Wednesday Night Open

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Open • Wed Nov 26, 2008 at 6:34 pm PST • Views: 150

An open thread for a pre-Thanksgiving Wednesday evening.

UPDATE at 11/26/08 6:57:33 pm:

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UPDATE at 11/26/08 7:38:10 pm:

Now closed, with 42 hatchlings.

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1 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:35:39pm

Please let there be some good news soon. Please, please, please.

2 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:36:15pm

re: #1 BlueCanuck

Please let there be some good news soon. Please, please, please.

Ditto. Prayers for that and all the victims.

3 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:36:16pm

Thanks for this website and all it provides.

4 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:36:54pm

I'm thankful I live next door to the U.S.A.

G-d Bless America.

5 sbvft contributor  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:37:35pm

Thanks to God for allowing me to hit the jackpot by being born in the greatest country in the history of the planet. And thanks for LGF.

6 joecitizen  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:38:43pm

things just keep gettin' curiouser and curiouser..

7 Opinionated  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:39:56pm

Besides the hotel andf other popular spots, it's possible that the attackers in Mumbai went out of their way to also attack a Jewish target.

Joshua Runyan, the news editor of the Chabad.org/news website, told the Post that there had been "several reports that shots were fired in the vicinity of the Chabad House, and unconfirmed reports on CNN of casualties in the Nariman House." Nariman House, Runyan said, was the original name of the Chabad House, which was purchased two years ago.

The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem confirmed the possibility that hostages had been taken in the Chabad House area, Israel Radio reported.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

8 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:40:17pm

Gonna be a fun four years.

/Keep the powder dry. Protect one's hearth and home.

9 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:40:47pm

Happy Thanksgiving Charles and Lizard Nation!
Thanks for all the insight and information. We are truly blessed.

10 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:40:52pm

We, here in NZ, do not celebrate Thanksgiving, but there sure a heck of a lot to be thankful for. But I will thank Charles for LGF, I thank the US for being the only deterent against the evil that is constantly trying to destroy the freedom of the West.

But mostly I thank God for all that He provides starting with the very breath in my lungs each day.

11 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:15pm

re: #8 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Gonna be a fun four years.

/Keep the powder dry. Protect one's hearth and home.

Amen to that. Has Barry even released a statement on this yet? Or is he hiding at home, cursing that this story will pre-empt his Barbara Walters interview as a major story tomorrow?

12 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:41:52pm

I pray India's troops/police get these bastards and dont let them get away to kill again.

13 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:06pm

I understand the Indians have taken the Taj and rescued a hundred hostages.

14 joecitizen  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:21pm

these fuckers in mumbai aren't finished yet, it seems..this could get much worse..how's that little feller obama doin' on this, so far? perhaps realizing he doesn't REALLY have any power yet?

15 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:22pm

re: #11 livefreeor die

Amen to that. Has Barry even released a statement on this yet? Or is he hiding at home, cursing that this story will pre-empt his Barbara Walters interview as a major story tomorrow?


Thats an upding, you betcha. That guy is an egotist and suddenly the news aint about him.

16 snowcrash  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:24pm

re: #7 Opinionated
Nariman House is reported to be within 15 min walking distance to the taj Hotel. Didn't have to go to far out of their way.

17 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:33pm

Still image on Fox of one of the terrorists. Young dude.

18 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:40pm

re: #11 livefreeor die

Amen to that. Has Barry even released a statement on this yet? Or is he hiding at home, cursing that this story will pre-empt his Barbara Walters interview as a major story tomorrow?

I think he basically said, You mean people, behave. I have a cabinet to fill!

19 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:42pm

re: #14 joecitizen

these fuckers in mumbai aren't finished yet, it seems..this could get much worse..how's that little feller obama doin' on this, so far? perhaps realizing he doesn't REALLY have any power yet?


Agreed

20 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:42:53pm

Mark Steyn on H&C right now.

21 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:19pm

re: #11 livefreeor die

Amen to that. Has Barry even released a statement on this yet? Or is he hiding at home, cursing that this story will pre-empt his Barbara Walters interview as a major story tomorrow?

Frankly, Barry should keep his mouth shut and let the adults handle things... he'll get plenty of time to screw things up after being sworn in.

22 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:22pm

re: #7 Opinionated

Who could have perpetrated such an outrage? It's a complete mystery.

23 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:32pm

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

Mark Steyn on H&C right now.

HEY HOCKEYFAN - was wonderin what happened to ya.

24 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:43:36pm

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

Mark Steyn on H&C right now.


Day yam, is there a chance of a live feed?

25 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:44:57pm
26 sbvft contributor  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:08pm

Hugh Hewitt was playing a clip of some dope reporter from CNN trying to pin the blame on the Great Satan. Saying we're mean to Muslims or something. Good Lord - I really despise our media.

27 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:12pm

What happened? Everyone leave the room?

28 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:19pm

re: #14 joecitizen

I hope the Indians capture a few of them alive...

29 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:20pm

re: #21 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Frankly, Barry should keep his mouth shut and let the adults handle things... he'll get plenty of time to screw things up after being sworn in.

Concur. Though he could do himself some good by promising real and specific measures to combat these scum. Not that I think he will do that, but I pray that he will.

30 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:27pm

re: #17 bellamags

Still image on Fox of one of the terrorists. Young dude.

Haar, evening Bella, terrorism is a young man's game. Most will grow out of it if they live long enough. Look at Bill Ayers, he hasn't blown anything up in 35 years!

31 pat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:49pm
These coordinated attacks on innocent civilians demonstrate the grave and urgent threat of terrorism.," said Brooke Anderson, President-elect Barack Obama's chief national security spokesperson. "We stand with the people of India, whose democracy will prove far more resilient than the hateful ideology that led to these attacks,”

Bland but OK I think. Shows an understanding that the terrorists really don't care about Obama's "talk" BS.

32 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:45:52pm

The lady reporting on IBN has last name of Gupta...I wonder if she is related to Dr Gupta of Cnn/medical embed,Iraq, fame?

33 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:10pm

re: #23 bellamags

HEY HOCKEYFAN - was wonderin what happened to ya.

Howdy!

I'm at a Toyota dealership and working long hours now. I miss my daily LGF time at work. I still read LGF from time to time but rarely get to come on.

Have I missed anything significant in the past 3 months?

34 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:31pm

re: #30 LoFlyer

Haar, evening Bella, terrorism is a young man's game. Most will grow out of it if they live long enough. Look at Bill Ayers, he hasn't blown anything up in 35 years!

Hey loflyer - how many times in your life have you said "Alan you are a dumbass?" (colmes)

35 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:34pm

re: #26 sbvft contributor

The media are not biased at all. They are clearly on the side of the enemy.

36 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:46:45pm

re: #22 whiterasta

Who could have perpetrated such an outrage? It's a complete mystery.

I thought the Amish were busy getting ready for Thanksgiving and making turducken. Guess that was just a smoke screen.

37 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:21pm

I'll be thankful if the India situation calms down

with a billion and a half people
even a small percentage being radicalized
is not a good thing

38 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:23pm

Here's a link for some news.
I don't know how often it will get updated, though.

39 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:32pm

re: #32 Wishing

The lady reporting on IBN has last name of Gupta...I wonder if she is related to Dr Gupta of Cnn/medical embed,Iraq, fame?

Gupta is fairly common...like Smith or Jones.

40 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:41pm

re: #33 NJDhockeyfan

Howdy!

I'm at a Toyota dealership and working long hours now. I miss my daily LGF time at work. I still read LGF from time to time but rarely get to come on.

Have I missed anything significant in the past 3 months?

Actually you have missed quite a bit. Senior Lizards bashing sockpuppets and trolls, the Karma deal and THE ELECTION.

41 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:54pm

re: #11 livefreeor die

Amen to that. Has Barry even released a statement on this yet?

Given what you now know of the Obamanation, what on earth would you expect him to say that might be of relevance?

'Cause I suspect that this, too, is above his pay grade.

42 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:47:57pm

re: #14 joecitizen

perhaps realizing he doesn't REALLY have any power yet?

I would think he'd be getting the picture that the world is full of bad guys who are not fooling around. They don't want to talk, they don't want to befriends, they don't want to be understood, they want to kill you.

Prayers for the victims and their loved ones.

May the bad guys rot in hell.

43 pat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:09pm

10 have reportedly been caught alive. What is the deal with that? Martyr Interruptus, aka cowardice?

44 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:10pm

re: #34 bellamags

Hey loflyer - how many times in your life have you said "Alan you are a dumbass?" (colmes)

Dick Morris as much as called Colmes a dumbass last month.

45 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:24pm

re: #32 Wishing

Probably not. Gupta is a fairly common name in India.

Kinda like Smith in England.

46 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:32pm

re: #40 bellamags

Karma deal?

47 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:48pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Dick Morris as much as called Colmes a dumbass last month.

I love Dick... Morris. he he he.

48 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:52pm

re: #36 livefreeor die

I thought the Amish were busy getting ready for Thanksgiving and making turducken. Guess that was just a smoke screen.

Seen leaving the scene, search underway...

49 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:48:57pm

re: #34 bellamags

Hey loflyer - how many times in your life have you said "Alan you are a dumbass?" (colmes)

Lost count years ago, mate! Actually I think I said "Alan you ignorant slut!"

50 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:04pm

re: #28 whiterasta

I hope the Indians capture a few of them alive...

If they do, water boarding will be a dream compared to what the prisoners will get.

51 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:05pm

re: #43 pat

10 have reportedly been caught alive. What is the deal with that? Martyr Interruptus, aka cowardice?

Given the likely interrogations they're about to experience, they'll wish they had blown themselves up already.

52 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:13pm

re: #43 pat

10 have reportedly been caught alive. What is the deal with that? Martyr Interruptus, aka cowardice?

Whatever it is, India should hang them, publicly.

53 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:20pm

God, please God, give them strength and courage in Nariman House.

54 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:21pm

Concerning the numerous "bailouts" - have you noticed the term "corporate welfare" seems to have disappeared? Let's bring it back!

55 sadhu  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:34pm

IBN has best coverage right now -- gunfire at Nariman house :
[Link: ibnlive.in.com...]

56 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:46pm

re: #46 NJDhockeyfan

Karma deal?

Click on your avatar and it will give you your karma score. It totals how many updings minus downdings you have.

57 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:51pm

re: #33 NJDhockeyfan

Howdy!

I'm at a Toyota dealership and working long hours now. I miss my daily LGF time at work. I still read LGF from time to time but rarely get to come on.

Have I missed anything significant in the past 3 months?

There was this election?

58 Sunlight  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:49:54pm

IBN showing police standing around outside Nariman House (Chabad) as 10 - 20 shots fired over time inside...

59 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:00pm

OK... so the Indian commentator called the arriving commandos the best in India and possibly the world. Well, they ain't no Delta. Hopefully they are pretty good.

60 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:05pm

re: #4 whiterasta

Thanks, man. You f'ers are alright, right?

61 joecitizen  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:08pm

re: #28 whiterasta

I hope the Indians capture a few of them alive...

that would be a beautifully useful thing...

62 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:10pm

re: #43 pat

10 have reportedly been caught alive. What is the deal with that? Martyr Interruptus, aka cowardice?

I predict all 10 will either commit suicide or die while trying to escape.

63 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:22pm

re: #58 Sunlight

IBN showing police standing around outside Nariman House (Chabad) as 10 - 20 shots fired over time inside...

Good Lord, this isn't ending.

64 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:25pm

re: #49 LoFlyer

Lost count years ago, mate! Actually I think I said "Alan you ignorant slut!"

LOL

65 Opinionated  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:25pm

re: #26 sbvft contributor

Hugh Hewitt was playing a clip of some dope reporter from CNN trying to pin the blame on the Great Satan. Saying we're mean to Muslims or something. Good Lord - I really despise our media.

The Great Satan is no longer an excuse now that we have elected the Great Obama.

66 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:29pm

NDTV was just talking someone in the Taj, but the line was cut.

67 stevieray  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:51pm

re: #17 bellamags

Still image on Fox of one of the terrorists. Young dude.

Fits what Jawa is reporting. Deccan Mujahadeen is an offshoot of SIMI (Students' Islamic Movement of India).

68 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:58pm

re: #33 NJDhockeyfan

Howdy!

I'm at a Toyota dealership and working long hours now. I miss my daily LGF time at work. I still read LGF from time to time but rarely get to come on.

Have I missed anything significant in the past 3 months?

How's business been? Enough to keep you going?

69 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:50:59pm

re: #50 3 wood

Electro-Dental interrogation comes to mind...

70 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:51:01pm

re: #14 joecitizen

these fuckers in mumbai aren't finished yet, it seems..this could get much worse..how's that little feller obama doin' on this, so far? perhaps realizing he doesn't REALLY have any power yet?

he does indeed have power
the power to incite these people to do harm to us

look at the Russians building a wall in Georgia
sending a naval contingent to Venezuela
beefing up support to Cuba

China - cyber attacking the Pentagon

Pakistani's - enraged over Hellfire strikes

the market and consumer confidence

no, he has power
the power to really muck things up

just hope he doesn't do something stupid

/but the media would cover for him anyway

71 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:51:22pm

re: #63 livefreeor die

Good Lord, this isn't ending.


/even when it does end this will be far from over

72 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:00pm

re: #63 livefreeor die

Good Lord, this isn't ending.


Commandos on their way.
The attack is about to begin.

It's gonna get ugly

73 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:11pm

re: #65 Opinionated

The Great Satan is no longer an excuse now that we have elected the Great Obama lil' Barry.

Fixed.

74 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:42pm

re: #72 Shug

Commandos on their way.
The attack is about to begin.

It's gonna get ugly

So, has the UN sprung into action?

75 ozymandias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:52:55pm

just wanted you to know that the folks at littlegreenfootballs, i think, got a vote in the coleman-franken election. check out the disputed ballot at [Link: www.startribune.com...]

photo 7.

76 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:08pm

re: #17 bellamags

Still image on Fox of one of the terrorists. Young dude.

Jihadi cannon fodder. I'm not at all surprised.

77 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:20pm

re: #74 livefreeor die

So, has the UN sprung into action?

No, the Indian Army and keep in mind, they still have Gurkhas.

78 irongrampa  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:23pm

This could get real sticky, if any Americans are hostages. Has anyone heard if this is so?

79 Sunlight  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:41pm

They need special ops (Indian, Israeli, U.S.) to flush out these a$$holes. The beat cops are not equipped (no helmets, no vests).

80 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:48pm

re: #56 bellamags

Click on your avatar and it will give you your karma score. It totals how many updings minus downdings you have.

My Karma score is 2378...what does that mean?

81 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:53:59pm

re: #74 livefreeor die

So, has the UN sprung into action?


Yes. they are meeting over martinis, cigars, and hookers.
A carefully worded letter Blaming Israel is on it's way

82 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:21pm

re: #78 irongrampa

This could get real sticky, if any Americans are hostages. Has anyone heard if this is so?

yes there are some American's held hostage
hopefully none holding a red passport

those are worth triple the points of regular citizens to them

83 CynicalConservative  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:39pm

re: #80 NJDhockeyfan

My Karma score is 2378...what does that mean?

Means you're ding'y

/dings too much

84 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:54:48pm

re: #80 NJDhockeyfan

My Karma score is 2378...what does that mean?

That is your total updings minus downdings you have received from other members.

85 golly_wog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:00pm

Did anyone just see Deepak Chopra on Larry King? I'm so mad I could spit nails at him.

86 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:06pm

re: #80 NJDhockeyfan

My Karma score is 2378...what does that mean?

It means we like you mate! Mine is -138...

87 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:07pm

re: #73 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

With all due respect, I would at least give President Elect Obama the chance of being President, first before passing judgment on him.

88 irongrampa  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:44pm

re: #82 Adrenalyn

Crap. Then I trust the indians won't balk at any assistance we can give.

89 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:47pm

re: #74 livefreeor die

So, has the UN sprung into action?

Yes - they're considering a resolution condemning the holding of the Iranian hostages during Carter's administration.

90 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:47pm

re: #80 NJDhockeyfan

My Karma score is 2378...what does that mean?


It means you aren't wearing enough foil

91 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:53pm

re: #82 Adrenalyn

yes there are some American's held hostage
hopefully none holding a red passport

those are worth triple the points of regular citizens to them

What does a red passport mean?

92 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:56pm

re: #78 irongrampa

This could get real sticky, if any Americans are hostages. Has anyone heard if this is so?

Nobody knows yet.

93 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:55:58pm

re: #87 whiterasta

With all due respect, I would at least give President Elect Obama the chance of being President, first before passing judgment on him.

I think he is referencing his lack of experience.

94 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:06pm

re: #63 livefreeor die

IBN said they found a boat at the Gateway filled with high explosives. There is no way to predict how many more of this group is still in the city.
No, This is not over.
There has been no contact from inside the Chabad for hours.
Pray for their safety. Pray for this to end by the hands of the NSG soon.

95 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:23pm

re: #85 golly_wog

Did anyone just see Deepak Chopra on Larry King? I'm so mad I could spit nails at him.

Wait - Larry King is still on the air? I thought he died years ago.

96 Karridine  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:32pm

re: #21 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Frankly, Barry should keep his mouth shut and let the adults handle things... he'll get plenty of time to screw things up after being sworn in.

IF he gets sworn in!

The MSM is maintaining a full blackout on the Keynes lawsuit but sooner or later it will break. He's GOTTEN the vote, now step forward and produce the required documentation.

Unless and until such documentation is produced, to Judge David Souter's satisfaction in his Writ of Certiorari, Obama cannot assume the presidency. The MSM is muffling this, hoping that it will silently pass, somehow, without revealing Obama's nakedness in some way, but with two lawsuits now pending, somethings going to POP before Dec 2

97 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:50pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

What does a red passport mean?

Military

98 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:56:57pm

re: #89 gmsc

Yes - they're considering a resolution condemning the holding of the Iranian hostages during Carter's administration.

You mean condemning the US for getting the hostages freed.
The UN won't condemn any Muslims, except for those who support Israel's right to exist.

99 sbvft contributor  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:06pm
Did anyone just see Deepak Chopra on Larry King? I'm so mad I could spit nails at him.

Did he blamed the Great Satan? Bush? Sarah Palin?

100 sadhu  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:32pm

re: #85 golly_wog

Did anyone just see Deepak Chopra on Larry King? I'm so mad I could spit nails at him.

I know him personally, he's a complete moonbat fame seeking ass and I look forward to telling him so directly next time I see him.

101 golly_wog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:36pm

In general, he was apologizing for the a*** and equating the west with terrorists. King just looks dead, I thought I was watching a late night horror show.

102 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:43pm

re: #88 irongrampa

Crap. Then I trust the indians won't balk at any assistance we can give.

Hopefully not. Our forensics people could be of great use in a case like this.

103 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:47pm

re: #68 jcm

How's business been? Enough to keep you going?

Barely. We have good days and bad days. The domestic cars dealers are having a really bad time. One of my customers told me today he knows one of the Chevy dealer owners. He said Chevy stopped paying the dealers for the 'Cash back' specials on their vehicles. So if you buy something with, say, $3000 cash back, the dealer has to eat it for now. He doesn't see how they can stay open very long losing money on every deal like that.

104 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:57:51pm

re: #97 Nevergiveup

Diplomatic

105 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:01pm

re: #87 whiterasta

Nope. Your choice, not mine. I don't have to stand in front of an on-coming truck to know its gonna hurt a lot.

106 Sunlight  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:03pm

re: #94 notutopia

IBN said they found a boat at the Gateway filled with high explosives. There is no way to predict how many more of this group is still in the city.
No, This is not over.
There has been no contact from inside the Chabad for hours.
Pray for their safety. Pray for this to end by the hands of the NSG soon.

But on the IBN live feed, single shots are being fired inside Chabad's Nariman House. Makes me feel sick (literally).

107 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:03pm

This ain't over. They have no idea how many terrrorists are involved.

Could very well be waiting for another wave.

108 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:18pm

re: #97 Nevergiveup

Military

Thank you.

109 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:23pm

re: #98 Kosh's Shadow

You mean condemning the US for getting the hostages freed.
The UN won't condemn any Muslims, except for those who support Israel's right to exist.

I stand corrected.

/Thanks to the orthopedic shoes

110 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:31pm

Any word on Astronomer20's friends and family in India?

111 SteveC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:31pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

What does a red passport mean?

American Diplomat, I think.

112 Basho  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:40pm

Curse NDTV. I'm listening passively and then I hear gunshots and I'm thinking "WTF?!?", but it turns out they're just replaying footage while everyone is talking. I jumped 3 times. They gotta stop doing that.

113 golly_wog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:43pm

Well trod on his instep for me will ya?

I know him personally, he's a complete moonbat fame seeking ass and I look forward to telling him so directly next time I see him.

114 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:49pm

re: #87 whiterasta

With all due respect, I would at least give President Elect Obama the chance of being President, first before passing judgment on him.

Arrr! that's been my biggest complaint lately. Too many people hammering Obama before he has done anything. We have to give him a chance...We can always hammer him later if he doesn't produce the miracles he was claiming in the election.

115 2SoonOld2LateSmart  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:52pm

A wish for a safe and happy thanksgiving day to our friends in the USA from Canada.

Waterton-Glacier International Peace Park

116 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:58:59pm

re: #90 Shug

It means you aren't wearing enough foil

Ahhh...good answer!

117 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:00pm

In the days since Osama has been elected, we've seen the Soviets sail their ships into the Western Hemisphere, threats made against our public transit systems, and now a significant terror attack in India. Coincidence? I think not. Hold on to your flak-jackets everyone, it's gonna get rough - and I don't mean the economy.

118 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:09pm

re: #98 Kosh's Shadow

You mean condemning the US for getting the hostages freed.
The UN won't condemn any Muslims, except for those who support Israel's right to exist.

An oxymoron isnt it?

119 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:15pm

re: #107 Yankee Zionist

This ain't over. They have no idea how many terrrorists are involved.

Could very well be waiting for another wave.

Indeed. Those renewed fires at the Taji could be follow-on charges.

120 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:19pm

re: #104 whiterasta

Diplomatic

Well a government paasport yes- can be either military or diplomatic.

121 grahamski  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:28pm

Have a great Thanksgiving everyone !

Sitting down to a take-out Chinese dinner because my girlfriend has taken over my kitchen for the Thanksgiving meal preparations...She is scaring me with that baster...LOL.

122 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 6:59:30pm

re: #112 Basho

Curse NDTV. I'm listening passively and then I hear gunshots and I'm thinking "WTF?!?", but it turns out they're just replaying footage while everyone is talking. I jumped 3 times. They gotta stop doing that.

I've gotten to where, when I hear gunshots from the feed, I can recognize the pattern of the 12 shots. If I don't hear them in that pattern, I switch over to the video feed.

123 ozymandias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:09pm

re: #101 golly_wog

King just looks dead, I thought I was watching a late night horror show.

Uggh domestic bliss. his wife was frigging his kids trainer. i know its true, i read it in the Inquirer.

124 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:41pm

re: #114 LoFlyer

My point, exactly!

125 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:00:51pm

Commandos arriving...

126 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:01:02pm

04:44 U.S. Sec. of State Rice briefs Obama on Mumbai attacks (Reuters)

The blind leading the blind?

127 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:01:04pm

re: #123 ozymandias

Uggh domestic bliss. his wife was frigging his kids trainer. i know its true, i read it in the Inquirer.

Smack! (for spreading gossip)

128 least  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:01:40pm

Islamicists never give up - - their world-view is that nobody but their moon god counts. Nobody.

129 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:04pm

re: #125 Flying Dutchman

Commandos arriving...

May those commandos strike swiftly and accurately. May God crown their arms with victory.

130 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:10pm

re: #125 Flying Dutchman

Commandos arriving...

Where?

131 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:22pm

re: #106 Sunlight

{Sunlight} I too am sickened by this atrocity.

132 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:32pm

re: #126 Nevergiveup

04:44 U.S. Sec. of State Rice briefs Obama on Mumbai attacks (Reuters)

The blind leading the blind?

04:54 Obama offers to sit down with terrorists and negotiate.

133 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:40pm

BRB.

134 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:02:47pm
135 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:00pm

re: #75 ozymandias

Let me guess, "Lizard People?"

That vote was cast by some idiot stoner from Bemidji (sometimes pronounced locally as, 'Bermidji'). Read an interview with the idiot. He and his friend came up with it as a statement of rejection of the assembled candidates, more or less. From my experience, I reckon they were firing up the bong at the time.

136 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:03:09pm

re: #85 golly_wog

Did anyone just see Deepak Chopra on Larry King? I'm so mad I could spit nails at him.


what did he say? Not that I ever give a care what he says, but you've sparked my curiosity

137 tackle  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:03pm

Any news regarding the families in the the Chabad House?

138 sbvft contributor  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:10pm

04:44 U.S. Sec. of State Rice briefs Obama on Mumbai attacks (Reuters)

Can't wait til she's gone. I like her as a person and all, but she was a lousy SoS. Women should not be SoSs. We need big scary dudes who have waged war and know how to blow up stuff, kill people. Just sayin.

139 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:17pm

It will take any military unit several hours to collect intel and come up with a plan of action.

The terrorists seem to be in several locations. This is a complex thing to handle.

140 Mich-again  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:41pm

Thankful for lots of things here. The family, our health, job, friends, this great Country, my Les Paul, this place.. Blessed indeed.

141 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:56pm

I went over to Kos to see what they were saying about the Mumbai attack, this is the only thing I found: "I will stand up for Islam today!" [Link: www.dailykos.com...] This one is a real genius, the money quote..."I am a person in contemplation. Therefore, there is much I would feel that I don't know right now." Apparently they cant be bothered with terrorism while plotting the new utopia.

142 golly_wog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:04:57pm

re: #136 Shug

what did he say? Not that I ever give a care what he says, but you've sparked my curiosity

Sorry, it would take to long to go into it, but I pretty much paraphrased it above. It was high moonbatspeak of the first order.

143 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:01pm

re: #14 joecitizen

these fuckers in mumbai aren't finished yet, it seems..this could get much worse..how's that little feller obama doin' on this, so far? perhaps realizing he doesn't REALLY have any power yet?

He just crapped his pants. 'oh my goodness - terrorism might be real.'

144 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:08pm

re: #139 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It will take any military unit several hours to collect intel and come up with a plan of action.

The terrorists seem to be in several locations. This is a complex thing to handle.

Have they said how many terrorists were necessary to pull these attacks off?

145 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:22pm

re: #137 tackle

The last was that single shots were heard from the House.

146 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:27pm

Trident Hotel is "under siege"

147 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:28pm

re: #32 Wishing

Dr. Gupta was on CNN an hour or so ago -- he noted that whenever he was in Mumbai, he could enter the hotels freely (without security checks). Also there was a report from CNN about an American stranded in a hotel room stating that within 20 minutes of the initial attack, Mumbai's chief of police heading up the anti-terrorist squad, Hemant Karkare, was dead. Another top counter-terrorism officer was also killed. These two were considered the heroes of Mumbai (due to their counter-terrorism efforts prior to the current attack).

148 sadhu  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:33pm

best live right now is IBN -- hostages in Trident
[Link: ibnlive.in.com...]

149 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:05:59pm
150 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:04pm

I wish President ACTUAL Bush's mother, Former First Lady Barbara Bush, a speedy recovery from her surgery. As if President Bush needs any more worries these last few weeks, after 8 years of non-stop global troubles with which he's struggled valiantly to keep us from harm's way.

Talk about having a stiff upper lip, what good public servants they have been, compared to the current lot.

151 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:08pm

Mumbai context post:

Mumbai (the city proper) is roughly the same size as Chicago (the city proper), but with more than 4 times as many people as Chicago (the city proper). With 13,662,885 people, it's the most populous city proper in the world.

Another way to think of Mumbai (the city proper) is that it's size is 25% smaller than New York City (the city proper), but with 65% more people than NYC!

Mumbai's time zone is +5:30 UTC (GMT + 5.5 hours).

152 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:23pm

re: #128 least

Islamicists Free peoplenever give up - - their world-view is that nobody everybody but their moon god counts should enjoy the same freedom they enjoy. Nobody everybody.


Fixed that for you

153 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:25pm

re: #137 tackle

Any news regarding the families in the the Chabad House?

A few minutes ago, they said that police were outside the Nariman House, that several shots were JUST fired. There are police outside the only entrance, but they are waiting for the NSG to arrive.

154 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:32pm

re: #141 MrPaulRevere

I went over to Kos to see what they were saying about the Mumbai attack, this is the only thing I found: "I will stand up for Islam today!" [Link: www.dailykos.com...] This one is a real genius, the money quote..."I am a person in contemplation. Therefore, there is much I would feel that I don't know right now." Apparently they cant be bothered with terrorism while plotting the new utopia.


Sounds like they've got "voting Present" down.

155 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:49pm

re: #130 LoFlyer

Where?

IBN

156 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:54pm

re: #138 sbvft contributor

We need big scary dudes who have waged war and know how to blow up stuff, kill people. Just sayin.

Hillary is big and scary but I don't think she'd blow anythin...

ahem. ...never mind...

157 garycooper  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:06:58pm

These definitely aren't suicide-martyr types. They're in it to stay in the fight, and keep on killing as long as possible.

158 Sunlight  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:02pm

IBN has a good point that they can't say much because the terrorists are probably watching TV to see what the govt is doing.

159 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:14pm

re: #144 livefreeor die

Have they said how many terrorists were necessary to pull these attacks off?

I doubt anybody even has a good guess.

The map Fox just showed had 8 locations tagged.

Key-rrristt!

What a friggin nightmare... the commanders on the scene better have eaten their Wheaties.

160 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:20pm

re: #137 tackle

Any news regarding the families in the the Chabad House?

Everything I have heard is bad. Only thing I have heard was that terrorists are shooting the Jews. Hope they are wrong, mate.

161 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:27pm

Is the Times of India a conservative newspaper?

Check out these comments...

[Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]

162 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:30pm

re: #155 Flying Dutchman

IBN

Here : [Link: ibnlive.in.com...]

163 Opinionated  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:43pm

re: #126 Nevergiveup

04:44 U.S. Sec. of State Rice briefs Obama on Mumbai attacks (Reuters)

The blind leading the blind?

This is where it really hits you.

Our national security is going into the hands of someone who has zero national security experience and is naively bent to bring peace through appeasement.

164 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:07:50pm

re: #141 MrPaulRevere

I went over to Kos to see what they were saying about the Mumbai attack, this is the only thing I found: "I will stand up for Islam today!" [Link: www.dailykos.com...] This one is a real genius, the money quote..."I am a person in contemplation. Therefore, there is much I would feel that I don't know right now." Apparently they cant be bothered with terrorism while plotting the new utopia.

The hard left cannot admit that terrorism exists. Their wittle paranoid self-centered world view won't allow it. Plus - most Kidz probably suffer some level of paranoid schizophrenia revolving around their hatred of George Bush.

165 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:12pm

For those who missed the live link:
IBN

166 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:18pm
167 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:31pm

re: #85 golly_wog

Yes. I saw him on Larry King...Chopra is dearly loved by most Canadians...

168 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:08:41pm

36lbs of charcoal.
5lbs of apple wood chips.
12 hours
=1 smoked turkey to take to Grandma's tomorrow.

169 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:25pm

re: #85 golly_wog

Did anyone just see Deepak Chopra on Larry King? I'm so mad I could spit nails at him.

Chopra is a jackass.

170 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:33pm

Frankly, I wish IBN would stop reporting all the details of police movements. I appreciate being kept informed. I'm sure the terrorists appreciate being kept informed. These media fools are going to get innocent people killed.

171 RondinellaMamma  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:36pm

May God bless & keep safe all you Lizards (...um, and the rest of the country..too).

172 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:45pm

NSG operations have begun.

173 LEGION  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:47pm

Grooovvvyyy

174 sadhu  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:09:51pm

Indian NSG operations beginning

175 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:10pm
176 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:12pm

re: #171 RondinellaMamma

May God bless & keep safe all you Lizards (...um, and the rest of the country..too).

Thank you and welcome to LGF!

177 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:16pm

Military vehicles have entered south Mumbai, and are starting to secure the area, including telling people to leave the area.

178 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:17pm

I so despise these thugs, cowards.
The NSG has begun a gun fight I guess in the Nariman House.

179 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:19pm

There are two working live feeds (for me)
IBN
NDTV

180 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:19pm

re: #157 garycooper

These definitely aren't suicide-martyr types. They're in it to stay in the fight, and keep on killing as long as possible.

That is why I posted a few hours ago that I felt chilled at the thought that this could be a diversion...

181 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:27pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

What does a red passport mean?

it denotes special status
up to diplomatic immunity

yeah, get caught holding one of those and the terrorists would go ape-shit
or if islamic, goat-shit

182 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:42pm

re: #168 jcm

Okay. I've expressed my distaste for turkey here before, but sounds tasty.

183 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:44pm

re: #114 LoFlyer

Arrr! that's been my biggest complaint lately. Too many people hammering Obama before he has done anything. We have to give him a chance...We can always hammer him later if he doesn't produce the miracles he was claiming in the election.

* * *
Agreed. The American people have spoken and though I don't like the outcome, I will try to be loyal opposition for the sake of my country. We have to find the positives and work like crazy to keep the crazier ideas from becoming the law of the land.

We need to be positive and be seen to be positive, not a drag on the country. We clearly need to do a better job getting our positive message out & UNDERSTOOD & believed by more Americans.

184 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:46pm

re: #166 Iron Fist

I doubt anyone could have done any better than Rice. There's too much entrenched bullshit at State for anyone to be able to clean it out. You have to play the hand you are dealt. Wishful thinking isn't going to turn a busted flush into four aces, no matter how skilled the player is.

Well I think she is doing a particularly lousy job, but your main point about the cesspool that is the State department is well put. So why is Hilliary even thinking About that Job? Serious question. I don't get it?

185 golly_wog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:53pm

re: #169 FrogMarch

Chopra is a jackass.

A platinum one with triple laurels.

186 CynicalConservative  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:10:53pm

re: #158 Sunlight

IBN has a good point that they can't say much because the terrorists are probably watching TV to see what the govt is doing.

huh, never stopped the idiots in our msm

187 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:06pm

re: #170 Neo Con since 9-11

Frankly, I wish IBN would stop reporting all the details of police movements. I appreciate being kept informed. I'm sure the terrorists appreciate being kept informed. These media fools are going to get innocent people killed.

what ?
the name Geraldo ring a bell
the poster boy for giving away locations

188 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:21pm

I worked in Alaska with a guy named Sadhu a long time ago.

189 sbvft contributor  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:29pm

re: #166 Iron Fist

I doubt anyone could have done any better than Rice. There's too much entrenched bullshit at State for anyone to be able to clean it out. You have to play the hand you are dealt. Wishful thinking isn't going to turn a busted flush into four aces, no matter how skilled the player is.

True. Career Liberals have infected all levels of government. Especially Foggy Bottom. They are like a cancer.

190 irongrampa  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:29pm

Time for the old folk. Have a great Thanksgiving, good people, and say a prayer for our troops.

191 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:34pm

Fresh gun fire at Oberoi

192 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:11:46pm

re: #170 Neo Con since 9-11

Indeed. But, then, that would require a certain state of organization...

193 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:06pm

re: #179 Flying Dutchman

There are two working live feeds (for me)
IBN
NDTV

That IBN video link is streaming, but isn't live. The NDTV link is live, however.

194 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:06pm

re: #160 LoFlyer

Everything I have heard is bad. Only thing I have heard was that terrorists are shooting the Jews. Hope they are wrong, mate.

where'd you hear that?

195 Opinionated  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:11pm

re: #175 Iron Fist

Bingo! And Obama is probably more worried about you or I owning an AK-47 than he is al Qaeda owning a backpack nuke. We're so screwed.

I wonder if there are any Obama voters tonight asking thelselves -"What could I have been thinking?"

196 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:15pm

re: #164 FrogMarch

100% correct, they are in deep denial, its hardwired into their political DNA.They think even mentioning the subject is a 'right wing' thing. We can only hope there are some leftists who will awaken, like David Horowitz did.

197 livefreeor die  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:17pm

Well, I better go finish getting ready for tomorrow.
Stay safe everyone.

198 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:39pm

re: #191 Flying Dutchman

Fresh gun fire at Oberoi

Let's hope it's the good guys firing.

199 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:41pm

re: #192 J.S.

Indeed. But, then, that would require a certain state of organization...

Unfortunately, organization is the thing these terrorists seem to have.

200 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:41pm

IBN stating that 10 terrorists entered the Oberoi Hotel and were asking specifically for Foreign Passport holders...Americans, UK, and there is live gunfire heard in the building, Army (1/3rd of the force) is entering the building now, more gunfire heard... this is going to go on for many more hours...
There is people waving for help from balcony windows...

201 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:43pm

Meanwhile in Egypt...20,000 member of the RoP greet Coptic Christians with stones & gas cylinders...

One thousand Christians were today trapped inside the Coptic Orthodox Church of the Virgin Mary in West Ain Shams,Cairo, after more than twenty thousand Muslims attacked them with stones and butane gas cylinders. The Church's priest Father Antonious said that the situation is extremely dangerous.

202 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:12:58pm

This is just terrible.

203 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:13:24pm

re: #193 gmsc

That IBN video link is streaming, but isn't live. The NDTV link is live, however.

For me it looks like both are live (almost)

204 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:02pm

I always find it amazing that somebody's "god" is telling them to do this stuff.

205 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:04pm

re: #185 golly_wog

A platinum one with triple laurels.

Yes. he wrote something lame and emotionalist and typical-- showering his love and praise onto Barack - while taking a tired phyco-babble crap on evil John McCain. The bastard has made all sorts of money pedaling tripe.
I detest him.

206 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:19pm

re: #187 Adrenalyn

what ?
the name Geraldo ring a bell
the poster boy for giving away locations

I thought Gerry Rivers should have been tried for treason for that. Heck, I thought our troops showed remarkable restraint to not shoot him half way through his infamous monologue.

207 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:21pm

re: #138 sbvft contributor

04:44 U.S. Sec. of State Rice briefs Obama on Mumbai attacks (Reuters)

Can't wait til she's gone. I like her as a person and all, but she was a lousy SoS. Women should not be SoSs. We need big scary dudes who have waged war and know how to blow up stuff, kill people. Just sayin.

* * *
Hang on, Baby, Hillary's coming! Move over, "Let's make beautiful music" piano playing Condoleeza.

Remember toward the end of the democrats' primaries, Obama joked that Hillary had become a regular Annie Oakley, throwing back shots & talking about shooting back in Scranton, PA!

Hillary Clinton will put the fear of Allah in those mullahs. I can always hope.

208 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:37pm

re: #194 funky chicken

where'd you hear that?

On one of the other threads.

209 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:14:43pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. The terrorists are armed, prepared, coordinated, (probably well funded to boot) while the counter terrorism forces are...(?)...doing their very best under the circumstances.

210 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:38pm

re: #198 Noam Sayin'

Let's hope it's the good bad guys firing getting hit.


Better ?

211 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:38pm

re: #203 Flying Dutchman

For me it looks like both are live (almost)

They seem to update it about every 15-20 minutes. Everytime I reload it, it begins at the same exact footage, unless they update it.

212 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:50pm

CNN reporting more gunfire at Taj hotel.

213 gearhead  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:15:54pm

Interesting tidbits from a Reader's Digest article (October issue):

# Most countries polled have a neutral opinion of the U.S. government. India is the most pro-American government (31%) while Spain, Netherlands, Indonesia and Canada have the highest percent (21%, 21%, 20%, 19%) of respondents who are anti-American government.
# The majority in India (73%), South Africa (65%), the Netherlands (55%) and France (52%) would be interested in moving to the U.S. while about 70% of respondents in Poland, Russia, Indonesia, and Australia expressed a lack of interest in moving to the U.S.

France was a bit of a surprise, but India was not.

214 sadhu  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:03pm

re: #188 Yankee Zionist

I worked in Alaska with a guy named Sadhu a long time ago.

hello yank, from an honorary heebie from nj

215 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:07pm

re: #193 gmsc

That IBN video link is streaming, but isn't live. The NDTV link is live, however.

Is there a trick to getting NDTV to work? I am using Safari..but no video loads?

216 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:30pm
217 golly_wog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:56pm

re: #205 FrogMarch

Yes. he wrote something lame and emotionalist and typical-- showering his love and praise onto Barack - while taking a tired phyco-babble crap on evil John McCain. The bastard has made all sorts of money pedaling tripe.
I detest him.

He mention Obama about three times during his rant. I was appalled by what he was saying.

218 outsidephilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:16:59pm

re: #10 A Kiwi Infidel

We, here in NZ, do not celebrate Thanksgiving, but there sure a heck of a lot to be thankful for. But I will thank Charles for LGF, I thank the US for being the only deterent against the evil that is constantly trying to destroy the freedom of the West.

But mostly I thank God for all that He provides starting with the very breath in my lungs each day.

. . . , and I AMEN your sentiments!

219 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:01pm

re: #182 Noam Sayin'

Okay. I've expressed my distaste for turkey here before, but sounds tasty.

Family demands it every year now.

220 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:08pm

re: #211 gmsc

They seem to update it about every 15-20 minutes. Everytime I reload it, it begins at the same exact footage, unless they update it.

I'm watching both at the same time, many shots are the same with a few seconds delay

221 tackle  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:18pm

I am neither Indian nor Jew, but I have compassion for their awful situation. Come on NSC - get in there!

222 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:20pm

re: #209 J.S.

Exactly. The terrorists are armed, prepared, coordinated, (probably well funded to boot) while the counter terrorism forces are...(?)...doing their very best under the circumstances.

Well India is about to see a lot of check-points in the future. It's interesting that I am hearing stories the terrorists arrived by sea in Paki boats...

223 Sunlight  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:22pm

re: #193 gmsc

That IBN video link is streaming, but isn't live. The NDTV link is live, however.

I do think the IBN is live... I think they are one of those half hour time zones...

224 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:23pm

re: #210 Flying Dutchman

Better ?

Better.

Nice fix.

Upding.

225 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:46pm

re: #169 FrogMarch

Chopra is a jackass.

* * *
I'm sick of all the self-help gurus peddling their new age snake oil. Time for people to stop enriching these sheisters.

226 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:46pm

re: #87 whiterasta

With all due respect, I would at least give President Elect Obama the chance of being President, first before passing judgment on him.


With all due respect, the a$$hole should stop parading around as President-elect and acting like President Bush is not in office. Why do you have a problem passing judgment on him? He has already shown himself to be a liar, a cheat, a felon (not that he'll ever be prosecuted) and a guy with about as much class as a cockroach.

227 Worrell-Rimshot 2012!  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:17:49pm

Ambulances are moving in towards the Taj. Looks like some of the victims are going to be transported away from the scene.

228 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:18pm

re: #216 Iron Fist

Not to mention he can fire her!

229 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:26pm

re: #209 J.S.

Exactly. The terrorists are armed, prepared, coordinated, (probably well funded to boot) while the counter terrorism forces are...(?)...doing their very best under the circumstances.

And it looks like one Mumbai's top anit-terrorist officers was killed leading a counter attack. That may one of the secondary objectives of the attacks: to inflict casualties on the security forces and then claim they were able to fight the government successfully.

230 sadhu  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:34pm

I kind of like the hysterical tone the women on IBN have --- like WAKE UP WORLD

231 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:46pm

re: #216 Iron Fist

The Clintons alwasy know how to take credit. Even if it doesn't belong to them.

232 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:18:49pm

I see registration is open. Welcome hatchlings!

...remember to bring beer when you arrive.

233 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:09pm

re: #224 Noam Sayin'

Thanks' ;-)

234 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:09pm

re: #219 jcm

What do you use for a smoker? I've been thinking about buying one of those combination barrel grill/smoker combos - plenty of grill space, with the smoker box on the side...

235 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:30pm

re: #207 alegrias

Careful, we have well-meaning lizards here who are insisting we wait till, oh, New York goes up in a mushroom cloud before we stop granting these people the respect the positions they have, um, bought deserve.

236 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:40pm

re: #175 Iron Fist

These events exemplify why I will never willingly relinquish my firearms. Keep your powder dry and stock up.

237 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:45pm

re: #217 golly_wog

He mention Obama about three times during his rant. I was appalled by what he was saying.

I don't watch Larry King. what was chopra ranting about?

238 valkyrie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:19:57pm

CNN reporting that the hostages and hotel guests in the Taj Hotel have been released and are being evacuated.

239 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:00pm

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

I see registration is open. Welcome hatchlings!

...remember to bring beer when you arrive.

Yes, please join up. More anti-idiotarians are both needed and welcome.

240 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:07pm

re: #215 Wishing

Is there a trick to getting NDTV to work? I am using Safari..but no video loads?

I'm using Safari 3.2.1, with Perian, Flip4Mac and the latest version of Flash installed.

My first suggestion would be updating Flash to see if that helps.

241 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:39pm

re: #225 alegrias

* * *
I'm sick of all the self-help gurus peddling their new age snake oil. Time for people to stop enriching these sheisters.

Could not agree more.

242 snowcrash  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:20:40pm

Holiday hatchlings!

243 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:10pm

Parents arrived, I had to drop off a bit, what's the latest from Nariman?

244 gearhead  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:22pm

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

I see registration is open. Welcome hatchlings!

...remember to bring beer when you arrive.

And spring for the good stuff. A good porter will win you more friends than PBR.

Oh, and welcome.

245 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:23pm

re: #242 snowcrash

Holiday hatchlings!

Or turkeys?

246 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:24pm

re: #187 Adrenalyn

what ?
the name Geraldo ring a bell
the poster boy for giving away locations

* * *
Geraldo's crime was to be over-eager, proud & overjoyed at being WITH our troops. It was a mistake I believe.
I doubt Geraldo was trying to get our troops KILLED.

247 outsidephilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:34pm

re: #226 Irene NYC

With all due respect, the a$$hole should stop parading around as President-elect and acting like President Bush is not in office. Why do you have a problem passing judgment on him? He has already shown himself to be a liar, a cheat, a felon (not that he'll ever be prosecuted) and a guy with about as much class as a cockroach.

. . . , gotta love a New Yorker's use of the English language!
Thank you for saying, so clearly, what I've been thinking!

248 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:40pm

re: #230 sadhu

They are not "talking heads" they are affected by this atrocity occurring in their country.

249 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:48pm

If registration is open, does that mean we can register sock puppets?
;)

250 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:21:51pm

I did see Walid Shoebat on talking about LeT, is that speculation, or firm intel?

251 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:30pm

re: #211 gmsc

They seem to update it about every 15-20 minutes. Everytime I reload it, it begins at the same exact footage, unless they update it.

Both are (almost) live, look at the time stamps

252 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:31pm

re: #236 Bubbaman

These events exemplify why I will never willingly relinquish my firearms. Keep your powder dry and stock up.

Exactly! If India had a concealed carry law, the outcome tonight may have been very different.

253 Basho  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:39pm

NDTV showing exclusive footage of the boats used to sneak in...

254 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:40pm

re: #249 Irene NYC

If registration is open, does that mean we can register sock puppets?
;)


or you could register as pock suppet

255 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:22:40pm

I'd like to take a moment to let the internet it is my considered opinion that Muhamed was an f-ing murderous pedophile and those that follow his ways deserve the hell they die to.

256 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:23:36pm

re: #231 FrogMarch

The Clintons alwasy know how to take credit. Even if it doesn't belong to them.

The politics of the "economic crises" was blame McCain/Bush for the crises, whilst suppressing the huge amount of evidence that the Obama/Clinton/Democrats were the cause. They only pulled it off because of the complicity of our fracken' media.

257 golly_wog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:23:59pm

re: #237 FrogMarch

I don't watch Larry King. what was chopra ranting about?

He was pretty much saying that we are all terrorists and that it was all understandable. He also wanted to make sure there wasn't any backlash against innocent moderate Muslims etc, etc.

You just had to see it. I was too inflamed to now quote him verbatim.

258 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:10pm

Gunbattles unabated in Mumbai

A bomb is lobbed at a petrol station near Nariman House amidst reports that they are hiding in a building which reportedly houses some Jewish families.

259 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:17pm

Just considering something here for pondering. Does anyone else think this attacked was timed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, so most of the masses (other than us, of course) will be more concerned with football (two lousy games, from what I hear) and turkey, and otherwise occupied with travel arrangements?

260 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:27pm

re: #253 Basho

NDTV showing exclusive footage of the boats used to sneak in...

CNN said some terrorists escaped in government cars.

261 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:28pm

re: #235 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Careful, we have well-meaning lizards here who are insisting we wait till, oh, New York goes up in a mushroom cloud before we stop granting these people the respect the positions they have, um, bought deserve.

I resemble that mate!

262 Truck Monkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:34pm

I wonder if The Amazing Barry is going to hold a press conference about the Mumbai attacks with a podium sign saying "Office of The Commander and Chief elect"?

263 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:46pm
264 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:24:54pm

re: #237 FrogMarch

About the "poor Muslims" and how it's a war against Islam, and there's been all those Indian led genocides against Muslims, and we gotta all learn how to just get along, etc. O yeah, and "it's a world problem! not just an American problem." (whatever that means -- doesn't this jerk ever read the newspapers? Most of the terrorist attacks have been outside the U.S. -- in Mumbai 2006 there were 200 killed by terrorist train bombings.)

265 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:12pm

wow.. Hatchlings everywhere!..

266 Clemente  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:14pm

re: #206 Neo Con since 9-11

I thought Gerry Rivers should have been tried for treason for that. Heck, I thought our troops showed remarkable restraint to not shoot him half way through his infamous monologue.

At least they should have put a round into the sand, right in front of him, in his stupid little sketch:

"Hey Gerry - you are here (BANG)! Ya' DUMBASS!"

/Because first, you need to get his attention...

267 Basho  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:15pm

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

CNN said some terrorists escaped in government cars.

They apparently hijacked police vans. Not sure if they were used to stage an attack or to escape.

268 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:24pm

re: #260 NJDhockeyfan

CNN said some terrorists escaped in government cars.

Yes, they swiped some police vehicles.

269 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:27pm

re: #258 gmsc

Gunbattles unabated in Mumbai

Oh shit !

270 SteveC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:30pm

re: #255 Taqyia2Me

I'd like to take a moment to let the internet it is my considered opinion that Muhamed was an f-ing murderous pedophile and those that follow his ways deserve the hell they die to.

Your opinions are interesting and intriguing! I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!

271 Sunlight  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:32pm

Watching the video feed, I keep seeing these police guys with baseball hats on and I'm wishing we could see our troops. I remember when they deployed national guard folks in New Orleans after Katrina on combat patrols... it was people who had returned recently from Iraq... and I'm wanting the U.S. people to get their act together. I never want to see any military force deployed in our cities (not even Obama's "security corps", whatever that is). Oh, now they have some guys at the Taj with helmets and vests.

272 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:36pm
273 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:25:52pm

re: #257 golly_wog

Well, I'd like to extend a hearty invitation to Dr. Chopra to move on back to Mumbai then. He can be put in charge of "outreach" and kumbayah singing to the Muslim community there.

274 ddg-16  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:04pm

re: #161 funky chicken

Is the Times of India a conservative newspaper?

Check out these comments...

[Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]

good find.

275 Sunlight  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:20pm

re: #243 Thanos

Parents arrived, I had to drop off a bit, what's the latest from Nariman?

Single shots being heard from inside.

276 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:22pm

re: #262 Truck Monkey

One of his aides has already released a statement for him.

277 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:32pm

re: #261 LoFlyer

I resemble that mate!

I doubt it. :-)

278 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:26:49pm

re: #257 golly_wog

aha. The old "it's our fault they hate us" routine.
Tired.

279 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:42pm

re: #234 Noam Sayin'

What do you use for a smoker? I've been thinking about buying one of those combination barrel grill/smoker combos - plenty of grill space, with the smoker box on the side...

Brinkman Pitmaster, had if for years, mines a uniform rust color now. Charcoal and chips go in the firebox on the left, a pan of water in the left part of the main box, turkey in the middle. I use it was a straight BBQ also. Plank smoked salmon in the summer.

280 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:46pm

re: #277 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I doubt it. :-)

Haar!

281 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:46pm

re: #256 LoFlyer

The politics of the "economic crises" was blame McCain/Bush for the crises, whilst suppressing the huge amount of evidence that the Obama/Clinton/Democrats were the cause. They only pulled it off because of the complicity of our fracken' media.

So true. the democrats were behind the Fannie Freddie meltdown. and not a peep from our disgusting unprofessional in the tank media.

282 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:27:53pm
283 Basho  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:29pm

Intelligence source told NDTV it may be an international conspiracy planned outside India with help from inside groups...

I hate these first 24 hours...

284 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:34pm

re: #226 Irene NYC

With all due respect, the a$$hole should stop parading around as President-elect and acting like President Bush is not in office. Why do you have a problem passing judgment on him? He has already shown himself to be a liar, a cheat, a felon (not that he'll ever be prosecuted) and a guy with about as much class as a cockroach.

* * *
Yes, and we'll be calling him Mr. President Jan 20th. I just hope Obama can keep his brassy chutzpah and play hardball against the bad guys even MORE than he fought & played hard against Republicans.

Just win one for America, Mr. President Elect.
Just remember on whose side you're supposed to be.


l

285 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:38pm

re: #257 golly_wog

He was pretty much saying that we are all terrorists and that it was all understandable. He also wanted to make sure there wasn't any backlash against innocent moderate Muslims etc, etc.

You just had to see it. I was too inflamed to now quote him verbatim.

We're not terrorists now - We've elected 0bama! Everyone is going to get a free puppy that farts rainbows!

///

286 SteveC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:46pm
• The terrorists then rushed to the police station nearby where the ATS chief Hemant Karkare was shot dead along ACP Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Saluskar.

The way this reads, it sounds like these three were targeted.

287 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:48pm

re: #280 LoFlyer

Haar!

In the declarative sense, shouldn't that be

Yaar!

/hard to keep pirate dialects straight these days.

288 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:28:51pm

re: #259 Noam Sayin'

A lot of the terrorism analysts on CNN are saying just that -- that this attack was completely and precisely well timed -- to correspond to the American holiday, (along with making it a world-wide spectacle -- broadcast worldwide on every television set), as well, there are state elections coming up in India (meant, I suppose, to influence the Indian elections, etc.)

289 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:29:04pm

re: #262 Truck Monkey

I would love to see that press conference... "ah, ah, ahhh, you know, ah, we shouldn't, ah talk about this, um, ahh, yes I think that the Giants will, umm, win, ah the Superbowl."

290 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:29:47pm

re: #282 Iron Fist

Hell, hate them back.

How come their hate is valid and ours isn't?

291 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:29:58pm

re: #289 Bubbaman

I would love to see that press conference... "ah, ah, ahhh, you know, ah, we shouldn't, ah talk about this, um, ahh, yes I think that the San Francisco Giants will, umm, win, ah the Superbowl."

...just to make it more realistic.

292 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:18pm
293 snowcrash  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:33pm

Where are the hatchlings? Are the eggs defective?

294 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:35pm

re: #263 Iron Fist

No one is going to sit back an let him "eat his waffle".


Why is Obama always talking about food? Have some green beans, I had me some pie, etc.

You'd think he had an oral fixation or something.

;)

295 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:47pm

re: #259 Noam Sayin'

Just considering something here for pondering. Does anyone else think this attacked was timed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, so most of the masses (other than us, of course) will be more concerned with football (two lousy games, from what I hear) and turkey, and otherwise occupied with travel arrangements?

I don't think so.

Our Holidays mean very little in other parts of the world.

This thing looks like it was planed over a long period of time, not done at the spur of the moment.

This is happening because the animals have convinced themselves that they could pull it off.

296 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:49pm

re: #285 gmsc

We're not terrorists now - We've elected 0bama! Everyone is going to get a free puppy that farts rainbows!

///

I want a Shetland pony mate!

297 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:30:56pm

re: #292 Iron Fist

What, you don't think people with a $35K income should be able to buy half-million dollar houses? You just hate poor people, don't you?

[/sarc]

Upding, but only because you included the sarc tag!

298 gearhead  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:03pm

re: #259 Noam Sayin'

Just considering something here for pondering. Does anyone else think this attacked was timed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, so most of the masses (other than us, of course) will be more concerned with football (two lousy games, from what I hear) and turkey, and otherwise occupied with travel arrangements?

Maybe a play for TV time when they know a lot of us will be watching, combined with a chance to inflame India-Pakistan tensions and somehow relieve the pressure on them in Pakistan.

I hope India rains hell on AQ, and that Pakistan, in its own self interest, joins them.

299 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:05pm

re: #237 FrogMarch

I don't watch Larry King. what was chopra ranting about?

I'd rather have bamboo shoots shoved under my fingernails than listening to King, the Simpering Simpleton.

bbiab

300 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:11pm

re: #264 J.S.

Meanwhile - we are all still waiting for moderate Muslims to take a stand against the crazy in their midst.

301 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:18pm

re: #291 gmsc
Touche'!

302 Gitarzan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:18pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

What does a red passport mean?

Red (maroon) US passport = government employees & families/members of Congress

From Wikipedia:

Official (maroon cover)
Issuable to citizen-employees of the United States assigned overseas, either permanently or temporarily, and their eligible dependants, and to members of Congress who travel abroad on official business. Period of validity: generally five years from the date of issue..

Other US passport types: Blue = standard, black = diplomatic.

303 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:29pm

According to CNN/IBN, three people were killed after shots were heard in the area of Chabad House in Mumbai, Israel Radio reported Thursday morning.

The dead, a couple and a 16-year-old boy, were shot inside the Chabad House, the report said.

304 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:34pm

re: #292 Iron Fist

What, you don't think people with a $35K income should be able to buy half-million dollar houses? You just hate poor people, don't you?

[/sarc]

What about people with no income? They need to own houses, too, you know.
//

305 keeping it simple  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:44pm

Newly hatched. Thanks for letting me in.

I am very sad for the good folks in India. Heartbreaking news. Blessings on all those who fight terrorism. Wish I could help.

306 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:46pm
307 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:48pm

I'm pretty much glued to the live feed Charles linked to earlier, but I did step away to make a pecan pie.

Have the commandos taken the Nariman House yet?

308 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:51pm

re: #258 gmsc

Gunbattles unabated in Mumbai

A boat full of explosives was found on the waterfront near the Gateway of India.

Yikes!

309 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:54pm

re: #296 LoFlyer

I want a Shetland pony mate!

You'll make do with the three legged unicorn like everyone else, comrade.

310 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:31:59pm

re: #287 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In the declarative sense, shouldn't that be

Yaar!

/hard to keep pirate dialects straight these days.

I just alternate between Haaar, Yaaar and Arrr! It seems to work most of the time...

311 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:01pm

re: #286 SteveC

Agreed. They were well intelled and are well armed and are tactically placed in a circular geographical pattern. They have also accomplished closing the financial markets.

312 Basho  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:18pm

re: #295 Syrah

Our Holidays mean very little in other parts of the world.

Since the terrorists were looking for American tourists in the hotels, it isn't too farfetched to think they attacked during a US holiday.

313 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:21pm

re: #275 Sunlight

Single shots being heard from inside.

Thanks, that does not sound good.

314 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:34pm
315 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:34pm

update from NDTV...

speculation surrounds "international conspiracy" and Mumbai underworld, with involvement of Pakistani Intelligence...

316 Worrell-Rimshot 2012!  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:45pm

NDTV reported that about 5-8 terrorists are on the loose in the city.

317 gearhead  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:58pm

re: #296 LoFlyer

I want a Shetland pony mate!

Is your current Shetland pony lonely?

;-)

318 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:32:59pm

re: #286 SteveC

The way this reads, it sounds like these three were targeted.

Disruption warfare. the idea "Behead the snake and the body will wither" can be applied to us in the same way as it can be to the terrorists.

319 outsidephilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:33:01pm

re: #305 keeping it simple

Newly hatched. Thanks for letting me in.

I am very sad for the good folks in India. Heartbreaking news. Blessings on all those who fight terrorism. Wish I could help.

Welcome. And yes, the happenings in India are so very sad . . ..

320 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:33:03pm

back on,
just took the C train home, passing MSG/Penn station on the way, train was unusually crowded, because of the Macy parade, balloon inflation act here on the UWA.
Wow, this is the third open registration in a week, I think. Did I miss some action?

321 Truck Monkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:33:03pm

re: #285 gmsc

We're not terrorists now - We've elected 0bama! Everyone is going to get a free puppy that farts rainbows!

///

What good are rainbows? I want two puppies. One that farts gumdrops and the other that farts lollipops!

322 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:33:10pm
323 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:33:43pm

Remember that India has been the only Navy to have taken on the Pirates of Somalia and sunk one of their ships...No E.U./U.N. BS there.

324 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:33:48pm

So, I found out that my cousin (who travels a LOT for her job) has been a frequent guest at the Taj. Fortunately, she's safely at home now.

325 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:07pm

also...

5 Israeli's reported hostage...

Also...Chabad Rabbi and his wife are reported missing

326 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:23pm

re: #256 LoFlyer

The politics of the "economic crises" was blame McCain/Bush for the crises, whilst suppressing the huge amount of evidence that the Obama/Clinton/Democrats were the cause. They only pulled it off because of the complicity of our fracken' media.

* * *
It seems the Carter era Community Reinvestment Act and several Fed Reserve Chairmen and Treasury Secretaries and Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac leaders IGNORED what articially legislating & messing with supply & demand was bringing about--that HUGE BALLOON of a Housing boom, now mortgage crisis.

Even conservative economists like Alan Greenspan only blabbed about "irrational exhuberance" instead of coming out AGAINST some of these crappy socialist handout policies we're all paying for now.

327 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:30pm

re: #303 Nevergiveup

Bastards! This is not some new Deccan group. Just a new name.

328 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:32pm
329 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:34pm

re: #305 keeping it simple

Newly hatched. Thanks for letting me in.

I am very sad for the good folks in India. Heartbreaking news. Blessings on all those who fight terrorism. Wish I could help.

That's a good start mate. Welcome aboard!
/Got any grog?

330 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:49pm

re: #292 Iron Fist

What, you don't think people with a $35K income should be able to buy half-million dollar houses? You just hate poor people, don't you?

[/sarc]


That's me - financial reality bigot.
Not only that - but Jamie Gorelick and Franklin Raines ciphered millions prior to the collapse.. and Barney Frank said "nothing to see here - move along"..
/How dare we get upset about that.

331 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:54pm

re: #295 Syrah

I don't think so.

Our Holidays mean very little in other parts of the world.

This thing looks like it was planed over a long period of time, not done at the spur of the moment.

This is happening because the animals have convinced themselves that they could pull it off.

OK.

I will give on that. They may have thought it a more target rich time frame.

But I still have my doubts that they would no much of anything about our Thanksgiving habits and traditions.

332 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:34:57pm

Commandos enter Taj, Oberoi; Nariman House in Colaba

INDIAN ARMY commandos on early Thursday morning moved into Oberoi and Taj Mahal hotels of Mumbai to flush out the Fidayeens (suicide bombers), who have taken control of the hotels since late Wednesday night. Three to four heavily armed suicide attackers are said to be inside the Taj and Oberoi hotels and have held several people hostage in there.

At least 60 people are held hostage in the historic Taj hotel, where security forces are planning to launch a coordinated attack.

An eyewitness revealed that terrorists were looking for people with British and American passports and wanted to take hold of them. At least 30 to 40 people are said to be taken hostage by the fidayeens in the two hotels, he added.
Latest reports said that National Security Guard personnel have also been brought in to get inside the hotels and neutralise the terrorists. Both Taj and Oberoi hotels have been encircled by the commandos to ensure that no one enters or escapes from there.

In a brazen Fidayeen attack, 80 people were killed and more than 250 were injured when a group of heavily armed terrorists attacked crowded places in South Mumbai. First to come under attack was the popular Mumbai cafe Leopald, which always remain crowded even on weekdays.

In an unfortunate incident, an entire building in the heart of Colaba called Nariman House is now held hostage by five suspected terrorists. It is being feared that lives of Jewish families, who live in the building is under serious threat.

Four people were killed after terrorists struck in the highly crowded area and fired gun shots indiscriminately. National Security Guard commandos are planning to attack the house from behind to ensure that they are able to free the hostages.

Initial reports said that a group of terrorists escaped in a police vehicle and reached Colaba, where they threw a grenade on a petrol pump.

After disembarking from the police car, they entered the Nariman house, in a preplanned manner and held the Jewish and Israeli families as hostages.

They also started firing indiscriminately after taking positions in the house and are still holding out. Security forces have cordoned the house and commandos have moved in from behind in the highly crowded area.
Maharashtra deputy chief Minister RR Patil informed that nine suspected ultras have been arrested. He also informed the death of 11 policemen, including some of the top cops of the Anti-terrorists squad.

Chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh said that operation was still going on and highly trained commandos have been brought in to end the hostage situation. He admitted that it is not known whether how many terrorists were involved in the attack and who was responsible for the same.

School and colleges have been shut in Mumbai city and government has asked the people to stay away from the affected areas.

333 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:35:15pm

re: #316 commadore183

NDTV reported that about 5-8 terrorists are on the loose in the city.

Damn! How many more will these monster kill before they are brought low? I hope they are all killed and swiftly. Too many have been lost already.

334 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:35:20pm

re: #305 keeping it simple

Newly hatched. Thanks for letting me in.

I am very sad for the good folks in India. Heartbreaking news. Blessings on all those who fight terrorism. Wish I could help.

Welcome. Friend of Bill?

335 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:35:26pm

Welcome New Lizards!

/seems to be a stealth hatching...

336 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:35:41pm

re: #279 jcm

Brinkman Pitmaster, had if for years, mines a uniform rust color now. Charcoal and chips go in the firebox on the left, a pan of water in the left part of the main box, turkey in the middle. I use it was a straight BBQ also. Plank smoked salmon in the summer.

That's the one I was thinking of. My neighbor has one, and smokes meats in it in the winter time. That's a wonderful smell to come home to.

I grill almost every weekend all winter long, and more so in the summer. My neighbors find it odd that I'll grill in the middle of a blizzard - but they don't understand that, in Minnesota, that's when we must grill. Even though Mother Nature always has the upper hand, she must never know that we know she has the upper hand.

337 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:03pm

re: #253 Basho

NDTV showing exclusive footage of the boats used to sneak in...

Link? It's not on Foxnews anymore, was earlier.

338 SteveC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:16pm

re: #311 notutopia

Agreed. They were well intelled and are well armed and are tactically placed in a circular geographical pattern. They have also accomplished closing the financial markets.

That also means the Indian terrorist cops had broken a basic rule: They had gotten complacent and predictable. The attackers knew they would most likely be present when they hit the police station.

339 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:23pm

Carolina up by 9. Hansboro has 12 already

340 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:23pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

Link? It's not on Foxnews anymore, was earlier.

[Link: www.ndtv.com...]

341 Gitarzan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:46pm

re: #314 buzzsawmonkey

It's one thing to say, casually, that government employees are maroons; it's another thing entirely to have the government itself confirm it.

Good point, didn't look at it that way...

;-P

342 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:47pm

re: #339 Nevergiveup

Carolina up by 9. Hansboro has 12 already

Mumbai down by at least 80.

343 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:36:53pm

re: #340 gmsc

[Link: www.ndtv.com...]

thank you!

344 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:37:02pm
345 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:37:16pm

go to NDTV.com and there is a link for live video...

FOX dropped the ball and cut their feed.

346 yah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:37:37pm

I got less than 5 hours of sleep last night, worked 12 hours.
I am so tired but I am afraid to go to sleep because I don't know what kind of world I will wake up in tomorrow.

347 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:01pm

re: #306 Iron Fist

That's a damn fine question. I've never heard a Leftist ever give even a half-way plausible answer to it.

It's easy to put it in their terms, too. "We hate those who force women to wear certain clothing, and we hate those who deny the existence, and rights, of gay members of our society. "
Why doesn't this go over with them?

348 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:18pm

Twenty Israelis missing in Mumbai
Link

349 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:20pm

re: #312 Basho

Since the terrorists were looking for American tourists in the hotels, it isn't too farfetched to think they attacked during a US holiday.

Reply at
331 Syrah

Was watching IBN and muffed the post.

350 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:24pm

Fox News reporting over 100 still trapped in the Taj hotel.

351 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:35pm

'Evening LGF.
So the Godless, dirty, filthy, perverted, bloodthirsty, bastards are at it again in India?

352 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:37pm

Tawaaf

BLU-108/B Submunition

/repeat yearly until they stop this nonsense

353 Irish Rose  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:41pm

Good evening lizards, I am home for the evening and in my jammies.
What did I miss?

354 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:53pm

re: #343 reine.de.tout

thank you!

You're welcome.

355 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:54pm

re: #288 J.S.

So I'm at least as bright as a CNN terrorism analyst.

Thanks. I feel like a hundred dollars.

356 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:55pm

re: #338 SteveC

That also means the Indian terrorist cops had broken a basic rule: They had gotten complacent and predictable. The attackers knew they would most likely be present when they hit the police station.

We get that here, too. A friend of mine used to be with the US Attorney's office here in DC. A couple of "her" narcotics cops were killed during her stint, and usually the same way; the bad guys would lie in wait for them when they were coming off duty, and not wearing their vests.

357 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:57pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

Link? It's not on Foxnews anymore, was earlier.

Here : [Link: www.ndtv.com...]

358 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:38:58pm

re: #300 FrogMarch

If you haven't watched The Third Jihad, do so now. It is one of the most powerful and accurate depiction of what we are witnessing now. Google the web, it's out there.

359 whitehatguy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:05pm

re: #201 NJDhockeyfan

Meanwhile in Egypt...20,000 member of the RoP greet Coptic Christians with stones & gas cylinders...

and also, there is a coup of sorts going on in Thailand.
The Thai army has "advised" the Prime Minister to resign and the
the airport is shut down.

360 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:09pm

re: #346 yah

I got less than 5 hours of sleep last night, worked 12 hours.
I am so tired but I am afraid to go to sleep because I don't know what kind of world I will wake up in tomorrow.


It would be a shame if you succumbed to fear because that would be a win for the terrorists.

361 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:22pm

re: #348 Wishing

Twenty Israelis missing in Mumbai
Link

Christ.

I hope they're all undercover Golanis.

362 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:22pm

re: #286 SteveC

damn

Hello, Pakistan!

363 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:29pm

re: #341 talon_262

Good point, didn't look at it that way...

;-P

I don't understand why the Gov. asks Military traveling over seas to be discrete and then issues them funny colored passports?

364 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:34pm

re: #353 Irish Rose

Good evening lizards, I am home for the evening and in my jammies.
What did I miss?

Mumbai has been taken over by terrorists starting about 10-12 hours ago, and hostages are still being held.

365 SteveC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:37pm

re: #315 dan tanna

update from NDTV...

speculation surrounds "international conspiracy" and Mumbai underworld, with involvement of Pakistani Intelligence...

Oh, shit. If Pakistan and India start screwing around, we all get f'ed.

366 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:52pm

re: #325 dan tanna

also...

5 Israeli's reported hostage...

Also...Chabad Rabbi and his wife are reported missing

/you can bet they have a dull knife and a video camera

367 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:39:57pm

well Irish Rose Muslim terrorists are attacking Mumbai and all hell is breaking loose...other than that...not much going on...

368 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:06pm

There are going to be lots of accusations against Pakistan and the ISI, but there have been three purges of the ISI, two under Mushy, and one under Zardari. There are probably leftovers still, but the intent of this attack is to upset the peace that's blooming between India and Pakistan, it made some dramatic progress in the past two days.
Personally, I think if the ISI is involved at all it would be a renegade or two. Saying the ISI's behind it without proof is really just furthering the terror group's aims. They want war between Pakistan and India, please keep that in mind.

369 tripletdad  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:16pm

re: #54 gmsc

I've thought that myself. If this isn't corporate welfare, what is?

370 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:21pm

re: #344 Iron Fist

Jamie Gorelick is special. She was working TDY for al Qaeda trying to keep the CIA and FBI from comparing notes prior to 9-11.

She's the nightmare that won't end.
/I sure hope Obama promotes Gorelick to some high paying important cabinet position where she can continue her financial rape and intelligence insanity.
/It's the proper democrat thing to do.

371 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:25pm

re: #342 gmsc

Mumbai down by at least 80.

I think they are lowballing the casualties. I bet there will nearer to 150 dead after this is over and done...

372 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:40:53pm

re: #369 tripletdad

I've thought that myself. If this isn't corporate welfare, what is?

Exactly. We need to start referring to these bailout hearings as corporate welfare hearings!

373 pottymouth1  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:12pm

Hi all. I'm the fng.

374 Truck Monkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:26pm

re: #339 Nevergiveup

Carolina up by 9. Hansboro has 12 already

I think that I had a GI Joe with Kung Fu grip that was made by Hasbro.

/

375 swamprat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:27pm

Wonder how many troops India will now send to Iraq and/or Afghanistan. Or will they surrender like Spain. (the French are evolving a spine, if more cars burn, they may develop claws. I now have grudging and conditional respect for France. )India's people are intelligent and polite, I don't think that this will end up to the attackers' advantage. As the terrorists reveal their message and plan, more and more countries will respond. Long term terrorism is a morons' game; guaranteed to lose.

376 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:37pm

re: #292 Iron Fist

What, you don't think people with a $35K income should be able to buy half-million dollar houses? You just hate poor people, don't you?

[/sarc]

Hey, now! I have less than a 35K income and I bought a half-million dollar house.

Well, it would be a half-million dollar house were it located in So. California, Vail, Los Vegas, or some such. But here, it's just another little house in the country.

377 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:48pm
378 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:50pm

Brazilians are trapped in the Cafe. The Brazilian consulate and european consulate are now posting numbers for contacts.

379 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:41:57pm

Chabad has asked for people to pray and say Psalms...

380 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:12pm

re: #355 Noam Sayin'

Yes! You are! (I think the terrorism "experts" just read blogs, maybe a couple of Internet "news" postings, then rework the material.)

381 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:17pm
382 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:30pm
383 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:46pm

re: #331 Syrah

OK.

I will give on that. They may have thought it a more target rich time frame.

But I still have my doubts that they would no much of anything about our Thanksgiving habits and traditions.

Agreed. They went after Brits and Israelis as well...obviously not celebrating Thanksgiving.

384 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:42:49pm

re: #381 buzzsawmonkey

To hell with Angry Muslims.

There. I said it.

You always say that?

385 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:02pm

re: #259 Noam Sayin'

Just considering something here for pondering. Does anyone else think this attacked was timed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, so most of the masses (other than us, of course) will be more concerned with football (two lousy games, from what I hear) and turkey, and otherwise occupied with travel arrangements?

I certainly had the same thought. Was it already Thursday in India when this occurred? Even if so, I'd say they got the day half-wrong, insofar as the US might have been the indirect target.

OTOH, India has plenty of its own problems with Muslim terrorism, I'm far from certain that the perps had any clue - about anything.

386 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:13pm

re: #381 buzzsawmonkey

To hell with Angry Muslims.

There. I said it.

Yes, now let's send those terrorists to hell!

387 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:19pm

*** Notice ***

Since most People have the next couple days off, I'm announcing that FNDT came on Wednesday this week.

388 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:24pm

We are heading into a Medieval stretch of history.

389 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:28pm
390 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:28pm

I think I'm going to pour myself a really nice scotch and pretend this is the FNDT.

391 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:29pm

re: #366 Killian Bundy

/you can bet they have a dull knife and a video camera

don't say that, not even with a sarc tag.

392 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:38pm

re: #383 funky chicken

Agreed. They went after Brits and Israelis as well...obviously not celebrating Thanksgiving.

Well maybe they don't like turkey either?

393 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:43:46pm

re: #388 Yankee Zionist

We are heading into a Medieval stretch of history.

Cycles, it's all cycles.

394 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:02pm

re: #364 gmsc

Mumbai has been taken over by terrorists

Whoa whoa whoa. The thing's bad enough, but let's not exaggerate. Mumbai is a city of 13 million people; the whole city hasn't been "taken over by terrorists". They are holed up in, what is it now, two or three locations.

395 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:05pm
396 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:12pm

gunfire at Nariman House reported...by NDTV...

army being deployed...

NDTV showing video

397 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:23pm

re: #371 LoFlyer

87 deceased they just reported.

398 Gitarzan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:24pm

re: #363 Nevergiveup

I don't understand why the Gov. asks Military traveling over seas to be discrete and then issues them funny colored passports?

AFAIK, US military personnel/dependents carry the regular (blue) passports.

399 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:30pm

re: #259 Noam Sayin'

Just considering something here for pondering. Does anyone else think this attacked was timed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, so most of the masses (other than us, of course) will be more concerned with football (two lousy games, from what I hear) and turkey, and otherwise occupied with travel arrangements?

I'd say it's more likely timed to affect the upcoming Indian elections, or that it has to do with India being the only country to stand up to the Al-Qaeda-supported Somali pirates.

400 alegrias  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:33pm

re: #330 FrogMarch

That's me - financial reality bigot.
Not only that - but Jamie Gorelick and Franklin Raines ciphered millions prior to the collapse.. and Barney Frank said "nothing to see here - move along"..
/How dare we get upset about that.

* * * *
Franklin Raines making over $90 million in a Federal Fannie Mae job just ain't right.

People! We took our eye off the ball & piggy bank while these bureaucrats & lawyers skimmed gazillions right off the top while further screwing our country.

Especially that bitch Jamie Gorelick, who told our FBI and CIA not to share information about terrorists during those super fantastic Clinton years of PEACE & Good times & LOVE in the Oval Office.

401 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:34pm

re: #358 Bubbaman

If you haven't watched The Third Jihad, do so now. It is one of the most powerful and accurate depiction of what we are witnessing now. Google the web, it's out there.

Ok - I will.

402 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:39pm

"Operation is under way"
At Taj and Oberoi

Police want them to take live t.v. off the buildings

403 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:46pm

It looks like it's on at the Nariman House.

404 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:44:59pm

re: #391 2by2

don't say that, not even with a sarc tag.

/well, you can pretend your Pollyanna all day long

405 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:01pm

re: #383 funky chicken

Agreed. They went after Brits and Israelis as well...obviously not celebrating Thanksgiving.

Americans, Brits and Israelis, we are all hated by the worst of the bad guys.

406 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:04pm

re: #390 Irene NYC

I think I'm going to pour myself a really nice scotch and pretend this is the FNDT.

You got me convinced mate, unscrewing the beer cap.

407 keeping it simple  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:06pm

re: #319 outsidephilly

Welcome. And yes, the happenings in India are so very sad . . ..

Thank you for the welcome.

I'm surprised at how many people I meet who appear to have forgotten 9/11. I hope they are watching India tonight.

Yes, Grog for all here. Belly up to the bar.

408 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:10pm
409 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:17pm

re: #381 buzzsawmonkey

To hell with Angry Muslims.

There. I said it.

I'm an angry atheist at the moment.

410 J.S.  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:18pm

re: #368 Thanos

I agree. the terrorists want the divisions to build and develop...it serves their interests...The want Indians and Pakistanis at each other's throats; and they want Indians and foreigners (Westerners) fighting one another (or accusing one another).

411 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:21pm

re: #387 Thanos

*** Notice ***

Since most People have the next couple days off, I'm announcing that FNDT came on Wednesday this week.

GMTA!
;)

412 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:29pm

re: #375 swamprat

Wonder how many troops India will now send to Iraq and/or Afghanistan. Or will they surrender like Spain. (the French are evolving a spine, if more cars burn, they may develop claws. I now have grudging and conditional respect for France. )India's people are intelligent and polite, I don't think that this will end up to the attackers' advantage. As the terrorists reveal their message and plan, more and more countries will respond. Long term terrorism is a morons' game; guaranteed to lose.

Um, why on earth would India send troops to Iraq? Pakistan shares a HUGE border with India. They are gonna need their troops right at home.

413 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:31pm

re: #398 talon_262

AFAIK, US military personnel/dependents carry the regular (blue) passports.

Not if they request the special ones

414 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:45:46pm
415 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:46:03pm

Heavy gun fighting ongoing now outside the Chabad house, unknown the condition. hostages still held. police still waiting outside for orders from the police army.

416 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:46:05pm

re: #387 Thanos

*** Notice ***

Since most People have the next couple days off, I'm announcing that FNDT came on Wednesday this week.

FNDT?

417 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:46:30pm

re: #380 J.S.

Yes! You are! (I think the terrorism "experts" just read blogs, maybe a couple of Internet "news" postings, then rework the material.)

I think a few of them could read this blog and get a better sense of what's going on in the world.

Would be really nice if they gave Charles a hat tip.

Thanos is providing great insight. Y'all might want to bookmark his blog if you haven't already.

These

two

sites might prove quite useful over the coming weeks, too.

418 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:03pm
419 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:03pm

re: #387 Thanos

*** Notice ***

Since most People have the next couple days off, I'm announcing that FNDT came on Wednesday this week.

FNDT: From now until Sunday evening, around 7.

lol

420 outsidephilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:39pm

re: #394 Occasional Reader

Whoa whoa whoa. The thing's bad enough, but let's not exaggerate. Mumbai is a city of 13 million people; the whole city hasn't been "taken over by terrorists". They are holed up in, what is it now, two or three locations.

What do you think the reaction would be if something like that happened in New York or philly?
My heart hurts for the friends, families, etc., of all involved in this terror!

421 SteveC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:46pm

CNN says that Obama has discussed the situation with SecState Rice on the telephone...

WE'RE SAVED!

/Flavored with extra sarcasm!

422 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:47pm
423 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:47:50pm

If these cowards ever show up in Tennessee, I can PROMISE you they would assume room temperature before they squeezed off the second shot.

424 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:28pm

Just hit a terrorist in the Nariman house.

425 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:29pm

Evening, all!

Brooke Burke wins Dancing With The Stars. Mmm . . . Brooke Burke!

426 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:41pm

Tomorrow there will be all kinds of muslims crying about their "victimhood".

And "islamaphobia".

427 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:42pm

re: #400 alegrias

* * * *
Franklin Raines making over $90 million in a Federal Fannie Mae job just ain't right.

People! We took our eye off the ball & piggy bank while these bureaucrats & lawyers skimmed gazillions right off the top while further screwing our country.

Especially that bitch Jamie Gorelick, who told our FBI and CIA not to share information about terrorists during those super fantastic Clinton years of PEACE & Good times & LOVE in the Oval Office.

I think the Fannie and Freddie "thieves" should be pressured to give back some or all of the millions upon millions they were allowed to take.

428 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:42pm

Another angle regarding timing of attacks that is being missed by Americans...
Currently, England is touring India in a series or cricket matches and the terrorists know Brits travel to root on their team...

Also, next week a very big cricket tournament is scheduled to begin next week...This cricket tournament is huge...and pulled in a tv contract of close to a Billion dollars from Star TV...which is ESPN and FOX Sports.

And before you scoff at cricket...in India it is bigger than soccer...and can be compared to baseball as far as fan following.

429 gearhead  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:48:48pm

FNDT = Friday Night Drinking Thread.

"Friday" is subject to change, no quorum necessary.

430 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:03pm

re: #404 Killian Bundy

I don't want to call up the images that your comment triggers in my mind.

431 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:04pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

One of the four terrorists has been hit.

432 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:16pm

re: #420 outsidephilly

What do you think the reaction would be if something like that happened in New York or philly?
My heart hurts for the friends, families, etc., of all involved in this terror!

No kidding.

433 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:36pm
434 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:52pm

There ya go Buzz. Thirty thousand. !

435 Basho  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:53pm

re: #426 whiterasta

I'm sure there are reporters writing a story about muslims fearing BACKLASH~! as we speak.

436 SWPaul  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:49:54pm

re: #278 FrogMarch

He said he doesn't want there to be any retaliation from any innocent Muslims. Well, obviously no legitimate government would intentionally retaliate against innocents. Chopra should go and tell the terrorists not to target innocents. But of course you know, they just did. Chopra really doesn't get it, does he? He's blind to reality; I just don't understand the thought process some people have. Far-left, far-right, scares the hell out me!

How do these extremists get to go on television and spew hate?

437 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:11pm

re: #416 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

FNDT?

"Friday Night Drinking Thread"

438 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:17pm
439 gearhead  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:30pm

re: #431 notutopia

One of the four terrorists has been hit.


I would say something like "Touchdown!", but I try not to be that crass.

440 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:31pm

The news reporter is suggesting that the Jooz in Nariman house might have been involved in the "crime."

Unbelievable. Disgusting.

441 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:50:53pm
442 razorbacker  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:07pm

India fences off Bangladesh to keep out Muslim terror

INDIA is accelerating the construction of a 2,500-mile fence to seal its border with Bangladesh amid growing fears that its Muslim neighbour could become “a new Afghanistan”.

Indian officials and western diplomats have been alarmed by an increase in terrorist attacks by militant groups linked to Al-Qaeda and by the Dhaka government’s failure to crack down on them.

From 2005. This isn't new, only the scope is new.

Strong fences make good neighbors, or so I've heard.

443 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:08pm

re: #395 buzzsawmonkey

Cycles, it's all cyclere: #440 Yankee Zionist

The news reporter is suggesting that the Jooz in Nariman house might have been involved in the "crime."

Unbelievable. Disgusting.

What news reporter?

s.

All the way down?

Mommy, mommy why do I keep going around in circles?

Be quiet, or I'll nail your other foot to the floor.

444 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:16pm

re: #408 Iron Fist

I'd just as soon they throw her ass into General Population at some supermax prison. It would be sexist to seggregate her from the male members of the prison population, now wouldn't it? Can't have that happen.

Jamie Gorelick will more than likely, in Orwellian fashion, be given an golden statue for her efforts. Watch - Obama will give her a choice cabinet position.

445 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:29pm

re: #433 buzzsawmonkey

30,000 posts and no avatar? Mandatory recount isn't it?

446 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:29pm

Beslan II

/Islam is out of control

447 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:32pm

I broke out the 21 year old grand reserve Glenfiddich.

The FNDT is now

officially

on.

/and God knows we need it after all this.

448 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:32pm

re: #440 Yankee Zionist

The news reporter is suggesting that the Jooz in Nariman house might have been involved in the "crime."

Unbelievable. Disgusting.

Which "News Reporter"?

449 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:37pm

heck, I wasn't going to post that last bit, sorry.

450 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:38pm

re: #385 itellu3times

I certainly had the same thought. Was it already Thursday in India when this occurred? Even if so, I'd say they got the day half-wrong, insofar as the US might have been the indirect target.

OTOH, India has plenty of its own problems with Muslim terrorism, I'm far from certain that the perps had any clue - about anything.

Al Qaeda's not ignorant, and I certainly think they know that many Americans start taking days off in this week. My floor was half empty, and most will be out on Friday.

451 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:39pm

re: #434 bellamags

There ya go Buzz. Thirty thousand. !

I think you made his week, Bella!

452 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:51:42pm

re: #435 Basho

As I have remarked before.:

The press is not biased. They are on the side of the enemy.

453 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:12pm

re: #440 Yankee Zionist

The news reporter is suggesting that the Jooz in Nariman house might have been involved in the "crime."

Unbelievable. Disgusting.

Well, they are clueless. The alternative scenario is that all the Jews in the house are dead.

454 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:22pm

re: #441 Iron Fist

Night is rather subject to interpretation. It's always night somewhere.

Close.

455 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:31pm

re: #444 FrogMarch

Hell, George Bush could give her the Medal of Freedom, just like he did for George Tenet.

456 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:40pm

re: #440 Yankee Zionist

The news reporter is suggesting that the Jooz in Nariman house might have been involved in the "crime."

Unbelievable. Disgusting.

On IBN? I had to rewind that to be sure I heard correctly. THen she said the Jooos had been living there for two years, keeping a low profile and staying out of trouble. Gee, thanks.

457 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:40pm
458 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:49pm

re: #451 LoFlyer

Hey LoFlyer. i had to step outside for a bit earlier. btw - where did you get your nic?

459 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:50pm

re: #439 gearhead

The only problem is these are lives...not pigskin.
; ) I think I share the rooting for the NSG though...I want them all given
No Quarter.

460 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:51pm

re: #428 dan tanna

Another angle regarding timing of attacks that is being missed by Americans...
Currently, England is touring India in a series or cricket matches and the terrorists know Brits travel to root on their team...

Also, next week a very big cricket tournament is scheduled to begin next week...This cricket tournament is huge...and pulled in a tv contract of close to a Billion dollars from Star TV...which is ESPN and FOX Sports.

And before you scoff at cricket...in India it is bigger than soccer...and can be compared to baseball as far as fan following.

IBN announcer mentioned that it was now canceled.

461 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:52:53pm

Has CAIR denounced the attacks yet?

462 whitehatguy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:04pm

Happy Thanksgiving to all. Count your blessings!

463 capecoddah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:20pm

Good evening and a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

464 wee fury  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:42pm

I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. This Turkey (should you be inclined to view it) made me laugh. ;-)

465 outsidephilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:43pm

re: #457 buzzsawmonkey

I'm proud of my football.

Wha cha talkin' bout?
My football is better than your football!
///

466 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:44pm

re: #402 Occasional Reader

"Operation is under way"
At Taj and Oberoi

Police want them to take live t.v. off the buildings

Well, yeah...

/but doesn't "the public have a right to know"?

467 keeping it simple  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:57pm

re: #334 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Welcome. Friend of Bill?


No. I don't know anyone named Bill. Thanks for the welcome.

Grog for you? I'll try to be careful but there may be a bit of shell in it. I'm that new. Learning as I hatch.

468 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:53:59pm
469 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:00pm

re: #455 funky chicken

George Tenet should have been executed for gross incompetence.

470 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:08pm

re: #440 Yankee Zionist

Which reporter? What network?

471 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:26pm

FNN is running the Greta/Palin interview from the kitchen.
It's a slow news day.
///

472 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:54:31pm

The reporters on NDTV must have no clue about the range of the guns the terrorists are using. They are NOT a safe distance from these hot spots.

473 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:00pm

Did anyone mention Newt saying he was running for prez in 2012?

474 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:25pm

re: #438 buzzsawmonkey

I'm out!

30,012 karma. Happy Thanksgiving. :)

475 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:27pm

re: #445 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

30,000 posts and no avatar? Mandatory recount isn't it?

Not 30,000 post count, that's Buzz's karma points. Or at least it was at the time, it's gone up since

476 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:32pm

re: #465 outsidephilly

Wha cha talkin' bout?
My football is better than your football!
///


Ah, but buzzsaw football is - how can I put this delicately? - "covered in experience."
;)

477 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:55:39pm

re: #457 buzzsawmonkey

I'm proud of my football.

Who isn't?

But that's no reason to short circuit the system... :-)

478 ClosetConservative  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:56:17pm

Let's be thankful that the Indian military and police forces have the cajones to enter the buildings instead of trying to appease the terrorists.

479 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:56:27pm

IBN live just posted comments from world leaders

Gordon Brown
Ban ki moon
The EU
and president elect Obama.

Apparently the actual President of the United States no longer makes statements on behalf of the United States.

480 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:56:33pm

re: #461 NJDhockeyfan

Has CAIR denounced the attacks yet?

They will claim the Jews at Nariman House masterminded the whole thing.

/remember those 4,000 Israelis who never showed up for work?

481 Nevergiveup  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:56:37pm

Fox is really dropping the ball on this one

482 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:56:49pm
483 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:22pm

re: #481 Nevergiveup

Fox is really dropping the ball on this one

i was thinking the same thing.

484 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:28pm

I had read at CricInfo...
Yes...Im one of those crazy Americans who follow Cricket...
That the Champions League matches had been moved from Mumbai...

If there were to cancel it would be big hit financially...

Just heard on NDTV that 5 Israeli's being held at Trident Hotel...
Apparently, the Israeli's are diamond merchants.

485 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:36pm

IBN has cut their live feed out of concern that the terrorists may be watching TV.

Can you imagine CNN cooperating like that?

486 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:37pm

re: #458 bellamags

Hey LoFlyer. i had to step outside for a bit earlier. btw - where did you get your nic?

Well mate, I could make up something about being a pilot and flying low or some other stuff, but the truth is that is a carry-over nic from another blog specializing in cars. And "flying low" is slang for driving really fast, hence LoFlyer. Sort of dumb isn't it? Yaaar!

487 outsidephilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:42pm

re: #476 Irene NYC

Ah, but buzzsaw football is - how can I put this delicately? - "covered in experience."
;)

nicely said . . . ,
But between you and me, my football is cuter than buzzsaw's football . . .
///

488 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:49pm

re: #455 funky chicken

Hell, George Bush could give her the Medal of Freedom, just like he did for George Tenet.

I don't think he would. Jamie is the democrat's prize.

489 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:50pm

The Taj and the Trident...India's Twin Towers.

490 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:52pm

re: #481 Nevergiveup

Fox is really dropping the ball on this one

I'm through with Fox. I get the news here.

491 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:54pm
492 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:57:58pm

re: #448 FightingBack

Which "News Reporter"?


IBN live.

493 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:12pm

re: #461 NJDhockeyfan

Has CAIR denounced the attacks yet?

Yes, they denounced the Rush to judgement and police attacks on the youths in the taj

494 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:13pm

re: #475 Neo Con since 9-11

Yep you are right... close to 30,000 posts though.

495 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:32pm

re: #259 Noam Sayin'

Just considering something here for pondering. Does anyone else think this attacked was timed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, so most of the masses (other than us, of course) will be more concerned with football (two lousy games, from what I hear) and turkey, and otherwise occupied with travel arrangements?

I've been thinking similar thoughts.

496 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:44pm

re: #441 Iron Fist

Night is rather subject to interpretation. It's always night somewhere.

And it's always Happy Hour somewhere, too.

Drink!

497 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:58:53pm

re: #492 Yankee Zionist

IBN live.

What network newscaster said the Jews at Nariman House were behind this?

498 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:13pm

re: #485 Alouette

IBN has cut their live feed out of concern that the terrorists may be watching TV.

Can you imagine CNN cooperating like that?

I'm sure that if Saddam Hussein had asked them to stop live feeds, CNN would have complied.
;)

499 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:15pm

Who's going to pick up the bill for this?

/this is so far beyond the pale that serious deep reaching retribution is in order

500 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:16pm

re: #485 Alouette

IBN has cut their live feed out of concern that the terrorists may be watching TV.

Can you imagine CNN cooperating like that?

If CNN knew the terrorists were watching their channel they would show footage of exactly where all the police and army are strategically located.

501 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:39pm

They are saying that 5 terrorists have been killed and 9 captured. I've got to say that it appears from the video feeds that the situation is still very chaotic and the response appears less than well coordinated.

502 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 7:59:59pm

What is this? Muslims think they won the Presidency of the US so they're attacking everywhere?
End times or something? (I won't say much about that because Charles doesn't like it, as it can make us lizards look nuts.)

503 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:00pm

re: #457 buzzsawmonkey

I'm proud of my football.

re: #477 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Who isn't?

Not me - I can totally relate to the non-sports fan in this video.

504 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:33pm

DON'T LET THOSE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN, LIZARDS!

505 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:44pm

Gotta say, I have IBN on, I did not hear the part about the reporter saying the Jews were "involved".

506 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:00:50pm

re: #500 NJDhockeyfan

See my comment #452, above.

507 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:03pm

re: #246 alegrias

* * *
Geraldo's crime was to be over-eager, proud & overjoyed at being WITH our troops. It was a mistake I believe.
I doubt Geraldo was trying to get our troops KILLED.

YES, and I agree with you

now - see 0bama, Barack Hussein
for the new poster boy for the leading cause of death for perhaps millions of people, by virtue of his (also) unsuitability to the task

508 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:04pm
509 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:10pm

Bella we discussed it at the last meet and 'me understanding is that Newt was aiming for the 2012 elections and could not run in the 2008 due to election contributions laws. Newt is thinking the Dems will be so screwed up by 2012 that the election will be a cake walk...

510 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:12pm

re: #486 LoFlyer

Well mate, I could make up something about being a pilot and flying low or some other stuff, but the truth is that is a carry-over nic from another blog specializing in cars. And "flying low" is slang for driving really fast, hence LoFlyer. Sort of dumb isn't it? Yaaar!

No way. thats cool. IMO there is no other way to drive. I think the fastest I ever drove a vehicle was 130 mph in an Acura. I would love to take a z06 vette and open it up to see what it can do. I think top speed is over 180.

511 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:16pm

re: #497 Wishing

I'm listening to IBN, I have not heard that Israeli's were responsible...
they said that they were involved as hostages...

512 Shug  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:35pm

re: #497 Wishing

What network newscaster said the Jews at Nariman House were behind this?


I heard that. Something about citizens living there being responsible.
It didn't make sense at all, as I was barely paying attention, but I thought : no, they can't be blaming the jews for this, can they ?

513 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:41pm

re: #508 Iron Fist

I don't know that I approve of them taking any prisoners. You can't always snuff them if you take them alive. OTOH, dead guys don't file lawsuits.


Iron Fist,
It's India. Life is cheap.

514 Pechon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:43pm

Happy thanksgiving everyone. My wife is due any day now and I joked about how her water will break by the time we sit down for thanksgiving dinner.

515 jamgarr  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:50pm

re: #505 Occasional Reader

Gotta say, I have IBN on, I did not hear the part about the reporter saying the Jews were "involved".

I have it on too and I didn't hear that.

516 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:01:59pm

re: #509 LoFlyer

Not for him.

517 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:11pm

re: #505 Occasional Reader

Gotta say, I have IBN on, I did not hear the part about the reporter saying the Jews were "involved".

Me neither...

518 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:11pm

42 hatchlings, how many socks?

519 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:22pm

"5 foreign tourists held hostage at Oberoi Hotel"

520 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:29pm

5 foreign hostages are being held in the Oberoi

521 swamprat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:39pm

re: #412 funky chicken

Um, why on earth would India send troops to Iraq? Pakistan shares a HUGE border with India. They are gonna need their troops right at home.


To spit in the eye of the people behind this. Somebody is footing the bill for all this nonsense. In Darfur, Chechen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia; everybody acts as if these horrors are spontaneous and independent.. I call BS. Somebody, somewhere is writing the check. All this is part of a plan. The Danish cartoon controversy, the killing of Theodor Van Gogh, all this is bought and paid for. Terrorism is the symptom. Power lust is the disease.


hope this helps

522 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:44pm

re: #490 FightingBack

I'm through with Fox. I get the news here.

I watch Fox for the babes.

Occasionally I turn up the sound.

523 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:48pm

Did NDTV just say that there were 5 Jews hostage in the Trident? or the Taj?

524 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:02:58pm

re: #508 Iron Fist

I don't know that I approve of them taking any prisoners. You can't always snuff them if you take them alive. OTOH, dead guys don't file lawsuits.

They should take a few, to find out more about this group, and who sponsored them.

525 FrogMarch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:03:06pm

Good night everyone. Gotta go check the pie.

526 whiterasta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:03:18pm

re: #511 notutopia

it's all the fault of the Joos or George Boosh!

527 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:03:19pm

re: #485 Alouette

IBN has cut their live feed out of concern that the terrorists may be watching TV.

Can you imagine CNN cooperating like that?

Yup, I could see CNN cooperating with the terrorists by giving them air time and wouldn't put it past them slipping them munitions. CNN is the terrorist press agency.

528 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:03:28pm

re: #502 Kosh's Shadow

What is this? Muslims think they won the Presidency of the US so they're attacking everywhere?

Well, no, but since all we've been hearing about lately is press releases from the "Office of the President-Elect" I guess they figured the guy was already President.

529 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:27pm

re: #524 Occasional Reader

They should take a few, to find out more about this group, and who sponsored them.

They already have 9, right? Probably enough.

530 pottymouth1  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:30pm

I'm from Cleveland, here we don't have a professional football team, just theater, Romeo, Romeo, wentst will thou be fired, Romeo?

531 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:33pm

This thing's been going on for twelve hours.

Incredible.

532 keeping it simple  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:37pm

re: #329 LoFlyer

That's a good start mate. Welcome aboard!
/Got any grog?

Thanks. So glad to be here. Grog will be served to all and sundry.

More tomorrow. Must hit the sack. Good night all.

533 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:44pm

re: #500 NJDhockeyfan

If CNN knew the terrorists were watching their channel they would show footage of exactly where all the police and army are strategically located.

No, that would a little much. But they would bad-mouth the ability of the police and army to succeed while making a big deal about any communiques issued by the terrorists. Meanwhile, MSNBC would be putting on experts advising negotiating with these scum.

/spits

534 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:47pm

re: #501 Bubbaman

They are saying that 5 terrorists have been killed and 9 captured. I've got to say that it appears from the video feeds that the situation is still very chaotic and the response appears less than well coordinated.

3 escaped in a car, 5 killed, 9 captured, 2 in the Trident, and others loose. Looks like the initial estimate of 40-70 is about right if you figure the ones in providing the logistics but not acting.

535 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:04:52pm

re: #523 Wishing

Oberoi

536 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:05:59pm

re: #531 Occasional Reader

Those vermin must be on speed, they've been at it quite a while.

537 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:26pm
538 outsidephilly  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:36pm

g'night all

539 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:06:36pm

re: #510 bellamags

No way. thats cool. IMO there is no other way to drive. I think the fastest I ever drove a vehicle was 130 mph in an Acura. I would love to take a z06 vette and open it up to see what it can do. I think top speed is over 180.

I hit 150 on a long straight, about 6:30 on a Sunday morning on a country road. 'Me main fear was hitting a deer. (And the cops!) I was in a Celica GTS. 27 mpg and it would hit a 150. An awesome car, just a little too flashy!

540 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:06pm

re: #428 dan tanna

Another angle regarding timing of attacks that is being missed by Americans...
Currently, England is touring India in a series or cricket matches and the terrorists know Brits travel to root on their team...

Also, next week a very big cricket tournament is scheduled to begin next week...This cricket tournament is huge...and pulled in a tv contract of close to a Billion dollars from Star TV...which is ESPN and FOX Sports.

And before you scoff at cricket...in India it is bigger than soccer...and can be compared to baseball as far as fan following.

Yep. All the folks saying it was timed for the US Thanksgiving holiday are probably engaging in a little narcissism. Really, it's not all about us.

541 least  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:07:58pm

re: #152 Flying Dutchman

Fixed that for you

I agree with the sentiments you expressed, but those sentiments have absolutely no place in the Islamist mindset.

542 dan tanna  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:01pm

I heard on NDTV that 5 Israeli's were being held at Trident...

They have been described as diamond merchants in town for business.

543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:05pm

re: #534 Thanos

3 escaped in a car, 5 killed, 9 captured, 2 in the Trident, and others loose. Looks like the initial estimate of 40-70 is about right if you figure the ones in providing the logistics but not acting.

Initial reports will always be wrong... probably on the high side showing police success. The number killed and captured will most likely be less at this point than the current reports indicate.

Meaning, it ain't over.

544 Occasional Reader  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:41pm

I have to sign out. Rising early for the Thanksgiving trek.

We stand with the people of India, and the non-Indians caught up in this.

Smash jihadism.

Good night.

545 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:51pm
We all stood up, and Obie stood up with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures, and the judge walked in sat down with a seeing eye dog, and he sat down, we sat down. Obie looked at the seeing eye dog, and then at the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, and looked at the seeing eye dog. And then at twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one and began to cry, 'cause Obie came to the realization that it was a typical case of American blind justice, and there wasn't nothing he could do about it, and the judge wasn't going to look at the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us.

That last sentence is one of the finest examples of circumlocution I've found outside of Faulkner in Absalom, Absalom.

546 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:08:54pm

re: #540 funky chicken

I'm sure that you are correct. But remember the Crispy Cardiologists? (Glasgow) That was the 4th of July.

547 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:17pm

Now IBD is saying over 100 dead. The ROPieces at work. Sick M-f'ers.

548 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:18pm

Here is the latest:

Terror attacks - Highlights

* Around 150 people rescued from Taj Hotel
* 2 terrorists shot dead, 2 continue to be holed up at Taj Mahal hotel: Police
* 9 people detained: R.R. Patil
* Deccan Mujahideen claims responsibility for attacks
* 2 hostages shot dead in Cama Hospital
* Army join in Naval commandos to flush out terrorists from Oberoi Hotel
* ATS enters Taj Hotel to flush out terrorists
* Encounter cop Vijay Salaskar dead
* DIG Ashok Kante feared dead in attacks
* ATS chief Hemant Karkare dead
* 50-60 people held hostage at Taj Hotel
* Serial blasts rock Taj
* At least 20 terrorists involved in attacks
* Foreign tourists, media reporter taken hostage in Oberoi
* Colaba: BP Petrol Pump blown up
* VT station cordoned off by the police
* 20 taken hostage at Oberoi Hotel
* 101 killed, over 200 injured in terror strikes across Mumbai
* Firing outside Maharashtra Assembly
* Blast outside Metro Cinema
* 3 terrorists reportedly in Room no 631 of Taj Hotel
* Blast outside Mazagaon Dockyard
* 2 terrorists arrested
* Blast outside Capitol Cinema
* Firing continues at Taj Hotel
* ATS officer dies at Cama Hospital
549 little boomer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:34pm

100 dead-IBN.

550 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:41pm

re: #125 Flying Dutchman

Commandos arriving...

Indian commandos? That's like sending the Boy Scouts to take over for the Cub Scouts.
/Can't we loan'em a few Navy SEALS and end this shit pronto? Or since it's Indians we're talking about, Tonto?

551 SWPaul  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:47pm

OT from the Indian tragedy...

I just went out for a drive tonight (first time in 2 weeks too!) and I paid $1.77 a gallon! Wowzer! Almost makes me think it's a government conspiracy!
But then I realize I'm not insane. :)

552 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:09:52pm

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes, but this is India not Pakistan, the media and authorities there are more accurate. The numbers seem the same in all reports.

553 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:10:07pm

I know you've all been thinking about this and wondering what the death penalty law is in India

554 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:10:28pm

re: #541 least

I agree with the sentiments you expressed, but those sentiments have absolutely no place in the Islamist mindset.

We all know that

555 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:10:28pm

re: #542 dan tanna

I heard on NDTV that 5 Israeli's were being held at Trident...

They have been described as diamond merchants in town for business.

Maybe they can bribe their way out of it. Nah, they are Jews and it doesn't matter how much money they have, the terrorists ain't going to let them go...

556 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:10:39pm
557 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:18pm

re: #539 LoFlyer

I hit 150 on a long straight, about 6:30 on a Sunday morning on a country road. 'Me main fear was hitting a deer. (And the cops!) I was in a Celica GTS. 27 mpg and it would hit a 150. An awesome car, just a little too flashy!

There was a road called Lakeshore. It was about 3 miles long and perfectly straight. No lights, no stop signs and dead ended into the river. In high school I had a Camaro with a 305 and most of my friends had IROC's or Mustang GT's we would race our asses off on the weekends. One car that blew my doors off was a Supra. I will never forget that shit. Shamed by a Toyota. It was fun. I am surprised I am still alive.

558 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:19pm

Charles must be very proud right now.

Many times we go Off-Topic at the drop of a hat; skewing away from the issue at hand, which must frustrate him at times.

But here we are, on the eve of one of our most important holidays, and even though the thread is interspersed with recipes for that perfect holiday meal, and the inevitable drinking thread, we're still on-point with the world's major concern.

I'm proud to hang out with you f'ers.

559 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:28pm

re: #552 Thanos

Yes, but this is India not Pakistan, the media and authorities there are more accurate. The numbers seem the same in all reports.

It could be in NYC and they'd still get the facts wrong at first. That's just real life.

560 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:11:54pm

re: #551 SWPaul

OT from the Indian tragedy...

I just went out for a drive tonight (first time in 2 weeks too!) and I paid $1.77 a gallon! Wowzer! Almost makes me think it's a government conspiracy!
But then I realize I'm not insane. :)

$1.49 down the road from me. :)

561 Adrenalyn  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:06pm

just remember what Iran did to Carter

imagine all the hostile forces out there waiting to embarass 0bama and the Great Satan

it's going to be a tough 4 years

562 Bubbaman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:13pm

I've got an early and long day tomorrow. Goodnight all and G-d bless those who are injured, in harm's way, or in mourning. Tonight we're all Indians.

563 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:29pm
564 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:12:37pm

re: #558 Noam Sayin'

Charles must be very proud right now.

Many times we go Off-Topic at the drop of a hat; skewing away from the issue at hand, which must frustrate him at times.

But here we are, on the eve of one of our most important holidays, and even though the thread is interspersed with recipes for that perfect holiday meal, and the inevitable drinking thread, we're still on-point with the world's major concern.

I'm proud to hang out with you f'ers.

Thanks, f'er!

565 Truck Monkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:10pm

re: #446 Killian Bundy

Beslan II

/Islam is out of control

re: #505 Occasional Reader

Gotta say, I have IBN on, I did not hear the part about the reporter saying the Jews were "involved".

I believe that it was sarcasm.

566 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:12pm

Night all... lots to do Thursday... prayers for our Indian friends.

567 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:17pm

In market news, the Nikkei in Japan is up 221 points and the Hang Seng in Hong Kong is up 479. Yes their markets are open cause they don't do Thanksgiving over there.

I'm not saying that we are walking in tall cotton, but I think that we are nearing the end of the market dropping like a rock cycle.

The S&P rose 16% in the last 4 days. It will fall back again but that is a very good sign. Mortgage rates are dropping and some banker sI know said the phone started buzzing again for refinancing quotes.

There will be months of bad news to come, but remember that the market turns about 3 to 4 months before the economic numbers start looking a lot better.

For the first time since late August I am no longer worried about the market totally melting down and the banking system completely failing.

I think now the bigger concern is the inflation that will (notice I did not say "might") occur when the economy rebounds, and how much of these so called loans can we get paid back.

I just realized that the same Ford family who wants to be bailed out also own the 0 - 11 Detroit Lions. I don't have a good feel about that prospect.

568 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:38pm

re: #556 Iron Fist

OT, but does anyone here have any experience with the Saiga 12 shotguns? Ever since I found the little cut down one on Gunbroker, I've been interested in it. They're Russian made, but that could mean anything from extremly high quality to piss poor, and everything in between. It's certainly a neat concept. I can't afford the NFA gun, but if they are good I might could bust loose enough change to acquire one.

Saiga 12 review

569 Truck Monkey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:13:57pm

re: #525 FrogMarch

Good night everyone. Gotta go check the pie.

Sounds kinda dirty

570 little boomer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:14:01pm

I think I'd skip Friday prayer services this week if I were an muslim in India.

571 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:14:14pm

On Twitter Mumbia, they are saying that a number of people have been killed in an apartment house where families had been taken hostage. OMG Pray that isn't true.
[Link: search.twitter.com...]

572 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:14:36pm

re: #553 Neo Con since 9-11

I know you've all been thinking about this and wondering what the death penalty law is in India

Good, India uses hanging (even if rarely). Death by the rope is the best way to punish these scum.

573 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:01pm

re: #556 Iron Fist

OT, but does anyone here have any experience with the Saiga 12 shotguns? Ever since I found the little cut down one on Gunbroker, I've been interested in it. They're Russian made, but that could mean anything from extremly high quality to piss poor, and everything in between. It's certainly a neat concept. I can't afford the NFA gun, but if they are good I might could bust loose enough change to acquire one.

The Mossberg 20 aint bad, tactical that is.
Mossberg 20

574 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:08pm

re: #564 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You deserve it, f'er!

575 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:24pm

re: #522 Noam Sayin'

I watch Fox for the babes.

Occasionally I turn up the sound

Best Grand Champion Hall of Famer talent in my book is Laurie Dhue.

Megyn Kelly not bad in 2nd place though.

576 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:35pm

re: #565 Truck Monkey

I believe that it was sarcasm.

/?

577 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:38pm

re: #557 bellamags

There was a road called Lakeshore. It was about 3 miles long and perfectly straight. No lights, no stop signs and dead ended into the river. In high school I had a Camaro with a 305 and most of my friends had IROC's or Mustang GT's we would race our asses off on the weekends. One car that blew my doors off was a Supra. I will never forget that shit. Shamed by a Toyota. It was fun. I am surprised I am still alive.

Haar, when I was stationed in Memphis a bunch of sailors and marines would rally from the base to Shelby park located on the Mississippi river, They would burn me on the straits but I could take them in the curves. Problem was that there weren't many curves...We had a lot of fun, things were simpler back then mate!

578 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:44pm

!00 dead, 187 injured
- INB

579 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:15:52pm

History of Jihad against the Hindus

Hindus are not "people of the book" either- no dhimmitude for them.

580 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:22pm

re: #504 MandyManners

DON'T LET THOSE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN, LIZARDS!

Are you referring to the terrorists or the MSM coverage, or both?
In either case, they will never grind us down...NEVER!

581 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:35pm

re: #571 Pvt Bin Jammin

On Twitter Mumbia, they are saying that a number of people have been killed in an apartment house where families had been taken hostage. OMG Pray that isn't true.
[Link: search.twitter.com...]

Do you really think that a gang of scum (with apologies to scum everywhere) who just murdered 100 random people, would hesitate to slaughter a house full of Jews?

582 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:35pm

re: #567 3 wood

I think it's time for the NFL to re-visit this Thanksgiving Detroit home game tradition. And Dallas also. The best game on tomorrow is the one most of you cannot watch because it's on the NFL Network- Arizona at Philadelphia.

583 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:16:38pm

re: #570 little boomer

I think I'd skip Friday prayer services this week if I were an muslim in India.

And be on your toes here, especially after noon on January 20th.

584 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:13pm

re: #579 Sharmuta

The are also polytheists and calf worshipers.

585 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:17:15pm

re: #558 Noam Sayin'

I'm proud to hang out with you f'ers.


We love you too, Noam.

/and we really love your sock puppet!
;)

586 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:18:04pm

re: #559 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It could be in NYC and they'd still get the facts wrong at first. That's just real life.


Indian journalists are outstanding.

587 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:18:19pm

U.N. Terrorism Checklist:

1. Jews nope
2. Christians nope
3. Shinto nope
4. Buddhist nope
5. Anarchist nope
6. Humanist surely not
7. Spontaneous combustion - al- ahh!

588 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:18:48pm

re: #581 Alouette

No, I'm certain they wouln't hesitate. Makes my blood boil.

589 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:02pm

I think it's time for the NFL to re-visit this Thanksgiving Detroit home game tradition. And Dallas also. The best game on tomorrow is the one most of you cannot watch because it's on the NFL Network- Arizona at Philadelphia.

I'll take Zona. Especially if McNabb plays. McNabb could not read blitz if you walked up to the line with a neon sign. I'd blitz him getting off the bus.

590 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:41pm

re: #584 Killgore Trout

The are also polytheists and calf worshipers.

True unbelievers, worthy only of death.

591 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:49pm

re: #584 Killgore Trout

The are also polytheists and calf worshipers.

/so they deserve to be mass murdered?

592 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:19:50pm

re: #583 3 wood

And be on your toes here, especially after noon on January 20th.

The hell with being on your toes, hide your wallet!

593 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:20:02pm

Raksha Shetty on IBN now acknowledging the residents of Nariman House were known by their neighbors to be very gentle, peace-loving people.

594 Flying Dutchman  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:20:22pm

It's 05:18 am for me ... Bed time !

Happy thanksgiving to all !

595 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:20:26pm

GETTEM, INDIA!
MAY THE MOST HIGH BE WITH YOU!
CHARGE!

596 stevieray  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:20:33pm

re: #582 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I think it's time for the NFL to re-visit this Thanksgiving Detroit home game tradition. And Dallas also. The best game on tomorrow is the one most of you cannot watch because it's on the NFL Network- Arizona at Philadelphia.

You can watch it online at NFL.com

597 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:20:49pm

re: #568 Wishing

Holy shit.

I just witnessed Iron Fist, LGF's original Range Safety Officer, requesting information on a potential firearms purchase (which, in itself blows me away - 'cuz I thought he knew everything about everything ever manufactured), and within moments be provided said information.

Kudos, Wishing, for your google-fu.

/points off for not realizing Fist knew the ins and outs of the Mossberg 20.

598 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:31pm
599 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:32pm

re: #596 stevieray

You can watch it online at NFL.com

Yeah, but not the entire game showing every play.

600 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:21:43pm

re: #594 Flying Dutchman

It's 05:18 am for me ... Bed time !

Happy thanksgiving to all !

Thanks FD, night!

601 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:22:10pm

re: #597 Noam Sayin'

Holy shit.

I just witnessed Iron Fist, LGF's original Range Safety Officer, requesting information on a potential firearms purchase (which, in itself blows me away - 'cuz I thought he knew everything about everything ever manufactured), and within moments be provided said information.

Kudos, Wishing, for your google-fu.

/points off for not realizing Fist knew the ins and outs of the Mossberg 20.

Hey now, points off? No no! I was just sharing from my own experience!
Mossberg does the job!

602 Worrell-Rimshot 2012!  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:22:27pm

Sounds like the NSG is about to storm the Trident hotel.

603 least  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:22:27pm

re: #591 Killian Bundy

/so they deserve to be mass murdered?

If you ain't part of the ummah, you ain't nothin' but a bug on their windshield.

604 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:22:57pm

And I think it good night for me also, mates. Happy Thanksgiving to all, especially Bella!

605 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:23:03pm

re: #577 LoFlyer

definitely simpler.

606 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:23:05pm

Is anyone watching Rosie Live on channel 4?

My wife has it on and I would rather get tortured by Chinese Agents than sit through 5 more minutes of this rubbish.

607 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:23:09pm

re: #584 Killgore Trout

The are also polytheists and calf worshipers.

Yet the jihadis worship a rock, so what's the diff?

608 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:23:22pm

So 5 Israelis in Trident, 5 in Nariman House. May they have MUCH strength!

609 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:13pm

re: #604 LoFlyer

And I think it good night for me also, mates. Happy Thanksgiving to all, especially Bella!

Happy Thanksgiving Loflyer. take care.

610 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:25pm

re: #592 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The hell with being on your toes, hide your wallet!

I suspect Obama will do a back door tax increase by inflating the currency. We are going to go back to Carter days and 12% inflation, I think.

611 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:29pm

re: #575 3 wood

Best Grand Champion Hall of Famer talent in my book is Laurie Dhue.

Megyn Kelly not bad in 2nd place though.

Oh, hells, yeah.

Let's include native Minnesotan, Gretchen Carlson, for honorable mention (from a discussion with Walter last night, who proclaimed a "men are men, and so are the women" type adage about Minnesota women. I couldn't disagree more, and believe Mrs. Carlson has filled out nicely.

612 stevieray  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:36pm

re: #599 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Yeah, but not the entire game showing every play.

True 'nuff, but they let you choose some pretty weird camera feeds, like the sideline cam, the overhead cam, the cheerleader cam, etc...

/only kidding about the last one. sigh.

613 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:38pm

re: #579 Sharmuta

History of Jihad against the Hindus

Hindus are not "people of the book" either- no dhimmitude for them.

Au contraire. By some estimates, anywhere from 80-300 million Hindus have been slaughtered by muslim overlords. Paying jizya, slavery, etc., Hindus have had to do it all.

614 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:24:42pm

Ho boy, Canadians in there! (maybe)

615 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:25:03pm

re: #603 least

If you ain't part of the ummah, you ain't nothin' but a bug on their windshield.

Yeah, I get that.

/Killgore just spends hours thinking how he can turn all current events into a snark on religion

616 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:25:18pm

re: #606 Maximu§

Is anyone watching Rosie Live on channel 4?

My wife has it on and I would rather get tortured by Chinese Agents than sit through 5 more minutes of this rubbish.

I watched the 1st 18 seconds, couldn't beleive how terrible she looked (even with hours of prep-make-up before her 'live" show) heard her voice and CLICK !

617 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:25:21pm

Car bomb explodes outside US embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan per CNN.

618 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:25:53pm

re: #606 Maximu§

Is anyone watching Rosie Live on channel 4?

They should have used that at GITMO.

5 minutes of Rosie and I'd confess to blowing up the Hindenburg.

619 pottymouth1  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:25:55pm

re: #606 Maximu§

That's the reason the left has problems with torture, those poor bastards at Gitmo weren't waterboarded, they had to watch Rosie and The View

620 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:26:05pm

re: #617 NJDhockeyfan

Car bomb explodes outside US embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan per CNN.

Copycats

621 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:26:35pm

re: #617 NJDhockeyfan

Car bomb explodes outside US embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan per CNN.

This is getting uglier by the moment!

622 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:26:53pm

re: #616 sattv4u2

I watched the 1st 18 seconds, couldn't beleive how terrible she looked (even with hours of prep-make-up before her 'live" show) heard her voice and CLICK !

Its really gone over the top since then...

623 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:02pm

re: #610 3 wood

I suspect Obama will do a back door tax increase by inflating the currency. We are going to go back to Carter days and 12% inflation, I think.


I read that the Japanese are asking for "Carter Treasuries", i.e., Treasuries denominated in yen, to be instituted again. Any suggestions what us American peons can do (buy FDIC-insured CD's in different currencies?) to guard against high inflation?

624 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:10pm

re: #606 Maximu§

Is anyone watching Rosie Live on channel 4?

My wife has it on and I would rather get tortured by Chinese Agents than sit through 5 more minutes of this rubbish.

I'd rather have my nuts chewed off by rabid dogs than watch that disgusting pig.

625 moogie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:33pm

Happy Thanksgiving y'all - from one blessed new hatchling!

626 3 wood  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:42pm

Good night all.

627 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:45pm

re: #617 NJDhockeyfan

Car bomb explodes outside US embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan per CNN.

/good luck killing any Americans, that's like the second most defended U.S. Embassy in the world

628 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:27:58pm

re: #613 Irene NYC

Au contraire. By some estimates, anywhere from 80-300 million Hindus have been slaughtered by muslim overlords. Paying jizya, slavery, etc., Hindus have had to do it all.

True- there is the pyramid scheme aspect of dhimmitude that's hard to resist.

629 Arby Dwiar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:28:06pm

re: #623 Irene NYC

Gold.

630 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:28:14pm

re: #618 3 wood

They should have used that at GITMO.

5 minutes of Rosie and I'd confess to blowing up the Hindenburg, the Lindburgh kidnappings , being Charles Mansons mentor, the Hillside murders, all of the Boston Stranglings, being the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll shooting at JFK ,,, .


fixed

631 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:28:17pm

re: #558 Noam Sayin'

Charles must be very proud right now.

Many times we go Off-Topic at the drop of a hat; skewing away from the issue at hand, which must frustrate him at times.

But here we are, on the eve of one of our most important holidays, and even though the thread is interspersed with recipes for that perfect holiday meal, and the inevitable drinking thread, we're still on-point with the world's major concern.

I'm proud to hang out with you f'ers.

May I disagree with you? This is an Open Thread. No where in my conception of an Open Thread is the idea that we must adhere to whatever is going on in the world.

Oh, hell. I don't know what to say. I'm gonna' be inarticulate.

We're still Americans. No matter what is going on anywhere else in the world, THIS IS THE GREATEST NATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE.

Never forget that, Lizards. They hate us because they are evil, because they cannot grasp a single scintilla of what LIBERTY means. They are driven by Satan himself.

I'm not saying that we should completely ignore the carnage of today. Not at all.

I'm merely trying to say that WE SHOULD NOT LET THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS ROB US OF OUR ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE OUR HERITAGE.

632 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:28:22pm

re: #601 Wishing

Mossberg does the job!

True dat. But Fist probably already knew that.

BTW, Fist. Picking up the Ruger KGP141 as soon as the "permit to purchase" comes through - week and a half, maybe. Damn, that's a nice piece of machinery. Thanks for your input on that search.

Can't wait...

633 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:28:25pm

Things may be heating up in Hamtramck again - rape trial of a 15-year-old by 27-year-old Jamrul Hussain fell apart - his two-year old is missing "from his locked car" - all that plus local politician Scott Klein called Muslim community leaders a bunch of extremists.

634 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:28:37pm

re: #622 Maximu§

Its really gone over the top since then...

I'll give the show 10 weeks

635 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:29:35pm
636 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:29:45pm

re: #631 MandyManners

That sounded very articulate to me.

637 FightingBack  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:29:51pm

re: #634 sattv4u2

I'll give the show 10 weeks

I wouldn't give it 10 seconds.

638 Arby Dwiar  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:29:55pm

re: #633 LC LaWedgie

Yikes...

639 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:30:19pm

What Mandy said.

640 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:30:31pm

re: #617 NJDhockeyfan

Car bomb explodes outside US embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan per CNN.

OK, what does Biden know and when did he know it?
/

641 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:31:09pm

re: #638 Arby Dwiar

Yeah, like Detroit didn't have enough problems.

642 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:31:11pm

re: #640 Alouette

OK, what does Biden know and when did he know it?
/

nothing,,, forever!

643 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:32:49pm

Gun battle rage between terrorists and commandos

MUMBAI: Gun battles raged between terrorists and commandos and fresh explosions on Thursday rocked two luxury hotels -Taj and Trident (Oberoi) - after a night of terror targeting ten places in the country's financial capital killed over 100 people and in jured over 300.

Sharp shooters of army, NSG and other security forces moved into Mumbai's landmark hotels to overwhelm an unspecified number of terrorists still holed out there after several residents were rescued in the wee hours.

Police believe that the number of terrorists could be three or four.

Raging fire and plumes of black smoke were seen billowing from the central dome of the century-old heritage Taj hotel opposite the Gateway of India this morning as firemen struggled to douse them.

A guest stranded in one of the rooms said two explosions shook the building.

Another luxury hotel Trident was under siege with some terrorists holding some foreigners hostage.

A tourist guide was worried about the fate of five Canadians he had put up in that hotel.

Earlier in the night, explosions were heard in the hotel.

Exchange of fire intensified at Nariman House, a residential complex with a Jewish prayer hall, where also a hostage situation was prevailing.

There were unconfirmed reports of a similar situation in Cama hospital.

As last night's terror incidents spread a sense of panic and fear in the metropolis, schools and colleges were ordered closed and the Bombay Stock Exchange will not function on Thursday.

Suburban trains and city buses operated normally but without usual rush. Except for cancellation of three international flights, domestic air services to Mumbai were maintained.

644 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:33:02pm

re: #631 MandyManners

I think you just backed up my point, Mandy. Here on this night, we could easily forget about what troubles exist in India right now, yet we're still largely on topic.

And for that, I'm sure many are proud.

We rule.

645 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:33:20pm

re: #632 Noam Sayin'

True dat. But Fist probably already knew that.

BTW, Fist. Picking up the Ruger KGP141 as soon as the "permit to purchase" comes through - week and a half, maybe. Damn, that's a nice piece of machinery. Thanks for your input on that search.

Can't wait...

My new toy: P220 Carry Elite

646 ohiogirl20  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:33:31pm

Hi, new here.
How many people have to be murdered and injured before terrorism will be seen for what it is and those people who claim to want freedom for everyone, agree that the only response is serious force?
Hearing the reporter hint that maybe the Jews/Israelis are behind the attack is unbelievable.

647 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:33:46pm

From Twitter Mumbai:
A LeT terrorist has been arrested. An e-mail has been traced to a Russian IP address.

648 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:34:05pm

re: #640 Alouette

OK, what does Biden know and when did he know it?
/

This is all I can find right now...

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) Afghan police: Suicide car bomb explodes 300 yards outside US Embassy gate in Kabul.

649 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:34:30pm
650 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:34:56pm

re: #647 Pvt Bin Jammin

From Twitter Mumbai:
A LeT terrorist has been arrested. An e-mail has been traced to a Russian IP address.


This was already ugly. But that is really ugly.

651 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:35:06pm

re: #636 MrPaulRevere

That sounded very articulate to me.

Clean also?

652 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:35:31pm

re: #648 NJDhockeyfan

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) Afghan police: Suicide car bomb explodes 300 yards outside US Embassy gate in Kabul.

/good shooting Marine

653 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:35:35pm

re: #650 Irene NYC

This was already ugly. But that is really ugly.

We still talking about the new Rosie O show !?!?!?!

/

654 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:35:39pm

re: #612 stevieray

I watch from this website out of Europe here. They have all the NFL games every week (and about every other sport) so I can watch my beloved Bears.
Click on the American Football tab, find the game you want to watch, and click on the little TV icon to the far right. They'll usually list several feeds, but there's a ranking for quality of each ones feed, so many stars out of five.

655 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:36:02pm

Five minutes of Rosie and I think I'd welcome the sweet sweet embrace of death.

Actually, I think I would be upset that death and her sweet embrace didn't show up five minutes earlier.

656 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:36:40pm

re: #624 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'd rather have my nuts chewed off by rabid dogs than watch that disgusting pig.

~smiling~
Now that sounds like a scene you would see in Sin City (That is a cool movie).

657 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:36:55pm

re: #650 Irene NYC

Indeed. No link was given over there so I can't verify it. Apparently one of the terrorists appeared on TV earlier as well.

658 Nylecoj  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:37:34pm

re: #371 LoFlyer

I think they are lowballing the casualties. I bet there will nearer to 150 dead after this is over and done...

IBN is saying 100 now dead

659 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:37:47pm

re: #653 sattv4u2

We still talking about the new Rosie O show !?!?!?!

/

No, satt. THAT is sui generis!
;)

660 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:38:16pm

Good evening all y'all - sorry I'm late. What have I missed (and I haven't missed the tragedy in India)?

661 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:38:18pm

re: #646 ohiogirl20

Hi, new here.
How many people have to be murdered and injured before terrorism will be seen for what it is and those people who claim to want freedom for everyone, agree that the only response is serious force?
Hearing the reporter hint that maybe the Jews/Israelis are behind the attack is unbelievable.

Wow ohiogirl, 1 post and batting 1.000 in the karma department! Upding for that!

662 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:38:26pm

re: #653 sattv4u2

We still talking about the new Rosie O show !?!?!?!

/

The old Rosie O is bad enough I shudder to think what damage the new Rosie would do.

663 bellamags  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:38:29pm

goodnight and Happy Thanksgiving Lizards.

664 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:38:35pm

re: #645 Wishing

Want.

665 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:39:18pm

re: #664 Noam Sayin'

Want.

Got. *grin*

Actually, I got a heck of a deal on it!

666 tokyobk  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:39:27pm

If it has not been mentioned yet, the Chabad House (Jewish outreach) is under seige in Mumbai right now.

667 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:39:52pm

re: #282 Iron Fist

Hell, hate them back.

Works for me.

668 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:39:56pm

re: #646 ohiogirl20

Hi Ohiogirl, I assume you're tending bar since this has been declared the FNDT

669 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:39:59pm

re: #648 NJDhockeyfan

This is all I can find right now...

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) Afghan police: Suicide car bomb explodes 300 yards outside US Embassy gate in Kabul.

I didn't see the Mennonites at Wal-Mart wearing their stylish clothes earlier today like I usually do.

///

670 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:40:07pm

re: #666 tokyobk

If it has not been mentioned yet, the Chabad House (Jewish outreach) is under seige in Mumbai right now.

I fear that the body count is going to be high. -sigh-

671 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:40:19pm

This has to be tough for European news stations. "Asians" are attacking, um, other "Asians", because, um, well . . .

672 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:40:25pm
673 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:41:05pm

re: #662 FurryOldGuyJeans

The old Rosie O is bad enough I shudder to think what damage the new Rosie would do.

think "THE VIEW" without Barbara Walters TRYING to restrian her and Hasslebeck trying to counter her!

674 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:41:18pm

re: #627 Killian Bundy

/good luck killing any Americans, that's like the second most defended U.S. Embassy in the world

Massoud Circle - it is outside the embassy but blocks away. This is the main road to the airport and leads to the JBad road. One of the favorite places to attack.

675 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:42:10pm

re: #54 gmsc

Concerning the numerous "bailouts" - have you noticed the term "corporate welfare" seems to have disappeared? Let's bring it back!

I have heard today that the total bailout figure exceeds (in today's dollars) the cost of the Louisiana Purchase, The Marshall Plan, the Vietnam War, NASA, and The Iraqi War.

Combined.

676 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:42:13pm

re: #673 sattv4u2

think "THE VIEW" without Barbara Walters TRYING to restrian her and Hasslebeck trying to counter her!

I wasn't talking about the show, but about the bloated mound of flesh.

677 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:42:55pm

re: #666 tokyobk

If it has not been mentioned yet, the Chabad House (Jewish outreach) is under seige in Mumbai right now.

Where are you getting news on the Chabad House ? I can't find anything on Fox or CNN . . .

678 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:43:03pm

re: #662 FurryOldGuyJeans

The old Rosie O is bad enough I shudder to think what damage the new Rosie would do.

She looks like a White Whale on that stage...wheres Captain Ahab when you need him.

679 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:43:04pm

re: #675 rawmuse

I have heard today that the total bailout figure exceeds (in today's dollars) the cost of the Louisiana Purchase, The Marshall Plan, the Vietnam War, NASA, and The Iraqi War.

Combined.

You were listening to Rush, I do believe.

680 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:43:04pm

re: #672 Iron Fist

Pretty. I could drop a hundred grand on firearms in about 15 minutes, and still not have everything I want. Over the summer one of the local shops had a semi-automatic M-2 heavy machinegun with 12,000 rounds of belted ammo. It sold in just a few weeks.

Walkaway price was nearly $25K. And it was really a good deal at that.

I am partial to handguns, myself. But the machine gun sure MAY come in quite handy. Had the owner become disillusioned, or just needed the cash?
That is some serious $$$ ammo!

681 pottymouth1  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:43:46pm

re: #673 sattv4u2

think "THE VIEW" without Barbara Walters TRYING to restrian her and Hasslebeck trying to counter her!

You can't stop Rosie, you can only try to contain her.

682 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:44:04pm

re: #677 reine.de.tout

Where are you getting news on the Chabad House ? I can't find anything on Fox or CNN . . .

Live feed

683 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:44:08pm

Well, that's interesting. I went to Le Monde to see how they were reporting the Kabul bombing, and I didn't know this, but apparently, suicide bombers are called kamikazes by the French. As in:

ll a pu voir ce qui lui semblait être le corps d'un kamikaze. (Translation: He could see what seemed to him to be the body of a kamikaze.)


Do you think the Fwench use that Japanese term so that they don't insult the muslims in their country?

/No, I'm not taking bets here.

684 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:44:12pm

re: #678 Maximu§

She looks like a White Whale on that stage...wheres Captain Ahab when you need him.

Down below filling the bilge with whatever he ate for the last week I would imagine.

685 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:44:31pm

re: #676 FurryOldGuyJeans

I wasn't talking about the show, but about the bloated mound of flesh.

me too ,,, "restrain her" from the buffet table !

686 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:44:55pm

re: #675 rawmuse

I have heard today that the total bailout figure exceeds (in today's dollars) the cost of the Louisiana Purchase, The Marshall Plan, the Vietnam War, NASA, and The Iraqi War.

Combined.

And Rosie's weekly food bill.

687 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:02pm
688 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:08pm

If we add in the Citi bailout, the total cost now exceeds $4.6165 trillion dollars. People have a hard time conceptualizing very large numbers, so let’s give this some context. The current Credit Crisis bailout is now the largest outlay In American history.

Jim Bianco of Bianco Research crunched the inflation adjusted numbers. The bailout has cost more than all of these big budget government expenditures – combined:

• Marshall Plan: Cost: $12.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $115.3 billion
• Louisiana Purchase: Cost: $15 million, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $217 billion
• Race to the Moon: Cost: $36.4 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $237 billion
• S&L Crisis: Cost: $153 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $256 billion
• Korean War: Cost: $54 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $454 billion
• The New Deal: Cost: $32 billion (Est), Inflation Adjusted Cost: $500 billion (Est)
• Invasion of Iraq: Cost: $551b, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $597 billion
• Vietnam War: Cost: $111 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $698 billion
• NASA: Cost: $416.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $851.2 billion

689 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:20pm

re: #679 FurryOldGuyJeans

I do the podcast. Rush fact checks pretty good. If he doesn't he would not have lasted this long.

690 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:23pm

re: #666 tokyobk
Sorry for my ignorance but who is holding it and who is besieging it, do you know?!

691 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:27pm

re: #151 gmsc

Mumbai context post:

Mumbai (the city proper) is roughly the same size as Chicago (the city proper), but with more than 4 times as many people as Chicago (the city proper). With 13,662,885 people, it's the most populous city proper in the world.

Another way to think of Mumbai (the city proper) is that it's size is 25% smaller than New York City (the city proper), but with 65% more people than NYC!

Mumbai's time zone is +5:30 UTC (GMT + 5.5 hours).

Google Map of the area concerned

692 Maximu§  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:48pm

re: #684 FurryOldGuyJeans

Down below filling the bilge with whatever he ate for the last week I would imagine.

I'd hate to be the swabbie who has to clean that mess out.

693 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:50pm

re: #685 sattv4u2

Fat tub of Goo best describes her.

694 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:53pm

re: #675 rawmuse

I have heard today that the total bailout figure exceeds (in today's dollars) the cost of the Louisiana Purchase, The Marshall Plan, the Vietnam War, NASA, and The Iraqi War.

Combined.

Stand-by, stand-by ... you ain't seen nothing yet. They're just getting warmed up. Much to our grandkids regret.

695 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:45:56pm

re: #685 sattv4u2

me too ,,, "restrain her" from the buffet table !

Oh man, put Rosie and Michael Moore 10 paces apart, and a cheeseburger in between 'em.

696 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:46:38pm

re: #688 LC LaWedgie

It boggles the mind.

697 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:46:46pm

re: #677 reine.de.tout

Where are you getting news on the Chabad House ? I can't find anything on Fox or CNN . . .

Google News feed, arranged by date: [Link: news.google.com...]

698 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:46:47pm

re: #690 realwest

Sorry for my ignorance but who is holding it and who is besieging it, do you know?!

it is part of the same assault ( there are at least 11 different places where the gunmen attacked)

The Indian Military and/ or police are attempting to rout out the terrorists from all places

699 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:00pm

re: #649 Iron Fist

Yeah, I hate the technicality, because I had a great deal on a Bersa .380 recently and couldn't buy because my permit expired a month or two before. If I could find some satisfaction in a fact that the law inhibited criminals from buying guns I might be more in favor of it. But after finding a 9mm casing in my driveway back in January, fired by a 19 year old kid, I get a little pissed off that I have to go down to the courthouse and ask the cop who already knows me from shooting classes, and ask him for a permit to purchase handguns that he already knows I own.

700 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:07pm

re: #693 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Fat tub of Goo best describes her.

thats an insult to fat tubs of goo

701 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:10pm

Turkey Fryer Gone Wrong

When I left the grocery store today the firefighters were ringing the bell and I threw all the cash in my pocket into their boot, as opposed to the "Red Kettle". They'll be busy tomorrow.

/what's the over/under on the number of houses burned to the ground by Turkey fryers?

702 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:10pm

re: #696 rawmuse

half the GNP.

703 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:26pm

re: #690 realwest

Sorry for my ignorance but who is holding it and who is besieging it, do you know?!

Those damn Mennonites.

704 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:26pm

re: #665 Wishing

Got. *grin*

Bastard.

705 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:47:31pm

8 cases of RDX?

706 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:13pm

re: #705 Syrah

8 cases of RDX?

Oh, 8 "Kilos" of RDX.

707 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:22pm

re: #690 realwest

re: #698 sattv4u2

it is part of the same assault ( there are at least 11 different places where the gunmen attacked)

The Indian Military and/ or police are attempting to rout out the terrorists from all places

REAL ,, the hotel has the most hostages and is the biggest "target" is the reason the media is focusing on that

708 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:23pm

re: #696 rawmuse

It boggles the mind.

Obviously not the mind of congress.

We voted and gave them control of our pursestrings.

709 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:25pm

re: #699 Noam Sayin'

Is there any way that the Zero could do one of those Executive Orders and restrict our purchasing of ANY weapon we want? Like, on Jan 21st?

710 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:26pm

Report: Mumbai Terrorists Abducted Chabad Rabbi's Family


(IsraelNN.com) Muslim terrorists in Mumbai reportedly have abducted Chabad Rabbi Gabriel, his wife Rivka and their two small children. Indian television reported that six Israelis are being held hostage.

The Foreign Ministry has not confirmed the report, and its last official statement was that no contact has been made with them. It added that 20 Israelis are missing since the terrorist attack Wednesday night.

Indian media reported that a couple and their teenage son, none of them Israelis, were killed in the Chabad House, called the Nariman House. One terrorist also was killed. Gunfire occasionally has been heard from the building, which the army has surrounded.

At least 101 people, including five terrorists, have died since the attacks began, and 600 others have been wounded. The terrorists have held more than 250 people as hostages in the Chabad House, a hospital and luxury hotels.

Several other Israelis have maintained telephone contact from their eight floor hotel rooms. The Chabad website reported that "the situation is grim." Commando forces have arrived by sea and are battling the terrorists in an effort to rescue the hostage victims.

The sophisticated terrorist attacks, the worst ever in Mumbai and India, hit nine locations as Mumbai is involved in elections. The terrorists struck with automatic weapons and grenades.

711 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:33pm

8kg of RDX found near Taj Mahal Hotel.

What's RDX?

712 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:37pm

re: #700 sattv4u2

thats an insult to fat tubs of goo

LOL

713 Dustyvet  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:53pm

re: #27 A Kiwi Infidel

What happened? Everyone leave the room?

I as over at You Tube watching the NZ All Blacks doing a Haka...

714 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:48:58pm

re: #701 Killian Bundy

Turkey Fryer Gone Wrong

When I left the grocery store today the firefighters were ringing the bell and I threw all the cash in my pocket into their boot, as opposed to the "Red Kettle". They'll be busy tomorrow.

/what's the over/under on the number of houses burned to the ground by Turkey fryers?

depends ,,, north or south of the Mason/ dixon line !?!?!?

715 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:49:31pm

re: #701 Killian Bundy

Turkey Fryer Gone Wrong

When I left the grocery store today the firefighters were ringing the bell and I threw all the cash in my pocket into their boot, as opposed to the "Red Kettle". They'll be busy tomorrow.

/what's the over/under on the number of houses burned to the ground by Turkey fryers?

Tell the people to defrost the turkey first!

716 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:49:32pm

re: #710 NJDhockeyfan

Oh dear Lord.

717 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:49:36pm

re: #694 Bobibutu

Stand-by, stand-by ... you ain't seen nothing yet. They're just getting warmed up. Much to our grandkids regret.

As Rush stated the figure used to arrive at that grandiose debt is old news. More bailout spending, proposed or actual, nearly doubles that figure. Our Messiah-King ain't even in office and the new Congress has yet to meet, and even the current estimate will be a pittance before they get done.

718 Syrah  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:49:49pm

re: #711 gop_patriot

8kg of RDX found near Taj Mahal Hotel.

What's RDX?

RDX

719 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:04pm

re: #688 LC LaWedgie
I went to your link and, aside from not recognizing it, don't see how they come up with $4.6165 trillion dollars.

720 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:11pm

If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.

I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.

And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.

From Detroit down to Houston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.

That I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

And I’m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

721 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:15pm

It just occurred to me how sleazy it was of the Fwench to appropriate the term kamikaze to describe suicide bombers because, of course, the Japanese kamikaze were official military attacking military targets.

Sadly, the same cannot be said of those "valient" islamic terrorists.
*spit*

722 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:24pm

re: #702 LC LaWedgie

half the GNP.

If that is so, then we are now defacto a Nationalized economy.

723 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:40pm

re: #711 gop_patriot

8kg of RDX found near Taj Mahal Hotel.

What's RDX?

A very powerful explosive. Fairly volatile, too.

724 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:46pm

re: #711 gop_patriot

8kg of RDX found near Taj Mahal Hotel.

What's RDX?

Go boom, I believe.

Even googling it will probably get you on a list.

725 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:50:58pm

re: #711 gop_patriot

8kg of RDX found near Taj Mahal Hotel.

What's RDX?

An explosive - military grade.

726 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:51:13pm

"Fidayeens dropped in Mumbai on Wednesday evening
It has come out that the terrorists orchestrating the deadly fidayeen attack in Mumbai reached the city on that day itself. These men from Lashkar-e-Toiba were divided in pairs of two and were asked to fire indiscriminately in crowded places."
[Link: www.merinews.com...]

727 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:51:17pm

RDX is also used as a major component of many plastic bonded explosives used in nuclear weapons.

728 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:51:29pm

re: #718 Syrah

RDX

Thank you.

729 spirochete  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:51:30pm

I have a question for gun savvy lizards. I always hear gunfire reported as "sounding like firecrackers". When I fired my Colt American 2000 9 mm handgun into a tree in the back yard, it sounded like a cannon went off and the police were patrolling soon thereafter.

What makes the difference?

730 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:51:30pm
731 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:51:59pm

re: #717 FurryOldGuyJeans

As Rush stated the figure used to arrive at that grandiose debt is old news. More bailout spending, proposed or actual, nearly doubles that figure. Our Messiah-King ain't even in office and the new Congress has yet to meet, and even the current estimate will be a pittance before they get done.

Yeppers.

732 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:52:11pm

re: #698 sattv4u2
So are the terr's inside already or are the Indians fighting to keep 'em out?

733 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:52:12pm

re: #711 gop_patriot

8kg of RDX found near Taj Mahal Hotel.

What's RDX?

An explosive.

734 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:52:13pm

re: #636 MrPaulRevere

That sounded very articulate to me.

Oh, thank you. I had/have a gamillion thoughts bouncing around my skull.

735 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:52:21pm

I'm getting the Al-Beeb feed- one of the witnesses made passing references to the Chabad.

736 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:52:42pm

re: #729 spirochete

I have a question for gun savvy lizards. I always hear gunfire reported as "sounding like firecrackers". When I fired my Colt American 2000 9 mm handgun into a tree in the back yard, it sounded like a cannon went off and the police were patrolling soon thereafter.

What makes the difference?

Distance and caliber.

737 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:52:54pm

re: #729 spirochete

I have a question for gun savvy lizards. I always hear gunfire reported as "sounding like firecrackers". When I fired my Colt American 2000 9 mm handgun into a tree in the back yard, it sounded like a cannon went off and the police were patrolling soon thereafter.

What makes the difference?

you were what ,, an arms length at most behind the weapon? SO ,,, your ear was maybe 3 feet away ,, at MOST

738 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:00pm

re: #729 spirochete

Size of the round. A .22 can be mistaken for firecrackers.
My 1911, no way. It goes ka-f*ckin'-BOOM!

739 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:07pm

re: #729 spirochete

I have a question for gun savvy lizards. I always hear gunfire reported as "sounding like firecrackers". When I fired my Colt American 2000 9 mm handgun into a tree in the back yard, it sounded like a cannon went off and the police were patrolling soon thereafter.

What makes the difference?

Distance.

740 ohiogirl20  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:21pm

re: #668 Neo Con since 9-11

Well there isn't any handy and I'm not legally allowed to buy alcohol in the USA.
cheers!

741 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:21pm

Thanks everyone. If RDX is military grade, does that mean it's traceable?

742 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:22pm

re: #721 Irene NYC

It just occurred to me how sleazy it was of the Fwench to appropriate the term kamikaze to describe suicide bombers because, of course, the Japanese kamikaze were official military attacking military targets.

Sadly, the same cannot be said of those "valient" islamic terrorists.
*spit*

The liberal media has blurred the line. You are absolutely correct.

743 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:26pm

re: #701 Killian Bundy

Turkey Fryer Gone Wrong

When I left the grocery store today the firefighters were ringing the bell and I threw all the cash in my pocket into their boot, as opposed to the "Red Kettle". They'll be busy tomorrow.

/what's the over/under on the number of houses burned to the ground by Turkey fryers?

I think I'll go to the Wal-Mart and get a couple pounds of smoked turkey breast. Thanks for ruining Thanksgiving, KB.

744 spirochete  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:27pm

re: #736 Wishing

Distance and caliber.

So from across the valley, it would've sounded like a fircracker?

745 Russkilitlover  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:29pm

re: #710 NJDhockeyfan

WTF?

(wonder if Barry has s#!t his pants yet.)

746 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:34pm

re: #732 realwest

So are the terr's inside already or are the Indians fighting to keep 'em out?

terr in ,,, army/ police massing out ,,, siege soon,,,

747 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:38pm

re: #730 Iron Fist

I don't know what the story was. That's a hell of a lot of capital that was put into one weapon. I didn't even get to see it myself. It didn't last very long. Here is the ad. I mis-remembered the quantity of the ammo, but I also forgot that there was APIT in it. I'd have loved to buy this gun. I don't really know what I'd do with it. I don't have a big enough room in my house to actually set it up.

Dreaming is good for the soul!

748 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:42pm

re: #719 realwest
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

749 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:52pm

Hey real!

Nice to catch up with you here! My b-day is in 8 minutes. And yes, I'm already celebrating.
;)

750 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:53:55pm

re: #720 MandyManners

I have but one upding to give. Thanks for posting that! Tis true!

751 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:02pm

re: #711 gop_patriot

8kg of RDX found near Taj Mahal Hotel.

What's RDX?

Rid-ex. It cleans septic tanks.

752 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:06pm

re: #736 Wishing

Distance and caliber.

I yield to superior wisdom.

753 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:16pm

Did anyone else catch that?

On NDTV, when talking about the effects of the attacks, they said, "As a result, the BSE and NSE exchanges will be closed, along with many exchanges in the U.S.!"

Well, yes, U.S. exchanges are closed tomorrow, but . . .

754 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:25pm
755 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:31pm

hello Night Lizards! It was coolish in the Near Iowa this Thanksgiving's Eve.

I thought this was a kewl story from John Kass. The Power of Horta, and no, it's not a Star Trek reference.

How are you-all this evening and what are we talking about?

756 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:41pm

re: #741 gop_patriot

Thanks everyone. If RDX is military grade, does that mean it's traceable?

Yes

757 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:56pm

re: #744 spirochete

So from across the valley, it would've sounded like a fircracker?

If it was a 22lr, you probably wouldn't have heard it at all, depending on direction breeze was blowing.

758 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:54:59pm

re: #708 Bobibutu Whatcha mean "we"?!
/

759 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:55:04pm

re: #639 Sharmuta

What Mandy said.

Why, thank you, dear lady.

It's a fucked-up world.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

I LOVE YOU, SHARMUTA.

760 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:55:34pm

re: #729 spirochete

I have a question for gun savvy lizards. I always hear gunfire reported as "sounding like firecrackers". When I fired my Colt American 2000 9 mm handgun into a tree in the back yard, it sounded like a cannon went off and the police were patrolling soon thereafter.

What makes the difference?

Small caliber, short barrel.

761 spirochete  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:55:58pm

re: #757 Wishing

If it was a 22lr, you probably wouldn't have heard it at all, depending on direction breeze was blowing.

Interesting, thanks for the info! Yes, I guess an arm's length away would make a difference!

762 NotaLib  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:56:06pm
763 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:56:07pm

re: #701 Killian Bundy

The boot is a great marketing angle. Who the hell doesn't want to throw a couple bucks into a fireman's boot?

My brother runs his turkey fryer on his deck. I asked him if he thought it might be a little unsafe, seeing as his deck is made of highly flammable - wood.

"Those stupid shits who burn their damn house down never had the forethought of measuring how much oil a turkey would displace."

My brother, love him dearly, for all his talents, isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. In fact, I'm certain he didn't so much as take one, non-required science class in high school. Yet when he bought the turkey fryer, he had the good sense to fill it with water, dunk the turkey, and then measure the level afterward, and subtract an inch or so for safety.

Why people don't understand this is a mystery to me.

Y'all know I hate turkey, but I like jcm's method.

764 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:56:07pm

re: #749 Irene NYC

Hey real!

Nice to catch up with you here! My b-day is in 8 minutes. And yes, I'm already celebrating.
;)

I'd sing the whole thing to you in person - but here - Happy Birthday to you.

765 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:56:17pm

Firing at Nariman House in South Mumbai intensifies

Mumbai: Exchange of fire intensified at Nariman House, a residential complex with a Jewish prayer hall, where also a hostage situation was prevailing. There were unconfirmed reports of a similar situation in Cama hospital. Window panes on third and fifth floor shattered.

Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh said the situation was "grave". He remarked that the terrorists could have come by boats.

Say some prayers...

766 Russkilitlover  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:56:41pm

re: #749 Irene NYC

Hey real!

Nice to catch up with you here! My b-day is in 8 minutes. And yes, I'm already celebrating.
;)

Happy, Happy Birthday, you turkey babe, you!

767 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:57:03pm

re: #722 rawmuse

Nowhere to go but there.

768 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:57:14pm

re: #615 Killian Bundy

/Killgore just spends hours thinking how he can turn all current events into a snark on religion


Yer god stinks.
/that took me 2 hours to think of.
//next...

769 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:57:26pm

re: #758 realwest

Whatcha mean "we"?!
/

Heh - the majority vote - not any Lizards I know of.

770 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:58:20pm

re: #644 Noam Sayin'

I think you just backed up my point, Mandy. Here on this night, we could easily forget about what troubles exist in India right now, yet we're still largely on topic.

And for that, I'm sure many are proud.

We rule.

Noam, this is an OPEN THREAD. By definition, there is NO set topic.

I am not advocating that we ignore the on-going horrors.

771 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:58:35pm

re: #749 Irene NYC

Happy Birthday!

772 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:59:13pm

re: #753 gmsc

Did anyone else catch that?

On NDTV, when talking about the effects of the attacks, they said, "As a result, the BSE and NSE exchanges will be closed, along with many exchanges in the U.S.!"

Well, yes, U.S. exchanges are closed tomorrow, but . . .

That's proof Chimpy BusHitler and Cheney knew ahead of time the terrorists were going to attack!

/KosKid

773 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:59:25pm

re: #709 Wishing

Is there any way that the Zero could do one of those Executive Orders and restrict our purchasing of ANY weapon we want? Like, on Jan 21st?

The Second Amendment tells me, "No."

774 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:59:25pm

re: #688 LC LaWedgie

that's truly amazing,
so, buying half of the US and financing Europe back to life was much cheaper than bailing out our financial geniuses.

775 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 8:59:37pm

re: #743 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I think I'll go to the Wal-Mart and get a couple pounds of smoked turkey breast. Thanks for ruining Thanksgiving, KB.

Just keep it outside and away from anything combusible.

/LGFer Ben Hur has his set up in the basement, oil fires are bad and water only makes it worse

776 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:00:17pm

re: #764 Bobibutu

re: #766 Russkilitlover

Thank you, both! I intend to have a marvelous day (and night) in NYC starting in 1 minute.
;)

777 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:00:22pm

re: #741 gop_patriot
Yeah, former LGFer reaganite who was on the USAF Bomb Squad (and worked with the Secret Service from time to time on checking for explosives in places the POTUS was to visit, said that ALL bombs leave what amounts to "fingerprints" and that experts can say where the components came from (explosive, timers, detonators) and where it was assembled.
So yeah, they can trace it.
And I'm betting money it's either from Iran or Pakistan.

778 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:00:29pm

re: #768 Killgore Trout

Yer god stinks.
/that took me 2 hours to think of.
//next...

Did it ever occur to you to be respectful of others who feel differently?

779 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:01:10pm

re: #778 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No, not really.

780 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:01:24pm

re: #777 realwest

Don't furgit Russia!

781 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:07pm

re: #778 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

people who want to start posting about be at LGF2 are more than welcome to do so. I'm not going to stop them.

782 wolfie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:20pm

re: #749 Irene NYC

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ! :D

783 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:23pm

re: #775 Killian Bundy

Just keep it outside and away from anything combusible.

/LGFer Ben Hur has his set up in the basement, oil fires are bad and water only makes it worse

So why in the basement? And I was joking about ruining my Thanksgiving.

784 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:25pm

re: #749 Irene NYC
Hot damn {Irene} Happy Birthday and many, many more!

785 Irene NYC  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:26pm

Okay, I'm out. Night all. Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.

786 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:26pm

re: #774 2by2

The French don't haggle well, I guess.

787 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:38pm

re: #720 MandyManners

Thanks for posting that, Mandy. One of my absolute favorites.

788 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:39pm
789 x-wing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:48pm

re: #776 Irene NYC

Happy Birthday. Could I interest you in a shot of Jagermiester?

790 spirochete  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:49pm

Anyone have any luck identifying the "mystery song" from a week or so ago?

[Link: shufflefunction.blogspot.com...]

I found an engineer who works at a studio on Riverside, Stan Ricker, and I emailed him but got no response.

791 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:02:56pm

re: #749 Irene NYC

Hey real!

Nice to catch up with you here! My b-day is in 8 minutes. And yes, I'm already celebrating.
;)

GOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLE!

792 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:03:00pm

re: #778 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Did it ever occur to you to be respectful of others who feel differently?

Respect for others from Killgore? Surely you jest, sir.

793 notutopia  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:03:05pm

I'm out. A nipper of cream sherry and prayers for the hostages.
Night all.

794 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:03:07pm

Went to a seniors singles party tonight.

One of the Gals is the ex of a mil pilot from the mid 40s. He put together a video gig on the [Link: www.george1recovery.org...]

See what I can do to record it.

795 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:03:16pm

re: #781 Killgore Trout

people who want to start posting about be at LGF2 are more than welcome to do so. I'm not going to stop them.

So if they don't agree with you they should leave?

796 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:03:33pm

re: #789 x-wing

Happy Birthday. Could I interest you in a shot of Jagermiester?

I don't think she or you would fit.

797 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:04:00pm

Repost of my #719 -

re: #688 LC LaWedgieI went to your link and, aside from not recognizing it, don't see how they come up with $4.6165 trillion dollars.

798 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:04:12pm

Folks, do not I repeat do not put an unthawed turkey in boiling oil!

799 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:04:27pm

re: #768 Killgore Trout

Yer god stinks.
/that took me 2 hours to think of.
//next...

God still loves KT.

800 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:04:47pm

What has always puzzled me is the U.S.'s "hands off" attitude towards India when they themselves are a democratic republic facing the threat of worldwide Islamofacist jihad.

My heart goes out to all the victims famalies.

801 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:05:08pm

re: #797 realwest

Hey RW! How you doin?

802 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:05:28pm

re: #786 LC LaWedgie

I'd say so, leave it to the hag(gler)s of citycorp to win the big price

803 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:05:30pm

re: #776 Irene NYC

re: #766 Russkilitlover

Thank you, both! I intend to have a marvelous day (and night) in NYC starting in 1 minute.
;)

NOW...Happy Birthday!

804 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:05:34pm

re: #800 unclassifiable

PIMF

families

805 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:05:36pm

re: #798 pingjockey

Folks, do not I repeat do not put an unthawed turkey in boiling oil!

What's a little boiling oil boil over and flames spread across your deck and thanksgiving?

Sounds festive!
//

806 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:05:42pm

re: #788 Iron Fist

Distance and the powder charge of the weapon. If the ammo fires a bullet faster than the speed of sound, you also have that feeding into the sound signature. When I was a kid I can remember hearing the loud crack of other hunters around where I was even though I was hundreds of yards away from them. And really big guns have sounds that are unmistakable. For example, a Barrett .50 has a fairly unique sound, and it is ungodly loud when you are close to it. When I went to Knob Creek, several years ago, there was a guy who had a quad .50. It sounded like he was turning on some gargantuan engine of destruction whenever he'd light it off. It would drown out all of the other .50s on the firing line.

Way cool. It was probably a quarter of a million dollars worth of firepower, and I wouldn't even want to hazard a guess as to how much money he was burning for every minute he fired the thing.

Tet - in Nam - lots of firecrackers - then the shooting started - still sounded like firecrackers.

807 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:05:44pm

re: #787 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks for posting that, Mandy. One of my absolute favorites.

You're welcome. It just kinda' "fits" if you know what I mean.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

808 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:06:02pm

re: #792 FurryOldGuyJeans

Respect for others from Killgore? Surely you jest, sir.

Here's an idea, just ignore him. She's like the bully in class in grade school. It's not worth it. And the bullies usually turn out to be the biggest crybabies.

809 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:06:13pm

re: #805 jcm

What's a little boiling oil boil over and flames spread across your deck and thanksgiving?

Sounds festive!
//

Bring plenty of marshmallows if you decide to drop the frozen turkey into the oil, eh?

810 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:06:14pm

9:30 AM here in Kabul on Thanksgiving and we are in "lock down" - no movement until further notice.
The terrror in India and the bomb here at Massoud Circle. Sigh.
One of the few times we get 2 days in a row off.
Not that there are many places we can go anyway. For those planning a Thanksgiving celebration in the afternoon today it could be a problem.
Our plans are (were?) for dinner at the Serena in Kabul early evening.
Wait and see.
Also planned to go to Delhi for a few days in mid Deccember. Wonder if we can get a refund on the tickets and visas?

811 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:06:31pm

Here's a situation you don't want to be in!

A friend of mine makes his living as a performing magician, and he has a big Thanksgiving show booked for tomorrow. This is a show that can be attended by the public, as has even been sold out for the past 4 days!

So what's the problem?

He's been promoting the show with his big finishing trick. 3 weeks ago, he sent a sealed, registered letter to the event organizer, which is to stay sealed until the end of tomorrow's show. Inside, he claims to have a prediction of the front page newspaper headline for Thursday, November 27th!

Yes, it's a trick. No, I won't go into the method (which I helped him develop).

The problem here is the psychology of the trick from the audience's point of view. It's all but certain tomorrow's headline will concern the attacks in India.

It's one thing to "predict" a headline such as "President-elect 0bama appoints so-and-so to such-and-such a position in his cabinet", where the audience can be impressed, applaud, and enjoy the illusion.

However, when you show you've "predicted" a headline about India being attacked, the audience attitude goes from, "Hey, that as neat and impressive" to "If we're really supposed to believe you predicted this, why didn't you warn anybody in India, or otherwise try to stop it?"

Yeah, that kind of puts a downer on the show as a whole.

812 itellu3times  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:06:45pm

re: #800 unclassifiable

What has always puzzled me is the U.S.'s "hands off" attitude towards India when they themselves are a democratic republic facing the threat of worldwide Islamofacist jihad.

It's a very different culture, that has been closer to the USSR than the USA in many ways ... until recently. It's a big, stable country. Not sure what "hands off" attitude you're referring to.

813 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:06:58pm

re: #805 jcm

What's a little boiling oil boil over and flames spread across your deck and thanksgiving?

Sounds festive!
//

I'll bring the marshmallows.

814 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:07:12pm

re: #773 Noam Sayin'

The Second Amendment tells me, "No."

Well dang, Noam, you just wrecked my excuse for stocking up on more stuff!

815 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:07:21pm

re: #756 Bobibutu

re: #777 realwest

I can only assume that now that they've found 8kgs of this stuff, it will be supremely helpful in identifying the origins of this terror attack . Good.

816 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:07:34pm

re: #770 MandyManners

Noam, this is an OPEN THREAD. By definition, there is NO set topic.

I am not advocating that we ignore the on-going horrors.

Neither am I. I simply stated that I though Charles would be proud that we, in an open thread, are still exchanging ideas on a major event that no doubt has the rest of the world concerned, yet many Americans might be inclined to ignore due to our holiday.

I'm proud as hell, myself.

I'm positive I've expressed this, forthrightly.

817 Cato the Elder  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:07:46pm

Transcript of the Chopra interview now up on CNN.com.

Money quote:

You know, there's 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. That's 25 percent of the population of the world. It's the fastest-growing religion in the world. We cannot, if we do not appease and actually recruit the help of this Muslim world, we're going to have a problem on our hands.

Yes, he said we must appease them. Chamberlain Chopra. And we're "going to have" a problem? Where has he spent the last decade?

At the end Larry King says, "Thanks, Deepak Chopra, as always, extraordinarily enlightening."

Got your enlightenment right here, Larry...

And why is it that the number of Moslems in the world seems to grow faster than the Federal bailout package? Last I heard it was 1.6 billion. So there have been 200,000,000 conreversions since then? Or the equivalent of two thirds of the population of the United States in new Moslem babies?

My head is spinning.

818 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:07:48pm

re: #808 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Here's an idea, just ignore him. She's like the bully in class in grade school. It's not worth it. And the bullies usually turn out to be the biggest crybabies.

Been doing that for quite some time now; I see the name and do a quick scroll over.

819 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:08:11pm

re: #780 Irene NYC
Nah, I don't think Russia is involved in this at all.
Still and all, the fact that there have been something like what, 600 attackers so far is more than just surprising to me - it's actually shocking.
I mean, India is 85% Hindu - accordiing to the CIA Factbook - and although most folks think the Hindu's are totally peaceful - they ain't.
Some bad mofo's are gonna pay a really heavy price they don't die fighting.

820 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:08:16pm

re: #805 jcm
Y'all have fun putting out a boiling oil fire! Not pretty.

821 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:08:45pm

re: #816 Noam Sayin'

Though = thought

PIFW

822 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:08:47pm

re: #810 LindaMarie

9:30 AM here in Kabul on Thanksgiving and we are in "lock down" - no movement until further notice.
The terrror in India and the bomb here at Massoud Circle. Sigh.
One of the few times we get 2 days in a row off.
Not that there are many places we can go anyway. For those planning a Thanksgiving celebration in the afternoon today it could be a problem.
Our plans are (were?) for dinner at the Serena in Kabul early evening.
Wait and see.
Also planned to go to Delhi for a few days in mid Deccember. Wonder if we can get a refund on the tickets and visas?

Sorry for the upset. I bow to your service. Vigilance and then go kick some ass.

823 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:08:55pm
824 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:09:13pm

re: #797 realwest

Well, the Bloomberg site says over seven... and the Bianco report says it costs more than that bunch combined.

825 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:09:25pm

re: #810 LindaMarie

9:30 AM here in Kabul on Thanksgiving and we are in "lock down" - no movement until further notice.
The terrror in India and the bomb here at Massoud Circle. Sigh.
One of the few times we get 2 days in a row off.
Not that there are many places we can go anyway. For those planning a Thanksgiving celebration in the afternoon today it could be a problem.
Our plans are (were?) for dinner at the Serena in Kabul early evening.
Wait and see.
Also planned to go to Delhi for a few days in mid Deccember. Wonder if we can get a refund on the tickets and visas?

/so, no Americans dead or wounded, right?

826 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:09:41pm

re: #818 FurryOldGuyJeans

Been doing that for quite some time now; I see the name and do a quick scroll over.

Sounds like a good idea.

827 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:09:51pm

666 tokyobok

If it has not been mentioned yet, the Chabad House (Jewish outreach) is under seige in Mumbai right now.

Chabad House is also known as Nariman House. There is a hostage situation inside, and gunfire has been heard. I have been following this -- a reporter just said "The people living in this house are Jews, Israeli nationals ... there is a Jewish prayer hall inside" ... the commandos are inside fighting with the terrorists, "one terrorist has been hit but we don't know whether he is dead or injured" says reporter on the live feed.

828 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:10:17pm

re: #824 LC LaWedgie

Well, the Bloomberg site says over seven... and the Bianco report says it costs more than that bunch combined.

I think it is possible know one knows WTF is going on. We are all just along for the ride.

829 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:10:18pm

re: #810 LindaMarie

9:30 AM here in Kabul on Thanksgiving and we are in "lock down" - no movement until further notice.
The terrror in India and the bomb here at Massoud Circle. Sigh.
One of the few times we get 2 days in a row off.
Not that there are many places we can go anyway. For those planning a Thanksgiving celebration in the afternoon today it could be a problem.
Our plans are (were?) for dinner at the Serena in Kabul early evening.
Wait and see.
Also planned to go to Delhi for a few days in mid Deccember. Wonder if we can get a refund on the tickets and visas?

Do you ever get to hear this?

830 wolfie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:10:26pm

re: #807 MandyManners

I'd never seen the video before. Nice one!

831 pingjockey  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:10:42pm

Good night folks. Have a Fine weekend/Thanksgiving. Goodnight!

832 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:11:02pm

re: #828 rawmuse

Oba-Won will provide.

833 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:11:22pm

re: #820 pingjockey

Y'all have fun putting out a boiling oil fire! Not pretty.

What's the problem? If you have a boiling oil fire, you just throw a little water on it to put it out, right?

NOTE: DO NOT TAKE THAT SUGGESTION SERIOUSLY! CLICK THE LINK TO SEE THE DANGERS OF THROWING WATER ON A BOILING OIL FIRE!

834 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:11:26pm

bbib

835 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:11:28pm

re: #825 Killian Bundy

/so, no Americans dead or wounded, right?

So far no, but the situation is not one where those fighting back against the jihadis have the time to stop and hold a press conference.

836 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:11:36pm

re: #801 ggt Hey ggt - I'm doing ok, I guess - heartsick about what's going on in India though. And very, VERY FUCKING ANGRY.
What kind of "warriors" are these that only attack unarmed civilians to begin with? And if they had a chance these people would flee from the police/Army and somehow they think by killing unarmed civilians they are "warriors for Allah"? Bullshit, just fucking cowards is all they are.

837 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:11:40pm

re: #814 Wishing

Well dang, Noam, you just wrecked my excuse for stocking up on more stuff!

What you might see, I doubt it would be an EO, is a tax on ammo and firearms. Or like OSHA tried last year reclass ammo as high explosive making the sale and storage of ammo very difficult. I am going to buy some ammo as soon as the panic dies down a bit, $400 a thousand for .308 is a bit step.

I did do a little economic stimulation a buy some optics for my "black rifle." Got a better deal than that though.

838 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:12:06pm

re: #821 Noam Sayin'

Can we hug?

839 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:12:28pm

Watched a good movie tonight "TranSiberian"

840 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:12:41pm

re: #815 gop_patriot

re: #777 realwest

I can only assume that now that they've found 8kgs of this stuff, it will be supremely helpful in identifying the origins of this terror attack . Good.

Pussy-men won't respond (nothing derogatory meant to ladies) - a strongly worded letter from the UN - HA! is all we can hope for.

Please G-d - don't let them put me in charge.

841 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:13:17pm

re: #838 MandyManners

Can we hug?

Just make sure to check for your wallet, watch, and/or purse afterwards. ;)

842 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:13:21pm

re: #800 unclassifiable

What has always puzzled me is the U.S.'s "hands off" attitude towards India when they themselves are a democratic republic facing the threat of worldwide Islamofacist jihad.

My heart goes out to all the victims famalies.

India is a more natural ally than China ever will be. We have been slowly embracing India. They speak English (most of them, anyway), they have a huge educated pool of workers to draw from. And, when freed from the shackles of the idiotic Soviet models they tried, their economy is booming.

They have quite a few cultural hurdles to get over before they can really move ahead. Their population is on track to pass China. They have a minority of Muslims that is almost as large as the entire population of the USA. They also have many of the trappings of the caste system still going. It is more subtle than set in the law now, but it's still there. Although they have billionaires and many millionaires, they still have crushing poverty in many areas.

I hope we grow closer and closer to India, they are the future in that part of the world for the USA. China will always consider us a threat and a rival, not a partner. (IMHO)

843 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:13:33pm

Israeli family held hostage in Mumbai

...Indian news network IBN aired photos from Nariman House, where Chabad offices are located, showing the house surrounded by security forces. The network reported of exchanges of fire heard in the area but did not report on the condition of the people inside the building.

Meanwhile, Chabad's website reported that the organization's emissary to India, Rabbi Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, and his wife Rivka, are missing. According to the report, one of Holtzberg's friends received an email from the rabbi at around 11:30 pm (local time). Israeli Consulate was in touch with Holtzberg, but the line was cut in middle of the conversation.

Menachem Cohen, editor of the Chabad On Line (COL) website, told Ynet that "Gabby Holtzberg and his wife Rivka were sent to India several years ago by the Education Center, which sends Chabad emissaries across the world."

844 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:14:01pm

re: #820 pingjockey

Y'all have fun putting out a boiling oil fire! Not pretty.

Rule#1 Don't use the hose to put out that fire!

845 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:14:12pm

re: #810 LindaMarie
Glad to see you posting LindaMarie - soon as I heard about the bomb outside the compound in Kabul you were the first person I thought of. Glad you're ok.

846 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:14:51pm

re: #842 Desert Dog

India is a more natural ally than China ever will be. We have been slowly embracing India. They speak English (most of them, anyway), they have a huge educated pool of workers to draw from. And, when freed from the shackles of the idiotic Soviet models they tried, their economy is booming.

They have quite a few cultural hurdles to get over before they can really move ahead. Their population is on track to pass China. They have a minority of Muslims that is almost as large as the entire population of the USA. They also have many of the trappings of the caste system still going. It is more subtle than set in the law now, but it's still there. Although they have billionaires and many millionaires, they still have crushing poverty in many areas.

I hope we grow closer and closer to India, they are the future in that part of the world for the USA. China will always consider us a threat and a rival, not a partner. (IMHO)

/Too bad we can't replace Mexico with India (Yeah, I know the population difference).

847 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:15:04pm

re: #812 itellu3times

It seems that we should have at least spent a proportional amount of time in security information exchange as we did with Pakistan.

Although I agree that India's ties to Russia (as a counterbalance to an ongoing border dispute with China) makes any information exchange a dicey issue.

848 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:15:07pm

re: #835 FurryOldGuyJeans

So far no, but the situation is not one where those fighting back against the jihadis have the time to stop and hold a press conference.

/if they even get close to penetrating the Kabul embassy perimeter, we probably shouldn't be there any more

849 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:15:13pm

re: #833 gmsc

Darwin, seriously, Darwin...

Although, I don't want to see anyone at the burn unit, so safety link (for the Dummies):

Yall be careful and have a great Turkey Day!

850 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:15:29pm

re: #837 jcm

What you might see, I doubt it would be an EO, is a tax on ammo and firearms. Or like OSHA tried last year reclass ammo as high explosive making the sale and storage of ammo very difficult. I am going to buy some ammo as soon as the panic dies down a bit, $400 a thousand for .308 is a bit step.

I did do a little economic stimulation a buy some optics for my "black rifle." Got a better deal than that though.

OUCH! I sure hope you got a GREAT deal!~

851 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:15:50pm

re: #820 pingjockey

Y'all have fun putting out a boiling oil fire! Not pretty.

I was up at North Bend Fire academy doing a haz mat course, one of the pratice fixtures is for large oil spills. There are control valves so if things get out of hand the fire can be shut off real quick. A friend of mine was on the valves and I was about half way through putting out a large oil fire, and he opens the valves behind me and my team. He's laughing his ass off at me, I've got to get my team to do a withdrawal with fire behind me. Great fun, lots of fire, little risk.

852 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:15:59pm

re: #843 NJDhockeyfan

Israeli family held hostage in Mumbai

One word: Mossad.

853 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:16:05pm

Something going on outside the Nariman House, Ambulance... small child and possibly child's mother rushed out of the house by police

854 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:16:19pm

re: #842 Desert Dog

Well said. I do agree. I have been to both China and India repeatedly in my lifetime, even to the city attacked today.

855 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:16:31pm

re: #844 Desert Dog

Rule#1 Don't use the hose to put out that fire!

PKP- Purple K powder

856 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:16:55pm

re: #823 Iron Fist

Stand ever vigilant, I guess. To some, that might seem extreme.

Tyrannical governments fear an armed populace.

Exercise your rights.

I had a story to tell, here, about an acquaintance who I discovered has a conceal and carry permit. I was so proud of her, but in our situation, could only give her a "secret" fist-bump under the table.

Can't wait to go shooting with her and her hubby. Didn't know they were even interested.

857 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:17:04pm

re: #839 rawmuse

Watched a good movie tonight "TranSiberian"

...actually had Woody in a believable role

858 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:17:18pm

re: #853 gop_patriot

They look like foreign nationals the reporter says

859 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:17:26pm

re: #841 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just make sure to check for your wallet, watch, and/or purse afterwards. ;)

Mean of you?

860 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:17:27pm

re: #795 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So if they don't agree with you they should leave?


I couldn't care less where they go but I know where they're headed. They'll soon be posting with Chen Zen and Gordon about what a dick I am. Good luck with that.

861 pottymouth1  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:18:07pm

g'nite all, happy thanksgiving. thanks to all the soldiers in harms way...much thanks

862 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:18:21pm

re: #857 slokat

...actually had Woody in a believable role

He was pretty good in "No Country For Old Men" also.

863 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:18:47pm

re: #822 Bobibutu
I am civilian not military - the military are never allowed to go to the Serena which was the site of the attack about 6 months ago.
This whole thing of jihad just annoys me to no end. I always want to ask my Afghan staff just what they think of it, but it is best to be careful. I write that not out of fear but because, if not phrased carefully, it can offend people that you like. Hearts and minds sort of thing.
Had one driver tell me the "burka is a big problem here" after we almost hit a woman in one. No side vision, she did not see us.
I find that positive.

864 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:18:48pm

re: #861 pottymouth1

g'nite all, happy thanksgiving. thanks to all the soldiers in harms way...much thanks

Welcome Pottymouth and Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours too

865 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:18:58pm

re: #815 gop_patriot
Yeppers - whether or not we'll read about it is something entirely different.
And I just thought of something really horrible (possibly) - there have been warnings about the LIRR and Subways in NYC today and tomorrow but what about the big Macy's Day Parade?!

866 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:18:58pm

re: #850 Wishing

OUCH! I sure hope you got a GREAT deal!~

Good optics are never cheap, but I went with reasonable and in my budget and not all the bells and whistles.

867 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:19:33pm

re: #860 Killgore Trout

what a dick I am

/take a screenshot

868 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:19:36pm

re: #862 rawmuse

He was pretty good in "No Country For Old Men" also.

Haven't had the occasion to watch that one, yet.

869 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:20:06pm

re: #862 rawmuse

He was pretty good in "No Country For Old Men" also.

/while he lasted

870 StudSupreme  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:20:34pm

Could I change the subject a bit? Hope nobody objects.

Here goes:

Everyone has heard about the Mumbai terrorist attacks today, right?

Question to all fellow Lizards:
Why are jihadists attacking India?

India doesn't have troops in Iraq.
India doesn't have troops in Afghanistan.
India doesn't have troops anywhere in the Mideast.
India doesn't support Israel.

Some people say "Duuuh, there's westerners there in the hotels."
Well - there's westerners in hotels in Dubai.
And Bahrain.
And Qatar.
And Morocco.
And Tunisia.

Do you think the MSM or the Dhimmicrats or the Obamoids or anyone else on the left will figure it out?

:-)

871 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:20:36pm

re: #866 jcm

Good optics are never cheap, but I went with reasonable and in my budget and not all the bells and whistles.

Since I pretty much focus on handguns, optics arent that big of a deal. I prefer my gun unencumbered. =)
Call me a purist. lol

872 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:20:39pm

Did a search of historic dates to see if this was timed for something, didn't find anything but this unrelated but interesting tidbit:

1476 - Vlad III Dracula defeats Basarab Laiota with the help of Stephen the Great and Stephen V Bathory and becomes the ruler of Wallachia for the third time.

873 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:20:46pm
874 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:20:51pm

re: #869 Killian Bundy

/while he lasted

...was he wearing a red shirt?

875 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:21:17pm

re: #870 StudSupreme

Could I change the subject a bit? Hope nobody objects.

Here goes:

Everyone has heard about the Mumbai terrorist attacks today, right?

Question to all fellow Lizards:
Why are jihadists attacking India?

India doesn't have troops in Iraq.
India doesn't have troops in Afghanistan.
India doesn't have troops anywhere in the Mideast.
India doesn't support Israel.

Some people say "Duuuh, there's westerners there in the hotels."
Well - there's westerners in hotels in Dubai.
And Bahrain.
And Qatar.
And Morocco.
And Tunisia.

Do you think the MSM or the Dhimmicrats or the Obamoids or anyone else on the left will figure it out?

:-)

There are JOOOS there, silly.

876 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:21:23pm

re: #825 Killian Bundy


Unknown at this point.
Bet you a Turkey dinner there were innocent civilians killed or injured.

They call them involuntary martyrs.
There is even a Ministry for the Injured and Martyred.

Go figure

877 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:21:25pm

re: #868 slokat

Haven't had the occasion to watch that one, yet.

/I like it, although many think the violence is over the top

878 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:21:29pm

re: #870 StudSupreme

CheneyMcBushHitler put them up to it. Haven't you heard?
Just ask the koslings.

879 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:21:36pm

re: #867 Killian Bundy

/take a screenshot

I would say dicks serve a worthwhile purpose.

880 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:21:36pm

re: #811 gmsc

The mirror cracks..

881 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:21:50pm

re: #870 StudSupreme

Could I change the subject a bit? Hope nobody objects.

Here goes:

Everyone has heard about the Mumbai terrorist attacks today, right?

Question to all fellow Lizards:
Why are jihadists attacking India?

India doesn't have troops in Iraq.
India doesn't have troops in Afghanistan.
India doesn't have troops anywhere in the Mideast.
India doesn't support Israel.

Some people say "Duuuh, there's westerners there in the hotels."
Well - there's westerners in hotels in Dubai.
And Bahrain.
And Qatar.
And Morocco.
And Tunisia.

Do you think the MSM or the Dhimmicrats or the Obamoids or anyone else on the left will figure it out?

:-)


India has troops in Kashmir is what they will tell you. Intifada going on right now, two shot dead throwing rocks at the police just the other day.

882 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:22:00pm

re: #814 Wishing

Well dang, Noam, you just wrecked my excuse for stocking up on more stuff!

Pretend it's still an excuse. I recently opened my li'l brother's gun safe - he could defend his entire neighborhood by himself if he needed to.

And he has about five more rack spaces to fill.

Two of those spaces are occupied by my old 870 Wingmaster and my old Ruger 10/22. The niece and nephew seem to appreciate them, though.

Makes Uncle Noam a happy man.

883 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:22:37pm

re: #863 LindaMarie

I am civilian not military - the military are never allowed to go to the Serena which was the site of the attack about 6 months ago.
This whole thing of jihad just annoys me to no end. I always want to ask my Afghan staff just what they think of it, but it is best to be careful. I write that not out of fear but because, if not phrased carefully, it can offend people that you like. Hearts and minds sort of thing.
Had one driver tell me the "burka is a big problem here" after we almost hit a woman in one. No side vision, she did not see us.
I find that positive.

email me please.

884 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:23:17pm

re: #824 LC LaWedgie
That is SO OUT OF LINE with everything I've been reading - do any of those sources give a breakdown of this $4+ TRILLION dollar "bailout"?

885 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:23:33pm

re: #877 Killian Bundy

And the ending sucks...

886 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:23:41pm

re: #882 Noam Sayin'

Pretend it's still an excuse. I recently opened my li'l brother's gun safe - he could defend his entire neighborhood by himself if he needed to.

And he has about five more rack spaces to fill.

Two of those spaces are occupied by my old 870 Wingmaster and my old Ruger 10/22. The niece and nephew seem to appreciate them, though.

Makes Uncle Noam a happy man.

Ahh yes...Ruger 10/22 was my first gun, in years gone by! Love it still!

887 slokat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:23:49pm

re: #877 Killian Bundy

/I like it, although many think the violence is over the top

Whenever I see the DVD cover it is almost interesting enough to rent... but not quite.
Maybe I will think differently next time?

888 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:23:51pm

re: #871 Wishing

Since I pretty much focus on handguns, optics arent that big of a deal. I prefer my gun unencumbered. =)
Call me a purist. lol

I agree on handguns, no lasers, no lights, I keep a tactical flashlight in my bedside gun safe. But my long gun I can reach out 4-500 yards a little help is nice.

889 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:24:01pm

re: #878 rawmuse

CheneyMcBushHitler put them up to it. Haven't you heard?
Just ask the koslings.

Has anyone been over to KOS, DU, or HuffPo? Maybe the morons are claiming Bush planned and will use this to declare Marshall law and nullify the election.

890 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:24:23pm

re: #870 StudSupreme

Could I change the subject a bit? Hope nobody objects.

Here goes:

Everyone has heard about the Mumbai terrorist attacks today, right?

Question to all fellow Lizards:
Why are jihadists attacking India?

India doesn't have troops in Iraq.
India doesn't have troops in Afghanistan.
India doesn't have troops anywhere in the Mideast.
India doesn't support Israel.

Some people say "Duuuh, there's westerners there in the hotels."
Well - there's westerners in hotels in Dubai.
And Bahrain.
And Qatar.
And Morocco.
And Tunisia.

Do you think the MSM or the Dhimmicrats or the Obamoids or anyone else on the left will figure it out?

:-)

Because it what they do.

891 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:24:27pm

re: #870 StudSupreme

Sorry.

That is not consistent with the pre-planned peace and harmony narrative that has already been scheduled to be inacted in January 2009.

/all hail al-Ming

892 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:24:38pm

re: #876 LindaMarie

Unknown at this point.
Bet you a Turkey dinner there were innocent civilians killed or injured.

They call them involuntary martyrs.
There is even a Ministry for the Injured and Martyred.

Go figure

/The State Department doesn't have procedure to account for personnel?

893 So?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:24:44pm

I think the whole bombs in NYC is a croc of shit. Why worry about how much money the government, the banks, wall street and insurance companies have just stolen from you when you have to focus your worried mind on terrorists. There is only room for one calamity at a time: RED ALERT RED ALERT:::forget about the trillions and how your life savings have disappeared, terrorists are lurking, get out your BB guns...be suspicious...what a croc. And naturally, it's working once again. yellow, orange, amber, purple...sheeple.

894 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:24:54pm

re: #879 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

895 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:24:59pm

re: #867 Killian Bundy

No need, I'm a dick and you and Chen Zen can talk about it all day long.

896 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:25:05pm

re: #882 Noam Sayin'

The SWAT team made an appearance in my 'hood this morning. I counted about 12 of them, up at 0'dark thirty. I heard they picked up a parole violator. Anyway, some Lizard, I forget who, suggested I should move away.

Now, where the hell am I gonna move where they don't have a SWAT team?

897 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:25:45pm

re: #840 Bobibutu
Please God, put Bobibutu in charge!

898 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:25:54pm

All. You run into anything strange when working the OSI on the Mumbai incident?

On a number of times trying to get to
websites throughout the afternoon and evening I would watch the navigation
it would click and then I was getting forwarded to addresses that had white
pages with a .CN IP address.

Anyone experience this? Thots?

899 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:26:29pm
900 spirochete  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:26:30pm

re: #892 Killian Bundy

/The State Department doesn't have procedure to account for personnel?

I spent an evening in the American Embassy in Beijing during the Tian An Men square uprising. No procedure there for anything. I hope it's different now.

901 Desert Dog  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:26:52pm

re: #885 eddiespaghetti

And the ending sucks...

The bad guy was great thought! Javier Bardem was a very "good" bad guy

902 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:04pm

re: #889 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Bush hasn't been getting up until 10AM and is bathing and shaving every third day.

/I think he is in severe f' it mode

903 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:05pm

re: #880 Mel Lono

The mirror cracks..

We'll see. First, we don't actually know what the headline will be tomorrow (who knows? Maybe the paper puts the India attacks below the fold. Doubtful, but possible.)

Second, if he is faced with the Indian attacks as the headline, it then becomes a matter of his showmanship as to how he will handle it, and how well it will come off.

It's not the first time a magician has had to deal with this. I know one guy in Florida who was not looking forward to closing his show with a headline prediction on Sept. 12, 2001. (He did manage to pull it off - he "predicted" the top headline of the sports section that day.)

904 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:12pm

IBN reporting 100 dead.

905 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:25pm

re: #872 Thanos

Did a search of historic dates to see if this was timed for something, didn't find anything but this unrelated but interesting tidbit:

1476 - Vlad III Dracula defeats Basarab Laiota with the help of Stephen the Great and Stephen V Bathory and becomes the ruler of Wallachia for the third time.

In 1949, India adopted a constitution as a republic within the British Commonwealth.

906 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:25pm

re: #842 Desert Dog
India and Israel have in fact been drawing closer to each other for about 10 years now and iirc, so has the US.

907 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:29pm

re: #873 Iron Fist

I have a total lefty, "citizen of the world" type friend - cute little blond - who has expressed interest in shooting handguns. This is encouraging. It means little to her right now, but I'm gradually taking her into the fold.

Where we lose one, we'll gain one, I guess. Her birthday's coming up. She's a gutsy babe who might find that exciting as a one-off experience. I think you know we'll have her hooked at that point.

908 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:31pm

re: #896 rawmuse

The SWAT team made an appearance in my 'hood this morning. I counted about 12 of them, up at 0'dark thirty. I heard they picked up a parole violator. Anyway, some Lizard, I forget who, suggested I should move away.

Now, where the hell am I gonna move where they don't have a SWAT team?

You need a better class of neighbor...

909 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:27:46pm

re: #893 So?

I think the whole bombs in NYC is a croc of shit. Why worry about how much money the government, the banks, wall street and insurance companies have just stolen from you when you have to focus your worried mind on terrorists. There is only room for one calamity at a time: RED ALERT RED ALERT:::forget about the trillions and how your life savings have disappeared, terrorists are lurking, get out your BB guns...be suspicious...what a croc. And naturally, it's working once again. yellow, orange, amber, purple...sheeple.

Yep.

910 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:28:50pm

re: #894 MandyManners

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Wow, all that hair! They put Guns 'N Roses to shame! They (BOA) around here quite a lot.

911 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:28:53pm

re: #898 Bobibutu

All. You run into anything strange when working the OSI on the Mumbai incident?

On a number of times trying to get to
websites throughout the afternoon and evening I would watch the navigation
it would click and then I was getting forwarded to addresses that had white
pages with a .CN IP address.

Anyone experience this? Thots?

You might be suffering DNS hijacking, recommend you check what your Domain Name Service setting is, I recommend OpenDNS

912 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:28:56pm

re: #870 StudSupreme

Could I change the subject a bit? Hope nobody objects.

Here goes:

Everyone has heard about the Mumbai terrorist attacks today, right?

Question to all fellow Lizards:
Why are jihadists attacking India?

India doesn't have troops in Iraq.
India doesn't have troops in Afghanistan.
India doesn't have troops anywhere in the Mideast.
India doesn't support Israel.

Some people say "Duuuh, there's westerners there in the hotels."
Well - there's westerners in hotels in Dubai.
And Bahrain.
And Qatar.
And Morocco.
And Tunisia.

Do you think the MSM or the Dhimmicrats or the Obamoids or anyone else on the left will figure it out?

:-)

It is Islamic Domination - convert or die.
Some believe the world is destined to be and must be Muslim.

In truth it all relates to money and power. As it often does. The taliban had it pretty good when they were in power. Plenty to eat and a fawning (terrified) population.
They want that back. India is becoming more modern (westernized) and so less likely to revert to the 7th century.
Remember the British partitioned India (at that time one country) into India and Pakistan and there was a blood bath of religous domination and war.

913 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:29:27pm

re: #905 FurryOldGuyJeans

In 1949, India adopted a constitution as a republic within the British Commonwealth.

Hrmm

914 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:30:02pm

re: #908 jcm

You need a better class of neighbor...

You should have seen it when I bought the place. Heck, we are gentrified now. Now we've got Jehavah's coming around to gang-save us. Time was they wouldn't stand a chance.

915 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:30:10pm

re: #884 realwest

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

916 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:30:25pm

re: #885 eddiespaghetti

And the ending sucks...

/c'mon, the bad guy kills just about everyone and staggers into the closing credit sunset with only a compound arm fracture, what's not to like?

917 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:30:31pm

re: #893 So?

I think the whole bombs in NYC is a croc of shit. Why worry about how much money the government, the banks, wall street and insurance companies have just stolen from you when you have to focus your worried mind on terrorists. There is only room for one calamity at a time: RED ALERT RED ALERT:::forget about the trillions and how your life savings have disappeared, terrorists are lurking, get out your BB guns...be suspicious...what a croc. And naturally, it's working once again. yellow, orange, amber, purple...sheeple.

are you a conspiracy nut?
I don't think anyone will forget about the fact that his/her 401 K has disappeared or been cut in half, by hearing of a terror threat. And living here, I'm rather thankful for the NYPD sweeping into the subways making sure no shit is going down.

918 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:30:41pm

re: #899 Iron Fist

Wouldn't they just have a shit-hemorrhage if he actually did that?

It would be a thing of beauty.

I can just imagine all the heads exploding. Unfortunately, that's not where their brains are located.

919 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:30:48pm
920 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:30:57pm

re: #916 Killian Bundy

Spoiler!

921 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:31:20pm

re: #884 realwest

That is SO OUT OF LINE with everything I've been reading - do any of those sources give a breakdown of this $4+ TRILLION dollar "bailout" corporate welfare?

Fixed that for you.

922 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:31:27pm

re: #912 LindaMarie

It is Islamic Domination - convert or die.
Some believe the world is destined to be and must be Muslim.

In truth it all relates to money and power. As it often does. The taliban had it pretty good when they were in power. Plenty to eat and a fawning (terrified) population.
They want that back. India is becoming more modern (westernized) and so less likely to revert to the 7th century.
Remember the British partitioned India (at that time one country) into India and Pakistan and there was a blood bath of religous domination and war.

Truth is, how many men in the world would LOVE the thought of dominating your women, having as many wives as possible, taxing your enemies til you have all they earned, being given the thumbs up on lying and cheating. The appeal of Islam is powerful.

923 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:31:50pm

re: #833 gmsc

excellent link, I forwarded it to my kid. One never knows what happens to the brain of a teenager, but visual aids sometimes help.

924 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:32:16pm

re: #901 Desert Dog

I don't know about that, he was pretty evil, no mercy at all. I loved the character though. I just didn't like that there was no closure. Win or lose, die or live, call me old fashion.

925 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:32:16pm

re: #910 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wow, all that hair! They put Guns 'N Roses to shame! They (BOA) around here quite a lot.

PIMF- They play around here all the time.

926 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:32:24pm

re: #919 Iron Fist

I remember a buddy of mine's wife when we introduced her to the joys of 9mm. She had been scared of guns. That didn't last. She decided that she wanted one for her next birthday.

(saving the country, one baby step at a time :-)

We've got a lunch club at work, run up to range 10 minutes from work get 30 minutes in and back. We've added 3 newbies in the last year.

927 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:32:54pm

re: #836 realwest

cowards! You are correct. All the more reason for an armed citizenry.

928 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:33:10pm

re: #895 Killgore Trout

No need, I'm a dick and you and Chen Zen can talk about it all day long.

/seriously, I don't spend one second more than I do here commenting on your sorry . . .

929 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:33:19pm

re: #897 realwest

Please God, put Bobibutu in charge!

Oh - RW - there would much conversion from sand to glass. Consider carefully.

As my G'ma taught me - no compromise!

And for Honor there is none.

And for this pestilence - there is none - if we are to live in peace.

I fear sand to glass would be only temporary - abit - generations. - many.

930 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:33:33pm

re: #903 gmsc

Curious about the trick then... but the press should great.

931 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:33:54pm

re: #923 ggt

Did you move, ggt?

932 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:34:06pm

re: #896 rawmuse

The SWAT team made an appearance in my 'hood this morning. I counted about 12 of them, up at 0'dark thirty. I heard they picked up a parole violator. Anyway, some Lizard, I forget who, suggested I should move away.

Now, where the hell am I gonna move where they don't have a SWAT team?

Why would you want to move someplace where a swat team couldn't show up at 1:00 am? I say, call the police department, and tell them you'll be willing to store 10 cases of fully-loaded MP5 magazines in a lock-box bolted to your foundation.

If anything, someone should come around to carry off the bodies.

/

933 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:34:09pm

re: #892 Killian Bundy


I am not State Department either.
Work as a civlilain, with my husband, on reconstruction.
And that is all I am allowed to say : )
And not CIA so don't go there.

934 So?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:35:30pm

re: #917 2by2

Yeah, the info came from some one individual in Pakistan. What are the FBI, CIA & Homeland security doing here in the USA? Basting their turkeys for tomorrow. There's one way to stop all this nonsense and I posted it in the NYC bomb thread. Do you know where those bailout trillions are going? Why not? Oh, they don't want to tell you, it's none of your business. I rest my case.

935 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:35:49pm

re: #922 Wishing


Amen!
Opps - I mean Inshallah.

936 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:36:18pm

re: #889 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Has anyone been over to KOS, DU, or HuffPo? Maybe the morons are claiming Bush planned and will use this to declare Marshall law and nullify the election.

Martial law

937 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:36:38pm

re: #933 LindaMarie

I am not State Department either.
Work as a civlilain, with my husband, on reconstruction.
And that is all I am allowed to say : )
And not CIA so don't go there.

/well, your contractor keeps track of and protects you, hopefully?

938 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:36:42pm

re: #933 LindaMarie

I am not State Department either.
Work as a civlilain, with my husband, on reconstruction.
And that is all I am allowed to say : )
And not CIA so don't go there.

Reconstruction? They've had actual construction in Kabul in the last, oh, 700 years?

939 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:36:42pm

re: #923 ggt

excellent link, I forwarded it to my kid. One never knows what happens to the brain of a teenager, but visual aids sometimes help.

On a child's 13th birthday, God removes his brain.
On a child's 20th birthday, God restores his brain.

940 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:36:59pm

re: #933 LindaMarie

USAID :P

941 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:37:12pm

re: #936 funky chicken

Martial law

That's when Jackie Chan declares it.

942 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:37:19pm

re: #893 So?
Well as someone who still proudly refers to NYC and Manhattan in particular his "hometown" and who has a slew of friends there, I hope you're right.
But I fear you're wrong. And I wasn't joking about the Macy's Day Parade tomorrow either in my#865.

943 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:37:20pm

re: #868 slokat

My hubby and kid loved that movie. I didn't get it. Guess, it's just not a chick flick.

944 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:37:22pm

re: #936 funky chicken

Martial law

Knowing the KosKids and their ilk it would be Marshall Law. ;)

945 So?  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:37:34pm

re: #939 Who Watches the Watchmen?

On a child's 13th birthday, God removes his brain.
On a child's 20th birthday, God restores his brain.

On his 21st birthday, somebody introduces him to crack.

946 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:37:52pm

Pics of the rubber rafts the terrorists supposedly came in on, scroll to bottom here
[Link: www.ultrabrown.com...]

947 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:37:55pm

re: #937 Killian Bundy

You bet - SMS messages.

948 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:38:04pm

* * * *
* Happy Thanksgiving! *
* * * * *

949 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:38:09pm

re: #889 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Has anyone been over to KOS, DU, or HuffPo? Maybe the morons are claiming Bush planned and will use this to declare Marshall law and nullify the election.

Bush is counting the seconds till he's the fuck our of DC and can go back to his ranch and not have the weight of the world (literally) on his shoulders.

950 wolfie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:38:12pm

re: #922 Wishing

That's sounds suspiciously similar to the Democrat Party platform.
hmmm...

951 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:38:13pm

re: #919 Iron Fist

There's nothing like the sound of that first round going off.

Except for the next 99 rounds going off.

Just hit the range last weekend for the first time since April (haven't done shit since I bought the scooter). I'll probably be back this weekend or next. Would love to find a good deal on 9mm JHP so I can spend more time on the range.

952 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:38:51pm

This guy is a jackass...

Washington, Nov 27 (IANS) Facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, President-elect Barack Obama says he is kept awake at night worrying about what will happen to the country over the next 60 days while a ‘lame duck’ is in charge.

953 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:39:18pm

re: #934 So?

Where is it going? curious.
Just for the record, I'm very much in favor to let those who deserve no better go bust, I don't think that these guys should be allowed to privatize their profits but nationalize their losses.

954 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:39:30pm
955 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:39:43pm

re: #838 MandyManners

Can we hug?

Each and every time you feel the need to, darlin.

*smooch*

{Mandy}

956 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:40:18pm
957 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:40:23pm

Lindamarie:
A couple sites to bookmark, lots of good references in back pages if you are interested in the culture:

[Link: abumuqawama.blogspot.com...]

[Link: easterncampaign.wordpress.com...]

958 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:40:31pm

re: #936 funky chicken

Martial law

Your right. My bad. Typo. It's getting late, I'm getting well, I'm drinking. At this point the fingers work faster than the brain. I have spell check as I type, but marshall is also a word.

959 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:41:15pm

re: #1 BlueCanuck

Please let there be some good news soon. Please, please, please.

Good news.
I've finished shopping for TG dinner.
We're having T-Bone and Ahi steaks, mashed potatoes green beans, salad, and stuffing, sans turkey.

A big Thanks to the Akua!
Aloha ke Akua.

960 revobob  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:42:27pm

re: #556 Iron Fist Probably better off with a bread-and-butter Remington 1100- add a red dot sight and the long magazine extension and you have 8-10 rounds (depending on length) of 12 ga to load as you wish. I've heard mixed reports on the Saiga, and you rarely ever see them in combat-type matches. If they were reliable and offered an advantage, people would be competing with the. Also, parts and accessories are everywhere for the Remington.

961 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:42:32pm

re: #954 Iron Fist

Guns are too damn much fun, if you can just get them outside of their shell. Our local indoor range has an MP-5 that you can rent. I'm going to introduce my current girlfriend to it. If there's a sweeter shooting weapon in the world than an MP-5, I've never seen it.

Unless the Supreme Court kills off the NFA, I'm unlikely to ever own one. They're basically worth whatever it takes to persuade someone who owns one to sell it.

Wah.

MP-5 are way too much fun, and the ammo goes sooo fast. I got a chance on to fire a SWAT teams MP-5, suppressed and full auto. More addictive than Lays chips.

962 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:42:34pm

Three people have managed to escape the Nariman House, per IBN live feed- mother and child believed to be Israeli nationals, another is believed to be a cook.

They told Police that 5 or 6 terrorists in the Nariman House.

963 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:43:05pm
964 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:43:25pm

re: #939 Who Watches the Watchmen?

On a child's 13th birthday, God removes his brain.
On a child's 20th birthday, God restores his brain.


LOL ===
And mine just turned 21 so he is back with the conscious world and I love him dearly.
We made it with no major injuries to 21.
Got him fuzzy slippers for his birthday.
www.bonsaisandals.com

965 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:43:43pm

re: #952 NJDhockeyfan

Wow, that guy has totally no class at all. Wonder how history is going to view him.

/might give Carter a run for the title

966 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:43:51pm

re: #928 Killian Bundy

seriously, I don't spend one second more than I do here commenting on your sorry . . .


Yet you spend so much time commenting about me. You'll be very happy at the stalker blogs.

967 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:43:55pm

odd link trail on my last.

968 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:43:56pm

re: #962 gop_patriot

That dude in the blue t shirt with the rifle and knapsack looks like he is enjoying himself.

969 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:44:18pm

re: #915 LC LaWedgie
Well, overlooking the source of the breakdown that's just silly. I mean they are including things like FDIC insurance which has been around for I don't know how long, overnight lending to commercial banks and the like.
I thought you meant NEW $4.5 TRILLION.

970 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:44:33pm

re: #950 wolfie

That's sounds suspiciously similar to the Democrat Party platform.
hmmm...

ROFL

971 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:44:42pm

re: #949 jcm

Bush is counting the seconds till he's the fuck our of DC and can go back to his ranch and not have the weight of the world (literally) on his shoulders.

And it will take a few years, but I'll bet a lot of people in the world will wish for the days of GWB in the White House when they finally see what a disaster BHO will be. All this shit happening right now is not a coincidence.

972 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:45:10pm

re: #963 Iron Fist

If I were him, I'd resign and let Darth Cheney guide the ship into port. If for no other reason than that it would drive the moonbats apeshit.

As tempting as that is, right now there are a few crises that don't need Continuity of Government problems thrown into the mix.

973 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:45:12pm

re: #963 Iron Fist

Bush should do his remaining news conferences in a bathrobe and slippers.

And start it with "What the F**K do you A**holes want?"

974 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:46:02pm

re: #963 Iron Fist

If I were him, I'd resign and let Darth Cheney guide the ship into port. If for no other reason than that it would drive the moonbats apeshit.

That would be excellent!

I never understood the antipathy for Cheney.

975 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:46:04pm

re: #923 ggt

excellent link, I forwarded it to my kid. One never knows what happens to the brain of a teenager, but visual aids sometimes help.

Always glad to be of help!

976 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:46:11pm

re: #922 Wishing

certainly attracted Michael Jackson.

/wonder why?

977 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:46:14pm
978 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:46:21pm

re: #961 jcm

MP-5, suppressed and full auto.

/thousands killed in Mumbai

979 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:47:21pm

re: #931 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

from where to where? IRL --no, still in Near Iowa.

980 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:47:25pm

re: #952 NJDhockeyfan

This guy is a jackass...

Where the hell is Michelle my Belle?

981 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:47:42pm

re: #971 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

And it will take a few years, but I'll bet a lot of people in the world will wish for the days of GWB in the White House when they finally see what a disaster BHO will be. All this shit happening right now is not a coincidence.

History will be kind to GWB, and when the secret files are open on the GWT in 25 years, even more admiring.

982 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:47:43pm

re: #952 NJDhockeyfan

This guy is a jackass...

Odd...he's worried about the next 60 day. I'm worried about the NEXT FOUR YEARS!

983 Karridine  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:47:46pm

re: #939 Who Watches the Watchmen?

ROFL...

At 17 I enlisted Regular Army, to avoid VietNam...

At 20 I was shipped BACK Stateside to teach Korean... brain restored! :D

984 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:48:13pm

re: #969 realwest

OK, so subtract 1.4 trillion - what the heck.

985 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:48:13pm

re: #966 Killgore Trout

Yet you spend so much time commenting about me. You'll be very happy at the stalker blogs.

I don't want to go to any stalker blogs. Do I have to?

/this is the only place I comment

986 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:48:15pm

re: #929 Bobibutu
Ah, ok, no conversions of sand to glass for me.
Genocide isn't the answer - governmental responsibility for defense is.
IF ONLY there were one or three or six nations we could pin all this terrorism on - clearly pin it on - that'd be different.

987 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:48:31pm

re: #957 Thanos


Thank you for the links, but I am immersed in the culture. One way to escape it is to come here. Grounds me back in reality.
The only news here is the liberal press and I am glad to see they do not truly represent the thoughts of the US.
Were it not for LGF I would be really worried.

988 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:48:33pm
989 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:48:45pm

re: #978 Killian Bundy

/thousands killed in Mumbai

World Peace.
An MP-5 in every home!

990 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:49:26pm

Chaiya chaiya

"He who walks in the shadow of love
Will have paradise beneath his feet"


Shahrukh Khan (the guy in the clip) is Muslim, BTW.
/Peace

991 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:49:30pm

re: #939 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Thank G-d! he is going to a all-boys Benedictine High School. Those Monks and teachers know how to handle teenage boys. Oh, and he's JROTC.

I love it!

992 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:49:32pm

re: #974 jcm

That would be excellent!

I never understood the antipathy for Cheney.

Halliburton and back when he was running the losers said Bush would be Cheney's lapdog, doing whatever Cheney told him to.

993 Sevoguy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:49:39pm

What will the Indian military do now. India needs to go to war with it's islamic enemies. Take Kashmir now. No matter what the cost, this must be done immediately.

994 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:49:49pm

So we get to see the horror at work on our planet Earth.

I popped up tonight to say that I the Night watch, am thankful for the many blessings that I and my family have received this year. I am grateful for my son serving with the Marines protecting this Great Country that is the United States of America. I am thankful that President Elect Obama in his naming of staff, appears to be more a man moving towards a healing of this Country's rifts, than a man seeking to widen the gulf. I am thankful for the ability to post on Mr. Johnson's site, even throwing flames and tweaking cheeks, so to speak...:). Most of all, I am very proud to be called an AMERICAN!

Happy Thanks Giving Day to All my fellow Countrymen

995 Russkilitlover  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:50:09pm

re: #893 So?

The one time they need to get through, I hope it's not your sorry ass that will be affected because I want the opportunity to say...SDASTFU.

996 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:50:26pm
997 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:50:34pm

re: #989 jcm

Can I opt out for an AR10?

998 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:50:48pm

I MUST REMEMBER
by Shel Silverstein

I must remember . . .
Turkey on Thanksgiving,
Pudding on Christmas,
Eggs on Easter,
Chicken on Sunday,
Fish on Friday,
Leftovers, Monday.
But ah, me - I'm such a dunce.
I went and ate them all at once.

999 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:51:27pm

re: #979 ggt

from where to where? IRL --no, still in Near Iowa.

As someone who grew up in Chicago, the far western suburbs of Chicago, even "the very far western suburbs", are not near Iowa.

1000 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:51:28pm

re: #997 unclassifiable

Can I opt out for an AR10?

Given the price of an MP-5, I think so.

1001 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:51:56pm

re: #968 rawmuse

That dude in the blue t shirt with the rifle and knapsack looks like he is enjoying himself.

The still photo of the young terrorist? He does, doesn't he. Makes me sick. He's been trained and his mind twisted since he was a young child probably. It's just disgusting.

1002 spirochete  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:52:04pm

re: #974 jcm

That would be excellent!

I never understood the antipathy for Cheney.

CEO of Halliburton AND a republican!

1003 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:52:35pm

Iron Fist (#963),

If I were him, I'd resign and let Darth Cheney guide the ship into port. If for no other reason than that it would drive the moonbats apeshit.

Wouldn't that be sweet? President Cheney.

Their heads would explode.

1004 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:52:48pm

re: #1001 gop_patriot

It is chilling. I see no fear whatsoever.

1005 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:54:06pm

re: #952 NJDhockeyfan
Well I don't know that I'd call Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi "lame ducks" but I get his drift!
Oh, wait, you think he meant Bush? You think he's still believing in (if he ever did) his campaign bullshit?!?

1006 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:54:26pm

re: #1004 rawmuse

It is chilling. I see no fear whatsoever.

Why fear 72 virgins and Paradise?

1007 Wishing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:54:31pm

I am thankful for:
-my husband
-my health
-my home
-my kids
-my country
-my town
-my friends
-my freedom
-my hot shower
-my flush toilet

I live a full life in the greatest country in the world. For all this, I give thanks to God and to all those who have made it possible.
God Bless America!
Happy Thanksgiving to all lizards!

1008 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:54:41pm

re: #1003 Geepers

Iron Fist (#963),

Wouldn't that be sweet? President Cheney.

Their heads would explode.

Nah, the best idea would be:

1) Bush resigns.
2) Cheney is sworn in as president.
3) Cheney selects Condoleeza Rice as his VP.
4) Cheney resigns.
5) Rice is sworn in as our first black president! (Our first female president, too, and a Republican to boot!)

That would make their heads aspolde!


/Damn the 25th amendment!

1009 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:54:46pm

re: #990 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, here's some interesting Bollywood.

1010 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:54:46pm

Hey realwest.

1011 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:54:58pm
1012 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:55:14pm

re: #1007 Wishing

I am thankful for:
-my husband
-my health
-my home
-my kids
-my country
-my town
-my friends
-my freedom
-my hot shower
-my flush toilet

I live a full life in the greatest country in the world. For all this, I give thanks to God and to all those who have made it possible.
God Bless America!
Happy Thanksgiving to all lizards!

AMEN
(-my wife...)

1013 revobob  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:55:39pm

re: #729 spirochete

I have a question for gun savvy lizards. I always hear gunfire reported as "sounding like firecrackers". When I fired my Colt American 2000 9 mm handgun into a tree in the back yard, it sounded like a cannon went off and the police were patrolling soon thereafter.

What makes the difference?


Distance, and background noise

1014 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:56:08pm

gmsc (#1008),

First steps first.

1015 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:56:24pm

re: #954 Iron Fist

Guns are too damn much fun, if you can just get them outside of their shell. Our local indoor range has an MP-5 that you can rent. I'm going to introduce my current girlfriend to it. If there's a sweeter shooting weapon in the world than an MP-5, I've never seen it.

Unless the Supreme Court kills off the NFA, I'm unlikely to ever own one. They're basically worth whatever it takes to persuade someone who owns one to sell it.

Wah.

The other night when I stopped in to one of my local gun shops, I went down to the range to find out what that *Br-r-r-r-r-r-p* was all about.

Found a bunch of suburbanites gathered around a shooting point, camcorder held high above, wailing away at the tattered remains of an insurgent paper target. The range officer told me they wanted to fire a submachine gun, but do it as cheaply as possible. He told them, "once you pull the trigger on that MP5, you'll be coming back for more ammo."

They were filing in and out, off the range, running their credit cards for more and more rounds.

1016 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:56:28pm

re: #993 Sevoguy
Uh, Pakistan might have some objections to India taking Kashimir now - you remember Pakistan - the one Muslim nation that we KNOW has nuclear weapons and missles that can reach India!

1017 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:56:39pm

re: #1009 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, here's some interesting Bollywood.

My favorite Indian music video: May he poop on my knee?

1018 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:57:01pm

re: #993 Sevoguy

What will the Indian military do now. India needs to go to war with it's Islamic enemies. Take Kashmir now. No matter what the cost, this must be done immediately.

No not at all. Kashmir in not an Islamic enemy, or at least not all of it.
That would be a disaster. There are nuclear weapons here after all, on all sides. Part of Kashmir is under China's control. It is split into three parts. I don't mean to sound like China would be the first to use a nuclear weapon, they would not I think, but they would certainly be the last and it would be devastating.

1019 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:57:40pm

And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and the Skipster too.

1020 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:58:04pm

re: #999 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Tell that to people from the City --LOL

I was told once that I lived "where G-d lost his shoes".

A Lizard once even told me that there is no shame is saying I lived in Iowa.

Mostly I just get tired of typing the entire "Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland" phrase. So, at night, I shorten it to "Near Iowa".

1021 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:58:06pm

Terrorist demand for all mujahideen to be released

MUMBAI, Thu.: A militant, along with his six attackers who are holding hostages inside the Trident Hotel here, has demanded that all mujahideen held in India be released, China’s Xinhua news agency reported today.
The militant identified as Sahadullah said the hostages will only be released from the luxury hotel if India meet with their demand.

Mujahideen are Muslims involved in a jihad, who are fighting in a war or involved in any other struggle.

“Release all the Mujahideens, and Muslims living in India should not be troubled,” he told reporters.

1022 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:58:37pm

re: #993 Sevoguy

Come on, seriously? No matter what the cost?

1023 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:58:48pm

re: #934 So?

Yeah, the info came from some one individual in Pakistan. What are the FBI, CIA & Homeland security doing here in the USA? Basting their turkeys for tomorrow. There's one way to stop all this nonsense and I posted it in the NYC bomb thread. Do you know where those bailout trillions are going? Why not? Oh, they don't want to tell you, it's none of your business. I rest my case.

ok, just read your post on the NYC bomb thread; I agree that would be a proper course of action and I would very much appreciate them doing so. Let go of PC, allow profiling and get on with it. Still there is a benefit in alerting the public to a perceived threat, that is the raise of awareness, which sadly is quite low and almost back at Sept 10 levels.
Yeah, it makes one a bit crazy too, I had a brief fit of doubt tonight debating with myself whether to take the C train home or rather take a cab. Glad to say I took the train.
Still equally glad about the police presence in the subway.

1024 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:59:12pm
1025 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:59:18pm

re: #1021 NJDhockeyfan

restive

1026 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:59:22pm

re: #1018 LindaMarie

No not at all. Kashmir in not an Islamic enemy, or at least not all of it.
That would be a disaster. There are nuclear weapons here after all, on all sides. Part of Kashmir is under China's control. It is split into three parts. I don't mean to sound like China would be the first to use a nuclear weapon, they would not I think, but they would certainly be the last and it would be devastating.

/if there's ever going to be a nuclear exchange . . .

1027 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:59:45pm

re: #1009 BlueCanuck

bollywood? That seems latino?

1028 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 9:59:57pm

check out joshuapundit's link up top--suicide car bomber hits US embassy in Kabul.

Helllooo, Pockeestahn.

1029 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:00:43pm

re: #1021 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone know what the Hindi translation for "Go piss up a rope" is?

1030 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:01:10pm

re: #986 realwest

Ah, ok, no conversions of sand to glass for me.
Genocide isn't the answer - governmental responsibility for defense is.
IF ONLY there were one or three or six nations we could pin all this terrorism on - clearly pin it on - that'd be different.

So we hunker down?

And do bee stings?

T. Jefferson did the deed. Here we are again. Solution?

1031 Inquisitive  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:01:22pm

It is now officially Thursday..here in Southern IL...
I wish all a very

Happy and Thankful...

THANKSGIVING

May God's Blessing be will us all today and everyday.

1032 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:02:15pm

re: #1027 ggt

reference to when it was called Bombay

Bombay + Hollywood = Bollywood

1033 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:02:16pm

re: #1024 Iron Fist

Yeah, an MP-5 will do that to you. I've shot M-4s, a full auto AK, even an M-60, and none of them are as fun as the little H&K squirtgun. I've got a friend that's got one, and he'd be more likely to part with a kidney than with his MP-5.

I was torn seriously considering the MP5 when looking, but decided my next was going to be a high power long gun.

1034 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:02:24pm

re: #1021 NJDhockeyfan

Terrorist demand for all mujahideen to be released

Why am I not surprised?

“Release all the Mujahideens, and Muslims living in India should not be troubled,” he told reporters.

*Lier spit*

1035 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:02:37pm

re: #1010 Geepers
Hey Geepers - how are you doing tonight?

1036 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:03:29pm

re: #1029 unclassifiable

Anyone know what the Hindi translation for "Go piss up a rope" is?

Try here.

1037 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:03:34pm
I was torn seriously considering the MP5 when looking, but decided my next was going to be a high power long gun.

Wow, you can get one of those? You must be LE.

1038 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:04:16pm

re: #1016 realwest

Would ya be disappointed if I postponed my "Self-Realization" till after the new year? Just thinking out loud given the up-tick in potential camel-based home slams...want to stay in the loop and post approp. ya know.

Thinking...

1039 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:04:34pm

re: #1000 jcm

You know I and a bunch of fellow lizards have been wondering what would be the upside for all of the folks who kept their finances in order and did not need a bailout.

And I think free lifetime class C licenses is the perfect lowcost solution.

Under those circumstances, make mine an FN FAL .308 please.

1040 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:04:36pm

re: #1018 LindaMarie

Holy crap. PRT? My husband gets the emails they send out looking for commanders for those ... over the last couple of years.

His mom is foreign service, and was considering taking charge of one. His dad had the same response to her that I had to my husband. The polite form of the response is "no thank you."

1041 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:05:21pm

re: #1023 2by2
Please stay away from the Macy's Day Parade tomorrow.
I know - you live in NYC and you'd never go anyway cause there are like a MILLION+ people crowded along the parade route, but don't give in to temptations or family or friends in from out of town!

1042 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:05:58pm

So?
still curious to find out where the bailout money is going.

1043 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:06:04pm

re: #1037 rawmuse

Wow, you can get one of those? You must be LE.

WA as long as it's not full auto, no problem other than cost. None of those silly mag limits, or other stuff.

1044 gmsc  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:07:03pm

re: #1042 2by2

So?
still curious to find out where the bailout corporate welfare money is going.

1045 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:07:08pm

realwest (#1035),

Doin' good realwest.

A very Happy Thanksgiving going out to you and your mom.

You are one of the people in this world that I'm Thankful for.

1046 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:07:08pm

re: #1043 jcm

WA as long as it's not full auto, no problem other than cost. None of those silly mag limits, or other stuff.

Very nice. Remind me to retire there.

1047 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:07:19pm

Glass is pretty! And shiny!

If I had to choose between losing hundreds of thousands of US military personnel and making glass in some parts of the middle east, well, bring on the glass.

1048 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:07:30pm

re: #1030 Bobibutu
T. Jefferson did nothing of the sort you're suggesting my friend. And I don't have any pat solutions, just know that I don't want to become them only worse.

1049 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:08:33pm

re: #1020 ggt

Tell that to people from the City --LOL

I was told once that I lived "where G-d lost his shoes".

A Lizard once even told me that there is no shame is saying I lived in Iowa.

Mostly I just get tired of typing the entire "Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland" phrase. So, at night, I shorten it to "Near Iowa".

That's cool! To most Chicagoans the western suburbs are Maywood, Melrose Park, Wood Dale, Bensenville, Elmhurst, Addison, etc. Anything west of those is the far western suburbs- Roselle, Bloomingdale, Carol Stream, Lombard, St. Charles. The very far western suburbs are Elgin, Carpentersville, Algonquin, and Aurora.

1050 Randall Gross  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:09:07pm

Time to get some sleeps here. See you all on the morrow, I'll be up early to get the smoker started.

1051 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:09:19pm

re: #1038 Nightwatch
Uh, what?

1052 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:09:28pm

re: #1040 funky chicken

Not PRT. In Kabul. Been to the PRT's - work related. Really, two years ago I would have written it is not so bad, dirty, depressing indeed but OK.
Now it is getting worse. Being an optimist I think it will turn around. Got my "go bag" packed just in case.

1053 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:09:49pm

re: #1039 unclassifiable

You know I and a bunch of fellow lizards have been wondering what would be the upside for all of the folks who kept their finances in order and did not need a bailout.

And I think free lifetime class C licenses is the perfect lowcost solution.

Under those circumstances, make mine an FN FAL .308 please.

I like that. Already got my .308 (real close image)

1054 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:10:00pm

re: #1032 funky chicken

reference to when it was called Bombay

Bombay + Hollywood = Bollywood

Isn't Bombay now called Mumbai, where all this crap is happening?

1055 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:10:45pm

I got to call it a night, we've got guests tomorrow and I have to get up early to take the youngest one to watch the parade
just outside of my building the floats passed by for the line up at 81 st already, so
happy Thanksgiving to all Lizards
good night

1056 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:11:23pm

re: #1045 Geepers
Why thanks Geepers, that's a very nice thing to say - and of course Mom and I send our Happy Thanksgiving wishes back to you too!
Hey, drop me a line when you get a chance, OK?!

1057 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:11:49pm
1058 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:11:51pm
The latest is that the terrorists came to Mubai by boatand hit ten seperate locations. 11 policemen are among the dead, so it looks like my little birdie was correct about the perps setting up secondary ambushes for cops and rescue workers who rushed to the scene - a typical tactic of jihadis.

The attack is still ongoing and there is a hostage situation going on at the Taj and Oberoi hotels, a local hospital and residential building that houses foreigners.

Six arrests have been made and Indian Mujahadeen, a Muslim group,(now there's a surprise) has already is taking creditaccording to Indian intelligence.

Indian Mujahadeen is a front group created by Pakistani terrorists Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Harkat ul Jihad al Islami to confuse investigators and cover the tracks of the Students' Islamic Movement of India, or SIMI, a radical Islamist movement. The groups receive support from Pakistan's infamous Inter-Service Intelligence(ISI) and are al Qaeda affiliates.

More as it develops...

From joshuapundit. Not good.

1059 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:12:31pm

re: #1050 Thanos
Good night Thanos and thanks for the good reporting today/tonight!

1060 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:12:44pm

re: #1055 2by2

I got to call it a night, we've got guests tomorrow and I have to get up early to take the youngest one to watch the parade
just outside of my building the floats passed by for the line up at 81 st already, so
happy Thanksgiving to all Lizards
good night

Wow! Michelangelo had a last name! I thought he was like Madonna or Cher.

1061 revobob  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:13:03pm

re: #988 Iron Fist
With the long guns neither am I- but 8 rounds of #4 will let me get to the safe and get my preferred fightin' irons- Para P14, STI HiCap .38 Super, AR, coupla SKS's and a couple of others, including the Smith 8-shot ..357. As long as momma can keep the mags loaded and/or the moon clips hold out, I'm good to go! (And shooting 3-4 matches a month keeps the rust thin)

1062 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:13:27pm

re: #1054 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Isn't Bombay now called Mumbai, where all this crap is happening?

I think the sequence works like this "Mumbai" is what the Indians call it, pre-British arrival. British rename it "Bombay", at the end of British rule, the name reverted back to "Mumbai".

1063 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:13:51pm

re: #1043 jcm

Have heard from friends "in field" that an M-14 with proper barrel adjustments is a very "Fine " long rifle! And lots of ammo still being produced. That is truly the key, avoid the exotics that can't produce the
bullet volume, unless of course you be a hand-loader.

1064 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:14:06pm

re: #1041 realwest

When you let them scare you and change how you live - they win.

I know it is not easy, the risk is there, everyday.
So how about a Lizard poll?
If you read of a threat to your neighorhood do you..
Stay in the house and call in sick?
Change your route of travel?
Say the h*ll with them and do not change anything?

I am sure there are other options to be added and some will no doubt be very interesting!

1065 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:14:22pm

re: #1052 LindaMarie

Wow. The husband says Kabul is pretty nice. Kandahar is a dump, and he wasn't at all impressed with Jalalabad.

Stay away from convoys if you can since the embassy just got hit. Reported one dead, hopefully just the driver.

Good night everybody

Ozark Mountain--yes, Bombay is now called Mumbai. Or Mumbai used to be called Bombay, I guess.

1066 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:14:33pm

re: #1057 Iron Fist

It's more practical. What I'd get if I had the money is one of those semi-auto PKMs. They're six grand or so, but man they are nice. I like a MG-3 a little better. I just know that if I bought the kit I'd wind up fucking it up somehow.

Buy the kit and spend a little extra to have a gun smith assembly it.

1067 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:14:37pm

Son of a ...

1068 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:14:37pm

re: #1062 rawmuse

I think the sequence works like this "Mumbai" is what the Indians call it, pre-British arrival. British rename it "Bombay", at the end of British rule, the name reverted back to "Mumbai".

I like Bombay Gin.

1069 neocon hippie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:14:38pm

Just saw on the IBN feed that some of the terrorists have escaped -- doesn't say from where -- in police vehicles. Yikes!

1070 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:14:53pm

realwest (#1056),

Hey, drop me a line when you get a chance, OK?!

Will do.

1071 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:15:05pm

Getting sleepy...g'nite lizards.

Happy Thanksgiving!

1072 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:15:12pm

re: #1036 gmsc

The "flip flop" translation was "A rope to go pee" which just doesn't deliver the right diplomatic import I was trying to convey.

But thanks anyway.

1073 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:15:13pm

re: #1067 Rancher

Son of a ...

bitch, maybe?

1074 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:15:34pm

re: #1068 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I like Bombay Gin.

Back in my drinking days I loved Herricks.

1075 tommygum  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:15:40pm

re: #1037 rawmuse

Wow, you can get one of those? You must be LE.


If you live in a "class III" state ( roughly 30 of the 50) and are "clean" you can apply for a class III licence, just like a pistol permit. That and "bullet-money" are all that separate you from rockin' and rollin'. Low end subguns start at about 5K. Thompsons 12K and up. Definatly a rich man's hobby.

1076 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:16:28pm

re: #1069 neocon hippie

Just saw on the IBN feed that some of the terrorists have escaped -- doesn't say from where -- in police vehicles. Yikes!

Well those should be hard to spot.
/

1077 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:16:36pm

re: #1063 Nightwatch
M-14 is indeed a very fine long arm - great distance and accuracy without glass (scope) - good out to 400+ yards.

1078 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:16:36pm

re: #1058 funky chicken


Sounds accurate however. The details of the groups are right on.

1079 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:16:44pm

re: #1063 Nightwatch

Have heard from friends "in field" that an M-14 with proper barrel adjustments is a very "Fine " long rifle! And lots of ammo still being produced. That is truly the key, avoid the exotics that can't produce the
bullet volume, unless of course you be a hand-loader.

One of the reason I went that way. Lot's of parts, lots of ammo. Range and terminal ballistics.

1080 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:17:04pm

re: #1062 rawmuse

Pretty much the readers digest version of it...

1081 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:17:13pm

re: #1074 rawmuse

Back in my drinking days I loved Herricks.

You don't drink? Heretic!

1082 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:17:39pm

re: #1051 realwest

re: #1064 LindaMarie

Just watching the news,...thinking.

1083 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:17:58pm

re: #1052 LindaMarie

N Being an optimist I think it will turn around. Got my "go bag" packed just in case.

Obama says surge, but that's not necessarily the best strategy, given the terrain and political situation.

/he'll bail in his first term

1084 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:18:16pm

re: #1081 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You don't drink? Heretic!

Actually, I need to quit also. Fortunately I do every night.

1085 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:18:19pm

re: #1068 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LOL I just finished with some cooking and having a little Bombay martini as we speak.

1086 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:18:27pm

re: #1081 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Never trust a man that doesn't drink or swear, I'm just sayin...

1087 Inquisitive  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:18:34pm

I was not able to be here...due to cold...but Tuesday was my one year anv. here at LGF!
Thanks Charles for this great site to come and get the real facts about so many important issues in our great country and world wide, and all the other stuff thrown in is great also. Learn so much here,...it's a wonderful site for ainquisitive person.

1088 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:18:51pm

re: #1081 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You don't drink? Heretic!

Had to stop or die. Hey, I had my fun. When I stopped there were massive layoffs at Millers.

1089 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:19:14pm

re: #1073 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Yeah, missed another registration, rustler will have to wait again.

1090 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:19:30pm

Last thought before bed...remember Obama's mysterious trips to Pakistan as a college student?

The mysterious Pakistani roommates who just happened to be part of the corruptocrats over there?

good night.

1091 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:19:37pm

re: #1041 realwest

thanks for your concern real, but I will not be cowed into submission by these bastards, without being careless, I will take my 9 year old to watch, like every year from the front entrance of the Natural History Museum on 81 .

1092 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:20:27pm

eddiespaghetti (#1086),

Never trust a man that doesn't drink or swear, I'm just sayin...

That's bullshit!

;-)

1093 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:20:28pm

re: #1089 Rancher

Yeah, missed another registration, rustler will have to wait again.

Sock puppets are not allowed.

1094 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:21:04pm
1095 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:21:16pm

re: #1088 rawmuse

Had to stop or die. Hey, I had my fun. When I stopped there were massive layoffs at Millers.

Stop or die? Well, it's a good thing you stopped then.

1096 gop_patriot  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:21:28pm

Going to take a hot bath to relax.

bbiab.

1097 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:22:00pm

re: #1093 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Sock puppets are not allowed.

Rustler ain't no sock-puppet...Rustler is Rancher's kid(?), or will be once there is an open registration when they are on line.

1098 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:22:10pm

Good night folks. Take care of one and other.

1099 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:22:19pm

re: #1094 Iron Fist

That may be what ends up happening. I didn't realize this kit was available until I went searching for MG-3 semi-auto. I know where an 8mm MG-34 semi-auto can be found, but I'd prefer a .308. Back about 15 years ago Rock Island Armory produced some semi-auto M-60s, and Volmer produced some semi-auto Model 21s. Either one of those would be fine. Full-auto Model 21s tend to beat themselves to death, but that wouldn't be a problem with a semi.

Damn, but I need to be rich :-)

Any week now I'll win the lotto. Have to remember to buy a ticket first.

1100 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:22:26pm

re: #1023 2by2

I am so glad that you made it home without anything happening. I was so worried re my youngest son and a daughter in law...she uses the LIRR and the subway.

They had to warn people. They would have been negligent if they hadn't.

I just hope that Hussein's flunkies will not hesitate to issue a warning when there is, G-d forbid, due cause. We live in dangerous times, putting it mildly.

I am going to do a bit more prep. for Thanksgiving, which will be a combination Thanksgiving/Shabbat affair, on Friday evening, as this year the kids will go to their in-laws, as there are some family members coming in from out of state. We decided that we didn't want to pick one set of the kids' in-laws over the 3 sets of families! ;)

Youngest son will come here tonight if he does not have to fill in at work, for a normal dinner.

And the 3 married kids get 2 doggy bags giant bags of meals to throw in the microwave, a win-win situation.

To all Lizards, have a happy, happy Thanksgiving...especially if you don't have to cook!

Back to the scullery I go..one more thing to make for Friday...homemade fresh cranberry-orange relish.

The rest gets done this afternoon, and the turkey, and baked stuffing (separate), and veggies on Friday.

1101 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:22:46pm

re: #1048 realwest

T. Jefferson did nothing of the sort you're suggesting my friend. And I don't have any pat solutions, just know that I don't want to become them only worse.

[Link: www.usvetdsp.com...]

and

[Link: www.loc.gov...]

We have a problem - well there is a problem.

1102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:23:03pm

re: #1085 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL I just finished with some cooking and having a little Bombay martini as we speak.

Now that brings back mammories, I mean memories. Shaken martinis. With an olive and pearl onion.

1103 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:23:12pm

re: #1092 Geepers

Sorry, it was sage advice my old man gave me...

With a grain of salt of course, but a good place to start, me tinks!

1104 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:23:34pm

re: #1089 Rancher

Yeah, missed another registration, rustler will have to wait again.

I thought Ranchers hung Rustlers!

//

We'll be looking for him next time around.

1105 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:23:41pm

re: #1099 jcm

Any week now I'll win the lotto. Have to remember to buy a ticket first.

I buy one every 3 weeks (10 draws)...winning never happens.

1106 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:23:56pm

re: #1097 FurryOldGuyJeans

Rustler ain't no sock-puppet...Rustler is Rancher's kid(?), or will be once there is an open registration when they are on line.

Oh. OK, sorry Rancher.

1107 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:24:01pm

re: #1079 jcm

Would love to get my hands on a "Mini-Rancher", and then be able to apply a capable switch-out to a rightous bull barrel! Yes, saw the most recent systems, but hell, I could buy a good used car for the love of pete!

1108 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:24:07pm

re: #1089 Rancher

If you two want I can give Rustler my sock account. :)

/he might even like the nick

1109 rawmuse  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:24:25pm

Goodnight, Lizards! I am retiring for the eve.
Ms. rawmuse and I hit the jackpot for tomorrow, we got invited over another couple's home and they said "don't bring a thing". So we have an orchid for them.
See you all later.

1110 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:24:38pm

re: #1100 NY Nana

Whew --- go go girl!

1111 [deleted]  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:24:52pm
1112 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:24:56pm

re: #1105 FurryOldGuyJeans

I buy one every 3 weeks (10 draws)...winning never happens.

What state?

1113 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:25:01pm

eddiespaghetti (#1103),

You must have missed my ";-)"

1114 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:25:18pm

re: #1109 rawmuse

Goodnight, Lizards! I am retiring for the eve.
Ms. rawmuse and I hit the jackpot for tomorrow, we got invited over another couple's home and they said "don't bring a thing". So we have an orchid for them.
See you all later.

Later raw.

1115 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:25:19pm

re: #1064 LindaMarie
Oh sure, you being all safe there in Kabul, that's easy for you to...uh, nevermind!
No, I know what your saying, what I'm saying is that going to an event that is TRULY better seen on TV in any event is - well, not for those of us who are visually stimulated.
And of course when W said, after 9/11 we should go out shopping and doing our business he was right. And I did, after a fashion. OTOH, TODAY the HLS, FBI and NYPD - not known for their flights of fancy - said they had evidence from a source who has been credible in the past, warning them about Penn Station and the LIRR and Subways. Well depending on the source tomorrow might be a really great day to watch the parade on TV.
And no, despite the gun talk out here, going out armed to the teeth will not help you if the bad guys decide to use C-4 on several locations along the parade route.
BTW, did you see my #845 above to you?

1116 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:25:21pm

re: #1110 LindaMarie

Whew --- goyou go girl!

Sorry!

1117 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:26:11pm

re: #1107 Nightwatch

Would love to get my hands on a "Mini-Rancher", and then be able to apply a capable switch-out to a rightous bull barrel! Yes, saw the most recent systems, but hell, I could buy a good used car for the love of pete!

Know what you mean, by the time you add up my Springfield, chassis and optics, its a nice used car or a vacation.

1118 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:26:20pm

re: #1111 Iron Fist

I'm with you. Goodnight, folks. We get to sleep in tomorrow :-)

Geez, everyone is leaving.

1119 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:26:59pm

re: #1112 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

What state?

WA, $10 for 3 weeks, would only waste the money on things like paying bills or food or gas for the car if I wasn't buying lotto tickets.

1120 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:27:11pm

re: #1102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LOL I have mine shaken with a twist.

1121 Geepers  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:27:17pm

Iron Fist (#1111),

I'm with you. Goodnight, folks. We get to sleep in tomorrow :-)

Hell I sleep in everyday, sometimes until quarter after six.

1122 pat  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:27:26pm

Let us all ponder for a minute that the Pakistani/Kashmir terrorists wanted to kill Americans, British, and Jews.
Has anyone really given that thought? America and Britain have nothing to do with Muslims in India. There are only 15,000 Jews in India.
Hmmm.
Islamologic. They think that with America gone they will rule the world.

1123 shanec99  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:27:36pm

re: #4 whiterasta
Howdy Rasta

1124 2by2  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:28:05pm

re: #1100 NY Nana

thanks Nana, good to hear from you.
agreed that we do live in dangerous times, so we need some courage, maybe we should all take a hint from your generation, they were the greatest in the courage department.
Have a great Thanksgiving / Shabbat affair and regards to the kids and all the grandchildren.

1125 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:28:25pm

re: #1115 realwest

HLS- Homeland Security, rw?

1126 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:29:11pm

re: #1086 eddiespaghetti

Never trust a man that doesn't drink or swear, I'm just sayin...

/The Chamber Of 32 Doors

1127 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:29:20pm

re: #1071 NJDhockeyfan
Good night to ya and Happy Thanksgiving!

1128 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:29:23pm

re: #1113 Geepers

You must have missed my ";-)"

Gotcha! Attention to details, and I stand by the sage advice...

1129 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:29:30pm

re: #1093 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

His nic and e-mail, my son is not a sock puppet, if he were I could cash his check.

1130 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:30:02pm

re: #1120 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL I have mine shaken with a twist.

Twisting!

1131 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:30:17pm

Has anyone heard that an American intelligence official may have been killed in India? Heard something about it on twitter, looking for any possible link.

1132 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:30:21pm

re: #1129 Rancher

His nic and e-mail, my son is not a sock puppet, if he were I could cash his check.

lol

1133 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:31:27pm

re: #1107 Nightwatch
Mini-Rancher?

1134 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:31:44pm

re: #1087 InquisitiveHey! Congrat's on your one year anniversary here! Gee, it doesn't seem that long ago - time really does fly when you're having fun!

1135 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:32:09pm

re: #1118 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
I'll stay the watch, things are kinda...strange out here on the left coast tonight... and not just cuz I'm posting...;]

1136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:32:30pm

re: #1129 Rancher

His nic and e-mail, my son is not a sock puppet, if he were I could cash his check.

Ok, son (scribbles that down). Only been paying passing attention to the rustler "controversy" and am glad to see I was not totally wrong about the particulars. :)

1137 wolfie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:32:42pm

re: #1133 Rancher

I thought for a moment they were talking about Rustler! :)

1138 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:32:50pm

re: #1129 Rancher

His nic and e-mail, my son is not a sock puppet, if he were I could cash his check.

Did rustler get registered?
Good morning everybody!

1139 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:33:01pm

re: #1091 2by2
Well then good luck and have a great time!

1140 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:33:42pm

re: #1138 HoosierHoops

Did rustler get registered?
Good morning everybody!

Alas, no :(

1141 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:34:36pm

re: #1135 Nightwatch

I'll stay the watch, things are kinda...strange out here on the left coast tonight... and not just cuz I'm posting...;]

Crap, I just went over 3000 posts. Last time I checked I was at about 1,500.

1142 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:34:40pm

re: #1068 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #1090 funky chicken

Last thought before bed...remember Obama's mysterious trips to Pakistan as a college student?

The mysterious Pakistani roommates who just happened to be part of the corruptocrats over there?

good night.

OOh, I love it! The Mumbaisian Candidate?

1143 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:34:43pm

re: #1115 realwest

Yes - thank you for your concern. Hubby and I are fine. We are careful which is why TG dinner at the Serena tonight might be canceled for us.
Careful is no guarantee I realize. I REFUSE to let them intimidate me.
I will continue to work and demonstrate to the the women here that they are not less then human and only good for making babies.
Got 8 Afgahan men on my crew and we all get along. Takes time to get their trust and then they appreciate the fact that my IT staff is under my protection as it may be. No Expat can abuse them but I expect them to be professional in their work and do not allow "inshallah" excuses.

1144 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:35:19pm

Followup ---

Guy who shot up Southcenter Mall near Seattle caught.

It takes 2/3 of the article to get to the gang part, 'cause in Seattle gang is code us racists use.

1145 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:36:50pm

re: #1144 jcm

Followup ---

Guy who shot up Southcenter Mall near Seattle caught.

It takes 2/3 of the article to get to the gang part, 'cause in Seattle gang is code us racists use.

Hang 'im.

1146 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:37:08pm

re: #1133 Rancher


That is the title! Short stock/Barrel, but with all the "Yippie-I-ya...M...F
down range punking-power...A rare find if you can lay your hands on one.

1147 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:37:19pm

re: #1101 Bobibutu Now see when you said TJ "did the deed" I thought you were referring to what I was talking about - genocide.
Learning about them and tolerating those who are peaceful is American.
Murdering a billion or so isn't.

1148 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:37:20pm

re: #1141 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I just went over 4,000 recently. I guess we are "grown-up" lizards now.

1149 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:38:48pm

re: #1109 rawmuse
Goodnight my friend - have a great Thanksgiving!

1150 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:38:50pm

re: #1126 Killian Bundy

Golly, 5:04 on that song. I too would rather "trust a country man than a town man".

1151 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:39:18pm

re: #1145 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hang 'im.

We got one in Walla Walla scheduled soon, but the 9th Circus slapped a stay on. McKenna is appealing to SCOTUS.

1152 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:39:21pm

re: #1148 Pvt Bin Jammin

I just went over 4,000 recently. I guess we are "grown-up" lizards now.

10,000 brings "venerable", 40,000 "decrepit". ;)

1153 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:40:11pm

re: #1110 LindaMarie

Ha! I would rather go...to sleep! ;)

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

/Anyone have an extra bag of cranberries in the freezer? NY Grampa thought there was more than enough for me to make a double recipe...ahem.

1154 wolfie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:40:28pm

I pray that my cherry-cranberry aspic sets properly. (I don't think I can pass it off as "Scandinavian Fruit Soup" two years in a row. Mr. Wolf is pretty stupid when it comes to cuisine, but he's not THAT stupid.)

I pray, as very good Redskins fan does, that the Cowboys fall on their faces and bite the dust like the vermin that they are and ever will be.

And I pray that all of you have a blessed Thanksgiving Day! :)

Goodnight!

1155 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:40:41pm

re: #1125 Ozark Mountain Daredevil Yep!

1156 cliffster  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:40:54pm

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! Tell me, why are we blowing each other up halfway around the world in a country that doesn't get in the middle of the major arguments of the world?

1157 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:41:12pm

re: #1152 FurryOldGuyJeans

LOL We probably have a few "decrepit" lizards already.

1158 Inquisitive  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:41:26pm

re: #1134 realwest

Hey! Congrat's on your one year anniversary here! Gee, it doesn't seem that long ago - time really does fly when you're having fun!

Thanks for the Congrat's...don't post much...but I sure do like the info I get from just lurking...

1159 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:41:44pm

re: #1148 Pvt Bin Jammin

I just went over 4,000 recently. I guess we are "grown-up" lizards now.

The only reason I checked was because of the karma stuff. I usually only have a couple days a week when I'm here for a few hours or more, like tonight, otherwise I'm a "Hit and run" poster- Post a comment or two or three then back to work. I don't announce when I enter or leave. I figure no one cares, lol.

1160 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:41:52pm

re: #1138 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops - how are ya?

1161 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:41:56pm

re: #1152 FurryOldGuyJeans

10,000 brings "venerable", 40,000 "decrepit". ;)

Next stop is decrepit?
Damn...

Charles, deleted 90% of my posts will ya'?

1162 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:42:23pm

re: #1157 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL We probably have a few "decrepit" lizards already.

I know NOTHING! ;)

1163 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:42:39pm

re: #1152 FurryOldGuyJeans

10,000 brings "venerable", 40,000 "decrepit". ;)

So does that make realwest "ancient"? J/K. rw!

1164 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:43:24pm

re: #1159 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That's kind of how I am. Took a look because of the karma thing too.

1165 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:43:31pm

Kabul blast
The U.S. Embassy was hosting a Thanksgiving Day fun run at 9 a.m., so Americans and other Westerners were entering the embassy compound when the bomb went off, sending some participants sprinting for the embassy gates.

We had one person going there - by the other gate to ISAF. They turned around and he is fine.
Security rules! We avoid the Circle

1166 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:43:44pm

re: #1152 FurryOldGuyJeans HEY! I resent that remark! Mandy is NOT decrepit!
;')

1167 Inquisitive  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:44:08pm

re: #1153 NY Nana

Ha! I would rather go...to sleep! ;)

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

/Anyone have an extra bag of cranberries in the freezer? NY Grampa thought there was more than enough for me to make a double recipe...ahem.

Sorry, can't help you out...already cooked all mine up...

1168 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:44:13pm

re: #1160 realwest

Good morning Hoops - how are ya?

Good Morning RealWest!
How goes it?
Everybody went to bed.. I'm not sleepy..too much coffee?

1169 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:44:39pm

re: #1166 realwest

HEY! I resent that remark! Mandy is NOT decrepit!
;')

Mandy'll beat him to a pulp with her walker!

;-P

1170 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:44:42pm

re: #1154 wolfie

I pray, as very good Redskins fan does, that the Cowboys fall on their faces and bite the dust like the vermin that they are and ever will be.


Romo's pinky is almost healed, Seattle is toast. Pray all you want, God is a Cowboy fan 'cause it's America's team.

1171 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:44:51pm

re: #1162 FurryOldGuyJeans

I know NOTHING! ;)

Maybe we'd better change that rating. LOL "Silver" lizards or something?

1172 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:44:52pm

re: #1150 eddiespaghetti

Golly, 5:04 on that song. I too would rather "trust a country man than a town man".

/that's the whole point of the album,this one's shorter

1173 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:45:04pm

re: #1147 realwest

Now see when you said TJ "did the deed" I thought you were referring to what I was talking about - genocide.
Learning about them and tolerating those who are peaceful is American.
Murdering a billion or so isn't.

Rgr - harsh retribution specifically defined is appropriate - wanton destruction is beyond us.

1174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:45:32pm

re: #1163 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So does that make realwest "ancient"? J/K. rw!

I take the fifth. ;)

1175 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:45:42pm

re: #1163 Ozark Mountain Daredevil A very small "jk" too! LOL!

1176 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:45:56pm

re: #1170 Rancher

Romo's pinky is almost healed, Seattle is toast. Pray all you want, God is a Cowboy fan 'cause it's America's team.

Seattle's been toast all season, so have the Huskies, so have the Cougars, so have the Sonics... wait they left town... maybe they were the smart ones.

1177 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:46:21pm

re: #1166 realwest

HEY! I resent that remark! Mandy is NOT decrepit!
;')

I take the fifth, *hic* ;)

1178 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:46:36pm

re: #1152 FurryOldGuyJeans

10,000 brings "venerable", 40,000 "decrepit". ;)

Well, I guess I am approaching "venerable" then. Appropiate since yesterday was my second LGF birthday.

/and only a few hundred posts to go too.

1179 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:47:04pm

re: #1152 FurryOldGuyJeans


Hate to punk you, feel free to respond..or...not. What do you think MY karma meter pegs at presently? Have not figured out how to use said meter being a lizard with 4 thumbs only wrapped around the wine glass stem.

1180 cliffster  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:47:07pm

re: #1154 wolfie


I pray, as very good Redskins fan does, that the Cowboys fall on their faces and bite the dust like the vermin that they are and ever will be.

Redskins prayers were not answered a couple of weeks ago, why should they be answered now?

1181 Outrider  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:47:14pm

re: #1174 FurryOldGuyJeans

I take the fifth. ;)

Beethoven's?

1182 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:47:23pm

re: #1169 jcm Oh man, she's gonna *whack* you tomorrow - or later today, for that one! LOL!

1183 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:47:41pm

re: #1177 FurryOldGuyJeans

I take the fifth, *hic* ;)

Scotch?

1184 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:48:03pm

re: #1169 jcm

Mandy'll beat him to a pulp with her walker!

;-P

We'd have a walker fight, then. ;)

1185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:48:27pm

I hate it windows installs updates without asking me. Now every couple minutes Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer IM me that they want to restart my computer.
Isn't their all money enough to just leave me alone?

1186 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:48:31pm

re: #1181 Outrider

Beethoven's?

1st 16 mins.

1187 ggt  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:48:39pm

I'm getting tired, Lizards!

weet dreams all!

1188 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:48:51pm

re: #1182 realwest

Oh man, she's gonna *whack* you tomorrow - or later today, for that one! LOL!

I'm a slow learner...

1189 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:49:26pm

re: #1179 Nightwatch

Hate to punk you, feel free to respond..or...not. What do you think MY karma meter pegs at presently? Have not figured out how to use said meter being a lizard with 4 thumbs only wrapped around the wine glass stem.

Punk me all you want...won't bother me one whit.

1190 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:49:40pm

re: #1187 ggt
Good night ggt! Happy Thanksgiving!

1191 shanec99  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:49:55pm

re: #1170 Rancher
I hope that Dallas gets beaten to a pulp. Gosh how Tom Landry must be smilining from above that they wont make the play offs this year. Heh Heh.

1192 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:50:00pm

re: #1185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I hate it windows installs updates without asking me. Now every couple minutes Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer IM me that they want to restart my computer.
Isn't their all money enough to just leave me alone?

Dude - you signed up.

Take the consequences.
/

1193 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:50:05pm

re: #1175 realwest

A very small "jk" too! LOL!

We all love you. In a straight manly kinda way.

1194 Outrider  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:50:33pm

re: #1184 FurryOldGuyJeans

We'd have a walker fight, then. ;)

I wonder what a Zimmer Frame fight would look like? Or a grannie race?

1195 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:50:36pm

re: #1156 cliffster

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! Tell me, why are we blowing each other up halfway around the world in a country that doesn't get in the middle of the major arguments of the world?


Kashmir The reason they also want Americans and Brits are because we are the ones draining the swamps like Iraq and Afghanistan. Jews, well, they have always wanted to kill Jews.

1196 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:50:55pm

Yeah, I gotta get some sleep too. I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING, a Happy Thanksgiving, and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all!

1197 x-wing  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:51:34pm

re: #1188 jcm

I'm a slow learner...

You might want to practice pissing up a rope tonight. It may be a requirement come morning ;>}

///

1198 realwest  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:51:55pm

re: #1193 Ozark Mountain Daredevil Huh, not based on my karma y'all don't!
Now, goodnight all y'all!

1199 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:51:58pm

re: #1196 realwest

Yeah, I gotta get some sleep too. I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING, a Happy Thanksgiving, and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all!

Nite Dude -

1200 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:52:06pm

re: #1194 Outrider

I wonder what a Zimmer Frame fight would look like? Or a grannie race?

All I can say is mine is a VA Hospital special.

1201 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:52:17pm

re: #1170 Rancher

Romo's pinky is almost healed, Seattle is toast. Pray all you want, God is a Cowboy fan 'cause it's America's team.

The only one who say that are people from Texas, although when I was growing up in Phoenix, they were all Cowboys fans. It drove me nuts. This was back in the 70's, wayyy before the AZ Cardinals.

1202 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:52:28pm

re: #1189 FurryOldGuyJeans

Poker player, fare enough.

1203 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:52:32pm

re: #1162 FurryOldGuyJeans

I know NOTHING! ;)

Sgt. Schultz

1204 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:53:30pm

re: #1187 ggt

I'm getting tired, Lizards!

weet dreams all!

Bye ggt, happy thanksgiving, and speaking of giving, I was just giving you crap about the western burbs of Chicago.

1205 cliffster  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:53:43pm

re: #1195 Rancher

Kashmir The reason they also want Americans and Brits are because we are the ones draining the swamps like Iraq and Afghanistan. Jews, well, they have always wanted to kill Jews.

There's been fighting over Kashmir for decades. They just want attention, and human life is so cheap to them that a few hundred lives is nothing if it brings them the spotlight. And they probably want to see how the Office of President-Elect will react.

1206 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:53:49pm

re: #1197 x-wing

You might want to practice pissing up a rope tonight. It may be a requirement come morning ;>}

///

Sounds like a good idea...
.
.
Hey...

Wait a minute!

1207 shanec99  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:53:57pm

re: #1192 Bobibutu

Dude - you signed up.

Take the consequences.
/


How I hear it is that Bill Gates' software company is named for his phallus' major characteristics.

Micro
Soft.

(Can anyone forgive me for being bad?)

1208 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:54:20pm

re: #1172 Killian Bundy

4:23 is indeed shorter. Your reminding me of a music linky guy from way down in Mexico, back in the day. Don't know where he went, but back acha, a little shorter, and with a banjo:

1209 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:54:29pm

re: #1202 Nightwatch

Poker player, fare enough.

No, I just really don't give a tinker's dam about playing popular. Comes from being a crotchety old dude.

1210 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:54:34pm

re: #1185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You can change that - it is annoying.
Start - Control Panel - Windows updates (depending on your OS)
clink on download and notify me.

You do want to download and install the updates, many are security related. This way you choose when they install.

1211 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:54:51pm

re: #1196 realwest

'Nite, Realwest. Hope you and your mom have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

1212 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:54:51pm

Id like to think that I'm 'seasoned'...

1213 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:56:02pm

re: #1212 Fenway_Nation

At least you know your way around the diamond/rink.

1214 cliffster  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:56:08pm

re: #1201 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The only one who say that are people from Texas, although when I was growing up in Phoenix, they were all Cowboys fans. It drove me nuts. This was back in the 70's, wayyy before the AZ Cardinals.

The only people who say that Texans are the only people who say the Cowboys are God's team are people from the Northeast. Even the 49's in the eighties felt like they were stealing when they won in the NFC Championships (aka the "Superbowl" back then).

1215 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:56:16pm

re: #1205 cliffster

There's been fighting over Kashmir for decades. They just want attention, and human life is so cheap to them that a few hundred lives is nothing if it brings them the spotlight. And they probably want to see how the Office of President-Elect will react.

You'd think the Zepplin song would have ended all that...

1216 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:56:17pm

re: #1212 Fenway_Nation

Id like to think that I'm 'seasoned'...

I prefer being spicy and tart. ;)

1217 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:56:39pm

re: #1207 shanec99

How I hear it is that Bill Gates' software company is named for his phallus' major characteristics.

Micro
Soft.

(Can anyone forgive me for being bad?)

Bad Boy - BG is a marketing genius. Nuff said. Wait! The products suck.

1218 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:56:42pm

re: #1209 FurryOldGuyJeans

Then fine as rain you be!

I ain't popular...most days that is..

1219 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:57:12pm

re: #1167 Inquisitive

Sorry, can't help you out...already cooked all mine up...

NY Grampa has 'volunteered' to get 2 12-oz bags of them in the AM, as luckily 2 supermarkets are open. I feel badly for the people who have to work, though.

I don't cook mine..they go into the guillotine food processor with the navel oranges, in batches.

Going to sleep ASAP, as today will be a busy day. We have 2 English girls also coming for Friday, for a real (1 day delayed, but real) Thanksgiving dinner..their first. One is the daughter of a nearly life-long friend, in London. She is here for a year on a work assignment, and returns home in 2 weeks. She is like family, and her friend really wants to see what Thanksgiving is like!

Hi, ho,hi,ho, it's off to sleep I go!

G'nite, sweet dreams, and have the best Thanksgiving ever, lizards!

1220 Outrider  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:57:22pm

re: #1200 FurryOldGuyJeans

All I can say is mine is a VA Hospital special.

Instead of a walker, have you considered one of these? ;-)>

1221 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:57:25pm

re: #1205 cliffster

Right on. The timing is not a coincidence.

1222 cliffster  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:57:29pm

re: #1215 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You'd think the Zepplin song would have ended all that...

I like that. Not enough of Page's guitar to make any real change, I guess.

1223 jcm  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:57:34pm

re: #1207 shanec99

How I hear it is that Bill Gates' software company is named for his phallus' major characteristics.

Micro
Soft.

(Can anyone forgive me for being bad?)

You heard Bill and Melinda are getting a divorce?

She won't do windows.

1224 Bob Dillon  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:58:17pm

re: #1219 NY Nana

NY Grampa has 'volunteered' to get 2 12-oz bags of them in the AM, as luckily 2 supermarkets are open. I feel badly for the people who have to work, though.

I don't cook mine..they go into the guillotine food processor with the navel oranges, in batches.

Going to sleep ASAP, as today will be a busy day. We have 2 English girls also coming for Friday, for a real (1 day delayed, but real) Thanksgiving dinner..their first. One is the daughter of a nearly life-long friend, in London. She is here for a year on a work assignment, and returns home in 2 weeks. She is like family, and her friend really wants to see what Thanksgiving is like!

Hi, ho,hi,ho, it's off to sleep I go!

G'nite, sweet dreams, and have the best Thanksgiving ever, lizards!

Nitey poo - gotta rest up to feed the homeless tomorrow.

1225 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:58:20pm

re: #1207 shanec99

How I hear it is that Bill Gates' software company is named for his phallus' major characteristics.

Micro
Soft.

(Can anyone forgive me for being bad?)

That joke is so old my ancestors fell off their dinosaur laughing when the heard it!

/about 8000 years ago.

1226 Nightwatch  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:58:51pm

re: #1223 jcm

HEW!

1227 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:58:52pm

re: #1220 Outrider

Instead of a walker, have you considered one of these? ;-)>

Only if the VA authorizes it. ;)

1228 Inquisitive  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 10:59:45pm

re: #1219 NY Nana

NY Grampa has 'volunteered' to get 2 12-oz bags of them in the AM, as luckily 2 supermarkets are open. I feel badly for the people who have to work, though.

I don't cook mine..they go into the guillotine food processor with the navel oranges, in batches.

Going to sleep ASAP, as today will be a busy day. We have 2 English girls also coming for Friday, for a real (1 day delayed, but real) Thanksgiving dinner..their first. One is the daughter of a nearly life-long friend, in London. She is here for a year on a work assignment, and returns home in 2 weeks. She is like family, and her friend really wants to see what Thanksgiving is like!

Hi, ho,hi,ho, it's off to sleep I go!

G'nite, sweet dreams, and have the best Thanksgiving ever, lizards!

Sounds like you are going to have great fun and a HOUSEFUL!
Take care of yourself...and have a very Happy Thanksgiving!

1229 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:01:00pm

re: #1214 cliffster

The only people who say that Texans are the only people who say the Cowboys are God's team are people from the Northeast. Even the 49's in the eighties felt like they were stealing when they won in the NFC Championships (aka the "Superbowl" back then).

I thought the Fighting Irish were God's team. I'm sure glad I'm not God. Then there's the ROP...This is confusing!

1230 LindaMarie  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:01:03pm

re: #1228 Inquisitive
Ditto to NY Nana.

1231 shanec99  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:01:56pm

re: #1225 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That joke is so old my ancestors fell off their dinosaur laughing when the heard it!

/about 8000 years ago.


I heard that Noah told it back when he was a midshipman at the Naval Academy.
But I didn't know that he had dinosaurs on the Ark too.

1232 Rancher  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:01:58pm

re: #1201 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The only one who say that are people from Texas, although when I was growing up in Phoenix, they were all Cowboys fans. It drove me nuts. This was back in the 70's, wayyy before the AZ Cardinals.


I'm from New Mexico. When Albuquerque gets a team, I'll still be a Cowboy fan.

1233 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:02:02pm

re: #1215 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Oh Snap, good point:

"Kashmir"

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed

Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, whose sounds caress my ear
But not a word I heard could I relate, the story was quite clear
Oh, oh.

Oh, I been flying... mama, there ain't no denyin'
I've been flying, ain't no denyin', no denyin'

All I see turns to brown, as the sun burns the ground
And my eyes fill with sand, as I scan this wasted land
Trying to find, trying to find where I've been.

Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace, like thoughts inside a dream
Heed the path that led me to that place, yellow desert stream
My Shangri-La beneath the summer moon, I will return again
Sure as the dust that floats high in June, when movin' through Kashmir.

Oh, father of the four winds, fill my sails, across the sea of years
With no provision but an open face, along the straits of fear
Ohh.

When I'm on, when I'm on my way, yeah
When I see, when I see the way, you stay-yeah

Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, when I'm down...
Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, well I'm down, so down
Ooh, my baby, oooh, my baby, let me take you there

Let me take you there. Let me take you there

1234 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:02:04pm

re: #1219 NY Nana

Good nite, Nana, have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

I made cranberry chutney tonight from scratch. Mine is cooked. I freaked out because I forgot the orange, of all things. As luck would have it one of my hubby's customers gave him a few oranges from their tree and he had one left!

1235 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:02:41pm

re: #1208 eddiespaghetti

4:23 is indeed shorter. Your reminding me of a music linky guy from way down in Mexico, back in the day. Don't know where he went, but back acha, a little shorter, and with a banjo:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

/Lost Performances (1/5)

1236 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:03:19pm

New thread!

1237 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:08:19pm

re: #1228 Inquisitive

Sounds like you are going to have great fun and a HOUSEFUL!
Take care of yourself...and have a very Happy Thanksgiving!

The count now is 11, and if my daughter, 2-year old grandson and son in law can get back here from Philly on Friday, we go to 14! They will try. We are in a typical NY apartment, in the 'burbs, but a bit larger that those in the city...we have a ginormous shoe horn to fit everyone in! ;)

But this is such a family holiday that it truly is the more, the merrier!

1238 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:08:42pm

re: #1177 FurryOldGuyJeans

I take the fifth, *hic* ;)

Pass the Black Bush please

1239 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:10:21pm

re: #1230 LindaMarie

Here's back atcha! ;)

1240 Mel Lono  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:12:59pm

re: #1215 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Kashmir Thanks, i needed a swan song. Nite all. I, America.

1241 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:19:51pm

re: #1234 Pvt Bin Jammin

Same to you and yours! Ahhh, California navel oranges are the only ones I use...and you have them growing around you! I am sooo glad that you remembered.

I am too lazy to cook mine. Yipes! I just remembered the pumpkin pie and apple cake I am going to make. I had better put them on the list, and just hope I can read my own writing.

I saw the Ocean Spray cranberry bogs a few times when I was a kid, growing up in the greater Boston area...I wonder what the are is like now. We could have exchanged cranberries and navel oranges virtually! ;)

It is still Wednesday there, and if NY Grandpa doesn't stop trying to pry my fingers off the keyboard, and get me to go to sleep? The turkey won't be the only thing who's goose is cooked!

/Did I really say that?

Going, going, gone!

1242 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Nov 26, 2008 11:37:28pm

re: #1241 NY Nana

I saw the Ocean Spray cranberry bogs a few times when I was a kid, growing up in the greater Boston area...I wonder what the are is like now. We could have exchanged cranberries and navel oranges virtually! ;)

Indeed we could have, LOL. I never knew where cranberries were grown before, learn something new on LGF all the time.

Love ya.

1243 Karridine  Thu, Nov 27, 2008 12:09:18am

re: #1178 BlueCanuck

I like the cast-iron marble porn in yr avatar, Blue

1244 Unboldened  Thu, Nov 27, 2008 6:37:50am

Fresh hatchling saying, "Hello."

Really excited to have finally caught a registration, though my first post was much slower than I would have expected prior to this day.

So unfortunate that a day I can mark with personal satisfaction has to be marred by world tragedy. My hope, prayer, anger, hatred, and disgust go out to those involved, as appropriate.

1245 SilverSeaOtter  Thu, Nov 27, 2008 7:07:15am

I just want to say Happy Thanksgiving to each and everyone. This is one holiday that anyone, in any country, of any religion, can celebrate. This is a day when we can sit down, in most cases with our loved ones gathered around us, and thank whatever deity we believe in for the blessings of another year. But no matter your circumstances, no matter your beliefs, this day is made for reflection and thought about what has gone before and what we are getting into in the future. I hope it will be good for us all.
I personally am opposed to Mr. Obama and his stated policies, but he and the Dems won. Case closed. Now we get to see what they do with the responsibility of running the country. I very much hope that I will be happy with the result. I am ready to say I told you so when he puts his foot in it, but I hope he turns out to be the best president we have ever had.
God bless us all and I hope that we will be able to gather here again next year with tales of daring do and high adventure, or just tales of our lives.
Whatever! Keep your heads up, keep a sharp lookout, and keep your powder and flour dry, and your weapons clean!
God bless us all, and especially the USA.
(Unabashed plug for my country!) Not dumping on yours, just celebrating mine.

1246 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 29, 2008 1:49:41pm

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