The Seamy Story of the ISB Mosque Project

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US News • Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 1:49 pm PST • Views: 209

The Boston Phoenix has a huge new piece on the Islamic Society of Boston’s mosque project, a story of government corruption, Islamic extremism, and piles of cash from oil-rich Arab states: Menino’s mosque.

Most locals concede that getting anything of substance accomplished in Boston is a Herculean task. Residents have all but embraced the principle of civic inaction with a perverse kind of local pride. In the end, who you know is probably more important than what you are trying to do. And there is no doubt that little is accomplished without the approval and support of the mayor, Thomas M. Menino.

So it is with the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center (ISBCC) near the intersection of Tremont Street and Martin Luther King Boulevard. Better known as the Roxbury mosque, the ISBCC has been in the works for more than 20 years. A few weeks ago it finally opened its doors for prayer — five years late, millions over budget, and still far from complete.

While the story of the building of the Roxbury mosque may not be worthy of a Hollywood epic, it does contain the stuff of a good television drama: community intrigue, religious conflict, media controversy, foreign money, suspicions of extremist ties, and once-cocksure public officials who have since retreated into a zone of silence.

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1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:50:08pm

What does a Muslim with a Boston accent sound like?

2 poopeedoo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:50:12pm

Sounds like a "huge piece" alright.

3 poopeedoo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:51:44pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What does a Muslim with a Boston accent sound like?

Do they say, "Paak the caaa" the same way?

4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:51:58pm

Charles? That picture is really cool. Can't it be on the front page too? Are there copyright problems with that?

5 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:52:13pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What does a Muslim with a Boston accent sound like?

They prah to Ah-llah in the mahsque.

6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:53:29pm

Allaaah Ackbaaah?

7 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:53:52pm

What, corrupt pols, funny money, etc...in Boston?! ///

8 poopeedoo  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:54:01pm

re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Charles? That picture is really cool. Can't it be on the front page too? Are there copyright problems with that?

The photo of the guy with the bow tie holding a tray?

9 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:54:57pm
10 CalBear84  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:57:03pm

America is being sold off bit by bit to whomever has the cash.

11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:57:07pm

re: #8 poopeedoo

The photo of the guy with the bow tie holding a tray?

Yeah. He appears to be serving up a little "sumptin sumptin".

12 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:57:20pm

Are the Muslims in Boston Red Sox fans?

13 harrylook  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 1:58:45pm

Surprising article. The Phoenix is as left-wing as you get, even in Boston.

You would not believe the size of the mosque, btw. If you've been to Boston and seen the Christian Science cathedral, it's about that big...

14 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:00:27pm

Get used to it.

15 looking closely  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:01:37pm

I used to live not too far away from it.

The mosque is in a bad part of town, though the Boston Metro police HQ isn't too far away.

Its right across the street from Roxbury community college and literally on "Malcom X" blvd (irony can be pretty ironic, sometimes).

16 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:01:57pm
The ISB is a suburban, immigrant group of Muslims who have been drawn from around the world, primarily from the Middle East and South Asia, to the area's universities, research centers, and hospitals. And, according to many local black Muslims, including some who were involved in the initial development, the ISB has, from the beginning, not seemed eager to include them. A project that had originally been conceived as a collaborative effort among all the local Sunni mosques, they say, became the exclusive project of one outside group.

"They [the ISB] didn't have a sense of the indigenous Muslims and our history," says Imam Taleeb Mahdee of Masjid al-Quran, a Dorchester mosque on Intervale Street. "They were looking for space. We were looking for something to represent Boston."

This is how Wahabism is spreading throught the Muslim world and beyond.

Indonesia.
Bosnia. (uh oh)
And other "not so extreme" Muslim societies.

Saudi money moves in and plants Wahabism.

17 harrylook  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:02:09pm

Slightly OT, here's a funny site that pokes fun at Mumbles Menino.
[Link: www.mumblesmenino.us...]

18 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:04:41pm
according to David Shlosh, who was the al-Manzil executive handling the discussions at the time

How ironic is that?!?

20 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:07:21pm
The ISB began working closely with federal agents soon after 9/11, according to several sources. Documents show that the mosque officially adopted a "Know Your Donor" program in 2003, through which contact information of any donor who gave more than $5000 would be collected and turned over to authorities. "The FBI was vetting the contribution list, with the ISB's help," says one source who worked closely with the ISB. As a result, "in 2003/2004 the money dried up. . . . People in Saudi Arabia were worried about the FBI breathing down their neck."

Why?

21 PISSED  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:07:26pm

I live north of Boston and refuse to go to the city unless ABSOLUTELY necessary. The moonbats here just reelected John Kerry and Barney Frank as well as voting AGAINST ending the income tax. ITs CRAZY... NOw this mosque... just what Roxbury needs .. a place for its disadvantaged youth to hang out... follow my drift?
I feel that the chicken coup is left open and the fox is being invited in by a handful of chickens that think they can make nice...
Moving out of this state next year and not soon enough...

22 snowcrash  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:07:30pm

re: #13 harrylook
Does Roxbury have a large Muslim community now?

23 lincolntf  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:07:30pm

This mess was profiled (to no avail) by the Boston herald last year. Sadly, it looks like nothing has changed. It's an absolute disaster waiting to happen.
I don't know if this is widely known, but the wife of the (possibly "ex-"?) publisher of the Phoenix is Judge Maria Lopez who gained local notoriety for upbraiding prosecutors in cases that involved child-rapists.

24 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:09:00pm
25 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:09:18pm
26 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:09:48pm
27 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:10:19pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What does a Muslim with a Boston accent sound like?

cah boom !

28 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:11:12pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What does a Muslim with a Boston accent sound like?

Ablownup Snack bah

29 PISSED  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:11:52pm

re: #26 ploome hineni

Thanks : )

Been this way since seeing the direction this country is taking...

people need to be more educated that Oprah and the view and the lamestream media...

I hope for the best but I feel a bad time coming...

30 nyc redneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:14:00pm

how abt. the islamic world welcome christians and jews the way we welcome moslems?
or maybe just quit targeting them for murder would be a nice start.

31 PISSED  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:16:36pm

re: #30 nyc redneck

Nice try hahhahahah... they said a bad word about the chosen one today and CNN got their hackles all in an uproar!

32 alegrias  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:16:46pm

OT

Equally Revolting:

George Mason University (Northern Virginia) Receives $1.5 Million Gift for Chair in Islamic Studies

[Link: gazette.gmu.edu...]

(Yes, our Pentagon--which was attacked on 9/11--is located in Northern Virginia which now brags about taking dough from the IIIT which Charles Johnson has discussed as a silly outfit)

33 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:17:33pm
34 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:17:56pm
35 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:20:17pm
So it is with the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center (ISBCC) near the intersection of Tremont Street and Martin Luther King Boulevard. Better known as the Roxbury mosque, the ISBCC has been in the works for more than 20 years. A few weeks ago it finally opened its doors for prayer Baal worship — five years late, millions over budget, and still far from complete.

Sorry, needed editing and correction.

36 alegrias  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:20:58pm

Why would Northern Virginia's GMU want to "position the university as a leading authority in the field of Islamic studies."?

HALP US, John Kerry!

[Link: gazette.gmu.edu...]

37 Cato the Elder  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:25:08pm

re: #19 Paul

Hamas "scientist": Bayer discovered a treatment for AIDS after reading the words of the Prophet concerning the wings of flies.

This, I must say, makes the Creationists and ID folks look like geniuses.

38 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 2:41:03pm

re: #10 CalBear84

America is being sold off bit by bit to whomever has the cash.

Personally speaking, when they said that referring to the Japanese, I was much less concerned.

:^þ

39 DobermanBoston  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 3:02:39pm
Residents have all but embraced the principle of civic inaction with a perverse kind of local pride.

...you ain't just whistlin' "Dixie" (or "Southie is My Hometown", for that matter).

40 notutopia  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 3:06:45pm

It appears that in Boston some people are more equal than others.
*SPIT*

41 DobermanBoston  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 3:13:16pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What does a Muslim with a Boston accent sound like?

"I had to kill my sistah, to restoah my family's fucken' onahh."

Farrakhan was "one of ours", by the way, until he fled Roxbury to become Harry Belafonte's roadie. He actually made Calypso records in Boston in the 1950s as "The Charmer" when he was still Gene Wolcott.

42 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 3:19:04pm
43 nyc redneck  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 3:20:44pm

re: #39 DobermanBoston

...you ain't just whistlin' "Dixie" (or "Southie is My Hometown", for that matter).

is that a photo of your dog? he is a handsome lad.
i love dobies.

44 Janjan  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 3:27:42pm

Wow Dobe, that is an awesome bit of trivia. Somebody else beat me to the Aaaallahu aaakbaaah. And remember it's pronounced "Mohammit", and "Aisher" (as in "Aisher an Ahy went to the muawsk, an herd about Mohammit")

45 DobermanBoston  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 3:51:02pm

re: #43 nyc redneck

is that a photo of your dog? he is a handsome lad.
i love dobies.

Nah, just an avatar for my nickname.

I love the breed as well and would love to own a rescue Dobie in the future if/when time and space permit.

46 louis  Wed, Nov 19, 2008 8:37:49pm

Here in Boston, a friend of mine contacted the local head of the ACLU, some time ago, to see if they would get involved. It is a classic church and state case. He was told that she was unaware of the case (even though the Boston Herald ran a multi-part series on it and it had been on local Fox TV). Who would want to spend time on this when there are so many creche on the town square cases to deal with.

47 loggiedog  Thu, Nov 20, 2008 5:32:14am

People should see the scale of that mosque. It's enormous. There's this huge scrolling LED text sign out front This building looks like a transplant right from Saudi Arabia, except that it is made partly of local materials like brick. It is Middle-Eastern in scale; it is not your everyday house of worship with a single minaret. There are no synagogues in Boston of that scale, and few churches approach the size of that building. Since the mosque is in Roxbury, a depressed neighborhood, there must be significant proselytizing in the area to convert the local poor population.

48 harrylook  Thu, Nov 20, 2008 5:37:27am

re: #22 snowcrash

Does Roxbury have a large Muslim community now?

That's nothing new, AFAIK. Roxbury has many small mosques that you would drive by and not even recognize as a house of worship. What's new is this monstrous, very in-your-face type of mosque. What's also new is a public partnership to build it.


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