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Open • Tue Nov 25, 2008 at 10:46 pm PST • Views: 147

Nothing is more difficult than competing with a myth.

— Françoise Giroud

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1 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:48:25pm

Myths can be changed, or change yourself to fit the myth.

2 mountman  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:49:40pm

Fight a myth with a myth...

3 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:50:40pm

This is no myth: I will recognize Obama as America's president IF he is an American, and IF he completes the requirements as laid out in the Constitution!

IF Obama is elected (and there is MORE to the process in America!) THEN I will acknowledge him as president.

Until then, there IS something we can do about the media blackout on news of either of the lawsuits currently in court about Obama. Its no longer just Obama's citizenship that is questioned, there is this MSM clampdown on news that Americans have a right to hear, learn, know...

4 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:52:05pm

Will someone please give Britney Spears a boot to the head? There's a crisp $1 bill in it for ya if you do.

5 realwest  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:52:51pm

Unless of course you're a myth yourself!
Anyway, just said on the prior thread, I've gotta go to sleep now! I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

6 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:53:06pm

My mizzin mast is mything...

7 descolada9  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:53:25pm

Boy, there's way too much truth in tonight's quote. Listening to Michael Medved and he's arguing with some wacko-lady about Native American history. A lot of the myths about atrocities against Native Americans really need to be properly debunked and the truth told about some of the stuff both the settlers and the Native Americans did.

Anyways, back to prepping the menu for Thanksgiving. Have a good one, y'all!

8 pat  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:53:55pm

While I do not doubt Obama's citizenship, he does seem to be embarrassed about something that I cannot fathom.

9 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:55:43pm

The MSM is holding up 0bama as Myth America...

10 pat  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:55:46pm

re: #7 descolada9

What a loony nut case. The Amerinds must have been about ready to go to the moon before the evil Pilgrims landed with all 50 guns.or so.

11 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:56:52pm

Pilgrims. Never trust people with buckles on their hats. :)

12 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:57:29pm

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

Pilgrims. Never trust people with buckles on their hats. :)

Or on their shoes...

13 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:57:36pm

re: #3 Karridine

Say.

/you're not planning on flying anywhere soon?

14 pat  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:57:42pm

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

back up buckles. who never heard of that.

15 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:58:01pm
Nothing is more difficult than competing with a myth.

"Competing with a what?"

"Myth! Myth!"

"Yeth?"


/Free upding to the first person who can identify the movie that inspired that

16 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:58:21pm

re: #14 pat

back up buckles. who never heard of that.

In my line of work, we'd call it a "drop buckle." In case you shoot a Pilgrim without one.

17 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:59:00pm

re: #15 gmsc

"Competing with a what?"

"Myth! Myth!"

"Yeth?"


/Free upding to the first person who can identify the movie that inspired that

The Muppet Movie?

18 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:59:06pm

re: #6 Dustyvet

nah, that's just a myth-conception. You just haven't looked in the right spot yet.

19 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 10:59:48pm

re: #17 Wyatt Earp

The Muppet Movie?

Yep - and here's your free upding!

20 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:00:21pm

re: #19 gmsc

Yep - and here's your free upding!

Whoo hoo! Thank you, sir. My kids - well, I - love that movie!

21 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:00:27pm

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

Pilgrims. Never trust people with buckles on their hats. :)


How 'bout an interstate highway with that feature?

22 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:00:48pm

re: #16 Wyatt Earp

In my line of work, we'd call it a "drop buckle." In case you shoot a Pilgrim without one.

What happened to the Pilgrim who was shot at by an Indian?
He had an arrow escape

23 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:01:23pm

re: #21 Fenway_Nation

How 'bout an interstate highway with that feature?

Oh, for crying out loud!

24 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:01:41pm

re: #22 Dustyvet

At least he wasn't scalped. That could have been hair raising indeed.

25 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:02:01pm

Here in America, we refer to our myths as tall tales. Enjoy some good ol' American tall tales, just in time for Thanksgiving!

26 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:04:35pm

re: #20 Wyatt Earp

Whoo hoo! Thank you, sir. My kids - well, I - love that movie!

"Bear left!"

"Right, frog!"

27 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:04:42pm

re: #25 gmsc

I love tall tales. Read a lot of them when I was younger.

28 Dustyvet  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:04:57pm

If pilgrims were alive today, what would they say? Do not resuscitate.

29 [deleted]  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:05:00pm
30 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:06:13pm

Okay, I got one good suggestion last thread but I'll ask again.

What's a good off the grocery store shelf marinade for grilled turkey breasts?

/no recipes please

31 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:08:04pm

re: #30 Killian Bundy

If you can get it in the states, Presidents Choice Memories of Kobi, or something like that. Give me a second to google.

32 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:08:56pm

A thwing and a myth ith a thtrike.

Lisps always remind me of little Ron Howard as Winthrop in The Music Man.

33 Adrenalyn  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:09:36pm

re: #30 Killian Bundy

Okay, I got one good suggestion last thread but I'll ask again.

What's a good off the grocery store shelf marinade for grilled turkey breasts?

/no recipes please


Giraud's Champagne salad dressing, believe it or not

34 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:10:01pm

re: #30 Killian Bundy

Okay, here's what I was talking about. Might be available state side. Not sure though

35 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:11:24pm

The Myth of the Noble Savage, eh?

READ how 'noble' the Iroquois were...

Not enough? Try this... Torture was a religion, an artform...

I'll pass, theng kyew

36 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:15:28pm

re: #33 Adrenalyn

Giraud's Champagne salad dressing, believe it or not

re: #34 BlueCanuck

Okay, here's what I was talking about. Might be available state side. Not sure though

/thanks, I'm going to a high end grocery store tomorrow and the more suggestions the better

37 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:16:51pm

I keep meaning to try the Cajun-style Turducken each year...

/not too late for Christmas, I suppose.

38 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:16:54pm

re: #35 Karridine

Ste. Marie among the Hurons. The Iroquois captured two Jesuit priests during the Huron Iroquois wars on the shores of Lake Huron, near modern day Midland, Ontario, Canada. Father Brebouf and Father Lallemant were tortured by the Iroqouis. The warriors were so impressed by Father Brebeuf's courage that they ate his heart to try and gain his courage.

39 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:18:38pm

re: #35 Karridine

The Myth of the Noble Savage, eh?

READ how 'noble' the Iroquois were...

Not enough? Try this... Torture was a religion, an artform...

I'll pass, theng kyew

So, are you okay and is your side winning after yesterday's episode?

/feel free to ignore that query if it jeopardizes your internet or local safety

40 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:21:45pm

Ok, freaking out a bit here. I cannot find my sweet potato casserole recipe for thanksgiving dinner!

It is not your usual sweet potatoes with marshmallows. I boil sweet potatoes and mash them, add eggs and vanilla and some other stuff (maybe nutmeg?), then add a topping of flour/butter/pecans to the top to make a nice crust.

Does anyone have that recipe?

41 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:22:39pm

re: #4 Wyatt Earp

Will someone please give Britney Spears a boot to the head? There's a crisp $1 bill in it for ya if you do.

come by and visit: i know where she lives...

/just wipe your feet before you come inside %-)

42 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:24:02pm

re: #39 Killian Bundy

So, are you okay and is your side winning after yesterday's episode?

/feel free to ignore that query if it jeopardizes your internet or local safety

Blurbs and newsclips... no more bombs exploding among "The Mob", but police did sweep through and confiscated dozens of guns...

"Wha- well, DANG! Where did THAT come from?"

/all in Thai, d'accords

43 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:25:18pm

And I am strangely homesick for Thanksgiving this year, as I haven't been for at least 17 years... (been here 23, but who's counting?)

44 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:26:16pm

re: #15 gmsc

"Competing with a what?"

"Myth! Myth!"

"Yeth?"


/Free upding to the first person who can identify the movie that inspired that

Here I was going to crack a "Yeth" joke and you beat me to it.

45 Adrenalyn  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:26:28pm

re: #40 Intrepid

Ok, freaking out a bit here. I cannot find my sweet potato casserole recipe for thanksgiving dinner!

It is not your usual sweet potatoes with marshmallows. I boil sweet potatoes and mash them, add eggs and vanilla and some other stuff (maybe nutmeg?), then add a topping of flour/butter/pecans to the top to make a nice crust.

Does anyone have that recipe?

no, I don't have access to it tonight, but don't forget to add some crushed pineapple - that much I can recall you are missing

46 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:27:01pm

re: #35 Karridine

The Myth of the Noble Savage, eh?

READ how 'noble' the Iroquois were...

Not enough? Try this... Torture was a religion, an artform...

I'll pass, theng kyew

A few years back, there was a protest against the FSU Floroida Seminoles, claiming that the name and the image of their mascot Chief Osceola were offensive to actual Native Americans.

That protest was cut short the sports team pointed out that their mascot and name were used with the official sanction of the people of the actual Seminole tribe.

47 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:27:32pm

re: #43 Karridine

And I am strangely homesick for Thanksgiving this year, as I haven't been for at least 17 years... (been here 23, but who's counting?)

Heh - I get ya, Karradine. Villa on Sumhumvit has turkeys and all the fixins, if ya wanna have a fix. Their turkeys are a bit expensive.

:-)

48 LeePro  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:28:06pm

re: #30 Killian Bundy

Okay, I got one good suggestion last thread but I'll ask again.

What's a good off the grocery store shelf marinade for grilled turkey breasts?

/no recipes please

Some kinda booze and really big lips?

49 SolidOcelot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:28:13pm

Evening all. Are the pirates still running around being stupid? Yaargh shiver me timbers pieces o' eight etc.

50 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:28:39pm

re: #45 Adrenalyn

no, I don't have access to it tonight, but don't forget to add some crushed pineapple - that much I can recall you are missing

Nah, that's not the recipe! No crushed pineapple! (my sister hates pineapple!)

51 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:29:03pm

re: #42 Karridine

Blurbs and newsclips... no more bombs exploding among "The Mob", but police did sweep through and confiscated dozens of guns...

"Wha- well, DANG! Where did THAT come from?"

/all in Thai, d'accords

I think I get the picture, say no more.

/much like Venezuela, without one of the world's major airports shut down for a day

52 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:29:13pm

re: #44 Sharmuta

Here I was going to crack a "Yeth" joke and you beat me to it.

I'll give you a free upding anyway.

53 Karridine  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:30:12pm

re: #47 Intrepid

Yeah, Villa Market (has branches now) and Foodland, but I'm strangely between jobs, Intrepid... we can't afford imported turkey, and couldn't OVEN-cook it if we could!

/just homesick, that's all

54 LeePro  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:30:49pm

I know, I know...

It's late and I'm really tired after hours of pre-Thanksgiving galley prep.
More — bigger — prep tomorrow... maybe I should go to bed?

55 Adrenalyn  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:31:00pm

re: #50 Intrepid

Nah, that's not the recipe! No crushed pineapple! (my sister hates pineapple!)

oh no, I make a mean pina colada pancake with it

make the batter, as normal
add in crushed pineapple and stir
pop in the buttered fry pan

sprinkle on some fresh cocount shavings
flip and serve with real maple syrup

56 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:31:19pm

re: #4 Wyatt Earp

Will someone please give Britney Spears a boot to the head? There's a crisp $1 bill in it for ya if you do.

This ought to knock her down a few points.

57 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:32:33pm

re: #52 gmsc

Aren't you sweet? BTW- I love the Muppet Movie.

58 Adrenalyn  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:32:45pm

little bit of pineapple trivia

there is only ONE pineapple plantation left in America
on Maui, up near Kapalua

all the rest closed because Thailand and other places are so much cheaper

also, they have horseback riding in the plantation too, if you're ever there
it is really cool to ride the hills/fields at sunset

59 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:33:29pm

re: #48 LeePro

Some kinda booze and really big lips?

Well, I'm sorry that you feel the need to dis premium tenderloin turkey breasts.

/only good part of the whole bird, other than a stuffing container

60 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:34:36pm

re: #46 gmsc

Same thing happened up in North Dakota with the Fighting Sioux- I think a new arena for their hockey team was bankrolled by one of the alums- included the fighting Sioux logo (generic and fairly inoffensive silhouette of an Indian and feathered headband) on every seat when some third party filed a lawsuit and demanded North Dakota frop the name and remove the logo from all the seats...

They were basically told to go pound sand...

61 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:34:52pm

re: #56 gmsc

I don't know wether to ding you up or down. Up ding for finding the connection between two songs, one being obscure. Down ding for subjecting us to BS music.

/okay, no dings and we call it even.

62 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:34:58pm

re: #49 SolidOcelot

Evening all. Are the pirates still running around being stupid? Yaargh shiver me timbers pieces o' eight etc.

avast there ya land lubber!

/arrgh!

63 wolfie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:36:23pm

re: #46 gmsc

I remember talking to some Navaho teenagers when we were visting the Canyon de Chelly area a couple of years ago. We got to talking about sports team names. They laughed at all that PC business and said they would be proud to have a team named the Navaho. (They themselves played on a reservation baseball team called the Braves. )

64 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:36:30pm

re: #53 Karridine

Yeah, Villa Market (has branches now) and Foodland, but I'm strangely between jobs, Intrepid... we can't afford imported turkey, and couldn't OVEN-cook it if we could!

/just homesick, that's all

Oh Karradine, I understand. Can ya'll go for a meal at the Londoner Brew Pub or Bulls Head? (both on Sukhumvit)

Or maybe the pub that keeps changing names over on Convent off of Silom that has a carvery? Or O'Reilly's on Silom?

Heh - favorite haunts.

We had a nearby Foodland, and they were comparable with Villa, but Villa was the sentimental choice.

65 Adrenalyn  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:38:06pm

who's in Thailand now ?
I just saw all hell broke loose at the capital airport

66 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:38:13pm

re: #63 wolfie

Apparently that was the reaction of the Sioux up in North Dakota- especially since their Hockey team were regular visitors to the Frozen Four on a yearly basis (still are, I think).

67 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:38:37pm

re: #49 SolidOcelot

Evening all. Are the pirates still running around being stupid? Yaargh shiver me timbers pieces o' eight etc.

This graph is proving very accurate!

As the average global temperature has grown cooler over the last 8 years, we've seen a remarkable increase in pirate stories on the news!

68 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:38:49pm

re: #59 Killian Bundy

/only good part of the whole bird, other than a stuffing container

/who the hell likes getting stuck with eating all the nasty dark meat off a 15+ lb. turkey?

69 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:38:49pm

re: #65 Adrenalyn

who's in Thailand now ?
I just saw all hell broke loose at the capital airport

What? Where?

70 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:39:49pm

re: #68 Killian Bundy

/who the hell likes getting stuck with eating all the nasty dark meat off a 15+ lb. turkey?

SOUP! Make soup with the left over meat!

71 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:39:56pm

re: #69 Intrepid

What? Where?

Thai protesters enter main airport control tower

72 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:40:06pm

re: #57 Sharmuta

Aren't you sweet? BTW- I love the Muppet Movie.

Thanks!

To make up for my last video link, here's "Rainbow Connection" from the opening of the Muppet Movie.

73 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:40:55pm

re: #61 BlueCanuck

I don't know wether to ding you up or down. Up ding for finding the connection between two songs, one being obscure. Down ding for subjecting us to BS music.

/okay, no dings and we call it even.

You're very forgiving. I'll take the no dings!

74 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:41:10pm

Apache Vengeance...my first xxx prono novel - got it coverless from a buddy back in grade school in the mid-sixties. Explicit graphic depictions of Indian rape and torture of white women.
Damn nasty book made a tremendous impression.

75 LeePro  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:41:12pm

re: #59 Killian Bundy

Well, I'm sorry that you feel the need to dis premium tenderloin turkey breasts.

/only good part of the whole bird, other than a stuffing container

Geez. Not dissing premium tenderloin turkey breasts (my favorite, by the way), just throwing in a little humor.

Sorry I disturbed your royal sour-pussy-ness!

///

76 SolidOcelot  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:41:35pm

re: #65 Adrenalyn

300 of Thai's finest protestors entered Bangkok Airport to do battle. None shall leave, all will die heroes of Sparta Thailand.

And yes, I am beating a long dead fad.

77 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:41:39pm

re: #69 Intrepid

What? Where?

/it was yesterday, all flights canceled for the day, not providing a linky

78 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:42:43pm

re: #61 BlueCanuck

I don't know wether to ding you up or down. Up ding for finding the connection between two songs, one being obscure. Down ding for subjecting us to BS music.

/okay, no dings and we call it even.

BTW, "Womanizer" isn't THAT obscure.
;)

79 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:42:43pm

re: #71 Sharmuta

Thai protesters enter main airport control tower

Holy Crap! They shut down Suwanaphum airport on Wednesday before American Thanksgiving?

Egads. That is not good. Not good at all.

80 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:43:02pm

re: #68 Killian Bundy

/who the hell likes getting stuck with eating all the nasty dark meat off a 15+ lb. turkey?

LOL. I can't stand it but somehow it ends up getting eaten by others, mostly as leftovers.

81 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:43:13pm

re: #75 LeePro

Sorry I disturbed your royal sour-pussy-ness!

/// /// ///

/well, touche, enjoy the thread roger

82 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:43:33pm

re: #73 gmsc

Oh I have to be. Especially with some of the links I have thrown out there as well. ;)

/nothing like the groan, or ick factor

83 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:44:57pm

re: #75 LeePro

Geez. Not dissing premium tenderloin turkey breasts (my favorite, by the way), just throwing in a little humor.

Sorry I disturbed your royal sour-pussy-ness!

/// /// ///

That reminds me of this bit from "The Critic".

84 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:45:54pm

re: #75 LeePro

WOW! HOW DID YOU GET THE SARC TAGS TO GO OUTSIDE THE COMMENT BOX ON MY COMPUTER?
DID ANYONE ELSE GET THIS?

85 LeePro  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:46:06pm

re: #63 wolfie

I remember talking to some Navaho teenagers when we were visting the Canyon de Chelly area a couple of years ago. We got to talking about sports team names. They laughed at all that PC business and said they would be proud to have a team named the Navaho. (They themselves played on a reservation baseball team called the Braves. )

JimPro and I were talking about that tonight (after reading MM's Thanksgiving Derangement Syndrome reference to this story).

We don't name our teams to make fun of the Indians, but to honor them!

86 winston06  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:46:40pm

Wednesday is gonna be a great day for me... have a good night every one

87 Intrepid  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:46:47pm

Sorry, but Bangkok International Airport is a main hub for Asia to America air traffic, specifically from Southeast Asia. And if they shut down the Bangkok airport on Wednesday, then that means thousands of holiday travelers will be stuck.

Not good.

88 stuiec  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:48:08pm

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

89 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:48:15pm

re: #58 Adrenalyn

I remember an abandoned Dole plantation near Anahole Bay on Kauai. Family was there in the summer of 1974. We picked ripe pineapples every morning for breakfast, and coconut palms all around. If you looked around enough, papaya was plentiful, but I never cared for it.
Good times.

90 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:48:32pm

What to do with leftover Turkey- Alton Brown style

Part 1

91 gmsc  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:49:07pm

re: #88 stuiec

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

The new motto of the Grey Lady.

92 LeePro  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:50:03pm

re: #84 Spare O'Lake

WOW! HOW DID YOU GET THE SARC TAGS TO GO OUTSIDE THE COMMENT BOX ON MY COMPUTER?
DID ANYONE ELSE GET THIS?

It's a secret. AND PLEASE STOP SHOUTING (all caps is shouting)!

;D

93 Mel Lono  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:51:17pm

re: #68 Killian Bundy

/who the hell likes getting stuck with eating all the nasty dark meat off a 15+ lb. turkey?

I save a turkey leg for me to watch football on the Weekend. Hmmm. Salt and pepper.. cold out of the frig.

94 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:52:37pm

re: #87 Intrepid

And if they shut down the Bangkok airport on Wednesday, then that means thousands of holiday travelers will be stuck.

Not good.

/we shoud have already found about about that

95 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:52:46pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

Love that episode. :)

/subscirbed to that channel a long time ago.

96 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:53:53pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

What to do with leftover Turkey- Alton Brown style

Part 1

Part 2

97 fiat_lux  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:53:57pm

re: #88 stuiec

Something similar was said in the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence

98 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:54:04pm

re: #95 BlueCanuck

It's a classic.

99 wolfie  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:55:18pm

re: #85 LeePro

Amen. We don't name teams the Dimwits, the Nazis, the Bolsheviks, the Worms, or the Fwench!

The story in that link enfuriates me. These purity obsessed ideologues are determined to take away every fun tradition we have.

100 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:55:48pm

re: #92 LeePro

It's a secret. AND PLEASE STOP SHOUTING (all caps is shouting)!
;D

(also used to convey amazement)
Do it again.

101 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:57:33pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

What to do with leftover Turkey- Alton Brown style

Part 1

we're feeding it to the local raccoons...

2 days and that's it.

102 Killian Bundy  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:57:58pm

You know, you can buy a massive turkey at less than $.50/pd.

/think about that in the overall meat shopping context

103 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 25, 2008 11:58:58pm

re: #91 gmsc

The new motto of the Grey Lady.

i thought it was "brother can you spare a dime?"

104 LeePro  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:05:33am

re: #99 wolfie

Amen. We don't name teams the Dimwits, the Nazis, the Bolsheviks, the Worms, or the Fwench!

The story in that link enfuriates me. These purity obsessed ideologues are determined to take away every fun tradition we have.

Hah!
Can't you just see the New Orleans Fwench!? Or the San Francisco Bolsheviks!?

hahahaha

I hardly ever comment there, but couldn't help it this time...

105 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:06:09am

Sweet Potato Casserole? & Others...

106 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:06:23am
107 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:07:30am

What a sight! What a sight! The copter seems to be circling the parking area now. I guess it's looking for a place to land.

No! Something just came out of the back of the helicopter! It's . . . a dark object . . . perhaps a skydiver, plummeting to Earth from only 200 feet in the air!

A second! A third! There's no parachutes yet . . . they can't be skydivers . . . I can't tell yet just what they are, but . . .

OH MY GOD! THEY'RE TURKEYS!

They're plunging to the Earth right in front of our eyes! One just went through the windshield of a parked car!

Now, everyone's running around, pushing each other. Oh, my goodness! Oh, the humanity!

The turkeys are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement! I don't know how much longer . . . the crowd is running for their lives.

I think I'm going to step inside. I can't watch this any longer. No, I can't go in there . . .

Children are searching for their mothers, and . . . oh, not since the Hindenberg tragedy has there been anything like this . . . I don't know how much longer I can hold my position here, Johnny!

For those of you just joining us, the Pinedale Shopping Mall has just been bombed with live turkeys!

108 Karridine  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:08:06am

UPDATE: Bangkok: Scumbags claiming to be part of "The Protest" have illegally invaded the runways and aprons of Suwannapoom International Airport, making it extremely difficult for airplanes to land, service or OFFLOAD passengers!

The legitimate government had better deal swiftly and sharply with these usurping, power-mad thugs, or the losses will be astronomical! Decades of courtesy-and-safety have nurtured a wonderful tourist trade here, and these chumps are SCREWING THE POOCH!

/update updated

109 LeePro  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:08:21am

re: #100 Spare O'Lake

(also used to convey amazement)
Do it again.

Okay. Shouting allowed when conveying AMAZEMENT!

///

This only works if you are holding your mouth right.

110 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:08:57am

///
Yeeehaw!

111 LeePro  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:09:36am

re: #102 Killian Bundy

18 pounder — 37¢/lb

112 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:09:51am

re: #106 IngisKahn

Gee, thanks a lot for REALLY rogering the thread.

113 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:10:32am

re: #106 IngisKahn

/// /// /// /// /// /// ///

^ hmm in IE 7&8 that breaks through the box, FF3 wraps it. Someone alert a hampster :p

I guess I miss out on so much when I use a standards-based browser.
;)

114 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:10:51am

Charles is going to wake up, take one look, then start disabling a bunch of posting code on us again.

/still miss the burma shave posts.

115 Crux Australis  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:12:53am

///

Same thing and I use IE7

116 IngisKahn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:13:11am

re: #113 gmsc

What browser is that? (surely not FF, IE8 is closer to standards :p )

117 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:13:32am

What really pisses me off about cooking is that the recipe requirements never match your supplies. So, you go to the grocery store and have to buy more than you need and it eventually leads to much waste.

/milk, evaporated milk, it's in the trash by the end of next week

118 wolfie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:13:46am

re: #104 LeePro

Bravo, LeePro! :)
As you mention, a BIG part of the traditional story was always about the Pilgrims and Indians sharing knowledge, wasn't it? The Indians helped the Pilgrims and taught them how to grow native foods. It wasn't about a bunch of cultural imperialist Europeans coming over here forcing the Indians to eat to braised lamb and croissants.

oops...dissing the Fwench again!

119 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:14:11am

I hate to interrupt this slash-fest, but there are pictures of the Thailand Airport shutdown over at FOX News.

120 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:15:01am

re: #116 IngisKahn

What browser is that? (surely not FF, IE8 is closer to standards :p )

Nope, not FF - there's only one for me!

121 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:15:17am

re: #104 LeePro

Hah!
Can't you just see the New Orleans Fwench!? Or the San Francisco Bolsheviks!?

hahahaha

I hardly ever comment there, but couldn't help it this time...

from the name, i would have taken her for a "red dot" indian...

not that there's anything wrong with that, except for the fact this moron is sucking down tax dollars w*rking at UCR.

122 LeePro  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:15:21am

re: #114 BlueCanuck

Charles is going to wake up, take one look, then start disabling a bunch of posting code on us again.

/still miss the burma shave posts.

Yeah [giggle] everybody calm down [snort] and behave. [snort/giggle] He already took away our multiple ? ? ? and ! ! !

[heehee] and the first one to tell will get his royal butt kicked with a turkey leg (good use of dark meat!).

123 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:15:38am

re: #118 wolfie

I will say. The pilgrims were Puritans from England, not Hugeonots from France.

/both protestants, both persecuted, that's the only similarities I think.

124 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:16:26am

re: #117 Killian Bundy

What really pisses me off about cooking is that the recipe requirements never match your supplies. So, you go to the grocery store and have to buy more than you need and it eventually leads to much waste.

/milk, evaporated milk, it's in the trash by the end of next week

who follows recipes?

125 LeePro  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:16:42am

re: #118 wolfie

LOL!

and thanks!

126 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:17:09am

re: #105 slokat

Sweet Potato Casserole? & Others...

THAT'S IT! That's the one I've been looking for! Same one we've made for years and years.

Thank you, slokat!

:-)

127 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:18:01am

re: #124 redc1c4

who follows recipes?

I do, but only when it comes to baking. And that's because it's important when you are talking about some types of chemical reactions.

/one reason why I like baking, it's really chemistry

128 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:18:16am

re: #104 LeePro

Hah!
Can't you just see the New Orleans Fwench!? Or the San Francisco Bolsheviks!?

hahahaha

. . . which reminds me of some other weird name and city combinations:

Los Angeles Lakers
New Orleans Saints
Utah Jazz

129 LeePro  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:18:18am

re: #121 redc1c4

from the name, i would have taken her for a "red dot" indian...

not that there's anything wrong with that, except for the fact this moron is sucking down tax dollars w*rking at UCR.

YUP!
And a very sari woman, indeed!

130 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:18:21am

re: #114 BlueCanuck

Charles is going to wake up, take one look, then start disabling a bunch of posting code on us again.

/still miss the burma shave posts.

when were those?

131 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:18:42am

re: #111 LeePro

18 pounder — 37¢/lb

I paid $4.00+/lb. for the premium tenderloin turkey breasts. Well worth the money.

/don't take insane amount of hours to cook, don't care who ended up with the rest of my birds

132 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:19:41am

Is there no limit to the sarcasm? ///

Weirodly, it doesn't seem work for backslash. \

133 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:20:05am

re: #130 redc1c4

A year or so ago. You used to be able quote, quoted posts. Really fun until people started rogering threads with going over the 5 post quote limit.

/always had to end your comment with "Burma Shave" or get dissed too.

134 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:20:22am

re: #117 Killian Bundy

Evaporated milk makes a good coffee creamer...

135 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:21:39am

re: #126 Intrepid

You're welcome. ;)

136 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:22:36am

re: #117 Killian Bundy

What really pisses me off about cooking is that the recipe requirements never match your supplies. So, you go to the grocery store and have to buy more than you need and it eventually leads to much waste.

/milk, evaporated milk, it's in the trash by the end of next week

Ya gotta do what my sister and I have learned to do - getting close to this time of year, we make soups (since it is colder weather). Soups mean we need celery, so one of us buys a stalk of it, and use as much of it as we can, as the need for celery is high in the making of dressing/stuffing.

As far as evaporated milk - I can't think of many recipes that only use part of a can of evaporated milk?

?

137 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:24:23am

re: #133 BlueCanuck

/always had to end your comment with "Burma Shave" or get dissed too.

Back when I lived in California, the Museum of Modern Art featured a display of old Burma-Shave signs.

I loved the ad for it, too. On successive pages of a local magazine, the ad featured pictures of Burma-Shave signs that read like this:

Those old red signs

We used to see 'em

But now they've gone

To a museum!


For you young 'uns, here's a sample of the great writing of Burma-Shave signs.

138 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:24:34am

think Sylvester the cat...

1st customer: Excuthse me bartender, I'd like a thhscotchn wifthh a club thhsoda chathhser.
Bartender: Yethhs thhsir. Wifth or wiffthout ithhce?
1st customer: HEY! awre you making thhfun ofth me?
Bartender: No thhsir, no.
2nd customer: I'd like a martini, shaken not stirred.
Bartender: Why yes sir, a martini, shaken. Olive or onion?
1st customer: HEY! you thhsaid you wathhsn't making thhfun ofthh me!
Bartender: I wasthh making thhfun ofthh you. I wasthh making thhfun ofthh him.

139 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:24:36am

Hey Red!

Mechanic is supposed to put the diesel back in my boat next week - of course, he's never done what/when he's promised yet...

140 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:27:40am

re: #136 Intrepid

Ya gotta do what my sister and I have learned to do - getting close to this time of year, we make soups (since it is colder weather). Soups mean we need celery, so one of us buys a stalk of it, and use as much of it as we can, as the need for celery is high in the making of dressing/stuffing.

As far as evaporated milk - I can't think of many recipes that only use part of a can of evaporated milk?

That's exactly why I hate cooking.

/the grocery store is already filled with minimum fuss, pre-packaged by professional dietitians, food units

141 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:29:08am

re: #130 redc1c4
Charles is going to wake up, take one look, then start disabling a bunch of posting code on us again.

/still miss the burma shave posts.

when were those?

A year or so ago. You used to be able quote, quoted posts. Really fun until people started rogering threads with going over the 5 post quote limit.

/always had to end your comment with "Burma Shave" or get dissed too.

/Burma Shave

142 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:30:04am

re: #139 slokat

Hey Red!

Mechanic is supposed to put the diesel back in my boat next week - of course, he's never done what/when he's promised yet...

was kinda wondering... but not that much.

wonder of wonders, i have a j*b interview next week. %-)

143 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:30:48am

re: #140 Killian Bundy

That's exactly why I hate cooking.

/the grocery store is already filled with minimum fuss, pre-packaged by professional dietitians, food units that taste like crap.

%-)

144 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:31:08am

re: #140 Killian Bundy

That's exactly why I hate cooking.
/the grocery store is already filled with minimum fuss, pre-packaged by professional dietitians, food units

There is nothing better than good old fashioned home cooking.
As long as you can just show up and eat it!

145 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:31:24am

re: #49 SolidOcelot

Evening all. Are the pirates still running around being stupid? Yaargh shiver me timbers pieces o' eight etc.

Long ago, when sailing ships ruled the waves, a captain and his crew were in danger of being boarded by a pirate ship. As the crew became frantic, the captain bellowed to his First Mate, "Bring me my red shirt!". The First Mate quickly retrieved the captain's red shirt, which the captain put on and lead the crew to battle the pirate boarding party. Although some casualties occurred among the crew, the pirates were repelled.

Later that day, the lookout screamed that there were two pirate vessels sending boarding parties. The crew cowered in fear, but the captain calm as ever bellowed, "Bring me my red shirt!". The battle was on, and once again the Captain and his crew repelled both boarding parties, although this time more casualties occurred.

Weary from the battles, the men sat around on deck that night recounting the day's occurrences when an ensign looked to the Captain and asked, "Sir, why did you call for your red shirt before the battle?". The Captain, giving the ensign a look that only a captain can give, exhorted, "If I am wounded in battle, the red shirt does not show the wound and thus, you men will continue to fight unafraid". The men sat in silence marveling at the courage of such a man.

As dawn came the next morning, the lookout screamed that there were pirate ships, 10 of them, all with boarding parties on their way. The men became silent and looked to their Captain for his usual command. The Captain, calm as ever, bellowed, "Bring me my brown pants!

146 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:32:32am

re: #143 redc1c4

%-)

/your grocery store doesn't have a Deli?

147 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:33:04am

re: #138 IslandLibertarian

think Sylvester the cat...

When Mel Blanc was trying to develop a voice for Sylvester, he was having great trouble. His boss, Leon Schlesigner, was on him to develop this new character's voice as soon as possible.

After one discussion between them was over, Mel was making fun of Leon by saying Sylvester's lines in Leon's notorious lisp. Everyone else thought it was great, and they did some demo reels that way.

When they showed it to Schlesigner, he didn't realize he was being made fun of, and loved the voice which has now become famous as Sylester the Cat!

According to Mel Blanc, Leon's first reaction was, "That's hilariouth! Where do get thethe ideaths?"

148 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:34:00am

re: #146 Killian Bundy

/your grocery store doesn't have a Deli?

who cares? i can cook...

/and i enjoy it. %-)

149 LeePro  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:34:42am

Gotta go get rested up... big day in the kitchen tomorrow — mine and daughter's (where all the 10-people, 1 kid, 3-dog action will be) — and an even bigger one on Thursday!

G'nite, lizards!

150 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:35:13am

re: #148 redc1c4

who cares? i can cook...

/and i enjoy it. %-)

I learned early.

/I hate it

151 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:35:31am

re: #149 LeePro

Gotta go get rested up... big day in the kitchen tomorrow — mine and daughter's (where all the 10-people, 1 kid, 3-dog action will be) — and an even bigger one on Thursday!

G'nite, lizards!

we're still remodeling ours...

/maybe next week?

152 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:35:45am

Bye Lee- Happy Thanksgiving!

153 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:36:45am

I just saw on Red Eye That Colmes is leaving Hannity and Colmes. He sounded as if it was not his idea. Anybody have any information on this? I found nothing on the Fox website.

154 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:36:56am

re: #149 LeePro

Gotta go get rested up... big day in the kitchen tomorrow — mine and daughter's (where all the 10-people, 1 kid, 3-dog action will be) — and an even bigger one on Thursday!

G'nite, lizards!

Good nite!

155 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:37:12am

Night {LeePro}, may your kitchen adventures be fun.

156 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:38:01am

re: #147 gmsc

That is a great illustration of life's irony.
Some people get all the breaks - even when they are being just plain mean.

157 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:38:01am

re: #153 fiat_lux

I just saw on Red Eye That Colmes is leaving Hannity and Colmes. He sounded as if it was not his idea. Anybody have any information on this? I found nothing on the Fox website.

/there was an LGF thread on it yesterday two days ago

158 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:38:13am

re: #150 Killian Bundy

I learned early.

/I hate it

bummer dude... it's my one consistent relaxation.

MRE's or fresh ingredients, cooking up a mess of grub is my escape...

(that, and drinking, of course. %-)

/white smoke

159 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:38:14am

re: #147 gmsc

Divinely inspired writings:
Bible,
Bhagivadgita,
Torah,
Warner Brother's Loony Tunes

160 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:40:18am

re: #153 fiat_lux

Colmes Leaving

161 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:40:25am

re: #158 redc1c4

bummer dude... it's my one consistent relaxation.

MRE's or fresh ingredients, cooking up a mess of grub is my escape...

(that, and drinking, of course. %-)

/white smoke

one of life's pleasures... Making up a fine meal for two from whatevers in the frig.

162 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:41:25am

re: #158 redc1c4

MRE's are evil on earth. Even the small bottle of hot sauce didn't help the one I got one time. Went hungry instead.

/after gagging after each bite, I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

163 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:42:12am

re: #160 slokat

Colmes Leaving

From what I've heard, the show will basically be turned into a 5-days-a-week version of "Hannity's America".

164 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:42:13am

re: #157 Killian Bundy

Thanks. I missed it. proves that this is the place to be to be informed.

165 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:42:16am

re: #160 slokat

"We have a Democratic House, Senate and president," Colmes said in an interview. "My work is done."

nuf said. Bye Alan.

166 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:42:37am

re: #161 Mel Lono

one of life's pleasures... Making up a fine meal for two from whatevers in the frig.


amen.

we did that here tonight... the new & improved kitchen may not be ready until next week.

(no, i wasn't in charge of the scheduling... %-)

167 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:43:24am

re: #153 fiat_lux

I just saw on Red Eye That Colmes is leaving Hannity and Colmes. He sounded as if it was not his idea. Anybody have any information on this? I found nothing on the Fox website.

That was my idea.

*cracks knuckles*

168 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:44:46am

re: #166 redc1c4

/I bet you know how to BBQ a turkey, but can you make oyster stuffing?

169 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:44:56am

re: #162 BlueCanuck

MRE's are evil on earth. Even the small bottle of hot sauce didn't help the one I got one time. Went hungry instead.

/after gagging after each bite, I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

then you weren't really hungry. unless you got the ham and chicken loaf, of course.

/made ham and mothers sound good

170 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:46:20am

re: #168 Mel Lono

/I bet you know how to BBQ a turkey, but can you make oyster stuffing?

i get them on the half shell and let HRH eat all she wants...

/nasty things

if God had wanted us to eat seafood, she wouldn't have made the land animals so easy to catch.

171 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:46:30am

re: #169 redc1c4

The long-gone chicken & rice MRE's weren't so bad- I prefered them over most.

172 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:47:55am

re: #171 Fenway_Nation

The long-gone chicken & rice MRE's weren't so bad- I prefered them over most.

just add cheese spread and the neighbor's bottle of Tabasco, along with your own. %-)

173 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:48:14am

re: #170 redc1c4

i get them on the half shell and let HRH eat all she wants...
No wonder she's HRH. You're the one who's supposed to be eating them!

174 Sprite  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:48:24am

re: #30 Killian Bundy

Try Kikkoman's Roasted Garlic and Herbs Marinade.

Hit it with some 'smoke spray': water, liquid smoke and a little oil while grilling.

175 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:50:34am

i'm doing a "beer butt" turkey for T-day (12#'s) on the WSM over charcoal and guava wood... gonna have to rig stuffing and yams on the grill, since the kitchen is deadlined... that means a store run tomorrow/today.

176 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:52:06am

re: #162 BlueCanuck

MRE's are evil on earth. Even the small bottle of hot sauce didn't help the one I got one time. Went hungry instead.

/after gagging after each bite, I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

You two missed the fun of C-Rats...:)

177 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:52:24am

re: #169 redc1c4

Corned beef and hash I think it was. After that exercise I finally understood why American troops were willing to trade anything for our rations.

/of course the story of the offer of the M16 may have been aphocyrphal, but other gear wasn't off limits apparently.

178 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:52:48am

A story from last Thanksgiving - I sat down with my plate beside my 6 year old nephew. I had turkey, dressing...the fixins. He had a huge pile of corn. And he was shoveling it in like he was starving!

I asked him, "Hey William, why don't you have any turkey or other stuff on your plate"?, and he answered, "I love corn. Any kind of corn - even that slimey kind, and the corn on a stick. If anyone wanted to know what to get me for my birthday, corn would be good!"

I found out later that the "slimey kind" was "creamed corn" and the "corn on a stick" was "corn on the cob".

His parents have the responsibility to bring corn for our family Thanksgiving meal...

179 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:53:03am

re: #173 Mel Lono

i get them on the half shell and let HRH eat all she wants...
No wonder she's HRH. You're the one who's supposed to be eating them!

in my case, that would be carrying coals to Newcastle...
how is your prescription w*rking for you these days?

/white smoke

180 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:53:57am

re: #178 Intrepid

A story from last Thanksgiving - I sat down with my plate beside my 6 year old nephew. I had turkey, dressing...the fixins. He had a huge pile of corn. And he was shoveling it in like he was starving!

I asked him, "Hey William, why don't you have any turkey or other stuff on your plate"?, and he answered, "I love corn. Any kind of corn - even that slimey kind, and the corn on a stick. If anyone wanted to know what to get me for my birthday, corn would be good!"

I found out later that the "slimey kind" was "creamed corn" and the "corn on a stick" was "corn on the cob".

His parents have the responsibility to bring corn for our family Thanksgiving meal...

Uncle?

181 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:53:58am

re: #172 redc1c4

Heh- I call that dollhouse Tabasco. My big sis used to have a dollhouse- I think it's still in my folks' garage to this day along with an old HO scale trainset I used to have. But at some point, my mom opted to decorate the living room with this vartical tray with some of the little dollhouse knick-nacks and HO Scale accesories (little cars or signposts etc.). One time when I was on leave, I showed her one of the itty bitty Tabasco bottles and she just had to add that to the collection- I think it's still up there.

182 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:53:58am

re: #176 Dustyvet

Had the IRP's inflicted on me when I was in cadets up here once. It was. . . Interesting. . . .

/some colored smoke

183 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:54:35am

re: #175 redc1c4

I'll throw a toast your way. T-day is big at the bar and i've got first shift til whenever. Friends and dinner waiting. Planning to bring a couple of n.Beaujolais.

184 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:54:40am

re: #176 Dustyvet

You two missed the fun of C-Rats...:)

no i didn't... ham and eggs, chopped was my personal fave, along with pound cake and pears. (or the blackberry jam)

185 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:55:07am

re: #177 BlueCanuck

Corned beef and hash I think it was. After that exercise I finally understood why American troops were willing to trade anything for our rations.

/of course the story of the offer of the M16 may have been aphocyrphal, but other gear wasn't off limits apparently.

Best rations I ever had was what the Aussie Diggers used to trade to us while I was in Vietnam 67-68.

186 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:55:58am

Thailand seeks clarification on sinking of "pirate" ship

Ship it attacked was hostile says Indian navy

Well, it was hijacked and sunk after firing first?

/how many fully laden Japanese prison ships did we sink in WWII?

187 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:56:55am

re: #184 redc1c4

no i didn't... ham and eggs, chopped was my personal fave, along with pound cake and pears. (or the blackberry jam)

Your the only person I've ever encountered who likes ham and eggs chopped...:)

188 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:57:11am

re: #180 gmsc

Uncle?

Aunt. A very amused one...

;-)

189 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:57:24am

re: #183 Mel Lono

I'll throw a toast your way. T-day is big at the bar and i've got first shift til whenever. Friends and dinner waiting. Planning to bring a couple of n.Beaujolais.

we've got several years of Tobin James Pinot Noir that i may break out for the day... either that or the old fave Zinfandel.

190 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:57:42am

re: #186 Killian Bundy

Here's hoping the Indians documented the crucial portions of the exchange on video.

191 nnorb  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:58:53am

re: #46 gmsc

A few years back, there was a protest against the FSU Floroida Seminoles, claiming that the name and the image of their mascot Chief Osceola were offensive to actual Native Americans.

That protest was cut short the sports team pointed out that their mascot and name were used with the official sanction of the people of the actual Seminole tribe.


My Son Graduated there, (with his Doctorate at 24, just gratuitous bragging). Anyways, the Seminole tribe actually attends and is the color guard for EVERY graduation. They take it very seriously.

Norb

192 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:58:54am

re: #187 Dustyvet

Your the only person I've ever encountered who likes ham and eggs chopped...:)

i really did like them, and no one else did... made for a full belly. %-)

193 Sprite  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 12:59:16am

Message for you at #174, Killian.

G'night All and happy turkey day.

194 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:00:06am

re: #192 redc1c4

i really did like them, and no one else did... made for a full belly. %-)

That same idea applied to me and Ham and Lima beans...:)

195 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:00:25am

re: #188 Intrepid

Aunt. A very amused one...

;-)

Oops . . . sorry.

I love corn, too!

I just recently discovered a microwave corn that comes out perfect, and even tastes buttery!

/No, not popcorn, regular corn

196 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:01:07am

re: #187 Dustyvet

Your the only person I've ever encountered who likes ham and eggs chopped...:)

Do you like Green Eggs and Ham?

197 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:01:24am

re: #175 redc1c4

i'm doing a "beer butt" turkey for T-day (12#'s) on the WSM over charcoal and guava wood... gonna have to rig stuffing and yams on the grill, since the kitchen is deadlined... that means a store run tomorrow/today.

/sure you're qualified to step that recipe up from chicken to turkey?

198 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:01:52am

i'm outta here...

all this talk has made me hungry, but there's no where to snack, so i'm for the rack, since i'm too tired to wait for the altered fruitcup. (still marinading %-)

hasta y'all...

L8r!

199 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:02:43am

re: #194 Dustyvet

That same idea applied to me and Ham and Lima beans...:)

just had to toss out the mothers and it was tolerable, except for the big chunks of fat...

200 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:03:19am

re: #198 redc1c4

i'm outta here...

all this talk has made me hungry, but there's no where to snack, so i'm for the rack, since i'm too tired to wait for the altered fruitcup. (still marinading %-)

hasta y'all...

L8r!

Good nite my friend. Show the cooks some love! Be good all.

201 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:03:38am

re: #193 Sprite

Message for you at #174, Killian.

G'night All and happy turkey day.

/back atcha

202 Intrepid  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:04:12am

re: #195 gmsc

Oops . . . sorry.

I love corn, too!

I just recently discovered a microwave corn that comes out perfect, and even tastes buttery!

/No, not popcorn, regular corn

What is it with guys and corn?

203 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:04:41am

re: #165 Mel Lono

How about Rachel Madcow as a replacement? She has primo gig on PMSNBC but she would be a good foil for Hannity. She's articulate, smart and is cute in a butch sort of way...not that there is anything wrong with that. Hannity & Hannity would but be to much Hannity IMHO.

204 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:05:50am

re: #196 gmsc

Do you like Green Eggs and Ham?

Oh no Sam I am, I could not, would not eat green eggs and ham...;)

205 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:06:36am

re: #197 Killian Bundy

/sure you're qualified to step that recipe up from chicken to turkey?

not the first time i've done this... toldya i *like* to cook.

my WSSM

206 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:07:30am

re: #168 Mel Lono

/I bet you know how to BBQ a turkey, but can you make oyster stuffing?

Morning Lizards. I am bbq my bird on the weber tomorrow. Would love to have your oyster stuffing Mel.

207 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:08:05am

re: #200 Mel Lono

Good nite my friend. Show the cooks some love! Be good all.

PS: i'm using a Fosters can for the turkey... %-)

208 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:08:17am

Damn it. Have to get a place where I can use a proper smoker, or build a moderate simulation of one.

209 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:08:39am

re: #206 Erik The Red

Morning Lizards. I am bbq my bird on the weber tomorrow. Would love to have your oyster stuffing Mel.

kettle or WSM?

210 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:09:40am

re: #208 BlueCanuck

Damn it. Have to get a place where I can use a proper smoker, or build a moderate simulation of one.

the WSM has a real small footprint, unless you have no outside area at all...

211 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:10:13am

re: #205 redc1c4

not the first time i've done this... toldya i *like* to cook.

my WSSM

Alright, beer butt turkey.

/will there be mashed potatoes and stuffing, you know, the traditional trifecta?

212 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:12:19am

re: #210 redc1c4

No outside area at all. May have to work on that in the new year. Man can't live by roasting, frying, and baking alone. Need to grill and BBQ as well. :)

213 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:12:19am

re: #209 redc1c4

kettle or WSM?

kettle whats WSM. I'm in the bush here in S.Africa

214 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:12:52am

re: #211 Killian Bundy

Alright, beer butt turkey.

/will there be mashed potatoes and stuffing, you know, the traditional trifecta?

she said she wanted yams and stuffing. the kitchen is in the middle of a remodel, so i'm short on resources, and it's just us and the cats.

taht and i *really* need to go to bed...

215 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:13:24am

re: #202 Intrepid

What is it with guys and corn?

I like the taste, and its good for you!

It probably has something to do with the fact that it goes so well with meat.

216 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:14:53am

re: #211 Killian Bundy

Finally played COD 'World at War'...

I do like it, they did all they could to keep the COD4 playability / story attempt...but there is just something...can't quite place it yet, something not quite as fulfilling as COD4 was. But it is pretty gripping at times.

So far I have enjoyed it.

217 redc1c4  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:15:30am

re: #213 Erik The Red

kettle whats WSM. I'm in the bush here in S.Africa

Weber Smokey Mountain and as modified by me.

it's a vertical or "bullet" smoker, from it's shape. simple, easy to use and very reliable. as usual, a few minor modifications from factory spec improve it's performance... %-)

218 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:17:04am

re: #217 redc1c4

Weber Smokey Mountain and as modified by me.

it's a vertical or "bullet" smoker, from it's shape. simple, easy to use and very reliable. as usual, a few minor modifications from factory spec improve it's performance... %-)

Very cool. Me pappy has a smoker...it is a monster. You can fit half a cow in that think at least.

219 Sprite  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:20:54am

re: #217 redc1c4

I checked out all your photos. Nice. Used to work in construction defect litigation...

Great BBQ foundation and bullet extension!

/My Big Chief works great, too.

G'night!

220 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:21:22am

Must assist in Thanksgiving festivities.

Later all. Happy Thanksgiving to all Lizards who celebrate it and for those who don't we can all give thanks for something or other whether or not we have an official holiday or not.

221 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:22:26am

re: #216 Oh no...Sand People!

Finally played COD 'World at War'...

I do like it, they did all they could to keep the COD4 playability / story attempt...but there is just something...can't quite place it yet, something not quite as fulfilling as COD4 was. But it is pretty gripping at times.

So far I have enjoyed it.

Back to WWII weapons? Thanks, dogs seem to anecdotally produce more kills that helicopters in multiplayer.

/okay, I'll buy it, I need a couple other things from Amazon anyway

222 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:23:31am

For some reason, I'm imagining the Somali pirates recieving their ransom payments in person from agents of the various governments who's vessels were hijacked and coming up with different scenarios for different nationalities.

Scene cuts to a flat, barren, windswept Puntland desert- a sweaty Persian man in a 20-years-out-of-style suit with two stoic Revolutionary Guards in uniform at his side prepares to hand off two sizeable suitcases to the Somali pirate leader as some militamen stand watch over the proceedings:

Persian emissary: As per our agreement, $25,000,000.

The Somali pirate leader eagely picks up the first suitcase and begins to enthusiastically thumb through the currency when his facial expression changes. He is clearly agitated as he holds up a cluster of pinkish banknotes bundled together- every last one of them with Arabic script and with Ayatollah Khomeni's glowering face peering up at him.

Somali Pirate Leader: WHAT IS THIS!?

Persian emissary: Unfortunately, our foreign currency reserves are running low, so we are paying you the equivalent of $25,000,000 in Rials.

Somali Pirate Leader: THESE ARE WORTHLESS- HOW DARE YOU!?[Furiously heaves the suitcase back to the Persian, depositing millions of Rials worth of nearly worthless banknotes on the desert floor]

The pirate leader then shouts to the assembled militiamen in a Somali dialect, and half a second later the desert air bristles with the sound of 30-year old AK47s being cocked and trained on the Persians

223 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:31:15am

re: #222 Fenway_Nation

You keep doing it. At this time of the morning for some reason you make a post and everything stops. You're supposd to make good your threats, only after you make threats. See what I am saying?

224 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:32:46am

re: #222 Fenway_Nation

This won't last much longer before people get really serious.

/lots of options, plenty of proxys

225 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:34:21am

re: #222 Fenway_Nation

How would Thomas Jefferson deal with such a situation where piracy was impeding commercial shipping? Appeal to the United Nations?

226 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:35:29am

re: #225 fiat_lux

Wasn't he the one that said, "Millions for defence, and not a penny for tribute." ?

/in response to the Barbary pirates I think.

227 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:39:23am
228 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:40:07am

re: #218 Oh no...Sand People!

My G_d what do you smoke in that? A 1000 pound cow/

229 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:40:21am

re: #225 fiat_lux

How would Thomas Jefferson deal with such a situation where piracy was impeding commercial shipping? Appeal to the United Nations?

We've already ruled out using the U.S. Navy to overtly solve this problem.

/it's Saudi Arabia's problem and ironically Iran's in a lather over it, sit back and enjoy your popcorn Thanksgiving holiday

230 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:41:57am

OR Somewhere in the remote, barren, windswept Puntland desert, a dapper Russian in a suit is standing in front of the local pirate leader and local militiamen by himself. In each hand is two attache cases that he hands off to the pirates.

Somali pirate as he enthusiastically opens up one of the briefcases and sees nothing but bundles of $100 bills inside: Excellent, Mr. Kozlov. I'm sure there's no need to count it.

Kozlov [speaking with the sinister Slavic drawl that's a feature of every post 9/11 Hollywood terrorist]: I'm sure there isn't. However, it is your money. Do what you please...

Distracted by the vast fortune in hard currency before him, the pirate leader turns and notices that one of the militiamen appears to have tripped and fallen off of his machine-gun laden pickup (technical)- however, he seems to be bleeding profusely from his head. To his horror, dozens of Sepnatz operatives have popped out of spider holes and are stealthily killing the unsuspecting militiamen with silenced machine pistols or a knife in the kindey. Too late, the pirate leader tries shouting out a warning to his men.

Somali pirate leader [fearfully]: What is the meaning of this Kozlov? We had a deal...

The dapper Russian flashes a toothy, menacing grin as one of the Sepnatz men approaches and tosses him an ancient AK from one of the dead Somali henchmen.

Kozlov: I said you'd get your money, I never said how long you would live to enjoy it.

231 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:43:41am

re: #230 Fenway_Nation

I like that scenario even better. Unfortunately it's russians in that part. Makes you wonder why they haven't done it already though.

232 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:48:29am

re: #231 BlueCanuck

I like that scenario even better. Unfortunately it's russians in that part. Makes you wonder why they haven't done it already though.

Because . . . ?

/don't take a meteorite to wipe out most life on earth before I figure out what was going on, if I live through it

233 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:48:33am

re: #229 Killian Bundy

I didn't rule it out. I believe in the Powell doctrine: Strike with overwhelming force to destroy a threat. If out naval forces are "stretched thin" we are totally inadequate to face the threat of a major military force.

234 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:49:53am

re: #231 BlueCanuck

I'd like to think an American specil ops group could pull this off, but I can't imagine president h0pe and change 0bama even tacitly signing off on something like this. Plus...American ground troops in the Horn of Africa with a Democrat in the White House? Didn't work out so well, last time.

Russians also would probably wait for sunset, take the pirates' vehicles back to their home village and massacre everyone in their clans in the middle of the night.

235 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:52:21am

re: #234 Fenway_Nation

I'd like to think an American specil ops group could pull this off

/it'll take much more

236 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:54:15am

re: #235 Killian Bundy

Well all we would have to do is stop the piracy. One way is taking out boats that are capable of doing it. Quick, simple, and always at night. I think they would learn eventually.

237 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:56:44am

re: #229 Killian Bundy

We have the most awere: #226 BlueCanuck

Thomas Jefferson sent the navy and marines to combat the Barbary pirates rather than do what Europe did for decades: Pay tribute (read bribes). He shamed Great Britain and France to get involved and they enventually eliminated that Islamic threat.

238 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:59:26am

I have...what?...two minutes to not kill the thread before the fruitcup arrives.

239 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 1:59:57am

re: #238 Fenway_Nation

Nope, it's now.

240 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

241 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:00:10am

Thanks lol.

242 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:00:29am

Due to the banana boat being hijacked by pirates in the Gulf of Aden, there will be no fruitcup...

243 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:00:35am

Good morning littleoldlady. How goes things today?

244 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:01:25am

Don't even talk to me. I'm not here.

/driveby fruiting...

Don't ask. You don't want to know. Somebody shoot me now.

/driveby fruiting

Hi ALL!

Byeee

245 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:02:10am

re: #236 BlueCanuck

Well all we would have to do is stop the piracy. One way is taking out boats that are capable of doing it. Quick, simple, and always at night. I think they would learn eventually.

Somali has over 2400 miles of coastline, do the math, count the number of NATO ships and divide.

/this will be eventually solved on land by who knows

246 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:02:51am

BlueCanuckFenwayNationEriktheRedfiat_luxKillianBundyLGF

Happy Frikken Thanksgiving!

247 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:03:30am

re: #246 littleoldlady

BlueCanuckFenwayNationEriktheRedfiat_lux KillianBundyLGF

Happy Frikken Thanksgiving!

You seem to be in a good mood this morning/

248 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:03:38am

re: #246 littleoldlady

Love you, lol!

249 littleoldlady  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:04:10am

re: #247 Erik The Red

I DO?!

ACK!

Byeforrealnow!

250 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:04:12am

re: #244 littleoldlady

Here she comes, here she is, there she goes.

/who was that masked lady?

251 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:04:15am

re: #247 Erik The Red

You seem to be in a good mood this morning/

Hope it gets better as the day goes on.

252 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:05:00am

re: #251 Erik The Red

Well, if it starts like this it can only get better.

253 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:07:13am

re: #252 BlueCanuck

Well, if it starts like this it can only get better.

Never count on that.

254 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:07:31am

We should do a little boolean chart on who's affected by the pirates, how they're affected and their course of actions/wishful thinking...

Saudis- want to pay off pirates
Americans- considers them a nuisance- taking a 'wait and see' approach for now (I would not rule out the possibility of some of them being recruited)
Iranians- wishes they could pay off the pirates
Ethiopians- Pirates are of secondary concern. Has infantry in Mogadishu combatting Islamists
Indians- reportedly fired the first salvo in this latest round of piracy
Thais- Just want their trawler back
Russians- seeks to massacre the pirates, their children and their as-of-yet-unborn children

255 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:08:00am

re: #253 Sharmuta

*ssshhh* I am a glass half full kinda guy.

/and looking for the next refill.

256 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:08:07am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Good morning!

257 akak  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:08:12am

re: #245 Killian Bundy

Somali has over 2400 miles of coastline, do the math, count the number of NATO ships and divide.

/this will be eventually solved on land by who knows

Probably by some country who doesn't care about playing by the rules, which is fine really-because it's the companies problem.

258 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:09:29am

re: #245 Killian Bundy

Somali has over 2400 miles of coastline, do the math, count the number of NATO ships and divide.

/this will be eventually solved on land by who knows

I figure all we have to do is convince the left that the pirates are doing serious harm to the environment, and let them do all the work.

259 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:11:13am

re: #258 gmsc

Greenpeace versus Somali pirates? Is it wrong for me to wish for a tie? A bloody and protracted draw- kind of like the the Iranians dispatched Revolutionary Guards to deal with the situation?

A bloody and protracted three-way tie?

260 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:11:33am

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Greenpeace versus Somali pirates? Is it wrong for me to wish for a tie? A bloody and protracted draw- kind of like the the Iranians dispatched Revolutionary Guards to deal with the situation?

A bloody and protracted three-way tie?

Sounds good to me!

261 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:12:17am

re: #246 littleoldlady

Happy Thanksgiving! we have have just been injected with new energy. I loves me my fruit cup and I shall not be late.

262 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:13:58am

re: #260 gmsc

Somalis and Revolutionary Guards shoot each other and Greenpeace to shit. The inescapable funk and BO over the Greenpeacers overwhelms the Somalis and Iranians...

263 Dave_Da_Kid  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:14:55am

I ran across this in my morning reading. Some of you might remember a little Civics quiz that some lizards were taking the other day. 33 questions. Most of us scored pretty well on it. Well it seems the general voting public is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. Check this out..

264 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:15:07am

Most bizarre thing I've found on Wikipedia: The Paul Bunyan article

The article begins:

Paul Bunyan is a mythological lumberjack who appears in tall tales of American folklore.

. . . yet above this is the warning:

This article needs additional citations for verification.

That may be kind of tough.
;)

265 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:16:16am

re: #254 Fenway_Nation

Saudis- want to pay off pirates

You're dead wrong there or they'd already have it back.

/you can't imagine how pissed off they are and what they're doing, the concept of supreme [expletive deleted] list comes to mind, this will not go unpunished

266 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:22:44am

I wish I were a spaceman, the fastest guy alive. I'd fly you 'round the universe in Fireball XL-5.

267 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:29:07am

Way out in space together.
Conquerors of the sky.
My heart would be a fireball.
fireball.
Every time I gaze into your starry eyes.

268 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:29:29am

Well- at least I got some fruitcup before this thread died...

and not at my hands, I might add.

269 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:29:50am

re: #265 Killian Bundy

/supreme

/Eternity's Breath

270 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:32:27am

re: #268 Fenway_Nation

This thread is not dead until I say it's dead! Okay, it's dead.

271 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:32:53am

re: #268 Fenway_Nation

I will still blame you, after all you are the only one that threatens to kill it. ;)

272 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:33:38am

I was gonna ransom it for some fruitcup...

/honest!

273 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:36:41am

Trivia question. Who introduced the scalloped guitar keyboard?

/take your time, Google only if you can't guess

274 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:37:05am

By the way, Blue- Leafs lost 5-2 tonight. Some headline read 'New Look Leafs fall to Atlanta'.

My initial thought was Wait a second- they got their asses kicked? How is that a New look for the Maple Leafs?

275 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:41:03am

re: #273 Killian Bundy

Scalloped guitar fretboard?

/my bad

276 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:41:52am

re: #274 Fenway_Nation

5-2? I thought it was 6-4? That's what I thought I saw at the bar.

277 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:47:22am

Nope, my bad. 6-3 for Atlanta. Once again the Make Be-Leafs are showing their best side once again.

/if they ever win another Cup, this town will explode.
//And I will be miles away just in case.

278 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:47:37am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

We both were wrong- it was 6-3.

/will be paying much closer attention to the big Bruins/Sabres game tonight.

279 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:49:04am

re: #278 Fenway_Nation

Of course you will. You actually have a hockey team in your town.

/man if people find out what I post about our hockey team, I would be lynched.

280 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:51:37am

re: #275 Killian Bundy

Please hip me. I don't know what a scalloped fret board is

281 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:53:41am

re: #279 BlueCanuck

But up until April of last season, people hardly acknowledged there was a Boston hockey team that didn't participate in the Beanpot.

282 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 2:58:54am

re: #279 BlueCanuck

I've heard rumours there is a hockey team in Toronto, but there is no imperical evidence to support such a wild conjecture.

283 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:01:11am

re: #282 Kenneth

I know there's some evidence of such an entity existing in the past. But the old Gardens seems to be vacant. There's rumours of another rink somewhere on the Lakeshore. . . .

284 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:03:06am

Alright, I have to get this in.

re: #280 fiat_lux

Please hip me. I don't know what a scalloped fret board is

Well, you could Wiki it, cross reference John McLaughlin.

/but I'm afraid I'm going to have to club you over the head with non-conventional '70s music

285 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:04:15am

re: #279 BlueCanuck

I'm a little bewildered by their popularity...it's almost like the Cleveland Browns of the NHL. With their Steelers right up the 401.

286 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:07:07am

re: #284 Killian Bundy

*Tunes out KB's 70s music with a vintage Queensryche CD. The 90's are alive and well in Casa de Fenway.*

/has been drunk in Seattle- as recently as May in some Coyote Ugly ripoff honkytonk. Cover charge was paid in a can of energy drink.

287 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:08:56am

re: #283 BlueCanuck

Sure, there's a rink... but has anbody has ever seen a hockey team in the vicinity of it?

288 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:09:41am

re: #287 Kenneth

Usually from out of town only. Strange. . . .

289 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:10:46am

re: #287 Kenneth

Only when the Bruins/Red Wings/Canadiens/Sabres/Penguins/Hurricanes/Pretty Much Any Other Team in the League show up to play the elusive Toronto 'team'.

290 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:13:46am

re: #286 Fenway_Nation

*Tunes out KB's 70s music with a vintage Queensryche CD. The 90's are alive and well in Casa de Fenway.*

/try turning out Wembley and tell me England's [expletive deleted]

291 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:18:24am

...Is the moon a myth?
-Ali G-

292 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:18:45am

re: #290 Killian Bundy


Just out of curiosity, are you censoring yourself or is there some sort of fucking fuckity-fuck fuck motherfucking filter?

/I'll know soon enough

293 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:19:44am

re: #292 Fenway_Nation

He's being polite, which is nice sometimes. Me I like a good full fledged curse out. It's so Fraking nice sometimes.

294 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:20:10am

Good morning, Lizards!

295 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:21:19am

re: #284 Killian Bundy

Thank you for the Genesis link. I remember genesis from the 70's. I lost interest in the scalloped part when I spent way too much time trying to figure out what it is.

296 NYCHardhat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:22:56am

I posted this last night. I will try and push this through Congress as part of my bailout program.

NYCHardhat's Government Cheese Cake

(2) 8 oz packages of cream cheese
(2) pints of sour cream
1 cup of sugar
2 tsp of vanilla extract
1/2 tsp of almond extract
1/4 tsp of salt
3 eggs beaten well

Have all the ingredients at room temperature. Soften cream cheese and add sugar, salt, vanilla, almond, and then sour cream. After those are mixed, fold in the 3 beaten eggs. 325 degrees F for 45-50 min

297 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:24:09am

re: #292 Fenway_Nation

Just out of curiosity, are you censoring yourself

/what you want to know that I know?

298 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:24:49am

Good morning {goddess}.

299 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:25:40am

Karzai demands timeline for victory
Frustrated President condemns foreign forces for failing to defeat Taliban, alienating ordinary Afghans

Afghan President Hamid Karzai warned yesterday that unless Western armies can defeat the Taliban, and provide a clear victory date, then he will be forced to sue for peace with the rebels.

"Afghans don't understand any more how come a little force like the Taliban can continue to exist, can continue to flourish, can continue to launch attacks, with [troops from] 40 countries in Afghanistan, with entire NATO force in Afghanistan, with entire international community behind them, still we are not able to defeat the Taliban," Mr. Karzai said. "There must be a problem somewhere."

Two things:

1. The Taliban is still a problem because they have sanctuary in Pakistan, the Gulf Arabs fund them & the Afghan gov't is corrupt,
2. The only thing preventing the Taliban from killing Karzai is NATO.

300 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:27:01am

{BlueCanuck}

Yesterday was my last bug fall project: a forensics (public speaking) tournament. Parent conferences today and then Thanksgiving break!

301 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:28:21am

re: #295 fiat_lux

Thank you for the Genesis link. I remember genesis from the 70's. I lost interest in the scalloped part when I spent way too much time trying to figure out what it is.

/I lost interest in the scalloped part

302 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:28:33am

re: #299 Kenneth

Wait...weren't the Dems trying to convince us that Afghanistan was the 'good' war?

303 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:28:40am

WHY DOES THE PAGE GO BACK TO TOP EVERY TIME I HIT "NEW COMMENTS"?

304 SolidOcelot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:31:12am

re: #303 goddessoftheclassroom

WHY DOES THE PAGE GO BACK TO TOP EVERY TIME I HIT "NEW COMMENTS"?

The Hildebeest has cursed you.

305 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:31:16am

re: #303 goddessoftheclassroom

Have you down a page refresh yet?

/at least you aren't been kicked to the front page.

306 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:34:05am

re: #302 Fenway_Nation

Only some Dems like to pretend that. Most of them know it's another Bushcheneyhalliburtonzionist illegal war for oil.

Hey, Obama has decided to keep Gates as Sec Def & has picked Gen. James Jones as his National Security advisor. Moonbat heads must be popping!

307 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:37:44am

re: #303 goddessoftheclassroom

Cause you were mean to that kid.

/

308 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:39:51am

re: #303 goddessoftheclassroom

WHY DOES THE PAGE GO BACK TO TOP EVERY TIME I HIT "NEW COMMENTS"?

Woke up this morning thinking about your play. Hopefully that it finished up well, and that the nerves subsided.

309 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:40:25am

Speaking of Queensryche, this sounds pretty interesting.

Like all things entertainment-industry related, I was worried it might be an overbearing, one-sided anti-Iraq War screed, but I don't think Tate would go through the trouble of interviewing WWII Vets if the focus was primarily the Iraq War/Operation Enduring Freedom.

310 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:41:39am

Israeli hawks ready to fly on Iran

"We have to confront the Iranian revolution immediately," he told me. "There is no way to stabilise the Middle East today without defeating the Iranian regime. The Iranian nuclear program must be stopped."

311 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:41:40am

re: #301 Killian Bundy

Okay. I Get it. I found the same links. Fingers touch only the strings not the fretboard. I book marked a page on how to scallop a fretboard. I have several so maybe I can experiment.

312 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:42:38am

By the way, if I-90 starts in Boston (right outside of Fenway Park) and ends in Seattle (right up the road from SafeCo)- does that make Seattle and Boston 'Sister cities'?

313 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:43:20am

{FBV}!

I've received so many compliments on the play--I'm very pleased. The mom of "that kid" wrote a letter asking that he be removed from one of my elective classes because of a "personality conflict." I hope I get the chance to confront the parents and the student in front of the principal.

314 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:44:08am

re: #311 fiat_lux

What's yer polar bear eating? Please tell me that's Al Gore.

315 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:44:30am

re: #313 goddessoftheclassroom

Personality conflict? You mean the parents personality conflicted with a real education?

316 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:47:17am

re: #313 goddessoftheclassroom

When I was in high school we did some very brave plays. Had some over-reaching (more our talent could match) musicals. Oklahoma, West Side Story, Wizard of Oz...

We'd have 50 - 60 kids in a cast. Don't see that anymore around here. Kinda sad.

317 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:48:52am

re: #316 fat bastard vegetarian

Oh, in retrospect, other than a few kids with real talent, the shows royally sucked. And we had a ball, and so did our audiences.

318 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:50:17am

re: #317 fat bastard vegetarian

Sometimes it's the enthusiasim that will get the crowd to it's feet. Besides most of the crowd is friends and family. They won't crush spirits of their family.

/well unless the play is truly horrible.

319 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:52:11am

I teach in a junior high. The musical I choose has to have orchestration that our junior high musicians can play (we have live music). THAT'S the biggest limitation, although of course it can't be too tough on our vocalists, too. In terms of acting, though, our talent is amazing.

320 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:52:13am

re: #314 fat bastard vegetarian

We can only hope it is Al Bore. My guess (considering the extent of the carnage) is that it is a walrus or a whale. Notice the birdie waiting for his share.

321 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:52:38am

re: #318 BlueCanuck

Oh yes...but, actually, back in the day, we'd sell out six shows that sat 600 people in the auditorium. Was a really big deal.

322 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:52:55am

re: #311 fiat_lux

Okay. I Get it. I found the same links. Fingers touch only the strings not the fretboard. I book marked a page on how to scallop a fretboard. I have several so maybe I can experiment.

re: #311 fiat_lux

Okay. I Get it. I found the same links. Fingers touch only the strings not the fretboard. I book marked a page on how to scallop a fretboard. I have several so maybe I can experiment.

/don't start carving out your instrument

323 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:53:54am

re: #320 fiat_lux

Around these parts we call those birds dump ducks. I think the carcass is a whale. Walruses are large, but not that large.

324 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:54:15am

re: #321 fat bastard vegetarian

Of course I am speaking of the 1870's; peoples entertainment choices were fairly limited.

325 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:54:37am

Have a great day, Lizards! I've got to ready to meet my students' parents.

326 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:55:12am

re: #324 fat bastard vegetarian

Of course I am speaking of the 1870's; peoples entertainment choices were fairly limited.

I didn't think you were THAT old. :)

327 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:55:33am

Bye goddess, have yourself a good day.

328 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:55:43am

re: #323 BlueCanuck

Around these parts we call those birds dump ducks. I think the carcass is a whale. Walruses are large, but not that large.

How can a polar bear drag a whale up onto an ice-floe? I'm guessing its a big ole sumthinorother.

329 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:56:32am

re: #322 Killian Bundy

It's OK. one of my guitars is 36 years old.

330 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:57:56am

re: #325 goddessoftheclassroom

Toodles!

331 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:58:27am

re: #317 fat bastard vegetarian

Ah...that takes me back. I remember a couple of the girls in my old high school's drama club were quite striking (not to mention touchey-feeley). During lunch and study hall, I'd ask them about the upcoming production and they'd enthusiastically go into detail about their preperations. how many people they thought would show up and so on as well as actually attending some of the plays...made me look much more popular than I really was.

332 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 3:59:36am

re: #328 fat bastard vegetarian

I think polar bears are one of the biggest ursines around. Very strong too.

333 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:00:22am

re: #323 BlueCanuck

Around these parts we call those birds dump ducks. I think the carcass is a whale. Walruses are large, but not that large.


Shamu!? NOOO!

334 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:02:51am

re: #323 BlueCanuck

Around these parts we call those birds dump ducks. I think the carcass is a whale. Walruses are large, but not that large.


TAKE 2

Rosie O'Donnel!? NOOO!

Bad Polar Bear! You have no idea where that's been!

335 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:02:59am

re: #333 Fenway_Nation

Easy there, it probably wasn't Shamu. Most likely a beluga or narwhale. Shamu would probably eat the bear.

336 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:06:43am

Hmmm...I can take credit...or 'blame' for posts 222 and 333 tonight. Wonder if I should try and stick around for post #444.

337 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:07:27am

re: #328 fat bastard vegetarian

Could be a whale. I saw a polar bear drag one out on the ice. It looked impossible but he did it.

338 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:08:33am
339 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:09:47am

re: #332 BlueCanuck

The Polar bear is the top predator on Earth.

340 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:10:14am

re: #338 taxfreekiller

I hope you have a good thanksgiving, tfk. God bless you!

341 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:11:24am
342 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:12:08am

re: #337 fiat_lux


I'd hate to meet the polar bear that could drag off Rosie O'Donnel...

No wait...that would actually work out pretty well on a number of levels.

#1) If- God forbid- I was stranded in the arctic with Rosie O'Donnel, all I'd have to do is outrun her, not the bear.

#2) Only one way to find out for sure if the Polar Bear could drag off O'Donnel, by which point I wouldn't have to worry about outrunning her.

343 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:12:31am

Good morning.

Look for the market to drop some today in light trading. That is cause:

1. The futures are down about 1% overnight.

2. the Nikkei is down 110 points while the Hang Seng is up 490

3. The DOW went up 3 days in a row for the first time since I can't remember when. You just know there will be profit taking on the last day of trading before a holiday. The only counter to that I can think of at the moment would be people sitting on short sell positions buying back out to close the position before the holiday so they don;t spend the whole time worrying.

344 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:13:51am
345 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:13:56am

re: #343 3 wood


What do you make of Rio Tinto's abrupt drop?

346 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:18:49am

re: #345 Fenway_Nation

What do you make of Rio Tinto's abrupt drop?

/they got left at the altar?

347 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:19:44am

re: #282 Kenneth

I've heard rumours there is a hockey team in Toronto, but there is no imperical evidence to support such a wild conjecture.

RECENT SIGHTING OF A HOCKEY TEAM IN CHICAGO.

348 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:21:51am

re: #347 yochanan

Who? The Blackhawks or the Leafs?

349 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:22:02am

re: #346 Killian Bundy

Maybe, but I think left at the altar and specializing in commodities who's market prices have been slumping doesn't entirely account for a 36% drop in one day.

Price is being brought back down to earth along with that of Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan.

350 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:23:36am

re: #342 Fenway_Nation

No mammal would eat Rosie. You on the other hand would have more substance without the bile. Be scuuurred!

351 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:24:03am
Nothing is more difficult than competing with a myth.


Just ask McCain.

352 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:24:09am

re: #349 Fenway_Nation

Maybe, but I think left at the altar and specializing in commodities who's market prices have been slumping doesn't entirely account for a 36% drop in one day.

Price is being brought back down to earth along with that of Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan.

/get in line

353 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:24:33am
354 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:25:07am

re: #351 Rancher

The late great Dan Blocker: Hoss

355 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:25:47am

re: #352 Killian Bundy


Yea...but in my rather limited experience, RTP and POT seemed like holdouts.

356 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:29:46am

re: #351 Rancher

Just ask McCain.

Hey Rancher did Rustler get in the door?

357 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:31:03am

re: #345 Fenway_Nation

What do you make of Rio Tinto's abrupt drop?


Someone speculated yesterday that BHP Billiton saw something in their books that caused them to bail and maybe word got out.

358 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:31:44am

re: #356 Erik The Red

Hey Rancher did Rustler get in the door?

Not yet.

359 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:31:55am

re: #355 Fen way_Nation

Yea...but in my rather limited experience, RP and POT seemed like holdouts.

/don't expect them to lead out of this

360 Erik The Red  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:32:35am

re: #358 Rancher

Not yet.

Was open for 6 hours yesterday. Will he ever catch one?

361 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:34:50am

Guy walks out of his house, walks south one mile, walks east two miles, and then walks north one mile. As he enters his house he sees a bear, what color is the bear?

362 Crux Australis  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:34:54am

re: #345 Fenway_Nation

What do you make of Rio Tinto's abrupt drop?

Not good for the ASX, All Ordinaries and especially Rio Tinto's shareholders.

Turned down the offer offer of a lifetime.

363 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:36:35am

re: #361 Rancher

White.

And with that I bid you all good day. My relief is here and it's time for me to boogy. Stay scaly all.

364 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:37:00am

re: #360 Erik The Red

Was open for 6 hours yesterday. Will he ever catch one?


We both worked graveyard last night so we slept today. He's only on LGF at night during work so unless Charles opens registration in the middle of the night it's left to me. I'll keep trying.

365 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:37:37am

Morning all. Here's an absolutely brilliant idea: Send Bill Clinton to the Senate.
Don't shoot (or downding) me, I'm only the messenger. Just think of the possible page scandals.

366 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:39:14am

re: #361 Rancher

He's two miles away from his house.

367 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:39:53am

re: #366 fiat_lux

He's at the north pole. Doesn't matter how far east or west he walks. :)

368 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:40:26am

re: #329 fiat_lux

It's OK. one of my guitars is 36 years old.

I've got a bicycle that old. I still ride it.

369 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:41:51am

Market Commentary:

FWIW, here are my thoughts on the situation at the moment.

I notice that the prognosticators are starting to sort them selves out into one of two camps. Camp One takes the view that things are going to get a lot worse still. Some are predicting a DOW of 1,000 with depression era unemployment and millions of homeless. Camp Two says that while we have some rough water to travel yet, we are closer to the end of this than the beginning and this will turn around sooner than many may think.

I hold with Camp Two for the following reasons.

First, There is some good news out there, the TED spread is narrowing slowly and LIBOR has dropped a lot since October.

Second, the MSM was in full bore bashing mode for 2 years telling you how awful everything was. I think that eventually panicked some people who believed them. The MSM is now shifting to giving Obama credit for the sun coming up, so you will start hearing more good news, which will influence some of the investors.

Third, I also suspect that some big money lefties have been hammering the market down with short sells (Soros and company) to make the market look as bad a possible so The Messiah will look all the better when he gets sworn in and they reverse their strategy. It's just a hunch I have, but I think I'm correct.

Fourth, the banks are now sitting on billions of dollars of cash. When they finally start making loans again, and they will when the bad news in the market stops, you will see the economy jump. In fact, I am really starting to think more about hyper inflation in the future than I am the market dropping to nothing.

Fifth, despite all the bad news etc, the average American worker is still getting up everyday and going to work and producing. That will gradually have a positive effect on this situation.

Sixth, historically, even in bad recessions the market is flat or down about 18 months at most. We are now at least 10 months into that cycle.

Seventh, we did keep the banking system from totally melting down so far and I think it will hold. If we had not backed up the banking system, then I would be leaning toward Camp One.

Eighth, the US treasuries are still attractive on the market,showing that the US is still an attractive buy tot he world. One big reason for that is because we are taking action to deal with all this.

Ninth, I am starting to see signs that The Messiah is backing off of his punish the wealthy line of crap, at least for the next several years. If he raises taxes in the near term, we are in the soup.

Understand though, with all the debt we've taken on, we will eventually have to raise taxes and cut spending, but that will happen in the inflationary era to come after this turns around.

370 Hengineer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:44:17am

re: #7 descolada9

Boy, there's way too much truth in tonight's quote. Listening to Michael Medved and he's arguing with some wacko-lady about Native American history. A lot of the myths about atrocities against Native Americans really need to be properly debunked and the truth told about some of the stuff both the settlers and the Native Americans did.

Anyways, back to prepping the menu for Thanksgiving. Have a good one, y'all!

Just ask the settlers moving west what the Apaches did

371 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:44:40am

re: #368 Jim in Virginia

I was being facetious. I would not experiment on one of old guitars.

372 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:44:47am

re: #364 Rancher

Asked Charles if I could register someone, three times. Was ignored with great aplomb. So, I'm guessing the answer is, "No. I can't register someone."

Let Rustler know I tried.

373 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:45:51am

re: #345 Fenway_Nation

What do you make of Rio Tinto's abrupt drop?

Rio Tinto's Sydney shares tumble on debt concerns

HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- Sydney-listed shares of Rio Tinto lost nearly a third of their value Wednesday, in line with declines in London overnight, as investors reacted to news that BHP Billiton had withdrawn its $66 billion hostile bid.
Brokers said the declines were driven by the exit of investors who'd bet heavily on the success of the takeover and concerns that Rio Tinto may struggle to meet payments of $42.1 billion in debt related largely to last year's takeover of Alcan Inc.
"The market's a little concerned that they've actually got the means to pay for it," said Jonathan Barratt, managing director of Commodity Broking Services in Sydney.

A few months ago things might have been a little different, but investors now are spooked like a herd of white tail deer who've been shot at a few times.

374 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:51:24am

re: #369 3 wood
I'm in a professional group that includes engineers, architects, builders, lenders and our (would be) clients, land developers. At a meeting yesterday the lenders and developers were discussing thr credit/ bailout/ market situation; I understood most of the words but little of the sentences. Consensus seemed to be that things will get a whole lot worse but that mid 2009 is the bottom.
There was also a consensus that the situation in DC area is far better than most other places in the country.
I'm off to work. Play safe lizards.

375 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:51:52am

re: #367 BlueCanuck

I guess I'm tired (it's late even on the west coast), but I can can walk south, then walk east and then north and not see a polar bear. No?

376 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:54:09am

AIG closes $40 bln stock placement with Treasury under TARP

TEL AVIV (MarketWatch) -- American International Group Inc., the New York insurer, closed its $40 billion stock placement with the U.S. Treasury under the government's Troubled Assets Relief Program, the company said late on Tuesday. The Treasury bought 4 million shares of AIG Series D preferred and a warrant to buy common stock equaling 2% of the company on the date of the investment. The preferred pays 10% annual interest. The 10-year warrant is exercisable for as many as 53.8 million common shares; the price equals the common stock's par value when the warrant is exercised. AIG said it would use the proceeds to reduce its borrowings outstanding under the credit agreement the Federal Reserve Bank of New York extended to the insurer in September. The maximum capacity of that credit agreement will be reduced to $60 billion from $85 billion, AIG said.

I hate the fact that we are having to do this, but I also think it is for the long term good.

Step 2, which needs to happen, is more oversight and control of these companies to make sure they don't turn Wall Street into a casino again. That is in Congresses hands now.

Step 3 is to prosecute some people for fraud and conspiracy to commit, but I won't hold my breath on that one.

377 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:54:54am

re: #369 3 wood

When they finally start making loans again, and they will when the bad news in the market stops, you will see the economy jump.


I'm now contemplating buying a vehicle, something I wasn't considering before this mess. I also plan to throw any extra cash I can find into the market, something I wouldn't do if the market was still where it was in July. There are going to be great bargains in housing and interest rates are about as low as they can go, I may buy another rental unit, again something I wasn't planning to do earlier this year. I'm sure I'm not alone in all of these decisions.

378 fiat_lux  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:54:57am

And so, to bed

379 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:55:43am

re: #372 fat bastard vegetarian
10-4.

380 kulhwch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:55:55am

Mark Steyn has some reflections on where we're going, and it's kinda scarey ...

'Center-right' America lurches further left

"The greatest dangers to liberty," wrote Justice Brandeis, "lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."

Now who does that remind you of?

Ha! Trick question! Never mind Obama, it's John McCain. He encroached on our liberties with the constitutional abomination of McCain-Feingold. Well-meaning but without understanding, he proposed that the federal government buy up all these junk mortgages so that people would be able to stay in "their" homes. And this is the "center-right" candidate? It's hard for Republicans to hammer Obama as a socialist when their own party's nationalizing the banks and its presidential nominee is denouncing the private sector for putting profits before patriotism. That's why Joe the Plumber struck a chord: He briefly turned a one-and-a-half party election back into a two-party choice again.

If you went back to the end of the 19th century and suggested to, say, William McKinley that one day Americans would find themselves choosing between a candidate promising to guarantee your mortgage and a candidate promising to give "tax cuts" to millions of people who pay no taxes he would scoff at you for concocting some patently absurd H.G. Wells dystopian fantasy. Yet it happened. Slowly, remorselessly, government metastasized to the point where it now seems entirely normal for Peggy Joseph of Sarasota, Fla., to vote for Obama because "I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage."

}:)     [Ducking out again, happy Thanksgiving to the Lizard Army & our fearless leader, Charles.]

381 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:57:41am

re: #375 fiat_lux

I guess I'm tired (it's late even on the west coast), but I can can walk south, then walk east and then north and not see a polar bear. No?


Correct, but if you do see a bear it will be a polar bear 'cause your at the pole.

382 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:57:44am

re: #376 3 wood

You are the resident Stock expert...is all of this bailout stuff too much? The markets have been infused with billions, yet they still seem very volatile. What do you think will solve this? Confidence returning to investors and banks? Or, is a lot of this pre-Obama jitters?

383 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:58:35am

re: #374 Jim in Virginia

Consensus seemed to be that things will get a whole lot worse but that mid 2009 is the bottom.

We do have a second wave of defaults coming involving consumer debt, as recognized the other day by the new program announced by the Treasury.

On the bright side, the scope of the consumer debt defaults should be a bit smaller than the mortgage melt down, cause the average credit card holder has a smaller exposure. Of course, there are a lot of credit cards out there, but not all of them will go into default. I think we are looking at 10% to 20% going into default.

384 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:59:01am

re: #377 Rancher

I just did that too. I bought a new Honda Civic fo Mrs. Desert Dog, and I got a new cargo van for my company. Interest is low for car loans! (If you qualify).

I got screaming deals on both

385 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:59:49am

re: #382 Desert Dog

As the non-expert in anything, I personally believe we would not be where we are today without the fuel problem we've had for the last while.

I find myself, still hyper-mileaging and feeling that gas is too expensive. It has changed my head. I can't believe I am the only one.

386 Hengineer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:00:18am

Where's my fruitcup?

387 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:01:36am

Happy Thanksgiving to all the good lizards out there. Is it just my IE or is this comments thread all jacked up?

388 Hengineer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:03:07am

re: #382 Desert Dog

You are the resident Stock expert...is all of this bailout stuff too much? The markets have been infused with billions, yet they still seem very volatile. What do you think will solve this? Confidence returning to investors and banks? Or, is a lot of this pre-Obama jitters?

Actually I'm not an expert, but I know enough to say its the investor confidence. Alan Greenspan said as much in his book. I didn't read it but I did see an interview with him about it and that's the one thing he wished he knew but never learned in school the whole time. All those market equations and analysts and it all really boils down to consumer confidence in the market.

Markets crash because investors get scared and start pulling their money out, or trying to. Its the same with the housing bubble, too many people wanting to sell and prices have to drop.

389 Hengineer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:03:46am

re: #387 JammieWearingFool

Happy Thanksgiving to all the good lizards out there. Is it just my IE or is this comments thread all jacked up?

I'm on firefox and so far it seems fine.

Thanksgiving's tomorrow. I should know because this year my birthday falls on Thanksgiving. :)

390 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:07:22am

re: #385 fat bastard vegetarian

I've always been very aware of fuel costs. I own a small shipping/cartage company. I can tell you my monthly fuel costs hit an all time high in Oct when I paid out over $4500 for gas and diesel. This month it's down to $3500. For December, I am estimating it will be in the $2000's...so, I am very pleased about that. I am also enjoying a reduction in airline and trucking fuel surcharges for the first time EVER. Some of these outfits charged as much as 50% for a fuel surcharge. Add in the "security surcharge" the airlines have as well, it was getting very hard to sell air freight when all of these extras were killing me. I can now be more competitive with my pricing. So, I hope these fuel costs stay down, the high ones were forcing me out of the business I have been in since 1986.

391 Hengineer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:07:37am

re: #137 gmsc

Back when I lived in California, the Museum of Modern Art featured a display of old Burma-Shave signs.

I loved the ad for it, too. On successive pages of a local magazine, the ad featured pictures of Burma-Shave signs that read like this:

Those old red signs

We used to see 'em

But now they've gone

To a museum!


For you young 'uns, here's a sample of the great writing of Burma-Shave signs.

On I-5 driving north almost when it hits 580 past Modesto there's an ad for a realtor in an orange grove.

"Shane P. Donlon", and its got 4 signs (I forget what they say) but they are in the same vein as the Burma Shave signs.

392 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:09:54am

re: #390 Desert Dog

That's my point. I've always been semi-aware, but the last year made me "hyper-aware". Can't shake that nervous feeling. Poop.

393 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:11:22am

re: #386 Hengineer

looks like we have a fruit cup troll. remember fruit cup is a gift not an entitlement.

394 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:12:01am

Does anyone know what happened to the Moonbat image on the front page? It looks so empty without it

395 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:12:01am

re: #389 Hengineer

I'm on firefox and so far it seems fine.

Thanksgiving's tomorrow. I should know because this year my birthday falls on Thanksgiving. :)

Why, happy birthday and Thanksgiving!

396 Hengineer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:12:26am

[Link: articles.latimes.com...]

– 312 Acres, goes the first in a row of four signs planted in an orange grove near Los Banos, followed every 20 yards or so by these:

– Buy these little

– Vitamin C

– Makers.

A bit farther north, there is this series:

– A pleasant drive from the East Bay

– When you get there you will want to stay

– A little above the valley floor

– Commercial or cattle or who knows what more

397 Freddybear  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:12:46am

re: #68 Killian Bundy

/who the hell likes getting stuck with eating all the nasty dark meat off a 15+ lb. turkey?

Me!

398 Hengineer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:13:29am

re: #393 yochanan

well then I apologize, I know its not an entitlement it just seems like the perfect time of day for one.

I'll have a coffee instead.

399 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:13:49am

re: #382 Desert Dog

You are the resident Stock expert...is all of this bailout stuff too much? The markets have been infused with billions, yet they still seem very volatile. What do you think will solve this? Confidence returning to investors and banks? Or, is a lot of this pre-Obama jitters?

It's a multi-tiered problem.

Wall Street turned into a casino, and then we shot ourselves in the foot a bit because we resented having to bail them out so we argued about it.

The grand total of the mortgage backed securities that caused all this was about 2 trillion. If we had just ate all that we pretty much would have been out of the soup with limited other damage, and save ourselves about 6 trillion in further damage.

But because there was so much objection to the original 700 billion package, we screwed around and screwed around, and that caused massive further damage to the market and the economy that we now have to deal with. The analogy I have used is it's like two surgeon arguing over the proper scalpel to use while the patient lays there bleeding to death. You also have an investing public that is scared to death because of the volatility and the screwing around by the authorities. It's likethe Gang tha Can't Shoot Straight.

We have to make sure the banking system is solid (and that included AIG and other insurance companies, cause they insured so many debt issues). Everything stops if the banking system fails. Show over.

Above and beyond the banking system though, I think we need to stop the bail outs and let things sort themselves out. Yes, that will cause some pain.

Right now we are in a phase where everyone is trying to shift the coming pain to somebody else.

Another issue is many of these companies have been less than honest about the problems on their books. Just when you think you have your hands around the problem, up pops somebody else with a couple hundred billion in further problems.

I think the market is way under priced right now, and when it turns up will jump and fast. When that happens depends a lot on when the bad news stops happening every day, and that depends a lot on the volatility out there.

We need to have a quiet few weeks.

I am not worried about the market falling a whole lot more (Oh, the DOW might pop down into th 7,000's shortly again) , I'm more worried about hyper inflation when this turns around from all the money being pumped into the system and the borrowing that will happen sponging up all the credit and jumping interest rates.

400 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:15:00am

Got to head to work.

Later.

401 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:15:40am

re: #400 3 wood

Thanks 3. Go fix that mess for us, will ya?

402 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:18:06am

Good morning, Lizard Clan...anyone want a lovely cow pattie with your coffee?

[Link: www.savannahcandy.com...]

403 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:19:07am

re: #398 Hengineer

well then I apologize, I know its not an entitlement it just seems like the perfect time of day for one.

I'll have a coffee instead.

Well, here ya go.

Good morning, everyone

404 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:22:24am

re: #402 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, Lizard Clan...anyone want a lovely cow pattie with your coffee?

[Link: www.savannahcandy.com...]

Oh, too funny.

405 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:22:36am

re: #402 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, Lizard Clan...anyone want a lovely cow pattie with your coffee?

[Link: www.savannahcandy.com...]

That's a load of BS, sorta

406 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:23:22am

Rancher (#361),

Guy walks out of his house, walks south one mile, walks east two miles, and then walks north one mile. As he enters his house he sees a bear, what color is the bear?

It's too early to be bothering people with geometry.

407 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:23:30am

Good morning Lizards...

408 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:23:33am

re: #404 reine.de.tout

Oh, too funny.

Mornin' reine...all ready for Thanksgiving?

409 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:24:19am

re: #408 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' reine...all ready for Thanksgiving?

Yes, indeed, and greatly looking forward to it!
How about you?

410 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:24:53am

re: #361 Rancher

Guy walks out of his house, walks south one mile, walks east two miles, and then walks north one mile. As he enters his house he sees a bear, what color is the bear?

White... It's a damn Polar Bear...

411 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:26:16am

re: #409 reine.de.tout

Yes, indeed, and greatly looking forward to it!
How about you?

All ready and looking forward to it, too.

412 Miss Trixie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:27:03am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Coming at ya from a wintry day in Ottawa where a Former Ottawa gas station operator rules home state of Somali pirates

Some of the comments from the article:

Come to Canada, raise your kids where it is safe(r), there are schools and a social safety net. Operate a gas station and when the Puntland elders call to make you El Presidente, head on back to your "home land" to become a dictator who regards piracy as an industry. Perfect, just perfect. Somalia can really pick'em. A real leader. No wonder that country couldn't organize a snail race...

and

Canada needs and should have,an immigration law that includes immediate extradition of these kind of criminals,regardless whether they are,NOW, Canadian citizen or not.If one betrays the country that,sympathetically,took him in,it is called traitorism and removal of the same should be mandatory.There must be proof,however but no long,drawn out procedure that takes YEARS to get through.I,however, sympathize with the family unless it is,also evident that they were involved.
The way it is,now,criminals have it far too easy in Canada.Some gov.of ours established this"usury system", Canadian mob leader maybe?

Thank you to the Liberals and their assinine Immigration policy they shoved down Canada's throats.

BTW - this threaded is Rogered BIG time ...

413 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:27:20am

re: #407 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards...

Mornin' Dorian...

414 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:27:56am

re: #413 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Dorian...

Morning sweetheart... ;)

415 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:28:31am

re: #412 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

. . .BTW - this threaded is Rogered BIG time ...

Good morning, Miss Trixie!
I'm having no trouble with the thread (using safari browser, haven't had trouble since I downloaded it)

416 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:29:11am

What's everyone doing with the bird this year? As the resident turkey chef, I usually try something different each year. This time out, I am going to brine that 22 lb sucker in a mixture of veggie stock, kosher salt, onions, garlic, fresh herbs and citrus. Then, on Thanksgiving morning, I am going to try a herb rub with a mixture of all sorts of herbs and olive oil. And, for the first time ever, I am not going to put stuffing in the bird, but instead a mixture of the same herbs the rub is made from and some other extras like onions, oranges and lemons...I hope it works, otherwise I'll be taking out all of my guests to the Golden Corral for the "All you can eat Turkey Buffet".

417 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:29:18am

This threads replete

418 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:29:30am

with hungry Lizards

419 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:29:37am

and recipes

420 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:29:42am

for Turkey Gizzards

421 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:29:47am

/Burma Shave

422 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:31:03am

re: #414 doriangrey

Morning sweetheart... ;)

Coffee and cow pattie for you this morning?

423 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:31:26am

re: #416 Desert Dog

And, for the first time ever, I am not going to put stuffing in the bird,

No stuffing?

Kudos to DaddyG.

424 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:31:58am

re: #422 scottishbuzzsaw

Coffee and cow pattie for you this morning?

Coffee, sure, but I think I'll pass on the cow pattie... I'm trying to watch my weight... ;)

425 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:32:18am

Gonna have fried turkey.

When it's done right, it is sooo good. And quick.

426 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:32:45am

re: #423 MandyManners

That's a classic...the funniest Thanksgiving bit, ever...and, from a Brit, no less!

427 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:33:59am

I heard these quotes on some radio show last night.

--Thomas Jefferson

I sincerely believe... that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale.


--Andrew Jackson

Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.
428 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:34:00am

re: #424 doriangrey

Coffee, sure, but I think I'll pass on the cow pattie... I'm trying to watch my weight... ;)

LOL! That's always is a lost cause for me during the holiday season, luv...;>)

429 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:34:49am

re: #425 reine.de.tout

Did that a few years back, it was good. I think I over cooked it though. Smoked turkeys are good as well. I grilled one a few years ago. That actually turned out very nice, but what a pain in the you know what to cook it...I was chained to the grill for hours. Good thing I have plenty of wine and a portable TV to watch the football!

430 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:35:10am
431 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:35:16am

Sacks of wet cement.

432 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:35:47am

Have to go, but I wish you all a very Happy Thanksgiving!

433 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:36:12am

re: #160 slokat

Colmes Leaving

Exclusive film of Alan Colmes last broadcast.

434 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:36:22am

re: #432 scottishbuzzsaw

Have to go, but I wish you all a very Happy Thanksgiving!

You too dear, you too...

435 Miss Trixie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:36:39am

re: #415 reine.de.tout

Good morning, Miss Trixie!
I'm having no trouble with the thread (using safari browser, haven't had trouble since I downloaded it)

Someone was messing with the sarc tag upthread and now the thread's screwy.

436 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:38:01am

re: #431 MandyManners

I stand corrected, THAT is the funniest Thanksgiving bit ever, it is still funny even after all these years

437 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:38:28am

Just a half a mile from the railroad track

438 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:38:45am

re: #394 Desert Dog

Does anyone know what happened to the Moonbat image on the front page? It looks so empty without it

I think it is about speed.

439 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:39:44am

Gotta run! Bye Lizards! See y'all in a bit!

440 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:41:09am

re: #439 fat bastard vegetarian

Gotta run! Bye Lizards! See y'all in a bit!

Later FBV... Many turkeys are greatly fearing your impending approach... ;p

441 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:42:06am
442 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:42:38am

re: #398 Hengineer

cool just send payment to L.O.L.

443 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:42:58am

0bama, the man, the myth, the legend (In his and the moonbats minds)

444 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:43:46am

Good Morning Lizards!

Happy Thanksgiving Eve!

It is a bright, sunny, cold day here in CT. I hope everyone is well.

445 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:44:39am

So, the door opened last night, huh? Anything interesting yet? Any newbies here now?

446 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:44:59am

Hey! I have my own blog!

447 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:46:22am

Boy, could I abuse this!

448 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:46:26am

I wanna' kill, kill...I wanna see blood and gore and guts...I mean, kill, kill, kill, kill

449 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:46:51am

re: #447 Ford_Prefect

Boy, could I abuse this!

How can you eat turkey if you go blind?

450 Cathypop  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:46:59am

re: #431 MandyManners

Sacks of wet cement.


As God is my witness I thought turkeys could fly.

451 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:47:16am

re: #448 MandyManners

I wanna' kill, kill...I wanna see blood and gore and guts...I mean, kill, kill, kill, kill

Morning Mandy. Welcome to my blog.

452 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:47:51am

re: #449 MandyManners

How can you eat turkey if you go blind?

LOL.

453 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:48:04am

Mornin' Lizards!

I hope everybody's psyched about Thanksgiving.

MandyManners, thanks for the Alice's Restaurant link.

454 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:48:12am

re: #445 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning

I didn't come in yesterday but I've only been here about a month. I think the newest ones seemed pretty quiet.

455 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:48:24am

re: #450 Cathypop

As God is my witness I thought turkeys could fly.

I'm gonna' post that and the other two links today.

456 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:48:37am

re: #431 MandyManners

Sacks of wet cement.

That was hysterical.

457 Joan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:48:43am

re: #62 redc1c4

avast there ya land lubber!

/arrgh!

[Link: www.talklikeapirate.com...]

458 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:49:21am

re: #451 Ford_Prefect

Morning Mandy. Welcome to my blog.

I'm waiting for The Kid to wake up so that we can make omelets: Onions, tomatoes, Colby and ham.

459 Joan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:50:04am

re: #450 Cathypop

As God is my witness I thought turkeys could fly.

WKRP in Cincinnati
funniest episode ever, in the top 5 of any sitcom episode ever

460 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:50:07am

re: #458 MandyManners

I'm waiting for The Kid to wake up so that we can make omelets: Onions, tomatoes, Colby and ham.

Morning Mandy, except for the onions that sounds good... ;)

461 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:50:12am

re: #454 Nylecoj

Good Morning

I didn't come in yesterday but I've only been here about a month. I think the newest ones seemed pretty quiet.

Well, welcome to you. As always I would just advise you to stay clear of Mandy's cluebat.

462 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:50:38am

re: #458 MandyManners

I'm waiting for The Kid to wake up so that we can make omelets: Onions, tomatoes, Colby and ham.

Yum. Which chair is mine?

463 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:50:55am

re: #458 MandyManners

I'm waiting for The Kid to wake up so that we can make omelets: Onions, tomatoes, Colby and ham.

Try using leftover turkey in an omelet sometime. Yummy!

464 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:51:12am

re: #461 Ford_Prefect

Well, welcome to you. As always I would just advise you to stay clear of Mandy's cluebat.

Whack... It's a Clue-by-four you doofus... j/k ;)

465 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:51:15am

re: #461 Ford_Prefect

Well, welcome to you. As always I would just advise you to stay clear of Mandy's cluebat.

Thank-you for the advice. I will definitely remember.

466 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:51:22am

re: #445 Ford_Prefect

So, the door opened last night, huh? Anything interesting yet? Any newbies here now?

There's one newbie with the interesting moniker "chancre sore" who has not yet made an appearance.

467 Irish Rose  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:51:28am

Good morning, lizards!
It's Wednesday, but it sure feels like Friday :).

My home pub hosts a huge holiday trad music session and ceili the evening before Thanksgiving, and it's one of the best evenings of the entire year.

We typically have 25 - 30 musicians in the house (including at least one bagpiper), hammering out lively tunes for hours on end while the food and libations flow freely. I'm warming up my accordion reeds already, and packing my hard shoes in with the ghillies so that I can dance a bit of Sean Nos'.

Anyone care to join me?

468 ciaospirit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:52:03am

I hate the media. Of course, no mention of how the Demoncrat Congress fought him every step of the way every day.

Bush's Last Days: The Lamest Duck

That we have slightly more than one President for the moment is mostly a consequence of the extraordinary economic times. Even if George Washington were the incumbent, the markets would want to know what John Adams was planning to do after his Inauguration. And yet this final humiliation seems particularly appropriate for George W. Bush. At the end of a presidency of stupefying ineptitude, he has become the lamest of all possible ducks. (See TIME's best pictures of Barack Obama.)


...BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE

Bush never understood, or cared about, the delicate balance between freedom and regulation that was necessary to make markets work. He never understood, or cared about, the delicate balance between freedom and equity that was necessary to maintain the strong middle class required for both prosperity and democracy. He never considered the complexities of the cultures he was invading. He never understood that faith, unaccompanied by rigorous skepticism, is a recipe for myopia and foolishness. He is less than President now, and that is appropriate. He was never very much of one.
469 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:52:28am

re: #453 kayawanee

Mornin' Lizards!

I hope everybody's psyched about Thanksgiving.

MandyManners, thanks for the Alice's Restaurant link.

I saw Arlo Guthrie perform that at the Newport Folk Festival back in the eighties. It was the 20th anniversary of the first time that he had performed at the festival. He claimed that he hadn't played it since then. It was great. I don't remember all of the updates, I just remember that it was really funny.

470 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:53:30am
"Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug." He looked at me and said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send you fingerprints off to Washington."

And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints.

471 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:53:32am

re: #464 doriangrey

Whack... It's a Clue-by-four you doofus... j/k ;)

Ouch!

Good morning Dorian and Rose.

472 Crusty  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:53:49am
Nothing is more difficult than competing with a myth.

Boy, you're telling me. All the online arguments I've had with Obamazombies the past couple of weeks. I've never used the word "hippy" so much in my life.

473 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:53:54am

re: #468 ciaospirit

I hate the media. Of course, no mention of how the Demoncrat Congress fought him every step of the way every day.

Bush's Last Days: The Lamest Duck

The MSM sucks and when the revolution comes they need to be the first up against the wall...

474 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:53:59am

re: #467 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards!
It's Wednesday, but it sure feels like Friday :).

My home pub hosts a huge holiday trad music session and ceili the evening before Thanksgiving, and it's one of the best evenings of the entire year.

We typically have 25 - 30 musicians in the house (including at least one bagpiper), hammering out lively tunes for hours on end while the food and libations flow freely. I'm warming up my accordion reeds already, and packing my hard shoes in with the ghillies so that I can dance a bit of Sean Nos'.

Anyone care to join me?

Good Morning Irish!
Boy that sure sounds like fun

475 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:55:03am

re: #460 doriangrey

Morning Mandy, except for the onions that sounds good... ;)

I love onions. And, garlic.

When I first learned how to cook in college in Seattle, I thought that a clove of garlic was the whole bulb. It took me forever to dice three "cloves". Good thing I was dating a Belgian who loved garlic, too.

476 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:55:31am

re: #462 Ford_Prefect

Yum. Which chair is mine?

I'll seat you at the stove's bar.

477 kansas  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:55:36am

Nothing is more difficult than competing with a myth.

Yeah, ask Dan Quayle, then make sure you want to run Sarah Palin in four more years.

478 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:55:59am

re: #463 DaddyG

Try using leftover turkey in an omelet sometime. Yummy!

I tried to get him to wait until Friday so that we could do that but, he wants to do it this morning.

479 ciaospirit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:56:20am

re: #473 doriangrey

The MSM sucks and when the revolution comes they need to be the first up against the wall...

I know. They have way too much power. It grates me the way they leave out that he got us through 9/11 which could have devastated our economy. Bush showed true leadership that kept that from happening.

480 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:56:36am

re: #474 HoosierHoops

Morniing HH. How are you today?

481 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:57:03am

re: #475 MandyManners

I love onions. And, garlic.

When I first learned how to cook in college in Seattle, I thought that a clove of garlic was the whole bulb. It took me forever to dice three "cloves". Good thing I was dating a Belgian who loved garlic, too.

Well, you certainly weren't dating a Vampire with cooking like that... lol...lol...lol... ;)

482 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:57:15am

re: #453 kayawanee

Mornin' Lizards!

I hope everybody's psyched about Thanksgiving.

MandyManners, thanks for the Alice's Restaurant link.

You're welcome. The humor overcomes the politics.

483 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:57:38am

re: #476 MandyManners

I'll seat you at the stove's bar.

Great! The food will be warmer that way.

484 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:57:56am

re: #454 Nylecoj

I don't recall if I ever welcomed you.

WELCOME!

485 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:58:14am

re: #480 Ford_Prefect

Morniing HH. How are you today?

Good Morning Ford!
I'm doing great..life is sweet...And I might have O/D on Coffee

486 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:58:31am

re: #479 ciaospirit

I know. They have way too much power. It grates me the way they leave out that he got us through 9/11 which could have devastated our economy. Bush showed true leadership that kept that from happening.

Quite frankly I think the MSM will remain the arrogant SOB's that they currently are until at least 50 percent of Americans hate and despise them at least as much as I do.

487 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:58:36am

Who said turkeys can't fly?

My area is inundated with wild turkeys and I sure as hell saw a few of those monsters airborne.

488 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:58:41am

re: #484 MandyManners

Thank-you very much Mandy. I am glad to be here.
Your omelet sounds great!

489 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:58:47am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

First Christmas party now under the belt :-)

*Hic*

It really was a great party, and I've just rocked in the front door at 12.30am Thursday morning

I love this time of year :-)

On a more sombre note, this is the spot where the despised murderers of 202 people, including 88 of my fellow Aussies, were shot dead

THIS is the exact spot where the evil deeds of the Bali bombers caught up with them and they were executed by bullets to the heart.

Immediately after their midnight execution their bodies were removed from wooden crosses where they had been tied in a bush clearing and the crosses and everything used in their deaths were set on fire and burned to the ground.

Now, all that remains at the spot, known as Nirbaya on Nusa Kambangan Island off the coast of Central Java, are the blackened and charred remains of the three death crosses.

Yes, we who are living, have fun, laugh, joke, but we will always remember our fellow Aussies, and the other innocent people from other countries, who were murdered by these scumbags

490 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:15am

re: #468 ciaospirit

From what I can see, Obama is already the President in their eyes. I am surprised they have not asked Bush to leave a month early so "The One" can "start the healing"...barf!

491 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:20am

Well, since everyone is waking up:

Coffee for all

And plenty of donuts

492 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:24am

Good morning all y'all from a cold (27 degrees, going up to 52 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

493 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:38am

re: #485 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Ford!
I'm doing great..life is sweet...And I might have O/D on Coffee

Impossible you heretic... ;)

494 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:40am

re: #469 Ford_Prefect

You lucky bastard!

495 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:49am

re: #485 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Ford!
I'm doing great..life is sweet...And I might have O/D on Coffee

I am a two cup-a-day person, tops. Any more and I won't sleep that night.

496 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:58am

re: #468 ciaospirit
He kept us safe for seven years and established a new Democracy in the cesspool we call the Middle East. And that will haunt the other despots that are still breeding jihadists trying to kill us. God bless George Bush.

497 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:00:33am

re: #492 realwest

Good morning all y'all from a cold (27 degrees, going up to 52 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Good morning real, and a happy thanksgiving to you sir... ;)

498 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:00:54am

re: #468 ciaospirit

I hate the media. Of course, no mention of how the Demoncrat Congress fought him every step of the way every day.

Bush's Last Days: The Lamest Duck

I made the mistake of flipping past MSNBC last night and saw a photograph of Pres. Bush inside a circle with ducks decorating it. I shouted a hearty "FUCK YOU" before I quickly flipped some more.

499 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:01:15am

re: #496 Rancher

He kept us safe for seven years and established a new Democracy in the cesspool we call the Middle East. And that will haunt the other despots that are still breeding jihadists trying to kill us. God bless George Bush.

Which is precisely why the MSM hates him...

500 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:01:39am

re: #487 JammieWearingFool

Who said turkeys can't fly?

My area is inundated with wild turkeys and I sure as hell saw a few of those monsters airborne.

One flew into the wind shield of my dad's Corvette a few years ago. Fortunately it only damaged the window. Those things can really mess up a car if you hit them full on.

501 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:01:47am

re: #496 Rancher

He made some mistakes, but he will go down as a better President than any Democrat of the last 50 years. Obama is all set up for a fall. They have so many hopes and dreams pinned on him, there is no way he can live up to it.

502 Cathypop  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:02:02am

re: #487 JammieWearingFool
Don't ever hit one as it flies in front of your truck.

503 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:02:05am

Good Morning Dorian, Real, aussie and Mandy.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone..We all have much to be thankful about.

504 doriangrey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:02:30am

Well I'm off to work... It's raining, so traffic is bound to be fucked up beyond belief... (Hey this is SoCal, nobody here knows how to drive in the rain)...

505 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:02:31am

re: #483 Ford_Prefect

Great! The food will be warmer that way.

Just keep your hands clear of my knives.

506 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:03:04am

re: #500 Ford_Prefect

One flew into the wind shield of my dad's Corvette a few years ago. Fortunately it only damaged the window. Those things can really mess up a car if you hit them full on.

Better a turkey than a moose!

507 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:03:07am

re: #488 Nylecoj

Thank-you very much Mandy. I am glad to be here.
Your omelet sounds great!

I've never cooked on before so, it might end up as scrambled eggs.

508 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:03:16am

re: #494 kayawanee

You lucky bastard!

Yes. And I had no idea about the anniversary. He was the closing act that weekend and it started raining about two hours before he came on. No one left until he was done.

509 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:03:32am

re: #504 doriangrey

Well I'm off to work... It's raining, so traffic is bound to be fucked up beyond belief... (Hey this is SoCal, nobody here knows how to drive in the rain)...


Have a great day..

510 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:03:51am

re: #507 MandyManners

I've never cooked on before so, it might end up as scrambled eggs.

With the ingredients you are using those would be good too.

511 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:03:52am

re: #491 reine.de.tout

Well, since everyone is waking up:

Coffee for all

And plenty of donuts


Thanks reine :-) Need coffee after my first Christmas party!

And I have to go to work in a few hours :-(

512 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:04:09am

re: #506 Desert Dog

Better a turkey than a moose!

Oh. Poor moose.

513 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:04:31am

re: #505 MandyManners

Just keep your hands clear of my knives.

So noted.

514 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:04:44am

re: #510 Nylecoj

With the ingredients you are using those would be good too.

I hope so. The problem is, The Kid still thinks I'm capable of miracles so it'll suck to let him down.

515 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:05:02am

Good morning reine!
Thanks for the coffee..wait..I don't need no stinking coffee!
LOL

516 Joan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:05:17am

re: #119 gmsc

I hate to interrupt this slash-fest, but there are pictures of the Thailand Airport shutdown over at FOX News.

"The anti-government protesters are mostly better educated, more affluent, urban Thais demanding that the country move away from a Western-style electoral system, which they say Thaksin exploited to buy votes. They instead favor a system in which some representatives are chosen by certain professions and social groups."

Well, from the article they still wish to behave like aggressive thug protesters, not outright terrorists: bad, mostly
It sounds like they are sore losers: bad.
Unless the election was totally crooked: so, maybe understandable.
Are they tools of a Marxist movement? They want to set up a Commissariat: bad.
Is the elected government tyrannical, illegal, collaborating with enemies of the Thai people: maybe understandable.

How little I know is made plain to me each day.

517 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:05:18am

re: #513 Ford_Prefect

So noted.

And, don't pinch any Colby. That'll get you a *whack*.

518 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:05:21am

re: #512 MandyManners

I feel bad for that moose too...but what about the guy (or gal) driving the car?

519 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:05:33am

re: #492 realwest

Good morning all y'all from a cold (27 degrees, going up to 52 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

*Smooch* from Down Under! Just for you {darls}

520 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:05:58am

re: #514 MandyManners

I hope so. The problem is, The Kid still thinks I'm capable of miracles so it'll suck to let him down.

How old is he?

521 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:06:13am

Gotta get to work, have fun fellow lizards

522 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:07:34am

re: #511 aussiemagpie

Thanks reine :-) Need coffee after my first Christmas party!

And I have to go to work in a few hours :-(

oh Aussie..
The reviews for Nicole Kidman in 'Australia' are horrible...
I mean terrible..sarcastic and down right mean reviews.

523 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:07:34am

re: #503 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Dorian, Real, aussie and Mandy.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone..We all have much to be thankful about.

G'day HH, and Happy Thanksgiving to you too :-)

524 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:08:04am

Good morning, Lizards!
Flying turkeys? How about some flying sheep?

525 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:08:07am

re: #518 Desert Dog

I feel bad for that moose too...but what about the guy (or gal) driving the car?

I hope she/he ducked.

526 Joan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:08:08am

re: #245 Killian Bundy

Somali has over 2400 miles of coastline, do the math, count the number of NATO ships and divide.

/this will be eventually solved on land by who knows

Muslim extremists.
/want to bet?

527 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:08:20am

re: #520 Nylecoj

How old is he?

Eight.

528 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:08:36am

re: #489 aussiemagpie
Good morning {aussie} - I'm glad your first holiday party went so well (hic)!
And thank you for reminding us about that Bali bombing and how the bombers themselves met with justice.
But I did find this (from your link) disturbing, to say the least:

A defiant deathbed song written and recorded by Imam Samudra shortly before his execution has been released on the internet and is now being downloaded as a mobile phone ringtone by hardliners and ordinary people alike in Indonesia.
In addition new pictures of the bombers in their white funeral shrouds, being kissed and mourned over by their families including the wife and son of Amrozi, have been released along with the song.

News Ltd understands that Samudra's song, which is about two minutes long, was recorded on a mobile phone by a visitor to Samudra at the prison in the months leading up to the execution. It has only just been released in MP3 format and is now being downloaded from Islamic websites in Indonesia.

In the song Samudra declares: "I am a martyr, I am a martyr. My eyes are closed, my chest is wounded." He farewells his family, promising to meet them again in the hereafter. And he continues with his rhetoric about Jews and Americans who he claims are the enemies of Islam, saying of America and its allies: "We will beat them up, and they will fall."

News Ltd yesterday spoke with several people who have downloaded the song and are using it as the ringtone on their mobile phones.

Fajar Badrullah, a herbal medicine seller in Jakarta, said he had made it his ringtone several days ago to "honour" the Bali bombers, who he said had struggled in Allah's name to defend Islam against America and the allies.

[emhasis realwest]
I just can't begin to express my disgust with people like that, except to hope we help create a LOT of martyrs for Allah.

BTW, do you know how it is that these murdering scumbags were tied to crosses before being shot? That seems a little, uh, strange doesn't it or is it me?

529 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:09:47am

Well, I had better get ready for work and then call my son to come jump start my car and pull a fuse for the lights so he doesn't have to come do it again.
Does anyone here know why my interior lights would refuse to turn off when the weather turns cold?

530 Joan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:10:16am

re: #507 MandyManners

I've never cooked on before so, it might end up as scrambled eggs.

I found a "how to" omelette demonstration on YouTube: search "Spanish Omelette" It was interesting.

531 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:11:29am

re: #528 realwest

64,067-63,231=836.

532 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:11:46am

re: #527 MandyManners

Eight.

I don't think some scrambled eggs will cause him to be disappointed nor stop believieng you can do miracles. 12 maybe :)

533 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:11:59am

re: #530 Joan

I found a "how to" omelette demonstration on YouTube: search "Spanish Omelette" It was interesting.

No time. The kid is up.
bbl

534 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:12:12am

Morning Everyone, coffee just starting to kick in here.

535 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:12:14am

re: #496 Rancher
Amen to that Rancher. George W. Bush did (or didn't do) a lot of things with which I disagreed, but he did indeed keep us safe from another 9/11 and he did WIN in Iraq and set up a fledging, still struggling democracy in Iraq. For which, as you said, we should all be grateful. God Bless George Bush and indeed God Bless our Troops and God Bless America.

536 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:13:29am

re: #497 doriangrey
Good morning to you too, SIR. And I hope you too have a very happy Thanksgiving.
Uh, y'all should be getting those contracts in the mail on Friday or Saturday!

537 freedombilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:14:18am

Good Morning Lizards and a very Happy Thanksgiving! Can anyone promise me that I will not encounter any traffic today between DC and New Haven?

538 Irish Rose  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:14:21am

Have a great day all, I'm out the door!

539 johngaltlives  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:14:52am

No terrorist attacks since 9-11. I wonder how long that streak will hold under the One? But I am sure he will blame Bush.

//Are terrorists racists if they attack while ObaMao is president?

//If so can we then call them terrorists?

540 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:15:16am

re: #487 JammieWearingFool Hey Jammie - good to see you again! If you think those Airborne Turkeys were monsters, you should see the ones that graduated from Ranger School as well! Man, talk about your tough birds! LOL!
I hope you and yours have a truly Happy Thanksgiving!

541 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:15:31am

re: #500 Ford_Prefect

One flew into the wind shield of my dad's Corvette a few years ago. Fortunately it only damaged the window. Those things can really mess up a car if you hit them full on.


One hit my nephews car, peeled back the roof as if he had hit a bowling ball.

542 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:16:07am

re: #506 Desert Dog

Better a turkey than a moose!

I was talking to someone who used to be an emt up in New Hampshire. He told me the worst part about those incidents, apart from the fact that they were often fatal to the passengers in the car, was the fact the impact would knock all the ticks off the moose, so the car would be crawling with them.

543 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:16:43am

re: #503 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops and the same Happy Thanksgiving back atcha - say, did you ever have a chance to thank your son Jordan from us for his service to our nation?

544 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:17:11am

re: #522 HoosierHoops

oh Aussie..
The reviews for Nicole Kidman in 'Australia' are horrible...
I mean terrible..sarcastic and down right mean reviews.

I'm busy reading stuff about this movie

Seems to be one BIG political statement by Baz Luhrmann the director -white man bad, aboriginal man good...

This is from Andrew Bolt's blog - one of the best Down Under

His blog is a must read for me each day :-)

545 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:17:36am

re: #508 Ford_Prefect

Yes. And I had no idea about the anniversary. He was the closing act that weekend and it started raining about two hours before he came on. No one left until he was done.

No doubt. It must have been one of those iconic moments, where the weather just didn't matter. I had one of those at a Dead Show at Giant's stadium in the early 90's with some friends. There was a heavy, soaking rain for about 20 minutes, but it didn't dampen our spirits. About a half hour after the rain started, we were completed dry after a warm wind came along and wicked off all the water. I'll never forget that show.

546 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:17:48am

re: #491 reine.de.tout

GOT ANY BIENYA'S

547 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:18:29am

Here's some good economic news (sort of):

Initial U.S. jobless claims drop back in latest week

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- First-time filings for state unemployment benefits fell back in the latest week, the Labor Department said Wednesday, but remained above 500,000 in an ongoing sign of a tough labor market.
Initial jobless claims for the week ending Nov. 22 fell by 14,000 to a seasonally-adjusted 529,000. That was the lowest since Nov. 8.
At the same time, however, the four-week average of initial claims rose to a 25-year high of 518,000. The four-week average measures the underlying trend of claims, smoothing out one-time events like weather or strikes.
Meanwhile, the number of continuing jobless claims fell by 54,000 to 3.96 million in the week ending Nov. 15, its lowest mark since Nov. 1.
But the four-week average of continuing claims remained troublingly high, climbing to a 25-year high of 3.92 million.
Initial claims represent job destruction while continuing claims indicate how hard or easy it is to find a job.
A year ago, initial claims were at 349,000.

I know a few days ago much was made in the MSM cause GDP shrank by 0.5%. To put that in some perspective, during the Great Depression GDP shrank by 30%.

I also noticed that my local gas stations jumped gas prices 10 cents to 15 cents a gallon just in time for the Holiday travel, to about $1.79 a gallon.

548 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:18:31am

re: #534 CapeCoddah

Morning Everyone, coffee just starting to kick in here.

Morning Cape.

549 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:19:11am

re: #537 freedombilly

Good Morning Lizards and a very Happy Thanksgiving! Can anyone promise me that I will not encounter any traffic today between DC and New Haven?

Promise made.

/fingers crossed behind back

550 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:19:46am

re: #500 Ford_Prefect

One flew into the wind shield of my dad's Corvette a few years ago. Fortunately it only damaged the window. Those things can really mess up a car if you hit them full on.

Out here, we get hit by seagulls. Those suckers are a lot bigger than they seem when they hit and shatter your windshield. Nothing scarier than hitting some type of big bird and never seeing it coming. Heart attack.

551 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:20:00am

re: #519 {aussiemagpie}
Well *smooches* back to you too!
Uh, you said you just got in from your first Christmas Party? Don't y'all celebrate December 25th as Christmas Day?! I mean, it's just a tad early for Christmas parties, isn't it?

552 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:20:09am

re: #529 Nylecoj

Does anyone here know why my interior lights would refuse to turn off when the weather turns cold?

"Mechanical Objects"
I walk into an elevator, and there are no people in the elevator, no buttons on the wall or anything. And I hear a voice say "Kindly call out your floors, please." And I look around, and I'm alone. And I panic, and I read on the wall, that is a new elevator and it works on a sonic principle and it all sound. All I have to do is say what floor I wanna got to, and it takes me there. So I say "Three, please", and the doors close and the elevator starts going up to three. And on the way up I began to feel very selfconscious, 'cause I talk, I think, with a slight New York accent, and the elevator spoke quite well. I get out of it, and I'm walking down the hall, and I look back, and I thought I heard the elevator make a remark. I turned quickly and the doors closed and the elevator goes down, y'know, and I...didn't wanna get involved at the time with an...elevator in Hollywood, but - this is the strange part of the story, the other was the normal part - I have never in my life had good relationships with mechanical objects of any sort. Anything that I can't reason with or kiss or fondle, I get into trouble with. I have a clock that runs counter-clockwise for some reason. My toaster pops up my toast and shakes it, burns it. I hate my shower. I'm taking a shower, and somebody in America uses his water. That's it for me, y'know, I leap from the tub scolded. I have a tape recorder, I payed a hundred and fifty dollars for, and as I talk into it, it goes "I know, I know."

About three years ago I couldn't stand it anymore. I was home one night. I called a meeting with my posessions. I got everything I owned into the living room. My toaster, my clock, my blender. They never been in the living room before. And I spoke to them. I opened with a joke. And then I said "I know what's going on, and cut it out!" I have a sun lamp, but as I sit under it, it rains on me. And I spoke to each appliance, I was really articulate. Then I put them back, and I felt good. Two nights later I'm watching my portable television set, and the set begins to jump up and down, and I go up to it. And I always talk before I hit, and I said "I thought we had discussed this, what's the problem?" And the set kept going up and down, so I hit it, and it felt good hitting it, and I beat the hell out of it. I was really great, I tore off the antenna, and I felt very virile. And two days later I go to my dentist in New York. I had gone to my dentist, but I had a deep cavity, and he'd sent me to a chiropodist. I'm going into a building in mid-town New York, and they have those elevators, and I hear a voice say "Kindly call out your floors, please", and I say "sixteen" and the doors close and the elevator starts going up to sixteen. And on the way up the ellevator says to me "Are you the guy that hit the televison set?" I felt like an ass, y'know, and it took me up and down fast between floors, and it threw me off in the basement. It yelled out something that was anti-semetic. - Woody Allen

553 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:20:31am

Hope you all have a wonderful holiday, Lizzardim. . .

554 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:20:49am
555 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:20:51am

re: #486 doriangrey

Quite frankly I think the MSM will remain the arrogant SOB's that they currently are until at least 50 percent of Americans hate and despise them at least as much as I do.

I think they are past changing. They see Obama getting elected as a reaffirmation of their mission and being relevant.

That is why I am rooting for the NYT and similar rats nests of bias to go broke.

556 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:21:05am

re: #548 Ford_Prefect

Morning Cape.

Morning Ford, Happy Thanksgiving, to everyone!

557 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:21:26am

re: #537 freedombilly

Good Morning Lizards and a very Happy Thanksgiving! Can anyone promise me that I will not encounter any traffic today between DC and New Haven?

I think the president elect can promise you that- with about as much veracity as every other promise he's made in the last year...

/Good Morning and Happy (almost) Thanksgiving Everybody!

558 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:21:31am

re: #531 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy!
Uh, 64,067-63,231=836. ?!? What means this?

559 Joan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:21:40am

re: #46 gmsc

A few years back, there was a protest against the FSU Floroida Seminoles, claiming that the name and the image of their mascot Chief Osceola were offensive to actual Native Americans.

That protest was cut short the sports team pointed out that their mascot and name were used with the official sanction of the people of the actual Seminole tribe.

Unclassifiable narrative history, wonderfully free of propaganda, but pulls no punches. Perfidious government, greedy land swindlers and developers, rough and ready frontiersmen and pioneers, religious nuts with guns, blood enough to defile our myths--and the "noble savage" myths as well.
Alan W. Eckert
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

560 freedombilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:21:51am

re: #549 Ford_Prefect

Promise made.

/fingers crossed behind back

Thank you! The Sox won the 2004 World Series so anything is possible.

I'm late to the party...how did your doctor's appointment go yesterday rw?

561 freedombilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:22:25am

re: #557 CIA Reject

I think the president elect can promise you that- with about as much veracity as every other promise he's made in the last year...

/Good Morning and Happy (almost) Thanksgiving Everybody!

My traffic situation needs a bailout!

562 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:22:52am

re: #545 kayawanee

The funny thing is that the night before Joan Baez was the closing act. There was just a light drizzle and half the place emptied out. I have never been a Baez fan, even when I used to listen to folk music more. I don't listen much anymore because I just can't stand the politics that go along with most of it.

563 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:22:53am

re: #554 Iron Fist

The Media are the Enemy.

During the Civil War, General Sherman said that he wanted to shoot all reporters as being spies for the enemy.

I wish Sherman was still around.

564 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:22:56am

re: #552 DaddyG

OMG! LOL
Thank-you for teh funny

565 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:23:19am

Safe travel to all those on the road or in the air this holiday. . .

566 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:24:09am

re: #555 3 wood
Hey good morning my friend! I hope you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

567 joecitizen  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:24:26am

happy turkeyday fellowbabies and Lizards all!
may the warmth hold you lightly on this wondrous day...

568 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:24:55am

re: #561 freedombilly

My traffic situation needs a bailout!

I think "I need a bailout" is going to be the 21st century version of "Brother can you spare a dime?"

569 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:25:23am

re: #563 3 wood

AND HE SAID HE WOULD GET REPORTS FROM HELL THE NEXT MORNING+

570 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:25:24am

re: #528 realwest


Yes - crosses were the LAST thing I'd expected at the execution place

And that song is so disturbing - as Indonesia is so close to us, I'm so worried that this country does not fall into the Muslim extremist basket

There are many Indonesians living here - the ones I have met are all ordinary, law abiding, normal people who I'm sure would not abide by Muslim extremism (hopefully)

571 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:26:00am

Anyone interested in the best treat to keep the greedy mitts off your fixin's until the meal is ready? My mom called it Nut & Bolts, but now they call it Chex Mix. It's an original recipe...guaranteed to become addictive...
/Happy TDE! {Turkey Day EVE} everybody?

572 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:26:28am

re: #501 Desert Dog

Obama is all set up for a fall. They have so many hopes and dreams pinned on him, there is no way he can live up to it.

Have you noticed that Obama has stated that one of his goals is to create or save 2.5 million jobs in his first term?

How do you define a "saved" job?

And the MSM asked not a question about this.

They have already assumed the Lewinsky position.

573 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:26:31am

re: #550 CapeCoddah

Out here, we get hit by seagulls. Those suckers are a lot bigger than they seem when they hit and shatter your windshield. Nothing scarier than hitting some type of big bird and never seeing it coming. Heart attack.

I have never hit anything that big. I always feel bad when I hit the smaller birds or squirrels. I tend to assume that they will fly or run out of my way, but when then don't...squish. :-(

574 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:26:31am

re: #563 3 wood

During the Civil War, General Sherman said that he wanted to shoot all reporters as being spies for the enemy...

He only decided against it because "...we'd be getting dispatches from Hell by breakfast..." :-)

575 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:26:58am

re: #566 realwest

Hey good morning my friend! I hope you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

Same to you and Mom. Going to have turkey and watch football?

576 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:26:58am

re: #560 freedombilly
Hey freedombilly - almost missed that! Doc appointment went well, I said hi, he said hi, took my pulse, blood pressure, listened to me heart and lungs and we wished each other a happy holiday season.
Oh and I paid him his $30 co-pay.
I reckon he figures, $30 here, $30 there, it all adds up!
How are you doing today?

577 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:27:09am
578 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:27:17am

re: #562 Ford_Prefect

The funny thing is that the night before Joan Baez was the closing act. There was just a light drizzle and half the place emptied out. I have never been a Baez fan, even when I used to listen to folk music more. I don't listen much anymore because I just can't stand the politics that go along with most of it.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Many of the musicians I love (mostly prog rock) are moonbats, but the music's great. If they would just shut up and sing, everything would be fine. =)

579 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:27:28am

re: #543 realwest

Good morning Hoops and the same Happy Thanksgiving back atcha - say, did you ever have a chance to thank your son Jordan from us for his service to our nation?


Good morning Real..Happy Thankgiving to you and your mom.
I'm taking off half a day and taking the family out for lunch.
I'll toast him with a beer for everybody.

580 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:27:52am

re: #569 yochanan

GMTA!

581 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:28:50am

re: #551 realwest

Well *smooches* back to you too!
Uh, you said you just got in from your first Christmas Party? Don't y'all celebrate December 25th as Christmas Day?! I mean, it's just a tad early for Christmas parties, isn't it?

LOL! Nevver too early for parties!

And it's Christmas parties here - full on - we have three this week :-)

We don't have that Thanksgiving destraction here :-)

582 joecitizen  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:29:19am

re: #573 Ford_Prefect

I have never hit anything that big. I always feel bad when I hit the smaller birds or squirrels. I tend to assume that they will fly or run out of my way, but when then don't...squish. :-(

hit a bigass deer on the pa. turnpike while on the way to a dylan concert in nyc...turned out to be 1 of the best weekends ever so, who knows?

583 x-wing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:29:27am

re: #572 3 wood

I thought that was odd too.

So if he bails out the big 3, he could say he saved almost 3 million jobs **bullshit** but he'd say it.
Would he consider that a promise kept for both?

584 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:08am

re: #539 johngaltlives

No terrorist attacks since 9-11. I wonder how long that streak will hold under the One? But I am sure he will blame Bush.

No less an authority than Uncle Joe Biden has set the over/under at 6 months.

He should know.

And yes, the MSM will still blame Bush. They will still be blaming him 40 years form now.

By the way, I've noticed a new pattern with the MSM. Anything shy of total worship and devotion to The Messiah is labeled "being divisiveness".

I have a question for everyone.

Where in the constitution does it provide for an "office of the President-Elect"? And the MSM says nothing.

By the way, Obama is having another news conference today. Look for the market to dive as soon as it starts.

585 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:08am

re: #578 kayawanee

Yeah, I know what you mean. Many of the musicians I love (mostly prog rock) are moonbats, but the music's great. If they would just shut up and sing, everything would be fine. =)

Problem with folk music is they sing the sh*t too.

586 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:24am

re: #575 3 wood
Well yeah, we're gonna have a great Thanksgiving dinner - watching football I don't know about - Mom's not that keen on it so...
Anyway, who do you like in the Giants/Jets game this Sunday - all the NY Post sportwriters think the Jets will "clobber" the Giants!

587 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:27am

PIMF

My last post to {realwest}

I wrote "destraction"

I know - it's distraction!

*Christmas party* excuse

588 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:38am

DOW down 136

589 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:46am

Does anyone get the distinct impression that Obama has taken a good look at his friends and...

...well they may be a swell and cool bunch of radicals to hang out with but I wouldn't want to work with them.

Believe me the same thing has come up time and time again with my office and my friends.

590 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:53am

re: #573 Ford_Prefect

I have never hit anything that big. I always feel bad when I hit the smaller birds or squirrels. I tend to assume that they will fly or run out of my way, but when then don't...squish. :-(

I used to be a circulation manager for a small paper - middle of the night delivery routes. I wrote up a mock video game and put the following as BONUS FEATURES OPTION:

If you think you’re ready, choose Bonus Features to learn “Fast Critter/Slow Critter” and “Roadkill Poker” and other games to enhance your paper delivery route experience. Score 5 points for deer, 4 points for raccoons, 3 points for rabbits, 2 points for squirrels and 1 point for actually re-hitting previous roadkill with at least one tire. Ante up and open your hand with at least a pair of squirrels—wild game, but no wild cards
591 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:32:00am

Nothing is more difficult than competing with a myth.

— Françoise Giroud John McCain

fixed. Morning all. Hey I see Charles had open registration for over six hours yesterday and only 94 new hatchlings. What's up with that? Doesn't every antiidotarian in the world know LFG is the best blog on the internets? Oh well, maybe it's a good thing because there are only so many hampsters to go around and around and around.

592 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:33:13am

Obama and unintended consequences

...it was Mr. Merton who first systematically studied the law that no government can repeal.

Mr. Merton identified different causes of unintended consequences - from honest error and honest ignorance (the most frequent) to willful ignorance (the most destructive). In the context of governments, deliberate ignorance often exhibits what he called "the imperious immediacy of interest" - the instinct of legislators and bureaucrats to prevent consideration of the negative consequences that they set in motion. In some cases, he said, this propensity can be regarded as mental illness - "a pathological obsession."

...As The New York Times columnist William Kristol noted the other day, president-elect Barack Obama's senior economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, proposes to legislate a massive economic stimulus package on Day One of the new administration. "I don't know what the [dollar] number is going to be, but it's going to be a big number." Mr. Goolsbee said. "It has to be. The point is to ... startle the thing into submission."

By "thing," Mr. Goolsbee meant the global economic crisis that has thus far declined to be spooked - by anyone, by any amount. Other popular references to the U.S. recession in particular include "monster" and "beast." More and more, the recession is the "it" that came from outer space, with all the hysteria the metaphor entails. Mr. Goolsbee suggests that Mr. Obama can take down this recession by surprise, by stealth - provided his "Boo!" is loud enough. This is intellectually absurd. It is an early indicator of imperial hubris. Watch closely for unintended consequences.

When I listen to these financial experts insisting bigger and bigger bail outs and stimuli will "fix" the economy I am reminded of a witch-doctor promising to protect the village by shaking his rattle at a volcano.

593 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:33:23am

re: #586 realwest

Anyway, who do you like in the Giants/Jets game this Sunday - all the NY Post sportwriters think the Jets will "clobber" the Giants!

Giants.

The "Great Brett Favre" has lost a couple feet off his fastball.

You can sit on the receivers and jump the routes now. I figure the Giants are good for 3 picks against Favre.

594 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:34:10am

re: #588 3 wood

DOW down 136

oh no, not this again.

595 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:34:33am

re: #571 hermit

Anyone interested in the best treat to keep the greedy mitts off your fixin's until the meal is ready? My mom called it Nut & Bolts, but now they call it Chex Mix. It's an original recipe...guaranteed to become addictive...
/Happy TDE! {Turkey Day EVE} everybody?

Give, Give! I need a new recipe for snacks. :)

/hopefully I can cut down on my potato chip addiction.

596 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:34:34am

re: #584 3 wood
Oh, btw, The Office Of The President Elect is also wrong because Obama ISN'T the President Elect and won't be until after the Electoral College declares him to be so on December 15th!

597 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:03am

re: #529 Nylecoj

Does anyone here know why my interior lights would refuse to turn off when the weather turns cold?

Condensation in the wires/fuse box.

598 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:07am

re: #573 Ford_Prefect

I have never hit anything that big. I always feel bad when I hit the smaller birds or squirrels. I tend to assume that they will fly or run out of my way, but when then don't...squish. :-(

I have had 2 seagulls hit my windshield over the years. One a few weeks after I got my drivers license. It flew into me while I was on Rt.6 going probably 60 mph.
I thought someone had thrown a boulder from the overpass at first, until I saw feathers. Scared me stupid.

599 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:10am
600 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:17am

re: #590 hermit

That's just sick. :-0

I once had a kamikaze squirrel run into the side of my car as I drove past it. I looked in my rear view mirror and saw it stumbling around. It then tried the same thing with the next car...it didn't survive that one.

601 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:42am

re: #587 aussiemagpie
Well that's ok {aussie} but I think I should get a few extra *smoooches* for that! LOL!

602 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:54am

re: #584 3 wood

re: #588 3 wood

I do wish BO would just STFU- if for no other reason than just to give the market a chance to recover.

Every time he opens his yap my 401(k) takes such a hit that I have to work another year before I can retire...

Which at this rate will be when I'm 93 years old...

603 Pyrocles  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:36:19am

Reminds me of the black Archeaology professor I had in college, whose specialty was Mesoamerica. As an expert on the Aztecs, he never wanted to meet one in a dark alley; they were regarded as brutal by not only the Spaniards, but all of the other tribes that the Aztecs conquered and exploited for sacrificial victims and tribute. It wasn't just the Conquistadores who defeated the Aztec empire all by themselves; they had a LOT of help from the tribes living under the brutal Aztec yoke. Life under the Spanish was preferable to life under the Aztecs.

Same with the Inca.

re: #35 Karridine

The Myth of the Noble Savage, eh?

READ how 'noble' the Iroquois were...

Not enough? Try this... Torture was a religion, an artform...

I'll pass, theng kyew

604 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:36:20am

re: #581 aussiemagpie

LOL! Nevver too early for parties!

And it's Christmas parties here - full on - we have three this week :-)

We don't have that Thanksgiving destraction here :-)

They don't have an equivalent holiday down under - exiled convicts get together with Aborigines & eat an emu?

605 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:36:22am

re: #593 3 wood

I concur (backed with a little coin) but every team seems to be one injury away from a meltdown these days.

The Giants have been remarkably resilient and this is not even an away game for them.

606 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:00am

Just sent my Brit friend the No More Kings -Schoolhouse Rock video for his Thanksgiving edification. Actually, he grew up an Australian so he'll love it.

607 freedombilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:06am

re: #576 realwest

Hey freedombilly - almost missed that! Doc appointment went well, I said hi, he said hi, took my pulse, blood pressure, listened to me heart and lungs and we wished each other a happy holiday season.
Oh and I paid him his $30 co-pay.
I reckon he figures, $30 here, $30 there, it all adds up!
How are you doing today?

Things are a little frantic trying to get out of town but over pretty good. I not only get to see family this Thanksgiving but two dear friends who live in Dubai who are never around.

Great to hear that your appointment went well! Have a great long weekend.

608 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:11am

Mornin' all from the chilly, 28 degrees Wenatchee Valley.

609 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:22am

re: #584 3 wood

BHO ran as the anti-bush both in Economics and Foreign policy.

Among the most relevant secretarial appointments since election -
Clinton at State - had an opposite view from BHO on Iraq. Clinton, mostly, supported GWB.
Gates at Defense - is a continuation of Bush
Geitner at Tresury - is also a continuation of the Paulson bailout strategy.

So BHO, after being part of the the crowd that lambasted Bush for 4 years mercilessly, has basically changed his mind and said that Bush's policies are correct?

610 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:35am

re: #584 3 wood


Hey 3, don't know if you caught this article on Drudge this AM but it explains the office of the president elect pretty good ...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

611 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:48am

re: #598 CapeCoddah

I have had 2 seagulls hit my windshield over the years. One a few weeks after I got my drivers license. It flew into me while I was on Rt.6 going probably 60 mph.
I thought someone had thrown a boulder from the overpass at first, until I saw feathers. Scared me stupid.

Rats with wings. That's all they are.

612 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:53am

re: #596 realwest

true... but the phrase,

"Office of the Presumptive President-Elect and Secular Messiah" ,

...wouldn't fit on the special podium he had made.

613 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:38:28am

re: #593 3 wood
But, but, but - all the Sportsreporters in NYC are saying the Jets cause the Giant "D" is suspect (and of course Eli Manning is "OK" but Brett is a "God"!)?!

614 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:39:11am

re: #602 CIA Reject

re: #588 3 wood

I do wish BO would just STFU-

It's going to be a looong 4 years

615 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:39:14am

re: #611 Ford_Prefect

Rats with wings. That's all they are.

Yeah, but the tourists from Kansas love them. When I was a kid, my youngest sister used to see them at the beach, and call them "Eagles from the dump".

616 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:39:40am

re: #613 realwest
Excuse me but, why do we continue to be subjected to the Lions on Thanksgiving?

617 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:39:43am

Goodness, I'm so ignorant!

What is Thanksgiving?

I have absolutely no idea really why you celebrate this!

Just what I've seen here on LGF over the last few years I've been a lizard n

Now I'll go and google it

618 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:39:54am

re: #603 Pyrocles

The Aztec's society was based upon warfare, slavery, human sacrifice & cannibalism.

619 Crux Australis  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:40:04am

re: #581 aussiemagpie

LOL! Nevver too early for parties!

And it's Christmas parties here - full on - we have three this week :-)

We don't have that Thanksgiving destraction here :-)

As Christmas and New Years are in Summer in Australia there's always an excuse for a party. From now until February is party season in Australia.

620 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:12am

re: #582 joecitizen

hit a bigass deer on the pa. turnpike while on the way to a dylan concert in nyc...turned out to be 1 of the best weekends ever so, who knows?

About 10 years ago a big doe ran into the side of my car while I was stopped at a light. Knocked my drivers side mirror right off, and knocked itself out for a few seconds, then got up and wobbly ran off into the woods.

I got out of the car to inspect the damage, guy behind me rolled down his window and said he had never seen any thing like it.

Cost me $150 to replace the mirror assembly

621 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:16am

re: #616 pingjockey

Excuse me but, why do we continue to be subjected to the Lions on Thanksgiving?

So we have a chance to eat dinner?

622 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:41am

re: #599 Iron Fist
Good morning Bro' - first I want to make sure to wish you and the GF a very Happy Thanksgiving! Secondly, I'm telling ya, if the MSM EVER reports any of the negative things that can honestly and truthfully be said about Obama (not that honesty and truthfullness matter to the MSM) it will be the start of an avalance he won't be able to out-run. The MSM (and all his money) made Obama and they'll "unmake him" just as soon as it suits them.

623 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:52am
624 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:54am

Ha! The space geeks can't find the meteorite that maybe came down in Western Canada.

625 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:54am

re: #595 BlueCanuck

Give, Give! I need a new recipe for snacks. :)

I qualify by stating at the beginning "The nutrients and fiber in the cereal automatically counter all other factors." You've been warned:

1/2 C butter
1/2 C bacon grease (can be replaced by "more butter")
1-2 T worcestershire
1t each:
Tabasco
Garlic powder
Chili powder
Celery salt
1/4-1/2 t cayenne
HEAT until spices saturate sauce

I use a broiler pan for these-- Cheerios, Rice Chex, Wheat Chex, Pretzels (sticks or crushed up regular ones) -- Pour sauce, mix well, bake 250 for 1-1/2 hrs stirring every 30 min. Go buy ingredients for the next batch, cause it won't be around long!

626 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:56am

re: #601 realwest

Well that's ok {aussie} but I think I should get a few extra *smoooches* for that! LOL!

*Smooch* x 6 :-)

627 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:01am

re: #620 3 wood

About 10 years ago a big doe ran into the side of my car while I was stopped at a light.

D'oh!
A deer!
A female deer!

628 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:18am

re: #617 aussiemagpie


What is Thanksgiving?

It's a celebration of Capitalism, IMO.

629 Cathypop  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:18am

re: #510 Nylecoj

re: #621 DeafDog

So we have a chance to eat dinner?


YUP!

630 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:20am
631 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:27am

re: #583 x-wing

Would he consider that a promise kept for both?


You know we will. And the MSM will lie for him every step of the way.

632 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:43am

re: #618 Kenneth

The Aztec's society was based upon warfare, slavery, human sacrifice & cannibalism.

Sounds like the Democratic Party...

633 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:10am

re: #632 CIA Reject

Sounds like the Democratic Party...

Not cool! They no longer practice cannibalism!

634 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:40am

re: #585 Ford_Prefect

Problem with folk music is they sing the sh*t too.

Well, that does suck. Well, then might I suggest jazz festivals instead of folk festivals? They rarely sing, almost never sing about politics, the music is awesome, the atmosphere is cool, laid back, and even family friendly.

635 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:43am

re: #604 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

They don't have an equivalent holiday down under - exiled convicts get together with Aborigines & eat an emu?

LOL!

Not yet, but hey, what a great idea!

636 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:57am

re: #615 CapeCoddah

Yeah, but the tourists from Kansas love them. When I was a kid, my youngest sister used to see them at the beach, and call them "Eagles from the dump".

Like anything else, I guess, they are fine in small numbers, but when they get overpopulated they start to get aggressive and become a real problem. Then you get the idiots on the beaches that feed them and they just get bolder. I had to chase one off of someone's blanket last year when the thing started to rout in the person's bag looking for food. there needs to be an open season on them and canadian geese.

637 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:44:22am

re: #620 3 wood
We have some transplanted Bighorn Sheep running around here. A deer will normally haul ass to get across a road. These sheep just amble across. 5 have been killed in a month. Cause lotsa fender benders. 2 rams were doing the head butt thing right next to the road. Lotsa looky lous.

638 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:01am

re: #617 aussiemagpie

Goodness, I'm so ignorant!

What is Thanksgiving?

I have absolutely no idea really why you celebrate this!

Just what I've seen here on LGF over the last few years I've been a lizard n

Now I'll go and google it


Well, a few terms to google that will fill it in for you a bit:

Plimouth Plantation
The Mayflower
The Mayflower compact
Chief Sagamore
Governor John Bradford
Pilgrims First Thanksgiving.

And dont believe the Plymouth Rock thing, it is an urban legend.

639 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:12am

re: #625 hermit

Thank you very, very much. All that needs is some nuts and it's perfect.

/Fiber? Nutrients? who cares, the butter/bacon fat will cancel that out quickly

640 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:16am

re: #630 buzzsawmonkey
Well yes, but they aren't on NBCBSABCFOX!

641 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:43am

re: #568 CIA Reject

I think "I need a bailout" is going to be the 21st century version of "Brother can you spare a dime?"

Brother, Spare a Trillion Dimes?
Apologies to : Harburg Gorney (Brother Can You Spare A Dime)

They used to tell me
The economy’s a dream.
And so I followed the mob
When there was money to loan
Or pressure to bear
I was pushing fat loans
To every slob.

They used to tell me
I should get on the team
And help the little guy get ahead.
Undocumented unemployed standing in line
Hands out for free bread?

Once I loaned out mortgages
I made them turn
Made lots of them sub-prime.
Once I floated paper
Now it's done
Brother, spare a trillion dimes?

Once I flipped real estate it was fun
using cash that’s not mine.
Took some large commissions,
Now it's done.
Brother, spare a trillion dimes?

Once in pinstripe suits
Gee we looked swell
Loved those executive perks.
Half a million wingtips traded to the bell
With the money of other jerks!

Say don't you remember?
They called me Barney.
It was Senator all the time.
Why don't you remember?
I'm your pal.
Brother, spare a trillion dimes?

642 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:57am

re: #589 unclassifiable

...well they may be a swell and cool bunch of radicals to hang out with but I wouldn't want to work with them.

Believe me the same thing has come up time and time again with my office and my friends.

Now he is actually going to have to do something.

It's like the office pain-in-the-neck who always back stabs and 2nd guesses the boss all the time, and then has to make some decisions and fix some problems themself for once.

Now it's "uh-oh" time for The Messiah".

643 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:00am

re: #633 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not cool! They no longer practice cannibalism!

When did they go vegan?

644 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:50am

re: #591 turn

Hey I see Charles had open registration for over six hours yesterday and only 94 new hatchlings.

I bet 25% were socks.

645 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:59am

re: #612 Kenneth
ROTFLMAO! How are ya this morning my friend? Say do you Canadians celebrate Thanksgiving the way we do and if so is it the same time?!

646 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:04am

re: #597 3 wood

Condensation in the wires/fuse box.

Thank-you, I can have my son go through it (I would do it but I have hime so why?) Do you have any suggestions as to how to keep it from happening over and over again? It did it last year but of course being a bonehead I forgot once it stopped. It had never done it before that.

647 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:05am
648 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:09am

re: #617 aussiemagpie

Thanksgiving is basically a harvest festival, to give thanks for God's bounty. In the US it has a huge cultural and family significance. Everybody must go home for Thanksgiving. It's the law. The feast is bigger than that of Christmas, and includes a few peculiar dishes, including sweet potatoes prepared with marshmallows which is considered not only a delicacy, but also fit for human consumption.

If you get a chance, see the movie Planes, Trains and Automobiles... it says everything you need to know about American Thanksgiving.

649 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:11am

re: #636 Ford_Prefect

Fact: You can be on a beach or water way with one or two seagulls. Throw one piece of food and forget about counting how many that show up in seconds.

650 Pyrocles  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:53am

Of course! It's only fair... Who are we to judge? One culture's cannibalism is another's umm... Thanksgiving! Yeah...

And the Aztec practice of pulling barbed twine through a hole in the tongue to maximize pain is just like Western tongue piercing...Yeah! Actually, it probably is; which is why moonbats like it...

re: #623 buzzsawmonkey

And La Raza will bring it all back!

651 gregg  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:05am

Anyone know if the U.S. stock markets close early today and if they are open on Friday?

652 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:15am

re: #636 Ford_Prefect

Like anything else, I guess, they are fine in small numbers, but when they get overpopulated they start to get aggressive and become a real problem.

Out here, people feed the deer...'cause they're so cute! I rented a house where the lady had been giving them cut up apples with brewer's yeast every day for G_d knows how long A few days after I took over, the monsters came right up on the porch demanding their treats. I swear they were at the door and would have knocked if they could! I was thinking about a nice red win/peppercorn marinade...heh.

653 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:44am

re: #648 Kenneth

If you get a chance, see the movie Planes, Trains and Automobiles... it says everything you need to know about American Thanksgiving.

I love that movie - It's a tradition to watch it every Thanksgiving.

654 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:00am

re: #619 Crux Australis

As Christmas and New Years are in Summer in Australia there's always an excuse for a party. From now until February is party season in Australia.

Hello Crux!

I'm thinking Algore is in OZ - it's like autumn weather here isn't it

As for Christmas parties -we're full on until Christmas Eve

655 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:19am

re: #641 DaddyG

LOL!

In a Just World Dodd and Frank would end up like Ralph Bellamy and Don Ameche at the end of "Trading Places"...

656 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:38am

re: #651 gregg

Anyone know if the U.S. stock markets close early today and if they are open on Friday?


Regular close today - in 6 hrs. and 10 minutes.

Open on Friday, but it's a short session. I think they close at noon.

657 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:42am

re: #639 BlueCanuck

Thank you very, very much. All that needs is some nuts and it's perfect.

/Fiber? Nutrients? who cares, the butter/bacon fat will cancel that out quickly

HA! You and my father! He always wanted my mom to put in peanuts! If she did, I just picked 'em out and gave 'em to dad. LOL!

658 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:43am

re: #636 Ford_Prefect

Like anything else, I guess, they are fine in small numbers, but when they get overpopulated they start to get aggressive and become a real problem. Then you get the idiots on the beaches that feed them and they just get bolder. I had to chase one off of someone's blanket last year when the thing started to rout in the person's bag looking for food. there needs to be an open season on them and canadian geese.

Oh, the hand wringing and teeth gnashing. We have done it before, a long while ago, but the Moonbats do protest. We had a Veterinarian arrested on a golf course a few years ago for beating a Canada Goose with a golf club when it attacked him. He got into serious trouble.

659 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:57am

re: #602 CIA Reject

re: #588 3 wood

I do wish BO would just STFU- if for no other reason than just to give the market a chance to recover.

Every time he opens his yap my 401(k) takes such a hit that I have to work another year before I can retire...

Which at this rate will be when I'm 93 years old...

My retirement plan, die at my desk.

660 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:08am

re: #616 pingjockey
It's a tradition, ping, a tradition. Back in the day it was ALWAYS the Packers vs. the Lions and it was almost alway a GREAT GAME, both because there was genuine animosity between the two clubs and also because there were, iirc, only Two Divisions in the NFL and the Packers and Bears were in the same division!
No Lions on Thanksgiving would be like no Turkey on Thanksgiving!

661 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:15am

Peanut Butter Balls
1 pound powdered sugar
2 cups crushed graham crackers
1/2 cup smooth peanut butter
2 sticks butter
mix well
roll into balls 1 inch diameter or thereabouts
melt 1 large bag choclate chips
with 1/2 block cooking paraffin
dip formed balls into melted choclate/paraffin let cool

Sausage Balls
1 pound sausage
2 cups Bisquick
8 oz shredded cheese
mix well
form into bite size balls or patties for breakfast
bake at 350 degrees for 15-20 minutes

662 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:46am

re: #616 pingjockey

They are the NFL's version of the Thanksgiving turkey.

And occasionally the give presumptuous playoff teams salmonella poisoning.

663 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:58am

re: #628 DeafDog

It's a celebration of Capitalism, IMO.

Thanks!

Where do turkeys fit in here?:-)

664 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:51:23am

re: #621 DeafDog
LOL! MUCH better answer than my #660!

665 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:51:39am

re: #660 realwest

I know but sheesh 0-10 vs 10-1 gaaack.

666 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:08am
667 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:12am

re: #602 CIA Reject

Every time he opens his yap my 401(k) takes such a hit that I have to work another year before I can retire...

Which at this rate will be when I'm 93 years old...

Between this, the coming bankruptcy of Social Security and Medicare, and the taxes that will have to be raised, and the coming inflation that I think we will see, I believe that true "retirement" will become very rare for the foreseeable future. Retirement will only be for the very wealthy and the disabled.

While I retired from by previous career and am drawing a pension, I expect to be working full time in some way till the day I go toes up.

668 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:23am

Dah Rooshans be in Venezuela!

669 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:32am

re: #663 aussiemagpie

Thanks!

Where do turkeys fit in here?:-)

Turkey is just north of Mesopotamia, which is where rug traders invented the free market. So we eat turkey.

670 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:44am

re: #626 aussiemagpie
Ooooh! Thank you! Hope you make more typos soon! LOL! And, of course, *smoooches* back to you!

671 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:55am

re: #645 realwest

Hey real!

In Canada, Thanksgiving is in October (harvest time is earlier), but it's still a big family deal, and a big feast. Turkey is essential as is pumpkin pie for dessert. We don't go in for sweet potatoes with marshmallows or that weird green beans & onions dish. Excessive drinking and family brawls are not unknown.

672 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:56am

re: #661 pingjockey

Codfish balls - very tiny.

673 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:58am

re: #608 pingjockey

Howdy neighbor
And good morning from a fog covered ice layered Tri-Cities

674 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:06am

re: #638 CapeCoddah

Well, a few terms to google that will fill it in for you a bit:

Plimouth Plantation
The Mayflower
The Mayflower compact
Chief Sagamore
Governor John Bradford
Pilgrims First Thanksgiving.

And dont believe the Plymouth Rock thing, it is an urban legend.

Here's a more concise Thanksgiving primer, courtesy of Art Buchwald (RIP).

675 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:06am

re: #638 CapeCoddah

Well, a few terms to google that will fill it in for you a bit:

Plimouth Plantation
The Mayflower
The Mayflower compact
Chief Sagamore
Governor John Bradford
Pilgrims First Thanksgiving.

And dont believe the Plymouth Rock thing, it is an urban legend.


Thanks so much :-)

I'll do a bit of reading now

676 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:08am

re: #605 unclassifiable

The Giants have been remarkably resilient and this is not even an away game for them.

The Giants will dominate the line of scrimmage

677 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:13am

re: #666 buzzsawmonkey
Mwahaha! I love South Park.

678 Miss Trixie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:18am

{realwest} Just have time for a quick *smoochie* luv, then it's back to work. Glad to know you're better - see you later.

679 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:19am

re: #644 3 wood

I bet 25% were socks.

Yeah, and one got popped on entry, no comment necessary...dang, that Charles is wicked fast!

680 gregg  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:20am

re: #656 DeafDog

Regular close today - in 6 hrs. and 10 minutes.

Open on Friday, but it's a short session. I think they close at noon.

Thanks.

681 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:27am

Look at what one of our local morons did for shits and giggles. Hope they lock him up. Then improve the damned security.
[Link: www.capecodonline.com...]

682 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:29am

re: #671 Kenneth

Hey real!
Excessive drinking and family brawls are not unknown.

That could be any OHL game.

683 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:05am

re: #673 Nylecoj
Ice? Did the fog do the freeze all over everything?

684 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:08am

re: #634 kayawanee

Well, that does suck. Well, then might I suggest jazz festivals instead of folk festivals? They rarely sing, almost never sing about politics, the music is awesome, the atmosphere is cool, laid back, and even family friendly.

I have become a big jazz fan. I have been to the jazz weekend up at Tanglewood in Massachusetts. Saw Tony Bennett perform with Diana Krall and then a couple years later Diana Krall was there on her own. Also saw Dave Brubeck, Joey Defranceso, John Pizzarelli and many others there. Always a good time and a simply beautiful location.

685 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:52am

re: #609 DeafDog

So BHO, after being part of the the crowd that lambasted Bush for 4 years mercilessly, has basically changed his mind and said that Bush's policies are correct?

Pretty much, yeah.

But don't expect the MSM to say anything about that.

The MSM has not even noticed that neither Obama nor Hillary have any foreign policy experience.

686 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:57am

Jammie:

Just wanted to congratulate you and your co-bloggers on 2 million hits on your blog. Great job and keep up the work!

687 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:03am

what the hey, the comments are aligned on the left margin, the left column is below it, followed by the right column. IE6

688 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:04am

re: #679 hermit
Must've been a recognized ISP/address.

689 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:03am

re: #685 3 wood

Pretty much, yeah.

But don't expect the MSM to say anything about that.

The MSM has not even noticed that neither Obama nor Hillary have any foreign policy experience.

No foreign policy experience? Barry spent time in Indonesia & Pakistan & Hill faced down Serbian snipers, I'll have you know!

690 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:24am

re: #652 hermit

Out here, people feed the deer...'cause they're so cute! I rented a house where the lady had been giving them cut up apples with brewer's yeast every day for G_d knows how long A few days after I took over, the monsters came right up on the porch demanding their treats. I swear they were at the door and would have knocked if they could! I was thinking about a nice red win/peppercorn marinade...heh.

Isn't trespassing grounds for shooting?

691 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:42am

re: #668 pingjockey

Dah Rooshans be in Venezuela!

E-MER-gencia! Todos a salir desde calle!

(Best deliberately ungrammatical translation I can do of that timeless quote from The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! )

692 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:43am

Good morning Lizardland. Everything on my page is flush left. And I'm a centrist...

And it rained last night here in LA. Or so they say. /I have read about rain, but can't say I ever experienced it, before. [old LA myth -- and yeth, I myth old LA]

693 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:16am

re: #685 3 wood

Pretty much, yeah.

But don't expect the MSM to say anything about that.

The MSM has not even noticed that neither Obama nor Hillary have any foreign policy experience.

Didn't Hillary earn the Distinguished Flying Cross when she landed in Bosnia under heavy sniper fire?

694 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:19am

re: #658 CapeCoddah

Oh, the hand wringing and teeth gnashing. We have done it before, a long while ago, but the Moonbats do protest. We had a Veterinarian arrested on a golf course a few years ago for beating a Canada Goose with a golf club when it attacked him. He got into serious trouble.

FORE!

695 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:22am

re: #616 pingjockey

Excuse me but, why do we continue to be subjected to the Lions on Thanksgiving?

Tradition, and the expectation that eventually they might get good again.

You know it's bad when you look back on the Wayne Fontes years as "the good old days."

696 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:46am

re: #691 Occasional Reader
That is a classic.

697 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:46am
698 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:49am

re: #688 pingjockey

Must've been a recognized ISP/address.

Yah...Charles mentioned he had been adding some features. I'm glad, leftover Troll Buttocks is worse than leftover Turkey -- can't even use 'em in a casserole!

699 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:10am

re: #674 Occasional Reader

LOL, That is priceless, thanks, OR.

700 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:32am
701 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:39am

re: #695 3 wood
That is sad. I really feel for the Lions fans.

702 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:55am

I guess when we all get done dissing the Big Three automakers, we might cast our eyes on the mighty, innovative, well-made German marques.

German automakers on the brink?

Some senior executives already question whether Daimler and BMW will survive the crisis as independent companies. And close examination reveals that both companies significant Achilles heels.

Also contains harsh words for VW.

I found this over at Glenn Reynolds joint.

703 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:05am

re: #679 hermit

Yeah, and one got popped on entry, no comment necessary...dang, that Charles is wicked fast!

Hey, did Charles restore Cognito's registration?

704 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:08am

re: #650 Pyrocles

The Aztec priests could achieve higher acclaim and greater social status by demonstrating their ability to flail the entire skin of their victims. They wore the tanned skins as holy vestments. The meat from human sacrifice was distributed to the people of and constituted a significant part of their diet.

Just a few years before the Spaniards arrived, the Aztecs slaughtered 120,000 humans, captured from surrounding tribes, to celebrate their newest and largest temple. For this reason, the Spaniards had eager allies in the tribes neighboring the Aztecs

705 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:11am

re: #698 hermit

Left over troll buttocks makes great crab bait.

706 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:23am
707 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:24am

re: #689 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

& Hill faced down Serbian snipers, I'll have you know!

Serpentine!

(That's two Alan Arkin movie quotes in the space of, what, three minutes... life is good.)

708 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:32am

re: #667 3 wood

Between this, the coming bankruptcy of Social Security and Medicare, and the taxes that will have to be raised, and the coming inflation that I think we will see, I believe that true "retirement" will become very rare for the foreseeable future. Retirement will only be for the very wealthy and the disabled.

While I retired from by previous career and am drawing a pension, I expect to be working full time in some way till the day I go toes up.

I expect you're right on that. The trick is to find something to do that you enjoy and you can do for the rest of your life.

I plan to write at least one book...

If I can figure out how to do it without ending up in jail...

709 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:35am

re: #698 hermit
Yuck, leftover gamey troll buttocks. That'd knock a buzzard off a shit wagon.

710 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:45am

re: #690 Ford_Prefect

Isn't trespassing grounds for shooting?

May I call you from the courthouse? Just in case...?

711 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:58am
712 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:07am

re: #681 CapeCoddah

Look at what one of our local morons did for shits and giggles. Hope they lock him up. Then improve the damned security.
[Link: www.capecodonline.com...]

And security let him through? Great///

713 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:09am

re: #646 Nylecoj

Thank-you, I can have my son go through it (I would do it but I have hime so why?) Do you have any suggestions as to how to keep it from happening over and over again? It did it last year but of course being a bonehead I forgot once it stopped. It had never done it before that.

Run the defroster a lot to pull the moisture out of the interior.

714 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:15am

re: #666 buzzsawmonkey

Chocolate Salty Balls

What, is that Jesse Jackson's latest jealous slur against Obama?

715 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:24am

re: #689 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No foreign policy experience? Barry spent time in Indonesia & Pakistan & Hill faced down Serbian snipers, I'll have you know!

I received a postcard with a German stamp on it. I think I'll throw my name in the mix for Sec. o' State.

716 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:46am

re: #667 3 wood
HEY! WHADDYA MEAN " the coming bankruptcy of Social Security and Medicare"?! Huh? Without those two me and mom are destitute and have no way to pay rent or get medical help!

717 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:59am

re: #692 Golem Akbar

Good morning Lizardland. Everything on my page is flush left. And I'm a centrist...

And it rained last night here in LA. Or so they say. /I have read about rain, but can't say I ever experienced it, before. [old LA myth -- and yeth, I myth old LA]

That rain you got in LA is moving north, drizziling here in Sac. Kind of unusual for the storms to move from south to north this time of year but I don't mind, it's warming things up here.

718 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:01:15am

re: #707 Occasional Reader

Serpentine!

(That's two Alan Arkin movie quotes in the space of, what, three minutes... life is good.)

"If it weren't for The Church, that flag would be hanging outside of the U.N. today!"
"General, there are reactionaries everywhere."

719 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:01:26am
720 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:18am

re: #704 Kenneth

The Aztec priests could achieve higher acclaim and greater social status by demonstrating their ability to flail the entire skin of their victims. They wore the tanned skins as holy vestments.

How dare you presume to judge other people's richly diverse, wonderful cultural traditions, you bigot.

721 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:32am
722 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:59am

re: #697 buzzsawmonkey

Can't say that I have listened to all of them, but I have listened to some and it is great stuff. Several years ago I went down to New Orleans and just soaked up the music fro about a week. Saw The Preservation Hall Jazz Band perform and loved it. Also went and saw the Rebirth Brass band and that was an experience.

723 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:02am

re: #675 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} Start with O.R.'s link to the "Thanksgiving Primer" - it's a lot more fun!

724 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:08am

re: #705 unclassifiable

Left over troll buttocks makes great crab bait.

Wouldn't that make our bottom feeding friends cannibals?

Heck I used to laugh when crabbing with chicken parts. We were basically teaching them to desire chicken...DE is big chicken farm country. Had these visions of herds of crabs clicking their way from the water to the coops...Bwaaakk!Bwaaak! feathers flying everywhere!

725 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:08am

re: #711 buzzsawmonkey

Juxtaposing "buttocks" and "crab" brings some disturbing images to mind.

It helps to be pre-disturbed :)

726 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:26am

re: #699 CapeCoddah

LOL, That is priceless, thanks, OR.

It's been run in various newspapers' op-ed page at Thanksgiving time every year since, wow, I dunno when... decades. A classic.

727 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:27am

re: #653 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

John Candy's best role.

728 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:39am

re: #693 DeafDog

Didn't Hillary earn the Distinguished Flying Cross when she landed in Bosnia under heavy sniper fire?

I faced more gunfire growing up on the streets of Chicago than she ever saw.

729 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:05am

re: #674 Occasional Reader
Good morning O.R. - want to wish you and your bride a Happy Thanksgiving! Uh, you ARE back here in the States, right?

730 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:34am

One trillion dollars = $3200.00 for everyone in the U.S.

731 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:47am

re: #727 Kenneth

John Candy's best role.

"Larry Bird doesn't do as much ball-handling in one night as you do in 10 minutes!"

732 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:49am

re: #720 Occasional Reader

Hey, I'm not judging them. I'm simply describing what they did.

733 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:56am

re: #710 hermit

May I call you from the courthouse? Just in case...?

Sure, don't know what good it will do you though.

734 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:07am

re: #728 3 wood

I faced more gunfire growing up on the streets of Chicago than she ever saw.


Hillary thought about joining the Army. Does that count?

735 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:19am

re: #717 turn

That rain you got in LA is moving north, drizziling here in Sac. Kind of unusual for the storms to move from south to north this time of year but I don't mind, it's warming things up here.


Yes, it's a warm, tropical kind of storm. No snow in the mtns. I hope the 5 is not too bad, today. Kids driving down from SF for Thanksgiving.

736 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:23am

re: #720 Occasional Reader

How dare you presume to judge other people's richly diverse, wonderful cultural traditions, you bigot.

Well, if you live near Chicago, there is a very good exhibit on the Aztecs on at the Field Museum.

737 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:39am

re: #731 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Those aren't pillows!"

738 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:51am

re: #701 pingjockey

That is sad. I really feel for the Lions fans.

Yes, and just remember that whoever wins that division is not as good as their record may suggest, cause they had the advantage of playing the Lions twice during the year.

The Bears would be way below .500 this year but for the 2 games against the Lions.

739 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:00am

re: #678 {Miss Trixie} WOW! That was a heckuva *Smoocie* even if it was a quickie! Uh, I mean a short, or didn't last too long or, ah, gee thanks! And here's a LONG *Smoooch* back to you - enjoy it all day! LOL!

740 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:39am

re: #547 3 wood

Around these parts (Bergen County, NJ), the prices continued to drop, and were down to $1.79. They had been running 10-15 cents higher until this week. I think they're going to continue dropping.

I also read somewhere that despite the claims of recession and talking down the economy, some "experts" were claiming that sales were actually going to be up slightly this holiday season over last year by 1.5%.

Meanwhile, home prices continue to become more affordable because house prices continue correcting. Bad for people who are upside down on their loans and want to sell, but good for buyers with good credit and even mortgage rates have creeped down slightly.

741 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:41am

re: #727 Kenneth

John Candy's best role.


PT& A made me a John Candy fan. After seeing it, I rented all his older films. He was wonderful and I couldn't believe I so easily overlooked him. His death at an early age was a real shame.

742 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:13am

re: #708 CIA Reject

If I can figure out how to do it without ending up in jail...

Just rip the US and expose national secrets. By the time Obama gets done appointing US hating judges you will get a medal.

743 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:15am

re: #738 3 wood
Right now it looks like 9-7 will win that division!

744 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:43am

re: #733 Ford_Prefect

Sure, don't know what good it will do you though.

Oh, I see. You'll help Arthur Dent but not Hermit, huh? Man, at least I can use my towel to wipe my tears...*snif*

745 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:56am

re: #718 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"If it weren't for The Church, that flag would be hanging outside of the U.N. today!"
"General, there are reactionaries everywhere."

On my recent trip to Argentina, I was thinking of you, BDVM (awww...) and that very scene.

I had a flight canceled, and after a ridiculously long wait in line (American Airlines, it always seems like it's the first day they're trying this "airline" business) got my hotel voucher. Wound up at a so-so hotel in Buenos Aires called the Panamericano. Kind of your standard issue business hotel (used to be a Crowne Plaza, I think), with one exception; hanging behind the reception desk, there's this portrait of a naked woman reclining in a field. I came very close to asking upon check-in, "so, is that Mrs. Front Desk Clerk?", fully expecting to hear in response, "no, she is a girl in the village, a... how you say... prostitute", but thought better of it.

746 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:08am

re: #686 lawhawk
Hey good morning lawhawk - that was very nice of you to say - my goodness, TWO MILLION hits - no wonder Jammie isn't around much anymore!
I hope you're doing ok and that you have a GREAT THANKSGIVING!

747 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:29am

re: #737 Kenneth

"Those aren't pillows!"

That really is a great movie.

748 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:47am

re: #735 Golem Akbar

Yes, it's a warm, tropical kind of storm. No snow in the mtns. I hope the 5 is not too bad, today. Kids driving down from SF for Thanksgiving.

Naw, they should be fine (as long as they don't try and bring home those SF values) :.) Have a good one.

749 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:51am

re: #729 realwest

Good morning O.R. - want to wish you and your bride a Happy Thanksgiving! Uh, you ARE back here in the States, right?

I am, but the wife is visiting home at the moment. So I'll be joining my parents and my sister's family for San Giving in the New York area.

750 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:58am
751 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:02am
752 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:25am

OMG! Possible, mind you possible AQ plot against the NY subway system. No shit! Thanksgiving, the obambi thinks he's prez. Of course they may try something. Send this to the Dept. of Get a Frakkin' Clue.

753 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:15am

re: #744 hermit

Oh, I see. You'll help Arthur Dent but not Hermit, huh? Man, at least I can use my towel to wipe my tears...*snif*

Here's a pan galactic gargle blaster to make you feel...well...nothing...

754 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:16am

re: #695 3 wood
Hey, now you owe me a new monitor! LOL!

755 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:25am

re: #716 realwest

HEY! WHADDYA MEAN " the coming bankruptcy of Social Security and Medicare"?! Huh? Without those two me and mom are destitute and have no way to pay rent or get medical help!

Don't worry, I believe that those who already qualify will continue to get the benefits. But at some point here pretty soon, they will have to change the retirement age and criteria to qualify that essentially will exclude everyone born after a certain year. We will pay in but not qualify for benefits.

I further figure that dividing line will be somewhere in the middle or later half of the baby boom era.

756 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:53am

re: #732 Kenneth

Hey, I'm not judging them. I'm simply describing what they did.

Well, thank goodness. Because all cultures are equal in every way, you know. Except for ours, which is inferior in every way.

757 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:11am

re: #751 buzzsawmonkey

A very good point. Upding

758 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:37am
759 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:37am

Good Day, LGF.
I heard two interviews with Iranian ex-pats on CBC Radio this morning about the Iranian/Canadian/Israeli blogger Hossein Derakhshan (nic: Hoder) who has been arrested in Iran and charged with being an Israeli spy. Apparently the blogger was originally anti-mullah and anti-Ahmadinejad, but had recently done an about face and before his arrest had become anti-Israeli and supportive of Ahmadinejad and the Iranian nuclear program. And in order to curry favour with the government he had apparently "outed" an ex-patriate Iranian blogger from Winnipeg, Manitoba whose family was then harrassed and intimidated by Iranian agents.
The first interview was with some asshat from AIC, who dodged every single question and just kept saying that it was an interesting and ironic case and all they wanted was to get some information from Iran concerning the blogger's whereabouts.
The second interview was with a professor from a Canadian university, who spoke more directly. He believed that the reason for the arrest was to extract from the blogger the real names of a number of other anti-Iranian bloggers.

He then ended up expressing the rather shocking view that the absolute worst thing for the current Mullocracy will be if President Obama engages Iran on a variety of issues, since this will undermine the legitimacy of the government's bunker mentality.

Amazingly, neither guest was asked about the validity of the Zionist espionage angle.

Here's a related link.

760 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:38am

re: #756 Occasional Reader
You have the leftist, msm meme down to a T.

761 bosforus  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:41am

Morning all! Any good overnight news?

762 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:01am

re: #648 Kenneth

Thanksgiving is basically a harvest festival, to give thanks for God's bounty. In the US it has a huge cultural and family significance. Everybody must go home for Thanksgiving. It's the law. The feast is bigger than that of Christmas, and includes a few peculiar dishes, including sweet potatoes prepared with marshmallows which is considered not only a delicacy, but also fit for human consumption.

If you get a chance, see the movie Planes, Trains and Automobiles... it says everything you need to know about American Thanksgiving.

Thanks Kenneth

I've looked at this movie review, so I will watch it to get a Thanksgiving clue :-)

Marshmallows with sweet potatoes - mmm not sure about that one

In OZ, Christmas is the family thing - you must see family then :-)

763 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:10am

oh no. mind crime. somebody is asking questions. Guards - seize him.

“Mr. Geithner, the job of the New York Fed is to — now I am quoting its own web site — ’supervise and regulate financial institutions in the Second District [Wall Street]. Its primary objective is to maintain safe and competitive U.S. and global banking systems.’ You have been in your current post since 2003 and during that time the U.S. financial system has come close to complete disintegration. Why do you deserve a promotion?”

764 CIA Reject  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:22am

re: #742 3 wood

Just rip the US and expose national secrets. By the time Obama gets done appointing US hating judges you will get a medal.

That would be a great strategy except for the fact that I have a conscience...

/Rats!

765 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:57am

re: #741 Golem Akbar

A cousin of mine had to go to his house to do some computer work way back when. He told me that John Candy was very quiet, polite, an humble. You would never know it from some of his roles he played.

766 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:13:14am

re: #741 Golem Akbar

I had the great pleasure of meeting John Candy once. He was a genuinely sweet man. Not an ounce of arrogance or Hollywood attitude.

767 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:13:35am

re: #755 3 wood

My retirement plan will look similar to the Inuits'.

Going off for the final great hunt and never coming back.

768 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:13:50am

re: #740 lawhawk

Around these parts (Bergen County, NJ), the prices continued to drop, and were down to $1.79. They had been running 10-15 cents higher until this week. I think they're going to continue dropping.

I also read somewhere that despite the claims of recession and talking down the economy, some "experts" were claiming that sales were actually going to be up slightly this holiday season over last year by 1.5%.

Meanwhile, home prices continue to become more affordable because house prices continue correcting. Bad for people who are upside down on their loans and want to sell, but good for buyers with good credit and even mortgage rates have creeped down slightly.

I paid $1.80 the other day. I guess technically I was in Passaic County at the time. It's gotten to where I'm putting in $20 a pop rather than filling up since it's dropping every day. I'll have to get some later.

Still haven't seen any news crews at the pumps asking me what I'm doing with all the savings.

769 saberry0530  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:00am

Better than a Flu Shot!
>
> Miss Beatrice, the church organist, was in her eighties and had never been
> married. She was admired for her sweetness and kindness to all. One afternoon
> the pastor came to call on her and she showed him into her quaint sitting
> room. She invited him to have a seat while she prepared tea. As he sat facing
> her old Hammond organ, the young minister noticed a cute glass bowl
> sitting on top of it. The bowl was filled with water, and in the water floated, of
> all things, a condom!
>
> When she returned with tea and scones, they began to chat. The pastor tried
> to stifle his curiosity about the bowl of water and its strange floater, but
> soon it got the better of him and he could no longer resist.
>
> 'Miss Beatrice', he said, 'I wonder if you would tell me about this?'
> pointing to the bowl.
>
> 'Oh, yes,' she replied, 'Isn't it wonderful? I was walking through the park
> a few months ago and I found this little package on the ground. The
> directions said to place it on the organ, keep it wet and that it would prevent the
> spread of disease. Do you know I haven't had the flu all winter.'
>

770 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:00am

re: #752 pingjockey

OMG! Possible, mind you possible AQ plot against the NY subway system. No shit! Thanksgiving, the obambi thinks he's prez. Of course they may try something. Send this to the Dept. of Get a Frakkin' Clue.

I posted a link to Dick Morris' column about just that. I don't want anyone to be in a position to say I told you so about terrorism, but that may just happen. Pray it doesn't.

771 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:59am

re: #756 Occasional Reader

Yeah, the Spaniards were real meanies for killing the genocidal cannibalistic Aztec priests and converting the people to Christianity.

772 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:02am

re: #661 pingjockey

Oh, Holiday recipes. Here is mine:

Apple and Cranberry Bread Pudding /Family size

12 large eggs
2 large loaves of bread, cubed
1 1/2 cups granulated sugar
1 tsp Pure Vanilla
4 oz Honey
1 tsp ground cinnamon
1 qt. Heavy Cream
4 oz Dried/sweetened Cranberries
8 0z Cranberry Chutney
15 Apples, peeled and sliced thin
6 oz Applesauce

In a large bowl, add eggs and cream. Whisk. Add sugar, Vanilla, Honey, Cinnamon and Applesauce. Beat until smooth.
Dice bread in a separate bowl. Add Apples, cranberries and cranberry chutney.
Mix together until well blended.
Place in baking dish, and top with caramel sauce. Bake in pre heated 350 degree oven for 35 Minutes, until soft/ set

Caramel Sauce:
4oz Brown Sugar
4 oz whole butter
1/2 cup heavy cream

Melt butter and brown sugar together. Add heavy cream and bring to a slight boil. Pour over bread pudding before baking.

773 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:07am

re: #766 Kenneth

I had the great pleasure of meeting John Candy once. He was a genuinely sweet man. Not an ounce of arrogance or Hollywood attitude.

The more I hear of him (and read), the more I realize we lost a truly great talent when he died, and died way way too early an age.

774 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:07am

re: #613 realwest

But, but, but - all the Sportsreporters in NYC are saying the Jets cause the Giant "D" is suspect (and of course Eli Manning is "OK" but Brett is a "God"!)?!

Only as long as he was wearing a Packer jersey. . .now he is fallen. . .

775 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:14am

re: #755 3 wood

Don't worry, I believe that those who already qualify will continue to get the benefits. But at some point here pretty soon, they will have to change the retirement age and criteria to qualify that essentially will exclude everyone born after a certain year. We will pay in but not qualify for benefits.

I further figure that dividing line will be somewhere in the middle or later half of the baby boom era.

Sadly, I agree. People in their 40s or younger cannot expect any Social Security benefits. The cost would just be too high.

776 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:36am

re: #768 JammieWearingFool

I paid $1.80 the other day. I guess technically I was in Passaic County at the time. It's gotten to where I'm putting in $20 a pop rather than filling up since it's dropping every day. I'll have to get some later.

Still haven't seen any news crews at the pumps asking me what I'm doing with all the savings.

I stopped filling up about a year ago - I just could not bear the pain of $60 a fill-up. So I put in only $10 -12 at a time. Yesterday, at $1.69, I got 7 gallons, which was nice.

777 chicken kiev  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:39am

648 Kenneth


Everybody must go home for Thanksgiving. It's the law.

No it isn't! Now you're making me feel really guilty, because I'm not going back to the hometown and the relatives.

Thanksgiving happens wherever the American is, and with whomever the American is spending it.

The real problem is that way too many Americans totally forget about the "thanking" part -- many don't even devote a minute of that day to remembering what they're thankful for, or for giving thanks. Right there amidst the bounty of friends, family, food, in the greatest country in the world, they just take it all for granted on Thanksgiving as they do the rest of the year.

That's what gets me. Every Thanksgiving repast should have a moment of silence for private thanks-giving, and/or going round the circle with everyone saying something they're thankful for.

778 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:58am

re: #755 3 wood

Don't worry, I believe that those who already qualify will continue to get the benefits. But at some point here pretty soon, they will have to change the retirement age and criteria to qualify that essentially will exclude everyone born after a certain year. We will pay in but not qualify for benefits.

I further figure that dividing line will be somewhere in the middle or later half of the baby boom era.

That slope is already in place. I, as a certified old fart born in '54 (19 not 18) can retire at 65 and begin to wallow in the full magnificence that is SS. My wife, a mere child born in 1957, has to work until she is 67.

779 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:01am

re: #669 DeafDog

Turkey is just north of Mesopotamia, which is where rug traders invented the free market. So we eat turkey.

Yeah right... I'm supposed to believe that? What are you, a Turkish rug salesman? :-)

780 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:25am

re: #760 pingjockey

You have the leftist, msm meme down to a T.

I'd say this particular manifestation is more academia than MSM... but yep, that's it.

Mark Steyn once mentioned a quote by some ivory tower dope who waxed eloquent about how much we in the West can learn from Africa when it comes to dealing with HIV/AIDS. A rather casual glance at infection rates (not to mention any devoted study of cultural practices, stigmatization of victims, etc.) should have belied that notion.

781 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:33am

re: #712 Ford_Prefect

And security let him through? Great///

Yeah, security let him throough. He was given a tour of the cockpit, and told the identities of the Air Marshals on board.

782 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:37am

re: #771 Kenneth

Yeah, the Spaniards were real meanies for killing the genocidal cannibalistic Aztec priests and converting the people to Christianity.

The much maligned Mel Gibson made an excellent movie about that.

783 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:47am
784 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:44am

re: #740 lawhawk

Around these parts (Bergen County, NJ), the prices continued to drop, and were down to $1.79. They had been running 10-15 cents higher until this week. I think they're going to continue dropping.

I also read somewhere that despite the claims of recession and talking down the economy, some "experts" were claiming that sales were actually going to be up slightly this holiday season over last year by 1.5%.

Meanwhile, home prices continue to become more affordable because house prices continue correcting. Bad for people who are upside down on their loans and want to sell, but good for buyers with good credit and even mortgage rates have creeped down slightly.

Yeah, I think we are nearing the bottom.

785 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:01am

re: #730 pingjockey
Huh, well you can have mom and me's $6,400 buckos!
See how generous I am?!?

786 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:07am

re: #747 Ford_Prefect

That really is a great movie.

We watch in every year. . .not the kids of course. . .

My favorite part? Hard to say, but this one is good;
"I really do not appreciate the way you ae speaing to me

Well, I didn't really appreciate the way your effing company left me in the middle of an effing parking lot with effing keys to an effing car that wasn't effing there. . .
"I want a effing car, right effing now"

787 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:10am

re: #780 Occasional Reader
Academia = the realm of over inflated egos, severe lack of common sense and asshattery.

788 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:12am

re: #586 realwest

Well yeah, we're gonna have a great Thanksgiving dinner - watching football I don't know about - Mom's not that keen on it so...
Anyway, who do you like in the Giants/Jets game this Sunday - all the NY Post sportwriters think the Jets will "clobber" the Giants!

Uh, the Giants are playing at Washington Sunday. They don't play the Jets until the Super Bowl 2012 season.

789 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:32am

re: #684 Ford_Prefect

I have become a big jazz fan. I have been to the jazz weekend up at Tanglewood in Massachusetts. Saw Tony Bennett perform with Diana Krall and then a couple years later Diana Krall was there on her own. Also saw Dave Brubeck, Joey Defranceso, John Pizzarelli and many others there. Always a good time and a simply beautiful location.

I used to go every year in June to the Freihoffer's Jazz Fest at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center (SPAC). It's a really great location inside a state park--probably very similar to Tanglewood. Great line-ups just about every year.

790 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:55am

To all LA Lizards: I got gas yesterday at Costco. $1.87
Of course, the place was jammed.

791 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:55am

re: #726 Occasional Reader

It's been run in various newspapers' op-ed page at Thanksgiving time every year since, wow, I dunno when... decades. A classic.

I have not read papers for years. May have seen it a long time ago, not sure.
Thanks anyway, though. I enjoyed it this morning!

792 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:56am

re: #762 aussiemagpie

Thanks Kenneth

I've looked at this movie review, so I will watch it to get a Thanksgiving clue :-)

Marshmallows with sweet potatoes - mmm not sure about that one

In OZ, Christmas is the family thing - you must see family then :-)


Hey Aussie, Playing this song is another American Thanksgiving tradition (at least in my age group)

Youtube Video
793 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:01am

re: #779 aussiemagpie

Yeah right... I'm supposed to believe that? What are you, a Turkish rug salesman? :-)

Seriously - the thanksgiving holiday started as a 'feast of the bounty.' Basically, really good harvests and so the folks gourged.

In 2008, the US still has a pretty good bounty, but it's not about farmers, it's about our capitalistic society.

Ergo, IMO, Thangsgiving is a celebration of Capitalism.

Turkey is just a good tradition.

794 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:11am

re: #777 chicken kiev

Well said. One should spend more time thinking about the blessings one is thankful for.

795 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:46am

re: #785 realwest
Very. I have 3 boys and I have no idea what to do for Christmas. Gonna be kinda thin. May have to do the unthinkable and tell the 8 yr old there is no Santa Claus. Crap!

796 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:54am

re: #771 Kenneth

Yeah, the Spaniards were real meanies for killing the genocidal cannibalistic Aztec priests and converting the people to Christianity.

Well, all kidding aside; the Spaniards were meanies, too. They weren't doing any of this out of the goodness of their hearts; yes, it was "imperialism", and not the silly-ass definition of the word that's thrown about today. And yes, they were brutal in their own right. But what has to be pushed back is the nonsensical "this was a paradise before Columbus" myth.

797 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:15am

re: #787 pingjockey

Academia = the realm of over inflated egos, severe lack of common sense and asshattery.

Bravo, that is a good one.

798 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:24am

Speaking of different cultures, Aztec, etc., there's an interesting post/article at the "Full Comment" website (a blog for the National Post). The title is "Norman Doidge: re-evaluating the basis of the brain", and Doidge argues that the brain is far more capable of changing than has been previously believed. (Doidge provides further evidence for neuroplasticity -- tomorrow the CBC will broadcast a program on brain plasticity, on "The Nature of Things"). Pinker (one of the many reasons why I'm not a big fan of Pinker) has argued against the idea of brain plasticity. Anyway, in the article, Doidge writes:

"Plasticity requires that we re-examine culture, too. Most think the relationship between the brain and culture is a simple one: The human brain produces culture. In fact our culture also moulds our brains. Just as children with learning disorders can develop new processors, different cultures cultivate different kinds of brains, en masse. The Sea Gypsies, a tribe off the coast of Thailand, learn to see clearly underwater, diving 10 metres in their hunt for food — an example of a whole culture that has developed a super-sense.
As Richard Nisbett shows in The Geography of Thought, when Asians look at still life pictures they see the relationships between the objects very clearly, but the main object less clearly. Westerners see the opposite. These perceptual differences are not based on a difference of opinion about what to focus on, but on involuntary, unconscious brain processing wired into the subjects by their culture, and alterable by emigration. Thus many of the differences between cultures and civilizations need not be seen as based on either genetic (biological) or experiential differences. Cultural experience shapes biology, and no
doubt biology shapes cultural experience. These discoveries promise to reshape, in the most profound way, our understanding of cultural acquisition, conflicts, immigration tensions and even the rates at which we, in a globalized world, can expect each other to change."

I think the entire article is well worth reading...

799 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:25am

re: #771 Kenneth

Yeah, the Spaniards were real meanies for killing the genocidal cannibalistic Aztec priests and converting the people to Christianity.

Conquest by Hugh Thomas is an excellent history of the Spanish conquest of Mexico. It doesn't portray the Spanish as saints, but certainly doesn't shy away from describing the brutality of the Aztecs & why the Spanish had so many allies among the other Mexican tribes willing to overthrow the Aztecs.

800 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:27am

re: #768 JammieWearingFool

I paid $1.80 the other day. I guess technically I was in Passaic County at the time. It's gotten to where I'm putting in $20 a pop rather than filling up since it's dropping every day. I'll have to get some later.

Still haven't seen any news crews at the pumps asking me what I'm doing with all the savings.

I read upthread you reached 2 mil hits, congradulations! Those Instavalanches must have helped a bit. Keep up the good work.

801 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:51am

re: #723 realwest

Hey {aussie} Start with O.R.'s link to the "Thanksgiving Primer" - it's a lot more fun!

OK I will, just point me in the right direction {darls}

Where do I start?

802 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:53am

I find it very interesting that in Canada Thanksgiving is not celebrated by Jews nearly to the same extent as in the USA. I guess it is even more of a secular holiday down there than it is up here.

803 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:54am

re: #796 Occasional Reader
Plus the asshole priests burned most of the Aztec books.

804 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:55am

re: #759 Spare O'Lake

Nice to know the CBC is now shilling for the mullahs. Shilling for Saddam and the Taliban didn't pan out so well for them... time to update their moral bankruptcy.

805 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:33am

re: #775 Dark_Falcon

Sadly, I agree. People in their 40s or younger cannot expect any Social Security benefits. The cost would just be too high.

I was born in 1958 and have been paying into social security since I was 16.

I doubt that I will ever see a dime of it back.

806 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:48am

re: #715 razorbacker

I received a postcard with a German stamp on it. I think I'll throw my name in the mix for Sec. o' State.

I visited Disney's "It's a Small World" exhibit as a child. So I'm more qualified than you OR Hillary!

807 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:54am

re: #790 Golem Akbar

To all LA Lizards: I got gas yesterday at Costco. $1.87
Of course, the place was jammed.

Shell=$1.62.9

BTW...Interesting: Text of Constitution Bars Senator Clinton from Serving as Secretary of State

Okay, so it's Ace. It makes me smile anyway.

808 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:23am

re: #647 buzzsawmonkey

If you'll pardon a slight editorial comment, Barney Frank is a Congressman, not a Senator--and his name doesn't scan there.

You are correct I didn't do my homework. I appreciate the upding from you - a master of alternate lyrics.

809 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:34am

re: #805 3 wood
I was born in '59 and started paying in at 13, working in the apple orchards. I doubt I'll see any either.

810 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:42am

re: #781 CapeCoddah

Yeah, security let him throough. He was given a tour of the cockpit, and told the identities of the Air Marshals on board.

That is an outrage. How hard could it be to get reasonable looking fake badges. I can't believe they couldn't, or didn't, do at least a reasonable check to see if he was who he claimed to be. And even still, he never should be given that tour or that info.

811 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:51am

Okay, now everyone who has these "nutty" misperceptions about Native Americans being anything other than humble, pastoral, all-embracing welcomers of European "helpers" -- just slow down.
Our President-Elect, as the first Native American president, will show you the truth about--- huh? He's what? But I thought we--? So, you're saying we've never had a Native American president? Oh...
/channeling Emily Latella..."Nevermind"

812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:56am

re: #780 Occasional Reader

Mark Steyn once mentioned a quote by some ivory tower dope who waxed eloquent about how much we in the West can learn from Africa when it comes to dealing with HIV/AIDS. A rather casual glance at infection rates (not to mention any devoted study of cultural practices, stigmatization of victims, etc.) should have belied that notion.

Such as the belief that if an infected man would have sex with an uninfected virgin woman, he would be cured?

813 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:23:01am

re: #755 3 wood
WHEW! Glad to hear that! Uh, I mean that we'll continue to receive benefits! But just so's you know, I figure when I die, I'll still have over $200,000 in Social Security alone (not including any interest at all that it SHOULDA BEEN EARNING) so at least I'll leave y'all with something!

814 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:23:07am

Oh, and FWIW, the Giants will pound the Redskins like cheap veal. Somewhere in the 35-17 range.

realwest--I bet you never thought you'd see the day when the NYG were the highest scoring team in the NFL. If they were a classless outfit like, say, the Cowboys, they would probably be dropping 45 a game on everyone without breaking a sweat. No Burress, no Jacobs and they put up 37 last Sunday with ease.

815 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:23:07am

re: #783 buzzsawmonkey

Ottoman New York
Why does it seem so inviting?

Well, when you couch it in those terms...

816 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:23:35am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

Well, all kidding aside; the Spaniards were meanies, too. They weren't doing any of this out of the goodness of their hearts; yes, it was "imperialism", and not the silly-ass definition of the word that's thrown about today. And yes, they were brutal in their own right. But what has to be pushed back is the nonsensical "this was a paradise before Columbus" myth.

Concur. Neither side were really good guys in that fight. Both the Aztecs and Spaniards were greedy for land and treasure. The Spanish however, were better armed and had the best leader. They also had the advantage of some level of immunity to smallpox, which cut down the Aztecs by the thousands.

817 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:23:47am

re: #802 Spare O'Lake

I find it very interesting that in Canada Thanksgiving is not celebrated by Jews nearly to the same extent as in the USA. I guess it is even more of a secular holiday down there than it is up here.

Sukkot is like thanksgiving. . .but we celebrate it, it was one of the first American holidays my family celebrated- the first? 4th of July of course!

818 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:09am

re: #805 3 wood

I was born in 1958 and have been paying into social security since I was 16.

I doubt that I will ever see a dime of it back.

Oh, come now, don't you get your regular Social Security "account statement"? See?! Iron-clad lockbox, baby!

/

819 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:09am
820 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:15am

re: #790 Golem Akbar

To all LA Lizards: I got gas yesterday at Costco. $1.87
Of course, the place was jammed.

Now that's crazy cheap out there. When I was out there in the spring prices were a buck more than on the east coast.

821 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:20am

re: #786 DisturbedEma

We watch in every year. . .not the kids of course. . .

My favorite part? Hard to say, but this one is good;
"I really do not appreciate the way you ae speaing to me

Well, I didn't really appreciate the way your effing company left me in the middle of an effing parking lot with effing keys to an effing car that wasn't effing there. . .
"I want a effing car, right effing now"

"Do you have your receipt?"
"I threw it away."
"Oh, boy!"
"Oh boy what?"
"You're f*cked."

822 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:22am

re: #778 razorbacker

That slope is already in place. I, as a certified old fart born in '54 (19 not 18) can retire at 65 and begin to wallow in the full magnificence that is SS. My wife, a mere child born in 1957, has to work until she is 67.

Thanks. I'd not paid attention cause I came to the conclusion many years ago that I would never see a dime for SS anyway.

823 nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:23am

re: #683 pingjockey
It sure did. I am hoping for a thaw later in the day. fingers crossed!

824 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:53am

re: #761 bosforus
Good morning! Yes, there was...the Sun came up and we all woke up on the right side of the grass!

825 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:50am

re: #823 nylecoj
I think the high here is only supposed to be 40. So it's gonna be iffy for a thaw.

826 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:54am

re: #815 Occasional Reader

Well, when you couch it in those terms...

Sofa, so good. . .

827 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:14am

re: #787 pingjockey

Academia = the realm of over inflated egos, severe lack of common sense and asshattery.

In spades.

And you can add Marxism

828 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:48am

re: #827 3 wood
Damn! Thanks, knew I missed one or two.

829 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:50am

re: #819 buzzsawmonkey

I would think that one species of Hell would be replicating the same song in the same way at the same time of year, year after year.

Especially when that song relies upon the appearance of an aw-shucks folk spontaneity, and has become as formalized as any liturgy.

Can you translate that for me Buz?

830 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:58am

re: #783 buzzsawmonkey

Ottoman New York
Why does it seem so inviting?

LOL! You must be the rugged (outdoor) type

Or are you a doormat? :-)

831 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:05am

re: #821 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Do you have your receipt?"
"I threw it away."
"Oh, boy!"
"Oh boy what?"
"You're f*cked."

YEAAAH! Awesome movie!

832 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:09am

re: #671 Kenneth

Hey real!

In Canada, Thanksgiving is in October (harvest time is earlier), but it's still a big family deal, and a big feast. Turkey is essential as is pumpkin pie for dessert. We don't go in for sweet potatoes with marshmallows or that weird green beans & onions dish. Excessive drinking and family brawls are not unknown.

WHAT? No green bean casserole? A fatwa upon your house!

833 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:18am

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Such as the belief that if an infected man would have sex with an uninfected virgin woman, he would be cured?

Yes, we in the West can learn so much from this!

/

Hey, did you see my The In-Laws moment upthread? If you don't "get it", nobody will.

834 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:28am

re: #815 Occasional Reader

Well, when you couch it in those terms...

[smiles]

835 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:53am

re: #789 kayawanee

I used to go every year in June to the Freihoffer's Jazz Fest at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center (SPAC). It's a really great location inside a state park--probably very similar to Tanglewood. Great line-ups just about every year.

I got married about three and a half years ago and became a dad about two and a half years ago. I don't get to too many festivals anymore. One that I would love to get to is the Montreal Jazz fest. That is supposed to be great.

836 Buck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:05am

re: #3 Karridine

This is no myth: I will recognize Obama as America's president IF he is an American, and IF he completes the requirements as laid out in the Constitution!

You know how you sound right? Just like the BDS kooks. Worse... you sound like the truthers.

The issue has been put down.

837 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:17am

Later folks, would absolutely love to stay, but work calls. Damn.

838 nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:39am

re: #713 3 wood
Thank-you!

839 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:41am

re: #813 realwest

I figure when I die, I'll still have over $200,000 in Social Security alone (not including any interest at all that it SHOULDA BEEN EARNING) so at least I'll leave y'all with something!

You are going to be around a whole lot longer real.

840 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:50am

re: #816 Dark_Falcon

Concur. Neither side were really good guys in that fight. Both the Aztecs and Spaniards were greedy for land and treasure. The Spanish however, were better armed and had the best leader. They also had the advantage of some level of immunity to smallpox, which cut down the Aztecs by the thousands.

I can't really say I regret it. Without the Spanish/Portuguese Conquest, Latin America would be devoid of super-hotties.

841 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:29:05am

re: #774 DisturbedEma
But he had a GREAT game last week - so that means he'll have a GREAT game against the Giants! At least that's what the NY Sportswriters were saying!
BTW, NY Sportswriters are like the Dems in one (at least) respect: they love to eat their own! Part of the fun of the Giant's winning the last Superbowl was havning the pleasure of reading the NY Sportswriters backpeddaling from their pre-game picks!

842 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:29:57am

re: #833 Occasional Reader


Hey, did you see my The In-Laws moment upthread? If you don't "get it", nobody will.

The "Mrs. Front Desk Clerk" story? That made me smile.

843 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:29:59am

re: #830 aussiemagpie

LOL! You must be the rugged (outdoor) type

Outdoorsy? Nah, buzzsaw's just a la-z-boy.

(That pun may not translate...)

844 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:03am

re: #818 Occasional Reader

Oh, come now, don't you get your regular Social Security "account statement"? See?! Iron-clad lockbox, baby!

Some people actually think that's how it works.

Boy are they in for a big surprise.

845 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:08am

re: #804 Kenneth

I'm assuming that the program was "The Current" (?), if so, then (as I'm sure you're aware) as been pro-Islamist for years and years...What's also troubling is the "prof" at the university who also supports the Mullahs -- yet another one?

846 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:25am

re: #832 Who Watches the Watchmen?

WHAT? No green bean casserole? A fatwa upon your house!

A couple of years ago one of the nieces asked where the green bean casserole was. Granny said I didn't make it this year, y'all never eat it.

Niece says, "Of course not, that tastes yucky. But we always have it for Thanksgiving!"

847 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:53am

re: #840 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can't really say I regret it. Without the Spanish/Portuguese Conquest, Latin America would be devoid of super-hotties.

Exactly. I think of the whole "Conquest of the Americas" thing as one grand process leading up to Adriana Lima. It was worth it, if you ask me.

848 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:01am

re: #841 realwest

But he had a GREAT game last week - so that means he'll have a GREAT game against the Giants! At least that's what the NY Sportswriters were saying!
BTW, NY Sportswriters are like the Dems in one (at least) respect: they love to eat their own! Part of the fun of the Giant's winning the last Superbowl was havning the pleasure of reading the NY Sportswriters backpeddaling from their pre-game picks!

Yes yes, but he had a great legacy in Green Bay and he ruined it. . .he is dead to me. . .sort of. . .not really, I pine for him. . .I cannot leaf him alone. . .:)

849 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:11am

Obama has the Office of the President-Elect.
Clinton had the Office of the President Erect.

850 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:27am

Who broke DA BLOG?

851 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:40am

re: #833 Occasional Reader

If you don't "get it", nobody will.

I hope BDVM gets it! just hearing the word "serpentine" cracks me up because of that scene! I will go back and make sure I dinged you up!

852 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:45am

re: #746 realwest

Thanks! And to you and yours too!

853 CapeCoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:51am

re: #810 Ford_Prefect

That is an outrage. How hard could it be to get reasonable looking fake badges. I can't believe they couldn't, or didn't, do at least a reasonable check to see if he was who he claimed to be. And even still, he never should be given that tour or that info.

I agree, what the hell are we paying for?

854 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:53am

re: #842 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The "Mrs. Front Desk Clerk" story? That made me smile.

At some point I'll post the pic I snapped of the thing to flickr. The painting is just perfect.

855 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:10am

re: #780 Occasional Reader
Oh, O.R., c'mon now - you know that "A rather casual glance..." would almost be akin to research and there's no profit from doing research at all!

856 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:22am

Wow, before you fork over $799 to Circuit Cit for your new Samsung "52 TV, make sure you have room for it for it is a big mother[expletive deleted].

/don't worry about the warranty, Samsung will bug the [expletive deleted] out of you to get it

857 DeafDog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:23am

re: #805 3 wood

I was born in 1958 and have been paying into social security since I was 16.

I doubt that I will ever see a dime of it back.


I think you will, but the rate of increase of SSN payments will decline to a rate lower than inflation.

858 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:36am

re: #806 Occasional Reader

I have been cussed out in over 10 different languages just in Houston alone.

OK so I guess I'll ask for a deputy SOS position just in case.

859 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:40am

re: #686 lawhawk

Jammie:

Just wanted to congratulate you and your co-bloggers on 2 million hits on your blog. Great job and keep up the work!

Thanks. Took 20 months to get the first million but only four to get to two million. Been some post-election dropoff, but I figured that was coming.

Been crazy busy with my real job so I post when I can.

860 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:56am
861 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:59am

DOW crawling back up to being only 47 points down.

Of course, it will plummet 150 when The Messiah starts running his mouth.

862 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:59am

re: #792 turn

Hey Aussie, Playing this song is another American Thanksgiving tradition (at least in my age group)

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Hi, turn!

We do love this song :-)

And I'm sure we're older than you, why just today we finished filiing out our forms for our GT striped Corvette styled with mags and drink holders, walkers :-)

863 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:27am

re: #853 CapeCoddah

I agree, what the hell are we paying for?

Federal employees who get to retire on full pensions after 20 years, that's what.

864 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:35:05am

re: #692 Golem Akbar

Golem!

865 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:35:31am

re: #860 buzzsawmonkey

Hell. Wouldn't you consider it to be Hell? To have to reiterate, convincingly, something from your 20's as if it were fresh and topical forty years later?

Depends. How much are they paying me to do it?

866 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:35:32am

re: #793 DeafDog

Seriously - the thanksgiving holiday started as a 'feast of the bounty.' Basically, really good harvests and so the folks gourged.

In 2008, the US still has a pretty good bounty, but it's not about farmers, it's about our capitalistic society.

Ergo, IMO, Thangsgiving is a celebration of Capitalism.

Turkey is just a good tradition.


Thanks, and I'm looking at some info on the internet - it's quite fascinating really

867 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:06am

re: #800 turn

I read upthread you reached 2 mil hits, congradulations! Those Instavalanches must have helped a bit. Keep up the good work.

Yes, Instalanches sure help. Those alone are probably good for a couple hundred thousand of my visits overall. I'm grateful to anyone who links, let's put it that way. Even when the lunatics from the HuffPost link.

868 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:36am

re: #788 JammieWearingFoolHUH?! Then how come all the writers in the NY Post were talking about the Giants vs. the Jets?! Eli vs. Brett? Just this past Tuesday for cryin' out loud?!

869 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:38am

re: #807 razorbacker

Shell=$1.62.9

BTW...Interesting: Text of Constitution Bars Senator Clinton from Serving as Secretary of State

Okay, so it's Ace. It makes me smile anyway.


Shell stations here in LA?

870 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:41am

re: #861 3 wood

DOW crawling back up to being only 47 points down.

Of course, it will plummet 150 when The Messiah starts running his mouth.

It always does. Why, you would think that people who understand the economy are worried about Obama. The One must purge this heresy!

/sarc

871 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:37:03am

re: #612 Kenneth

And infanticide proponent..

872 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:37:05am

re: #864 WriterMom

Golem!


WM! Boker tov, missy.

873 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:37:13am

re: #863 Dark_Falcon

Federal employees who get to retire on full pensions after 20 years, that's what.

I don't really have a problem with that as long as those federal employees are the ones putting their lives on the line for those twenty years. But if you are just some pencil pusher like most of us then that is just wrong.

874 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:37:57am

re: #873 Ford_Prefect

I don't really have a problem with that as long as those federal employees are the ones putting their lives on the line for those twenty years. But if you are just some pencil pusher like most of us then that is just wrong.

Agreed.

875 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:02am
876 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:06am

re: #860 buzzsawmonkey

Hell. Wouldn't you consider it to be Hell? To have to reiterate, convincingly, something from your 20's as if it were fresh and topical forty years later?

Sounds like academia to me.

877 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:01am
878 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:20am

re: #873 Ford_Prefect

I don't really have a problem with that as long as those federal employees are the ones putting their lives on the line for those twenty years. But if you are just some pencil pusher like most of us then that is just wrong.


Now wait just a goldurned minute. Pencil pushers can be dangerous, too, you know.

879 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:35am

re: #804 Kenneth

Nice to know the CBC is now shilling for the mullahs. Shilling for Saddam and the Taliban didn't pan out so well for them... time to update their moral bankruptcy.

re: #845 J.S.

I'm assuming that the program was "The Current" (?), if so, then (as I'm sure you're aware) as been pro-Islamist for years and years...What's also troubling is the "prof" at the university who also supports the Mullahs -- yet another one?

Yep.
But if the prof is correct, then Ahmadinejad might not be interested in "engaging" with Obama without some prior preconditions of his own.

880 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:35am

re: #868 realwest

HUH?! Then how come all the writers in the NY Post were talking about the Giants vs. the Jets?! Eli vs. Brett? Just this past Tuesday for cryin' out loud?!

Brett, Brett. . .et tu? sigh. . .

881 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:59am

re: #860 buzzsawmonkey

I agree that the song has remained unchanged but I'm not as hung up on the draft aspect as you seem to be. I think the song is cute and funny, especially the part about sitting on the bench. I don't get tired of listening to it on Thanksgiving, it usually plays on the local rock station.

882 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:08am
883 vxbush  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:09am

Hey folks. Mostly offline today, doing some monotonous work in the office. I'll try to stay up to date today, but that will probably nie on to impossible.

884 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:10am

re: #876 WriterMom

Hell. Wouldn't you consider it to be Hell? To have to reiterate, convincingly, something from your 20's as if it were fresh and topical forty years later?

Sounds like academia to me.

That RULED!
/multiple *dings* in invisible karma

885 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:11am

re: #843 Occasional Reader

Outdoorsy? Nah, buzzsaw's just a la-z-boy.

(That pun may not translate...)

Hello {OR}

Good to see you and I think those drop bears need another viewing very soon :-)

My pun meter is a bit slow at 2.30am and after a Christmas party :-)

886 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:16am

re: #795 pingjockey
Shit. I'm very, very sorry to hear that my friend. Isn't there some way you can get something for each of 'em? Like maybe a gift card to a toy store for say
$25 each or something.
Damn.

887 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:45am

re: #882 buzzsawmonkey

Pencil pusher goes to the pen?

And is erased by the judge?

888 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:52am

re: #861 3 wood

DOW crawling back up to being only 47 points down.

Of course, it will plummet 150 when The Messiah starts running his mouth.

He's expected to elevate Larry Volker to some such title.

/one more on board, he's listening

889 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:57am

Come to think of it, I may just elaborate a Ph.D. thesis on the direct connection between the Treaty of Tordesillas, and the 2008 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.

890 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:13am

re: #869 Golem Akbar

Shell stations here in LA?

No, in America. Well...Arkansas, anyway. but I can see America from my house.

891 DisturbedEma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:23am

re: #872 Golem Akbar

WM! Boker tov, missy.

Boker Tov to you both and all!

Ma Shlo ma?

892 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:31am
893 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:41am

re: #878 Golem Akbar

Now wait just a goldurned minute. Pencil pushers can be dangerous, too, you know.

And is the girl facing charges for theft? Nooo. That is sexism at its worst!

///

894 nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:47am

re: #777 chicken kiev

648 Kenneth

No it isn't! Now you're making me feel really guilty, because I'm not going back to the hometown and the relatives.

Thanksgiving happens wherever the American is, and with whomever the American is spending it.

The real problem is that way too many Americans totally forget about the "thanking" part -- many don't even devote a minute of that day to remembering what they're thankful for, or for giving thanks. Right there amidst the bounty of friends, family, food, in the greatest country in the world, they just take it all for granted on Thanksgiving as they do the rest of the year.

That's what gets me. Every Thanksgiving repast should have a moment of silence for private thanks-giving, and/or going round the circle with everyone saying something they're thankful for.

That is why when I greet my family and friends I say "Happy Giving of Thanks Day" as a reminder
So... Happy Giving of Thanks Day everyone!

895 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:09am

re: #886 realwest

Shit. I'm very, very sorry to hear that my friend. Isn't there some way you can get something for each of 'em? Like maybe a gift card to a toy store for say
$25 each or something.
Damn.

If they like building models, Squadron is having a gift certificate sale. I buy most of my kits from there.

896 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:15am

re: #862 aussiemagpie

Hi, turn!

We do love this song :-)

And I'm sure we're older than you, why just today we finished filiing out our forms for our GT striped Corvette styled with mags and drink holders, walkers :-)

Cool, you gonna get shag carpet installed? BTW, what part of assuie are you in. Got a sister in law in Mudgie.

897 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:21am

re: #878 Golem Akbar

Damn.

My brother did that 35 years ago (egad) and just got swats.

It was another boy otherwise Dad would have doubled down.

898 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:29am

re: #887 Golem Akbar

And is erased by the judge?

Which lead to an investigation.

899 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:07am

re: #879 Spare O'Lake

I wonder if the Thugs of the Theocracy (aka Iran) have gotten to certain profs, or is the prof acting as a willing stooge for the Theocracy?

900 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:18am

re: #889 Occasional Reader

Dream on...

901 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:29am

re: #881 turn

I think the song is cute and funny, especially the part about sitting on the bench.

I frequently find an opportunity to drop the phrase "... and they all moved away from me, there on the Group W bench" into a conversation.

902 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:53am

re: #558 realwest

Good morning Mandy!
Uh, 64,067-63,231=836. ?!? What means this?

Click my nic.

bbiab

903 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:00am

re: #801 aussiemagpie
Click on the link provided by Occasional Reader!

904 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:51am

re: #802 Spare O'Lake
Thanksgiving is a "religious" holdiay in Canada? Really?!

905 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:02am

re: #891 DisturbedEma

Boker Tov to you both and all!

Ma Shlo ma?


Tov maod. Todah.
V'atah?

906 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:08am

re: #892 buzzsawmonkey

But its whole reason for being was the anti-draft message, so it seems more than a little dated now.

Hey, if moonbat protesters can chant "hell, no, we won't go, we wont' die for Texaco" today, why the hell not?

(I like telling them "actually, no one's asking you to 'go'. In fact, they don't even want you.")

907 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:11am

re: #889 Occasional Reader

I've always admired your penetrating intellect.

908 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:20am

re: #867 JammieWearingFool


Huffpo lunatics, ha!

909 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:35am

re: #889 Occasional Reader

Come to think of it, I may just elaborate a Ph.D. thesis on the direct connection between the Treaty of Tordesillas, and the 2008 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.

Great idea! May I steal it?

910 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:46:09am

re: #907 Kenneth

I've always admired your penetrating intellect.

Yes, his nibs is a fountain of inkformation.

911 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:46:15am

re: #895 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If they like building models, Squadron is having a gift certificate sale. I buy most of my kits from there.

Yeah, but you just do that to impress chicks.

912 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:46:31am

re: #860 buzzsawmonkey

Have you heard the 90's version "Massacree Revisited." Arlo updated the song following the death of President Nixon with some humorous observations and an account of his visit to the Carter inauguration.

913 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:46:45am

re: #795 pingjockey

Oh no-don't do that...are you handy? Is there something you can make? What about giving them a 'gift certificate' from you for a special date/one-on-one time? What about something else that doesn't cost a lot-like letting them have a special sleepover party with their favourite DVD movies and a few friends, or letting them invite their best friends to bake or make food to take to a children's hospital?

914 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:02am

re: #899 J.S.

Quite willing. Any university faculty you care to point at will have scads of Marxists, post-modernist cultural relativists and general all round America haters.

915 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:03am
916 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:06am

re: #898 Ford_Prefect

Which lead to an investigation.

Not in Chicago. Here the charge is simply made to disappear if you have enough clout.

917 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:09am

re: #909 rawmuse

Great idea! May I steal it?

Joe Biden? Is that you?

918 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:18am

re: #896 turn

Cool, you gonna get shag carpet installed? BTW, what part of assuie are you in. Got a sister in law in Mudgie.

I'm in Sydney, and I have a good friend in Mudgee - a lovely part of our state of NSW and a great wine growing area

Mudgee is about 3 hours west of Sydney, and we go there for wine tastings about twice a year and to see my friend :-)

As it's a small town, I'm sure your SIL would know my friend - if you like you can email me and I'll let you know her name :-)

She's been in the Mudgee /Gulgong area all her life

919 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:23am

re: #811 hermit
No such thing as a "Native American" - they came here from either Asia via the land bridge to Alaska or according to some, from Europe via Greenland. They are more properly referred to as the "First Americans."

920 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:35am

re: #898 Ford_Prefect

Which lead to an investigation.

Sounds like No. 2 to me.

921 vxbush  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:40am

re: #917 Occasional Reader

Joe Biden? Is that you?

Zing...

922 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:54am

re: #911 Occasional Reader

Yeah, but you just do that to impress chicks.

Heh. When I was a kid & told my Dad I wanted a model for Christmas, he'd say, "I want one too. Preferably a blonde."

923 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:56am

re: #868 realwest

HUH?! Then how come all the writers in the NY Post were talking about the Giants vs. the Jets?! Eli vs. Brett? Just this past Tuesday for cryin' out loud?!

That's just all the SB hype coming off the Jets dismembering the Titans. They've already got the Giants going there and figure now the Jets are the top team in the AFC, which they may well be.

I suspect the Patriots or Colts will be paying a visit here come January and that may throw a fly in the ointment.

I'm trying not to get too far ahead and lock it down for the Giants going there, but man, they've never looked better. I have a hunch the Cowboys may be the only roadblock, assuming they get it. We'll see. One game at a time. Win the division and get the top seed first. The schedule has been relentless the past five weeks and they still face the Skins, Eagle, Cowboys, Panthers and Vikings.

Fun stat of the day: They're the first team since the 1970 Vikings to beat winning teams five weeks straight.

924 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:23am

re: #907 Kenneth

Penetration!?

925 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:23am
926 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:31am

re: #904 realwest

Thanksgiving is a "religious" holdiay in Canada? Really?!


Oh dear, how far upthread {realwest}

I'm having a touch of Christmaspartyitis :-)

927 father_of_10  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:43am

re: #925 buzzsawmonkey

There is, however, such a thing as a "Naive American."

Hyderdal and his boats and rafts . . .

928 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:59am

re: #919 realwest

No such thing as a "Native American" - they came here from either Asia via the land bridge to Alaska or according to some, from Europe via Greenland. They are more properly referred to as the "First Americans."

And so the textbook companies will be Thankful tomorrow for EDIT/REPLACE, huh? Instant PC adjustments - just click and print!

929 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:04am

Does anyone know how long the Tree in Rockefeller Center will be up? My Mom & I always go to NY before Christmas, but this year we may have to postpone until after Christmas.

930 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:18am

re: #915 buzzsawmonkey

No, missed that one. Maybe I will spelunk YouTube.

Caving in to peer pressure?

931 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:21am

re: #919 realwest

No such thing as a "Native American" - they came here from either Asia via the land bridge to Alaska or according to some, from Europe via Greenland. They are more properly referred to as the "First Americans."

Correct me if I'm wrong, Canucks, but I believe in Canuckistan the politically correct term is "First Nations", correct?

Which always struck me as sounding a little... hmm... chauvinistic?

932 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:23am

re: #923 JammieWearingFool

That's just all the SB hype coming off the Jets dismembering the Titans. They've already got the Giants going there and figure now the Jets are the top team in the AFC, which they may well be.

I suspect the Patriots or Colts will be paying a visit here come January and that may throw a fly in the ointment.

I'm trying not to get too far ahead and lock it down for the Giants going there, but man, they've never looked better. I have a hunch the Cowboys may be the only roadblock, assuming they get it. We'll see. One game at a time. Win the division and get the top seed first. The schedule has been relentless the past five weeks and they still face the Skins, Eagle, Cowboys, Panthers and Vikings.

Fun stat of the day: They're the first team since the 1970 Vikings to beat winning teams five weeks straight.

I'm pulling for them. After Bears get eliminated in the playoffs, I hope to be able to root for the Giants in the Superbowl. I wish the Bears could get there, but this won't be the year.

933 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:48am
934 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:02am

re: #919 realwest

No such thing as a "Native American" - they came here from either Asia via the land bridge to Alaska or according to some, from Europe via Greenland. They are more properly referred to as the "First Americans."

Who quickly get banned when they shout "First!"

935 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:03am

re: #892 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, the song recalls my long-faded and misspent youth, and there is a certain resultant glow. But its whole reason for being was the anti-draft message, so it seems more than a little dated now.

You know Buz, come to think about it that is really why I enjoy listening to it. I always reflect back to the high school days (emphasis on high) when my buddies and I would gather around the record player to listen to it.

936 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:40am

re: #856 Killian Bundy

Wow, before you fork over $799 to Circuit Cit for your new Samsung "52 TV, make sure you have room for it for it is a big mother[expletive deleted].

/don't worry about the warranty, Samsung will bug the [expletive deleted] out of you to get it

Here's a guide for the best deals for Black Friday on tvs. Worth checking out before forking over serious money for any tv. Also, keep in mind that if Circuit City goes belly up, they might push even better deals to sell inventory next year, and if you wait until January, you might get deals leading up to Super Bowl.

937 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:44am

re: #931 Occasional Reader

"First Nations" or Aboriginal...the "first" schtick is more popular because it has the extra added linguistic zing of making everyone else post-facto colonialist, yucky meanies.

938 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:54am

re: #920 Golem Akbar

Sounds like No. 2 to me.

That's bic-ause it made the judge cross.

939 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:00am

re: #914 Kenneth

Yes, but (the non-Iranian university variety) are typically atheists...of the radical stripe...so having a religious fruit-cake shilling for a Theocracy doesn't sound all that (shall we say) "post-modern"...(then again, I suppose, the academics -- in their PC brilliance -- are always willing to make exceptions for any Religious Thugs of Islamism).

940 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:01am
941 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:10am

Later folks. Family is up and there are chores to do.

942 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:14am

re: #814 JammieWearingFoolNope, I never thought I'd see the day when the Giant's offense scored so much!
And the reason they don't run up scores on teams they could have done with ease is because the Giants' organization is a truly classy outfit.
Y'all will no doubt remember that we didn't crow anywhere NEAR as much as we could have after beating the unbeaten Patriots in the SuperBowl (where we were 12+1/2 point under dogs).
Come to think of it, all of the GREAT TEAMS and organizations I know of in Football History - e.g., the Green Bay Packers - have that kind of class - win, but don't rub your opponents nose in it.

943 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:32am

re: #935 turn

You know Buz, come to think about it that is really why I enjoy listening to it. I always reflect back to the high school days (emphasis on high) when my buddies and I would gather around the record player to listen to it.

Re-cord? I know not of what you speak.

944 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:33am

re: #931 Occasional Reader

Correct me if I'm wrong, Canucks, but I believe in Canuckistan the politically correct term is "First Nations", correct?

Which always struck me as sounding a little... hmm... chauvinistic?

Yeah, but won't "First" make everyone else's self-esteem shatter spontaneously!
/besides waking up Charles with the FIRST-Alert!

945 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:00am

re: #933 Iron Fist

Those damn doctors and their medicine. Giving people longer lifespans if fucking up one of the most beautiful Ponzi schemes ever devised.

And that's why we need Obamacare! Once we have nice, long waiting lists for life-saving medical procedures, Social Security will be back in the black in no time!

946 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:11am
947 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:18am

re: #901 Occasional Reader

I frequently find an opportunity to drop the phrase "... and they all moved away from me, there on the Group W bench" into a conversation.

I frequently use father rapers ...

/

948 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:34am

re: #943 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Re-cord? I know not of what you speak.

The period of analog history between wax discs and magnetic tape.

949 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:37am

re: #945 Occasional Reader

And that's why we need Obamacare! Once we have nice, long waiting lists for life-saving medical procedures, Social Security will be back in the black in no time!

RACIST!
/

950 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:53am

re: #933 Iron Fist

Social Security was always intended t be a rip-off. You retired at 62, but the average male lifespan was 58 (or thereabout). The average female lifespan was around 62. So the average social security recipient was supposed to be a little old widow woman with a few months to live.

Those damn doctors and their medicine. Giving people longer lifespans if fucking up one of the most beautiful Ponzi schemes ever devised.

You have a way wit' woids...

951 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:56am

re: #945 Occasional Reader

First of all, I thought that said "Obama-macrame", which really FREAKED ME OUT MAN.

Second-back in the black? RACIST.

952 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:09am

re: #936 lawhawk

Here's a guide for the best deals for Black Friday on tvs. Worth checking out before forking over serious money for any tv. Also, keep in mind that if Circuit City goes belly up, they might push even better deals to sell inventory next year, and if you wait until January, you might get deals leading up to Super Bowl.

Circuit City has already declared themselves bankrupt.

953 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:09am

The Need for Missile Defense


Despite Iran’s runaway nuclear program, North Korea’s atomic assistance to Syria, and robust ballistic missile production and testing by Russia and China, a missile defense system for protecting the homeland and U.S. interests overseas remains a controversial idea in some corners. It should not be. The security challenge arising from the proliferation of ballistic missiles and the dangerous payloads they might carry, including weapons of mass destruction (wmd) like nuclear arms, is a threat that — in fact — may be growing.

Obama's fantasy of a "world without nuclear weapons" is dangerously naive. Iran & North Korea are feverishly building nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them right now. Refusing to build a missile defense system out of concern it might be "destabilizing" is absurd. A world with nuclear armed rogue states and terrorists is the very definition of destabilizing.

RTWFT!

954 bosforus  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:35am

re: #824 realwest

Good morning! Yes, there was...the Sun came up and we all woke up on the right side of the grass!

Yes, but some of us woke up with colds and didn't get much sleep, though my cold can hardly be blamed for the countless times I was woken by my own drool. I might be taking a half day today.

955 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:42am

re: #952 razorbacker

Circuit City has already declared themselves bankrupt.

They didn't ask for a government bail-out?

956 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:01am

re: #949 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Dude! GMTA!

957 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:29am
958 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:29am

re: #955 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

They didn't ask for a government bail-out?

See how incompetent they were?

959 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:54am

re: #938 Ford_Prefect

That's bic-ause it made the judge cross.


And so, why did the judge cross the street?

960 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:56am

re: #954 bosforus

my cold can hardly be blamed for the countless times I was woken by my own drool

Thanks for sharing that with us-not!

961 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:56:31am

re: #836 Buck Absolutely.
It was just a misdirection play by the Obama campaign that worked - although SCOTUS - to my amazement, is apparently gonna review that stupid lawsuit!

962 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:56:42am

re: #959 Golem Akbar

And so, why did the judge cross the street?

I know I will regret this but...why did the judge cross the street?

963 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:01am

re: #863 Dark_Falcon

Federal employees who get to retire on full pensions after 20 years, that's what.


Me and my wife are Federal Employees -- what is your definition of a full pension? After 20 years I will get 20% of my "High Three" average, IF I paid for my military service to include in this.

964 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:21am

re: #953 Kenneth

The Need for Missile Defense


Obama's fantasy of a "world without nuclear weapons" is dangerously naive. Iran & North Korea are feverishly building nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them right now. Refusing to build a missile defense system out of concern it might be "destabilizing" is absurd. A world with nuclear armed rogue states and terrorists is the very definition of destabilizing.

RTWFT!

The unspoken reason why the usual suspects are opposed to missile defense is that they want nuclear proliferation as a deterrent to the U.S. They're much more frightened of a nuclear America that can act without fear of reprisal than a rouge state setting off a nuke in an American or Allied city.

965 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:24am

re: #957 Iron Fist

Obama is very modest about his support for infanticide.

Indeed, he should try to burnish his national defense credentials with this. "I will track down Osama bin Laden with the same ruthless determination I've shown toward 'surviving foetuses'". Something like that.

/very, very dark humor, sorry

966 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:38am

See y'all later.

Gonna go irritate the neighbors.

They'll be so thankful when I leave.

razorbacker, bringing the holidays home to everyone.

967 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:43am

re: #932 Dark_Falcon

I'm pulling for them. After Bears get eliminated in the playoffs, I hope to be able to root for the Giants in the Superbowl. I wish the Bears could get there, but this won't be the year.

The Bears really need to stabilize at QB at some point. I don't think Orton's the answer. I said it the last couple of years I thought McNabb was a good fit. If they don't get him, the Vikings will.

The Giants have David Carr as a backup and he'll probably come cheap. He's sitting there learning how to win and could be a steal. He's got experience but I think took such a beating with the Texans. Sitting for a year and watching how Eli goes about his business will really pay off for the next team that gives him a shot.

968 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:49am

re: #952 razorbacker

They were going to reorganize, which isn't the same as liquidation. Different parts of the bankruptcy code. If they can't get their act together, because of a bad sales season, they could switch from reorganization to liquidation.

969 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:57am

re: #839 3 wood
Well, I'm not figuring on kicking off soon, just going by the Oncologists' estimate, I'll STILL leave over $200K in SS when I die!

970 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:01am

re: #959 Golem Akbar

That's where he parkered his car.

971 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:13am

The SWAT team just showed up a couple blocks away and hauled off a suspect. Always makes for an enthralling view while walking the pooch.

972 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:27am

re: #962 Ford_Prefect

I know I will regret this but...why did the judge cross the street?


Ah, but I asked first!

973 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:48am

re: #936 lawhawk

Here's a guide for the best deals for Black Friday on tvs. Worth checking out before forking over serious money for any tv. Also, keep in mind that if Circuit City goes belly up, they might push even better deals to sell inventory next year, and if you wait until January, you might get deals leading up to Super Bowl.

I have all the TVs I need.

/all I'm saying is that bigger doesn't even necessarily fit your Irving room

974 bosforus  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:00am

re: #960 WriterMom

Thanks for sharing that with us-not!

I knew someone would appreciate that tidbit. ;)

975 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:03am

re: #962 Ford_Prefect

I know I will regret this but...why did the judge cross the street?


To yell at Mukasey?

976 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:04am

re: #967 JammieWearingFool

Matt Cassel is going to be the big name on the market next year. He's pulling a Brady (who did pretty much the same thing to Bledsoe). Bledsoe ended up in Buffalo...

977 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:14am

re: #918 aussiemagpie

I've been to Sydney and driven up the blue mountains to Mudgee (even though I misspelled it), and yes it is a cool little town. Great wine and the beer is really good. I took a liking to Tooee's New (sp?) I don't think it would be a good idea to put anybody local in touch with the sis in law, she is in the process of a messy divorce with a well known local. Very bad.

978 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:28am

re: #846 razorbacker
Ah, yes, TRADITION! LOL!

979 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:33am

re: #964 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The unspoken reason why the usual suspects are opposed to missile defense is that they want nuclear proliferation as a deterrent to the U.S. They're much more frightened of a nuclear America that can act without fear of reprisal than a rouge state setting off a nuke in an American or Allied city.

We want the usual suspects to be afraid of a nuclear America that can act without fear of reprisal. That's what has kept us safe from despots for 60+ years.

980 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:43am

re: #970 Who Watches the Watchmen?

That's where he parkered his car.


You make a fine point.

981 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:45am

re: #973 Killian Bundy

Fair enough. I wonder how some people are trying to buy new huge lcd tvs that can't even fit into their apartments, let alone their cars or SUVs...

982 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:16am

re: #964 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

than a rouge state

You shouldn't paint them all with the same broad brush. That really should make you blush. Nevertheless, keep your powder dry...

983 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:31am
984 nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:33am

re: #825 pingjockey
I hadn't had a chance to look yet. 40 may do it. It is still a bit grey and foggy here but light enough to put the flag out when I go to the office. I heard it was going to be really cold by Sunday. I am glad I am not traveling, most of my family is right here.

985 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:38am

re: #982 Occasional Reader

You shouldn't paint them all with the same broad brush. That really should make you blush. Nevertheless, keep your powder dry...

I always get them mixed up!

986 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:40am

?

987 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:44am

re: #835 Ford_Prefect

I got married about three and a half years ago and became a dad about two and a half years ago. I don't get to too many festivals anymore. One that I would love to get to is the Montreal Jazz fest. That is supposed to be great.

I hear you. I'm celebrating 5 years of marriage this weekend, and I've got a 15 month old as well. My Jazz fest days need to be put on hold for a few years until my son is a little older.

988 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:04am

Yay! Make-up thread!

989 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:18am

re: #981 lawhawk

Fair enough. I wonder how some people are trying to buy new huge lcd tvs that can't even fit into their apartments, let alone their cars or SUVs...


Some people just can't pass up a bargain.

990 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:20am

re: #971 rawmuse

The SWAT team just showed up a couple blocks away and hauled off a suspect. Always makes for an enthralling view while walking the pooch.

"Always"? Sheesh, what kind of neighborhood do you live in, rm? Ever think of moving?!

991 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:01am

re: #980 Golem Akbar

You make a fine point.

This thread is beginning to gel.

992 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:03am

re: #939 J.S.

Western post-Christian atheists are only opposed to Christianity & Judaism. Their nuanced minds are not bothered by the quaint religious notions of other cultures and give them wide allowance. After all, if the mullahs believe their Mahdi is hiding in a well, who are wee to snicker? After all Sarah Palin is the real religious fanatic and a dangerous idiot. So who are we to judge the Iranians?

At the same time, the wise academics understand the necessity of "social justice" for the "Palestinians" and why Iran "needs" nuclear weapons to help them "bargain" with the recalcitrant Zionist. It's the only way to achieve lasting "peace".

///

993 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:16am
994 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:18am

re: #860 buzzsawmonkey
Yep - but here's a "traditional" American song - as performed by him - that I think is GREAT!

Youtube Video
995 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:27am

re: #989 Golem Akbar

Some people just can't pass up a bargain.

Poverty is a fine deterrent...

996 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:51am

Anyone going camping this weekend?

997 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:03:19am

re: #988 WriterMom

Yay! Make-up thread!


Well, it looks nice, I guess...

998 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:03:49am

re: #993 buzzsawmonkey

Something you don't need or cannot use is never a bargain, no matter how cheap it is.

Which is why I don't shop at Sam's Club. I don't care if it is a good deal, what the hell am I going to do with 12 pounds of nutmeg?

999 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:03:49am

UCH. My lunch date just cancelled! Bummer!

1000 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:03am

re: #991 Ford_Prefect

This thread is beginning to gel.


We need to get a grip.

1001 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:03am

re: #992 Kenneth

Minus that sarc tag, sounds like you could become the new moderator for The Current! Well done, Kenneth...

1002 Pyrocles  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:05am

Ooh, maybe Brady will come here next! J.P. Losman for Tom Brady - straight up trade!? He could mentor Trent Edwards for a couple years... /dream

re: #976 lawhawk

Matt Cassel is going to be the big name on the market next year. He's pulling a Brady (who did pretty much the same thing to Bledsoe). Bledsoe ended up in Buffalo...

1003 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:25am
1004 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:32am

re: #999 WriterMom

UCH. My lunch date just cancelled! Bummer!

His loss, WriterMom.

1005 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:40am

re: #988 WriterMom

Yay! Make-up thread!

And now WriterMom will expect us to laud 'er for noticing this.

1006 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:47am

re: #990 Occasional Reader

"Always"? Sheesh, what kind of neighborhood do you live in, rm? Ever think of moving?!

My neighborhood is prominently featured in a new release movie just out. My house is in a couple of exterior scenes.

1007 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:48am

re: #943 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #946 buzzsawmonkey

Remember that funny shaped little plastic thing you could snap into a 45 and play it on a turntable? My buddies used that for a logo for his garage rock band. They named themselves Johnny Quest and became pretty popular here in Sac. They actually got a threatening letter from Hannah Babara (sp) telling them to cease and desist. Those were the good old days.

1008 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:51am

re: #982 Occasional Reader

You shouldn't paint them all with the same broad brush. That really should make you blush. Nevertheless, keep your powder dry...

I think Alaska is a rouge state when Sarah uses a little too much make-up.

1009 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:05:16am

re: #889 Occasional Reader
Uh, y'all need some research assistance I'm willing to work on the Victoria's Secret part of it for ya - for free, no less!

1010 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:05:41am

re: #987 kayawanee

I hear you. I'm celebrating 5 years of marriage this weekend, and I've got a 15 month old as well. My Jazz fest days need to be put on hold for a few years until my son is a little older.

I am hoping to take both of them to Tanglewood next year. They won't announce the lineup until next year. However, that is also the summer home of the Boston Pops Orchestra, so perhaps we will go and see them sometime. It's a great place. You just set up a blanket on the lawn, eat, drink and hang out until the music starts and then enjoy the beautiful music beneath the stars.

1011 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:05:41am

re: #964 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That is it exactly.

1012 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:05:54am

re: #1004 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

His loss, WriterMom.


If you were here, we could go to my favorite deli.

1013 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:05:54am

re: #981 lawhawk

Fair enough. I wonder how some people are trying to buy new huge lcd tvs that can't even fit into their apartments, let alone their cars or SUVs...

Free home delivery is not a problem.

/more TV than you can chew on, measure before you buy

1014 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:28am

re: #1007 turn

re: #946 buzzsawmonkey

Remember that funny shaped little plastic thing you could snap into a 45 and play it on a turntable?

The only 45s I know about don't get funny shaped plastic things snapped onto them.

1015 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:30am
1016 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:30am

re: #999 WriterMom

UCH. My lunch date just cancelled! Bummer!

Ill pick up the ball and take you out...does Sushi sound good? Spicy tuna hand rolls, california rolls and Japanese beer to wash it all down.

1017 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:31am

re: #1004 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You're sweet!

1018 bosforus  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:33am

West Jordan's departing City Manager, Greg Luebbers cashes in unused vacation days, sick leave, executive pay and other benefits for $360,000 as a result of the contract he himself negotiated before taking the job.

Greg Luebber's salary: $176,000 (among the highest paid municipal officials in the state)
Average salary of a West Jordan resident: $38,000

So basically, ten West Jordan residents worked for a year for this guy's "farewell gift" to himself.

1019 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:44am

re: #902 MandyManners
Sigh. Sorry Mandy I still don't get it!

1020 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:06am

re: #977 turn

I've been to Sydney and driven up the blue mountains to Mudgee (even though I misspelled it), and yes it is a cool little town. Great wine and the beer is really good. I took a liking to Tooee's New (sp?) I don't think it would be a good idea to put anybody local in touch with the sis in law, she is in the process of a messy divorce with a well known local. Very bad.

Sorry to hear about your SIL

Not good at all for her and I hope all works out for her

Toohey's New...yes it's a nice beer, but I'm a wine person so beer does not do much for me...except make me go to the loo countless times :-)

1021 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:07am

re: #942 realwest

Nope, I never thought I'd see the day when the Giant's offense scored so much!
And the reason they don't run up scores on teams they could have done with ease is because the Giants' organization is a truly classy outfit.
Y'all will no doubt remember that we didn't crow anywhere NEAR as much as we could have after beating the unbeaten Patriots in the SuperBowl (where we were 12+1/2 point under dogs).
Come to think of it, all of the GREAT TEAMS and organizations I know of in Football History - e.g., the Green Bay Packers - have that kind of class - win, but don't rub your opponents nose in it.

That's a reflection of Coughlin and ownership. They know well how the worm turns. Geez, a year ago everyone was ready to run Coughlin out of town. Now they have him heading to Canton. Nothing like winning 15 out of 16.

You have to give credit to how well-stocked Ernie Accorsi left the franchise and the new GM, Jerry Reese. Every draft pick made contributions last year and now the top two picks, Kenny Phillips and Terrell Thomas, are emerging in the secondary. Phillips is going to be a perennial Pro Bowler. How he last until the last pick of the first round is a mystery.

A few years ago they were decimated by injuries. Now a guy goes down and his backups step right in. Everyone figured when Umenyiora went down they were finished. Who even mentions his name now?

Speaking of Osi, if it weren't for that pre-season IR rule, he'd be ready to come back in a couple of weeks. How scary would that pass rush be?

1022 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:17am

re: #1016 Maximu§

Throw in some salmon and tuna sashimi and I'm yours!

1023 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:30am

re: #1000 Golem Akbar

We need to get a grip.

Oh come on. We are just getting sharpie.

1024 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:31am

re: #671 Kenneth

Hey real!

In Canada, Thanksgiving is in October (harvest time is earlier), but it's still a big family deal, and a big feast. Turkey is essential as is pumpkin pie for dessert. We don't go in for sweet potatoes with marshmallows or that weird green beans & onions dish. Excessive drinking and family brawls are not unknown amoung newfies.

1025 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:42am

re: #1015 buzzsawmonkey

Well, this time of year, you could use the 12 pounds of nutmeg to get into the eggnog business.

Bleech! My least-favored of all nogs.

1026 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:45am

re: #1012 Golem Akbar

Talk to me! Corned beef on rye with mustard? Kosher dills? Coleslaw?

1027 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:15am

re: #628 DeafDog

It's a celebration of Capitalism, IMO.

IMO it is a celebration of the family and friends. It is a day simply for giving thanks. To reflect on what is really important in life. Sure I like the football (but dallas and detroit EVERY year?) And I like turkey (anyone brings a side of tofurkey to my house and they must run through the gauntlet) and 'real' mashed spuds. plus the trimmings. But as I sit with my son, daughter-in-law, and grandson it is hard not to be thankful for all that I have. My children and grandchildren are healthy and content (much better than 'happy' imho)

1028 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:24am

re: #1014 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yes they do, they're called "trigger locks"

1029 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:39am

re: #1005 Occasional Reader

Heh. You forget I'm the super MAC-Daddy Mommy.

1030 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:41am
1031 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:45am

re: #1022 WriterMom

Throw in some salmon and tuna sashimi and I'm yours!

LOL, I'll even toss in some Saki to send us out the door with a buzz.

1032 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:47am

re: #1023 Ford_Prefect

Oh come on. We are just getting sharpie.


Yes, I can pentel.

1033 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:59am

re: #1028 turn

Touche! ;)

1034 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:03am

re: #1025 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What is nodrog back?

1035 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:32am

aussiemagpie, My son is going to Australia for a Semester starting in Feb. Brisbane, QUT. Any advice, other than watch out for snakes and spiders?

1036 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:39am

Attack by Muslim mobs on newly built St Mary and Anba Abraam church in Cairo

United Copts of Great Britain learned that an attack by more than 3000 Muslim extremists’ mob took place on yesterday 23/11/08. The attack has led to extensive damages to St Mary and Anba Abraam church, Ain Shams, Cairo. The building of the church which was consecrated the same day in the morning seems to have trigged massive hostility.

To download the attack video from Copts United

The radicalised mob could not stand the sight of the building which they called “infidels worship house in Islamic Land” shouting “No god but Allah” and “Allah Akbar” “we will demolish the church” Events escalated from bad to worse when the number of Muslim demonstrators swelled up reaching more than 3,000 people who gathered in front of the Virgin Mary and Anba Ibraam church.

Security forces tried to disperse the protesters but they could not meet the hostile crowd which came in large numbers from different areas. The crowed attacked the church, hurled stones and burned several cars owned by Christians, and causing the injury of more than 5 people. Worshipers and several priests were trapped inside the church unable to return home because of the hostile crowd outside.

Your tax dollars at work, because somehow the alternative would be worse.

1037 Silhouette  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:41am

re: #919 realwest

No such thing as a "Native American" - they came here from either Asia via the land bridge to Alaska or according to some, from Europe via Greenland. They are more properly referred to as the "First Americans."

Carrying that logic further, no one is native anywhere except Africa, because everyone migrates.

I'd say we pick a time, say 500 years, and after being somewhere that long, that people are "native".

1038 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:57am
1039 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:10:09am

re: #904 realwest

Thanksgiving is a "religious" holdiay in Canada? Really?!

As I understand it, Thanksgiving started in the USA as a religious holiday and has evolved into a secular holiday with very little if any religious significance.
In Canada, Thanksgiving was originally a strictly Protestant religious holiday. Later, it evolved so that Roman Catholics also celebrated it.
Today Thanksgiving in Canada is a national holiday but mostly it is Christians who celebrate it with the big family dinners, although this has possibly started to widen in scope to include some non-Christians too. My impression is that Thanksgiving in Canada has to a great extent lost most of its original religious significance.
Jews celebrate the festival of Succot which is their harvest festival. So for any Jews who do choose to celebrate Thanksgiving there is absolutely no religious significance.

1040 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:10:16am

re: #1032 Golem Akbar

Yes, I can pentel.

So far this has been the Hi-Liter of my day.

1041 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:10:34am

re: #1035 TaeJohnDo

aussiemagpie, My son is going to Australia for a Semester starting in Feb. Brisbane, QUT. Any advice, other than watch out for snakes and spiders?

I can't speak for magpie, but tell your son not to freak out when the toilet flushes in the opposite direction!

1042 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:00am

re: #1020 aussiemagpie

I'm hoping everything works out for her husband! She is off the rails and is trying to screw the guy over big time. Even the turnwife thinks she's gone nuts. I just hope she stays over there and doesn't move back to CA.

1043 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:32am

Woops - company is here! Gotta run y'all!
Hope you have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

1044 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:36am

re: #1026 WriterMom

Talk to me! Corned beef on rye with mustard? Kosher dills? Coleslaw?


Absolutely! Fresh-baked Russian Rye, sour dills, and mounds of corned beef stacked way too high. Dr. Brown's to wash it all down. Best deli in LA.

1045 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:44am

re: #1041 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can't speak for magpie, but tell your son not to freak out when the toilet flushes in the opposite direction!

Too tempting not to tell him ...

1046 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:45am

re: #982 Occasional Reader

You shouldn't paint them all with the same broad brush. That really should make you blush. Nevertheless, keep your powder dry...

LOL!

1047 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:49am

re: #1036 Ben Hur

General Maximu§ could fix that problem in 10 minutes, call in an airstrike on that crowd and send them straight to Hell.

1048 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:53am
1049 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:08am

re: #1010 Ford_Prefect

I am hoping to take both of them to Tanglewood next year. They won't announce the lineup until next year. However, that is also the summer home of the Boston Pops Orchestra, so perhaps we will go and see them sometime. It's a great place. You just set up a blanket on the lawn, eat, drink and hang out until the music starts and then enjoy the beautiful music beneath the stars.

Same with SPAC. It's an amphitheatre with an open back. The roofed area holds about 5000 and the lawn hold another 30,000 or so. Some areas are even shaded by trees, and you can still see the stage from there (really you need binoculars from there). I think the PNC Arts Center near where I live in NJ is like that as well.

1050 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:14am

re: #1036 Ben Hur

Attack by Muslim mobs on newly built St Mary and Anba Abraam church in Cairo


Your tax dollars at work, because somehow the alternative would be worse.

Who do they think they are? Prop 8 protesters?

1051 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:16am

re: #1038 buzzsawmonkey

I would love to see a TV show about a crusading solo practitioner, called "Cole's Law."

I've always loved the name "Justin Case"

1052 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:31am

re: #1035 TaeJohnDo

aussiemagpie, My son is going to Australia for a Semester starting in Feb. Brisbane, QUT. Any advice, other than watch out for snakes and spiders?


Don't tip!

1053 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:06am

There are still unsold spots for your Super Bowl ad.

1054 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:36am

Toronto cabbie charged after cyclist loses leg

A taxi driver accused in a bizarre altercation that cost a cyclist a leg has been charged with criminal negligence, Toronto police said yesterday. Sultan Ahmed, 38, faces a total of six charges, including assault with a weapon -- the taxi -- in the Nov. 14 incident near the city's downtown. Sgt. Tim Burrows said Toronto police have charged motorists with using a vehicle as a weapon on previous occasions. "Common? Yes and no," he said. "We had a very similar case in 1995. It's not unheard of." Surgeons removed the leg of a 36-year-old Toronto cyclist after the altercation. Witnesses reported hearing an argument and seeing a taxi speed away from the corner, where a man was prone on the sidewalk. A bicycle was nearby. Three hours later, a cabbie told police he had been robbed at that corner at that time. Sgt. Burrows said it's unclear if the cyclist will face any charges. Mr. Ahmed was scheduled to appear in court yesterday afternoon.

Apparently, the cabbie rammed the cyclist, crushing his leg so badly it had to be amputated.

1055 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:42am
1056 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:46am

re: #996 Maximu§

Anyone going camping this weekend?

BSA Fieldbook

WTF happened?

/I still have an original paper copy, two inches thick

1057 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:46am

maybe in the spirit of THE MOUSE THE ROARED we can get canukistan to invade Washington state. and maybe the Washington state moonbats can defect.BLAME CANADA

WE CAN COUNTER ATTACK AND TAKE ALBERTA and then consider it a fair trade

1058 Pyrocles  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:57am

Dhimmis have no right to build new houses of worship, or repair existing houses of worship under Sharia. No wonder the people were pissed. I'm surprised this church was built at all. Some Egyptian politician's head will roll...

re: #1036 Ben Hur

Attack by Muslim mobs on newly built St Mary and Anba Abraam church in Cairo

Your tax dollars at work, because somehow the alternative would be worse.

1059 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:59am

re: #1019 realwest

Sigh. Sorry Mandy I still don't get it!

Your count v. my count.

1060 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:14:02am

re: #1053 rawmuse

There are still unsold spots for your Super Bowl ad.

Maybe McCain's been saving up for that big Super Bowl ad which will really nail Obama!

1061 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:14:16am

re: #1052 turn

Don't tip!

He's an engineering student. It is in his blood not to. ///sss

Just kidding, engineers on the list. I'm married to one.

1062 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:14:18am

re: #805 3 wood

I was born in 1958 and have been paying into social security since I was 16.

I doubt that I will ever see a dime of it back.

I was also born in 58 and I've been paying in since I was 15 (yeah, I know - it was a youth employment thing)

Between social security and the current fluctuations in my IRA, I expect my kids will be supporting me! It will give them a tax deduction.

1063 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:14:58am
1064 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:09am

re: #931 Occasional Reader

Correct me if I'm wrong, Canucks, but I believe in Canuckistan the politically correct term is "First Nations", correct?
Which always struck me as sounding a little... hmm... chauvinistic?

We are living on their land.
They own the whole fucking country and are just biding their time before they finish milking us and then throw us all out.
Help./

1065 hermit  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:57am

re: #1057 yochanan

maybe in the spirit of THE MOUSE THE ROARED we can get canukistan to invade Washington state. and maybe the Washington state moonbats can defect.BLAME CANADA

WE CAN COUNTER ATTACK AND TAKE ALBERTA and then consider it a fair trade

Aaaah! They can have the mainland...just leave me this island! I like my island!

1066 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:13am

re: #1006 rawmuse

My neighborhood is prominently featured in a new release movie just out. My house is in a couple of exterior scenes.

A-ha! You live in Panama!

1067 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:24am

re: #1047 Maximu§

General Maximu§ could fix that problem in 10 minutes, call in an airstrike on that crowd and send them straight to Hell.

That would work if you used helos and miniguns. Bombs are too inaccurate, and a miss would kill people who are not involved in the riot.

1068 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:29am

re: #976 lawhawk

Matt Cassel is going to be the big name on the market next year. He's pulling a Brady (who did pretty much the same thing to Bledsoe). Bledsoe ended up in Buffalo...

I need to see more from him. Two good weeks isn't translating into a bonanza yet, though he's got a good shot at hitting the jackpot. Let's see how he does when Moss isn't single covered.

Funny though how he's the new darling and Matt Leinart is a backup.

1069 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:46am

re: #1049 kayawanee

Same with SPAC. It's an amphitheatre with an open back. The roofed area holds about 5000 and the lawn hold another 30,000 or so. Some areas are even shaded by trees, and you can still see the stage from there (really you need binoculars from there). I think the PNC Arts Center near where I live in NJ is like that as well.

Tanglewood has two stages now. From one you can see the stage from the grass, but not from the main music shed. That's OK though. Especially with the classical music I don't really care if I can see the performers or not. It really is amazing to see what some people bring to the shows. Some of them will set up tables and chairs and have candles and table linens and be all dressed up. Personally I am happy with a blanket, a book and a bucket of KFC.

1070 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:11am

re: #1057 yochanan

maybe in the spirit of THE MOUSE THE ROARED we can get canukistan to invade Washington state. and maybe the Washington state moonbats can defect.BLAME CANADA

WE CAN COUNTER ATTACK AND TAKE ALBERTA and then consider it a fair trade


The Mouse That Roared was one of the funniest movies, ever!

1071 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:16am

re: #1061 TaeJohnDo

He's an engineering student. It is in his blood not to. ///sss

Just kidding, engineers on the list. I'm married to one.

Hey, I resemble that!

1072 DaddyG  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:34am

re: #1056 Killian Bundy

BSA Fieldbook

WTF happened?

/I still have an original paper copy, two inches thick

That's the Fieldbook (outdoors/nature skills) not the Handbook (basic scout skills). I kind of like the fact that these things are on-line. The boys misplace their paper copies so often it is good to have a backup.

1073 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:38am

re: #1048 buzzsawmonkey

Thanksgiving is the central theme of the film "Avalon," which traces the fortunes of a Jewish immigrant family near Baltimore. It's kind of obvious that Thanksgiving is standing in for a Passover Seder, but it's still a worthwhile, and seasonal, movie.

Just don't carve the turkey before I get there!

1074 yochanan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:47am

re: #1044 Golem Akbar

Absolutely! Fresh-baked Russian Rye, sour dills, and mounds of corned beef stacked way too high. Dr. Brown's to wash it all down. Best deli in LA.

THE CONCEPT OF DELI AND L.A. DON'T MIX

1075 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:48am

re: #1036 Ben Hur

Attack by Muslim mobs on newly built St Mary and Anba Abraam church in Cairo


Your tax dollars at work, because somehow the alternative would be worse.

I'm not sure about the tax dollar statement. please clarify.

1076 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:04am

re: #1058 Pyrocles

Dhimmis have no right to build new houses of worship, or repair existing houses of worship under Sharia. No wonder the people were pissed. I'm surprised this church was built at all. Some Egyptian politician's head will roll...

No, it will be repaired under guard and reopened. The Egyptian government won't want to raise too big a stink. The Islamists will attack the congregation though, though their follow on attacks will likely be smaller scale.

1077 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:07am

re: #1075 Eowyn2

I'm not sure about the tax dollar statement. please clarify.

I think he means that Egypt is one of the biggest recipients of US foreign aid dollars.

1078 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:19am

re: #1064 Spare O'Lake

We are living on their land.
They own the whole fucking country and are just biding their time before they finish milking us and then throw us all out.
Help./

Even as a kid, I noticed that the prevailing P.C. narrative was, simultaneously, 1) the American Indians lived in this sort of collectivist paradise, and did not know or care about 'private property', and 2) we took "their land" away.

1079 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:55am

re: #1044 Golem Akbar

OY! Golem-it's not kosher :(

We'll have to make other lunch plans...

1080 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:05am

Gotta go for now.

1081 XMarine  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:06am

re: #7 descolada9

Yeah. I know that it was not the settlers but the germs that the settlers brought with them that caused the collapse of the Native American neolithic civilizations. Trust me, my own puritan background contains much Native American blood, which my grandmother was proud to point out.

1082 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:08am

re: #1013 Killian Bundy

Then there's the folks who must have the thing mounted to their wall, and forget to bother with installing them into the studs, so that within minutes of hanging, the thing comes crashing down in a mass of plaster, drywall, and electronic junk.

1083 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:29am

re: #1075 Eowyn2

I'm not sure about the tax dollar statement. please clarify.

We supply Egypt with massive amounts of foreign aid on the theory that if we did not Egypt would be even more hostile to the West in general and Israel in specific.

1084 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:41am

re: #1065 hermit

Aaaah! They can have the mainland...just leave me this island! I like my island!

Would prefer Saskatchewan to Alberta but we can take both.

1085 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:43am

re: #1074 yochanan

THE CONCEPT OF DELI AND L.A. DON'T MIX

Yes and no. There are a lot of Jewish delis in LA, most of them poor to...well...just outright lousy. Some are okay. My neighborhood deli just happens to be the best, and I would say it's as good as any in New York, except maybe Katz' deli, since that place is so unique. I think there are 3 or 4 good delis in LA, out of hundreds that are overpriced and underaverage.

1086 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:22:30am

re: #1077 rawmuse

I think he means that Egypt is one of the biggest recipients of US foreign aid dollars.

thats what I figured. mostly because they are "moderate" Muslims, correct?

1087 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:22:36am

re: #1063 Iron Fist

Yeah, that shit troubles me greatly. He never quite says unilateral nuclear disarmament, but he certainly implies that he thinks it's a good idea.

All by itself, that is a blow to the nuclear deterrant that we have carefully developed over the course of time since the end of WWII. If we'd consider unilateral disarmament, one has to wonder if we'd use our weapons under any circumstance. Deterrance will not work unless the other side believes that you will use your weapons.

Bluntly, we let 3000 civilians perish on 9-11 and did not respond with even limited nuclear strikes. The death toll could have been much higher. Would we have used nuclear weapons even then? I doubt it. I seriously doubt it. So what function does our nuclear deterrant provide? Does anyone doubt that if al Qaeda obtained a nuclear weapon they would use it?

Our reluctance to use nuclear weapons in the gravest of circumstances calls into question the utility of maintaining that nuclear arsenal. In a post-9-11 world who would we use it on and what would be extreme enough for us to actually use it?

~clapping~ Yes, we should have leveled Afghanistan, Northern Pakistan and eliminated Iran's nuclear facilities and than threatened the Saudi's with the same unless they changed their tune and joined the human race.

This war would have been long over.

1088 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:23:04am

HLIC has awoken --->

1089 turn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:23:24am

new thread

1090 Kenneth  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:03am

Assignment Afghanistan: Haji Beach

Great website, with photos, videos and good reporting from Afghanistan.

1091 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:04am

re: #1067 Dark_Falcon

That would work if you used helos and miniguns. Bombs are too inaccurate, and a miss would kill people who are not involved in the riot.

Oh, your so right, perhaps 1/2 a dozen AC-130 Gunships?

1092 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:06am

re: #1079 WriterMom

OY! Golem-it's not kosher :(

We'll have to make other lunch plans...


Yes, it's not.
There are some good (well, decent, at least) and Kosher delis here in the Valley. And one gourmet place I have in mind that you would really like.

1093 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:25:17am

re: #1092 Golem Akbar

Nice! And I love the idea of lounging!

1094 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:26:05am

The omelets were a smash success! Now The Kid wants me to make them EVERY morning. Yah. Right.

He has a dental appointment and then we're going to the park and maybe shopping so I'll catch you guys later today.

"Kids, this-piece-of-paper's-got-47-words-37-sentences-58-words-we-wanna-know-details-of-the-crime-time-of-the-crime-and-any-other-kind-of-thing-you-gotta-say-pertaining-to-and-about-the-crime-I-want-to-know-arresting-officer's-name-and-any-other-kind-of-thing-you-gotta-say",

1095 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:26:14am

re: #1093 WriterMom

Nice! And I love the idea of lounging!


Now that I know (kosher only)...
good on ya.

1096 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:26:37am

re: #1069 Ford_Prefect

Tanglewood has two stages now. From one you can see the stage from the grass, but not from the main music shed. That's OK though. Especially with the classical music I don't really care if I can see the performers or not. It really is amazing to see what some people bring to the shows. Some of them will set up tables and chairs and have candles and table linens and be all dressed up. Personally I am happy with a blanket, a book and a bucket of KFC.

Hah! That's great! There's an arboretum on Long Island, NY where they have concerts. It's called "Planting Fields", and has just a small area for about 2500 people or so. It's great, you can bring pretty much anything you want in. Seven course dinner? No problem. People usually set up a blanket with wine, cheese, fruit, etc., and they have a great time. Last time I was there, I saw the jazz banjoist (yes you heard right), Béla Fleck. He was awesome. I highly suggest catching his act if you can.

1097 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:19am

re: #1072 DaddyG

That's the Fieldbook (outdoors/nature skills) not the Handbook (basic scout skills). I kind of like the fact that these things are on-line. The boys misplace their paper copies so often it is good to have a backup.

I understand that.

/Life Scout, 28 merit badges, gave up out of age and frustration when they changed the rules midstream, OA, sash stolen by a college sorority

1098 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:39am

re: #1078 Occasional Reader

Even as a kid, I noticed that the prevailing P.C. narrative was, simultaneously, 1) the American Indians lived in this sort of collectivist paradise, and did not know or care about 'private property', and 2) we took "their land" away.


I read "Undaunted Courage" -- Lewis has some interesting observations about the various tribes he encountered.

And I remember reading about an archeology find in NM or S Colo that involved human bones, cannibalism and a dump in a Kiva to make a point to the tribe members who were eaten.

And the name of the Sioux meant snake -- and it wasn't a compliment.

1099 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:59am

re: #1091 Maximu§

Oh, your so right, perhaps 1/2 a dozen AC-130 Gunships?

That would work if they leave out the 105mm howitzers. But I think that 40mm Bofors Guns, 25mm Chain Guns, and some miniguns could do the job just fine.

1100 Ben Hur  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:28:02am

re: #1075 Eowyn2

I'm not sure about the tax dollar statement. please clarify.

The US Government gives 3 Billion dollars + annually to Egypt so they can keep their declared "State of Emergency" instilled after Sadat was assassinated.

I believe this also includeds wheat, because the superior Egyptians can't feed their own people.

This is unlike the 3 Billion dollars of LOAN GUARENTEES given to Israe (Israel is not in debt to anyone because they have never defaulted on said loans - they don't need Bono's "debt relief.")

This allows the totalitarian Egyptian regime to oppress there own people and control everything.

The arguement is that we must prop up the Mubarak regime as a buffer against the alternative - the Muslim Brotherhood.

I think it's all BS and we should promote Freedom of Speech, Worship and Democracy in Egypt and if the Muslim Brotherhood assumes power, deal with them accordingly.

1101 Eowyn2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:29:01am

re: #1076 Dark_Falcon

No, it will be repaired under guard and reopened. The Egyptian government won't want to raise too big a stink. The Islamists will attack the congregation though, though their follow on attacks will likely be smaller scale.

Oh, c'mon, the acid throwing and raping is just, well, one of those, muslims will be muslims things.

1102 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:29:02am
1103 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:29:19am

re: #1035 TaeJohnDo

aussiemagpie, My son is going to Australia for a Semester starting in Feb. Brisbane, QUT. Any advice, other than watch out for snakes and spiders?

Hi there!

LOL! We're not completely overrun with spiders and snakes :-)

Best wishes for your son, and I'm sure he'll love his time there at QUT

My son lives south of Brisbane on the Gold Coast (about 80kms from Brissie) - if your son needs a contact here I would be happy to help

I visit there regularly - if you would like your son to meet a lizard, you're welcome to email me

1104 XMarine  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:30:13am

re: #1057 yochanan

Take ALBERTA!? But that is one of the two greatest nations in North America, the United States being the other.

1105 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:31:37am

re: #1096 kayawanee

Hah! That's great! There's an arboretum on Long Island, NY where they have concerts. It's called "Planting Fields", and has just a small area for about 2500 people or so. It's great, you can bring pretty much anything you want in. Seven course dinner? No problem. People usually set up a blanket with wine, cheese, fruit, etc., and they have a great time. Last time I was there, I saw the jazz banjoist (yes you heard right), Béla Fleck. He was awesome. I highly suggest catching his act if you can.

I saw him many years ago and you are right, he's great. I am currently listening to a station that I created at pandora.com that was based on Charles suggestion of Don Ross. Very soothing.

1106 WriterMom  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:32:33am

re: #1095 Golem Akbar

Kosher or vegetarian/dairy.

1107 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:33:28am

re: #1041 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I can't speak for magpie, but tell your son not to freak out when the toilet flushes in the opposite direction!

LOL! On my first visit to the northern hemisphere, I was fascinated by this :-)

I had to be dragged out of the loo - it was better than TV really, watching the water go the wrong way

Like driving on the wrong side...like being in an alien world :-)

1108 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:36:01am

re: #1042 turn

I'm hoping everything works out for her husband! She is off the rails and is trying to screw the guy over big time. Even the turnwife thinks she's gone nuts. I just hope she stays over there and doesn't move back to CA.

Oh dear, sounds bad and I'm sure you're very happy this is happening so far away!

1109 Golem Akbar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:36:52am

re: #1106 WriterMom

Kosher or vegetarian/dairy.

My kinda gal.

1110 kayawanee  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:36:54am

re: #1105 Ford_Prefect

I saw him many years ago and you are right, he's great. I am currently listening to a station that I created at pandora.com that was based on Charles suggestion of Don Ross. Very soothing.

I'll have to check him out. I had to give up Pandora though. It kept crashing my computer at work. Even blue screened once.

Anyway, good chatting with you. I gotta split for a few minutes. If I see you on another thread, great. If not, then a Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

1111 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:38:43am

re: #1110 kayawanee

I'll have to check him out. I had to give up Pandora though. It kept crashing my computer at work. Even blue screened once.

Anyway, good chatting with you. I gotta split for a few minutes. If I see you on another thread, great. If not, then a Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

The same to you and yours.

1112 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:39:25am

re: #1103 aussiemagpie

Hi there!

LOL! We're not completely overrun with spiders and snakes :-)

Best wishes for your son, and I'm sure he'll love his time there at QUT

My son lives south of Brisbane on the Gold Coast (about 80kms from Brissie) - if your son needs a contact here I would be happy to help

I visit there regularly - if you would like your son to meet a lizard, you're welcome to email me

Thank you. I will pass this on to him.

1113 aussiemagpie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:11am

re: #1112 TaeJohnDo

Thank you. I will pass this on to him.

It's a pleasure - I've met the son of an LGFer, who stayed with me, and in September, my son and his GF were hosted at their homes by two wonderful people who I met here...this is one of the great things in this LGF network

Just let me know, and I'd be happy to meet him to say hello when I'm in Queensland

My nic is always blue for emailing, and {realwest} also has my email address

1114 TaeJohnDo  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:58am

re: #1113 aussiemagpie

It's a pleasure - I've met the son of an LGFer, who stayed with me, and in September, my son and his GF were hosted at their homes by two wonderful people who I met here...this is one of the great things in this LGF network

Just let me know, and I'd be happy to meet him to say hello when I'm in Queensland

My nic is always blue for emailing, and {realwest} also has my email address

As big as the world is, good places and people make anywhere feel like home.

1115 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:19:32am
1116 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:16:51am

Anyone still out here?!


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