Let the finger pointing begin

"There is no doubt, we know, that the targets the terrorists singled out were Jewish, Israeli targets and targets identified with the West, Americans and Britons," Livni said.

Our MSM will cut that off at "Americans and British..."

Prayers for the dead and wishes of comfort and solace for their families.

And they spent all that time trying to get in without hurting anyone.

bbl

I guess this shouldn't be a surprise......
Mumbai attack: British men 'among the terrorists'

Did anyone hear what that POS harry smith said on the cbs morning show?

Reminds me of katie saying "thankfully" saddam got away.

Sick bastards.

I am sure releasing the Gitmo Gang will stop attacks like this
/

re: #8 rightside

Did anyone hear what that POS harry smith said on the cbs morning show?

No. Can you summarize for us?

Cannot wait to hear Obama talk about Gitmo now!

Hundred dollars says it stays right where it is due to "new developments."

I'm not going to be able to watch TV for the next 4 years. At least.

There isn't really any hostage situation. The people the media call hostages are intended by the terrorists as the bait with which they draw security forces into kill zones. The terrorists don't intend ever to release their captives.

The only answer is a coordinated attack with flashbang grenades, any sort of gas that the hostages might recover from, futuristic recon robots if available, and raw courage.

re: #11 Last Mohican

Surely.

HARRY SMITH: When they, as they were perpetrating their attacks in the beginning, they were clearly, they said, were looking for British citizens, were looking for American citizens. Sadly, so many of the people were killed were Indians.

This is terrible, horrible. What can one say? Am I jaded and cynical to believe that the apologists will come out from under their rocks to blame the West, blame Christianity, blame the Jews and Israel for this while evading the fact that Islamic terrorists did this in the name of their 'god'?

re: #12 right Brain

Cannot wait to hear Obama talk about Gitmo now!

Hundred dollars says it stays right where it is due to "new developments."

I can. I would like it very much if he were not to say anything about anything. That would make my day.

re: #3 Ben Hur

Our MSM will cut that off at "Americans and British..."

...and the bad guys? Militants...with no reference to a particular religious persuasion from the MSM hacks.

re: #17 Gang of One

This is terrible, horrible. What can one say? Am I jaded and cynical to believe that the apologists will come out from under their rocks to blame the West, blame Christianity, blame the Jews and Israel for this while evading the fact that Islamic terrorists did this in the name of their 'god'?

They already have.

Rest in Peace.

re: #14 NYCHardhat

I've not watched for about 3 years now. Nothing worth watching IMO.

re: #19 Ron Shaw

...and the bad guys? Militants...with no reference to a particular religious persuasion from the MSM hacks.

No! They are "Reformers fighting for change in a hateful society"!

/

re: #7 Killgore Trout

Thats exactly like that white kid in the marines who was tortured and killed along with his black wife. The newspaper didn't bother to mention the 4 guys ho killed them were all black. These british men were pakistanis. Good god, this is going to be a fucked up period in history.

re: #16 rightside

Surely.

HARRY SMITH: When they, as they were perpetrating their attacks in the beginning, they were clearly, they said, were looking for British citizens, were looking for American citizens. Sadly, so many of the people were killed were Indians.

IOW, this scumbag was happy that Americans and Brits were killed?

Anyone know the history of the American Jewish population here in America during WWII?

One aspect that keeps gnawing at my brain is the fact that the reports of atrocities from Europe were met with skepticism at the worst, and activism at its best.

Two people stand out for me in that time frame- Wise and Berger.

Wise is alive and well- and Hollywood is his legacy.

If you read "A Race Against Death" you can see that there were efforts by Berger and many others, to publicize the threat to Jews in Europe.

"we will never die" was one of those productions, and along with ads in major newspapers, they were meant to bring a sense of urgency and public outcry to the growing machine of death in Europe.

What happened instead was many saw the production and the ads as hyperbole at worst, and as fiction at best. The Jewish organizations, for whatever reason, did not push for more help on immigration, and did not agitate against the closing of immigration to Jews fleeing slaughter. FDR, the foundation of Jewish support for a party that increasingly demonizes them, was deaf, blind and mute on these issues, even when his wife was at the front of the line calling for help for Jews in Europe, he did nothing until it was already too late.

Basically, American Jews were either unwilling or unable to understand and act on the reality of the Shoah. Secure in their countries and in their lives, they could not, would not fathom the barbarity, much like their European counterparts, but with the same deadly consequences- firm in their belief that such stories were false, or overblown.

The upshot? I think I know where my concentration camp nightmares are coming from.

Hollywood and mass media are content to make films that demonize the U.S. for fighting evil, , and glorify the causes of those who target Jews, Americans, and others, safe in the "knowledge" that they are safe. With the "absolution" (as a Jew, I am not sure if I used this word correctly. . .) of the one's election, they, those who write the narratives, and report the news are selling a whole new brand of denial. . .moral relativism is now the rage.

When people question their integrity or their bias, Hollywood is quick to point out how many of "them" are making the films. . .did anyone see Munich? And the cycle continues. We are being told constantly that OTHER factors are to blame, not evil or irrational pathological hate, and worse yet, a new president that also downplays and worse, the real threat of evil. . .they just need a good talking to. . .and they will stop machine gunning women and children to death. . .yeah right.

If you do not know much about Chabad, know this, no matter what their internal squabbles, they are, down to the last, a decent sort of people, and I have had my life touched by them on more than one occasion. Chabad House gave me a place to live, and helped me get back on my feet, along with my family, and I give to them without fail.

They are the personification of Chesid. . .and my heart aches

re: #25 Gang of One

IOW, this scumbag was happy that Americans and Brits were killed?

Evidently, yes.

re: #16 rightside

HARRY SMITH: When they, as they were perpetrating their attacks in the beginning, they were clearly, they said, were looking for British citizens, were looking for American citizens. Sadly, so many of the people were killed were Indians.

Oh good lord. I wish I could say I was still surprised by things like this.

Cheer up Harry, maybe next time more American and Britons will be killed.

re: #20 gclaghorn

They already have.

Some things just won't change, right Mr. President-elect?

/*spit*

re: #16 rightside

Surely.

HARRY SMITH: When they, as they were perpetrating their attacks in the beginning, they were clearly, they said, were looking for British citizens, were looking for American citizens. Sadly, so many of the people were killed were Indians.

Wow!

re: #25 Gang of One

Yes, of course.

Eight hostages at Chabad House were rescued. That is some good news.

re: #28 Last Mohican

Who is Harry Smith?

re: #29 Gang of One

Some things just won't change, right Mr. President-elect?

/*spit*

The more Obama changes, the more he stays the same.

re: #24 NYCHardhat

Thats exactly like that white kid in the marines who was tortured and killed along with his black wife. The newspaper didn't bother to mention the 4 guys ho killed them were all black. These british men were pakistanis. Good god, this is going to be a fucked up period in history.

What period in history has not been fucked up?

/I know. I am in mood today ...

re: #25 Gang of One

IOW, this scumbag was happy that Americans and Brits were killed?

See- it is all good if it is the RIGHT sort of person being butchered. . .as a Jew, I have felt this way for awhile- remember the Achillie Lauro?

They killed a wheelchair bound man. . .horrible. . .oh wait. . .he was a Jew. . .oh, well then. . .

BASTARDS.

I had a bad feeling about this. Why wouldn't they kill Jews if they had half a chance?

ulʼassaqa yathon l'chayyey ʻal'ma

re: #16 rightside

Surely.

HARRY SMITH: When they, as they were perpetrating their attacks in the beginning, they were clearly, they said, were looking for British citizens, were looking for American citizens. Sadly, so many of the people were killed were Indians.

HARRY SMITH: What a piece of fecal excrement.

re: #17 Gang of One

This is terrible, horrible. What can one say? Am I jaded and cynical to believe that the apologists will come out from under their rocks to blame the West, blame Christianity, blame the Jews and Israel for this while evading the fact that Islamic terrorists did this in the name of their 'god'?

No, you're not jaded. I have been reading "users comments" on various different online news sources, and a lot of people are blaming the west.

I'm waiting for a "stampede at Walmart" and "terrorist are a product of Walmart mentality" article to appear.

It took them 40 hours to rescue 0/5 hostages
Somebodies situational analysis needs to be completely overhauled.
If the Jews were dead all along, the NSG didn't need to be so cautious nor to take such risks with their people.
If the rabbi and his household weren't dead from the beginning, the NSG needs to determine when they died, and how the NSG could have determined that when it happened.
Or just make sure the terrorists die badly at a minimum risk to the NSG troops. (that is a political decision).

re: #32 Kenneth

Eight hostages at Chabad House were rescued. That is some good news.

Were any of them Jews. . .just wondering

re: #35 Gang of One

What period in history has not been fucked up?

/I know. I am in mood today ...

Its cool. You're right though. It will only get worse.

re: #12 right Brain

Cannot wait to hear Obama talk about Gitmo now!

Hundred dollars says it stays right where it is due to "new developments."

Maybe he'll leave Gitmo where it is, but just nuance it a little. For example, he could appoint a special Human Rights Ombudsman to go over there and make sure that everything is cozy and happy for the detainees.

I'm sure the entire world would rise up and applaud together, happy that all of the evils of the Bush administration had been erased (even though nothing had changed at all).

re: #40 Jhn1

It took them 40 hours to rescue 0/5 hostages
Somebodies situational analysis needs to be completely overhauled.
If the Jews were dead all along, the NSG didn't need to be so cautious nor to take such risks with their people.
If the rabbi and his household weren't dead from the beginning, the NSG needs to determine when they died, and how the NSG could have determined that when it happened.
Or just make sure the terrorists die badly at a minimum risk to the NSG troops. (that is a political decision).

This is why you can't try to play nice with terrorists. Just storm the place, take them down, and worry about their feelings later.

My thoughts and prayers go to the family of those that died in Nariman house, the Oberoi hotel, and the Taj.

re: #45 marwan's daughter

My thoughts and prayers go to the family of those that died in Nariman house, the Oberoi hotel, and the Taj.

Ditto- It will be a Shabbos like no other tonight.

re: #12 right Brain

Cannot wait to hear Obama talk about Gitmo now!

Hundred dollars says it stays right where it is due to "new developments."

* * * *
Obama's already got his Bay of Pigs incident--Russian Pres. Medvedev visited Cuba on Thanksgiving day yesterday.

Medvedev arrived in Havana Cuba yesterday after visiting Hugo Chavez in Venezuelly.

"...Cuba is expecting some positive CHANGES from Obama, promised during his campaign...."

Medvedev cozies up to Cuba in pursuit of deals
World section, Washington Times of 11/28/08 p. a19

It's amazing that the Indians let any terrorists surrender - where are they going to hold them? I bet these losers beg for imprisonment at Gitmo!

re: #44 gclaghorn

This is why you can't try to play nice with terrorists. Just storm the place, take them down, and worry about their feelings later.

Not trying to second guess- but I am thinking that the hostages were not hostages at all, they were fatalities from the get go, based on the way the attack started- they were trying to take out as many of the Indian soldiers as possible, and die in the process. . .
The Jews at Chabad did not have a chance. . .

150 killed so far, many Indians, one American killed in a cafe was a thirteen year old child. Such brave terrorists. Pakistan needs to let coalition forces into the Tribal Areas, Muslim sensabilities and national pride be damned. Maybe India should go to war if heads aren't provided by Zardari and the ISI.

re: #36 DisturbedEma

See- it is all good if it is the RIGHT sort of person being butchered. . .as a Jew, I have felt this way for awhile- remember the Achillie Lauro?

They killed a wheelchair bound man. . .horrible. . .oh wait. . .he was a Jew. . .oh, well then. . .

BASTARDS.

Emma, they hate us, they will always hate us. Only a few non-Jews understand the Word of that most famous of Jews, and they fearlessly stand up for us and with us. I thank the Creator for them, for they are truly our brothers and sisters, and we are blessed to have them with us.

Jewish Rabbi and wife - now confirmed dead

God bless them and their families at this time

re: #33 NYCHardhat

Who is Harry Smith?

One of the co-hosts on CBS' "The Early Show" He's been on there since 1987, when it was "CBS This Morning."

Everybody, realwest is moving to this thread. Let's all hide, turn out the lights and try to surprise him.

Be vewy vewy quiet.

Al Qaeda fingerprints have been found:

Two British-born Pakistanis were among eight gunmen seized by Indian commandos who stormed buildings to free hostages, Vilasrao Deshmukh, the chief minister of Mumbai, reportedly said.

The Foreign Office earlier said it was investigating reports on NDTV, a local television news channel, that the terrorists - who swarmed luxury hotels and other tourist sites in the city - included "British citizens of Pakistani origin".

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

No, you're not jaded. I have been reading "users comments" on various different online news sources, and a lot of people are blaming the west.

I'm waiting for a "stampede at Walmart" and "terrorist are a product of Walmart mentality" article to appear.

You got that right, Walter. It seems like it's going to get worse before it gets better -- if it ever does ... in my lifetime.

re: #1 buzzsawmonkey
Do not understand the language but the sentiment I do and agree with.
I think anyway.

re: #51 Gang of One

Emma, they hate us, they will always hate us. Only a few non-Jews understand the Word of that most famous of Jews, and they fearlessly stand up for us and with us. I thank the Creator for them, for they are truly our brothers and sisters, and we are blessed to have them with us.

I think more people are getting it though. . .they are starting to see how little importance those in power hold American lives- they have drunk the global Kool aid. . .those in MSM- America is bad, Jews are evil, we all deserve to get ours. . .story of our lives.

I am thankful too- but discouraged to the core

Any news of the ROP dancing in the streets? Wake up Britain...you have a serious problem.

re: #59 jorline

Any news of the ROP dancing in the streets? Wake up Britain...you have a serious problem.

Last I heard all the ROPers were too busy anchoring the news at CNN.

re: #41 DisturbedEma

The rabbi's two year old son was rescued by the Indian cook, I don't know the identities of the others.

re: #40 Jhn1

The whole operation -- just confused and choatic from the get-go...(even now, there's no clear understanding of what's gone on, etc., etc. just a clusterf*k.)

I want dead terrorists.

re: #61 Kenneth

The rabbi's two year old son was rescued by the Indian cook, I don't know the identities of the others.

Amid that carnage, she acted honorably- may her name be blessed, along with her people. . .paraphrase, but my brain is not working well. . .

re: #54 gclaghorn

Everybody, realwest is moving to this thread. Let's all hide, turn out the lights and try to surprise him.

Be vewy vewy quiet.

you funny...heh.

re: #3 Ben Hur

Our MSM will cut that off at "Americans and British..."

Been done already by POS Harry Smith

re: #16 rightside

Surely.

HARRY SMITH: When they, as they were perpetrating their attacks in the beginning, they were clearly, they said, were looking for British citizens, were looking for American citizens. Sadly, so many of the people were killed were Indians.

re: #63 FrogMarch

I want some to suffer sllooollly... At least for 36 hours of hell on earth.... I want intel to get more terrorists! dead.

re: #29 Gang of One

Some things just won't change, right Mr. President-elect?

/*spit*

I thought the world changed Nov. 5th, 2008! Maybe a a new and improved world tour is in order from the head of the Office Of The President Elect...seems some didn't get the whole hope and change memo thingy.

re: #52 kiwiviv

Jewish Rabbi and wife - now confirmed dead

God bless them and their families at this time

Dayan Emes. . .

Kaddish in English

Glorified and sanctified be G-d's great name throughout the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen.

May His great name be blessed forever and to all eternity.

Blessed and praised, glorified and exalted, extolled and honored, adored and lauded be the name of the Holy One, blessed be He, beyond all the blessings and hymns, praises and consolations that are ever spoken in the world; and say, Amen.

May there be abundant peace from heaven, and life, for us
and for all Israel; and say, Amen.

He who creates peace in His celestial heights, may He create peace for us and for all Israel; and say, Amen.

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

I wonder how fucked up the world could possibly and then I see the Harry Smith money quote. The world is VERY fucked up.

re: #48 kiwiviv

It's amazing that the Indians let any terrorists surrender - where are they going to hold them? I bet these losers beg for imprisonment at Gitmo!

They needed some alive for interrogation. Information is the key to these matters.

/I hope I do not want to know how the information is gotten out of them

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

No, you're not jaded. I have been reading "users comments" on various different online news sources, and a lot of people are blaming the west.

I'm waiting for a "stampede at Walmart" and "terrorist are a product of Walmart mentality" article to appear.

Wait no more...

re: #68 Ron Shaw

I thought the world changed Nov. 5th, 2008! Maybe a a new and improved world tour is in order from the head of the Office Of The President Elect...seems some didn't get the whole hope and change memo thingy.

Isn't the world all shiny now? When can I expect my free unicorn to arrive? Let's all ride the changey rainbow to a happy, shiny land of skittles.

re: #69 DisturbedEma

Thank you, Ema.

re: #69 DisturbedEma

Amen
Amen
Amen.

Obama will say this is a "failure of empathy."

re: #63 FrogMarch

I want dead terrorists.

Slowly

re: #8 rightside

Did anyone hear what that POS harry smith said on the cbs morning show?

Reminds me of katie saying "thankfully" saddam got away.

Each and every morning show (alphabet channel) news flunky can kiss my ass. They are all pathetic a-holes.

Katie, Matt, Harry, Diane Sawyer, Charlie Gibson... etc... the leftist idiots who run "the view". They can all FOAD.

So now the UK is a net exporter of terrorists?

I am curious though. With the muslims demanding we stop linking them with terrorism, which their terrorists freely do, will they also demand that their terrorists renounce islam?

The dichotomy is profound. And deadly.

re: #69 DisturbedEma

Amen...Amen...and Amen

re: #73 Arby Dwiar

Wait no more...

Un-frickin-believable. Or maybe not.

/we are in deep shit

IBN reports there is still firing at the Taj.

As I said last night, remember young Indians work diligently for low pay in call centers assisting Americans with all sorts of problems.

Young Indians strive to raise themselves and their country from poverty and ancient hatreds. They have real ambition and energy to grow themselves a bright future.

Let us hope young Indians join us in the fight against those who want to keep India down and under the Caliphate's wicked control.

re: #75 hermit

Thank you, Ema.

I am horrified and overwhelmed. . .and more sure than ever that my sons are fighting a just war.

re: #68 Ron Shaw

Anything that goes wrong from now on for the next four years, will be "Bush's" fault. Anything that goes right, will be nobama's perfect leadership.

Welcome to LGF, btw!

re: #26 DisturbedEma

Just tangentally Ema, I thought I would mention that the people I met in Chabad in Seattle were very good to my sister and I when she, being mad, insisted on visiting them and acting strangely. They were kind and patient and didn't seem too surprised to see a crazy lady.

Your comment is very interesting btw.

re: #73 Arby Dwiar

Wait no more...

Arby, I didn't see any users comments at that link that was equating the Walmart story and the tragedy in India.

Can you please explain why you responded to me with this link?

Millionaire moonbat sel-help-guru blames America

Chopra: What we have seen in Mumbai has been brewing for a long time, and the war on terrorism and the attack on Iraq compounded the situation. What we call "collateral damage" and going after the wrong people actually turns moderates into extremists, and that inflammation then gets organized and appears as this disaster in Bombay. Now the worst thing that could happen is there's a backlash on the Muslims from the fundamental Hindus in India, which then will perpetuate the problem. Inflammation will create more inflammation.

CNN: Let me jump in on that because you're presuming something very important, which is that it's Muslims who have carried out these attacks and, in some cases, with Washington in their sights.

Chopra: Ultimately the message is always toward Washington because it's also the perception that Washington, in their way, directly or indirectly funds both sides of the war on terror. They fund our side, then our petrol dollars going to Saudi Arabia through Pakistan and ultimately these terrorist groups, which are very organized. You know Jonathan, it takes a lot of money to do this. It takes a lot of organization to do this. Where's the money coming from, you know? The money is coming from the vested interests. I'm not talking about conspiracy theories, but what happens is, our policies, our foreign policies, actually perpetuate this problem. Because, you know, 25% of the world's population is Muslim and they're the fastest growing segment of the population of the world. The more we alienate the Muslim population, the more the moderates are likely to become extremists.

Doesn't this idiot give Muslims responsibility for their own actions? Does it not occur to him the rising anti-Muslim sentiment in the world is the direct consequence of 2 problems:

1. Islamic terrorism
2. Denial of terrorism by Muslims

If Muslims around the world would seriously address the 2nd probem, the threat of the 1st problem would be seriously diminished.

Indian authorities are saying that some of the terrorists in Mumbai were British.

So when do we invade England?

re: #74 gclaghorn

Isn't the world all shiny now? When can I expect my free unicorn to arrive? Let's all ride the changey rainbow to a happy, shiny land of skittles.

Channelling Denis Leary...."Hey, hey, hey....pull that bus over to the side of the pretentiousness highway --Everybody off! Alright. I want the shiny people over here--happy people over here.
I'm with the angry, gun-toting, meat-eating f*ckin people!"

re: #59 jorlineJorline my friend it's NOT Britains' problem - it's either a problem for the entire civilized world or it's India's problem.
I simply can't believe and am having a hard time accepting how LONG it took for those Indian "commandos" to get things under control there.
Shoulda sent 'em a battalion of US Rangers and have done with it; those murderous scum we politely call "terrorists" weren't looking to take hostages and make political demands, they just wanted to murder people and they shoulda been dealt with accordingly.

re: #77 harrylook

Obama will say this is a "failure of empathy."

I cannot even respond to that in a civil non bannable from LGF offense kind of way.

A pox on the dear nonleader

Hamakom yenakom domom (G-D avenge their blood)

Positive things to do in memory of those who were murdered:

Jewish women: light Sabbath candles tonight, bake challah.
Jewish men: put on tefillin.
Everyone (Jews and non-Jews): give charity to a worthy cause, light a candle, set aside some time for prayer, meditation and study.

It should be more clear then ever that It is not America and Britain against terrorism but rather it is the entire, civilized world against the cowardly barbarians that kill innocents with serene pleasure. But as long as people liek Harry Smith still feel guilt that somehow Radical Islamic Fundamentalim is America's fault this sort of act will keep happening.

And this massacre has shown that a handful of zealots can cause massive destruction any time and _any_ place.

Some American Muslims are justifying the massacre and refusing to denounce it, and blaming it on either Israel or America.

Of course they are! It's just not a terror attack without the blame for Israel and America.

re: #90 Kenneth

Millionaire moonbat sel-help-guru blames America

If Muslims around the world would seriously address the 2nd probem, the threat of the 1st problem would be seriously diminished.

Deepak needs to up his dosage a little bit...

re: #90 Kenneth

Chopra was all over CNN on Wed. blaming the West for the whole mess.

re: #73 Arby Dwiar

Before police shut down the store, eager shoppers streamed past emergency crews as they worked furiously to save the store clerk's life.

"They were working on him, but you could see he was dead, said Halcyon Alexander, 29. "People were still coming through."

Only a few stopped.

Every POS in that store should be charged.

They're arguing on the IBN feed. Survivors and politicians. I think the Indians are too nice to face these terrorists down the way they are doing it now. One strategic analyst is saying youtube is at fault because we can see what is happening. Really, he says, it is a simple policing matter.

We need to toughen up, folks. We need all of us to be rough, and some of us to be really rough...

re: #44 gclaghorn

This is why you can't try to play nice with terrorists. Just storm the place, take them down, and worry about their feelings later.

That is generally considered the hardest on any hostages. However, as someone pointed out above, these aren't really hostage situations. No easy answers.

Considering how many folks died in the initial slaughter - it's not surprising to hear that hostages were killed. I seems the only thing these savage radical Muslim freaks wanted was carnage.

It's very sad, heart-breaking - but not a surprise.

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

Arby, I didn't see any users comments at that link that was equating the Walmart story and the tragedy in India.

Can you please explain why you responded to me with this link?

Walt, I think Arby posted that link to illustrate that your premonition has emerged half-fulfilled.

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

I guess I saw a link where there wasn't one.

(I see what you mean)

Read the article by Amir Taheri over at Lucianne.com
He writes of a symphonic terrorism plan. Lots of sites at once. We say that in 9/11. I sure hope we have a opposing plan that is also symphonic. That is a plan to take out such terror activites.
I sure wish the hotels would have more security. I have been in a number of them in major cities, and it looks pretty lame. I said "looks".It may be ok. but at the least visitors shouldbe asked outside to show key. or upon entry to room area. and conventioneers should be more checked out.

re: #90 Kenneth
I think we've heard all we need to hear from Chopra.
He is an ignoramous - and a very angry at the US ignoramous as well.
Fuck him.

re: #94 DisturbedEma

I cannot even respond to that in a civil non bannable from LGF offense kind of way.

A pox on the dear nonleader

This is how to respond:

[expletive] [expletive] [expletive] [expletive] rainbows [expletive] [expletive] and [expletive] [expletive].

There.

re: #88 pbird

Just tangentally Ema, I thought I would mention that the people I met in Chabad in Seattle were very good to my sister and I when she, being mad, insisted on visiting them and acting strangely. They were kind and patient and didn't seem too surprised to see a crazy lady.

Your comment is very interesting btw.

I have left the whole Rebbe thing off to the side, but across the board the people I have met through Chabad are first rate, and to imagine the abject horror and terror in their last moments. . .it physically hurts.

re: #36 DisturbedEma

I am not Jewish, and outraged. Please do not think that all non-Jews hate Jewish people. You could fall into a trap there set by others.
I don't care if you are Hindu, Christian, Jew, or any other religion.
I don't care if you are green, purple,or blue.
I do care about how you treat others.
Bottom line. My line in the sand. We are all people until you prove otherwise. These murders proved otherwise and so I have no mercy for them.
By the way - the 72 virgins are really white raisins (dates) - bet they are in shock.
What they lied to me! Duh.

re: #95 Alouette

Hamakom yenakom domom (G-D avenge their blood)

Positive things to do in memory of those who were murdered:

Jewish women: light Sabbath candles tonight, bake challah.
Jewish men: put on tefillin.
Everyone (Jews and non-Jews): give charity to a worthy cause, light a candle, set aside some time for prayer, meditation and study.

Living well is the best revenge. And Jewish observance is living really really well.

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

Chopra is out. Guru Pitka is in.

Meanwhile, over at CNN.com, they have an article explaining why the Indian Muslims are all cheesed off and basically finding reasons and justifications for terrorism.

Money quote:

Still, many South Asian Muslims insist Islam is the one and only force that can bring the subcontinent together and return it to preeminence as a single whole. "We [Muslims] were the legal rulers of India, and in 1857 the British took that away from us," says Tarik Jan, a gentle-mannered scholar at Islamabad's Institute of Policy Studies. "In 1947 they should have given that back to the Muslims." Jan is no militant, but he pines for the golden era of the Mughal period in the 1700s, and has a fervent desire to see India, Pakistan and Bangladesh reunited under Islamic rule.

The Mughal muslims were a minority in India, except for those parts which later became Pakistan, ruling over the majority of Hindus and other Indians. And this guy thinks the exiting Brits should have handed minority control back to the Muslims. I wonder how that would have played out.

And they're still hoping "fervently" to reascend to power - as a minority. And if they can't, they'll just keep blowing things up and shooting and burning until ... ? I shudder at the future.

re: #110 gclaghorn

This is how to respond:

[expletive] [expletive] [expletive] [expletive] rainbows [expletive] [expletive] and [expletive] [expletive].

There.

What you said!

re: #2 rightside

Let the finger pointing begin

OK.... I'm pointing a finger at the Muslims.... Just wish there was a.... never mind, I dont want to get banned today.........

re: #77 harrylook

Obama will say this is a "failure of empathy."

It's coming... yet another press conference with The One.

Meanwhile...

U.S. Media Ignoring Obama Mistakes With India/Pakistan

Barack Obama’s plan to enlist Pakistan in the fight against al-Qaeda in exchange for improving its relations with India has become one of the potential casualties in Mumbai.

Obama’s strategic problem... is that he has worked harder than anyone to discredit a sustained Global War on Terror when a multi-decade effort is the only thing that will work.

The cornerstone of Obama's "new approach" to fighting terrorism has just crumbled.

The media must be cleansed, purged, and destroyed if this country wants to survive. The infection has spread so far that the country has been diagnosed with leukemia. The conduits of infomation have cancer.

Since we are discussing Indian history, and in particular, the partition, I found this to be rather interesting...

"His principle of peace was bogus."

Year 2000 Time Asia interview with Gopal Godse, co-conspirator and brother of the assassin of Mohandas Ghandi...

I found these quotes to be particularly telling and relevant:

TIME: Why did you want to kill Gandhi?
Godse: Gandhi was a hypocrite. Even after the massacre of the Hindus by the Muslims, he was happy. The more the massacres of the Hindus, the taller his flag of secularism.

TIME: Many people think Gandhi deserved to be nominated TIME's Person of the Century. [He was one of two runners-up, after Albert Einstein.]
Godse: I name him the most cruel person for Hindus in India. The most cruel person! That is how I term him.

TIME: Is that why Gandhi had to die?
Godse: Yes. For months he was advising Hindus that they must never be angry with the Muslims. What sort of ahimsa (non-violence) is this? His principle of peace was bogus. In any free country, a person like him would be shot dead officially because he was encouraging the Muslims to kill Hindus.

TIME: But his philosophy was of turning the other cheek. He felt one person had to stop the cycle of violence...
Godse: The world does not work that way.

re: #106 Arby Dwiar

I guess I saw a link where there wasn't one. (I see what you mean)

My comment about linking the Walmart stampede and the India tragedy was meant as sarcasm. Although I did read that New York Daily News article early this morning and the way people were blaming Walmart for opening the store, Bush for the economy and capitalism for everything else, it certainly wouldn't take a moonbat more than 2 seconds of thought to try to connect it all together.

re: #117 doriangrey

I know what you mean, dorian. Good afternoon. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

re: #112 LindaMarie

I am not Jewish, and outraged. Please do not think that all non-Jews hate Jewish people. You could fall into a trap there set by others.
I don't care if you are Hindu, Christian, Jew, or any other religion.
I don't care if you are green, purple,or blue.
I do care about how you treat others.
Bottom line. My line in the sand. We are all people until you prove otherwise. These murders proved otherwise and so I have no mercy for them.
By the way - the 72 virgins are really white raisins (dates) - bet they are in shock.
What they lied to me! Duh.

Thanks for your concern. Read my past posts- I do not trap easily- I would go off on you, but I am guessing you are new. . .and do not know me, and are cautioning me out of kindness-this Jew needs no lesson in what you caution- I have had plenty.

Thanks for your concern.

re: #90 Kenneth

Chopra is an inner peace advocate as are many Hindus. He believes it is better to have understanding and tolerance and stick your head up your terrorist brothers asses than to exert negative karmic energy.
Like you using your fortune and fame as Islamic prostitution of your race.
SICKO.

re: #109 realwest

I think we've heard all we need to hear from Chopra.
He is an ignoramous - and a very angry at the US ignoramous as well.
Fuck him.

Angry at the US? You mean the country that made him a very rich man by peddling drivel packaged as self-help?

re: #96 Quilly Mammoth

Wonder if it was a test to see what could happen on such a scale.

re: #122 rightside

I know what you mean, dorian. Good afternoon. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

Great, I cooked a turkey, forced a bottle of Sam Adams down it's gullet plugged said gullet and had a super tender and moist turkey 4 hours later... ;)

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

Chopra was all over CNN on Wed. blaming the West for the whole mess.

Maybe he's planning to run for President. Our congress would probably willingly change the Constitution for him.
Like Obama, he already knows how to sway the masses.

re: #93 realwest

Jorline my friend it's NOT Britains' problem - it's either a problem for the entire civilized world or it's India's problem.
I simply can't believe and am having a hard time accepting how LONG it took for those Indian "commandos" to get things under control there.
Shoulda sent 'em a battalion of US Rangers and have done with it; those murderous scum we politely call "terrorists" weren't looking to take hostages and make political demands, they just wanted to murder people and they shoulda been dealt with accordingly.

Hey, RW...my point is Britain has allowed these groups and Imam's a lot of freedom within the country. Remember when the the ABofC was for the Muslim population living under certain Sharia Laws? These radical groups are breeding throughout Europe and now exporting terror indirectly.

re: #126 Kenneth

Angry at the US? You mean the country that made him a very rich man by peddling drivel packaged as self-help?

All you would have to do is put a bible in Chopra's hand and you couldn't tell him apart from Benny Hin!

re: #125 notutopia

Chopra is an inner peace advocate as are many Hindus. He believes it is better to have understanding and tolerance and stick your head up your terrorist brothers asses than to exert negative karmic energy.
Like you using your fortune and fame as Islamic prostitution of your race.
SICKO.

He's such an attention whore.

re: #91 yah

The UK is self destructing on its own. Why should we waste the energy and manpower.

re: #110 gclaghorn

This is how to respond:

[expletive] [expletive] [expletive] [expletive] rainbows [expletive] [expletive] and [expletive] [expletive].

There.

Well now, there's a button we could use! Put it right next to bold & italic in the comments box.....the #!@$!% button. Charles? can we have one of those, please?

Some American Muslims are justifying the massacre and refusing to denounce it, and blaming it on either Israel or America.

They slaughter 150 innocent people then claim there this is a war on Islam. Wow. Nothing at all wrong with these people.

/

re: #134 hermit

Well now, there's a button we could use! Put it right next to bold & italic in the comments box.....the #!@$!% button. Charles? can we have one of those, please?

That would be teh cool.

re: #68 Ron Shaw

I thought the world changed Nov. 5th, 2008! Maybe a a new and improved world tour is in order from the head of the Office Of The President Elect...seems some didn't get the whole hope and change memo thingy.

Could somebody please explain to me which article in the Constitution or USC covers this "Office of the President Elect"? Are we now able to create official offices out of whole cloth?

MI

What I don't understand is the hatred shown against one race of humans. I mean the improvements in this world are so numerous that came from the minds of our Jewish brothers, and for which do they hate. The Jewish community has my full support and prayers, and as a Christian know where my loyalties lie. I do believe it's time for Israel to take the gloves off, we will fight with you if allowed. G-D bless those who die to sadistic hatred from subhumans.

re: #136 gclaghorn

That would be teh cool.

Cough cough, says the guy with a Linux app sounding nic....

re: #128 doriangrey

Did you execute it first?

re: #137 Militant-Infidel

Could somebody please explain to me which article in the Constitution or USC covers this "Office of the President Elect"? Are we now able to create official offices out of whole cloth?

MI

It is an official office, and Thanos dug this up for us:

SERVICES AND FACILITIES AUTHORIZED TO BE PROVIDED TO PRESIDENTS-ELECT AND VICE PRESIDENTS-ELECT

Sec. 3 (a) The Administrator of General Services, referred to hereafter in this Act as “the Administrator,” is authorized to provide, upon request, to each President-elect and each Vice President-elect, for use in connection with his preparations for the assumption of official duties as President or Vice President necessary services and facilities, including-

(1) Suitable office space appropriately equipped with furniture, furnishings, office machines and equipment, and office supplies as determined by the Administrator, after consultation with the President-elect, the Vice-President elect, or their designee provided for in subsection (e) of this section, at such place or places within the United States as the President-elect or Vice-President-elect shall designate;

(2) Payment of the compensation of members of office staffs designated by the President-elect or vice-President-elect at rates determined by them not to exceed the rate provided by the Classification Act of 1949, as amended, for grade GS-18: Provided, That any employee of any agency of any branch of the Government may be detailed to such staffs on a reimbursable or non reimbursable basis with the consent of the head of the agency; and while so detailed such employee shall be responsible only to the President or Vice-President-elect for the performance of his duties: Provided further, That any employee so detailed shall continue to receive the compensation provided pursuant to law for his regular employment, and shall retain the rights and privileges of such employment without interruption. Notwithstanding any other law, persons receiving compensation as members of office staffs under this subsection, other than those detailed from agencies, shall not be held or considered to be employees of the Federal Government except for purposes of the Civil Service Retirement Act, the Federal Employee’s Compensation Act, the Federal Employees Group Life Insurance Act of 1954, and the Federal Employees Health Benefits Act of 1959;

(3) Payment of expenses for the procurement of services of experts or consultants or organizations thereof for the President-elect or Vice-President-elect, as authorized for the head of any department by section 15 of the Administrative Expenses Act of 1946, as amended (5 U.S.C. 55a), at rates not to exceed $100 per diem for individuals;

(4) Payment of travel expenses and subsistence allowances, including rental of Government or hired motor vehicles, found necessary by the President-elect or Vice-President-elect, as authorized for persons employed intermittently or for persons serving without compensation by section 5 of the Administrative Expenses Act of 1946, as amended (5 U.S.C. 73b-2), as may be appropriate;

(5) Communications services found necessary by the President-elect or Vice-President-elect; etc

re: #135 lesbianrainforest

They slaughter 150 innocent people then claim there this is a war on Islam. Wow. Nothing at all wrong with these people.

/

No, they were 'acting out of frustration'. . .like children being naughty!

The first and most damaging loss in the moral relativism new world order? The loss of the belief in evil. . .

re: #109 realwest

I think we've heard all we need to hear from Chopra.
He is an ignoramous - and a very angry at the US ignoramous as well.
Fuck him.

what really pisses me off is that this shmock made millions here selling his feel good books to gullible people, just to turn around and give us all the finger.

re: #138 jainphx

What I don't understand is the hatred shown against one race of humans. I mean the improvements in this world are so numerous that came from the minds of our Jewish brothers, and for which do they hate. The Jewish community has my full support and prayers, and as a Christian know where my loyalties lie. I do believe it's time for Israel to take the gloves off, we will fight with you if allowed. G-D bless those who die to sadistic hatred from subhumans.

And sisters ;)

re: #111 DisturbedEma

I have left the whole Rebbe thing off to the side, but across the board the people I have met through Chabad are first rate, and to imagine the abject horror and terror in their last moments. . .it physically hurts.

Yes.

re: #39 Walter L. Newton

I hope you were joking because there WAS a stampede at a Wal-Mart this morning on Long Island, and one employee was (allegedly) trampled to death.

There is a widespread belief among Pakistanis that the 'Jews are responsible for the conflict in Kashmir.' Part of the lie that never dies, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" transformed into "The International Jew" by Henry Ford, Sr. in the early 1920's.

Mumbai's Chabad House was a deliberate target. Now the rest of Indian Jews who have been living in India will make Aliyah to Israel, along with those Iraqi Jews who chose India in the 1970's after expulsion by Hussein.

Some problems can never be solved, only managed.

And history is always repeated, especially when it comes to Jews.

May the rabbi and his wife be remembered for their goodness, and their son grow into a strong Jewish man.

re: #140 rightside

Did you execute it first?

Well you could say that I got it dead drunk before cooking it.... ;p

re: #83 Killgore Trout

You know, that must be one heck of terrorist -- the Indian media has been claiming that there's but one terrorist left in the Taj Hotel, and that the terrorist is "injured" -- and countless times, the media has claimed -- "It's Over! The terrorist is Dead!", meanwhile in the background one hears an exchange of gun fire, followed by more explosions...good grief...

appeasement is the way to extinction.

re: #148 doriangrey

LOL good one!

re: #144 2by2

what really pisses me off is that this shmock made millions here selling his feel good books to gullible people, just to turn around and give us all the finger.

Let's all give HIM the finger. Then -he'd- need a little self-help.

re: #41 DisturbedEma

No one was rescued from the Chabad house. The 8 people were in adjoining buildings- locals who were afraid to leave their home because of the situation.

I'm going to take a nap. I'm still trying to catch up after a busy (but comfortable and fun) two days of holiday.

Now the rush really starts. Even though our Christmas show has been open for three weeks, things get really busy starting tonight.

You should see all the "holiday giving" attitude as our patrons try body slamming each other trying to grab the best seats in the theatre (general admission, no reserved seats). There is not a single seat in the house that is more than 20 feet from the stage (136 seats on three sides of the stage), but you would think it was a Beatles concert.

It's not pretty.

re: #151 rightside

LOL good one!

Heh heh heh I sent him on his way happy..... ;)

re: #135 lesbianrainforest

They slaughter 150 innocent people then claim there this is a war on Islam. Wow. Nothing at all wrong with these people.

/

"Some American Muslims are justifying the massacre and refusing to denounce it, and blaming it on either Israel or America."

Where did you get that? I want to know who these people are.

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re: #131 Walter L. Newton

All you would have to do is put a bible saxophone in Chopra's hand and you couldn't tell him apart from Benny Hin! Hill

re: #154 Walter L. Newton

Hello, good luck and good-bye Walter!

re: #131 Walter L. Newton

That's silly, unnecessary and insulting to Benny Hinn. He's not perfect and does some crazy stuff, but to compare him with Chopra like that is irresponsible

re: #154 Walter L. Newton

Break a leg!

re: #107 big L
With respect big L - it doesn't matter how much security hotels have - or any place else for that matter.
These murderers are just that. Put more security guards there, more security guards will be shot or blown up.
We - the so called civilized world - have to go on the attack against the terrorists. And yes, that means things like FISA, warrantless searches of genuine suspects (not just folks who are Muslims) and, if needs be, going into countries that provide safe haven's for these scumbags.
THAT'S WHY there hasn't been another 9/11 here - we took away, by force, Al-Q's safe haven in Afghanistan, suckered them into fights they couldn't win in Iraq, and killed them by the truck loads in both places, kept them on the run and made it impossible for them to recruit, train, arm and plan out attacks and now they're stuck in the NW Frontier provinces of Pakistan (and probably other places I don't know about) - we kept 'em on the run, kept killing their #2's and #3's, disrupted their communications, took away a LOT of their money and ultimately did what we had to do: killed them like the mad dogs they are.
We obviously need to do more of that and faster.

re: #132 gclaghorn

Modern day Ghandi with a publishing house. He sells his wares this time to Americans and Brits who love passivity and feel good. Group hugs for everyone that open up the pages....
*spit*

re: #155 buzzsawmonkey

I wish the wooly mammoths had realized that.

For them it was failed negotiations with T-Rex.

re: #160 bellamags

Hello, good luck and good-bye Walter!

DOH............ Never ever tell an actor good luck.... It's like an ancient theatrical curse....

re: #147 Birdalone

I hope you were joking because there WAS a stampede at a Wal-Mart this morning on Long Island, and one employee was (allegedly) trampled to death.

You need to follow all my comments on this thread if you want to understand what I was saying. I was neither joking nor being nasty or mean. I was being ironic.

Please don't assume what I am saying just by reading one comment.

Deepak Chopra lost me when he started wearing those stupid Elton John type glasses.

re: #113 Sunlight

Living well is the best revenge. And Jewish observance is living really really well.

We are having our Thanksgiving dinner tonight, as we do every year. The challah dough is rising. I have put on the gefilte fish (made from frozen rolls, not that nauseating jarred crap) and chicken soup.

Instead of those gaggingly sweet yams dripping with marshmallow and brown sugar, I like to bake the sweet potatoes just like regular potatoes, rub with olive oil and rosemary.

Enjoying a Friday night Sabbath dinner is one way the martyred shluchim would want to be remembered.

Anyone see what Deepak Chopra said on CNN ?

You know, there's 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. That's 25 percent of the population of the world. It's the fastest growing religion in the world. We cannot, if we do not appease and actually recruit the help of this Muslim world, we're going to have a problem on our hands.

And we cannot go after the wrong people, as we did after 9/11, because then the whole collateral damage that occurs actually aggravates the situation.

The wrong people after 9/11 ? Appease the Muslims ? A PROBLEM on our hands ?

Thanks, Larry.

Thanks for not asking even one relevant follow up for some extremely inflammatory statements there IMHO...

We're witnessing a slaughter by fanatical Muslims live on CNN and he is trying the most outrageous kind of moral equivalence I can think of.

It and the MSM sicken me to the core.

Ugh.

re: #133 notutopia

So is the US, Australia, France, .................

re: #166 doriangrey

DOH............ Never ever tell an actor good luck.... It's like an ancient theatrical curse....

sorry. OK walter - break a leg. (i just don't like saying that LOL) : )

Some American Muslims are justifying the massacre and refusing to denounce it, and blaming it on either Israel or America.

It will be quite a come-to-Jesus when the liberals see their anointed one get blamed for Muslim terrorism after Jan 19.

re: #141 gclaghorn

Thanks, I must have been "sleeping at the keyboard". So this is in fact the shadow government we've been hearing about. Where is Cancer Man?

MI

re: #135 lesbianrainforest

That's quite the interesting nic you chose there. Sadly for the pc crowd, I would prefer to not see the word lesbian every time you comment, which I hope will be often...I guess there's not much you could do about it now. JMO.

CNN is Stupid on Stilts.

re: #124 DisturbedEma

Read and understood. Not so new but not here often and so am not familiar with your posts.
I am so angry over the Munbai murders.

re: #47 alegrias

* * * *
Obama's already got his Bay of Pigs incident--Russian Pres. Medvedev visited Cuba on Thanksgiving day yesterday.

Medvedev arrived in Havana Cuba yesterday after visiting Hugo Chavez in Venezuelly.

"...Cuba is expecting some positive CHANGES from Obama, promised during his campaign...."

Medvedev cozies up to Cuba in pursuit of deals
World section, Washington Times of 11/28/08 p. a19

Really, really, really bad. The American people chose ... poorly.

dammit

re: #161 kiwiviv

That's silly, unnecessary and insulting to Benny Hinn. He's not perfect and does some crazy stuff, but to compare him with Chopra like that is irresponsible

You are being sarcastic, I hope. Otherwise, I don't give a shit about Hin, he's a phony, a fake, a charlatan and most of what he does sits right on the edge of being illegal.

re: #147 Birdalone

I hope you were joking because there WAS a stampede at a Wal-Mart this morning on Long Island, and one employee was (allegedly) trampled to death.

There is a widespread belief among Pakistanis that the 'Jews are responsible for the conflict in Kashmir.' Part of the lie that never dies, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" transformed into "The International Jew" by Henry Ford, Sr. in the early 1920's.

Mumbai's Chabad House was a deliberate target. Now the rest of Indian Jews who have been living in India will make Aliyah to Israel, along with those Iraqi Jews who chose India in the 1970's after expulsion by Hussein.

Some problems can never be solved, only managed.

And history is always repeated, especially when it comes to Jews.

May the rabbi and his wife be remembered for their goodness, and their son grow into a strong Jewish man.

At least in Israel they take the threats of evil and antisemitism seriously- not with a grain of sand/salt everywhere else. Hope for the best for Moshe. . .

re: #173 red satellite

It will be quite a come-to-Jesus when the liberals see their anointed one get blamed for Muslim terrorism after Jan 19.

"Some American Muslims are justifying the massacre and refusing to denounce it, and blaming it on either Israel or America."

Where are you folks getting this line, I read the article and did not see that.

re: #178 funky chicken

Really, really, really bad. The American people chose ... poorly.

dammit

Now I really want an "O shit" sticker.

re: #170 ruexperienced

Anyone see what Deepak Chopra said on CNN ?

The wrong people after 9/11 ? Appease the Muslims ? A PROBLEM on our hands ?

Thanks, Larry.

Thanks for not asking even one relevant follow up for some extremely inflammatory statements there IMHO...

We're witnessing a slaughter by fanatical Muslims live on CNN and he is trying the most outrageous kind of moral equivalence I can think of.

It and the MSM sicken me to the core.

Ugh.

How wise of him. I sure am glad we have people like him on TV telling us what we're doing wrong and how to do it right. Now, where did I put that clicker...?

Now, really, to my nap!

re: #153 littleben

No one was rescued from the Chabad house. The 8 people were in adjoining buildings- locals who were afraid to leave their home because of the situation.

I think they were probably killed right at the beginning.

re: #176 rawmuse

In 15 minutes CNN will be going live to a press conference -- re: Chabad House.

Does CBBHO have an relationship with Chopra?

re: #177 LindaMarie

Read and understood. Not so new but not here often and so am not familiar with your posts.
I am so angry over the Munbai murders.

We have a lot in common. And I was making sure you knew that I DO have irrational moments ( the whole I could go off on it comment)- wanted to be honest about that flaw of mine. . .

re: #173 red satellite

He will walk between the raindrops. It will be Bush's failed policies and conservative thought that will be blamed. We are being systematically eradicated.

re: #187 MandyManners

Does CBBHO have an relationship with Chopra?

He is considering him for "Secretary of Warm Fuzzies"

re: #187 MandyManners

No. Chopra has never blown anything up, or generally been a US hating radical.

I heard on CNN today the "impeccable" logic that goes for astute commentary in this fucked up world in which we live.

The attack and murder of Jewish/Israel targets is very bad.

Ask why.

Because innocents were murdered? Because it shows violent murderous Islam will kill anywhere?

Not even close.

It's bad because now India and Israel will cooperate against the terrorists.

And the fact that India and Israel will openly cooperate will, are you ready, ANGER AND INFLAME MUSLIMS.

re: #150 bellamags

Amen.

re: #190 bellamags

He is considering him for "Secretary of Warm Fuzzies"

Maybe in the Peace Department.

re: #181 VegasRick

"Some American Muslims are justifying the massacre and refusing to denounce it, and blaming it on either Israel or America."

Where are you folks getting this line, I read the article and did not see that.

Maybe from this:

However, the most interesting thing right now that’s developing in the news is Israel’s role in all this. The Indian Government didn’t want Israel’s intelligence services after it was offered to them, but it seems Israel sent some of their troops to India. Right now, a major battle is taking place in a Jewish center.

[Link: revolution.muslimpad.com...]

Two things I really hate:

1. Terrorists killing people.
2. Moderate / soon to be terrorist Islamists blaming America for it.

CAIR springs into action.....
Mumbai attacks "senseless and inexcusable": US Muslims' body

An Islamic civil rights group in America has condemned the "senseless and inexcusable" terror attacks in Mumbai, while asking the Indian government to protect its citizens from possible retaliatory violence.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), an advocacy group for Muslims, said the "cowardly attacks" were "senseless and inexcusable acts of violence against innocent civilians".

"American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens of all faith in repudiating acts of terror wherever they take place and whomever they target," CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad said.

The Washington-based group, in a statement also asked the Indian government to protect its citizens from any retaliatory attacks that might take place following the incident.

re: #192 opinionated

I heard on CNN today the "impeccable" logic that goes for astute commentary in this fucked up world in which we live.

The attack and murder of Jewish/Israel targets is very bad.

Ask why.

Because innocents were murdered? Because it shows violent murderous Islam will kill anywhere?

Not even close.

It's bad because now India and Israel will cooperate against the terrorists.

And the fact that India and Israel will openly cooperate will, are you ready, ANGER AND INFLAME MUSLIMS.

When have Muslims ever been anything but ANGRY and INFLAMED?

re: #191 rightside

No. Chopra has never blown anything up, or generally been a US hating radical.

IIRC, I first saw him on Oprah so, there's that.

re: #173 red satellite

It will be quite a come-to-Jesus when the liberals see their anointed one get blamed for Muslim terrorism after Jan 19.

I never thought of that, but I guess the cynic in me says that it will be spun as a "Fighting the legacy" of "BDS afflicted a holes". . .meaning he gets a pass of course. . .

I like your scenario a LOT better. . .

re: #97 Sharmuta

Of course they are! It's just not a terror attack without the blame for Israel and America.

And too many pomo assclowns here in the debased, decadent and guilt-ridden West share this cancerous mindset, Sharm. I want to believe that there is some truth in the adage that whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad. But why so many innocents?

re: #189 NYCHardhat

He will walk between the raindrops. It will be Bush's failed policies and conservative thought that will be blamed. We are being systematically eradicated.

Well if they try to systematically eradicated this conservative there is going to a very uneven quid pro quo involved....

re: #189 NYCHardhat

He will walk between the raindrops. It will be Bush's failed policies and conservative thought that will be blamed. We are being systematically eradicated.

You got there first GMTA. . .

re: #198 Alouette

When have Muslims ever been anything but ANGRY and INFLAMED?

On 9/11

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

Whew - so much anger -

It sounds to me like you need a dose of Chopra -

NOW I am being sarcastic

re: #145 DisturbedEma

Yes and sisters, forgive me the oversight.

re: #198 Alouette

When have Muslims ever been anything but ANGRY and INFLAMED?

The hemarrhoids of the world.

re: #130 jorline
Well I certainly agree that Great Britain seems to have lost whatever moral compass they ever had (and yes, GB has always had a strong streak of anti-Semitism and long looked at what we now call "Third World Countries" as being inhabited by "Wogs" not people).
But that still doesn't change what I said - the civilized world has to get after these murderers/ aka, terrorists big time and in a coordinated fashion.

re: #197 Killgore Trout

"American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens of all faith in repudiating acts of terror wherever they take place and whomever they target," CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad said.

Said from where? From his prison cell?

/one can only hope

re: #204 opinionated

On 9/11

Drat. You beat me to it. Anyway, what {opinionated} said.

re: #192 opinionated

I heard on CNN today the "impeccable" logic that goes for astute commentary in this fucked up world in which we live.

The attack and murder of Jewish/Israel targets is very bad.

Ask why.

Because innocents were murdered? Because it shows violent murderous Islam will kill anywhere?

Not even close.

It's bad because now India and Israel will cooperate against the terrorists.

And the fact that India and Israel will openly cooperate will, are you ready, ANGER AND INFLAME MUSLIMS.

We will continue to appease these monsters until we wake up one morning to WWIV.

re: #195 Sharmuta

[Link: revolution.muslimpad.com...]

Gottenyu!

re: #197 Killgore Trout

"American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens of all faith in repudiating acts of terror wherever they take place and whomever they target," CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad said.

Did they leave the word "faith" singular on purpose?

re: #202 doriangrey

Well if they try to systematically eradicated this conservative there is going to a very uneven quid pro quo involved....

Here is some extra ammo, and some scotch. Where will we rendezvous?

re: #197 Killgore Trout

When did CAIR get citizens,....in India? This is the kind of thing that slips right through. And the true meaning is....?

re: #206 jainphx

Yes and sisters, forgive me the oversight.

:) Hey the Jewish brothers had mothers right?

re: #40 Jhn1

I agree with you. This was a security response malpractice.
It is axiomatic that in a hostage situation the security response must be all out as soon as the security forces engage the bad guys. Even the Germans followed that at Munich, except that their implementation was faulty.
The news reports today indicate that Indian PM Singh turned down Pres. Bush's offers to send anti- terror teams. The Indians also turned down a similar offer from the Israelis.

It is likely that the Rabbi and his wife were killed on Wednesday, but the other three hostage could have been saved.

I think the Indian government owes their family an apology.

Parenthetically, I find despicable that the crowds aroud the Chabad House cheered the "successful" operation this morning, when it was a total failure.It took 48 plus hours to dispatch 2 terrorists? A NYC swat team would have resolved this in 6 hours, and may have even saved some hostages.

re: #167 Walter L. Newton

You need to follow all my comments on this thread if you want to understand what I was saying. I was neither joking nor being nasty or mean. I was being ironic.

Please don't assume what I am saying just by reading one comment.

(Butting in, after the fact) ... IMHO ... since, as you say, you'd already read the WalMart article, you might have worded #39 a bit differently, to make your sarcasm plainer.

I thought then (and still think, after following the subsequent discussion) that Arby Dwiar's response, with the WalMart link, was appropriate - given the wording of your original post.

re: #167 Walter L. Newton

My apologies Walter for any misunderstanding - Ironic makes sense. I find it hard to follow the comment threads, being new to this part of LGF. And, signing off now to enjoy the 45 degree weather outside.

Well said. I fear though that it has to come to our house before we can continue with those successful tactics...some just don't believe the threatsre: #163 realwest

re: #191 rightside

No. Chopra has never blown anything up, or generally been a US hating radical.

Well if he keeps this nonsense up, he'll soon be very close to both.

re: #137 Militant-Infidel

Could somebody please explain to me which article in the Constitution or USC covers this "Office of the President Elect"? Are we now able to create official offices out of whole cloth?

MI

He won't actually be the presedent-elect until the middle of December.

re: #195 Sharmuta

Sharm, thanks for the link but I still don't get it.

re: #137 Militant-Infidel
And Barry Obama is not yet the President Elect and won't legally be the President Elect until December 15th when the Electoral College says he is.
And he's already dropped his Senate Seat so for a time at least, he's just Barack Hussein Obama!

re: #118 Kenneth

Barack Obama’s plan to enlist Pakistan in the fight against al-Qaeda in exchange for improving its relations with India has become one of the potential casualties in Mumbai.

Pakistan is fighting Al Qaeda already, it's the Taliban they're squishy on. India must love that Obama's going to fix this unfixable problem.

Chabad Obituary for Rabbi and Rebbitzen Holtzberg

Baruch dayan emet. Blessed is the one true Judge.

re: #168 rawmuse

He lost me with his con job of proposing that to obtain inner peace means submission and passivity.

re: #187 MandyManners

Does CBBHO have an relationship with Chopra?

Obama and the Call: "I Am America"

Obama and the Palin Effect by Deepak Chopra

Yes. a creepy one by the looks of it

re: #207 MandyManners

The hemarrhoids of the world.

Wonder how this new dose of Preparation bHo will help with that? Probably not much.

MI

re: #204 opinionated

On 9/11

Yeah, they danced and passd out cake and candy. . .still can get stills of the planes hitting the towers and the pentagon on many Arab streets. . .

re: #201 Gang of One

But why so many innocents?

There are no "innocents" to them. If you haven't converted, you are guilty.

re: #211 NYCHardhat

We will continue to appease these monsters until we wake up one morning to WWIV.

WWII started 3 years before most people even realized it had started, WWIV is already well upon us, like the imbecilic deniers of WWII these fools refuse to see what is clearly before their very eyes. They refuse to understand what the Muslims mean when they say they are waging jihad to establish a world-wide Caliphate.

re: #137 Militant-Infidel

Could somebody please explain to me which article in the Constitution or USC covers this "Office of the President Elect"? Are we now able to create official offices out of whole cloth?

MI

How about the office of Presumptive President-elect until he is actually certified by the electoral college in December?

re: #176 rawmuse

CNN is Stupid on Stilts.

Its logo should be a quarter-moon.

/my grandmother had one of those

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re: #144 2by2
Amen. Fuck him.

re: #228 Kenneth

Obama and the Call: "I Am America"

Obama and the Palin Effect by Deepak Chopra

Yes. a creepy one by the looks of it

Vile.

re: #201 Gang of One

And too many pomo assclowns here in the debased, decadent and guilt-ridden West share this cancerous mindset, Sharm. I want to believe that there is some truth in the adage that whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad. But why so many innocents?

You target innocence to leave the most devastating impact. The public is a soft target- easy to achieve their goals.

But don't worry- we elected 0bama, so everything will be okay now. They love us!

re: #57 lindamarie

it means "Blessed by the True Judge".

re: #234 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Its logo should be a quarter-moon.

/my grandmother had one of those

A hammer and a sickle.

re: #223 VegasRick

Did you watch the video?

re: #211 NYCHardhat

We are in a World War. Problem is only one side is on offense.

The other side is on defense at best and votes for appeasing leaders at worst.

re: #241 Sharmuta

Did you watch the video?

Oops, I'll try that.

re: #220 Bozman

Well said. I fear though that it has to come to our house before we can continue with those successful tactics...some just don't believe the threats

Amazing how fast we have forgotten 9/11 collectively. Pisses me off that within the hour of the twin towers falling the MSM bastards were already spinning the coverage with their collective 'groupthink' of, "Is the footage of the attacks too graphic to show? What is the effect on people watching?"

They tried to marginalize our justified anger as quickly as possible.

Most of the giant is still asleep. Not all of it, though.

re: #115 Cato the Elder

Cato, what is the irony -- The Jews suffer a Holocaust then, and only then, does the world agree let us have a State. The Islamists threaten a holocaust if they don't become the State, and the world bows and grovels before this extortion.
Fuck these assholes. Fuck their enablers in the West even harder.

re: #222 debutaunt

He won't actually be the presedent-elect until the middle of December.

Excellent point, I needed to brush up on Article II.

MI

Chopra basically parroted the hard line Islamist thought process.

In short, he suggested that we in the West submit to the will of Muslims worldwide OR ELSE.

*SPIT*

re: #247 ruexperienced

Chopra basically parroted the hard line Islamist thought process.

In short, he suggested that we in the West submit to the will of Muslims worldwide OR ELSE.

*SPIT*

Didn't we do that on Nov 4th?

Rest in Peace, members of the Chabad house.

re: #192 opinionated

I heard on CNN today the "impeccable" logic that goes for astute commentary in this fucked up world in which we live.

The attack and murder of Jewish/Israel targets is very bad.

Ask why.

Because innocents were murdered? Because it shows violent murderous Islam will kill anywhere?

Not even close.

It's bad because now India and Israel will cooperate against the terrorists.

And the fact that India and Israel will openly cooperate will, are you ready, ANGER AND INFLAME MUSLIMS.

Got news for the CNN moonbats...India and Israel have already been cooperating on intelligence and military technology issues for some time, and I expect that cooperation to accelerate if Obama makes it more difficult for the Israelis to obtain US military hardware.

re: #208 realwest

Well I certainly agree that Great Britain seems to have lost whatever moral compass they ever had (and yes, GB has always had a strong streak of anti-Semitism and long looked at what we now call "Third World Countries" as being inhabited by "Wogs" not people).
But that still doesn't change what I said - the civilized world has to get after these murderers/ aka, terrorists big time and in a coordinated fashion.

Realwest -

The kids that were the operatives were expendable. What to do is to interrogate those captured "verry agggresssively" and trace back to who funded the operation. The funders should not know a minute of peace in their (hopefully short) lives. That is all.

-S-

re: #242 opinionated

We are in a World War. Problem is only one side is on offense.

The other side is on defense at best and votes for appeasing leaders at worst.

dear nonleader will give them Israel. . .but not his umbrella. . .

Want to make liberals mad? Have the inauguration moved back to the original date (March something).

re: #215 hermit

When did CAIR get citizens,....in India? This is the kind of thing that slips right through. And the true meaning is....?

There are 150 million Muslims in India, more than in Pakistan itself.

re: #197 Killgore Trout

CAIR springs into action.....
Mumbai attacks "senseless and inexcusable": US Muslims' body

The Washington-based group, in a statement also asked the Indian government to protect its citizens from any retaliatory attacks that might take place following the incident.

Obviously expecting India to be retaliated against for the killing of the terrorists freedom fighters by the police, NSG and Marine commandos.

/don't 'cha think?

KENNETH, great article you found on the last thread.

re: #635 Kenneth

Both ends and the middle

Will Bambi fall for this trap? To work, the Pakistanis need a vain, naive US president ambitious to showcase himself as a peace maker. Well, they got that. What's next?

Of course he will. It might not even be a trap. After all, liberals still try to make us all weep over the "injustices" faced by the "Palestinians," don't they? Just use the same exact playbook for Pakistan....Pakistan gets to send terrorist operations to India, Pakistan gets to launch missiles into India, Pakistan gets to harbor Taliban and other terrorist groups, etc, etc. Only the attempt to respond to the terrorist attacks will be condemned.

Remember that Obama has close ties to some very powerful people in Pakistan, spanning even more time than his friendship with William Ayers.

The American people chose very poorly.

re: #228 Kenneth

Obama and the Call: "I Am America"

Obama and the Palin Effect by Deepak Chopra

Yes. a creepy one by the looks of it

Mike Rosen (fabulous local radio host) read that second article by chopra out loud on his radio show. It was hilarious. (Needless to say Rosen picked him apart.
Chopra is a pseudo-intellectual progressive tool.