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Bloggers Celebrating Victory in Iraq Day

World | Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:34:42 am PST

It’s not an official day, but a number of bloggers are celebrating Victory in Iraq Day, November 22, 2008. We’re glad to join them, and to say thank you to the men and women of the US military and our coalition partners—and the courageous Iraqis who’ve worked so hard to establish the beginnings of a democracy in the Middle East.

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1 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:35:18am

God Bless our Troops!

2 doriangrey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:35:30am

Thank you Charles....

3 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:35:50am

USA Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!

4 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:36:02am

but ,, But ,,, BUT ,, Harry Reid said we lost! Harry would know! Harry would never EVER lie to us !

5 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:36:06am

Thank you Zombie

6 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:37:08am

Thanks to our servicemembers! And, to the thousands of Iraqis who are trying to take the reins of service to their nation!

7 jcm  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:37:17am

Thank you, to all those who served in the liberation of 25 million people and ensuring the security of me, my family and my country.

8 least  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:37:19am

Saludos to all of 'em.
Def'ny!

9 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:37:36am

Here's to the US ARMY-NAVY-AIR FORCE-MARINES-COAST GUARD! You are the best the world has ever seen! Thank you all for your service and to a job well done! Your sacrifices and efforts are appreciated by millions of us!

10 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:37:42am

Iraqis are really trying to get the whole democracy off the ground. I think they are having a general election to extend US stay in the country another three years? Please correct me if I am wrong.

11 jaunte  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:37:49am

Thanks to all serving, and all who served. We wouldn't be here without you.

12 itellu3times  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:37:55am

Thanks to all who have served, and most especially General Petreus.

13 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:38:32am

General Petreus: the Man with the Plan!

14 debutaunt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:38:58am

That is a beautiful graphic up top.

15 Shug  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:39:44am

George Bush : Mission accomplished
Harry Reid : Submission accomplished

God Bless President Bush

16 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:39:44am

No thanks the Obama.

17 itellu3times  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:40:04am

re: #10 Wishing

Iraqis are really trying to get the whole democracy off the ground. I think they are having a general election to extend US stay in the country another three years? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Hadn't heard that.

Perhaps they'd wish to become our 58th state under B. Hussein. After all, lot of nostalgia there, for the Hussein family.

18 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:40:11am

re: #14 debutaunt

That is a beautiful graphic up top.

Did Zombie do that as well? Sheesh, what CAN'T Zombie do!

19 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:40:20am

Charles, I just added a "virtual ticker-tape parade" animated gif at the top of the post, with a new statement about VI Day (in case you haven't seen it -- I just added it a few minutes ago).

Thank you! And above all:

THANKS TO OUR SERVICE MEMBERS WHO WON THIS WAR IN THE FACE OF TERRIBLE ODDS FROM TRAITORS AT HOME AND TERRORISTS ABROAD.

20 Spiny Norman  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:00am

re: #16 Killgore Trout

No thanks the Obama.

Oh, he'll take credit for it, though.

Or, most likely, the Media will give him credit for it and he won't argue...

21 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:00am

Thank you, Charles!

THANK YOU, ZOMBIE!

22 Cognito  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:07am

I join in giving thanks to our military and for those courageous Iraqis. I'm not sure I'll celebrate fully, though, until we have a chance to see Iraq stand on its own without us propping it up; I'm concerned that when our steadying hand withdraws, the various sects and factions will collapse in on themselves.

But hey. It's a baby democracy. That's an unambiguously good thing.

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:31am

re: #15 Shug

George Bush : Mission accomplished
Harry Reid : Sedition accomplished

God Bless President Bush

And the men and women of our armed forces and those who supply them.

24 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:34am

Thank you to our troops, Charles and Zombie!

25 jcbunga  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:46am

God Bless the Troops.

All volunteers. True Patriots.

The best there ever was.

26 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:56am

re: #19 zombie

*salute*

27 Spiny Norman  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:41:56am

re: #19 zombie

Charles, I just added a "virtual ticker-tape parade" animated gif at the top of the post, with a new statement about VI Day (in case you haven't seen it -- I just added it a few minutes ago).

Thank you! And above all:

THANKS TO OUR SERVICE MEMBERS WHO WON THIS WAR IN THE FACE OF TERRIBLE ODDS FROM TRAITORS AT HOME AND TERRORISTS ABROAD.

Bravo!

28 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:42:58am

re: #18 Wishing

Did Zombie do that as well? Sheesh, what CAN'T Zombie do!

Yup, I labored for hours on that animated ticker-tape parade, and on the new "silhouette" VI Day button.

Sorry, I can't hang aorund to comment much here -- I have to scan the Web for outstanding posts to add to my list of VI Day essays for people to read. So far I have

Gateway Pundit

and

Confederate Yankee

Any others you recommend?

29 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:43:05am

re: #19 zombie

Charles, I just added a "virtual ticker-tape parade" animated gif at the top of the post, with a new statement about VI Day (in case you haven't seen it -- I just added it a few minutes ago).

Thank you! And above all:

THANKS TO OUR SERVICE MEMBERS WHO WON THIS WAR IN THE FACE OF TERRIBLE ODDS FROM TRAITORS AT HOME AND TERRORISTS ABROAD.

Thank you zombie!

30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:43:10am

re: #19 zombie

Perfect for LGF too!

"Throbbing confetti!"

31 jaunte  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:43:38am

Recommended: House to House by SSG David Bellavia;
for those who haven't read much about the hard parts of the war:
[Link: davidbellavia.com...]

32 Thanos  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:44:06am

Thanks to our military, the Iraqi troops who stepped up, the congress critters who backed the surge, thanks to General Petraeus, thanks to too many people to count. Persistence pays, even when the world expects instant silver bullets.

33 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:44:23am

re: #10 Wishing

But, I thought Democracy could never work there? That the tribal and sectarian differences could never be mended and it was a lost cause and naive to even try.

We should have just kept Saddam in power, it wasn't "that bad" over there, was it?

Seriously, the Iraqi people now have a chance to make it work on their own, without some strong man or megalomaniac coming in to fu*k it all up. That chance was brought to you by the US Military.

Some of your countrymen doubted you and thought you could not succeed. I am not one of those people. I have great faith in the abilities of the greatest military the world has ever seen. THANK YOU, again!

34 Spiny Norman  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:44:36am

re: #22 Cognito

I join in giving thanks to our military and for those courageous Iraqis. I'm not sure I'll celebrate fully, though, until we have a chance to see Iraq stand on its own without us propping it up; I'm concerned that when our steadying hand withdraws, the various sects and factions will collapse in on themselves.

But hey. It's a baby democracy. That's an unambiguously good thing.

That's why Barry is already hedging on his withdrawal promises...

35 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:44:57am

Ok I stand (sit) corrected:

The Iraqi parliament will be voting on the 3 year extension of American troops in Iraq sometime next week. LINK

36 MilkOfMalfeasance  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:45:21am

Here's to the greatest military in human history!

37 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:45:23am

God Bless our brave men and women who fight for freedom everywhere. Thank you.

38 least  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:45:29am

Prob'ly don't have to bother with looking @ Google, huh?

39 MarineGrunt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:45:49am

A BIG Semper Fi to all our Troops.

40 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:46:03am

re: #19 zombie

What happened to VI Day's previous comment thread?
AUUGGGHHH!
CENSORSHIP!
*SHRIEK*
/... (-: ... do I really need a sarc?

41 Charles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:46:21am

I think people are finally getting the hang of using the 'report' button. (The exclamation point.)

I had more than 70 comment reports waiting in the Inbox this morning...

42 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:46:44am

re: #35 Wishing

Ok I stand (sit) corrected:

The Iraqi parliament will be voting on the 3 year extension of American troops in Iraq sometime next week. LINK

Let's hope CBBHO listens to Gen. Jassim.

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:47:01am

re: #41 Charles

All reporting something nice?

44 gregg  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:47:23am

I suspect that sometime over the past couple of days someone has posted this tribute to American Soldiers from a French soldier in Afghanistan, but I think it's worth posting again today.

45 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:47:29am

re: #33 Desert Dog

But, I thought Democracy could never work there? That the tribal and sectarian differences could never be mended and it was a lost cause and naive to even try.

We should have just kept Saddam in power, it wasn't "that bad" over there, was it?

Seriously, the Iraqi people now have a chance to make it work on their own, without some strong man or megalomaniac coming in to fu*k it all up. That chance was brought to you by the US Military.

Some of your countrymen doubted you and thought you could not succeed. I am not one of those people. I have great faith in the abilities of the greatest military the world has ever seen. THANK YOU, again!

I will amen that!

46 Thanos  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:48:13am

re: #28 zombie

Mine's up in spinoffs

47 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:48:23am

Hats off to all the men and women of our armed forces. And to the families of those who have fallen. Thank you. Frustrating job well done.

48 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:49:26am

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

All reporting something nice?

OR,,,, complaints that he let Cog back in !


(sorry COG ,, that was cheap and gratuitous ,,, but funny ! !)

49 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:49:51am

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A sockpuppet from one of the stalker blogs.

50 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:49:54am

re: #41 Charles

I think people are finally getting the hang of using the 'report' button. (The exclamation point.)

I had more than 70 comment reports waiting in the Inbox this morning...

Massive motivation!

51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:50:42am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

I wouldn't know a sock puppet if it bit me on the ... uh ... toe?

52 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:51:06am

re: #41 Charles

I think people are finally getting the hang of using the 'report' button. (The exclamation point.)

I had more than 70 comment reports waiting in the Inbox this morning...

I've gotten the confidence to begin "down-ding-negative" reporting. When I was newer here, I was hesitant.

Suggestions for what to report, or not? Or just use experience and common sense?

53 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:51:21am

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They put up a thread about it.

54 docjohn52  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:52:07am

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!

55 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:52:29am

re: #53 Killgore Trout
Who "they"?

56 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:53:07am

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wouldn't know a sock puppet if it bit me on the ... uh ... toe?

FYI ... for fun, see my "pre-Boomer's SockPuppy" near the end of the last thread. I use him to ankle-bite on goddess.

57 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:54:09am

re: #55 realwest

Robert Spencer's genocidal ex-lizard pals at the stalker blog.

58 jcbunga  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:54:58am

re: #44 gregg

I suspect that sometime over the past couple of days someone has posted this tribute to American Soldiers from a French soldier in Afghanistan, but I think it's worth posting again today.

Thank you for the post. Wonderful.

59 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:56:13am

God Bless them all!

60 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:56:35am

re: #41 Charles

I think people are finally getting the hang of using the 'report' button. (The exclamation point.)

I had more than 70 comment reports waiting in the Inbox this morning...

That's what that button does...
=)

61 jetprop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:56:49am

A heartfelt thank-you to our military men & women.

God bless you all.

62 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:56:49am

And I just want to add my voice of thanks to the American Troops (and Coalition Troops) who helped make victory in Iraq a possibility.
And to all those members of Congress who have supported our efforts there.
And to the Iraqi people for their laboring for their own nation against some of the worst barbarians in history.
I'll NEVER FORGET those Purple Fingers!
And a special thanks to President George W. Bush for staying the course, regardless of the "popularity" or lack thereof with the political opportunists safely ensconced in their comfy offices here at home.

63 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:57:31am

re: #52 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Or just use experience and common sense?


That would be the Lizard Army way.

64 Charles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:57:38am

re: #53 Killgore Trout

They put up a thread about it.

It's one of the stupidest possible human activities; sneak in at a site where you're banned and post a bunch of obnoxious crap, then crow about your exploits. It's mind-numbingly moronic. It decreases your IQ just to imagine that kind of mindset at work.

All I have to do is click one button and every comment they posted gets deleted, in about 0.0365 seconds.

65 Cathypop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:58:24am

To all the men and women fighting in Iraq thank you so much.
To all the families who have lost loved ones my heart goes out to you.
GOD I LOVE AMERICA!

66 treefish  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:58:35am

May God bless every soldier and civilian that put their lives on the line to free Iraq and stop terrorism on the front line. The liberal non-loyal opposition has done everything they could to prevent success, but it didn't work. Again, God bless you and a job well done. Come home soon and hold your heads high.

P.S. Remember, Al Gore said in 1992 we should have taken Saddam out in the first Gulf war "because of his ties to terrorism." Somebody, conveniently forgot about that.

67 Opinionated  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:58:40am

Obama has the likelihood of changing -don't you love that word- any possible success to catastrophe.

So just maybe any such celebration is premature. But honoring the troops who can accomplish anything asked on them, is proper on any day.

68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:58:50am

re: #53 Killgore Trout

Whur?

69 n in wi  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:58:57am

And, Thanks to Obama for opposing the war even though he wasn't privy to the intel. And thanks to Obama for opposing the surge. And thanks to Obama for voting to cut of funding.And thanks to Obama for being willing to go back to a pre 9-1-1 mindset in regards to Gitmo,intel gathering,and treating radical Islam with the American justice system,as opposed to a military action.
I thank him because Victory in Iraq may be declared, but victory over Islamic radicals is going to be a long,generational struggle.
Those that chose to not view 9-1-1 as a wake-up call,have chose to hit the snooze alarm,and it will go off again.
Then, I HOPE we will CHANGE, and see whom it is that is prepared to fight the good fight with winning being the only option.
I tank Obama so we can have the contrast of politically correct appeasement,and stoic determination to achieve victory.Even if your approval rating drops below 30%.

70 wahabicorridor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:59:02am

And please let's not forget the families they left behind - the spouses, the kids, the mothers and fathers. Our thanks - and our prayers - for them too.

71 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:59:18am

re: #44 gregg

I suspect that sometime over the past couple of days someone has posted this tribute to American Soldiers from a French soldier in Afghanistan, but I think it's worth posting again today.

Thank you for that post!

72 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:59:25am

Maybe one day when I grow up I can have my own mini-me stalker site.

73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:59:38am

re: #64 Charles

I thought it was 0.0364 seconds.

74 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 10:59:41am
75 pat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:00:07am

re: #64 Charles

Do we know the old nic of this poster?

76 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:00:54am

re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought it was 0.0364 seconds.

You need a new watch!

77 Thanos  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:00:58am

re: #75 pat

Rodin(t)?

78 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:01:24am

re: #75 pat

Do we know the old nic of this poster?

Of course he does. he's ,,,well,,,, Charles !

79 pat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:01:34am

re: #77 Thanos

OK. thanx

80 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:01:55am

re: #41 Charles

I think people are finally getting the hang of using the 'report' button. (The exclamation point.)

I had more than 70 comment reports waiting in the Inbox this morning...

'twas needed in the overnight thread, that's fer sure. ;)

81 Charles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:01:56am

re: #75 pat

Do we know the old nic of this poster?

He's had at least four accounts:

Hateful Hater
Rodan
The Joker
Conquistador

82 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:02:03am

re: #76 sattv4u2

You need a new watch!

In new regime the watch watches you.

83 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:02:44am

re: #75 pat

Do we know the old nic of this poster?


We not only know his nic but the idiot registered the site with his real name and address. A quick whois search brings up all of his personal information.

84 pat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:03:16am

re: #81 Charles

Thanx. FYI he is banned from a few other blogs also.

85 carti3r  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:03:27am

I am filled with so many emotions when I read things like this. It's helps knowing that the hard work and man hours are truly appreciated.

God bless our troops for sacrificing their time, energy, rights, and even lives to protect this great country of ours.

I will be in Afghanistan soon enough, and hopefully I too can make a difference. Not only for the US, but for the number of Afghans who support us in the quest for human rights and modernization.

86 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:03:31am

re: #83 Killgore Trout

We not only know his nic but the idiot registered the site with his real name and address. A quick whois search brings up all of his personal information.

Are you telling us your real name is not Killgore Trout? Really? I am disappointed

87 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:03:33am

re: #41 Charles

I think people are finally getting the hang of using the 'report' button. (The exclamation point.)

I had more than 70 comment reports waiting in the Inbox this morning...

Not that it matters to me but is the report button an anonymous report, or does it also give the nick of the reporter?

88 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:04:21am

re: #85 carti3r

Thank you for your service.

89 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:05:14am

re: #85 carti3r

I am filled with so many emotions when I read things like this. It's helps knowing that the hard work and man hours are truly appreciated.

God bless our troops for sacrificing their time, energy, rights, and even lives to protect this great country of ours.

I will be in Afghanistan soon enough, and hopefully I too can make a difference. Not only for the US, but for the number of Afghans who support us in the quest for human rights and modernization.

Thank you for serving!

90 Crusty  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:05:50am

re: #69 n in wi


...
I thank him because Victory in Iraq may be declared, but victory over Islamic radicals is going to be a long,generational struggle.
Those that chose to not view 9-1-1 as a wake-up call,have chose to hit the snooze alarm,and it will go off again.
...

The people of Iraq have traded one anti-Israel, terrorist associating, election fixing Hussein for another.

91 Charles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:05:58am

re: #83 Killgore Trout

We not only know his nic but the idiot registered the site with his real name and address. A quick whois search brings up all of his personal information.

He changed all the info on his registration. It may be fake.

92 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:06:07am

re: #84 pat

Thanx. FYI he is banned from a few other blogs also.

Why oh why does that not surprise me? ;)

93 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:06:24am

re: #83 Killgore Trout

We not only know his nic but the idiot registered the site with his real name and address. A quick whois search brings up all of his personal information.

GREAT ,,,,Give me his VISA charge account number, my son wants an X Box 360 for Christmas.

94 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:06:34am

re: #90 Crusty

The people of Iraq have traded one anti-Israel, terrorist associating, election fixing Hussein for another.

Ouch! That is funny

95 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:06:42am

well done troops!

and thanks to the right of center blogosphere for speaking the truth and doing right by the troops

96 Charles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:06:47am

re: #87 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not that it matters to me but is the report button an anonymous report, or does it also give the nick of the reporter?

The email I get identifies both the reporter and the reportee.

97 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:06:55am

re: #81 Charles

He's had at least four accounts:

Hateful Hater
Rodan
The Joker
Conquistador

Why is it that people with multiple personalities have no personality at all?

For the record, and at some risk, I agree with them on one or two issues but I can't imagine letting it get to a flame war. If I don't like a thread I ignore it, if I get tired of your site I'll go away, if I disagree with you I'll talk to a friend about it but until you do something worthy of being publicly challenged about why start a war? Particularly why does anyone start a war when they can't win?

98 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:07:40am

re: #91 Charles

Ah, I thanks for the update.

99 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:07:41am

re: #87 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not that it matters to me but is the report button an anonymous report, or does it also give the nick of the reporter?

My 2 cents -- I hope it's NOT anonymous. (1) A report could be used as a weapon out of spite, and (2) I expect to be judged by how I behave.

100 captkirk35  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:07:47am

A beautiful day for freedom, liberty, truth, justice, decency, courage, perseverance.. thank God for President Bush and his steadfastness.

A day to celebrate. Spread the word.

101 gman  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:08:02am

This victory didn't come from a sit- down conference, but from boots on the ground and the perseverance of the Iraqi people.

Thank you men and women of our armed forces and the people of Iraq!

102 jetprop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:08:18am
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."


~JFK

103 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:08:58am

Nice job Zombie. Thanks to our troops and freedom loving Iraqis.

No thanks to the democrat party led by Harry "this war is lost" Reid and Barack Husein Obama.

104 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:08:59am

re: #28 zombie

zombie -

A suggestion - HOT AIR - think Michelle might like it.

-S-

105 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:05am

re: #96 Charles

The email I get identifies both the reporter and the reportee.

Cool! Nice to know you can determine if the report is legit or just some clique crap gone overboard.

I own my reports. ;)

106 Athos  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:27am

One would think that they would learn to stop being so obsessed with LGF. Sheesh, the come in, defecate all over the place, get banned for doing so, and they think that they have the right to repeat the process ad nauseum?

They're nothing but narcissists & sociopaths whose hubris is only matched by their moral and intellectual bankruptcy.

107 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:44am

re: #102 jetprop

~JFK

"I have the corned beef"

~BHO

108 ciaospirit  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:54am

Posted at my website. And I made it my screensaver. We're proud of our Troops! Never faltered, never surrendered, never abandoned freedom's fight. You have won the war. We know it. You know it. And to hell with the traitors! We join you in celebrating a job well done.

109 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:55am

re: #101 gman

This victory didn't come from a sit- down conference, but from boots on the ground and the perseverance of the Iraqi people.

Thank you men and women of our armed forces and the people of Iraq!

And, it most certainly did not come about by discussions at the Turtle Bay Debate Society!

110 Last Mohican  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:56am

re: #99 pre-Boomer Marine brat

My 2 cents -- I hope it's NOT anonymous. (1) A report could be used as a weapon out of spite, and (2) I expect to be judged by how I behave.

I agree.

Although it's also worth noting that the exclamation point doesn't appear to actually do anything to the reportee, other than sending a report to Charles. This is unlike the situation on Youtube, for example, where you can have any video flagged as "adult content," and therefore made more difficult to see, without the intervention of a moderator, and without any legitimate reason at all.

111 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:10am

re: #99 pre-Boomer Marine brat

My 2 cents -- I hope it's NOT anonymous. (1) A report could be used as a weapon out of spite, and (2) I expect to be judged by how I behave.

Perverted minds think alike, eh? ;)

I feel the same way....I own up to what I say and report. :)

112 n in wi  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:38am

re: #107 lifeofthemind

~BHO

"Can I finish my waffle?"

113 Wishing  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:47am

Totally OT, but fascinating!
Wooly Mammoth to Go Live?

114 yah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:47am

The graphics are just beautiful.
The content and graphs are impressive.
The number of participating blogs is heartening.

I don't know if Iraq will remain stable. But we have sacrificed much, some have sacrificed everything, to give them the opportunity to have what every American has: Freedom.

Today, November 22, 2008, the Iraqi people are free. That is Victory.

115 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:48am

re: #107 lifeofthemind

~BHO

"Can't I just eat my waffle?"

-BHO

116 MrSnuggles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:11:02am

Can we have Petreus run for president in 2012?

117 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:11:09am

Your Weekly Address from the President-elect
Obama's answer to the economic crisis seems to be putting people to work on windfarms and solar plants.

118 RubyTuesday  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:11:10am

Several celebrity sightings in the Phoenix airport yesterday - many troops coming or going. Oh yeah, and John McCain.

119 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:11:30am

re: #110 Last Mohican

I agree.

Although it's also worth noting that the exclamation point doesn't appear to actually do anything to the reportee, other than sending a report to Charles. This is unlike the situation on Youtube, for example, where you can have any video flagged as "adult content," and therefore made more difficult to see, without the intervention of a moderator, and without any legitimate reason at all.

Thank the stars Charles runs a responsible blog, thank you very much. :)

120 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:11:32am

re: #112 n in wi

"Can I finish my waffle corned beef?"

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

121 jetprop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:05am
122 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:11am

re: #113 Wishing

Totally OT, but fascinating!
Wooly Mammoth to Go Live?

Haven't we seen this movie? Can you imagine the intellectual property lawyers preparing to sue over this?

123 jetprop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:26am

re: #107 lifeofthemind

~BHO

LOL

124 n in wi  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:41am

re: #120 sattv4u2

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


BHO
"Can I waffle on any topic?"

125 Athos  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:54am

re: #62 realwest

Well said. Those who stayed the course, who called for the changes that were needed in 2004-5, who took the flak in 2006 around the debate to implement the surge, do deserve the recognition for their commitment to watch the backs of our armed forces engaged on the frontlines. Not every enemy was in the Middle East.

126 jetprop  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:13:36am

re: #121 jetprop

Ace of Spades
Jawa Report

..oops it's already up at Jawa

127 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:13:42am

re: #44 gregg Thank you for posting that. It was very moving and so appropriate to this day.
Again, thank you.

128 Iron Fist  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:13:42am

re: #103 FrogMarch

Don't forget Hillary "willling Suspension of disbelief" Clinton. And Murthafucker, and who could forvet Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda)?

All the Democrat leadership was for losing the war. And now Obama is going to get one last shot at pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. I suspect that he will work way harder on that than he will on almost any of his domestic agenda. Except for gun control, of course.

129 debutaunt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:13:57am

re: #77 Thanos

Rodin(t)?

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

130 Irene NYC  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:14:20am

Thanks to our wonderful military and their families for all their sacrifices in Iraq.

And thanks to zombie for all his/her efforts to honor them.

131 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:14:27am
“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?-- I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.”

-BHO

wow - the man is a genius.

132 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:14:43am

re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans

Perverted minds think alike, eh? ;)

I feel the same way....I own up to what I say and report. :)

Except for my more inept attempts at punning. I'm well aware that you are Vulcan-mindmelding them into my brain! ... You prevert, you!

/must maintain a semblance of victimhood, to match the Popular Culture

133 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:14:49am

re: #116 MrSnuggles

Can we have Petreus run for president in 2012?

Not to disparage the man I would prefer the Republicans put up as a candidate a man that is a worthy political candidate and not just another war hero who capitulates on the political battleground. Being a great military leader is not an indication of being a great political leader, especially one with clear cut Conservative positions.

134 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:15:04am

re: #70 wahabicorridor
Spot on and AMEN!

135 Thanos  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:15:40am

re: #129 debutaunt

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.


sorry misspelling

it's Rodan(t)

136 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:16:01am

re: #131 FrogMarch

-BHO

wow - the man is a genius.

When you are sent to the "re-education camp", you can bet your bottom dollar you'll be planting the people's arugula!
/

137 Iron Fist  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:16:11am

re: #106 Athos

They've got something wrong with them, that's for sure. I hope I never get banned, but if I do I'd like to think I'd have more important things to do with my life than obssess of it.

138 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:16:12am

re: #114 yah

The graphics are just beautiful.
The content and graphs are impressive.
The number of participating blogs is heartening.

I don't know if Iraq will remain stable. But we have sacrificed much, some have sacrificed everything, to give them the opportunity to have what every American has: Freedom.

Today, November 22, 2008, the Iraqi people are free. That is Victory.

The Iraqis have been given the ability and awesome responsibility to either fail or achieve greatness on their own.

139 Sharmuta  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:16:45am

re: #81 Charles

He's had at least four accounts:

Hateful Hater
Rodan
The Joker
Conquistador

Wasn't he also "Akita" or some such?

140 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:17:19am

re: #85 carti3r
From one old vet (Vietnam, class of '70) to a current one: thank you for your service to our nation and Godspeed.

141 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:17:23am

re: #104 Dr. Shalit

zombie -

A suggestion - HOT AIR - think Michelle might like it.

No, actually. Those two sites have expressed hesitancy to post about it. Which is understandable. They're more mainstream, and I think fear being held to account if, 18 months from now, someone stubs their toe in Fallujah and the Left screams, "See? Defeat! Iraq is in turmoil And you foolishly declared victory! Hahahahaha!"

I actually understand their reasoning behind not posting about it, because they have more of a "brand" to protect. It's perfectly fine -- VI Day is completely voluntary! Most bloggers are on board, but not all.

142 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:17:50am

HOME
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The Soldier's Creed


I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the
United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.

143 Jaded  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:17:58am

Well what can one say except...We have the BEST DAMN MILITARY IN THE WORLD! One excellent way to celebrate today is to go on over to Soldiers Angels and donate to the Project Valour IT program....give a little to each service because the Marines and Army tend to tear it up and this WIN was a team WIN as they usually are!

I suggest perhaps 22 dollars to each branch! Just to recognize today!

144 jcm  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:18:05am

re: #113 Wishing

Totally OT, but fascinating!
Wooly Mammoth to Go Live?

Saw that movie, didn't turn out too well IIRC.
/

145 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:18:15am

re: #131 FrogMarch

-BHO

wow - the man is a genius.

Just out of curiosity I priced arugula at my local grocer - they were charging $8 a head! Obama was right (for once).

146 n in wi  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:18:33am

re: #138 FurryOldGuyJeans

The Iraqis have been given the ability and awesome responsibility to either fail or achieve greatness on their own.



"On their own". Now I get the lib opposition to it. They oppose anybody doing anything on their own.

147 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:19:35am

re: #119 FurryOldGuyJeans

Thank the stars Charles runs a responsible blog, thank you very much. :)

Amen. LGF was my first foray into commenting. I wouldn't have registered had it not been a decent, upright, blog.

148 Charles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:19:43am

re: #139 Sharmuta

Wasn't he also "Akita" or some such?

Good memory. Other accounts this person has used:

BombIranNow
Akita

149 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:20:37am

re: #128 Iron Fist

Yep. The defeat-first democrats were all climbing over each other yelling "No -I'm more anti-war - and I was anti-war first, and I voted against the war, and I ..."

Never mind the democrat party spent the whole of the 1990s bitching fears about Saddam and how we should have finished the job during the first gulf war. The dems are never satisfied and any amount of hypocrisy they douse all over our national security is fine by them as long as it scores political points with the KOS Huffpo assholes.

150 carti3r  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:21:04am

re: #88 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #89 Wishing

Thank you. I really have not been able to contribute a whole lot. I am receiving training right now that I am very proud of and cannot wait to use it in the field.

151 greenmiler  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:21:38am

re: #44 gregg great letter; Im sure MSNBC will read it on the air; not really but wonderful and 'ding-worthy':)

152 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:01am

re: #125 Athos Thank you my friend.
" Not every enemy was in the Middle East." How true and how nauseating at the same time and for the same reason.

153 gegenkritik  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:11am

Congratulations to the USA and their allies, all the best for the Iraqi people and a big f*ck off to those who spit on freedom.

[Link: gegenkritik.wordpress.com...]

154 MandyManners  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:27am
155 debutaunt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:30am

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Your Weekly Address from the President-elect
Obama's answer to the economic crisis seems to be putting people to work on windfarms and solar plants.

This morning on Fox, leftie said that the car companies didn't make cars people wanted to buy. Jonathan Hoenig said, then they should fail. Leftie said they should be bailed out. Hoenig said why. Leftie said they've just turned a corner. hahahahahahhahahahahhahaa

156 logboy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:39am

Forgive me for the difference in opinion, but this is one Iraq Vet who isnt jumping on the bandwagon quite yet. Just because we've had a few months of relative calm doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet. Some were starting to say the same thing while I was there in 2006 because the number of attacks and deaths were going down. Unfortunately, things change very quickly over there. In the latter part of 2006 Iran stepped up its efforts in Iraq with their assistance to the Shiite militias. This was in the form of "weapons experts", cash, weapons, etc. The most common form of assistance was the EFP, or explosively formed penetrator, a nasty shape charge that will punch through any armored vehicle. December 2006 became the second deadliest month ever for US troops at 112. This was double, or even triple the number of deaths for each of the previous six months. I was lucky. I escaped with my life, but not without the loss of one arm. So please excuse me for saying this, but we're not out of the woods yet. Things can still go bad, and Obama and his fellow Clinton era staffers can still screw this up. When I feel the time is right, I will jump on the bandwagon with everyone else. But I'm not going to yet.

157 ROP?LOL  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:56am

Thank God for the best men and women in the world.
And if it hasn't been said, I'm sorry but it it needs to be: Fuck you Harry Reid.

158 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:57am

re: #146 n in wi

"On their own". Now I get the lib opposition to it. They oppose anybody doing anything on their own.

The Iraqis are learning what a majority of Americans have so blithely forgotten or willfully ignored.

159 Backstaber  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:23:40am

God Bless our Troops!

And God Bless the people of Iraq!

Victory!

160 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:23:56am

re: #145 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Just out of curiosity I priced arugula at my local grocer - they were charging $8 a head! Obama was right (for once).

He may be right, but his job isn't the new tonight show host. He's our new leader. I feel like we just elected Jon Stewart. (and I detest Jon Stewart.)


Oh well - the dems are going to kill off the auto industry by forcing card check on non-union (healthy modern) auto manufacturers. The UAW must be purged and pushed out - that's how you save GM - but I digress...

161 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:24:10am

re: #156 logboy

Forgive me for the difference in opinion, but this is one Iraq Vet who isnt jumping on the bandwagon quite yet. Just because we've had a few months of relative calm doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet. Some were starting to say the same thing while I was there in 2006 because the number of attacks and deaths were going down. Unfortunately, things change very quickly over there. In the latter part of 2006 Iran stepped up its efforts in Iraq with their assistance to the Shiite militias. This was in the form of "weapons experts", cash, weapons, etc. The most common form of assistance was the EFP, or explosively formed penetrator, a nasty shape charge that will punch through any armored vehicle. December 2006 became the second deadliest month ever for US troops at 112. This was double, or even triple the number of deaths for each of the previous six months. I was lucky. I escaped with my life, but not without the loss of one arm. So please excuse me for saying this, but we're not out of the woods yet. Things can still go bad, and Obama and his fellow Clinton era staffers can still screw this up. When I feel the time is right, I will jump on the bandwagon with everyone else. But I'm not going to yet.

Noted, and thank you.

162 MrSnuggles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:24:13am

re: #133 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not to disparage the man I would prefer the Republicans put up as a candidate a man that is a worthy political candidate and not just another war hero who capitulates on the political battleground. Being a great military leader is not an indication of being a great political leader, especially one with clear cut Conservative positions.

It is my understanding that Petreus has clear cut conservative positions. And why not have a general as president? It has only been 50 some odd years since the last one, and he wasn't too bad.

163 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:24:22am

re: #108 ciaospirit

Posted at my website. And I made it my screensaver. We're proud of our Troops! Never faltered, never surrendered, never abandoned freedom's fight. You have won the war. We know it. You know it. And to hell with the traitors! We join you in celebrating a job well done.

Great! I added you to the "Blogroll of Honor" (bottom left of the list). Thanks!

164 Hobbes  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:24:37am

Thanks Zombie and Charles for making this a SPECIAL DAY for our wonderful troops and their families. We all have a lot to thank them for. Let's break out the champagne, drop all the red, white and blue balloons and wave OUR FLAG!

165 Athos  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:25:02am

re: #128 Iron Fist

That's one of the arguments towards setting today / now as a milestone with the declaration of victory in Iraq. While still unable to be entirely independent, the new agreement when ratified by the Iraqi Parliament, would set the start of the fourth and likely final stage of the war. From this point forward, the burden of seeing the process through the home stretch successfully will be on the President elect and the Democrat leadership.

If they do snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and a repeat of 1975-1979 takes place - they will own the stench of that failure and resulting carnage for decades. They are now accountable and responsible for the results. Those are two things the D are not used to being.

166 Iron Fist  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:25:11am

re: #149 FrogMarch

Yeah, and I'd go one step further: they aren't anti-war. They are actively cheering for the other side. Nothing proves this point better than the endless hammering the military took from Abu Grabass. Our enemies cut off people's heads. We're supposed to be worst thing that has ever come down the pike because a couple of moron put panties on the heads of some terrorists.

Yeah, that makes sense.

167 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:25:19am

re: #141 zombie
Zombie - first of all thank you for all of this.
Secondly, it's a sad time in the blogosphere when concern over the impact on your "brand name" keeps you from celebrating with the rest of us.
I still respect Hot Air and Michelle Malkin, just not quite as much as I used to.

168 Last Mohican  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:25:43am

re: #143 Jaded

One excellent way to celebrate today is to go on over to Soldiers Angels and donate to the Project Valour IT program....

Great idea. It only takes seconds to donate. Here are some links:

Learn about Project Valour-IT

Donate to Project Valour-IT (donations end November 27)

Soldiers Angels home page

169 jcm  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:26:42am

re: #156 logboy

Forgive me for the difference in opinion, but this is one Iraq Vet who isnt jumping on the bandwagon quite yet. Just because we've had a few months of relative calm doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet. Some were starting to say the same thing while I was there in 2006 because the number of attacks and deaths were going down. Unfortunately, things change very quickly over there. In the latter part of 2006 Iran stepped up its efforts in Iraq with their assistance to the Shiite militias. This was in the form of "weapons experts", cash, weapons, etc. The most common form of assistance was the EFP, or explosively formed penetrator, a nasty shape charge that will punch through any armored vehicle. December 2006 became the second deadliest month ever for US troops at 112. This was double, or even triple the number of deaths for each of the previous six months. I was lucky. I escaped with my life, but not without the loss of one arm. So please excuse me for saying this, but we're not out of the woods yet. Things can still go bad, and Obama and his fellow Clinton era staffers can still screw this up. When I feel the time is right, I will jump on the bandwagon with everyone else. But I'm not going to yet.

Two reasons for a VI day now.
First, there will be no sharp line we cross from war to victory, like you so well put in your post.
Second deny the victory claim to Obama, withdrawal is not the same as victory.

170 carti3r  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:26:48am

re: #142 Dustyvet

For all the Airman out There.

I am an American Airman.
I am a Warrior.
I have answered my Nation's Call.

I am an American Airman.
My mission is to Fly, Fight, and Win.
I am faithful to a proud heritage.
A tradition of Honor, and a Legacy of Valor.

I am an American Airman.
Guardian of Freedom and Justice.
My Nation's Sword and Shield.
It's Sentry and Avenger.
I defend my country with my life.

I am an American Airman.
Wingman. Leader. Warrior.
I will never leave an Airman behind.
I will never falter...
AND I WILL NOT FAIL!

171 lifeofthemind  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:26:49am

re: #156 logboy

Just remember that the fight is never truly over but it is important to celebrate when you can. Celebrate a quiet time but stay vigilant, celebrate a child's smile but stay vigilant, work never ends.

172 itellu3times  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:27:01am

re: #133 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not to disparage the man I would prefer the Republicans put up as a candidate a man that is a worthy political candidate and not just another war hero who capitulates on the political battleground. Being a great military leader is not an indication of being a great political leader, especially one with clear cut Conservative positions.

Just give Petreus a chance, he's reported to be a clear thinker generally (!), and being a flag officer has a big political component to it, too.

173 carti3r  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:28:49am

re: #140 realwest

Thank you for your service. You and all Veterans are personal heroes of mine.

174 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:29:04am

This is pretty cool.....
Blu's Muto (animated graffiti)

175 3 wood  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:29:06am

Thank you to the troops for their unfailing integrity and dedication to duty to protect this country from enemies both domestic and foreign.

176 itellu3times  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:29:35am

re: #156 logboy

Certainly, you're right. Frankly, Iraq has barely had a good decade in a couple of thousand years. Any victory we get there, has to be kept separate from what happens to them, tomorrow.

177 warnergt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:29:47am

Of course Free Frank Warner celebrates. Frank is the unusual combination of a liberal for liberation.

178 livetotell  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:30:15am

It may not be an "official day" but my flag is flying . God bless America !

179 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:31:34am

re: #162 MrSnuggles

It is my understanding that Petreus has clear cut conservative positions. And why not have a general as president? It has only been 50 some odd years since the last one, and he wasn't too bad.

We have also had failures, some quite spectacular like Grant and Carter. McCain was by no means a paragon of Conservative values by a long shot, his military record was exemplary. Shortly after Gulf War 1 there were people who were cheerleading Colin Powell be put up as a candidate and see where he went politically? If we want a good solid candidate we need to see that they are good at politics as well as on the battlefield.

The goal of the military is incompatible with the goal of politics.

180 FrogMarch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:31:37am

re: #166 Iron Fist

Yeah, and I'd go one step further: they aren't anti-war. They are actively cheering for the other side. Nothing proves this point better than the endless hammering the military took from Abu Grabass. Our enemies cut off people's heads. We're supposed to be worst thing that has ever come down the pike because a couple of moron put panties on the heads of some terrorists.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Abu-Grabass. Yeah - that was a GIFT to the DNC media.

181 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:31:49am

re: #121 jetprop

Ace of Spades
Jawa Report

Thanks. But neither is an epic essay -- just basic posts. I'm looking for the real interesting/long/insightful/moving ones. I've hundreds of blogs to plow through! Hard to find the "best."

182 Hobbes  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:32:48am

re: #156 logboy

Forgive me for the difference in opinion, but this is one Iraq Vet who isnt jumping on the bandwagon quite yet. Just because we've had a few months of relative calm doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet. Some were starting to say the same thing while I was there in 2006 because the number of attacks and deaths were going down. Unfortunately, things change very quickly over there. In the latter part of 2006 Iran stepped up its efforts in Iraq with their assistance to the Shiite militias. This was in the form of "weapons experts", cash, weapons, etc. The most common form of assistance was the EFP, or explosively formed penetrator, a nasty shape charge that will punch through any armored vehicle. December 2006 became the second deadliest month ever for US troops at 112. This was double, or even triple the number of deaths for each of the previous six months. I was lucky. I escaped with my life, but not without the loss of one arm. So please excuse me for saying this, but we're not out of the woods yet. Things can still go bad, and Obama and his fellow Clinton era staffers can still screw this up. When I feel the time is right, I will jump on the bandwagon with everyone else. But I'm not going to yet.

Points well made. But I still want to celebrate and honor all the sacrifices you and all the others in the military have made to keep us all safe. You are our heroes !

183 right_in_canada  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:32:50am

re: #4 sattv4u2


Yeah, but that was before the "Chosen One" was (s)elected .

Now everything is hunky-dory, the birds are singing, the flowers are in bloom, the sun is shining, people are dancing in the streets, the war is over, world peace is here , blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah,........

184 3 wood  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:33:34am

re: #173 carti3r

Thank you for your service. You and all Veterans are personal heroes of mine.

And every one of these heroes (yes, realwest, that includes you) always says that they sere just doing their jobs.

As opposed the politicians in Washington who are always trying to take credit for the sun coming up in the morning.

185 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:33:45am

re: #156 logboy
Your difference of opinion is duly noted and I will add that I had some concerns about this as well, but the Iraqi people have indeed come a long way towards being their own, independent and self-sustaining democratic government and while you may be right (though I know we both pray you are wrong) about future situations evolving, now seems to be as good a time as any to "celebrate" before the Democrats can let go of all that you and your fellow veterans have obtained.
And thank you, personally, for your service and sacrifice to our Nation.

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:33:48am

re: #172 itellu3times

Just give Petreus a chance, he's reported to be a clear thinker generally (!), and being a flag officer has a big political component to it, too.

If he fights it out on the political battlefield as well as he did on the military one I certainly would be enthusiastic about a President Petreus.

187 ROP?LOL  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:34:31am

Victory
Victory
That's our cry
V
I
C
T
O
R
Y
!

188 logboy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:34:41am

re: #168 Last Mohican

Great idea. It only takes seconds to donate. Here are some links:

Learn about Project Valour-IT

Donate to Project Valour-IT (donations end November 27)

Soldiers Angels home page

Project Valour-IT and Soldiers Angels are WONDERFUL! They gave me a laptop with voice recognition software when I was still a patient on Ward 57. They always (and still so, almost two years later) kept in touch with my wife to see if there was anything that we needed help with. One of them even tracked down a nurse in Germany who had taken photos of me in Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. If you are looking to donate, they are a great group to send your money to.

189 realwest  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:36:06am

Well all y'all it's been grand but I have chores I MUST attend to.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

190 gregg  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:36:14am

re: #181 zombie

Thanks. But neither is an epic essay -- just basic posts. I'm looking for the real interesting/long/insightful/moving ones. I've hundreds of blogs to plow through! Hard to find the "best."

This might qualify.

191 Kulhwch  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:36:30am
re: #19 zombie

THANKS TO OUR SERVICE MEMBERS WHO WON THIS WAR IN THE FACE OF TERRIBLE ODDS FROM TRAITORS AT HOME AND TERRORISTS ABROAD.

}:)     [Amen.]

192 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:36:53am

re: #153 gegenkritik

Congratulations to the USA and their allies, all the best for the Iraqi people and a big f*ck off to those who spit on freedom.

[Link: gegenkritik.wordpress.com...]

FANTASTIC POST!

I have just added you to the "best of the best" list at the top of the page.

Thanks!

193 midwestgak  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:36:59am

test

194 carti3r  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:38:43am

re: #184 3 wood

And every one of these heroes (yes, realwest, that includes you) always says that they sere just doing their jobs.

As opposed the politicians in Washington who are always trying to take credit for the sun coming up in the morning.

As the world turns....

195 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:39:00am

re: #156 logboy

Forgive me for the difference in opinion, but this is one Iraq Vet who isnt jumping on the bandwagon quite yet. Just because we've had a few months of relative calm doesn't mean we're out of the woods yet. Some were starting to say the same thing while I was there in 2006 because the number of attacks and deaths were going down. Unfortunately, things change very quickly over there. In the latter part of 2006 Iran stepped up its efforts in Iraq with their assistance to the Shiite militias. This was in the form of "weapons experts", cash, weapons, etc. The most common form of assistance was the EFP, or explosively formed penetrator, a nasty shape charge that will punch through any armored vehicle. December 2006 became the second deadliest month ever for US troops at 112. This was double, or even triple the number of deaths for each of the previous six months. I was lucky. I escaped with my life, but not without the loss of one arm. So please excuse me for saying this, but we're not out of the woods yet. Things can still go bad, and Obama and his fellow Clinton era staffers can still screw this up. When I feel the time is right, I will jump on the bandwagon with everyone else. But I'm not going to yet.

All good points.

However, if you read my full essay, you will see this very point addressed. To take the liberty to quote one section:

- What if the violence flares up again next year or in the future? We'll look foolish.

A: If violence flares up in the future, that will be part of a new conflict, a different war. I'm not pretending to be able to predict the future; all I know is that the war we had been fighting is over. I sincerely hope that Iraq has peace for years to come; but yes, there could be fighting in the future, though it will not inherently be the continuation of this war. On occasion throughout history, in fact, after wars end, new subsequent wars spring up in their wake. The Vietnam War, for example, started in 1946 in the turmoil after WWII, and continued under various names until 1975. Yet do we consider the Vietnam War part of WWII, just because it was partially caused by it and immediately followed it? No. Similarly, the Russian Civil War grew out of WWI, yet they too are considered separate wars.

So if, in the future, some new conflict arises, we won't need to feel "foolish" for having declared victory in this war; it just means that a new war has broken out. Iran and Iraq have had terrible relations dating back to 1979, often erupting into skirmishes or full-scale war; and if Iran (or its proxies) tries to invade Iraq again in 2010 or 2013, that will be a new war; not this war. And if homegrown Ba'athists or jihadists spend years plotting a coup and then try to ignite a new civil war in 2011 or beyond -- once again, that will be a separate conflict. Not this war.

196 greenmiler  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:39:05am

I am ex-Air Force, from the Reagan era so we didn't have to fight much;)but I salute those today and all who have gone before

197 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:39:13am

re: #188 logboy

I'm a soldiers' angel and personally acquainted with the founder. I'll be sure to share your comments with her.

198 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:41:30am

re: #197 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm a soldiers' angel and personally acquainted with the founder. I'll be sure to share your comments with her.

This is the group that 1/2 cookbook proceeds will be donated to.

199 The Undead Buddy Holly  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:41:39am

One year after the troops withdraw and an Iraq secular democratic republic is still standing, I'll buy the champagne.

Till then, claiming "victory" is presumptuous at best.

200 gman  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:41:45am

re: #185 realwest

Your difference of opinion is duly noted and I will add that I had some concerns about this as well, but the Iraqi people have indeed come a long way towards being their own, independent and self-sustaining democratic government and while you may be right (though I know we both pray you are wrong) about future situations evolving, now seems to be as good a time as any to "celebrate" before the Democrats can let go of all that you and your fellow veterans have obtained.
And thank you, personally, for your service and sacrifice to our Nation.

Good point realwest. We need to celebrate now before the Dems sit on their hands, possibly let the situation deteriorate, and do nothing except whine it was "Bushies War".

201 MrSnuggles  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:41:50am

re: #179 FurryOldGuyJeans

We have also had failures, some quite spectacular like Grant and Carter. McCain was by no means a paragon of Conservative values by a long shot, his military record was exemplary. Shortly after Gulf War 1 there were people who were cheerleading Colin Powell be put up as a candidate and see where he went politically? If we want a good solid candidate we need to see that they are good at politics as well as on the battlefield.

The goal of the military is incompatible with the goal of politics.

Petraeus far outranks McCain, Carter, and pretty much anyone with a military background that has run for president in the past few decades. The man clearly has the skills to lead and a resume that makes Obama look like a preschooler.

And at least it would shut people up about who needs to be kicked out of the party since I think every Republican would have an easy time supporting him.

202 legalpad  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:41:59am

re: #44 gregg

From the article -

an American combat team will rush to support ours before even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been given to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to those who liberated France and Europe.

Thanks for that - It's funny though, it doesn't matter how dangerous the mission is, except tactically. We are coming regardless. To American Combat soldiers, it does not occur to them not to go.

203 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:42:31am

re: #198 reine.de.tout

This is the group that 1/2 cookbook proceeds will be donated to.

No kidding? That's great!

204 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:42:32am

re: #190 gregg

This might qualify.

Yes, it's good -- that's because the entire post is mostly just a re-post of my original essay!

205 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:44:11am

With gratitude to our President, George W. Bush;

To the troops who give, and gave, their lives in defense of our nation and our Constitutional freedoms;

To the courageous Iraqis who risked their lives and their families, sometimes paying the ultimate price, in order to stand against tyranny;

To all those, from all over the world, who joined and supported them in affirming the humanity of the oppressed.

Let freedom ring!

206 legalpad  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:45:15am

re: #195 zombie

It would be nice to reach some conclusions about Iran now. That might help stabilize Iraq's future.

207 reine.de.tout  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:49:32am

re: #203 Pvt Bin Jammin

No kidding? That's great!

No kidding. I made personal donation to them last year and year before, and think they do great work

208 gegenkritik  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:52:44am

re: #192 zombie

Thank you very much!

209 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:53:01am

re: #199 The Undead Buddy Holly

One year after the troops withdraw and an Iraq secular democratic republic is still standing, I'll buy the champagne.

Till then, claiming "victory" is presumptuous at best.

Read the entire essay, and get back to me.

210 valkyrie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:53:02am

re: #192 zombie

FANTASTIC POST!

I have just added you to the "best of the best" list at the top of the page.

Thanks!

An EXCELLENT post. And, Gegenkritik, I love the photo you used for the post of the American soldier with the Iraqi children. This Victory in Iraq Day is also for them, for the Iraqi children, who can celebrate the fact that they can now enjoy the freedoms that so many of us here in America take for granted.

211 vyktor  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:53:26am

It's a travesty that the anti-American mass media & our anti-American President-elect have tried to keep our victory over El Qaida a secret. Maybe they think that pride goeth before a fall. Or, more likely, they are just mean-spirited.

212 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:54:51am

re: #207 reine.de.tout

They really are a good group. I've been a member for four years now.

213 CLLRusso  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:55:37am

re: #191 Kulhwch

}:)     [Amen.]

And thank you Lord for bringing mine home safely. For those not so fortunate give them peace and comfort and the thanks of a grateful nation for their sacrifice.

214 notutopia  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:59:35am

re: #163 zombie

Zombie, Please add a special thank you to Michael Yon
[Link: www.michaelyon-online.com...]
: )

215 poopeedoo  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:00:37pm

Thank you for participating, Charles!

Many thanks, prayers and praises to those who have made a difference in Iraq. We've rid the country of some extremely evil leaders, given them a taste of democracy, trained their police force and re-built their country, to name a few of the many "positives".

Blessings to all of you!

216 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:01:23pm

re: #214 notutopia

Zombie, Please add a special thank you to Michael Yon
[Link: www.michaelyon-online.com...]
: )

I mention him right near the beginning of the essay:

I have felt for many months that we had already won the war, but I was spurred to action by this report from Michael Yon:
"THE WAR IS OVER AND WE WON:" Michael Yon just phoned from Baghdad, and reports that things are much better than he had expected, and he had expected things to be good. "There's nothing going on. I'm with the 10th Mountain Division, and about half of the guys I'm with haven't fired their weapons on this tour and they've been here eight months. And the place we're at, South Baghdad, used to be one of the worst places in Iraq. And now there's nothing going on. I've been walking my feet off and haven't seen anything."

Since he hasn't actually linked to VI Day on his site, I can't add him to the list participating blogs, important though he may be.

217 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:02:59pm

re: #156 logboy

As stated above, noted, and thank you.

I will also suggest you read Michael J. Totten, who has been covering events in the Middle East, including many major operation centers in Iraq, for several years. He has a longer-range before-and-after view, not just of Iraq, but also of how events in Iraq have influenced lives elsewhere. He recently returned to Baghdad after a brief hiatus, to see for himself how different things are from just a year ago. He hasn't filed a report yet, except to say that he has landed in Baghdad.

218 Davida  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:04:00pm

I heard an Iraqi man that called into a radio program this last week and was expressing astonishment that the media in the US was not reporting how good things were in Iraq now.

I too am thankful that my son came home safe from his tour of duty in Iraq. I will add my voice to the others in thanks to all those who gave their lives to rid the world of a sadistic murderer and his sons who were even worse.

219 tompaineftw  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:04:11pm

A hearty thank you to all the troops. We love you all.

220 NY Nana's sockpuppet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:07:36pm

re: #56 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sockpuppet? We don't need no dumb sockpuppets! ;)

[I will now jump back into the hamper!]

221 gegenkritik  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:09:08pm

re: #210 valkyrie

An EXCELLENT post. And, Gegenkritik, I love the photo you used for the post of the American soldier with the Iraqi children. This Victory in Iraq Day is also for them, for the Iraqi children, who can celebrate the fact that they can now enjoy the freedoms that so many of us here in America take for granted.

Thank you. The VI-logo was made by a friend of mine.
You are absolutely right, VI-Day is also dedicated to the Iraqi children.
Big thanks to Zombie for making this celebration possible.

222 tappin52  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:09:42pm

Zombie,
You did an amazing job. Thanks for letting us participate in something patriotic and pro USA for a change1

223 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:17:00pm

God bless our brave men and women in uniform! This would not be possible without you!

224 AceR  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:18:15pm

I am an American who is so proud of our military troops and the victory they have secured in Iraq. I honor all of the brave men and women who have served in our military (past, present, or future), to secure the many freedoms we enjoy. Our country is blessed because of your sacrifice. May God bless you and your families.

I recently joined Operation Welcome Home Maryland ([Link: www.operationwelcomehomemd.org...] as a way to express my appreciation for our military troops. Hundreds of well wishers sporting red, white and blue colors come to BWI to welcome home the troops as they arrive from Iraq and Afganistan to the sounds of clapping, cheering, and whistling. Last Thursday night, there was a couple of Girl Scout troops singing and giving away Girl Scout cookies to them.

I encourage you to check out this website (especially check out the pictures and the comments).

And if anyone lives near BWI airport in Maryland, and has a couple of hours to spare, I would encourage you to come and join us as we welcome home our troops!

225 zelnaga  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:20:10pm

re: #201 MrSnuggles

Petraeus far outranks McCain, Carter, and pretty much anyone with a military background that has run for president in the past few decades.


I'm trying to think of everyone who has run with military experience...

McCain, O-6 POW, Kerry, O-2, and Bush, O-2... anyone else?

Ross Perot's running mate, James Stockdale, was an O-9 POW, but then, he wasn't running for president, either.

226 Josephine  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:21:22pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Robert Spencer's genocidal ex-lizard pals at the stalker blog.

I am not defending any stalker blogs.

I dinged this down because I object to this characterization of Robert Spencer.

I've read many of the inflammatory comments in various threads here about Robert Spencer and I disagree with them all.

And please, for the love Pete, I don't need to read Walter's partial email quotation again. He consistently fails to quote the other emails from Mr. Spencer.

It feels as if every thread I read nowadays contains smears against Robert Spencer. It is unpleasant, to say the least.

Obviously, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I realize that I am in the minority here.

227 AceR  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:22:30pm

My bad...

The link to Operation Welcome Home in Maryland is:

[Link: www.operationwelcomehomemd.org...]

228 mattm  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:28:56pm

The Losers, the dems and their retreat plan.

229 Silvergirl  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:31:00pm

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
--John 15:13

Our debt is great. I salute all who fought and fell, all who served, all who continue to serve, and I thank you for your sacrifice and noble endeavor.

This goes out to family and friends who serve(d), and to those not personally known to me. With gratitude we think of courage, endurance, and love of country when we think of you.

230 Brees  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:37:43pm

Haven't read all the comments but.................

Google doesn't have any commemorative artwork on their homepage logo!

Hmmm.

I wonder why?

231 Pigtown Water Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:38:37pm

Thank you, brave ones, for giving so many people in this world REAL hope. I am so proud of you, and of my country. Thank you.

Thank you, (((zombie))).

232 debutaunt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:42:24pm

re: #230 Brees

Haven't read all the comments but.................

Google doesn't have any commemorative artwork on their homepage logo!

Hmmm.

I wonder why?

They weren't invited.

233 wiffersnapper  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:44:34pm

Happy VI day everyone! God Bless our troops!

234 NY Nana  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 12:58:55pm

For our wonderful troops! G-d bless you all, and your families who are so proud of you.

You stayed the course.No cut and run like the Demonrats wanted...and thank you, President Bush for your steadfast support.

235 Steve  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:02:42pm

Bought breakfast for a couple of our military men last month. Told the waitress that there money was no good as long as I was in the restaurant. Thanks troops for a job well done.

236 Cheechako  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:12:26pm

Caution - New hatchling here. Struggeling to get on his feet, er legs. Been wandering around the site to become familiar with what's where.

Now standing tall to salute our troops.

I'd like to think of myself as part of this crowd:

Homecoming by Budweiser

237 LEGION  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:19:46pm

Smell that? You smell that?
What?
Nothing in the world smells like that.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Smelled like... victory.

But the way the Commie MSM is ignoring Victory in Iraqi Day- stinks.

238 debutaunt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:31:29pm

re: #236 Cheechako

Caution - New hatchling here. Struggeling to get on his feet, er legs. Been wandering around the site to become familiar with what's where.

Now standing tall to salute our troops.

I'd like to think of myself as part of this crowd:

Homecoming by Budweiser

I gently pinched your Cheek, Cheechako.

239 outsidephilly  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:03pm

re: #108 ciaospirit

Posted at my website. And I made it my screensaver. We're proud of our Troops! Never faltered, never surrendered, never abandoned freedom's fight. You have won the war. We know it. You know it. And to hell with the traitors! We join you in celebrating a job well done.



a ga-zillion up dings to you!

240 haakondahl  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:32:34pm

re: #85 carti3r

I am filled with so many emotions when I read things like this. It's helps knowing that the hard work and man hours are truly appreciated.

God bless our troops for sacrificing their time, energy, rights, and even lives to protect this great country of ours.

I will be in Afghanistan soon enough, and hopefully I too can make a difference.

Not only for the US, but for the number of Afghans who support us in the quest for human rights and modernization.

Hey, buddy! I'm in Afghanistan now, and let me tell you--we are making a difference! I was on a tour of some facilities being re-arranged, and the Afghan officer I was with proudly pointed out his sergeants, saying "Look at how organized they are--they are truly modern soldiers with skills and dedication."
He was right, of course, but that was not the impressive part--the part that really struck me was that this officer was praising his men in public, and in fact gave them credit which he could easily have taken as his own.
In a tribal society, connections and influence, and no small amount of patronage will get you very far, and it is quite respectable. In this way the peace is kept, and the families are fed, and society benefits.
In a more modern model, though, those same traits will get you labelled as corrupt. One of the issues here is helping the Afghan servicemembers and police to be comfortable letting a large bureaucratic system function as it must, and have faith in the benefits thereof. Another is the similar difficulty in letting authority and ownership rest at the lowest level possible, while retaining responsibility. This is a difficult bit of education to get done, as only through actually feeling it work do you ever really believe in it, and even then, I have seen plenty of people on our own side of the fence who have never mastered the art.
So it just made my day to see that Afghan officer refer to his men in such proud terms.
Now if only some more of my own companions would get around to it. [sigh]

I am in Balkh province. Do not tell me where you are going, as this is not the place to discuss travel plans, and you may not be going where you think you are anyway. But do look me up when you get here. You'll know how when you get to your destination.

241 haakondahl  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:34:00pm

re: #236 Cheechako

Welcome, pale cold one.

242 big L  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:43:52pm

Great job by all. Hats off to great c in c--Pres Bush.

243 carti3r  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:44:22pm

re: #240 haakondahl


So it just made my day to see that Afghan officer refer to his men in such proud terms.
Now if only some more of my own companions would get around to it. [sigh]

I am in Balkh province. Do not tell me where you are going, as this is not the place to discuss travel plans, and you may not be going where you think you are anyway. But do look me up when you get here. You'll know how when you get to your destination.

Yeah, I wouldn't do that on an open forum, Heh.

It's fantastic to hear such news. I know how the Afghans operate on a very general level right now, more in depth to come soon, but it is very uplifting to hear about that officer. Great strides are being made, and only more to come.

244 Macker  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:45:14pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Your Weekly Address from the President-elect
Obama's answer to the economic crisis seems to be putting people to work on windfarms and solar plants.

What really bothers me is that he's actively engaged in shadow governance and he hasn't even taken office yet.

245 debutaunt  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:48:44pm

re: #244 Macker

What really bothers me is that he's actively engaged in shadow governance and he hasn't even taken office yet.

*Trumpet sounds*

Hail to the chief-elect - ta dah!

246 haakondahl  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:50:12pm

...Hail to the Chief, he's the chief and he needs hail-ing...

247 outsidephilly  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 1:51:24pm

re: #198 reine.de.tout
Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm a soldiers' angel and personally acquainted with the founder. I'll be sure to share your comments with her.

This is the group that 1/2 cookbook proceeds will be donated to.

. . . , this is why I'm proud to be an American! Thank you, reine, for your generous heart!
God, please continue to bless our troops!

248 Suzette  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:11:48pm

God Bless all the troops who fight for freedom.
/God Bless the USA!

249 Kenneth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:24:12pm

Just an observation... remember the Iraq Study Group report of 2006? They recommended the US gov't push Israel to make concessions with the Palestinians and the Syrians because there would be no peace in Iraq until the "Palestinian issue" was resolved.

Well, here we are 2 years later. Peace is at hand in Iraq, but the Palis are still looking for new & innovative ways to kill Jews and ruin any hope for peace.

There's a lesson in that.

250 Kodysmom  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:43:05pm

Thank you---Thank you.......You accomplished this during a time in our Countries history that will always be known, during this time of war, as........America's SHAME. How the American people just turn away from a war that everyone thought was necessary and right including congress, to do. It's such a shame how the American's started forsaking there true believes and instead starting accepting the lies and deliberate misconception the msm was spewing; even though, these say people had a negative view of the msm and it accuracy of there reporting. I know the war was long, and maybe dragged out a Little longer then necessary, but this period of time, from this day forward can't possible be know as anything but America's SHAME. The Mora family.

251 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:47:19pm

Thank you for doing this, Zombie.

And an extra special thank you to our armed forces and our allies for making this possible.

252 leap  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:57:02pm

For all those who have died to give freedom for the rest of us, thank you.
For all those who fight still to bring freedom for those that don't have freedom yet, thank you. For those who will continue to fight a very noble cause, thank you. For those who support these efforts, thank you.
May the forgotten and discounted deaths be honored forever in a free Iraq.
AND a big thank you to the US military and her allies, specifically.

253 leap  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 2:57:56pm

And you too ZOMBIE, I thank you too.

254 Christene  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:11:43pm

THANK YOU to ALL our Soldiers.
We fired off a few fire works tonight!
WOOT!WOOT!WOOT!
God Bless You!

255 grandma  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:26:19pm

Thank you, our brave and wonderful service men and women for this victory. It is a victory. Victories don’t come cheap or fast, but this one has happened. The media would have had us all believe that this conflict was a quagmire, unjust, illegal, doomed, and too dear to justify the cost. I don’t hear them talking much at all about it now. Whatever conflicts are still occurring in Iraq are probably now not much worse than that which happens on a daily basis with the street gangs in our own inner cities, the gun-runners and drug dealers across our borders, and the meth labs and crack houses out there. When the Islamic sects decide to live in peace there, because their conflict is actually meaningless, maybe those good folks can get on with it, prosper, and make decent lives for themselves. I hope so. And that opportunity may not have been possible without our intervention.

Of course this conflict was expensive in American treasure and lives; all wars are. I have so much gratitude for those who served, gave up their lives, were terribly wounded, separated from their loved ones, but stuck with it. The media, the congresscritters, and the “experts” are very quick to make their judgements about what may happen if we don’t, for example, let them fix the economy, bail out the loser corporations, provide us with “affordable” health care, but none of them have revisited their judgements about what may have happened in Iraq, and elsewhere, had we not taken that conflict on.

I’d like to clue them in. The Husseins are gone, truly, truly dead. Saddam was a menace for decades. His son, Uday, was a psychopath of the worst degree, but the really scary one was Qusay. He was clever and diabolical and the heir to his father’s legacy. Those were the WMD’s that were found and destroyed. The politics in Iraq today may be shaky, but they don’t include the Husseins anymore. But those WMD’s would have really caused Iraq, the entire region and us more of a world of hurt.

For those of our anti-war, peace-loving folks, I’d like for those platitudes to be real, too. But that’s not how human nature among the evil works. Do not forget, when “fighting” for peace, that someone once said, “You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you”. Better to fight it, attain victory, rather than sitting around with your thumb up your nose singing Kumbaya. Your house burglar alarm will not protect you.

Thanks for listening to Grandma on this freezing Carolina night, and have a nice day.

256 Student of Objectivism  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 4:57:14pm

Victory in Iraq=Iraqis about to elect Islamic Fundamentalists into power, due to the needless sacrifice of American blood. This is no reason to celebrate.

But our servicemen and women don't make policy, so many thanks to them in any case.

257 SnakeSpit  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:04:03pm

Tons of praise for all our uniformed personnel. YOU DID IT! The war in Iraq is over, and we won! Happy VI day, November 22, 2008!

258 jcbunga  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:04:07pm

re: #256 Student of Objectivism

Victory in Iraq=Iraqis about to elect Islamic Fundamentalists into power, due to the needless sacrifice of American blood. This is no reason to celebrate.

But our servicemen and women don't make policy, so many thanks to them in any case.

With unbridled support like this who needs the media?

259 irongrampa  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:04:47pm

I guess "stay the course" and "stand them up so we can stand down" doesn't sound stupid anymore, does it, leftwits?

This vet wants to give a huge THANK YOU to ALL the men and women for their untiring effort and sacrifice.

Well done, people.

260 Student of Objectivism  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:11:53pm

re: #258 jcbunga

With unbridled support like this who needs the media?

That isn't an argument

261 pleaseandthankyou  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 5:29:12pm

This is a sad day for Al Qaeda, Iraqi insurgents, and American liberals, all of whom have bitter hatred for the United States and would have celebrated our loss in Iraq. Also, as I'm sure someone has commented above, this would not have happened if Obama, Pelosi, Reed were making the decisions. They would have lead our country right down the path to defeat and national humiliation, leaving Iraq a hotbed of terrorism and human atrocity. Thanks to the troops, And George W. Bush!

262 Truck Monkey  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 6:02:01pm

God bless our troops and pray for the democracy advocates in Iraq and all over the middle east. I will miss W. when he is out of office. I am sure that I am not the only one too.

263 right_in_canada  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:04:06pm

Just realized... (OT)

Today is also 45th anniversary of JFK assassination. Good news on a tragic milestone.

264 zombie  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 7:11:54pm

re: #256 Student of Objectivism

Victory in Iraq=Iraqis about to elect Islamic Fundamentalists into power, due to the needless sacrifice of American blood. This is no reason to celebrate.

Congress voted us into a war in Iraq.

Our troops successfully prosecuted that war.

Period.

Whether or not you agree with the concept of the war in the first place, or whether or not everything is peaches and ice cream and lollipops and unicorns in the Middle East (never has been, never will be), the truth of the matter is, this war has been won.

If the Iraqis do indeed elect fundamentalists into power (not so sure about that, but granting your argument), that actually only confirms my point: they will be electing their own new government democratically, and nonviolently, which is exactly what we strove to do: give them a democratic and valid governmental system.

Whether or not we like everyone who gets elected is beside the point.

Anyway, whoever they are, they can't be any worse than Saddam.

265 Photios  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 8:28:44pm

I never doubted that we would win if permitted to do so.

Interestingly, in addition to being the 45th anniversary of the assassination of JFK, this is the 25th anniversary of my enlistment into the Navy (now retired).

+Photi

266 FortunateSon  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 9:22:44pm

If I had a blog, I would be shouting this from my own small soapbox, but I don't (yet). Thanks Charles for doing your part. I've told as many people as I could about the "holiday" and, unsurprisingly, many of them have been shocked, shocked to learn of our success. Such a shame.

God Bless our troops!

267 uptight  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:51:30pm

It's totally despicable the their graphic does not even vaguely acknowledge the huge role played by Britain (and other countries) in securing victory in Iraq.

Frankly, fuck his "Victory in Iraq Day".

268 uptight  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:54:20pm

Zombie did this?

Jesus Christ, Zombie - I'd have expected more from you!

How about putting some Union Jacks and Aussie flags in there, for heavens sake. OUR MEN & WOMEN LOST THEIR LIVES TOO!

I shouldn't need to say this!

:-(

269 uptight  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:15:30am

European moonbats have a habit of dumping on America - so do American moonbats, for that matter. One of the biggest moonbat hissy concerns America's attitude that "other countries don't exist".

Shit like this makes it a hard accusation to deny. Just try to fucking THINK about it.

Everyone blames America first, but I love America and so do many Brits.

We see ourselves as your cousins. We are proud to be fighting alongside you in Iraq & Afghanistan. I am proud that we share the same values of freedom and democracy and the willingness to overthrow tyrants.

Reading the VI page and not seeing us even mentioned, makes me feel so damn sad and betrayed.

:-(

270 jcbunga  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:39:28am

re: #260 Student of Objectivism

That isn't an argument

Wasn't meant to be an argument. Your words make my point.

271 jcbunga  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:47:45am

re: #268 uptight

Zombie did this?

Jesus Christ, Zombie - I'd have expected more from you!

How about putting some Union Jacks and Aussie flags in there, for heavens sake. OUR MEN & WOMEN LOST THEIR LIVES TOO!

I shouldn't need to say this!

:-(

This isn't fair.

Point us to the Brit and Oz web pages that celebrate victory and let's compare the diversity and inclusiveness of who they honor. When did it become us Yanks' burden? Having said that, we all do!

Of course we respect all who served, but if we have to worry about who not to offend it will start reading like an Academy Awards acceptance speech.

Very whiny.

272 nuclear ninja  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 10:54:57am

Surely there is an approved psychological term for the condition described here:

More than five years after the invasion, I still come across people who say they don't know what victory in Iraq means. That's on purpose. Feigning ignorance allows them to deny the obvious political and military progress that has been made and continues to be made each day.

Cognitive Dissonance?

273 uptight  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:56:33pm

re: #271 jcbunga

This isn't fair.

Point us to the Brit and Oz web pages that celebrate victory and let's compare the diversity and inclusiveness of who they honor. When did it become us Yanks' burden? Having said that, we all do!

Of course we respect all who served, but if we have to worry about who not to offend it will start reading like an Academy Awards acceptance speech.

Very whiny.

You know - you're right.

Rather than moaning about the graphic giving the impression that it was only the Americans that liberated Iraq, I should actually do something to represent Britain's contribution. We did after all have 45,000 troops out there for the invasion - a disproportionately large commitment for a nation of our size.

So here - for all British bloggers - is an amended version of the banner. Hope Zombie doesn't mind too much.


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