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Egyptian Physician Insults Barack Obama

World | Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:05:41 am PST

This is the kind of stuff that might actually turn the far left against Al Qaeda, as Ayman al-Zawahri unleashes a racist tirade against Barack Obama: Al-Qaeda No. 2 Calls Obama Dishonorable ‘House Negro’.

The No. 2 leader in Al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is dishing out criticism and offering a warning to United States President-Elect, Barack Obama. A new audio message has surfaced online where Al-Zawahiri calls Obama a dishonorable man.

According to the SITE Institute, a U.S. organization that monitors Islamic militant groups, Al-Zawahiri said Obama is “the direct opposite of honorable black Americans” like Malcolm X. He also called the President-Elect a “house negro,” a degrading term meaning he serves White people.

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1 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:06:31am

So speaks the dude living in a cave.

2 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:07:06am

Doubt that it will even make the evening news.

3 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:07:58am

And here I thought the Lightworker was going to usher in a new age of peace and tolerance, where a more humble America is loved throughout the world. I am so disillusioned.

4 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:08:54am

re: #2 Bubblehead II

Doubt that it will even make the evening news.

It's already on CNN. At least the online site.

5 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:08:56am

So... are they Caving in yet to the Obamacy? Or are they getting ready to commit Obamacide?

6 bosforus  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:09:38am

I love the "Egyptian Physician" title.

7 Power Armored Lizardoid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:09:58am

He thinks of Malcolm X was an honorable black American? Interesting...

8 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:10:58am

Anything that hints of racism against The One will make the news. Racism trumphs other PC boogymen.

9 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:10:59am

I'm sure Obama will step up to the mic and say "This is not the Al Aqeda I knew..." and then call for talks with Zawahri...

10 bosforus  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:11:34am

I think this might be a headline only because a racial slur was involved. Never mind the significance of who it came from. Just more proof that the world needs Obama to clean the world with charisma and teleprompted speeches.

11 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:11:57am

re: #4 Walter L. Newton

(CNN) -- A purported message from al Qaeda's deputy leader posted on Islamist Web sites on Wednesday told President-elect Barack Obama that "a heavy legacy of failure and crimes awaits you."

Just love the way the way are trying to spin it.

/But he is the one, everyone loves us now.

12 notutopia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:12:14am

"House Slaves"

13 jorline  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:12:29am

Ayman al-Zawahri speaking on behalf of the Right Wing Conspiracy...racist.
//

14 VegasRick  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:12:55am

I didn't vote for obambi but he is now our president and I will support him as such. Screw this POS windbag of hate. The lefties won't know what to say.

15 Drained Brain  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:12:57am

I'd say that the "Far Left" is more likely waiting to see whether that Egyptian physician's description is correct from a "far left" viewpoint. No question there are going to be some expectations not met in the days ahead.

16 lincolntf  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:13:01am

Charles summed up my feelings when he wrote that this might finally turn the Left against Al-Qaeda.
How freakin' sad is it that it takes a racial slur for there to be a possibility that the Loons will actually realize that these psychopathic murderers aren't really good people at heart?

17 Daryl Herbert  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:13:52am

Where do you think Zawahiri learned the term "house negro"?

From Democrats, of course! Talking about Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice.

18 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:13:53am

Pre-emptive surrender might be in order. And we should apologize right now for our oppressing the peace-loving peaceful Religion of Peace folks.

19 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:13:59am

-or- the left will pretzel twist it into some conspiracy that places W. in the center of their eternal mindless hate and blame fest.

20 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:14:32am

The term "House Negro" is actually a badge of honor.

Contrary to ignorant opinion, "House Negros" were the first to leave the plantations. They had no great loyalty to their former masters. Since they had higher education levels, many "House Negoes" became teachers and professionals following emancipation.

21 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:14:40am

I'm confused.

I thought our enemies love us now that we've elected Barack Obama.

Could it be that Dr. Zawahri hasn't yet heard one of President-elect Obama's stirring speaches?

22 Power Armored Lizardoid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:14:49am

Guess I shouldn't be surprised he didn't pick Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., since the last thing these terrorist scumbags want to be judged on is the content of their character...

23 PerfectSense  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:14:50am

Obama - surrender now before you lose all international respect!

24 Woodstock  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:14:50am

Obama is "owned' by George Soros.
Bought and paid for, so it makes sense to me.

It's not often I agree with Al-Qaeda, but this time they are right.

25 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:14:58am
Legacy of failure.

Iraq liberated.

Afghanistan liberated.

I can accept that kind of failure.

26 Thanos  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:15:19am

The lefties and troofers will just take this opportunity to say "See! We told you Bin Laden and Zawahiri are working for BushaliburtonMcChimpyCheney!"

27 notutopia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:15:35am

Al-Zawahiri also says, "The dogs of Afghanistan have found the flesh of your soldiers to be delicious, so send thousands after thousands of them."

Who is the House Slave Al-Zawahiri?
*SPIT*

28 opnion  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:16:34am

OK, OK I know that this looks bad for Al -Qaeda racial attitudes, but I need more.
Now if irrefutable proof surfaces that they are having Minstrel Shows & an Amos & Andy film festival, then I will be suspicious.

29 Thanos  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:16:42am

So will Poliwood and Wackademia, watch for it.

30 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:16:43am

Yeah but we can rely on classy 0 to respond with some statement about camels in al-Zawahri's maternal lineage or something to that effect...//

31 Dave the.....  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:16:56am

lincolntf #16

Charles summed up my feelings when he wrote that this might finally turn the Left against Al-Qaeda.

Some conservative commentators said a year ago (when Hillary was the expected Democrat nominee) that it may not be that bad if she got into office. As that would finally make the left take the WOT seriously. Since 9/11, the Democrats hatred of President Bush was stronger then their fear of Islamoterrorism.

I agreed, but don't agree that the same will happen with Obama. See his Attorney General pick as an example that he doesn't take any crime seriously.

32 mean Gene  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:17:10am

I had a conversation with an Arabic speaking person.
Seems that ''abu'' means both slave AND black in Arabic.
But that's by no means the worst terms for blacks that exist in Arabic.
I wish I'd written them down.
And the doctor's turn against 0bama reminded me of how Jim Jones went from being a darling of the left (up til Nov 17th 30 years ago) to being a right-wing Christian evangelist after Nov 18th thirty years ago.
Yup, the Left turns on a dime.

33 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:17:12am

re: #27 notutopia

I prefer the term "oxygen thief". That not only diagnosis the problem, it implies a solution.

34 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:17:23am

I don't have to like him, but Mr. Obama is MY President-elect. I still own 1/300 millionth of this country. An insult to him is an insult to us all and Mr. Zawahiri, who was already on this country's shit-list before 911, should keep his ignorant miscopulated yap shut lest we turn western Pakistan into 3000 C fireball that will ever shut it.

35 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:17:52am

Well, perhaps the good doctor is concerned about the influence of George Soros and William Ayers on our future president?

36 jorline  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:18:11am

By the looks of the comments over at Infidel Blogger we're all "house slaves" for Charles...does that make us family with the incoming administration?
//

37 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:18:46am

re: #36 jorline

By the looks of the comments over at Infidel Blogger we're all "house slaves" for Charles...does that make us family with the incoming administration?
//

Pretty much like his aunt, I'm sure...

38 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:18:48am

I'm sure we all have lefty friends who thought that the mere act of electing a President who "didn't look like the other Presidents on the dollar bills" would convince Alpha Q to lay down their arms. Where are they at now?

39 notutopia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:19:13am

re: #33 Iron Fist

Anerobics are much more difficult to extinquish.

40 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:19:47am

Does this mean we're invading Pakistan now?

41 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:20:11am

re: #24 Woodstock

Obama is "owned' by George Soros.
Bought and paid for, so it makes sense to me.

It's not often I agree with Al-Qaeda, but this time they are right.

I'll make you a bet WS, you won't get too many people here at LGF to bite on that incendiary remark. Five posts in almost two years, really?

42 Mike in Georgia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:20:18am

I think it's hillar hellir funny.

43 Kawabunga  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:21:17am

The good thing about all of this is now Keith Olbermann will finally be on the side of W when it comes to Al Qaeda.

Ironic.

44 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:21:32am

re: #38 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nobody I know voted for Obama. Not even my sister. How did he get elected?

45 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:21:50am

What a conundrum for islamists & dhimmis- they're so used to calling anti-jihad groups, writers and bloggers "racist" what do they do when it's an islamist being the racist?

46 jaunte  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:21:50am

Pathetic. Consider the world population of those can make videos today,
and post them on the web.
Ayman al-Zawahiri is hidden so far up in the back of beyond,
he can only smuggle out an audio tape.

47 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:21:53am

re: #40 Sharmuta

Does this mean we're invading Pakistan now?

I thought we did that yesterday with their assistance..

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

48 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:22:13am

re: #41 turn

Sockey McSockpuppet?

49 rumcrook  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:22:15am

I just wanna here katie curic say ..."in other news today Ayman al-Zawahri called barack obama a house negro" leading to condemnation from leading democrats that Ayman al-Zawahri is a racist.

50 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:22:15am

re: #32 mean Gene

I had a conversation with an Arabic speaking person.
Seems that ''abu'' means both slave AND black in Arabic.

Actually, the word you're looking for is "abd," not "abu."

51 Crusty  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:22:17am

re: #7 Power Armored Lizardoid

He thinks of Malcolm X was an honorable black American? Interesting...

Especially when you consider this quote from Malcolm X:

"I did many things as a Muslim that I'm sorry for now. I was a zombie then — like all Muslims — I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march. Well, I guess a man's entitled to make a fool of himself if he's ready to pay the cost."

52 zenren  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:22:32am

Wait a second. I thought when we elected BO that world peace was supposed to spontaneously break out and the whole world was supposed to lovingly embrace our country. You mean they still hate us!?

53 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:23:29am

re: #51 Crusty


That is interesting. No wonder Farakhan had him whacked.

54 Cathypop  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:23:37am

And the left will blame this on Bush and Cheney.

55 Outrider  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:23:56am

re: #50 lobo91

Actually, the word you're looking for is "abd," not "abu."

wasn't abu the monkey on Disney's Aladdin?

56 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:23:58am

I'll bet anything that the traitor Adam Gadahn thought up using the phrase "House Negro." I highly doubt that some Islamazoid freak living in the 7th century would know it or what it means in the context of American history and culture, and I also doubt that the "physician" has ever read a word of anything that Malcolm X wrote.

It's pretty rich that this Egyptian, in whose language the word for "black person" is the same as the word for "slave," would presume to talk about "House Negroes" to the first black President of the USA.

I can't wait for the day when this POS stops polluting the planet's air and starts fertilizing the ground (if there's enough of him left to bother burying).

57 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:23:59am

re: #41 turn

Stink bomb thrower.

58 Sean  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:24:01am

re: #41 turn

Ummm...where do you think all thae campaign cash came from? You missed the photos of Soros at The One's soirees for the rich liberals?

59 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:24:43am

re: #52 zenren

We didn't buy the world a Coke® (and weren't those the most annoying commercials ever made?)

60 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:25:17am

re: #36 jorline

By the looks of the comments over at Infidel Blogger we're all "house slaves" for Charles...does that make us family with the incoming administration?
//

ooooo I'm ready for my bailout check! Hey "Shifty" Paulson, I'll stop calling you a criminal if a nice hundred grand shows up in the mailbox.

61 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:25:33am

I don't care who is president, his "house negro" remark really irked me. At the rate we've been taking out top Al Qaeda leaders, I think it's only a matter of time until al-Zawahri meets the smart end of a hellfire missile.

62 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:25:39am

Well. Let us be completely unified as Americans against this Al Qaeda enemy.

House negro my ass.

After the Civil War, when whites died to free their black brothers and sisters, we should be together. We should be together big time, arm in arm, forever.

Here you may see the big picture with great clarity.

For all our faults in this country, we are still the most advanced.

Go USA

63 notutopia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:25:46am

re: #56 Amy

I'd be happy with his carbon remnants in ASH.

64 bosforus  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:26:13am

re: #43 Kawabunga

The good thing about all of this is now Keith Olbermann will finally be on the side of W when it comes to Al Qaeda.

Ironic.

Well it's a good thing Olbermann didn't vote!
/
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Obama.
-Olbermann

65 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:26:19am

re: #48 Iron Fist

Sockey McSockpuppet?


That's my impression.

66 Crusty  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:26:20am

So has Olbermann and Matthews blamed Sarah Palin for inciting Ayman al-Zawahiri's racism to say that yet?

67 vxbush  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:26:21am

Sticks and stones may break my bones but NASTY NAMES ARE THE LAST STRAW!

/

68 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:27:13am

re: #55 Outrider

wasn't abu the monkey on Disney's Aladdin?

Never seen it, so I don't know.

But "abu" is used to mean "father of___" when followed by a boy's name.

69 jorline  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:27:20am

re: #59 Iron Fist

We didn't buy the world a Coke® (and weren't those the most annoying commercials ever made?)

Isn't Afghanistan supplying the world with Coke? Oops...sorry, that heroin.

70 pat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:27:54am

The good Doctor is just overwrought, I am sure he can be calmed down with patience and understanding. Perhaps Billy Ayers can assist in dialog.

71 vxbush  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:27:57am

Yes, the monkey's name was Abu.

/watched it waaaaaay too many times with the son

72 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:03am

re: #60 funky chicken

Don't sell yourself short. Hold out for a million. If they don't shell out, it'll be the worst thing ever to happen in the whole history of the world. Set your inner moonbat free!

73 jorline  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:05am

re: #60 funky chicken

ooooo I'm ready for my bailout check! Hey "Shifty" Paulson, I'll stop calling you a criminal if a nice hundred grand shows up in the mailbox.

waiting...waiting...waiting

74 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:06am

re: #63 notutopia

I'd be happy with his carbon remnants in ASH.

Fine with me, as long as we can identify him by the remains as "not just merely dead, but most sincerely dead."

75 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:10am

re: #58 Sean

Ummm...where do you think all thae campaign cash came from? You missed the photos of Soros at The One's soirees for the rich liberals?


That wasn't the incendiary remark I was referring to.

76 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:17am

re: #30 Right mind left

Yeah but we can rely on classy 0 to respond with some statement about camels in al-Zawahri's maternal lineage or something to that effect...//

sounds good to me. flip him the bird at the same time.

77 Pyrocles  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:20am

I'm no Obama fan, but Obama > Zawahiri.

78 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:28am

Purple mountains majesties; the San Gabriels of California in the morning light of November 19, A.D. 2008. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

"...paradise is all around us and we do not understand."

— Thomas Merton.

Good Morning All.

79 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:28am

Newsflash: Livni wants to win the election and to whup Netanyahu. Hopefully Israelis, and especially secular Jews, will not be seduced by her doublespeak. Remember Israelis, she is Olmert in a skirt!
Livni: Israel Must Remain a (Secular?) Jewish State

80 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:28:39am

re: #44 Iron Fist

Nobody I know voted for Obama. Not even my sister. How did he get elected?

I have a fraud and it's name is Acorn
A C O R N
A C O R N
A C O R N
And Acorn is its name-o

81 jaunte  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:29:13am

The far left may excuse al-Zawahiri for his rant, considering him a victim of the longstanding hegemonistic practices of the U.S. military industrial complex.
He's really a victim too, lashing out in a blind (but perfectly understandable way) at his fellow victim, Barack, a friend and ally he just hasn't yet come to know.
/moonbat off

82 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:29:36am

He just called our president-elect a slave. The most powerful position in the world was just reduced to that of a slave! I don't care who is our president, that is our office, and Dr. Bumpy just called it the lowest of the low. What a fucker.

83 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:29:48am

Gee, insulting the soon to be President of the US. That's sure telling him. It's almost like Zawahiri is egging Obama on just to see if Obama will hit al Qaeda.

Zawahiri has sprung a trap on Obama. If Obama orders strikes, Zawahiri can claim that (1) it's because Obama's a stooge for others; (2) he's vain and can't take being belittled; (3) combination of 1 and 2.

If Obama doesn't continue to respond to al Qaeda with force, Zawahiri sees just how weak Obama is and how a lack of resolve can be exploited in future attacks against US strategic interests worldwide.

In other words, this is a trial balloon to see how Obama will respond.

84 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:30:17am

re: #72 Iron Fist

Don't sell yourself short. Hold out for a million. If they don't shell out, it'll be the worst thing ever to happen in the whole history of the world. Set your inner moonbat free!

It'll be the NEW GREAT DEPRESSION I tells ya.

LOL

85 Wookieelips  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:30:59am

Well, now I am thoroughly confused.

If they keep it up, it could finally unite us all at least on this issue. That would be good.

But damn, freakin' racist doucheguzzling asstards. Shut up, jerks!

86 bosforus  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:31:28am

re: #59 Iron Fist

We didn't buy the world a Coke® (and weren't those the most annoying commercials ever made?)

Always wanted to smash that guy over the head with his guitar. Get a job, hippie!
-couldn't find the new version that i'm referring to on youtube, also didn't realize that commercial/song had such a history

87 J.S.  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:31:44am

re: #32 mean Gene

"abu" means father in Arabic.

88 harrylook  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:32:08am

re: #77 Pyrocles

I'm no Obama fan, but Obama > Zawahiri.

I'll give him that, but that's about all I'll give 0bama.

89 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:32:11am

re: #40 Sharmuta

Does this mean we're invading Pakistan now?

Probably a dare...

90 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:32:13am

re: #82 Sharmuta

He just called our president-elect a slave. The most powerful position in the world was just reduced to that of a slave! I don't care who is our president, that is our office, and Dr. Bumpy just called it the lowest of the low. What a fucker.

Someone here wrote that the word for "negro" and "slave" are the same in Arabic.
True?

91 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:32:27am

re: #83 lawhawk


These sneaky little bastards really are that clever, constantly probing for weaknesses in our leaders and our defenses.

92 Charles  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:32:41am

re: #17 Daryl Herbert

Where do you think Zawahiri learned the term "house negro"?

From Democrats, of course! Talking about Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice.

He probably got it from Harry Belafonte.

93 CharlieBravo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:33:05am

"might actually turn the far left against Al Qaeda"

The left doesn't expect Al Qaeda to be politically correct - all forgiven and forgotten.

94 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:33:09am

re: #90 rawmuse

Someone here wrote that the word for "negro" and "slave" are the same in Arabic.
True?

Yes. Both are "abd".

95 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:33:51am
96 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:33:59am

re: #83 lawhawk

Yup. That's exactly what it is, at least from Zawahiri's point of view as a member of a shame/honor-based culture.

Unfortunately, I doubt that many of those on the short list for Obama's foreign policy team understand such distinctions.

97 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:34:22am

re: #92 Charles

Indeed, al Qaeda has repeatedly shown itself more than willing to use the language and talking points of the left.

98 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:34:22am

re: #90 rawmuse

"Slaves" in arabic is Abid, but I don't know about the other term.

99 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:34:30am

Obama has been called worse things by better people.

100 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:35:02am

re: #44 Iron Fist

Nobody I know voted for Obama. Not even my sister. How did he get elected?

I see dead people.

101 Radar  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:35:22am

Don't underestimate the ability of the Left's Edward Said inspired "Orientalism" to excuse away this scumbags cave ravings.

102 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:35:39am

re: #97 lawhawk

Indeed, al Qaeda has repeatedly shown itself more than willing to use the language and talking points of the left.

Both the far left and Al Qaeda are nihilists IMHO & of course then they sound the same.

103 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:35:41am

re: #79 Spare O'Lake

... Olmert in a skirt!

Thanks for the sickening mental image!

104 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:35:52am

re: #90 rawmuse

Someone here wrote that the word for "negro" and "slave" are the same in Arabic.
True?

It's true, but it's not the word he used.

It's "abd," not "abu."

105 mean Gene  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:35:55am

re: #50 lobo91

Actually, the word you're looking for is "abd," not "abu."

Thanks, it was a long time ago.

106 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:36:21am

re: #90 rawmuse

Someone here wrote that the word for "negro" and "slave" are the same in Arabic.
True?

Yes, true. The word is "abd."
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107 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:36:56am

re: #59 Iron Fist

We didn't buy the world a Coke® (and weren't those the most annoying commercials ever made?)

or teach the world to sing. Agreed

108 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:37:21am

Sorry guys, but I heard this and laughed. I'm not going to get all pissed off that this pathetic excuse for a human being, from his hidey hole somewhere in the miserable mountains of Pakistan, is flinging poo at Obama or anybody else.

The appropriate response is derisive laughter and an eye roll, IMHO.

109 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:37:43am

re: #107 midwestgak

or teach the world to sing. Agreed

LALALALALLAAAA...I don't want that jingle in my head for the next week...LALALALALALALAAAA a hundred bottles of beer on the wall...

110 badger1970  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:38:08am

Really, was this any worst than ex-presidents, congress-critters, the press and other "vip's" (in other words, people who should know better) heaped upon our current president from home and abroad?
*cricket*
Didn't think so. It's water off of a duck's back. Obama will be the president but is not yet the president, which by that time he'll forget ol' "what's that cave dweller's name".

111 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:38:26am
112 3 wood  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:38:46am

re: #66 Crusty

So has Olbermann and Matthews blamed Sarah Palin for inciting Ayman al-Zawahiri's racism to say that yet?

I don't know about that, but over at the cesspool known as HuffPo many of the posters are comparing this to Palin's criticism's of Obama.

Proof positive that many on the left are nuts.

113 AuntAcid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:38:55am

"In other words, this is a trial balloon to see how Obama will respond."

3 response options

"I'll have to get back to you on that."
"I'll have my people call your people."
"Thank you for sharing."

114 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:05am

re: #92 Charles

LOL

115 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:07am

re: #109 Right mind left

99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer,
take one down, pass it around, 98 bottles of beer


who will write the next verse?

Will we get to no bottles?

116 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:11am

re: #74 Amy

Fine with me, as long as we can identify him by the remains as "not just merely dead, but most sincerely dead."

he's not dead. Just mostly dead.

Princes Bride

117 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:15am

re: #111 buzzsawmonkey

We already buy the coke of the world--just ask the Colombian cartels.

Isn't that good enough?

Or Obama?

Maybe Ayers wants all the prisons emptied because his dealer is in there...//

118 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:28am

re: #24 Woodstock

Obama is "owned' by George Soros.
Bought and paid for, so it makes sense to me.

It's not often I agree with Al-Qaeda, but this time they are right.

Woodstock, your words are as upside-down as your flight.

119 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:28am

re: #101 Radar

Oooh, that's a tough one... who's the "Other" in this "discourse"? Is Zawahiri the Other who's legitimate narrative has been oppressed by the racist imperialist American? Or is Obama the "Other" who's American dream narrative has been oppressed by the would-be imperialist Islamofacist Zawahiri?

120 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:33am
121 bosforus  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:39:52am

re: #109 Right mind left

LALALALALLAAAA...I don't want that jingle in my head for the next week...LALALALALALALAAAA a hundred bottles of beer on the wall...

Then try this one. You can use it as your "bush is finally out of office" music or your "here comes obama" music.
If I Only Had a Brain

122 yochanan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:40:15am

Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term "abeed al-beit," which literally translates as "house slaves." But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as "house negroes."

123 3 wood  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:40:28am

Dow is down 190 and is off 1,600 points or 15% from when Obama was elected.

124 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:40:34am

re: #113 AuntAcid

He may also use one of those drones with missiles, don't put it past him.

125 notutopia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:40:41am

re: #90 rawmuse

re: #108 funky chicken

The IMPORTANT issue here, is how will OBAMA, Condi and Powell interpret this
"HOUSE SLAVES" entitlement.
My liver is not quivering yet over this statement but the one he makes about us sending more soldiers for their dogs to eat!
That has me grinding my molars!

126 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:15am

re: #116 midwestgak

he's not dead. Just mostly dead.

Princes Bride

Let's sit and have a glass of wine together...

127 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:17am

re: #108 funky chicken

From your lips to Zawahiri's ears.

Followed by a JDAM.

128 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:21am

re: #113 AuntAcid

I have to add -- point at camera and laugh your ass off. "Good one, dude! How's the amenities in that cave working out for you?"

Muslims HATE mockery.

129 Buck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:31am

Waiting for the left to blame this message on BushCo.

Face it, nothing happens in this world unless the left can blame Bush, the USA, the Joooos or Israel.

130 2senseplain  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:41am

re: #32 mean Gene

abu is "father of", Gene. I think you mean "abd". PIMF.

131 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:43am

re: #83 lawhawk

Gee, insulting the soon to be President of the US. That's sure telling him. It's almost like Zawahiri is egging Obama on just to see if Obama will hit al Qaeda.

Zawahiri has sprung a trap on Obama. If Obama orders strikes, Zawahiri can claim that (1) it's because Obama's a stooge for others; (2) he's vain and can't take being belittled; (3) combination of 1 and 2.

If Obama doesn't continue to respond to al Qaeda with force, Zawahiri sees just how weak Obama is and how a lack of resolve can be exploited in future attacks against US strategic interests worldwide.

In other words, this is a trial balloon to see how Obama will respond.

I see the wily Doctor Camelfukkah's statement as an attempt to drive a wedge between Obama and the Jews, and between black radicals and Obama. If Obama supports Israel then he breaks faith with his black radical supporters and he is an uncle Tom. If Obama throws Israel under the bus then he loses Jewish support.
Either way, Al Qaeda gains something.

132 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:45am

re: #108 funky chicken

I'm not pissed off either but I do believe it was calculated (see #83), and I don't find anything humorous in their deviousness. These are evil people and they shouldn't ever be underestimated however silly they may appear to be IMO.

133 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:46am

re: #122 yochanan

Nice catch!

134 CharlieBravo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:41:54am

re: #120 buzzsawmonkey

You forgot "That's above my pay grade," and "Can't I just finish my waffle?"

Finishing a waffle is above his pay grade. Oops... did I say that?

135 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:42:05am

re: #126 Right mind left

Let's sit and have a glass of wine together...

HAHAHAHAH, HAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHA, dead

Love that movie.

136 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:42:31am

re: #121 bosforus

Then try this one. You can use it as your "bush is finally out of office" music or your "here comes obama" music.
If I Only Had a Brain

I like "not just merely dead, most sincerely dead" better...follow the yellow brick road...

137 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:42:32am

re: #119 Kenneth

LOL

OK, off to do some work.

138 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:42:48am

Sounds just like Harry Belafonte and his leftist crew.

But of course, dissent is patriotic.

And of course, the enemy is listening and learning.

139 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:42:50am

re: #122 yochanan

Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term "abeed al-beit," which literally translates as "house slaves." But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as "house negroes."

Right. And who in al Qaeda would know that loaded phrase if not Gadahn?

140 AuntAcid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:43:03am

re: #109 Right mind left
Try this mind-wipe:
"I'm a pepper, you're a pepper, we're all a pepper too"...

141 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:43:27am

re: #123 3 wood

Dow is down 190 and is off 1,600 points or 15% from when Obama was elected.

It's amazing what threatening to raise capital gains taxes 40% will do.

142 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:43:35am

re: #113 AuntAcid

LOL

143 jaunte  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:43:48am

re: #112 3 wood

...over at the cesspool known as HuffPo...

Some incredible alchemy allows them to turn the Al Qaeda statement into this:


From commenter 'FireW:' "What a surprise. Their religious zealots are racist just like ours are. Yet another confirmation of how the american Taliban are just as nuts as the Islamic militant version. A consequence of letting extreme and psychotic interpretations of the Koran or Buybull do the "thinking" for you . . ."
144 tfc3rid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:44:01am

re: #123 3 wood

Dow is down 190 and is off 1,600 points or 15% from when Obama was elected.

Correlation?

145 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:44:03am

Hey, Zawahiri, why don't you come out of your hiding place and say that directly to our faces? Oh, because you're a damn coward.

146 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:44:20am

re: #140 AuntAcid

Try this mind-wipe:
"I'm a pepper, you're a pepper, we're all a pepper too"...


Wouldn't you like to be a pepper, too?

147 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:44:30am

re: #140 AuntAcid

Try this mind-wipe:
"I'm a pepper, you're a pepper, we're all a pepper too"...

pepper...reminds me of When Harry met Sally...

But, yes, that helped!

148 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:44:43am
149 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:44:44am

re: #140 AuntAcid

Try this mind-wipe:
"I'm a pepper, you're a pepper, we're all a pepper too"...

It's slinky, it's slinky. What a wonderful toy

150 sngnsgt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:44:47am

The left will blame Zawahri's racist rants on war-mongering, racist, American "Reich-Wing" thugs in 5...4...3...2...

/

151 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:16am

re: #120 buzzsawmonkey


finish waffle, Ha!

152 Sean  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:16am

re: #75 turn

I guess I missed it.

153 AuntAcid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:23am

re: #124 Ojoe

He may also use one of those drones with missiles, don't put it past him.

From America with love?

154 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:24am

re: #141 Spiny Norman

It's amazing what threatening to raise capital gains taxes 40% will do.

The DOW reflects future expectations, right?

155 Right mind left  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:43am

re: #149 midwestgak

It's slinky, it's slinky. What a wonderful toy

Oh no, the best slinky scene was in the Ace Ventura...as bad as that movie was...

156 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:45am

re: #144 tfc3rid

Correlation?

Obama and the House Democrats are claiming they are going to raise capital gains taxes by 40%. You do the math.

157 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:52am

re: #108 funky chicken

Sorry guys, but I heard this and laughed. I'm not going to get all pissed off that this pathetic excuse for a human being, from his hidey hole somewhere in the miserable mountains of Pakistan, is flinging poo at Obama or anybody else.
The appropriate response is derisive laughter and an eye roll, IMHO.

The problem is that Obama and/or his minions may not have the character to see it that way.

158 ratherdashing  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:45:52am

First, the term was "abeed al-beit" and means "house slave." It was taken from Malcom X.

Secondly, since some troofers think Bush (et al) are behind 9/11, this release from Zawahri will add fuel to their fire. They'll think this neo-con plant is just reciting from the script to keep the WOT active with the new administration. Who benefits? Halliburton and Cheney and Bush, of course.

[slips out of moonbat mindset to return to reality]

159 Mauser  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:46:13am

re: #7 Power Armored Lizardoid

He thinks of Malcolm X was an honorable black American? Interesting...

Well, Muslims can do no wrong. I guess this is proof that BHO is NOT a muslim.

160 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:46:29am

re: #132 turn

I'm not pissed off either but I do believe it was calculated (see #83), and I don't find anything humorous in their deviousness. These are evil people and they shouldn't ever be underestimated however silly they may appear to be IMO.

This really is a case where they only succeed if anybody gives a damn about their statement. I certainly don't, and I really doubt that Obama does either.

People in this country are way, way to hung up on stupid racial insults. If McCain had won, I'm sure A.Z. would have come out with an audio tape slamming him and the infidel woman Palin. And I would have laughed at that too.

161 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:46:38am

re: #133 Kenneth

Nice catch!

Qutoed from the Yahoo article.

/not that it matters.

Ding me down, will you?!?!

162 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:46:41am
163 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:46:48am

I'm back, my girlfriend called, now what were we talking about?

164 J.S.  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:46:51am

CNN has reported that the derogatory language is from Adam Gadahn...

165 Big Steve  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:47:03am

It is good to see that the enemy is still stuck on hate.

166 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:47:11am

re: #125 notutopia

My liver is not quivering yet over this statement but the one he makes about us sending more soldiers for their dogs to eat!

Sorry, but that's pretty much "whistling past the graveyard" on his part.

The last thing they want is a major increase in US troops in Afghanistan, because we routinely clean their clocks over there. The average kill ratio in a stand-up fight between US troops and the Taliban remnants is around 20-1 in our favor.

The nice thing about Afghanistan vs Iraq is that it's not an urban fight, so there's a lot less concern about collateral damage.

167 opinionated  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:47:19am
You were born to a Muslim father, but you chose to stand in the ranks of the enemies of the Muslims, and pray the prayer of the Jews, although you claim to be Christian, in order to climb the rungs of leadership in America.

Changeling

168 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:47:25am

re: #150 sngnsgt

The left will blame Zawahri's racist rants on war-mongering, racist, American "Reich-Wing" thugs in 5...4...3...2...

/

Absolutely George W. Bush's fault! At least, that's what Olbermann will say.

169 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:47:32am

re: #153 AuntAcid

Yes.

And Obama is 1/2 white, he can operate from white, in the instances where A**h***s like Zawahri try to use the irrelevancy of skin color as a wedge to damage our country.

Go USA

170 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:48:11am

re: #123 3 wood

OMG, 3 wood! Did you see that the NYTs is currently at $6.63?

171 Radar  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:48:34am

re: #119 Kenneth

Oooh, that's a tough one... who's the "Other" in this "discourse"? Is Zawahiri the Other who's legitimate narrative has been oppressed by the racist imperialist American? Or is Obama the "Other" who's American dream narrative has been oppressed by the would-be imperialist Islamofacist Zawahiri?

Hmmm, I'm gonna go with (*switches on moonbat helmet):

"They are both the 'other' and thus have been cleverly tricked into a 'racist' conflict with each other by the other true Imperialists to take attention away from the hegemonic industrial military complex's war machines other schemes."

(*swicthes helmet off).

Ouch, my brain hurts.

172 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:48:41am

re: #152 Sean

WS is a troll more than likey. Fellow lizards have trained me quite well to sniff out trolls.

173 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:48:46am

re: #164 J.S.

CNN has reported that the derogatory language is from Adam Gadahn...

It has to be, since everyone knows there's no racism in the Islamic world.

174 kynna  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:49:03am

I just think it's pathetic. This jackass has been making statements for years and really -- what are his credentials for being quoted about anything? Death, destruction, manipulation, evil, mendacity.

CNN may hang on his every word, and the far left -- until now I'll bet -- has been totally in love with him but to me he's just greasy little weasel with a recording device.

175 Defogger  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:49:34am

re: #154 midwestgak

The DOW reflects future expectations, right?

Yep. The Obama presidency is now being factored in . . .

176 Russkilitlover  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:49:35am

re: #123 3 wood

Dow is down 190 and is off 1,600 points or 15% from when Obama was elected.

Hmmm....Off 20% is considered a crash. We're almost there - are the folks in Congress, Treasury, and Wall St. happy now?

177 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:49:41am

re: #170 Irene NYC

OMG, 3 wood! Did you see that the NYTs is currently at $6.63?

My grandfather worked for the time for over 35 years. He is probably rolling over in his grave right now.

Honestly, he was complaining in the 50's about the idiots at that paper.

178 2senseplain  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:49:47am

re: #139 Amy

You'd be surprised. Most of these AQ types, who are not cannon fodder, are not uneducated. They actually have read something besides the Koran and or their medical/engineering texts(probably written in English if they didn't actually study in the States or England). I doubt they needed to rely on Fat Adam.

179 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:49:51am
180 VegasRick  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:50:00am

re: #163 Walter L. Newton

I'm back, my girlfriend called, now what were we talking about?

You were going to send everyone of us a $100 bill.

181 bosforus  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:50:34am

re: #170 Irene NYC

OMG, 3 wood! Did you see that the NYTs is currently at $6.63?

Imagine the uproar if bailing out big media ever came up.

182 sngnsgt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:50:41am

re: #168 Wyatt Earp

Absolutely George W. Bush's fault! At least, that's what Olbermann will say.

My bad, I forgot Hitler-Bush gets blame for everything first.

183 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:51:00am

re: #179 ploome hineni

wow, 5 references to the girlfriend in 2 days... is this something new?

Do you mean new girlfriend, or my shameless self-promotion?

184 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:51:14am

re: #177 Walter L. Newton

My grandfather worked for the time for over 35 years. He is probably rolling over in his grave right now.

Honestly, he was complaining in the 50's about the idiots at that paper.

Well, the NYT was filled with nothing but useful idiots since at least the early 1930s, so I'm not surprised.
;)

185 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:51:27am

re: #158 ratherdashing

First, the term was "abeed al-beit" and means "house slave." It was taken from Malcom X.

Malcolm X didn't coin it. In the antebellum South, there was a clear social division between "House slaves" and "field slaves." House slaves, who were usually lighter-skinned, considered themselves superior and privileged, because they served in the Master's house and didn't have to do the backbreaking labor that the field hands did. Malcolm was talking about this difference in status as an example of the Master's strategy of "divide and conquer" by sowing division among blacks and implanting the idea that "lighter (whiter) is better."

186 Rancher  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:51:39am

re: #141 Spiny Norman

It's amazing what threatening to raise capital gains taxes 40% will do.

And when he reneges and says "Now is not the time to implement these tax increases" he will indeed be the savior.

187 jcbunga  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:51:43am

Is he auditioning for Rev. Wright's speechwriter?

188 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:51:50am

re: #160 funky chicken

ok whitey
/

189 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:02am

That mental midget probably doesn't remember that the only person in history to "push the button" on nuclear weapons was a Democrat... TWICE.

/Not arguing pro or con whether their use was right or wrong, just stating a fact.

190 J.S.  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:04am

re: #170 Irene NYC

There's a report that Freddie and Fannie are selling for under a dollar, and thus may soon be de-listed.

191 Russkilitlover  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:06am

re: #179 ploome hineni

wow, 5 references to the girlfriend in 2 days

is this something new?

Must be getting serious.

192 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:15am

re: #131 Spare O'Lake

I see the wily Doctor Camelfukkah's statement as an attempt to drive a wedge between Obama and the Jews, and between black radicals and Obama. If Obama supports Israel then he breaks faith with his black radical supporters and he is an uncle Tom. If Obama throws Israel under the bus then he loses Jewish support.
Either way, Al Qaeda gains something.

Good point. However, Obama could also educate said radicals, explaining to them how al-Zawahri words reflect the contempt with which black people are held by many (but not all) Arabs. Obama could do America a great service if he could turn even a small portion of black anger towards the genuine racism of al-Zawahri, then pair that anger with a resolve to see al-Zawahri end his life at the end of a rope, not lynched but judged.

193 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:18am

re: #180 VegasRick

You were going to send everyone of us a $100 bill.

Yea, and I'll tell you about a Blackjack table in Vegas where the dealing is tipping his hole card...

Get back to me on that.

194 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:40am

re: #170 Irene NYC

OMG, 3 wood! Did you see that the NYTs is currently at $6.63?

The Slimes' stock is worth less than their real estate holdings - their shiny new corporate HQ building. So, in other words, the building would be worth more vacant.

195 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:42am
196 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:52:53am

re: #193 Walter L. Newton

Yea, and I'll tell you about a Blackjack table in Vegas where the dealing is tipping his hole card...

Get back to me on that.

What's a hole card? :)

197 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:53:32am

re: #182 sngnsgt

My bad, I forgot Hitler-Bush gets blame for everything first.

The best news is that they'll still blame him years after he leaves office. It's win-win for the moonbats!

198 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:53:34am
199 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:53:42am

Given that the only place on this planet that BO has said he would like to use military force is Pakistan and the adjacent valleys in Afghanistan I would like to learn more about the Boy Wonder's interest in the place. He did visit there once. One day some reports on where he went and what happened to him should crawl out. This baiting by the Z-ster all sounds less theological than personal. Maybe a closer reading will reveal that Al-Z said of BO that he would "cut his nuts off." Then we'll know that we just have to wait for the offspring of Z to be offered a job on the bandwagon and all will be well.

200 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:53:59am

re: #181 bosforus

Imagine the uproar if bailing out big media ever came up.

Uproar? You consider those tiny little meows coming from the right an uproar?
;)

201 AuntAcid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:54:13am

re: #163 Walter L. Newton

I'm back, my girlfriend called, now what were we talking about?

You have to decide now - your girlfriend or LGF.

202 opnion  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:54:15am

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Good point. However, Obama could also educate said radicals, explaining to them how al-Zawahri words reflect the contempt with which black people are held by many (but not all) Arabs. Obama could do America a great service if he could turn even a small portion of black anger towards the genuine racism of al-Zawahri, then pair that anger with a resolve to see al-Zawahri end his life at the end of a rope, not lynched but judged.

That would be nice, but I think Obama views his true enemy as the US middle Class.

203 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:54:16am

re: #144 tfc3rid

Correlation?

Personally, I'd like to know how much of that is money being moved off-shore, to protect it from "the One's" grasp.

204 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:54:30am

re: #185 Amy

sowing division among blacks and implanting the idea that "lighter (whiter) is better."

I agree that this exists, but it seems to be within the Black community on its own, not something imposed by whites.

There is "light vs dark" racism within the black community.

There is much african-american literature on this, and on "passing."

60's black activists would have a field day with blond Beyonce.

205 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:54:31am

re: #178 2senseplain

You'd be surprised. Most of these AQ types, who are not cannon fodder, are not uneducated. They actually have read something besides the Koran and or their medical/engineering texts(probably written in English if they didn't actually study in the States or England). I doubt they needed to rely on Fat Adam.

See #173. I knew it! These fundamentalist types do not read secular books, and especially not Western books; they consider them worthless and corrupting.

206 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:54:32am

re: #196 midwestgak

What's a hole card? :)

Er, the face down card the dealer has in front of him.

207 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:55:17am

And yet flying planes full of innocent people into buildings filled with innocent people is very honorable.

//One fingered salute

208 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:55:25am

re: #206 Walter L. Newton

Er, the face down card the dealer has in front of him.

oh, the hold card?

209 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:55:25am

re: #201 AuntAcid

You have to decide now - your girlfriend or LGF.

I can engage my girlfriend and read LGF at the same time, as long as the monitor is positioned right!

210 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:55:32am

re: #149 midwestgak

It's slinky, it's slinky. What a wonderful toy

OMG, no, no . . . please no!
I'll have that in my head all day.
Even the newer commercials look and sound like they're 50 years old.

211 guitarguy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:55:35am

Obama can always go here for a snappy rejoinder.

212 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:55:38am

re: #59 Iron Fist

We didn't buy the world a Coke® (and weren't those the most annoying commercials ever made?)

IIRC, during WWII Coca Cola had a deal with the military to supply Cokes at cost. So, Coke went everywhere the troops went, the locals got a taste of it too, and hence the almost worldwide consumption of Coke.

213 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:06am

re: #49 rumcrook

I just wanna here katie curic say ..."in other news today Ayman al-Zawahri called barack obama a house negro" leading to condemnation from leading democrats that Ayman al-Zawahri is a racist.

LOL and the poor, confused looks on their little bubbleheaded faces.

214 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:13am

Good Morning all. I just got here. I do have a small life elsewhere. Not much of one, but still. Anyway. This might be a good test to see which way the new Obama Admin will blow:

Israel to boycott Durban II anti-racism conference

By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

What will America do? Which way will the wind blow?

215 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:22am

re: #16 lincolntf

Charles summed up my feelings when he wrote that this might finally turn the Left against Al-Qaeda.
How freakin' sad is it that it takes a racial slur for there to be a possibility that the Loons will actually realize that these psychopathic murderers aren't really good people at heart?

Don't be so sure that will be the reaction of the far left. John Pilger for example, has already attacked Obama as a tool of the 'American elite', which is 'adept at using the black middle and management class'; in other words a 'house negro'.

[Link: www.newstatesman.com...]

Barack Obama is being lauded by liberals but the truth about him is that he represents the worst of American power. John Pilger reports from Texas

....

Yes, Obama's election is historic, a symbol of great change to many. But it is equally true that the American elite has grown adept at using the black middle and management class. The courageous Martin Luther King recognised this when he linked the human rights of black Americans with the human rights of the Vietnamese, then being slaughtered by a "liberal" Democratic administration. And he was shot. In striking contrast, a young black major serving in Vietnam, Colin Powell, was used to "investigate" and whitewash the infamous My Lai massacre. As Bush's secretary of state, Powell was often described as a "liberal" and was considered ideal to lie to the United Nations about Iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction. Condaleezza Rice, lauded as a successful black woman, has worked assiduously to deny the Palestinians justice.

216 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:33am

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Good point. However, Obama could also educate said radicals, explaining to them how al-Zawahri words reflect the contempt with which black people are held by many (but not all) Arabs. Obama could do America a great service if he could turn even a small portion of black anger towards the genuine racism of al-Zawahri, then pair that anger with a resolve to see al-Zawahri end his life at the end of a rope, not lynched but judged.

Excellent sentiment!
Mr. President, did you get that all down?/

217 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:35am

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Good point. However, Obama could also educate said radicals, explaining to them how al-Zawahri words reflect the contempt with which black people are held by many (but not all) Arabs. Obama could do America a great service if he could turn even a small portion of black anger towards the genuine racism of al-Zawahri, then pair that anger with a resolve to see al-Zawahri end his life at the end of a rope, not lynched but judged.

Never going to happen.

G-d forbid anyone should explain to Hollywood actors, etc, that the Janjaweed are ARABS ethically cleansing black Africans and taking their lands.

The MSM always refers to the Janjaweed without specifically explaining what that means.

(Stop yelling at your computer, Cog).

218 Rancher  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:41am

re: #189 Max Darkside

/Not arguing pro or con whether their use was right or wrong, just stating a fact.

I'll give one pro, my Dad was set to go to Japan.

219 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:53am

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

I can engage my girlfriend and read LGF at the same time, as long as the monitor is positioned right!

I don't even wanna have that picture in my head right now Walter.

220 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:53am

re: #210 reine.de.tout

OMG, no, no . . . please no!
I'll have that in my head all day.
Even the newer commercials look and sound like they're 50 years old.

Many of them are using music from the 70's. Make's them seem older.

221 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:56am

BBL ... work ...

222 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:56:59am

re: #208 midwestgak

oh, the hold card?

It is called the "hole" card.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"The dealer gives two cards to each player including himself. One of the dealer's two cards is face-up so all the players can see it, and the other is face down. (The face-down card is known as the "hole card". In European blackjack, the hole card is not actually dealt until the players all play their hands.) The cards are dealt face up from a shoe, or face down if it is a pitch game."

223 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:57:07am

Ralph Nader already said the same thing.

224 yochanan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:57:12am

re: #204 Ben Hur

the term is 'high yellow' and i have heard it used like anyother rascist term but being used by black lump'n anginst middleclass blacks.

225 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:57:18am

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

I can engage my girlfriend and read LGF at the same time, as long as the monitor is positioned right!

And I am sure she is real happy about that if she knows?
/

226 thedopefishlives  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:57:36am

To all in America who believed Obama's election would end Muslim hatred... I TOLD YA SO.

With that said, this Islamotard scumbag still needs to die for insulting America and the next President of the United States. It's MY job to insult the President, because he's MY President. That's right, I went there.

227 turn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:57:41am

re: #211 guitarguy

Hilarious stuff, thanks for the link.

228 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:58:04am
229 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:58:48am

re: #222 Walter L. Newton

It is called the "hole" card.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"The dealer gives two cards to each player including himself. One of the dealer's two cards is face-up so all the players can see it, and the other is face down. (The face-down card is known as the "hole card". In European blackjack, the hole card is not actually dealt until the players all play their hands.) The cards are dealt face up from a shoe, or face down if it is a pitch game."

I sit corrected.

230 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:58:52am

re: #176 Russkilitlover

Hmmm....Off 20% is considered a crash. We're almost there - are the folks in Congress, Treasury, and Wall St. happy now?

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. You know it's happening, you can see it happening, and you can't do a damned thing about it.

231 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:58:53am

Good Morning, {all y'all}!

232 dhg4  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:59:01am

Just a few days ago David Ignatius wrote that the Jihadis were quaking in their boots because President Obama would undermine them. Zawahri doesn't sound so scared. Maybe a little defiant.

233 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:59:08am

re: #215 Jimmah

Don't be so sure that will be the reaction of the far left. John Pilger for example, has already attacked Obama as a tool of the 'American elite', which is 'adept at using the black middle and management class'; in other words a 'house negro'.

His unique brand of twisting the facts to represent something exactly 180° opposite of the truth is called "pilgery".

234 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:59:11am

re: #219 reine.de.tout

I don't even wanna have that picture in my head right now Walter.

I was talking about when I am on the phone. Naughty mind!

235 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:59:27am

re: #217 Ben Hur

Never going to happen.

G-d forbid anyone should explain to Hollywood actors, etc, that the Janjaweed are ARABS ethically cleansing black Africans and taking their lands.

The MSM always refers to the Janjaweed without specifically explaining what that means.

(Stop yelling at your computer, Cog).

THe MSM think tha the Janjaweed were in a movie with Robin Williams.

236 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:59:35am
237 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:59:39am

re: #202 opnion

That would be nice, but I think Obama views his true enemy as the US middle Class.

Maybe, but I hope not. Obama could use things like al-Zawahri's words and the Islamist-led genocide in Dafur to muster new resolve in America to confront tyranny. He'd lose part of his base in so doing, but he'd gain far more and better friends than I would lose.

Confront and destroy evil? Yes, We Can! If we will but name the evil and fight it without illusion.

238 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:00:06am

re: #236 buzzsawmonkey

As in, "ace in the hole."

As in anything in the hole. Ha!

239 yochanan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:00:09am

re: #218 Rancher

me too very pro here my father was at pearl harbor on that dec 7th as well as being on the uss enterprise afterwards.

my only regret about it was that berlin didn't get one.

240 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:00:50am

President Shimon Peres said Tuesday that Obama proclaimed himself "very impressed" with the Arab League's peace plan when the two discussed it during the American president-elect;s brief visit to Israel four months ago.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Is Obama that ignorant and stupid?

241 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:01:26am

This is the kind of stuff that might actually turn the far left against Al Qaeda

IIRC, the far left already used the same terminology against Rice and Powell.

242 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:01:30am

re: #240 Nevergiveup

Is this a trick question?

243 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:01:38am

re: #188 turn

ok whitey
/

it's funny. I'm just not gonna set my outrage meter to max over yet another idiotic statement from this goat lover.

The best response would be for the Obamas to lounge on the bed in the WH residential side, and tell this idiot that they are the White House Negros now. And then enquire as to his accomodations, or some such.

And then Michelle O could remind him to be nice to all his wives, and his livestock too.

They can't be that undiplomatic, but really, if there is any response beyond a snort and an eye roll, absolute vicious mockery is the way to go.

244 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:01:46am

al-Zawahri's "house n*gro" quote made Yahoo News.

Our MSM will become a thundering horde of wolves, defending The One. The Taliban's field commanders had best put all those embedded MSM journalists against the wall, because they'll now turn on their formerly-Politically Correct hosts.

(uh ... PIMF ... should have written "twittering herd of cotton-tail rabbits")

245 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:01:48am
246 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:02:04am

re: #21 Ringo the Gringo

I'm confused.

I thought our enemies love us now that we've elected Barack Obama.

Could it be that Dr. Zawahri hasn't yet heard one of President-elect Obama's stirring speaches?

It's hard to keep up with the shortwave radio broadcasts while your up to your bum in bat dung, deep in some cave.

247 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:02:14am
248 subsailor68  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:02:21am

Folks may have already seen this:

Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds


Where the hell are the big three's public relations people? Didn't anyone think to mention that flying private jets to a meeting where you're gonna ask for a bailout is probably a bad p.r. move?

Leadership lacking at all three.

249 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:02:48am

re: #245 ploome hineni

she is real happy she now knows, we know

lol

250 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:02:56am

re: #242 lifeofthemind

Is this a trick question?

It would all be so funny, but that is the kind of shit Obama and his "Moral Equivalence" crowd believe.

251 Rancher  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:03:04am

re: #223 philosophus invidius

Ralph Nader already said the same thing.

Al Qaeda has been getting its talking points from the left for years.

252 Thanos  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:03:19am

re: #199 lifeofthemind

Given that the only place on this planet that BO has said he would like to use military force is Pakistan and the adjacent valleys in Afghanistan I would like to learn more about the Boy Wonder's interest in the place. He did visit there once. One day some reports on where he went and what happened to him should crawl out. This baiting by the Z-ster all sounds less theological than personal. Maybe a closer reading will reveal that Al-Z said of BO that he would "cut his nuts off." Then we'll know that we just have to wait for the offspring of Z to be offered a job on the bandwagon and all will be well.

He was in Karachi a few weeks staying with some people of interest. You can read about it at All Things Pakistan, dont' have time to dig for the link atm.

253 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:03:20am

re: #204 Ben Hur

I agree that this exists, but it seems to be within the Black community on its own, not something imposed by whites.

There is "light vs dark" racism within the black community.

There is much african-american literature on this, and on "passing."

60's black activists would have a field day with blond Beyonce.

And where do you think this came from? This is something I know about, having done a lot of reading on the subject. The lighter offspring of women raped by the masters were not treated as badly as the darker slaves, because they had some "white blood," and were usually trained to be personal servants for members of the master's family. This equation of "white blood" with superiority and privilege persisted among blacks for the next 100 years or so. Because "House Negroes" were generally more loyal to the Master, the phrase came to be identified with those blacks who accepted whites as their masters and looked down on other blacks.

254 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:03:29am

This "insult" will not change anything, not at least the way Obama's supporters view Middle Eastern politics.

It's still BushyHitler's fault, it will take Obama years to undue what the Republicans did, Al-second-in-command is just letting us know who he feels being pursued by the Bush administration all these years, it will all be ok when Obama speaks to them. Just wait and see.

255 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:03:34am
256 samhein  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:03:42am

re: #80 Honorary Yooper

I have a fraud and it's name is Acorn
A C O R N
A C O R N
A C O R N
And Acorn is its name-o

I know a number of Democrats as well who didn't vote for Obama.

My guess is (and I could be wrong) that Obama is not going to get the respect or the "unity" in the world that he thinks he will get.

I think he may be in for a shock.

257 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:03:50am
258 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:04:13am

re: #217 Ben Hur

Never going to happen.

G-d forbid anyone should explain to Hollywood actors, etc, that the Janjaweed are ARABS ethically cleansing black Africans and taking their lands.

The MSM always refers to the Janjaweed without specifically explaining what that means.

(Stop yelling at your computer, Cog).

Don't mock Cognito, Ben. He paid for his follies with banishment, and besides, his contrarian words often quite mocked themselves in their illogic.

259 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:04:18am

re: #248 subsailor68

Where the hell are the big three's public relations people?

Carrying their golf clubs.

260 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:04:22am

This video is an evil plot to get all of us to rally around Obama.

261 Sean  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:04:33am

re: #172 turn

I guess the nic is a tipoff/tell.

262 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:04:45am

re: #247 buzzsawmonkey

I was thinking of the line in one of Mae West's songs--I think it was "What Have You Done To Me?", which she sings to Cary Grant--where she refers to him as "her little ace in the hole." A pretty racy double-entendre on the card reference, if you ask me.

And what the hay did you think I was referring to when I answered you? :) Sick minds think alike.

263 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:05:51am

I don't understand how anyone could take offense to a comment made by a TERRORIST. Yes Barack is our POTUS, but are you going to let this bag of shit make you flinch? Question the source. Then launch an ICBM in his direction.

264 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:05:52am
265 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:05:54am

re: #240 Nevergiveup

You know, I've read several articles recently about this stupid "Saudi peace plan," and they all have one thing in common: Not one of them includes any quotes from Palestinian leaders.

Am I the only one who thinks it's odd that nobody seems to have asked their opinion on this?

266 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:05:54am

re: #232 dhg4

Objectively, why would al Qaeda be frightened by Obama? There is nothing he as said or done to indicate that he wouldn't treat terrorism any differently than it was treated during the Clinton Administration. Those were the banner years for the Islamonazis. I imagine that they are looking forward to the next four years of war against the Great Satan.

267 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:06:06am

re: #252 Thanos

He was in Karachi a few weeks staying with some people of interest. You can read about it at All Things Pakistan, dont' have time to dig for the link atm.

Maybe they told him to make his own bed. Payback time.

268 Alouette  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:06:21am

re: #128 funky chicken

I have to add -- point at camera and laugh your ass off. "Good one, dude! How's the amenities in that cave working out for you?"

Muslims HATE mockery.

Silly, isn't he?

269 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:06:50am
270 kaymad  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:06:59am

I could see the far left getting really angry over this. Nevermind that almost 3000 people were killed on 9-11, but insulting Obama goes to far!

271 Charles  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:07:51am

Zawahiri was very probably quoting Harry Belafonte's infamously idiotarian statement, about the African-Americans serving in the Bush administration:

"There was two kinds of slaves. There was the house Negro and the field Negro. The house Negroes, they lived in the house with master, they dressed pretty good, they ate good 'cause they ate his food and what he left...In those days he was called a 'house n*****.' And that's what we call him today, because we've still got some house ni*****s running around here."

272 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:08:07am

re: #265 lobo91

You know, I've read several articles recently about this stupid "Saudi peace plan," and they all have one thing in common: Not one of them includes any quotes from Palestinian leaders.

Am I the only one who thinks it's odd that nobody seems to have asked their opinion on this?

Has anyone ever really asked Obama anything? Just saying.

273 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:08:20am

re: #223 philosophus invidius

Ralph Nader already said the same thing.

So did a whole army on the left - about Condi, and Colin.

Condi, the descendant of slaves, who grew up in the segregated South, was best friends with a young black girl blown up by the right wing version of Bill Ayers and overcame Jim Crow, etc, to succeed on merit and not social promotion or affirmative action, to rise to provost at Stanford and was the first black female national security advisor and first black female sec. of state. Because of her incredible accomplishments she should have been hailed from the mountain tops.

THIS is who the left calls a House Slave.

Now it'll be wrong because the son of a white woman and a Kenyan over-seas student, with no US slave lineage, or Civil Rights marching lineage with a far left pedigree is President.

But now, it will bother the left because Obama is a real African American, ie, not a Republican.

I'm not saying it shouldn't bother them, but their hypocrisy is insane as usual.

274 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:08:54am

re: #272 Nevergiveup

Has anyone ever really asked Obama anything? Just saying.

That Joe guy did.

275 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:08:59am

re: #212 Son of the Black Dog

Cool. I didn' tknow that. More of that Yankee gringo imperialism on the march.

276 Hard Right  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:02am

The far left Vs, Zawahiri.....lovers quarrel.

277 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:25am

re: #6 bosforus

I love the "Egyptian Physician" title.

Buzzsaw Monkey will make those lyrics sing!

278 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:32am

re: #248 subsailor68

Folks may have already seen this:

Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds


Where the hell are the big three's public relations people? Didn't anyone think to mention that flying private jets to a meeting where you're gonna ask for a bailout is probably a bad p.r. move?

Leadership lacking at all three.

Eh, selective MSM outrage. Do you think AIG sold off the private jets after they got $150 billion bucks from Hank "Shifty" Paulson?

It's just an effort by the MSM to take the focus off the UAW and the way their contracts have bankrupted the automakers.

That's not to say that they don't need to sell those jets pronto....

279 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:32am

re: #271 Charles

Zawahiri was very probably quoting Harry Belafonte's infamously idiotarian statement, about the African-Americans serving in the Bush administration:

Yeah I remember that. Real classy! There is also really no way to embarrass someone like that is there?

280 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:37am

re: #209 Walter L. Newton

I can engage my girlfriend and read LGF at the same time, as long as the monitor is positioned right!

The trick is getting your girlfriend to engage you while you're on LGF.

She's down with that? Marry her.

281 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:42am

re: #218 Rancher

I'll give one pro, my Dad was set to go to Japan.

As was my father-in-law.

282 Alouette  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:47am

re: #240 Nevergiveup

President Shimon Peres said Tuesday that Obama proclaimed himself "very impressed" with the Arab League's peace plan when the two discussed it during the American president-elect;s brief visit to Israel four months ago.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Is Obama that ignorant and stupid?

Maybe, but Peres sure is.

283 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:51am

Charles,

I doubt that Zawahiri know Belafonte from Sinatra, but Gadahn sure does.

284 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:09:59am

re: #274 OldLineTexan

That Joe guy did.

And that worked out real good for him?

285 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:10:33am

re: #281 Max Darkside

As was my father-in-law.

My uncle, who just passed away, was on the boat headed there when the second bomb was dropped.

286 subsailor68  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:10:54am

re: #257 buzzsawmonkey

You really can't plead your best when you've just had to fly coach.

And the jet was just sitting there, anyway, costing them money whether it was used or not.

LOL on the flying coach part. :-)

But, as the article mentioned, Wagoner's round trip flight cost $20,000, whereas a first class ticket was $837.00. Hell, he could have sipped champagne while saving his company $19,000 and change.

287 AuntAcid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:10:56am

re: #263 NYCHardhat

I don't understand how anyone could take offense to a comment made by a TERRORIST. Yes Barack is our POTUS, but are you going to let this bag of shit make you flinch? Question the source. Then launch an ICBM in his direction.

288 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:11:04am

re: #271 Charles

I learned a long time ago that anyone in the entertainment business is not in touch with reality. Therefore, I do not take political points from actors, musicians, artists, etc.

289 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:11:11am

re: #268 Alouette

Silly, isn't he?

That's just the spirit! Al-Zawahri should be mocked in the same way Hitler and Goering were mocked during WWII. He deserves no respect and the laughter of free people at the absurdities of their enemies is a healthy thing.

290 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:11:11am

re: #284 Nevergiveup

And that worked out real good for him?

No pain, no gain. I see Joe the Plumber doing well in the immediate future.

291 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:11:41am
292 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:11:47am

re: #282 Alouette

Maybe, but Peres sure is.

I think in Peres's case it's called senility?

293 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:12:09am

re: #248 subsailor68

They're busy people and can't deal with the delays and travel woes of the hoi polloi.

It doesn't help engender any sympathy for the plight of the automakers who have driven themselves right over the cliff with their arrogance, stupidity, and incompetence to recognize that their business plan is a disaster and that no amount of money thrown at them will save them from an inevitable failure.

294 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:12:30am

re: #280 Ben Hur

The trick is getting your girlfriend to engage you while you're on LGF.She's down with that? Marry her.

Ok, it's tempting to comment (see bolded snippet above), but I won't, just keep your fingers off the keyboard Wally.

295 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:12:40am

re: #289 Dark_Falcon

That's just the spirit! Al-Zawahri should be mocked in the same way Hitler and Goering were mocked during WWII. He deserves no respect and the laughter of free people at the absurdities of their enemies is a healthy thing.

You will not be allowed to make Bugs Bunny cartoons like that did in WW2. It's too racist and un-PC.

296 3 wood  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:12:44am

re: #144 tfc3rid

re: #123 3 wood

Dow is down 190 and is off 1,600 points or 15% from when Obama was elected.

Correlation?

There is some, yes.

1. The market is always a bet on the future.

2. That future now includes Obama as President and the Democrats in control of congress, very possible with a fillabuster proof majority.

3. Obama's comments and policy statements so far equate to spend a lot of money and raise taxes on capital gains and those who make a significant income.

4. Raising taxes is one of the worst things you can do at this point.

5. Obama still has not named a successor to Paulson at the Treasury and that indecision is starting to weigh heavily in the market and suggest strongly that Obama has no idea what to do.

So you see the market discounting that into the prices along with everything else.

297 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:12:52am

re: #271 Charles

Zawahiri was very probably quoting Harry Belafonte's infamously idiotarian statement, about the African-Americans serving in the Bush administration:

Malcolm X also used the term to criticize black leaders who he accused were not standing up to whites.

298 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:13:11am

re: #287 AuntAcid

I was never any good with emphasis. Thanks!

299 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:13:14am

re: #288 NYCHardhat

I would beg to differ. I am still in entertainment, and I consider myself very politically informed, and, if my posts here are any measure, astute.

I will admit to being few in number. But there are some people about who know which end is up.

Thy brush is too broad, sir.

300 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:13:55am

re: #285 OldLineTexan

My uncle, who just passed away, was on the boat headed there when the second bomb was dropped.

and if my father-in-law passed on while fighting on Japanese soil, my wife would not exist, nor my sons.

301 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:13:57am

re: #285 OldLineTexan

My uncle, who just passed away, was on the boat headed there when the second bomb was dropped.

My dad (a doc who had been stationed in North Africa and then Southern France) was also on a boat on the way to the Philippines, from where the invasion of Japan was going to be staged. The bombs were dropped, and the boat turned around in mid-ocean and returned to Europe.

302 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:14:33am

OK, now I'm outta here

303 Crusty  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:14:39am

re: #112 3 wood

I don't know about that, but over at the cesspool known as HuffPo many of the posters are comparing this to Palin's criticism's of Obama.

Proof positive that many on the left are nuts.

Let's review the bizarre logic of HuffPo, Watchtower of the Left.

If Obama pals with terrorists by attending a career-launching fundraiser in the living room of terrorists, he's OK. But, if Sarah Palin points out that the candidate who pals around with terrorists is "palling around with terrorists", she's a racist just like Ayman al-Zawahiri...who is a terrorist.

304 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:14:41am

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

Ok, it's tempting to comment (see bolded snippet above), but I won't, just keep your fingers off the keyboard Wally.

Now Walter, not everyone here has their minds in the gutter. I do of course, but I assumed ( and yes I know all about assuming ) you were above that? And speaking about in the gutter. Daschle for haelth and human services.

305 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:14:49am

re: #292 Nevergiveup

I think in Peres's case it's called senility?

I recently had the privilege to hear Peres speak at a private gathering.

His new schtick is telling people (especially young people) that they should forget history - don't even bother studying it - because who cares what a bunch of kings and emperors did, anyway? Just think of the future.

That's when I realized that he's finally lost it.

306 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:14:53am

re: #285 OldLineTexan

My grandfather was on a troopship in the Indian Ocean on the way to Japan when the Bombs went up. Instead of being slaughtered in the invasion of Japan, he served as an MP during the Occupation. Service he was proud of his entire life. When he passed away, he had a military funeral complete with the color guard and 21 gun salute. It was very moving.

307 AuntAcid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:14:57am

re: #280 Ben Hur

The trick is getting your girlfriend to engage you while you're on LGF.

She's down with that? Marry her.

...or like Bill did with Monica.

308 abu_garcia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:14:58am

I think this is all about street cred. The good doctor wants to undermine any inclination that radical blacks might have to moderate their views about Amerikkka. He's not concerned with winning converts to his side, he just does not want to lose the sympathy he has in the American street.

309 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:15:25am

re: #248 subsailor68

Folks may have already seen this:

Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds


Where the hell are the big three's public relations people? Didn't anyone think to mention that flying private jets to a meeting where you're gonna ask for a bailout is probably a bad p.r. move?

Leadership lacking at all three.

Get the feeling they're all representative of the Peter Principle?

310 3 wood  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:15:34am

re: #170 Irene NYC

re: #123 3 wood

OMG, 3 wood! Did you see that the NYTs is currently at $6.63?

No but thanks for that very good news.

The price is now down to $6.56, down about 8% on the day so far.

Puts a smile on my face, I can tell you!

311 Timbre  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:15:35am

How about a stimulus package for Al-Qaeda?

312 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:15:43am

re: #289 Dark_Falcon

That's just the spirit! Al-Zawahri should be mocked in the same way Hitler and Goering were mocked during WWII. He deserves no respect and the laughter of free people at the absurdities of their enemies is a healthy thing.

Mocked with a 7.62 MM sniper round works for me.

313 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:15:53am

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

Ok, it's tempting to comment (see bolded snippet above), but I won't, just keep your fingers off the keyboard Wally.

That's exactly what I meant by "engage you" LOL!

314 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:15:55am

OK. Way off topic:

This link has bben going around in emails warning of stores that are planning store closings, and in some cases all stores closing, after the holidays. The point being, don't buy gift cards or anything that may need servicing at any of these places.

315 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:16:01am

re: #299 rawmuse

I should have been less general.

316 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:16:17am

re: #305 Ben Hur

I recently had the privilege to hear Peres speak at a private gathering.

His new schtick is telling people (especially young people) that they should forget history - don't even bother studying it - because who cares what a bunch of kings and emperors did, anyway? Just think of the future.

That's when I realized that he's finally lost it.

Yeah I'm with ya. It is to bad. Israel owes alot to Peres. He was really one of the Giants. Some people just don't know when to get off the stage?

317 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:16:23am

re: #303 Crusty

Let's review the bizarre logic of HuffPo, Watchtower of the Left.

If Obama pals with terrorists by attending a career-launching fundraiser in the living room of terrorists, he's OK. But, if Sarah Palin points out that the candidate who pals around with terrorists is "palling around with terrorists", she's a racist just like Ayman al-Zawahiri...who is a terrorist.

Logic is not among the Paint Huffers' strong points.

318 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:16:24am
319 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:16:39am
320 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:17:09am

re: #264 buzzsawmonkey

It is well to remember that Nader is not only far-left, he is of Lebanese extraction, and has been anti-Israel for years. Which might make one start to muse about how close he might perhaps be to some of our unfriends in the Middle East--and here.


Greenism and anti-globalism are a variant on elitist Socialism. There has always been a streak of anti-Semitism in it. The Jews are viewed as the entrepreneurial deracinated Cosmopolites of Capitalism. That is why there is a natural affinity between Islamism, with its urge to regress society to a pre-industrial state under a warrior/scholar elite, and radical populists of both the left and right.

321 Outrider  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:17:21am

re: #113 AuntAcid

"In other words, this is a trial balloon to see how Obama will respond."

3 response options

"I'll have to get back to you on that."
"I'll have my people call your people."
"Thank you for sharing."

"let me eat my waffle"

322 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:17:30am
323 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:17:33am

Negotiations under way to free that Saudi Tanker. Hum? Yeah that will stop future hijacking?

324 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:17:40am

I wonder if part of this criticism could be because Obama left islam.

325 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:18:09am

re: #320 lifeofthemind

Greenism and anti-globalism are a variant on elitist Socialism. There has always been a streak of anti-Semitism in it. The Jews are viewed as the entrepreneurial deracinated Cosmopolites of Capitalism. That is why there is a natural affinity between Islamism, with its urge to regress society to a pre-industrial state under a warrior/scholar elite, and radical populists of both the left and right.

Excellent point. Bingo.

326 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:18:21am

Alright!

Indian navy sinks suspected pirate "mother" ship

NEW DELHI – An Indian naval vessel sank a suspected pirate "mother ship" in the Gulf of Aden and chased two attack boats into the night, officials said Wednesday, yet more violence in the lawless seas where brigands are becoming bolder and more violent...

A multicoalition naval force has increased patrols in the region, and scored a rare success Tuesday when the Indian warship, operating off the coast of Oman, stopped a ship similar to a pirate vessel mentioned in numerous piracy bulletins. The Indian navy said the pirates fired on the INS Tabar after the officers asked it to stop to be searched.

"Pirates were seen roaming on the upper deck of this vessel with guns and rocket propelled grenade launchers," said a statement from the Indian navy. Indian forces fired back, sparking fires and a series of onboard blasts — possibly due to exploding ammunition — and destroying the ship.

They chased one of two speedboats that had been shadowing the larger ship, and which fled when it sank. One was later found abandoned. The other escaped, according to the statement.

Larger "mother ships" are often used to take gangs of pirates and smaller attack boats into deep water, and can be used as mobile bases to attack merchant vessels.

That's the way to do it!

327 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:18:31am

re: #319 buzzsawmonkey

It is well to remember that Martin Luther King put his person and his life on the line to achieve passage of legislation that actually made a difference in people's lives.

Hear hear!

328 AuntAcid  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:18:32am

re: #287 AuntAcid


jeesh!
Re: ICBMs

US drones - putting the FUN back in FUNERALS

329 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:18:39am
330 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:18:49am

re: #303 Crusty

Let's review the bizarre logic of HuffPo, Watchtower of the Left.

If Obama pals with terrorists by attending a career-launching fundraiser in the living room of terrorists, he's OK. But, if Sarah Palin points out that the candidate who pals around with terrorists is "palling around with terrorists", she's a racist just like Ayman al-Zawahiri...who is a terrorist.

ROLMAO! LOL! Hahahah....

331 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:18:55am

re: #295 OldLineTexan

You will not be allowed to make Bugs Bunny cartoons like that did in WW2. It's too racist and un-PC.

They don't have to attack Arabs as a race. What must be done is mock the absurdities of the Islamist's ideology. Stand-up comics have been doing it for years. Hell, even Bill Maher has mocked them quite effectively at times. Al-Zawahri is a fool in many ways, and we should call him a fool and mock him as such.

332 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:00am

re: #315 NYCHardhat

That's OK, I called you "sir", and maybe you aren't one. ;)

333 guy_philly  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:18am

Look for Obama to give the subtle 1-finger salute to #2 Al-Q the next time he mentions him in a speech.

Congratulating McCain:

Acknowledging Hillary:

334 DaChew  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:24am

That video is going to get such a bad review in the New York Times.

335 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:25am

re: #312 Dustyvet

Mocked with a 7.62 MM sniper round works for me.

Me too.

336 subsailor68  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:40am

re: #309 Spiny Norman

Get the feeling they're all representative of the Peter Principle?

LOL! I think Peter would say something like "Geez guys, I never thought it'd get this bad. I was thinking about incompetence, not incompetence AND arrogance."

337 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:44am

re: #326 Kenneth

Alright!

Indian navy sinks suspected pirate "mother" ship


That's the way to do it!

Damn straight. Blow the f*ckers outta the water. None of this namby-pamby "diplomacy" bullsh!t.

338 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:55am

re: #332 rawmuse

Oh...but I am. I'm just used to being called "bluecard."

339 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:19:57am

re: #74 Amy

Fine with me, as long as we can identify him by the remains as "not just merely dead, but most sincerely dead."

CSI - The remains seem to be physicianlike.

340 Land Shark  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:20:35am

While I hope Al-Queda calling Obama a "house negro" will open the left's eyes, I really doubt it will. The left has been willfully blind to the threat of jihad even after massive terrorist attacks from 9/11 to 7/7 to the use of children as suicide bombers. To think a simple slur is going to all of a sudden make the left realize what we are facing is so much wishful thinking. I'd love to be wrong, though.

Besides they will probably blame the slur on the Bush/Chenney regime driving them to say such things. If there's one thing I've learned from the moonbats, it's that they'll rationalize anything to fit their dim bulb world view.

341 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:20:48am
342 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:02am

re: #326 Kenneth

Alright!

Indian navy sinks suspected pirate "mother" ship

That's the way to do it!

One down, two to go. The pirates are using two large trawlers and an ocean-going tug. I wonder which one it was that the Indians got.

343 oh_dude  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:26am

Which "#2" is this again? Is this the interim "#2" until we blast his ass back to Allah?

344 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:27am

re: #248 subsailor68

Folks may have already seen this:

Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds


Where the hell are the big three's public relations people? Didn't anyone think to mention that flying private jets to a meeting where you're gonna ask for a bailout is probably a bad p.r. move?

Leadership lacking at all three.

Since 9/11, insurers forbid CEOs from flying commercial. This after Raytheon lost four top execs on the same flight that slammed into the World Trade Center (AA Flight 11, IIRC). The whole corporate jet thing is a phony issue; just another way to bash the automakers.

345 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:29am

re: #307 AuntAcid

...or like Bill did with Monica.

Yep, I knew it. If I didn't run with the original comment by Ben Hur, I knew that some Lizard would take of the mantle and do it for me.

Always watching our backs.

346 jamgarr  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:34am

re: #1 rawmuse

So speaks the dude living in a cave.

Also sprock Zawahiri

347 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:34am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

They don't have to attack Arabs as a race. What must be done is mock the absurdities of the Islamist's ideology. Stand-up comics have been doing it for years. Hell, even Bill Maher has mocked them quite effectively at times. Al-Zawahri is a fool in many ways, and we should call him a fool and mock him as such.

The boys on South Park did it nicely.

348 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:43am

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

.338 Lapua. When you care enough to send the very best.

349 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:46am

Is your computer making you sick?

The British magazine Which? Computing asked a microbiologist to come to their offices and conduct swab tests of their keyboards. As it turned out, the keyboards were dirtier than the office toilet seat – and one of the keyboards was actually five times as dirty as the toilet seat. In fact, the keyboards were so bacteria-laden that they could cause symptoms of food poisoning and other illnesses.

Eewww

350 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:21:52am

re: #337 Spiny Norman

Damn straight. Blow the f*ckers outta the water. None of this namby-pamby "diplomacy" bullsh!t.

If your not a big fan of namby-pamby "diplomacy" I hope you have a large supply of Xanax for the next 4 years?

351 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:22:00am

Just for jollies, go back to the closing days of WWII and read the NYT pages covering the war in Europe. Same type of coverage, quagmire, we'll never get out (that one may have been true,as we still have bases there) we'll never win over the populace, we'll win, but at what cost, blah, blah. Remarkable.

352 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:22:18am

re: #326 Kenneth

Alright!

Indian navy sinks suspected pirate "mother" ship

That's the way to do it!

Hell, yeah! Pirates should be shown no mercy. India is right to fight them, as are we.

353 Iron Fist  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:22:36am

re: #343 oh_dude


He is the new #2. You are #6...

354 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:22:39am
355 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:22:40am

re: #342 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, there are many more pirated than that. Several gangs operating out of several ports along the Somali coast.

356 2senseplain  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:22:59am

re: #282 Alouette
Not stupid. Evil.

357 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:23:00am

re: #322 ploome hineni

I always thought Belafonte was describing himself...

Born. To Harry (Harold George) Belafonte Jr., 30, Harlem-born calypso crooner, and his second wife, Julie Robinson Belafonte, 29, pigtailed, Russian-Jewish dancer (Katherine Dunham troupe): a son, their first child (his third); in Manhattan. Name: David Michael.

disgusting racial hypocrites

hates whites, loves CHavez...marries a white woman

/spit

Amiri Baraka (a/k/a LeRoi Jones) also married a Jewish woman, whom he later divorced.
Amiri Baraka:

In 1965 Baraka divorced Hettie Cohen, his Jewish wife whom he had married in a Buddhist temple in New York in 1958. They edited in the late 1950s the Yugen magazine which published poetry - Hettie did the pasting up and collating on the kitchen table. Later she specialized in children's books dealing with black and Native American themes. She has depicted her life with LeRoi Jones in her book of memoir, How I Became Hettie Jones (1990).

358 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:23:08am

re: #350 Nevergiveup

If your not a big fan of namby-pamby "diplomacy" I hope you have a large supply of Xanax for the next 4 years?

Tell me about it.

359 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:23:09am

re: #83 lawhawk

Gee, insulting the soon to be President of the US. That's sure telling him. It's almost like Zawahiri is egging Obama on just to see if Obama will hit al Qaeda.

Zawahiri has sprung a trap on Obama. If Obama orders strikes, Zawahiri can claim that (1) it's because Obama's a stooge for others; (2) he's vain and can't take being belittled; (3) combination of 1 and 2.

If Obama doesn't continue to respond to al Qaeda with force, Zawahiri sees just how weak Obama is and how a lack of resolve can be exploited in future attacks against US strategic interests worldwide.

In other words, this is a trial balloon to see how Obama will respond.

Ha! Even sooner that Joe the Biden predicted!

360 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:23:14am

re: #351 rawmuse

Just for jollies, go back to the closing days of WWII and read the NYT pages covering the war in Europe. Same type of coverage, quagmire, we'll never get out (that one may have been true,as we still have bases there) we'll never win over the populace, we'll win, but at what cost, blah, blah. Remarkable.

Well- that second part is true too. We didn't win over the populace- they still hate us.

361 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:23:27am

re: #170 Irene NYC

OMG, 3 wood! Did you see that the NYTs is currently at $6.63?

Silly you. You think the NY Times is a business. Actually, it is Pinch's hobby, something to keep him occupied between weekends in the Hamptons.

362 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:23:31am

re: #306 Iron Fist

My grandfather was on a troopship in the Indian Ocean on the way to Japan when the Bombs went up. Instead of being slaughtered in the invasion of Japan, he served as an MP during the Occupation. Service he was proud of his entire life. When he passed away, he had a military funeral complete with the color guard and 21 gun salute. It was very moving.

I don't know if my cousins arranged for military honors for tomorrow. My guess is no.

My uncle was redeployed from artilleryman to medic and spent two years in Japan mostly patching up local's minor boo-boos. I do believe it changed his life, based on what he told me over the years. Post-war Japan was pretty grim, and these folks had nothing. As an Army Sgt. with three roommates, he had a house, a gardener, and an old woman that came over to cook and clean. He and his friends left the house to her when the last man shipped home. I am lucky enough to have his "war souvenirs", two swords and a good luck flag, that he purchased (not captured, as he would tell you while chuckling).

363 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:23:38am

re: #349 Kenneth

*grin*
Not near "Eewww" enough to keep you from posting that comment.

364 J.S.  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:24:08am

re: #319 buzzsawmonkey

Wasn't Malcolm X also (before he changed later on) pro segregation -- that is, to keep blacks and whites separate? (perhaps this is where radical Islam overlaps with Black supremacy? what Z is praising Malcolm X?)

365 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:24:16am

re: #361 Son of the Black Dog

Read the Post. Better sports section.

366 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:24:37am

re: #351 rawmuse

Just for jollies, go back to the closing days of WWII and read the NYT pages covering the war in Europe. Same type of coverage, quagmire, we'll never get out (that one may have been true,as we still have bases there) we'll never win over the populace, we'll win, but at what cost, blah, blah. Remarkable.

I'd forgotten about that. Thanks.

367 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:24:54am

re: #364 J.S.

Wasn't Malcolm X also (before he changed later on) pro segregation -- that is, to keep blacks and whites separate? (perhaps this is where radical Islam overlaps with Black supremacy? what Z is praising Malcolm X?)

The nation of islam is pretty much Black Liberation Theology. It's not real islam.

368 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:25:19am

re: #87 J.S.

"abu" means father in Arabic.

In Canadian, aboot means about.

369 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:25:43am

"What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly cult of the Jew? Bargaining. What is his worldly god? Money"
--Karl Marx

370 Alouette  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:25:49am

re: #326 Kenneth

Alright!

Indian navy sinks suspected pirate "mother" ship

That's the way to do it!

That's the kind of outsourcing I like!

371 J.S.  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:26:13am

re: #367 Sharmuta

Malcolm X converted to Islam -- or the version of American Black Islam - Nation of Islam version.

372 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:26:25am

re: #347 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The boys on South Park did it nicely.

Yes they did. "Osama bin Laden Wears Farty Pants" remains one of my favorite South Park episodes.

373 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:26:30am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

They don't have to attack Arabs as a race. What must be done is mock the absurdities of the Islamist's ideology. Stand-up comics have been doing it for years. Hell, even Bill Maher has mocked them quite effectively at times. Al-Zawahri is a fool in many ways, and we should call him a fool and mock him as such.

If you make an absurd cartoon of Zawahiri, you will be branded a racist.

Hell, W-B has buried the Bugs Bunny cartoons with Japanese mocking. Even if you took out the OBVIOUS racial slurs, you could not make those cartoons today and expect widespread acceptance.

374 3 wood  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:26:44am

re: #361 Son of the Black Dog

Silly you. You think the NY Times is a business. Actually, it is Pinch's hobby, something to keep him occupied between weekends in the Hamptons.

Well pretty soon you will get a share of New York Slimes stock with every copy of their rag sold on the street.

375 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:26:51am
376 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:27:26am

re: #322 ploome hineni

I always thought Belafonte was describing himself...

Born. To Harry (Harold George) Belafonte Jr., 30, Harlem-born calypso crooner, and his second wife, Julie Robinson Belafonte, 29, pigtailed, Russian-Jewish dancer (Katherine Dunham troupe): a son, their first child (his third); in Manhattan. Name: David Michael.

disgusting racial hypocrites

/spit


According to Malcolm X (in his book), that's the prize in their community.

He was against it.
hates whites, loves CHavez...marries a white woman

377 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:27:40am

re: #349 Kenneth

Is your computer making you sick?

Eewww

Oh great. Now computers are giving ME viruses!

378 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:05am

re: #372 Dark_Falcon

Yes they did. "Osama bin Laden Wears Farty Pants" remains one of my favorite South Park episodes.

I was thinking of the Cartoon Wars episode, when they had Zawahiri decrying Family Guy. But that's a great episode, too.

379 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:10am

re: #355 Kenneth

Oh, there are many more pirated than that. Several gangs operating out of several ports along the Somali coast.

I meant mother ships which had been ID. Yeah, there are a slew of Somalis up and down the coast working in that "industry".

380 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:12am

re: #371 J.S.

Malcolm X converted to Islam -- or the version of American Black Islam - Nation of Islam version.

Well lets give Malcolm X his due. Yes he originally was a devoted follower of the NOI, but he did break with them when he realized they were a bunch of hypocrites. And that is what got him killed.

381 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:28am

re: #363 pre-Boomer Marine brat

...or to stop me from eating my sandwich while I typed with the one hand.

382 vxbush  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:43am

[ to the tune of "Always and Forever"]

Egyptian Physician
Who hates like a pro

...

383 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:51am
384 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:53am

re: #377 Max Darkside

Oh great. Now computers are giving ME viruses!

One word: Latex Gloves?

385 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:28:56am

re: #378 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I was thinking of the Cartoon Wars episode, when they had Zawahiri decrying Family Guy. But that's a great episode, too.

Good example. I had forgotten about the non-cartoon mockery. Plus, Zawahiri shares Cartman's opinion of Family Guy in that episode.

386 Outrider  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:29:06am

re: #375 ploome hineni

he either retains food crumbs around his mouth

has a itching skin disorder

never seen any public figure scratch his face amd mouth so much

/when does he scratch his ass?

For his sake; hopefully not just before he scratches his face and mouth.

387 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:29:24am

re: #376 Ben Hur

According to Malcolm X (in his book), that's the prize in their community.

He was against it.
hates whites, loves CHavez...marries a white woman


That should've been above my post.

388 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:29:43am

re: #383 ploome hineni

Jewish women are inSane

Can i quote you?

389 2senseplain  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:29:59am

re: #369 philosophus invidius

Sorry. I don't get the point of the quote.

390 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:30:00am

re: #296 3 wood

At what point does it get dangerously low? 6000? 5000?

391 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:30:15am

re: #384 Nevergiveup

One word: Latex Gloves?

Are you Joe Biden?
/

392 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:30:42am
393 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:30:45am
394 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:30:48am

re: #362 OldLineTexan

I am lucky enough to have his "war souvenirs", two swords and a good luck flag, that he purchased (not captured, as he would tell you while chuckling).

If the swords are civilian, not Army issue, have you had them appraised?

395 3 wood  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:30:56am

re: #306 Iron Fist

My grandfather was on a troopship in the Indian Ocean on the way to Japan when the Bombs went up.

My Dad was being retrained for the Pacific theatre after Germany fell when the bomb went off.

He said they were anticipating massive casualties that would make D-Day look like a stroll on the beach if they had to invade Japan.

396 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:31:03am

re: #391 Honorary Yooper

Are you Joe Biden?
/

I heard Joe's new Veep office is in the basement of the GAO.

/

397 J.S.  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:31:17am

re: #380 Nevergiveup

Yes. Malcolm X did change -- as I noted in my post 364 -- but it was late in life -- and as you note, Malcolm X was then assassinated.

398 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:31:23am
399 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:31:42am

re: #121 bosforus

Then try this one. You can use it as your "bush is finally out of office" music or your "here comes obama" music.
If I Only Had a Brain

Funny as well as nicely played.

400 vapig  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:32:20am

On the bright side, however:

Major Al-Qaeda operative killed in US drone strike: Pakistan security
1 hour ago

ISLAMABAD (AFP) — A major Arab Al-Qaeda operative was among six militants killed overnight in a suspected US missile strike in northwest Pakistan, a senior security official told AFP Wednesday.

Security sources identified the militant as Abdullah Azam al-Saudi, a senior member of Osama bin Laden's terror network.

They said US intelligence officials had identified him as the main link between Al-Qaeda's senior command and Taliban networks in the Pakistani border region with Afghanistan.

"He was the man coordinating between Al-Qaeda and Taliban commanders on this side of the border, and also involved in recruiting and training fighters," an Islamabad-based senior security official told AFP.

Sources in the Taliban said al-Saudi was also a member of Taliban's supreme council, or Shura, under its fugitive leader Mullah Mohammad Omar when it moved from Afghanistan to the Pakistani side of the border about a year ago.

"He was closely linked to Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri," a Taliban source added.

Following the strike, al-Zawahiri warned US president-elect Barack Obama against sending more troops to Afghanistan saying that US policy was "doomed to failure" in an Internet audio message.

A security official said the US missile strike was carried out on intelligence that al-Saudi was in a house belonging to a tribesman in the Bannu district, which borders restive North Waziristan.

It was the first alleged US missile strike outside the tribal region which is described by the United States as home to Al-Qaeda's command and control structure.

Terror network chief Osama bin Laden is also widely believed to be hiding in the rugged region, although there is no clear information about his whereabouts.

Al-Saudi is the second high-profile Al-Qaeda operative killed in recent apparent US missile strikes near Pakistan's border with Afghanistan.

Egyptian Abu Jihad al-Masri, described by the US as the terror network's propaganda chief, was among several rebels killed in a November 1 missile strike in North Waziristan, a known hub of Al-Qaeda and Taliban rebels.

At least five Taliban militants were also killed when Pakistani artillery pounded their hideouts through the night in a restive tribal region near the Afghanistan border, local administration official Mohammad Jamil told AFP.

The clashes took place in the Mamoon and Nawagai areas in Bajaur tribal region, where the military launched an operation against Taliban and Al-Qaeda-linked militants in August.

"Troops fired artillery on militant hideouts and underground bunkers Tuesday night, killing five rebels and wounding three others," Jamil said.

Islamabad says its operation in Bajaur refutes criticism by the US and Afghanistan that Pakistan is not doing enough to stop militants crossing the border to attack US and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

Washington has seemingly stepped up its missile strikes on the region since March, when a civilian government took over from General Pervez Musharraf, who turned Pakistan into a close US ally in the "war on terror".

Recent strikes against suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban hideouts, all blamed on unmanned CIA drones, have come despite warnings from Pakistan that such attacks violate international law and could deepen resentment of the United States in the world's second-largest Islamic nation.

Pakistan has officially protested to the United States that strikes violate its sovereign territory, although some officials say there was a tacit understanding between the two militaries to allow such action.

President Asif Ali Zardari recently promised zero tolerance against violations of his country's sovereignty.

401 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:32:29am
402 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:32:44am

re: #391 Honorary Yooper

Are you Joe Biden?
/

OOPS. And I was a math major for 2 years in College?

403 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:33:17am

re: #383 ploome hineni

Jewish women are inSane

Not all of us. My marriage was interracial, was very happy and would have lasted forever, but I lost my husband to juvenile diabetes when he was only 30 and our son was 6. My husband converted to Judaism, we (and then I) raised our son as a Jew, and he married a Jewish woman. I was at the bris of their son, who was born in October, 2007 and who is named for my husband and my father.

404 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:33:33am

re: #381 Kenneth

...or to stop me from eating my sandwich while I typed with the one hand.

Heh. I can see the headline now.
"MASSIVE FOOD POISONING STRIKES INTERNET"
(subhead) "Blog posting down 98%"

405 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:33:37am

re: #400 vapig

President Asif Ali Zardari recently promised zero tolerance against violations of his country's sovereignty.

Interesting, since Pakistan doesn't have sovereignty over huge parts of Pakistan.

406 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:33:43am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

Hell, yeah! Pirates should be shown no mercy. India is right to fight them, as are we.

Commented on this on the left thread. Some replies indicated that people felt that I lacked nuance.

407 3 wood  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:33:45am

re: #390 midwestgak

re: #296 3 wood

At what point does it get dangerously low? 6000? 5000?

Well, 7,000 is a loss of 50% in value. In my mind 7,000 is the key. If it goes below that, it's going to be really bad.

At this point it's looking like 8200 to 8000 is the floor though.

408 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:33:52am

re: #309 Spiny Norman

Get the feeling they're all representative of the Peter Principle?

Spot on!

409 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:34:11am

re: #369 philosophus invidius

"What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly cult of the Jew? Bargaining. What is his worldly god? Money"
--Karl Marx

And your point is? Or is your point an agreement with Marx? Tell us where you sit.

410 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:34:31am

re: #351 rawmuse

Just for jollies, go back to the closing days of WWII and read the NYT pages covering the war in Europe. Same type of coverage, quagmire, we'll never get out (that one may have been true,as we still have bases there) we'll never win over the populace, we'll win, but at what cost, blah, blah. Remarkable.

The primary difference being that back in WWII the NYT was run by isolationists. Now it's run by Marxists.

411 subsailor68  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:34:40am

re: #344 Ward Cleaver

Since 9/11, insurers forbid CEOs from flying commercial. This after Raytheon lost four top execs on the same flight that slammed into the World Trade Center (AA Flight 11, IIRC). The whole corporate jet thing is a phony issue; just another way to bash the automakers.

I do remember the Raytheon tragedy I believe...heck, Raytheon was a major supplier to the boats back in the day.

But I did see this article, which seems to indicate that CEO's are beginning to fly commercial more often:

More CEOs Flying Commercial, Paying for Advisers

(Checked the date, and it's September 2008 - wanted to make sure it wasn't an old, pre-911 piece.)

412 Alouette  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:34:51am

Hahaha! I just got an email from some company in Mumbai, hoping that I will sell their Arafat scarves on my website. Maybe the one with the Satanic symbols on it?

413 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:35:01am

re: #401 ploome hineni

he is a sockpuppet asshole

he is a typing asshole

A typing asshole? How many words a minute does an asshole usually type? Can it make coffee, too?

414 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:35:15am

re: #367 Sharmuta

The nation of islam is pretty much Black Liberation Theology. It's not real islam.

Malcolm X fell out of favour with the NOI for their rigid and idiosyncratic religious thinking. When Malcolm made pilgrimage to Mecca and learned what real Islam is about, he came back and told Elijah Mohammad he had it all wrong. That's when the NOI decided to kill him.

415 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:35:34am

re: #407 3 wood

At this point it's looking like 8200 to 8000 is the floor though.


Will letting the auto makers fail lower the floor?

416 RaiderDan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:35:38am

Hope this guy Al-Zawahri catches a Hellfire missile, business end first, with a "Celebrate Diversity" sticker on it.

The latter will be the extent of the left's contribution to the War on Terror....

417 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:35:39am

re: #409 Walter L. Newton

And your point is? Or is your point an agreement with Marx? Tell us where you sit.


I took it as an example of left wing anti-Semitism.

418 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:35:50am

re: #403 Amy

Not all of us. My marriage was interracial, was very happy and would have lasted forever, but I lost my husband to juvenile diabetes when he was only 30 and our son was 6. My husband converted to Judaism, we (and then I) raised our son as a Jew, and he married a Jewish woman. I was at the bris of their son, who was born in October, 2007 and who is named for my husband and my father.

Mazal tov

Mine is a mixed marriage. I was brought up Catholic, though not practicing, and she is Jewish. We are bringing our daughter up to respect both sides.

419 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:35:52am
420 nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:36:01am

For you Red Sox fans out there:

Red Sox send Crisp to Kansas City for Ramirez

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

421 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:36:15am

re: #371 J.S.

Malcolm X converted to Islam -- or the version of American Black Islam - Nation of Islam version.

I thought he'd reverted when he made the haj and saw muslims from around the world in mecca. He left the nation of islam when he discovered the hypocrisy of elijah muhammed and I think they happened close together.

422 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:37:05am

re: #414 Kenneth

He also discovered elijah muhammed was having an affair.

423 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:37:13am

re: #400 vapig

Sounds restive.

Heh.

424 Big Steve  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:37:22am

re: #415 Killgore Trout

Will letting the auto makers fail lower the floor?

The auto collapse has already been factored into the current market. Typically the market tests the floor three times before rebounding. This is the third time in the last couple of months we have been in the low 8000's.

425 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:37:28am

re: #406 lifeofthemind

Commented on this on the left thread. Some replies indicated that people felt that I lacked nuance.

Hang nuance from the same gallows as the pirates! We should focus on doing justice, and not worry about getting our words just right.

426 jamgarr  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:37:33am

re: #419 buzzsawmonkey

Tell them, "Arafat chance."


Reminded me of my favorite Palistinian doo-wop band - Arafat's Dominoes

427 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:38:05am

re: #413 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A typing asshole? How many words a minute does an asshole usually type? Can it make coffee, too?

You'd be surprised what an asshole can do.

Zune Paint Commercial

Probably NSFW

428 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:38:08am

re: #395 3 wood

My Dad was being retrained for the Pacific theatre after Germany fell when the bomb went off.

He said they were anticipating massive casualties that would make D-Day look like a stroll on the beach if they had to invade Japan.

Pop Reject (my dad) was a gunner aboard a navy destroyer that provided close-in artillery support for Marine landing forces.

He would have been toast...

429 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:38:10am

re: #170 Irene NYC

OMG, 3 wood! Did you see that the NYTs is currently at $6.63?

Lizarsd! Perpare to buy!

430 OldLineTexan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:38:21am

re: #394 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If the swords are civilian, not Army issue, have you had them appraised?

Yes, they are damaged and rusty (from sitting around untended) and both are machine-made.

One is a 1905 pattern Naval saber, and the other is an Army-issue NCO's katana.

431 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:38:32am
432 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:38:45am

re: #409 Walter L. Newton

(Hard) leftists are aligned with the enemies of Jews. In fact they are often themselves enemies of Jews. This goes back to Marx himself as well as to other radicals of the early 19th century prior to Marx.

433 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:05am

re: #419 buzzsawmonkey

Tell them, "Arafatfish chance."

Slightly improved.

434 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:13am

re: #420 nevergiveup

For you Red Sox fans out there:

Red Sox send Crisp to Kansas City for Ramirez

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

You had me worried there for a second. I thought we were getting Manny back. Seems like a give away trade for Boston. A starting quality center fielder for a reliever? I don't know anything about Ramirez though, so maybe it is better than it looks. That was a weakness for Boston last year.

435 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:22am
436 Rancher  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:26am

re: #288 NYCHardhat

I learned a long time ago that anyone in the entertainment business is not in touch with reality. Therefore, I do not take political points from actors, musicians, artists, etc.

Like Charles?

437 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:35am

re: #176 Russkilitlover

Hmmm....Off 20% is considered a crash. We're almost there - are the folks in Congress, Treasury, and Wall St. happy now?

It depends on what their goal was.

438 nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:36am

Also a shout out to any other UNC fans out there. I think I see another national Championship on the horizon. Go Tar Heels!

[Link: tarheelblue.cstv.com...]

439 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:50am

re: #407 3 wood

Well, 7,000 is a loss of 50% in value. In my mind 7,000 is the key. If it goes below that, it's going to be really bad.

At this point it's looking like 8200 to 8000 is the floor though.

Your floor beams are made out of cooked spaghetti..

440 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:57am

re: #418 Ford_Prefect

Mazal tov

Mine is a mixed marriage. I was brought up Catholic, though not practicing, and she is Jewish. We are bringing our daughter up to respect both sides.

Thanks! Having lost most of our family to the Holocaust, it was very important to me to raise our son as a Jew. My husband was raised Episcopalian, but he agreed, and it was entirely his decision to convert; I never asked him to.

441 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:39:58am

re: #413 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A typing asshole? How many words a minute does an asshole usually type? Can it make coffee, too?

I won't be drinking that coffee.

442 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:16am
443 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:16am

since when do they have to define "house negro"
does nobody know the term anymore?

444 J.S.  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:33am

re: #421 Sharmuta

I believe Kenneth has the correct time lime. (I consider the NOI Islamic -- a strange variant, but nonethless Islamic -- there was also that connection between NOI and Abdullah al-Faruq, in Pakistan).

445 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:38am

re: #416 RaiderDan


Cost of a Predator drone: $15 million
Cost of a Hellfire missile: $70,000
Cost of a "Celebrate Diversity" sticker: 99 cents

Seeing Ayman Zawahiwi blown to peices?

Priceless.

446 Ron Shaw  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:38am

Evidently, el/al fajita dos didn't get the global memo that it's an international capitol offense to insult 'the one' by written or spoken word or by any other means such as a mere gesture. The punishment for such offense is adjusted for offender's particular religion, nationality, ethnicity, cave zip code or lack thereof. So, as for you no. 2, how about lighting a match or at least give us a courtesy and flush yourself.
...and BTW, you and numero uno can finally leave the caves after Jan. 20 next year since no one from this country will be as much looking for you much less gunning for you. You might be wise to join your clan at gitmo after BO and his merry men make a Vegas-like gambling casino out of it with y'all in charge...reparations don't you know for all the evil done to you by GW over the last 6 years or so...also, please commence with killing Americans and we humbly apologize for trying to stop you.

447 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:47am

re: #395 3 wood

My Dad was being retrained for the Pacific theatre after Germany fell when the bomb went off.

He said they were anticipating massive casualties that would make D-Day look like a stroll on the beach if they had to invade Japan.

Operation Downfall

In a study done by the Joint Chiefs of Staff in April, the figures of 7.45 casualties/1,000 man-days and 1.78 fatalities/1,000 man-days were developed. This implied that a 90-day Olympic campaign would cost 456,000 casualties, including 109,000 dead or missing. If Coronet took another 90 days, the combined cost would be 1,200,000 casualties, with 267,000 fatalities.

The again:

A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson's staff by William Shockley estimated that conquering Japan would cost 1.7 to 4 million American casualties, including 400,000 to 800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. The key assumption was large-scale participation by civilians in the defense of Japan.[1]

An invasion of Japan would have been a colossal bloodbath, with the Japanese suffering unimaginable losses, both military and civilian. The horror of the Okinawa campaign is what convinced Truman that the atomic bombings were not only necessary, but morally correct.

448 saberry0530  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:49am

re: #427 Ben Hur

You'd be surprised what an asshole can do.

Zune Paint Commercial

Probably NSFW


Not safe for human vision!

449 wiffersnapper  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:51am

Well at least we know AT LEAST how far behind the times The powdered milk hoarding, backwards thinking terrorists really are. Now it's a matter of AT MAXIMUM. lol

450 jamgarr  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:40:52am

re: #435 buzzsawmonkey

I remember their hit:

Oh, yes, I'm walkin' into Nablus
In my headscarf I look fab'lus


My favorite is I found my thrill on the Golan Heights

451 wiffersnapper  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:41:02am

errr, AT MOST

452 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:41:10am

re: #445 Kenneth

Loves it!

453 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:41:41am

re: #432 philosophus invidius

(Hard) leftists are aligned with the enemies of Jews. In fact they are often themselves enemies of Jews. This goes back to Marx himself as well as to other radicals of the early 19th century prior to Marx.

Ok. Your comment seem to be dropped in here without any reference to another post or to what motivated your posting it. I was just wondering if that's how you saw the Jews.

454 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:41:42am

re: #422 Sharmuta

He also discovered elijah muhammed was having an affair.

I saw the movie Malcolm X. How close to true is it?

455 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:41:57am

re: #432 philosophus invidius

(Hard) leftists are aligned with the enemies of Jews. In fact they are often themselves enemies of Jews. This goes back to Marx himself as well as to other radicals of the early 19th century prior to Marx.


Glad I was correct.

456 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:07am

re: #395 3 wood

My Dad was being retrained for the Pacific theatre after Germany fell when the bomb went off.

He said they were anticipating massive casualties that would make D-Day look like a stroll on the beach if they had to invade Japan.

My Father took it for granted that Truman had saved his life. All four of my Uncles who had been in uniform did. That is one reason that being a Democrat was a reflex, added to FDR brining Jews into the government and Truman recognizing Israel.

457 nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:15am

re: #428 CIA Reject

Pop Reject (my dad) was a gunner aboard a navy destroyer that provided close-in artillery support for Marine landing forces.

He would have been toast...

My dad was on Iwo Jima with the 4th Marines. He would have also been on his way to Japan. After having lived thru Iwo, that would have been a bitch for sure. He was thrilled they dropped the Bomb, and so am I, cause it's likely I wouldn't be here if they hadn't!

458 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:18am

re: #442 buzzsawmonkey

...and your father smelt of elderberries.

We are all going to be drinking elderberry (and other home made) booze soon...

459 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:38am

re: #454 midwestgak

I saw the movie Malcolm X. How close to true is it?

They got the title right.

460 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:39am

re: #454 midwestgak

I saw the movie Malcolm X. How close to true is it?

As close to true as Spike Lee is capable of, I suppose.

461 eCurmudgeon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:46am
This is the kind of stuff that might actually turn the far left against Al Qaeda

I rather doubt it, as the left is already convinced Al Qaeda doesn't really exist, and Ayman al-Zawahri is a CIA plant...

462 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:49am

re: #412 Alouette

that's bizarre

of course you would consider selling arafat scarves along with the menorahs. who wouldnt?

/../../../

463 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:42:53am
464 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:43:02am

I was going through my collection of books from a children's publishing house because there was one on Malcolm X. I couldn't find it but I found this great science book on matter and energy!

465 jaunte  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:43:35am

Pirate News:

"Even as the supertanker the Saudi Sirius Star continues to be in the grip of pirates of the coast of Somalia, the Indian Navy appears
to have taken the lead in the fight against pirates. (video)
An Indian warship deployed in the Gulf of Aden fought Somali pirates and destroyed their vessel after a brief battle, the navy
said on Wednesday."


[Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]

466 2senseplain  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:43:42am

re: #417 Ben Hur

But Marx was Jewish. An apostate, but Jewish. Granted, a left-winger who never worked a day in his life and lived off those who did. So I still don't get the point that philosoph was trying to make.

467 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:44:07am

re: #430 OldLineTexan

Yes, they are damaged and rusty (from sitting around untended) and both are machine-made.

One is a 1905 pattern Naval saber, and the other is an Army-issue NCO's katana.

Rats. Excellent mementos, but ....

Some very good swords (cough cough) found their way to America after the war. Some were damned valuable.

Trivia (which doesn't matter in this case), a reputable sword maker would put his mark on the tang. An expert can determine who/where/when from it.

468 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:44:30am

y'know....not everyone living in caves is necessarily a baaaad person. *snif* You guys sound like those Cave-ists I came here to escape.

If LGF is turning Cave-ist, well,... then,.....I'l just take my total lack of salient commenting and completely useless pseudo-humor elsewhere!
//

469 nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:44:41am

re: #418 Ford_Prefect

Mazal tov

Mine is a mixed marriage. I was brought up Catholic, though not practicing, and she is Jewish. We are bringing our daughter up to respect both sides.

My wife and have a mixed marriage also. I work and she spends.

470 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:45:30am

re: #461 eCurmudgeon

I rather doubt it, as the left is already convinced Al Qaeda doesn't really exist, and Ayman al-Zawahri is a CIA plant...

What? I thought he was Mossad.

471 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:46:00am

BTW - Good Morning Lizardia!

472 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:46:03am

re: #447 Spiny Norman

An invasion of Japan would have been a colossal bloodbath, with the Japanese suffering unimaginable losses, both military and civilian. The horror of the Okinawa campaign is what convinced Truman that the atomic bombings were not only necessary, but morally correct.


Chuck Dixon, a rare conservative comic book writer has a mini series out called Storming Paradise, a "what-if" tale about the A-bombs failing & the U.S. had to invade Japan. Very good series so far.

473 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:46:17am

re: #468 hermit

y'know....not everyone living in caves is necessarily a baaaad person. *snif* You guys sound like those Cave-ists I came here to escape.

If LGF is turning Cave-ist, well,... then,.....I'l just take my total lack of salient commenting and completely useless pseudo-humor elsewhere!
//

You're not one of those guys in the Gieco commercials are you? I hate those commercials.

474 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:46:25am

This isn't going to end well.....
BNP members 'targeted by threats'


BNP members have told BBC News they have received threatening and abusive phone calls and e-mails after a leaked document was published online.

The membership list includes police officers, who are banned from BNP membership, teachers and soldiers.

It includes names, addresses, telephone numbers and jobs of 12,000 people.


The Islamists at MPACuk are searching the list for BNP members in their nieghborhoods.

475 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:46:49am

re: #456 lifeofthemind

My Father took it for granted that Truman had saved his life. All four of my Uncles who had been in uniform did. That is one reason that being a Democrat was a reflex, added to FDR brining Jews into the government and Truman recognizing Israel.


Ditto my Pop!

476 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:46:59am

re: #469 nevergiveup

My wife and have a mixed marriage also. I work and she spends.

lol

477 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:05am

re: #468 hermit

y'know....not everyone living in caves is necessarily a baaaad person. *snif* You guys sound like those Cave-ists I came here to escape.

If LGF is turning Cave-ist, well,... then,.....I'l just take my total lack of salient commenting and completely useless pseudo-humor elsewhere!
//

So easy, even a caveman could do it!

478 nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:11am

re: #475 DeafDog

Ditto my Pop!

And mine.

479 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:12am

re: #465 jaunte

Pirate News:

Maybe Charles can add that category to the link list at the top of the page?

480 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:14am

re: #473 Ford_Prefect

You're not one of those guys in the Gieco commercials are you? I hate those commercials.

what is this "commercial" of which you speak? no tv.....

481 vxbush  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:35am

re: #468 hermit

y'know....not everyone living in caves is necessarily a baaaad person. *snif* You guys sound like those Cave-ists I came here to escape.

If LGF is turning Cave-ist, well,... then,.....I'l just take my total lack of salient commenting and completely useless pseudo-humor elsewhere!
//

Coming from you, that's hysterical. Bravo!

I suppose you could go find a shell to use instead....

482 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:40am

re: #474 Killgore Trout

This isn't going to end well.....
BNP members 'targeted by threats'

The Islamists at MPACuk are searching the list for BNP members in their nieghborhoods.

Islamists vs. facists. Can't they both loose?

483 Ezekiel2517  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:43am

He's not a house negro, he's our "token black guy". Get it straight, Ayman!

484 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:47am

re: #477 Spiny Norman

So easy, even a caveman could do it!

Beat ya too it. :-)

485 lifeofthemind  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:49am

But Jewish women are crazy.
/Ducks and runs

486 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:51am

re: #459 Kenneth

They got the title right.

lol

487 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:47:58am

re: #463 ploome hineni

418 Ford_Prefect

re: #403 Amy

how can Hetti and Belafonte's wife stay married, when their spouse is so obviously racially deranged

one of my oldet friends is married to a Christian Orthodox of Syrian/Lbanese desceent

American born, and sympathetic to arabs

always had Jewish friends, the WASPS in his private boarding schol wold not have him as a friend

interned at a Jewish Hospital, married a Jewis woman

STILL thinks that Israel is the problem

and now

so does she

What can I tell you except that in my experience I have found that the vast majority of black people are not "racially deranged." My husband and my black friends were/are all very supportive of Israel and certainly had/have no problem with Jews. People are first and foremost individuals; I try not to make assumptions about anyone.

488 nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:48:02am

re: #480 hermit

what is this "commercial" of which you speak? no tv.....

It runs on the Uncle Milty Show?

489 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:48:09am

re: #455 Ben Hur

me = Jew

490 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:48:21am

re: #479 Kenneth

re: #465 jaunte

Pirate News:


Maybe Charles can add that category to the link list at the top of the page?

Seconded.

Arrrggghhh!

491 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:48:27am

re: #460 Spiny Norman

As close to true as Spike Lee is capable of, I suppose.

I forgot he directed it. Never mind . . .

492 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:49:26am

re: #481 vxbush

Coming from you, that's hysterical. Bravo!

I suppose you could go find a shell to use instead....

I know....so true, it's funny. What do you mean shell?

493 vxbush  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:49:29am

re: #483 Ezekiel2517

He's not a house negro, he's our "token black guy president". Get it straight, Ayman!

Updated.

/

494 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:49:30am

re: #487 Amy

What can I tell you except that in my experience I have found that the vast majority of black people are not "racially deranged." My husband and my black friends were/are all very supportive of Israel and certainly had/have no problem with Jews. People are first and foremost individuals; I try not to make assumptions about anyone.

Hear Hear!

or is that:

Here Here.

Whatever, you get the idea. Upding.

495 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:49:32am

re: #443 Eowyn2

since when do they have to define "house negro"
does nobody know the term anymore?

Maybe not in "racist" America, but you can be sure the enlightened and nuanced cognoscenti of the progressive nations of Europe and Africa know exactly what he's saying.

496 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:49:46am
497 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:49:55am

re: #407 3 wood

Well, 7,000 is a loss of 50% in value. In my mind 7,000 is the key. If it goes below that, it's going to be really bad.

At this point it's looking like 8200 to 8000 is the floor though.

I think it is not possible to call the bottom in this and I've been involved in such for more than a decade. I did call the bottom of the dotbomb bubble within a handful of points. It was easy. This one is much worse than that. Much. There is suspected market manipulation in this one, so it is very difficult to call. I can say there are dark clouds all the way to the horizon. I can say that a lot of money is being made (not just lost) and that the markets are functioning somewhat predictably.

498 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:50:02am

re: #484 Ford_Prefect

Beat ya too it. :-)

Ftthhhhppp.

:^þ

499 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:50:10am

re: #483 Ezekiel2517

He's not a house negro, he's our "token black guy". Get it straight, Ayman!

Token Black?

500 vxbush  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:50:13am

re: #492 hermit

I know....so true, it's funny. What do you mean shell?

Hello? Hermit crab?

/may be too obscure to be called humor

501 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:50:37am

re: #466 2senseplain

But Marx was Jewish. An apostate, but Jewish. Granted, a left-winger who never worked a day in his life and lived off those who did. So I still don't get the point that philosoph was trying to make.

HE explained it pretty clearly.

And there are many Jewish anti-Semites.

Even in Israel.

502 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:51:45am

re: #473 Ford_Prefect

You're not one of those guys in the Gieco commercials are you? I hate those commercials.


How do you feel about the ones with the green LIZARD?

503 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:52:18am

re: #497 Max Darkside

I think it is not possible to call the bottom in this and I've been involved in such for more than a decade. I did call the bottom of the dotbomb bubble within a handful of points. It was easy. This one is much worse than that. Much. There is suspected market manipulation in this one, so it is very difficult to call. I can say there are dark clouds all the way to the horizon. I can say that a lot of money is being made (not just lost) and that the markets are functioning somewhat predictably.

George Soros? Imagine my surprise if that's true...

504 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:52:25am

re: #465 jaunte

That is a definite clean up on aisle 5......the Pirates of Somalia...not to be confused with the Pirates of Penzance.

They are so embolden now....to take a super tanker like that.....Navies of the world will have to start escorting merchant ships in that part of the world. Either that or arm them so they can defend themselves.

505 nyc redneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:52:29am

some of these lowlifes did cartoons depicting condi rice as a pregnant monkey.
they are such fcking barbarians,
one actually went on the o'riley show and tried to explain why the cartoon wasn't racist.
he was such an imbecile w/ his preposterous explanation. he said something like, well, she is pg because the monkey is a female.
and o'reily was livid at the obnoxious s.o.b
he said well, you have depicted her like a monkey.
and the fcking dope kept saying but it is a female monkey,
that kind of craziness. these assholes are really sick.

506 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:52:31am

re: #500 vxbush

Hello? Hermit crab?

/may be too obscure to be called humor

lol - i thought you meant for me to comment into ! y'know so I could just hear myself! haha

of course there was always the lizard shell possibility, since i hatched about a year ago and still have shell stuck to me.....

507 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:53:05am

re: #478 nevergiveup

And mine.

When I was in college, I once tried to make the argument to my father that dropping the A-bomb on Japan was morally wrong. My father went ballistic with mockery. It's not something my father usually did and it taught me a lesson on listening to College professors.

508 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:53:13am
509 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:53:18am

re: #494 Ford_Prefect

:)

We've got to keep on keeping on, FP... We are the most important examples to our children of how to treat others.

510 lefty201  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:53:54am

I sleep in my own house. They live in caves. I have a stove. They have sticks. I poop in my own toilet. They have a hole in the ground and use their left hands.

I think I have it much better him.

Thanks to our men and women in the military who give me this freedom every day.

511 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:54:10am

re: #502 TaeJohnDo

How do you feel about the ones with the green LIZARD?

No problem with those. :-)
Just lose the stupid cavemen. No offense Hermit.

512 Summersong  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:54:14am

GE dips below 15.

Like trying to catch a falling knife.

513 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:54:48am

re: #503 Spiny Norman

George Soros? Imagine my surprise if that's true...

No.

514 neocon hippie  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:54:48am

re: #322 ploome hineni

Harry appears to be mixed-race himself. Does anyone know his parentage?

515 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:55:15am
516 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:55:15am
'Zawahri takes No. 2 on America's No. 1'

Obama better get use to it, there's one helluva line.

Bet ol Medevdev is pissed-off, the SoB's been scratching his hemorrhoids literally itching to go first.

517 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:55:33am

re: #496 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks. That's more than I remember from a book I owned 40-odd years ago.

I bought an unremarkable sword from a specialty shop in Sasebo in the mid-60's. Early Tokugawa Era. Had to sell it during tight times in the 70's. Rats again. (And yes, I had a bottle of oil and a polishing cloth. Through a translator, I had the shopkeeper sell me whatever I needed to care for it.)

518 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:55:46am

re: #511 Ford_Prefect

No problem with those. :-)
Just lose the stupid cavemen. No offense Hermit.

heh. none taken. my cave is more monastic than neanderthal anyways. Green lizards are most welcome guests!

519 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:55:55am

I think most people have the sense that the left-wing is the natural friend of Jews since they stand for "equality." But this ignores the actual history of radical thought.

My quote from Marx was in support of Amy's comment #325. (I should have noted that.)

520 jaunte  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:55:59am

re: #504 Desert Dog

When I read a few weeks ago that a Russian frigate was on the way to the coast of Somalia, I expected the pirates port (Eyl) to be shelled in short order.
[Link: www.google.com...]

521 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:56:37am

re: #509 Amy

:)

We've got to keep on keeping on, FP... We are the most important examples to our children of how to treat others.

Man, I was about to comment on your wisdom, and then I clicked on your avatar and saw that you are a Yankees fan.

Hey Charles, can I unupding? ;-)

522 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:57:06am
523 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:57:13am

re: #337 Spiny Norman

Damn straight. Blow the f*ckers outta the water. None of this namby-pamby "diplomacy" bullsh!t.

We call it "gunboat diplomacy."

524 philosophus invidius  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:57:14am

re: #320 lifeofthemind

I meant that one.

525 Sorge  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:57:20am

re: #68 lobo91

Never seen it, so I don't know.

But "abu" is used to mean "father of___" when followed by a boy's name.

Not in classical Arabic: there "father of" is 'ibn'. For example, Moh's name is Muhammad ibn Abdullah--Muhammad, son of Abdullah.

526 Outrider  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:57:24am

re: #479 Kenneth

Maybe Charles can add that category to the link list at the top of the page?

Where is lo flyer when all this pirate talk is going on?

527 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:57:57am

re: #510 lefty201

I sleep in my own house. They live in caves. I have a stove. They have sticks. I poop in my own toilet.

Lolcat has something to say about that.

528 Rancher  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:58:01am

They estimated around a million casualties for the invasion of Japan. On the History Channel I've seen allot of secret stuff the Japanese had of which the allies had no clue. It would have been very very bad. The straw dog that the Japanese Army would have surrendered without the bomb has been destroyed by the revelation that when the Emperor did record a surrender order the Army took over the Palace in an attempt to destroy the recording.

529 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:58:01am

re: #522 ploome hineni

Jamaican

google

Jamaican google is a mixed race? :)

530 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:58:06am

re: #513 Max Darkside

No.

Really? So who's behind the manipulation? That sort of thing is an old Soros method (he's a fugitive from French justice for such things).

531 jaunte  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:58:17am

re: #526 Outrider

Lurrrrrkin'

532 nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:58:30am

re: #526 Outrider

Where is lo flyer when all this pirate talk is going on?

Why is he a pirate or from Pittsburgh?

533 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:58:33am

re: #508 Kenneth

Breaking News

Oh NO!
Not the SUN!
*groin*
heh

534 jcbunga  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 9:59:15am

Hey, he can't slam our community organizers. Only WE can do that.

Until he stands in line with everyone else, takes the quiz and says the Pledge of Allegiance and becomes a citizen, he needs to stop yapping.

I mean his mouth is open but nothin's comin' out. The boy's gonna get his tongue sunburned. He's gonna get, I say he's gonna get a mothful of flies. This boy's about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. Kinda boy that makes you say "yeeeeeeeeeeugh" if you know what I mean.

Sorry.

I lapsed into Foghorn Leghorn there for a moment.

Anyway, hey Zawafreaky...Cram it!

535 jaunte  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:00:08am

I wonder who sells weapons to the pirates...

536 Outrider  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:00:39am

re: #502 TaeJohnDo

How do you feel about the ones with the green LIZARD?

like to see a commercial in which the caveman eats the lizard. But actually I find both series of ads amusing.

537 lobo91  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:01:05am

re: #525 Sorge

Not in classical Arabic: there "father of" is 'ibn'. For example, Moh's name is Muhammad ibn Abdullah--Muhammad, son of Abdullah.

True. "Abu" is a slang term, primarily Egyptian as I recall.

538 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:01:07am
539 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:01:15am
Trivia (which doesn't matter in this case), a reputable sword maker would put his mark on the tang. An expert can determine who/where/when from it.

Then I am a reputable sword maker.

Internationally renowned, actually.

540 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:01:21am

re: #536 Outrider

like to see a commercial in which the caveman eats the lizard. But actually I find both series of ads amusing.

You canibal!

541 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:01:47am

re: #533 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh NO!
Not the SUN!
*groin*
heh


If you start with puns, there is going to be some ball-busting complaining going on....

542 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:01:57am

re: #535 jaunte

I wonder who sells weapons to the pirates...

I'll bet it's these guys.....

543 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:02:08am

re: #535 jaunte

I wonder who sells weapons to the pirates...

Pirates usually steal such things, but the Islamist radicals in Somalia are supporting them, so start from there.

544 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:02:30am

re: #539 Ben Hur

Then I am a reputable sword maker.

Internationally renowned, actually.

Did you mark your tang?
Did that hurt?
*grin*

545 kaymad  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:03:56am

A little off topic, but it's interesting that at breitbart.com I basically posted what I did here (post 270). I posted at least an hour ago and it's still awaiting moderation, I doubt it will ever be posted. They find it okay to allow racist comments however. I'll never figure out the media.

546 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:03:58am

re: #528 Rancher

surveys of Japanese public opinion polls confirmed the same thing: there was little public support for surrendering. The shock of Hiroshima & Nagasaki broke their will and saved millions of lives.

547 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:04:12am

re: #530 Spiny Norman

Really? So who's behind the manipulation? That sort of thing is an old Soros method (he's a fugitive from French justice for such things).

Let's just say I believe this "collapse" is being "moderated" by large forces, who are opposed by other large forces working in their self-interest, neither of which have evil intentions, but actually positive ones, with a sprinkling of speculation (the jig-jaggies you see in the price charts). When a day of mostly variance comes along, the larger forces are principally watching.

/I know, sounds weird, but this market let down is in part being "managed" from multiple views.

548 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:04:38am

re: #541 TaeJohnDo

If you start with puns, there is going to be some ball-busting complaining going on....

For historians of the Nazi Era, the question now becomes ... did Braun eva complain?

549 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:04:56am
550 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:05:31am

re: #535 jaunte

Their weapons are AK's & RPGs. No shortage of those in that part of the world.

551 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:05:47am

Malcolm X, I'm a Field Negro (audio)

552 Outrider  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:06:04am

re: #532 nevergiveup

Why is he a pirate or from Pittsburgh?

guess he fall victim to "Talk Like a Pirate" day and never came back. But on the other hand, he does it very well. ;-)>

553 Max Darkside  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:06:35am

Of course, if you look back to the Great Depression "collapse" of the markets, it actually took YEARS to unfold, not just overnight.

554 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:06:42am

re: #515 ploome hineni

dear Amy, you live in a bubble, isolated from reality

How many black friends do you have, Ploome? I have been around black people all my life, and I am closer to some of them than I am to my own siblings. They have treated me as a sister, and I have never received anything but love and kindness from them. So please don't presume to preach to me about "bubbles." It is you who are living in a bubble from which you lump everyone in a particular racial group into the "Jew-hating" category based on one study. How many white Evangelicals, do you think, believe that the Jews killed Christ? Quite a few, I'd wager, and such was the official teaching of the Catholic Church until Vatican II.

However, I don't see every non-Jew as the enemy. That's ignorant shtetl thinking that has no place in the US.

555 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:07:24am

re: #548 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For historians of the Nazi Era, the question now becomes ... did Braun eva complain?


That's a tough nut to crack, what with her being gone and all....

556 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:08:50am

re: #555 TaeJohnDo

That's a tough nut to crack, what with her being gone and all....

Still, we should scrotumize the issue (... or the lack thereof.)

557 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:08:55am

re: #555 TaeJohnDo

That's a tough nut to crack, what with her being gone and all....

Alright you guys, I am beginning to get a little testes.

558 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:09:50am

re: #521 Ford_Prefect

Man, I was about to comment on your wisdom, and then I clicked on your avatar and saw that you are a Yankees fan.

Hey Charles, can I unupding? ;-)

Sorry 'bout that. I live in the Bronx - what else can I be? Talking of mixed marriages, my son's wife grew up outside Bahston and is a Sawx fan. She has tolerantly allowed him to dress the little guy in Yankees gear. :)

559 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:10:02am

re: #557 Ford_Prefect

Alright you guys, I am beginning to get a little testes.


So, you're saying you're short?

560 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:10:11am

re: #557 Ford_Prefect

Alright you guys, I am beginning to get a little testes.

Should we not be discussing this in pubic?

561 jcbunga  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:10:32am

re: #523 Who Watches the Watchmen?

We call it "gunboat diplomacy."


Shores of Tripoli...the Marines have dealt with pirates before.

562 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:11:17am

re: #559 TaeJohnDo

So, you're saying you're short?

Or am I just being a big dick? /// and "///" to my other post too.

563 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:11:33am

Somebody came in and I had to disappear from the thread. I apologize if anyone directed a comment to me. I wasn't ignorning you!

564 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:12:12am

re: #562 TaeJohnDo

Or am I just being a big dick? /// and "///" to my other post too.

Maybe it just wasn't what it was semen.

565 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:13:02am

re: #558 Amy

Sorry 'bout that. I live in the Bronx - what else can I be? Talking of mixed marriages, my son's wife grew up outside Bahston and is a Sawx fan. She has tolerantly allowed him to dress the little guy in Yankees gear. :)

Oh that would not happen in my household. I was dating a woman from Brooklyn back during the late 90's and when they were in the World Series she told me that I should rout for the Yankees because it would make her happy if they won. I just couldn't do it though. That relationship was doomed from the start. Different religions, different races, different political ideals all no problem. Yankees fan? Big problem. :-)

566 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:13:23am

re: #564 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Maybe it just wasn't what it was semen.

I should dong you for that.

567 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:13:44am
568 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:13:53am

re: #557 Ford_Prefect

Alright you guys, I am beginning to get a little testes.

Awe nuts. Cashew suck it up and bare it?

569 realwest  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:15:24am

re: #474 Killgore Trout
From your link

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said "everybody has a right to protection under data protection laws" but it was a matter for Dyfed-Powys Police as to whether the matter should be taken further.

And she told the BBC News Channel she did not mind people knowing she was a member of the Labour Party, adding: "I wonder why it is that BNP members are rather more ashamed of their membership."
UKIP leader Nigel Farage said: "It says it all about the BNP that so many of those on their database seem to be worried about being revealed as members. Who would join a party where membership is a social and professional embarrassment?"

[emphasis realwest]
Why, indeed?

570 Rancher  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:15:43am

re: #561 jcbunga

Shores of Tripoli...the Marines have dealt with pirates before.

By putting in a government more to our liking. Unfortunately the current US supported government is corrupt and ineffectual and the Islamic Courts are at the outskirts of Mogadishu.

571 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:15:52am
572 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:16:07am

re: #564 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Maybe it just wasn't what it was semen.


Well, there is a Vas Deferens between a good ball pun and a good dick pun, but all good puns are fluid in nature.

And with that, I'm back to work.

Unless of course, I call in with Blue Ball Fever. (I'll tell that story someday.)

573 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:16:39am

Oh, Lord. I leave and y'all regress to Junior High with the dirty talk.

"I'm sorry, I c*nt hear you...I have an infucktion in my ear."
574 debutaunt  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:16:48am

re: #415 Killgore Trout

Will letting the auto makers fail lower the floor?

Nah. The unions will bail them out.

575 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:16:57am

re: #566 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I should dong you for that.

OH brother! ... *grin* ... Seriously, this is turning into a [comeback deleted] contest. I've got a potential one for that which I can't, in decency, use.

576 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:17:13am

re: #566 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I should dong you for that.

There is a vas defferens between coarse humor and wit.

577 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:17:41am
578 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:17:53am

re: #570 Rancher

By putting in a government more to our liking. Unfortunately the current US supported government is corrupt and ineffectual and the Islamic Courts are at the outskirts of Mogadishu.

What government? Somalia is proof of what happens when HOA's get too much power.

579 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:18:24am

re: #573 redstateredneck

Oh, Lord. I leave and y'all regress to Junior High with the dirty talk.

LOL!

See, lady, you were the only thing which was saving us from ourselves!

580 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:18:27am

re: #565 Ford_Prefect

Oh that would not happen in my household. I was dating a woman from Brooklyn back during the late 90's and when they were in the World Series she told me that I should rout for the Yankees because it would make her happy if they won. I just couldn't do it though. That relationship was doomed from the start. Different religions, different races, different political ideals all no problem. Yankees fan? Big problem. :-)

LOL! Human beings are interesting creatures, to say the least. Even if everyone were the same color and the same religion and spoke the same language, we'd still find something to separate ourselves from "the Other." Brown eyes good, blue eyes bad!

581 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:19:36am

re: #579 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!

See, lady, you were the only thing which was saving us from ourselves!

Next time I leave, I'm puttin' somebody in charge to take names!

582 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:19:47am
583 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:20:51am

re: #576 calcajun

There is a vas defferens between coarse humor and wit.

In other words, some of us might be prostatuting ourselves?

584 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:22:10am

re: #581 redstateredneck

Next time I leave, I'm puttin' somebody in charge to take names!

LOL!

585 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:23:18am

re: #583 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In other words, some of us might be prostatuting ourselves?

Spell-check is your friend. But, yes, you may have put your finger on something there.

586 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:24:56am

At first glands, I thought I might have.

587 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:25:14am

re: #580 Amy

LOL! Human beings are interesting creatures, to say the least. Even if everyone were the same color and the same religion and spoke the same language, we'd still find something to separate ourselves from "the Other." Brown eyes good, blue eyes bad!

So true. And yes, brown eyes are good.

*Bats eyes

588 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:25:39am

re: #576 calcajun

There is a vas defferens between coarse humor and wit.

and a vast difference between correct spelling and not. :)

589 Rancher  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:26:51am

re: #582 ploome hineni

What we need are more blacks like Jesse Jackson who believe in a "Rainbow Coalition".

590 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:27:00am

BTW, no quack, cave-dwelling, mad-bomber, camel-jockey insults MY President!

See, we can say it now. It's even somewhat liberating. Remember kids, politics should end at the water's edge.

591 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:27:10am

re: #588 midwestgak

and a vast difference between correct spelling and not. :)

This talk may not be appropriate for pubic consumption.

592 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:27:43am

re: #588 midwestgak

and a vast difference between correct spelling and not. :)

Does that mean you are anatomically correct? ;)

593 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:28:11am

re: #588 midwestgak

But to a punster, there is a vast difference between correct spelling and good spielling.

594 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:28:28am

re: #591 Ford_Prefect

This talk may not be appropriate for pubic consumption.

From your lips to God's ears.

595 littleben  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:28:43am

Why blame Zawahiri? The President(-elect) of the "US of KKA" is obviously
a stooge of the racists.
Send Reverend Wright to negotiate with Zawahiri ( and Ayers, Khalidi and Pfleger can be in his supporting cast)


s/ dreaming cynically

596 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:29:03am
597 Amy  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:29:13am

re: #567 ploome hineni

You're right that I don't know about your personal and professional relationships - that's why I asked, and I notice you didn't answer my question.

And yes, I believe in the power of one-on-one relationships. All I've got to offer is myself and what I stand for as an American and a Jew. There are also a lot of racist Jews out there, in case you hadn't noticed; I had some in my own family who spoke disparagingly of "the Schwarzes." But let's not air the dirty linen in public, huh Ploome?

I feel sorry for you, because you seem to see antisemites under every bed. They're out there, all right, and they come in all colors and nationalities, but, unlike you, I don't go looking for them to confirm my worldview. I prefer to look for the good in people instead, and I usually find it if it's there.

I've got to get to an appointment. Have a nice day.

598 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:30:01am

re: #590 calcajun

BTW, no quack, cave-dwelling, mad-bomber, camel-jockey insults MY President!

See, we can say it now. It's even somewhat liberating. Remember kids, politics should end at the water's edge.

um, when I'm convinced the pres is for (proud of) MY Country, then I can say it.

599 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:30:15am

I think the ladies have killed this thread.
(-:

/OUR fault to begin with? ... CERTAINLY not!

600 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:30:54am

re: #593 pre-Boomer Marine brat

But to a punster, there is a vast difference between correct spelling and good spielling.

lol

601 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:31:37am

re: #596 ploome hineni

anyone remember when LGF used to be the blog that fact checked your ass?

This place has always been run with the iron fist of accuracy. :)

602 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:32:19am

re: #596 ploome hineni

anyone remember when LGF used to be the blog that fact checked your ass?

I'm just under a year here, ploome, but I thought it still was.
At least, that's the way I approach it.
Has it degenerated?

603 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:32:23am

re: #599 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I think the ladies have killed this thread.
(-:

/OUR fault to begin with? ... CERTAINLY not!

well, pBMb....it was going to be difficult for some folks to say "yeah, remember? I made that point back on the penis thread."
not me, but y'know...someone who makes points and all. heh

604 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:32:47am

re: #599 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I think the ladies have killed this thread.
(-:

/OUR fault to begin with? ... CERTAINLY not!

No, they're just pointing and laughing at us.

605 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:34:51am

re: #603 hermit

I made that point back on ....

No, I won't
No, I won't
No, I won't
No, I won't
No, I won't

606 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:35:21am
607 hermit  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:35:51am

re: #605 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL! yes, you will.

608 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:37:10am
609 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:38:23am

BBL ... got stuff which HAS to get done.

610 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:38:49am
611 midwestgak  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:39:14am

re: #597 Amy

{Amy} Is it worth all this explaining? Brick walls don't move easily.

612 kulhwch  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:39:20am

Hey, he can't do that to our pledges.

Only we can do that to our pledges.

}:)     [Yet another spurious Animal House reference ... ]

613 kulhwch  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:45:30am

re: #17 Daryl Herbert

Where do you think Zawahiri learned the term "house negro"?

From Democrats, of course! Talking about Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice.

Now, this is just me putting together jigsaw pieces, but what if Obama concocted this when he went over for his visit last year and spoke with them on the down-low.  He could tell them what to say, they could say it, and there'd be controversy.  Meanwhile he tells loudmouth Biden to tell people that surely Barry will be tested within his first six months as president.  Then this hits the fan after the election, Barry gets to puff up and handle the ensueing 'crisis', Biden is vindicated, everyone is cool.

}:)     [I agree, the American vernacular is a dead giveaway.]

614 redstateredneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:47:09am

re: #604 calcajun

No, they're just pointing and laughing at us.

You got that right.

615 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:47:47am

re: #613 kulhwch

Adam Gahdan is responsible for the American vernacular. And Joe Biden was thinking of something much more serious than Zawahiri calling Obama names. This is not a crisis. This is a joke.

616 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:48:43am
617 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:48:51am

re: #598 midwestgak

um, when I'm convinced the pres is for (proud of) MY Country, then I can say it.

Amen.
If dissent is patriotic, I'm gonna be freaking Paul Revere.

618 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:51:13am

re: #547 Max Darkside

Let's just say I believe this "collapse" is being "moderated" by large forces, who are opposed by other large forces working in their self-interest, neither of which have evil intentions, but actually positive ones, with a sprinkling of speculation (the jig-jaggies you see in the price charts). When a day of mostly variance comes along, the larger forces are principally watching.

/I know, sounds weird, but this market let down is in part being "managed" from multiple views.

Paulson and Buffett don't want a total armageddon to happen right after HopeyChangey got elected.

Since Soros is also a HopeyChangey supporter, he's probably working to keep things afloat too.

Hey, if the 3 of them want to artificially support the market for 4 years, great!

619 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:51:37am

re: #615 Kenneth

Adam Gahdan is responsible for the American vernacular. And Joe Biden was thinking of something much more serious than Zawahiri calling Obama names. This is not a crisis. This is a joke.

I thought Adam Gahdan was taking a dirt nap? You mean he's not room temperature? Perhaps he wrote a book, "American Slang for Muslims" before he shook off his mortal coil and joined the choir invisible.

620 calcajun  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:52:46am

re: #617 Hooray for Captain Spaulding

Amen.
If dissent is patriotic, I'm gonna be freaking Paul Revere.

He's proud of the US. It was the Missus who until recently was not so proud.

621 Hobbes  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:53:46am

re: #114 funky chicken

LOL

It' true I heard him say it on Rush's show today.

622 Hobbes  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 10:57:59am

re: #144 tfc3rid

Correlation?

Wall Street deals with the future.

623 lostlakehiker  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:01:38am

re: #8 Dave the.....

Anything that hints of racism against The One will make the news. Racism trumphs other PC boogymen.

It's racist to stand up for Obama, because in so doing, you make this Arab look bad, and anything that reflects badly on any Arab is racist.

It's racist to not stand up for Obama, because you would have stood up for any other fellow American.

Mustn't be racist. Choose A. No, wait, Choose B. No, wait. Does ...not....compute.

/head explodes

624 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:07:04am

re: #616 ploome hineni

what is your point?

you do not believe the ADL and PEW surveys?

Ploome, stop looking for a fight. Amy just used her personal experience to make a point and you used surveys to make yours. Personal experience often contradicts surveys, scientific or not. There is nothing here worth getting all fired up about.

625 CoolShades  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:14:13am

"This election has uncovered disturbing strains of bigotry and intolerance that should be addressed by anyone who seek to lead our nation. ...fear-mongering using faith and ethnicity should never be an acceptable way to sway public opinion."

CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad

Dec. 15, 2008 Press Release

Looks like Al Qaeda needs some sensitivity training.

626 nikis-knight  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:14:58am

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

You make an interesting point.

The disparagement of the "House Negro" implies, by its nature, the exaltation of the uneducated "Field Negro"--in other words, elevation of the ignorant as being somehow more "noble" than those who, by intelligence and ability, were able to better themselves as far as the available opportunities permitted.

This is the prototype of "keeping it real"--and also the foundation for the "disavowal of middleclassness" embraced by the Right Racist Reverend Wright and his church.


I don't know if it is exaltation of the ignorant so much as that the most victimized has the most moral authority in the leftist worldview.

627 Hobbes  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:29:41am

re: #589 Rancher

What we need are more blacks like Jesse Jackson who believe in a "Rainbow Coalition".

Possibly Jews won't even be able to vote in the next election.

628 Tazzerman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:34:53am

This will NOT turn the far left against AQ for any number of reasons not the least of which is the fact that the true believers of the far left are convinced that AQ was created by Bush & co and that they trot out Zawahiri anytime they need a lift or a distraction.

Hell half the koolaid sippers on the far left are clueless as to Zawahiri is to begin with.

Go read the current comments on this topic in the fevered swamp that is the Democratic Underground and you'll see.

629 right_wing2  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:48:28am

Oh, just wait for the Chosen One to throw Israel under the bus. The Alquis (pronounced 'Alkies', to go along with the Hezzies and the Hammies) will rejoice at his rejection of the Joooooooos.

630 WV.Hillbilly  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:49:21am

The word that hasn't been mentioned...yet.

Apostate.

631 Sir Napsalot  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:52:00am

The Egyptian physician had been under Evil Bush's payroll for the past 7 and a hafl years, don't you know?

/left brain thinking

632 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:52:06am

re: #630 WV.Hillbilly

The word that hasn't been mentioned...yet.

Apostate.

Yes. At Obama's age, a physician like Zawahri should check his apostate.

633 Throbert McGee  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:57:59am

re: #50 lobo91

Actually, the word you're looking for is "abd," not "abu."

Correct -- thus the name "Abdullah" is actually a contraction of the phrase meaning "slave of Allah." (Although apologists for Islam would doubtless prefer the translation "servant of God.")

634 yochanan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 11:59:39am

re: #496 buzzsawmonkey

I use japanese woodcut hand made carving tools the blades are so much better don't like the handles all the much though as i hold the tool western fashion japanese wood cut block carvers hold the tool differently.

635 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 12:26:17pm

Notice that Zawahiri has picture of BHO kneeling in a Mosque? At least it sure looks like him! This is not Obama is a Fuslim but rather proof of his sychretism- the peaceful coexistence of his early Muslim upbringing with Rev. Wright flavor Christianity.

636 yochanan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 12:31:26pm

re: #597 Amy

less be a little less nieve the NOI, AND OTHER BLACK NATIONALIST ARE VERY ANTI SEMITIC.

JESSIE JACKSON'S HYMIETOWN remark was what he really believed. the farther to the left you go the less likely you will support israel. no suprises here.

and amy liberal guilt baiting doesn't work with me at all. as i personally have gotten into altercations when leftist attacked jewish student org. many of the attackers were afro americans.

637 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 12:39:13pm
638 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:04:18pm
re: #515 ploome hineni

42% of African Americans believe that Jews were responsible for the death of Christ

Isn't that what the Bible (New Testament) says? Last time I checked, Jesus was a Jew who was set up for execution by some other Jews.

I'll tell you what's 'rediculous' ploome - taking that out of context fact as a measure of anti-semitism.

639 MTF  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:06:02pm

Now that the election is over, it's suddenly very cool to be able to hit Pakistani targets from drones with great precision. ABC even writes admiringly of our military abilities, and quotes Pakistanis thusly:

"Most of the population is a sort of hostage, and they know that these people have made our life miserable. They say -- if there's a correct target -- good riddance."

How things have changed in two weeks!

640 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:09:34pm

re: #638 Jimmah

Isn't that what the Bible (New Testament) says? Last time I checked, Jesus was a Jew who was set up for execution by some other Jews.

I'll tell you what's 'rediculous' ploome - taking that out of context fact as a measure of anti-semitism.

Taken out of context, it might not be conclusive evidence of black antisemitism. Seen against a background of ubiquitous Jew-bashing statements from spokespersons for the black community, however, it makes sense and fails to surprise. On the other hand, the American blacks are not as antisemitic, in my experience, as the Caribbean (largely Jamaican) group we have in Canada.

641 littleben  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:10:35pm

re: #636 yochanan

Anti-Semitism among Blacks is virulent. Even a classic lefties like Nat Hentoff addressed it in his book a generation ago.

Amy,put on a yarmulka and walk through any densely populated Black area in New York and you will see first hand what we are talking about.

IMHO, it started not with Yiddish speaking or culturated Jews who refer to Blacks as "shwartzes", but as an assertion of self identity against the patronizing paternalism of mostly Reform and secular Jews. Do you know that at one time, one-half of the Board of Directors of the NAACP were white Jews.
Some of it is also turf war, as the only white neighborhoods which allowed Blacks to move into and integrate were Jewish ones.
Also, a significant proportion of educated Blacks have bought into the Palestine/apartheid calumny.
To his credit, Obama has steered clear of any of these dynamics, as his background is not from the ghetto to Ivy league experience which has informed so many black intellectuals.

642 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:10:37pm
643 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:13:42pm
644 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:14:31pm
645 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:15:33pm

re: #644 ploome hineni

doncha love those closet mother fuckers like Jimmah

Jimmah is English, IIRC.... this is normal over there.

646 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:19:09pm
647 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:21:00pm
648 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:23:41pm

re: #646 ploome hineni

:D

/%&*() filthy buggers

I thought of moving to the UK some years ago - I have dual Canadian/British citizenship - but I decided I'd be in trouble with my Jewishness, my pro-Israel views, my views on ethnic divisions in general. So I'm still here.

649 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:26:24pm

re: #642 ploome hineni

you are the one doing that

the Bible says no such thing...you must be talking about the gospels

and obviously you did not read the link describing the PEW SURVEY...

not mine, the PEW SURVEY

referring to Jews as CHristKillers has long been an attribute of antisemites

My bible here is split into old and new testaments. The gospels plus a few other bits comprise the New Testament. It seems to me that any group that has a high percentage of christians could be revealed as anti-semites on being asked if they thought that Jews killed Christ, because that is precisely their belief as christians.

interesting you should choose to attack me

Surely you know more about attacking people on LGF to mistake that for one?

650 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:26:25pm
651 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:28:00pm

re: #650 ploome hineni

cool

happy you are here

were you at McGill?

My PhD was at Laval, in Quebec City.

652 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:28:15pm

re: #644 ploome hineni

re: #646 ploome hineni

Quite simply, ploome, you are disgusting.

653 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:28:17pm
654 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:28:48pm
655 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:29:45pm
656 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:30:21pm
657 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:30:34pm

re: #649 Jimmah

"My bible here is split into old and new testaments. The gospels plus a few other bits comprise the New Testament. It seems to me that any group that has a high percentage of christians could be revealed as anti-semites on being asked if they thought that Jews killed Christ, because that is precisely their belief as christians."

Most Christians I know believe that the Romans killed Jesus, at the behest of a particular Jewish element in Jerusalem. Modern, educated Christians that I am aware of do not collectively blame the Jews. Where the fuck do you get off with this shit?

658 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:30:58pm

re: #656 ploome hineni

:D

Psychology?

Yes, clinical. I'm licensed.

659 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:31:29pm

re: #643 ploome hineni

for you Jimmah, the koran is the new testament

So, because I disputed the meaning of your 'fact', I'm a muslim.

This sort of idiotic crap is the reason I normally avoid talking to you.

660 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:32:00pm
661 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:33:37pm

re: #659 Jimmah

So, because I disputed the meaning of your 'fact', I'm a muslim.

This sort of idiotic crap is the reason I normally avoid talking to you.

Fuck off, creep.

662 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:34:12pm

re: #660 ploome hineni

I am licenced also

and I have my shots

:D

Too late, you have a lot of rabid views.

663 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:34:16pm
664 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:35:44pm
665 Ron Shaw  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:36:11pm

re: #473 Ford_Prefect

You're not one of those guys in the Gieco commercials are you? I hate those commercials.

I hate those commercials, too.The latest revolting development in this ad campaign is...while at the newest James Bond movie with one of the huge screens, there it was...a goofy cavemen commercial...crap!

666 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:36:33pm

re: #657 Moe Katz

"My bible here is split into old and new testaments. The gospels plus a few other bits comprise the New Testament. It seems to me that any group that has a high percentage of christians could be revealed as anti-semites on being asked if they thought that Jews killed Christ, because that is precisely their belief as christians."

Most Christians I know believe that the Romans killed Jesus, at the behest of a particular Jewish element in Jerusalem. Modern, educated Christians that I am aware of do not collectively blame the Jews. Where the fuck do you get off with this shit?

Where do you get off more like? You really are claiming ignorance of the fact that the bible story has Judas - a Jew - betraying Jesus to thoise Romans, and then when given the opportunity to free him, a gethering of Jews chooses to free some criminal instead? As I said christian belief is that the Jews had Jesus set up for execution. In many peoples minds thats pretty much amounts to being responsible for his death. That is beyond argument, unless you have a radically different bible to mine.

667 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:36:41pm
668 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:36:49pm

re: #664 ploome hineni

*slurp*

you think so?

I will not sit still when crap like Jimmah try to define the history and birthright of my people

That was a pun on your statement that you'd had your shots.

669 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:38:02pm
670 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:38:38pm

re: #666 Jimmah

Where do you get off more like? You really are claiming ignorance of the fact that the bible story has Judas - a Jew - betraying Jesus to thoise Romans, and then when given the opportunity to free him, a gethering of Jews chooses to free some criminal instead? As I said christian belief is that the Jews had Jesus set up for execution. In many peoples minds thats pretty much amounts to being responsible for his death. That is beyond argument, unless you have a radically different bible to mine.

The notion that the Jews are collectively responsible for that has been repudiated by all of mainstream Christianity. Where have you been? Again, fuck off, creep.

671 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:42:15pm
672 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:43:34pm

re: #671 ploome hineni

what is obscene is that the Gospels, instead of being seen as an anti Judiasing tract, is taken verbatem

and Jews are believed to caused the death of GOD

Jimmah.................................. don't you believe that Jesus , the MESSIAH, was born, came to earth to DIE FOR YOUR SINS?

was that GODS plan?

or did the JEws do it?

Your point is valid but I wouldn't continue to engage him.

673 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:44:19pm

re: #661 Moe Katz

Fuck off, creep.

That's your reaction to the fact that I reacted (midly imo) to being called a 'closet motherfucker' and 'filthy bugger' with no provocation? Does that seem reasonable to you?

What kind of an idiot are you?

674 Forever  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:44:38pm

I would not be surprised if the far left tolerates bigotry and racism from this Al Qaida dude. That's how blind hatred made them.

The progressives are not progressive anymore. But then, didn't Churchill once said: the Fascists of the future will be those who call themselves anti-fascists.

675 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:45:43pm

re: #673 Jimmah

That's your reaction to the fact that I reacted (midly imo) to being called a 'closet motherfucker' and 'filthy bugger' with no provocation? Does that seem reasonable to you?

What kind of an idiot are you?

Being addressed by you has all the charm of having one's leg engaged by an amorous male dog. Bugger off.

676 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:45:45pm

re: #670 Moe Katz

The notion that the Jews are collectively responsible for that has been repudiated by all of mainstream Christianity. Where have you been? Again, fuck off, creep.

Don't try to twist my words. I never said that the Jews were collectively responsible for the death of Jesus and would never subscribe to that sort of garbage.

677 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:46:15pm
678 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:47:39pm
679 Moe Katz  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:50:53pm

re: #676 Jimmah

Don't try to twist my words. I never said that the Jews were collectively responsible for the death of Jesus and would never subscribe to that sort of garbage.

I bet you're male. You brought this on with your provocative smartass tactics and you deserve the reaction you're getting. Go away and come back another day, huh?

680 Jimmah  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:50:53pm

re: #675 Moe Katz

Being addressed by you has all the charm of having one's leg engaged by an amorous male dog. Bugger off.

Seems you're the purple faced apopleptic big vein sportin' type of idiot. But don't worry, I'm done wasting time on this. You and ploome have fun wiping the froth off your keyboards.

681 RoyalCanadian  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:55:16pm

That's "White House" negro to you sparky!

682 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:57:11pm

re: #436 Rancher

I don't take political points from Charles just like he doesn't take them from me. Is he here to force his agenda down anyone's throat? I don't think so. I think he is here to present the information as accurately as possible. Am I suppose to be part of the herd, or can I think for myself?

683 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:07:38pm

If Obama doesn't immediately deliver what the American left wants, we'll hear the same language from them. This is not a racist tirade. Al-Zawahri is playing to his public and playing it very well. See how far they've already come. The entire election of Barack Hussein Obama is capitulation to their demands. Al-Zawahri is looking beyond 2012, 2016.

684 Red Lion  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:08:26pm

Now it's ON!

685 Jimash  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:12:17pm

re: #475 DeafDog

Ditto my Pop!

Me too.
Dad on Okinawa in August 1945. Me born 1955.
Easy math.

686 realwest  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 4:14:23pm

test

687 Perplexed  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 4:42:21pm

Poor baby. Obambi had better toughen up his hide. Compared to what Bush goes through every day, this is tame.

688 Cygnus  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 5:45:45pm

I had to log on just to upding this comment. Brilliant! LOLOL!

re: #3 Iron Fist

And here I thought the Lightworker was going to usher in a new age of peace and tolerance, where a more humble America is loved throughout the world. I am so disillusioned.

689 grahamski  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 7:06:44pm

re: #24 Woodstock


Bought and paid for

Just like the majority of the corrupt, criminal politicians that pervade our government.

690 sfcmac  Thu, Nov 20, 2008 3:01:08pm

Zawahiri's pissed at Obama? The same Obama who cavorts with members of the Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, The Nation of Islam, and the Arab American Action Network? The same Obama that drew endorsements from Hamas and Palestinian fund raisers in Gaza?

That Obama?

Zawahiri didn’t get the memo.


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