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Open | Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:01:25 pm PST

Soldier: Quite a sight, wasn’t it Sir?

Col. Edwards: A sight I’d rather not be seeing.

Soldier: Are you worried about them, Sir?

Col. Edwards: Well, they must have a reason for their visits.

Soldier: Visits? Well that would indicate visitors! Are big guns the usual way of welcoming visitors?

Col. Edwards: We haven’t always fired at them.

Soldier: Oh?

Col. Edwards: For a time we tried to contact them by radio, but no response. Then they attacked a town. A small town, I’ll admit. But nevertheless a town of people. People who died.

Soldier: I never heard about that, Sir.

Col. Edwards: Well, it was covered up by the higher echelon. Take any fire, any earthquake, any major disaster, then wonder. Flying saucers, Captain, are still a rumour. Officially.

— Plan 9 from Outer Space

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1 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:03:10pm

I'm in the mood for pancakes.

2 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:03:57pm

OK, Charles, what's with the Plan 9 Open Threads?

3 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:04:08pm

As in International House of?

4 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:05:38pm

I like cheese blintzes.

5 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:06:06pm

re: #3 rawmuse

As in International House of?

re: #3 rawmuse

As in International House of?

Weird - pancakes?

6 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:07:30pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

I'm in the mood for pancakes.

Can't I just eat my waffle?
/

7 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:07:31pm

re: #5 Bobibutu

Weird - pancakes?

International House of Plan 9 from Outer Space.

8 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:07:31pm

Ok, what am I missing about lizard Nightwatch. Either he he a nut or I'm missing something here.

9 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:32pm

Just have some pancakes, Walter....everything will become clear then.

10 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:36pm

re: #7 rawmuse

International House of Plan 9 from Outer Space.

Do you also serve man?

11 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:37pm

When's the troll roast begin?

12 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:37pm

re: #3 rawmuse

Nah. The only one near me is across the street from the MOA, so quality control is a secondary consideration.

I sometimes like to seek out that mom 'n' pop place that makes the perfect pancake, but Perkins never fails.

That being said, IHOP was the site of my last opportunity to buy a couple soldiers breakfast, back in July. Folks, it only cost me a few bucks, and the appreciation was priceless. I encourage you to give it a try - even if it's a cup of coffee.

Tell the staff, "I would like to pay for that/those soldier's/soldiers' [fill in the blank]."

Just missed a soldier at Subway yesterday - five minutes. I was so disappointed.

13 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:39pm

re: #8 Walter L. Newton

Nightwatch has a rathered checkered history. I have been in more than one dust up with him. Says he is former USMC with a son in Iraq. Could be. I cut him a lot of slack.

14 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:09:48pm

Courtesy of Ace:

Change.gov Misuses Domain Intended for Government Bodies Only for Partisan Political Purposes

Blaster writes:

So the change.gov website is hosted by bluestatedigital.

From their website:

"We Are Your Online Partner. We'll help you use the BSD Online Tools to rally support for your cause, build a constituency, raise money online, or get your candidate elected."

This is a .gov website.

The Obama pre-administration is using this site to gather information for donors. These are the same guys who would have turned off the credit card validation rules.

All a bunch of Howard Dean campaign alumni.

I asked Blaster if .gov can only be used by government entities, or if there are exceptions. He writes back:

GSA is the registrar for .gov - here is the elgibility criteria:

"To preserve the integrity of the .gov name space, .gov domains are limited to United States government organizations at the federal, Native Sovereign Nation, state, and local level, and U.S. territories."

So, if change.gov is an offical government organization, we the taxpayers are paying Blue State Digital (which is explicitly partisan, and designed to raise funds and run campaigns) to run this site for us - was it sole sourced or competitlvely bid? I want to know, they are my tax dollars.

Alternatively, the campaign is paying for the site (this seems more likely to me) and thus they are misusing the .gov domain (of course, someone in government approved this), and they are using BSD to collect info - look all around the site, there are lots of "signup" forms all around. Lots of places where they are collecting addresses and demographic info - because that is what BSD is for.

As Instapundit might say, They told me if George Bush were elected the government would be turned into an expressly partisan campaigning organization to promote one party rule, and they were right!

15 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:23pm

re: #12 Noam Sayin'

Good on ya, dude.

16 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:42pm

I'm on the mood...

17 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:10:43pm

re: #10 Bobibutu

Do you also serve man?

Don't start that stuff again, Kanamit!

18 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:11:59pm

re: #16 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

PINF- DAMN!

I'm in the mood...

-

19 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:28pm

re: #13 rawmuse

Nightwatch has a rathered checkered history. I have been in more than one dust up with him. Says he is former USMC with a son in Iraq. Could be. I cut him a lot of slack.

I see. Well, Nightwatch was doing, what ever that is that he does on the last thread, and I posted a "I can do that answer" and clipped and pasted a long rant by a really crazy once famous musician friend of mine who is pushing 70 now.

Well, that set him off.

20 Bobibutu  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:35pm

re: #17 gmsc

Don't start that stuff again, Kanamit!

Yeah - we went thru that last night.

Pardons ;-)

21 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:45pm

re: #4 DesertSage

I like cheese blintzes.

First time I ever went to NYC, I sought out a street vendor selling blintzes. I had no idea what they were, but I knew I had to have one.

22 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:12:51pm

re: #18 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

PINF- DAMN!

-

In the Mood, one Rawmuse would like a little better?

23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:13:13pm

re: #18 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

PINF- DAMN!

-

Geez Loise...PIMF! DAMN! Whatever. Anyone have an orange?

24 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:14:34pm

In The Mood

25 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:14:41pm

re: #23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Geez Loise...PIMF! DAMN! Whatever. Anyone have an orange?

PIMF again. I should just give it up...Geez Louise.

26 Salem  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:15:14pm

Eat pancakes, or be eaten!

27 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:15:25pm

Listening to Vince Guaraldi... such smooth 6th and maj7th chords... wish I had a bottle of smooth Scotch to go with it...

28 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:15:36pm

re: #22 Desert Dog

In the Mood, one Rawmuse would like a little better?

Damn Dog....you beat me to it!

29 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:15:42pm

re: #15 rawmuse

Good on ya, dude.

I love doing it. Soldiers appreciate the gesture so much. You simply can't put a price on it.

30 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:16:40pm

re: #22 Desert Dog

In the Mood, one Rawmuse would like a little better?

I think I'll put that beer back in the fridge...

31 Syrah  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:16:58pm

A little Meiko Kaji, and then off to bed.

Goodnight all.

32 Buck  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:17:14pm

Karma: 165 with 2272 comments posted.

That does not look good at all.

33 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:17:20pm

re: #29 Noam Sayin'

The last couple of times I have tried that it was in airports, and the waitress said someone else already picked it up.

34 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:18:02pm

re: #25 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LMAO!

Lay down, Ozark. You're drunk.

35 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:18:10pm

Okay, how 'bout a A String of Pearls?

36 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:18:18pm

re: #23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Geez Loise...PIMF! DAMN! Whatever. Anyone have an orange?

Now keep that over on the last thread please ;)

37 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:19:06pm

re: #33 rawmuse

The last couple of times I have tried that it was in airports, and the waitress said someone else already picked it up.

That happened to me at the airport in Houston a few weeks ago. A bunch of soldiers hanging out and I went up and told the bartender to give me their tab. He told me I was the 3rd person to come up and tell him that. I feel good about this country when I see that kinda thing.

38 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:21:11pm

Video: Dean Martin and Foster Brooks

39 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:21:17pm

This is why we need the second amendment.

Youtube Video

40 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:21:30pm

re: #34 Noam Sayin'

LMAO!

Lay down, Ozark. You're drunk.

I only had 2 beers, ossifer, I swear!

41 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:22:56pm

... I just found a production error, hoping it's in the Ogg Vorbis rip rather than the CD...

42 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:24:11pm

re: #36 Walter L. Newton

Now keep that over on the last thread please ;)

Must be caused by sitting here listening to Boz Skaggs.

43 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:24:44pm

re: #39 DesertSage

This is why we need the second amendment.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Captain Kirk don't mess around, eh?

44 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:25:40pm

re: #11 Dustyvet

When's the troll roast begin?

/we blew through the weekend allotment of trolls last night

45 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:26:24pm

re: #40 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I only had 2 beers, ossifer, I swear!

Sure, buddy. That's all anyone ever has. Get in the car.

46 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:26:40pm

I didn't win the Powerball lottery again. I want my $1 back!

47 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:27:09pm

re: #44 Killian Bundy

/we blew through the weekend allotment of trolls last night

Do you want to beat me up. Seems like I upset some seniors tonight. I'm game. Else I'm going to bed. We have a 2:00pm matinee tomorrow.

48 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:28:12pm

re: #40 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I only had 2 beers, ossifer, I swear!

I believe you, son.

49 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:28:41pm

re: #43 Desert Dog

Captain Kirk don't mess around, eh?

That's going to leave a mark eh!

50 victor_yugo  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:30:14pm

re: #43 Desert Dog

Captain Kirk don't mess around, eh?

Unlike that pansy-ass Picard.

But keep 7of9 away from Kirk!

51 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:31:26pm

re: #50 victor_yugo

Unlike that pansy-ass Picard.

But keep 7of9 away from Kirk!

Hey - Picard is one of the greatest French starship captains with a British accent!

52 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:31:37pm

I'm sure Rawmuse is pleased with the Glenn Miller links, but I'm almost positive he'll prefer something that swings just a bit more.

With a break for a Neil Pert drum solo.

53 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:32:43pm

re: #45 Noam Sayin'

Sure, buddy. That's all anyone ever has. Get in the car.

Actually, my brother is a cop. When he hears that he asks "How big were those 2 beers?". He busted one guy who was driving down the road with a can of Budweiser on the roof of his car. When he pulled him over, there were 4 other cans in the 12 pack in addition to the one between his legs. Another guy tried to get out of it by saying he was celebrating his birthday. He wrote "Happy Birthday" on the citation.

54 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:32:51pm

re: #44 Killian Bundy

/we blew through the weekend allotment of trolls last night

It's feast or famine around here sometimes. I thought for sure we'd pick up some snacks tonight.

55 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:33:16pm

re: #47 Walter L. Newton

Do you want to beat me up.

/can you start commenting like a raving lunatic?

56 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:34:16pm

"Do You Feel Lucky?"


Youtube Video

57 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:34:19pm

re: #55 Killian Bundy

/can you start commenting like a raving lunatic?

Yea, I'll just clip and paste Nightwatch's posts on the last thread.

58 rawmuse  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:34:41pm

re: #52 Noam Sayin'

Great stuff! thanks for posting.

59 Cheechako  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:34:47pm

Looks like more strange events coming out from Ted Stevens trial. Too bad he lost the election. He might just win the appeal.

From the Anchorage Daily News:

"A key prosecution witness in the trial of Sen. Ted Stevens has told the trial judge that some of his testimony wasn't true and that he suspects prosecutors left him in a room with evidence and grand jury transcripts so he could surreptitiously refresh his memory about 6-year-old events.

The witness is David Anderson, a nephew and once-trusted employee of former Veco chief executive Bill Allen, the government's star witness and a convicted briber. Anderson made his comments to U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan of Washington, D.C., in a letter dated Nov. 15 and made public Friday, the latest twist in a case with no shortage of unusual events."

More info at:
Anchorage Daily News

60 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:35:05pm

re: #48 Desert Dog

I believe you, son.

his parents must be proud!

61 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:35:59pm

I ate too many pot brownies. I think I'm dying.

Liveleak Video

62 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:37:15pm

Beer trivia question: Which actor, known primarily for a beer-drinking character, appeared briefly in Superman with Christopher Reeve?

63 Dustyvet  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:37:37pm

"Go Ahead. Make My Day"


Youtube Video

64 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:39:06pm

re: #62 gmsc

Beer trivia question: Which actor, known primarily for a beer-drinking character, appeared briefly in Superman with Christopher Reeve?

John Ratzenberger

65 calcajun  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:39:22pm

You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid! -Eros.

66 srb1976  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:39:48pm

Ok folks, it's 1:30ish here and Her Royal Stoutness will be demanding sustenance in just a few short hours. Y'all have fun!

67 calcajun  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:39:53pm

Because all you of Earth are idiots. - Eros

68 Killian Bundy  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:40:05pm

Lucianne's Ninth Annual Thanksgiving Recipe Thread is in full swing.

/just in case you're not hungry enough

69 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:40:13pm

re: #53 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ouch.

Last summer I passed a cop on my way to work, roughly 6:45 am; gave him the up-nod on my way by. He nodded back.

About a mile down the road I realized that I just passed a cop at 10 mph over the speed limit. To this day I wonder if the cop, having given me the up-nod, was maybe just too embarrassed to then pull me over.

70 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:41:34pm

re: #52 Noam Sayin'

I'm sure Rawmuse is pleased with the Glenn Miller links, but I'm almost positive he'll prefer something that swings just a bit more.

With a break for a Neil Pert drum solo.

That's great stuff. I love Rush. I posted another of his solos a few months back and got links top all these 20 and 30-something imposters. The difference is Peart can play from any era and sound like he grew up listening to it.
Excellent, Noam!

71 calcajun  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:42:02pm

In my land, women are for advancing the race, not for fighting man's battles.
-Erosre: #69 Noam Sayin'

Ouch.

Last summer I passed a cop on my way to work, roughly 6:45 am; gave him the up-nod on my way by. He nodded back.

About a mile down the road I realized that I just passed a cop at 10 mph over the speed limit. To this day I wonder if the cop, having given me the up-nod, was maybe just too embarrassed to then pull me over.

He musta been feelin' charitable.

72 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:42:05pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

John Ratzenberger

Very good! Especially considering you only see him in short scenes tracking missiles for the military.

73 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:42:49pm

re: #72 gmsc

I like his show "Made in America" Cool stuff

74 nnorb  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:43:03pm

re: #22 Desert Dog

In the Mood, one Rawmuse would like a little better?

That was GREAT! I loved when the violinist played a couple of notes and then wiped their brows in unison. CLASSIC! Thanks!

Norb

75 calcajun  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:43:04pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

John Ratzenberger

Who also got a German bullet between the eyes in "A Bridge Too Far".

76 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:43:44pm

re: #69 Noam Sayin'

Ouch.

Last summer I passed a cop on my way to work, roughly 6:45 am; gave him the up-nod on my way by. He nodded back.

About a mile down the road I realized that I just passed a cop at 10 mph over the speed limit. To this day I wonder if the cop, having given me the up-nod, was maybe just too embarrassed to then pull me over.

I ALWAYS acknowledge a cop as I pass him/her. Just a wave or whatever.

77 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:44:09pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

John Ratzenberger

Still the funniest Cheers episode, ever!

78 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:44:25pm

re: #75 calcajun

Who also got a German bullet between the eyes in "A Bridge Too Far".

But I thought I saw him on "Cheers." That bullet would have killed him.

79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:44:49pm

re: #70 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That's great stuff. I love Rush. I posted another of his solos a few months back and got links top all these 20 and 30-something imposters. The difference is Peart can play from any era and sound like he grew up listening to it.
Excellent, Noam!

PIMF- links to, not top.

80 Moe Katz  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:45:19pm

re: #76 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I ALWAYS acknowledge a cop as I pass him/her. Just a wave or whatever.

I smile at them if I pass through a radar trap.

81 calcajun  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:46:12pm

re: #77 Desert Dog

Still the funniest Cheers episode, ever!

Cliff in the electric behavior modification belt; "Dance, mailman!"

82 calcajun  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:46:52pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

But I thought I saw him on "Cheers." That bullet would have killed him.

"Bridge" was in '77. He got better.

83 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:47:37pm

re: #82 calcajun

"Bridge" was in '77. He got better.

Whew, thank goodness! Close call. Acting can be dangerous.

84 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:48:11pm

Deep, Deep Trouble

85 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:48:22pm

re: #61 DesertSage

I ate too many pot brownies. I think I'm dying.
[Link: www.liveleak.com...]

Clearly, the dude's never been high in his life. Firstly, one doesn't make pot brownies with pot. One uses hash oil.

Secondly... um, wait. What?

86 gmsc  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:49:14pm

re: #81 calcajun

Cliff in the electric behavior modification belt; "Dance, mailman!"

My favorites are the "Harry The Hat" episodes with Harry Anderson.

87 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:50:48pm

re: #77 Desert Dog

Still the funniest Cheers episode, ever!

I hadn't seen that in years! Thanks!

88 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:53:03pm

re: #61 DesertSage

I am posting this, just because of our acquaintance. Wishing all good things.

Youtube Video

Always one of my favorite songs anyway.

89 Desert Dog  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:54:13pm

Good night all! Mrs. Desert Dog is flashing the lights

90 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:55:35pm

re: #85 Noam Sayin'

Clearly, the dude's never been high in his life. Firstly, one doesn't make pot brownies with pot. One uses hash oil.

Secondly... um, wait. What?

Here you go, Noam. You've been asking for this for months...I've finally capitulated.

Youtube Video

I'm going to sleep now.

91 calcajun  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:57:07pm

Nite, gang.

92 DesertSage  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:57:14pm

re: #88 Pvt Bin Jammin

I am posting this, just because of our acquaintance. Wishing all good things.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Always one of my favorite songs anyway.

Is he the one who's ill?

I know she's had more then one husband.

93 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Nov 22, 2008 11:59:08pm

re: #92 DesertSage

yep. I feel sad.

94 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:00:34am

re: #88 Pvt Bin Jammin

I once partied with John Kay in a hotel in Detroit Lakes, MN in the early 80s. He invited a few people on over - because he was after this smokin' hot blond I went to school with, a few years older than I.

Heh™

The smokin' hot blond woke up in my arms on a secluded beach - elsewhere.

Then we went and had pancakes.

95 rawmuse  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:02:11am

I am off to bed, hopefully to dream of the International House of Pancakes from Plan 9. Niters, y'all.

96 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:03:34am

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

Might be the gal we know but I love her anyway.

97 gmsc  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:04:36am

re: #95 rawmuse

I am off to bed, hopefully to dream of the International House of Pancakes from Plan 9. Niters, y'all.

Good night!

98 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:07:05am

Lively crowd tonight.

99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:08:48am

You wonder why Circuit City is about to bite the dust?

Toshiba 40" LCD 1080P HDTV just $1099.98 before $150 savings- $949.88

Polaroid 42" LCD 1080p HDTV at Wal-Mart - $598.00

Capitalism rocks!

100 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:08:51am

re: #96 Pvt Bin Jammin

Might be the gal we know but I love her anyway.

Yeah, well. Nobody believed the story, even though I didn't say a word about it. Word got around that I "made out" with... let's call her, "Olivia." In high school, every guy I knew worshiped her, including me - she was stunning. I just thought she needed an excuse to get away from the creepy, old musician. Next thing you know...

Pancakes!

101 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:09:55am

Okay, since this seems to be a soliloquy, who would pay to subscribe to an enhanced LGF with additional features such as an internal e-mail system for members? Just floating an idea here.

102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:10:45am

re: #98 Moe Katz

Lively crowd tonight.

WOO-HOO!

103 gmsc  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:11:00am

re: #99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You wonder why Circuit City is about to bite the dust?

Toshiba 40" LCD 1080P HDTV just $1099.98 before $150 savings- $949.88

Polaroid 42" LCD 1080p HDTV at Wal-Mart - $598.00

Capitalism rocks!

Enjoy it while it lasts!
;)

104 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:11:13am

re: #102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

WOO-HOO!

So whaddya think of my idea?

105 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:12:15am

Your own platform?

106 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:13:04am

re: #105 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Your own platform?

No. I'm thinking of it as an option for LGF. Charles doesn't know yet :)
I was just toying with the idea.

107 redc1c4  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:13:29am

re: #101 Moe Katz

Okay, since this seems to be a soliloquy, who would pay to subscribe to an enhanced LGF with additional features such as an internal e-mail system for members? Just floating an idea here.

yo mama.....

here to help!

108 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:13:51am

re: #104 Moe Katz

So whaddya think of my idea?

I don't know. Why don't you click that little box that says "Show email" and we'll respond to you off-blog.

Wait a minute. Isn't that what you're looking for?

;)

109 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:14:07am

re: #100 Noam Sayin'

LOL
It's the original wife that we know. She is "born to be wild" and I guess that's why I love her. Sounds like he was pretty "out there".

110 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:14:09am

re: #101 Moe Katz

Okay, since this seems to be a soliloquy, who would pay to subscribe to an enhanced LGF with additional features such as an internal e-mail system for members? Just floating an idea here.

You took over the thread! Too cool!

111 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:14:13am

re: #99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You wonder why Circuit City is about to bite the dust?

Toshiba 40" LCD 1080P HDTV just $1099.98 before $150 savings- $949.88

Polaroid 42" LCD 1080p HDTV at Wal-Mart - $598.00

Capitalism rocks!

You get what you pay for. Polaroid, when did they start making TVs?

/after much research, I found Samsung to offer the best bang for the buck

112 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:14:32am

re: #105 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Your own platform?

Thing is, it's a really unique format here, part blog and part chat room, and an online community. I wonder if it couldn't be developed into a paid subscription service with even more features.

113 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:15:04am

re: #101 Moe Katz

I'm kiddin' you, Moe.

114 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:15:36am

re: #108 Noam Sayin'

I don't know. Why don't you click that little box that says "Show email" and we'll respond to you off-blog.

Wait a minute. Isn't that what you're looking for?

;)

No.

115 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:15:46am

re: #98 Moe Katz

Lively crowd tonight.

/what, you didn't get enough excitement and down dings last night?

116 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:16:20am

re: #109 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm sorry. I don't think we know the same people, other than Sage. And I've never met him personally. Were you confusing me with someone else?

117 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:16:26am

re: #113 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm kiddin' you, Moe.

Well 'scuse me. Seriously, would you pay as much as you're paying now for those porn sites you belong to?

118 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:16:55am

re: #115 Killian Bundy

/what, you didn't get enough excitement and down dings last night?

I'm a controversy junky :)

119 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:17:00am

re: #111 Killian Bundy

You get what you pay for. Polaroid, when did they start making TVs?

/after much research, I found Samsung to offer the best bang for the buck

Which one?

120 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:20:19am

re: #111 Killian Bundy

I'd love to have a nice, big, wide-screen television. But there's no way in hell I'm paying any more than $300 for one. TV is fine, and I love educational channels. I even called up two movies on free-per-view/pay-per-view just tonight.

I simply don't need that much attention to video. I got blogs to surf.

121 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:21:12am

re: #117 Moe Katz

Well 'scuse me. Seriously, would you pay as much as you're paying now for those porn sites you belong to?

Porn? I thought all of my subscriptions were private! Those A-holes! I'll never give them another stolen credit card number! The nerve of those people!

122 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:21:50am

re: #116 Noam Sayin'

You will have to ask Sage about that one.

123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:22:51am

re: #120 Noam Sayin'

I'd love to have a nice, big, wide-screen television. But there's no way in hell I'm paying any more than $300 for one. TV is fine, and I love educational channels. I even called up two movies on free-per-view/pay-per-view just tonight.

I simply don't need that much attention to video. I got blogs to surf.

Crap, I don't even have cable.

124 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:23:06am

re: #121 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Porn? I thought all of my subscriptions were private! Those A-holes! I'll never give them another stolen credit card number! The nerve of those people!

Privacy ain't what it used to be.

125 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:23:35am

re: #122 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm positive it's not the "gal we know."

Am I missing something. I'm a little drunk, so forgive me if I'm being obtuse.

126 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:26:03am

re: #124 Moe Katz

Privacy ain't what it used to be.

But Barack Obama will change all of that!

/I'm trying not to laugh as I type that.

127 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:26:06am

re: #121 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Porn? I thought all of my subscriptions were private! Those A-holes! I'll never give them another stolen credit card number! The nerve of those people!

How about a combined political blog and porn site?

128 JeremyR  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:26:37am

re: #101 Moe Katz

Okay, since this seems to be a soliloquy, who would pay to subscribe to an enhanced LGF with additional features such as an internal e-mail system for members? Just floating an idea here.

If Charles gets it any more enhanced, Vista will croak, and all us PC folk will be back running DOS.

129 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:27:15am

re: #125 Noam Sayin'

I'm positive it's not the "gal we know."

Am I missing something. I'm a little drunk, so forgive me if I'm being obtuse.

So I'm not the only one drinking. Good.

130 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:28:58am

re: #128 JeremyR

If Charles gets it any more enhanced, Vista will croak, and all us PC folk will be back running DOS.

You could spread the site out on more pages.

131 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:29:13am

re: #125 Noam Sayin'

I'm sorry, because I'm a little drunk too but Sage and I know John Kay's first wife. We saw her tonight. Kay is not that well but he is getting better.

132 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:29:23am

re: #127 Moe Katz

How about a combined political blog and porn site?

HuffPo...DailyKos...Already exist.

133 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:29:26am

re: #119 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Which one?

Samsung LN-S4096D and LN-T3253H.

Very good TVs.

/although they change the models frequently

134 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:29:35am

re: #126 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

But Barack Obama will change all of that!

/I'm trying not to laugh as I type that.

Touché

135 JeremyR  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:29:47am

re: #127 Moe Katz

How about a combined political blog and porn site?

Please, no links to picks of Hillary nude.

Janet Reno either.

136 redc1c4  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:30:55am

re: #131 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm sorry, because I'm a little drunk too but Sage and I know John Kay's first wife. We saw her tonight. Kay is not that well but he is getting better.

then by all means give the man my regards.......

if that will get his motor running. %-)

/white smoke

137 JeremyR  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:31:28am

re: #130 Moe Katz

You could spread the site out on more pages.

Vista has already choked twice on me tonight. Time to repair my old XP computer.

138 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:31:33am

Folks, I seem to remember from way back that the term y'all are throwing about seems to bring search engines descending on LGF in unflattering results. Back in '04 and '05, I remember lizards recommending that if you need to mention that idiom, spell it differently, such is pron, or better yet, pr0n, just to keep the elicit hits to a minimum.

I'm sure as time has passed, that Charles has figured out a way to foil those search bots, but just the same, maybe lay off the pr0n references, huh?

139 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:31:33am

re: #132 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

HuffPo...DailyKos...Already exist.

Whatever floats yer boat.

140 redc1c4  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:32:00am

re: #135 JeremyR

Please, no links to picks of Hillary nude.

Janet Reno either.

how about the two together with Crisco?

/white smoke

141 JeremyR  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:32:08am

Good night all.

142 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:32:52am

re: #136 redc1c4

LOL You are fun, Red C, Always like to see you here.

143 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:32:58am

re: #137 JeremyR

Vista has already choked twice on me tonight. Time to repair my old XP computer.

I love XP on my modified, ultra-low noise PIII 1.4 GHz box. Quieter than a laptop.

144 JeremyR  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:33:28am

re: #140 redc1c4

how about the two together with Crisco?

/white smoke

Actually I wouldn't mind seeing them mud wrassle..... In a quicksand swamp full of hungery gators.

145 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:33:29am

re: #140 redc1c4

how about the two together with Crisco?

/white smoke

I think you need to be registered as a sex offender.

146 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:35:04am

re: #135 JeremyR

Please, no links to picks of Hillary nude.

Janet Reno either.

I'm surprised, ahem, "she", hasn't been offered a cabinet post yet. Maybe Secretary of Dykes and Levees?

147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:36:37am

re: #139 Moe Katz

Whatever floats yer boat.

Or sinks your sub.
/

148 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:37:13am

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Or sinks your sub.
/

Or your domme.

149 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:40:02am

re: #148 Moe Katz

Or your domme.

Domme Arigato!

150 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:41:27am

re: #131 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm sorry, because I'm a little drunk too but Sage and I know John Kay's first wife. We saw her tonight. Kay is not that well but he is getting better.

Oh, no. The story I told originates back in the early 80s. I could have, and perhaps should have, told the story about John and I shooting the shit for quite a while about all sorts of things. I thought he was a genuinely wonderful guy.

Of course, the story of me waking up on the beach with the beautiful blond, who all my friends wanted to nail, sells papers, so I went with that one.

I wish him well. Didn't know you two were close to him. Please pardon the "creepy musician" reference. It was a color commentary that I felt helped tell the side of the girl.

... who bought me pancakes in the morning.

Perkins Inc. should really send Charles, like, a thousand bucks for the mentions I've given them tonight.

151 Outrider  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:41:49am

little slow eh?

152 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:43:01am

I am being summoned by She Who Must Be Obeyed.

'Night all.

153 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:43:52am

G'night, Moe.

I've always wanted to say that.

154 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:46:24am

re: #152 Moe Katz

I am being summoned by She Who Must Be Obeyed.

'Night all.

Me too. I knew I should have deflated her earlier.

155 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:46:29am

That, and "Hey Moe!"

156 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:47:51am
157 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:48:49am

re: #155 Noam Sayin'

That, and "Hey Moe!"

/where you going with that gun in you hand?

158 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:49:25am

re: #150 Noam Sayin'

We don't know John either but we know the mother of his children and one grandchild. Our friend is a "wild child" but I love her. She is trying to keep him alive, and I admire her for that. They have been divorced for years.

159 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:50:29am
160 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:53:00am

re: #154 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Me too. I knew I should have deflated her earlier.

What? Is she getting all uptight on you?

Perhaps she has an inflated sense of herself.

Let her down easy.

You wouldn't want a situation like that to blow up on you at this time of night.

Sorry for the puns. I felt I had to make up for the early part of this thread. I was stumped.

161 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:55:47am

re: #157 Killian Bundy

/where you going with that gun in you hand?

I'm goin' down to shoot my ol' lady. You know I caught her messin' around with another man.

162 redc1c4  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:56:40am

re: #145 Moe Katz

I think you need to be registered as a sex offender.

X Offender.....

163 Erik The Red  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:57:41am

Morning Lizards. Slow night. Could anyone tell me if there is a cheaper online store than newegg.

164 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:58:47am

re: #161 Noam Sayin'

OMG I don't even have to click on the link to remember that song. It's totally my era.

Nite, Noam.
Nite to all the lizards.

165 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:01:06am

re: #158 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm sorry to hear that. He's an American legend. I'm pleased to have met him.

166 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:01:44am

re: #163 Erik The Red

Morning Lizards. Slow night. Could anyone tell me if there is a cheaper online store than newegg.

It's always pretty tough to beat Amazon for anything.

/if they don't sell it, it's crap and you don't need it anyway

167 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:04:12am

re: #165 Noam Sayin'

I think he might just be picking it up an going on. She is really helping him.
'nite Noam.

168 Erik The Red  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:11:32am

re: #166 Killian Bundy

It's always pretty tough to beat Amazon for anything.

/if they don't sell it, it's crap and you don't need it anyway

Thanks Killian I am in S Africa. Have found what I am looking for. $45.00 cheaper at Amazon.

169 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:12:35am

re: #166 Killian Bundy

I've had such trouble with Amazon, lately. Orders getting screwed up; a contribution to Charles among them. This summer I had a horrible experience with a vendor who didn't refund my purchase. Plus the credit-card arrangement that was supposed to credit me $50 or so ended up costing me about $65 in fees. I wanted to give Charles a handsome, little bump earlier this year and ran into all kinds of trouble with it.

And the Paypal option is totally compromised for me, now, too.

I'm thinking of emailing a vintner in Cali to send a couple bucks to Charles for my mentions here. I tried that with a brewery in New Ulm and they turned their nose up at it.

Won't mention that beer again.

170 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:15:26am

re: #167 Pvt Bin Jammin

That's good to hear. G'night PBJ.

G'night, all.

171 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:16:43am

re: #170 Noam Sayin'

That's good to hear. G'night PBJ.

G'night, all.

Nite Noam.

Hey -- where's littleoldlady?

172 Crux Australis  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:17:12am

Hilarious email I received today

Happy Anniversary Australia,

Hello my loyal constituents,

Can I just say, thank you for celebrating with me the first anniversary of my Government.

And you know something? As I travel the world, I passionately believe you got it right when you voted for me, for an education revolution, for new directions, new leadership, fresh ideas, fresh thinking, and several of my other cliches.

What are some of my favourite achievements? The bottom line is this:

Hosting the 2020 Summit, starring Cate and 999 other "average" Australians – I found it so rewarding that I took decisive action and announced at least 168 more reviews, committees and inquiries.

On the question of taxpayer-funded travel, I'm lapping it up. In just 12 months I've spent the equivalent of almost two months overseas!

Fresh ideas like our unlimited bank guarantee, and telling those who consequently can't access their non-bank savings to "go to Centrelink".*

My challenge to you is this: visit my memorabilia website at [Link: www.RUDDSHOP.com...] (where the buck really does stop with me) and show your heart-felt appreciation for 12 long months of Labor.

Your Dear Leader,

Kevin

* Centrelink = social security

173 Erik The Red  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:18:30am

re: #169 Noam Sayin'

I have bought plenty from newegg and have only had excellent service.

174 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:24:16am

re: #172 Crux Australis

My way of joking is to tell the truth. It is the funniest joke in the world.
~George Bernard Shaw

175 redc1c4  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:24:29am

re: #171 Fearless Fred

Nite Noam.

Hey -- where's littleoldlady?

smoking fruitcup in the corner......

/sad story

176 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:28:59am

re: #169 Noam Sayin'

Maybe I'm just blessed, but I buy almost everything from Amazon, including $4000 worth of TVs and treadmills, and I've never had a problem with their order fulfillment or delivery. No shipping charges, no leaving the house, and no sales tax (legal disclaimer: you're still supposed to report the equivalent of the sales tax on your tax returns), what's not to like?

/to me, it's the best thing since sliced bread, hell, they even sell food if you're that lazy

177 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:32:51am

re: #175 redc1c4

What happened?

178 little blessing  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:33:09am

re: #175 redc1c4

Smoking fruitcup!?

/What did I miss?

179 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:34:09am

re: #168 Erik The Red

Thanks Killian I am in S Africa. Have found what I am looking for. $45.00 cheaper at Amazon.

/make sure you read their shipping policies for your item(s), some things the won't ship outside the U.S.

180 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:34:50am

re: #176 Killian Bundy

/to me, it's the best thing since sliced bread, hell, they even sell food if you're that lazy

... fruitcup?

181 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:35:10am

re: #178 little blessing

Smoking fruitcup!?

/What did I miss?

Fruit Cup with brandy...poof fruit cup flambe...:)

182 Erik The Red  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:35:56am

re: #179 Killian Bundy

/make sure you read their shipping policies for your item(s), some things the won't ship outside the U.S.

Thanks I have a US shipping and billing address. I have a family member repost to me here. Still cheaper than buying here.

183 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:36:06am

re: #181 Dustyvet

Fruit Cup with brandy...poof fruit cup flambe...:)

Is she in Puebla with Miguel?

184 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:36:24am

re: #180 Fearless Fred

... fruitcup?

/you're going to have to try harder

185 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:38:55am

Veh iz mir...

What did I do now?!

186 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:39:03am

re: #184 Killian Bundy

/you're going to have to try harder

Are you taking over?

When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty.
~George Bernard Shaw

187 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:40:53am

re: #185 littleoldlady

Veh iz mir...

What did I do now?!

No --- what did we do?

Silence is the most perfect expression of scorn.
~George Bernard Shaw

188 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:43:00am

Fred! :-)

Did you swallow a Shaw quote machine?

Fred! :-)

...and WHERE have you been, young man?!

189 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:45:12am

re: #186 Fearless Fred

Are you taking over?

No, my sleep patterns aren't that consistent.

/I thought we were playing a rousing game of stump Amazon

190 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:45:45am

re: #188 littleoldlady

Fred! :-)

Did you swallow a Shaw quote machine?

Fred! :-)

...and WHERE have you been, young man?!

There are no secrets better kept than the secrets that everybody guesses.
~George Bernard Shaw

191 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:47:14am

re: #189 Killian Bundy

No, my sleep patterns aren't that consistent.

/I thought we were playing a rousing game of stump Amazon

When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth.
~George Bernard Shaw

192 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:47:32am

Aha. So I'm free to speculate?

/turns on vivid imagination...

193 Nightwatch  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:47:52am

Did I hear something about fruit-cups?

194 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:48:29am

Vatican forgives Lennon

42 years later, the Catholic Church forgives the Beatles singer's infamous Jesus remark.


Talk about holding a grudge!

195 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:49:02am

re: #185 littleoldlady

Veh iz mir...

What did I do now?!

/if your a hungry foodie who cooks, check out my spinoff link above, it's Lucianne's annual cornucopia of recipes thread

196 redc1c4  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:49:43am

re: #194 Dustyvet

Vatican forgives Lennon

42 years later, the Catholic Church forgives the Beatles singer's infamous Jesus remark.


Talk about holding a grudge!

that ain't shit......

/pikers

197 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:50:37am

re: #195 Killian Bundy

I saw it yesterday when you linked it. Thank you, Killian! :-)

/haven't yet come up with my Thanksgiving Experiment recipe...

198 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:52:39am

re: #197 littleoldlady

I saw it yesterday when you linked it. Thank you, Killian! :-)

/haven't yet come up with my Thanksgiving Experiment recipe...

/just remember, it keeps going all weekend, probably up to four threads by now

199 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:53:01am

re: #192 littleoldlady

Aha. So I'm free to speculate?

/turns on vivid imagination...

I am in Puebla presently .... going door to door, seeking the Great One.

200 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:55:18am

re: #199 Fearless Fred

Obama's in Washington, Fred.

/or are you just trying to score that mythical mammoth Fuller Brush sale...?

;-)

201 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:55:43am

re: #195 Killian Bundy

/if your a hungry foodie who cooks, check out my spinoff link above, it's Lucianne's annual cornucopia of recipes thread

Cornucopian ----
one who holds any of a variety of views that are not in the ordinary sense simply optimistic about progress and confident in technological innovation but see a limitlessly abundant future for humanity. Names for the ideas of cornucopians include cornucopian theory, the cornucopian thesis, or cornucopian idealism.

202 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:56:40am

...where's Puebla, anyway?

203 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:57:59am

re: #200 littleoldlady

Obama's in Washington, Fred.

/or are you just trying to score that mythical mammoth Fuller Brush sale...?

;-)

Lol ... hhehehe . . .
// --- you must know Miguel's place of residence is/was Puebla? . . .

204 Nightwatch  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:59:02am

re: #194 Dustyvet

Friend,

based on the last election cycle..... these things are there for MSM fluff.

Stay on this site for fun AND facts as Charles doles out.

MSM? UBER-FLUFF (Read ;slant to Their opinion) not news

Can you say MARX?.......IST?

205 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 1:59:19am

re: #202 littleoldlady

...where's Puebla, anyway?

"down south, mexico way"
~ Jimi

206 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

207 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:00:41am

re: #203 Fearless Fred

Lol ... hhehehe . . .
// --- you must know Miguel's place of residence is/was Puebla? . . .

NO, I DIDN'T!

Are you really there? Are you having any luck?

208 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:00:56am

re: #204 Nightwatch

Friend,

based on the last election cycle..... these things are there for MSM fluff.

Stay on this site for fun AND facts as Charles doles out.

MSM? UBER-FLUFF (Read ;slant to Their opinion) not news

Can you say MARX?.......IST?

Sure Harpo, Chico, Grocho, Zeppo, and Gummo...:)

209 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:02:08am

DustyVet! :-)

Nightwatch! :-)

little blessing! :-) ?

red! :-)

210 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:02:12am

re: #202 littleoldlady

...where's Puebla, anyway?

I slept on the floor in the train station there one night.

211 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:02:59am

re: #210 Fearless Fred

But have you been drunk there?

212 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:02:59am

re: #207 littleoldlady

I am not there now .... no, sorry. I do wish I were.

213 little blessing  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:03:35am

re: #209 littleoldlady

Present, Madam!

214 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:03:36am

Save the last dance fruitcup for me.

215 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:03:38am

re: #201 Fearless Fred

Cornucopian ----
one who holds any of a variety of views that are not in the ordinary sense simply optimistic about progress and confident in technological innovation but see a limitlessly abundant future for humanity. Names for the ideas of cornucopians include cornucopian theory, the cornucopian thesis, or cornucopian idealism.

/gee, I always just thought cornucopia was a Bugles shaped object that spilled out food, prominently on display in church during the Thanksgiving holiday period

216 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:04:59am

re: #211 littleoldlady

No. The popular drink that evening was bean juice from a baby bottle. Lots of moms w/ kids around me on the floor that evening.

217 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:05:21am

For one glorious moment I thought we'd finally have news of Miguel.

/hopes dashed. :-( :-( :-(

218 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:05:50am

Fenway! :-)

219 Nightwatch  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:06:58am

re: #208 Dustyvet


TUUU-CHHEEEE

Ouch dude ,

(going for the 45's) and extra clips ;])

220 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:07:05am

Morning, LoL! How about them Bruins ruining Patrick Roy Tribute Night in Montreal?

221 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:07:07am

re: #213 little blessing

Present, Madam!

I slept "funny" last night and now I can't move my head from side to side or up and down. Wasn't sure I saw you. ;-)

/at least I slept some
//some advice for you - don't get old!

222 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:07:45am

re: #220 Fenway_Nation

Yeah! How's about that!?

/...what? who?

223 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:09:11am

re: #215 Killian Bundy

/gee, I always just thought cornucopia was a Bugles shaped object that spilled out food, prominently on display in church during the Thanksgiving holiday period

Julian Simon is a very big hero of mine. The wager.

224 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:11:08am

re: #222 littleoldlady

Patrick Roy- Even some people who don't follow the NHL could probably identify him as the Colorado goalie during their Stanley Cup runs in the late 90s, but not everyone seems to realize he started out with Montreal and was the netminder on the last Canadiens team to win the cup before a very acrimonious departure from Montreal a few years later.

225 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:12:17am

re: #215 Killian Bundy

/gee, I always just thought cornucopia was a Bugles shaped object that spilled out food, prominently on display in church during the Thanksgiving holiday period

Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute

226 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:13:34am

re: #209 littleoldlady

DustyVet! :-)

Nightwatch! :-)

little blessing! :-) ?

red! :-)

((((((((Lady))))))))))) waving...

227 rancher  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:15:02am

re: #135 JeremyR How bout Gov Napolitano azresistance.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/napo...
Rustler

228 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:15:02am

re: #206 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Ahhh . . .
At last ! Thank you littleoldlady!

229 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:18:01am

re: #224 Fenway_Nation

After the Phillies (and given the Flyers and Eagles this year - blech) I don't have to pay much attention to sports.

/saving me from making copious amounts of taco dip... ;-)

230 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:18:09am

Oh...and...full disclosure, I already had a big ting of fruitcup today- more like fruit tray. Grapes, sliced apples, cubed melons and some pineapple chunks. I got alot for my $$$, but it wasn't made with the same joy and heart as yours, LoL.

231 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:18:13am

Good morning all, quick drive by possibly. Things have been a little mixed up here at work so I may not get many opportunities to post for the rest of the morning. Thanks for the timely fruitcup littleoldlady. :)

232 Karagush  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:18:34am

hi rancher!

233 Nightwatch  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:19:02am

re: #221 littleoldlady

Thing about getting old, you remember what this country "used" to be like,

before we sold our children for gold........

My-OH-My......look at the time......that we don't have!

(Sing it) "Bye, bye Miss American Pie, Drove my Chevy to the Levy but the Levy was dry....and good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye sayin "This will be the day that I die."

234 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:21:00am

re: #231 BlueCanuck

Good morning all, quick drive by possibly. Things have been a little mixed up here at work so I may not get many opportunities to post for the rest of the morning. Thanks for the timely fruitcup littleoldlady. :)

. . . timely ?

235 Karagush  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:21:06am

Hell I am not old and i am tellin my kid about how America "used to be."
She asked me today (she is 20) "what was Carter like?"
I had to tell her.
Saddest conversation I've had since i told her her cat had cancer.

236 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:22:13am

BlueCanuck! :-)

/whoosh! ;-)

237 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:23:07am

Fenway,

That's cheating!

238 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:24:23am

re: #233 Nightwatch

re: #235 Karagush

My daughter is 20 too, but she's a history wonk and tells ME what the Carter years were like.

/I have NO IDEA where I was at the time ... ;-)

239 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:24:41am

re: #223 Fearless Fred

Julian Simon is a very big hero of mine. The wager.

I'm not exactly sure how we got from you asking me whether Amazon sells fruit cup and a discussion of worldwide economic collapse, but I'll bite.

/what do you suggest?

240 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:33:46am

re: #234 Fearless Fred

Oh so' she was three seconds off of two o'clock. In my books that's timely.

241 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:36:05am

re: #239 Killian Bundy

I'm not exactly sure how we got from you asking me whether Amazon sells fruit cup and a discussion of worldwide economic collapse, but I'll bite.

/what do you suggest?

I suggest this ... The PRC Forum - Julian Simon.

242 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:38:06am

re: #225 Fearless Fred

Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute

/we're light years away from weaning ourselves off the need for base metals, which actually, I think, puts me in your camp

243 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:39:41am

Better late than early!

/and here's why

244 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:40:25am

re: #240 BlueCanuck

Oooops ...... I was mixed up. Sorry.

245 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:42:30am

re: #244 Fearless Fred

No problem. I just tend to fearlessly defend our provider that's all. ;)

246 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:44:49am

re: #243 littleoldlady

Better late than early!

/and here's why

about ten seconds after I started that, I was getting a message on the wall from the apartment next door...God I like paper thin walls...:)

247 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:46:32am

re: #241 Fearless Fred

I suggest this ... The PRC Forum - Julian Simon.

You think I'm going to watch almost three hours of this, you're crazy. That said base metals are a finite resource on this planet.

/he's banking on the Singularity

248 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:47:27am

Henry VIII had six wives, and a car...it was a tudor....

249 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:49:15am

re: #246 Dustyvet

Ah, pardon me. I was off doing the "Tevye Wiggle"

/which I do SO MUCH BETTER than Tevye, since I have things that go...wiggle.

Yeah, between the music and the wiggling dancing I woke the dog! ;-)

250 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:49:36am

re: #247 Killian Bundy

/almost one hours of this

251 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:53:06am

re: #249 littleoldlady

Ah, pardon me. I was off doing the "Tevye Wiggle"

/which I do SO MUCH BETTER than Tevye, since I have things that go...wiggle.

Yeah, between the music and the wiggling dancing I woke the dog! ;-)

I used to dance to "If I was a rich man" on the coffee table...:)

252 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:54:29am

re: #245 BlueCanuck

No problem. I just tend to fearlessly defend our provider that's all. ;)

God bless you for that.

253 aussiemagpie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:55:38am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

It's a cold Sunday evening here in Sydney, and Thredbo in the Snowy Mountains had 20cms of snow - In November!

Had a laugh about this article.....

Aussie blokes are Hollywood's new leading men

Turbulent times call for tough guys and Australian heroes are leading the charge in Hollywood, snapping up the parts requiring real men over their US counterparts.

With preview audiences clamouring to see Hugh Jackman playing the rugged Drover in Australia, Eric Bana, Russell Crowe, Sam Worthington, Anthony LaPaglia and the maddest and baddest of them all, Mel Gibson, are catching the attention of Hollywood executives all desperate to cast real Aussie blokes in their next big blockbuster


and

Their ascent comes at a time when Hollywood's once golden boys appear trapped in arrested development.

Crowe and co simply bring a commanding gravitas to their roles, says Variety's leading columnist Anne Thompson.

"America seems to have boy-men movie stars that don't have the danger and sheer masculinity that Australian tough guys have,'' she says.

"The hottest, most in-demand actors right now are Russell Crowe and Hugh Jackman. They have what everyone is chasing.''

Showbiz bible Variety acts like a cultural Geiger counter for public tastes and according to Thompson it has gone off the grid for Australian-bred actors

As I glance over to the couch where my Aussie male is reclining, I can guarantee it's not Hugh or Russell there, just Mr Bald with hands resting on his well padded belly :-)

254 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:55:47am

re: #241 Fearless Fred

I suggest this ... The PRC Forum - Julian Simon.

Had he ever studied Communist or Muslim economies?

/they're a real drag on his world economic model

255 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 2:59:01am

re: #251 Dustyvet

Ma! How come Dusty's allowed to dance on the furniture?!

256 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:01:49am

re: #247 Killian Bundy

You think I'm going to watch almost three hours of this, you're crazy. That said base metals are a finite resource on this planet.

/he's banking on the Singularity

I do not believe that.
...If you're serious, I'll read more tomorrow (I am reading what you sent) . . . the human aspect is paramount . . .
and that is heavy stuff for me right now, sorry. Falling asleep now - in a bit.

257 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:02:57am

re: #255 littleoldlady

Ma! How come Dusty's allowed to dance on the furniture?!

He owns the coffee table...the recliner is owned by the cat...

258 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:03:23am

aussie! :-)

I am a recent - but avid - fan of Hugh Jackman!

259 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:04:14am

re: #254 Killian Bundy

Had he ever studied Communist or Muslim economies?

/they're a real drag on his world economic model

yes .... he said "with sufficient economic and political freedom" .... thats me paraphrasing ...... just read more about him ...... he was amazing

260 Dustyvet  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:06:43am

re: #259 Fearless Fred

yes .... he said "with sufficient economic and political freedom" .... thats me paraphrasing ...... just read more about him ...... he was amazing

I paraphrased once, had to use the reserve chute...

261 little blessing  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:08:04am

Off to bed!

G'day everyone!

Good Night AussieMagpie!

262 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:08:24am

'Night, little blessing! :-)

263 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:10:26am

re: #260 Dustyvet

I paraphrased once, had to use the reserve chute...

Last time I paraphrased, I tried to breed them. Now that was a disaster of biblical proportions.

264 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:10:30am

re: #256 Fearless Fred

I do not believe that.
...If you're serious, I'll read more tomorrow (I am reading what you sent) . . . the human aspect is paramount . . .
and that is heavy stuff for me right now, sorry. Falling asleep now - in a bit.

To paraphrae, he's arguing that every new human on Earth, on average, eventually contributes more to the general global welfare than it withdraws.

/to me, that's just naively ignoring the the current global socio-economic reality of the state of the world's population

265 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:10:58am

Night little blessing, good to see you if only briefly will you head out the door.

266 Fearless Fred  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:11:47am

re: #247 Killian Bundy

You think I'm going to watch almost three hours of this, you're crazy. That said base metals are a finite resource on this planet.

/he's banking on the Singularity

I'm crazy. Let's watch it together. But not tonight, sorry --- climbing back into my rack now. Sweet dreams pumpkins!
. . . Good night Miguelito!

267 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:14:02am

Bye, Fred. Great to see you!

/hoping Miguel heard you - wherever he is :-(

268 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:14:18am

re: #259 Fearless Fred

yes .... he said "with sufficient economic and political freedom" .... thats me paraphrasing ...... just read more about him ...... he was amazing

/okay, he's an optimist, I admire that, but he's not Picard saying "make it so"

269 aussiemagpie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:16:55am

re: #258 littleoldlady

aussie! :-)

I am a recent - but avid - fan of Hugh Jackman!

Hi {Littleoldlady}

He's got a fabulous voice, and I'm a fan too :-)

270 aussiemagpie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:18:13am

re: #261 little blessing

Off to bed!

G'day everyone!

Good Night AussieMagpie!

Goodnight little blessing, and as it's bedsock weather in Sydney, I'm assuming it's the same in Melbourne :-)

271 Crux Australis  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:21:09am

re: #258 littleoldlady

aussie! :-)

I am a recent - but avid - fan of Hugh Jackman!

I am too, but only in a heterosexual man-love kind of way. He's a Sydneysider like I am as well.

272 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:24:22am

Speaking of precious metals....wait....were we just speaking of precious metals?

Anywhoo- I spent the better part of a whole afternoon meandering the central district of an unnamed Mexican metropolitan area this past week. I was searching for the silver Libertad series bullion coins (Mexico's answer to the Krugerrand or Maple Leaf coin). Factoring in the sell price and exchange rate I gleaned from a few different bank websites, they figured to be a very good deal. One slight problem. None of the banks I went to said they had any Libertad coins available (although one bank had one of these Mexican state coins available, but at a significant markup). Initially, I thought it might've been a case of 'Lets not sell this gringo anything', but that didn't quite jibe, since one branch informed me they actually had gold available (don't have enough $$$ to be purchasing gold bullion up front).

But after reading this translated article from October a little later in the week, my fruitless search seemed to make a little more sense in that context. Seems the Mexican treasury is fearing a run on the Peso and limiting production of these coins, plus some banks are willing to buy back silver bullion at a much higher price.

273 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:25:21am

re: #269 aussiemagpie

My little brother sings - not as well as I do, he'd be the first to admit ;-) - but now that he's married-with-kids it's what he does to get out of the house (as opposed to bar hopping...like in the good ole days). He lives in Manhattan so there's a lot of opportunity. He takes lessons and sings at little recital-type concerts. Last year year he was here practicing for one of those concerts, asking me to critique his version of Oh, What a Beautiful Morning, and told me he was shooting for the "Hugh Jackman sound".

Well, good luck with that! :-)

But that's when I "discovered" Jackman.

274 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:26:25am

re: #271 Crux Australis

Yeah, it also doesn't hurt that he's a joy to look at. ;-)

275 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:33:12am

/Nothing kills a thread like yammering on and on about Mexican coinage.

276 littleoldlady  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:34:21am

... or gorgeous Australian singers?

I have to go anyway :-(

Good day, ALL!™

277 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:35:27am

Bye littleoldlady. Tomorrow I should be a bit more verbose. Less crazy around here too.

278 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:35:51am

You leave and I finish this thread off.

/you think I'm bluffing!?

279 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:36:25am

re: #268 Killian Bundy

/okay, he's an optimist, I admire that, but he's not Picard saying "make it so"

"The more resources we use, the more resources we have."

Yes, I'm going to watch the full hour.

/FCX is good, but they can't dig to China

280 aussiemagpie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:37:29am

re: #273 littleoldlady

We really liked him in a TV show - "Corelli "- he's a prisoner, Corelli is the prison psychologist, who ended up as his real life wife

This was quite a few years ago

281 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:38:43am

re: #278 Fenway_Nation

Yes, yes we do. After all if you don't settle down, I will sick a couple of para phrases on you.

282 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:39:33am

re: #279 Killian Bundy

Small world. I have FCX in my (make-believe) portfolio.

283 Karridine  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:43:17am

re: #175 redc1c4

Just spewed coffee all over my monitor!

That was a crass and rude remark, and it set me rolling on the floor, LMAO! :D

284 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:44:26am

re: #281 BlueCanuck


I fear no paraphrase after the various trollbys mobtrolls sock mobys troll puppets tough-guy keyboard commandos that have appeared in opposition to us the past few nights.

285 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:44:58am

re: #282 Fenway_Nation

Small world. I have FCX in my (make-believe) portfolio.

/way beyond incredibly cheap, but you still can't pull the trigger

286 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:47:16am

re: #284 Fenway_Nation

Ah, but I am a fellow lizard. I KNOW your weaknesses. ;)

/so how about those Bruins *evil grin*

287 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:48:12am

re: #285 Killian Bundy

I remember analysts saying Freeport-McMoran was a buy if it dipped under $70 per share this summer.

288 Karridine  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:49:19am

re: #264 Killian Bundy

To paraphrase, he's arguing that every new human on Earth, on average, eventually contributes more to the general global welfare than it withdraws.

/to me, that's just naively ignoring the the current global socio-economic reality of the state of the world's population

I can understand WHY you believe in this way, Killian, but you base your belief on the underlying belief that "resources in this world are limited", yes?

When, in truth, the Earth's resources are limitless as far as we humans are concerned... WE determine what is a resource. We determine when and how we'll recycle, rebuild, re-invent...

We are limited ONLY by our beliefs, and some of us believe Earth has limited resources... when they're, in fact, virtually infinite.

289 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:49:41am

re: #286 BlueCanuck

/so how about those Bruins *evil grin*

Beat the Canadiens at home on Hockey Night in Canada Is that evil in english and french?

290 wahabicorridor  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:50:13am

good morning everyone! ah, Christmas recipes. Here's one for the beloved fruitcake.

Christmas Whiskey Cake

1 cup butter

2 cups sugar

6 large eggs

2 teaspoons baking powder

3 cups flour, sifted

1/2 t. salt

1 cup bourbon

1 pound pecans, chopped

3 cups white raisins (or use candied fruit)

1 t. nutmeg

AND

~ a very large bottle of bourbon whiskey ~

First, sample the whiskey to check for quality.

Assemble all of the ingredients. Check the whiskey again.

To be sure it is of the highest quality, pour one level cup and drink.

Repeat this step.

Turn on the electric mixer and beat one cup of butter in a large

fluffy bowl. Add one teaspoon of sugar and cream until beat.

Make sure the whiskey is still okay... try another cup.

Turn off the mixer. Beat six leggs and add to the bowl,

then chunk in the cup of dried flut. Mix on the tuner.

Throw in two quarts of flour. Gradually pour in the cow.

Add 2 dried anything.

If the fried druit gets struck in the beaters, pry it loose with

a drewscriver. Sample the whiskey and check it again for tonsistency.

Next, sift two cups of salt. Or something. Who cares?


Check the whiskey again.

Now sift the nutmeg and strain your nuts. Add one table.

And the spoon. Of whiskee. Or something. Whatever you find left.

Grease the oven.

Turn the crake pan to 350 degrees. Don't forget to beat off the turner.

Pour the oven into the batter. Throw the bowl out the window.

Lick the batter off the floor.

Bake 300 minutes at 50 degrees.

Finish the blobble of whishy and flow to bed.

~

291 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:50:44am

re: #287 Fenway_Nation

I remember analysts saying Freeport-McMoran was a buy if it dipped under $70 per share this summer.

It was.

/go figure the panic versus the reality

292 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:51:46am

re: #289 Fenway_Nation

Nah, just evil in french. If I know my Make Belief's Fans, they were probably cheering on the Bruins.

/sad really, can't do it themselves.

293 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:52:40am

re: #194 Dustyvet

Vatican forgives Lennon

42 years later, the Catholic Church forgives the Beatles singer's infamous Jesus remark.


Talk about holding a grudge!

Not in the class of 42 years, but his Popishness prolly took the example of then-gov. Huckabee.

Huck pardons Kieth Richards.

Richards was heard to comment, "Damn, does this mean we have to go back?"

294 Karridine  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:54:44am

re: #264 Killian Bundy

For example, what was once seen by humans as a stinking, sticky black CRAP that had to be scraped off one's feet or boots... is now a 'resource' we call petroleum.

Not only do we use it to find more of it, we use it to find more ways of finding it, distributing it and using it more frugally... a given amount today (one gallon) can do X work today and 1.2X tomorrow...

Or sand... beautiful beach, eh? But WE humans turn sand into wafers for chips, and those chips we use to ponder ways of ever-more efficiently using the other resources we have and will soon have...

Unlimited... or "Resources only limited by OUR creativity", Killian

295 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:58:02am

re: #288 Karridine

When, in truth, the Earth's resources are limitless as far as we humans are concerned... WE determine what is a resource. We determine when and how we'll recycle, rebuild, re-invent...

We are limited ONLY by our beliefs, and some of us believe Earth has limited resources... when they're, in fact, virtually infinite.

/well, when you manage to wrangle all the world's population onto the single purpose happy trail, you let me know

296 Karridine  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:00:08am

re: #295 Killian Bundy

Don't need ALL of them, just the 9-10% that act as the humanity-equivalent of the Human Nervous System... leaders and DOERS, KB...

/NOW I'll click yr linkie :D

297 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:00:16am

re: #292 BlueCanuck

Nah, just evil in french. If I know my Make Belief's Fans, they were probably cheering on the Bruins.

/sad really, can't do it themselves.

I remember when the new Boston Garden was named the Fleet Center, only to have the title sponsor, Fleet Bank, taken over by Bank of America, who wasn't interested in retaining the naming rights. So the Garden was one of those rare arenas that actually had no corporate name/sponsor for awhile. Apparently they had some deal where you could name the Garden for a day in exchange for a sizeable donation to charity. Seemed like a good idea until some wag from New York ponied up the money so it could be called The Derek Jeter Center for a day.

So now it's simply the TD Banknorth Center, which seems nondescript at first. However, I'm not sure how many people realize that the 'TD' stands for 'Toronto-Dominion', and considering that the Celtics and Bruins regularly host home games against the Raptors or Maple Leafs, I can't help but think of it as a sort of subtle, backhanded 'Jeter Center' redux.

298 Karridine  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:01:18am

re: #295 Killian Bundy

Like herding lizards?

RofL....

299 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:05:00am

re: #293 razorbacker

A short little rant afores I go.

Note in the above link that Richards was pardoned, and his rights restored, excepting the right to keep and bear arms.

That right is denied convicted felons.

Now having yourself a little bit of pot is a misdemeanor. If you also have a rolling paper in which to roll said pot, that paper is an insturment of crime. Having an insturment of crime is a felony.

So that rolling paper can lose you your 2nd amendment right.

You oughta look at what all is a felony in today's America.

There's plenty of convicted felons wandering around stripped of their 2nd amendment rights for nonviolent offences. Like nonpayment of child support (not to be construed as support for those who don't pay child support).

I'm just saying, is all.

300 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:08:49am

See y'all later. I'm out and about.

*Special to BlueCanuck. Later, Hosers, I'm oot and aboot, ay*

301 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:09:18am

re: #297 Fenway_Nation

Oooooh that is evil. I like it.

302 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:09:58am

re: #300 razorbacker

See y'all later. I'm out and about.

*Special to BlueCanuck. Later, Hosers, I'm oot and aboot, ay*

Tanks, and it's, eh?

303 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:13:50am

re: #296 Karridine

Don't need ALL of them, just the 9-10% that act as the humanity-equivalent of the Human Nervous System... leaders and DOERS, KB

/Afghanistan, China, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, evil NGOs like Hamas and Hezzbolah, North Korea, Pakistan, Russia, out of control Somali Pirates, Syria, Venezuela, and at least 35 other countries we currently conduct covert operations in, the world is hardly with the program

304 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:15:33am

re: #302 BlueCanuck

Tanks, and it's, eh?

So I've seen it written. Which, of course simply compounds the error. 'eh' is what you say with your hand cupped behind your ear to indicate that you need it repeated. But louder.

Watching CBC it is clear that what my fine Canadian friends are trying to say is 'Hay' with the 'H' dropped.

But I stand in solidarity with my Canadian brothers. Death to Mark Steyn!

///oh hell. If I don't sarc that one a**holes worldwide will think Charles has gone over to the Yeehawdies.

Anyhow, see y'all later.

305 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:27:00am

re: #99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You wonder why Circuit City is about to bite the dust?

Crappy selection?
Sales force that mobs you like you're walking onto a used car lot?
Trying to sell you their "extended warranty" with everything?

306 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:32:15am

re: #305 Dar ul Harb

I wonder what will happen to The Source (formerly Radio Shack up here.)

307 WhiteRasta  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:40:01am

re: #306 BlueCanuck

I got one of those internet email chain letters. They said not to buy anyone a gift certificate from The Source. (Along with a bunch of others..)

308 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:47:07am

re: #306 BlueCanuck

I wonder what will happen to The Source (formerly Radio Shack up here.)

At least here, Radio Shack has practically turned into a cell phone store, with some electronics parts, cables, and adapters in the back. They're doing all right, I'd think, since they're generally located in smaller shopping centers where their overhead costs are lower, and the margins on most of their little gizmos are enormous (e.g. $4.50 for an adapter that they get manufactured in China for probably $0.05).

But if you find you really need a 2 to 1 RCA phono jack F/F adapter, or a 25' HDMI cable all the sudden, without waiting on shipping, it's nice that you can get one, even at convenience store prices.

309 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:53:52am

re: #308 Dar ul Harb

At least here, Radio Shack has practically turned into a cell phone store, with some electronics parts, cables, and adapters in the back. They're doing all right, I'd think, since they're generally located in smaller shopping centers where their overhead costs are lower, and the margins on most of their little gizmos are enormous (e.g. $4.50 for an adapter that they get manufactured in China for probably $0.05).

But if you find you really need a 2 to 1 RCA phono jack F/F adapter, or a 25' HDMI cable all the sudden, without waiting on shipping, it's nice that you can get one, even at convenience store prices.

/there's only one place you can kind of reliably get a 1/8" cable splitter, took some effort

310 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:59:06am

Arrr, morning mates. When all else fails there is always Radio shack!

311 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:59:20am

The one that I really miss is CompUSA.

I don't know exactly what killed them, except that they seemed to want to become "more than just a computer store," and were always rearranging their floor layout to where it was hard to find things.

Probably they lost to the Internet (Systemax, parent company of Tigerdirect.com bought them out), and the fact that unsold merchandise in the computer business rapidly depreciates.

312 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:00:41am

Good morning!

In spite of car companies' problems, new ideas are in the making.

/I wonder where one would put their groceries after shopping?

313 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:06:51am

CompUSA was never very close to me geographically, for some reason none was ever built in my county, or convenient, my new fav is Fryes, but they are located where the old CompUSA was at so I only go to them like once a year. Picked up a 500 GB USB drive for 90 dollars at Best buy yesterday!

314 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:12:36am

Lizard Prayer List 11/23/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Thanksgivings
OldLineTexan: grandson Griffin’s successful open-heart surgery and recovery
Dolphin: friend Stan. He had several complications and infections (open heart surgery) but is now well on his way to recovery.
Pigtown Water Dog: "work project" and my animals.
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
turn: basal cell carcinoma (cancer) completely removed
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
realwest: recovered from dental issues
vxhush: husband recovering well from rotator cuff surgery
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
Yochanan: d-i-l (ronite bas golda) undergoing surgery.
Dublic(CA)Dude - serious health issues
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Steve C: Baby Katie’s heart surgery
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
doriangrey: friend Byran's brother be life flighted back to the US and that his life be saved
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
RememberSekhmet: moderate depression; burned out at my job and looking for a new one
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: waiting for results of tests for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
/cont’d

315 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:12:56am

Lizard Prayer List, cont’d:
Family, friend, and life situations:
laZardo: strength of purpose
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom moving
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
mama winger: family (especially stepfather) dealing with stepbrother’s suicide.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Newsjunkie: loss of her dog
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Ausberger’s (mild autism)
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: 7-month-old foster daughter who went to life with extended family; best result for another foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Our country going forward
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

316 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:13:01am

Thanks Goddess!

317 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:14:01am

re: #313 loflyer

CompUSA was never very close to me geographically, for some reason none was ever built in my county, or convenient, my new fav is Fryes, but they are located where the old CompUSA was at so I only go to them like once a year. Picked up a 500 GB USB drive for 90 dollars at Best buy yesterday!

/you may have payed too much, taking into account travel expense and sales tax

318 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:14:34am

Here is an interesting story on China from Strategy Page, Apparently things are not as portrayed during the Olympics...

319 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:16:58am

re: #317 Killian Bundy

For hard drives, the lowest retail prices I've seen around here are at Office Depot.
1 TB SATA2 for $159.99

320 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:17:21am

Good Morning LGF.
The fix is in wth the pirates for our friends the Saudis.
This story stinks to high heaven. Anyone giving any odds that the pirates and the Islamist rebels are in cahoots with each other and with the Saudis?

321 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:17:54am

Haar, no chance mate! It was like 500 yards out of 'me way coming home from work yesterday, and gas is down to 1.72 a gallon around here. Two months ago it was 4 bucks a gallon and it was costing me a 100 bucks to fill up the tank. The only good thing to come out of the current recession....

322 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:18:42am

re: #319 Dar ul Harb

Of course, that's internal, without the USB interface. If I want an external drive, I just put one of the internals into a case...

323 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:20:27am

re: #320 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
The fix is in wth the pirates for our friends the Saudis.
This story stinks to high heaven. Anyone giving any odds that the pirates and the Islamist rebels are in cahoots with each other and with the Saudis?

Black-five is also starting up some ops against pirates under several commercial contracts. Don't have any details as to what they are up to mates.

324 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:21:53am

re: #319 Dar ul Harb

For hard drives, the lowest retail prices I've seen around here are at Office Depot.
1 TB SATA2 for $159.99

/that's not the same as an external 500 GB USB drive and way more than you'll probably use in your lifetime anyway

325 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:23:04am

re: #322 Dar ul Harb

Of course, that's internal, without the USB interface. If I want an external drive, I just put one of the internals into a case...

/touche!

326 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:23:10am

re: #322 Dar ul Harb

Of course, that's internal, without the USB interface. If I want an external drive, I just put one of the internals into a case...

I see no reason to get fancy, I just go out and buy the things as I need 'em. I like the external USB drives because they are easy to move when you buy a new computer. No fuss, no muss! Just plug and pray!

/things are getting real cheap with the present economy

327 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:23:39am

re: #324 Killian Bundy

/that's not the same as an external 500 GB USB drive and way more than you'll probably use in your lifetime anyway

Depends upon if you're recording HDTV...

328 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:24:29am

re: #326 loflyer

Yeah, including my pay cheque. :p

329 akak  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:29:30am
Berlin - King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has offered political asylum to Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar, 49, German news magazine Der Spiegel reported Saturday, quoting government sources in Kabul.

The report said the approach was made at the request of Afghan President Hamid Karzai and outgoing US president George W Bush.

huh? If it were the starting point of bombs landing in S.A by NATO I could understand. Reconciliation is not possible.

330 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:31:26am

The mediacenter PC presently has 2 TB of storage for video and backup of the other systems, and is attached to a Gigabit Ethernet network for blasting video files around Chez Harb.

I'm crazy that way.

331 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:32:05am

I am not happy about my paycheck wither and am working to find a new and better paying employer. I expect it will take six months to a year with the current economy. 'me employer will undoubtedly be offering early retirement options soon because of the lower revenues generated by taxes and some very poor judgments on where the money come from and the lack of representation of the folks who are generating the cash. The rich white 10 percent of the northern county seceded from the county months ago. Who knows, they could be my next employer. Got an offer from Africa last week, and some Police services folks want 'me ass too. Not going to happen mates!

332 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:32:34am

re: #322 Dar ul Harb

Of course, that's internal, without the USB interface. If I want an external drive, I just put one of the internals into a case...

/EMC Retrospect and an external drive

333 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:32:38am

re: #314 goddessoftheclassroom

Hi there goddess! :)

If you're still here, could you please add my sister to the list?

She's been up and down with her health with various prognoses from various doctors - and now has corneal ulcers - with the newest prognosis being Sjogren's Syndrome.

She's a teacher, having gone back to college in her late 40's to get her Bachelor's, and then on to get her Master's. We're so proud of her, and she, like you, is an excellent teacher!

Thanks so much for your kind work on the list.

334 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:33:13am

re: #327 Dar ul Harb

Depends upon if you're recording HDTV...

/that's what DVRs are for

335 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:33:36am

re: #324 Killian Bundy

/that's not the same as an external 500 GB USB drive and way more than you'll probably use in your lifetime anyway

ROTFLMAO.... yea, that's what the genius who designed the first computer motherboard said about the 640k of on board systems ram.....

336 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:33:43am

re: #330 Dar ul Harb

The mediacenter PC presently has 2 TB of storage for video and backup of the other systems, and is attached to a Gigabit Ethernet network for blasting video files around Chez Harb.

I'm crazy that way.

You would not believe the amount of bandwidth available over fiber. With two strands of fiber and 70 grand I can push 400 gbs 70 killometers.

337 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:36:28am

re: #330 Dar ul Harb

The mediacenter PC presently has 2 TB of storage for video and backup of the other systems, and is attached to a Gigabit Ethernet network for blasting video files around Chez Harb.

I'm crazy that way.

/hording is a sickness, if you haven't watched it in three months, it needs to go

338 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:36:36am

re: #329 akak

Berlin - King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has offered political asylum to Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar, 49, German news magazine Der Spiegel reported Saturday, quoting government sources in Kabul.

The report said the approach was made at the request of Afghan President Hamid Karzai and outgoing US president George W Bush.

Really?
/Kyle Broflovski, South Park

339 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:36:38am

re: #333 gettinby

Hi there goddess! :)

If you're still here, could you please add my sister to the list?

She's been up and down with her health with various prognoses from various doctors - and now has corneal ulcers - with the newest prognosis being Sjogren's Syndrome.

She's a teacher, having gone back to college in her late 40's to get her Bachelor's, and then on to get her Master's. We're so proud of her, and she, like you, is an excellent teacher!

Thanks so much for your kind work on the list.

Done. I hope she's feeling better soon.

340 yochanan  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:36:39am

re: #192 littleoldlady

what up L.O.L.?

341 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:37:41am

re: #339 goddessoftheclassroom

Done. I hope she's feeling better soon.

Good morning goddess..... (goddess)....MHAW

342 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:38:47am

re: #335 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... yea, that's what the genius who designed the first computer motherboard said about the 640k of on board systems ram.....

Think about it.

/how much crap can you download that you'll never watch?

343 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:38:53am

re: #340 yochanan

what up L.O.L.?

I think she has left the scene mate! Haven't seen her since I came on board at 0800 Eastern time. However if she is in the vicinity, WAFFLES up!

344 akak  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:39:18am

Kyle Broflovski?

345 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:39:55am

re: #341 doriangrey

Good morning goddess..... (goddess)....MHAW

MWAH!

346 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:40:40am

re: #345 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

Haaar!

347 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:43:15am

Here is an amusing video featuring on of my favorite songs from 'me youth. Sqeeze, Tempted.

348 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:43:47am

re: #339 goddessoftheclassroom

Done. I hope she's feeling better soon.

Thanks.

349 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:45:16am

re: #347 loflyer

Here is an amusing video featuring on of my favorite songs from 'me youth. Sqeeze, Tempted.

/PIMF!

350 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:47:08am

re: #342 Killian Bundy

Think about it.

/how much crap can you download that you'll never watch?

True enough, but think about the size difference between Windows 3.1 and windows Vista. Windows 3.1 was what 5 M/B and Vista is what 2G/b? I have a version of Linux (Fedora 4) that's 4G/B.... That doesn't include any supplementary applications. We use Soildworks at work and I have files that are 10 G/B.............

351 BlueCanuck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:47:16am

Morning {goddess}. Hope you are enjoying your weekend. How did the play go?

/would have said hi earlier, but my intertubes burped or something.

352 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:47:56am

re: #342 Killian Bundy

Think about it.

/how much crap can you download that you'll never watch?

As much as possible if it'll also sort, load, wash, dry, fold and put away, so that I can have the time to watch the crap that I've downloaded. :)

/As well as dust, vacuum, wash the car, scrub floors, and wash windows.
//Oh yeah, and give a great massage!

353 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:50:25am

re: #351 BlueCanuck

Morning {goddess}. Hope you are enjoying your weekend. How did the play go?

/would have said hi earlier, but my intertubes burped or something.

{BlueCanuck}

It went really well, thanks! Friday I had some unpleasantness with a parent who thought I was being too hard on his child and called me a "selfish, self-centered asshole," but I know I did nothing more that insist that the kid behave himself, so it's all good now.

354 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:53:28am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanuck}

It went really well, thanks! Friday I had some unpleasantness with a parent who thought I was being too hard on his child and called me a "selfish, self-centered asshole," but I know I did nothing more that insist that the kid behave himself, so it's all good now.

They will get over it Goddess, You have a lot more tact than I, I call it as I see 'em and parents don't like that one bit...

355 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 5:56:56am

re: #354 loflyer

They will get over it Goddess, You have a lot more tact than I, I call it as I see 'em and parents don't like that one bit...

I envy you that. I want to learn to laugh at those who insult me, but my feelings do get easily hurt by unjust attacks.

The dad didn't let the kid come to the performance last night (he was one the tech crew), but we coped easily without him. The saddest thing is that it's the kid who's going to suffer because his dad won't let him work with me again.

356 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:01:08am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanuck}

It went really well, thanks! Friday I had some unpleasantness with a parent who thought I was being too hard on his child and called me a "selfish, self-centered asshole," but I know I did nothing more that insist that the kid behave himself, so it's all good now.

Wonder what he would have said if you responded with "I am NOT selfish and self-centered!" LOL

I'm in residential property management. If a day goes by where someone doesn't insult me, I worry.

357 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:02:24am

re: #355 goddessoftheclassroom

I envy you that. I want to learn to laugh at those who insult me, but my feelings do get easily hurt by unjust attacks.

The dad didn't let the kid come to the performance last night (he was one the tech crew), but we coped easily without him. The saddest thing is that it's the kid who's going to suffer because his dad won't let him work with me again.

Arrr, sorry to hear that Goddess, but you do have the opportunity to engage the kid during working hours. Talking about self centered; the dad is too self-centered to see the benefits to his child!

358 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:05:09am

re: #355 goddessoftheclassroom

he was one the tech crew

LOL. You reminded me of my high school days. A couple of my buddies and I volunteered for the stage crew for the musical production of Milk and Honey. My job was to open and close the curtain. It was actually fun; not to mention a great way to skip classes legallyfor all those rehearsals!

359 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:07:03am

re: #357 loflyer

Arrr, sorry to hear that Goddess, but you do have the opportunity to engage the kid during working hours. Talking about self centered; the dad is too self-centered to see the benefits to his child!

Actually, I don't. The dad has ordered me never to speak to his child again. I wanted to ask him, "or else?" but I know better than to engage crazy people.

360 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:08:38am

re: #359 goddessoftheclassroom

Actually, I don't. The dad has ordered me never to speak to his child again. I wanted to ask him, "or else?" but I know better than to engage crazy people.

Wow. You better speak to your principal about this nut.

361 Killian Bundy  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:10:51am

re: #350 doriangrey

I have files that are 10 G/B

/and those certainly not "text" files

362 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:14:00am

Goddess, you aren't the only one with issues. Here is 'me reply to a application developer Friday on some "issues" he is blaming on 'me beloved network. "Jason, I will be glad to give you another capture from the workstation next week. I must emphasize the capture shows 44 seconds of back and forth inquiries from the workstation and server before receiving a login prompt. To state that this might be a network issue ludicrous." and I CC'ed the director...

363 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:18:45am

re: #360 Spare O'Lake

Wow. You better speak to your principal about this nut.

Oh, I called him yesterday.

364 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:19:23am

re: #361 Killian Bundy

/and those certainly not "text" files

No, they are 3D renderings of complex carbon composite structures. But these are single files that are 10G/B and we have hundreds of files like this. Fortunately our server has something like 1000 Terabytes of drive space, yes it's a IBM blade server with a massive RAID array. My home computer cant even think of displaying most of these files, and it's a dual core AMD 2.4Ghz with 2G/b of Ram and 120 G/B of HDD. My video card would explode in a massive ball of fire if I tried....

365 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:20:07am

re: #361 Killian Bundy

/and those certainly not "text" files

A couple of hundred videos of the 'vette? ;D

366 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:21:02am
367 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:22:08am

re: #365 Spare O'Lake

A couple of hundred videos of the 'vette? ;D

ROTFLMAO......... I wish........... I dont have a camera that will do video.... But if I did I most certainly would have such videos....

368 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:23:34am

re: #364 doriangrey

No, they are 3D renderings of complex carbon composite structures. But these are single files that are 10G/B and we have hundreds of files like this. Fortunately our server has something like 1000 Terabytes of drive space, yes it's a IBM blade server with a massive RAID array. My home computer cant even think of displaying most of these files, and it's a dual core AMD 2.4Ghz with 2G/b of Ram and 120 G/B of HDD. My video card would explode in a massive ball of fire if I tried....

Oh yea, and then the Black Helicopters would be circling my house like flies hovering over a pile of doggy doo-doo...... ;p

369 loflyer  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:23:36am

Later mates, I have 'me dawg mates to walk(and play)!

370 legalpad  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:23:47am

re: #353 goddessoftheclassroom

Isn't it odd how some people accuse you of doing what they are doing. My wife comes home with reports of behavior like this in parents every now and then. You usually find out that they are in conflicts with everybody. If the kid has any real problems, it's usually that parent.

371 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:25:57am
372 NYCHardhat  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:26:31am

Good morning Lizards.

373 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:28:41am

re: #371 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.fredeaglesmith.com...]

Get Tenderbox
CD
#18
If not now When?

Someday (in my dreams) TFK will be pimping my new CD out with equal fervor.... ;)

374 NYCHardhat  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:29:52am

Who wants to laugh?

375 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:30:35am
376 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:31:28am

re: #374 NYCHardhat

Who wants to laugh?

If you're not already laughing at my forlorn dreams of ever being able to afford to record another CD then you dont have a funny bone in your body.... ;p

377 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:31:30am
378 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:35:46am

re: #374 NYCHardhat

Who wants to laugh?

He had to state he isn't swept up in the 'O phoria. Methink he doth protest too much......or however that went.

379 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:37:11am

After reading that ,I now have to make pancakes this morning.
It's oozing with syrupy praise.

380 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:38:17am

re: #379 n in wi

After reading that ,I now have to make pancakes this morning.
It's oozing with syrupy praise.


reply to #374

381 Rancher  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:38:31am

Good morning Lizards. A sign of how bad things are is this question, one that should never even be asked: Are California State Muni Bonds Secure?
BTW, yes, they are.

Real Rancher

382 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:38:47am

With the economy in the dumps, the Bid 3 auto makers close to bankruptcy in part due to outrageous union contracts, and layoffs happening every day around the country, what does the screen actors guild decide to do?

Screen Actors Guild to seek to authorize strike

TEL AVIV (MarketWatch) - The Screen Actors Guild, representing some 120,000 actors in movies, TV, the Internet, commercials, new media and more, said on Saturday that it would ask its members to authorize a strike after a federal mediator failed to bring the union and management to terms.
The guild said that it had been optimistic that a mediator's intervention would move the talks along but that after two days of mediated talks, management "continues to insist on terms we cannot responsibly accept on behalf of our members."
The statement said the 75-year-old guild hasn't set a timetable during which it would mail and members would return the strike-authorization ballots.
The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, which represents more than 350 production companies and studios, said in a statement that "SAG is the only major Hollywood guild that has failed to negotiate a labor deal in 2008.
"Now, SAG is bizarrely asking its members to bail out the failed negotiating strategy with a strike vote -- at a time of historic economic crisis. The tone deafness of SAG is stunning."
Doug Allen, the guild's national executive director and chief negotiator, told The Wall Street Journal that the sticking point in the talks is management's desire to create productions for new media, like the Internet, with nonunion actors and without paying residuals. These are payments that actors receive each time one of their performances is rerun.

Please. Go on strike.

383 NYCHardhat  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:39:01am

re: #376 doriangrey

What kind of music do you record?

384 NYCHardhat  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:40:55am

re: #380 n in wi

And the person who sent me that said that the writer was the more conservative of the bunch.
(pardon me while I puke)

385 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:41:40am

At the moment, the market futures are pointing to a strong up move at the open tomorrow.

386 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:42:23am

re: #383 NYCHardhat

What kind of music do you record?

Oh just your everyday self centered narcissistic guitar hero wannbe crap. You can click my nic and listen to some of my shit from my last CD. I didn't have the money to do it right or really get what I wanted recorded, but you can still kind of get a sense of what I do.

387 Rancher  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:43:27am

re: #374 NYCHardhat

Who wants to laugh?

If a foreign enemy attacks the United States during the Harvard-Yale game any time over the next four years, we’re screwed.


LOL. If our local prison ever hes a major emergency during any town function involving alcohol we're in the same boat.

388 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:45:16am

re: #384 NYCHardhat

Yeah,Brooks is the token Conservative of the NY Times. Thats the crap we can expect if the fairness doctrine is implemented. MSN,CNN,WAPO,NYT, will have crap like that to show a balance of opinion. What a joke.

389 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:45:23am

re: #382 3 wood

With the economy in the dumps, the Bid 3 auto makers close to bankruptcy in part due to outrageous union contracts, and layoffs happening every day around the country, what does the screen actors guild decide to do?

Screen Actors Guild to seek to authorize strike


Please. Go on strike.

They may be suffering from that most terrible of maladies, tin ear.
Gaaaagh I hate Unions.

390 NYCHardhat  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:46:34am

re: #388 n in wi

I mean, does he have a gun to his head or is he writing this shit to keep his job?

391 NYCHardhat  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:49:02am

re: #386 doriangrey

Better than my noise/pop band.
LF

392 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:49:56am

Good morning all y'all - from a chilly (37 degrees going all the way up to 53 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
Today is my mom's 84th birthday so I'll be in and out of LGF today, but hope everyone is doing ok!
How IS everyone this fine morning?

393 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:50:05am

re: #382 3 wood
With the popularity of "reality" shows,I don't see a strong argument on the part of SAG. Let them walk,cheap labor[actors] will fill the void.
But,Dems get big contributons from the Hollywierd crowd,so.....

394 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:51:52am

re: #389 bbuddha

They may be suffering from that most terrible of maladies, tin ear.
Gaaaagh I hate Unions.

I so hope they go on strike and ruin their ability to make money. I mean, what else is a goof like Sean Penn qualified to do? Spy for the enemy maybe, but that has limited upside.

Maybe they can stand in line for one of Obama's 2.5 million WPA jobs he's talking about doing.

395 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:52:09am

re: #391 NYCHardhat

Better than my noise/pop band.
LF

Well I have only been playing for 30 odd years or so... Well 20 something when that CD was recorded.... Ekkkkkkkk.........................

396 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:53:25am

re: #392 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a chilly (37 degrees going all the way up to 53 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
Today is my mom's 84th birthday so I'll be in and out of LGF today, but hope everyone is doing ok!
How IS everyone this fine morning?

Other than sniveling about my never being able to afford to record another CD pretty damn good, how about you real?

397 NYCHardhat  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:53:49am

re: #395 doriangrey

Yeah. Thats more than my 5 years.

398 Ben Hur  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:54:24am

Have you seen this response written by an Iranian women, to Medea Benjiman's recent trip to support the Iranian regime?

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

Apparently, Benjiman doesn't realize that Iranians aren't Arab Iraqis.

399 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:54:28am

re: #390 NYCHardhat

I mean, does he have a gun to his head or is he writing this shit to keep his job?


I'd say a stick up his ass. He wants to stay in the good graces with the elite media,get invites to parties,get good interviews with the new admin. hey if it can happen to Supreme Court judges,it can happen to regurgitators...er, reporters.

400 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:55:14am

re: #397 NYCHardhat

Yeah. Thats more than my 5 years.

ROTFLMAO........ Yes, well one would be forgiven if they were to think that after 30 years I might have actually learned to play... Or at least learned how to fake it.... ;p

401 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:57:53am

re: #396 doriangrey
Hey dorian - I'm doing well - very well - managed to surprise Mom with a birthday gift this year (no car and no Credit Cards so it's kinda hard to get out shopping ya know) and I'm still grinning ear-to-ear that she was pleased with getting the surprise!
Ya know that they do make computers where you can record your own music, doncha? You record it , upload it to you HD and then download it to the CD Write. You should try it sometime! LOL!
Course, if you want all sorts of special effects and all, ya need to buddy up with someone who owns a recording studio!

402 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 6:59:30am

re: #392 realwest

Good morning back atcha from a 61-degree Tampa going up to low 70's.

/sorry

I was lurking recently and read some very impressive stuff about your dad's (and grandad's?) wonderful service to our country. What a great family, and thanks always for theirs and your service.

{realwest} and Happy Birthday to your {mom}!

403 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:00:05am

re: #329 akak

huh? If it were the starting point of bombs landing in S.A by NATO I could understand. Reconciliation is not possible.

They just want to get him out of Pakistan, And I think Pakistan would help pack his bag. It might make a difference and things like suicide bombers would be less frequent.
What a way to blackmail...!

404 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:01:44am

re: #401 realwest

Hey dorian - I'm doing well - very well - managed to surprise Mom with a birthday gift this year (no car and no Credit Cards so it's kinda hard to get out shopping ya know) and I'm still grinning ear-to-ear that she was pleased with getting the surprise!
Ya know that they do make computers where you can record your own music, doncha? You record it , upload it to you HD and then download it to the CD Write. You should try it sometime! LOL!
Course, if you want all sorts of special effects and all, ya need to buddy up with someone who owns a recording studio!

ROTFLMAO..........Good on you for Mom's birthday.... You make home recording sound sooo simple. I have tired it, it's way harder than most people think. Damn near impossible to record anything worth a crap. Which probably explains why despite all the hardware and software available today you really just dont hear of any of the major acts recording their number one CD's at home on their computers.

405 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:03:31am

re: #402 gettinby
Hey there {gettinby} - thanks! Um, where were you lurking at that you saw that? Honestly don't remember writing about it recently, but then again, of all the things in my life I've lost, I miss my memory the most!
Hope you're doing well today - received an e-mail from you but haven't had a chance to read and respond yet!

406 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:05:30am

re: #382 3 wood

These are the people who assumed they would lecture US about what the country needs to do through their productions and public appearances.

Yeah morons go for it.

407 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:05:33am

speaking of temps.....I'm trying to figure out just how many layers I can get on and still move. It is only 33 here and I want to go play with my new toy. I got a glock 9mm. need to find out just how rusty my skills have gotten.

408 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:06:48am

re: #404 doriangrey Well next time 3 wood's around, y'all might ask him - he and his wife have made at least two CD's (yes, he's not only VERY BRIGHT but talented, musically - if I didn't like 3 wood so much I could easily learn to be jealous!) and I think he said he recorded 'em at home.
And no, the Major Acts don't need no stinkin' at home recording studios (though they could easily afford 'em) but that's cause the are Major Acts! (no offense my friend - but you haven't had a #1 hit in what - 10-15 years now?!)!

409 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:07:50am

re: #402 gettinby
PS - gonna go give Mom your birthday wishes and pass along the hugs!
BBIAM!

410 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:08:33am

re: #374 NYCHardhat

The Ivy League is fast approaching clown school status.

/apologies to all clowns everywhere

411 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:09:40am

re: #408 realwest

Well next time 3 wood's around, y'all might ask him - he and his wife have made at least two CD's (yes, he's not only VERY BRIGHT but talented, musically - if I didn't like 3 wood so much I could easily learn to be jealous!) and I think he said he recorded 'em at home.
And no, the Major Acts don't need no stinkin' at home recording studios (though they could easily afford 'em) but that's cause the are Major Acts! (no offense my friend - but you haven't had a #1 hit in what - 10-15 years now?!)!

12 years... But hey, who's counting... Actually I think 3 wood is around right now, but hey he's in what Detroit? I'm in SoCal.... I'll just hop in the ole vette and drive over to his place this afternoon.... lol...lol...lol...

412 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:09:57am

Periodically in my market commentaries I have referred to the "TED spread" and some folks have asked what that is.

The TED SPread simply is the interest rate difference (or "spread") between 3 month Treasuries (which are seen as essentially risk-free investments) and the 3 month LIBOR which is seen as reflecting the risk of lending to commercial banks. As the market gets more skittish and credit dries up, you see th TED Spread increasing. An elevated TED Spread is an indicator of anticipated defaults in the banking system.

Historically, the TED Spread in good times has been about 10 to 50 basis points. A year ago it jumped up to about 100 basis points. On October 10, 2008 it reached 465 basis points. Very clearly the credit markets had locked up and the bank system was on the verge of collapse.

While I understand that some folks disagree with the assessment that the banking system was on the verge of collapse, it just does not reflect reality.

On 11/21 the TED Spread closed at 215 basis points, still dangerously elevated but over 50% lower than the worst in October. I think that shows that the bail out of the banking system is working and the credit situation is easing. Not fast, but there is progress regardless.

You have to remember that the credit system started slowing to a halt a year ago. It is going to take some time to recover from this, even with The Messiah elected.

413 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:11:40am

re: #411 doriangrey

12 years... But hey, who's counting... Actually I think 3 wood is around right now, but hey he's in what Detroit? I'm in SoCal.... I'll just hop in the ole vette and drive over to his place this afternoon.... lol...lol...lol...

Besides I suspect 3 wood is avoiding this discussion like the plague.... Exposing his true inner genius..... lol...lol...lol...

414 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:14:14am

re: #392 realwest

Hey real, did you get my email form Friday night?

Sent you another recollection of my days as a private cop for that bank.

By the way, we have a slightly larger household now. We adopted a 10 year old chocolate lab yesterday that had been abandoned.

What a sweetie. We are so fortunate to have her.

This morning she got a breakfast of Mrs. 3 wood's homemade waffles.

415 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:14:20am

re: #412 3 wood

I do not have any problem supporting banks but TARP was a mistake. Why not just fund the FDIC and expand it's powers a bit?

416 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:15:20am

re: #411 doriangrey

12 years... But hey, who's counting... Actually I think 3 wood is around right now, but hey he's in what Detroit? I'm in SoCal.... I'll just hop in the ole vette and drive over to his place this afternoon.... lol...lol...lol...

What's up?

417 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:16:43am

This will make your Sunday morning. From the Denver Post (paper of record for the socialist party)...

Giving up on the American dream- With its faltering economy, the U.S. is no longer the land of opportunity it once was for Mexican immigrants.

Seven years after an illegal crossing that led to abundant work cooking and cleaning, Lopez, his wife and their 6-year-old, Denver-born son plan to chase their dream of opening a tortilla factory in Mexico. They say their $1,000-a- week combined earnings here plummeted in recent months to around $300. They're moving from a $700-a-month rented house in Wheat Ridge to a cheaper two-room apartment until they head home to Veracruz next year, Lopez said.

Negative remarks and lower wages for Latino workers "hurt you," he said, citing social climate as a factor in his family's decision.
"Mexico's a better place to raise a child. . . . If we stay longer, we'll lose money, because there won't be enough work."

As Charles says... read it all.

[Link: www.denverpost.com...]

418 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:17:21am

re: #416 3 wood

What's up?

ROTFLMAO.... Hey 3 wood.... Not a thing... Well except me sniveling about not being able to ever afford to record again....

419 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:18:06am

re: #414 3 wood
Hey my friend - no - no I didn't receive any e-mails from you for a while now - or at least a week anyway!
Glad to know you've got that Lab - I love all labs, but the Golden Labs are my personal fav's! Didja get her from an animal rescue group?
And btw, please see my #408 above while I ponder your #412!

420 floater  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:18:47am

Barack Obama will be the "Disclosure President", unclassifying all US docs relating to UFOs, in conjunction with France, Britain and China ...
John Podesta will assist -- sometime in March 2009

421 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:20:38am

Good Morning Lizards...
drinking Frangelico Cafe Moulu coffee this morning Dorian.
It is so strong your hair will grow back..woooooo...

422 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:21:09am

re: #417 Walter L. Newton
sneak into a country, stay and work there illegally taking work from american citizens. then bitch about the "social climate"
but on the other hand, this is the upside to an economic downturn. let them all leave and then actually close the border.

423 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:22:00am

re: #420 floater

Barack Obama will be the "Disclosure President", unclassifying all US docs relating to UFOs, in conjunction with France, Britain and China ...
John Podesta will assist -- sometime in March 2009

Oh please.... What the fuck is there to disclose? Fuck the conspiracy theories, if UFO's were real there would be indisputable evidence that no government or the MSM could possible cover up... Grow a fucking brain already and USE IT...........

424 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:22:16am

re: #420 floater

Barack Obama will be the "Disclosure President", unclassifying all US docs relating to UFOs, in conjunction with France, Britain and China ...
John Podesta will assist -- sometime in March 2009

Well, that's good. That will put all the UFO hacks out of business. If there was anything earth shattering under wraps, it would never be released.

Of course, now the space brother huggers can just claim that Obama is secretly a space lizard.

I got dibs on a new book on that subject.

425 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:22:50am

re: #421 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards...
drinking Frangelico Cafe Moulu coffee this morning Dorian.
It is so strong your hair will grow back..woooooo...

I lost my hair.... Holy fuck when did that happen..... lol...lol...lol...

426 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:23:29am

re: #420 floater

Barack Obama will be the "Disclosure President", unclassifying all US docs relating to UFOs, in conjunction with France, Britain and China ...
John Podesta will assist -- sometime in March 2009

I wonder if they really give you an anal probe? Is it true floater?

427 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:23:30am

re: #412 3 wood
Yeah, a slow recovery for the financial institutes,a wind down to the hostilities in Iraq,housing market slowly coming back[at least to where it should be]. Looks like every thing will fall in place for the Dem Congress and Pres. to take full credit and let tax brakes expire in 2010,just after mid-term elections.
But we can count on the MSM to tell us how things really happen,can't we?

428 saberry0530  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:23:47am

re: #425 doriangrey

I lost my hair.... Holy fuck when did that happen..... lol...lol...lol...

August 16th, 2005?
//////had to

429 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:24:03am

re: #417 Walter L. Newton

I guess Americans are going to have to learn how to do these things again.

I am having a hard time seeing a down-side to this.

430 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:24:55am

re: #422 bbuddha

sneak into a country, stay and work there illegally taking work from american citizens. then bitch about the "social climate"
but on the other hand, this is the upside to an economic downturn. let them all leave and then actually close the border.

The amazing thing is the paper used the word "illegal." That may have been the first time the Denver Post ever printed that word in reference to immigration.

I don't think it is even in their style book.

431 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:24:57am

re: #428 saberry0530

August 16th, 2005?
//////had to

ROTFLMAO.................

432 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:25:04am

re: #415 unclassifiable

I do not have any problem supporting banks but TARP was a mistake. Why not just fund the FDIC and expand it's powers a bit?

The ripple effects of these deals was immense.

For example, if AIG had folded, you would have had hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars of public bond issues out there that would have been in default. School districts, counties, Library districts, municipalities all would have have large bond issues that they would have had to immediately pay off. They simply do not have that kind of ready cash, so they would have had to default and declare bankruptcy. You would have had local area governments all over the country going bankrupt.

It's a two prong situation at least. First, you had to keep the collapse from happening (which I think we did) . Second, you have to fix how the system operates to keep this from happening again.

For example, AIG is selling bond insurance very cheaply, and then only reserving 3 or 4 cents on the dollar of it's exposure and pocketing the rest as profit. They should have been reserving 30% to 50%. That has to change going forward.

So first you have to stop the bleeding, then you have to fix the cause.

433 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:25:39am

re: #417 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter - read it all indeed: "Bank data show the amount of money Mexican workers send home is falling for the first time in a decade. Mexico has come to rely on these remittances, which totaled $24 billion last year."
Holy cow, $24 billion - we coulda bailed out the Big 3 for that amount!
/very heavy.
Good article though - thanks for the link.

434 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:25:48am

re: #421 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards...
drinking Frangelico Cafe Moulu coffee this morning Dorian.
It is so strong your hair will grow back..woooooo...

Dude, you where drinking coffee at 10:00 last night. Some Irish stuff I think.

435 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:25:53am

re: #428 saberry0530

August 16th, 2005?
//////had to

A day that will live in infamy

436 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:26:59am

re: #434 n in wi

Dude, you where drinking coffee at 10:00 last night. Some Irish stuff I think.

Yea..that stuff was way good..

437 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:27:06am

re: #405 realwest

Sorry taking so long to answer. Mr. GBy just came home with the groceries, so I had to test taste the pumpkin pie with whipped cream, some Fritos "scoops" with bean dip, and deli mesquite turkey (for our club sandwiches for later today) after we do some shrimp cocktail for brunch.

Anyway, I was lurking on the Veteran's Day thread (Nov. 11) where I read the wonderful stories people shared, including yours.

My favorite threads are the ones honoring our troops.

438 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:27:19am

re: #435 HoosierHoops

A day that will live in infamy

Indeed..... lol...lol...lol...

439 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:28:14am

re: #432 3 wood

...

So first you have to stop the bleeding, then you have to fix the cause.

And where is the evidence that anyone in DC is interested in fixing this? When politicians want to make a point, or win a few points, they usually whip together some sort of committee or a special prosecutor faster than a New York minute.

In this case... crickets here....

440 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:28:33am

re: #437 gettinby

Sorry taking so long to answer. Mr. GBy just came home with the groceries, so I had to test taste the pumpkin pie with whipped cream, some Fritos "scoops" with bean dip, and deli mesquite turkey (for our club sandwiches for later today) after we do some shrimp cocktail for brunch.

Anyway, I was lurking on the Veteran's Day thread (Nov. 11) where I read the wonderful stories people shared, including yours.

My favorite threads are the ones honoring our troops.

Had to indeed.... Did it pass? Being a former QC I feel the need to be assured that it did.... ;)

441 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:28:46am

re: #432 3 wood

Thank you for the explanation. I wonder who else besides AIG got hit on that type of exposure?

I guess that will be the next shoe to drop.

442 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:28:52am

re: #436 HoosierHoops
Caffeine immune are you?

443 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:29:01am

re: #423 doriangrey
and
re: #424 Walter L. Newton

Well I hope you both see the error of your ways: now they'll be a NEW MARKET in UFO's criticizing the US government for not releasing "really important material" MUCH SOONER. Indeed, I expect a slew of books about that very topic.
Not to mention the revised editions of all those existing UFO books! LOL!

444 Timbre  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:29:18am
Soldier: Oh?

Col. Edwards: That's "Oh, Sir?" to you, Soldier.

445 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:29:41am

re: #418 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... Hey 3 wood.... Not a thing... Well except me sniveling about not being able to ever afford to record again....

Well, you can do what I do and record it yourself and you can even self produce.

For about $1,000 give or take you can get yourself some pretty good digital recording equipment with a mixing board, a good microphone and cables etc.

We've recorded 2 CD's in our home and are working on a 3rd. I produced the first one all by myself. For the second we hired a pro and for about $3,000 he took our master cuts, remixed and cleaned up the sound, did all the cover and label art work and got 1,000 copies factory produced.

It really helps to set up a home recording studio.

446 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:29:57am

re: #442 n in wi

Caffeine immune are you?

No, hoops just needs to thin the blood in his caffeine system periodically.... ;)

447 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:30:42am

re: #421 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops - hey I didn't know dorian was bald? Are ya sure or should we just go ahead and start the rumor and wait for the truth to come out - sorta like some of those stalker type stories?!?

448 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:30:59am

re: #443 realwest

and
re: #424 Walter L. Newton

Well I hope you both see the error of your ways: now they'll be a NEW MARKET in UFO's criticizing the US government for not releasing "really important material" MUCH SOONER. Indeed, I expect a slew of books about that very topic.
Not to mention the revised editions of all those existing UFO books! LOL!

Will Obama move the Whitehouse to Area 54?

449 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:31:16am

good morning, everyone, I see coffee has been poured!

Can blogging be lobbying?

the first couple of paragraphs:

Blogger beware? State regulators are wondering whether online political activism amounts to lobbying, which could force Web-based activists to file public reports detailing their finances.

In a collision of 21st century media and 1970s political reforms, the inquiry hints at a showdown over press freedoms for bloggers, whose self-published journals can shift between news reporting, opinion writing, political organizing and campaign fundraising.

450 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:31:54am

re: #430 Walter L. Newton

The amazing thing is the paper used the word "illegal." That may have been the first time the Denver Post ever printed that word in reference to immigration.

I don't think it is even in their style book.


to my great chagrin I must admit I didn't even notice that part. Maybe it is a good sign (don't rip off my rose colored glasses)

451 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:32:23am

re: #427 n in wi

But we can count on the MSM to tell us how things really happen,can't we?

On the bright side, many of them may be bankrupt by 2010. We can only hope.

452 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:32:27am

re: #445 3 wood

Well, you can do what I do and record it yourself and you can even self produce.

For about $1,000 give or take you can get yourself some pretty good digital recording equipment with a mixing board, a good microphone and cables etc.

We've recorded 2 CD's in our home and are working on a 3rd. I produced the first one all by myself. For the second we hired a pro and for about $3,000 he took our master cuts, remixed and cleaned up the sound, did all the cover and label art work and got 1,000 copies factory produced.

It really helps to set up a home recording studio.

ROTFLMAO.............. $1000.00+$3000.00 I cant even afford the $500.00 to replace the windshield on my vette.... Besides I just dont have the computer skillz for that, I did try it once and just could not seem to get the hang of recording and playing at the same time...

453 Timbre  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:33:32am

re: #449 reine.de.tout

Conservative thinking is lobbying. Obama needs to tax Conservatives' thoughts.

/

454 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:34:12am

re: #407 bbuddha

speaking of temps.....I'm trying to figure out just how many layers I can get on and still move. It is only 33 here and I want to go play with my new toy. I got a glock 9mm. need to find out just how rusty my skills have gotten.

Yay! And congratulations! It'll be like riding a bicycle. Once you put it in your grip, it will all come back to you. And I'm sure you'll love it!

re: #414 3 wood

Awwww....what a wonderful thing you and Mrs. 3wood did adopting the labbie. Our black lab is 12 now and she's truly the best dog I've ever had. They have such human emotions and are adaptable to pretty much anything a family does.

455 gregg  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:34:48am

Back in March, Dr. Pepper promised a free soft drink to everyone in America if Guns N' Roses released its long-awaited Chinese Democracy album before the end of 2008. Since then, Gun N' Roses has announced the album would be released on November 23rd. Dr. Pepper is honoring their promise and today is the day you can claim your free can of soda pop by going to the Dr. Pepper website.

People must be taking advantage of the offer, because their website is running really slow. I wonder if they've taken a few of their servers offline in an attempt to limit the damage?

456 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:34:59am

re: #447 realwest

Good morning Hoops - hey I didn't know dorian was bald? Are ya sure or should we just go ahead and start the rumor and wait for the truth to come out - sorta like some of those stalker type stories?!?

Ohh can I get in on this rumor mongering thing? Didn't I loose my hair as a result of aliens abducting me and surgically implanting a computer in my brain?

457 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:35:41am

re: #440 doriangrey

Had to indeed.... Did it pass? Being a former QC I feel the need to be assured that it did.... ;)

*burp*

/oh, dear...excuuuuuuse me. ;)

LOL

458 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:36:18am

re: #443 realwest

and
re: #424 Walter L. Newton

Well I hope you both see the error of your ways: now they'll be a NEW MARKET in UFO's criticizing the US government for not releasing "really important material" MUCH SOONER. Indeed, I expect a slew of books about that very topic.
Not to mention the revised editions of all those existing UFO books! LOL!

Back in the 70's in Dallas, I co-hosted a radio program, once a month on KRLD, the last Sat. night of every month, from midnight to 5:00am (yes, pre Coast to Coast, Art Bell, you own me some royalties). KRLD was a 50 thousand watt station, so we hit most of the west and southwest.

Let me tell you kiddies, they do exist. The nuts that is. I was an armchair UFOlogist, had over 1000 books on the subject, and no where, not anywhere, was any iron-clad scientific proof.

In that day, I preferred to use the term Unidentified Aerial Object, since there was object flitting around up there that we could not identify. But any proof that they were manned or controlled by aliens from another planet was totally lacking.

My two sense.

459 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:36:37am

re: #449 reine.de.tout

That is a newspaper and a lobbyist basically trying to skewer the cheap competition from the blogs.

Self-serving bas...

460 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:36:55am

re: #457 gettinby

*burp*

/oh, dear...excuuuuuuse me. ;)

LOL

Oh dear... I didn't have my decibel meter turned on for that, how will I ever calculate the satisfaction level now?

461 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:36:59am

re: #456 doriangrey

Ohh can I get in on this rumor mongering thing? Didn't I loose my hair as a result of aliens abducting me and surgically implanting a computer in my brain?

Its the Chargers vs. Colts tonight Dorian..
Your boys are going down!
/

462 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:37:02am

re: #451 3 wood

On the bright side, many of them may be bankrupt by 2010. We can only hope.

Bail out ,right after the UAW and SAG.

463 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:37:56am

re: #448 n in wi

Will Obama move the Whitehouse to Area 54?

Nope. I heard he is kicking out Charles Johnson from his secret lair under Denver International Airport and using that space.

464 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:39:23am

re: #461 HoosierHoops

Its the Chargers vs. Colts tonight Dorian..
Your boys are going down!
/

In your dreams.... We're so far down now we're going to kick your ass just to be spoilers...... ;P

465 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:39:31am

re: #437 gettinby
Ah - well if I ever read an excuse, that's the best one yet - how did it all taste?
Crimminey, I just ate a big breakfast and your post made me hungry again! LOL!
You ought to read the Victory in Iraq day thread from yesterday if you enjoy reading about honoring our troops.
And if a group named "Soldiers Angels" ever asks for a donation and you can afford to, giving to them seems like a really good bet. LGFer Logboy lost the use of one of his arms in Iraq and they provided him with much needed help, a laptop with voice recongition built in and still call from time to time to see how he (and his family) are doing!
And yes, I am VERY PROUD of my Dad and Grandfather's contributions as "Troops" - Dad (rip) lost his right eye flying a P-38 somewhere over Guadilcanal and my Granddad started his career riding (literally, on horseback!) with Gen Black Jack Pershing after Poncho Villa, fought in WWI (where he was subjected to a gas attack) WWII in the Pacific and commanded a military base in Japan during Korea. Regrettably he passed about 30 years ago.
But the line ends with me; no children I'm afraid.

466 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:39:50am

re: #439 Walter L. Newton

And where is the evidence that anyone in DC is interested in fixing this? When politicians want to make a point, or win a few points, they usually whip together some sort of committee or a special prosecutor faster than a New York minute.

You have to have a functioning SEC and Cox was worthless. The committees and such are window dressing. It's the policy and regulation changes that tend to go unnoticed at first that have the longer run impact.

For example, are you familiar with the OPEB pronouncement from FASB?

If not, read up on it. If you think "mark to market" was a cluster----, you aint seen nothing yet.

467 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:41:48am

re: #440 doriangrey
Hey dorian - que es un QC ?

468 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:42:47am

re: #420 floater

Why doesn't he SELL exclusive rights for the documents?

$10T in the hole and we are still giving stuff away.

469 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:43:16am

re: #460 doriangrey

Oh dear... I didn't have my decibel meter turned on for that, how will I ever calculate the satisfaction level now?

LOL

Since I'm a "lady," it was actually more of a mmmmph than a burp, with my hand gently covering my lips so as to be modest.

/Southern manners, you know.

470 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:44:21am

re: #419 realwest

Hey my friend - no - no I didn't receive any e-mails from you for a while now - or at least a week anyway!

That explains a lot, I've sent you 3 or 4 in the past week. Just resent my latest.

471 gregg  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:44:44am

I don't know if it's a sign of the things to come, but one of the larger, if not largest, automobile dealers in the Twin Cities is closing six of his dealerships and has sold three others.

472 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:45:20am

re: #448 n in wi
SHUSH! And besides, it's Area 51 - that danged place has been investigated so much no one would think to look for it there..............except maybe Helen Thomas! LOL!
Good morning to you!

473 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:45:30am

re: #466 3 wood

You have to have a functioning SEC and Cox was worthless. The committees and such are window dressing. It's the policy and regulation changes that tend to go unnoticed at first that have the longer run impact.

For example, are you familiar with the OPEB pronouncement from FASB?

If not, read up on it. If you think "mark to market" was a cluster----, you aint seen nothing yet.

Ok, make believe that I am economic theory challenged, because I am. Make believe I know enough on how to manage my money, not overload myself with abusive debt, because I do.

Now, give me the grass roots answer to my question. They are giving all this money away, but, have they set up anything to make sure this will not happen this way again.

And why haven't they even set up the oversight committee to over sight the money they are giving away. It was mandated by law. How can they give money away and have no one keeping track of how the money is really being used.

474 big steve  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:45:53am

If you want to see the epitome of irony you should read this. Employees of a labor union in the Houston area had to ORGANIZE themselves to be treated decently. That's right, these were paid employees of a Union and they had to unionize themselves to be treated right by their employer which was a labor union. Furthermore, the union/employer FOUGHT AGAINST their paid staff organizing and had to file a Labor Board complaint! When Employees of a Union Organize

475 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:46:32am

re: #441 unclassifiable

Thank you for the explanation. I wonder who else besides AIG got hit on that type of exposure?

There are several other insurance companies out there who are hurting, but are keeping their heads down and letting AIG take all the heat.

476 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:47:19am

re: #449 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! Hey that's from Seattle - a/k/a Berkley North - so whaddya expect from them?!
LOL! How are you doing today? How comes the cook book?

477 n in wi  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:47:39am

re: #472 realwest

SHUSH! And besides, it's Area 51 - that danged place has been investigated so much no one would think to look for it there..............except maybe Helen Thomas! LOL!
Good morning to you!

Way to go, I said area 54 to throw off any lurkers,now you let the cat out of the bag. Turn in your decoder ring

478 irongrampa  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:47:54am

Good morning, all. For those interested, we may be offering for sale, a well-trained (mostly) black lab, and a Garfield clone cat, if they terrorize another living room. Details may be available at a later date.

479 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:48:42am

re: #467 realwest

Hey dorian - que es un QC ?

Si..... 2 years ISO 9000:2001 certified at Toro (TTC) And a year now with DR Technologies... (It's not my main job with DR, just one of my responsibilities)

480 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:49:15am

re: #451 3 wood
Well, Obama did offer us HOPE - the CHANGE part however, seems to have gone down the memory hole, as so far, except possibly for Napolitano and/or Richardson, every one Obama has appointed has come from the Carter or Clinton administatrations!
Gack and Gag!

481 itellu3times  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:49:56am

re: #473 Walter L. Newton

I am with you on this, sirrah. Giving away money is, when all is said and done, giving away money. Why supervise, a cynic might say, it is not going to be pretty in any case.

Call this, Plan 9 from Hank Paulson.

482 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:50:46am

re: #465 realwest

We regularly give to Soldier's Angels. A wonderful group of people. How grand they are, and very glad to hear about Logboy's experience with them. Bless him and THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR YOUR SERVICE, Logboy!

I will go back and read Victory in Iraq - thanks for the headsup.

YES! That's what you posted on the Veteran's Day thread - WOW!

I used to dabble in antiques, and had a "certified" spittoon that supposedly belonged to Poncho Villa. My ex-husband swapped it for an unopened bottle of very old whiskey of some sort.

483 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:51:27am

re: #452 doriangrey
Gee dorian, sorry to hear about your financial problems, but as for "the hang of recording and playing at the same time..." you just turn the microphone to "On" and then PLAY the instrument(s) and sing.
Oh, and don't forget to turn mic off when through!

484 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:52:49am

re: #474 big steve

Could not happen to a more deserving union than the SEIU. Infected by BDS from top to bottom.

485 nyc redneck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:53:21am

re: #478 irongrampa

Good morning, all. For those interested, we may be offering for sale, a well-trained (mostly) black lab, and a Garfield clone cat, if they terrorize another living room. Details may be available at a later date.

i had a doberman once who drove me crazy. she was such a feisty prankster which could go into destructiveness so quickly. she was almost 3 before she started acting like a 'human being.'
i still laugh at some of the stunts she pulled. i miss her so much.

486 akak  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:53:33am

re: #473 Walter L. Newton

Ok, make believe that I am economic theory challenged, because I am. Make believe I know enough on how to manage my money, not overload myself with abusive debt, because I do.

Now, give me the grass roots answer to my question. They are giving all this money away, but, have they set up anything to make sure this will not happen this way again.

And why haven't they even set up the oversight committee to over sight the money they are giving away. It was mandated by law. How can they give money away and have no one keeping track of how the money is really being used.

The federal program to insure? Same sub-prime dicks are now scamming that too?

487 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:53:37am

re: #483 realwest

Gee dorian, sorry to hear about your financial problems, but as for "the hang of recording and playing at the same time..." you just turn the microphone to "On" and then PLAY the instrument(s) and sing.
Oh, and don't forget to turn mic off when through!

ROTFLMAO................. That's what I thought, but nooooooo it's aint even close to that easy..... Multi track sync'ing of midi to analog actually get's pretty damn tricky....

488 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:53:54am

re: #474 big steve

If you want to see the epitome of irony you should read this. Employees of a labor union in the Houston area had to ORGANIZE themselves to be treated decently. That's right, these were paid employees of a Union and they had to unionize themselves to be treated right by their employer which was a labor union. Furthermore, the union/employer FOUGHT AGAINST their paid staff organizing and had to file a Labor Board complaint! When Employees of a Union Organize


That makes me feel all warm and tingly. SEIU is the union that I've had to deal with. after I was hired my employer went all union, when I started it was voluntary. I was exempt because I was already an employee. Then the jerk offs got un"fairshare" through. I researched what would work as a religious exemption and went with it and they granted it. Probably because they were spending a lot of time fighting with the non union people that didn't want to be forced to support them. I may have mentioned this before.....I HATE unions.

489 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:54:16am

re: #456 doriangrey
The aliens implanted a chip in your brain? Gee all the best sci-fi stuff says it goes somewhere lower and in back! LOL!

490 unclassifiable  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:54:40am

re: #480 realwest

I think Richardson was Energy Secretary for Clinton when all of the security breaches were happening at Los Alamos.

491 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:55:23am

re: #473 Walter L. Newton

Now, give me the grass roots answer to my question. They are giving all this money away, but, have they set up anything to make sure this will not happen this way again.

And why haven't they even set up the oversight committee to over sight the money they are giving away. It was mandated by law. How can they give money away and have no one keeping track of how the money is really being used.

I don;t know why they have not set up the oversight yet, I'm not in Congress.

My guess is Congress is still trying to figure out what happened. This is not easy stuff to unwind and get your head around, even if you've been managing $100 million investment funds and doing large corporate bond deals for years like I did before I retired. The "mark to market" issue has been partially dealt with. Your question is a good one to send to your Congressmen to answer. They are the ones supposed to be doing it.

I personally would like to see a public website where every day is posted the securities bought and loans made. This needs to be transparent.

492 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:55:31am

re: #489 realwest

The aliens implanted a chip in your brain? Gee all the best sci-fi stuff says it goes somewhere lower and in back! LOL!

So I got abducted by the weird aliens... OK.... I'm obviously a Manchurian musician now...... ;p

493 Big Steve  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:56:09am

re: #488 bbuddha

That makes me feel all warm and tingly. SEIU is the union that I've had to deal with. after I was hired my employer went all union, when I started it was voluntary. I was exempt because I was already an employee. Then the jerk offs got un"fairshare" through. I researched what would work as a religious exemption and went with it and they granted it. Probably because they were spending a lot of time fighting with the non union people that didn't want to be forced to support them. I may have mentioned this before.....I HATE unions.

Well glad to make your day....my favorite quote in the article is “It’s incredible how sympathetic” union management is to the employer’s viewpoint".....in other words they are all for the employees except their own employees.

494 nyc redneck  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:56:28am

re: #474 big steve

If you want to see the epitome of irony you should read this. Employees of a labor union in the Houston area had to ORGANIZE themselves to be treated decently. That's right, these were paid employees of a Union and they had to unionize themselves to be treated right by their employer which was a labor union. Furthermore, the union/employer FOUGHT AGAINST their paid staff organizing and had to file a Labor Board complaint! When Employees of a Union Organize

watch for the 3rd union to form, to control the employees who unionized against the union. it won't stop.

495 itellu3times  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:57:13am

re: #480 realwest

Well, Obama did offer us HOPE - the CHANGE part however, seems to have gone down the memory hole, as so far, except possibly for Napolitano and/or Richardson, every one Obama has appointed has come from the Carter or Clinton administatrations!
Gack and Gag!

Oh, but we already have change, or will as of Jan 20 - a black president! All 0bambi has to do for four years, is bask in his own glow.

But, if you wanted to be an optimist, maybe any kind of activist president is also a change, over the last couple of years of Dubya, who under attack from the world and the Democrats, has hunkered down for the last two years or so, and attempted nothing. Thank the Lord he at least got on with "the surge", before he gave up. So in the end, Bush43 will go out the same way Bush41 did, his greatest sins being those of omission.

496 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:59:12am

re: #478 irongrampa

Good morning, all. For those interested, we may be offering for sale, a well-trained (mostly) black lab, and a Garfield clone cat, if they terrorize another living room. Details may be available at a later date.

How old is the lab? Male or female?

497 3 wood  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:59:25am

I have to get ready for church.

Later.

498 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:59:42am

HUH! Don't know if this has been mentioned out here yet so:

Engineers sentenced to 1 year for espionage case

SAN JOSE, California - Two engineers from China were sentenced to a year in prison Friday for stealing computer chip designs from their Silicon Valley employers and trying to smuggle the secrets to their homeland to launch a government-backed startup there.

Fei Ye, a U.S. citizen, and Ming Zhong, a permanent resident of the U.S., had pleaded guilty in 2006, becoming the first people convicted of the most serious crime under the Economic Espionage Act of 1996. They were accused of trying to benefit China with their stolen chip designs, though prosecutors did not allege that the Chinese government knew of their illegal activities.

Ye and Zhong could have gotten 30 years, but prosecutors asked for less because the men cooperated with investigators. Both engineers apologized in court Friday.

Only a handful of cases have been filed under the Economic Espionage law, mostly because it's difficult to prove someone was trying to benefit a foreign nation, even if investigators suspect it. Prosecutors say the trail of evidence often goes cold because of a lack of cooperation by other countries in investigations.

The case against Ye and Zhong stretches back seven years, when they were arrested at the San Francisco airport trying to board a flight to China. Their luggage was allegedly stuffed with sensitive documents on chip designs stolen from four tech companies they had worked for.

Other papers seized from the men allegedly showed they were trying to solicit funding from Chinese government agencies to help get their startup going. Prosecutors say the documents showed that Ye and Zhong were promoting the startup as something that would elevate China's chip-making smarts and help China compete better against other countries in microelectronics.


[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]
ONE YEAR - when did Bubba get re-elected?!

499 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:01:41am

re: #491 3 wood

I don;t know why they have not set up the oversight yet, I'm not in Congress.

My guess is Congress is still trying to figure out what happened. This is not easy stuff to unwind and get your head around, even if you've been managing $100 million investment funds and doing large corporate bond deals for years like I did before I retired. The "mark to market" issue has been partially dealt with. Your question is a good one to send to your Congressmen to answer. They are the ones supposed to be doing it.

I personally would like to see a public website where every day is posted the securities bought and loans made. This needs to be transparent.

I understand that you don't have control of the idiots in DC. But you really did answer my questions, very well.

My guess is Congress is still trying to figure out what happened.

That nails it for me. They gave 700 billion away (or at least slated that amount for hand outs) and they are still trying to figure out what happened. That's like going into a fire to fight it without know the layout or the contents of the burning building.

This needs to be transparent.

Good luck on that. Paulson has already moved the targets and heavens know what they will do in the future.

La, la, la, la, la, la... we are getting fucked and it doesn't feel good.

500 reine.de.tout  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:02:43am

re: #476 realwest

Good morning reine! Hey that's from Seattle - a/k/a Berkley North - so whaddya expect from them?!
LOL! How are you doing today? How comes the cook book?

Morning, realwest!
Cookbook update here

Several folks involved via e-mail, at least one of whom is traveling the world and working as he can from whereever.

So we're moving - slowly, but it's coming along.

501 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:03:03am

re: #477 n in wi
Hangs head in shame........just trying to throw off the MSM, cause they never go wherever Helen Thomas goes unless they have to!
Turns over decoder ring.......doesn't work anyway and look at this green band around my finger from it!

502 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:03:18am

re: #495 itellu3times

Oh, but we already have change, or will as of Jan 20 - a black president! All 0bambi has to do for four years, is bask in his own glow.

But, if you wanted to be an optimist, maybe any kind of activist president is also a change, over the last couple of years of Dubya, who under attack from the world and the Democrats, has hunkered down for the last two years or so, and attempted nothing. Thank the Lord he at least got on with "the surge", before he gave up. So in the end, Bush43 will go out the same way Bush41 did, his greatest sins being those of omission.

I think it would be nice if our congress would stop "working" and just sit around and do nothing. Would certainly be cheaper.

/spoken by a citizen who still bangs her head against the wall trying to understand this crap.

503 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:04:18am

re: #495 itellu3times

Oh, but we already have change, or will as of Jan 20 - a black president! All 0bambi has to do for four years, is bask in his own glow.

But, if you wanted to be an optimist, maybe any kind of activist president is also a change, over the last couple of years of Dubya, who under attack from the world and the Democrats, has hunkered down for the last two years or so, and attempted nothing. Thank the Lord he at least got on with "the surge", before he gave up. So in the end, Bush43 will go out the same way Bush41 did, his greatest sins being those of omission.

I don't know about that. both Bush presidents did a number on our freedoms. the first violated our rights in the name of fighting the war on drugs. you know the one where the govt can't seize your property without due process...well now they can. the second curtailed our freedome of speech by signing the mccain/feingold abomination. He even said he thought it was unconstitutional but would let the supreme court deal with it. He did take an oath to protect the constitution and he violated it instead.

504 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:04:22am

re: #501 realwest

Hangs head in shame........just trying to throw off the MSM, cause they never go wherever Helen Thomas goes unless they have to!
Turns over decoder ring.......doesn't work anyway and look at this green band around my finger from it!

"Drink more Ovaltine"

505 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:06:07am

re: #487 doriangrey
I'll have to take your word for that, since I neither play nor sing!
But if you show me the on/off buttons I can be the assistant engineer!

506 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:06:52am

re: #502 gettinby

/spoken by a citizen who still bangs her head against the wall trying to understand this crap.

Right there with you. I just wonder why there's no pressure for Congressional term limits?
/hoping that's the most naive thing ever posted....

507 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:07:24am

re: #505 realwest

I'll have to take your word for that, since I neither play nor sing!
But if you show me the on/off buttons I can be the assistant engineer!

As long as it doesn't require a motherboard!

/j/t

508 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:07:30am

re: #505 realwest

I'll have to take your word for that, since I neither play nor sing!
But if you show me the on/off buttons I can be the assistant engineer!

ROTFLMAO..... will that be before or after you call the Geek Squad to come and crash your computer.... ;p

509 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:08:05am

Off to shower and then down to the theatre. We have a 2:00pm matinee today. I'll say it again, it's F'n too early for a Christmas show.

510 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:08:28am

re: #506 hermit
oh PIMF!

/hoping that's NOT the most naive thing ever posted....
511 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:08:42am

re: #492 doriangrey
Ya know, if it wasn't such an OLD reference, the Manchurian Candidates would be a good name for a band!

512 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:08:52am
513 bbuddha  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:09:17am

well off to blow off steam and decimate some targets
have a great day all

514 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:10:21am

re: #511 realwest

Ya know, if it wasn't such an OLD reference, the Manchurian Candidates would be a good name for a band!

Yes, but only old fogies like us would understand the implications.... lol...lol...lol...

515 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:11:03am

Hey Dorian & Real!

What's up today?

516 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:11:05am
517 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:12:20am

re: #515 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Hey Dorian & Real!

What's up today?

Morning vet..... I'm sniveling about not being able to afford to record a CD and real is killing me with suggestion that I record at home....

518 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:12:44am

re: #516 buzzsawmonkey

We already have term limits for every office in the land. They are called "elections."

Yes, and recent experience shows how effective those are....

519 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:13:27am

re: #513 bbuddha

well off to blow off steam and decimate some targets
have a great day all

Here's to tight groups!

Have fun! Hopefully, we'll be able to shoot some next Sunday. Looking forward to it.

520 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:14:08am

re: #517 doriangrey

Wait... why don't you just record it on your computer at home... it's got a mic.

er...

Nevermind.

/I know nothing of recording stuff.

521 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:15:00am

re: #495 itellu3times
Yeah, well I agree with that, except I think W should get some of the credit for the victory in Iraq (as I said on the Victory in Iraq thread yesterday, he held firm and gave our wonderful Troops (and the other Coalition Troops) the chance to win the war and hopefully create a lasting democracy in Iraq) and we've had no more 9/11's on his watch - those are two pretty damn big Pluses in my book.
And as I've said before, regardless of who the President is or from what party, his ability to affect the economy here is somewhat limited and I've always thought that Presidents get too much CREDIT when things are going well and too much CRITICISM when things aren't going well economically.

522 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:15:34am

re: #420 floater

Barack Obama will be the "Disclosure President", unclassifying all US docs relating to UFOs, in conjunction with France, Britain and China ...
John Podesta will assist -- sometime in March 2009

duckiing under my desk- oops - sheepisly getting back up.
March I will duck agian

523 JCM  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:15:55am

re: #513 bbuddha

well off to blow off steam and decimate some targets
have a great day all

I hope you shoot better than that...... ;-)
decimate - original meaning kill one out of every ten.

524 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:16:08am

re: #497 3 wood
Bye 3 wood - hope to see y'all later on!

525 itellu3times  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:16:22am

re: #491 3 wood

I personally would like to see a public website where every day is posted the securities bought and loans made. This needs to be transparent.

Me, too.

But actually, Bloomberg news is suing to get Treasury to release details of loans they are making to banks (OUTSIDE of the $700b), and so far Treasury is stonewalling.

526 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:16:58am

re: #520 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Wait... why don't you just record it on your computer at home... it's got a mic.

er...

Nevermind.

/I know nothing of recording stuff.

Well a) I dont have the thousand plus dollars of midi interface crap, b) dont have the thousand plus dollars of software and c) never could manage to get the hang of sync'ing analog to midi tracks, nor can I program anything even remotely resembling an acceptable drum track.

527 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:17:14am

re: #506 hermit

Right there with you. I just wonder why there's no pressure for Congressional term limits?
/hoping that's NOT the most naive thing ever posted....

(included your PIMF)

The term limits seem successful here in Florida.

Elections should take care of such a problem, but in many cases, the same ol'/same ol' are the only ones running, leaving voters without any real solid choices.

528 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:17:37am

re: #526 doriangrey

So what does studio rental cost?

529 itellu3times  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:18:06am

re: #521 realwest

And as I've said before, regardless of who the President is or from what party, his ability to affect the economy here is somewhat limited and I've always thought that Presidents get too much CREDIT when things are going well and too much CRITICISM when things aren't going well economically.

I agree with that, too.

OTOH, under Obama, no sparrow will fall, but seventeen government bureaucrats approved it in advance.

530 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:19:37am

re: #518 hermit

40 years for some. I can only ding you up once.

531 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:20:03am

re: #528 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

So what does studio rental cost?

MONEY....... Of which I seem to have a chronic shortage.... Actually depends on the studio, crappy studios cost around $30.00 per hour, good studio's around $100.00 per hour, and it takes 10 to 12 hours of studio time per song typically.....

532 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:20:15am

re: #502 gettinby
Hey there - "I think it would be nice if our congress would stop "working" and just sit around and do nothing. Would certainly be cheaper."
And there's precedent for it, too! Congress usually does no work anyway and the economy never seemed the worse for it.
Then Congress created the CRA, Bubba put some teeth in it and voila they created what's called "Subprime morgtages" so that the asshats on Wall street could figure out ways to market the subprime mortgages!

533 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:20:40am

re: #527 gettinby

Elections should take care of such a problem, but in many cases, the same ol'/same ol' are the only ones running, leaving voters without any real solid choices.


That's where buzz was going, too...and I agree. Except for the fact that the Presidential Election has been raised up to look like the Oscars for best actor and few people really know how important congressmen are...Thank you Public Schooling!

534 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:22:18am

re: #531 doriangrey

MONEY....... Of which I seem to have a chronic shortage.... Actually depends on the studio, crappy studios cost around $30.00 per hour, good studio's around $100.00 per hour, and it takes 10 to 12 hours of studio time per song typically.....

Oh, and studio time typically does not include any additional studio musicians, like a drummer, bassist, or keyboardist or back-up vocals. All of whom expect to get paid..... ;(

535 JCM  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:22:20am

re: #532 realwest

Hey there - "I think it would be nice if our congress would stop "working" and just sit around and do nothing. Would certainly be cheaper."
And there's precedent for it, too! Congress usually does no work anyway and the economy never seemed the worse for it.
Then Congress created the CRA, Bubba put some teeth in it and voila they created what's called "Subprime morgtages" so that the asshats on Wall street could figure out ways to market the subprime mortgages!

In '94 Gingrich nationalized the congressional elections with the Contract with America. We need to do the same thing in '10 but the number one item would be no new legislation, number two roll back legislation and spending.

536 notutopia  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:22:23am

Soldier: I never heard about that, Sir.
Col. Edwards: Well, it was covered up by the higher echelon. Take any fire, any earthquake, any major disaster, then wonder. Flying saucers, Captain, are still a rumour. Officially.

— Plan 9 from Outer Space

[Link: www.presidentialufo.com...]

The President Reagan leaned over, clapped Spielberg on the shoulder, and quietly commented, "You know, there aren’t six people in this room who know how true this really is."

Spielberg stated that he had written the E.T. story as fiction based upon facts drawn from various UFO stories that had been told over the years. He must have been very shocked to hear from the President that it was all very true.
( ? )

537 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:23:55am
538 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:24:53am

re: #534 doriangrey

All of whom expect to get paid..... ;(

LOL - you make me think of that old joke:
What's the difference between a professional musician and a large pizza?
-- the pizza can feed a family

539 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:25:38am

re: #538 hermit

LOL - you make me think of that old joke:
What's the difference between a professional musician and a large pizza?
-- the pizza can feed a family

Ouch.............................................. ...

540 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:25:40am

Good news for cross-dressing males! Japan has invented "The Bro!"

541 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:25:41am
542 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:26:09am

OK -

Just saw MITT on CNN and now Gov. Granholm. The "B" word, the "B" word.
Change the word - Conservatorship - begins with a "C" and sounds better though the result will be the same. Ditto the name of the major stock index.
Heard it on WABC 77 AM this morning. "D.O.W." is the first three letters of DOWN. Change the name to "UNIVERSAL PORTFOLIO" - No commentator in their right mind would lead in with "...the UP is down..." Comments?

-S-

543 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:26:59am

re: #532 realwest

Hey there - "I think it would be nice if our congress would stop "working" and just sit around and do nothing. Would certainly be cheaper."
And there's precedent for it, too! Congress usually does no work anyway and the economy never seemed the worse for it.
Then Congress created the CRA, Bubba put some teeth in it and voila they created what's called "Subprime morgtages" so that the asshats on Wall street could figure out ways to market the subprime mortgages!

Could have saved a lot of time and money if they would have just loaned to the subprimes directly from our taxes.

Here a / - just in case.

544 JCM  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:28:08am

re: #536 notutopia

Soldier: I never heard about that, Sir.
Col. Edwards: Well, it was covered up by the higher echelon. Take any fire, any earthquake, any major disaster, then wonder. Flying saucers, Captain, are still a rumour. Officially.

— Plan 9 from Outer Space

[Link: www.presidentialufo.com...]

The President Reagan leaned over, clapped Spielberg on the shoulder, and quietly commented, "You know, there aren’t six people in this room who know how true this really is."

Spielberg stated that he had written the E.T. story as fiction based upon facts drawn from various UFO stories that had been told over the years. He must have been very shocked to hear from the President that it was all very true.
( ? )

Reagan had a sense of humor. He was yanking Spielberg's chain.

545 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:28:12am

re: #534 doriangrey

Oh, and studio time typically does not include any additional studio musicians, like a drummer, bassist, or keyboardist or back-up vocals. All of whom expect to get paid..... ;(

realwest could do motherboardist, and I'll be backup screechist.

Wouldn't cost you anything!

546 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:28:21am

re: #540 Wyatt Earp

Good news for cross-dressing males! Japan has invented "The Bro!"

D'oh! Freetoken already mentioned this. My apologies!

547 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:28:31am

re: #503 bbuddha

I don't know about that. both Bush presidents did a number on our freedoms. the first violated our rights in the name of fighting the war on drugs. you know the one where the govt can't seize your property without due process...well now they can. the second curtailed our freedome of speech by signing the mccain/feingold abomination. He even said he thought it was unconstitutional but would let the supreme court deal with it. He did take an oath to protect the constitution and he violated it instead.

Charles - any way to have a in-between ding down? One for stupid comments. I hesitate to ding anyone down unless it is over the line. Freedom of speech and all that.
If not I will just go back and ding this down.

Come on bbuddha - back at me.

548 akak  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:28:58am

Jihad Terri (Nichols) wants to talk, why would government officials want to stop him?

549 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:29:25am

re: #503 bbuddha
OH fucking PLEASE! No one lost their rights - they can't seize your assets without a warrant which must lay out sufficient facts for a judge to conclude that a) you May Very Well be involved in the Drug Trade b) that those assets were either used in the Drug Trade or c) were acquired with proceeds from the illegal drug trade (Yachts or high speed powerboats or houses or small planes mostly) or d) will become out of reach before they can nail your ass in court.
And as for McCain Feingold, the SCOTUS DID uphold most of the legislation in McConnell v. FEC.
as being constitutional.
Hey how many of y'all out here think that YOUR civil rights were violated under either of the two Bush presidencies?

550 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:29:27am

re: #512 buzzsawmonkey

Manatees are good any time of day, not just at 2 PM.

Oh, wait...

Back from shower.

551 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:29:37am

re: #535 JCM

In '94 Gingrich nationalized the congressional elections with the Contract with America. We need to do the same thing in '10 but the number one item would be no new legislation, number two roll back legislation and spending.

What I would like to see is 50 Contracts. Each state GOP should come up with a contract for their respective electorates that the state republicans can join and start taking back legislative bodies from coast to coast. This would increase the number of elected officials in the pool to groom for higher, national offices.

A new contract for America might be difficult as the republicans have made their word on spending worthless. A contract might help, but other than controlling spending, what else could they pledge?

552 JCM  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:29:39am

re: #545 gettinby

realwest could do motherboardist, and I'll be backup screechist.

Wouldn't cost you anything!

I'll do the background howl!

553 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:30:11am

re: #504 Walter L. Newton
ROTFLMAO!

554 notutopia  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:30:32am

re: #392 realwest

Real Kiss and Hug Mom and tell her Happy Birthday! And also tell her from us, Thank you for birthing you! The world would be a much grimmer place without you.
: )

555 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:31:22am

re: #545 gettinby

realwest could do motherboardist, and I'll be backup screechist.

Wouldn't cost you anything!

Hmmmmmmm....... with an offer like that how could I possibly go wrong? lol...lol...lol...

556 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:31:23am

re: #507 gettinby
Boo, hiss! Oh, wait, you meant a working motherboard, right?
nevermind!

557 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:31:24am

re: #537 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks buzz - I'll agree that complaint is counter-productive. It's just hard to be aware sometimes that the voters on whom we count to keep the system checked are so poorly educated on the process, they become swayable to the marketing.

Wasn't it Jefferson who said something about ignorance and freedom? You can never have both?

558 JCM  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:31:48am

re: #551 Sharmuta

What I would like to see is 50 Contracts. Each state GOP should come up with a contract for their respective electorates that the state republicans can join and start taking back legislative bodies from coast to coast. This would increase the number of elected officials in the pool to groom for higher, national offices.

A new contract for America might be difficult as the republicans have made their word on spending worthless. A contract might help, but other than controlling spending, what else could they pledge?

Roll back legislation. Eliminate and streamline government, positively reaffirm fundamental rights, etc....

559 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:32:05am

re: #553 realwest

ROTFLMAO!

You mind is as sharp and sick as mine.

560 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:32:35am

re: #549 realwest

OH fucking PLEASE! No one lost their rights - they can't seize your assets without a warrant which must lay out sufficient facts for a judge to conclude that a) you May Very Well be involved in the Drug Trade b) that those assets were either used in the Drug Trade or c) were acquired with proceeds from the illegal drug trade (Yachts or high speed powerboats or houses or small planes mostly) or d) will become out of reach before they can nail your ass in court.
And as for McCain Feingold, the SCOTUS DID uphold most of the legislation in McConnell v. FEC.
as being constitutional.
Hey how many of y'all out here think that YOUR civil rights were violated under either of the two Bush presidencies?

As a Philadelphia police detective, I can absolutely verify this. We cannot do any of the above without a search warrant and/or an arrest warrant. And if you think getting either of these is a walk in the park, you're watching too much Law & Order.

561 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:32:47am

re: #558 JCM

It needs to be more specific than that. Too vague and it's pointless.

562 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:33:14am

re: #552 JCM

I'll do the background howl!

Oh dear... What have I started.... I sure hope Charles doesnt see this......... ;O

563 notutopia  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:33:29am

re: #544 JCM

; ) I have a sense of humour too, after my third cup of cafe au' lait.
How are you this bright and COLD morn?

564 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:33:30am

re: #515 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey my friend - well Dorian's joining the hair club for Men and I'm gonna be the Assistant engineer on his next CD - provided we have a working motherboard! LOL!
How are you today?

565 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:33:32am

re: #539 doriangrey

Ouch.................................... .............

Ohh, sorry - that was so completely NOT personal. I have several friends who are professional musicians, they just can't afford to do it as a profession.
/you need a band-aid....ice pack?

566 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:33:50am

re: #541 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, if Congressional District X is happy with its same ol' same ol' representative, who are we to say that they are wrong, unless we live in Congressional District X?

Very true, and I'm not ever going to be one to try to debate the greater minds here (that's a very huge compliment to you, by the way).

When I typed that, my thoughts were with the voters in districts for the MurthaKerryKennedy-types.

And, well, yes...Republicans seem to either be (a) on the dole for any leftovers from the dems; or (b) caught up in looking at each leaf instead of the entire tree.

567 itellu3times  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:34:34am

Typical MSM travesty on the Sunday shows, Tom Brokaw wasting time and energy attempting to play gotcha with Joe Lieberman, who is being very diplomatic in return. Hey, how about Joe for SOS?

So why am I watching NBC? Cuz Axelrod was the lead guest on both Fox and ABC, and who wants to see that?

568 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:34:38am

Dorian,

Beyond the "gotta break some eggs" advice, I don't know what to tell you. I'm lucky, when I get the hankering to do some of my design work, all I need is a computer with software I've already spent the money on and a little quiet.

But none of this matters since our best use for the collective is in the mine, right comrade?

569 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:35:06am

re: #559 Walter L. Newton

You mind is as sharp and sick as mine.

That bad, eh? Sorry.

570 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:35:37am

re: #565 hermit

Ohh, sorry - that was so completely NOT personal. I have several friends who are professional musicians, they just can't afford to do it as a profession.
/you need a band-aid....ice pack?

ROTFLMAO........... No worries.... I sooo resembled that joke for almost 20 years.....

571 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:35:57am

re: #561 Sharmuta

It needs to be more specific than that. Too vague and it's pointless.

Morning Sunshine. I just wanted to say hi. I'm off to the theatre is a few minutes. Sun. afternoon matinee at 2. Next year I think we should start or Christmas show in Aug. (f'n too early for Christmas)

572 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:36:33am

re: #571 Walter L. Newton

Hi, Walter. Good luck at the theatre!

573 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:36:37am

re: #526 doriangrey
Ooh, ooh, I can "I program anything even remotely resembling an acceptable drum track."
Here, listen, whaddya think:.......................? Pretty good, hey?
GOOD drummers are literally worth their weight in gold.

574 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:36:40am

re: #564 realwest

Hey my friend - well Dorian's joining the hair club for Men and I'm gonna be the Assistant engineer on his next CD - provided we have a working motherboard! LOL!
How are you today?

Doing well... I have a few minutes to myself before the wife forces me to go work a concession booth at the Uof I basketball game to raise money for our HS baseball team.

575 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:37:21am

re: #562 doriangrey

Oh dear... What have I started.... I sure hope Charles doesnt see this......... ;O

Hey boss, da plane...da plane, boss, da plane!

576 FrogMarch  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:37:28am

Good day all.

Eric Holder Caught on Tape Defending the FALN Terrorist Pardons

well well well.

577 JCM  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:37:34am

re: #560 Wyatt Earp

As a Philadelphia police detective, I can absolutely verify this. We cannot do any of the above without a search warrant and/or an arrest warrant. And if you think getting either of these is a walk in the park, you're watching too much Law & Order.

The exception being the IRS, they can put a lien on property administratively, not judicially. Most tax districts can do that. In fact they can seize property for a few thousand owed, sell the property for full value and keep the balance.

578 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:37:37am

re: #570 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO........... No worries.... I sooo resembled that joke for almost 20 years.....

You have to be totally poor before you can make a living in entertainment. Those who do will understand.

579 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:37:46am

For the "WTF File", I bring you this, an acquaintance of mine, who has become a raving moonbat and Obamamaniac said last night: "Jesus was a Socialist."
(Keep in mind, this from a guy not too long ago was decrying religion.) He also went on a long tirade about Marx being a sane and wise fellow, while Thomas Friedman was a nut job. I had to excuse myself from the conversation before I started throwing silverware.

580 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:38:04am

re: #568 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Dorian,

Beyond the "gotta break some eggs" advice, I don't know what to tell you. I'm lucky, when I get the hankering to do some of my design work, all I need is a computer with software I've already spent the money on and a little quiet.

But none of this matters since our best use for the collective is in the mine, right comrade?

lol...lol... True but damn, using my axe as a shovel isn't getting much coal dug and aint helping my playing in the slightest.... ;p

581 Alouette  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:38:20am

I just received an invitation to my father's 90th birthday party. My husband (to whom I have been married for 37 years) was not invited.

Let the mother-in-law jokes begin!

582 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:38:46am

re: #527 gettinby
Yeah and incumbants have waay too much going for them - especially those FREE mailings to their constitutents telling 'em what thier Congresscritter has done for them.
I dibs 3 year terms for the House, no more than 3 terms in a row and two 6 year terms for Senators, in a row.

583 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:39:05am

re: #577 JCM

The exception being the IRS, they can put a lien on property administratively, not judicially. Most tax districts can do that. In fact they can seize property for a few thousand owed, sell the property for full value and keep the balance.

Correct!

584 Lincolntf  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:39:10am

re: #549 realwest

I'm somewhat looking forward to having a similar discussion at Thanksgiving with my in-laws. For years now, they've been consumed with anti-Bush hysteria. I can't wait to ask them how many times their Rights have been violated in the 8 years he's been in Office. Bush has done pretty much NOTHING that all the hysterics claimed he would do regarding everything from homosexuals and abortion to padding the wallets of his "cronies" in big oil. I can't wait to point out how imaginary all of their fears are/were.

585 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:40:26am

re: #573 realwest

Ooh, ooh, I can "I program anything even remotely resembling an acceptable drum track."
Here, listen, whaddya think:.......................? Pretty good, hey?
GOOD drummers are literally worth their weight in gold.

Dont I know it.....

586 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:40:30am

re: #584 Lincolntf

I'm somewhat looking forward to having a similar discussion at Thanksgiving with my in-laws. For years now, they've been consumed with anti-Bush hysteria. I can't wait to ask them how many times their Rights have been violated in the 8 years he's been in Office. Bush has done pretty much NOTHING that all the hysterics claimed he would do regarding everything from homosexuals and abortion to padding the wallets of his "cronies" in big oil. I can't wait to point out how imaginary all of their fears are/were.

My big argument was always "Of this is a war for oil, why are we getting hosed at the gas pumps?" The libs usually didn't have an answer for that.

587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:40:44am

re: #580 doriangrey

The collective will only tolerate your little hobby as long as it doesn't hurt your work in the mine.

(apologies to October Sky)

588 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:40:49am

"If"

PIMF

589 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:41:47am

Be back after 5:00pm mountain time. Play nice.

590 notutopia  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:41:58am

re: #581 Alouette
Good Mornin Alouette.
Why was your husband not included in the invite?
?

591 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:41:59am

re: #578 Walter L. Newton

You have to be totally poor before you can make a living in entertainment. Those who do will understand.

Say, would that qualify my teaching job as entertainment? (the kids might agree!LOL) I gave up on making a living. In fact I make one half what I did 10 years ago and less than what I made 18 years ago. It's good for the hermit philosophy, though.

592 JCM  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:42:12am

re: #583 Wyatt Earp

Correct!

There's a winning issue for congress, hold IRS seizures to the same judicial standards as LE. Let 'em garnish wages, but not seize property.

593 Lincolntf  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:42:33am

re: #586 Wyatt Earp

Nor do they realize that the entities that DID profit mightily (in my view crookedly) over the last couple years were Liberal joints like Fannie Mae, Big education, public employees unions and soon the UAW.

594 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:42:48am

re: #587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The collective will only tolerate your little hobby as long as it doesn't hurt your work in the mine.

(apologies to October Sky)

So I have learned......

595 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:42:59am

re: #582 realwest

That was my thought - 12 years max regardless.

596 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:43:31am

So, 24 starts tonight (damn basketball game better be over with by then)...

Which group of non-muslim terrorists is Jack Bauer oppressing this season?

597 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:44:16am
598 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:44:17am

re: #582 realwest

Yeah and incumbants have waay too much going for them - especially those FREE mailings to their constitutents telling 'em what thier Congresscritter has done for them.
I dibs 3 year terms for the House, no more than 3 terms in a row and two 6 year terms for Senators, in a row.

Excellent proposal!

/kinda reminds me of my marriage terms. LOL

599 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:44:19am

re: #593 Lincolntf

Nor do they realize that the entities that DID profit mightily (in my view crookedly) over the last couple years were Liberal joints like Fannie Mae, Big education, public employees unions and soon the UAW.


Whatever happened to Fannie Mae? Heh.

600 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:44:36am

re: #578 Walter L. Newton

You have to be totally poor before you can make a living in entertainment. Those who do will understand.

Been there..... Done that..... Had to get a real job to afford my vette..... Which technically speaking I can barley afford... Cant afford a new windshield for it right now, must scrip and save for it.... ;(

601 rain of lead  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:45:15am

hey guys,
it's football sunday.
Titans vs Jets at home.... whoo hoo! ! !
can you say 11-0?
I knew that you could. :)

602 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:45:22am

re: #596 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

LOL! how about Boris and Natasha?

603 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:45:49am

re: #554 notutopia Whoa!
That's one of the nicest things anyone's ever said about me!

HEY ALL Y'ALL could someone please upding #554 - I feel funny doing it myself!

604 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:46:12am

re: #602 hermit

LOL! how about Boris and Natasha?

Na, Boris would so kick Jack's ass........

605 irongrampa  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:46:36am

re: #496 gettinby

She's 8 years old, this january, got her when she was just 8 weeks old. Dumb shit is the light of my life, after the wife.

606 rawmuse  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:46:58am

Good morning Lizards!
Dorian, for home recording, I use a bluetooth keyboard (wireless) that I put right on my music stand. I hit the space bar to put it in Record mode. I give myself a good lead-in time (8 or 16 clicks) to get ready. It works pretty good up to about 10 feet away, depending on the newness of the batteries.

607 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:47:02am
608 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:47:33am

re: #602 hermit

LOL! how about Boris and Natasha?

Russians and Serbs (blond hair, blue eyes to be sure) have been done to death, along with European Nazis. (All using innocent Muslims as dupes).

This time looks to be in Africa. Hope the story is better than last season, I actually lost interest partway through and it is about the only non-news show I watch.

609 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:47:40am

re: #603 realwest

Whoa!
That's one of the nicest things anyone's ever said about me!

HEY ALL Y'ALL could someone please upding #554 - I feel funny doing it myself!

ROTFLMAO......... Done... sheesh the things I'll do for my motherboardist..... ;p

610 Truck Monkey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:48:07am

re: #601 rain of lead

hey guys,
it's football sunday.
Titans vs Jets at home.... whoo hoo! ! !
can you say 11-0?
I knew that you could. :)

I think that the Jets win today. I also thought that we would be talking about President elect McCain at this point too, so take it for what it's worth.

611 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:48:09am

re: #577 JCM

The exception being the IRS, they can put a lien on property administratively, not judicially. Most tax districts can do that. In fact they can seize property for a few thousand owed, sell the property for full value and keep the balance.

The IRS is NEVER to be messed with. Since they got -was it Al Capone -on tax evasion?

612 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:48:28am

re: #608 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

This time looks to be in Africa.


/RACISTS!

613 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:48:36am

re: #560 Wyatt Earp
Thanks Wyatt. I'm just sick to death of hearing people saying how much we've lost of our "rights" under either of the Bush presidencies.

614 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:48:50am

re: #608 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Russians and Serbs (blond hair, blue eyes to be sure) have been done to death, along with European Nazis. (All using innocent Muslims as dupes).

This time looks to be in Africa. Hope the story is better than last season, I actually lost interest partway through and it is about the only non-news show I watch.

It's exactly why I will never watch "The Sum of All Fears." First, Ben Affleck is in it, and I despise him. Second, the director changed the Muslim terrorists to "Neo-Nazis." Pass.

615 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:48:50am

re: #606 rawmuse

Good morning Lizards!
Dorian, for home recording, I use a bluetooth keyboard (wireless) that I put right on my music stand. I hit the space bar to put it in Record mode. I give myself a good lead-in time (8 or 16 clicks) to get ready. It works pretty good up to about 10 feet away, depending on the newness of the batteries.

And how exactly do you program a drum tract that doesnt sound like a click track?

616 Alouette  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:49:08am

re: #590 notutopia

Good Mornin Alouette.
Why was your husband not included in the invite?
?

My mother hates him.

617 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:50:04am

re: #613 realwest

Thanks Wyatt. I'm just sick to death of hearing people saying how much we've lost of our "rights" under either of the Bush presidencies.

It has been my exxperience that the reverse is actually true. It is much more difficult for detectives (at least in Philly) to land search/arrest warrants now than it was before 2000.

618 irongrampa  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:50:10am

Either I gotta monitor this thread or log off, multi-tasking today is apparently not in my repretoire.
Sorry for the delay, gettinby.

619 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:50:41am

re: #609 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO......... Done... sheesh the things I'll do for my motherboardist..... ;p


Well dorian, y'know -- If it's not one thing it's your mother...board.
/ducks back into cave "No hitting! No hitting!"

620 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:50:41am

re: #612 hermit

/RACISTS!

Probably. Jack will come to the conclusion that General [insert Africa Thug Dictator Name Here] is just misunderstood and a tool of some right-wing coup plotter on our president's staff.

621 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:51:52am

re: #579 baxtrice
Hope you were able to get out quick.

/change we can belive in

622 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:52:07am
623 rawmuse  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:52:10am

re: #615 doriangrey

I actually play some pretty acceptable drums. I have a drum set, pre-miked set up in the studio permanently. Generally I get some good drummers to come over and play them in exchange for me going over to their place and playing some tracks for them.

But, for synthesized tracks, I use a Korg whatever and lay down some "place holder" drum tracks that are later muted when the real drummer comes over. I never use a click anymore.

624 Shay4l  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:52:36am

re: #581 Alouette

I just received an invitation to my father's 90th birthday party. My husband (to whom I have been married for 37 years) was not invited.

Let the mother-in-law jokes begin!

You HAVE to call and ask "What can my husband and I bring?"

625 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:53:16am

re: #577 JCM
Good moring my friend - one correction - the IRS, after selling an asset and getting paid in full (which is usually DOUBLE the amount owed) MUST give the taxpayer any money left over - but they get to tax it again as income!

626 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:53:18am

re: #620 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Probably. Jack will come to the conclusion that General [insert Africa Thug Dictator Name Here] is just misunderstood and a tool of some right-wing coup plotter on our president's staff.

Can't wait until someone really "goes for it" and makes that individual a Christian.
Oh wait, isn't Catholic the new Black?

627 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:53:39am

re: #581 Alouette

I just received an invitation to my father's 90th birthday party. My husband (to whom I have been married for 37 years) was not invited.

Let the mother-in-law jokes begin!

She will be punished for that some day. Karma rules.

628 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:54:18am

re: #623 rawmuse

I actually play some pretty acceptable drums. I have a drum set, pre-miked set up in the studio permanently. Generally I get some good drummers to come over and play them in exchange for me going over to their place and playing some tracks for them.

But, for synthesized tracks, I use a Korg whatever and lay down some "place holder" drum tracks that are later muted when the real drummer comes over. I never use a click anymore.

Sigh.... I dont have any of that fancy midi gear.... Cant afford it.... And my main computer is down, cant seem to find the enthusiasm to fix it.....

629 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:54:36am
630 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:54:49am

re: #581 Alouette Hey, take your husband with you anyway. It's only right, imo!

631 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:54:56am

Well... off to go sell sodas to the world's fattest basketball fans. :-(

632 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:55:56am

re: #630 realwest

Hey, take your husband with you anyway. It's only right, imo!

And make sure he gets good and ripped and makes a complete ass out of himself..... ;)

633 rawmuse  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:56:16am

re: #628 doriangrey

Sigh.... I dont have any of that fancy midi gear.... Cant afford it.... And my main computer is down, cant seem to find the enthusiasm to fix it.....

Well, you have a 'vette and I don't.
Seriously, when you get some change, go buy a Mac Mini. It has Garage Band pre-installed. It is amazing what you can do with just that. If you don't need 24 bit recording, it works great.

634 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:56:31am

re: #626 hermit

Can't wait until someone really "goes for it" and makes that individual a Christian.
Oh wait, isn't Catholic the new Black?

It is? Sweet! Where are my reparations?

635 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:56:31am

re: #605 irongrampa

She's 8 years old, this january, got her when she was just 8 weeks old. Dumb shit is the light of my life, after the wife.

Oh. The reason I asked is that most labs (as you probably know) remain insubordinate puppies until about 2 years old. Thought that might be your problem.

/Since it's not, then let's just blame the cat! LOL

636 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:57:07am

re: #621 LindaMarie

Hope you were able to get out quick.

/change we can belive in

You can't argue with moonbats. There's no reason or logic to be had with them. When he started in on the "the utopian ideals of socialism" and how it's "never been truly tried". I knew better than to open my mouth, it's like arguing with 5 year olds.

I just want to know why this is happening. Also, I'm a Christian, 2 months ago, this acquaintance was ridiculing me for my beliefs NOW he's using Jesus for his political ideology? That's pretty pathetic.

637 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:57:09am

re: #625 realwest

Good moring my friend - one correction - the IRS, after selling an asset and getting paid in full (which is usually DOUBLE the amount owed) MUST give the taxpayer any money left over - but they get to tax it again as income!

That's good to know about the IRS, I know a lot of local taxing districts don't have to do that.

638 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:57:59am

re: #615 doriangrey

And how exactly do you program a drum tract that doesnt sound like a click track?

/turn the bass up?

639 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:58:07am

re: #633 rawmuse

Well, you have a 'vette and I don't.
Seriously, when you get some change, go buy a Mac Mini. It has Garage Band pre-installed. It is amazing what you can do with just that. If you don't need 24 bit recording, it works great.

ROTFLMAO..... Maybe some generous benevolent Lizard will donate one to me..... Then all I will need is someone who knows how to use it.... ;p

640 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:58:48am

re: #634 Wyatt Earp

It is? Sweet! Where are my reparations?

ROFLMAO!
I think the Romans are still debating....I'll check and get back to you LOL!

641 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:59:19am

re: #638 gettinby

/turn the bass up?

Ummm, how do I program a bass line again?

642 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 8:59:28am

re: #584 Lincolntf

I'm somewhat looking forward to having a similar discussion at Thanksgiving with my in-laws. For years now, they've been consumed with anti-Bush hysteria. I can't wait to ask them how many times their Rights have been violated in the 8 years he's been in Office. Bush has done pretty much NOTHING that all the hysterics claimed he would do regarding everything from homosexuals and abortion to padding the wallets of his "cronies" in big oil. I can't wait to point out how imaginary all of their fears are/were.

Hush - be cool - wait a year. There is no Obama history yet.
Next year there will be, and then we will see. I honestly hope he does well, it would be better for all of us. I don't beleive this will happen, yet refuse to write the US off as a lost cause.

643 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:00:10am
644 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:00:51am

re: #641 doriangrey

Ummm, how do I program a bass line again?

/excuse me.
//back to being a burpist.

645 2by2  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:02:21am

re: #622 buzzsawmonkey

As I mentioned a few days ago, I am convinced that the two black Presidents on "24" were instrumental in laying groundwork acceptance for the Obama candidacy. Make of that what you will.

morning buzz,
I agree and would volunteer that the black president (Morgan Freeman) in Deep Impact was even more instrumental in doing that. Somehow I'm starting to believe in the prophetic powers of Hollywood.......

646 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:02:27am

re: #609 doriangrey
Thank you dorian - and that's "Assistant Engineer" to you!
(I can see I'm gonna have to be careful reviewing the liner note credits on this album!)!

647 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:03:00am

re: #643 buzzsawmonkey

Thomas Friedman (self-appointed Middle East Wise Man and all-around idiot at the New York Times) or Milton Friedman (late conservative economist)?

The acquaintance said Thomas Friedman, and it seems I failed to correct. Aha! I would be a horrible Editor! Also, that makes my acquaintance look like an idiot, *snicker*.

648 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:04:30am

re: #636 baxtrice

My boss recently had a similar confrontation with a co-worker's husband. He insisted that Jesus would have been all for Universal Health Care and socialist programs. He tried to get her to cite something in scripture to refute him. She could not.

When she told me about it the next day, I said she should have challenged him to cite the positive. There is nothing in what I know of the gospels giving evidence of supporting socialist-style policies or programs.

649 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:04:34am

re: #646 realwest

Thank you dorian - and that's "Assistant Engineer" to you!
(I can see I'm gonna have to be careful reviewing the liner note credits on this album!)!

Holy crap... I can foresee royalty negotiations with you are going to be murder....

650 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:05:32am

re: #628 doriangrey
Huh, maybe your main computer needs a new motherboard?!
/ducks!

651 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:06:19am

re: #648 hermit

My boss recently had a similar confrontation with a co-worker's husband. He insisted that Jesus would have been all for Universal Health Care and socialist programs. He tried to get her to cite something in scripture to refute him. She could not.

When she told me about it the next day, I said she should have challenged him to cite the positive. There is nothing in what I know of the gospels giving evidence of supporting socialist-style policies or programs.

Cough "Render unto Caesar" cough.... Not exactly a shining endorsement of socialism.....

652 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:06:32am

re: #641 doriangrey

Ummm, how do I program a bass line again?

Don't bother trying.
"All your bass are belong to us."
Mwuuuhahahahaha!

653 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:06:50am

re: #650 realwest

Huh, maybe your main computer needs a new motherboard?!
/ducks!

ROTFLMAO..... Power supply actually.....

654 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:07:15am

re: #652 hermit

Don't bother trying.
"All your bass are belong to us."
Mwuuuhahahahaha!

DOH............................

655 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:07:32am

Cheerleaders' parents sue in nude photos incident

Parents of two Bothell High School cheerleaders have sued the Northshore School District, alleging school officials erred when they suspended the girls from the team this year after nude photos of them circulated throughout the student body via text message.


Mom, Dad, question for you two. Why did the girls you raised think it might be a good idea to take their clothes off and let pictures be taken?
Jus' Askin'

656 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:07:45am

re: #603 realwest
Done - for your Mom and you.

657 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:08:05am

re: #637 jcm
Yes indeed! But don't overlook that the IRS can and will tax those "excess" proceeds as income to you and will look to nail your butt if you don't file on time! LOL!

658 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:08:46am

re: #653 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO..... Power supply actually.....

...new Hamster Wheel?
/beep-beep! zip-tang! {smoke puff}

659 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:08:59am

re: #648 hermit

My boss recently had a similar confrontation with a co-worker's husband. He insisted that Jesus would have been all for Universal Health Care and socialist programs. He tried to get her to cite something in scripture to refute him. She could not.

When she told me about it the next day, I said she should have challenged him to cite the positive. There is nothing in what I know of the gospels giving evidence of supporting socialist-style policies or programs.

See, I don't know of anything either that would support "socialism". Jesus didn't teach politics or government philosophy (if anything he taught us to follow what government we are in 'render to Caesar what is Caesar's'), so for me, that whole line of thinking makes me want to scream. The acquaintance spouted off something like "pooling resources and taking care of each other equals socialism". Weak evidence if you ask me.

660 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:09:55am

re: #651 doriangrey

Cough "Render unto Caesar" cough.... Not exactly a shining endorsement of socialism.....

GMTA!

661 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:09:57am

re: #642 LindaMarie

Next year there will be, and then we will see. I honestly hope he does well, it would be better for all of us. I don't beleive this will happen, yet refuse to write the US off as a lost cause.


Well we know you're not a Democrat! If there's a Republican in the WH, the Dems look at everything that's bad for America as good for them.

662 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:11:18am
663 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:13:12am

re: #659 baxtrice

See, I don't know of anything either that would support "socialism". Jesus didn't teach politics or government philosophy (if anything he taught us to follow what government we are in 'render to Caesar what is Caesar's'), so for me, that whole line of thinking makes me want to scream. The acquaintance spouted off something like "pooling resources and taking care of each other equals socialism". Weak evidence if you ask me.

The church in Acts, briefly tried that, not Jesus. It don't work. The Pilgrims at Jamestown tried that and it didn't work. Jesus had zero to say on political structure of society.

664 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:13:23am

re: #624 Shay4l

Perfect and priceless
I will remember this should the occasion ever come up. Hoping not.

665 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:14:16am

re: #649 doriangrey
Royalty negotiations don't have to be murder with me, just let me play rhythm guitar, bass and one of those electronic drum pads, sing back up harmonies and give me 75% of the royalties and I'll throw in repping you as an attorney for free when we negotiate with the record/video companies!

666 gettinby  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:15:21am

re: #665 realwest

Royalty negotiations don't have to be murder with me, just let me play rhythm guitar, bass and one of those electronic drum pads, sing back up harmonies and give me 75% of the royalties and I'll throw in repping you as an attorney for free when we negotiate with the record/video companies!

I'll be his hairdresser.

/Oh...wait...didn't I hear that he's bald?
//nevermind.

Off for now! Have a great day everyone.

667 2by2  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:16:23am

re: #662 buzzsawmonkey
"I am merely saying that the Obama campaign, which kept up a steady drumbeat of How Historic it would be to Elect a Black Man to the White House, was materially helped in this essentially racist aspect of its campaign by the groundwork laid in popular culture."
that's where reality and fiction apparently intersect, maybe I should have put a sarc tag on my previous comment?
Anyway, as always I appreciate the depth of your thinking/comments.

668 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:17:03am

re: #659 baxtrice

The acquaintance spouted off something like "pooling resources and taking care of each other equals socialism".

And there is the great flaw. The law under which I live will always be stricter than the law of the land. It does not ever need to become the law of the land because I am already bound by it. If others do not want to accept the law under which I live, I cannot force them by legislating it in the land!

Just because I prefer to use an umbrella does not mean you can't stand in the rain if you want -- Even if it means you'll get sick. I should never be able force you to buy and carry an umbrella.
/IMnsHO

669 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:18:04am

re: #665 realwest

Royalty negotiations don't have to be murder with me, just let me play rhythm guitar, bass and one of those electronic drum pads, sing back up harmonies and give me 75% of the royalties and I'll throw in repping you as an attorney for free when we negotiate with the record/video companies!

Oy vay.... You want I should give you the gold in my teeth too?

670 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:18:20am

re: #663 jcm

The church in Acts, briefly tried that, not Jesus. It don't work. The Pilgrims at Jamestown tried that and it didn't work. Jesus had zero to say on political structure of society.

Yeah, I totally agree, I've never read anything in the Gospels that would be equivalent to what my acquaintance was spouting last night.

671 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:19:30am

re: #655 jcm Uh, as I said somewhere upthread, that's in Seattle - a/k/a Berkley North.
Actually, reading the stories, I found that the taking of the photos wasn't such a big deal when the cheerleaders NEVER thought they'd get around the school (and who knows where else); just three stupid young girls.
But I loved the line about the football players being ordered to delete the photos from their cell phones! LOL!

672 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:20:18am

re: #668 hermit

And there is the great flaw. The law under which I live will always be stricter than the law of the land. It does not ever need to become the law of the land because I am already bound by it. If others do not want to accept the law under which I live, I cannot force them by legislating it in the land!

Just because I prefer to use an umbrella does not mean you can't stand in the rain if you want -- Even if it means you'll get sick. I should never be able force you to buy and carry an umbrella.
/IMnsHO

Ahh Free Will, music to my ears. (both the concept and the song by Rush *winks*)

673 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:20:34am

re: #645 2by2
I don't agree but might be convinced if you have valid statements.
Mind this is to someone who has never watched either, so I may not be too hard to convince.
Where they good persons and role models?

674 Lincolntf  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:21:48am

re: #642 LindaMarie

Yeah, I suppose we'll end up comparing what Obama "Will Do" versus what Bush "Did Not Do".
Either way, I leave the hysterical hyperbole to the Liberals. No matter what Obama does, I'll never be one-tenth as mindlessly critical of him as the anti-Bush jackanapes.

675 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:21:51am

re: #656 LindaMarie
Thank you very much - that comment put SUCH a smile on Mom's face - best birthday present she coulda received!

676 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:22:25am

re: #670 baxtrice

Yeah, I totally agree, I've never read anything in the Gospels that would be equivalent to what my acquaintance was spouting last night.

He did speak to me, as an individual taking care of widows and orphans. An outcome of the Christian life should be Christ's compassion in us taking care of those less fortunate. No where is there the compulsion by the state to do so.

677 2by2  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:22:28am

re: #673 LindaMarie

Morgan Freeman kind of saved the world/US in Deep Impact

678 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:23:41am

re: #671 realwest

Uh, as I said somewhere upthread, that's in Seattle - a/k/a Berkley North.
Actually, reading the stories, I found that the taking of the photos wasn't such a big deal when the cheerleaders NEVER thought they'd get around the school (and who knows where else); just three stupid young girls.
But I loved the line about the football players being ordered to delete the photos from their cell phones! LOL!

I'd take the position with my girls, you did something dumb. You now have to live with the fallout. Maybe next time you'll think before acting.

But sue the school? give me a break.

679 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:23:43am

re: #666 gettinby
See ya {gettinby} - have a great day!

680 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:24:25am

re: #672 baxtrice

Yeah. Me too. I'm just gettin' a little tired of people who try to say that my dryness under the umbrella hurts their precious self-esteem by making them look "all wet" and then trying to tell me when I can and can't use my umbrella. I just want to keep my right to my umbrella, dammit!

681 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:24:33am

re: #676 jcm

He did speak to me, as an individual taking care of widows and orphans. An outcome of the Christian life should be Christ's compassion in us taking care of those less fortunate. No where is there the compulsion by the state to do so.

My philosophy has always been, it's not charity when you are forced to give. It should come from a compassionate and giving heart, not one that has been made to do it out of necessity.

682 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:25:57am

re: #668 hermit
Excellent post - though, of course, as with smoking, diet and the like the health care costs of one who chooses NOT to use an umbrella will always be cited as reasons for legislation and the wasting of our police forces' time and clogging the courts.

683 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:27:03am

re: #680 hermit

Yeah. Me too. I'm just gettin' a little tired of people who try to say that my dryness under the umbrella hurts their precious self-esteem by making them look "all wet" and then trying to tell me when I can and can't use my umbrella. I just want to keep my right to my umbrella, dammit!

I think you would find this quite amusing and a little sad.

684 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:27:06am

re: #669 doriangrey
No, of course not - uh, didja get to keep the gold filliings when they pulled 'em?!
Just wondering!

685 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:27:22am

James Madison -
"Religion flourishes in greater purity, without than with the aid of Government."
AMEN.

686 SummerSong  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:27:37am

re: #572 Sharmuta

Hi, Walter. Good luck at the theatre!

Ack! Better to say break a leg. :)

687 baxtrice  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:27:49am

Well ladies and gentleman, have a wonderful Sunday afternoon. I'm off to make Sunday lunch for the family. See you later.

688 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:28:00am

re: #684 realwest

No, of course not - uh, didja get to keep the gold filliings when they pulled 'em?!
Just wondering!

/GLARE...... Quit looking at my poor teeth...... lol...lol...lol...

689 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:28:24am

re: #681 baxtrice

My philosophy has always been, it's not charity when you are forced to give. It should come from a compassionate and giving heart, not one that has been made to do it out of necessity.

Not to brag, but around work I'm know as the ultra right winger.....
It shocks them to find out I do foster care, that we had a woman and child who's husband abandoned them live with us for a year. Such things don't fit the stereotype of greedy, selfish right wingers.

690 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:29:02am

re: #687 baxtrice

Blessing on your day! and your family!

691 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:29:37am

re: #681 baxtrice
Indeed - seems to me that "Forced Charity" is an oxymoron.

692 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:30:48am

re: #689 jcm

ROFL! - that's totally precious.
Now, get back in your pigeonhole, or else! Haha

693 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:32:05am

re: #680 hermit
I will write you a note and sign it as Mom.

This is his umbrella and He may keep this umbrella.
Sincerely
Mom

This is not sarc

694 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:32:34am

re: #691 realwest

Indeed - seems to me that "Forced Charity" is an oxymoron.

Yeah, and now our government is poised to "Rob Peter to pay Barabbas."

695 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:34:01am

re: #683 baxtrice
You really can't go wrong linking to a Bill Whittle essay!
And it's SO SPOT ON. And afaik, sexual harassment laws are the ONLY laws in our country where you are guilty until you can prove you're innocent!

696 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:34:07am

re: #692 hermit

ROFL! - that's totally precious.
Now, get back in your pigeonhole, or else! Haha

I revel in my bitter clinginess!

697 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:34:31am

re: #693 LindaMarie

Thank you most kindly! I will safety pin it to my shoulder!

And bless you - I haven't had a mom for 23 years and I still miss those motherly moments!

698 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:34:57am

re: #677 2by2

Did not see the movie. Was it a movie in theaters on an on TV show?

699 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:36:52am

re: #696 jcm

I revel in my bitter clinginess!

Hey you! I said get back in there...! MMMPPFF...!
/ *stuff* *stuff* "aahhchooo! damn pigeon feathers!" *stuff* *stuff*

700 LindaMarie  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:38:13am

re: #680 hermit
Keep your umbrella and if they don't like it so who cares.
We all have our own umbrellas.

701 2by2  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:38:48am

re: #698 LindaMarie

Movie, around 97/98 I'd say,
syn(very short version) world's threatened by an asteroid, extinction etc, pres makes the right choice and sends some astronauts to throw the asteroid of course, doesn't work, but it breaks apart, so world's saved, but scarred.

702 Sharmuta  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:39:38am

re: #597 buzzsawmonkey

Sounds good to me- when do we start?

703 jcm  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:41:09am

re: #699 hermit

Hey you! I said get back in there...! MMMPPFF...!
/ *stuff* *stuff* "aahhchooo! damn pigeon feathers!" *stuff* *stuff*

ROFL!

704 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:41:26am

re: #700 LindaMarie

Thank you. Thankfully, mine doubles as a "sharp-edged sword" when required.

And I will defend our right to keep them (or choose against them) against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

705 Lincolntf  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:41:58am

Time to go watch football. Go Pats!

See you folks later.

706 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:42:42am
707 ladycatnip  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:42:57am
Col. Edwards: Well, it was covered up by the higher echelon. Take any fire, any earthquake, any major disaster, then wonder. Flying saucers, Captain, are still a rumour. Officially.

Speaking of covering up - this video is chilling how the media got the O elected. Not sure if Charles has already posted this, but it's good for another repeat.

708 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:44:13am

re: #704 hermit

Thank you. Thankfully, mine doubles as a "sharp-edged sword" when required.

And I will defend our right to keep them (or choose against them) against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Shame that it seems we have more of the domestic variety of late....

709 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:44:19am
710 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:45:24am

re: #702 Sharmuta

Sounds good to me- when (or where?) do we start?

Good Morning, Sharmuta! May I recommend the GOP develop an interest in the education system?
/ sorry I had to run the other day...my boss called!

711 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:45:55am

re: #709 buzzsawmonkey

Were I head of the Republican Party, that is what I would be doing now. Not being in any way a party functionary, I have no idea where to shove my one little oar, but I am open to suggestions.

Well I am sure you can guess where the democrat/socialists will suggest you shove it..... lol...lol...lol... :O

712 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:46:30am
713 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:46:48am

Now I'm just all bummed out. Called my favorite Great-Aunt to wish her a happy 13th return of her 71st birthday.

She was all depressed that her health was failing. Seems the doctor told her she was going to have to start taking medicine every day.

He's recommended that she start taking a baby aspirin daily.

One never knows, do one?

714 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:48:01am

re: #695 realwest

You really can't go wrong linking to a Bill Whittle essay!
And it's SO SPOT ON. And afaik, sexual harassment laws are the ONLY laws in our country where you are guilty until you can prove you're innocent!


Ever had a chat with the IRS?

715 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:51:02am
716 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:52:04am

re: #706 buzzsawmonkey

Y'know buzz, lately I've come to think of LGF as Lizardia University...offering degree programs in anti-idiotarianism. I view most of you thick-skin lizards as my professors and nearly have my GED which is why I try to keep quiet in the college level classes except for the occasional intellectual spitball.

Your posts today remind why I value this Blog SOOOOO much. To you and the other Big Lizards *salute*

One of my favorite Proverbs is 27:17 (paraphrased-ish) As iron sharpens iron so one man (lizard) sharpens another

I am always sharper for being here!

717 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:55:38am

re: #715 buzzsawmonkey

One baby aspirin? Considering that many people her age practically rattle like maraccas from the quantity of pills they have to take--most of them more invasive, and more expensive, than a baby aspirin, I'd say she's doing pretty well.

Hell, I rattle like a Chevette going down a gravel road, myself. And I'm 30 years younger than she.

But, as she pointed out, she's outlived all of her close family. All of her brothers and sisters gone. So it's not all been skittles and beer.

718 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:55:41am
719 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:57:12am

re: #718 buzzsawmonkey

Aw, pshaw.

dohmennshunit.

720 razorbacker  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:58:00am

Time for Brett's Jets to see if the Titans really are going to be undefeated.

See y'all later.

721 realwest  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 10:09:21am

re: #720 razorbacker
Won't really matter if the Titans go undefeated for the season - they'll just run into that CRUNCHING machine known as BIG BLUE or the World Champion New York Giants.
We LOVE playing undefeated teams in the Superbowl!

722 floater  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 10:12:44am

This guy (Newton) gets it. I saw the original post (Lan 9) as a great way to jump out and join the Space Cadets who HOPE Barack is the 'disclosure president' and see some GREAT thing in this
doriangrey has GOT to lighten up and not take things so seriously ...
As for hoosierhoops, if an anal probe might help you catch some satire, go get yourself one, from a Space Cadet or otherwise

723 hermit  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 10:25:17am

re: #709 buzzsawmonkey

... but I am open to suggestions.

I honestly believe that so long as the liberals are allowed to refuse liberty to our children, failing to teach them the purpose of responsibility and accountability, while attaching themselves like leeches to the umbilical cord of federal funding to the schools, then the future is bleak.

Our children in public schooling will never be able to tell if their rights as adults are being eroded because they have been so thoroughly indoctrinated by a system which denies them basic liberty. If the party has a future, it must focus more on the future members. And not in a counter-indoctrination way, but just by removing some of the parasites and returning to the true purpose of education.

/rant off

724 doriangrey  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 10:43:40am

re: #722 floater

This guy (Newton) gets it. I saw the original post (Lan 9) as a great way to jump out and join the Space Cadets who HOPE Barack is the 'disclosure president' and see some GREAT thing in this
doriangrey has GOT to lighten up and not take things so seriously ...
As for hoosierhoops, if an anal probe might help you catch some satire, go get yourself one, from a Space Cadet or otherwise

Or perhaps you should have lurked longer before posting and you know, learned some of the intricacies of posting here before posting something that might not have reflected well on you.

725 floater  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 11:54:14am

dorian -- if this (below) is "intricacies", I don't want to know about "lurking". Don't blame me for anything you might not get ... perhaps you need to go get a probe from hoosierhoops

(Oh please.... What the fuck is there to disclose? Fuck the conspiracy theories, if UFO's were real there would be indisputable evidence that no government or the MSM could possible cover up... Grow a fucking brain already and USE IT...........)

726 Moe Katz  Sun, Nov 23, 2008 12:06:10pm

re: #724 doriangrey

Or perhaps you should have lurked longer before posting and you know, learned some of the intricacies of posting here before posting something that might not have reflected well on you.

Why not publish a guide on the subject?


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