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I'd actually like to see this. All of the blogger events I've seen so far have actually been one faction or the other, and / or think tank / pac driven. It would be good to have one, I'd have a few words to say that's for certain.
Should there be a conservative bloggers’ conference like the dreaded Yearly Kos?
I don't think so. The more I learn about people on the internet, and forming coalitions, the less appealing it seems to me. I'm seen enough to know this isn't for me.
My apologies for ruining your day and your appetite, BUT they will turn up if they know where a conservative bloggers conference is being held. I believe it is my duty to forewarn all attendees of the gauntlet they will have to run.
I don't think so. The more I learn about people on the internet, and forming coalitions, the less appealing it seems to me. I'm seen enough to know this isn't for me.
Besides, would you want to run into Cognito in a dark hallway at some convention hotel?
What stops the bloggers from blogging with each other. Just set up a special blog format. 10 minutes, huge arguments break out, everyone shouts "Fuck You!" at each other, x's out the screen and goes back to work.
Can you imagine the endless, arrogant bickering over which blogs are deemed "conservative" enough to represent "conservatism"?
I've seen enough elitist idiocy from the "true conservatives" in the far-right wing of the Republican party over the last year to know that they'd spend far more time bludgeoning each other with labels like "RINO" than they would actually discussing issues.
There are actually very few blogs that self-defined "true conservatives" would approve for a "conservative" blog conference... my opinion.
And I doubt very much that LGF would be on their list. We cuss too much here ;).
Who do you invite? Do the Euro-fascists get to attend?
/how do you keep out the riffraff?
They would hold their own convention in Brussels, where they have so many neo-nazis friends nearby...the USA is just too normal to meet their 'standards'.
No. It'll wind up infested by trolls, moles and miscreants out to do no good.
Besdies, there's already CPAC.
I was thinking the same. Then again, any excuse for a party! And there are those of us who live with moonbats and would like to be with like thinking people.
So where would you hold this event? Washington? That's everything I want to avoid. Most of the great vacation places are hopelessly liberal and the venues can be sabotaged by the friendly union staff. I vote for Fairbanks, Alaska - Anchorage is necessary but still a little too centrist for me.
Do it like an SF convention, given that we're the ones who will have to pay for it and not SOROS. Charge $50 for membership in BlogCon One and have it close to Kansas City (easily reachable from both coasts) over a three day weekend. Offer free memberships to noted speakers and have a film program as well as a bookstore (the film program can attract day visitors who will up the profitability; some might stop by the bookstore as well.) Have Pajamas Media cover it. The hotel will make its money from the room rentals (the only disagreeable thing about it is that most people will have to fly.) Of course, you could try regional cons first.
But please not over the labor day weekend. That's the SF Worldcon.
The only way that I could see this kind of thing staying clean of the taint of kookery would be if it was very tightly controlled, much like the privilege of posting here at LGF is tightly controlled.
The last thing the "conservative blogosphere" needs right now is some "official" association with apologists for Neo-Nazis or the Discovery Institute.
It is difficult enough disassociating ourselves from those kooks now without having them invited to participate in an "official" convention of conservative bloggers.
In time, conservative bloggers may be able to hold such conventions with many like minded bloggers, but I don't think now is that time. We have too many serious internal disputes that still need to be thrashed out.
Let's do it - at my place - in a historic building - the former KINGSLEY ARMS HOTEL in Asbury Park, NJ - used to be AMONG OTHER THINGS, a speakeasy, HQ of the UK Royal Navy Purchasing Commission during WWII, and on and on.
If we get oversubscribed - move it to the Berkeley-Carteret - where Mr. & Mrs. Johnny Cash maintained an East Coast Penthouse for years. The EUROS will probably not come. Pamela might as it is in her backyard. Tell her to bring Debbie Schussel with her and all might be well.
You get the bad with the good here on LGF, that's reality. It's real life. Escapism is not possible, nor is the choice to hunker away from our country or the world.
I believe it would be a good thing to appoint or even vote to get key blogger representatives who value ALL the individual factions of concerns and issues together from the important participants of the conservative blogosphere.
We have placed too much faith and not enough planning and action as a united party, into this last election, which proved to many (most) of us in the Republican Party, that our VALUES as Republicans clearly were not represented in the candidates we were left with after the primaries.
If we cannot come to terms with our party differences now (the sooner the better), the same will occur again. To expect a different outcome, without changing the input variables, is asking for stagnation and investing again on hope or chance to make vital decisions for us. I personally am not willing to allow a repeat of this last election to occur again to us or to our country.
I am much more willing to contribute enthusiasm, support and energy to a unified conservative vision and mission and to negotiate terms of differences, than to sulk, whine, or be victimized, or worse yet, assume a martyr stance, by just allowing the government to eventually evolve back to us after a decade of socialism and large government management and control. It is past due for us to formulate a conservative values unity party truly based on our VALUES as conservatives, develop a strategic and tactical plan, agree on the platform, and get busy in the party to select new candidates for our cities, counties, parishes, states, and our country for future elections.
We already know the consequences if we do not. We will all remain losers as Conservative Americans, whether we are Republicans, Democrats or Libertarians. Socialism is not American.
I'd personally like to see some sort of get together for conservative bloggers. To test the water, such a thing wouldn't even have to be political in nature. Just get a nice open field and a couple hundred dozen beer kegs somewhere in America's heartland. Kentucky or Tennessee or West Virginia or some such.
Liberals don't go to the heartland. Fresh air gives them hives.
I personally think it's a good idea - not because it's a chance to sort out leadership, but because we would be exercising our rights to freedom of assembly. Why should we be afraid of Code Pink or some other collection of misguided miscreants? If we're afraid of what other people think of us, or afraid to speak our minds in public with our names and faces attached, then we need to examine what we personally believe. I, for one, am not ashamed of what I believe, and not ashamed to stand up for what I believe in. If this sort of fear was rational, the Marines would not be running a recruiting station in the middle of Berkeley - and I think the Marines are having fun doing so. Why miss out on all the fun?
Stand up for what you believe in. Speak your mind.
Is that what you believe of the level of the quality journalism that comes from Conservative Bloggers: Malkin, Reynolds, VD Hanson, Zombie, C Johnson, Beck, Limbaugh, Lawhawk, Ayn Rand Inst,
"Conservatism" has no philosophic definition; just a mish-mash of "sort-ofs" and "generally agreed upon principals" and a "anti-Leftist bent."re: #83 Boston Patriot
That is one of the primary reasons we need a conference. To develop a unified philosophic definition.
So you honestly believe that the bloggosphere IN NO WAY has a positive impact and outcome on the quality outcomes and delivery of the "news" and "journalism" and "exposes" in the political process, uniting common interests for elections, or in
ACTING as a constant factual check for the MSM?
I ask you then, WHY do you participate in blogging on this site?
I think we are all lacking in our potential for unified vision and mission for our party here and on the conservative blogosphere.
We're wasting our abilities of opportunity and energy on thoughts like this.
Always what cannot be done...
What about what CAN be done!
Like Kos' yearly screamer sessions? NO. Let's set the bar way higher than that. Let's actually get a productive Conservative Think tank together that will do much more than just THINK. Time to WALK the Talk my friends.
You cannot stop the SIGNAL.
AND? They get the press no matter what is factual or fiction. So? we that believe in countering them and exposing them are just to pretend that they don't exist or worse yet, they really are not there?
right...that's a very effective tactic.
That's called magical thinking.
re: #81 quickjustice
I guess you could have a skills workshop about making the product better, or a technology workshop at which Charles could shine. That's about it.
That's about it?...If you blog here you would not just underestimate talents here and isolate one sole merit that our Grand Lizard has provided us with and ...for free I might add. There is so MUCH MORE he provides us with than just his TECHNOLOGICAL Wizardry. This IS a think tank in infancy. Perhaps you need to actually READ his journalism exposes and the choices of the anti-semitic articles and the threads...
Is everyone here only interested in SOCIAL blog interaction?
NO. Maybe we could all benefit from the use of the gift of discernment. I would love to have C Johnson and other conservative contributors from this site represent us at a Conservative conference. If they would so boldly go where no conservative has gone before. If this comes to fruition, I'm all for creating a funding collection on line depository to pay his way to attend in the interests of all of us in the Conservative party.
That is if you think Charles Johnson, your host here, is qualified to represent your values and
opinions...
I think a conservative blogger's conference is a great idea. Given the state of conservatism at this stage, I think it's not only a great idea, it's a necessary one.
I respectfully disagree with some of the reasons given by some posters as to why it's not a good idea. Some are afraid that others in the conservative blogosphere with whom we disagree with like GoV will be part of it. So? What's the problem with a healthy discussion among conservatives about our differences? I'm not afraid of a debate in the arena of ideas with anybody. I'm sure that in spite of these differences, we'd probably find ourselves in agreement on more issues than those we disagree on. Charles has never been afraid of standing by his principles either, or defending them in the arena of ideas. I myself would look forward to a healthy face to face debate between Charles Johnson and Baron Bodissey, for example.
Others are worried that if Charles were to sit down with bloggers who have chosen to ignore or gloss over the white supremacists in Europe that he and the Lizard Nation will all be tarred with being fascists. Well, I've got news for you folks, most of the people on the left have already decided we're a bunch of racists and fascists. Charles efforts to distance himself from white supremacists, as much as I admire him for his courage, hasn't stopped most lefties from describing the Lizard Nation as a bunch of racists and fascists. To most of them simply being a conservative is enough for them to hang those labels on people. We've got nothing to lose on that front.
The worst I see coming from such a conference is that the situation between various factions in the conservative blogosphere remains the same. I don't know what the positive outcome of such a conference might be, but I think cowering behind keyboards being afraid of what people who already hate any and all conservative bloggers isn't an answer. This is the time for conservatives to come forward and state our principles. Who knows, they may find enough common ground to agree on some issues and start moving the conservative movement back to relevancy. I think the conservative blogosphere can be a catalyst to revive the conservative movement. It's not a cure all, of course, but I really don't think we have much to lose, in my humble opinion.
Of course, it's ultimately our host's decision whether or not to participate in such a conference. I look forward to Charle's thoughts on this subject.
This is exactly the sort of sentiment that a conference could help to alleviate. We just got our keesters handed to us, now is not the time to start drumming people out of the ideological tent. The solution isn't how to get the right to move in lockstep- that's what liberals do. The solution is to sort out our common ground and in terms of ideals and compromise in terms of action. Someone mentioned Battlestar and they're right; currently we're a ragtag fleet on the run. It's time we started acting like it.
Exactly. When the other side throws a tantrum, you know you're doing something right.
I think a conservative blogger conference is a good idea for the simple reason that's it's always a good idea to network with like-minded folk. The more you know, the merrier, IMO.
Frank says: