poor India

Seems rather out of place to lead with a Xmas commercial before terrorist attack but ......?

Taj, 100 year old piece of Indian heritage is burning.

Taj hotel is really burning.

This hotel is 100 years old.

Global War on Terror seems like appropriate terminology to me.

Damn...splodeydopes in action. Region of "Peace", my ass.

Massive explosion at Taj Hotel...

I really hate these animals, they need to be dealt with harshly and NOW!

Police and Army fighting the terrorists in the Taj.

re: #3 IslandLibertarian

NO I think its just a hotel called Haj.

re: #11 WrathofG-d

NO I think its just a hotel called Taj.

l they won't even go blow up an empty field like Israel.

the link to NDTV off of Fox website has best footage -- Taj hotel is toast -- fire spreading very very quickly -- lots of weapons fire

I'd heard 3 MP's , 100+ tourists trapped in Taj

People going apeshit in Bombay, and people going apeshit in Bangkok.

Good Lord. Those poor people.

Too awful. Too much for me to take.

re: #12 WrathofG-d

100 years old as reported on NDTV.

Absolutely sickening.

100 people rescued from Taj

fucking dramatic ---

re: #15 Shug

I'd heard 3 MP's , 100+ tourists trapped in Taj

Baruch HaShem- I am horrified. . .

re: #9 VegasRick

I really hate these animals, they need to be dealt with harshly and NOW!

As if we needed any more proof? We here all know this. I just hope the rest of this country and much of the world wakes up one of these days. The Indians have tended to be on our side, they did not really need the lesson, but that is probably why they were targeted.

re: #14 sadhu

This is bad.

NDTV

re: #11 WrathofG-d

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

look at the wall/barrier in the background about 40 seconds in. Does that say "Sunni" or is it part of a larger word (or an Indian word with the same letters?)

I sense that these aren't going to be 'Hindu separatists' perpetrating these attacks.

. 'Fifth floor of the Taj is on fire.'
//IBN

.The hotel appears to be fully involved.
This does not bode well.

Where are the fire guys? They could always use the hoses on the terrorists as they fight the fire.

question is with this be the straw that breaks the camels back

they are screwing with Indias life blood, its financial sector and its western tourism.

This is going to have major repercussions

Despite unpopular belief, the terrorists have proven that racial profiling can succeed.

re: #24 Nevergiveup

As if we needed any more proof? We here all know this. I just hope the rest of this country and much of the world wakes up one of these days. The Indians have tended to be on our side, they did not really need the lesson, but that is probably why they were targeted.

They will not submit to the monsters, they will fight back.

Great scott, this is awful.

re: #8 Charles

They are trowing grenades off the roof.

It's pretty weird watching the cricket and polo news scrolling at the bottom of the screen on NDTV.

Fire trucks moving in now.

re: #35 Killgore Trout

They are trowing grenades off the roof.

I hope the police throw the terrorist off the roof.
btw/are we related? trowing?

BBL

Fire engines just arrived! Got the go from the cops.

The terrorists seem to be separating the Brits and the Americans from the other people and holding them hostage on the roof. 35 prisoners so far on the roof. According to Fox.

It's a landmark heritage site, and it's a structure made of wood...thus it's burning rapidly...built in 1900...

re: #35 Killgore Trout

They are trowing grenades off the roof.

While the fire advances on them?

Forgive me, but I really hope they die in agony.

I thought that all evil in the world such as this was supposed to end with the election of Dear Leader; The One.

Just heard on the radio - dozens dead by "unidentified gunmen"

maybe congress can bail them out if they promise to stop killing infidels...or whatever the MSM refuses to say is actually going on. Guess the sleepers woke up after the Bali executions.......and are taking jihad into their own hands while they still can become martyres

re: #30 Crimsonfisted

Where are the fire guys? They could always use the hoses on the terrorists as they fight the fire.

Water hoses against grenades being chucked from the roof?
Firefighters don't come with body armor, just bunker gear.

re: #12 WrathofG-d

Yes but apparently a classic, landmark hotel.

Imagine, 95% of the country is probably asleep.
What a shock they will have when they wake up

re: #38 VegasRick

I hope the police throw the terrorist off the roof.
btw/are we related? trowing?

BBL

hmmm, that make tree of us

re: #33 VegasRick

They will not submit to the monsters, they will fight back.

Which of course could get very dangerous very fast if Pakistan is shown to be even a tad involved ( which is very possible with their support of Muslim terrorist and kashmer separatists ) and then 2 nuclear powers could be facing off.

re: #40 bellamags

The terrorists seem to be separating the Brits and the Americans from the other people and holding them hostage on the roof. 35 prisoners so far on the roof. According to Fox.

Oh, how horrible. . .

re: #9 VegasRick

I really hate these animals, they need to be dealt with harshly and NOW!

The prevailing policy seems to be to deal with them proportionately. That will not work. Any response needs to be completely out of proportion.

But those days are gone. These events will be treated as criminal occurrences, not acts of war.

i hope the Israelis trained their hostage rescue teams well.

re: #44 Teacake!

Just heard on the radio - dozens dead by "unidentified gunmen"

Yeah, right

Just in time for Obama to invade Pakistan.

What will the Zero have to say about this? If he doesnt come down HARD on these creeps from the Office of the President-elect, it will mean a VERY long 4 years.

re: #53 pegcity

i hope the Israelis trained their hostage rescue teams well.

They did they do

Portions of the burning hotel are now breaking off and falling...fire engines are standing by...

Deccan Mujahideen claims responsibility for the attacks.

Fire Engines now on site.
Talk about life and death work.

Cama hospital was also attacked...looking for more info but I thought I heard on CNN it was women's and children's hospital, possibly thousands of beds (in Mumbai, wouldn't doubt it). Several staff killed, hostages taken. Hospital surrounded by Indian forces.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Deccan Mujahideen claims responsibility for the attacks.

spit

Dayan Emes. . .

at about the :35 mark, I thought I heard some high plains jibberish saying "taliban...taliban"

re: #56 Wishing

What will the Zero have to say about this? If he doesnt come down HARD on these creeps from the Office of the President-elect, it will mean a VERY long 4 years.

Well he has to be careful. We have one President and only one President. If Obama is smart he will keep his mouth shut and follow THE President's lead on this one.

re: #50 Nevergiveup

Which of course could get very dangerous very fast if Pakistan is shown to be even a tad involved ( which is very possible with their support of Muslim terrorist and kashmer separatists ) and then 2 nuclear powers could be facing off.

Damn near happened a couple or so years ago. India and Pakistan were definitely on the brink.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

"We can hear people screaming now... from inside"

Good lord.

re: #61 transient

Cama hospital was also attacked...looking for more info but I thought I heard on CNN it was women's and children's hospital, possibly thousands of beds (in Mumbai, wouldn't doubt it). Several staff killed, hostages taken. Hospital surrounded by Indian forces.

[deleted] !

re: #61 transient

Cama hospital was also attacked...looking for more info but I thought I heard on CNN it was women's and children's hospital, possibly thousands of beds (in Mumbai, wouldn't doubt it). Several staff killed, hostages taken. Hospital surrounded by Indian forces.

The horror continues

India is a nuclear power.

ROP! Religion Of Pieces -- after all that is what is left of anything precious or beautiful after those barbarians finish with it.

Corner of Taj in flames - huge black billows of smoke come out the back of the hotel.

re: #46 jcm

Water hoses against grenades being chucked from the roof?
Firefighters don't come with body armor, just bunker gear.

Posted before I picked up on that news. Yes, too dangerous with grenades raining down.

IBN still reporting 100 tourists "stuck" in Taj Hotel.

re: #66 WitchDoctor

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

"We can hear people screaming now... from inside"

Good lord.

Speechless

Fire hoses spraying the flames now

re: #31 pegcity

question is with this be the straw that breaks the camels back

they are screwing with Indias life blood, its financial sector and its western tourism.

This is going to have major repercussions

The Jihadis "screwed" with the US financial sector and just got a bunch of L³s to blame the US for anything we did in reaction.

Now we have another "hot spot" to be concerned about as terrorism ramps up the slaughter of innocents.

re: #35 Killgore Trout

They are trowing grenades off the roof.

Wonderful people.

Pakistan is gonna be on the hot seat for a while. I hope we have several Reapers up in their airspace right now. Fry some "militants" while the world's attention is diverted elsewhere.

They are monsters these terrorists!

They have fire hoses on the fire now.

Finally, the fire is being put out -- water jets going..

re: #73 snowcrash

IBN still reporting 100 tourists "stuck" in Taj Hotel.

The seperated ones? British and U.S.? Or terrorists?

Er, Water hoses

Thye Taj is to India what the twin towers were for us?

re: #36 Ay, Caramba

It's pretty weird watching the cricket and polo news scrolling at the bottom of the screen on NDTV.

Crickett is practically a religion in India.

wow, that fire hose did some good!

re: #81 DisturbedEma

The seperated ones? British and U.S.? Or terrorists?

Hoping the terrorists are corpses.

re: #84 astronmr20

Crickett is practically a religion in India.

A civilized sport according to some

I have customers in Mumbai. I know it's silly, because Mumbai is huge, but I can't help worrying about them.

After 9/11, we received hundreds of calls and e-mails from customers worrying about us. Thank God, we could tell them we were all alive and well.

There's nothing keeping nukes from flying anymore.

In the past, the Indo and Pak sides of the great Indo-Pak dispute were worried that America would pull all its trade out of the former or wipe out the latter, respectively. But America is weaker now and has just voted for the "!no más!" candidate. Whether Obama is actually as weak as people think he is, isn't important; it's the pro-weakness vote our friends and enemies are looking at, as a gauge to our resolve.

A major hotel, a major hospital ...

These are very large an coordinated attacks.

Frightening.

As much as I don't like Obama, and as much as I make fun of his calling for Pakistan to be invaded, I guess we have to credit him for his National Security Advisor appointment today:

James Jones

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

A retired Marine general and former Nato commander is emerging as a leading contender to become Barack Obama’s national security adviser, the most important foreign policy post in the White House.

James Jones, a decorated Vietnam veteran and former Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, is admired by Republicans and Democrats - he is a close friend of John McCain – and would bring particular expertise on Iraq and Afghanistan, two of Mr Obama’s overseas priorities when he takes office on January 20.

No final decision has been made on the post, but the serious consideration being given to General Jones reflects the President-elect’s determination to put together a bipartisan team of strong characters and former rivals. General Jones is also close to Hillary Clinton, and yet enjoys such cross-party appeal that in 2006 he was twice asked by Condoleezza Rice, President Bush’s Secretary of State, to be her deputy.

re: #83 Wishing

Thye Taj is to India what the twin towers were for us?

Maybe more, after 100 years. Many memories I am sure for many people, Indians and non-Indians alike. The news guy was mentioning all the celebrities and dignitaries that have stayed there.

re: #81 DisturbedEma
Unclear.Just a scroll across IBNLive streaming. Does the word "stuck" imply trapped by fire?

re: #8 Charles

charles can you put up a indian flag TODAY LIZARDS ARE INDIAN

[Link: www.mapsofindia.com...]

re: #15 Shug

I'd heard 3 MP's , 100+ tourists trapped in Taj

terrorist suti

These Jihadis remind me in a sense of sharks. They are less looking for a fight than they want capitulation & submission. Measured responses & negotiations are viewed as weakness.
The most respected Infidels historically in Islam are El Cid, Richard Lionheart & Charles Martel. All three kicked their asses.
It sounds bad, but we have to get really ruthless.

I'm reading a lot of conflicting reports. Can anyone sort it out - are there hostages? Or not?

re: #8 Charles

Massive explosion at Taj Hotel...

I'm watching live on NDTV and did not hear nor saw a massive explosion

re: #23 DisturbedEma

Baruch HaShem- I am horrified. . .

Baruch dajan ha emeth would be the correct phrase,
one says Baruch Ha Shem for something good

re: #96 Dianna

I'm reading a lot of conflicting reports. Can anyone sort it out - are there hostages? Or not?

Yes appears to be

re: #42 Dianna

While the fire advances on them?

Forgive me, but I really hope they die in agony.

Reports are confusing - but don't they have some British and American hostages up there with them?

re: #90 Pastorius

James Jones has a checkered record (with respect to Israel...he wrote one hell of a crazy report once upon a time...)

Very good live feed on Foxnews.com

re: #88 Catttt

I have customers in Mumbai. I know it's silly, because Mumbai is huge, but I can't help worrying about them.

It's not silly. Even if your customers are not in danger, they may have friends or family who work in those locations, who are in the army, in the hospital, or in the fire brigades, about whom they are worried.

re: #61 transient

Cama hospital was also attacked...looking for more info but I thought I heard on CNN it was women's and children's hospital, possibly thousands of beds (in Mumbai, wouldn't doubt it). Several staff killed, hostages taken. Hospital surrounded by Indian forces.

I saw a hospital had been attacked but no further news.
Kali will be unleashed by this.
Pandora with six arms.

re: #64 Nevergiveup

Well he has to be careful. We have one President and only one President. If Obama is smart he will keep his mouth shut and follow THE President's lead on this one.

Obama and smart just don't go together.....

Picture of the Taj.

re: #102 Flying Dutchman

Very good live feed on Foxnews.com

It crashes every time I try to open it. Crashes LGF, too. IE7 suckitude, I guess.

re: #97 Flying Dutchman

the Indian news network interviewed eye witnesses (one of whom reported hearing three blasts...) that was early-on...

re: #96 Dianna

Yes, There are hostages at two hotels and a hospital.

Can you imagine what if this was happening in New York right now? Los Angeles? Chicago?

re: #96 Dianna

I'm reading a lot of conflicting reports. Can anyone sort it out - are there hostages? Or not?

There were, confirmed, with still being a very strong probability. Chaos will be the rule for many hours so I don't expect concrete news for quite some time.

re: #99 Nevergiveup

Yes appears to be

Damn. Very bad, that.

#101 J.S.

James Jones has a checkered record (with respect to Israel...he wrote one hell of a crazy report once upon a time...)

Hmm, I'll check that out.

Pastorius, do a look up on "Nagl", suspect he's going to have a lot of input into the future of the Afghanistan campaign.

re: #93 yochanan

charles can you put up a indian flag TODAY LIZARDS ARE INDIAN

[Link: www.mapsofindia.com...]

India is also the largest democracy in the world. I can't believe they kept a lid on things back in December 2001.

AQ types want a war between Pakistan and India.It will KILL a lot of people.
that is their mission

re: #96 Dianna

I'm reading a lot of conflicting reports. Can anyone sort it out - are there hostages? Or not?

Believe there are hostages at the Oberoi hotel and Cama hospital. Haven't heard reports of hostages at the Taj.

re: #100 reine.de.tout

Reports are confusing - but don't they have some British and American hostages up there with them?

If they do, forgive me, but it's more important to kill the terrorists. I hope the hostages make a good death.

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Thank you, Killgore.

re: #92 snowcrash

Unclear.Just a scroll across IBNLive streaming. Does the word "stuck" imply trapped by fire?

Hope for the best. . .

re: #106 Catttt

Picture of the Taj.

TY!

re: #90 Pastorius

doesn't sound like anyone i'd want in the office.

re: #105 redc1c4

Obama and smart just don't go together.....

I am not so sure. he may very well be a dam socialist, but I never got the impression he is stupid. I don't like his taste in women or preachers, but that's another story.

"The stairwell of the old wing is full of dead bodies" - NDTV

Saahasik!
Go India!

Stairwell in the old building is full of dead bodies, is being reported. Hoping those are all terrorists. Fire out.

re: #110 Racer X

Can you imagine what if this was happening in New York right now? Los Angeles? Chicago?

It will happen.

"The stairwell in the old wing is full of bodies"

Unconfirmed, let's hope it's not true.

Folks, keep your eyes and ears open in coming days, especially on mass transit, high-profile public areas, etc. I have to wonder if the jihadists won't try to roll in more attacks.

Jaamu & Kashmir are the "disputed regions" where much Hindu/musulman violence erupts continually.

The movie "Ghandhi" also dealt with this senseless jihadism in that area of the world.

Violent fanaticism did not respond well to the change they were waiting for either.

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

What a beautiful building.

Not anymore.

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

What a beautiful building.

I was just thinking the same thing.

re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans

The Jihadis "screwed" with the US financial sector and just got a bunch of L³s to blame the US for anything we did in reaction.

Now we have another "hot spot" to be concerned about as terrorism ramps up the slaughter of innocents.

Big difference. The Hindus and Muslims of India have, for centuries, been enemies. Big time. India is still about 75% Hindu. They will not appreciate being blamed for the Muslim actions. They are the East, we are the West; no matter what western ideals are, the East is very very different.

People are shouting out for help, people inside the Taj.

re: #107 Occasional Reader

It crashes every time I try to open it. Crashes LGF, too. IE7 suckitude, I guess.

Try with Firefox, I'm on a Mac and the feed is fine (with Safari 3.2.1)

re: #106 Catttt

Thanks Catttt.

People are still shouting out for help...(at Taj Hotel).

Anyone else smell the work of the ISF.

There is no way in hell this isn't Pakistani intelligence

re: #130 Occasional Reader

Folks, keep your eyes and ears open in coming days, especially on mass transit, high-profile public areas, etc. I have to wonder if the jihadists won't try to roll in more attacks.

Exactly why I don't discount the rumor of the NYC Transit strike.

I'm having flashbacks to watching people jumping from the twin towers.

re: #113 Pastorius

#101 J.S.

James Jones has a checkered record (with respect to Israel...he wrote one hell of a crazy report once upon a time...)

Hmm, I'll check that out.

Yep- he is VERY anti Israel- the report was never filed BECAUSE it was so biased and he refused to acknowledge the tactical risk to ceding Golan and any part of Jerusalem. He is a fucker- in my opinion, sorry, harsh, but he throws the need for good planning and tactical prowess when it is Jews?

re: #139 pegcity

Anyone else smell the work of the ISF.

There is no way in hell this isn't Pakistani intelligence

Very hard to say.

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

What a beautiful building.

And that's why the barbarians want to destroy it.

Good friends, family and I celebrated New Years 2008 at the Taj Hotel. It was beautiful in a gorgeous setting overlooking a harbor. We gave little thought to security, although the subject came up...
So hard to see these pictures now!

re: #90 Pastorius

I'm not entirely happy with the Jones pic because of his record on Israel. He was one of those "special envoys" and recommended things like NATO force replacing the IDF in the West Bank.

re: #107 Occasional Reader
I am using IE7 and getting live feed coverage from IBNLive.com (CNN IBN live streaming) with no problems now.

re: #126 Crimsonfisted

Stairwell in the old building is full of dead bodies, is being reported. Hoping those are all terrorists. Fire out.

Speechless

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

What a beautiful building.

Lets hope it survives as well as those who are inside (except the terrorists of course)

James Jones' report on Israel:

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

The United States security coordinator for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, retired general James Jones, is preparing an extremely critical report of Israel's policies in the territories and its attitude toward the Palestinian Authority's security services.

A few copies of the report's executive summary (or, according to some sources, a draft of it) have been given to senior Bush Administration officials, and it is reportedly arousing considerable discomfort. In recent weeks, the administration has been debating whether to allow Jones to publish his full report, or whether to tell him to shelve it and make do with the summary, given the approaching end of President George Bush's term.

Jones was appointed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice following the Annapolis peace conference last November. His assignment was to draft a strategic plan to facilitate stabilization of the security situation, as a necessary accompaniment to Israeli-Palestinian final-status negotiations. In this context, he assessed the PA security forces in the West Bank, whose reform is being overseen by another American general, Keith Dayton. Jones has visited the region several times and met with senior Israeli government officials and army officers.

Jones is apparently critical of Israel on two key issues. One is its fairly broad definition of its security interests in the West Bank under any final-status agreement. The other is its attitude toward the PA security services.

However, the sources said, Jones also had some criticism for Washington: He said its efforts to reform the PA security services fell short and complained that U.S. government agencies are not coordinating their assistance for these forces. In addition, he reportedly concluded that the PA forces are not yet capable of effectively enforcing the law in the West Bank.

re: #115 Airedale

It will KILL a lot of people. that is their mission

concise.
upding.

"All schools and colleges will remain shut today in Mumbai"

Events like this provide a sense of perspective. It makes worrying about your 401K value seem silly.

re: #141 Shug

I'm having flashbacks to watching people jumping from the twin towers.

Same here :(

re: #147 snowcrash

I am using IE7 and getting live feed coverage from IBNLive.com (CNN IBN live streaming) with no problems now.

Hm. I'm still at work, so it could be the firewall messing with it.

Australian Broadcasting Corporation - Scores dead: Army storms Mumbai hotels

Indian troops have reportedly stormed Mumbai's luxury Oberoi and Taj Mahal Palace hotels after coordinated terrorist attacks which left scores of people dead and Westerners taken hostage.

At least 78 people have been killed and more than 200 injured in the attacks across India's financial capital this morning.

Targets included the Oberoi and Taj hotels, the city's main railway station, the Cama hospital, and the Cafe Leopold, near the Taj Hotel and perhaps the most famous restaurant and hang-out for tourists in the city.

This morning the Taj Hotel was on fire and explosions had been heard in both the hotels.

Acting Foreign Minister Simon Crean says at least two Australians have been injured in the attacks. Anyone concerned about friends or relatives can call DFAT on 1300 555 135

A trade delegation from New South Wales was among the guests staying at the Oberoi Hotel.

The delegation of about 20 people includes representatives from several companies in New South Wales as well as some departmental staff.

A spokeswoman for the NSW Department of State and Regional Development says the leader of the delegation called the department when alarms were going off in the hotel and they were being asked to leave their rooms, but the department has not been able to contact him since.

An organisation calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in an email sent to Indian media organisations.

One witness at the Taj hotel said the attackers had been searching for people with British and American passports.

"I guess they were after foreigners, because they were asking for British or American passports," said Rakesh Patel, a British witness who lives in Hong Kong and was staying at the Taj Mahal hotel on business. "They had bombs."

"They came from the restaurant and took us up the stairs," he told the NDTV news channel, smoke stains all over his face. "Young boys, maybe 20 years old, 25 years old. They had two guns."

Speaking to ABC2's News Breakfast program, former ABC reporter Savitri Choudhry said the attacks had plunged the city into chaos.

"There have already been three explosions inside the [Taj] hotel," she said.

"There have been reports that the commandos were trying to storm the hotel but ... they're not sure how many people they are up against.

"I was in the Taj Hotel myself earlier this evening. As soon as I heard about the blast I called [my friend]. She was holed up in her room ... she said she could hear them outside her door. She turned off her lights and television ... we've been trying to call her but there's been no response yet and that's been very disturbing.

"People have been calling out, some have even escaped. There are a large number of guests who have been cordoned off and are in a safe part of the hotel."

An Australian woman caught up in the attacks says the city is in chaos.

Chloe Papazahariakis told the Nine Network Mumbai is in total lockdown.

She says she has just moved to Mumbai to be married in four days and has about 20 friends with her for the wedding in the midst of the chaos.

Ms Papazahariakis says she and her friends have locked themselves inside the restaurant where her reception is to be held.

She says a nearby hospital has been bombed by terrorists.

She also says one man was shot dead in a gun battle between police and terrorists just 10 metres from the restaurant they are in.

re: #142 DisturbedEma

Also heard he was blaming Israel for terrorist attacks, and was wanting to put American troops into the West Bank.

Ladders are up to help people out.

re: #134 Eowyn2

Big difference. The Hindus and Muslims of India have, for centuries, been enemies. Big time. India is still about 75% Hindu. They will not appreciate being blamed for the Muslim actions. They are the East, we are the West; no matter what western ideals are, the East is very very different.

I know, and so see this as the fuse burning down into the bomb casing to light off the explosive inside.

Cant get live feed. Is this turning out worse than an hour ago? It sounds like it is escalating.

NDTD says fire at Taj largely out now.

re: #158 Crimsonfisted

Ladders are up to help people out.

I think those are more for helping the fire people in?

re: #136 Flying Dutchman

Try with Firefox, I'm on a Mac and the feed is fine (with Safari 3.2.1)

wait . . . 3.2.1?!?

BRB, I'm going to update my Safari browser.

re: #153 MrPaulRevere

Events like this provide a sense of perspective. It makes worrying about your 401K value seem silly.

* * *
We are still so blessed--and Little Green Footballs is again another thing to be grateful for this year. Thank you, dear souls.

May God help those being held. May there be very brave souls among them.

More photos of the taj hotel

142 Ema

Yep- he is VERY anti Israel- the report was never filed BECAUSE it was so biased and he refused to acknowledge the tactical risk to ceding Golan and any part of Jerusalem. He is a fucker- in my opinion, sorry, harsh, but he throws the need for good planning and tactical prowess when it is Jews?

Interesting. I just heard Michael Medved raving about what a great appt. James Jones is.

re: #146 transient

I'm not entirely happy with the Jones pic because of his record on Israel. He was one of those "special envoys" and recommended things like NATO force replacing the IDF in the West Bank.

Yeah, because NATO troops would do a marvelous job of keeping Hamas from launching rockets into Israel.

Just like they've kept Hezbollah from rearming in southern Lebanon.

Not.

Here's a Google News link, set up to bring you the latest stories as they occur.

Reporter on IBN called The Taj Hotel an iconic symbol of the growth and success of Mumbai.

NDTV reports that the fire is almost under control in the Taj hotel

No doubt there are some brave hostages that will try to take out a couple of these terrorist assholes.

re: #168 lobo91

Yeah, because NATO troops would do a marvelous job of keeping Hamas from launching rockets into Israel.

Just like they've kept Hezbollah from rearming in southern Lebanon.

Not.

you mean U.N. I think..

re: #154 Flying Dutchman

Make that three.

I need to stop trying to follow this. I'm feeling sick and I'm getting short of breath.

re: #169 gmsc

Here's a Google News link, set up to bring you the latest stories as they occur.

That will do for moment, thanks gmsc

re: #150 Pastorius

James Jones' report on Israel:

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

The United States security coordinator for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, retired general James Jones, is preparing an extremely critical report of Israel's policies in the territories and its attitude toward the Palestinian Authority's security services.

A few copies of the report's executive summary (or, according to some sources, a draft of it) have been given to senior Bush Administration officials, and it is reportedly arousing considerable discomfort. In recent weeks, the administration has been debating whether to allow Jones to publish his full report, or whether to tell him to shelve it and make do with the summary, given the approaching end of President George Bush's term.

Jones was appointed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice following the Annapolis peace conference last November. His assignment was to draft a strategic plan to facilitate stabilization of the security situation, as a necessary accompaniment to Israeli-Palestinian final-status negotiations. In this context, he assessed the PA security forces in the West Bank, whose reform is being overseen by another American general, Keith Dayton. Jones has visited the region several times and met with senior Israeli government officials and army officers.

Jones is apparently critical of Israel on two key issues. One is its fairly broad definition of its security interests in the West Bank under any final-status agreement. The other is its attitude toward the PA security services.

However, the sources said, Jones also had some criticism for Washington: He said its efforts to reform the PA security services fell short and complained that U.S. government agencies are not coordinating their assistance for these forces. In addition, he reportedly concluded that the PA forces are not yet capable of effectively enforcing the law in the West Bank.

He also refused to see the risks to civilians in the Golan and in Jerusalem- and he also refused to even try to require the PA to actually do its job- Israel was supposed to arm people sworn to her destruction. . .bastard!

re: #162 Nevergiveup

I think those are more for helping the fire people in?

I heard the news guy say they were trying to help the people down, and that will be the intent if they are not doing it now. He said it again just now, but I was typing and he might have been correcting himself.

They are seeing people leaving out of the fire exits.

Man o man...ANOTHER outbreak of Peace in a pub?
These bastahds are incompatible with any life and need to be REMOVED.
May the Indian forces decimate them.

NDTV also says there is still firing (fight) in the Taj hotel

re: #157 J.S.

Also heard he was blaming Israel for terrorist attacks, and was wanting to put American troops into the West Bank.

Which Israel flat out refused to do- which, if I am remebering it correctly sparked a 'what do the Jews not want us to see' debate. . .sheesh

re: #166 Shug

More photos of the taj hotel

I think those are pictures of the palace it self, not the hotel.
Lovely tho

re: #166 Shug
Wow. How beautiful it must have been.

re: #172 bellamags

No doubt there are some brave hostages that will try to take out a couple of these terrorist assholes.

Let's hope so.

Yes, he said it again, that the fireman are trying to get the people out in the baskets.

re: #181 Wishing

I think those are pictures of the palace it self, not the hotel.
Lovely tho

I agree

re: #174 Dianna

Make that three.

I need to stop trying to follow this. I'm feeling sick and I'm getting short of breath.

This 9/11-style replay is not something I am enjoying either.

re: #168 lobo91

Yeah, because NATO troops would do a marvelous job of keeping Hamas from launching rockets into Israel.

Just like they've kept Hezbollah from rearming in southern Lebanon.

Not.

Well that wasn't NATO but UN forces and some Italians I think. Anyway putting NATO forces in the west bank would be a major mistake on Israel's part in my opinion. They are not trained to tackle Palestinian terrorists and will only get in Israel's way when it retaliates. And that means a whole host of other problems.

A media report says a little-known group, the Deccan Mujahideen, has claimed responsibility for the Mumbai terrorist attacks.

Ahh, there you go.........no surprises there.

Those guys on the aerial unit have humongous brass ones.

NDTV - 2 terrorists killed inside the Taj.
2 more "to go", they said

re: #177 Crimsonfisted

Maybe

2 terrorists killed in the Taj, 2 more to go he just said.

The fire on the corner appears to be out.

I think they have a ladder truck up to the corner there.

re: #173 astronmr20

you mean U.N. I think..

You're still talking about French troops, probably, regardless of what color beret they wear on the mission.

There is no such thing as "UN troops," nor are there any "NATO troops."

Two terrorists killed in Taj hotel, two others captured

re: #181 Wishing

I think those are pictures of the palace it self, not the hotel.
Lovely tho

There are like 60 photos to scroll through

A Japanese national has been killed.

Indian army storming hotels.

re: #115 Airedale

AQ types want a war between Pakistan and India

it's coming

first will be massive riots in India -- if this was indeed an attack by Muslim terrorists, the Hindus will go batshit

re: #190 jcm

Those guys on the aerial unit have humongous brass ones.

Where are you live feeding JCM?

The tail wags the dog.

Watch it again. Closely.

re: #198 astronmr20

A Japanese national has been killed.

Looks like a lot of the world will be mourning this.

re: #197 Shug

There are like 60 photos to scroll through

I keep thinking terrorists will attack landmarks, like the Taj Mahal. They apparently prefer to attack places where they can kill the most human beings.

re: #196 Flying Dutchman

Two terrorists killed in Taj hotel, two others captured

2 others to go, I was wrong

re: #183 reine.de.tout

Let's hope so.

I hope for rescue of innocents

re: #201 A Kiwi Infidel

Where are you live feeding JCM?

Fox.........taking a feed from NDTV

re: #178 Wishing

May the Indian forces decimate them.

Decimate only means 10% destruction. May they instead be annihilated.

Hotel Taj is pride of bombay and India.
Jamshedji Tata started building this hotel when he was refused entry into 'whites only' hotel. It is not only a beautiful building, it has history.!
I can't imagine a bombay with it.

re: #202 Allah al Fubar

The tail wags the dog.

Watch it again. Closely.

?

re: #204 Catttt
And destroy the tourism economy, like 9-11.

My father was a Firefighter for 30 years. It's disconcerting to think that he could have been in a situation like this. What a cloth they are cut from.

#188 Buzzsawmonkey,

I see.

Michael Medved, however, is hardly a blinded liberal Democrat.

Very strange.

re: #210 Racer X

Like I said..

re: #168 lobo91

Yeah, because NATO troops would do a marvelous job of keeping Hamas from launching rockets into Israel.

Just like they've kept Hezbollah from rearming in southern Lebanon.

UNIFIL is in South Leb, not NATO. NATO is more effective than UN forces-- when they want to be, but there is no way that they would be as aggressive or as successful in preventing terror attacks as the Shin Bet and IDF. NATO forces would be targeted as "occupation forces" as they are in Afghan, and/or would be used as shields from which to attack Israel. Israel would not be able to respond effectively.

FNN scrollled "two terrorists left inside" then "encounter coming to an end"

Those guys in the crane have stones of titanium. Good luck to them.

re: #187 Nevergiveup

They are not trained to tackle Palestinian terrorists

Nor would they try.

What I don't is the news talk shows to roll out a spokesman for a Muslim group.
I don't want to hear that this is a teachable moment about Islam or that while this is regretable, one needs to understand that it was insults to Islam that caused it.
I really no longer care what they have to say. Quit rooting for our enemy & if you get caught funding them or aiding in any way, you go to the joint with pulled pork sanwiches three times a day & no goat visits.

That Israeli security fence is looking better then ever.

re: #146 transient

I'm not entirely happy with the Jones pic because of his record on Israel. He was one of those "special envoys" and recommended things like NATO force replacing the IDF in the West Bank.

Knowing the O's ties, why would we think he would appoint anyone who supports Israel?

Good night lizards, God be with you.

re: #202 Allah al Fubar

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re: #214 Allah al Fubar

Like I said..

Yes thank you. Mush clearer now.

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re: #205 Flying Dutchman

2 others to gopay, I was wrong

Fixed it

re: #215 transient

UNIFIL is in South Leb, not NATO. NATO is more effective than UN forces-- when they want to be, but there is no way that they would be as aggressive or as successful in preventing terror attacks as the Shin Bet and IDF. NATO forces would be targeted as "occupation forces" as they are in Afghan, and/or would be used as shields from which to attack Israel. Israel would not be able to respond effectively.

Exactly.

They are in the process of evacuating people from the Taj. Reported 50 people evac'd from emergency exits. That's gotta be a drop in the bucket though.

CNN has a live feed from an Indian affiliate.

re: #224 Racer X

Yes thank you. Mush clearer now.

/

Good. Glad you can see it.

re: #218 lobo91

Well they would talk a good story?

re: #225 DisturbedEma

Fixed it

Thanks' ;-)

This is terrible.

No one should underestimate Indian soldiers. They have fought well in every modern war from WWI to the present.

ATS (Anti-Terrorist Squad) chief Hemant Karkare, two senior police officers and 78 others were killed when terrorists struck with impunity in Mumbai on Wednesday night in coordinated multiple blasts and gunfire in a dozen areas including at iconic landmarks CST railway station and two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj.

re: #186 FurryOldGuyJeans

This 9/11-style replay is not something I am enjoying either.

Does have that feel doesn't it?

re: #222 Zimriel

Good night lizards, God be with you.

Have a wonderful holiday.

There are definetly people still in the TAJ Hotel from the pics on FOX.

re: #90 Pastorius
Oh no - you don't really want that Israel-hater Jones, do you?
Read this stuff on that nasty SOB: Obama's Top NSA And CIA Picks: Harsh On Israel, Sympathetic To Iran And Hezbollah

NDTV LIVE

[Link: www.ndtv.com...]

re: #216 Thanos

FNN scrollled "two terrorists left inside" then "encounter coming to an end"

That's also what ndtv is showing

re: #233 experiencedtraveller

No one should underestimate Indian soldiers. They have fought well in every modern war from WWI to the present.

That's good to know. I have the feeling we will be fighting along side them for the foreseeable future.

Going a bit further back it was the Indians that stopped Alexander the Great.

re: #229 Allah al Fubar

Good. Glad you can see it.

Pretend I'm slow. (OK, don't pretend). See what?

re: #231 Flying Dutchman

Thanks' ;-)

You are welcome

re: #215 transient

UNIFIL is in South Leb, not NATO. NATO is more effective than UN forces-- when they want to be

Funny, I can't think of anyplace they've been terribly effective.

NATO troops were kidnapped in Bosnia, as I recall.

And most of the ones in Afghanistan haven't fired a shot.

If you or anyone you know is concerned about relatives they can call: 1 888 I 07 iris

(Mnemonic done to get past phone number filter. That bolded, italic character is a zero.)

The Army commandos went into the Oberoi Hotel a while ago. Anyone getting any coverage of the hostage situation?

re: #243 Racer X

Pretend I'm slow. (OK, don't pretend). See what?

Quite clearly, actually. The tail wags the dog.

re: #240 reine.de.tout

That's also what ndtv is showing

There is that word again. . I do not think it means what they think it means. . .

re: #232 formercorpsman

This is terrible.

Yes.

This is hideous. I have Indian friends, including some in the diplomatic service. I pray for them to be strong. I would do anything for these folks, they are really good people.

re: #249 Allah al Fubar

Quite clearly, actually. The tail wags the dog.

No offense, but what the hell are you talking about?

re: #207 jcm

Fox.........taking a feed from NDTV

Working! upding for you

re: #249 Allah al Fubar

Quite clearly, actually. The tail wags the dog.

This dog?

re: #249 Allah al Fubar

Quite clearly, actually. The tail wags the dog.

I'm not asking who's on second!

I wonder if everyone would go apeshit if the Indians nuked Riyadh to return the favour. Thanks for the Wahibis!

re: #253 Catttt

No offense, but what the hell are you talking about?

The small appendage moves the whole, rules the whole, instead of the dog wagging it. . .

re: #141 Shug

I'm having flashbacks to watching people jumping from the twin towers.

me too.

re: #258 DisturbedEma

The small appendage moves the whole, rules the whole, instead of the dog wagging it. . .

;p

live BBC coverage here -

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #257 ducktrapper

I wonder if everyone would go apeshit if the Indians nuked Riyadh to return the favour. Thanks for the Wahibis!

Er, yes. They would.

re: #258 DisturbedEma

The small appendage moves the whole, rules the whole, instead of the dog wagging it. . .

The small group is driving the action. . .not the ruling party. . .Wag the Dog movie. . .Hoffman. . .and some other people. . .

i pray they get those hostages out of there.

Six Indian members of parliament may be caught in the Taj.

re: #250 DisturbedEma

There is that word again. . I do not think it means what they think it means. . .

ndtv - appears the reporters speak english as second language. so i suspect (but I can't know for sure, of course) that this is just the word they learned to use for this type of thing.

re: #207 jcm

Fox.........taking a feed from NDTV

They have the same pictures on the FOX News channel, but the TV version seems to be on a 6-second delay.

Wait a minute! The office of the President Elect put out a statement that "the President Elect strongly condemns this action"
Thems some strong words!

re: #260 Catttt

;p

I know, I am such a jackass today. . .but I did clarify. . .and did not think of the OTHER appendage. . .sigh I am off my game. . .

Did I just hear 200 held hostage?

re: #266 reine.de.tout

ndtv - appears the reporters speak english as second language. so i suspect (but I can't know for sure, of course) that this is just the word they learned to use for this type of thing.

Encounter= Date

ATTACK= what is going on today

The jihadists are determined to drag India backwards to the time of the Moghuls. Its typical of jihadis everywhere -- keep society from moving into modernity. India should have been a world power for centuries... it is absurd that a little nation like England could conquer it... yet every time it moves toward greatness, a certain minority drags it back down. They will only allow India to rise if they get to run it, but they can't run a modern society.