What's the market doing today?

re: #1 turn

Up and down again, hell when will this ever end.

re: #2 turn

where is everybody?

re: #2 turn

Up and down again, hell when will this ever end.

It took another turn.

re: #1 turn

DOW's down 31.70 to 7520.59, according to [Link: www.foxbusiness.com...] .

Why is the FBI raiding a towing lot in Missouri a story on FOX? What did I miss?

"The quieter you become, the more you can hear."

re: #3 turn

where is everybody?

*waves*

re: #3 turn

where is everybody?

twilite zone?

Listening to Rush. barry obama is voting present.

whew, the lizard nation is still out there.

tomorrow is Victory in Iraq day . . .

re: #7 Killgore Trout

"The quieter you become, the more you can hear."

Being a wallflower in real life, I can vouch for that statement...

Might I suggest some Christmas music?
[Link: www.kosy.com...]
Currently playing, piano version of Oh Christmas Tree

Islamists say they'll fight Somali pirates over Saudi supertanker.

Go barnacles!

EU`s Solana: Obama must focus on Mideast peace and engage Iran more (Reuters)

Why because your so freak en incompetent?

re: #4 re: #12 outsidephilly

tomorrow is Victory in Iraq day . . .

Oh, thanks for the reminder. Gonna put out old glory and crack a cold one for the troops and Zomb.

re: #14 bosforus

I have that station and 100.3 on constantly this time of year. If I don't like the music on one, I switch to the other.

I really like that story!

re: #14 bosforus

Might I suggest some Christmas music?
[Link: www.kosy.com...]
Currently playing, piano version of Oh Christmas Tree

Well then: Achmed Sings Christmas Songs

[Link: www.break.com...]

Hey over 50 points up now, I don't want to be negative but I have a feeling the market will begin to really slide downward toward the bell. Hey 3W you out there and want to chime in?

re: #19 Fat Jolly Penguin

I have that station and 100.3 on constantly this time of year. If I don't like the music on one, I switch to the other.

All I need now is a good snowstorm and I'll be in heaven. I'm thinking about running over to the local thrift store and seeing if I can pick up an old timey radio that I can enjoy this Christmas with.

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Well then: Achmed Sings Christmas Songs

[Link: www.break.com...]

Oh Holy Crap
Silence... night
Jingle Bombs

LOL

Hello Lizards. I am happy to be reporting from The Homestead resort in the snow coated mountains of Virginia.

How is everyone today?

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Oh Holy Crap
Silence... night
Jingle Bombs

LOL

Oh holy crap, I think I blew my foot off

My addition to the zen thread.

/ohm madi padi ohm. . .. . . .

My father said he's "going flying." Part of me wants to go with him. Part of me knows I have no wings. So I don't know either. Take care, Dad.

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Well then: Achmed Sings Christmas Songs

[Link: www.break.com...]

I bookmarked that. I had it last year, but deleted the bookmark after the holidays. That's for bringing that up. Sicko.

re: #1 turn

What's the market doing today?

+35.20

re: #22 turn

Hey over 50 points up now, I don't want to be negative but I have a feeling the market will begin to really slide downward toward the bell. Hey 3W you out there and want to chime in?

How's the beer and alcohol stocks doing? Last I heard they were doing well. Seems all the Obama lemmings want to pass the next 4 years in a drunken haze.

re: #7 Killgore Trout

"The quieter you become, the more you can hear."

"You can observe a lot by watching"
-Yogi Berra

Phone on speaker, waiting for a conference call at 1:30 p.m. The musicak is terrible.

re: #15 debutaunt

Islamists say they'll fight Somali pirates over Saudi supertanker.

Go barnacles!

Memo to Saudi special ops - take the flamethrower.

re: #31 NoGardtheGreat

How's the beer and alcohol stocks doing? Last I heard they were doing well. Seems all the Obama lemmings want to pass the next 4 years in a drunken haze.

...as do the rest of us...

re: #32 CIA Reject

"You can observe a lot by watching"
-Yogi Berra

It just occurred to me that I have grown up my whole life with Yogi, what are people gonna do in the future for wisdom?

re: #35 taxfreekiller

So, who of the Obama team is going to walk point?

McCain?

New York elementary school renamed in honor of Dear Leader

Scientology could learn a thing or two from the Messianic Cult of Obama.

re: #37 Nevergiveup

It just occurred to me that I have grown up my whole life with Yogi, what are people gonna do in the future for wisdom?

Money. It's a lot like cash.

Good afternoon, from the East Coast.

/Warning: Rant

According to a Wells Fargo representative, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have, as of 2 weeks ago, made a deal that forces most rehabbers to work with construction crews from Home Depot and Lowe's. No private contractors, no local hardware stores allowed.

With all of those foreclosed homes out there, many of which will need repairs, wouldn't you just LOVE for the government to FORCE people to use your business?

Our government: killing small business.

Sigh. I just wanna buy a farm.

/Rant off.

Back to work. Have a great weekend, everybody.

Israel To Pay ISM TOOL Brian Avery NIS 600,000

Go to Israel, attack their soldiers, actively work to put innocent civilians in danger, destroy necessary security measures, volunteer to get used as propaganda by the enemy, illicit a response from the IDF after months of treating and actually harming them....COLLECT!

re: #32 CIA Reject

Heh.

Atheist epitaph, "all dressed up and nowhere to go."

re: #37 Nevergiveup

It just occurred to me that I have grown up my whole life with Yogi, what are people gonna do in the future for wisdom?

Fortunately he's written several books.

re: #32 CIA Reject

"You can observe a lot by watching"
-Yogi Berra

"Wherever you go, there you are."
~ Unknown

:P

re: #42 WrathofG-d

Israel To Pay ISM TOOL Brian Avery NIS 600,000

Go to Israel, attack their soldiers, actively work to put innocent civilians in danger, destroy necessary security measures, volunteer to get used as propaganda by the enemy, illicit a response from the IDF after months of treating and actually harming them....COLLECT!

I should add that there are still Jews ethnically cleansed out of Gaza by the Israeli government who have not received a dime.

re: #39 RoughRider

New York elementary school renamed in honor of Dear Leader

Scientology could learn a thing or two from the Messianic Cult of Obama.

Hasn't it been customary in the past to wait until someone has died to offer this kind of honor? I know postage stamps, by law, can only honor dead people. Every time I go to the post office, I stand in line and point to the pictures of the stamps and say...

"I see dead people"

It freaks out the other customers.

re: #47 Miss Trixie

"Wherever you go, there you are."
~ Unknown

:P

I feel more like I do now than I did then.

re: #46 CIA Reject

Fortunately he's written several books.

Yeah, but I bet he never read them!

...and dead Zen masters don't talk.

re: #41 quercus albus

Good afternoon, from the East Coast.

/Warning: Rant

According to a Wells Fargo representative, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have, as of 2 weeks ago, made a deal that forces most rehabbers to work with construction crews from Home Depot and Lowe's. No private contractors, no local hardware stores allowed.

With all of those foreclosed homes out there, many of which will need repairs, wouldn't you just LOVE for the government to FORCE people to use your business?

Our government: killing small business.

Sigh. I just wanna buy a farm.

/Rant off.

Back to work. Have a great weekend, everybody.

What in the world?!

re: #30 midwestgak

+35.20

It's early. Someone will have to stand before the microphone before 4pm to send shivers down the spines of investors. /

It's 2:30 in NY and the Dow is at break even give or take for the day.
LOOK OUT BELOW!

re: #32 CIA Reject

"You can observe a lot by watching"
-Yogi Berra

"Why should people go out and pay money to see bad films when they can stay at home and see bad television for nothing?"
-Samuel Goldwyn

re: #42 WrathofG-d

That doth sucketh mightily.

A nice thank you video to Sarah Palin.

Don't miss the comments, full of gratitude from patriots and rants from Palin Derangement Syndrome afflicted Moonbats.

kansas

re: #47 Miss Trixie

"Wherever you go, there you are."
~ Unknown

:P

I feel more like I do now than I did then.

"If your parents never had children, neither will you."

re: #41 quercus albus

125 posts in more than 4 years and we are supposed to take this at face value? I don't think so.

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

I know postage stamps, by law, can only honor dead people.

That's probably on the agenda too. Repealing that law so all postage stamps may be a fitting homage to His divine presence and loving benevolence.

"Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand."
~Mark Twain

Woohoo! I'm partying now. I"m off a few days ... the Itunes are on loud and the cell phone is off in mid day.

The Game

I'm never going to be famous. My name will never be writ large on the roster of Those Who Do Things. I don't do any thing. Not one single thing. I used to bite my nails, but I don't even do that any more.
-Dorothy Parker

re: #63 Miss Trixie

kansas

"If your parents never had children, neither will you."

Lydia the Tattooed Lady

Posted this earlier, in case you missed it:]

Thought this was a nice way to mend fences with my liberal firends:

No hard feelings dear friends….

The election day is over,

The talking is done.

My party lost,

your party won.

So let us be friends,

Let arguments pass.

I'll hug my elephant,

You kiss your ass.

re: #56 MandyManners

What in the world?!

In the past, foreclosed houses with FMy, FMk, HUD, VA backing, were serviced by multiple small "handy man" firms all across the nation. There was a list of how much the agency would pay for a boarding up or a grass cut or a lock change etc.

And of course, some of this work had to be done on an ongoing basis (such as lawn cutting or snow removal).

This doesn't make sense. I worked as a programmer for one of these firms that "jobbed" out the work to handy men all around the country. I can assure you this is going to cost the taxpayers MORE than it would have if they continued to toss the work to the small contractors and handy men.

re: #71 buzzsawmonkey

A loaded assault weapon or a finely-honed blade, or both, can also be handy, however.

I would disagree with Twain based Buzz's post. People tend to stop laughing when you produce such items.

re: #47 Miss Trixie

Buckaroo Banzai said that

re: #75 Mike in Georgia

Buckaroo Banzai said that

One of the worst movies ever.

re: #72 newsjunkie_ky

Posted this earlier, in case you missed it:]

Thought this was a nice way to mend fences with my liberal firends:

No hard feelings dear friends….

The election day is over,

The talking is done.

My party lost,

your party won.

So let us be friends,

Let arguments pass.

I'll hug my elephant,

You kiss your ass.

ROFL Lulz

Clever!

WaPo editorial this morning about an honor accorded to Bilal Hussein by the CPJ.

Mr. Mwenda's courage is typical of CPJ award winners. Others being honored this year include photographer Bilal Hussein of the Associated Press, whom the U.S. military imprisoned in Iraq for two years without charges; Danish Karokhel and Farida Nekzad, who run a news agency in Afghanistan, one of the world's most dangerous places for reporters, and especially for female reporters such as Ms. Nekzad; Beatrice Mtetwa, a lawyer who has defended journalists against the vicious persecution of President Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe; and Cuban journalist Héctor Maseda Gutiérrez.

(emphasis mine)
No mention about the killings on Haifa Street. No mention of the staged shots.

Is there a Committee to Protect Election Workers? The CPJ, by honoring Hussein is effectively acting as the Committee to Protect Terrorists.

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

Again. Look at the persons profile. 125 posts in more than 4 years and then he just drops this and leaves? Very fishy.

Thanks, Mike.

re: #52 Nevergiveup

Yeah, but I bet he never read them!

LOL!

Well, there's always Oscar Gamble

"People don't think it be like it is, but it do!"

re: #56 MandyManners

Yup. We are trying to buy a bank owned home on several acres. The price is right, even with repairs. We thought it would be easy. Then the loan officer informed us of the changes. Now? Way too many hoops. We will try to jump, but I'm not happy about their demands. The other apparent options are all much more expensive and restrictive.

If someone knows otherwise, let me know! Please!

Grr.

re: #67 Thanos

Woohoo! I'm partying now. I"m off a few days ... the Itunes are on loud and the cell phone is off in mid day.

I've got about 75 minutes to go. Looong week. I'd be working tomorrow except we're upgrading some systems. I'm so looking forward to the Thanksgiving 4-day weekend.

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

In the past, foreclosed houses with FMy, FMk, HUD, VA backing, were serviced by multiple small "handy man" firms all across the nation. There was a list of how much the agency would pay for a boarding up or a grass cut or a lock change etc.

And of course, some of this work had to be done on an ongoing basis (such as lawn cutting or snow removal).

This doesn't make sense. I worked as a programmer for one of these firms that "jobbed" out the work to handy men all around the country. I can assure you this is going to cost the taxpayers MORE than it would have if they continued to toss the work to the small contractors and handy men.

But, is it true? If so, it's not free market capitalism.

re: #71 buzzsawmonkey

A loaded assault weapon or a finely-honed blade, or both, can also be handy, however.

You get more with a kind word and an automatic weapon than you do with just a kind word.

re: #84 quercus albus

Yup. We are trying to buy a bank owned home on several acres. The price is right, even with repairs. We thought it would be easy. Then the loan officer informed us of the changes. Now? Way too many hoops. We will try to jump, but I'm not happy about their demands. The other apparent options are all much more expensive and restrictive.

If someone knows otherwise, let me know! Please!

Grr.

Tell him to show you the law.

re: #36 CIA Reject

...as do the rest of us...

What? And give up our rights without a fight? Not stay clear headed to see the end coming? Not...O ok I'm not much of a freedom fighter, pass the booze and some legalized pot ;-)

re: #83 CIA Reject

LOL!

Well, there's always Oscar Gamble

"People don't think it be like it is, but it do!"

Actually he wasn't a bad ballplayer? Hella of a hairdo?

I've got oil sticker shock. Didn't the peanut oil folks get the memo that oil futures are diving. I can get a barrel of light sweet crude cheaper than I can get 4 gal. of peanut oil.

Gonna be some expensive fried turkeys this year.

Does anyone believe hillary will be sec. of state?

re: #83 CIA Reject

Well, there's always Oscar Gamble

Any relation to Proctor Meyer?

re: #78 taxfreekiller

Shity Bank
$3.41

Open
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Shity Bank Shity Price Shity Loans Shity People Shity Stock Holder

Oh you pretty Shitty Bank Bank,
Shitty Shitty Bank Bank
We love hate you.
And, in
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What we'll do.

re: #76 Hard Right

But you just have to watch it all the way through to really
appreciate how bad it is/was.

American troops in Afghanistan through the eyes of a French OMLT infantryman

"But we live with them and got to know them, and we henceforth know that we have the honor to live with one of the most renowned units of the US Army...

Heavily built, fed at the earliest age with Gatorade, proteins and creatine - they are all heads and shoulders taller than us and their muscles remind us of Rambo. Our frames are amusingly skinny to them - we are wimps, even the strongest of us - and because of that they often mistake us for Afghans...

Honor, motherland - everything here reminds of that : the American flag floating in the wind above the outpost, just like the one on the post parcels. Even if recruits often originate from the hearth of American cities and gang territory, no one here has any goal other than to hold high and proud the star spangled banner...

And they are impressive warriors ! We have not come across bad ones, as strange at it may seem to you when you know how critical French people can be. ...the long hours of watch at the outpost never seem to annoy them in the slightest. On the one square meter wooden tower above the perimeter wall they stand the five consecutive hours in full battle rattle and night vision goggles on top, their sight unmoving in the directions of likely danger. No distractions, no pauses, they are like statues nights and days.

And combat ? If you have seen Rambo you have seen it all - always coming to the rescue when one of our teams gets in trouble, and always in the shortest delay. That is one of their tricks : they switch from T-shirt and sandals to combat ready in three minutes. Arriving in contact with the enemy, the way they fight is simple and disconcerting : they just charge ! They disembark and assault in stride, they bomb first and ask questions later - which cuts any pussyfooting short.

Never mind what the idiotic chattering classes of Europe say about America, the French soldiers who serve along side them have a far better opinion.

Anyone know if the stuff floating around about Micheal Jackson converting to Islam is true?

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

re: #90 Nevergiveup

Actually he wasn't a bad ballplayer? Hella of a hairdo?

Look for the doo to come back into fashion along with all the other nightmarish crap from the 70's.

SHEESH!

Ahhh. I see Steely Dan in the side bar... Pretzel Logic, from which I remember best - Rikki Don't Lose That Number...

It's an open thread, right?

/Harkening back to my return to a surely changed U. S. of A., and my attempt at 'reintegration' into society - so to speak. As I recall, they hated West Coast Hippiedom just about as much as I did.

re: #95 Mike in Georgia

But you just have to watch it all the way through to really
appreciate how bad it is/was.

Watch Robot Jox sober. It will make BB seem like a masterpiece.

re: #92 newsjunkie_ky

yes, some people believe that.

re: #89 NoGardtheGreat

What? And give up our rights without a fight? Not stay clear headed to see the end coming? Not...O ok I'm not much of a freedom fighter, pass the booze and some legalized pot ;-)

Speaking strictly for myself I tend to put up a better fight when I'm somewhat inebriated.

re: #92 newsjunkie_ky

Does anyone believe hillary will be sec. of state?

I'm surprised she's even considering it. Doesn't the FBI run background checks on appointees to the cabinet? Won't she be subject to potentially embarrassing questions about certain incidents in her past? Cattle futures anyone?

Some music to check your/others karma by:

re: #31 NoGardtheGreat

How's the beer and alcohol stocks doing? Last I heard they were doing well. Seems all the Obama lemmings want to pass the next 4 years in a drunken haze.

Back now, munching sandwich. Hey I don't think it's only the Obama lemmings, I'm surely going to drink my share to ease the pain of what is shaping up to be a really f#$%^-up four years. I think your idea of beer stocks is a damn good one.

re: #105 Son of the Black Dog

I'm surprised she's even considering it. Doesn't the FBI run background checks on appointees to the cabinet? Won't she be subject to potentially embarrassing questions about certain incidents in her past? Cattle futures anyone?

Bill's past.

re: #93 gmsc

Any relation to Proctor Meyer?

LOL!

Newsjunkie-ky

I believe Hillery will be Sec of State. There has been so much talk about this that Barry would have real trouble not giving her that job. I just wonder how long she will want to work in this area especially when she gets frustrated not having her way and Billy gets bored tying to be on his best behavior .

Pure black comedy:

U.N. Urges China to Apologize for Tiananmen Massacre
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Yeah, that will happen

re: #97 Nevergiveup

Anyone know if the stuff floating around about Micheal Jackson converting to Islam is true?

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

It's also in The Sun and it seems to be all over the news.

I'd say we give this story a 24-hour wait-and-see.

/Best recent headline that exposes a hoax: "Miley Cyrus Not Dead"

re: #72 newsjunkie_ky

Posted this earlier, in case you missed it:]

Thought this was a nice way to mend fences with my liberal firends:

No hard feelings dear friends….

The election day is over,

The talking is done.

My party lost,

your party won.

So let us be friends,

Let arguments pass.

I'll hug my elephant,

You kiss your my ass.

I know that defeats the purpose, but I like it.

re: #81 Ford_Prefect

Again. Look at the persons profile. 125 posts in more than 4 years and then he just drops this and leaves? Very fishy.

So. I don't post much here either (mostly lurk) and resent the notion that a low post count should somehow imply lack of validity in and of itself.

re: #103 Iron Fist

Silence is golden. That's why they make sub-sonic bullets.

Happiness is a subsonic bullet?

re: #101 ploome hineni

can you believe JOHN FUCKEN KERRY will be head of the Foreign Relations Committee

chosen to communicate with JHENGHISSS KAHN

I missed that one, OMG!

re: #101 ploome hineni

can you believe JOHN FUCKEN KERRY will be head of the Foreign Relations Committee

chosen to communicate with JHENGHISSS KAHN

He can head on into Cambodia for New Years Eve.

From Theo Sparks' blog. I can't link, there's nudie naked ladies there.

Great Lines from and for Governments ...

In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress. - John Adams

If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. - Mark Twain

Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress; but then I repeat myself. - Mark Twain

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - Winston Churchill

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. - G Gordon Liddy

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. - James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. - Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)

Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. - Ronald Reagan (1986)

I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P. J. O'Rourke

In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)

Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! - Pericles (430 B.C.)

No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
- Mark Twain (1866 )

Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it. - Anon

The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. - Ronald Reagan

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill

The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. - Mark Twain

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

There is no distinctly Native American criminal class... save Congress. - Mark Twain

What this country needs are more unemployed politicians. - Edward Langley, Artist (1928 -1995)

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson

Well here is my very old addition to this Eastern Philosophy discussion.

The Tao of Programming

Afghanistan was not invaded

Idiot moonbat "professor" gets bitch slapped by the facts in a succinct letter-to-the-editor. Cut this one out and carry it with you for moonbat intervention. Use as necessary.

Dear Editor - Michael Keefer's letter to the editor ("We mustn't participate in 'criminal follies'," Nov. 19) says "the American invasion of Afghanistan was a direct violation of international law; the ensuing occupation is likewise illegal."

Keefer is, despite being a university professor, singularly ill-informed.

There was no "invasion" of Afghanistan.

Before the fall of Kabul to the insurgent Afghan Northern Alliance in November 2001, and the consequent collapse of the Taliban regime, there were no foreign regular combat formations in Afghanistan. The Northern Alliance did receive air support and assistance from special forces (both U.S. and British); that however is not an invasion.

Substantial foreign ground combat forces -- including Canadian -- only entered the country after the Taliban had been deposed by indigenous Afghan forces.

Heh

re: #105 Son of the Black Dog

I can't believe she would leave the senate for a position that the zero could yank out from under her at any time and for any whim.

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

You're welcome for the karma point but you earned it.

re: #113 Hard Right

Pure black comedy:

U.N. Urges China to Apologize for Tiananmen Massacre
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Yeah, that will happen

Sure glad they took their their own sweet time coming out with that torn from the headlines report.

re: #85 JammieWearingFool

I've got about 75 minutes to go. Looong week. I'd be working tomorrow except we're upgrading some systems. I'm so looking forward to the Thanksgiving 4-day weekend.

I'll probably get called a few times, but they are going to have to be in desperate enough shape to dig up my home number to reach me.

re: #119 ploome hineni

he won;t return my call

Your lucky, lately it seems he doesn't return other people's money?

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

Customary doesn't apply to the Messiah and his worshipful believers.

re: #112 Miss Molly

Newsjunkie-ky

I believe Hillery will be Sec of State. There has been so much talk about this that Barry would have real trouble not giving her that job. I just wonder how long she will want to work in this area especially when she gets frustrated not having her way and Billy gets bored tying to be on his best behavior .

Bill disclosed everything to the transition team to help clear the way for Hillary.
Think about it..Hillary always gone traveling the world..
Bill will not be bored.

re: #93 gmsc

Definitely a wiener.

re: #100 Hard Right

Watch Robot Jox sober. It will make BB seem like a masterpiece.

My god. You mean someone else actually watched Robot Jox? I thought I was the only one.

re: #116 RoughRider

So. I don't post much here either (mostly lurk) and resent the notion that a low post count should somehow imply lack of validity in and of itself.

I would, too. I'd like to see a link to that information, though.

re: #112 Miss Molly
That's another good reason for her to NOT take the job. Also, Rush has been talking about how could she run against him if she is still Sec. of State. I just don't see her taking the job.

re: #72 newsjunkie_ky

Now that is destined for the top ten.

re: #38 Nevergiveup

McCain?

Excellent choice.

re: #125 newsjunkie_ky

It rarely happens that a Secretary of State is fired. If Hilary takes the job it's hers to keep. Frankly, it would be an improvement over the current one.

Madonna got up, stretched. She felt wonderful. After a moments thought she declared:
'I feel like a new man!"

re: #116 RoughRider

So. I don't post much here either (mostly lurk) and resent the notion that a low post count should somehow imply lack of validity in and of itself.

I agree. Post count alone means nothing. If someone wanted to go read all the previous posts, then they might have some data on which some conclusion might be based.

re: #139 Kenneth

As long as she wears pants, it's fine by me. I don't even want to look at those legs.

re: #140 Haverwilde

Madonna got up, stretched. She felt wonderful. After a moments thought she declared:
'I feel like a new man!"

"...and you look like one, too."

re: #136 newsjunkie_ky

That's another good reason for her to NOT take the job. Also, Rush has been talking about how could she run against him if she is still Sec. of State. I just don't see her taking the job.

I think she would be crazy to take the job. Most Sec. of State devolve into oblivion. Foreign Policy is made at the WH. Then State carries it out. She would have to resign from the Senate, and she does serve at the pleasure of the President and can be dismissed. But go ahead Hilliary, take the job, make my day.

re: #144 Iron Fist

Bill's present.

And the old dog's future.

Female Sec State has already been done.

re: #96 Kenneth

American troops in Afghanistan through the eyes of a French OMLT infantryman

Never mind what the idiotic chattering classes of Europe say about America, the French soldiers who serve along side them have a far better opinion.

This was encouraging, but even the french soldiers buy into the European myths like our soldiers originate from gang territories and we bomb first and ask questions later. I call BS on those statements, hell our soldiers are so restrained they are willing to risk their lives preventing civilian casualties.

re: #139 Kenneth

It rarely happens that a Secretary of State is fired. If Hilary takes the job it's hers to keep. Frankly, it would be an improvement over the current one.

Not out right. But send them to Mogadishu enough and they eventually resign.

re: #96 Kenneth

Never mind what the idiotic chattering classes of Europe say about America, the French soldiers who serve along side them have a far better opinion.

It's not just that solider, lest we forget, the current French President ran his campaign on being pro USA and won!

re: #147 TN_Vol

Female Sec State has already been done.

Who did her... Bil Clinton?

re: #97 Nevergiveup

Anyone know if the stuff floating around about Micheal Jackson converting to Islam is true?

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

It's just an excuse to wear a Burka.

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

Who did her... Bil Clinton?

Yeah, like once!

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

Who did her... Bil Clinton?

Too funny!

re: #135 MandyManners

I would, too. I'd like to see a link to that information, though.

Sure. I've got no problem at all questioning the validity of the story itself. We do that here all the time. Keeps us honest! But that can certainly be accomplished without adding "This person doesn't post much, therefore (s)he's full of it." It's a trend I'm noticing more here (although admittedly still not a whole lot). Icamethisclose to downdinging it, but then took a deep breath and removed my finger from the trigger. :)

re:97 Nevergiveup
11/21/08 11:42:46 am reply quote 0

Anyone know if the stuff floating around about Micheal Jackson converting to Islam is true?

At least now he'll be able to bugger little boys without guilt. Assuming he felt guilt...

re: #92 newsjunkie_ky

Does anyone believe hillary will be sec. of state?

let the floating of the balloons commence!

[Link: www.ft.com...]test link

Pay no attention to this. I'm just trying to figure out how to do links.

re: #49 WrathofG-d

I should add that there are still Jews ethnically cleansed out of Gaza by the Israeli government who have not received a dime.

But it's OK because Nodrog said the media announced they would receive buyouts of half a million each.

It is true that for Hillery to be Sec of State she will be at the mercy of Barry removing her when he wants and at some point in time he will want someone else. And, Michelle isn't all that fond of Hillery either. Maybe this is just a way to get rid of both the Clinton's in a few years. After a couple of years Barry can say he wants something "new" or "change" and Hillery won't be able to get her Senate seat back or run against him.

re: #96 Kenneth

American troops in Afghanistan through the eyes of a French OMLT infantryman

Never mind what the idiotic chattering classes of Europe say about America, the French soldiers who serve along side them have a far better opinion.

And as LFG's official Francophile, I can say that a who lot of the French people like Americans. Of course there can be some differences of opinion on politics, but I have never run into a French person who HATED us.

re: #116 RoughRider

So. I don't post much here either (mostly lurk) and resent the notion that a low post count should somehow imply lack of validity in and of itself.

It is customary when throwing out potentially explosive information like you did to provide links if available. Trust but verify is operative here.

Zen is a mound of sand with a hole in it. The tide comes in, washes the mound away, but the hole is still there.

re: #150 NoGardtheGreat

It's not just that solider, lest we forget, the current French President ran his campaign on being pro USA and won!

I never thought I'd see the day where a pro-American candidate is elected president of France and an anti-American candidate is elected President of the United States.

Guess that's change we can believe in.

*spit*

re: #147 TN_Vol

Female Sec State has already been done.

Who ever said Hillary is really female?

re: #126 Iron Fist

You laugh at them as they are running away. it's fun!

I think you are required to laugh maniacally.

re: #128 debutaunt

Sure glad they took their their own sweet time coming out with that torn from the headlines report.

They routed part of an Olympic even thru Tianamin Square. That's their apology...as in middle finger.

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

Who did her... Bil Clinton?

Eleanor Roosevelt's ghost.

Don't look now, but the fight between Mark Cuban and SEC has turned into a soap opera.

The story linked involves the troofer film, Loose Change, an SEC lawyer who was a huge Mavericks fan, and Brian Cuban's (Mark's brother's) blog.

now here is some really silly shite!
idiotic Al gore link of the week

new study suggests the Mayan civilization might have collapsed due to environmental disasters:
"'These models suggest that as ecosystems were destroyed by mismanagement or were transformed by global climatic shifts, the depletion of agricultural and wild foods eventually contributed to the failure of the Maya sociopolitical system,' writes environmental archaeologist Kitty Emery of the Florida Museum of Natural History in the current Human Ecology journal."

Un-freaking real!
and to think this guy was a few stolen votes from being the leader of the free world...
Wow!

re: #134 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My god. You mean someone else actually watched Robot Jox? I thought I was the only one.

Well, I was young and needed the money...Doh! Wrong movie.

I saw it for free...and still felt ripped off.

re: #165 FurryOldGuyJeans

Who ever said Hillary is really female?

I've looked, it's a female.

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

Dingyup for the sheer wit of it.

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

Who did her... Bil Clinton?

The question is, who was more desperate?

re: #161 Walter L. Newton

And as LFG's official Francophile, I can say that a who lot of the French people like Americans. Of course there can be some differences of opinion on politics, but I have never run into a French person who HATED us.

Only the elites in power do that, Walter. Seems to be a genetic characteristic.

re: #158 Hobbes

[Link: www.ft.com...]test link

Pay no attention to this. I'm just trying to figure out how to do links.

Not like that.

re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans

It is customary when throwing out potentially explosive information like you did to provide links if available. Trust but verify is operative here.

He's not the one who posted that assertion.

re: #155 RoughRider

I hear you on that one. I usually let a poster that's made very few posts spout off before I unleash the green smoke and down ding. I will also do a quick check and see what their previous post history is as well. Sometimes you can see trends.

re: #155 RoughRider

Sure. I've got no problem at all questioning the validity of the story itself. We do that here all the time. Keeps us honest! But that can certainly be accomplished without adding "This person doesn't post much, therefore (s)he's full of it." It's a trend I'm noticing more here (although admittedly still not a whole lot). Icamethisclose to downdinging it, but then took a deep breath and removed my finger from the trigger. :)

Why?

re: #168 Ward Cleaver

Don't look now, but the fight between Mark Cuban and SEC has turned into a soap opera.

The story linked involves the troofer film, Loose Change, an SEC lawyer who was a huge Mavericks fan, and Brian Cuban's (Mark's brother's) blog.

Oh, this should be good! Food fight!

FOX is reporting that Hillary will accept Sec. of State.

re: #169 hoffmonster

now here is some really silly shite!
idiotic Al gore link of the week

new study suggests the Mayan civilization might have collapsed due to environmental disasters:
"'These models suggest that as ecosystems were destroyed by mismanagement or were transformed by global climatic shifts, the depletion of agricultural and wild foods eventually contributed to the failure of the Maya sociopolitical system,' writes environmental archaeologist Kitty Emery of the Florida Museum of Natural History in the current Human Ecology journal."

Un-freaking real!
and to think this guy was a few stolen votes from being the leader of the free world...
Wow!

Yea, I guess all that tourism and the spring breaks by the Spanish had nothing to do with it.

re: #148 turn

I don't share your disagreement with that French solder's point of view. He wrote about US troops who come from all over, even from "gang territories". Well, they do. Recruits come from farms cities & suburbs, but they all share a deep patriotism. That's what the writer was saying. He admired that.

As for the "bomb first... no pussyfooting" comment, I think he was envious of that, given the ROE his gov't puts on his comrades.

re: #139 Kenneth

It rarely happens that a Secretary of State is fired. If Hilary takes the job it's hers to keep. Frankly, it would be an improvement over the current one.

I would rather have her as Sec State than Supreme Court Justice.

Then again, she's in her 60's and Obama could very well put in someone in their 40's. That would be a long painful tenure.

re: #117 taxfreekiller So, ummm, what do you do with a leased deer? Is there an annual mileage allowance? How about the buyback in 3 years?

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

I've looked, it's a female.

To know for sure would mean unclothed. I do NOT want to know why you would do such a thing. *URGLE* ;)

re: #6 Nevergiveup

Why is the FBI raiding a towing lot in Missouri a story on FOX? What did I miss?

Perhaps an employee had the nerve to ask Obama a question.

re: #176 Ward Cleaver

Not like that.

What should I have done?

re: #171 Iron Fist

That and a warm gun.

In WA possessions of suppressors is legal.
You just can't use one...

re: #116 RoughRider

So. I don't post much here either (mostly lurk) and resent the notion that a low post count should somehow imply lack of validity in and of itself.

It's not just the low count. It's the fact that he dropped that bomb and then said he was leaving. I just think that is fishy, that's all. At least give us a link or something.

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

I've looked, it's a female.

You sir are a very brave man!

re: #177 MandyManners

He's not the one who posted that assertion.

Then my assertion he did was in error, and I do apologize. The rest is not in error, though.

re: #169 hoffmonster

That's weird, because OLDER studies basically suggested that the Mayan civilization may have collapsed due to environmental problems.

Someone's been copying again.

I have Jared Diamond's Collapse at home. I may have to dig it out.

re: #192 NoGardtheGreat

You sir are a very brave man!

No, just loose!

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

I've looked, it's a female.

Were you the guy that snuck a snook up her snizz?

/

re: #170 Hard Right

I watched it. Thought it was a poor take on Battletech, and Robotech. Some ideas shouldn't be done in live action without the proper CGI being available.

/it was released in 90 right?

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

No, just loose!

Why am I reminded of the "pea" in a spray paint can?

re: #193 FurryOldGuyJeans

Then my assertion he did was in error, and I do apologize. The rest is not in error, though.

It's a pretty strange requirement. It's forcing someone to enrich someone else and mandating the lack of competition. Pretty un-American.

re: #155 RoughRider

Sure. I've got no problem at all questioning the validity of the story itself. We do that here all the time. Keeps us honest! But that can certainly be accomplished without adding "This person doesn't post much, therefore (s)he's full of it." It's a trend I'm noticing more here (although admittedly still not a whole lot). Icamethisclose to downdinging it, but then took a deep breath and removed my finger from the trigger. :)

I haven't posted much here, kinda new, prolly full of it, too. But that doesn't mean what I have to say is dismissed automatically. Don't you want to hear new opinions and ideas,etc.?

re: #99 Cap'n DOC

Ahhh. I see Steely Dan in the side bar... Pretzel Logic, from which I remember best - Rikki Don't Lose That Number...

It's an open thread, right?

/Harkening back to my return to a surely changed U. S. of A., and my attempt at 'reintegration' into society - so to speak. As I recall, they hated West Coast Hippiedom just about as much as I did.

I have been known to beg people to skip that blasted song. It was played until I heard it in my nightmares, and I hate it with a purple passion.

re: #190 jcm

In WA possessions of suppressors is legal.
You just can't use one...

In Texas, I can have switchblade knives. I just can't carry one around. Makes buying one a little iffy since my transporter beam went on the fritz.

re: #157 Eowyn2

I'd believe Barney the Dinosaur would be Secretary of State at this point.

NYT reporting Hillary will shortly accept Sec. State

/Fox news

re: #47 Miss Trixie

"Wherever you go, there you are."
~ Unknown

Hey, that was Buckaroo Banzai! ("Laugha now, monkey boy.")

re: #199 MandyManners

It's a pretty strange requirement. It's forcing someone to enrich someone else and mandating the lack of competition. Pretty un-American.

I would like to see proof positive this is not some urban legend but an official position of Wells Fargo. Hence my request for a link.

re: #169 hoffmonster

Ummm... you mean the Mayans had SUVs and didn't plan ahead with the Kyoto Accords (back then known as the Tabasco Treaty) ///

re: #199 MandyManners

Where is this post everyone is talking about?

re: #202 OldLineTexan

In Texas, I can have switchblade knives. I just can't carry one around. Makes buying one a little iffy since my transporter beam went on the fritz.

I suppose getting caught is the prerequisite, just need to refine the disposal techniques...
/ extreme sarc

re: #120 newsjunkie_ky

I missed that one, OMG!

Rumor going around my local VA hospital, that he's being considered for Secretary of The Department of Veterans Affairs...

This may have been posted already - if so, please accept my apologies but VDH is among the best, isn't he?

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

re: #189 Hobbes

What should I have done?

Just type the title you want for the link into the posting box (or paste it in), highlight that text, click the Link button (the one that looks like two links of a chain), and paste the URL in.

It's Moron Friday on Glen Beck's radio show...

re: #194 OldLineTexan

That's weird, because OLDER studies basically suggested that the Mayan civilization may have collapsed due to environmental problems.

Someone's been copying again.

I have Jared Diamond's Collapse at home. I may have to dig it out.

I'm treating Diamond with extreme caution.

re: #204 wahabicorridor

NYT reporting Hillary will shortly accept Sec. State

/Fox news

She can kiss her hopes of becoming prez in 2012 goodbye.

Steve Kelley cartoon.

re: #171 Iron Fist

That and a warm gun.

Heh.
I get to pull targets this weekend. I like to say to people I'm get shot at for fun.

re: #208 lawhawk

Ummm... you mean the Mayans had SUVs and didn't plan ahead with the Kyoto Accords (back then known as the Tabasco Treaty) ///

Mmmm... Tabasco.

re: #200 VMA211Dan

I haven't posted much here, kinda new, prolly full of it, too. But that doesn't mean what I have to say is dismissed automatically. Don't you want to hear new opinions and ideas,etc.?

Absolutely. And I haven't been here all that long myself. My only point was that in his original post he dropped a rather large bomb and then said:

Back to work. Have a great weekend, everybody.

From somebody that rarely speaks to do that and not give a link or anything just strikes me as odd. Everything he said may well be true, but it just seems suspicious to me.

re: #205 joncelli

Hey, that was Buckaroo Banzai! ("Laugha now, monkey boy.")

Dont laugh or the Blue Blazer Irregulars will be on your case.

re: #76 Hard Right

It helped if you watched it while under the influence of some sort of recreational chemical. (Or so I'm told. ;-))

Hillary Clinton.

Drive-by thought:

"Being a conservative these days is very similar to being a Pittsburgh Pirate fan."- me

BBL

re: #214 Walter L. Newton

It's Moron Friday on Glen Beck's radio show...

What happen to him at CCN? Did FOX just offer more money, or did CNN go completely left?

CHANGE...it just keeps a comin'...

"Obama’s transition team is asking potential appointees detailed questions about gun ownership, and firearms advocates aren’t happy about it.

The National Rifle Association has denounced the move, which has already led one Republican senator to consider legislation aimed at ensuring a president can’t use an applicant’s gun ownership status to deny employment.

It’s just one question on a lengthy personnel form — No. 59 on a 63-question list — but the furor over the query is a vivid reminder of the intensity of support for Second Amendment rights and signals the scrutiny Obama is likely to receive from the ever-vigilant gun lobby.

Obama’s transition team declined to go into detail on why they included the question, suggesting only that it was done to ensure potential appointees were in line with gun laws.

“The intent of the gun question is to determine legal permitting,” said one transition aide.

But even some Democrats and transition experts are baffled by the inclusion of the question.

Tucked in at the end of the questionnaire and listed under “Miscellaneous,” it reads: “Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”

Paul Light, professor of public service at New York University, said there was no such question for potential appointees when President George W. Bush took office in 2000.

“It kind of sticks out there like a sore thumb,” Light said.

He expressed uncertainty over why it was included but surmised it was out of an abundance of caution, a desire to avoid the spectacle of a Cabinet-level or other high-ranking appointee who is discovered to have an unregistered handgun at home.

“It’s the kind of thing that, if dug out, could be an embarrassment to the president-elect,” Light said."

And we know how much The One hates to be embarrassed...

re: #194 OldLineTexan

Hmmm. I've always understood that the reason for their demise was a wide-spread drought. Thus, their primary food crop (corn) and cultivation methodology (irrigation) led to their downfall. Maybe I'm whacked and they were all Gored to death.

re: #159 Alouette

But it's OK because Nodrog said the media announced they would receive buyouts of half a million each.

Don't you mean that it is ok because it is all part of "Sharon's Master Plan To Finally Show The World Who The Phakestinians Really Are, And Resolve The Arab/Israel Conflict By Getting The World Now On Israel's Side"?

It is disgusting. They beat the living daylights out of Jews at Amona with no remorse, yet suck-up an pay out to the ISM. This is the state of the World today...

re: #209 Pvt Bin Jammin

Where is this post everyone is talking about?

Number 41

re: #215 Dianna

I'm treating Diamond with extreme caution.

Oh, I know it's the next thing to pop science. I don't have the necessary background to wade through the peer-level stuff on this topic. But I enjoyed Guns, Germs, and Steel so much I bought this one a while back.

Hannity just announced Clinton has (past tense) accepted the Secretary of State post.

re: #224 NoGardtheGreat

What happen to him at CCN? Did FOX just offer more money, or did CNN go completely left?

$

re: #197 BlueCanuck

I watched it. Thought it was a poor take on Battletech, and Robotech. Some ideas shouldn't be done in live action without the proper CGI being available.

/it was released in 90 right?

Yes. Yet the people who made it are still free while Katie Holmes isn't.

re: #225 jumplandpackrepeat

Let's start the gun ban with POTUS's Secret Service detail...
See what they think then.

re: #184 Kenneth

Maybe I read too much into the gang thing, you're right. And for the record I don't hold any grudges per say about the French, I just have the feeling that many Europeans in general hold negative viewpoints about Americans, many of which simply aren't justified. I'll have to admit I've never even been to Europe, so I could be way off base.

re: #205 joncelli

Hey, that was Buckaroo Banzai! ("Laugha now, monkey boy.")

"Hey man, nice jacket!"

re: #209 Pvt Bin Jammin

Where is this post everyone is talking about?

No. 41.

re: #222 joncelli

It helped if you watched it while under the influence of some sort of recreational chemical. (Or so I'm told. ;-))

Caffeine?
///

re: #215 Dianna

I'm treating Diamond with extreme caution.

The Mayan civilization did not totally collapse in the 9th century. There was still viable Mayan cities right up to the 16th century when the Spanish came.

re: #220 Ford_Prefect

I didn't see the post but earlier I thought I saw he was posting from work. He is a police officer IIRC. Can you tell me where the post is?

re: #229 Ford_Prefect

Thanks!

re: #237 MandyManners

No. 41.

That's right, everyone run out an look at the turd in the middle of the road!
/ ;-P

re: #92 newsjunkie_ky

Does anyone believe hillary will be sec. of state?

hannity said she just accepted.

re: #228 buzzsawmonkey

The Indus Valley civilization centered around the cities of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro supposedly collapsed because they had deforested the area around the cities to make the bricks the cities were built with.

But since little is known about that culture--if I recall correctly, their language has not yet been deciphered--that remains somewhat speculative.

Then, of course, there is that city in the Empty Quarter of Arabia, the name of which escapes me now, that was considered legendary until its location was revealed through satellite photos. Legends said that it had been punished by Allah for its wickedness, Sodom and Gomorrah-style, by collapsing in upon itself. Well, it turned out that the city, considered a fable, not only existed but had in fact collapsed in upon itself; it had been built on some form of vault supports which had given way and the entire town crumbled.

Was that near the camel caravan trails that were found from space?

Reality is so much stranger than fiction, and all legends have a beginning somewhere.

re: #209 Pvt Bin Jammin

Where is this post everyone is talking about?

See No. 84, too.

re: #231 vapig

Hannity just announced Clinton has (past tense) accepted the Secretary of State post.

The only secretary Bill didn't want to have sex with.

re: #213 Ward Cleaver

Just type the title you want for the link into the posting box (or paste it in), highlight that text, click the Link button (the one that looks like two links of a chain), and paste the URL in.

Thanks. I'm a bit nervous about this, so I appreciate your help.

re: #220 Ford_Prefect

Absolutely. And I haven't been here all that long myself. My only point was that in his original post he dropped a rather large bomb and then said:

Back to work. Have a great weekend, everybody.

From somebody that rarely speaks to do that and not give a link or anything just strikes me as odd. Everything he said may well be true, but it just seems suspicious to me.

Then base your skepticism on that, and not on the post count, which means nothing, as I said in #141.

Well this it, the news say's Billary is in.

Gezzz this country is doomed. Wasn't billary and Not-so-bright good friends

re: #22 turn

Hey over 50 points up now, I don't want to be negative but I have a feeling the market will begin to really slide downward toward the bell. Hey 3W you out there and want to chime in?

Could be wrong as usual turn, the market is ramping up before close. Up 103 now.

re: #242 jcm

That's right, everyone run out an look at the turd in the middle of the road!
/ ;-P

There's a turd in the middle of the road?

(Runs to go see. Gets hit by car.)

re: #243 nyc redneck

hannity said she just accepted.

Just received FNC alert saying she has accepted...

re: #224 NoGardtheGreat

What happen to him at CCN? Did FOX just offer more money, or did CNN go completely left?

"Go"? Hell, they done been gone a long time ago.

re: #201 Dianna

They played my kind of music and their outlook was mine. I coulda cared less about the play time that Rikki got - I played everything they came out with w/o discrimination. All-around good music IMHO.

re: #248 Hobbes

Thanks. I'm a bit nervous about this, so I appreciate your help.

No need to worry, just don't Roger the thread.

re: #229 Ford_Prefect

Oops. I thought you were talking about the Parson. I'm not familiar with this poster. Sorry. That's what I get for trying to lurk and work at the same time.

How many Zen Masters does it take to change a lightbulb? Two: One to change it, one not to change it.

re: #239 Walter L. Newton

The Mayan civilization did not totally collapse in the 9th century. There was still viable Mayan cities right up to the 16th century when the Spanish came.

No, the Mayans did not disappear. There is evidence IIRC that the population plummeted and the "empire" aspect was dissolved over (again, from memory) two to three hundred years.

re: #242 jcm

That's right, everyone run out an look at the turd in the middle of the road!
/ ;-P

It's a helluva' thing if it's true.

re: #1 turn

same thing. they r doing bad thanks to Hussein O

re: #246 buzzsawmonkey

I am relieved that HRC accepted Secretary of State. She has a much more practical view of the jihadis than Obama does.

Does anyone think that someone like Kerry--also rumored as a consideration--would have been preferable? Not I.

I agree. But change, this is change. Of course not. I say it over and over here on LFG, this people are beholden to special interest and big money, and nothing is going to change, except who is given our money away.

re: #239 Walter L. Newton

Read somewhere that the Amazon valley was in the process of being terraformed right up to the 16th century. Wish I could remember the link, but there's lots of stuff in our past that we as a race have forgotten, or just pass off as myth.

re: #255 MandyManners

"Go"? Hell, they done been gone a long time ago.

True, but I was equating them to MSNBC, so they still seemed middle by comparison.