A new thread opens, and I still don't know who Barry Manilow's Mandy was...

Don't look now, but the environmentalist wackos are screaming that video game consoles aren't "green" enough! Seriously.

Where the hell did Lincontf come from?

re: #1 Tarkus289

A new thread opens, and I still don't know who Barry Manilow's Mandy was...

One of life's great unsolved mysteries.

I bid you all a good night and a good adieu, as I am done on this blog.

re: #1 Tarkus289

A new thread opens, and I still don't know who Barry Manilow's Mandy was...

Actor Mandy Patinkin. But Mandy didn't know.
/

re: #3 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Where the hell did Lincontf come from?

Don't know, but he's a Dale Carnegie grad: Making friends and influencing people.

So Happy It's Thursday....

re: #6 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Actor Mandy Patinkin. But Mandy didn't know.
/

"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

From Realwest on previous thread....

Mandy was Manilow's way of referring to Quaaludes.
Or so he told that former law partner of mine.

re: #8 Macker

So Happy It's Thursday....

Not where I sit.

Is Cognito here?

:')

a yellow bird
with a yellow bill
was sitting on
my window sill

i lured him in
with a piece of bread
and then i smashed his.....

sorry: wrong group.

/this isn't Harmony Church flashbacks?

hi all--what the hell did i miss? did all hell break loose? ( i always miss the good stuff)

re: #8 Macker

So Happy It's Thursday....

SSED

Same Shit Every Day

re: #13 redc1c4

That sounds more like a Trinity United Church of Christ flashback!

re: #9 victor_yugo

"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

Don't kill me!

re: #13 redc1c4

Gotta admit - every time someone starts with birds - I think of that poem. :(

re: #12 DesertSage

Enjoy rotten bread, do you?

re: #12 DesertSage

Is Cognito here?

:')

targeting systems up, scan all coordinates........

fire on lock.

re: #10 Tarkus289

From Realwest on previous thread....

Mandy was Manilow's way of referring to Quaaludes.
Or so he told that former law partner of mine.

Reading the lyrics from the song that seems unlikely.

re: #16 Wyatt Earp

That sounds more like a Trinity United Church of Christ flashback!

B-9-2 Harmony Church
Ft Benning GA
Jan-Apr 83.

re: #21 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Good point, but you know how "artists" are.

re: #3 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Where the hell did Lincontf come from?

/God help it if it shows up on this thread, I will berate it to the extreme

re: #19 Sharmuta

Enjoy rotten bread, do you?

Some like mold ... I, as you, can do without.

re: #21 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Reading the lyrics from the song that seems unlikely.

"Oh Mindy, you came and you gave without flaking,
But I sent you Ben-gay,
Oh Andy, you kissed me and stopped me from something . ." - Homer Simpson

re: #21 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Reading the lyrics from the song that seems unlikely.

Of course, the idea of the girly-man being enamored with a woman seems unlikely also.

re: #25 Bobibutu

Some like mold ... I, as you, can do without.

So- you don't like urinated carpet smell either, huh?

I missed the whole last thread, so I don't know what the discussion of Barry Manilow and "Mandy" was about.

But I do know one thing. Barry Manilow didn't write "Mandy."

re: #27 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Good Point, but you know how "artists" are....

it fit again.

re: #8 Macker

Used to be posted on the board at the eating mess on one base I was one during the summer back in 91. Of course that was steak night, fresh off the grill.

/they fed us good up here

re: #21 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Kissed him and stopped him from shaking!
I can believe that...

re: #13 redc1c4

Ah fond memories of that song.

/I pushed it in. . . . . . .
//white smoke

re: #3 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Where the hell did Lincontf come from?

Crazy guess here, but his mother's womb? ;-)

re: #13 redc1c4

Timely.

Okay, I just went and found a couple examples of posts where the term Creationist (or an equivalent), if replaced with an anti-Semitic or racial term, would be universally considered offensive. Just go back a few Headings or scroll up a couple hundred posts and you'll see what I'm talking about.

/it thinks it's going to survive here

re: #29 Last Mohican

i missed the last tread too- im so confused- it barry write copacobana at least?

re: #36 Killian Bundy

/it thinks it's going to survive here

It's wrong.

re: #28 Sharmuta

So- you don't like urinated carpet smell either, huh?

Right - straight out open communication - if I want to play games I'll go to the park.

Tho it may not be evident to some - life is to short for BS games. For me anyway.

re: #26 Wyatt Earp

"Oh Mindy, you came and you gave without flaking,
But I sent you Ben-gay,
Oh Andy, you kissed me and stopped me from something . ." - Homer Simpson

Is that for real?

re: #36 Killian Bundy

/it thinks it's going to survive here

Fools usually think they are the smartest one in the room.

re: #40 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Is that for real?

Homer sung it in the shower about a girl (Mindy) he worked with at the nuclear plant. Funniest thing ever!

re: #41 FurryOldGuyJeans

Fools usually think they are the smartest one in the room.

Guess I'm a fool then.

/

re: #37 mikeymom

i missed the last tread too- im so confused- it barry write copacobana at least?

I think so. But not "Mandy." I believe this was the original version.

re: #34 NoGardtheGreat

Crazy guess here, but his mother's womb? ;-)

No way!
/

re: #45 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No way!
/

Yes way

re: #40 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Is that for real?

Here ya go. "Oh Mindy," by Homer Simpson.

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yes way

Or would that be whey?

re: #44 Last Mohican

wow- thanks i think

re: #45 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No way!
/

I thought all lizards were hatched?

/well some would be good candidates for D.I.'s

re: #30 Tarkus289

Good Point, but you know how "artists" are....

it fit again.

I've heard most "creative" people- actors, authors, artists, etc. are libs, whereas those of us who actually can see and feel reality are conservatives.
Makes sense to me.

re: #28 Sharmuta

Hey Shar - what ever happened to your cartoon series? Ya know - you 'n Mandy and ...

Thanksgiving is next week, so here's some Thanksgiving classics to help get you in the spirit of things.

First, we'll start with some short Miracle on 34th Street clips. Staying with the short clips, let's not forget Schoolhouse Rock's No More Kings, to help remind us why we're celebrating.

Since Thanksgiving is partially about getting together with friends, how about the classic Thanksgiving 2000 episode of Friends? It's the one where Chandler doesn't like dogs, and Ross is being driven crazy trying to name all 50 US states!

Finally, I'll wrap things up with two unforgettable Thanksgiving classics. First, here's the complete A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3).

The other classic can be summed up by its final words: "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

re: #39 Bobibutu

For a group so appalled by the behavior of the msm, I'm stunned so many here buy into the BS spewed when one of them comments here.

No wonder this country was fooled this last election- those who know better still buy the BS.

re: #52 Bobibutu

Huh? Did you mean Ginn's cartoons?

In case you haven't seen my Victory in Iraq Day essay since a few days ago (or since I first posted it), I humbly suggest giving it a new gander. It's now about twice as long, with tons more graphics, several new sections, about 300 blogs on the blogroll, and many new convincing arguments. I respond to critics as well. I even list a couple "real world" VI Day events!

Victory in Iraq Day.

re: #52 Bobibutu

Hey Shar - what ever happened to your cartoon series? Ya know - you 'n Mandy and ...

I thought that was The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.

re: #56 zombie

In case you haven't seen my Victory in Iraq Day essay since a few days ago (or since I first posted it), I humbly suggest giving it a new gander. It's now about twice as long, with tons more graphics, several new sections, about 300 blogs on the blogroll, and many new convincing arguments. I respond to critics as well. I even list a couple "real world" VI Day events!

Victory in Iraq Day.

/curious date, I know it's too late now, but why?

re: #54 Sharmuta

For a group so appalled by the behavior of the msm, I'm stunned so many here buy into the BS spewed when one of them comments here.

No wonder this country was fooled this last election- those who know better still buy the BS.

Unlike DKOS, DU or Huffpo people don't get banned here for having a different point if view.

re: #49 mikeymom

Uh-oh... it turns out that Barry Manilow was only one of three authors of "Copacabana." It's hard for me to sign off and go to sleep without getting these things resolved.

That Manilow guy really isn't all he's cracked up to be, huh?. And he's not cracked up to be that much, either.

re: #58 Killian Bundy

/curious date, I know it's too late now, but why?

In order to get props and kudos in before the holiday rush and then the rush up to Doomsday (2009-01-20).

re: #55 Sharmuta

Huh? Did you mean Ginn's cartoons?

May be - I just remember 3 gals that are seared into my brain. Seared I tells ya.

re: #59 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Unlike DKOS, DU or Huffpo people don't get banned here for having a different point if view.

Only for repeated attempts at making asses of themselves.

re: #44 Last Mohican

I didn't know that.

re: #54 Sharmuta

Everyone has BS they buy in to -- MSM or not.

re: #62 Bobibutu

May be - I just remember 3 gals that are seared into my brain. Seared I tells ya.

Cambodia, Christmas, '68, right?

re: #59 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Unlike DKOS, DU or Huffpo people don't get banned here for having a different point if view.

I'm well aware of that, thank you. What does that have to do with people buying msm bullshit when spewed on LGF, but not when it comes off their tv or newspaper?

re: #60 Last Mohican

aww geez-didnt mean to make up stay up past bed time--but--thx for the info! guilty secret-- i LIKE some of his songs!

re: #54 Sharmuta

For a group so appalled by the behavior of the msm, I'm stunned so many here buy into the BS spewed when one of them comments here.

No wonder this country was fooled this last election- those who know better still buy the BS.

Well said. Occasionally I have to tie one hand behind my back lest I be banned.

Serious question here, since this is about the best collection of intelligent people on the net that I can find.

Note: I am not advocating this, just wondering.

When do we as Americans (ok those of us that are Americans), use the 2nd Amendment? In other words what would be the spark?

We have already passed individual rights being trampled.
We have already passed religious rights being trampled.
We have already passed private business rights being trampled.

As we head into an oppressive Obama administration, I'm sure more rights will get trampled.

So what would be the spark that would set thousands off to seek their guns and shout, "enough".

re: #70 NoGardtheGreat

are you serious?

re: #50 BlueCanuck

I thought all lizards were hatched?

/well some would be good candidates for D.I.'s

i wasn't born: i was inflicted.

And with that, I'm outta here. It's been an, uhhhhh, informative evening.

re: #67 Sharmuta

He's nuttin' but scrollover to me.

re: #61 victor_yugo

In order to get props and kudos in before the holiday rush and then the rush up to Doomsday (2009-01-20).

Well, it' s just the Kennedy assassination anniversary.

/and besides, everyone knows that doomsday is December 21st, 2012

re: #66 FurryOldGuyJeans

Cambodia, Christmas, '68, right?

Shi Fok - how'd ya know? That was a sekret.

re: #70 NoGardtheGreat

Well I can speak only for myself and my neighbors in Texas, but trying to take our guns would probably do the trick.

Otherwise all I can say is the last Civil War killed 3% of the entire U.S. off.

That's about 10.5 million people so lets not talk lightly about this.

re: #75 Killian Bundy

/and besides, everyone knows that doomsday is December 21st, 2012

Why couldn't Doomsday be BEFORE the next US Presidential election?

New York Times cuts dividend, 'reevaluates' assets

Looks like the Gray Lady is breathing her last gasps.

re: #77 unclassifiable

No need to panic over this just yet. Stuff like that is scare talk. All you can do right now is watch and wait.

re: #58 Killian Bundy

/curious date, I know it's too late now, but why?

Read the essay. I address that issue (near the end).

People of a certain generation have more of an emotional connection to Nov. 22 as a sort of anti-holiday. Perhaps it is time to give it a positive cast, just for one year?

Anyway, Victory in Iraq Day is just a one-time only event. Like I said, read the explanation. Next year, we can all go back to moping again.

re: #67 Sharmuta

I'm well aware of that, thank you. What does that have to do with people buying msm bullshit when spewed on LGF, but not when it comes off their tv or newspaper?

When you sound so damn condescending and "I'm smarter than everyone else". What makes you think that it is "bought" here but not when it is from their tv or newspaper?

re: #70 NoGardtheGreat

re: #77 unclassifiable

for god's sake- get a grip--obama is NOT the end of AMERICA--

re: #79 Maximu§

New York Times cuts dividend, 'reevaluates' assets

Looks like the Gray Lady is breathing her last gasps.

That is a damned shame.
/

So, did we ever discover who has the most karma points? buzzsawmonkey has 29,588, so I must be way down the list at only 18,877. Surely there are others way up there? I didn't read the karma thread, so I missed the conclusion.

re: #70 NoGardtheGreat

Serious question here, since this is about the best collection of intelligent people on the net that I can find.

Note: I am not advocating this, just wondering.

When do we as Americans (ok those of us that are Americans), use the 2nd Amendment? In other words what would be the spark?

We have already passed individual rights being trampled.
We have already passed religious rights being trampled.
We have already passed private business rights being trampled.

As we head into an oppressive Obama administration, I'm sure more rights will get trampled.

So what would be the spark that would set thousands off to seek their guns and shout, "enough".

it's a scientific experiment.....

keep pushing.

re: #70 NoGardtheGreat

Serious question here, since this is about the best collection of intelligent people on the net that I can find.

Note: I am not advocating this, just wondering.

When do we as Americans (ok those of us that are Americans), use the 2nd Amendment? In other words what would be the spark?

We have already passed individual rights being trampled.
We have already passed religious rights being trampled.
We have already passed private business rights being trampled.

As we head into an oppressive Obama administration, I'm sure more rights will get trampled.

So what would be the spark that would set thousands off to seek their guns and shout, "enough".

Dude - are you trying to write an essay or something?

Very good question. LEOs and Spooks would love to know. Perhaps a study of the interactions in Iraq would give us some clues.

Computer models have most certainly been run .... but I can't tell ya. Ya know.

:-)

Oops, we both went up a couple points in the time it took me to post that comment!

re: #71 mikeymom

are you serious?

I'm just wondering what the trigger event would be. Would it be something like another Waco, or something huge like Obama getting rid of the right to own arms?

What would cause, a vast number of Americans to say, "that's it".
Maybe the better question is; is there anything, that would cause us to do that?

re: #70 NoGardtheGreat

If that time ever does come the catalyst will be recognizable only in retrospective. Let's not borrow trouble by trying to second-guess the future.

re: #79 Maximu§

New York Times cuts dividend, 'reevaluates' assets

Looks like the Gray Lady is breathing her last gasps.

It's too much to hope for, I guess, but it truly would be a significant step forward for civilization if that sorry propaganda rag were to bite the dust.

I doubt it will happen anytime soon. There are two million New York Jews (including most of my relatives) who view paying for a subscription to the NYT's anti-Israel bullshit to be an integral part of their existence.

re: #82 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

When you sound so damn condescending and "I'm smarter than everyone else". What makes you think that it is "bought" here but not when it is from their tv or newspaper?

Read the threads. Hell I'm not here that often and am aware of it.

re: #83 mikeymom

re: #77 unclassifiable

for god's sake- get a grip--obama is NOT the end of AMERICA--

I'm just using Obama cause he's convenient. I'd ask the same thing if McCain had won.

re: #80 BlueCanuck

No need to panic over this just yet. Stuff like that is scare talk. All you can do right now is watch and wait.

you left out "and clear fire lanes, set obstacles, prepare additional positions, provide overhead cover..... etc.......

re: #85 zombie

So, did we ever discover who has the most karma points? buzzsawmonkey has 29,588, so I must be way down the list at only 18,877. Surely there are others way up there? I didn't read the karma thread, so I missed the conclusion.

Charles has near double karma per comment.

/brown nosers

re: #92 Bobibutu

Read the threads. Hell I'm not here that often and am aware of it.

People with POV's might actually disagree. That's all I meant.

re: #85 zombie

So, did we ever discover who has the most karma points

Why this guy, of course!

re: #82 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

What makes you think that it is "bought" here but not when it is from their tv or newspaper?

The level of support I see it given. The number of excuses made for his rug pissing.

re: #83 mikeymom

I thought that is what I was trying to imply. Reread what I said again. I answered a hypothetical with a hypothetical. I did not say that Obama was going to take our guns. There is a pretty staunch opposition in Congress and the Courts at the present time that would even make such an attempt prohibitive. Obama himself probably recognizes that it would be damn near impossible.

And my thought at the end was intended to quell the stirring up of any fevor for such a thing.

re: #94 redc1c4

Well all that is just plain common sense.

re: #89 NoGardtheGreat

i think you need to chill- i'll buy you a drink or two- the only thing i can think of that would cause me to go over the edge would be osama or some jihadi to show up on my doorstep and want me to kiss his camel

re: #85 zombie

I think Charles is in the lead.

The End Of The World commences with an earth quake, birds and snakes. I heard about it.

re: #1 Tarkus289
Manilow's "Mandy" was his name for a Quaalude.

re: #82 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

When you sound so damn condescending and "I'm smarter than everyone else". What makes you think that it is "bought" here but not when it is from their tv or newspaper?

All of this right now is in regards to one specific poster, not the media in general.

re: #77 unclassifiable

Well I can speak only for myself and my neighbors in Texas, but trying to take our guns would probably do the trick.

Otherwise all I can say is the last Civil War killed 3% of the entire U.S. off.

That's about 10.5 million people so lets not talk lightly about this.

Not lightly, just a question I posed to the wife tonight, and then she gave me "that look", like I need to get out more!

re: #95 Killian Bundy

Charles has near double karma per comment.

/brown nosers

Ya never know - what the brown noser quotient is when about to get the stick.

/

re: #106 NoGardtheGreat

Not lightly, just a question I posed to the wife tonight, and then she gave me "that look", like I need to get out more!

That is a hint to take her out, you know. ;)

re: #102 Sharmuta

I think Charles is in the lead.

/you have to be responsible for a few thousand

re: #101 mikeymom

i think you need to chill- i'll buy you a drink or two- the only thing i can think of that would cause me to go over the edge would be osama or some jihadi to show up on my doorstep and want me to kiss his camel

That's valid! LOL

re: #106 NoGardtheGreat

Not lightly, just a question I posed to the wife tonight, and then she gave me "that look", like I need to get out more!

Well maybe you do? Take up healthy activities like target shooting, or even skeet.

/white smoke.

re: #89 NoGardtheGreat

I'm just wondering what the trigger event would be. Would it be something like another Waco, or something huge like Obama getting rid of the right to own arms?

I really don't think it's gonna happen.

There are way too many 2nd Amendment scare tactics and conspriacy theories floating around.

The Supreme Court just gave the strongest re-affirmation of the 2nd Amendment EVER. They ruled it DOES refer to individuals, not just militias.

That ruling is going to stand for years and years. Obama can't just outlaw guns, any more than Bush could not overturn Roe v. Wade, despite the fact that he was opposed to it.

The best/worst Obama could do is wait until some justices retire, appoint a couple of anti-gun leftists, then wait some more years for a case to reach the Court system, and then take about 5 years deciding it. It will be another ten years at least before any threat to the 2nd Amendment could appear. And then, the new ruiling will be challenged by a new cases, and new justices will be appointed, etc.

Your guns are safe, for quite some time -- if not forever.

re: #85 zombie
Hey zombie - well I only have a measley 7,995, in spite of all the wit and wisdom I bring here damned near every day! LOL!
Actually I think Sharmuta has the most - more Karma points or whatever, than comments!
BTW, ya got another one just now from moi!

re: #96 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

People with POV's might actually disagree. That's all I meant.

Like the contrarians here- Kilgore, JusyMyView, Cognito, etc, I think they're wrong most of the time, but let them fire away with their opinions. My ONLY point was that if we all agreed on everything, why the hell bother coming here every day?

re: #104 realwest

Manilow's "Mandy" was his name for a Quaalude.

I never tried one of those. Worth the experience? Did acid and mushrooms on Bali back in the 70s a couple of times - never again - tho it was interesting.

re: #111 BlueCanuck

are drinking and playing bingo healthy activities? and living at lgf?

re: #108 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is a hint to take her out, you know. ;)

You may be right!

re: #95 Killian Bundy

Charles has near double karma per comment.

/brown nosers

re: #97 Last Mohican

Why this guy, of course!

re: #102 Sharmuta

I think Charles is in the lead.

I mean ASIDE FROM Charles.

Who are the top five, excepting our great leader?

re: #91 Last Mohican

It's too much to hope for, I guess, but it truly would be a significant step forward for civilization if that sorry propaganda rag were to bite the dust.

I doubt it will happen anytime soon. There are two million New York Jews (including most of my relatives) who view paying for a subscription to the NYT's anti-Israel bullshit to be an integral part of their existence.

The Obama love affair finally pushed them over the edge. I hope the LA Times follows shortly.

re: #79 Maximu§

The New York Times stock paid a dividend?

That's a trait I'd attribute to shares of a company that....y'know....actually did something productive (i.e. Shipping, piplines, railways).

re: #98 Sharmuta

The level of support I see it given. The number of excuses made for his rug pissing.

Sharmuta, do as you like, of course, but I'll note a couple of things.

First: Very few, if any, of my opinions fall in line with the media at large. Not my views on war. On race. On Iran. On Israel. On economics. On radical Islam. On politics. On... well, I'm sure you see my point. So there's nothing 'bought' here, because there's nothing 'sold.'

Second: You're devoting an awful lot of energy and commentary to what are, frankly, a lot of tossed-off comments on my part. It's only conversation.

re: #112 zombie

I really don't think it's gonna happen.

There are way too many 2nd Amendment scare tactics and conspriacy theories floating around.

The Supreme Court just gave the strongest re-affirmation of the 2nd Amendment EVER. They ruled it DOES refer to individuals, not just militias.

That ruling is going to stand for years and years. Obama can't just outlaw guns, any more than Bush could not overturn Roe v. Wade, despite the fact that he was opposed to it.

The best/worst Obama could do is wait until some justices retire, appoint a couple of anti-gun leftists, then wait some more years for a case to reach the Court system, and then take about 5 years deciding it. It will be another ten years at least before any threat to the 2nd Amendment could appear. And then, the new ruiling will be challenged by a new cases, and new justices will be appointed, etc.

Your guns are safe, for quite some time -- if not forever.

They'll just tax guns and ammunition out of existence.

/they'll just become prohibitively expensive

re: #113 realwest

Hey zombie - well I only have a measley 7,995, in spite of all the wit and wisdom I bring here damned near every day! LOL!
Actually I think Sharmuta has the most - more Karma points or whatever, than comments!
BTW, ya got another one just now from moi!

Wow, Sharmuta is just a few hundred behind Charles! Surely you are in the lead, then.

re: #116 mikeymom

are drinking and playing bingo healthy activities? and living at lgf?

Well as long as you don't smoke that much, and win occasionally at Bingo. I see no problems with that. ;)

re: #112 zombie

Your guns are safe, for quite some time -- if not forever.

I don't even own any LOL

It truly was just a question, not a fear or what not. But it's good to know if I ever want to get a gun, I'm covered for a while.

re: #121 Cognito

It's only conversation.

There is where you miss the entire point.

Are we talking about Cognito again?

And what are these karma points you all speak of?

I click on my name and I get this:

This lizardoid's name does not seem to exist in the LGF repository.

re: #115 Bobibutu

i;m reading a book now about a fathers experience with his son who was/is a meth addict--what a horrible drug! tottally alters the brain-worse than pot,heroin, etc. im an old fart-only tried pot and hash a few times-was too scared to do anything stonger--anyone want to buy me another martini?

re: #128 Maximu§

I click on my name and I get this:

This lizardoid's name does not seem to exist in the LGF repository.

Yep....you don't exist.

Must be karma.
:')

re: #70 NoGardtheGreat
Well, I am an American but live on the East Coast and wished you'd raised this earlier, but as to

We have already passed individual rights being trampled.
We have already passed religious rights being trampled.
We have already passed private business rights being trampled.

Dude, George Bush is STILL the President and I honestly don't feel that my individual rights have been trampled on and I think it would be more accurate to say that it's starting to look - with the Big 3, at least, as if we've stopped handing out corporate charity and I happen to think that's a good thing.

re: #78 gmsc

Why couldn't Doomsday be BEFORE the next US Presidential election?

all the doomsday stuff is twisted its not the end of the world its the dawning of a new age as in stone age iron age etc... if you read the prophecies of the mayan or hopi etc... thats what they say even revalations its not the end of the world its the dawning of a new age/world

re: #118 zombie

I wonder if Charles will keep "blog defender" statistics for reported comments deleted?

re: #128 Maximu§

I see you just fine, now put on the robe.

/I think I saw way too much.

I understand Karma, studied it once. This is not the karma I knew.

re: #89 NoGardtheGreat

I'm just wondering what the trigger event would be. Would it be something like another Waco, or something huge like Obama getting rid of the right to own arms?

What would cause, a vast number of Americans to say, "that's it".
Maybe the better question is; is there anything, that would cause us to do that?

Since I write science fiction, I'm used to thinking about scenarios that I actually consider unlikely but not impossible. That is the case here. Having said that, the most most plausible trigger is not action by the government, but inaction by the government. This could happen in the face of massive abuses by the kind of shadow government that could grow up around federally mandated "community activists" and similar groups who would have many of the powers of government but not the accountability.

I am thinking about things like the local advisory groups postulated as a condition for broadcasters to retain their licenses. These would function as censorship boards, but would not be directly accountable through constitutional processes. This has already happened in the banking industry, under the guise of inclusiveness, and it could be extended to all businesses and other operations that are in any way connected to the federal government.

Collectively, these kinds of mandate empowered activists could eventually coalesce into a major national force, commanding vast power over politicians, the media, business, and, last but not least, the mob. This is the critical mass, but the trigger will be an attempt by this shadow government to force clearly illegal measures on the rest of the population in defiance of the law and of whatever remains of the constitutional government.

re: #126 Bobibutu

I think he also just made the case for exactly why he's scroll worthy.

re: #121 Cognito

Keep posting Cog. I disagree with you most of the time, but I'll fight until YOUR death your right to say them.
///

re: #128 Maximu§

I click on my name and I get this:

This lizardoid's name does not seem to exist in the LGF repository.

That's an old issue. It's because your LGF name uniquely contains a non-standard character that the URL can't handle.

re: #85 zombie

So, did we ever discover who has the most karma points? buzzsawmonkey has 29,588, so I must be way down the list at only 18,877. Surely there are others way up there? I didn't read the karma thread, so I missed the conclusion.

can yah give me a few good carmel dings i feel so left out

/borderline on breaking iron fist rule

re: #130 DesertSage

Yep....you don't exist.

Must be karma.
:')

greeeaaatttt...I guess staying under the radar is a good thing.

re: #132 JimmyTheClaw

all the doomsday stuff is twisted its not the end of the world its the dawning of a new age as in stone age iron age etc... if you read the prophecies of the mayan or hopi etc... thats what they say even revalations its not the end of the world its the dawning of a new age/world

Appropriate to begin a new world on Winter Solstice!

re: #129 mikeymom

i;m reading a book now about a fathers experience with his son who was/is a meth addict--what a horrible drug! tottally alters the brain-worse than pot,heroin, etc. im an old fart-only tried pot and hash a few times-was too scared to do anything stonger--anyone want to buy me another martini?

I will do ALMOST anything once. And I research the shit out of it before I do. Heroin etc. is off my list.

Another Martini awaits you right here - with a twist and two olives. - Enjoy.

re: #141 Maximu§

Try refreshing the page.

re: #136 shiplord kirel

you have a very scary mind set-lol

re: #115 Bobibutu
OH YES! Uh, I mean well, ya know, they were ok if you liked having your whole body feel warm and "touchy" like after a good massage and they coulda been sold as the pre-Viagra Viagra! - oh and women liked 'em as much as did men! - But other than that they weren't anything special.
Never did shrooms or acid cause of all the talk about unexpected flashback hallucinations and I already had enough flashbacks, thank you kindly!

re: #139 zombie

That's an old issue. It's because your LGF name uniquely contains a non-standard character that the URL can't handle.

The fancy "s" at the end of my name is the trouble maker....when I get home, that "s" will get a kick'n!

re: #104 realwest

Manilow's "Mandy" was his name for a Quaalude.

I thought we covered this... The lyrics for the song were written by a guy named Scott English, who recorded it in 1971, several years before Manilow did (another guy, Richard Kerr, wrote the music). The Scott English version was called "Brandy." Manilow did much better with his version, which was released in 1974. But by the time he released it, Looking Glass had already had a blockbuster number one hit with "Brandi, You're A Fine Girl." To avoid confusion, Manilow changed the name of the woman in the song to "Mandy."

Legend has it that Scott English wrote the song about his dog. But, according to English, that's just a lie that he invented to get rid of a reporter who called him early one morning to ask him what the song was about. Others have speculated that the song actually refers to alcoholic beverages, in light of the lyric "stopped me from shaking." Me personally, I think it's just a really lame lyric, with no special significance.

re: #123 zombie
NO zom, I've only got 7,995 or so. Apparently my wit and wisdom is lost on a lot of folks! LOL!

re: #13 redc1c4

Hey neighbor,

Ever been to Nolan's?

re: #137 Sharmuta

I think he also just made the case for exactly why he's scroll worthy.

Yeah - I keep lamenting inside about feeding a troll - [Deleted]

re: #149 realwest

NO zom, I've only got 7,995 or so. Apparently my wit and wisdom is lost on a lot of folks! LOL!

You have wit and wisdom? ;)

re: #148 Last Mohican
I don't think Barry Manilow was every accused of being very "deep". Which is OK. I guess.

re: #149 realwest

NO zom, I've only got 7,995 or so. Apparently my wit and wisdom is lost on a lot of folks! LOL!

I'll give you some good karma, RW!

:)

It seems the United States' FAA has a unique device for testing windshield strength on airplanes. It is a gun that fires a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at about the same speed the plane flies. The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the impact, it could survive a real collision with a bird during flight. The British wanted to test the device on a new highspeed locomotive they are developing, so they borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded a chicken, and fired. The bird not only shattered the windshield, but also went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab. The stunned Brits asked the FAA to re-check the procedure to see if they had missed something. The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and came back with just one recommendation. "Thaw the bird out first."

re: #123 zombie

No one could be more surprised at that than me.

re: #146 realwest

Shucks - sounds like a couple of tokes and into a Thai massage parlor... got it ... thanks.

re: #152 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have wit and wisdom? ;)

and i hear from other female lizards, a VERY cute butt!

re: #155 Dustyvet

That is hilarious!

Damn forgot an "O" did I ?

Rough shift tonight and eating oranges (don't ask)

re: #103 pat

The End Of The World commences with an earth quake, birds and snakes. I heard about it.

i thought the sign was president elect rosie o'donnel

re: #134 BlueCanuck

I see you just fine, now put on the robe.

/I think I saw way too much.

You sick Canadians!

~pulls robe tight~

My attorney (a 4 year old Beagle) will contact you in the morning.

/

re: #136 shiplord kirel

I disagree.

Quite simply factionalism is the historical trigger for a civil war. When a country splits along lines that are so diametrically opposed that no amount of negotiations or compromise will reconcile them AND both sides make provocations and and antagonisms towards each other then war is sure to follow.

re: #158 mikeymom

and i hear from other female lizards, a VERY cute butt!

And just why do you think I would be interested in such a thing, eh? ;)

re: #127 DesertSage
Hey Sage - good to see you! Those Karma point were explained in a thread by Charles today, basically a netting of your +'s and -'s - click your avatar and you'll see yours in green you had 6,272 = well I guess now 6272 as I popped you up one!

re: #158 mikeymom

and i hear from other female lizards, a VERY cute butt!

lol

re: #134 BlueCanuck

I see you just fine, now put on the robe.

/I think I saw way too much.

errrr...what was my "karma" score?

re: #161 JimmyTheClaw

i heard she is getting a prime time show --AACCCKKK!

Other important information that I uncovered while researching the above comment: Barry Manilow is only 75% Jewish, contrary to my prior belief that he was at least 200% Jewish.

First they came for the racists
but I was not a racist, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the rednecks,
but I was not a redneck, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the Bible-thumpers,
but I was not a Bible-thumper, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the Wal-Mart shoppers,
but I was not a Wal-Mart shopper, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the gun-owners,
and that's when I shot them.

re: #156 Sharmuta

No one could be more surprised at that than me.

Maybe so - but you are special. A rare bird.

re: #167 Maximu§

errrr...what was my "karma" score?

Maximu§
Karma: 1,856

re: #155 Dustyvet

Ever see the Mythbusters episode where they revisited the chicken cannon experiment? Previous one they said was doubtful. The retake they corrected to plausible. Actually had a college teacher that worked on testing of the DC 9 wing. Fired everything at it, including frozen chickens. Their conclusion was that the fuselage would fail before the wing did.

re: #167 Maximu§

about 8? (it was a brief glance)

re: #172 FurryOldGuyJeans

Maximu§
Karma: 1,856

TY, is that a good score?

re: #162 Maximu§

You sick Canadians!

~pulls robe tight~

My attorney (a 4 year old Beagle) will contact you in the morning.

/

NOOOOOO! Not the beagle!

/1857 now.

re: #171 Bobibutu

Thanks, {Bobi}.

C.I.A. Withheld Data in Peru Plane Crash Inquiry

An internal investigation by the Central Intelligence Agency has found that the agency withheld crucial information from federal investigators who spent years trying to determine whether C.I.A. officers committed crimes related to the accidental downing of a missionary plane in Peru in 2001.

The August 2008 report by John L. Helgerson, the C.I.A.’s inspector general, could lead the Justice Department to reopen its investigation into the shooting, examining in particular whether senior C.I.A. officers obstructed justice or lied to Congress by burying details about the episode and the C.I.A.’s broaer counternarcotics program.

/I'm sorry, isn't the CIAs primary objective to violate laws worldwide?

re: #175 Maximu§

TY, is that a good score?

Why ask me? I am supremely indifferent to all this karma stuff. ;)

re: #169 Last Mohican

Other important information that I uncovered while researching the above comment: Barry Manilow is only 75% Jewish, contrary to my prior belief that he was at least 200% Jewish.

I always liked that "Mandy" song tho.

re: #155 Dustyvet

Right ... pee trail on the floor.

Old but good one.

karma is overrated... & only attained when it isn't sought.

zenkat

re: #148 Last Mohican
Well I don't remember us "covering this" and I'm just telling ya what my former law partner who represented Manilow told me Manilow told him when he asked "who is this Mandy chick you sing about" and Manilow said oh, man, that's just my nick name for 'ludes.
And btw, also according to my former law partner, Barry Manilow PARTIED like no tomorrow - women, drugs, several women all at the same time and all that kinda stuff.
I always thought Barry wasn't a straight guy (not that there's anything wrong with that!) but was quickly disabused by my partner who also partied at Barry's place!

re: #170 shiplord kirel

Now that we can agree on.

Yellow bird with a yellow bill
Perched upon my window sill
Lured it in with a piece of bread
...

re: #163 unclassifiable

I disagree.

Quite simply factionalism is the historical trigger for a civil war. When a country splits along lines that are so diametrically opposed that no amount of negotiations or compromise will reconcile them AND both sides make provocations and and antagonisms towards each other then war is sure to follow.

That may be, but I don't see how this is inconsistent with anything I said. You are simply reiterating some general historical principles, the questioner asked for specifics.

re: #178 Killian Bundy

C.I.A. Withheld Data in Peru Plane Crash Inquiry

/I'm sorry, isn't the CIAs primary objective to violate laws worldwide?

It certainly is if the New York Times is doing the reporting.

re: #171 Bobibutu

Maybe so - but you are special. A rare bird.

Suck-up ;)

re: #155 Dustyvet

It seems the United States' FAA has a unique device for testing windshield strength on airplanes. It is a gun that fires a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at about the same speed the plane flies. The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the impact, it could survive a real collision with a bird during flight. The British wanted to test the device on a new highspeed locomotive they are developing, so they borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded a chicken, and fired. The bird not only shattered the windshield, but also went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab. The stunned Brits asked the FAA to re-check the procedure to see if they had missed something. The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and came back with just one recommendation. "Thaw the bird out first."

There's an AT&T ad like that.

re: #155 Dustyvet

It seems the United States' FAA has a unique device for testing windshield strength on airplanes. It is a gun that fires a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at about the same speed the plane flies. The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the impact, it could survive a real collision with a bird during flight. The British wanted to test the device on a new highspeed locomotive they are developing, so they borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded a chicken, and fired. The bird not only shattered the windshield, but also went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab. The stunned Brits asked the FAA to re-check the procedure to see if they had missed something. The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and came back with just one recommendation. "Thaw the bird out first."

ROTFLMAO

re: #178 Killian Bundy

Sorry old bean, old school spy-craft of the very best kind.

No P C now, no p c..... maybe forever.

re: #155 Dustyvet

It seems the United States' FAA has a unique device for testing windshield strength on airplanes. It is a gun that fires a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at about the same speed the plane flies. The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the impact, it could survive a real collision with a bird during flight. The British wanted to test the device on a new highspeed locomotive they are developing, so they borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded a chicken, and fired. The bird not only shattered the windshield, but also went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab. The stunned Brits asked the FAA to re-check the procedure to see if they had missed something. The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and came back with just one recommendation. "Thaw the bird out first."

Of course, when comparing a bird flying at about 30 mph hitting a plane's windshield when the plane is flying at 600 mph and a bird hitting a train's windshield, when the train is traveling at at 50-80 mph, you have to consider the different types of windshields.
/

re: #185 Rancher

Channeling red are we?

/already covered ↑↑↑

re: #170 shiplord kirel

First they came for the racists
but I was not a racist, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the rednecks,
but I was not a redneck, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the Bible-thumpers,
but I was not a Bible-thumper, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the Wal-Mart shoppers,
but I was not a Wal-Mart shopper, so I did not speak up.

Then they came for the gun-owners,
and that's when I shot them.

Where did this come from? It's a great take off of my favorite quote!

re: #183 realwest

i am stunned--maybe he's bi? NTTAWWT! (eww)

re: #152 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh. Thanks a lot for that. Good thing for you I don't downding unless someone really deserves it, but SINCE THE MASS OF LGFer's SEEM TO AGREE WITH YOU I'LL JUST SAY "THANKS".

mofo.

re: #176 BlueCanuck

NOOOOOO! Not the beagle!

/1857 now.

Yes, my fat Beagle will be howling at your door 1st thing tomarrow. I'm sorry you pushed me to use my heavy firepower.

re: #168 mikeymom

Primetime FAIL.

But it will be great when she has to do that last stupid act to get attention.

It won't be great when several months later she hits the contrition circuit and gets all blubbery about it.

How many times have I seen this crap.

re: #196 realwest

Glad I could be of such help. ;)

re: #177 Sharmuta

Thanks, {Bobi}.

Honey - you just keep on doing what you do - I admire and support your effort, persistence and commitment from my 66 year old vantage point.

Mmmmmm - good. Thx.

re: #194 NoGardtheGreat

Where did this come from? It's a great take off of my favorite quote!

Made up on the spot. I posted an earlier version a few weeks ago in response to some of the detestable John Murtha's remarks about his constituents.

re: #197 Maximu§

Ummm, can we settle out of court?

/really, really need my sleep.

re: #154 DesertSage
Aw man, thanks, but I gotta tell ya it sucks having such a low score!
Damn - guess I better face reality and slow waaay down on my postin' here!

re: #198 unclassifiable

i stopped paying attention years ago-just happened to see a news blurb--yuck poo

re: #183 realwest

Well, I guess there's the possibility that, although Barry didn't write the song, when he was choosing a suitable substitute for "Brandy," he picked "Mandy" because that was already his nickname for Quaaludes.

But more likely, I'd think, is that he first recorded the song in 1974, and then later decided to start calling Quaaludes "Mandy," perhaps because they stopped him from shaking.

Unfortunately, I've now got this mental image of a skinny, androgynous Barry Manilow in the 1970's, partying it up in his groovy shag-carpeted bachelor pad, wasted off his ass and ushering a steady stream of googly-eyed babes back to his bedroom. This is gonna make it hard to get to sleep.

re: #188 FurryOldGuyJeans

Suck-up ;)

Never miss an opportunity!

Man - if you haven't learned that by now.

/

re: #197 Maximu§

Yes, my fat Beagle will be howling at your door 1st thing tomarrow.

Can I apologize and prevent that?

/beagles just won't quit howling once they get started

re: #155 Dustyvet

It seems the United States' FAA has a unique device for testing windshield strength on airplanes. It is a gun that fires a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at about the same speed the plane flies. The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the impact, it could survive a real collision with a bird during flight. The British wanted to test the device on a new highspeed locomotive they are developing, so they borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded a chicken, and fired. The bird not only shattered the windshield, but also went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab. The stunned Brits asked the FAA to re-check the procedure to see if they had missed something. The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and came back with just one recommendation. "Thaw the bird out first."

And, the report from Mythbusters on this?

Episode 9:
A frozen chicken launched in a bird strike simulation can penetrate aircraft or train windshields better than a thawed chicken.
PLAUSIBLE*
Originally, impact time or force transferred was the same for both frozen and thawed chickens, but this test was not conducted using airline-qualified glass, which has a thicker consistency than normal pane glass. This myth was later revisited in season 2.
*The original result was "busted," but when revisited in episode 14 it was changed to "plausible."

Episode 14:
REVISITED: A frozen chicken will penetrate aircraft or train windshields better than a thawed chicken. (From Episode 9)
PLAUSIBLE
When re-visited, frozen chickens could penetrate sets of layered glass panes better. Listed as Plausible because it’s uncertain the original myth actually occurred.

re: #203 realwest

you do that and i'll smack ya silly! upside the head! whack on that cute lil butt!

re: #186 shiplord kirel

That may be, but I don't see how this is inconsistent with anything I said. You are simply reiterating some general historical principles, the questioner asked for specifics.

True, and I can't think of anything more divisive in the last 40 years than abortion, and that wasn't a trigger. Your shadow government already fits in with what the Militia types believe and is the most plausible.

For everyone else that thinks I'm a wee bit off, my favorite books are "end of the world/society" types, The Stand, Lucifer's Hammer, Logan's Run etc. So no tin foil hat here!

re: #202 BlueCanuck

Ummm, can we settle out of court?

/really, really need my sleep.

1-lb of Farmer Johns bacon should settle the matter. You don't want my little Burger-butt at your door....he eats like a hog, sleeps in your bed and snore like an elephant.

re: #186 shiplord kirel

Sir,

The scenario that you laid out seems more akin to Nazi Germany which was a complete changing of not only government but of political philosophy by inaction of the Chancellor and the Riechstag. While both events are violent I read original question as the triggers for a civil war and I answered it specifically.

re: #203 realwest

At least you aren't this user, or this one.

They first came for everyone, when I asked the definition of 'everyone', they put me at the front of the line...

They came for me and I told them I was on vacation and I was just watching his house while he was gone.

re: #205 Last Mohican
I apologize if y'all lose any sleep over it! Truly I do.

re: #208 gmsc

The temperature at 39,000 feet is close to zero degrees Fahrenheit. Think about it... any chicken flying that high would be frozen solid.

When they outlaw dead chicken launchers, only outlaws will......

re: #207 Killian Bundy

Can I apologize and prevent that?

/beagles just won't quit howling once they get started

My Beagle get jealous when I kiss my wife....he actually jumps inbetween us to try and put a stop to it.

re: #217 Last Mohican

The temperature at 39,000 feet is close to zero degrees Fahrenheit. Think about it... any chicken flying that high would be frozen solid.

A chicken flying at any height would qualify as a miracle.

re: #211 Maximu§

yeah--well- my 22lb maine coon cat takes up 1/2 of our king bed and snores and well, dont come between him and his tina fish! hhhrrrmmmph!

re: #201 shiplord kirel

Made up on the spot. I posted an earlier version a few weeks ago in response to some of the detestable John Murtha's remarks about his constituents.

I'd love to repost it, but not without your OK and a way to attribute it to you.

re: #213 FurryOldGuyJeans
Well that's true but damn, for a brief while here I got more comments than anyone and only a measly 7900 for a karma score! Damn - I really though my wit and wisdom was appreciated more than that!
Guess it just goes over some folks heads!

re: #219 Maximu§

In dog language he's shouting , "no! I don't want another mini human appearing in nine months. Stop That!"

re: #221 mikeymom

tina fish?

re: #221 mikeymom

OMG--tuna fish--no offense to tina turner!

Beagles

Get an Exotic or Persian cat.

/they're stoic and mostly silent, but they'll follow you around religiously

re: #225 BignJames

prefers it to Ike fish?

re: #218 Fenway_Nation
ROTFLMAO! One good karma coming your way!

re: #225 BignJames

tina fish?

Yah, you'a know'a the thing'a the fish'a comes'a in'a? ;)

re: #220 FurryOldGuyJeans

A chicken flying at any height would qualify as a miracle.

True, but even stranger things have happened.

re: #223 realwest

I upped you one.
But now I remember something about a longwinded story you had about getting a hat tip or something...? so I'm questioning my judgment...lol

re: #221 mikeymom

yeah--well- my 22lb maine coon cat takes up 1/2 of our king bed and snores and well, dont come between him and his tina fish! hhhrrrmmmph!

lol, another spoiled rotton pet.

My son, who is in bootcamp right now spends half his letters talking about the 90 lb. American Bulldog he left us with...we call her "the White Buffalo"...Buffalo for short, cause she is as big as a Buffalo and craps like one.

re: #211 Maximu§

Well as long as he doesn't fart like a steer. . . . .

/hate the competition.
//white smoke, I think.

re: #210 NoGardtheGreat

True, and I can't think of anything more divisive in the last 40 years than abortion, and that wasn't a trigger. Your shadow government already fits in with what the Militia types believe and is the most plausible.

For everyone else that thinks I'm a wee bit off, my favorite books are "end of the world/society" types, The Stand, Lucifer's Hammer, Logan's Run etc. So no tin foil hat here!

Cool! If you're not already familiar with it, check out Earth Abides by George R. Stewart. Written in 1948, this was one of the first really plausible end-of-the-world novels. It is a thoughtful and understated character study rather than a thriller, but there are some powerful images and clever plot turns along the way. The technical extrapolation is excellent, probably the best in any of these works. I strongly suspect that King lifted some of the plot elements for The Stand, but the work is completely different in tone.
Btw, Pournelle and Niven are reportedly working on a new collaboration with the tentative title Lucifer's Anvil. I don't know if this is a sequel to Lucifer's Hammer, but it would be great if it were.

re: #230 FurryOldGuyJeans

holy mackeral!

re: #209 mikeymom
Oh yeah - well when's the last time you updinged me!
Er, I mean, uh you know, gave me some +'s ? HUH?

re: #212 unclassifiable

Sir,

The scenario that you laid out seems more akin to Nazi Germany which was a complete changing of not only government but of political philosophy by inaction of the Chancellor and the Riechstag. While both events are violent I read original question as the triggers for a civil war and I answered it specifically.

There's no right or wrong, in brain storming. All scenarios are welcome.

In my life time abortion has been the most divisive thing, before I was born, segregation was it. Neither sparked a civil war though.

re: #193 BlueCanuck
Yep. I'm always behind the curve here.

re: #222 NoGardtheGreat

I'd love to repost it, but not without your OK and a way to attribute it to you.

Feel free, just link it here.

re: #236 BignJames

holy mackeral!

Oh, smelt! ;)

re: #233 Maximu§

cute! umm, here in CO we call them buffs- as in CU buffs--btw-- hugs to your son--hope all is well

re: #232 J.D. I saw that you did {J.D.} and I wrote your nic down on the right side of the ledger!
Yes, that's right, I'm keeping score on all y'all!

re: #235 shiplord kirel

I came down with the Flu when I was in the middle of reading The Stand.

re: #219 Maximu§

My Beagle get jealous when I kiss my wife....he actually jumps inbetween us to try and put a stop to it.

Naa - just wants ya to share the love.

White Guilt Is Dead, By Tom Adkins

(Editor's note: This originally appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer.)

Free at last, free at last!

Look at my fellow conservatives! There they go, glumly shuffling along, depressed by the election aftermath. Not me. I'm virtually euphoric.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not thrilled with America's flirtation with neo-socialism.. But there's a massive silver lining in those magical clouds that lofted Barack Obama to the Presidency. For today, without a shred of intellectually legitimate opposition, I can loudly proclaim to America: The Era of White Guilt is over.

This seemingly impossible event occurred because the vast majority of white Americans didn't give a fluff about skin color, and enthusiastically pulled the voting lever for a black man. Not just any black man. A very liberal black man who spent his early career race-hustling banks, praying in a racist church for 20 years, and actively worked with America-hating domestic terrorists. Wow! Some resume! Yet they made Barack Obama their leader. Therefore, as of November 4th, 2008, white guilt is dead.

For over a century, the millstone of white guilt hung around our necks, retribution for slave-owning predecessors. In the 60s, American liberals began yanking that millstone while sticking a fork in the eye of black Americans, exacerbating the racial divide to extort a socialist solution. But if a black man can become President, exactly what significant barrier is left? The election of Barack Obama absolutely destroys the entire validation of liberal white guilt. The dragon is hereby slain.

So today, I'm feeling a little "uppity," if you will. From this day forward, my tolerance level for having my skin color hustled is now exactly ZERO. And it's time to clean house. No more Reverend Wright's "God Damn America," Al Sharpton's Church of Perpetual Victimization, or Jesse Jackson's rainbow racism. Cornell West? You're a fraud. Go home. All those "black studies" programs that taught kids to hate whitey? You must now thank Whitey. And I want that on the final.

Congressional Black Caucus? Irrelevant. Maxine Waters? Shut up. ACORN? Outlawed. Black Panthers? Go home and pet your kitty. Black separatists? Find another nation that offers better dreams. Go ahead. I'm waiting.

Gangsta rappers? Start praising America. Begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. And please, no more ebonics. Speak English, and who knows where you might end up? Oh, yeah, pull up your pants. Your underwear is showing. You look stupid.

Black Fraternities? Seek diversity. Race card? It’s now the joker. Miss Black America? Get in line with all the other lovely ladies. Reparations? Paid.

To those Eurosnots who forged entire careers hating America? I'm still waiting for the first black French President.

And let me offer an equal opportunity whupping. I've always despised lazy white people. Now, I can talk smack about lazy black people. You're poor because you quit school, did drugs, had three kids with three different fathers, and refuse to work. So when you plop your Colt 45-swilling, Oprah watchin' butt on the couch and complain "Da Man is keepin' me down," allow me to inform you: Da Man is now black. You have no excuses.

No more quotas. No more handouts. No more stealing my money because someone's great-great-great-great grandparents suffered actual pain and misery at the hands of people I have no relation to, and personally revile.

It's time to toss that massive, obsolete race-hustle machine upon the heap of the other stupid 60s ideas. Drag it over there, by wife swapping, next to dope-smoking. Plenty of room right between free love and cop-killing. Careful, don't trip on streaking. There ya go, don't be gentle. Just dump it. Wash your hands. It's filthy.

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In fact, Obama's ascension created a gargantuan irony. How can you sell class envy and American unfairness when you and your black wife went to Ivy League schools, got high-paying jobs, became millionaires, bought a mansion, and got elected President? How unfair is that? Now, Like a delicious O'Henry tale, Obama's spread-the-wealth campaign rendered itself moot by it's own victory! America is officially a meritocracy. Obama's election has validated American conservatism!

So, listen carefully…Wham!

That's the sound of my foot kicking the door shut on the era of white guilt. The rites have been muttered, the carcass lowered, dirt shoveled, and tombstone erected. White guilt is dead and buried.

However, despite my glee, there's apparently one small, rabid bastion of American racism remaining. Black Americans voted 96% for Barack Obama. Hmmm. In a color-blind world, shouldn't that be 50-50? Tonight, every black person should ask forgiveness for their apparent racism and prejudice towards white people. Maybe it's time to start spreading the guilt around.

Tom Adkins is the former publisher of CommonConservative.com. He can be reached at tomadkinscc@yahoo.com.

re: #241 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh, smelt! ;)

I've haddock up to here wit da both of youse. Now clam up.

Oh pointy bird, so pointy pointy
Anoint my head, anointy-nointy

~ Steve Martin

re: #248 BlueCanuck

I've haddock up to here wit da both of youse. Now clam up.

Oyster make me!

re: #237 realwest

lolol-- i dont do the dingy thing--but if you were here in person, then i might do a thingy ding--just sayin"

re: #150 Nightwatch

Hey neighbor,

Ever been to Nolan's?

naw.... used to go to the Cajun place a few doors west, until the land lord killed them. did you see my post about the Thai place west of Cahuenga?

re: #243 {realwest}

Well, turnabout is fair play.
_HINT

I used to be the Link Goddess but now that I was gone for so long *sniffle* it was all for naught *sniffle*.

re: #217 Last Mohican

The temperature at 39,000 feet is close to zero degrees Fahrenheit. Think about it... any chicken flying that high would be frozen solid.

That's precisely why you thaw the birds. Very few birds fly that high - even on long migrations, you'll be hard pressed to find a bird that flies above 20,000 feet. Most of them fly in the 2,000 to 5,000 foot range, so the bird problems are encountered most often during take-offs and landings.