Overnight Open Thread

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Open • Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 10:01 pm PST • Views: 160

Lt. Harper: It was a saucer.

Policeman: A flying saucer?

Larry: What makes you say that?

Lt. Harper: You remember the noise we heard the other night?

Larry: We were knocked to the ground, how could I forget?

Lt. Harper: Exactly, but you’re not remembering that sound.

Larry: There you’re wrong, Lieutenant. I’m with the fact the sound is similar, but what about the blinding light?

Lt. Harper: Well haven’t you heard? Many times a saucer hasn’t had a glow, or a light of any kind for that matter.

Larry: That proves it.

Plan 9 from Outer Space

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1 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:04:53pm

Is there anybody out there?

2 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:05:26pm

Now, don't you worry. The saucers are up there. The graveyard is out there. But I'll be locked up safely in there.

3 winston06  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:05:34pm

good night every one

4 Irene NYC  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:05:47pm

Yeah, just trying to figure out the dialogue though. Must be a guy sort of thing.

5 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:06:05pm

Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you, the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony, of the miserable souls, who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places. My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?

6 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:06:34pm

From the tail-end of the previous thread- Not sure if this was posted here, but BOzo's kids will be attending Chelsea Clinton's old school, Sidwell Friends. The previous thread had said they would attending a fundamentalist school.

7 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:07:35pm

Back from a dinner of a 10 oz. Sirloin Steak and Potatoes, just in time for a new open thread and a new episode of Numb3rs!

8 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:07:50pm

I'm muzzled by army brass!

9 pat  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:07:56pm

Obama's selections are interesting. Reveal incredible inadequacy and a tendency for mistake. He has no confidence in himself and well he should not. it is not clear that he is very knowledgeable.

10 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:08:02pm

re: #3 winston06

good night every one

You always come on a fresh thread to say goodnight. This is old Persian custom?

11 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:08:03pm

I don't remember this at all

Outer Limits, yeah

Twilight Zone, sure (Marcia, Marcia, Marcia)

The Day The Earth Stood Still, yup

Plan 9 from Outer Space does not ring a bell

12 LynnfromNZ  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:08:39pm

I can't figure if that movie was intentionally stupid or just accidentally so.

13 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:08:44pm

You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!

14 pat  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:09:04pm

My connection is a bit awkward. Slow and and tangled.

15 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:09:14pm

re: #5 Salem

Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you, the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony, of the miserable souls, who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places. My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?

I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum.

16 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:09:46pm

re: #11 Adrenalyn

I don't remember this at all

Outer Limits, yeah

Twilight Zone, sure (Marcia, Marcia, Marcia)

The Day The Earth Stood Still, yup

Plan 9 from Outer Space does not ring a bell

Be glad.

17 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:09:49pm

Evolution!

18 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:09:56pm

ID!

19 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:10:32pm

Evolution!

20 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:10:38pm

ID!

21 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:11:01pm

Evolution!

22 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:11:08pm

ID!

23 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:11:10pm

re: #16 gmsc

Be glad.

and I never got into the Star Wars and 2001 and Close Encounters fads either

even as a teenager, I was quite the contrarian

24 Opilio  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:11:11pm

Now toddle off and fly your flying machine. . .

25 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:11:53pm

And what's even stranger is that a remake is the works!

26 Hobbes  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:12:21pm

I can just imagine where this tread will go. Have fun lizards. Gotta go see what that bright light is outside! Good Night.

27 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:12:26pm

re: #9 pat

Obama's selections are interesting. Reveal incredible inadequacy and a tendency for mistake. He has no confidence in himself and well he should not. it is not clear that he is very knowledgeable.

Honestly, I find it reassuring. He just wants to quarterback a seasoned team.

28 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:12:54pm

Hugh Hewitt just said "laxadaisically"...UGGHHH!

29 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:12:55pm

re: #26 Hobbes

I can just imagine where this tread will go. Have fun lizards. Gotta go see what that bright light is outside! Good Night.

Do you turn into a stuffed tiger now?

30 Bob Dillon  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:13:07pm

re: #9 pat

Obama's selections are interesting. Reveal incredible inadequacy and a tendency for mistake. He has no confidence in himself and well he should not. it is not clear that he is very knowledgeable.

Woah - you must of missed the interview when asked if he ever had any doubts - "Never" was his response ...

31 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:13:23pm

re: #25 stuiec

And what's even stranger is that a remake is the works!

I am still waiting for a remake/movie version
of F Troop

Gilbert Gottfried could be Corporal Agarn

Jenna Jameson could be wranger Jane

32 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:13:34pm

re: #11 Adrenalyn

I don't remember this at all

Outer Limits, yeah

Twilight Zone, sure (Marcia, Marcia, Marcia)

The Day The Earth Stood Still, yup

Plan 9 from Outer Space does not ring a bell

When I lived in Northern California, there used to be a channel that would show Brady Bunch re-runs at 10 and 10:30, followed by Twilight Zone re-runs at 11 and 11:30. They had one ad advertising their late night line-up that ended, "...that's the Brady Bunch at 10 and 10:30" and you hear Jan saying "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!", followed by, "...and the Twilight Zone at 10 and 10:30", and you'd hear the mannequins saying "Marcia. Marcia! Marcia."

I always thought it was funny.

33 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:13:36pm

re: #4 Irene NYC

Yeah, just trying to figure out the dialogue though. Must be a guy sort of thing.

Do not attempt to figure out any aspect of Plan 9 from Outer Space. You run the risk of permanent mental damage -- the kind that Ed Wood suffered and that resulted in Plan 9 in the first place.

34 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:13:37pm

re: #28 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hugh Hewitt just said "laxadaisically"...UGGHHH!

He said what laxadaisically?

35 Opilio  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:13:45pm

My nomination for the most non-PC line in the movie:

In my land, women are for advancing the race, not for fighting man's battles.
36 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:14:40pm

re: #31 Adrenalyn

I am still waiting for a remake/movie version
of F Troop

Gilbert Gottfried could be Corporal Agarn

Jenna Jameson could be wranger Jane

You are either a very sick person or a Hollywood studio executive.

Either way, I like you.

37 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:14:48pm

re: #27 Moe Katz

Honestly, I find it reassuring. He just wants to quarterback a seasoned team.

Disagree Moe, Hillary as SoS? What foreign policy experience does she have? He has none, and neither does she.

38 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:14:52pm

re: #31 Adrenalyn

I am still waiting for a remake/movie version
of F Troop

Gilbert Gottfried could be Corporal Agarn

Jenna Jameson could be wranger Jane

Wrangler Jane was my first crush.

39 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:14:54pm

re: #811 Cognito

I have not read the past 4 or 5 threads so I did not see that you are back...is that you? And if it is I welcome you. (From Previous thread)

- so let me say again welcome back! There is a merciful G-d at LGF!

40 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:15:01pm

Ma always said, don't play ball in the house.

41 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:15:09pm

re: #32 gmsc

When I lived in Northern California, there used to be a channel that would show Brady Bunch re-runs at 10 and 10:30, followed by Twilight Zone re-runs at 11 and 11:30. They had one ad advertising their late night line-up that ended, "...that's the Brady Bunch at 10 and 10:30" and you hear Jan saying "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!", followed by, "...and the Twilight Zone at 10 and 10:30", and you'd hear the mannequins saying "Marcia. Marcia! Marcia."

I always thought it was funny.


kudos for you for
A) living in Norcal
B) remembering the dept store marcia episode

42 Cognito  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:17:14pm

re: #39 wright1

'tis me, thanks.

43 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:17:29pm

re: #32 gmsc

One of the all time best Twilight Zones, with the exceptions of the Robert Redford episode or the William Shatner one - both beyond excellent!

44 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:17:35pm

re: #37 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Disagree Moe, Hillary as SoS? What foreign policy experience does she have? He has none, and neither does she.

I just think she's smart enough and politically sophisticated enough to get the hang of it quickly. What experience did Colon Bowell have?

45 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:18:22pm

Get out of here Finchley.

46 jcm  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:18:24pm

Dash cam video of the police shooting of Bill Gwatney's murderer.

*you don't see him get shot, he is out of view*

47 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:18:42pm

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

He said what laxadaisically?

Sounds like being lackadaisical after taking laxatives. Bad idea.

48 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:19:15pm

re: #42 Cognito


Cool - I put in a good word for you - don't know how much clout I have but I always liked you comments - albeit, cantankerous and caustic but from the heart (in my view)...

49 Steffan  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:19:16pm

re: #9 pat

Obama's selections are interesting. Reveal incredible inadequacy and a tendency for mistake. He has no confidence in himself and well he should not. it is not clear that he is very knowledgeable.

Considering that these are the same Clintonites that he was so snarky about during the primaries...

Kinda makes me think Bubba sold him a bridge.

The Kos Kidz and DUmmies, not to mention Firedoglake, are seething.

Heh.

50 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:19:51pm

re: #36 stuiec

You are either a very sick person or a Hollywood studio executive.

Either way, I like you.

I think the sick person fits me more
I earned the nic that I use, from childhood friends
for my erratic nature and predilection towards extreme behavior
and fast pace I keep upon myself

but I had dreams of entertainment work until I started working with musicians and the criminals who abuse them

51 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:20:15pm

re: #41 Adrenalyn

kudos for you for
A) living in Norcal
B) remembering the dept store marcia episode

When it comes to Twilight Zone, I seem to remember things that no one else does.

During a recent trivia night, the host asked how many people from the regular cast of the original Star Trek appeared in the original Twilight Zone. Even a few hardened Twilight Zone fans looked at me funny when I mentioned George Takei. He was on a controversial episode that was never included in the syndication packages.

52 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:20:18pm

re: #38 little boomer

Wrangler Jane was my first crush.

what, no Ellie Mae ?

53 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:21:10pm

re: #43 wright1

One of the all time best Twilight Zones, with the exceptions of the Robert Redford episode or the William Shatner one - both beyond excellent!

Which William Shatner one? I assume you're talking about "Nightmare at 30,000 Feet", with the gremlin on the wing, but he was also in "Nick of Time".

54 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:21:19pm

re: #52 Adrenalyn

What about the Petticoat Junction girls?

55 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:21:41pm

re: #51 gmsc

When it comes to Twilight Zone, I seem to remember things that no one else does.

During a recent trivia night, the host asked how many people from the regular cast of the original Star Trek appeared in the original Twilight Zone. Even a few hardened Twilight Zone fans looked at me funny when I mentioned George Takei. He was on a controversial episode that was never included in the syndication packages.

you are indeed sick as me
that is about the first name that comes to mind
but even Nimoy appeared on it
and a ton of other soon-to-be-stars

even I had a bit part once on Captain Satellite

56 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:22:06pm

re: #54 Tarkus289

What about the Petticoat Junction girls?

oh shoot...talk about hot
you win
they were the hottest

57 little boomer  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:22:19pm

re: #52 Adrenalyn

Only in retrospect.

58 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:22:20pm

Evening, lizards. I see I made it in time for the overnight thread (not sure I posted on much else this week).

59 Steffan  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:22:47pm

re: #54 Tarkus289

What about the Petticoat Junction girls?

There's also Bobby Sherman's love interest on "Here Come the Brides."

60 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:23:34pm

re: #48 wright1

I don't think Cog liked my welcome back gift.

61 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:23:49pm

re: #53 gmsc

Which William Shatner one? I assume you're talking about "Nightmare at 30,000 Feet", with the gremlin on the wing, but he was also in "Nick of Time".

On the wing of course! BTW, The Robert Redford one, Redford is DEATH, trying to get in the door on a cold winter night of an old woman - I cannot exclaim how piniest it was enough - I am not a fan of RR on his politics, but he can act!

62 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:24:36pm

Does anyone remember Greg Brady's girlfriend Rachel?

63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:24:50pm

re: #44 Moe Katz

I just think she's smart enough and politically sophisticated enough to get the hang of it quickly. What experience did Colon Bowell have?

He served under Cheney when Cheney was SecDef under Bush 41, during the start-up to Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm, going around the world building the coalition to remove Saddam from Kuwait, and then was Bush 41's National Security Advisor.

64 Killian Bundy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:25:58pm

Soros-Funded Democratic Idea Factory Becomes Obama Policy Font

Thanks in part to funding from benefactors such as billionaire George Soros, the Center for American Progress has become in just five years an intellectual wellspring for Democratic policy proposals, including many that are shaping the agenda of the new Obama administration.

...

CAP's president and founder, John Podesta, 59, former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, is one of three people running the transition team for president-elect Barack Obama, 47. A squadron of CAP experts is working with them.

Scared yet? Get a load of this.

Clinton aide slams Pentagon's UFO secrecy

Podesta was one of numerous political and media heavyweights on hand in Washington, D.C., to announce a new group to gain access to secret government records about UFOs.

Specifically, the Coalition for Freedom of Information (CFI) is pressing the Air Force for documents involving Project Moon Dust and Operation Blue Fly, clandestine operations reported to have existed decades ago to investigate UFOs and retrieve objects of unknown origins.

Coalition for Freedom of Information

/yes folks, be afraid, be very afraid, Coast to Coast has now penetrated the inner circle of the White House

65 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:26:03pm

re: #45 Tarkus289

Get out of here Finchley.

That electric razor scene has to be among the most memorable scenes in Twilight Zone history!

Does anyone else remember the episode with the guy who make anything or any kind of person appear just by talking into his tape recorder, and could get rid of them by burning the segment of tape they were described on?

I love the ending, where Rod Serling makes his first on-camera appearance and says, "We hope you enjoyed tonight's presentation. At the same time, we want you to realize that such ridiculous nonsense..."

At that point, the character interrupts Rod, saying, "Rod, you shouldn't say such things as 'ridiculous' and 'nonsense'." He then grabs an envelope full of recording tape marked "Rod Serling", throws it into the fire. Just before fading into nothing, Rod looks into the camera and says, "Oh, well, that's the way it goes."

66 Steffan  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:26:06pm

re: #61 wright1

On the wing of course! BTW, The Robert Redford one, Redford is DEATH, trying to get in the door on a cold winter night of an old woman - I cannot exclaim how piniest it was enough - I am not a fan of RR on his politics, but he can act!

I have to agree. His politics suck and give change, but he was brilliant in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" and "Three Days of the Condor." I don't recall seeing many of his other films.

67 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:26:07pm

re: #60 Sharmuta

Nice sense of humor though, a bit harsh though - I suspect some penance is in order but I think some act of humility might suffice...

68 Emperor Norton  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:26:31pm

As for The Twilight Zone, give me the one with Burgess Meredith with all those books to read, or the one with Peter Fonda as the barber.

69 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:26:53pm

re: #62 Tarkus289

Does anyone remember Greg Brady's girlfriend Rachel?

See now we know you had way too much time on your hands growing up.

70 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:27:14pm

re: #62 Tarkus289

Does anyone remember Greg Brady's girlfriend Rachel?

Isn't she the one played by Sherwood Schwarz's daughter?

71 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:27:17pm

re: #62 Tarkus289

Does anyone remember Greg Brady's girlfriend Rachel?

Yeah but he dumped Rachel when he stole their rival school's goat and hid it in his bedroom.

72 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:27:22pm

re: #65 gmsc

Very cool.

73 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:28:26pm

Open threads rule.

74 Nightwatch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:28:54pm

Not gonna blink, not gonna raise your taxes, just gonna think
about hairy backass

Anyone want an orange?

75 Cognito  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:28:58pm

re: #48 wright1

Cool - I put in a good word for you - don't know how much clout I have but I always liked you comments - albeit, cantankerous and caustic but from the heart (in my view)...

I realized recently that my biggest mistake here is viewing the whole blog and its comments as one voice. It's not. There are a few truculent characters among a larger number of regular, nice folks. In response to the nastier comments I've tended to puff up like a porcupine, instead of just letting them go.

All that to say: I'm really not that caustic. I'm just... puffy.

76 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:29:44pm

Good night y'all.

77 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:29:48pm

Plan 9 from Outer Space, I actually have that on DVD. Came with Destroy All Humans!, IIRC.

78 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:30:19pm

re: #68 Emperor Norton

As for The Twilight Zone, give me the one with Burgess Meredith with all those books to read, or the one with Peter Fonda as the barber.

A classic! How about the giant with the little people who were living in a world of their own in a land the size of a a tiny speck of earth?

79 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:30:24pm

Crush Kill Destroy

80 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:31:20pm

re: #78 wright1

Or the figurines in the Salvation Army kettle.

81 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:32:28pm

I hope my #79 did not kill the thread.

82 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:33:00pm

re: #68 Emperor Norton

As for The Twilight Zone, give me the one with Burgess Meredith with all those books to read, or the one with Peter Fonda as the barber.

Ever see the Futurama parody, as a "Scary Door" episode?

Announcer: You are entering the vicinity of an area adjacent to a location. The kind of place where there might be a monster, or some kind of weird mirror. These are just examples; it could also be something much better. Prepare to enter: The Scary Door.

[Scene: In a desolated world, a man with glasses walks through a library that was somehow spared from destruction.]

Announcer: As per your request, please find enclosed the last man on Earth.

Man: Finally, solitude. I can read books for all eternity!

[He drops his glasses]

Man: It's not fair... [panicked] it's not fair! [calmer] Wait, my eyes aren't that bad; I can still read the large-print books.

[As he reaches for a book, his eyes fall out]

Man: [hysterical] It's not f-... [calmer] Well, lucky I know how to read Braille.

[His hands fall off. He screams, and then his tongue falls out. Then his head falls off.]

Man: Hey, look at that weird mirror...

83 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:33:13pm

re: #75 Cognito

I realized recently that my biggest mistake here is viewing the whole blog and its comments as one voice. It's not. There are a few truculent characters among a larger number of regular, nice folks. In response to the nastier comments I've tended to puff up like a porcupine, instead of just letting them go.

All that to say: I'm really not that caustic. I'm just... puffy.

I went through that phase too.

84 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:33:26pm

Maybe, I am in the Twilight Zone, "The Empty Thread"

85 Bob Dillon  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:33:59pm

re: #67 wright1

Nice sense of humor though, a bit harsh though - I suspect some penance is in order but I think some act of humility might suffice...

On who's side?

86 esch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:34:03pm

My fave TZ has to be the old lady being called over and over on the stormy night. Finally turns out the phone line was knocked down on her husband's grave. Saw this at age 12 and scared the living bejeezus out of me.

87 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:34:32pm

re: #63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He served under Cheney when Cheney was SecDef under Bush 41, during the start-up to Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm, going around the world building the coalition to remove Saddam from Kuwait, and then was Bush 41's National Security Advisor.

Oh, right. You have a point. But I think she'll be okay, just based on being Billy Jeff's better half for the 8 years of his presidensity.

88 Nightwatch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:34:53pm

re: #60 Sharmuta


Hey, what is your field of employ without details, (please)?
Are u a tech-y? What or who pays you to stay up so late posting?
Bored mines want to know... oh I ment minds...sorry..."STINKY I MENT MINDS!"

Want an orange Shamu?

89 jcm  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:35:51pm

re: #75 Cognito

I realized recently that my biggest mistake here is viewing the whole blog and its comments as one voice. It's not. There are a few truculent characters among a larger number of regular, nice folks. In response to the nastier comments I've tended to puff up like a porcupine, instead of just letting them go.

All that to say: I'm really not that caustic. I'm just... puffy.

In that case you need a new avatar...

90 Steffan  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:36:52pm

re: #63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He served under Cheney when Cheney was SecDef under Bush 41, during the start-up to Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm, going around the world building the coalition to remove Saddam from Kuwait, and then was Bush 41's National Security Advisor.

He was chairman of the JCS and retired from the military either later that year or early the next. His retirement ceremony was televised. The one thing I remember from it is the band playing "Scotland the Brave" without bagpipes.

I was of the opinion at the time that Schwartzkopf should have gotten a fifth star... after all, his troops steamrolled the fourth largest army in the world in about three days. I think the last American general to win so decisively in such a short time before that was one Robert Edward Lee at a place called Chancellorsville.

I seriously wish that the political end of DS hadn't fallen apart.

91 Desert Dog  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:37:09pm

re: #75 Cognito

I realized recently that my biggest mistake here is viewing the whole blog and its comments as one voice. It's not. There are a few truculent characters among a larger number of regular, nice folks. In response to the nastier comments I've tended to puff up like a porcupine, instead of just letting them go.


re: #83 Moe Katz

I went through that phase too.

Oh yea?!? You can BOTH FOAD then...(JUST KIDDING!)

92 Cognito  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:37:15pm

re: #83 Moe Katz

I went through that phase too.

It's an odd thing. I tend to view the whole thing as a conversation, like we might all have sitting around in my living room. So when someone pops up with "Go #&%$@ a wallaby, you #%$#," it leaves me off balance. Best to just move on, I guess.

93 wright1  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:37:22pm

re: #75 Cognito

I realized recently that my biggest mistake here is viewing the whole blog and its comments as one voice. It's not. There are a few truculent characters among a larger number of regular, nice folks. In response to the nastier comments I've tended to puff up like a porcupine, instead of just letting them go.

All that to say: I'm really not that caustic. I'm just... puffy.


Listen, I get my share of grief, I am a pretty far-right conservative who is loyal to my Faith; I have had my bouts with Sal & others who are not believers and I have tried to stand toe to toe on traditional values issues and culture of life issues, because it is what I truly believe. I have found that the key is to make a cogent, reasoned argument for your position. I may get dinged down, much to my chagrin, but there is tolerance for my views. As a devout Catholic, I hope I add something here worthwhile. But the key is being sincere and genuine in your arguments. I happen to like your posts because you are a contrarian. But even a contrarian can lose efficacy if he is going through the motions to be contrary - arguments obviously need to be substantive...

94 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:37:54pm

re: #86 esch

My fave TZ has to be the old lady being called over and over on the stormy night. Finally turns out the phone line was knocked down on her husband's grave. Saw this at age 12 and scared the living bejeezus out of me.

My all time favorite is "Five Characters In Search of an Exit", the one where the army major, the bagpiper, the clown, the hobo and the ballerina are all in a doorless, circular room together, with no knowledge of who they are or how they got there.

/Full free Twilight Zone episodes

95 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:38:30pm

re: #86 esch

I used to watch scary stuff late at night in the TV room, which was in the front corner of a big dark house, and when I was done, I would run, in the dark for the stairs, One night I tripped and hit my knee on the bottom step,
it was the first time I saw stars.

96 Desert Dog  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:39:14pm

re: #94 gmsc

My all time favorite is "Five Characters In Search of an Exit", the one where the army major, the bagpiper, the clown, the hobo and the ballerina are all in a doorless, circular room together, with no knowledge of who they are or how they got there.

/Full free Twilight Zone episodes

To Serve Man was a great one too!

97 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:40:22pm

re: #55 Adrenalyn

you are indeed sick as me
that is about the first name that comes to mind
but even Nimoy appeared on it
and a ton of other soon-to-be-stars

even I had a bit part once on Captain Satellite

Captain Satellite!

Next you'll be telling us about The Charlie and Humphrey Goodtime Hour!

98 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:40:23pm

Oooh - here's the TZ episode "The Hunt" - where an old country man and his dog die while chasing a raccoon, and journey to heaven together.

Good dog!
;)

99 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:41:43pm

re: #68 Emperor Norton

As for The Twilight Zone, give me the one with Burgess Meredith with all those books to read, or the one with Peter Fonda as the barber.

The Burgess Meredith episode, "Time Enough At Last," was voted the freakiest episode of TZ a couple years ago. And I agree.

"Night of the Meek" brings me to tears every time I watch it.

I've never seen "The Encounter".

100 tommygum  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:41:51pm

re: #38 little boomer

Wrangler Jane was my first crush.

Sky King's niece, Penny.

101 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:41:57pm

Anybody every used to watch Tales from the Darkside?

Some were quite lame...but others...kee ripes.

102 Killian Bundy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:42:07pm

re: #87 Moe Katz

You've been a naughty boy.

/it's not nice to make fun of Salmantis, who doesn't have anything remotely resembling a degree in anything resembling science

103 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:42:08pm

re: #96 Desert Dog

To Serve Man was a great one too!

"'To Serve Man' . . . It's a cookbook!"

Futurama likes to parody the Twilight Zone a lot, and not just with their "Scary Door" parodies. There's one episode in which Bender (the robot) is preparing dinner for everyone else, and his apron reads, "To Serve Man".

104 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:42:32pm

re: #75 Cognito

All that to say: I'm really not that caustic. I'm just... puffy.

Don't forget vapid and self-absorbed.

105 Desert Dog  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:42:48pm

re: #101 Oh no...Sand People!

They were great...the Crypt Keeper was the best!

106 esch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:43:12pm

re: #95 Tarkus289

The first time I saw Night of the Living Dead as a kid, my uncle (only a couple years older) was watching me, so it was only me and him out in this big house in the country.

We ended up on the roof.

107 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:43:20pm

re: #92 Cognito

It's an odd thing. I tend to view the whole thing as a conversation, like we might all have sitting around in my living room. So when someone pops up with "Go #&%$@ a wallaby, you #%$#," it leaves me off balance. Best to just move on, I guess.

It helped me to study the actual dynamics, like a microsociologist would.

108 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:43:43pm

I think we are it. Everything else in space is a desert.
Just my 2c.

109 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:43:52pm

re: #96 Desert Dog

To Serve Man was a great one too!

It's futile to pick the best Twilight Zone episode -- too many superlative entries.

One of my many favorites was the one with Agnes Moorehead as the lonesome backwoods woman in the cabin beseiged by weird little robots and spacemen. Not a word of dialogue until the end, when the spacemen radio home...

110 Nightwatch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:44:19pm

re: #75 Cognito


Try this one, Man walks into triage desk at an E.R and states "I think I'm having a heart attack ." Then drops dead, And even with the best efforts of half the staff on duty at a major Metropolitan E.R he stays dead...what does that say about the current financial market status?

Should I shift my portfolio into Chi-Com yen?


Just asking...

111 esch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:44:26pm

re: #103 gmsc

There's one episode in which Bender (the robot) is preparing dinner for everyone else, and his apron reads, "To Serve Man".

Saw that and almost pissed myself laughing. My wife too.

112 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:44:29pm

re: #99 victor_yugo

The Burgess Meredith episode, "Time Enough At Last," was voted the freakiest episode of TZ a couple years ago. And I agree.

"Night of the Meek" brings me to tears every time I watch it.

I've never seen "The Encounter".

That's the one I was talking about earlier with George Takei, that was never included in syndication packages. It also starred Neville Brand, who was a geniune WWII her. Here's the details about "The Encounter".

113 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:44:30pm

re: #105 Desert Dog

They were great...the Crypt Keeper was the best!

That was "Tales from the Crypt" from HBO.

114 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:44:39pm

re: #106 esch

I would have gone on the roof too, but I would have had to through the attic, no way.

115 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:44:50pm

re: #105 Desert Dog

They were great...the Crypt Keeper was the best!

I can't even remember the name of the episode, but this 'thing' that hides in a closet in this girls room... She leans down off her bed and stands up and walks away and this white clawed hand looking thing reaches out and barely misses...I was officially freaked out and made extra large steps from my bed whenever I woke up ever since...

116 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:45:10pm

re: #102 Killian Bundy

You've been a naughty boy.

/it's not nice to make fun of Salmantis, who doesn't have anything remotely resembling a degree in anything resembling science

Now, now, he does have an interdisciplinary master's degree in philosophy of science. He talketh the talk yet walketh not the walk.

117 jcm  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:45:14pm

re: #108 rawmuse

I think we are it. Everything else in space is a desert.
Just my 2c.

If you were a highly advance civilization capable of interstellar travel, and you came across us, would you hang around?

I wouldn't.

118 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:45:46pm

re: #112 gmsc

That's the one I was talking about earlier with George Takei, that was never included in syndication packages. It also starred Neville Brand, who was a geniune WWII hero. Here's the details about "The Encounter".

PIMF

119 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:45:50pm

re: #105 Desert Dog

They were great...the Crypt Keeper was the best!

Are you sure that wasn't Sandra Bernhardt?

120 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:47:20pm

re: #91 Desert Dog

Oh yea?!? You can BOTH FOAD then...(JUST KIDDING!)

I FO'ed but I didn't die. Now what?

121 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:47:58pm

re: #117 jcm

If you were a highly advance civilization capable of interstellar travel, and you came across us, would you hang around?

I wouldn't.

"The best proof of extraterrestrial intelligence is that it has not attempted to contact us."

122 Desert Dog  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:48:04pm

re: #119 Fenway_Nation

Are you sure that wasn't Sandra Bernhardt?

Now, Now, no need to insult the poor guy, after all, he's already dead..

123 esch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:48:38pm

re: #115 Oh no...Sand People!

I can't even remember the name of the episode, but this 'thing' that hides in a closet in this girls room... She leans down off her bed and stands up and walks away and this white clawed hand looking thing reaches out and barely misses...I was officially freaked out and made extra large steps from my bed whenever I woke up ever since...

Heh hear that. Between NOTLD, Ghost Story, and The Fog, I had serious 'issues' when I was younger. Amityville probably scarred me the most, though. Gives me the chills to this day. And I STILL hate big dolls. Creepy.

124 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:48:55pm

My fave TZ episodes "One For the Angels" and "To Serve Man".

125 Killian Bundy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:49:00pm

Twilight Zone: To Serve Man

/Omama foreshadowing

126 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:49:38pm

re: #101 Oh no...Sand People!

Anybody every used to watch Tales from the Darkside?

Some were quite lame...but others...kee ripes.

The one with the mischievous little "girl" -- the daughter that they kept out of sight -- scared the hell out of me.

127 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:50:22pm

re: #117 jcm

If you were a highly advance civilization capable of interstellar travel, and you came across us, would you hang around?

I wouldn't.

I would probably take some women captives, purely for research purposes, you know. I have a short list...

128 Nightwatch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:50:32pm

re: #121 victor_yugo


Bitter you are, so as it is, so has it was. Much work with you, much work.

129 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:50:45pm

re: #123 esch


I have some librarians in the family, so it was mostly Stephen King and Dean Koontz books when I was younger.

130 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:50:53pm

My favorite episode of the NEW Twilight Zone is "A Matter of Minutes":

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

My other favorite of the New Twilight Zone is "Monsters!":

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

131 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:51:04pm

re: #123 esch

Heh hear that. Between NOTLD, Ghost Story, and The Fog, I had serious 'issues' when I was younger. Amityville probably scarred me the most, though. Gives me the chills to this day. And I STILL hate big dolls. Creepy.

"My name is Talky Tina... and I don't like you."

132 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:51:16pm

I guess we got a lot out of 60s and 70s TV, got aroused by the girls in the daytime, and the shit scared out of us at night. And then Don Kirshners Rock Concert.

Soup to Nuts.

133 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:51:36pm

You know you're a Twilight Zone fanboi when you sit at a TZ marathon with your laptop and a cell-phone Internet connection, looking up each episode on Wikipedia as it comes on TV.

/guilty as charged

134 Nightwatch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:51:39pm

re: #127 rawmuse


Orange?

135 esch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:52:06pm

re: #129 Fenway_Nation

Some great stuff. I was really surprised by how much I liked 'IT'. I assumed I'd hate it.

136 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:54:38pm

"The Last Night of a Jockey" with Mickey Rooney.

That one was like a punch in the gut.

137 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:55:01pm

Well, must get to my weekend. Later all.

138 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:55:02pm

re: #133 victor_yugo

You know you're a Twilight Zone fanboi when you sit at a TZ marathon with your laptop and a cell-phone Internet connection, looking up each episode on Wikipedia as it comes on TV.

/guilty as charged

Nah - you know when you're a Twilight Zone fanboi when you're watching a TZ marathon and you don't need to look anything up!

139 Desert Dog  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:55:18pm

re: #135 esch

The Talisman was good too...a long book
The Stand, of course

And, for those of you that have only seen the movie, I recommend reading The Shining...different than the movie

140 Nightwatch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:55:39pm

Welll, so much fun as to drain me flame


night to the liz...erds

141 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:55:40pm

re: #124 rawmuse

My fave TZ episodes "One For the Angels" and "To Serve Man".

"What You Need" - which Stephen King ripped off to create "Needful Things."

142 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:56:03pm

Jack Klugman's TZ episodes were also good, "A Passage for Trumpet" and "In Praise of Pip".

143 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:56:33pm

"Eye of the Beholder" made me think. A lot.

144 Killian Bundy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:56:45pm
145 Steffan  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:56:55pm

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

There were two movies on late-night TV that I saw several times... I only want a copy of one of them.

The one I want is "Pop Gear," an early-MTV-style documentary on the 1964 British Invasion, made in 1965. It has the first color footage of the Beatles, plus a number of other bands and singers. The Rocking Berries, the Fourmost, the Honeycombs, the Animals, Herman's Hermits, Sounds Inc., and others played in sometimes surreal studio sets. The MC was a British DJ named Jimmy Seville.

The one I don't want is "Retik the Moon Menace" starring Commando Cody, a guy with a pointy helmet and a rocket pack on his back. I think Clayton Moore played him at one time -- he always wore a Lone Ranger-style black mask when he didn't have the helmet on.

That was the all-night show on KTLA and KTTV in Los Angeles. The main sponsor was Cal Worthington -- I think I saw every "Dog Spot" commercial he ever made (for those not from LA, the schtick was that he accepted the animal as a trade-in for a car. "He told me it was a dog," Cal always said).

The animal was anything but a dog. I think the most popular ones were the tiger and the elephant.

There's a little 'dog' around, go see Cal,
Only weighs five hundred pounds, go see Cal,
If you go out to the lot,
Better watch out for ol' Spot,
If he gets a little hot, go see Cal.

146 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:57:45pm

re: #136 victor_yugo

"The Last Night of a Jockey" with Mickey Rooney.

That one was like a punch in the gut.

"Eye of the Beholder" terrified me when I was little.

But "The Lonely" was the real gut-wrencher.

147 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:58:30pm

re: #135 esch


The Tommyknockers was a good read- too bad the latter half of the miniseries really butchered it despite showing some promise in the beginning. And WTF was up with filming it in New Zealand? Apparently rural Maine didn't look enough like rural Maine.

I also remember Dennis Miller commenting on former p0rn starlet Traci Lord's role in the miniseries:

'Not surprisingly, this isn't the first movie with 'knockers' in the title that Lords has appeared in'

148 esch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:59:40pm

I found it.
Holy scheiss:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"Originally scheduled to air on November 22, 1963, it was preempted by the Kennedy assassination."

I'm hiding in the closet.

149 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 10:59:48pm

re: #143 victor_yugo

"Eye of the Beholder" made me think. A lot.

What about "The Rip Van Winkle Caper"?

150 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:02:11pm

"Two" with Karolis Bucinskis Charles Bronson and Elizabeth Montgomery. I cheered at the end.

151 Tarkus289  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:02:12pm

I promised myself I would stay here til #150, so I posted it myself.
Good night all.

152 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:02:41pm

re: #148 esch

I found it.
Holy scheiss:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"Originally scheduled to air on November 22, 1963, it was preempted by the Kennedy assassination."

I'm hiding in the closet.

"Long Distance Call" was also very creepy and yet a heartstring-tugger.

153 jcm  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:04:21pm

I'm outta here for tonight...

154 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:05:44pm

The music for TZ was great also, huge orchestra supplemented by these new instruments of recent invention called electric guitars and vibraphones.

Bernard Hermann.

155 esch  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:07:20pm

re: #152 stuiec

Yeah, not quite as scary though.

Night all. I'm going to try to sleep, probably foolish at this point.

156 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:07:32pm

speaking of Rod Serling...

... a woman in Texas recently had a parasitic worm removed from her brain.

Anyone remember this?

"... it was a female, and females lay eggs..."

157 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:08:09pm

re: #149 stuiec

What about "The Rip Van Winkle Caper"?

Heh. They didn't get what they hoped for... and they wouldn't have gotten it anyway.

The Sci-Fi channel showed "Death's Head Re-visited" during their last marathon. Do you supposed there's any chance we could hack into al-Jazeera's and al-Manar's satellites and show it in the Middle East?

158 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:08:14pm

re: #156 stuiec

speaking of Rod Serling...

... a woman in Texas recently had a parasitic worm removed from her brain.

Anyone remember this?

"... it was a female, and females lay eggs..."

From the UL?

159 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:10:14pm
160 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:11:08pm

re: #158 Salem

From the UL?

?

PIMF: the woman was in Arizona.

And the line of dialogue is from an episode of Rod Serling's Night Gallery... the one starring Laurence Harvey. Talk about scary...!

161 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:11:44pm

re: #159 Hateful Hater

You're nuts.

162 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:12:31pm

re: #160 stuiec

?

PIMF: the woman was in Arizona.

And the line of dialogue is from an episode of Rod Serling's Night Gallery... the one starring Laurence Harvey. Talk about scary...!

NM

163 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:12:59pm

re: #157 victor_yugo

Heh. They didn't get what they hoped for... and they wouldn't have gotten it anyway.

The Sci-Fi channel showed "Death's Head Re-visited" during their last marathon. Do you supposed there's any chance we could hack into al-Jazeera's and al-Manar's satellites and show it in the Middle East?

Unfortunately, if we did, half the viewers would regard it as a comedy, and the other half as a tutorial.

164 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:13:23pm
165 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:13:49pm

re: #164 Erik The Red

Said pretty much the same thing downstairs.

166 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:15:14pm

re: #162 Salem

Why do I feel like I am playing a game of Hangman... and losing?

167 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:16:20pm

re: #164 Erik The Red

Either you forgot the / tag or you are smoking some great shit.

Or maybe just watches Stargate: SG-1 a little too obsessively...

168 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:17:27pm

re: #143 victor_yugo

"Eye of the Beholder" made me think. A lot.

"Needle please!"

169 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:18:54pm

re: #159 Hateful Hater

All that's missing is a cloud of smoke and some ominous music in the background, otherwise #159 could be posted by the Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past

170 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:18:56pm

re: #159 Hateful Hater

"There is much evidence of Alien control over ancient Earth."

We are all waiting, please go on. We like evidence here.

171 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:19:14pm
172 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:20:28pm
173 Macker  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:20:34pm

re: #55 Adrenalyn

Not to mention "Zombies of The Stratosphere"...

174 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:20:47pm

re: #171 Hateful Hater

Modgi? Is that you?

175 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:21:33pm
176 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:21:53pm

Bosnians are on a suicide path...

and Kosovo is free.

Pass the shit, man, I could use a hit.

177 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:22:35pm

re: #174 Sharmuta

Modgi? Is that you?

I dunno- he didn't threaten to shoot any of us if we made our way to post-apocolyptic Las Vegas.

178 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:25:58pm
179 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:27:32pm

Well, don't go away mad.
/just go away.

180 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:27:54pm
181 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:28:30pm

I wonder whose sock puppet this is...

182 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:28:36pm

I know! Let's play 'Count the posts'! Whichever troll/moby/sock puppet posts in the most theads after promising to leave, wins!

183 itellu3times  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:29:12pm

re: #9 pat

Obama's selections are interesting. Reveal incredible inadequacy and a tendency for mistake. He has no confidence in himself and well he should not. it is not clear that he is very knowledgeable.

I'd say his appointments so far are massively unimaginative and uninspiring, but as to why, I'd favor 0bambi's ignorance, more than any issue of confidence. Bunch of retread political hacks, so far. Very Chicago style, I guess.

184 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:29:20pm

re: #174 Sharmuta

Until I see a "Fuck You Guys" followed by vague threats and sad assertions of superior combat prowess, I will not be convinced. :)

185 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:30:15pm

Savage? Is that you? I used to think you were good people.

186 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:30:36pm

re: #178 Hateful Hater

I thought the way to seriously combat jihad was by running a stalker blog. ///

187 Erik The Red  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:30:51pm

re: #182 Fenway_Nation

I know! Let's play 'Count the posts'! Whichever troll/moby/sock puppet posts in the most theads after promising to leave, wins!

Charles should have a prize for the first person to -100 award.

188 Erik The Red  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:31:28pm

re: #187 Erik The Red

Charles should have a prize for the first person to -100 award.

The fastest and in the fewest number of posts.

189 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:32:35pm

Gen. Decker: Liberals! Intellectuals! Peacemongers! IDIOTS!

MARS ATTACKS...

190 Outrider  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:33:09pm

re: #164 Erik The Red

Either you forgot the / tag or you are smoking some great shit.

Not sure that shit is all that great judging from the comments. Sounds like someone got himself an full body probe one time too many.

191 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:33:20pm

re: #186 Sharmuta

No, no, no. The way to do that is by aligning with fascists that pay lip service to your faith and/or ethnicity.

///wait, what?

192 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:34:26pm

President Dale: I want the people to know that they still have 2 out of 3 branches of the government working for them, and that ain't bad.

MARS ATTACKS...

193 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:36:35pm

Martian Translator Device: We come in peace! We come in peace!


MARS ATTACKS...

194 gmsc  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:36:54pm

re: #192 Dustyvet

President Dale: I want the people to know that they still have 2 out of 3 branches of the government working for them, and that ain't bad.

MARS ATTACKS...

"They blew up Congress!"

195 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:37:37pm

re: #193 Dustyvet

Martian Translator Device: We come in peace! We come in peace!


MARS ATTACKS...

Marsian Ambassador: Ack! Ack! Ack!

196 Sharmuta  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:37:52pm

re: #191 Slumbering Behemoth

If only we combined the ability of both to combat jihad, why we could lick jihad in no time.

///

197 pat  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:37:55pm

I have never understood this movie. And by that, I mean I have never understood this movie.

198 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:38:14pm

re: #159 Hateful Hater

Here's your sign site.

199 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:40:11pm

re: #198 Slumbering Behemoth

Here's your sign site.

Actually I think this is Savage_Nation trying to sneak in again so LGF 2 would be his site

200 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:40:41pm

re: #196 Sharmuta

Yeah, we'd be licking something. Not so sure that something would be jihad, though. ;)

(*)

201 Colonel Panik  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:41:49pm

re: #156 stuiec

speaking of Rod Serling...

... a woman in Texas recently had a parasitic worm removed from her brain.

Anyone remember this?

"... it was a female, and females lay eggs..."

Was it the Hippie Hat Brain Parasite?

(A great William Gibson short story from the 1980's about those leather pseudo western hats a lot of hippies in the early 70's wore---think "Freewheelin' Franklin"---that were really a disguise used by a horseshoe crab like alien parasite that bores into people's brains. The story is a great satire of the sort of journalism of the paranormal that gave birth to "Coast To Coast AM".)

202 Killian Bundy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:41:51pm
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No. of comments posted: 7

Never makes it to ten.

/already successfully called this once tonight on another troll

203 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:41:52pm
204 Smilla  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:41:54pm

re: #31 Adrenalyn

I am still waiting for a remake/movie version
of F Troop

Gilbert Gottfried could be Corporal Agarn

Jenna Jameson could be wranger Jane

Who's going to play Corporal Agarn?

205 Mr Spiffy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:43:12pm

re: #25 stuiec

And what's even stranger is that a remake is the works!

starring Keanu Reeves?

206 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:43:46pm

re: #203 Hateful Hater

Think about it.

I have.

You're an idiot.

207 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:44:03pm

re: #199 Neo Con since 9-11

Could be, I suppose. But with all that alien conspiracy theory stuff I think that Alex Jones' site is the one for HH.

...wait, what?!?

208 pat  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:44:14pm

As it turns out, there are other things I do not understand. But it is unlikely I shall move to a socialist country to avoid imagined Marxism.

209 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:46:01pm
210 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:46:21pm

re: #207 Slumbering Behemoth

Could be, I suppose. But with all that alien conspiracy theory stuff I think that Alex Jones' site is the one for HH.

...wait, what?!?

Holy fuck...

211 Mr Spiffy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:46:22pm

re: #31 Adrenalyn

I am still waiting for a remake/movie version
of F Troop

Gilbert Gottfried could be Corporal Agarn

Jenna Jameson could be wranger Jane


Too bad there's no one to play O'Rourke

212 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:46:23pm

re: #168 gmsc

"Needle please!"



"No Change. No change at all..."

213 Mr Spiffy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:47:24pm

re: #33 stuiec

Do not attempt to figure out any aspect of Plan 9 from Outer Space. You run the risk of permanent mental damage -- the kind that Ed Wood suffered and that resulted in Plan 9 in the first place.

and the Obama presidency

214 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:47:34pm

re: #211 Mr Spiffy

Too bad there's no one to play O'Rourke

Ricardo Montalbán isn't available?

215 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:47:43pm

re: #207 Slumbering Behemoth

HH.

Good catch

216 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:47:46pm

re: #209 victor_yugo

The remake.

Great. Seems like the only reason for the remake is the release date: 09.09.09.

217 Outrider  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:49:07pm

re: #206 victor_yugo

re: #203 Hateful Hater

Think about it.


I have.

You're an idiot.


I reread the comments.

Hateful Hater-you're still an idiot.

218 Moe Katz  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:49:43pm

re: #172 ploome hineni

and what did you discover, after studying the dynamics?

Better said privately.

219 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:50:27pm

re: #203 Hateful Hater

Christian Mexicans? WTF? I thought you were all about Annunaki. Or was it the Anasazi? Or the Anansie?

Sorry, can't remember, I tend to lose track when folk go into nutter territory.

220 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:50:35pm

re: #201 Colonel Panik

Was it the Hippie Hat Brain Parasite?

(A great William Gibson short story from the 1980's about those leather pseudo western hats a lot of hippies in the early 70's wore---think "Freewheelin' Franklin"---that were really a disguise used by a horseshoe crab like alien parasite that bores into people's brains. The story is a great satire of the sort of journalism of the paranormal that gave birth to "Coast To Coast AM".)

No, but that sounds like a lot of fun.

It was an episode of Rod Serling's Night Gallery called "The Caterpillar." I highly recommend it.

221 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:50:38pm
222 stuiec  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:51:37pm

re: #213 Mr Spiffy

and the Obama presidency

Touché.

223 Outrider  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:51:49pm

re: #221 Hateful Hater

So you support the increased Islamic immigration under Bush?

Depends what kind of bush I would guess? Rhododendrons?

224 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:51:59pm

Do you support nuking them all and letting Satan sort them out?

225 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:52:57pm
226 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:53:29pm
228 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:55:06pm

Renfield: I think they're from the government.
Count Dracula: How do you know?
Renfield: They're wearing shoes.


LOVE AT FIRST BITE...

229 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:56:32pm
230 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:57:15pm

re: #210 victor_yugo

re: #215 Neo Con since 9-11

Could just be a coincidence...

231 wiffersnapper  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:58:55pm

Just saw the X-Files episode where Mulder quotes a chunk of that movie (Hollywood AD). Coincidence? I think not!

232 Salem  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:59:14pm

re: #209 victor_yugo

The remake.

"John Johnson" as Patrolman Kelton?

That couldn't be any relation to Tor Johnson, surely...

233 victor_yugo  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:59:35pm

re: #230 Slumbering Behemoth

Anyone who believes in coincidence is deluding himself.

OTOH, never assume malice where stupidity explains.

234 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:59:37pm
235 Killian Bundy  Fri, Nov 21, 2008 11:59:44pm

re: #229 Hateful Hater

Look at NY, it's over run with Muslims.

What do you suggest?

/hold my drink, saw this in a movie once, pretty sure it'll work

236 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:01:14am
237 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:01:59am
238 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:02:13am

re: #234 Hateful Hater

Why is the US government giving preferences to Muslims in Immigration?
Why?

/try a linky

239 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:02:17am

Second time I've said this tonight but please don't quote the troll, in this case Heil Hitler Hateful Hater. The boss is just going to have to clean up your comments in the morning. If you must use reply rather than quote.
Maybe I'm being paranoid but this crazy thing sounds like a deranged, paranoid, neo nazi. I don't want to wake up tommorow and see a dozen comments deleted because y'all quoted his bizarre rants.
Good luck and good night

241 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:03:54am

re: #239 Neo Con since 9-11

Second time I've said this tonight but please don't quote the troll, in this case Heil Hitler Hateful Hater. The boss is just going to have to clean up your comments in the morning. If you must use reply rather than quote.
Maybe I'm being paranoid but this crazy thing sounds like a deranged, paranoid, neo nazi. I don't want to wake up tommorow and see a dozen comments deleted because y'all quoted his bizarre rants.
Good luck and good night

Good point. Noted...too late. ;-)>

242 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:05:35am

Dang it, how can a 4M input file generate a 26M output file?

I'm outta here; web stuff will be insufferably slow now while GROMACS uploads this 26M file. Later, all.

243 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:06:37am
244 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:08:59am
245 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:09:48am

re: #233 victor_yugo

Anyone who believes in coincidence is deluding himself.

No delusion, coincidence is coincidence. Many things happen without rhyme nor reason. Sometimes you have happy coincidences, sometimes unfortunate coincidences, and sometimes the coincidences are just pathetically stupid. Hence the wizened, insightful phrase "Shit happens".

246 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:09:57am
247 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:10:13am
248 stuiec  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:10:41am

re: #232 Salem

"John Johnson" as Patrolman Kelton?

That couldn't be any relation to Tor Johnson, surely...

And Mr. Lobo as Criswell. That's inspired!

249 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:11:12am

re: #243 Hateful Hater

Nothing to refute. We have immigrants coming into the country. This is new? Some are from the mid-East. These we should stop? You have Lebanese in you? Obviously someone in your ancestry immigrated here.

Mad at you? Damn, could it have anything to do with the absurd, ridiculous, childish posts you have made?

250 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:12:29am

re: #244 ploome hineni

what is he saying that you find objectionable

I don't know, is NY really overrun with Muslims?

/and it's inability to provide a linky or articulate a remedy

251 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:12:36am
252 carefulnow  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:13:00am

I remember a showing of Plan 9 From Outer Space with the sound off and live actors providing the dialog. That was years ago, probably 1979. It was in Santa Monica, I think where they still have Rocky Horror showing at midnight on Saturdays.

My ability to reminisce with the grandkids about the old days is thereby constrained...

253 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:13:23am
254 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:14:03am
255 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:14:43am

re: #251 Hateful Hater

Your solution? Ban any and all Muslims? Is that it? I suppose your grand plan is to evict all those here already? That is the gist I am getting.

256 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:15:04am
257 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:16:31am
258 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:16:52am
259 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:16:55am
260 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:17:33am

re: #256 Hateful Hater
You people? I haven't heard any complaints about Christian Mexicans in here for awhile and for sure not in the context you are using.

Provide a link showing Shia has a preference in immigration. Or the Sunni.

261 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:18:54am
262 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:19:09am
263 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:19:19am
264 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:19:52am

re: #251 Hateful Hater

The truth troofer bothers them.

Fixed, free of charge, for your convenience.

265 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:19:57am
266 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:20:42am
267 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:21:02am
268 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:21:52am

re: #265 ploome hineni

What did we do with communists?

/um, absolutely nothing, witness Obama

269 Salem  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:21:54am

re: #248 stuiec

And Mr. Lobo as Criswell. That's inspired!

It's got some dazzling star-power attached, ain't it? Conrad Brooks and over-the-hill scream Queen Brinke Stevens. Aaaand, that's about it.

270 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:22:04am
271 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:22:16am

re: #263 Hateful Hater

Brilliant. You are saying any and all Muslims are enemies and potential terrorists? And should be prohibited from entering the country? Or am I misunderstanding?

272 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:22:57am
273 Mr Spiffy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:23:04am

re: #98 gmsc

Oooh - here's the TZ episode "The Hunt" - where an old country man and his dog die while chasing a raccoon, and journey to heaven together.

Good dog!
;)

written by Earl-Boy "Simpson"

274 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:23:43am

re: #265 ploome hineni

What did we do with communists?

Which ones? During the 50s? Not a hell of a lot, they were everywhere in the government and entertainment industry.

275 Salem  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:24:20am

My next drawing is of Vampira and Tor Johnson, so this thread inspired something, at least.

276 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:24:36am
“The New Colossus” by Emma Lazarus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

If one is willing to come in and become one of US, then one is welcome here.

Many have come in and kept their own culture, but have realized that they must adapt to the culture of this country. Some have yet to reach that conclusion.

Yet the beacon is still lit, and it still stands. I, for one, will not ever vote in favor of dousing that flame.

Not.Ever.

277 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:25:37am

re: #276 Intrepid

If one is willing to come in and become one of US, then one is welcome here.

Many have come in and kept their own culture, but have realized that they must adapt to the culture of this country. Some have yet to reach that conclusion.

Yet the beacon is still lit, and it still stands. I, for one, will not ever vote in favor of dousing that flame.

Not.Ever.

I'd upding you a couple more if I could.

278 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:25:44am
279 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:27:25am

re: #275 Salem

My next drawing is of Vampira and Tor Johnson, so this thread inspired something, at least.

Tor Johnson - one of the greats! Up there with Richard Kiel and Ted Cassidy!

280 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:28:09am
281 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:28:24am
282 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:28:45am

re: #278 Hateful Hater

Again. Where is your link showing Muslims have priority immigration status?

In the Army we had a phrase for folks like you. Well, a couple actually. Quitter is the one that pops to mind right now. Things aren't going the way you want or it's getting hard? Quit.

Know my answer? You don't know shit, son. And what the hell do you know about winning? You're leaving remember?

283 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:28:52am

re: #278 Hateful Hater

that's why I've given up hope and leaving.

When? Where to?
'Heard this tune before.

284 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:28:55am
285 stuiec  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:29:16am

re: #270 Hateful Hater

Auon is a traitor and despised by most Maronites. He's a Dhimmi and he's a fraud, like the Bushes and Clinton.

Pull my other leg. The FPM has a big chunk of seats in the Lebanese Parliament, and it didn't get those by not getting the votes of Maronite Christians. Aoun may be a dhimmi and a traitor, but he certainly has a lot of Maronite support.

286 Salem  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:29:32am

re: #279 gmsc

Tor Johnson - one of the greats! Up there with Richard Kiel and Ted Cassidy!

Three thuggish thespians!

287 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:30:09am
288 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:30:19am
289 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:30:43am

re: #278 Hateful Hater

Buh bye.

Buh bye.

Go already.

290 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:31:34am

re: #278 Hateful Hater

Yes we should not allow them in. Arab Christians should be given priority over them. Why are Muslims given priority over Arab Christians?
Who would you rather have as your neighbor, a Coptic Egyptian or a Muslim Egyptian.
I know your answer. It's your mindset why America will not win. America isn't serious, that's why I've given up hope and leaving.

You sir or madam, are full of crap. You see a "demon behind every bush".

Most immigrants who come here do so because they see opportunity where none was available in their homeland. Some come here for nefarious means, but they are the exception, not the rule.

We must not cut off the flow of legal immigration for fear of the few who would seek to do us harm. To do so is to deny who we are as a nation.

291 Salem  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:32:23am

Cool! I invented a tongue-twister.

292 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:32:24am

re: #287 ploome hineni

well said

what is it you do not understand about islam

which considers any SECULAR DEMOCRACY ILLIGITIMATE?

and which states, Islam is not in America to integrate, but to dominate?

what is it you are unable to comprehend?

What is it you don't understand about a Democratic Republic? Or is it your assertion we should follow some of the other folks ideas in Europe?

293 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:32:26am

re: #281 Hateful Hater

Don't cry then when the Somali and Paki cab drivers start doing car bombings. Don't complain when IED's are plated in places like Dearborn. Don't be upset when your Grandkids are forced to pay a Jizaya Tax and the Call to prayer is heard everywhere.
Your mindset is your own doom.

/when in panic, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

294 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:33:02am

re: #267 Hateful Hater

Liar! I have seen Hispanic bashing on LGF many times.

Okay buddy, put up or shut up. Provide a link proving this bullshit or fuck right off!

295 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:33:42am

re: #293 Killian Bundy

/when in panic, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

Or just stand in shock and pee on yourself. ;)

296 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:34:05am

re: #289 pink freud

Buh bye.

Buh bye.

Go already.

Why would HH go? He desires attention, and many here are more than willing to give him want he wants.

297 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:34:56am

re: #295 FurryOldGuyJeans

Or just stand in shock and pee on yourself. ;)

Time for a coordinated mass downding party? ;)

298 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:36:31am

re: #296 gmsc

Why would HH go? He desires attention, and many here are more than willing to give him want he wants.

Afraid you're right. I got sucked in. ;-)>

299 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:36:59am

From now on, call me "Loving Lover".
I don't know why...it just came to me.

300 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:37:23am

re: #298 Outrider

Afraid you're right. I got sucked in. ;-)>

It is so easy to get distracted by all the shiny idjits. ;)

301 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:37:24am
302 boogberg  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:37:41am

Hah!

I thought I was buying GM at $3.20. Turns out it was $2.99.

Yep. I'm investing in factories and stuff. :D

303 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:39:07am
304 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:39:52am

re: #288 Slumbering Behemoth

Stand back, dude is on a mission. "You people", where have I heard that before?

//The sugar buzz will wear off, and the kid will burn himself out. Just step back and watch it flail at the air until the little guy tuckers out.

I smell a moby. Troll scent is different ;)

305 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:40:13am

re: #300 FurryOldGuyJeans

It is so easy to get distracted by all the shiny dull idjits. ;)

;-)

306 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:41:47am

re: #300 FurryOldGuyJeans

It is so easy to get distracted by all the shiny idjits. ;)

always equated it to that game of Hit The Mole.

307 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:42:10am

re: #305 pink freud

;-)

Normally I say what I mean and and am slightly peeved with being "fixed" by someone, but in this case I do think it is highly appropriate since I was mixing metaphors and the mixing was less than perfect. ;)

308 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:42:18am

uɐpoɹ uıʞɔnɟ

Gawt-damned worthless moby!

309 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:42:49am

re: #303 Hateful Hater

Sorry. Can't make heads or tails out of that mess. Try again.

310 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:43:14am

re: #303 Hateful Hater

You know nothing about me.


True enough. Tell us about yourself and what has made you so passionate about this topic.

311 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:43:20am

Crap - got took in by a wacko. Chagrined look on my face...

312 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:43:21am

Remember "Pearls before swine".
Apathy is the real cure.

313 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:43:27am
314 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:44:32am

re: #312 IslandLibertarian

Remember "Pearls before swine".
Apathy is the real cure.

Now wait just a darned minute...my last sow looked simply stunning with that string of...

Never mind. ;)

315 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:44:52am

re: #307 FurryOldGuyJeans

Normally I say what I mean and and am slightly peeved with being "fixed" by someone, but in this case I do think it is highly appropriate since I was mixing metaphors and the mixing was less than perfect. ;)

Your mixin' was fine, sir. Fixin' isn't something I would normally do, but it seemed appropriate.

/pardon me for peevin', albeit only slightly :)

316 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:45:23am

re: #314 FurryOldGuyJeans

Now wait just a darned minute...my last sow looked simply stunning with that string of...

Never mind. ;)

Let me guess, the silk purse matched?
;)

317 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:46:03am

re: #315 pink freud

Your mixin' was fine, sir. Fixin' isn't something I would normally do, but it seemed appropriate.

/pardon me for peevin', albeit only slightly :)

ROFLMHAO. Dang, boy, you are GOOD! ;)

318 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:46:38am

re: #316 gmsc

Let me guess, the silk purse matched?
;)

Um, I take the Fifth! ;)

319 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:46:39am
320 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:47:39am

re: #317 FurryOldGuyJeans

ROFLMHAO. Dang, boy gal, you are GOOD! ;)

Oh dear. Here I go again.

321 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:47:46am
322 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:47:50am
323 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:48:17am

Damn, I haven't been called naive since I was .. 12?

I'm with post #308, Slumbering Behemoth. This thing has to be a moby

324 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:48:43am
325 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:48:51am

re: #320 pink freud

Oh dear. Here I go again.

EGADS! My abject apologies. I kiss your hand for contriteness. ;)

326 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:50:46am
327 Mr Spiffy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:51:17am

re: #214 victor_yugo

I don't think he could get the Hakawis to make rich Corinthian leather for just some beads firewater.

328 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:51:37am

re: #313 Hateful Hater

Oh, but what if a Muslim comes here and grasps the reality of true freedom?

Blows your shit theory out of the water, doesn't it?

I'll take giving them a chance at true freedom over discriminating against them any day.

But then - please give me an example where a "Muslim" was given preference in immigration over another religion's adherent. Please. Just one example.

329 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:51:37am

re: #324 Hateful Hater

*cough*loonybitch*cough*

330 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:51:38am
331 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:52:43am

re: #323 Outrider

Damn, I haven't been called naive since I was .. 12?

I'm with post #308, Slumbering Behemoth. This thing has to be a moby

*AHEM* #304 ;)

332 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:53:39am

re: #319 ploome hineni

We are not Europe, Ploome. You cannot compare the US with the EU.

333 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:53:42am
334 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:53:47am

re: #331 FurryOldGuyJeans

*AHEM* #304 ;)

I do stand corrected and humbly beg forgiveness on the oversight ;-)>

335 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:55:40am

re: #333 ploome hineni

he is obviously a Christian Lebonese...saying the exact same thing
Brigitt Gabriel is saying

what is wrong with you people?

There's a whiff of madness emanating from his posts, ploome. It turns people off, no matter that there may or may not be any validity to what he says.

336 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:55:51am

Humanity was created by A Liens. That's a fact.

I think someone is putting us on.
Good one. Almost had me 'til I saw that.

/or someone needs professional help.

337 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:56:09am
338 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:56:38am

re: #324 Hateful Hater

I know from my relatives what Islam does when they get enough numbers they take over. Look at Lebanon, is that what you want for America? Why is America letting in Shia over Maronites?

According to an academic review of available survey-based data in 2001, informed by information provided by Muslim organizations and mosques, the highest reasonable total number of Muslims in the United States is 2.8 million.

Out of well over 300 million. Take over? We'll all be speaking Spanish centuries before Sharia becomes U.S. law.

/so [expletive deleted] right off!

339 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:56:49am

Oh, and by the way, Ploome - I am not "so dumb".

I do not want my country to become a closed off piece of crap. And that's what will happen if we close our borders to new immigrants.

You'd understand about immigrating to America means, wouldn't you, Ploome?

340 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:56:59am

re: #333 ploome hineni

he is obviously a Christian Lebonese...saying the exact same thing
Brigitt Gabriel is saying

what is wrong with you people?

We live in the USA. A Democratic Republic, not a dictatorship.

341 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:58:14am
342 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:58:32am
343 Mr Spiffy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:59:04am

re: #277 Outrider

I'd upding you a couple more if I could.

gotcherback

344 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:59:05am
345 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:59:33am

re: #342 ploome hineni

you really really are dumb

Heh. You're funny. Anyway, welcome to America!

346 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:59:38am
347 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:00:24am

re: #333 ploome hineni

he is obviously a Christian Lebonese...saying the exact same thing
Brigitt Gabriel is saying

what is wrong with you people?

Can't say what's wrong with anyone else but my right knee needs replacement cartilage, I have severe astigmatism, and a runny nose from the cold weather. But I was really wanting to hear what was wrong with HH.

348 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:00:24am
349 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:01:31am

re: #348 Hateful Hater

ah so let in more of the enemy, great!

Yere: #338 Killian Bundy

Not anymore. Bush has given preferences to Muslims over Hispanics now. There is an increase of Islamic Immigration over the last few years. It's easier for them to enter. But you are cool with this. Enjoy the Jihad!

Where is a valid link showing preferences of Muslims over Hispanics? Where do you read/see this?

350 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:01:48am
351 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:02:07am

re: #333 ploome hineni

what is wrong with you people?

What do you mean "you people"?

352 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:02:37am

re: #349 Outrider

Where is a valid link showing preferences of Muslims over Hispanics? Where do you read/see this?

He received it over the airwaves with his tinfoil detection set. ;)

353 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:03:20am

Fox News:
Malaysia's top Islamic body issues an edict to forbid yoga, saying the exercise includes Hindu spiritual elements and worship and could 'destroy the faith of a Muslim.

Outlawing specific religious practices...hmmm...not so good.

354 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:03:48am

re: #348 Hateful Hater

Not anymore. Bush has given preferences to Muslims over Hispanics now. There is an increase of Islamic Immigration over the last few years. It's easier for them to enter. But you are cool with this. Enjoy the Jihad!

so, what is it now, 2% of the U.S. population, up from .5%? That's not even statistically significant.

/linky?

355 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:03:59am

ploome hineni and Hateful Hater

I'm curious now. What are your solutions? You have both (not so eloquently) outlined the problems.

356 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:04:24am
357 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:04:31am
358 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:04:34am

re: #353 IslandLibertarian

Yet very Muslim, as seen in the religious tolerant Saudi Arabia.

359 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:04:34am

re: #348 Hateful Hater

*hackwheezecough*shitferbrains*hackwheezecough*

360 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:04:41am

re: #344 ploome hineni

the problem is muslim immigrants

not immigrants

Yet, in the city I live close to, the Muslim population has integrated into our population as a whole.

You think we need to keep out "Muslims"? Just because they are "Muslim"?

Then how will they ever learn what freedom is? If they don't have a chance to see what it is like? And no, I am not being naiive. I'm being realistic.

You're being absolutist.

361 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:05:22am
362 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:06:38am

re: #239 Neo Con since 9-11

Second time I've said this tonight but please don't quote the troll, in this case Heil Hitler Hateful Hater. The boss is just going to have to clean up your comments in the morning. If you must use reply rather than quote.
Maybe I'm being paranoid but this crazy thing sounds like a deranged, paranoid, neo nazi. I don't want to wake up tommorow and see a dozen comments deleted because y'all quoted his bizarre rants.
Good luck and good night

that's an insult to deranged, paranoid, neo nazis... %-)

363 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:06:53am

re: #359 Slumbering Behemoth

*hackwheezecough*shitferbrains*hackwheezecough*

/if everyone reports that one it'll be gone when Charles wakes up and we won't have to play show me the linky

364 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:07:05am
365 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:07:24am
366 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:07:40am

re: #362 redc1c4

that's an insult to deranged, paranoid, neo nazis... %-)

Sarcastic wise-ass mode: OFF

Just as it should be.

Sarcastic wise-ass mode: ON ;)

367 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:08:16am
368 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:08:30am
369 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:08:58am

re: #363 Killian Bundy

/if everyone reports that one it'll be gone when Charles wakes up and we won't have to play show me the linky

Been doing that each and every. Or was I supposed to have held off? ;)

370 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:09:09am
371 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:09:15am

re: #364 Hateful Hater

And thus, reinforcing the belief in the Islamic world that the US hates Muslims.

You are crazy, and should take more meds.

372 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:09:18am

re: #356 Hateful Hater

You all will be shocked by the next census. I predict the Muslim population will be 7% due to the increased numbers of Somalians, Bosnians, Arab Muslims and Pakis.

/of course you must have some type of source for that assertion, *not holding breath*

373 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:10:20am

re: #364 Hateful Hater

Easy a freeze on Islamic Immigration. We should allow only Non Muslims for Islamic majority countries. That right would solve the problem. Without increasing numbers the Muslim population would stop growing and they would know Theo place here and not act up.
Better the Mexicans than the Muslims any day!

Aw crap. You stated they were already doing all this stuff here and now. Preventing further immigration would magically stop these events you say are already happening? IEDs in Dearborne and all that?

"they would know Theo place here and not act up." Wow. Just wow!

374 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:10:27am

I'm curious to know which country Hateful Hater is going to flee to. I mean if the USA is no longer 'safe' in his mind's eye, then what country is?

375 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:10:46am

re: #361 Outrider

And back at you!

your blog, or someone else's? i posted a rant at the usual suspects on my "pathetic blog" but i refuse to link it, other than through my blue nic.

376 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:11:36am

re: #362 redc1c4

that's an insult to deranged, paranoid, neo nazis... %-)

/me puts hands in the air "Not that there's anything wrong with being a deranged, paranoid, neo nazi..."

377 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:11:36am

re: #364 Hateful Hater

Easy a freeze on Islamic Immigration. We should allow only Non Muslims for Islamic majority countries. That right would solve the problem. Without increasing numbers the Muslim population would stop growing and they would know Theo place here and not act up.
Better the Mexicans than the Muslims any day!

What about the ones that are already here?

/you do know they breed right?

378 Mr Spiffy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:11:45am

re: #374 Fenway_Nation

Narnia?

379 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:11:52am

re: #374 Fenway_Nation

I'm curious to know which country Hateful Hater is going to flee to. I mean if the USA is no longer 'safe' in his mind's eye, then what country is?

Erehwon or Narnia.

380 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:12:15am

re: #363 Killian Bundy

Done did it from jump.

re: #370 Hateful Hater

You're the reason people get rich investing in Alcoa.

381 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:12:34am
382 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:13:01am

re: #367 Hateful Hater

Yeah right! How have they integrated? I bet their women are covered and there are no dogs in their area. Hey ask them about Israel and you'll see their true colors.

Uhm, come and see what they do here in Nashville. Kurds, Egyptians, Iraqis - all living here and pitching in. No burqas. No assaults on synagogues or temples, at least not by Muslims. Only by wacko Stormfront types, like yourself.

I live here, dude. You don't. I see it. I live it.

383 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:13:36am
384 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:13:54am

re: #381 Hateful Hater

Buh-bye!

Now we get the real source of all his concern. Whoa, LFG2!

385 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:14:02am

re: #367 Hateful Hater

I can give a couple of examples. My neighbor was born a Muslim and you it would be hard to find someone further integrated into the culture. I assume they would call her an apostic.

My Company Commander in Germany (I might add Military Intelligence)was a first generation Irani. His parents were Shia. They integrated quite well. Again, apostics.

So, I guess like Intrepid said, it happens eh? Or are they moles just waiting for instructions?

386 Mr Spiffy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:14:03am

re: #377 Killian Bundy

What about the ones that are already here?

/you do know they breed right?

don't we all? (or at least try ;) )

387 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:14:17am

re: #359 Slumbering Behemoth

*hackwheezecough*shitferbrains*hackwheezecough*

that's so fucking whack that i saved it as a text file for posterity...
and it's not even a full moon. (or a full deck! %-)

388 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:14:41am
389 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:14:42am

Oh...here's a riddle for everyone, by the way:

Q: What's the difference between Palestine and Santa's Workshop?

A: One is a figment of the imagination that never existed save for in the minds of some gullible youths...

and the other is populated by elves and makes toys at the North Pole

390 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:14:43am

re: #383 pink freud

It always bubbles to the surface, don't it?

Who'da thunkit?

The cesspool is full and in desperate need of RidX.

391 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:15:22am

Mu is the name of a continent that existed in one of Earth's oceans, but disappeared at the dawn of human history.
Several ancient civilizations, such as those of Egypt and Mesoamerica, were created by refugees from Mu —This concept was popularized and expanded by James Churchward (1851–1936), who asserted that Mu was once located in the Pacific.

/A Liens indeed! phhhttt!

392 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:15:27am

re: #375 redc1c4

your blog, or someone else's? i posted a rant at the usual suspects on my "pathetic blog" but i refuse to link it, other than through my blue nic.

Proud to say, that one is mine. ;-)>

393 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:16:01am
394 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:16:16am

re: #381 Hateful Hater

There we go! I knew it!

395 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:16:38am

re: #390 FurryOldGuyJeans

No shit.

396 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:17:04am
397 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:17:10am

re: #394 Outrider

There we go! I knew it!

Was there really any doubt? Not for me. ;)

398 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:17:13am

re: #370 Hateful Hater

That's my opinion on the origin of life.

and my opinion is that you're a booger eating moron.

(and the poster child for retroactive birth control. %-)

HTH, HAND, FOAD...

399 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:17:41am

re: #381 Hateful Hater

Ah! Now I get it - you're one of those folks who lurk here, waiting for a chance to blow your wad, and then run and report back to that LGF2 site what wondrous things you've done!

What you've really done here is show how uninformed you are.

400 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:18:53am

re: #395 pink freud

No shit.

No, shit, and LOTS of it. ;)

401 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:19:22am

re: #388 Neo Con since 9-11

I told you this was Savage_Nation

We have a hero here! Infiltrating--exposing--mission accomplished...a real freaking hero.

The true nature of LGF has been exposed. I have infiltrated their ranks and brought up the fact that Muslims are coming here in creasing numbers.
My account will soon be abnned. But Mission accomplished! This is what the purge in LGF has reduced it too. A buch of fools call anyone that explains the Islamic threat a Nazi and thinks it’s cool to let in more Jihadists

.

402 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:20:18am

re: #400 FurryOldGuyJeans

:-)

What an idjit.

403 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:20:38am

re: #396 Slumbering Behemoth

Hah! I figured as much. Fuck off Nador, go back to your pathetic little circle-jerk stalker blog.

Here, take this pair of tweezers, jar of vaseline, and a magnifying glass as a parting gift. You can share it with your fellow needle dick bug fuckers.

i've got some C-rat cans on a piece of WD-1 that we can tie to it's tail before we set it off down the alley...

404 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:20:55am

re: #244 ploome hineni

what is he saying that you find objectionable

/still want to ask that question?

405 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:21:03am

re: #402 pink freud

:-)

What an idjit.

Why, thank you ;)

406 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:21:55am

re: #404 Killian Bundy

/still want to ask that question?

I noticed she stopped posting as soon as Spencer and LGF2 were mentioned.

407 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:21:59am

re: #403 redc1c4

i've got some C-rat cans on a piece of WD-1 that we can tie to it's tail before we set it off down the alley...

I got a better place to stick that can. And we can put some C4 in it on the other end of the WD-1.

408 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:22:02am
409 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:23:11am

re: #404 Killian Bundy

/still want to ask that question?

I feel the need to scoop up Bridgette Gabriel's good and honorable name and disinfect it now.

No comparison.

410 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:23:17am

re: #401 Outrider

My account will soon be abnned.

I hate it when I get "abnned"!

(is that like "banned", but in wacko-land?)

411 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:23:23am

re: #403 redc1c4

i've got some C-rat cans on a piece of WD-1 that we can tie to it's tail before we set it off down the alley...

Got any Ham and Lima Beans?

412 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:24:27am

re: #405 FurryOldGuyJeans

Why, thank you ;)

Come on now!

/cajun, we say these things

413 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:24:34am

re: #408 Hateful Hater

Dude. No one is naive about Islam. We know what the score is.

We just are not willing to make this a dictatorship of a nation to respond to this threat. Creating a dictatorship is merely another way of caving in to the terrorists. Why? Because they hate our freedoms.

414 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:25:13am

re: #410 Intrepid

I hate it when I get "abnned"!

(is that like "banned", but in wacko-land?)

I bet it hurts. But, he is used to the pain. And he is leaving anyway.

415 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:25:18am

re: #408 Hateful Hater

Didn't you leave?

416 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:25:46am

re: #411 Dustyvet

Got any Ham and Lima Beans?

If I did, I'd give em to you in a heartbeat. ;-)>

417 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:26:31am
418 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:26:50am

re: #415 pink freud

Didn't you leave?

He is worse than a gassy pig for fouling the air and hanging around. ;)

419 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:27:30am

re: #417 Dustyvet

You have a girl friend? Go figure...:)

Rosey Palmer. ;)

420 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:27:34am

re: #411 Dustyvet

Got any Ham and Lima Beans?

naw... i always traded those with the fools that didn't like ham and eggs chopped. %-)

421 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:27:57am
422 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:28:02am

re: #417 Dustyvet

You have a girl friend? Go figure...:)

she's not baaa d looking.

(for a sheep. %-)

423 Haverwilde  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:28:21am

My goodness, there has been quite the invasion of trolls tonight. It makes me tired. Good night all.

424 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:29:13am
425 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:29:25am

re: #421 Hateful Hater

I do enjoying exposing myself to the finer things in life, thank you very much. ;)

426 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:29:25am

re: #420 redc1c4

naw... i always traded those with the fools that didn't like ham and eggs chopped. %-)

Ham and eggs chopped...never could eat those...;P

427 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:30:04am

re: #424 redc1c4

and me without a black raincoat!

besa mi culo, puto.

I just drop trou and let it all hang out myself. ;)

428 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:30:39am

re: #422 redc1c4

she's not baaa d looking.

(for a sheep. %-)

Oh Falkland Island War Brides...:)

429 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:30:42am

re: #421 Hateful Hater

with Lebanese blood in me

Ooh, is that like negro blood?

/hopefully that was your last comment

430 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:30:49am

re: #423 Haverwilde

My goodness, there has been quite the invasion of trolls tonight. It makes me tired. Good night all.

An invasion of one, but boy was it a good one. ;)

431 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:31:21am

re: #426 Dustyvet

Ham and eggs chopped...never could eat those...;P

i loved them, and the blackberry jam, especially spreading it on poundcake.

when the first MRE's came out, the dehydrated strawberries were the best.

432 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:06am

re: #420 redc1c4

naw... i always traded those with the fools that didn't like ham and eggs chopped. %-)

those weren't so bad heated up with the cheese poured on top and some hot sauce.

433 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:08am

OMG! We got PWNED by teH n00b. We suck at tEh intranet.

434 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:10am

re: #421 Hateful Hater

re: #429 Killian Bundy

Ooh, is that like negro blood?

/hopefully that was your last comment

...and if so, would that be plantation or house?

435 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:17am

re: #421 Hateful Hater

I am Hispanic with Lebanese blood in me. My Girl is a Serb who's dad fought Al-Qaeda in Bosnia.


You're a Mexican vampire who has just feasted on the blood of a poor Lebanese person and your girl friend is the daughter of a genocidal Serbian soldier. This sounds like a lovely couple.

436 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:30am
437 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:43am

re: #430 FurryOldGuyJeans

An invasion of a halfone, but boy was it a good one half wit. ;)

edited for accuracy... %-)

438 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:33:05am

re: #431 redc1c4

i loved them, and the blackberry jam, especially spreading it on poundcake.

when the first MRE's came out, the dehydrated strawberries were the best.

Never had the strawberries, just the freeze dried peaches in the MRE's

439 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:33:08am

For those who like keeping score:

Hateful Hater

Karma: -137
Registered since: Nov 17, 2008 at 6:44 pm
(Logged in)

No. of comments posted: 31
No. of links posted: 0

440 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:33:15am

re: #408 Hateful Hater

You wanna come here and call me a liar to my face, butt munch? I live here - I don't give a rat's red ass what your "Girl" says. I know several folks in the Egyptian community, and also have contacts in the Kurdish community. Your "Girl" might be a "Bosnian Serb", but that only says to me that she supports that genocidal maniac Radovan Karadic and his now hell-dwelling puppet master Slobodan Milosevic.

No, I have never "fought with neo-Nazis". I was too busy as a missionary trying to assist the Christian communities of Japan, Thailand and the rest of Southeast Asia the past 20 years to even think about taking up the cause of keeping America "pure".

Learn this - no place on earth is "Pure". Each country has its own problems, and the US is no different. Keeping Muslims out is no answer. Helping them integrate is.

441 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:33:16am

re: #403 redc1c4

How about just a simple oil soaked wick and a boot to the rear, sending it in the direction of it's blog?

re: #408 Hateful Hater

No, you're not Baggage_Nation, and I don't think you're just a reader. I think you're the head dunce of the stalker blog, Nador, Rodim, or whatever you call your pathetic self. That's what I think.

442 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:33:26am

re: #421 Hateful Hater

You keep saying good bye and you keep coming back. You're worse than a cold sore.

443 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:35:00am

re: #436 Hateful Hater

So you hate Blacks? What's wrong with Blacks?
ANother post for LGF2! Yeah!

/go for it, I suspect most LGF banees know where I stand

444 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:35:23am
445 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:35:51am

re: #444 Hateful Hater

thought you were leaving?

446 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:36:01am

re: #443 Killian Bundy

/go for it, I suspect most LGF banees know where I stand

And if they don't, so what, right?

447 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:36:15am

re: #440 Intrepid

butt munch

/got the upding right there

448 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:37:09am
449 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:37:44am

re: #421 Hateful Hater

Why do you remind me of Stewie Griffin? "Blast! I will now expose you as the fakes you are and take over the world!"

450 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:40:06am

HH

Problem is--You hate Muslims more than you love the USA. You would be willing to destroy our way of life, our form of government and everything else to counter this threat, when there are better ways of dealing with it.

451 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:40:40am

re: #448 Slumbering Behemoth

Gotta link to support that?

/it couldn't find a linky if you tattooed it backward on it's forehead so it could read it in a mirror

452 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:41:11am
453 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:41:55am

I think Hateful Hater has a point. There has been a rapid and massive influx of Muslim immigrants into Australia over the last 20 years.

It seems strange that most of it was on John Howard's watch - a conservative.

The number of Muslims in Australia went from 220,000 in 1996 to 340,000 in 2006. There were only 22,000 in 1971.

454 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:41:58am

re: #452 Hateful Hater

thought you were leaving?

455 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:42:17am
456 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:42:43am

re: #435 Neo Con since 9-11

You're a Mexican vampire who has just feasted on the blood of a poor Lebanese person and your girl friend is the daughter of a genocidal Serbian soldier. This sounds like a lovely couple.

chupalcabra?

457 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:43:01am
458 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:43:25am

re: #442 Outrider

You keep saying good bye and you keep coming back. You're worse than a cold sore.

forgotten but not gone, eh?

/white smoke

459 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:43:29am

great. a link to a blog.

460 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:44:04am

re: #456 redc1c4

chupalcabra?

loup garou?

461 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:44:30am

re: #444 Hateful Hater

Wow - I thought that most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi? Now you're telling me they were Albanian Muslims?

Eek! How deceived we've all been!

/

462 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:44:33am

Does it strike anyone else to be less than coincidence that Charles posts dialog from one of the worst movies of all time that has a plot about invasion of Earth by flying saucers from outer space and then we have Torrent's Boy spouting off space alien genesis theories and invasion of the US?

463 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:45:27am

re: #462 FurryOldGuyJeans

Does it strike anyone else to be less than coincidence that Charles posts dialog from one of the worst movies of all time that has a plot about invasion of Earth by flying saucers from outer space and then we have Torrent's Boy spouting off space alien genesis theories and invasion of the US?

Are you saying he was conjured?

464 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:45:28am

Good grief! I haven't had coffee yet!

/was there an open registration that I missed?

pink freud! Are you still here?

465 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:45:30am

re: #456 redc1c4

chupalcabra?

/run, litttle chupalcabra, run

466 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:46:06am

re: #451 Killian Bundy

/it couldn't find a linky if you tattooed it backward on it's forehead so it could read it in a mirror

you really think it can read?

467 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:46:16am

YESSS! PINK! :-) :-) :-)

468 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:46:40am
469 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:46:42am

re: #464 littleoldlady

Good grief! I haven't had coffee yet!

/was there an open registration that I missed?

pink freud! Are you still here?

(((LADY))) (_)? Here's your coffee...:)

470 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:46:53am

re: #447 Killian Bundy

/got the upding right there

That's a legal term, doncha know.

;-)

471 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:47:09am

DustyVet! :-)

472 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:47:21am

re: #464 littleoldlady

Good grief! I haven't had coffee yet!

/was there an open registration that I missed?

pink freud! Are you still here?

Ahhh darlin! I've been waiting on you!

Helllo! Dayum good to see you!

I heard a caller on Rush yesterday that was a dead ringer for you. Wow, I thought ...has littleoldlady moved to Bawston?

473 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:47:29am

re: #461 Intrepid

Wow - I thought that most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi? Now you're telling me they were Albanian Muslims?

Eek! How deceived we've all been!

/

Next he will tell us that 9/11 was really just a plot by our Zionist Masters to infiltrate us with Albanian and Lebanese and there were no actual hijacked planes.

474 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:47:57am

re: #464 littleoldlady

Good grief! I haven't had coffee yet!

/was there an open registration that I missed?

pink freud! Are you still here?

/passes LoL a beer...

i just went out and got a few beers and potted a rat off the back fence.
unfotunately it wasn't *our* rat...

where's a monitor lizard when you need one?

475 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:48:32am

re: #463 pink freud

Are you saying he was conjured?

Conjured, nah. Panspermiaed? Definitely. ;)

476 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:48:58am

{Littleoldlady} long time no see. and just in time too, we needed some fruit cup to go with this gamey buttocks

477 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:49:14am

re: #468 Hateful Hater

hopefully, someone will put you to sleep first.

someone wake up Blue and have him get the charcoal started...

/gamey buttocks for all!

478 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:49:33am
479 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:49:40am

Hey, ploome! Still think this guy has all his oars in the water?

480 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:50:16am
481 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:51:07am

re: #480 Hateful Hater

I support Zionists you asshole.

I thank you for the compliment, sir. :)

482 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:51:08am

re: #442 Outrider

You keep saying good bye and you keep coming back. You're worse than a cold sore.

Even though it tries to leave, clearly it misses us...

483 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:51:22am

re: #455 Hateful Hater

Read it and weep, Nador.

Those who are a waste of life
Use up air that others could breathe
Human leaches all around
Superior is what they believe

Fake is the word you represent
Your existence on earth I resent
At the cost of others you get by
Each word that you speak is a lie

Low life - That's all you'll ever be
Lies in effect - That's what you like to see

Pretty good description of your stalker blog, you pathetic low life.

484 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:51:28am

re: #453 Crux Australis

don't think i'd go there if'n i were you... least ways not now, and not tied to him.

the stick has a large "danger close" area

485 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:51:52am

re: #482 Fenway_Nation

Even though it tries to leave, clearly it misses us...

I figure his momma has him on restriction and he couldn't go out with his buds tonight.

486 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:52:02am

re: #475 FurryOldGuyJeans

Conjured, nah. Panspermiaed? Definitely. ;)

Good word! You sent me to the Encyclopedia of Astrobiology for that lookup.

487 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:52:08am

re: #472 pink freud

"Salty" language and all, eh? ;-)

/too cold for me in Boston. too cold for me in Philadelphia, for that matter...
//snow (a/k/a White Crud) yesterday... :-(

Listen, the day after the election was really, really bad. That's why I didn't call you back.

/mea culpa :-(

488 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:52:32am

re: #479 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hey, ploome! Still think this guy has all his oars in the water?

only on one side...

helps explain why it's circling the drain.

489 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:52:56am

re: #464 littleoldlady

Good grief! I haven't had coffee yet!

Welcome, littleoldlady! It's good to see you again!

490 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:53:39am
491 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:53:42am

re: #478 Hateful Hater

Albanians are Muslim and 5 of the 19 Hijackers are veterans of the Balkan wars.

/just don't ask me for anything remotely resembling a linky because my Ex-Lax hasn't kicked in yet

492 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:53:45am

re: #486 pink freud

Good word! You sent me to the Encyclopedia of Astrobiology for that lookup.

Then my being here is not a total loss. Teaching you a new word AND getting insults from a totally fucking clueless shit for brains. I am just so BLESSED! ;)

493 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:53:54am

re: #452 Hateful Hater

It's Culture not Race that defines America. Islam isn't compatible.

Says who? You?

Where else are Muslims to go and find even the very taste of freedom?

494 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:53:59am

re: #474 redc1c4

red! :-)

Beer? I don't drink beer when I'm awake!

Neo Con since 9-11! :-)

I've been here. Where've you been?!

495 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:54:08am

re: #484 redc1c4

don't think i'd go there if'n i were you... least ways not now, and not tied to him.

the stick has a large "danger close" area

so I'll hold my tongue for now.

496 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:54:15am

re: #485 Outrider

I figure his momma has him on restriction and he couldn't go out with his buds tonight.

more likely she's low on milk, and the larger pups pushed him away.

it's the hunger pains that make him lash out. %-)

497 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:54:44am

re: #453 Crux Australis

Yet do you have Sharia law there in Oz?

498 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:55:07am

re: #492 FurryOldGuyJeans

Then my being here is not a total loss. Teaching you a new word AND getting insults from a totally fucking clueless shit for brains. I am just so BLESSED! ;)

Made your day eh Furry...:)

499 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:55:13am

re: #490 Hateful Hater

proving the old saying true that you shall know the truth and the truth shall drive you mad... %-)

500 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:55:16am

re: #487 littleoldlady

Yes. I know.

I'm still on a self- imposed television news restriction. I've watched more movies since November 4th than I have in the last ten years.

501 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:55:27am

gmsc! :-)

It's good to be here.

/I think...

502 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:56:08am

re: #498 Dustyvet

Made your day eh Furry...:)

I am just so easy to please. ;)

503 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:56:18am

re: #500 pink freud

I've rediscovered HGTV.

/blood pressure is in MUCH better shape! ;-)

504 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:57:05am
505 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:57:14am
506 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:57:19am

re: #501 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

It's good to be here.

/I think...

Just ignore the attention seeker, and you'll be OK.

I like the new cute/fruit avatar!

507 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:57:55am

re: #500 pink freud

Yes. I know.

I'm still on a self- imposed television news restriction. I've watched more movies since November 4th than I have in the last ten years.

I'm watching Forbidden Planet for the 20th time...:) Since November 4th.


And for some reason, I'm craving creamed chipped beef on toast...;p

508 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:58:06am

re: #503 littleoldlady

I've rediscovered HGTV.

/blood pressure is in MUCH better shape! ;-)

i've re-rediscovered alcohol...

consistency is the key to a happy life.
(that, and keeping the wife happy. %-)

509 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:58:21am

re: #504 Hateful Hater

Sarcasm is not your strong suit, is it?

Are your eyes naturally brown, or what? ;)

510 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:58:34am
511 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:59:05am

re: #506 gmsc

The avatar was a gift from Slumbering! I'm liking it a lot, myself.

/beats the heck out of the little kid kissing the hog...

512 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:59:10am

re: #478 Hateful Hater

I'll tell you what I want in America - and it doesn't include the likes of you.

513 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:59:18am
514 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:59:33am

re: #504 Hateful Hater

(snip), that Israel is going nowhere.


and with *that* plan, you'd be right...

you're just an anti-semetic Moby, aren't you?

515 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:59:55am

re: #494 littleoldlady

This is way past my bed time, nowdays. That's why I haven't seen you. I'm only still here trying to snatch a few pieces of buttock meat from the troll-b-que

516 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:00:02am

re: #503 littleoldlady

I am glad your blood pressure has gotten a grip. Mine has also. In retrospect, I clearly see how I got way too close to the whole election debacle. Even now, the Norm Coleman/Franken thing sets me off. I can't watch any longer.

517 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

518 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:01:13am

re: #517 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Holding out for creamed chipped beef on toast...:)

519 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:01:13am
520 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:01:21am

re: #515 Neo Con since 9-11

This is way past my bed time, nowdays. That's why I haven't seen you. I'm only still here trying to snatch a few pieces of buttock meat from the troll-b-que

You guys will eat (or in the case of redc1c4 - DRINK!) anything, won't you? ;-)

521 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:01:23am
522 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:01:28am

Garlic fruitcup?

523 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:02:08am
524 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:02:34am

re: #510 Hateful Hater

Let them fix their own countries. Why do you support Jihad? Do you support Hamas and Hezbollah as well?

You quit beating your wife yet? Do you still masturbate in the closet?

525 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:02:36am

re: #522 Fenway_Nation

Garlic fruitcup?

Yeah it fends off vampires and trolls...:)

526 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:02:44am

re: #519 Outrider

Why not both a fool and an idiot. Trolls and mobys can multi-task, can't they? ;)

527 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:03:06am

re: #507 Dustyvet

Seems like that was a pivotal day for many of us. I am thankful for LGF ...although I don't post much I read a LOT, and I attribute the maintaining of my sanity in large part to this place. I appreciate it, folks.

528 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:03:11am

re: #516 pink freud

I turn on Fox to check the stock market (a/k/a roller coaster) a couple of times a day. That's it.

/oh yeah, that's helping a lot.
//NOT. :-/

So anyway, how's by you?

529 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:03:28am

re: #524 Outrider

You quit beating your wife yet? Do you still masturbate in the closet?

Yes, and yes. Oh wait, you weren't asking me? ;)

530 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:03:39am
531 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:03:53am

re: #526 FurryOldGuyJeans

Why not both a fool and an idiot. Trolls and mobys can multi-task, can't they? ;)

I think he's just a little excited and histrionic.

532 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:04:23am

re: #518 Dustyvet

Holding out for creamed chipped beef on toast...:)

Not something I usually put on the buffet so you may have to wait awhile.

/how's about a little whitefish salad on a bagel? ;-)

533 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:04:48am

re: #523 Moe Katz

Eek. You really want a genocide?

Nah, it just wants the stick.

/no way it survives a half hour after Charles wakes up

534 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:05:53am

re: #510 Hateful Hater

Do you think Prosac is better than Librium? Which has been more effective for you? Obviously you're not taking either at this point.

Your hatred is tiresome. Find a cure for that, will ya?

535 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:05:56am

re: #526 FurryOldGuyJeans

Why not both a fool and an idiot. Trolls and mobys can multi-task, can't they? ;)

that could be a silly assumption. ;-)>

536 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:05:56am

re: #532 littleoldlady

Not something I usually put on the buffet so you may have to wait awhile.

/how's about a little whitefish salad on a bagel? ;-)

Yeah bagel...TY...:)

537 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:05:58am

re: #520 littleoldlady

You guys will eat (or in the case of redc1c4 - DRINK!) anything, won't you? ;-)

There's a very dirty joke in there but being the consummate, although intoxicated gentleman, I won't make it.

538 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:05:59am

re: #531 Moe Katz

I think he's just a little excited and histrionic.

I have to disagree, courteously. He has already "outed" himself as a brave infiltrator from the truth-seeking LGF2.

539 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:06:00am

Fenway! :-)

As someone who puts garlic on almost everything, all I can say is...

EWWW!

540 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:06:08am

re: #533 Killian Bundy

Nah, it just wants the stick.

/no way it survives a half hour after Charles wakes up

Should the alarms be sounded?

541 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:07:45am

re: #518 Dustyvet

Holding out for creamed chipped beef on toast...:)

Oooh, that sounds nice! I made homemade chicken noodle soup tonight, you're welcome to a bowl of that!

/plus crackers!

542 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:07:52am

re: #520 littleoldlady

You guys will eat (or in the case of redc1c4 - DRINK!) anything, won't you? ;-)

that's why G*d issued Tabasco...

543 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:08:01am

re: #528 littleoldlady

I turn on Fox to check the stock market (a/k/a roller coaster) a couple of times a day. That's it.

/oh yeah, that's helping a lot.
//NOT. :-/

So anyway, how's by you?

There's a good post here concerning the time that 0bama's campaign really made a breakout in the Intrade market vs. the timing of the stock market drop. It's worth a read.

(h/t Instapundit)

544 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:08:03am
545 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:08:05am

re: #497 Intrepid

Yet do you have Sharia law there in Oz?

No, we are a few steps before that fortunately. We are about half way between Europe and the US on the way to Dar al Islam.

How would Sharia bypass the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution?

546 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:08:08am

re: #540 Moe Katz

Should the alarms be sounded?

/it's going to happen, the report button has been getting quite the workout

547 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:08:45am

re: #538 FurryOldGuyJeans

Sorry, I was so busy laughing my ass off trying to keep a straight face while I typed my previous post. ;)

548 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:08:57am

re: #490 Hateful Hater

Yeah, I had you pegged quick enough, douchebag. I won't link to your pathetic, parasitic site; those who know your low life ass can find that sad, uninspired garbage-site for themselves, but here is your latest post there:

The true nature of LGF has been exposed. I have infiltrated their ranks and brought up the fact that Muslims are coming here in increasing numbers. I explained that we should give prefernces to Arabic Speaking Christians over Muslims. They got angry called me a Nazi and couldn’t refute any of my points.

You are a sad, tiny little person. You obsess over LGF, your content is leeched almost entirely from LGF, you and your hate filled minions do nothing but spew falsehoods and bile about LGF. You steal content from a better blogger, and have the hubris to mock it while doing so. Get a life, you pathetic, craven punk. You are a low life, several steps below the stray dog that eats it's own vomit.

549 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:10:25am

re: #530 Hateful Hater

Holy crap, you're nuts. Seriously mentally disturbed.

550 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:10:34am

re: #524 Outrider

You quit beating your wife yet? Do you still masturbate in the closet?

could you get my wife to stop beating me?

/henpecked %-)

551 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:10:43am

re: #542 redc1c4

that's why G*d issued Tabasco...

now in cute little itty bitty bottles in the rations already.

552 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:10:49am

re: #537 Neo Con since 9-11

There's a very dirty joke in there but being the consummate, although intoxicated gentleman, I won't make it.

HEY! There are ladies in the room!

/some of us with very vivid imaginations... ;-)

553 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:10:57am

re: #548 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, I had you pegged quick enough, douchebag. I won't link to your pathetic, parasitic site; those who know your low life ass can find that sad, uninspired garbage-site for themselves, but here is your latest post there:

You are a sad, tiny little person. You obsess over LGF, your content is leeched almost entirely from LGF, you and your hate filled minions do nothing but spew falsehoods and bile about LGF. You steal content from a better blogger, and have the hubris to mock it while doing so. Get a life, you pathetic, craven punk. You are a low life, several steps below the stray dog that eats it's own vomit.

SB, don't mince words...tell us what you really think. ;)

554 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:11:34am

re: #528 littleoldlady

Well, I watch gold on monex, I won't even go to fox for market news. (up 54.00 bux today!)

Me? Wrapping up one more semester. I complete my course work (that darn-tooting stat class finally) in one week and then off until January 10 or so, looking at upcoming internship.

My wild unfettered daughter is driving in next Wednesday to spend Thanksgiving with her old ma and I am thrilled!

Stable, conservative-values just-turned-nineteen year old son starts college in January. (We voted together for the first time ...very cool.) Where has all the time gone!?

Other than that, life is glorious. :-)

/30 degrees tonite!

555 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:11:35am

re: #532 littleoldlady

Not something I usually put on the buffet so you may have to wait awhile.

/how's about a little whitefish salad on a bagel? ;-)

sorry: SOS sounds much more appealing...

556 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:12:11am

re: #532 littleoldlady

Not something I usually put on the buffet so you may have to wait awhile.

/how's about a little whitefish salad on a bagel? ;-)

re: #539 littleoldlady

Speaking of which, littleoldlady, you have some competition here in Vegas! At the Boulder Station Casino, they're having a buffet giveaway!

Don't worry, though. Your fruitcups are still made with more love than anything in their buffet!

/And there's no servings of cute!

557 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:12:27am
558 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:12:56am

re: #550 redc1c4

could you get my wife to stop beating me?

/henpecked %-)

has ~she~ tried maturbation? might distract her from beating you? ;-)>

559 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:13:24am

re: #543 gmsc

Yeah. I know. That chart says it all.

/verybigsigh :-/

560 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:13:39am

re: #511 littleoldlady

{LoL} It looks good on you.

/Hey, that pig-licking kid is adorable!

561 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:14:07am

re: #557 Hateful Hater

Playing video games doesn't count as real combat, you know. ;)

562 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:14:13am

re: #545 Crux Australis

No, we are a few steps before that fortunately. We are about half way between Europe and the US on the way to Dar al Islam.

How would Sharia bypass the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution?

Can't. First amendment is "no establishment". Government cannot establish a religion nor can it establish religious law.

563 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:14:13am
564 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:14:57am

re: #558 Outrider

has ~she~ tried maturbation? might distract her from beating you? ;-)>

Masturbation might only encourage her.

565 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:16:02am

re: #540 Moe Katz

Should the alarms be sounded?

Sounding the alarms!
;)

566 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:16:29am
567 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:16:40am

Karma Score-keeping Update 2:

Hateful Hater

Karma: -192
Registered since: Nov 17, 2008 at 6:44 pm

No. of comments posted: 44

Ooooh, what an intriguing ratio! ;)

568 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:16:56am

re: #562 Intrepid

Can't. First amendment is "no establishment". Government cannot establish a religion nor can it establish religious law.

/or prevent religion, that's the part most people skip over

569 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:17:14am

re: #554 pink freud

Other than that, life is glorious. :-)

So good to get GOOD NEWS for a change!

/I hope you mean it! How're you feeling?

MNTS has been home a lot. The benefit of her being at school only a few miles from here is that I don't get to miss her that much.

/also a downside, but don't tell her I said so. ;-)

570 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:17:19am

Let's see, unsubstantiated claims of combat prowess in an anonymous online post.

Well, I'm convinced of it's manliness.

571 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:18:08am

re: #567 FurryOldGuyJeans

Karma Score-keeping Update 2:

Hateful Hater

Karma: -192
Registered since: Nov 17, 2008 at 6:44 pm

No. of comments posted: 44

Ooooh, what an intriguing ratio! ;)

/probably best to stop quoting it, more work for Charles

572 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:18:44am

re: #556 gmsc

I'm a big fan of casino buffets! Probably the best reason to visit Atlantic City.

573 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:18:45am

re: #541 Intrepid

Oooh, that sounds nice! I made homemade chicken noodle soup tonight, you're welcome to a bowl of that!

/plus crackers!

Oh neat, yes please...:)

574 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:18:51am

re: #562 Intrepid

Can't. First amendment is "no establishment". Government cannot establish a religion nor can it establish religious law.

Same as Australia:

Australian Constitution - Section 116 - Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion -

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion...

575 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:19:32am

Hey, ploome! You still willing to say this HH dud is credible?

(I was going to type dude and dropped the e accidentally...appropriate, I must say)

576 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:19:47am

re: #560 Slumbering Behemoth

{LoL} It looks good on you.

/Hey, that pig-licking kid is adorable!

You're (obviously) not a mother.

;-)

577 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:19:52am

*yawn*

morning lizards! Lordy, a bit early for a troll, yes?

578 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:20:13am

re: #569 littleoldlady

We need to have a long talk and catch up. Healthwise, if I can just stay clear of the gods of the medical profession I will live a lot longer. Whadda bunch of friggin idiots.

579 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:20:18am

re: #577 wahabicorridor

*yawn*

morning lizards! Lordy, a bit early for a troll, yes?

or late? ;-)>

580 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:21:00am

And happy Victory in Iraq day too!

581 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:21:04am

re: #577 wahabicorridor

*yawn*

morning lizards! Lordy, a bit early for a troll, yes?

Troll Flambe anyone...:)

582 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:21:09am

re: #553 FurryOldGuyJeans

SB, don't mince words...tell us what you really think. ;)

Right then: Nador is a punk. A total hack that wouldn't recognize an original thought if it jumped halfway up his worn out ass.

/how was that?

583 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:21:21am

re: #577 wahabicorridor

*yawn*

morning lizards! Lordy, a bit early for a troll, yes?

It's never too early or late for a troll. ;)

584 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:22:07am

re: #580 wahabicorridor

And happy Victory in Iraq day too!

You're right! It's the 22nd.

585 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:22:10am

re: #582 Slumbering Behemoth

Right then: Nador is a punk. A total hack that wouldn't recognize an original thought if it jumped halfway up his worn out ass.

/how was that?

You're still mincing your words. ;)

586 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:22:14am

re: #578 pink freud

I owe you a call. In the throes of preparing for a big crowd on Thursday.

Right afterwards. I promise! :-)

/yeah, doctors can kill you... :-(

587 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:23:08am

re: #542 redc1c4

that's why G*d issued Tabasco...


Gamey troll buttocks?

588 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:23:14am

re: #557 Hateful Hater

hey punk! Get Off My Lawn!

589 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:24:04am

re: #582 Slumbering Behemoth

Right then: Nador is a punk. A total hack that wouldn't recognize an original thought if it jumped halfway up his worn out ass.

/how was that?

a miserable JROTC dropout because it was too tough. But probably plays one hell of a game of World of WarCraft thereby qualifying in his mind as a combat vet... or almost.

590 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:24:36am

re: #576 littleoldlady

You're (obviously) not a mother.

;-)

Heh, no. I am a brother (no ethnicity implied, I simply have a sibling). And I can tell you with a fair amount of confidence that I could have just as easily been that pig licking kid if I lived anywhere near a pig farm at that age.

591 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:25:00am

re: #566 Outrider

paper tiger. you don't even know me you fu**ing leg! What combat you seen? I mean, other than a movie?

And what in the hell is the paramilitary? Someone that can't hack the discipline in the Army or the Corps?

objection:
as a Leg in good standing, it's an insult to have him called that term.

592 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:25:14am

re: #574 Crux Australis

Same as Australia:

Australian Constitution - Section 116 - Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion -

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion...

So you guys are still constitutionally safe, as long as you've got some strict constructionalists in your parliament.

What's your ratio now - liberal to conservative?

593 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:25:39am

re: #586 littleoldlady

I owe you a call. In the throes of preparing for a big crowd on Thursday.

Right afterwards. I promise! :-)

/yeah, doctors can kill you... :-(

I would enjoy that. :-)

I met reine, had a long relaxing late lunch on an outdoor deck in 70 degree weather, overlooking a slow lazy stream right on the edge of the Atchafalaya Swamp. Most enjoyable! ...and an elegant lady.

594 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:25:50am

re: #586 littleoldlady

/yeah, doctors can kill you... :-(

I hear that so many people die in hospitals because they're germ free!

/I heard it on the View, so I know it's true!

595 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:25:59am

re: #591 redc1c4

objection:
as a Leg in good standing, it's an insult to have him called that term.

Objection Sustained! ;)

596 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:26:25am

wahabi! :-)

This is the new morning drill, evidently. Trolls for Breakfast.

/no rachmones for coffee-challenged littleoldladies... ;-/

597 Intrepid  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:27:27am

re: #580 wahabicorridor

And happy Victory in Iraq day too!

WE WON! YAY! GO TROOPS!

598 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:27:41am

re: #594 gmsc


/I heard it on the View, so I know it's true!

Don't watch that show, gmsc ...it's bad for your health.

599 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:27:46am

re: #557 Hateful Hater


I've probably seen more episodes of "Combat" than you, you paper pusher.

edited for accuracy and brevity

/white smoke

600 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:27:58am

re: #593 pink freud

70 degrees!

/verybigsob!

601 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:28:17am

re: #591 redc1c4

objection:
as a Leg in good standing, it's an insult to have him called that term.

Weeell. I guess you are right. I should have called him a stinking Fu**ing leg. That would provide a distinction between the legs in good standing. lol ;-)>

Yellow star cluster with a green smoke toss earlier. (that correct?)

602 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:28:45am

re: #589 Outrider

Heh. Speaking of Warcraft, I once knew a person who thought that playing a good game of Warcraft (the first one) somehow meant that they would make a great military commander. Some people take fantasy WAY too far.

603 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:30:26am

re: #600 littleoldlady

70 degrees!

/verybigsob!

My way-too-large collection of rare cane begonias are all blooming their sweet little behinds off ...all under protective cover outside tonight.

If I get really lucky, they will bloom until January.

604 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:30:26am

re: #601 Outrider

Weeell. I guess you are right. I should have called him a stinking Fu**ing leg. That would provide a distinction between the legs in good standing. lol ;-)>

Yellow star cluster with a green smoke toss earlier. (that correct?)

The 418th Underwater Mess Kit Repair team...

605 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:30:36am

re: #580 wahabicorridor

And happy Victory in Iraq day too!

WooT!

606 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:31:33am

re: #602 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. Speaking of Warcraft, I once knew a person who thought that playing a good game of Warcraft (the first one) somehow meant that they would make a great military commander. Some people take fantasy WAY too far.

/come on now

607 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:31:55am

Is it too early to hope the troll's meds have kicked in and the sugar high crashed?

608 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:31:59am

re: #601 Outrider

Weeell. I guess you are right. I should have called him a stinking Fu**ing leg. That would provide a distinction between the legs in good standing. lol ;-)>

Yellow star cluster with a green smoke toss earlier. (that correct?)

i'm just a sorry ass career SP4, Top, why you askin' me?

/white smoke

609 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:32:54am

re: #603 pink freud

GAH! Way to make me jealous! :-/

610 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:33:30am

re: #602 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. Speaking of Warcraft, I once knew a person who thought that playing a good game of Warcraft (the first one) somehow meant that they would make a great military commander. Some people take fantasy WAY too far.

heh. Got a neighbor kid tried to convince me of the same thing.

611 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:33:40am

re: #596 littleoldlady


good morning, sweetie - buffet is yummie, thank you!

and a little morning humor

Maybe tonight when you're sleeping...

612 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:33:51am

Goodnight folks, it's been a pleasure to spend the evening with all of you (well, all except for you, HH, you add some serious ugly to this room).

Littleoldlady, my friend, don't be a stranger, and you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

613 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:34:31am

re: #600 littleoldlady

70 degrees!

/verybigsob!

supposed to be 80's here this weekend, but without last weekends winds/fires... then allegedly a skosh of rain later in the week

(fractions of an inch, max.)

614 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:34:59am

re: #612 pink freud

Later freud in a slip ;)

615 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:35:14am

re: #608 redc1c4

i'm just a sorry ass career SP4, Top, why you askin' me?

/white smoke

using your SOI for the smoke/flares. ;-)>

616 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:35:55am

re: #612 pink freud

pink! :-) You too! Hug the kids for me and have a great holiday!

617 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:35:57am

re: #612 pink freud

Goodnight folks, it's been a pleasure to spend the evening with all of you (well, all except for you, HH, you add some serious ugly to this room).

Littleoldlady, my friend, don't be a stranger, and you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

serious ugly? lol ;-)>

618 pink freud  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:36:27am

re: #614 FurryOldGuyJeans

Later freud in a slip ;)

Later, old dude with fur.

:-)

619 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:37:17am

re: #615 Outrider

using your SOI for the smoke/flares. ;-)>

so you've got the rank but i'm the SME?

typical: stuck with all the w*rk & none of the credit.

620 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:37:32am

re: #611 wahabicorridor

Bwahaha!

re: #613 redc1c4

supposed to be 80's here this weekend, but without last weekends winds/fires... then allegedly a skosh of rain later in the week

(fractions of an inch, max.)

SHADDUP, will you?
/sheesh. I thought you were my friend!

621 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:39:54am

re: #620 littleoldlady

Bwahaha!

re: #613 redc1c4

SHADDUP, will you?
/sheesh. I thought you were my friend!

If I were to get rid of all my pain-in-the-ass friends I wouldn't have any friends. ;)

622 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:40:47am

re: #592 Intrepid

So you guys are still constitutionally safe, as long as you've got some strict constructionalists in your parliament.

What's your ratio now - liberal to conservative?

I think we are safe now, even though Labor is in the majority and forms the Government Kevin Rudd is about the most conservative Labor Prime Minister that Australia has ever had. He is very much a social and constitutional conservative. And if it means anything these days he is a devout Christian. Imagine if someone in the "religious right" in the US ran for President as a Democrat.

623 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:42:16am

re: #622 Crux Australis

Imagine if someone in the "religious right" in the US ran for President as a Democrat.

Lots of Blue states would become red from all the exploding heads. ;)

624 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:42:30am

Al-Qaeda terrorist taught stand-up comedy at top-security prison

Zia Ul Haq, who was involved in the 'Gas Limos Project' to bomb London, was reportedly enrolled on an eight-day comedy workshop at HMP Whitemoor.

He was among 18 prisoners, including murderers, who were given lessons in stand-up, comic drama, improvisation and scriptwriting.

Having completed the £8,000 course they were to have received a certificate and staged a performance for fellow inmates and guards at the Category A prison in Cambridgeshire.

Well, why not?

/I'm funny how?

625 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:43:12am

FurryOldGuyJeans! :-)

Funny. My daughter told me last week that she's doing just that - getting rid of all her pain-in-the-ass friends.

My question to her was, "Who's left?"

626 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:43:39am

re: #624 Killian Bundy

Al-Qaeda terrorist taught stand-up comedy at top-security prison

Well, why not?

/I'm funny how?

This is an Onion bit, isn't it?

627 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:43:49am

re: #622 Crux Australis

I still think Rudd is a wanker.

Now for a bit of enhancement to Charles' meme for this thread.

It was a cloudless night and the police helicopter was carrying out surveillance over Birmingham when the attention suddenly switched from ground to sky.
Beside it was a small aircraft beaming out continuous blue-green lights.
It came within almost 300ft, forcing the pilot to swerve out of its path, and appeared to circle the helicopter in a cheeky gesture before flying off.
Initially the pilot and two police observers dismissed the near miss at 1,500ft as a close encounter with a model plane.

But despite searching the area with a thermal camera, the pilot was unable to find any signs of radio-controlled activity.
The British Model Flying Association
also dismissed this possibility, saying the mystery object was flying too high to be a miniature craft, while gliders, kites, balloons and a laser light show were further excluded from the possibilities.
All of which leads UFO experts to believe that alien forces were at work.

628 Outrider  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:44:38am

time to pull pitch here. Looks like HH blew the AO anyway. Night all

629 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:45:13am

re: #606 Killian Bundy

re: #610 Outrider

Sad fact: this person was not a kid, but a full grown adult in her late twenties. Now I am no combat hardened badass, but I do know that being good at a video game has nothing to do with real world ability.

/And there is no such video game titled "Tom Clancy's Fat Stoner on a Couch"

630 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:46:42am

re: #629 Slumbering Behemoth

/And there is no such video game titled "Tom Clancy's Fat Stoner on a Couch"

Hmmm, the marketing potential. ;)

631 redc1c4  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:47:21am

re: #628 Outrider

time to pull pitch here. Looks like HH blew the AO anyway. Night all

quiter...

632 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:49:00am

If you're of a mind, check out that stalker blog. HH is just the pathetic boob that I though he was.

/Failblog II would have been a better name.

633 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:51:06am

re: #632 Slumbering Behemoth

If you're of a mind, check out that stalker blog. HH is just the pathetic boob that I though he was.

/Failblog II would have been a better name.

Thanks, but no thanks. I am not up-to-date on all my shots. ;)

634 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:51:17am

re: #629 Slumbering Behemoth

but I do know that being good at a video game has nothing to do with real world ability.

No, but COD4, does expose you to basic modern weapons and military tactics.

/and it's fun

635 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:52:21am

Two years after Alexander Litvinenko died in agony at a London hospital, the man accused of murdering him with radioactive poison is prepared to come to Britain to be questioned by Scotland Yard.

Yeah, right. Check out that get-up he's wearing. Al Capone redux.

636 abu_garcia  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:53:12am

Charles doesn't have a link category for irony but...

Carter Refused Entry Into Zimbabwe

Gee, does Jimmah think there might be a problem there? Maybe it has something to do with the thug he installed as "president"?

637 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:54:33am

re: #636 abu_garcia

Charles doesn't have a link category for irony but...

Carter Refused Entry Into Zimbabwe

Gee, does Jimmah think there might be a problem there? Maybe it has something to do with the thug he installed as "president"?

It's obviously Bush's fault, DUH! ;)

638 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:55:33am

re: #630 FurryOldGuyJeans

I totally stole that line from this comedian.

639 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:58:29am

*snore* *mumble* *snore*

640 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:59:26am

re: #636 abu_garcia

Crimeny. Let him in. Just don't let him out.

641 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:01:20am

re: #635 wahabicorridor

He needs a hat.

642 abu_garcia  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:01:30am

re: #640 wahabicorridor

THAT would be justice served!

643 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:02:36am

re: #642 abu_garcia

THAT would be justice served!

With a nice chianti and some fava beans! ;)

644 abu_garcia  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:06:01am

re: #643 FurryOldGuyJeans

LOL, In my mind I'm making that noise he made thru the bars, but I have no idea how to type it.

645 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:06:59am

re: #641 littleoldlady

You know, I love hats. I wish they'd come back. Mom wanted to be a milliner (sp?). Hubby is bald and because of his melanoma must always wear a hat when outside. His 'dress' hat is a very cool Panama.

646 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:07:36am

G'nite Lizards, sleep well. Tomorrow is Saturday, sleep in.

647 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:11:22am

re: #645 wahabicorridor

You know, I love hats. I wish they'd come back. Mom wanted to be a milliner (sp?). Hubby is bald and because of his melanoma must always wear a hat when outside. His 'dress' hat is a very cool Panama.

Hats aren't in?!

/nobody told me! :-(

My aunt WAS actually trained as a milliner (in Europe). There's really only two kinds of people in the world. Hat people and non-hat people. Hail, fellow hat person! :-)

648 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:12:44am

re: #647 littleoldlady

Guess who else started out as a milliner - Coco Chanel

649 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:12:59am

re: #647 littleoldlady

Hats aren't in?!

/nobody told me! :-(

My aunt WAS actually trained as a milliner (in Europe). There's really only two kinds of people in the world. Hat people and non-hat people. Hail, fellow hat person! :-)

Hatiquette is so sadly lacking today. ;)

650 coquimbojoe  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:13:26am

Good morning, lizards!

651 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:14:11am

re: #650 coquimbojoe

Good morning, lizards!

Yeah, you say that now, but what about tomorrow? ;)

652 coquimbojoe  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:16:37am

re: #651 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yeah, you say that now, but what about tomorrow? ;)

Tomorrow, I sleep...

653 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:17:25am

re: #652 coquimbojoe

Tomorrow, I sleep...

You get all the breaks. ;)

654 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:19:25am

re: #646 Slumbering Behemoth

SB where are you - it:s Saturday here (east coast US)

655 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:22:22am

re: #648 wahabicorridor

Over 40 years ago (and I HATE being able to say that! ;-) my aunt, my mom, and various sisters (all formally trained in Europe) opened a little business, ostensibly to do alterations, but my aunt ended up "designing" custom garments for some people. They got too successful (the husbands complained about dinner not being on the table in time), sold out, and took the money and all had glorious Florida vacations.

I had fabulous clothes when I was a kid. Unique. Perfectly fitting. You just can't buy that stuff off the racks. Of course, it embarrassed me to have "homemade" clothes, but when I finally got old enough to really appreciate what I was getting, my aunts and mom got "too tired and impatient" to sew anymore. :-(

Meanwhile, my house is full of old Singer treadle machines...

656 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:22:45am

joe! :-)

657 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:26:43am

re: #655 littleoldlady

Over 40 years ago (and I HATE being able to say that! ;-) my aunt, my mom, and various sisters (all formally trained in Europe) opened a little business, ostensibly to do alterations, but my aunt ended up "designing" custom garments for some people. They got too successful (the husbands complained about dinner not being on the table in time), sold out, and took the money and all had glorious Florida vacations.

I had fabulous clothes when I was a kid. Unique. Perfectly fitting. You just can't buy that stuff off the racks. Of course, it embarrassed me to have "homemade" clothes, but when I finally got old enough to really appreciate what I was getting, my aunts and mom got "too tired and impatient" to sew anymore. :-(

Meanwhile, my house is full of old Singer treadle machines...

I saw a Cash in the Attic episode where these ladies were going to Kenya (?) to take old tredle machines so that the native Kenyans could start home businesses with those. No electricity needed, ya know.

658 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:27:34am

re: #655 littleoldlady

I started to learn to sew about 20 years ago. I loved it. But I really needed a room devoted to it and didn't have it. I am now re-learning cross-stitch.

But those Singer treadles - man, they have to be worth something!

659 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:29:08am

re: #634 Killian Bundy

No, but COD4, does expose you to basic modern weapons and military tactics.

/and it's fun

Should WWI break out again, I'm prepared viz Red Baron to become a Knight of the Sky. All they have to do is bring back the Camel, Triplane, and Albatross D7.

Till then, I'm pretty useles, as far as warcraft goes.

660 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:31:40am

re: #636 abu_garcia

Charles doesn't have a link category for irony but...

Carter Refused Entry Into Zimbabwe

Gee, does Jimmah think there might be a problem there? Maybe it has something to do with the thug he installed as "president"?

See there? You can always learn something from our third world brothers.

Now if our State Dept. can only find something to refuse reentry to Jimmuh. Guess that's too much to hope for.

661 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:32:38am

*tap tap*

*blowing into mic*

This thing turned on?

662 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:35:47am

re: #657 razorbacker

You really have to be some kind of sleuth to find parts for those things. And they're HEAVY as all get out!

re: #658 wahabicorridor

I started to learn to sew about 20 years ago. I loved it. But I really needed a room devoted to it and didn't have it. I am now re-learning cross-stitch.

But those Singer treadles - man, they have to be worth something!

Ya see, I never learned. Why should I? "They" sewed for me.

/shortsighted? MOI? ;-)

And the machines are really not worth enough in the antiques market for me to sell off "family heirlooms". :-)

663 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:37:23am

hey razorbacker, what happened to that deer and the shooter that brought it down in your driveway?

664 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:38:49am

Y'all leave me no alternative. Sorry for getting this stuck in your heads, but my daughter used to walk the house singing this.

Shall We Walk Or Take a Dog

I've pretty well done my bad deed for the day.

665 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:39:25am

re: #662 littleoldlady

And the machines are really not worth enough in the antiques market for me to sell off "family heirlooms". :-)

Really? I'm surprised. But you're right - the buggers are heavy. I remember having my heart set on this industrial-type Brother machine that could sew thru 3 levels of wool tweed.

/dream on...

666 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:39:47am

re: #663 wahabicorridor

hey razorbacker, what happened to that deer and the shooter that brought it down in your driveway?

I helped him load the body onto his 4-wheeler and he motored off to where ever he came from.

667 Crusty  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:40:24am
Larry: There you’re wrong, Lieutenant. I’m with the fact the sound is similar, but what about the blinding light?

Lt. Harper: Well haven’t you heard? Many times a saucer hasn’t had a glow, or a light of any kind for that matter.

Larry: That proves it.

Sounds like a typical Hollywood actor/activist interview.

668 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:41:33am

Like Foxworthy says, "If you've ever found someone hunting in your front yard, then you might be a redneck."

669 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:43:01am

re: #664 razorbacker

*smack!*

670 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:43:40am

re: #659 razorbacker

Should WWI break out again, I'm prepared viz Red Baron to become a Knight of the Sky. All they have to do is bring back the Camel, Triplane, and Albatross D7.

Till then, I'm pretty useles, as far as warcraft goes.

Richthofen's War

Fokker Dr.I triplane

/only able to effectively dive the direction of the propeller torque

671 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:44:20am

re: #669 littleoldlady

*smack!*

You don't know the half of it.

There is an entire album of stuff like that. She (daughter) loved it.

Me, not so much.

672 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:44:33am

re: #668 razorbacker

Like Foxworthy says, "If you've ever found someone hunting in your front yard, then you might be a redneck."

Well, it depends what's being hunted. Here in our Leave It To Beaver suburban 'hood, we got us some coyotes.

673 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:45:17am

re: #670 Killian Bundy

Richthofen's War

Fokker Dr.I triplane

/only able to effectively dive the direction of the propeller torque

Easy to get into a spin. Touchy thing. But amazing climb ability.

674 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:46:28am

re: #672 wahabicorridor

Well, it depends what's being hunted. Here in our Leave It To Beaver suburban 'hood, we got us some coyotes.

Cuts down on the stray animal problem. And excess pet population.

675 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:46:38am

re: #671 razorbacker

Oh, man! :-(

/and I thought I had it rough with Barney?!
//which, btw, I'm too kind (and smart) to link to...

676 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:49:54am

re: #674 razorbacker

Cuts down on the stray animal problem. And excess pet population.

Not quite that simple. Last summer The Fat Beagle and I were out for a walk in the meadow. There are woods on the left. TFB stopped and whined. I couldn't see anything. Then one coyote broke cover. Then 3 more.

I picked her up and ran. No small feat, as she's fat and I'm old. I didn't go out without the gun for months. A single animal - ok - a pack - not so much.

677 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:53:11am
678 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:55:00am

Bob?

679 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:55:10am

re: #676 wahabicorridor

Not quite that simple. Last summer The Fat Beagle and I were out for a walk in the meadow. There are woods on the left. TFB stopped and whined. I couldn't see anything. Then one coyote broke cover. Then 3 more.

I picked her up and ran. No small feat, as she's fat and I'm old. I didn't go out without the gun for months. A single animal - ok - a pack - not so much.

You'd likely have been safe. Well, assuming you could outrun The Fat Beagle.

*Dear Lord, I apologize for that right there. Please be with the starving Pygmies in the jungle.)

680 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:56:17am

re: #677 razorbacker

The intranet tubes, wonder things, those tubes.

/what, are you going to exploit bobbins?

681 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 3:58:56am

re: #680 Killian Bundy

/what, are you going to exploit bobbins?

Bobbins, buffins, buffoons. Whatever it takes.

Killian, are any of the Obamanation cabinit picks not lawyers? I asked before, but missed any answer.

Not that there's anything wrong with lawyers, you understand.

682 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:01:16am

re: #679 razorbacker

*WHACK*

683 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:01:25am

re: #681 razorbacker

Bobbins, buffins, buffoons. Whatever it takes.

Killian, are any of the Obamanation cabinit picks not lawyers? I asked before, but missed any answer.

Not that there's anything wrong with lawyers, you understand.

/that's a good question, they are all, so far, the third Clinton term

684 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:02:43am

now this is how you recap a season :)

685 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:02:50am

That was crazy. Was reading the thread topic, got four lines down, and knew the movie.

Plan 9 is American history.

686 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:03:49am

re: #676 wahabicorridor

Not quite that simple. Last summer The Fat Beagle and I were out for a walk in the meadow. There are woods on the left. TFB stopped and whined. I couldn't see anything. Then one coyote broke cover. Then 3 more.

I picked her up and ran. No small feat, as she's fat and I'm old. I didn't go out without the gun for months. A single animal - ok - a pack - not so much.

Strangest thing that I've found wandering my woods was a brace of emus.

They were going to be the 'next big thing' but prices dropped so low that folks just turned them loose.

I'd have shot one, but I didn't know how to clean one, and the wife doesn't know how to cook one, so I let them go.

687 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:06:24am

re: #683 Killian Bundy

/that's a good question, they are all, so far, the third Clinton term

All jokes aside, it could be worse. At least Ayers, et al, will be in the kitchen cabinet, and not in actual positions of power.

As far as we know so far, that is.

688 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:07:15am

re: #686 razorbacker

Emu oil is excellent for the skin!

As for cooking - I'd try a very slow braise at low heat - slow cooker would probably be good.

689 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:09:44am

re: #688 wahabicorridor

Emu oil is excellent for the skin!

I didn't even know enough to know where to erect the derrick, or know where to drill.

Gotta go. False dawn is breaking, so true dawn can't be far behind.

690 littleoldlady  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:11:05am

I have to get moving, too.

/before I fall back asleep in this chair...

Good day, ALL!™

691 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:12:43am

As do I. Hubby is up and the daily rags have arrived.

BBL

692 tappin52  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:17:17am

re: #655 littleoldlady

693 logboy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:19:07am

Morning deer hunters!

694 tappin52  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:20:59am

re: #692 tappin52

I don't know what happened there...I learned to sew on my mother's Singer treadle machine many, many years ago. The machine is still in my sister's house.

695 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:21:58am

re: #693 logboy

Morning deer hunters!

/they're more economically destructive than rats

696 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:22:09am

Good morning LGF.
Elmasry has two sock puppets.

...his pro bono lawyer Faisal Joseph, nor as bullishly charismatic as Khurrum Awan, the front man of the young lawyers, who are popularly known, even, in jest, by themselves, as the "Sock Puppets" because it was widely assumed they were acting on Prof. Elmasry's behalf

Prof. Elmasry said both those men, in their numerous public and media appearances, were always acting "upon my instruction."

Beware the sock puppet!

697 logboy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:22:46am

re: #695 Killian Bundy

/they're more economically destructive than rats

but taste a hell of a lot better.

698 jcbunga  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:22:55am

Victory in Iraq Day

God Bless the Troops

Now for the 'stan

699 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:23:08am

Morning all! I just discovered R-igg. I guess it's a conservative-owned Digg trying to gain ground. I'm highly skeptical of everything, and thought I'd float it out there to see if anyone knows anything.
During the election I became e-tangled with some severely unhinged folks and am in the process of weeding out the complete lunatics from those with good ideas.
I guess I'm busy "introspecting." But this R-igg thing seems like it COULD be useful, if only they wouldn't have so blatantly mocked the title. Perhaps that's where a lot of my skepticism is rooted.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
OT It's cold here!

700 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:24:36am

re: #698 jcbunga

We won in Iraq?

/

701 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:25:53am

Morning Lizards! Figured I'd throw this story out there: Australian Mayor Wins Sexist Award.

Who knew people received awards for that?

702 jcbunga  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:27:18am
703 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:29:55am

re: #697 logboy

but taste a hell of a lot better.

Well, hey.

/don't be so quick to judge

704 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:33:08am

Mornin' folks.
My better half is recovering beautifully from shoulder surgery, everyone is asleep but me (and I should be) but it sure is nice to have a break from taking care of my invalid and 2 sick kids.

how's everyone today?

705 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:35:04am

re: #698 jcbunga

Victory in Iraq Day
God Bless the Troops
Now for the 'stan

It will be a great day when official victory actually and inevitably arrives.
But Wait!

706 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:36:27am

re: #703 Killian Bundy

I'm judging. I can't help it Killian. I'm judging!

707 jcbunga  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:37:29am
708 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:42:39am

re: #704 srb1976

I'm great and thankful that you have this time of serenity!

709 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:43:20am

Squirrels are rats with bushy tails.

710 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:45:22am

Kangaroos are glorified rats with long tails and big feet.

711 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:52:36am

re: #709 Bumr50

Squirrels are rats with bushy tails.


Funny, we don't have a lot of squirrels around here. Lots of other wildlife, but not many squirrels

712 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:57:52am

Good morning Lizards. Buffets going to talk about the bailout on Fox here in a minute.

Real Rancher

713 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:58:29am

re: #707 jcbunga

[Link: www.zombietime.com...]

There are still 140,000+ precious troops there with no significant troop reductions since the "victory".
If the war is really over, then are we ready to admit that the US is now using its troops to occupy Iraq during peacetime? How do we justify that to the troops?
VICTORY SEEMS TO BE NEAR THANKS TO THE MAGNIFICENT TROOPS AND THE PETRAEUS STRATEGY, BUT THE WAR IS NOT OVER YET.
IT AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER.

714 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:00:07am

Our small animals are declining due to an absolute skyrocket in predatory bird populations here around Pittsburgh.
I grew up in a rural area (I'm only 33) and it astounds me that I can go out of my apartment on any given morning and see at least 40 deer and two flocks of turkeys.

715 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:01:32am

re: #712 Rancher

I for one am tired of listening to people talk about the bailout. Buffet's taking a bath, if we're to believe MSM reports (snort).

716 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:04:26am

re: #714 Bumr50

I grew up in rural Iowa, but never eally saw much in the was of local wildlife, the occasional deer (coyotes don't count...they are pests mostly)

We've moved to alabama (been about 8 years now) and I'm just tickled, we have a fox den in our yard, and owl in the barn, even a hawk in one of our trees. I just love it. the rabbits seem to be thriving, but even with all the nut bearing trees on our property, squirrels are few and far between

717 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:04:27am

re: #715 Bumr50

I for one am tired of listening to people talk about the bailout. Buffet's taking a bath, if we're to believe MSM reports (snort).

I am tired of hearing about the bailout(s). Enough is enough. Where the Hell does it end? Next thing you know, college football will reuqest a bailout!

718 JD1962  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:05:15am

re: #710 Crux Australis

Kangaroos are glorified rats with long tails and big feet.

Poor old skippy

719 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:06:38am

re: #713 Spare O'Lake

IT AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER.


Thank you Yogi Berra. Those troops are still doing clean up, back up, and training as well as infrastructure and social building roles. We still needed significant troops to, yes, occupy Germany and Japan after those wars were over, IIRC we still have troops there. Remember there was a hostile Soviet Union next door just as Iraq has a hostile Iran next door. We can however begin to draw down the troops. The real danger here is cutting off funding which could have the same effect as cutting funding to South Vietnam.

Real Rancher

720 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:07:44am

re: #714 Bumr50

Predatory birds? Hawks?

721 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:09:25am

re: #711 srb1976

Funny, we don't have a lot of squirrels around here. Lots of other wildlife, but not many squirrels

Up here in the Great White North we got squirrels comin' out the yin yang - black ones, grey ones, red ones, even white ones.

722 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:10:06am

re: #715 Bumr50

Buffet's taking a bath, if we're to believe MSM reports (snort).


Only if he sells.

723 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:10:09am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine morning?
Dang it Rancher..When is rustler going to get a nic? :)

724 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:10:58am

re: #721 Spare O'Lake

In parts of iowa there is a fine for killing a black squirrel...only the black ones though, any other color is fair game.

725 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:11:51am

re: #714 Bumr50

Our small animals are declining due to an absolute skyrocket in predatory bird populations here around Pittsburgh.

You mean, like this?...

726 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:12:30am

re: #724 srb1976

How cute. Affirmative action for squirrels.

727 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:12:36am

re: #724 srb1976

In parts of iowa there is a fine for killing a black squirrel...only the black ones though, any other color is fair game.

Yes black ones are rare..We have a couple up at the cabin in Wisconsin..

728 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:12:40am

re: #723 HoosierHoops

We thought we had him registered but couldn't retrieve the e-mail. I'll use a different e-mail next time, his seems to have issues, he's lost some other e-mail on his yahoo account. Was he here last night? Was Modgi?

729 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:12:59am

re: #719 Rancher

Thank you Yogi Berra. Those troops are still doing clean up, back up, and training as well as infrastructure and social building roles. We still needed significant troops to, yes, occupy Germany and Japan after those wars were over, IIRC we still have troops there. Remember there was a hostile Soviet Union next door just as Iraq has a hostile Iran next door. We can however begin to draw down the troops. The real danger here is cutting off funding which could have the same effect as cutting funding to South Vietnam.

Real Rancher

You know, reading your comment gave me an intense feeling of
DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN.

730 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:13:12am

re: #720 wahabicorridor

Redtail hawks, peregrine falcons, barn owls, screech owls, and even eagles have been sighted. The falcons seem to love the downtown office buildings. We had a webcam on a nest a couple of years ago with the whole egg-hatching thing.

Blue herons have been showing up more and more as well, although I've heard that they hunt in the smaller urban and suburban creeks and ponds (even koi!) but reside further out.

731 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:13:45am

re: #725 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow.

732 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:14:26am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How cute. Affirmative action for squirrels.

Never thought of it that way...priceless = )

733 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:14:30am

re: #729 Spare O'Lake

You know, reading your comment gave me an intense feeling of
DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN.

LOL, yes history does repeat itself.

734 Cathypop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:17:25am

Morning All. Saturday morning and a fresh cup of coffee. Can this day get better?

735 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:18:05am

re: #730 Bumr50

Blue herons? In the 'burg? How odd - I always thought of them as tropical...

736 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:18:22am

re: #731 Bumr50

There's another vid on YouTube an eagle dragging a goat off of a cliff.

Craziest stuff I've ever seen!

737 JD1962  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:20:54am

Goodnight all time for bed down here, morning to all starting the day and have a good one.

738 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:21:04am

re: #728 Rancher

We thought we had him registered but couldn't retrieve the e-mail. I'll use a different e-mail next time, his seems to have issues, he's lost some other e-mail on his yahoo account. Was he here last night? Was Modgi?

LOL
I know..It can be frustrating getting registered..
I remember thinking..crap..Charles will probably close this before i finish this form...:)
I don't know if rustler was here cause i was outie around 8 or so..went out with the beautiful mrs.hoopster..I'm guessing she is going to sleep real late today.

739 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:21:28am

re: #734 Cathypop

Morning All. Saturday morning and a fresh cup of coffee. Can this day get better?

Sure it can, today the kids' antibiotics should start kicking in and they will feel better (if I say it often enough, I will start to believe it)

Glad you have fresh coffee though, that goes a long way towards making the difference between a good day and a bad one

740 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:21:53am

re: #736 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd go out some mornings on the ranch and watch these magnificent Bald Eagles carry off pretty good size lambs. One reason I'm no longer in ranching.

741 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:22:27am

re: #734 Cathypop

Morning All. Saturday morning and a fresh cup of coffee. Can this day get better?


Good Morning!
It is a great day..I'll bet a trillion dollars that it's cold outside though.
/the money came from the bailout

742 Cathypop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:23:50am

re: #741 HoosierHoops

Good Morning!
It is a great day..I'll bet a trillion dollars that it's cold outside though.
/the money came from the bailout

A little chilly but not cold enough to turn the heat on.

743 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:24:08am

re: #741 HoosierHoops

Good Morning!
It is a great day..I'll bet a trillion dollars that it's cold outside though.
/the money came from the bailout

Just be glad that you get to enjoy all 4 seasons...I find myself wishing for snow everytime the temperature drops a little bit. never thought I would miss it, but I do

744 Cathypop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:25:09am

re: #739 srb1976

Sure it can, today the kids' antibiotics should start kicking in and they will feel better (if I say it often enough, I will start to believe it)

Glad you have fresh coffee though, that goes a long way towards making the difference between a good day and a bad one

Sorry you have sick ones at home.

745 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:25:32am

re: #740 Rancher

I'd go out some mornings on the ranch and watch these magnificent Bald Eagles carry off pretty good size lambs. One reason I'm no longer in ranching.

Couldn't someone make a collar to put on lambs that when sensing a upward lift that would zap the lamb and eagle and it would drop it?
the zapper collar!

746 Cathypop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:27:53am

re: #745 HoosierHoops

Couldn't someone make a collar to put on lambs that when sensing a upward lift that would zap the lamb and eagle and it would drop it?
the zapper collar!

One morning I stopped because a rather large jackrabbit was in front of my truck. Next thing a barn owl swooped over the cab and flew off with the rabbit.

747 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:28:06am

re: #745 HoosierHoops

Punishable by life in prison probably.

748 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:28:07am

re: #743 srb1976

Just be glad that you get to enjoy all 4 seasons...I find myself wishing for snow everytime the temperature drops a little bit. never thought I would miss it, but I do

Are you kidding me :)
After college in california and living in Hawaii for three years..the whole 4 season thing is way over rated.. I'm hoping Gore is right..I'm pro- global warming.
:)
oh..and good morning

749 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:28:51am

re: #740 Rancher

I'd go out some mornings on the ranch and watch these magnificent Bald Eagles carry off pretty good size lambs. One reason I'm no longer in ranching.

Could dogs not help with that? (Komondor?)

750 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:29:13am

re: #740 Rancher

I'd go out some mornings on the ranch and watch these magnificent Bald Eagles carry off pretty good size lambs. One reason I'm no longer in ranching.

I had no idea about that until about three weeks ago...never occurred to me the birds got that big, strong, etc.

751 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:30:05am

re: #745 HoosierHoops

Couldn't someone make a collar to put on lambs that when sensing a upward lift that would zap the lamb and eagle and it would drop it?
the zapper collar!

Not a BAAAD idea unless you happen to be standing there minding your own business when all of a sudden you get your head taken off by an incoming lamb. LOL.

752 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:30:25am

re: #745 HoosierHoops
Not cost effective. Coyotes were worse. Some folk tried guard dogs, burros etc. but even they were too expensive. Understand out here you run about 13 A.U.'s (animal units) per square mile. That's 13 cows or 65 sheep per square mile, they are pretty much on their own.

753 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:30:44am

re: #751 Spare O'Lake

It would be bedlamb.

754 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:32:13am

re: #751 Spare O'Lake

Not a BAAAD idea unless you happen to be standing there minding your own business when all of a sudden you get your head taken off by an incoming lamb. LOL.

I'm calling Billy Mays..The Bird Zapper!
If you are the first 50 callers we will double your order..

755 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:32:28am

re: #751 Spare O'Lake

Not a BAAAD idea unless you happen to be standing there minding your own business when all of a sudden you get your head taken off by an incoming lamb. LOL.


They don't fly so much as plummet.

756 rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:32:43am

Rwar no I wasn't here last night unfortuneatley was busy night at work. MOrning all ruslter here.

Narrator: The years passed, mankind became stupider at a frightening rate. Some had high hopes the genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution, but sadly the greatest minds and resources where focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections.(Narration from Idiocracy(I.E. the US under Obama Presidency))

757 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:33:14am

re: #744 Cathypop

eh, it's just normal little kid stuff, ear infection and throat infection...I'm just whining

758 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:33:34am

re: #752 Rancher

Not cost effective. Coyotes were worse. Some folk tried guard dogs, burros etc. but even they were too expensive. Understand out here you run about 13 A.U.'s (animal units) per square mile. That's 13 cows or 65 sheep per square mile, they are pretty much on their own.

Thanks for raining on my parade Rancher..LOL
Better start the coffee now...

759 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:34:20am

re: #749 wahabicorridor

Komondor?

760 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:34:21am

re: #753 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It would be bedlamb.

A lambchop?

761 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:34:50am

re: #760 Spare O'Lake

A lambchop?

Long as it didn't fall on ewe.

762 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:35:00am

re: #748 HoosierHoops

Are you kidding me :)
After college in california and living in Hawaii for three years..the whole 4 season thing is way over rated.. I'm hoping Gore is right..I'm pro- global warming.
:)
oh..and good morning

Good morning to you too!

But in all seriousness, and it's probably because I don't have to deal with it anymore...I really miss snow, especially around the holidays. alabama doesn't get much, if any, and Vegas gets none that isn't trucked in...so it's been awhile

763 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:35:18am

re: #760 Spare O'Lake

A lambchop?

The whammy lammy

764 rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:35:24am

Your Average Eagle can carry off about 1.5 times its body weight for short periods of time its quite breathtaking at times. Until you realize the damn glorified buzzard is running off with your livelyhood.

Rustler

765 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:35:53am

I saw Dogs 101 on the Rhodesian Ridgeback and fell in love. I can't wait to own enough land to have one someday.
Hopefully I'll still be able to own land by the time I can afford it.

766 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:36:31am

re: #763 HoosierHoops

I need a gyro omelette now. Thanks a bunch.

767 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:36:53am

re: #764 rancher

What is 1.5 the weight of an average eagle? (leave the monty python sparrow/coconut jokes out of it)

768 rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:37:02am

MMM GYRO

769 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:38:59am

re: #762 srb1976

Good morning to you too!

But in all seriousness, and it's probably because I don't have to deal with it anymore...I really miss snow, especially around the holidays. alabama doesn't get much, if any, and Vegas gets none that isn't trucked in...so it's been awhile

When I was in Northern Cal. we would drive up to the mountains and ski..
Heavenly Valley mostly...After a day or so..I'm over it.
I'll FED-EX you some snow next week...
:)

770 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:39:44am

re: #761 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Long as it didn't fall on ewe.

Wouldn't be the first time I've had the wool pulled over my eyes.

771 rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:40:26am

A female bald eagle weighs in at about 14 lb males around 12 allthough i may have the sexual dymorphism backwards. Golden eagles have similar wingspans but 8-12lb is a more likely range. Stellar's sea eagles on hte otherhand are depending on what your using to determine size are ranked 1-3 for eagles world wide. Stellar's sea eagles atthe high end can weigh in excess of 20 lbs. (they are heaviest and most massive but have shorter stouter bodies and wings than the Harpy eagle which is next most massive but is taller and wider wingspan.)

772 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:40:46am

re: #765 Bumr50

I saw Dogs 101 on the Rhodesian Ridgeback and fell in love. I can't wait to own enough land to have one someday.
Hopefully I'll still be able to own land by the time I can afford it.

Komondor

And you will love the Ridgeback. They have melting eyes and understand every word you say.

773 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:40:48am

Yo Charles - could we get one more voting icon?
Not sure that voting icon is the right term and I know it is a lot of work for you.
I picture it as a "raspberry" Opposing of the heart one.
Some times I am just not there with a comment, but it is not worthy of a ding down and that is too harsh - we do (still) have freedom of speech here.

Really, it would be good to indicate that we think the person is crossing the line in the sand you have set (a generious one.)

774 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:41:06am

re: #770 Spare O'Lake

Rammed that one home, didn'tcha.

775 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:41:16am

re: #769 HoosierHoops

I get a little sappy every now and then because the boy is 4 and has never owned a heavy winter coat, never built a snowman, or even thrown a snow ball.

Then I remember that I don't have to try to get him into a snow suit, or deal with REALLY cold puddles on the floor and I get over it...mostly

776 MANDYMANNERS  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:41:55am

It's colder than a brass witch's tit.

777 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:42:03am

re: #421 H--- H---er

We really had a visitor from the mirror universe last night?

778 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:43:01am

re: #776 MANDYMANNERS

It's colder than a brass witch's tit.

on the shady side?

779 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:43:12am

re: #740 Rancher
Learning from experience. Some do, some don't.
Darwin was not an idiot.

780 rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:43:53am

As a comparison Condor's the largest flying birds currently liveing top out at about 30 pounds. Turkeys can get heavier on farms etc but most farm raised turkeys are incapable of flight. They primarly take long flap assisted hops.

781 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:44:16am

re: #771 rancher

Dang. So, they'll knock your ass out!

782 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:44:32am

re: #775 srb1976

I get a little sappy every now and then because the boy is 4 and has never owned a heavy winter coat, never built a snowman, or even thrown a snow ball.

Then I remember that I don't have to try to get him into a snow suit, or deal with REALLY cold puddles on the floor and I get over it...mostly

That is so cool..every little kid needs to play in the snow..and throw a snowball..and it needs to be on video.
Couldn't agree with you more...

783 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:44:55am

re: #772 wahabicorridor

I was impressed. They were originally bred to tree lions.

I live in an apartment complex now and it's sad to see so many dogs big and out of shape. We have a schnoodle and at 13 lbs. she's just big enough to be able to stretch out and play in the unit.
Mostly dudes trying to be tough or get laid getting these big dogs.

784 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:45:33am

re: #776 MANDYMANNERS

Do brass witches like brass b*lls?

785 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:46:25am

re: #774 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Rammed that one home, didn'tcha.

Shofar sho' good.

786 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:46:43am

re: #782 HoosierHoops

Yeah, but then I remember that I have actually had to tell him not to pee on his sister...not sure adding snow would be a good idea.

Of course what little snow we get here is usually gone by noon, so it might be ok

787 teeeye81  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:47:05am

Kinda spooky like!

Catch that funny odor!

788 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:47:44am

re: #778 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

on the shady side?

Yeah.

789 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:47:46am

re: #783 Bumr50
New Mexco and pit bulls - you are right on!

790 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:47:58am

re: #780 rancher

Funny story.

My Mom got one peacock a while back and was told that if you feed them you could let them loose and they'd stick around.
Every day a flock of turkeys would scome by, stop and look for a sec, and go on their way.
The first day my mom let the peacock out, off it went with the turkeys.
We hope he's happy and in charge.

My mom got TWO peacocks next.

791 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:48:37am

re: #784 Bumr50

Do brass witches like brass b*lls?

Ask the warlocks.

792 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:48:41am

re: #785 Spare O'Lake

Shofar sho' good.

O'vine about it vhy don't you.

793 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:49:07am

re: #777 Dar ul Harb

We really had a visitor from the mirror universe last night?

That was a funny read..
But really..on a trash talking level that was about a 1 out of 10.
I heard better stuff during 8th grade basketball.
Those guys could having you calling mommy at halftime..

794 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:49:10am

re: #783 Bumr50

They were originally bred to tree lions.

I did not know that. Remarkable, when you realize how gentle they are.

LindaMarie

Hello there! What's cookin' in Kabul?

795 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:49:10am

re: #790 Bumr50

What's a girl peacock?

796 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:49:57am

re: #776 MANDYMANNERS

It's colder than a brass witch's tit.

Colder than the hair on a polar bear's ass.

797 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:50:07am

Pit Bulls were misbreed for aggression for far to long. I'm almost afraid as a breed Staffordshire Terriers(Pit bulls in US) may be on the way out.

798 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:51:09am

Female peacock is a peahen.

799 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:52:54am

re: #789 LindaMarie

A lot of people think one leisurely stroll a day is enough exercise. Those dogs NEED to run - they're not like humans (even though many of those SHOULD run.)

800 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:53:36am

re: #792 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

O'vine about it vhy don't you.

That's a sheep shot.

801 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:54:46am

re: #797 Rancher

Pit Bulls were misbreed for aggression for far to long. I'm almost afraid as a breed Staffordshire Terriers(Pit bulls in US) may be on the way out.

I hope not. When properly handled, they are excellent dogs. They've been able to rehab almost all Michael Vick's dogs.

802 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:54:47am

re: #796 Spare O'Lake

Colder than the hair on a polar bear's ass.

Colder than a well-diggers butt.

803 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:54:48am

re: #798 Rancher
Got a ding you up for knowing that.

804 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:54:52am

re: #798 Rancher

Female peacock is a peahen.

That's why i love it here...you learn something every day

805 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:55:55am

Heya Rancher lou says Hi.

806 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:56:31am

re: #794 wahabicorridor

"When European Boer settlers arrived in South Africa in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, they brought with them such breeds as the Mastiff, Great Dane, Bloodhound, Pointer, Staghound, and Greyhound, among others. These settlers needed a dog that could withstand both hot and cold temperatures, limited water, and rough bush, while performing the duties of guard dog and hunting dog. By breeding their Eurpoean dogs with native Hottentot tribal hunting dogs (which were distinguished by a ridge of hair growing in the opposite direction along the top of their back) they produced just such a dog" -Ridgback History [Link: www.lionhounds.org...]

807 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:57:16am

re: #799 Bumr50

A lot of people think one leisurely stroll a day is enough exercise. Those dogs NEED to run - they're not like humans (even though many of those SHOULD run.)

Which is why, as the lazy owner of 2 big dogs (both rescued) I love my big fenced in yard, plus a 4 year old for them to play with when they are allowed outside the fence.

Turns out neither dogs nor boys have limitless energy, they do eventually run out

808 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:57:20am

re: #802 MandyManners

Colder than a well-diggers butt.

Colder than a pile of penguin shit.

809 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:57:42am

Understand eagles don't have to carry off their prey. Our county trapper told me some eagles have killed 400lbs steers. They would land on the back and strike the base of the skull.

Real Rancher

810 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:57:42am

are u coming to work today and u never called me
lou

811 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:58:02am

re: #801 wahabicorridor
Not if they have been used to fight. The breeding pairs, mostly the females can be.
I would never trust a dog that has been in a fight around any child.
Never - ever.

812 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:58:31am

re: #808 Spare O'Lake

Colder than a pile of penguin shit.

I was about to say something witty but gross. I'm gonna' go brew some tea. brb

813 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:59:00am

re: #803 LindaMarie

Got a ding you up for knowing that.

Linda..Aren't you in Afghanistan?
My son deploys there with the 3/5 marines on 1-3-09.
We have no idea where he will be at..But wouldn't it be cool if you both are at the same base?

814 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:59:46am

re: #810 Rancher
Yes, talk to you then. Now let's quit using Charles site as our personal chat line.

815 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:00:06am

Well good morning all y'all - from a COLD (19 degrees
going all the way up to 45 degrees) but tauntingly sunny and bright Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

816 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:01:36am

re: #815 realwest

Well good morning all y'all - from a COLD (19 degrees
going all the way up to 45 degrees) but tauntingly sunny and bright Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

It's about time you are up! How is the new computer?
well you are posting..so that is good..

817 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:02:38am

re: #811 LindaMarie

Not if they have been used to fight. The breeding pairs, mostly the females can be.
I would never trust a dog that has been in a fight around any child.
Never - ever.

Around a child - no - but as I noted - most of Michael Vicks dogs have been successfully rehabed. And you didn't answer my question - how's Kabul?

{realwest}

818 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:03:29am

re: #815 realwest

Well good morning all y'all - from a COLD (19 degrees
going all the way up to 45 degrees) but tauntingly sunny and bright Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Morning!

819 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:03:37am

re: #801 wahabicorridor

It takes a responsible owner. I got kicked out of a kegger before I even got a cup one time because a friend of a friend had a pit bull. The dog greeted us a block away from the house (a city block). When we got there, I told the dude that he should probably not let his dog roam the streets, because kids could aggravate him (among a plethora of other things, that's just what I said). He got all sh*tty with me and told me HIS dog could do whatever HE wanted.
Apparently he was a country boy that refused to adjust. My point is that he's FAR from the most irresponsible pit bull owner I've seen, but unfortunately a lot of people who are drawn to the breed have a temperament unsuited for the breed.

820 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:03:47am

No they dont need to be able to carry it off to kill it however anything to big to be carried is left to scavengers once the eagle gets finished eatting.

821 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:03:56am

Trivia Question

Which two Australian animals can't walk backwards?

822 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:04:04am

Good Morning everyone! Sounds like t is cold about everywhere...28 and sunny blue sky here on the Cape. The dogs went out to do their business, then went back up and snuggled down in our bed. They are way too spoiled.

823 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:04:33am

re: #815 realwest

Morning real, 30 degrees here, just lit a fire for Mrs. Rancher and the puppies. We have a miniature Doberman, looks like a chihuahua, shivers all the time.

824 Tigger2005  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:05:55am

How America could deliver a resounding blow to its enemies and a resounding victory for the principles of freedom and capitalism, but won't, because dumbass Americans elected a dumbass Marxist Israel-hater for President who wants to make us like our enemies.

We have a very narrow window of incredible opportunity, and we're most likely going to miss it, and the price we're going to pay for it could destroy us.

First--work with Israel to incapacitate Iran's nuclear bomb program.

Second--lay the groundwork for continued expansion and diversification of our economy by rolling back taxes, simplifying the tax code, deregulation, etc.

Third--a massive effort to achieve energy independence through nuclear power, drilling, alternative energy.

With Russia, Iran, and Venezuela already reeling under declining oil prices, these actions would put the nail in the coffin of their despotic regimes and giving the U.S. overwhelming economic superiority, and thus leverage to influence the establishment of real democracy in those countries.

But none of this will happen because we will have a brainwashed Marxist idiot in the White House, and more brainwashed Marxist idiots in Congress, who will continue to believe socialism is the answer to everything no matter how often and horribly it fails because they are congenitally incapable of learning from mistakes.

They will make us more like our enemies at a time when our best course is to differentiate ourselves from our enemies as much as possible.

One would think they actually WANT to weaken and destroy their own country. Isn't that what traitors do?

I hate BHO. So much. Already.

825 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:06:19am

re: #821 Crux Australis

Trivia Question

Which two Australian animals can't walk backwards?

I know my Red Heeler/dingo can walk backwards, don't have any idea which Aussie animals cannot, though a kangaroo would be one guess

826 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:07:05am

re: #821 Crux Australis

Trivia Question

Which two Australian animals can't walk backwards?

I got a better trivia question..Which two Australians don't drink beer?
/ LOL

827 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:07:12am

Plan 9 is the best flick.

828 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:07:36am

re: #823 Rancher

Morning real, 30 degrees here, just lit a fire for Mrs. Rancher and the puppies. We have a miniature Doberman, looks like a chihuahua, shivers all the time.

Lol, Minpin, my Mastiff would carry that around in his mouth like a toy, and snuggle with it!

829 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:08:26am

re: #813 HoosierHoops
It would be nice to meet him, but I am not military, I am a civilian working here in IT in Kabul. I do get around a bit, was in Gardez last week.
Once he is here let me know where he is based, and if he is in Kabul we will invite him to dinner.

830 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:08:39am

Ok omw home be safe lizards rustler out.


/clear smoke

831 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:08:54am

re: #823 Rancher

20 here in the burgh. I'm wearing a toque in the house for now. I'll wait til' the girl and the dog get out of bed to turn up the thermostat.

832 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:09:19am

I wake up every morning and realize our country is disintegrating. Do I have morning sickness?

833 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:09:39am

re: #825 CapeCoddah

Platypus?

834 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:09:41am

re: #832 NYCHardhat

I wake up every morning and realize our country is disintegrating. Do I have morning sickness?

No, just good instincts.

835 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:09:59am

re: #819 Bumr50

Ain't that the truth. We had a neighbor down the street who had a Pekinese for 20 yrs. Dog dies. Her son - macho type from Puerto Rico - gets her a Pit Bull - 'for protection' - a female named Precious. With people she was adorable but VERY dog aggressive. Twice she got out and attacked dogs being walked. I offered to help them find a good PB trainer - but no. Third time Precious attacked, she inadvertently bit the owner.

Animal control put her down. What a waste. And don't even get me started on the morons who go get Presario Canaris.

836 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:10:06am

re: #800 Spare O'Lake

That's a sheep shot.

Stop it. We'll get mobbed.

837 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:10:21am

re: #833 Bumr50

Platypus?

Could be, I dont know, was not my question!

838 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:10:27am

re: #832 NYCHardhat

If you're sick of morning, yes.

839 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:10:30am

re: #819 Bumr50

It takes a responsible owner. I got kicked out of a kegger before I even got a cup one time because a friend of a friend had a pit bull. The dog greeted us a block away from the house (a city block). When we got there, I told the dude that he should probably not let his dog roam the streets, because kids could aggravate him (among a plethora of other things, that's just what I said). He got all sh*tty with me and told me HIS dog could do whatever HE wanted.
Apparently he was a country boy that refused to adjust. My point is that he's FAR from the most irresponsible pit bull owner I've seen, but unfortunately a lot of people who are drawn to the breed have a temperament unsuited for the breed.

If a pit bull owner brings his dog to the park, The Kid automatically walks to the car. He loves dogs--any kind of dog--but, he's read enough to know that he doesn't need to be around pits.

840 Tigger2005  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:10:35am

re: #827 NYCHardhat

Plan 9 is the best flick.

Ed Wood was a good movie.

I took my ex to see it when it came out. She didn't really get it. Then, years later, she was watching it like she'd never seen it before and really getting into it. I said, "We went to see that in the theater years go and you didn't like it."

Thing was, she wasn't into Johnny Depp then.

841 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:10:55am

re: #826 HoosierHoops

Mel Gibson and the bartender?

842 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:11:27am

re: #821 Crux Australis

Trivia Question

Which two Australian animals can't walk backwards?

Kangaroo?

843 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:12:05am

re: #823 Rancher

Morning real, 30 degrees here, just lit a fire for Mrs. Rancher and the puppies. We have a miniature Doberman, looks like a chihuahua, shivers all the time.

Get him a sweater!

844 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:12:07am

re: #840 Tigger2005

Of course. He lives in France and probably voted for the One.

845 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:12:28am

re: #839 MandyManners

If a pit bull owner brings his dog to the park, The Kid automatically walks to the car. He loves dogs--any kind of dog--but, he's read enough to know that he doesn't need to be around pits.

I am the same way, Mandy. I will go up to ANY dog, I adore them all, 'cept pit bulls. I avoid them, and as much as I hate doing it, it is just not worth it. The kid is smart.

846 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:12:32am

re: #834 CapeCoddah

Thought so.

847 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:13:16am

re: #816 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops! Nope, still working from old computer.
Geek Squad tech gets here, opens sealed UPS package with motherboard in it, opens up said sealed package, carefully opens sealed slivery plastic bag from inside the two sets of heavy foam padding, takes out new motherboard and...a capacitor falls off the board!
So - they didn't change motherboard, didn't change Hard Drive, didn't use Restore Disk and didn't do data transfer - I did however get most everything I want backed up on a thumb flash drive.
And when I spoke to Geek Squad he couldn't reschedule a third attempt to come out and replace my motherboard because the Geek Squad's computers were...DOWN.
I felt as if I'd fallen into a 3 Stooges movie somehow!
It was a fun day all the way around!

How are you doing on this FREEZING FUCKIN' MORNING?!

848 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:13:42am

Koala bear?

849 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:13:59am

re: #846 NYCHardhat

Thought so.

It is unfortunate and it stinks. I am optimist, but, it gets harder every day.

850 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:14:08am

re: #817 wahabicorridor
Hey {wahabi} - how are ya doing today?

851 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:14:29am

re: #826 HoosierHoops

I got a better trivia question..Which two Australians don't drink beer?
/ LOL

I'm one of them most of the time. I have a conservative Baptist/Pentecostal upbringing. Only times are maybe Christmas, some parties and when I'm feeling very depressed (rarely). I prefer Bourbon and some other spirits to beer.

852 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:14:53am

re: #845 CapeCoddah

I am the same way, Mandy. I will go up to ANY dog, I adore them all, 'cept pit bulls. I avoid them, and as much as I hate doing it, it is just not worth it. The kid is smart.

Denver had quite a few maulings before they banned the breed.

853 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:14:56am

re: #827 NYCHardhat

Ever see the movie Ed Wood? Arguably the best movie ever made about "a cross dressing director who made really bad movies, but thought they were art, and tried to resurrect the career of a Hollywood legend, who had a girlfriend with a face like a horse."

854 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:14:58am

re: #818 srb1976
Good morning back atcha!

855 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:15:10am

re: #845 CapeCoddah

I am the same way, Mandy. I will go up to ANY dog, I adore them all, 'cept pit bulls. I avoid them, and as much as I hate doing it, it is just not worth it. The kid is smart.

My dad brought home a pit bull mix that he found abandoned in the woods. Really sweet dog, good with people, even good with other dogs. Kills cats on sight...I had heard that when training fighting dogs they start them on cats, not sure if that's true, but it sure would explain things

856 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:15:24am

re: #829 LindaMarie

It would be nice to meet him, but I am not military, I am a civilian working here in IT in Kabul. I do get around a bit, was in Gardez last week.
Once he is here let me know where he is based, and if he is in Kabul we will invite him to dinner.

That would be awesome...
I'm afraid that if 1st platoon, Kilo Co. 3/5th Marines is in town you'll be going to dinner with a bunch of marines.
They are a wonderful group of men..When Jordan came home from Iraq we rented a beachhouse for jordan and 1st platoon..We awoke to marines in their underwear cooking breakfast..smoking cigs and drinking beer...A sight to behold.

857 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:15:35am

re: #851 Crux Australis

Which two animals don't walk backwards?

858 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:16:03am

re: #821 Crux Australis
Roo's and Wallabes, mate!

859 Tigger2005  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:16:16am

re: #853 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever see the movie Ed Wood? Arguably the best movie ever made about "a cross dressing director who made really bad movies, but thought they were art, and tried to resurrect the career of a Hollywood legend, who had a girlfriend with a face like a horse."

Yeah, I've seen lots of movies with that plot, but Ed Wood was the only really good one!

860 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:16:30am

re: #857 MandyManners

Which two animals don't walk backwards?

Platypus?

861 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:03am

re: #850 realwest

Hey {wahabi} - how are ya doing today?

hey real! Very well thank you. I have to get going - making coq au Vin for dinner - lots of kitchen time today.

862 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:08am

re: #860 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You stole my answer!;-)

863 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:15am

re: #859 Tigger2005

That's what I'm sayin'!

864 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:25am

re: #860 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Platypus?

I'm thinking the kangaroo and the koala bear.

865 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:35am

re: #862 Bumr50

You stole my answer!;-)

Then you were wrong.

866 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:44am

re: #852 MandyManners

Denver had quite a few maulings before they banned the breed.

Yeah, it happens here all the time, There is always a pit bull story. We even have a local radio host who does a pit bull attack story segment every week. It seems here that only nasty drug dealers use them, and it seems to me they must torture the shit out of the poor dogs to get the nastiness they want. I would love to see those idiots get their deserved reward. Unfortunately, it is usually a kid or a neighbor who pays the price...

867 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:49am

re: #861 wahabicorridor

Happy Gastronomy!

868 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:17:59am

re: #823 Rancher
Hey there Rancher - I feel like your chihuahua shaking dobie - I'm seriously effin' COLD, in my own home!

869 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:18:02am

re: #853 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I really can't stand Tim Burton, but Ed Wood was a fantastic film. I picked up the "new" color version of Plan 9. It is sooo bad its good.

870 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:18:24am

The answers are the Kangaroo and Emu. Australia's national symbols.

Maybe because of Australia's progress at the time of becoming independent of Britain.? Not sure

871 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:18:25am

re: #861 wahabicorridor

Do I want to know what that is?

872 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:19:03am

re: #865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Amazing, I know! Believe it or not, it happens more than you'd think.

873 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:19:06am

re: #869 NYCHardhat

I really can't stand Tim Burton, but Ed Wood was a fantastic film. I picked up the "new" color version of Plan 9. It is sooo bad its good.

I absolutely love Tim Burton films. Can't think of one I didn't enjoy.

874 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:19:21am

re: #855 srb1976

My dad brought home a pit bull mix that he found abandoned in the woods. Really sweet dog, good with people, even good with other dogs. Kills cats on sight...I had heard that when training fighting dogs they start them on cats, not sure if that's true, but it sure would explain things

And that is a huge problem. Once you teach any animal to kill, they will continue to do so, and must be put down, no matter how sweet. That injustice to the dog sooo pisses me off.

875 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:20:07am

re: #861 wahabicorridor

hey real! Very well thank you. I have to get going - making coq au Vin for dinner - lots of kitchen time today.

Stew. I have some lovely sirloin I'm gonna' chop up.

Except for the grazing platter, I've all the food for Thanksgiving bought. Same for Christmas except for the ham.

876 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:20:08am

re: #835 wahabicorridor
Hey Wahabi! Que es un Presario Canaris?

877 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:20:20am

re: #873 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm gonna go see 'Bolt' in 3D today.

878 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:21:06am

re: #871 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Do I want to know what that is?

3T olive oil
1/2 lb bacon 1/4 in. dice
2 chickens, quartered (6 lbs total)
3/4c shallots, coarsely chopped
2lb carrots, medium, peeled, 1 in. lengths
3T garlic chopped
3T butter
2lb mushrooms, stems removed, quartered
3T all purpose flour
2c chicken broth
2c red wine (Burgandy)
1/4c cognac
1/4c tomato paste
1T red currant jelly
1T brown sugar
1T fresh thyme (or 1t dried)
1 bay leaf
s&p

heat oil in Dutch oven over med head
add bacon and cook - remove
brown chicken, 4 min per side - plate
reduce to med-lo
add shallots, carrots, wilt 10 min
add garlic, cook 5 min
add butter & mushrooms, cook 5 min
sprinkle flour over, cook, stirring 2 min
add broth, wine, cognac
bring to boil, cook 5 min, scrape occ.
add tomato paste, jelly, brown sugar, thyme, bay, s&p
return bacon & chicken
cover well w/sauce
bring to boil
cover
place in 375 oven for 30 min
remove cover - bake another 30 min

879 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:21:11am

re: #866 CapeCoddah

Yeah, it happens here all the time, There is always a pit bull story. We even have a local radio host who does a pit bull attack story segment every week. It seems here that only nasty drug dealers use them, and it seems to me they must torture the shit out of the poor dogs to get the nastiness they want. I would love to see those idiots get their deserved reward. Unfortunately, it is usually a kid or a neighbor who pays the price...

What kind of dog killed that woman in San Francisco for which the surrogate owners (attorneys) went to prison?

880 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:21:18am

re: #843 MandyManners
Mandy, both puppies have extensive wardrobes. They even had costumes for Halloween and went trick-or-treating.

881 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:22:01am

re: #870 Crux Australis

The answers are the Kangaroo and Emu. Australia's national symbols.

Maybe because of Australia's progress at the time of becoming independent of Britain.? Not sure

I got half right!

Wait a minute. Isn't the emu a bird and not an animal?

Tricksy, you are.

882 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:22:20am

re: #879 MandyManners

What kind of dog killed that woman in San Francisco for which the surrogate owners (attorneys) went to prison?

That was an exotic breed, rare. I will look it up, werent there 2 dogs involved in that mauling? I think they had a latin based name.

883 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:22:37am

re: #878 wahabicorridor

That leaves one bottle-1/4 cup cognac for the chef.

884 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:22:49am

re: #876 realwest

Hey Wahabi! Que es un Presario Canaris?

I'll see if I can find a link. Very, very tough dogs bred for fighting. You may recall a real horror story from a few years back out of San Fran. A woman was mauled to death in her apartment hallway by two dogs that were being kept by her neighbors - for a prison inmate.

Off to find a link...

885 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:23:03am

re: #878 wahabicorridor
Is that in the LGF Cookbook?

886 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:23:21am

re: #870 Crux Australis
Hey, I was half-right and in today's schools here in the USA, that's a passing grade, right?!
What the hell is an "emu"?!

887 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:23:27am

re: #870 Crux Australis

The answers are the Kangaroo and Emu. Australia's national symbols.

Maybe because of Australia's progress at the time of becoming independent of Britain.? Not sure

I was going to guess Emu.

But, then I got in this internal discussion "Would an Emu be considered an animal, i mean it's a bird." Then I thought, "Wait! a bird is an animal!" Then I reconsidered, "Maybe a bird is an animal, but would it be considered an animal for the purpose of this argument." Then I thought, "Why do people argue so much about silly things." When it occurred to me, "Hey! It might be a platypus. Though it does have webbed feet." Finally, I thought, "I liked the show "Dragnet". Though I really don't consider Jack Webb to be that great of an actor.".

See how my mind works?

888 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:23:29am

re: #879 MandyManners

What kind of dog killed that woman in San Francisco for which the surrogate owners (attorneys) went to prison?

THAT is the Presario Canaris

889 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:23:58am

re: #880 Rancher

Mandy, both puppies have extensive wardrobes. They even had costumes for Halloween and went trick-or-treating.

Do they have rain coats with little booties?

890 Crux Australis  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:24:02am

I have a question.

Whenever I am on a thread on LGF and it gets to about 1000 or 1100 comments I get "thrown out" when I press the new comments button and can't get back into the thread ever.

Is it because I only have 1GB of RAM or some other problem?

891 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:24:34am

re: #881 MandyManners

A bird is an animal. It would separated at the "class" level of KPCOFGS, I think. I could be wrong, AGAIN.

892 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:24:35am

re: #881 MandyManners
If it's not vegetable or mineral it's animal.

893 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:24:44am

re: #886 realwest

Hey, I was half-right and in today's schools here in the USA, that's a passing grade, right?!
What the hell is an "emu"?!


A feather duster with legs.

894 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:25:18am

I wish we had Romney instead of McCain.

895 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:25:25am

re: #879 MandyManners

Mandy, they were Presa Canarios. Looks like a cross between a Pit bull, and a Bull Mastiff.
Image: holy-shit-presa-canaria.jpg

896 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:25:30am

re: #884 wahabicorridor

I'll see if I can find a link. Very, very tough dogs bred for fighting. You may recall a real horror story from a few years back out of San Fran. A woman was mauled to death in her apartment hallway by two dogs that were being kept by her neighbors - for a prison inmate.

Off to find a link...

You'll find the link from the SF chronicle website.

897 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:25:32am

re: #874 CapeCoddah

And that is a huge problem. Once you teach any animal to kill, they will continue to do so, and must be put down, no matter how sweet. That injustice to the dog sooo pisses me off.

My folks still have the dog, keep him locked up I (fenced in their yard) at all times, they have 2 other dogs as well and they all do ok together. They suspect that he was abandoned because he was unwilling to fight other dogs. they just have to keep the cat in the house

898 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:25:41am

re: #893 lifeofthemind

A BIG feather duster with legs.

fixed that.

899 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:25:48am

re: #882 CapeCoddah

That was an exotic breed, rare. I will look it up, werent there 2 dogs involved in that mauling? I think they had a latin based name.

Presa Canario

[Link: www.sfdogmauling.com...]

900 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:26:17am

re: #887 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Yeah, and I hate to say this to ya FBV, but it's not a pretty sight! LOL!
Just kidding!

901 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:26:17am

My mother just informed me that a family friend dropped dead. Turns out our socialized Medicare system turned him down for as defibulator that he was scheduled to have put in. Doctor wanted the procedure - government bureaucrat said: "Wait."


"N-- just heard from the doctor and A--- died from a heart problem. He was scheduled to get a defibrillator but Medicare turned him down because he had just had a new pacemaker put in a few weeks ago. They wanted him to wait 3 month before he had a new process."
902 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:26:41am
903 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:26:57am

re: #885 Rancher

Is that in the LGF Cookbook?

No - at least not from me - I submitted my recipe for Easy Meatloaf, tho.

904 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:27:02am

re: #894 NYCHardhat

I wish we had Romney instead of McCain.

I wish we had EITHER instead of Obama. We have the Clinton administration, with no Bill Clinton. (Thank God for THAT at least.)

905 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:27:11am

re: #888 wahabicorridor

THAT is the Presario Canaris

Look at the jaws on that thing.

[Link: www.sfdogmauling.com...]

906 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:27:41am

re: #892 Rancher

If it's not vegetable or mineral it's animal.

Are you a modern major general?

907 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:28:02am

re: #889 MandyManners
The Doberman has a raincoat, don't know about the Shih Tzu. No booties though, that would be silly. :)

Real Rancher

908 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:28:15am

re: #906 MandyManners

Are you a modern major general?

Uh oh. somebody go get buzzsawmonkey!

909 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:28:19am

re: #891 Bumr50

A bird is an animal. It would separated at the "class" level of KPCOFGS, I think. I could be wrong, AGAIN.

Are you a modern major general?

910 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:28:31am

re: #904 CapeCoddah

I hope the damage isn't irreversible that is created. Hopefully, it will only be two years.

911 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:28:37am

re: #890 Crux Australis
That or you need to disable whatever virus protection you're using. But one gig of RAM isn't much - most video cards hog over 600MBs of RAM just by turning the machine on!

See I didn't waste the whole day with the Geek Squad yesterday!

912 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:28:56am

re: #895 CapeCoddah

Mandy, they were Presa Canarios. Looks like a cross between a Pit bull, and a Bull Mastiff.
[Link: odinkennels.files.wordpress.com...]

It's something I'd put down if I saw it in my yard.

913 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:29:24am

Good morning Lizards...

914 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:29:32am

Perro de Presa Canario

Due to its temperament, the Presa Canario can be a challenge to train. They require a firm owner who is willing and able to meet the challenges a young, dominant puppy may pose. The breed is not traditionally suited for protection sports but it is gaining in popularity due to a small group of enthusiasts who have selected dogs based heavily on function. The Perro de Presa Canario is not recommended for the first time dog owner.[8]

Ya think?

915 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:29:49am

re: #902 doriangrey

Jingle bombs

916 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:29:53am

Pain in the South Forty morning. My PX (XP box) wouldn't boot this morning, I'm on the Macbook now, Yesterday I got the PC to take the internet off the laptop with a twisted ethernet cable connection that was much better than the lousy Belkin wifi that I had used, the Macbook has a great hold on wifi, but today the PC wouldn't boot, now I have it in safe mode and slooowly defraging, I expect the worst.

917 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:29:58am

re: #901 DistantThunder

My mother just informed me that a family friend dropped dead. Turns out our socialized Medicare system turned him down for as defibulator that he was scheduled to have put in. Doctor wanted the procedure - government bureaucrat said: "Wait."

Was that a medical decision to not cut into someone who'd just had a surgery on the same organ?

918 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:30:13am

re: #913 doriangrey

Whaddup dor!

919 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:30:18am

re: #901 DistantThunder

shit. I'm so sorry.

920 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:30:31am

re: #897 srb1976

My folks still have the dog, keep him locked up I (fenced in their yard) at all times, they have 2 other dogs as well and they all do ok together. They suspect that he was abandoned because he was unwilling to fight other dogs. they just have to keep the cat in the house

Well, if she is working out ok for them...I would be terrified of the dog, and I am not scared of much. Hopefully, the pooch knows she has a loving home, and a good thing, and loves your parents. I would not want to be the cat.

921 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:30:36am

re: #913 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards...

Good morning..I'm doing the house blend today..
How about a cup? No work today right? sweet!

922 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:30:54am

re: #907 Rancher

The Doberman has a raincoat, don't know about the Shih Tzu. No booties though, that would be silly. :)

Real Rancher

A Doberman in booties? The neigborhood dogs would laugh themselves silly.

923 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:31:53am

re: #901 DistantThunder
Ah geez, DT, I'm so sorry to hear that. Where do you live? Our medicare system doesn't do that here - I know cause of friends and relatives who've been in similar situations.

924 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:32:02am

re: #921 HoosierHoops

Good morning..I'm doing the house blend today..
How about a cup? No work today right? sweet!

No work is good work today... ;)

925 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:32:22am

re: #885 Rancher

Is that in the LGF Cookbook?

ok, I just sent it off to reine...

926 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:32:26am

re: #916 lifeofthemind

Pain in the South Forty morning. My PX (XP box) wouldn't boot this morning, I'm on the Macbook now, Yesterday I got the PC to take the internet off the laptop with a twisted ethernet cable connection that was much better than the lousy Belkin wifi that I had used, the Macbook has a great hold on wifi, but today the PC wouldn't boot, now I have it in safe mode and slooowly defraging, I expect the worst.

SHOOT IT! SHOOT IT NOW!

927 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:32:39am

re: #910 NYCHardhat

I hope the damage isn't irreversible that is created. Hopefully, it will only be two years.

It is not permanent. We are America. We live and learn, and come out stronger. Have faith in that. We will be OK.

928 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:32:43am

re: #901 DistantThunder

My mother just informed me that a family friend dropped dead. Turns out our socialized Medicare system turned him down for as defibulator that he was scheduled to have put in. Doctor wanted the procedure - government bureaucrat said: "Wait."

Coming to our neighborhood soon. So sorry to hear that DT. When you abrogate your responsibilities to a nanny government you are at their mercy, and governments have no mercy.

929 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:34:16am

re: #926 MandyManners

SHOOT IT! SHOOT IT NOW!

An old fashioned Veterinary would, they kept a peice of chalk in their pocket to make the X on the horses forehead.

930 LilyGecko  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:34:28am

Good morning. :)

931 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:34:43am

re: #901 DistantThunder

Sorry to hear about your friend. That just sucks

932 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:35:10am

Oh. My. God.

Read. Then start running around screaming like your hair is on fire.

933 Cathypop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:35:17am

re: #922 MandyManners

If you put booties on a dog they are allow to pee in your shoes!

934 yah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:35:24am

re: #815 realwest
I'm cold. 54 in FL. Hope you have are stocked up on wood.

935 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:35:31am

re: #927 CapeCoddah

It is not permanent. We are America. We live and learn, and come out stronger. Have faith in that. We will be OK.


I believe you, but I think we shouldn't have to learn the hard way. We did that 7 years ago.

936 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:36:22am

re: #922 MandyManners

A Doberman in booties? The neigborhood dogs would laugh themselves silly.

LOL, My Bull Mastiff refuses to go outside if the temp is below 45, He wants his jacket or sweater. He is a big, floppy, cuddly coward. But, he is so damned cute, I don't even mind putting that damned sweater on, and with those nails of his, it is not easy. It is like putting shoes on a baby curling his toes up.

937 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:36:32am

re: #913 doriangrey
Hey good morning dorian, how are ya today?

938 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:36:35am

This will take hours and it won't fix it I'm thinking. I did get a backup for my important stuff only about a week ago, interesting isn't it?

939 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:36:39am

re: #905 MandyManners

Look at the jaws on that thing.

[Link: www.sfdogmauling.com...]

These freaks - the man and woman - ADOPTED their client - the prisoner -so they could have family visitation priviledges.

940 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:36:56am

re: #936 CapeCoddah

Is he a biiig mastiff?

941 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:37:12am

re: #923 realwest

Ah geez, DT, I'm so sorry to hear that. Where do you live? Our medicare system doesn't do that here - I know cause of friends and relatives who've been in similar situations.

I'm in Jersey - he's in CA.

942 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:37:26am

it's really strange how much my cat and my one yera old sound alike...i keep going to check on the baby, only to find that it's not her crying it's my VERY vocal cat resenting closed doors again

943 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:37:37am

re: #932 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She makes me sick.

944 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:37:40am

re: #933 Cathypop

If you put booties on a dog they are allow to pee in your shoes!

Fair trade.

945 Rancher  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:37:53am

re: #932 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
AAARRRGGGHHHRRR!

946 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:38:02am

re: #901 DistantThunder

My mother just informed me that a family friend dropped dead. Turns out our socialized Medicare system turned him down for as defibulator that he was scheduled to have put in. Doctor wanted the procedure - government bureaucrat said: "Wait."

Words fail. If I was on a Jury I wouldn't convict.

947 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:38:15am

re: #916 lifeofthemind
Good morning - uh WHAT? (I didn't learn THAT much from the Geek Squad yesterday!)!

948 loflyer  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:38:19am

Morning mates! Can't hang around for very long. Got to go in to work and fix a problem I couldn't resolve yesterday. Arrr!

949 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:38:28am

re: #917 MandyManners

Was that a medical decision to not cut into someone who'd just had a surgery on the same organ?

He was already scheduled for the second procedure and medicare said no.

950 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:38:28am

re: #936 CapeCoddah

LOL, My Bull Mastiff refuses to go outside if the temp is below 45, He wants his jacket or sweater. He is a big, floppy, cuddly coward. But, he is so damned cute, I don't even mind putting that damned sweater on, and with those nails of his, it is not easy. It is like putting shoes on a baby curling his toes up.

The sweater goes on the legs first?

951 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:38:34am

re: #942 srb1976

it's really strange how much my cat and my one yera old sound alike...i keep going to check on the baby, only to find that it's not her crying it's my VERY vocal cat resenting closed doors again

ugh...one YEAR old...

952 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:39:31am

re: #926 MandyManners
LOL!

953 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:39:37am

re: #939 DistantThunder

These freaks - the man and woman - ADOPTED their client - the prisoner -so they could have family visitation priviledges.

I've heard that there was something going on between the prisoner and Knoller.

954 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:39:38am

re: #935 NYCHardhat

I believe you, but I think we shouldn't have to learn the hard way. We did that 7 years ago.

Well, sometimes humans tend to forget, and must be reminded. Not all, mind you, but, enough to warrant a reality check. We will be OK. I promise.

955 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:39:49am

re: #937 realwest

Hey good morning dorian, how are ya today?

Feeling better than I have any right to, thank god for aspirin... ;)

956 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:39:57am

Here's another Presa killing from 2006.

Authorities said she was giving Xeno a bath Friday in the back yard of the upscale Coral Springs home she shared with Rivero, when the 120-pound dog attacked the 120-pound woman.

It ripped open Willey's jugular, punctured her trachea and tore into her arms, back and side. One law enforcement official called it a "surreal scene."

Willey's 9-year-old daughter, Tyra, witnessed the attack and ran to a nearby home for help. But help came too late.

957 notutopia  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:40:05am

It is real.
Have you seen it.
Have you heard it.
Sometimes you cannot see or hear it.
That proves it.
— Plan 9 from Outer Space

Re: Saucers...Circular Logic.
; )

958 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:41:30am

re: #932 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh. I saw that yesterday. LOCAL news? Like people in East Bum Freakin' Virginia give a load what she thinks.

959 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:41:31am
960 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:42:05am

re: #932 Fat Bastard VegetarianNO - GO BUY ALL THE SHARES YOU CAN, then lead a stockholder revolt to throw her out as CEO and Chairwoman of the Board!

961 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:42:07am

Defragging 22% after 50 minutes

962 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:42:22am

re: #949 DistantThunder

He was already scheduled for the second procedure and medicare said no.

I should've read better.

I'm sorry to hear that. It's a bloody shame that medical decisions are being made by people who couldn't figure out which end of a stethescope to put in his ears.

963 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:42:33am

re: #959 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Bring the beast forth...so I may take a better look at him.
(obviously reading the lines off of a page on his desk)

964 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:42:35am

re: #940 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is he a biiig mastiff?

Actually, he is a smallish Bull Mastiff (thank God, as he sleeps with us). I will switch my avatar to a pic of the pooches...hang on.

965 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:43:06am

re: #847 realwest
Wore: #856 HoosierHoops

Been there done that. They are always gentlemen once they figure out a lady is present at the dinner table.
And I am wise and discreet enough when to make myself scare around the fire pit in the yard.

966 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:43:20am

re: #934 yah Yeah we have stocked up on dura flame logs but can't set a fire cause we gotta go do chores in about an hour!
So I'm frickin' COLD!

967 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:43:31am

re: #954 CapeCoddah

Thanks. I need that.

968 LoFlyer  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:43:41am

re: #961 lifeofthemind

Defragging 22% after 50 minutes

I doubt defragging will solve your issue. Defrag will give you better disk performance and more disk space. What is the issue with your P/C?

969 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:44:42am

re: #964 CapeCoddah

In Annapolis, MD a few years back, had a Mastiff owners association meeting. Could've sworn it was a Clydesdale owners association meeting.

970 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:44:44am

Has Bernard Levin commented on the HuffPo?

One of the bloggers there is Geoffrey Stone the former US Law Dean and Provost who hired BO. I see a SCOTUS seat in his future.

971 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:44:50am

Last week my close friend found herself sitting in the chair across from her abusive rapist ex-husband in mandatory parenting counseling. She orginally had a lawyer when she went to court 8 years ago for her divorce complete with restraining order for the rape when he broke down the bedroom door.

(Door frame is still broken and splintered.)

So now that she's poor, and he's started punching the son in the head on visitiation, she went to court without a lawyer - and the judge leaned over the bench and yelled at her, told her, that he'd put her in jail, unless she turned over the kids for visitation. Then the judge ordered parenting counseling for the two of them. I was so upset when the judge was yelling at her - that I had to leave the courtroom.

Legal aid said they can't help her because she's already had a private lawyer 8 years ago. The 2 pro bono attorney's she asked for help - told her that they would charge her a fee - even though she's filing for bankruptcy and just lost her job.

972 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:45:27am

re: #909 MandyManners

I'm confused. I was just remembering biology class. Sorry.

973 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:45:33am

re: #950 MandyManners

The sweater goes on the legs first?

Yes, it is handmade by an elderly neighbor.When my kids got to old for her sweaters, she made them for our dogs. It goes over the front paws and head, then the tube covers the body. Have a pic somewhere...might have to scan it to the comp. Will do later.

974 LilyGecko  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:46:06am

Oh, wow. That really stinks.
re: #971 DistantThunder

975 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:46:18am

re: #941 DistantThunder
Huh? I've got friends and relatives who've had to deal with Medicare on stuff like that and they never got turned down - what did the doctor say to Medicare anyway?
Again, though, my sympathies and condolences on your loss.

976 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:46:20am

re: #893 lifeofthemind
A ding up for LOL
Such an apt description.

977 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:46:27am

re: #967 NYCHardhat

Thanks. I need that.

Anytime, my friend. Keep the faith.

978 Long Nics are Looonnng  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:47:05am

I must go and give the economy a jump start. See you guys later.

979 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:47:19am

re: #968 LoFlyer

I doubt defragging will solve your issue. Defrag will give you better disk performance and more disk space. What is the issue with your P/C?

Good question, it booted in safe mode, said it was 24% fragmentted, why wouldn't it boot up normally? I did disconnect everything when tryine the second time, the first time it failed the ethernet was attached as it booted, the Mac laptop came up fine.

980 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:47:37am

re: #971 DistantThunder

What state is she in? NJ also?

981 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:47:44am

re: #972 Bumr50

I'm confused. I was just remembering biology class. Sorry.

No problem.

My biology teacher was also our cheerleader sponsor. Utter asshole.

982 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:47:49am

re: #901 DistantThunder

My mother just informed me that a family friend dropped dead. Turns out our socialized Medicare system turned him down for as defibulator that he was scheduled to have put in. Doctor wanted the procedure - government bureaucrat said: "Wait."

I am so sorry for your loss.. The pain must be overwhelming sometimes.
Our family has expeirenced losses to the older members..
*bows head*

on the other hand..
Look if some doctor is writting you scripts for a defibulator..you are in deep shit.. With all due respect...( and with only one cup of coffee) When you have ticker problems the wide set of problematic details have proved to be insurmountable. Heart issues are so complex and the solution so madding elusive..

983 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:47:59am

re: #948 loflyer ARGGHH Matey, that sucks!
Why do you think you can fix it today if you couldn't fix it yesterday?!

984 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:48:10am

re: #973 CapeCoddah

Yes, it is handmade by an elderly neighbor.When my kids got to old for her sweaters, she made them for our dogs. It goes over the front paws and head, then the tube covers the body. Have a pic somewhere...might have to scan it to the comp. Will do later.

What a sweetie!

985 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:48:55am

re: #969 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In Annapolis, MD a few years back, had a Mastiff owners association meeting. Could've sworn it was a Clydesdale owners association meeting.

Yeah, they can get big, 'specially the English Mastiff. You will be hard pressed to find a gentler dog, though, they have no fight instinct. They were bred to chase and hold poachers in the Kings forest. The kings sherriff wanted the pleasure of punishing the poacher. They will, however, sneak up on the oil guy and nearly induce cardiac arrest.

986 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:49:00am

re: #974 LilyGecko

Oh, wow. That really stinks.

She was so physically ill after that first session sitting there with him lying like a rug, that she got very sick with some type of flu bug 2 days later, missed 3 days of work as a dental assistant and they fired her.

The guy is a Lockheed engineer - making $120,000+ - super top secret security clearance. He had the rape expunged - but she still has the paperwork on it. He is a socialized sociopath.

987 yah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:49:34am

When I lived in an old cabin in NC we always had a fallen tree somewhere on the property to chop away at. Our little wood burning stove would really put the heat out.

By the time I got done chopping wood I would be so hot from the excercise that I didn't need a fire.

988 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:50:06am

I had two nightmares. One involved my X finding me and The Kid. The other was about ACORN infiltrating every level of society in an effort to establish a network of tattle-tales.

989 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:50:23am

re: #975 realwest

Huh? I've got friends and relatives who've had to deal with Medicare on stuff like that and they never got turned down - what did the doctor say to Medicare anyway?
Again, though, my sympathies and condolences on your loss.

Not sure, the doctor got the denial through medicare- then the doctor had to cancel the procedure because they couldn't get the approval. Could have been a budgeting decision via medicare.

990 LilyGecko  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:50:29am

And I thought just because I had a headache and didn't have time left over from work to do something fun, my day was awful.

re: #986 DistantThunder

991 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:51:13am

re: #984 MandyManners

What a sweetie!

She is a sweetie!

992 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:51:27am

And now I really must be off...

993 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:51:55am

Our friend's german shephard mix had 12 puppies yesterday. He told us that he's putting us down for 4. LOL

994 yah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:51:56am

re: #971 DistantThunder

Courts are not fair, and anyone who expects them to be will be very disappointed.

995 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:52:06am

re: #971 DistantThunder

Have her call 1-800-779-SAFE. It's the number for the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence. They could be able to help her.

996 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:52:34am
997 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:52:35am

re: #965 LindaMarie
Um, what?!

998 LoFlyer  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:52:47am

re: #979 lifeofthemind

Good question, it booted in safe mode, said it was 24% fragmented, why wouldn't it boot up normally? I did disconnect everything when tryine the second time, the first time it failed the ethernet was attached as it booted, the Mac laptop came up fine.

Your computer will boot in safe mode if you turned it off before it shut down normally. This is fairly common if you had your computer "lock up" on you. Let it complete the defrag, and boot up in safe mode. If it comes up good, then restart or reboot in normal mode. This is a fairly common occurrence with windows. Got to go to work, 'me nic is blue and I have a blackberry to answer you with...

999 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:53:11am

re: #773 LindaMarie

"raspberry" icon

Good idea -- with sound effects. Charles, liven up the room with audio!

FYI, I've suggested a "bong" icon, for when we think someone is inhaling.

/flatulence icon, anyone?

1000 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:53:24am

re: #980 wahabicorridor

What state is she in? NJ also?

Yes

1001 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:53:27am

re: #964 CapeCoddah

Actually, he is a smallish Bull Mastiff (thank God, as he sleeps with us). I will switch my avatar to a pic of the pooches...hang on.

Here youo go FBV, I changed my Avatar to my big, scary marshmallow. His name is Finnbar, but he answers to Buddy also.

1002 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:53:44am

re: #971 DistantThunder

[Link: www.ncadv.org...]

There are moonbats involved but, their goal is to keep women and children safe from DV.

1003 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:54:54am

re: #998 LoFlyer

Your computer will boot in safe mode if you turned it off before it shut down normally. This is fairly common if you had your computer "lock up" on you. Let it complete the defrag, and boot up in safe mode. If it comes up good, then restart or reboot in normal mode. This is a fairly common occurrence with windows. Got to go to work, 'me nic is blue and I have a blackberry to answer you with...

Thanks 29% now grrr

1004 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:55:02am

re: #955 doriangrey

Feeling better than I have any right to, thank god for aspirin... ;)

Good news.
Good morning!

1005 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:55:03am

re: #981 MandyManners

I gave mine a hardcover copy of "Jurassic Park" before it was out in paperback. I never got it back.

1006 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:55:13am

re: #995 MandyManners

Have her call 1-800-779-SAFE. It's the number for the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence. They could be able to help her.

OK, thanks - I'll try that. I called our state bar association and talked to the office of the president just to let them know that they have this glaring hole in legal coverage if this could happen to a rape victim. The gave me the name of the Woman and Justice center in Montclair New Jersey - they said they don't have any lawyers to help her in our county - Burlington.

1007 LilyGecko  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:55:13am

Well, gotta go. See ya later today.

1008 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:55:14am

re: #388 Neo Con since 9-11

I told you this was Savage_Nation

Or Rodan.

1009 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:55:32am

re: #1001 CapeCoddah

Here youo go FBV, I changed my Avatar to my big, scary marshmallow. His name is Finnbar, but he answers to Buddy also.

awww...you should put that on ihasahotdog for captioning

1010 Bumr50  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:55:51am

True Love is up! G'day all! BBL

1011 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:56:02am

re: #1000 DistantThunder

[Link: www.njcbw.org...]

New Jersey Coalition for Battered Women.

1012 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:56:03am
1013 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:56:04am

re: #1001 CapeCoddah

Here youo go FBV, I changed my Avatar to my big, scary marshmallow. His name is Finnbar, but he answers to Buddy also.

The Argentine monsters are unusual, most Mastiffs are extremely gentle.

1014 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:56:11am

re: #965 LindaMarie

Wore: #856 HoosierHoops

Been there done that. They are always gentlemen once they figure out a lady is present at the dinner table.
And I am wise and discreet enough when to make myself scare around the fire pit in the yard.

sorry.. I was running low on coffee..
Jordan arrives here from Camp P. monday and is marrying his high school sweetheart friday. This next week I've be mostly out but opening a account on like flickr so i can post the pictures..

1015 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:56:36am

re: #1006 DistantThunder

OK, thanks - I'll try that. I called our state bar association and talked to the office of the president just to let them know that they have this glaring hole in legal coverage if this could happen to a rape victim. The gave me the name of the Woman and Justice center in Montclair New Jersey - they said they don't have any lawyers to help her in our county - Burlington.

Why not a neigboring county?

1016 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:56:52am

re: #1004 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good news.
Good morning!

Heh heh heh, me+friday night+local pub+5 Stone Pale Ales=Thank god for aspirin... ;)

1017 LoFlyer  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:57:05am

re: #983 realwest

ARGGHH Matey, that sucks!
Why do you think you can fix it today if you couldn't fix it yesterday?!

Cause I figured out was wrong before I came home. I had spent 8 hours beating 'me head against a brickwall and it would take me several hours to perform the fix. Decided to come back in today then spend Friday night working on the issue. The site is animal control, and they were all begging me not to fix the problem on Friday. It's funny how some folks have to absolutely have the computers up and running to do their jobs and others who want the thing down so they don't have to work...

1018 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:57:13am

re: #1001 CapeCoddah

When we first moved here one of the neighbors had an enormous mastiff that ran loose in the neighborhood. He was a giant baby, but when he wanted attention he would come over and lean on you...enough to knock someone over in the hopes of getting his ears scratched.

1019 rightside  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:57:17am

Morning Lizards!

1020 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:57:40am

re: #1013 lifeofthemind

The Argentine monsters are unusual, most Mastiffs are extremely gentle.

Yes, the Argentinean dogs are bred for violence. You can make anything mean.

1021 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:57:47am

re: #989 DistantThunder
"Could have been a budgeting decision via medicare.'
Sure sounds like it - do you know if you're family friend had A,B and C coverage or A,B and J coverage under Medicare?

1022 LoFlyer  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:57:56am

Later mates!

1023 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:58:09am

re: #1016 doriangrey

Heh heh heh, me+friday night+local pub+5 Stone Pale Ales=Thank god for aspirin... ;)

hee hee hee ... so you're the "stone pale" one this morning?!?!

1024 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:58:14am
1025 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:58:23am

re: #1016 doriangrey

Have you tried this?

1026 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:59:08am

re: #1005 Bumr50

I gave mine a hardcover copy of "Jurassic Park" before it was out in paperback. I never got it back.

I let a landlady borrow my copy of De Tocqueville's Democracy in America and Garry Wills's Nixon Agonistes. Never saw either again. Last time I loaned books.

1027 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:59:49am

re: #971 DistantThunder

Last week my close friend found herself sitting in the chair across from her abusive rapist ex-husband in mandatory parenting counseling. She orginally had a lawyer when she went to court 8 years ago for her divorce complete with restraining order for the rape when he broke down the bedroom door.

(Door frame is still broken and splintered.)

So now that she's poor, and he's started punching the son in the head on visitiation, she went to court without a lawyer - and the judge leaned over the bench and yelled at her, told her, that he'd put her in jail, unless she turned over the kids for visitation. Then the judge ordered parenting counseling for the two of them. I was so upset when the judge was yelling at her - that I had to leave the courtroom.

Legal aid said they can't help her because she's already had a private lawyer 8 years ago. The 2 pro bono attorney's she asked for help - told her that they would charge her a fee - even though she's filing for bankruptcy and just lost her job.

Sometimes (often) they (judges) just don't get it. Went through something similar - not nearly so intense with my Ex and the judge was no help. I got through it and I hope she will also. One of the biggest factors is having friends like you. That makes you strong enough to survive. That and having a child that you love and will protect to the point of giving your life. My son and the devastating results I could see happening to him in that environment are what made my mind up to get out. And he is what keep me strong enough to make a new life, and a happier one for both of us.

1028 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:00:03am

re: #1018 srb1976

When we first moved here one of the neighbors had an enormous mastiff that ran loose in the neighborhood. He was a giant baby, but when he wanted attention he would come over and lean on you...enough to knock someone over in the hopes of getting his ears scratched.

LOL, when I stand straight , I still lean slightly, from just that. Finny will send you flying by leaning on you. I have the scars to prove it, as I am known for being clumsy anyway.My friends nickname for me is "Grace"

1029 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:00:07am

re: #995 MandyManners

Have her call 1-800-779-SAFE. It's the number for the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence. They could be able to help her.

Time heals all things...

Friend

1030 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:00:24am

re: #1025 NYCHardhat

but it tastes evil, in all it's flavors

1031 Mich-again  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:00:28am

If you loan someone $20 and then never see them again, you got off cheap.

1032 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:00:40am

re: #1023 pre-Boomer Marine brat

hee hee hee ... so you're the "stone pale" one this morning?!?!

Actually no, four aspirin and four 8oz glasses of water last night about 3am, and I feel great this morning... ;)

1033 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:01:08am

re: #1030 srb1976

Oh it does, but so does vomit.

1034 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:02:02am

re: #1033 NYCHardhat

Oh it does, but so does vomit.

good point...well taken

1035 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:02:37am

re: #1034 srb1976

good point...well taken

Gatorade works well, too.

1036 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:02:55am

Everyone, ding-down No. 388. Report it to Charles.

1037 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:03:30am

re: #1019 rightside
Good morning rightside - how are ya doing today?

1038 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:03:50am

Wow 9 am and kids still sleeping...not quite sure how to act.

1039 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:03:54am

re: #1032 doriangrey

Actually no, four aspirin and four 8oz glasses of water last night about 3am, and I feel great this morning... ;)

I see.

Has Goddess been in yet?
/just trying to keep track of "the opposition"

1040 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:04:08am

re: #1002 MandyManners

[Link: www.ncadv.org...]

There are moonbats involved but, their goal is to keep women and children safe from DV.

Thanks - now the violence is not physical. At the first counseling session the counselor told them to be flexible. So immediately he calls my friend after the session and says his parents are coming into town can he have both kids on Monday night - instead of just one - and instead of 4:30-6:30 can he have them until 7pm. She says she's talk to the 13 year old daughter see if she's willing to go.

Daughter talks to dad - makes agreement that if she goes on Monday she will not have to go on her regular Wedn. so she can attend Young Women's at church - like girl scouts. He agrees.

My friend drives 40 minutes to his house arrives at 7pm - house is pitch dark. She calls his phone, he answers and says: "I'll bring them to the house at 8."
Click and hangs up on her - Which house? She tries repeatedly to call him. Half an hour later he finally picks up the phone and says - "Well I COULD bring them to your house." Click. Mind games. She returns home - and he does not show up with the kids until 9pm.

Daughter asks why Mom was repeatedly "bugging" dad. Daughter says - "He called you at 5 to let you know our plans."

Mother says - Did you see him call?
Daughter: No, he left the room to call you.
Mother says - "Look at my phone log - no call from him at 5pm."
Daughter says angrily - "So he lies, what else is new?"

My friend is being driven crazy by this rapist. And he knows it.

1041 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:04:09am

re: #1029 HoosierHoops

Time heals all things...

Friend

With DV and a child involved, sometimes time only makes it worse.

1042 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:04:13am

re: #1016 doriangrey

Heh heh heh, me+friday night+local pub+5 Stone Pale Ales=Thank god for aspirin... ;)

WooHoo! She is still asleep...fun night
Good morning..
hey dorian..honest to gawd..we get this thing every month of exotic coffees.
I am brewing the official Jack Daniel's Gourmet coffee..wanna a cup?

1043 alien_mind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:04:15am

re: #1031 Mich-againthat's very true.

1044 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:04:34am

re: #1011 MandyManners

[Link: www.njcbw.org...]

New Jersey Coalition for Battered Women.

Thanks Mandy - Ill bookmark it.

1045 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:05:23am

re: #1015 MandyManners

Why not a neigboring county?

I'll try that.

1046 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:05:35am
1047 rightside  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:05:52am

re: #1036 MandyManners

Isn't there some kind of copyright issue with copying comments and such to that other site? Any sea lawyers?

1048 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:06:04am

re: #1036 MandyManners

Everyone, ding-down No. 388. Report it to Charles.

381 is the original post, that one too.

1049 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:06:35am

re: #997 realwest
The men in the military of course. Did I reply to the wrong poster?
If so sorry. Duh, late here and I am tired.
I know the liberal news media says all they do is kill inocent civilians here.
Such lies.

1050 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:06:41am

re: #1036 MandyManners

Everyone, ding-down No. 388. Report it to Charles.

Um, Mandy, the problem post is 381 by some kamikaze troll calling himself Hateful Hater. Neocon since 9-11 just quoted it and then disapproved, He shouldn't be reported, his post should simply be deleted. Its post 381 that needs deleting and the poster should be banned.

1051 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:07:07am

re: #1036 MandyManners

Everyone, ding-down No. 388. Report it to Charles.

I think you mean #381

1052 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:07:20am

re: #1050 Dark_Falcon

Um, Mandy, the problem post is 381 by some kamikaze troll calling himself Hateful Hater. Neocon since 9-11 just quoted it and then disapproved, He shouldn't be reported, his post should simply be deleted. Its post 381 that needs deleting and the poster should be banned.

Charles will figure that out, but, both need to be removed.

1053 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:07:44am

re: #1036 MandyManners

Everyone, ding-down No. 388. Report it to Charles.

That's the cutest_guy isn't it?
I believe he morphed from savage_N.. right?

1054 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:07:48am
1055 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:07:54am

re: #1036 MandyManners
I sure hope you meant #381!

1056 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:08:42am

re: #1038 srb1976
Grateful, very grateful! LOL!

1057 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:08:42am

re: #1040 DistantThunder

Thanks - now the violence is not physical. At the first counseling session the counselor told them to be flexible. So immediately he calls my friend after the session and says his parents are coming into town can he have both kids on Monday night - instead of just one - and instead of 4:30-6:30 can he have them until 7pm. She says she's talk to the 13 year old daughter see if she's willing to go.

Daughter talks to dad - makes agreement that if she goes on Monday she will not have to go on her regular Wedn. so she can attend Young Women's at church - like girl scouts. He agrees.

My friend drives 40 minutes to his house arrives at 7pm - house is pitch dark. She calls his phone, he answers and says: "I'll bring them to the house at 8."
Click and hangs up on her - Which house? She tries repeatedly to call him. Half an hour later he finally picks up the phone and says - "Well I COULD bring them to your house." Click. Mind games. She returns home - and he does not show up with the kids until 9pm.

Daughter asks why Mom was repeatedly "bugging" dad. Daughter says - "He called you at 5 to let you know our plans."

Mother says - Did you see him call?
Daughter: No, he left the room to call you.
Mother says - "Look at my phone log - no call from him at 5pm."
Daughter says angrily - "So he lies, what else is new?"

My friend is being driven crazy by this rapist. And he knows it.

Tha't called "gas-lighting", one of the more potent weapons in mental abuse.

Is your friend keeping a contemporaneous log of all this shit? If not, she needs to do it. I'd suggest she do it in a notebook that she keeps hidden.

1058 Miss Trixie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:08:51am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another beautiful late-fall day with plenty of sinshine perfect for going out to terrorize the 'hood with Lil Miss but that wind from the North! Oy! Cuts right through to the bone and I don't think that cute turtleneck sweater will do much to keep Lil Miss warm.

Have to find her sno-suit that zips up the back.

{realwest} Morning hon *smoochie* Is your computer all better and are you and your mom warm enough?

1059 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:09:07am

re: #1053 HoosierHoops

That's the cutest_guy isn't it?
I believe he morphed from savage_N.. right?

I think so. He's the Satanic Sockpuppet!

1060 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:09:08am

re: #1017 LoFlyer

Big whistle though the teeth - no kidding. Ain't it true!

1061 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:09:18am

re: #1047 rightside

Isn't there some kind of copyright issue with copying comments and such to that other site? Any sea lawyers?

I have no idea.

1062 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:09:21am

re: #1055 realwest

She meant 381.

1063 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:09:37am

re: #1008 Sharmuta

Or Rodan.

Yep- I'm going with Rodan. The fixation on Serbia was the giveaway.

1064 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:10:33am

re: #1049 LindaMarie
Um, to the extent you replied to me: Yes. I'm a vet, but haven't been active duty in 30+ years!

1065 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:10:37am

Yes, it's No 381! Thanks for pointing that out.

Now, who is that ankle-biting bastard?

1066 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:10:56am

re: #1036 MandyManners

Everyone, ding-down No. 388. Report it to Charles.

I reported 388 (because of the quote), but didn't down-ding.
I DID see 381, both down-dinged AND reported that one.

1067 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:10:58am

re: #1053 HoosierHoops

No- it's rodan.

1068 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:11:07am

re: #1065 MandyManners

Rodan

1069 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:11:17am

re: #1053 HoosierHoops

That's the cutest_guy isn't it?
I believe he morphed from savage_N.. right?

Yep.

1070 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:12:03am

re: #1057 MandyManners

Tha't called "gas-lighting", one of the more potent weapons in mental abuse.

Is your friend keeping a contemporaneous log of all this shit? If not, she needs to do it. I'd suggest she do it in a notebook that she keeps hidden.

She has reported this exact behavior to the police when it occurs. He'll not show up for visitation. She'll call him, and then he says: I showed up and you weren't there." later she find that he's filed a police report. So in self defense she had to file police reports when he didn't show up to prove that she was waiting for him.

Judge looked at the stack of police reports and said: "Two people who like to file police reports - let's move on and focus on the future."

1071 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:12:59am

re: #1056 realwest


True enough they're both a bit under the weather and I would just as soon they sleep. But since the better half had surgery monday (shoulder..went great) I've been running 900 miles an hour taking care of him and them and trying to keep them off of him...just seems wierd to have all the quiet

1072 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:13:15am

re: #1069 MandyManners

It's rodan- it's the fixation on serbia that gave it away. That and rodan was always pretty nutso.

1073 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:13:16am

re: #1066 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I reported 388 (because of the quote), but didn't down-ding.
I DID see 381, both down-dinged AND reported that one.

Same here, first I down dinged 388, then reversed it.

1074 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:13:45am

re: #1058 Miss Trixie
Good morning gorgeous! And *smooches* back to you!
Yes, mom is warm this morning and as for my computer I gotta refer you back to my #847 - too painful too repeat!
How are you and Lil Miss doing today?

1075 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:14:24am

381 makes the rest of us look calm reasonable and decent. I say leave it up - with all the down-dings.

1076 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:14:34am

re: #1042 HoosierHoops

WooHoo! She is still asleep...fun night
Good morning..
hey dorian..honest to gawd..we get this thing every month of exotic coffees.
I am brewing the official Jack Daniel's Gourmet coffee..wanna a cup?

Hmmm, sounds interesting... Sure I'll take a cup...

1077 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:14:40am

re: #1068 Sharmuta

Educate the relatively-new lizard, Sharm. What "was" rodan.
Troll? Otherwise-decent-but-over-the-top?

1078 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:14:57am

40%

1079 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:15:43am

re: #1070 DistantThunder

She has reported this exact behavior to the police when it occurs. He'll not show up for visitation. She'll call him, and then he says: I showed up and you weren't there." later she find that he's filed a police report. So in self defense she had to file police reports when he didn't show up to prove that she was waiting for him.

Judge looked at the stack of police reports and said: "Two people who like to file police reports - let's move on and focus on the future."

That man must possess true malice to do such things. He should be stripped of all parental rights. Children should never be in the care of someone like that.

1080 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:15:57am

Mandy - you have 19,000+ karma! = can I touch you...?

1081 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:16:01am

re: #1075 DistantThunder

381 makes the rest of us look calm reasonable and decent. I say leave it up - with all the down-dings.

Do we have a contender for annefrance's dubious title?

1082 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:16:05am

Well, gotta go with my daughter to buy specialty cheeses for the holidays. She works for the distributor for the most amazing products. I get to go to HQ and pick what I want. I'm bringing the pickup truck!

1083 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:16:48am

{Miss Trixie}

Mornin sweetie

I was going to get my shopping started, but Hubby has to run errands first, so I came back for awhile - making coq au vin for dinner tonite - been a long time since I've done that one.

1084 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:17:07am

re: #1071 srb1976Then just relax and enjoy some peace - gurantee you it won't last long.
Sorry to hear about the surgery but glad it went ok - any estimate on recovery time?

1085 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:17:28am

re: #1077 pre-Boomer Marine brat

rodan was a tweaker- liked to fly off the handle. Got banned, tried to sneak back in, got caught, then was given another poster's sock puppet, and then they both got caught. Now rodan, sn and the owner of the sock puppet rodan used run lgf2.

1086 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:17:46am

re: #1070 DistantThunder

She has reported this exact behavior to the police when it occurs. He'll not show up for visitation. She'll call him, and then he says: I showed up and you weren't there." later she find that he's filed a police report. So in self defense she had to file police reports when he didn't show up to prove that she was waiting for him.

Judge looked at the stack of police reports and said: "Two people who like to file police reports - let's move on and focus on the future."

That kind of documentation is good but, she also needs to keep a record of the things the kids say about him, about the things he does that don't rise to the level of reporting to the cops.

1087 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:17:57am

re: #1075 DistantThunder

381 makes the rest of us look calm reasonable and decent. I say leave it up - with all the down-dings.

As long as Hateful Hater (hmm, 'HH'. Maybe a Neo-Nazi. I hate Nazis!) gets banned, I'm OK with that. Nuts like him are neither needed nor wanted around here.

1088 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:18:27am

re: #1072 Sharmuta

It's rodan- it's the fixation on serbia that gave it away. That and rodan was always pretty nutso.

I've not paid attention to rodan's fixations.

1089 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:19:11am

re: #1080 DistantThunder

Mandy - you have 19,000+ karma! = can I touch you...?

I feel the power draining...

1090 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:19:46am

re: #1085 Sharmuta

rodan was a tweaker- liked to fly off the handle. Got banned, tried to sneak back in, got caught, then was given another poster's sock puppet, and then they both got caught. Now rodan, sn and the owner of the sock puppet rodan used run lgf2.

I think I saw them in the grocery store last week. They were in a can marked 'mixed nuts'. :)

1091 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:19:56am

re: #1086 MandyManners

That kind of documentation is good but, she also needs to keep a record of the things the kids say about him, about the things he does that don't rise to the level of reporting to the cops.

Wouldn't it be better to have the kids keep their own records - assuming they're old enough?

1092 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:19:58am

re: #1074 realwest

a capacitor falls off the board!

Holy Sh*t!
(as you may remember, I'm a long-experienced electronics hardware guy)

1093 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:20:26am

re: #1075 DistantThunder
Sorry, already down dinged and reported - that kind of garbage shouldn't be left up around here anyway.

1094 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:20:27am

re: #1084 realwest

He's looking at about 8 weeks, but he says he can already tell the difference.
the people I work for have been nice enough to let me re-arrange my schedule (switched to different job entirely) so I can take care of everyone.

1095 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:20:44am

re: #1079 Dark_Falcon

That man must possess true malice to do such things. He should be stripped of all parental rights. Children should never be in the care of someone like that.

2 years ago when he son was in the hospital with a crushed hand - table at a donut shop tipped over and crushed all his fingers - father met them at the hospital in Philly. Daughter had come with mom but was leaving with dad. Daughter and dad walk down to the parking garage, they remove her little suitcase from Mom's car, they walk back to elevator. Dad says:

"Wait right here I want to make sure I locked the car." Later when Mom comes down to car - the back door is opened at a 45 degree angle - wide open. She talks to the secuirty guard who reviews the tape - but it only show the guy leaving the elevator area - and the camera doesn't cover the section where she parked her car.

She takes a copy of the tape - and later confronts him - she said the look on his face was priceless when he saw that she had a tape - but he refused to confess.

That's sociopathic.

1096 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:20:54am

re: #1080 DistantThunder

Another good site is Patrcia Evans' site about verbal abuse.

[Link: www.verbalabuse.com...]

1097 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:20:54am

re: #1087 Dark_Falcon

I say keep him around. Bacteria is needed in life. We'll just down ding him everytime he says something hateful and stupid.

1098 Lincolntf  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:21:33am

I'd heard a bunch of references to "LGF 2", but never bothered to go to the site until this latest little episode erupted. What a strange use of the Internet that site is. The guy goes to all the effort of setting up/running his own blog and then devotes all of his time discussing a different blog? I'll never understand people.

1099 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:21:34am

re: #1091 wahabicorridor

Wouldn't it be better to have the kids keep their own records - assuming they're old enough?

The teen, maybe. But, isn't that a helluva' burden to place on kids?

1100 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:21:48am

re: #1097 NYCHardhat

I highly doubt the owner of a stalker blog will be allowed to stay.

1101 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:21:52am

re: #1085 Sharmuta

rodan was a tweaker- liked to fly off the handle. Got banned, tried to sneak back in, got caught, then was given another poster's sock puppet, and then they both got caught. Now rodan, sn and the owner of the sock puppet rodan used run lgf2.

Ah ha. Thanks!
/I've heard of lgf2 ... wish I hadn't ... *barf*

1102 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:22:36am
1103 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:22:36am

re: #1091 wahabicorridor

Wouldn't it be better to have the kids keep their own records - assuming they're old enough?

Probably not. They might tell the ex and he might use that information against her. The read I'm getting is that he is vile, but in some ways clever. I wouldn't want to give him any opportunities to hurt her.

1104 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:23:10am

re: #1095 DistantThunder

You might also want to have her check out parental alienation. There is quite a bit of controversy about it (particularly the so-called "malicious mother syndrome") but, there are gems to find.

1105 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:23:15am
1106 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:23:46am

re: #1100 Sharmuta

You're probably right, but I just want lefties to see that we are cleaning our dirty laundry.

1107 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:23:48am

re: #1095 DistantThunder

My ex used to try stuff like that while we were waiting for the separation papers to come thru. One night he came home and said "You'll NEVER have a life without me".

I beat the crap out of him. Never had another problem.

No kids, tho'.

1108 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:24:12am

re: #1103 Dark_Falcon

Probably not. They might tell the ex and he might use that information against her. The read I'm getting is that he is vile, but in some ways clever. I wouldn't want to give him any opportunities to hurt her.

Great point!

1109 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:24:23am

re: #1095 DistantThunder

I'd just say its plain evil. That man walks the devil's path.

1110 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:24:30am

re: #1096 MandyManners

Another good site is Patrcia Evans' site about verbal abuse.

[Link: www.verbalabuse.com...]

re: #1104 MandyManners

You might also want to have her check out parental alienation. There is quite a bit of controversy about it (particularly the so-called "malicious mother syndrome") but, there are gems to find.

Of course in court documents that's what he accuses her of, but the kids are afraid of and despise him.

1111 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:24:30am

re: #1092 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Holy Sh*t!
(as you may remember, I'm a long-experienced electronics hardware guy)

I would probably have just soldered the damn thing back on, but then again I've been doing crap to my computers for years that would make a geek squad dude cry like a little girl.

1112 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:25:21am

re: #1102 ploome hineni

"cargo cult"

*ear-to-ear grin* ... now that is a VERY interesting metaphor

1113 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:25:23am

re: #1099 MandyManners

The teen, maybe. But, isn't that a helluva' burden to place on kids?

Could be - depends on how safe the kids feel with him, I suppose.

1114 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:26:59am
1115 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:27:07am

re: #1106 NYCHardhat

What's really sad is they somehow think they're helping to end jihad with these antics when all they're really doing is exposing their own derangement to the world. Pathetic doesn't begin to describe this.

1116 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:27:17am

re: #1105 ploome hineni

I am impress so many can remember these banned posters

I cannot

My problem is I can remember the phone number of the house i lived in during college...
But it would appear alot of socks are very clever...But eventually you can't hide a lie..as sharm has said..they reveal themselves by their words.

1117 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:27:30am

re: #1092 pre-Boomer Marine brat Yeah, in retrospect it wasn't all that funny, but it was at the time.
I can't imagine that the new HD or the Resorte Disk is gonna be any better since they can't even figure out how to put together the motherboard (yesterday's was the second "new" motherboard that's been shipped to me and the second one that was defective - this is getting effin' old!).

1118 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:27:31am

What is with this LGF2 site? Why do they care? I disagree with some things here but I don't make it an obsession. Why not take a break, go elsewhere or Ignore something? What am I missing about this?

1119 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:27:37am

re: #1100 Sharmuta

I highly doubt the owner of a stalker blog will be allowed to stay.

Hmmm, wasnt avid editor the other person?

1120 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:27:55am

re: #1092 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Holy Sh*t!
(as you may remember, I'm a long-experienced electronics hardware guy)

Yeah, at letting the smoke out that is!

Morning pBMb! Have some coffee!

1121 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:28:06am

re: #1110 DistantThunder

Of course in court documents that's what he accuses her of, but the kids are afraid of and despise him.

Maybe she needs to fight back on those grounds that he is attempting to alienate them from her. Also, his refusal to take parenting time shows that he might be trying to alienate himself and then blame her.

What a fucking mess. I hope he's alone and miserable when he's an old man.

1122 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:28:08am

wow galloping along to 51%

1123 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:28:11am

re: #1119 doriangrey

Yes.

1124 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:28:35am

re: #1094 srb1976
Still a BIG LOAD on ya, enjoy whatever down time you can get!

1125 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:29:13am

G' day all.

The Democrats are complete F*ing idiots.

How the dems plan to save GM? - Cripple Honda! with union card check. (OMG)
The Demo-idiots want to force the farce of anti-competitive/pro-bloat union idiocy on Honda and Toyota.

Unreal.

1126 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:29:17am
1127 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:29:20am

re: #1113 wahabicorridor

Could be - depends on how safe the kids feel with him, I suppose.

From what DT's posted, they don't feel safe with him at all.

Also, an abuser usually has more power of young victims than the other parent. They'll typically do whatever will placate the abuser.

1128 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:30:06am

re: #1125 FrogMarch

G' day all.

The Democrats are complete F*ing idiots.

How the dems plan to save GM? - Cripple Honda! with union card check. (OMG)
The Demo-idiots want to force the farce of anti-competitive/pro-bloat union idiocy on Honda and Toyota.

Unreal.

Unions are a half step to complete socialism.

1129 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:30:19am
1130 Lincolntf  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:30:24am

re: #1118 lifeofthemind

Ditto. I just don't get it. Of course, he might get some sort of vicarious thrill by reading us discussing his silly little site, so I guess I'll just file it under: "Things on the Internet that make absolutely no sense to me".
That file is getting awfully fat, by the way.

1131 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:30:25am

re: #1111 doriangrey

I would probably have just soldered the damn thing back on, but then again I've been doing crap to my computers for years that would make a geek squad dude cry like a little girl.

I hear you, but on the other hand, if one component wasn't soldered properly, might there be a slew of cold-solder joints on that board? I've seen problems with plating on specific components (a batch run from the mfr), and problems with the flow-solder process which the board went through. Don't want to risk either.

1132 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:31:38am

re: #1115 Sharmuta

Life is too short to be pissed all the time.

1133 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:32:04am
1134 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:32:27am

re: #1131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I hear you, but on the other hand, if one component wasn't soldered properly, might there be a slew of cold-solder joints on that board? I've seen problems with plating on specific components (a batch run from the mfr), and problems with the flow-solder process which the board went through. Don't want to risk either.

Agreed, a component falling off may indicate an improper solder reflow temp and profile during assembly. There may be many bad solder joints. A bad solder joint can cause all kinds of flaky intermittent behaviors.

1135 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:32:30am

re: #1125 FrogMarch

G' day all.

The Democrats are complete F*ing idiots.

How the dems plan to save GM? - Cripple Honda! with union card check. (OMG)
The Demo-idiots want to force the farce of anti-competitive/pro-bloat union idiocy on Honda and Toyota.

Unreal.

I for one will welcome our new Green Overlords. With no more dangerous internal combustion transportation we will be able to revert to a gentler greener life based on a symbiotic relationship with trusted animal companions.
/

1136 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:32:53am

re: #1133 ploome hineni

Thank you.

1137 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:32:59am

re: #1098 Lincolntf
It's very difficult to understand people who are whacko obsessed - ya know?
I'd personally think he'd have SOMETHNG better to do with his time.

1138 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:33:13am

re: #1132 NYCHardhat

Life is too short to be pissed all the time.

Ahhh, but is better to be pissed off than pissed on.
/semi

1139 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:33:13am

re: #1121 MandyManners

Maybe she needs to fight back on those grounds that he is attempting to alienate them from her. Also, his refusal to take parenting time shows that he might be trying to alienate himself and then blame her.

What a fucking mess. I hope he's alone and miserable when he's an old man.

The problem is that his tactics will have made this a hard sell. The judge is mostly seeing a whole bunch of paper filed back and forth and wants it to end. The judge does not know this man or see the evil he perpetrates. I'm sure that the ex is neat and well spoken in court. He torments his victim when no one else can see while maintaining polite facade to the world. I repeat: evil, true evil.

1140 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:33:36am

re: #1091 wahabicorridor

Wouldn't it be better to have the kids keep their own records - assuming they're old enough?

I would think it would not be good for one parent to encourage the kids to "keep records" about the other.

1141 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:33:55am

re: #1095 DistantThunder

2 years ago when he son was in the hospital with a crushed hand - table at a donut shop tipped over and crushed all his fingers - father met them at the hospital in Philly. Daughter had come with mom but was leaving with dad. Daughter and dad walk down to the parking garage, they remove her little suitcase from Mom's car, they walk back to elevator. Dad says:

"Wait right here I want to make sure I locked the car." Later when Mom comes down to car - the back door is opened at a 45 degree angle - wide open. She talks to the secuirty guard who reviews the tape - but it only show the guy leaving the elevator area - and the camera doesn't cover the section where she parked her car.

She takes a copy of the tape - and later confronts him - she said the look on his face was priceless when he saw that she had a tape - but he refused to confess.

That's sociopathic.

My mother does that stuff, I can stay well away from her now, but years ago, when I had to go anywhere near her, I would take a friend of mine, who was unknown to her, and every second I spent in my mothers company would be video recorded. I had to do that to protect myself, because every time I would see her, and not do what she wanted me to do, (which was to give her our oldest child, long nasty story) she would call the police and tell them I had hit her. Those video recordings saved my bacon. She was eventually charged with malicious prosecution, filing false police reports, and perjury. I still have not had the false claims she had made before I started recording everything removed from my record. One of the judges was an ass, and a personal friend of hers. The judge refused to recuse herself, even having had a personal friendship with my mother.

1142 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:33:56am
1143 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:34:05am

re: #1114 ploome hineni

cargo cult

Yes, I know -- but thanks for the wiki link, cause it gives this cut-and-paste:

"obtaining the material wealth of the advanced culture through magical thinking, religious rituals and practices"

That's what's so cute about your use of it as a metaphor. I love it!

1144 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:34:14am
1145 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:34:27am

re: #1135 lifeofthemind

I for one will welcome our new Green Overlords. With no more dangerous internal combustion transportation we will be able to revert to a gentler greener life based on a symbiotic relationship with trusted animal companions.
/

Horse shit was a major urban problem at the end of the 19th century.

1146 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:34:33am

re: #1118 lifeofthemind

What is with this LGF2 site? Why do they care? I disagree with some things here but I don't make it an obsession. Why not take a break, go elsewhere or Ignore something? What am I missing about this?

You're not missing anything. How do you explain away the bitter pettiness of some people?

1147 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:34:50am

re: #1135 lifeofthemind

Good morning!

The way the coming winter appears to be shaping up, we'll all need dogsleds.

1148 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:34:54am

re: #1137 realwest

That person should take all that anger and write music/play an instrument. Its very therapeutic.

1149 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:35:10am

re: #1126 ploome hineni

and I am so totally out of it when it comes to sock puppets

Well then..that's about the only thing you are out of touch with.. :)
OMG.. the jack Daniels gourmet coffee is awesome...{hazelnut cream} mmm

1150 NYCHardhat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:35:19am

re: #1138 JCM

Yeah...not really into that myself.

1151 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:36:16am

re: #1118 lifeofthemind
Uh, I'd guess what you're missing is that you're normal and not mentally deranged.

1152 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:36:27am

re: #1142 ploome hineni

hiya toutsss

g'morning, Plooome.

1153 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:36:36am
1154 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:36:44am

re: #1150 NYCHardhat

Yeah...not really into that myself.

I'm with you, it's a waste of energy all of negatively affects you and those around you.

1155 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:36:56am

re: #1128 JCM

Unions are a half step to complete socialism.

The obsolete union business model and the socialist-democrat party are a joint venture.

1156 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:37:25am

re: #1131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I hear you, but on the other hand, if one component wasn't soldered properly, might there be a slew of cold-solder joints on that board? I've seen problems with plating on specific components (a batch run from the mfr), and problems with the flow-solder process which the board went through. Don't want to risk either.

There you go... Being practical and all that shit. If I were practical I would never have overclocked any computer I have owned. No replacing Oscillator chips, no swapping EEPROMS or VLSIC...

1157 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:37:32am

re: #1121 MandyManners
"What a fucking mess. I hope he's alone and miserable when he's an old man."
I hope he's alone and miserable now until he dies.

1158 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:37:50am

re: #1139 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that his tactics will have made this a hard sell. The judge is mostly seeing a whole bunch of paper filed back and forth and wants it to end. The judge does not know this man or see the evil he perpetrates. I'm sure that the ex is neat and well spoken in court. He torments his victim when no one else can see while maintaining polite facade to the world. I repeat: evil, true evil.


Sometimes the Judge gets to see. Did you read yesterday about the prosecutor who ran a Gran Jury that indicted Cheney and Tinkerbell and Mr Moto for being mean to him had a full bore meltdown in court?

1159 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:37:53am

re: #1138 JCM

Ahhh, but is better to be pissed off than pissed on.
/semi

That's a lesson the Sheriff of Rottingham had to learn the hard way.

1160 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:38:09am

re: #1155 FrogMarch

The obsolete union business model and the socialist-democrat party are a joint venture.

I can see a place for unions. But the model needs to be reworked. Steel in the '70s and the UAW now. If they don't budge, they won't have anything.

1161 Miss Trixie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:38:31am

realwest

We're fine, thanks for asking and pretty soon I have to drag out my vacuum - Vinnie the Scream - so that Lil Miss can go hide under the ugly sofa for a while, then I have to attack the rest of the house. Yuck. I hate housework.

{wahabbi} Hiya, toots. Copied your recipe into my favorites and I'll make some perhaps next weekend. I love a good Coq au Vin and it makes the house smell heavenly when it cooks. :D Thanks!

Off to make brekkie for us - scribbled eggs and I'll put some cheddar in hers so she'll make a little piggy of herself. :D

BTW - new avatar. :D

BRB

1162 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:38:33am

re: #1145 JCM

Horse shit was a major urban problem at the end of the 19th century.


Now we send it to Washington, recycling.

1163 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:38:36am
1164 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:38:58am

re: #1158 lifeofthemind

Sometimes the Judge gets to see. Did you read yesterday about the prosecutor who ran a Gran Jury that indicted Cheney and Tinkerbell and Mr Moto for being mean to him had a full bore meltdown in court?

I saw that, it was hilarious. I am amazed the judge did not have the men in white coats remove the nut from the courtroom.

1165 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:39:00am

re: #1157 realwest

"What a fucking mess. I hope he's alone and miserable when he's an old man."
I hope he's alone and miserable now until he dies.

I suspect he is. He may not be fully aware of it, but he is.
I suspect many of his co-workers or employees think he's a complete ass, and he has no clue.

Known a few like this . . .

1166 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:39:29am

re: #1162 lifeofthemind

Now we send it to Washington, recycling.

They concentrate it, and expand the volume.

1167 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:39:35am

re: #1117 realwest

Thanks for the heads-up you gave someone a few minutes ago (ref'ing to yours in the 800's.) I'd been wondering.

Very best wishes.

1168 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:39:48am

re: #1163 ploome hineni

they are sick in the head?

Bingo!

1169 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:40:01am

re: #1151 realwest

Uh, I'd guess what you're missing is that you're normal and not mentally deranged.

Thanks, now I have that in writing, from a professional. Wrong profession but still.

1170 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:40:01am

re: #1158 lifeofthemind

Sometimes the Judge gets to see. Did you read yesterday about the prosecutor who ran a Gran Jury that indicted Cheney and Tinkerbell and Mr Moto for being mean to him had a full bore meltdown in court?

didn't see that. Link? I hope? Sounds most interesting.

1171 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:40:06am
1172 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:40:42am

re: #1120 JCM

Yeah, at letting the smoke out that is!

Morning pBMb! Have some coffee!

Hi there!
Slowed myself down up there on a post.
Am slowly working my way down-thread.

1173 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:40:58am

re: #1171 ploome hineni

I have a probelm
should I go to HomeDepot now

or stay online here?

Go now, before the Christmas crowds get bad.
But we'll miss you.

1174 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:41:11am
1175 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:41:11am

re: #1140 reine.de.tout

I would think it would not be good for one parent to encourage the kids to "keep records" about the other.

Probably - but maybe it could empower the kids? I really don't know - no experience with this stuff, thank goodness.

hey, I sent you another recipe this morning...

1176 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:41:12am

re: #1125 FrogMarch
Good day to ya - nope they are just Dems today!
Just want to bring everyone down to their level of incompetence and hate.
I keep telling ya, there isn't any Democratic Party anymore, it's all Kos, DU, Huffpoo and Mikey Moore.
Real liberals and folks like Scoop Jackson and JFK*
wouldn't get NEAR today's Democratic party.

*reminding folks that today is the 45th anniversary of John F. Kennedy's murder.

1177 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:41:31am

re: #1175 wahabicorridor

Probably - but maybe it could empower the kids? I really don't know - no experience with this stuff, thank goodness.

hey, I sent you another recipe this morning...

OK. got it!

1178 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:41:40am
1179 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:42:08am

re: #1176 realwest

Good day to ya - nope they are just Dems today!
Just want to bring everyone down to their level of incompetence and hate.
I keep telling ya, there isn't any Democratic Party anymore, it's all Kos, DU, Huffpoo and Mikey Moore.
Real liberals and folks like Scoop Jackson and JFK*
wouldn't get NEAR today's Democratic party.

*reminding folks that today is the 45th anniversary of John F. Kennedy's murder.

I mentioned it on my blog with the addendum that the Area 51 crowd needs to get over the whole conspiracy angle.

1180 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:42:10am

re: #1163 ploome hineni

they are sick in the head?

Stats say about 3% of the population is sociopathic. That is 3 out of every 100 people. Chances are most of us know a sociopath or two. One of their best abilities is to make everyone around them question their own sanity, or make their victims look crazy when they tell their story. Such was and is the case with my mother. No one believes a mother would do those things to one of their kids.

1181 iceman  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:42:45am

1171 ploome hineni

you may want to stay online for a few minutes more to review this list of defendants in this lawsuit to see if you are on it

[Link: dockets.justia.com...]

snip...a few below...

Nordic Gods, Presidental Emergency Operation Center, Screen Actors Guild Inc, R James Nicholson, New York Stock Exchange Inc, The Da Vinci Code, Moorish Science Temple of America, Sears Tower, Mike Tyson, Native American Fish Society, Holocaust Survivors, Byzantine Republic Army, Dennis Hopper, Mt. Rushmore, Barbara Walters, First Presbyterian Church, Gordan R Sullivan, Yellow Cab Company, Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of North America, Michael Savage, Dennis Hastert, Green Bay's Lambeau Field, Slobodan Milosevic, Pizza Hut, King James Bible, Scott Peterson, Department of Housing and Urban Affiars, Smithsonian Institute, Robert C Bonner, Ming Dynasty, Ray Nagin, Barry Bonds, Thomas J Ridge, Jenna Bush, Gangs in Hong Kong, United Methodist Church, European Union, Porter Goss, Harrah's Las Vegas Inc, Grand Wizard of Ku Klux Klan, General Motors, Christopher Cox, Proctor & Gamble, Jewish Synagogue's, [Link: www.ebay.com,...] Knights of Malta, AFL-CIO Union, Booker T Washington, Natioal Hockely League "NHL" Players Association, Diane Sawyer, Immigration and Naturalization Service, Verne Minnie Me, Steve Jobbs, Statue of Liberty, Fidel Castro, Brian L Roberts, Comcast Cable Co., Earth Liberation Front, Phil Donahue, Malcom X, Kim Jong II, Geneva Convention, Lee Scott, Arizona Game and Fish Commission, Nelson Rockefeller, National Assocaition of Realtors, Fort Knox, Philadephia Eagles, 2005 Roster, Church of Scientology, World Trade Organizaton, Burt Reynolds, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, Michael A Aquino, Bill O'Reilly, Puerto Rican Nationalist Party, Western Uhion Financial Services, Paula Abdul, United States Holocaust Museum, Sister Souljah, Suha Arafat, Jessie Jackson, Hamid Karzai, Carnival Cruise Lines, The World Court Hague, Ben N Jerry's Icecream, Janet Reno, House of Rothschild, David Stern, International Monetary Fund, Jimmy Dean Sausage Co, Yale Skull and Bones, Sumner Redstone, Computer Hackers and Telephone Phreakers, Mayflower Moving

1182 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:42:59am

re: #1160 JCM

I can see a place for unions. But the model needs to be reworked. Steel in the '70s and the UAW now. If they don't budge, they won't have anything.

No me. I detest the union model. We don't need them. (gone are the days when we did)

1183 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:43:03am

re: #1139 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that his tactics will have made this a hard sell. The judge is mostly seeing a whole bunch of paper filed back and forth and wants it to end. The judge does not know this man or see the evil he perpetrates. I'm sure that the ex is neat and well spoken in court. He torments his victim when no one else can see while maintaining polite facade to the world. I repeat: evil, true evil.

BTDT.

I'll never forget the time we were in court to get the RO extended into a permanent RO. He's 6'4", weighed 250 lbs. and had a 51-inch chest. He showed up wearing a horizontal stripe sweater, with a white stripe across the top of his shoulders.

Alas, the court was predisposed to not believe victims of DV, and refused to grant the extension. Not long after that, I moved across the country. After The Kid was born, he denied paternity and my (then) stupid fucking attorney responded with a motion that locked it up in jurisdictional hell for two years instead of a motion denying that the court had subject-matter jurisdiction.

Then, the fucker filed a motion for full custody of an infant thousands of mile away. Somewhere along the way, he stopped paying spousal support so I contacted my senator to get the paperwork going on some procedure in which his CO would've had to appear before Congress to explain why one of his soldiers was refusing to abide by a court order. (Congressional Inquiry?)

1184 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:43:12am

re: #1153 ploome hineni

think about it...they believe they are entitled to the property of the infidels

Yeah, but the difference is that they've though that for centuries and believed it even when they had more than we did. They also think that we should be their property, which makes them worse than cargo cults by a long margin.

1185 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:43:36am

re: #1153 ploome hineni

think about it...they believe they are entitled to the property of the infidels

I see what you mean. It does fit the Islamist mindset.

1186 3 wood  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:44:00am

Good morning.

Several comments of the market:

1. The DOW surged 494 at the tail end of the day yesterday, mainly on the news that Obama had finally decided on a Treasury Chief. Some people had been doubtful about attributing the 20% drop in the market since election day to Obama at all. The experience of late yesterday should be a good example that the market moves in anticipation of the future. Therefore, Obama's election did have a contributory effect to the market performance, that is indisputable. The only question is how much of an impact did it have, and based on the surge late Friday, it has had a whole lot, at least 25% and probably more like 50%.

2. Some have doubted that the banking industry was set to collapse if the $700 billion bail out was not approved a along with other changes. We have already seen the demise of Wachovia and several other large banks. Citigroup is on the verge of selling out. Then comes this:

Regulators shut down three banks

1187 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:44:03am

re: #1180 CapeCoddah

Stats say about 3% of the population is sociopathic. That is 3 out of every 100 people. Chances are most of us know a sociopath or two. One of their best abilities is to make everyone around them question their own sanity, or make their victims look crazy when they tell their story. Such was and is the case with my mother. No one believes a mother would do those things to one of their kids.

Parents do really messed up things to kids all the time. Thankfully they are not the majority of parents, but you don't have to know a whole lot of people to meet one with lousy parents. Sucks, but true.

1188 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:44:10am

re: #1171 ploome hineni

I have a probelm
should I go to HomeDepot now

or stay online here?

I always decide based on what traffic is/will be like...

1189 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:44:51am

re: #1141 CapeCoddah

My mother does that stuff, I can stay well away from her now, but years ago, when I had to go anywhere near her, I would take a friend of mine, who was unknown to her, and every second I spent in my mothers company would be video recorded. I had to do that to protect myself, because every time I would see her, and not do what she wanted me to do, (which was to give her our oldest child, long nasty story) she would call the police and tell them I had hit her. Those video recordings saved my bacon. She was eventually charged with malicious prosecution, filing false police reports, and perjury. I still have not had the false claims she had made before I started recording everything removed from my record. One of the judges was an ass, and a personal friend of hers. The judge refused to recuse herself, even having had a personal friendship with my mother.

That would've been the time to go to the state supreme court's board on judicial performance or whatever it's called.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

1190 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:45:02am

re: #1176 realwest

Good morning, RW -

Seems that 'thought' and 'liberal' no longer go together. My brother's father-in-law is a 'liberal' - as he stated to us, he's a 'liberal' in the classic sense of wanting to liberate people. It was pretty funny when he went into full, apoplectic Bush Derangement Syndrome when I remarked how cool it was that the US 'liberated' the Iraqis from Hussein, and especially how cool it was that the oppressed Iraqi women were voting.

1191 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:45:16am

re: #1141 CapeCoddah
Y'all ought to report that judge to the appropriate Bar Association or, depending on where you live, Judicial Review Committtee - think of all the damage the mofo's gonna do to other folks who weren't as smart or lucky as you were.

1192 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:45:33am

45 years ago today.

President John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

I was 3 and half, while I don't remember the event, I remember the reactions of the people around me. I was riding on my dads shoulders through Chicago's O'Hare airport. When the busy, noisy, hustling airport came to a complete, quiet, and very still stop when the announcement was made.

1193 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:45:34am

re: #1157 realwest

"What a fucking mess. I hope he's alone and miserable when he's an old man."
I hope he's alone and miserable now until he dies.

I bet he'll still blame his X.

1194 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:45:52am

re: #1176 realwest

Hi Real.
You are so right. The democrat party is no longer the party of JFK.
If JFK were alive today, he would be appalled.

1195 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:46:14am

re: #1187 srb1976

Parents do really messed up things to kids all the time. Thankfully they are not the majority of parents, but you don't have to know a whole lot of people to meet one with lousy parents. Sucks, but true.

It is true. Luckily, most of those kids have one parent, like Mandy, or my dad, who do the right thing. Thank god for those folks. They pay a hell of a price for doing the right thing, too. God bless them all.

1196 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:46:39am

re: #1165 reine.de.tout

I suspect he is. He may not be fully aware of it, but he is.
I suspect many of his co-workers or employees think he's a complete ass, and he has no clue.

Known a few like this . . .

Sociopaths usually are great guys to co-workers. They reserve their assholishness for their families.

1197 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:47:00am

re: #1189 MandyManners

That would've been the time to go to the state supreme court's board on judicial performance or whatever it's called.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

I tried everything, even went to newspapers. But, this is Massachusetts. The courts are as corrupt as the legislature.

1198 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:47:01am

re: #1156 doriangrey

There you go... Being practical and all that shit. If I were practical I would never have overclocked any computer I have owned. No replacing Oscillator chips, no swapping EEPROMS or VLSIC...

Are you aware that increasing VDD to the uP will speed it up?

/heh ... wondering if he'll bite

1199 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:47:10am

re: #1148 NYCHardhat
Perhaps, but then that person would need some sort of talent for something POSITIVE and I'm positive that he doesn't!

1200 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:47:12am

re: #1182 FrogMarch

No me. I detest the union model. We don't need them. (gone are the days when we did)

When I see a new model, I'm thinking of a cooperative one not an adversarial one. One that would be apolitical.

1201 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:47:53am

Her Royal Stoutness is up and demanding breakfast...y'all have fun

1202 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:47:55am

re: #1158 lifeofthemind

Sometimes the Judge gets to see. Did you read yesterday about the prosecutor who ran a Gran Jury that indicted Cheney and Tinkerbell and Mr Moto for being mean to him had a full bore meltdown in court?

Yes, that sometimes happens, but you cannot count on it. Never, ever, make plans that assume the opposition will make a mistake. If you do that, you'll find yourself in a poor position if they play smart. Always assume the other side will make the right play until they make a mistake. Exploit the flaws that have already been exposed, don't simply hope new ones will appear.

1203 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:48:00am

re: #1196 MandyManners

"Assholishness?" I am so stealing that! :)

1204 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:48:40am

re: #1201 srb1976

Her Royal Stoutness is up and demanding breakfast...y'all have fun

cute avatar

1206 3 wood  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:49:02am

re: #1186 3 wood

Following up on my own post, where I accidentally hit "post" is this:

The ongoing number and size of bank's folding. merging, along with the still very large TED spreads and elevated LIBOR rates is proof positive that the banking system had locked up and was on the verge of failure. Billions of dollars were being drained out of money market accounts.

What we have now is a situation not unlike a person who avoids a car accident by some quick thinking and action behind the wheel, later doubting that there would have been a car accident at all.

Oh yes, the banking system was on the verge of melt down. The 700 billion bail out and other actions taken like changing the mark to market at least avoided that. We still are going to go through a bad recession, but we will at least have a functioning banking system to do it with.

Got to run, will be back later with more commentary.

1207 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:49:21am

re: #1182 FrogMarch

Not me. I detest the union model. We don't need them. (gone are the days when we did)

I would go on to say that unions only act to cripple businesses. Sure, wage protection and job protection seem like good ideas, but they are anti-competitive ideas. The UAW killed GM. GM pays "former" workers to sit in a room for 8 hours - doing nothing.

1208 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:49:48am

re: #1161 {Miss Trixie} Awww - that new avatar is SO CUTE! Best of all the ones you've had, including the snowblower guy!

1209 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:50:31am

re: #1198 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you aware that increasing VDD to the uP will speed it up?

/heh ... wondering if he'll bite

Most MB's have the clock speed selector resistors next to the CPU. If you open the case of a store bought machine that was sold as 2.5Ghz and look at the CPU many times you'll find the CPU down clocked and it's spec for more, switch a couple resistors will up-clock it to the max spec.

Or you can go oil immersion, overclock and keep everything within temp specs.

1210 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:51:07am

re: #1197 CapeCoddah

I tried everything, even went to newspapers. But, this is Massachusetts. The courts are as corrupt as the legislature.

Courts cannot ignore Troxel v. Granville.

1211 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:51:34am

re: #1165 reine.de.tout
Hi reine! Yeah, you're probably right - and what's worse is he probably thinks he's cool, ya know.
Dumbshit. Being nasty for the sake of being nasty is definitely a sign of mental derangement.

1212 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:51:34am

re: #1203 Wyatt Earp

"Assholishness?" I am so stealing that! :)

Have fun!

1213 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:51:49am

Still at 51% after more than half an hour.

1214 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:52:38am

re: #1167 pre-Boomer Marine brat Uh, you're welcome but can ya be more specific? What heads up did I give someone?!

1215 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:53:10am

re: #1191 realwest

Y'all ought to report that judge to the appropriate Bar Association or, depending on where you live, Judicial Review Committtee - think of all the damage the mofo's gonna do to other folks who weren't as smart or lucky as you were.

Hey Real, she was a doozy, eventually forced to retire. I was not the only person she screwed. They retired her when they got sick of picket lines outside her courthouse. She was Judge Shirley Lewis, and really, really hated fathers especially.

1216 yah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:53:19am

re: #1180 CapeCoddah

One of their best abilities is to make everyone around them question their own sanity, or make their victims look crazy when they tell their story.

I know of a man who managed to take over a whole company doing that.

1217 legalpad  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:54:13am

re: #1183 MandyManners

You girls have it much tougher. My ex was crazy, had violent fits, but she was 5'2". All I had to do was contend with her stream of ex-con boyfriends. (Who were all stupid.)

1218 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:54:18am

re: #1200 JCM

When I see a new model, I'm thinking of a cooperative one not an adversarial one. One that would be apolitical.

like THAT's going to happen. ;-)

1219 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:54:25am

re: #1171 ploome hineni
Hi ya ploome! Stay here! I have to go out and do some damn chores - well not damn chores, but tomorrow's Mom's 84th birthday and I want to get her another special present today!

1220 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:54:58am

re: #1198 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you aware that increasing VDD to the uP will speed it up?

/heh ... wondering if he'll bite

But can you dissipate the addition heat sufficiently to avoid smoking it? 3 maybe 4 volts... beyond that no way...

1221 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:55:29am

re: #1192 JCM

45 years ago today.

Very early morning, coming onto the mess deck on the carrier in the South China Sea. Dead quiet. Asking someone what was going on.

1222 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:55:40am

re: #1218 FrogMarch

like THAT's going to happen. ;-)

ROFL! You've got a point there.

1223 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:55:57am

re: #1179 Wyatt Earp
But Wyatt, it gives such meaning to their lives, how can ya ask 'em to give it up?!?
/

1224 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:57:14am

re: #1223 realwest

But Wyatt, it gives such meaning to their lives, how can ya ask 'em to give it up?!?
/

Yeah, then all they'll have is Area 51, 9-11, and the Iraq War!

/

1225 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:57:29am

re: #1210 MandyManners

Courts cannot ignore Troxel v. Granville.

They can when the case is in Juvenile court, and the proceedings are sealed. There is no oversight. My mother tried to take our kids, when we refused literally GIVE her our oldest, by going to her judge friend on a Friday at 4:30, with an ex parte emergency petition, and gained custody, on her word. after an investigation, my mother was found to be lying thru her teeth, and the kids were back, by the next Wed. Then she went to DSS, told the same story, and our lives descended into hell.
We spent 10 years and 2 million dollars fighting her in her friends courtroom.

1226 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:57:52am

re: #1207 FrogMarch

Look what the union model's done to the education system in this country, as well as the States' balance sheets. The contracts are a study in stupidity - on the parts of our elected school board members.

Here in my neck of Lesser Obamastan, teachers retire at 55 with the stipulation that their pay is jacked up about 90% in their final 4 years because their pension is based on 75% of their final 4 years' pay average. They typically walk out at $115K on their final year, with first year's pension somewhere at $70K.

Pension's held at that until age 61, when 5 years retroactive 3% is applied; all of a sudden they're at $83K with 3% annual increases. If they live to 85, total pension value is somewhere north of $3.5 million.

1227 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:58:18am

re: #1217 legalpad

You girls have it much tougher. My ex was crazy, had violent fits, but she was 5'2". All I had to do was contend with her stream of ex-con boyfriends. (Who were all stupid.)

He was bigger than me (I'm 5'2" and about 105 lbs.) but, I'm meaner than a dyspeptic rattler when I need to be. And, I had a pregnancy and, later, baby to protect.

1228 Lincolntf  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:58:19am

re: #1223 realwest

Hey RealWest, I woke up yesterday and there was SNOW on the ground. What's up with that? Who'd a thunk that I'd get snow down here before they got snow up in MA? I was not pleased.

1229 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:58:43am

re: #1181 iceman
Who the fuck is Johnathan Lee Riches (the putative plaintiff)?!

1230 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:58:59am

Oddly enough it isn't just hanging. It stays on 51% but the bars on the "Estimated disk usage after defragmentation" graphic keep moving around, so something is happening.

1231 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:58:59am

re: #1209 JCM

Most MB's have the clock speed selector resistors next to the CPU. If you open the case of a store bought machine that was sold as 2.5Ghz and look at the CPU many times you'll find the CPU down clocked and it's spec for more, switch a couple resistors will up-clock it to the max spec.

Or you can go oil immersion, overclock and keep everything within temp specs.

Yeah, but if you increase the board's supply voltage to 50V, you get "flash processing".

/*grin* ... you didn't get it, did you ... have more coffee!

1232 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:59:06am

re: #1225 CapeCoddah

They can when the case is in Juvenile court, and the proceedings are sealed. There is no oversight. My mother tried to take our kids, when we refused literally GIVE her our oldest, by going to her judge friend on a Friday at 4:30, with an ex parte emergency petition, and gained custody, on her word. after an investigation, my mother was found to be lying thru her teeth, and the kids were back, by the next Wed. Then she went to DSS, told the same story, and our lives descended into hell.
We spent 10 years and 2 million dollars fighting her in her friends courtroom.

That must've been before Troxel.

1233 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:59:20am

re: #1225 CapeCoddah

That's terrible!

1234 lawhawk  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:59:29am

re: #1186 3 wood

Good morning.

Several comments of the market:

1. The DOW surged 494 at the tail end of the day yesterday, mainly on the news that Obama had finally decided on a Treasury Chief. Some people had been doubtful about attributing the 20% drop in the market since election day to Obama at all. The experience of late yesterday should be a good example that the market moves in anticipation of the future. Therefore, Obama's election did have a contributory effect to the market performance, that is indisputable. The only question is how much of an impact did it have, and based on the surge late Friday, it has had a whole lot, at least 25% and probably more like 50%.

2. Some have doubted that the banking industry was set to collapse if the $700 billion bail out was not approved a along with other changes. We have already seen the demise of Wachovia and several other large banks. Citigroup is on the verge of selling out. Then comes this:

Regulators shut down three banks

The kicker is that the feds were pushing Citigroup to buy Wachovia over a better offer from Wells Fargo that didn't require government intervention. The feds nearly got their way before backing off. Now, we're about to watch the feds bail out another bank.

1235 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:00:08am

re: #1226 apb1

Look what the union model's done to the education system in this country, as well as the States' balance sheets. The contracts are a study in stupidity - on the parts of our elected school board members.

Here in my neck of Lesser Obamastan, teachers retire at 55 with the stipulation that their pay is jacked up about 90% in their final 4 years because their pension is based on 75% of their final 4 years' pay average. They typically walk out at $115K on their final year, with first year's pension somewhere at $70K.

Pension's held at that until age 61, when 5 years retroactive 3% is applied; all of a sudden they're at $83K with 3% annual increases. If they live to 85, total pension value is somewhere north of $3.5 million.

In WA the WEA is always gripping about class size. When you dig into the numbers there are 12 students to every full time teacher. So way are there 28 kids in every class? 1½ FTE (full time equivalent) teachers aren't in the classroom.

1236 yah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:00:41am

re: #1215 CapeCoddah

I am watching season 6 of 24 right now. Your Mom reminds of Jack bower's father - I thougth it was pretty far fetched that "dad" murdered his other son and put the blame on Jack, but I guess there really are people like that.

1237 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:01:02am

re: #1186 3 wood
Hi 3 wood - good morning to you but I gotta run!
Speak atcha later!

1238 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:01:07am

re: #1233 Sharmuta

That's terrible!

That is the nickel version. I am writing a book. I still cannot believe half of that happened in this country. I am surprised I never ended up in jail. I became less than polite about a year into it.

1239 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:01:41am

re: #1214 realwest

Uh, you're welcome but can ya be more specific? What heads up did I give someone?!

Maybe Miss Trixie, can't remember, asked how your computer was working. You referred them to #847

1240 BBev  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:01:53am

Good morning from up here in the frozen north of New Hampshire.

1241 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:02:09am

re: #1231 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, but if you increase the board's supply voltage to 50V, you get "flash processing".

/*grin* ... you didn't get it, did you ... have more coffee!

ROTFLMAO..."flash processing" yea, that's one way to describe what you would get... You could also describe it as Native American signal processing... Cause you would definitely be sending smoke signals...

1242 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:02:25am

re: #1225 CapeCoddah

They can when the case is in Juvenile court, and the proceedings are sealed. There is no oversight. My mother tried to take our kids, when we refused literally GIVE her our oldest, by going to her judge friend on a Friday at 4:30, with an ex parte emergency petition, and gained custody, on her word. after an investigation, my mother was found to be lying thru her teeth, and the kids were back, by the next Wed. Then she went to DSS, told the same story, and our lives descended into hell.
We spent 10 years and 2 million dollars fighting her in her friends courtroom.


You're a better person than I am. My own reaction to such a situation would get me banned if I explained it.

1243 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:02:53am

re: #1220 doriangrey

But can you dissipate the addition heat sufficiently to avoid smoking it? 3 maybe 4 volts... beyond that no way...

I was being silly. See my 1231.

1244 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:03:22am

re: #1236 yah

I am watching season 6 of 24 right now. Your Mom reminds of Jack bower's father - I thougth it was pretty far fetched that "dad" murdered his other son and put the blame on Jack, but I guess there really are people like that.

There are. Don't doubt it. This time I really gotta go, my dau is standing over me asking why I am not ready to go, when she called to warn me at 6am!. BBL, guys, thanks for the commiseration. The whole thing was a bitch, but, made me stronger and fearless. I will take no shit from anyone ever again.

1245 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:03:56am

re: #1243 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I was being silly. See my 1231.

Saw it... ;p

1246 CapeCoddah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:04:02am

re: #1242 Dark_Falcon

You're a better person than I am. My own reaction to such a situation would get me banned if I explained it.

LOL, Me too, I am parsing words carefully!

1247 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:04:52am

re: #1232 MandyManners

That must've been before Troxel.

I think he's saying that the law didn't really matter in this case. A key agent of the law had decided to disregard the law and her superiors refused to do anything about it. I can't image what that would have been like and I doubt I would have been able to survive it.

1248 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:05:35am

re: #1231 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, but if you increase the board's supply voltage to 50V, you get "flash processing".

/*grin* ... you didn't get it, did you ... have more coffee!

We have testers that have 8 power supplies suppling precision voltages from 5 to 25V. On piece of hardware would blow the 25V fuses, pull it off and power it up no problems. Finally found a design error, that if the solder on one connector was overflowed would short 25V to Gnd. But that shorting pin was floating when off the tester so it didn't show up on bench test.

Not my board, but my previous bosses design... the one that chewed me out for not being more careful in my designs. My design followed the schematic give to me by the test engineer.

1249 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:05:47am

Gotta go and do some things y'all - I hope you ALL have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

1250 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:05:55am

re: #1202 Dark_Falcon

And then for most of us - emotion gets in the way.
Sad but true.

1251 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:06:07am
1252 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:06:55am

re: #1235 JCM

The thing that will flip your mind is to see what the region's cost-per-student is. Here, it's about $10K/student, which comes to $250K per classroom per year. That's WAY more than enough to cover plant and teacher, but then factor in bureaucratic bloat and retirement ...

Obamastan's retirement system's only funded at about 54% - estimated exposure is up to a trillion dollars over the next 40 years. Ugly.

1253 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:07:01am

Interesting link on the top about an American Embassy security officer in London who is in trouble for making blog comments critical of BO.

1254 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:07:35am

re: #1226 apb1

Indeed.
...and pensions everywhere are going broke. Time for another government bail out.

1255 songbird  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:07:35am

Good morning, residents of the Lizard Realm!

1256 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:07:48am

re: #1252 apb1

The thing that will flip your mind is to see what the region's cost-per-student is. Here, it's about $10K/student, which comes to $250K per classroom per year. That's WAY more than enough to cover plant and teacher, but then factor in bureaucratic bloat and retirement ...

Obamastan's retirement system's only funded at about 54% - estimated exposure is up to a trillion dollars over the next 40 years. Ugly.

Only 10K? You guys are getting a bargain...
/

1257 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:09:37am

re: #1255 songbird

Good morning, residents of the Lizard Realm!


Good Morning Songbird..Good to see you!
How are you this fine day?

1258 BBev  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:09:43am

re: #1248 JCM

We have testers that have 8 power supplies suppling precision voltages from 5 to 25V. On piece of hardware would blow the 25V fuses, pull it off and power it up no problems. Finally found a design error, that if the solder on one connector was overflowed would short 25V to Gnd. But that shorting pin was floating when off the tester so it didn't show up on bench test.

Not my board, but my previous bosses design... the one that chewed me out for not being more careful in my designs. My design followed the schematic give to me by the test engineer.

My wife when she was in better times took a design by the company she was working for, she redesigned it cut the time in half to produce it with less people and end the end she got all kinds of crap for not be faster, WTF.

1259 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:10:09am

re: #1254 FrogMarch

The killer is that it's a State issue. The moron educrats whine about not getting enough local money, and that the State should pay more.

Where does the State get its money, edu-moron?

So they'll want a Federal bailout.

So where does the Federal Gov get its money, edu-moron?

Makes me sick.

1260 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:10:29am

anybody see my link about Obama and his corned beef.

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the auto industry ?
A: I got the corned beef

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the incoming Russian ICBM's?
A: I got the corned beef

The guy reminds of of Rainman

1261 Defogger  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:11:04am

re: #1251 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]
Web Cams alone tell the truth of Al Gores global warming lies and fraud.

Whats up with all the white stuff Al, temperature got your number.

Haven't seen Al Gore in the news much, lately.
Heh.

1262 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:11:14am

re: #1255 songbird

Good Morning.

1263 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:11:16am

re: #1248 JCM

We have testers that have 8 power supplies suppling precision voltages from 5 to 25V. On piece of hardware would blow the 25V fuses, pull it off and power it up no problems. Finally found a design error, that if the solder on one connector was overflowed would short 25V to Gnd. But that shorting pin was floating when off the tester so it didn't show up on bench test.

Not my board, but my previous bosses design... the one that chewed me out for not being more careful in my designs. My design followed the schematic give to me by the test engineer.


Hmmm,

careful in my designs

somehow trace crosstalk comes to mind when I read that.

1264 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:11:45am

Let's make a deal, I promise to pay you $100,000 for the next 30 years and you promise to pay me $100,000 a year for the next 30 years and we both agree to get the Chinese to pay for it in return for pretty pieces of paper and a promise backed by the work of some other guy living next door. This has to work, its high finance and we are oh so sophisticated.

1265 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:11:54am

re: #1247 Dark_Falcon

I think he's saying that the law didn't really matter in this case. A key agent of the law had decided to disregard the law and her superiors refused to do anything about it. I can't image what that would have been like and I doubt I would have been able to survive it.

You would've. When it comes to court and kids, parents learn how to tie a knot onto the rope even when they're at the end of it.

1266 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:13:18am

re: #1256 JCM

Trick is, it's regional. The wealthy areas pony up $15K-$20K per student, and the poorer ones are still at $5K-$8K per student.

Problem is, most of the money's not going to teaching the kids - it's going to pay for all the bloat and inefficiency of the system, especially to the union contract conditions.

Obamastan has a special bonus. State Constitution has a special clause that basically states that once a pension level is granted, it can never be rescinded or reduced. Wonder how THAT got in there?

1267 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:13:27am

re: #1248 JCM

Heh.

A friend got a batch of boards from a vendor which had been partly drilled with dull bits. Interior layers damaged. NEAR-shorts created when the vias were plated.

During oven burn-in, boards began frying -- seemingly random. Shorts were being created by temperature stress.

Massive hair-pulling time.

1268 lawhawk  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:13:41am

re: #1260 Shug

anybody see my link about Obama and his corned beef.

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the auto industry ?
A: I got the corned beef

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the incoming Russian ICBM's?
A: I got the corned beef

The guy reminds of of Rainman

Sooner or later, someone is going to have to answer those questions when he's in the White House. If no one does, it's going to be a very long and painful four years.

He can't feign failing to hear questions for years on issues as important as the auto bailout. I can understand why he wants to play coy on the auto bailout since he's not yet in office and the Bush Administration is trying to roll things up for Obama to hit the ground running, but he's got to have an opinion on that - and diverting attention by saying he got the corned beef is just so much hash.

1269 legalpad  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:13:57am

re: #1227 MandyManners

He was bigger than me (I'm 5'2" and about 105 lbs.) but, I'm meaner than a dyspeptic rattler when I need to be. And, I had a pregnancy and, later, baby to protect.

Mamas are the toughest things of all. For all practical purposes, I was my first threes mother. I had to protect them from her and her stupid boyfriends. They were ages 6, 4, and 1.

1270 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:14:37am

re: #1267 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh.

A friend got a batch of boards from a vendor which had been partly drilled with dull bits. Interior layers damaged. NEAR-shorts created when the vias were plated.

During oven burn-in, boards began frying -- seemingly random. Shorts were being created by temperature stress.

Massive hair-pulling time.

How many layers on the boards?

1271 Defogger  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:15:32am

re: #1260 Shug

anybody see my link about Obama and his corned beef.

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the auto industry ?
A: I got the corned beef

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the incoming Russian ICBM's?
A: I got the corned beef

The guy reminds of of Rainman

"Present!"

1272 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:15:34am

re: #1258 BBev

My wife when she was in better times took a design by the company she was working for, she redesigned it cut the time in half to produce it with less people and end the end she got all kinds of crap for not be faster, WTF.

Sounds familiar. Design I'm working on now engineering board for handtesting and test development. The boss want's eight sites to speed things up. I'm telling him he'll be spending 2-4x and not gaining any speed over a two site. It's not a parallel test it's serial, so test time per unit x units, plus the time it takes to load the units into the test. The design time and cost of a 8 unit board vs. a 2 unit gains nothing.

1273 garycooper  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:16:03am

If Johnny Cash had been born an Irishman, the music would have been more lilting.

1274 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:16:31am

re: #1270 doriangrey

How many layers on the boards?

Don't know. Probably 6 or more.

1275 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:16:59am

re: #1273 garycooper

If Johnny Cash had been born an Irishman, the music would have been more lilting.

A Duo, Cash and Carey.

1276 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:17:28am

re: #1267 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh.

A friend got a batch of boards from a vendor which had been partly drilled with dull bits. Interior layers damaged. NEAR-shorts created when the vias were plated.

During oven burn-in, boards began frying -- seemingly random. Shorts were being created by temperature stress.

Massive hair-pulling time.

Our factory manhandles boards, so badly they'll damage the corners so badly gnd and power planes get shorted, or pull them off equipment incorrectly and cause cracks which creates all kinds of havoc.

1277 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:17:39am

re: #1269 legalpad

Mamas are the toughest things of all. For all practical purposes, I was my first threes mother. I had to protect them from her and her stupid boyfriends. They were ages 6, 4, and 1.

Bless your heart!

1278 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:18:01am

Over 50 minutes, still at 51%, but it is doing something.

1279 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:18:10am

re: #1272 JCM

Sounds familiar. Design I'm working on now engineering board for handtesting and test development. The boss want's eight sites to speed things up. I'm telling him he'll be spending 2-4x and not gaining any speed over a two site. It's not a parallel test it's serial, so test time per unit x units, plus the time it takes to load the units into the test. The design time and cost of a 8 unit board vs. a 2 unit gains nothing.

And your boss cant see that? Hell he'll not only not get more speed, he'll lose speed. Serial testing of 8 boards is going to take longer than just 2.

1280 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:18:17am

re: #1275 lifeofthemind

A Duo, Cash and Carey.

Cash and U2..It would have been a classic..

1281 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:18:32am

re: #1278 lifeofthemind

Over 50 minutes, still at 51%, but it is doing something.

Installing Vista?

1282 DistantThunder  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:19:18am

re: #1141 CapeCoddah

My mother does that stuff, I can stay well away from her now, but years ago, when I had to go anywhere near her, I would take a friend of mine, who was unknown to her, and every second I spent in my mothers company would be video recorded. I had to do that to protect myself, because every time I would see her, and not do what she wanted me to do, (which was to give her our oldest child, long nasty story) she would call the police and tell them I had hit her. Those video recordings saved my bacon. She was eventually charged with malicious prosecution, filing false police reports, and perjury. I still have not had the false claims she had made before I started recording everything removed from my record. One of the judges was an ass, and a personal friend of hers. The judge refused to recuse herself, even having had a personal friendship with my mother.

That's horrible. It's a wonder you are sane at all.

1283 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:19:29am

re: #1278 lifeofthemind

Over 50 minutes, still at 51%, but it is doing something.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE. SHOOT IT. SHOOT IT NOW.

1284 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:20:02am

re: #1278 lifeofthemind

Over 50 minutes, still at 51%, but it is doing something.

Did you outsource this to the Federal Government?

1285 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:21:33am

re: #1274 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Don't know. Probably 6 or more.

Ouch, no way to fix that... I've fixed cracks in 2 or 3 layer laminates by physically jumping the cracked traces with wire before, but that's pretty much impossible with that many layers.

1286 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:21:55am

Obama’s Radio Address
Published: November 22, 2008

Good morning.

The news this week has only reinforced the fact that we are facing an economic crisis of historic proportions. Financial markets faced more turmoil. New home purchases in October were the lowest in half a century. Five-hundred-forty-thousand more jobless claims were filed last week, the highest in 18 years. And we now risk falling into a deflationary spiral that could increase our massive debt even further.

While I’m pleased that Congress passed a long-overdue extension of unemployment benefits this week, we must do more to put people back to work and get our economy moving again. We have now lost 1.2 million jobs this year, and if we don’t act swiftly and boldly, most experts now believe that we could lose millions of jobs next year.

There are no quick or easy fixes to this crisis, which has been many years in the making, and it’s likely to get worse before it gets better. But January 20th is our chance to begin anew — with a new direction, new ideas, and new reforms that will create jobs and fuel long-term economic growth.

I have already directed my economic team to come up with an Economic Recovery Plan that will mean 2.5 million more jobs by January of 2011 — a plan big enough to meet the challenges we face that I intend to sign soon after taking office. We’ll be working out the details in the weeks ahead, but it will be a two-year, nationwide effort to jumpstart job creation in America and lay the foundation for a strong and growing economy. We’ll put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges, modernizing schools that are failing our children, and building wind farms and solar panels; fuel-efficient cars and the alternative energy technologies that can free us from our dependence on foreign oil and keep our economy competitive in the years ahead.

These aren’t just steps to pull ourselves out of this immediate crisis; these are the long-term investments in our economic future that have been ignored for far too long. And they represent an early down payment on the type of reform my administration will bring to Washington — a government that spends wisely, focuses on what works, and puts the public interest ahead of the same special interests that have come to dominate our politics.

I know that passing this plan won’t be easy. I will need and seek support from Republicans and Democrats, and I’ll be welcome to ideas and suggestions from both sides of the aisle.

But what is not negotiable is the need for immediate action. Right now, there are millions of mothers and fathers who are lying awake at night wondering if next week’s paycheck will cover next month’s bills. There are Americans showing up to work in the morning only to have cleared out their desks by the afternoon. Retirees are watching their life savings disappear and students are seeing their college dreams deferred. These Americans need help, and they need it now.

The survival of the American Dream for over two centuries is not only a testament to its enduring power, but to the great effort, sacrifice, and courage of the American people. It has thrived because in our darkest hours, we have risen above the smallness of our divisions to forge a path towards a new and brighter day. We have acted boldly, bravely, and above all, together. That is the chance our new beginning now offers us, and that is the challenge we must rise to in the days to come. It is time to act. As the next president of the United States, I will. Thank you.

1287 BBev  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:22:23am

re: #1272 JCM

Sounds familiar. Design I'm working on now engineering board for handtesting and test development. The boss want's eight sites to speed things up. I'm telling him he'll be spending 2-4x and not gaining any speed over a two site. It's not a parallel test it's serial, so test time per unit x units, plus the time it takes to load the units into the test. The design time and cost of a 8 unit board vs. a 2 unit gains nothing.

My wife did testing and had explained it all to me many times, I understand everything you just said, why would he not want parallel testing?

1288 BBev  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:22:44am

re: #1281 JCM

Installing Vista?

I like Vista

1289 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:22:56am

re: #1265 MandyManners

You would've. When it comes to court and kids, parents learn how to tie a knot onto the rope even when they're at the end of it.

I doubt it. When I'm pushed like that long term I do one of two things:

a. Concede the thing the other side wants. In case like the one Code Coddah outlined though, my probable response would be..
b. Eventually, I just explode at the other side. In this case, that explosion would be violent and I'd be imprisoned.

That's a large part of why I do not wish to have children. I'm not that stable. My parents did a fine job raising me and my sister, but I am not my father's equal, sad to say.

1290 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:23:01am

re: #1281 JCM

Installing Vista?


No defragging in Safe Mode after it wouldn't boot this morning, see my above posts, running an HP296 with an AMD 3000 @ 2.16GHz, 120 GB HD and a NVIDIA FX 5200. Not a Vista machine, XP SP3.

1291 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:23:29am

re: #1288 BBev

I like Vista

Vista California, or Microsoft Vista?

1292 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:23:59am

re: #1285 doriangrey

Ouch, no way to fix that... I've fixed cracks in 2 or 3 layer laminates by physically jumping the cracked traces with wire before, but that's pretty much impossible with that many layers.

You need the netlist, schematics and board layout. Ohm out all the affected circuits, find which ones are bad and blue wire from point A to B. It's possible to fix high layer count boards... if you know everything about it.

1293 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:09am

Hateful Hater is blocked.

1294 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:14am

re: #1286 JCM

I think what he just said was, "Get to work, we need to tax the bejesus out of you. And if you are one of those eeevil job creators, we need to regulate you until you are unprofitable"

1295 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:15am
1296 legalpad  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:21am

re: #1277 MandyManners

Bless your heart!

Thanks, Mandy. They are blessing me now.
You know, I told their mother that in a couple of decades they would be looking her in the eye and asking her why. They did. All of them even moved in with her for a time in their late teens. They formed their own conclusions and two of them will barely speak to her. I've seen the same with abusive fathers too. They get old and in poor health and want to come see their grandkids. They get rejected and go off and die alone.

1297 Defogger  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:26am

re: #1286 JCM

Obama’s Radio Address
Published: November 22, 2008

Have you spoken with China, to see if they are willing to pay for all this?

1298 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:29am

re: #1290 lifeofthemind

No defragging in Safe Mode after it wouldn't boot this morning, see my above posts, running an HP296 with an AMD 3000 @ 2.16GHz, 120 GB HD and a NVIDIA FX 5200. Not a Vista machine, XP SP3.

Ummm, safe mode with network access?

1299 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:32am

re: #1286 JCM

Obama’s Radio Address
Published: November 22, 2008

Economic Recovery Plan = We're screwed.

1300 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:24:34am

re: #1293 MandyManners

Hateful Hater is blocked.

Thank you, Stinky!

1301 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:11am

re: #1290 lifeofthemind

No defragging in Safe Mode after it wouldn't boot this morning, see my above posts, running an HP296 with an AMD 3000 @ 2.16GHz, 120 GB HD and a NVIDIA FX 5200. Not a Vista machine, XP SP3.

How much free space on the drive. If you don't have around 10% free space defrag runs out of open blocks to use.

1302 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:27am

Woohoo after hanging for an an hour it moved to 52%, who says there is no progress in life?

1303 legalpad  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:29am

bbl

1304 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:37am

re: #1293 MandyManners

Hateful Hater is blocked.

I still think he was Mogdi.

1305 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:43am

re: #1276 JCM

Our factory manhandles boards, so badly they'll damage the corners so badly gnd and power planes get shorted, or pull them off equipment incorrectly and cause cracks which creates all kinds of havoc.

Prior employer has BI boards w/ several 125 pin high density connectors for data lines. Also has a machine-seating option for the BIBs, for use in the production environment.

Lining up those 125 pin connectors can be ticklish. Imagine what can happen if you use the let-the-machine-grab-the-board-and-pull-it-in feature.

Yep.

1306 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:47am

re: #1296 legalpad

Thanks, Mandy. They are blessing me now.
You know, I told their mother that in a couple of decades they would be looking her in the eye and asking her why. They did. All of them even moved in with her for a time in their late teens. They formed their own conclusions and two of them will barely speak to her. I've seen the same with abusive fathers too. They get old and in poor health and want to come see their grandkids. They get rejected and go off and die alone.

Serves them right!

1307 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:52am

re: #1294 rawmuse

Bleah - is it Obomber that doesn't understand those are completely contrary, or his speechwriter?

1308 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:25:53am

re: #1304 rawmuse

I still think he was Mogdi.

Rodan.

1309 x-wing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:26:07am

re: #1271 Defogger

"Present!"

Here's our next POTUS. Votes to bail out the banks, sees that it didn't do squat, and now the auto industry wants' money and instead of taking a side, he resigns his Senate seat, and goes to lunch.

We're sooo screwed!

1310 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:26:15am

re: #1292 JCM

You need the netlist, schematics and board layout. Ohm out all the affected circuits, find which ones are bad and blue wire from point A to B. It's possible to fix high layer count boards... if you know everything about it.

Possible yes, but practical? The cost of doing that has to be more than replacing the board...

1311 BBev  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:26:27am

re: #1291 doriangrey

Vista California, or Microsoft Vista?

Microsoft

1312 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:26:29am

re: #1293 MandyManners

Hateful Hater is blocked.

I missed his hateful hate.

not complaining

1313 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:26:38am

381 and 388 have been deleted.

1314 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:26:38am

re: #1298 doriangrey

Ummm, safe mode with network access?

No, thought it was best to keep it simple, why?

1315 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:26:52am

re: #1293 MandyManners

Hateful Hater is blocked.

Another troll bites the dust.

1316 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:27:05am
1317 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:27:14am

My Victory in Iraq post at my blog:

A hearty salute to the troops!

Let the record reflect the great truth: the US led coalition defeated Saddam Hussein and ousted a fascist regime responsible for the murders of upwards of a million people and the displacement of millions more. Let it further show that Democracy's enemies, Syria, Iran, Hezbollah and al Qaeda, in conjunction with survivors of Saddam's regime, launched a vicious terror war that killed tens of thousands of Iraq's civilians and thousands of coalition troops and injured many more. Despite despite defeatism and craven indifference from "well meaning," "peace loving" fools who believed that a military defeat to al Qaeda and the Iranian axis was somehow in humanities best interests, a great victory is won. Iraq is now more peaceful than Chicago and has a bright future as the most democratic Arab state in the middle east.

Not only must we salute the brilliant military leadership that turned defeat into victory and a few courageous political leaders who did not accept defeat as an option, we must honor the sacrifice of the troops and their families who demonstrated time and again that they are the best America has to offer.

1318 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:27:23am

I have arrived.

Finally got my home computer back after a crash and upgrade.

I'm pretty psyched about that.

1319 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:27:26am

re: #1301 JCM

How much free space on the drive. If you don't have around 10% free space defrag runs out of open blocks to use.

91% free

1320 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:27:41am

That was Rodan, by the way.

1321 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:27:51am

re: #1314 lifeofthemind

No, thought it was best to keep it simple, why?

Just though maybe you were posting from that computer...

1322 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:28:22am

re: #1312 Shug

I missed his hateful hate.

not complaining

It was nasty.

1323 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:28:45am

His real name is Jay Pagan.

1324 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:28:48am

re: #1320 Charles

That was Rodan, by the way.

Thanks for confirming what we all suspected... ;)

1325 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:29:16am

re: #1305 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Prior employer has BI boards w/ several 125 pin high density connectors for data lines. Also has a machine-seating option for the BIBs, for use in the production environment.

Lining up those 125 pin connectors can be ticklish. Imagine what can happen if you use the let-the-machine-grab-the-board-and-pull- it-in feature.

Yep.

The other killer, the factor would put bad boards on a shelf. Then when they run out of good boards ship all of them to me screaming LINES DOWN. Lines down messages go to the CEO, the report would be that hardware was being repaired (my name) not that the factory sat on bad boards till they were out.

That was a fun meeting telling the factory they screwed the pooch.

1326 garycooper  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:29:39am

re: #1275 lifeofthemind

“I'd like to wear a rainbow every day, and tell the world that everything is o.k. But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back. Until things are brighter, I'm the Man in Black.”

1327 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:01am

re: #1323 Charles

His real name is Jay Pagan.

I thought his real name was Asshole.

1328 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:02am

re: #1321 doriangrey

Just though maybe you were posting from that computer...

Posting from my Macbook

1329 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:06am

Jay Pagan's puppet
Blasted into hyperspace
By stinky Beaumont

1330 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:08am

re: #1315 Dark_Falcon

Another troll bites the dust.

That song, and Beast of Burden, were two played at my friend's wedding reception. She had a quirky sense of humor.

1331 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:14am

re: #1285 doriangrey

Ouch, no way to fix that... I've fixed cracks in 2 or 3 layer laminates by physically jumping the cracked traces with wire before, but that's pretty much impossible with that many layers.

We're talking 48v-to-ground shorts here. 48V PS rated at 200 amps.

/the flashes were not bright enough to be seen over in Fort Worth, however ... (-:

1332 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:19am

re: #1310 doriangrey

Possible yes, but practical? The cost of doing that has to be more than replacing the board...

In my case some of my test boards can cost $5 to $10k...

1333 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:45am

re: #1325 JCM

The other killer, the factor would put bad boards on a shelf. Then when they run out of good boards ship all of them to me screaming LINES DOWN. Lines down messages go to the CEO, the report would be that hardware was being repaired (my name) not that the factory sat on bad boards till they were out.

That was a fun meeting telling the factory they screwed the pooch.

Where is your QC in all of this?

1334 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:30:54am

re: #1330 MandyManners

Beast of Burden? That's brutal!

1335 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:31:00am

I dont see how we are to become energy independent with wind and solar power. How about drill baby drill and a few nuke plants.

1336 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:31:30am

Isn't Jay pagan the fellow who runs some insignificant LGF stalker site with the truck driver who's wife left him ?

1337 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:32:15am

re: #1333 doriangrey

Where is your QC in all of this?

Only when yield drops does QC stick their nose in. TQC isn't a factory yet...
We still cut corners to make the schedule, then when the cut corner bites back fingers point...

1338 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:32:17am

re: #1336 Shug

Yes- and what a mighty blow he struck against jihad last night with his rantings.

1339 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:32:27am

re: #1293 MandyManners

Hateful Hater is blocked.

Good news. Thanks.

1340 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:32:28am
1341 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:32:43am

re: #1338 Sharmuta

Yes- and what a mighty blow he struck against jihad last night with his rantings.


Nobody blows like Jay

1342 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:32:54am

re: #1334 apb1

Beast of Burden? That's brutal!

Like I said, she had a quirky sense of humor.

1343 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:33:01am

re: #1336 Shug

Isn't Jay pagan the fellow who runs some insignificant LGF stalker site with the truck driver who's wife left him ?

That sounds like the plot for a Sitcom being pitched to the Frog network.

1344 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:33:11am

re: #1320 Charles

Darn my money was on savage

1345 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:33:28am

re: #1335 Wishing

I dont see how we are to become energy independent with wind and solar power. How about drill baby drill and a few nuke plants.

Oil and nuclear power are evil! You are evil for suggesting them!

/moonbat

1346 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:33:35am

re: #1344 Neo Con since 9-11

The serbia fixation gave it away.

1347 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:34:00am

re: #1332 JCM

In my case some of my test boards can cost $5 to $10k...

Ahhh I see, I was thinking more in the $100.00 to $300.00 range. Are you a EE? Your bench time still has to be a pretty penny...

1348 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:34:15am

re: #1325 JCM

The other killer, the factor would put bad boards on a shelf. Then when they run out of good boards ship all of them to me screaming LINES DOWN. Lines down messages go to the CEO, the report would be that hardware was being repaired (my name) not that the factory sat on bad boards till they were out.

That was a fun meeting telling the factory they screwed the pooch.

LOL!

1349 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:34:57am

re: #1345 Dark_Falcon

Oil and nuclear power are evil! You are evil for suggesting them!

/moonbat

Well this guy is a nutcase. He says let's use what WORKS. Our own oil and nuke plants WORK. He is full of the hot air he hopes to harness.

1350 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:35:13am

re: #1337 JCM

Only when yield drops does QC stick their nose in. TQC isn't a factory yet...
We still cut corners to make the schedule, then when the cut corner bites back fingers point...

Working out of somebodies garage?

1351 The Hoopster  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:35:18am

re: #1344 Neo Con since 9-11

Darn my money was on savage

me too..

1352 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:35:42am

re: #1344 Neo Con since 9-11

Darn my money was on savage

Too articulate, and there wasn't a mention about some woman being a "skank".

1353 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:36:13am

re: #1347 doriangrey

Ahhh I see, I was thinking more in the $100.00 to $300.00 range. Are you a EE? Your bench time still has to be a pretty penny...

Product Engineering Tech, I do all the test hardware for taking a chip from design to production, then Test Engineering handles production. But TE and PE have a lot of cross over.

1354 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:36:38am

re: #1352 MandyManners

snicker

1355 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:37:06am

The other thing that makes me mad: when he starts talking about repairing infrastructure, that means more gubmint jobs. More people on the dole. This is NOT how one grows the economy. But it WILL swell the ranks of the donks.

1356 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:37:50am

Without energy what kind of Civilization are they looking at? 18th century? 14th century? or 7th century? I think I smell a winner.

1357 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:38:29am

re: #1353 JCM

Product Engineering Tech, I do all the test hardware for taking a chip from design to production, then Test Engineering handles production. But TE and PE have a lot of cross over.

May I ask exactly what you guys are making? It's got to be fun, well other than the hair pulling frustration part... ;)

1358 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:38:32am

re: #1356 lifeofthemind

Without energy what kind of Civilization are they looking at? 18th century? 14th century? or 7th century? I think I smell a winner.

No kidding...Dark Ages will look enlightened. LOL

1359 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:38:43am

re: #1350 doriangrey

Working out of somebodies garage?

LOL! Sounds like it but no. The dynamics are interesting. We've got a new division VP making changes in the right direction.

Blackberry Storm our chip controls the touchscreen interface.

1360 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:38:52am

re: #1347 doriangrey

Ahhh I see, I was thinking more in the $100.00 to $300.00 range. Are you a EE? Your bench time still has to be a pretty penny...

Bio and Chem -- which, working in electronics, means he just MIGHT be moonlighting as a Dr. Frankenstein too.

/watch out for jcm, dorian!

1361 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:39:27am

re: #1355 Wishing

The other thing that makes me mad: when he starts talking about repairing infrastructure, that means more gubmint jobs. More people on the dole. This is NOT how one grows the economy. But it WILL swell the ranks of the donks.

Concur.

1362 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:39:36am

re: #1354 Shug

snicker

Well, it was a cheap shot.

1363 Last Mohican  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:40:27am

re: #1260 Shug

anybody see my link about Obama and his corned beef.

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the auto industry ?
A: I got the corned beef

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the incoming Russian ICBM's?
A: I got the corned beef

The guy reminds of of Rainman

And people didn't believe me when I said it's possible for a president to vote "present."

1364 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:40:40am

re: #1362 MandyManners

Well, it was a cheap shot.

It was spot on.

I'd love to interview his ex. OMG, that poor woman

1365 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:40:47am

re: #1359 JCM

LOL! Sounds like it but no. The dynamics are interesting. We've got a new division VP making changes in the right direction.

Blackberry Storm our chip controls the touchscreen interface.

Sweet...

1366 garycooper  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:40:56am

"Success is having to worry about every damn thing in the world, except money."

Well, enough about the Man In Black for now. I came late to an appreciation of his talent, but now I'm hooked. I'll be obsessively listening to his catalog for a month or so, now.

Happy VI Day to everyone, and Go Blue!

1367 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:41:21am

re: #1357 doriangrey

May I ask exactly what you guys are making? It's got to be fun, well other than the hair pulling frustration part... ;)

Do a kitchen sink chip 8bit or 32bit MCU with on board analog and digital IOs. memory, USB or wireless all on one chip. We do keyboard and mouse controls with one chip, touchscreens on phones and the iPod the new Blackberry Storm.

1368 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:41:58am

re: #1365 doriangrey

Sweet...

Oh, and I'd love to know how those things know when they have been rotated...

1369 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:42:23am

re: #1364 Shug

It was spot on.

I'd love to interview his ex. OMG, that poor woman

For all we know, they're still married.

1370 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:42:31am

Still at 52% this is going to be a long day. Can't walk away or the computer would go into energy saver mode and I don't know in Safe Mode if that means only the screen goes dark or does it stop processing.

1371 LindaMarie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:42:40am

re: #1260 Shug

anybody see my link about Obama and his corned beef.

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the auto industry ?
A: I got the corned beef

Q: Mr President elect, what do you think about the incoming Russian ICBM's?
A: I got the corned beef


The guy reminds of of Rainman

This is a perfect example of why we need the raspberry icon
Boarderline offensive.

1372 Defogger  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:43:03am

re: #1349 Wishing

Well this guy is a nutcase. He says let's use what WORKS. Our own oil and nuke plants WORK. He is full of the hot air he hopes to harness.

This is what you get when you scare the public with the Global Warming hoax. I hope Al Gore will be happy when the entire economy is wrecked.

1373 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:43:28am

re: #1368 doriangrey

Oh, and I'd love to know how those things know when they have been rotated...

X and Y accelerometers, we are working on pulling those onto our chip also.

1374 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:43:36am

re: #1363 Last Mohican

And people didn't believe me when I said it's possible for a president to vote "present."

That's why I'm glad that Hillary is going to be SecState. I don't like her at all, but at least she can make a decision on a hard issue. It's often the wrong one, but at least she doesn't waffle often.

1375 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:43:40am

re: #1367 JCM

Do a kitchen sink chip 8bit or 32bit MCU with on board analog and digital IOs. memory, USB or wireless all on one chip. We do keyboard and mouse controls with one chip, touchscreens on phones and the iPod the new Blackberry Storm.

What software do you use for your circuit layout?

1376 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:43:44am

re: #1368 doriangrey

Oh, and I'd love to know how those things know when they have been rotated...

Don't they have a little mercury switch?

1377 nyc redneck  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:43:59am

re: #1268 lawhawk

Sooner or later, someone is going to have to answer those questions when he's in the White House. If no one does, it's going to be a very long and painful four years.

He can't feign failing to hear questions for years on issues as important as the auto bailout. I can understand why he wants to play coy on the auto bailout since he's not yet in office and the Bush Administration is trying to roll things up for Obama to hit the ground running, but he's got to have an opinion on that - and diverting attention by saying he got the corned beef is just so much hash.

at least he has broadened his menu beyond waffles.
he might want to add some fruit to his diet. i bet michelle can afford it now.

1378 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:44:28am

I just got back in from setting up for an event at the theatre, so maybe someone has already mentioned this, but...

Obama's job plans... can anyone say FDR?

1379 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:45:31am

re: #1375 doriangrey

What software do you use for your circuit layout?

Altium Designer.

1380 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:45:40am

re: #1378 Walter L. Newton

I just got back in from setting up for an event at the theatre, so maybe someone has already mentioned this, but...

Obama's job plans... can anyone say FDR?

No, but I was just sitting here thinking WPA/CCC.

1381 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:45:41am

Of course you will support the Saudi Peace plan Madame Secretary.

After all, we gave 10s of millions of dollars to your husband.

1382 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:45:56am

re: #1378 Walter L. Newton

It fits the template. Their whole platform is that we are in a Depression (BS) and they need a new FDR to fix it.

1383 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:46:01am

re: #1377 nyc redneck

at least he has broadened his menu beyond waffles.
he might want to add some fruit to his diet. i bet michelle can afford it now.

He already puts strawberries on his waffles. What more do you want? :)

1384 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:46:02am

re: #1205 doriangrey

wtf was that all about? who is "iceman"?

1385 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:46:25am

re: #1381 Ben Hur

Of course you will support the Saudi Peace plan Madame Secretary.

After all, we gave 10s of millions of dollars to your husband.

The 2002 one without the right of return?

1386 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:46:25am

re: #1371 LindaMarie

This is a perfect example of why we need the raspberry icon
Boarderline offensive.

I am offended that we have a president elect who can't answer a question. and Not borderline

1387 razorbacker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:46:27am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How cute. Affirmative action for squirrels.

There's a small town in TN, north of Memphis on 51 (I think). Newburg, Newton, some such. Annnyyyway. They're the home of 'The Fighting White Squirrels'.

Now really, just how tough is that football team going to be?

1388 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:46:35am

re: #1349 Wishing

Well this guy is a nutcase. He says let's use what WORKS. Our own oil and nuke plants WORK. He is full of the hot air he hopes to harness.


"What works" sounds like a riff off of Ross Perot's "Lift up the hood and see what needs fixin" It's another kick the can down the road, shut down all serious debate, just trust us were better than you are, shell game.

1389 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:47:50am

re: #1382 rawmuse

It fits the template. Their whole platform is that we are in a Depression (BS) and they need a new FDR to fix it.

They've made him the greatest president of all time, before he's even president.

To make the solution more miraculous, the problem must be the worst ever.

Even though Manhattan was hopping last night.

Restaurants were full.

People shopping.

Though that could just be in urban centers.

I just don't buy that it it's as bad as "they" would have us believe.

1390 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:48:25am

re: #1385 MandyManners

The 2002 one without the right of return?

Aiwa.

Give back everything and we'll stop demanding the one thing that would destroy you.

1391 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:49:15am

re: #1376 rawmuse

Don't they have a little mercury switch?

3 axis surface mount accelerometer 4 10ths of an inch long.

1392 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:49:59am

re: #1389 Ben Hur

yes, the Depression/recession is so bad that it took me 10 minutes to find a parking place at the mall.

1393 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:50:22am

re: #1382 rawmuse

It fits the template. Their whole platform is that we are in a Depression (BS) and they need a new FDR to fix it.

The "Narrative" has already been written.

All they have to do now is force fit Obama into that Narrative.

1394 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:50:42am

re: #1380 pre-Boomer Marine brat

No, but I was just sitting here thinking WPA/CCC.

I sure hope they will build an overpass in my town so we dont have to wait while the trains pass: long trains, VERY long trains. And they are hauling coal: black, polluting coal.

1395 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:50:57am

re: #1392 rawmuse

yes, the Depression/recession is so bad that it took me 10 minutes to find a parking place at the mall.

PEOPLE WERE DRIVING?!?!?!?

Were they trading crops for fuel?

1396 nyc redneck  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:51:14am

re: #1383 Dark_Falcon

He already puts strawberries on his waffles. What more do you want? :)

wow, so they were eating fruit the whole time michelle was commiserating w/ poor single mothers, insisting it was beyond her budget too?
(i don't think she fooled anyone)

1397 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:51:35am

re: #1391 JCM

3 axis surface mount accelerometer 4 10ths of an inch long.

I am such a geek I just posted a link to a DATASHEET!


ARRRGGGHHH!

1398 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:51:47am

re: #1391 JCM

3 axis surface mount accelerometer 4 10ths of an inch long.

These aren't Krylon type things I hope? Don't want to give the Iranians any extra help.

1399 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:52:11am

re: #1382 rawmuse

It fits the template. Their whole platform is that we are in a Depression (BS) and they need a new FDR to fix it.

Well, I was looking at a CNN article, and there's nothing in his plan that would put a 55 year old, with 30 years programming, back to work. Unless he passes a law demanding that you hire someone over 50.

1400 BBev  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:52:12am

re: #1394 Wishing

I sure hope they will build an overpass in my town so we dont have to wait while the trains pass: long trains, VERY long trains. And they are hauling coal: black, polluting coal.

Well after he bankrupts the coal industry you will not need a bridge.

1401 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:52:22am

re: #1394 Wishing

I sure hope they will build an overpass in my town so we dont have to wait while the trains pass: long trains, VERY long trains. And they are hauling coal: black, polluting coal.

No more coal trains, no wait, but they'll still build the overpass.

1402 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:52:24am

re: #1396 nyc redneck

wow, so they were eating fruit the whole time michelle was commiserating w/ poor single mothers, insisting it was beyond her budget too?
(i don't think she fooled anyone)

Michelle likes fruit.

Lobster is fruit, no?

1403 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:52:40am

re: #1390 Ben Hur

Aiwa.

Give back everything and we'll stop demanding the one thing that would destroy you.

Even without that it is a recipe for disaster.

1404 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:52:41am

re: #1391 JCM

That is fascinating. But, I am in way over my head here.

1405 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:53:13am

re: #1403 MandyManners

Even without that it is a recipe for disaster.

Agreed.

1406 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:53:15am

re: #1394 Wishing

I sure hope they will build an overpass in my town so we dont have to wait while the trains pass: long trains, VERY long trains. And they are hauling coal: black, polluting coal.

Not for long after CBBHO bankrupts coal.

1407 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:53:42am

re: #1388 lifeofthemind

"What works" sounds like a riff off of Ross Perot's "Lift up the hood and see what needs fixin" It's another kick the can down the road, shut down all serious debate, just trust us were better than you are, shell game.

The difference is that Ross Perot has run companies. When he counseled that kind of pragmatism, he was sometimes right. Obama uses pragmatic words as a cover for his grand and foolish dreams.

1408 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:53:54am

re: #1400 BBev

Well after he bankrupts the coal industry you will not need a bridge.

GMTA.

1409 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:54:01am

re: #1394 Wishing

black, polluting coal.

Racist!

1410 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:54:06am

re: #1398 lifeofthemind

These aren't Krylon type things I hope? Don't want to give the Iranians any extra help.

Nope, besides the precision switches are for a plutonium implosion bomb, the Iranians have enough uranium for a gun type bomb, no switches need, just fire one half the mass down the barrel at the other half in a target.

1411 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:54:20am

re: #1397 JCM

I am such a geek I just posted a link to a DATASHEET!


ARRRGGGHHH!

I dont understand a thing about it, but I do think that *you people* who make these wonderful gadgets ROCK!

1412 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:54:37am

"you people" = "maccaca"

1413 Defogger  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:54:45am

re: #1382 rawmuse

It fits the template. Their whole platform is that we are in a Depression (BS) and they need a new FDR to fix it.

And FDR made it worse. In fact, he took what was probably a mere recession and turned it into a depression.

1414 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:54:48am

re: #1394 Wishing

I sure hope they will build an overpass in my town so we dont have to wait while the trains pass: long trains, VERY long trains. And they are hauling coal: black, polluting coal.

Instead, they will get rid of the dirty polluting coal ... AND chalk up the money they've saved by NOT building the overpass as a tax cut.

/

1415 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:55:55am

re: #1397 JCM

I am such a geek I just posted a link to a DATASHEET!
ARRRGGGHHH!

*grin*

1416 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:55:58am

re: #1410 JCM

Traditional, 'Little Boy' 1940's device. Doesn't mean it won't kill a whole bunch of people - initial bomb, and a whole lotta retaliation.

1417 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:56:00am

re: #1407 Dark_Falcon

The difference is that Ross Perot has run companies. When he counseled that kind of pragmatism, he was sometimes right. Obama uses pragmatic words as a cover for his grand and foolish dreams.

Obama likes to pick up jargon that he can use to make himself look like he is part of some group that has credibility. Remember when he said "That's above my pay grade?"

1418 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:56:23am

re: #1402 Ben Hur

Michelle likes fruit.

Lobster is fruit, no?

No it has less taste and costs more. I don't much care for lobster. Give me a good steak instead.

1419 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:56:44am

re: #322 Slumbering Behemoth

That's some seriously nutty stuff.

1420 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:56:59am

re: #1407 Dark_Falcon

The difference is that Ross Perot has run companies. When he counseled that kind of pragmatism, he was sometimes right. Obama uses pragmatic words as a cover for his grand and foolish dreams.

Not only that - he managed to rescue employees that were held hostage in Iran. He may be a bit of a nutcase but he's a damn effective one.

1421 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:57:18am

re: #1414 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Instead, they will get rid of the dirty polluting coal ... AND chalk up the money they've saved by NOT building the overpass as a tax cut.

/

And I wont have to wait the 15 minutes for the train to pass. Of course, I doubt my horse would mind the wait, now that the highway has grown some sweet alfalfa.

1422 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:57:24am

re: #1399 Walter L. Newton

I think you and I have to be Small Business operators. We are out of warranty. Can you imagine showing up for a job interview and the interviewer is 20 years younger than us? Oh wait, I have already done that about 30 times. This year.

Yep, we are either going to get pushed out to the edge of the herd or have to make something out of thin air.

1423 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:57:32am

re: #1410 JCM

Nope, besides the precision switches are for a plutonium implosion bomb, the Iranians have enough uranium for a gun type bomb, no switches need, just fire one half the mass down the barrel at the other half in a target.

I know, saw that yesterday, we are now officially whistling as we hurtle towards the Apocalypse.

1424 Defogger  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:57:55am

re: #1401 JCM

No more coal trains, no wait, but they'll still build the overpass.

. . . like another famous bridge to nowhere . . .

1425 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:58:12am

um, what is this 'karma' count one sees when an avatar is clicked?

1426 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:58:13am

So, are we going to discuss the MSMs recent discovery of the origin of Thanksgiving turkey?

The NYTIMES is lamenting the "executions."

1427 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:58:40am

re: #1425 wahabicorridor

um, what is this 'karma' count one sees when an avatar is clicked?

The amount of $ you owe me.

1428 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:58:42am

re: #1376 rawmuse

Don't they have a little mercury switch?

piezoelectric sensing elements... When they are moved they create a electrical current, the more they are moved the more current they generate. Which element is generating current determines which axes...

1429 CIA Reject  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:58:48am

re: #1382 rawmuse

It fits the template. Their whole platform is that we are in a Depression (BS) and they need a new FDR to fix it.

What's even worse, in my mind anyway, is that once the current financial unpleasantness is over there will be a significant number of idiots people in the US who will believe that they actually lived through the "Second Great Depression". A slap in the face to the generation that lived through a REAL Great Depression.

1430 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:58:58am

re: #1426 Ben Hur

So, are we going to discuss the MSMs recent discovery of the origin of Thanksgiving turkey?

The NYTIMES is lamenting the "executions."

The Times never cared when Danny Pearl and Nick Berg had their heads chopped off

1431 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:59:09am

re: #1425 wahabicorridor

um, what is this 'karma' count one sees when an avatar is clicked?

Total ding count.

1432 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:59:24am

re: #1425 wahabicorridor

um, what is this 'karma' count one sees when an avatar is clicked?

the lizard's up-dings, minus down-dings.

1433 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:59:28am

re: #1401 JCM

No more coal trains, no wait, but they'll still build the overpass.

I use to design printed circuit boards and layout the artwork for the board. We used an Autotrol table, digitized the hand drawn layouts to coordinates on IBM punchcards, run the punchcards through a program on an HP mainframe, produce a 9 inch tape and the tape was thrown on a Gerber photo plotter to draw the photo masters.

Our software on the HP mainframe was homegrown. It could do a "bump" around pads and a "sausage" between pads.

We designed the first motherboard for the IBM PC-1.

1434 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:59:43am

re: #1425 wahabicorridor

um, what is this 'karma' count one sees when an avatar is clicked?

Total lifetime Updings minus Downdings for comments, not links.

1435 [deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:00:18am
1436 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:00:24am

re: #1427 Ben Hur

The amount of $ you owe me.

*SMACK*

1437 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:00:27am

re: #1417 lifeofthemind

Obama likes to pick up jargon that he can use to make himself look like he is part of some group that has credibility. Remember when he said "That's above my pay grade?"

Yeah, I remember.

1438 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:00:30am

re: #1430 Shug

The Times never cared when Danny Pearl and Nick Berg had their heads chopped off

Maybe Brad Pitt will get a tatoo of a turkey now.

1439 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:00:38am

re: #1422 rawmuse

I think you and I have to be Small Business operators. We are out of warranty. Can you imagine showing up for a job interview and the interviewer is 20 years younger than us? Oh wait, I have already done that about 30 times. This year.

Yep, we are either going to get pushed out to the edge of the herd or have to make something out of thin air.

From my blog...

Are you over 50 and looking for employment? If you are, you may have noticed that there are a lot of jobs available in your field, but they don’t want you. My favorite response from the interviewer is “You are very qualified, but you don’t fit our corporate culture.” What in the world does that mean? The only “corporate culture” I’m interest in is… “Hi… I’m the boss… here’s what I want you to do… thank you for doing it... here’s your paycheck… now go home.”

Let me translate this for you. What they are saying is… “You’re to old.” Federal law does not allow an employer to discriminate because of your age but it does happen… all the time. I am presently looking for work as a computer programmer. I have been working in Information Technology since the days that we had those little beads on those wire thingy’s. The consulting firms that I have been dealing with have confirmed my suspicions. Fitting the corporate culture means that you’re under 30, will work for half the pay, you can spend at least 55 or more hours a week at your workstation and you promise not to die in your cube.

So… if you are having the same problem as I am, I offer some advice to you. The next time you have a face-to-face interview with a prospective employer… try this.

1) Light up a joint.
2) Hum a song by “Artic Monkeys” and bang your head on the interviewers desk.
3) Wear a backpack.
4) Make sure there is a snowboard or skateboard in your backpack.
5) Don’t wear your MP3 player on your wrist.
6) Use the phrase ‘Vodka and Red Bull” at least 3 times.
7) If outside activities come up, don’t use the words “recreation center,” it’s a gym.
8) If the interviewer offers you a latte, don’t look puzzled, that’s coffee.
9) Don’t ask if their health plan covers limb replacement.
10) Never tell the interviewer that his/her mother dresses him/her nicely.

Will this help? Probably not… but it will make you feel better.

1440 Ben Hur  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:00:51am

re: #1436 wahabicorridor

*SMACK*

Oooo..now I owe you $!

1441 Spider Mensch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:01:14am

re: #1426 Ben Hur

So, are we going to discuss the MSMs recent discovery of the origin of Thanksgiving turkey?

The NYTIMES is lamenting the "executions."


hmmm..executed turkey with dressing...drooolll...

/Homer

1442 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:01:19am

re: #1397 JCM

I am such a geek I just posted a link to a DATASHEET!


ARRRGGGHHH!

ROTFLMAO... And here I was thinking you could use the mask layout for this...

1443 JCM  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:01:32am

re: #1433 Walter L. Newton

I use to design printed circuit boards and layout the artwork for the board. We used an Autotrol table, digitized the hand drawn layouts to coordinates on IBM punchcards, run the punchcards through a program on an HP mainframe, produce a 9 inch tape and the tape was thrown on a Gerber photo plotter to draw the photo masters.

Our software on the HP mainframe was homegrown. It could do a "bump" around pads and a "sausage" between pads.

We designed the first motherboard for the IBM PC-1.

Damn, I am impressed. My software links schematics to PCB, has error checking etc... Will even auto route, but for want I do the auto route sucks.

1444 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:01:37am

re: #1434 lifeofthemind

Total lifetime Updings minus Downdings for comments, not links.

Oh. Thank you. Never realized I ever got dinged one way or the other.

1445 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:03:14am

re: #1427 Ben Hur

The amount of $ you owe me.

Ben Hur ... 5517
pre-Boomer Marine brat ... 2885

you owe me $2632

1446 apb1  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:03:22am

Have a good day, everyone. Time to complete leaf-shredding duty...

1447 pat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:03:25am

re: #1423 lifeofthemind

Not to worry. Iran is a small country and will only have a small nuclear arsenal. Obamalogic

1448 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:03:30am

re: #1433 Walter L. Newton


We designed the first motherboard for the IBM PC-1.

The Mother of all Motherboards?

1449 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:04:27am

Good Morning Lizards!

This is a drive by post, I have a very busy day ahead of me. This brought a smile to my face so I wanted to share it:

Carter Group Barred From Zimbabwe

It's time to go back to the peanut farm and leave the rest of the world alone.

/goober

1450 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:05:39am

re: #1426 Ben Hur

So, are we going to discuss the MSMs recent discovery of the origin of Thanksgiving turkey?

The NYTIMES is lamenting the "executions."

Cook the turkeys and eat them, what else?

1451 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:06:03am

re: #1439 Walter L. Newton

I've been watching that for probably 8 years now. I got out of the corporate world 5 years ago (I was 51) - for other reasons - but they were definitely pushing out the people 50 and older. I still keep in touch with some of my old team - all they talk about are the 'stupid' developers in India with degrees in math that can't grab their asses with both hands - 'big house, no furniture'.

1452 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:06:31am

re: #1449 twincitiesgirl

Good Morning Lizards!

This is a drive by post, I have a very busy day ahead of me. This brought a smile to my face so I wanted to share it:

Carter Group Barred From Zimbabwe

It's time to go back to the peanut farm and leave the rest of the world alone.

/goober

Charles already has it posted as the next thread. I'm heading over there now.

1453 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:08:30am

re: #1443 JCM

Damn, I am impressed. My software links schematics to PCB, has error checking etc... Will even auto route, but for want I do the auto route sucks.

The company's name was Compuroute. We pioneered semi-automated circuit board design, before you had onscreen routing systems.

We digitized the pad locations first. And then the traces. Each pad (depending on size) had it's own dataset. Each trace (depending on size) was grouped into datasets.

All this went on to punchcards.

Run these cards into the mainframe program. Pads first. Software would build a "map" of pad locations. So, as the software was building the Gerber control code, it would know when a trace was running near a pad. Too close, bump it up and around, the trace is running between to pads, decrease (sausage) the width of the trace for a 50 thousandths of an inch and then continue with the defined size.

We could get more traces per inch than anyone in the business at the time. This was 1977.

1454 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:09:19am

re: #1452 Dark_Falcon

gmta

1455 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:11:12am

re: #1451 wahabicorridor

I've been watching that for probably 8 years now. I got out of the corporate world 5 years ago (I was 51) - for other reasons - but they were definitely pushing out the people 50 and older. I still keep in touch with some of my old team - all they talk about are the 'stupid' developers in India with degrees in math that can't grab their asses with both hands - 'big house, no furniture'.

Yea, but I wasn't prepared, in the sense I thought I would be a grunt programmer all my life. I didn't pay attention to the politics of jobs and what was going on in that sense.

Wasn't prepared at all. I do a little contract stuff from home that helps put a few more dollars in the bank some months, but I've gone down from 80k to 18k, now working full time at the live theatre.

1456 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:12:07am

re: #1453 Walter L. Newton

The company's name was Compuroute. We pioneered semi-automated circuit board design, before you had onscreen routing systems.

We digitized the pad locations first. And then the traces. Each pad (depending on size) had it's own dataset. Each trace (depending on size) was grouped into datasets.

All this went on to punchcards.

Run these cards into the mainframe program. Pads first. Software would build a "map" of pad locations. So, as the software was building the Gerber control code, it would know when a trace was running near a pad. Too close, bump it up and around, the trace is running between to pads, decrease (sausage) the width of the trace for a 50 thousandths of an inch and then continue with the defined size.

We could get more traces per inch than anyone in the business at the time. This was 1977.

Wow... That is pure +10 cool Walter...

1457 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:14:46am

re: #1455 Walter L. Newton

It sucks doesn't it? I went from $110k to $40k - but most of our income comes from hubby so we're ok - either way I had to get out - either I was going to spend all that money on lawyers or be fired for not doing what they wanted me to do. Quite a few of the execs DID spend all their money on lawyers and some are actually in prison

/no amount of money...

1458 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:16:35am

re: #1456 doriangrey

Wow... That is pure +10 cool Walter...

It's what got me started on programming. After IBM released the first PC, we got a bunch of prototypes for free. A few years later dbase II, and I was learning how to program. Stayed with xbase platforms until 1993 and then moved to Oracle.

Still do a little Visual Foxpro (step son of dbase, xbase) consulting when I can get it.

1459 eon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:17:11am

re: #1416 apb1

Traditional, 'Little Boy' 1940's device. Doesn't mean it won't kill a whole bunch of people - initial bomb, and a whole lotta retaliation.

Agreed. People labor under the misapprehension that a nuclear "device" has to be a complicated, finely-tuned instrument. The one Tom Clancy described in The Sum Of All Fears was only complex because its builders wanted, not a fission bomb, but a fusion (thermonuclear) or H-bomb. Which, in the end, did not detonate correctly. The basic device they built as a trigger still delivered a blast equal to (IIRTBC) about 3,000 tons of TNT.

The fact is that fancy equipment like kryton switches, etc., even though they are surprisingly easy to obtain on the international market (or can be made by the would-be bomb-makers themselves with a technology base capable of making digital watches- and how many places are those made today?) simply aren't necessary, if all you want is a simple fission explosion. The Hiroshima bomb was a mule-stupid, slug-simple device that compared to the Nagasaki bomb the way a 1924 Ford Model T does to a 1980 Lamborghini Countach S, but it worked.

In his 1975 novel Operation Nuke, Martin Caidin described a "home-made" fission bomb concocted by some USAF officers as an experiment. A simple "gun"- type device, much like "Little Boy", built inside a piece of (IKYN) water pipe. Caidin was in fact describing one devised as a design study at the USAF Academy in 1972. The experts concluded that the cadets' "improvised" weapon would have had about a 12KT yield, in the same range as the Hiroshima bomb. The point of the study was to answer the question, "Can a simple but workable nuclear weapon be built with 'off-the-shelf' technology, if the builders have access to the necessary fissionable materials?" The answer was, "Yes". (And this was thirty-six years ago.)

Also consider this fact- as far as we know, everyone who has tried to set off a fission bomb since 1945 has achieved at least a partial success. And with that kind of munition, even a "low-order" event is going to cause a lot of destruction wherever it goes off.

This is another thing that I tend to think our incoming leadership does not understand. And in the future, it could cost a lot of people a lot of misery. On all sides.

cheers

eon

1460 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:19:28am

re: #1457 wahabicorridor

It sucks doesn't it? I went from $110k to $40k - but most of our income comes from hubby so we're ok - either way I had to get out - either I was going to spend all that money on lawyers or be fired for not doing what they wanted me to do. Quite a few of the execs DID spend all their money on lawyers and some are actually in prison

/no amount of money...

Well, I'm ok money wise, I pay the bills, feed myself. But live theatre is not the most stable job in the world, and with people starting to sit on their money and not spend it for a lot of entertainment, my current job may be in trouble down the road.

I still keep an eye out for part time programming I can do from home, and if a full time job came up, I would take it, but after 800 resumes in the last 4-5 years, I don't look forward to that anytime soon.

1461 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:19:43am

re: #1458 Walter L. Newton

It's what got me started on programming. After IBM released the first PC, we got a bunch of prototypes for free. A few years later dbase II, and I was learning how to program. Stayed with xbase platforms until 1993 and then moved to Oracle.

Still do a little Visual Foxpro (step son of dbase, xbase) consulting when I can get it.

I tried programming many years ago, couldn't handle the sitting in front of the computer for hours and hours going over line after line of code, so I quit.

1462 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:20:36am

re: #1460 Walter L. Newton

Have you considered jobs as a tech writer?

1463 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:22:18am

re: #1462 wahabicorridor

Have you considered jobs as a tech writer?

Or vocational instructor?

1464 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:25:41am

re: #1462 wahabicorridor

Have you considered jobs as a tech writer?

I am trained in everything from analyst to programmer to documentation to training to project leader and so on. When it comes to programming and the related areas around it, I've done it over and over. When it comes to hardware, I done my fair share of building boxes and throwing cables.

And I have a A-1 job record. My last job was 13 years with the Department of Energy, National Renewable Energy Lab. The only reason I got laid off was because Bush cut our budget in 2002-2003.

All the recruiters tell me the same thing, off record of course, it's my age. Period, end of story.

1465 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:29:06am

re: #1464 Walter L. Newton

I am trained in everything from analyst to programmer to documentation to training to project leader and so on. When it comes to programming and the related areas around it, I've done it over and over. When it comes to hardware, I done my fair share of building boxes and throwing cables.

And I have a A-1 job record. My last job was 13 years with the Department of Energy, National Renewable Energy Lab. The only reason I got laid off was because Bush cut our budget in 2002-2003.

All the recruiters tell me the same thing, off record of course, it's my age. Period, end of story.

Ummm, so pull a Steve Jobs and design and build some useless but utterly cook gadget...

1466 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:31:23am

re: #1465 doriangrey

Ummm, so pull a Steve Jobs and design and build some useless but utterly cook gadget...

I know. I haven't given up. I still send out resumes now and again and keep an eye on the local job boards. Now a lot has to do with the slow down as much as anything. I just picked a bad decade to age into my 50's.

1467 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:38:50am

re: #1466 Walter L. Newton

I know. I haven't given up. I still send out resumes now and again and keep an eye on the local job boards. Now a lot has to do with the slow down as much as anything. I just picked a bad decade to age into my 50's.

That's kind of scary for me, considering I turn 48 in Feb. Fortunately for me although I am in a supervisory position I work in a pretty small shop and still do a lot of physical labor, and still am faster and better then the 20 something kid's that work for me.

1468 Jimmah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:44:38am

re: #1338 Sharmuta

Yes- and what a mighty blow he struck against jihad last night with his rantings.

Heh. Careful now Sharm. If we get all rational on his ass at the same time - that's 'bullying'.
/

I'm off out for the night - see y'all later.

1469 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:26:05am

test

1470 EmeraldLakeEyes  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:15:38am

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