Yeah, DOW futures are already down triple digits.

/this is getting beyond ridiculously oversold

Fools are a dime a dozen. Wish they weren't so deeply involved in politics.

Ding! I've got (hate) mail!

Everybody plays the fool

re: #2 BlueCanuck

Fools are a dime a dozen. Wish they weren't so deeply involved in politics.

*Paging Mr. Obama*

re: #1 Killian Bundy

Where do you find the futures predictions?

Up for air. Take a breath.

Recount: Norm Coleman’s lead over Al Franken shrinks

With the first day complete tonight in a state-mandated recount in the contest for U.S. Senate between Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and Democratic challenger Al Franken, Coleman’s lead shrank by nearly 20 percent.

Based on a Star Tribune analysis of partial recount numbers released this evening by the Secretary of State’s Office, Coleman lost a net of 41 votes and now holds a 174-vote advantage. He started the day up by 215.

These new numbers come after the state has recounted 18 percent of the ballots. They come from 27 percent of the state’s precincts. At this point, Coleman has lost 86 votes, while Franken has lost 45.

Observers for the two candidates together are challenging 269 ballots so far. Coleman is contesting 146, Franken 123. The challenged ballots will go before a State Canvassing Board for a final determination.

/not a good trend

Sometimes it's fun to be fooled!

"Euripides?

I no rip a these. You rip a these?"

~ Chico Marx

re: #6 BlueCanuck

Where do you find the futures predictions?

US Futures & Markets Indicators

/back to double digits down

re: #8 Killian Bundy

There is something "nutty" about this whole affair, ya think?

re: #8 Killian Bundy

Recount: Norm Coleman’s lead over Al Franken shrinks

/not a good trend

Franken's gonna win. Already bought this election. Personally, I think the voters in Minnesota should be ashamed of themselves.

re: #3 Wyatt Earp

Ding! I've got (hate) mail!

Wow! I may not be a very cop friendly person, but even in my book, that email was a out of bounds!

re: #3 Wyatt Earp

On this site?

re: #14 NoGardtheGreat

Wow! I may not be a very cop friendly person, but even in my book, that email was a out of bounds!

Especially a day after one of my co-workers was killed in the line of duty.

re: #15 Nightwatch

On this site?

No, some knucklehead said he likes when cops get killed (and wished I would be shot in the head) on my site.

re: #13 Wyatt Earp

Personally, I think the voters in Minnesota should be ashamed of themselves.

/tell me about it, I live in noonbat central

re: #1 Killian Bundy

Yeah, DOW futures are already down triple digits.

/this is getting beyond ridiculously oversold

When it gets to four digits, page me.

re: #18 Killian Bundy

/tell me about it, I live in noonbat central

I think I need the eye bleach again. :)

re: #10 Ringo the Gringo

"Euripides?

I no rip a these. You rip a these?"

~ Chico Marx

You pay for deese.

re: #11 Killian Bundy

Thanks, that helps me out a bit. Should have known to go to a news site.

Nikkei down almost 7%

re: #10 Ringo the Gringo

"Euripides?

I no rip a these. You rip a these?"

~ Chico Marx

Euripides? Eumenides!

re: #24 gmsc

Euripides? Eumenides!

Euroclydon!

Have a good night lads

re: #3 Wyatt Earp

The S&W .357 was a fine sidearm for most lawmen up intil the 60's
Why did......oh that's right...not Pee-Sea!

Coming up next: The first episode of our new TV documentary series about the origins of the current financial crisis. But first, a word from our sponsor - The Cayman Islands!

It'll be interesting to see how companies in general will handle paying out their dividends in the quarters to come.

re: #29 spirochete

It'll be interesting to see how companies in general will handle paying out their dividends in the quarters to come.

In general, the dividends get cut so current yields are in line with interest rates.

In theory, it doesn't much matter, the dividend becomes retained earnings and raises stock price by about the same amount.

re: #27 Nightwatch

The S&W .357 was a fine sidearm for most lawmen up intil the 60's
Why did......oh that's right...not Pee-Sea!

Philly is about to let us move on up to .45s instead of the 9mm Glock 17. I almost had a heart attack when they told us. I guess losing five officers in the line of duty in 13 months makes the brass "re-evaluate" things.

re: #3 Wyatt Earp

Ding! I've got (hate) mail!

Your style of self deprecating humor is hilarious, though I would have gone with "Canadian Snipers" for an added punch.

Those Canucks have a talent.

G'nite Lizards.

Speaking of guns, are there any publicly owned stocks (no, not that kind) available for handgun/shotgun manufacturers?

re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth

Your style of self deprecating humor is hilarious, though I would have gone with "Canadian Snipers" for an added punch.

Those Canucks have a talent.

G'nite Lizards.

Nite, SB. Thanks!

How are the Asian and European markets looking?

Why I Don't Approve of My Congressman

Polls routinely show that most Americans give very low approval ratings to Congress as a whole, but give much higher ratings to their own representatives.

That's not true in my case - My senator is Harry Reid.
:(

re: #2 BlueCanuck

Fools are a dime a dozen. Wish they weren't so deeply involved in politics.

what we need to do is hunt down and kill the silly bastard handing out all the f'ing dimes........

re: #36 gmsc

Why I Don't Approve of My Congressman

That's not true in my case - My senator is Harry Reid.
:(

I hear ya. Mine is Arlen Specter.

re: #37 redc1c4

Rockefeller?

re: #33 Boogberg

Ruger [NYSE Symbol RGR] and Smith & Wesson Holdings [Symbol SWHC]

re: #31 Wyatt Earp

Philly is about to let us move on up to .45s instead of the 9mm Glock 17. I almost had a heart attack when they told us. I guess losing five officers in the line of duty in 13 months makes the brass "re-evaluate" things.

given the mayor's policy on civilian guns, they ought to disarm y'all..... just to set the example.

/no personal offense intended

re: #38 Wyatt Earp

I hear ya. Mine is Arlen Specter.

mine are Fine Swine and Boxer Shorts

re: #41 redc1c4

given the mayor's policy on civilian guns, they ought to disarm y'all..... just to set the example.

/no personal offense intended

None taken. This is what happens when your city has a 60-year uninterrupted Democrat mayoral rule.

re: #35 Fenway_Nation

How are the Asian and European markets looking?

Sell-off accelerates in Asia

/you asked

Well, it's 3am. I fold. Good night, Lizards!

re: #45 Wyatt Earp

Well, it's 3am. I fold. Good night, Lizards!

G'Night!

Night Wyatt, keep on keeping the peace. And weet dreams.

re: #40 Fenway_Nation

Ruger [NYSE Symbol RGR] and Smith & Wesson Holdings [Symbol SWHC]

Thanks Bro! Me and my boss (and the guys in the office) were wondering about that today (yesterday, actually). Awesome!

re: #17 Wyatt Earp

Let me say, I live in the land of El Norte Hollywoode. Have "dropped a perp" (no 357, but steel pipe works in a pinch) cause LAPD was too slow.
Cop killers even in this neck of the woods still get "special physical adjustments/permanent realignments of normotensive function,since the ruling class in this state are such pussy's on capital punishment. (Special brands are used in certain areas of the state to ensure positive ID and physical censure terminus after they get out of their Life sentences in 2-3 years due to the 9th jerkit court of banana-peels.

re: #43 Wyatt Earp

None taken. This is what happens when your city has a 60-year uninterrupted Democrat mayoral rule.

good friend of mine (10th Mtn 11B, Blackhawk Down day vet) was walking home and was accosted by a derelict. even though he had a CCP and was packing, he handled the situation with nonviolent means.

he wound up in jail, charged by the bum. the cops raided his house, took all his guns, and stole a bunch of stuff too, and he's been fighting first the charges and then to get his guns back ever since......

lovely town you have there.

re: #45 Wyatt Earp Night, be safe

re: #49 Nightwatch

Let me say, I live in the land of El Norte Hollywoode.

howdy neighbor!

re: #50 redc1c4

Thats why you never leave a client for a lieyer

Don't ya know?

re: #53 Nightwatch

Thats why you never leave a client for a lieyer

Don't ya know?

my friend *is* a lieyer..... you'd have thought he'd have known better, having grown up there and all.....

re: #52 redc1c4

Serious? Name the best place for Garlic Bread and steaks.....Not a trick question thinking....near the studios...

Well, the London exchange is open and it looks like it's a race to the bottom right now.

re: #56 BlueCanuck

While i'm waiting for Red, here's my # for the pool....Dow to 4000

re: #3 Wyatt Earp

Ding! I've got (hate) mail!

"Your hate-mail box is full!"
quote from Chicken Little, as Little's dad is fielding crank calls and hate-mail!

L8r folks.

re: #55 Nightwatch

Serious? Name the best place for Garlic Bread and steaks.....Not a trick question thinking....near the studios...

my house..... of course. the wine cellar and scotch selection is killer, even if the cook is an asshole. %-)

but have you ever been to Tacos Manzano there on Burbank between Vineland and Lankerslime? it's about 2 blocks east of Anawalt, more or less kitty corner from the Mcdonalds on the SW corner with a liquor store next door.

as for the steaks, do you mean the old school place there south of Riverside across from the big studio? can't remember the name, only been there once. the steak joynt on lankerslime was pretty good, but it's now a Mini Cooper lot. it was just down from Ernies, on the same side.

Night OMD. Take care out there.

re: #56 BlueCanuck

Well, the London exchange is open and it looks like it's a race to the bottom right now.

Here's the latest on the Asia/Pacific averages and the European averages. It's not pretty.

re: #59 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

L8r folks.

G'Night!

re: #56 BlueCanuck

Well, the London exchange is open and it looks like it's a race to the bottom right now.

Kind of funny how the world was so anxious to see America taken down a peg, and it bites them in the ass, huh?

re: #60 redc1c4

make that 2 blocks west of anawalt.....

d'oh!

re: #60 redc1c4

DING DING DING DING....."A Winner!"

Shit, damn close too....

Neighbor!

re: #56 BlueCanuck

Well, the London exchange is open and it looks like it's a race to the bottom right now.

Good morning Lizards from a beautiful spring day in Durban SA. I think I got this link from here. Very good.indexrecord

re: #64 Sharmuta

Kind of funny how the world was so anxious to see America taken down a peg, and it bites them in the ass, huh?

they got what they wanted, and they deserve to get it good and hard.

no sympathy here.

re: #64 Sharmuta

Yeah, I would be laughing if I wasn't crying. Just hope I get enough coin in the near future to start taking advantage of all these deals/steals going on. Just hope my mom is doing okay with all this. Think I will call her on the weekend to check.

re: #64 Sharmuta

Schadenfeude to their Schadenfreude.....

re: #68 redc1c4

they got what they wanted, and they deserve to get it good and hard.

no sympathy here.

I'm with you, red. Bunch of damned ingrates, and I pity them not.

re: #67 Erik The Red

Thanks, going to add that to my links at home.

re: #62 gmsc

Here's the latest on the Asia/Pacific averages and the European averages. It's not pretty.

/we blow through another 300 DOW points without rebounding tomorrow and "it's a bottomless pit, baby, two-and-a-half miles straight down"

re: #66 Nightwatch

DING DING DING DING....."A Winner!"

Shit, damn close too....

Neighbor!

well, we used to live over by NH Toyota, but we moved just a couple miles and one town over a few years back.

if you like *real* Thai, there's a good place on Riverside in the shopping center one block west of Cahuenga..... name is something like "Piryaa" (missing a few letters) right next to Domino's.

the food is good, the prices reasonable and the lady who runs it is a sweeheart. too bad her husband is a complete asshat. they were doing well until 9/11 when the studios cut out the lunch deliveries.....

re: #71 Sharmuta

I'm with you, red. Bunch of damned ingrates, and I pity them not.

While they focus on the fact that America is better situated when times are good, we're also better situated to handle it when times are bad, as well.

The world's grasshopper has been hoping things would turn bad for the American ant, but forgot that the ant had been preparing for bad times as best it could in the first place.

Even proof of Jewish lineage on the land for thousands of years, and non-political digs which completely comply with agreements made by the P.A. are described as "occupation" and an attack on the Arab people by Israel.

If a completely legal dig, in accordance with an arrangement agreed upon by both parties is described by the media as a slight against the Arabs, what hope is there that once there is a final agreement between the parties that creates a Palestinian state that it will be seen as enough?

Israel must give nothing, because even everything wouldn't be enough.

I'm out.

re: #73 Killian Bundy

/we blow through another 300 DOW points without rebounding tomorrow and "it's a bottomless pit, baby, two-and-a-half miles straight down"

just think of all the suckers that "bought on the bounce" today......

might be a bad day to walk outside on Wall Street tomorrow.

Everyone tells me that I should cherish the days where all I have to worry about is schoolwork.

Screw that. I'd rather work any day than deal with school, and that's no BS.

re: #78 TheMatrix31

Everyone tells me that I should cherish the days where all I have to worry about is schoolwork.

Screw that. I'd rather work any day than deal with school, and that's no BS.

then you go to w*rk, and i'll go to school.

/good trade on my end..... %-)

re: #78 TheMatrix31

Some of my best education I have recieved has been outside the walls of the classroom. I find if I want to learn something I do better reading it myself without a teachers filter in front of it.

Interesting also is their attack on King Herod based on one false "testimony" which is generally considered not to be a Historical fact.

Just another way to attack the tenants of Judaism... Its getting ugly!

re: #74 redc1c4

Livin up near the old F M station club, man this place has converted big time, do you remember "Nudie"s" just below magnolia where all the H-wood stars got their western wear?

re: #73 Killian Bundy

we blow through another 300 DOW points without rebounding tomorrow and "it's a bottomless pit, baby, two-and-a-half miles straight down"

"You have to see with better eyes than that."

:)

re: #80 BlueCanuck

Ditto- I learned more Spanish tromping around South America for 3 months with a backpack than I ever did after 6 years of jr. high and high school Spanish.

re: #80 BlueCanuck

Some of my best education I have recieved has been outside the walls of the classroom. I find if I want to learn something I do better reading it myself without a teachers filter in front of it.

yeah, but at school, they won't fire you, as long as you get minimum passing grades and come up with the tuition, even if you stay there for years....

w*rk can fire you, even if you're doing a good j*b.

re: #85 redc1c4

yeah, but at school, they won't fire you, as long as you get minimum passing grades and come up with the tuition, even if you stay there for years....

Until you say something un-PC and get a prof mad at you. Then you get hauled before the dean of students to explain yourself.

You'd better have either a good lawyer or cojones of steel, otherwise you'll be on academic probation at the very least.

re: #86 victor_yugo

He-ya...how goes the battle?

re: #82 Nightwatch

Livin up near the old F M station club, man this place has converted big time, do you remember "Nudie"s" just below magnolia where all the H-wood stars got their western wear?

drive by your AO all the time..... i only moved to the area in 01, but i remember Nudies from when i was the repo man and other times after that.

bonus points to any other LNDT lizard who knows what FM stood for.....
double bonus points for the other famous club located nearby

re: #86 victor_yugo

Until you say something un-PC and get a prof mad at you. Then you get hauled before the dean of students to explain yourself.

You'd better have either a good lawyer or cojones of steel, otherwise you'll be on academic probation at the very least.

been there, done that, have cajones of RHA.

re: #86 victor_yugo

That would be me. :) I was always questioning and calling teachers out on "Facts" they would spout off in class. Think that what pissed them off the most was that I would turn out to be right.

/Did it twice to one teacher and she stopped questioning me.

Arizonan will head Homeland Security

Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano (D) has been chosen to serve as secretary of the vast and troubled Department of Homeland Security for President-elect Obama, Democratic officials said. Napolitano is a border governor who will now be responsible for immigration policy and border security, which are part of Homeland Security’s myriad functions.

Like the markets need another excuse to tank.

/could we be any more [expletive deleted]?

I'll take my chances with being fired. I'd rather not have schoolwork. Like BlueCanuck said, I learn more outside the classroom. Not even about the teacher in this case, I'm just sick of constructing graphs using stupid programs and commands. Give me the graph and I'll interpret it, that's fine. Don't make me create the graph and deal with the handling of hard data.

Ukraine down 28%

re: #91 Killian Bundy

Arizonan will head Homeland Security

Like the markets need another excuse to tank.

/could we be any more [expletive deleted]?

Un-freakin-believable.

So it's okay for HER to be a border governor, but when Sarah Palin talks about her proximity to Russia, she's a joke?

Get out of here.

re: #90 BlueCanuck

That would be me. :) I was always questioning and calling teachers out on "Facts" they would spout off in class. Think that what pissed them off the most was that I would turn out to be right.

/Did it twice to one teacher and she stopped questioning me.

I had one who refused to allow me to answer after awhile. Told the class, "We know Sharmuta knows the answer- does anyone else?"

vast and troubled Department of Homeland Security

Seven years w/o an attack. It will be interesting to see what kind of border secrurity we get now. Can't be much worse than under Bush.

re: #92 TheMatrix31

Graphs are simple with hard data. That's what Excel and spreadsheets are for. Amazed some people with some of the tricks I pulled off with that program.

re: #92 TheMatrix31

I'll take my chances with being fired. I'd rather not have schoolwork. Like BlueCanuck said, I learn more outside the classroom. Not even about the teacher in this case, I'm just sick of constructing graphs using stupid programs and commands. Give me the graph and I'll interpret it, that's fine. Don't make me create the graph and deal with the handling of hard data.

take my word for it.... you *need* the piece of paper. look at school as just another j*b. you don;t have to like it, you just have to do it.

i have the skills, experience and insight that several companies i know of are dying for, but i can't even get considered because of the degree requirement, even with *high* level recomendations.

Good News, Really

Believe it or not, I think this picture is actually good news.

This is a little flawed, since we would expect a constant trend to be a constant percent increase each year, which would be upward curving on this chart, not a straight line trend (it would be straight on a log scale). Never-the-less, it makes a point (by the way, it is interesting the 1980's are considered the decade of greed on Wall Street rather than the 1990s, from this chart).

Here is a better way to make my point. We get a similar chart if we look at PE ratios for the S&P500 (the chart in the full post is on trailing 10 year average earnings).

Why is this anything but depressing? Because I get the sense that many people, without any other general indicator of how bad things are in the financial markets, are using the steep drops in the stock market as a proxy measure. The stock market looks like a disaster, so everything else must be a disaster.

But in a large sense, at least so far, all the stock market has done in the last 2 weeks is return to historical norms. This tells me that there is nothing about the current level of the stock market that is screaming disaster signals. In fact, the current level of the stock market is screaming normalcy.

Of course, this does not mean the drop will stop here. PE's in the worst of times have headed on down to 5 (which would be about DOW 3000, yuk). And corrections seldom stop at the mean - they usually over-correct on below the mean. But seen on these charts, this recent move looks more like the completion of the correction to the late 1990's bubble rather than necessarily an indicator of current financial disaster.

re: #88 redc1c4

Had the horse rearin' on the sign....but I'll shut up.....

and say goodnight to ya all

re: #87 Nightwatch

He-ya...how goes the battle?

Not good. As evidence, I'm posting. Nerves are getting rankled, and tomorrow I have to call the landlord to let him know about a screw-up on my part.

However, I have an interview Monday afternoon, doing something I think I'll enjoy. The only drawback is that it's a 45-minute drive away, and winter hasn't yet hit us with her worst. But for a $5/hr raise, I think I'll find a way.

re: #95 Sharmuta

Also had a class like that. Got to the point when the teacher asked if some one had done a particular task on a computer before taking the course, he would end it with Blue, keep your hand down.

/Would have done a Prior learning Assessment to get out of it if I knew what had been involved.
//Course name? Micro Computer Management, what was it? Upgrading hardware and software.

re: #98 redc1c4

take my word for it.... you *need* the piece of paper. look at school as just another j*b. you don;t have to like it, you just have to do it.

i have the skills, experience and insight that several companies i know of are dying for, but i can't even get considered because of the degree requirement, even with *high* level recomendations.

Listen to red, Matrix.

re: #95 Sharmuta

I had one who refused to allow me to answer after awhile. Told the class, "We know Sharmuta knows the answer- does anyone else?"

had an instructor for Euclidian Geometry..... after a few sessions, we either never got to my assigned problem before the end of class, or he just skipped over it at the begining.

i had another one in Govt that was full of shit, and he got off on badgering the co-eds in the class. when they couldn't answer, he'd pester them to tears, so after the 2nd or 3rd time i'd jump in and answer. he'd get mad, and then i'd ask him a question he couldn't answer...... the girls all loved me, but never *that* much.

re: #95 Sharmuta

I had one who refused to allow me to answer after awhile. Told the class, "We know Sharmuta knows the answer- does anyone else?"

re: #102 BlueCanuck

Also had a class like that. Got to the point when the teacher asked if some one had done a particular task on a computer before taking the course, he would end it with Blue, keep your hand down.

/Would have done a Prior learning Assessment to get out of it if I knew what had been involved.
//Course name? Micro Computer Management, what was it? Upgrading hardware and software.

I guess once you see blue, you know their answer it true!

/Except blue state voting, of course

re: #103 Sharmuta

Listen to red, Matrix.

Yeah, I know. Trust me, I've realized it. If it wasn't for the stupid paper, I would have dropped out of HS and gotten by on my own merits.

re: #100 Nightwatch

Had the horse rearin' on the sign....but I'll shut up.....

and say goodnight to ya all

hasta..... see ya at Monzanos!

re: #97 BlueCanuck

Graphs are simple with hard data. That's what Excel and spreadsheets are for. Amazed some people with some of the tricks I pulled off with that program.

Here's a neat one:

LGF commenting activity based on thread per time. I generated the data a few summers ago.

re: #108 victor_yugo

I don't even want to know how much time you spent on getting the data for that. But I guess it would have been easier back then. Fewer retrobates like us around.

crappy day, crappier evening, except for here....

took a bunch of drugs so it's off to bed.

here's to tomorrow (today) sucking just a little bit less.

(not that it will..... %-P

hasta y'all

L8r!

re: #108 victor_yugo

Here's a neat one:

LGF commenting activity based on thread per time. I generated the data a few summers ago.

/um, where's the axis labels, kind of important when generating graphs, don't you think?

re: #109 BlueCanuck

I don't even want to know how much time you spent on getting the data for that. But I guess it would have been easier back then. Fewer retrobates like us around.

i thought you were a master at bates?

/white smoke

Damn

re: #109 BlueCanuck

Gathering the information wasn't the bad part. I had to parse out only what I needed, then import it, and then mangle the thread #'s and the time stamps (broken into 15-minute blocks) into unique ID's. Once that was done, the rest was relatively easy.

Even so, on my 2.5GHz dual-core AMD64, OpenOffice.org 3.0 takes a good 3 minutes to open that spreadsheet. Yes, I still have it. It's one of my better hacks. ;-)

re: #111 Killian Bundy

/um, where's the axis labels, kind of important when generating graphs, don't you think?

The longer numbers at the bottom are time, going left to right. The shorter numbers on the right are thread #'s. The vertical axis is the number of comments in a 15-minute period.

Good night red. Try not to get into too much trouble today.

/what am I saying? You ARE trouble.
//white smoke

re: #115 victor_yugo

The longer numbers at the bottom are time, going left to right. The shorter numbers on the right are thread #'s. The vertical axis is the number of comments in a 15-minute period.

Yeah, I kinda guessed that.

/but I shouldn't have to, proper graphs label the axis units says my experimental psychology experience

Too much smoke in the LA area over the last week. Good night, Red!

Holy cow, that chart used 12,792 comments from 13 postings for its input.

IIRC, I grabbed the stories that were on the front page at the time, which means the main page at some point on July 16, 2006.

okay, i MUST go to bed

BTW, correction: My original input set had 12,792 comments on 78 posts, but my chart input used only the first 13 posts in the set.

re: #1 Killian Bundy

Yeah, DOW futures are already down triple digits.

/this is getting beyond ridiculously oversold

Looks like we're going to test the Oct 03' lows but boy, with all the caca going on, there's very good reason and every to suspect it could get a lot worse.

I'm sure going to looking around at sentiment if - or maybe I should say when - we get around 7700 on the Dow(not that far) - if there isn't any real panic - whoa baby, Houston...do we ever have a problem. The worse case I've heard so far is DJI in low 5k's. A good friend and broker at C was saying some of their people were getting and talking about numbers in the mid-6k area, Monday. It'd sure be nice to just test the 03' numbers but man, I just don't know.

Scarin' the crap outta me, that's fer sure.

Mornin folks.

Morning aboo. Low the horror talk this earlyin the morning. Keeps me awake at least.

Goodnight all!

I'm curious to see where some of the precious metals are going to bottom out at.

re: #122 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Looks like we're going to test the Oct 03' lows but boy, with all the caca going on, there's very good reason and every to suspect it could get a lot worse.

I'm sure going to looking around at sentiment if - or maybe I should say when - we get around 7700 on the Dow(not that far) - if there isn't any real panic - whoa baby, Houston...do we ever have a problem. The worse case I've heard so far is DJI in low 5k's. A good friend and broker at C was saying some of their people were getting and talking about numbers in the mid-6k area, Monday. It'd sure be nice to just test the 03' numbers but man, I just don't know.

Scarin' the crap outta me, that's fer sure.

Mornin folks.

/we blow through another 300 DOW points without rebounding tomorrow and "it's a bottomless pit, baby, two-and-a-half miles straight down"

Night gmsc, weet dreams.

Desperately trying to stay awake until fruitcup...

So yesterday I get mail from Chrysler offering me up to $70,000! credit to go out and buy a car - no questions asked - because they don't offer that kind of money to just anyone, donja know. (Trust me, my credit rating's not THAT good!)

At least it's nice to know I'm finally getting the same deal that illegal immigrants get!

So my question is...if these banks and other lenders go belly-up do I have to pat back the loan?

pay, she said.

/see? :-/

re: #13 Wyatt Earp

Franken's gonna win. Already bought this election. Personally, I think the voters in Minnesota should be ashamed of themselves.

Look on the bright side.

It will be bad for the denizens of the Gopher state, but great fun for the rest of us to have this loutish orangutang disgracing the halls of the Senate for six years. Trying to be serious and productive will be far and away the funniest thing he ever did, and his salary will be a pittance compared to what brain-dead pop-culturists normally pay him for his lame attempts to be deliberately funny.

There is no telling what he will do. Given his sixties inspired penchant for intolerance, for example, we may see the first senatorial fist-fight since the 19th century. A cottage industry will spring up around covering his gaffes, goofs, ignorance, and thuggery. This will all have to be on the net, of course, since the MSM will cherish him as one of their own (which he is).

re: #128 littleoldlady

Gee- because loaning money out willy-nilly to anyone hasn't caused enough problems, eh?

re: #128 littleoldlady

Tough call. But why would you want to buy a Chrysler? Kia makes some good, if not better, vehicles. ;)

re: #131 Sharmuta

Resisting temptation these days is a function of opening my mail over the trash can.

/house is certainly cleaner...

;-)

re: #132 BlueCanuck

Why would I need $70,000 to buy ONE car? Where I come from that's 2-1/2 cars!

Does This Graph Make Sense?

Just playing around with it. The prompt is;

"Make a labeled scatterplot showing the relationship between percentage change in Gross Domestic Product per capita between 1970-2000 and percentage change in youth literacy rate in the same period"

I created the X-variable as the % change in GDP Per Capita by generating 100*(GDP2000-GDP1970)/GDP2000.

Then I created the Y-variable as the % change in Youth Literacy Rate by generating 100*(ylit2000-ylit70)/ylit2000.

Does that graph make sense to you guys? The graph creation is the most confusing part for me.

Or even 3-1/2.

/also math challenged...

re: #134 littleoldlady

All those little extras that creep in. Like extended warranties, moon roofs, killer stereo systems. . . . . . . .

re: #137 BlueCanuck

All those little extras that creep in. Like extended warranties, moon roofs, killer stereo systems. . . . . . . .

Yeah, lol. Go for it- get a pimped out 300M with all leather interior.

re: #126 Killian Bundy

That's what's buggin me and when I go cruisin' around the net, there's no real sense of the full implications of what's going on. Which to me is the real problem, a kind of a reality disconnect or maybe a better descriptor would be a false sense of security.

We go crashing through, say, 7400 watch the buzz as folks go, WTF!

re: #135 TheMatrix31

Does This Graph Make Sense?

Just playing around with it. The prompt is;

"Make a labeled scatterplot showing the relationship between percentage change in Gross Domestic Product per capita between 1970-2000 and percentage change in youth literacy rate in the same period"

I created the X-variable as the % change in GDP Per Capita by generating 100*(GDP2000-GDP1970)/GDP2000.

Then I created the Y-variable as the % change in Youth Literacy Rate by generating 100*(ylit2000-ylit70)/ylit2000.

Does that graph make sense to you guys? The graph creation is the most confusing part for me.

/no, you need to be able to provide coherent axis unit labels on the graph, how else is the viewer supposed to know WTF you're trying to represent?

re: #137 BlueCanuck

Bwahahaha! Do you know who you're talking to?!

Let me put it this way....do you know how hard it is to find a car with manual crank up/down windows?

;-)

re: #140 Killian Bundy

/no, you need to be able to provide coherent axis unit labels on the graph, how else is the viewer supposed to know WTF you're trying to represent?

/also, many plots overlap to the point of being unreadable and WTF is with the red line?

re: #141 littleoldlady

LOL, and here I thought you weren't tech impaired. ;)

/could be worse. Friend asks me to set his BMW for all sorts of things.

re: #143 BlueCanuck

When it comes to cars my philosophy is, "Don't sell me something that can break."

re: #144 littleoldlady

In that case, don't buy domestic BIG 3 vehicles.

/unless they are classics. Can I interest you in a Model A?

re: #134 littleoldlady

Why would I need $70,000 to buy ONE car? Where I come from that's 2-1/2 cars!

/throw in $15K and you got yourself a Viper

re: #125 Fenway_Nation

Did you know it's about impossible to take delivery of gold bullion or coin? I was reading(marketwatch, I think) folks were paying as much as a 20% premium over spot for the deliverable.

Another disconnect, the market spot price is not reflective of what the markets are truly commanding.

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Oh yeah, I know. I haven't labeled anything yet. That's why I explained what each axis meant in that little description.

And the directions call for the each point to be labeled with the country. I don't like that either, makes it way too cluttered.

And the "red line" is supposed to be a "trend line" that goes through the data. From what I gathered from the lecture, it represents the "median" or something. I don't know, he just has us put it in there.

Fruitcup is indeed a joyous occasion- especially when said fruitcup is 'enchanced'

Yeah, fruitcup time. Thank you littleoldlady.

Has anyone ever actually eaten fruit when fruitcup was disbursed? I went and got myself a plate of cold grapes. Didn't even realize it was already 2am. Sheesh.

Fruitcup makes suffering the pirate p0rn worthwhile.

Mornin Lol, got the Everclear and Stinky Stoli out - any preference?

re: #147 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Percentage-wise, it's worse with silver. And spot price for that is going for a much more affordable $9 and ounce (good luck finding anything at less than $13 per ounce).

Fenway! :-)

I think red went to bed...

re: #145 BlueCanuck

I bought a (Plymouth) Neon the summer before MNT(S) entered kindergarten. Paid cash for it - $12,000, which included tax and tags (I really wanted a Honda but it was $14,000 and I only had 12,000.)

She's a sophomore in college and still driving that car.

re: #155 Fenway_Nation

Hmmm, wonder if that 68 silver quarter, and dime are worth anything.

aboo! :-)

Matrix! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Killian! :-)

re: #156 littleoldlady

I 'enhanced' it myself.

Remember Germaine Greer, celebrated 70s feminist she-devil?

Believe it or not, the old crone is still alive and she surfaced this week in Al Guardian.
Seems she didn't like the admittedly odd dress Michelle Obama was wearing the other night. Called it a "butcher's apron" and accused the media of being "too high-minded to refer to it." Greer and Al Guardian could never be accused of high-mindedness, excessive or otherwise:

"Greer was a powerful voice of feminism in the 1970s, and her books were international best sellers, but over the past decade she has become better known for her contrary and controversial remarks."

That is; a bitter, shriveled up old prune with Trotskyite pretensions.

"When nature lover Steve Irwin was killed, she famously remarked that the animals would be relieved. She also described Princess Di as 'slow'."

She fits right in with the rest of the bigoted sluts who make up Al Guardian's notoriously vicious contingent of alleged women.

Shell-shocked veterans of the sexual revolution, all; they need therapy and meds, lots of meds, rather than a public forum for the display of their sadistic aberrations.

No, I didn't vote for Michelle's husband, but she is going to be first lady of the United States; and the sniveling insults directed at her by a washed up hag in a depraved British propaganda sheet could not be more offensive or irrelevant.

What really bugs these failed dominatrices of the left: Michelle's successful marriage to a powerful and handsome husband.

re: #159 Fenway_Nation

Show aboo how you did it.

/he's scaring me... ;-)

re: #149 TheMatrix31

And the directions call for the each point to be labeled with the country. I don't like that either, makes it way too cluttered.

Well, you either need to reduce the number of data plots or make the graph physically much larger.

And the "red line" is supposed to be a "trend line" that goes through the data. From what I gathered from the lecture, it represents the "median" or something. I don't know, he just has us put it in there.

/I'm just guessing here, but I gather you've never taken a college level class in basic statistics, you should do so as soon as possible, it's one of the most useful classes you'll ever take

re: #153 Sharmuta

Fruitcup makes suffering the pirate p0rn worthwhile.

Porn in the morning again! sheesh the things y'all get up too when there isn't very many prying eyes!

re: #160 shiplord kirel

shiplord! :-)

Yeah, but she's right about the dress.

/comparing that witch to Jackie Kennedy is enough to give me heartburn...

re: #156 littleoldlady

Ha ha! Neon's are such chick cars.....

re: #163 akak

Porn in the morning again! sheesh the things y'all get up too when there isn't very many prying eyes!

I blame Walter.

Cool: Israel Bans International Media 5th Column from Gaza, Arrests Human Rights Activists Terrorist Sympathizers

'bout damned time. We've still about 60 days.

re: #141 littleoldlady

Bwahahaha! Do you know who you're talking to?!

Let me put it this way....do you know how hard it is to find a car with manual crank up/down windows?

;-)

We spent approximately $700 on 2 of those damn motors in the last year.

re: #168 akak

akak! :-)

See!?

re: #162 Killian Bundy

/I'm just guessing here, but I gather you've never taken a college level class in basic statistics, you should do so as soon as possible, it's one of the most useful classes you'll ever take

I took it in community college, but I don't think we ever went over trend lines. The only thing I remember from that class (got an A in there, but doesn't mean jack if I don't remember things) were bell curves and trying to fit word problems into formulas to solve them.

re: #170 TheMatrix31

I took it in community college, but I don't think we ever went over trend lines. The only thing I remember from that class (got an A in there, but doesn't mean jack if I don't remember things) were bell curves and trying to fit word problems into formulas to solve them.

/okay, then just increase the scale units of the graph, that'll pull the data points away from each other, or make the graph bigger, or both

I did not realize Tiger Wood's baby was getting a sibling. What a cutie she is.

re: #164 littleoldlady

shiplord! :-)

Yeah, but she's right about the dress.

/comparing that witch to Jackie Kennedy is enough to give me heartburn...

Speaking of Kennedys, our very own JammieWearingFool has a great feature on the dedication of the Robert Kennedy bridge in NYC: Is Naming a Bridge After a Kennedy a Good Idea?

re: #171 Killian Bundy

/okay, then just increase the scale units of the graph, that'll pull the data points away from each other, or make the graph bigger, or both

I realized I screwed up because I didn't drop western Euro countries that are "equal to 1" (whatever that means), so I closed everything and started over. Gonna generate the % change variables over too, to reflect the data set. I'll have a new graph in a bit. I think the reason the graph was mushed up and had all that black space was because I uploaded it to TinyPic. On my computer, it looks fine.

re: #174 TheMatrix31

I realized I screwed up because I didn't drop western Euro countries that are "equal to 1" (whatever that means), so I closed everything and started over. Gonna generate the % change variables over too, to reflect the data set. I'll have a new graph in a bit. I think the reason the graph was mushed up and had all that black space was because I uploaded it to TinyPic. On my computer, it looks fine.

/alright, as someone who's gone through many tablets of graph paper, I'm just trying to help

Spot price for gold is up about $10 an ounce, but platinum is dipping below $800 and ounce.

/probably has something to do with all the bad news in the auto manufacturing sector, altho' that by far isn't the only commercial application of platinum

Does that make a bit more sense?

Still haven't labeled either axis. I hate these jumbled up points with the labels, but that's what the man wants.

Russia’s Bases in S. Ossetia, Abkhazia Manned with Military

Russia’s military bases in South Ossetia and Abkhazia have been completely manned with military, RIA Novosti reported with reference to General Staff Chief Nikolay Makarov.

Nuttin for Georgia to worry about though, ask the Russian's.

And doesn't this beat all? Finns Want Radar to Watch Russians

Movin right along to the impotent schtuff: World Toilet Day events seek better sanitation for poor countries

Do remember to have a good flush today.

Happy Terlet Day all! later.

Geee aboo, after dropping that last link on us you decide to leave? I call foul!

/white smoke.

re: #177 TheMatrix31

Does that make a bit more sense?

Still haven't labeled either axis. I hate these jumbled up points with the labels, but that's what the man wants.

Not that I can really read it.

/try graphing it with with the horizontal units at 25 and the vertical units at 10, it'll get twice as large but you'll be able to read all the data plots, if it's too large you can back it down to say

Sarah Palin pick alienated Catholics, Jews, Muslims and Atheists.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually true.
Evangelical Christians just scare everybody off to the left.

re: #180 Killian Bundy

Not that I can really read it.

/try graphing it with with the horizontal units at 25 and the vertical units at 10, it'll get twice as large but you'll be able to read all the data plots, if it's too large you can back it down to say

You mean add tick marks?

re: #178 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

And doesn't this beat all? Finns Want Radar to Watch Russians

It kinda looks as though Europe thinks it won't be able to count on NATO much in the future...

/Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin

re: #180 Killian Bundy

if it's too large you can back it down to say

/30x15, think map zoom in and zoom out

re: #177 TheMatrix31

Maybe using a smaller font for the country names would help as well.

re: #182 TheMatrix31

You mean add tick marks?

I don't know what that is. What I'm saying is your graph axes dedicate ~1.25 inches (that's a lot for a graph) to a certain unit increment.

/increase the unit increment, it's all about scale

re: #185 BlueCanuck

Maybe using a smaller font for the country names would help as well.

Trying to figure out how to edit the size of the country names.

re: #186 Killian Bundy

/increase the unit increment, it's all about scale

/that should be decrease the unit increment

re: #182 TheMatrix31

You mean add tick marks?

Okay, now I know what that means.

/not sure how that would help

Graph #3

Does that look a bit better? I added "tick marks" between the labeled numbers to indicate 25% changes, decreasing the increments.

re: #190 TheMatrix31

What's the new term all the kids are using? I think it's "hot mess".

That's what comes to mind, Kiddo.

re: #191 Sharmuta

What's the new term all the kids are using? I think it's "hot mess".

That's what comes to mind, Kiddo.

Yeah, I know. Looks like throw-up in scatterplot form because of all the countries on the graph. But he wants all the countries to be labeled, so gotta go by those requirements.

re: #192 TheMatrix31

You're going to need to work on the spacing.

re: #193 Sharmuta

You're going to need to work on the spacing.

For some reason, I can't edit the text size on the graph. Seems like that might make it a bit easier to read. Otherwise, I'd have to drop some countries. I don't think they care much. It's moreso in the analysis of the slope and all of that. Causal, substantial, and statistical significance.

re: #194 TheMatrix31

Have you tried clicking on the names then right clicking? I seem to remember from my excel days that you could do that.

re: #190 TheMatrix31

Graph #3

Does that look a bit better? I added "tick marks" between the labeled numbers to indicate 25% changes, decreasing the increments.

No. On the vertical axis make 20 ten, on the horizontal make +/-50 +/-25 and replot the data, you'll get a much better grade. Proper scale.

/what's the difference between these two maps

Good morning, Lizards!

re: #197 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, goddess- how's the show?

re: #195 BlueCanuck

Have you tried clicking on the names then right clicking? I seem to remember from my excel days that you could do that.

I'm using this program called "Stata". Tried the right-clicking thing and nothing to edit text size.

It's no biggie. I've moved onto creating the regression table of data (slope, standard deviation, number of cases, probability, etc).

Good morning {goddess}, welcome to the pirate free thread.

/trust me you don't want to know.

re: #199 TheMatrix31

No properties menu? That's another spot you could check.

re: #197 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

Good Morning goddess & all present Lizards.

{Sharmuta}
(BlueCanuck}

I am SO excited for our show! The kids are incredible.

Good Morning LGF.

Everyone's a negro,
Negro, negro,
House negro,
Senate negro,
White house negro,
Let's go.

All they are saying,
Is give race a chance.

re: #196 Killian Bundy

No. On the vertical axis make 20 ten, on the horizontal make +/-50 +/-25 and replot the data, you'll get a much better grade. Proper scale.

/what's the difference between these two maps

Oh, I see what you're saying. They'll get angry if I made it 0-80 with 10 increments. They'll view it as too much clutter. Ironically, the plots make it cluttered. It's okay, KB. I've moved on. Thanks for your help :)

re: #203 goddessoftheclassroom

That sounds most excellent. We definitely need some good news in these parts. :)

re: #201 BlueCanuck

No properties menu? That's another spot you could check.

Nope, no properties menu. I've exhausted all the options, haha.

re: #203 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm excited for you- good luck!

Morning Lizards, any fruitcup left?

re: #181 Forever

Sarah Palin pick alienated Catholics, Jews, Muslims and Atheists.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually true.
Evangelical Christians just scare everybody off to the left.

By the time that the MSM got through with her, you would swear that she was handleing snakes.

re: #205 TheMatrix31

Oh, I see what you're saying. They'll get angry if I made it 0-80 with 10 increments. They'll view it as too much clutter. Ironically, the plots make it cluttered. It's okay, KB. I've moved on. Thanks for your help :)

/no, it'll make it much less cluttered, trust me, decreasing the axis increments is like zooming in, your data points will spread out and be legible, at least try it

re: #209 rightside

Morning Lizards, any fruitcup left?

{rightside}
Good morning!

re: #210 opnion

By the time that the MSM got through with her, you would swear that she was handleing snakes.

What REALLY infuriated me was that there isn't any indications that her PERSONAL faith crossed over into her decisions as governor. In other words, she didn't imposed her views on Alaska, even though that's how the MSM portrayed it.

re: #209 rightside

Morning rightside. Just go up and ding. Should be plenty left.

re: #213 goddessoftheclassroom

What REALLY infuriated me was that there isn't any indications that her PERSONAL faith crossed over into her decisions as governor. In other words, she didn't imposed her views on Alaska, even though that's how the MSM portrayed it.

They went to Defcon One to smear her. Palin scared them because she gave McCain a chance to win until the financial crisis.

re: #210 opnion

By the time that the MSM got through with her, you would swear that she was handleing snakes.

O'Reilly had a guy on last night who did a survey asking Obama supporters questions like, "Who is Harry Ried, Nancy Pelosi, etc". Many didn't know the most obvious answers. However, they all knew which candidate had a pregnant daughter and were informed on the clothing-gate story.

re: #212 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

re: #214 BlueCanuck

Morning BC

And thanks for the fruitcup LoL!

re: #216 tappin52

O'Reilly had a guy on last night who did a survey asking Obama supporters questions like, "Who is Harry Ried, Nancy Pelosi, etc". Many didn't know the most obvious answers. However, they all knew which candidate had a pregnant daughter and were informed on the clothing-gate story.

I caught that. The MSM did a good job with their brainwashing. Still these people were really uninformed. With some questions they looked like deer in headlights.

re: #216 tappin52

O'Reilly had a guy on last night who did a survey asking Obama supporters questions like, "Who is Harry Ried, Nancy Pelosi, etc". Many didn't know the most obvious answers. However, they all knew which candidate had a pregnant daughter and were informed on the clothing-gate story.

How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters

/he got 100% of the moron vote

re: #216 tappin52

That would probably be John Ziegler

re: #10 Ringo the Gringo

"Euripides?

I no rip a these. You rip a these?"

~ Chico Marx

Eumenides

~Aeschylus

re: #219 Killian Bundy

How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters

/he got 100% of the moron vote

I had lunch with an Obama voter this week. The guy had heard the names Ayers & Wright, but really knew nothing about any relationship with Obama.

re: #221 yesandno

Eumenides

~Aeschylus

I like the little bottles of shampoo and lotion myself...

re: #222 opnion

Talked with an old friend yesterday. He hasn't trusted the news for years. Asked him about Ayers, never heard of him. Asked him about Weather Underground and he identified them as a 60's 70's organization. Was surprised that one of their last actions was in 81. One good thing is that he doesn't trust the MSM.

re: #215 opnion

They went to Defcon One to smear her. Palin scared them because she gave McCain a chance to win until the financial crisis.

Yes, but it was more than fear. There was also some media love because she was so wildly popular with the general population and she sold so many newspapers and magazines.

re: #215 opnion

They went to Defcon One to smear her. Palin scared them because she gave McCain a chance to win until the financial crisis.

From The Corner this morning:

Whither Oogedy-Boogedyism? [Jonah Goldberg]

My email box runneth over with nice attaboys and more than a few interesting criticisms regarding my post about Kathleen Parker. Keying off some of the criticisms, here's one thing I want to know, as I sit here at the Whither Conservatism conference. What aspects of the Christian Right amount to oogedy-boogedyism? I take oogedy-boogedy to be a perjorative reference to absurd superstition and irrational nonsense. So where has the GOP embraced to its detriment oogedy-boogedyism? With the possible exception of some variants of creationism (which is hardly a major issue at the national level in the GOP, as much as some on the left and a few on the right try to make it one), I'm at a loss as to what Kathleen is referring to. Opposition to abortion? Opposition to gay marriage? Euthanasia? Support for prayer in school?

There are all sorts of legitimate positions on all sides of these issues and I don't necessarily agree with the conventional religious right view on all of them. And as a committed federalist, I'd like to see most if not all of them settled as locally as possible. But I think it's silly and offensive to describe the mainstream social conservative positions on these issues as "oogedy boogedy" stuff. Moreover, as a matter of political analysis it's beyond absurd to think the GOP can become a majority party by adopting a rhetorical tone toward religious conservatives usually found at the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos. I'm sure Bill Maher agrees with Kathleen. But normally, at least for people who call themselves conservatives, when Bill Maher agrees with you it's a sign that you took a wrong turn somewhere.

re: #224 BlueCanuck

Talked with an old friend yesterday. He hasn't trusted the news for years. Asked him about Ayers, never heard of him. Asked him about Weather Underground and he identified them as a 60's 70's organization. Was surprised that one of their last actions was in 81. One good thing is that he doesn't trust the MSM.

A guy that i work with said that Ayers must be respectable because he has a University job & Mayor Daley gave him a Citizen of the year award.
You know that must mean that Ward Churchill is a good guy and all of those Daley associates in the slam mean nothing.

re: #217 rightside

What? Oh. You're welcome. :-)

/Matrix's homework had my eyes glazing over...

re: #228 littleoldlady

{littleoldlady}!

Yay! Gonna be a great day for me. I have three people who are looking for Kitchen re-design. Haven't had three appointments in one day in two months. Gonna make some money today, or am going to just jump off of 6 inch curb.

re: #211 Killian Bundy

/no, it'll make it much less cluttered, trust me, decreasing the axis increments is like zooming in, your data points will spread out and be legible, at least try it

Damn. I closed the data editor that had all my graph data in the program used to create the graph. Let me see if I can reproduce it.

re: #228 littleoldlady

Or were you shopping for that $70,000 Chrysler vehicle?

/white smoke.

re: #227 opnion

A guy that i work with said that Ayers must be respectable because he has a University job & Mayor Daley gave him a Citizen of the year award.
You know that must mean that Ward Churchill is a good guy and all of those Daley associates in the slam mean nothing.

I bet you could scrape the stupid off of him.

re: #233 MandyManners

Probably, but what's the market value of stupid?

goddess! :-)

re: #232 BlueCanuck

Or were you shopping for that $70,000 Chrysler vehicle?

/white smoke.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

re: #234 BlueCanuck

Probably, but what's the market value of stupid?

Pretty high when you're the Democratic candidate for POTUS.

re: #233 MandyManners

I bet you could scrape the stupid off of him.

Pretty much. He also said that Obamas elitism is actually a positive after Bush.

"Fuck white people, Black people aint got to do shit because Obama got elected"!

/not exactly what you might think

re: #237 opnion

Pretty much. He also said that Obamas elitism is actually a positive after Bush.

Because Pres. Bush is a down-to-earth man?

re: #223 goddessoftheclassroom

I like the little bottles of shampoo and lotion myself...

Me too!

LOL

re: #227 opnion

A guy that i work with said that Ayers must be respectable because he has a University job & Mayor Daley gave him a Citizen of the year award.
You know that must mean that Ward Churchill is a good guy and all of those Daley associates in the slam mean nothing.

Let me guess. He's never seen the inside of a University.

re: #238 Killian Bundy

"Fuck white people, Black people aint got to do shit because Obama got elected"!

/not exactly what you might think

"You gonna' sit on your ass more?"

LOL!

re: #239 MandyManners

Because Pres. Bush is a down-to-earth man?

I would see it that way, but he meant that Bush is too common, kind of a cracker.

re: #230 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good luck!

re: #241 Spare O'Lake

Let me guess. He's never seen the inside of a University.

Nope, he's a college grad.

re: #242 MandyManners

"You gonna' sit on your ass more?"

LOL!

"That's some childish...ass...shit."

LOL!

re: #234 BlueCanuck

Probably, but what's the market value of stupid?

When the market finally bottoms out sometime in the near future, we will know.

Ignorance is probably more expensive.

re: #243 opnion

I would see it that way, but he meant that Bush is too common, kind of a cracker.

A rich cracker, at that.

re: #245 opnion

Nope, he's a college grad.

Wow. That makes him even stupider than I thought.

re: #248 MandyManners

A rich cracker, at that.

That makes you, Mr. Cracker.

re: #247 yesandno

When the market finally bottoms out sometime in the near future, we will know.

Ignorance is probably more expensive.

Of course it is. Just ask any engineer. :)

re: #246 TheMatrix31

"That's some childish...ass...shit."

LOL!

I think the man made some good points. I laughed loudly at his point about Jesse Jackson.

When you leave the electorate stupid they are more easily duped. Doing the homework is just too inconvenient. MSM style Cliff's notes are the homework of too many lazy students.

re: #249 Spare O'Lake

Wow. That makes him even stupider than I thought.

Well, he has blind spots. He actually said that he would have no problem having Ayers for a friend. It was the most heated conversation that I have had in a long time.

I've got to get ready for school--take care, Lizards!

Bye {goddess} enjoy your day.

For those who haven't noticed it, on the front page of drudge right now, top left is a pretty funny juxtaposition of a headline and a photo right below it (they're not related, or are they). please go look at it. Made me happy.

re: #250 opnion

That makes you, Mr. Cracker.

What's the origin of that word?

Bonesyour, y'all.

Up and mobile, check the market futures, too depressing, switch over to the FoxNews and they have some fellow on with the latest results of basic American history/civics test. About 70% of the public can't pass.

Elected officials, even worse.

Crap. I mean just crap.