IPT Video: Digging Deeper Into the HLF Trial
Here’s a video report from the Investigative Project on some of the key evidence that resulted in terror convictions in the Holy Land Foundation trial.
Here’s a video report from the Investigative Project on some of the key evidence that resulted in terror convictions in the Holy Land Foundation trial.
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Karridine Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:27:37pm |
Would that we could find HOLINESS in the Holy Land... where is Mount Carmel when we need it?
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Shug Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:27:47pm |
Why would this man be afraid to show his face?
Surely, the practitioners of the Religion of Peace would want to thank him for exposing terrorism, right?
/
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:28:32pm |
Finally, some good news about terrorists and their financing getting screwed by American justice.
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Sharmuta Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:30:52pm |
Don't you love when fate intervenes? Had this man dug elsewhere or not mentioned this to his neighbors, these videos would not have been available to the prosecution.
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witness Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:31:30pm |
CNN reporting chief of India security was killed in attacks.
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Karridine Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:34:03pm |
re: #4 buzzsawmonkey
More than 'chance'... STUPIDTH, Buzz! They BURNED the CASINGS but buried the TAPES! Duhhh!
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Karridine Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:35:15pm |
re: #7 Karridine
Sorry, stupidth is not a word. The word I wanted for these morons is dumbth.
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realwest Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:37:17pm |
re: #3 FurryOldGuyJeans
Respectfully, they didn't get screwed by the American Justice system: they got Justice at the hands of the American Justice System!
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Sharmuta Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:38:06pm |
I wonder how damaged the cell phone was and if they were able to pull any forensics off of it. Even if damaged, that phone could have been a gold mine of information- call logs, text messages, contact information, etc. Any information pulled from that phone at all could have helped the case.
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realwest Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:38:08pm |
Oh, and we had some unexpected company today, and I didn't get the chance to say this to ALL LIZARDS,
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OF YOU!
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:39:20pm |
re: #8 Karridine
Sorry, stupidth is not a word. The word I wanted for these morons is dumbth.
As in dumth gwenth (paltrow)?
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pat Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:39:24pm |
Idiots wanted to destroy fingerprints but kept silly musical tapes. Vain Morooons
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Sharmuta Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:39:29pm |
re: #7 Karridine
More than 'chance'... STUPIDTH, Buzz! They BURNED the CASINGS but buried the TAPES! Duhhh!
Perhaps they thought the fireplace/grill was too obvious for investigators, so they thought they'd bury the tapes and make the authorities think the tapes were burnt.
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debutaunt Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:40:13pm |
re: #10 Sharmuta
I wonder how damaged the cell phone was and if they were able to pull any forensics off of it. Even if damaged, that phone could have been a gold mine of information- call logs, text messages, contact information, etc. Any information pulled from that phone at all could have helped the case.
I'm just tickled that they had such a dim bulb in charge of disposing of all the 'terror-stuff' and luck prevailed.
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realwest Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:42:43pm |
re: #14 Sharmuta
Ya know, for those dimwit murder enabling s.o.b.'s you might just be right!
But either way and no matter what or how, I'm just glad that they got theirs, ya know?!
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Shug Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:43:28pm |
re: #10 Sharmuta
I wonder how damaged the cell phone was and if they were able to pull any forensics off of it. Even if damaged, that phone could have been a gold mine of information- call logs, text messages, contact information, etc. Any information pulled from that phone at all could have helped the case.
the martyr song ringtone was a dead giveaway
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NoSubmission Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:44:24pm |
Criminals are stupid. I love happy endings.
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Sharmuta Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:45:54pm |
re: #15 debutaunt
I'm just tickled that they had such a dim bulb in charge of disposing of all the 'terror-stuff' and luck prevailed.
Sometimes, it's the little actions in life that trigger something larger and most of the time, we're not even aware of the impact made.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:46:11pm |
I would like to know whether all of this is going to see the likes of C.A.I.R getting their butts kicked and stripped of any legitimacy in the eyes of the media, in particular, and the public, in general.
Ahhh yes, the media...
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:47:10pm |
re: #21 A Kiwi Infidel
I would like to know whether all of this is going to see the likes of C.A.I.R getting their butts kicked and stripped of any legitimacy in the eyes of the media, in particular, and the public, in general.
Ahhh yes, the media...
But they just got their candidate elected President?
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Soona' Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:47:30pm |
re: #19 So?
DEPORT. DEPORT. DEPORT.
For them. Isolation in the penitentury. Then they can ROT ROT ROT.
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NoSubmission Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:47:35pm |
What was it? Songs of blood, killing and death? Could have just been early morning Pali kids TV.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:48:07pm |
re: #22 Nevergiveup
But they just got their candidate elected President?
The media, C.A.I.R or both?
Actually, that's probably a stupid question.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:48:57pm |
re: #25 A Kiwi Infidel
The media, C.A.I.R or both?
Actually, that's probably a stupid question.
Well redundant for sure?
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big steve Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:50:07pm |
off thread but I see a good LGF'r voted in Minnesota...Franken Contested Ballot...see pic #7
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:50:13pm |
re: #26 Nevergiveup
Well redundant for sure?
Which, if both, answers my first question as to what will happen as a result of the indictment in the HLF trials.
A big fat nothing.
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Randall Gross Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:50:17pm |
Amazing find, and I"m glad this guy made the call, and that his neighbors told him the background. A chain of happy coincidences that could have been broken at any link.
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Soona' Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:50:48pm |
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Pray for the innocent souls in India tonight.
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Karridine Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:52:58pm |
re: #14 Sharmuta
Outwitted themselves... splendid dumbth on display! Had they BURNED the tapes, it would have melted the media together in an unrecoverable mass... but Nooo, they had to be SMART!
I love it, Sharmy! Hung on their own noose, hateful swine!
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realwest Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:55:04pm |
re: #21 A Kiwi Infidel
ROTFLMAO! The MSM? Ha ha ha! No way, not unless they read LGF - they'll have to have someone connect the dots for 'em!
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Karridine Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:56:03pm |
re: #29 Thanos
Amazing find, and I"m glad this guy made the call, and that his neighbors told him the background. A chain of happy coincidences that could have been broken at any link.
NOT so coincidental, Thanos... remember that the house-owner would have picked up subconscious clues from his first moment at the house, and when THIS finally added to it all, his (America-loving) subconscious would have guided him aright, to ASK and to KEEP SAFE the cache he'd uncovered.
Not strickly "chance", but I'm with you, Thanos!
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rawmuse Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:58:24pm |
re: #11 realwest
And to you and all other Lizards, I repeat, Happy Thanksgiving, I wish you all peace and joy.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:59:14pm |
re: #27 big steve
off thread but I see a good LGF'r voted in Minnesota...Franken Contested Ballot...see pic #7
Board keeps faulty ballots from Senate recount
The state Canvassing Board, a panel of five arbiters charged with determining the winner in the overtime election tussle between Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and Democratic rival Al Franken, unanimously voted this morning to deny the Franken campaign's request that rejected absentee ballots be included in the recount.
During the discussion, the board members stressed that they weren't rejecting the merits of the arguments made by Franken's attorneys. They also made it clear they expect the issue to be litigated separately from the recount procedure.
This ruling pretty much guarantees that Franken's going to lose. But don't expect that the asshole's going to do the right thing and honorably concede. Expect him and his team of Bonkey freaks to drag this up and down through the State and Federal courts.
/welcome to Florida, with snow
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yochanan Wed, Nov 26, 2008 4:59:22pm |
[Link: israeljewishnews.blogspot.com...]
CHABAD HOUSE BOMBAY attacked and held hostage.
anyone got real time info
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WrathofG-d Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:01:27pm |
NOTICE that all of these Terrorist financiers don't look any different than most of the people living among us.
...and most likely had day jobs. Just something to think about the next time you hear..."nah, he couldn't be...he is just a regular guy who is a engineer, etc.".
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:02:40pm |
re: #39 WrathofG-d
NOTICE that all of these Terrorist financiers don't look any different than most of the people living among us.
...and most likely had day jobs. Just something to think about the next time you hear..."nah, he couldn't be...he is just a regular guy who is a engineer, etc.".
Or a college professor?
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Shug Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:03:20pm |
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WrathofG-d Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:03:30pm |
re: #38 yochanan
That isn't even what that article says. I hope only the best for the people in the Chabad, but all we know now is that they cannot be found, the report about the Chabad house being taken over is "unconfirmed".
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WrathofG-d Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:04:14pm |
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:04:31pm |
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FightingBack Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:06:18pm |
re: #27 big steve
off thread but I see a good LGF'r voted in Minnesota...Franken Contested Ballot...see pic #7
Who'd he vote for?
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WrathofG-d Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:07:11pm |
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nyc redneck Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:11:25pm |
re: #39 WrathofG-d
NOTICE that all of these Terrorist financiers don't look any different than most of the people living among us.
...and most likely had day jobs. Just something to think about the next time you hear..."nah, he couldn't be...he is just a regular guy who is a engineer, etc.".
very good point. it is so easy to impute to others your own honesty and do-the-right-thing attitude. it is important to NOT second guess your instincts if you suspect something.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:12:31pm |
03:08 Dutch entertainer, 104, denies allegations he sang for SS at Dachau (AP)
Not to joke about this, but at 104, how does he freak en remember?
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WrathofG-d Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:13:01pm |
re: #47 nyc redneck
We have been guilted into not allowing ourselves to trust our instincts and otherwise expecting all Islamists to wear long robes, have long beards, and always have a kiffeyas on.
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Fast Eddie Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:15:14pm |
Wow - videos really don't leave the bad guys a lot of wiggle room to try to lie and alibi.
Almost as good as that "stained" blue dress ...
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rawmuse Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:15:20pm |
Sometimes I wish I had never heard about any of this stuff. But then, that would have required that I would have been in coma since 9-11.
I just can't understand why it is our duty to import these evil bastids in to the US.
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Shug Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:16:39pm |
Live interview from man on his cellphone
trapped on the 5th floor of the taj
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WrathofG-d Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:17:32pm |
re: #51 rawmuse
Israel first attempted to cure its Islamist problem by giving them all homes, and education. Thinking that if they just showed the Arabs what Israel was really about, and gave them the opportunities all Israelis wanted, they would "get on board".
They used those homes as Terrorist bases, and the education to organize Terror cells, and create bombs.
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rawmuse Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:19:32pm |
re: #53 WrathofG-d
In our case, the enemy is in our home already.
To destroy the enemy, must we destroy the home?
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realwest Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:20:15pm |
re: #36 rawmuse
Thank you my friend. I've been sorta going between the Mumbai thread and this one and the attacks - still on-going are just sickening.
I just can't post anymore.
Perhaps I'll be able to - get the chance to - see you all down the road.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:20:37pm |
re: #54 rawmuse
In our case, the enemy is in our home already.
To destroy the enemy, must we destroy the home?
Are you talking about my mother-in-law?
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rawmuse Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:21:45pm |
re: #56 Nevergiveup
Are you talking about my mother-in-law?
Well, if she has a beard and chants "Death to America" like that dude in the movie, maybe.
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WrathofG-d Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:21:46pm |
re: #54 rawmuse
In our case, the enemy is in our home already.
To destroy the enemy, must we destroy the home?
No, but we shouldn't expect that they want the same things we do. We can't buy them off of their ideology is the point.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:25:12pm |
US: Feds recover bookmark that reportedly was Hitler's
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
"My Adolf, don't worry," it reads, adding that the loss was "only an inconvenience that will not break your certainty of victory. My love for you will be eternal, as our Reich will be eternal. Always yours, Eva. 3-2-43."
Hey, that Eva, what a military genius? You just can't make this stuff up?
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nyc redneck Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:28:43pm |
it is really strange and unsettling that someone like the blow hard al franken can get this close to being elected to public office.
the dems will nominate anyone. and they will vote for anyone.
he is less qualified than the O.
how ridiculous and embarrassing to watch this slob contort and maneuver and try to cheat and steal the election.
the dems have no shame. disgusting.
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opinionated Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:30:01pm |
They burn people without remorse but are too dumb to have burned the tapes.
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JCM Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:37:20pm |
re: #59 Nevergiveup
Bellevue WA, my neck of the woods. Bellevue is home to this [deleted] till he gets deported that is.
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Randall Gross Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:43:20pm |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:44:28pm |
re: #60 nyc redneck
it is really strange and unsettling that someone like the blow hard al franken can get this close to being elected to public office.
the dems will nominate anyone. and they will vote for anyone.
he is less qualified than the O.
how ridiculous and embarrassing to watch this slob contort and maneuver and try to cheat and steal the election.
the dems have no shame. disgusting.
NYC- That's because the left is obsessed with these narcissistic celebrity losers, and even a third rate hack failed comedian such as Franken is taken as a serious candidate by these leftist morons.
Myself, I wouldn't care if all of Hollywood fell into the ocean and they all drowned. Good riddance.
Our country would be a better place without the zombies (Sorry zombie, not you) who sit there night after night and watch this shit and think it's quality entertainment. Go read a book, morons!
Hollywood doesn't get a dime of my money, I don't watch their idiotic TV shows or pay to go see their recycled movies.
If it wasn't for sports, I wouldn't need a TV.
/Rant off.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:45:10pm |
re: #54 rawmuse
In our case, the enemy is in our home already.
To destroy the enemy, must we destroy the home?
No, you must just have to be allowed to use profiling.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:45:15pm |
re: #63 Thanos
Where is that and what is the Mohammed Agency?
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:47:23pm |
re: #57 rawmuse
Well, if she has a beard and chants "Death to America" like that dude in the movie, maybe.
I know its an oldie, but it is a goody
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Mich-again Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:47:54pm |
Anyone else around here going to the parade in the morning? Who can say no to giant head puppets, marching bands and the Captain Underpants float. I'm hoping we'll see some Kwame lookalikes in the Turkey Trot.
The parade is always fun, but you have to get there early and bring a crowd with you to hold the ground and the curb space for the kids. We got about 20 going.
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:50:38pm |
re: #62 JCM
I have kin in Bellevue - Hood Canal?
Also have kin from the other side of the family in Des Moines.
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:51:53pm |
NDTV says it looks like "final assault" preparations are underway at Taj
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JCM Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:52:51pm |
re: #69 Noam Sayin'
I have kin in Bellevue - Hood Canal?
Also have kin from the other side of the family in Des Moines.
Just east of Seattle on the East side of Lake Washington.
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ozymandias Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:54:22pm |
does anyone know what happened to the blog "shape of things to come"?
i hadn't checked it out in a few years and now its disappeared completely, no google even.
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WriterMom Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:54:39pm |
re: #60 nyc redneck
( ( nyc redneck) ) did you get my e-mail?
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:55:57pm |
re: #71 JCM
I caught a sand shark somewhere in the sound when I was 12. I'm pretty sure I remember them calling it Hood canal.
But that was over 30 years ago.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:56:42pm |
Russia building 'Berlin Wall' in Georgia: FM
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
That didn't work out so well last time, did it?
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:57:04pm |
re: #71 JCM
Oh, yeah. And Bremerton. That's where I caught the sand shark.
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nyc redneck Wed, Nov 26, 2008 5:59:00pm |
re: #73 WriterMom
i just checked it. you are a sweet heart.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:00:13pm |
re: #75 Nevergiveup
Russia building 'Berlin Wall' in Georgia: FM
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
That didn't work out so well last time, did it?
I hope it's our border with Alabama thats being walled off. I would hate to be cut off from South Carolina or Florida !
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fiat_lux Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:03:55pm |
In WW2, we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We spared Kyoto. We fire bombed Dresden and other German cities. What should our strategy be as regards countries and territories whom we know give safe haven for terrorists.
Should we now throw out all diplomatic considerations, exert our overwhelming military force
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:04:19pm |
re: #78 sattv4u2
I hope it's our border with Alabama thats being walled off. I would hate to be cut off from South Carolina or Florida !
Go bama, Roll tide! I guess your not a fan of the number one ranked team in the country?
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Karridine Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:06:23pm |
re: #79 fiat_lux
It sometimes seems as if we're in a new generation of people who pointedly DO NOT BELIEVE America (or any other God-fearing, western nation) ever DID or ever WILL 'exert overwhelming military force' to eradicate the racist, terrorist religious zealots now infesting our Earth...
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:07:15pm |
re: #79 fiat_lux
Be careful, you are treading on dangerous ground.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:07:35pm |
re: #80 Nevergiveup
Go bama, Roll tide! I guess your not a fan of the number one ranked team in the country?
They;re only 11-0. Utah is 12-0!
/ heheheh
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fiat_lux Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:07:47pm |
re: #81 fiat_lux
In short, should the US disregard all diplomatic and territorial considerations and eliminate the terrorist threat wherever it may exist?
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:08:53pm |
Been too heart sick to say anything till now. I just wonder what India's response will be when they track down the group responsible for the whole mess going on right now.
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Karridine Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:09:44pm |
re: #85 fiat_lux
Would be counterproductive. "America is the BIGGEST terrorist thug! Waaah! Boo-hoo!" would run the Victim's Grievance Theater!
Gotta be some other way, Fiat
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Mich-again Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:10:15pm |
I was raised here but I have lots of family in Alabama. Baldwin County to be exact. And Gramps was a big fan of Bear Bryant. Roll Tide!
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Wishing Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:10:50pm |
Nice guy, out working in the yard, is the key to putting these sadists out of business.
Way to go!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:10:56pm |
4 terrorists dead ,,, 9 arrested. Knowing that part of the world, I'd rather be one of the dead ones!
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:11:33pm |
re: #87 BlueCanuck
My guess is that this, like previous attacks, will be traced back to Pakistan's secret service (ISI). They will arrest and prosecute those who they can find. Other than that I don't expect anything out of the ordinary.
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WriterMom Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:12:26pm |
I'm sick-there are unconfirmed rumours that Jewish hostages at the Chabad House in Mumbai are being executed...the Rabbi and his wife have not been heard from...wikkipedia and twitter are updating live.
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snowcrash Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:13:56pm |
IBNLive saying terrorists holed up in Nariman house.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:14:11pm |
re: #94 WriterMom
IBN is broadcasting live from there now.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:14:40pm |
re: #95 snowcrash
They've been sniping out the windows all night.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:14:59pm |
re: #94 WriterMom
Oh, no. That's horrible. I hope we can get some confirmation on this. At least I hope it's not true.
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Wishing Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:15:08pm |
re: #94 WriterMom
I'm sick-there are unconfirmed rumours that Jewish hostages at the Chabad House in Mumbai are being executed...the Rabbi and his wife have not been heard from...wikkipedia and twitter are updating live.
I despise these thugs. Is there any live coverage at this point?
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Wishing Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:15:25pm |
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nyc redneck Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:15:41pm |
re: #94 WriterMom
I'm sick-there are unconfirmed rumours that Jewish hostages at the Chabad House in Mumbai are being executed...the Rabbi and his wife have not been heard from...wikkipedia and twitter are updating live.
i am sick to my stomach abt, what is going on over there. such evil. such horror.
(i sent you and e-mail WriterMom)
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Wishing Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:16:43pm |
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livefreeor die Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:17:40pm |
These "people" are rabid dogs. You cannot reason with them or rehabilitate them. You can only keep them away from people and put them down.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:18:40pm |
re: #88 Karridine
Would be counterproductive. "America is the BIGGEST terrorist thug! Waaah! Boo-hoo!" would run the Victim's Grievance Theater!
Gotta be some other way, Fiat
There is...you keep terrorist's 'at home' where they can ply their trade with seeming no State prohibition or prevention.
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JCM Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:19:07pm |
re: #74 Noam Sayin'
I caught a sand shark somewhere in the sound when I was 12. I'm pretty sure I remember them calling it Hood canal.
But that was over 30 years ago.
A bit west, Hood Canal. The West Coast Ohio base is at Bangor on Hood canal, thanks to Scoop Jackson and Warren Magunson.
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Wishing Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:19:12pm |
It is a shame that Karkare was murdered. He was a good guy doing much good.
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fiat_lux Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:19:35pm |
re: #83 Killgore Trout
Karridine and Kigore: We live in a nuclear world and must be sensible to that. We,the democratic freedom lovers, must protect the freedom that was born in Greece 2500 years ago. Can we fight the menace to freedom that is exerting itself throughout the world and that is dedicated to the destruction of those freedoms for which we have defended against all enemies since our countries inception? How do we respect the borders of countries who harbor our enemies? What sacrifices must we make? This enemy must be destroyed at all costa.
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snowcrash Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:20:57pm |
re: #101 Killgore Trout
Did you hear anymore about the Army commando operation at the Oberoi hotel? First reports of hostages were from there.
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livefreeor die Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:23:38pm |
So, did they infiltrate the security forces. They killed at least a couple of high level anti-terrorism officials as part of the attacks.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:23:45pm |
re: #109 snowcrash
Last I heard they were still on one of the upper floors with hostages.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:23:53pm |
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:24:45pm |
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snowcrash Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:25:28pm |
I am not used to terrorists living thru their bombings and engaging in gunfights.
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FrogMarch Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:25:54pm |
wow. and to think all that stuff almost got thrown out.
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infidel Alan Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:26:01pm |
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BlueCanuck Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:27:04pm |
re: #115 snowcrash
Not all terror attacks require the terrorist to die right off the top. Look at the news that's been coming out with all the hostage taking and random shootings. This is a slow burn form of terrorism and just as effective.
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LEGION Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:27:18pm |
BUT BUT BUT ISLAM IS PEACE- they are our brothers- we have a prex elect whose middle name is Hussien...///
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:28:25pm |
re: #106 JCM
Okay, so I do remember something from my childhood (I drink a lot).
Upding for the supplemental information.
Lesson to the newbies. No matter how arcane the information you find on the innernets, some geek here might find it useful.
Last night I posted a link to early-rock instrumentation, and several people chimed in to say they'd bookmarked it for review at a later date.
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livefreeor die Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:29:20pm |
re: #119 LEGION
BUT BUT BUT ISLAM IS PEACE- they are our brothers- we have a prex elect whose middle name is Hussien...///
He's perfectly happy to trot out and stand behind his official "Office of the President-Elect" podium with his economic ideas every day but watch how he hides with this one and defers to President Bush. Not that I think his assistance would be helpful.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:29:30pm |
re: #118 BlueCanuck
Not all terror attacks require the terrorist to die right off the top. Look at the news that's been coming out with all the hostage taking and random shootings. This is a slow burn form of terrorism and just as effective.
It might be even more effective. It prolongs the onslaught of bad news and thus may more effectively demoralize its targets. Vilely clever.
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Wishing Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:30:03pm |
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Mich-again Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:30:06pm |
So what do they want the hostages for? If all they wanted to do was kill them, they would have already done that and then tried to escape in the confusion.
There is no escape from where they are. And no matter how this scene unfolds, they are on a suicide mission. So the hostage scenario doesn't make much sense unless they have a specific demand.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:08pm |
OK... this India thing has got to rank as the longest (in raw duration) terror attack...
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Wishing Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:29pm |
re: #125 Mich-again
So what do they want the hostages for? If all they wanted to do was kill them, they would have already done that and then tried to escape in the confusion.
There is no escape from where they are. And no matter how this scene unfolds, they are on a suicide mission. So the hostage scenario doesn't make much sense unless they have a specific demand.
They will probably ask to make a video...spit!
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livefreeor die Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:43pm |
re: #125 Mich-again
So what do they want the hostages for? If all they wanted to do was kill them, they would have already done that and then tried to escape in the confusion.
There is no escape from where they are. And no matter how this scene unfolds, they are on a suicide mission. So the hostage scenario doesn't make much sense unless they have a specific demand.
They might just want more television coverage of their slaughtering innocent people and the hostages allow them to draw that out.
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3 wood Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:31:51pm |
These twit "journalists" on TV are too much.
I was watching CNN a few minutes ago and they were talking on the phone to someone hiding in the Taj hotel.
The anchor asked the person on the phone exactly he was were in relation to the terrorists...
The person on the phone said they would rather not reveal that to the terrorists over the TV.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:32:12pm |
re: #126 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
OK... this India thing has got to rank as the longest (in raw duration) terror attack...
I'd go with the 1972 Munich Olympic Massacre?
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JCM Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:32:20pm |
re: #125 Mich-again
So what do they want the hostages for? If all they wanted to do was kill them, they would have already done that and then tried to escape in the confusion.
There is no escape from where they are. And no matter how this scene unfolds, they are on a suicide mission. So the hostage scenario doesn't make much sense unless they have a specific demand.
Make the authorities grovel for their release, give the authorities pause in planning an all out assault. Parade the hostages in front of the cameras.
For 444 days a bunch kept Rabbit Bait on his knee's taking one in the ** everyday.
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livefreeor die Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:32:26pm |
re: #129 3 wood
These twit "journalists" on TV are too much.
I was watching CNN a few minutes ago and they were talking on the phone to someone hiding in the Taj hotel.
The anchor asked the person on the phone exactly he was were in relation to the terrorists...
The person on the phone said they would rather not reveal that to the terrorists over the TV.
Lord, I hate CNN.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:32:47pm |
re: #126 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
OK... this India thing has got to rank as the longest (in raw duration) terror attack...
Agreed.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:32:53pm |
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Nevergiveup Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:34:44pm |
re: #135 Iron Fist
He's going to find that the Jihadis aren't going to care that he just wants to vote "Present" and get on with his life. There's really no middle ground where he can get them to "just leave us alone". In less than two months he will be the man. It's what he's wanted.
We'll see how that works out for him.
Screw him ( figuratively ), what about us?
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livefreeor die Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:21pm |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:33pm |
So, what kind of gun laws exist in India.
/I have an idea I'll find that they are very restrictive. Meaning lots of unarmed victims walking about. Kinda like a school "gun free" zone.
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Sunlight Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:36:17pm |
re: #130 Nevergiveup
I'd go with the 1972 Munich Olympic Massacre?
The video of the Taj looks sooo much like the Olympics with the terrorists peeking over the balconies. Give me the creeps.
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Sunlight Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:38pm |
The IBN reporter was just talking about those "martyred today"... hmmm.
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fiat_lux Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:38pm |
re: #140 Sunlight
Were they speaking of the terrorist who died as martyrs ?
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Killian Bundy Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:42pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:47pm |
re: #143 fiat_lux
I am terrorists.
Medically, I'm not sure whats wrong with you. But after watching your posts in the last 2 threads I'm sure it's hard to spell !
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JCM Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:50pm |
re: #145 sattv4u2
Medically, I'm not sure whats wrong with you. But after watching your posts in the last 2 threads I'm sure it's hard to spell !
Cranial rectal inversion?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:18pm |
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JCM Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:55pm |
re: #147 sattv4u2
I said hard to spell ,,, not hard to do!
ROFL!
Hard to spell for who?
I had to look that up... TWICE!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:32pm |
re: #148 JCM
ROFL!
Hard to spell for who?
I had to look that up... TWICE!
I'm not EVEN gonna ask where UP was !
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fiat_lux Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:36pm |
re: #145 sattv4u2
And dark_Falcon I intnnded to say, " I mean terrorists". I think I am too exercised about this latest terrorist attacks in India.
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:54pm |
re: #146 JCM
Cranial rectal inversion?
Reminds me when my 15 year old lad was being diagnosed with possible appendicitis. The doc does the tummy check, gets him to jump up and down, takes temp, then mutters "I may need to do a rectal examination"
To which my lad responds "I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT I DONT LIKE THE SOUND OF IT!"
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:06pm |
re: #150 fiat_lux
And dark_Falcon I intnnded to say, " I mean terrorists". I think I am too exercised about this latest terrorist attacks in India.
Ya brain is running ahead of your typing fingers. Learn to use Preview, coz Preview is your friend.
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Mich-again Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:12pm |
re: #131 JCM
re: #128 livefreeor die
re: #127 Wishing
If its all about publicity, the Islamists got it. (Can I call them that?) But they aren't getting out alive. At least not for long. There are no negotiations that will end up in their walking away free. I think the best tactic now is to stall as long as possible to try to figure out who is where and then storm the place with overwhelming force. Every one of the terrorists leaves the scene dead.
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fiat_lux Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:01:38pm |
re: #152 A Kiwi Infidel
Thank you Kiwi. That is exactly what happened.
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LC LaWedgie Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:16pm |
It can't happen here
It can't happen here
I'm telling you my dear, that it can't haa-pen here...
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whitehatguy Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:01:14pm |
We have seen the enemy and the enemy is us.
Well, kinda.
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