At least they didn't violate the rights of any terrorist.

Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the searches were politically motivated

I'd love to see the amount of evidence needed to prove that something is politically motivated.

Weren't politically motivated?

Riiiggghhht.

Unable to determine if it's politically motivated? What ARE they putting in the Kool-aid these days?!

Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the searches were politically motivated, the report said.

These investigators... do they also work for the IAEA?

File this under "Yeah, No Sh*t"

No, duh?

Of course they were improper. And even if they were prompted by pure curiosity, the dissemination of the results was politically motivated.

Couldn't figure out if the searches were politically motivated...Riiight.

Perhaps the searchers were religiously motivated. Someone had blasphemed The One.

Fire. The. Agency. Worker. NOW!

No...the government workers are plumber curious.

re: #5 Sharmuta

These investigators... do they also work for the IAEA?

Nah, they probably work for Obama in some capacity - which is just as scary

lawsuit and for once i support the idea

Only Republicans are capable of conducting improper searches. And, of course, the searches were not politically motivated. Of course.

We've had 6 years of being "unable to prove" that the anti-war crowd is against the war for political reasons rather than "good of the country" reasons.

Of course not! Nobody here but us Democrat chickens!

/Gag

Didn't Clinton promise the "most ethical" administration in history? Well this is an example of "change we can believe in" and an example of the "post-partisan" nature of the Obama administration.

Dont worry. I'm sure Barry will take care of this so nothing improper occurs again.

He'll have the paperwork set up so this becomes routine.

Nah, why would they be politically motivated? Come on people... Lose the conspiracy theories...

Joe the Plumber was under investigation for a looong time before he was 'planted' to confront The One.

/major league sarc

Then I hope an investigation shows it was merely improper for verizon employees to access Obama's account.

Amusing to see "progressives" whine about privacy laws, and civil liberties, yet stand mute as a common citizen was run through the ringer because the Chosen One walked up Joe's driveway.

On a not-so-side note, most Americans also don't realize all their private data (social security numbers, mother's maiden name, etc, etc) are shipped offshore to 3rd world countries such as India.

If this was NOT politically motivated, then I a a bridge for sale. Really a average citizen question to The One Deal Leader and all of a sudden people look up info about him and leak it to the press before a election. No political motivation there.

"Improper." Meaning, ILLEGAL...

Of course it was not political.

It was patriotically done in defense of The One.

/all hail Ming!

Come to think of it, I'm not sure anything has ever been proven to be politically motivated, seems that whenever that accusation is brought against someone it's rejected outright and replaced with a "noble cause" excuse.

re: #20 Kerr Avon

Then I hope an investigation shows it was merely improper for verizon employees to access Obama's account.

We'll have to wait and see what Grand Inquistor Torquemada has to say about that first

re: #19 tfc3rid

GMTNA!

re: #20 Kerr Avon

Those involved it that are likely to be fired, prosecuted, skewered, hung out to dry, and their families banished to a gulog in North Korea.

re: #21 taxfreekiller

This proper and ever so nice.

NYT's stock 5 min ago.

52 week low,,, $5.00
down 12.97% today

PROPER SAY I

Not that this view of NYT stock is much different from anyone else's these days but zooming out over a couple of years and...
[Link: finance.google.com...]

Anal-probe a law abiding citizen and it's "improper". Wire tap a terrorist and it's a FELONY.

Got it...

Joe the Plumber Searches Were 'Improper'

In other news

Charles Manson's massacres were "unbecoming"
Adolph Hitlers final solution was "ill advised'
Pol Pots regime was "imodest"

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dont worry. I'm sure Barry will take care of this so nothing improper occurs again.

He'll have the paperwork set up so this becomes routine.

I'm afraid that if The One's socialist programs come to fruition, this may actually become the case. Anyone who doesn't drink the Kool-aid needs to be "reeducated", remember?

Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the searches were politically motivated, the report said.

These investigators need a GPS device to locate their backsides.

Come on, so they dug into the guy's background a little. Who among us wouldn't expect the exact same treatment if we dared to raise our peasant's head and presumed to embarrass the Lightworker? Heretics got to be watched, and dissent is only patriotic when it opposes Republicans or the war. Has nobody been paying attention?

"All these searches were done in the midst of a national political campaign," the report said. "But we did not find any evidence that shows the data was accessed or information released in response to media requests in an effort to support any political activity or agenda."

OH! Well- if they weren't in response to media requests, then they couldn't possibly have been politically motivated. Because only the media makes political requests, right?

They must think we were all born yesterday.

re: #31 CIA Reject

Anal-probe a law abiding citizen and it's "improper". Wire tap a terrorist and it's a FELONY.

Got it...

The average citizen isn't likey to be able to get the ACLU, CAIR and several ME governments to sue your ass.

/sad but true

re: #34 Gretchen

These investigators need a GPS device to locate their backsides.

And instructions printed on the bottom of the boot.

re: #12 taxfreekiller

John F'n Kerry's life of lies and fraud are improper too, also.

You know we really have to get you two together some time for a pay-per-view face-o-face debate.

You up for it?

/Kerry probably isn't

yooo hooo ACLU where are youuu?

/@ a nambla meeting no doubt

Searches weren't politically motivated?

I needed a good laugh today :) and I can count on the MSM to give it to me...

The findings have been forwarded to the Franklin County prosecutor's office in Columbus.

Anybody in the area want to handicap the odds of prosecution?

"All these searches were done in the midst of a national political campaign," the report said. "But we did not find any evidence that shows the data was accessed or information released in response to media requests in an effort to support any political activity or agenda."

How about in response to requests by a certain campaign organization?

re: #38 taxfreekiller

What, exactly, does "cutting dividends" mean?

re: #36 Sharmuta

OH! Well- if they weren't in response to media requests, then they couldn't possibly have been politically motivated. Because only the media makes political requests, right?

They must think we were all born yesterday.

It's the out and out chutzpah of looking you straight in the eye and blasting away with outrageous and obvious lies over and over again that really pisses me off.

re: #38 taxfreekiller

If they go under... who is going to leak all the secret Bush administrations file plans for world dominance before 1-20-09?

re: #2 bosforus

I'd love to see the amount of evidence needed to prove that something is politically motivated.

Defined by which side of the aisle you're sitting on.

re: #6 Ford_Prefect

OMG ford, there are pieces of gingerbread in that latte.

re: #36 Sharmuta

Well you have enough karma to be reincarnated :)

It all depends on what your definition of "improper" is.

Weren't politically motivated?

When all other possibilities have been ruled out, whatever remains, no matter how unlikely (or how much you don't want it to be so), is the answer.

re: #45 bosforus

What, exactly, does "cutting dividends" mean?

that means "who got my money, sucka?"

This kind of thing works both ways, it seems.

Obama's cell phone records breached.

Is this political?

lizard people receive votes

from hot air

full article here

re: #44 wrenchwench

How about in response to requests by a certain campaign organization?

See, I don't think any kind of communication took place at all. Like in the Mob; guys don't have to be told what to do - they know it already. Same deal here: nobody said "Look into this guy," the diggers did it on their own initiative. It's what distinguishes an ideology from a command-structure.

re: #41 Shug

yooo hooo ACLU where are youuu?

/@ a nambla meeting no doubt

... running it as president no doubt...

re: #55 iceman

Breathalyzers for the voting booth coming soon.

I've got a better one for you all, fellow Lizards:
Yesterday, I was up in San Francisco to see my dentist for an afternoon appointment (verdict - four watch areas, so I need to be careful and floss more.) I went to Union Square in the heart of the city, about a block from the dentist's office, to get an espresso at Cafe Rulli (it's a good espresso, usually.) As I sat outside at a table, watching people on the ice skating rink (they're doing that now in the Square during the holiday season), I couldn't help but overhear a loud and exuberant conversation happening at the table next to me. There were 6 guys talking about politics - all in their mid twenties to mid thirties, rather preppy looking, not exactly the dirt under fingernails type of guy...Anyway, a tall skinny grey haired one was discussing the fact that he was a journalist (SF Chronicle? I didn't really catch who he worked for), and they were discussing journalistic malfeasance and lack of objectivity in the last election. This guys response: "Ya know something? It's true, but I don't care. The fact is that I know much more about public policies than most people, and I can tell them what they need to know, because frankly I know better."

I KID YOU NOT.

re: #58 taxfreekiller

how's that working for ya Sulzberger,?

Pinche Cabron.

re: #36 Sharmuta

OH! Well- if they weren't in response to media requests, then they couldn't possibly have been politically motivated. Because only the media makes political requests, right?

They must think we were all born yesterday.

you're way too karma-ful

re: #53 rawmuse

that means "who got my money, sucka?"

So it means they're just not paying out 74% of owed dividends? Are they trying to lose business?

re: #8 hailing frequencies open

Let's be clear on this - Joe did not blaspheme - simply asked a question that generated an honest response from the One.

re: #60 StudSupreme

The Vision of the Anointed. That is the name of that syndrome.
I think a book was written about it.

re: #62 Eowyn2

No one is more amazed than me. I'm humbled, really.

speaking of karma

how about a karma per comment rating.

like a pitchers ERA.

just throwing that out there

re: #60 StudSupreme

I've got a better one for you all, fellow Lizards:
Yesterday, I was up in San Francisco to see my dentist for an afternoon appointment (verdict - four watch areas, so I need to be careful and floss more.) I went to Union Square in the heart of the city, about a block from the dentist's office, to get an espresso at Cafe Rulli (it's a good espresso, usually.) As I sat outside at a table, watching people on the ice skating rink (they're doing that now in the Square during the holiday season), I couldn't help but overhear a loud and exuberant conversation happening at the table next to me. There were 6 guys talking about politics - all in their mid twenties to mid thirties, rather preppy looking, not exactly the dirt under fingernails type of guy...Anyway, a tall skinny grey haired one was discussing the fact that he was a journalist (SF Chronicle? I didn't really catch who he worked for), and they were discussing journalistic malfeasance and lack of objectivity in the last election. This guys response: "Ya know something? It's true, but I don't care. The fact is that I know much more about public policies than most people, and I can tell them what they need to know, because frankly I know better."

I KID YOU NOT.

That is the attitude of the MSM. They think they know better. morons.

re: #56 Guanxi88

See, I don't think any kind of communication took place at all. Like in the Mob; guys don't have to be told what to do - they know it already. Same deal here: nobody said "Look into this guy," the diggers did it on their own initiative. It's what distinguishes an ideology from a command-structure.

Everyone heard how the dnc sent all those lawyers to ak. I wonder how many people in ID were looking into Sarah P's family there?

re: #59 unclassifiable

Breathalyzers for the voting booth coming soon.

But, but, breathalyzers are racist!
/

These are shades of things to come.
I do not trust the incoming administration.

re: #63 bosforus

So it means they're just not paying out 74% of owed dividends? Are they trying to lose business?

I will defer an answer to the pro financial types, but the short answer is, they owe you money in the form of a dividend, and you are not getting it.

re: #40 unclassifiable

We might have to have an arm wrestling contest to determine who does the honors.

re: #67 Shug

I'd be the Cy Young award winner for LGF.

Damn near zero.

re: #66 Sharmuta

No one is more amazed than me. I'm humbled, really.

that's what happens when you're considered one of the most dangerous LGFers in the whole wide world.

On another note:

I'm sad - not much karma

/also not many posts of interest, as I'm mostly a Johnny-come lately lurker

They can't figure it out due to being political hacks instead of real investigators. Real investigations call for finding the facts, and sometimes interpreting those facts to determine the motive that the perp had for the crime.

Political hacks find the facts then get told by the "boss" to shut their yaps and let it all die away. That way they both get to keep their jobs.

re: #60 StudSupreme
"Ya know something? It's true, but I don't care. The fact is that I know much more about public policies than most people, and I can tell them what they need to know, because frankly I know better."

The liberal media...spit

re: #69 Eowyn2

Everyone heard how the dnc sent all those lawyers to ak. I wonder how many people in ID were looking into Sarah P's family there?

See, now that's different; there was an organization in place, with orders and a mandate. Snooping on Joe, that was strictly freelance, something to try to get them in solid with the boss.

re: #72 rawmuse

That's an odd way to keep shareholders.

re: #76 Florida Lady

I updinged you because I like most of your posts and I am trying to share the wealth.

re: #14 Cheesehead

Only Republicans are capable of conducting improper searches. And, of course, the searches were not politically motivated. Of course.

Of course. Democrats never do anything politically motivated.

/need i?

American Democrat Stalinist
and what did the poor Fem-Stalin get for her dirty deeds? a one month paid vacation. of course!

re: #76 Florida Lady

really your upding to post ratio is pretty high.

re: #60 StudSupreme

This guys response: "Ya know something? It's true, but I don't care. The fact is that I know much more about public policies than most people, and I can tell them what they need to know, because frankly I know better."

There's a level of arrogance and elitism in there that is just astounding. And people wonder why the MSM is no longer trusted by most of the US population.

I'm just catching the end of the Glen Beck show. Besides learning the apocalypse is upon us, he said there was a huge cyber attack on the pentagon yesterday. I did a quick search and found this:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Does sound rather serious.

re: #81 bellamags

I updinged you because I like most of your posts and I am trying to share the wealth.

I'm sitting in the lotus position, enjoying my karma.

/om

re: #64 Cap'n DOC

Let's be clear on this - Joe did not blaspheme - simply asked a question that generated an honest response from the One.

Yes, but it was kind of a "why does G*d need a starship?" question.

Dangerous...

/

re: #76 Florida Lady

Aww- look at it this way. You could have the karma of JMV.

The media has gone far beyond giving Obama perpetual home field advantage, the wind at his back each quarter and last bats. They now have now entered into an evil bargain with the refs, umpires and linesman. This would be scary were it not for the fact that Obama machine wrote so many cheques to so many believers that when the cheques start to bounce in a few weeks even the true believers are going to realize that they were scammed. For example, gays in San Francisco are about to find out that Barak will soon turn his back on them, and not in the way they like.

I hope Joe will bring a hugh law suit against everyone who was involved in investigating him after he asked a question of Barry. This should also include the media people who asked gov't officials in Ohio to look into Joe. All Ohio gov't officials who did the investigation should be fired.

re: #85 Honorary Yooper

If their rating was akin to our CongressCritters, we could believe about - what? 10% of what they say?

re: #65 rawmuse

The Vision of the Anointed. That is the name of that syndrome.
I think a book was written about it.

The SF journalist was half-right.

Certainly he knows MORE about public policy that the vast majority of the sheeple.

But that doesn't mean that he knows BETTER what's good for them. (And of course, even if that were demonstrably true, it's not in his job description to make those choices for them. The theory and grand lie of modern journalism is that it's supposed to present facts and information so that an informed citizenry can make its own informed choices.)

ACLU to sue...

What? We haven't heard from ACLU?

That's strange...

good morning Lizards,
blistering cold here in NYC, snow expected later...

It seems to be part of the "revolution" to employ every possible means in order to win the "noble" fight.
/

re: #89 Sharmuta

Aww- look at it this way. You could have the karma of JMV.

Or annefrance's ratio of karma to comments of -34.39.

Let me get this straight: LGF is against the government abusing its authority to probing into the private affairs of every-day citizens?

re: #88 CIA Reject

Yes, but it was kind of a "why does G*d need a starship?" question.

Dangerous...

/

Beautiful analogy.

re: #67 Shug

speaking of karma

how about a karma per comment rating.

like a pitchers ERA.

just throwing that out there

More like slugging prercentage. Some people have more karma than comments.

re: #63 bosforus

Dividends are not owed - expected by most companies but not owed.
I hope you are not in the market.

re: #90 RoyalCanadian

The media has gone far beyond giving Obama perpetual home field advantage, the wind at his back each quarter and last bats. They now have now entered into an evil bargain with the refs, umpires and linesman. This would be scary were it not for the fact that Obama machine wrote so many cheques to so many believers that when the cheques start to bounce in a few weeks even the true believers are going to realize that they were scammed. For example, gays in San Francisco are about to find out that Barak will soon turn his back on them, and not in the way they like.

"Bend... and SNAP!"

OT

Just realized I heard Iowahawk's work on the radio this morning

re: #97 justiceforall

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. What is your point?

re: #87 Ward Cleaver

Do you have your singing bowls CD in the player and patchouli incense burning?

re: #43 Sol Roth

Anybody in the area want to handicap the odds of prosecution?

About the same as Ahmadinejad announcing that he's converted to Judaism.

re: #100 LindaMarie

Dividends are not owed - expected by most companies but not owed.
I hope you are not in the market.

Ha ha, trust me, I know my weaknesses and I am not in the market.

re: #81 bellamags

I updinged you because I like most of your posts and I am trying to share the wealth.

LOL - you made my Friday!

Thanks for sharing - if I had a wealth of wisdom to share, I'd do it.

No one will be punished in any significant meaningful way, lest Democrats be deterred in the future.

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Just realized I heard Iowahawk's work on the radio this morning

I'm afraid Iowahawk is going to have a tough time of it after January 20th when a "self-satirizing" administration is installed in Washington.

/Ya can't make this sh*t up!

re: #105 bellamags

Do you have your singing bowls CD in the player and patchouli incense burning?

You bet! I'm wearing a genuine Navajo blanket, too.

/oh yeah

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

See the top of his head, there?

I think his forehead has a rug burn.

re: #89 Sharmuta

Aww- look at it this way. You could have the karma of JMV.

This Friday continues to get better and better! Thanks for reminding me of that!

re: #111 CIA Reject

I'm afraid Iowahawk is going to have a tough time of it after January 20th when a "self-satirizing" administration is installed in Washington.

/Ya can't make this sh*t up!

Welcome to my world, around Chicago. The politicians here are more outrageous than the commedians.

re: #97 justiceforall

Let me get this straight: LGF is against the government abusing its authority to probing into the private affairs of every-day citizens?

Yes. And according to the New York Times, so is the Bush Administration: New York Police Fight With U.S. on Surveillance

By DAVID JOHNSTON and WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM
Published: November 19, 2008

WASHINGTON — An effort by the New York Police Department to get broader latitude to eavesdrop on terrorism suspects has run into sharp resistance from the Justice Department in a bitter struggle that has left the police commissioner and the attorney general accusing each other of putting the public at risk.

The Police Department, with the largest municipal counterterrorism operation in the country, wants the Justice Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation to loosen their approach to the federal law that governs electronic surveillance. But federal officials have refused to relax the standards, and have said requests submitted by the department could actually jeopardize surveillance efforts by casting doubt on their legality.

Under the law, the government must in most cases obtain a warrant from the special Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court before it can begin electronic monitoring of people suspected of spying or terrorism. The requests are subjected to sharp scrutiny, first by lawyers at the F.B.I., then by lawyers at the Justice Department, and finally by the court itself.

New York’s department, as a local police force, cannot apply directly, but must seek warrants through the F.B.I. and the Justice Department. The police want those agencies to expedite their requests, and say that the federal agencies unfairly blocked the city’s applications for surveillance warrants, first in June and then in September. The disagreement, in which the Bush Justice Department has taken a more cautious approach than police officials, is something of an unexpected twist for an administration that has more often seemed willing to stretch legal boundaries to fight terrorism.

Larry Mendte: A Totally Whack Hack Attack

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Just realized I heard Iowahawk's work on the radio this morning

Wow, what was it? What station?

re: #85 Honorary Yooper

Only the MSM wonders. The people have made up their minds hence the value of the NYT stock.

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of which... He introduces the new PelosiMobile today - straight off the line (dance) at Congressional Motors.

re: #97 justiceforall

Let me get this straight: LGF is against the government abusing its authority to probing into the private affairs of every-day citizens?

Individuals here may be. You parody the Collectivist mind very well, good one!

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

See the top of his head, there?

karma -699

re: #113 Sharmuta

I think his forehead has a rug burn.

Vicious and well-wrought!

re: #112 Ward Cleaver

You bet! I'm wearing a genuine Navajo blanket, too.

/oh yeah

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY NAVAJO DIED TO MAKE THAT BLANKET!?

/

re: #114 Florida Lady

Or- you could have the karma of justiceforall. Always look on the bright side.

I'm loving the karma- one click way to look up troll status in a lot of cases.

All Joe the plumber did was ask Obama a question that Obama answered honestly... And Obama has not condemned this invasion of Joe's personal business.

re: #111 CIA Reject

I'm afraid Iowahawk is going to have a tough time of it after January 20th when a "self-satirizing" administration is installed in Washington.

/Ya can't make this sh*t up!

He is completely up to the task. In fact, his main issue will be selecting the best targets in such an overwhelmingly target-rich environment.

re: #49 bellamags

OMG ford, there are pieces of gingerbread in that latte.

Yummy, Huh?

Gotto go to a lunch meeting. Later lizards.

It wasn't political, she just wanted to ask him out and was tryin to get his digits and myspace page. DUH

So, these searches were improper, Helen Jones-Kelley is being suspended without pay for a month, but wont be fired just yet despite her lying about there being a policy to run searches on notable people when they get their 15 minutes of fame.

Interesting.

Meanwhile, Verizon has fired those involved in checking out Obama's phone records. They didn't waste any time in apologizing either.

Where are the apologies from Gov. Strickland to Joe the Plumber? None. Crickets.

re: #115 Honorary Yooper

Welcome to my world, around Chicago. The politicians here are more outrageous than the commedians.

"Life imitates Iowahawk"- cool!

Tragic, but cool...

re: #112 Ward Cleaver

You bet! I'm wearing a genuine Navajo blanket, too.

/oh yeah

don't forget to smudge some sage at all four corners of the room, hang a wind chime and most importantly - shave your head so the energy can flow freely.

re: #70 Honorary Yooper

But, but, breathalyzers are racist!
/

Apparently they are in CT. For real. I saw a clip this AM on the news and a lawyer here actually said that in court.

re: #118 Ward Cleaver

re: #120 Cap'n DOC

Speaking of which... He introduces the new PelosiMobile today - straight off the line (dance) at Congressional Motors.

Rick Roberts morning show in San Diego read the Pelosimobile ad this morning

re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY NAVAJO DIED TO MAKE THAT BLANKET!?

/

Not enough. It could be a little bigger.

/ducking

There was no legitimate business purpose for the head of Ohio’s Department of Job and Family Services to order staff to look up the records, Inspector General Tom Charles said.

Give 'em da "Plunger of Doom" and flush twice.

re: #120 Cap'n DOC

Speaking of which... He introduces the new PelosiMobile today - straight off the line (dance) at Congressional Motors.

As pricey as a Ferrari, as reliable as a Yugo, as cramped as a 1970s Civic, and as ugly as an Edsel.

re: #63 bosforus

So it means they're just not paying out 74% of owed dividends? Are they trying to lose business?

Dividends are a portion of a company's profit that are paid out to the stockholders in cash. When a company is losing money, they usually cannot keep paying a dividend very long, although companies are loath to cut their dividend. This is a public recognition by the NYT that they don't have the profits, and thus the available cash, to continue paying out as much to their shareholders. Don't know why they didn't completely eliminate their dividend, given the amount of their losses, and their poor financial condition.

re: #127 stuiec

He is completely up to the task. In fact, his main issue will be selecting the best targets in such an overwhelmingly target-rich environment.

Yes, but how will we be able to distinguish between his satire and the "real" news?

re: #122 2by2

karma -699

sweet troll detector.

re: #116 stuiec

An effort by the New York Police Department to get broader latitude to eavesdrop on terrorism suspects has run into sharp resistance from the Justice Department in a bitter struggle that has left the police commissioner and the attorney general accusing each other of putting the public at risk.

Gee, where is the obligatory "Bushitler" appellation? Did he, (gasp!) do something right?

re: #123 Guanxi88

I've been waiting MONTHS for him to tell me what sort of justice. All I get are *crickets* or some BS about it being a line from the pledge of allegiance, as if I didn't know that.

Ohio's Department of Job and Family Services? That's basically the equivalent of the agency I work for here in California. Our Internal Security people watch our IT and Automation division like hawks. We get daily surprise security checks, and if I pulled something like that, it would mean immediate firing.

re: #97 justiceforall

me thinks he is going to go to the gay marrage thing now. FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THE GOBERMENT SHOULD BE IN THE MARRAGE BUS. ALTOGETHER. why should a single person pay a different tax rate than a married person.

re: #126 seekeroftruth

All Joe the plumber did was ask Obama a question that Obama answered honestly... And Obama has not condemned this invasion of Joe's personal business.

Of course not. Joe The Plumber brought a question. Barack Obama brought a media brigade. Remeber, Obama does The Chicago Way very well. He brings a knife, you bring a gun. He injures yours, you put his in the morgue. This is done to countless political careers aroudn these parts.

re: #120 Cap'n DOC

Speaking of which... He introduces the new PelosiMobile today - straight off the line (dance) at Congressional Motors.

Indeed. Why bother with this stupid $25 billion dollar loan/grant/bailout package, when Congress could simply mandate that all US taxpayers purchase a Detroit-made car this year? Give the taxpayers 60-month low-interest US Treasury financing (conveniently charged to their tax withholding) and a randomly-assigned delivery date at some point within that 60-month window (to avoid shortages by spreading out the production evenly over that time).

At least you couldn't say this Government program gives you nothing in return for your tax dollars...

re: #137 Honorary Yooper

As pricey as a Ferrari, as reliable as a Yugo, as cramped as a 1970s Civic, and as ugly as an Edsel.

...nice candy colors though

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Just realized I heard Iowahawk's work on the radio this morning

The car shown is the infamous electric CitiCar, from the early '70s. Ed Begley, Jr has driven them for years. Those clothes? Yikes, I remember them.

re: #148 Ward Cleaver

The car shown is the infamous electric CitiCar, from the early '70s. Ed Begley, Jr has driven them for years. Those clothes? Yikes, I remember them.

I don't want to remember those clothes.

It's a brave, new world. The truly scary thing about this is the media's indifference to it, which leads directly to the public's indifference to it. The media decides what will and will not be discussed and thereby sets the tone of the national consciousness. Chilling and a clear and present danger to the life of the Republic...

re: #140 bellamags

sweet troll detector.

nice tool, though a bit intimidating, looking at the buzz/sharm score compared with my paltry +99

re: #97 justiceforall

So you went nuts over the Patriot Act and of course the Administration has to get things right the very first time despite the fact that we have a Congress (that I presume you can contact) and a Supreme Court that can and have modified its provisions.

And it takes a long time holding my breath to type a run on sentence like that so don't expect me to do it again.

No attacks since 9/11. And hopefully not anymore even with O in office.

re: #138 Son of the Black Dog

Ah, thank you.

re: #150 LGoPs

It's a brave, new world. The truly scary thing about this is the media's indifference to it, which leads directly to the public's indifference to it. The media decides what will and will not be discussed and thereby sets the tone of the national consciousness. Chilling and a clear and present danger to the life of the Republic...

see my #117 - it even happens to TV news broadcasters!

re: #102 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Just realized I heard Iowahawk's work on the radio this morning

Just to satisfy my vain curiosity... what station?

re: #151 2by2

nice tool, though a bit intimidating, looking at the buzz/sharm score compared with my paltry +99

YOU MUST look at post to ding ratio.

re: #157 Iron Fist

Can't he just eat his waffle?

re: #156 bellamags

YOU MUST look at post to ding ratio.

ah, ok, so in hockey terms I'm above .500, feels better, thx

re: #111 CIA Reject

I'm afraid Iowahawk is going to have a tough time of it after January 20th when a "self-satirizing" administration is installed in Washington.

/Ya can't make this sh*t up!

Actually Iowahawk should have a very target rich environment.

re: #158 Sharmuta

Can't he just eat his waffle?

In Obama's America , waffle eats you

re: #155 iowahawk

I have a question. Where in the hell did you find the clip art of the disco dudes? That is totally bizarre.

re: #94 Buck

ACLU to sue...

What? We haven't heard from ACLU?

That's strange...

Surprising news:

The American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio recently called on Gov. Ted Strickland and other officials to enact regulations protecting private information kept in state databases.

The ACLU first pressed for reform after it was revealed officials at Ohio’s Department of Job & Family Services conducted a search of private information on Joseph Wurzelbacher, also known as “Joe the Plumber,” and that such searches of those in news headlines were common protocol for the office.

re: #162 Shug

In Obama's America , waffle eats you

Kinky!

re: #157 Iron Fist

There is no one above his pay grade for him to dump the responsibility on.

Yeah but there are is an entire country below his pay grade to dump on.

Welcome to the corporate White House circa 2009.

re: #162 Shug

can't wait till the PARTY COMES TO YOU

re: #141 Sol Roth

Gee, where is the obligatory "Bushitler" appellation? Did he, (gasp!) do something right?

Apparently spying on terrorists to keep Americans safe is only kosher with the NY Times if (a) the Americans being kept safe are them and their families and (b) the people doing the spying are New York's finest.

Not to denigrate the NYPD as a whole, but haven't they had some issues in recent years regarding the civil rights of suspects and detainees? It wasn't at Gitmo that a man's colon was perforated by an officer anally raping him with a plunger handle, was it? And how many shots were fired at -- I mean, THROUGH -- that guy reaching for his wallet?

re: #130 lawhawk

Apologies? That should be at the minimum. Suspension? No, termination seems the proper action...and just why did the investigators think she ordered her people to make the search since no other instance of an search was uncovered based on someone who is or suddenly became 'famous'? The entire thing is sham as evidenced by the 'we cannot tell if this was done for political purposes' canard. The motivation is immaterial - the offense was conducting the search without a proper basis.

More of the double standard. Move along.

re: #155 iowahawk

Just to satisfy my vain curiosity... what station?

I used to see one of those crappy CitiCars (a green one) all the time, near my town.

The inspector general concluded that Joans-Kelly improperly used state e-mail to engage in political activity yet he can't find any evidence that shows Joe's data was accessed to support a political agenda? Yeah, right. I hope Joe sues the shit out of the state. Oh, and a month off with no pay, what a friggin joke. Hell if I'm caught using the company computer to search one nude photo I'd be canned. This is just ridiculous.

I wonder where my daily email from Anthony D. Romero is about this one.

re: #97 justiceforall

I can't speak for LGF, but I am

against the government abusing its authority to probing into the private affairs of every-day citizens?

Got a problem with that?

re: #161 buzzsawmonkey

Christmas is coming, and Obama has a "Present" for the entire nation!

Yeah, bend over, here it comes.

I dunno, I lack outrage. This stuff happens every day. At my current employment gig, do you have any idea of the intrusive stuff they ask to get hired? Had to use my social security number to register for some online course they required everyone to take. Just friggin' facts of life, whatever laws exist are violated daily. Don't even think of what the credit agencies know about you. Much less Google. Much less Carnivore -or was that superseded?

Nah, "Bush's illegal wiretapping". It's ok to wire-tap suspected terrorists, so why isn't ok to aggressively vet Joe-the-Plumber?

re: #144 yochanan

me thinks he is going to go to the gay marrage thing now. FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THE GOBERMENT SHOULD BE IN THE MARRAGE BUS. ALTOGETHER. why should a single person pay a different tax rate than a married person.

re: #148 Ward Cleaver

The car shown is the infamous electric CitiCar, from the early '70s. Ed Begley, Jr has driven them for years. Those clothes? Yikes, I remember them.

Indeed it is, and perhaps it should have been the ShitiCar. The ultimate in automotive sanctimony until the dawn of Prius.

re: #158 Sharmuta

Sorry, Eggo just went under.

/

re: #164 seekeroftruth

THIS PORCINE AVIATOR TIME AND/OR LARGE SINGING LADY

re: #130 lawhawk

So, these searches were improper, Helen Jones-Kelley is being suspended without pay for a month, but wont be fired just yet despite her lying about there being a policy to run searches on notable people when they get their 15 minutes of fame.

Interesting.

Meanwhile, Verizon has fired those involved in checking out Obama's phone records. They didn't waste any time in apologizing either.

Where are the apologies from Gov. Strickland to Joe the Plumber? None. Crickets.

btw, what happened to the kid who got into Sarah Palin's Yahoo e-mail account?

re: #173 Stonemason

I can't speak for LGF, but I am

Got a problem with that?

It seems some people have a hard time distinguishing between government and private property.

So this lady, according to Ace, only got 1 month unpaid leave. Wow. Serious punishment.

re: #175 itellu3times

You are correct. Privacy is a complete myth in our era.
The current laws regarding privacy are supposed to be self enforcing, but they seldom are.

It is as if one is standing in the middle of a room naked and requesting that no one look at them.

re: #174 Ward Cleaver

NEED KY JELLY?

She got a month suspension without pay for this...wow...just wow! We really are living in dangerous times and it is a little bit scary watching America change this fast and for all the wrong reasons.

OT...

As part of her senior project on the Fairness Doctrine, my daughter has been interning at the local talk radio station. It snowed today so she e-mailed them to see if it was still a go for her to go in today. The producer said no problem...

then mentioned to her that the show and the producer had been contacted by the FCC and told to keep a log starting now of all "political" guests--like the local commissioners or state officials--that they have on the show and the amount of time they are on...

Guess what is coming?

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

/

El tago del sarco

No

re: #120 Cap'n DOC

Ha Ha! My dad has two of those pictured cars, called CitiCars, I believe. It would only go about 40 miles or so on a charge, but they were quite fun to drive. Floor the "accelerator" and the tires would smoke like a Mustang Cobra, but then all the fuses would blow.

The Dems, the One, the MSM, the libs in general could not give a rats ass about Joe the Plumber or all the little Joe-the-plumber people in America...unless of course, all the Joes are union members...then that's another raticulae rump matter all together as all unioners have to pay their Boston bean pie-d piper to protect all their little rat asses.
Fire that dirty-dem govt. official immediately and prosecute her or him if applicable.
Speaking of Unions as in autos...BUY FOREIGN!

re: #177 iowahawk

I'm sure I can say this for more than a few people, but it' be way cool if you'd pop in more often. Hope Iowa's treating you well.

Why are they continuing to lie like this? They know that we are all onto their game. At least some of the MSM folks have gotten past the charade of being impartial and have come out unabashedly for The One, but others are still hanging on to the farce.

What I would like to see, in a perverse sort of way, is this:

Joe the Plumber records search was politically motivated . . . and we'll do it again if you cross The One.

re: #132 bellamags

don't forget to smudge some sage at all four corners of the room, hang a wind chime and most importantly - shave your head so the energy can flow freely.

Shave your head? None of the Navaho's I know are bald. Not even the elders.

Hey Iowahawk, I just went and voted for Bill Kullbom's street rod. And thanks for those auto show pictures the other day. Kick-ass.

re: #183 Globular Cluster

So this lady, according to Ace, only got 1 month unpaid leave. Wow. Serious punishment.

Yes, but she should think of it as an investment in her future. She's shown she can be counted on to do the right thing by BHO, and this sort of thing has a way of being remembered when folks like him hog-call their followers to the trough of public service.

She'll make back what she lost in short order.

re: #152 unclassifiable

No attacks since 9/11. And hopefully not anymore even with O in office.

One can hope. However, the history of Al Qaeda shows that their highest priority when a new Administration takes office in Washington is to test it with high-profile terror attacks. I HOPE that there are no such attacks, but I EXPECT that there will in fact be a series of them in a whole lot of places around the world -- Indonesia, East Africa, North Africa, South America, Western Europe, and yes, North America -- specifically including the USA. Al Qaeda will want to put Obama into such a panic that he won't be able to order any effective and coordinated action to counter them, and instead will want to draw in America's appendages of power like the head, legs and tail of a turtle.

re: #179 yochanan

THIS PORCINE AVIATOR TIME AND/OR LARGE SINGING LADY

Yes it is! I was surprised to see anything from the ACLU.

re: #182 bellamags

It seems some people have a hard time distinguishing between government and private property.

And the difference between a suspect of an official investigation and a private citizen

re: #143 acwgusa

Ohio's Department of Job and Family Services? That's basically the equivalent of the agency I work for here in California. Our Internal Security people watch our IT and Automation division like hawks. We get daily surprise security checks, and if I pulled something like that, it would mean immediate firing.

Difference being that you're not an appointed Democrat flunky bureaucrat.

OT-

The car makers want a bailout, yet they make stupid eaither/or statement like this...

"GM, the largest U.S. automaker, said it might run out of cash as early as the end of the year and that the risk was even greater by mid-2009 . GM Chief Executive Officer Rick Wagoner said this week GM would have to liquidate if it went into bankruptcy."

So, you really have no idea when you could run out of cash?

Geeessshhh.

re: #187 yesandno

A whole lot of creative circumvention of the law and the FCC.

re: #169 Athos

More of the double standard. Move along.

I think I find that was the most disheartening this this past election cycle. The indifference the press paid to real character issues and jumping on the smear bandwagon all due to ideology.

That the public was so oblivious to this was truly frightening. Not to be gloomy, but just what kind of administration is this going to be and will the public just tolerate it as well with the press telling them how GREAT everything is going?

Ohio's Dept. of Jobs and Family Services weren't politically motivated? Nah. Why on earth would a bloated Big Gov. dependent 'helping' organization be motivated to get just about the Biggest Big Government Ever candidate elected POTUS? That's plain old silly.

this was meant to intimidate anyone who might not go along w/ the oppressive program they have planned for us.
the message is, accept the messiah or else.

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

OT-

The car makers want a bailout, yet they make stupid eaither/or statement like this...

"GM, the largest U.S. automaker, said it might run out of cash as early as the end of the year and that the risk was even greater by mid-2009 . GM Chief Executive Officer Rick Wagoner said this week GM would have to liquidate if it went into bankruptcy."

So, you really have no idea when you could run out of cash?

Geeessshhh.

It depends on whether auto sales pick up and/or credit markets loosen up. Best case vs. worst case scenario.

re: #157 Iron Fist

There is no one above his pay grade for him to dump the responsibility on.

There is truly One who is above his pay grade. Think the O would try to blame Him?

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

It depends on whether auto sales pick up and/or credit markets loosen up. Best case vs. worst case scenario.

Oh.

It the Obama era, we will spread the wealth, spread personal information, spread Liberal manure. A whole lot of spreading going on.

Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the searches were politically motivated, the report said.

In other news, police have found the skull of a man. Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the man was dead, the report said.

re: #184 rawmuse

You are correct. Privacy is a complete myth in our era.
The current laws regarding privacy are supposed to be self enforcing, but they seldom are.

It is as if one is standing in the middle of a room naked and requesting that no one look at them.

OK, I agree that information is out there on everyone but the point is - what is done with that information? And in my opinion, liberals are far more likely to try to use it to destroy someone, even the little guy, than conservatives are.

re: #197 seekeroftruth

Yes it is! I was surprised to see anything from the ACLU.

Why? The election is over, their guy won -- they can now afford to be gracious and appear to have the interests of all Americans (not just moonbats) at heart.

I repost my [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I am a special kind of pissed off about this. Where is the ACLU?

Isn't this exactly the fuck what they are supposed to be protecting?

I am calling them and asking where they h3ll they are.

The looters are winning.

I have sent my state senators and the senators of Ohio the following:

Senator [],

I am writing to you because I want you to see the email I have
sent my own State senators, [blank] and [blank]. I urge you to
further stand for the cause of justice and civil rights by acting
on this disgusting abuse that has occurred in *your* state.

Senator [],

I urge you to stand up for the cause of freedom and civil rights
that your party purports themselves to be the champions of. The
investigation and subsequent trashing of Joe Wurzelbacher (Joe
the plumber) after the incident of him questioning Barack Obama
is something I find disgusting and un-American in every way.

Not only was he hounded and his private life intruded upon by the
media in a very distasteful manner, but it is also coming to
light that in the form of a police state he has been unlawfully
investigated by officials of the state of Ohio. Please refer to this article:

[Link: [Link: www.columbusdispatch.com...]...]

A quote:

"Vanessa Niekamp said that when she was asked to run a
child-support check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16, she
thought it routine. A supervisor told her the man had contacted
the state agency about his case.

Niekamp didn’t know she just had checked on “Joe the Plumber,”
who was elevated the night before to presidential politics
prominence as Republican John McCain’s example in a debate of an
average American.

The senior manager would not learn about “Joe” for another
week, when she said her boss informed her and directed her to
write an e-mail stating her computer check was a legitimate
inquiry.

The reason Niekamp said she was given for checking if there was a
child-support case on Wurzelbacher does not match the reason
given by the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services."

Quite frankly Senator [] this stinks to high heaven.

You and your party have always said that you stand for the little
guy, this is your chance to prove it so. I demand that an
official investigation of the abuse of state and official power be
undertaken and that those found responsible for this gross and
outrageous abuse of power be appropriately punished. Please do
the right thing here!

America is not a third world police state, the constitution is a
document that protects the rights of the citizen against
unchecked abuse by our government, and that is the root of
what is happening to Joe Wurzelbacher! This cannot stand and I
call upon you to do whatever you can to bring this matter to
justice.

Thank you for your service,
ht

re: #210 Opinionated

It the Obama era, we will spread the wealth, spread personal information, spread Liberal manure. A whole lot of spreading going on.

And it all stinks.

re: #200 buzzsawmonkey

Perhaps when justiceforall has finished wiping himself from his last post, he will provide such examples.

Don't hold yer breath.

Morning, {all y'all}!

re: #163 bellamags

I have a question. Where in the hell did you find the clip art of the disco dudes? That is totally bizarre.

1975 J.C. Penney catalog. I kid you not.

To understand how mindbendingly craptactular the 70's were, consider that you could purchase a fully stocked gay pimp wardrobe from mainstream middlebrow department stores.

In the mid 70s Sears and Penneys catalogs both featured sections on "smoking supplies." Basically bongs and hookahs.

re: #206 Iron Fist

In Soviet Russia hard, cold realityville waffles eat you. He's not ready for prime time. Hell, he shouldn't even be on the show.

In January he becomes god-king in his own mind. And Congress will be in no way willing or able to guide him on a reasonable course. Not that he'd listen, even if they did.

They elected nothing more than a tool to manipulate as needed. That's all. He was bought and paid for about 4 years ago. They had him give a great speech, then told him exactly what he was going to do and how he was going to do it. Then they took care of EVERY negative thing that arose. But, they keep all that stuff in their back pocket if they need to dump him. He could become the ultimate scapegoat just as fast as he became The One.

Is the NY Times running this story?

re: #195 Guanxi88

Yes, but she should think of it as an investment in her future. She's shown she can be counted on to do the right thing by BHO, and this sort of thing has a way of being remembered when folks like him hog-call their followers to the trough of public service.

She'll make back what she lost in short order.

Absolutely. The party will remember her selfless devotion and reward her, in due time, with appointments, speaking engagements, pork and endorsements.

re: #196 stuiec

There hasn't been a single concrete signal from the President-elect that his policies will not implement a rapid return to the policies of 1993-2000 in regards to AQ and islamofascism. In fact, in addition to the apparent rush to return to the Clinton years, there is the hope and change of surrender via the effort to appease our enemies so they like us more.

The only threat the incoming administration apparently will act on is the threat of dissenting points of view and criticism of the administration.

Motivation Schmotivation!

Aside from VERY limited inquiry into an accused's mental capacity and determination of intent to do the act we should never try to "get inside the head" of the accused in determining guilt or innocence. That's the problem with "hate" crimes. If society determines that the intentional doing of an act is a crime we should leave it at that. We should recognize the tragedy of a murderer having a brutal childhood or the anti-social consequences of a child being raised to hate a particular group of people but those kinds of things should not be considerations in reagrd to conviction or punishment - life's a bitch - just ask the guy you murdered!

re: #200 buzzsawmonkey

I believe that there is a vast difference in violating citizens privacy rights, while looking for terrorist perpetrators or simply trying to find some dirt on a plumber (for crying out loud) who happened to have an accidental encounter with 'the one'.

re: #219 Daisy

Is the NY Times running this story?

I think they're too busy trying to run their business to worry about such "trivial" matters.

Kinda of makes you wanna become a lefty with all that reckless power.
Too bad my principals have to get in the way.

re: #155 iowahawk

Shouldn't that be vein curiousity? After all, I mainline your shit as often as possible.

re: #156 bellamags

YOU MUST look at post to ding ratio.

Damn. I suck. :D

re: #169 Athos

More of the double standard. Move along.

Priceless comment!

re: #228 boogberg

Damn. I suck. :D

You mean like 1500 posts to a karma level of 312?

re: #218 father_of_10

They can make 'em and they can break 'em.

re: #200 buzzsawmonkey

Standard MO for the JusticeForAll - a troll-by.

Says a lot for the power of its argument when it can't be bothered to debate.

re: #171 turn

...
Oh, and a month off with no pay, what a friggin joke.

I'd bet she gets back pay after an administrative appeal.

Hell if I'm caught using the company computer to search one nude photo I'd be canned. ...

I'd be canned if I used a company computer to access any file that hasn't been assigned to me. If I used my own computer I'd probably be arrested.

re: #217 iowahawk

1975 J.C. Penney catalog. I kid you not.

To understand how mindbendingly craptactular the 70's were, consider that you could purchase a fully stocked gay pimp wardrobe from mainstream middlebrow department stores.

In the mid 70s Sears and Penneys catalogs both featured sections on "smoking supplies." Basically bongs and hookahs.

My mother sent my brother's fringed leather buckskin jacket to the dry cleaners. It came back with a little baggie attached to the hanger with his beaded hash pipe in it. Apparently, he had left it in the pocket.
:D
Mind you, this was in a town of 2,500 in Northeast Missouri.

re: #193 LindaMarie

Shave your head? None of the Navaho's I know are bald. Not even the elders.

I think my comment got lost with the Navajo thing. I was just referring to new agey stuff in general.

re: #157 Iron Fist

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"

-the wisdom of Rush (the band)

What a joke. I know you've all covered this already, but what do you think the reaction by the media would be if Joe was an Obama supporter/campaigner/whatever?
60 Minutes would be camped outside the State offices, we'd know the names and personal details of everyone who actually conducted the searches and a whole new law would be named after the scandal.

re: #217 iowahawk

Hmm, does that mean the Age of Obama will bring the '70's back to us? Same bad clothes, bad hair, disco music, Carter policies...?

re: #217 iowahawk

1975 J.C. Penney catalog. I kid you not.

To understand how mindbendingly craptactular the 70's were, consider that you could purchase a fully stocked gay pimp wardrobe from mainstream middlebrow department stores.

In the mid 70s Sears and Penneys catalogs both featured sections on "smoking supplies." Basically bongs and hookahs.

no shit.

re: #233 Athos

I held off, but now I've dished out some karmic justice on jfa. The troll.

re: #233 Athos

Standard MO for the JusticeForAll - a troll-by.

Says a lot for the power of its argument when it can't be bothered to debate.

Typical of most liberal thought - intellectually vacant...

re: #117 outsidephilly

Larry Mendte: A Totally Whack Hack Attack

has anyone heard about this TV news anchor hacking into his co-anchor's emails?

re: #228 boogberg

Damn. I suck. :D

I gave you an upding because of your avatar. I read your comment as I got a close up of the pic and it was appropriate! LOL

re: #240 bellamags

Indeed.

Hey all y'all - are we still on topic?

Investigators weren’t able to determine whether the searches were politically motivated, the report said.
...Say WHAT...guess they were just checking these records to see...how good a plumber he is...
/you all know you have to check out these kind of records before you let any plumber work on your plumbing...

re: #239 Athos

Hmm, does that mean the Age of Obama will bring the '70's back to us? Same bad clothes, bad hair, disco music, Carter policies...?

Four years of disco music.
Oh, the pain! ! !

re: #246 lawhawk

More here.

re: #231 father_of_10

You mean like 1500 posts to a karma level of 312?

No. I mean 550/48. Must've been something I said. :D

OT

What's the Google logo suppose to be today? Some British holiday. Looks like a bunch of well dressed chimney sweeps.

(just in case you don't have it bookmarked)
[Link: www.google.com...]

re: #213 stuiec

Why? The election is over, their guy won -- they can now afford to be gracious and appear to have the interests of all Americans (not just moonbats) at heart.

I rarely see the ACLU defend anything but anti American groups/causes or criminals. I was surprised to see them even bother to step forward to defend Joe the Plumber.

re: #249 redstateredneck
Four years of Disco Music? What? Who says?!

re: #250 buzzsawmonkey

Don't forget mirrored balls.

and strobe lights.

re: #246 lawhawk

Indeed.

they are so pretty.

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

If the dry cleaners lose a button off your shirt or jacket, they typically replace it with another.

If the cleaners had lost your brother's hash pipe, they would have had to replace that, too.

Don't know if he had any stash in there or just the pipe. Those old women at the Canton Cleaners may have swiped it.

re: #250 buzzsawmonkey

Don't forget mirrored balls.

and florescent pictures.

re: #233 Athos

Standard MO for the JusticeForAll - a troll-by.

Says a lot for the power of its argument when it can't be bothered to debate.

He probably just ran off to make sure he gets in the front of the line for his "free stuff" from the govt.

Idle speculation and opinion here (what the hell else is coming from me but I digress) BUT...

I am trying to look on this next administration as the equivalent of a live virus vaccine.

Clearly a good portion of the electorate has lost its priorities and sensibilities. Hopefully this will sharpen those attributes.

The only thing is that I imagine that the first trials of the vaccine probably killed a good number of the test subjects before it was perfected.

Well OK. We don't have to be passive test subjects. We can react before its fatal.

re: #230 buzzsawmonkey

yep,
no "wholesale" privacy violations, though there might be actually unpublished "retail" ones, which disturbed only a tiny minority of ROP activists.

re: #234 Son of the Black Dog

What should be so obvious the the IG (if he really wanted to use it) was her continually changing story - she was flat out lying to hide the fact that she did use it for political purposes. It changed from a statement it was basiccally policy to check out someone new in the spotlight to this bullshit statement "my only intent was to fulfill my agency's fiduciary responsibilities to Ohio's families"

re: #253 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter - no it's apparently a celebration of
Renee Magritte's 110th birthday (just put cursor over the logo).
No I don't know who Renee Magritte is.

On topic:

How does this affect the possibility of Joe bringing a civil rights suit against the state of Ohio for invasion of privacy / illegal search, etc.?

I would dearly love to see Joe financially destroy these Orwellian a-holes, and would gladly contribute to any legal effort.

But hey, I'm certain the ACLU is all over this. (/sarc)

re: #97 justiceforall

Let me get this straight: LGF is against the government abusing its authority to probing into the private affairs of every-day citizens?

Abusing its authority?

No agent of Government had any [legal] authority to do what was done to Joe the Plumber.

re: #251 lawhawk

More here.