We won, how is that possible?

Yeah BABY!

It's an insurgency - that means this is a highbrow war with abstract and ambiguous results. Let's not be simplistic about it - that's for Democrats.

I'll be celebrating. And tellin all my friends.

Is that the word that Obama couldn't say - couldn't accept?
Yes, it is.

VICTORY!

I'm just worried that the Dems will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory after 1/20/09.

Someone put it up on Digg this morning, so if any of you have an account, here it is:[Link: digg.com...]

Who chose that date?

That's the date of the Kennedy Assassination.

It's kind of like choosing Pearl Harbor Day or 9/11.

Any body want to speculate on what Google is going to change it's logo to VI Day?

No one asked me about this. If they would have, I wood of put my foot down.

:)

re: #1 DesertSage

We won, how is that possible?

It went a little like this.

About a couple hundred thousand times.

Happy VI Day! To celebrate, I propose that Charles open registration for short period that day. This will allow us to welcome some new lizards into the fold. It will also allow us to snare a brace of trolls and flame them to a crisp for the victory dinner. They'll be a lot of us at the dinner so we'll need to catch at least two trolls to have enough gamey buttocks to go around.

It might be a bad date but it's a good cause. Fly the flag; if anybody asks why, tell them. Chances are they didn't know things had improved drastically in Iraq. It's a good chance to spread the word that the MSM is suppressing.

Joncelli,

You said: It might be a bad date but it's a good cause.

I say: Yes, it is. You're absolutely right about that.

re: #5 Athos

Is that the word that Obama couldn't say - couldn't accept?
Yes, it is.

VICTORY!

I'm just worried that the Dems will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory after 1/20/09.

I'm sure the Iraqi's are concerned about that, as well. Probably why they want to wrap things up with this administration. Barry gets in office and all bets are off, could be a 2 steps forward, 10 steps back scenario.

We have to have victory before Obama takes office or the media will give him all the credit.

The MSM will give O the credit anyway.

re: #15 MrSnuggles

We have to have victory before Obama takes office or the media will give him all the credit.

Oh, I'm sure that they will, regardless. Gak!

I won't believe we've won until Obama tells me we've won and then I'll give him the credit.
/

Will the whole issue of victory or defeat in Iraq hurt too many feelings?

How will this effect Michelle's children?

///

Prresident Bush should ask Michael Yon if he can read Miks's report on the weekly radio address or better yet, he should go on tv and announce it, we need to have the victory before Obama is the president incharge, or he will want to take the credit for winning something that he was always aginst, i just simpley will not be able to take that, were will it end, arrrrgggggggggggggg

Bush/Cheney need to get out in public and discuss. Wishful thinking?

Judgment!

Mr. O. had the proper Judgment....don't you see?

/

Who will tell the President-elect?
Oh, and another thing...
Who'll Cause Obama's First 3 a.m. Call?

bosforus

I just realized what your avatar is - it's a bumble!

re: #20 rawmuse

How will this effect Michelle's children?

///

They don't have a Saddam/Oday/Qusai to deal with in their future.

re: #20 rawmuse

How will this effect Michelle's children?

///

Peace breaks out in Iraq; women and minorities hardest hit.

Got me to make a blog entry for zombie, after not posting for 4 months at all, and barely for the six months before that.

re: #26 Russkilitlover

Wasn't it Qusai who used to prey on the school girls?
spit

re: #26 Russkilitlover

They don't have a Saddam/Oday/Qusai to deal with in their future.

thank goodness (as in the US military) for that, I would not wish those three - specially those boyz- on any one let alone two darling little girls

Our military: AINT NO ONE BETTER!

Wow, What a glorious word to be able to say for Iraq and the US.
VICTORY !

re: #25 gmsc

bosforus

I just realized what your avatar is - it's a bumble!

Well geesh, it's about time! I'm thinking about changing it now to the dad from A Christmas Story with the quote - Bumpus' dogs! or - Not a finger!

So, we won't be seeing Gay Marriage in Iraq anytime soon?

How about man/goat marriage?

re: #29 Pvt Bin Jammin

Wasn't it Qusai who used to prey on the school girls?
spit

Remember Saddam (don't spell it backwards class) had two sons. One fed living human beings into a wood chipper. The other was the one that they called crazy.

Last thread:
I just watched the whatgotobamaelected video: not a shocka

re: #34 DesertSage

So, we won't be seeing Gay Marriage in Iraq anytime soon?

How about man/goat marriage?

Smack!

I took my dad to the Golden Corral free veteran's dinner thing tonight. Very few WW2 veterans there. Of course, it's such a mob I can hardly blame older people from staying away. The food selection is okay after their big remodel, but their dessert line is still ass. They just don't care about dessert.

Anybody see the Jeff Dunham christmas special last night? Good stuff with Achmed the dead terrorist

re: #38 Salem

I took my dad to the Golden Corral free veteran's dinner thing tonight. Very few WW2 veterans there. Of course, it's such a mob I can hardly blame older people from staying away. The food selection is okay after their big remodel, but their dessert line is still ass. They just don't care about dessert.

Dumb Question: What is the Golden Corral?

re: #35 lifeofthemind

Right. I seem to remember that one of the son's used to pick up teenage school girls and force them to go with him. I believe it was the brother who was disabled.

Will Obama have the balls to hold a parade in DC when the troops come home?

re: #39 srb1976

Anybody see the Jeff Dunham christmas special last night? Good stuff with Achmed the dead terrorist

Is it up on YouTube?

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

Dumb Question: What is the Golden Corral?

Turn right at the Silver Spur...

re: #38 Salem

I took my dad to the Golden Corral free veteran's dinner thing tonight. Very few WW2 veterans there. Of course, it's such a mob I can hardly blame older people from staying away. The food selection is okay after their big remodel, but their dessert line is still ass. They just don't care about dessert.

You are a good son ...

Obama's only uses the word VICTORY in the context of November 4. God would have to perform a modern day political miracle for Obama to use the words Victory and War in the same sentence.

As for the other historical events on 11/22, what % of the current population was alive when JFK was president? Pick any day in the calendar, there is probably plenty of history on the same date.

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Will Obama have the balls to hold a parade in DC when the troops come home?

No, he would never do that. His radical friends would go crazier than they already are.

re: #36 Wishing

Last thread:
I just watched the whatgotobamaelected video: not a shocka

At #694 - taxfreekiller. Good vid.

re: #38 Salem

Tell your Dad thanks for me. Tell him that we are all standing on his shoulders.

re: #48 Noam Sayin'

At #694 - taxfreekiller. Good vid.

Thanks Noam, you are a sweety!

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

Dumb Question: What is the Golden Corral?

Mego-buffet. I thought there was one everywhere...

Finally! Somebody had to say it.

re: #45 JacksonTn

You are a good son ...

Not so much. But thanks...

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

Is it up on YouTube?

Wow, i dunno...have to look...think this is it...never linked anything here before...hope it works
achmed's song

But our leaders are telling us we are losing this war.

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

I lived in Arlington when they held a parade for the first Gulf War victory. The flight path of the planes for the parade circled right over our apartment. It was really impressive. Those damn stealth planes don't look like they belong in the air.

Sounds like a great idea, Zombie. Get ready to celebrate, everyone!

re: #49 rawmuse

Tell your Dad thanks for me. Tell him that we are all standing on his shoulders.

That's cool. Thanks, man.

re: #51 Salem

Mego-buffet. I thought there was one everywhere...

Sadly not, at least not here in WA.

G'Nite All!

I am so proud of all who served in this war. I truly believe this was a great American victory, not to mention a point at which future generations of Iraqis will see as a pivotal moment in their long history.

I knew many proud and patriotic Iraqis who served beside those who wore the uniform of the United States, knowing they had a chance to fight for the free and safe future of their country.

I shall never forget them, nor those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Let us all hope that the next administration will give the veterans of this war the honor that is due them, and try not to hog all of the glory for themselves.

It would be a sad thing if the incoming president somehow (with media complicity) turned this obvious military victory into a political "look how great I am, all I have to do is assume the office, and we win" moment.

God Bless the Troops.

Now on to Afghanistan and every other outpost they defend.

They are volunteers, Patriots, and the finest military the planet has ever known.

Please visit the following 2 links:

To obtain military mailing addresses to send needed items to the troops (just reading the lists of stuff they are requesting is touching):
[Link: www.anysoldier.com...]

If you live in the BWI area, this group welcomes the troops home when they step off the plane:
[Link: www.operationwelcomehomemd.org...]

I've chipped in with both. It's the VERY least I can do.

This kind of thing makes Victory possible;

Victory makes this kind of thing possible.

_{(Not that you would hear about this in the Quisling MSM:)}

Marine saves drowning child

Default response #6:
"War has no victors, only losers."
/

I bet Saddam will give UN Weapons Inspectors free access to anything they wish to see now. Saddam? Saddam? Where did he get to?

Too bad the day will never get the attention and appreciation it deserves.

We can help though, Spread the word!

VI Day!

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Will Obama have the balls to hold a parade in DC when the troops come home?

Silly Killgore, parades are for victories. Can't have that with Obama in office.

I'm concerned the Dems will manage to f**k up the progress in Iraq and we'll either be watching another democrat-sponsored blood bath or end up starting over.

Oh. And Muqtada al Sadr needs to have something nasty happen to him.

Not zombie's usual sort of post.

But it's perfect, and absolutely true.

re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin

Right. I seem to remember that one of the son's used to pick up teenage school girls and force them to go with him. I believe it was the brother who was disabled.

Same one I think that got to have his own private Olympics team to torture. Sick f***s needed killing. The war was and is something to be proud of.

re: #59 FurryOldGuyJeans

Sadly not, at least not here in WA.

They have a free dinner for vets every year. Gary Sinise is one of the promoters.

Victory in Iraq ---

I kinda like the way it sounds . .

Congrats and a heartfelt THANK YOU to our troops. They accomplished something no other citizen can claim.

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Will Obama have the balls to hold a parade in DC when the troops come home?

No.

That would be a triumph beyond hope.

Let's just hope the Iraqis don't blow it.

Zombie, solid. I'm with you. You're right - we've won. And you're right - no one but us to declare it.

I predict that any fanfare for our noble troops after 1/20/09 will be muted and "yeah butted" throughout the media. It will be along the lines of "Well, we sort of won, but at what great cost to the Iraqi people." American imperialism will be discussed and found wanting and then everything will fizzle and fade.

re: #59 FurryOldGuyJeans

Sadly not, at least not here in WA.

There is at least one Golden Corral in WA state. Where are you from?

re: #64 David IV of Georgia

Saddam? Saddam? Where did he get to?

Long drop, short rope. Good riddance.

re: #68 Dianna

Not zombie's usual sort of post.

But it's perfect, and absolutely true.

Well it may take a while before a Folsom Street Faire makes it to Baghdad!
///

Thanks to all who went, and those who waited behind them. You did a damned fine job, let none say you did not.

re: #75 psyop

There is at least one Golden Corral in WA state. Where are you from?

Not anywhere near Seattle that I could find (south of Tacoma actually).

re: #63 Ojoe

This kind of thing makes Victory possible;

Victory makes this kind of thing possible.

_{(Not that you would hear about this in the Quisling MSM:)}

Marine saves drowning child

From Niceville, some stories are true, where is Frank Capra?

I think the photos tell it all! What great shots. I love our military men and women! They are the best!

re: #1 DesertSage

We won, how is that possible?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

God - what a disgusting son of a bitch!

Iam so proud of all the men and women in uniform who have served and won this war and helped the Iraqi people. I know from things i have see here,like a statue of a little iraqi girl comforting a U.S Marine and one of President Bush, that the Iraqi people know and appreciate this victory too. Spread the word - November 22 , 2009 Iraq Victory Day wear purple and carry a U.S flag or something!

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans

The one that I am absolutely sure of is in Marysville.

Default response #12:

"Quagmire!"

/Oh it's not? Aidem Maertsniam promised it would be.

My son is going to demand to be deployed to Chicago -

Never fail to remind people that thought that this war was wrong that they would have condemned the Iraqi people to lives of subjugation, with Saddam and his 2 wretched sons throwing people in to shredders and filling mass graves to this day. To this very day, they would still be doing that.

Liberation has meaning.

I like this quote from Zombie's post:

We won. The Iraq War is over.

/has a nice ring to it..

::thinks about quote as a bumper sticker::

re: #86 legalpad

My son is going to demand to be deployed to Chicago -

ha, I love your son, he must be a Marine

re: #88 jetprop

I like this quote from Zombie's post:

/has a nice ring to it..

::thinks about quote as a bumper sticker::

I'd buy one.

re: #69 lifeofthemind

Same one I think that got to have his own private Olympics team to torture. Sick f***s needed killing. The war was and is something to be proud of.

I think it was the same one. Good riddance to the lot of them.

The media will not get behind this victory yet, but in the end they will have to. There's a follow on conflict you see in Afghanistan. If they let this go to hell in a handbasket then it makes their guy's job much harder in Afghanistan.

We might even see some actual movies about the war where the troops are heroes out of Hollywood a couple years down the road. It's not going to happen right now though.

In honor of VI Day, I'm switching to my "Incoming!" Baby icon

re: #80 lifeofthemind

From Niceville, some stories are true, where is Frank Capra?

He is from Niceville...the kid is from Karmah. It is Kismet.

Evening Lizards from snowy SW MI.
I sometimes wonder (as my nic might suggest) how much taqiyya is going on with all the smiling in the pics I see, of our troops (heavily armored still, if that has anything to do with anything), walking, playing, and mingling with folks. That smile on the older gentleman sure looks genuine. Like he does indeed consider this armored infidel next to him, in his heart of hearts, a genuine friend, or at least a protector that he is grateful for. Can he, truly, according to his book, consider this westerner, this kuffar, a friend? Or is this a national act, like the phakestinian national act in reverse? Like, we smile and thank you (for the arms, mucho financial aid,much more to be wheedled out of you westerners' dhimmi jizya coffers later, and for the training...)

But the kids? Palestinian kids are, we know good and well, taught various taqiyya-related, and other, worse things from age 0, but what about Iraqi kids? The ones who surely MUST be showing us genuine friendship, right?

Like I said, the smiles sure do look like philios, a brotherly love. I hope it is, while still I wonder.
-Taq

re: #89 bcgirl

your son is one Brave SOB --must be a Marine.

I wouldn't take an assignment there. I try not to come within 40 miles of it.

re: #93 jcbunga

In honor of VI Day, I'm switching to my "Incoming!" Baby icon

Oh my! That is indescribably awesome....love it

re: #95 Taqiyyotomist

I whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant snow! Real snow, the kind that sticks to the tree branchs and makes good snowballs.

re: #89 bcgirl

ha, I love your son, he must be a Marine

His roommate in college is a Marine (great guy) - my son is 1st Calvary, just redeployed to Iraq

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not anywhere near Seattle that I could find (south of Tacoma actually).

Strange, went to goldencorral.net and entered my zipcode in the restaurant locator (main page, bottom of lefthand menu setup), and was told no locations in the state. Retried on the locator page with a city and state (no zipcode) and three locations showed up, all 3 on the other side of the mountains.

woohoo! 11/22/2008 VI Day! shout out to the fellas and gals out there on their 1st, 2nd and 3rd tours. way to go, and thank you for winning!

re: #98 ggt

Oh, we gots the snowball snow. It's the wet, heavy stuff. The type that makes you feel like John Henry when you're shovelling.

re: #94 Wishing

He is from Niceville...the kid is from Karmah. It is Kismet.

DING DING DING
Rotating title nominee!

11/04/2008: IV Day
11/22/2008: VI Day

The First President of Iraq under a democratic government thanked the United States at a joint session of Congress and he provides an optimistic speech about the state of Iraq at the UN here.

VICTORY!

re: #100 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same thing here. Four locations in AR, but when using my zip it says none in the state. Guess something done broke. ;)

re: #96 ggt

your son is one Brave SOB --must be a Marine.

I wouldn't take an assignment there. I try not to come within 40 miles of it.

oh not my son, I was responding to another lizard mom, HER son must be a Marine!

re: #99 legalpad

His roommate in college is a Marine (great guy) - my son is 1st Calvary, just redeployed to Iraq

well Your son is also my hero! is the 1st Calvary the Big Red One?

re: #87 rawmuse

Never fail to remind people that thought that this war was wrong that they would have condemned the Iraqi people to lives of subjugation, with Saddam and his 2 wretched sons throwing people in to shredders and filling mass graves to this day. To this very day, they would still be doing that.

Liberation has meaning.

Amazing how they always forget that little fact. Saddam was running that place like his private torture chamber, raping and looting the entire wealth of his people. He corrupted the spineless weasels in the UN, most of the Upper Management in France and Russia....Do they really think things would be better for the Iraqis today, if we sat by and did nothing? They are free and building a society. It is far from perfect and old hatreds may never be overcome, but Iraq today is 10000000000% better than the Iraq of Saddam and the no-fly zone and the UN Sanctions.

That is one point I will never forget - which side the Democrats were on during this war.....the WRONG side, as usual.

I don't mean to be too dour, but, in addendum to my previous post, and in the same vein, I wonder too: if there were war against Israel, and we (and we damn well better be) are defending Israel alongside her brave troops, which side would Iraq's troops be on, with all their new skills and toys...?

I think this question is somewhat important.

I'm sorry all y'all - but I'm confused about this. Aside from picking a horrible date (the date that President John F. Kennedy was murdered) does this mean that American troops will be withdrawn from Iraq on November 23rd - perhaps to be redeployed to Afghanistan or simply brought home?
And while I do believe that we have won in Iraq, I'm not all that sure that the war there is completely over and it's a tad unusual, to say the least, for some of the citizens of the nation to determine that a war is over and Victory is at hand when the President of the United States and Commander in Chief hasn't said so. And at the link Charles provided it states "I declare November 22, 2008 to be "Victory in Iraq Day." (Hereafter known as "VI Day.") " but it is unsigned by anyone.
Moreover, LGF isn't on the official list of blogs that have so far agreed to mark VI Day on November 22, 2008.

re: #87 rawmuse

Never fail to remind people that thought that this war was wrong that they would have condemned the Iraqi people to lives of subjugation, with Saddam and his 2 wretched sons throwing people in to shredders and filling mass graves to this day. To this very day, they would still be doing that.

Liberation has meaning.

Why use a word that brings pride to America like "liberation" when we can purge our guilt with the word "invasion"? Screw liberals.

re: #108 bcgirl

well Your son is also my hero! is the 1st Calvary the Big Red One?

No, that's 1st Infantry. But my son got to shoot 'em up with the 1st Cavalry back in '04 based in camp War Eagle. He loved Baghdad.

Send it to the newspapers and other outlets! /// (They won't print it- commie scum)

re: #110 Taqiyyotomist

I don't mean to be too dour, but, in addendum to my previous post, and in the same vein, I wonder too: if there were war against Israel, and we (and we damn well better be) are defending Israel alongside her brave troops, which side would Iraq's troops be on, with all their new skills and toys...?

I think this question is somewhat important.

Neutrality would be the best I'd hope for.

re: #111 realwest

Moreover, LGF isn't on the official list of blogs that have so far agreed to mark VI Day on November 22, 2008.

I was gonna bring that up, too. There are no teeth in this thing, it is symbolic, no officiality.

re: #102 Taqiyyotomist

Oh, we gots the snowball snow. It's the wet, heavy stuff. The type that makes you feel like John Henry when you're shovelling.

John Henry was a steel-driving man. He didn't shovel. He hammered.

re: #109 Desert Dog

Amazing how they always forget that little fact. Saddam was running that place like his private torture chamber, raping and looting the entire wealth of his people. He corrupted the spineless weasels in the UN, most of the Upper Management in France and Russia....Do they really think things would be better for the Iraqis today, if we sat by and did nothing? They are free and building a society. It is far from perfect and old hatreds may never be overcome, but Iraq today is 10000000000% better than the Iraq of Saddam and the no-fly zone and the UN Sanctions.

That is one point I will never forget - which side the Democrats were on during this war.....the WRONG side, as usual.

BO and the demonrats might like the date- hey his terrorist pals in the book they wrote- Prairie Fire- had it dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan who assassinated Bobby Kennedy.

re: #116 Taqiyyotomist

officiality...

Or officiousness, something. Officicacity.

re: #111 realwest
Aside from picking a horrible date (the date that President John F. Kennedy was murdered) ....

I have to admit, the date choice bothered me as well.
Any other day but that one, please.

This has
...no gravitas...
Sorry, I'll stop. :)

re: #93 jcbunga

Very funny!

well thank him kindly for me and someday i plan to visit baghdad as a tourist, lots of cool history, ancient and now recent - plus i am a desert rat and some of the pictures i have seen are pretty cool, hey if Kenya can already be ramping up their tourist inddustry what with the leader of the world, i mean US, being born there.....

re: #113 legalpad

No, that's 1st Infantry. But my son got to shoot 'em up with the 1st Cavalry back in '04 based in camp War Eagle. He loved Baghdad.

re: #121 Wishing Well I wouldn't mind victory in Afghanistan being declared on 9/11, except, of course, Obama's gonna be President then.
But I do truly think that picking the day that John F. Kennedy was murdered is just a horrible, horrible choice.
How's about November 21?!

re: #63 Ojoe

This kind of thing makes Victory possible;

Victory makes this kind of thing possible.

_{(Not that you would hear about this in the Quisling MSM:)}

Marine saves drowning child

"You guys are the Marine's doctors; There's no better in the business than a Navy Corpsman...."

Chesty Puller

Kennedy's assassination happened while I was just over a month old. It means nothing to me.

VI Day means a great deal to me. It's like November 9th, which I still commemorate, privately.

I'd rather remember days when good triumphed.

re: #124 bcgirl

I'll pass it on! "bc" - is that British Columbia?

I was just a kid when JFK was killed, but it affected me deeply. I even sent a sympathy card to Jackie, and yes, she wrote back (tho only a form note, really).
In my eyes, that day is just not to be tampered with in any way, or diminished.

..and yes, I still have the note.

re: #7 Pastorius

Who chose that date?

That's the date of the Kennedy Assassination.

It's kind of like choosing Pearl Harbor Day or 9/11.

It is also Charles DeGaulle's birthday (1890).
British writers Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis both died on November 22,1963, the very day of the Kennedy assassination.

re: #127 Dianna

Kennedy's assassination happened while I was just over a month old. It means nothing to me.

VI Day means a great deal to me. It's like November 9th, which I still commemorate, privately.

I'd rather remember days when good triumphed.

like April 9th - 21 days to Baghdad

re: #110 Taqiyyotomist

I don't mean to be too dour, but, in addendum to my previous post, and in the same vein, I wonder too: if there were war against Israel, and we (and we damn well better be) are defending Israel alongside her brave troops, which side would Iraq's troops be on, with all their new skills and toys...?

I think this question is somewhat important.

After the last 8 years of the Left totally dissing the Iraq War, I think those of us who supported our country's participation and the military, deserve a chance to celebrate!

Yes, there are questions about which side Iraq's troops will be on in the future. The Middle East is a brewing pot of deceit, but I think we can celebrate a victory without compromising our position.

Well, here's something else that makes November 22 noteworthy...in 2005 The One gave a speech entitled "Moving Forward In Iraq"..some of the pained nuance includes the following example of backbone and vision--

"We must find the right balance - offering enough security to serve as a buffer and carry out a targeted, effective counter-insurgency strategy, but not so much of a presence that we serve as an aggravation. It is this balance that will be critical to finding our way forward."

How about JUST WIN, BABY! ?

How about NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VICTORY! ?

F-ing hand-ringer

[Link: obama.senate.gov...]

Not to long after the coalition of the brave and honorable entered Iraq... (and we must pay respects to those nations that did go in with OUR brave and honorable)...We with great assistance from The Brits celebrated Victory in Libya.

That's a fact...because all that Muammar al-Qadhafi had, is sitting 50 miles away from me, in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. That AND the "yellowcake" that according to some, Saddam did NOT have.

This fact seems to have gone down the memory hole, thanks to our Pravda's.

re: #95 Taqiyyotomist

Evening Lizards from snowy SW MI.
I sometimes wonder (as my nic might suggest) how much taqiyya is going on with all the smiling in the pics I see, of our troops (heavily armored still, if that has anything to do with anything), walking, playing, and mingling with folks. That smile on the older gentleman sure looks genuine. Like he does indeed consider this armored infidel next to him, in his heart of hearts, a genuine friend, or at least a protector that he is grateful for. Can he, truly, according to his book, consider this westerner, this kuffar, a friend? Or is this a national act, like the phakestinian national act in reverse? Like, we smile and thank you (for the arms, mucho financial aid,much more to be wheedled out of you westerners' dhimmi jizya coffers later, and for the training...)

But the kids? Palestinian kids are, we know good and well, taught various taqiyya-related, and other, worse things from age 0, but what about Iraqi kids? The ones who surely MUST be showing us genuine friendship, right?

Like I said, the smiles sure do look like philios, a brotherly love. I hope it is, while still I wonder.
-Taq

Just a couple of quick points.

Body armor is still worn for two reasons:
1. Because no one is allowed out of the wire without it.
2. Because you don't need it for the hundreds of times things are great, but the one time an IED blows your truck up. Unfortunately, there is no predicting that one time, so you just always wear it.

What do those tribal elders and civic leaders want:
Sure, there are those who smile at you and seek to deceive, but the vast majority of political, religious and community leaders want the same thing every society wants. To live in peace, raise their families with relative safety and enjoy life a little. Iraq is actually much more cosmopolitan than other majority Islamic countries (like the Kingdom of Saud, for example), and you can find many with whom you can relate to on familiar levels (sports, music, good looking women) despite their religion.

What about those kids:
The kids are the easiest. They are absolutely great (for the most part, there are a few knuckleheads), and instinctively knew the difference between the terrorists who blew them up and threatened their families, and the Americans and Iraqi patriots who protected them (often with their lives), and sought to improve their standard of living. I love those kids. As I watched the multitude vote in Mosul in 2005, many were old. They told us that they voted not for themselves, it was to late for them. They voted so their children would live in freedom, and in peace.

re: #128 legalpad

I'll pass it on! "bc" - is that British Columbia?

thanks, nope bc, Boulder City, Nevada, the desert

All credit to our heroic military, as much as they may protest being called heroic.

They kicked ass and took names, and the world is a safer place due to their valor.

And gentlemen in England now abed
Will think themserves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks
Who fought with us upon St. Crispin's Day.

re: #133 Hobbes

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm psyched, as well. If I had a bumper, I'd love to get a "We Won the Iraq War" sticker! Or a tee shirt, if it weren't winter. The sweet glares I'd get. Well, around here the response would be 50/50 I think.

re: #139 Taqiyyotomist

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm psyched, as well. If I had a bumper, I'd love to get a "We Won the Iraq War" sticker! Or a tee shirt, if it weren't winter. The sweet glares I'd get. Well, around here the response would be 50/50 I think.

"By the way, Che is still dead" would be perfect right under it.

Good night lizards. Sleep well.

re: #75 psyop

There is at least one Golden Corral in WA state. Where are you from?

Its in Marysville, at least the one I know of.

Worst setback for liberals since the Rosenbergs were executed.....

Biggest defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.......

re: #140 shiplord kirel

"By the way, Che is still dead" would be perfect right under it.

Better to have a car which is already pre-vandalized, and heavily. heh.

re: #139 Taqiyyotomist

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm psyched, as well. If I had a bumper, I'd love to get a "We Won the Iraq War" sticker! Or a tee shirt, if it weren't winter. The sweet glares I'd get. Well, around here the response would be 50/50 I think.

Fair enough. Guess I'm a bit sensitive. Hasn't been much to celebrate lately.

re: #138 Steffan

All credit to our heroic military, as much as they may protest being called heroic.

They kicked ass and took names, and the world is a safer place due to their valor.

Without a doubt, the US Military showed itself to be the finest, best trained, bravest and most honorable military in the world once again. God Bless all you...for your sacrifices and service, the free people of the world owe you an unrepayable debt.

My skepticism is growing on the Victory in Iraq Day. Yes on the lousy date observation. No on the idea that Bush/Cheney would say anything about it. Haven't we had "Mission Accomplished" thrown in our faces all this time? Nobody's going to go anywhere near a reminder of that. I don't believe Nov 22 is premature, and the idea behind it is solid, yet is it of any importance to question the mysterious "I" who declares this victory?

re: #116 Taqiyyotomist

I was gonna bring that up, too. There are no teeth in this thing, it is symbolic, no officiality.

The Received Wisdom cherished by many Obamabots (including large portions of the MSM), namely that Bush's Iraq policy has been an "unmitigated disaster," is also entirely unofficial -- yet it has had sharp teeth, wouldn't you say?

I'll definitely be celebrating VI day! I doubt I can get very many of my friends to join me, but I'll try.

I'm actually stumped as to how I managed to get so many liberal friends, especially here in Tennessee.

re: #149 Ekcole

What part of TN? I have friends in Murfreesboro and they're whining to me to come visit them again!

re: #145 Hobbes

I'm also celebrating another victory for the Republic, namely yet another peaceful transition of power. There aren't many countries who can boast as many as we've managed. We don't do that Ceasar shit like a lot of nations do it.

re: #127 Dianna
JFK's assasination means nothing to you because you were only a month old? That may be the coldest thing I've ever seen you write out here.
I was 17 years old and it's a national trauma I could NEVER forget.
I guess it's too bad we can't just re-write history when it suits us. Ya know, like December 7th? September 11th?

Maybe when President Obama gets on TV for the first time and looks into that Camera and starts telling the citizens of the USA that the Iraq war was a lost cause and an unmitigated disaster, perhaps he should go ask a few Iraqis and see if they share his opinion. Or, even better, go ask one of our brave troops who actually served over there if they think all they gave was for nothing...

re: #149 Ekcole

I'll definitely be celebrating VI day! I doubt I can get very many of my friends to join me, but I'll try.

I'm actually stumped as to how I managed to get so many liberal friends, especially here in Tennessee.

If you're near Barnett, let me know.

My brother moved there, with his wife and three kids. Trust me, they're not liberals.

Norm picked up nine votes today. He'll by up by 215 when the election is certified tomorrow (unless Franken succeeds in stopping the certification so he can get his rejected absentee ballots in).

/recount scheduled to start Wednesday

re: #152 realwest

JFK's assasination means nothing to you because you were only a month old? That may be the coldest thing I've ever seen you write out here.
I was 17 years old and it's a national trauma I could NEVER forget.
I guess it's too bad we can't just re-write history when it suits us. Ya know, like December 7th? September 11th?

I pointed out in an earlier thread that Kennedy was a veteran, knew that talk could not solve everything, and pushed our involvement in Vietnam to stop communism in a way somewhat analogous to W's attempt to stop Islamofascism in Iraq. Unfortunately, we will never know what might have been had Kennedy lived, but he was a staunch defender of American values, and I do not think he would have been irritated by seeing the celebration of a victory for freedom supercede the tragic occasion of his death.

re: #155 Killian Bundy

BS votes or not, that is one close race.....whew....I hope Coleman hangs in there because the thought of "Senator Al Franken" makes me want to puke. There is not a word in the English language that describes the hatred I have for that "man".

re: #110 Taqiyyotomist

I don't mean to be too dour, but, in addendum to my previous post, and in the same vein, I wonder too: if there were war against Israel, and we (and we damn well better be) are defending Israel alongside her brave troops, which side would Iraq's troops be on, with all their new skills and toys...?

I think this question is somewhat important.

I think it would be very important who started the war. If Israel were widely seen as the aggressor, condemned by UN etc., then Iraq would be sympathetic to the Arab side, even if Israel had classical "just cause" arguments based on a long string of rocket barrages coming out of Gaza or Lebanon or whatever before the war heated up.

If the war started with nuclear missiles launched at Israel from Iran, Iraq would be very much wanting to stay way the hell out of it. That kind of a war is scary, and as a non-belligerent with no capability to play in that league you don't want to say or do anything to get yourself drawn in.

If it was something ambiguous, the Iraqi response would probably be ambiguous. Iraq has no armed forces capable of playing a meaningful role in a distant war between technically advanced, decently or even well trained forces such as Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and especially, Israel, can field. They could only make symbolic gestures, and they'd want to be measured and cautious with those.

Iran's nuclear weapons program is bad news. They don't have a raving madman sociopath in charge, so it's possible that they would achieve nuclear capability and then sit on it. But you just never know, and the more nuclear powers there are in the world, the more the risk of somebody going and launching.

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Norm picked up nine votes today. He'll by up by 215 when the election is certified tomorrow (unless Franken succeeds in stopping the certification so he can get his rejected absentee ballots in).

/recount scheduled to start Wednesday

Norm is a pretty good man. How the hell did half the people in you state wake up one day and decide to vote for Al Franken?

Just saying that name makes me throw up a little in my mouth.

re: #148 Throbert McGee

The Received Wisdom cherished by many Obamabots (including large portions of the MSM), namely that Bush's Iraq policy has been an "unmitigated disaster," is also entirely unofficial -- yet it has had sharp teeth, wouldn't you say?

You're right. I guess what I don't see in the way of 'teeth' is wholesale, or even large-scale acceptance of the idea. The MFM sure don't help none*, and on this, are not incredibly likely to jump on board. Ever.

*we Michigan hicks talk that way sometimes, to give our extensive, cornucopious vocabularies a needed rest now and then...

re: #152 realwest

JFK's assasination means nothing to you because you were only a month old? That may be the coldest thing I've ever seen you write out here.
I was 17 years old and it's a national trauma I could NEVER forget.
I guess it's too bad we can't just re-write history when it suits us. Ya know, like December 7th? September 11th?

I'm sorry, rw, I didn't mean to sound cold.

Let me see if I can sort this out a bit better.

I find JFK ambiguous at best; that's my starting place. Lincoln was assassinated on the 14th of April, probably the most disastrous date in all of American history, but no one notices and no one really cares. In comparison, though JFK's assassination was indeed a bad thing, and a national trauma because it was televised, is relegated to a minor incident.

I cannot hold that day sacred; it lays a significance on the day that it cannot bear, in historical terms. The histrionics associated with it don't actually do much for me. I am, of course, very sorry JFK died, and appalled by the fact of assassination. But JFK for me...is not someone I regard with reverence.

Lincoln, though...Lincoln was a profound loss on every possible level.

I don't know if that helps. As I said, I don't mean to be cold, and I certainly don't wish to offend.

re: #151 Taqiyyotomist

I'm also celebrating another victory for the Republic, namely yet another peaceful transition of power. There aren't many countries who can boast as many as we've managed. We don't do that Ceasar shit like a lot of nations do it.

Peaceful perhaps. Hopeful not so much.

Despite the best efforts of the democrats of the Democrats to sabotage the effort and force our troops home in failure, not to mention cause countless of Iraqis to be murdered by the terrorists, we have succeeded. President Bush and out troops Won. Thank You! Words can not express how proud I am and always have been to be an American!

And to the Democrats and media who actively rooted for the terrorists and against our Troops. Fuck you! You never cared about the troops or the United States. You never wanted us to succeed. You put you hatred of President Bush above the lives and efforts of our brave men and women, to fight and even die to free men, women and children they never knew just so they could have chance to experience the freedom we have each and every day. You do not deserve to be a Senator/Rep/anchor/writer or what ever you call yourself, let alone a Wal-Mart cart pusher.

Sincerely,

A always proud American.

re: #158 lostlakehiker

Another wondeful side effect of a nuclear Iran would be all of their neighbors would want some too.....Saudi Arabia with nukes? Syria? Egypt?

Is having this on the anniversary of the JFK assassination wise?

re: #147 Silvergirl

My skepticism is growing on the Victory in Iraq Day. Yes on the lousy date observation. No on the idea that Bush/Cheney would say anything about it. Haven't we had "Mission Accomplished" thrown in our faces all this time? Nobody's going to go anywhere near a reminder of that. I don't believe Nov 22 is premature, and the idea behind it is solid, yet is it of any importance to question the mysterious "I" who declares this victory?

Well, I look at it as just an idea, since American casualties are higher in Chicago, etc. Just a collation of positive data about Iraq - since the MSM would never talk about it. It's certainly not official. The blogger who put this together says he "prefers to remain anonymous." It's just something to talk about.

Ben Stein said he was going to vote for Franken. He contributed to his campaign and said he was a sharp guy who was hard-working and capable.

re: #138 Steffan

All credit to our heroic military, as much as they may protest being called heroic.

They kicked ass and took names, and the world is a safer place due to their valor.

You can have it two ways:
Branagh or
Olivier
The modern senses may prefer Branagh but remember for Olivier it was very real. They had to halt filming while Spitfires engaged German aircraft in a true combat above their heads.

re: #167 Silvergirl

Ben Stein said he was going to vote for Franken. He contributed to his campaign and said he was a sharp guy who was hard-working and capable.

I think he has "devolved" if that is true

re: #167 Silvergirl

Ben Stein said he was going to vote for Franken. He contributed to his campaign and said he was a sharp guy who was hard-working and capable.

Good Grief! What kind of "medicine" is he on?

Here's my prediction about how Barack Obama will handle the rest of the Iraq war. After taking office the talk about Iraq from media will change in subtle manner. The debate will be redrafted and recrafted.
He will rename things that are slated to happen already, release policy statements on them. He'll stick with the plan, and keep some bases there longer than many supporters would want. He will visit, and turn over the last broom closet in some last town in some last province, and declare victory.

He really can't do anything else at this point. If he turns it into defeat, then Afghanistan goes from tough problem to nightmare. It will take a few months to recraft the narrative, and it will take some time before he realizes that's pretty much what he has to do. The bulk of the troops will be out within the 16 months, but that was really going to happen anyway.

He will find reason to maintain an airbase or three for awhile in Iraq.

re: #167 Silvergirl

Ben Stein said he was going to vote for Franken. He contributed to his campaign and said he was a sharp guy who was hard-working and capable.

I won't Ding it but I have a sour taste in my mouth.

re: #167 Silvergirl

Ben Stein said he was going to vote for Franken. He contributed to his campaign and said he was a sharp guy who was hard-working and capable.

Isn't the voting over there yet?

re: #169 Desert Dog

I think he has "devolved" if that is true

Can intelligent design supporters de-evolve, or do they just become un-intelligent design supporters?

re: #166 legalpad

I see your point about a blogger wanting to be anonymous, but it just seems that it's on shaky ground.

Chicago casualties, yes. Look up drunk driving casualties sometime, too. It's astounding when put in perspective of the Iraq War, and nobody lists their names and protests with blood in the street.

re: #148 Throbert McGee

Throbert, You and TNR were being discussed a few threads ago. Wish there was justice in this world.

re: #147 Silvergirl

yet is it of any importance to question the mysterious "I" who declares this victory?

(1) The "I" isn't mysterious, except to the extent that zombie himself/herself is mysterious -- but in any case, the "I" is zombie.

(2) To amplify my point from #148: Zombie possesses exactly the same amount of authority to declare 22 November "Victory in Iraq Day" as Keith Olbermann (for example) has to declare that the war in Iraq has been "an unmitigated disaster." So declares Throbert!

(3) Therefore, if people who think like Olbermann have applauded him for saying that America has failed dismally in Iraq, why should we hesitate to support Zombie in affirming that the U.S. has been (despite the small setbacks) victorious?

re: #171 Thanos

Given the logistical realities of Afghanistan our ability to insert and support more troops there is highly limited. Just how does Obama intend to do this? By ballistic missile?

I know. I was half asleep when I originally heard him on whatever cable news I had on. When I opened both eyes, sure enough, it was Stein, no dream. You can look it up and find all his quotes on it I'm sure.

zombie, I think your first Mudville Gazette link is broken.

re: #175 Silvergirl

I see your point about a blogger wanting to be anonymous, but it just seems that it's on shaky ground.

Chicago casualties, yes. Look up drunk driving casualties sometime, too. It's astounding when put in perspective of the Iraq War, and nobody lists their names and protests with blood in the street.

Of course my point is - it's an interesting article, but it's just some guy giving a perspective - that's it.

I really hate drunks who drive. I have a standing offer to drive anybody who knows me or my kids to pick them up anytime and drive them home.

It's about time

Go America, Iraq, and Kurdistan!

re: #171 Thanos

If he is sensible that is exactly what he will do. It is one thing to talk like he has, it is quite another to act on it......Iraq is stable, he should keep it as it is with a slow, measured withdraw based on what the Generals on the ground recommend.....I HOPE that's what he does

re: #158 lostlakehiker

I think your analysis is probably spot-on.

I'm going absolutely bananas trying to figure out why comments aren't working on zomblog, for people to comment on the post. I know that hundreds of people must be trying, but so far there are still zero comments on the posting about VI Day.

Even I can't make a comment! I simply doesn't appear!

I just quadruple-checked every single setting, in every part of the Dashboard, especially those in the "Discussion" panel, and not a single setting is set to block or prevent comments from being posted. Yet that it was is seemingly happening.

All these boxes are checked "Yes":

Attempt to notify any blogs linked to from the article (slows down posting.)
Allow link notifications from other blogs (pingbacks and trackbacks.)
Allow people to post comments on the article

Is there some hidden "cache" or something like that that is causing the problem? I'm absolutely at my wit's end over this -- I can't figure out what more to do.

ANY help would be appreciated, if anyone out there knows about WordPress.

And yes, this is the latest version (2.6.3), with NO plugins, so no conflicts.

re: #167 Silvergirl

Ben Stein said he was going to vote for Franken. He contributed to his campaign and said he was a sharp guy who was hard-working and capable.

/um, last I checked, Stein doesn't live in Minnesota, how could he vote for Franken?

re: #177 Throbert McGee

More to the point, the "I" is "We, the People!"

WE declare Nov 22 "Victory in Iraq Day!"

WE have the right, the responsibility and the courage to so declare, McGee!

WE are Joe, WE are Zombie!

re: #180 Taqiyyotomist

zombie, I think your first Mudville Gazette link is broken.

Hmmm, I'll check it out

I've still got about 20-30 links I haven't had time to post, at a minimum. This is exploding all over the place. Every time i check my email I get 5 more links to post.

I will state that this date Nov. 22, 2008 is JUST FINE.

Kennedy, the more the facade is removed was not so effin great.
His family will live on in the Obama (may it be short) administration.

Since my son will be in Iraq on the 22nd, what better way for him to celebrate his 4 tours that helped bring about this historic day than to actually be there for that historic day!

DAMN EFFIN PROUD I am

re: #150 Macker

What part of TN? I have friends in Murfreesboro and they're whining to me to come visit them again!

I live in Knoxville, it's a pretty Conservative area. Though, I should've mentioned I'm a yung'n teenager still in High School. That alone should explain a good part of why so many of my friends are liberals. But that's not to say I don't have a fair number of conservative friends, either.

re: #177 Throbert McGee

(1) The "I" isn't mysterious, except to the extent that zombie himself/herself is mysterious -- but in any case, the "I" is zombie.

(2) To amplify my point from #148: Zombie possesses exactly the same amount of authority to declare 22 November "Victory in Iraq Day" as Keith Olbermann (for example) has to declare that the war in Iraq has been "an unmitigated disaster." So declares Throbert!

(3) Therefore, if people who think like Olbermann have applauded him for saying that America has failed dismally in Iraq, why should we hesitate to support Zombie in affirming that the U.S. has been (despite the small setbacks) victorious?

Yay you! Point number two is best.

So what's the celebration going to be? Somebody in the newbies thread said I needed to make him/her a sandwich. Sandwiches all around! Just don't tell me to iron your shirt!

re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin

Right. I seem to remember that one of the son's used to pick up teenage school girls and force them to go with him. I believe it was the brother who was disabled.

Well, he's disabled now.

re: #180 Taqiyyotomist

zombie, I think your first Mudville Gazette link is broken.

Works fine for me.

it's just an odd-looking post over there, a bit hard to decipher, many mini-updates.

re: #189 Nightwatch

I will state that this date Nov. 22, 2008 is JUST FINE.

Kennedy, the more the facade is removed was not so effin great.
His family will live on in the Obama (may it be short) administration.

Since my son will be in Iraq on the 22nd, what better way for him to celebrate his 4 tours that helped bring about this historic day than to actually be there for that historic day!

DAMN EFFIN PROUD I am

God bless your son and thank him ever so much for keeping us safe!

And you should be DAMN EFFIN PROUD!

re: #193 zombie

VI Day merits a podcast by Keith Olderman!

/Later today! :D

Yeppers. It works for me now.

re: #178 lifeofthemind

Given the logistical realities of Afghanistan our ability to insert and support more troops there is highly limited. Just how does Obama intend to do this? By ballistic missile?

The real answer is the same reason he'll find reason to keep bases there a bit longer than he plans right now. Here's a hint: Who in the mideast does not want Iraq to fall into chaos the most? The answer is not Israel, and they have the most influence with Pakistan. The way to Alexander's city will be kept open as long as we want to be there.
The situation in Afghanistan is grim, and it's not winnable in the sense that Iraq was, we have to come up with a different plan, and we are not going to feel as good leaving "the good war" as we will when we finally depart Iraq.

That debate is somewhat shaping up now, NRO has some on it at the tank, and I recommend you visit Abu Muquwama's and Alexander's Ghost to see the latest contrary indicators.

re: #186 Killian Bundy

/um, last I checked, Stein doesn't live in Minnesota, how could he vote for Franken?

Maybe my sleepy brain did dream that part. He may have said he would vote for him. The rest, the contributing and the fact that he praised him as a friend, I stand on.

re: #191 Silvergirl

I will take the sandwich. But no one irons my shirts except me. ;)

/if you want a job done right, do it yourself.

Can anyone here (I hesitate to ask...) post diaries at Kos?
This would be a fun one to write up.

re: #167 Silvergirl

Ben Stein said he was going to vote for Franken. He contributed to his campaign and said he was a sharp guy who was hard-working and capable.

I think I speak for all of here when I say, "Huh?" Must be another Ben Stein. The one I know would rather stick needles in his eyes before giving money to Al Franken. He can't vote for him (not legally anyway) 'cause Stein is a CA resident and not registered to vote in Minnesota.

What is the source of this info? Better not be "The Onion" lest we heap howls of derisive laughter upon you.

re: #200 Taqiyyotomist

Can anyone here (I hesitate to ask...) post diaries at Kos?
This would be a fun one to write up.

I invited lelft-wing blogs to link to the post as well, if merely to provide an excuse for them to whine about "bringing the troops home," or at least just to mock me.

So far, no takers that I am aware of.

re: #185 zombie

I'm going absolutely bananas trying to figure out why comments aren't working on zomblog, for people to comment on the post. I know that hundreds of people must be trying, but so far there are still zero comments on the posting about VI Day.
Hrmm you could give me admin a bit, or I can see if I can figure it out.

First let's see if we can figure it out here, is it a post, or is it a page?

Even I can't make a comment! I simply doesn't appear!

I just quadruple-checked every single setting, in every part of the Dashboard, especially those in the "Discussion" panel, and not a single setting is set to block or prevent comments from being posted. Yet that it was is seemingly happening.

All these boxes are checked "Yes":

Is there some hidden "cache" or something like that that is causing the problem? I'm absolutely at my wit's end over this -- I can't figure out what more to do.

ANY help would be appreciated, if anyone out there knows about WordPress.

And yes, this is the latest version (2.6.3), with NO plugins, so no conflicts.

re: #197 Thanos

It's more "hearts and minds" over there and the Taliban is beating us in that department? What do you think would turn that tide? Building more infrastructure? School? Hospitals? Roads? At some point, we will have to do something with the infamous "Tribal Regions", yes?

re: #204 Desert Dog

At some point, we will have to do something with the infamous "Tribal Regions", yes?

Casinos, man. Casinos.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address Friday, January 20, 1961

Why would this particular date be an indignity to JFK?

re: #204 Desert Dog

It's more "hearts and minds" over there and the Taliban is beating us in that department? What do you think would turn that tide? Building more infrastructure? School? Hospitals? Roads? At some point, we will have to do something with the infamous "Tribal Regions", yes?

The Taliban isn't beating us. It's the abject backwardness and barreness of the country that's beating us. It's not just hearts and minds, only one person has ever won there decisively, and he married some of his commanders into the tribes. A tactic that Bin Laden has used btw.

re: #197 Thanos

There's been some good stuff going over this over at the Belmont Club.

re: #201 calcajun

I think I speak for all of here when I say, "Huh?" Must be another Ben Stein. The one I know would rather stick needles in his eyes before giving money to Al Franken. He can't vote for him (not legally anyway) 'cause Stein is a CA resident and not registered to vote in Minnesota.

What is the source of this info? Better not be "The Onion" lest we heap howls of derisive laughter upon you.

Now I have to work so I won't be the subject of derisive laughter! I just put Ben Stein Al Franken in Google (and was struck for the first time that Franken and Stein were together on one line) and links came up for Fox News, Radio Equalizer, raw story, democratic underground, etc.

I will now attempt a link. Your text to link...

I like the sentiment, but hate the date. My choices for good dates would be January 31, the "purple-finger day", remember? or even better, the end of this year. Taken straight from the pile of pure nosehair-twirling crap that constitutes the Wikipedia entry for "Iraq War":

Due to the expiration of the UN authorization on foreign troops in Iraq, the end of 2008 will mark the end of the Multinational Force in Iraq force with all of the remaining coalition partners withdrawing their armed forces.[239]

Our friends are going home.

re: #208 lifeofthemind

There's been some good stuff going over this over at the Belmont Club.

I might stop by. I haven't got any answers however. The equation changes there with each valley you enter.

Zombie, I don't know how I jacked up my reply, but have you checked your spam queue under "comments" to see if they are getting trapped there?

re: #202 zombie

I invited lelft-wing blogs to link to the post as well, if merely to provide an excuse for them to whine about "bringing the troops home," or at least just to mock me.

So far, no takers that I am aware of.

I take that back:

I think this post from "Patriot Missive" is making fun of me.

I want more of that! C'mon, lefties, where's your anti-American spirit! Set phasers to "mock"!

re: #202 zombie
Zombie - two quick questions cause I know you're busy, but has LGF been added to the blog roll on declaring victory in Iraq and were you the one who wrote "I declare Victory in Iraq"?

re: #204 Desert Dog
Recent intel points to Paki intel helping the Tali make moves against
Coalition Forces, seems our Paki friends are ....not. Which would lend some credence to the Pres. Elect Obama's assertion that we should just bomb them...now about their nukes.....life is like a box of CHOC-LETS.

re: #213 zombie

I take that back:

I think this post from "Patriot Missive" is making fun of me.

I want more of that! C'mon, lefties, where's your anti-American spirit! Set phasers to "mock"!

LOL! Go Zombie! :)

re: #205 Taqiyyotomist

Casinos, man. Casinos.

Brilliant! The all you can eat buffets, the no windows and no clocks.....the "hum" of the slot machines.....the cute cocktail waitresses with the mini skirts.....The Taliban will be too busy countin' da money to be plotting revenge!

re: #213 zombie

Somebody put it up at Digg this morning.

I propose January 20th as V-D Day.

As in, the day we all get f*cked.

re: #209 Silvergirl

Now I have to work so I won't be the subject of derisive laughter! I just put Ben Stein Al Franken in Google (and was struck for the first time that Franken and Stein were together on one line) and links came up for Fox News, Radio Equalizer, raw story, democratic underground, etc.

I will now attempt a link. Your text to link...

Disgusting, disgusting...good work finding the info...but...disgusting, disgusting!

Yet another reason for Americans to hold their head high. I am so proud of our Warfighters. I am grateful and humbled by their service. They are the last examples of true politicians in this world, and should be welcomed home with love and gratitude.

How lucky are we to have them fight for us? Generations of Iraqis will grow up and have reason for the same benediction. Thank you troops, from the bottom of my heart. You are the next greatest generation.

Semper Fidelis
This We'll Defend
Service Before Self
Honor, Courage, Commitment

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Will Obama have the balls to hold a parade in DC when the troops come home?

/He'll be hiding under the bed, quivering. Hope he has a security blanket.

re: #207 Thanos

Our conditions for "victory" are slightly different that previous attempts. We do not want their land, we do not want their natural resources, we do not want any of that.....we do not want to control them....We do offer them something that they are not used too - self-determination.

However, I am not an pessimist by trade, but with Bush Co leaving and Obama Inc. taking over...I am not too excited about our prospects. Hope I am wrong.

re: #209 Silvergirl

Well done. Nothing shows off lizard skills like backing up your story with a linky to the facts. :)

Hey Lizards, I had to go away for a while. What are we talking about now?

Any hatchlings on the bbq yet?

re: #203 Thanos

Hrmm you could give me admin a bit, or I can see if I can figure it out.

First let's see if we can figure it out here, is it a post, or is it a page?

Sorry, can't hand out admin powers. Nothing personal -- just a hard-and-fast rule!

The problem is on any post -- no comments appear on any post, not just this one.

Haven't tried commenting on a page, but I bet no comments there either.

January 20 will be VO day, put that on your calendar.

I think I'll need about a case, by myself.

Goodnight all. Great post, zombie. Tomorrow I'll find some non Right-osphere threads and work that link into some comments.

The problem in Afghanistan is less Afghanistan than Pakistan. The place has limited means of entry. For obvious reasons we cannot count on supplies being shipped in from the North wher the Russians can intervene. We cannot ship in supples from the West where the Iranians are. There is a mediocre route from the South through Kandahar but that is subject to some Iranian pressure and still goes through Pakistan. The best route goes through Pakistan by way of Peshawar and the Khyber Pass to Kabul. If Pakistan falls apart, and right now they cannot secure the route, then it becomes very difficult to sustain any force in Afghanistan.

The obvious solution is to secure the route ourselves but there are three problems with that. First is that the Pakistan has nuclear weapons, which makes us think twice about moving in. Second is that we need far more troops than we have already and despite some talk by Obama we can only assume that US forces will continue to shrink. Finally under the Obama administration any such an idea as starting a new military adventure will be a complete non-starter and not worth talking about.

re: #212 Thanos

Zombie, I don't know how I jacked up my reply, but have you checked your spam queue under "comments" to see if they are getting trapped there?

I don't see a spam queue anywhere. Where would I see it?

Remember that I have NO plugins of any kind -- not even Akismet. (I deleted it, long after the problem had already been extant, thinking that by deleting it I might solve the problem. No such luck.) When the issue is resolved, I'll eventually reinstall Akismet.

re: #214 realwest

Zombie - two quick questions cause I know you're busy, but has LGF been added to the blog roll on declaring victory in Iraq and were you the one who wrote "I declare Victory in Iraq"?

Yes and Yes. LGF added, and I wrote it.

re: #202 zombie

I invited lelft-wing blogs to link to the post as well, if merely to provide an excuse for them to whine about "bringing the troops home," or at least just to mock me.

So far, no takers that I am aware of.

Working on this at Death By 1000 Papercuts.
Libertarian/Conservative

Zombie: on you dashboard there's headings on the far left on tabs, but over on the far right in small text is "settings"

Go there, make sure under General you have this unchecked:
Users must be registered and logged in to comment

Under discussion make sure the box labeled "Before a comment may appear" is unchecked except for the one that says "users must fill out name and email"

re: #219 victor_yugo

I propose January 20th as V-D Day.

As in, the day we all get f*cked.

I want to have my date of birth officially changed to January 19^th, from the 20^th...the day before Hussein's inauguration, so I can say I was born 'before'. This is the first time in my life, since I was a child, that I will not celebrate my birthday.

re: #231 zombie
Thank you.

@zombie:

What font do you use in the arched text? I will try to reproduce it as a fully-scalable vector image.

re: #234 NY Nana

You have to get someone to alter your nirth cirtifikat.

re: #225 ggt

Hey Lizards, I had to go away for a while. What are we talking about now?

Any hatchlings on the bbq yet?

They showed me the bag of briquettes, so I frantically grabbed the info they demanded and offered it up for examination.

re: #237 Taqiyyotomist

You have to get someone to alter your nirth cirtifikat.

LOL

re: #238 Silvergirl

wise, Silvergirl. You may escape the grill.

/did you clean-up your shells?

re: #230 zombie

I don't see a spam queue anywhere. Where would I see it?

Remember that I have NO plugins of any kind -- not even Akismet. (I deleted it, long after the problem had already been extant, thinking that by deleting it I might solve the problem. No such luck.) When the issue is resolved, I'll eventually reinstall Akismet.

On your dashboard you should see "comments", once you click that there are subtabs

re: #233 Thanos

Zombie: on you dashboard there's headings on the far left on tabs, but over on the far right in small text is "settings"

Go there, make sure under General you have this unchecked:
Users must be registered and logged in to comment

Under discussion make sure the box labeled "Before a comment may appear" is unchecked except for the one that says "users must fill out name and email"

Done and done. That was the very first thing. Octuple checked it. As I mentioned:

"I just quadruple-checked every single setting, in every part of the Dashboard, especially those in the "Discussion" panel, and not a single setting is set to block or prevent comments from being posted. Yet that it was is seemingly happening."

The ones you mention are all unchecked.

Besides I can't comment whether logged in or not. Can't even comment as admin!

re: #213 zombie

I take that back:

I think this post from "Patriot Missive" is making fun of me.

I want more of that! C'mon, lefties, where's your anti-American spirit! Set phasers to "mock"!

I wasn't, actually, but could see the confusion. God forbid someone mocks President Bush.

re: #239 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hey PBJ! When you get a chance, could y'all please check your e-mail?

re: #234 NY Nana

I want to have my date of birth officially changed to January 19^th, from the 20^th...the day before Hussein's inauguration, so I can say I was born 'before'. This is the first time in my life, since I was a child, that I will not celebrate my birthday.

Ah, don't do that. Don't let BHO spoil your day! Celebrate by avoiding any mention of him. He'll probably take all of your money, so don't let him take your day too!

Happy Birthday! (Ahead of time.)

re: #238 Silvergirl

They showed me the bag of briquettes, so I frantically grabbed the info they demanded and offered it up for examination.

Just be thankful you weren't shown the secret sauce. THEN you would know you were in trouble.

re: #244 realwest

Checking now.

re: #242 zombie

Thank you Zombie, I am now part of greatness. Believe that until now a total of 5 people have looked at my blog over the last several years.

*Thinks of dusting.

re: #237 Taqiyyotomist

You have to get someone to alter your nirth cirtifikat.

I'll ask a Demonrat. They can alter anything.

re: #236 victor_yugo

@zombie:

What font do you use in the arched text? I will try to reproduce it as a fully-scalable vector image.

I already have it as a fully scalable vector image -- created it in Illustrator. (Using some amaterish fudging, but don't tell anyone that.)

Anyway, the font is "Trajan Pro." Very nice font.

If you create something with it, try to improve on my effort! Including the date would be nice. I also wish I had blog sidebar buttons! No one has submitted those yet.

Go to your comments tab on far left, under that there should be some links in small print that say :

Show All Comments | Awaiting Moderation (0) | Approved

If you have a number after awaiting moderation, click on it and start approving comments

re: #231 zombie

Yes and Yes. LGF added, and I wrote it.

My dear zombie, thank you. It's a marvellous post.

re: #241 Thanos

On your dashboard you should see "comments", once you click that there are subtabs

Full list of visible sub-tabs:

Show All Comments / Awaiting Moderation (0) / Approved

Approve / Mark As Spam / Unapprove / Delete

That's it. No spam queue.

This is entirely off topic, and it's mere boasting. Feel free to ignore it.

I wrote four powerful, moving pages tonight. I just finished re-reading, and they are damned good. I'm surprised, and very pleased. I usually hate my own writing.

Either I am getting tired or my computer is turning into a pumpkin and white mice.

What war could America NOT win, if the obstructionists, the 'peaceniks', the America-hating commies, stay the hell out of the way?

America's greatest enemy comes from within.

re: #243 Ms. Missive

I wasn't, actually, but could see the confusion. God forbid someone mocks President Bush.

Sorry for the misunderstanding! I really couldn't figure out that angle or tone of the post!

re: #249 NY Nana

Ask a Chicago Demonrat --they are the ones that can really do anything.

/raising the dead and all.

re: #251 Thanos

Go to your comments tab on far left, under that there should be some links in small print that say :

Show All Comments | Awaiting Moderation (0) | Approved

If you have a number after awaiting moderation, click on it and start approving comments

Zero comments awaiting moderation. Sorry!

re: #242 zombie

Would you like for some of us to try and comment, to see if it works for us?

re: #253 zombie

Full list of visible sub-tabs:

Show All Comments / Awaiting Moderation (0) / Approved

Approve / Mark As Spam / Unapprove / Delete

That's it. No spam queue.

Dang, I don't have a clue what's happening then.

Under comments do you have a "Comments Status?"
If so check what you are set for under it (might show up only if you have a comments plug in)