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UPDATE 1:05PM EST / 20:05PM IL: Once again, there is much confusion surrounding the latest report, this time attributed to the Israeli diplomatic sources. It appears up to 15 hostages have been released by terrorists in Mumbai, but not from the Chabad House as fist believed, but from near the Chabad House. Once again, there is no definitive source. There is no explanation accompanying the statement, which is ambiguous at best.

Foreign Ministry officials are reporting however that on Thursday afternoon, a female hostage in the Chabad House phone Israeli consular officials in New Delhi stating she has a gun pointed to her head and the terrorists are demanding the release of prisoners in India.

Near Chabad house? This is confusing

Three terrorists were killed at the Taj Mahal Hotel, but one is still holed up inside.

... hopefully soon to join the others.

If there's hostages, then there must be demands. What are they?

re: #3 traderjoe9

If there's hostages, then there must be demands. What are they?

Free the "Indian Mujahideen" meaning the SIMI leaders and other Jihadis captured over the past year, and other demands for a free Kashmir. etc.

re: #3 traderjoe9

If there's hostages, then there must be demands. What are they?

Submit.

re: #3 traderjoe9

If there's hostages, then there must be demands. What are they?

About the only "demand" that seems to have been made is "bring us more hostages to kill!"

still no word on the intent of the attacks?

re: #3 traderjoe9

Release of their fellow terrorists

Additional news to be found here.

From Israellycool monitoring twitter:

8:27PM: According to this Indian Twitterer:

more hostages coming out of Nariman house. they look unharmed. thank god

re: #1 Thanos

Fog of war. I'm glad that the Indians seem to have taken some prisoners of their own. I trust they will be diligent in their intelligence-gathering.

re: #7 zach (the jew) tobias

still no word on the intent of the attacks?

To kill Americans and British.

re: #7 zach (the jew) tobias

still no word on the intent of the attacks?

They call themselves Mujihadin. That they see themselves as such is declaration enough of their intent.

But if this is a Pakistani Islamic Group, then whats their reasoning for targeting exclusively UK and US citizens and Jews?

Pakistan back to its old ways. Trying to destroy the Indian economy because it is seriously eclipsing that of Palistan, proving once again that Islam is the cause of economic stagnation, if not actual regression.

re: #14 traderjoe9

But if this is a Pakistani Islamic Group, then whats their reasoning for targeting exclusively UK and US citizens and Jews?

Too lazy to paddle to those countries?

re: #3 traderjoe9

It will be interesting to learn exactly what they hoped to accomplish but it's really just attempt to create chaos. They shut down Mumbai for almost two days and that's huge. It would be like shutting down New York.

I'm gonna bite my tongue on this...

re: #14 traderjoe9

But if this is a Pakistani Islamic Group, then whats their reasoning for targeting exclusively UK and US citizens and Jews?

That's just good old fashioned Muslim hatred.

Indian TV is reporting 125 dead.

They claim the Taj has been "cleared" by the army, and 6 hostages have been rescued.

It sounds like the attacks hit a number of targets in Mumbai, including the Taj, a railstation, and some random shootings.

On Indian TV they have a crawler at the bottom of the screen where people can "post". People here are REALLY angry and are demanding action.

(I happen to be in India at the moment, but far away from Mumbai. The only thing I have really been worrying about today is the water covered roads from the heavy rains.)

re: #14 traderjoe9

Strategic expert Uday Bhaskar said the attacks could inflame tensions between Hindus and Muslims. "The fact that they were trying to segregate British and American passport holders definitely suggests Islamist fervour," he said.

re: #14 traderjoe9

But if this is a Pakistani Islamic Group, then whats their reasoning for targeting exclusively UK and US citizens and Jews?

Pakistan Gov'ts official ties with the west. Don't forget, that would be a Pakistani OPPOSITION Islamic Group

The Muslims have been slaughtering Hindus and other Indians for centuries.

But the MSM pinheads (Larry King, Chopra, Amanpour) are blaming this latest attack on the West.

Chopra says the war on terror is an oxymoron.

re: #6 SteveC

About the only "demand" that seems to have been made is "bring us more hostages to kill!"

Brilliant!

I think people are getting real tired of this hostage thing. It's gonna get passe', like streaking in the 1970s. The novelty will wear off.

And, of course, it doesn't much matter what their name is. It is their ideology which matters.

It's called Jihad, and it comes from the Koran.

re: #19 Killgore Trout

That's just good old fashioned Muslim hatred.

They will not be satisfied until every single non-muslim converts or dies...but, even then, I would guess they'd find something else to hate

re: #26 Desert Dog

They will not be satisfied until every single non-muslim converts or dies...but, even then, I would guess they'd find something else to hate

Other Muslims that aren't of the "same" ideology... i.e, Sunnis vs Shias ,,,

#18 Macker,
Go ahead and say it.

I want to hear.

re: #23 Cato the Elder

Chopra says the war on terror is an oxymoron.

OT-

Rosies' show a flop. Lowest ratings of the night.

Another reason to be thankful today.

I confess I did check twitter earlier today (gah!), and this report in the TIMESonline edition today says that using twitter was not welcomed by the Indian police.

re: #26 Desert Dog

If there's nobody else to kill they just kill each other. Sunni and Shia love to kill each other.

re: #23 Cato the Elder

The Muslims have been slaughtering Hindus and other Indians for centuries.

But the MSM pinheads (Larry King, Chopra, Amanpour) are blaming this latest attack on the West.

Chopra says the war on terror is an oxymoron.

And I saw him on CNN last night. He's a fucking earth-hugger pop-doc. What the hell makes him an expert on international affairs?

Mumbai attackers may be Pakistani nationals

"There are indications that the perpetrators of the crime, who arrived in Mumbai by boats, are Pakistani nationals," authoritative sources said.

The indications are based on information gathered from captured terrorists, the sources said.

This goes a long way in explaining why the Indian government didn't have any Intel on this. Planing and staging area in another country.

re: #30 x-wing

OT-

Rosies' show a flop. Lowest ratings of the night.

Another reason to be thankful today.

Hooray!

#23 Cato the Elder

Is what you are saying literally true? Have Larry King, Deepak Chopra, and Chrisiane Amanpour really blamed this on the West?

How, for God's sake.

One of the lessons that ought to come out of this is that Islamic Jihadism HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISRAEL.

re: #25 Pastorius

And, of course, it doesn't much matter what their name is. It is their ideology which matters.

It's called Jihad, and it comes from the Koran.

Yeah, there's a lot of "peaceful inner struggling" going on in Mombai.

Yesterday, Hugh Hewitt was taking calls from Indian-Americans, and the prevailing sentiment among them was that Pakistan was behind this, this has been going on since the Partition, and the only way to stop it is to utterly destroy Pakistan. Additionally, the Indian people love America, but do not understand why we continue to support Pakistan.

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

And I saw him on CNN last night. He's a fucking earth-hugger pop-doc. What the hell makes him an expert on international affairs?

his last name

re: #32 Killgore Trout

Allah must be pleased to see his minions doing his bidding...

"Just following the good book", eh Achmed?

Certainly, they hate their own children (aka suicide bombers) and women. And children who aren't even women yet.
UN Deplores Stoning Death of 13-Year-Old Rape Victim in Somalia
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

re: #26 Desert Dog

re: #39 sattv4u2

his last name

Big whoop. My last name is Newton, doesn't make me an expert of physics.

re: #34 Bubblehead II

Mumbai attackers may be Pakistani nationals

"There are indications that the perpetrators of the crime, who arrived in Mumbai by boats, are Pakistani nationals," authoritative sources said.

The indications are based on information gathered from captured terrorists, the sources said.

This goes a long way in explaining why the Indian government didn't have any Intel on this. Planing and staging area in another country.

And, as always, there were early warnings.

Pakistan condemns Mumbai attacks

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #28 Pastorius

#18 Macker,
Go ahead and say it.

I want to hear.

35-3 Titans...2:46 left in the first half!

re: #40 Desert Dog

I always find it surprising that people think they are doing what their "god" tells them. It's amazing that humans are capable of this stuff.

re: #42 Walter L. Newton

Big whoop. My last name is Newton, doesn't make me an expert of physics.

Your Fig cookies are great, btw. Thank you for bring them to the world...do yo get royalities?

re: #36 Pastorius

#23 Cato the Elder

Is what you are saying literally true? Have Larry King, Deepak Chopra, and Chrisiane Amanpour really blamed this on the West?

How, for God's sake.

One of the lessons that ought to come out of this is that Islamic Jihadism HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISRAEL.

...well...i wouldnt say it has NOTHING to do with Israel, any more than I would say it has nothing to do with the UK or the US...but the UK and the US are almost an aside.

re: #44 Pastorius

Yeah, they're shocked, shocked I tell ya!

re: #46 Killgore Trout

Lot's of people killed in "his" name over the years...but, people don't even need a divine reason to slaughter each other...any reason will do

re: #42 Walter L. Newton

Big whoop. My last name is Newton, doesn't make me an expert of physics.

If you worked for NBC/ CBS/ ABC/ CNN they would think you are

It is time for the US and India to team up on a joint operation called Operation Smash Pakistan.

re: #50 Desert Dog

Human's ability to convince themselves that they are doing good is limitless.

re: #45 Macker

35-3 Titans...2:46 left in the first half!

Any chance they could suit up two other teams for the second half. This has not been a football game at all.

re: #43 yma o hyd

Saw that, scary thing is, it could just as easily be done here in the States.

re: #26 Desert Dog

They will not be satisfied until every single non-muslim converts or dies...

hmmm,...sounds familiar

#38 Victrola,

I heard an Indian man pleading with Michael Medved yesterday to please explain why it is that we Americans call Pakistan an "ally".

That's a really good question.

If Barak Obama is speaking the truth in his condemnation of Pakistan, then he might be a better President than we think.

That being said, I realize our relationship with Pakistan is built on practical reality. We can't fight with everyone all at once, and we do not want war with a nuclear-armed state, especially when they are willing to play ball with us to some extent.

That being said, Pakistan is a very dangerous country, and they are probably more dangerous to the world at large than Iran is at this time.

re: #55 Bubblehead II

Saw that, scary thing is, it could just as easily be done here in the States.

Except that there would be significant return fire in concealed carry (most) states.

re: #38 Victrola

Yesterday, Hugh Hewitt was taking calls from Indian-Americans, and the prevailing sentiment among them was that Pakistan was behind this, this has been going on since the Partition, and the only way to stop it is to utterly destroy Pakistan. Additionally, the Indian people love America, but do not understand why we continue to support Pakistan.

nukes & a certain passageway to Derkastan?

The “Deccan Mujahideen” group claimed responsibility, but no one has ever heard of them before. This is probably a throwaway name for one of the Pakistani Islamist groups, such as Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Considering that the terrorists appear to be barely more than children (most of them don't look over 15), the perps themselves appear to be "throwaways". Jihadi cannon fodder, in other words.

#48 wishing

What could an attack on India have to do with Israel?

Hmm? Hmm?

Waiting to hear that answer.

re: #54 x-wing

Any chance they could suit up two other teams for the second half. This has not been a football game at all.

I grew up watching Lions games...and I have to say that this team NEEDS to continue losing. Otherwise, the Ford family will have no incentive to do so. Getting rid of Matt Millen was a start.

re: #58 Gordon Marock

Except that there would be significant return fire in concealed carry (most) states.

Agree Gordon...our armed citizenry would definitely put a crimp in their style if this was tried in the US.

re: #55 Bubblehead II

Saw that, scary thing is, it could just as easily be done here in the States.

Exactly.
Here's some more news, just in ...

So if they murder Jews, we have to stop calling them "terrorists", right?

(Cynical? Moi?)

re: #57 Pastorius

#38 Victrola,

I heard an Indian man pleading with Michael Medved yesterday to please explain why it is that we Americans call Pakistan an "ally".

That's a really good question.

An ally of convenience. Like Stalin in WW2.

re: #61 Pastorius

#48 wishing

What could an attack on India have to do with Israel?

Hmm? Hmm?

Waiting to hear that answer.

A Jew in India is a Jew: a Jew in Israel is a Jew.

re: #61 Pastorius

#48 wishing

What could an attack on India have to do with Israel?

Hmm? Hmm?

Waiting to hear that answer.

Seeing that they both begin with an "I", and seeing that the state of India has been there longer than the state of Isreal, there's only room for one big "I" country!

//moonbattery

re: #57 Pastorius

Nukes or no nukes, Pakistan is going to have to be dealt with and diplomacy is not going to cut it. The sooner the powers that be realize this, the better off we all shall be.

Happy Thanksgiving from the RoP...
Afghan police: 4 dead in blast near US Embassy

A suicide car bomber targeting a convoy of foreign troops exploded about 200 yards (meters) outside the U.S. Embassy in Kabul on Thursday, killing at least four Afghan bystanders as people entered the compound for a Thanksgiving Day race.

At least 18 others were wounded in the morning attack, said Abdullah Fahim, a health ministry spokesman. Police officer Abdul Manan said the explosion was set off by a suicide bomber in a Toyota Corolla.

#66 Spiny Norman,

Si, esta.

re: #61 Pastorius

[Link: www.americanprogress.org...]

(also some similarities between the birth of free India and the stone-age Muslim-Pakistan and free Israel and the Palestinian Arabs)

re: #14 traderjoe9

But if this is a Pakistani Islamic Group, then whats their reasoning for targeting exclusively UK and US citizens and Jews?

Because these are Pakistani groups that have direct and proclaimed alliance with Al Qaeda, that happened Sept. 2007

Well I have officially started drinking in anticipation of spending Thanksgiving with my liberal moonbat family. And one other benefit, the Lions actually like a real football team drunk...nah...I'm not that drunk yet. Sorry Detroit!

re: #22 sattv4u2

Pakistan Gov'ts official ties with the west. Don't forget, that would be a Pakistani OPPOSITION Islamic Group

like the ISI?

re: #62 Macker

I grew up watching Lions games...and I have to say that this team NEEDS to continue losing. Otherwise, the Ford family will have no incentive to do so. Getting rid of Matt Millen was a start.

Matt Millen. Great, no make that awesome player. Management..not so much.
I haven't really watched a Lions game since Barry left. Wow, I'm getting old.

Pakistan condemns Mumbai attacks

Pakistan warned India against accusing of it links to the Mumbai terror attacks Thursday, saying doing so would "destroy all the goodwill" between the two nuclear-armed rivals.
...
Pakistan Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar condemned the attack, but said "we should not be blamed like in the past,"

"This will destroy all the goodwill we created together after years of bitterness," he told The Associated Press. "I will say in very categoric terms that Pakistan is not involved in these gory incidents."

re: #61 Pastorius

#48 wishing

What could an attack on India have to do with Israel?

Hmm? Hmm?

Waiting to hear that answer.

On twitter earlier today there was one troll who insisted that this was a 'false-flag' operation by - you guessed it! - Mossad.
He insisted that the hostages in the Jewish Centre were actually terrorists who had fled there, and why would Muslim terrorists flee into an'Israeli compound'.

The insanity of some people has to beseen to be believed.

(The other twitters were having none of this, btw.)

re: #23 Cato the Elder

The Muslims have been slaughtering Hindus and other Indians for centuries.

But the MSM pinheads (Larry King, Chopra, Amanpour) are blaming this latest attack on the West.

Chopra says the war on terror is an oxymoron.

But of course it's our fault! What isn't?

OT, but I thought (like me) some might be interested in this for the holidays - Michael Medved is promoting the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews , a program that provides meals and medication for Jewish children, elderly, terror victims and Holocaust suvivors living abroad. Seems very cool, to me - medication for a year for one is only $56, and there are larger gifts, too.

I don't intend to solicit, just inform - if this is against guidelines in some way (I don't see anything like that, but I could miss it if it's buried on the site), I apologize in advance and expect this will be pulled.

re: #76 x-wing

Matt Millen. Great, no make that awesome player. Management..not so much.
I haven't really watched a Lions game since Barry left. Wow, I'm getting old.

I haven't really watched since George Plimpton left? Am I dating myself?

Look, India has been targeted by the Islamists for years - well before Bush became President and declared a war on terror (and those are just the major attacks - and doesn't count the three wars between Pakistan and India and the ongoing skirmishes over Jammu-Kashmir). To claim that this is somehow connected to the GWOT is asinine. It shows a stunning lack of historical knowledge or even rational thought. It does show that BDS is alive and well as is appeasement.

re: #80 Nevergiveup

I haven't really watched since George Plimpton left? Am I dating myself?

Is this your 1st date? Will there be sex?

re: #58 Gordon Marock

True, IF they were to attempt something like this they would meet a strong resistance from a heavily armed society. But, if they were infiltrating too carry out attacks on the infrastructure then they would most likely go undetected until things started going boom.

re: #80 Nevergiveup

I haven't really watched since George Plimpton left? Am I dating myself?

LOL.

re: #82 sattv4u2

Is this your 1st date? Will there be sex?

That depends is there Lobster on the menu?

Wonder if the Indians allow waterboarding?

re: #77 Killgore Trout

What would you expect the Pakistanis to say, knowing full well that if India believed Pakistan's government were behind the attacks it could spell the start of a major conflict. It's in their interest to either show that it was some Islamist group operating inside India or operating in Pakistan that went undetected by Pakistan or other intel services but that the Pakistanis were going to be cracking down in a hard way.

I suspect that with the focus being on HuJI, it may mean closer coordination between Pakistan and India and a bigger crackdown on Islamists, the opposite of what the Islamists were hoping for.

#67 Wishing
Oh, I see how you're thinking.

They went after Americans and Brits, but I wouldn't think to call this an attack on America, or on Americans in general.

I see this as an attack on India.

Muslims hate all sorts of people all over the world, and little of their hatred has to do with Jews or Israel. That's my point.

re: #81 lawhawk

Look, India has been targeted by the Islamists for years - well before Bush became President and declared a war on terror (and those are just the major attacks - and doesn't count the three wars between Pakistan and India and the ongoing skirmishes over Jammu-Kashmir). To claim that this is somehow connected to the GWOT is asinine. It shows a stunning lack of historical knowledge or even rational thought. It does show that BDS is alive and well as is appeasement.

It also shows that media types think that what little bit they have learned in school about history is quite sufficient, thank you very much, and that they see no need to inform themselves (or even study!) any further.

They probably have no idea about how India and Pakistan came into being in 1947 ...

re: #73 Thanos

Because these are Pakistani groups that have direct and proclaimed alliance with Al Qaeda, that happened Sept. 2007

Someone on TV (I can't remember who, or where - Fox News maybe) suggested these attacks may be in retaliation for cross-border raids into North Waziristan by the US (and British?) military against AQ hideouts, with India just being the place AQ could get to.

re: #86 leboaz

Wonder if the Indians allow waterboarding?

I somehow doubt that the Indians, be it the people in the streets or the police and armed forces, are particularly interested in what AI and other 'human right' proponents have to say on how to run their investigations or how to treat the caught terrorists ...

re: #86 leboaz

Wonder if the Indians allow waterboarding?

The probably just start with waterboarding.

;^)

re: #91 yma o hyd
Good!

re: #86 leboaz

Wonder if the Indians allow waterboarding?

Yes ,, but with a difference. They use eithre JUST the water (glug glug ) or JUST the board (WHACK)

Going upstairs.

The Indians will retaliate massively. Remember the Golden Temple and the Sikh separtists? The Indians do not give a rip about world opinion.

re: #95 Bubblehead II

Going upstairs.

Is that where the bar is?

;^)

re: #90 Spiny Norman

Someone on TV (I can't remember who, or where - Fox News maybe) suggested these attacks may be in retaliation for cross-border raids into North Waziristan by the US (and British?) military against AQ hideouts, with India just being the place AQ could get to.

Useless rubbish, of the same caliber as saying the 9/11 attacks were a response to the war in Iraq ...

This was well planned, the terrorists were well drilled, the Indian Government had early warnings in the summer, and if this was 'just' against Brits and Americans, then why would they also attack a Jewish centre, a local airport, and the railway station?

re: #87 lawhawk

I suspect that with the focus being on HuJI, it may mean closer coordination between Pakistan and India and a bigger crackdown on Islamists, the opposite of what the Islamists were hoping for.

That would be nice but I don't think Pakistan has the will to crack down. I'm hoping that pressure from India, Afghanistan and the US will force them to change but I just don't see them controlling their terrorism anytime soon.

re: #99 Killgore Trout

That would be nice but I don't think Pakistan has the will to crack down. I'm hoping that pressure from India, Afghanistan and the US will force them to change but I just don't see them controlling their terrorism anytime soon.

Agree.
They've not been able to control their terrorists in the past, they are incapable of doing it now, and they seem to lack the will of even trying it.

re: #15 pat

Pakistan back to its old ways. Trying to destroy the Indian economy because it is seriously eclipsing that of Palistan, proving once again that Islam is the cause of economic stagnation, if not actual regression.

"There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet."

"There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is not his profit."

"There is no evil but Satan, and Pakistan is an offspring."

Where is the President-Elect when the world needs help?

re: #100 yma o hyd
Pakistan is a mess. They are muslim and if the gov't cracks down on terrorists, the terrorists will appeal to the masses and then all hell breaks loose. As usual.

re: #65 Occasional Reader

So if they murder Jews, we have to stop calling them "terrorists", right?

(Cynical? Moi?)

Have to say that makes me sad.

re: #102 AuntAcid
Eating his waffles.

re: #102 AuntAcid

Where is the President-Elect when the world needs help?

Hopefully, watching and LEARNING

re: #96 pingjockey

The Indians will retaliate massively. Remember the Golden Temple and the Sikh separtists? The Indians do not give a rip about world opinion.

The "world" does not give a shit about "world opinion". The fricken' French and Belgians complained about the use of waterboarding on 3 terrorists by the CIA. These are the same two countries which aided & abetted the Rwanda genocide. And don't talk to me about the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese or any Arab country. World opinion has done nothing for Darfur.

World opinion is a cruel joke.

re: #102 AuntAcid

At the gym.

Thanks for God, country and family are always in order. Lizard ON

How long before Muslims start saying they are being harrassed and are the REAL victims of this digusting attack?
3..2..1...

My guess is that the “the Deccan Mujahideen” is one of those Saturday-night special terrorist groups, good for one or two operations only before it too fades into the mists of deniability. Now maybe if Israel just withdrew from Gaza, the West Bank or simply vanished from the face of the earth, none of this would happen. Or maybe if the West apologized for something, anything, name it … then none of this would happen. Try anything, because the alternative is to resist. And that will never do.

If I were running India, I'd execute all Islamic terrorists held in prison, saying "We want to make sure that no more hostages are taken to get these scumbags released."
And I'd make comments about annexing Kashmir should attacks continue.

How definite is that the hostages in Chabad House (Indian TV calls it "Tchabad") are free? The Debka site makes no mention of it yet. Let's hope.
Anyone have a link to a definitive word?

BTW, the TV quotes Indians who were there as saying that the terrorists spoke an "unknown" language, and others that they sometimes spoke Hindi, but with a Punjabi accent. That points to Kashmir and Pakistan.

For something this big, elements of the Pakistani govt (ISI?) have to be involved, seems like. We have a saying in Spanish: "Tira la piedra y esconde la mano."

CNN has reported that a special Israeli rescue team is on its way...

re: #113 miguelj

A General (speaking to Indian television) -- General Hooda -- stated that the terrorists inside the hotels were communicating with each other in Punjabi.

There are also reports that the terrorists were inside the hotels (possibly) months in advance...they operated "advanced control centers"...in other words, the terrorists in the hotel rooms may have been coordinating the terrorists outside and directing them...

re: #113 miguelj

Unfortunately, not at all. Apparently some people who were hiding in nearby buildings were taken out, not the hostages in Beit Chabad/Naiman House.

re: #116 2senseplain

Two new blast heard at Nariman House. No information forthcoming from Police, NSG or Israeli Consulate official on the ground.

[Link: www.ndtv.com...]

The “Deccan Mujahideen” group claimed responsibility, but no one has ever heard of them before. This is probably a throwaway name for one of the Pakistani Islamist groups, such as Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Imagine that--a terrorist sock puppet.

re: #34 Bubblehead II

Mumbai attackers may be Pakistani nationals

"There are indications that the perpetrators of the crime, who arrived in Mumbai by boats, are Pakistani nationals," authoritative sources said.

The indications are based on information gathered from captured terrorists, the sources said.

This goes a long way in explaining why the Indian government didn't have any Intel on this. Planing and staging area in another country.

That's good news. It means Muslims in India, even Islamists, had no clue this was going on. It means (God willing) no pogroms against non-Islamist, innocent Muslim civilians.

re: #113 miguelj

BTW, the TV quotes Indians who were there as saying that the terrorists spoke an "unknown" language, and others that they sometimes spoke Hindi, but with a Punjabi accent. That points to Kashmir and Pakistan.

For something this big, elements of the Pakistani govt (ISI?) have to be involved, seems like. We have a saying in Spanish: "Tira la piedra y esconde la mano."

[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

The Pakistan Connection
Evidence is still sketchy, but tensions are already rising between India and its nuclear-armed neighbor.

Ron Moreau and Sudip Mazumdar
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
Nov 27, 2008 %P% Updated: 2:25 p.m. ET Nov 27, 2008
Around 8:30 p.m. on Wednesday, a band of 10 young armed militants zoomed up to a fishermen's colony in Colaba, on the Mumbai waterfront, in inflatable Zodiac speedboats. Locals confronted them: unlike the dark-skinned Mumbai fishermen, who speak only Marathi, the regional dialect, the intruders were young, tall and fair-skinned and spoke Urdu with a northern accent. According to local press, the gunmen reportedly told them to mind their business, then gave a raised-thumb gesture, and splitting into small groups, walked off into two different directions. The fishermen reported the suspicious men to a police post nearby, but the tip-off failed to rouse the cops to action.

Indian security has intercepted PUNJIBI of the kind spoken in Pakistan. at least according to NDTV

re: #117 little blessing

Two new blast heard at Nariman House. No information forthcoming from Police, NSG or Israeli Consulate official on the ground.

[Link: www.ndtv.com...]

Great link! 7 hostages rescued from Nariman House. Two 'deafening blasts' heard, building looks allright from outside, maybe activity going on inside, members Israeli consulate present on site. Seems like the terrorists are professionally and discretely been taken off.

Pakistan thought they were all set to have a friend in the White House in 2 months. Obama's long lost mystery roommate at Columbia U is part of a very powerful, ruling class family, right?

Maybe they thought they could push their luck. I hope to hell GW Bush tells our guys in Afghanistan to go all out, at least until Jan 19.

We've got Predators and Reapers over there that could clean out a whole lot of Paki terrorist dens if the commander in chief will give them the green light.

re: #14 traderjoe9

Because those are the ones who stand in the Jihadists way, globally.

The State Department set up a call center for Americans concerned about family members who may be in Mumbai. The number is [no phone numbers allowed].

I remember a recent AQ video - it was either Fat Adam or Bumpy, and they were promising terrorist attacks on Jewish, British and US targets abroad.

Any know the date?

I saw on CNN a comment today:

"India and Pakistan have to work to find common ground"

Hello? It's not India vs. Pakistan. It's Islamic terrorists vs. unarmed innocent people.

One thing is standing out in all this, although it may not be obvious to people from outside the British Commonwealth: the effect on India's national sport, cricket. Tours to Pakistan have routinely been cancelled in the past thanks to Islamist terrorism, and India and Pakistan went through a long patch where they didn't play any tests against each other.

However, to my knowledge, terror attacks in India proper have never resulted in the cancellation of a single cricket match. By contrast, these attacks have scuppered the current England tour, the Champions league and the ICL 20/20 tournament. That's three MAJOR tournaments, at the top of the season. It's like has never been seen before.

This may sound trivial and weird, but in many ways cricket is India's national religion, not Hinduism. Traditionally it has always brought the country together; this sort of disruption is genuinely something new.

re: #127 Shanimal1918

I saw on CNN a comment today:

"India and Pakistan have to work to find common ground"

Hello? It's not India vs. Pakistan. It's Islamic terrorists vs. unarmed innocent people.

The left likes to restate what happened to fit some sort of bizarre view of reality.

re: #14 traderjoe9

But if this is a Pakistani Islamic Group, then whats their reasoning for targeting exclusively UK and US citizens and Jews?

To try to damage the Indian economy by scaring away foreign business and investment.

re: #126 uptight

I remember a recent AQ video - it was either Fat Adam or Bumpy, and they were promising terrorist attacks on Jewish, British and US targets abroad.

Any know the date?

"Fat Adam or Bumpy" LOL!

re: #122 realburke

Great link! 7 hostages rescued from Nariman House. Two 'deafening blasts' heard, building looks allright from outside, maybe activity going on inside, members Israeli consulate present on site. Seems like the terrorists are professionally and discretely been taken off.

Nice.

"Terminated their mission, with extreme prejudice" is also good.

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