crackers for an afternoon snack. I feel more elite and snobbish already.

31 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:11:27pm

re: #25 WrathofG-d

no I wont. I've tried 6 times & it doesn't want to work. Forget it

How about this.

And now with the Jedi Mind link: "This is not the page you're looking for."

32 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:11:55pm

re: #26 FurryOldGuyJeans

Egads, more whining about going left again?!?

"Hard to Port Wine Cheese Please"

33 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:11:56pm
34 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:11:57pm
35 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:12:09pm

re: #30 doppelganglander

I actually had brie and crackers for an afternoon snack. I feel more elite and snobbish already.

Brie and sourdough bread - yum.

36 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:12:42pm

re: #30 doppelganglander

I actually had brie and crackers for an afternoon snack. I feel more elite and snobbish already.

shall I send you some Iranian Caviar?

37 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:12:43pm

re: #31 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Ok I just might give up LGF at this rate alltogether.

grrrr

38 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:12:55pm

re: #29 Eowyn2

Is that the newest in conspiracy theories? Mossad Agents responsible for Pearl Harbor. Were they also responsible for Waterloo?

Dont be silly. Its well known the Jews were behind Pearl Harbor. The attacks was launched by Japs whose battlecry was "Torah! Torah! Torah!"

How much more obvious can you get?

/

39 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:12:58pm

re: #27 GeeWiz

With as much money as he openly funnels to the Democratic Party, you'd think that he'd have to be a citizen, but maybe he isn't. Interesting question.

40 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:13:00pm

re: #30 doppelganglander

Sunday afternoon I had Alaskan smoked Salmon with Bud....
Never mind ! I now what that makes me!

41 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:13:21pm

re: #27 GeeWiz

Yes, he's a citizen.

42 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:13:28pm

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

The question is, do Americans have citizenship in the Nation of Soros?

A better question to be sure!

43 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:13:54pm

re: #27 GeeWiz

I posted this in the previous thread:

I checked Wikipedia and found no answer. Any help would be appreciated.

Naturalized citizen.

44 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:14:03pm

re: #36 Eowyn2

shall I send you some Iranian Caviar?

No, thanks, but some pistachios would be welcome.

45 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:14:08pm

Yes, there really are people this stupid.

46 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:14:13pm

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

The question is, do Americans have citizenship in the Nation of Soros?

Citizenship is such an ugly word.

He prefers 'subjects.'

47 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:14:17pm

re: #40 reloadingisnotahobby


Right now? Lucky you :-)

48 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:14:35pm

re: #18 debutaunt

Will 0 build a giant armada?

No, a giant wooden rabbit.

49 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:15:00pm

re: #22 Silhouette

What a beautiful world this is.

BBL

50 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:15:55pm

re: #45 rawmuse

Yes, there really are people this stupid.

I hope I never end up in the hosp.. she Admin.......
What an IDIOT!

51 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:16:05pm

Darn it, now I want grilled cheese.

52 opnion  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:16:22pm

re: #38 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Dont be silly. Its well known the Jews were behind Pearl Harbor. The attacks was launched by Japs whose battlecry was "Torah! Torah! Torah!"

How much more obvious can you get?

/


Right & Jews sank the Titanic, Steinberg, Iceberg, whats the difference?

53 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:16:25pm

re: #13 SWPaul

Monday afternoon is open! And it's bike riding time!

Kabuki fixed gear, built in a "community bike shop"! Anyone else have awesome bikes at home?

I have a Trek Lime that I won in an eassay competion in 2007

54 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:16:43pm
55 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:17:18pm

re: #45 rawmuse

Yes, there really are people this stupid.

Oregon Woman Loses $400,000 to Nigerian E-Mail Scam

An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark.

Oh, good lord...

56 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:18:04pm

re: #45 rawmuse

Yes, there really are people this stupid.

But her cookie recipe is delicious.

57 quickredfox  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:18:42pm

""Gromit, that's it! Cheese! We'll go somewhere where there's cheese!"
-- Wallace

58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:18:49pm

re: #55 Spiny Norman

Oh, good lord...

Luckily she still has that beach front property in Arizona to fall back on.

59 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:19:13pm

re: #38 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Dont be silly. Its well known the Jews were behind Pearl Harbor. The attacks was launched by Japs whose battlecry was "Torah! Torah! Torah!"

How much more obvious can you get?

/


I feel so very dense.

60 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:19:14pm

re: #4 Iron Fist

Dedicate this one to the stalkers. Have fun losers.

(You know they are reading this thread :-)

Feeling fiesty, Iron Fist?

61 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:19:22pm

Her banker and concerned family tried to convince her it was a scam... ...but "she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark".

62 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:19:32pm

re: #29 Eowyn2

Were they also responsible for Waterloo?

Yes. Everyone knows THAT.

63 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:20:04pm

re: #55 Spiny Norman

Maybe she's SMART....Fake the scam slam....sent it all to the Cameyns so she can dump the hubby and live in style!
Nah! She's an IDIOT to admit it!

64 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:20:16pm

re: #41 doppelganglander

Yes, he's a citizen.

I'm sorry but I didn't see anything there that claimed he became a citizen of the US. The information there is pretty much what I found at Wikipedia.
I could be wrong, just ask my ex.

65 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:20:33pm
66 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:20:46pm

re: #60 MandyManners

I'm in a good mood. Don't really know why, but I am.

67 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:21:10pm

re: #65 ploome hineni

I had cheese for lunch

Venezulean Beaver Cheese?

68 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:21:10pm

re: #45 rawmuse

Yes, there really are people this stupid.

nursing administrator?

69 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:21:35pm

re: #66 Iron Fist

I'm in a good mood. Don't really know why, but I am.


Give it an hour ...it'll pass!
LOL

70 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:21:49pm

re: #64 GeeWiz

I'm sorry but I didn't see anything there that claimed he became a citizen of the US. The information there is pretty much what I found at Wikipedia.
I could be wrong, just ask my ex.

Naturalized 1961, yet brags he is still a citizen of Europe.

71 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:22:05pm

re: #64 GeeWiz

I'm sorry but I didn't see anything there that claimed he became a citizen of the US. The information there is pretty much what I found at Wikipedia. I could be wrong, just ask my ex.

Try Forbes...

[Link: www.forbes.com...]

72 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:22:35pm

For a tiny portion of the $400k she could have flown to NYC and verified whether or not the "UN Certificates" were valid and have had a vacation in New York.

73 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:22:57pm

re: #71 Walter L. Newton

Try Forbes...

[Link: www.forbes.com...]

Must we? ;)

74 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:23:35pm

re: #73 FurryOldGuyJeans

Must we? ;)

Ok, forget it, don't do it, leave it along, hands off, keep it clean BArney... LOL

75 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:23:50pm
76 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:24:18pm

re: #70 FurryOldGuyJeans

Naturalized 1961, yet brags he is still a citizen of Europe.

I still don't understand why we don't arrest and extradite that creep to France, where he's a fugitive from justice.

77 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:24:43pm
78 Outrider  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:24:47pm

re: #10 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Taunt,tuant ,tuant and I weeel taunt yeeew agaiiin!

... and your father smelled of elderberries.....

79 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:25:28pm
80 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:25:37pm

re: #45 rawmuse

Yes, there really are people this stupid.

"An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark."

I beg to differ......

Back in '01, one of the America-hating bigots at Al Guardian lost some dough on a similar scam and actually wrote an article blaming Bush, and his fellow Texans in general, for it.
Her reasoning went like this: Nigeria has lots of oil. Being a backward African culture (no racism for libs, no sirree), it is naturally susceptible to foreign cultural influence. Texans like Bush went there to develop the oil and contaminated the natives with their evil Texian oil-patch cowboyism and redneck depravity, hence creating a whole generation of Texas-style swindlers and con-men in the wilds of Africa.
And, yes, she was serious.

81 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:25:40pm

re: #77 ploome hineni

(that sounds so revolting, I DON;T WANNA KNOW WHAT THE HELL IT IS)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

82 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:25:42pm

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

Ok, forget it, don't do it, leave it along, hands off, keep it clean BArney... LOL

Keep it clean? You must be talking about The One....clean could never describe ol' Barney ;)

83 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:26:00pm

re: #69 reloadingisnotahobby

Of course, when I think fondly of the various stalkers we've had the pleasure of brushing with over the years, I am reminded of song. All in the name of spreading joy to the world.

Or some happy horseshit like that.

84 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:26:19pm
85 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:26:20pm

re: #76 Spiny Norman

I still don't understand why we don't arrest and extradite that creep to France, where he's a fugitive from justice.

Money, and the influence he has bought.

86 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:26:46pm

re: #43 FurryOldGuyJeans

Naturalized citizen.

Are you saying that his marriage to Susan Weber (1983-2004) made him a citizen? I guess that S. Weber was a citizen? OK, sorry I missed that. Thank you. If that's the case, and he didn't actually seek citizenship, it helps me understand why he doesn't value it.

87 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:26:46pm

re: #75 ploome hineni

re: #67 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Venezulean Beaver Cheese?

Brie on melba toast with tea

It's a Monty Python referrence: The Cheese Shop.

Feeling a bit peckish, myself...

88 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:27:00pm

With all the Former Clinton people Obama is hiring, Does anyone know if Monica has been contacted about her old job?

89 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:27:09pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel


I dont feel as dense as I used to.

90 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:27:10pm

re: #78 Outrider
I've got to find that movie!
Laughed so hard about wet myself.........
But then again that was years ago and we were shrooming!
A train wreck was funny!
Oh , the brain cells..............

91 Outrider  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:27:10pm

re: #37 WrathofG-d

Ok I just might give up LGF at this rate alltogether.

grrrr

seems almost anti-climatic at this point.............;-)>

92 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:27:24pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel

I've heard of those symptoms before. It was called "crack"...

93 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:27:42pm

re: #64 GeeWiz

I'm sorry but I didn't see anything there that claimed he became a citizen of the US. The information there is pretty much what I found at Wikipedia.
I could be wrong, just ask my ex.

FurryOldGuyJeans has a better link: George Soros Biography

94 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:28:01pm

re: #86 GeeWiz

Are you saying that his marriage to Susan Weber (1983-2004) made him a citizen? I guess that S. Weber was a citizen? OK, sorry I missed that. Thank you. If that's the case, and he didn't actually seek citizenship, it helps me understand why he doesn't value it.

No, he was naturalized in 1961. I admit that bio on answers.com was a mite confuzicating.

95 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:28:02pm
96 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:28:24pm

re: #67 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Venezulean Beaver Cheese?

Eegad!
Those very words should be quarantined, frozen in carbonite, confined to a stasis field, and launched into trans-dimensional pseudo-space as soon as possible.

97 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:28:33pm

re: #45 rawmuse

Yes, there really are people this stupid.

This makes me embarrassed I ever sent back those Publishers Clearing House entries.
But that only cost me a few stamps.

98 gregg  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:28:36pm

re: #30 doppelganglander

I actually had brie and crackers for an afternoon snack. I feel more elite and snobbish already.

Cheez Wiz on Nilla Wafers for me.

99 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:28:45pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel

She could have a career in the circus with that kind of ability as a contortionist.

100 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:29:19pm

re: #90 reloadingisnotahobby

I've got to find that movie!
Laughed so hard about wet myself.........
But then again that was years ago and we were shrooming!
A train wreck was funny!
Oh , the brain cells..............

its only a flesh wound

101 opnion  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:29:21pm

re: #88 fish

With all the Former Clinton people Obama is hiring, Does anyone know if Monica has been contacted about her old job?

She won't come back. She says that the Democrats left a bad taste in her mouth.

102 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:29:25pm

re: #27 GeeWiz

He's American but he keeps his money in offshore accounts in the Caribbean.

103 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:29:42pm

re: #93 doppelganglander

FurryOldGuyJeans has a better link: George Soros Biography

A Better one.

104 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:29:49pm

re: #95 ploome hineni

Hell, I figure if she'd bang Clinton there's probably not many men she wouldn't bang. But she's not exactly $1000-an-hour call-girl material herself.

105 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:29:55pm

re: #91 Outrider

Would you rather help me shop for things to register for?

106 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:30:24pm

re: #41 doppelganglander

Yes, he's a citizen.

From that link, it looks like his Open Society is a fancy name for anarchy.
Anarchy--a lovely idea in principle, but lousy in practice.

107 tommygum  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:31:05pm

re: #27 GeeWiz

I posted this in the previous thread:

I checked Wikipedia and found no answer. Any help would be appreciated.

He's a Kapo.

108 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:31:11pm

I never dream of cheese, toasted or otherwise.

On the otherhand, I would not be at all surprised if I find my self dreaming of Karolina Lostmanavel.

If I do, I will report the results.............if they are descent.

109 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:31:35pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel

Well, now I can check off the Nigerian Internet Scam off of my list. That leaves only eleven things in the history of the world that weren't George W. Bush's fault.

110 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:32:01pm

wholefoods has an english cheddar for $29.95 per lb.
(cheese)

111 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:33:16pm
112 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:33:44pm

Off to lunch.

Cheese, Ham, tomato, avocado........no dream, that, just HHHHHhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

113 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:33:48pm

re: #106 transient

From that link, it looks like his Open Society is a fancy name for anarchy.
Anarchy--a lovely idea in principle, but lousy in practice.

I believe he supports one world government because it's easier to control than the 195 nations we have now. Fascism is nothing if not efficient.

114 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:33:54pm

re: #110 nyc redneck


My Girlfriend dragged me to one of those "organic" stores kinda like whole Foods. Talk about a target-rich environment! Moonbats to the Left of me and Moonbats to the right...

115 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:33:57pm

re: #88 fish

With all the Former Clinton people Obama is hiring, Does anyone know if Monica has been contacted about her old job?

Yeah, but she blew the interview.

116 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:34:15pm

re: #110 nyc redneck

wholefoods has an english cheddar for $29.95 per lb.
(cheese)

The most I have paid is 19.95 a pound for 12 year old Cheddar. (and it was worth every dime.)

117 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:34:37pm

re: #114 Iron Fist

My Girlfriend dragged me to one of those "organic" stores kinda like whole Foods. Talk about a target-rich environment! Moonbats to the Left of me and Moonbats to the right...

Paying twice the price for the smug.

118 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:35:14pm

re: #110 nyc redneck

wholefoods has an english cheddar for $29.95 per lb.
(cheese)

Thanks goodness I stay away from cheese of any sort. Mainly because I love it to much. really, I could gain more pounds on cheese than on chocolate.

I treat it as a main course.

119 opnion  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:35:14pm

re: #115 Silhouette

Yeah, but she blew the interview.

Failed the orals?

120 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:35:30pm

re: #97 transient
well p.c.h. wasn't fraud but marketing mags

121 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:35:32pm

re: #114 Iron Fist

My Girlfriend dragged me to one of those "organic" stores kinda like whole Foods. Talk about a target-rich environment! Moonbats to the Left of me and Moonbats to the right...


If you mention goat feta I will throw up. I cannot bring that stuff within nostrill range before I dry-retch

122 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:36:05pm

re: #78 Outrider

I fart in your general direction!

123 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:36:13pm

Wait a minute...
Does this mean that Suha Arafat really doesn't need my help finding Yasser's hidden millions, that Palestinian Authority flunkies are trying to steal from her?

D@mn! Swindled again!

124 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:36:44pm

re: #121 A Kiwi Infidel

If you mention goat feta I will throw up. I cannot bring that stuff within nostrill range before I dry-retch

What is wrong with feta? One of the tastiest cheeses in the world.

125 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:37:09pm

Heaven help us.

Here comes Hillary.

126 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:37:23pm

re: #111 ploome hineni

why?

she is educated, good teeth

she does have this amaturish way about her, probably 'bangs' someone because she likes him

.............hilarious how stupid some women are! n'est pas?

considering how much someone like her could make, if she was more indifferent and manipulating about her sex

some men like rounder women

built for compfort, not for speed

ploome,
i believe she actually thought he would leave hillary and marry her.
she was crazy abt. bill.

127 opnion  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:37:23pm

re: #124 Walter L. Newton

What is wrong with feta? One of the tastiest cheeses in the world.


Greek Saganki. Opah!

128 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:37:27pm

re: #114 Iron Fist

remember when the local whole earth food store was shut down by the board of health ORGANIC MICE

129 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:37:45pm

re: #115 Silhouette

Yeah, but she blew the interview.

Give that poster a cigar. . .oh, wait. . .

130 Alouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:37:51pm

re: #86 GeeWiz

Are you saying that his marriage to Susan Weber (1983-2004) made him a citizen? I guess that S. Weber was a citizen? OK, sorry I missed that. Thank you. If that's the case, and he didn't actually seek citizenship, it helps me understand why he doesn't value it.

Marriage to a U.S. citizen does not make one a citizen. My daughter-in-law (Israeli) has been married to my son for 10 years and she can't even get a green card. She has to apply for a tourist visa whenever she visits the U.S. with her U.S. citizen (born abroad to a U.S. citizen) children.

I guess it helps to have a ton of money?

131 LeBron  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:37:54pm

What's up dudes and dudettes. Even though I supported Obama's campaign, I, as a famous professional athlete, would still like to keep my taxes low.

And if you don't believe that, it's great to be here anyway.

132 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:38:14pm

re: #86 GeeWiz

Are you saying that his marriage to Susan Weber (1983-2004) made him a citizen? I guess that S. Weber was a citizen? OK, sorry I missed that. Thank you. If that's the case, and he didn't actually seek citizenship, it helps me understand why he doesn't value it.

Any of you people stay up late enough to watch Craig Ferguson? He's a great naturalized citizen, and I think he's the one who coined the phrase "naughty librarian" to describe Sarah Palin's look when she sent him a video making him an honorary citizen of Alaska.

Anyway, he was very sad to report that naturalized citizens vote less frequently than native-borns, which surprised me, too. Here's his rant on voting, and also the media:

If You Don't Vote You're a Moron.

I love this guy.

133 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:38:32pm

re: #120 yochanan

well p.c.h. wasn't fraud but marketing mags

True, but your chance of winning was about the same as winning a mega-million lottery. Or spontaneously combusting.

134 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:38:34pm

re: #108 A Kiwi Infidel

I never dream of cheese, toasted or otherwise.
On the otherhand, I would not be at all surprised if I find my self dreaming of Karolina Lostmanavel. If I do, I will report the results.............if they are descent.

I ran a search on Google images for Karolina Lostmanavel. Couldn't find her, or her navel. And I was expecting some flesh.

135 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:38:52pm

re: #131 LeBron

What's up dudes and dudettes. Even though I supported Obama's campaign, I, as a famous professional athlete, would still like to keep my taxes low.

And if you don't believe that, it's great to be here anyway.

It's obvious you're not the real LeBron because you said three sentences and didn't complain about getting fouled.

136 quickredfox  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:38:56pm

Just a few threads ago the topic of dreams came up and I learned that it is very unusual for people to be able to read in their dreams, although I have had a semi-recurring dream where I have read book titles and selections from books. I did a brief internet search on the subject and found some references, with accounts from a few others who have said they read in their dreams (one person even wrote poetry by hand and recalled the words upon waking). I didn't have time to look in detail though, these were just some anecdotal accounts. Another interesting thing that a couple of people mentioned was that while they were able to start reading something, when they were distracted from it and then went back to it, the words were different. In my dreams, it was pretty much a standard reading experience, reading the titles on book spines, and then a few paragraphs in the book. I didn't remember any specific content from it upon awaking, though.

137 Outrider  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:39:09pm

re: #105 WrathofG-d

Would you rather help me shop for things to register for?

egad. You mean like stores and things? Or go to Walmart and establish a bogus registry and post it hoping folks send you free stuff?

138 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:39:36pm

re: #111 ploome hineni

I was never impressed. Of course, Clinton was stupid beyond words to get involved with her. I'm not so concerned that she'd be a call-girl (after Elliot Spitzer, it's kinda hard not to make the comparison :-), but that she could have been working for, say, the Chinese or something.

There's no question that if she'd been the blackmailing type, Clinton would have given her whatever she asked for. Though you do have to wonder why she didn't have the dress dry-cleaned.

139 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:39:45pm

re: #1 stevieray

Sailing the seas of cheese.

Tommy The Cat is my fave.

140 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:39:54pm

re: #135 freedombilly

Rascist!

141 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:40:10pm

Mark Levin has just said Hillary has accepted the position of Secretary of State in The Messiah's admin.

No linky yet ...

142 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:40:27pm

re: #140 CalBear84

Rascist!

Bwahaha!

143 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:40:28pm

re: #138 Iron Fist

I was never impressed. Of course, Clinton was stupid beyond words to get involved with her. I'm not so concerned that she'd be a call-girl (after Elliot Spitzer, it's kinda hard not to make the comparison :-), but that she could have been working for, say, the Chinese or something.

There's no question that if she'd been the blackmailing type, Clinton would have given her whatever she asked for. Though you do have to wonder why she didn't have the dress dry-cleaned.

Sentimental reasons?

144 Charles  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:40:41pm

re: #131 LeBron

Here come the sockpuppets.

145 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:40:45pm

re: #117 Spiny Norman

Yeah, I wasn't impressed. Although they did have Budwiser...

146 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:40:50pm

re: #131 LeBron

What's up dudes and dudettes. Even though I supported Obama's campaign, I, as a famous professional athlete, would still like to keep my taxes low.

And if you don't believe that, it's great to be here anyway.

Low taxes, Obama supporter. Hmm.
Critical thinking can sometimes be elusive.

147 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:40:56pm

re: #141 Miss Trixie

Mark Levin has just said Hillary has accepted the position of Secretary of State in The Messiah's admin.

No linky yet ...


Oy Gevalt. . .

148 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:41:03pm

re: #127 opnion

Greek Saganki. Opah!

I'm not aware of Greek Saganki, but it doesn't matter. The stronger the cheese is, the better I like it.

I thought I had good blue cheese in the states until I had some in eastern France. I could taste the cellar floor in it. Yummy.

149 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:41:34pm

re: #126 nyc redneck

ploome,
i believe she actually thought he would leave hillary and marry her.
she was crazy abt. bill.

I think that she was hoping to be an extremely well-dressed "kept woman" in a very nice apartment with a large monthly deposit to her bank account.

150 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:41:37pm

re: #144 Charles

Here come the sockpuppets.

Yow! That was quick!

151 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:41:53pm

re: #137 Outrider

Geary's,

152 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:41:53pm

re: #144 Charles

Here come the sockpuppets.

Get the fabprick :) softner ready!

153 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:41:58pm

re: #141 Miss Trixie

Mark Levin has just said Hillary has accepted the position of Secretary of State in The Messiah's admin.

No linky yet ...

At least the woman-hating countries will still have to deal with a broad.

154 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:42:10pm

re: #1 stevieray

Sailing the seas of cheese.

We're going to need a bigger safety net:

Somali pirates hijack Saudi tanker loaded with oil

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – In a dramatic escalation of high seas crime, Somali pirates hijacked a Saudi supertanker loaded with crude hundreds of miles off the coast of East Africa — defeating the security web of warships trying to protect vital shipping lanes.
The takeover demonstrates the bandits' heightened ambitions and capabilities: Never before have they seized such a giant ship so far out to sea. Maritime experts warned the broad daylight attack, reported by the U.S. Navy on Monday, was an alarming sign of the difficulty of patrolling a vast stretch of ocean key to oil and other cargo traffic.
The MV Sirius Star, a brand new tanker with a 25-member crew, was seized at about 10 a.m. Saturday more than 450 nautical miles southeast of Mombasa, Kenya, the Navy said. The area lies far south of the zone where warships have increased their patrols this year in the Gulf of Aden, one of the busiest channels in the world, leading to and from the Suez Canal, and the scene of most past attacks.

155 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:42:13pm
156 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:42:32pm

re: #149 gop_patriot

I think that she was hoping to be an extremely well-dressed "kept woman" in a very nice apartment with a large monthly deposit to her bank account.

Thought she came from money. . .

157 Outrider  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:42:39pm

re: #122 CalBear84

I fart in your general direction!

Dead?

158 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:42:46pm

re: #121 A Kiwi Infidel

If you mention goat feta I will throw up. I cannot bring that stuff within nostrill range before I dry-retch

I though feta was sheep cheese?

159 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:42:58pm

re: #144 Charles

Here come the sockpuppets.

He was a sock puppet for Lebron. Wow. (who is Lebron?)

160 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:42:59pm

Thank you all very much for your help. The information I garner here allows me to appear a lot smarter to my friends than I really am. I told my friend about LGF and he challenged me today to produce an answer tomorrow about Soros's citizenship. My response was no problemo. Thanks again.

It appears that Soros's marriage to Annaliese Witschak on September 17, 1960 is the reason he became a naturalized citizen. DAMN, with citizens like him, who needs external enemies.

161 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:43:04pm

re: #136 quickredfox

And to tie dreams back to cheese:

I wear the cheese. The cheese does not wear me.

Skip to about the 4 minute mark.

162 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:43:08pm

re: #153 Silhouette

At least the woman-hating countries will still have to deal with a broad.

They can united on their need to press Israel for painful concessions. . .

163 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:43:31pm
164 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:43:38pm

re: #143 DisturbedEma

Don't you mean semenential reasons?

(don't forget to tip your waitresses, folks :-)

165 opnion  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:43:43pm

re: #138 Iron Fist

I was never impressed. Of course, Clinton was stupid beyond words to get involved with her. I'm not so concerned that she'd be a call-girl (after Elliot Spitzer, it's kinda hard not to make the comparison :-), but that she could have been working for, say, the Chinese or something.

There's no question that if she'd been the blackmailing type, Clinton would have given her whatever she asked for. Though you do have to wonder why she didn't have the dress dry-cleaned.

Because a coworker & friend (Can't remember her name) told her to keep the dress as is, for protection.
If the dress was not slopped & the DNA not preserved, the Clintons would have had Lewinsky in a nut house.

166 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:43:50pm

re: #114 Iron Fist

My Girlfriend dragged me to one of those "organic" stores kinda like whole Foods. Talk about a target-rich environment! Moonbats to the Left of me and Moonbats to the right...

i have a gourmet friend who buys it. when i'm at a dinner party w/ these kind of people i love to say "wow this is as good as velveeta". lol
it really is delicious cheddar but not worth the price which i think they actually enjoy paying.
snobs

167 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:44:12pm

"If you keep subsidizing failure your society fails."

- Mark Levin about a minute and a half ago

168 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:44:25pm

re: #131 LeBron

What's up dudes and dudettes. Even though I supported Obama's campaign, I, as a famous professional athlete, would still like to keep my taxes low.

And if you don't believe that, it's great to be here anyway.

"This user is now blocked" One of the shortest lived lizards ever I believe

169 gregg  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:44:28pm

Prince (the singer) in the New Yorker:

So here’s how it is: you’ve got the Republicans, and basically they want to live according to this.” He pointed to a Bible. “But there’s the problem of interpretation, and you’ve got some churches, some people, basically doing things and saying it comes from here, but it doesn’t. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum you’ve got blue, you’ve got the Democrats, and they’re, like, ‘You can do whatever you want.’ Gay marriage, whatever. But neither of them is right.”

When asked about his perspective on social issues—gay marriage, abortion—Prince tapped his Bible and said, “God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, ‘Enough.’ ”

170 quickjustice  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:44:41pm

Anyone ever visit Robert Louis Stevenson State Park at the northern end of Napa Valley, near Calistoga?

171 opnion  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:45:00pm

re: #148 Walter L. Newton

I'm not aware of Greek Saganki, but it doesn't matter. The stronger the cheese is, the better I like it.

I thought I had good blue cheese in the states until I had some in eastern France. I could taste the cellar floor in it. Yummy.

It's that flaming cheese.

172 Shay4l  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:45:09pm
Many’s the long night I’ve dreamed of cheese - toasted, mostly.

— Robert Louis Stevenson

I bet he was toasted!

173 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:45:17pm

re: #164 Iron Fist

Don't you mean semenential reasons?

(don't forget to tip your waitresses, folks :-)

I don't think that was the seminal answer. ;)

174 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:45:49pm

re: #170 quickjustice

Anyone ever visit Robert Louis Stevenson State Park at the northern end of Napa Valley, near Calistoga?

I was ship wrecked there once.

175 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:46:01pm
176 Golem Akbar  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:46:08pm

re: #170 quickjustice

Anyone ever visit Robert Louis Stevenson State Park at the northern end of Napa Valley, near Calistoga?

No. I've been to Jack London Park in Sonoma County. Kinda near.

177 Outrider  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:46:13pm

re: #151 WrathofG-d

Geary's,

Cool. I'd like two of these please. Thanks. uh...you need my addy? lol

178 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:46:28pm

re: #168 fish

"This user is now blocked" One of the shortest lived lizards ever I believe

Kicked out due to "nonsubstance" abuse.

179 HoosierHoops  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:46:34pm

re: #159 Walter L. Newton

He was a sock puppet for Lebron. Wow. (who is Lebron?)

Not the real thing Walter..Lebron was in a shoot around during that time period...

180 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:47:09pm

re: #167 freedombilly

"If you keep subsidizing failure your society fails."

- Mark Levin about a minute and a half ago

Mmmmmhmmmmmmmm.

181 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:47:09pm

re: #179 HoosierHoops

Not the real thing Walter..Lebron was in a shoot around during that time period...

He now has one more comment than championship.

182 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:47:28pm

re: #170 quickjustice

Anyone ever visit Robert Louis Stevenson State Park at the northern end of Napa Valley, near Calistoga?

Actually that is one of my fave hiking spots. All around it.
I know all about it.

183 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:47:50pm

re: #163 ploome hineni

I love sharp cheddar

Good cheese is about the only redeeming quality of living this close to Madison WI.

184 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:47:55pm

WHO CUT THE CHEESE?

185 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:02pm
186 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:20pm

re: #130 Alouette

Marriage to a U.S. citizen does not make one a citizen. My daughter-in-law (Israeli) has been married to my son for 10 years and she can't even get a green card. She has to apply for a tourist visa whenever she visits the U.S. with her U.S. citizen (born abroad to a U.S. citizen) children.

I guess it helps to have a ton of money?


OH damn, here we go again just when I thought I had an answer down. If what you say is true, just how does one become a "naturalized citizen" without being born here?

187 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:20pm

re: #176 Golem Akbar

No. I've been to Jack London Park in Sonoma County. Kinda near.

I thought that was Jack Cheese State Park? (full circle)

188 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:22pm

re: #148 Walter L. Newton

I'm not aware of Greek Saganki, but it doesn't matter. The stronger the cheese is, the better I like it.

I thought I had good blue cheese in the states until I had some in eastern France. I could taste the cellar floor in it. Yummy.

Ah, French schmench, nothing beats a Humbolt Blue!

189 Charles  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:26pm

Former name: JSK1121. Banned for assassination joke-comment.

190 bosforus  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:30pm

re: #168 fish

"This user is now blocked" One of the shortest lived lizards ever I believe

Bwahaha, we didn't even have a chance to toy with him.

191 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:39pm

"Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid."

~ Mark Levin

192 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:41pm

re: #184 yochanan

WHO CUT THE CHEESE?

Obama will mandate that you spread it around before you cut it.

193 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:48:46pm

re: #170 quickjustice

Anyone ever visit Robert Louis Stevenson State Park at the northern end of Napa Valley, near Calistoga?

No, but I've been to his home in Monterey.

194 Brit in Japan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:49:09pm

Hello! I'm a hatchling. I've been a reader for over a year now, and finally got in the door. I feel like I know some of you quite well, though you've never even met me.

/Does that sound like a stalker?

K.

195 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:49:17pm

re: #186 GeeWiz

OH damn, here we go again just when I thought I had an answer down. If what you say is true, just how does one become a "naturalized citizen" without being born here?

Applying to become one.

196 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:49:30pm

re: #191 Miss Trixie

"Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid."

~ Mark Levin

Mmmmmhmmmmmmmm.

197 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:49:52pm

re: #156 DisturbedEma

Thought she came from money. . .

I don't know, did she? But the mistress idea was my first thought when I saw her making googly-eyes at the former President. *ugh hang on getting brain bleach* Like she wanted to be a modern day Marilyn Monroe. Maybe not all about the money, but the whole, I'm dating a President, look how cool I am "prestige" thing.

/I'm making little sense, sorry. Need food. lol

198 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:07pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

Thanks goodness I stay away from cheese of any sort. Mainly because I love it to much. really, I could gain more pounds on cheese than on chocolate.

I treat it as a main course.

some of the hard cheeses aren't nearly so fattening.
it's the triple cream camemberts that can put the pounds on a person.
also goat cheese is nice and not so caloric.

199 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:08pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

Welcome!

200 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:14pm

But, not just ANY cheese! US Government SURPLUS Cheese Food!

It's been specially re-blended since the mid-1980's for those with lactose intolerance--cause you all know how we want to end all forms of intolerance!

201 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:21pm

re: #188 Russkilitlover

Ah, French schmench, nothing beats a Humbolt Blue!

Nothing beat good cheese period. But as I said in my comment near the beginning of this thread, I say totally away from cheese. I would blow up like a balloon. I can't just eat a slice or two if I have it in house.

202 quickjustice  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:22pm

re: #182 rawmuse

Obvious question: Why is it named after RLS?

203 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:24pm

re: #116 fish

The most I have paid is 19.95 a pound for 12 year old Cheddar. (and it was worth every dime.)

Oh, I'll bet that was tasty. I've got a few wedges of English cheese in the fridge - Double Gloucester (actually Cotswold - with chives and onions, yum), Blue Stilton, Sage Derby, West Country Farmhouse Cheddar and yes, Wensleydale - that were all around $20 a pound (damned import duties). Great, wonderful, marvelous cheese, but too expensive to get very often. Like my bottle of Macallan 18-year old Scotch; I bought it more than 2 years ago and haven't finished it yet.

204 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:27pm
205 tommygum  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:31pm

re: #88 fish

With all the Former Clinton people Obama is hiring, Does anyone know if Monica has been contacted about her old job?

Chris Matthews beat her to it.

Narrowly edgeing out Olberdouche.

206 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:35pm

re: #186 GeeWiz

OH damn, here we go again just when I thought I had an answer down. If what you say is true, just how does one become a "naturalized citizen" without being born here?

Wiki on the naturalization process.

207 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:42pm
208 Twenglish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:53pm

The Room is filling up fast .....

209 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:55pm

re: #186 GeeWiz

OH damn, here we go again just when I thought I had an answer down. If what you say is true, just how does one become a "naturalized citizen" without being born here?


A natural born citizen is one who was born in the U.S. A naturalized citizen is a foreign-born person who acquires U.S. citizenship.

210 HoosierHoops  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:50:58pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

Hello! I'm a hatchling. I've been a reader for over a year now, and finally got in the door. I feel like I know some of you quite well, though you've never even met me.

/Does that sound like a stalker?

K.

welcome...nice you have been reading for a year..I know the feeling.

211 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:51:05pm

re: #196 freedombilly

Mmmmmhmmmmmmmm.

"We'll be right back."

~ Mark Levin

:D

212 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:51:39pm

re: #211 Miss Trixie

Thank me very much!

213 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:51:44pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

Hello! I'm a hatchling. I've been a reader for over a year now, and finally got in the door. I feel like I know some of you quite well, though you've never even met me.

/Does that sound like a stalker?

K.

Welcome, luv. I'm a Canucksicle in Ottawa. :D

214 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:51:46pm
215 bosforus  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:11pm

Just heard Clinton accepted Sec of State.

216 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:22pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan


/Does that sound like a stalker?

K.

A little bit...

Welcome anyway!

217 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:28pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

Hello! I'm a hatchling. I've been a reader for over a year now, and finally got in the door. I feel like I know some of you quite well, though you've never even met me.

/Does that sound like a stalker?

K.

Hey! Did Charles leave the door open again?!?

Seriously, welcome. :)

218 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:30pm

re: #177 Outrider

NICE! Hadn't seen that yet.

I'm working on getting some friends to pony up on this.

219 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:31pm

I understood that marriage to an American didn't automatically get you citizenship, but that it got you a green card and on the path to citizenship.

Alouette, were they married outside the US? And permanently reside outside? Maybe that is the difference.

220 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:39pm

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

I like Ferguson anyway, but the link you posted is absolutely great.

Thanks! I'd take a thousand more Scots like him, and they don't even have to be that good looking. Or that funny.

221 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:44pm

re: #215 bosforus

Just heard Clinton accepted Sec of State.

*BARF*

222 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:55pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

Hello! I'm a hatchling. I've been a reader for over a year now, and finally got in the door. I feel like I know some of you quite well, though you've never even met me.

/Does that sound like a stalker?

K.

Welcome aboard, mate.re: #205 tommygum

Chris Matthews beat her to it.

Narrowly edgeing out Olberdouche.

I know they'd go down on their knees, but....
I'm sorry, but this is just too gross of an image. Excuse me--I need a moment.////

223 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:52:57pm

re: #203 Spiny Norman

Oh, I'll bet that was tasty. I've got a few wedges of English cheese in the fridge - Double Gloucester (actually Cotswold - with chives and onions, yum), Blue Stilton, Sage Derby, West Country Farmhouse Cheddar and yes, Wensleydale - that were all around $20 a pound (damned import duties). Great, wonderful, marvelous cheese, but too expensive to get very often. Like my bottle of Macallan 18-year old Scotch; I bought it more than 2 years ago and haven't finished it yet.

Your nic should be Wallace.

224 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:04pm

re: #130 Alouette

Marriage to a U.S. citizen does not make one a citizen. My daughter-in-law (Israeli) has been married to my son for 10 years and she can't even get a green card. She has to apply for a tourist visa whenever she visits the U.S. with her U.S. citizen (born abroad to a U.S. citizen) children.

I guess it helps to have a ton of money?

I'm surprised. While I know it's not automatic, I thought that being married to a US citizen made it considerably easier to become naturalized.

225 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:06pm

re: #202 quickjustice

Obvious question: Why is it named after RLS?

That is where he went to convalesce from tuberculosis. He had a cabin up a switchback trail on the west side of route 24. No longer standing, just a pile of rocks where the foundation was, but there is a monument there. While there, he wrote "Silverado Squatters".

I could write about that entire area for thousands of words. My wife and I hike there repeatedly, in all weather.

226 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:07pm
227 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:19pm

Has anyone laughed at Mark "Charged With Insider Trading" Cuban yet? If not, may I be the first?

228 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:43pm

re: #215 bosforus

Just heard Clinton accepted Sec of State.

Would that make her more, or less, irrelevant than Senator Clinton?

229 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:46pm

re: #215 bosforus

Just heard Clinton accepted Sec of State.

OK. Could have been worse. Could have been Kerry. Could have re-animated Warren Christopher.

230 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:50pm

re: #198 nyc redneck

some of the hard cheeses aren't nearly so fattening.
it's the triple cream camemberts that can put the pounds on a person.
also goat cheese is nice and not so caloric.

I like to marinate Machego cheese - it's a Spanish sheeps cheese, that I marinate in olive oil, lime juice, white balsamic vinegar, pepper and tarragon. Let sit for 3 days. Wow, is it ever yummy

231 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:53:59pm

re: #215 bosforus

Just heard Clinton accepted Sec of State.

Better than Health and Human Services, or we'd be looking at Hillarycare.

232 Mojave  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:12pm

I've finally been able to register!

233 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:14pm

re: #198 nyc redneck

some of the hard cheeses aren't nearly so fattening.
it's the triple cream camemberts that can put the pounds on a person.
also goat cheese is nice and not so caloric.

Hiya, toots. Mu younger sister loooooves soft, triple cream cheeses and once ate so much over Christmas that she packed on the pounds and when she walked away from you, her butt looked like two dogs fighting under a blanket.

234 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:27pm

re: #228 solomonpanting

Would that make her more, or less, irrelevant than Senator Clinton?


More. Much more irrelevant.

235 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:28pm

re: #200 calcajun

But, not just ANY cheese! US Government SURPLUS Cheese Food!

Why do they keep having government surplus cheese. Guys, cut back on production.

/

236 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:38pm

re: #215 bosforus

Just heard Clinton accepted Sec of State.

Just why are the only mentions of this on Drudge coming from the UK Guardian?!?

And will this make being a woman acceptable again to the MSM?

237 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:40pm

re: #227 Wyatt Earp

Has anyone laughed at Mark "Charged With Insider Trading" Cuban yet? If not, may I be the first?

Hopefully for him he can play defense against these charges better than Dirk Nowitski.

238 quickjustice  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:53pm

re: #225 rawmuse

I never knew that Stevenson wrote some of his best stuff while living in California. Interesting.

239 bosforus  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:58pm

re: #231 angst

Better than Health and Human Services, or we'd be looking at Hillarycare.

Amen to that.

240 Shay4l  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:54:59pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

Hello! I'm a hatchling. I've been a reader for over a year now, and finally got in the door. I feel like I know some of you quite well, though you've never even met me.

/Does that sound like a stalker?

K.

Welcome! It's great to have people able to give us info and perspective from around the globe, and to keep the late night North American lizards company ;o)

241 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:05pm

re: #237 freedombilly

Hopefully for him he can play defense against these charges better than Dirk Nowitski.


Bawahahahahaha! Zing!

242 outsidephilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:15pm

the sounds of Randy Newman always brings a smile to my face . . . , Randy, Larry Norman, Phil Keaggy, Doyle Dykes . . . . . , they really make great sounds with their music!

243 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:41pm

re: #228 solomonpanting

Would that make her more, or less, irrelevant than Senator Clinton?

Makes for 3 Senate seats that could change the balance.

Yeah, I know, bloody unlikely, but we can hope for change, can't we? ;)

244 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:41pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

Welcome hatchling!

245 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:50pm

re: #232 Mojave

I've finally been able to register!


Ah! The door opens and we get a desert lizard?

246 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:51pm

re: #198 nyc redneck

some of the hard cheeses aren't nearly so fattening.
it's the triple cream camemberts that can put the pounds on a person. also goat cheese is nice and not so caloric.

I eat a greek salad for supper at least 2-3 times a week when I am in downtown Golden, just before each show. We have a deli down there near the theatre and they have decent prices, decent food and it's all pretty fresh. Of course, they toss a little feta on it. And balsamic vinegar is tasty without the calories of other sorts or dressing.

But I probably could turn the lowest calorie cheese into pounds of fat because I would over indulge.

I have fought the poundage battle all my life. I only buy a couple of days worth of food because I would tend to overeat even the healthy items I buy.

It's a routine that works for me. I know my limits.

247 deek  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:52pm

Ummm...Haloumi. Toasts quite nicely on the grill.

248 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:55pm

re: #175 ploome hineni

her father is a physician, her family has money

But it's not hers. ;) Oh well, y'all are probably right. It was still my first thought when the whole story broke, though. The entire world finding out about it wasn't in her plans, I'm sure. LOL

249 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:55:55pm

re: #212 freedombilly

Thank me very much!

"GET OF THE BLOG YA BIG DOPE!"

~ Miss Trixie

:D

250 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:06pm

re: #232 Mojave

I've finally been able to register!

Hmph. Only one post. Must be a troll.

////////

251 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:15pm

re: #215 bosforus

BARF!

252 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:18pm

re: #157 Outrider

No, really, I'm feeling MUCH better!

253 snowcrash  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:23pm

Duh moment. Registration is OPEN! Welcome hatchlings.

254 Shay4l  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:24pm

re: #215 bosforus

Just heard Clinton accepted Sec of State.

Whoah! What did she see in this more lucrative than Senator for life? It's kinda scary!

255 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:29pm

re: #214 ploome hineni

COSTCO for cheese, you would be surprised

Do they have imported cheese? I haven't been to a Costco in years. The local Stater Bros. Market (a California discount supermarket) has a "gourmet deli" kiosk that has all sorts of wonders that change from week to week. Even there the imported goodies aren't all that cheap.

256 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:30pm

re: #245 reloadingisnotahobby

Ah! The door opens and we get a desert lizard?

Ooooh! A rarity! ;)

257 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:35pm

re: #249 Miss Trixie

"GET OF THE BLOG YA BIG DOPE!"

~ Miss Trixie

:D

ROTFLMAO!

258 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:56:39pm

re: #149 gop_patriot

I think that she was hoping to be an extremely well-dressed "kept woman" in a very nice apartment with a large monthly deposit to her bank account.

i wonder why she didn't see that he was a serial molester and a very unreliable sugar daddy. i vividly remember a news clip of bill w/ several young women around him. one was monica smiling and blushing like a school girl w/ an out of control mad crush on "the perfect guy".
sad.

259 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:00pm

re: #236 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just why are the only mentions of this on Drudge coming from the UK Guardian?!?

And will this make being a woman acceptable again to the MSM?

Drudge was probably surfing there when it hit. Although, I never could understand why some of those Brit news orgs. devote so much time to a country they don't like.

260 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:01pm

re: #238 quickjustice

I never knew that Stevenson wrote some of his best stuff while living in California. Interesting.

I am a big fan of a lot of authors of that era, including himself, Jack London, Bret Harte, and Mark Twain. They were early founders of a certain club.

261 Racer X  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:06pm

re: #236 FurryOldGuyJeans

And will this make being a woman acceptable again to the MSM?


Only if she is a democrat.

262 quickredfox  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:17pm

re: #203 Spiny Norman

Oh, I'll bet that was tasty. I've got a few wedges of English cheese in the fridge - Double Gloucester (actually Cotswold - with chives and onions, yum), Blue Stilton, Sage Derby, West Country Farmhouse Cheddar and yes, Wensleydale - that were all around $20 a pound (damned import duties). Great, wonderful, marvelous cheese, but too expensive to get very often. Like my bottle of Macallan 18-year old Scotch; I bought it more than 2 years ago and haven't finished it yet.

All my favorites!

263 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:32pm

re: #255 Spiny Norman

Do they have imported cheese? I haven't been to a Costco in years. The local Stater Bros. Market (a California discount supermarket) has a "gourmet deli" kiosk that has all sorts of wonders that change from week to week. Even there the imported goodies aren't all that cheap.

Costco has excellent prices on some very fine cheeses.

264 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:36pm

Another new hatchling! Bless the reptilian overlords, I finally managed to get myself registered!

265 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:50pm

Where's Rustler when you need him? Door is open!

266 outsidephilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:52pm

re: #264 Guanxi88

welcome!

267 Brit in Japan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:57:57pm

re: #226 ploome hineni

194 Brit in Japan

have we met?

Possibly. Do you recognise "bds"?

/Or are you making a joke I don't get.

K.

268 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:58:14pm

re: #261 Racer X

Only if she is a democrat.

With Clinton it is hard as hell to tell just what she is.

269 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:58:20pm

re: #264 Guanxi88

Another new hatchling! Bless the reptilian overlords, I finally managed to get myself registered!

Welcome! Now get me a Guinness, rookie. Chop chop!

270 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:58:37pm

re: #168 fish

a nano-lizard...

271 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:58:40pm

re: #223 doppelganglander

Your nic should be Wallace.

Heh.

Perhaps my "addiction" to cheese is part of why I love Wallace and Gromit.

;^)

272 Bobibutu  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:58:48pm

re: #264 Guanxi88

Another new hatchling! Bless the reptilian overlords, I finally managed to get myself registered!

Welcome aboard.

273 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:59:20pm

So, it's HRC for the Sec of State. Say this for BHO, he managed to find the one person about whom I can say, "yeah, she would be worse than Albright." Can't wait to see what sort of a mess they'll get us into.

274 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:59:26pm

re: #231 angst

Better than Health and Human Services, or we'd be looking at Hillarycare.

Comrade Barry still better get the food tasters with HRC in the cabinet. I wonder if, just for a fleeting moment, she thought--"I'd only be four heart-beats away. But, how?"///

Seriously, she is a decent choice considering all the others out there. Her (initial) pro-Iraq war stance means we are in Iraq till it really is over. How is she going to deal with Iran is a mystery.

On the other hand, if she is complicit in her husband's schemes to take money from China, how will she have any credibility with Beijing?

275 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:59:36pm

re: #263 Russkilitlover

Costco has excellent prices on some very fine cheeses.

I must check that out.

276 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:59:52pm

Welcome, Mojave. :D

I'm the cute brunette Canucksicle with great legs.

:D

277 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 3:59:53pm

re: #203 Spiny Norman

Oh, I'll bet that was tasty. I've got a few wedges of English cheese in the fridge - Double Gloucester (actually Cotswold - with chives and onions, yum), Blue Stilton, Sage Derby, West Country Farmhouse Cheddar and yes, Wensleydale - that were all around $20 a pound (damned import duties). Great, wonderful, marvelous cheese, but too expensive to get very often. Like my bottle of Macallan 18-year old Scotch; I bought it more than 2 years ago and haven't finished it yet.

I tried Wensleydale simply because of The Cheese Shop skit. Now I'm hooked - that and cracked pepper Gouda from a local cheese shop and I'm in heaven.

278 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:02pm

re: #189 Charles

Some things are just not funny.

279 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:03pm

re: #269 Wyatt Earp

Welcome! Now get me a Guinness, rookie. Chop chop!

My apologies, but beverages are reserved for personal use.

280 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:06pm

re: #264 Guanxi88

Another new hatchling! Bless the reptilian overlords, I finally managed to get myself registered!

Hatchlings! Take notice! THIS is the way to suck up! ;)

281 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:19pm

re: #234 Wyatt Earp

More. Much more irrelevant.

True. It would keep her quiet. Guess we now know that the DNC is going to pay off her debts.

282 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:22pm

Well heck,I was just cruising along here thinking to myself that there's just no way you can ruin a good cheese thread...and then I saw the part about Hillary.

283 quickjustice  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:46pm

re: #260 rawmuse

Twain's a particular favorite of mine, although he was the anti Teddy Roosevelt. I'll bite. What club?

284 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:54pm

re: #275 Spiny Norman
If I lived closer to a costco it would be the only place I'd shop!

285 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:00:55pm

re: #279 Guanxi88

My apologies, but beverages are reserved for personal use.

*BUZZ* Wrong answer!

286 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:02pm

re: #233 Miss Trixie

Hiya, toots. Mu younger sister loooooves soft, triple cream cheeses and once ate so much over Christmas that she packed on the pounds and when she walked away from you, her butt looked like two dogs fighting under a blanket.

ROTFLOL! That's some mental image! X)

287 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:18pm

re: #258 nyc redneck

i wonder why she didn't see that he was a serial molester and a very unreliable sugar daddy. i vividly remember a news clip of bill w/ several young women around him. one was monica smiling and blushing like a school girl w/ an out of control mad crush on "the perfect guy".
sad.

Someone said upthread they thought Monica thought Bill would leave hilary and marry her. I think Monica was very much enamored of Bill. I wonder how she felt when he referred to her as "... THAT woman".

Talk about a misogynist

288 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:26pm

Did any hatchlings bring any cheese? Dang, now I've got a serious jones going on.
/bbiab

289 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:30pm

re: #277 Russkilitlover

I tried Wensleydale simply because of The Cheese Shop skit. Now I'm hooked - that and cracked pepper Gouda from a local cheese shop and I'm in heaven.

Yes, but where is the damned Venezuelan beaver's cheese.///


Hugo Chavez joke in 5-4-3-2...

290 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:32pm

re: #281 calcajun

True. It would keep her quiet. Guess we now know that the DNC is going to pay off her debts.

Her big-time political career is effectively dead. You don't go to POTUS from SecState. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

291 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:40pm

re: #227 Wyatt Earp

Has anyone laughed at Mark "Charged With Insider Trading" Cuban yet? If not, may I be the first?

Wasn't Cuban involved in producing some kind of 9-11 troofer propaganda?

Ask yourselves, troofers, could this be what happens to moneygrubbers who consort with you? Think cause/effect.
Be afraid, conspiraliars, be very afraid.

292 wolfie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:42pm

re: #186 GeeWiz

Marriage to a US citizen, not to mention being the parent of a US citizen, puts you to the head of the line. But you have to establish permanent residency in the USA. Thus, e.g., my mother was married to a natural-born US citizen and therefore all six of her kids were US citizens; but she was not qualified to be a US citizen until she had been married nearly 30 years......because they did not actually live in the USA until she was in her fifties. (You have to be a "resident alien" before you can apply for citizenship.)

293 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:01:50pm

re: #283 quickjustice

Twain's a particular favorite of mine, although he was the anti Teddy Roosevelt. I'll bite. What club?

The Bohemian Club.

294 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:02:06pm

re: #233 Miss Trixie

Hiya, toots. Mu younger sister loooooves soft, triple cream cheeses and once ate so much over Christmas that she packed on the pounds and when she walked away from you, her butt looked like two dogs fighting under a blanket.

Is she single?

295 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:02:09pm
296 gop_patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:02:13pm

re: #279 Guanxi88

Welcome!

So, what's your nic mean?

297 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:02:31pm

re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans

Eh, I'm a toady, true enough, but even unscrupulous loyalty has its limits, and they are rather sharply defined.

But, if you're buying, I'd be honored to fetch it for you.

298 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:02:44pm

re: #291 Shiplord Kirel

Wasn't Cuban involved in producing some kind of 9-11 troofer propaganda?

Ask yourselves, troofers, could this be what happens to moneygrubbers who consort with you? Think cause/effect.
Be afraid, conspiraliars, be very afraid.


Correct, and he is also a big-time lib. Go figure. Now, he may soon be someone's own, personal hand puppet.

299 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:02:44pm

re: #165 opnion

Because a coworker & friend (Can't remember her name) told her to keep the dress as is, for protection.
If the dress was not slopped & the DNA not preserved, the Clintons would have had Lewinsky in a nut house.

Linda Tripp. . .

300 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:02:52pm

re: #289 calcajun

Yes, but where is the damned Venezuelan beaver's cheese.///

The cat's eaten it.

301 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:03:01pm

welcome hatchlings

302 heyou  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:03:14pm

I'm an old hatchling that didn't properly introduce myself - so like "hi" and I've been lurking since before the days of the dinosaurs

303 mensamann  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:03:16pm

Welcome to all the new hatchlings... Now where's my check?

304 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:03:17pm

re: #297 Guanxi88

Eh, I'm a toady, true enough, but even unscrupulous loyalty has its limits, and they are rather sharply defined.

But, if you're buying, I'd be honored to fetch it for you.

Hatchlings always buy the rounds as part of there initiation.

305 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:03:20pm

re: #293 rawmuse

And I know where (according to my husband) where the Bohemian club is.

306 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:03:47pm

re: #274 calcajun

BOTH obama and o'biden will need food testers as the sec. of state is 3rd in line.

307 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:03:59pm

re: #274 calcajun

Comrade Barry still better get the food tasters with HRC in the cabinet. I wonder if, just for a fleeting moment, she thought--"I'd only be four heart-beats away. But, how?"///

Seriously, she is a decent choice considering all the others out there. Her (initial) pro-Iraq war stance means we are in Iraq till it really is over. How is she going to deal with Iran is a mystery.

On the other hand, if she is complicit in her husband's schemes to take money from China, how will she have any credibility with Beijing?

Really, I'm not all that unhappy with her, either. I'm not too well-versed in the nuances of Bill and Beijing but she's been about as solid as a Dem can be with respect to the middle east. I would have preferred her over Obama, but I guess that's not saying much!

308 HoosierHoops  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:09pm

re: #276 Miss Trixie

Welcome, Mojave. :D

I'm the cute brunette Canucksicle with great legs.

:D

You have got the cutest legs I've ever seen...

309 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:09pm

re: #296 gop_patriot

"Guanxi" = connections; a business thing, especially among those folks from whom the Clinton crime family have taken so much money. (no, not the arabs; little further east).

310 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:11pm

re: #233 Miss Trixie

Hiya, toots. Mu younger sister loooooves soft, triple cream cheeses and once ate so much over Christmas that she packed on the pounds and when she walked away from you, her butt looked like two dogs fighting under a blanket.

ROFLMAO

311 Thor-Zone  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:11pm

re: #273 Guanxi88

So, it's HRC for the Sec of State. Say this for BHO, he managed to find the one person about whom I can say, "yeah, she would be worse than Albright." Can't wait to see what sort of a mess they'll get us into.

Not bad for a hatchling! Welcome aboard!

312 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:25pm

re: #290 Wyatt Earp

Actually, she is in a spot where she could make it. If the admin falls apart and she jumps ship early, she could try again. Otherwise, by 2016, she is going to be too old.

313 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:47pm

re: #274 calcajun

On the

other hand, if she is complicit in her husband's schemes to take money from China, how will she have any credibility with Beijing?

The Chinese will devour her. She'll be their main chow.

314 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:54pm

re: #302 heyou

I'm an old hatchling that didn't properly introduce myself - so like "hi" and I've been lurking since before the days of the dinosaurs

6,000 years? Or millions of years?

315 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:56pm

re: #309 Guanxi88

"Guanxi" = connections; a business thing, especially among those folks from whom the Clinton crime family have taken so much money. (no, not the arabs; little further east).

So, are you in China?

316 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:04:59pm

re: #306 yochanan

BOTH obama and o'biden will need food testers as the sec. of state is 3rd in line.

Nope.

Third is speaker of the house - Pelosi

And fourth is everyone's favorite Ku Klux Klanman, Robert Byrd.

317 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:17pm
318 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:19pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

Close; Austin.

319 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:21pm

re: #312 calcajun

Actually, she is in a spot where she could make it. If the admin falls apart and she jumps ship early, she could try again. Otherwise, by 2016, she is going to be too old.


See? Now you're killing my buzz! :D

320 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:32pm

re: #306 yochanan

BOTH obama and o'biden will need food testers as the sec. of state is 3rd in line.

Nope. It's POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate.

321 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:34pm

re: #307 angst

Really, I'm not all that unhappy with her, either. I'm not too well-versed in the nuances of Bill and Beijing but she's been about as solid as a Dem can be with respect to the middle east. I would have preferred her over Obama, but I guess that's not saying much!

I also think it's very sad that the Democrats have sunk so low that I think Hillary looks great.

322 Bloody Barry  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:49pm

Good Evening!

323 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:54pm

Poll (this is not a scientific survey).

If Hillary becomes Secretary of State, Bill becomes Ambassador to:

1) Pakistan
2) Sudan
3) Burnkina Faso.

(Iran is not an option, as we do not have diplomatic relations.)

324 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:05:58pm

Wooo whooooo I'm finally in. SO happy to be able to finally post with such gifted minds of LGF.

325 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:10pm

re: #311 Thor-Zone

I never thought anyone could be worse than Albright! Especially after she ran after Arafat!
Oh! And did she not all of a sudden realize she was Jewish?

326 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:15pm

re: #318 Guanxi88

Close; Austin.

ha my sis is in austin

327 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:17pm

re: #313 solomonpanting

On the

The Chinese will devour her. She'll be their main chow.

I don't think any of our foreign contacts have had to go up against Hillary. This should be very interesting. I don't think I'd bet against her.

328 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:22pm

re: #318 Guanxi88

Close; Austin.

Oh goody, smart ass. I'm going to have fun. Welcome.
/s

329 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:27pm
330 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:35pm

good night lizards may the farce be with you.

331 devious_soybeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:41pm

After all the years I've been on the outside, reading in.... I'm finally on the inside.... and though it doesn't smell that good, I'm glad to be standing amongst the good and sane

332 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:51pm

re: #324 WrathofG-d

Wooo whooooo I'm finally in. SO happy to be able to finally post with such gifted minds of LGF.

Now if you could just get links to work.

333 big L  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:55pm

al-Guardian is saying that Hillary is going to accept the Secy of State job. I had no idea she had diplomatic skills.
I wonder if she'll use april Galespie as he role model
(US ambassador who indidcated that Saddam could move into Kuwait, that it'd be ok.)

334 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:59pm

re: #325 cathypop

We can expect much the same thing from HRC, probably right before the last Jewish Israeli is evacuated from Jerusalem.

335 Lee Coller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:06:59pm

re: #306 yochanan

BOTH obama and o'biden will need food testers as the sec. of state is 3rd in line.

I thought Al Haig was third in line?

336 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:01pm

re: #318 Guanxi88

Walter, in Austin or outside of it?

337 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:16pm

re: #194 Brit in Japan

re: #227 Wyatt Earp

Could not have happened to a nicer guy...

338 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:20pm

re: #325 cathypop

I never thought anyone could be worse than Albright! Especially after she ran after Arafat!
Oh! And did she not all of a sudden realize she was Jewish?

Why yes, I think she did have that particular epiphany at some point. Late in life.

339 Abu Lahab  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:23pm

Charles, there is a small issue with the RSS in the left bar, I e-mailed you about it but I'm not sure my e-mail made it to you. It's not a big mistake or anything but I thought I should report it since I use that helpful menu a lot.
Snapped Shot RSS isn't working for some reason. Is that related to them?

340 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:33pm

re: #331 devious_soybeans

and though it doesn't smell that good,

It's a cheese thread. Usually they smell better.

341 mensamann  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:42pm

re: #323 transient

South Beach

342 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:49pm

re: #324 WrathofG-d

Wooo whooooo I'm finally in. SO happy to be able to finally post with such gifted minds of LGF.


AAHHH ShAADDAAAPPPP!
lol

343 TimothyJ  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:07:50pm

Thanks for opening the registration. I read (really) the information on registration, and it says no free email sites such as yahoo due to trolls and spammers. I assure you I am neither, just a very (did I say very?) poor guy on disability and no money to spend. I did try to figure out Surewest's email, but never was able to. If needed I'll try again, if you truly don't like yahoo emails. Check some of the other sites, such as mm, ha, AofS, and so forth for comments I have made over the months. Hopefully they are interesting. Thanks lgf!

344 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:01pm

re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans

Once again, thank you very much for educating me on the subject. I knew I would find the answer here.

345 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:03pm

re: #290 Wyatt Earp

Her big-time political career is effectively dead. You don't go to POTUS from SecState. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

OH I agree, she is completely out of the picture for any thing other than the speaking circuit. But I STILL think she was the best choice of the so called short list. Not that I like her much but can you even IMAGINE Kerry or Richardson?

346 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:04pm

re: #316 Silhouette

Nope.

Third is speaker of the house - Pelosi

And fourth is everyone's favorite Ku Klux Klanman, Robert Byrd.

Pelosi is 2nd, not third...which would be Byrd. VP is 1st in line. SecState is 4th. Wiki Presidential Line of Succession.

I know, semantics, but gotta be accurate. ;)

347 Charles  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:13pm

Shutting off registration now - might turn it back on a bit later.

348 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:17pm

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

Say what you will about Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State (and I'm sure I, for one, will), she has consistently expressed a more serious understanding of the jihadist threat than Obama, Reid, or Pelosi.

Not by much, perhaps. But marginal differences, at this point, are huge.

I agree.

349 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:23pm

re: #336 cathypop

Walter, in Austin or outside of it?

No Kathy. Guanxi88 is in Austin.

350 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:24pm

re: #331 devious_soybeans

After all the years I've been on the outside, reading in.... I'm finally on the inside.... and though it doesn't smell that good, I'm glad to be standing amongst the good and sane

do you prefer the nickname "tofu" or 'sprout'

351 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:30pm

re: #332 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Hey! I'm new, I'll figure it out soon enough. What am I rush class of Winter 2008?

352 gdonovan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:42pm

I made it after 2 years!

353 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:08:57pm

re: #349 Walter L. Newton

OOPS!

354 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:13pm

re: #323 transient

Poll (this is not a scientific survey).

If Hillary becomes Secretary of State, Bill becomes Ambassador to:

1) Pakistan
2) Sudan
3) Burnkina Faso.

(Iran is not an option, as we do not have diplomatic relations.)

UN ambassador.

355 Eowyn2  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:14pm

re: #324 WrathofG-d

Wooo whooooo I'm finally in. SO happy to be able to finally post with such gifted minds of LGF.

its those invisible posts and links that drive everyone to new mental heights.

356 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:17pm

MELTED CHEESE - MMMMM! - Homer Simpson +/- 1991

-S-

357 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:18pm

re: #331 devious_soybeans

After all the years I've been on the outside, reading in.... I'm finally on the inside.... and though it doesn't smell that good, I'm glad to be standing amongst the good and sane


WHAT? YOU DON'T LIKE CHEESE?

358 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:21pm

re: #286 gop_patriot

ROTFLOL! That's some mental image! X)

She's a loverly lady and I adore her but she often unleashes her merciless gourmet palate and pays the price.

My weaknesses are dark chocolate and Aussie Shiraz among other things.

359 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:27pm

re: #345 fish

OH I agree, she is completely out of the picture for any thing other than the speaking circuit. But I STILL think she was the best choice of the so called short list. Not that I like her much but can you even IMAGINE Kerry or Richardson?

Agreed. This choice looks pretty good.

God, I feel so dirty after writing that.

360 Bloody Barry  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:33pm

Re: the Saudi Tanker & the President Elect

CNAS on Piracy:

[Link: www.cnas.org...]

[Link: www.cnas.org...]

[Link: www.cnas.org...]

361 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:34pm

re: #347 Charles

Shutting off registration now - might turn it back on a bit later.

Tease ;)

362 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:45pm

re: #353 cathypop

OOPS!

I am in Golden, Colorado. Home of Coors. The city that is trying hard to become Boulder South.

363 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:09:52pm

re: #325 cathypop

I never thought anyone could be worse than Albright! Especially after she ran after Arafat!
Oh! And did she not all of a sudden realize she was Jewish?

Yeah, after hugging Suha. . .

364 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:00pm

re: #351 WrathofG-d

Hey! I'm new, I'll figure it out soon enough. What am I rush class of Winter 2008?

It is autumn in the northern hemisphere, and spring down under.

Ain't winter nowheres.

365 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:03pm

re: #230 Russkilitlover

I like to marinate Machego cheese - it's a Spanish sheeps cheese, that I marinate in olive oil, lime juice, white balsamic vinegar, pepper and tarragon. Let sit for 3 days. Wow, is it ever yummy

that sounds so wonderful. the line juice sounds like a fabulous touch.
i love cheese. sometimes my supper is a little salad, cheese, crackers and fruit. especially if i'm dining alone.

366 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:12pm

Hey Ahnold - fire season is another form of jihad - wake up, Jerkinator.

367 Ruttgen  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:12pm

I keep thinking the picks for BO's cabinet are going to make all Americans feel as if they are part of the Government, but with each pick I am sadly mistaken.

Partisan--left of center--liberal and borderline socialist in their combined mentality.....what else can go wrong?

368 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:19pm

re: #352 gdonovan

I made it after 2 years!

after 2 years of what?

369 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:23pm

re: #347 Charles

Many thanks for opening it up, and I swear, to all the Overlords, when I see you in any Austin bar, I'll get the first round.

Of course, as I do all my drinking at home, in secret, watching the History Channel...

370 opnion  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:25pm

re: #299 DisturbedEma

Linda Tripp. . .


Bingo!

371 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:32pm

Welcome Hatchings...

372 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:37pm

re: #358 Miss Trixie

She's a loverly lady and I adore her but she often unleashes her merciless gourmet palate and pays the price.

My weaknesses are dark chocolate and Aussie Shiraz among other things.

Dark chocolate is a health food. Really.

373 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:52pm
374 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:10:59pm

re: #318 Guanxi88

re: #362 Walter L. Newton


What's Boulder South? Alot of illegals?

375 lemonpie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:03pm

Ahhhhhhhh. Commenting because I CAN! Just got in under the wire. Registration closed a split second after I registered. Life is good. (Okay, I do have a real life too, but after 5 years of waiting....)

376 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:11pm

re: #365 nyc redneck

that sounds so wonderful. the line juice sounds like a fabulous touch.
i love cheese. sometimes my supper is a little salad, cheese, crackers and fruit. especially if i'm dining alone.

If you have some strawberries, blue cheese and a sweet blush wine vinegrette and some pecans, it goes great on some chopped romaine lettuce. yummmmm

377 orfannkyl  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:13pm

Cheese is good, but what about pie?

378 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:26pm

re: #375 lemonpie

Congrats!

379 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:31pm

re: #277 Russkilitlover

I tried Wensleydale simply because of The Cheese Shop skit. Now I'm hooked - that and cracked pepper Gouda from a local cheese shop and I'm in heaven.

In my case, it was Wallace and Gromit.

Interestingly, the popularity of Wallace and Gromit probably saved Wensleydale from extinction. I'm serious.

380 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:33pm

re: #325 cathypop

I never thought anyone could be worse than Albright! Especially after she ran after Arafat!
Oh! And did she not all of a sudden realize she was Jewish?

In all fairness, it was concealed from her when she was a child. Her parents converted to avoid persecution and she was raised Protestant.

381 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:35pm

re: #354 FurryOldGuyJeans

UN ambassador.

"FOG-J" -

The former President becomes Ambassador to Narcissus - KING of MIRRORS.

-S-

382 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:35pm

re: #291 Shiplord Kirel
Yes he was.
IIRC, it was a POS movie called "Redacted"
I think 6 people watched it.

383 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:40pm

re: #316 Silhouette

i stand corrected going to be plenty of gov't jobs food tasters.

384 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:48pm

Sorry Walter, out to lunch.

Previuos thread, the missing navel

385 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:48pm

re: #321 angst

I also think it's very sad that the Democrats have sunk so low that I think Hillary looks great.

I think it's very sad that the REPUBLICANS have sunk so low that I think Hillary isn't as bad a choice as some in our own party would have been. It's time to fumigate the Republican party with a heavy dose of "RINO-Be-Gone".

386 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:11:51pm

re: #375 lemonpie

Ahhhhhhhh. Commenting because I CAN! Just got in under the wire. Registration closed a split second after I registered. Life is good. (Okay, I do have a real life too, but after 5 years of waiting....)

Hatchlings are not allowed to have a real life. ;)

387 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:00pm

re: #373 buzzsawmonkey

I think the reaction that would set in after hugging Suha Arafat would bring out the latent Jew in David Duke.

Well put, I concur

388 diablo14t  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:04pm

New hatchling here. Been lurking for a long time and finally clicked in when registration is open. Glad to be here.

389 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:11pm

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

Is she single?

ROFL!

Potential Wife #5? Haven't you tortured yourself enough?

:P

390 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:32pm

re: #362 Walter L. Newton

I am in Golden, Colorado. Home of Coors. The city that is trying hard to become Boulder South.

Until the day he died my Dad would not drink Coors because of the unions. But, he used to be a coal miner in the bad old days so I could see his point.

391 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:33pm

Listening to Levin and blogging on LGF is hard on the brain. TMI

392 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:36pm

re: #365 nyc redneck

that sounds so wonderful. the line juice sounds like a fabulous touch.
i love cheese. sometimes my supper is a little salad, cheese, crackers and fruit. especially if i'm dining alone.

You can further reduce the calories by leaving out the crackers and substituting a tomato slice from the smaller varieties - cherry, grape, campo.

393 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:46pm

re: #388 diablo14t

New hatchling here. Been lurking for a long time and finally clicked in when registration is open. Glad to be here.

Glad to have you.

394 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:50pm

re: #388 diablo14t

New hatchling here. Been lurking for a long time and finally clicked in when registration is open. Glad to be here.


Welcome. I need a refill on that Guinness, please!

395 transient  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:54pm

re: #354 FurryOldGuyJeans

UN ambassador.

Oh no no no, he can get into way too much trouble in NYC.
Could embarrass Hillary and Obama, and butt in where he is definitely not wanted.

396 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:12:56pm

Eening all! Not to go off topic (but this is sorta an open tread)
I was crusing Fox and found a nominee for Idiot of the Year award...

Dumb Ass of the Year

397 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:06pm

re: #372 Russkilitlover

Dark chocolate is a health food. Really.

So is Shiraz!

398 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:07pm

re: #369 Guanxi88

Cities of The Underworld?
You'll fit in fine!
Now, about that beer?........

399 gmsc  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:14pm

re: #346 FurryOldGuyJeans

Pelosi is 2nd, not third...which would be Byrd. VP is 1st in line. SecState is 4th. Wiki Presidential Line of Succession.

I know, semantics, but gotta be accurate. ;)

It depends on whether you consider the President or Vice-President as 1st in the line of succession.

400 96RoadKing  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:16pm

I think if Hillary gets State, Bill will be heading to Thailand (in order to find out more about that sex trade problem they have there). What a guy!

401 Mojave  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:17pm

re: #245 reloadingisnotahobby

Ah! The door opens and we get a desert lizard?

Sort of!

402 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:18pm
403 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:27pm

re: #380 doppelganglander

Maybe so but she USED it to her advantage.

404 Racer X  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:33pm

Offering McCain a cabinet position shows Obama has true leadership skills.

/troll bait.

405 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:35pm

re: #380 doppelganglander

In all fairness, it was concealed from her when she was a child. Her parents converted to avoid persecution and she was raised Protestant.

That was Albright. . .Clinton's story, I thought, went away after much ballyhoo

406 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:38pm

re: #389 Miss Trixie

ROFL!

Potential Wife #5? Haven't you tortured yourself enough?

:P

I need to work on getting #2 ;)

407 quickjustice  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:13:54pm

re: #293 rawmuse

Twain was merely an honorary member, but an interesting organization nonetheless:

[Link: sociology.ucsc.edu...]

408 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:00pm

Welcome to all the new hatchlings...ya'll be good or Charles will sic Stinky on ya!

409 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:14pm

re: #352 gdonovan

I made it after 2 years!

Yay!

I wonder if the Dissident Frogman has ever managed to register: he complained on his site that Charles never has registration open when he's actually awake.

Maybe Charles coulds send him an email...

410 lemonpie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:33pm

re: #347 Charles

411 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:35pm

re: #374 cathypop

re: #362 Walter L. Newton

What's Boulder South? Alot of illegals?

Worst, liberals.

Golden is 18 miles south of Boulder Colorado, otherwise know as the People's Republic of Boulder. Up to recently, Golden has been a very conservative enclave in the middle of a lot of moonbatism.

But over the last 4-6 years, the liberal creep has slowly taken over here.

412 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:37pm

re: #385 WayDownSouthInBama

I think it's very sad that the REPUBLICANS have sunk so low that I think Hillary isn't as bad a choice as some in our own party would have been. It's time to fumigate the Republican party with a heavy dose of "RINO-Be-Gone".

Yes, and then we might win the next election!

413 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:37pm

re: #372 Russkilitlover

Dark chocolate is a health food. Really.

Makes me break out in smiles.

414 nyc redneck  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:44pm

re: #287 reine.de.tout

Someone said upthread they thought Monica thought Bill would leave hilary and marry her. I think Monica was very much enamored of Bill. I wonder how she felt when he referred to her as "... THAT woman".

Talk about a misogynist

she was crushed. absolutely devastated.
i hope she learned something.

415 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:14:48pm

Question for the hatchlings that have lurked for ages:

When you don't have an account, do you read the comments, realtime, hitting the "new comments" button over and over?

Do you even read the comments?

416 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:15:07pm

re: #396 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Eening all! Not to go off topic (but this is sorta an open tread)
I was crusing Fox and found a nominee for Idiot of the Year award...

Dumb Ass of the Year

Dumbass of the Year indeed!
How can anyone not know of these scams by now?

417 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:15:14pm

re: #399 gmsc

It depends on whether you consider the President or Vice-President as 1st in the line of succession.

Succession means follow....Presidential Line of Succession means who follows the current President.

And a change of Presidents due to an election is not part of the line of succession. ;)

418 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:15:29pm

re: #124 Walter L. Newton

What is wrong with feta? One of the tastiest cheeses in the world.

And to cover goat feta.

We here in NZ have a problem with feral goats. The Billies pong to the high heavens, rolling in the pee to make for a fine "aftershave" (not)

Feta smells of goat, that is just me, sorry.

Oh, and we shoot the goats for target practice, the wild pigs eat the dead goats, we hunt the pigs and eat them.

419 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:15:32pm

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

I think you are right about that.
We need all the good news we can get, especially in the GWOT arena.

420 cathypop  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:15:41pm

Grill is ready and it's time to put the ribeye on. YYYUUMMMM
Goodnight

421 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:16:11pm

re: #416 reine.de.tout

Dumbass of the Year indeed!
How can anyone not know of these scams by now?

I don't know..it makes me shake my head and tisk tisk like my Maw-Maw used to.

422 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:16:16pm

re: #397 angst

So is Shiraz!


I have a friend! Shiraz, Hm hm!

423 Thor-Zone  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:16:28pm

re: #359 Wyatt Earp

Agreed. This choice looks pretty good.

God, I feel so dirty after writing that.


Take heart Wyatt....you did the best you could.....

424 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:16:31pm

re: #380 doppelganglander

In all fairness, it was concealed from her when she was a child. Her parents converted to avoid persecution and she was raised Protestant.

I heard that, too, that it was concealed from her.
But it was pretty amazing, in my opinion, that this became known to her at what seemed to be a convenient time.

425 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:16:43pm

Miami Airport.

Shit.

I can't believe I'm still in Miami Airport...


(actually, so far flight is showing on time, I just wanted to channel a little Apocalypse Now)

426 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:16:46pm

re: #416 reine.de.tout

Dumbass of the Year indeed!
How can anyone not know of these scams by now?

probably thought Obama sent it to her.

427 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:05pm

re: #418 A Kiwi Infidel

And to cover goat feta.

We here in NZ have a problem with feral goats. The Billies pong to the high heavens, rolling in the pee to make for a fine "aftershave" (not)

Feta smells of goat, that is just me, sorry.

Oh, and we shoot the goats for target practice, the wild pigs eat the dead goats, we hunt the pigs and eat them.

Whatever million muslims can't be all wrong about goat smelling good, can they? ;)

428 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:12pm

re: #416 reine.de.tout

Dumbass of the Year indeed!
How can anyone not know of these scams by now?

How did this cretin get $400,000 to waste, anyway? Had to have inherited it.

429 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:12pm

re: #426 bellamags

probably thought Obama sent it to her.


LOL!

430 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:14pm

re: #423 Thor-Zone

Take heart Wyatt....you did the best you could.....

I'll feel better after I douse myself with this can of Lysol. :)

431 bosforus  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:19pm

re: #425 Occasional Reader

Miami Airport.

Shit.

I can't believe I'm still in Miami Airport...


(actually, so far flight is showing on time, I just wanted to channel a little Apocalypse Now)

How'd Argyland treat ya?

432 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:24pm

re: #389 Miss Trixie

ROFL!

Potential Wife #5? Haven't you tortured yourself enough?

:P

Never answered my question. Hey, it could be worth it to some woman. I'm 55 now. Not making the 6 figure salary like before, but the right lady could wind up with my complete portfolio of plays. I make a few bucks a year off of royalties, and let's face it, a lot of writers are worth more dead than alive.

433 Russkilitlover  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:31pm

re: #402 ploome hineni

I would

we need a Sec't of State who is not concerned if people like her enough to elect her President NEXT TIME. The position needs a very sharp statesman

But imagine her throwing ashtrays at Putin!

434 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:47pm
435 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:17:53pm

re: #384 A Kiwi Infidel

Sorry Walter, out to lunch.

Previuos thread, the missing navel

An Alien?

436 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:18:05pm

re: #352 gdonovan

I made it after 2 years!

Welcome Donovan. My exceptional powers of discernment tell me you are either a descendent of County Down or a fan of the 60's crooner Donovan.

437 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:18:10pm

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

Say what you will about Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State (and I'm sure I, for one, will), she has consistently expressed a more serious understanding of the jihadist threat than Obama, Reid, or Pelosi.

She could potentially be extremely effective. Imagine her at any summit meeting. After 2 or 3 days of having to listen to that voice, the other parties will cede to the US position, just to be able to get the hell out of there.

438 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:18:17pm

re: #424 reine.de.tout

I heard that, too, that it was concealed from her.
But it was pretty amazing, in my opinion, that this became known to her at what seemed to be a convenient time.

It is a strech

439 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:18:55pm

re: #430 Wyatt Earp

I'll feel better after I douse myself with this can of Lysol. :)

Gargle too. . .

440 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:02pm

re: #421 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I don't know..it makes me shake my head and tisk tisk like my Maw-Maw used to.

OH, golly. It was bad enough when I started to sound like my parents.

Now I can look forward to sounding like my grandparents?

I'm lost.

441 aquariumly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:10pm

"A cheese may disappoint. It may be dull, it may be naive, it may be oversophisticated. Yet it remains, cheese, milk's leap toward immortality."
- Clifton Fadiman

Hatchling here ready to host the (wine and) cheese tasting!

442 Miranda  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:15pm

re: #324 WrathofG-d

Wooo whooooo I'm finally in. SO happy to be able to finally post with such gifted minds of LGF.

///////////////

You forgot the Sarc tag.

Long time lurker

443 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:18pm

Hope and Change back to the Clinton years, oh yeah!

444 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:23pm

re: #431 bosforus

How'd Argyland treat ya?

It treated me well. And now I'm headed back there. And then to Paraguay. And then back to Argyland. And then to Chile. And then home just in time (hopefully) for The Feast of San Giving.

445 Wishing  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:27pm

re: #312 calcajun

Actually, she is in a spot where she could make it. If the admin falls apart and she jumps ship early, she could try again. Otherwise, by 2016, she is going to be too old.

She may be planning to jump ship early, specifically to run her campaign. Altogether, not a bad idea.

446 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:36pm
447 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:50pm
448 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:19:51pm

re: #432 Walter L. Newton
Gah! I was going to comment but............Shit, Walter ,your a nice guy and I couldn't bring myself.........

449 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:00pm

re: #440 reine.de.tout

OH, golly. It was bad enough when I started to sound like my parents.

Now I can look forward to sounding like my grandparents?

I'm lost.

Soon you will even start looking like them as well. ;)

450 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:03pm

re: #427 FurryOldGuyJeans


They can keep them. They can have all ours as well.

451 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:03pm

re: #425 Occasional Reader

I can't believe I'm still in Miami Airport...

OR your stock just dropped about 50% on the ET scale... What villainous travel agent forced you into Miami Airport?

452 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:18pm

re: #325 cathypop

I never thought anyone could be worse than Albright! Especially after she ran after Arafat!
Oh! And did she not all of a sudden realize she was Jewish?

"catt-pop" -

All Ms. Albright had to do at about age 19 or 20 as an undergraduate was to read some Czech History in translation. As her father was part of the pre-war politics of Czechoslovakia, I suspect she KNEW at that point. That is all for now.

-S-

453 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:25pm

re: #428 angst

How did this cretin get $400,000 to waste, anyway? Had to have inherited it.

It's in the story. Borrowed on her house, car, ran through her hubby's retirement account, all the while her relatives and bank folks were telling her it was a scam. Apparently went on over a period of a few years.

454 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:28pm

re: #398 reloadingisnotahobby

See, it's like this:

I'd be pleased and honored to fetch a pint (imperial, the full 20 oz, of course) for just about any one of my reptilian overlords and betters. I've been watching, enviously, for years as you folk posted away, and me, like the new kid at school, never quite able to get a word in. And so here I am, in with the cool kids at last!

So, yes, Guinness it is; but here's the thing: anybody showing up at my door asking for alcohol is very likely to be disappointed. Folks peddling Girl Scout cookies know not to darken my door, and the scammers and snoopers who come around (looking to see if I want my gutters cleaned, or painted, or whatever it is they think the should say to explain why they were looking at my garage before the rang the doorbell) tend to change their plans pretty quickly when my cold, dead eyes meet theirs at the front door and they realize that they're talking to the guy who could and would earn a second merit badge in shallow grave maintenance just for something to do to answer the insult and outrage of their interrupting me.

And yes, it is Cities of the Underworld.

455 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:42pm
456 bosforus  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:20:45pm

re: #444 Occasional Reader

It treated me well. And now I'm headed back there. And then to Paraguay. And then back to Argyland. And then to Chile. And then home just in time (hopefully) for The Feast of San Giving.

Bring me back some empanadas!

457 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:01pm

re: #403 cathypop

Maybe so but she USED it to her advantage.

That may be, but of all the things to beat up on her about, I stay away from that one because I had a similar experience. I was adopted and the agency did not inform my adoptive parents that my birth father was Jewish. I found out when I was 31 and it really affected me, even though I've never met him. I always had a lot of Jewish friends and I'm pro-Israel, but it feels different since I found that out.

458 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:08pm

re: #418 A Kiwi Infidel

And to cover goat feta.

We here in NZ have a problem with feral goats. The Billies pong to the high heavens, rolling in the pee to make for a fine "aftershave" (not)

Feta smells of goat, that is just me, sorry.

Oh, and we shoot the goats for target practice, the wild pigs eat the dead goats, we hunt the pigs and eat them.

&#9834 &#9836 The Circle of Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife! &#9836 &#9834

459 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:23pm
460 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:31pm

re: #451 experiencedtraveller

OR your stock just dropped about 50% on the ET scale... What villainous travel agent forced you into Miami Airport?

Believe it or not, all things considered it's the best available option for my itinerary.

461 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:31pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

It's in the story. Borrowed on her house, car, ran through her hubby's retirement account, all the while her relatives and bank folks were telling her it was a scam. Apparently went on over a period of a few years.

Oh, then she really is a dumbass!

462 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:32pm
463 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:53pm

re: #452 Dr. Shalit

"catt-pop" -

All Ms. Albright had to do at about age 19 or 20 as an undergraduate was to read some Czech History in translation. As her father was part of the pre-war politics of Czechoslovakia, I suspect she KNEW at that point. That is all for now.

-S-

And add too that AFTER finding out about the persecutions felt by her family at the hands of facists. . .she vowed to stay "fair to all" meaning terrorists, natch!

464 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:21:59pm

Open reg, huh? Who wants to bet $10 Cognito registered a sock puppet?

465 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:01pm

re: #441 aquariumly
Got some Ripple?

466 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:06pm

re: #435 callahan23

An Alien?

Ok, saw the pics. I don't give a shit about the navel. Nope, can't see myself laying there naked with her going "Wait, can't do this, your navel is missing. Maybe in another time, place, galaxy, this would be alright. I hope you understand."

467 gmsc  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:22pm

Will the Liberals Leave Us Free Speech?

Peggy Noonan writes in "The Wall Street Journal":

"It is a question what exact impact the conservative infrastructure, and the great number of conservative thinkers and intellectuals, will have on a GOP comeback. The party has never attempted to reform and renew itself with so many national leaders, not only in the House and the Senate but on the airwaves, and in busy dispute in the magazines, and on heavily visited Web sites. This is going to be interesting to see, and only in part because we've never seen it before."

Interesting point. Only I would put it this way: It's not the GOP or "conservatism" that can or should be renewed or reformed. Conservatism, under George W. Bush, was nothing more than a collection of vague pro-freedom attitudes and "me too," watered-down left liberalism. What's needed is the formation, not the restoration, of a political movement in favor of individual rights, a Constitutional republic, and limited government.

Noonan has an important point, however. There is a pretty strong "non-Obama" or "non-left" intellectual infrastructure out there. The last time the Republicans were totally out -- in the 1930s and 1960s, as well as during Jimmy Carter's term -- there was no such intellectual infrastructure. Today, there is.

That's why the preservation of free speech is so important. Left liberalism is more irrational and emotional than it ever was before. It's not just that their policies are mistaken; their attitudes are intolerant and perpetually angry. Democrats, at the core, are the party of nihilistic rage hell-bent on revenge and destruction for its own sake. They feel justified in whatever it takes to do whatever they want to do with their power. I'm not saying that everyone who voted for Obama is like this. But the dedicated core of the Democratic Party -- those who form the angry liberal left -- are like that. Usually these people lose elections, but this time they won big. This creates a danger, first and foremost, for conservative talk radio as well as for non-left thinking to be found on the Internet, on satellite radio, and on cable television. It’s not just Rush Limbaugh in danger here. It’s anyone who disagrees with or objects to hard-left liberalism as practiced by Obama and his cohorts in Congress.

If non-left liberals can join together and prevent ANY restrictions on the freedom of speech in the coming four years, they will have done a lot -- not only for the long-term, but also for their shorter-term political interests. Just think of it. America is about to experience four years of unchecked liberal-left rule: Government health care; job-killing tax increases; government takeover of private pensions; further government takeovers of the auto and banking industries; government restrictions on talk radio, the Internet, and who knows what else. Is it really shrill and inaccurate to call this socialism? The consequences won't be pretty. And so long as Americans have a forum for talking about and criticizing these policies, there's hope for a radical new direction in the not-too-distant future.

468 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:24pm

re: #440 reine.de.tout

OH, golly. It was bad enough when I started to sound like my parents.

Now I can look forward to sounding like my grandparents?

I'm lost.


I only picked up two traits from Maw-Maw...the tisk tisk and sometimes I flick my finger nail against the side of my kids heads (gently) when they do something remarkably stupid.

469 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:31pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

Get down on one knee, give out with some jazz hands, and sing, "I'd walk a million miles for one of your smiles, Miaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaami!"

Do it now.

Racist!

/

470 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:37pm

re: #454 Guanxi88

Folks peddling Girl Scout cookies know not to darken my door, and the scammers and snoopers who come around (looking to see if I want my gutters cleaned, or painted, or whatever it is they think the should say to explain why they were looking at my garage before the rang the doorbell) tend to change their plans pretty quickly when my cold, dead eyes meet theirs at the front door and they realize that they're talking to the guy who could and would earn a second merit badge in shallow grave maintenance

Little Girl Scouts?

Dude, buy the cookies.

471 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:41pm

re: #458 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ The Circle of Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife! ♬ ♪


Sure is, and its a bitch when you are at the bottom of the food chain.

472 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:22:57pm

Good thing about Miami Airport; lots of Latina hotties.

473 aquariumly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:23:15pm

re: #415 Silhouette

Question for the hatchlings that have lurked for ages:

When you don't have an account, do you read the comments, realtime, hitting the "new comments" button over and over?

Do you even read the comments?

I read as many as I had time for, but the longing for an opportunity to reply was too great to punish myself with a constant reminder of what I did not have....

474 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:23:33pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

It's in the story. Borrowed on her house, car, ran through her hubby's retirement account, all the while her relatives and bank folks were telling her it was a scam. Apparently went on over a period of a few years.


I wonder if the hubby is going to divorce the ditz.

475 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:23:39pm

re: #464 Noam Sayin'

Open reg, huh? Who wants to bet $10 Cognito registered a sock puppet?

Somebody did.

Nic of LeBron but they were gone before we were told whose sockpuppet.

476 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:23:41pm
477 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:23:51pm
478 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:23:53pm

re: #424 reine.de.tout

I heard that, too, that it was concealed from her.
But it was pretty amazing, in my opinion, that this became known to her at what seemed to be a convenient time.

Maybe. Or maybe she'd known a while and chose that moment to share it, which I'll admit is pretty cynical.

479 lemonpie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:01pm

re: #378 cathypop
thanks--I lost my job and knew something would good would come of me having all this time on my hands

480 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:02pm

re: #454 Guanxi88
LOL! That was a great response!
I've got the next round!
LOL

481 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:13pm

Welcome new Lizards...

482 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:21pm

re: #459 FurryOldGuyJeans

I've been having major linking trouble today. THANK YOU.

483 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:29pm

re: #477 ploome hineni

wha chew wan Latina fo?

I'm just window-shopping. No harm to it.

484 Occasional Reader  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:45pm

Off for now...

485 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:49pm
486 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:24:59pm

re: #470 Silhouette

Whaddaya want from me? Look, I've got two jobs, three kids, and a pervasive personality disorder; it's all I can do to open the door with cursing.

Besides, the better half usually already has us well-stocked when it comes to that stuff. Thin mints, my friend, thin mints

487 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:00pm

re: #475 Silhouette

We had a newbie get the stick already?

488 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:05pm
489 Brit in Japan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:06pm

re: #347 Charles

Shutting off registration now - might turn it back on a bit later.

Thank you for the opportunity to post here. I must say I admire your courage: there are some very bad and deranged people in the world you have set yourself against.

Thanks to the lizards for the welcomes - and ploome even thought he/she knew me for a minute there!

I have a question. I understand the function of the phrase, but what does "PIMF" actually stand for? It's been driving me crazy!


K.

490 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:18pm

re: #478 doppelganglander

Maybe. Or maybe she'd known a while and chose that moment to share it, which I'll admit is pretty cynical.

Her STEP grandfather was Jewish, that is it.

491 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:31pm

Gonna get ready for my girlfriend, going out to Chinese. Be back in a bit.

492 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:39pm
493 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:52pm

re: #485 ploome hineni


did they bring us anything?

They better have, or they will be eaten.

494 angst  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:25:59pm

re: #435 callahan23

An Alien?

People born with gastroschesis sometimes don't end up with bellybuttons because there's an opening in their abdominal wall at birth. Their intestines are on the outside, just floating around.

She looks a lot better now!

495 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:00pm

re: #449 FurryOldGuyJeans

Soon you will even start looking like them as well. ;)

NEVER.
I will resist with my entire being.

496 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:02pm

re: #491 Walter L. Newton

Gonna get ready for my girlfriend, going out to Chinese. Be back in a bit.

Have fun:)

497 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:06pm

re: #475 Silhouette

Somebody did.

Nic of LeBron but they were gone before we were told whose sockpuppet.

*ahem*

re: #189 Charles

Former name: JSK1121. Banned for assassination joke-comment.

498 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:09pm

re: #489 Brit in Japan

preview is my friend!

499 Miranda  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:16pm

re: #464 Noam Sayin'

That would be a sucker bet. It is here (and didn't need a registration window) just waiting for the opportunity to stink up the place again.

500 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:25pm

re: #490 DisturbedEma

Her STEP grandfather was Jewish, that is it.

Isn't it from the female line that one is Jewish?

501 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:32pm

re: #447 ploome hineni

How should Japan and the United States, two major sea powers, deal with maritime issues that have become increasingly complex? A symposium titled the Japan-U.S. Sea Power Dialogue was held earlier this month in Washington to discuss the current situation and maritime security issues.

keep it simple stupid

pirate come at you on open seas.....blast them to hell

Imagine what a Vulcan Phalanx could do...

I'd guess that 4,500 rounds per minute of 20mm would basically vaporize the bastards.

502 lemonpie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:35pm

re: #415 Silhouette

No! I never read the comments in real time. But, I absolutely read the comments. We "hatchlings" would have to be somewhat or more than somewhat braindead to want to hop on the LGF comment-go-round and not have read any of the comments.

503 yesandno  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:40pm

re: #441 aquariumly

"A cheese may disappoint. It may be dull, it may be naive, it may be oversophisticated. Yet it remains, cheese, milk's leap toward immortality."
- Clifton Fadiman

Hatchling here ready to host the (wine and) cheese tasting!

We will have no wine before its time

Nor whine either......

/ sorta Paul Masson
Welcome to the vineyard.

504 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:42pm

re: #476 WrathofG-d

More Peace & Love From Berkeley

"Bad Request" again.

Drop the http:// at the end of your link before you post your comment, Wrath.

505 Thor-Zone  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:26:43pm

Well...gotta get back to work....See ya all later.

506 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:08pm

re: #490 DisturbedEma

Her STEP grandfather was Jewish, that is it.

You're talking about Hillary. I was talking about Madeleine Albright. Sorry about the confusion.

508 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:19pm
509 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:26pm

re: #504 FurryOldGuyJeans

I see what my mistake is. I fixed it above however.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

510 mensamann  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:30pm

re: #454 Guanxi88

Well! I like the cut of your jib!

511 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:38pm

re: #487 Noam Sayin'

We had a newbie get the stick already?

See #131 and Charles #144. Click LeBron's football.

You are now up-to-date.

512 welshgirl  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:40pm

that link doesn't work
re: #476 WrathofG-d

513 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:41pm

re: #500 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Isn't it from the female line that one is Jewish?

Yes, he was not her blood relative- and mother grandmother. . .

514 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:42pm

re: #132 angst

Any of you people stay up late enough to watch Craig Ferguson? He's a great naturalized citizen, and I think he's the one who coined the phrase "naughty librarian" to describe Sarah Palin's look when she sent him a video making him an honorary citizen of Alaska.

Anyway, he was very sad to report that naturalized citizens vote less frequently than native-borns, which surprised me, too. Here's his rant on voting, and also the media:

If You Don't Vote You're a Moron.

I love this guy.

Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore your post but I got caught up in the information I needed to impress my friend. I agree, Craig, a Brit, is someone who values his citizenship un-like Soros. Some people take US citizenship seriously and embrace it and others say "whatever". Craig is the former and Soros is the latter. Some American born citizens place an even lower value on citizenship than Soros. Methinks the video from Craig that you posted addresses that point. Thanks.

515 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:27:42pm

re: #464 Noam Sayin'

Open reg, huh? Who wants to bet $10 Cognito registered a sock puppet?

Boy oh boy - the MSM sure is idiotic.

516 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:28:12pm

re: #385 WayDownSouthInBama

I think it's very sad that the REPUBLICANS have sunk so low that I think Hillary isn't as bad a choice as some in our own party would have been. It's time to fumigate the Republican party with a heavy dose of "RINO-Be-Gone".

"Bama" -

Hillary or Kerry - Make your choice. Hillary is a mercenary opportunist. Kerry has a "Blame America" bias that just won't quit. LOUSY CHOICE to be sure.
In this one - Give Me the Girl. -S-

517 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:28:23pm

re: #515 debutaunt

Boy oh boy - the MSM sure is idiotic.


Cognito was MSM?

518 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:28:28pm

re: #506 doppelganglander

You're talking about Hillary. I was talking about Madeleine Albright. Sorry about the confusion.

No problem- Albright made me even madder. . .

519 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:28:31pm

re: #501 Spiny Norman

Imagine what a Vulcan Phalanx could do...

I'd guess that 4,500 rounds per minute of 20mm would basically vaporize the bastards.

CIWS... short for "Christ, it won't shoot!"

Besides, a Klingon Phalanx would be far better than a Vulcan Phalanx... every Trekkie knows that.

520 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:28:49pm

re: #497 Fat Jolly Penguin

*ahem*

Missed that!

I guess I shouldn't be giving updates then.

521 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:10pm

Hello hon.

re: #308 HoosierHoops

You have got the cutest legs I've ever seen...

*blush*

Courtesy of that scoundrel realwest, no doubt. :P

522 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:11pm

re: #515 debutaunt

Boy oh boy - the MSM sure is idiotic.

And horribly biased too.

/otingoC bait

523 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:15pm

re: #464 Noam Sayin'

Open reg, huh? Who wants to bet $10 Cognito registered a sock puppet?


otingoc

524 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:23pm
525 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:46pm

Mark Levin is going OFF on a dude regarding DDT. DAMN.

526 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:50pm

re: #517 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Cognito was MSM?

So Cog stated . . .with no support for that claim to my knowledge. . .

527 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:58pm

re: #482 WrathofG-d

I've been having major linking trouble today. THANK YOU.

When you use the link button, and the edit box pops up, leave the http:// already there highlighted so it get "overwritten" with your link URL. I just use the paste command (CTRL+V) to insert it. Only works for a Windows machine, though, have no clue how to do it with a Mac or Unix box.

528 Brit in Japan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:29:58pm

re: #498 bellamags

preview is my friend!

Of course it is. Thanks!

K.

529 Throbert McGee  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:30:10pm

re: #144 Charles

Here come the sockpuppets.

Charles, do you have an approximate sense of how many hatchlings in an average registration period are true newcomers, how many are alternics for existing users, and how many are sockpuppets for existing users up to no good? (I'm using "alternic" to mean "a sockpuppet created without any sneaky or malicious intent.")

530 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:30:12pm

re: #525 bellamags

Mark Levin is going OFF on a dude regarding DDT. DAMN.

I hope Levin is PRO DDT use?

531 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:30:14pm

re: #475 Silhouette

Somebody did.

Nic of LeBron but they were gone before we were told whose sockpuppet.

Charles told us. JSK something something something or other

532 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:30:17pm

re: #483 Occasional Reader

I'm just window-shopping. No harm to it.

Proceed 6 miles due east. South beach. Report.

533 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:30:29pm

re: #524 buzzsawmonkey

Any news on the Franken/Coleman count?

They said it was going to take a month.

534 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:15pm
535 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:17pm

re: #533 bellamags

They said it was going to take a month.

They promise not to stop until they "find" enough Franken votes.

536 Rancher  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:24pm

30 lousy minutes. Rustler will never get registered.

537 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:39pm

re: #396 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Eening all! Not to go off topic (but this is sorta an open tread)
I was crusing Fox and found a nominee for Idiot of the Year award...

Dumb Ass of the Year

Just where did you think the 0's support came from? HUH?

538 Miranda  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:44pm

re: #489 Brit in Japan

(P)review
(I)s
(M)y
(F)riend

539 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:53pm

re: #535 Silhouette

They promise not to stop until they "find" enough Franken votes.


God, can you imagine that asshole in the Senate?

540 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:55pm

re: #517 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Cognito was MSM?

Just a staunch defender.

541 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:31:57pm

re: #530 Silhouette

I hope Levin is PRO DDT use?

yes. he told the guy (who was against it) that he had blood on his hands because millions of third world people have died because of malaria.

542 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:32:07pm

re: #517 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Cognito was MSM?

That was the running gag....at least I hope it was a sarcastic gag. He was knee-jerk defending the MSM no matter what poop they flung.

543 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:32:31pm
544 itellu3times  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:32:39pm

re: #44 doppelganglander

No, thanks, but some pistachios would be welcome.

California "freedom pistachios".

545 woodstockwillie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:32:41pm

Wow! One of 53!

546 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:32:47pm

re: #489 Brit in Japan

Hey Brit. Are you in Japan now?

547 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:33:09pm

re: #502 lemonpie

No! I never read the comments in real time. But, I absolutely read the comments. We "hatchlings" would have to be somewhat or more than somewhat braindead to want to hop on the LGF comment-go-round and not have read any of the comments.

I used to read the comments and think, "I have something to say about that!"

Finally got registered and I immediately went completely brain-dead.

Didn't do much of anything for quite some time.

548 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:33:17pm

And I know I've been remiss in greeting our new hatchlings. I'm thinking, instead of a drink, cheese is the new form of tribute.

549 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:33:20pm

re: #536 Rancher

30 lousy minutes. Rustler will never get registered.

Everything starts moving fast when they scamper out of their eggs. Eventually, Rustler will get his.

550 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:33:21pm

re: #543 buzzsawmonkey

He would not be the first; he would not be the last.


I know, but he'd be the biggest. He has the potential to out asshole Harry Reid.

551 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:33:58pm

re: #535 Silhouette

They promise not to stop until they "find" enough Franken votes.

I am so pissed about this whole circus. WTF is the effing problem? Count the effing ballots that you effing have and come up with the effing winner. damn.

552 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:34:04pm

Hey, ya'll, this thread is moving too fast. I'm trying to catch up but the quicker I go, the behinder I get.

553 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:34:14pm

re: #545 woodstockwillie

Wow! One of 53!


Woodstock!

554 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:34:21pm

re: #541 bellamags

Arsenic and DDT are two of my pet issues. Lots of misconceptions.

555 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:34:26pm

re: #550 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I know, but he'd be the biggest. He has the potential to out asshole Harry Reid.

Damn, Barney Frank must be in love again.

556 Racer X  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:34:39pm

PIFW

557 kcladderman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:34:52pm

re: #526 DisturbedEma

So Cog stated . . .with no support for that claim to my knowledge. . .

He had a paper route
/

558 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:35:06pm

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

Ok, saw the pics. I don't give a shit about the navel. Nope, can't see myself laying there naked with her going "Wait, can't do this, your navel is missing. Maybe in another time, place, galaxy, this would be alright. I hope you understand."

Thinkin'........you are right. OK but generally not my type.
This is hot stuff to me.

559 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:35:10pm

re: #556 Racer X

preview is for wussies?

560 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:35:15pm

re: #535 Silhouette

They promise not to stop until they "find" enough Franken votes.

It worked for Gov. Gregoire here in Washington State in 2004.

561 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:35:15pm

re: #555 FurryOldGuyJeans

Damn, Barney Frank must be in love again.

Brain bleach! Pass the brain bleach!

562 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:35:48pm

Evening all, welcome new hatchlings.

Might be interesting to watch O'Reilly tonight, rumor is he hates Mark Cuban

563 bosforus  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:35:57pm

re: #547 reine.de.tout

I used to read the comments and think, "I have something to say about that!"

Finally got registered and I immediately went completely brain-dead.

Didn't do much of anything for quite some time.

I didn't read the comments much before I registered and when I finally did register it took about 2 months before I recognized anybody's name. I think Mandy was the first name where I thought, "hey, I've seen that name before". Bulwrk was posting a lot at that time also.

564 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:35:58pm
565 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:36:04pm

www.israelnationalnews.com...] target="_blank">

Local ZFA member Yehuda told Israel National News: "Several other members of SJP, including female students, attempted to attack Weiner and De Sa but when three more ZFA activists entered the scene, the male members of SJP – who regularly use physical intimidation to silence Zionist students – hid behind female members of their group and refused to step forward and fight."

The local student press published the SJP version of events on Friday but would not quote any of the ZFA activists interviewed following the incident.

...

Meanwhile, the anti-Israel group is planning to file a petition to remove pro-Israel Student Senator John Moghtader from office, who tried to break up the fight.

Israel National News spoke with ZFA director Yehuda HaKohen, who said that although he had initially discouraged his activists from responding to the flags and would have preferred to have avoided the conflict altogether, he believed that ZFA’s victory in the physical altercation will show the anti-Israel activists that some Jews cannot be intimidated.

...

“In many ways it felt very similar to how things go down in Israel. Arabs attack Jews and then hide behind women. When Jews take defensive action, a biased media paints us as aggressors. The fact that our students at Berkeley had to experience this gives them a better appreciation for some of the challenges confronting us in our own country. Even though I wanted to avoid the altercation, I recognize the value in anti-Israel activists getting put in their place by the very students they so often try to bully into silence.”

..(read it all)...

566 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:36:06pm
567 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:36:22pm
568 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:36:36pm

re: #529 Throbert McGee

Your name came up today in connection with TNR and Scott Beauchamp on this thread. If you'd like to clarify what really happened, several of us would appreciate it. We don't want to misrepresent your experience. And if you don't want to go there, that's cool too.

569 lookout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:36:41pm

The quote from RLS brings back some fond memories. I never liked breakfast growing up, so my mom was always trying to find out something I would eat before going to school. The solution was taking a half-hamburger bun topped with a slice of Kraft cheese, toasted in the oven (this was before counter top toaster ovens). She would heat the cheese-toast until the cheese was just brown and bubbly on top. If you haven't enjoyed "toasted" cheese, treat yourself.

570 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:36:43pm

re: #547 reine.de.tout

I used to read the comments and think, "I have something to say about that!"

Finally got registered and I immediately went completely brain-dead.

Didn't do much of anything for quite some time.

I went into a total panic and spelled lizard with two z's.

571 Racer X  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:36:52pm

re: #559 bellamags

preview is for wussies?

Haha.

Or wimps.

572 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:37:03pm

re: #560 FurryOldGuyJeans

It worked for Gov. Gregoire here in Washington State in 2004.

And almost for Gore in Florida. The Republicans in the recount room had lots of stories of the Dems doing anything, flicking the ballots, bending them, to get the chad to fall out for Gore. After every count, there were more Gore votes and all these chads all over the floor.

574 HDrepub  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:37:39pm

re: #483 Occasional Reader

I'm just window-shopping. No harm to it.

When one is on a diet, that doesn't mean you can't look at the menu.

575 debutaunt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:37:52pm

re: #557 kcladderman

ahhahahahaahahahahaa

576 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:37:53pm

re: #566 buzzsawmonkey

I think that he will, first, be enough of a gasbag to alienate even his putative allies, and that he will also be disappointed when he finds out in real time that being a Senator

involves work

other than standing up and making speeches.


Whaaaa? You mean they actually work?

577 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:38:02pm

re: #516 Dr. Shalit

Yes,I know you are right. I guess the bright side is that at least with Hillary we shouldn't have to wait on a global test before acting should we? On the other hand,if she can't keep up with Sec. of State paperwork any better than she did the Rose Law Firm paperwork...

578 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:38:24pm
579 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:39:01pm

re: #572 Silhouette

But, seriously, I mean, Al Franken's just pulling our collective leg, right? It's some sort of a joke, isn't it? I mean, Al Franken, right?

580 heyou  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:39:04pm

re: 314 wrench wrench - six thousand one million five billion two milliseconds-above and below the space and time continuum-yeah groovy space lizard am I :-)

581 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:39:07pm
582 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:39:09pm

re: #529 Throbert McGee

Charles, do you have an approximate sense of how many hatchlings in an average registration period are true newcomers, how many are alternics for existing users, and how many are sockpuppets for existing users up to no good? (I'm using "alternic" to mean "a sockpuppet created without any sneaky or malicious intent.")

I've been tempted to register a "froll" from time to time (whatever happened to our favorite Muslima, Aisha?), but Charles doesn't allow freebie email accounts anymore, and I don't want to use my business email.

By the way, we were discussing your unpleasant experience as a "whistle-blower" at the New Republic earlier today. Were your ears burning?

;^)

583 gdonovan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:39:35pm

re: #368 reine.de.tout

after 2 years of what?

Missing the open periods to sign up!

584 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:39:44pm

re: #572 Silhouette

And almost for Gore in Florida. The Republicans in the recount room had lots of stories of the Dems doing anything, flicking the ballots, bending them, to get the chad to fall out for Gore. After every count, there were more Gore votes and all these chads all over the floor.

The difference is that there was an active search to FIND new ballots in 2004, not just "correct" "erroneous" ballots as what happened in 2000.

585 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:39:44pm

re: #579 Guanxi88

But, seriously, I mean, Al Franken's just pulling our collective leg, right? It's some sort of a joke, isn't it? I mean, Al Franken, right?

I know I know I know --- what is wrong with these people that voted for that tool?

586 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:40:30pm

re: #578 ploome hineni

first few months I was here, all I did as google to find reference to other people's posts

I was too scared to have an opinion

I was google queen

You have an opinion now? ;)

587 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:41:03pm
588 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:41:24pm

re: #585 bellamags

I know I know I know --- what is wrong with these people that voted for that tool?

Same question, Obama.

589 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:41:24pm

Man Loses 140 Pounds to Join Marines

Nope, it's not Lance Kates.

590 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:41:40pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

I must confess, though, that my image of Al Franken in the Senate is that of a guy wearing slap shoes, a squirt boutonniere, and a red rubber nose that lights up and honks.


Or even worse, didn't he do Stuart Smalley?

591 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:41:56pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

I must confess, though, that my image of Al Franken in the Senate is that of a guy wearing slap shoes, a squirt boutonniere, and a red rubber nose that lights up and honks.

oh buzz. its because of you i laugh my a** off each day.

592 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:41:57pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

I must confess, though, that my image of Al Franken in the Senate is that of a guy wearing slap shoes, a squirt boutonniere, and a red rubber nose that lights up and honks.

I've seen it.

593 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:41:58pm
594 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:42:15pm
595 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:42:37pm

re: #588 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same question, Obama.

Same question, same frikin people.

596 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:42:37pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

I must confess, though, that my image of Al Franken in the Senate is that of a guy wearing slap shoes, a squirt boutonniere, and a red rubber nose that lights up and honks.

You just described most of Congress....he'd fit right in.

597 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:42:50pm
598 irongrampa  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:43:01pm

re: #415 Silhouette

I lurked for years before registering. For the longest time I was intimidated by the level of discourse here--still am, to a lesser degree.

599 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:43:54pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

To me, he'll always be Ramnad Zippibahd (spelling?) in that saffron robe.

600 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:43:59pm

re: #593 buzzsawmonkey

Who?

Stuart Smalley = Al Franken

601 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:44:33pm

re: #547 reine.de.tout

I used to read the comments and think, "I have something to say about that!"

Finally got registered and I immediately went completely brain-dead.

Didn't do much of anything for quite some time.

And we still luvs yez anyway. Reminds me of the poster "opnion" who was so happy to be finally registered. I was curious about his nic and suggested that perhaps it was an accidental typo: here opnion was, at the keyboard, blood racing and fingers trembling at the thought of an open registration and dying to get in under the wire and goes and mispells "opinion".

Got a great big giggle out of that mental image. :D

And opnion was very gracious at my silly poke in the ribs. :D

602 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:44:34pm

re: #598 irongrampa

I lurked for years before registering. For the longest time I was intimidated by the level of discourse here--still am, to a lesser degree.

When we want your opinion we'll beat it out of ya! ;)

////// Seriously, no need to be intimidated :)

603 Bloody Barry  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:44:45pm

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey

That's an image of Barney Frank as well, perhaps many more politicians, so long as we consider the Republic a tiny automobile.

604 Rancher  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:45:06pm

re: #549 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I saw above that Charles might turn it back on in a bit. I'll keep watch.

605 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:45:28pm
606 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:45:50pm

re: #601 Miss Trixie

And we still luvs yez anyway. Reminds me of the poster "opnion" who was so happy to be finally registered. I was curious about his nic and suggested that perhaps it was an accidental typo: here opnion was, at the keyboard, blood racing and fingers trembling at the thought of an open registration and dying to get in under the wire and goes and mispells "opinion".

Got a great big giggle out of that mental image. :D

And opnion was very gracious at my silly poke in the ribs. :D

Aw. *sedate southern blush*

607 Throbert McGee  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:46:29pm

Following up on my #529: I'm just curious because I thought of another alternic that I want to register sometime in the future for occasional use -- but it'll be under my own email address, as "Rugby the Rat" is, for purposes of transparency. (I.e., so there's not even an appearance of deception.)

608 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:46:41pm

re: #605 buzzsawmonkey

The Constitution is not a clown car.

But the Left says it is a living document.

609 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:46:52pm

re: #589 doppelganglander

Man Loses 140 Pounds to Join Marines

Nope, it's not Lance Kates.

You owe me a new monitor!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

610 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:47:04pm

re: #601 Miss Trixie

So is his nic supposed to be opinion? or does he have it correct?

611 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:47:06pm

Via Hot Air:

Guardian: Hillary says yes

Hillary Clinton plans to accept the job of secretary of state offered by Barack Obama, who is reaching out to former rivals to build a broad coalition administration, the Guardian has learned…
Clinton would be well placed to become the country’s dominant voice in foreign affairs, replacing Condoleezza Rice. Since being elected senator for New York, she has specialised in foreign affairs and defence. Although she supported the war in Iraq, she and Obama basically agree on a withdrawal of American troops.
Clinton, who still harbours hopes of a future presidential run, had to weigh up whether she would be better placed by staying in the Senate, which offers a platform for life, or making the more uncertain career move to the secretary of state job.

Check out the video of Christopher Hitchens going off about it!

612 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:47:16pm

re: #584 FurryOldGuyJeans

The difference is that there was an active search to FIND new ballots in 2004, not just "correct" "erroneous" ballots as what happened in 2000.

There was Irving Slosberg, a Democrat that won a seat to the Florida house in that same hotly recounted 2000 election, who was found to have a voting machine in his back seat.

SKULDUGGERY is suspected in Palm Beach County after the confiscation of a ballot-punching machine from a senior Democrat.

The discovery of the Votamatic machine in the possession of Irving Slosberg, who was last week elected to Florida's state legislature in an extremely tight race, has intensified the slanging match between local Republicans and Democrats. Al Gore is hoping that a manual recount of punched ballots in the county will carry him to the Presidency.

The Votamatic is used on some ballot boxes to punch holes in ballot cards. Those ballot cards are now the subject of national dispute, because many Palm Beach County voters failed to punch them properly. Police found the machine in 53-year-old Mr Slosberg's car after he had denied to county officials that he had it.

But I'm sure we can trust that he did not use it to create multiple fake ballots for himself or other Dems.

613 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:47:39pm

re: #605 buzzsawmonkey

The Constitution is not a clown car.

No, but a whole class of politicians just got elected who think that it is a magic bag from whence all manner of beneficence emanate.

614 Bloody Barry  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:48:10pm

re: #605 buzzsawmonkey

This metaphor should recreate The Elephant as a symbol, as anyone whose watched an elephant with a case of blood lust understands that when it grows upset with the status quo, the show's over, the show in this case being Federal Largesse.

615 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:48:19pm

re: #607 Throbert McGee

I miss Rugby. He used to talk to us often.

616 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:48:50pm

re: #613 rawmuse

No, but a whole class of politicians just got elected who think that it is a magic bag from whence all manner of beneficence emanate.

Whaaaat!?! You mean not unicorns?!? *WAAAAH*

617 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:49:14pm

re: #598 irongrampa

I lurked for years before registering. For the longest time I was intimidated by the level of discourse here--still am, to a lesser degree.

That's what I love about it. I learn a lot, and I'm forced to be very sharp if I choose to participate. If I'm wrong, I get my ass handed to me, but everyone is quick to forgive if you admit you were mistaken. I wish the rest of life were like LGF. IRL, people just look at you funny if you use big words or like obscure things.

618 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:49:30pm
619 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:49:33pm

re: #615 Silhouette

I miss Rugby. He used to talk to us often.

Rugby's ghost appears from time to time.

;^)

620 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:49:42pm

re: #610 bellamags

So is his nic supposed to be opinion? or does he have it correct?

It's opnion - too late now to change unless Charles changes it for him. It was really funny. :D

621 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:15pm

re: #617 doppelganglander

That's what I love about it. I learn a lot, and I'm forced to be very sharp if I choose to participate. If I'm wrong, I get my ass handed to me, but everyone is quick to forgive if you admit you were mistaken. I wish the rest of life were like LGF. IRL, people just look at you funny if you use big words or like obscure things.

I don't care if people find big words or obscure things "funny". I just find those that like 'em.

622 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:22pm

Well, my girlfriend just called and she decided she wanted to eat Chinese in instead of dining out. Heck, and I just took a shower to clean up a bit. What a waste of water.
/

623 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:25pm

re: #620 Miss Trixie

It's opnion - too late now to change unless Charles changes it for him. It was really funny. :D

No "preview" in the registration form...

624 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:29pm

re: #607 Throbert McGee

Following up on my #529: I'm just curious because I thought of another alternic that I want to register sometime in the future for occasional use -- but it'll be under my own email address, as "Rugby the Rat" is, for purposes of transparency. (I.e., so there's not even an appearance of deception.)

I remember Rugby. He's sort of the anti-lolcat.

625 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:33pm

Did somebody say Al Franken?

626 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:34pm

re: #602 FurryOldGuyJeans

When we want your opinion we'll beat it out of ya! ;)

////// Seriously, no need to be intimidated :)

Not only that but the beatings will continue until your morale improves.

Seriously,LGF is a treasure trove of knowledge coupled with wit. Heck,if an old redneck from Bama like me isn't intimidated,you shouldn't be either.

627 sngnsgt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:46pm

re: #115 Silhouette

LOL!

628 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:50:59pm

re: #454 Guanxi88

And so here I am, in with the cool kids at last!

And where are these "cool" kids of which you speak?

Someone please, make a LOTR reference and balance my world.

I'm with the nerds.

629 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:51:06pm

re: #611 loppyd

Via Hot Air:

Guardian: Hillary says yes

Check out the video of Christopher Hitchens going off about it!

Hitch did some good again to me with that opinion.

630 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:51:25pm
631 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:51:30pm

re: #625 FrogMarch

Did somebody say Al Franken?

*BAAAAAAAARF*

632 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:51:39pm
633 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:51:41pm

re: #620 Miss Trixie

It's opnion - too late now to change unless Charles changes it for him. It was really funny. :D

You know it actually took a few times of me looking closely to realize it was not opinion but opnion. no biggie.

634 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:51:56pm

re: #623 Spiny Norman

No "preview" in the registration form...

Charles was gracious enough to change my nic. It went from Wrathofg-d, to WrathofG-d

635 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:52:17pm

re: #628 IslandLibertarian

And so here I am, in with the cool kids at last!

And where are these "cool" kids of which you speak?

Someone please, make a LOTR reference and balance my world.

I'm with the nerds.

Um, look out Mr. Frodo? ;)

636 formercorpsman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:52:19pm

OT: For what it is worth, when we discussing the Doctor Hseih last night night on the thread, I started to surf with respect to his name.

I clicked on something which appeared to be a blog of his, and his wife (I am assuming) and upon clicking around in the blog, a nice new window opened for me.

It let me know that my system could be infected, etc.

I have been fighting the nastiest little thing called Antivirus pro 2009.

Don't get that one.

637 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:52:44pm

re: #609 Miss Trixie

You owe me a new monitor!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

No problem. I was afraid no one would get it here on the evening crew. It was more of a DDT thing.

638 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:53:35pm

re: #629 callahan23

Hitch did some good again to me with that opinion.

That wasn't Hitch, that actor looked sober.

639 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:53:37pm

re: #636 formercorpsman

Hey! There are NO Off-topics in an open thread! FIE UPON THEE! ;)

640 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:53:38pm

re: #628 IslandLibertarian

Someone please, make a LOTR reference and balance my world.

YOU SHALL NOT PASS!

/Stinky channeling Gandalf

641 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:53:38pm

re: #547 reine.de.tout

reine. I am glad you got over that, i fine lizardette you are.

642 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:54:17pm

re: #633 bellamags

You know it actually took a few times of me looking closely to realize it was not opinion but opnion. no biggie.

looking closely is a completely different poster. ;)

643 3 wood  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:54:18pm

Good evening.

A glance at the early futures numbers show the market still trending down for tomorrow's open.

Not that anybody is keeping track but the DOW is down about 1,400 points since The Messiah got elected, and still dropping.

644 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:54:27pm
645 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:54:34pm

re: #636 formercorpsman

OT: For what it is worth, when we discussing the Doctor Hseih last night night on the thread, I started to surf with respect to his name.

I clicked on something which appeared to be a blog of his, and his wife (I am assuming) and upon clicking around in the blog, a nice new window opened for me.

It let me know that my system could be infected, etc.

I have been fighting the nastiest little thing called Antivirus pro 2009.

Don't get that one.

I had that one while I was using firefox. Drove me nuts.
I've switched to Safari - and magically, it's gone! No more probs. I actually completely uninstalled firefox.

646 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:01pm

re: #629 callahan23

Hitch did some good again to me with that opinion.

I'm stealing his quote that the O's presidency is Clinton Redux.

647 formercorpsman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:04pm

re: #639 FurryOldGuyJeans

I assume it is spyware. It has disabled my Avast, Ad Aware, and is redirecting me.

I have been virus free for at least 4 years.

Nasty, nasty little monster.

648 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:16pm

re: #643 3 wood

Oh, I am keeping track. I am just shrugging it off.
What else can one do?

649 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:22pm

re: #641 yochanan

reine. I am glad you got over that, i fine lizardette you are.

Why, Yoch!
Thank you kindly.

650 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:25pm

re: #611 loppyd

Via Hot Air:

Guardian: Hillary says yes

Check out the video of Christopher Hitchens going off about it!

As soon as Hitch said "this is not change," Matthews throws the interview to the other guest.

651 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:30pm

re: #644 buzzsawmonkey

Gandalf coached hobbit football?

What you think Wizardry is paying the bills these days?

652 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:31pm

re: #623 Spiny Norman

No "preview" in the registration form...

You'll have to forgive me but I always see your nic as "Spicy Norman"

Don't know where that comes from but there it is.

*scratches head*

653 Abu Lahab  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:36pm

There isn't much action in Iraq these days. peacefully sleeping puppy

654 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:43pm

re: #642 doppelganglander

looking closely is a completely different poster. ;)

HA! I thought that as I typed, but I thought I would be the only one who noticed so I didn't say anything. You are very observant : )

655 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:55:57pm

re: #611 loppyd

Via Hot Air:

Guardian: Hillary says yes

Check out the video of Christopher Hitchens going off about it!

Peter Beinart reminds me of the losers (who were wrong) in this video.

656 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:56:13pm

re: #643 3 wood

Good evening.

A glance at the early futures numbers show the market still trending down for tomorrow's open.

Not that anybody is keeping track but the DOW is down about 1,400 points since The Messiah got elected, and still dropping.

But the worshipful media is still blaming Bush and now McCain for it. And now that the automaker bailout is a week-old ice-cream sandwich they are blaming Bush for sabotaging that as well.

657 Spiny Norman[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:56:35pm
658 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:56:36pm

re: #455 ploome hineni

do you ever remember the loser in a presiental election meeting with the winer the first week after the election?

I have been pondering that all weekend. And NO I can not remember that happening before.

659 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:56:36pm

re: #650 Walter L. Newton

As soon as Hitch said "this is not change," Matthews throws the interview to the other guest.

It made his thrill go limp.

660 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:56:49pm

re: #638 Walter L. Newton

That wasn't Hitch, that actor looked sober.

But he does rip them a ne* one. Maybe he can even be brilliant when sober?
/

661 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:56:50pm

re: #647 formercorpsman

I assume it is spyware. It has disabled my Avast, Ad Aware, and is redirecting me.

I have been virus free for at least 4 years.

Nasty, nasty little monster.

See: re: #645 reine.de.tout

662 Dustyvet  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:56:55pm

re: #29 Eowyn2

Is that the newest in conspiracy theories? Mossad Agents responsible for Pearl Harbor. Were they also responsible for Waterloo?

re: #62 fish

Yes. Everyone knows THAT.

I just heard it was really the War Of the Roses....

663 formercorpsman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:57:04pm

re: #645 reine.de.tout

It is not letting me do anything.

Since I am not by any stretch of the imagination, a computer guru, changing browsers would still leave it on your hard drive though.

Correct?

664 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:57:04pm

re: #453 reine.de.tout

It's in the story. Borrowed on her house, car, ran through her hubby's retirement account, all the while her relatives and bank folks were telling her it was a scam. Apparently went on over a period of a few years.

And now, she, too wants a bailout. This woman is a prima facie case for allowing spousal abuse.

I know, there is never any excuse for that, but this comes mighty close. At least heaps of verbal abuse.

665 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:57:23pm

re: #649 reine.de.tout

tips hat in the direction of reine. and smiles

666 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:57:25pm

Weirod.

went to Google maps button in Safari. Went to look at Israel on Google Maps. Noticed that the names of cities in Lebanon and Syria are in Arabic.

Nowhere else on the entire map is any city in its native language.

odd

667 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:57:43pm

re: #644 buzzsawmonkey

Gandalf coached hobbit football?

I was most impressed with his coaching of Doug Flutie.

668 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:57:53pm

re: #654 bellamags

HA! I thought that as I typed, but I thought I would be the only one who noticed so I didn't say anything. You are very observant : )

It's just more proof I have no life.

669 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:58:08pm

So Harry Reid is insisting we bail out the failing union-fucked American auto industry.

what a putz.

670 3 wood  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:58:10pm

You know, I've always been interested in reading about the 1930's

I just never thought I would live through a repeat of them.

Coming soon to a town near you Obamaville's (the 2000's version of Hoovervilles)

671 ciaospirit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:58:22pm

John McCain is starting to make me sicker than he did before. I could spit on this video.

Obama, McCain vow to work together to 'fix up the country'

672 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:58:28pm

re: #658 fish

I have been pondering that all weekend. And NO I can not remember that happening before.

I guess Obama is requiring all to swear fealty to Him and His Rule.

673 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:58:56pm

re: #636 formercorpsman

OT: For what it is worth, when we discussing the Doctor Hseih last night night on the thread, I started to surf with respect to his name.

I clicked on something which appeared to be a blog of his, and his wife (I am assuming) and upon clicking around in the blog, a nice new window opened for me.

It let me know that my system could be infected, etc.

I have been fighting the nastiest little thing called Antivirus pro 2009.

Don't get that one.

do the free online scan here, link at bottom right of page. Takes forever, but gets rid of things others don't.

674 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:59:04pm

re: #671 ciaospirit

John McCain is starting to make me sicker than he did before. I could spit on this video.

Obama, McCain vow to work together to 'fix up the country'

Now who didn't see that coming?

675 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:59:19pm

re: #657 Spiny Norman

Is it okay to post addresses and telephone numbers of they belong to Miscreants, Hoodlums and Touts?

676 3 wood  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:59:20pm

re: #648 rawmuse

Oh, I am keeping track. I am just shrugging it off.
What else can one do?

Buy up some bargains for the long term and be patient. That's it.

677 OldLineTexan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:59:21pm

re: #636 formercorpsman

OT: For what it is worth, when we discussing the Doctor Hseih last night night on the thread, I started to surf with respect to his name.

I clicked on something which appeared to be a blog of his, and his wife (I am assuming) and upon clicking around in the blog, a nice new window opened for me.

It let me know that my system could be infected, etc.

I have been fighting the nastiest little thing called Antivirus pro 2009.

Don't get that one.

I have a website that I used last night to "cure" that. Want it?

678 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:59:24pm

re: #670 3 wood

You know, I've always been interested in reading about the 1930's

I just never thought I would live through a repeat of them.

Coming soon to a town near you Obamaville's (the 2000's version of Hoovervilles)

This is part of his plan to get us to eat less.

679 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 4:59:41pm

re: #643 3 wood

Well, I'm sure this can be chalked up to one or more of the following causes:

1) Racist billionaires, determined to deny The One and his constituency their money, are deliberately tanking the market, the better to conceal their wealth from the deserving poor. If they can't keep it, then no one can have it.

2) Billionaire racists, determined to deny The One and his constituency their money, are deliberately tanking the market, the better to conceal their wealth from the deserving poor. If they can't keep it, then no one can have it.

3) It's a plan, you see. What he's gonna do is let the market prices fall, and then swoop in and snatch up those shares at bargain-basement prices. In so doing, he'll ... well, I don't know what he'll do. It's his plan, not mine.

4) Billionaire racists, and racist billionaires, plunged deep into depression and angst over the prospect of this nation in the capable (and healing) hands of the Light-Worker, have acquired nasty meth habits, and are selling off their assets to the first comer. Sort of like your brother-in-law with his stereo.

680 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:04pm

re: #675 doppelganglander

Is it okay to post addresses and telephone numbers of they belong to Miscreants, Hoodlums and Touts?

no

681 Dustyvet  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:05pm

re: #662 Dustyvet

I just heard it was really the War Of the Roses....

And I'm not going to mention the role they played at the Battle of The Little Big Horn...
Custer got an arrow shirt in that one.

682 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:05pm

re: #670 3 wood

You know, I've always been interested in reading about the 1930's

I just never thought I would live through a repeat of them.

Coming soon to a town near you Obamaville's (the 2000's version of Hoovervilles)

Knowing the propensity of who the media will blame they will most likely get dubbed Bushbergs or some such.

683 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:12pm

re: #519 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

CIWS... short for "Christ, it won't shoot!"

Besides, a Klingon Phalanx would be far better than a Vulcan Phalanx... every Trekkie knows that.

I kinda like the MetalStorm products.

BTW, anyone seen the new Trek trailer?

684 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:14pm

re: #662 Dustyvet

I just heard it was really the War Of the Roses....

The War of the Rosenbergs?

685 formercorpsman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:21pm

re: #677 OldLineTexan

Do you mind emailing that to me a Formercorpsman@yahoo.com?

686 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:38pm

re: #663 formercorpsman

It is not letting me do anything.

Since I am not by any stretch of the imagination, a computer guru, changing browsers would still leave it on your hard drive though.

Correct?

Probably so.
But it seemed to affect only my firefox browser, spying on whatever I did there.
It's not on the Safari browser.
I assume it cannot affect me if I don't use the browser it affected.
I am probably wrong, but not gonna worry right now.

I got the damned thing about a week after I took the computer to Geek Squad and had a complete clean-up. I don't want to spend any more money right now. I use my laptop for sensitive stuff.

687 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:00:51pm
688 rawmuse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:01:00pm

re: #676 3 wood

Buy up some bargains for the long term and be patient. That's it.

All my disposable income went in to weapons and ammo.
Call me a pessimist, but I think they may come in more handy than 100 shares of Proctor and Gamble.

689 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:01:04pm

Headline right now:
Aid prospects darken for carmakers.

690 formercorpsman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:01:11pm

re: #673 Thanos

Will do, thanks Thanos.

I am on safe mode right now, and it is not even showing up.

Real pain in the ass.

691 Racer X  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:01:24pm

re: #643 3 wood

Not that anybody is keeping track but the DOW is down about 1,400 points since The Messiah got elected, and still dropping.

All Bush's fault. As is anything bad that happens, anywhere, for the next ten years.

/

692 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:01:29pm

re: #668 doppelganglander

It's just more proof I have no life.

hey. im here too. i have no life. LGF, my shop and my dog. thats it. however, LGF is pretty cool and you should feel proud to be blogging here. that's what i tell myself frequently, : )

693 Brit in Japan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:01:30pm

re: #601 Miss Trixie

And we still luvs yez anyway. Reminds me of the poster "opnion" who was so happy to be finally registered. I was curious about his nic and suggested that perhaps it was an accidental typo: here opnion was, at the keyboard, blood racing and fingers trembling at the thought of an open registration and dying to get in under the wire and goes and mispells "opinion".

Got a great big giggle out of that mental image. :D

And opnion was very gracious at my silly poke in the ribs. :D

Haha, yes I know opnion's feeling. I saw an open window - for once, finally, as they never happen while I am logged on here in Japan - and sort of panicked. That's why my nic is so... boring. :(

Well, time for me to do some work (it's morning here). So... ttfn!


K.

694 GeeWiz  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:01:55pm

re: #598 irongrampa

I lurked for years before registering. For the longest time I was intimidated by the level of discourse here--still am, to a lesser degree.

Same here! What I discovered, once I ventured in, was that the lizards are most engaging and forgiving to those less informed. As the old saying goes, "there is no such thing as a dumb question". The only caveat is don't profess a position on a topic that you are not prepared to defend. If you feel strongly on a topic, express it along with your reasons why. Be prepared to be challenged and be open to other opinions without taking the challenge personally. The whole purpose of this exercise is to expand the knowledge and thinking of the members. Should you have a thought not expressed by others here, by all means post it. Who knows, you may give some here food for thought.

Just keep this in mind. Expression of opinions serves to open the door of discussion rather than close it. The more diverse the opinions, the more lively the discussion.

695 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:02:15pm

re: #675 doppelganglander

Is it okay to post addresses and telephone numbers of they belong to Miscreants, Hoodlums and Touts?

NOT Touts!

696 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:02:22pm

re: #660 callahan23

But he does rip them a ne* one. Maybe he can even be brilliant when sober?
/

I noticed something nuanced about Matthews in that interview with Chris and Peter. Matthews was not totally in the tank for Obama or his choice of Hillary for SOS. Even though he tried to ignore Hitchens a lot, he was not letting suck up Beinart get away with all his pro-Hillary remarks.

Somethings afoot, Watson.

697 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:02:44pm

re: #677 OldLineTexan

I have a website that I used last night to "cure" that. Want it?

I do.

698 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:02:53pm

re: #675 doppelganglander

Is it okay to post addresses and telephone numbers of they belong to Miscreants, Hoodlums and Touts?

I figured if it's fake it shouldn't be a problem.

Then again...

Charles may delete or edit as he sees fit. Sorry.

699 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:02:55pm

re: #687 ploome hineni

McCain betrayed us

/spit

Been doing that for quite some time....McCain/Feingold and other legislative travesties.

700 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:03:12pm

re: #689 Silhouette

Headline right now:
Aid prospects darken for carmakers.

I hope so. The radio just played a snip of Harry Reid arguing for the Auto bailout. and what ever "this war is lost" (D) baby wants "this war is lost" (D) baby gets.

701 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:03:23pm

re: #646 loppyd

I'm stealing his quote that the O's presidency is Clinton Redux.

And doesn't he mention the Kissinger question about being appointed yet Kissinger wouldn't do it because he would be found out with whom he's dealing with.
Some Hitch says goes for the Clintons, they wouldn't wanna reveal their shaddy campaign donations.

702 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:03:38pm
Barack Obama's incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists during the George W. Bush presidency.

Because he's such a nice, forgiving, uniter.

Certainly not because he just found out they didn't do a damn thing wrong.

/can you believe we've gotten to a place where "harsh" interrogations are considered wrong by half the country. Not torture, "harsh." Nothing but "pretty please with sugar on it", I suppose.

703 irongrampa  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:04:36pm

re: #632 buzzsawmonkey

I can't for the life of me understand how a document (Constitution) written in black and white can be read in so many shades of grey. It says what it says, with no ambiguity.

704 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:06:00pm

re: #696 Walter L. Newton

I noticed something nuanced about Matthews in that interview with Chris and Peter. Matthews was not totally in the tank for Obama or his choice of Hillary for SOS. Even though he tried to ignore Hitchens a lot, he was not letting suck up Beinart get away with all his pro-Hillary remarks.

Somethings afoot, Watson.

Definitely something afoot, Holmes.

705 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:06:11pm

re: #643 3 wood

Coincidence...nothing to see here...move along.

706 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:06:30pm

re: #701 callahan23

And doesn't he mention the Kissinger question about being appointed yet Kissinger wouldn't do it because he would be found out with whom he's dealing with.
Some Hitch says goes for the Clintons, they wouldn't wanna reveal their shaddy campaign donations.

That list is as heavily guarded as Fort Knox.

707 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:06:40pm

re: #703 irongrampa

I can't for the life of me understand how a document (Constitution) written in black and white can be read in so many shades of grey. It says what it says, with no ambiguity.

Because fallible people wrote the thing, and fallible people are doing the interpreting of what fallible people wrote.

708 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:06:49pm

re: #501 Spiny Norman

I absolutely love miniguns. Unfortunately, they cost as much
my house (perhaps more for registered civilian transfer).

What's not to love?

709 Right mind left  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:07:07pm

YAY - I finally got to the end of the thread after reading and reading and never getting caught up. I don't know how you lizards do this, and stay up with the latest in the threads ... but I will give it a try!

Have you ever gotten to this point and forgotten what you wanted to say?

On another note, anyone notice that 0 seems to be hiring all his defense attorneys up front?

710 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:08:29pm

re: #527 FurryOldGuyJeans

When you use the link button, and the edit box pops up, leave the http:// already there highlighted so it get "overwritten" with your link URL. I just use the paste command (CTRL+V) to insert it. Only works for a Windows machine, though, have no clue how to do it with a Mac or Unix box.

"FOG-J" -

My "Cyber" Problem today was installing An HP-1018 Laser Jet to a late model VISTA based laptop. Forgot that VISTA asks questions after the fact and had to re-do. My bad on that one for the wasted time. was in such a hurry that I forgot the "nanny" stuff. -S-

711 calcajun  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:08:39pm

re: #708 Iron Fist

I absolutely love miniguns. Unfortunately, they cost as much
my house (perhaps more for registered civilian transfer).

What's not to love?

Who needs a sawzall when you have a mini-gun.

712 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:08:44pm

Koskidz pan to riot for change......
Obama Needs a Protest Movement

The real power of ordinary people in this society is not in which corporate pre-approved candidates we elect to national office, but in our capacity to threaten the process of profit-making by interfering with business as usual, whether that takes the form of strikes, sit-ins, riots, or mass marches. Elections can effect the terrain on which these struggles occur for better or for worse, but it is precisely these sorts of movements, and not who is sitting in office, that is the most important determinant of progressive social change.
....
Hopefully, the election of Obama will put wind back into the sails of peoples movemenst of the sort that can deliver REAL change we can believe in.


Heh. 40% of koskidz think social unrest is going to help Obama.

713 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:08:54pm

re: #709 Right mind left

YAY - I finally got to the end of the thread after reading and reading and never getting caught up. I don't know how you lizards do this, and stay up with the latest in the threads ... but I will give it a try!

Have you ever gotten to this point and forgotten what you wanted to say?

On another note, anyone notice that 0 seems to be hiring all his defense attorneys up front?

You gotta post your comment before you get to the end of the thread. You gotta post it when it occurs to you. Otherwise, you're lost.

714 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:09:26pm

re: #708 Iron Fist

I absolutely love miniguns. Unfortunately, they cost as much
my house (perhaps more for registered civilian transfer).

What's not to love?

For a second there I read "mignons". Must be hungry or something. lol!

715 yah  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:09:56pm
716 sngnsgt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:10:00pm

re: #709 Right mind left

YAY - I finally got to the end of the thread after reading and reading and never getting caught up. I don't know how you lizards do this, and stay up with the latest in the threads ... but I will give it a try!

Have you ever gotten to this point and forgotten what you wanted to say?

On another note, anyone notice that 0 seems to be hiring all his defense attorneys up front?

Prophylactic defense.

717 ciaospirit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:10:09pm

re: #687 ploome hineni

McCain betrayed us

/spit

Double spit. I still don't know how he became the nominee. Is the media really that powerful? (rhetorical). It's bad enough I had to support someone who I deemed too "nice," but he just kept stabbing us over and over again, and now he continues to stab all the good people who supported him in his folly. I was willing to try to drag him across the finish line, but no more, no how, no way will I have anything "nice" to say concerning him. Not that he cares what any of his former hardworking supporters think. He's now a lifer in the Senate.

718 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:10:09pm

re: #714 rightymouse

For a second there I read "mignons". Must be hungry or something. lol!

I don't even want to tell you what I read.

719 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:10:31pm

re: #703 irongrampa

I can't for the life of me understand how a document (Constitution) written in black and white can be read in so many shades of grey. It says what it says, with no ambiguity.


How about the Bible or the Quran. If these documents were so clear there wouldn't be any disagreement.

720 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:01pm

re: #704 callahan23

Definitely something afoot, Holmes.

In the least, it would be the MSM setting up to try to get back some of the market share they lost while getting Obama elected. Let's face it, they got what they wanted, took a few hits, but now they can come back and start looking like the skeptics.

The bottom line is viewership, and the MSM can keep moving their target as their marketing execs see fit.

Let's not forget, it's a business.

721 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:12pm

re: #706 loppyd

That list is as heavily guarded as Fort Knox.

I'm afraid as much.
But will nobody go and investigate if someone is being chosen into such a high position?
Like some good deep digging investigative journalists with high ethics standards?
///

722 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:14pm

re: #718 reine.de.tout

I don't even want to tell you what I read.

{reine}

Do tell! :)

723 yah  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:16pm

re: #709 Right mind left

I think most of them are speed readers. By the time I read through everything there's a new thread with 200 posts on it.

724 Geepers  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:18pm

Iron Fist (#708),

I absolutely love miniguns. Unfortunately, they cost as much
my house (perhaps more for registered civilian transfer).

What's not to love?

Mini guns are OK I guess, but why not get a full size one?

725 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:23pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

Koskidz pan to riot for change......
Obama Needs a Protest Movement

Heh. 40% of koskidz think social unrest is going to help Obama.

Intellectual infants, aren't they?

"Profit making" is the new "crime against the people".

Only 40%? Is there a poll on that diary we can mess with?

726 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:39pm

re: #703 irongrampa

I can't for the life of me understand how a document (Constitution) written in black and white can be read in so many shades of grey. It says what it says, with no ambiguity.

There's plenty of ambiguity, especially if you really don't want it to mean something. The 2nd amendment is full of it.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


That can be interpreted to mean quite a number of things. The extreme left seems to think it means that we are allowed to have pocket knives. The extreme right tends towards nuclear devices.

727 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:11:51pm

re: #717 ciaospirit

wow. harsh but good.

728 doppelganglander  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:12:07pm

I don't normally listen to O'Reilly, but he's got a guy on talking about Christopher Dodd's mortgage shenanigans. He talked about Dodd's father, also a senator, who was considered of greater political stature than Christopher. Anyway, the father was censured by the Senate for using campaign funds to pay his mortgage. Clearly Dad passed on his keen financial acumen to young Chris.

729 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:12:10pm

re: #715 yah

Great!
We're in the IN crowd baby

730 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:12:17pm

re: #724 Geepers

Iron Fist (#708),


Mini guns are OK I guess, but why not get a full size one?

That would be the one they built the A-10 around?

;^)

731 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:12:26pm

re: #719 Killgore Trout

How about the Bible or the Quran. If these documents were so clear there wouldn't be any disagreement.

The Constitution at least has the decided advantage of being written in the language most spoken in the US. Most people do not as a general rule speak Biblical Greek or Hebrew any more.

732 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:13:10pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

Wonderful; I thought, at a minimum, that electing this guy would mean that all his minions would get government jobs, tenure, or just sort of crawl back under their rocks.

Wait a minute, government jobs? If they protest for the Obamessiah, then maybe they will have gummint jobs, after all.

Great, so not only do we have to listen to their incessant gloating, but they're still going to be out there throwing their tantrums? Great, so there's absolutely no upside to this thing, is there?

733 OldLineTexan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:13:54pm

re: #685 formercorpsman

Mail on its way.

734 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:13:55pm

re: #725 Spiny Norman

"Profit making" is the new "crime against the people".

I guess that puts automakers in the clear.

735 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:14:10pm

re: #725 Spiny Norman

Intellectual infants, aren't they?

"Profit making" is the new "crime against the people".

Only 40%? Is there a poll on that diary we can mess with?

Why yes, there is!

=^D

736 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:14:21pm

re: #719 Killgore Trout

How about the Bible or the Quran. If these documents were so clear there wouldn't be any disagreement.

Non fiction vs fiction. Different aisles. Same store. ;)

737 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:14:22pm

re: #722 rightymouse

{reine}

Do tell! :)

It's too embarrassing.
Really.
my eyes must have been crossed when I looked at "miniguns".

738 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:14:26pm

re: #720 Walter L. Newton

Let's not forget, it's a business.

There we are again at the theme from earlier today. Murdoch to media...

739 Racer X  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:14:36pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

Koskidz pan to riot for change......
Obama Needs a Protest Movement


Heh. 40% of koskidz think social unrest is going to help Obama.


Idiots. Still trying to "stick it to the man". I guess it is hard for them to believe that Obama is now "the man".

740 gettinby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:14:41pm

re: #724 Geepers

Iron Fist (#708),


Mini guns are OK I guess, but why not get a full size one?

/size matters. ;)

741 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:14:55pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

These next four years could be fun.

742 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:15:14pm

re: #717 ciaospirit

Double spit. I still don't know how he became the nominee.

And Now, Your Honor, Exhibit 1: Mike (Deputy Dawg) Huckabee.

He knew he could not get the nomination yet he stayed in the race to edge Romney out. He is a snake with his "golly gee" act.

743 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:15:35pm

re: #725 Spiny Norman

There's also a great Marxist hiphop video too.

744 Irish Rose  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:15pm

Yay, fresh meat!

745 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:16pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

Koskidz pan to riot for change......
Obama Needs a Protest Movement


Heh. 40% of koskidz think social unrest is going to help Obama.

Well, people do tend to play to their strengths, and if all you got is the ability to throw a tantrum, then that's what you do.

746 VegasRick  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:21pm

re: #708 Iron Fist

I absolutely love miniguns. Unfortunately, they cost as much
my house (perhaps more for registered civilian transfer).

What's not to love?

Must have for every home.

747 gregg  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:26pm

The President of Iceland, who is mad that the U.S. and U.K. have not provided aid to his crisis-ridden country, has invited Russia to use the old U.S. airbase of Keflavik.

May you live in interesting times!

748 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:34pm

re: #731 FurryOldGuyJeans

The Constitution at least has the decided advantage of being written in the language most spoken in the US. Most people do not as a general rule speak Biblical Greek or Hebrew any more.


My Dad is an ancient Greek expert - New Testament translation consultant. He says that they 'guess' at the meaning and come as close as possible in terms of social context for the time.

Anyone who speaks several languages knows how difficult it is to literally translate even in modern context.

749 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:36pm

re: #739 Racer X

Idiots. Still trying to "stick it to the man". I guess it is hard for them to believe that Obama is now "the man".

What are they going to do with all of their displaced angst and anger? What are they going to bitch about? Anti-establishment idiots are now on the side of the establishment. What to do ? What to do ?

750 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:51pm

Hot diggity damn, hatchlings!

Let's poke a few and see if we got any trolls in the batch!

751 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:16:58pm

re: #734 solomonpanting

"Profit making" is the new "crime against the people".

I guess that puts automakers in the clear.

Since 2004, GM alone has lost $64 billion, so you have point.

In the minds of not only the Kos Kid Left, but a good many "mainstream" Democrats, Industry exists to provide jobs, and that only.

752 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:03pm

ACLU does the right thing.
Sort of.
And late.

753 sngnsgt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:03pm

re: #725 Spiny Norman

Intellectual infants, aren't they?

"Profit making" is the new "crime against the people".

Only 40%? Is there a poll on that diary we can mess with?

Here's the latest @ KOS

Poll
Does Obam Need a Protest Movement?
Yes
41% 16 votes
He may not, but we do.
31% 12 votes
No, we should just trust him to do right.
21% 8 votes
No, protest is counter-productive.
8% 3 votes

Vote early, vote often

754 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:15pm

Question for AZ Lizards since there's ire about McCain, and who knows maybe he does take a position. Are there any good R's in AZ who can win his seat?

755 gettinby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:20pm

re: #742 loppyd

And Now, Your Honor, Exhibit 1: Mike (Deputy Dawg) Huckabee.

He knew he could not get the nomination yet he stayed in the race to edge Romney out. He is a snake with his "golly gee" act.

And he's probably "set up for life."

/I wonder who the payor was/is.

756 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:35pm

re: #711 calcajun

I've actually seen a tripod mounted rig that had three miniguns on it. It could select between weapons or fire all three guns at once. I never did get to see it fired. But on shere scale of firepower, I have to give it to a weapon they had at Knob Creek the year I went. A quad .50 caliber anti-aircraft setup from WWII. Man, but did that thing rock!

:-)

757 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:38pm

re: #737 reine.de.tout

It's too embarrassing.
Really.
my eyes must have been crossed when I looked at "miniguns".

Ok - I shut up now. lol!

758 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:41pm

re: #729 CalBear84

Great!
We're in the IN crowd baby


So we must be bored of it all by now..........

759 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:46pm

re: #739 Racer X

Idiots. Still trying to "stick it to the man". I guess it is hard for them to believe that Obama is now "the man".

0bama's the Man?

760 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:54pm

re: #742 loppyd

Mitt was my choice.
Oh well, not sure he could have won this time around anyway.

761 Killian Bundy  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:17:57pm

Scandal exposes Islam's weakness

Just such a Teutonic mystic is Professor Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a German convert to Islam who teaches Muslim theology at the University of Munster. Kalisch recently laid a Gnostic egg in the nest of Islam, declaring that the Prophet Mohammed never existed, not at least in the way that the received version of Islamic tradition claims he did. Given that Kalisch holds an academic chair specifically funded to instruct teachers of Islam in Germany's school system, a scandal ensued, first reported in the mainstream English-language press by Andrew Higgins in the November 15 edition of the Wall Street Journal.

On closer reading, Kalisch offers a far greater challenge to Islam than the secular critics who reject its claims. The headline that a Muslim academic has doubts over the existence of the Prophet Mohammed is less interesting than why he has such doubts. Kalisch does not want to harm Islam, but rather to expose what he believes to be its true nature. Islam, he argues, really is a Gnostic spiritual teaching masquerading as myth. Kalisch's heretical variant of Islam may be close enough to the religion's original intent as to provoke a re-evaluation of the original sources.

/hmmm . . .

762 SFGoth  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:18:02pm

Just back from NYC seeing a special Blue Oyster Cult show - 3 hours 5 minutes and 25 songs. :-> Only problem was keeping up with LGF on my Blackberry this weekend.

763 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:18:02pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

Koskidz pan to riot for change......
Obama Needs a Protest Movement
Heh. 40% of koskidz think social unrest is going to help Obama.

I just read that thing. Describing them as kids are certainly spot on. Honestly, they come across with all the critical thinking skills of an amoeba. I would really love to know the average age of the posters at Kos.

Well, maybe I wouldn't want to know their age, it may scare me. I just hope to hell they are mainly in their teens.

764 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:18:18pm

re: #744 Irish Rose

Yay, fresh meat!

And some good posts already!

765 fish  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:18:50pm

re: #578 ploome hineni

first few months I was here, all I did as google to find reference to other people's posts

I was too scared to have an opinion

I was google queen

I have been lurking for 4 years too scared to have an opinion. One of my first posts was my idea on how to settle the Pali problem, I was slapped down for having a bad idea and haven't posted again until this summer.

If nothing else Obama made me post again...

766 OldLineTexan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:18:53pm

re: #697 reine.de.tout

reine, my nic is blue

767 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:18:58pm

re: #761 Killian Bundy

Kalisch recently laid a Gnostic egg in the nest of Islam...

I do love a clever turn of phrase...

768 bellamags  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:19:08pm

re: #753 sngnsgt

I voted. now I need to shower.

769 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:19:16pm

re: #747 gregg

The President of Iceland, who is mad that the U.S. and U.K. have not provided aid to his crisis-ridden country, has invited Russia to use the old U.S. airbase of Keflavik.

May you live in interesting times!

Interesting indeed.

770 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:19:41pm

re: #763 Walter L. Newton

I forget the actual demographics over there but they are older than you think. (average 40-50?) They still have childish minds.

771 ciaospirit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:19:51pm

Too bad he has no clue what it takes. He never ran a business and has no experience in national or world finance. None. So, which adviser will he believe and follow?

President-elect Barack Obama said the U.S. government will do ``whatever it takes'' to revive the economy
772 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:19:51pm

re: #758 IslandLibertarian

Too cool to be bored.

773 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:19:54pm

re: #761 Killian Bundy

Scandal exposes Islam's weakness

/hmmm . . .

What the hell is it with German Scholars and religion?

774 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:20:03pm

re: #760 CalBear84

Mitt was my choice.
Oh well, not sure he could have won this time around anyway.

He was mine as well.

It's hard to say if he would have won, but his economic gravitas would not have hurt him.

775 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:20:23pm

re: #748 rightymouse

My Dad is an ancient Greek expert - New Testament translation consultant. He says that they 'guess' at the meaning and come as close as possible in terms of social context for the time.

Anyone who speaks several languages knows how difficult it is to literally translate even in modern context.

I have a friend who does Bible translation. They'll take a word, and look at every place it appears and compare the context in each case, look for a contextual baseline, then they'll compare that word and the context with other period texts that are available. That's just for the word, they'll repeat the exercise for phrases, and sentences. Painstaking work.

776 3 wood  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:20:50pm

I see where some gay activist protestors are now starting to invade private church services and disrupting them.

Why can't people of faith be left alone to worship?

777 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:07pm

re: #749 bellamags

Well, that's easy. You see, when their Dear Leader tries to usher in the New Millennium and things don't correspond in all details and specifics to the fantasies these folk have cooked up during their all-night political B.S. sessions, the blame will clearly fall on those whose impurity has prevented us from benefiting from the sheer genius of Change and Hope. Consequently, purges will be in order. I predict light protesting at first, followed by occasional thundering rages against the Enemies of the People.

In short, expect more giant puppets, more Code Pink, more of everything that makes most colleges simply insufferable, only this time with more official support.

778 ArmyWife  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:26pm

Hello everyone! How goes it with the hatchlings? Any record setting whacks from Mandy or thunks from Stinky?

779 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:26pm

re: #761 Killian Bundy

There is a lot of interesting work being done in Germany. Lizard Pre-Boomer Marine Brat keeps up on it...

780 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:39pm

re: #577 WayDownSouthInBama

Yes,I know you are right. I guess the bright side is that at least with Hillary we shouldn't have to wait on a global test before acting should we? On the other hand,if she can't keep up with Sec. of State paperwork any better than she did the Rose Law Firm paperwork...

'Bama -

Hillary has NEVER been a "Paperwork Person." Hasn't been since her service on the House Democratic Impeachment Legal Staff back in 1974 when I first encountered her. Truth be told, Re: The Nixon Impeachment - I Was BAD. She was worse - maintaining that Former President Nixon had no intrinsic "Right to Counsel" as Impeachment & Conviction was merely the same as "Being Fired." Because of that position, and her support of it - she is the ONLY Junior Democratic Counsel of that time and era never to be recommended for advancement by her seniors. Since then she has "Grown-Up," - HAS KERRY?

-S-

781 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:43pm

re: #762 SFGoth

Sweet!
Those guys must be 157 years old now.
How was the show?
They used to show up and play small clubs in the SF Bay Area under the name "Soft White Underbelly"

782 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:43pm

re: #763 Walter L. Newton

I just read that thing. Describing them as kids are certainly spot on. Honestly, they come across with all the critical thinking skills of an amoeba. I would really love to know the average age of the posters at Kos.

Well, maybe I wouldn't want to know their age, it may scare me. I just hope to hell they are mainly in their teens.

Probably a wide range, from aging hippies who took the brown acid, to spoiled, sullen teens who want to "kill their parents", but mostly college age, I'd guess.

783 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:50pm

re: #724 Geepers

See my #756. Knob Creek as a whole is a real treat. I overheard a dealer and an importer cut a deal for a minigun. It was $65K, and that was at the importer's price. His profit in the deal was that he be allowed to play with the weapon for two weeks before he transferred the weapon to him (the dealer).

It was a good thing, as Martha Stewert says.

784 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:21:54pm

re: #748 rightymouse

My Dad is an ancient Greek expert - New Testament translation consultant. He says that they 'guess' at the meaning and come as close as possible in terms of social context for the time.

Anyone who speaks several languages knows how difficult it is to literally translate even in modern context.

And on top of that, Jesus probably spoke Aramaic, so, you go from the social nuances of Aramaic, which people heard, to recording that information into Greek, which was written.

785 sngnsgt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:22:07pm

re: #765 fish

Is yours a post of fear or a post of protest?

786 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:22:08pm

re: #755 gettinby

And he's probably "set up for life."

/I wonder who the payor was/is.

I think it was motivated by his disdain for Mitt more than anything else.

Now he has his G.A. show on Fox.

787 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:22:08pm

i remember when i was a kid and i found and brought home a ammo box of live 50 cal rounds.

788 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:22:31pm

re: #757 rightymouse

Ok - I shut up now. lol!

minigun and lingus something

789 OldLineTexan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:22:53pm

re: #726 CyanSnowHawk

That can be interpreted to mean quite a number of things. The extreme left seems to think it means that we are allowed to have pocket knives. The extreme right tends towards nuclear devices.

Heard that claimed by anti-rights enthusiasts since 1991, have never seen it as an actual quote in print or heard it stated by a person as their opinion.

790 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:22:54pm

re: #778 ArmyWife

Hello everyone! How goes it with the hatchlings? Any record setting whacks from Mandy or thunks from Stinky?

There was a sock puppet above that didn't make it until registration closed.

791 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:22:55pm

re: #771 ciaospirit

"whatever it takes"...
Now THERE'S A PLAN!

792 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:02pm

re: #646 loppyd

I'm stealing his quote that the O's presidency is Clinton Redux.

Without the Dot com economic Ptoempkinesque "reality"

793 ciaospirit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:16pm

re: #776 3 wood

I see where some gay activist protestors are now starting to invade private church services and disrupting them.

Why can't people of faith be left alone to worship?

It was vile what they did.

794 aquariumly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:16pm

RE: Question for AZ Lizards since there's ire about McCain, and who knows maybe he does take a position. Are there any good R's in AZ who can win his seat?

-No ):

795 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:39pm

re: #776 3 wood

I see where some gay activist protestors are now starting to invade private church services and disrupting them.

Why can't people of faith be left alone to worship?

What's detestable about this is that there haven't been arrests. It's like the ISM invasion of Easter Services in Chicago.

796 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:43pm

re: #770 Killgore Trout

I forget the actual demographics over there but they are older than you think. (average 40-50?) They still have childish minds.

Well, that scary. Of course I know a lot of that age grouped liberal, but, even though they drive me silly with some of their logic, it rarely hits the lows of what I read on Kos.

797 Throbert McGee  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:49pm

re: #568 doppelganglander

Your name came up today in connection with TNR and Scott Beauchamp on this thread. If you'd like to clarify what really happened, several of us would appreciate it. We don't want to misrepresent your experience. And if you don't want to go there, that's cool too.

Thanks for pointing that out, doppelganglander.

I would recommend this detailed Pajamas Media account by Richard Miniter, who interviewed me by phone and email after l'affaire Beauchamp. (Incidentally, I didn't find out Beauchamp's surname until after I got canned at TNR. And I didn't know until Miniter corrected me in our phone conversation that Scott Beauchamp pronounces his surname more or less French style, "bow-SHAWMP," rather than the Britishized version "BEE-chum," which was the pronuciation I had been using.)

In any case, Miniter's article gives an adequate account of just about everything from my side of the story -- although as a point of trivia, he mentions the movie Shattered Glass but doesn't mention (because I didn't bring it up in the interview) that by sheer coincidence, I had seen the movie for the very first time just days before the Beauchamp story blew up in TNR's face. Not only that, but I had purchased and watched the movie on DVD as a work-related assignment at the instructions of my boss (she wanted me to get a video clip of Chloe Sevigny bragging "this isn't just any political rag, this is The New fuckin' Republic -- we're like the in-flight magazine of Air Force One!").

(I also had to buy and watch DVDs of Entourage, The Simpsons, and The Wire to get TNR-related soundbites from Jeremy Piven and Lisa Simpson and, um, some dude in The Wire who was a TNR reader.)

798 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:50pm

Ninety-Nine Percent of Texas Science Professors Surveyed Don't Believe in Intelligent Design

"In the spring of 2009, the Texas State Board of Education will vote to adopt new curriculum standards for the teaching of science in grades K – 12 in Texas public schools. (These guidelines are formally known as the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills, or TEKS.) Many observers, both within Texas and around the country, anticipate a vigorous push by certain interest groups to make the debate over the Texas science curriculum the latest front in the running battle over evolution."


So Eve, and the TFN, wanted to see where educators stood on the issue. Oof the 1,019 faculty members to whom the surveys were sent, 464 responded -- and fewer than 1 percent checked off the box marked, “Modern evolutionary biology is mostly wrong. Life arose through multiple creation events by an intelligent designer, although evolution by natural selection played a limited role.”


Pretty soon Texas school children will be unfit to enter Texas colleges.

799 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:23:50pm

re: #776 3 wood

For the same reason Code Pink can't stay out of the RNC.

800 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:24:33pm

Good evening Lizards, and welcome to all of the new hatchlings!

801 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:24:34pm

re: #776 3 wood

I see where some gay activist protestors are now starting to invade private church services and disrupting them.

Why can't people of faith be left alone to worship?

In the activists eyes, churchgoers who oppose them are evil, and therefore have no real right to tolerance. To their totalitarian minds, those will not serve those causes they decree to be good deserve to be crushed. Such people can not be reasoned with, only fought and defeated.

802 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:24:47pm

re: #774 loppyd

Plus he and Sarah would have made the greatest couple since Ken and Barbie!

803 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:25:00pm

Bush welcomes US Ryder Cup team to White House

I bet W and Boo Weekly had some yucks....

804 Irish Rose  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:25:06pm

OK, so...anyone here who thinks that letting the "big three" suffer a catastrophic failure that will drive thousands of small spin-off businesses into the ground - and put thousands upon thousands of American workers with families to provide for, on food stamps and welfare to survive - raise your hand!

Not sure what the answer to this dilemma is, but letting the American Auto Industry and all of the businesses and jobs that are tied to it collapse, is nothing less than economic suicide... my two cents.

Anyone?

805 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:25:28pm

re: #748 rightymouse

My Dad is an ancient Greek expert - New Testament translation consultant. He says that they 'guess' at the meaning and come as close as possible in terms of social context for the time.

Anyone who speaks several languages knows how difficult it is to literally translate even in modern context.

So, he is an expert on the Aged Athenians?

806 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:25:39pm

re: #763 Walter L. Newton

They think they want a Revolution. It'd almost be worth it to see the expression on these dickheads face when they are hauled off to Gulag. Extra points for if they just take 'em out back and just waste them.

Sometimes you get exactly what you wish for. And some times you wind up regreting it.

807 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:25:40pm

re: #679 Guanxi88

What's with the 88? That's not a popular number round here. If it has some other meaning in your nic, please do tell.

808 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:26:03pm

re: #802 CalBear84

Plus he and Sarah would have made the greatest couple since Ken and Barbie!

LOL

809 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:26:23pm

re: #798 Killgore Trout

And it's just this sort of thing that makes me to break into a wry smile, and the better half to grind her teeth, every time someone at her church trots out the anti-evol nonsense.

And to think, we conservatives are as saddled with this crap as the lefties are with the whole "non-hegemonic discourses" nonsense. Intellectually embarrassing all around.

810 ArmyWife  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:26:24pm

re: #776 3 wood

And just why are YOU stomping on their right to protest against those so obviously wronged, like what is happening to the Franken guy!


///////////////////// and then some

811 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:26:34pm

re: #807 Neo Con since 9-11

What's with the 88? That's not a popular number round here. If it has some other meaning in your nic, please do tell.

Good catch.........

812 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:27:02pm

re: #792 DisturbedEma

Without the Dot com economic Ptoempkinesque "reality"

But will there be a chubby intern?

813 Racer X  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:27:09pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

OK, so...anyone here who thinks that letting the "big three" suffer a catastrophic failure that will drive thousands of small spin-off businesses into the ground - and put thousands upon thousands of American workers with families to provide for, on food stamps and welfare to survive - raise your hand!

Not sure what the answer to this dilemma is, but letting the American Auto Industry and all of the businesses and jobs that are tied to it collapse, is nothing less than economic suicide... my two cents.

Anyone?

I say put more pressure on the unions to give concessions. Perfect opportunity to break them bastards. Crap, did I type that out loud?

814 Irish Rose  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:27:16pm

re: #750 jcm

Hot diggity damn, hatchlings!

Let's poke a few and see if we got any trolls in the batch!

Don't tempt me ;).

815 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:27:17pm

re: #775 jcm

I have a friend who does Bible translation. They'll take a word, and look at every place it appears and compare the context in each case, look for a contextual baseline, then they'll compare that word and the context with other period texts that are available. That's just for the word, they'll repeat the exercise for phrases, and sentences. Painstaking work.


It's not easy and they do the best they can. One may think it's rough translating ancient Greek into English. Huh. Think about some other languages, i.e. Asian ones.

816 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:27:30pm

re: #795 Thanos

They want to be arrested.
Left loves a martyr...

817 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:27:51pm
818 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:27:57pm

re: #789 OldLineTexan

I know. The exaggeration on the other end is comparable. I tend to think the Founders had a middle ground in mind, something around a standard military issue rifle.

819 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:28:00pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

Must seperate the legacy costs from the modern enterprise.

There is NO HOPE without fundamental change.

820 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:28:06pm

re: #776 3 wood

I see where some gay activist protestors are now starting to invade private church services and disrupting them.

Why can't people of faith be left alone to worship?

Because they are not TOLERENT, natch /////////// and //////////!

821 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:28:27pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

OK, so...anyone here who thinks that letting the "big three" suffer a catastrophic failure that will drive thousands of small spin-off businesses into the ground - and put thousands upon thousands of American workers with families to provide for, on food stamps and welfare to survive - raise your hand!

Not sure what the answer to this dilemma is, but letting the American Auto Industry and all of the businesses and jobs that are tied to it collapse, is nothing less than economic suicide... my two cents.

Anyone?

You seem to be suggesting that the whole industry just disappears. That won't be the case. They will restructure, be bought out by some other company, merge, whatever, but it just doesn't go away.

There will me some people who will take a hit, but the industry will emerge leaner and more ready to develop a product that is both well made, energy efficient and at a savings in cost.

822 Outrider  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:28:40pm

re: #597 buzzsawmonkey

That's a whole second Marine lost.


And one dedicated Marine found!

823 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:29:01pm

re: #807 Neo Con since 9-11

What's with the 88? That's not a popular number round here. If it has some other meaning in your nic, please do tell.

I'm curious now too.

824 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:29:43pm

re: #812 loppyd

But will there be a chubby intern?

Sure. . .Peggy will have to EARN her mortgage/gas money!

825 yah  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:29:50pm

re: #758 IslandLibertarian
And this ones for you IslandLibertian.

826 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:29:53pm

re: #823 Sharmuta

I'm curious now too.

As am I. Please explain.

827 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:04pm

re: #815 rightymouse

It's not easy and they do the best they can. One may think it's rough translating ancient Greek into English. Huh. Think about some other languages, i.e. Asian ones.

My dad has a Bible printed in the 1880's. The text is Hebrew but it's transliterated Farsi (Persian). Meaning I could give it too someone who how reads Hebrew but it would make any sense, but if it is read out loud a Farsi speaker will understand it.

828 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:12pm

re: #789 OldLineTexan

Way back before Registration I made a post where I said that the one gun control law that I don't have a problem with is the .50 BMG round being the most potent that you can get with out registration. I got my ass jumped six ways from Sunday about it because they thought you should be able to own anything, and that included nuclear weapons.

That is a position that I'll happily call extreme.

829 loppyd  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:13pm

BBIAB....

830 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:14pm

re: #823 Sharmuta

German artillery piece?

831 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:14pm

re: #775 jcm

I have a friend who does Bible translation. They'll take a word, and look at every place it appears and compare the context in each case, look for a contextual baseline, then they'll compare that word and the context with other period texts that are available. That's just for the word, they'll repeat the exercise for phrases, and sentences. Painstaking work.

It's an amazing process. How wonderful it is that there are human beings smart enough and patient enough to do it.

832 sngnsgt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:23pm

So much for global warming:

Rapid Rebound Brings Ice Back to Levels from the 1980s

Daily Tech

833 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:41pm

re: #807 Neo Con since 9-11

"88," rendered in Mandarin, is "ba, ba" which rhymes with the word for gold. I am aware of the other associations this number has, but pass them by without comment. Not my fault that certain miscreants (the same sort of SOB's who chased my ancestors out of Europe) have appropriated this and used it for their own purposes. Eh, let 'em have 88 if they want, they're not likely to get much else from me, though.

Jabotinsky was a huge influence, intellectually, in my family, and grandfather, who saw what happened to us in Europa (thankfully as a US Marine!) made a point to train up his children and grandchildren properly.

834 razorbacker  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:41pm

re: #418 A Kiwi Infidel

And to cover goat feta.

We here in NZ have a problem with feral goats. The Billies pong to the high heavens, rolling in the pee to make for a fine "aftershave" (not)

Feta smells of goat, that is just me, sorry.

Oh, and we shoot the goats for target practice, the wild pigs eat the dead goats, we hunt the pigs and eat them.

And the circle of life continues.

835 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:30:56pm

re: #816 CalBear84

They want to be arrested.
Left loves a martyr...

You should remember what happens when a Zombie tapes the "arrest". . .

836 gettinby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:01pm

re: #786 loppyd

I think it was motivated by his disdain for Mitt more than anything else.

Now he has his G.A. show on Fox.

What a stand-up guy, huh? Screw what's best for the whole...his personal upset is more important.

/water under the bridgeoops! Sorry, loppyd! You're from Mass! Not a good cliche (is this the correct word?) to use. LOL

837 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:07pm

re: #823 Sharmuta

I'm curious now too.

And I noticed since it was mentioned, he/she/it has bugged out. let's keep an eye on this one.

838 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:08pm

re: #821 Walter L. Newton

You seem to be suggesting that the whole industry just disappears. That won't be the case. They will restructure, be bought out by some other company, merge, whatever, but it just doesn't go away.

There will me some people who will take a hit, but the industry will emerge leaner and more ready to develop a product that is both well made, energy efficient and at a savings in cost.

I'm with you on that one Walter, everyone seems to forget that Buick, Pontiac, Oldsmobile used to be separate companies. Too big to fail, or too big to compete? I think the latter.

839 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:15pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

Perhaps if they go under, they'd be bought up by Honda or Toyota, who would retool after hiring back previous employees (non-union, of course).

840 Miss Trixie  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:17pm

re: #788 reine.de.tout

minigun and lingus something

*spewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww*

*thump*

841 NYCHardhat  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:26pm

re: #832 sngnsgt

Who knew? Al Gore made money off of bullshit. Gotta love this country.

842 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:29pm

re: #826 Dark_Falcon

As am I. Please explain.

88............

843 formercorpsman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:31pm

re: #769 Thanos

Yeah, real interesting.

Cold weather training.

844 Right mind left  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:31:37pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

OK, so...anyone here who thinks that letting the "big three" suffer a catastrophic failure that will drive thousands of small spin-off businesses into the ground - and put thousands upon thousands of American workers with families to provide for, on food stamps and welfare to survive - raise your hand!

Not sure what the answer to this dilemma is, but letting the American Auto Industry and all of the businesses and jobs that are tied to it collapse, is nothing less than economic suicide.

Seems to me that the vacuum created by the fall of these overweight giants will be the creating ground for some super efficient, new-idea driven solution based companies. Granted the tsunami created will rock lots of boats, but the opportunity is screaming to be capitalized - I would rather see the gov't put the billions into that instead of payola for then unions. AND, if you think about it the unions are playing hardball right now so the big three should take their balls and go home...or say they will.

845 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:08pm

re: #823 Sharmuta

I'm curious now too.

It's got some special meaning for Chinese as well. Lucky numbers.

846 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:11pm

re: #832 sngnsgt

So much for global warming:

Rapid Rebound Brings Ice Back to Levels from the 1980s

Daily Tech

It's not "global warming" anymore, it's "global climate change". That way, any change in year-to-year weather patterns can be blamed on human influence (the USA, in particular).

847 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:18pm

re: #835 DisturbedEma

I remember.
Thank heaven for Zombie.

848 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:25pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

Koskidz pan to riot for change......
Obama Needs a Protest Movement


Heh. 40% of koskidz think social unrest is going to help Obama.

"K-T" -

As always - be careful what you wish for. Sad Sacks - read some history - unrest in 1968 helped elect Richard M. Nixon - NOT - Hubert H. Humphrey.
The USA - will tolerate - AND - embrace a Center-Left government that appears to be competent. When it appears to be IN-Competent - it will be tossed. that is the lesson of 1968.

-S-

849 VegasRick  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:25pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

OK, so...anyone here who thinks that letting the "big three" suffer a catastrophic failure that will drive thousands of small spin-off businesses into the ground - and put thousands upon thousands of American workers with families to provide for, on food stamps and welfare to survive - raise your hand!

Not sure what the answer to this dilemma is, but letting the American Auto Industry and all of the businesses and jobs that are tied to it collapse, is nothing less than economic suicide... my two cents.

Anyone?

Chapter 11, reorganize, kick out the union, start competing with other non-union US automakers. It's been done before. Another $25b will buy them about 6 months then they will ask for more $$$$$, it will never end.

850 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:33pm
851 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:38pm

re: #776 3 wood

I see where some gay activist protestors are now starting to invade private church services and disrupting them.

Why can't people of faith be left alone to worship?


Just saw a video of this on O'Reilly.
The church-goers looked stunned.
The protesters looked stupid.

852 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:48pm

re: #807 Neo Con since 9-11

What's with the 88? That's not a popular number round here. If it has some other meaning in your nic, please do tell.

I'm also very curious about that number as it has some extremely bag connotation to me.

853 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:48pm

re: #845 Thanos

Buy that lizard a beer! Tsing Tao, perhaps?

854 freedombilly  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:32:49pm

re: #794 aquariumly

You might have the funniest avatar I've seen yet. Welcome.

855 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:04pm

re: #841 NYCHardhat

Who knew? Al Gore made money off of bullshit. Gotta love this country.

Watch who you insult, I have a friend in ID who makes good money off of bullshit, .... and any other shit that farming produces.

/ ;-P

856 gettinby  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:17pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

Personally, I don't have a problem with an actual, factual, solid LOAN; with reasonable payments and a return on investment to we, the taxpayers. for doing the loan.

/Our government needs to start running itself like a 'for-profit' business,imho.

857 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:20pm

re: #840 Miss Trixie

*spewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww*

*thump*

OUCH

858 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:25pm

re: #843 formercorpsman

Yeah, real interesting.

Cold weather training.

Didn't Red Storm Rising start with the Soviets taking Keflavik?

859 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:29pm

re: #833 Guanxi88

Fair enough. Welcome to LGF.

860 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:36pm
861 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:39pm

re: #833 Guanxi88

...I am aware of the other associations this number has, but pass them by without comment.

Well, maybe you could be a little more friendly next time and not pass them by. We were just interested. If you have lurked around LGF's at all, you know a lot of self-monitoring goes on here.

No problem, it was just a question.

862 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:41pm

frankly i think the big 3 should get re-structured before they get a bail out. things have to be fixed or they will be back again for more WELFARE

863 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:33:46pm

re: #830 CalBear84

German artillery piece?

It is true that the '88' was a series of German artillery weapons during WWII. However, it is sometimes used by Neo-Nazis, as H is the eighth letter of the alphabet (thus 88 = 'Heil Hitler'). That is Neo-con and Sharmuta's concern.

864 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:21pm

re: #861 Walter L. Newton

Hey, not a problem on my end. Gotta have standards, after all, or who are we?

865 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:25pm

re: #863 Dark_Falcon

Yep- don't like nazis.

866 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:27pm

re: #847 CalBear84

I remember.
Thank heaven for Zombie.

Nice that the story reported ended up being the truth- with cops and firefighters on both sides of my family. . .I cannot stand false accusations of police brutality. . .or the fact that that JAG ayers called the cops. . .the COPS. . .and reported Fox news people were bothering him. . .

867 NYCHardhat  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:37pm

re: #855 jcm

No offense to the farming community.
Much offense to Al Gore.

868 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:42pm

re: #853 Guanxi88

Buy that lizard a beer! Tsing Tao, perhaps?

I prefer Kirin, but mostly I drink Cognac.

869 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:43pm

re: #827 jcm

My dad has a Bible printed in the 1880's. The text is Hebrew but it's transliterated Farsi (Persian). Meaning I could give it too someone who how reads Hebrew but it would make any sense, but if it is read out loud a Farsi speaker will understand it.

Hang on to that Bible. Wow!
Was that 'it would' or 'would not' make any sense to someone who read Hebrew?

870 Iron Fist  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:51pm

re: #852 callahan23

It is white supremacist code. 88 stands for "Heil Hitler".

871 CalBear84  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:34:51pm

re: #851 reine.de.tout

Seems perfectly appropriate...on both counts!

872 razorbacker  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:35:25pm

re: #432 Walter L. Newton

Never answered my question. Hey, it could be worth it to some woman. I'm 55 now. Not making the 6 figure salary like before, but the right lady could wind up with my complete portfolio of plays. I make a few bucks a year off of royalties, and let's face it, a lot of writers are worth more dead than alive.

Calling Capt. Obvious:

Ever thought about faking a suicide (leave a note saying you are not worthy of living in an Obamanation since you didn't vote for Him).

Course, it'd be kinda deflating to find that you're worth the same dead as alive.

873 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:35:27pm

re: #788 reine.de.tout

minigun and lingus something

Oh, lawdy.

874 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:35:29pm

re: #868 Thanos

Sorry, don't know Japanese, and lack the sophistication for cognac. Calvados, though...

875 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:35:53pm

re: #851 reine.de.tout

Just saw a video of this on O'Reilly.
The church-goers looked stunned.
The protesters looked stupid.

I guess th eonly people who can find sanctuary in a church these days are those that run from the law, not those who are in need of protection under it. . .sad sad sad

876 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:08pm

re: #411 Walter L. Newton

Worst, liberals.

Golden is 18 miles south of Boulder Colorado, otherwise know as the People's Republic of Boulder. Up to recently, Golden has been a very conservative enclave in the middle of a lot of moonbatism.

But over the last 4-6 years, the liberal creep has slowly taken over here.

I think you need to get that looked at, it can't be good!

877 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:20pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

By bailing them out we just kick the can down the road. They'll fail again in another 10-15 years. They are working from an impossible business model. The unions have killed the golden goose. I think the Auto companies and the unions are blackmailing the American public into financing their unreasonable lifestyles. If there is a bailout it should come with serious restructuring.

878 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:27pm

re: #833 Guanxi88

Thanks I am greatly relieved.

879 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:32pm

re: #833 Guanxi88

"88," rendered in Mandarin, is "ba, ba" which rhymes with the word for gold. I am aware of the other associations this number has, but pass them by without comment. Not my fault that certain miscreants (the same sort of SOB's who chased my ancestors out of Europe) have appropriated this and used it for their own purposes. Eh, let 'em have 88 if they want, they're not likely to get much else from me, though.

Jabotinsky was a huge influence, intellectually, in my family, and grandfather, who saw what happened to us in Europa (thankfully as a US Marine!) made a point to train up his children and grandchildren properly.

Thank you, sir. That satisfies me.

880 NYCHardhat  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:33pm

re: #870 Iron Fist

What does the number 14 signify?

881 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:34pm

re: #825 yah

And this ones for you IslandLibertian.

I "think that song's about me"............or Frodo.............

882 DisturbedEma  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:49pm

re: #857 reine.de.tout

OUCH

That will leave a mark. . .

883 yochanan  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:36:59pm

re: #828 Iron Fist
I think the framers had a 'personal weapon' in mind doubt they thought you should have a cannon.

or be able to raise a personal army just look at what they did to the whiskey rebellion.

884 3 wood  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:37:10pm

By the way, Mark Cuban would be very wise to settle the insider trading charge filed by the SEC.

I read the details that were published.

Mark, you did it.

885 gregg  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:37:11pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

OK, so...anyone here who thinks that letting the "big three" suffer a catastrophic failure that will drive thousands of small spin-off businesses into the ground - and put thousands upon thousands of American workers with families to provide for, on food stamps and welfare to survive - raise your hand!

Not sure what the answer to this dilemma is, but letting the American Auto Industry and all of the businesses and jobs that are tied to it collapse, is nothing less than economic suicide... my two cents.

Anyone?

I'm to blame for GM's impending collapse. Until recently, Isuzu sold a small pickup (I-290) that was built by Chevy. It was basically a Chevy Colorado with Isuzu labels. Isuzu announced in February that they were pulling out of the U.S. market and I was able to pick up (pun intended) a new 2008 I-290 with a MSRP of $20,000 for about $12,500. I figured as long as GM was still around, I'd be able to get parts and have it serviced. I guess that wasn't clear thinking on my part.

886 sngnsgt  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:37:19pm

re: #846 Spiny Norman

It's not "global warming" anymore, it's "global climate change". That way, any change in year-to-year weather patterns can be blamed on human influence (the USA, in particular).

Ahh, I get it. So on an especially warm day, it suits a moonbats purpose to say it one way or another so they can play both sides of the argument. I shoulda known.

887 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:00pm

re: #869 rightymouse

Hang on to that Bible. Wow!
Was that 'it would' or 'would not' make any sense to someone who read Hebrew?

Would not.... PIMF.

My dad get's a kick out of giving to vistors who know Hebrew and watching the look on their faces.

888 reine.de.tout  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:02pm

re: #873 rightymouse

Oh, lawdy.

Miss Trixie thwacked me.
I am duly chastened.

889 Thanos  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:22pm

re: #874 Guanxi88

Sorry, don't know Japanese, and lack the sophistication for cognac. Calvados, though...

I dunno if cognac is sophisticated, but it's kind of nice to breath the fumes. How's your bike holding up?

890 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:28pm

re: #877 Killgore Trout

I agree. It's just how capitalism works.

891 callahan23  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:31pm

re: #870 Iron Fist

Yep!

892 rightymouse  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:37pm

re: #887 jcm

Would not.... PIMF.

My dad get's a kick out of giving to vistors who know Hebrew and watching the look on their faces.


I bet! :)

893 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:40pm

re: #877 Killgore Trout

Not just the unions to blame.

State Law protecting dealerships is mindboggling...

894 VegasRick  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:49pm

re: #877 Killgore Trout

By bailing them out we just kick the can down the road. They'll fail again in another 10-15 years. They are working from an impossible business model. The unions have killed the golden goose. I think the Auto companies and the unions are blackmailing the American public into financing their unreasonable lifestyles. If there is a bailout it should come with serious restructuring.

Crap! I hate it when I totally agree with you!
////

895 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:38:52pm

re: #880 NYCHardhat

What does the number 14 signify?

One third of the ultimate answer?

896 Guanxi88  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:39:06pm

re: #879 Dark_Falcon

Good, glad to hear it. Sorry to occasion any distress for anyone. Sad, though, that these beasts can lay claim to a friggin' number, isn't it?

897 jcm  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:39:30pm

re: #877 Killgore Trout

By bailing them out we just kick the can down the road. They'll fail again in another 10-15 years. They are working from an impossible business model. The unions have killed the golden goose. I think the Auto companies and the unions are blackmailing the American public into financing their unreasonable lifestyles. If there is a bailout it should come with serious restructuring.

You see the UAW says no concessions to help out?

898 yah  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:39:46pm

re: #804 Irish Rose

So we just keep paying these workers 80 bucks an hour to build crappy gas guzzling cars? The way the unions have the companies hog tied they could produce no cars at all and still have to pay everybody 80 bucks an hour.

There are employees jobs that have been replaced by robotic machines. But they go to work every day, drink coffee, read the paper or a book, watch TV, and get full pay because the "rules" say they can't be fired or let go.

899 loflyer  Mon, Nov 17, 2008 5:39:56pm